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December 30, 2016
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Matthew Hagee

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  • MUSIC
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  • PLEASE WELCOME
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  • MATT AND KENDAL HAGEE.
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  • MUSIC
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELCOME TO
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  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
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  • LIFE IS MADE UP OF A SERIES
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  • OF HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS
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  • OF MOMENTS.
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  • SOME ARE UNEVENTFUL
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  • AND OTHERS ARE VERY MEMORABLE.
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  • STILL SOME ARE ALL TOGETHER
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  • LIFE CHANGING.
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  • BOTH OUR GUESTS TODAY
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  • EXPERIENCED VERY DEFINING
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  • MOMENTS IN THE MIDDLE
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  • OF TWO OF OUR NATION'S
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  • MOST HISTORIC CRISES,
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  • THE MIRACLE ON THE HUDSON
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  • AND 9/11.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: TO ONE OF
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  • OUR FAVORITE PARTS
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  • "GOOD LORD, I'M GRATEFUL,"
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  • I WANT YOU TO HASHTAG US
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  • #GLIG AND FLOOD THE
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  • SOCIAL MEDIA AND TELL THE WORLD
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  • WHAT YOU'RE GRATEFUL FOR.
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  • I KNOW THAT I'M GRATEFUL
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  • THAT FOR THE CHRISTIAN;
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  • ALL OF THE MOMENTS OF OUR LIVES
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  • ARE SIFTED THROUGH GOD'S HANDS
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  • BECAUSE WE'RE VALUABLE TO HIM.
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  • MATT HAGEE: THAT'S EXACTLY
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  • RIGHT.
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  • YOU HAVE A VALUE TO THE KING
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  • OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.
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  • WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT
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  • SOME OF YOU THOUGHT WERE
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  • DEFINING MOMENTS IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • SO WE TOOK THE CAMERA
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  • TO THE STREET AND WE ASKED YOU
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  • WHAT YOU THOUGHT.
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  • TAKE A LOOK AND LET'S SEE
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  • WHAT YOU SAID.
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  • I DID HAVE A DEFINING MOMENT
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  • IN MY LIFE BEFORE.
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  • YEAH, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING
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  • GOING ON WITH MY JOB.
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  • AND JUST,
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  • I HAD TO FIND A WAY TO
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  • FIND SOMETHING
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  • AND MOVE ON TO SOMETHING BETTER.
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  • FINALLY ACCEPTING THE LORD
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  • REALLY WAS ONE.
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  • AT THE AGE OF 19,
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  • I HAD A CRITICAL ILLNESS.
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  • I SPENT SIX MONTHS
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  • IN THE HOSPITAL.
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  • WAS UH -- SHOULD HAVE NEVER
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  • SURVIVED IT.
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  • AND IT WAS DEFINITELY
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  • A DEFINING MOMENT.
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  • I THINK I DON'T HAVE
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  • A DECIDING MOMENT.
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  • I'M ALREADY --
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  • I THINK I'M VERY YOUNG,
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  • BUT NO, NO,
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  • I DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT
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  • REALLY CHANGED MY WORLD
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  • RIGHT NOW.
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  • THE MOMENT THAT I WOULD DEFINE
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  • IS WHEN I CAME TO CHRIST.
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  • AND IT'S TURNED MY LIFE
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  • FROM LIVING WORLDLY,
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  • AND STARTED LIVING FOR CHRIST.
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  • AT SIXTY-YEARS-OLD,
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  • I LOOKED IN THE MIRROR ONE DAY
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  • AND FIGURED OUT WHO CAUSED
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  • ALL MY PROBLEMS.
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  • (CHUCKLES)
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  • THAT'S ABOUT IT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: HE WASN'T
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  • ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO BE
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  • ON US AIRWAYS FLIGHT 1549.
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  • IT WAS A FLIGHT THAT WOULD BE
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  • CALLED "THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
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  • LANDING IN AVIATION HISTORY."
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  • IT'S ALSO BEEN CALLED
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  • "THE MIRACLE ON THE HUDSON."
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  • AT THE LAST MINUTE,
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  • HIS PLANS CHANGED.
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  • SOME WOULD SAY THAT'S JUST
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  • BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE
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  • AT THE WRONG TIME.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE'LL I'M
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  • INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT HE SAYS
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  • ABOUT THAT.
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  • SO PLEASE WELCOME INSPIRATIONAL
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  • SURVIVOR DAVE SANDERSON.
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  • (APPLAUSE)
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME.
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  • MATT HAGEE: HELLO, DAVE.
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  • AND WELCOME TO THE DIFFERENCE.
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: THANK YOU
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  • FOR HAVING ME.
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  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S GOOD TO SEE
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  • YOU, SIR.
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: THANK YOU
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  • FOR HAVING ME.
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  • MATT HAGEE: SO YOU KNOW A LOT
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  • OF PEOPLE WOULD JUST SAY,
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  • MAN, ROTTEN LUCK, TWIST OF FATE,
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  • YOUR DAY TO GET THE SHORT
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  • STRAW.
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  • WHAT DO YOU SEE AS HAVING
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  • UNFOLDED FROM THIS EVENT?
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: WELL I REALLY
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  • THINK I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
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  • ON THAT PLANE FOR A REASON,
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  • BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON
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  • I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE PLANE.
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  • I WAS SCHEDULED ON THE 5 O'CLOCK
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  • FLIGHT AND EVERYTHING
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  • WAS GOING TO PLAN THAT DAY.
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  • BUT WE GOT DONE ABOUT
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  • 10 O'CLOCK THAT MORNING,
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  • SO I CALLED THE TRAVEL AGENT;
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  • I WORK WITH HER.
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  • AND SHE PUT ME ON FLIGHT 1549,
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  • SO I TRULY BELIEVE THAT GOD
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  • WANTED ME ON THAT PLANE
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  • FOR A REASON.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND SO THE FLIGHT
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  • TAKES OFF.
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  • EVERYBODY'S KIND OF FAMILIAR
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  • WITH THE STORY OF
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  • "THE MIRACLE ON THE HUDSON,"
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  • AND THE HEROIC CAPTAIN
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  • OF THAT DAY, SULLY SULLENBERGER.
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  • BUT WHEN YOU GOT ON THAT PLANE,
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  • EVEN IF YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN HIM
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  • BEFORE THE PLANE TOOK OFF,
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  • IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WENT,
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  • HEY, THAT'S SULLY.
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  • YOU JUST LOOKED AT HIM AS A MAN
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  • IN UNIFORM THERE TO DO A JOB.
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  • WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU HEAR
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  • HIS VOICE SAY,
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  • "PREPARE FOR A CRASH LANDING"?
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: WHEN HE SAID,
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  • "BRACE FOR IMPACT" IS WHEN I
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  • REALLY KNEW THAT SOMETHING
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  • WAS SERIOUS.
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  • HE USED TO WORK DIRE;
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  • I USED TO WORK SERIOUS.
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  • THAT'S WHEN I SORT OF HAD
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  • TO RECONCILE WITH WHAT WAS
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  • GOING ON IN MY LIFE.
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  • SO AT THAT MOMENT I ACTUALLY --
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  • THE FIRST THING I DID
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  • IS I PRAYED.
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  • I PRAYED.
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  • THE FIRST THING I PRAYED IS,
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  • WHOEVER THAT CAPTAIN IS;
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  • JUST GET ME DOWN IN ONE PIECE.
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  • I JUST WANT TO COME BACK AT
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  • LEAST IN ONE BODY.
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  • THE SECOND WAS, I THINK I PRAYED
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  • FOR IS THE LAST PERSON
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  • I SPOKE WITH,
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  • WHO WAS MY CLIENT IN BROOKLYN,
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  • TO CALL MY WIFE AND TELL HER
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  • I LOVED HER.
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  • AND THE THIRD THING,
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  • I PRAYED TO GOD TO FORGIVE
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  • MY SINS.
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  • I DON'T WANT ANYTHING BETWEEN
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  • ME AND GOD AT THAT POINT.
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  • I KNEW IT PROBABLY WASN'T GOING
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  • TO TURN OUT THE WAY IT NEEDED
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  • TO TURN OUT,
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  • SO I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO
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  • AT LEAST RECONCILE WITH GOD
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  • AND JESUS AT THAT POINT.
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  • AND THAT'S THE LAST THING
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  • THAT I THOUGHT BEFORE A COUPLE
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  • OF SECONDS BEFORE WE HIT
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  • THE IMPACT.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: DAVE,
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  • WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE SCREAMING?
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  • WERE THERE PEOPLE PRAYING?
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  • WHAT WAS THE ENVIRONMENT INSIDE
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  • THE PLANE AT THAT MOMENT?
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: IT WAS SO
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  • QUIET; YOU COULD HEAR A PIN
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  • DROP.
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  • I MEAN EVERYBODY WAS SORT
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  • OF RECONCILED AT THAT POINT;
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  • WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO
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  • COME BACK.
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  • AND THE LAST THING AND THE ONLY
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  • THING YOU HEAR ON THAT PLANE
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  • BESIDES THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS
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  • SAYING, "BRACE, BRACE, BRACE"
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  • WAS A LADY SAYING,
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  • "THE LORD'S PRAYER."
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  • THAT'S THE ONLY THING YOU HEAR
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  • ON THE PLANE THE LAST FEW
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  • SECONDS BEFORE IMPACT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW REALLY
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  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT
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  • OF PROCESSING.
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  • YOU KNOW YOU THOUGHT ABOUT,
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  • WHAT WAS MY BODY GOING TO BE
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  • LIKE WHEN THEY FOUND IT.
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  • WHAT WAS MY WIFE GOING TO HEAR
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  • AND FROM WHOM WOULD SHE HEAR IT?
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  • AND THEN WHAT'S GOING TO BE
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  • WAITING FOR ME
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  • ON THE OTHER SIDE?
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  • IN REALITY,
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  • THERE WASN'T BUT A FEW SECONDS
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  • FOR ALL OF THAT TO BE GOING ON
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  • IN YOUR MIND; YOU KNOW?
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: RIGHT.
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  • YOU KNOW I FEEL THAT I WAS
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  • PREPARED FOR THIS.
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  • AND MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS
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  • EITHER I'M GOING TO END UP
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  • SOME PLACE GREAT
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  • OR I'M GOING TO BE BACK
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  • WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
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  • SO I KNEW I WAS GOING TO BE
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  • SOME PLACE.
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  • SO IN MY MIND,
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  • I KNEW THAT I BELIEVED IN GOD,
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  • SO I WAS GOING TO GO TO
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  • A BETTER PLACE ONE WAY
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  • OR THE OTHER.
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  • BUT CANDIDLY,
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  • I WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY FAMILY
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  • WAS TAKEN CARE OF.
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  • AND THE LAST THOUGHT THAT I HAD
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  • BEFORE IMPACT WAS "I HOPE MY
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  • WIFE PAYS OFF THE MORTGAGE."
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  • WE PRAYED ABOUT THAT SINCE
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  • DAY ONE WE WERE MARRIED.
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  • AND WE NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE
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  • TO ACCOMPLISH IT.
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  • AND I WAS LIKE JUST PAY OFF
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  • THE MORTGAGE.
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  • AND THEN I PUT MY HEAD DOWN
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  • AND IT WAS --
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: SO YOU PUT
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  • YOUR HEAD DOWN,
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  • AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
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  • DAVE SANDERSON: IT WAS
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  • A HARD HIT.
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  • HE ESTIMATES HE HIT ABOUT
  • 00:05:54.270 --> 00:05:55.210
  • A HUNDRED, 120 MILES AN HOUR.
  • 00:05:55.210 --> 00:05:57.060
  • SO I WENT BACK IN MY SEAT
  • 00:05:57.060 --> 00:05:58.040
  • AND UP IN MY SEAT WHEN WE HIT.
  • 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:59.090
  • BUT THEN I LOOKED UP,
  • 00:05:59.090 --> 00:06:01.030
  • AND I LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW
  • 00:06:01.030 --> 00:06:01.240
  • AND I SAW LIGHT COMING
  • 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:02.220
  • THROUGH THE WINDOW.
  • 00:06:02.220 --> 00:06:03.290
  • SO I KNEW I HAD A SHOT
  • 00:06:03.290 --> 00:06:04.290
  • TO GET OUT,
  • 00:06:04.290 --> 00:06:05.130
  • BUT THE WATER WAS COMING IN
  • 00:06:05.130 --> 00:06:06.260
  • IMMEDIATELY FROM THE BOTTOM
  • 00:06:06.260 --> 00:06:07.290
  • OF THE PLANE AND THE BACK
  • 00:06:07.290 --> 00:06:08.240
  • OF THE PLANE, BECAUSE SOMEONE
  • 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:09.200
  • TRIED TO OPEN UP THE BACK DOOR.
