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Eric Swalwell & The Chinese Spy

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  • - This is Jay Sekulowexclusive analysis.
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  • Congressman Eric Swalwelland a Communist China spy.
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  • Well, how do you start this one
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  • without saying I havepersonal experience with this,
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  • which I do?
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  • Because Eric Swalwell wasone of the lead protagonists
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  • of the attemptedimpeachment of Donald Trump
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  • as president ofthe United States,
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  • which, of course,resulted in an acquittal.
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  • But he's now himselfcaught up in a scandal
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  • involving a Chineseagent, apparently.
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  • Not only ties tothe Communist Party,
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  • but actually workedfor the Communist Party
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  • and in theirintelligence department.
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  • This is the guy, and I wantto play the first bite, Will,
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  • just to show what this,what Eric Swalwell,
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  • the Congressman, who wasnasty during this process,
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  • I mean, he was one ofthe most obnoxious,
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  • and let's play the mostpoignant bite about
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  • what Eric Swalwellaccuses the president
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  • of the United States of.
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  • - [Eric] Stated plainly,the president's son met
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  • with a Russian spy.
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  • We now have the bestevidence of that
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  • in our minority reportthe democrats put out,
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  • that Natalia Veselnitskaya,was going all over the world.
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  • Now we know that she wasworking at the behest
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  • of the Russian government.
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  • The president's son, Nicole,met with a Russian spy.
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  • - "The president's son, Nicole,"that was Nicole Wallace,
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  • "met with a Russianspy," met with.
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  • Eric Swalwell, I'm notgonna get into the details
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  • of the relationship,didn't just meet once
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  • with a Russian agent,or a Chinese agent,
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  • but had an ongoing relationship,long-term, friends,
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  • whatever, I'm not gonna getinto the other, fundraiser.
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  • She was a collegestudent but was a bundler
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  • for his campaigns.
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  • Now, Thann, our Directorof Government Affairs
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  • in Washington, Swalwellwas very difficult
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  • on a whole host ofissues, not the least of
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  • which was the impeachment.
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  • But you worked in acongressional office,
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  • how often did youhave, let's say,
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  • college students operating asbundlers for your campaign?
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  • - Yeah, never, Jay,the answer is never.
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  • And look, the hypocrisyknows no bounds here.
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  • You talked about thisknown Chinese agent
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  • now fundraisingfor Eric Swalwell.
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  • Also, it looks like she placedan intern inside his office.
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  • And you know, Jay,just to tell you
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  • how sweeping itappears this has been,
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  • when they had to step inand do a defensive briefing
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  • to Congressman Swalwell, he says
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  • that Chairman Schiffand Speaker Pelosi
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  • knew about it at that time.
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  • Now look, maybe he's notremoved from the House
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  • at that point, butJay, at that point,
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  • that is when Eric Swalwellshould have been removed
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  • from the HouseIntelligence Committee.
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  • But what did democratleadership do, Jay?
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  • They left him on that committee
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  • and left him with accessto sensitive intelligence,
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  • sensitive information, andthey left him there, Jay,
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  • throughout the entireimpeachment proceeding,
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  • when the accusationsthat he leveled
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  • were exactly what hewas found to be doing.
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  • - I will tell you what hewas doing at that exact time,
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  • he was impeaching thepresident of the United States.
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  • And using as an example, Wes,
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  • that Donald Trump,Jr. had a meeting
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  • with a person who they didnot know was a Russian agent,
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  • and it was a meeting thatlasted I think 15 minutes.
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  • - Yeah, and Thann's right.
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  • Hypocrisy in thiscase knows no bounds
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  • He accused Don, Jr. ofmeeting with a Russian agent.
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  • Some of the allegations are
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  • that he had a long-termrelationship anyway,
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  • and she worked for theMinistry of State Security,
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  • which is a civilian spy agency
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  • for the Chinese Communist Party.
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  • - That is the partthat to me is the irony
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  • of ironies in all of this.
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  • We're getting to the bottomof this, and we'll tell you
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  • what legal actionthe American Center
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  • for Law and Justiceis gonna take,
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  • including the beginningof a FOIA request.
