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Israel Settlements Do Not Violate the Law

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December 3, 2019

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Israel Settlements Do Not Violate the Law

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LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW LIVE.
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PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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AND NOW CHIEF COUNSEL
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FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
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JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW!
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JAY SEKULOW: THIS WAS BIG NEWS LAST WEEK AND THAT
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IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL
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STOP CLASSIFYING ISRAELI WEST BANK SETTLEMENTS AS A VIOLATION
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OF INTERNATIONAL LAW; A STEP THAT SOME ARE RAISING CONCERNS
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WITH. WHO ARE THOSE SOME? ILHAN OMAR SAYING ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS
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VIOLATE INTERNATIONAL LAW, DECADES OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY
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AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF PALESTINIANS. ALL WHO BELIEVE IN
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THE POSSIBILITY OF PEACE MUST SPEAK UP. SHE'S NOT HAPPY ABOUT
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THIS. IN THE END WE WILL NOT REMEMBER THE WORDS OF OUR
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ENEMIES BUT THE SILENCE OF OUR FRIENDS. RASHIDA TLAIB. THESE
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ARE SHOCKING, BY THE WAY. ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST
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BANK VIOLATE INTERNATIONAL LAW NO MATTER WHAT THIS CORRUPTED,
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IMMORAL TRUMP REGIME SAYS. YEAH, IT'S A LAWLESS, KING LIKE
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DICTATOR. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTS. SO, THAT'S ILHAN OMAR. NO
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GREAT SHOCK THERE. BERNIE SANDERS. ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS IN
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OCCUPIED TERRITORY ARE ILLEGAL. THIS IS CLEAR FROM INTERNATIONAL
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LAW AND MULTIPLE U.N. RESOLUTIONS. ONCE AGAIN MR.
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TRUMP IS ISOLATING THE UNITED STATES AND UNDERMINING DIPLOMACY
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BY PANDERING TO HIS EXTREMIST BASE. LET ME FIRST GO TO SKIP
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ASH. DEFINE WHAT THESE SETTLEMENTS ARE AND WHERE
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THEY'RE LOCATED. SKIP ASH: THE SETTLEMENTS ARE WITHIN WHAT'S
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THE TERRITORY WE KNOW AS THE WEST BANK, WHICH WAS THE
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TERRITORY THAT THE ISRAELIS DID NOT CONQUER DURING THE 1948-49
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WAR. IT WAS OCCUPIED BY THE JORDANIANS. THERE ARE
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SETTLEMENTS THERE THAT ARE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS. THEY'RE
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THERE ON KEY PIECES OF TERRAIN AND THEY'RE THERE FOR THE
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SECURITY OF ISRAEL. AND THEY'RE BECOMING QUITE EXTENSIVE. BUT
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THEY'RE ALSO LAWFUL. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT. WHEN WE GET INTO
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THE LAWFULNESS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT
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THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY LAWFUL. THEY HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED SINCE THE
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MANDATE FOR PALESTINE IN THE EARLY 1920S, AND THEY ARE
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DEFINITELY LAWFUL, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT SOME OF OUR POLITICIANS
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ARE SAYING, AND IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL BODIES
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LIKE THE UNITED NATION'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS SAYING. HERE'S WHAT
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SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO SAID ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE.
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-THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS REVERSING THE OBAMA
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ADMINISTRATION'S APPROACH TOWARDS ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS. THE
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U.S. PUBLIC STATEMENTS ON SETTLEMENT ACTIVITIES IN THE
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WEST BANK HAVE BEEN INCONSISTENT OVER DECADES. -AND THAT IS
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BECAUSE THEY WERE CLASSIFIED AS ILLEGAL UNDER THE OBAMA
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ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS A HUGE DEVELOPMENT. BY THE WAY, WHEN
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YOU'RE THINKING SETTLEMENTS, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THIS ISN'T.