  • 00:06:09.200 --> 00:06:10.220
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WATER'S
  • 00:06:10.220 --> 00:06:11.130
  • ANYWHERE FROM ANKLE
  • 00:06:11.130 --> 00:06:12.090
  • TO WAIST DEEP,
  • 00:06:12.090 --> 00:06:13.080
  • DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU WERE
  • 00:06:13.080 --> 00:06:14.000
  • ON THE PLANE.
  • 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:14.170
  • I WAS TOWARDS THE BACK,
  • 00:06:14.170 --> 00:06:15.140
  • SO I WAS ABOUT ANYWHERE
  • 00:06:15.140 --> 00:06:16.080
  • FROM KNEE TO WAIST DEEP
  • 00:06:16.080 --> 00:06:17.070
  • AT THAT POINT FOR ME.
  • 00:06:17.070 --> 00:06:18.120
  • MATT HAGEE: SO YOU RECOGNIZED
  • 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.110
  • THAT IT WASN'T AN INSTANTANEOUS
  • 00:06:20.110 --> 00:06:22.090
  • DISASTER,
  • 00:06:22.090 --> 00:06:23.010
  • BUT YOU'RE STILL NOT OUT
  • 00:06:23.010 --> 00:06:23.230
  • OF DANGER.
  • 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:24.240
  • DID FOLKS ON THE PLANE
  • 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.220
  • REMAIN CALM?
  • 00:06:25.220 --> 00:06:26.200
  • DID THEY DECIDE THAT WE'RE ALL
  • 00:06:26.200 --> 00:06:28.090
  • GOING TO TRY AND GET OUT
  • 00:06:28.090 --> 00:06:29.080
  • OF THIS TOGETHER?
  • 00:06:29.080 --> 00:06:29.270
  • OR WAS IT KIND OF EVERY MAN
  • 00:06:29.270 --> 00:06:30.210
  • FOR HIMSELF?
  • 00:06:30.210 --> 00:06:31.100
  • DAVE SANDERSON: NO.
  • 00:06:31.100 --> 00:06:32.040
  • THE WORD I'VE USED IS
  • 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.040
  • "CONTROLLED CHAOS" WHERE PEOPLE
  • 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.000
  • WERE MOVING FAST BUT NO ONE WAS
  • 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.040
  • STEPPING OVER EACH OTHER.
  • 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:36.030
  • I THINK PEOPLE WERE RESPECTFUL,
  • 00:06:36.030 --> 00:06:38.230
  • BUT IT WAS MOVING FAST AT THIS
  • 00:06:38.230 --> 00:06:40.130
  • POINT.
  • 00:06:40.130 --> 00:06:42.020
  • AND NO ONE LOST THEIR HEADS.
  • 00:06:42.020 --> 00:06:42.260
  • AND I THINK EVERYBODY --
  • 00:06:42.260 --> 00:06:43.250
  • WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS EVERYBODY
  • 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:44.210
  • CHECKED THEIR EGOS AT THE DOOR,
  • 00:06:44.210 --> 00:06:45.210
  • AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:06:45.210 --> 00:06:46.280
  • YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL IN THIS THING
  • 00:06:46.280 --> 00:06:48.030
  • TOGETHER NOW,
  • 00:06:48.030 --> 00:06:49.000
  • SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN ALL
  • 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.080
  • WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE IT
  • 00:06:50.080 --> 00:06:51.060
  • ALL HAPPENS THE RIGHT WAY.
  • 00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:52.100
  • AND NO ONE LOST CONTROL
  • 00:06:52.100 --> 00:06:53.230
  • AND WHICH I THINK WAS A BIG,
  • 00:06:53.230 --> 00:06:54.280
  • BIG POINT OF THE SECOND PART
  • 00:06:54.280 --> 00:06:56.110
  • OF THIS PLANE CRASH.
  • 00:06:56.110 --> 00:06:57.170
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AND YOU WERE
  • 00:06:57.170 --> 00:06:58.130
  • ACTUALLY THE LAST PASSENGER
  • 00:06:58.130 --> 00:06:59.110
  • TO GET OFF.
  • 00:06:59.110 --> 00:07:00.040
  • TELL US ABOUT THAT AND WHY DID
  • 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.010
  • YOU CHOOSE TO STAY ON?
  • 00:07:01.010 --> 00:07:02.110
  • DAVE SANDERSON: IT WASN'T
  • 00:07:02.110 --> 00:07:03.050
  • MY GAME PLAN.
  • 00:07:03.050 --> 00:07:03.250
  • MY GAME PLAN WAS GET TO THE
  • 00:07:03.250 --> 00:07:04.160
  • AISLE, GET UP, AND GET OUT.
  • 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:05.260
  • WHEN I GOT TO THE AISLE,
  • 00:07:05.260 --> 00:07:06.180
  • SOMETHING HAPPENED,
  • 00:07:06.180 --> 00:07:07.090
  • AND NOT ONLY CHANGED THAT DAY,
  • 00:07:07.090 --> 00:07:08.210
  • BUT PROBABLY CHANGED THE ENTIRE
  • 00:07:08.210 --> 00:07:09.160
  • DIRECTION WHERE I WAS GOING
  • 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:10.210
  • WITH MY MOM,
  • 00:07:10.210 --> 00:07:11.140
  • WHO HAD PASSED AWAY IN 1997.
  • 00:07:11.140 --> 00:07:13.110
  • I HEARD HER IN MY HEAD TALKING
  • 00:07:13.110 --> 00:07:14.060
  • TO ME.
  • 00:07:14.060 --> 00:07:14.190
  • WHAT SHE SAID TO ME IS,
  • 00:07:14.190 --> 00:07:15.090
  • "IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING,
  • 00:07:15.090 --> 00:07:16.030
  • GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU."
  • 00:07:16.030 --> 00:07:17.270
  • AND AT THAT POINT --
  • 00:07:17.270 --> 00:07:18.240
  • ONE THING GREAT ABOUT MY MOTHER,
  • 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:19.290
  • SHE ALWAYS GAVE US A CHOICE.
  • 00:07:19.290 --> 00:07:21.160
  • IT WAS MY CHOICE WHAT WAS RIGHT
  • 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.190
  • FOR ME.
  • 00:07:22.190 --> 00:07:23.190
  • WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR ME IS YOU
  • 00:07:23.190 --> 00:07:24.260
  • TAKE CARE OF OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:07:24.260 --> 00:07:25.160
  • FIRST.
  • 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:26.040
  • YEAH, I GREW UP PLAYING SPORTS,
  • 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:27.020
  • AND ATHLETICS,
  • 00:07:27.020 --> 00:07:27.200
  • AND BOY SCOUTS WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:07:27.200 --> 00:07:28.200
  • ALWAYS AROUND TEAMS,
  • 00:07:28.200 --> 00:07:30.110
  • AND YOU ALWAYS TOOK CARE
  • 00:07:30.110 --> 00:07:31.080
  • OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:07:31.080 --> 00:07:31.280
  • SO THAT'S WHY I WENT TO
  • 00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:32.240
  • THE BACK TO SEE IF ANYBODY
  • 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:33.160
  • NEEDED HELP.
  • 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.080
  • AND THERE WAS ONE ELDER LADY
  • 00:07:34.080 --> 00:07:35.030
  • WHO SORT OF HAD A COUPLE
  • 00:07:35.030 --> 00:07:35.290
  • ISSUES.
  • 00:07:35.290 --> 00:07:36.160
  • AND WE ALL SORT OF GOT HER UP
  • 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:37.110
  • AND GOT HER GOING.
  • 00:07:37.110 --> 00:07:38.080
  • BUT WHEN SHE GOT UP AND GOT
  • 00:07:38.080 --> 00:07:39.230
  • GOING, THEN WHEN IT WAS TIME
  • 00:07:39.230 --> 00:07:40.230
  • FOR ME TO GO.
  • 00:07:40.230 --> 00:07:41.110
  • AND I STARTED MAKING MY WAY OUT
  • 00:07:41.110 --> 00:07:42.080
  • OF THE PLANE.
  • 00:07:42.080 --> 00:07:42.250
  • AND BY THAT TIME,
  • 00:07:42.250 --> 00:07:43.180
  • IT WAS ABOUT WAIST DEEP
  • 00:07:43.180 --> 00:07:44.200
  • INTO WATER.
  • 00:07:44.200 --> 00:07:45.100
  • IT WAS DARK.
  • 00:07:45.100 --> 00:07:46.180
  • AND THE BINS HAD BROKEN OPEN,
  • 00:07:46.180 --> 00:07:47.150
  • SO LUGGAGE IS JUST FLOWING OUT,
  • 00:07:47.150 --> 00:07:48.150
  • AND YOU'RE WALKING INTO THINGS.
  • 00:07:48.150 --> 00:07:49.200
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:07:49.200 --> 00:07:51.000
  • IT'S TRYING TO GET OUT ON
  • 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.270
  • THE RIGHT SIDE AND THERE WAS
  • 00:07:52.270 --> 00:07:54.190
  • NO ROOM ON THE WING
  • 00:07:54.190 --> 00:07:55.110
  • OR THE BOAT FOR ME.
  • 00:07:55.110 --> 00:07:56.140
  • SO THAT'S WHY I WAS IN THE
  • 00:07:56.140 --> 00:07:57.120
  • PLANE FOR ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES,
  • 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.060
  • WAIST-DEEP IN 36 DEGREE WATER.
  • 00:07:58.060 --> 00:08:01.020
  • MATT HAGEE: IT'S HARD ENOUGH
  • 00:08:01.020 --> 00:08:01.230
  • TO GET OFF OF A PLANE THAT'S
  • 00:08:01.230 --> 00:08:02.230
  • SITTING STILL WITH JUST PEOPLE
  • 00:08:02.230 --> 00:08:03.290
  • IN IT.
  • 00:08:03.290 --> 00:08:04.130
  • FORGET ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
  • 00:08:04.130 --> 00:08:05.150
  • DYNAMICS THAT ARE HAPPENING
  • 00:08:05.150 --> 00:08:06.150
  • THERE.
  • 00:08:06.150 --> 00:08:07.030
  • SO YOU KNOW PEOPLE SAY, OH,
  • 00:08:07.030 --> 00:08:09.030
  • HE WAS THE LAST ONE TO GET OFF
  • 00:08:09.030 --> 00:08:10.020
  • OF THE PLANE.
  • 00:08:10.020 --> 00:08:10.180
  • THAT WAS A RISK THAT COULD HAVE
  • 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:12.110
  • COST YOU YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:08:12.110 --> 00:08:14.040
  • DAVE SANDERSON: IT WAS SO --
  • 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:14.250
  • I KNEW I WAS ALIVE.
  • 00:08:14.250 --> 00:08:15.290
  • AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME
  • 00:08:15.290 --> 00:08:17.290
  • WHEN I COULDN'T GET OUT
  • 00:08:17.290 --> 00:08:18.210
  • OF THE PLANE,
  • 00:08:18.210 --> 00:08:19.120
  • I WAS HANGING OUT OF THE PLANE.
  • 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:20.140
  • AND THE FIRST PICTURES RELEASED
  • 00:08:20.140 --> 00:08:21.070
  • ON TV WAS ME HANGING OUT
  • 00:08:21.070 --> 00:08:22.100
  • OF THE PLANE, WHICH I WAS,
  • 00:08:22.100 --> 00:08:23.260
  • I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE
  • 00:08:23.260 --> 00:08:24.240
  • THAT PICTURE.
  • 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:25.080
  • AND REALLY, THAT'S THE ONE
  • 00:08:25.080 --> 00:08:25.290
  • THAT REALLY GOT TO ME.
  • 00:08:25.290 --> 00:08:26.250
  • IT'S LIKE,
  • 00:08:26.250 --> 00:08:27.140
  • WOW, HOW LUCKY I WAS.
  • 00:08:27.140 --> 00:08:28.280
  • BUT THEN EVERYBODY WAS WORKING
  • 00:08:28.280 --> 00:08:30.230
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:08:30.230 --> 00:08:31.090
  • AND I WAS HOLDING ONTO
  • 00:08:31.090 --> 00:08:31.290
  • THE LIFEBOAT TO MAKE SURE
  • 00:08:31.290 --> 00:08:32.260
  • IT WASN'T FLOATING OUT.
