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A Father's Guidance

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September 27, 2020
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In Touch is the teaching ministry of Dr. Charles Stanley.

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A Father's Guidance

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  • - Andy Stanley: Hi Everybody!
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  • - Andy Stanley: Hi Everybody!Welcome to this special edition
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  • Welcome to this special editionof "In Touch".
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  • of "In Touch".I'm Andy, and I'm here with
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  • I'm Andy, and I'm here withmy dad, and we're celebrating
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  • my dad, and we're celebratinghis eighty-eighth birthday!
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  • his eighty-eighth birthday!Which means his birthday cake
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  • Which means his birthday cakewill be a fire hazard this year!
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  • will be a fire hazard this year!I don't know if you've thought
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  • I don't know if you've thoughtabout that or not.
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  • about that or not.Now Dad, ah this year has been
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  • Now Dad, ah this year has beenfull of changes for all of us
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  • full of changes for all of usand we're going to talk a little
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  • and we're going to talk a littlebit about how you've navigated
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  • bit about how you've navigatedthis year's changes.
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  • this year's changes.But even more than that,
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  • But even more than that,I can't wait to talk to him
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  • I can't wait to talk to himabout the ways that God has been
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  • about the ways that God has beenan anchor in his life,
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  • an anchor in his life,throughout his life,
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  • throughout his life,through many of the challenges,
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  • through many of the challenges,and many of the changes.
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  • and many of the changes.So, we're going to tell
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  • So, we're going to tella few stories.
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  • a few stories.I'm going to coax him to tell
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  • I'm going to coax him to tella few stories that perhaps
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  • a few stories that perhapsyou have never heard before.
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  • you have never heard before.So, are you ready?
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  • So, are you ready?- Dr. Charles Stanley: Ready.
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  • - Dr. Stanley:
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  • - Dr. Stanley:Four decades ago,
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  • Four decades ago,we started In Touch Ministries
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  • we started In Touch Ministriesto lead people worldwide
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  • to lead people worldwideinto a growing relationship
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  • into a growing relationshipwith Jesus Christ.
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  • with Jesus Christ.Throughout the years,
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  • Throughout the years,we've seen God's greatness,
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  • we've seen God's greatness,his love and his blessings
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  • his love and his blessingsin such awesome ways
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  • in such awesome waysthat we just want everyone
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  • that we just want everyoneto know him.
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  • to know him.So, let's open God's Word
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  • - male announcer: Next on,
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  • - male announcer: Next on,"In Touch",
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  • - Andy: So, I would like to
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  • - Andy: So, I would like tobegin our conversation talking
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  • begin our conversation talkingabout parenting.
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  • about parenting.But before I talk about what a
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  • But before I talk about what agood dad you are and have been
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  • good dad you are and have beenmy whole life, I think
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  • my whole life, I thinkit's important for people
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  • it's important for peopleto know a little bit
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  • to know a little bitabout your background because,
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  • about your background because,you grew up without your father.
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  • you grew up without your father.So, can you catch people up on
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  • So, can you catch people up onjust your growing up years?
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  • just your growing up years?And then I want to talk a little
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  • And then I want to talk a littlebit about what a great dad you
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  • bit about what a great dad youwere, and how in the world
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  • were, and how in the worlddid you ever figure that out?
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  • did you ever figure that out?So, you grew--you were born
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  • So, you grew--you were bornin Dry Fork, Virginia.
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  • in Dry Fork, Virginia.- Dr. Stanley: Dry Fork,
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Dry Fork,Virginia.
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  • Virginia.My father died when I was
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  • My father died when I wasnine months of age.
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  • nine months of age.So, my mother had to go to work.
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  • So, my mother had to go to work.And so, then I got shifted
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  • And so, then I got shiftedaround from one person
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  • around from one personto the other, keeping me,
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  • to the other, keeping me,while she worked.
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  • while she worked.And that went on for a number
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  • And that went on for a numberof years.
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  • of years.And then, of course, starting
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  • And then, of course, startingto school, I was very shy.
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  • And I think, how did I ever get
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  • And I think, how did I ever getthrough grammar school?
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  • through grammar school?- Andy: Yeah.
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  • - Andy: Yeah.Because in in some cases,
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  • Because in in some cases,I remember these stories
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  • I remember these storiesas a kid.
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  • as a kid.You know, when I thought
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  • You know, when I thoughtI had it hard, you would talk
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  • I had it hard, you would talkabout getting yourself up
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  • about getting yourself upin the morning, fixing your
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  • in the morning, fixing yourown breakfast, because your Mom
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  • own breakfast, because your Momhad already gone to work
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  • had already gone to workat the mill.
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  • at the mill.- Dr. Stanley: Well, it was
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Well, it wasdifficult but, you know, my Mom
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  • difficult but, you know, my Momtaught me how to fry an egg,
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  • taught me how to fry an egg,or scramble an egg, and toast.
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  • or scramble an egg, and toast.And then, of course after
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  • And then, of course aftera while, I learned that well
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  • a while, I learned that wellenough so I could just fix me
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  • enough so I could just fix memaybe some other things.
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  • maybe some other things.But, she taught me
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  • But, she taught meto be able to do whatever
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  • to be able to do whateverI needed to do
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  • I needed to doand to trust God,
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  • and to trust God,that He would help me.
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  • that He would help me.And that's the thing
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  • And that's the thingthat I kept hearing her,
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  • that I kept hearing her,just trust the Lord.
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  • just trust the Lord.Just do what you know is right
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  • Just do what you know is rightand trust the Lord.
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  • and trust the Lord.So, she drilled that into
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  • So, she drilled that intomy head and that I could do
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  • my head and that I could dowhatever I needed to do
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  • whatever I needed to doif I would trust Him.
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  • if I would trust Him.- Andy: Wow!
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  • - Andy: Wow!So, one of the mysteries to me
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  • So, one of the mysteries to methat as a kid growing up
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  • that as a kid growing upI didn't appreciate.
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  • I didn't appreciate.But now that I am a Dad,
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  • But now that I am a Dad,I've appreciated so much because
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  • I've appreciated so much becauseso much of what I've done
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  • so much of what I've doneas a Father I learned from you.
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  • as a Father I learned from you.But you didn't have a father
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  • But you didn't have a fatherto learn from.
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  • to learn from.So, you know, how in the world
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  • So, you know, how in the worlddid you figure this out?
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  • did you figure this out?Because I'm going to talk,
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  • Because I'm going to talk,tell some stories
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  • tell some storiesin a few minutes about the kinds
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  • in a few minutes about the kindsof things you did.
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  • of things you did.But I mean, you know, when
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  • But I mean, you know, whenI was born, when Becky was born,
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  • I was born, when Becky was born,you didn't have a role model.
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  • you didn't have a role model.What--how did you figure
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  • What--how did you figurethis out?
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  • this out?- Dr. Stanley: Well,
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Well,my Mom taught me several things,
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  • my Mom taught me several things,and just drilled them
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  • and just drilled themin my head.
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  • in my head.She--to obey, to obey the Lord,
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  • She--to obey, to obey the Lord,to read the Scripture every day.
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  • to read the Scripture every day.Even though
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  • Even thoughI didn't understand it,
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  • I didn't understand it,to read the Scripture every day.
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  • to read the Scripture every day.And to do what I knew was
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  • And to do what I knew wasthe right thing to do.
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  • the right thing to do.But I just saw her reading
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  • But I just saw her readingthe Bible.
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  • the Bible.I watched--
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  • I watched--I listened to her pray.
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  • I listened to her pray.And I watched
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  • And I watchedhow she related to people.
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  • how she related to people.So, I had a great respect
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  • So, I had a great respectfor my Mom being a Godly woman.
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  • for my Mom being a Godly woman.- Andy: So then,
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  • - Andy: So then,when you became a Dad,
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  • when you became a Dad,how did you figure out
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  • how did you figure outthe dad part?
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  • the dad part?- Dr. Stanley: Well,
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Well,I treated y'all the way
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  • I treated y'all the wayI wanted to be treated.
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  • - Andy: Wow!
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  • - Andy: Wow!- Dr. Stanley: I think that
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  • - Dr. Stanley: I think thatsays it all to me because not
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  • says it all to me because nothaving a father and thinking,
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  • having a father and thinking,what would I like
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  • what would I likefor my father to have done?
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  • for my father to have done?So, when I think
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  • So, when I thinkof all the places we went,
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  • of all the places we went,and I never worried about
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  • and I never worried aboutspending money on you all.
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  • spending money on you all.Just have a good time.
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  • Just have a good time.In other words, it just came
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  • In other words, it just camenatural for me because
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  • natural for me becauseI knew that's what a good fa--
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  • I knew that's what a good fa--that's what a good dad would do.
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  • - Andy: Well, I want to talk
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  • - Andy: Well, I want to talkabout a few things
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  • about a few thingsthat you've taught me.
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  • that you've taught me.I'm not even sure I've shared
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  • I'm not even sure I've sharedsome of these with you.
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  • some of these with you.But one of the most important
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  • But one of the most importantthings you taught me was
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  • things you taught me washow to make good decisions.
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  • how to make good decisions.And the way he taught me,
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  • And the way he taught me,how to make good decisions was,
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  • how to make good decisions was,my Dad refused to make decisions
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  • my Dad refused to make decisionsfor me.
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  • for me.In fact, there were
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  • In fact, there wereso many incidents,
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  • so many incidents,and this began really young.
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  • and this began really young.I would say, "Dad,
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  • I would say, "Dad,what do you think I should do
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  • what do you think I should doin this situation?"
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  • in this situation?"And he would say,
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  • And he would say,"Well, what would you do
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  • "Well, what would you doif I wasn't here to tell you?"
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  • if I wasn't here to tell you?"And I would say,
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  • And I would say,"But you are here to tell me,
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  • "But you are here to tell me,and I need you to tell me."
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  • and I need you to tell me."But that habit
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  • But that habitor that tendency you had.
