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Conviction, Commitment and Courage

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December 2, 2016
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Matthew Hagee

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Conviction, Commitment and Courage

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  • MUSIC
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  • PLEASE WELCOME
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  • MATT AND KENDAL HAGEE.
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  • (APPLAUSE)
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  • MATT HAGEE: HELLO AND WELCOME
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  • TO "THE DIFFERENCE."
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  • TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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  • "CONVICTION, COMMITMENT,
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  • AND COURAGE."
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  • HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED HOW FAST
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  • THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN
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  • IS CHANGING?
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  • OUR CULTURE IS CHANGING.
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  • TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING.
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  • EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE PICKING
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  • UP AT LIGHTNING SPEED.
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  • AND WHAT'S WRONG IS THAT
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  • WE'VE FORGOTTEN HOW TO LIVE
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  • IN A PROPER FASHION.
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  • GOD WANTS US TO KNOW THAT
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  • IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS,
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  • WE CAN LIVE WITH THREE ELEMENTS
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  • THAT ENABLE US TO MAKE
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  • THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
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  • THOSE THREE THINGS ARE
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  • CONVICTION, COMMITMENT,
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  • AND COURAGE.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • NOW TO OUR FAVORITE PART
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  • OF THE SHOW,
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  • "GOOD LORD, I'M GRATEFUL."
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  • SO HASHTAG US #GLIG.
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  • SEND IT TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
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  • PUT IT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA,
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  • ALL AVENUES, AND TELL US
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  • WHAT YOU'RE GRATEFUL FOR,
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  • BECAUSE TODAY IS THE DAY THAT
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  • THE LORD HAS MADE,
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  • AND WE WILL REJOICE
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  • AND BE MADE GLAD IN IT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW THE BIBLE
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  • TELLS US THAT WE ARE MORE THAN
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  • CONQUERORS THROUGH CHRIST,
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  • SO BE GRATEFUL FOR THE FACT
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  • THAT GOD'S PULLING FOR YOU,
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  • AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO KNOW
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  • THAT EVEN IN THE MIDST
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  • OF A DIFFICULT SITUATION,
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  • HE CAN ENABLE YOU TO COME OUT
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  • MORE THAN A CONQUEROR.
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  • OUR FIRST GUEST DEFINITELY
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  • KNOWS WHAT IT IS TO LIVE
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  • WITH A LIFE OF FAITH.
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  • HE'S GOT GREAT COMMITMENT
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  • AND A TRUE TALENT,
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  • IN LARGE PART,
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  • BECAUSE OF THE MUSICAL
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  • AND SPIRITUAL HERITAGE
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  • THAT HE HAS FROM HIS FAMILY.
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  • WOULD YOU HAD PLEASE WELCOME
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  • TO "THE DIFFERENCE"
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  • MR. GORDON MOTE.
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  • (APPLAUSE)
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  • GORDON MOTE: THANK YOU, GUYS.
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  • MUSIC
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  • THIS WORLD WILL NOT
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  • GET BETTER
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  • ON ITS OWN
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  • MORE PROBLEMS EACH DAY
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  • AND WE'RE LOSING SIGHT
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  • OF HOPE
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  • WE NEED TO ADMIT
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  • THAT WE CAN'T FIX
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  • WHAT'S GOING WRONG
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  • BUT THERE'S SOMEONE
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  • WHO CAN DO
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  • WHAT WE'VE NEEDED ALL ALONG
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • NO ONE CAN LOVE
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  • LIKE HE DOES
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  • HEART BY HEART
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  • AND ONE BY ONE
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • MUSIC
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  • IN EVERY CORNER
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  • OF THE PLANET
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  • IT'S THE SAME
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  • WE CAN'T GET ALONG
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  • BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
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  • HOW TO CHANGE
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  • NO PLAN FORMED BY MAN
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  • CAN SET US FREE INSIDE
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  • BUT THE PRINCE OF PEACE
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  • CAN REACH
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  • OUR WOUNDED HEARTS
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  • AND MINDS
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • NO ONE CAN LOVE
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  • LIKE HE DOES
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  • HEART BY HEART
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  • AND ONE BY ONE
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • HE'S A BRIDGE BETWEEN US
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  • THE SOURCE OF ALL
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  • FORGIVENESS
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  • THE PAIN THAT CONQUERS
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  • DARKNESS
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  • THE ONLY ONE
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  • WHO CAN SAVE US
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • NO ONE CAN LOVE
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  • LIKE HE DOES
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  • HEART BY HEART
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  • AND ONE BY ONE
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • EVERY MAN, WOMAN
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  • BOY AND GIRL
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  • ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD
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  • MUSIC
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  • (APPLAUSE)
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  • THIS CHRISTMAS,
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  • PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD
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  • WILL GATHER AROUND THE TREE
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  • AND CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
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  • BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE
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  • WITH BROKEN FAMILIES,
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  • RAISING THEIR CHILDREN ALONE,
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  • BARELY ABLE TO GIVE THEM
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  • A CHRISTMAS AT ALL?
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  • THIS HOLIDAY SEASON,
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  • LET'S UNIFY
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  • THROUGH OUR GIVING
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  • TO BE A FAMILY TO THOSE
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  • WITHOUT ONE.
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  • FOR A GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT
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  • TO JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
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  • WE'D LIKE TO SEND YOU A FREE
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  • "HAGEE'S CHRISTMAS" ALBUM.
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  • AND FOR A TAX-DEDUCTIBLE GIFT
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  • OF $150 OR MORE,
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  • WE'LL SEND YOU
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  • THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM
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  • ALONG WITH A "PROPHETIC BIBLE"
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  • AND "DAILY TRUTH DEVOTIONAL."
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  • ALL PROCEEDS WILL GO TO
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  • THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE.
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  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: THANK YOU
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  • FOR HELPING US GO INTO
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  • THE NEW YEAR FINANCIALLY
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  • STRONGER AND READY TO SHARE
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  • THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS
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  • OF THE WORLD.
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  • TOGETHER WE ARE MAKING
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  • A DIFFERENCE.
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  • FROM ALL OF US
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  • AT JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
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  • MERRY CHRISTMAS
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  • AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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  • TO GIVE YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE
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  • GIFT,
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  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
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  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/UNITY.
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  • GOD KNOWS THE PLANS HE HAS
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  • FOR YOU,
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  • PLANS TO GIVE YOU HOPE
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  • AND A FUTURE.
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  • SHARE THIS EXCITING MESSAGE
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  • WITH THE SPECIAL PEOPLE
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  • IN YOUR LIFE WITH
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  • A JEREMIAH 29:11 BRACELET.
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  • THIS ADJUSTABLE BANGLE BRACELET
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  • HAS THREE CHARMS.
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  • LET THIS BEAUTIFUL BRACELET
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  • ENCOURAGE YOU
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  • AND SERVE AS A REMINDER
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  • OF GOD'S PURPOSE
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  • IN YOUR LIFE.
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  • ORDER YOUR JEREMIAH 29:11
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  • BRACELET TODAY,
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  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
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  • OR VISIT US ONLINE AT JHM.ORG.
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  • JOIN US
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  • JULY 30TH THROUGH AUGUST 6TH
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  • FOR AN EXCITING WEEK
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  • AT JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES'
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  • CELEBRATION AT SEA 2017.
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  • PASTOR JOHN HAGEE: THIS IS
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  • A WONDERFUL TIME FOR YOU
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  • AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY
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  • THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD,
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  • THE FELLOWSHIP OF OTHER
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  • CHRISTIANS,
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  • AND TO KNOW WHAT IT MEANS
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  • TO BE A MEMBER
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  • OF THE BODY OF CHRIST.
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  • THIS CHRISTMAS,
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  • SEND A VERY SPECIAL GIFT
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  • THEY'LL NEVER FORGET!
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  • FOR MORE INFORMATION,
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  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
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  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: HE BLENDS
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  • INSPIRATIONAL, SOUTHERN,
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  • COUNTRY, AND POP,
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  • CREATING A MUSICAL STYLE
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  • ALL HIS OWN.
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  • MATT HAGEE: AND HE HAS
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  • AN INCREDIBLE WAY OF MAKING
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  • FAMILIAR SONGS SEEM NEW,
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  • AND NEW SONGS SEEM TIMELESS.
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  • WELCOME GORDON MOTE TO
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  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
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  • MATT HAGEE: GORDON,
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  • IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU, MAN.
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  • GORDON MOTE: HEY, KENDAL.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE'RE SO GLAD
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  • TO HAVE YOU.
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  • GORDON MOTE: WE BOTH MARRIED
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  • WAY ABOVE WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
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  • MATT HAGEE: YOU AIN'T LYING.
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  • KENDAL HAGEE: YOU'RE TOO KIND.
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  • MATT HAGEE: YEAH.
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  • GORDON MOTE: I KICKED
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  • OUR COVERAGE AND WHAT NOT.
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  • MATT HAGEE: EXACTLY.
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  • AND IT'S A WONDERFUL THING
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  • TO BE ABLE TO HEAR SONGS
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  • LIKE YOU JUST SANG.
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  • "ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL A HURTING
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  • WORLD,"
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  • WHAT A POWERFUL MESSAGE.
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  • TELL US WHAT THAT SONG MEANS
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  • TO YOU.
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  • GORDON MOTE: WELL THAT SONG
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  • ACTUALLY WAS INSPIRED BY
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  • A SERMON SERIES THAT OUR PASTOR
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  • BACK HOME AT GRACE CHAPEL
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  • IN LEAPER'S FORK, TENNESSEE,
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  • GRACECHAPEL.NET.
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  • IT'S A FREE PLUG.
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  • STEVE BERGER IS OUR PASTOR.
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  • AND HE PREACHED A SERMON
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  • A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO CALLED --
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  • A SERMON SERIES CALLED
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  • "LIVING IN PERILOUS TIMES."
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  • BUT ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL
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  • THIS HURTING WORLD.
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  • MATT HAGEE: ABSOLUTELY.
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  • YOU KNOW AS YOU SANG THAT SONG,
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  • I THOUGHT SO MUCH OF THE TIMES
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  • IN WHICH WE LIVE AND HOW
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  • THE SOLUTION TRULY IS TO BRING
  • 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:38.280
  • THE LOVE OF GOD,
  • 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:40.090
  • NOT ONLY BACK TO AMERICA,
  • 00:08:40.090 --> 00:08:42.200
  • BUT BACK TO INDIVIDUALS,
  • 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:44.190
  • PERSON TO PERSON.
  • 00:08:44.190 --> 00:08:45.260
  • YOU KNOW, "HEART TO HEART,"
  • 00:08:45.260 --> 00:08:46.250
  • AS YOU WERE SINGING
  • 00:08:46.250 --> 00:08:47.150
  • IN THAT SONG.
