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September 7, 2020
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Matt and Laurie Crouch and Gabe Lyons host Q2020 Virtual Summit with Tim Keller; Lecrae; Jennie Allen; Voskamp and Andy Crouch

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  • - MATT CROUCH: TONIGHTOUR GOOD FRIEND GABE
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  • LYONS, FOUNDER OF Q,MEETS VIRTUALLY WITH
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  • RENOWN LEADERS AS THEYNAVIGATE THE COMPLEX
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  • INTERSECTION OF FAITH ANDTHE 21ST CENTURY CULTURE.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: WATCHHOW THESE LEADERS CHOOSE
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  • FAITH OVER FEAR.
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  • WE'LL HEAR FROM TIMKELLER, LECRAE, ANDY
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  • CROUCH AND MORE FROM THEQ 2020 SUMMIT RIGHT NOW
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  • ON PRAISE.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - LECRAE: I WANT TO BECAUGHT SURRENDERING AND
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  • DRAWING NEARER TO GOD INTHE MIDST OF DISTRESS, IN
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  • THE MIDST OFA TRYING TIME.
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  • - WE ARE LOOKING ATLASTING CHANGES AND
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  • CONDITIONS THAT WE'LL ALLBE LIVING THROUGH FOR A
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  • LONG TIME.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - OUR MODERN SECULARCULTURE IS NOT JUST POST
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  • CHRISTIAN BUT IT NEEDSTO CHANGE CHRISTIANS.
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  • IN OTHER WORDS, ITHAS TO TARGET US.
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  • - LIFE IS WAVES, ANDTHERE'S NO CONTROLLING
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  • THESE WAVES.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - WE REALLY CAN SEE THECHURCH OPERATE IN ITS
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  • HEALTHIEST FORM I BELIEVECOMING OUT OF THIS.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - I'M EXCITED TO HAVEWITH US FROM NEW YORK
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  • CITY TIM KELLER.
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  • TIM KELLER HAS BEEN IKNOW A VOICE AND A MEANT
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  • OR TO SO MANY OF USTHROUGH HIS BOOKS AND HIS
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  • WRITINGS, SO MANY OF HISWONDERFUL SERMONS AND
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  • TALKS THAT OVER THE LAST30 YEARS HAS INFLUENCED
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  • THE CHURCH IN THE WEST.
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  • DEEP THINKING ABOUT WHEREWE SIT IN OUR CULTURAL
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  • CONTEXT, A FAITHFULNESSTO SCRIPTURE AND TO
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  • TRUSTING GOD AND HISWORDS THAT THEY SHOW UP
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  • IN THIS TIME AND PLACE ASSTRONGLY AS THEY DID IN
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  • THE OLD TESTAMENT,IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
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  • SO WE APPRECIATE HOW MUCHHE HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF
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  • WHAT'S BOTH TRUE ANDFAITHFUL AND ALSO
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  • CONTEXTUALIZE SO THAT AWATCHING WORLD, A LISTENING
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  • WORLD, A WORLD WHO ISCONCERNED WITH CHRISTIANS
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  • AND NOT NECESSARILYATTRACTED TO CHRISTIANITY
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  • WOULD MAYBE TAKE ANOTHERLOOK AND MAYBE LISTEN
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  • CLOSELY BECAUSE THEYUNDERSTAND THAT THE IDEAS
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  • THAT CHRISTIANS AREPUTTING FORWARD ACTUALLY
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  • CAN MAKE SENSE.
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  • THEY CAN LEAD TO AFLOURISHING LIFE.
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  • SO I WANT TO WELCOME INTO THE CONVERSATION FROM
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  • NEW YORK TIM KELLER.
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  • TIM, THANK YOU SO MUCHFOR BEING WITH US.
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  • I KNOW YOU'RE IN YOURAPARTMENT IN NEW YORK
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  • CITY, AND WE APPRECIATEYOU TAKING THE TIME THIS
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  • MORNING TO BE WITH US.
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  • - TIM KELLER: HELLO.
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  • - SO TALK TO US A LITTLEBIT ABOUT NEW YORK CITY.
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  • I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OFPEOPLE LISTENING FROM ALL
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  • OVER THE WORLD WHO ARECONCERNED ABOUT NEW YORK.
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  • THEY KNOW IN AT LEAST INAMERICAN LIFE THIS HAS
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  • BEEN GROUND ZERO YETAGAIN FOR ANOTHER CRISIS.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - AND YOU'VE LIVEDTHROUGH 911 CRISIS.
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  • YOU'RE NOW GOINGTHROUGH THIS ONE.
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  • DESCRIBE FOR US, HAVE YOUEVER SEEN A TIME LIKE
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  • THIS IN NEW YORK?
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  • - WELL, THE PANDEMIC ISMORE LIKE, I WOULD SAY
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  • IT'S MORE LIKE911 THAN UNLIKE.
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  • SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOUA COUPLE SIMILARITIES.
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  • ONE IS THEY'REBOTH UNPRECEDENTED.
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  • IN OTHER WORDS, IN BOTHCASES THE CHURCH
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  • AND THE LEADERS OF THECITY HAD NO REAL TRACKS,
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  • THEY REALLY DIDN'THAVE A GAME PLAN.
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  • IT'S LIKE THIS HASNEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
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  • NOW WHAT?
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  • SO IT'S UNPRECEDENTED.
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  • YOU HAD TO THINKOUTSIDE THE BOX.
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  • SECONDLY, THE DAMAGEWAS MULTI-DIMENSIONAL.
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  • RIGHT NOW THE DAMAGE ISAT LEAST IT'S MEDICAL AND
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  • PHYSICAL SO YOU HAVEPEOPLE DYING AND SICK,
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  • AND THEN SECONDLYIT'S ECONOMIC.
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  • EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUTTHAT, BUT IT'S SOCIAL.
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  • THE PEOPLE BEHINDARE FURTHER BEHIND.
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  • THE KIDS IN THE GOODPRIVATE SCHOOLS THEY'RE
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  • STUDYING ON LINE ANDTHEY'RE GOING
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  • TO GRADUATE.
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  • AND THE KIDS IN THEPUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT
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  • AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOSEA YEAR, AND THEY WERE
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  • ALREADY BEHIND.
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  • AND THAT'S JUST THEBEGINNING OF IT.
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  • IT'S THE AREAS OF THEWORKING CLASS AND THE
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  • POOR AREAS OF THE CITYARE MUCH HARDER HIT
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  • IN EVERY WAY.
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  • SO THERE'S JUST GROWINGSOCIAL INEQUALITY SO IT'S
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  • MULTI-DIMENSIONAL.
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  • IT'S SOCIAL, ECONOMIC.
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  • THE OTHER THING BY THEWAY IS THERE IS, ANOTHER
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  • SIMILARITY IS DO YOUSTAY IN THE CITY?
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  • BECAUSE AFTER 911 ALOT OF PEOPLE LEFT.
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  • THEY SAID IT'S TOODANGEROUS HERE, AND THE
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  • SAME THING ISHAPPENING NOW.
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  • AND THERE'S NO BETTER, BYTHE WAY THERE'S NO BETTER
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  • PLACE TO GO THAN MARTINLUTHER'S ARTICLE, HIS
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  • LETTER WHETHER ONE MAYFLEE FROM A DEADLY PLAGUE.
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  • YOU CAN FIND THAT ALLOVER THE INTERNET.
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  • IT'S INCREDIBLYBALANCED.
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  • HE BASICALLY SAYS SHOULDYOU FLEE IN ORDER
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  • TO BE SAFE?
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  • DO YOU JUST LEAVE THECITY AND GET OUT
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  • OF THE CITY?
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  • AND THE ANSWER IS ITDEPENDS, YES OR NO.
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  • HE'S VERY VERY BALANCED.
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  • YOU HAD THE SAME THING-BUT HERE'S THE LAST
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  • THING IS THAT ALMOSTALL CHURCHES ANYWAY,
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  • CHRISTIAN INSTITUTIONSARE GOING TO BE FACED
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  • WITH NEEDING TODO MORE WITH LESS.
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  • SO JUST TO PUT NUMBERS ONIT AFTER 911, REDEEMER
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  • HAD 25% MORE PEOPLEAND 25% LESS INCOME.
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  • SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE,THE NEEDS WERE MASSIVELY
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  • EXPANDED AND YET BECAUSEPEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS
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  • AND LEFT OF THE CITY ANDALL OF THAT, THE INCOME
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  • WAS HAVING AHUGE SHORTFALL.
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  • AND ALL THE CHURCHES IKNOW ARE SAYING WE HAVE
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  • TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
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  • WE HAVE FAR MORE NEEDSAND WE HAVE LESS
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  • RESOURCES TO DO IT.
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  • AND SO IT MEANS A MAJOR-IT MEANS NOT ONLY A NEW
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  • APPROACH TO STEWARDSHIPBUT ALSO THINKING ABOUT
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  • WHAT YOU SPENDYOUR MONEY ON.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • GOOD POINT.
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  • - SO IT'S MORE LIKEIT THAN NOT FRANKLY.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • THANK YOU FORTHAT COMPARISON.
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  • REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.
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  • I WANT TO PULL BACK FROMTHE GLOBAL PANDEMIC, AND
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  • I WANT TO TALK ABOUTSOME THINGS YOU'VE BEEN
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  • WRITING AND I THINKLEADING THE CHURCH TO
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  • THINK MORE DEEPLY ABOUTOVER THESE LAST COUPLE OF
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  • YEARS, AND THAT IS KINDOF OUR CULTURAL MOMENT.
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  • AND SOME OF THE SHIFTSTHAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING
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  • AGAIN PRE PANDEMIC WHEREWE HAD ENTERED A POST
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  • CHRISTIAN SOCIETY, WE AREIN A NEW MOMENT WHERE
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  • PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUTTRUTH A LOT DIFFERENTLY.
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  • THEY'RE SKEPTICALOF TRUTH.
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  • THEY DON'T TRUSTAUTHORITY OR INSTITUTIONS
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  • AS MUCH.
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  • COULD YOU DESCRIBE JUSTTHE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE IN
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  • AND THAT LIKELY EVENAFTER THIS PANDEMIC WILL
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  • EMERGE OUT OF?
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  • MAYBE SOME OF THATSHIFTS A LITTLE BIT.
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  • MAYBE THERE IS A LITTLENEW OPENNESS, BUT SOME
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  • OF THAT IS JUST SOENGRAINED IN US THAT IT'S
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  • JUST PART OFTHE NEW CULTURE.
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  • SO DESCRIBE FOR PEOPLEHOW PEOPLE ARE THINKING
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  • ABOUT TRUTH THESE DAYS,WHY THEY'RE SKEPTICAL.
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  • - I DON'T SEE THECULTURE TRENDS CHANGING.
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  • SO WHAT ARE THECULTURE TRENDS IS WHAT
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  • YOU'RE ASKING.
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  • ROUGHLY SPEAKING EVERYOTHER CULTURE ALWAYS
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  • THOUGHT THE TRUTH WASSOMETHING OUTSIDE ME.
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  • IT COULD BE FAMILY,GOD, YOU KNOW, DYING
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  • FOR MY COUNTRY.
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  • AND TO BE A PERSON OFHONOR AND WORTH AND
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  • AUTHENTICITY YOU HAD TOFIND THAT TRUTH AND ALIGN
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  • YOUR FEELINGSWITH THE TRUTH.
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  • NOW THE UNDERSTANDINGIS TRUTH IS INSIDE YOU.
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  • YOU GO INSIDE TO FIND THEGREAT DEPTHS, AND THEN
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  • YOU COME OUT AND YOU TELLEVERYBODY ELSE THAT YOU
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  • HAVE TO NOWACCOMMODATE ME.
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  • AND THAT WHAT MEANS ISWE'RE THE FIRST CULTURE
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  • NOT ONLY THAT DOESN'TBELIEVE THERE'S A TRUTH
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  • OUT HERE, THAT IT'S ALLSUBJECTIVE BUT ALSO IT'S
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  • THE FIRST CULTURE THATDOESN'T JUST THINK
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  • CHRISTIANS ARE WRONG BUTTHAT THEY'RE THE PROBLEM
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  • BECAUSE ACTUALLY POSTCHRISTIAN CULTURE IS
  • 00:07:04.236 --> 00:07:07.405
  • BASED ON LIBERATIONFROM CHRISTIANITY.
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  • SO IF YOU GO TO CHINA ORAFRICA AND YOU'RE TALKING
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  • TO ANIMUS OR CONFUCIANISTPEOPLE LIKE THAT, THEY
  • 00:07:13.745 --> 00:07:16.948
  • MAY THINK YOUR WRONG,THEY MAY EVEN WANT TO
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  • KILL YOU BECAUSE YOU'REIMPERIALISTIC, BUT
  • 00:07:19.150 --> 00:07:22.454
  • MODERN SECULAR PEOPLEACTUALLY WOULD SAY THE
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  • THING WE NEED TO BE SAVEDFROM THE IDEA WE NEED TO
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  • BE SAVED.
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  • THE THING WE NEED FROMREDEMPTION IS THE IDEA WE
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  • NEED REDEMPTION.
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  • AND THE ONLY SIN IS TOTELL PEOPLE THAT THEY SIN
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  • WHICH MEANS THE ONLY WAYTO BE FREE IS ACTUALLY TO
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  • LIBERATE YOURSELF FROMCHRISTIANITY WHICH MEANS
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  • OUR MODERN SECULARCULTURE IS NOT JUST
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  • POST CHRISTIAN.
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  • IN SOME WAYS IT'SACTUALLY VERY CHRISTIAN
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  • BECAUSE IT HAS ALL THESAME CHRISTIAN VALUES BUT
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  • IT WANTS THEMWITHOUT GOD.
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  • BUT IT NEEDS TOCHANGE CHRISTIANS.
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  • IN OTHER WORDS, ITHAS TO TARGET US.
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  • WE'VE GOT -WE REALLY, WEREALLY CAN'T BE THERE
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  • BECAUSE WE'RETHE PROBLEM.
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  • - RIGHT, AND THAT --- SO IT'S BASICALLY
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  • EVANGELIZING US.
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  • MAYBE I SHOULDN'TSAY THIS.
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  • IT'S THE ONLY -THEY'RETRYING TO CONCERT US INTO
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  • BEING SECULARISTS.
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  • AND IT'S EXTREMELYIMPORTANT THAT WE CONVERT.
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  • - WELL, AND I THINK YOURPOINT THAT PEOPLE ARE
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  • SEEKING TO KNOW THETRUTH BY LOOKING INSIDE
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  • THEMSELVES AND WHATEVERTHEY'RE FEELING,
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  • THEY BELIEVE THAT'S THE MOSTAUTHORITATIVE AND TRUE
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  • THING ABOUT THE WORLD.
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  • AND THEN WE ALL HAVE TOSUBJECT OURSELVES TO
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  • THOSE FEELINGS WHICHWE'RE SEEING THAT PLAY
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  • OUT BIG TIME IN THISCULTURE WITH WHAT WE CAN
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  • SAY, HOW WE RESPOND TOPEOPLE, THE WAY IN WHICH
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  • IF YOU HOLD AN OPINIONTHAT SAYS THERE'S AN
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  • AUTHORITY OUTSIDEOURSELVES THAT WE'RE
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  • GOING TO ALIGN OUR LIVESTO AS CHRISTIANS, THAT
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  • GOD HAS ALREADY SET UP AMORAL TRUTH AND WE NEED
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  • TO FIND THAT AND WE NEEDTO LIVE INTO THAT, YOU
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  • KNOW, YOU ARE LOOKED ATAS A PROBLEM IN
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  • THIS SOCIETY.
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  • YOU ALSO REFERENCED THEEARLY CHURCH SOCIAL
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  • PROJECT AS MAYBESOMETHING WE SHOULD BE
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  • TAKING A FRESH LOOK ATAGAIN AND HOW THE EARLY
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  • CHURCH OPERATED IN ACULTURE WHERE IT WAS A
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  • MINORITY, IT DIDN'T HAVEPOWER, IT WAS MAYBE
  • 00:08:59.050 --> 00:09:01.886
  • LOOKED UPON WITH LOTS OFDISDAIN BY THE CURRENT
  • 00:09:01.987 --> 00:09:04.823
  • LEADERS AND AUTHORITIESIN THAT TIME, AND YET IT
  • 00:09:04.923 --> 00:09:07.325
  • MOVES FORWARD, YOUKNOW, IN THE FIRST,
  • 00:09:07.425 --> 00:09:09.294
  • SECOND CENTURY.
  • 00:09:09.394 --> 00:09:10.762
  • COULD YOU DESCRIBE FOR USWHAT WERE SOME OF THE
  • 00:09:10.862 --> 00:09:12.998
  • ELEMENTS OF THAT EARLYSOCIAL PROJECT THAT WE
  • 00:09:13.098 --> 00:09:14.699
  • SHOULD MAYBE RETHINKAND RECAPTURE?
  • 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.635
  • - I GOT THIS FROM LARRYHURTADA'S BOOK ON DESTROYER
  • 00:09:16.735 --> 00:09:19.371
  • OF THE GODS, JUST ANINSIGHT IS THE EARLY
  • 00:09:19.471 --> 00:09:23.341
  • CHRISTIANS, THEIR SOCIALPROJECT MEANING THEIR
  • 00:09:23.441 --> 00:09:25.777
  • COMMUNITY WAS MARKED BYFIVE THINGS THINK
  • 00:09:25.877 --> 00:09:28.279
  • ABOUT IT.
  • 00:09:28.380 --> 00:09:29.347
  • IT WAS MULTI ETHNIC, ANDHE MAKES THE CASE IT WAS
  • 00:09:29.447 --> 00:09:32.384
  • REALLY THE FIRST MULTIETHNIC RELIGION SO IT WAS
  • 00:09:32.484 --> 00:09:34.185
  • VERY BIG ON RACIALJUSTICE AND EQUALITY.
  • 00:09:34.285 --> 00:09:37.789
  • IT WAS ALSO VERYORIENTED TO THE POOR.
  • 00:09:37.889 --> 00:09:40.025
  • VERY MUCH CARINGFOR THE POOR.
  • 00:09:40.125 --> 00:09:42.360
  • SO LET'S CALL THATECONOMIC JUSTICE.
  • 00:09:42.460 --> 00:09:44.462
  • RACIAL JUSTICE,ECONOMIC JUSTICE.
