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The Question of the Cross | Episode 7

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July 5, 2018
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  • - MY NAME IS PAUL YOUNG.
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  • AND I AM THE AUTHOR OF THE SHACK.
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  • I WANT TO INVITE YOU ON AN ADVENTURE WITH ME AND
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  • WITH THE BOOK.
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  • A LOT OF YOU HAVE READ IT, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
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  • SOME OF YOU HAVE JUST HEARD ABOUT IT AND YOU
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  • HAVE QUESTIONS.
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  • THIS IS A BOOK THAT ALLOWS US TO EXPLORE
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  • RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.
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  • QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT HURT AND LOSS AND GRIEF.
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  • QUESTIONS ABOUT WONDER AND BEAUTY AND JOY.
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  • WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO LIVE A LIFE OF FAITH?
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  • WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT DEATH?
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  • WHY DO TRAGIC THINGS HAPPEN TO US?
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  • THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO EXPLORE,
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  • AND I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME WITH ME.
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  • THIS IS AN INVITATION.
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [CHURCH BELL RINGING]
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  • [SINGING] YOU'RE NOT EMBARRASSED BY
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  • THE MESS I'VE MADE...
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  • YOU'LL NEVER TURN YOUR FACE AWAY...
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  • YOU'LL NEVER EVER BE ASHAMED OF ME...
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  • AND WHEN I CRY, YOU WILL HEAR...
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  • PARAPHRASE OF A HIT SONG, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT
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  • THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.
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  • I GET ASKED FAIRLY OFTEN, AFTER THESE YEARS SINCE I
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  • WROTE THE SHACK, WOULD I CHANGE ANYTHING. SURE.
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  • THERE'S ALWAYS LITTLE BITS AND NUANCES, THINGS
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  • THAT YOU WOULD CHANGE, BUT THERE IS ONE BIG
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  • MISTAKE I MADE IN THE SHACK.
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  • AND I'M KIND OF GLAD BECAUSE IT GIVES ME
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  • AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT.
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  • THERE IS A SCENE WHEN MACKENZIE FIRST GOES INTO
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  • THE TRANSFORMED SHACK.
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  • HE'S BEEN ON THE PORCH, PAPA'S COME THROUGH THE
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  • DOOR, JESUS IS THERE, SARAYU IS COLLECTING
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  • HIS TEARS. HE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHERE HE IS.
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  • HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS GOD THE
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  • FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, WHO ARE COMING OUT
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  • FROM WITHIN HIS OWN MESS, THE MESS THAT HE'S MADE
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  • AND THE MESS THAT OTHERS HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
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  • AND HE GOES INTO THIS PLACE, AND THE FIRST
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  • THING THAT HE LOOKS FOR IS THAT SPOT NEAR THE
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  • FIREPLACE WHERE MISSY'S BLOODSTAIN SHOULD BE.
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  • AND IT'S NOT THERE.
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  • THAT WAS A MISTAKE.
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  • I UNDERSTAND KIND OF HOW I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT
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  • SCENE, BUT I THINK I GOT IT WRONG.
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  • THAT BLOODSTAIN SHOULD BE THERE.
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  • JUST BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH A LOT OF OUR
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  • STUFF DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE EVIDENCE OF
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  • IT JUST SOMEHOW DISAPPEARS.
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  • IT WORKS DIFFERENTLY THAN THAT.
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  • GOD WORKS DIFFERENTLY INSIDE OF OUR LOSSES THAN
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  • THAT. JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE WORKED THROUGH GRIEF, SAY
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  • AT THE LOSS OF A CHILD, OR THE DEATH OF A LOVED
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  • ONE, OR SOME GREAT INJUSTICE DOESN'T MEAN
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  • THAT THE EVIDENCE OF IT JUST DISAPPEARS.
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  • IT SOMEHOW GETS WOVEN INTO WHO WE'VE BECOME
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  • AND WHO WE ARE.
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  • IT BECOMES PART OF THE SOUND OF WHO WE ARE.
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  • LET ME GIVE YOU WHAT I THINK IS THE GREATEST
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  • EXAMPLE OF THIS AND ONE THAT, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
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  • IS HARD TO DIGEST, AND THAT IS THE CROSS.
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  • THE CROSS STANDS AS THE EPIC SYMBOL OF OUR FAITH,
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  • OF CHRISTIANITY, OF JESUS.