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  • or that tendency you had.Again, I don't know
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  • Again, I don't knowwhere you figured that out,
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  • where you figured that out,forced me to do two things.
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  • forced me to do two things.It forced me to learn how
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  • It forced me to learn howto make good decisions early on.
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  • to make good decisions early on.And then, the second thing was,
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  • And then, the second thing was,you were, you did such
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  • you were, you did sucha great job allowing Becky and I
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  • a great job allowing Becky and Ito face the consequences
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  • to face the consequencesof our decisions.
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  • of our decisions.You never bailed us out.
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  • You never bailed us out.And I guess, because growing up,
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  • And I guess, because growing up,there wasn't anybody to bail you
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  • there wasn't anybody to bail youout when you made bad decisions,
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  • out when you made bad decisions,you had to face the consequences
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  • you had to face the consequencesyourself.
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  • yourself.Right?
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  • Right?- Dr. Stanley: Right.
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Right.And I realized all of that
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  • And I realized all of thatwould drive you to God.
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  • would drive you to God.- Andy: Yep.
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  • - Andy: Yep.- Dr. Stanley: And I wanted you
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  • - Dr. Stanley: And I wanted youto point yourself to Him.
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  • to point yourself to Him."What would God have me to do
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  • "What would God have me to dowhen my dad's not here?"
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  • when my dad's not here?"What would God have me to do,
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  • What would God have me to do,because my father died
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  • because my father diedwhen I was nine months of age.
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  • when I was nine months of age.And I thought, you know,
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  • And I thought, you know,God could take me off the scene,
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  • God could take me off the scene,but I wanted to be sure whenever
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  • but I wanted to be sure wheneverHe did, you knew what to do.
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  • He did, you knew what to do.- Andy: Well, early on, maybe
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  • - Andy: Well, early on, maybetoo early, you just consistently
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  • too early, you just consistentlysaid, "What would you do
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  • said, "What would you door how would you handle that,
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  • or how would you handle that,or how would you fix that
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  • or how would you fix thatif I wasn't here?"
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  • if I wasn't here?"I remember my first traffic
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  • I remember my first trafficticket, I'd like to say it was
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  • ticket, I'd like to say it wasmy one and only traffic ticket.
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  • my one and only traffic ticket.- Dr. Stanley: Ha, ha, ha.
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Ha, ha, ha.- Andy: But, I remember
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  • - Andy: But, I remembermy first traffic tick--
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  • my first traffic tick--I did--had not had
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  • I did--had not hadmy driver's license very long.
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  • my driver's license very long.I got pulled over
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  • I got pulled overleaving school.
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  • leaving school.I got home, and of course
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  • I got home, and of courseI was scared to death,
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  • I was scared to death,like any teenager.
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  • like any teenager."Oh no, what's my Dad
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  • "Oh no, what's my Dadgoing to do?
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  • going to do?Is he going to take away
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  • Is he going to take awaythe car?
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  • the car?Is he going to take away
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  • Is he going to take awaymy license?"
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  • my license?"And you probably
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  • And you probablydon't even remember this.
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  • don't even remember this.So, I came in and, you know,
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  • So, I came in and, you know,apologetically, "Dad,
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  • apologetically, "Dad,I got pulled over by the police.
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  • I got pulled over by the police.He gave me a traffic ticket."
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  • He gave me a traffic ticket."And you didn't get mad.
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  • And you didn't get mad.You said, "Well,
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  • You said, "Well,now you'll have to handle that."
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  • now you'll have to handle that."And I'm like,
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  • And I'm like,"Well, what do I do?"
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  • "Well, what do I do?"And you said, "Well,
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  • And you said, "Well,just turn the ticket over.
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  • just turn the ticket over.It has all the instructions
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  • It has all the instructionson the back."
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  • on the back."And then you just left the room.
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  • And then you just left the room.And suddenly,
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  • And suddenly,instead of punishing me,
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  • instead of punishing me,you basically said,
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  • you basically said,"If you're, you know,
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  • "If you're, you know,if you're responsible enough
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  • if you're responsible enoughto have a driver's license,
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  • to have a driver's license,you are responsible enough
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  • you are responsible enoughto figure out what to do
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  • to figure out what to dowith a traffic ticket."
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  • with a traffic ticket."And you didn't punish me.
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  • And you didn't punish me.You let the law punish me.
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  • You let the law punish me.And then, again, you just put
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  • And then, again, you just putall the decision making
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  • all the decision makingright back in my lap.
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  • right back in my lap.And then, one other thing,
  • 00:07:04.239 --> 00:07:05.774
  • And then, one other thing,and you just alluded to it.
  • 00:07:05.774 --> 00:07:07.209
  • and you just alluded to it.You did a great job
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  • You did a great jobintentionally, taking,
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  • intentionally, taking,you know, reminding
  • 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:13.648
  • you know, remindingmy sister and I, Becky and I,
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  • my sister and I, Becky and I,that ultimately, we weren't
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  • that ultimately, we weren'taccountable to you anyway.
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  • accountable to you anyway.That ultimately,
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  • That ultimately,we were accountable to God.
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  • we were accountable to God.- Dr. Stanley: That's right.
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  • - Dr. Stanley: That's right.- Andy: And the way you taught
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  • - Andy: And the way you taughtus that, again, we would ask you
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  • us that, again, we would ask youa question or, not advice,
  • 00:07:26.328 --> 00:07:27.629
  • a question or, not advice,but a decision, you know,
  • 00:07:27.629 --> 00:07:28.463
  • but a decision, you know,we had to make.
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  • we had to make.And you would say,
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  • And you would say,"Have you prayed about it?
  • 00:07:31.166 --> 00:07:32.267
  • "Have you prayed about it?Have you prayed about it?"
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  • Have you prayed about it?"And, that's was so frustrating!
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  • And, that's was so frustrating!Because I'm like,
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  • Because I'm like,I don't need to pray about it,
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  • I don't need to pray about it,I just need you to help me
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  • I just need you to help memake the decision.
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  • make the decision.But you consistently said,
  • 00:07:40.308 --> 00:07:42.711
  • But you consistently said,"Ask God and, you know,
  • 00:07:42.711 --> 00:07:43.712
  • "Ask God and, you know,whatever you feel like
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  • whatever you feel likethe Lord wants you do."
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  • the Lord wants you do."Growing up, you know,
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  • Growing up, you know,you would lay down with us
  • 00:07:49.317 --> 00:07:50.352
  • you would lay down with usat night and we would always
  • 00:07:50.352 --> 00:07:51.586
  • at night and we would alwayswant you to tell us stories
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  • want you to tell us storiesabout growing up.
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  • about growing up.And so, I would like to ask you
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  • And so, I would like to ask youto share two specific stories.
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  • to share two specific stories.And then, I'm going to share
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  • And then, I'm going to sharea story.
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  • a story.So, let me think, the first
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  • So, let me think, the firststory I want you to talk about,
  • 00:08:03.732 --> 00:08:05.600
  • story I want you to talk about,this kind of relates to money.
  • 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:06.434
  • this kind of relates to money.Talk a little bit about your
  • 00:08:06.434 --> 00:08:09.437
  • Talk a little bit about yourpaper route, because people kid
  • 00:08:09.437 --> 00:08:10.605
  • about, "Oh in the old days,
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  • about, "Oh in the old days,you know, I had to walk so many
  • 00:08:11.706 --> 00:08:13.375
  • you know, I had to walk so manymiles in the snow, uphill both
  • 00:08:13.375 --> 00:08:16.411
  • miles in the snow, uphill bothways," but you literally, that
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  • ways," but you literally, thatwas a literal story for you.
  • 00:08:18.446 --> 00:08:20.348
  • was a literal story for you.So, your Mom is having to work,
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  • So, your Mom is having to work,she's making about ten dollars
  • 00:08:21.449 --> 00:08:22.517
  • she's making about ten dollarsa week.
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  • a week.So, you had to go to work early.
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  • So, you had to go to work early.So, I think the story of how you
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  • So, I think the story of how youdeveloped your paper route
  • 00:08:27.122 --> 00:08:27.956
  • developed your paper routeis fascinating.
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  • is fascinating.And we don't really have paper
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  • And we don't really have paperboys any more like we used to.
  • 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.294
  • boys any more like we used to.But that was a, talk a little
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  • But that was a, talk a littlebit about that because that's
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  • bit about that because that'spart of what transitioned you
  • 00:08:34.763 --> 00:08:36.698
  • part of what transitioned youto the next season of your life.
  • 00:08:36.698 --> 00:08:37.465
  • to the next season of your life.- Dr. Stanley: We had
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  • - Dr. Stanley: We hadtwo newspapers.
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  • two newspapers.One of them was just on Monday
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  • One of them was just on Mondaymorning, since we didn't have a
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  • morning, since we didn't have aregular paper on Monday morning.
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  • And one of them was on Thursday.
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  • And one of them was on Thursday.And so, I kept praying for God
  • 00:08:48.209 --> 00:08:50.579
  • And so, I kept praying for Godto show me something to do.
  • 00:08:50.579 --> 00:08:51.580
  • to show me something to do.And so--
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  • And so--- Andy: To make--
  • 00:08:52.113 --> 00:08:52.914
  • - Andy: To make--have some income.
  • 00:08:52.914 --> 00:08:53.748
  • have some income.- Dr. Stanley: To make
  • 00:08:53.748 --> 00:08:54.416
  • - Dr. Stanley: To makesome money, Yeah.
  • 00:08:54.416 --> 00:08:56.084
  • some money, Yeah.So, I found out I could possibly
  • 00:08:56.084 --> 00:08:57.819
  • So, I found out I could possiblyget a paper route.
  • 00:08:57.819 --> 00:08:58.620
  • get a paper route.I only made about
  • 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:00.288
  • I only made aboutfour something, four dollars
  • 00:09:00.288 --> 00:09:02.123
  • four something, four dollarsor something like that.
