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Let's Talk with Brian Houston

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February 27, 2017
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    • - Brian Houston: Well, today,
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    • - Brian Houston: Well, today,
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    • I get to speak to
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    • Pastor Benny Perez
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    • from the church LV in Las Vegas.
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    • from the church LV in Las Vegas.
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    • - Benny Perez: Even though you
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    • denied him, even though you
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    • denied him, even though you
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    • abandoned him, even though you
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    • abandoned him, even though you
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    • didn't keep your promise,
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    • didn't keep your promise,
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    • I am glad for a Jesus that says,
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    • I am glad for a Jesus that says,
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    • "I am still coming after you."
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    • "I am still coming after you."
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    • - Brian: He's going to talk
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    • - Brian: He's going to talk
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    • to us about life and leadership.
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    • to us about life and leadership.
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    • - Benny: it's easy when
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    • - Benny: it's easy when
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    • the church is growing,
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    • the church is growing,
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    • and it's vibrant, it's alive.
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    • and it's vibrant, it's alive.
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    • And you know, people are
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    • And you know, people are
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    • recognizing what God is doing.
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    • recognizing what God is doing.
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    • And then all of a sudden,
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    • And then all of a sudden,
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    • everything hits.
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    • everything hits.
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    • And it was the toughest time
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    • And it was the toughest time
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    • of my life, both personally,
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    • of my life, both personally,
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    • emotionally, our marriage,
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    • emotionally, our marriage,
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    • everything.
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    • everything.
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    • - Brian: Some of the difficult
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    • - Brian: Some of the difficult
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    • challenges and some of
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    • challenges and some of
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    • the personal pain that
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    • the personal pain that
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    • he's had to work through.
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    • he's had to work through.
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    • - Benny: I'm driving home,
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    • - Benny: I'm driving home,
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    • and my wife's kind
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    • and my wife's kind
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    • of not acting right.
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    • of not acting right.
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    • So, we get home, we go
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    • So, we get home, we go
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    • into the garage, and my wife--
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    • into the garage, and my wife--
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    • I get her out,
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    • I get her out,
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    • and she collapses in my garage,
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    • and she collapses in my garage,
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    • and she starts bleeding out.
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    • and she starts bleeding out.
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    • - Brian: And also speak about
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    • - Brian: And also speak about
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    • some of those things
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    • that matter to him.
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    • that matter to him.
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    • - Benny: And every time
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    • - Benny: And every time
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    • they would ask in class,
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    • they would ask in class,
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    • "What's your prayer request?"
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    • "What's your prayer request?"
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    • I would always say,
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    • I would always say,
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    • "I want my family to be saved."
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    • "I want my family to be saved."
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    • - Brian: Wow.
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    • - Brian: Wow.
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    • All of this and more on
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    • All of this and more on
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    • All of this and more on
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    • All of this and more on
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    • - Brian: Well, I have
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    • - Brian: Well, I have
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    • the opportunity today to be
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    • the opportunity today to be
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    • speaking to Pastor Benny Perez.
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    • speaking to Pastor Benny Perez.
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    • And Benny is an intriguing
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    • And Benny is an intriguing
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    • person doing some great things.
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    • So, I'm sure you will
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    • So, I'm sure you will
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    • enjoy this next talk.
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    • enjoy this next talk.
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    • Hi Benny,
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    • great to have you here.
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    • great to have you here.
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    • - Benny: Thank you, Pastor
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    • - Benny: Thank you, Pastor
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    • Brian, it's good to be here.
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    • Brian, it's good to be here.
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    • Thank you so much.
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    • Thank you so much.
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    • - Brian: Good, good, good.
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    • - Brian: Good, good, good.
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    • So, Perez, where does
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    • So, Perez, where does
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    • that come from?
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    • that come from?
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    • - Benny: Hispanic.
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    • - Benny: Hispanic.
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    • Mexican-American
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    • is my background.
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    • is my background.
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    • And so, born and raised
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    • And so, born and raised
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    • in Southern California.
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    • in Southern California.
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    • So, it's good to be back here.
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    • So, it's good to be back here.
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    • It's a beautiful set that
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    • It's a beautiful set that
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    • you have here, amazing.
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    • you have here, amazing.
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    • - Brian: That's great,
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    • - Brian: That's great,
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    • nice to have you.
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    • nice to have you.
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    • So, you grew up in Orange County
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    • So, you grew up in Orange County
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    • basically?
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    • basically?
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    • - Benny: Yes.
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    • - Benny: Yes.
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    • Yeah, so I went to high school
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    • Yeah, so I went to high school
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    • at Whittier Christian High
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    • at Whittier Christian High
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    • School in La Habra, California.
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    • School in La Habra, California.
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    • And actually pursued my business
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    • And actually pursued my business
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    • degree at Cal State Fullerton.
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    • degree at Cal State Fullerton.
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    • And I actually was a senior
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    • And I actually was a senior
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    • at Cal State Fullerton getting
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    • my degree in accounting, and
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    • my degree in accounting, and
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    • then I had a God encounter on
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    • then I had a God encounter on
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    • a beach in Southern California,
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    • a beach in Southern California,
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    • and which redirected my steps.
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    • and which redirected my steps.
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    • So, I actually finished my
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    • So, I actually finished my
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    • degree at Vanguard University
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    • degree at Vanguard University
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    • - Benny: Yes.
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    • - Benny: Yes, yeah.
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    • - Brian: Well, we've all heard
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    • life.
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    • "Oh man, Lord, you know, I just
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    • - Benny: No, I am not.
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    • - Brian: Are you getting better
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    • Pastor Brian, it does become
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    • they start attacking my family,
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    • and they start saying things
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    • about my family, my kids.
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    • you know, the taller the tree,
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    • And the reality is
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    • it's part of the journey.
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    • I mean, we love accolade, but
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    • Have you ever found yourself
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    • - Benny: Yes.
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    • "Don't do it."
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    • there, even if you take it down,
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    • it's still there.
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    • that.
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    • Because again, it's not worth
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    • it, it's not worth it to go down
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    • to that level with people.
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    • - Brian: Any time you
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    • good at both, you really can't
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    • - Benny: Wow, wow.
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    • It's a nice, bright, blue
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    • - Brian: So, you've got
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    • "Discovering the God of More
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    • when Life Gives You Less."
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    • - Benny: Yes, yes.
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    • loss to be able to write a book
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    • called "More."
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    • where sin abounds, grace much
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    • more does abound.
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    • it's kind of this dichotomy of,
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    • "Man, we seem like we're losing.
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    • - Brian: That's great.
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    • - Brian: All right, so
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    • We'll believe that's a long time
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    • What would you like that to say?
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    • - Benny: He prayed.
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    • He prayed.
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    • - Brian: That's it?
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    • - Benny: That's it, he prayed.
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    • - Brian: Wow, that's amazing.
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    • - Brian: Wow, that's amazing.
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    • that is because I think praying,
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    • keeping close to Jesus, is it.
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    • and trusted in Christ."
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    • I think that's it.
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    • would love that to be on my
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    • Yeah.
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    • story will bless and help a lot
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    • story will bless and help a lot
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    • program.
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    • transparency.
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    • You're loved, and I believe with
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    • you for great, great things
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    • ahead.
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    • So, Benny Perez, appreciate it
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    • So, Benny Perez, appreciate it
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    • so much.
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    • - Benny: Thank you, thank you
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    • - Benny: Thank you, thank you
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    • so much.
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    • so much.
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