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  • BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE SUCH AN ICON OF DEVASTATION.
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  • SO HERE IS A GOOD QUESTION.
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  • WHO ORIGINATED THE CROSS?
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - CAR LEAVES IN 20 SECONDS.
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  • - WE'VE GOTTA GO, LITTLE RASCAL.
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  • - DO YOU THINK THE PRINCESS SHOULD HAVE
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  • A RED DRESS LIKE MINE?
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  • - RED IT IS.
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  • - WHERE IS MISSY?
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  • - MISSY!
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  • - WHERE'S MISSY? - THEY HAVEN'T SEEN HER.
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  • - MISSY! MISSY!
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  • [SIRENS BLARING]
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  • - I'M SCARED.
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  • - I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
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  • [POLICE RADIO] GROUND TEAMS FOUND A TRUCK IN THE MOUNTAINS.
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  • - I'M REALLY SORRY MR. PHILLIPS.
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  • [SCREAMING]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - NEED SOME HELP OVER THERE?
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  • - I'M OKAY.
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  • - HOW ABOUT SOME DINNER TONIGHT?
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  • - MAYBE NEXT TIME.
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  • [YELLING]
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  • I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY!
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  • - WE'VE LOST SO MUCH ALREADY.
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  • I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU TOO.
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  • - THE LETTER SHOWED UP IN MY MAILBOX WITH NO
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  • TRACKS IN THE SNOW.
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  • - YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT GOING BACK THERE, ARE YOU?
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  • - I'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
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  • - YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T A GOOD IDEA. IT'S CRAZY.
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  • - THIS IS ALL I GOT.
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  • - GOT A FIRE GOING INSIDE IF YOU WANT TO WARM UP.
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  • - MACKENZIE ALLEN PHILLIPS.
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  • I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
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  • - DO I KNOW YOU?
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  • - NOT VERY WELL BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT.
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  • - THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
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  • - YOU'RE STILL HAVING A HARD TIME BELIEVING
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  • THIS IS REAL.
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  • - WHY DID YOU BRING ME HERE?
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  • - THERE'S NO EASY ANSWER THAT WILL TAKE YOUR PAIN AWAY.
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  • - WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU?
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  • - I NEVER LEFT YOU. I NEVER LEFT MISSY.
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  • - YOU WANT ME TO FORGIVE HIM.
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  • I WANT HIM TO HURT LIKE HE HURT ME.
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  • - YOU WANT THE PROMISES OF A PAIN-FREE LIFE?
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - THERE ISN'T ONE.
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  • - YOU CAN DO THIS. - I CAN'T!
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  • - ON YOUR OWN YOU CAN'T.
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  • - THIS IS YOUR FLYING LESSON.
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME...
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  • WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND YOUR WAY...
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME...
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  • - I BELIEVE YOU.
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME...
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  • KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME...
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • FROM THE CHAPTER CALLED "A PIECE OF PIE."
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  • "'HOW CAN YOU REALLY KNOW HOW I FEEL?' MACK ASKED
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  • LOOKING BACK INTO HER EYES.
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  • PAPA DIDN'T ANSWER.
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  • ONLY LOOKED DOWN AT THEIR HANDS.
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  • HIS GAZE FOLLOWED HERS AND FOR THE FIRST TIME
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  • MACK NOTICED THE SCARS ON HER WRISTS, LIKE THOSE
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  • HE NOW ASSUMED JESUS ALSO HAD ON HIS.
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  • SHE ALLOWED HIM TO TENDERLY TOUCH THE SCARS,
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  • OUTLINES OF A DEEP PIERCING, AND HE FINALLY
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  • LOOKED UP AGAIN INTO HER EYES. TEARS WERE SLOWLY
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  • MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN HER FACE, LITTLE PATHWAYS
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  • THROUGH THE FLOWER THAT DUSTED HER CHEEKS.
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  • 'DON'T EVER THINK THAT WHAT MY SON CHOSE TO DO
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  • DIDN'T COST US DEARLY.
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  • LOVE ALWAYS LEAVES A SIGNIFICANT MARK,'
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  • SHE STATED IT SOFTLY AND GENTLY.
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  • 'WE WERE THERE TOGETHER.'
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  • MACK WAS SURPRISED. 'AT THE CROSS?
