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May 28, 2019
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Bobby Schuller hosts Ted DiBiase.

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Praise | Ted DiBiase | 5/28/19

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, ON
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  • "PRAISE" FROM LOS ANGELES,
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  • FORMER PRO WRESTLER, MANAGER,
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  • AND ORDAINED MINISTER,
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  • TED "THE MILLION-DOLLAR MAN"
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - BOBBY SCHULLER: WELCOME TO
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  • I'M BOBBY SCHULLER.
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  • WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE JOINING US
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  • TONIGHT.
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  • AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF
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  • TALKING TO TED DIBIASE, THE
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  • MILLION-DOLLAR MAN, ABOUT HIS
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  • MAYBE YOU'RE WATCHING TONIGHT,
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  • AND, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A
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  • ROUGH TIME IN YOUR MARRIAGE.
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  • YOU THINK: MAN, CAN GOD SAVE
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  • THIS MARRIAGE?
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  • OR, MAYBE, YOU'RE IN A PLACE
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  • WHERE YOU'RE DOING REALLY WELL
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  • FINANCIALLY.
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  • YOU JUST WONDER: WILL I EVER
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  • FIND MEANING IN MY LIFE?
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  • MAYBE YOU'RE SOMEBODY WHO'S
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  • WATCHING AND YOU THINK: IF I
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  • JUST HAD MORE MONEY, MORE FAME,
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  • I'D BE HAPPIER.
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  • WELL, TED DIBIASE WAS ALL OF
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  • THOSE THINGS.
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  • AND, TONIGHT, HE'S GOING TO
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  • SHARE HIS TESTIMONY ABOUT HOW
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  • GOD PULLED HIM OUT OF THE MIRE.
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  • AND HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS
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  • FILM, "THE PRICE OF FAME."
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  • TAKE A LOOK.
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  • - MALE VOICE: THAT'S MY DAD,
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  • WHO LOVED TO LACE UP HIS BOOTS,
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  • WHO LOVED THE ROAR OF THE
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  • CROWD, WHO BATTLED WITH GIANTS
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  • AND TITANS THAT WERE LARGER
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  • THAN LIFE.
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  • YEP.
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  • THAT'S MY DAD...WHO SAID,
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  • "EVERYBODY'S GOT A PRICE."
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  • - TED DIBIASE: EVERYBODY'S
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  • GOT A PRICE...FOR THE MILLION
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  • DOLLAR MAN.
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  • - MALE VOICE: AND WHEN IT CAME
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  • TO FAME, HE LEARNED THAT, WELL,
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  • IT'S TRUE.
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  • - TED: ULTIMATELY, I ALWAYS
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  • GET WHAT I WANT AND I ALWAYS
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  • GET MY WAY.
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  • AND, EVENTUALLY, I'LL HAVE IT
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  • ALL.
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  • MY WIFE, WHO WAS TOTALLY
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  • COMMITTED TO ME, MY WIFE, WHO
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  • NEVER CALLED ME ANYWHERE IN THE
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  • WORLD TO CHECK UP ON ME, HAD
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  • NOW DISCOVERED THAT I
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  • WAS...COMMITTING ADULTERY.
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  • - MELANIE DIBIASE: WHEN I
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  • DISCOVERED THAT TED HAD BEEN
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  • CHEATING IN OUR MARRIAGE, I HAD
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  • TO HOLD IT TOGETHER FOR MY
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  • CHILDREN.
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  • - TED: IN A LOT OF CASES,
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  • THE PRICE OF FAME IS TOO
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  • COSTLY.
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  • - TED, JR.: DAD, YOU'VE
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  • NEVER SAID SORRY TO-TO MY FACE.
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  • - MALE ON CAMERA: THERE'S
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  • NOTHING WRONG WITH GOING AND
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  • TRYING YOUR HARDEST AT ANYTHING
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  • YOU LOVE, BUT NOT FOR FAME.
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  • - MALE VOICE: YOUR DAD IS SO
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  • NOT THE SAME PERSON HE WAS.
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  • WE DON'T EVEN IDENTIFY WITH THE
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  • PEOPLE WE WERE.
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  • - MELANIE: THE ONE THING THAT
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  • KEPT ME SANE THROUGH ALL OF
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  • THIS WAS MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
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  • THE LORD.
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  • - TED: AND ALL I EVER WANTED
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  • WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD
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  • WAS...TO MAKE YOU PROUD.
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  • AND, NOW, I THINK THAT I HAVE.
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  • - TED'S SON: FOLLOWING IN
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  • YOUR FOOTSTEPS, AGAIN, YOU
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  • KNOW...I WANTED TO BE A
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  • WRESTLER.
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  • NOW, I WANNA BE THAT KIND OF
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  • DAD.
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  • AND I WANT MY SON TO BE PROUD
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  • OF ME BECAUSE OF THE MAN THAT
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  • I'VE BECOME, THE CHARACTER AND
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  • THE INTEGRITY THAT I EXEMPLIFY.
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  • AND THE ONLY REASON I WANT THAT
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  • AND DESIRE THAT IS BECAUSE
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  • THAT'S THE MAN YOU BECAME.
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  • - TED: EVERYBODY'S GOT A
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  • PRICE.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - BOBBY: WOW!
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  • - TED: WOW.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - BOBBY: SO...
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • ...THE MOVIE IS CALLED
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  • "THE PRICE OF FAME" AND IT'S A
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  • MOVIE ABOUT YOU.
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  • TED DIBIASE, THE MILLION
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  • DOLLAR MAN.
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  • THOSE OF YOU WHO WATCHED YOU IN
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  • THE 80s AND 90s FIGHTING AS
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  • SORT OF THE ULTIMATE VILLAIN OF
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  • THE WWF, THE WWE MIGHT BE
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  • SURPRISED THAT YOU'RE A MAN OF
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  • - TED: UH, FOR, UH-- I
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  • ACTUALLY GOT...ALL THE WAY
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  • SAVED.
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  • I MEAN...MAJOR TRANSFORMATION
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  • WAS IN 1992.
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  • I HAD A VERY STRONG WHAT I CALL
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  • CHILDLIKE FAITH IN GOD WHEN I
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  • WAS YOUNG.
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  • UM...PEOPLE ASK ME, YOU KNOW,
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  • "WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO BE A
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  • I MEAN, IT'S NOT A NORMAL JOB.
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  • AND IT WAS MY DAD WHO WAS ALSO
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  • NOT ONLY A PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER
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  • BUT AN AMATEUR WRESTLER AND HAD
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  • A HUGE IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
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  • SO, I WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS WHO
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  • GREW UP AND WANTED TO BE LIKE
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  • MY DAD.
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  • AND, UH, THAT ALL WENT WELL
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  • TILL I WAS 15.
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  • UM...HE HAD A HEART ATTACK --
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  • SUFFERED A HEART ATTACK DURING
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  • A MATCH, DIED.
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  • I ENDED UP IN A LITTLE TOWN IN
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  • SOUTHERN ARIZONA WITH MY
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  • GRANDPARENTS, AND MY MOTHER,
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  • AND MY YOUNGER BROTHER.
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  • - BOBBY: WOW, WAIT.
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  • SO, YOUR DAD ACTUALLY DIED.
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  • YOUR DAD WAS AN AMATEUR
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  • WRESTLER AND DIED AT 45 WHILE
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  • WRESTLING?
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  • - TED: RIGHT.
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  • - BOBBY: HOW DID THAT IMPACT
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  • YOU AND YOUR DESIRE TO BE A
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  • WRESTLER AND A...
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  • - TED: UH, WELL, YOU KNOW,
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  • WHAT'S FUNNY IS THE ONE THING
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  • THAT...HE NEVER WANTED ME TO BE
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  • WAS A PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER.
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  • - BOBBY: OH, YEAH.
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  • AND THAT-- JUST RIGHT.
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  • [LAUGHS]
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  • - TED: AND, YOU KNOW, OF
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  • COURSE, I HAD TO GO AND DO IT,
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  • AND THEN FIND OUT: YOU WERE
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  • RIGHT, DAD.
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  • I GET IT.
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  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
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  • - TED: UH...BUT, UH, HE WASN'T
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  • THERE TO STOP ME.
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  • AND, AGAIN, IT WAS LIKE: IF IT
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  • WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR DAD, IT'LL
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  • BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
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  • AND THEN, SO, I JUST DESIRED SO
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  • MUCH TO BE LIKE HIM.
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  • - BOBBY: IT WAS AN AMAZING
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  • JOURNEY FOR YOU, WASN'T IT?
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  • I MEAN, I REMEMBER-- SO, I'M A
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  • CHILD OF-- I'M A CHILD OF THE
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  • 80s.
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  • - TED: RIGHT.
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  • - BOBBY: AND SO, WHEN I FOUND
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  • OUT THAT I WAS GONNA BE ABLE
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  • TO MEET TED DIBIASE, THE
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  • MILLION DOLLAR MAN, TONIGHT...
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  • I REMEMBER ALL SORT OF THINGS.
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  • FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE THE
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  • ULTIMATE VILLAIN OF THE WWF.
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  • AND, I REMEMBER THESE THINGS
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  • THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU USED
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  • TO DO, YOU KNOW, AT MATCHES AND
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  • THINGS.
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  • LIKE, YOU WOULD HAVE THESE
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  • LITTLE SHORT FILMS AND THINGS
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  • THAT WOULD COME ON BEFORE,
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  • LIKE, YOU WOULD BE, UH,
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  • COUNTIN' YOUR MONEY AND SAY,
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  • "EVERYBODY HAS A PRICE, AND
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  • EVERYTHING HAS ITS PRICE, AND
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  • YOU HAVE A PRICE," AND THIS
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  • KIND OF THING.
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  • AND, YOU'D BUY OFF A-- I
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  • REMEMBER ONCE YOU BOUGHT OFF A
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  • NURSE, UH, BECAUSE YOU NEEDED
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  • TO SEE A DOCTOR, BECAUSE YOU
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  • GOT A PAPER CUT ON YOUR THUMB
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  • FOR A HUNDRED-DOLLAR BILL.
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  • - TED: (LAUGHING) YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • WELL, THE ONE THAT I HEAR ABOUT
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  • ALL THE TIME IS, UM...WHEN I
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  • GOT A LITTLE BOY ON STAGE AND I
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  • TOLD HIM IF HE DRIBBLED THE
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  • BASKETBALL--
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  • - BOBBY: YES!
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  • - TED: --WITHOUT MISSING, THEN
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  • I'D GIVE HIM $500.
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  • AND, WHEN HE GETS TO 14, I KICK
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  • THE BALL.
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  • - BOBBY: I REMEMBER THAT!
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  • POOR GUY!
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  • - TED: ALL OF THAT WAS STAGED
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  • TO MAKE ME OUT TO BE A BIG JERK.
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  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
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  • - TED: I WANT EVERYBODY TO
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  • KNOW: HE GOT THE MONEY.
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  • [LAUGHS]
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  • - BOBBY: OH, HE DID?
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  • AW, THAT MAKES ME FEEL SO GOOD.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - TED: YEAH, HE DID GET THE
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  • MONEY.
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  • - BOBBY: I REMEMBER THAT, AND,
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  • UH...
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - TED: ALL OF THOSE THINGS
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  • WERE MEANT TO, UH, ENHANCE--
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  • YOU KNOW, IT WAS-- THAT WAS ALL
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  • OF US, LIKE: LET'S MAKE THE
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  • PEOPLE REALLY HATE THIS GUY.
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  • AND THE MILLION DOLLAR MAN
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  • CHARACTER WAS REALLY-- I MEAN,
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  • HE WAS A BULLY.
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  • - BOBBY: YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - TED: HE BULLIED PEOPLE WITH
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  • HIS WEALTH.
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  • AND, UH...UM...
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  • BUT VINCE MCMAHON WENT WAY OUT
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  • OF HIS WAY TO TRY TO-- HE SAID,
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  • "TED, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE
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  • THE PUBLIC BELIEVE YOU'RE
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  • - TED: "AND SO, WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:06:40.290 --> 00:06:41.190
  • FLY YOU EVERYWHERE FIRST CLASS.
  • 00:06:41.190 --> 00:06:42.120
  • UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LIMOUSINE
  • 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:43.040
  • SERVICE EVERY DAY.
  • 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:43.190
  • YOU KNOW, YOU WON'T BE STAYING
  • 00:06:43.190 --> 00:06:45.000
  • AT THE RED ROOF INN ANYMORE.
  • 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.100
  • IT'LL BE ONLY THE FINEST
  • 00:06:46.100 --> 00:06:46.280
  • HOTELS."
  • 00:06:46.280 --> 00:06:48.260
  • AND I GO, "WELL, THAT'S A TOUGH
  • 00:06:48.260 --> 00:06:49.180
  • JOB, BUT I GUESS SOMEBODY'S
  • 00:06:49.180 --> 00:06:50.080
  • GOTTA DO IT, RIGHT?"
  • 00:06:50.080 --> 00:06:50.260
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S FUNNY.
  • 00:06:53.070 --> 00:06:54.240
  • - TED: --AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE
  • 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:55.150
  • THINGS, UH...ON THE SURFACE,
  • 00:06:55.150 --> 00:06:56.210
  • THEY SEEMED TO BE GREAT.
  • 00:06:56.210 --> 00:06:58.010
  • AND, UM...AND, THE WWF TOOK
  • 00:06:58.010 --> 00:07:00.240
  • OFF.
  • 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.290
  • I MEAN, IT'S THE WWE, NOW.
  • 00:07:01.290 --> 00:07:03.100
  • BUT IT TOOK OFF.
  • 00:07:03.100 --> 00:07:05.080
  • THIS IS WHEN IT JUST WAS--
  • 00:07:05.080 --> 00:07:06.110
  • STARTED TO FLY AND WENT
  • 00:07:06.110 --> 00:07:07.150
  • NATIONAL, AND THEN, NOW, IT'S
  • 00:07:07.150 --> 00:07:09.050
  • INTERNATIONAL.
  • 00:07:09.050 --> 00:07:10.030
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:07:10.030 --> 00:07:10.190
  • - TED: AND IT JUST GOT BIGGER
  • 00:07:10.190 --> 00:07:11.200
  • AND BIGGER.
  • 00:07:11.200 --> 00:07:12.080
  • AND SO, PRETTY SOON, WE'RE
  • 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:14.100
  • TRAVELING AROUND, LITERALLY,
  • 00:07:14.100 --> 00:07:15.140
  • LIKE ROCK STARS -- NOT ONLY
  • 00:07:15.140 --> 00:07:16.130
  • ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, BUT
  • 00:07:16.130 --> 00:07:17.080
  • GOING ON TOURS OF EUROPE AND
  • 00:07:17.080 --> 00:07:20.000
  • WHAT HAVE YOU.
  • 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:20.150
  • AND, IT JUST-- PEOPLE GO,
  • 00:07:21.010 --> 00:07:24.010
  • "GOSH," YOU KNOW.
  • 00:07:24.010 --> 00:07:24.180
  • YOU GO OUT AND DO AN ARENA,
  • 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:26.110
  • AND...AND, MAN, EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:07:26.110 --> 00:07:28.060
  • SHOUTIN' YOUR NAME.
  • 00:07:28.060 --> 00:07:29.150
  • AND, IN MY CASE, THEY'RE BOOING
  • 00:07:29.150 --> 00:07:30.070
  • ME.
  • 00:07:30.070 --> 00:07:30.220
  • OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT I
  • 00:07:30.220 --> 00:07:31.150
  • WANTED.
  • 00:07:31.150 --> 00:07:31.280
  • - BOBBY: OF COURSE.
  • 00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:32.150
  • THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED.
  • 00:07:32.150 --> 00:07:33.160
  • - TED: THAT WAS MY JOB.
  • 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:34.120
  • - BOBBY: YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S
  • 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:35.050
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:07:35.050 --> 00:07:35.190
  • - TED: THEY GO, "WOW, WHAT A--
  • 00:07:35.190 --> 00:07:37.010
  • WHAT A-- WHAT A LIFE."
  • 00:07:37.010 --> 00:07:38.020
  • BUT WHAT THE PEOPLE DON'T SEE
  • 00:07:38.020 --> 00:07:39.220
  • IS THEY DON'T SEE YOU GO BACK
  • 00:07:39.220 --> 00:07:42.080
  • TO THAT EMPTY HOTEL ROOM WITH
  • 00:07:42.080 --> 00:07:43.120
  • FOUR WALLS AND A TV...
  • 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:45.150
  • - BOBBY: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:07:45.150 --> 00:07:46.270
  • - TED: ...WHEN YOUR WIFE AND
  • 00:07:46.270 --> 00:07:47.180
  • YOUR KIDS ARE THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:07:47.180 --> 00:07:48.160
  • MILES AWAY -- OR EVEN 50 MILES
  • 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:49.210
  • AWAY OR A HUNDRED MILES AWAY.
  • 00:07:49.210 --> 00:07:51.020
  • AND YOU GO BACK AND YOU DO THAT
  • 00:07:51.020 --> 00:07:52.280
  • NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT
  • 00:07:52.280 --> 00:07:54.020
  • BECAUSE THE ROAD IS-- IT WAS--
  • 00:07:54.020 --> 00:07:55.110
  • I MEAN, IT WAS HARD.
  • 00:07:55.110 --> 00:07:57.000
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.020
  • - TED: UH, AND THEN-- SO,
  • 00:07:58.020 --> 00:08:00.030
  • NIGHT AFTER NIGHT.
  • 00:08:00.030 --> 00:08:01.080
  • AND THAT BECOMES A LONELY
  • 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:01.270
  • PLACE.
  • 00:08:01.270 --> 00:08:03.040
  • - BOBBY: OF COURSE.
  • 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:03.200
  • - TED: SO, THAT'S WHEN YOU GO
  • 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:04.140
  • DOWNSTAIRS AND YA...GO TO THE
  • 00:08:04.140 --> 00:08:05.160
  • BAR AND YOU HAVE A BEER.
  • 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.070
  • AND ONE BEER TURNS INTO TWO.
  • 00:08:07.070 --> 00:08:08.160
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:08:08.210 --> 00:08:11.210
  • AND THEN, UH...YOU KNOW, YOU
  • 00:08:11.210 --> 00:08:12.140
  • GET HURT.
  • 00:08:12.140 --> 00:08:12.270
  • YOU GET HURT.
  • 00:08:12.270 --> 00:08:13.100
  • AND WHEN YOU GET HURT, YOU KNOW
  • 00:08:13.100 --> 00:08:14.030
  • WHAT?
  • 00:08:14.030 --> 00:08:14.180
  • YOU TAKE PAIN PILLS.
  • 00:08:14.180 --> 00:08:16.110
  • AND THEN, YOU REALIZE: MY GOSH,
  • 00:08:16.110 --> 00:08:17.030
  • IF I TAKE A PAIN PILL AND DRINK
  • 00:08:17.030 --> 00:08:18.010
  • A BEER, THAT FEELS PRETTY GOOD.
  • 00:08:18.010 --> 00:08:18.280
  • THAT'S HOW GUYS GO OFF INTO
  • 00:08:18.280 --> 00:08:20.130
  • ADDICTION.
  • 00:08:23.090 --> 00:08:26.090
  • SO, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS
  • 00:08:26.090 --> 00:08:26.290
  • ABOUT FAME THAT JUST AREN'T
  • 00:08:26.290 --> 00:08:27.240
  • WHAT IT SEEMS TO BE.
  • 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.000
  • - BOBBY: WELL, AND, ALSO, IT
  • 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:30.150
  • WASN'T-- IT WASN'T LIKE RIGHT
  • 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.060
  • OUT OF THE GATE YOU WERE FAMOUS
  • 00:08:31.060 --> 00:08:31.280
  • AND RICH, BUT, RATHER, I MEAN,
  • 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:32.190
  • YOU REALLY HAD TO GRIND IT OUT
  • 00:08:32.190 --> 00:08:33.190
  • AS AN AM-- I MEAN, I ASSUME, AS
  • 00:08:33.190 --> 00:08:34.290
  • AN AMATEUR WRESTLER.
  • 00:08:34.290 --> 00:08:36.190
  • I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN
  • 00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:37.070
  • COLLEGE, WE HAD A BOWLING
  • 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:38.090
  • ALLEY.
  • 00:08:38.090 --> 00:08:40.140
  • I WENT TO ORU -- ORAL ROBERTS
  • 00:08:40.140 --> 00:08:41.250
  • UNIVERSITY IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA.
  • 00:08:41.250 --> 00:08:43.030
  • AND THERE WAS A BOWLING ALLEY
  • 00:08:43.030 --> 00:08:45.270
  • CALLED-- I THINK IT WAS CALLED
  • 00:08:45.270 --> 00:08:46.180
  • RIVER LANES.
  • 00:08:46.180 --> 00:08:47.210
  • AND, BEHIND IT, THERE WAS, LIKE
  • 00:08:47.210 --> 00:08:50.070
  • A...YOU KNOW, LIKE, A STEEL
  • 00:08:50.070 --> 00:08:51.230
  • BUILDING KIND OF SORT OF
  • 00:08:51.230 --> 00:08:52.110
  • ATTACHED TO IT.
  • 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:53.070
  • AND WE'D GO IN THERE AND IT
  • 00:08:53.070 --> 00:08:54.110
  • WAS...I GUESS, VERY SMALL,
  • 00:08:54.270 --> 00:08:57.270
  • AMATEUR, PROFESSIONAL -- I
  • 00:08:57.270 --> 00:08:59.020
  • DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT --
  • 00:08:59.020 --> 00:09:00.070
  • WRESTLING WHERE THERE'D BE, YOU
  • 00:09:00.070 --> 00:09:02.160
  • KNOW, 150, 200...YOU KNOW,
  • 00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:04.000
  • MOSTLY DRUNK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.280
  • LATE AT NIGHT.
  • 00:09:06.280 --> 00:09:08.020
  • [TED LAUGHS]
  • 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:08.230
  • AND ME AND MY FRIENDS, WE'D GO
  • 00:09:08.230 --> 00:09:09.140
  • IN THERE.
  • 00:09:09.140 --> 00:09:09.250
  • WE THOUGHT IT WAS THE GREATEST
  • 00:09:09.250 --> 00:09:10.200
  • THING EVER.
  • 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:11.040
  • AND THERE WOULD VERY OFTEN BE
  • 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:13.060
  • THESE YOUNG WRESTLERS WHO WOULD
  • 00:09:13.060 --> 00:09:14.140
  • GO IN THERE AND THEY WERE
  • 00:09:14.140 --> 00:09:15.150
  • FIGHTING AND STUFF.
  • 00:09:15.150 --> 00:09:16.020
  • BUT IS THAT KIND OF HOW IT
  • 00:09:16.020 --> 00:09:17.030
  • STARTS?
  • 00:09:17.030 --> 00:09:17.160
  • DO YOU GO TO BOWLING ALLEYS AND
  • 00:09:17.160 --> 00:09:18.130
  • CASINOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
  • 00:09:18.130 --> 00:09:19.150
  • OR...