  • 00:08:32.260 --> 00:08:33.220
  • BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:08:33.220 --> 00:08:34.260
  • I SORT OF WHIPPED AROUND
  • 00:08:34.260 --> 00:08:35.200
  • AND SAW A LADY WITH A BABY
  • 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:36.200
  • STANDING ON THE WING.
  • 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:37.170
  • AND THAT'S -- THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:08:37.170 --> 00:08:38.130
  • REALLY STARTED EVERYTHING
  • 00:08:38.130 --> 00:08:39.120
  • FOR ME AT THAT POINT.
  • 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:40.250
  • BECAUSE I FOUND OUT LATER
  • 00:08:40.250 --> 00:08:41.210
  • SHE HAD TWO KIDS ON THE PLANE.
  • 00:08:41.210 --> 00:08:43.070
  • SHE HAD A THREE YEAR OLD
  • 00:08:43.070 --> 00:08:44.020
  • IN THE LIFEBOAT,
  • 00:08:44.020 --> 00:08:44.190
  • AND A THREE MONTH OLD
  • 00:08:44.190 --> 00:08:45.130
  • SHE WAS HOLDING ONTO,
  • 00:08:45.130 --> 00:08:46.040
  • AND SHE WASN'T MOVING.
  • 00:08:46.040 --> 00:08:47.130
  • AND THE TRAINING THAT I'VE HAD
  • 00:08:47.130 --> 00:08:48.220
  • WORKING WITH TEAMS IS YOU KNOW
  • 00:08:48.220 --> 00:08:50.120
  • IF SOMEONE GETS IN THAT
  • 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:51.000
  • STIFLED PLACE,
  • 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:51.210
  • YOU'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING
  • 00:08:51.210 --> 00:08:52.120
  • RADICAL TO BREAK THEM OUT,
  • 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:53.100
  • SO I YELLED AT HER.
  • 00:08:53.100 --> 00:08:54.030
  • I YELLED, "THROW THE BABY."
  • 00:08:54.030 --> 00:08:55.180
  • AND I KNEW SHE WASN'T GOING
  • 00:08:55.180 --> 00:08:56.090
  • TO THROW HER BABY,
  • 00:08:56.090 --> 00:08:56.280
  • BUT I GOT HER ATTENTION.
  • 00:08:56.280 --> 00:08:58.170
  • AND I SAY,
  • 00:08:58.170 --> 00:08:59.240
  • "GOD PUTS PEOPLE IN PLACES
  • 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:00.190
  • HE WANTS THEM."
  • 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:01.110
  • BECAUSE THERE'S A LADY
  • 00:09:01.110 --> 00:09:02.030
  • ON THE LIFEBOAT FROM KNOXVILLE,
  • 00:09:02.030 --> 00:09:03.170
  • TENNESSEE THAT HEARD ME YELL
  • 00:09:03.170 --> 00:09:05.030
  • THAT.
  • 00:09:05.030 --> 00:09:05.160
  • SHE LOOKED UP AND SAID,
  • 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:06.070
  • "GIVE ME THE BABY."
  • 00:09:06.070 --> 00:09:06.280
  • AND SHE GAVE HER THE BABY
  • 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:08.190
  • AND JUMPED ON A LIFEBOAT.
  • 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:09.100
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:09:09.100 --> 00:09:09.290
  • YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN
  • 00:09:09.290 --> 00:09:10.180
  • A WING.
  • 00:09:10.180 --> 00:09:11.170
  • THAT'S WHAT ALL STARTED
  • 00:09:11.170 --> 00:09:12.090
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:13.080
  • MATT HAGEE: WOW.
  • 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:14.010
  • NOW YOU'VE COMMUNICATED A LOT
  • 00:09:14.010 --> 00:09:16.010
  • OF THIS IN A BOOK CALLED
  • 00:09:16.010 --> 00:09:17.060
  • "MOMENTS MATTER."
  • 00:09:17.060 --> 00:09:18.150
  • WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THIS
  • 00:09:18.150 --> 00:09:19.200
  • EXPERIENCE THAT INSPIRED
  • 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:20.220
  • THAT BOOK?
  • 00:09:20.220 --> 00:09:22.060
  • DAVE SANDERSON: WHAT REALLY
  • 00:09:22.060 --> 00:09:23.020
  • HAPPENED IS I HAD MY STORY
  • 00:09:23.030 --> 00:09:26.030
  • AND I WAS TALKING ALL OVER
  • 00:09:26.030 --> 00:09:27.000
  • THE COUNTRY.
  • 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:28.060
  • BUT MY ASSISTANT,
  • 00:09:28.060 --> 00:09:29.080
  • MY FORMER ASSISTANT, VICKY,
  • 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:30.060
  • CALLED ME ONE DAY,
  • 00:09:30.060 --> 00:09:30.270
  • AND SAID, "LISTEN.
  • 00:09:30.270 --> 00:09:31.140
  • YOU KNOW IF NOTHING ELSE,
  • 00:09:31.140 --> 00:09:32.210
  • YOU NEED TO RECORD THIS FOR
  • 00:09:32.210 --> 00:09:34.090
  • YOUR GRAND KIDS AND THEIR GRAND
  • 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:35.190
  • KIDS SO THEY KNOW YOUR STORY."
  • 00:09:35.190 --> 00:09:37.120
  • BECAUSE I TOLD HER ONCE I HAD --
  • 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:38.210
  • WE HAD NEIGHBORS DOWN
  • 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:39.120
  • THE STREET.
  • 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:39.290
  • THEY WERE TWO ELDERLY LADIES.
  • 00:09:39.290 --> 00:09:41.070
  • AND EVERY TIME THEY HAD
  • 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:42.030
  • A PROBLEM, THEY'D CALL ME.
  • 00:09:42.030 --> 00:09:43.000
  • I'D GO DOWN AND FIX THEIR TV
  • 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:44.010
  • AND DO WHATEVER THEY NEEDED ME
  • 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:44.250
  • TO DO.
  • 00:09:44.250 --> 00:09:45.130
  • BUT ONE DAY I WAS IN THERE
  • 00:09:45.130 --> 00:09:46.150
  • FIXING THEIR SOMETHING,
  • 00:09:46.150 --> 00:09:47.130
  • AND I LOOKED AT
  • 00:09:47.130 --> 00:09:48.050
  • THEIR DINING ROOM TABLE.
  • 00:09:48.050 --> 00:09:49.000
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN
  • 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:49.190
  • THEY HAD BOOKS OPENED.
  • 00:09:49.190 --> 00:09:50.050
  • AND THERE WERE PICTURES
  • 00:09:50.050 --> 00:09:51.020
  • OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
  • 00:09:51.020 --> 00:09:53.110
  • AND I WAS LIKE LOOKING AT THEM,
  • 00:09:53.110 --> 00:09:54.020
  • AND I SAID, WHAT ARE THESE?
  • 00:09:54.020 --> 00:09:55.250
  • SHE GOES,
  • 00:09:55.250 --> 00:09:56.140
  • WELL WE WERE
  • 00:09:56.140 --> 00:09:57.080
  • IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
  • 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:58.170
  • WE GREW UP IN CONCENTRATION
  • 00:09:58.170 --> 00:09:59.150
  • CAMPS.
  • 00:09:59.150 --> 00:10:00.010
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:10:00.010 --> 00:10:00.180
  • THEY SHOWED ME THEIR ARMS.
  • 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:01.190
  • AND I SAW ALL THE WRITINGS
  • 00:10:01.190 --> 00:10:03.050
  • ON THEIR ARMS.
  • 00:10:03.050 --> 00:10:04.050
  • I SAID,
  • 00:10:04.050 --> 00:10:04.170
  • PLEASE LET ME RECORD THIS
  • 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:05.110
  • FOR POSTERITY.
  • 00:10:05.110 --> 00:10:06.180
  • I MEAN THERE WERE 70 YEARS OLD
  • 00:10:06.180 --> 00:10:07.190
  • AT LEAST AT THAT POINT.
  • 00:10:07.190 --> 00:10:08.140
  • THEY WOULD NOT LET ME RECORD
  • 00:10:08.140 --> 00:10:10.210
  • THE STORY.
  • 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:11.100
  • SO I SAID,
  • 00:10:11.100 --> 00:10:12.010
  • LET'S RECORD THE STORY.
  • 00:10:12.010 --> 00:10:12.280
  • SO THAT'S WHY I RECORDED IT.
  • 00:10:12.280 --> 00:10:14.090
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:14.250
  • WE FIGURED OUT THAT THERE WERE
  • 00:10:14.250 --> 00:10:16.020
  • A LOT OF LESSONS FROM THAT DAY
  • 00:10:16.020 --> 00:10:17.170
  • THAT I COULD SHARE WITH PEOPLE
  • 00:10:17.170 --> 00:10:18.250
  • IN A BOOK FORMAT YOU MAY NOT
  • 00:10:18.250 --> 00:10:20.140
  • WANT TO HEAR ME SPEAK.
  • 00:10:20.140 --> 00:10:22.020
  • AND THAT'S WHY WE WROTE THE
  • 00:10:22.020 --> 00:10:22.230
  • BOOK "MOMENTS MATTER,"
  • 00:10:22.230 --> 00:10:23.180
  • AND WE FIGURED IT OUT THAT
  • 00:10:23.180 --> 00:10:24.050
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:10:24.050 --> 00:10:24.250
  • I SAID ONE DAY TO MY SISTER,
  • 00:10:24.250 --> 00:10:25.240
  • I SAID,
  • 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:26.200
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN I FIGURED OUT
  • 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:27.150
  • THAT ALL THE MOMENTS IN MY LIFE
  • 00:10:27.150 --> 00:10:28.160
  • DID MATTER.
  • 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:29.040
  • BECAUSE ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS
  • 00:10:29.040 --> 00:10:29.290
  • YOU DON'T THINK IN YOUR LIFE
  • 00:10:29.290 --> 00:10:31.120
  • MATTER, THEY DON'T COUNT.
  • 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:33.050
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:10:33.050 --> 00:10:33.190
  • THAT ONE THING MAY SAVE
  • 00:10:33.190 --> 00:10:34.190
  • YOURSELF OR SAVE SOMEBODY ELSE.
  • 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:35.260
  • MATT HAGEE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:10:35.260 --> 00:10:36.170
  • COMING UP,
  • 00:10:36.170 --> 00:10:37.130
  • HIS DEFINING MOMENT CAME
  • 00:10:37.130 --> 00:10:38.170
  • ON SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, 2001.
  • 00:10:38.170 --> 00:10:41.040
  • HE WAS ON THE 81ST FLOOR
  • 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:42.170
  • OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER'S
  • 00:10:42.170 --> 00:10:43.250
  • NORTH TOWER.
  • 00:10:43.250 --> 00:10:45.000
  • DON'T MISS THIS MIRACULOUS
  • 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.050
  • STORY WHEN WE COME BACK.
  • 00:10:46.050 --> 00:10:48.080
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:10:50.020 --> 00:10:53.020
  • THIS CHRISTMAS,
  • 00:10:53.020 --> 00:10:54.230
  • PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD
  • 00:10:54.230 --> 00:10:56.140
  • WILL GATHER AROUND THE TREE
  • 00:10:56.140 --> 00:10:57.200
  • AND CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
  • 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.120
  • BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE
  • 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:01.060
  • WITH BROKEN FAMILIES,
  • 00:11:01.060 --> 00:11:03.030
  • RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ALONE,
  • 00:11:03.030 --> 00:11:05.010
  • BARELY ABLE TO GIVE THEM
  • 00:11:05.010 --> 00:11:06.000
  • A CHRISTMAS AT ALL?
  • 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:07.260
  • THIS HOLIDAY SEASON,
  • 00:11:07.260 --> 00:11:09.030
  • LET'S UNIFY
  • 00:11:09.030 --> 00:11:09.260
  • THROUGH OUR GIVING
  • 00:11:09.260 --> 00:11:10.290
  • TO BE A FAMILY TO THOSE
  • 00:11:10.290 --> 00:11:12.070
  • WITHOUT ONE.
  • 00:11:12.070 --> 00:11:13.280
  • FOR A GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT
  • 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:15.050
  • TO JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
  • 00:11:15.050 --> 00:11:16.210
  • WE'D LIKE TO SEND YOU A FREE
  • 00:11:16.210 --> 00:11:18.030
  • "HAGEE'S CHRISTMAS" ALBUM.
