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Finish Strong Part 3

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January 26, 2021
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Can one man really win the world for Christ? Join Jim Scudder, Jr. as he interviews his father, Dr. James A. Scudder, and discovers how one man's vision has impacted the world.

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  • continue to tell mydad's life story.
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  • And although he was a goodman, he's not in heaven today
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  • because of his good works.
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  • Jim: I never expected to bestanding at a cemetery where my
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  • dad was buried when I beganto tell the story of his life.
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  • My dad was well-known forhis preaching on television.
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  • Every week, many of you heardhim speak boldly about the way
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  • God expects us to live.
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  • James Scudder: And we'reliving in a wicked world, and
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  • everybody says, "Man, it doesn'tmatter, just doesn't matter.
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  • It doesn't matter."
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  • It does matter.
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  • Jim: You also heard him saythat salvation from hell to
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  • heaven is a free giftand it's not of works.
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  • James: And hedied in my place.
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  • The only way old, filthy,stinking Jim Scudder will ever
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  • go to heaven is becauseChrist died for my sins.
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  • Jim: His life was livedconsistently, he lived what he
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  • preached, but he reallyloved the gospel of grace.
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  • Where did he learn tolove the clear gospel?
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  • James Scudder, born in Kentuckyin 1946, was raised in a
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  • pastor's home, but was not bornagain until he was a senior at
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  • the University of Kentucky.
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  • James: And that nightexplained to me the gospel,
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  • that it's all by grace.
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  • Jim: The last thing he wantedto be was a pastor until one
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  • day, God led him to walk acrossa shallow river to find a man
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  • praying for a pastor.
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  • James: He looks at me, hesaid, "Are you the preacher
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  • I've been praying for?"
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  • I said, "Yes."
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  • And that was my call to preach.
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  • Jim: Fired up for God, heand his friends enrolled at the
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  • Florida Bible Collegein Coconut Grove, Miami.
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  • There he would meet his futurewife Linda and get married.
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  • Then my sister Julie andI were born, but now what?
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  • Where would we go?What would we do?
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  • Dad loved the country life, buttoday we'll hear the incredible
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  • story of God calling him andMom to the last place they would
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  • want to go: the big city.
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  • We begin part three of "FinishStrong" at the second location
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  • of the Florida BibleCollege in Hollywood, Florida.
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  • It's hard to imagine thedifference between that property
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  • in Coconut Grove and thisproperty right on the beach.
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  • James: Can you imaginewhat--we were from that and we
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  • came into this the first time?
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  • It was like, wow, and wehad a place that would seat
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  • a couple thousand people.
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  • Jim: And you werealso baptized right here.
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  • James: I was baptized here.
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  • Jim: Biggest baptisteryI think in the world.
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  • James: In the world,'cause all oceans connect.
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  • Jim: This was such a step upfor you guys, but you still had
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  • that same excitement.
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  • It wasn't about the location.
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  • James: The excitementdidn't change.
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  • And now we'rereally growing, though.
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  • You imagine putting thison your college brochure.
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  • Our presidentfell into moral sin.
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  • I really believe--whenhe fell, the college was
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  • up to 1.600 students.
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  • I believe it had beenthe biggest Bible
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  • college the world's ever seen.
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  • But when he fell, man, it was--that was a hard day in my life.
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  • Jim: There were a lot ofstudents that wanted to quit.
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  • James: There were a lotof students that did quit.
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  • Jim: You also had to makea decision when you heard
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  • the news that this heroof yours had fallen.
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  • What are you going to do?
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  • James: Well, my decision is,am I going to quit?
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  • And it finally hit me,"Well, I'm not following
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  • a man, I'm following Christ.
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  • And Christ didn'tquit, why would I quit?"
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  • So, I decided not to quit.
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  • Jim: Dad's decision not toquit so early on in our family's
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  • journey was critical tofinishing strong, as many more
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  • hardships would come our way.