  • 00:09:44.562 --> 00:09:45.730
  • THIRDLY IT WAS CONCILIATORY,
  • 00:09:45.830 --> 00:09:49.367
  • THAT IS IF YOU KILL THECHRISTIAN THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:09:49.467 --> 00:09:51.136
  • COME AND KILL YOU.
  • 00:09:51.236 --> 00:09:52.637
  • SO THERE WAS BRIDGEBUILDING, FORGIVING,
  • 00:09:52.737 --> 00:09:55.440
  • WILLING TO TALK.
  • 00:09:55.540 --> 00:09:57.642
  • FOURTH, IT WAS PRO-LIFE.
  • 00:09:57.742 --> 00:10:00.712
  • I PUT IT THIS WAY, IT WASAGAINST INFANTICIDE AND
  • 00:10:00.812 --> 00:10:03.548
  • ABORTION, AND THEY'D GOTAKE BABIES WHO WERE
  • 00:10:03.648 --> 00:10:06.017
  • THROWN OUT AND THEY WOULDCOME BRING IT BACK AND
  • 00:10:06.117 --> 00:10:07.652
  • ADOPT THEM.
  • 00:10:07.752 --> 00:10:08.853
  • AND LASTLY IT BELIEVEDTHAT SEX WAS ONLY BETWEEN
  • 00:10:08.953 --> 00:10:11.189
  • A MAN AND A WOMANIN MARRIAGE.
  • 00:10:11.289 --> 00:10:13.892
  • SO IT WAS A SEXUALCOUNTER CULTURE.
  • 00:10:13.992 --> 00:10:15.760
  • IT WAS PRO-LIFE.
  • 00:10:15.860 --> 00:10:16.761
  • IT WAS CIVIL AND OPENTO PEACEMAKING AND
  • 00:10:16.861 --> 00:10:20.298
  • BRIDGE BUILDING.
  • 00:10:20.398 --> 00:10:21.433
  • IT WAS FOR ECONOMICJUSTICE AND
  • 00:10:21.533 --> 00:10:23.101
  • RACIAL JUSTICE.
  • 00:10:23.201 --> 00:10:23.935
  • NOW, LOOK ATTHOSE FIVE THINGS.
  • 00:10:24.035 --> 00:10:25.203
  • IT WAS CATEGORY DEFYINGNOW AND IT IS NOW THEN.
  • 00:10:25.303 --> 00:10:28.173
  • NOW, THE FIRST TWO, RACEAND ECONOMIC JUSTICE
  • 00:10:28.273 --> 00:10:30.508
  • SOUNDS DEMOCRAT.
  • 00:10:30.608 --> 00:10:32.444
  • THE LAST 2, PRO-LIFE ANDTRADITIONAL SEXUALITY
  • 00:10:32.544 --> 00:10:37.816
  • SOUNDS REPUBLICAN.
  • 00:10:37.916 --> 00:10:39.217
  • AND THE MIDDLE ONE,CIVILITY, DOESN'T SOUND
  • 00:10:39.317 --> 00:10:41.653
  • LIKE EITHER DEMOCRATS ORREPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:10:41.753 --> 00:10:43.788
  • AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSEFIVE THINGS, THAT JUST
  • 00:10:43.888 --> 00:10:46.224
  • BREAKS THE CATEGORIES.
  • 00:10:46.324 --> 00:10:47.692
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:10:47.792 --> 00:10:48.827
  • - AND RIGHT NOW THE BIGDANGER IS THAT REPUBLICAN
  • 00:10:48.927 --> 00:10:51.696
  • LEADING, CONSERVATIVE TYPEEVANGELICALS PUT A LOT OF
  • 00:10:51.796 --> 00:10:55.900
  • EMPHASIS ON THE PRO-LIFEAND THE TRADITIONAL
  • 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:59.804
  • SEXUALITY, AND THEY'REAFRAID OF TALKING TOO
  • 00:10:59.904 --> 00:11:02.373
  • MUCH ABOUT THE TROUBLEWITH RACISM AND THE
  • 00:11:02.474 --> 00:11:04.075
  • PROBLEMS OF POVERTY ANDEQUALITY BECAUSE IT
  • 00:11:04.175 --> 00:11:05.410
  • SOUNDS TOO LIBERAL.
  • 00:11:05.510 --> 00:11:06.811
  • SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEINGSAID USED BY THE CULTURE
  • 00:11:06.911 --> 00:11:09.280
  • TO BACK AWAY FROM THINGSTHAT WERE TRADITIONALLY A
  • 00:11:09.380 --> 00:11:13.418
  • BIBLICAL EMPHASIS.
  • 00:11:13.518 --> 00:11:14.486
  • AND THE SAME THING ISTHE OTHER WAY AROUND.
  • 00:11:14.586 --> 00:11:15.453
  • YOU'VE GOT A BLUEEVANGELICALISM AND A RED
  • 00:11:15.553 --> 00:11:17.122
  • EVANGELICALISM.
  • 00:11:17.222 --> 00:11:18.389
  • A LOT OF YOUNGEREVANGELICALS WANT TO TALK
  • 00:11:18.490 --> 00:11:20.992
  • ABOUT RACE AND JUSTICEALL THE TIME BUT THEY'RE
  • 00:11:21.092 --> 00:11:22.994
  • AFRAID OF TALKING ABOUTABORTION, HOMOSEXUALITY
  • 00:11:23.094 --> 00:11:25.563
  • BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANTTO LOOK LIKE BIGOTS.
  • 00:11:25.663 --> 00:11:27.665
  • THE REALITY IS THE BIBLEDOES NOT FIT INTO OUR
  • 00:11:27.766 --> 00:11:29.968
  • PARTISAN DIVISIONS.
  • 00:11:30.068 --> 00:11:32.003
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:11:32.103 --> 00:11:33.071
  • THAT'S A GREAT POINT ANDA GOOD WORD FOR A YEAR
  • 00:11:33.171 --> 00:11:34.539
  • WHERE WE HAVE AN ELECTIONAND THERE WILL BE A LOT
  • 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.041
  • OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUTWHO TO SUPPORT, WHERE
  • 00:11:37.142 --> 00:11:39.444
  • SHOULD CHRISTIANS BE -ONEFINAL THOUGHT, TIM, AS WE
  • 00:11:39.544 --> 00:11:43.448
  • RAP UP, YOU'RE TALKING TOCHRISTIANS LEADERS AGAIN
  • 00:11:43.548 --> 00:11:46.050
  • AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARECONCERNED WITH THIS NEXT
  • 00:11:46.151 --> 00:11:48.486
  • SEASON AND WANTING TO BEFAITHFUL AND WANTING TO
  • 00:11:48.586 --> 00:11:50.655
  • BE GOOD STEWARDS OFWHAT'S GOD'S GIVEN
  • 00:11:50.755 --> 00:11:54.225
  • TO THEM.
  • 00:11:54.325 --> 00:11:55.326
  • WOULD YOU JUST ENCOURAGEUS AS WE MOVE INTO THE
  • 00:11:55.426 --> 00:11:57.028
  • SEASON AHEAD INTO HOW WECAN APPROACH THIS NEXT
  • 00:11:57.128 --> 00:11:59.898
  • YEAR COMING OUT OF ALOT OF CHANGE, A LOT OF
  • 00:11:59.998 --> 00:12:03.501
  • TRAUMA FOR PEOPLE, A LOTOF NEW QUESTIONS
  • 00:12:03.601 --> 00:12:05.336
  • BEING ASKED?
  • 00:12:05.436 --> 00:12:06.504
  • HOW WOULD YOU ENCOURAGETHESE LEADERS AS THEY
  • 00:12:06.604 --> 00:12:10.008
  • MOVE INTO A SEASON WHERETHINGS MIGHT START TO
  • 00:12:10.108 --> 00:12:11.442
  • OPEN UP AGAIN.
  • 00:12:11.543 --> 00:12:12.744
  • WE MIGHT START TO HAVESOME NEW CONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:12:12.844 --> 00:12:14.579
  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO US?
  • 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:16.347
  • - YEAH, ACTUALLY YOU'RERIGHT IN SAYING THAT
  • 00:12:16.447 --> 00:12:19.017
  • BETWEEN THE LOCK DOWNAND THE VACCINE BEING
  • 00:12:19.117 --> 00:12:23.288
  • AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHOWANTS IT IS GOING TO BE
  • 00:12:23.388 --> 00:12:27.759
  • AN INTERIM PERIOD AND IDON'T KNOW WHAT IT
  • 00:12:27.859 --> 00:12:29.160
  • LOOKS LIKE.
  • 00:12:29.260 --> 00:12:30.361
  • ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS ITWILL TAKE 2 THINGS, IT
  • 00:12:30.461 --> 00:12:32.163
  • WILL TAKE INNOVATIVE THINKING.
  • 00:12:32.263 --> 00:12:34.599
  • IT'S SO IMPOSSIBLE TOTELL WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
  • 00:12:34.699 --> 00:12:37.735
  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEGOVERNMENTS ARE GOING TO DO.
  • 00:12:37.836 --> 00:12:40.705
  • YOU DON'T KNOW HOW FASTTHE MEDICAL ADVANCES ARE
  • 00:12:40.805 --> 00:12:42.707
  • GOING TO BE.
  • 00:12:42.807 --> 00:12:43.808
  • SO YOU REALLY ARE GOINGTO HAVE TO BE CONSTANTLY
  • 00:12:43.908 --> 00:12:46.878
  • TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:12:46.978 --> 00:12:48.046
  • I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUBUT I DON'T WANT GET MY
  • 00:12:48.146 --> 00:12:50.448
  • BEST IDEAS JUSTSITTING IN A ROOM.
  • 00:12:50.548 --> 00:12:52.817
  • I GOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:12:52.917 --> 00:12:54.752
  • SO THERE'S GOT TO BE MORENETWORKING AND TALKING TO
  • 00:12:54.853 --> 00:12:57.355
  • BE INNOVATIVE.
  • 00:12:57.455 --> 00:12:58.456
  • SECONDLY IS YOU ALWAYSLEAD THROUGH SACRIFICE.
  • 00:12:58.556 --> 00:13:02.460
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT -DON'TASK ME FOR EXAMPLES
  • 00:13:02.560 --> 00:13:04.596
  • BECAUSE I'M SAYING IT'SGOING TO TALK -TO ME THE
  • 00:13:04.696 --> 00:13:09.767
  • CHURCH IN GENERAL ISGOING TO HAVE SPEND LESS
  • 00:13:09.868 --> 00:13:11.469
  • MONEY ON ITSELF, THAT ISIT'S OWN PROGRAMS AND
  • 00:13:11.569 --> 00:13:14.472
  • MORE MONEY ON THEPEOPLE OF NEED.
  • 00:13:14.572 --> 00:13:16.641
  • AND THE ONLY WAY THEY DOTHAT IS GOING TO BE CUT
  • 00:13:16.741 --> 00:13:19.244
  • THINGS THAT YOU'REDOING RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:13:19.344 --> 00:13:21.045
  • DOES IT MEAN SACRIFICINGPART OF YOUR SALARY AS A
  • 00:13:21.145 --> 00:13:24.482
  • WAY OF MAKING SURE THATYOU'RE ABLE TO MEET NEEDS
  • 00:13:24.582 --> 00:13:26.818
  • IN YOUR COMMUNITY?
  • 00:13:26.918 --> 00:13:27.685
  • I DON'T KNOW, BUTLEADERSHIP HAPPENS
  • 00:13:27.785 --> 00:13:29.320
  • THROUGH INNOVATION ANDSACRIFICE ALWAYS.
  • 00:13:29.420 --> 00:13:31.089
  • AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVETO DO BOTH OF THESE IN
  • 00:13:31.189 --> 00:13:34.392
  • THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
  • 00:13:34.492 --> 00:13:35.894
  • - WELL, TIM, WE JUSTTHANK YOU FOR YOUR
  • 00:13:35.994 --> 00:13:37.262
  • FAITHFUL LEADERSHIP, FORHOW YOU HAVE PASTORED SO
  • 00:13:37.362 --> 00:13:40.265
  • MANY OF US EVEN FROM NEWYORK AND CARED FOR US AND
  • 00:13:40.365 --> 00:13:43.001
  • HELPED US INOUR THINKING.
  • 00:13:43.101 --> 00:13:44.168
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:13:44.269 --> 00:13:44.869
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:13:44.969 --> 00:13:46.237
  • - THIS IS A WAR, AND WECAN'T TREAT IT LIKE OH, I
  • 00:13:46.337 --> 00:13:49.040
  • NEED TO FEEL BETTER.
  • 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:50.208
  • I WANT TO BE HAPPIER.
  • 00:13:50.308 --> 00:13:51.075
  • I'M GOING TO THINK ALITTLE BIT
  • 00:13:51.175 --> 00:13:52.844
  • HEALTHIER THOUGHTS.
  • 00:13:52.944 --> 00:13:53.544
  • IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.
  • 00:13:53.645 --> 00:13:54.178
  • THIS IS A WAR.
  • 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:55.246
  • - I WANT TO BE CAUGHTSURRENDERING AND DRAWING
  • 00:13:55.346 --> 00:13:57.315
  • NEAR TO GOD IN THE MIDSTOF DISTRESS, IN THE MIDST
  • 00:13:57.415 --> 00:13:59.584
  • OF A TRYING TIME.
  • 00:13:59.684 --> 00:14:03.087
  • - FROM DALLAS, TEXAS,JENNIE ALLEN.
  • 00:14:03.187 --> 00:14:04.689
  • JENNIE, THANK YOUSO MUCH FOR BEING WITH
  • 00:14:04.789 --> 00:14:06.190
  • US TODAY.
  • 00:14:06.291 --> 00:14:06.925
  • IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
  • 00:14:07.025 --> 00:14:08.526
  • - JENNIE ALLEN: GREATTO SEE YOU TOO, FRIEND.
  • 00:14:08.626 --> 00:14:09.928
  • - SO SOME PEOPLELISTENING THEY'VE NEVER
  • 00:14:10.028 --> 00:14:12.030
  • HEARD OF THEIF GATHERING.
  • 00:14:12.130 --> 00:14:13.398
  • THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITHTHE WORK THAT YOU DO.
  • 00:14:13.498 --> 00:14:15.500
  • I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHANDFROM THE BEGINNING OF HOW
  • 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.335
  • YOU'VE JUST HAD A HEARTAND A PASSION TO
  • 00:14:17.435 --> 00:14:19.337
  • GATHER WOMEN.
  • 00:14:19.437 --> 00:14:20.738
  • YOU'RE A BIBLE TEACHER.
  • 00:14:20.838 --> 00:14:22.006
  • YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.
  • 00:14:22.106 --> 00:14:23.374
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:23.474 --> 00:14:24.375
  • - AND LIVE THEWORD OF GOD.
  • 00:14:24.475 --> 00:14:25.810
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:25.910 --> 00:14:27.412
  • - WOULD YOU TALK ALITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:14:27.512 --> 00:14:28.713
  • PASSION FOR THAT?
  • 00:14:28.813 --> 00:14:30.081
  • WHEN DID GODGIVE THAT TO YOU?
  • 00:14:30.181 --> 00:14:32.450
  • AND HOW HAVE YOU BEENTRYING TO STEWARD THAT
  • 00:14:32.550 --> 00:14:34.786
  • THESE LAST MANY YEARS?
  • 00:14:34.886 --> 00:14:35.954
  • - WELL, YEAH.
  • 00:14:36.054 --> 00:14:37.588
  • IT'S INTERESTING TIMES,AND I'M SO ENCOURAGED BY
  • 00:14:37.689 --> 00:14:39.691
  • THE OPPORTUNITY THISBRINGS TO THE CHURCH
  • 00:14:39.791 --> 00:14:42.627
  • BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE SEENFOR THE LAST 7 YEARS IS
  • 00:14:42.727 --> 00:14:45.463
  • THAT YOU CAN REACH SO FARBECAUSE OF THE TOOLS OF THE
  • 00:14:45.563 --> 00:14:47.999
  • INTERNET AND THE THINGSWE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL
  • 00:14:48.099 --> 00:14:51.436
  • EVEN RECENTLY INTHE LAST DECADE.
  • 00:14:51.536 --> 00:14:53.237
  • SO WHEN WE STARTED ANDREALLY WHEN THE VISION
  • 00:14:53.338 --> 00:14:56.040
  • WAS GIVEN TO ME THETECHNOLOGY THAT WE'D USE
  • 00:14:56.140 --> 00:14:57.942
  • TO REACH THE WORLD DIDN'TEXIST BUT THE WORDS THAT
  • 00:14:58.042 --> 00:15:00.178
  • GOD PUT ON MY HEART WEREDISCIPLE A GENERATION.
  • 00:15:00.278 --> 00:15:02.714
  • AND THAT'S REALLYOUR GOAL TODAY.
  • 00:15:02.814 --> 00:15:04.749
  • WE HAVE REALLY NEVERVEERED FROM THAT GOAL.
  • 00:15:04.849 --> 00:15:06.851
  • WE KNEW THAT WOULD TAKE APLETHORA OF PEOPLE AND WE
  • 00:15:06.951 --> 00:15:10.388
  • ALSO KNEW IT WOULD MEANGOING THROUGH THE
  • 00:15:10.488 --> 00:15:12.357
  • LOCAL CHURCH.
  • 00:15:12.457 --> 00:15:13.491
  • WE REALLY BELIEVE THELOCAL CHURCH IS THE
  • 00:15:13.591 --> 00:15:14.859
  • GREATEST MEANS FORDISCIPLES TO BE MADE.
  • 00:15:14.959 --> 00:15:17.462
  • AND LIFE ON LIFEDISCIPLESHIP IS BEST DONE
  • 00:15:17.562 --> 00:15:20.064
  • IN PERSON FACE-TO-FACE.
  • 00:15:20.164 --> 00:15:21.866
  • SO WE'VE BUILT SOMETHINGTHAT WENT TO PEOPLE
  • 00:15:21.966 --> 00:15:24.002
  • RATHER THAN ASKINGTHEM TO COME TO US.
  • 00:15:24.102 --> 00:15:26.104
  • THE MODEL PRIOR TO US,JUST PRIOR TO US HAD BEEN
  • 00:15:26.204 --> 00:15:28.573
  • WOMEN OF FAITH, ANDTHAT WAS COME TO US.
  • 00:15:28.673 --> 00:15:31.042
  • COME TO THESE BIGGATHERINGS, AND THAT WAS
  • 00:15:31.142 --> 00:15:32.710
  • POWERFUL AND ITSERVED IT'S TIME.