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  • NOW WAIT, I THOUGHT YOU LEFT HIM.
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  • YOU KNOW, MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN ME?'
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  • IT WAS A SCRIPTURE THAT HAD OFTEN HAUNTED MACK
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  • IN HIS GREAT SADNESS.
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  • 'YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE MYSTERY THERE.
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  • REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE FELT AT THAT MOMENT,
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  • I NEVER LEFT HIM.'"
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  • A LOT OF US KNOW THAT FEELING.
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  • IT WAS A SURPRISE TO PEOPLE THAT I WROTE THAT
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  • THERE WERE NAIL SCARS ON PAPA'S WRISTS.
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  • BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
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  • FOR GOD WAS IN CHRIST RECONCILING THE WORLD TO
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  • HIMSELF, NOT COUNTING THEIR SINS AGAINST THEM.
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  • WHERE ELSE WOULD GOD BE?
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • JOHN, IN HIS FIRST EPISTLE, HE IS TRYING TO
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  • DESCRIBE IN ONE SENTENCE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM
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  • JESUS, AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS.
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  • THAT GOD IS LIGHT, AND IN HIM THERE IS
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  • NO DARKNESS AT ALL.
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  • EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE CROSS COULD ORIGINATE IN GOD.
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  • IF GOD IS LIGHT AND IN HIM THERE IS NO DARKNESS
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  • AT ALL, AND YOU HAVE THIS TORTURE MACHINE, YOU HAVE
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  • TO UNDERSTAND THAT A CROSS HAS ONLY ONE
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  • DESIGN, ONLY ONE INTENT AND THAT IS TO KEEP A
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  • HUMAN BEING ALIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, IN AS MUCH PAIN
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  • AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN FORCIBLY EXTRACT THEIR
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  • VERY BREATH, THEIR SPIRIT FROM THEM.
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  • HOW COULD THAT ORIGINATE IN GOD?
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  • IT ORIGINATED IN US.
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  • WE BROUGHT THE CROSS TO THE TABLE.
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  • WE'RE THE ONES THAT WERE GOING TO CREATE THIS
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  • TORTURE MACHINE AND GOD KNEW THIS.
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  • DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN GOD CREATED, THAT THERE
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  • WERE INNUMERABLE WAYS THAT GOD COULD HAVE.
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  • OF COURSE. HE CHOOSES THE BEST.
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  • WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD CREATION.
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  • WE'RE THE BEST.
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  • BUT IT SEEMS OBVIOUS THAT THERE WAS NO WAY TO
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  • CREATE THIS HIGH ORDER OF BEING CALLED A "HUMAN
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  • BEING" WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO SAY NO, THERE WAS NO
  • 00:10:38.150 --> 00:10:42.180
  • WAY TO CREATE THIS BEING WITHOUT THEM SAYING NO.
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  • SO SCRIPTURE SAYS MULTIPLE TIMES THAT JESUS
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  • WAS SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD,
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  • THAT THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY ANTICIPATED.
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  • WE BRING THE CROSS TO THE TABLE.
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  • WE'RE THE ONES THAT POURED OUR WRATH ON HIM.
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  • WE'RE THE ONES THAT TURNED OUR FACE AWAY FROM HIM.
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  • THIS IS NOT SINNERS IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY GOD.
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  • THIS IS GOD IN THE HANDS OF AN ANGRY
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  • BUNCH OF SINNERS, US.
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  • ONE OF THE MOST PRECIOUS THINGS TO ME THAT JESUS
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  • EVER COMMUNICATED IS THIS CRY FROM THE CROSS.
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  • MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?
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  • PEOPLE THINK THAT SOMEHOW GOD THE FATHER POURED OUT
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  • HIS WRATH ON HIS SON IN ORDER TO BE RIGHT
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  • WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • NOW, I GREW UP IN A WORLD WHERE MY RELATIONSHIP
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  • WITH MY DAD MIRRORED THAT EXACTLY.
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  • MY DAD DIDN'T HAVE THE CHIP FOR BEING A DAD.
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  • HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO LOVE. HE DIDN'T KNOW.
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  • THAT HAD BEEN BROKEN IN HIM WAY BEFORE I SHOWED UP.
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  • AND MY THEOLOGY THEN BEGAN TO MATCH MY
  • 00:11:52.260 --> 00:11:55.270
  • EXPERIENCE WITH MY DAD.