  • 00:09:19.150 --> 00:09:20.050
  • - TED: WELL, WRESTLING,
  • 00:09:20.050 --> 00:09:21.260
  • UH...BEFORE VINCE MCMAHON TOOK
  • 00:09:21.260 --> 00:09:24.230
  • IT OVER, WAS PRETTY MUCH
  • 00:09:24.260 --> 00:09:27.260
  • WHAT-- I WOULD CALL IT A
  • 00:09:27.260 --> 00:09:29.100
  • BLUE-COLLAR-CROWD FORM OF
  • 00:09:29.100 --> 00:09:30.110
  • ENTERTAINMENT.
  • 00:09:30.110 --> 00:09:31.250
  • YOU WEREN'T GONNA SEE A LOT
  • 00:09:31.250 --> 00:09:32.150
  • OF--
  • 00:09:32.150 --> 00:09:33.070
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S TULSA,
  • 00:09:33.070 --> 00:09:33.250
  • OKLAHOMA, ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:09:33.250 --> 00:09:34.110
  • - TED: --KHAKI PANTS AND POLO
  • 00:09:34.110 --> 00:09:35.020
  • SHIRTS.
  • 00:09:35.020 --> 00:09:35.140
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:09:35.140 --> 00:09:35.280
  • YEAH.
  • 00:09:35.280 --> 00:09:36.140
  • - TED: ROUGH CROWD.
  • 00:09:36.140 --> 00:09:37.000
  • - BOBBY: YEAH!
  • 00:09:37.050 --> 00:09:40.050
  • - TED: UH...BUT IT WAS DONE ON
  • 00:09:40.050 --> 00:09:41.080
  • A VERY REGIONAL BASIS.
  • 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:41.250
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:09:41.250 --> 00:09:42.090
  • - TED: WE CALLED 'EM
  • 00:09:42.090 --> 00:09:42.260
  • TERRITORIES AND YOU WOULD MOVE
  • 00:09:42.260 --> 00:09:43.170
  • AROUND A LOT.
  • 00:09:43.170 --> 00:09:44.000
  • UH, I THINK IT HAD ITS START IN
  • 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.180
  • WHAT YOU WERE SAYIN', LIKE DONE
  • 00:09:45.180 --> 00:09:47.180
  • IN BARS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
  • 00:09:47.180 --> 00:09:49.140
  • BUT BY...BY THE TIME THAT, YOU
  • 00:09:49.140 --> 00:09:51.150
  • KNOW, MY DAD WAS WRESTLING,
  • 00:09:51.150 --> 00:09:53.070
  • AND, CERTAINLY, AS I CAME
  • 00:09:53.070 --> 00:09:55.090
  • ALONG, UH, IT WAS STILL DONE ON
  • 00:09:55.090 --> 00:09:57.000
  • A REGIONAL BASIS, BUT IT WAS IN
  • 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.180
  • REGULAR ARENAS.
  • 00:09:58.180 --> 00:10:00.180
  • BUT MOST OF THE TV SHOWS WERE
  • 00:10:00.180 --> 00:10:02.030
  • PRODUCED IN SMALL STUDIOS.
  • 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:05.070
  • YOU WEREN'T GOING INTO A
  • 00:10:05.070 --> 00:10:06.170
  • COLISEUM AND HAVING IT DONE.
  • 00:10:06.170 --> 00:10:07.280
  • IT'S WHEN VINCE MADE THAT STEP
  • 00:10:07.280 --> 00:10:09.060
  • THAT IT JUST SKYROCKETED.
  • 00:10:09.060 --> 00:10:11.260
  • - BOBBY: I GUESS WHAT I'M
  • 00:10:11.260 --> 00:10:12.290
  • ASKING IS: DID YOU HAVE ANY
  • 00:10:12.290 --> 00:10:14.060
  • IDEA YOU WOULD BE SUCH A HUGE
  • 00:10:14.060 --> 00:10:14.270
  • CELEBRITY?
  • 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:17.280
  • I MEAN, YOU REALLY WERE -- AND
  • 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:19.020
  • ARE -- AN AMERICAN ICON.
  • 00:10:19.020 --> 00:10:20.000
  • - TED: UH, NO.
  • 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:20.190
  • - BOBBY: YOU JUST HAD NO IDEA?
  • 00:10:20.190 --> 00:10:22.200
  • - TED: I-I-- I NEVER DID.
  • 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.140
  • UM--
  • 00:10:23.140 --> 00:10:24.180
  • - BOBBY: SO, THAT-- SEEMS TO
  • 00:10:24.180 --> 00:10:25.190
  • ME THAT THE TEMPTATIONS FOR
  • 00:10:25.190 --> 00:10:27.000
  • THAT, TOO -- I MEAN, IT JUST
  • 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.100
  • HAD TO BE SO BIG ON YOU TO NOT
  • 00:10:28.100 --> 00:10:29.250
  • KIND OF SOAK THAT ALL UP AND
  • 00:10:29.250 --> 00:10:31.060
  • SORT OF LIVE THE WORLD'S WAY.
  • 00:10:31.060 --> 00:10:32.290
  • - TED: WELL, AND IT IS.
  • 00:10:32.290 --> 00:10:34.010
  • IT'S, UM...UH, PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:10:34.010 --> 00:10:35.110
  • "WERE YOU REALLY THAT
  • 00:10:35.110 --> 00:10:37.250
  • CHARACTER?"
  • 00:10:37.250 --> 00:10:38.130
  • I SAID, "NO."
  • 00:10:38.130 --> 00:10:39.240
  • YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY -- YOU
  • 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:40.260
  • KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE ARENA, YOU
  • 00:10:40.260 --> 00:10:43.000
  • KNOW, BACK AT THE HOTEL AND
  • 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.210
  • AIRPORTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU
  • 00:10:44.210 --> 00:10:46.190
  • KNOW, I WAS--
  • 00:10:46.190 --> 00:10:47.140
  • YOU KNOW-- PEOPLE WOULD--
  • 00:10:47.140 --> 00:10:48.210
  • IT'S FUNNY -- KIDS WOULD YELL
  • 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:49.230
  • AND SCREAM AT ME, AS I'M
  • 00:10:49.230 --> 00:10:51.160
  • WALKING IN THE BUILDING.
  • 00:10:51.160 --> 00:10:52.120
  • THE SAME KIDS WOULD BE AT THE
  • 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:53.240
  • HOTEL WITH A AUTOGRAPH PAD
  • 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.220
  • WANTIN' YOUR SIGNATURE, LATER.
  • 00:10:55.220 --> 00:10:57.230
  • BUT IT-- IT WAS THE GRIND.
  • 00:10:58.150 --> 00:11:01.170
  • IT WAS THE ROAD AND WHAT ALL--
  • 00:11:01.170 --> 00:11:02.130
  • ALL THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.
  • 00:11:02.130 --> 00:11:04.050
  • AND IT JUST, UH...
  • 00:11:04.180 --> 00:11:07.180
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE--
  • 00:11:07.180 --> 00:11:08.100
  • IT'S LIKE AN OLD ROCK-AND-ROLL
  • 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:09.140
  • SONG: DRUGS, SEX, AND ROCK AND
  • 00:11:09.140 --> 00:11:10.120
  • ROLL.
  • 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:11.060
  • AND, LITERALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT
  • 00:11:11.060 --> 00:11:12.160
  • BECOMES.
  • 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:14.290
  • AND IT'S, UH...
  • 00:11:14.290 --> 00:11:15.130
  • YOU START, UH-- IF THERE'S
  • 00:11:15.130 --> 00:11:18.060
  • NOTHING IN YOUR LIFE, IF
  • 00:11:18.060 --> 00:11:19.100
  • THERE'S NO GOD IN YOUR LIFE, IF
  • 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:21.080
  • THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT
  • 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.000
  • GROUNDS YOU...
  • 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.020
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:11:24.020 --> 00:11:25.000
  • - TED: ...UH, TO DRAW YOU AWAY
  • 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:25.270
  • FROM THAT, IT'S VERY EASY TO
  • 00:11:25.270 --> 00:11:26.210
  • FALL INTO IT.
  • 00:11:26.210 --> 00:11:29.200
  • AND SO MANY GUYS DO.
  • 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:30.190
  • AND I DID.
  • 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:31.010
  • - BOBBY: IF YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:11:31.010 --> 00:11:32.260
  • JOINING US, WE'RE TALKING TO
  • 00:11:32.260 --> 00:11:34.070
  • TED DIBIASE, THE MILLION DOLLAR
  • 00:11:34.280 --> 00:11:37.280
  • MAN, WWF/WWE SUPER LEGEND, AND
  • 00:11:37.280 --> 00:11:39.240
  • WE'RE HEARING HIS STORY AND HIS
  • 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.110
  • TESTIMONY.
  • 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:42.070
  • BUT HE HAS A MOVIE THAT'S JUST
  • 00:11:42.070 --> 00:11:43.140
  • COME OUT CALLED "THE PRICE OF
  • 00:11:43.140 --> 00:11:44.140
  • FAME."
  • 00:11:44.140 --> 00:11:45.060
  • CHECK OUT A CLIP FROM THIS
  • 00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:46.050
  • GREAT FILM.
  • 00:11:46.110 --> 00:11:49.110
  • - TED: EVERY ONE OF YOU
  • 00:11:49.110 --> 00:11:49.290
  • REMEMBER ONE THING: EVERYBODY
  • 00:11:49.290 --> 00:11:52.090
  • HAS A PRICE...FOR THE MILLION
  • 00:11:52.090 --> 00:11:53.190
  • DOLLAR MAN.
  • 00:11:53.250 --> 00:11:56.250
  • [PULSATING MUSIC]
  • 00:11:56.250 --> 00:11:58.050
  • [LAUGHS WICKEDLY]
  • 00:11:58.050 --> 00:11:59.190
  • RIGHT NOW, YOU GOT EVERYTHING
  • 00:11:59.190 --> 00:12:00.210
  • YOU THOUGHT YOU EVER WANTED.
  • 00:12:00.210 --> 00:12:02.140
  • YOU'RE FAMOUS, YOU GOT MONEY,
  • 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.200
  • NICE HOUSE, BIG CAR...
  • 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.200
  • BUT WHAT DO YOU REALLY HAVE?
  • 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:13.080
  • MY FRIENDS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE
  • 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:13.290
  • ANSWER IS?
  • 00:12:13.290 --> 00:12:14.100
  • NOTHING.
  • 00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:14.270
  • NOTHING!
  • 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:15.190
  • NOTHING!
  • 00:12:15.190 --> 00:12:16.050
  • NOTHING!
  • 00:12:16.050 --> 00:12:17.140
  • BY THE GRACE OF GOD, EVERY DAY,
  • 00:12:17.140 --> 00:12:20.090
  • I TRY TO BE A MAN OF STRONG
  • 00:12:20.090 --> 00:12:22.100
  • CHARACTER...AND INTEGRITY AND
  • 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:23.010
  • OF GOD; A LOVING HUSBAND AND A
  • 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:27.160
  • CARING FATHER.
  • 00:12:27.280 --> 00:12:30.280
  • AND LIKE THAT OLD CHARACTER THE
  • 00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:31.200
  • MILLION DOLLAR MAN...ALWAYS
  • 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:32.130
  • SAYS...
  • 00:12:32.130 --> 00:12:34.090
  • - WRESTLING HOST: EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:12:34.090 --> 00:12:35.170
  • GOT A PRICE.
  • 00:12:35.170 --> 00:12:37.080
  • - WRESTLING HOST: EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:38.060
  • GOT A PRICE.
  • 00:12:38.060 --> 00:12:39.090
  • - TED: ...EVERYBODY...HAS A
  • 00:12:39.090 --> 00:12:40.060
  • PRICE.
  • 00:12:40.060 --> 00:12:41.280
  • THE PRICE OF FAME IS HIGH.
  • 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:46.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:47.150 --> 00:12:50.150
  • - BOBBY: WOW.
  • 00:12:50.150 --> 00:12:51.160
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:12:51.160 --> 00:12:52.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:12:52.020 --> 00:12:54.220
  • - BOBBY: I'M BOBBY SCHULLER.
  • 00:12:54.220 --> 00:12:55.200
  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON
  • 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:56.100
  • "PRAISE."
  • 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:56.260
  • WE'RE TALKING TO RED DIBIASE,
  • 00:12:56.260 --> 00:12:58.160
  • THE MILLION DOLLAR MAN!
  • 00:12:58.160 --> 00:12:59.130
  • AND, WHAT AN AMAZING STORY YOU
  • 00:12:59.130 --> 00:13:00.170
  • HAVE.
  • 00:13:00.170 --> 00:13:01.180
  • AND I WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT,
  • 00:13:01.180 --> 00:13:03.010
  • YOU KNOW, AS PASTOR, YOUR
  • 00:13:03.010 --> 00:13:03.240
  • TESTIMONY.
  • 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:04.210
  • YOU SEE ALL OF THIS MONEY, THIS
  • 00:13:04.210 --> 00:13:06.190
  • FAME, WOMEN.
  • 00:13:06.190 --> 00:13:08.180
  • BUT YOU HAD KIDS AT HOME, YOU
  • 00:13:08.180 --> 00:13:09.230
  • HAD A WIFE AT HOME.
  • 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:11.220
  • YOU ALMOST KINDA HAD THIS
  • 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:12.110
  • DOUBLE LIFE.
  • 00:13:12.110 --> 00:13:13.210
  • AND I IMAGINE THAT SORT OF ATE
  • 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:14.250
  • AWAY AT YOU.
  • 00:13:14.250 --> 00:13:16.030
  • TELL US A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:13:16.030 --> 00:13:17.040
  • ABOUT...ABOUT THAT, AND...
  • 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:18.150
  • - TED: UM...YEAH, IT'S--
  • 00:13:18.150 --> 00:13:20.130
  • UH, AGAIN, I-- YOU KNOW, I...
  • 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:24.140
  • PROFESSED A FAITH IN GOD SINCE
  • 00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:25.240
  • AND, ACTUALLY, I LOOK BACK AT
  • 00:13:27.130 --> 00:13:28.040
  • MY FAITH WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG
  • 00:13:28.040 --> 00:13:29.090
  • AND I CALL IT A CHILDLIKE
  • 00:13:29.090 --> 00:13:30.110
  • FAITH.
  • 00:13:30.110 --> 00:13:31.250
  • AND IT CARRIED ME THROUGH, UM--
  • 00:13:31.250 --> 00:13:33.040
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS 15 YEARS OLD
  • 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:34.270
  • AND MY DAD HAD A HEART ATTACK
  • 00:13:34.270 --> 00:13:36.050
  • AND DIED IN THE RING.
  • 00:13:36.050 --> 00:13:36.220
  • - TED: AND...WE MOVED BACK TO
  • 00:13:39.050 --> 00:13:39.290
  • THE--
  • 00:13:39.290 --> 00:13:40.080
  • - BOBBY: WERE YOU WORRIED
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:40.270
  • ABOUT THAT, BY THE WAY, WHEN
  • 00:13:40.270 --> 00:13:41.170
  • YOU WERE WRESTLING THAT MAYBE
  • 00:13:41.170 --> 00:13:42.080
  • YOU WOULD-- YOU WOULD DIE OR
  • 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.270
  • HAVE SOME KIND OF A--
  • 00:13:43.270 --> 00:13:44.190
  • - TED: NO, I DIDN'T.
  • 00:13:46.250 --> 00:13:49.250
  • I MEAN, HE WAS-- LIKE I SAID,
  • 00:13:49.250 --> 00:13:50.160
  • HE WAS 45, UH, AND HE HAD
  • 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:53.190
  • ARTERIOSCLEROSIS.
  • 00:13:53.190 --> 00:13:55.110
  • - BOBBY: SURE, YEAH.
  • 00:13:55.110 --> 00:13:57.280
  • - TED: UM, AND, UH--
  • 00:13:57.280 --> 00:13:58.190
  • BUT I DIDN'T.
  • 00:13:58.190 --> 00:13:59.030
  • AND, WELL, I MADE A PROMISE TO
  • 00:13:59.030 --> 00:13:59.240
  • MYSELF THAT I WOULDN'T STAY TOO
  • 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:00.180
  • LONG, AS WELL.
  • 00:14:00.180 --> 00:14:01.040
  • - BOBBY: BUT YOUR DAD DYING --
  • 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:02.030
  • DID THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOUR
  • 00:14:02.030 --> 00:14:02.250
  • FAITH?
  • 00:14:02.250 --> 00:14:03.110
  • OR DID IT DRAW YOU CLOSER TO
  • 00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:04.120
  • GOD OR--
  • 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:05.160
  • - TED: WELL, IT DREW ME CLOSER
  • 00:14:05.160 --> 00:14:06.220
  • TO GOD.
  • 00:14:06.220 --> 00:14:07.030
  • I-- YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME,
  • 00:14:07.030 --> 00:14:08.120
  • UM...I ENDED UP IN THIS VERY
  • 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:09.270
  • SMALL TOWN -- WILLCOX, ARIZONA.
  • 00:14:09.270 --> 00:14:10.290
  • THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
  • 00:14:10.290 --> 00:14:13.120
  • MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED THERE, MY
  • 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.230
  • MOTHER'S PARENTS.
  • 00:14:14.230 --> 00:14:15.160
  • AND I HAD THESE BIG DREAMS OF
  • 00:14:15.160 --> 00:14:17.060
  • COLLEGE- AND PROFESSIONAL
  • 00:14:17.060 --> 00:14:19.030
  • FOOTBALL AND WRESTING.
  • 00:14:19.030 --> 00:14:19.200
  • AND, UH, LOOKED AROUND THIS
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:22.220
  • LITTLE TOWN AND GO, "CAN MY
  • 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:23.190
  • DREAMS COME TRUE HERE?"
  • 00:14:23.190 --> 00:14:24.070
  • UH...AND I WASN'T SURE.
  • 00:14:24.070 --> 00:14:26.210
  • AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:14:26.210 --> 00:14:28.080
  • KIDS THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH
  • 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.180
  • THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY FOR DARING
  • 00:14:30.180 --> 00:14:31.180
  • TO DREAM LIKE THAT.
  • 00:14:31.180 --> 00:14:32.200
  • AND, UH...BUT I DIDN'T-- I
  • 00:14:32.210 --> 00:14:35.210
  • MEAN, I DIDN'T CAVE IN.
  • 00:14:35.210 --> 00:14:36.100
  • NOT MUCH TO DO IN WILCOX ON
  • 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:37.260
  • FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT.
  • 00:14:37.260 --> 00:14:39.060
  • AND IF YOU WERE PART OF THE
  • 00:14:39.060 --> 00:14:40.150
  • COOL CROWD, YOU WENT OUT AND
  • 00:14:40.150 --> 00:14:41.120
  • YOU PARTIED...ON THE WEEKENDS.
  • 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.030
  • - BOBBY: YEAH...YEAH.
  • 00:14:42.030 --> 00:14:42.290
  • - TED: WHILE THAT WAS
  • 00:14:42.290 --> 00:14:44.260
  • HAPPENING WHILE I WAS IN HIGH
  • 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:45.210
  • SCHOOL, I WAS CHASING MY DREAM.
  • 00:14:45.210 --> 00:14:47.010
  • I WAS WORKING OUT.
  • 00:14:47.010 --> 00:14:47.260
  • I WOULD GO TO THE DESERT
  • 00:14:47.260 --> 00:14:49.150
  • CEMETERY THAT WAS IN ONE OF
  • 00:14:49.150 --> 00:14:51.140
  • THOSE CLIPS AND I WOULD GO TO
  • 00:14:51.140 --> 00:14:52.290
  • MY DAD'S GRAVE AND SHINE MY
  • 00:14:52.290 --> 00:14:54.150
  • GRANDMOTHER'S-- THE HEADLIGHTS
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.220
  • OF HER CAR ON THAT GRAVE.
  • 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:57.220
  • AND I WOULD PRAY AND ASK GOD
  • 00:14:57.220 --> 00:15:00.130
  • FOR THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:15:00.130 --> 00:15:02.150
  • - BOBBY: WOW...YEAH.
  • 00:15:02.150 --> 00:15:03.050
  • - TED: "GIVE ME THE STRENGTH."
  • 00:15:03.050 --> 00:15:03.270
  • AND I WATCHED MY MOTHER SINK
  • 00:15:03.270 --> 00:15:04.170
  • INTO DESPAIR AND ALCOHOLISM.
  • 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:05.220
  • IT WAS VERY HARD, BUT I
  • 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:07.080
  • STAYED-- MY CONVICTION WAS
  • 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.280
  • TRUE.
  • 00:15:08.280 --> 00:15:11.050
  • AND THAT'S--
  • 00:15:11.050 --> 00:15:12.130
  • - BOBBY: SO, WAIT A MINUTE,
  • 00:15:12.130 --> 00:15:13.030
  • HOLD ON.
  • 00:15:13.030 --> 00:15:13.210
  • SO, WHEN YOU'RE THIS ULTIMATE
  • 00:15:13.210 --> 00:15:14.120
  • VILLAIN ON WWF AND YOU'RE
  • 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:15.160
  • KICKING KIDS' BALLS-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:15:15.160 --> 00:15:17.160
  • LITTLE BOUNCING BALLS FOR 500
  • 00:15:17.160 --> 00:15:18.210
  • BUCKS, AND PAYIN' OFF DOCTORS,
  • 00:15:18.210 --> 00:15:21.040
  • AND SAYIN' EVERYBODY HAS THEIR
  • 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:23.060
  • PRICE, WERE YOU ACTUALLY A
  • 00:15:23.060 --> 00:15:23.260
  • CHRISTIAN KIND OF AT THAT TIME?
  • 00:15:23.260 --> 00:15:25.040
  • WOULD YOU-- IF I HAD MET YOU,
  • 00:15:25.040 --> 00:15:26.110
  • WOULD YOU HAVE SAID, "I'M A
  • 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:27.010
  • CHRISTIAN"?
  • 00:15:27.010 --> 00:15:28.230
  • - TED: I WOULD HAVE SAID I WAS
  • 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:29.150
  • A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:15:29.150 --> 00:15:29.270
  • - BOBBY: WOW...
  • 00:15:29.270 --> 00:15:30.120
  • - TED: I MEAN, PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.020
  • "WELL, HOW CAN YOU DO THAT?"
  • 00:15:31.020 --> 00:15:32.240
  • I SAID, "WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE
  • 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.030
  • POINT."
  • 00:15:34.030 --> 00:15:34.150
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:15:34.150 --> 00:15:35.050
  • - TED: IT'S ROLE-PLAYING.
  • 00:15:35.050 --> 00:15:35.240
  • IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
  • 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:36.160
  • WATCH A MOVIE THERE'S A GOOD
  • 00:15:37.050 --> 00:15:40.050
  • GUY AND A BAD GUY.
  • 00:15:40.050 --> 00:15:41.150
  • - BOBBY: SO, LOOKING BACK ON
  • 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.060
  • THAT GUY, WOULD YOU SAY, NOW,
  • 00:15:42.060 --> 00:15:42.270
  • YOU WERE A CHRISTIAN OR MAYBE
  • 00:15:42.270 --> 00:15:43.180
  • YOU-- OR WHAT?
  • 00:15:43.180 --> 00:15:44.010
  • - TED: NO. NO.
