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Secularization, Pluralization, Privitization Part 2

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June 3, 2019
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Ravi Zacharias

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Secularization, Pluralization, Privitization Part 2

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  • - SECULARIZATION HAS
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  • THE POSSIBILITY OF LEADING
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  • THIS SOCIETY INTO SHAMELESSNESS.
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  • PLURALIZATION, WHERE THERE ARE
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  • A COMPETING NUMBER
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  • OF WORLD VIEWS AVAILABLE
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  • TO ITS MEMBERS AND NO WORLD VIEW
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  • IS DOMINANT.
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  • THAT'S OUR CULTURE
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  • AND LEGITIMATELY SO.
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  • I THINK A PLURALISTIC CULTURE
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  • IS A GOOD WAY FOR A CULTURE
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  • TO BE, PLURALISM OF CHOICES,
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  • PLURALISM OF IDEAS,
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  • WHERE YOU CAN DEBATE,
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  • DIALOG WITH IMPUNITY.
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  • AMERICA IS E PLURIBUS UNUM,
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  • OUT OF THE PLURALITY
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  • OF OUR CULTURES, FINDING
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  • A SINGLE VISION FOR WHATEVER
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  • IT IS WE ULTIMATELY PURSUE.
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  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS MADE
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  • THIS NATION GREAT
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  • IS OUR AVOWED PLURALISM,
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  • BUT ANY WEAKNESS IS INVARIABLY
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  • AN ABUSE OF A STRENGTH.
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  • AND IF PLURALISM IS EXTRAPOLATED
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  • INTO MEANING RELATIVISM,
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  • THEN YOU'VE GOT A KING-SIZE
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  • PROBLEM IN THE MAKING
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  • WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
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  • WITH MORAL ISSUES
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  • AND MORAL CATEGORIES,
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  • WHICH IS PRECISELY
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  • WHAT MAY HAPPEN.
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  • NOW, THE THOUGHTS
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  • I'M SHARING WITH YOU GO BACK
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  • OVER MANY, MANY YEARS,
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  • BUT I SHARE THESE WITH YOU
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  • BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE
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  • SO CLASSIC IN MY OWN FORMATION
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  • TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND HOW THIS
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  • CHANGE HAS TAKEN PLACE OVER
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  • THE LAST TWENTY TO THIRTY YEARS.
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  • I REMEMBER YEARS AGO,
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  • THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FAMILIAR
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  • WITH MY MATERIAL WILL
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  • IMMEDIATELY CONNECT WITH THIS
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  • STORY BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY
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  • CRITICAL DEFINING THING
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  • FOR ME MYSELF.
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  • YEARS AGO I WAS SPEAKING
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  • IN CALIFORNIA TO AN AUDIENCE,
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  • TO A VAST AUDIENCE,
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  • AND A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY
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  • FROM THE LOCAL UNIVERSITY
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  • CAME UP TO ME AND HE SAID,
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  • "SO YOU'RE FROM INDIA?"
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  • I SAID, "YES."
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  • HE SAID, "AND YOU'RE
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  • A CHRISTIAN?"
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  • I SAID, "YES, SIR."
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  • HE SAID, "I'M FROM AMERICA."
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  • I SAID, "NICE TO MEET YOU."
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  • HE SAID, "AND I AM A HINDU."
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  • I SAID, "VERY HAPPY
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  • TO MEET YOU."
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  • HE SAID, "BUT I'M PUZZLED.
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  • WHY ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?"
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  • QUITE A SHOCKING STATEMENT.
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  • I TRIED TO TELL HIM THAT THOMAS
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  • WENT TO INDIA, YOU KNOW,
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  • RIGHT DURING THE TIME OF CHRIST
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  • AND WENT TO MY ANCESTORS
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  • IN KERALA,
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  • WHICH IS WHERE I CAME.
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  • BUT HE WASN'T INTERESTED
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  • IN THAT.
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  • HE SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT,
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  • I WANT YOU TO SPEAK ON THIS
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  • PANTHEISTIC EPISTEMOLOGY
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  • AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR,
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  • A VARIOUS GROUP OF WORLD VIEWS
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  • THAT COME UNDER PANTHEISM
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  • AND SO ON."
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  • AND HE SAID, "I WANT YOU
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  • TO TELL ME WHY YOU ARE NOT" --
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  • LET ME USE THE WORD "PANTHEIST"
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  • FOR AN EASIER AUDIENCE
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  • HERE ON THAT.
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  • "LET ME ASK YOU TO SPEAK ON
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  • WHY YOU'RE NOT A PANTHEIST
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  • AND I WILL TAKE YOU ON."
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT
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  • HE THOUGHT I WAS.
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  • WOW.
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  • I COULD HARDLY WAIT.
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  • LET ME DO IT SO YOU CAN TAKE
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  • ME ON.
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  • I SAID, "LOOK, THAT'S NOT
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  • REALLY WHAT I'M HERE ABOUT."
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  • HE SAID, "I'LL BRING MY
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  • WHOLE CLASS OF PHILOSOPHY
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  • WITH ME AND THEY'LL TEAR YOU
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  • APART AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED
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  • IF YOU DEAL WITH
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  • THIS QUESTION."
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  • I SAID, "LOOK, I'LL MAKE
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  • A DEAL WITH YOU.
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  • I WILL SPEAK ON WHY I AM
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  • A CHRISTIAN, AND IMPLICIT
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  • IN THAT WILL BE WHY I AM NOT
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  • ANYTHING ELSE AND LET YOUR CLASS
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  • HAVE A GO AT ME, THEN."
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  • SO HE FINALLY COMPROMISED,
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  • AND THEY WALKED IN VERY
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  • CONSPICUOUSLY AND FOUND
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  • THEIR SEATS, AND I SPOKE ON IT.
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  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID
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  • IS THAT THE PANTHEISTIC
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  • WORLD VIEWS, ONE OR TWO OF THEM
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  • IN PARTICULAR, CAN HAVE
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  • SYSTEMICALLY CONTRADICTORY
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  • AFFIRMATIONS WHICH SAYS TO ME
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  • THAT THE SYSTEM IMPLODES UNDER
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  • THE WEIGHT OF CONTRADICTION.
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  • AND I GAVE SOME EXAMPLES.
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  • AFTER IT WAS OVER, HE WALKED UP
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  • TO ME AND HE SAID,
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  • "YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE
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  • THE GREATEST DISSERVICE
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  • TO THIS WORLD VIEW I'VE EVER
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  • HEARD ANY MAN EVER DO."
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  • AND HE SAID, "AND I'M VERY,
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  • VERY UPSET WITH YOU.
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  • OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
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  • EASTERN LOGIC."
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  • I SAID, "YOU KNOW, SIR,
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  • I CAN USE A LOT OF EASTERN LOGIC
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  • THAT'LL MAKE YOU QUITE PUZZLED
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  • RIGHT NOW,
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  • BUT LET'S NOT DO THAT."
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  • I SAID, "I'M NOT HERE
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  • TO IMPRESS YOUR STUDENTS.
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  • I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT."
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  • I SAID, "I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
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  • AND YOU TALK TO ME.
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  • LET'S GO OUT AND HAVE LUNCH.
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  • YOU BUY THE LUNCH, WE'LL GET
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  • TOGETHER, AND WE'LL SIT DOWN
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  • AND WE'LL CHAT."
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  • HE SAID, "CAN I BRING
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  • THE PROFESSOR OF PSYCHOLOGY
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  • WITH ME?"
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  • I SAID, "ARE WE GOING
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  • TO BE SUBJECTS OR OBJECTS
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  • FOR HIM?"
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  • HE SAID, "NO, HE'S A FRIEND
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  • OF MINE."
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  • I SAID, "ALL RIGHT, BRING HIM,"
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  • I SAID, "BUT I'M NOT GOING
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  • TO TALK TO HIM.
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  • I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU.
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  • JUST YOU AND I, AND HE CAN
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  • LISTEN IF HE WANTS TO."
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  • SO THE THREE OF US WENT OUT
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  • FOR LUNCH, HE WAS VERY GRACIOUS,
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  • PULLED OUT, TOOK OUT ALL
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  • THE PLACEMATS FROM THE TABLE.
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  • THE MOMENT THE MAN DOES
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  • THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING
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  • TO GET A LONG SPEECH.
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  • THE PSYCHOLOGIST
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  • AND I HAD FINISHED OUR LUNCH.
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  • THIS MAN HADN'T EVEN BEGUN HIS.
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  • IT WAS GETTING CONGEALED
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  • BEFORE HIS EYES, AND ALL
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  • OF THE PLACEMATS WERE USED UP.
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  • AND HE WAS TRYING TO CONVEY
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  • ONE THING: THE LAWS OF LOGIC.
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  • AND HE SAID THIS.
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  • HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, THE LAW
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  • OF NON-CONTRADICTION
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  • WHERE TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
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  • AFFIRMATIONS CANNOT BE TRUE
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  • AT THE SAME TIME
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  • AND THE SAME SENSE AND SO ON."
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  • HE WENT ON TO DESCRIBE IT.
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  • HE SAID, "THAT'S A WESTERN
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  • WAY OF THINKING."
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  • I SAID, "NO, IT'S NOT."
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  • HE SAID, "YES, IT IS."
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  • I SAID, "NO, IT'S NOT."
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  • HE SAID, "YES, IT IS."