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  • I'm holding a draftof it in my hand.
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  • We don't just talk aboutthe issues on this show,
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  • we actually deal with them.
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  • Back with more in a moment.
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  • - All right, so thesuspected foreign agent
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  • is named Christine Fang,who also went by Fang Fang.
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  • Targeted a lot oflocal politicians
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  • in the San Francisco Bay area,
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  • including CongressmanEric Swalwell.
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  • And Wes Smith wasjust telling me,
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  • this was person posedas a, this agent,
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  • posed as a collegestudent, yet was,
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  • as Thann just said,placing an intern
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  • in Eric Swalwell's office.
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  • - Right, and she wasinvolved not only
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  • with politicians in California,
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  • mainly the San Franciscoarea, she was also involved
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  • with at least twomayors in the Midwest.
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  • She was quite active in tryingto get close to politicians,
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  • especially those whohad the potential
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  • for national prominence,Swalwell was one of those.
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  • And, of course, wasinvolved with him
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  • even after he waselected to Congress.
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  • And apparently, andI did not know this
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  • until I startedreading the reports,
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  • but apparently shewas pretty good
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  • at getting Chinesenationals placed as interns
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  • in various government offices.
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  • That is crazy.
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  • When do we start puttingChinese nationals
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  • in governmentoffices as an intern?
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  • - Hey, Ric Grenellis joining us.
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  • Of course, our special advisoron these kind of issues,
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  • including national intelligence.
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  • Ric served as theActing Director
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  • of National Intelligence, DNI.
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  • Ric, this is, this guywas the chief protagonist
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  • of the president duringthe, one of the chief ones,
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  • during the impeachment hoax.
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  • And now we've gothim in the middle
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  • of this China situation.
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  • What's your sense ofthis as you look at it?
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  • - Look, I actually amreally concerned because
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  • for years Eric Swalwell hasreally taken the Beijing line
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  • and pushed it publicly.
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  • And the Beijing line hasalways been don't fear China,
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  • be more open tous, engage with us.
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  • And look over there becausethe bigger problem is Russia.
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  • And the number person pushing
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  • that Chinese linewas Eric Swalwell.
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  • And I think you couldalso argue Adam Schiff.
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  • But the problemthat we've now seen
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  • over the last severalyears with Chinese spies
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  • infiltrating politicians is,the theme is San Francisco.
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  • It happened to Diane Feinstein.
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  • It's happened nowto Eric Swalwell,
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  • who's in the SanFrancisco Bay area.
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  • We also know that Nancy Pelosireally downplayed COVID-19
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  • in the very beginning and toldpeople to go to Chinatown.
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  • She went herself.
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  • She has also pushed theRussia, Russia, Russia line.
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  • Look, let's be very clear.
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  • Russia is a problemfor the United States,
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  • but China is a crisis,and anyone who tries
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  • to pretend that Chinaisn't an unfolding crisis
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  • is really playingto the Beijing line.
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  • And we've got toget to the bottom of
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  • why these peopleare pushing so hard
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  • to push the communistChinese line.
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  • - One of the things, Andy,I was thinking about is
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  • the fact that, and it'skind of following up
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  • what Ric said, isthat the congressmen
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  • became their primary,well, not the only,
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  • but certainly a boosterof the China relationship.
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  • - Well, yeah, that wasexactly what the purpose
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  • of Fang Fang was indoing what she did.
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  • She became a head oftwo student groups
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  • at California State University.
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  • Then she used herposition to gain access
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  • to political events andfundraisers, including Swalwell.
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  • - Yeah, but Ric, I'mtrying for the life of me
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  • to figure out no oneuntil later on recognized
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  • that this collegestudent was a bundler.
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  • And for those ofyou that don't know,
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  • a bundler is someone thatworks with a variety of donors,
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  • puts money togetherfor candidates.
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  • How did they not figure outhow this college student
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  • at one of the Universityof California campuses
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  • in San Franciscowas able to do this?