  • 00:15:44.010 --> 00:15:45.220
  • NOW, IT'S-- YOU KNOW -- 'CAUSE
  • 00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:47.170
  • I PREACH IT ALL THE TIME --
  • 00:15:47.170 --> 00:15:48.120
  • THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GO
  • 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:49.100
  • TO CHURCH WHO CLAIM
  • 00:15:49.100 --> 00:15:50.140
  • CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:15:50.140 --> 00:15:52.140
  • UH...BUT THE-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:54.200
  • GENUINE CHRISTIANITY IS NOT
  • 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:55.200
  • IT'S RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:59.030
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:15:59.030 --> 00:15:59.290
  • - TED: AND IF YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:15:59.290 --> 00:16:00.200
  • WALKING IN THE INTIMACY OF THAT
  • 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:01.180
  • RELATIONSHIP...
  • 00:16:01.180 --> 00:16:02.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:16:02.020 --> 00:16:02.220
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:03.100
  • - TED: ...YOU'RE JUST
  • 00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:03.270
  • AND I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:07.170
  • AT -- YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HANG
  • 00:16:07.170 --> 00:16:08.080
  • YOUR HAT.
  • 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:08.190
  • I MEAN, MY-- YOU KNOW, MY DAD
  • 00:16:08.190 --> 00:16:09.100
  • WAS ITALIAN -- AND, ACTUALLY,
  • 00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:10.240
  • HE WAS MY STEPFATHER.
  • 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.260
  • HE CAME INTO MY LIFE WHEN I WAS
  • 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:13.240
  • 5.
  • 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:14.080
  • BUT HE WAS ITALIAN.
  • 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:14.280
  • AND, LIKE MOST ITALIANS, HE WAS
  • 00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:15.270
  • RAISED ROMAN CATHOLIC AND SO I
  • 00:16:15.270 --> 00:16:17.040
  • WAS, TOO.
  • 00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:18.170
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM...YEAH.
  • 00:16:18.170 --> 00:16:19.050
  • - TED: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:19.050 --> 00:16:19.280
  • AND I'M NOT CATHOLIC, NOW.
  • 00:16:19.280 --> 00:16:21.070
  • BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, I STILL
  • 00:16:21.070 --> 00:16:23.110
  • HAD THIS-- THIS FAITH THAT KEPT
  • 00:16:23.110 --> 00:16:25.030
  • ME GROUNDED, AT THAT TIME.
  • 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:27.200
  • BUT, MY STORY STARTS TO GO BAD
  • 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.030
  • WHEN I GO TO COLLEGE, WHEN I
  • 00:16:29.030 --> 00:16:31.030
  • GET THE SCHOLARSHIP.
  • 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:32.240
  • I GET THE COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP,
  • 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:33.270
  • I GO TO COLLEGE TO PLAY
  • 00:16:33.270 --> 00:16:34.250
  • FOOTBALL -- NOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT
  • 00:16:34.250 --> 00:16:36.250
  • TED.
  • 00:16:36.250 --> 00:16:37.130
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:38.180
  • - TED: NOW, I'VE-- GOSH, I'VE
  • 00:16:38.180 --> 00:16:39.180
  • ARRIVED.
  • 00:16:39.180 --> 00:16:42.070
  • - BOBBY: SO, THIS CHARACTER
  • 00:16:42.070 --> 00:16:42.280
  • THAT YOU'RE PLAYING, THIS
  • 00:16:42.280 --> 00:16:44.140
  • MILLION DOLLAR MAN, HOW MUCH OF
  • 00:16:44.140 --> 00:16:45.200
  • THAT IS YOU AND HOW MUCH OF IT
  • 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:46.120
  • IS NOT YOU?
  • 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:46.240
  • - TED: OH, IT'S NOT ME.
  • 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:47.200
  • - BOBBY: IT WASN'T YOU AT ALL?
  • 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.030
  • - TED: IT'S TOTALLY CHARACTER.
  • 00:16:49.030 --> 00:16:49.250
  • - BOBBY: NO, BUT, I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:50.290
  • KNOW, IS THERE ANY PART OF YOU
  • 00:16:50.290 --> 00:16:52.040
  • THAT WILL-- LIKE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:16:52.040 --> 00:16:53.140
  • BOUGHT INTO THE WHOLE MONEY
  • 00:16:53.140 --> 00:16:54.040
  • THING?
  • 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:54.200
  • OR THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR
  • 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:55.120
  • PRICE?
  • 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.230
  • OR THAT-- YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:16:56.230 --> 00:16:57.150
  • WAS THERE A LITTLE BIT--
  • 00:16:57.150 --> 00:16:58.070
  • - TED: NO...NO.
  • 00:16:58.070 --> 00:16:59.270
  • - BOBBY: TOTAL MADE-UP--
  • 00:16:59.270 --> 00:17:01.080
  • - TED: I DON'T THINK THAT ANY
  • 00:17:01.110 --> 00:17:04.110
  • OF THAT-- I DIDN'T BUY INTO ANY
  • 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:05.030
  • OF THAT, I MEAN, AND, UH...
  • 00:17:05.030 --> 00:17:05.280
  • BUT, I MEAN WHAT I WAS WAS, NOW
  • 00:17:05.280 --> 00:17:08.100
  • THAT THE FAME, THE ATTENTION
  • 00:17:08.100 --> 00:17:09.160
  • THAT WE ALL GOT, AND...
  • 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:10.040
  • YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FIRST TIME I
  • 00:17:10.040 --> 00:17:11.110
  • WALKED INTO TOYS "R" US AND SAW
  • 00:17:11.110 --> 00:17:12.280
  • MY ACTION FIGURE...
  • 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:15.120
  • - BOBBY: (LAUGHING) YEAH!
  • 00:17:15.120 --> 00:17:16.040
  • - TED: ...THAT WAS KIND OF
  • 00:17:16.040 --> 00:17:17.110
  • SURREAL.
  • 00:17:17.110 --> 00:17:17.250
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:17:17.250 --> 00:17:18.240
  • AND TO BE PUT ON VIDEO GAMES
  • 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.080
  • AND ALL THAT STUFF.
  • 00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:20.240
  • I NEVER DREAMED THAT ANY OF
  • 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:21.250
  • THOSE THINGS--
  • 00:17:21.250 --> 00:17:23.090
  • - BOBBY: I USED TO PLAY YOU ON
  • 00:17:23.090 --> 00:17:24.010
  • SUPER NINTENDO.
  • 00:17:24.010 --> 00:17:24.150
  • [TED LAUGHS]
  • 00:17:24.150 --> 00:17:24.270
  • I WAS TED DIBIASE, MAN.
  • 00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:25.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:28.260
  • - TED: I MEAN, I WAS THE GUY--
  • 00:17:28.260 --> 00:17:29.180
  • PEOPLE --
  • 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:31.230
  • I DO AUTOGRAPH SIGNINGS.
  • 00:17:31.230 --> 00:17:34.010
  • EVEN NOW, THEY GO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:34.010 --> 00:17:34.210
  • "PLEASE DON'T BE UPSET, MR.
  • 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:35.110
  • DIBIASE, BUT I HATED YOUR
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:36.020
  • GUTS!" AND I GO, "WELL, THANK
  • 00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:36.230
  • YOU -- THAT WAS MY JOB."
  • 00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:37.110
  • - BOBBY: I HEARD A HOLLYWOOD--
  • 00:17:37.110 --> 00:17:38.140
  • SOMEONE SAY ONE TIME THAT,
  • 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:39.030
  • VERY OFTEN, THE VILLAINS ARE
  • 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:44.180
  • THE NICEST PEOPLE AND
  • 00:17:44.180 --> 00:17:45.180
  • THE HEROES ARE THE MEAN
  • 00:17:45.180 --> 00:17:46.270
  • ONES IN REAL LIFE.
  • 00:17:46.270 --> 00:17:47.260
  • DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S TRUE?
  • 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:48.230
  • - TED: IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:17:48.230 --> 00:17:49.080
  • - BOBBY: IS IT TRUE?
  • 00:17:49.080 --> 00:17:50.080
  • - TED: IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:51.080
  • IT REALLY IS TRUE.
  • 00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:52.060
  • AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH--
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:53.010
  • I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:17:53.010 --> 00:17:54.020
  • I MEAN, I KNOW IF YOU'RE-- I
  • 00:17:54.020 --> 00:17:54.220
  • GUESS--
  • 00:17:54.220 --> 00:17:55.130
  • - BOBBY: SPEAKING OF VILLAINS.
  • 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:56.130
  • - TED: IN WRESTLING, WE CALL
  • 00:17:56.130 --> 00:17:57.140
  • THE VILLAIN A HEEL.
  • 00:17:57.140 --> 00:17:58.000
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:58.200
  • - TED: AND, UH, THE HEELS ARE
  • 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.210
  • USUALLY, FOR WHATEVER REASON,
  • 00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:02.130
  • ARE NICER GUYS.
  • 00:18:02.130 --> 00:18:04.100
  • I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE GOOD
  • 00:18:04.100 --> 00:18:05.100
  • GUYS ARE MORE-- YOU KNOW, THEY
  • 00:18:05.100 --> 00:18:07.010
  • WANT THE APPLAUSE--
  • 00:18:07.010 --> 00:18:08.220
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:09.060
  • - TED: --THEY WANT THE-- THEY
  • 00:18:09.060 --> 00:18:10.200
  • WANT EVERYBODY TO LOVE 'EM...
  • 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.110
  • TYPE OF THING.
  • 00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:12.030
  • BUT IT'S A BUSINESS.
  • 00:18:12.030 --> 00:18:12.260
  • - BOBBY: SO, WHEN DID YOU--
  • 00:18:12.260 --> 00:18:13.160
  • WAS THERE EVER A TIME, THEN, IN
  • 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.050
  • ALL OF THIS, THAT YOU REALLY
  • 00:18:15.050 --> 00:18:16.080
  • HIT ROCK BOTTOM?
  • 00:18:16.080 --> 00:18:17.060
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:18:17.060 --> 00:18:19.130
  • WELL, I HIT ROCK BOTTOM THE DAY
  • 00:18:19.130 --> 00:18:20.090
  • AFTER WRESTLEMANIA VIII.
  • 00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:23.150
  • IT TOOK PLACE IN INDIANAPOLIS.
  • 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:30.180
  • UM...YOU KNOW, I GOT CAUGHT UP
  • 00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:31.090
  • IN THE WHOLE DEAL.
  • 00:18:31.090 --> 00:18:31.240
  • UM...IT BECAME THE NEXT PARTY,
  • 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:32.240
  • THE NEXT, UH...YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:34.290
  • NEXT TOWN, THE NEXT PARTY.
  • 00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:35.180
  • AND, I CALLED HOME AND MY WIFE
  • 00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:38.250
  • CONFRONTED ME WITH ADULTERY.
  • 00:18:38.250 --> 00:18:39.260
  • AND, IN A FRACTION OF A SECOND,
  • 00:18:39.260 --> 00:18:42.100
  • I REALIZED...IT WAS ALMOST-- IT
  • 00:18:42.100 --> 00:18:45.050
  • WAS INSTANTANEOUS.
  • 00:18:45.050 --> 00:18:46.070
  • I MEAN, I TELL PEOPLE: GOD
  • 00:18:46.070 --> 00:18:47.150
  • TELLS US WHATEVER'S DONE IN
  • 00:18:47.150 --> 00:18:50.000
  • DARKNESS WILL BE REVEALED IN
  • 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.020
  • THE LIGHT.
  • 00:18:51.020 --> 00:18:52.190
  • IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF IF; IT'S
  • 00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:54.220
  • A QUESTION OF WHEN.
  • 00:18:54.220 --> 00:18:55.080
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:18:55.080 --> 00:18:55.270
  • - TED: AND WHEN IT HAPPENS,
  • 00:18:55.270 --> 00:18:56.170
  • YOU SEE YOURSELF...FOR WHO YOU
  • 00:18:56.170 --> 00:18:57.140
  • REALLY ARE.
  • 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:58.210
  • AND IT WAS UGLY.
  • 00:18:58.210 --> 00:19:01.000
  • - BOBBY: IT'S ALWAYS THE
  • 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:02.000
  • WORST TIME, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:02.170
  • - TED: IT WAS THE WORST.
  • 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:03.060
  • I MEAN, I REALIZED IN THAT
  • 00:19:03.060 --> 00:19:03.290
  • MOMENT THAT I HAD PUT AT RISK
  • 00:19:03.290 --> 00:19:05.100
  • THE MO-- I MEAN, THE LOVE AND
  • 00:19:05.100 --> 00:19:06.230
  • DEVOTION OF A COMMITTED WIFE,
  • 00:19:06.230 --> 00:19:08.200
  • NOT TO MENTION THE FUTURE, THE
  • 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:09.250
  • STABILITY, AND THE WELL-BEING
  • 00:19:09.250 --> 00:19:11.030
  • OF MY OWN CHILDREN.
  • 00:19:11.030 --> 00:19:12.270
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:19:12.270 --> 00:19:13.110
  • - TED: AND FOR WHAT?
  • 00:19:13.110 --> 00:19:14.040
  • AN EGO TRIP.
  • 00:19:14.040 --> 00:19:15.070
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:15.210
  • - TED: IT DOESN'T GET ANY
  • 00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:16.290
  • UGLIER THAN THAT.
  • 00:19:16.290 --> 00:19:17.220
  • - BOBBY: SO, YOUR WIFE, TOO,
  • 00:19:17.220 --> 00:19:19.010
  • IS A BIG PART OF THIS STORY.
  • 00:19:19.010 --> 00:19:20.010
  • AND SHE HAS A HUGE HEART FOR
  • 00:19:20.010 --> 00:19:21.110
  • GOD.
  • 00:19:21.110 --> 00:19:22.280
  • I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE
  • 00:19:22.280 --> 00:19:23.190
  • FILM.
  • 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:24.190
  • HOW MUCH OF HER...HER FAITH IN
  • 00:19:24.190 --> 00:19:26.100
  • GOD, HER PRAYING FOR YOU, HER
  • 00:19:26.100 --> 00:19:28.090
  • READING THE BIBLE HAD AN IMPACT
  • 00:19:28.090 --> 00:19:29.280
  • ON YOU SORT OF TURNING YOUR
  • 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:31.140
  • LIFE AROUND AND YOUR FAMILY
  • 00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:33.030
  • ENDURING THIS MESS?
  • 00:19:33.030 --> 00:19:34.170
  • - TED: WELL, I TELL PEOPLE
  • 00:19:34.170 --> 00:19:35.100
  • THIS: IF MY WIFE HAD NOT BEEN
  • 00:19:35.100 --> 00:19:36.180
  • AS GROUNDED AS SHE WAS, IF SHE
  • 00:19:36.230 --> 00:19:39.230
  • HADN'T HAD THE SOLID
  • 00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:41.050
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST
  • 00:19:41.050 --> 00:19:42.200
  • GENUINELY THAT SHE HAD AT THE
  • 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:43.280
  • TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED, I
  • 00:19:43.280 --> 00:19:45.170
  • PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE MARRIED
  • 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:46.080
  • TODAY.
  • 00:19:46.080 --> 00:19:48.200
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.140
  • - TED: UH...I MEAN, AND, UH--
  • 00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:51.140
  • AND SHE SAYS THAT.
  • 00:19:51.140 --> 00:19:52.130
  • SHE SAID, INITIALLY-- 'CAUSE,
  • 00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:53.130
  • UH, THERE'S A PIECE THAT I
  • 00:19:53.130 --> 00:19:55.010
  • THINK YOU'LL SEE WHERE MY SON
  • 00:19:55.010 --> 00:19:58.010
  • SAYS TO HER, "YOU WERE THE REAL
  • 00:19:58.010 --> 00:19:59.110
  • HERO."
  • 00:19:59.110 --> 00:20:01.270
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:20:01.270 --> 00:20:03.010
  • - TED: AND SHE GOES, "I WASN'T
  • 00:20:03.010 --> 00:20:04.040
  • A HERO, 'CAUSE I NEEDED GOD
  • 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:04.240
  • JUST AS MUCH AS YOUR FATHER
  • 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:05.230
  • DID."
  • 00:20:05.230 --> 00:20:06.120
  • SHE GOES, "I DIDN'T WANT"--
  • 00:20:06.120 --> 00:20:07.200
  • IN OTHER WORDS, SHE SAID-- SHE
  • 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.150
  • SAID, "I COULD HAVE RUN TO THE
  • 00:20:09.150 --> 00:20:10.280
  • PEOPLE WHO WOULD TELL ME WHAT I
  • 00:20:10.280 --> 00:20:12.290
  • WANTED TO HEAR AT THE TIME."
  • 00:20:12.290 --> 00:20:14.070
  • THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, "TAKE
  • 00:20:14.070 --> 00:20:15.210
  • EVERYTHING, GET OUT OF THERE."
  • 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:16.280
  • BUT SHE SAID, "INSTEAD, I RAN
  • 00:20:16.280 --> 00:20:18.220
  • TO MY, UH...TO MY CHRISTIAN
  • 00:20:18.220 --> 00:20:20.130
  • FRIENDS," AND, UH...
  • 00:20:21.270 --> 00:20:24.270
  • YOU KNOW, AND SHE SAID, YOU
  • 00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:26.110
  • KNOW, "I SERVE A GOD OF
  • 00:20:26.110 --> 00:20:27.170
  • RESTORATION, NOT DIVORCE."
  • 00:20:27.170 --> 00:20:30.060
  • AND SHE SAID, AT THE TIME --
  • 00:20:30.060 --> 00:20:32.180
  • AND SHE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE
  • 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:33.230
  • HONEST -- "I DON'T KNOW IF I'M
  • 00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:34.270
  • STRONG ENOUGH TO DO THIS."
  • 00:20:34.270 --> 00:20:35.280
  • SHE SAID, "TED, I BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:37.240
  • YOU'RE TRULY, SINCERELY SORRY.
  • 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:40.050
  • OF COURSE, I WANNA BELIEVE
  • 00:20:40.050 --> 00:20:41.020
  • THAT."
  • 00:20:41.020 --> 00:20:41.280
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM...
  • 00:20:42.180 --> 00:20:45.180
  • - TED: "AND I FORGIVE YOU.
  • 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:46.100
  • 'CAUSE GOD CALLS ON ME TO
  • 00:20:46.100 --> 00:20:47.190
  • FORGIVE.
  • 00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:48.150
  • BUT..."
  • 00:20:48.150 --> 00:20:49.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:20:49.120 --> 00:20:51.210
  • - BOBBY: THERE'S A "BUT"
  • 00:20:51.210 --> 00:20:52.100
  • COMING.
  • 00:20:52.100 --> 00:20:52.200
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:55.080
  • "BUT, I'M JUST NOT SURE I'M
  • 00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:56.180
  • STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE IT."
  • 00:20:57.040 --> 00:21:00.060
  • AND SO, SHE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN
  • 00:21:00.060 --> 00:21:01.000
  • MORE HONEST.
  • 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:01.260
  • BUT THE FACT THAT SHE WAS
  • 00:21:01.260 --> 00:21:03.020
  • WILLING...
  • 00:21:03.020 --> 00:21:04.170
  • I HAD ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND.
  • 00:21:04.170 --> 00:21:06.220
  • I HAD ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND,
  • 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:08.020
  • BY THE TIME THIS CONVERSATION
  • 00:21:08.020 --> 00:21:09.090
  • HAPPENED.
  • 00:21:09.090 --> 00:21:09.250
  • I HAD GENUINELY SAID: "OKAY,
  • 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:11.280
  • GOD, I KEEP MESSING THIS UP.
  • 00:21:11.280 --> 00:21:13.160
  • I KEEP TRYING TO DO IT MY WAY.
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.240
  • MY WAY DOESN'T WORK.
  • 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:15.280
  • YOU COME ONBOARD THIS SHIP OF
  • 00:21:15.280 --> 00:21:16.210
  • MY LIFE.
  • 00:21:16.210 --> 00:21:17.250
  • YOU TAKE THE HELM OF THE SHIP.
  • 00:21:17.250 --> 00:21:19.040
  • I'M GONNA GO WHERE YOU LEAD."
  • 00:21:19.040 --> 00:21:20.040
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:21.010
  • - TED: AND I REALLY THOUGHT
  • 00:21:21.010 --> 00:21:22.090
  • THAT I WOULD LOSE EVERYTHING.
  • 00:21:22.090 --> 00:21:23.160
  • AND THAT'S WHAT I-- AND I
  • 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:24.180
  • ACCEPTED THAT.
  • 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:25.080
  • IT'S WHAT I DESERVED.
  • 00:21:25.080 --> 00:21:26.170
  • BUT WHEN MY WIFE SAID, "I'M
  • 00:21:26.170 --> 00:21:28.170
  • GONNA TRY," I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN
  • 00:21:28.170 --> 00:21:30.150
  • TO EXPLAIN TO YOU.
  • 00:21:30.150 --> 00:21:32.130
  • 'CAUSE MY WIFE'S FORGIVENESS
  • 00:21:32.130 --> 00:21:33.180
  • AND WILLINGNESS TO TRY TO STICK
  • 00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:36.030
  • IT OUT WAS THE GREATEST
  • 00:21:36.030 --> 00:21:37.110
  • EXPRESSION OF CHRISTLIKE
  • 00:21:37.110 --> 00:21:38.200
  • FORGIVENESS THAT I'VE EVER
  • 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.180
  • KNOWN.
  • 00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:40.100
  • - BOBBY: WOW...
  • 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:41.070
  • THERE'S A GREAT CLIP IN YOUR
  • 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:42.030
  • MOVIE, INVOLVING YOUR SON AND
  • 00:21:42.030 --> 00:21:43.230
  • YOUR WIFE, THAT I THINK WILL
  • 00:21:43.230 --> 00:21:45.200
  • REALLY TOUCH PEOPLE'S HEARTS.
  • 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.050
  • LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
  • 00:21:47.050 --> 00:21:48.100
  • - TED: SURE.
  • 00:21:48.100 --> 00:21:50.140
  • - MELANIE: HEY, BABY.
  • 00:21:50.140 --> 00:21:51.010
  • - TED'S SON: HEY, BABE.
  • 00:21:51.010 --> 00:21:53.000
  • HOW ARE YOU?
  • 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:53.150
  • - MELANIE: I'M GOOD.
  • 00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:54.020
  • HOW ARE YOU?
  • 00:21:54.020 --> 00:21:54.230
  • - SON: AS YOU KNOW, I'VE
  • 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:56.080
  • BEEN-- I'VE BEEN KINDA
  • 00:21:56.080 --> 00:21:57.020
  • FOLLOWING THE STORY.
  • 00:21:57.020 --> 00:21:57.180
  • - MELANIE: YEAH...
  • 00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.120
  • - SON: AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAD
  • 00:21:58.120 --> 00:21:59.180
  • IS MY HERO.
  • 00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:01.210
  • BUT...WHAT...A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:22:01.210 --> 00:22:03.270
  • DON'T KNOW...IS THE REAL HERO.
  • 00:22:03.270 --> 00:22:04.260
  • WHEW...
  • 00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:07.010
  • [NASAL SUSPIRATION]
  • 00:22:12.140 --> 00:22:15.140
  • AND THAT'S YOU.
  • 00:22:16.060 --> 00:22:19.060
  • - MELANIE: I'M NOT ANY MORE A
  • 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:19.270
  • HERO THAN YOUR DAD...
