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November 4, 2016
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host 'Is This The End?' with Dr. David Jeremiah
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- - David Jeremiah: But Almighty
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- God, I mean, when you look up
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- into heaven, the throne
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- of heaven is not unoccupied.
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- God is sitting there in control.
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- Here's what I know.
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- It's an age-old statement that I
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- don't know what the future holds
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- [music]
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- - Matt Crouch: "Praise" today
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- is asking a question.
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- You say, sir?
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- - David: Well, I don't think
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- it's the end because there
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- aren't any signs for the end
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- as we know it as believers.
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- But the Bible says we can know
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- the season.
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- In the New Testament people ask,
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- when Jesus is coming back?"
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- Of course not.
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- Even when Jesus was on
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- this earth, he did not know.
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- He said only the Father knew.
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- And the angels don't know.
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- So when somebody tells you they
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- know when Jesus is coming back,
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- you know they haven't read
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- the Bible because the Bible
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- says that isn't true.
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- But we can see the signs
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- that it's getting closer.
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- And, as you know, Matt,
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- when Israel got back into her
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- homeland, I mean, the clock was
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- ticking and we've been watching
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- it very carefully.
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- Dr. David Jeremiah,
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- asking the question
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- people are asking,
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- "Is this the end?"
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- As we sat down for this
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- interview to give this
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- opportunity for you to get
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- the book, all the information's
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- on the screen.
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- We want you to call
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- the special 800-number.
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- I don't know how your staff and
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- our staff and the publisher's
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- staff got this all coordinated
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- but I'm very proud of what we're
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- doing today because this book,
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- today, as we're holding it and
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- taping this, was just announced
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- that it is a number one
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- "New York Time" bestseller.
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- We're holding it in our hand.
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- Congratulations, Dr. Jeremiah.
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- And we want you
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- to have the book.
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- So I don't know if this is ever
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- gonna happen again where
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- we're going to have a book
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- in our hand, we're gonna have
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- Dr. Jeremiah or anyone else
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- sitting in that chair, and that
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- everything's been coordinated.
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- The operators are ready
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- to take your call.
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- Any gift to Trinity
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- and the book is yours.
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- We want this information
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- and it's now number one.
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- Okay, what do you want people
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- ultimately to take away?
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- Why do they need this book?
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- - David: Well, you know, the
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- little byline at the bottom of
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- the book says that the
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- providence of God is seen in all
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- of these things.
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- Somebody once told me that God's
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- providence is like reading
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- Hebrew, you have to read it
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- backwards.
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- You have to look back and see
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- what God has done 'cause you
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- can't know what he's going
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- to do.
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- But when you read these
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- have some heavy things in them
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- because we don't live in
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- a free-for-all fun world.
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- But in the midst of it all,
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- God is at work.
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- For instance, Matt, there's
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- a chapter in there on revival.
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- And people ask me do we think
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- there could be another
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- revival in our country?
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- And what's so surprising to me
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- is things have been a lot worse
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- in America at several other
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- times than they are now
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- and I don't think people can
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- realize that could possibly
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- be true but it is and that's
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- when God brings revival.
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- When things are at the very
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- bottom and there's no other hope
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- and the political thing has gone
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- crazy and there's no--you start
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- to look up and God moves in
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- and intervenes.
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- So that's pretty encouraging
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- to me.
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- - Matt: As I was reading
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- through "Is This the End?"
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- you know, you made reference to
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- the Great Depression, you made
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- reference to World War II and,
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- you know, you could even wind
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- back to the Civil War period
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- in America and
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- the Revolutionary War period.
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- There's been very, very, very
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- dark and troubling times in
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- America where people would have
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- been asking, "Is this the end?"
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- Okay, we seem to be at
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- the precipice of that
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- same question being asked.
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- So, look, you've been around
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- a little bit longer than Laurie
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- and I, you've got a little more
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- gray hair than I do although
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- mine is turning gray
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- astonishingly fast, and
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- so you've weathered more storms
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- than Laurie and I and what is
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- your--what is the inside
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- of Dr. Jeremiah telling you
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- about is this the end?
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- Because there's hope and there's
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- in this book.
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- - David: Absolutely.
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- Yes, there is.
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- And one of the most exciting
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- things about revival is that
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- there are basically five
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- movements that have happened
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- in our country, going back to
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- the colonial period,
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- as you mentioned, Matt.
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- All of them have two things
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- in common.
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- They all came at a low point
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- in culture and they all involved
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- young people.
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- And today, there's different
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- ideas about young people
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- but I'll tell you,
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- that's where our hope lies.
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- And that's where thing--for
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- instance, one of my favorite
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- stories is called "The Haystack
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- Prayer Meeting," where a bunch
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- of kids were trying to get out
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- of a storm and they went into
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- a barn and they had a prayer
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- meeting in the haystack and they
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- begin to pray and they told God
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- they would go anywhere with
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- the gospel he would send 'em.
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- They went out of that prayer
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- meeting and that was
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- the beginning of
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- the Modern Missions Movement.
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- It started with a bunch of young
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- people in a haystack.
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- - Matt: Let me tell you--
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- - Laurie Crouch: In a storm.
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- - David: In a storm.
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- - Matt: Let me tell you
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- a really neat thing
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- about young people.
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- Ready?
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- Now you are aware that you have
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- gray hair, right?
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- - David: I am very much aware
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- of that, yes.
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- - Matt: Okay, and do you have
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- an AARP card?
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- - David: No, I should have
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- but I refuse to buy one
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- out of resentment.
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- - Matt: Okay, but I want you to
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- know that out of our
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- Hillsong Channel on TBN,
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- on the Hillsong Channel
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- which is primarily skewing
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- a much younger audience
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- than TBN, that you have one
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- of the highest rated broadcasts
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- on the Hillsong Channel, okay?
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- So what that's really saying is
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- that younger people, you know,
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- in this 25 to 45 range,
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- are wanting truth and they're
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- wanting it from a seasoned
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- veteran preacher.
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- - Laurie: From a father figure.
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- - Matt: So you're basically
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- hitting not only with TBN and
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- those of us that are of the age
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- that we're watching TBN more
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- than we're watching, you know,
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- the Hillsong Channel or, you
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- know, Youth Channel, but there
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- is a major audience
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- and you've hit a stride
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- with a younger audience.
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- So there's good news in this.
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- - David: That's really
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- encouraging to me and,
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- obviously, I think what
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- that says is that these kids
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- want the truth.
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- They don't want it varnished and
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- candy-coated.
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- They want you just to tell 'em
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- the truth and do it with love
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- in your heart and that's what
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- we try to do.
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- God's truth doesn't have
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- an age barrier, does it?
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- It's not just truth for these
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- people.
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- It's truth for the whole world.
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- And so it works.
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- - Matt: If you just tuned in,
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- we are sitting with
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- Dr. Jeremiah, Shadow Mountain's
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- pastor right down in
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- San Diego, California.
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- And we are talking about
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- a "New York Times"
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- number one bestseller book.
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- It is "People Are Asking
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- 'Is This the End?'"
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- And it's available by calling
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- the 800-number.
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- We coordinated this.
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- I love doing this.
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- The operators know why you're
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- Any gift to TBN and
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- bestseller by Dr. Jeremiah
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- is on its way to you.
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- You have a clip.
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- - Laurie: I love--okay,
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- right in the introduction of
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- your book, you say,
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- "Will America revive again?
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- Will we reverse our descent
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- and regain our respect,
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- strength, and stability?
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- Maybe, maybe not.
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- But those are not the questions
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- we should really be asking.
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- If the survival of America and
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- the stability of the world are
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- sources of your hope, then
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- your hope is sadly misplaced.
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- The question you must address is
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- whether--is not whether America
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- and the world will regain their
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- footing but how you will respond
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- whether they do or not."
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- And that's what this book
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- is about.
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- - David: And you know what,
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- Laurie, one of the things
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- that's, you know, we've just
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- been through an election period
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- that's been pretty difficult
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- and I see some of God's people
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- getting so fixated on it that
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- you almost feel like if their
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- preferred result doesn't happen,
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- that their world is finished.
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- And I've been telling people
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- that on the day after
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- the election the sun's gonna
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- come up, the birds are gonna
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- sing, I'm gonna go to work
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- and keep praising God.
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- And that's what we forget,
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- you know.
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- We play all of our games down
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- here and, obviously, we're all
- 00:08:36.280 --> 00:08:38.090
- trying to do what we think is
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- right but Almighty God, I mean,
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- when you look up into heaven,
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- the throne of heaven
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- is not unoccupied.
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- God is sitting there in control.
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- And so whatever he has for
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- us--one of the little statements
- 00:08:49.250 --> 00:08:51.120
- in that book, one of my favorite
- 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:52.120
- little statesmen, says,
- 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.260
- "When everybody thinks that
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- the spiritual life of America
- 00:08:54.280 --> 00:08:56.080
- has gone to the dogs,
- 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.090
- it's always the dog that dies."
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- [laughing]
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- Because somehow God brings it
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- back from the edge of oblivion
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- and that's when God does his
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- best work, when people have
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- lost hope in everything else.
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- One of my--one of the friends
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- that I have who I love to read,
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- he says, "God shows up
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- and God shows off.
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- And shows off his glory."
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- And I believe we're on--we're
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- in a place where we may see that
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- in these next days.
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- - Laurie: And you were talking
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- about the five major things
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- that's happened in America,
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- starting with the youth and
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- the young people.
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- That's--
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- - David: Right.
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- In fact, the only one of those
- 00:09:37.110 --> 00:09:38.150
- revivals that I know about and
- 00:09:38.150 --> 00:09:40.070
- remember is the Jesus Movement
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- and we all remember that.
- 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:42.270
- And the Jesus Movement,
- 00:09:42.270 --> 00:09:44.260
- Billy Graham was
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- a Grand Marshall
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- of the Rose Parade not too far
- 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.090
- from where we're having this
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- conversation and he was driving
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- through this and he noticed all
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- these kids with their hands up
- 00:09:53.010 --> 00:09:54.260
- in the air, going one way.
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- And he was pretty down on what
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- was going on within--he was
- 00:09:58.170 --> 00:10:00.070
- so overwhelmed by that,
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- he wrote a book called,
- 00:10:01.270 --> 00:10:03.150
- "The Jesus Generation," and it--
- 00:10:03.150 --> 00:10:05.090
- and that's why we--it started
- 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:07.020
- all the praise music.
- 00:10:07.020 --> 00:10:08.100
- One writer that I read said,
- 00:10:08.100 --> 00:10:10.080
- "That revival swept all these
- 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:12.090
- people in the Pacific Ocean
- 00:10:12.090 --> 00:10:13.110
- to get baptized."
- 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:15.000
- And then they began filling up
- 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:15.270
- churches like Chuck Smith's
- 00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:17.040
- church and the praise and
- 00:10:17.040 --> 00:10:18.290
- worship music that so dominates
- 00:10:18.290 --> 00:10:20.220
- the culture today
- 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:21.210
- came out of that.
- 00:10:21.210 --> 00:10:22.280
- Once again, young people.
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- - Matt: Okay.
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- You're--when you're talking
- 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.130
- about, in the book that
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- It's available to you.
- 00:10:33.020 --> 00:10:34.010
- "People Are Asking,
- 00:10:35.210 --> 00:10:36.160
- 'Is This the End?'"
- 00:10:36.160 --> 00:10:38.070
- You're really writing from
- 00:10:38.070 --> 00:10:41.020
- a perspective, I think,
- 00:10:41.020 --> 00:10:42.130
- if we use a theological term,
- 00:10:42.130 --> 00:10:44.080
- really the sovereignty of God.
- 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:46.110
- - David: Absolutely.
- 00:10:46.110 --> 00:10:47.050
- - Matt: So hope is going to be
- 00:10:47.290 --> 00:10:50.290
- alive and kindled in people's
- 00:10:50.290 --> 00:10:52.120
- hearts when they have
- 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:53.200
- an understanding of
- 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.220
- the sovereignty of God.
- 00:10:54.220 --> 00:10:55.170
- You know, Uncle Sam may be
- 00:10:55.170 --> 00:10:58.060
- our uncle; he'll never be
- 00:10:58.060 --> 00:10:59.140
- our Father, okay?
- 00:10:59.140 --> 00:11:00.270
- And so we have a Father,
- 00:11:00.270 --> 00:11:02.200
- God the Father.
- 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.170
- And so ultimately, talk to us
- 00:11:05.030 --> 00:11:08.030
- and our television audience
- 00:11:08.030 --> 00:11:09.270
- about a very seasoned view
- 00:11:09.290 --> 00:11:12.290
- on the sovereignty of God.
- 00:11:12.290 --> 00:11:14.080
- There's real hope there.
- 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.050
- - David: Well, this book is
- 00:11:15.050 --> 00:11:17.040
- divided into two sections.
- 00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:18.170
- The first part of the book
- 00:11:18.170 --> 00:11:19.230
- is--asks the question, kind of,
- 00:11:20.050 --> 00:11:23.050
- "Is God finished with America?"
- 00:11:23.050 --> 00:11:25.110
- And the second part asks
- 00:11:25.110 --> 00:11:26.180
- the question, "Is God finished
- 00:11:26.180 --> 00:11:27.220
- with the world?"
- 00:11:27.220 --> 00:11:28.220
- And I purposely put at the end
- 00:11:28.220 --> 00:11:30.150
- of the first section this whole
- 00:11:30.150 --> 00:11:31.280
- chapter on revival and what
- 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:33.100
- happens when a nation returns
- 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:35.180
- to God and God gives them
- 00:11:35.180 --> 00:11:37.170
- several years of renewal.
- 00:11:37.170 --> 00:11:39.060
- At the end of the second half,
- 00:11:39.060 --> 00:11:41.030
- "Is God finished
- 00:11:41.030 --> 00:11:42.110
- with the world?"