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  • But on a lighter note, Iremember Dad telling me a funny
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  • story that happened during hisBible college days about his
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  • buddy Bill Adams being paranoidabout someone following him.
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  • James: One time, I saw himputting a body into a trunk.
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  • Turned out it was a murderthat--place, and I'm the only
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  • eyewitness, not to themurder, but to the body.
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  • So, now they said,"We want you to come."
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  • And they said, "We're going togive you protection, but you're
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  • not allowed to tellany of your roommates."
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  • And poor Bill Adams, youknow, he kept saying,
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  • "Someone's following me."
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  • I said, "Bill, yourimagination's running wild."
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  • "It's not my imagination.
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  • Everywhere I go,I'm being followed."
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  • Bill Adams: And I canremember I'd come home and I'd
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  • say, "Jim, do you feel likethere's something going on?"
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  • And he'd just, "Nah,just a regular day."
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  • You know, of course,he couldn't tell me.
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  • So, he went home for Christmas.
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  • I knew there was somethinggoing on and I was so scared.
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  • I got me a bigold butcher knife.
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  • And I put it by my bedevery night 'cause I knew
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  • something was going on.
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  • James: We laugh at thatso much, him sleeping with a
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  • butcher knife out and all that.
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  • Bill: Yeah, oh man.
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  • I just couldn'tbelieve it, you know?
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  • Jim: And I was bornright along the way.
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  • James: It's always atragedy, nothing's perfect.
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  • Jim: But there's agreat story about that.
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  • James: You were being born atthe most expensive hospital in
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  • the state ofFlorida, Cedars of Lebanon.
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  • And everybody says, "Oh, youwent to the wrong hospital,
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  • it's too expensive."
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  • So, I was working atBrink's when your mom
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  • was going to have you.
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  • She insisted I come.
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  • Now, I'm guarding over a billiondollars, I'm the only person.
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  • Jim: Wouldn't that be worthmore than a billion dollars?
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  • James: Well, if I hadn'tcome--I shut the place and came.
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  • If they'd had foundout, I'd have been fired.
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  • But here's the amazing thing.
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  • You're born on the23rd of December.
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  • They gave us a stocking.
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  • You came out earlyChristmas morning.
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  • Now, we had to have600 before you went in.
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  • And boy, that was scraping,borrowing, and working overtime.
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  • So, we had it.
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  • And then whatever else we'dhave to pay, no insurance.
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  • And I was expectinganother 3.000 to 4.000.
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  • And I get from the hospitaland they refunded us.
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  • From the $600, there'sa refund of $60.
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  • So, you were a cheap baby,you've been cheap ever since.
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  • Jim: But you werepretty exhausted, right?
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  • Still going to collegeand doing the night shift?
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  • James: I was sotired and doing 72 hour,
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  • and then doing, you know,15 to 17 hours in college.
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  • And I was taking Greek andsystematic.
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  • Both of those are verydifficult, especially when
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  • you're working day and night.
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  • I would sit in class, literally,and this is not a joke, and I'd
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  • hold my one eye open.
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  • And Dr. Mark Cambron, who laterbecame one of my best friends,
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  • he said, "I just wouldlook at you and say,
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  • 'Why are you even here?'"
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  • Jim: I remember you toldsome stories about Brink's where
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  • somebody pulled agun on the police.
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  • James: This guy, hehad a sawed-off shotgun.
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  • All of us have gottenshot at at least once.
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  • And you know, that's prettyscary, so the Miami police did
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  • not like Brink'shaving sawed-off shotguns.
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  • So, they came up to himand said, "We're going to
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  • take your shotgun."
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  • And Kaiser said,"No, you're not."
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  • He says, "You're nottaking my shotgun."
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  • He says, "Which ofyou want to die first?"
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  • Oh my goodness.
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  • And we're surrounded by theMiami police, the Brink's.
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  • They got the bullhorns, they'resaying to come out, and Kaiser
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  • just would not surrender.