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  • I SAID, "I'M TELLING YOU
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  • IT'S NOT."
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  • HE SAID, "I'M TELLING YOU
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  • IT IS."
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  • I SAID, "OKAY, CONTINUE."
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  • HE SAID, "THEN YOU'VE GOT
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  • THE DIALECTICAL SYSTEM OF LOGIC,
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  • NOT THE EITHER/OR;
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  • BUT THE BOTH/AND.
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  • NOT EITHER THIS OR THAT,
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  • BUT BOTH THIS AND THAT."
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  • HE SAID, "MARX USES IT
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  • IN HIS DIALECTIC.
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  • YOU DON'T GET EITHER
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  • THE EMPLOYER OR THE EMPLOYEE.
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  • YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER.
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  • THEY GET A CLASSLESS SOCIETY,
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  • WHICH WAS POPULARIZED
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  • BY FICHTER, THE POPULARIZATION
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  • OF THE THESIS SPAWNING
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  • ITS ANTITHESIS COMING TOGETHER
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  • FOR THE SYNTHESIS.
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  • THAT'S THE DIALECTICAL SYSTEM,
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  • ALL RIGHT?"
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  • AND HE SAID, "THE EASTERNERS
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  • USE THE DIALECTICAL SYSTEM.
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  • THAT'S AN EASTERN WAY
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  • OF THINKING."
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  • I SAID, "NO, IT'S NOT."
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  • HE SAID, "YES, IT IS."
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  • I SAID, "NO, IT ISN'T."
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  • HE SAID, "YES, IT IS."
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  • HE SAID, "I'M TELLING YOU
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  • IT IS."
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  • I SAID, "OKAY,
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  • GET TO YOUR POINT."
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  • HE SAID, "THE WESTERN WAY,
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  • EITHER THIS OR THAT.
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  • THE EASTERN WAY,
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  • BOTH THIS AND THAT.
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  • WHEN YOU WERE STUDYING THESE
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  • EASTERN WORLD VIEWS,
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  • YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU WERE
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  • STUDYING IT AS A WESTERNER
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  • FINDING THE EITHER/OR
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  • CONTRADICTION AND THEREFORE
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  • FINDING THEM FLAWED.
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  • YOU SHOULD HAVE USED
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  • THE BOTH/AND LOGIC
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  • AND THE CONTRADICTIONS WOULDN'T
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  • HAVE BOTHERED YOU."
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  • SO I LOOKED AT HIM, I SAID,
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  • "ARE YOU FINISHED?"
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  • HE SAID, "YES."
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  • HE PICKED UP HIS KNIFE AND FORK.
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  • I SAID, "I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
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  • ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT WHEN
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  • I'M STUDYING THE PANTHEISTIC
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  • SYSTEM I EITHER USE
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  • THE BOTH/AND LOGIC
  • 00:07:08.290 --> 00:07:10.000
  • OR NOTHING ELSE?
  • 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.080
  • IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:07:12.270 --> 00:07:15.270
  • I EITHER USE THE BOTH/AND,
  • 00:07:15.270 --> 00:07:17.160
  • THE DIALECTICAL,
  • 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:18.040
  • OR NOTHING ELSE.
  • 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:18.220
  • IS THAT RIGHT?"
  • 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:19.160
  • HE PUT HIS KNIFE AND FORK DOWN.
  • 00:07:19.220 --> 00:07:22.220
  • I SAID, "SIR, I HAVE
  • 00:07:22.220 --> 00:07:23.240
  • SOME NEWS FOR YOU.
  • 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.180
  • EVEN IN INDIA WE LOOK BOTH WAYS
  • 00:07:25.180 --> 00:07:26.270
  • BEFORE WE CROSS THE STREET.
  • 00:07:27.130 --> 00:07:30.130
  • IT'S EITHER THE BUS OR ME,
  • 00:07:30.130 --> 00:07:32.020
  • NOT BOTH OF US."
  • 00:07:32.150 --> 00:07:35.150
  • THE PSYCHOLOGIST SAID,
  • 00:07:35.150 --> 00:07:36.150
  • "I THINK IT'S TIME TO GO NOW.
  • 00:07:36.150 --> 00:07:38.080
  • WE'RE DONE HERE."
  • 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.120
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID,
  • 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.210
  • WHAT HE SAID AMAZED ME.
  • 00:07:44.210 --> 00:07:47.070
  • WHEN I FINISHED THAT
  • 00:07:47.070 --> 00:07:48.040
  • LITTLE RESPONSE, DO YOU KNOW
  • 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:48.260
  • WHAT HE SAID TO ME?
  • 00:07:48.260 --> 00:07:50.090
  • "THE EITHER/OR DOES SEEM
  • 00:07:50.090 --> 00:07:51.210
  • TO EMERGE, DOESN'T IT?"
  • 00:07:53.070 --> 00:07:56.070
  • OF COURSE IT EMERGES.
  • 00:07:56.090 --> 00:07:59.090
  • THE MOMENT YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH
  • 00:07:59.090 --> 00:08:01.070
  • TO CONTRADICT THE LAW
  • 00:08:01.070 --> 00:08:02.140
  • OF NON-CONTRADICTION
  • 00:08:02.140 --> 00:08:03.180
  • YOU'RE ACTUALLY AFFIRMING IT.
  • 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.000
  • NOW, WHAT DID HE MEAN
  • 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.230
  • BY EASTERN AND WESTERN?
  • 00:08:10.230 --> 00:08:12.260
  • WHAT HE MEANT IS HALF RIGHT
  • 00:08:12.260 --> 00:08:15.110
  • IN THE WESTERN POPULARIZATION
  • 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.120
  • OF PANTHEISM.
  • 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.210
  • YES, THEY LIVE THAT WAY,
  • 00:08:20.050 --> 00:08:23.050
  • BUT IT WAS NOT SO
  • 00:08:23.050 --> 00:08:24.080
  • WITH THEIR FOUNDERS.
  • 00:08:24.100 --> 00:08:27.100
  • SHANKARA WAS A FIRM BELIEVER
  • 00:08:27.100 --> 00:08:29.150
  • IN THE LAW OF NON-CONTRADICTION.
  • 00:08:29.150 --> 00:08:32.040
  • SO WAS GAUTAMA BUDDHA.
  • 00:08:32.040 --> 00:08:33.200
  • SO WAS MOHAMMED.
  • 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.030
  • ALL OF THEM FIRMLY SUBMITTED
  • 00:08:35.030 --> 00:08:37.220
  • TO THE LAW OF NON-CONTRADICTION,
  • 00:08:37.220 --> 00:08:39.250
  • THAT TWO OPPOSITE AFFIRMATIONS
  • 00:08:39.250 --> 00:08:42.040
  • MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CANNOT BOTH
  • 00:08:42.040 --> 00:08:43.290
  • BE TRUE IN AN ABSOLUTE
  • 00:08:43.290 --> 00:08:45.040
  • SENSE UNQUALIFIED.
  • 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:47.060
  • WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PLURALIZATION
  • 00:08:47.290 --> 00:08:50.290
  • HAS HAD ITS FULL DAY?
  • 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:53.100
  • WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU LIVE
  • 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:56.220
  • WITH IRRATIONALITY.
  • 00:08:57.020 --> 00:09:00.040
  • THE DEATH OF SHAME CAN COME
  • 00:09:00.040 --> 00:09:01.120
  • WITH SECULARIZATION.
  • 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:02.220
  • THE DEATH OF REASON CAN COME
  • 00:09:02.220 --> 00:09:04.190
  • WITH PLURALIZATION.
  • 00:09:04.190 --> 00:09:06.160
  • G. K. CHESTERTON PUT THIS
  • 00:09:06.160 --> 00:09:08.210
  • POWERFULLY IN HIS BOOK,
  • 00:09:08.210 --> 00:09:10.190
  • ORTHODOXY .
  • 00:09:10.190 --> 00:09:12.050
  • THE NEW REBEL WHO ONCE
  • 00:09:12.050 --> 00:09:13.070
  • REBELLED AGAINST EVERYTHING
  • 00:09:13.070 --> 00:09:14.250
  • AND A MORAL LAW IS A SKEPTIC
  • 00:09:14.250 --> 00:09:17.010
  • AND WILL NOT TRUST ANYTHING.
  • 00:09:17.010 --> 00:09:18.260
  • HE HAS NO LOYALTY;
  • 00:09:18.260 --> 00:09:19.290
  • THEREFORE, HE CAN NEVER BE
  • 00:09:19.290 --> 00:09:20.200
  • A TRUE REVOLUTIONIST.
  • 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.070
  • AND THE FACT THAT HE DOUBTS
  • 00:09:22.070 --> 00:09:23.080
  • EVERYTHING GETS IN HIS WAY
  • 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:24.080
  • WHEN HE WANTS
  • 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:25.000
  • TO DENOUNCE ANYTHING.
  • 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:26.040
  • FOR ALL DENUNCIATION IMPLIES
  • 00:09:26.040 --> 00:09:27.190
  • A MORAL DOCTRINE OF SOME KIND,
  • 00:09:27.190 --> 00:09:29.180
  • AND THE MODERN REVOLUTIONIST
  • 00:09:29.180 --> 00:09:30.220
  • DOUBTS NOT ONLY
  • 00:09:30.220 --> 00:09:31.160
  • THE INSTITUTION IT DENOUNCES
  • 00:09:31.160 --> 00:09:32.280
  • BUT THE DOCTRINE
  • 00:09:32.280 --> 00:09:33.240
  • BY WHICH HE DENOUNCES IT.