  • 00:08:47.150 --> 00:08:48.060
  • AND WHAT WE'RE FACING IS WHAT
  • 00:08:48.060 --> 00:08:50.060
  • WE'VE SEEN EVEN IN BIBLE TIMES.
  • 00:08:50.060 --> 00:08:52.250
  • NEBUCHADNEZZAR NEEDED A DANIEL.
  • 00:08:52.250 --> 00:08:54.200
  • GORDON MOTE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:55.130
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU KNOW HE NEEDED
  • 00:08:55.130 --> 00:08:56.150
  • SOMEBODY WHO HAD THE VOICE
  • 00:08:56.150 --> 00:08:57.090
  • OF TRUTH IN HIM TO SPEAK
  • 00:08:57.090 --> 00:08:58.120
  • INTO HIS LIFE EVEN THOUGH
  • 00:08:58.120 --> 00:08:59.210
  • HE DIDN'T SERVE JEHOVAH GOD,
  • 00:08:59.210 --> 00:09:01.030
  • SOMEONE WHO DID SERVE JEHOVAH,
  • 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:02.170
  • TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HIM,
  • 00:09:02.170 --> 00:09:04.010
  • NOT RUN FROM HIM,
  • 00:09:04.010 --> 00:09:04.290
  • BUT STAND IN FRONT OF HIM
  • 00:09:04.290 --> 00:09:05.270
  • AND TELL HIM THE TRUTH.
  • 00:09:05.270 --> 00:09:06.250
  • GORDON MOTE: YES.
  • 00:09:06.250 --> 00:09:07.190
  • MATT HAGEE: AND ONE OF
  • 00:09:07.190 --> 00:09:08.170
  • THE TRUTHS THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT
  • 00:09:08.170 --> 00:09:09.130
  • OF THE SONG THAT YOU SANG
  • 00:09:09.130 --> 00:09:10.120
  • IS THAT ONLY JESUS CAN SOLVE
  • 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.190
  • THE SITUATIONS WE FACE TODAY.
  • 00:09:12.190 --> 00:09:14.130
  • SPEAKING OF SITUATIONS,
  • 00:09:14.130 --> 00:09:15.230
  • YOU'VE FACED PLENTY OF THEM
  • 00:09:15.230 --> 00:09:17.050
  • IN YOUR LIFE AND HAVE REALLY
  • 00:09:17.050 --> 00:09:19.220
  • USED MUSIC TO OPEN DOORS
  • 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:21.100
  • TO HELP OVERCOME THAT,
  • 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:22.090
  • AND BRING A SENSE OF HEALING
  • 00:09:22.090 --> 00:09:24.060
  • TO OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:24.060 --> 00:09:25.080
  • HOW HAVE YOU SEEN MUSIC
  • 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.030
  • COMMUNICATE BEYOND WHAT ANY
  • 00:09:27.030 --> 00:09:28.210
  • OTHER LANGUAGE CAN?
  • 00:09:28.210 --> 00:09:29.250
  • GORDON MOTE: WELL,
  • 00:09:29.250 --> 00:09:30.190
  • YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE -- IT'S
  • 00:09:30.190 --> 00:09:32.090
  • AMAZING THE RAW EMOTION THAT
  • 00:09:32.090 --> 00:09:34.070
  • MUSIC CAN PULL OUT OF A PERSON.
  • 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:36.250
  • I'VE SEEN MUSIC BRING PEOPLE
  • 00:09:37.030 --> 00:09:40.030
  • TO CHRIST WHERE MAYBE A SERMON
  • 00:09:40.030 --> 00:09:42.070
  • COULDN'T.
  • 00:09:42.070 --> 00:09:43.130
  • AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE SERMON
  • 00:09:43.130 --> 00:09:44.120
  • WASN'T GREAT.
  • 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:45.060
  • IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T SO
  • 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:47.240
  • WILLING SOMETIMES TO LET
  • 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:49.040
  • THAT SERMON SINK IN.
  • 00:09:49.040 --> 00:09:50.110
  • BUT A SONG,
  • 00:09:50.110 --> 00:09:52.030
  • THE POWER OF A SONG IS AMAZING.
  • 00:09:52.030 --> 00:09:53.290
  • AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT;
  • 00:09:53.290 --> 00:09:54.250
  • WHEN YOU'RE A WRITER -- AND I
  • 00:09:54.250 --> 00:09:56.230
  • DON'T JUST SING MY OWN SONGS.
  • 00:09:56.230 --> 00:09:57.220
  • I SING OTHER PEOPLE'S SONGS
  • 00:09:57.220 --> 00:09:58.210
  • TOO.
  • 00:09:58.210 --> 00:09:59.100
  • BUT WHEN YOU REALIZE JUST HOW
  • 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:01.110
  • IMPORTANT MUSIC IS IN OUR
  • 00:10:01.110 --> 00:10:03.170
  • CULTURE AND IN THE CULTURE
  • 00:10:03.170 --> 00:10:04.280
  • OF SO MANY PEOPLE ALL AROUND
  • 00:10:04.280 --> 00:10:06.120
  • THE WORLD,
  • 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.180
  • IT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY
  • 00:10:08.180 --> 00:10:11.020
  • TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THEOLOGY
  • 00:10:11.020 --> 00:10:13.070
  • YOU'RE PROCLAIMING
  • 00:10:13.070 --> 00:10:14.080
  • FROM THE STAGE IS RIGHT ON.
  • 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:17.100
  • AND I HAVE SEEN MUSIC BRING
  • 00:10:17.230 --> 00:10:20.230
  • PEOPLE TOGETHER IN WAYS
  • 00:10:20.230 --> 00:10:22.110
  • THAT I NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE.
  • 00:10:22.110 --> 00:10:25.050
  • AND I AM GRATEFUL,
  • 00:10:25.050 --> 00:10:26.110
  • NOT JUST FOR THE GIFT OF MUSIC.
  • 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:28.040
  • BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT GOD
  • 00:10:28.040 --> 00:10:29.180
  • ALLOWS US TO BE SPOKEN TO
  • 00:10:29.230 --> 00:10:32.230
  • BY MUSIC.
  • 00:10:32.230 --> 00:10:33.200
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AMEN.
  • 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:34.140
  • NOW YOU PLAYED WITH
  • 00:10:34.140 --> 00:10:35.160
  • ALLEN JACKSON ON THE 9/11 SONG;
  • 00:10:35.160 --> 00:10:37.120
  • IS THAT CORRECT?
  • 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.080
  • GORDON MOTE: YEAH.
  • 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:39.070
  • THAT WAS THE FIRST NUMBER ONE
  • 00:10:39.070 --> 00:10:40.050
  • SONG I WAS EVER ON.
  • 00:10:40.050 --> 00:10:41.030
  • AND I REMEMBER WHEN 9/11
  • 00:10:41.030 --> 00:10:42.110
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:10:42.110 --> 00:10:42.290
  • I WAS ON MY WAY TO THE STUDIO
  • 00:10:42.290 --> 00:10:44.240
  • TO RECORD WITH SOMEBODY.
  • 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:45.240
  • I DON'T REMEMBER WHO.
  • 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.100
  • BUT I HAD JUST TOLD KIMBERLY,
  • 00:10:47.100 --> 00:10:48.120
  • I JUST FEEL LIKE I WANT TO MAKE
  • 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.290
  • A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:10:49.290 --> 00:10:51.120
  • YOU KNOW I WAS SO SAD THAT DAY,
  • 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:52.290
  • JUST AS WE ALL WERE,
  • 00:10:52.290 --> 00:10:54.070
  • JUST FEELING LIKE,
  • 00:10:54.070 --> 00:10:55.120
  • MAN, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.
  • 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:56.280
  • AND THEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS
  • 00:10:56.280 --> 00:10:58.080
  • LATER,
  • 00:10:58.080 --> 00:10:58.270
  • I'M PLAYING ON "WHERE WERE YOU
  • 00:10:58.270 --> 00:11:00.040
  • WHEN THE WORLD STOPPED
  • 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:00.250
  • TURNING."
  • 00:11:00.250 --> 00:11:01.120
  • AND THAT SONG HEALED A LOT,
  • 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.020
  • A LOT OF BROKEN HEARTS.
  • 00:11:03.020 --> 00:11:04.160
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL AND YOU
  • 00:11:04.160 --> 00:11:05.080
  • MENTION "HEALING BROKEN HEARTS."
  • 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:06.090
  • YOU KNOW THAT SONG WAS
  • 00:11:06.090 --> 00:11:08.080
  • CERTAINLY, I BELIEVE,
  • 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.170
  • USED FOR DIVINE PURPOSES.
  • 00:11:09.170 --> 00:11:11.060
  • GORDON MOTE: NO QUESTION.
  • 00:11:11.060 --> 00:11:12.030
  • MATT HAGEE: BECAUSE WHAT IT
  • 00:11:12.030 --> 00:11:12.280
  • COMMUNICATED WAS WHAT SO MANY
  • 00:11:12.280 --> 00:11:14.020
  • PEOPLE FELT AND SO MANY PEOPLE
  • 00:11:14.020 --> 00:11:15.170
  • WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY
  • 00:11:15.170 --> 00:11:16.220
  • TO EACH OTHER.
  • 00:11:16.220 --> 00:11:18.020
  • BUT SET TO A MELODY,
  • 00:11:18.020 --> 00:11:19.050
  • AND IN VERSE AND PROS,
  • 00:11:19.050 --> 00:11:20.260
  • REALLY DID A LOT OF HEALING
  • 00:11:20.260 --> 00:11:22.280
  • THAT OTHER THINGS COULDN'T DO.
  • 00:11:22.280 --> 00:11:24.080
  • AND SO YOU SEE THE HAND OF GOD
  • 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.150
  • EVEN IN THOSE,
  • 00:11:25.150 --> 00:11:27.060
  • WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY,
  • 00:11:27.060 --> 00:11:28.290
  • CHRISTIAN VERSUS SECULAR
  • 00:11:28.290 --> 00:11:30.050
  • MOMENTS.
  • 00:11:30.050 --> 00:11:30.260
  • GORDON MOTE: YES.
  • 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:31.160
  • MATT HAGEE: AND YOU'VE WALKED
  • 00:11:31.160 --> 00:11:32.090
  • A LOT IN BOTH CIRCLES.
  • 00:11:32.090 --> 00:11:32.290
  • YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH A LOT
  • 00:11:32.290 --> 00:11:34.120
  • OF CONTEMPORARY AND SECULAR
  • 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.010
  • ARTISTS, COUNTRY ARTISTS,
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:37.140
  • AND YOU STILL CHOOSE TO COME
  • 00:11:37.140 --> 00:11:39.150
  • BACK AND DO GOSPEL MUSIC.