  • 00:11:18.030 --> 00:11:19.190
  • AND FOR A TAX-DEDUCTIBLE GIFT
  • 00:11:19.190 --> 00:11:20.270
  • OF $150 OR MORE,
  • 00:11:20.270 --> 00:11:23.020
  • WE'LL SEND YOU
  • 00:11:23.020 --> 00:11:23.210
  • THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM
  • 00:11:23.210 --> 00:11:24.220
  • ALONG WITH A "PROPHETIC BIBLE"
  • 00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:25.270
  • AND "DAILY TRUTH DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:27.130
  • ALL PROCEEDS WILL GO TO
  • 00:11:27.130 --> 00:11:28.130
  • THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE.
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:30.260
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: THANK YOU
  • 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:31.230
  • FOR HELPING US GO INTO
  • 00:11:31.230 --> 00:11:32.260
  • THE NEW YEAR FINANCIALLY
  • 00:11:32.260 --> 00:11:34.000
  • STRONGER AND READY TO SHARE
  • 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.110
  • THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS
  • 00:11:35.110 --> 00:11:37.040
  • OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:38.110
  • TOGETHER WE ARE MAKING
  • 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:39.080
  • A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:40.080
  • FROM ALL OF US
  • 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:40.270
  • AT JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
  • 00:11:40.270 --> 00:11:42.130
  • MERRY CHRISTMAS
  • 00:11:42.130 --> 00:11:43.080
  • AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
  • 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.110
  • TO GIVE YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE
  • 00:11:45.110 --> 00:11:46.170
  • GIFT,
  • 00:11:46.170 --> 00:11:47.050
  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
  • 00:11:47.050 --> 00:11:50.020
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/UNITY.
  • 00:11:50.030 --> 00:11:53.030
  • DO YOU DARE TO DREAM?
  • 00:11:53.030 --> 00:11:55.150
  • HAS LIFE CAUSED YOU TO GIVE UP
  • 00:11:55.150 --> 00:11:56.270
  • ON YOUR DREAMS?
  • 00:11:56.270 --> 00:11:58.000
  • MAYBE YOU'RE AFRAID TO DREAM.
  • 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.250
  • PASTOR MATTHEW HAGEE HAS
  • 00:11:59.250 --> 00:12:01.130
  • CREATED AN INSPIRING JOURNAL
  • 00:12:01.130 --> 00:12:03.020
  • FOR JUST THAT REASON.
  • 00:12:03.020 --> 00:12:04.210
  • FILLED WITH BIBLE VERSES,
  • 00:12:04.210 --> 00:12:05.290
  • PRAYERS AND MESSAGES,
  • 00:12:05.290 --> 00:12:07.080
  • THE DREAM JOURNAL USES
  • 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.120
  • PRACTICAL STEPS TO HELP YOU
  • 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:09.250
  • REACH THE DREAM GOD HAS
  • 00:12:09.250 --> 00:12:11.110
  • PLACED IN YOUR HEART.
  • 00:12:11.110 --> 00:12:12.170
  • START YOUR NEW YEAR
  • 00:12:12.170 --> 00:12:13.220
  • AND DREAM BIG.
  • 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:15.200
  • ORDER THE DREAM JOURNAL TODAY.
  • 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.130
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN,
  • 00:12:17.130 --> 00:12:18.260
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG.
  • 00:12:19.250 --> 00:12:22.250
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:12:22.250 --> 00:12:24.040
  • KENDAL HAGEE: OUR NEXT GUEST
  • 00:12:24.040 --> 00:12:25.040
  • MOVED FROM INDIA TO
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:25.290
  • THE UNITED STATES LOOKING FOR
  • 00:12:25.290 --> 00:12:27.130
  • ADVENTURE AND PROSPERITY,
  • 00:12:27.130 --> 00:12:29.040
  • TILL SIX MONTHS LATER,
  • 00:12:29.040 --> 00:12:30.120
  • HE WAS WORKING ON THE 81ST FLOOR
  • 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.120
  • OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER'S
  • 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:33.130
  • NORTH TOWER.
  • 00:12:33.130 --> 00:12:34.180
  • MATT HAGEE: AND HIS WIFE WORKED
  • 00:12:34.180 --> 00:12:36.020
  • ON THE 71ST FLOOR
  • 00:12:36.020 --> 00:12:37.200
  • OF THE SOUTH TOWER.
  • 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.100
  • PLEASE WELCOME 9/11 SURVIVOR,
  • 00:12:39.100 --> 00:12:41.130
  • SUJO JOHN.
  • 00:12:41.130 --> 00:12:43.100
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:12:43.100 --> 00:12:45.290
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WHEW!
  • 00:12:45.290 --> 00:12:47.080
  • WELCOME.
  • 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.000
  • MATT HAGEE: SUJO,
  • 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:48.210
  • WELCOME TO THE DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:12:48.210 --> 00:12:49.200
  • SUJO JOHN: IT'S GREAT TO BE
  • 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:50.100
  • WITH YOU GUYS.
  • 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:50.280
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THANK YOU
  • 00:12:50.280 --> 00:12:51.200
  • FOR COMING.
  • 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:52.070
  • SUJO JOHN: THANK YOU.
  • 00:12:52.070 --> 00:12:53.050
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE'RE SO HONORED
  • 00:12:53.050 --> 00:12:53.240
  • TO HAVE YOU.
  • 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:54.170
  • SO YOU WORKED IN THE WORLD
  • 00:12:54.170 --> 00:12:55.170
  • TRADE CENTER SEPTEMBER 11TH.
  • 00:12:55.170 --> 00:12:56.220
  • TELL US ABOUT HOW DID YOU FEEL,
  • 00:12:56.220 --> 00:12:57.250
  • HOW DID THAT ALL START OFF
  • 00:12:57.250 --> 00:12:58.200
  • FOR YOU?
  • 00:12:58.200 --> 00:12:59.160
  • SUJO JOHN: WELL MY JOURNEY
  • 00:12:59.160 --> 00:13:00.120
  • ACTUALLY BEGAN IN INDIA.
  • 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:01.110
  • I GREW UP IN A CITY CALLED
  • 00:13:01.110 --> 00:13:02.140
  • CALCUTTA,
  • 00:13:02.140 --> 00:13:03.060
  • A CITY OF 21 MILLION PEOPLE.
  • 00:13:03.060 --> 00:13:04.240
  • AND I FOUND JESUS IN INDIA
  • 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:06.180
  • AT AGE 15.
  • 00:13:06.180 --> 00:13:07.200
  • AND POST THAT EXPERIENCE,
  • 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.200
  • I THOUGHT MY CALLING WAS
  • 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:09.140
  • IN THE BUSINESS WORLD,
  • 00:13:09.140 --> 00:13:10.210
  • SO I ENDED UP WITH DEGREES
  • 00:13:10.210 --> 00:13:11.160
  • IN BUSINESS.
  • 00:13:11.160 --> 00:13:12.040
  • AND THEN I GET MARRIED
  • 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:12.260
  • TO MY WIFE, MARY,
  • 00:13:12.260 --> 00:13:13.240
  • WHO'S INDIAN BY BIRTH.
  • 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.250
  • WE MEET IN INDIA.
  • 00:13:14.250 --> 00:13:15.290
  • BUT SHE HAD LEFT INDIA WHEN SHE
  • 00:13:15.290 --> 00:13:16.290
  • WAS YOUNG.
  • 00:13:16.290 --> 00:13:18.140
  • AND WE FELL IN LOVE,
  • 00:13:18.140 --> 00:13:19.140
  • GOT MARRIED IN JANUARY OF 2000.
  • 00:13:19.140 --> 00:13:21.130
  • WE LIVED IN INDIA FOR A YEAR
  • 00:13:21.130 --> 00:13:22.160
  • AFTER WE GOT MARRIED.
  • 00:13:22.160 --> 00:13:23.240
  • BUT WE FELT LIKE,
  • 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:24.130
  • LET'S MOVE TO AMERICA
  • 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:25.090
  • AND LET'S SEE WHAT LIFE HAS
  • 00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:26.080
  • IN STORE FOR US.
  • 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:27.130
  • AND EVEN BEFORE I CAME HERE,
  • 00:13:27.130 --> 00:13:28.290
  • I JUST KNEW AMERICA WAS A PLACE
  • 00:13:28.290 --> 00:13:30.140
  • WHERE DREAMS
  • 00:13:30.140 --> 00:13:31.030
  • AND DREAMERS COLLIDE.
  • 00:13:31.030 --> 00:13:32.150
  • SO I HAD SOME DREAMS
  • 00:13:32.150 --> 00:13:33.110
  • ABOUT MY LIFE.
  • 00:13:33.110 --> 00:13:34.010
  • SO I CAME HERE TO SEE HOW IT ALL
  • 00:13:34.010 --> 00:13:35.220
  • WOULD HAPPEN,
  • 00:13:35.220 --> 00:13:36.220
  • NOT KNOWING IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS
  • 00:13:36.220 --> 00:13:37.270
  • OF MOVING HERE,
  • 00:13:37.270 --> 00:13:39.180
  • YOU KNOW THIS GREAT TRAGEDY
  • 00:13:39.180 --> 00:13:40.210
  • WOULD HAPPEN AND OUR LIVES
  • 00:13:40.210 --> 00:13:41.150
  • WOULD BE SPARED.
  • 00:13:41.150 --> 00:13:42.210
  • SO ACTUALLY WHEN I LEFT HOME,
  • 00:13:42.210 --> 00:13:43.290
  • I DIDN'T COME WITH MUCH.
  • 00:13:43.290 --> 00:13:45.070
  • I CAME WITH $50 IN MY WALLET
  • 00:13:45.070 --> 00:13:47.060
  • AND TWO BAGS.
  • 00:13:47.060 --> 00:13:48.020
  • MATT HAGEE: WOW.
  • 00:13:48.020 --> 00:13:48.280
  • SUJO JOHN: AND I LANDED
  • 00:13:48.280 --> 00:13:49.210
  • IN NEW YORK IN A COLD MORNING.
  • 00:13:49.210 --> 00:13:50.200
  • MATT HAGEE: BUT YOU HAD A BIG,
  • 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:51.120
  • BIG DREAM.
  • 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:52.020
  • SUJO JOHN: I ALSO HAD A BIG
  • 00:13:52.020 --> 00:13:52.240
  • DREAM.
  • 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:53.150
  • I OFTEN SHARE WITH PEOPLE --
  • 00:13:53.150 --> 00:13:54.110
  • SHARE THIS WITH PEOPLE WHEN I
  • 00:13:54.110 --> 00:13:55.060
  • SPEAK.
  • 00:13:55.060 --> 00:13:55.290
  • YOU KNOW AT AGE 15,
  • 00:13:55.290 --> 00:13:56.220
  • WHEN I MET JESUS,
  • 00:13:56.220 --> 00:13:57.220
  • HE GAVE THOSE DREAMS.
  • 00:13:57.220 --> 00:13:59.040
  • AND FROM THAT POINT ON,
  • 00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:00.030
  • I KNEW THAT WHEN THE DREAM
  • 00:14:00.030 --> 00:14:02.200
  • GIVER GIVES YOU THOSE DREAMS,
  • 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:04.010
  • WE'VE GOT TO GUARD
  • 00:14:04.010 --> 00:14:04.210
  • THOSE DREAMS.
  • 00:14:04.210 --> 00:14:05.200
  • BUT OFTEN WE MIGHT DO A GOOD JOB
  • 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:06.170
  • GUARDING THAT DREAM,
  • 00:14:06.170 --> 00:14:08.010
  • BUT WHAT WE DON'T GUARD
  • 00:14:08.010 --> 00:14:08.290
  • IS OUR HEART AND OUR TESTIMONY.
  • 00:14:08.290 --> 00:14:10.280
  • AND IF YOU CAN GUARD YOUR HEART
  • 00:14:10.280 --> 00:14:11.240
  • AND YOUR TESTIMONY
  • 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.190
  • AND THOSE DREAMS,
  • 00:14:12.190 --> 00:14:13.230
  • THE DREAM GIVER WILL OPEN
  • 00:14:13.230 --> 00:14:14.240
  • SOME DOORS THAT NO MAN
  • 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.200
  • CAN OPEN FOR YOU.
  • 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.010
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW ON 9/11,
  • 00:14:17.010 --> 00:14:19.030
  • OBVIOUSLY, THE WORLD KNOWS THAT
  • 00:14:19.030 --> 00:14:21.040
  • PLANES WERE HIJACKED
  • 00:14:21.040 --> 00:14:22.020
  • AND LIVES WERE LOST.