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  • We're trying to get him tosurrender so we don't get shot
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  • in this thing, andhe won't surrender.
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  • Well, in the midst of allthat, I kept trying to
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  • lead him to Christ.
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  • I said, "Now, for God soloved the world he gave
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  • his only begotten Son.
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  • Who is the world?"
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  • And Kaiser said,"That's you and me."
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  • He gave, who's that?
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  • Jesus.
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  • The whosoever, who's that?
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  • He says, "You and me."
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  • Believeth in him, who's that?
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  • That's Christ.
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  • Should not perish,what does that mean?
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  • Go to hell.
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  • But have everlasting life,what does that mean?
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  • Heaven.
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  • Do you believe that?Yes.
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  • Well, then, are yougoing to be in heaven?
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  • He said, "No, I'mgoing to be in hell."
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  • I must've donethat 30, 40 times.
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  • And then all of a sudden, hesees it, the lights come on.
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  • And he says, "I'mgoing to heaven.
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  • If I'm going to heaven,what's it matter
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  • those policeman out there?"
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  • And he surrendered.
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  • They taught us at FloridaBible, "Don't get in an
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  • argument, stay on the gospel.
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  • Stay on the gospel."
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  • Jim: And that was a hugeemphasis at Florida Bible
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  • College, and has been in yourministry and now our ministry,
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  • is the gospelneeds to stay clear.
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  • James: You know, son, I seeso many good preachers, and they
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  • preach really good, butthey don't have a clue.
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  • I call them the flip-floppers.
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  • One week, it's all by grace.
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  • The next week, if you don'thave works, you're not saved.
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  • And they mix up James and theysay, "Faith without works is
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  • dead," but it's all bygrace, not by works.
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  • And it's just flip-flop,flip-flop, flip-flop, you know?
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  • And it's so sad 'cause theydon't understand the gospel.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Jim: Do you wantto finish strong?
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  • Jim: And you graduated.
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  • And you ended upin Chicago of all places.
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  • James: Well, I did notwant to go to Chicago, you know?
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  • Other guys are datingand I'm going fishing.
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  • I had a boat that I tiedup below the Kentucky Dam.
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  • And I was just happy, and Iwas not going to go to Chicago.
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  • So, I go by this student unionplace, and they have a guy in
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  • there and he has markerswhere all the graduates were.
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  • I said, "Well, why isnobody in Chicago?"
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  • He said, "No one will go there."
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  • Well, you know, I didn't knowthere's Moody and this, I'd have
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  • never heard of Moody.
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  • You know, I was just--out of the forest I came.
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  • And that kind of bothered me alot that no one would go there.
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  • And I decided, "No, we're notgoing there," 'cause you and
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  • your sister werestill in diapers.
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  • You were only 13 at the time.
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  • Jim: Yeah, let's correctthat, let's correct
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  • that right now.
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  • James: Okay, no, you were--
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  • Jim: I mean, why don't you justsay we were really little, why
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  • do we have to say "diapers"on national television?
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  • I have a reputation to uphold.
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  • James: I know, butpeople appreciate--
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  • Jim: I know they do, but Iget to edit the show too, so
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  • hopefully we'll cut that out.
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  • James: You probablywon't put that on there.
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  • That was my excuse, two babiesin diapers, and I still had a
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  • $600 school bill.
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  • Dr. Cambron now, he'stalking to all the graduates.
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  • Now, remember he didn'tknow me from being--
  • 00:13:27.310 --> 00:13:30.146
  • he did not know my story.
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  • He just thought I was a guyholding my eye open and that's
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  • all he knew about me.
  • 00:13:35.318 --> 00:13:36.853
  • And he gets in there and hesays, "God wants you to go most
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  • of the time whereyou don't want to go."
  • 00:13:42.959 --> 00:13:47.030
  • I think, "What's he saying?"
  • 00:13:47.063 --> 00:13:49.232
  • He said, "I don't care," and hesays, "if you have two babies in
  • 00:13:49.266 --> 00:13:53.036
  • diapers and youhave a college bill."