  • 00:22:19.270 --> 00:22:22.240
  • - SON: WOW...
  • 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.190
  • - MELANIE: ...OR ANYONE ELSE
  • 00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:26.050
  • THAT, UH...TURNS TO GOD IN A
  • 00:22:26.050 --> 00:22:28.120
  • CRISIS.
  • 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:30.030
  • AND, ONE THING I'LL TELL YOU IS
  • 00:22:30.030 --> 00:22:32.260
  • THAT...I KNEW THAT I LOVED YOUR
  • 00:22:32.260 --> 00:22:34.030
  • DAD VERY MUCH.
  • 00:22:34.190 --> 00:22:37.190
  • I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THINGS
  • 00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:40.110
  • WORK OUT IN OUR MARRIAGE FOR
  • 00:22:40.110 --> 00:22:43.070
  • THE SAKE OF YA'LL.
  • 00:22:43.070 --> 00:22:45.050
  • IN MY PRAYERS THAT NIGHT, JUST
  • 00:22:45.050 --> 00:22:46.260
  • TALKIN' TO THE LORD, I SAID:
  • 00:22:46.260 --> 00:22:47.210
  • "MY HEART HAS JUST BEEN BROKEN
  • 00:22:47.210 --> 00:22:50.010
  • BEYOND REPAIR.
  • 00:22:50.110 --> 00:22:53.110
  • AND SO, IF I'M GONNA GET
  • 00:22:53.110 --> 00:22:53.290
  • THROUGH THIS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
  • 00:22:53.290 --> 00:22:54.240
  • TO GIVE ME A NEW HEART."
  • 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:22:58.230 --> 00:23:01.250
  • - BOBBY: POWERFUL STORY.
  • 00:23:02.040 --> 00:23:05.040
  • YOU KNOW, THERE'S A-- THERE'S
  • 00:23:05.040 --> 00:23:05.280
  • PROBABLY A LOT OF WOMEN TONIGHT
  • 00:23:05.280 --> 00:23:06.200
  • THAT ARE WATCHING.
  • 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:07.200
  • I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MEN,
  • 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.190
  • IT'S OUR JOB TO BE THE PASTORS
  • 00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:12.020
  • OF OUR FAMILY, TO LEAD OUR
  • 00:23:12.020 --> 00:23:13.050
  • FAMILIES SPIRITUALLY.
  • 00:23:13.050 --> 00:23:13.280
  • BUT, ALL MEN ARE WEAK.
  • 00:23:13.280 --> 00:23:15.230
  • EVERY MAN HAS HIS PRICE, AS
  • 00:23:15.230 --> 00:23:17.010
  • YOU'VE SAID, RIGHT?
  • 00:23:17.010 --> 00:23:17.190
  • - TED: MMH.
  • 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:18.170
  • - BOBBY: WHAT HAPPENS FOR
  • 00:23:18.170 --> 00:23:19.200
  • MAYBE SOME OF THE MOMS WHO ARE
  • 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.230
  • WATCHING TODAY OR THE WIVES WHO
  • 00:23:21.230 --> 00:23:22.150
  • ARE WATCHING TODAY?
  • 00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:23.100
  • THEY'RE REALLY RESONATING WITH
  • 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:24.120
  • YOUR WIFE'S STORY?
  • 00:23:24.120 --> 00:23:25.180
  • WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE THEM
  • 00:23:25.180 --> 00:23:27.220
  • AND THEIR FAMILY'S GOING
  • 00:23:27.220 --> 00:23:28.210
  • THROUGH A TOUGH TIME AND THEY
  • 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:29.220
  • HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO LEAD?
  • 00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:31.250
  • - TED: UM...YOU KNOW, I WOULD
  • 00:23:31.280 --> 00:23:34.280
  • GIVE 'EM THE SAME...ADVICE, I
  • 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:38.040
  • GUESS, THAT MY WIFE WOULD.
  • 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:40.010
  • UM...YOU HAVE TO LEAN IN TO GOD
  • 00:23:42.060 --> 00:23:45.060
  • IN THOSE SITUATIONS, UM...UH,
  • 00:23:45.060 --> 00:23:47.250
  • ESPECIALLY WHEN, UH...THINGS
  • 00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:49.140
  • AREN'T GOING WELL, AND IT
  • 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:51.010
  • DISRUPTS THE FAMILY, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:23:51.010 --> 00:23:54.010
  • NOT GETTING ALONG WELL WITH
  • 00:23:54.010 --> 00:23:55.130
  • YOUR HUSBAND OR WHATEVER.
  • 00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:56.160
  • I MEAN, UH--
  • 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:58.290
  • AND MELANIE SAID IT THIS WAY.
  • 00:23:58.290 --> 00:23:59.220
  • SHE SAID, "WHEN YOU HANG ONTO
  • 00:23:59.220 --> 00:24:01.040
  • ANGER AND BITTERNESS, IT'S LIKE
  • 00:24:01.040 --> 00:24:02.180
  • DRINKING POISON AND EXPECTING
  • 00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:03.280
  • SOMEBODY ELSE TO DIE."
  • 00:24:03.280 --> 00:24:05.290
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:24:05.290 --> 00:24:06.230
  • - TED: THE ONLY ONE SUFFERING
  • 00:24:06.230 --> 00:24:07.140
  • FROM IT IS YOU.
  • 00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:08.110
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM...GOOD.
  • 00:24:08.110 --> 00:24:10.120
  • - TED: AND WHEN JESUS SAID
  • 00:24:10.120 --> 00:24:11.150
  • FORGIVE, IT WASN'T A REQUEST;
  • 00:24:11.150 --> 00:24:12.230
  • IT WAS A COMMANDMENT.
  • 00:24:12.230 --> 00:24:14.130
  • FORGIVE AS YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:15.000
  • FORGIVEN.
  • 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.000
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:17.080
  • - TED: AND-- I MEAN, THAT'S--
  • 00:24:17.080 --> 00:24:18.200
  • AND YOU FORGIVE AND YOU FORGET.
  • 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.060
  • AND IT'S...IT'S A COMMANDMENT.
  • 00:24:21.010 --> 00:24:24.010
  • AND, UH, IT'S-- IT'S-- IT'S--
  • 00:24:24.010 --> 00:24:25.140
  • IT'S LIKE...
  • 00:24:25.140 --> 00:24:26.120
  • BUT WHEN I-- WHEN I SAY THIS IN
  • 00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:29.180
  • MY CHURCH MEETINGS, WHEN I GO
  • 00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:31.060
  • AND I EVANGELIZE, I'LL ASK THAT
  • 00:24:31.060 --> 00:24:33.230
  • QUESTION: ARE--
  • 00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:35.030
  • IS ANYBODY--
  • 00:24:35.030 --> 00:24:36.080
  • I'LL HAVE THEIR-- EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:37.190
  • EYES ARE CLOSED AND HEADS
  • 00:24:37.190 --> 00:24:38.120
  • BOWED.
  • 00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:38.270
  • HOW MANY IN THIS ROOM--
  • 00:24:38.270 --> 00:24:40.220
  • THIS IS CHURCH PEOPLE.
  • 00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:42.230
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:43.120
  • - TED: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE
  • 00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.020
  • DEALING WITH ANGER AND A
  • 00:24:44.020 --> 00:24:45.010
  • BITTERNESS AND SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:24:45.010 --> 00:24:46.060
  • YOU DON'T WANNA LET GO OF?
  • 00:24:46.060 --> 00:24:47.240
  • BUT I CHALLENGE YOU TO GIVE IT
  • 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.040
  • TO GOD, TONIGHT.
  • 00:24:49.040 --> 00:24:52.000
  • I GET MORE RESPONSE TO--
  • 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.020
  • - BOBBY: OVER ANGER AND
  • 00:24:53.020 --> 00:24:53.200
  • BITTERNESS.
  • 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.030
  • - TED: --ANGER AND BITTERNESS
  • 00:24:55.030 --> 00:24:55.240
  • THAN--
  • 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.030
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:24:56.030 --> 00:24:56.240
  • - TED: --ANY OTHER QUESTION
  • 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:57.140
  • THAT I ASK.
  • 00:24:57.140 --> 00:24:57.260
  • - BOBBY: WELL, THERE'S SO MUCH
  • 00:24:57.260 --> 00:24:58.280
  • HURT AND PAIN OUT THERE.
  • 00:24:58.280 --> 00:24:59.160
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:24:59.160 --> 00:24:59.290
  • - BOBBY: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT,
  • 00:24:59.290 --> 00:25:00.280
  • ESPECIALLY IN MARRIAGE, THAT
  • 00:25:00.280 --> 00:25:01.180
  • YOU DEDICATED YOUR LIFE TO THIS
  • 00:25:01.180 --> 00:25:02.180
  • PERSON, AND...YOU KNOW, A LOT
  • 00:25:02.180 --> 00:25:04.260
  • OF PEOPLE GO INTO MARRIAGE WITH
  • 00:25:04.260 --> 00:25:06.060
  • BIG EXPECTATIONS.
  • 00:25:06.060 --> 00:25:08.060
  • A LOT OF TIMES IN MARRIAGE,
  • 00:25:08.060 --> 00:25:09.130
  • ESPECIALLY FOR NEWLYWEDS, THEY
  • 00:25:09.130 --> 00:25:10.140
  • DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THOSE
  • 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:11.170
  • FIRST COUPLE YEARS CAN BE VERY
  • 00:25:11.170 --> 00:25:12.210
  • DIFFICULT -- VERY OFTEN GETS--
  • 00:25:12.210 --> 00:25:13.280
  • SOMETIMES IT GETS BETTER;
  • 00:25:13.280 --> 00:25:15.060
  • SOMETIMES IT GETS WORSE.
  • 00:25:15.060 --> 00:25:16.070
  • BUT I KNOW WE'VE MINISTERED TO
  • 00:25:16.070 --> 00:25:17.220
  • A LOT OF COUPLES, AND, WOULDN'T
  • 00:25:17.220 --> 00:25:18.250
  • YOU SAY, WHEN YOU'RE GOING
  • 00:25:18.250 --> 00:25:20.150
  • THROUGH THAT -- YOU KNOW AFTER
  • 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:22.040
  • THAT PHONE CALL AND ALL OF THE
  • 00:25:22.040 --> 00:25:23.110
  • SORT OF HELL THAT'S GONNA
  • 00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:24.250
  • FOLLOW AFTER THAT -- THAT MAYBE
  • 00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:25.230
  • THERE WERE TIMES IN YOUR
  • 00:25:25.230 --> 00:25:27.110
  • MARRIAGE WHERE YOU THOUGHT,
  • 00:25:27.110 --> 00:25:28.200
  • "THERE IS NO WAY THERE IS ANY
  • 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:30.140
  • SAVING OF THIS RELATIONSHIP,
  • 00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:32.080
  • MARRIAGE, FAMILY," AND YET, GOD
  • 00:25:32.080 --> 00:25:34.050
  • PULLED IT THROUGH?
  • 00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:35.210
  • IS THAT-- WAS THAT TRUE IN YOUR
  • 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:37.070
  • CASE?
  • 00:25:37.070 --> 00:25:37.250
  • I KNOW IT IS TRUE FOR A LOT OF
  • 00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.070
  • COUPLES.
  • 00:25:39.070 --> 00:25:39.200
  • - TED: UH, I-I DON'T THINK ANY
  • 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.040
  • COUPLE WHO WOULD BE ASKED THAT
  • 00:25:42.130 --> 00:25:45.130
  • QUESTION COULD HONESTLY SAY,
  • 00:25:45.130 --> 00:25:46.280
  • "I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT
  • 00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:47.240
  • GETTIN' OUT."
  • 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:49.290
  • - BOBBY: SURE. YEAH.
  • 00:25:49.290 --> 00:25:51.060
  • AND BECAUSE WE'RE HUMAN AND WE
  • 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:53.210
  • LIVE IN THE FLESH, THE FLESH IS
  • 00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:54.150
  • FOREVER ROTTEN AND WRETCHED AND
  • 00:25:54.150 --> 00:25:57.060
  • WE HAVE TO FIGHT IT EVERY DAY.
  • 00:25:57.060 --> 00:25:58.090
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:25:58.090 --> 00:26:00.020
  • - TED: UH...BUT I-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:26:00.020 --> 00:26:00.230
  • AGAIN, UM...I REMEMBER EVEN MY
  • 00:26:01.110 --> 00:26:04.110
  • PASTOR BUDDY HAL SAID, "TED,"
  • 00:26:04.110 --> 00:26:06.130
  • HE SAYS, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:26:06.130 --> 00:26:07.010
  • THINGS ARE GONNA BE GOIN' ALONG
  • 00:26:07.010 --> 00:26:09.210
  • OKAY, AND THEN, MELANIE'S GONNA
  • 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:10.260
  • SEE SOMETHING, SHE'S GONNA HEAR
  • 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.090
  • SOMETHING, AND IT'S GONNA
  • 00:26:12.090 --> 00:26:14.200
  • TRIGGER.
  • 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:15.180
  • AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE
  • 00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:17.130
  • GONNA GET A LEFT HOOK OUT OF
  • 00:26:17.130 --> 00:26:18.030
  • NOWHERE.
  • 00:26:18.030 --> 00:26:18.130
  • [SMACKING SOUND]
  • 00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:19.100
  • GRIN AND BEAR IT.
  • 00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:22.170
  • 'CAUSE, REMEMBER, THE ROOT
  • 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:23.070
  • CAUSE OF THAT ANGER WAS WHAT
  • 00:26:23.070 --> 00:26:25.060
  • YOU CAUSED.
  • 00:26:25.060 --> 00:26:27.110
  • SO, GRIN AND BEAR IT.
  • 00:26:27.110 --> 00:26:27.280
  • IF YOU NEED TO YELL, GO OUT AND
  • 00:26:27.280 --> 00:26:28.230
  • STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND
  • 00:26:28.230 --> 00:26:29.170
  • YELL."
  • 00:26:29.170 --> 00:26:30.180
  • - BOBBY: SO, WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:31.080
  • SO, YOU HAD THIS PHONE CALL
  • 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:32.030
  • WITH YOUR WIFE, THEN, AND I'M
  • 00:26:32.030 --> 00:26:33.080
  • SURE ALL OF THE STUFF JUST
  • 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:35.150
  • STARTED FALLING APART IN YOUR
  • 00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:36.260
  • LIFE.
  • 00:26:36.260 --> 00:26:37.170
  • YOU HAD YOUR CAREER, BUT YOU
  • 00:26:37.170 --> 00:26:38.230
  • HAVE YOUR FAMILY AT HOME, THESE
  • 00:26:38.230 --> 00:26:39.230
  • TWO LIVES.
  • 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:40.190
  • HOW DID YOU-- WHAT DID YOU GO
  • 00:26:40.190 --> 00:26:41.240
  • THROUGH AND HOW DID YOU, UH,
  • 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.110
  • TURN IT AROUND, OR WHAT
  • 00:26:43.110 --> 00:26:44.100
  • HAPPENED?
  • 00:26:44.100 --> 00:26:45.250
  • HOW'D YOU GET OUT OF IT?
  • 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:46.160
  • - TED: UH...WHEN MY BUDDY HAL,
  • 00:26:47.060 --> 00:26:50.060
  • PASTOR HAL, PICKED ME UP AT THE
  • 00:26:50.060 --> 00:26:52.110
  • AIRPORT, TOOK ME ON THE I-- THE
  • 00:26:52.110 --> 00:26:54.020
  • LONGEST 30-MINUTE RIDE OF MY
  • 00:26:54.020 --> 00:26:55.140
  • LIFE TO GO FACE MY WIFE.
  • 00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:56.180
  • - BOBBY: NOW, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:57.250
  • TELL ME ABOUT HAL, BECAUSE THIS
  • 00:26:57.250 --> 00:26:58.270
  • IS A GUY YOU'D KNOWN YOUR WHOLE
  • 00:26:58.270 --> 00:26:59.290
  • LIFE, RIGHT?
  • 00:26:59.290 --> 00:27:00.140
  • - TED: HAL SANTOS WALKED UP TO
  • 00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:02.110
  • ME IN A GYM IN BATON ROUGE, UH,
  • 00:27:02.110 --> 00:27:04.080
  • IN JANUARY OF 1982.
  • 00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:07.180
  • MELANIE AND I HAD JUST BEEN
  • 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:08.090
  • MARRIED.
  • 00:27:08.090 --> 00:27:09.210
  • AND, HE SAID HE'S SEEN ME ON
  • 00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:11.170
  • REGIONAL TELEVISION, UH, AND HE
  • 00:27:11.170 --> 00:27:13.230
  • SAID, "I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION
  • 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:14.290
  • FOR YOU."
  • 00:27:14.290 --> 00:27:15.130
  • I SAID, "SHOOT."
  • 00:27:15.130 --> 00:27:16.100
  • "DO YOU KNOW JESUS?"
  • 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:17.220
  • I SAID, "LET'S SIT DOWN AND
  • 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:19.020
  • TALK ABOUT THAT."
  • 00:27:19.020 --> 00:27:19.190
  • SO, I SHARED SOME OF MY STORY
  • 00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:21.100
  • WITH HAL.
  • 00:27:21.100 --> 00:27:23.020
  • AND THIS MAN OF GOD-- HE WAS A
  • 00:27:23.020 --> 00:27:24.070
  • YOUTH MINISTER AT THE TIME.
  • 00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:25.190
  • NOW, HE'S PASTOR OF THE SAME
  • 00:27:25.190 --> 00:27:26.270
  • CHURCH FOR 35 YEARS, UP NEAR
  • 00:27:26.270 --> 00:27:27.170
  • ST. LOUIS.
  • 00:27:27.170 --> 00:27:29.050
  • UH, HE JUST MADE IT A POINT TO
  • 00:27:29.110 --> 00:27:32.110
  • STAY IN TOUCH WITH ME.
  • 00:27:32.110 --> 00:27:33.170
  • FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, EVERY
  • 00:27:33.170 --> 00:27:34.220
  • NOW AND THEN, I'D GET A...A
  • 00:27:34.220 --> 00:27:36.040
  • PHONE CALL FROM PASTOR HAL.
  • 00:27:36.040 --> 00:27:38.040
  • AND HE DIDN'T BEAT ME UP WITH
  • 00:27:38.040 --> 00:27:40.010
  • RELIGION QUESTIONS: "ARE YOU
  • 00:27:40.010 --> 00:27:40.270
  • GOIN' TO CHURCH?
  • 00:27:40.270 --> 00:27:43.150
  • ARE YOU DOIN' THIS?"
  • 00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:44.020
  • I LOOK BACK AT THAT AND REALIZE
  • 00:27:44.020 --> 00:27:45.080
  • HE JUST DEMONSTRATED TO ME THE
  • 00:27:45.080 --> 00:27:46.060
  • UNCONDITIONAL LOVE OF JESUS
  • 00:27:46.060 --> 00:27:47.020
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:27:47.020 --> 00:27:48.080
  • - BOBBY: WOW.
  • 00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:48.270
  • - TED: AND IN MY DARKEST HOUR,
  • 00:27:48.270 --> 00:27:50.060
  • HE'S WHO I CALLED.
  • 00:27:50.060 --> 00:27:52.100
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S SUCH A GREAT
  • 00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:53.100
  • MESSAGE -- ISN'T IT? -- TO--
  • 00:27:53.100 --> 00:27:54.120
  • ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE THAT WANNA
  • 00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:55.080
  • SHARE THEIR FAITH THAT MAYBE
  • 00:27:55.080 --> 00:27:56.260
  • THE BEST MESSAGE YOU CAN GIVE
  • 00:27:56.260 --> 00:27:58.080
  • IS JUST BEING-- BEING-- BE A
  • 00:27:58.080 --> 00:27:59.250
  • LOVING FRIEND TO SECULAR
  • 00:27:59.250 --> 00:28:01.170
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:28:01.170 --> 00:28:02.080
  • - TED: BEING.
  • 00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:03.240
  • - BOBBY: NOT BUYING INTO THE
  • 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:04.250
  • WORLD'S WAY, BUT BEING
  • 00:28:04.250 --> 00:28:05.290
  • AVAILABLE, CALLING, BEING
  • 00:28:05.290 --> 00:28:07.190
  • CARING, BEING EMPATHETIC.
  • 00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:08.080
  • AND HE WAS THAT WAY FOR YOU ALL
  • 00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:09.190
  • THESE YEARS.
  • 00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:10.200
  • - TED: OH, MY GOSH...
  • 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:11.170
  • AND ON THAT JOURNEY TO HIS
  • 00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:13.180
  • HOUSE--
  • 00:28:13.180 --> 00:28:14.190
  • - BOBBY: SO, HE'S THE GUY,
  • 00:28:14.190 --> 00:28:15.090
  • THEN.
  • 00:28:15.090 --> 00:28:15.220
  • SO, YOU HAVE THIS PHONE CALL
  • 00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:16.120
  • WITH YOUR WIFE...
  • 00:28:16.120 --> 00:28:16.270
  • - TED: AWH!
  • 00:28:16.270 --> 00:28:17.260
  • - BOBBY: ...AND IT'S HAL THAT
  • 00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:18.170
  • SAYS, "ALL RIGHT, GET IN THE
  • 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:19.070
  • CAR, WE'RE GONNA GO...WE'RE
  • 00:28:19.070 --> 00:28:20.040
  • GONNA GO TALK TO YOUR WIFE"?
  • 00:28:20.040 --> 00:28:21.040
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:28:21.040 --> 00:28:22.040
  • AND, UH, WE BOTH FLEW IN THERE.
  • 00:28:22.040 --> 00:28:23.160
  • SHE ARRIVED AHEAD OF ME.
  • 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:24.250
  • AND, ON THE WAY TO FACE HER,
  • 00:28:24.250 --> 00:28:27.000
  • "HAL, WHAT DO I DO?"
  • 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.280
  • "JESUS SAID THE TRUTH'D SET YOU
  • 00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:31.010
  • FREE, TED.
  • 00:28:31.010 --> 00:28:32.050
  • HE NEVER SAID IT'D BE EASY OR
  • 00:28:32.050 --> 00:28:33.120
  • PAINLESS."
  • 00:28:33.120 --> 00:28:34.000
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.090
  • - TED: HE SAID, "IF YOU'LL
  • 00:28:35.090 --> 00:28:35.290
  • TRUST JESUS NOW, LIKE YOU DID
  • 00:28:35.290 --> 00:28:36.280
  • WHEN YOU WERE 15, WHEN YOUR DAD
  • 00:28:36.280 --> 00:28:38.020
  • DIED AND YOUR MOM STARTED
  • 00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:39.060
  • DRINKING," HE SAID, "HE'LL
  • 00:28:39.060 --> 00:28:41.060
  • FORGIVE YA AND HE'LL RESTORE
  • 00:28:41.060 --> 00:28:42.170
  • YA."
  • 00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:43.210
  • HE SAID, "SEE, HE NEVER LEFT
  • 00:28:43.210 --> 00:28:44.270
  • YOU; YOU LEFT HIM."