  • 00:11:39.150 --> 00:11:41.100
  • AND RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:42.030
  • A PROJECT ON HYMNS
  • 00:11:42.030 --> 00:11:43.060
  • AND INSPIRATIONAL MUSIC.
  • 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:44.190
  • WHY HAS THAT ALWAYS BEEN
  • 00:11:44.190 --> 00:11:45.170
  • YOUR PREFERENCE?
  • 00:11:45.170 --> 00:11:46.160
  • GORDON MOTE: WELL YOU KNOW
  • 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:47.130
  • WHAT?
  • 00:11:47.130 --> 00:11:48.050
  • I LOVE ALL KINDS OF MUSIC.
  • 00:11:48.050 --> 00:11:49.060
  • PEOPLE ASK ME, MATT, A LOT.
  • 00:11:49.060 --> 00:11:50.120
  • THEY WANT TO YOU KNOW --
  • 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.220
  • MATT HAGEE: THEY WANT TO BOX YOU
  • 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:53.130
  • IN.
  • 00:11:53.130 --> 00:11:54.050
  • GORDON MOTE: YEAH, THEY DO, MAN.
  • 00:11:54.050 --> 00:11:54.260
  • I'LL TELL YA,
  • 00:11:54.260 --> 00:11:55.200
  • STILL TO THIS DAY.
  • 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.000
  • BUT AS LONG AS THE MUSIC
  • 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:57.270
  • GLORIFIES GOD,
  • 00:11:57.270 --> 00:11:59.020
  • YOU KNOW GLORIFIES JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:11:59.020 --> 00:12:00.250
  • I'M ALL IN, MAN.
  • 00:12:00.250 --> 00:12:01.270
  • I LOVE CONTEMPORARY.
  • 00:12:01.270 --> 00:12:02.280
  • I LOVE TRADITIONAL.
  • 00:12:02.280 --> 00:12:04.050
  • BUT THE HYMNS HAVE ALWAYS HAD A
  • 00:12:04.050 --> 00:12:05.020
  • REAL SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART.
  • 00:12:05.020 --> 00:12:06.110
  • AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED.
  • 00:12:06.110 --> 00:12:07.080
  • YOU KNOW WHEN WE LIKE GO IN
  • 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:08.170
  • WITH SAY,
  • 00:12:08.170 --> 00:12:09.090
  • RASCAL FLATS OR JOSH TURNER
  • 00:12:09.090 --> 00:12:10.230
  • OR MARTINA MCBRIDE,
  • 00:12:10.230 --> 00:12:12.070
  • ANY OF THEM, SO MANY OF US
  • 00:12:12.070 --> 00:12:14.000
  • CAME FROM CHURCH BACKGROUNDS,
  • 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:15.120
  • AND SO WE SING.
  • 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:16.110
  • MATT HAGEE: THAT'S WHERE WE
  • 00:12:16.110 --> 00:12:17.010
  • LEARNED TO SING.
  • 00:12:17.010 --> 00:12:17.210
  • GORDON MOTE: WE SIT AROUND
  • 00:12:17.210 --> 00:12:18.170
  • AND SING OLD SONGS YOU KNOW
  • 00:12:18.170 --> 00:12:19.190
  • JUST REMEMBERING.
  • 00:12:19.190 --> 00:12:20.210
  • BUT I WANTED TO DO THIS RECORD.
  • 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:22.120
  • SO MANY OF THESE SONGS THAT ARE
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.280
  • ON THIS ALBUM REALLY HELPED ME
  • 00:12:23.280 --> 00:12:26.280
  • TO COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST.
  • 00:12:26.280 --> 00:12:28.040
  • I REMEMBER THEM FROM WHEN I WAS
  • 00:12:28.040 --> 00:12:29.160
  • A LITTLE KID IN CHURCH SINGING
  • 00:12:29.160 --> 00:12:31.050
  • SO MANY OF THEM.
  • 00:12:31.050 --> 00:12:32.000
  • AND SO WE HAVE NINE TRADITIONAL
  • 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:33.110
  • HYMNS ON THIS RECORD.
  • 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:34.090
  • WE HAVE THREE SONGS THAT ARE
  • 00:12:34.090 --> 00:12:36.010
  • MORE OF A CONTEMPORARY NATURE,
  • 00:12:36.010 --> 00:12:37.150
  • SONGS THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE
  • 00:12:37.150 --> 00:12:38.170
  • HYMNS ONE DAY,
  • 00:12:38.170 --> 00:12:40.100
  • AND THEN THIS SONG THAT I JUST
  • 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:41.130
  • SANG "ONLY JESUS CAN HEAL THIS
  • 00:12:41.130 --> 00:12:42.220
  • HURTING WORLD."
  • 00:12:42.220 --> 00:12:43.270
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL AND THE
  • 00:12:43.270 --> 00:12:44.200
  • MESSAGES ARE CERTAINLY
  • 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:45.160
  • CONSISTENT.
  • 00:12:45.160 --> 00:12:46.080
  • AND IF I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
  • 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:47.020
  • GORDON MOTE,
  • 00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:47.210
  • IT'S THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING
  • 00:12:47.210 --> 00:12:48.160
  • TO FIND SOMETHING ON THAT ALBUM
  • 00:12:48.160 --> 00:12:50.000
  • THAT THEY THINK,
  • 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.100
  • WHEN THEY READ THE TITLE,
  • 00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:52.060
  • IT'S GOING TO SOUND ONE WAY.
  • 00:12:52.060 --> 00:12:53.080
  • BUT WHEN THEY HEAR IT,
  • 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:54.040
  • IT'S GOING TO BE REAL DIFFERENT.
  • 00:12:54.040 --> 00:12:55.230
  • GORDON MOTE: YOU'RE SO RIGHT.
  • 00:12:55.230 --> 00:12:56.190
  • YOU'RE SO RIGHT.
  • 00:12:56.190 --> 00:12:57.170
  • BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
  • 00:12:57.170 --> 00:12:58.250
  • WE HELD TRUE TO THE INCREDIBLE
  • 00:12:59.070 --> 00:13:02.090
  • TRUTHS THAT THOSE SONGS
  • 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:03.170
  • PROCLAIM AND THOSE WONDERFUL
  • 00:13:03.170 --> 00:13:05.190
  • TIMELESS MELODIES.
  • 00:13:05.190 --> 00:13:06.220
  • BUT YEAH, THERE'S
  • 00:13:06.220 --> 00:13:07.150
  • A GORDON SPIN ON THOSE SONGS.
  • 00:13:07.150 --> 00:13:09.170
  • MATT HAGEE: THERE'S SOMETHING
  • 00:13:09.170 --> 00:13:10.100
  • IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO BE
  • 00:13:10.100 --> 00:13:11.020
  • A LITTLE DIFFERENT,
  • 00:13:11.020 --> 00:13:12.030
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:13:12.030 --> 00:13:13.060
  • YOU KNOW WHENEVER PEOPLE SEE
  • 00:13:13.060 --> 00:13:15.060
  • AN INDIVIDUAL WITH THIS KIND
  • 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:16.090
  • OF TALENT THAT'S USED IN SO MANY
  • 00:13:16.090 --> 00:13:17.230
  • DIFFERENT FIELDS,
  • 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:19.090
  • IMMEDIATELY THEY WANT TO SAY,
  • 00:13:19.090 --> 00:13:20.190
  • WELL IT MUST BE HARD TO KEEP
  • 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:21.280
  • YOUR CONVICTIONS,
  • 00:13:21.280 --> 00:13:22.240
  • IT MUST BE HARD TO KEEP
  • 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:23.200
  • YOUR COMMITMENTS.
  • 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:25.030
  • IS IT?
  • 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:25.290
  • GORDON MOTE: I WOULD SAY THAT
  • 00:13:25.290 --> 00:13:28.100
  • YOU COULD SAY THAT FOR ANYBODY,
  • 00:13:28.100 --> 00:13:29.180
  • NO MATTER WHAT WE DO IN LIFE.
  • 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:31.090
  • YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU WORK
  • 00:13:31.090 --> 00:13:32.230
  • IN A FACTORY OR WHETHER YOU --
  • 00:13:32.230 --> 00:13:34.210
  • WHATEVER IT IS,
  • 00:13:34.210 --> 00:13:35.120
  • WE ALL HAVE A LINE OF WORK
  • 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.200
  • THAT WE'RE IN.
  • 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.260
  • BUT I AM VERY GRATEFUL,
  • 00:13:37.260 --> 00:13:39.000
  • LIKE I SAID,
  • 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:39.200
  • FOR THE GIFT OF MUSIC,
  • 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.170
  • HOW IT ENABLES US TO
  • 00:13:40.170 --> 00:13:41.140
  • COMMUNICATE.
  • 00:13:41.140 --> 00:13:43.190
  • BEING SO MUCH IN THE SECULAR
  • 00:13:43.190 --> 00:13:45.140
  • WORLD AS WELL WITH MY MUSIC,
  • 00:13:45.160 --> 00:13:48.160
  • I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WITNESS TO
  • 00:13:48.160 --> 00:13:50.060
  • PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE EVER
  • 00:13:50.270 --> 00:13:53.270
  • HEARD THE GOSPEL FROM SOMEONE
  • 00:13:53.270 --> 00:13:55.170
  • THEY TRUST.
  • 00:13:55.170 --> 00:13:56.160
  • MATT HAGEE: CORRECT.
  • 00:13:56.160 --> 00:13:57.120
  • GORDON MOTE: YOU KNOW I GOT A
  • 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:58.140
  • CHANCE TO WITNESS TO KID ROCK
  • 00:13:58.140 --> 00:13:59.250
  • ONE TIME.
  • 00:13:59.250 --> 00:14:01.030
  • HE KNOWS WHAT I DO.
  • 00:14:01.030 --> 00:14:02.180
  • I MADE THAT CONNECTION THROUGH
  • 00:14:02.180 --> 00:14:03.270
  • BOB SEGER,
  • 00:14:03.270 --> 00:14:04.220
  • BECAUSE I HAD PLAYED ON
  • 00:14:04.220 --> 00:14:05.140
  • SOMETHING FOR HIM.
  • 00:14:05.140 --> 00:14:06.060
  • AND HE'S LIKE, DUDE,
  • 00:14:06.060 --> 00:14:06.220
  • YOU'VE GOT TO HEAR THIS GUY
  • 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:07.190
  • SING.
  • 00:14:07.190 --> 00:14:08.110
  • YOU'VE GOT TO HEAR HIS RECORD.