  • 00:13:53.069 --> 00:13:57.274
  • Linda Scudder: Those were ourtwo criteria, school bills
  • 00:13:57.307 --> 00:13:59.209
  • and babies in diapers.
  • 00:13:59.242 --> 00:14:00.677
  • And you might have that andyou think you're going to
  • 00:14:00.710 --> 00:14:03.213
  • have to have a salary, butmaybe God's leading you to
  • 00:14:03.246 --> 00:14:06.049
  • go somewhere else.
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  • James: Your mom was sittingwith me and we walked out.
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  • Linda: We both just said,"Yeah, we're going to Chicago."
  • 00:14:12.889 --> 00:14:15.825
  • It was amazing howour minds, you know,
  • 00:14:15.859 --> 00:14:18.228
  • went to that right away.
  • 00:14:18.261 --> 00:14:20.163
  • James: Next thing you know,we're taking a Volkswagen,
  • 00:14:20.196 --> 00:14:22.866
  • no boxes, just piled up.
  • 00:14:22.899 --> 00:14:24.834
  • And we got two Cadillacsthat were--you drive and
  • 00:14:24.868 --> 00:14:28.305
  • they pay the fuel, and--
  • 00:14:28.338 --> 00:14:30.140
  • Jim: So, your dad wasn'treal happy that you were
  • 00:14:30.173 --> 00:14:33.576
  • taking us to Chicago.
  • 00:14:33.610 --> 00:14:35.312
  • James: No, he--you know,he wanted his grandkids
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  • to be close to him.
  • 00:14:38.381 --> 00:14:40.283
  • And all he knew was Al Caponeand shooting everybody.
  • 00:14:40.317 --> 00:14:44.988
  • And he said, "James, Idon't have much money.
  • 00:14:45.021 --> 00:14:47.757
  • I'm very poor.
  • 00:14:47.791 --> 00:14:49.259
  • But what I have, I'll give youeverything if you don't take
  • 00:14:49.292 --> 00:14:52.729
  • those kids to Chicago."
  • 00:14:52.762 --> 00:14:55.865
  • I said, "Dad, God's called usto Chicago, and we're going."
  • 00:14:55.899 --> 00:15:00.203
  • And he drove one of the cars.
  • 00:15:00.236 --> 00:15:02.439
  • Linda: And we get out of thecar and he says, "James,
  • 00:15:02.472 --> 00:15:05.475
  • I knew you were lost.
  • 00:15:05.508 --> 00:15:06.810
  • I told you we'd be lost.
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  • Where are we?"
  • 00:15:08.578 --> 00:15:09.879
  • you know, and your dad justturned to him and said,
  • 00:15:09.913 --> 00:15:11.881
  • "This is where we're coming."
  • 00:15:11.915 --> 00:15:13.216
  • Jim: "We're here."Linda: "This is it."
  • 00:15:13.249 --> 00:15:15.085
  • James: And we got there andthey had bars on the windows.
  • 00:15:15.118 --> 00:15:18.488
  • And I said, "Well, why arethere bars on the windows?"
  • 00:15:18.521 --> 00:15:22.158
  • And he just looked at me,"You'll learn."
  • 00:15:22.192 --> 00:15:24.994
  • It's a very dangerous area.
  • 00:15:25.028 --> 00:15:27.130
  • Linda: You know, our visionwas when we first came to
  • 00:15:27.163 --> 00:15:28.765
  • Chicago, we would have1.000 people our first year.
  • 00:15:28.798 --> 00:15:32.335
  • Jim: Now, was that--I mean,I've heard you say that and
  • 00:15:32.369 --> 00:15:34.537
  • Dad said that, but is thatreally what you guys thought?
  • 00:15:34.571 --> 00:15:36.539
  • Linda: We often did think that.
  • 00:15:36.573 --> 00:15:38.274
  • Yeah, we just thought if--you know, like it just
  • 00:15:38.308 --> 00:15:40.510
  • can happen, you know?