- 00:11:42.110 --> 00:11:43.050
- there's a couple of chapters
- 00:11:43.050 --> 00:11:44.200
- on the Rapture and what's gonna
- 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.020
- happen when Christ comes back.
- 00:11:46.020 --> 00:11:47.190
- Either way, we win.
- 00:11:47.190 --> 00:11:49.090
- But in every chapter,
- 00:11:49.090 --> 00:11:50.230
- there's this hope that God
- 00:11:50.230 --> 00:11:52.240
- holds out for those of us.
- 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.240
- One of the most controversial
- 00:11:55.060 --> 00:11:58.060
- things that's happened in recent
- 00:11:58.060 --> 00:11:59.190
- months is the whole discussion
- 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:01.010
- about immigration and that
- 00:12:01.010 --> 00:12:03.220
- anybody would be so crazy as to
- 00:12:03.220 --> 00:12:05.190
- write a chapter on that,
- 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:07.000
- they'd look at me, but I wrote
- 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:07.290
- a chapter called,
- 00:12:07.290 --> 00:12:08.250
- "The Bleeding of the Borders."
- 00:12:08.250 --> 00:12:10.010
- And everybody talks about all
- 00:12:10.250 --> 00:12:13.250
- the issues with that but, Matt,
- 00:12:13.250 --> 00:12:15.230
- listen to this, God told his
- 00:12:15.230 --> 00:12:17.230
- people to go into all the world
- 00:12:17.230 --> 00:12:19.050
- and preach the gospel
- 00:12:19.050 --> 00:12:20.030
- and we haven't done it all
- 00:12:20.030 --> 00:12:20.260
- that great so he dumped them
- 00:12:20.260 --> 00:12:22.000
- at the front of our door.
- 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.140
- He just said, "Okay, if you
- 00:12:23.140 --> 00:12:24.080
- won't go where they are,
- 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:25.140
- I'll put them where you are."
- 00:12:25.140 --> 00:12:26.270
- So I live in El Cajon where we
- 00:12:26.270 --> 00:12:28.270
- have the highest number of Iraqi
- 00:12:28.270 --> 00:12:30.170
- citizens in the United States of
- 00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:32.260
- America and we have now started
- 00:12:32.260 --> 00:12:35.030
- an Arabic church.
- 00:12:35.030 --> 00:12:36.150
- We have Hispanics everywhere.
- 00:12:36.150 --> 00:12:38.020
- We have an Hispanic church so,
- 00:12:38.020 --> 00:12:39.160
- you know, we need to figure out
- 00:12:39.160 --> 00:12:41.050
- what the answers are to these
- 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:42.140
- questions but, in the meantime,
- 00:12:42.140 --> 00:12:44.000
- these people need Jesus Christ.
- 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.000
- - Matt: Yes, they do.
- 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:46.220
- - David: And if we don't go
- 00:12:46.220 --> 00:12:47.130
- to them with the gospel,
- 00:12:47.130 --> 00:12:48.080
- we're derelict.
- 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:49.150
- We're--we sit around and talk
- 00:12:49.150 --> 00:12:50.220
- about all the nuances of
- 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:52.000
- the issue while these people are
- 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.140
- all hovering around our
- 00:12:53.140 --> 00:12:55.030
- churches, wondering, "What is
- 00:12:55.030 --> 00:12:56.070
- the matter with these people?"
- 00:12:56.070 --> 00:12:57.220
- And so, to me, I think
- 00:12:57.220 --> 00:12:59.100
- this--it's a great opportunity
- 00:12:59.100 --> 00:13:01.290
- that God has given us to reach
- 00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:04.020
- people from every walk of life.
- 00:13:04.020 --> 00:13:06.220
- You know, I know TBN's audience
- 00:13:06.220 --> 00:13:08.230
- come to do a "Praise" thing I
- 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:12.040
- look out, it seems like there's
- 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:13.140
- somebody there from everywhere
- 00:13:13.140 --> 00:13:14.110
- in the world.
- 00:13:14.110 --> 00:13:15.090
- And that's the way it should be.
- 00:13:15.090 --> 00:13:16.150
- And that's the world God has
- 00:13:16.150 --> 00:13:18.060
- called us to reach.
- 00:13:18.060 --> 00:13:19.260
- And that book that you hold
- 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:21.060
- in your hands tells us a lot
- 00:13:21.060 --> 00:13:22.170
- about that.
- 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:24.000
- - Matt: Okay, a moment ago
- 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.000
- you hit a tripwire for us.
- 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.230
- You said the word Rapture, okay?
- 00:13:27.230 --> 00:13:30.000
- And so I'm holding a book that
- 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.240
- says, "Is This the End?"
- 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.190
- and then he said
- 00:13:33.190 --> 00:13:35.050
- the word Rapture.
- 00:13:35.050 --> 00:13:36.030
- So stay tuned.
- 00:13:36.030 --> 00:13:37.050
- I think you're prepared to set
- 00:13:37.050 --> 00:13:38.030
- a date for the Lord's return.
- 00:13:38.030 --> 00:13:39.270
- - Laurie: He's already talked
- 00:13:39.270 --> 00:13:40.220
- about that.
- 00:13:40.220 --> 00:13:42.210
- - Matt: So but go to
- 00:13:42.210 --> 00:13:44.010
- the 800-number and get the book,
- 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:45.160
- "New York Times" number one
- 00:13:45.160 --> 00:13:46.150
- bestseller.
- 00:13:46.150 --> 00:13:47.100
- Okay, let's talk about that
- 00:13:47.100 --> 00:13:49.110
- for a minute.
- 00:13:49.110 --> 00:13:51.030
- There's a lot of people, if I
- 00:13:51.060 --> 00:13:54.060
- wind the clock back a few years
- 00:13:54.060 --> 00:13:56.220
- and my dad was sitting here
- 00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:58.170
- with us and you said the word
- 00:13:58.170 --> 00:14:00.170
- Rapture, he'd make you, you
- 00:14:00.170 --> 00:14:02.050
- So where do you see inside of
- 00:14:05.050 --> 00:14:08.050
- this kind of concept that you
- 00:14:08.100 --> 00:14:11.100
- wrote about and it's hard for
- 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:13.130
- anybody to write a book.
- 00:14:13.130 --> 00:14:14.250
- I'm sure it was hard for you to
- 00:14:14.250 --> 00:14:15.170
- write a book.
- 00:14:15.170 --> 00:14:16.070
- You labor to write books and,
- 00:14:16.070 --> 00:14:17.190
- okay, but inside of the season
- 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:19.220
- of writing this book, where do
- 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:20.240
- you see the end times?
- 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.000
- - David: Well, you know, the
- 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:23.220
- Bible tells us very clearly that
- 00:14:23.220 --> 00:14:25.180
- the Rapture is the next major
- 00:14:25.180 --> 00:14:27.170
- event on the prophetic calendar.
- 00:14:27.170 --> 00:14:29.160
- And the Bible teaches that it is
- 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:31.170
- an event that has no precedent.
- 00:14:31.170 --> 00:14:34.120
- It is an imminent event which
- 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.220
- means it could happen at any
- 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:38.180
- time: while we're sitting here,
- 00:14:38.180 --> 00:14:39.240
- while I'm on my way back
- 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.030
- to where I live.
- 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:42.020
- It could happen at any time,
- 00:14:42.020 --> 00:14:43.240
- but nothing needs to happen
- 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:44.260
- before the Rapture occurs.
- 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:46.050
- If something needs to happen,
- 00:14:46.050 --> 00:14:47.230
- then it's not imminent.
- 00:14:47.230 --> 00:14:49.080
- So the Bible tells us that we're
- 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.180
- to be ready and every passage in
- 00:14:51.180 --> 00:14:54.050
- the New Testament where you have
- 00:14:54.050 --> 00:14:55.170
- prophecy, you have a practical
- 00:14:55.170 --> 00:14:57.190
- application for that prophecy
- 00:14:57.190 --> 00:14:58.260
- tucked in the context.
- 00:14:58.260 --> 00:15:00.190
- People just don't see 'em,
- 00:15:00.190 --> 00:15:01.260
- they don't read 'em.
- 00:15:01.260 --> 00:15:02.250
- For instance, "Let not your
- 00:15:02.250 --> 00:15:03.280
- heart be troubled.
- 00:15:03.280 --> 00:15:05.090
- You believe in God,
- 00:15:05.090 --> 00:15:06.060
- believe also in me.
- 00:15:06.060 --> 00:15:07.220
- In my Father's house
- 00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:08.160
- there are many mansions.
- 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:09.170
- If it were not so, I would--"
- 00:15:09.170 --> 00:15:10.240
- So what is the first--what are
- 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:11.180
- the first two words?
- 00:15:11.180 --> 00:15:12.190
- "Don't be troubled."
- 00:15:12.190 --> 00:15:13.280
- The Bible teaches us how
- 00:15:13.280 --> 00:15:15.040
- to respond to all of this.
- 00:15:15.040 --> 00:15:16.170
- And what I teach and what I
- 00:15:16.170 --> 00:15:18.010
- believe is that Christians need
- 00:15:18.010 --> 00:15:19.190
- to understand that Jesus Christ
- 00:15:19.190 --> 00:15:21.100
- is coming back and he could come
- 00:15:21.100 --> 00:15:23.050
- back at any moment, especially
- 00:15:23.050 --> 00:15:24.270
- because Israel's in her land,
- 00:15:24.270 --> 00:15:26.220
- the clock is ticking.
- 00:15:26.220 --> 00:15:27.190
- Nothing needs to happen.
- 00:15:27.190 --> 00:15:29.020
- He may not come back
- 00:15:29.020 --> 00:15:30.000
- for a long time.
- 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:30.290
- But he may come back tomorrow.
- 00:15:30.290 --> 00:15:32.100
- And the Christian's
- 00:15:32.100 --> 00:15:33.260
- responsibility is to be ready
- 00:15:33.260 --> 00:15:35.070
- and to live our lives
- 00:15:35.070 --> 00:15:36.170
- with a sense of urgency.
- 00:15:36.170 --> 00:15:37.230
- Matt, I have greater sense of
- 00:15:37.230 --> 00:15:40.000
- urgency about what God has
- 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.110
- called me to do now than I have
- 00:15:41.110 --> 00:15:42.100
- ever had in my life, after all
- 00:15:42.100 --> 00:15:44.220
- these years of serving the Lord,
- 00:15:44.220 --> 00:15:45.170
- because I believe that God still
- 00:15:45.190 --> 00:15:48.190
- wants to take many people to
- 00:15:48.190 --> 00:15:50.050
- heaven that haven't yet found
- 00:15:50.050 --> 00:15:51.120
- faith in Christ and it's our job
- 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.080
- to do what you're doing.
- 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:54.230
- - Matt: Help me--help me with
- 00:15:54.230 --> 00:15:56.260
- two things that, if you aren't
- 00:15:56.260 --> 00:15:59.130
- real sure, it could seem
- 00:16:00.190 --> 00:16:03.190
- contradictory, okay?
- 00:16:03.190 --> 00:16:05.130
- So I want you to help explain it
- 00:16:05.130 --> 00:16:07.150
- and make it not contradictory.
- 00:16:07.230 --> 00:16:10.230
- So the Bible declares that
- 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:13.110
- the Rapture, in one sense,
- 00:16:15.130 --> 00:16:18.130
- that times will become darker
- 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:21.220
- and more evil and then we
- 00:16:21.220 --> 00:16:24.130
- will somewhat be raptured out.
- 00:16:24.130 --> 00:16:27.110
- At the same time, when things
- 00:16:27.290 --> 00:16:30.290
- get dark, that has ushered in
- 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:34.030
- five major revivals that
- 00:16:34.030 --> 00:16:36.110
- we've discussed earlier
- 00:16:36.110 --> 00:16:37.230
- in this broadcast.
- 00:16:37.230 --> 00:16:38.240
- So help make sure that if we
- 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.030
- pray for revival, we're not
- 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:43.120
- keeping, you know, the end times
- 00:16:43.270 --> 00:16:46.270
- from coming.
- 00:16:46.270 --> 00:16:49.020
- In other words, if it's supposed
- 00:16:49.020 --> 00:16:50.120
- to get bad, is--are we supposed
- 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:51.150
- to just kind of walk away
- 00:16:51.150 --> 00:16:53.030
- and let it go down the chute
- 00:16:53.030 --> 00:16:54.020
- and--okay.
- 00:16:54.020 --> 00:16:55.110
- Help everyone with that.
- 00:16:55.110 --> 00:16:57.000
- - David: Here's the deal, Matt.
- 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.080
- Why would you want to pray for
- 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.190
- revival if you thought that
- 00:16:59.190 --> 00:17:01.270
- you might get the Rapture?
- 00:17:01.270 --> 00:17:03.190
- I mean, the Rapture's gonna
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- be the greatest thing
- 00:17:04.120 --> 00:17:05.110
- that ever happened.
- 00:17:05.110 --> 00:17:06.050
- for revival, it's so that you
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- can have more time to share
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- the gospel and take more people
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- to heaven with you.
- 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:14.190
- If the Rapture came today,
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- those who have not received
- 00:17:16.030 --> 00:17:16.260
- Christ are gonna be left behind,
- 00:17:16.260 --> 00:17:18.170
- to use the very familiar phrase.
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- And that's not our hope
- 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:22.120
- and our goal.
- 00:17:22.120 --> 00:17:23.160
- So we pray for revival
- 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.040
- so that we may have more time
- 00:17:25.040 --> 00:17:27.050
- to preach the gospel.