  • 00:14:08.110 --> 00:14:09.280
  • AND KID ROCK JUST ASKED ME
  • 00:14:09.280 --> 00:14:11.230
  • STRAIGHT OUT,
  • 00:14:11.230 --> 00:14:12.070
  • WHY DO YOU DO WHAT YOU DO?
  • 00:14:12.070 --> 00:14:13.210
  • I MEAN YOU MAKE A LIVING
  • 00:14:13.210 --> 00:14:15.000
  • IN NASHVILLE; WHY?
  • 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:16.040
  • AND SO I HAD TO TELL HIM,
  • 00:14:16.040 --> 00:14:16.280
  • IT'S A CALLING.
  • 00:14:16.280 --> 00:14:17.260
  • AND SO THAT GOT HIM REALLY
  • 00:14:17.260 --> 00:14:18.280
  • INTERESTED.
  • 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:19.140
  • AND SO FOR ABOUT AN HOUR,
  • 00:14:19.140 --> 00:14:21.000
  • I GOT TO SHARE MY FAITH
  • 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:21.280
  • WITH HIM.
  • 00:14:21.280 --> 00:14:22.290
  • AND I -- YOU KNOW IT PLANTED
  • 00:14:22.290 --> 00:14:24.110
  • A SEED.
  • 00:14:24.110 --> 00:14:25.060
  • WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO
  • 00:14:25.060 --> 00:14:26.000
  • HAPPEN?
  • 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:26.170
  • BUT WE CAN ALL DO THAT.
  • 00:14:26.170 --> 00:14:28.140
  • WE DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE
  • 00:14:28.140 --> 00:14:29.100
  • IN MUSIC.
  • 00:14:29.100 --> 00:14:29.260
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
  • 00:14:29.260 --> 00:14:30.150
  • IN MINISTRY.
  • 00:14:30.150 --> 00:14:31.100
  • WHEN YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:14:31.100 --> 00:14:32.210
  • YOU ARE IN MINISTRY,
  • 00:14:32.210 --> 00:14:33.220
  • YOU ARE A DISCIPLE.
  • 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:35.020
  • AND WE ARE CALLED TO SPREAD
  • 00:14:35.020 --> 00:14:36.090
  • THE GOSPEL TO ALL THE WORLD.
  • 00:14:36.090 --> 00:14:39.070
  • AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:40.150
  • SUPPOSED TO DO.
  • 00:14:40.150 --> 00:14:41.060
  • SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TRIED
  • 00:14:41.060 --> 00:14:42.050
  • TO DO.
  • 00:14:42.050 --> 00:14:42.220
  • AND I JUST ENCOURAGE OTHERS.
  • 00:14:42.220 --> 00:14:44.080
  • RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:45.010
  • MORE THAN ANY TIME
  • 00:14:45.010 --> 00:14:45.250
  • IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY,
  • 00:14:45.250 --> 00:14:46.210
  • IN OUR WORLD'S HISTORY,
  • 00:14:46.210 --> 00:14:47.160
  • WE CANNOT BE ASHAMED
  • 00:14:47.160 --> 00:14:48.150
  • OF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:14:48.150 --> 00:14:49.050
  • WE HAVE GOT TO BE ABOUT
  • 00:14:49.050 --> 00:14:50.220
  • THE FATHER'S BUSINESS
  • 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:51.150
  • AND PROCLAIM THAT JESUS IS LORD,
  • 00:14:51.150 --> 00:14:54.040
  • AND NOT BE ASHAMED.
  • 00:14:54.040 --> 00:14:55.190
  • GET AFTER IT.
  • 00:14:55.190 --> 00:14:56.230
  • MATT HAGEE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:57.110
  • GORDON, YOU ARE ONE OF
  • 00:14:57.110 --> 00:14:58.070
  • MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
  • 00:14:58.070 --> 00:14:58.290
  • YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CONTAGIOUS.
  • 00:14:58.290 --> 00:15:00.260
  • GORDON MOTE: THANK YOU,
  • 00:15:00.260 --> 00:15:01.170
  • MY BROTHER.
  • 00:15:01.170 --> 00:15:02.030
  • MATT HAGEE: COMING UP --
  • 00:15:02.030 --> 00:15:02.220
  • GORDON MOTE: YOU'RE
  • 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:03.120
  • A SWEETHEART, TOO.
  • 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:04.040
  • MATT HAGEE: -- THEY'VE LEARNED
  • 00:15:04.040 --> 00:15:04.290
  • HOW TO LIVE COURAGEOUSLY IN
  • 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:06.050
  • A WORLD THAT'S BEEN BLATANTLY
  • 00:15:06.050 --> 00:15:07.050
  • HOSTILE TOWARDS THEIR FAITH.
  • 00:15:07.050 --> 00:15:08.230
  • YOU'RE GOING TO MEET
  • 00:15:08.230 --> 00:15:09.110
  • THE BENHAM BROTHERS
  • 00:15:09.110 --> 00:15:10.100
  • RIGHT AFTER THIS.
  • 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:11.200
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.140
  • MUSIC
  • 00:15:13.290 --> 00:15:16.290
  • THIS CHRISTMAS,
  • 00:15:16.290 --> 00:15:17.250
  • GIVE YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS
  • 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:19.040
  • TIMELESS GIFTS,
  • 00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:20.060
  • GIFTS THAT INSPIRE, ENCOURAGE
  • 00:15:20.060 --> 00:15:22.030
  • AND UPLIFT.
  • 00:15:22.030 --> 00:15:23.150
  • MUSIC
  • 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:25.260
  • WHETHER IT'S MUSIC, BOOKS
  • 00:15:25.260 --> 00:15:27.010
  • OR APPAREL,
  • 00:15:27.010 --> 00:15:28.140
  • THERE IS SOMETHING
  • 00:15:28.140 --> 00:15:29.030
  • FOR EVERYONE
  • 00:15:29.030 --> 00:15:30.180
  • MUSIC
  • 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.000
  • AND FOR EVERY AGE.
  • 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:36.140
  • MUSIC
  • 00:15:36.140 --> 00:15:38.190
  • VISIT JHM.ORG
  • 00:15:38.190 --> 00:15:40.070
  • OR CALL 1-800-854-9899
  • 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.120
  • FOR ALL YOUR CHRISTMAS SHOPPING
  • 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:44.190
  • NEEDS.
  • 00:15:44.190 --> 00:15:45.200
  • GOD KNOWS THE PLANS HE HAS
  • 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.050
  • FOR YOU,
  • 00:15:48.050 --> 00:15:49.000
  • PLANS TO GIVE YOU HOPE
  • 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:50.090
  • AND A FUTURE.
  • 00:15:50.090 --> 00:15:51.100
  • SHARE THIS EXCITING MESSAGE
  • 00:15:51.100 --> 00:15:53.000
  • WITH THE SPECIAL PEOPLE
  • 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:53.290
  • IN YOUR LIFE WITH
  • 00:15:53.290 --> 00:15:55.050
  • A JEREMIAH 29:11 BRACELET.
  • 00:15:55.050 --> 00:15:57.140
  • THIS ADJUSTABLE BANGLE BRACELET
  • 00:15:57.140 --> 00:15:59.080
  • HAS THREE CHARMS.
  • 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.220
  • LET THIS BEAUTIFUL BRACELET
  • 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:02.120
  • ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:03.120
  • AND SERVE AS A REMINDER
  • 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.190
  • OF GOD'S PURPOSE
  • 00:16:04.190 --> 00:16:05.160
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:06.150
  • ORDER YOUR JEREMIAH 29:11
  • 00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:08.140
  • BRACELET TODAY,
  • 00:16:08.140 --> 00:16:09.230
  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
  • 00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:13.040
  • OR VISIT US ONLINE AT JHM.ORG.
  • 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:16.130
  • THIS HOLIDAY SEASON,
  • 00:16:16.130 --> 00:16:18.020
  • LET'S UNIFY
  • 00:16:18.020 --> 00:16:18.270
  • THROUGH OUR GIVING
  • 00:16:18.270 --> 00:16:19.290
  • TO BE A FAMILY TO THOSE
  • 00:16:19.290 --> 00:16:21.070
  • WITHOUT ONE.
  • 00:16:21.070 --> 00:16:22.170
  • FOR A GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT
  • 00:16:22.170 --> 00:16:23.190
  • TO JOHN HAGEE MINISTRIES,
  • 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:25.040
  • WE'D LIKE TO SEND YOU A FREE
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:26.190
  • "HAGEE'S CHRISTMAS" ALBUM.
  • 00:16:26.190 --> 00:16:28.070
  • AND FOR A TAX-DEDUCTIBLE GIFT
  • 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:29.190
  • OF $150 OR MORE,
  • 00:16:29.190 --> 00:16:31.220
  • WE'LL SEND YOU
  • 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:32.110
  • THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM
  • 00:16:32.110 --> 00:16:33.120
  • ALONG WITH A "PROPHETIC BIBLE"
  • 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:34.180
  • AND "DAILY TRUTH DEVOTIONAL."
  • 00:16:34.180 --> 00:16:36.020
  • ALL PROCEEDS WILL GO TO
  • 00:16:36.020 --> 00:16:37.010
  • THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE.
  • 00:16:37.010 --> 00:16:38.210
  • TO GIVE YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE
  • 00:16:38.210 --> 00:16:39.290
  • GIFT,
  • 00:16:39.290 --> 00:16:40.210
  • CALL 1-800-854-9899
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  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/UNITY.
  • 00:16:43.130 --> 00:16:46.120
  • MUSIC
  • 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.100
  • WANT A BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOOK
  • 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:50.080
  • AT "THE DIFFERENCE"?
  • 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.110
  • LEARN INTERESTING FACTS
  • 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:52.140
  • ABOUT OUR GUESTS,
  • 00:16:52.140 --> 00:16:53.250
  • COMMENT ON OUR SEGMENTS,
  • 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:55.160
  • AND FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE SHOW
  • 00:16:55.160 --> 00:16:57.100
  • BY FOLLOWING
  • 00:16:57.100 --> 00:16:57.220
  • MATT AND KENDAL HAGEE
  • 00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:59.140
  • ON FACEBOOK,
  • 00:16:59.140 --> 00:17:00.240
  • MUSIC
  • 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.000
  • INSTAGRAM,
  • 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.080
  • MUSIC
  • 00:17:05.070 --> 00:17:08.070
  • AND TWITTER.