  • 00:09:02.123 --> 00:09:03.124
  • or something like that.But that was for two days
  • 00:09:03.124 --> 00:09:04.292
  • But that was for two daysa week.
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  • a week.And it was a long route
  • 00:09:05.460 --> 00:09:07.228
  • And it was a long routeand I had a lot of papers.
  • 00:09:07.228 --> 00:09:09.531
  • and I had a lot of papers.But I said, "Okay God, I'll--
  • 00:09:09.531 --> 00:09:11.700
  • But I said, "Okay God, I'll--This is what I'll do."
  • 00:09:11.700 --> 00:09:12.934
  • This is what I'll do."And then I kept that for a year.
  • 00:09:12.934 --> 00:09:15.203
  • And then I kept that for a year.And I watched this fellow
  • 00:09:15.203 --> 00:09:20.375
  • And I watched this fellowwho had the large paper route,
  • 00:09:20.375 --> 00:09:22.510
  • who had the large paper route,morning and evening, every day,
  • 00:09:22.510 --> 00:09:23.945
  • morning and evening, every day,except Sunday afternoon
  • 00:09:23.945 --> 00:09:24.913
  • except Sunday afternoonand Monday morning.
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  • and Monday morning.- Andy: And you were walking,
  • 00:09:25.714 --> 00:09:26.548
  • - Andy: And you were walking,right?
  • 00:09:26.548 --> 00:09:27.315
  • right?- Dr. Stanley: Yeah, walking.
  • 00:09:27.315 --> 00:09:28.116
  • - Dr. Stanley: Yeah, walking.And it just so happened
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  • And it just so happenedthat all the streets I had
  • 00:09:30.185 --> 00:09:32.454
  • that all the streets I hadwere all downhill.
  • 00:09:32.454 --> 00:09:35.890
  • were all downhill.And, but it was okay.
  • 00:09:35.890 --> 00:09:37.826
  • And, but it was okay.So, I saw this fellow
  • 00:09:37.826 --> 00:09:40.395
  • So, I saw this fellowwho had paper routes and made
  • 00:09:40.395 --> 00:09:42.163
  • who had paper routes and madeabout twenty dollars a week.
  • 00:09:42.163 --> 00:09:43.031
  • about twenty dollars a week.Or it was sixteen
  • 00:09:43.031 --> 00:09:44.499
  • Or it was sixteento twenty something.
  • 00:09:44.499 --> 00:09:45.200
  • to twenty something.- Andy: A week.
  • 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:46.334
  • - Andy: A week.- Dr. Stanley: A week.
  • 00:09:46.334 --> 00:09:47.369
  • - Dr. Stanley: A week.And so, I said, "Well, if you
  • 00:09:47.369 --> 00:09:49.204
  • And so, I said, "Well, if youever give up your paper route,
  • 00:09:49.204 --> 00:09:51.272
  • ever give up your paper route,I'd like to have it."
  • 00:09:51.272 --> 00:09:52.574
  • I'd like to have it."So, he said, "Well, what are you
  • 00:09:52.574 --> 00:09:54.576
  • So, he said, "Well, what are youwilling to give me for it?"
  • 00:09:54.576 --> 00:09:56.144
  • willing to give me for it?"And that was not proper.
  • 00:09:56.144 --> 00:09:57.145
  • And that was not proper.You didn't buy paper.
  • 00:09:57.145 --> 00:09:58.146
  • You didn't buy paper.- Andy: You didn't sell paper
  • 00:09:58.146 --> 00:09:59.981
  • - Andy: You didn't sell paperroutes, right.
  • 00:09:59.981 --> 00:10:00.815
  • routes, right.- Dr. Stanley: So, he said,
  • 00:10:00.815 --> 00:10:01.816
  • - Dr. Stanley: So, he said,"Well, I will sell to you
  • 00:10:01.816 --> 00:10:02.651
  • "Well, I will sell to youfor a hundred and twenty-five
  • 00:10:02.651 --> 00:10:04.352
  • for a hundred and twenty-fivedollars."
  • 00:10:04.352 --> 00:10:05.420
  • dollars."So, I figured that out.
  • 00:10:05.420 --> 00:10:06.321
  • So, I figured that out.A hundred and twenty-five
  • 00:10:06.321 --> 00:10:07.055
  • A hundred and twenty-fivedollars, I'd make that
  • 00:10:07.055 --> 00:10:09.824
  • dollars, I'd make thatback before too long.
  • 00:10:09.824 --> 00:10:11.159
  • back before too long.But my stepfather went
  • 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:12.594
  • But my stepfather wentto the bank with me
  • 00:10:12.594 --> 00:10:13.528
  • to the bank with meand I borrowed a hundred
  • 00:10:13.528 --> 00:10:14.629
  • and I borrowed a hundredand twenty-five dollars.
  • 00:10:14.629 --> 00:10:15.230
  • and twenty-five dollars.The only time
  • 00:10:15.230 --> 00:10:16.831
  • The only timeI ever borrowed any money.
  • 00:10:16.831 --> 00:10:20.769
  • I ever borrowed any money.And so, I bought the route.
  • 00:10:20.769 --> 00:10:22.270
  • And so, I bought the route.I started delivering newspapers.
  • 00:10:22.270 --> 00:10:25.173
  • I started delivering newspapers.I had one long street.
  • 00:10:25.173 --> 00:10:25.907
  • I had one long street.- Andy: I remember you
  • 00:10:25.907 --> 00:10:27.242
  • - Andy: I remember youdriving me down this street
  • 00:10:27.242 --> 00:10:28.109
  • driving me down this streetwhen we would go visit
  • 00:10:28.109 --> 00:10:28.977
  • when we would go visitmy Grandmother.
  • 00:10:28.977 --> 00:10:33.014
  • my Grandmother.And you say it was downhill.
  • 00:10:33.014 --> 00:10:34.082
  • And you say it was downhill.There was nothing flat
  • 00:10:34.082 --> 00:10:35.283
  • There was nothing flatin Danville, Virginia.
  • 00:10:35.283 --> 00:10:36.317
  • in Danville, Virginia.Everything was a hill.
  • 00:10:36.317 --> 00:10:37.452
  • Everything was a hill.But anyway.
  • 00:10:37.452 --> 00:10:38.853
  • But anyway.- Dr. Stanley: Anyway, so--
  • 00:10:38.853 --> 00:10:39.954
  • - Dr. Stanley: Anyway, so--And so, what, first thing I did
  • 00:10:39.954 --> 00:10:42.257
  • And so, what, first thing I didwas make sure I tithed
  • 00:10:42.257 --> 00:10:43.692
  • was make sure I tithedhow much money I made.
  • 00:10:43.692 --> 00:10:49.064
  • how much money I made.And so, I took papers for about,
  • 00:10:49.064 --> 00:10:50.398
  • And so, I took papers for about,well until I went to college.
  • 00:10:50.398 --> 00:10:51.633
  • well until I went to college.- Andy: Yeah.
  • 00:10:51.633 --> 00:10:53.401
  • - Andy: Yeah.- Dr. Stanley: And I saw
  • 00:10:53.401 --> 00:10:55.870
  • - Dr. Stanley: And I sawhow God had prospered me and
  • 00:10:55.870 --> 00:10:58.473
  • how God had prospered me andhelped me, and I could buy some
  • 00:10:58.473 --> 00:11:00.475
  • helped me, and I could buy someof my own clothes for a change.
  • 00:11:00.475 --> 00:11:03.845
  • And I had a little extra money.
  • 00:11:03.845 --> 00:11:06.081
  • And I had a little extra money.So, then of course, I came
  • 00:11:06.081 --> 00:11:08.149
  • So, then of course, I cameto the whole situation of, "How
  • 00:11:08.149 --> 00:11:09.751
  • to the whole situation of, "Howam I going to go to college,
  • 00:11:09.751 --> 00:11:12.253
  • am I going to go to college,making sixteen dollars a week?"
  • 00:11:12.253 --> 00:11:14.689
  • making sixteen dollars a week?"It wouldn't get you in college.
  • 00:11:14.689 --> 00:11:17.225
  • It wouldn't get you in college.But I watched God always provide
  • 00:11:17.225 --> 00:11:18.626
  • But I watched God always providein ways that
  • 00:11:18.626 --> 00:11:19.661
  • in ways thatI couldn't figure out.
  • 00:11:19.661 --> 00:11:20.195
  • I couldn't figure out.In other words,
  • 00:11:20.195 --> 00:11:21.529
  • In other words,I could never have figured out
  • 00:11:21.529 --> 00:11:23.264
  • I could never have figured outhow to go to college
  • 00:11:23.264 --> 00:11:25.834
  • how to go to collegemaking that kind of money.
  • 00:11:25.834 --> 00:11:28.336
  • making that kind of money.And so--
  • 00:11:28.336 --> 00:11:29.337
  • And so--- Andy: And this was the second
  • 00:11:29.337 --> 00:11:30.505
  • - Andy: And this was the secondstory I wanted you to tell
  • 00:11:30.505 --> 00:11:32.507
  • story I wanted you to tellabout how you got to college.
  • 00:11:32.507 --> 00:11:34.242
  • Because, the point of this is
  • 00:11:34.242 --> 00:11:38.012
  • Because, the point of this isyour confidence in God, and your
  • 00:11:38.012 --> 00:11:40.181
  • your confidence in God, and yourfaith in God was not passive.
  • 00:11:40.181 --> 00:11:41.149
  • faith in God was not passive.And this is one of the things
  • 00:11:41.149 --> 00:11:41.850
  • And this is one of the thingsyou taught me.
  • 00:11:41.850 --> 00:11:42.684
  • you taught me.You don't sit back
  • 00:11:42.684 --> 00:11:43.818
  • You don't sit backand ask God to do something
  • 00:11:43.818 --> 00:11:45.453
  • and ask God to do somethingand then just wait.