  • 00:15:40.543 --> 00:15:41.845
  • And I don't know, I guesswe really didn't read enough
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  • missionary books or something.
  • 00:15:45.482 --> 00:15:47.283
  • Jim: Well, it didn'thappen that way.
  • 00:15:47.317 --> 00:15:49.285
  • Eventually did, butit took 45 years.
  • 00:15:49.319 --> 00:15:53.056
  • James: You know, in the firstyear, I hadn't even found a
  • 00:15:53.089 --> 00:15:55.992
  • place to meet yet, andit just didn't go well.
  • 00:15:56.025 --> 00:15:59.729
  • And then we finally got astorefront, and we started
  • 00:15:59.763 --> 00:16:04.167
  • meeting, and it was so slow.
  • 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.603
  • And one time, a gang in Chicagocalled the Jousters, and most of
  • 00:16:06.636 --> 00:16:13.843
  • the Jousters allcame to one service.
  • 00:16:13.877 --> 00:16:17.180
  • And you know, I was youngand so sincere, they just--
  • 00:16:17.213 --> 00:16:20.884
  • they just listened.
  • 00:16:20.917 --> 00:16:22.352
  • And that day, we had about40 hands of the Jousters
  • 00:16:22.385 --> 00:16:26.322
  • raised for salvation.
  • 00:16:26.356 --> 00:16:28.591
  • And I said, "Wow, we'rethe fastest-growing church
  • 00:16:28.625 --> 00:16:31.828
  • in the world."
  • 00:16:31.861 --> 00:16:33.496
  • We went from 2 to 42.
  • 00:16:33.530 --> 00:16:37.600
  • Next Sunday, none came back,we were the fastest declining
  • 00:16:37.634 --> 00:16:40.570
  • church in the world.
  • 00:16:40.603 --> 00:16:42.405
  • Up and down, up and down, somany times you want to quit.
  • 00:16:42.439 --> 00:16:47.710
  • But you just keep plowingbecause Jesus never quit.
  • 00:16:47.744 --> 00:16:51.714
  • Jim: I remember there's somestories about where we used to
  • 00:16:51.748 --> 00:16:53.817
  • live and what we didn't have.
  • 00:16:53.850 --> 00:16:56.886
  • James: We werethe fourth floor.
  • 00:16:56.920 --> 00:16:58.588
  • Now, they didn't haveelevators, of course.
  • 00:16:58.621 --> 00:17:02.425
  • And it was a really bad place.
  • 00:17:02.459 --> 00:17:04.594
  • I mean, I was so afraid that youguys were going to fall out a
  • 00:17:04.627 --> 00:17:08.331
  • window, fourth floor.
  • 00:17:08.364 --> 00:17:11.034
  • Linda: So, we went toSalvation Army and bought
  • 00:17:11.067 --> 00:17:15.972
  • two card tables.
  • 00:17:16.005 --> 00:17:17.373
  • And then we had these chairsthat folded, but they were the
  • 00:17:17.407 --> 00:17:22.111
  • kind that if you sat backtoo far, they just folded
  • 00:17:22.145 --> 00:17:24.414
  • up, you know?
  • 00:17:24.447 --> 00:17:26.516
  • James: So, we had aThanksgiving dinner once, and we
  • 00:17:26.549 --> 00:17:29.819
  • invited Leroy Jeran over.
  • 00:17:29.853 --> 00:17:32.155
  • Jim: Who wasyour first member.
  • 00:17:32.188 --> 00:17:34.657
  • Linda: And we were bound anddetermined 'cause you could buy
  • 00:17:34.691 --> 00:17:37.293
  • a turkey for, you know,what, 20 cents a pound
  • 00:17:37.327 --> 00:17:39.829
  • or something in those days.
  • 00:17:39.863 --> 00:17:41.364
  • We roasted it and broughtit out, and we get ready
  • 00:17:41.397 --> 00:17:44.534
  • to set it on the table.