  • 00:17:08.070 --> 00:17:09.060
  • MUSIC
  • 00:17:12.260 --> 00:17:15.260
  • KENDAL HAGEE: OUR NEXT GUESTS
  • 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.160
  • ARE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN,
  • 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:24.290
  • AUTHORS AND SPEAKERS,
  • 00:17:24.290 --> 00:17:26.170
  • WHO FOUND THEMSELVES
  • 00:17:26.170 --> 00:17:27.110
  • ON THE FRONT LINES
  • 00:17:27.110 --> 00:17:28.140
  • OF THE CULTURE WARS,
  • 00:17:28.140 --> 00:17:29.230
  • AND SERVE AS EXAMPLES OF COURAGE
  • 00:17:29.230 --> 00:17:31.270
  • TO ALL OF US.
  • 00:17:31.270 --> 00:17:32.290
  • WE HAVE ASKED SEVERAL PEOPLE
  • 00:17:32.290 --> 00:17:34.040
  • THIS QUESTION;
  • 00:17:34.040 --> 00:17:35.040
  • WHAT DOES COURAGE MEAN TO YOU?
  • 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:36.240
  • TAKE A LOOK.
  • 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:37.240
  • MUSIC
  • 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:38.230
  • COURAGE IS BEING ABLE TO STAND
  • 00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:40.060
  • UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN
  • 00:17:40.060 --> 00:17:41.250
  • AND BEING ABLE TO BE ROLE MODELS
  • 00:17:41.250 --> 00:17:42.280
  • TO PEOPLE AROUND YOU,
  • 00:17:42.280 --> 00:17:44.140
  • BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S ALWAYS
  • 00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:45.170
  • WATCHING YOU.
  • 00:17:45.170 --> 00:17:47.010
  • COURAGE IS UH,
  • 00:17:47.010 --> 00:17:48.180
  • HAVING THE WHEREWITH ALL
  • 00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:50.200
  • TO GO THROUGH THE FIRE.
  • 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.060
  • SOME PEOPLE ARE AFRAID
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:53.000
  • OF HEIGHTS, LIKE ME,
  • 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:53.230
  • BUT I JUMPED OUT OF A PLANE.
  • 00:17:53.230 --> 00:17:54.260
  • I SKYDIVED.
  • 00:17:54.260 --> 00:17:56.040
  • SO I GUESS COURAGE IS HAVING
  • 00:17:56.040 --> 00:17:57.080
  • THE WILL TO STILL GO THROUGH
  • 00:17:57.080 --> 00:18:00.020
  • A FEAR.
  • 00:18:00.020 --> 00:18:01.060
  • COURAGE TO ME,
  • 00:18:01.060 --> 00:18:02.010
  • WELL YOU CAN'T BE COURAGEOUS
  • 00:18:02.010 --> 00:18:03.010
  • UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO BE
  • 00:18:03.010 --> 00:18:04.020
  • AFRAID OF IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:18:04.020 --> 00:18:05.140
  • SO I THINK THE MOST COURAGEOUS
  • 00:18:05.140 --> 00:18:06.120
  • PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT PUT
  • 00:18:06.120 --> 00:18:07.140
  • THEMSELVES RIGHT IN THE FACE OF
  • 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:08.210
  • FEAR AND THEY DON'T BACK DOWN.
  • 00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:11.250
  • KENDAL HAGEE: OUR NEXT GUESTS
  • 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:13.010
  • ARE SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN,
  • 00:18:13.010 --> 00:18:14.200
  • AUTHORS, AND SPEAKERS,
  • 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.130
  • WHO FOUND THEMSELVES ON THE
  • 00:18:16.130 --> 00:18:17.220
  • FRONT LINES OF THE CULTURE WARS
  • 00:18:17.220 --> 00:18:19.270
  • AND SERVE AS EXAMPLES
  • 00:18:19.270 --> 00:18:21.080
  • OF COURAGE TO ALL OF US.
  • 00:18:21.080 --> 00:18:23.070
  • PLEASE WELCOME DAVID
  • 00:18:23.070 --> 00:18:24.200
  • AND JASON BENHAM.
  • 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.140
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:27.210
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WHEW!
  • 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:29.020
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:18:29.020 --> 00:18:31.220
  • DAVID BENHAM: HOW ARE YOU, MATT?
  • 00:18:31.220 --> 00:18:32.160
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WHICH ONE ARE
  • 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:33.110
  • YOU?
  • 00:18:33.110 --> 00:18:33.270
  • I'M CONFUSED.
  • 00:18:33.270 --> 00:18:34.150
  • DAVID BENHAM: I'M DAVID,
  • 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:35.060
  • THE SMART BROTHER.
  • 00:18:35.060 --> 00:18:35.250
  • KENDAL HAGEE: JASON?
  • 00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:36.230
  • JASON BENHAM: YES, JASON.
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:37.090
  • PASTOR MATT: BY PROCESS OF
  • 00:18:37.090 --> 00:18:38.060
  • ELIMINATION,
  • 00:18:38.060 --> 00:18:38.280
  • YOU'RE BENHAM BROTHERS.
  • 00:18:38.280 --> 00:18:39.250
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I KNOW; WELCOME.
  • 00:18:39.250 --> 00:18:40.170
  • JASON BENHAM: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:40.170 --> 00:18:41.190
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WE'RE GLAD TO
  • 00:18:41.190 --> 00:18:42.090
  • HAVE Y'ALL.
  • 00:18:42.090 --> 00:18:43.020
  • MATT HAGEE: GREAT TO HAVE YOU
  • 00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:43.250
  • HERE WITH US TODAY.
  • 00:18:43.250 --> 00:18:44.160
  • AND THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE,
  • 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.090
  • AND WHAT YOU DO,
  • 00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:45.290
  • AND WHAT YOU'VE STOOD UP FOR.
  • 00:18:45.290 --> 00:18:47.060
  • YOU KNOW YOU REALLY HAVE BEEN
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:51.100
  • INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE THRUST
  • 00:18:51.100 --> 00:18:52.160
  • INTO THIS MOMENT WHERE YOU
  • 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.160
  • LIVED BY YOUR PRINCIPLES.
  • 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:55.210
  • AND YOUR PRINCIPLES FOUND YOU
  • 00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:56.250
  • IN OPPOSITION TO POPULARITY.
  • 00:18:57.010 --> 00:19:00.030
  • HOW WAS THAT FOR YOU AS
  • 00:19:00.030 --> 00:19:01.190
  • INDIVIDUALS AND AS FAMILY MEN?
  • 00:19:01.190 --> 00:19:03.150
  • WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
  • 00:19:03.150 --> 00:19:04.040
  • DAVID BENHAM: WELL, AS MEN
  • 00:19:04.040 --> 00:19:05.080
  • OF GOD, WE'RE CALLED TO LIVE
  • 00:19:05.080 --> 00:19:06.230
  • BY PRINCIPLE.
  • 00:19:06.230 --> 00:19:07.150
  • WE'RE CALLED TO LIVE
  • 00:19:07.150 --> 00:19:08.090
  • BY PROMISE,
  • 00:19:08.090 --> 00:19:08.280
  • FOCUSING ON THE PERSON OF GOD,
  • 00:19:08.280 --> 00:19:10.240
  • WALKING IN THE POWER
  • 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:11.170
  • OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:19:11.170 --> 00:19:13.010
  • DAVID BENHAM: MAN,
  • 00:19:13.010 --> 00:19:13.260
  • THAT'S A LOT OF PEACE.
  • 00:19:13.260 --> 00:19:14.200
  • JASON BENHAM: THAT WAS A LOT
  • 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:15.110
  • OF PEACE.
  • 00:19:15.110 --> 00:19:16.020
  • I'M SHOWING SOME OF MY
  • 00:19:16.020 --> 00:19:17.010
  • BAPTIST ROOTS.
  • 00:19:17.010 --> 00:19:17.200
  • KENDAL HAGEE: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.240
  • JASON BENHAM: DOES THIS HAVE
  • 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.230
  • A POEM?
  • 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:20.150
  • IS THERE GOING TO BE A POEM?
  • 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:21.150
  • JASON BENHAM: IF HE INTERRUPTS
  • 00:19:21.150 --> 00:19:22.090
  • ME AGAIN,
  • 00:19:22.090 --> 00:19:23.230
  • YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE SOMETHING
  • 00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:24.170
  • GO DOWN.
  • 00:19:24.170 --> 00:19:25.160
  • JASON BENHAM: HE GREW UP
  • 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:26.080
  • BAPTIST.
  • 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:27.110
  • DAVID BENHAM: OKAY. DON'T MAKE
  • 00:19:27.110 --> 00:19:28.100
  • FUN OF THE FACT THAT I DON'T
  • 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:29.080
  • WEAR SOCKS; I'M SORRY.
  • 00:19:29.080 --> 00:19:30.010
  • WE WERE ON FOX AND FRIENDS
  • 00:19:30.010 --> 00:19:30.270
  • AND I WASN'T WEARING SOCKS,
  • 00:19:30.270 --> 00:19:31.230
  • AND THEY MADE FUN OF ME.
  • 00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:33.020
  • JASON BENHAM: WE'RE NOT MAN
  • 00:19:33.020 --> 00:19:33.290
  • ENOUGH TO ROCK THE OSTRICH SKIN
  • 00:19:33.290 --> 00:19:34.250
  • BOOTS.
  • 00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:35.160
  • THAT'S A MAN.
  • 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.000
  • DAVID BENHAM: THAT'S INTENSE.
  • 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:38.040
  • KENDAL HAGEE: REAL MEN WEAR
  • 00:19:38.040 --> 00:19:38.270
  • BOOTS.
  • 00:19:38.270 --> 00:19:39.150
  • DAVID BENHAM: OKAY.
  • 00:19:39.150 --> 00:19:40.030
  • NOW LEAVE ME ALONE FOR A MINUTE
  • 00:19:40.030 --> 00:19:41.000
  • AND LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT.
  • 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.040
  • JASON BENHAM: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:43.050
  • MATT HAGEE: YOUR PRINCIPLES.
  • 00:19:43.050 --> 00:19:44.010
  • DAVID BENHAM: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:19:44.010 --> 00:19:44.220
  • YOU KNOW WE GRADUATED
  • 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:45.170
  • FROM LIBERTY UNIVERSITY.
  • 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:47.010
  • I WAS DRAFTED BY THE RED SOX;
  • 00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:48.170
  • HE WAS DRAFT BY THE ORIOLES.
  • 00:19:48.170 --> 00:19:49.280
  • WE WENT ONTO PLAY PROFESSIONAL
  • 00:19:49.280 --> 00:19:51.020
  • BASEBALL.
  • 00:19:51.020 --> 00:19:52.260
  • BUT WE WERE READING THE BIBLE
  • 00:19:52.260 --> 00:19:53.280
  • AT THAT TIME.
  • 00:19:53.280 --> 00:19:54.180
  • WE WERE REALLY STUDYING
  • 00:19:54.180 --> 00:19:55.200
  • AND DIVING DEEP INTO OUR
  • 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.110
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS
  • 00:19:57.110 --> 00:19:58.140
  • AND MAKING JESUS OUR OWN.