  • 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.030
  • SO HE WRITES ONE BOOK
  • 00:09:35.030 --> 00:09:36.160
  • COMPLAINING THAT THE IMPERIAL
  • 00:09:36.160 --> 00:09:37.180
  • OPPRESSION INSULTS
  • 00:09:37.180 --> 00:09:38.120
  • THE PURITY OF WOMEN,
  • 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:39.040
  • THEN HE WRITES ANOTHER BOOK,
  • 00:09:39.040 --> 00:09:40.030
  • A NOVEL, IN WHICH
  • 00:09:40.030 --> 00:09:40.290
  • HE INSULTS IT HIMSELF.
  • 00:09:40.290 --> 00:09:42.140
  • HE CURSES THE SULTAN
  • 00:09:42.140 --> 00:09:43.150
  • BECAUSE CHRISTIAN GIRLS
  • 00:09:43.150 --> 00:09:44.180
  • LOSE THEIR VIRGINITY,
  • 00:09:44.180 --> 00:09:46.150
  • THEN CURSES MRS. GRUNDY
  • 00:09:46.150 --> 00:09:47.080
  • BECAUSE THEY KEEP IT.
  • 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:48.170
  • AS A POLITICIAN, HE CRIES OUT
  • 00:09:48.170 --> 00:09:49.160
  • THAT WAR IS A WASTE OF LIFE,
  • 00:09:49.160 --> 00:09:51.000
  • THEN AS A PHILOSOPHER
  • 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:52.050
  • THAT LIFE ITSELF
  • 00:09:52.050 --> 00:09:52.260
  • IS A WASTE OF TIME.
  • 00:09:52.260 --> 00:09:54.080
  • A RUSSIAN PESSIMIST
  • 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:55.100
  • WILL DENOUNCE A POLICEMAN
  • 00:09:55.100 --> 00:09:56.110
  • FOR KILLING A PEASANT,
  • 00:09:56.110 --> 00:09:57.090
  • THEN PROVE BY THE HIGHEST
  • 00:09:57.090 --> 00:09:58.070
  • PHILOSOPHICAL PRINCIPLES
  • 00:09:58.070 --> 00:09:59.030
  • THAT THE PEASANT OUGHT
  • 00:09:59.030 --> 00:10:00.010
  • TO HAVE KILLED HIMSELF.
  • 00:10:00.010 --> 00:10:01.120
  • A MAN DENOUNCES MARRIAGE
  • 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:02.150
  • IS A LIE, THEN DENOUNCES
  • 00:10:02.150 --> 00:10:04.000
  • ARISTOCRATIC PROFLIGATES
  • 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:05.090
  • FOR TREATING IT AS A LIE.
  • 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:07.000
  • THE MAN OF THIS SCHOOL GOES
  • 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:08.010
  • FIRST TO A POLITICAL MEETING
  • 00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:09.190
  • WHERE HE COMPLAINS THAT
  • 00:10:09.190 --> 00:10:11.110
  • SAVAGES ARE TREATED
  • 00:10:11.110 --> 00:10:12.050
  • AS IF THEY WERE BEASTS,
  • 00:10:12.050 --> 00:10:13.030
  • THEN HE TAKES HIS HAT
  • 00:10:13.030 --> 00:10:13.260
  • AND UMBRELLA AND GOES ON TO
  • 00:10:13.260 --> 00:10:15.020
  • A SCIENTIFIC MEETING WHERE
  • 00:10:15.020 --> 00:10:15.270
  • HE PROVES THAT THEY PRACTICALLY
  • 00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:17.080
  • ARE BEASTS.
  • 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:17.230
  • IN SHORT, THE MODERN
  • 00:10:17.230 --> 00:10:18.250
  • REVOLUTIONIST, BEING AN
  • 00:10:18.250 --> 00:10:20.200
  • INFINITE SKEPTIC, IS ALWAYS
  • 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:21.180
  • ENGAGED AND UNDERMINING
  • 00:10:21.180 --> 00:10:22.120
  • HIS OWN MINES.
  • 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:23.170
  • IT HAS BECOME POLITICS.
  • 00:10:23.170 --> 00:10:25.050
  • HE ATTACKS MEN FOR TRAMPLING
  • 00:10:25.050 --> 00:10:26.000
  • ON MORALITY.
  • 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:26.240
  • IN HIS BOOK ON ETHICS,
  • 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:27.200
  • HE ATTACKS MORALITY
  • 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:28.160
  • FOR TRAMPLING ON MEN.
  • 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:29.200
  • THEREFORE, THE MODERN PERSON
  • 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:31.090
  • IN REVOLT HAS BECOME PRACTICALLY
  • 00:10:31.090 --> 00:10:32.240
  • USELESS FOR ALL PURPOSES
  • 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.050
  • OF REVOLT BY REBELLING
  • 00:10:34.050 --> 00:10:35.060
  • AGAINST EVERYTHING.
  • 00:10:35.060 --> 00:10:36.160
  • HE'S LOST HIS RIGHT TO REBEL
  • 00:10:36.160 --> 00:10:37.150
  • AGAINST ANYTHING.
  • 00:10:38.140 --> 00:10:41.140
  • PRETTY POWERFUL STUFF.
  • 00:10:41.140 --> 00:10:44.030
  • PLURALIZATION IS A GOOD THING
  • 00:10:44.030 --> 00:10:45.290
  • CULTURALLY, BUT IF IT IS
  • 00:10:45.290 --> 00:10:48.010
  • EXTRAPOLATED INTO MEANING
  • 00:10:48.010 --> 00:10:50.190
  • RELATIVISM, THEN I THINK
  • 00:10:50.190 --> 00:10:52.200
  • YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM TRYING
  • 00:10:52.270 --> 00:10:55.270
  • TO DELVE INTO THE DEEPEST ISSUES
  • 00:10:57.020 --> 00:11:00.040
  • THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DIVIDE US
  • 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:02.110
  • AND BRING A LOT
  • 00:11:02.110 --> 00:11:03.000
  • OF HURT DEEP WITHIN.
  • 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:04.110
  • SECULARIZATION RISKS
  • 00:11:04.110 --> 00:11:06.000
  • THE LOSS OF SHAME.
  • 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:08.040
  • PLURALIZATION RISKS
  • 00:11:08.040 --> 00:11:08.240
  • THE LOSS OF REASON.
  • 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.080
  • AND FINALLY, PRIVATIZATION,
  • 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.060
  • WHERE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END
  • 00:11:13.060 --> 00:11:14.100
  • OF THE DAY, THEN, IS THAT
  • 00:11:14.100 --> 00:11:16.150
  • A PERSON WITH A TRANSCENDENT
  • 00:11:16.150 --> 00:11:18.010
  • PERSPECTIVE IS TOLD
  • 00:11:18.010 --> 00:11:19.230
  • TO AMPUTATE HIS OR HER FAITH.
  • 00:11:19.230 --> 00:11:22.160
  • TAKE YOUR FAITH INTO
  • 00:11:22.160 --> 00:11:23.190
  • THE PRIVATE WORLD AND WHAT YOU
  • 00:11:23.190 --> 00:11:25.070
  • WANT TO BELIEVE PRIVATELY
  • 00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:26.160
  • YOU CAN BELIEVE.
  • 00:11:26.160 --> 00:11:28.080
  • DON'T BRING IT OUT
  • 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.060
  • INTO THE PUBLIC ARENA.
  • 00:11:29.060 --> 00:11:31.100
  • IF YOU WISH TO CO-EXIST
  • 00:11:31.100 --> 00:11:32.090
  • WITH THOSE OF OTHER VIEWS,
  • 00:11:32.090 --> 00:11:33.260
  • TAKE YOUR BELIEF ON THE DEEPEST
  • 00:11:33.260 --> 00:11:36.010
  • QUESTIONS OF LIFE, PURPOSE,
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:37.280
  • AND DESTINY AND KEEP IT IN
  • 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:38.290
  • THE PRIVATE WORLD.
  • 00:11:40.030 --> 00:11:43.030
  • HOW DOES ONE LIVE THAT WAY?
  • 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.080
  • HOW DOES ONE LIVE THAT WAY?
  • 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.280
  • YOU KNOW, MY OWN SPIRITUAL
  • 00:11:48.280 --> 00:11:49.250
  • JOURNEY IS A DEEP STRUGGLE
  • 00:11:50.170 --> 00:11:53.170
  • OF THE SOUL, VERY DEEP.
  • 00:11:53.170 --> 00:11:56.120
  • IF YOU HAD MET ME
  • 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:57.040
  • IN MY TEENAGE YEARS, YOU WOULD
  • 00:11:57.040 --> 00:11:58.190
  • HAVE CONSIDERED ME THE LAST
  • 00:11:58.190 --> 00:11:59.160
  • PERSON TO EVER BE UP HERE
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:00.130
  • TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS
  • 00:12:00.130 --> 00:12:02.040
  • OR THE LAST PERSON UP HERE
  • 00:12:02.040 --> 00:12:03.030
  • TO EVEN BELIEVE THESE THINGS.