  • 00:11:45.453 --> 00:11:47.789
  • and then just wait.Your work ethic has always
  • 00:11:47.789 --> 00:11:49.324
  • Your work ethic has alwaysbeen extraordinary.
  • 00:11:49.324 --> 00:11:50.158
  • been extraordinary.At the same time,
  • 00:11:50.158 --> 00:11:51.259
  • At the same time,carving out the right amount
  • 00:11:51.259 --> 00:11:52.093
  • carving out the right amountof time for family.
  • 00:11:52.093 --> 00:11:53.061
  • of time for family.Somehow you figured all that out
  • 00:11:53.061 --> 00:11:54.462
  • Somehow you figured all that outon your own.
  • 00:11:54.462 --> 00:11:56.731
  • on your own.So, you have always modeled, you
  • 00:11:56.731 --> 00:11:58.166
  • So, you have always modeled, youwork as hard as you can possibly
  • 00:11:58.166 --> 00:12:00.034
  • work as hard as you can possiblywork, and then you trust God
  • 00:12:00.034 --> 00:12:02.203
  • work, and then you trust Godto honor your hard work.
  • 00:12:02.203 --> 00:12:03.204
  • to honor your hard work.And so, once again, this is what
  • 00:12:03.204 --> 00:12:04.305
  • And so, once again, this is whathappened with the paper route.
  • 00:12:04.305 --> 00:12:05.306
  • happened with the paper route.And then, that leads us to this
  • 00:12:05.306 --> 00:12:07.408
  • And then, that leads us to thisnext story as you're trying to
  • 00:12:07.408 --> 00:12:08.676
  • next story as you're trying tofigure out, how in the world are
  • 00:12:08.676 --> 00:12:09.611
  • figure out, how in the world areyou going to go to college.
  • 00:12:09.611 --> 00:12:10.478
  • you going to go to college.So--
  • 00:12:10.478 --> 00:12:11.146
  • So--- Dr. Stanley: Well, because
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Well, becauseI look at sixteen to twenty
  • 00:12:11.946 --> 00:12:12.847
  • I look at sixteen to twentydollars a week and I think,
  • 00:12:12.847 --> 00:12:15.750
  • dollars a week and I think,"God, I can't even get
  • 00:12:15.750 --> 00:12:17.752
  • "God, I can't even getto Richmond, Virginia,
  • 00:12:17.752 --> 00:12:19.621
  • to Richmond, Virginia,let alone go to college."
  • 00:12:19.621 --> 00:12:21.089
  • let alone go to college."And so, one night my friend and
  • 00:12:21.089 --> 00:12:22.323
  • And so, one night my friend andI were standing on the street
  • 00:12:22.323 --> 00:12:26.528
  • I were standing on the streetcorner just talking, and
  • 00:12:26.528 --> 00:12:27.862
  • corner just talking, andthe pastor of the Baptist Church
  • 00:12:27.862 --> 00:12:29.264
  • the pastor of the Baptist Churchcame by, and I'd only been--
  • 00:12:29.264 --> 00:12:31.166
  • came by, and I'd only been--I'd only been a member of that
  • 00:12:31.166 --> 00:12:32.600
  • I'd only been a member of thatchurch probably about a year
  • 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:34.769
  • church probably about a yearand he didn't know me very well.
  • 00:12:34.769 --> 00:12:36.271
  • and he didn't know me very well.And so, when he was coming down
  • 00:12:36.271 --> 00:12:37.372
  • And so, when he was coming downthe street,
  • 00:12:37.372 --> 00:12:39.407
  • the street,my friend Julian said,
  • 00:12:39.407 --> 00:12:40.141
  • my friend Julian said,"Mr. Hammick,
  • 00:12:40.141 --> 00:12:41.009
  • "Mr. Hammick,come over here just a moment."
  • 00:12:41.009 --> 00:12:42.343
  • come over here just a moment."And so, he telling him
  • 00:12:42.343 --> 00:12:43.378
  • And so, he telling himwhat I was doing,
  • 00:12:43.378 --> 00:12:44.579
  • what I was doing,and want to go to school.
  • 00:12:44.579 --> 00:12:45.547
  • and want to go to school.And the Lord had called me
  • 00:12:45.547 --> 00:12:46.181
  • And the Lord had called meto preach,
  • 00:12:46.181 --> 00:12:47.549
  • to preach,and I didn't have any money.
  • 00:12:47.549 --> 00:12:49.250
  • and I didn't have any money."Could you help me?"
  • 00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:50.051
  • "Could you help me?"And he didn't know me,
  • 00:12:50.051 --> 00:12:50.885
  • And he didn't know me,I had been going to church
  • 00:12:50.885 --> 00:12:52.120
  • I had been going to churchbut not very long
  • 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.823
  • but not very longat that particular church.
  • 00:12:54.823 --> 00:12:55.456
  • at that particular church.So, he said,
  • 00:12:55.456 --> 00:12:56.257
  • So, he said,"Well, go by to see me."
  • 00:12:56.257 --> 00:12:57.192
  • "Well, go by to see me."So, I went by to see him.
  • 00:12:57.192 --> 00:12:59.294
  • So, I went by to see him.And we talked for probably
  • 00:12:59.294 --> 00:13:01.129
  • And we talked for probablyan hour or so.
  • 00:13:01.129 --> 00:13:03.531
  • an hour or so.To make a long story short,
  • 00:13:03.531 --> 00:13:05.300
  • To make a long story short,I got a four-year scholarship
  • 00:13:05.300 --> 00:13:08.469
  • I got a four-year scholarshipto the University of Richmond
  • 00:13:08.469 --> 00:13:10.071
  • to the University of Richmondwith no explanation.
  • 00:13:10.071 --> 00:13:12.073
  • with no explanation.- Andy: Little did he know,
  • 00:13:12.073 --> 00:13:13.241
  • - Andy: Little did he know,little did he know that he was
  • 00:13:13.241 --> 00:13:16.277
  • little did he know that he wasthe connector between, you know,
  • 00:13:16.277 --> 00:13:18.613
  • the connector between, you know,this kid, you know, who has
  • 00:13:18.613 --> 00:13:19.848
  • this kid, you know, who hasa paper route, who had just
  • 00:13:19.848 --> 00:13:20.782
  • a paper route, who had justfinished High School,
  • 00:13:20.782 --> 00:13:22.217
  • finished High School,who didn't have any money.
  • 00:13:22.217 --> 00:13:23.017
  • who didn't have any money.He was the connector
  • 00:13:23.017 --> 00:13:24.519
  • He was the connectorbetween that unknown kid.
  • 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:25.920
  • between that unknown kid.And apparently, there was
  • 00:13:25.920 --> 00:13:27.488
  • And apparently, there wassome sort of internal prompting.
  • 00:13:27.488 --> 00:13:28.223
  • some sort of internal prompting.I mean, how many kids
  • 00:13:28.223 --> 00:13:29.691
  • I mean, how many kidsin Danville, Virginia,
  • 00:13:29.691 --> 00:13:31.192
  • in Danville, Virginia,needed a scholarship to college?
  • 00:13:31.192 --> 00:13:33.027
  • needed a scholarship to college?A lot, right?
  • 00:13:33.027 --> 00:13:34.996
  • A lot, right?And yet for some reason, he took
  • 00:13:34.996 --> 00:13:38.333
  • And yet for some reason, he tookthe time to give you the time,
  • 00:13:38.333 --> 00:13:39.033
  • the time to give you the time,and then,
  • 00:13:39.033 --> 00:13:40.168
  • and then,after that conversation,
  • 00:13:40.168 --> 00:13:42.403
  • after that conversation,leveraged his connections
  • 00:13:42.403 --> 00:13:44.339
  • leveraged his connectionsto give you that opportunity.
  • 00:13:44.339 --> 00:13:45.940
  • to give you that opportunity.And what an extraordinary role
  • 00:13:45.940 --> 00:13:47.075
  • And what an extraordinary rolehe played in your life.
  • 00:13:47.075 --> 00:13:48.076
  • he played in your life.- Dr. Stanley: Certainly.
  • 00:13:48.076 --> 00:13:48.776
  • - Dr. Stanley: Certainly.- Andy: And He had,
  • 00:13:48.776 --> 00:13:49.777
  • - Andy: And He had,he had no idea.
  • 00:13:49.777 --> 00:13:51.880
  • he had no idea.And I have seen you do that
  • 00:13:51.880 --> 00:13:53.448
  • And I have seen you do thatfor so many people
  • 00:13:53.448 --> 00:13:54.682
  • for so many peoplethrough the years.
  • 00:13:54.682 --> 00:13:56.184
  • through the years.Again, you can't do everything
  • 00:13:56.184 --> 00:13:56.985
  • Again, you can't do everythingfor everybody.
  • 00:13:56.985 --> 00:13:57.852
  • for everybody.But as I say, you know,
  • 00:13:57.852 --> 00:13:58.720
  • But as I say, you know,do for one what you wish
  • 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.221
  • do for one what you wishyou could do for everyone.
  • 00:14:00.221 --> 00:14:01.456
  • you could do for everyone.And he did for one what
  • 00:14:01.456 --> 00:14:02.523
  • And he did for one whatI'm sure he wished he could do
  • 00:14:02.523 --> 00:14:03.658
  • I'm sure he wished he could dofor everyone.
  • 00:14:03.658 --> 00:14:05.493
  • for everyone.And you have done that as well.
  • 00:14:05.493 --> 00:14:07.195
  • And you have done that as well.And it always makes me stop
  • 00:14:07.195 --> 00:14:08.630
  • And it always makes me stopand think when somebody asks
  • 00:14:08.630 --> 00:14:09.664
  • and think when somebody asksfor something specific,
  • 00:14:09.664 --> 00:14:10.465
  • for something specific,or something I don't really have
  • 00:14:10.465 --> 00:14:12.233
  • or something I don't really havethe time or resources to do.