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  • JESUS WAS THERE TO SAVE ME, YES, BUT SAVE ME FROM
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  • GOD THE FATHER, BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER WAS THE
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  • DARKNESS BEHIND THAT WAS WILLING TO POUR HIS WRATH
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  • OUT ON HIS SON IN ORDER TO BE RIGHT
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  • WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
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  • THAT'S SHEER MYTHOLOGY AND AN ABSOLUTE LIE, AND WE
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  • WRITE SONGS AS IF IT'S TRUE, AND IT'S NOT.
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  • BUT PEOPLE WILL SAY HOW ABOUT MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY
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  • HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?
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  • WASN'T THERE A SPLIT SOMEHOW WITHIN THE VERY
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  • DYNAMIC OF THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT?
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  • THINK ABOUT THAT.
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  • YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN TAKE THIS GREAT DANCE OF
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  • OTHERS-CENTERED, SELF-GIVING LOVE AND
  • 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.050
  • YOU CAN TAKE IT APART?
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  • YOU THINK WE'RE THAT POWERFUL?
  • 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:39.210
  • YOU THINK THAT SOMEHOW WE WERE ABLE TO GET INSIDE
  • 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:42.150
  • THAT SPACE AND RIP THE TRINITY TO SHREDS?
  • 00:12:42.170 --> 00:12:46.120
  • AND WHERE WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT?
  • 00:12:46.140 --> 00:12:48.130
  • IS THE HOLY SPIRIT TRYING TO PROTECT THE SON FROM
  • 00:12:48.150 --> 00:12:50.170
  • AN ABUSIVE FATHER?
  • 00:12:50.190 --> 00:12:51.280
  • IS THE HOLY SPIRIT TRYING TO TELL THE FATHER, OR IS
  • 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.070
  • HE JUST SILENT WHEN THE ABUSE IS TAKING PLACE?
  • 00:12:54.090 --> 00:12:57.260
  • WHAT KIND OF AN IMAGINATION DO WE HAVE ABOUT THIS?
  • 00:12:57.280 --> 00:13:02.180
  • MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME.
  • 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.050
  • DOESN'T THAT INDICATE THAT THERE WAS A
  • 00:13:05.070 --> 00:13:06.170
  • SEPARATION BETWEEN GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE SON?
  • 00:13:06.190 --> 00:13:10.040
  • THAT GOD HAD TO TURN HIS FACE AWAY FROM HIS SON?
  • 00:13:10.060 --> 00:13:13.150
  • THAT GOD CANNOT LOOK UPON SIN AND THEREFORE
  • 00:13:13.170 --> 00:13:15.230
  • JESUS IS NOW SIN? BUT WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:13:15.250 --> 00:13:18.020
  • DID JESUS STOP BEING GOD?
  • 00:13:18.040 --> 00:13:19.250
  • HOW DID GOD, WHO IS JESUS, STOP BEING GOD FOR A
  • 00:13:19.270 --> 00:13:24.110
  • MOMENT BECAUSE GOD CANNOT LOOK ON SIN?
  • 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:27.060
  • WHERE WAS JESUS? WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.110
  • ISN'T THIS CONFUSING TO YOU?
  • 00:13:29.130 --> 00:13:31.010
  • IT'S INCREDIBLY CONFUSING TO ME.
  • 00:13:31.030 --> 00:13:33.240
  • SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER HERE?
  • 00:13:33.260 --> 00:13:35.160
  • AND THE ANSWER IS IMBEDDED IN WHY I THINK
  • 00:13:35.180 --> 00:13:37.140
  • I MADE A MISTAKE IN THIS SCENE IN THE SHACK.
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:13:42.010 --> 00:13:51.140
  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:13:51.140 --> 00:13:58.280
  • THERE'S A VERSE THAT'S SOMETIMES
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  • MISTRANSLATED IN ISAIAH.
  • 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:06.030
  • THE NUANCE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND IT SAYS
  • 00:14:06.050 --> 00:14:10.040
  • THAT HE POURED OUT ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL.
  • 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:16.070
  • BUT THE HEBREW WORD IN THAT VERSE IS "PAGA", AND
  • 00:14:16.090 --> 00:14:20.130
  • PAGA MEANS ENCOUNTERED.