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THIS ISN'T LIKE SMALL LITTLE AREAS. SOME OF THESE ARE HIGHLY
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DEVELOPED TOWNS THAT HAVE UNIVERSITIES IN THEM. I MEAN,
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THESE ARE BIG AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, ISRAEL IS A
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SMALL COUNTRY, BUT IT'S BIG AREAS, IT'S A BIG ZONE. AND THIS
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IS A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, JORDAN. JORDAN SEKULOW: IT IS. YEAH,
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IT'S FORMAL CONSTRUCTION. IT'S NOT IN THE SENSE OF, OH, I PUT
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MY, MY -STAKE IN THE GROUND. -MY FLAG DOWN AND, YOU KNOW,
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I'VE GOT A TENT HERE. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HOW THEY STARTED IN
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THE 1940'S BUT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED INTO FULLY FUNCTIONING
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TOWNS, ALMOST TO THE POINT OF WHERE YOU WOULD SAY SOME ARE
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LIKE CITIES. -YES. -IF YOU WERE LOOKING BACK AND THEN IN A
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DISTANCE YOU SEE WHAT HAS BEEN CREATED THERE. AND, AS SKIP
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SAID, THAT'S BECAUSE THIS AREA, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING
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ENCOURAGED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL. AND SO, FOR THE PEOPLE,
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THEY'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED TO GO THERE AND ENCOURAGED TO DO THIS
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AND TO MAKE THIS THEIR HOME. BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW THAT AT
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SOME POINT, IF THERE WERE ANY KIND OF PEACE TALKS, THEY'LL
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HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THIS LAND. AND SOME OF THIS LAND, ISRAEL
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BELIEVES, IS ISRAEL'S EVEN THOUGH THE MANDATES OF THE U.N.
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AND THIS. SO, I THINK FROM THE U.S. TAKING A STEP, SAYING,
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WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY THIS IS ILLEGAL, HAVE A NEGOTIATION OVER
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IT. -THIS IS A BIG DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LITIGATION
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ON THIS ISSUE. THERE'S BEEN U.N. RESOLUTIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
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THANN, VERY QUICKLY, WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT THIS MOVE IS
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HAPPENING NOW? I MEAN, IT'S BEEN VERY CONSISTENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
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THE GOLAN HEIGHTS DECLARATION. THANN BENNETT: YEAH, NOT
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SURPRISED, JAY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LONG TRACK RECORD THAT THIS
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ADMINISTRATION ALREADY HAS ON THESE ISSUES. LOOK, IT FOLLOWS
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ON THE HEELS OF MOVING THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM,
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RECOGNIZING GOLAN HEIGHTS, AND THEN A WHOLE SLEW OF ACTIONS AT
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THE UNITED NATIONS, JAY, WHICH WE CAN GET INTO. IT'S PRETTY
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CLEAR TO ME THAT THOSE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THAT YOU REFERENCED,
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THOUGH, JAY, THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY READ WHAT THE
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ADMINISTRATION DID. BECAUSE LIKE JORDAN SAID, THEY DIDN'T
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CONCLUDE THE LEGALITY. THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY WERE
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GONNA LEAVE THAT TO THE PARTIES INVOLVED. SO, THOSE MEMBERS OF
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CONGRESS, JAY, THEY'RE JUST REACTING. -THAT'S A 100 PERCENT
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CORRECT. SO, AGAIN, LET ME JUST TELL YOU THIS IS A BIG, BIG
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DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE ON THIS. A LOT GOING
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ON!
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JAY SEKULOW: HEY, WELCOME BACK. SO,
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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL NOW RECOGNIZE ISRAEL'S WEST BANK
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SETTLEMENTS AS NOT VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW, NOT OCCUPIED
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TERRITORY. AGAIN, SKIP, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REITERATE, AND
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I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR HARRY AND WES HERE, IMPORTANT TO
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REITERATE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE
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HISTORY OF THESE AREAS. SKIP ASH: WELL, IF WE BEGIN PROPERLY
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WE'LL BEGIN BACK AFTER WORLD WAR I IN THE TIME AND THE MANDATE
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FOR PALESTINE. THE MANDATE FOR PALESTINE WAS CREATED FOR THE
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VERY PURPOSE OF CREATING A HOMELAND FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
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AND THE BRITISH WERE THE MANDATORY. THEY WERE THE POWER
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IN CHARGE, AND BY THEMSELVES THEY DIVIDED THE MANDATE INTO