  • 00:28:44.270 --> 00:28:46.110
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:28:46.110 --> 00:28:47.080
  • - TED: "AND ALL THESE YEARS,
  • 00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:48.030
  • HE'S BEEN TRYIN' TO DRAW YOU
  • 00:28:48.030 --> 00:28:48.230
  • BACK."
  • 00:28:48.230 --> 00:28:49.150
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:28:49.150 --> 00:28:50.140
  • - TED: AND, THEN HE SAID
  • 00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:51.150
  • SOMETHING THAT...JUST REALLY
  • 00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:53.030
  • STRUCK WITH ME.
  • 00:28:53.030 --> 00:28:54.060
  • HE SAID: "REMEMBER, JESUS IS
  • 00:28:54.060 --> 00:28:55.070
  • BOTH FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN.
  • 00:28:55.070 --> 00:28:56.140
  • BEING FULLY GOD IS THE GOD WHO
  • 00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:58.110
  • PUT EVERY STAR IN THE SKY WHEN
  • 00:28:58.110 --> 00:28:59.210
  • YOU LOOK UP AT NIGHT.
  • 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:01.040
  • HE WAS THE GOD WHO KNEW WHEN
  • 00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:03.050
  • YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR FIRST AND
  • 00:29:03.050 --> 00:29:04.130
  • LAST BREATH AND EVERYTHING YOU
  • 00:29:04.130 --> 00:29:05.040
  • DO IN BETWEEN.
  • 00:29:05.040 --> 00:29:06.180
  • AND HE'S THE GOD WHO, IF YOU
  • 00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:07.080
  • WERE THE ONLY MAN WHO EVER
  • 00:29:07.080 --> 00:29:08.130
  • LIVED, STILL WOULD HAVE STEPPED
  • 00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:09.150
  • DOWN OFF THE THRONE OF HEAVEN
  • 00:29:09.150 --> 00:29:10.250
  • AND DIED ON A CROSS, JUST FOR
  • 00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:11.160
  • YOU."
  • 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:11.260
  • - BOBBY: HMH...
  • 00:29:11.260 --> 00:29:12.100
  • WOW.
  • 00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:13.130
  • - TED: AND, IN THAT MOMENT, AS
  • 00:29:13.130 --> 00:29:14.150
  • I HAD LOOKED AT MY LIFE, I HAD
  • 00:29:14.150 --> 00:29:16.220
  • MORE SUCCESS...THAN I EVER
  • 00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:18.280
  • DREAMED.
  • 00:29:18.280 --> 00:29:21.080
  • I WAS ON THE TOP OF MY GAME IN
  • 00:29:21.080 --> 00:29:23.150
  • EVERY WAY IMAGINABLE.
  • 00:29:23.150 --> 00:29:25.060
  • AND, BY THE WORLD'S STANDARD,
  • 00:29:25.060 --> 00:29:26.180
  • HUGE SUCCESS.
  • 00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.230
  • AND I TRIED TO IMAGINE A GOD
  • 00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:30.110
  • THAT BIG...WHO COULD STILL LOVE
  • 00:29:30.110 --> 00:29:32.220
  • ME, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I
  • 00:29:34.010 --> 00:29:37.010
  • HAD-- I HAD...TRAMPLED ON HIS
  • 00:29:37.010 --> 00:29:39.070
  • GRACE AND ON ALL THE THING--
  • 00:29:39.070 --> 00:29:41.040
  • HE WAS THERE FOR ME WHEN MY
  • 00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:42.130
  • FATHER DIED.
  • 00:29:42.130 --> 00:29:44.190
  • I GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP AND I
  • 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:45.190
  • WENT TO COLLEGE, AND I
  • 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:46.260
  • ABANDONED HIM.
  • 00:29:46.260 --> 00:29:47.290
  • AND, IN SPITE OF THAT, HE
  • 00:29:47.290 --> 00:29:49.130
  • BROUGHT MELANIE INTO MY LIFE
  • 00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:51.000
  • AND GAVE US TWO CHILDREN.
  • 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:51.270
  • I GOT MY SON BACK FROM MY-- A
  • 00:29:51.270 --> 00:29:52.290
  • PREVIOUS MARRIAGE.
  • 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:54.040
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:55.190
  • - TED: AND, ALL THOSE THINGS.
  • 00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:56.250
  • AND THEN, MY CAREER WAS BLESSED
  • 00:29:56.250 --> 00:29:58.070
  • BEYOND MY WILDEST DREAM OR
  • 00:29:58.070 --> 00:30:00.180
  • EXPECTATION.
  • 00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:02.030
  • AND YET, I STILL TRAMPLED THE
  • 00:30:02.030 --> 00:30:03.170
  • BLESSING.
  • 00:30:03.170 --> 00:30:04.010
  • BUT WHEN HE SAID, "HE'LL STILL
  • 00:30:04.010 --> 00:30:05.250
  • FORGIVE YOU AND RESTORE YOU,"
  • 00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:07.070
  • IT WAS OVERWHELMING.
  • 00:30:07.070 --> 00:30:09.270
  • - BOBBY: AWESOME.
  • 00:30:09.270 --> 00:30:10.130
  • - TED: IT WAS THAT MOMENT WHEN
  • 00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:11.140
  • I REALLY GOT ON BOARD.
  • 00:30:11.140 --> 00:30:12.170
  • - BOBBY: SO, THIS IS REALLY--
  • 00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:13.250
  • IT'S ALMOST-- SO, THE-- ALMOST
  • 00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:15.190
  • THE TIME WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING TO
  • 00:30:15.190 --> 00:30:17.010
  • GO HAVE THIS HARD TALK WITH
  • 00:30:17.010 --> 00:30:18.220
  • YOUR WIFE.
  • 00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:19.160
  • IS THAT SORT OF THE MOMENT
  • 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.210
  • WHERE YOU TRULY--
  • 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:21.160
  • - TED: YES.
  • 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:21.280
  • - BOBBY: --GOT SAVED?
  • 00:30:21.280 --> 00:30:22.170
  • - TED: YES.
  • 00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:23.000
  • - BOBBY: WOW!
  • 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:23.180
  • THAT'S AMAZING, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:30:23.180 --> 00:30:25.030
  • - TED: IT IS.
  • 00:30:25.030 --> 00:30:25.160
  • I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.000
  • - BOBBY: YOU THINK THIS IS,
  • 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:27.200
  • LIKE, ONE OF THE WORST DAYS OF
  • 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:28.110
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:30:28.110 --> 00:30:28.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:29.260
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:30.090
  • IT'S THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:30:30.090 --> 00:30:31.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:30:31.130 --> 00:30:31.290
  • ...YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SCRIPTURE
  • 00:30:31.290 --> 00:30:34.230
  • TELLS: NOT UNTIL A MAN COMES TO
  • 00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:37.120
  • THE END OF HIMSELF...
  • 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:38.200
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.060
  • - TED: ....YOU KNOW, HE SAYS
  • 00:30:40.060 --> 00:30:41.190
  • YOU CAN'T REASON WITH HIM.
  • 00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:42.080
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:44.100
  • - TED: UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN--
  • 00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:45.210
  • YOU KNOW, YOU PREACH ALL DAY
  • 00:30:45.210 --> 00:30:46.110
  • LONG.
  • 00:30:46.110 --> 00:30:46.280
  • BUT UNTIL A MAN COMES TO A
  • 00:30:46.280 --> 00:30:47.260
  • PLACE OF HUMILITY AND HIS
  • 00:30:47.260 --> 00:30:48.220
  • RECOGNITION OF THE NEED, HE
  • 00:30:48.220 --> 00:30:49.230
  • WON'T HEAR IT.
  • 00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:51.020
  • AND I HAD FINALLY HIT THE WALL.
  • 00:30:51.020 --> 00:30:53.050
  • - BOBBY: I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY
  • 00:30:53.050 --> 00:30:54.090
  • ONCE THAT, WHEN YOU HIT ROCK
  • 00:30:54.090 --> 00:30:55.250
  • BOTTOM, THAT ROCK IS JESUS.
  • 00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:57.050
  • - TED: IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:30:57.050 --> 00:30:59.030
  • - BOBBY: I THINK-- THERE'S
  • 00:30:59.030 --> 00:31:00.110
  • SOMETHING ABOUT THESE TIMES,
  • 00:31:00.110 --> 00:31:01.010
  • YOU KNOW, WHERE...WE-- MAYBE
  • 00:31:01.010 --> 00:31:02.290
  • YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN THE
  • 00:31:02.290 --> 00:31:05.170
  • WORLD.
  • 00:31:05.170 --> 00:31:06.140
  • YOU'RE FAMOUS, YOU'RE RICH,
  • 00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.070
  • EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU.
  • 00:31:08.070 --> 00:31:08.230
  • UH, YOU NOW HAVE THESE GIRLS
  • 00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:11.230
  • AND YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE
  • 00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:15.120
  • -- THE BOOZE, WHATEVER.
  • 00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:16.000
  • AND YET, JUST THIS INNER
  • 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:16.260
  • DESPERATION, INNER
  • 00:31:16.260 --> 00:31:17.110
  • INSATIABILITY.
  • 00:31:17.110 --> 00:31:18.240
  • AND YOU LOSE IT ALL.
  • 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.120
  • DID YOU-- I MEAN, I WONDER IF
  • 00:31:20.120 --> 00:31:22.050
  • THERE WAS ANY PART OF YOU THAT
  • 00:31:22.050 --> 00:31:23.040
  • FELT A SENSE OF RELIEF?
  • 00:31:23.040 --> 00:31:24.050
  • OR A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW: I'M
  • 00:31:24.050 --> 00:31:27.010
  • GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON WHAT
  • 00:31:27.010 --> 00:31:28.100
  • REALLY MATTERS.
  • 00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:34.040
  • - TED: WELL, THE--
  • 00:31:34.040 --> 00:31:34.220
  • - BOBBY: SO, I MEAN, LIKE,
  • 00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:35.120
  • WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR
  • 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:36.030
  • HEAD?
  • 00:31:36.030 --> 00:31:36.150
  • - TED: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:37.060
  • WAS A RELIEF WAS THE FACT THAT,
  • 00:31:37.060 --> 00:31:38.110
  • YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS NOTHING
  • 00:31:38.110 --> 00:31:39.180
  • HIDDEN ANYMORE.
  • 00:31:39.180 --> 00:31:42.160
  • - BOBBY: YES...YEAH.
  • 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.100
  • - TED: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:31:43.100 --> 00:31:44.120
  • - BOBBY: RIGHT?
  • 00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:44.280
  • - TED: BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER
  • 00:31:44.280 --> 00:31:46.040
  • BURDEN YOU CARRY WHEN YOU LIVE
  • 00:31:46.040 --> 00:31:46.250
  • IN DECEIT.
  • 00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:48.000
  • AND, UH, THE FACT THAT, YOU
  • 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.040
  • KNOW, THERE WASN'T-- IT WAS ALL
  • 00:31:50.040 --> 00:31:51.150
  • OUT IN THE OPEN, NOW.
  • 00:31:51.150 --> 00:31:52.180
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:53.210
  • - TED: THAT WAS A RELIEF.
  • 00:31:53.210 --> 00:31:55.130
  • UM...BUT MY...YOU KNOW...WHEN I
  • 00:31:55.130 --> 00:31:57.190
  • WENT TO FACE MELANIE, THAT WAS
  • 00:31:58.150 --> 00:32:01.170
  • THE HARDEST THING I'VE EVER
  • 00:32:01.170 --> 00:32:02.230
  • DONE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:03.220
  • I COULDN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF THE
  • 00:32:03.220 --> 00:32:05.170
  • FLOOR.
  • 00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:06.000
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.150
  • - TED: I COULDN'T LOOK HER IN
  • 00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:08.060
  • THE FACE.
  • 00:32:08.060 --> 00:32:08.230
  • AND, UH, I ANSWERED HER
  • 00:32:08.230 --> 00:32:10.210
  • QUESTIONS AS HONESTLY AS I
  • 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:11.160
  • COULD AND WATCHED HER WALK OUT
  • 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:12.070
  • OF THE ROOM IN TEARS.
  • 00:32:12.070 --> 00:32:14.190
  • - BOBBY: (SYMPATHETICALLY)
  • 00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:15.090
  • OH...
  • 00:32:15.090 --> 00:32:15.180
  • - TED: SHE LOOKED BACK AT ME
  • 00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:16.170
  • AND SHE SAID, "WHO ARE YOU,
  • 00:32:16.170 --> 00:32:17.180
  • TED, AND WHERE'S THE MAN I
  • 00:32:17.180 --> 00:32:18.070
  • THOUGHT I MARRIED?"
  • 00:32:18.070 --> 00:32:19.130
  • - BOBBY: WOW.
  • 00:32:19.130 --> 00:32:20.010
  • - TED: AND, UM...
  • 00:32:20.010 --> 00:32:21.050
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S HARD.
  • 00:32:21.050 --> 00:32:21.220
  • - TED: YOU KNOW, AND
  • 00:32:21.220 --> 00:32:22.180
  • THAT...THAT...THE SCRIPTURE
  • 00:32:22.180 --> 00:32:25.050
  • THAT I READ THAT I FEEL IS
  • 00:32:25.050 --> 00:32:27.100
  • SIMILAR TO THAT--
  • 00:32:27.100 --> 00:32:29.230
  • WHAT MY WIFE WAS SAYING WAS:
  • 00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:32.040
  • "WHERE'S THE GUY WHO STOOD
  • 00:32:32.040 --> 00:32:33.290
  • BEFORE GOD AND WITNESSES AND
  • 00:32:33.290 --> 00:32:35.070
  • TOOK A VOW TO LOVE, HONOR, AND
  • 00:32:35.070 --> 00:32:37.110
  • CHERISH ME?
  • 00:32:37.110 --> 00:32:38.070
  • YOU PLEDGED YOUR-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:32:38.070 --> 00:32:40.130
  • YOU GAVE YOUR WORD."
  • 00:32:40.130 --> 00:32:42.190
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:32:42.190 --> 00:32:43.150
  • - TED: JESUS SAID -- MATTHEW
  • 00:32:43.150 --> 00:32:44.250
  • 7:21 -- JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY,
  • 00:32:44.250 --> 00:32:46.140
  • "LORD, LORD," DOESN'T MEAN
  • 00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:48.230
  • YOU'LL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF
  • 00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:49.180
  • HEAVEN, BUT ONLY HE WHO DOES
  • 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:50.280
  • "THE WILL OF MY FATHER..."
  • 00:32:50.280 --> 00:32:51.220
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:52.120
  • - TED: "MANY WILL COME IN THE
  • 00:32:52.120 --> 00:32:53.150
  • DAY AND SAY, 'LORD, DID WE NOT
  • 00:32:53.150 --> 00:32:54.070
  • PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME AND IN
  • 00:32:54.070 --> 00:32:55.090
  • YOUR NAME DRIVE OUT DEMONS AND
  • 00:32:55.090 --> 00:32:56.140
  • DO MANY MIRACLES?'
  • 00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:57.070
  • THEN, I'LL TELL THEM PLAINLY I
  • 00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:58.100
  • NEVER KNEW YOU."
  • 00:32:58.100 --> 00:32:59.110
  • WOW.
  • 00:32:59.110 --> 00:33:02.030
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:33:02.030 --> 00:33:02.200
  • - TED: I MEAN, IT'S LIKE...I
  • 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.000
  • REALIZED THAT ALL THAT TIME,
  • 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.220
  • EVEN THOUGH I...INTELLECTUALLY
  • 00:33:07.290 --> 00:33:10.290
  • BELIEVED THE GOSPEL MESSAGE...
  • 00:33:10.290 --> 00:33:12.150
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:33:12.150 --> 00:33:13.020
  • - TED: ...I BELIEVED IN JESUS,
  • 00:33:13.020 --> 00:33:14.070
  • AND I WANTED WHAT GOD HAD
  • 00:33:14.070 --> 00:33:16.130
  • TO OFFER, WHAT I KEPT
  • 00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:18.150
  • DOING, THOUGH, WAS SAYING
  • 00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:20.040
  • TO GOD -- NOT BY IN WORD, BUT
  • 00:33:20.040 --> 00:33:22.010
  • IN ACTION -- "I WANT IT, LORD,
  • 00:33:22.010 --> 00:33:23.080
  • BUT I WANT IT MY WAY."
  • 00:33:23.080 --> 00:33:24.170
  • - BOBBY: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:33:24.170 --> 00:33:25.090
  • - TED: BUT IT--
  • 00:33:25.090 --> 00:33:26.210
  • - BOBBY: DON'T YOU THINK IT'S
  • 00:33:26.210 --> 00:33:27.170
  • IMPORTANT, TOO-- I MEAN, WHEN
  • 00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:29.010
  • YOU'RE THINKING OF WOMEN, YOU
  • 00:33:29.010 --> 00:33:31.090
  • KNOW, MOMS, OR WIVES THAT ARE
  • 00:33:31.090 --> 00:33:32.120
  • GOING THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE
  • 00:33:32.120 --> 00:33:33.030
  • THIS.
  • 00:33:33.030 --> 00:33:33.120
  • IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT SHE
  • 00:33:33.120 --> 00:33:34.210
  • CONFRONTED YOU, THAT SHE DIDN'T
  • 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:36.010
  • PUT IT UNDER THE RUG.
  • 00:33:36.010 --> 00:33:37.210
  • OR, EVEN AFTER SHE CONFRONTED
  • 00:33:37.210 --> 00:33:38.190
  • YOU, SHE WAS LIKE, "IT'S
  • 00:33:38.190 --> 00:33:39.170
  • OKAY -- LET'S JUST GET IT
  • 00:33:39.170 --> 00:33:40.130
  • BETTER," BUT SHE SAID, "YOU'RE
  • 00:33:40.130 --> 00:33:41.040
  • NOT THE MAN I MARRIED; YOU
  • 00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:42.070
  • BROKE YOUR PROMISE; YOU BROKE
  • 00:33:42.070 --> 00:33:43.200
  • YOUR COVENANT."
  • 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.150
  • IT'S GOOD FOR-- FOR WOMEN--
  • 00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:46.060
  • - TED: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:33:46.060 --> 00:33:47.130
  • - BOBBY: --TO DO THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:48.160
  • FOR WIVES TO DO THAT TO
  • 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.120
  • HUSBANDS, TO BE HONEST -- NOT--
  • 00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:50.170
  • NOT, YOU KNOW-- THERE'S NOT A--
  • 00:33:50.170 --> 00:33:53.000
  • WE ALWAYS--
  • 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.210
  • MAYBE THEY THINK IT'S MEAN OR
  • 00:33:55.210 --> 00:33:58.130
  • IT'S GONNA RUIN MY MARRIAGE,
  • 00:33:58.130 --> 00:33:59.030
  • BUT SOMETIMES BEING HONEST WITH
  • 00:33:59.030 --> 00:33:59.250
  • YOUR HUSBAND OR WIFE,
  • 00:33:59.250 --> 00:34:00.140
  • ESPECIALLY WIVES TO HUSBANDS,
  • 00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:01.120
  • CAN BE ONE OF THE BEST THINGS
  • 00:34:01.120 --> 00:34:02.080
  • FOR A MARRIAGE, DON'T YOU
  • 00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:02.280
  • THINK?
  • 00:34:02.280 --> 00:34:03.120
  • - TED: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:04.090
  • OH, MY GOSH.
  • 00:34:04.090 --> 00:34:04.230
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:34:04.230 --> 00:34:07.100
  • I MEAN, MY WIFE'S HONESTY WITH
  • 00:34:07.100 --> 00:34:08.130
  • ME, THE FACT THAT SHE SAID,
  • 00:34:08.130 --> 00:34:10.110
  • "I'M NOT SURE I CAN MAKE IT,
  • 00:34:10.110 --> 00:34:12.090
  • BUT I'M GONNA TRY"...
  • 00:34:12.230 --> 00:34:15.230
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:34:15.230 --> 00:34:16.260
  • - TED: AND SHE SAID THIS, TOO
  • 00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:17.170
  • -- SHE SAID: "I WANNA BE
  • 00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:19.130
  • OBEDIENT TO THE STILL SMALL
  • 00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:22.040
  • VOICE IN MY HEART THAT SAYS:
  • 00:34:22.040 --> 00:34:23.110
  • GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE.
  • 00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:24.270
  • I WANNA BE OBEDIENT TO JESUS."
  • 00:34:24.270 --> 00:34:26.160
  • AND SHE SAID, "I'M NOT DOING
  • 00:34:26.160 --> 00:34:27.230
  • THIS FOR YOU."
  • 00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:28.260
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:29.160
  • - TED: "YOU DON'T DESERVE IT."
  • 00:34:29.160 --> 00:34:30.170
  • - BOBBY: (LAUGHING) YES.
  • 00:34:30.170 --> 00:34:31.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:31.060 --> 00:34:32.250
  • - TED: "I'M DOING IT FOR GOD.
  • 00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:33.160
  • BECAUSE, THAT RELATIONSHIP"--
  • 00:34:33.160 --> 00:34:34.270
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:34:34.270 --> 00:34:35.110
  • - TED: SHE GOES, "YOU KNOW,
  • 00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:36.290
  • THE OTHER THING THAT THAT HAS
  • 00:34:36.290 --> 00:34:38.140
  • HINDERED IN MY LIFE..." -- IS
  • 00:34:38.140 --> 00:34:39.160
  • WHAT SHE WAS SAYING IS --
  • 00:34:39.160 --> 00:34:40.170
  • "...YOU KNOW, MY RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:41.240
  • WITH GOD HAS BEEN RATTLED
  • 00:34:41.240 --> 00:34:43.090
  • BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WANTED TO DO
  • 00:34:43.090 --> 00:34:44.150
  • THE RIGHT THING."
  • 00:34:44.150 --> 00:34:45.270
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:34:45.270 --> 00:34:46.150
  • SO, HOW DID YOU GUYS GET YOUR
  • 00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:48.200
  • MARRIAGE BACK ON TRACK?
  • 00:34:48.200 --> 00:34:49.260
  • I MEAN, YOU-- YOU...I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.090
  • HAD THIS HORRIBLE THING, SHE
  • 00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:54.050
  • STORMS OUT, SHE SAYS, "YOU'RE
  • 00:34:54.050 --> 00:34:55.130
  • NOT THE MAN I MARRIED."
  • 00:34:55.130 --> 00:34:56.080
  • YOU'RE THINKING, "THAT DIDN'T
  • 00:34:56.080 --> 00:34:57.120
  • GO VERY WELL," AND WONDERING...
  • 00:34:57.120 --> 00:34:59.110
  • AND NOW -- HERE, YOU GUYS--
  • 00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:01.090
  • YOU'RE CLOSE, YOUR FAMILY IS
  • 00:35:01.090 --> 00:35:02.100
  • TIGHT, YOU GUYS LOVE THE LORD.
  • 00:35:02.100 --> 00:35:04.200
  • I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM-- I
  • 00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:05.100
  • MEAN, I IMAGINE, THAT DAY, YOU
  • 00:35:05.150 --> 00:35:08.150
  • PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY
  • 00:35:08.150 --> 00:35:10.060
  • DOUBTFUL THAT THE OUTCOME THAT
  • 00:35:10.060 --> 00:35:11.120
  • YOU HAVE TODAY WOULD HAVE COME
  • 00:35:11.120 --> 00:35:13.030
  • TO PASS, HUH?