  • 00:19:58.140 --> 00:19:59.220
  • YOU KNOW THE GREATEST
  • 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:00.270
  • COMMANDMENT IS TO LOVE
  • 00:20:00.270 --> 00:20:01.210
  • THE LORD, YOUR GOD,
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:03.220
  • NOT YOUR DAD'S GOD,
  • 00:20:03.220 --> 00:20:05.120
  • NOT SOMEBODY ELSE'S GOD,
  • 00:20:05.120 --> 00:20:06.170
  • BUT "YOUR" GOD.
  • 00:20:06.170 --> 00:20:07.170
  • AND WHEN YOU BEGIN TO STOKE
  • 00:20:07.170 --> 00:20:09.170
  • THOSE FIRES,
  • 00:20:09.170 --> 00:20:10.150
  • STOKE THOSE EMBERS
  • 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:12.130
  • IN THE FURNACE OF YOUR SOUL,
  • 00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:14.070
  • WHEN THE CULTURAL WINDS COME
  • 00:20:14.070 --> 00:20:15.200
  • TO BLOW OUT YOUR LIGHT,
  • 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.230
  • IF IT'S JUST A CANDLE,
  • 00:20:16.230 --> 00:20:17.250
  • IT'LL BLOW YOUR LIGHT OUT.
  • 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:19.070
  • BUT IF IT'S A BURNING FIRE
  • 00:20:19.070 --> 00:20:20.130
  • ON THE INSIDE, WHAT HAPPENS?
  • 00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.250
  • MATT HAGEE: IT IGNITES IT.
  • 00:20:21.250 --> 00:20:22.120
  • JASON BENHAM: IT IGNITES IT.
  • 00:20:22.120 --> 00:20:23.100
  • AND WE FOUND OURSELVES --
  • 00:20:23.100 --> 00:20:24.150
  • YOU KNOW WE HAD STARTED
  • 00:20:24.150 --> 00:20:25.120
  • A REAL ESTATE COMPANY,
  • 00:20:25.120 --> 00:20:26.050
  • GROWN INTO A HUNDRED OFFICES
  • 00:20:26.050 --> 00:20:27.070
  • ACROSS 35 STATES.
  • 00:20:27.070 --> 00:20:28.130
  • AND A PRODUCTION COMPANY CAME
  • 00:20:28.130 --> 00:20:29.220
  • TO US, AND SAID, YOU GUYS,
  • 00:20:29.220 --> 00:20:32.080
  • LET'S PUT YOU ON REALITY
  • 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:33.080
  • TELEVISION.
  • 00:20:33.080 --> 00:20:34.000
  • AND WE ENDED UP --
  • 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:35.070
  • TLC MADE US AN OFFER.
  • 00:20:35.070 --> 00:20:36.120
  • WE SIGNED WITH HG.
  • 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:37.140
  • AND THEN WE ENDED UP GETTING
  • 00:20:37.140 --> 00:20:38.070
  • FIRED.
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:39.030
  • BUT THAT WIND THAT CAME THAT
  • 00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:41.030
  • BASICALLY SAID,
  • 00:20:41.030 --> 00:20:41.290
  • BACK DOWN OFF OF SOME OF THESE
  • 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:43.040
  • PRINCIPLES OF YOUR FAITH
  • 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:44.050
  • JASON AND I SAID, NO;
  • 00:20:44.050 --> 00:20:45.100
  • WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
  • 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:46.140
  • MATT HAGEE: YEAH.
  • 00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:47.030
  • AND YOU KNOW THE THING IS YOU
  • 00:20:47.030 --> 00:20:47.260
  • READ,
  • 00:20:47.260 --> 00:20:48.210
  • AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:20:48.210 --> 00:20:49.110
  • IN THE WORD,
  • 00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:50.040
  • THAT THE STEPS OF THE RIGHTEOUS
  • 00:20:50.040 --> 00:20:50.290
  • ARE ORDERED OF THE LORD.
  • 00:20:50.290 --> 00:20:53.080
  • YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN A POSITION
  • 00:20:53.080 --> 00:20:54.150
  • YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU'D BE IN.
  • 00:20:54.150 --> 00:20:55.250
  • AND THEN IN THE END
  • 00:20:55.250 --> 00:20:57.130
  • OF ALL THINGS,
  • 00:20:57.130 --> 00:20:58.110
  • YOU RECOGNIZED THAT GOD'S PLAN
  • 00:20:58.110 --> 00:20:59.170
  • WAS PERFECT IN EVERY ASPECT
  • 00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:01.120
  • OF IT.
  • 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:02.040
  • HOW DID YOU SEE THAT PLAY OUT?
  • 00:21:02.040 --> 00:21:03.140
  • JASON BENHAM: WELL A MAN PLANS
  • 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:04.200
  • HIS WAY; GOD DIRECTS HIS STEPS,
  • 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:06.110
  • WHICH IS A GOOD THING,
  • 00:21:06.110 --> 00:21:07.210
  • BECAUSE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS
  • 00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:09.080
  • DOING ALL ALONG.
  • 00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:10.020
  • AND WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY IS THAT
  • 00:21:10.020 --> 00:21:11.230
  • WE BELIEVE THAT GOD SABOTAGED
  • 00:21:11.230 --> 00:21:13.050
  • US.
  • 00:21:13.050 --> 00:21:14.090
  • HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO
  • 00:21:14.090 --> 00:21:15.220
  • THE WHOLE TIME.
  • 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:16.120
  • HE KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING
  • 00:21:16.120 --> 00:21:16.290
  • TO HAVE A REALITY SHOW.
  • 00:21:16.290 --> 00:21:18.260
  • BUT WHAT HE DID WAS THREW US
  • 00:21:18.290 --> 00:21:21.290
  • RIGHT INTO THE MIDDLE OF
  • 00:21:21.290 --> 00:21:22.280
  • SOMETHING WHERE HE SAID, BOYS,
  • 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:24.190
  • IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO STAND UP.
  • 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:26.090
  • AND YOU KNOW WE WENT THROUGH
  • 00:21:26.090 --> 00:21:27.060
  • A TIME BEFORE ALL OF THIS WHERE
  • 00:21:27.060 --> 00:21:29.110
  • WE ACTUALLY FELT SCARED.
  • 00:21:29.110 --> 00:21:30.220
  • LIKE I KNEW THAT AT SOME POINT,
  • 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:33.130
  • THAT PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY COME
  • 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:34.160
  • AT US BECAUSE OF OUR FAITH.
  • 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:35.220
  • AND YOU KNOW IT'S ONE THING
  • 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:36.290
  • TO BE A PERSON OF FAITH,
  • 00:21:36.290 --> 00:21:38.130
  • BUT IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BE
  • 00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:39.230
  • A PERSON WHO'S VOCAL
  • 00:21:39.230 --> 00:21:40.210
  • ABOUT THEIR FAITH.
  • 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:42.050
  • THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:43.060
  • DAVID BENHAM: WHAT GORDON
  • 00:21:43.060 --> 00:21:43.280
  • JUST TALKED ABOUT,
  • 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:44.140
  • I MEAN HOW POWERFUL THAT
  • 00:21:44.140 --> 00:21:45.230
  • WITNESS AND THE TESTIMONY.
  • 00:21:45.230 --> 00:21:46.290
  • JASON BENHAM: AND I WANTED
  • 00:21:46.290 --> 00:21:47.210
  • TO SCREAM CRY DURING HIS SONG,
  • 00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:49.010
  • BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO MESS UP
  • 00:21:49.010 --> 00:21:50.050
  • WHAT WAS GOING ON.
  • 00:21:50.050 --> 00:21:51.000
  • DAVID BENHAM: BUT HE'S RIGHT;
  • 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:51.210
  • WE'VE GOT TO BE VOCAL.
  • 00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:52.200
  • MATT HAGEE: AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE
  • 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:53.210
  • SITTING THERE
  • 00:21:53.210 --> 00:21:54.070
  • AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEAR.
  • 00:21:54.070 --> 00:21:55.210
  • SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN,
  • 00:21:55.210 --> 00:21:57.130
  • THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU SIT
  • 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:58.070
  • DOWN AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT
  • 00:21:58.070 --> 00:21:59.190
  • IT TAKES TO MANAGE
  • 00:21:59.190 --> 00:22:01.010
  • AND RUN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS,
  • 00:22:01.010 --> 00:22:02.070
  • AND YOU GO,
  • 00:22:02.070 --> 00:22:02.250
  • IS THIS GOOD FOR BUSINESS?
  • 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:04.190
  • AND YOU WEIGH THESE THINGS IN
  • 00:22:04.190 --> 00:22:06.060
  • THE SCALES,
  • 00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:07.040
  • AND YOU KIND OF WONDER, WELL,
  • 00:22:07.040 --> 00:22:09.080
  • IS THIS REALLY THE TIME TO
  • 00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:10.130
  • START THIS FIGHT OR DO WE DO
  • 00:22:10.130 --> 00:22:11.240
  • THIS?
  • 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:12.080
  • I MEAN YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:14.000
  • AFTER THE FACT,
  • 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:14.260
  • IT'S EASY TO SIT AROUND
  • 00:22:14.260 --> 00:22:15.150
  • ON THE COUCH AND GO,
  • 00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:16.090
  • FELLOWS, IT WAS EASY.
  • 00:22:16.090 --> 00:22:17.010
  • Y'ALL JUST GOT UP THERE
  • 00:22:17.010 --> 00:22:17.250
  • COURAGEOUSLY AND TOLD THEM
  • 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:19.170
  • WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:20.110
  • BUT I MEAN STANDING THERE
  • 00:22:20.110 --> 00:22:21.140
  • IN THE MIDST OF THAT SITUATION,
  • 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:22.240
  • YOU'RE GOING,
  • 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.050
  • JESUS, TAKE THE WHEEL.
  • 00:22:24.050 --> 00:22:25.220
  • OR YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
  • 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:26.250
  • DAVID BENHAM: THAT'S EXACTLY
  • 00:22:26.250 --> 00:22:27.180
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:28.090
  • I MEAN TIM HAWKINS, "JESUS,
  • 00:22:28.090 --> 00:22:29.040
  • TAKE THE WHEEL."
  • 00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:30.160
  • MATT HAGEE: NO, MATT HAGEE.
  • 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:31.150
  • DAVID BENHAM: YEAH.
  • 00:22:31.150 --> 00:22:32.070
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:22:32.070 --> 00:22:32.240
  • YOU'VE GOT IT.
  • 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.180
  • JASON BENHAM: YOU'RE WAY BETTER
  • 00:22:33.180 --> 00:22:34.160
  • LOOKING THAN TIM HAWKINS.