- 00:17:27.050 --> 00:17:28.230
- I mean, you've built this
- 00:17:28.230 --> 00:17:29.280
- incredible network that just
- 00:17:29.280 --> 00:17:31.070
- covers the earth and every time
- 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:33.060
- that network is live,
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- somebody's hearing the gospel
- 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:36.040
- and somebody's coming to Christ.
- 00:17:36.040 --> 00:17:37.230
- And we want as many people--and,
- 00:17:37.230 --> 00:17:39.220
- you know, the thing that you
- 00:17:39.220 --> 00:17:41.080
- read in the New Testament is
- 00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:42.060
- that God wants them too.
- 00:17:42.060 --> 00:17:43.230
- It says, "I will come and
- 00:17:43.230 --> 00:17:45.080
- get you that where I am
- 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:46.100
- there you may be also."
- 00:17:46.100 --> 00:17:47.280
- God wants us to be with him.
- 00:17:47.280 --> 00:17:48.280
- He wants his people to come
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- and be with him.
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- But the gospel
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- has to be preached.
- 00:17:52.170 --> 00:17:53.260
- So we pray for revival that
- 00:17:53.260 --> 00:17:55.130
- we might have more time
- 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:56.210
- to preach the gospel.
- 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:58.000
- And obviously, we want
- 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:58.240
- the benefits of the revival
- 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:00.090
- today as well.
- 00:18:00.090 --> 00:18:01.180
- But the Rapture's the ultimate
- 00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:03.040
- about all these questions like
- 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:06.250
- you ask, these hard questions,
- 00:18:06.250 --> 00:18:08.060
- and I know that God has it
- 00:18:08.060 --> 00:18:09.150
- all figured out.
- 00:18:09.150 --> 00:18:10.160
- When it's time for the Rapture,
- 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:11.230
- the trumpet will sound and
- 00:18:11.230 --> 00:18:13.200
- the dead in Christ will rise and
- 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.060
- we'll be caught up together with
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- him and we'll be with the Lord.
- 00:18:16.050 --> 00:18:17.170
- In the meantime, I'm to work.
- 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:20.240
- One person told me you should
- 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.010
- pray as if it all depended
- 00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:24.110
- upon God, and work like it
- 00:18:24.110 --> 00:18:25.130
- all depended on you.
- 00:18:25.130 --> 00:18:26.230
- And that's where we are
- 00:18:26.230 --> 00:18:27.290
- in our ministry.
- 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:29.070
- - Laurie: You know,
- 00:18:29.070 --> 00:18:30.010
- the apathy in America is, like,
- 00:18:30.010 --> 00:18:31.190
- at a level I've never seen it.
- 00:18:31.190 --> 00:18:33.140
- Have you ever seen--
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- - David: No, and it's not
- 00:18:34.130 --> 00:18:36.030
- just about one thing, Laurie.
- 00:18:36.030 --> 00:18:37.100
- It's about a lot of things.
- 00:18:37.100 --> 00:18:38.090
- - Laurie: Oh, it's about, like,
- 00:18:38.090 --> 00:18:39.010
- everything, yeah.
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- What do you see as some of
- 00:18:39.230 --> 00:18:40.150
- the major issues in America
- 00:18:40.150 --> 00:18:41.290
- right now?
- 00:18:41.290 --> 00:18:43.010
- - David: Well, first of all,
- 00:18:43.010 --> 00:18:44.290
- you mentioned apathy.
- 00:18:44.290 --> 00:18:45.270
- I love that word because it's
- 00:18:45.270 --> 00:18:47.000
- made up of two words, the word
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- pathos which means passion and
- 00:18:48.180 --> 00:18:51.150
- then the little "a" in front
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- of it means without.
- 00:18:52.260 --> 00:18:54.150
- So apathy is without passion.
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- And parents are without passion
- 00:18:56.210 --> 00:18:58.250
- for their kids, people
- 00:18:58.250 --> 00:19:00.120
- are without passion
- 00:19:00.120 --> 00:19:01.130
- for their churches.
- 00:19:01.130 --> 00:19:02.160
- You know, there's a lack of--
- 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.110
- because they're overwhelmed
- 00:19:04.110 --> 00:19:06.110
- with all that's going on.
- 00:19:06.110 --> 00:19:07.290
- They just lose their passion.
- 00:19:07.290 --> 00:19:09.130
- And so that's one of the issues.
- 00:19:09.130 --> 00:19:12.130
- I mean, the main issue that
- 00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:14.080
- we're facing right now is being
- 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:15.250
- overrun, our borders being
- 00:19:15.250 --> 00:19:18.160
- overrun, and we don't know
- 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.200
- what's going on and obviously,
- 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:21.030
- as I mentioned, we're gonna win
- 00:19:21.030 --> 00:19:22.040
- these people to Christ
- 00:19:22.040 --> 00:19:23.050
- but it's still an issue.
- 00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.270
- We have--one of the issues we
- 00:19:24.270 --> 00:19:27.120
- haven't mentioned is the growing
- 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:29.030
- persecution of believers.
- 00:19:29.030 --> 00:19:31.160
- You know, one of the phrases
- 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.020
- I like to use is that,
- 00:19:33.020 --> 00:19:34.090
- are Christians being persecuted?
- 00:19:34.090 --> 00:19:36.070
- They're being squeezed by
- 00:19:36.070 --> 00:19:38.060
- litigation, by stereotyping,
- 00:19:38.060 --> 00:19:40.180
- by intimidation.
- 00:19:40.180 --> 00:19:42.040
- And there's a lot of stories in
- 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:43.280
- that book about things that have
- 00:19:43.280 --> 00:19:45.040
- happened just in recent days
- 00:19:45.040 --> 00:19:46.200
- to push Christians into a corner
- 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.030
- and keep them from expressing
- 00:19:49.030 --> 00:19:51.060
- their faith.
- 00:19:51.060 --> 00:19:52.130
- I'm sure you face these things
- 00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:53.270
- even from the standpoint of what
- 00:19:53.270 --> 00:19:55.260
- people are trying to do to quiet
- 00:19:55.260 --> 00:19:58.140
- down the big voice of TBN.
- 00:19:58.140 --> 00:20:01.000
- So there's just a lot of issues,
- 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.010
- all of 'em at once and they're
- 00:20:03.010 --> 00:20:04.290
- kind of gathering as this storm.
- 00:20:04.290 --> 00:20:06.120
- And we're left in the middle
- 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:08.130
- of it, trying to ask God
- 00:20:08.130 --> 00:20:10.110
- to show--somebody asked me
- 00:20:10.110 --> 00:20:12.000
- the other day,
- 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:12.260
- "How can I pray for you?"
- 00:20:12.260 --> 00:20:15.080
- And I said, "Pray for wisdom,"
- 00:20:15.080 --> 00:20:17.030
- because you know what wisdom is?
- 00:20:17.030 --> 00:20:18.060
- Wisdom is the ability to know
- 00:20:18.060 --> 00:20:20.250
- what to do when there is no
- 00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:21.220
- precedent.
- 00:20:21.220 --> 00:20:23.000
- And there is no precedent
- 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.150
- for half the stuff you and I
- 00:20:24.150 --> 00:20:25.270
- are facing and we need wisdom
- 00:20:25.270 --> 00:20:27.130
- because we don't have
- 00:20:27.130 --> 00:20:28.220
- anything to look back on.
- 00:20:28.220 --> 00:20:29.260
- There's never been a time like
- 00:20:29.260 --> 00:20:30.290
- this in our lifetime
- 00:20:30.290 --> 00:20:32.160
- so we need God's wisdom.
- 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:34.160
- - Matt: The book is entitled,
- 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:36.170
- "People Are Asking,
- 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:37.210
- 'Is This the End?'"
- 00:20:37.210 --> 00:20:38.280
- It's Dr. David Jeremiah's
- 00:20:38.280 --> 00:20:40.170
- "New York Time"
- 00:20:40.170 --> 00:20:41.290
- number one bestseller.
- 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:43.000
- I don't know how God
- 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:44.170
- orchestrated all that but that
- 00:20:44.170 --> 00:20:46.010
- news came to us as we sat down
- 00:20:46.010 --> 00:20:47.190
- to do that interview--
- 00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:49.120
- And there's an 800-number
- 00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:52.190
- on the screen.
- 00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:54.030
- The operators are already
- 00:20:54.030 --> 00:20:56.020
- prepared to make sure that you
- 00:20:56.020 --> 00:20:57.280
- get this order very quickly,
- 00:20:57.280 --> 00:20:59.210
- very efficiently,
- 00:20:59.210 --> 00:21:00.270
- and for any gift to TBN
- 00:21:00.270 --> 00:21:02.170
- it's on its way to you.
- 00:21:02.170 --> 00:21:04.040
- And wow, what an amazing set
- 00:21:04.130 --> 00:21:07.130
- of things that had to--your
- 00:21:07.130 --> 00:21:09.260
- schedule, our schedule, you
- 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:12.140
- know, the publisher's schedule,
- 00:21:12.140 --> 00:21:13.260
- and the announcement that it is
- 00:21:13.260 --> 00:21:15.120
- now a number one "New York Time"
- 00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:16.220
- bestseller.
- 00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:18.050
- I'm not sure that's ever gonna
- 00:21:18.050 --> 00:21:19.030
- happen again, but I'm glad it
- 00:21:19.030 --> 00:21:19.290
- happened once and I'm glad it
- 00:21:19.290 --> 00:21:21.030
- happened right now.
- 00:21:21.030 --> 00:21:22.140
- You're watching the "Praise"
- 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:23.160
- program with Dr. David Jeremiah.
- 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.160
- Let's go back into
- 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:26.150
- the Appel Center
- 00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:27.040
- - male announcer: The apathy
- 00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:30.090
- of America.
- 00:21:30.090 --> 00:21:32.020
- - David: I just look up and
- 00:21:32.020 --> 00:21:33.020
- I'm reminded that every place
- 00:21:33.020 --> 00:21:35.000
- in the Bible where
- 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:35.290
- there's a prophetic passage
- 00:21:35.290 --> 00:21:37.110
- in that very context
- 00:21:37.110 --> 00:21:39.030
- is a passage of Scripture that
- 00:21:39.030 --> 00:21:40.240
- Have you ever noticed that?
- 00:21:42.280 --> 00:21:44.090
- Here's one in John 14,
- 00:21:44.090 --> 00:21:45.270
- "Let not your heart be troubled;
- 00:21:46.140 --> 00:21:49.140
- you believe in God,
- 00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:50.130
- believe also in Me.
- 00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.140
- In My Father's house are many
- 00:21:51.140 --> 00:21:52.150
- mansions; if it weren't so,
- 00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:53.250
- I'd tell you.
- 00:21:53.250 --> 00:21:55.020
- and I'm gonna go prepare a place
- 00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:55.290
- for you.
- 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:56.220
- And when I go and prepare
- 00:21:56.220 --> 00:21:57.180
- a place for you, I'm gonna come
- 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.170
- and receive you to Myself;
- 00:21:58.170 --> 00:21:59.190
- that where I am,
- 00:21:59.190 --> 00:22:00.170
- there you might be also."
- 00:22:00.170 --> 00:22:01.220
- But what is the admonition?
- 00:22:01.220 --> 00:22:03.090
- Don't let your heart be
- 00:22:03.090 --> 00:22:05.260
- troubled.
- 00:22:05.260 --> 00:22:07.060
- Almighty God's got it
- 00:22:07.060 --> 00:22:08.010
- in control, amen?
- 00:22:08.010 --> 00:22:09.050
- And over and over in the Bible,
- 00:22:09.050 --> 00:22:11.140
- when you see that, you begin to
- 00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:14.000
- realize--you begin to realize
- 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.140
- that the future is like
- 00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:16.230
- an anchor.
- 00:22:16.230 --> 00:22:17.260
- I like to think of it this way.
- 00:22:17.260 --> 00:22:19.140
- God's promises of the future
- 00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:20.250
- are like an anchor.
- 00:22:20.250 --> 00:22:21.270
- And you know where that anchor
- 00:22:21.270 --> 00:22:22.290
- is?
- 00:22:22.290 --> 00:22:23.140
- It's wrapped around the throne
- 00:22:23.140 --> 00:22:24.220
- of God in heaven.
- 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:25.190
- And I got a hold of the other
- 00:22:25.190 --> 00:22:26.180
- end of the line and I'm safe
- 00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:28.120
- because my future
- 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:29.190
- is secure in heaven.
- 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.200
- - announcer: The remedy
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- of revival.
- 00:22:34.060 --> 00:22:36.100
- - David: My thought is, "Lord,
- 00:22:36.100 --> 00:22:37.130
- if you did it once, do it again.
- 00:22:37.130 --> 00:22:39.250
- If you did it two or three
- 00:22:39.250 --> 00:22:40.220
- times, let us be the next one."
- 00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:42.140
- Because if we don't have
- 00:22:42.140 --> 00:22:43.230
- something like that happen in
- 00:22:43.230 --> 00:22:45.000
- our culture today, our ability
- 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.110
- to try to fix what's messed up
- 00:22:47.110 --> 00:22:48.290
- in this nation
- 00:22:48.290 --> 00:22:50.050
- is not gonna get it done.
- 00:22:50.050 --> 00:22:51.170
- We need an intervention, an
- 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:53.160
- intervention from Almighty God
- 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.160
- like he's intervened in times
- 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:57.050
- past in this nation.
- 00:22:57.050 --> 00:22:59.270
- We are at a place not where
- 00:22:59.270 --> 00:23:01.220
- we should despair but where
- 00:23:01.220 --> 00:23:03.040
- we should look with great
- 00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:04.060
- anticipation.
- 00:23:04.060 --> 00:23:04.290
- We're right at the place
- 00:23:04.290 --> 00:23:06.040
- where God has intervened
- 00:23:06.040 --> 00:23:07.080
- in every other time in history.