  • 00:15:32.810 --> 00:15:35.880
  • AND WE SAW REALLYA DIFFERENT NEED.
  • 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:38.282
  • WE REALLY BELIEVE THATGOING TO PEOPLE'S HOMES,
  • 00:15:38.383 --> 00:15:41.419
  • MINISTERING TO THEM ASTHEY LOVED AND BROUGHT IN
  • 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.054
  • THEIR NEIGHBORSWAS OUR MODEL.
  • 00:15:43.154 --> 00:15:45.790
  • AND MAN, IT WAS TIMELYAND IT SURE HAS HELPED IN
  • 00:15:45.890 --> 00:15:49.560
  • THIS CRISIS FOR US TOHAVE THAT ACCESS TO
  • 00:15:49.660 --> 00:15:51.796
  • PEOPLE RIGHT NOW IN THEIRLIVING ROOMS AT HOME
  • 00:15:51.896 --> 00:15:53.931
  • BRINGING THEIR, HOPEFULLYBRINGING THEIR PEOPLE IN
  • 00:15:54.032 --> 00:15:56.434
  • SMALL GROUPS TOGETHERIN THE COMING MONTHS.
  • 00:15:56.534 --> 00:15:58.302
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:58.403 --> 00:15:59.437
  • WE'VE MOVED INTO THIS NEWSEASON NOW WHERE CHURCHES
  • 00:15:59.537 --> 00:16:01.439
  • AREN'T ABLE TO GATHER.
  • 00:16:01.539 --> 00:16:02.440
  • MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST ABLETO GATHER WITH
  • 00:16:02.540 --> 00:16:04.075
  • THEIR FAMILY.
  • 00:16:04.175 --> 00:16:05.610
  • AND DO FAMILYDISCIPLESHIP.
  • 00:16:05.710 --> 00:16:07.211
  • AND I THINK IT SORT OFCREATED SOME ALARMS
  • 00:16:07.311 --> 00:16:09.914
  • BECAUSE AS PEOPLE ARE PUTINTO THAT SITUATION, YOU
  • 00:16:10.014 --> 00:16:13.484
  • HAVE A LOT OF MOMS ANDDADS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE
  • 00:16:13.584 --> 00:16:15.386
  • NEVER REALLY LED THEIRFAMILIES IN A CHURCH
  • 00:16:15.486 --> 00:16:18.256
  • SERVICE, NEVER BEEN PUTIN THAT POSITION TO SEE
  • 00:16:18.356 --> 00:16:20.958
  • THEMSELVES AS THESPIRITUAL AUTHORITY IN
  • 00:16:21.059 --> 00:16:23.094
  • THEIR FAMILY IN A WAYTHEY NEED TO TEACH.
  • 00:16:23.194 --> 00:16:25.730
  • THEY NEED TO HELP THEIRFAMILY UNDERSTAND
  • 00:16:25.830 --> 00:16:27.865
  • THE WORD.
  • 00:16:27.965 --> 00:16:28.800
  • IT CAN BE VERYINTIMIDATING.
  • 00:16:28.900 --> 00:16:30.868
  • BUT AS I SEE YOU WALKINTO THIS, I KNOW YOU
  • 00:16:30.968 --> 00:16:33.104
  • DON'T WANT PEOPLETO BE INTIMIDATED.
  • 00:16:33.204 --> 00:16:34.505
  • YOU WANT THEM TO SEETHIS IS AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:16:34.605 --> 00:16:36.474
  • OPPORTUNITY AND THATGOD MEETS YOU IN THAT.
  • 00:16:36.574 --> 00:16:38.976
  • CAN YOU JUST ENCOURAGEPEOPLE WHO TODAY ARE NEED
  • 00:16:39.077 --> 00:16:41.045
  • THAT ENCOURAGEMENTTHAT THEY CAN DO IT?
  • 00:16:41.145 --> 00:16:42.513
  • IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
  • 00:16:42.613 --> 00:16:43.848
  • - WELL, LET'S GO BACK TOHOW IF GATHERING STARTED
  • 00:16:43.948 --> 00:16:46.551
  • BECAUSE IT'S SUCH ATESTIMONY OF THIS.
  • 00:16:46.651 --> 00:16:48.152
  • WE DIDN'T KNOW HOWWE'D REACH THE WORLD.
  • 00:16:48.252 --> 00:16:50.588
  • WE JUST THOUGHT LET'SJUST OPEN IT UP AND SEE
  • 00:16:50.688 --> 00:16:52.356
  • WHO RAISES THEIR HANDAND WHO SAYS YES.
  • 00:16:52.457 --> 00:16:54.225
  • PEOPLE INTERVIEWED ME -WEHAD 1500 EVENTS OUR
  • 00:16:54.325 --> 00:16:56.060
  • FIRST YEAR.
  • 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:58.096
  • AND ALL WE SAID WAS WOULDYOU WANT TO HOST IN YOUR
  • 00:16:58.196 --> 00:17:01.099
  • HOME AND 1500 PLUSPEOPLE SAID YES.
  • 00:17:01.199 --> 00:17:03.301
  • SO WHEN I LOOK BACK ATTHAT SEASON WE DIDN'T
  • 00:17:03.401 --> 00:17:05.803
  • HAVE A MARKETING TEAM.
  • 00:17:05.903 --> 00:17:07.505
  • WE HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLETHAT GOT PAID BY
  • 00:17:07.605 --> 00:17:09.307
  • OUR MINISTRY.
  • 00:17:09.407 --> 00:17:11.175
  • WE JUST ASKED WOULDYOU ALL WANT TO BE
  • 00:17:11.275 --> 00:17:14.679
  • PART OF THIS.
  • 00:17:14.779 --> 00:17:15.780
  • AND WHY I TELL THAT STORYIN LIGHT OF YOUR QUESTION
  • 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.181
  • IS I THINK PEOPLEARE HUNGRY TO LEAD.
  • 00:17:17.281 --> 00:17:19.417
  • AND I THINK WHAT IFGATHERINGS TAP INTO WAS A
  • 00:17:19.517 --> 00:17:22.019
  • DEEP DESIRE TOPARTICIPATE IN THE
  • 00:17:22.120 --> 00:17:24.122
  • DISCIPLESHIP PROCESS, NOTJUST TO HAVE IT SPOON FED
  • 00:17:24.222 --> 00:17:26.557
  • TO THEM.
  • 00:17:26.657 --> 00:17:27.625
  • SO THE POWER OF THISMOMENT IF WE CAN SEIZE IT
  • 00:17:27.725 --> 00:17:29.427
  • AND REALLY SEE IT AS THISOPPORTUNITY IS WE ALL
  • 00:17:29.527 --> 00:17:33.297
  • NEED TO STEP UP AND LEAD.
  • 00:17:33.397 --> 00:17:35.633
  • THE CHURCH IS AND WE'VEALWAYS KNOWN THIS, IT'S
  • 00:17:35.733 --> 00:17:39.036
  • ALL THE PEOPLE INSIDE.
  • 00:17:39.137 --> 00:17:40.638
  • I LEARNED IT INKINDERGARTEN.
  • 00:17:40.738 --> 00:17:42.406
  • HERE'S THE STEEPLE ANDHERE'S ALL THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:17:42.507 --> 00:17:44.542
  • AND IT'S THE PEOPLEINSIDE AND IT'S THE
  • 00:17:44.642 --> 00:17:46.244
  • PEOPLE SPREAD OUT.
  • 00:17:46.344 --> 00:17:47.378
  • AND SO WE REALLY CAN SEETHE CHURCH OPERATE IN ITS
  • 00:17:47.478 --> 00:17:50.515
  • HEALTHIEST FORM I BELIEVECOMING OUT OF THIS
  • 00:17:50.615 --> 00:17:53.117
  • BECAUSE WHATARE WE VALUING?
  • 00:17:53.217 --> 00:17:55.453
  • WE'RE VALUING FRONTPORCH NEIGHBORS.
  • 00:17:55.553 --> 00:17:57.788
  • WE'RE VALUING FAMILY.
  • 00:17:57.889 --> 00:17:59.957
  • WE'RE VALUING A COMINGTOGETHER OVER THE SIMPLE
  • 00:18:00.057 --> 00:18:02.593
  • THINGS OF GOD, THE WORDOF GOD TAUGHT, THE WORD
  • 00:18:02.693 --> 00:18:05.630
  • PRAYED, THE SPIRIT OF GODWE ARE CALLING ON HIM.
  • 00:18:05.730 --> 00:18:10.234
  • SO I THINK THE SIMPLETHINGS ARE GOING TO MAKE
  • 00:18:10.334 --> 00:18:12.603
  • A GREAT COMEBACK AFTER THIS.
  • 00:18:12.703 --> 00:18:14.071
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:18:14.172 --> 00:18:16.073
  • I CERTAINLY HOPE SO.
  • 00:18:16.174 --> 00:18:17.008
  • I KNOW I'VE SEENTHAT IN OUR OWN LIFE.
  • 00:18:17.108 --> 00:18:18.209
  • I HAVE A GROUP OF 15GUYS, 2 GIVE GROUPS NOW,
  • 00:18:18.309 --> 00:18:19.677
  • WE'RE MEETING OVER ZOOM,GOING THROUGH THE BOOK OF
  • 00:18:19.777 --> 00:18:21.846
  • REVELATION, DOINGDISCIPLESHIP.
  • 00:18:21.946 --> 00:18:23.681
  • OUR DAUGHTER WHO IS 14DECIDED SCHOOL IS OUT.
  • 00:18:23.781 --> 00:18:27.018
  • I'M GOING TO GATHERSOME OF MY FRIENDS.
  • 00:18:27.118 --> 00:18:29.220
  • TEN OF MY FRIENDS FROMSCHOOL, AND I'M GOING TO
  • 00:18:29.320 --> 00:18:31.122
  • LEAD A BIBLE STUDY.
  • 00:18:31.222 --> 00:18:32.156
  • SHE'S TAKEN THEMTHROUGH ESTHER.
  • 00:18:32.256 --> 00:18:33.424
  • - WOW.
  • 00:18:33.524 --> 00:18:34.325
  • - SHE'S NEVERDONE THAT BEFORE.
  • 00:18:34.425 --> 00:18:35.359
  • AND IT TOOKCOURAGE, RIGHT?
  • 00:18:35.459 --> 00:18:36.527
  • YET I'VE FOUND THAT EVERYPERSON I INVITED TO DO A
  • 00:18:36.627 --> 00:18:40.665
  • BIBLE STUDY SAID YESBECAUSE THEY HAD THE TIME
  • 00:18:40.765 --> 00:18:42.667
  • AND THEY BASICALLY ARELOOKING TO GET INTO THE
  • 00:18:42.767 --> 00:18:45.269
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:18:45.369 --> 00:18:46.370
  • THERE'S A HUNGER THAT'SCOMING BACK FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:18:46.470 --> 00:18:47.972
  • WHO MAYBE HAVEN'T SPENTAS MUCH TIME IN THE WORD.
  • 00:18:48.072 --> 00:18:49.974
  • SO ARE YOU SEEING THATHAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE
  • 00:18:50.074 --> 00:18:53.544
  • COMMUNITY OF WOMENYOU'VE BEEN LEADING?
  • 00:18:53.644 --> 00:18:55.479
  • - YES.
  • 00:18:55.580 --> 00:18:56.547
  • - THAT THEY'RE TAKINGADVANTAGE OF THIS
  • 00:18:56.647 --> 00:18:57.481
  • OPPORTUNITY TO GODEEPER WITH PEOPLE?
  • 00:18:57.582 --> 00:18:58.883
  • - WELL, LET'S BE REAL.
  • 00:18:58.983 --> 00:19:00.518
  • THERE'S SO MUCH DIGITALCONTENT OUT THERE
  • 00:19:00.618 --> 00:19:03.521
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:19:03.621 --> 00:19:04.488
  • WHAT IS BLESSING US?
  • 00:19:04.589 --> 00:19:05.790
  • WHAT IS CAUSINGUS TO GROW?
  • 00:19:05.890 --> 00:19:06.924
  • IT'S REAL LIFERELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:19:07.024 --> 00:19:08.092
  • IT'S A PHONE CALLWITH A FRIEND.
  • 00:19:08.192 --> 00:19:09.860
  • IT IS -EVEN THOUGHTHE ZOOM CALLS ARE
  • 00:19:09.961 --> 00:19:11.762
  • IMPERSONAL, IT'S STILLHAVING SOMEBODY TO INVITE
  • 00:19:11.862 --> 00:19:14.065
  • YOU TO SOMETHING.
  • 00:19:14.165 --> 00:19:15.166
  • ESTHER HAVENS INVITED USRECENTLY AND AUSTIN MANN
  • 00:19:15.266 --> 00:19:17.001
  • INVITED US TO DOUBLEDATE RECENTLY AND WE SAT
  • 00:19:17.101 --> 00:19:20.638
  • TANDI SHOULD CLARIFY. GASKED, AND I MEAN DOUBLE
  • 00:19:20.738 --> 00:19:28.045
  • SO I THINK WE ARE ALLCRAVING RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:19:28.145 --> 00:19:30.448
  • WITH HIGHER REGARDSTHAN WE EVER HAVE.
  • 00:19:30.548 --> 00:19:34.085
  • SO YES IT TAKESINITIATORS AND IT TAKES
  • 00:19:34.185 --> 00:19:35.953
  • ALL OF US SAYING I'MGOING TO DO THIS, AND I
  • 00:19:36.053 --> 00:19:37.989
  • WANT TO STAND UP ANDINVITE RATHER THAN WAIT
  • 00:19:38.089 --> 00:19:41.592
  • TO BE INVITED.
  • 00:19:41.692 --> 00:19:42.727
  • I THINK THAT'S AHUGE PART OF THIS.
  • 00:19:42.827 --> 00:19:44.161
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:19:44.262 --> 00:19:45.263
  • YOU RECENTLY WROTE A BOOKTHAT'S BEEN A NEW YORK
  • 00:19:45.363 --> 00:19:46.464
  • TIMES BEST SELLER CALLEDGET OUT OF YOUR HEAD,
  • 00:19:46.564 --> 00:19:48.799
  • STOPPING THE SPIRALOF TOXIC THOUGHTS.
  • 00:19:48.899 --> 00:19:51.068
  • THIS CAME OUT IN EARLYFEBRUARY PRIOR TO
  • 00:19:51.168 --> 00:19:54.605
  • COVID 19 BEING ON THE RADARFOR PEOPLE, BUT THIS IDEA
  • 00:19:54.705 --> 00:19:57.208
  • OF HOW WE THINK, AND INTERMS OF DISCIPLESHIP
  • 00:19:57.308 --> 00:19:59.977
  • CHRIST TALKS ABOUT THIS,RIGHT, THAT OUR THOUGHTS
  • 00:20:00.077 --> 00:20:02.346
  • MATTER AND HOW WE THINKEVEN ABOUT FEAR AND FAITH
  • 00:20:02.446 --> 00:20:05.616
  • PLAYS INTO HOW WE'REGOING TO RESPOND.
  • 00:20:05.716 --> 00:20:07.818
  • SHARE WITH US A LITTLEBIT FROM THAT ABOUT HOW
  • 00:20:07.918 --> 00:20:10.454
  • WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN INTHAT BOOK CAN BE APPLIED
  • 00:20:10.554 --> 00:20:12.957
  • TO THE SEASON WE'REGOING THROUGH NOW.
  • 00:20:13.057 --> 00:20:14.425
  • - OH, I MEAN, GOD CANONLY HAVE KNOWN THE
  • 00:20:14.525 --> 00:20:16.961
  • TIMING THAT ITWOULD COME OUT.
  • 00:20:17.061 --> 00:20:18.362
  • AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL.
  • 00:20:18.462 --> 00:20:19.997
  • I'M GRATEFUL PERSONALLYTHAT I GOT TO DO THE WORK
  • 00:20:20.097 --> 00:20:22.466
  • SO THAT I COULDPERSONALLY BE IN A BETTER
  • 00:20:22.566 --> 00:20:25.002
  • PLACE BECAUSE I'DCERTAINLY WROTE THIS OUT
  • 00:20:25.102 --> 00:20:26.671
  • OF MY OWN NEED AND SEEINGSOME UNHEALTHY TOXIC
  • 00:20:26.771 --> 00:20:30.241
  • PATTERNS IN MY OWN LIFE.
  • 00:20:30.341 --> 00:20:31.409
  • BUT I'M ALSO GRATEFUL ITCAN HELP OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:20:31.509 --> 00:20:33.711
  • BECAUSE THERE ISA LOT OF HOPE.
  • 00:20:33.811 --> 00:20:35.413
  • I DID THE SCIENCE WORK ASWELL AS BIBLE WORK, AND
  • 00:20:35.513 --> 00:20:37.648
  • THEY BOTH SUPPORT EACHOTHER, THAT WE CAN CHANGE
  • 00:20:37.748 --> 00:20:40.451
  • OUR MIND, THAT WE'RENOT STUCK IN THESE
  • 00:20:40.551 --> 00:20:42.987
  • UNHEALTHILYTOXIC PATTERNS.
  • 00:20:43.087 --> 00:20:44.355
  • AND I'M NOT SAYING THATMENTAL ILLNESS CAN JUST
  • 00:20:44.455 --> 00:20:46.324
  • BE CHANGED WITHOUR THINKING.
  • 00:20:46.424 --> 00:20:47.491
  • I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT.
  • 00:20:47.591 --> 00:20:49.493
  • I BELIEVE IN COUNSELINGAND MEDICINE PLAYING
  • 00:20:49.593 --> 00:20:52.263
  • THEIR ROLESPOTENTIALLY IN THAT.
  • 00:20:52.363 --> 00:20:54.432
  • I'M JUST SAYING THECONSTANT TOXIC THOUGHTS
  • 00:20:54.532 --> 00:20:57.068
  • THAT WE HAVE WE CANINTERRUPT THEM, AND
  • 00:20:57.168 --> 00:20:58.602
  • SCRIPTURE IS VERYCLEAR ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:20:58.703 --> 00:21:00.304
  • AND WHAT'S COOL IS THENEURO SCIENCE OF THE LAST
  • 00:21:00.404 --> 00:21:03.140
  • TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARSREALLY IS WHEN THEY'RE
  • 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:04.942
  • STARTING TO REALIZE HOWPLIABLE THE BRAIN IS AND
  • 00:21:05.042 --> 00:21:07.978
  • THAT OUR PATTERNSCAN SHIFT.