  • 00:35:13.030 --> 00:35:13.270
  • - TED: THAT DAY, I WAS VERY
  • 00:35:13.270 --> 00:35:15.080
  • DOUBTFUL.
  • 00:35:15.080 --> 00:35:15.240
  • - TED: UM...PASTOR HAL ASKED
  • 00:35:17.140 --> 00:35:18.220
  • US TO GO ALONG WITH HIM ON THIS
  • 00:35:18.220 --> 00:35:20.080
  • TRIP WITH HIS YOUTH GROUP TO
  • 00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:21.120
  • CHICAGO -- THE THING CALLED THE
  • 00:35:21.120 --> 00:35:22.160
  • ASCENSION CONVENTION.
  • 00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:24.140
  • SO, ON THE WAY UP TO CHICAGO,
  • 00:35:24.140 --> 00:35:26.170
  • I READ THIS BOOK BY ED COLE,
  • 00:35:26.170 --> 00:35:29.050
  • "MAXIMIZED MANHOOD.
  • 00:35:29.050 --> 00:35:30.120
  • THAT BOOK JUST BEAT ME UP.
  • 00:35:30.120 --> 00:35:32.100
  • - BOBBY: IT'S A GREAT BOOK,
  • 00:35:32.100 --> 00:35:33.230
  • YEAH.
  • 00:35:33.230 --> 00:35:35.200
  • - TED: IT TALKED ABOUT--
  • 00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:36.090
  • DR. COLE SAYS: MANHOOD
  • 00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:37.110
  • AND CHRISTLIKENESS ARE
  • 00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:38.160
  • THE MORE CHRISTLIKE YOU ARE IN
  • 00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:41.140
  • CHARACTER, THE MORE MAN YOU
  • 00:35:41.140 --> 00:35:42.040
  • ARE.
  • 00:35:42.040 --> 00:35:42.190
  • - BOBBY: MMH.
  • 00:35:42.190 --> 00:35:43.050
  • - TED: A REAL MAN IS A MAN OF
  • 00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:43.260
  • HIS WORD.
  • 00:35:43.260 --> 00:35:44.120
  • HE'S ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS WORD.
  • 00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:45.030
  • AND IF HIS WORD'S NO GOOD, HE'S
  • 00:35:45.030 --> 00:35:45.250
  • WORTHLESS.
  • 00:35:45.250 --> 00:35:47.070
  • - BOBBY: AMEN!
  • 00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:47.240
  • - TED: A REAL MAN IS A
  • 00:35:47.240 --> 00:35:48.120
  • SPIRITUAL LEADER IN HIS HOME.
  • 00:35:48.120 --> 00:35:49.100
  • - BOBBY: YEP.
  • 00:35:49.100 --> 00:35:49.270
  • - TED: A REAL MAN IS A MAN OF
  • 00:35:49.270 --> 00:35:51.020
  • STRONG CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY.
  • 00:35:51.020 --> 00:35:51.240
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:52.170
  • - TED: NOW, I'M READING THIS
  • 00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:53.080
  • BOOK AND WANNA CRAWL UNDER A
  • 00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:53.290
  • ROCK.
  • 00:35:53.290 --> 00:35:54.260
  • - BOBBY: (LAUGHING) YEAH.
  • 00:35:54.260 --> 00:35:55.150
  • - TED: AND I--
  • 00:35:55.150 --> 00:35:55.290
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:35:55.290 --> 00:35:56.240
  • IT'S GOOD, THOUGH!
  • 00:35:56.240 --> 00:35:57.200
  • - TED: --HEAR THE VOICE OF
  • 00:35:57.200 --> 00:35:58.100
  • GOD...
  • 00:35:58.100 --> 00:35:58.200
  • AT THAT MOMENT, THAT VOICE IN
  • 00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:01.160
  • MY HEART SAID, "TED," -- AND
  • 00:36:01.250 --> 00:36:04.250
  • THIS WAS LIKE THE SLAP IN THE
  • 00:36:04.250 --> 00:36:07.050
  • FACE, THE WAKE-UP CALL -- "YOU
  • 00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:08.170
  • WERE A BIGGER MAN WHEN YOU WERE
  • 00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:10.000
  • 15 YEARS OLD WHEN YOU CRIED OUT
  • 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.020
  • TO ME IN THE DESERT CEMETERY
  • 00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:13.050
  • THAN YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:14.070
  • AND, RIGHT NOW, YOU GOT
  • 00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:16.040
  • EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU EVER
  • 00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:18.160
  • WANTED.
  • 00:36:18.160 --> 00:36:19.160
  • WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT MATTERS?
  • 00:36:19.160 --> 00:36:20.120
  • NOTHING."
  • 00:36:20.120 --> 00:36:21.020
  • - BOBBY: YEAH...GOOD, GOOD.
  • 00:36:21.020 --> 00:36:21.230
  • - TED: 'CAUSE WITHOUT THE LOVE
  • 00:36:21.230 --> 00:36:22.150
  • AND DEVOTION OF MY WIFE, AND
  • 00:36:22.150 --> 00:36:23.050
  • THE RESPECT OF MY WIFE AND MY
  • 00:36:23.050 --> 00:36:23.260
  • CHILDREN, WHAT DO I HAVE?
  • 00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:24.180
  • NOTHIN'.
  • 00:36:24.180 --> 00:36:27.050
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:36:27.050 --> 00:36:28.080
  • WELL, IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING
  • 00:36:28.080 --> 00:36:29.060
  • US, I'M BOBBY SCHULLER, THE
  • 00:36:29.060 --> 00:36:29.260
  • HOST OF "HOUR OF POWER," AND
  • 00:36:29.260 --> 00:36:30.290
  • I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE ON
  • 00:36:30.290 --> 00:36:31.250
  • "PRAISE" WITH TED DIBIASE, THE
  • 00:36:31.250 --> 00:36:33.170
  • MILLION DOLLAR MAN!
  • 00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:34.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:36:34.150 --> 00:36:35.030
  • AND, UH...THIS IS AN AMAZING
  • 00:36:35.030 --> 00:36:37.180
  • STORY.
  • 00:36:37.180 --> 00:36:38.200
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:36:38.200 --> 00:36:39.210
  • INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:40.050
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT...WE'RE
  • 00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.170
  • TALKING ABOUT HOW, DURING YOUR
  • 00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:49.030
  • CAREER, YOU HAD THIS LOVING
  • 00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:49.250
  • WIFE AT HOME, THESE KIDS, AND,
  • 00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:50.160
  • UH...AND YOU BETRAYED THEM, AND
  • 00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:51.210
  • THE WAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:36:51.210 --> 00:36:53.060
  • CONFRONTED YOU THROUGH THESE
  • 00:36:53.060 --> 00:36:54.160
  • BOOKS AND THROUGH FRIENDS OF
  • 00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:55.280
  • YOURS AND THE WAY YOU SAVED YOU
  • 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:56.290
  • MARRIAGE.
  • 00:36:56.290 --> 00:36:59.090
  • THERE'S A GREAT, UH, MOVIE OUT
  • 00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:00.290
  • THAT'S ON TBN ABOUT TED'S LIFE
  • 00:37:00.290 --> 00:37:02.050
  • CALLED "THE PRICE OF FAME."
  • 00:37:02.220 --> 00:37:05.220
  • AND, WE HAVE A GREAT CLIP,
  • 00:37:05.220 --> 00:37:07.200
  • ACTUALLY, ABOUT YOUR WIFE AND
  • 00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:08.200
  • THIS SORT OF TIME OF
  • 00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:09.140
  • FORGIVENESS.
  • 00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:10.090
  • CHECK THIS OUT.
  • 00:37:10.090 --> 00:37:12.080
  • - MELANIE: I WAS FORGIVEN WHEN
  • 00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:14.160
  • I MADE THE DECISION TO FOLLOW
  • 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:16.110
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:37:16.110 --> 00:37:18.130
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:37:18.130 --> 00:37:19.250
  • GOD FORGAVE ME OF EVERYTHING
  • 00:37:19.250 --> 00:37:21.250
  • THAT I HAD EVER DONE --
  • 00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:23.110
  • EVERYTHING THAT I EVER WOULD
  • 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.110
  • DO.
  • 00:37:25.290 --> 00:37:28.290
  • HE DID THE SAME THING FOR TED.
  • 00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:32.150
  • AND...WE ARE TO FORGIVE AS GOD
  • 00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:33.060
  • FORGIVES.
  • 00:37:33.060 --> 00:37:34.190
  • WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE:
  • 00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:35.080
  • "WELL, THAT REALLY HURT ME
  • 00:37:35.080 --> 00:37:36.020
  • REALLY BAD.
  • 00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:36.200
  • I'M NOT GONNA FORGIVE THAT."
  • 00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:38.070
  • "I DID THAT TO HER.
  • 00:37:39.220 --> 00:37:42.220
  • I CAN'T FORGIVE MYSELF."
  • 00:37:42.220 --> 00:37:44.270
  • TOO BAD, SO SAD -- IT DOESN'T
  • 00:37:44.270 --> 00:37:46.110
  • WORK THAT WAY.
  • 00:37:46.110 --> 00:37:48.000
  • YOU DON'T GET TO PICK AND
  • 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.090
  • CHOOSE.
  • 00:37:49.090 --> 00:37:49.250
  • WHEN YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW
  • 00:37:49.250 --> 00:37:51.270
  • CHRIST, YOU EITHER DO IT OR YOU
  • 00:37:51.270 --> 00:37:52.190
  • DON'T.
  • 00:37:52.190 --> 00:37:54.040
  • - TED: AND, UH...I'M SURE I
  • 00:37:55.250 --> 00:37:58.250
  • SAY THIS JUST ABOUT EVERY
  • 00:37:58.250 --> 00:38:01.160
  • CHURCH I SPEAK IN, BUT, THIS IS
  • 00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:02.080
  • THE LAST PLACE -- AND I DON'T
  • 00:38:02.080 --> 00:38:04.260
  • MEAN YOUR CHURCH; I MEAN THIS
  • 00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:07.040
  • PLACE HERE, THE PULPIT -- THE
  • 00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:07.250
  • LAST PLACE THAT TED DIBIASE
  • 00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:09.080
  • EVER THOUGHT HE WOULD BE.
  • 00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:13.260
  • BUT GOD HAD A PLAN FOR MY LIFE.
  • 00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:15.180
  • IT JUST TOOK ME 38 YEARS TO BE
  • 00:38:15.180 --> 00:38:16.090
  • ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
  • 00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:18.100
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:38:18.100 --> 00:38:19.020
  • - BOBBY: WOW...
  • 00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:19.160
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:38:19.160 --> 00:38:20.170
  • POWERFUL.
  • 00:38:21.020 --> 00:38:24.020
  • WWF LEGEND, MILLION DOLLAR
  • 00:38:24.020 --> 00:38:25.210
  • MAN, TED DIBIASE IN A PULPIT
  • 00:38:25.210 --> 00:38:26.110
  • PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD --
  • 00:38:26.110 --> 00:38:28.250
  • YOU NEVER THOUGHT THAT DAY
  • 00:38:28.250 --> 00:38:29.160
  • WOULD COME.
  • 00:38:32.040 --> 00:38:35.040
  • - TED: UH, YOU KNOW, I...I
  • 00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:35.240
  • NEVER IMAGINED THAT IN MY
  • 00:38:35.240 --> 00:38:37.060
  • WILDEST DREAM.
  • 00:38:37.060 --> 00:38:38.190
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED ABOUT,
  • 00:38:40.020 --> 00:38:40.240
  • "WELL, HOW DID IT GO?"
  • 00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:41.110
  • AND, YOU KNOW, AND I TELL
  • 00:38:42.180 --> 00:38:45.180
  • PEOPLE: YOU KNOW...YOU KNOW, WE
  • 00:38:45.180 --> 00:38:46.100
  • LIVE IN A CULTURE TODAY WHERE
  • 00:38:46.100 --> 00:38:47.010
  • WE WANT MCDONALD'S SERVICE ALL
  • 00:38:47.010 --> 00:38:47.220
  • THE TIME OR MICROWAVE, YOU
  • 00:38:47.220 --> 00:38:48.150
  • WE WANT IT NOW, WE WANT IT
  • 00:38:51.090 --> 00:38:51.280
  • QUICK.
  • 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:52.070
  • - BOBBY: YEP.
  • 00:38:52.070 --> 00:38:52.200
  • - TED: BUT, UH, THAT'S NOT
  • 00:38:52.200 --> 00:38:53.100
  • WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET WITH GOD.
  • 00:38:53.100 --> 00:38:54.020
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE MORE
  • 00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:54.220
  • LIKE THE CROCK-POT.
  • 00:38:54.220 --> 00:38:55.230
  • YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO--
  • 00:38:55.230 --> 00:38:56.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:38:56.110 --> 00:38:56.270
  • YOU KNOW, THAT MEAT'S ALWAYS
  • 00:38:56.270 --> 00:38:58.220
  • BETTER WHEN YOU LET HER
  • 00:38:58.220 --> 00:39:00.130
  • SIMMER--
  • 00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:01.210
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:39:01.210 --> 00:39:02.110
  • - TED: --YOU KNOW, AND YOU EAT
  • 00:39:02.110 --> 00:39:03.030
  • IT AFTER IT'S BEEN IN THERE
  • 00:39:03.030 --> 00:39:03.230
  • FIVE HOURS.
  • 00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:04.050
  • - BOBBY: WELL, THAT'S A GOOD
  • 00:39:04.050 --> 00:39:04.260
  • WORD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT JESUS
  • 00:39:04.260 --> 00:39:05.180
  • SAYS, RIGHT?
  • 00:39:05.180 --> 00:39:06.000
  • HE SAYS THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD
  • 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.170
  • IS ESSENTIALLY LIKE FARMING,
  • 00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:09.070
  • THAT WHEN THE SEED FALLS ON
  • 00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:09.270
  • GOOD SOIL, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES
  • 00:39:09.270 --> 00:39:10.180
  • DEEP ROOT.
  • 00:39:10.180 --> 00:39:12.130
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, PLANTS TAKE A
  • 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:13.030
  • LONG TIME TO GROW.
  • 00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:13.180
  • A MARRIAGE TAKES A LONG TIME TO
  • 00:39:13.180 --> 00:39:14.100
  • SAVE.
  • 00:39:14.100 --> 00:39:15.170
  • A SOUL TAKES A LONG TIME TO BE
  • 00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:16.120
  • REFORMED.
  • 00:39:16.120 --> 00:39:18.270
  • THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO
  • 00:39:18.270 --> 00:39:19.240
  • BE-- HAVE PATIENCE WITH, UH?
  • 00:39:19.240 --> 00:39:21.010
  • - TED: SO, AS MELANIE BEGAN TO
  • 00:39:21.010 --> 00:39:21.270
  • SEE ME TAKE THE HELM OF THE
  • 00:39:22.220 --> 00:39:25.220
  • SHIP -- YOU KNOW, SHE'D GET UP
  • 00:39:25.220 --> 00:39:27.120
  • IN THE MORNING; NOW, I'M
  • 00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:28.130
  • SITTIN' AT THE KITCHEN TABLE
  • 00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:29.120
  • WITH MY CUP OF COFFEE, MY BIBLE
  • 00:39:29.120 --> 00:39:30.170
  • OPEN, AND ONE DEVOTIONAL AFTER
  • 00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:32.280
  • ANOTHER -- AND SHE BEGINS TO
  • 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:33.240
  • WATCH ME, UH, LEAD MY FAMILY IN
  • 00:39:33.240 --> 00:39:36.070
  • PRAYER, AND LEAD MY FAMILY TO
  • 00:39:36.070 --> 00:39:37.180
  • CHURCH, AND TAKE THE HELM OF
  • 00:39:37.180 --> 00:39:38.190
  • THE SHIP--
  • 00:39:38.190 --> 00:39:39.110
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:40.140
  • - TED: --AS THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:39:40.140 --> 00:39:41.140
  • LEADER, IT'S THEN THAT THOSE
  • 00:39:41.140 --> 00:39:42.240
  • THINGS STARTED COMING BACK.
  • 00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:44.120
  • BUT HER FAITH IN GOD WAS SO
  • 00:39:44.120 --> 00:39:45.070
  • STRONG.
  • 00:39:45.070 --> 00:39:46.030
  • I REMEMBER THAT THE DAY, THE
  • 00:39:46.030 --> 00:39:47.030
  • FIRST DAY I WAS LEAVING HOME
  • 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:49.200
  • AGAIN TO GO BACK ON THE ROAD,
  • 00:39:49.200 --> 00:39:52.120
  • AFTER SHE DECIDED, "I'M GONNA
  • 00:39:52.120 --> 00:39:54.140
  • STAY AND TRY TO STICK THIS
  • 00:39:54.140 --> 00:39:56.110
  • OUT," I GAVE HER A LIST OF ALL
  • 00:39:56.110 --> 00:39:58.140
  • THE TOWN AND CITIES I'D BE IN,
  • 00:39:58.140 --> 00:40:00.260
  • AND THE HOTELS, AND THE PHONE
  • 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.270
  • NUMBERS.
  • 00:40:01.270 --> 00:40:02.160
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:40:02.160 --> 00:40:03.150
  • - TED: SHE RIPPED IT UP, THREW
  • 00:40:03.150 --> 00:40:05.080
  • IT IN THE TRASH BASKET, AND
  • 00:40:05.080 --> 00:40:06.080
  • SAID, "I'M NOT GONNA PUT YOU ON
  • 00:40:06.080 --> 00:40:07.230
  • A LEASH LIKE A DOG."
  • 00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:09.040
  • SHE GOES, "I WATCHED YOU GIVE
  • 00:40:09.040 --> 00:40:11.170
  • YOUR LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:40:11.170 --> 00:40:13.140
  • HE'S YOUR WATCHDOG."
  • 00:40:13.140 --> 00:40:15.020
  • - BOBBY: WOW.
  • 00:40:15.020 --> 00:40:16.060
  • - TED: "TED, IF YOU WANTED TO
  • 00:40:16.060 --> 00:40:16.290
  • DO THIS AGAIN, YOU COULD."
  • 00:40:16.290 --> 00:40:18.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:19.260
  • - BOBBY: GOOD.
  • 00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:20.100
  • A STRONG WOMAN!
  • 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:20.250
  • - TED: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:40:20.250 --> 00:40:21.100
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:40:21.100 --> 00:40:21.260
  • - TED: YOU KNOW.
  • 00:40:21.260 --> 00:40:24.150
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:26.180
  • - TED: THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
  • 00:40:26.180 --> 00:40:27.190
  • "BUT IF YOU DO, HE'LL BRING YOU
  • 00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:28.110
  • DOWN SO FAST YOUR HEAD'LL
  • 00:40:28.110 --> 00:40:29.000
  • SPIN."
  • 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:29.160
  • AND THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY
  • 00:40:29.160 --> 00:40:30.070
  • HEAD STOOD UP.
  • 00:40:30.070 --> 00:40:30.200
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:31.160
  • - TED: BUT, UH--
  • 00:40:31.160 --> 00:40:32.190
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S A GOOD STORY.
  • 00:40:32.190 --> 00:40:34.020
  • - TED: I MEAN, I MARVELED-- I
  • 00:40:34.020 --> 00:40:36.240
  • MEAN, MY WIFE'S EXPRESSION OF
  • 00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:37.210
  • FAITH.
  • 00:40:37.210 --> 00:40:38.050
  • UM...I MEAN, I HAD MADE UP MY
  • 00:40:38.050 --> 00:40:40.250
  • MIND.
  • 00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:41.240
  • I SAID: "JESUS, I DON'T EVEN
  • 00:40:41.240 --> 00:40:44.140
  • KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING, FOR
  • 00:40:44.140 --> 00:40:45.150
  • SURE.
  • 00:40:45.150 --> 00:40:46.170
  • AND I DON'T CARE -- WHEREVER
  • 00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:47.280
  • YOU LEAD."
  • 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.150
  • BUT HER WILLINGNESS...TO STAY
  • 00:40:49.020 --> 00:40:52.020
  • AND TRY TO STICK IT OUT WAS
  • 00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:55.140
  • LIKE PUTTING THAT INTO
  • 00:40:55.140 --> 00:40:56.010
  • HYPERDRIVE.
  • 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:57.090
  • - BOBBY: SHE PROBABLY--
  • 00:40:57.090 --> 00:40:58.160
  • - TED: IT WAS LIKE I SAID-- IT
  • 00:40:58.160 --> 00:40:59.080
  • WAS ALMOST LIKE I SAID: OKAY,
  • 00:40:59.080 --> 00:40:59.290
  • JUST WATCH ME.
  • 00:40:59.290 --> 00:41:01.140
  • AND I TOLD HER, I SAID: "IF
  • 00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:02.120
  • YOU'LL GIVE ME THIS CHANCE,
  • 00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:03.220
  • I'LL BECOME THE MAN YOU THOUGHT
  • 00:41:03.220 --> 00:41:05.130
  • YOU MARRIED.
  • 00:41:05.130 --> 00:41:07.000
  • I'LL BECOME THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:07.190
  • LEADER OF MY HOME.
  • 00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:08.170
  • I'LL BECOME A MAN OF STRONG
  • 00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:10.050
  • CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY.
  • 00:41:10.050 --> 00:41:10.260
  • AND, GOD WILLING, ONE DAY,
  • 00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.110
  • REGAIN YOUR TRUST AND RESPECT."
  • 00:41:12.110 --> 00:41:14.000
  • - BOBBY: SHE PROBABLY SAW
  • 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:14.260
  • THE FRUIT, THOUGH, TOO, OF THE
  • 00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:16.200
  • ED COLE MESSAGE THAT SEEMS LIKE
  • 00:41:16.200 --> 00:41:18.030
  • HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:41:18.030 --> 00:41:19.140
  • BE A MAN OF YOUR WORD.
  • 00:41:19.140 --> 00:41:20.150
  • BE FAITHFUL.
  • 00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:21.040
  • LEAD YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:22.250
  • TAKE 'EM TO CHURCH.
  • 00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:24.110
  • BE A MAN OF GOD.
  • 00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:25.090
  • BE AN EXAMPLE.
  • 00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:27.290
  • AND, I IMAGINE THAT GAVE HER
  • 00:41:27.290 --> 00:41:28.190
  • SOME HOPE THAT: WELL, MAYBE TED
  • 00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:29.290
  • CAN TURN THIS AROUND.
  • 00:41:29.290 --> 00:41:31.130
  • WHAT ABOUT YOUR KIDS?
  • 00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:33.250
  • I MEAN, YOU HAVE THREE KIDS.
  • 00:41:33.250 --> 00:41:35.170
  • ONE ACTUALLY BECAME A
  • 00:41:35.170 --> 00:41:36.120
  • PROFESSIONAL WRESTER, TOO, FOR
  • 00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:37.150
  • A SEASON, RIGHT?
  • 00:41:37.150 --> 00:41:38.190
  • - TED: FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
  • 00:41:38.190 --> 00:41:39.140
  • - BOBBY: YEAH!
  • 00:41:39.140 --> 00:41:40.180
  • - TED: FIVE YEARS, I THINK.