  • 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.020
  • DAVID BENHAM: SO WHAT JASON
  • 00:22:35.020 --> 00:22:35.220
  • AND I LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE
  • 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:36.270
  • SAME THING THAT GOT US HIRED;
  • 00:22:36.270 --> 00:22:38.090
  • OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH,
  • 00:22:38.090 --> 00:22:39.180
  • GOT US FIRED,
  • 00:22:39.180 --> 00:22:40.240
  • OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH.
  • 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:41.270
  • BECAUSE WHEN WE LIVE LIKE
  • 00:22:41.270 --> 00:22:43.240
  • DANIEL IN TODAY'S BABYLON,
  • 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:46.030
  • I MEAN HE WAS VERY VALUABLE
  • 00:22:46.030 --> 00:22:47.200
  • TO THE KINGDOM.
  • 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.110
  • I MEAN HE ROSE TO THE TOP OF
  • 00:22:48.110 --> 00:22:49.080
  • THE BABYLONIAN KINGDOM AND THE
  • 00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:50.250
  • TOP OF THE PERSIAN KINGDOM.
  • 00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:52.030
  • HE LOVED THE PEOPLE THAT HE WAS
  • 00:22:52.030 --> 00:22:54.000
  • WITH.
  • 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:54.150
  • EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE
  • 00:22:54.150 --> 00:22:55.050
  • A PAGAN NATION,
  • 00:22:55.050 --> 00:22:56.170
  • HE STILL HAD THE HEART OF GOD
  • 00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:57.210
  • FOR THESE PEOPLE.
  • 00:22:57.210 --> 00:22:58.180
  • HE WASN'T OUT JUST AN ISSUES'
  • 00:22:58.180 --> 00:22:59.280
  • FIGHTER, YOU'RE DOING WRONG,
  • 00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:01.070
  • YOU'RE DOING THIS.
  • 00:23:01.070 --> 00:23:02.120
  • AND GOD ROSE HIM TO THE TOP
  • 00:23:02.120 --> 00:23:04.070
  • OF THESE KINGDOMS.
  • 00:23:04.070 --> 00:23:04.280
  • BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
  • 00:23:04.280 --> 00:23:06.050
  • WHEN THE CULTURAL WIND SHIFTED
  • 00:23:06.050 --> 00:23:07.270
  • AND NO LONGER FAVORED HIS
  • 00:23:07.270 --> 00:23:09.020
  • CONVICTIONS,
  • 00:23:09.020 --> 00:23:10.080
  • HE STOOD WITH COURAGE.
  • 00:23:10.080 --> 00:23:11.150
  • AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING
  • 00:23:11.150 --> 00:23:12.280
  • CHRISTIAN BUSINESS LEADERS,
  • 00:23:12.280 --> 00:23:14.060
  • CHRISTIAN EDUCATION, EDUCATORS,
  • 00:23:14.060 --> 00:23:16.180
  • I MEAN ANYBODY,
  • 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:17.210
  • ANY CHRISTIAN IN ANY WALK OF
  • 00:23:17.210 --> 00:23:19.110
  • LIFE ACROSS ANY INSTITUTION
  • 00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:21.160
  • IN SOCIETY,
  • 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:22.160
  • IT'S TIME TO BE COURAGEOUS
  • 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.260
  • AND TO LOVE OUR NATION.
  • 00:23:23.260 --> 00:23:25.040
  • MATT HAGEE: AND TO BE WHO THEY
  • 00:23:25.040 --> 00:23:26.080
  • ARE IN CHRIST.
  • 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:27.070
  • DAVID BENHAM: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:23:27.070 --> 00:23:28.150
  • MATT HAGEE: I AM A BELIEVER
  • 00:23:28.150 --> 00:23:29.200
  • IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE I AM
  • 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.290
  • ANYTHING ELSE,
  • 00:23:30.290 --> 00:23:31.290
  • BECAUSE IF I DON'T HAVE THAT,
  • 00:23:31.290 --> 00:23:33.070
  • THEN I REALLY HAVE NOTHING
  • 00:23:33.070 --> 00:23:34.080
  • ELSE.
  • 00:23:34.080 --> 00:23:35.030
  • AND SO MY FAITH COMES BEFORE
  • 00:23:35.030 --> 00:23:36.170
  • MY PATRIOTISM.
  • 00:23:36.170 --> 00:23:37.170
  • AND MY FAITH COMES BEFORE
  • 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:38.210
  • MY FATHERHOOD.
  • 00:23:38.210 --> 00:23:39.150
  • AND MY FAITH COMES BEFORE BEING
  • 00:23:39.150 --> 00:23:41.090
  • A HUSBAND.
  • 00:23:41.090 --> 00:23:42.130
  • AND HAVING DONE ALL OF THOSE
  • 00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:44.030
  • THINGS,
  • 00:23:44.030 --> 00:23:45.130
  • IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE
  • 00:23:45.130 --> 00:23:46.210
  • UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED TO BE
  • 00:23:46.210 --> 00:23:48.000
  • WHO THEY ARE IN CHRIST,
  • 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.100
  • AND THEN HE'LL LEAD THEM
  • 00:23:50.100 --> 00:23:51.220
  • INTO THOSE OTHER PATHS
  • 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:52.160
  • AND AVENUES OF LIFE.
  • 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.220
  • YOU'RE DOING THIS THROUGH YOUR
  • 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:54.170
  • BOOK ABOUT LIVING IN THE LION'S
  • 00:23:54.170 --> 00:23:56.170
  • DEN; IS THAT CORRECT?
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:57.090
  • KENDAL HAGEE: "LIVING AMONG
  • 00:23:57.090 --> 00:23:58.000
  • LIONS."
  • 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.010
  • JASON BENHAM: YOU'RE
  • 00:23:59.010 --> 00:23:59.270
  • BUTCHERING THE TITLE,
  • 00:23:59.270 --> 00:24:01.020
  • BUT YOUR WIFE,
  • 00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:01.210
  • SHE BROUGHT IT BACK.
  • 00:24:01.210 --> 00:24:02.070
  • THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:24:02.070 --> 00:24:03.020
  • MATT HAGEE: SHE'S A NURSE;
  • 00:24:03.020 --> 00:24:04.050
  • I'M A PASTOR.
  • 00:24:04.050 --> 00:24:05.120
  • YOU KNOW BEING CHARISMATIC,
  • 00:24:05.120 --> 00:24:06.210
  • I MAKE NO MISTAKES.
  • 00:24:06.210 --> 00:24:07.190
  • I'M SPIRIT LED.
  • 00:24:07.190 --> 00:24:08.110
  • Y'ALL NAMED IT THE WRONG THING.
  • 00:24:08.110 --> 00:24:09.180
  • JASON BENHAM: IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:10.090
  • IT'S OKAY, KENDAL.
  • 00:24:10.090 --> 00:24:11.090
  • DAVID BENHAM: WE'RE GUILTY.
  • 00:24:11.090 --> 00:24:12.050
  • WE'RE WRONG.
  • 00:24:12.050 --> 00:24:12.260
  • JASON BENHAM: WE'LL JUST CALL
  • 00:24:12.260 --> 00:24:13.250
  • YOU "KENDAL" FROM HERE ON OUT.
  • 00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:14.280
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:24:14.280 --> 00:24:15.190
  • DAVID BENHAM: YES.
  • 00:24:15.190 --> 00:24:16.090
  • BUT WE WROTE THE BOOK
  • 00:24:16.090 --> 00:24:17.030
  • "LIVING AMONG LIONS."
  • 00:24:17.030 --> 00:24:17.240
  • DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING
  • 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:18.140
  • ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:18.240
  • JASON BENHAM: I CALLED YOU
  • 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.140
  • KENDAL.
  • 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:20.040
  • YOU DIDN'T EVEN HEAR IT.
  • 00:24:20.040 --> 00:24:20.250
  • IT WAS GREAT.
  • 00:24:20.250 --> 00:24:21.120
  • SHE LOVED IT.
  • 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:21.260
  • MATT HAGEE: I HEARD YOU, BRAD.
  • 00:24:21.260 --> 00:24:23.100
  • JASON BENHAM: THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:24.050
  • BUT YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT LIKE
  • 00:24:24.050 --> 00:24:25.070
  • WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,
  • 00:24:25.070 --> 00:24:25.270
  • LIVING OUR FAITH BEFORE
  • 00:24:25.270 --> 00:24:26.230
  • PATRIOTISM.
  • 00:24:26.230 --> 00:24:27.250
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK
  • 00:24:27.250 --> 00:24:28.200
  • ABOUT WITH DANIEL,
  • 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.210
  • IS THAT HE LIVED
  • 00:24:29.210 --> 00:24:30.090
  • FROM THE INSIDE OUT.
  • 00:24:30.090 --> 00:24:31.120
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:24:31.120 --> 00:24:32.030
  • JASON BENHAM: YOU KNOW BEFORE
  • 00:24:32.030 --> 00:24:33.070
  • HE HAD COURAGE THAT TRANSFORMED
  • 00:24:33.070 --> 00:24:34.210
  • HIS WORLD,
  • 00:24:34.210 --> 00:24:35.290
  • HE HAD COMMITMENTS THAT
  • 00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:37.010
  • TRANSFORMED HIS LIFESTYLE.
  • 00:24:37.010 --> 00:24:38.090
  • BUT IT FIRST MANIFESTED ITSELF
  • 00:24:38.090 --> 00:24:39.280
  • IN CONVICTION THAT TRANSFORMED
  • 00:24:39.280 --> 00:24:41.030
  • HIS HEART.
  • 00:24:41.030 --> 00:24:41.280
  • GOD WAS HIS.
  • 00:24:41.280 --> 00:24:43.110
  • IT WAS HIS OWN.
  • 00:24:43.110 --> 00:24:44.210
  • AND THAT WAS HIS RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:24:44.210 --> 00:24:45.270
  • HE DIDN'T BORROW IT
  • 00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:46.140
  • FROM HIS DAD.
  • 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:47.050
  • HE DIDN'T BORROW IT
  • 00:24:47.050 --> 00:24:47.220
  • FROM HIS PASTOR.
  • 00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:48.280
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TELLING A LOT
  • 00:24:48.280 --> 00:24:49.240
  • OF YOUNG KIDS NOW IS
  • 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:50.230
  • START RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:51.170
  • MAKE GOD YOURS.