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TWO PARTS: THE ONE WE CALL PALESTINE AND THE ONE THAT
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BECAME JORDAN. SO, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THE BRITISH TOOK 78 PERCENT
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OF IT AND GAVE IT TO THE ARABS. SO, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WE NEED
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TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ARABS HAVE A STATE ALREADY OUT OF PALESTINE
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AND IT'S CALLED JORDAN. THEN IN 1948 THE BRITISH WITHDREW AND
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THAT TERRITORY THAT WAS LEFT BETWEEN THE JORDAN RIVER AND THE
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MEDITERRANEAN BECAME THE STATE OF ISRAEL. THERE WAS A CIVIL WAR
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THAT WENT ON BETWEEN THE ARABS AND THE ISRAELIS, AND THE
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ISRAELIS WON. BUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO OCCUPY EVERY BIT. THERE
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WAS A PART ACCUPIED BY THE JORDANIAN ARMY, WHICH WAS CALLED
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THE WEST BANK. AND THERE WAS A PART ACCUPIED BY THE EGYPTIAN
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ARMY, WHICH WAS CALLED THE GAZA STRIP. IN 1967 THERE WAS A WAR
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BETWEEN THE ARABS AND THE ISRAELIS, AND THE ISRAELIS WON
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THOSE TWO PARTS BACK, PLUS THE GOLAN HEIGHTS AND THE SINAI
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DESERT. AND IT'S AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT THE ISRAELIS REALLY
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CLAIMED THE CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW PRIVILEGE OF
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UTI POSSIDET JURIS, WHICH SAYS THE STATE THAT EMERGES WHEN A
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COLONY OR MANDATE CEASES TO EXIST, GETS ALL THE TERRITORY OF
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THAT COLONY OR MANDATE AT THE TIME. AND ISRAEL WAS THE ONLY
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NATION TO EMERGE IN 1948. SO, EVERY BIT OF LAND IN THE
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TERRITORY BETWEEN THE JORDAN RIVER AND THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA
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BECAME ISRAEL. SO, THEY ARE NOW SETTLING IN TERRITORY OVER WHICH
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THEY HAVE SOVEREIGN RIGHTS. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE RECOGNIZED
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PALESTINIAN CLAIMS, AND ARE WILLING TO GIVE UP SOME OF THAT
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FOR A PALESTINIAN STATE, THEY, ACTUALLY, OWN EVERY BIT OF IT
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RIGHT NOW. AND NO INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION, LIKE THE U.N.
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GENERAL ASSEMBLY, OR ANYTHING ELSE, CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM
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THEM. THEY HAVE THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OVER THAT LAND. -WE HAVE
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THE PICTURE, A MAP, UP RIGHT NOW THAT YOU COULD SEE EXACTLY THE
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AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND WHAT IT INVOLVED. SO,
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THIS IS VERY, VERY GOOD. WE ALSO HAVE A CALL COMING IN,
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APPARENTLY, FROM ISRAEL. WE'RE TAKING YOUR CALLS AT
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800-684-3110. JORDAN SEKULOW: YEAH, LOU IS CALLING FROM ISRAEL
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ON LINE ONE. LOU, WELCOME TO JAY SEKULOW LIVE. YOU'RE ON THE AIR.
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-HI, LOU. -HI, HOW ARE YOU? -GOOD. -SO, ACTUALLY, YOUR
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PREVIOUS COMMENTATOR, AND I CAME INTO THE MIDDLE OF THAT
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CONVERSATION SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE
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SO-CALLED WEST BANK, WHICH WE CALL JUDEA AND SAMARIA, OR
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YEHUDA AND SHOMRON. AND THAT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP FROM THE
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20S, 30S, 40S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED IS JUDEA AND SAMARIA. AND
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SO THAT'S THE REAL, REAL NAME. AND SO, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY
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HAVE NO, JORDAN WAS THE ONE THAT ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED FOR 19 YEARS,
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WHICH WAS 1948 AND 1967. THEY ARE THE ONES. AND, BY THE WAY, I
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BELIEVE, I MEAN, JAY, CORRECT ME I'M WRONG OR RIGHT ON THIS, I
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THINK PAKISTAN I THINK WAS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT RECOGNIZED
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THEIR SO-CALLED SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE WEST BANK, WHAT THEY CALLED
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THE WEST BANK. -YEAH, SO, I MEAN, THE INTERESTING ASPECT OF
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THIS IS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS
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AREA, BUT THIS IS, I WANT TO PUT THAT MAP UP. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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A BIG SWATH OF LAND. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN WE CALL
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THESE SETTLEMENTS, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN A SETTLEMENT. OKAY?