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  • - Well, first of all, let'sbe honest about the problems
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  • that we have, which isnot just the problem
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  • of communist Chineseinfiltrating inpolitics, but academia.
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  • It's a really big problem.
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  • So I think theanswer is it's easy
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  • when you have the combinationof academia, politicians,
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  • money, and San Francisco.
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  • This is the problem ofthe Chinese consulate
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  • in San Francisco, itis a bastion of spies.
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  • And let's just bereally honest about it.
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  • And we also need to beclear that Eric Swalwell is
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  • only the tip of the iceberg.
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  • The Chinese havedecided as a strategy
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  • to go after not only academiain the United States,
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  • but our politicians at thelocal level, at the state level.
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  • We're talking about governors,
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  • we're talking aboutlocal politicians,
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  • and we're talking aboutmembers of Congress.
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  • This has been goingon for a long time.
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  • And it got worse duringthe COVID-19 crisis
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  • when we realized that wewere beholden to Chinese PPE.
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  • The supply chain that weover the last 10 years
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  • have given up to China camehome and became a huge problem
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  • when we suddenly needed a wholebunch of PPE for COVID-19.
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  • And China was leveragingtheir collection of it
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  • over politicians whowould criticize them.
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  • - Let me ask you this.
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  • We've got, our officein Washington isworking on right now,
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  • I'm actually holding adraft of it in my hand,
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  • a Freedom of Information ActRequest to your old office,
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  • Director of InformationManagement Division,
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  • Office of the Directorof National Intelligence
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  • to get documentsrelated to this.
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  • But I want to focus onsomething you just said,
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  • because I think it's importantfor people to say this.
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  • This is an example, thisis just an example of
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  • what the Chinese are up to.
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  • We've had the wholething in the Houston,
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  • their consulate there,we've had, as you said,
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  • San Francisco you calleda bastion of spying.
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  • But let me take itone step further.
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  • Eric Swalwell served and serves
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  • on the Intelligence Committee.
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  • I mean, he's currentlyon those committees.
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  • Of course, he ran forpresident of the United States
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  • and he wrote a bookcalled, "End Game,
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  • inside the impeachmentof Donald Trump,"
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  • which is interestingsince one of the pieces
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  • of evidence they usedwas a 15-minute meeting
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  • at Trump Tower with thesupposed Russian agent,
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  • and who may well have beena Russian agent, who knows.
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  • Yet, you would probably know,
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  • and your officewould have known.
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  • But that was a15-minute meeting.
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  • This was a multi-yearrelationship, Ric.
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  • - Look, Eric Swalwellhas had access
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  • to incredibly sensitiveclassified information
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  • through theIntelligence Committee,
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  • and for him to downplay theChina threat so consistently
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  • by overplaying the Russia threatis a real serious problem.
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  • And while transparencyis really important,
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  • I'm very sensitive to the fact
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  • that there isclassified information
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  • that we have to besensitive about,
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  • but that doesn't stop theSenate Intel Committee
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  • or the House Intel Committee
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  • from having aclassified briefing
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  • behind closed doorsaway from the public.
  • 00:11:33.669 --> 00:11:35.771
  • But let's let the IntelligenceCommittee look at all
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  • of this information involvingEric Swalwell and others
  • 00:11:39.775 --> 00:11:43.779
  • and look at theevidence of what kind
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  • of a crisis we're in with China.
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  • This needs to be done.
  • 00:11:49.752 --> 00:11:51.220
  • Lastly, I'll just say thisconcept of the Gang of Eight,
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  • which is the leadershipof the Intel Committees
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  • and then the leadershipof both the House
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  • and the Senatepolitical parties,
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  • this Gang of Eight, I think,needs to be done away with.
  • 00:12:03.732 --> 00:12:08.070
  • It's not working.
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  • We need to have briefingsfor all members of Congress,
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  • all senators, notjust a select few
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  • that seem to beholding the information
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  • and doing nothing with it.
  • 00:12:18.848 --> 00:12:20.216
  • So I've been talkingto a number of senators
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  • over the last monthswhen I was at DNI.