  • 00:12:03.050 --> 00:12:06.050
  • BUT IT WAS ON A BED OF SUICIDE
  • 00:12:06.050 --> 00:12:07.140
  • WHEN I WAS 17 YEARS OLD,
  • 00:12:07.140 --> 00:12:09.050
  • WHEN I HAD NO MEANING,
  • 00:12:09.050 --> 00:12:10.240
  • BECAUSE MY LIFE WAS FRAGMENTED,
  • 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.190
  • COMPLETELY FRAGMENTED.
  • 00:12:12.190 --> 00:12:15.130
  • YOU LEARN THE HARD WAY THAT
  • 00:12:15.250 --> 00:12:18.250
  • BOTH PLEASURE AND PAIN
  • 00:12:18.250 --> 00:12:20.070
  • CAN ULTIMATELY LEAVE YOU EMPTY
  • 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:21.230
  • IF YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:12:21.230 --> 00:12:22.200
  • A TRANSCENDING REASON
  • 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:23.130
  • TO BE ABLE TO FACE EITHER
  • 00:12:23.130 --> 00:12:24.090
  • OF THOSE.
  • 00:12:24.090 --> 00:12:27.070
  • AND IT WAS ON THAT BED
  • 00:12:27.070 --> 00:12:28.050
  • OF SUICIDE FOR THE FIRST TIME
  • 00:12:28.050 --> 00:12:29.010
  • I EVER EVEN HAD A BIBLE
  • 00:12:29.010 --> 00:12:31.140
  • IN MY LAP, AND I SAY "ON MY LAP"
  • 00:12:31.140 --> 00:12:32.180
  • BECAUSE I COULDN'T HOLD IT.
  • 00:12:32.180 --> 00:12:34.280
  • I WAS DEHYDRATED
  • 00:12:34.280 --> 00:12:35.180
  • WITH A POISON IN MY SYSTEM.
  • 00:12:36.150 --> 00:12:39.150
  • AND THE REALITY OF THAT
  • 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:43.240
  • EXPERIENCE WITH OPENING
  • 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.250
  • THE WORD THAT WAS LEFT THERE --
  • 00:12:45.250 --> 00:12:47.190
  • I COULDN'T OPEN IT.
  • 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:48.150
  • MY MOTHER WAS TOLD TO OPEN IT,
  • 00:12:48.150 --> 00:12:50.000
  • AND WITH HER STRUGGLE
  • 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:50.280
  • WITH ENGLISH
  • 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:51.220
  • AND THE KING JAMES LANGUAGE,
  • 00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:54.050
  • IT REALLY DIDN'T MAKE
  • 00:12:54.050 --> 00:12:54.250
  • FOR FUN READING.
  • 00:12:54.250 --> 00:12:57.210
  • BUT I UNDERSTOOD THE HEART
  • 00:12:57.210 --> 00:12:58.180
  • OF WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE,
  • 00:12:58.180 --> 00:13:01.040
  • THE HEART OF WHAT
  • 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:01.240
  • WAS GOING ON THERE.
  • 00:13:01.250 --> 00:13:04.250
  • FAST FORWARD.
  • 00:13:04.250 --> 00:13:06.290
  • TWO YEARS AGO THE BRITISH
  • 00:13:06.290 --> 00:13:07.240
  • BROADCASTING CORPORATION
  • 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:08.280
  • RAN A YEAR-ROUND SURVEY ON
  • 00:13:08.280 --> 00:13:11.030
  • WHAT'S THE GREATEST PROBLEM
  • 00:13:11.030 --> 00:13:12.020
  • FACING HUMANITY.
  • 00:13:12.020 --> 00:13:14.200
  • EVERY YEAR IT WAS EITHER POVERTY
  • 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.000
  • OR ENVIRONMENT, ONE OR TWO,
  • 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.200
  • ONE OR TWO SWITCHING POSITIONS,
  • 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.120
  • POVERTY/ENVIRONMENT,
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.060
  • ENVIRONMENT/POVERTY,
  • 00:13:21.060 --> 00:13:22.210
  • YEAR ON END.
  • 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:23.240
  • 2010, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
  • 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:24.250
  • THEY GOT A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
  • 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.000
  • THEY RELEASED IT
  • 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:29.160
  • IN DECEMBER OF 2010.
  • 00:13:29.270 --> 00:13:32.270
  • YOU KNOW WHAT THE GREATEST
  • 00:13:32.270 --> 00:13:33.240
  • PROBLEM THE WORLD SEES
  • 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:34.160
  • IT'S FACING RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:13:34.290 --> 00:13:37.290
  • CORRUPTION.
  • 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.120
  • CORRUPTION.
  • 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:47.040
  • THE WORLD SAYS IT NO LONGER
  • 00:13:47.040 --> 00:13:48.200
  • TRUSTS ITS LEADERS.
  • 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:51.070
  • IT NO LONGER TRUSTS THOSE
  • 00:13:51.070 --> 00:13:52.250
  • IN AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY SEE
  • 00:13:52.250 --> 00:13:54.160
  • WHAT IS DESTROYING
  • 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:56.180
  • THE HUMAN CONDITION
  • 00:13:56.180 --> 00:13:58.140
  • IS THE CONDITION
  • 00:13:58.140 --> 00:13:59.050
  • OF THE HUMAN HEART.
  • 00:13:59.130 --> 00:14:02.150
  • POVERTY AND ENVIRONMENT,
  • 00:14:02.150 --> 00:14:03.200
  • RELEGATED TO TWO AND THREE,
  • 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.250
  • THAT WHAT STRUGGLES YOU
  • 00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:07.150
  • AND I FACE IN OUR MORAL CHOICES,
  • 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.000
  • THE EXPLOITATION OF THE POOR,
  • 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.220
  • THE EXPLOITATION OF PEOPLE
  • 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:16.120
  • IN SO MANY DIFFERENT ARENAS
  • 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.050
  • OF LIFE AND ALL OF
  • 00:14:18.050 --> 00:14:20.210
  • THE POWER-BROKERING THAT
  • 00:14:20.210 --> 00:14:21.120
  • GOES ON AS MALCOLM MUGGERIDGE
  • 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.090
  • USED TO SAY, "THE LIE STUCK
  • 00:14:23.090 --> 00:14:25.160
  • LIKE A FISHBONE IN THE THROAT
  • 00:14:25.160 --> 00:14:27.060
  • OF THE MICROPHONE," HE SAID.
  • 00:14:27.180 --> 00:14:30.180
  • HE SAID, "WHERE TWO OR THREE
  • 00:14:30.180 --> 00:14:31.140
  • ARE GATHERED TOGETHER
  • 00:14:31.140 --> 00:14:32.250
  • FOR AUTHORITY," HE SAID,
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:34.070
  • "IT'S TRUTH THAT HAS DIED,
  • 00:14:34.070 --> 00:14:35.270
  • NOT GOD."
  • 00:14:35.270 --> 00:14:38.110
  • AND IT WAS IN MY TEENAGE YEARS
  • 00:14:38.110 --> 00:14:39.260
  • FOR THE FIRST TIME I GOT
  • 00:14:39.260 --> 00:14:41.100
  • A GLIMPSE OF MY OWN CULTURE.
  • 00:14:42.150 --> 00:14:45.150
  • SYSTEMICALLY CORRUPT, MY OWN
  • 00:14:45.150 --> 00:14:48.040
  • HEART SYSTEMICALLY CORRUPT.
  • 00:14:48.170 --> 00:14:51.170
  • AND THEN THE ONE THING THAT
  • 00:14:51.170 --> 00:14:52.220
  • I FIND THROUGH THE PROCESS
  • 00:14:52.220 --> 00:14:54.210
  • IN THE ADMISSION OF MY OWN
  • 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:55.170
  • HEART AND LISTENING TO
  • 00:14:55.170 --> 00:14:56.260
  • THE VOICE OF CHRIST AND THE WORD
  • 00:14:56.260 --> 00:14:58.100
  • SAYING, "BECAUSE I LIVE,
  • 00:14:58.100 --> 00:14:59.250
  • YOU ALSO SHALL LIVE,"
  • 00:14:59.250 --> 00:15:01.020
  • WHERE I'M ALLOWED TO BE FREELY
  • 00:15:01.020 --> 00:15:03.060
  • SPEAKING ON IT IN THE LAND
  • 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.170
  • OF MY BIRTH, NOW IN THE LAND
  • 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:06.110
  • WHOSE VERY FRAMEWORK
  • 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:07.220
  • WAS MADE POSSIBLE
  • 00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:08.260
  • BY A TRANSCENDENT NOTION,
  • 00:15:08.260 --> 00:15:10.170
  • VERY FOREIGN TO THE LAND
  • 00:15:10.170 --> 00:15:11.220
  • OF MY BIRTH, NOW WHERE I'M TOLD,
  • 00:15:11.220 --> 00:15:13.140
  • "KEEP YOUR FAITH PRIVATE."
  • 00:15:15.150 --> 00:15:18.150
  • QUITE SHOCKING, QUITE SHOCKING.
  • 00:15:18.210 --> 00:15:21.210
  • GROWING UP IN INDIA,
  • 00:15:21.210 --> 00:15:23.020
  • WHICH IS 80% HINDU,
  • 00:15:23.020 --> 00:15:25.110
  • AT UNIVERSITY OR IN HIGH SCHOOL
  • 00:15:25.110 --> 00:15:27.230
  • 99% OF THE SPEAKERS WERE HINDU.