  • 00:17:44.567 --> 00:17:45.869
  • And I'm looking at this tableand I go, "I don't think it's"--
  • 00:17:45.902 --> 00:17:49.172
  • what, like a 26-pound turkey?
  • 00:17:49.205 --> 00:17:50.573
  • I said, "I don't think that'sgoing to, you know, support it."
  • 00:17:50.607 --> 00:17:53.109
  • So, your dad decidesto put it on the chair.
  • 00:17:53.142 --> 00:17:55.778
  • So, when he put it on the chair,then the whole thing flipped.
  • 00:17:55.812 --> 00:17:58.548
  • James: The turkey goes flyingacross the floor, dumps over
  • 00:17:58.581 --> 00:18:03.553
  • onto the floor,and we still ate it.
  • 00:18:03.586 --> 00:18:07.123
  • We were so poor,we had to eat it.
  • 00:18:07.156 --> 00:18:09.692
  • That day, Leroy went andbought us a real table.
  • 00:18:09.726 --> 00:18:14.264
  • Jim: You start meeting,and it's me and Julie, Mom,
  • 00:18:14.297 --> 00:18:17.967
  • and you, and Leroy.
  • 00:18:18.001 --> 00:18:20.036
  • And I think Ralph,Ralph Kowalski entered
  • 00:18:20.069 --> 00:18:22.739
  • the scene somewhere.
  • 00:18:22.772 --> 00:18:24.207
  • James: He becamea faithful member.
  • 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.009
  • You know, he had a lotof physical issues,
  • 00:18:26.042 --> 00:18:28.678
  • and he had bumps all over.
  • 00:18:28.711 --> 00:18:31.514
  • But we loved him and that wasone of my first shocks when he
  • 00:18:31.548 --> 00:18:34.717
  • died, I was over in India.
  • 00:18:34.751 --> 00:18:37.020
  • Boy, that was a hard one.
  • 00:18:37.053 --> 00:18:38.688
  • Jim: Faithful, though.
  • 00:18:38.721 --> 00:18:40.023
  • You know, didn't have a lot ofability, but he was faithful.
  • 00:18:40.056 --> 00:18:43.726
  • James: He was faithful.
  • 00:18:43.760 --> 00:18:45.061
  • He became our custodian, helived there in the building,
  • 00:18:45.094 --> 00:18:51.334
  • and he was so faithful.
  • 00:18:51.367 --> 00:18:53.570
  • Jim: Because of theencouragement of those early
  • 00:18:53.603 --> 00:18:56.172
  • church members, and Dadand Mom's determination and
  • 00:18:56.205 --> 00:19:00.143
  • perseverance, the little churchthey planted would slowly grow
  • 00:19:00.176 --> 00:19:05.081
  • into a large, energetic,and dedicated church.
  • 00:19:05.114 --> 00:19:09.886
  • And that church would impactthe world with the gospel.
  • 00:19:09.919 --> 00:19:14.524
  • Next time, we'll hear about someamazing miracles that God did
  • 00:19:14.557 --> 00:19:18.962
  • for us during that growth.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Neal Dearyan: I owe somuch to you, Dr. Scudder.
  • 00:19:27.437 --> 00:19:29.706
  • And I'm so grateful that heasked me as a 17-year-old boy
  • 00:19:29.739 --> 00:19:34.143
  • to come to Bible college.
  • 00:19:34.177 --> 00:19:36.579
  • And he often said, "You can'tdo everything, but you can
  • 00:19:36.613 --> 00:19:41.751
  • do something."
  • 00:19:41.784 --> 00:19:43.720
  • And he lived that way.
  • 00:19:43.753 --> 00:19:46.122
  • Every moment of his lifewas to reach someone else
  • 00:19:46.155 --> 00:19:49.859
  • with the gospel.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Jim: The gospel of gracemade all the difference
  • 00:19:58.401 --> 00:20:00.970
  • in my dad's life.