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THESE ARE FUNCTIONING CITIES. BUT I THINK, HARRY, IF YOU LOOK
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AT IT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IN LIGHT
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OF THE GOLAN DECLARATION THAT CAME BACK IN APRIL OR MAY OF
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LAST YEAR, WHERE THE PRESIDENT, WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, MET AND
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THE UNITED STATES ISSUED THE DECLARATION SAYING THE GOLAN
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HEIGHTS, WHICH, AGAIN, AT ONE TIME WAS CONTROLLED BY SYRIA
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WAS, IN FACT, ISRAEL'S SOVEREIGN LAND, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLY
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IMPORTANT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY, IT MAKES SENSE FROM A POLICY
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STANDPOINT THAT THIS NOW WOULD BE THIS A NEW APPROACHMENT AS IT
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RELATES TO ISRAELIS, WHAT'S CALLED SETTLEMENTS. HARRY
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HUTCHISON: YOU'RE PRECISELY CORRECT. AND SO, I THINK, IF YOU
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LOOK AT THIS FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, JUDEA AND SAMARIA
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HAVE BEEN LINKED TO JEWISH HISTORY FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
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THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MANDATE
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CREATING THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL, JUDEA AND SAMARIA HAVE
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BEEN LINKED TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL. AND SO, U.S. POLICY, THE
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U.S. POLICY CHANGE ANNOUNCED BY SECRETARY POMPEO IS CONSISTENT
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WITH U.S. OPPOSITION TO BDS AND U.S. CONTINUAL STRONG SUPPORT
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FOR ISRAEL, AS THANN CORRECTLY POINTS OUT, MOVING THE U.S.
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EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM, RECOGNISING ISRAEL'S CONTROL OF
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THE GOLAN HEIGHTS. AND IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT WITH
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RESPECT TO THE TIMING OF POMPEO'S DECLARATION BECAUSE IT
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TAKES PLACE SHORTLY AFTER THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY DECIDED TO
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MIS-LABEL ISRAELI GOODS FROM THE SETTLEMENT, GROUNDED IN THE
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MISTAKEN NOTION THAT GOODS PRODUCED IN THE SO-CALLED
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SETTLEMENT AREAS ARE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES. THIS IS PURE
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POLITICAL THEATER ON THE PART OF THE EUROPEANS. AND THE U.S.
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POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT BY SECRETARY POMPEO, BASICALLY, IS A POINTED
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RESPONSE, IN MY OPINION, TO THAT MISTAKEN NOTION BY THE
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EUROPEANS. -YEAH, AND WES, IT'S NO SHOCK THAT ILHAN OMAR MADE
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HER STATEMENT, ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS VIOLATE THE
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INTERNATIONAL LAW DECADES OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY AND HUMAN
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RIGHTS OF PALESTINIANS. WESLEY SMITH: OH, YEAH. WHAT THIS OLD
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POLICY, WHICH THANKFULLY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
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REVERSING, WHAT IT DOES IS IT PENALIZES ISRAEL ON AN ISSUE
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THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE HISTORY OF THE REGION, THE
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GEOGRAPHICAL REALITIES OF THE REGION, AND THE MULTIPLE ISSUES
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THAT THE PALESTINIANS CONSISTENTLY REFUSED TO ADDRESS.
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YOU KNOW? THIS IS SIMPLY A GOOD THING THAT HAS HAPPENED. THE
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PALESTINIANS HAVE A HISTORY, IN ALL OF MY LIFETIME THAT I CAN
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REMEMBER, OF REFUSING TO TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER. EVERY TIME
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ISRAEL NEGOTIATES IN GOOD FAITH, THE PALESTINIANS RESPOND WITH
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UNFAITH AND VIOLENCE. BUT THIS LAND, HISTORICALLY, BELONGS TO
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ISRAEL. -NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WHAT'S YOUR SENSE? -IT'S
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A BIG STATEMENT COMING FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT. IT'S BEEN A
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LITTLE BIT OVERSHADOWED IN THE WEEK THAT IT CAME OUT BECAUSE OF
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THESE, THAT WAS DURING THE SECOND WEEK OF THE IMPEACHMENT
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HEARINGS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK LONG TERM THESE ARE THE
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BIG ISSUE MOMENTS. -BIG POLICY MOMENTS. -YEAH, THAT THE
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PRESIDENT IS GOING TO SPEAK TO ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL ABOUT
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DECISIONS HE'S MADE, THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE. BIG SHIFTS.