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  • And there's a clear concernabout the Gang of Eight
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  • and what they do whenthey get these briefings.
  • 00:12:33.095 --> 00:12:35.264
  • They're holding it tooclose to their chest.
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  • I think that we need to goto the Intelligence Committee
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  • members themselves,brief all of them.
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  • Marco Rubio, who's the actingintel Senate committee chair,
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  • he should hold aclassified briefing.
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  • And Adam Schiffon the House side
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  • should hold a full committeeclassified briefing
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  • away from the press,away from the public,
  • 00:12:54.817 --> 00:12:57.553
  • and dig deep into allof this information
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  • to make sure we haveother eyes on it.
  • 00:12:59.722 --> 00:13:02.491
  • - Yeah, Mario Rubio said,if named as chairman
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  • of the Senate SelectCommittee on Intelligence,
  • 00:13:06.128 --> 00:13:07.897
  • he plans to hold publichearings on this agent
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  • and Chinese espionage as soonas possible in the new year.
  • 00:13:14.336 --> 00:13:17.039
  • Jim Sensenbrennerhas also filed,
  • 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.876
  • wants to open upan investigation
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  • regarding the ethicalissues around this.
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  • Should Eric Swalwell stayon these committees, Ric?
  • 00:13:24.413 --> 00:13:27.850
  • - I don't thinkthat he should stay
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  • on the House Intel Committee.
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  • He should beimmediately removed.
  • 00:13:32.555 --> 00:13:33.856
  • But I also wouldn't waitfor public hearings.
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  • I think that that thecommittees should go
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  • into classified settingsimmediately themselves
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  • and get this briefing,because the reality is
  • 00:13:41.497 --> 00:13:43.465
  • this is not justabout Eric Swalwell.
  • 00:13:43.465 --> 00:13:45.901
  • - All right, thankyou very much.
  • 00:13:45.901 --> 00:13:47.069
  • Ric Grenell, ofcourse, Senior Advisor
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  • to the American Centerfor Law and Justice
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  • on issues likenational security,
  • 00:13:50.506 --> 00:13:52.007
  • and former acting DNI andambassador to Germany.
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  • Ric, thanks for being with us.
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  • Really quickly here, I wantto go to Thann on this.
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  • I go back, becausethis is obviously,
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  • and we'll talk more about this,
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  • when we come back,I'm gonna get into
  • 00:14:01.517 --> 00:14:02.451
  • what we're gonna do, but Thann,
  • 00:14:02.451 --> 00:14:04.053
  • I'm thinking about Wessaid, what Ric said,
  • 00:14:04.053 --> 00:14:06.488
  • Andy has said some ofit as well, and that is
  • 00:14:06.488 --> 00:14:07.890
  • this idea of internsin the office
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  • that are affiliated withthe Chinese government.
  • 00:14:10.359 --> 00:14:14.430
  • - It's just crazy,Jay, and to think
  • 00:14:14.430 --> 00:14:15.831
  • that Speaker Pelosi andChairman Schiff knew about that
  • 00:14:15.831 --> 00:14:18.067
  • and did nothing about it.
  • 00:14:18.067 --> 00:14:19.001
  • It is almost unthinkable, Jay.
  • 00:14:19.001 --> 00:14:20.803
  • I would just tellyou this, though.
  • 00:14:20.803 --> 00:14:22.238
  • Ric is so correct about gettingrid of the Gang of Eight.
  • 00:14:22.238 --> 00:14:25.841
  • And here's just one example why.
  • 00:14:25.841 --> 00:14:27.543
  • You know who the twoindividuals were involved
  • 00:14:27.543 --> 00:14:29.745
  • with making sure that thatSwalwell kept his seat
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  • on the committee?
  • 00:14:32.548 --> 00:14:33.782
  • Speaker Pelosi andChairman Schiff.
  • 00:14:33.782 --> 00:14:35.784
  • What do they have in common?
  • 00:14:35.784 --> 00:14:37.019
  • Two things, Jay, they'reboth from California,
  • 00:14:37.019 --> 00:14:38.654
  • so they both mighthave a connection here.