  • 00:14:20.150 --> 00:14:23.130
  • SO THE REAL TRUTH OF IT IS THAT IN JESUS, GOD THE
  • 00:14:23.150 --> 00:14:28.140
  • FATHER AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT ENCOUNTERED OUR
  • 00:14:28.160 --> 00:14:32.170
  • INIQUITY, ALL OF IT.
  • 00:14:32.190 --> 00:14:34.200
  • AND INIQUITY IS THE WORD THAT JUST DOESN'T MEAN
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  • BROKENNESS. IT MEANS THE FIST IN THE FACE OF GOD.
  • 00:14:36.270 --> 00:14:41.050
  • THE FINGER. THE REBELLION.
  • 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:44.100
  • IT WAS IN JESUS THAT GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE
  • 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:47.030
  • SON ENCOUNTERED OUR ABSOLUTE DESIRE TO
  • 00:14:47.050 --> 00:14:53.250
  • HUMILIATE AND BETRAY AND DESTROY LIFE AND LOVE AND
  • 00:14:53.270 --> 00:15:00.090
  • GOODNESS AND KINDNESS.
  • 00:15:00.110 --> 00:15:03.160
  • SEE, THERE IS NO PLAN B HERE.
  • 00:15:03.180 --> 00:15:06.260
  • THERE IS ONLY A PLAN A, AND JESUS HAS BEEN SLAIN
  • 00:15:06.280 --> 00:15:10.150
  • FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:15:10.170 --> 00:15:12.200
  • AND WHAT'S MIND BOGGLING AND TOO BEAUTIFUL FOR
  • 00:15:12.220 --> 00:15:15.280
  • WORDS IS THAT THIS IS A GOD WHO SUBMITS TO US,
  • 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:21.090
  • WHO HAS SUCH A HIGH VIEW OF HUMANITY THAT
  • 00:15:21.110 --> 00:15:25.220
  • GOD WILL BECOME FOREVER HUMAN IN JESUS.
  • 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.290
  • JESUS IS NOT SOMEDAY GOING TO SHED HIS HUMAN
  • 00:15:30.010 --> 00:15:33.000
  • SKIN LIKE IT WAS JUST PROPS FOR A STAGE SHOW.
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  • HE IS FULLY HUMAN AND WILL ALWAYS BE FULLY HUMAN.
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  • HE IS TAKING THE PLACE OF EVERY HUMAN AND LIVES A
  • 00:15:42.140 --> 00:15:47.180
  • DEPENDENT LIFE ON THE LOVE OF THE FATHER AND
  • 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.240
  • THE ACTIVITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:15:50.260 --> 00:15:53.070
  • THIS IS A GREAT DANCE, AND WE WERE INCLUDED INTO IT.
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  • NO PLAN B. THIS IS PLAN A.
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  • WE NEED TO WAKE UP AND BEGIN TO PARTICIPATE.
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • THINK ABOUT THIS.
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  • THE TRINITY, FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, WHO HAVE
  • 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:31.230
  • ALWAYS BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS GREAT CIRCLE OF
  • 00:16:31.250 --> 00:16:35.220
  • UNRELENTING LOVE, AND THIS IS WHAT JESUS KNOWS.
  • 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.130
  • BUT HE ALSO KNOWS WHERE HE'S GOING.
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  • HE'S GOING TO THE CROSS.
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  • HE IS GOING TO PUT HIMSELF IN THE HANDS OF
  • 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.050
  • SINNERS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAP ON HIM EVERY
  • 00:16:47.070 --> 00:16:52.110
  • BRUTALITY WE CAN IMAGINE IN AN ATTEMPT TO
  • 00:16:52.130 --> 00:16:55.190
  • DESTROY LIFE HIMSELF.
  • 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:58.080
  • AND HE KNOWS HE'S GOT TO GO TO THE BOTTOM
  • 00:16:58.100 --> 00:17:01.210
  • OF WHERE WE'RE LOST. TO THE VERY BOTTOM.
  • 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:06.090
  • AND THE VERY BOTTOM IS WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE
  • 00:17:06.110 --> 00:17:10.110
  • SEPARATED OURSELVES FROM GOD.
  • 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:13.050
  • WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN POWERFUL ENOUGH TO
  • 00:17:13.070 --> 00:17:16.000
  • LEAVE THE CIRCLE OF THE GREAT DANCE AND GET OUT
  • 00:17:16.020 --> 00:17:18.280
  • OF THERE SOMEWHERE SEPARATED.