  • 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.448
  • BUT THEY DO DIG IN PRETTYDEEP, AND YOU'VE GOT TO
  • 00:21:10.548 --> 00:21:13.084
  • WORK AND TRAIN ANDBE DISCIPLINED AND
  • 00:21:13.184 --> 00:21:15.453
  • FIGHT THIS.
  • 00:21:15.553 --> 00:21:16.487
  • AND I THINK MY MAIN TAKEAWAY FROM THAT PROCESS
  • 00:21:16.587 --> 00:21:18.456
  • WAS JUST THIS IS A WAR.
  • 00:21:18.556 --> 00:21:19.824
  • AND WE CAN'T TREAT ITLIKE OH, I NEED TO
  • 00:21:19.924 --> 00:21:21.759
  • FEEL BETTER. I WANTTO BE HAPPIER.
  • 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:23.894
  • I'M GOING TO THINK ALITTLE BIT
  • 00:21:23.994 --> 00:21:25.096
  • HEALTHIER THOUGHTS.
  • 00:21:25.196 --> 00:21:26.130
  • IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.
  • 00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:27.231
  • THIS IS A WAR AND WE'VEGOT TO FIGHT IT WITH OUR
  • 00:21:27.331 --> 00:21:28.632
  • STRONGEST WEAPONS ANDWE'VE GOT TO TREAT THIS
  • 00:21:28.733 --> 00:21:30.634
  • AS SOMETHING THAT'S VERYSERIOUS AND THAT'S REALLY
  • 00:21:30.735 --> 00:21:33.738
  • AFFECTING EVERYPART OF OUR LIVES.
  • 00:21:33.838 --> 00:21:35.639
  • AND HOW I WOULD APPLY ITTO THIS TIME, I MEAN,
  • 00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:37.675
  • WHAT A GREAT MOMENT TOWORK ON OUR THOUGHT LIVES.
  • 00:21:37.775 --> 00:21:40.778
  • YOU KNOW, THIS ISEVERYTHING -EVERYBODY IS
  • 00:21:40.878 --> 00:21:43.280
  • SOMEWHAT AFRAIDOF SOMETHING.
  • 00:21:43.381 --> 00:21:44.749
  • IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FOREACH PERSON, BUT WE ALL
  • 00:21:44.849 --> 00:21:46.350
  • HAVE THE THING THAT HASTHROWN OUR CURVE BALL IN
  • 00:21:46.450 --> 00:21:48.919
  • OUR DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:21:49.019 --> 00:21:50.721
  • AND HOW DO WE RESPOND INSO I THINK WE HAVE TIME
  • 00:21:50.821 --> 00:21:54.225
  • RIGHT NOW AND WE'REFACE-TO-FACE WITH OUR OWN
  • 00:21:54.325 --> 00:21:57.361
  • THOUGHTS, SO I THINKTIMELINESS IS, YEAH,
  • 00:21:57.461 --> 00:21:59.397
  • IT'S THERE.
  • 00:21:59.497 --> 00:22:00.531
  • - IT'S CERTAINLY ASEASON TO REEVALUATE, TO
  • 00:22:00.631 --> 00:22:01.866
  • START TO TRAIN SOMENEURO PATHWAYS IN A
  • 00:22:01.966 --> 00:22:03.567
  • NEW DIRECTION.
  • 00:22:03.667 --> 00:22:04.935
  • FINALLY GENERALLY, JUSTWHAT ARE YOUR HOPES FOR
  • 00:22:05.035 --> 00:22:07.805
  • THE CHURCH?
  • 00:22:07.905 --> 00:22:09.106
  • WE'RE CONCLUDINGOUR 2 DAYS TOGETHER.
  • 00:22:09.206 --> 00:22:10.541
  • WE'VE HEARD A LOT HEREAROUND THE CHALLENGES,
  • 00:22:10.641 --> 00:22:13.210
  • THE OPPORTUNITIES, KINDOF A RESET, AND ARE YOU
  • 00:22:13.310 --> 00:22:17.314
  • SEEING THAT AS YOU THINKABOUT THE NEXT SEASON?
  • 00:22:17.415 --> 00:22:19.950
  • I KNOW YOU'REA VISIONARY.
  • 00:22:20.050 --> 00:22:21.152
  • WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'REHOPING AND PRAYING FOR AS
  • 00:22:21.252 --> 00:22:24.121
  • YOU LOOK AT THIS NEXTYEAR AHEAD WITH SO MUCH
  • 00:22:24.221 --> 00:22:26.357
  • CHANGE AND UNCERTAINTYFOR THE CHURCH?
  • 00:22:26.457 --> 00:22:28.659
  • - WELL, I'M REALLYHOPEFUL AND EXCITED.
  • 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:31.295
  • I THINK RESETSARE IMPORTANT.
  • 00:22:31.395 --> 00:22:33.030
  • AND I DON'T THINK WE'VEHAD ENOUGH OF THEM IN OUR
  • 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:35.232
  • GENERATION, AND I'MCERTAINLY NOT SAYING THIS
  • 00:22:35.332 --> 00:22:36.600
  • IS A GOOD THING, BUT ITHINK THERE IS
  • 00:22:36.700 --> 00:22:38.002
  • GOOD IN IT.
  • 00:22:38.102 --> 00:22:39.136
  • AND THE GOOD THAT IS INIT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
  • 00:22:39.236 --> 00:22:41.672
  • COME BACK TO REALLIFE RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:22:41.772 --> 00:22:43.941
  • THIS IS OUR --TRAVELING,OUR PACE, EVERYTHING IT
  • 00:22:44.041 --> 00:22:46.744
  • KIND OF SHUT DOWN, ANDWHAT WE DO HAVE TIME FOR
  • 00:22:46.844 --> 00:22:48.646
  • IN MARGIN AS IT OPENSUP, AND IT WILL OPEN I
  • 00:22:48.746 --> 00:22:50.314
  • BELIEVE IN PHASES WITHWISDOM THAT WE CAN
  • 00:22:50.414 --> 00:22:54.118
  • PROBABLY EASILY PULLTOGETHER A SMALL GROUP IN
  • 00:22:54.218 --> 00:22:56.020
  • A FEW MONTHS AND JUSTTHINGS LIKE THAT.
  • 00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:59.190
  • SO WHAT I SEE COMING ISWHAT MY BIGGEST PASSION,
  • 00:22:59.290 --> 00:23:04.261
  • I BELIEVE JESUS' BIGGESTPASSION WAS WHICH IS REAL
  • 00:23:04.361 --> 00:23:06.597
  • LIFE ON LIFEDISCIPLESHIP.
  • 00:23:06.697 --> 00:23:07.698
  • IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHOHAS CHANGED YOUR LIFE THE
  • 00:23:07.798 --> 00:23:09.867
  • MOST, IT'S PROBABLY FIVEPEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW IN
  • 00:23:09.967 --> 00:23:11.902
  • REAL LIFE.
  • 00:23:12.002 --> 00:23:12.703
  • IT'S PROBABLY NOTFAMOUS PEOPLE.
  • 00:23:12.803 --> 00:23:14.038
  • IT'S FIVE PEOPLE THATHAVE SAT ACROSS FROM YOU
  • 00:23:14.138 --> 00:23:15.873
  • AND YOU HAVE SEEN THEIREYE BALLS, AND THAT IS
  • 00:23:15.973 --> 00:23:17.341
  • WHAT I PRAY WE RECLAIMIN THE CHURCH IS A
  • 00:23:17.441 --> 00:23:19.176
  • RECLAIMING OF LIFE ONLIFE DISCIPLESHIP AS A
  • 00:23:19.276 --> 00:23:21.779
  • MEANS TO CHANGETHE WORLD.
  • 00:23:21.879 --> 00:23:23.447
  • IT IS WHAT CHRIST KNEWWORKED AND IT IS WHAT I
  • 00:23:23.547 --> 00:23:25.483
  • BELIEVE WE HAVE TORE EMBRACE AND RECLAIM TO
  • 00:23:25.583 --> 00:23:27.451
  • SEE REVIVAL, TO SEE THEGOSPEL GO OUT IN
  • 00:23:27.551 --> 00:23:30.688
  • OUR GENERATION.
  • 00:23:30.788 --> 00:23:31.822
  • - WELL JENNIE,THANK YOU.
  • 00:23:31.922 --> 00:23:32.957
  • I KNOW YOU'RE PRAYINGFOR REVIVAL, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:23:33.057 --> 00:23:34.892
  • PUTTING FEET TO THESEIDEAS AND TAKING ACTION
  • 00:23:34.992 --> 00:23:39.530
  • AND YOU'RE HELPING SOMANY AND INSPIRING SO
  • 00:23:39.630 --> 00:23:41.932
  • MANY SO THANK YOU SO MUCHFOR YOUR FAITHFULNESS IN
  • 00:23:42.032 --> 00:23:43.701
  • THIS SEASON AND FORYOUR LEADERSHIP.
  • 00:23:43.801 --> 00:23:45.169
  • - I WANT TO BE CAUGHTSURRENDERING AND ARE
  • 00:23:45.269 --> 00:23:47.838
  • DRAWING NEAR TO GOD INTHE MIDST OF DISTRESS, IN
  • 00:23:47.938 --> 00:23:50.374
  • THE MIDST OFA TRYING TIME.
  • 00:23:50.474 --> 00:23:52.176
  • - AND DARK WATERS UNDERA DARK SKY, THE LYRIC OF
  • 00:23:52.276 --> 00:23:54.879
  • LAMENT IS THE SONGOF THE STRONG.
  • 00:23:54.979 --> 00:23:57.181
  • LAMENT GIVES US ASTRENGTH TO NOT GIVE UP
  • 00:23:57.281 --> 00:23:59.283
  • BUT TO GIVE OVER.
  • 00:23:59.383 --> 00:24:01.085
  • ♪♪
  • 00:24:01.185 --> 00:24:02.753
  • - I HOPE YOU'VE ENJOYEDLISTENING TO WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:24:02.853 --> 00:24:04.955
  • ALL BEEN ENGAGED IN.
  • 00:24:05.055 --> 00:24:06.056
  • THERE'S JUST TOO MUCHTO PUT IT ALL INTO ONE
  • 00:24:06.156 --> 00:24:07.992
  • VIDEO, BUT IF YOU LIKEDWHAT YOU HEARD, I HOPE
  • 00:24:08.092 --> 00:24:10.728
  • YOU'LL GO BACK AND WATCHALL OF THESE SESSIONS
  • 00:24:10.828 --> 00:24:12.730
  • WITH US, OVER 12 HOURS OFLISTENING AND LEARNING
  • 00:24:12.830 --> 00:24:15.132
  • FROM SOME OF THE TOPLEADERS WHO RIGHT NOW ARE
  • 00:24:15.232 --> 00:24:16.967
  • THINKING WELL ABOUT WHATDOES IT MEAN FOR US AS
  • 00:24:17.067 --> 00:24:19.169
  • THE CHURCH TO MOVEFORWARD WITH FAITH AND
  • 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:21.372
  • CONFIDENCE IN A MOMENTWHERE MANY ARE REACTING
  • 00:24:21.472 --> 00:24:23.407
  • WITH FEAR. HOW CAN WE GETCREATIVE? HOW CAN WE LEAD?
  • 00:24:23.507 --> 00:24:26.844
  • WE BELIEVE THERE'S A NEWOPPORTUNITY BEING BORN,
  • 00:24:26.944 --> 00:24:28.546
  • AND WE NEED TO LEAD.
  • 00:24:28.646 --> 00:24:30.114
  • BUT HOW WE DO IT ISGOING TO BE CRITICAL.
  • 00:24:30.214 --> 00:24:31.782
  • SO I HOPE YOU'LL JOINUS BY GOING TO YOU
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  • QIDEAS.ORG/2020,PURCHASING YOUR
  • 00:24:34.351 --> 00:24:36.987
  • VIRTUAL PASS.
  • 00:24:37.087 --> 00:24:38.355
  • NOT ONLY WILL IT ALLOWYOU TO WATCH THESE TALKS
  • 00:24:38.455 --> 00:24:40.190
  • BUT ALSO GIVE YOU ACCESSTO THE MANY Q TALKS THAT
  • 00:24:40.291 --> 00:24:42.693
  • WE'VE MADE OVER THEPAST MANY YEARS.
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  • JOIN US AT Q 2020.
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  • ♪♪
  • 00:24:47.898 --> 00:24:52.836
  • - SO I KNOW A LOT OFPEOPLE ARE USING THIS
  • 00:24:52.937 --> 00:24:54.338
  • RESET SEASON TO ACTUALLYGET MORE ART IN THEIR
  • 00:24:54.438 --> 00:24:56.807
  • LIFE AND TO ENJOY SOMETHINGS THEY JUST HAD
  • 00:24:56.907 --> 00:24:58.609
  • STOPPED TAKING TIME FOR,SO I'M EXCITED FOR US TO
  • 00:24:58.709 --> 00:25:00.611
  • HEAR FROM AN ARTISTHIMSELF WHO IS IN THE
  • 00:25:00.711 --> 00:25:03.047
  • MIDDLE OF CREATING EVENAS WE SPEAK FOR HIS
  • 00:25:03.147 --> 00:25:05.549
  • NEXT ALBUM.
  • 00:25:05.649 --> 00:25:06.617
  • SO WE WANT TO TALK TOLECRAE ABOUT ART AND IT'S
  • 00:25:06.717 --> 00:25:09.053
  • POWER TO HEAL. SOLECRAE, WELCOME.
  • 00:25:09.153 --> 00:25:10.955
  • THANK YOU FOR JOININGUS FROM ATLANTA.
  • 00:25:11.055 --> 00:25:13.023
  • - LECRAE: APPRECIATE YOU.GLAD TO BE HERE.
  • 00:25:13.123 --> 00:25:15.259
  • - YEAH, MAN. IT'S ALWAYSGOOD TO SEE YOU.
  • 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.094
  • HOW IS YOUR FAMILY DOINGAND WHAT HAS BEEN SEASON
  • 00:25:17.194 --> 00:25:18.996
  • BEEN LIKE FOR YOU?
  • 00:25:19.096 --> 00:25:20.297
  • I'M SURE YOU HAD A BUNCHOF THINGS CANCEL AND
  • 00:25:20.397 --> 00:25:22.466
  • YOU'VE BEEN SITTING ATHOME A LOT MORE THAN YOU'RE
  • 00:25:22.566 --> 00:25:24.368
  • USED TO.
  • 00:25:24.468 --> 00:25:25.302
  • - YEAH, YOU KNOW,MY HEART GOES OUT TO
  • 00:25:25.402 --> 00:25:30.341
  • EVERYBODY WHOSE HAD TOSTRUGGLE THROUGH THE
  • 00:25:30.441 --> 00:25:32.843
  • DIFFICULTY OF THIS TIME.
  • 00:25:32.943 --> 00:25:35.079
  • IT HAS FOR ME THOUGHBEEN A LITTLE REFRESHING
  • 00:25:35.179 --> 00:25:41.318
  • BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN SOMEUNIQUE TIME WITH
  • 00:25:41.418 --> 00:25:43.687
  • THE FAMILY.
  • 00:25:43.787 --> 00:25:44.822
  • I'M NOW THE ASSISTANTPRINCIPLE OF CORONA
  • 00:25:44.922 --> 00:25:47.691
  • ACADEMY HERE AT MY HOUSE.
  • 00:25:47.791 --> 00:25:50.728
  • [LAUGHTER] I DOUBLE ASA FIRST AND SECOND GRADE
  • 00:25:50.828 --> 00:25:53.097
  • TEACHER, THE JANITOR, THELUNCH GUY, SO YOU KNOW
  • 00:25:53.197 --> 00:25:56.433
  • I'M DOING PRETTYGOOD OVER HERE.
  • 00:25:56.533 --> 00:25:58.569
  • - THAT'S GREAT.
  • 00:25:58.669 --> 00:25:59.737
  • I BECAME A KINDERGARTENTEACHER IN THE LAST SIX
  • 00:25:59.837 --> 00:26:01.939
  • WEEKS, SO THAT'S BEENEXCITING FOR ME.
  • 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.142
  • I DID GET A LITTLE BIT OFA KINDERGARTEN EDUCATION
  • 00:26:05.242 --> 00:26:06.744
  • IN COLLEGE.
  • 00:26:06.844 --> 00:26:08.345
  • THAT'S A WHOLE OTHERSTORY, BUT LISTEN MAN, WE
  • 00:26:08.445 --> 00:26:10.581
  • KNOW THAT ART CAN BE AHEALING BALM FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:26:10.681 --> 00:26:12.483
  • IN TIMES LIKE THIS.
  • 00:26:12.583 --> 00:26:14.752
  • YOU'RE AN ARTIST.
  • 00:26:14.852 --> 00:26:15.853
  • I MEAN, TALK ABOUT THEROLE ART PLAYS FOR ALL OF
  • 00:26:15.953 --> 00:26:18.322
  • US BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'SPLENTY OF PEOPLE RIGHT
  • 00:26:18.422 --> 00:26:20.057
  • NOW GETTINGREACQUAINTED WITH ART.
  • 00:26:20.157 --> 00:26:22.026
  • MAYBE THEY'RE BREAKINGOUT THE TURNTABLE AGAIN.
  • 00:26:22.126 --> 00:26:24.094
  • MAYBE THEY'RE TRYINGTO FIND SOME OF THEIR
  • 00:26:24.194 --> 00:26:25.963
  • FAVORITE MUSIC.
  • 00:26:26.063 --> 00:26:27.531
  • THEY'RE PAINTING MAYBEMORE, BUT WHAT IS IT
  • 00:26:27.631 --> 00:26:30.134
  • ABOUT ART THAT JUST DOESSOMETHING FOR OUR SOUL
  • 00:26:30.234 --> 00:26:32.469
  • AND WHY DO WENEED IT SO MUCH?