  • 00:14:38.654 --> 00:14:40.356
  • And they are both a partof the Gang of Eight.
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  • Jay, it's time toexpand that out.
  • 00:14:43.425 --> 00:14:45.127
  • - We've got a draftalready of a Freedom
  • 00:14:45.127 --> 00:14:47.463
  • of Information Act Request,
  • 00:14:47.463 --> 00:14:48.597
  • our GovernmentAccountability Project
  • 00:14:48.597 --> 00:14:50.032
  • at the American Centerfor Law and Justice
  • 00:14:50.032 --> 00:14:52.001
  • is going to be working on that,
  • 00:14:52.001 --> 00:14:53.335
  • is working on that right now.
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  • Back with more in a moment.
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  • - Let me tell you whatwe're doing on this,
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  • because I think it'simportant for you to know,
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  • and that is ourgovernment affairs team
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  • has gone into action already.
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  • Now, before we getinto the specifics,
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  • Colonel Smith, howserious is this situation?
  • 00:15:44.244 --> 00:15:48.147
  • - It's very serious.
  • 00:15:48.147 --> 00:15:49.382
  • As a member of theIntel Committee,
  • 00:15:49.382 --> 00:15:50.950
  • he is privy to someof the nation's
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  • most sensitive top secrets.
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  • Something that theaverage Congressman
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  • does not haveaccess to, he does.
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  • And so I have a number ofquestions about this, as do you,
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  • but I wonder how muchinformation did he share
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  • with Fang Fang, eitheradvertently or inadvertently,
  • 00:16:06.466 --> 00:16:09.068
  • that impacts national security?
  • 00:16:10.069 --> 00:16:12.105
  • The FBI says that thereare, at any given time,
  • 00:16:12.105 --> 00:16:14.907
  • there are about 5.000counterintelligenceinvestigations
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  • going on in the United States.
  • 00:16:18.111 --> 00:16:19.779
  • Over half of themare somehow connected
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  • to the Chinese Communist Party.
  • 00:16:22.515 --> 00:16:24.517
  • And so I have questionsabout what he shared,
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  • even if he didn't meanto, and the impacts
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  • of this on national security.
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  • And Nancy Pelosi, asrecently as yesterday,
  • 00:16:31.024 --> 00:16:34.260
  • is still standingbehind his position
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  • on the Intel Committeewhere he has access
  • 00:16:36.529 --> 00:16:39.098
  • to so many government secretsfor the United States.
  • 00:16:39.098 --> 00:16:41.467
  • - You know, I didn'tpoint this out,
  • 00:16:41.467 --> 00:16:43.303
  • but Swalwell has some, reallyhe's made nasty statements
  • 00:16:43.303 --> 00:16:46.873
  • about yours truly, he'smade nasty statements
  • 00:16:46.873 --> 00:16:50.009
  • about our senior advisoron national intelligence,
  • 00:16:50.009 --> 00:16:54.280
  • Ric Grenell, and now he'sthe one caught up in this.
  • 00:16:54.280 --> 00:16:56.582
  • Let me play a littleflashback here for you
  • 00:16:56.582 --> 00:16:59.552
  • with Eric Swalwelland Russiagate.
  • 00:16:59.552 --> 00:17:02.555
  • - [Eric] The questionhas shifted from
  • 00:17:02.555 --> 00:17:04.624
  • whether the president isworking with the Russians to
  • 00:17:04.624 --> 00:17:06.959
  • what evidence exists thatthe president is not working
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  • with the Russians.
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  • He's betrayed our country,and I don't say that lightly.
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  • I worked as a prosecutorfor seven years and I-
  • 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:15.968
  • - [Woman] But betrayingthe country, by the way,
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  • we want evidencebefore you say that,
  • 00:17:17.503 --> 00:17:19.472
  • but you said an agent of Russia.
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  • - [Eric] Yeah, heworks on their behalf.
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  • - [Woman] Do you still believe
  • 00:17:23.343 --> 00:17:24.610
  • that the presidentis a Russian agent?