  • 00:14:12.233 --> 00:14:15.036
  • the time or resources to do.I think, we have no idea who God
  • 00:14:15.036 --> 00:14:17.038
  • I think, we have no idea who Godbrings into our lives, but to be
  • 00:14:17.038 --> 00:14:19.073
  • brings into our lives, but to besensitive to that still
  • 00:14:19.073 --> 00:14:21.242
  • sensitive to that stillsmall voice, and to do for one,
  • 00:14:21.242 --> 00:14:22.110
  • small voice, and to do for one,what of course,
  • 00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:23.711
  • what of course,we can't do for everyone.
  • 00:14:23.711 --> 00:14:24.879
  • we can't do for everyone.And that leads us
  • 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:25.914
  • And that leads usto another topic.
  • 00:14:25.914 --> 00:14:26.848
  • to another topic.I want to talk a little bit
  • 00:14:26.848 --> 00:14:29.050
  • I want to talk a little bitabout your grandfather.
  • 00:14:29.050 --> 00:14:30.785
  • about your grandfather.So, your Father died
  • 00:14:30.785 --> 00:14:32.620
  • So, your Father diedwhen you were nine months old.
  • 00:14:32.620 --> 00:14:34.656
  • when you were nine months old.Your grandfather lived
  • 00:14:34.656 --> 00:14:36.724
  • Your grandfather livedin Siler City, North Carolina,
  • 00:14:36.724 --> 00:14:37.825
  • in Siler City, North Carolina,and you had an opportunity
  • 00:14:37.825 --> 00:14:39.394
  • and you had an opportunityto spend some time with him.
  • 00:14:39.394 --> 00:14:40.728
  • to spend some time with him.He was also a pastor
  • 00:14:40.728 --> 00:14:42.063
  • He was also a pastoror a preacher.
  • 00:14:42.063 --> 00:14:44.032
  • or a preacher.And he had a tremendous
  • 00:14:44.032 --> 00:14:45.934
  • And he had a tremendousinfluence on you.
  • 00:14:45.934 --> 00:14:46.801
  • influence on you.Can you talk a little bit
  • 00:14:46.801 --> 00:14:48.303
  • Can you talk a little bitabout that, that time with him?
  • 00:14:48.303 --> 00:14:49.103
  • about that, that time with him?Because, again, it's one
  • 00:14:49.103 --> 00:14:50.204
  • Because, again, it's oneof those defining moments that
  • 00:14:50.204 --> 00:14:51.506
  • of those defining moments thatwe don't know it's happening.
  • 00:14:51.506 --> 00:14:54.242
  • we don't know it's happening.But he sensed something in you
  • 00:14:54.242 --> 00:14:56.945
  • But he sensed something in youand decided to invest in you.
  • 00:14:56.945 --> 00:14:57.645
  • and decided to invest in you.Those were some interesting
  • 00:14:57.645 --> 00:14:59.380
  • Those were some interestingconversations you had with him.
  • 00:14:59.380 --> 00:15:00.181
  • conversations you had with him.- Dr. Stanley: I had only
  • 00:15:00.181 --> 00:15:02.083
  • - Dr. Stanley: I had onlyseen him twice before.
  • 00:15:02.083 --> 00:15:03.151
  • seen him twice before.I was getting ready to go to
  • 00:15:03.151 --> 00:15:05.453
  • I was getting ready to go tocollege, and I thought,
  • 00:15:05.453 --> 00:15:06.521
  • college, and I thought,I'm going to go see
  • 00:15:06.521 --> 00:15:07.922
  • I'm going to go seemy Granddad who's been a pastor
  • 00:15:07.922 --> 00:15:10.925
  • my Granddad who's been a pastorall these years.
  • 00:15:10.925 --> 00:15:11.960
  • all these years.So, he and I would sit
  • 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.630
  • So, he and I would siton his back porch, screened-in
  • 00:15:15.630 --> 00:15:18.366
  • on his back porch, screened-inback porch, in a swing.
  • 00:15:18.366 --> 00:15:19.567
  • back porch, in a swing.And we just--and I just wanted
  • 00:15:19.567 --> 00:15:20.468
  • And we just--and I just wantedto hear him talk.
  • 00:15:20.468 --> 00:15:21.602
  • to hear him talk.He talked about the Bible
  • 00:15:21.602 --> 00:15:22.804
  • He talked about the Bibleand characters in the body and
  • 00:15:22.804 --> 00:15:25.340
  • and characters in the body andsermons, and on and on he went.
  • 00:15:25.340 --> 00:15:30.044
  • sermons, and on and on he went.And one of the things he said
  • 00:15:30.044 --> 00:15:33.414
  • And one of the things he saidwas, we were talking about
  • 00:15:33.414 --> 00:15:35.183
  • was, we were talking aboutbeing obedient to God.
  • 00:15:35.183 --> 00:15:38.586
  • being obedient to God.And he said, "If God tells you
  • 00:15:38.586 --> 00:15:39.654
  • And he said, "If God tells youto run your head through a
  • 00:15:39.654 --> 00:15:42.590
  • to run your head through abrick wall, when you get there,
  • 00:15:42.590 --> 00:15:44.859
  • brick wall, when you get there,God will make a hole for it."
  • 00:15:44.859 --> 00:15:46.527
  • God will make a hole for it."Which is his way of saying,
  • 00:15:46.527 --> 00:15:47.895
  • Which is his way of saying,he didn't interpret that,
  • 00:15:47.895 --> 00:15:50.264
  • he didn't interpret that,but the way I understood it was,
  • 00:15:50.264 --> 00:15:50.832
  • but the way I understood it was,"Well, God'll assume
  • 00:15:50.832 --> 00:15:52.600
  • "Well, God'll assumeresponsibility for whatever I do
  • 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:54.602
  • responsibility for whatever I dothat's obedient to Him."
  • 00:15:54.602 --> 00:15:55.603
  • - Andy: Yep
  • 00:15:55.603 --> 00:15:56.404
  • - Andy: Yep- Dr. Stanley: So,
  • 00:15:56.404 --> 00:15:57.005
  • - Dr. Stanley: So,I walked away.
  • 00:15:57.005 --> 00:15:59.374
  • I walked away.And I remember riding on one
  • 00:15:59.374 --> 00:16:00.375
  • And I remember riding on oneof those old Trailway buses home
  • 00:16:00.375 --> 00:16:02.877
  • of those old Trailway buses homeand thinking in my mind,
  • 00:16:02.877 --> 00:16:06.547
  • and thinking in my mind,"Obey God and not--"
  • 00:16:06.547 --> 00:16:07.048
  • "Obey God and not--"You know,
  • 00:16:07.048 --> 00:16:08.116
  • You know,I had all kind of thoughts then.
  • 00:16:08.116 --> 00:16:10.251
  • I had all kind of thoughts then."Obey God and leave
  • 00:16:10.251 --> 00:16:11.853
  • "Obey God and leaveall the consequences to Him."
  • 00:16:11.853 --> 00:16:12.387
  • all the consequences to Him."I thought,
  • 00:16:12.387 --> 00:16:15.656
  • I thought,"Well, you can't lose that way.
  • 00:16:15.656 --> 00:16:16.324
  • "Well, you can't lose that way.Obey God and leave
  • 00:16:16.324 --> 00:16:18.426
  • Obey God and leaveall the consequences to Him."
  • 00:16:18.426 --> 00:16:20.628
  • all the consequences to Him."And so, I would have to say,
  • 00:16:20.628 --> 00:16:22.196
  • And so, I would have to say,that is the statement
  • 00:16:22.196 --> 00:16:24.565
  • that is the statementthat has governed my life.
  • 00:16:24.565 --> 00:16:26.434
  • that has governed my life.Haven't been perfect of course,
  • 00:16:26.434 --> 00:16:27.869
  • Haven't been perfect of course,governed my life
  • 00:16:27.869 --> 00:16:29.070
  • governed my lifeall these years.
  • 00:16:29.070 --> 00:16:30.171
  • all these years.From big decision
  • 00:16:30.171 --> 00:16:31.506
  • From big decisionto little decisions,
  • 00:16:31.506 --> 00:16:33.007
  • to little decisions,obey Him and leave
  • 00:16:33.007 --> 00:16:34.575
  • obey Him and leavethe consequences to Him.
  • 00:16:34.575 --> 00:16:35.610
  • the consequences to Him.You can't lose.
  • 00:16:35.610 --> 00:16:36.811
  • You can't lose.- Andy: Right.
  • 00:16:36.811 --> 00:16:39.480
  • - Andy: Right.So, switching gears
  • 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:41.149
  • a couple more times.
  • 00:16:41.149 --> 00:16:41.682
  • a couple more times.I want to talk
  • 00:16:41.682 --> 00:16:43.351
  • I want to talkabout perseverance.
  • 00:16:43.351 --> 00:16:44.485
  • about perseverance.This has been one of the themes
  • 00:16:44.485 --> 00:16:45.920
  • This has been one of the themesin your life, not because you
  • 00:16:45.920 --> 00:16:48.956
  • in your life, not because youchose it, but because you didn't
  • 00:16:48.956 --> 00:16:50.324
  • chose it, but because you didn'thave, well, you did have a
  • 00:16:50.324 --> 00:16:52.060
  • have, well, you did have achoice, but you were oftentimes
  • 00:16:52.060 --> 00:16:53.261
  • choice, but you were oftentimesleft with two options:
  • 00:16:53.261 --> 00:16:55.530
  • left with two options:Give up or persevere.
  • 00:16:55.530 --> 00:16:57.231
  • Give up or persevere.You've been through church
  • 00:16:57.231 --> 00:17:00.101
  • You've been through churchsplits, betrayal, you've had
  • 00:17:00.101 --> 00:17:01.803
  • splits, betrayal, you've hadsome health challenges.