  • 00:41:40.180 --> 00:41:41.160
  • - BOBBY: YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S
  • 00:41:41.160 --> 00:41:42.070
  • A LONG TIME.
  • 00:41:42.070 --> 00:41:42.240
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:43.070
  • - BOBBY: HOW DID THIS CHANGE
  • 00:41:43.070 --> 00:41:45.090
  • IN YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:46.090
  • AND-- FOLLOWING CHRIST.
  • 00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:48.030
  • WHAT IMPACT DID IT HAVE ON YOUR
  • 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:49.130
  • KIDS?
  • 00:41:49.130 --> 00:41:49.280
  • AND, WERE YOU WORRIED ABOUT
  • 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.000
  • THEM AT ALL WHEN YOU WERE ON
  • 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.060
  • THE ROAD AND...
  • 00:41:52.060 --> 00:41:52.200
  • - TED: WELL, YOU KNOW, MY
  • 00:41:52.200 --> 00:41:54.020
  • BOYS, UM...THE ONE THING MY
  • 00:41:54.020 --> 00:41:56.190
  • WIFE SAID TO ME--
  • 00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:57.160
  • - BOBBY: WELL, YOU HAVE THREE
  • 00:41:57.160 --> 00:41:59.040
  • SONS?
  • 00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:00.030
  • - TED: THREE SONS.
  • 00:42:00.030 --> 00:42:01.060
  • WELL, WE HAVE TWO.
  • 00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:02.050
  • AND I HAVE A SON FROM A
  • 00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:02.280
  • PREVIOUS MARRIAGE WHEN I
  • 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:03.160
  • WAS...VERY YOUNG.
  • 00:42:03.160 --> 00:42:05.040
  • - BOBBY: SO, YOUR POOR WIFE IS
  • 00:42:05.040 --> 00:42:05.260
  • SURROUNDED BY MEN?
  • 00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:06.140
  • - TED: YEAH. AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:42:06.140 --> 00:42:07.100
  • OTHER THING.
  • 00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:08.080
  • I MEAN, I GOT MICHAEL BACK.
  • 00:42:08.080 --> 00:42:10.130
  • WE GOT HIM BACK WHEN HE WAS 11.
  • 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:11.110
  • AND HE-- I MEAN, SHE BROUGHT
  • 00:42:11.110 --> 00:42:14.010
  • HIM IN AND LOVED HIM AS HER
  • 00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:15.050
  • OWN.
  • 00:42:15.050 --> 00:42:16.270
  • AND, I MEAN, SHE'S JUST-- SHE'S
  • 00:42:16.270 --> 00:42:18.020
  • SO GOOD.
  • 00:42:18.020 --> 00:42:20.150
  • BUT, YOU KNOW, WE-- MY BOYS--
  • 00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:22.050
  • THE ONE THING MY WIFE SAID TO
  • 00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:23.290
  • ME, SHE GOES, "IN SPITE OF WHAT
  • 00:42:23.290 --> 00:42:24.270
  • YOU'VE DONE TO ME, YOU'VE
  • 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:26.100
  • ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT DAD."
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.210
  • AND I HAD A GREAT EXAMPLE.
  • 00:42:27.210 --> 00:42:30.120
  • AND SO, SHE SAID, "UNTIL
  • 00:42:30.120 --> 00:42:31.250
  • THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH TO
  • 00:42:31.250 --> 00:42:34.050
  • UNDERSTAND THIS, THEY DON'T
  • 00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:35.190
  • KNOW IT."
  • 00:42:35.190 --> 00:42:36.090
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:37.240
  • - TED: "AND WE DON'T TALK
  • 00:42:37.240 --> 00:42:38.220
  • ABOUT IT."
  • 00:42:38.220 --> 00:42:39.100
  • AND I SAID, "OKAY."
  • 00:42:39.100 --> 00:42:40.180
  • AND SO, THEY NEVER REALLY KNEW
  • 00:42:40.180 --> 00:42:43.080
  • IT OR HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT,
  • 00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:45.080
  • ACTUALLY, UNTIL THEY STARTED--
  • 00:42:45.080 --> 00:42:46.200
  • UNTIL THEY HEARD ME SHARE MY
  • 00:42:46.200 --> 00:42:48.270
  • TESTIMONY FROM A PULPIT.
  • 00:42:48.270 --> 00:42:50.070
  • - BOBBY: INTERESTING.
  • 00:42:50.070 --> 00:42:51.070
  • SO, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT
  • 00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:52.150
  • ANY OF THAT UNTIL YOU STARTED
  • 00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:53.190
  • SHARING PUBLICLY.
  • 00:42:53.190 --> 00:42:54.080
  • - TED: NO...NO.
  • 00:42:54.080 --> 00:42:54.230
  • - BOBBY: HOW DID THEY RESPOND
  • 00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:55.170
  • WHEN THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT?
  • 00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:56.180
  • - TED: WELL, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:42:56.180 --> 00:42:57.200
  • ALWAYS LOOKED AT THAT AS...WHEN
  • 00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:59.010
  • THEY WANT TO, THEY'LL COME TO
  • 00:42:59.020 --> 00:43:02.040
  • ME.
  • 00:43:02.040 --> 00:43:02.180
  • - BOBBY: THERE WAS A SCENE IN
  • 00:43:02.180 --> 00:43:03.210
  • THE MOVIE, IT WAS IN THE
  • 00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.010
  • TRAILER, WHERE ONE OF YOUR SONS
  • 00:43:05.010 --> 00:43:06.070
  • LOOKS AT YOU AND HE SAYS
  • 00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:07.140
  • SOMETHING LIKE, "YOU NEVER
  • 00:43:07.140 --> 00:43:08.040
  • APOLOGIZED."
  • 00:43:08.040 --> 00:43:09.140
  • WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?
  • 00:43:09.140 --> 00:43:10.150
  • - TED: YEAH. WELL, IT WAS
  • 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:12.050
  • LIKE...YOU KNOW, UH, MY SON
  • 00:43:12.050 --> 00:43:14.120
  • TED -- I THINK IT WAS-- I
  • 00:43:14.120 --> 00:43:16.020
  • THINK, MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT
  • 00:43:16.020 --> 00:43:18.010
  • WAS JUST...HIM BEING
  • 00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:20.150
  • UPSET...THAT THE DAD HE LOVED
  • 00:43:21.180 --> 00:43:24.180
  • AND ADMIRED SO MUCH...WAS
  • 00:43:24.180 --> 00:43:25.220
  • CAPABLE OF THAT.
  • 00:43:25.220 --> 00:43:27.050
  • - BOBBY: SURE.
  • 00:43:27.050 --> 00:43:28.110
  • BUT YET, ON THE FLIP SIDE, HE
  • 00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:30.010
  • WOULD SAY, "MY DAD WAS A GREAT
  • 00:43:30.010 --> 00:43:31.230
  • DAD."
  • 00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:32.110
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:33.180
  • - BOBBY: RIGHT? THAT'S A BIG
  • 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:34.090
  • PART OF HIS MESSAGE, TOO,
  • 00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:34.280
  • BECAUSE HE'S A DAD, NOW.
  • 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:35.260
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:43:35.260 --> 00:43:37.030
  • - BOBBY: IN FACT, THIS IS ALSO
  • 00:43:37.030 --> 00:43:38.050
  • A PART OF THE FILM WHERE YOUR
  • 00:43:38.050 --> 00:43:38.260
  • SON, UH-- IS IT TED, JR.?
  • 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:41.130
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:43:41.130 --> 00:43:42.140
  • - BOBBY: UH, SHARES ABOUT
  • 00:43:42.140 --> 00:43:43.120
  • BEING A DAD.
  • 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:43.290
  • ACTUALLY, IT'S IN THE FILM.
  • 00:43:43.290 --> 00:43:45.130
  • LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
  • 00:43:45.150 --> 00:43:48.150
  • [MOVIE SCORE PLAYS]
  • 00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:51.020
  • - TED DIBIASE, JR.: MY
  • 00:43:51.020 --> 00:43:51.210
  • FAMILY'S STRONGER THAN THEY'VE
  • 00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:52.120
  • EVER BEEN.
  • 00:43:52.120 --> 00:43:52.290
  • MY MOM AND DAD LOVE EACH OTHER
  • 00:43:52.290 --> 00:43:53.290
  • MORE THAN THEY'VE EVER LOVED
  • 00:43:53.290 --> 00:43:54.190
  • EACH OTHER.
  • 00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:55.010
  • I HAVE AN AMAZING RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:43:55.140 --> 00:43:58.140
  • WITH MY BROTHERS, AND...AND
  • 00:43:58.140 --> 00:43:59.100
  • NOW, I CARE MORE ABOUT BEING A
  • 00:43:59.100 --> 00:44:02.050
  • DAD AND RAISING MY SON IN A
  • 00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:04.080
  • GODLY WAY, IN A GODLY HOME, AND
  • 00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:08.090
  • BEING A SPIRITUAL LEADER.
  • 00:44:08.250 --> 00:44:11.250
  • - PASTOR HAL SANTOS: HOW IT
  • 00:44:11.250 --> 00:44:13.070
  • ALL CONNECTS...IS REALLY THE
  • 00:44:13.070 --> 00:44:14.020
  • GRACE OF GOD.
  • 00:44:14.020 --> 00:44:16.010
  • TO THINK THAT GOD WOULD USE US
  • 00:44:16.010 --> 00:44:17.010
  • TO SHARE THE GOSPEL WITH
  • 00:44:17.010 --> 00:44:19.080
  • SOMEBODY...
  • 00:44:19.080 --> 00:44:22.040
  • YOU KNOW, BEING FAMOUS DOESN'T
  • 00:44:22.040 --> 00:44:24.100
  • GIVE ANOTHER EDGE.
  • 00:44:24.100 --> 00:44:25.260
  • IT DOES GIVE ANOTHER POINT.
  • 00:44:26.060 --> 00:44:29.060
  • BUT THE POINT...OF THE GOSPEL
  • 00:44:29.060 --> 00:44:30.010
  • IS...HE ACCEPTS US WHO WE
  • 00:44:30.010 --> 00:44:31.270
  • ARE...AND THE WAY WE ARE.
  • 00:44:31.270 --> 00:44:34.010
  • 'CAUSE I WAS A KID AT 15 AND
  • 00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:34.260
  • A...GUY CAME BY AND TALKED TO
  • 00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:35.170
  • ME.
  • 00:44:35.170 --> 00:44:35.290
  • GUY NAMED RICHARD.
  • 00:44:36.210 --> 00:44:39.210
  • SHARED THE GOSPEL WITH ME.
  • 00:44:39.210 --> 00:44:41.130
  • AND I ACCEPTED CHRIST AT 15 AND
  • 00:44:41.130 --> 00:44:43.140
  • I HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK.
  • 00:44:43.140 --> 00:44:44.160
  • - TED, JR.: HEY, BABY.
  • 00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:46.190
  • HEY...
  • 00:44:46.190 --> 00:44:49.160
  • (SIGHING) YEAH...YEAH, I'M
  • 00:44:49.160 --> 00:44:51.100
  • GOOD.
  • 00:44:51.100 --> 00:44:53.050
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:53.220 --> 00:44:56.220
  • - TED: THAT WAS PASTOR HAL.
  • 00:44:56.220 --> 00:44:58.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:44:58.020 --> 00:44:58.160
  • - BOBBY: SO, THAT WAS--
  • 00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:00.210
  • SO THAT WAS-- PASTOR HAL WAS
  • 00:45:01.250 --> 00:45:04.250
  • THE PASTOR THAT WAS WITH YOU
  • 00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:07.260
  • WHEN YOU WERE...15?
  • 00:45:07.260 --> 00:45:08.120
  • NO.
  • 00:45:08.120 --> 00:45:10.270
  • - TED: NO.
  • 00:45:10.270 --> 00:45:12.130
  • PASTOR HAL IS THE PASTOR THAT I
  • 00:45:12.130 --> 00:45:13.080
  • MET IN THE GYM...
  • 00:45:13.080 --> 00:45:13.260
  • - BOBBY: YEAH!
  • 00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:14.260
  • OKAY, SO IT IS HIM.
  • 00:45:14.260 --> 00:45:15.290
  • - TED: ...RIGHT AFTER MELANIE
  • 00:45:15.290 --> 00:45:16.200
  • AND I MARRIED.
  • 00:45:16.200 --> 00:45:17.030
  • - BOBBY: AND HE'S THE ONE THAT
  • 00:45:17.030 --> 00:45:17.250
  • TOOK YOU TO TALK TO MELANIE.
  • 00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:18.150
  • AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
  • 00:45:18.150 --> 00:45:19.050
  • WATCHING, UH, WE'RE TALKING TO
  • 00:45:19.050 --> 00:45:21.010
  • TED DIBIASE, THE MILLION DOLLAR
  • 00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:22.060
  • MAN, ABOUT HIS TESTIMONY AND
  • 00:45:22.060 --> 00:45:24.070
  • THE WAY THAT GOD TURNED HIS
  • 00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:26.210
  • LIFE AND HIS MARRIAGE AROUND.
  • 00:45:26.210 --> 00:45:27.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:45:27.120 --> 00:45:29.020
  • IT'S A GREAT STORY.
  • 00:45:29.020 --> 00:45:30.170
  • SO, THERE'S THIS MAN IN YOUR
  • 00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:34.070
  • LIFE WHO'S REALLY HAD A BIG
  • 00:45:34.070 --> 00:45:35.130
  • IMPACT.
  • 00:45:35.130 --> 00:45:36.030
  • I THINK IT SHOULD BE AN
  • 00:45:36.030 --> 00:45:37.130
  • ENCOURAGEMENT TO A LOT OF
  • 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:38.230
  • EVERYDAY FOLKS WHO THINK THAT
  • 00:45:38.230 --> 00:45:40.050
  • THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE
  • 00:45:40.050 --> 00:45:41.280
  • WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE OR
  • 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:42.250
  • WHATEVER, THAT, MAYBE, 'CAUSE
  • 00:45:42.250 --> 00:45:43.250
  • THEY DON'T HAVE A HUGE
  • 00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:44.200
  • MINISTRY, THEY'RE NOT DOIN'
  • 00:45:44.200 --> 00:45:45.100
  • SOMETHING GREAT FOR GOD.
  • 00:45:45.100 --> 00:45:46.060
  • IT'S EASY TO FORGET THAT,
  • 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:46.250
  • SOMETIMES, WE ARE THAT PERSON
  • 00:45:46.250 --> 00:45:48.080
  • THAT A TED DIBIASE NEEDS TO
  • 00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:51.050
  • SAVE HIS FAMILY, TO HEAR THE
  • 00:45:51.050 --> 00:45:54.020
  • GOSPEL, TO KNOW THE LORD.
  • 00:45:54.020 --> 00:45:55.010
  • AND THIS GUY -- HIS NAME WAS
  • 00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:56.090
  • HAL.
  • 00:45:56.090 --> 00:45:56.270
  • - TED: HAL.
  • 00:45:56.270 --> 00:45:58.010
  • - BOBBY: AND THAT CLIP WAS HAL
  • 00:45:58.010 --> 00:45:58.230
  • TALKING TO YOUR SON?
  • 00:45:58.230 --> 00:45:59.210
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:00.230
  • THAT WAS HAL, UH, TALKING TO MY
  • 00:46:00.230 --> 00:46:02.200
  • SON, YOU KNOW, AND-- AND TRYING
  • 00:46:02.200 --> 00:46:03.130
  • AND, YOU KNOW, TALKIN' ABOUT--
  • 00:46:07.100 --> 00:46:08.200
  • YOU KNOW, HE WAS SHARIN' HIS
  • 00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.180
  • OWN SALVATION EXPERIENCE WITH
  • 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:10.120
  • TED, JR.
  • 00:46:10.120 --> 00:46:12.060
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:46:12.060 --> 00:46:13.240
  • - TED: UM...UH, BUT THAT WAS
  • 00:46:14.040 --> 00:46:17.040
  • ONE OF THE KEY THINGS FOR ME,
  • 00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:18.200
  • UH, IS THE IMPACT THAT I WAS
  • 00:46:18.200 --> 00:46:19.250
  • YOU KNOW, BACK TO THAT TRIP
  • 00:46:23.270 --> 00:46:26.270
  • THAT WE WENT, RIGHT AFTER
  • 00:46:26.270 --> 00:46:27.160
  • THE CONVERSATION WITH MY WIFE
  • 00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:28.150
  • AND WE'RE GOING TO CHICAGO
  • 00:46:28.150 --> 00:46:29.230
  • AND I READ THIS BOOK BY
  • 00:46:29.230 --> 00:46:30.110
  • ED COLE.
  • 00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:33.190
  • AND, GOD LAID THAT ON MY HEART.
  • 00:46:33.190 --> 00:46:34.110
  • I WALKED INTO A ROOM OF 1500
  • 00:46:34.110 --> 00:46:35.270
  • TEENAGERS.
  • 00:46:35.270 --> 00:46:37.050
  • AND THEY ALL RECOGNIZED ME.
  • 00:46:37.050 --> 00:46:38.250
  • "THERE'S TED DIBIASE.
  • 00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:40.010
  • THERE'S THE MILLION DOLLAR
  • 00:46:40.010 --> 00:46:40.210
  • MAN."
  • 00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:41.090
  • I HAD THE HIGHLIGHTED BLONDE
  • 00:46:41.090 --> 00:46:42.050
  • HAIR.
  • 00:46:42.050 --> 00:46:44.060
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:46:44.060 --> 00:46:45.040
  • - TED: I LOOKED-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:46.130
  • STUCK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.
  • 00:46:46.130 --> 00:46:48.180
  • UH...SO, WHY WAS I THERE?
  • 00:46:48.180 --> 00:46:49.080
  • AND I BELIEVE WHY I WAS THERE
  • 00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:51.070
  • WAS AS IF GOD SAID: I'VE HEARD
  • 00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:52.220
  • WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND I'VE
  • 00:46:52.220 --> 00:46:53.140
  • SEEN YOUR TEARS.
  • 00:46:53.140 --> 00:46:54.150
  • NOW, SHOW ME.
  • 00:46:54.150 --> 00:46:56.020
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:46:56.020 --> 00:46:57.030
  • - TED: BECAUSE THE BEGINNING
  • 00:46:57.030 --> 00:46:58.020
  • OF ALL GENUINE REPENTANCE IS
  • 00:46:58.020 --> 00:46:59.050
  • HUMILITY.
  • 00:46:59.050 --> 00:46:59.290
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:46:59.290 --> 00:47:01.140
  • - TED: SO, WHEN THE INVITATION
  • 00:47:01.140 --> 00:47:02.260
  • WAS GIVEN AT THAT FIRST EVENT
  • 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:04.140
  • OF THAT YOUTH THING, GOD WANTED
  • 00:47:04.140 --> 00:47:07.060
  • TO KNOW ONE THING: WOULD I, IN
  • 00:47:07.060 --> 00:47:09.200
  • FRONT OF 1500 KIDS WHO
  • 00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:11.090
  • RECOGNIZED ME AS A TELEVISION
  • 00:47:11.090 --> 00:47:13.050
  • CELEBRITY, GET UP AND GO
  • 00:47:13.050 --> 00:47:13.240
  • FORWARD?
  • 00:47:15.110 --> 00:47:18.110
  • AND, UH...YOU BETCHA.
  • 00:47:18.110 --> 00:47:19.020
  • I BEAT EVERY KID IN THE ROOM TO
  • 00:47:19.020 --> 00:47:20.030
  • THE FRONT.
  • 00:47:20.030 --> 00:47:20.160
  • OF COURSE, HAL HAD ME
  • 00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:22.070
  • STRATEGICALLY PLANTED ON THE
  • 00:47:22.070 --> 00:47:24.020
  • FIRST ROW, SO IT WAS MORE LIKE
  • 00:47:24.020 --> 00:47:25.030
  • I LURCHED OUT OF MY SEAT...
  • 00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:26.030
  • - BOBBY: YEAH, OF COURSE.
  • 00:47:26.030 --> 00:47:27.060
  • YEAH.
  • 00:47:27.060 --> 00:47:27.190
  • - TED: ...AND FELL ON MY FACE.
  • 00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:28.240
  • BUT IT WAS A...IT WAS A MOMENT
  • 00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:30.120
  • I'LL NEVER FORGET.
  • 00:47:30.120 --> 00:47:31.200
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S POWERFUL.
  • 00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:33.000
  • - TED: AND, UH...I LAID THERE
  • 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.160
  • CRYING.
  • 00:47:34.160 --> 00:47:35.000
  • AND THESE TEENAGERS CAME AFTER
  • 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:35.270
  • ME AND THEY PICKED ME OFF MY
  • 00:47:35.270 --> 00:47:36.260
  • FACE.
  • 00:47:36.260 --> 00:47:37.280
  • AND THEY WERE CRYING, I WAS
  • 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.220
  • CRYIN'.
  • 00:47:38.220 --> 00:47:40.060
  • - BOBBY: WOW...
  • 00:47:40.060 --> 00:47:40.260
  • - TED: IT WAS-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:41.220
  • WE'RE ALL-- WE'RE ALL THE SAME
  • 00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:42.130
  • IN THE EYES OF GOD.
  • 00:47:42.130 --> 00:47:42.290
  • BUT IT WAS A MOMENT.
  • 00:47:42.290 --> 00:47:44.050
  • AND MY WIFE CAME TO ME, THEN.
  • 00:47:44.050 --> 00:47:45.240
  • THAT'S WHEN SHE CAME TO ME.
  • 00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:47.070
  • THAT'S WHEN SHE CAME TO ME AND
  • 00:47:47.070 --> 00:47:49.280
  • SAID WHAT SHE SAID.
  • 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:50.180
  • AND, UM...
  • 00:47:50.180 --> 00:47:52.110
  • - BOBBY: WHAT DID SHE SAY?
  • 00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:53.070
  • - TED: THAT'S WHEN SHE-- SHE
  • 00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:54.270
  • SAID, "I'M GOING TO...I'M GONNA
  • 00:47:54.270 --> 00:47:56.260
  • TRY...I'M GONNA TRY TO DO
  • 00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:58.160
  • THIS."
  • 00:47:58.160 --> 00:47:58.290
  • - BOBBY: OKAY.
  • 00:47:58.290 --> 00:47:59.200
  • IT'S INTERESTING WHEN I HEAR
  • 00:47:59.200 --> 00:48:00.120
  • YOUR STORY, BECAUSE, IT SOUNDS
  • 00:48:00.120 --> 00:48:01.180
  • LIKE IT DIDN'T ALL HAPPEN
  • 00:48:01.180 --> 00:48:02.280
  • OVERNIGHT, THAT THE CHANGE, THE
  • 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.100
  • TRANSFORMATION THAT TOOK PLACE
  • 00:48:05.230 --> 00:48:08.230
  • IN YOUR LIFE-- I MEAN, I'M
  • 00:48:08.230 --> 00:48:10.030
  • LISTENING TO YOU.
  • 00:48:10.030 --> 00:48:11.020
  • YOU ARE A MAN OF GOD, YOU'RE A
  • 00:48:11.020 --> 00:48:13.020
  • FAMILY MAN, YOU LOVE YOUR WIFE.