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I GUARANTEE YOU, BY THE WAY, THIS ONE, INSIDE THE STATE
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DEPARTMENT, I BET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WISH THEY WOULD HAVE
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WAITED TO TRY AND DO THEIR IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE I BET THESE
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STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS ARE GOING NUTS OVER THIS. -OH,
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YEAH. I'M SURE THEY ARE. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT TO THANN. SO,
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THANN, REACTION IN WASHINGTON. WE SAW BERNIE SANDERS, LET ME
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READ THAT AGAIN, NO GREAT SHOCK ON THAT ONE, ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS
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IN OCCUPIED TERRITORY ARE ILLEGAL. THIS IS CLEAR FROM
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INTERNATIONAL LAW AND MULTIPLE U.N. RESOLUTIONS. ONCE AGAIN MR.
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TRUMP IS ISOLATING THE U.S. AND UNDERMINING DIPLOMACY BY
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PANDERING TO HIS EXTREMIST BASE. BY THE WAY, EXTREMIST BASE, IT'S
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LIKE MOST PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT ISRAEL SUPPORT THIS. THANN
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BENNETT: YEAH, I MEAN, THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY, JAY, IS THOSE
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VOICES ARE NOT FRIENDS OF ISRAEL. SO, THEY MIGHT BE
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EMANATING OUT OF WASHINGTON D.C. BUT THEY'RE NOT VOICES WE SHOULD
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PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO ON THESE MATTERS OF POLICY. LOOK,
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BUT I WOULD JUST UNDERSCORE SOMETHING THAT HARRY TALKED
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ABOUT. THE VOICE OF THE UNITED STATES IN THESE ISSUES IN THE
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INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS SO SIGNIFICANT, JAY, AND IT
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SHOULDN'T BE LOST ON PEOPLE THE TIMING OF THE OBAMA
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ADMINISTRATION'S REVERSAL ON THIS. IT WAS IN DECEMBER OF 2016
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RIGHT AS THEY WERE LEAVING. THAT SEEMS TO BE A HABIT IN THIS
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AREA. JAY, THEY DID THE SAME THING AT THE UNITED NATIONS
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SECURITY COUNCIL. BASICALLY, WHAT IT LEFT WAS IT LEFT THE
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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WITH A LAUNDRY LIST OF ISSUES IN THE
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MIDDLE EAST THAT THEN HAD TO BE ROLLED BACK. SO, HERE WE ARE
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THREE YEARS INTO THE ADMINISTRATION AND YOU CAN GO
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DOWN THE LIST OF SIX OR EIGHT MAJOR POLICY ITEMS THAT HAVE HAD
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TO BE ROLLED BACK. I THINK JORDAN'S CORRECT, THAT IT MIGHT
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BE LOST IN THE NEWS CYCLE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE
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IS, JAY, THIS IS THE RIGHT POLICY TO MAKE. SO, OF COURSE,
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PUTTING IT OFF FOR POLITICAL REASONS WOULD NOT BE THE RIGHT
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THING TO DO. THE VOICE OF THE UNITED STATES, IN THIS REGION,
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IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. -YEAH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH ON
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THE NEXT SEGMENT OF THE BROADCAST THE THREE MAJOR THINGS
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THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON THE ISRAEL FRONT THAT HAVE HAPPENED
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IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THESE ARE VERY, VERY
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SIGNIFICANT.
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JAY SEKULOW: HEY, WECOME BACK TO THE BROADCAST EVERYONE.
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
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THAT GOT REALLY OVERLOOKED IN THE NEWS, AND THAT WAS THE ISSUE
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ON THE RECOGNITION THAT THE SO-CALLED SETTLEMENTS WERE, IN
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FACT, ISRAEL'S SOVEREIGN PROPERTY THAT WAS MADE BY THE
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TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. LET ME PLAY FOR YOU WHAT MIKE POMPEO
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SAID, THE SECRETARY OF STATE ANNOUNCING THIS. AGAIN, IT GOT
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OVERSHADOWED BY THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. BUT THIS IS A BIG
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DEVELOPMENT AND IT FOLLOWS TWO OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE VERY
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SIGNIFICANT ON THE ISRAEL FRONT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AS
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WELL. LET'S GO AHEAD AND PLAY WHAT MIKE POMPEO HAD TO SAY.