- 00:23:07.080 --> 00:23:09.160
- This is a period when God wants
- 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.010
- to move among us.
- 00:23:12.010 --> 00:23:13.210
- Start it in me, start it in you,
- 00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:15.160
- start it anywhere but, Lord God,
- 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.000
- if you don't break through
- 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.050
- into our culture, we don't have
- 00:23:18.050 --> 00:23:19.140
- any other option.
- 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:20.230
- We are confessing our sin before
- 00:23:20.230 --> 00:23:22.200
- you today and we're asking you
- 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.040
- in the words of the Psalmist,
- 00:23:24.040 --> 00:23:26.060
- "Revive us again."
- 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.160
- - Matt: "People Are Asking,
- 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:30.120
- 'Is This the End?'"
- 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:32.110
- The book is available right
- 00:23:32.110 --> 00:23:34.080
- now by calling the 800-number.
- 00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:35.260
- Okay, I have a question
- 00:23:35.260 --> 00:23:38.050
- in regard to no one in your
- 00:23:40.070 --> 00:23:43.070
- vocation would write a book that
- 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:50.190
- wasn't meant to pump hope
- 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:54.200
- into people.
- 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.070
- But this is a tough one here.
- 00:23:56.130 --> 00:23:59.130
- How in inside of this book
- 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.260
- did you get hope built
- 00:24:02.260 --> 00:24:05.220
- into people's lives?
- 00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:06.140
- How did you do that?
- 00:24:06.140 --> 00:24:07.260
- That's a masterful thing.
- 00:24:07.260 --> 00:24:09.220
- - David: Well, because
- 00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:10.170
- the Bible, while it tells
- 00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:12.090
- the truth and paints pictures
- 00:24:12.090 --> 00:24:14.260
- as they really are, the Bible
- 00:24:14.260 --> 00:24:16.240
- is never without hope.
- 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.090
- There's hope everywhere
- 00:24:18.090 --> 00:24:19.080
- in the Bible.
- 00:24:19.080 --> 00:24:20.010
- You don't have to
- 00:24:20.010 --> 00:24:20.230
- manufacture it.
- 00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:21.230
- You just have to read it
- 00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:23.030
- and discover it.
- 00:24:23.030 --> 00:24:23.290
- And, you know, I was thinking
- 00:24:23.290 --> 00:24:25.220
- about this the other day in
- 00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:27.270
- the political discourse that
- 00:24:27.270 --> 00:24:29.020
- we've had, we've had a lot of
- 00:24:29.020 --> 00:24:30.010
- discussion about people not
- 00:24:30.010 --> 00:24:31.030
- being willing to call things
- 00:24:31.030 --> 00:24:32.110
- what they are, not using the
- 00:24:32.110 --> 00:24:34.000
- word terrorism and all that,
- 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.200
- you can't really deal with
- 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.070
- the issues of life unless
- 00:24:37.070 --> 00:24:38.010
- you're willing to identify them.
- 00:24:38.010 --> 00:24:39.100
- So that book identifies some of
- 00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:40.190
- the things we're dealing with.
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- For instance, back to
- 00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:42.220
- the issue of immigration.
- 00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:46.140
- When people come across our
- 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:47.230
- borders, does the Bible
- 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:49.050
- tell us what to do?
- 00:24:49.050 --> 00:24:50.160
- Well, there isn't any chapter in
- 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.180
- the Bible called immigration but
- 00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:53.230
- in the Old Testament you have
- 00:24:53.230 --> 00:24:55.180
- this very interesting analogy.
- 00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:57.150
- There were immigrants
- 00:24:57.150 --> 00:24:58.260
- in the Old Testament.
- 00:24:58.260 --> 00:24:59.240
- They called 'em strangers.
- 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.150
- And in the Old Testament you
- 00:25:01.150 --> 00:25:03.020
- had to do three things
- 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:04.070
- with strangers.
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- You had to accept them,
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- you had to assist them,
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- and you had to assimilate them.
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- And the assimilation
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- of the strangers
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- in the Old Testament
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- is so interesting because
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- when God speaks to Israel,
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- again, especially in
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- Deuteronomy, "And this is
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- what I want for you, Israel,
- 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.260
- this and this and this.
- 00:25:21.260 --> 00:25:22.240
- And also for your strangers."
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- God held the strangers to the
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- same responsibility that he held
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- his nation, so that when
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- strangers came into Israel,
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- they were expected to live
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- under the same regime
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- as Israel was living.
- 00:25:33.280 --> 00:25:35.290
- Now you try that on
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- for immigration in our country.
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- If we did that, it wouldn't
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- be as much of an issue.
- 00:25:40.150 --> 00:25:41.050
- But what we have now, is people
- 00:25:41.050 --> 00:25:41.270
- coming into this country,
- 00:25:41.270 --> 00:25:43.170
- wanting to set up their own
- 00:25:43.170 --> 00:25:45.150
- message, their own style, some
- 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.030
- of it antithetic to what it
- 00:25:47.030 --> 00:25:49.040
- means to be an American.
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- That's why there's so much
- 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:51.210
- angst about this.
- 00:25:51.210 --> 00:25:52.200
- But you can get this great clue
- 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.070
- from the Old Testament, "Accept
- 00:25:55.070 --> 00:25:56.190
- them, assist them, but make sure
- 00:25:56.190 --> 00:25:58.170
- you assimilate them too.
- 00:25:58.170 --> 00:25:59.270
- And make sure they become--"
- 00:25:59.270 --> 00:26:01.090
- That's the way America was.
- 00:26:01.090 --> 00:26:02.210
- I mean, I'm from Wales
- 00:26:02.210 --> 00:26:04.180
- but nobody calls me
- 00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:05.200
- a Welsh American.
- 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:07.040
- I'm an American.
- 00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:08.160
- And I--and that's what's missing
- 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.120
- here in all this argument.
- 00:26:10.120 --> 00:26:13.010
- - Matt: We're talking with
- 00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:14.260
- Dr. Jeremiah.
- 00:26:14.260 --> 00:26:15.280
- New book is available right now,
- 00:26:15.280 --> 00:26:18.280
- "Is This the End?
- 00:26:18.280 --> 00:26:20.200
- People Are Asking," okay.
- 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:21.280
- You started this in chapter one
- 00:26:23.210 --> 00:26:26.210
- with a really compelling story.
- 00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:30.140
- And it was concerning the life
- 00:26:31.140 --> 00:26:34.140
- of a very famous composer.
- 00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:36.050
- Why--a little bit of that story
- 00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:38.200
- for our audience and why was
- 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.080
- that your opening lens to start
- 00:26:41.010 --> 00:26:44.010
- telling the story of this book?
- 00:26:44.010 --> 00:26:46.090
- - David: Well, you know,
- 00:26:46.090 --> 00:26:47.090
- you start where culture is
- 00:26:47.090 --> 00:26:49.040
- and that's where culture is.
- 00:26:49.040 --> 00:26:50.290
- And I told the story, Matt,
- 00:26:50.290 --> 00:26:52.020
- about Cole Porter started out by
- 00:26:52.020 --> 00:26:53.110
- talking about a couple of very
- 00:26:53.250 --> 00:26:56.250
- famous singers who sang some of
- 00:26:56.250 --> 00:26:59.140
- his music and he wrote a very
- 00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:02.090
- famous song called, "Anything
- 00:27:02.090 --> 00:27:03.150
- Goes," and it's kind of a pumpy
- 00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:05.040
- little, you know, toe-tapper.
- 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:06.250
- I've actually seen the Broadway
- 00:27:06.250 --> 00:27:08.110
- play, "Anything Goes," and
- 00:27:08.110 --> 00:27:09.180
- I kind of liked the music.
- 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:11.090
- But I never really thought
- 00:27:11.090 --> 00:27:12.160
- much about the message.
- 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:13.220
- The message in "Anything Goes"
- 00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:15.120
- was really a reflection of
- 00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:17.090
- Cole Porter's life.
- 00:27:17.090 --> 00:27:18.200
- That's the way he lived.
- 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:19.190
- Unrestrained evil and wickedness
- 00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:22.060
- and when he died, well, why
- 00:27:22.060 --> 00:27:24.040
- don't you tell 'em what you were
- 00:27:24.040 --> 00:27:25.050
- talking about when you came in?
- 00:27:25.050 --> 00:27:26.060
- - Matt: Well, what--when I was
- 00:27:26.060 --> 00:27:28.100
- telling that, we were talking
- 00:27:28.100 --> 00:27:30.030
- about a story that on his
- 00:27:30.030 --> 00:27:31.070
- deathbed, and first of all,
- 00:27:31.070 --> 00:27:33.160
- Cole Porter wrote some of the
- 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:34.260
- most famous music, you know, in
- 00:27:34.260 --> 00:27:35.290
- the whole world and, you know,
- 00:27:35.290 --> 00:27:38.000
- the likes of Frank Sinatra and
- 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.280
- those types, Tony Bennett, sang
- 00:27:40.280 --> 00:27:43.060
- this--sang his songs, Lady Gaga
- 00:27:43.060 --> 00:27:45.020
- as far as, you know,
- 00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:46.240
- kind of a modern person.
- 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.050
- And so his life was so debase,
- 00:27:49.100 --> 00:27:52.100
- that his last real deathbed wish
- 00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:57.120
- was that someone would go and
- 00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:59.090
- destroy all the pornographic
- 00:27:59.090 --> 00:28:01.100
- material in his house so that
- 00:28:01.100 --> 00:28:03.180
- he could somewhat die maybe more
- 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:05.040
- in peace.
- 00:28:05.040 --> 00:28:06.100
- And that was the way that this
- 00:28:06.100 --> 00:28:08.150
- man that wrote some of
- 00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:10.080
- the greatest music ever,
- 00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:11.100
- you know.
- 00:28:11.100 --> 00:28:12.050
- - David: And his assistant said
- 00:28:12.050 --> 00:28:13.210
- that "he lived his life like
- 00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:15.290
- a stained glass window through
- 00:28:15.290 --> 00:28:17.090
- which no light was
- 00:28:17.090 --> 00:28:18.120
- allowed to shine."
- 00:28:18.120 --> 00:28:19.290
- And I thought,
- 00:28:19.290 --> 00:28:21.030
- "What a vivid picture that is."
- 00:28:21.030 --> 00:28:22.210
- And so many people today
- 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:23.280
- live that life.
- 00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:25.250
- Well, that chapter talks about
- 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:26.280
- this little word of prophetic
- 00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:29.000
- Scripture, "As it was in
- 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.090
- the days of Noah, so shall it be
- 00:28:31.090 --> 00:28:33.210
- in the Coming of the Son
- 00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:34.250
- of Man."
- 00:28:34.250 --> 00:28:35.260
- And then you go back to Genesis
- 00:28:35.260 --> 00:28:37.160
- and it says in the days of Noah
- 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.210
- that "every man did that which
- 00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:41.150
- was only evil continually,"
- 00:28:41.150 --> 00:28:44.020
- happened in our culture today
- 00:28:47.010 --> 00:28:48.240
- where pornography has just
- 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.180
- taken over in our culture.
- 00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.080
- There are some statistics in
- 00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:53.210
- that book that, when people read
- 00:28:53.210 --> 00:28:55.120
- them, they're gonna go back
- 00:28:55.120 --> 00:28:57.140
- and read 'em two or three times
- 00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:58.140
- 'cause they're not gonna believe
- 00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:59.240
- what's going on and how it's
- 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.120
- tearing apart the very fiber
- 00:29:01.120 --> 00:29:03.090
- of our nation.
- 00:29:03.090 --> 00:29:04.120
- "Every man did that which was
- 00:29:04.120 --> 00:29:06.040
- only evil all the time," and
- 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.200
- someone said, "And now they can
- 00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.110
- put all of that on a little
- 00:29:11.110 --> 00:29:13.100
- screen that a young person can
- 00:29:13.100 --> 00:29:15.060
- carry around with them
- 00:29:15.060 --> 00:29:16.140
- And so what's happening in
- 00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:20.020
- our culture today is that
- 00:29:20.020 --> 00:29:21.140
- the "Anything goes" mentality.
- 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:24.030
- If it feels good, do it.
- 00:29:24.030 --> 00:29:25.130
- Don't worry about it.
- 00:29:25.130 --> 00:29:26.110
- Because, you see, nothing's
- 00:29:26.110 --> 00:29:28.110
- right and nothing's wrong.
- 00:29:28.110 --> 00:29:30.030
- They have kicked God
- 00:29:30.030 --> 00:29:32.100
- out of the picture.
- 00:29:32.100 --> 00:29:33.230
- He's not our creator and, if
- 00:29:33.230 --> 00:29:35.200
- he's not our creator, we don't
- 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.280
- have any responsibility to him
- 00:29:36.280 --> 00:29:38.170
- and if we're not responsible to
- 00:29:38.170 --> 00:29:39.160
- him, we can do whatever we want.
- 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:40.260
- But once you say, "In
- 00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:41.200
- the beginning, God created
- 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:42.220
- the heavens and the earth,"
- 00:29:42.220 --> 00:29:43.240
- you set the plumb line
- 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:44.260
- and everything's different.
- 00:29:44.260 --> 00:29:45.270
- If you don't believe that,
- 00:29:45.270 --> 00:29:47.120
- you're gonna have a hard time
- 00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:48.080
- with morality
- 00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:49.040
- in the rest of your life.
- 00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:50.200
- - Matt: You open the book,
- 00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.070
- the lens, you know, books are
- 00:29:52.070 --> 00:29:54.280
- like little mini movies, your
- 00:29:54.280 --> 00:29:56.000
- opening scene is the story of
- 00:29:56.010 --> 00:29:59.010
- a very debased life
- 00:29:59.010 --> 00:30:01.030
- and a tragic situation.