  • 00:15:28.140 --> 00:15:31.140
  • I DON'T EVER REMEMBER GOING TO
  • 00:15:31.140 --> 00:15:33.110
  • TALK TO A PRINCIPAL
  • 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:34.200
  • OR A PROFESSOR AND SAY,
  • 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:35.150
  • "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?"
  • 00:15:35.150 --> 00:15:37.220
  • IT WAS THE FLOW OF THE CULTURE.
  • 00:15:37.220 --> 00:15:39.220
  • YOU LEARN THAT THAT
  • 00:15:39.220 --> 00:15:40.150
  • TRANSCENDENT NOTION,
  • 00:15:40.150 --> 00:15:41.220
  • THE WORLD VIEW, YOU ACCEPT IT.
  • 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:42.200
  • 10% OF INDIA IS MUSLIM.
  • 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:43.220
  • INDIA WAS ONLY 2.8% CHRISTIAN
  • 00:15:43.220 --> 00:15:45.180
  • AT THAT TIME; NOW THEY SAY
  • 00:15:45.180 --> 00:15:47.020
  • ANYWHERE BETWEEN 4-10%.
  • 00:15:47.020 --> 00:15:48.190
  • CULTURES HAVE PRIORITIES
  • 00:15:48.190 --> 00:15:51.050
  • OF TRANSCENDENT COMMITMENTS
  • 00:15:51.050 --> 00:15:53.120
  • THAT FRAME THEM AND YOU LEARN
  • 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.050
  • TO ACCEPT IT.
  • 00:15:55.050 --> 00:15:56.100
  • IT IS A DANGEROUS MOVE
  • 00:15:56.100 --> 00:15:58.080
  • IN AMERICA TODAY TO TELL THOSE
  • 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:01.090
  • OF FAITH AND TRANSCENDENT
  • 00:16:01.090 --> 00:16:03.020
  • COMMITMENTS, "KEEP IT IN
  • 00:16:03.020 --> 00:16:05.070
  • YOUR PRIVATE ROOM;
  • 00:16:05.070 --> 00:16:06.030
  • DON'T BRING IT OUT INTO PUBLIC."
  • 00:16:06.030 --> 00:16:08.140
  • THAT AMPUTATION, THAT AMPUTATION
  • 00:16:12.280 --> 00:16:15.280
  • IS ULTIMATELY VERY DEADLY.
  • 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:18.220
  • NO, I'M NOT TALKING
  • 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:19.140
  • ABOUT A THEOCRACY.
  • 00:16:19.140 --> 00:16:20.200
  • THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.
  • 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:21.210
  • THAT WOULD BE THE WORST OPTION
  • 00:16:21.210 --> 00:16:22.140
  • TO GO TO.
  • 00:16:22.140 --> 00:16:23.170
  • THAT'S NOT WHAT
  • 00:16:23.170 --> 00:16:24.010
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:16:24.010 --> 00:16:25.000
  • BUT I'M SAYING IN THE ARENA
  • 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:26.030
  • AND THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE
  • 00:16:26.030 --> 00:16:27.150
  • OF IDEAS, EVERY NOTION
  • 00:16:27.150 --> 00:16:30.000
  • THAT CLAIMS LEGITIMACY
  • 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.130
  • TO THE TRUTH OUGHT TO BE GIVEN
  • 00:16:31.130 --> 00:16:33.090
  • A VOICE AT THE TABLE
  • 00:16:33.090 --> 00:16:34.100
  • TO DISCUSS AND DEFEND.
  • 00:16:34.100 --> 00:16:36.170
  • BUT THIS AMPUTATION THAT
  • 00:16:36.170 --> 00:16:37.240
  • TAKES PLACE, AT THE END
  • 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.160
  • OF THE DAY, WILL LEAD TO
  • 00:16:39.160 --> 00:16:41.200
  • A BREAKDOWN OF MEANING.
  • 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.200
  • I WANT TO CLOSE WITH A COUPLE
  • 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.260
  • OF VERY IMPORTANT IDEAS HERE.
  • 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.000
  • YOU KNOW, THE SEARCH FOR MEANING
  • 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.120
  • IS THE MOST CRITICAL SEARCH
  • 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.030
  • THAT ANY HUMAN BEING HAS.
  • 00:16:54.030 --> 00:16:56.220
  • BORIS BECKER, AFTER WINNING
  • 00:16:56.220 --> 00:16:57.260
  • HIS THIRD WIMBLEDON,
  • 00:16:58.020 --> 00:17:01.040
  • SAID THE GREATEST CHALLENGE
  • 00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:02.090
  • HE WAS FACING WAS THAT
  • 00:17:02.090 --> 00:17:03.080
  • OF SUICIDE.
  • 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.040
  • THINK OF ONE OF THE GREATEST
  • 00:17:06.040 --> 00:17:07.090
  • VOICES YOU AND I WOULD HAVE
  • 00:17:07.090 --> 00:17:09.030
  • EVER HEARD, OF WHITNEY HOUSTON.
  • 00:17:10.070 --> 00:17:13.070
  • WHAT A MAGNIFICENT VOICE.
  • 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:16.120
  • AND AS HER COFFIN WAS BEING
  • 00:17:16.120 --> 00:17:18.060
  • WHEELED AND THE MOTHER
  • 00:17:18.060 --> 00:17:19.250
  • WALKING BEHIND IT SAYING,
  • 00:17:19.250 --> 00:17:21.130
  • "MY BABY, MY BABY, MY BABY,"
  • 00:17:23.080 --> 00:17:26.080
  • ONE WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON,
  • 00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:28.280
  • GOT MESSED UP BY THOSE
  • 00:17:28.280 --> 00:17:31.140
  • CONTROLLING HER LIFE,
  • 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:33.180
  • FEEDING THINGS INTO THE SYSTEM
  • 00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:35.050
  • THAT WILL ULTIMATELY
  • 00:17:35.050 --> 00:17:35.270
  • DESTROY HER.
  • 00:17:35.270 --> 00:17:38.010
  • NO SENSITIVE HUMAN BEING COULD
  • 00:17:38.010 --> 00:17:39.110
  • HAVE SEEN THOSE CLOSING MOMENTS
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:41.080
  • OF THAT FUNERAL
  • 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:42.190
  • AND HEARING HER VOICE RINGING
  • 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:44.210
  • THROUGH THE RAFTERS
  • 00:17:44.210 --> 00:17:45.250
  • "I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU."
  • 00:17:45.250 --> 00:17:48.220
  • WHAT A TRAGEDY.
  • 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:50.260
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:17:50.260 --> 00:17:52.140
  • SUCCESS, FAME, DEGREES, POWER,
  • 00:17:54.060 --> 00:17:57.060
  • WEALTH DON'T BRING YOU MEANING.
  • 00:17:58.150 --> 00:18:01.170
  • THEY BECOME MEANS
  • 00:18:01.170 --> 00:18:02.070
  • TO EXPRESS YOUR MEANING.
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:03.230
  • THEY NEVER BRING YOU MEANING
  • 00:18:03.230 --> 00:18:04.190
  • IN AND OF ITSELF.
  • 00:18:04.190 --> 00:18:06.030
  • THE UNITY AND DIVERSITY
  • 00:18:06.030 --> 00:18:08.130
  • OF YOUR LIFE, THAT WHICH
  • 00:18:08.130 --> 00:18:09.150
  • UNITES THE DIVERSITY
  • 00:18:09.150 --> 00:18:10.260
  • OF THE PROCLIVITIES
  • 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:11.280
  • OF YOUR LIFE,
  • 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:13.000
  • THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL
  • 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:13.250
  • ULTIMATELY BRING MEANING
  • 00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:16.160
  • AND COHERENCE.
  • 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:18.090
  • YOU SEE, THERE ARE TWO THOUGHTS
  • 00:18:18.090 --> 00:18:20.250
  • WITH WHICH I WANT TO END
  • 00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:22.280
  • AFTER QUOTING THIS FOR YOU.
  • 00:18:22.280 --> 00:18:25.190
  • I BEGAN BY SAYING CULTURE
  • 00:18:25.190 --> 00:18:27.000
  • IS AN EFFORT TO FIND A COHERENT
  • 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.150
  • SET OF ANSWERS
  • 00:18:28.150 --> 00:18:29.060
  • TO THE EXISTENTIAL QUESTIONS
  • 00:18:29.060 --> 00:18:30.110
  • THAT CONFRONT ALL OF US
  • 00:18:30.110 --> 00:18:31.050
  • IN OUR LIVES.
  • 00:18:31.050 --> 00:18:32.200
  • AND A CULTURAL REVOLUTION
  • 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:33.190
  • TAKES PLACE WHEN YOU MADE
  • 00:18:33.190 --> 00:18:35.070
  • A DECISIVE BREAK FROM
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:35.290
  • THE SHARED MEANINGS OF THE PAST,
  • 00:18:35.290 --> 00:18:37.100
  • PARTICULARLY ONES OF PURPOSE
  • 00:18:37.100 --> 00:18:38.160
  • AND ESSENCE AND DESTINY.
  • 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.050
  • DANIEL YANKELOVICH ENDED
  • 00:18:41.050 --> 00:18:42.020
  • THAT BRILLIANT ARTICLE
  • 00:18:42.020 --> 00:18:43.160
  • IN ATLANTIC MONTHLY WITH THIS.