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-THE CONCLUSION THAT WE WILL NO LONGER RECOGNIZE ISRAELI
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SETTLEMENTS AS, PER SE, INCONSISTENT WITH INTERNATIONAL
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LAW IS BASED ON THE UNIQUE FACTS, HISTORY, AND
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CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED BY THE ESTABLISHING THE CIVILIAN
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SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST BANK. OUR DECISION TODAY DOES NOT
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PREJUDICE OR DECIDE LEGAL CONCLUSIONS REGARDING SITUATIONS
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IN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. -ALL RIGHT, SO, THAT'S AN
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INTERESTING STATEMENT BECAUSE IT LEAVES OPEN THE NEGOTIATION
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ISSUE. BUT LET ME GO TO WHAT'S HAPPENED. FIRST, IT WAS THE
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PRESIDENT RECOGNIZING THAT JERUSALEM WAS, IN FACT, THE
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INTERNAL CAPITAL OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL-MAJOR
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ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE JERUSALEM DECLARATION-TOOK PLACE IN 2018.
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2019 THIS YEAR EARLIER IN THE YEAR AROUND THE END OF APRIL,
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WHAT HAPPENS? BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS OVER IN THE UNITED STATES.
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GOLAN HEIGHTS DECLARATION RECOGNIZING THAT THE GOLAN
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HEIGHTS ARE NOW PART OF ISRAEL'S SOVEREIGNTY. AND SKIP, LET'S
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TALK ABOUT THAT. STRATEGICALLY, THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
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OF THE ROLE THE GOLAN PLAYS. SKIP ASH: ABSOLUTELY! THE STATE
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OF SYRIA ATTACKED ISRAEL THREE TIMES FROM THERE IN THE WAR FOR
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INDEPENDENCE, IN 1967, AND IN 1973. AT THAT POINT, IN ISRAEL,
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THE STATE OF ISRAEL IS ABOUT SIX MILES WIDE BETWEEN THE GOLAN
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HEIGHTS AND LEBANON, IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT THE
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ISRAELIS CONTROL THAT. THERE IS A RULE IN INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT
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YOU CANNOT GAIN TERRITORY THROUGH AGGRESSIVE WAR. ISRAEL
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DIDN'T GAIN THIS TERRITORY THROUGH AGGRESSIVE WAR. THEY
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GAINED THIS TERRITORY IN A DEFENSIVE WAR TO STOP THE
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AGGRESSION OF SYRIA. AND SYRIA, NOW, IS PAYING A PRICE FOR ITS
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AGGRESSION BY LOSING ITS TERRITORY. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY
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THE RIGHT DECISION ON THE PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT. AND IT'S
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ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE DEFENSE OF ISRAEL. -WES, SEEMS
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TO ME THAT THERE'S A CONSISTENT TRUMP DOCTRINE HERE THAT'S
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DEVELOPING WITH REGARD TO ISRAEL. YOU SEE IT IN THE
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JERUSALEM DECLARATION WITH THE MOVE TO RECOGNIZING THE CAPITAL
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AS JERUSALEM. YOU SEE IT WITH THE GOLAN DECLARATION. YOU NOW
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SEE IT WITH THE SETTLEMENT ISSUE. WESLEY SMITH: YEAH, AND
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MOVING OUR EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM, WHICH WAS A BIG DEAL. PRESIDENTS
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HAVE PROMISED THAT FOR MULTIPLE ADMINISTRATION'S -THE LAW HAS
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BEEN ON THE BOOK FOR 20 YEARS BUT NEVER ENFORCED. -YEAH, BUT
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WOULD NOT DO IT. YOU KNOW, SKIP'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THE GOLAN
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HEIGHTS ARE SO STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT TO ISRAEL. ROUTINELY,
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OVER THE YEARS, ISRAEL'S ENEMIES HAVE USED THE GOLAN HEIGHTS TO
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SHELL CIVILIANS FROM THAT REGION., AND SO, ISRAEL'S
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SECURITY IS AT STAKE. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE ON THIS BROADCAST,
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ISRAEL IS NEVER THE AGGRESSOR IN ANY WAR THEY'VE HAD TO FIGHT.