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  • AND HE KNOWS HE'S GOING THERE, AND HE DOESN'T
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  • WANT TO GO THERE.
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  • HE HAS ONLY KNOWN THE LOVE AND THE AFFECTION
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  • OF THE FATHER.
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  • HE HAS ONLY KNOWN THE ABILITY TO HEAR AND
  • 00:17:32.090 --> 00:17:34.220
  • ENCOUNTER THE LOVE AND THE EMBRACE OF THE HOLY
  • 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.230
  • SPIRIT, AND NOW HE'S GONNA GO TO WHERE WE
  • 00:17:38.250 --> 00:17:42.000
  • LIVE, AND THAT IS IN A SENSE OF ABANDONMENT, AND
  • 00:17:42.020 --> 00:17:46.180
  • A SENSE OF DETACHMENT, AND A SENSE OF SEPARATION.
  • 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:50.110
  • HE'S GONNA GO THERE AND EXPERIENCE OUR LOSS,
  • 00:17:50.130 --> 00:17:56.070
  • OUR IMPRISONMENT, OUR DEVASTATION, AND
  • 00:17:56.090 --> 00:18:01.120
  • HE GOES TO THE CROSS.
  • 00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:03.130
  • AND AS HE'S HANGING ON THERE, HE CRIES OUT A HIT
  • 00:18:03.150 --> 00:18:07.180
  • SONG. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
  • 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:12.020
  • "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME" IS THE
  • 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:14.190
  • FIRST LINES OF A HIT SONG. TRULY.
  • 00:18:14.210 --> 00:18:19.080
  • THE PSALMS ARE HIT SONGS.
  • 00:18:19.100 --> 00:18:21.280
  • AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HEAR A HIT SONG AND
  • 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.290
  • SOMEBODY SINGS THE FIRST LINE, THE WHOLE SONG
  • 00:18:24.010 --> 00:18:27.030
  • BEGINS TO PLAY THROUGH YOUR MIND.
  • 00:18:27.050 --> 00:18:30.100
  • AND ON THE CROSS, JESUS CRIES THE FIRST LINE
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  • OF PSALM 22.
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  • MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?
  • 00:18:36.090 --> 00:18:39.280
  • AND I LOVE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S MY CRY.
  • 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.190
  • MY WHOLE LIFE I WAS SAYING GOD, WHERE ARE YOU?
  • 00:18:42.210 --> 00:18:45.130
  • I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
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  • I CAN'T FEEL YOUR PRESENCE.
  • 00:18:46.290 --> 00:18:49.110
  • WHERE ARE YOU?
  • 00:18:49.130 --> 00:18:50.080
  • HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME?
  • 00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:51.260
  • HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?
  • 00:18:51.280 --> 00:18:53.060
  • SEE, THAT'S MY CRY.
  • 00:18:53.080 --> 00:18:54.260
  • AND JESUS DROPS INTO NOT JUST MY LOSS BUT THE LOSS
  • 00:18:54.280 --> 00:18:58.150
  • OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, EVERY HUMAN BEING WHO HAS
  • 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:01.250
  • EVER BEEN CONCEIVED, AND HE CRIES OUR CRY.
  • 00:19:01.270 --> 00:19:06.110
  • HE CAN'T SENSE THE AFFECTION OF THE FATHER.
  • 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:10.070
  • BUT GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:19:10.090 --> 00:19:11.280
  • HE KNOWS THE WHOLE PSALM.
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  • HE DOESN'T KNOW JUST THE FIRST LINE.
  • 00:19:14.040 --> 00:19:17.000
  • AND YOU KNOW I TOLD YOU I WAS PARAPHRASING A HIT
  • 00:19:17.020 --> 00:19:19.220
  • SONG? I WAS PARAPHRASING PSALM 22.
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  • HALFWAY THROUGH HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS.
  • 00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.240
  • YOU, GOD, YOU DO NOT DESPISE THE AFFLICTION OF
  • 00:19:26.260 --> 00:19:31.260
  • THE AFFLICTED, NOR-- LISTEN. NOR WILL YOU
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  • TURN YOUR FACE FROM HIM.
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  • AND WHEN HE CRIES, YOU WILL HEAR.
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  • THE VERY LAST VERSE OF PSALM 22, THE CRESCENDO,
  • 00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:48.080
  • GUESS WHAT IT SAYS?