  • 00:26:32.569 --> 00:26:34.171
  • - YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT'SINTRINSIC OBVIOUSLY TO BE
  • 00:26:34.271 --> 00:26:39.977
  • MADE IN THE IMAGE OF ACREATOR WHO CREATES SUCH
  • 00:26:40.077 --> 00:26:44.915
  • BEAUTY ALL AROUND US,AND I THINK THAT FOR ANY
  • 00:26:45.015 --> 00:26:49.153
  • ARTIST OR ANYBODY THERE'SSOMETHING, THERE'S
  • 00:26:49.253 --> 00:26:53.390
  • SOMETHING UNIQUELYHEALING AND RESTORATIVE
  • 00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:57.695
  • ABOUT CREATING, AND ITDOESN'T HAVE TO BE MUSIC
  • 00:26:57.795 --> 00:27:01.665
  • OR PAINTINGS.
  • 00:27:01.765 --> 00:27:03.233
  • IT COULD BEBUILDING A SHELF.
  • 00:27:03.333 --> 00:27:05.269
  • IT'S JUST THE EXPRESSIONCOMING OUT OF US
  • 00:27:05.369 --> 00:27:08.372
  • ESPECIALLY IN A TIMEPERIOD WHERE WE'RE
  • 00:27:08.472 --> 00:27:10.240
  • STRUGGLING TO FIND AHEALTHY NARRATIVE WITH
  • 00:27:10.340 --> 00:27:13.310
  • EVERYTHING GOING ONAROUND US, AND A LOT OF
  • 00:27:13.410 --> 00:27:15.479
  • TIMES ART GIVES US ANOPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
  • 00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:17.915
  • OURSELVES OR TOAPPRECIATE EXPRESSION OF
  • 00:27:18.015 --> 00:27:21.618
  • A NARRATIVE THAT HELPSSOME THINGS MAKE SENSE.
  • 00:27:21.719 --> 00:27:25.622
  • - YEAH. AND FOR YOU, I MEANCREATION I'M SURE TAKES A
  • 00:27:25.723 --> 00:27:29.493
  • LOT OF FORMS, BUT WE KNOWYOU LOVE TO CREATE MUSIC,
  • 00:27:29.593 --> 00:27:32.062
  • AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKINGON AN ALBUM CALLED
  • 00:27:32.162 --> 00:27:33.931
  • RESTORATION. I LOVE THATWORD BY THE WAY.
  • 00:27:34.031 --> 00:27:35.933
  • WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOTIN OUR CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:27:36.033 --> 00:27:38.302
  • AT Q AND WITH YOU.TALK ABOUT THAT ALBUM.
  • 00:27:38.402 --> 00:27:41.071
  • TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VEBEEN CREATING LATELY,
  • 00:27:41.171 --> 00:27:43.040
  • KIND OF THE STORY THATYOU'RE TELLING THROUGH THAT.
  • 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:46.143
  • AND I'D LOVE TO KNOWWHETHER NOW THAT THIS
  • 00:27:46.243 --> 00:27:48.612
  • CORONAVIRUS THING HAS HITAND THINGS HAVE CHANGED,
  • 00:27:48.712 --> 00:27:50.881
  • ARE YOU SEEING SOMETHINGPROVIDENTIAL HAPPEN WITH
  • 00:27:50.981 --> 00:27:53.283
  • WHAT YOU WERE WRITING ANDWHERE THAT WAS GOING?
  • 00:27:53.383 --> 00:27:56.353
  • - EXTREMELYPROVIDENTIAL, IT'S CRAZY.
  • 00:27:56.453 --> 00:27:59.223
  • AS YOU SAID, THE ALBUMIS ENTITLED RESTORATION
  • 00:27:59.323 --> 00:28:02.893
  • BECAUSE I WANTED TOEXPRESS WHAT IT'S LIKE
  • 00:28:02.993 --> 00:28:06.530
  • FOR BROKEN THINGS TO BERESTORED AND TO BE FIXED,
  • 00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:09.867
  • ESPECIALLY THINGSTHAT PEOPLE HAVE NO
  • 00:28:09.967 --> 00:28:12.536
  • EXPECTATION FOR, SOWHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING
  • 00:28:12.636 --> 00:28:17.040
  • LIKE A DIVORCE, OR ANINCARCERATION, OR AN
  • 00:28:17.141 --> 00:28:21.044
  • ILLNESS THAT YOU JUSTHAVE NO PICTURE OF THE
  • 00:28:21.145 --> 00:28:24.848
  • FUTURE WITH THISPARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE,
  • 00:28:24.948 --> 00:28:27.084
  • AND YET WE'VE SEEN TIMEAND TIME AGAIN THAT THAT
  • 00:28:27.184 --> 00:28:30.287
  • DOESN'T HAVETO BE THE CASE.
  • 00:28:30.387 --> 00:28:32.422
  • AND SO I WAS DEEPLYINSPIRED AND MOVED BY
  • 00:28:32.523 --> 00:28:34.892
  • VISITING SOMEBODY INSAN QUENTIN PENITENTIARY
  • 00:28:34.992 --> 00:28:38.195
  • AND THEY DIDN'T QUIT.
  • 00:28:38.295 --> 00:28:40.964
  • THEY TOOK FINANCIALLITERACY CLASSES, THEY
  • 00:28:41.064 --> 00:28:43.033
  • TOOK WRITING CLASSES,THEY NOW HOST THE ONLY
  • 00:28:43.133 --> 00:28:45.602
  • PODCAST GIVEN FROM INSIDEOF A PRISON FACILITY.
  • 00:28:45.702 --> 00:28:48.739
  • SO I WANTED TO MAKE ARTTHAT REFLECTS THAT IDEA
  • 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.576
  • THAT RESTORATION ISPOSSIBLE AND THAT WE
  • 00:28:52.676 --> 00:28:55.279
  • DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE INTHE LIE ULTIMATELY THAT
  • 00:28:55.379 --> 00:28:59.116
  • ALL IS LOST AND THATWE'RE IN A STATE OF
  • 00:28:59.216 --> 00:29:01.952
  • HOPELESSNESS, WHICH WE'RENOT IN EVEN IN THIS VERY
  • 00:29:02.052 --> 00:29:04.621
  • MOMENT. ALL IS NOT LOST, ANDWE'RE NOT IN A STATE OF
  • 00:29:04.721 --> 00:29:06.924
  • HOPELESSNESS, AND THAT'SA WHOLE OTHER STORY IN
  • 00:29:07.024 --> 00:29:09.760
  • AND OF ITSELF, BUT I BELIEVERESTORATION IS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:29:09.860 --> 00:29:12.563
  • - YEAH, SO IN THISSEASON AS YOU'VE HAD A
  • 00:29:12.663 --> 00:29:14.665
  • LITTLE MORE TIME AT HOME,AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:29:14.765 --> 00:29:16.400
  • WEARING A LOT OF HATS.
  • 00:29:16.500 --> 00:29:17.701
  • YOU DESCRIBE SOME OFTHOSE, BUT AS YOU THINK
  • 00:29:17.801 --> 00:29:20.337
  • ABOUT THIS SEASON AND YOUTHINK ABOUT THE BIGGER
  • 00:29:20.437 --> 00:29:22.573
  • PICTURE OF GOD AND WHATHE DOES IN THE WORLD, AND
  • 00:29:22.673 --> 00:29:25.375
  • IN A MOMENT LIKE THISJUST REMINDS US THAT
  • 00:29:25.475 --> 00:29:27.411
  • ALL THE TRAJECTORY,STRATEGIES, PLANS,
  • 00:29:27.511 --> 00:29:29.546
  • EVERYTHING WE'VE BEENWORKING ON CAN ALL COME
  • 00:29:29.646 --> 00:29:32.149
  • TO A HALT SO MUCH QUICKERTHAN I DON'T KNOW THAT
  • 00:29:32.249 --> 00:29:34.718
  • OUR GENERATION COULDHAVE EVER IMAGINED.
  • 00:29:34.818 --> 00:29:37.421
  • WHAT HAS BEEN YOURPERSPECTIVE ON KIND OF
  • 00:29:37.521 --> 00:29:38.989
  • SITTING WITH THAT,SITTING WITH THE
  • 00:29:39.089 --> 00:29:40.490
  • BIGNESS OF GOD, THEBIGNESS OF A MOMENT
  • 00:29:40.591 --> 00:29:42.125
  • WHERE EVERYBODY'S STOPPED.
  • 00:29:42.226 --> 00:29:44.561
  • - YEAH, I THINK THERE'SSOMETHING TO THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:29:44.661 --> 00:29:48.232
  • I THINK THAT IN MANYCASES, YOU SEE A PARENT
  • 00:29:48.332 --> 00:29:55.706
  • HALTING SOMETHING FROMA CHILD IN ORDER TO GET
  • 00:29:55.806 --> 00:30:00.777
  • THAT CHILD'S ATTENTION, INORDER TO DRAW THEM NEARER.
  • 00:30:00.878 --> 00:30:03.881
  • I REMEMBER GOING TO THEMOVIES AS A TEENAGER AND
  • 00:30:03.981 --> 00:30:07.618
  • TAKING GIRLS TO SCARYMOVIES SO I CAN CAUSE
  • 00:30:07.718 --> 00:30:10.487
  • SOME DISTRESS IN ORDERTO DRAW NEARER,
  • 00:30:10.587 --> 00:30:13.590
  • GET THEM TO DRAW NEAR.
  • 00:30:13.690 --> 00:30:15.192
  • AND I THINK A LOT OFTIMES DISTRESS CAUSES US
  • 00:30:15.292 --> 00:30:17.127
  • TO DRAW NEAR, AND SO FORME I DON'T WANT TO BE
  • 00:30:17.227 --> 00:30:20.797
  • CAUGHT TRYING TO BEOVERLY PRODUCTIVE
  • 00:30:20.898 --> 00:30:23.233
  • OR OVERLY FEARFUL.
  • 00:30:23.333 --> 00:30:24.601
  • I WANT TO BE CAUGHTSURRENDERING AND DRAWING
  • 00:30:24.701 --> 00:30:26.637
  • NEARER TO GOD IN THEMIDST OF DISTRESS, IN THE
  • 00:30:26.737 --> 00:30:29.106
  • MIDST OF A TRYING TIME.
  • 00:30:29.206 --> 00:30:30.874
  • I THINK ABOUT JEREMIAH29:11 WHERE GOD SAYS I
  • 00:30:30.974 --> 00:30:35.812
  • KNOW THE PLANS I HAVE FORYOU, THESE ARE AMAZING
  • 00:30:35.913 --> 00:30:37.481
  • PLANS, BUT ALL THAT WASIN THE MIDST OF DISTRESS.
  • 00:30:37.581 --> 00:30:40.717
  • THIS IS A GREAT PROMISEIN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:30:40.817 --> 00:30:42.586
  • A HUMONGOUS PROBLEM.
  • 00:30:42.686 --> 00:30:44.187
  • THEY WERE IN CAPTIVITY,THEY WERE CAUGHT, AND THE
  • 00:30:44.288 --> 00:30:47.057
  • CHALLENGE TO THEM WASTO CONTINUE LIVING,
  • 00:30:47.157 --> 00:30:49.993
  • TO BUILD HOUSES, TO STARTFAMILIES, AND I THINK FOR
  • 00:30:50.093 --> 00:30:52.930
  • US THE CALL FOR US IS TOCONTINUE LIVING, IT'S TO
  • 00:30:53.030 --> 00:30:56.733
  • SAY OKAY, I CAN'T CHANGETHE CIRCUMSTANCE
  • 00:30:56.833 --> 00:30:59.736
  • BUT I CAN BE CHANGEDIN THE MIDST OF IT.
  • 00:30:59.836 --> 00:31:01.872
  • I CAN'T RUN AWAY FROMTHIS, BUT I CAN WALK
  • 00:31:01.972 --> 00:31:03.840
  • THROUGH THIS WITH THEPEOPLE AROUND ME.
  • 00:31:03.941 --> 00:31:06.576
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHATI'M CALLED TO DO
  • 00:31:06.677 --> 00:31:08.712
  • IN THIS TIME PERIOD.
  • 00:31:08.812 --> 00:31:10.414
  • - WELL, YOU WROTE AGREAT BOOK IN 2016 THAT
  • 00:31:10.514 --> 00:31:12.416
  • WAS A NEW YORK TIMES'BEST SELLER CALLED
  • 00:31:12.516 --> 00:31:14.051
  • "UNASHAMED", AND I KNOWONE OF THE THEMES COMING
  • 00:31:14.151 --> 00:31:16.453
  • OUT OF THIS COUPLE OFDAYS FROM A LOT OF LEADERS
  • 00:31:16.553 --> 00:31:18.355
  • IS THIS IS THE MOMENTTO BE UNASHAMED
  • 00:31:18.455 --> 00:31:20.257
  • TO PROCLAIM OUR FAITH.
  • 00:31:20.357 --> 00:31:22.359
  • YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT SOFAITHFULLY IN YOUR ART.
  • 00:31:22.459 --> 00:31:24.962
  • YOU'VE CONSISTENTLY SHIEDAWAY FROM WASHING IT DOWN
  • 00:31:25.062 --> 00:31:29.132
  • TO JUST SAYING LOOK, I'MJUST GONNA BE BOLD ABOUT
  • 00:31:29.232 --> 00:31:30.934
  • WHO I AM AND I REALIZENOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH
  • 00:31:31.034 --> 00:31:33.337
  • ME, BUT I'M NOT GONNABE ASHAMED OF IT.
  • 00:31:33.437 --> 00:31:36.073
  • CAN YOU ENCOURAGEUS A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:31:36.173 --> 00:31:37.574
  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BEUNASHAMED, ESPECIALLY
  • 00:31:37.674 --> 00:31:39.576
  • IN THIS COMING SEASON?
  • 00:31:39.676 --> 00:31:42.045
  • - YES, IT'S FUNNY, I WASJUST WITH MY KIDS LAST
  • 00:31:42.145 --> 00:31:45.082
  • NIGHT, AND WE WERE JUSTREADING THROUGH SOME
  • 00:31:45.182 --> 00:31:48.785
  • DEVOTIONAL MATERIAL ANDJUST TALKING ABOUT HOW IF
  • 00:31:48.885 --> 00:31:53.156
  • THERE WAS EVER A TIMETO NOT BE ASHAMED, IT'S
  • 00:31:53.256 --> 00:31:56.426
  • DURING TIMES OF TRIAL ANDTRIBULATION WHEN PEOPLE
  • 00:31:56.526 --> 00:31:59.096
  • ARE LOOKING, LITERALLYLOOKING AND SEARCHING FOR
  • 00:31:59.196 --> 00:32:02.232
  • ANSWERS, SEARCHING FORVALIDITY AND PURPOSE AND
  • 00:32:02.332 --> 00:32:06.136
  • HOPE IN CIRCUMSTANCESSUCH AS WE'RE IN RIGHT
  • 00:32:06.236 --> 00:32:08.705
  • NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE'SSENSE OF WORTH AND
  • 00:32:08.805 --> 00:32:11.208
  • IDENTITY GETSSTRIPPED AWAY.
  • 00:32:11.308 --> 00:32:12.876
  • THEIR JOBS OR THEIRFAMILY MEMBERS THAT
  • 00:32:12.976 --> 00:32:15.579
  • THEY'RE CLOSE TO, ALLTHOSE THINGS BECOME
  • 00:32:15.679 --> 00:32:17.547
  • DISTRESSED, AND THEYLITERALLY DON'T KNOW WHO
  • 00:32:17.647 --> 00:32:20.017
  • THEY ARE OR WHERE THEYCAN TURN FOR HOPE.
  • 00:32:20.117 --> 00:32:21.852
  • I FEEL AS A FOLLOWER OFGOD, I HAVE HOPE, I HAVE
  • 00:32:21.952 --> 00:32:26.223
  • AN ANSWER FOR THEHOPELESSNESS AND THE
  • 00:32:26.323 --> 00:32:30.293
  • WORTHLESSNESS THAT CANBECOME SO PREVALENT.
  • 00:32:30.394 --> 00:32:33.063
  • SO WHAT I WOULD TELLANYBODY OUT THERE IS THAT
  • 00:32:33.163 --> 00:32:36.166
  • DON'T ACT AS IF YOU'RENOT GOING THROUGH THE
  • 00:32:36.266 --> 00:32:39.569
  • STRUGGLES THAT YOU'REGOING THROUGH.
  • 00:32:39.669 --> 00:32:41.838
  • ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE STRUGGLES,
  • 00:32:41.938 --> 00:32:43.507
  • BUT WORRY IS WHEN THESTRUGGLE HAS YOU.
  • 00:32:43.607 --> 00:32:46.376
  • CONCERN IS WHEN YOUHAVE THE STRUGGLE.
  • 00:32:46.476 --> 00:32:48.645
  • AND WE HAVE THE STRUGGLESO WE'RE CONCERNED, AND
  • 00:32:48.745 --> 00:32:50.814
  • IN THAT CONCERN WE OFFERHOPE, WE OFFER GUIDANCE.
  • 00:32:50.914 --> 00:32:54.551
  • SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULDSAY TO EVERYONE OUT THERE.
  • 00:32:54.651 --> 00:32:56.953
  • - YEAH, I'VE HEARD TIMKELLER TALK ABOUT WORRY,
  • 00:32:57.054 --> 00:32:59.322
  • AND HIS IDEA OF WORRY ISIF YOU'RE WORRIED, IT
  • 00:32:59.423 --> 00:33:01.658
  • MEANS YOU THOUGHT YOUWERE IN CONTROL AND YOU
  • 00:33:01.758 --> 00:33:03.427
  • DON'T TRUST THAT WHATGOD'S UP TO IS ACTUALLY
  • 00:33:03.527 --> 00:33:06.096
  • GOOD ENOUGH, LIKE YOUKNOW BETTER, SO WE NEED
  • 00:33:06.196 --> 00:33:08.231
  • TO BE IN THIS POSTUREOF NOT WORRYING.
  • 00:33:08.331 --> 00:33:10.434
  • ONE FINAL QUESTION,LECRAE, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:33:10.534 --> 00:33:13.203
  • IN THIS INDUSTRY OF ARTAND MUSIC, AND YOU'VE WON
  • 00:33:13.303 --> 00:33:17.607
  • A LOT OF GRAMMIES ANDBEEN A CELEBRATED ARTIST,
  • 00:33:17.707 --> 00:33:20.210
  • BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THATWORLD OF ART, YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:33:20.310 --> 00:33:21.912
  • WHAT'S BEING CREATED,THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:33:22.012 --> 00:33:24.581
  • DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CANARTISTS BE IN THIS SPACE?
  • 00:33:24.681 --> 00:33:28.418
  • AND WHAT GOOD IS THERE TOBE DONE IN THIS SPACE?