- 00:30:01.030 --> 00:30:03.030
- What's the good news in this
- 00:30:03.030 --> 00:30:04.240
- book?
- 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:05.280
- - David: The good news is
- 00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:06.290
- that our hope is in
- 00:30:06.290 --> 00:30:08.280
- the living Christ.
- 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:10.150
- The living Christ is the one
- 00:30:10.150 --> 00:30:12.080
- to whom we look.
- 00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:13.180
- And the Resurrection of Christ
- 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:16.130
- from the dead has put his--
- 00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:18.250
- he's put his stamp on there,
- 00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:20.270
- on what he has planned for us.
- 00:30:20.270 --> 00:30:22.230
- We don't have our hope in any of
- 00:30:22.230 --> 00:30:25.150
- the things that are going on and
- 00:30:25.150 --> 00:30:26.210
- we have to understand the Bible
- 00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:28.040
- says that Christ came not as
- 00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:31.190
- someone who wants to help those
- 00:30:31.190 --> 00:30:33.270
- who don't need help.
- 00:30:33.270 --> 00:30:35.090
- He's the great physician who
- 00:30:35.090 --> 00:30:36.110
- came for those who are sick.
- 00:30:36.110 --> 00:30:38.050
- We live in a sick world but
- 00:30:38.050 --> 00:30:39.150
- that's all the more reason
- 00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:40.230
- for us to look to Christ.
- 00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:42.020
- He's come into this world
- 00:30:42.020 --> 00:30:43.110
- through his death, burial,
- 00:30:43.110 --> 00:30:45.280
- and Resurrection and through
- 00:30:45.280 --> 00:30:46.270
- the power of the Holy Spirit, to
- 00:30:46.270 --> 00:30:47.270
- bring this sense of hope that
- 00:30:47.270 --> 00:30:50.270
- we--and when we look to him,
- 00:30:50.270 --> 00:30:52.150
- hope returns.
- 00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:54.080
- If you look to what's going
- 00:30:54.080 --> 00:30:55.120
- on in the world,
- 00:30:55.120 --> 00:30:56.070
- it's pretty discouraging.
- 00:30:56.070 --> 00:30:57.060
- I run into people a lot recently
- 00:30:57.060 --> 00:30:59.160
- who said, "Oh man, I feel if
- 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.000
- this doesn't--" Wait a minute,
- 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.130
- if you look to the wrong place,
- 00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:04.030
- you're gonna not have any hope.
- 00:31:04.030 --> 00:31:05.160
- But he's still who he's always
- 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.100
- been and he always will be.
- 00:31:07.100 --> 00:31:09.000
- And he's in charge and we're
- 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.180
- gonna see as we look back on
- 00:31:10.180 --> 00:31:12.030
- how God uses even this
- 00:31:12.030 --> 00:31:13.250
- to bring glory to his name.
- 00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:15.150
- - Matt: What do you see next
- 00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:16.060
- then?
- 00:31:16.060 --> 00:31:17.030
- Is there a revival coming?
- 00:31:17.030 --> 00:31:18.270
- - David: You know what?
- 00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:19.230
- This is a very interesting
- 00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:20.170
- question because I have some
- 00:31:20.170 --> 00:31:22.000
- pretty high profile pastors that
- 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.230
- I talk to periodically and,
- 00:31:23.230 --> 00:31:25.170
- almost without rehearsal,
- 00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:27.170
- they've all said to me that they
- 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:29.170
- have a sense in their spirit
- 00:31:29.170 --> 00:31:31.080
- that God is going to do
- 00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:32.150
- something very important
- 00:31:32.150 --> 00:31:34.150
- in the year 2017.
- 00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:36.220
- And my heart resonates with
- 00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:39.060
- that.
- 00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:40.050
- I think we're gonna get through
- 00:31:40.050 --> 00:31:41.230
- whatever it is we're going
- 00:31:41.230 --> 00:31:42.220
- through right now, then people
- 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:43.270
- are gonna--we're gonna be
- 00:31:43.270 --> 00:31:45.240
- a place where maybe God
- 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.070
- I--when I read that chapter on
- 00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:50.250
- revival and remember that during
- 00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:53.070
- the height of some of
- 00:31:53.070 --> 00:31:55.010
- the great awakenings, they were
- 00:31:55.010 --> 00:31:56.070
- closing everything down at noon
- 00:31:56.070 --> 00:31:57.230
- so everybody could go to
- 00:31:57.230 --> 00:31:59.000
- the prayer meetings in their
- 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.060
- city and that they said--one of
- 00:32:00.270 --> 00:32:03.270
- the guys who was in charge of
- 00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:06.010
- the Welsh revival, they said
- 00:32:06.010 --> 00:32:08.170
- he would walk in a room and he
- 00:32:08.170 --> 00:32:09.220
- wouldn't even say anything and
- 00:32:09.220 --> 00:32:10.250
- people would fall on their knees
- 00:32:10.250 --> 00:32:11.280
- and start to pray and ask for
- 00:32:11.280 --> 00:32:13.000
- forgiveness for their sins, just
- 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.100
- because of the anointing of God
- 00:32:16.170 --> 00:32:18.070
- was on him so strong.
- 00:32:18.070 --> 00:32:20.070
- I remember little pieces of that
- 00:32:20.070 --> 00:32:23.030
- as a young boy and seeing that
- 00:32:23.030 --> 00:32:25.210
- happen but I haven't experienced
- 00:32:25.210 --> 00:32:27.120
- that in a long time,
- 00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:28.190
- or seen it in a long time.
- 00:32:28.190 --> 00:32:30.000
- I think we're ready for that.
- 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.020
- I do believe that.
- 00:32:31.020 --> 00:32:32.120
- - Laurie: You know, my little
- 00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:33.030
- dad always, growing up, my dad
- 00:32:33.030 --> 00:32:35.040
- would always say, "Jesus
- 00:32:35.040 --> 00:32:37.100
- isn't coming back for a little
- 00:32:37.100 --> 00:32:39.020
- weak struggling
- 00:32:39.020 --> 00:32:41.100
- little fledgling church.
- 00:32:41.100 --> 00:32:43.070
- He's coming back to a victorious
- 00:32:43.070 --> 00:32:44.120
- bride, you know?
- 00:32:44.120 --> 00:32:46.060
- And there was always victory.
- 00:32:46.060 --> 00:32:47.280
- We had, as Christians and
- 00:32:47.280 --> 00:32:49.180
- believers in God,
- 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:50.160
- we are overcomers.
- 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.010
- We are more than overcomers.
- 00:32:52.010 --> 00:32:53.110
- We are victorious and that's not
- 00:32:53.110 --> 00:32:55.150
- gonna be taken away from us,
- 00:32:55.150 --> 00:32:56.260
- no matter what we face, is it?
- 00:32:56.260 --> 00:32:58.240
- - David: No, and the church,
- 00:32:58.240 --> 00:32:59.210
- you know, I told my people
- 00:32:59.210 --> 00:33:01.170
- this last weekend after some
- 00:33:01.170 --> 00:33:04.100
- very dark news had come across
- 00:33:05.100 --> 00:33:08.100
- that almost made me
- 00:33:08.100 --> 00:33:09.180
- sick to my stomach.
- 00:33:09.180 --> 00:33:11.150
- I don't know how it affected you
- 00:33:11.150 --> 00:33:12.170
- but I said, "You know, I have
- 00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:14.240
- never felt such keen excitement
- 00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:17.290
- about the role of the church
- 00:33:17.290 --> 00:33:18.270
- in the world."
- 00:33:18.270 --> 00:33:19.190
- The church is what God wants
- 00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:21.100
- to use.
- 00:33:21.100 --> 00:33:22.070
- And against the backdrop of all
- 00:33:22.070 --> 00:33:23.150
- of this wickedness that we see
- 00:33:23.150 --> 00:33:25.120
- everywhere in almost every
- 00:33:25.120 --> 00:33:26.230
- level, there is this lighthouse
- 00:33:26.230 --> 00:33:29.130
- that God has created.
- 00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:30.290
- And this lighthouse and--we need
- 00:33:30.290 --> 00:33:33.050
- to put our energy into that
- 00:33:33.050 --> 00:33:34.090
- because that's the tool
- 00:33:34.090 --> 00:33:35.170
- God is gonna use.
- 00:33:35.170 --> 00:33:36.170
- He said, "I will build my church
- 00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:37.230
- and the gates of hell
- 00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:38.260
- shall not prevail against it."
- 00:33:38.260 --> 00:33:40.170
- The gates of hell were knocking
- 00:33:40.170 --> 00:33:41.260
- on the door this last week but
- 00:33:41.260 --> 00:33:44.000
- they didn't win and they won't
- 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.190
- win and, you know, even though
- 00:33:45.190 --> 00:33:47.100
- I've been doing this for a long
- 00:33:47.100 --> 00:33:48.140
- time, I've been in this church
- 00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:49.210
- for 35 years, I came back and I
- 00:33:49.210 --> 00:33:51.250
- don't think I've ever been more
- 00:33:51.250 --> 00:33:53.120
- excited about what God wants to
- 00:33:53.120 --> 00:33:54.230
- do through his church as you
- 00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:56.190
- said, Laurie, during this time
- 00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:58.000
- because they're running out
- 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.220
- of answers.
- 00:34:02.220 --> 00:34:03.180
- - Laurie: I know you love
- 00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:04.230
- Israel.
- 00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:06.200
- Talk about the isolation of
- 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.170
- Israel and kind of
- 00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:10.010
- what's happening over there.
- 00:34:10.010 --> 00:34:11.230
- - David: Well, in this book
- 00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:12.180
- I do a whole chapter on
- 00:34:12.180 --> 00:34:14.050
- the Abrahamic covenant and
- 00:34:14.050 --> 00:34:15.080
- what God promised Israel.
- 00:34:15.080 --> 00:34:16.170
- I love to tell people, you know,
- 00:34:16.170 --> 00:34:17.250
- I know the answer to the land
- 00:34:17.250 --> 00:34:19.090
- issue and Israel.
- 00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:20.130
- God gave it all to Israel.
- 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:21.290
- I mean, there shouldn't be
- 00:34:21.290 --> 00:34:23.170
- a fight over that.
- 00:34:23.170 --> 00:34:24.180
- Let's just get over that one
- 00:34:24.180 --> 00:34:25.150
- and get on to the next issue.
- 00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:27.010
- But I love Israel and I tell
- 00:34:27.180 --> 00:34:30.180
- a story in this book about
- 00:34:30.180 --> 00:34:32.020
- a privilege I had when
- 00:34:32.020 --> 00:34:33.260
- I was there the last time.
- 00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:35.180
- We had a whole lot of folks with
- 00:34:35.180 --> 00:34:37.100
- us and we couldn't house them
- 00:34:37.100 --> 00:34:38.280
- all in the same communities.
- 00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.130
- So we had some of them in
- 00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:41.260
- Herzliya and some in Tiberias.
- 00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:43.080
- And my tour director told me I
- 00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:45.070
- had to speak to both of them on
- 00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:46.110
- the same night and I said, "How
- 00:34:46.110 --> 00:34:47.220
- am I gonna do that?"
- 00:34:47.220 --> 00:34:48.190
- He said, "We have a helicopter."
- 00:34:48.190 --> 00:34:49.290
- Well, I wasn't too crazy about
- 00:34:49.290 --> 00:34:51.180
- flying a helicopter around in
- 00:34:51.180 --> 00:34:52.240
- Israel but I flew that
- 00:34:52.240 --> 00:34:53.250
- helicopter with my friends back
- 00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:55.150
- across the nation.
- 00:34:55.150 --> 00:34:56.280
- One of the most moving
- 00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.270
- experiences I've ever had.
- 00:34:59.270 --> 00:35:01.130
- I felt like I was hovering over
- 00:35:01.130 --> 00:35:03.240
- holy ground and I saw that land
- 00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:07.050
- and its borders and I realized
- 00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:09.130
- the Bible says God loves Israel
- 00:35:09.130 --> 00:35:11.190
- so much that his eye is on the
- 00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:13.210
- land from morning 'til night
- 00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:15.040
- every day.
- 00:35:15.040 --> 00:35:16.150
- It's God's place.
- 00:35:16.150 --> 00:35:17.270
- And you know, we've messed up
- 00:35:17.270 --> 00:35:19.040
- pretty badly with our
- 00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:20.120
- relationship with Israel as a
- 00:35:20.120 --> 00:35:21.250
- nation and we've paid for it and
- 00:35:21.250 --> 00:35:23.020
- we'll continue to pay for it
- 00:35:23.020 --> 00:35:24.220
- because the Bible says God is
- 00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:27.020
- going to bless those who bless
- 00:35:27.020 --> 00:35:28.140
- Israel and he's gonna curse
- 00:35:28.140 --> 00:35:29.220
- those who curse Israel.
- 00:35:29.220 --> 00:35:31.080
- If you don't like Israel for
- 00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:33.030
- any other reason, be pragmatic.
- 00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:34.230
- Just say, I'd rather be blessed
- 00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:36.050
- than cursed," and so I am--I
- 00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:40.030
- speak with John Hagee, with the
- 00:35:40.030 --> 00:35:41.290
- - Matt: Christians United For
- 00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:46.250
- Israel.
- 00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:47.110
- - David: Yeah, I've done two of
- 00:35:47.110 --> 00:35:48.030
- their events, some of the most
- 00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:49.030
- thrilling things I've ever had
- 00:35:49.030 --> 00:35:50.060
- the chance to do.
- 00:35:50.060 --> 00:35:51.070
- Take people to Israel as often
- 00:35:51.070 --> 00:35:52.230
- as I can.
- 00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:53.210
- My most visual memory was my
- 00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:56.100
- last time there.