  • 00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:53.060
  • YOU ACCEPT HIM AS PERSONAL LORD
  • 00:24:53.060 --> 00:24:54.260
  • AND SAVIOR,
  • 00:24:54.260 --> 00:24:55.200
  • AND THEN YOU GO AFTER HIM
  • 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.010
  • WITH ALL YOUR HEART, SOUL, MIND,
  • 00:24:57.010 --> 00:24:58.130
  • AND STRENGTH;
  • 00:24:58.130 --> 00:24:59.180
  • AND THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT,
  • 00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:00.130
  • HE BECOMES YOURS.
  • 00:25:00.130 --> 00:25:01.200
  • SO WHEN THE CULTURAL WINDS
  • 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.020
  • START TO BLOW ON YOUR LIGHT,
  • 00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:05.090
  • IT'LL ACTUALLY IGNITE.
  • 00:25:05.090 --> 00:25:06.160
  • AND IT'S JUST A PRODUCT OF WHAT
  • 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.050
  • HAPPENS AFTERWARDS.
  • 00:25:08.050 --> 00:25:09.120
  • KENDAL HAGEE: AND HOW DID YOU
  • 00:25:09.120 --> 00:25:10.080
  • HANDLE THIS HOSTILE
  • 00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:11.020
  • ENVIRONMENT?
  • 00:25:11.020 --> 00:25:11.130
  • I MEAN YOU GOT FIRED.
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  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?
  • 00:25:12.070 --> 00:25:13.020
  • JASON BENHAM: WELL HE BAWLED
  • 00:25:13.020 --> 00:25:13.290
  • HIS EYES OUT.
  • 00:25:13.290 --> 00:25:14.250
  • I WAS ABLE TO PULL HIM THROUGH
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  • IT.
  • 00:25:15.250 --> 00:25:16.160
  • KENDAL HAGEE: DID YOU PUT IT
  • 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:17.110
  • ON SOCIAL MEDIA, TWEET AND --
  • 00:25:17.110 --> 00:25:19.010
  • DAVID BENHAM: YEAH,
  • 00:25:19.010 --> 00:25:19.240
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:20.170
  • HE STARTED SUCKING HIS THUMB.
  • 00:25:20.170 --> 00:25:21.190
  • YOU KNOW THE COMMERCIALS HAD
  • 00:25:21.190 --> 00:25:23.130
  • ALREADY STARTED AIRING,
  • 00:25:23.130 --> 00:25:24.220
  • AND WE GET FIRED.
  • 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:26.170
  • AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN,
  • 00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:29.030
  • HANNITY'S REACHING OUT,
  • 00:25:29.030 --> 00:25:30.050
  • AND O'REILLY.
  • 00:25:30.050 --> 00:25:31.030
  • I MEAN AND EVERYBODY'S REACHING
  • 00:25:31.030 --> 00:25:32.160
  • OUT TO US.
  • 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.120
  • AND SO WHAT JASON AND I FOUND
  • 00:25:33.120 --> 00:25:34.130
  • OURSELVES,
  • 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:35.040
  • IN THE SCRIPTURE WHEN JESUS
  • 00:25:35.040 --> 00:25:35.290
  • SAID,
  • 00:25:35.290 --> 00:25:36.180
  • "WHEN YOU ARE DRUG BEFORE
  • 00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:37.150
  • MAGISTRATES AND KINGS,
  • 00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:38.090
  • DON'T PREPARE BEFOREHAND WHAT
  • 00:25:38.090 --> 00:25:39.170
  • TO SAY;
  • 00:25:39.170 --> 00:25:40.020
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL FILL YOU,"
  • 00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:41.230
  • AND BY GOD'S GRACE,
  • 00:25:41.230 --> 00:25:43.040
  • WE EXPERIENCED THAT.
  • 00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:44.010
  • WE DIDN'T PREPARE A THING.
  • 00:25:44.010 --> 00:25:45.030
  • WE DID 200 ONE-ON-ONE
  • 00:25:45.030 --> 00:25:46.090
  • INTERVIEWS IN TWO WEEKS.
  • 00:25:46.090 --> 00:25:48.000
  • IT BECAME THE NUMBER ONE STORY
  • 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.100
  • ON FACEBOOK FOR A COUPLE
  • 00:25:49.100 --> 00:25:50.070
  • OF DAYS.
  • 00:25:50.070 --> 00:25:50.250
  • AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,
  • 00:25:50.250 --> 00:25:51.140
  • JASON AND I,
  • 00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:52.190
  • WE'RE SITTING HERE TALKING
  • 00:25:52.190 --> 00:25:54.080
  • AND THE HOLY SPIRIT'S ACTUALLY
  • 00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:55.020
  • FILLING US.
  • 00:25:55.020 --> 00:25:55.190
  • AND I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE,
  • 00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:56.260
  • IF JASON -- I MEAN IF THE
  • 00:25:56.260 --> 00:25:58.040
  • HOLY SPIRIT CAN USE JASON,
  • 00:25:58.040 --> 00:25:59.180
  • HE CAN USE AND SPEAK THROUGH
  • 00:25:59.180 --> 00:26:00.290
  • ANYONE.
  • 00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:01.180
  • JASON BENHAM: AND I WAS ABOUT
  • 00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:02.140
  • TO SAY SOMETHING SERIOUS, TOO.
  • 00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:03.140
  • YOU KNOW WE ALL HEAR THAT VERSE,
  • 00:26:03.140 --> 00:26:05.140
  • "DON'T PREPARE BEFORE HAPPENED
  • 00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:06.220
  • WHAT TO SAY;
  • 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:07.190
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU
  • 00:26:07.190 --> 00:26:08.120
  • UTTERANCE."
  • 00:26:08.120 --> 00:26:08.290
  • WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THE WAY
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:10.080
  • THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES YOU
  • 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:11.070
  • UTTERANCE IS THROUGH THE LOVE
  • 00:26:11.070 --> 00:26:12.180
  • THAT YOU FEEL TOWARD
  • 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.120
  • THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PERSECUTING
  • 00:26:13.120 --> 00:26:14.140
  • YOU.
  • 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:15.150
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:26:15.150 --> 00:26:16.020
  • JASON BENHAM: THE MINUTE YOU
  • 00:26:16.020 --> 00:26:17.070
  • FEEL THAT PERSECUTION COMING,
  • 00:26:17.070 --> 00:26:18.020
  • IF YOU LOVE THOSE PEOPLE,
  • 00:26:18.020 --> 00:26:18.250
  • THEN OPEN YOUR MOUTH.
  • 00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:19.260
  • BUT IF YOU DON'T,
  • 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:21.070
  • KEEP YOUR YAPPER SHUT.
  • 00:26:21.070 --> 00:26:23.050
  • MATT HAGEE: BECAUSE THERE'S
  • 00:26:23.050 --> 00:26:24.250
  • ANOTHER SIDE OF THE INDIVIDUAL
  • 00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:26.150
  • IN THERE.
  • 00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:27.000
  • THERE'S THE SPIRIT-LED SIDE
  • 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:28.050
  • OF YOU.
  • 00:26:28.050 --> 00:26:28.280
  • AND THEN THERE'S THAT
  • 00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:29.160
  • NATURAL-BORN SIDE OF YOU.
  • 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:30.230
  • AND I MEAN YOU'RE COMPETITIVE
  • 00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:31.190
  • GUYS.
  • 00:26:31.190 --> 00:26:32.050
  • YOU PLAYED BASEBALL.
  • 00:26:32.050 --> 00:26:33.010
  • YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT
  • 00:26:33.010 --> 00:26:33.220
  • THE SCORE CARD SAYS.
  • 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:34.260
  • YOU KNOW WHAT THE PITCH COUNT
  • 00:26:34.260 --> 00:26:35.260
  • IS.
  • 00:26:35.260 --> 00:26:36.170
  • AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE GOING,
  • 00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:38.040
  • I WANT TO REAR BACK
  • 00:26:38.040 --> 00:26:39.000
  • AND TAG THIS ONE.
  • 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:39.290
  • KENDAL HAGEE: DON'T SWING
  • 00:26:39.290 --> 00:26:40.250
  • AT EVERY PITCH.
  • 00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:42.100
  • MATT HAGEE: TIME OUT.
  • 00:26:42.100 --> 00:26:43.110
  • JASON BENHAM: LISTEN TO HER.
  • 00:26:43.110 --> 00:26:44.050
  • MATT HAGEE: HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
  • 00:26:44.050 --> 00:26:45.060
  • DAVID BENHAM: I JUST WANT TO
  • 00:26:45.060 --> 00:26:46.010
  • LISTEN TO HER FOR THE REST
  • 00:26:46.010 --> 00:26:46.250
  • OF THE TIME.
  • 00:26:46.250 --> 00:26:47.150
  • MATT HAGEE: YOU'RE WATCHING
  • 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:48.080
  • THIS PROGRAM AND YOU FIND
  • 00:26:48.080 --> 00:26:49.050
  • YOURSELF IN A HOSTILE
  • 00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:50.060
  • ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUR FAITH,
  • 00:26:50.060 --> 00:26:51.210
  • I WANT YOU TO GO TO PASTOR MATT
  • 00:26:51.210 --> 00:26:53.170
  • AND KENDAL'S FACEBOOK PAGE,
  • 00:26:53.170 --> 00:26:54.290
  • BECAUSE WE'RE GOING CONTINUE
  • 00:26:54.290 --> 00:26:55.240
  • THIS CONVERSATION
  • 00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:56.190
  • WITH THE BENHAM BROTHERS.
  • 00:26:56.190 --> 00:26:57.270
  • YOU'RE WATCHING
  • 00:26:57.270 --> 00:26:58.130
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:26:58.130 --> 00:26:59.000
  • I WANT TO THANK YOU
  • 00:26:59.000 --> 00:26:59.190
  • FOR JOINING US TODAY.
  • 00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:00.130
  • I WANT YOU TO CHECK OUT
  • 00:27:00.130 --> 00:27:01.060
  • GORDON MOTE'S MUSIC.
  • 00:27:01.060 --> 00:27:02.170
  • YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT ON ITUNES,
  • 00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:04.010
  • AND FIND OUT MORE
  • 00:27:04.010 --> 00:27:05.040
  • ABOUT THIS BOOK.
  • 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:05.250
  • KENDAL HAGEE: "LIVING AMONG
  • 00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:07.020
  • LIONS."
  • 00:27:07.020 --> 00:27:07.200
  • MATT HAGEE: "LIVING AMONG
  • 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:08.080
  • LIONS."
  • 00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:08.200
  • THANK YOU DEAR.
  • 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:09.120
  • HOW COULD I DO IT WITHOUT YOU?
  • 00:27:09.120 --> 00:27:10.080
  • YOU'RE WATCHING
  • 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:10.290
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:27:10.290 --> 00:27:12.100
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:27:12.100 --> 00:27:13.210
  • (APPLAUSE)
  • 00:27:18.130 --> 00:27:21.130