  • 00:14:22.020 --> 00:14:23.150
  • BUT I THINK IT'S VERY
  • 00:14:23.150 --> 00:14:24.150
  • INTERESTING YOU SPEAK
  • 00:14:24.150 --> 00:14:25.090
  • IN THE CONTEXT OF DREAMS,
  • 00:14:25.090 --> 00:14:26.130
  • BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID THOSE
  • 00:14:26.130 --> 00:14:28.030
  • TERRORISTS UTILIZE THE TOOL
  • 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.080
  • OF HIJACKING TO END LIVES,
  • 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.150
  • IN MANY CASES,
  • 00:14:33.150 --> 00:14:34.090
  • THEY ENDED DREAMS.
  • 00:14:34.090 --> 00:14:35.140
  • THEY USED TERROR TO TRY
  • 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.200
  • AND RESHAPE LIVES.
  • 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:39.250
  • HOW DID THAT DAY UNFOLD FOR YOU
  • 00:14:39.250 --> 00:14:42.180
  • WHENEVER YOU'RE IN ONE TOWER,
  • 00:14:42.180 --> 00:14:44.180
  • YOUR WIFE IS IN ANOTHER TOWER,
  • 00:14:44.180 --> 00:14:46.190
  • AND YOU ARE SUDDENLY IN
  • 00:14:46.190 --> 00:14:49.190
  • THE MIDST OF THIS UNBELIEVABLE
  • 00:14:49.190 --> 00:14:52.160
  • SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES?
  • 00:14:52.160 --> 00:14:53.190
  • I MEAN FOR PEOPLE,
  • 00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:54.210
  • WHO WATCHED IT OVER TELEVISION
  • 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:56.120
  • FROM A GREAT DISTANCE AWAY,
  • 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.180
  • IT WAS TOO MUCH TO GRASP.
  • 00:14:57.180 --> 00:14:59.290
  • BUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS
  • 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:00.290
  • STANDING IN THE BUILDING
  • 00:15:00.290 --> 00:15:03.000
  • THAT'S NOW UNDER ATTACK,
  • 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.050
  • HOW MUCH MORE INTENSE COULD
  • 00:15:04.050 --> 00:15:05.160
  • THAT HAVE BEEN?
  • 00:15:05.160 --> 00:15:06.170
  • SUJO JOHN: WELL YOU KNOW
  • 00:15:06.170 --> 00:15:07.130
  • MY LIFE THAT MORNING,
  • 00:15:07.130 --> 00:15:08.180
  • IT STARTED OFF PRETTY EARLY
  • 00:15:08.180 --> 00:15:09.140
  • IN THE MORNING.
  • 00:15:09.140 --> 00:15:10.080
  • ME AND MY WIFE,
  • 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:10.280
  • WE USUALLY WOULD GO TO WORK
  • 00:15:10.280 --> 00:15:11.250
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:12.200
  • BUT EVER SINCE SHE WAS PREGNANT,
  • 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:13.250
  • SHE WOULD SLEEP A LITTLE LONGER,
  • 00:15:13.250 --> 00:15:15.030
  • AND THEN JOIN ME IN THE TOWERS.
  • 00:15:15.030 --> 00:15:16.170
  • SO I GET TO SAY "GOOD-BYE"
  • 00:15:16.170 --> 00:15:17.150
  • TO MY WIFE,
  • 00:15:17.150 --> 00:15:18.090
  • LEAVE HOME IN NORTHERN
  • 00:15:18.090 --> 00:15:19.020
  • NEW JERSEY,
  • 00:15:19.020 --> 00:15:19.280
  • MAKE MY WAY TO THE 81ST FLOOR
  • 00:15:19.280 --> 00:15:21.170
  • OF THE NORTH TOWER.
  • 00:15:21.170 --> 00:15:22.260
  • AND IT ACTUALLY STARTED OFF
  • 00:15:22.260 --> 00:15:23.260
  • AS AN INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL,
  • 00:15:23.260 --> 00:15:25.030
  • CLEAR DAY IN NEW YORK CITY.
  • 00:15:25.030 --> 00:15:27.140
  • I SAT DOWN BY MY CUBE,
  • 00:15:27.140 --> 00:15:28.250
  • AND I FEEL THIS SENSE
  • 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:29.180
  • OF EMPTINESS.
  • 00:15:29.180 --> 00:15:30.150
  • AND I'M LOOKING OUT.
  • 00:15:30.150 --> 00:15:31.040
  • I GET TO SEE THE GLORIOUS VIEW
  • 00:15:31.040 --> 00:15:33.010
  • OF THE LADY WITH A TORCH.
  • 00:15:33.010 --> 00:15:34.220
  • AND MATT, WHAT PLAYED ON
  • 00:15:34.220 --> 00:15:35.170
  • MY MIND THAT MORNING WAS,
  • 00:15:35.170 --> 00:15:36.200
  • GOD, I'VE BEEN IN THIS COUNTRY
  • 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:37.190
  • NOW FOR SIX MONTHS.
  • 00:15:37.190 --> 00:15:38.240
  • I CAME HERE WITH NOTHING,
  • 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:40.050
  • BUT YOU BLESSED ME
  • 00:15:40.050 --> 00:15:40.260
  • BEYOND MY WILDEST DREAMS.
  • 00:15:40.260 --> 00:15:42.080
  • I'M RISING UP THE CORPORATE
  • 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:43.190
  • LADDER.
  • 00:15:43.190 --> 00:15:44.070
  • BUT WHAT AM I DOING FOR YOU?
  • 00:15:44.070 --> 00:15:45.150
  • I'M JUST CHASING STUFF.
  • 00:15:45.150 --> 00:15:47.060
  • AND SO AS THESE THOUGHTS
  • 00:15:47.060 --> 00:15:48.050
  • ARE PLAYING IN MY MIND,
  • 00:15:48.050 --> 00:15:49.170
  • I DECIDED TO WRITE AND E-MAIL
  • 00:15:49.170 --> 00:15:50.250
  • TO SOMEONE IN MY HOME CHURCH.
  • 00:15:50.250 --> 00:15:52.200
  • I WROTE TO MY FRIEND, TOM,
  • 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:53.200
  • SAYING, "TOM, SOMETHING'S
  • 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:54.140
  • HAPPENING TO ME THIS MORNING.
  • 00:15:54.140 --> 00:15:56.010
  • I KNOW THERE'S A CALL OF GOD
  • 00:15:56.010 --> 00:15:57.020
  • UPON MY LIFE.
  • 00:15:57.020 --> 00:15:58.000
  • THESE LAST SIX MONTHS,
  • 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:58.270
  • I'VE BEEN CHASING STUFF.
  • 00:15:58.270 --> 00:16:00.110
  • I NEED TO CHASE AFTER GOD."
  • 00:16:00.110 --> 00:16:02.000
  • AND AFTER ABOUT 40 MINUTES
  • 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.010
  • OF SENDING THAT E-MAIL FROM
  • 00:16:03.010 --> 00:16:04.180
  • MY OFFICE IN THE 81ST FLOOR,
  • 00:16:04.180 --> 00:16:05.250
  • AMERICAN FLIGHT 11 COMES
  • 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:07.030
  • CRASHING INTO MY TOWER.
  • 00:16:07.030 --> 00:16:08.160
  • MATT HAGEE: WOW.
  • 00:16:08.160 --> 00:16:09.170
  • SUJO JOHN: PART OF THE WING OF
  • 00:16:09.170 --> 00:16:10.190
  • THE PLANE TEARS INTO OUR FLOOR.
  • 00:16:10.190 --> 00:16:12.070
  • THE BUILDING STARTS SHAKING
  • 00:16:12.070 --> 00:16:13.040
  • VIOLENTLY.
  • 00:16:13.040 --> 00:16:14.120
  • AND AS THIS BUILDING IS SHAKING
  • 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:15.240
  • VIOLENTLY,
  • 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:16.140
  • WALLS ARE COLLAPSING AROUND US,
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:18.080
  • JET FUEL HAD MADE ITS WAY
  • 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.090
  • ONTO OUR FLOOR,
  • 00:16:19.090 --> 00:16:20.010
  • AND FIRE BREAKS AROUND US.
  • 00:16:20.010 --> 00:16:21.240
  • AND 28 OF US IN THAT OFFICE,
  • 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.210
  • OUR FACES ON THAT CARPET,
  • 00:16:23.210 --> 00:16:25.040
  • WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:25.200
  • TO DIE.
  • 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:26.100
  • WE FELT THAT THERE WOULD BE
  • 00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:27.080
  • NO WAY FOR US TO BE GETTING OUT
  • 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:28.280
  • OF THIS PLACE,
  • 00:16:28.280 --> 00:16:29.160
  • WHICH WAS CAUGHT UP IN FIRE.
  • 00:16:29.160 --> 00:16:31.080
  • KENDAL HAGEE: HOW DID YOU MAKE
  • 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:32.070
  • YOUR WAY TO THE STAIRWELL
  • 00:16:32.070 --> 00:16:33.010
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
  • 00:16:33.010 --> 00:16:34.010
  • I'M JUST INVOLVED IN THIS STORY.
  • 00:16:34.010 --> 00:16:35.180
  • RIGHT NOW, I'M THINKING, OKAY,
  • 00:16:35.180 --> 00:16:36.140
  • YOU'RE THERE WITH PEOPLE
  • 00:16:36.140 --> 00:16:37.090
  • ON THE FLOOR.
  • 00:16:37.090 --> 00:16:38.010
  • WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST REACTION
  • 00:16:38.010 --> 00:16:38.260
  • TO DO?
  • 00:16:38.260 --> 00:16:39.220
  • SUJO JOHN: YOU KNOW I WAS
  • 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:40.160
  • THINKING ABOUT MY WIFE
  • 00:16:40.160 --> 00:16:41.100
  • THE WHOLE TIME.
  • 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:42.000
  • SHE'S FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT
  • 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:42.250
  • IN THE OTHER TOWER.
  • 00:16:42.250 --> 00:16:43.210
  • THESE PLANES ARE SO -- THESE
  • 00:16:43.210 --> 00:16:44.270
  • BUILDINGS ARE SO CLOSE TO EACH
  • 00:16:44.270 --> 00:16:45.270
  • OTHER.
  • 00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:46.210
  • AND I'M TRYING TO REACH HER
  • 00:16:46.210 --> 00:16:47.150
  • WITH MY CELL PHONE.
  • 00:16:47.150 --> 00:16:48.080
  • BUT CELL PHONE'S AREN'T WORKING.
  • 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.200
  • BUT SOMEONE ON THAT FLOOR,
  • 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:50.190
  • AS WE WERE ALL LYING DOWN,
  • 00:16:50.190 --> 00:16:51.240
  • RALLIES US, AND SAYS,
  • 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.070
  • "WE'VE GOT TO BEAT THIS FIRE.
  • 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:54.140
  • LET'S LOOK FOR A WAY OUT
  • 00:16:54.140 --> 00:16:55.090
  • OF THE STAIRWELL."
  • 00:16:55.090 --> 00:16:55.290
  • SO WE CRAWL OUR WAY FAR AWAY
  • 00:16:55.290 --> 00:16:57.210
  • THROUGH THE FIRE,
  • 00:16:57.210 --> 00:16:58.160
  • AND MAKE OUR WAY
  • 00:16:58.160 --> 00:16:59.080
  • INTO THE STAIRWELL.
  • 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.120
  • AND THE STAIRWELL WASN'T
  • 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:01.090
  • TOO BROAD.
  • 00:17:01.090 --> 00:17:01.240
  • IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US TO BE
  • 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:02.240
  • RUNNING DOWN IN TWO FILES.
  • 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.080
  • HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:06.030
  • ON THAT STAIRWELL.
  • 00:17:06.030 --> 00:17:07.110
  • BUT WHAT'S SO INTERESTING
  • 00:17:07.110 --> 00:17:08.090
  • IS ONE THING IN COMMON,
  • 00:17:08.090 --> 00:17:09.180
  • THE FEAR OF DEATH WRITTEN
  • 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:10.210
  • ON EVERYONE'S FACE.
  • 00:17:10.210 --> 00:17:12.030
  • IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT KIND
  • 00:17:12.030 --> 00:17:12.220
  • OF BACKGROUND THEY CAME FROM
  • 00:17:12.220 --> 00:17:13.250
  • OR HOW OLD THEY WERE,
  • 00:17:13.250 --> 00:17:14.270
  • HOW YOUNG THEY WERE.
  • 00:17:14.270 --> 00:17:16.030
  • IT WAS A FEAR OF DEATH.
  • 00:17:16.030 --> 00:17:17.040
  • AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE HEAR
  • 00:17:17.040 --> 00:17:18.080
  • ANOTHER EXPLOSION.
  • 00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:19.080
  • AND I'M SURE YOU SAW IT
  • 00:17:19.080 --> 00:17:20.090
  • ON YOUR TELEVISION SETS.