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  • HE FINISHED IT. HE FINISHED IT.
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  • PSALM 22 IS THE PSALM OF THE CROSS.
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  • PSALM 23 IS THE PSALM OF THE GRAVE.
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  • AND PSALM 24 IS THE PSALM OF THE RESURRECTION.
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  • MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?
  • 00:20:02.080 --> 00:20:05.270
  • BUT NOT FOR ONE SECOND DID HE BELIEVE THAT HIS
  • 00:20:05.290 --> 00:20:08.080
  • FATHER HAD ABANDONED HIM BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE
  • 00:20:08.100 --> 00:20:10.130
  • NEVER SAID SO INTO YOUR HANDS I COMMIT MY SPIRIT.
  • 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:13.150
  • I AM NOT LETTING THIS MACHINE TAKE MY BREATH,
  • 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:17.090
  • SO I WILL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE
  • 00:20:17.110 --> 00:20:19.260
  • LEFT AND THAT IS MY VERY BREATH, MY SPIRIT
  • 00:20:19.280 --> 00:20:23.240
  • I GIVE TO YOU.
  • 00:20:23.260 --> 00:20:26.050
  • PAUL, THE APOSTLE, WRITING ABOUT THIS SCENE
  • 00:20:29.110 --> 00:20:32.080
  • ANSWERS THE QUESTION DEFINITIVELY, WHERE WAS
  • 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:35.030
  • GOD THE FATHER WHEN JESUS WAS HANGING ON THE CROSS?
  • 00:20:35.050 --> 00:20:38.050
  • AND THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS IN 2 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 5.
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:41.070
  • FOR GOD THE FATHER WAS IN CHRIST RECONCILING THE
  • 00:20:41.090 --> 00:20:45.200
  • WORLD TO HIMSELF, NOT COUNTING THEIR
  • 00:20:45.220 --> 00:20:48.140
  • SINS AGAINST THEM.
  • 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.100
  • THE FATHER WAS IN CHRIST.
  • 00:20:50.120 --> 00:20:53.240
  • SO NOT ONLY DID JESUS TAKE THE FATHER AND THE
  • 00:20:53.260 --> 00:20:57.280
  • SPIRIT INTO THE DEPTHS OF OUR LOSTNESS, BUT HE
  • 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.260
  • GATHERS UP ALL OF US IN THAT AND RAISES US
  • 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:05.140
  • UP OUT OF THAT. THAT'S ALL 2 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 5.
  • 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:09.020
  • READ IT.
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:20.230
  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:21:20.230 --> 00:21:28.070
  • THIS IS A GOD WHO KNOWS THE DEPTHS OF LOSS.
  • 00:21:29.180 --> 00:21:32.270
  • JESUS WHO BECOMES SIN FOR US, NOT JUST HUMAN
  • 00:21:32.290 --> 00:21:38.170
  • ANTHROPOS BUT FLESH, SARKS AND THEN SIN.
  • 00:21:38.190 --> 00:21:44.290
  • THIS IS A GOD WHO FULLY JOINS US AND NEVER IS
  • 00:21:45.010 --> 00:21:50.050
  • UNLOVING, NEVER IS THAT RELENTLESS AFFECTION
  • 00:21:50.070 --> 00:21:56.000
  • DISSIPATED OR LOST.
  • 00:21:56.020 --> 00:21:58.020
  • THERE IS NOTHING YOU WILL EVER DO THAT WILL MAKE
  • 00:21:58.040 --> 00:22:00.160
  • GOD LOVE YOU LESS OR MAKE GOD LOVE YOU MORE.
  • 00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:05.030
  • GOD IS LOVE.
  • 00:22:05.050 --> 00:22:09.100
  • THIS IS A GOD WHO HAS GONE TO THE DEPTHS.
  • 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:11.260
  • THIS IS WHY THERE SHOULD STILL BE A BLOODSTAIN.
  • 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:14.260
  • AND HERE'S THE BEAUTY OF WHAT GOD DOES.
  • 00:22:14.280 --> 00:22:17.150
  • HE NOT ONLY CLIMBS INTO OUR TORTURE MACHINES, OR
  • 00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:20.180
  • THE MESSES THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE, OR WHAT
  • 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.040
  • OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO US, OR THE ABUSE THAT
  • 00:22:23.060 --> 00:22:25.200
  • WE'VE EXPERIENCED.