  • 00:18:43.210 --> 00:18:46.210
  • HE SAID, "WE SURVEYED THE PEOPLE
  • 00:18:46.210 --> 00:18:48.030
  • IN AMERICA, WATCHING THE ROAD
  • 00:18:48.030 --> 00:18:49.260
  • DOWN WHICH THEY ARE GOING.
  • 00:18:49.260 --> 00:18:51.230
  • AND AMONGST THOSE WE SURVEYED
  • 00:18:51.230 --> 00:18:52.220
  • WAS A COUPLE CALLED
  • 00:18:52.220 --> 00:18:53.160
  • ABBY AND MARK."
  • 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.110
  • AND HE ENDS WITH THESE WORDS:
  • 00:18:55.110 --> 00:18:57.200
  • "IF YOU FEEL IT IS IMPERATIVE
  • 00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:59.140
  • TO FILL ALL YOUR NEEDS
  • 00:18:59.140 --> 00:19:01.040
  • AND IF THESE NEEDS ARE
  • 00:19:01.040 --> 00:19:02.000
  • CONTRADICTORY OR IN CONFLICT
  • 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.100
  • WITH THOSE OF OTHERS
  • 00:19:03.100 --> 00:19:04.050
  • OR SIMPLY UNFILLABLE,
  • 00:19:04.050 --> 00:19:05.150
  • THEN FRUSTRATION
  • 00:19:05.150 --> 00:19:06.050
  • INEVITABLY FOLLOWS.
  • 00:19:06.050 --> 00:19:07.240
  • TO ABBY AND TO MARK, AS WELL,
  • 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.020
  • SELF-FULFILLMENT MEANT HAVING
  • 00:19:09.020 --> 00:19:10.110
  • A CAREER AND MARRIAGE
  • 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:11.200
  • AND CHILDREN AND SEXUAL FREEDOM
  • 00:19:12.020 --> 00:19:15.020
  • AND AUTONOMY AND BEING LIBERAL
  • 00:19:15.020 --> 00:19:17.140
  • AND HAVING MONEY AND CHOOSING
  • 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:18.290
  • NON-CONFORMITY AND INSISTING
  • 00:19:18.290 --> 00:19:20.290
  • ON SOCIAL JUSTICE
  • 00:19:20.290 --> 00:19:21.270
  • AND ENJOYING CITY LIFE
  • 00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:23.040
  • AND COUNTRY LIVING
  • 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:24.090
  • AND SIMPLICITY AND GRACIOUSNESS
  • 00:19:24.090 --> 00:19:26.150
  • AND READING AND GOOD FRIENDS
  • 00:19:26.150 --> 00:19:28.080
  • AND ON AND ON.
  • 00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:30.160
  • BUT THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT
  • 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:31.140
  • TRULY FULFILLED BY BECOMING
  • 00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:32.130
  • EVER MORE AUTONOMOUS.
  • 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:34.050
  • INDEED, IT SEEMS THAT TO MOVE
  • 00:19:34.050 --> 00:19:35.100
  • TO THIS FAR IN THIS DIRECTION
  • 00:19:35.100 --> 00:19:37.070
  • IS TO RISK PSYCHOSIS,
  • 00:19:37.070 --> 00:19:39.050
  • THE ULTIMATE FORM OF AUTONOMY."
  • 00:19:40.130 --> 00:19:43.130
  • AND THEN HE ENDS WITH
  • 00:19:43.130 --> 00:19:44.040
  • THESE WORDS: "MAYBE
  • 00:19:44.040 --> 00:19:46.090
  • THE INJUNCTION THAT TO FIND
  • 00:19:46.090 --> 00:19:47.290
  • ONESELF ONE MUST LOSE ONESELF
  • 00:19:48.220 --> 00:19:51.220
  • CONTAINS A TRUTH ANY SEEKER
  • 00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:53.260
  • OF SELF-FULFILLMENT
  • 00:19:53.260 --> 00:19:55.120
  • NEEDS TO GRASP."
  • 00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:58.140
  • TO FIND ONESELF,
  • 00:19:58.140 --> 00:19:59.260
  • ONE MUST LOSE ONESELF CONTAINS
  • 00:19:59.260 --> 00:20:01.150
  • A TRUTH ANY SEEKER
  • 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.040
  • OF SELF-FULFILLMENT
  • 00:20:03.040 --> 00:20:03.290
  • NEEDS TO GRASP.
  • 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:05.070
  • NOW, HOW DOES THIS WORK
  • 00:20:05.070 --> 00:20:07.230
  • IN SOCIETY?
  • 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:09.160
  • HERE'S A CHURCH MAN,
  • 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:11.230
  • A RELIGIOUSLY-MINDED MAN
  • 00:20:11.230 --> 00:20:13.050
  • WHO SAYS THIS, AND THEN I'LL GO
  • 00:20:13.050 --> 00:20:14.150
  • TO AN ATHEIST, WHAT HE SAYS,
  • 00:20:14.150 --> 00:20:16.100
  • AND THEN I WILL CLOSE.
  • 00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:18.020
  • ARTHUR PEACOCKE IS DIRECTOR
  • 00:20:18.020 --> 00:20:19.070
  • OF THE M. RAMSEY CENTER
  • 00:20:19.070 --> 00:20:20.130
  • FOR INTERDISCIPLINARY STUDY
  • 00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.270
  • OF RELIGION AND RELATION
  • 00:20:21.270 --> 00:20:24.040
  • TO SCIENCE AND HE'S A MEMBER
  • 00:20:24.040 --> 00:20:25.110
  • OF THE FACULTY OF THEOLOGY
  • 00:20:25.110 --> 00:20:26.050
  • AT OXFORD UNIVERSITY AND FORMER
  • 00:20:26.050 --> 00:20:27.070
  • DEAN OF CLARE COLLEGE
  • 00:20:27.070 --> 00:20:28.060
  • OF CAMBRIDGE AT THE TIME
  • 00:20:28.060 --> 00:20:29.030
  • OF THIS WRITING.
  • 00:20:29.030 --> 00:20:30.150
  • HERE'S WHAT HE SAYS:
  • 00:20:30.150 --> 00:20:32.080
  • "TO BE TRULY EVANGELIC
  • 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:33.140
  • AND CATHOLIC, THE CHURCH
  • 00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:35.150
  • OF THE NEXT MILLENNIUM WILL NEED
  • 00:20:35.150 --> 00:20:37.040
  • TO HAVE A THEOLOGY THAT WILL
  • 00:20:37.040 --> 00:20:39.140
  • NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE
  • 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:41.150
  • GENUINELY LIBERAL AND EVEN
  • 00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:43.120
  • RADICAL, PARTICULARLY
  • 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.200
  • IN ITS RELATIONSHIP EVERYWHERE
  • 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:47.200
  • SHAPED BY THE SCIENCES.
  • 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.260
  • FOR CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY TO HAVE
  • 00:20:49.260 --> 00:20:51.120
  • ANY VIABILITY, IT MAY WELL HAVE
  • 00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:53.150
  • TO BE STRIPPED DOWN
  • 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:54.170
  • TO A NEWLY CONCEIVED LIST
  • 00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:55.270
  • OF ESSENTIALS, MINIMALIST
  • 00:20:55.270 --> 00:20:58.030
  • IN ITS AFFIRMATIONS.
  • 00:20:58.030 --> 00:21:00.060
  • ONLY THEN WILL IT ATTAIN
  • 00:21:00.060 --> 00:21:01.240
  • THAT DEGREE OF VERISIMILITUDE
  • 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.270
  • WITH RESPECT TO ULTIMATE
  • 00:21:03.270 --> 00:21:05.080
  • REALTIES WHICH SCIENCE
  • 00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:06.240
  • HAS TO NATURAL ONES,
  • 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.130
  • AND ONLY THEN WILL IT COMMAND
  • 00:21:08.130 --> 00:21:09.210
  • RESPECT AS A VEHICLE
  • 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.010
  • OF PUBLIC TRUTH."
  • 00:21:11.010 --> 00:21:12.080
  • HERE'S A PROFESSOR OF THEOLOGY
  • 00:21:12.080 --> 00:21:13.260
  • AT OXFORD, AT THAT TIME, SAYING,
  • 00:21:13.260 --> 00:21:15.140
  • "LOOK, IF THIS IS WHAT
  • 00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:17.150
  • RELIGIONISTS WANT,
  • 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:19.090
  • THEN THE ONLY WAY WE CAN LET
  • 00:21:19.090 --> 00:21:20.140
  • THEM INTO THE ARENA IF THEY
  • 00:21:20.140 --> 00:21:21.230
  • STRIP THEMSELVES OF ALL
  • 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:22.210
  • ESSENTIAL AFFIRMATIONS
  • 00:21:22.210 --> 00:21:24.220
  • AND GO TO A MINIMALIST BELIEF
  • 00:21:24.220 --> 00:21:26.270
  • IN WHAT THEY CLAIM."
  • 00:21:26.270 --> 00:21:28.240
  • ARTHUR PEACOCKE.
  • 00:21:29.030 --> 00:21:32.030
  • MATTHEW PARRIS IS AN ATHEIST
  • 00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:35.080
  • WITH A LIFESTYLE TO BACK IT.
  • 00:21:36.250 --> 00:21:39.250
  • HE WROTE IN A POWERFUL ARTICLE
  • 00:21:40.190 --> 00:21:43.190
  • IN A LEADING INDIAN-ENGLISH
  • 00:21:43.190 --> 00:21:45.060
  • NEWSPAPER IN 2008,
  • 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.200
  • PLEASE LISTEN.