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:21.190
  • THIS IS THE SECOND PLANE
  • 00:17:21.190 --> 00:17:22.180
  • CRASHING INTO THE SECOND TOWER.
  • 00:17:22.180 --> 00:17:24.160
  • AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS
  • 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:25.110
  • GOING ON.
  • 00:17:25.110 --> 00:17:26.080
  • WE KNEW IT WAS A SMALL --
  • 00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:27.200
  • WE THOUGHT IT WAS A SMALL PLANE.
  • 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.220
  • MATT HAGEE: THAT WAS
  • 00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:30.180
  • THE ORIGINAL STORY IS
  • 00:17:30.180 --> 00:17:31.120
  • YOU KNOW A COMMUTER PLANE
  • 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:32.040
  • HAD DONE THIS.
  • 00:17:32.040 --> 00:17:32.260
  • AND THEN THOSE WHO WERE
  • 00:17:32.260 --> 00:17:34.060
  • WATCHING ON TELEVISION HAD
  • 00:17:34.060 --> 00:17:35.110
  • A CLEAR PICTURE, UNFORTUNATELY,
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:37.120
  • BECAUSE OF WHAT WE WERE
  • 00:17:37.120 --> 00:17:38.120
  • WATCHING IN THE NORTH TOWER.
  • 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:40.200
  • BUT THERE YOU ARE IN
  • 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:41.130
  • A STAIRWELL TRYING TO GET OUT.
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:43.120
  • YOU HEAR A SECOND EXPLOSION.
  • 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:45.150
  • WERE YOU CONCERNED THEN
  • 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:47.030
  • FOR YOUR WIFE?
  • 00:17:47.030 --> 00:17:47.260
  • WERE YOU CONCERNED IMMEDIATELY?
  • 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:49.010
  • WHAT --
  • 00:17:49.010 --> 00:17:49.210
  • SUJO JOHN: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:50.150
  • WE KNEW IT WAS A PLANE,
  • 00:17:50.150 --> 00:17:51.080
  • BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS --
  • 00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:52.080
  • IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT FOR
  • 00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:54.110
  • A YOUNG AUDIENCE THAT'S WATCHING
  • 00:17:54.110 --> 00:17:55.110
  • US TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
  • 00:17:55.110 --> 00:17:56.200
  • -- BACK THEN YOU HAD PAGERS.
  • 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.110
  • PHONES WEREN'T WORKING.
  • 00:17:58.110 --> 00:17:59.160
  • AND SOMEONE ACTUALLY GOT A PAGE
  • 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.030
  • THAT A PLANE HAS CRASHED
  • 00:18:01.030 --> 00:18:02.010
  • INTO THE TOWERS.
  • 00:18:02.010 --> 00:18:03.050
  • BUT FOR ME,
  • 00:18:03.050 --> 00:18:03.240
  • ALL OF THAT, IT WAS NOT
  • 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:04.170
  • MAKING SENSE.
  • 00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:05.120
  • AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY WIFE.
  • 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:07.010
  • AND WE START RUNNING DOWN,
  • 00:18:07.010 --> 00:18:08.090
  • CONTINUING OUR WAY DOWN.
  • 00:18:08.090 --> 00:18:09.220
  • BUT THE STORY TAKES ANOTHER
  • 00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:10.240
  • TURN NOW.
  • 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:11.160
  • WHEN WE GET TO THE 43RD
  • 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:12.210
  • OR THE 44TH FLOOR,
  • 00:18:12.210 --> 00:18:14.010
  • WHEN WE SEE THESE
  • 00:18:14.010 --> 00:18:14.290
  • INCREDIBLY BRAVE FIREMEN,
  • 00:18:14.290 --> 00:18:16.050
  • POLICEMEN MAKING THEIR WAY UP.
  • 00:18:16.050 --> 00:18:18.040
  • AND THAT'S WHEN WE FELT THAT
  • 00:18:18.040 --> 00:18:19.150
  • THERE HAD TO BE A WAY OUT
  • 00:18:19.150 --> 00:18:20.140
  • OF THIS BUILDING.
  • 00:18:20.140 --> 00:18:21.180
  • THESE MEN HAD MADE THEIR WAY
  • 00:18:21.180 --> 00:18:22.160
  • INTO THE BUILDING.
  • 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:23.220
  • BUT WE HAD NO IDEA THEN THAT
  • 00:18:23.220 --> 00:18:25.070
  • WOULD BE THE LAST TIME AMERICA
  • 00:18:25.070 --> 00:18:26.160
  • WOULD BE SEEING
  • 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:27.110
  • THESE BRAVE MEN.
  • 00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:28.200
  • WE HIGH FIVED THEM, SAYING,
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.210
  • YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL HEROES;
  • 00:18:29.210 --> 00:18:30.270
  • GOD BE WITH YOU.
  • 00:18:30.270 --> 00:18:32.020
  • AND I CONTINUED MY DESCENT DOWN
  • 00:18:32.020 --> 00:18:33.130
  • WITH THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:34.290
  • THAT WERE RUNNING DOWN
  • 00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:35.180
  • THE STAIRWELL.
  • 00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:36.220
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW ONE GROUP
  • 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:37.260
  • OF PEOPLE IS RUNNING OUT
  • 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:38.280
  • WITH THE FEAR OF DEATH.
  • 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:40.110
  • THE OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE'S
  • 00:18:40.110 --> 00:18:41.060
  • RUNNING IN.
  • 00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:42.160
  • SAME FEAR;
  • 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.290
  • JUST A DIFFERENT METHOD
  • 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:44.290
  • OF FACING IT.
  • 00:18:44.290 --> 00:18:46.050
  • SUJO JOHN: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:18:46.050 --> 00:18:46.270
  • AND I KNOW,
  • 00:18:46.270 --> 00:18:47.220
  • KNOWING HOW BOTH YOU GUYS ARE
  • 00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:49.210
  • WITH YOUR SHOW AND WHAT YOU
  • 00:18:49.210 --> 00:18:50.230
  • STAND FOR, I WANT TO SAY THIS.
  • 00:18:50.230 --> 00:18:52.230
  • YOU KNOW ON 9/11,
  • 00:18:52.230 --> 00:18:53.270
  • THE WORST FORM OF EVIL CAME
  • 00:18:53.270 --> 00:18:56.200
  • AND ATTACKED AMERICA.
  • 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.240
  • IT WAS RADICAL ISLAMIC
  • 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:58.170
  • TERRORISM THAT CAME
  • 00:18:58.170 --> 00:18:59.230
  • AND ATTACKED THIS COUNTRY.
  • 00:18:59.230 --> 00:19:01.060
  • AND THE FIRST RESPONSE TO
  • 00:19:01.060 --> 00:19:02.070
  • THAT TERROR DIDN'T REALLY COME
  • 00:19:02.070 --> 00:19:03.130
  • TO THE MILITARY.
  • 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:04.130
  • THE FIRST RESPONSE WAS
  • 00:19:04.130 --> 00:19:05.070
  • THROUGH THESE MEN.
  • 00:19:05.070 --> 00:19:06.180
  • THEY SHOWED THE WORLD WHAT
  • 00:19:06.180 --> 00:19:07.110
  • THIS COUNTRY WAS MADE ABOUT;
  • 00:19:07.110 --> 00:19:09.020
  • THAT THEY'RE MEN AND WOMEN
  • 00:19:09.020 --> 00:19:10.280
  • WILLING TO LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES
  • 00:19:10.280 --> 00:19:12.130
  • SO THAT OTHERS LIKE ME CAN BE
  • 00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:13.250
  • AROUND TO BE SHARING
  • 00:19:13.250 --> 00:19:14.180
  • OUR STORIES.
  • 00:19:14.180 --> 00:19:15.070
  • MATT HAGEE: SO YOU START
  • 00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:16.020
  • TO MAKE YOUR WAY OUT.
  • 00:19:16.020 --> 00:19:16.270
  • YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR WIFE.
  • 00:19:16.270 --> 00:19:18.130
  • HOW DID THAT STORY END?
  • 00:19:18.130 --> 00:19:20.060
  • SUJO JOHN: SO I CAME DOWN
  • 00:19:20.060 --> 00:19:21.030
  • 81 FLOORS,
  • 00:19:21.030 --> 00:19:21.250
  • AND I'M STILL IN THE BUILDING.
  • 00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:22.210
  • I'M AT THE PLAZA LEVEL.
  • 00:19:22.210 --> 00:19:24.030
  • WE LOOK OUT AND WE SEE BODIES
  • 00:19:24.030 --> 00:19:25.100
  • OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUMPED OUT
  • 00:19:25.100 --> 00:19:26.080
  • OF THE BUILDING,
  • 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:27.050
  • THE FUSELAGE OF THE PLANE
  • 00:19:27.050 --> 00:19:28.080
  • LYING THERE BURNING.
  • 00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:29.190
  • AND WE WERE TOLD,
  • 00:19:29.190 --> 00:19:30.180
  • AVOID THE SCENE OF DEATH;
  • 00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:31.200
  • GO DOWN ONE MORE LEVEL
  • 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:32.230
  • TO THE LOWEST LEVEL,
  • 00:19:32.230 --> 00:19:34.020
  • AND THEN GET OUT OF THIS
  • 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:34.250
  • BUILDING.
  • 00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:35.220
  • SO I REACHED THE CONQUEROR'S
  • 00:19:35.220 --> 00:19:36.220
  • LEVEL,
  • 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:37.210
  • AND I'M LOOK FOR A PLACE TO GO
  • 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:39.070
  • TO LOOK FOR MY WIFE.
  • 00:19:39.070 --> 00:19:40.030
  • AND I'M THINKING,
  • 00:19:40.030 --> 00:19:40.230
  • IF SHE HAS NOT MADE HER WAY
  • 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:42.040
  • INTO HER TOWER,
  • 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:42.290
  • SHE COULD BE THERE.
  • 00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:44.080
  • ANYWAY,
  • 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:44.240
  • THAT'S WHERE MY STORY BEGINS.
  • 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.000
  • I'M 15-20 FEET AWAY FROM
  • 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.090
  • THE SOUTH TOWER WHEN THE
  • 00:19:47.090 --> 00:19:48.180
  • SOUTH TOWER BEGINS TO IMPLODE
  • 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:50.020
  • AND GO DOWN.
  • 00:19:50.020 --> 00:19:51.110
  • AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A BOMB.
  • 00:19:51.110 --> 00:19:52.080
  • AND I OFTEN TELL FOLKS THAT
  • 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:53.180
  • IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE
  • 00:19:53.180 --> 00:19:54.270
  • I FIND MYSELF WALKING THROUGH
  • 00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:55.230
  • THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW
  • 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:56.170
  • OF DEATH.
  • 00:19:56.170 --> 00:19:57.130
  • AND I'M SAYING, GOD,
  • 00:19:57.130 --> 00:19:58.020
  • YOU GAVE ME THIS OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:19:58.020 --> 00:19:59.010
  • TO COME DOWN 81 FLOORS,
  • 00:19:59.010 --> 00:20:00.240
  • BUT DEATH HAS CAUGHT UP
  • 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:01.210
  • WITH ME.
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:02.230
  • SO TILL THEN,
  • 00:20:02.230 --> 00:20:03.270
  • YOU KNOW I'M KIND OF
  • 00:20:03.270 --> 00:20:04.160
  • EMBARRASSED TO SAY THIS,
  • 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:05.110
  • BUT THIS IS THE REALITY;
  • 00:20:05.110 --> 00:20:06.220
  • I WAS A CLOSET CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:20:06.220 --> 00:20:08.150
  • I WOULD NEVER BE VOCAL
  • 00:20:08.150 --> 00:20:09.110
  • ABOUT MY FAITH.
  • 00:20:09.110 --> 00:20:10.190
  • AND AS I'M FACING DEATH,
  • 00:20:10.190 --> 00:20:11.210
  • I'M CRYING OUT, SAYING,
  • 00:20:11.210 --> 00:20:12.160
  • GOD, IF I DIE HERE,
  • 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:13.190
  • WHERE WILL I GO?
  • 00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:14.230
  • I HAD THIS PIECE OF HEAVEN,
  • 00:20:14.230 --> 00:20:15.290
  • JOHN 14 BECOMES REAL TO ME: DO
  • 00:20:15.290 --> 00:20:17.210
  • NOT BE TROUBLED.
  • 00:20:17.210 --> 00:20:18.180
  • TRUST IN GOD.
  • 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:19.090
  • TRUST ALSO IN ME.
  • 00:20:19.090 --> 00:20:20.150
  • IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE
  • 00:20:20.150 --> 00:20:21.070
  • ARE MANY MANSIONS.