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THEY HAVE FOUGHT FOR THEIR SURVIVAL. AND PART OF THE
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PALESTINIAN MAKE UP IN THAT AREA OF THE WORLD, INCLUDES PEOPLE
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WHO DO NOT WANT PEACE WITH ISRAEL, JAY. THEY WANT THE
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DESTRUCTION, THE ANNIHILATION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, GROUPS LIKE
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HAMAS AND THE PALESTINIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD. AND SO, THEY FACE
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ENEMIES EVERY DAY AND THEIR EXISTENCE IS AT STAKE. AND I
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APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. -I WANT TO
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PLAY THE REPORTER QUESTION TO MIKE POMPEO ABOUT THIS AND GET
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EVERYBODY'S REACTION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. LISTEN TO NUMBER
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28. -I'M WONDERING IF YOU ARE AT ALL CONCERNED THAT THIS
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POSITION, THIS REVERSAL OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION'S
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POSITION, IS GOING TO INCREASE THE ISOLATION OF THE U.S.,
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PARTICULARLY, IN THE U.N. AND AROUND THE WORLD. BECAUSE PRETTY
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MUCH EVERYONE ELSE HAS HELD THE POSITION THAT, IF NOT ILLEGAL,
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THEY ARE, AT LEAST, INCONSISTENT WITH INTERNATIONAL LAW. -WELL,
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I MUST SAY, SADLY, THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL IN
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THE YEARS LEADING UP TO THIS. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE MORE
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ISOLATION, UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE U.N. AS A RESULT OF THIS
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DECISION. -SO I THINK THAT CAPSULIZED EXACTLY WHAT THE
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PROBLEM IS. THE U.N. HAS A HISTORY, JORDAN, OF ANTI-ISRAEL
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ANIMUS. JORDAN SEKULWO: HISTORY, YES. I MEAN, THE NUMBER ONE
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COUNTRY CONDEMNED BY THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS THE JEWISH
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STATE OF ISRAEL. SO, IT IS ISRAEL THAT IS NUMBER ONE. IT'S
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NOT ANY DICTATORSHIPS OR IT'S NOT THE ASSAD REGIME IN SYRIA.
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IT WASN'T SADDAM HUSSEIN'S IRAQ. IT IS ISRAEL THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
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THE MOST CONDEMNED NATION IN THE WORLD BY THE UNITED NATIONS IS
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THE STATE OF ISRAEL. -ALL RIGHT NOW, THANN, FROM YOUR
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PERSPECTIVE IN DEALING WITH THE U.N., THE FACT THAT THE
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PRESIDENT MADE THIS MOVE ALSO WAS SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY NOW.
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IT'S NOT GONNA BE POPULAR IN THE U.N., NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, BUT
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IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE FOR OUR ALLY. THANN BENNETT: THE FACT
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THAT IT'S NOT POPULAR AT THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE FACT THAT
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IT ISOLATES US FROM THOSE IN THE UNITED NATIONS IS A BADGE OF
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HONOR ON THIS ISSUE. NOT A PROBLEM, JAY. LOOK, JORDAN'S
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CORRECT. THERE HAVE BEEN MORE CENSURES OUT OF THE UNITED
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NATIONS AGAINST THE STATE OF ISRAEL THAN, GET THIS, ALL OF
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THE OTHER NATIONS OF THE WORLD COMBINED. IT'S NOT IRAN. IT'S
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NOT SYRIA. IT'S NOT CUBA. IT'S NOT ANY OF THE LISTS OF OTHERS.