  • 00:21:49.070 --> 00:21:52.070
  • HE SAYS, "BEFORE CHRISTMAS,
  • 00:21:52.070 --> 00:21:55.050
  • I RETURNED TO MALAWI,
  • 00:21:55.050 --> 00:21:56.190
  • THE COUNTRY OF MY BIRTH,
  • 00:21:56.190 --> 00:21:58.200
  • AFTER 45 YEARS.
  • 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:01.090
  • IT WAS A COUNTRY I KNEW AS
  • 00:22:01.090 --> 00:22:02.090
  • A BOY; IT WAS CALLED NYASALAND.
  • 00:22:02.090 --> 00:22:05.020
  • TODAY IT IS MALAWI,
  • 00:22:05.020 --> 00:22:07.090
  • AND THE TIMES CHRISTMAS APPEAL
  • 00:22:07.090 --> 00:22:09.000
  • HERE IN LONDON INCLUDED
  • 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:10.140
  • A SMALL BRITISH CHARITY
  • 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:11.140
  • WORKING THERE.
  • 00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:13.160
  • PUMP AID HELPS RURAL COMMUNITIES
  • 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.110
  • TO INSTALL A SINGLE PUMP,
  • 00:22:15.110 --> 00:22:17.140
  • LETTING PEOPLE KEEP THEIR
  • 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:18.100
  • VILLAGE WELLS SEALED AND CLEAN.
  • 00:22:18.100 --> 00:22:20.110
  • I DECIDED TO GO
  • 00:22:20.110 --> 00:22:21.020
  • AND SEE THIS WORK.
  • 00:22:21.020 --> 00:22:24.020
  • IT INSPIRED ME, RENEWED
  • 00:22:24.020 --> 00:22:25.260
  • MY FLAGGING FAITH IN
  • 00:22:25.260 --> 00:22:26.240
  • DEVELOPMENT CHARITIES.
  • 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.260
  • BUT TRAVELING IN MALAWI
  • 00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:31.070
  • REFRESHED ANOTHER BELIEF, TOO,
  • 00:22:31.070 --> 00:22:32.190
  • ONE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BANISH
  • 00:22:32.190 --> 00:22:35.050
  • ALL MY LIFE.
  • 00:22:35.050 --> 00:22:37.000
  • IT BLATANTLY CONFOUNDS
  • 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.200
  • MY IDEOLOGICAL BELIEVES
  • 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:41.160
  • AND STUBBORNLY REFUSES
  • 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:42.290
  • TO FIT MY WORLD VIEW
  • 00:22:42.290 --> 00:22:44.130
  • AND HAS EMBARRASSED MY GROWING
  • 00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:46.010
  • BELIEF THAT THERE IS NO GOD.
  • 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:48.170
  • NOW AS A CONFIRMED ATHEIST,
  • 00:22:48.170 --> 00:22:50.210
  • I'VE BECOME CONVINCED
  • 00:22:50.210 --> 00:22:51.270
  • OF THE ENORMOUS CONTRIBUTION
  • 00:22:51.270 --> 00:22:53.250
  • THAT CHRISTIAN EVANGELISM
  • 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:55.020
  • MAKES IN AFRICA, SHARPLY
  • 00:22:55.020 --> 00:22:56.290
  • DISTINCT FROM THE SECULAR NGOS.
  • 00:22:56.290 --> 00:22:59.170
  • EDUCATION AND TRAINING ALONE
  • 00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:01.140
  • THERE WILL NOT DO.
  • 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:02.200
  • IN AFRICA, CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:03.290
  • CHANGES PEOPLE'S HEARTS.
  • 00:23:03.290 --> 00:23:05.290
  • IT BRINGS A TRANSFORMATION.
  • 00:23:05.290 --> 00:23:08.020
  • THE REBIRTH IS REAL.
  • 00:23:08.020 --> 00:23:09.190
  • THE CHANGE IS GOOD.
  • 00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:11.220
  • THERE'S LONG BEEN A FASHION
  • 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:12.260
  • AMONG OUR WESTERN ACADEMIC
  • 00:23:12.260 --> 00:23:14.160
  • SOCIOLOGISTS FOR PLACING
  • 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.280
  • TRIBAL VALUE SYSTEMS WITHIN
  • 00:23:15.280 --> 00:23:17.140
  • A RING FENCE BEYOND CRITIQUES
  • 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:19.230
  • FOUNDED IN, QUOTE, THEIRS,
  • 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:21.220
  • AND THEREFORE BEST FOR THEM,
  • 00:23:21.220 --> 00:23:23.090
  • AUTHENTICALLY AND INTRINSICALLY
  • 00:23:23.090 --> 00:23:25.100
  • WORTHY AS OURS.
  • 00:23:25.100 --> 00:23:27.230
  • I SIMPLY DON'T FOLLOW
  • 00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:28.210
  • THIS ANYMORE.
  • 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:30.070
  • I OBSERVED THAT THE TRIBAL
  • 00:23:30.070 --> 00:23:31.170
  • BELIEF IS NO MORE PEACEABLE
  • 00:23:31.170 --> 00:23:33.010
  • THAN OURS AND IT SUPPRESSES
  • 00:23:33.010 --> 00:23:34.190
  • INDIVIDUALITY.
  • 00:23:34.190 --> 00:23:36.030
  • PEOPLE THINK COLLECTIVELY
  • 00:23:36.030 --> 00:23:37.070
  • THIS FEEDS INTO THE BIG MAN
  • 00:23:37.070 --> 00:23:38.260
  • AND GANGSTER POLITICS
  • 00:23:38.260 --> 00:23:40.000
  • OF THE AFRICAN CITY TODAY.
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.010
  • THE EXAGGERATED RESPECT
  • 00:23:42.010 --> 00:23:43.190
  • FOR THE SWAGGERING LEADER
  • 00:23:43.190 --> 00:23:45.060
  • AND THE LITERAL INABILITY
  • 00:23:45.060 --> 00:23:46.210
  • TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE IDEA
  • 00:23:46.210 --> 00:23:48.020
  • OF A LOYAL OPPOSITION, ANXIETY,
  • 00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:50.160
  • FEAR OF SPIRITS OF NATURE
  • 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.180
  • AND THE WILD STRIKES DEEP
  • 00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:54.080
  • INTO THE WHOLE STRUCTURE
  • 00:23:54.080 --> 00:23:55.090
  • OF RURAL AFRICAN THOUGHT.
  • 00:23:55.090 --> 00:23:56.170
  • A GREAT WEIGHT GRINDS DOWN
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:58.080
  • THEIR SPIRIT.
  • 00:23:58.080 --> 00:24:00.110
  • BUT CHRISTIANITY WITH ITS
  • 00:24:00.110 --> 00:24:02.010
  • TEACHING OF A DIRECT PERSONAL
  • 00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.200
  • TWO WAY LINK BETWEEN
  • 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:04.160
  • THE INDIVIDUAL AND GOD,
  • 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.040
  • UNMEDIATED BY THE COLLECTIVE
  • 00:24:06.040 --> 00:24:07.200
  • AND UNSUBORDINATE
  • 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:08.270
  • TO ANY OTHER HUMAN,
  • 00:24:08.270 --> 00:24:10.120
  • BEING SMASHES STRAIGHT THROUGH
  • 00:24:10.120 --> 00:24:11.210
  • THE PHILOSOPHICAL SPIRITUAL
  • 00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:12.250
  • FRAMEWORK I'VE JUST DESCRIBED.
  • 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:14.160
  • THOSE WHO WANT AFRICA
  • 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:15.240
  • TO WALK TALL AMID 21ST CENTURY
  • 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.020
  • GLOBAL COMPETITION MUST
  • 00:24:18.020 --> 00:24:19.180
  • NOT KID THEMSELVES THAT
  • 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:21.010
  • PROVIDING THE MATERIAL MEANS
  • 00:24:21.010 --> 00:24:23.040
  • OR EVEN THE KNOW-HOW
  • 00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:24.120
  • THAT THE COMPANIES,
  • 00:24:24.120 --> 00:24:24.280
  • WHAT WE CALL DEVELOPMENT,
  • 00:24:24.280 --> 00:24:25.240
  • WILL END UP MAKING THE CHANGE.
  • 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.100
  • NO, A WHOLE BELIEF SYSTEM
  • 00:24:27.100 --> 00:24:29.100
  • FIRST MUST BE SUPPLANTED,
  • 00:24:29.100 --> 00:24:32.020
  • AND I'M AFRAID IT HAS TO BE
  • 00:24:32.020 --> 00:24:33.120
  • SUPPLANTED BY ANOTHER.
  • 00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.020
  • REMOVING CHRISTIAN EVANGELISM
  • 00:24:35.020 --> 00:24:38.000
  • FROM THE AFRICAN EQUATION
  • 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.260
  • MAY LEAVE THE CONTINENT
  • 00:24:40.260 --> 00:24:42.250
  • AT THE MERCY OF A MALIGN FUSION
  • 00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:45.040
  • OF NIKE, THE WITCH DOCTOR,
  • 00:24:45.040 --> 00:24:47.020
  • THE MOBILE PHONE,
  • 00:24:47.020 --> 00:24:48.090
  • AND THE MACHETE.