  • 00:20:01.004 --> 00:20:02.839
  • As he graduated Bible collegeand began the ministry that grew
  • 00:20:02.872 --> 00:20:07.043
  • into such an amazing thing,it was always based on
  • 00:20:07.076 --> 00:20:10.146
  • salvation by grace.
  • 00:20:10.179 --> 00:20:11.981
  • And if you don't understandgrace at salvation, you won't be
  • 00:20:12.015 --> 00:20:15.618
  • able to live for the Lord, youwon't be able to serve the Lord
  • 00:20:15.652 --> 00:20:17.854
  • because we're always going tofear, "Well, maybe I'm going to
  • 00:20:17.887 --> 00:20:20.256
  • mess up, and maybe God's goingto take away my salvation."
  • 00:20:20.289 --> 00:20:24.694
  • But Dad learned when he wasyoung, he was in Bible college,
  • 00:20:24.727 --> 00:20:28.031
  • that the gospel is grace.
  • 00:20:28.064 --> 00:20:30.433
  • And actually, we also liveby grace, we serve by grace.
  • 00:20:30.466 --> 00:20:33.503
  • It's all by God's grace.
  • 00:20:33.536 --> 00:20:35.905
  • You know, my dad always hadverses on the back wall
  • 00:20:35.938 --> 00:20:38.007
  • of the auditorium.
  • 00:20:38.041 --> 00:20:39.676
  • Ephesians 2:8 and 9, his lifeverses, "For by grace are you
  • 00:20:39.709 --> 00:20:44.213
  • saved through faith, andthat not of yourselves.
  • 00:20:44.247 --> 00:20:47.116
  • It is a gift of God,not of works, lest any
  • 00:20:47.150 --> 00:20:49.952
  • man should boast."
  • 00:20:49.986 --> 00:20:52.388
  • Let this represent you andme and this represent sin.
  • 00:20:52.422 --> 00:20:56.292
  • He would put his wallet inhis hand and he would
  • 00:20:56.325 --> 00:20:59.796
  • say, "We all have sinned."
  • 00:20:59.829 --> 00:21:02.398
  • And that's true, and a lot ofpeople think they can get rid of
  • 00:21:02.432 --> 00:21:05.068
  • their sin by being good.
  • 00:21:05.101 --> 00:21:06.502
  • The Bible says our bestefforts to God is nothing
  • 00:21:06.536 --> 00:21:09.405
  • but filthy rags.
  • 00:21:09.439 --> 00:21:11.474
  • But then my dad would say,"Let this hand represent Jesus.
  • 00:21:11.507 --> 00:21:15.211
  • Jesus came, the Son of God,he did many great miracles
  • 00:21:15.244 --> 00:21:19.482
  • proving that he was God.
  • 00:21:19.515 --> 00:21:21.684
  • But he died sinless, he diedfor our sins on the cross.
  • 00:21:21.718 --> 00:21:25.888
  • For by grace are you savedthrough faith and not of
  • 00:21:25.922 --> 00:21:29.225
  • yourselves, it's a gift of God."
  • 00:21:29.258 --> 00:21:30.693
  • So many people think, "I have toearn eternal life, or it's Jesus
  • 00:21:30.727 --> 00:21:33.730
  • plus my works,"but my dad said no.
  • 00:21:33.763 --> 00:21:35.998
  • He learned that it's by graceyou're saved through faith.
  • 00:21:36.032 --> 00:21:40.069
  • It's not of ourselves,it's a gift of God.
  • 00:21:40.103 --> 00:21:42.305
  • So, what do you haveto do to receive a gift?
  • 00:21:42.338 --> 00:21:44.607
  • Just take it.
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  • How do you receive salvation?By faith.
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  • Just believe that Jesus died foryou, the Son of God died in your
  • 00:21:48.411 --> 00:21:51.214
  • place on a cross.
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  • And my dad never had to fear thegrave because he knew for sure
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  • he was on his way to heaven,he was born again.
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