  • 00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:27.040
  • HE NOT ONLY CLIMBS IN THERE, BUT THEN HE BEGINS
  • 00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:30.000
  • TO BUILD SOMETHING ALIVE FROM IT, INSIDE OF IT,
  • 00:22:30.020 --> 00:22:34.260
  • AND SO FROM THIS CROSS, THIS TORTURE DEVICE, GOD
  • 00:22:34.280 --> 00:22:38.140
  • NOT ONLY CLIMBS ONTO IT WILLINGLY IN ORDER TO
  • 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.030
  • RESCUE US, AND FIND US, AND REDEEM US, AND RECONCILE
  • 00:22:42.050 --> 00:22:46.060
  • US; BUT HE THEN TRANSFORMS THAT MACHINE
  • 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:50.060
  • INTO AN ICON AND A MONUMENT OF GRACE SO
  • 00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:54.090
  • PRECIOUS TO US THAT WE'LL WEAR IT ON OUR RINGS AND
  • 00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:58.280
  • AROUND OUR NECKS, A TORTURE MACHINE BECAUSE
  • 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:02.080
  • IT STANDS FOREVER AS THE DECLARATION THERE IS
  • 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:05.100
  • NOTHING THAT I CAN BRING TO THE TABLE THAT IS
  • 00:23:05.120 --> 00:23:07.200
  • BIGGER THAN GOD, THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE
  • 00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:10.070
  • TO ME THAT GOD CAN'T CLIMB INTO THE MIDDLE OF
  • 00:23:10.090 --> 00:23:13.120
  • AND BEGIN TO GROW SOMETHING ALIVE IN IT.
  • 00:23:13.140 --> 00:23:18.130
  • MY STORY IS A STORY OF BROKENNESS.
  • 00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:22.090
  • THE SHACK IS ONE OF THOSE EVIDENCES THAT GOD CAN
  • 00:23:22.110 --> 00:23:26.100
  • CLIMB INTO LOSTNESS AND BROKENNESS AND DEVASTATION
  • 00:23:26.120 --> 00:23:30.140
  • AND ABUSE, AND OUT OF THAT CREATE AN
  • 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.050
  • ICON AND A MONUMENT OF GRACE.
  • 00:23:33.070 --> 00:23:35.230
  • EVERY ONE OF US WILL BE, IF WE'RE NOT ALREADY,
  • 00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:39.250
  • AN ICON AND A MONUMENT OF GRACE.
  • 00:23:39.270 --> 00:23:43.040
  • THIS IS A GOD WHO TAKES OUR WORST AND PLANTS A
  • 00:23:43.060 --> 00:23:48.020
  • FLAG IN IT AND STAYS IN IT IN ORDER TO TRANSFORM
  • 00:23:48.040 --> 00:23:52.200
  • IT. THIS IS THE GOD WHO COMES TO FIND US
  • 00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:57.110
  • IN ALL OF OUR LOSTNESS.
  • 00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:59.160
  • THIS IS A GOD WHO HAS FULLY JOINED US AND
  • 00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:01.270
  • NEVER LET US GO.
  • 00:24:01.290 --> 00:24:04.020
  • TO THE PRAISE OF HIS GLORY.
  • 00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:06.060
  • AMEN.
  • 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:07.260
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:24:07.280 --> 00:24:18.210
  • SO WE'VE JUST HAD THIS LARGE CONVERSATION ABOUT
  • 00:24:18.230 --> 00:24:22.080
  • THE CROSS, AND THE QUESTION IS RAISED
  • 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:25.070
  • IS GOD REALLY THIS GOOD?
  • 00:24:25.090 --> 00:24:29.040
  • COULD GOD BE POSSIBLY THIS GOOD?
  • 00:24:29.060 --> 00:24:32.030
  • HERE'S MY QUESTION FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
  • 00:24:32.050 --> 00:24:35.010
  • DOES THIS CHANGE THE WAY YOU LOOK AT GOD,
  • 00:24:35.030 --> 00:24:38.210
  • AND IF SO, HOW?
  • 00:24:38.230 --> 00:24:41.100
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:24:41.120 --> 00:24:44.000
  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
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  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:24:57.180 --> 00:25:10.200
  • [UPLIFTING MUSIC]
  • 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:19.260