  • 00:33:28.518 --> 00:33:31.188
  • AND CAN HIP-HOP MUSICREALLY BE REDEMPTIVE?
  • 00:33:31.288 --> 00:33:33.590
  • I THINK YOU'VE PROVENTHAT, BUT FOR THOSE WHO
  • 00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:35.292
  • HAVEN'T MET YOU BEFORE,THEY HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD
  • 00:33:35.392 --> 00:33:37.327
  • YOUR PERSPECTIVE, JUSTSHARE WITH US A LITTLE
  • 00:33:37.427 --> 00:33:38.962
  • BIT ABOUT YOUR HOPES ASYOU THINK ABOUT ART IN
  • 00:33:39.062 --> 00:33:41.331
  • THE WORLD GOING FORWARDIN THE 2020 YEAR, WHAT
  • 00:33:41.431 --> 00:33:44.067
  • COULD COME OUT OF THIS?
  • 00:33:44.167 --> 00:33:45.836
  • HOW CAN IT BE FURTHER USEDFOR THE GLORY OF GOD?
  • 00:33:45.936 --> 00:33:49.606
  • - YEAH, I THINK ON ONEEND OF THE SPECTRUM WE
  • 00:33:49.706 --> 00:33:52.676
  • LOOK AT ONE OF THE MOSTPHENOMENAL POETS IN
  • 00:33:52.776 --> 00:33:56.613
  • HISTORY AND THAT'S KINGDAVID, AND HE DID A LOT
  • 00:33:56.713 --> 00:33:59.883
  • OF LAMENTING THROUGH ART,AND I THINK BECAUSE OF
  • 00:33:59.983 --> 00:34:03.854
  • THAT LAMENTING, IT GIVESUS A VOICE, ALMOST A
  • 00:34:03.954 --> 00:34:07.924
  • TRAJECTORY OR A GUIDELINETHAT WE CAN FOLLOW
  • 00:34:08.024 --> 00:34:11.128
  • IN A TIME OF HURT ANDA TIME OF PAIN.
  • 00:34:11.228 --> 00:34:14.064
  • AND WE CAN SEE THAT HE WASCONSTANTLY TALKING TO GOD.
  • 00:34:14.164 --> 00:34:16.733
  • EVEN THOUGH HE WAS SAD,HE WAS TALKING TO GOD.
  • 00:34:16.833 --> 00:34:18.368
  • SO IT'S ONE THING TOSAY I'M SAD AND I'M
  • 00:34:18.468 --> 00:34:22.372
  • FRUSTRATED AND I'M NOTTALKING TO GOD ABOUT IT
  • 00:34:22.472 --> 00:34:26.376
  • BECAUSE I'M LIVING, I'MFOLDING UP WITHIN MYSELF.
  • 00:34:26.476 --> 00:34:30.147
  • IT'S ANOTHER THING TO SAYI'M SAD AND FRUSTRATED
  • 00:34:30.247 --> 00:34:31.581
  • AND I'M TALKING TOGOD ABOUT IT, I'M
  • 00:34:31.681 --> 00:34:33.316
  • COMPLAINING, I'MFRUSTRATED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:34:33.416 --> 00:34:35.152
  • AND I THINK THAT ARTGIVES US A CHANCE TO
  • 00:34:35.252 --> 00:34:36.820
  • LAMENT, BUT ART ALSOGIVES US A CHANCE TO TALK
  • 00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:41.024
  • ABOUT SCARS THAT HAVEHEALED, BECAUSE MY SCARS
  • 00:34:41.124 --> 00:34:44.528
  • SHOW A WOUNDED WORLD THATHEALING IS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:34:44.628 --> 00:34:47.731
  • SO ART GIVES US ANOPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY
  • 00:34:47.831 --> 00:34:49.933
  • VULNERABLE WITH OUR SCARSTHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING.
  • 00:34:50.033 --> 00:34:52.335
  • AND THEN LASTLY I THINKART ALLOWS US TO POINT
  • 00:34:52.435 --> 00:34:55.906
  • TOWARD A HOPE, YOU KNOW,BOTH PHYSICAL, LITERAL
  • 00:34:56.006 --> 00:35:00.343
  • EARTHLY HOPE ANDTHEN AN ETERNAL HOPE.
  • 00:35:00.443 --> 00:35:03.046
  • WE CAN PAINT PICTURES OFWHAT LIFE WILL LOOK LIKE
  • 00:35:03.146 --> 00:35:05.115
  • AFTER THIS AND PAINTPICTURES OF WHAT LIFE
  • 00:35:05.215 --> 00:35:07.217
  • WILL LOOK LIKEULTIMATELY, AND I THINK
  • 00:35:07.317 --> 00:35:10.320
  • REGARDLESS OF THE GENRE,WHETHER IT'S HIP-HOP,
  • 00:35:10.420 --> 00:35:12.422
  • POP, ROCK, COUNTRY,WORSHIP, WHATEVER YOU
  • 00:35:12.522 --> 00:35:14.658
  • WANT TO CALL IT, WE AREALL MADE BY AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:35:14.758 --> 00:35:19.529
  • CREATOR WHO'S GIVEN USTHESE UNIQUE GIFTS AND
  • 00:35:19.629 --> 00:35:22.265
  • THEY'RE ALL REDEMPTIVE,THEY'RE ALL HIS.
  • 00:35:22.365 --> 00:35:24.000
  • THE EARTH IS THE LORD'SAND EVERYTHING THEREOF.
  • 00:35:24.100 --> 00:35:26.303
  • - MAN, THAT'S GOOD.GOOD REMINDER,
  • 00:35:26.403 --> 00:35:28.071
  • AND I JUST SO APPRECIATEYOU BEING WITH US.
  • 00:35:28.171 --> 00:35:30.073
  • ONE FINAL QUESTION: AREYOU WEARING A HAT TODAY
  • 00:35:30.173 --> 00:35:31.675
  • BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T BEENABLE TO GET A HAIRCUT?
  • 00:35:31.775 --> 00:35:34.044
  • - ABSOLUTELY! ABSOLUTELY!
  • 00:35:34.144 --> 00:35:37.414
  • - I LOVE IT. YOU LOOK GOOD,MAN. YOU LOOK GOOD.
  • 00:35:37.514 --> 00:35:39.216
  • - MY WIFE'S MY NEW BARBERAND SHE'S STILL WORKING
  • 00:35:39.316 --> 00:35:41.585
  • ON HER SKILL SET HERE.
  • 00:35:41.685 --> 00:35:43.386
  • - WELL, YOU KEEPWORKING ON IT.
  • 00:35:43.486 --> 00:35:45.021
  • YOU LOOK GOOD.GOOD TO SEE YOU.
  • 00:35:45.121 --> 00:35:46.690
  • THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.
  • 00:35:46.790 --> 00:35:48.425
  • - IN DARK WATERS UNDERA DARK SKY, THE LYRIC OF
  • 00:35:48.525 --> 00:35:51.194
  • LAMENT IS THE SONGOF THE STRONG.
  • 00:35:51.294 --> 00:35:53.296
  • LAMENT GIVES US THESTRENGTH TO NOT GIVE UP
  • 00:35:53.396 --> 00:35:55.632
  • BUT TO GIVE OVER.
  • 00:35:55.732 --> 00:35:57.567
  • - SO OUR CURRENTPANDEMIC MAY INDEED LEAD
  • 00:35:57.667 --> 00:35:59.970
  • TO MASSIVE AFFECTS LONGAFTER THE PANDEMIC ITSELF
  • 00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:02.939
  • IS ADDRESSED, AND WILLTAKE US A LONG TIME
  • 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.242
  • TO RECOVER FROM.
  • 00:36:05.342 --> 00:36:07.444
  • - LET'S WELCOME ANN VOSKAMP.
  • 00:36:08.878 --> 00:36:11.481
  • - WHEN NO ONE EVER TOLDME THAT GRIEF FELT SO
  • 00:36:13.717 --> 00:36:16.753
  • MUCH LIKE FEAR IS WHATC.S. LEWIS SAID.
  • 00:36:16.853 --> 00:36:20.991
  • AND WHO COULD HAVE TOLDUS A YEAR AGO THAT WE'D
  • 00:36:21.091 --> 00:36:24.160
  • NOW ALL BE LIVING THROUGHA ONCE IN A LIFETIME
  • 00:36:24.261 --> 00:36:26.896
  • STORM OF HISTORICPROPORTIONS,
  • 00:36:26.997 --> 00:36:30.634
  • AND WHAT YOU FEEL IN YOURBONES RIGHT NOW IS THE
  • 00:36:30.734 --> 00:36:34.337
  • EXHAUSTION OF GRIEF ANDFEAR AND THE UNKNOWN.
  • 00:36:34.437 --> 00:36:38.074
  • LIFE IS WAVES AND THERE'SNO CONTROLLING THESE WAVES.
  • 00:36:38.174 --> 00:36:42.879
  • GRIEF COMES IN WAVES,SUFFERING COMES IN WAVES,
  • 00:36:42.979 --> 00:36:46.483
  • AND IN THE MIDST OF THISALL WE'RE CLINGING TO THE
  • 00:36:46.583 --> 00:36:49.686
  • SIDES OF OUR BATTEREDBOAT WITH PERSONAL AND
  • 00:36:49.786 --> 00:36:52.155
  • SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC WRECKAGEFLOATING ALL AROUND US.
  • 00:36:52.255 --> 00:36:55.792
  • AND OUR CALENDARS AREHAUNTING REMINDERS OF THE
  • 00:36:55.892 --> 00:36:58.261
  • LIFE THAT WAS BECAUSEWHATEVER NEXT WEEK, NEXT
  • 00:36:58.361 --> 00:37:02.332
  • MONTH, NEXT YEAR HOLDS,THERE ARE PEOPLE WE KNOW
  • 00:37:02.432 --> 00:37:06.102
  • WHO ARE NOT GOINGBACK TO WORK.
  • 00:37:06.202 --> 00:37:08.371
  • THERE ARE DREAMS THAT WEAND THE PEOPLE WE LOVE
  • 00:37:08.471 --> 00:37:10.907
  • HAVE SACRIFICED FOR THATARE NOW ASHES IN THE WIND.
  • 00:37:11.007 --> 00:37:14.711
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WE KNOWWHO ARE GOING TO WAKE UP
  • 00:37:14.811 --> 00:37:16.479
  • ONE MORNING WITH A SLIGHTFEVER AND A BARELY COUGH
  • 00:37:16.579 --> 00:37:19.382
  • WHO END UP IN ICUTERRIFIED AND DYING ALONE.
  • 00:37:19.482 --> 00:37:25.255
  • HOWEVER THE NEXT FEWYEARS UNFOLD, THERE IS
  • 00:37:25.355 --> 00:37:27.557
  • GOING TO BE SUFFERINGTHAT ENFOLDS US ALL.
  • 00:37:27.657 --> 00:37:31.194
  • THERE IS NO CONTROLLINGLIFE'S STORMS.
  • 00:37:31.294 --> 00:37:32.962
  • THERE IS ONLY LEARNINGTO LIVE WITH WAVES.
  • 00:37:33.063 --> 00:37:36.599
  • BECAUSE THE REALITY OFTHE TRAJECTORY OF HUMAN
  • 00:37:36.700 --> 00:37:38.935
  • LIFE ISN'T A STRAIGHTLINE OF ASCENT FROM
  • 00:37:39.035 --> 00:37:41.004
  • STRENGTH TO STRENGTHCLIMBING HIGHER AND
  • 00:37:41.104 --> 00:37:42.672
  • HIGHER, BUT IT'S MORELIKE A REPEATING "W", A
  • 00:37:42.772 --> 00:37:45.475
  • DYING AND RISING, A DYINGAND RISING OVER AND OVER
  • 00:37:45.575 --> 00:37:49.079
  • AGAIN. PEAKS AND THECRESTING AND THE DEPTHS
  • 00:37:49.179 --> 00:37:52.349
  • AND VALLEYS OFFALLING INTO WAVES.
  • 00:37:52.449 --> 00:37:55.618
  • THE REAL WORK OF BEINGHUMAN IS MASTERING HOW TO
  • 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.855
  • PROCESS WHILE BEING IN THEPROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD.
  • 00:37:58.955 --> 00:38:03.693
  • THESE LOSSES ARE A GIVEN,BUT WHAT YOU DO WITH
  • 00:38:03.793 --> 00:38:06.963
  • WHAT'S STILL BEEN GIVENIS WHAT WILL TAKE YOU
  • 00:38:07.063 --> 00:38:09.432
  • WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
  • 00:38:09.532 --> 00:38:11.534
  • TRUE, LOSS IS A FOURLETTER WORD, BUT IT'S A
  • 00:38:11.634 --> 00:38:14.738
  • WORD THAT YOU DON'T READTO UNDERSTAND BUT RATHER
  • 00:38:14.838 --> 00:38:17.040
  • ONE YOU FEEL AND FIGUREOUT HOW TO KEEP STANDING.
  • 00:38:17.140 --> 00:38:21.611
  • NEVER PUT YOUR FAITHIN THE TIMELINE OF THE
  • 00:38:21.711 --> 00:38:24.247
  • STORY, BUT NEVER LOSE FAITHIN THE END OF THE STORY.
  • 00:38:24.347 --> 00:38:28.818
  • IT'S THE REALISTS WHOTHRIVE BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:38:28.918 --> 00:38:31.020
  • ACCEPT THE REALITY OF ACLOSE GOD RIDING A
  • 00:38:31.121 --> 00:38:34.724
  • LONG TIMELINE WRITINGA GOOD STORY.
  • 00:38:34.824 --> 00:38:37.961
  • YOU CAN TRUSTEVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE
  • 00:38:38.061 --> 00:38:39.796
  • OKAY BECAUSE THE WORDHIMSELF WALKS INTO OUR
  • 00:38:39.896 --> 00:38:41.898
  • STORY AND WALKS WITH USIN WAVES UNTIL ALL ENDS
  • 00:38:41.998 --> 00:38:45.201
  • IN HIS TIME, IN HIS WAYS,HIS ULTIMATE GOOD, OUR
  • 00:38:45.301 --> 00:38:48.738
  • ULTIMATE GOOD AND EVERYTHING'SGOING TO BE OKAY.
  • 00:38:48.838 --> 00:38:52.909
  • AND EVERYTHING'SNOT OKAY YET.
  • 00:38:53.009 --> 00:38:55.945
  • EVERYTHING'SNOT OVER YET.
  • 00:38:56.045 --> 00:38:59.682
  • IN THE HARDEST STORMS, THERE'SA WAY TO BE RESILIENT.
  • 00:38:59.783 --> 00:39:03.586
  • IT IS TO LAMENT AND TOREPENT AND REORIENT.
  • 00:39:03.686 --> 00:39:09.893
  • SO HOW DO WE LEAD OURPEOPLE TO BE THAT KIND OF
  • 00:39:09.993 --> 00:39:12.796
  • RESILIENT, TOCOLLECTIVELY LAMENT,
  • 00:39:12.896 --> 00:39:14.531
  • COLLECTIVELY REPENT,COLLECTIVELY REORIENT?
  • 00:39:14.631 --> 00:39:18.768
  • THERE IS ONLY ONE EMOTIONTHAT BECOMES A TITLE
  • 00:39:18.868 --> 00:39:22.439
  • OF A BOOK IN THE BIBLE:LAMENTATIONS.
  • 00:39:22.539 --> 00:39:25.875
  • LAMENTATION IS THEEMOTION THAT BRINGS
  • 00:39:25.975 --> 00:39:28.178
  • MOTION TO OUR PAIN, MOVESTHE STRESS THROUGH OUR
  • 00:39:28.278 --> 00:39:31.314
  • SOULS AND MOVESUS TOWARD GOD.
  • 00:39:31.414 --> 00:39:34.818
  • IN THE MIDST OF LIFE'SWAVES, WE HAVE GOT TO FIND
  • 00:39:34.918 --> 00:39:37.353
  • WAYS TO MAKE SPACE TOLAMENT, TO NAME THE
  • 00:39:37.454 --> 00:39:41.191
  • GRIEFS, NAME THE MISSING,NAME THE SADNESS, THE
  • 00:39:41.291 --> 00:39:44.360
  • STRESS, NAME THEINJUSTICES, NAME THE
  • 00:39:44.461 --> 00:39:47.931
  • SUFFERING AND THEHEARTACHE AND CALL ON THE
  • 00:39:48.031 --> 00:39:49.933
  • NAME OF THE LORD SO WECAN HEAR HIM SPEAK OUR
  • 00:39:50.033 --> 00:39:53.970
  • TRUEST NAME, BELOVED.
  • 00:39:54.070 --> 00:39:57.106
  • IF WE DON'T COLLECTIVELYTAKE TIME TO NAME OUR
  • 00:39:57.207 --> 00:39:59.275
  • GRIEFS AND LOSSES, WEWILL KNOW THE GRIEF
  • 00:39:59.375 --> 00:40:01.644
  • REMAININGNAMELESS AND LOST.
  • 00:40:01.744 --> 00:40:04.881
  • WAVES CAN ROCK OUR BOAT,BUT THE REFRAMING OF JUST
  • 00:40:04.981 --> 00:40:08.017
  • THESE FOUR LINES CANBRING US HOME THROUGH ANY
  • 00:40:08.117 --> 00:40:11.321
  • STORM. GOD, HERE IS OURTEARS. TOUCH OUR PAIN.
  • 00:40:11.421 --> 00:40:16.726
  • SO HERE IS OUR TRUST,AND HERE IS OUR THANKS.
  • 00:40:16.826 --> 00:40:21.130
  • TO HURT IS HUMAN, BUTTO LAMENT IS HEALING.
  • 00:40:21.231 --> 00:40:24.300
  • WHEN LAMENT IS CLOSEENOUGH TO THE BEAT OF
  • 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.536
  • GOD'S HEART, IT CAN'T HELPBUT ENDING IN THANKSGIVING.
  • 00:40:26.636 --> 00:40:30.039
  • IN DARK WATERS UNDER ADARK SKY, THE LYRIC OF
  • 00:40:30.139 --> 00:40:32.909
  • LAMENT IS THE SONGOF THE STRONG.
  • 00:40:33.009 --> 00:40:34.978
  • LAMENT GIVES US THESTRENGTH TO NOT GIVE UP
  • 00:40:35.078 --> 00:40:37.347
  • BUT TO GIVE OVER BECAUSETHEN WE'RE GIVEN THE
  • 00:40:37.447 --> 00:40:40.083
  • STRENGTH TO OVERCOME.