  • 00:20:21.070 --> 00:20:22.170
  • SO I KNEW WHERE I WAS HEADING.
  • 00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:24.070
  • AND 15-20 PEOPLE WITH ME,
  • 00:20:24.070 --> 00:20:25.260
  • AS THE BUILDING IS IMPLODING.
  • 00:20:25.260 --> 00:20:27.050
  • THE GLASS IS SHATTERING.
  • 00:20:27.050 --> 00:20:28.170
  • WE HAVE BEEN SUCKED INTO
  • 00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:29.140
  • THIS VACUUM.
  • 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:30.150
  • I'M HUDDLED ON TOP OF
  • 00:20:30.150 --> 00:20:31.070
  • MEN AND WOMEN,
  • 00:20:31.070 --> 00:20:31.260
  • AND THERE ARE MEN AND WOMEN
  • 00:20:31.260 --> 00:20:32.160
  • ON TOP OF ME.
  • 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:33.200
  • AND A VOICE FROM THE BIBLE
  • 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:34.260
  • PLAYS IN MY MIND.
  • 00:20:34.260 --> 00:20:35.220
  • IT'S ROMANS 10:13,
  • 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:37.150
  • "WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL
  • 00:20:37.150 --> 00:20:38.090
  • UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD
  • 00:20:38.090 --> 00:20:39.060
  • SHALL BE SAVED."
  • 00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:40.220
  • AND THIS BOLDNESS COMES
  • 00:20:40.220 --> 00:20:41.270
  • UPON ME AND I TELL FOLKS,
  • 00:20:41.270 --> 00:20:43.030
  • THAT WAS MY MOMENT OF COMING
  • 00:20:43.030 --> 00:20:44.020
  • OUT OF THE CLOSET.
  • 00:20:44.020 --> 00:20:45.070
  • I START CRYING OUT, JESUS,
  • 00:20:45.070 --> 00:20:46.270
  • AND ASKED THOSE 15 TO 20 PEOPLE
  • 00:20:46.270 --> 00:20:48.040
  • TO CALL ON THE NAME
  • 00:20:48.040 --> 00:20:48.250
  • OF THE LORD.
  • 00:20:48.250 --> 00:20:49.260
  • THEY PRAYED WITH ME.
  • 00:20:49.260 --> 00:20:51.150
  • AND THEN WE MOVED
  • 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:52.050
  • FROM THAT HUDDLE.
  • 00:20:52.050 --> 00:20:52.210
  • I'M LYING THERE WITH MY FACE
  • 00:20:52.210 --> 00:20:53.230
  • FLAT ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:54.270
  • I'VE BEEN BURIED IN DEBRIS.
  • 00:20:54.270 --> 00:20:56.120
  • AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING
  • 00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:56.290
  • TO DIE.
  • 00:20:56.290 --> 00:20:57.240
  • BUT AFTER A FEW MINUTES,
  • 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.180
  • I FEEL SOMEONE PULL ME.
  • 00:20:58.180 --> 00:21:00.250
  • SOMEONE'S PULLING ME,
  • 00:21:00.250 --> 00:21:01.160
  • AND I REACH OUT AND I BEGIN
  • 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:02.140
  • TO PULL HIM.
  • 00:21:02.140 --> 00:21:03.130
  • IT TURNS OUT THIS IS
  • 00:21:03.130 --> 00:21:04.080
  • AN FBI AGENT.
  • 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:05.130
  • HE HAS A JACKET THAT READS
  • 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:06.140
  • "FBI."
  • 00:21:06.140 --> 00:21:07.150
  • SO I ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION:
  • 00:21:07.150 --> 00:21:08.180
  • DO YOU KNOW JESUS?
  • 00:21:08.180 --> 00:21:09.130
  • HE SAID HE DID.
  • 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:10.090
  • AND WE BOTH START PRAYING,
  • 00:21:10.090 --> 00:21:11.250
  • SAYING, GOD, IF IT'S YOUR WILL,
  • 00:21:11.250 --> 00:21:12.250
  • SHOW US A WAY OUT OF
  • 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:13.180
  • THIS PLACE.
  • 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:14.150
  • WE WERE CHOKING,
  • 00:21:14.150 --> 00:21:15.220
  • STRUGGLING TO BREATHE.
  • 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:16.180
  • WE COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING;
  • 00:21:16.180 --> 00:21:17.260
  • A CLOUD, SOOT, AND ASH.
  • 00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:19.150
  • BUT MIRACULOUSLY A RED LIGHT
  • 00:21:19.150 --> 00:21:21.110
  • FLASHING THROUGH ALL OF THAT
  • 00:21:21.110 --> 00:21:22.250
  • WAS A FLASHING LIGHT FROM AN
  • 00:21:22.250 --> 00:21:23.200
  • AMBULANCE, WHICH WAS CRUSHED,
  • 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.170
  • BUT THE LIGHT WAS SPARED.
  • 00:21:25.170 --> 00:21:26.230
  • SO WE CRAWLED OUR WAY OUT
  • 00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:28.160
  • AND GOT TO THE STREET LEVEL.
  • 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:30.070
  • AND THAT'S WHEN THIS GUY LET GO
  • 00:21:30.070 --> 00:21:31.210
  • OF MY HAND, AND HE SAYS,
  • 00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:32.190
  • I'VE GOT TO GO BACK
  • 00:21:32.190 --> 00:21:33.110
  • AND GET MORE PEOPLE.
  • 00:21:33.110 --> 00:21:34.080
  • HE RUNS BACK TO LOOK FOR
  • 00:21:34.080 --> 00:21:35.180
  • MORE PEOPLE.
  • 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:36.170
  • THE NORTH TOWER IMPLODES
  • 00:21:36.170 --> 00:21:37.180
  • AND GOES DOWN.
  • 00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:38.150
  • THIS BRAVE MAN DIED THAT DAY.
  • 00:21:38.150 --> 00:21:40.000
  • HE'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY FBI AGENT
  • 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:41.170
  • TO HAVE DIED THAT DAY.
  • 00:21:41.170 --> 00:21:43.000
  • SO I'M OUT OF THE DEBRIS.
  • 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.110
  • ALL THE TOWERS HAVE COLLAPSED.
  • 00:21:44.110 --> 00:21:45.220
  • I'VE GIVEN UP HOPE
  • 00:21:45.220 --> 00:21:46.120
  • ABOUT MY WIFE.
  • 00:21:46.120 --> 00:21:47.180
  • AND I'M ANGRY AT GOD, SAYING,
  • 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:48.180
  • GOD, WHY DID YOU SPARE ME?
  • 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:49.250
  • MY WIFE IS DEAD.
  • 00:21:49.250 --> 00:21:51.020
  • LATE THAT DAY,
  • 00:21:51.020 --> 00:21:51.280
  • MY CELL PHONE RINGS
  • 00:21:51.280 --> 00:21:52.250
  • FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME.
  • 00:21:52.250 --> 00:21:54.050
  • WHEN I SAID, "HELLO,"
  • 00:21:54.050 --> 00:21:54.250
  • IT'S MY WIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
  • 00:21:54.250 --> 00:21:56.240
  • HER LIFE WAS SPARED.
  • 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.090
  • MATT HAGEE: WOW.
  • 00:21:58.090 --> 00:21:58.280
  • YOU KNOW "DEFINING MOMENTS" IS
  • 00:21:58.280 --> 00:22:01.230
  • OUR TOPIC,
  • 00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:02.110
  • AND CERTAINLY YOU'VE LIVED
  • 00:22:02.110 --> 00:22:03.120
  • THROUGH ONE.
  • 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:04.120
  • IT'S INTERESTING HOW YOU
  • 00:22:04.120 --> 00:22:06.260
  • MENTIONED BEING A CLOSET
  • 00:22:06.260 --> 00:22:08.080
  • CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:08.250
  • SO MANY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID
  • 00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:11.080
  • OF CHRISTIANITY UNTIL THEY FIND
  • 00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:13.230
  • SOMETHING THAT IS EVEN MORE
  • 00:22:13.230 --> 00:22:15.120
  • FEARFUL,
  • 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:16.190
  • AND THAT'S LIFE WITHOUT IT.
  • 00:22:16.190 --> 00:22:18.080
  • AND WHEN YOU FACED THIS SHADOW
  • 00:22:18.080 --> 00:22:21.040
  • OF DEATH AND THIS FEAR
  • 00:22:21.040 --> 00:22:22.160
  • OF DEATH,
  • 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:23.160
  • YOU RECOGNIZED THAT THE ONLY
  • 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:24.160
  • FORCE WITHIN YOU THAT WAS ABLE
  • 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.050
  • TO CONQUER THAT VOICE
  • 00:22:26.050 --> 00:22:27.210
  • THAT WAS SCREAMING AT YOU
  • 00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:29.250
  • AND SURROUNDING YOU WITH
  • 00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:30.290
  • THIS DREADFUL CLOUD OF DEATH
  • 00:22:30.290 --> 00:22:33.040
  • WAS YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH
  • 00:22:33.040 --> 00:22:35.060
  • AND THAT FAITH IN CHRIST.
  • 00:22:35.060 --> 00:22:36.220
  • IT'S AN AMAZING THING TO ME
  • 00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:38.200
  • TO HEAR THAT STORY AND TO FEEL
  • 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:39.290
  • JUST EVEN THE PRESENCE OF GOD
  • 00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:41.060
  • IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW,
  • 00:22:41.060 --> 00:22:42.290
  • JUST TO OVERCOME THOSE THINGS
  • 00:22:42.290 --> 00:22:44.170
  • IN OUR LIVES THAT CAUSE US
  • 00:22:44.170 --> 00:22:46.240
  • TO BE AFRAID OF THE OUTCOME.
  • 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.200
  • THERE IS NO OUTCOME THAT GOD
  • 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.060
  • HASN'T WEIGHED IN THE SCALES,
  • 00:22:50.060 --> 00:22:51.170
  • AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:52.250
  • MY CHILDREN CAN HANDLE THIS;
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:54.040
  • I'M GOING TO ALLOW IT.
  • 00:22:54.040 --> 00:22:55.130
  • AND SO FOR SHARING THAT
  • 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:57.050
  • TESTIMONY AND THE THINGS YOU'RE
  • 00:22:57.050 --> 00:22:58.040
  • DOING, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
  • 00:22:58.040 --> 00:22:59.290
  • WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
  • 00:22:59.290 --> 00:23:01.060
  • BACK WITH SUJO,
  • 00:23:01.060 --> 00:23:03.050
  • AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK TO
  • 00:23:03.050 --> 00:23:04.030
  • DISCUSS MORE DEFINING MOMENTS,
  • 00:23:04.030 --> 00:23:05.290
  • AND HOW THEY'VE CHANGED LIVES,
  • 00:23:05.290 --> 00:23:07.230
  • AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW
  • 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:09.160
  • WITH THE LIFE THAT THEY'VE BEEN
  • 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.180
  • GIVEN SINCE GOD'S GRACE
  • 00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:12.090
  • HAS SPARED THEM FOR A MOMENT
  • 00:23:12.090 --> 00:23:13.220
  • LIKE THIS.
  • 00:23:13.220 --> 00:23:14.150
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
  • 00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:15.030
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:23:15.030 --> 00:23:18.030
  • THIS CHRISTMAS,
  • 00:23:18.030 --> 00:23:20.050
  • PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD
  • 00:23:20.050 --> 00:23:21.260
  • WILL GATHER AROUND THE TREE
  • 00:23:21.260 --> 00:23:23.020
  • AND CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:23.020 --> 00:23:25.220
  • BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE
  • 00:23:25.220 --> 00:23:26.160
  • WITH BROKEN FAMILIES,
  • 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.130
  • RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ALONE,
  • 00:23:28.130 --> 00:23:30.110
  • BARELY ABLE TO GIVE THEM
  • 00:23:30.110 --> 00:23:31.100
  • A CHRISTMAS AT ALL?
  • 00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:33.060
  • THIS HOLIDAY SEASON,
  • 00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:34.130
  • LET'S UNIFY
  • 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:35.060
  • THROUGH OUR GIVING
  • 00:23:35.060 --> 00:23:36.090
  • TO BE A FAMILY TO THOSE
  • 00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:37.170
  • WITHOUT ONE.
  • 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:39.080
  • FOR A GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT
  • 00:23:39.080 --> 00:23:40.150
  • TO JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
  • 00:23:40.150 --> 00:23:42.010
  • WE'D LIKE TO SEND YOU A FREE
  • 00:23:42.010 --> 00:23:43.130
  • "HAGEE'S CHRISTMAS" ALBUM.