  • 00:17:01.803 --> 00:17:02.837
  • some health challenges.And as you know, I've had
  • 00:17:02.837 --> 00:17:04.405
  • And as you know, I've hada front row seat to all of this,
  • 00:17:04.405 --> 00:17:06.307
  • a front row seat to all of this,going all the way back to Miami,
  • 00:17:06.307 --> 00:17:07.909
  • going all the way back to Miami,you know, to moving to Bartow,
  • 00:17:07.909 --> 00:17:08.843
  • you know, to moving to Bartow,Florida, where we lived for
  • 00:17:08.843 --> 00:17:10.711
  • Florida, where we lived foreighteen months, the challenge
  • 00:17:10.711 --> 00:17:12.780
  • eighteen months, the challengeof coming to Atlanta.
  • 00:17:12.780 --> 00:17:14.015
  • of coming to Atlanta.Talk just a little bit about
  • 00:17:14.015 --> 00:17:15.850
  • Talk just a little bit aboutperseverance, because there are
  • 00:17:15.850 --> 00:17:16.818
  • perseverance, because there arepeople watching,
  • 00:17:16.818 --> 00:17:18.352
  • people watching,people listening who especially
  • 00:17:18.352 --> 00:17:18.986
  • people listening who especiallyin this season
  • 00:17:18.986 --> 00:17:20.588
  • in this seasonare going through some really,
  • 00:17:20.588 --> 00:17:22.423
  • are going through some really,really difficult times.
  • 00:17:22.423 --> 00:17:23.724
  • really difficult times.And you just feel like, "Hey,
  • 00:17:23.724 --> 00:17:25.626
  • And you just feel like, "Hey,you know, I never get a break.
  • 00:17:25.626 --> 00:17:27.195
  • you know, I never get a break.It never goes my way.
  • 00:17:27.195 --> 00:17:28.796
  • It never goes my way.What's the point in praying?
  • 00:17:28.796 --> 00:17:29.764
  • What's the point in praying?God's not listening.
  • 00:17:29.764 --> 00:17:30.331
  • God's not listening.What's the point
  • 00:17:30.331 --> 00:17:31.732
  • What's the pointin remaining faithful?
  • 00:17:31.732 --> 00:17:32.633
  • in remaining faithful?God's not responding
  • 00:17:32.633 --> 00:17:33.701
  • God's not respondingto my faith."
  • 00:17:33.701 --> 00:17:35.103
  • to my faith."What, do you say to that person?
  • 00:17:35.103 --> 00:17:36.838
  • What, do you say to that person?And where did you find
  • 00:17:36.838 --> 00:17:38.606
  • And where did you findthe energy or the confidence
  • 00:17:38.606 --> 00:17:40.775
  • the energy or the confidenceto just keep getting back up
  • 00:17:40.775 --> 00:17:42.376
  • to just keep getting back upand moving forward?
  • 00:17:42.376 --> 00:17:43.211
  • and moving forward?- Dr. Stanley: Well, because I
  • 00:17:43.211 --> 00:17:45.012
  • - Dr. Stanley: Well, because Ibelieved with all my heart, if I
  • 00:17:45.012 --> 00:17:48.082
  • believed with all my heart, if Iobey God, He'd help me through
  • 00:17:48.082 --> 00:17:50.384
  • obey God, He'd help me throughwhatever that was, and I won't
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  • whatever that was, and I won'tget into all those stories,
  • 00:17:51.652 --> 00:17:54.922
  • get into all those stories,but time after time after time,
  • 00:17:54.922 --> 00:17:56.891
  • but time after time after time,I watched God answer my prayers.
  • 00:17:56.891 --> 00:17:57.925
  • I watched God answer my prayers.Sometimes I thought Lord,
  • 00:17:57.925 --> 00:17:58.626
  • Sometimes I thought Lord,"You are late,
  • 00:17:58.626 --> 00:18:00.128
  • "You are late,You're getting late."
  • 00:18:00.128 --> 00:18:01.629
  • You're getting late."But He always came through
  • 00:18:01.629 --> 00:18:02.597
  • But He always came throughat the right time no matter
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  • at the right time no matterwhat the situation was.
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  • what the situation was.And I've got lots
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  • And I've got lotsof those illustrations.
  • 00:18:06.901 --> 00:18:10.037
  • of those illustrations.But I--and one thing also
  • 00:18:10.037 --> 00:18:11.072
  • But I--and one thing alsothat helped me was,
  • 00:18:11.072 --> 00:18:13.808
  • that helped me was,I was excited to see
  • 00:18:13.808 --> 00:18:16.277
  • I was excited to seewhat God was going to do next.
  • 00:18:16.277 --> 00:18:17.145
  • what God was going to do next.In other words--
  • 00:18:17.145 --> 00:18:18.212
  • In other words--- Andy: Even in the down times?
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  • - Andy: Even in the down times?- Dr. Stanley: In the down
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  • - Dr. Stanley: In the downtimes, I think, "Okay Lord.
  • 00:18:20.248 --> 00:18:21.949
  • times, I think, "Okay Lord.I've come this far.
  • 00:18:21.949 --> 00:18:22.783
  • I've come this far.I've done what you told me
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  • I've done what you told meto do.
  • 00:18:23.918 --> 00:18:24.986
  • to do.It doesn't look very good,
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  • It doesn't look very good,but I'm going to trust you, and
  • 00:18:26.254 --> 00:18:28.055
  • but I'm going to trust you, andI'm going to see what happens."
  • 00:18:28.055 --> 00:18:28.956
  • I'm going to see what happens."And without fail,
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  • And without fail,God always brought me through
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  • God always brought me throughevery difficult situation.
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  • every difficult situation.Some of them looked absolutely
  • 00:18:35.263 --> 00:18:38.566
  • Some of them looked absolutelyimpossible, but I thought, "God,
  • 00:18:38.566 --> 00:18:40.401
  • impossible, but I thought, "God,You're who You say You are.
  • 00:18:40.401 --> 00:18:41.302
  • You're who You say You are.I'm going to trust You
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  • I'm going to trust Youto prove it."
  • 00:18:43.137 --> 00:18:44.071
  • to prove it."- Andy: I want to just talk
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  • - Andy: I want to just talkabout something fun
  • 00:18:44.739 --> 00:18:46.107
  • about something funfor a moment.
  • 00:18:46.107 --> 00:18:48.576
  • for a moment.You have a hobby that you are
  • 00:18:48.576 --> 00:18:51.145
  • You have a hobby that you areso passionate about that I think
  • 00:18:51.145 --> 00:18:52.713
  • so passionate about that I thinkat times it rivals your love
  • 00:18:52.713 --> 00:18:53.681
  • at times it rivals your lovefor ministry.
  • 00:18:53.681 --> 00:18:54.482
  • for ministry.So, talk a little bit about
  • 00:18:54.482 --> 00:18:56.217
  • So, talk a little bit aboutthe hobby that God has used
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  • the hobby that God has usedto fuel you and to energize you,
  • 00:18:58.753 --> 00:18:59.720
  • to fuel you and to energize you,reenergize you and allow you
  • 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:01.255
  • reenergize you and allow youto see the world.
  • 00:19:01.255 --> 00:19:02.056
  • to see the world.- Dr. Stanley: Well, it has
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Well, it hasallowed me to see the world,
  • 00:19:04.258 --> 00:19:06.727
  • allowed me to see the world,if photography is my hobby.
  • 00:19:06.727 --> 00:19:07.828
  • if photography is my hobby.And I think one of the primary
  • 00:19:07.828 --> 00:19:09.830
  • And I think one of the primaryreasons is, I'm always looking
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  • reasons is, I'm always lookingthrough the camera lens
  • 00:19:11.966 --> 00:19:15.036
  • through the camera lensand seeing what God's done.
  • 00:19:15.036 --> 00:19:16.938
  • and seeing what God's done.I've been places from
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  • I've been places fromthe South Pole to, you name it.
  • 00:19:19.407 --> 00:19:20.908
  • the South Pole to, you name it.And I'm always looking
  • 00:19:20.908 --> 00:19:22.210
  • And I'm always lookingthrough the lens, and I'm always
  • 00:19:22.210 --> 00:19:24.979
  • through the lens, and I'm alwaysthinking, "Wow, God!"
  • 00:19:24.979 --> 00:19:26.514
  • thinking, "Wow, God!"Whether it's fall leaves,
  • 00:19:26.514 --> 00:19:28.316
  • Whether it's fall leaves,or snow-covered mountains,
  • 00:19:28.316 --> 00:19:31.185
  • or snow-covered mountains,or beautiful creeks and rivers,
  • 00:19:31.185 --> 00:19:33.221
  • or beautiful creeks and rivers,and all the places I've been.
  • 00:19:33.221 --> 00:19:35.056
  • and all the places I've been.What it's done, it has given me
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  • What it's done, it has given methe breaks that I needed.
  • 00:19:37.325 --> 00:19:38.559
  • the breaks that I needed.And when I go somewhere to
  • 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.661
  • And when I go somewhere totake a break, I don't look back.
  • 00:19:40.661 --> 00:19:42.096
  • take a break, I don't look back.I don't think about, "I wonder
  • 00:19:42.096 --> 00:19:43.264
  • I don't think about, "I wonderwhat's happening here or there,
  • 00:19:43.264 --> 00:19:44.832
  • what's happening here or there,and so forth."
  • 00:19:44.832 --> 00:19:47.602
  • and so forth."So, I'm very, very grateful to
  • 00:19:47.602 --> 00:19:49.704
  • So, I'm very, very grateful toGod that He has made that a part
  • 00:19:49.704 --> 00:19:52.440
  • God that He has made that a partof my life, and it's just been,
  • 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:54.342
  • it's been like nourishment
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  • it's been like nourishmentto my soul.
  • 00:19:55.142 --> 00:19:56.110
  • to my soul.I see God.
  • 00:19:56.110 --> 00:19:56.911
  • I see God.In other words,
  • 00:19:56.911 --> 00:19:58.312
  • In other words,it isn't photography over here
  • 00:19:58.312 --> 00:20:00.147
  • it isn't photography over hereand preaching over here.