  • 00:40:40.183 --> 00:40:42.919
  • IF WE DON'T TAKE TIMETO LEAD OUR PEOPLE IN
  • 00:40:43.019 --> 00:40:45.321
  • COLLECTIVE LAMENT, TOXICGRIEF WILL BEGIN TO FERMENT.
  • 00:40:45.421 --> 00:40:49.859
  • WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TOSUFFER WELL TOGETHER
  • 00:40:49.959 --> 00:40:52.662
  • BECAUSE IT BRINGS USINTO A ONENESS TOGETHER.
  • 00:40:52.762 --> 00:40:55.698
  • BUT THE TRUTH IS RIGHTNOW, THOUGH WE ARE ALL IN
  • 00:40:55.798 --> 00:41:00.303
  • THE SAME STORM, WE AREALL NOT IN THE SAME BOAT.
  • 00:41:00.403 --> 00:41:05.141
  • THOUGH WE ARE ALL FACINGTHE SAME DEVASTATING
  • 00:41:05.241 --> 00:41:07.343
  • TEMPEST OF THIS VIRUS,SOME OF US ARE WEATHERING
  • 00:41:07.443 --> 00:41:10.213
  • THESE WAVES IN BOATS WITHCABINS, AND THERE ARE
  • 00:41:10.313 --> 00:41:14.250
  • SOME OF US WEATHERING THESLAMMING SWELLS CLINGING
  • 00:41:14.350 --> 00:41:16.085
  • TO A FLOATINGPIECE OF DRIFTWOOD.
  • 00:41:16.185 --> 00:41:18.621
  • AND SOME OF US ARE INBOATS WITH A SIX MONTH
  • 00:41:18.721 --> 00:41:21.224
  • STOCKPILE OF SUPPLIES.
  • 00:41:21.324 --> 00:41:23.426
  • AND SOME OF US AREFLAILING DOWN SALT WATER
  • 00:41:23.526 --> 00:41:26.729
  • WITH A TIN OF TUNA IN OURPOCKET AND WE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:41:26.829 --> 00:41:29.198
  • HOW TO KEEP OURHEAD ABOVE WATER.
  • 00:41:29.299 --> 00:41:31.668
  • WE ARE ALL IN THE SAMESTORM, BUT WE ARE NOT ALL
  • 00:41:31.768 --> 00:41:35.505
  • IN THE SAME BOAT, WHICHIS WHY FOR SUCH A TIME AS
  • 00:41:35.605 --> 00:41:39.242
  • NOW GOD IS CALLING US TOGET OUT OF OUR BOATS.
  • 00:41:39.342 --> 00:41:43.846
  • MAY WE CLOSE IN A PRAYERTHAT LAMENTS, THAT REPENTS,
  • 00:41:43.947 --> 00:41:46.916
  • THAT REORIENTS TOHIM AS OUR LIGHT.
  • 00:41:47.016 --> 00:41:50.954
  • DEAR LORD, IN THIS MOMENTOF PANDEMIC, WE LAMENT AT
  • 00:41:51.054 --> 00:41:56.059
  • WHAT STEALS LAST BREATHFROM LUNGS AND FROM DREAMS.
  • 00:41:56.159 --> 00:42:00.730
  • WE MAY WEAR MASKS, BUTHEAR OUR UNMASKED HEARTS
  • 00:42:00.830 --> 00:42:04.801
  • AND OUR HONEST TEARS.
  • 00:42:04.901 --> 00:42:07.837
  • WE REPENT OF WHAT TURNSUS TO LESSER LOVES
  • 00:42:07.937 --> 00:42:11.608
  • INSTEAD OF CHERISHINGYOU WHO IS LOVE HIMSELF.
  • 00:42:11.708 --> 00:42:17.780
  • HERE, TOUCH OUR ACHE FORALL THAT WE WISH THAT WAS
  • 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.652
  • AND ALL THAT WEWISH WE WERE.
  • 00:42:22.752 --> 00:42:27.256
  • WE REORIENT TO YOU,JESUS, OUR MORNING STAR,
  • 00:42:27.357 --> 00:42:33.730
  • OUR ALWAYS LIGHT ABOVEANY STORMING DARK.
  • 00:42:33.830 --> 00:42:38.134
  • HERE IS OUR TRUST.
  • 00:42:38.234 --> 00:42:41.104
  • EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BEOKAY BECAUSE YOU WALK
  • 00:42:41.204 --> 00:42:44.507
  • INTO OUR STORY, WALK WITHUS ON WAVES UNTIL IT ALL
  • 00:42:44.607 --> 00:42:49.112
  • ENDS IN YOUR TIME, INYOUR WAYS, FOR OUR
  • 00:42:49.212 --> 00:42:52.582
  • ULTIMATE GOOD ANDYOUR ULTIMATE GLORY.
  • 00:42:52.682 --> 00:42:55.318
  • THAT IS WHY EVERYTHINGIS GOING TO BE OKAY.
  • 00:42:55.418 --> 00:43:00.423
  • SO HERE IS OUR THANKSFOR YOUR RESILIENT
  • 00:43:00.523 --> 00:43:04.227
  • FAITHFULNESS THATENLARGES OUR RESILIENCE
  • 00:43:04.327 --> 00:43:08.665
  • GREATER THAN ANY WAVE.
  • 00:43:08.765 --> 00:43:11.234
  • IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THEONLY ONE WHO'S EVER LOVED
  • 00:43:11.334 --> 00:43:16.706
  • US TO DEATH AND CALLED USBACK TO THE REALEST LIFE
  • 00:43:16.806 --> 00:43:22.245
  • THAT GETS OUT OF THEBOAT AND WALKS ON WATER.
  • 00:43:22.345 --> 00:43:27.450
  • IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:43:27.550 --> 00:43:31.154
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  • - I HOPE YOU ENJOYEDLISTENING TO WHAT
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  • WE'VE ALL BEEN ENGAGING.
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  • WITH US, OVER 12 HOURS OFLISTENING AND LEARNING
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  • FROM SOME OF THE TOPLEADERS WHO RIGHT NOW ARE
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  • THE CHURCH TO MOVEFORWARD WITH FAITH AND
  • 00:43:52.075 --> 00:43:53.576
  • CONFIDENCE IN A MOMENTWHERE MANY ARE REACTING
  • 00:43:53.676 --> 00:43:55.578
  • WITH FEAR. HOW CANWE GET CREATIVE?
  • 00:43:55.678 --> 00:43:57.513
  • HOW CAN WE LEAD?
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  • WE BELIEVE THERE'S A NEWOPPORTUNITY BEING BORN
  • 00:43:59.382 --> 00:44:01.250
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  • - WELL FRIENDS, JUSTABOUT A MONTH AGO, MY
  • 00:44:25.641 --> 00:44:28.845
  • COLLEAGUES DAVE BLANCHARDAND KURT KEILHACKER AND
  • 00:44:28.945 --> 00:44:31.214
  • I WROTE A PIECE COMPARINGTHIS PANDEMIC CRISIS THAT
  • 00:44:31.314 --> 00:44:33.783
  • WE'RE ALL LIVING THROUGHTO THREE THINGS:
  • 00:44:33.883 --> 00:44:35.485
  • A BLIZZARD, WINTER AND ANICE AGE, BECAUSE WE WANT
  • 00:44:35.585 --> 00:44:39.756
  • TO MAKE THE CASE THAT WEARE LOOKING AT LASTING
  • 00:44:39.856 --> 00:44:41.724
  • CHANGES AND THECONDITIONS THAT WE'LL ALL
  • 00:44:41.824 --> 00:44:44.193
  • BE LIVING THROUGHFOR A LONG TIME.
  • 00:44:44.293 --> 00:44:46.496
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ABLIZZARD, IT COMES ON
  • 00:44:46.596 --> 00:44:49.198
  • VERY QUICKLY. IT'SQUITE INTENSE.
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  • THE ONLY REAL OPTION ISTO FIND SHELTER, SHELTER
  • 00:44:51.567 --> 00:44:53.836
  • IN PLACE, STAY HOME.
  • 00:44:53.936 --> 00:44:56.005
  • BUT IT ALSO PASSESRELATIVELY QUICKLY AND
  • 00:44:56.105 --> 00:44:58.207
  • THE SNOW STOPS FALLINGAND YOU GO OUTSIDE.
  • 00:44:58.307 --> 00:45:00.643
  • BUT A WINTER ISDIFFERENT, AND WE
  • 00:45:00.743 --> 00:45:03.579
  • ACTUALLY THINK THAT WENEED TO CONSIDER THAT
  • 00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:05.381
  • WE HAVEN'T JUSTEXPERIENCED A BLIZZARD
  • 00:45:05.481 --> 00:45:07.850
  • BUT THE ONSET OF WINTER.
  • 00:45:07.950 --> 00:45:10.019
  • WINTER IS LONGER ANDHARDER THAN A BLIZZARD.
  • 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:13.189
  • YOU CAN GO OUTBUT NOT FOR LONG.
  • 00:45:13.289 --> 00:45:15.291
  • YOU HAVE TO WEARPROTECTIVE CLOTHING.
  • 00:45:15.391 --> 00:45:17.126
  • A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THATARE NORMAL AT OTHER TIMES
  • 00:45:17.226 --> 00:45:19.028
  • ARE NOT POSSIBLE INWINTER, AND MAYBE MOST OF
  • 00:45:19.128 --> 00:45:21.397
  • ALL YOU'RE ALWAYSTHINKING ABOUT AND AWARE
  • 00:45:21.497 --> 00:45:23.499
  • OF THE POSSIBILITYOF ANOTHER STORM.
  • 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.668
  • YOU'RE CHECKING THEFORECAST AND HAVING TO
  • 00:45:25.768 --> 00:45:27.236
  • PLAN AROUND THAT, AND ITHINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
  • 00:45:27.336 --> 00:45:29.705
  • THE REALITY OF WHAT LIFEIS LIKE FOR MANY MONTHS.
  • 00:45:29.806 --> 00:45:32.809
  • AT THE SAME TIME, IT'SVERY LIKELY THAT WHAT
  • 00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:35.211
  • WE'RE ENTERING INTO ISNOT ACTUALLY JUST A
  • 00:45:35.311 --> 00:45:37.280
  • SEASON THAT IS A MATTEROF THREE OR FOUR MONTHS,
  • 00:45:37.380 --> 00:45:39.882
  • BUT COULD BE AMUCH LONGER EVENT.
  • 00:45:39.982 --> 00:45:42.285
  • WE STARTED TO THINK ABOUTTHE YEAR WITHOUT A SUMMER.
  • 00:45:42.385 --> 00:45:45.288
  • THE YEAR WITHOUT A SUMMERWAS 1816 AND IT WAS
  • 00:45:45.388 --> 00:45:48.958
  • CAUSED BY A VOLCANICERUPTION IN 1815 IN
  • 00:45:49.058 --> 00:45:51.627
  • INDONESIA, WHAT'SNOW INDONESIA.
  • 00:45:51.727 --> 00:45:53.563
  • THAT THE NEXT YEARCREATED WINTER-LIKE
  • 00:45:53.663 --> 00:45:56.165
  • CONDITIONS ALL YEAR,ESPECIALLY IN THE
  • 00:45:56.265 --> 00:45:58.568
  • NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.
  • 00:45:58.668 --> 00:46:00.303
  • FROSTS IN EVERY MONTH OFSUMMER, JULY AND AUGUST
  • 00:46:00.403 --> 00:46:04.073
  • IN NORTH AMERICAAND EUROPE.
  • 00:46:04.173 --> 00:46:06.609
  • AND JUST AS THE YEARWITHOUT A SUMMER STARTED
  • 00:46:06.709 --> 00:46:09.645
  • WITH A VOLCANO BUT ENDEDUP WITH THESE MASSIVE
  • 00:46:09.745 --> 00:46:11.881
  • AGRICULTURAL ANDECONOMIC AFFECTS.
  • 00:46:11.981 --> 00:46:14.650
  • SO OUR CURRENT PANDEMICMAY INDEED LEAD TO
  • 00:46:14.750 --> 00:46:18.020
  • MASSIVE EFFECTS LONGAFTER THE PANDEMIC ITSELF
  • 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:20.456
  • IS ADDRESSED THAT WILLTAKE US A LONG TIME
  • 00:46:20.556 --> 00:46:22.725
  • TO RECOVER FROM.
  • 00:46:22.825 --> 00:46:24.927
  • THE IMMEDIATE CHALLENGEIN ALL OF THIS IS GOING
  • 00:46:25.027 --> 00:46:27.129
  • TO BE SURVIVAL, AND FORMANY PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT
  • 00:46:27.230 --> 00:46:29.365
  • BE A METAPHOR; THAT WILLBE LITERAL, A SENSE OF
  • 00:46:29.465 --> 00:46:31.634
  • LITERAL LIFE AND DEATHCONSEQUENCES AS THOSE WHO
  • 00:46:31.734 --> 00:46:34.337
  • ARE OLDER, THOSE WHO AREIMMUNOCOMPROMISED, THOSE
  • 00:46:34.437 --> 00:46:36.873
  • WHO HAVE THE UNDERLYINGCONDITIONS THAT MAKE THIS
  • 00:46:36.973 --> 00:46:38.741
  • VIRUS MORE DANGEROUS HAVETO THINK EVERY TIME THEY
  • 00:46:38.841 --> 00:46:41.177
  • GO OUT ABOUT THEIR OWNSURVIVAL IN A VERY NEW WAY.
  • 00:46:41.277 --> 00:46:44.814
  • BUT THERE ARE ALSO ISSUESOF ECONOMIC SURVIVAL.
  • 00:46:44.914 --> 00:46:48.217
  • THE FORMER COMMISSIONER OFTHE FDA, SCOTT GOTTLIEB,
  • 00:46:48.317 --> 00:46:51.354
  • PROJECTS THAT EVEN AS WERETURN TO SOME KIND OF
  • 00:46:51.454 --> 00:46:54.490
  • ECONOMIC NORMAL,IT'S LIKELY TO BE WHAT
  • 00:46:54.590 --> 00:46:56.659
  • HE CALLS AN 80PERCENT ECONOMY.
  • 00:46:56.759 --> 00:46:59.795
  • AND IF YOU THINK ABOUTAN 80 PERCENT ECONOMY
  • 00:46:59.896 --> 00:47:01.998
  • IMPLIES A 20 PERCENTCONTRACTION IN GROSS
  • 00:47:02.098 --> 00:47:04.533
  • DOMESTIC PRODUCT OR GDP.
  • 00:47:04.634 --> 00:47:06.736
  • THE LAST RECESSION WEHAD, THE GREAT RECESSION
  • 00:47:06.836 --> 00:47:09.171
  • WAS ONLY ABOUT 4.3PERCENT CONTRACTION
  • 00:47:09.272 --> 00:47:12.108
  • FROM PEAK TO TROUGH.
  • 00:47:12.208 --> 00:47:14.043
  • A 20 PERCENT CONTRACTIONIS VERY SIGNIFICANT, AND
  • 00:47:14.143 --> 00:47:16.879
  • IT'S NOT GOING TO HIT ALLSECTORS THE SAME WAY.
  • 00:47:16.979 --> 00:47:19.849
  • WE HAVE A MENTOR ATPRAXIS WHO WORKS WITH
  • 00:47:19.949 --> 00:47:22.685
  • OUR NONPROFIT PORTFOLIO.
  • 00:47:22.785 --> 00:47:24.320
  • HE HIMSELF IS THE CEO OFA FORTUNE 500 COMPANY,
  • 00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:27.456
  • VERY GENEROUS HOPEFULFAITHFUL LEADER, AND HE
  • 00:47:27.556 --> 00:47:31.260
  • IS URGING THE NONPROFITSHE WORKS WITH TO BUDGET
  • 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.630
  • FOR A 60 PERCENTREDUCTION IN GIVING OVER
  • 00:47:34.730 --> 00:47:38.100
  • THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
  • 00:47:38.200 --> 00:47:40.169
  • WHAT IS YOURCORE MISSION?
  • 00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:42.605
  • HOW COULD YOU ACCOMPLISHIT IF GIVING DECLINED
  • 00:47:42.705 --> 00:47:45.041
  • VERY LIKELY BY 20 PERCENT,BUT BY 40 OR 60 PERCENT?
  • 00:47:45.141 --> 00:47:49.879
  • THESE ARE SURVIVALQUESTIONS.
  • 00:47:49.979 --> 00:47:51.647
  • THESE ARE WINTERQUESTIONS.
  • 00:47:51.747 --> 00:47:54.016
  • NOW YOU MIGHT THINKTHAT'S JUST LIKE THE
  • 00:47:54.116 --> 00:47:56.619
  • WORST CASE SCENARIO.
  • 00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.188
  • IT'S NOT THE WORST CASE.
  • 00:47:59.288 --> 00:48:02.291
  • THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANSNECESSARILY THE WORST
  • 00:48:02.391 --> 00:48:04.794
  • PANDEMIC THAT WILL HITOUR OWN SOCIETY IN OUR
  • 00:48:04.894 --> 00:48:06.929
  • GLOBE IN OUR LIFETIME.
  • 00:48:07.029 --> 00:48:08.898
  • THIS IS BY NO MEANS THEWORST ECONOMIC SCENARIO
  • 00:48:08.998 --> 00:48:10.900
  • THAT MAY COME TO PASS.
  • 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.002
  • AND THIS IS WHERE IT ISGREAT TO BE PART OF THE
  • 00:48:13.102 --> 00:48:15.838
  • STORY AND PEOPLE OF GOD,BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF GOD
  • 00:48:15.938 --> 00:48:19.608
  • FACED AND EXPERIENCEDTHE ABSOLUTE WORST CASE
  • 00:48:19.709 --> 00:48:23.112
  • SCENARIO WHICH WAS EXILE.
  • 00:48:23.212 --> 00:48:26.182
  • TO HAVE YOUR NATIONCONQUERED, YOUR LEADERS
  • 00:48:26.282 --> 00:48:28.284
  • DEPORTED, YOUR CULTUREASSIMILATED, ERADICATED,
  • 00:48:28.384 --> 00:48:31.387
  • ELIMINATED, AND THISHAPPENED TO ISRAEL TWICE
  • 00:48:31.487 --> 00:48:33.889
  • IN OLD TESTAMENT TIMES.