  • 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:44.290
  • AND FOR A TAX-DEDUCTIBLE GIFT
  • 00:23:44.290 --> 00:23:46.070
  • OF $150 OR MORE,
  • 00:23:46.070 --> 00:23:48.120
  • WE'LL SEND YOU
  • 00:23:48.120 --> 00:23:49.010
  • THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM
  • 00:23:49.010 --> 00:23:50.020
  • ALONG WITH A "PROPHETIC BIBLE"
  • 00:23:50.020 --> 00:23:51.070
  • AND "DAILY TRUTH DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:23:51.070 --> 00:23:52.230
  • ALL PROCEEDS WILL GO TO
  • 00:23:52.230 --> 00:23:53.230
  • THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE.
  • 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:56.060
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: THANK YOU
  • 00:23:56.060 --> 00:23:57.030
  • FOR HELPING US GO INTO
  • 00:23:57.030 --> 00:23:58.060
  • THE NEW YEAR FINANCIALLY
  • 00:23:58.060 --> 00:23:59.100
  • STRONGER AND READY TO SHARE
  • 00:23:59.100 --> 00:24:00.230
  • THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS
  • 00:24:00.230 --> 00:24:02.160
  • OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:03.230
  • TOGETHER WE ARE MAKING
  • 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:04.200
  • A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:05.200
  • FROM ALL OF US
  • 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:06.090
  • AT JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
  • 00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:07.250
  • MERRY CHRISTMAS
  • 00:24:07.250 --> 00:24:08.200
  • AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
  • 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.230
  • TO GIVE YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE
  • 00:24:10.230 --> 00:24:11.290
  • GIFT,
  • 00:24:11.290 --> 00:24:12.170
  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
  • 00:24:12.170 --> 00:24:15.140
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/UNITY.
  • 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:18.140
  • AT AN EARLY AGE,
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:19.280
  • JOHN HAGEE HAD A HEART TO HELP
  • 00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:22.050
  • ORPHANS AND THE UNBORN.
  • 00:24:22.050 --> 00:24:24.130
  • FROM THAT DREAM, CAME A VISION.
  • 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:27.040
  • AND NOW, "SANCTUARY OF HOPE"
  • 00:24:27.040 --> 00:24:29.130
  • IS BECOMING A REALITY,
  • 00:24:29.130 --> 00:24:31.230
  • A REFUGE FOR ORPHANED CHILDREN
  • 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:33.230
  • SEEKING A LASTING AND LOVING
  • 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:35.080
  • FAMILY,
  • 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:35.290
  • A REFUGE FOR UNWED MOTHERS WHO
  • 00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:37.260
  • CHOOSE TO GIVE THE GIFT OF LIFE.
  • 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:41.130
  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: WHILE WE
  • 00:24:41.130 --> 00:24:42.170
  • CAN'T HELP ALL OF THEM;
  • 00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:43.210
  • WE CAN HELP SOME OF THEM.
  • 00:24:43.210 --> 00:24:45.150
  • AND BECAUSE WE CAN,
  • 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:47.030
  • WE SHOULD.
  • 00:24:47.030 --> 00:24:48.070
  • AND BECAUSE THIS IS THE
  • 00:24:48.070 --> 00:24:49.100
  • COMMISSION OF GOD,
  • 00:24:49.100 --> 00:24:50.230
  • WE ARE.
  • 00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:52.120
  • PASTOR MATT HAGEE: THE SANCTUARY
  • 00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:53.230
  • OF HOPE IS A PLACE WHERE THE
  • 00:24:53.230 --> 00:24:54.280
  • UNBORN WILL RECEIVE A LIFE
  • 00:24:54.280 --> 00:24:56.040
  • SENTENCE INSTEAD OF A DEATH
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.140
  • SENTENCE.
  • 00:24:57.140 --> 00:24:59.090
  • HELP US BUILD THE LEGACY OUR
  • 00:24:59.090 --> 00:25:01.020
  • NEXT GENERATIONS DESERVE
  • 00:25:01.020 --> 00:25:03.150
  • BUT CANNOT HAVE WITHOUT YOU.
  • 00:25:04.060 --> 00:25:07.060
  • HELP GIVE THE GIFT OF LIFE.
  • 00:25:07.060 --> 00:25:09.230
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN,
  • 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:11.180
  • OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
  • 00:25:13.100 --> 00:25:16.100
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:25:16.270 --> 00:25:19.270
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO
  • 00:25:19.270 --> 00:25:20.260
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:25:20.260 --> 00:25:21.180
  • DAVE, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT
  • 00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:22.230
  • WHAT WAS YOUR MISSION WHEN YOU
  • 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:24.040
  • ESCAPED THAT WRECKAGE FROM THAT
  • 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:25.110
  • DAY?
  • 00:25:25.110 --> 00:25:25.260
  • TELL US;
  • 00:25:25.260 --> 00:25:26.130
  • WHAT WAS YOUR MISSION AFTER
  • 00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:27.040
  • THAT?
  • 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:27.230
  • DAVE SANDERSON: WELL,
  • 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:28.150
  • MY PASTOR TOLD ME I WENT
  • 00:25:28.150 --> 00:25:29.070
  • INTO THE WATER ONE PERSON
  • 00:25:29.070 --> 00:25:30.040
  • AND CAME OUT A DIFFERENT PERSON.
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:31.040
  • IT'S LIKE REBAPTISM.
  • 00:25:31.040 --> 00:25:32.140
  • SO MY MISSION REALLY STARTED
  • 00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:34.100
  • AT THE BEGINNING,
  • 00:25:34.100 --> 00:25:35.010
  • HOW CAN I TAKE THIS MIRACLE
  • 00:25:35.010 --> 00:25:35.270
  • ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,
  • 00:25:35.270 --> 00:25:36.170
  • NOW ALL OVER THE WORLD,
  • 00:25:36.170 --> 00:25:37.170
  • AND SHARE THAT GOD'S GRACE
  • 00:25:37.170 --> 00:25:38.170
  • IS STILL HERE.
  • 00:25:38.170 --> 00:25:40.010
  • AND THAT'S WHAT MY MISSION
  • 00:25:40.010 --> 00:25:41.010
  • IS EVERY DAY.
  • 00:25:41.010 --> 00:25:41.210
  • AND THAT'S WHY I SPEAK ALL OVER
  • 00:25:41.210 --> 00:25:42.200
  • THE WORLD.
  • 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:43.260
  • MATT HAGEE: SO YOU'RE SHARING
  • 00:25:43.260 --> 00:25:44.210
  • WITH PEOPLE HOW GOD'S GRACE WAS
  • 00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:46.230
  • WITH YOU THAT DAY
  • 00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:47.200
  • AND HOW IT'S WITH THEM.
  • 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.200
  • SUJO, YOU'VE SHARED
  • 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:49.240
  • HOW WINNING THE SOULS OF MEN
  • 00:25:49.250 --> 00:25:52.250
  • HAS BECOME A PASSION
  • 00:25:52.250 --> 00:25:54.150
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:25:54.150 --> 00:25:56.170
  • WHAT IS IT THAT,
  • 00:25:56.170 --> 00:25:57.140
  • IF PEOPLE WANT TO --
  • 00:25:57.140 --> 00:25:58.170
  • WHO ARE WATCHING THE SHOW,
  • 00:25:58.170 --> 00:25:59.050
  • WANT TO HAVE YOU COME AND SPEAK
  • 00:25:59.050 --> 00:26:00.120
  • TO ONE OF THEIR GROUPS,
  • 00:26:00.120 --> 00:26:01.020
  • HOW DO THEY REACH YOU?
  • 00:26:01.020 --> 00:26:02.060
  • SUJO JOHN: THEY CAN GO ON
  • 00:26:02.060 --> 00:26:02.290
  • OUR WEBSITE, SUJO JOHN.COM,
  • 00:26:02.290 --> 00:26:04.260
  • AND THEY CAN FIND OUT ABOUT US.
  • 00:26:04.260 --> 00:26:06.030
  • AND BEYOND JUST TELLING THEM
  • 00:26:06.030 --> 00:26:08.100
  • ABOUT JESUS,
  • 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:09.170
  • MY MISSION NOW IS ALSO,
  • 00:26:09.170 --> 00:26:11.080
  • HOW DO YOU MAKE THE GOSPEL SEED?
  • 00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:12.270
  • SO WE NOW RESCUE GIRLS FROM
  • 00:26:12.270 --> 00:26:14.220
  • TRAPPED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING
  • 00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:15.280
  • JUST LIKE I WAS TRAPPED
  • 00:26:15.280 --> 00:26:16.240
  • IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
  • 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.210
  • SO WE STARTED A WORK CALLED
  • 00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:18.230
  • "YOU CAN FREE US,"
  • 00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:19.250
  • WHICH IS IN INDIA AND EUROPE,
  • 00:26:19.250 --> 00:26:21.160
  • PULLING GIRLS WHO ARE SOLD.
  • 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:22.250
  • AND AS YOU KNOW, MATT,
  • 00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:23.250
  • HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS TRULY
  • 00:26:23.250 --> 00:26:24.290
  • AN EVIL OF OUR TIMES.
  • 00:26:24.290 --> 00:26:26.080
  • MATT HAGEE: IT IS A TERRIBLE,
  • 00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:27.170
  • TERRIBLE EVIL THAT NEEDS
  • 00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:29.010
  • TO BE CONFRONTED AND STOPPED.
  • 00:26:29.010 --> 00:26:30.140
  • AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE USING YOUR
  • 00:26:30.140 --> 00:26:32.070
  • GIFTS AND TALENTS TO DO THAT.
  • 00:26:32.070 --> 00:26:33.270
  • IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET IN TOUCH
  • 00:26:33.270 --> 00:26:34.250
  • WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
  • 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:36.170
  • FIND OUT HOW THEY CAN GET YOU
  • 00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:37.260
  • TO COME AND TELL YOUR STORY,
  • 00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:39.200
  • EVEN FIND THE BOOK
  • 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:40.130
  • "MOMENTS MATTER,"
  • 00:26:40.130 --> 00:26:41.040
  • WHERE DO THEY GO?
  • 00:26:41.040 --> 00:26:41.250
  • DAVE SANDERSON: THEY CAN GO TO
  • 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:42.160
  • MY WEBSITE
  • 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:43.110
  • DAVE SANDERSON SPEAKS.COM.
  • 00:26:43.110 --> 00:26:44.070
  • THEY CAN GET IN CONTACT
  • 00:26:44.070 --> 00:26:45.000
  • WITH ME THERE.
  • 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:45.150
  • AND I ANSWER EVERYBODY
  • 00:26:45.150 --> 00:26:46.100
  • PERSONALLY.
  • 00:26:46.100 --> 00:26:47.030
  • I HAVE NO INTERFERENCE
  • 00:26:47.030 --> 00:26:47.290
  • WHATSOEVER.
  • 00:26:47.290 --> 00:26:48.180
  • I MAKE SURE I TOUCH EVERYBODY
  • 00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:50.060
  • I TALK TO,
  • 00:26:50.060 --> 00:26:50.290
  • BECAUSE GOD'S GRACE CAN NEVER
  • 00:26:50.290 --> 00:26:51.260
  • BE TAKEN AWAY.
  • 00:26:51.260 --> 00:26:53.060
  • SOMEONE HAS TO SHARE THE STORY
  • 00:26:53.060 --> 00:26:54.210
  • AND THAT'S ONE OF MY MISSIONS.
  • 00:26:54.210 --> 00:26:55.260
  • MATT HAGEE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:26:55.260 --> 00:26:56.160
  • YOU KNOW THERE ARE MOMENTS
  • 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.160
  • THAT DEFINE OUR LIVES.
  • 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.170
  • AND PRAYERFULLY, IN SOME WAY,
  • 00:26:59.170 --> 00:27:01.210
  • MAYBE THIS PROGRAM TODAY
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  • DID THAT FOR YOU.
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  • MAYBE YOU HEARD SOMETHING
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  • THAT CAUSED A COMPLAISANT PLACE
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  • IN YOUR LIFE TO COME ALIVE
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  • WITH ACTION;
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  • THAT CAUSES YOU TO DECIDE THAT
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  • WITH THE POWER OF GOD IN YOU,
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  • YOU CAN CHANGE THE WORLD.
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  • THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE
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  • A DIFFERENCE.
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  • AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
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  • WATCHING,
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  • THE DIFFERENCE WITH MATT
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  • AND KENDAL.
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  • THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART
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  • OF OUR SHOW.
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  • (APPLAUSE)
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