- 00:35:56.100 --> 00:35:58.090
- I was preaching on the Southern
- 00:35:58.090 --> 00:35:59.150
- Steps and we were getting ready
- 00:35:59.150 --> 00:36:01.000
- to pull everything together
- 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.140
- and get to the airport.
- 00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:04.090
- And I got done preaching and I
- 00:36:04.090 --> 00:36:06.030
- was walking out and this old
- 00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:07.180
- lady was sitting over there
- 00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:09.160
- and she summoned to me.
- 00:36:09.160 --> 00:36:10.290
- And the security people said,
- 00:36:10.290 --> 00:36:12.100
- "Don't go over there."
- 00:36:12.100 --> 00:36:13.080
- I said, "No, I'm gonna go talk
- 00:36:13.080 --> 00:36:13.290
- to her."
- 00:36:13.290 --> 00:36:14.210
- So I went over and she said,
- 00:36:14.210 --> 00:36:15.200
- "Mister, I heard what you said
- 00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:17.100
- today about how much you love
- 00:36:17.100 --> 00:36:18.260
- Israel."
- 00:36:18.260 --> 00:36:19.290
- She said, "Don't ever stop
- 00:36:19.290 --> 00:36:21.150
- saying that 'cause you
- 00:36:21.150 --> 00:36:23.030
- evangelicals, I think you may be
- 00:36:23.030 --> 00:36:24.210
- the only ones that still love
- 00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:25.290
- us."
- 00:36:25.290 --> 00:36:27.070
- And I came away with
- 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:28.180
- the realization that not only do
- 00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:30.180
- we have to believe in Israel in
- 00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:32.000
- our hearts, we have to vocally
- 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.140
- support them and encourage
- 00:36:33.140 --> 00:36:34.280
- others to do the same.
- 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.060
- - Matt: We are sitting with
- 00:36:36.060 --> 00:36:37.060
- Dr. David Jeremiah.
- 00:36:37.060 --> 00:36:39.120
- His new book is "People Are
- 00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:41.050
- Asking, 'Is This the End?'"
- 00:36:41.050 --> 00:36:43.080
- We have coordinated with
- 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:45.010
- the publisher, Dr. Jeremiah's
- 00:36:45.010 --> 00:36:47.080
- ministry, TBN, to make it
- 00:36:47.080 --> 00:36:49.170
- available to you by dialing that
- 00:36:49.170 --> 00:36:51.070
- number that's on the screen,
- 00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:52.190
- the 800-number.
- 00:36:52.190 --> 00:36:54.010
- And everyone's prepared
- 00:36:56.080 --> 00:36:58.050
- for that.
- 00:36:58.050 --> 00:36:58.270
- I love doing these.
- 00:36:58.270 --> 00:37:00.020
- This is, as we sat down, we got
- 00:37:01.130 --> 00:37:04.130
- word that this now is the number
- 00:37:04.130 --> 00:37:06.230
- one "New York Times" bestseller.
- 00:37:06.230 --> 00:37:08.180
- Congratulations, Dr. Jeremiah.
- 00:37:08.180 --> 00:37:11.010
- And that's a thrilling thing
- 00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:12.140
- that all of it coordinated and
- 00:37:12.140 --> 00:37:14.190
- that announcement came about
- 00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:18.110
- the minute that we walked in
- 00:37:18.110 --> 00:37:19.260
- to sit down in this little room
- 00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:21.230
- to do this interview.
- 00:37:21.230 --> 00:37:23.060
- And the book is available.
- 00:37:23.060 --> 00:37:24.190
- We want you to have it.
- 00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:25.170
- It is for you.
- 00:37:25.170 --> 00:37:27.100
- "Is This the End?"
- 00:37:27.100 --> 00:37:29.230
- and the hope of Jesus is
- 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.060
- permeating in this book.
- 00:37:31.060 --> 00:37:32.240
- Okay, it's available.
- 00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:34.180
- Go to your phone.
- 00:37:34.180 --> 00:37:36.230
- Russia.
- 00:37:37.210 --> 00:37:40.210
- Jump off that one word.
- 00:37:40.210 --> 00:37:42.290
- Russia.
- 00:37:42.290 --> 00:37:44.040
- What do we need to think
- 00:37:44.040 --> 00:37:45.000
- about that?
- 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:45.190
- - David: Well, you know, I
- 00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:46.110
- don't know about you, I thought
- 00:37:46.110 --> 00:37:47.120
- we were done with Russia,
- 00:37:47.120 --> 00:37:48.250
- you know?
- 00:37:48.250 --> 00:37:49.210
- the dissipation of
- 00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:54.120
- the Soviet Union but Russia's
- 00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:56.180
- back and everybody wonders,
- 00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:58.140
- you know, how did that happen?
- 00:37:58.140 --> 00:38:00.140
- Well, the interesting thing
- 00:38:00.140 --> 00:38:01.220
- about Russia is it is the most
- 00:38:01.220 --> 00:38:03.220
- prophesied nation in the Bible.
- 00:38:03.220 --> 00:38:05.290
- If you go to Ezekiel 38 and 39,
- 00:38:05.290 --> 00:38:07.270
- those two chapters tell
- 00:38:07.270 --> 00:38:10.000
- everything that's gonna happen
- 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.260
- with the king of the North,
- 00:38:11.260 --> 00:38:13.020
- with Russia, in more detail
- 00:38:13.020 --> 00:38:14.120
- than any other prophecy
- 00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:15.140
- that you will find.
- 00:38:15.140 --> 00:38:16.280
- It is the most--it's the most
- 00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:20.040
- intimate detail of war in
- 00:38:20.040 --> 00:38:22.100
- the Bible and it tells the story
- 00:38:22.100 --> 00:38:24.200
- of how, in the end times,
- 00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:25.160
- Russia's gonna have a coalition
- 00:38:25.160 --> 00:38:27.100
- and it actually names the
- 00:38:27.100 --> 00:38:28.120
- nation: Iran, some nations out
- 00:38:28.120 --> 00:38:31.000
- of Turkey, perhaps parts of--and
- 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.160
- they're gonna come together and
- 00:38:33.160 --> 00:38:35.210
- go after Israel to destroy them.
- 00:38:35.210 --> 00:38:37.130
- And Israel is--the Bible says
- 00:38:37.130 --> 00:38:39.040
- they're gonna be living in
- 00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:40.060
- unwalled villages because they
- 00:38:40.060 --> 00:38:42.040
- will have signed a covenant with
- 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:43.110
- the Antichrist that he's gonna
- 00:38:43.110 --> 00:38:44.230
- take care of 'em so they quit
- 00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:45.280
- worrying about their defense
- 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.070
- and start doing everything
- 00:38:47.070 --> 00:38:48.270
- to build their economy.
- 00:38:48.270 --> 00:38:50.100
- So they're living without
- 00:38:50.100 --> 00:38:51.270
- protection and here comes this
- 00:38:51.270 --> 00:38:53.130
- coalition of armies from
- 00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:54.290
- the North.
- 00:38:54.290 --> 00:38:56.060
- Russia's leading the way.
- 00:38:56.060 --> 00:38:57.270
- And it looks like
- 00:38:57.270 --> 00:38:59.200
- Israel is dead meat.
- 00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.160
- I mean, when you read this,
- 00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:02.180
- it looks like there is no way
- 00:39:02.180 --> 00:39:03.240
- they can recover.
- 00:39:03.240 --> 00:39:04.250
- They're coming from every side.
- 00:39:04.250 --> 00:39:06.150
- And then God intervenes.
- 00:39:06.150 --> 00:39:08.170
- And God intervenes and the Bible
- 00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:10.280
- says to show himself strong and
- 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.160
- to protect the glory of God.
- 00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:13.290
- And God decimates this army.
- 00:39:13.290 --> 00:39:16.110
- In fact, the whole 39th chapter
- 00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:18.170
- is the discussion of what
- 00:39:18.170 --> 00:39:20.130
- it took to clean up the mess
- 00:39:20.130 --> 00:39:22.030
- after this war.
- 00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:23.190
- And how God demonstrated
- 00:39:23.190 --> 00:39:25.200
- absolutely that he is the God of
- 00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:29.190
- Israel and he is the God in whom
- 00:39:29.190 --> 00:39:31.190
- they should trust.
- 00:39:31.190 --> 00:39:32.160
- It's almost like what we were
- 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:33.270
- talking about with revival
- 00:39:33.270 --> 00:39:35.020
- when all other hope is gone,
- 00:39:35.020 --> 00:39:36.130
- God shows up and he's strong.
- 00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:39.180
- And so the nation of Russia
- 00:39:39.180 --> 00:39:41.070
- is pretty well defined
- 00:39:41.070 --> 00:39:42.240
- in those chapters.
- 00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:43.200
- - Matt: How far off are we
- 00:39:43.200 --> 00:39:45.180
- from Ezekiel 38, 39?
- 00:39:45.180 --> 00:39:47.170
- - David: Well, you know,
- 00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:48.250
- there's some discussion about
- 00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:49.210
- where that fits in
- 00:39:49.210 --> 00:39:50.180
- the prophetic scheme.
- 00:39:50.180 --> 00:39:51.130
- My personal belief is that
- 00:39:51.130 --> 00:39:53.060
- it happens toward the end of
- 00:39:53.060 --> 00:39:55.100
- our period of time before
- 00:39:55.100 --> 00:39:56.230
- the Rapture takes place and, you
- 00:39:56.230 --> 00:39:58.090
- know, what was it, 5 years ago,
- 00:39:58.090 --> 00:40:01.000
- you would not have thought
- 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.170
- that Russia would even have
- 00:40:02.170 --> 00:40:03.160
- any conversation with Iran.
- 00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:05.070
- And now they're best of buddies.
- 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:06.270
- They were like this...now
- 00:40:06.270 --> 00:40:08.200
- they're friends and they're
- 00:40:08.200 --> 00:40:09.180
- sending equipment to each other
- 00:40:09.180 --> 00:40:11.010
- and helping each other.
- 00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:12.050
- So kind of interesting to watch.
- 00:40:12.180 --> 00:40:15.180
- - Laurie: ISIS.
- 00:40:15.180 --> 00:40:16.220
- - David: Well, you know, that's
- 00:40:16.220 --> 00:40:18.290
- the only program we didn't put
- 00:40:18.290 --> 00:40:20.290
- on television and on the radio
- 00:40:20.290 --> 00:40:22.260
- 'cause we knew that they
- 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:24.040
- wouldn't run it.
- 00:40:24.040 --> 00:40:25.280
- So--it's so--and one of
- 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.240
- the things that's so interesting
- 00:40:27.240 --> 00:40:30.090
- to me is I ask people all over
- 00:40:30.090 --> 00:40:31.060
- the country, "Tell me what
- 00:40:31.060 --> 00:40:32.150
- does the word ISIS mean?"
- 00:40:32.150 --> 00:40:33.210
- And hardly anybody knows.
- 00:40:33.210 --> 00:40:35.240
- They don't know it's the Islamic
- 00:40:35.240 --> 00:40:36.270
- State of Iraq and Syria."
- 00:40:36.270 --> 00:40:39.170
- And ISIS in one small sentence,
- 00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:42.230
- Laurie, is defined by the fact
- 00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:45.020
- that it is an eschatology
- 00:40:45.020 --> 00:40:47.100
- in action.
- 00:40:47.100 --> 00:40:49.060
- They believe that all of their
- 00:40:49.060 --> 00:40:50.140
- wickedness and jihad is going
- 00:40:50.170 --> 00:40:53.170
- to bring back their messiah,
- 00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:55.130
- the 12th--they believe that he
- 00:40:55.130 --> 00:40:57.160
- can only come back when there's
- 00:40:57.160 --> 00:40:58.160
- total foment and chaos.
- 00:40:58.160 --> 00:41:00.080
- And so what they're doing,
- 00:41:00.080 --> 00:41:01.270
- they believe is being done
- 00:41:01.270 --> 00:41:03.200
- to bring back their messiah.
- 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.120
- That's why there is nothing you
- 00:41:05.120 --> 00:41:06.070
- can do to reason with them.
- 00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:08.130
- I tell people, "Don't try
- 00:41:08.130 --> 00:41:09.170
- to reason with ISIS 'cause
- 00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:10.250
- the only thing you have
- 00:41:10.250 --> 00:41:11.270
- that they want is your life.
- 00:41:11.270 --> 00:41:13.210
- You don't have anything that
- 00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:14.140
- they want."
- 00:41:14.140 --> 00:41:15.130
- What they want is to kill
- 00:41:15.130 --> 00:41:17.100
- as many people as they can, chop
- 00:41:17.100 --> 00:41:18.200
- off as many heads as they can,
- 00:41:18.200 --> 00:41:20.220
- and create foment and chaos
- 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:23.260
- because they believe that it's
- 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:25.120
- only when they do that that
- 00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:27.050
- their mahdi, their 12th mahdi,
- 00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:29.170
- their messiah, will come back.
- 00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:31.000
- So when you realize that,
- 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.260
- now you realize why
- 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:34.290
- they're willing to do anything.
- 00:41:34.290 --> 00:41:36.030
- They don't care.
- 00:41:36.030 --> 00:41:37.070
- Life is unimportant to them
- 00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:38.110
- 'cause whatever they're doing,
- 00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:39.120
- they're gonna bring their
- 00:41:39.120 --> 00:41:42.000
- messiah back by their total
- 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.140
- destruction of everybody
- 00:41:43.140 --> 00:41:45.260
- in their wake.
- 00:41:45.260 --> 00:41:46.190
- - Matt: Okay, in case nobody
- 00:41:46.190 --> 00:41:47.140
- So we need some good news now.
- 00:41:50.070 --> 00:41:51.080
- So just in case somebody was
- 00:41:51.080 --> 00:41:52.150
- getting all anxious.