  • 00:17:24.610 --> 00:17:25.912
  • - [Eric] I think heacts on Russia's behalf
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  • and he puts Russia'sinterests ahead too often
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  • of America's interest.
  • 00:17:31.918 --> 00:17:33.119
  • - [Man] You're a memberof the judiciary.
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  • Do you believe thepresident right now
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  • has been an agentof the Russians?
  • 00:17:35.655 --> 00:17:37.156
  • - [Eric] Yes, I thinkthere's more evidence--
  • 00:17:37.156 --> 00:17:39.225
  • - [Man] Agent.- [Eric] Yes.
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  • And I think all the arrowspoint in that direction.
  • 00:17:40.760 --> 00:17:42.261
  • I haven't seen a single pieceof evidence that he's not.
  • 00:17:42.261 --> 00:17:44.597
  • - Okay, so I'm gonnago to Andy Ekonomou,
  • 00:17:44.597 --> 00:17:46.265
  • because this is theformer, Swalwell says
  • 00:17:46.265 --> 00:17:48.368
  • he's a former prosecutor, andhe's decided the president
  • 00:17:48.368 --> 00:17:51.003
  • was a Russian agent,except only problem is
  • 00:17:51.003 --> 00:17:53.039
  • Robert Muller couldn'tconclude that.
  • 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:54.307
  • In fact, Robert Mullercouldn't even conclude
  • 00:17:54.307 --> 00:17:56.042
  • that the campaign did anythingwith the Russian government,
  • 00:17:56.042 --> 00:17:58.578
  • had any relations withthe Russian government.
  • 00:17:58.578 --> 00:18:01.314
  • But put that on the side, hewas completely proved wrong.
  • 00:18:01.314 --> 00:18:04.016
  • And the president, ofcourse, was acquitted.
  • 00:18:04.016 --> 00:18:05.485
  • Swalwell was one of thelead. though, folks involved
  • 00:18:05.485 --> 00:18:08.654
  • in trying to goafter the president.
  • 00:18:08.654 --> 00:18:10.590
  • But you listen to what hesaid, he's a Russian agent.
  • 00:18:10.590 --> 00:18:13.626
  • The president withcohorting with Russia,
  • 00:18:13.626 --> 00:18:16.662
  • was advocating their position.
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  • I'm going to play some,we're gonna get some
  • 00:18:18.498 --> 00:18:19.999
  • of the audio of what Swalwellsaid about the Chinese,
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  • how our relationship should,
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  • and you heard itfrom Ric Grenell.
  • 00:18:24.003 --> 00:18:25.171
  • But isn't this ironic?
  • 00:18:25.171 --> 00:18:26.839
  • - Yes, a hit dog barks,as we say in Georgia.
  • 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:31.010
  • Here's a person who has doneand made all these statements
  • 00:18:31.010 --> 00:18:35.381
  • and contentions and allegationsagainst the president
  • 00:18:35.381 --> 00:18:38.484
  • being a Russian agent,and the irony of it all is
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  • that he had workingin his office
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  • and had a relationship,we don't know what it was,
  • 00:18:44.157 --> 00:18:46.793
  • but we're gonna findout what it was,
  • 00:18:46.793 --> 00:18:48.995
  • a former prosecutormaking allegations
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  • about the presidentof the United States,
  • 00:18:51.531 --> 00:18:53.766
  • who he himself had aChinese spy in his office
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  • working to get him internsto raise money for him
  • 00:18:57.737 --> 00:19:00.673
  • and to do all the things thatyou would expect somebody
  • 00:19:00.673 --> 00:19:03.743
  • who was intimate with him to do.
  • 00:19:03.743 --> 00:19:07.079
  • And he was on the IntelligenceCommittee of the House,
  • 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.482
  • receiving briefingson things that pertain
  • 00:19:09.482 --> 00:19:12.051
  • to national security matters
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  • that the averageCongressman didn't get.
  • 00:19:14.187 --> 00:19:16.422
  • CongressmanSensenbrenner has said,
  • 00:19:16.422 --> 00:19:19.258
  • "I want an immediateopen investigation
  • 00:19:19.258 --> 00:19:21.994
  • into allegations that suspectedChinese spy Christine Fang,"
  • 00:19:21.994 --> 00:19:26.599
  • Fang Fang,"compromised Swalwell."