  • 00:20:00.147 --> 00:20:02.583
  • and preaching over here.I just see God in all of that.
  • 00:20:02.583 --> 00:20:04.518
  • I just see God in all of that.And so, I couldn't be more
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  • And so, I couldn't be moregrateful for all the places
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  • - Andy: And you are really,
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  • - Andy: And you are really,really good at it.
  • 00:20:12.994 --> 00:20:13.828
  • And many people have seen
  • 00:20:13.828 --> 00:20:15.229
  • And many people have seensome of your photography, but if
  • 00:20:15.229 --> 00:20:17.365
  • some of your photography, but ifyou've ever visited In Touch
  • 00:20:17.365 --> 00:20:19.133
  • you've ever visited In Touchwhere he has some of his
  • 00:20:19.133 --> 00:20:21.969
  • where he has some of hisfavorite photographs displayed,
  • 00:20:21.969 --> 00:20:23.471
  • favorite photographs displayed,they're spectacular.
  • 00:20:23.471 --> 00:20:24.138
  • they're spectacular.And of course, you've done
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  • And of course, you've donethe calendar year after year
  • 00:20:25.506 --> 00:20:26.307
  • the calendar year after yearafter year.
  • 00:20:26.307 --> 00:20:27.308
  • after year.So, it's just great
  • 00:20:27.308 --> 00:20:29.210
  • So, it's just greatthat you've had that and
  • 00:20:29.210 --> 00:20:31.245
  • that you've had that andit really has not just been
  • 00:20:31.245 --> 00:20:31.912
  • it really has not just beenan outlet,
  • 00:20:31.912 --> 00:20:32.847
  • an outlet,but it really has become part of
  • 00:20:32.847 --> 00:20:34.415
  • but it really has become part ofthe ministry as you've been able
  • 00:20:34.415 --> 00:20:35.483
  • the ministry as you've been ableto share those pictures and
  • 00:20:35.483 --> 00:20:37.285
  • to share those pictures andtalk about some of the stories
  • 00:20:37.285 --> 00:20:39.020
  • talk about some of the storiesbehind some of those pictures.
  • 00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:39.854
  • behind some of those pictures.- Dr. Stanley: And see,
  • 00:20:39.854 --> 00:20:40.721
  • - Dr. Stanley: And see,it's really not separate,
  • 00:20:40.721 --> 00:20:41.689
  • it's really not separate,because here's a sermon
  • 00:20:41.689 --> 00:20:43.291
  • because here's a sermonover here that God's given,
  • 00:20:43.291 --> 00:20:46.460
  • over here that God's given,and here's a view of something
  • 00:20:46.460 --> 00:20:47.795
  • and here's a view of somethingthat people had passed by
  • 00:20:47.795 --> 00:20:50.698
  • that people had passed byand never see that I see.
  • 00:20:50.698 --> 00:20:51.399
  • and never see that I see.So, it's all part
  • 00:20:51.399 --> 00:20:53.968
  • So, it's all partof the same story.
  • 00:20:53.968 --> 00:20:54.468
  • of the same story.- Andy: Alright,
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  • - Andy: Alright,let's wrap up with this.
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  • One of the other statements
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  • I grew up with is this.
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  • "Andy, the most important thing
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  • in the world, the most
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  • important thing in the world is
  • 00:21:04.045 --> 00:21:05.546
  • your personal relationship
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  • with Jesus Christ."
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  • - Dr. Stanley: That's right.
  • 00:21:07.648 --> 00:21:08.316
  • - Andy: "Andy, no matter
  • 00:21:08.316 --> 00:21:08.983
  • what else happens, no matter
  • 00:21:08.983 --> 00:21:10.985
  • what else is going on, you know,
  • 00:21:10.985 --> 00:21:12.153
  • good or bad, the most important
  • 00:21:12.153 --> 00:21:13.921
  • good or bad, the most importantthing in the world, the most
  • 00:21:13.921 --> 00:21:15.056
  • thing in the world, the mostimportant thing in your life is
  • 00:21:15.056 --> 00:21:16.190
  • important thing in your life isyour personal relationship
  • 00:21:16.190 --> 00:21:17.692
  • your personal relationshipwith Jesus Christ."
  • 00:21:17.692 --> 00:21:19.560
  • with Jesus Christ."Now, many people when they hear
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  • Now, many people when they hearthat, they think about a moment
  • 00:21:21.629 --> 00:21:22.797
  • that, they think about a momentin time that they put
  • 00:21:22.797 --> 00:21:23.497
  • in time that they puttheir faith in Christ
  • 00:21:23.497 --> 00:21:24.765
  • their faith in Christand became a Christian.
  • 00:21:24.765 --> 00:21:25.299
  • and became a Christian.But that's not what
  • 00:21:25.299 --> 00:21:26.567
  • But that's not whatyou're talking about.
  • 00:21:26.567 --> 00:21:27.535
  • you're talking about.You're talking about this
  • 00:21:27.535 --> 00:21:30.938
  • You're talking about thison-going intimacy with God,
  • 00:21:30.938 --> 00:21:31.706
  • on-going intimacy with God,that it is the most
  • 00:21:31.706 --> 00:21:32.840
  • that it is the mostimportant thing in our lives.
  • 00:21:32.840 --> 00:21:33.708
  • important thing in our lives.So, as we wrap up,
  • 00:21:33.708 --> 00:21:34.975
  • So, as we wrap up,would you talk just a little bit
  • 00:21:34.975 --> 00:21:35.843
  • would you talk just a little bitabout that?
  • 00:21:35.843 --> 00:21:37.545
  • about that?And I think your story,
  • 00:21:37.545 --> 00:21:39.213
  • And I think your story,your story growing up gives us
  • 00:21:39.213 --> 00:21:41.248
  • your story growing up gives uscontext for why that's always
  • 00:21:41.248 --> 00:21:42.683
  • context for why that's alwaysbeen important to you.
  • 00:21:42.683 --> 00:21:43.718
  • been important to you.But, what do you--
  • 00:21:43.718 --> 00:21:44.919
  • But, what do you--What do you say to the person
  • 00:21:44.919 --> 00:21:46.354
  • What do you say to the personwho they don't think
  • 00:21:46.354 --> 00:21:47.588
  • who they don't thinkin terms of a relationship with
  • 00:21:47.588 --> 00:21:49.724
  • in terms of a relationship withGod or intimacy with Christ?
  • 00:21:49.724 --> 00:21:50.658
  • God or intimacy with Christ?What do you mean when you say
  • 00:21:50.658 --> 00:21:51.559
  • What do you mean when you saythat the most important thing
  • 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:52.793
  • that the most important thingin your life is your personal
  • 00:21:52.793 --> 00:21:54.795
  • in your life is your personalrelationship with Jesus Christ?
  • 00:21:54.795 --> 00:21:55.363
  • - Dr. Stanley: Well,
  • 00:21:55.363 --> 00:21:56.297
  • - Dr. Stanley: Well,I mean exactly what that says.
  • 00:21:56.297 --> 00:21:56.964
  • I mean exactly what that says.That is,
  • 00:21:56.964 --> 00:21:58.032
  • That is,we all have relationships
  • 00:21:58.032 --> 00:22:00.134
  • we all have relationshipswith different people.
  • 00:22:00.134 --> 00:22:01.302
  • with different people.And having a personal
  • 00:22:01.302 --> 00:22:04.004
  • And having a personalrelationship with God means,
  • 00:22:04.004 --> 00:22:06.374
  • relationship with God means,I'm connected twenty-four hours
  • 00:22:06.374 --> 00:22:09.043
  • a day to the Creator, to the
  • 00:22:09.043 --> 00:22:10.978
  • a day to the Creator, to theSavior, to the Lord, the Master,
  • 00:22:10.978 --> 00:22:12.780
  • Savior, to the Lord, the Master,the one Who walks with me,
  • 00:22:12.780 --> 00:22:15.082
  • the one Who walks with me,provides my needs, gives me joy,
  • 00:22:15.082 --> 00:22:17.952
  • provides my needs, gives me joy,gives me strength to deal
  • 00:22:17.952 --> 00:22:19.186
  • gives me strength to dealwith issues in life.
  • 00:22:19.186 --> 00:22:20.287
  • with issues in life.In other words, a personal
  • 00:22:20.287 --> 00:22:21.789
  • In other words, a personalrelationship with Him
  • 00:22:21.789 --> 00:22:23.591
  • relationship with Himisn't something that comes
  • 00:22:23.591 --> 00:22:25.593
  • isn't something that comesand goes when you go to church.
  • 00:22:25.593 --> 00:22:27.027
  • and goes when you go to church.You wake up with Him.
  • 00:22:27.027 --> 00:22:27.962
  • You wake up with Him.You go to sleep with Him,
  • 00:22:27.962 --> 00:22:29.163
  • You go to sleep with Him,talking to Him.
  • 00:22:29.163 --> 00:22:30.131
  • talking to Him.You wake up talking to Him.
  • 00:22:30.131 --> 00:22:31.532
  • You wake up talking to Him.All during the day You see Him
  • 00:22:31.532 --> 00:22:33.501
  • All during the day You see Himin this, see Him in that.
  • 00:22:33.501 --> 00:22:36.971
  • in this, see Him in that.You're interpreting life from
  • 00:22:36.971 --> 00:22:38.472
  • You're interpreting life fromthe view point that God has
  • 00:22:38.472 --> 00:22:41.742
  • the view point that God hastaught you to look at things,
  • 00:22:41.742 --> 00:22:42.977
  • taught you to look at things,and that viewpoint is going
  • 00:22:42.977 --> 00:22:44.712
  • and that viewpoint is goingto be always scriptural.