  • 00:24:48.090 --> 00:24:49.250
  • THE THEOLOGIAN ARTHUR PEACOCKE;
  • 00:24:56.270 --> 00:24:59.110
  • THE ATHEIST MATTHEW PARRIS.
  • 00:24:59.110 --> 00:25:01.120
  • I'M WITH MATTHEW PARRIS
  • 00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:02.020
  • - YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING
  • 00:25:03.120 --> 00:25:04.070
  • LET MY PEOPLE THINK
  • 00:25:04.070 --> 00:25:05.070
  • WITH RAVI ZACHARIAS.
  • 00:25:05.070 --> 00:25:07.020
  • WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PRAYERS
  • 00:25:07.020 --> 00:25:08.250
  • AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
  • 00:25:08.250 --> 00:25:10.090
  • IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
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  • THIS MINISTRY OR WOULD LIKE
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  • TO DONATE TO OUR EFFORTS,
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  • YOU CAN CALL US AT
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  • 1-800-448-6766
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  • OR VISIT US ONLINE
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  • AT WWW.RZIM.ORG.
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  • YOU CAN ALSO STAY CONNECTED
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  • TO RZIM THROUGH TWITTER
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  • AND FACEBOOK.
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  • OUR MAILING ADDRESS IS RZIM,
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  • P.O. BOX 1820,
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  • - HELLO FRIENDS,
  • 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:40.140
  • THIS IS RAVI ZACHARIAS
  • 00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:41.170
  • COMING TO YOU
  • 00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:42.190
  • FOR OUR SUMMER APPEAL.
  • 00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:44.290
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE
  • 00:25:44.290 --> 00:25:46.110
  • HOW TIME JUST MOVES SO QUICKLY
  • 00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:49.150
  • SO THAT WE REACH THE MIDDLE
  • 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:50.190
  • OF THE YEAR.
  • 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:51.230
  • BUT, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS
  • 00:25:51.230 --> 00:25:53.130
  • WEEK AFTER WEEK,
  • 00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:54.140
  • MONTH AFTER MONTH
  • 00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:55.210
  • WITH OUR 70 SPEAKERS
  • 00:25:55.210 --> 00:25:56.290
  • SCATTERED AROUND 15 COUNTRIES
  • 00:25:56.290 --> 00:25:59.020
  • AND COVERING EVERY CONTINENT,
  • 00:25:59.020 --> 00:26:01.060
  • IT'S AMAZING TO SEE
  • 00:26:01.060 --> 00:26:02.220
  • WHAT WE SEE
  • 00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:03.280
  • AND TO SEE HOW
  • 00:26:03.280 --> 00:26:04.280
  • PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING.
  • 00:26:04.280 --> 00:26:06.170
  • AT RZIM, WE ARE DOING EVANGELISM
  • 00:26:06.280 --> 00:26:09.280
  • UNDERGIRDED BY APOLOGETICS.
  • 00:26:09.280 --> 00:26:12.010
  • WE'RE INVOLVED IN TRAINING,
  • 00:26:12.010 --> 00:26:13.250
  • WE'RE GETTING INTO
  • 00:26:13.250 --> 00:26:15.000
  • HUMANITARIAN WORK AND,
  • 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.130
  • MOST IMPORTANTLY,
  • 00:26:16.130 --> 00:26:17.220
  • WE ARE HONORING THE CALL
  • 00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:19.000
  • TO WHICH GOD HAS CALLED US
  • 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:20.220
  • TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
  • 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:22.120
  • IN SOME OF THE TOUGHEST AREAS
  • 00:26:22.120 --> 00:26:24.130
  • OF THIS WORLD
  • 00:26:24.130 --> 00:26:25.170
  • AND WE ARE SEEING
  • 00:26:25.170 --> 00:26:26.120
  • AN INCREDIBLE HARVEST.
  • 00:26:26.120 --> 00:26:28.260
  • WILL YOU PLEASE SUPPORT US
  • 00:26:28.260 --> 00:26:29.290
  • WITH YOUR PRAYERS
  • 00:26:29.290 --> 00:26:31.040
  • AND WITH YOUR GIVING?
  • 00:26:31.040 --> 00:26:32.150
  • WE CANNOT GAINSAY
  • 00:26:32.150 --> 00:26:33.200
  • HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.
  • 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.110
  • WE AS A TEAM
  • 00:26:35.110 --> 00:26:36.040
  • WILL HONOR YOUR TRUST
  • 00:26:36.040 --> 00:26:37.230
  • AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WE'LL
  • 00:26:37.230 --> 00:26:38.290
  • HONOR GOD FOR THIS MISSION
  • 00:26:38.290 --> 00:26:41.080
  • FOR WHICH HE HAS PLACED US NOW.
  • 00:26:41.080 --> 00:26:43.020
  • THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME
  • 00:26:43.020 --> 00:26:43.290
  • A HEARING.
  • 00:26:43.290 --> 00:26:44.260
  • PLEASE ASK GOD
  • 00:26:44.260 --> 00:26:45.250
  • - THE MISSION OF RAVI ZACHARIAS
  • 00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:56.190
  • INTERNATIONAL MINISTRIES
  • 00:26:56.190 --> 00:26:58.050
  • IS REALLY TO REACH THE THINKER
  • 00:26:58.050 --> 00:27:00.120
  • AND THE SKEPTIC,
  • 00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:02.030
  • TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS,
  • 00:27:02.030 --> 00:27:04.030
  • AND DO EVANGELISM
  • 00:27:04.030 --> 00:27:05.180
  • UNDERGIRDED BY APOLOGETICS,
  • 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:07.270
  • AND CLEARING ALL OF
  • 00:27:07.270 --> 00:27:08.280
  • THE OBSTACLES THAT STAND
  • 00:27:08.280 --> 00:27:10.070
  • IN THE WAY
  • 00:27:10.070 --> 00:27:11.010
  • SO THAT THE QUESTIONER
  • 00:27:11.010 --> 00:27:11.270
  • CAN TAKE A DIRECT LOOK
  • 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:13.060
  • AT THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:27:13.060 --> 00:27:15.120
  • TO PUT IT SIMPLY,
  • 00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:16.190
  • IT IS TO HELP THE THINKER
  • 00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:17.250
  • TO BELIEVE
  • 00:27:17.250 --> 00:27:18.290
  • AND THE BELIEVER TO THINK.
  • 00:27:18.290 --> 00:27:21.100
  • THE FIVE-FOLD THRUST OF RZIM
  • 00:27:21.100 --> 00:27:24.100
  • HAS ALWAYS BEEN
  • 00:27:24.100 --> 00:27:25.060
  • FIRST AND FOREMOST EVANGELISM.
  • 00:27:25.100 --> 00:27:28.100
  • WE DO EVANGELISM
  • 00:27:28.100 --> 00:27:30.010
  • UNDERGIRDED BY APOLOGETICS.
  • 00:27:30.010 --> 00:27:32.120
  • WE ARE INVOLVED IN TRAINING
  • 00:27:32.120 --> 00:27:34.230
  • PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE
  • 00:27:34.230 --> 00:27:36.050
  • AND WITHIN THE CHURCH,
  • 00:27:36.050 --> 00:27:38.150
  • AND TRAINING OUR YOUNG
  • 00:27:38.150 --> 00:27:39.140
  • TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER
  • 00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:40.180
  • THE QUESTIONS
  • 00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:41.150
  • THAT ARE BEING ASKED OF THEM.
  • 00:27:41.150 --> 00:27:42.270
  • AND THEN SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES,
  • 00:27:42.270 --> 00:27:44.220
  • BECAUSE WE NEVER WANT
  • 00:27:44.220 --> 00:27:45.200
  • TO FORGET THE HEART THAT HAS
  • 00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.100
  • TO BE TOUCHED AND REACHED.
  • 00:27:48.100 --> 00:27:49.210
  • SO WE'VE GOT EVANGELISM,
  • 00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:50.260
  • APOLOGETICS, TRAINING,
  • 00:27:50.260 --> 00:27:52.210
  • AND SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES.
  • 00:27:52.210 --> 00:27:53.270
  • BUT, THERE IS A FIFTH
  • 00:27:53.270 --> 00:27:54.260
  • VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT:
  • 00:27:54.260 --> 00:27:57.070
  • WELLSPRING INTERNATIONAL
  • 00:27:57.070 --> 00:27:58.200
  • IS THE HUMANITARIAN ARM
  • 00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.170
  • OF RZIM WHICH IS APOLOGETICS
  • 00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:03.050
  • WITH A TOUCH.
  • 00:28:03.050 --> 00:28:04.140
  • THESE FIVE COMPONENTS
  • 00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:05.240
  • OF EVANGELISM, APOLOGETICS,
  • 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.080
  • TRAINING, SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES,
  • 00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:10.100
  • AND THE HUMANITARIAN NEED,
  • 00:28:10.100 --> 00:28:11.260
  • THESE ARE THE ISSUES
  • 00:28:11.260 --> 00:28:13.130
  • THAT REALLY CARRY US
  • 00:28:13.130 --> 00:28:14.290
  • - LET MY PEOPLE THINK IS A
  • 00:28:22.050 --> 00:28:23.090
  • LISTENER SUPPORTED TELEVISION
  • 00:28:23.090 --> 00:28:24.150
  • MINISTRY, AND IS FURNISHED BY
  • 00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:26.110
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS INTERNATIONAL
  • 00:28:26.110 --> 00:28:27.290