  • 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.368
  • And Marco Rubio has saidthat if he becomes chairman
  • 00:19:29.368 --> 00:19:32.405
  • of the Select Committee, he'sgonna ask for those hearings.
  • 00:19:32.405 --> 00:19:35.107
  • You need to, we needto get into evidence.
  • 00:19:35.107 --> 00:19:37.343
  • He prides himself, Swalwelldoes, on being a prosecutor
  • 00:19:37.343 --> 00:19:40.847
  • and basing everythingthat he says on evidence.
  • 00:19:40.847 --> 00:19:43.449
  • Well, let's just seewhat the evidence unfolds
  • 00:19:43.449 --> 00:19:45.818
  • with respect to hisallegations or his relationship
  • 00:19:45.818 --> 00:19:48.988
  • with this Chinese spy.
  • 00:19:48.988 --> 00:19:51.090
  • - Yeah, well, let me tellyou something about evidence.
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  • We're gonna getsome, and that's why
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  • the American Center for Lawand Justice, our office,
  • 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:55.761
  • our GovernmentAccountability Project
  • 00:19:55.761 --> 00:19:57.597
  • has already gone into work.
  • 00:19:57.597 --> 00:19:59.298
  • Ben Sisney and our teamhave already drafted,
  • 00:19:59.298 --> 00:20:01.701
  • they've done thefirst draft, Andy,
  • 00:20:01.701 --> 00:20:03.169
  • and our team will bereviewing it this afternoon,
  • 00:20:03.169 --> 00:20:05.638
  • of a Freedom ofInformation Act Request
  • 00:20:05.638 --> 00:20:07.974
  • that's gonna go to RicGrenell's former office,
  • 00:20:07.974 --> 00:20:09.842
  • the Office of Directorof National Intelligence.
  • 00:20:09.842 --> 00:20:11.911
  • One of the requests is forall records, communications,
  • 00:20:11.911 --> 00:20:14.514
  • briefings created, generated,forwarded, transmitted,
  • 00:20:14.514 --> 00:20:17.550
  • sent, shared, saved,received, or reviewed
  • 00:20:17.550 --> 00:20:19.919
  • by either former Directorof National Intelligence,
  • 00:20:19.919 --> 00:20:22.321
  • here we go, James Clapper,or Stephanie O'Sullivan
  • 00:20:22.321 --> 00:20:26.425
  • referencing, connectingto, or regarding
  • 00:20:26.425 --> 00:20:28.261
  • in any way Christine Fang,or Fang Fang, or Fang,
  • 00:20:28.261 --> 00:20:32.298
  • or Representative Eric Swalwell,
  • 00:20:32.298 --> 00:20:34.200
  • including but not limitedto any record located on,
  • 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.136
  • we have to do this now,backup tapes, archives,
  • 00:20:37.136 --> 00:20:39.372
  • and any other recovery,backup, storage
  • 00:20:39.372 --> 00:20:41.040
  • or retrievable systemthat the Office
  • 00:20:41.040 --> 00:20:42.542
  • of the Director of NationalIntelligence would have.
  • 00:20:42.542 --> 00:20:44.844
  • We're also asking for, we'llprobably be sending this
  • 00:20:44.844 --> 00:20:48.047
  • to other agencies as well.
  • 00:20:48.047 --> 00:20:50.182
  • They will not respond,
  • 00:20:50.182 --> 00:20:51.384
  • especially with thisincoming administration,
  • 00:20:51.384 --> 00:20:53.386
  • if that's the case,if President Trump
  • 00:20:53.386 --> 00:20:57.256
  • does not succeedin his challenges
  • 00:20:57.256 --> 00:20:58.958
  • and Joe Biden is the presidentof the United States.
  • 00:20:58.958 --> 00:21:01.594
  • So what does that mean?
  • 00:21:01.594 --> 00:21:02.528
  • It probably means litigation.