  • 00:22:44.712 --> 00:22:45.513
  • to be always scriptural.He'll never tell you to do
  • 00:22:45.513 --> 00:22:47.848
  • He'll never tell you to dosomething that's unscriptural.
  • 00:22:47.848 --> 00:22:50.184
  • something that's unscriptural.So, what that does is,
  • 00:22:50.184 --> 00:22:51.318
  • So, what that does is,it makes it possible for you
  • 00:22:51.318 --> 00:22:53.854
  • it makes it possible for youto be happy in difficult times
  • 00:22:53.854 --> 00:22:57.224
  • to be happy in difficult timesand feeling confident and bold,
  • 00:22:57.224 --> 00:22:59.059
  • and feeling confident and bold,and whatever is going on,
  • 00:22:59.059 --> 00:22:59.860
  • and whatever is going on,you're going to make it.
  • 00:22:59.860 --> 00:23:02.062
  • you're going to make it.You'll get through with it.
  • 00:23:02.062 --> 00:23:04.532
  • You'll get through with it.So, it provides this--
  • 00:23:04.532 --> 00:23:06.967
  • So, it provides this--the foundation for my happiness,
  • 00:23:06.967 --> 00:23:08.736
  • the foundation for my happiness,my joy.
  • 00:23:08.736 --> 00:23:10.738
  • my joy.And I am a happy man.
  • 00:23:10.738 --> 00:23:12.573
  • And I am a happy man.I am a joyous person.
  • 00:23:12.573 --> 00:23:15.242
  • I am a joyous person.And so, I just see all that as
  • 00:23:15.242 --> 00:23:18.412
  • And so, I just see all that asa part of God building something
  • 00:23:18.412 --> 00:23:20.514
  • a part of God building somethingin me, teaching me how to
  • 00:23:20.514 --> 00:23:23.818
  • in me, teaching me how tounderstand Him better and I come
  • 00:23:23.818 --> 00:23:25.920
  • understand Him better and I comehome excited about something
  • 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.188
  • home excited about somethingI'm going to show you that
  • 00:23:27.188 --> 00:23:29.056
  • I'm going to show you thatGod's made, that God has done.
  • 00:23:29.056 --> 00:23:30.257
  • God's made, that God has done.So, I'm happy.
  • 00:23:30.257 --> 00:23:31.425
  • So, I'm happy.- Andy: Yep.
  • 00:23:31.425 --> 00:23:32.259
  • - Andy: Yep.It's the most important thing
  • 00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:34.662
  • It's the most important thingin your life is your personal
  • 00:23:34.662 --> 00:23:35.296
  • in your life is your personalrelationship with Jesus Christ.
  • 00:23:35.296 --> 00:23:36.063
  • relationship with Jesus Christ.- Dr. Stanley: Is your personal
  • 00:23:36.063 --> 00:23:37.598
  • - Dr. Stanley: Is your personalrelationship is Jesus Christ.
  • 00:23:37.598 --> 00:23:39.533
  • relationship is Jesus Christ.- Andy: Well, Dad, as we close,
  • 00:23:39.533 --> 00:23:41.368
  • - Andy: Well, Dad, as we close,I would love for you to pray
  • 00:23:41.368 --> 00:23:46.440
  • I would love for you to prayfor us, and I received
  • 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:48.209
  • for us, and I receivedso many things from you.
  • 00:23:48.209 --> 00:23:48.876
  • so many things from you.One of the things
  • 00:23:48.876 --> 00:23:51.378
  • One of the thingsI didn't get is your voice.
  • 00:23:51.378 --> 00:23:54.748
  • I didn't get is your voice.People love your voice,
  • 00:23:54.748 --> 00:23:55.883
  • People love your voice,and I love your voice.
  • 00:23:55.883 --> 00:23:57.551
  • and I love your voice.And so, I would love for you
  • 00:23:57.551 --> 00:23:59.653
  • And so, I would love for youto close by using that fabulous
  • 00:23:59.653 --> 00:24:02.256
  • to close by using that fabulousvoice to close us in prayer.
  • 00:24:02.256 --> 00:24:03.224
  • voice to close us in prayer.Would you do that?
  • 00:24:03.224 --> 00:24:04.024
  • Would you do that?- Dr. Stanley: Well, thank you
  • 00:24:04.024 --> 00:24:05.326
  • - Dr. Stanley: Well, thank youfor giving me this time with you
  • 00:24:05.326 --> 00:24:06.727
  • for giving me this time with youand with all the folks
  • 00:24:06.727 --> 00:24:08.562
  • and with all the folksat In Touch, and thank you
  • 00:24:08.562 --> 00:24:09.563
  • at In Touch, and thank youfor growing up
  • 00:24:09.563 --> 00:24:11.565
  • for growing upand being who you are.
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  • and being who you are.And I couldn't be more proud
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  • And I couldn't be more proudof you and Beck and how God
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  • of you and Beck and how Godhas used both of you all
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  • has used both of you allin the most wonderful way.
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  • in the most wonderful way.And so, when I look back
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  • And so, when I look backand think, "Well, Lord,
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  • and think, "Well, Lord,I must have made
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  • I must have madea lot of mistakes, but you must
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  • a lot of mistakes, but you musthave overlooked them, Lord,
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  • have overlooked them, Lord,because look what you've done."
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  • because look what you've done."So, I want to say thank you
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  • So, I want to say thank youfor being Andy.
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  • for being Andy.- Andy: Well,
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  • - Andy: Well,I appreciate that.
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  • I appreciate that.It's my honor.
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  • It's my honor.I don't know who else to be.
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  • I don't know who else to be.Will you pray for us?
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  • Will you pray for us?- Dr. Stanley: Yeah.
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  • - Dr. Stanley: Yeah.Father, how grateful we are
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  • Father, how grateful we arethat you never change.
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  • that you never change.Awesome God that you are.
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  • Awesome God that you are.Everything Your Word promises
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  • Everything Your Word promisesYou are.
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  • You are.You demonstrate it day after day
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  • You demonstrate it day after dayafter day.
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  • after day.Would you bless this time
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  • Would you bless this timethat we've had together?
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  • that we've had together?May it be an awesome
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  • May it be an awesomeencouragement to parents
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  • encouragement to parentsand people, Lord,
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  • and people, Lord,who are raising their kids
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  • who are raising their kidsin difficult situations.
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  • in difficult situations.And people who are just trying
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  • And people who are just tryingto decide Lord, what kind of God
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  • to decide Lord, what kind of GodYou are, I pray that all that
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  • You are, I pray that all thatwe've talked about will
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  • we've talked about willhelp them to be able to realize
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  • help them to be able to realizeYou're an Awesome God, gracious,
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  • You're an Awesome God, gracious,good, loving God, willing
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  • good, loving God, willingto take us through difficulty,
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  • to take us through difficulty,hardship and pain, willing
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  • hardship and pain, willingto always bring us through.
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  • to always bring us through.Blessed, blessed
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  • Blessed, blessedby Your graciousness
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  • by Your graciousnessand kindness toward us.
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  • and kindness toward us.Thank you, Father,
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  • Thank you, Father,for this time together,
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  • - announcer: If you've been
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  • - announcer: If you've beenblessed by today's program,
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  • - female: Hey guys,
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  • - female: Hey guys,I just got these "Blessed to Be"
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  • I just got these "Blessed to Be"memory verse cards.
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  • memory verse cards.Now, I am not very good at
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  • Now, I am not very good atmemorizing Scripture, but I am
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  • memorizing Scripture, but I amso excited that you're coming
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  • so excited that you're comingon this journey with me.
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  • on this journey with me.- girl: Mom, you burnt
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  • - girl: Mom, you burntthe toast.
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  • the toast.- female: Getting the day
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  • - female: Getting the daystarted right, y'all.
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  • started right, y'all."Blessed are the poor
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  • "Blessed are the poorin spirit.
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  • in spirit.Blessed are the merciful.
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  • Blessed are the merciful.Blessed are the peacemakers,
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  • Blessed are the peacemakers,for they shall be called
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  • for they shall be calledsons of God."
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  • sons of God.""In the same way, let your
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  • "In the same way, let yourlight shine before others
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  • light shine before othersso that--"
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  • so that--"Ugh, okay.
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  • Ugh, okay."So that they may see your
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  • "So that they may see yourgood works and give glory to
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  • good works and give glory toyour Father who is in heaven."
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  • your Father who is in heaven.""Blessed are the meek, for they
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  • "Blessed are the meek, for theyshall inherit the earth.
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  • shall inherit the earth.Blessed are those who mourn,
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  • Blessed are those who mourn,for they shall be comforted.
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  • for they shall be comforted.Blessed are the pure in heart
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  • Blessed are the pure in heartfor they shall see--"
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  • for they shall see--"- girl: Mom, look.
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  • - girl: Mom, look.- female: "So that they may see
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  • - female: "So that they may seeyour good works and give glory
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  • your good works and give gloryto your Father who is
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  • to your Father who isin heaven."
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  • in heaven."Yeah, nailed it!
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  • Yeah, nailed it!- female announcer: Order
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  • - female announcer: Orderyour free set today at
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  • - all: Wow.
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  • - all: Wow.- female: Thank you, guys.
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  • - female: Thank you, guys.- female announcer: Even though
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  • - female announcer: Even thoughlife might take turns
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  • - male: Hey, Briscoe, let's go.
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  • - male: Hey, Briscoe, let's go.- announcer: God created you
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  • - announcer: God created youwith a plan to fulfill an
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  • with a plan to fulfill animportant role in his kingdom.
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  • important role in his kingdom.- male: Yes, good one!
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  • - male: Yes, good one!- announcer: "God's Purpose
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  • - announcer: "God's Purposefor Your Life,"
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  • for Your Life,"a new year-long devotional
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  • - announcer: "In Touch,"
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  • leading people worldwide
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  • into a growing relationship with
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  • Jesus Christ and strengthening
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  • the local church.
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  • This program is sponsored
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  • by In Touch Ministries,
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  • and is made possible
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