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IT'S THE STATE OF ISRAEL. AND JAY, I WOULD, ACTUALLY, ADD THE
00:19:16.150 --> 00:19:20.050
UNITED NATIONS TO YOUR LIST OF THREE MAJOR MOVES THAT THIS
00:19:20.060 --> 00:19:22.200
ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE ON ISRAEL, BECAUSE WHEN ANYTHING
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THAT THE UNITED NATION DOES THAT HAS ANY SORT OF TEETH OR
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ENFORCEMENT IN IT IS PASSED, IT ULTIMATELY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:31.240
UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL TO BE APPROVED. AND THE UNITED
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STATES HAS VETO POWER ON THAT COUNCIL. AT THE END OF THE OBAMA
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ADMINISTRATION, AS YOU KNOW, JAY, THE UNITED STATES DECIDED
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TO STOP USING THAT VETO POWER AND REFUSED TO STAND BY ITS ALLY
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ISRAEL. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, JAY, HAS
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REINSTATED THAT VETO. SO, THE UNITED NATIONS, IN MY VIEW, IS
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JUST AS SIGNIFICANT AS THOSE THREE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED. IT'S
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MAYBE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INTERNATIONAL PLACE WHERE THE
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UNITED STATES IS ONCE AGAIN STANDING BY ITS ALLIES. -SKIP,
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HOW DO YOU SEE THIS LINING UP AS IT RELATES TO RESOLUTIONS OF A
00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.090
PEACE PROCESS? OF COURSE, THE PEACE PROCESS IS IN PRETTY BAD
00:20:04.100 --> 00:20:06.170
SHAPE RIGHT NOW. -WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE
00:20:06.180 --> 00:20:10.070
PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN GIVEN MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET 95
00:20:10.080 --> 00:20:14.080
UP TO 98 PERCENT OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR AND THEY DECLINED TO
00:20:14.090 --> 00:20:19.290
ACCEPT THAT DEAL. SO, AS SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER, THEY
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DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE YES FOR AN ANSWER. SO, I THINK WHAT
00:20:23.030 --> 00:20:26.180
WE'RE DOING NOW IS SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO SIT ON YOUR HANDS
00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.060
AND YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PANDER TO YOU
00:20:29.070 --> 00:20:32.080
ANYMORE. IF YOU WANT TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT MAKING THE
00:20:32.090 --> 00:20:35.100
COMPROMISES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO GET YOUR STATE, THEN THE
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ISRAELIS ARE READY TO LISTEN. AND WE'RE, AS THE UNITED STATES,
00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:41.210
ARE READY TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY GAMES,
00:20:41.220 --> 00:20:44.040
WE'RE TIRED OF PLAYING GAMES, WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT THIS
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HISTORICAL ANOMALY THAT AFFLICTS ONLY ISRAEL, AND YOU CAN SIT
00:20:46.180 --> 00:20:51.120
THERE AND COMPLAIN TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. IF YOU WANT TO
00:20:51.130 --> 00:20:53.240
DEAL, THE ISRAELIS ARE READY. WE'RE READY, IF YOU DON'T WANT
00:20:53.250 --> 00:20:56.220
TO DEAL, THAT'S FINE, TOO. -CAMBRIA IS CALLING FROM UTAH
00:20:56.230 --> 00:20:59.220
ON LINE ONE. CAMBRIA, WELCOME TO JAY SEKULOW LIVE. YOU'RE ON THE
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AIR. -HI, CAMBRIA. -HI, THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. -SURE. -A
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QUESTION AND THEN, WELL, ACTUALLY, A COMMENT. FIRST, I
00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:09.270
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR BOOK ON ISRAEL. -GREAT! -AND
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ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO READ IT BECAUSE IT HIGHLIGHTS, SO
00:21:12.270 --> 00:21:16.190
ELOQUENTLY, THE RIGHT FOR ISRAEL TO THEIR LAND. AND I THINK
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THAT'S FUNDAMENTAL FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE
00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:24.010
CONVERSATION. THE QUESTION IS REGARDING THE ICC'S. -YES? -IS
00:21:24.020 --> 00:21:28.290
THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR ALLIES TO PULL
00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.260
AWAY FROM THE ICC, THEREFORE, TAKING THE LEVERAGE OUT? -WELL,
00:21:32.270 --> 00:21:36.220
LOOK, TWO THIRDS, IT'S AN INTERESTING ASPECT, SKIP. THIS
00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:39.060
IS SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR ICC ARGUMENT, AND THAT IS
00:21:39.070 --> 00:21:42.110
WHILE TWO-THIRDS OF THE WORLD'S COUNTRIES ARE MEMBERS, IT ONLY
00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:45.020
REPRESENTS ONE-THIRD OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION. SKIP ASH:
00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:48.140
OH, THAT'S IT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IN THIS SENSE, WE ARE
00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:51.290
EQUATING LICHTENSTEIN AND SAN MARINO AND LUXEMBOURG AND THOSE
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:57.050
LITTLE NATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA AND INDIA AND
00:21:57.060 --> 00:22:01.030
THE UNITED STATES, THESE HUGE POPULATION AREAS. THE PROBLEM IS
00:22:01.040 --> 00:22:04.200
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE IT'S POLITICALLY CORRECT
00:22:04.210 --> 00:22:07.110
TO BE THERE, AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES
00:22:07.120 --> 00:22:10.010
OUT OF THERE. -THAT DOES IT FOR THE BROADCAST. THANK YOU FOR
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YOUR SUPPORT OF TBN. THAT KEEPS OUR BROADCAST ON THE AIR EACH
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AND EVERY WEEK.
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