- 00:41:53.020 --> 00:41:56.020
- Good news inside of this book
- 00:41:56.020 --> 00:41:58.110
- is what?
- 00:41:58.110 --> 00:41:59.080
- - David: The good news inside
- 00:41:59.080 --> 00:42:00.200
- of this book is on the byline of
- 00:42:00.200 --> 00:42:02.080
- the cover.
- 00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:03.060
- It says, "God's Providence in a
- 00:42:03.060 --> 00:42:04.220
- Disturbing New World."
- 00:42:04.220 --> 00:42:06.250
- When you see all of these
- 00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:08.140
- things--I haven't left out
- 00:42:08.140 --> 00:42:10.070
- the good part.
- 00:42:10.070 --> 00:42:11.090
- The good part is God is there.
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- He's there in every situation.
- 00:42:13.080 --> 00:42:15.090
- Just like you, just like when
- 00:42:15.090 --> 00:42:18.070
- I went through cancer.
- 00:42:18.070 --> 00:42:19.040
- I mean, that's really bad news.
- 00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:20.170
- But that cancer drew me closer
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- to the Lord because I saw God
- 00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:24.240
- in the midst of that like
- 00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:26.040
- I could never have seen him.
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- During these times that are
- 00:42:27.180 --> 00:42:28.190
- coming, during the things that
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- are happening, God is always
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- at work.
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- For instance, in the immigration
- 00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:33.080
- problem, guess what?
- 00:42:33.080 --> 00:42:34.130
- are coming to faith in Christ
- 00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:37.290
- because they've been pushed into
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- a border where there are
- 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:40.030
- all these Hispanic churches,
- 00:42:40.030 --> 00:42:41.180
- like your friend that you have
- 00:42:41.180 --> 00:42:43.220
- on here a lot, Sammy Rodriguez.
- 00:42:43.220 --> 00:42:46.050
- They're winning these people
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- to Christ.
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- Let me ask you.
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- Would it be better to stay in
- 00:42:49.240 --> 00:42:51.080
- the land where you were and
- 00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:52.270
- be lost or immigrate into
- 00:42:52.270 --> 00:42:54.100
- a land where you may not even
- 00:42:54.100 --> 00:42:55.220
- wanna--may not should be
- 00:42:55.220 --> 00:42:57.140
- and be saved?
- 00:42:57.140 --> 00:42:58.270
- I'm saying when we--if we could
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- see this from God's perspective,
- 00:43:01.070 --> 00:43:03.020
- we'd see a much different
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- situation.
- 00:43:03.290 --> 00:43:05.110
- We'd see the darkness,
- 00:43:05.110 --> 00:43:06.170
- all right, but we would
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- see the darkness
- 00:43:08.160 --> 00:43:09.260
- setting out the light.
- 00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:11.130
- And that's the way it is in my
- 00:43:11.130 --> 00:43:12.210
- life, it's in your life.
- 00:43:12.210 --> 00:43:14.070
- Sometimes, when things are
- 00:43:14.070 --> 00:43:15.080
- tough, you think, "God,
- 00:43:15.080 --> 00:43:16.010
- what are you up to?"
- 00:43:16.010 --> 00:43:16.260
- And then, you know,
- 00:43:16.260 --> 00:43:18.230
- as I mentioned before,
- 00:43:18.230 --> 00:43:19.180
- providence is read backwards.
- 00:43:19.180 --> 00:43:20.290
- When you look back, you see,
- 00:43:20.290 --> 00:43:22.090
- "Oh, so that's what you were
- 00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:23.060
- up to?"
- 00:43:23.060 --> 00:43:24.000
- And that's what this book
- 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.100
- is about.
- 00:43:25.100 --> 00:43:26.060
- It's about how God is always in
- 00:43:26.060 --> 00:43:28.010
- the midst of the situation yet
- 00:43:28.010 --> 00:43:29.120
- it's a very honest book about
- 00:43:29.120 --> 00:43:31.160
- the issues we face as a culture.
- 00:43:31.160 --> 00:43:34.010
- - Matt: It's available right
- 00:43:34.010 --> 00:43:35.040
- now by dialing the 800-number
- 00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:36.130
- on your screen.
- 00:43:36.130 --> 00:43:37.140
- All the operators
- 00:43:37.140 --> 00:43:38.210
- are standing by.
- 00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:39.180
- And as we sat down for this
- 00:43:39.180 --> 00:43:41.130
- interview, it was a number one
- 00:43:41.130 --> 00:43:43.090
- "New York Time" bestseller.
- 00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:45.080
- We just got that news.
- 00:43:45.080 --> 00:43:46.080
- Let's go back to
- 00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:47.290
- the Appel Center right there
- 00:43:47.290 --> 00:43:48.240
- in New York City.
- 00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:49.150
- Beautiful venue.
- 00:43:49.150 --> 00:43:50.110
- Pastor Jeremiah.
- 00:43:50.110 --> 00:43:52.140
- - announcer: The isolation of
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- Israel.
- 00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:55.020
- - David: Ezekiel said one day
- 00:43:55.020 --> 00:43:56.050
- Almighty God would speak to
- 00:43:56.050 --> 00:43:57.280
- these bones and they would start
- 00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.150
- to come together and the nation
- 00:43:59.150 --> 00:44:01.020
- of Israel would arise and they'd
- 00:44:01.020 --> 00:44:02.180
- come out of the graves of
- 00:44:02.180 --> 00:44:04.000
- the nations, in terms, out of
- 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.180
- the nations themselves and
- 00:44:05.180 --> 00:44:06.150
- regather in the land and Israel
- 00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:08.260
- would be reconstituted
- 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:10.110
- as a nation.
- 00:44:10.110 --> 00:44:11.170
- And we have lived in our
- 00:44:11.170 --> 00:44:13.040
- lifetime to see that happen
- 00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:14.090
- in 1948.
- 00:44:14.090 --> 00:44:16.010
- and Israel was established
- 00:44:18.140 --> 00:44:19.280
- as a nation.
- 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.140
- I'm absolutely convinced that
- 00:44:21.140 --> 00:44:23.190
- one of the reasons why, since
- 00:44:23.190 --> 00:44:25.070
- 1948, we had such incredible
- 00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:27.160
- years of blessing in this
- 00:44:27.160 --> 00:44:28.290
- nation, was because we put our
- 00:44:28.290 --> 00:44:30.290
- arms around that young nation
- 00:44:30.290 --> 00:44:32.270
- and helped them get established.
- 00:44:32.270 --> 00:44:35.000
- As long as I have breath
- 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:36.190
- and opportunity, I'm gonna be
- 00:44:36.190 --> 00:44:38.120
- a champion for the nation of
- 00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:40.100
- Israel because I believe
- 00:44:40.100 --> 00:44:41.220
- that's God's purpose
- 00:44:41.220 --> 00:44:43.000
- in this world today.
- 00:44:43.060 --> 00:44:46.060
- - announcer: The resurrection
- 00:44:46.060 --> 00:44:47.110
- of Russia.
- 00:44:47.110 --> 00:44:48.230
- - David: If you go to the Book
- 00:44:48.230 --> 00:44:50.080
- of Daniel, you will read about
- 00:44:50.080 --> 00:44:52.150
- a person who is called
- 00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.200
- the king of the North.
- 00:44:55.190 --> 00:44:58.190
- So if he's the king of
- 00:44:58.190 --> 00:44:59.180
- the North, what does that mean?
- 00:44:59.180 --> 00:45:01.100
- He's the king of
- 00:45:01.100 --> 00:45:02.140
- the North of Israel.
- 00:45:02.140 --> 00:45:04.210
- And if you take out a pen and
- 00:45:04.210 --> 00:45:07.030
- get a map and you just draw
- 00:45:07.030 --> 00:45:08.200
- a straight line from Israel to
- 00:45:08.200 --> 00:45:10.150
- the extreme North, there's only
- 00:45:10.150 --> 00:45:12.070
- one place you're gonna end up
- 00:45:12.070 --> 00:45:13.030
- and that's Russia.
- 00:45:13.030 --> 00:45:15.050
- And the victory that God wins on
- 00:45:15.120 --> 00:45:18.120
- the most astounding thing that
- 00:45:20.040 --> 00:45:21.110
- has ever happened on this earth.
- 00:45:21.110 --> 00:45:23.100
- And God himself
- 00:45:23.100 --> 00:45:25.010
- will get the glory.
- 00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:26.260
- And there will be no doubt about
- 00:45:26.260 --> 00:45:27.250
- who saved Israel.
- 00:45:29.020 --> 00:45:32.020
- It's almost like God takes every
- 00:45:32.020 --> 00:45:33.150
- weapon out of the hands of
- 00:45:33.150 --> 00:45:35.230
- the Israeli people, puts them in
- 00:45:35.230 --> 00:45:37.150
- the most defenseless position
- 00:45:37.150 --> 00:45:39.120
- they could be in so that none
- 00:45:39.120 --> 00:45:40.230
- of 'em can stand up and say,
- 00:45:40.230 --> 00:45:42.090
- "Look what we did."
- 00:45:42.090 --> 00:45:43.130
- No, you didn't do anything.
- 00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:44.160
- You just stood there and God
- 00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:45.170
- came in and he won the war
- 00:45:45.170 --> 00:45:46.170
- for you or you wouldn't
- 00:45:46.170 --> 00:45:47.250
- be alive today.
- 00:45:47.250 --> 00:45:48.260
- And how many of you know that's
- 00:45:48.260 --> 00:45:50.020
- the way it is for all of us,
- 00:45:50.020 --> 00:45:51.020
- isn't it?
- 00:45:51.020 --> 00:45:51.230
- I've often thought, "God likes
- 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:52.180
- to get us at the end of
- 00:45:52.180 --> 00:45:53.200
- ourselves where we don't have
- 00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:54.240
- anything we can do so that when
- 00:45:54.240 --> 00:45:55.270
- he does it he's the only one
- 00:45:55.270 --> 00:45:57.140
- who can get the credit."
- 00:45:57.140 --> 00:45:59.180
- - Laurie: I just wanna mention
- 00:45:59.180 --> 00:46:00.150
- this beautiful little book.
- 00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:02.150
- Okay, tell me, this is a kids'
- 00:46:02.150 --> 00:46:03.270
- study Bible, first one in, like,
- 00:46:03.270 --> 00:46:06.260
- 20 years.
- 00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:07.220
- - David: Yeah, it's
- 00:46:07.220 --> 00:46:08.110
- the first--they tell me it's
- 00:46:08.110 --> 00:46:09.070
- the first kids' study Bible to
- 00:46:09.070 --> 00:46:10.150
- be produced in 20 years.
- 00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:11.150
- - Laurie: Isn't that amazing?
- 00:46:11.150 --> 00:46:12.150
- And what do you do--what do you
- 00:46:12.150 --> 00:46:13.150
- do with this one?
- 00:46:13.150 --> 00:46:14.170
- - David: Well, there's just all
- 00:46:14.170 --> 00:46:15.120
- kinds of really cool things in
- 00:46:15.120 --> 00:46:16.130
- there.
- 00:46:16.130 --> 00:46:17.020
- We had a artist come in and
- 00:46:17.020 --> 00:46:18.040
- create characters.
- 00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:19.020
- It's called "Airship Genesis"
- 00:46:19.020 --> 00:46:21.090
- and these characters get on
- 00:46:21.090 --> 00:46:22.170
- their little spaceship and they
- 00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:23.240
- travel and they--their first
- 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:24.290
- landing might be in, like,
- 00:46:24.290 --> 00:46:26.050
- in the Garden of Eden and then
- 00:46:26.050 --> 00:46:27.160
- we tell the whole Bible story
- 00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:29.140
- of the Garden of Eden.
- 00:46:29.140 --> 00:46:30.120
- And there are characters
- 00:46:30.120 --> 00:46:31.180
- who talk.
- 00:46:31.180 --> 00:46:32.240
- There's a podcast that come--
- 00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:34.180
- that's available and that you
- 00:46:34.180 --> 00:46:35.170
- can download when you get
- 00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:36.150
- the Bible.
- 00:46:36.150 --> 00:46:37.160
- It's very interactive.
- 00:46:37.160 --> 00:46:38.220
- Things for parents to use to
- 00:46:38.220 --> 00:46:39.280
- help their kids get excited
- 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.030
- about the Scripture.
- 00:46:41.030 --> 00:46:42.160
- And, you know, we believe
- 00:46:42.170 --> 00:46:45.170
- with all of our heart that
- 00:46:45.170 --> 00:46:46.190
- the answers are in God's Word.
- 00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:48.220
- But they're not just answers
- 00:46:48.220 --> 00:46:49.220
- for big people; they're answers
- 00:46:49.220 --> 00:46:52.010
- for little people too.
- 00:46:52.010 --> 00:46:53.230
- And we wanted to do something to
- 00:46:53.230 --> 00:46:54.220
- help--I kinda feel like
- 00:46:54.220 --> 00:46:57.120
- who's gonna buy those
- 00:46:57.120 --> 00:46:58.290
- are grandparents, you know?
- 00:46:58.290 --> 00:47:00.220
- They're gonna buy them for their
- 00:47:00.220 --> 00:47:01.240
- grandchildren and get them--make
- 00:47:01.240 --> 00:47:03.090
- sure that they have a copy of
- 00:47:03.090 --> 00:47:04.150
- the Scripture.
- 00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:05.130
- And it is a study Bible.
- 00:47:05.130 --> 00:47:06.090
- It's the entire Bible,
- 00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:07.160
- lots of character sketches,
- 00:47:07.160 --> 00:47:09.130
- little stories for the kids to
- 00:47:09.130 --> 00:47:11.020
- understand, beautiful artwork.
- 00:47:11.020 --> 00:47:12.190
- It's very compelling.