  • 00:48:33.990 --> 00:48:36.058
  • ASSYRIA TOOK THE NORTHERNKINGDOM, THEN BABYLON,
  • 00:48:36.158 --> 00:48:37.893
  • JUDAH IN THESOUTHERN KINGDOM.
  • 00:48:37.994 --> 00:48:40.596
  • PSALM 137 PRESERVES FORUS THE LAMENT OF A PEOPLE
  • 00:48:40.696 --> 00:48:44.100
  • WHO SAY HOW CAN WESING THE LORD'S SONG
  • 00:48:44.200 --> 00:48:46.235
  • IN A FOREIGN LAND? BYTHE WATERS OF BABYLON,
  • 00:48:46.335 --> 00:48:48.371
  • WE LAID DOWN OUR HARPSWHEN WE REMEMBERED ZION.
  • 00:48:48.471 --> 00:48:52.475
  • THE AMAZING GIFT OF EXILEIS THAT YOU DISCOVER A
  • 00:48:52.575 --> 00:48:58.214
  • VERY UNEXPECTED ANSWER TOTHAT LAMENT OF PSALM 137
  • 00:48:58.314 --> 00:49:02.385
  • WHICH IS THAT YOU CANSING THE LORD'S SONG IN A
  • 00:49:02.485 --> 00:49:04.820
  • FOREIGN LAND, EVENAS YOU HAVE TO MAKE
  • 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.490
  • UNTHINKABLE ADJUSTMENTS.
  • 00:49:07.590 --> 00:49:09.158
  • THE RABBIS HAD TO ASKAFTER THE TEMPLE WAS
  • 00:49:09.258 --> 00:49:11.660
  • DEFILED AND DESTROYED, WECAN NO LONGER GATHER IN
  • 00:49:11.761 --> 00:49:14.563
  • THE TEMPLE AND KNOW THATTHE PRESENCE OF GOD IS THERE.
  • 00:49:14.663 --> 00:49:16.766
  • WE CAN NO LONGER BE THEREAND THOUSANDS OF THE ALL
  • 00:49:16.866 --> 00:49:19.135
  • THE CLANS AND FAMILIESOF ISRAEL JOINED TOGETHER
  • 00:49:19.235 --> 00:49:21.237
  • IN WORSHIP. WHAT'S THEMINIMUM NUMBER?
  • 00:49:21.337 --> 00:49:24.140
  • LIKE, HOW FEW JEWS DOTHERE HAVE TO BE TO BE
  • 00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:26.909
  • ABLE TO TRUST THATGOD IS PRESENT?
  • 00:49:27.009 --> 00:49:28.377
  • AND THEY CAME UP WITHTHIS RABBINIC NUMBER
  • 00:49:28.477 --> 00:49:29.845
  • CALLED THE MINION.TEN IS THE NUMBER.
  • 00:49:29.945 --> 00:49:32.848
  • THE BELIEF THAT IF JUSTTEN COULD GATHER TO PRAY,
  • 00:49:32.948 --> 00:49:35.151
  • GOD WOULD BE THERE.
  • 00:49:35.251 --> 00:49:37.586
  • WE ARE GOING TO BE LIVINGWITH SMALL NUMBERS FOR
  • 00:49:37.686 --> 00:49:39.855
  • QUITE A WHILE BECAUSE THEYEMERGE FROM THE KIND OF
  • 00:49:39.955 --> 00:49:41.991
  • MATHEMATICS OFVIRAL TRANSMISSION.
  • 00:49:42.091 --> 00:49:44.326
  • LIMITS AS LOW AS TEN, MAYBEFIFTY, MAYBE A HUNDRED.
  • 00:49:44.427 --> 00:49:48.297
  • THE CRAZY THING IS THESENUMBERS WHICH ARE PUBLIC
  • 00:49:48.397 --> 00:49:50.900
  • HEALTH POLICY NUMBERSARE ALSO IN OUR
  • 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.369
  • JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN STORY.
  • 00:49:53.469 --> 00:49:55.304
  • THE FEEDING OF THE FIVETHOUSAND, ONE OF THE BIG
  • 00:49:55.404 --> 00:49:57.173
  • EVENTS OF THE GOSPELS,FIVE THOUSAND MEN PLUS
  • 00:49:57.273 --> 00:49:59.375
  • WOMEN AND CHILDRENSAYS MARK.
  • 00:49:59.475 --> 00:50:01.143
  • AND MARK ADDS THIS DETAILTHAT JESUS HAD THE
  • 00:50:01.243 --> 00:50:03.345
  • DISCIPLES ARRANGE THEMIN GROUPS OF FIFTY AND A
  • 00:50:03.446 --> 00:50:06.449
  • HUNDRED. JESUS ACTUALLYDOUBLES DOWN
  • 00:50:06.549 --> 00:50:09.618
  • OR REDUCES THE MINION.
  • 00:50:09.718 --> 00:50:11.821
  • THE RABBI SAID TEN, BUTHE SAYS WHEN TWO OR THREE
  • 00:50:11.921 --> 00:50:14.190
  • OF YOU ARE PRESENT ORGATHERED TOGETHER IN MY
  • 00:50:14.290 --> 00:50:16.892
  • NAME, I WILL BE PRESENTIN THE MIDST OF THEM.
  • 00:50:16.992 --> 00:50:19.995
  • WHY ARE SMALL NUMBERS SUCH ABIG PART OF GOD'S STORY?
  • 00:50:20.096 --> 00:50:23.866
  • I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF ASOCIOLOGICAL AXIOM, WHICH
  • 00:50:23.966 --> 00:50:27.703
  • IS THAT THE ONLY WAY TOCHANGE CULTURE IS THROUGH
  • 00:50:27.803 --> 00:50:31.307
  • AN ABSOLUTELY SMALLGROUP OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:50:31.407 --> 00:50:34.443
  • LARGE GROUPS CAN PRESERVECULTURE, LARGE GROUPS CAN
  • 00:50:34.543 --> 00:50:37.079
  • TRANSMIT CULTURE, BUTIF YOU WANT TO CHANGE
  • 00:50:37.179 --> 00:50:40.483
  • CULTURE, YOU HAVETO THINK SMALL.
  • 00:50:40.583 --> 00:50:43.919
  • AND SO THE QUESTIONBECOMES WHY ARE WE HERE?
  • 00:50:44.019 --> 00:50:49.358
  • ARE WE HERE FORCULTURAL PRESERVATION?
  • 00:50:49.458 --> 00:50:52.261
  • PRESERVING A WAY OF LIFE,PRESERVING A CERTAIN
  • 00:50:52.361 --> 00:50:54.096
  • STANDARD OF LIVING?
  • 00:50:54.196 --> 00:50:55.965
  • IF SO, WE SHOULD BETERRIFIED AT THIS MOMENT.
  • 00:50:56.065 --> 00:50:59.602
  • OR ARE WE HERE FORCULTURAL TRANSFORMATION?
  • 00:50:59.702 --> 00:51:03.906
  • TO BRING A DEEPCHANGE IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:51:04.006 --> 00:51:06.242
  • IF SO, WE SHOULD BEENERGIZED BECAUSE WE HAVE
  • 00:51:06.342 --> 00:51:08.978
  • EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
  • 00:51:09.078 --> 00:51:11.914
  • IT WASN'T JUST ISRAELTHAT EXPERIENCED
  • 00:51:12.014 --> 00:51:14.917
  • ITS WORST CASE.
  • 00:51:15.017 --> 00:51:17.086
  • ALL THE NATIONS THATCONQUERED ISRAEL DID AS WELL.
  • 00:51:17.186 --> 00:51:20.156
  • EMPIRES ARE PARTICULARLYSUSCEPTIBLE TO THE THREE
  • 00:51:20.256 --> 00:51:22.858
  • GREAT SCOURGES OF HUMANKIND:
  • 00:51:22.958 --> 00:51:24.960
  • FAMINE, PLAGUE AND WAR.
  • 00:51:25.060 --> 00:51:27.363
  • ASSYRIA FELL TO THEM.BABYLON FELL TO THEM.
  • 00:51:27.463 --> 00:51:30.733
  • AND EVENTUALLYROME FACED THEM.
  • 00:51:30.833 --> 00:51:32.635
  • IN THE CENTURIES AFTERAUGUSTUS, THE FIRST
  • 00:51:32.735 --> 00:51:34.270
  • CENTURIES OF THE COMMONERA, ROME WAS BESET BY
  • 00:51:34.370 --> 00:51:37.139
  • WAR, BY PLAGUE AND FAMINE.
  • 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.041
  • AND THE PAGANISM OF ROME HADNO SOLUTION FOR THESE THINGS,
  • 00:51:39.141 --> 00:51:41.410
  • NO PLAN FOR THESE THINGS.ROME WAS BUILT ON WAR.
  • 00:51:41.510 --> 00:51:44.380
  • THE ONLY WAY THEY KNEWWHO TO GOVERN WAS WAR.
  • 00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.248
  • WHEN PLAGUE CAME, THEPAGAN PRIESTS FLED.
  • 00:51:46.348 --> 00:51:49.718
  • AND WHEN FAMINE CAME,ROME ONLY FEDS ITS
  • 00:51:49.818 --> 00:51:52.288
  • CITIZENS, AND EVENTUALLYEVEN THE GRAND SHIPMENTS
  • 00:51:52.388 --> 00:51:54.256
  • DIDN'T SUFFICE TO FEEDTHEIR OWN CITIZENS,
  • 00:51:54.356 --> 00:51:56.225
  • AND NON-CITIZENS WERELEFT TO STARVE.
  • 00:51:56.325 --> 00:51:59.228
  • AND IN THE MIDST OFTHAT CULTURE, THE FIRST
  • 00:51:59.328 --> 00:52:02.831
  • CHRISTIANS CREATEDAN ALTERNATIVE.
  • 00:52:02.932 --> 00:52:05.401
  • THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATEIN VIOLENCE.
  • 00:52:05.501 --> 00:52:08.003
  • THEY DIDN'T PARTICIPATEIN THE EMPIRE'S WARS.
  • 00:52:08.103 --> 00:52:09.838
  • WHEN PLAGUES CAME, THEYSERVED AND NURSED THE SICK
  • 00:52:09.939 --> 00:52:12.808
  • OFTEN BACK TO HEALTH.
  • 00:52:12.908 --> 00:52:14.777
  • WHEN FAMINE CAME, THEYFED ANYONE THEY COULD,
  • 00:52:14.877 --> 00:52:17.079
  • ALL THE HUNGRY, WHETHERYOU'RE A MEMBER OF
  • 00:52:17.179 --> 00:52:18.547
  • THEIR COMMUNITY OR NOT.
  • 00:52:18.647 --> 00:52:20.849
  • THEY CREATED A DIFFERENTCULTURE IN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:52:20.950 --> 00:52:24.253
  • ROME'S WORST CASE.
  • 00:52:24.353 --> 00:52:28.090
  • SO THESE ARE THESTAKES FOR US.
  • 00:52:28.190 --> 00:52:30.826
  • YES, SURVIVAL.
  • 00:52:30.926 --> 00:52:32.161
  • THINK ABOUT THE SURVIVALOF YOUR OWN FAMILY, OF
  • 00:52:32.261 --> 00:52:33.996
  • YOUR BUSINESS, YOURMINISTRY, YOUR CHURCH,
  • 00:52:34.096 --> 00:52:37.233
  • BUT FAR DEEPER THAN THAT,I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS
  • 00:52:37.333 --> 00:52:41.503
  • THE WORST CASE SCENARIO,I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
  • 00:52:41.604 --> 00:52:43.305
  • GOING TO COME TO PASS,BUT I DO KNOW THAT ONE
  • 00:52:43.405 --> 00:52:45.741
  • DAY THE WORST CASESCENARIO WILL COME TO
  • 00:52:45.841 --> 00:52:47.610
  • PASS FOR THIS EMPIRE ASIT HAS FOR EVERY OTHER,
  • 00:52:47.710 --> 00:52:51.313
  • AND THEN THE QUESTIONWILL BE WHAT
  • 00:52:51.413 --> 00:52:52.748
  • CULTURE WERE WE CREATING?
  • 00:52:52.848 --> 00:52:55.551
  • WHAT HAD WE CREATEDBEFORE THAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:52:55.651 --> 00:52:59.688
  • WHAT ALTERNATIVE DOWE HAVE TO OFFER?
  • 00:52:59.788 --> 00:53:02.424
  • AND IF THERE'S ANY GIFTOF THIS YEAR WITHOUT A
  • 00:53:02.524 --> 00:53:06.328
  • SUMMER, IT'S THE CHANCETO ASK THAT QUESTION.
  • 00:53:06.428 --> 00:53:10.699
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:53:10.799 --> 00:53:12.167
  • ♪ ♪
  • 00:53:12.268 --> 00:53:13.969
  • - I WANT TO INVITEREBEKAH, MY WIFE WHO HAS
  • 00:53:14.069 --> 00:53:16.138
  • BEEN A LABORER IN PRAYER,AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:53:16.238 --> 00:53:19.675
  • WHEN WE KIND OF CONCLUDETHIS FIRST SESSION
  • 00:53:19.775 --> 00:53:21.944
  • TOGETHER THAT WE JUSTSPEND A MOMENT PRAYING
  • 00:53:22.044 --> 00:53:23.879
  • TOGETHER, NO MATTER WHEREYOU'RE AT IN YOUR ROOM,
  • 00:53:23.979 --> 00:53:26.582
  • IN YOUR CLOSET, WITH YOURKIDS, IN YOUR CAR, THAT
  • 00:53:26.682 --> 00:53:29.852
  • WE WOULD COLLECTIVELY,THAT THESE THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:53:29.952 --> 00:53:31.687
  • PEOPLE GATHERED ALL OVERTHE U.S., ALL AROUND THE
  • 00:53:31.787 --> 00:53:34.056
  • WORLD, THAT WE WOULD JUSTTAKE A MOMENT TO DO SOME
  • 00:53:34.156 --> 00:53:37.026
  • OF OUR OWN LABOR RIGHTNOW, THAT WE WOULD PRAY.
  • 00:53:37.126 --> 00:53:39.695
  • AND SO REBEKAH, LEAD US.
  • 00:53:39.795 --> 00:53:41.697
  • - YES, LET'S DOTHAT RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:53:41.797 --> 00:53:43.332
  • JESUS, THANK YOU FORYOUR SOVEREIGNTY.
  • 00:53:43.432 --> 00:53:45.634
  • THANK YOU FOR YOURAUTHORITY, AND YOUR
  • 00:53:45.734 --> 00:53:47.403
  • POWER, AND YOUR PRESENCE,AND YOUR NEARNESS, YOUR
  • 00:53:47.503 --> 00:53:52.508
  • EVER-PRESENT HELP INEVERY MOMENT OF TROUBLE.
  • 00:53:52.608 --> 00:53:55.444
  • AND I PRAY FOR THE PERSONWHO'S WATCHING WHO FEELS
  • 00:53:55.544 --> 00:53:57.813
  • ALONE AND ISOLATED, GOD,THAT THEY WOULD KNOW THAT
  • 00:53:57.913 --> 00:54:01.116
  • THEY ARE NOT ALONE, THATSOLITUDE IS DIFFERENT
  • 00:54:01.216 --> 00:54:04.153
  • THAN LONELINESS,THAT YOU ARE THERE.
  • 00:54:04.253 --> 00:54:06.989
  • YOU ARE THERE RIGHTTHERE WITH THEM.
  • 00:54:07.089 --> 00:54:08.891
  • MAY THEY FEEL YOURNEARNESS RIGHT NOW, GOD.
  • 00:54:08.991 --> 00:54:12.728
  • MAY THEY JUST PALMS UP ORIN A POSTURE OF KNEELING
  • 00:54:12.828 --> 00:54:15.898
  • ON THEIR FLOOR, WHATEVERTHAT LOOKS LIKE LORD, MAY
  • 00:54:15.998 --> 00:54:18.467
  • THEY COME TO SEE ANDKNOW THAT YOU ARE GOD.
  • 00:54:18.567 --> 00:54:21.670
  • BE STILL AND KNOWTHAT I AM GOD.
  • 00:54:21.770 --> 00:54:25.708
  • THANK YOU THAT THE SAMESPIRIT DWELLS IN US
  • 00:54:25.808 --> 00:54:28.544
  • UNITING THE HEARTS OFYOUR PEOPLE, AND THAT
  • 00:54:28.644 --> 00:54:31.313
  • YOU'RE NOT CONTAINED,YOUR CHURCH IS NOT
  • 00:54:31.413 --> 00:54:33.248
  • CONTAINED BY BRICK ANDMORTAR BUT IT IS WHEN THE
  • 00:54:33.349 --> 00:54:36.218
  • SPIRIT OF THE REVIVEDCHURCH COMES TOGETHER
  • 00:54:36.318 --> 00:54:39.922
  • READY TO SEE GOD, YOU DOWHAT ONLY YOU CAN DO.
  • 00:54:40.022 --> 00:54:44.026
  • SO WE PRAISEYOU IN ADVANCE.
  • 00:54:44.126 --> 00:54:46.295
  • WE PRAISE YOU IN ADVANCEFOR WHAT IS YET TO COME.
  • 00:54:46.395 --> 00:54:49.865
  • WE PRAISE YOU AND WETHANK YOU THAT YOU
  • 00:54:49.965 --> 00:54:54.002
  • RESTORE US, AND YOURECONCILE US, AND YOU
  • 00:54:54.103 --> 00:54:57.773
  • REDEEM US, AND YOU HEALUS, YOU HEAL US
  • 00:54:57.873 --> 00:55:00.409
  • AND YOU HEAL OUR LAND.
  • 00:55:00.509 --> 00:55:02.544
  • THANK YOU, THANK YOU,THANK YOU, AND WE WILL
  • 00:55:02.644 --> 00:55:05.381
  • NEVER STOP THANKING YOUFOR THE GOOD GIFTS.
  • 00:55:05.481 --> 00:55:08.684
  • EVERY GOOD ANDPERFECT GIFT COMES
  • 00:55:08.784 --> 00:55:10.419
  • FROM THE FATHER ABOVE.
  • 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.555
  • IN YOUR MIGHTY NAME,JESUS, WE ASK THESE
  • 00:55:13.655 --> 00:55:15.724
  • THINGS, FOR WHEN WE DO,WE KNOW IT IS GIVEN.
  • 00:55:15.824 --> 00:55:20.229
  • AMEN.
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