  • 00:21:02.528 --> 00:21:04.363
  • But that's exactly what wedo, so that's not a problem.
  • 00:21:04.363 --> 00:21:07.166
  • But we want to get tothe bottom of this,
  • 00:21:07.166 --> 00:21:10.002
  • which is also gonna takecongressional oversight, Thann,
  • 00:21:11.337 --> 00:21:13.806
  • because it's serious.
  • 00:21:13.806 --> 00:21:15.708
  • But Eric Swalwell, meanwhile,
  • 00:21:15.708 --> 00:21:17.076
  • is still on theIntelligence Committee.
  • 00:21:17.076 --> 00:21:19.645
  • - Still on theIntelligence Committee,
  • 00:21:19.645 --> 00:21:21.047
  • still has access to moreclassified information
  • 00:21:21.047 --> 00:21:24.016
  • than just about anyother member of Congress.
  • 00:21:24.016 --> 00:21:25.518
  • By the way, Jay,something that he argued
  • 00:21:25.518 --> 00:21:27.253
  • or he brags about in his book,
  • 00:21:27.253 --> 00:21:28.955
  • something that speakerPelosi has enabled,
  • 00:21:28.955 --> 00:21:30.756
  • something that ChairmanSchiff has enabled,
  • 00:21:30.756 --> 00:21:32.825
  • but Jay, you'realready seeing members
  • 00:21:32.825 --> 00:21:34.594
  • of the House OversightCommittee calling
  • 00:21:34.594 --> 00:21:36.295
  • for similar investigations.
  • 00:21:36.295 --> 00:21:38.297
  • You're seeing leaderMcCarthy saying,
  • 00:21:38.297 --> 00:21:39.799
  • look, he's got to be removedoff the Committee immediately.
  • 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.535
  • You also see peoplelike Senator Scott
  • 00:21:42.535 --> 00:21:44.503
  • questioning whether ornot he should be a member
  • 00:21:44.503 --> 00:21:46.606
  • of the House at all.
  • 00:21:46.606 --> 00:21:47.740
  • But Jay, I would tell you this,
  • 00:21:47.740 --> 00:21:49.041
  • I think there's sortof two tiers to it,
  • 00:21:49.041 --> 00:21:50.943
  • and a lot of it's gonna dependon what our FOIA turns up.
  • 00:21:50.943 --> 00:21:53.913
  • The people of Californiaelected Congressman Swalwell,
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  • but he is not entitled to getmore classified information
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  • than just about everyother member of Congress.
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  • His seat on that committeeis selected and chosen
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  • by Speaker Pelosiand Adam Schiff.
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  • Jay, an investigation is fine,
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  • and maybe his seat will comeinto question eventually,
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  • but you know whatshould happen today?
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  • He should no longer be trusted
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  • with that classifiedinformation.
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  • And he should be takenoff that committee.
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  • And Speaker Pelosicould do it today.
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  • - When you look at asituation like this,
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  • you handled security informationand classified information,
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  • you served in the militaryfor a long time as a colonel,
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  • finished up as a colonel,China's a real threat.
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  • - Absolutely, it's ageopolitical threat.
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  • They are, of course,an oppressive regime.
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  • And the fact that a Congressmanin the United States
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  • on the Intel Committeehad this relationship
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  • is almost unfathomable.
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  • I wonder how a freshmanCongressman got put
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  • on the Intel Committeeto begin with,
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  • but certainly while thisinvestigation is going on,
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  • at the very least,while it's going on,
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  • he should be removedfrom the committee
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  • until the investigationis complete.
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  • - I don't think there'sany question about that.
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  • I'm gonna go quickly toThann here, and that includes
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  • making sure that there'scongressional oversight here.
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  • - Yeah, there needs to becongressional oversight,
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  • both into the activitiesof Eric Swalwell, but Jay,
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  • I think even asit gets underway,
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  • I think Speaker Pelosineeds to step up and say
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  • until this is all resolved,he doesn't get access
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  • to any moreclassified information
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  • through theIntelligence Committee.
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  • I think that's step one, Jay.
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