- 00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:14.190
- Somebody who was at
- 00:47:14.190 --> 00:47:16.150
- the publisher said,
- 00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:17.150
- "The introductions to these
- 00:47:17.150 --> 00:47:19.150
- books are better than the ones
- 00:47:19.150 --> 00:47:20.140
- in the big Bible.
- 00:47:20.140 --> 00:47:21.210
- I go there and read those when
- 00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:22.220
- I'm getting ready to study
- 00:47:22.220 --> 00:47:23.150
- a book."
- 00:47:23.150 --> 00:47:24.050
- So that's what we hoped would
- 00:47:24.050 --> 00:47:25.240
- happen and we believe God
- 00:47:25.240 --> 00:47:27.140
- is gonna really use this.
- 00:47:27.140 --> 00:47:28.290
- He always uses his Word and we
- 00:47:28.290 --> 00:47:30.270
- think his Word for kids is a
- 00:47:30.270 --> 00:47:32.200
- pretty great thing.
- 00:47:32.200 --> 00:47:33.230
- - Matt: Beautiful.
- 00:47:33.230 --> 00:47:34.200
- In addition to the Kids' Study
- 00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:36.230
- Dr. Jeremiah who is now got one
- 00:47:38.290 --> 00:47:41.170
- more thing to add to your bio,
- 00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:44.150
- by the way,
- 00:47:44.150 --> 00:47:45.120
- you need to update it.
- 00:47:45.120 --> 00:47:46.060
- This is a "New York Time"
- 00:47:46.060 --> 00:47:47.180
- number one bestseller.
- 00:47:47.180 --> 00:47:49.020
- It is "People Are Asking,
- 00:47:49.020 --> 00:47:51.020
- 'Is This the End?'"
- 00:47:51.020 --> 00:47:53.000
- And one of the things that
- 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.030
- is really about this book that
- 00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:57.200
- we've been discussing on this
- 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.270
- entire project, is really that
- 00:47:58.270 --> 00:48:01.190
- you want to tell the truth and
- 00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:05.090
- you don't want to shrink away
- 00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:07.150
- from telling the truth
- 00:48:07.150 --> 00:48:09.160
- about many problems and ills
- 00:48:09.160 --> 00:48:11.180
- in our modern society.
- 00:48:11.180 --> 00:48:13.240
- But, at the same time,
- 00:48:13.240 --> 00:48:14.150
- it's very hope-filled.
- 00:48:14.150 --> 00:48:15.190
- And if there is another minute
- 00:48:15.190 --> 00:48:18.130
- in another day and if this day
- 00:48:18.130 --> 00:48:20.190
- continues to tick along
- 00:48:20.190 --> 00:48:22.280
- we have another opportunity to
- 00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:27.130
- do what Christ has called us all
- 00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:29.070
- to do, which is souls.
- 00:48:29.070 --> 00:48:31.070
- So take an opportunity now,
- 00:48:31.070 --> 00:48:33.020
- Dr. Jeremiah.
- 00:48:33.020 --> 00:48:34.140
- Your--you have breath
- 00:48:34.140 --> 00:48:36.030
- in your lungs.
- 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:37.010
- We have lights, camera, action.
- 00:48:37.010 --> 00:48:38.250
- We have satellites connected
- 00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:40.010
- to this broadcast.
- 00:48:40.010 --> 00:48:41.050
- And it's an opportunity for you
- 00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:43.170
- to share the love of Jesus,
- 00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:44.270
- please.
- 00:48:44.270 --> 00:48:45.270
- - David: Well, you know, people
- 00:48:45.270 --> 00:48:46.190
- tell me wherever I go and I've
- 00:48:46.190 --> 00:48:48.210
- been so many places in the last
- 00:48:48.210 --> 00:48:50.110
- 2 months, I feel like I don't
- 00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:51.250
- even know where my home is but
- 00:48:51.250 --> 00:48:53.030
- the constant thing is that
- 00:48:53.030 --> 00:48:55.140
- people are saying is that "what
- 00:48:55.140 --> 00:48:56.240
- do we do in a time like this?"
- 00:48:56.240 --> 00:48:59.150
- As I mentioned to you, this is
- 00:48:59.150 --> 00:49:01.120
- unprecedented, all of this
- 00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:04.060
- that we're experiencing.
- 00:49:04.060 --> 00:49:05.060
- And then you look at the new
- 00:49:05.060 --> 00:49:07.230
- things that have happened in
- 00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:08.190
- the last decade that we've never
- 00:49:08.190 --> 00:49:10.140
- dealt with before.
- 00:49:10.140 --> 00:49:12.110
- And my message is that this is
- 00:49:12.110 --> 00:49:14.020
- the greatest opportunity we
- 00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:15.220
- could ever have to bring light
- 00:49:16.090 --> 00:49:19.090
- into the darkness, to light
- 00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:21.030
- candles that will be seen
- 00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:22.230
- because the backdrop is much
- 00:49:22.230 --> 00:49:24.010
- darker than it's ever been.
- 00:49:24.010 --> 00:49:25.070
- And to say with great
- 00:49:25.070 --> 00:49:28.070
- confidence, "Jesus Christ
- 00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.170
- is the answer."
- 00:49:29.170 --> 00:49:31.080
- If you will put your trust in
- 00:49:31.080 --> 00:49:32.120
- Jesus Christ, not only will he
- 00:49:32.120 --> 00:49:34.030
- give you the hope that you need
- 00:49:34.030 --> 00:49:35.220
- for the future, but he will give
- 00:49:35.220 --> 00:49:37.170
- you the strength
- 00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:39.000
- and the purpose for today.
- 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.220
- Because how many of you know,
- 00:49:41.220 --> 00:49:43.020
- Matt, when you get the future,
- 00:49:43.020 --> 00:49:44.270
- you get today.
- 00:49:44.270 --> 00:49:46.080
- If you don't get the future, you
- 00:49:46.080 --> 00:49:47.200
- don't get anything.
- 00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:48.190
- If you don't get Christ, if you
- 00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:49.180
- don't get salvation, you not
- 00:49:49.180 --> 00:49:50.260
- only lose the future but today
- 00:49:50.260 --> 00:49:52.170
- doesn't make any sense either.
- 00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:54.040
- You get caught up in all of this
- 00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:55.150
- melodrama that's going on
- 00:49:55.150 --> 00:49:57.060
- around us.
- 00:49:57.060 --> 00:49:58.010
- Here's what I know.
- 00:49:58.010 --> 00:49:59.120
- It's an age-old statement that I
- 00:49:59.120 --> 00:50:01.000
- don't know what the future holds
- 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.000
- but I know who holds the future.
- 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.090
- And my hope is in him.
- 00:50:05.090 --> 00:50:07.050
- And if you have never put
- 00:50:07.050 --> 00:50:08.210
- your trust in Jesus Christ,
- 00:50:08.210 --> 00:50:11.000
- let me encourage you today.
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- You don't have to live
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- in despair and you don't have
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- to be filled with anxiety.
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- Almighty God wants to give you
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- his peace, and his peace
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- is in a person.
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- That person is Jesus Christ.
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- Wherever you are, wherever
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- you're watching this program,
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- you can bow right now and simply
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- say this prayer,
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- "Lord God, I need you.
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- I need you to come
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- and give me your peace.
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- I know I'm a sinner and I know I
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- can't save myself so I have to
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- trust you and I'm trusting you
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- today to be my own
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- personal Savior.
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- Lord Jesus Christ, come into my
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- heart and make me the person
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- I was created to be.
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- Clean me up from the inside out
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- and give me your peace so that I
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- will have the strength to stand
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- during these days and have
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- the hope that is promised
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- in your book."
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- And I pray you will do that.
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- I pray that you will pray that
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- prayer today in your heart and
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- let us know here at this network
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- so we can send you some
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- information that will help you
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- get started
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- in your walk with Christ.
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- - Matt: Another opportunity.
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- - Laurie: I love you so much.
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- - Matt: We had another
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- opportunity to invite people
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- to Christ all around the world.
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- Do you know, there's satellites
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- that take this broadcast all
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- over the world and, you know,
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- pretty much anywhere that you
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- can receive a cell phone call,
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- anywhere there's electricity in
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- the world, this signal is there,
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- by Ku-band, by C-band.
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- And we have, you know, over
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- the years logged millions, tens
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- of millions, of decisions for
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- Christ because of pastors like
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- yourself that would make
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- their way in front of one of
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- the cameras at TBN so thank--
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- - David: Well, I don't think
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- there's any question that there
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- couldn't be anybody who's had
- 00:51:51.220 --> 00:51:53.120
- a greater impact on the world
- 00:51:53.120 --> 00:51:56.020
- at large than this network.
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- It's the greatest delivery
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- system anybody's
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- ever dreamed of.
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- And nothing even close.
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- I'm so honored to be here.
- 00:52:02.270 --> 00:52:04.030
- - Matt: The partners at TBN
- 00:52:04.030 --> 00:52:05.020
- bought into the vision of TBN.
- 00:52:05.090 --> 00:52:08.090
- My sweet little mom and daddy
- 00:52:08.090 --> 00:52:09.220
- many years ago, not far from
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- where we are today, heard the
- 00:52:11.130 --> 00:52:13.130
- voice of the Lord call them
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- to this broadcast and Laurie
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- and I's honor is that the second
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- generation of TBN
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- has fully been realized.
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- My parents are in heaven today.
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- We miss them, we love them, but
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- the same thing that's happened
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- 40 years ago is still happening.
- 00:52:29.020 --> 00:52:31.050
- A Dr. Jeremiah is looking into
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- a camera and inviting you
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- to know Jesus.
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- That's what this network
- 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:36.230
- was raised up to do.
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- That's why the partners bought
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- into the vision of it
- 00:52:39.130 --> 00:52:41.010
- over all these years.
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- The vision continues.
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- This book that we've been
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- discussing all along today is
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- "People Are Asking,
- 00:52:48.030 --> 00:52:49.200
- 'Is This the End?'
- 00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:51.120
- Signs of God's Providence
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- in a Disturbing New World."
- 00:52:53.100 --> 00:52:55.170
- It is a book.
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- It is now a "New York Time"
- 00:52:56.160 --> 00:52:58.170
- number one bestseller.
- 00:52:58.170 --> 00:52:59.240
- We got word of that as we
- 00:52:59.240 --> 00:53:01.070
- sat down for this interview.
- 00:53:01.070 --> 00:53:03.180
- available to you.
- 00:53:06.010 --> 00:53:06.280
- All the operators
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- are standing by.
- 00:53:08.030 --> 00:53:09.120
- They know why you're calling
- 00:53:09.120 --> 00:53:10.270
- if you call that 800-number.
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- We're trying to make it easy
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- on everybody.
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- And it's very rare that we
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- can get a publisher, an author,
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- and all of our schedules
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- to coordinate but today, it
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- happened and we got the news
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- as we sat down
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- that it's number one.
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- That's an amazing thing.
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- Final thoughts to our audience
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- concerning, "Is This the End?"
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- answer short, is this the end?
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- No.
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- This is not the end.
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- If it were the end, we'd be
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- in heaven talking about this.
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- But what we ask and answer in
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- this book is how should I live
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- in this world today?
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- And I wanna say we live with
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- great hope because while we see
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- all these things that we've
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- chronicled in this book, we know
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- that God has a plan for all of
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- us and that his providence
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- is--he's in control.
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- He's in charge.
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- He's seated on the throne
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- in heaven and,
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- as I mentioned earlier,
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- when you look into heaven,
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- the throne's not unoccupied.
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- God is at home.
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- And one of these days, we'll
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- be sitting around in eternity,
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- talking about what we talked
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- about here today and probably
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- someone's gonna say, "Oh,
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- so that's what that was about."
- 00:54:20.140 --> 00:54:22.110
- But, you know, this is a real
- 00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:24.200
- attempt on my part to at least
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- give some biblical perspective
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- on some of the most talked about
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- issues in our world today
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- and I pray that it will be
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- an encouragement and a blessing
- 00:54:33.120 --> 00:54:34.050
- to the TBN audience.
- 00:54:34.050 --> 00:54:35.220
- - Matt: Thank you,
- 00:54:35.220 --> 00:54:36.230
- Dr. Jeremiah.
- 00:54:36.230 --> 00:54:37.130
- Back to New York City
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- "Is This the End?"
- 00:54:40.150 --> 00:54:41.290
- - David: "'It will come to pass
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- at the same time, when Gog comes
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- against the land of Israel,'
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- says the Lord God, 'that
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- My fury will show in My face.
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- For in My jealousy and
- 00:54:53.220 --> 00:54:55.160
- in the fire of My wrath
- 00:54:55.160 --> 00:54:57.020
- I have spoken.'"
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- Ezekiel describes
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- four calamities that
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- will descend upon this army.
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- Now watch this.
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- Here's Israel, this small
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- unprotected group, and here's
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- this massive army and this
- 00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:09.230
- massive army has surrounded 'em.
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- They're about to attack.
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- Enter God.
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- First of all, there will be
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- monumental convulsions.
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- Ezekiel 38 says, "Surely in
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- that day there shall be a great
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- earthquake in the land of
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- Israel, so that the fish of the
- 00:55:25.120 --> 00:55:27.160
- sea and the birds of the heavens
- 00:55:27.160 --> 00:55:28.180
- and the beasts of the field, all
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- creeping things that creep on
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- the earth, and all men who are
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- on the face of the earth
- 00:55:33.140 --> 00:55:34.190
- will shake at My presence.
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- The mountains shall be thrown
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- down and steep places
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- will fall and every wall
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- - Matt: So thank you,
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- Dr. Jeremiah,
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- for being with us today.
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- Number one "New York Time"
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- bestseller.
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- This is it.
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- Thank you.
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- We'll see you next time.
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- We'll see you next time.
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- [music]
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