  • 00:48:13.020 --> 00:48:14.090
  • YOU LOVE YOUR KIDS, YOU LOVE
  • 00:48:14.090 --> 00:48:16.050
  • THE LORD, YOU'RE PREACHIN' THE
  • 00:48:16.050 --> 00:48:17.140
  • GOSPEL.
  • 00:48:17.140 --> 00:48:17.270
  • BUT, YOU DIDN'T GO FROM, YOU
  • 00:48:17.270 --> 00:48:19.190
  • KNOW, THIS GUY THAT WAS, YOU
  • 00:48:19.190 --> 00:48:21.050
  • KNOW, SLEEPING AROUND AND
  • 00:48:21.050 --> 00:48:24.000
  • WHATEVER, TO-- AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.290
  • FAMILY ABOUT TO FALL APART,
  • 00:48:25.290 --> 00:48:27.190
  • AND, YOU KNOW, ROCK BOTTOM TO
  • 00:48:27.190 --> 00:48:28.220
  • THIS OVERNIGHT.
  • 00:48:28.220 --> 00:48:30.040
  • IT TOOK A LONG TIME.
  • 00:48:30.040 --> 00:48:31.020
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:48:31.020 --> 00:48:33.060
  • - BOBBY: AND I FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:48:33.060 --> 00:48:34.010
  • SOMETIMES, THE TESTIMONIES THAT
  • 00:48:34.010 --> 00:48:35.180
  • WE HEAR -- IT CAN FEEL LIKE,
  • 00:48:35.180 --> 00:48:37.120
  • YOU KNOW: "I WAS ON DRUGS," OR
  • 00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:38.110
  • "I WAS ADDICTED TO THIS," OR "I
  • 00:48:38.110 --> 00:48:40.250
  • WAS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND THEN
  • 00:48:40.250 --> 00:48:41.160
  • I FOUND JESUS, AND, THE NEXT
  • 00:48:41.160 --> 00:48:42.230
  • DAY, EVERYTHING WAS AMAZING AND
  • 00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:46.150
  • PERFECT AND I WASN'T TEMPTED TO
  • 00:48:46.150 --> 00:48:47.070
  • DO DRUGS ANYMORE," "I WASN'T
  • 00:48:47.070 --> 00:48:47.280
  • TEMPTED TO SLEEP AROUND," "I
  • 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:48.290
  • WASN'T TEMPTED TO DRINK," OR
  • 00:48:48.290 --> 00:48:49.190
  • WHATEVER.
  • 00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:50.090
  • AND, UH...AND I THINK THAT THE
  • 00:48:50.090 --> 00:48:52.120
  • STORIES, WHEN THEY'RE SHORTER,
  • 00:48:52.120 --> 00:48:54.130
  • WE FORGET THE DETAIL THAT,
  • 00:48:54.130 --> 00:48:55.290
  • SOMETIMES, IT TAKES MONTHS OR
  • 00:48:55.290 --> 00:48:57.000
  • YEARS--
  • 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.210
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:48:58.210 --> 00:48:59.040
  • - BOBBY: --FOR A PERSON TO
  • 00:48:59.040 --> 00:49:00.040
  • REALLY TURN AROUND AND START
  • 00:49:00.040 --> 00:49:01.090
  • FOLLOWING THE LORD.
  • 00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:02.060
  • AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING
  • 00:49:02.060 --> 00:49:03.010
  • FROM YOUR STORY.
  • 00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:03.150
  • I THINK IT'S AN ENCOURAGEMENT
  • 00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:04.130
  • FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, MAYBE,
  • 00:49:04.130 --> 00:49:05.030
  • THAT ARE WATCHING TONIGHT.
  • 00:49:05.030 --> 00:49:05.220
  • - TED: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:49:05.220 --> 00:49:06.080
  • AND--
  • 00:49:06.080 --> 00:49:06.170
  • - BOBBY: YOU DIDN'T JUST GET
  • 00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:07.090
  • PERFECT OVERNIGHT?
  • 00:49:07.090 --> 00:49:07.240
  • - TED: OH, GOSH...
  • 00:49:07.240 --> 00:49:08.100
  • - BOBBY: YOU STILL HAD
  • 00:49:08.100 --> 00:49:08.280
  • TEMPTATIONS?
  • 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:09.130
  • YOU STILL PROBABLY FELL A FEW
  • 00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:10.040
  • TIMES, YOU MIGHT HAVE MESSED
  • 00:49:10.040 --> 00:49:11.120
  • UP, BUT YOU NEVER-- HUH?
  • 00:49:11.120 --> 00:49:12.000
  • I MEAN, I--
  • 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.080
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:49:13.080 --> 00:49:13.250
  • THERE WERE THOSE MOMENTS IN OUR
  • 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:18.000
  • RELATIONSHIP WHERE, UH, YOU
  • 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.090
  • KNOW, LIKE HAL SAID: "IT'S
  • 00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:21.220
  • GONNA BE GOING ALONG FINE, AND
  • 00:49:21.220 --> 00:49:23.280
  • THEN, OUT OF NOWHERE, YOU'RE
  • 00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:25.170
  • GONNA-- YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS
  • 00:49:25.170 --> 00:49:26.200
  • GONNA HAPPEN.
  • 00:49:26.200 --> 00:49:27.220
  • IT'S GONNA SET HER OFF."
  • 00:49:27.220 --> 00:49:28.200
  • AND, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, AS,
  • 00:49:28.200 --> 00:49:29.290
  • YOU KNOW, JESUS SAID: YOU'LL
  • 00:49:29.290 --> 00:49:31.270
  • RECOGNIZE THE TREE BY THE
  • 00:49:31.270 --> 00:49:33.000
  • FRUIT.
  • 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.060
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:49:35.060 --> 00:49:35.230
  • - TED: AND AS MY WIFE, OVER
  • 00:49:35.230 --> 00:49:37.200
  • TIME, BEGAN TO SEE MY LIFE BEAR
  • 00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:39.080
  • FRUIT, AND AS SHE BEGAN TO SEE
  • 00:49:39.080 --> 00:49:41.100
  • ME TAKE THE HELM OF THE SHIP
  • 00:49:41.100 --> 00:49:42.280
  • AND BE WHO I NEEDED TO BE,
  • 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.180
  • UH...THAT'S...THAT'S WHEN THOSE
  • 00:49:44.180 --> 00:49:47.040
  • THINGS -- THEY CAME BACK.
  • 00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:48.010
  • AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR
  • 00:49:48.010 --> 00:49:49.180
  • US, I THINK, I WOULD SAY A GOOD
  • 00:49:49.180 --> 00:49:52.140
  • TWO YEARS, UM...UM, BEFORE I
  • 00:49:52.140 --> 00:49:54.010
  • REALLY, YOU KNOW...STOPPED
  • 00:49:54.010 --> 00:49:56.190
  • THINKIN' ABOUT IT.
  • 00:49:56.270 --> 00:49:59.270
  • - BOBBY: YEAH.
  • 00:49:59.270 --> 00:50:00.270
  • - TED: BUT I MEAN-- AND, I--
  • 00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:01.270
  • YOU KNOW, THE SAFEGUARDS I PUT
  • 00:50:01.270 --> 00:50:03.140
  • IN MY LIFE, THEN, TOO -- YOU
  • 00:50:03.140 --> 00:50:04.260
  • KNOW, I, UH...UM...YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:06.250
  • JUST...I ACTUALLY LEFT THE WWE
  • 00:50:07.180 --> 00:50:10.180
  • IN THE SUMMER OF...I THINK IT
  • 00:50:10.180 --> 00:50:13.070
  • WAS '93.
  • 00:50:13.070 --> 00:50:16.040
  • AND, UH, MY INTENTION WAS TO GO
  • 00:50:16.040 --> 00:50:17.190
  • BACK TO WORK FOR THIS JAPANESE
  • 00:50:17.190 --> 00:50:19.050
  • COMPANY.
  • 00:50:19.050 --> 00:50:20.000
  • AND, THE REASON I WANTED TO
  • 00:50:20.260 --> 00:50:23.260
  • LEAVE WASN'T THAT I WANTED TO
  • 00:50:24.080 --> 00:50:27.080
  • LEAVE THE WWE.
  • 00:50:27.080 --> 00:50:27.230
  • BUT I REALIZED, YOU KNOW, IN
  • 00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:29.290
  • THE SHORT TERM, YOU KNOW, IF
  • 00:50:29.290 --> 00:50:30.280
  • YOU'RE GONNA QUIT DRINKING, GET
  • 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.200
  • OUT OF THE BAR.
  • 00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:32.130
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:33.120
  • - TED: SO, IF I'M GOING TO--
  • 00:50:33.120 --> 00:50:34.270
  • YOU KNOW, LIKE JESUS SAID, YOU
  • 00:50:34.270 --> 00:50:36.040
  • KNOW, YOU ARE WHAT YOU BEHOLD.
  • 00:50:36.040 --> 00:50:36.250
  • SO, IF I'M HANGIN' AROUND, IF
  • 00:50:36.250 --> 00:50:38.050
  • I'M STILL ON THE ROAD WITH A
  • 00:50:38.050 --> 00:50:39.250
  • BUNCH OF GUYS...
  • 00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:40.220
  • - BOBBY: SURE, SURE!
  • 00:50:40.220 --> 00:50:41.140
  • - TED: ...THAT ARE LIVIN' THAT
  • 00:50:41.140 --> 00:50:42.270
  • LIFESTYLE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:50:42.270 --> 00:50:44.240
  • NEED TO GET OUT OF IT--
  • 00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:46.100
  • - BOBBY: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:50:46.100 --> 00:50:47.020
  • - TED: --OR-- OR PUT SOME
  • 00:50:47.020 --> 00:50:48.260
  • SAFEGUARDS IN THERE SO-- TO
  • 00:50:48.260 --> 00:50:51.030
  • HELP PROTECT MYSELF OR GET OUT.
  • 00:50:51.030 --> 00:50:53.240
  • - BOBBY: SO, THAT'S SOME OF
  • 00:50:53.240 --> 00:50:54.250
  • YOU ADVICE, EVEN, FOR SOME OF
  • 00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:56.010
  • THE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING
  • 00:50:56.010 --> 00:50:56.210
  • TONIGHT IS GET AWAY FROM THOSE
  • 00:50:56.210 --> 00:50:57.180
  • ENVIRONMENTS.
  • 00:50:57.180 --> 00:50:59.230
  • SOMETIMES, THERE'S FRIENDSHIPS,
  • 00:50:59.230 --> 00:51:01.070
  • TOO, THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF
  • 00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:02.000
  • CUT OUT OF OUR LIVES.
  • 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:02.250
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:51:02.250 --> 00:51:03.200
  • ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:51:03.200 --> 00:51:04.020
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S REALLY HARD
  • 00:51:04.020 --> 00:51:04.220
  • WHEN WE'VE BONDED WITH PEOPLE,
  • 00:51:04.220 --> 00:51:05.260
  • AND WE LOVE THESE PEOPLE, AND
  • 00:51:05.260 --> 00:51:07.130
  • THEY'RE NOT ALL-AROUND BAD
  • 00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:08.020
  • FOLKS.
  • 00:51:08.020 --> 00:51:08.260
  • SOMETIMES, THEY'RE SORTA GOOD,
  • 00:51:08.260 --> 00:51:09.250
  • SORTA BAD, BUT WE KNOW...THAT,
  • 00:51:09.250 --> 00:51:11.130
  • MAYBE, IF THERE'S THIS THING WE
  • 00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:14.090
  • NEED TO GET OUT OF OUR LIVES,
  • 00:51:14.090 --> 00:51:16.260
  • SOMETIMES WE NEED SOME DISTANCE
  • 00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:17.180
  • FROM SOME OF THOSE FRIENDS.
  • 00:51:17.180 --> 00:51:18.140
  • - TED: MM-HMM.
  • 00:51:18.140 --> 00:51:19.000
  • - BOBBY: AND THAT CAN BE
  • 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:19.190
  • REALLY HARD.
  • 00:51:19.190 --> 00:51:20.030
  • YOU CAN FEEL REALLY LONELY.
  • 00:51:20.030 --> 00:51:20.230
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:51:20.230 --> 00:51:21.130
  • - BOBBY: BUT THAT'S THE RIGHT
  • 00:51:21.130 --> 00:51:23.030
  • MOVE SOMETIMES, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:51:23.030 --> 00:51:23.220
  • - TED: EXACTLY.
  • 00:51:23.220 --> 00:51:24.060
  • - BOBBY: YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:51:24.060 --> 00:51:25.000
  • INTERESTING LISTENING TO YOUR
  • 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.040
  • STORY, TOO, BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY
  • 00:51:26.040 --> 00:51:27.020
  • IN THE 80s, HERE YOU ARE --
  • 00:51:27.020 --> 00:51:28.100
  • YOU'RE IN A LIMO AND YOU GOT
  • 00:51:28.100 --> 00:51:29.010
  • YOUR HUNDRED-DOLLAR BILLS AND
  • 00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:29.220
  • YOUR--
  • 00:51:29.220 --> 00:51:31.230
  • YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT YOU GOT A
  • 00:51:31.230 --> 00:51:32.150
  • PAPER CUT ON A HUNDRED-DOLLAR
  • 00:51:32.150 --> 00:51:33.120
  • BILL.
  • 00:51:33.120 --> 00:51:34.240
  • THAT'S AN AMAZING...LINE--
  • 00:51:34.240 --> 00:51:35.130
  • ANYWAY.
  • 00:51:35.130 --> 00:51:35.230
  • AND YOU'RE THERE AND
  • 00:51:35.230 --> 00:51:36.210
  • "EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR PRICE,"
  • 00:51:36.210 --> 00:51:37.200
  • AND ALL THIS STUFF.
  • 00:51:37.200 --> 00:51:38.190
  • THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT TODAY
  • 00:51:38.190 --> 00:51:40.260
  • THAT REMINDS ME OF THE 80s AND
  • 00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:45.190
  • IT'S NOT JUST DONALD TRUMP.
  • 00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:46.090
  • IT'S, UH...THERE'S A...THERE'S
  • 00:51:46.090 --> 00:51:47.150
  • SOMETHING ABOUT--
  • 00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:48.080
  • [LAUGHING]
  • 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.280
  • YOU KNOW, THIS IS-- THE 80s, I
  • 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:52.190
  • KINDA FELT LIKE, WAS A VERY-- A
  • 00:51:52.190 --> 00:51:54.280
  • VERY, UM...YOU KNOW...VERY
  • 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:55.290
  • LUCRATIVE, VERY RAD TIME,
  • 00:51:55.290 --> 00:51:57.090
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:51:57.090 --> 00:51:58.160
  • I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NEON
  • 00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:00.160
  • LIGHTS AND MONEY AND
  • 00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:01.200
  • EVERYTHING'S BIG AND HUGE.
  • 00:52:01.200 --> 00:52:02.220
  • AND IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE
  • 00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:03.260
  • GETTING-- WE'RE EITHER THERE OR
  • 00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:05.220
  • IN THAT ERA AGAIN WHERE,
  • 00:52:05.220 --> 00:52:07.080
  • ESPECIALLY WITH INSTAGRAM AND
  • 00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:09.140
  • FACEBOOK, THERE'S SO MUCH...YOU
  • 00:52:09.140 --> 00:52:11.020
  • KNOW, WEALTH BEING SHOWN
  • 00:52:11.020 --> 00:52:13.000
  • EVERYWHERE.
  • 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:14.230
  • WE ARE NOW THE WEALTHIEST
  • 00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:15.270
  • COUNTRY WITH THE HIGHEST
  • 00:52:15.270 --> 00:52:17.130
  • STANDARD OF LIVING IN HUMAN
  • 00:52:17.130 --> 00:52:18.030
  • HISTORY.
  • 00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:19.090
  • - TED: MMH.
  • 00:52:19.090 --> 00:52:20.000
  • - BOBBY: AND YET, I FEEL LIKE
  • 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:21.010
  • PEOPLE ARE LONELY.
  • 00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:21.280
  • THERE'S DESPAIR.
  • 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.030
  • THERE'S THIS INSATIABILITY,
  • 00:52:23.030 --> 00:52:25.080
  • LIKE "IF I JUST GET MORE
  • 00:52:25.080 --> 00:52:26.010
  • MONEY..." OR "IF I'M JUST MORE
  • 00:52:26.010 --> 00:52:26.280
  • FAMOUS..."
  • 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:27.150
  • SO MANY OF OUR HIP-HOP SONGS
  • 00:52:27.150 --> 00:52:29.060
  • AND OTHER-- A LOT OF GREAT
  • 00:52:29.060 --> 00:52:30.120
  • MUSIC.
  • 00:52:30.120 --> 00:52:31.230
  • IT'S JUST LIKE: MONEY, MONEY,
  • 00:52:31.230 --> 00:52:32.140
  • MONEY.
  • 00:52:32.140 --> 00:52:33.050
  • WHAT DO YOU SAY, NOW THAT
  • 00:52:33.050 --> 00:52:33.290
  • YOU'VE KIND OF BEEN THERE AND
  • 00:52:33.290 --> 00:52:35.140
  • YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF
  • 00:52:35.140 --> 00:52:36.140
  • THIS, TO A CULTURE THAT REALLY
  • 00:52:36.140 --> 00:52:37.260
  • IDOLIZES MONEY, WEALTH, FAME?
  • 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:39.210
  • WHAT WORD DO YOU HAVE FOR
  • 00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:42.060
  • SOMEBODY THAT WANTS THAT OR
  • 00:52:42.060 --> 00:52:43.210
  • IS-- MAYBE THEY'RE THERE NOW
  • 00:52:43.210 --> 00:52:44.160
  • AND THEY'RE FEELING DESPERATE?
  • 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:45.240
  • - TED: WELL...I'LL QUOTE
  • 00:52:45.240 --> 00:52:46.280
  • JESUS.
  • 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:49.020
  • JESUS SAID IT'S EASIER FOR A
  • 00:52:49.020 --> 00:52:51.090
  • CAMEL TO PASS THROUGH THE EYE
  • 00:52:51.090 --> 00:52:54.020
  • OF A NEEDLE THAN FOR A RICH MAN
  • 00:52:54.020 --> 00:52:55.030
  • BECAUSE WHAT HE WAS SAYING
  • 00:52:57.230 --> 00:52:59.050
  • WAS...PEOPLE WHO BECOME VERY
  • 00:52:59.050 --> 00:53:01.150
  • RICH IN THIS WORLD, UH...THEY
  • 00:53:01.150 --> 00:53:03.180
  • CAN GET ANYTHING THEY WANT.
  • 00:53:03.180 --> 00:53:06.010
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:53:06.010 --> 00:53:07.190
  • - TED: AND THEY'LL JUST KEEP
  • 00:53:07.190 --> 00:53:09.000
  • GETTIN' THINGS AND THEY'LL KEEP
  • 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.160
  • GETTIN'--
  • 00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:11.170
  • AND IT'S LIKE: IF YOU'RE RICH,
  • 00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:13.030
  • YOU WANT MORE.
  • 00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:14.040
  • YOU WANT MORE.
  • 00:53:14.040 --> 00:53:14.280
  • BECAUSE REALITY IS...YOU'RE--
  • 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.000
  • IT'S INSATIABLE.
  • 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:17.190
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY
  • 00:53:17.190 --> 00:53:19.060
  • GETTING ANYTHING THAT'S REALLY
  • 00:53:19.060 --> 00:53:20.050
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:53:23.050 --> 00:53:24.020
  • - TED: UH...AND THEN, YOU
  • 00:53:24.020 --> 00:53:24.210
  • BECOME YOUR OWN GOD.
  • 00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:25.140
  • BECAUSE: WHY DO I NEED GOD?
  • 00:53:25.140 --> 00:53:26.090
  • BECAUSE I CAN GET ANYTHING I
  • 00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:26.290
  • WANT.
  • 00:53:26.290 --> 00:53:27.200
  • UH...AND, AGAIN, JESUS' WORDS:
  • 00:53:27.200 --> 00:53:29.180
  • "STORE UP FOR YOURSELF TREASURE
  • 00:53:29.180 --> 00:53:31.120
  • IN HEAVEN, WHERE NEITHER RUST
  • 00:53:31.120 --> 00:53:33.110
  • NOR MOTH...BREAK IN AND STEAL,
  • 00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:34.210
  • FOR WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS,
  • 00:53:34.210 --> 00:53:36.090
  • THERE WILL YOUR HEART BE,
  • 00:53:36.090 --> 00:53:36.280
  • ALSO."
  • 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:37.160
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:38.020
  • - TED: AND, IT'S LIKE-- SO, IF
  • 00:53:38.020 --> 00:53:39.050
  • YOUR TREASURE IS-- I MEAN, IT'S
  • 00:53:39.050 --> 00:53:40.270
  • LIKE I TELL GUYS.
  • 00:53:40.270 --> 00:53:42.090
  • I SAY: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:53:42.090 --> 00:53:43.130
  • ONE DAY, YOU'RE GONNA DIE.
  • 00:53:43.130 --> 00:53:44.110
  • HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A HEARSE
  • 00:53:44.110 --> 00:53:45.260
  • PULLIN' A U-HAUL TRAILER?
  • 00:53:45.260 --> 00:53:46.270
  • [BOBBY LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:48.150
  • YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YA.
  • 00:53:48.150 --> 00:53:49.170
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:53:49.170 --> 00:53:50.280
  • - TED: YOU KNOW-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.050
  • YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA DIE AND
  • 00:53:52.050 --> 00:53:53.080
  • SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA MOVE
  • 00:53:53.080 --> 00:53:54.180
  • INTO THAT HOUSE AND GONNA DRIVE
  • 00:53:54.180 --> 00:53:56.020
  • YOUR CAR AND SPEND YOUR MONEY.
  • 00:53:56.020 --> 00:53:57.090
  • - BOBBY: MM-HMM.
  • 00:53:57.090 --> 00:53:58.240
  • - TED: YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH
  • 00:53:58.240 --> 00:53:59.150
  • YOU.
  • 00:53:59.150 --> 00:53:59.250
  • - BOBBY: YEAH...I THINK IT'S
  • 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:01.020
  • SO TRUE.
  • 00:54:01.020 --> 00:54:02.000
  • AND, OF COURSE, THERE'S NOTHING
  • 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.090
  • WRONG WITH-- YOU KNOW, THERE'S
  • 00:54:03.090 --> 00:54:04.210
  • LOTS OF BUSINESSPEOPLE AND
  • 00:54:04.210 --> 00:54:05.260
  • WEALTHY PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:07.210
  • KNOW THE LORD.
  • 00:54:07.210 --> 00:54:08.210
  • UM, BUT THE TEMPTATION IS
  • 00:54:08.210 --> 00:54:10.000
  • ALWAYS THERE, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.070
  • - TED: OH--
  • 00:54:11.070 --> 00:54:11.290
  • - BOBBY: I MEAN, WHENEVER WE
  • 00:54:11.290 --> 00:54:13.010
  • HAVE AFFLUENCE AND WEALTH.
  • 00:54:13.010 --> 00:54:14.060
  • IN FACT, ACTUALLY, A LOT OF
  • 00:54:14.060 --> 00:54:15.250
  • AMERICANS TODAY ARE WEALTHY AND
  • 00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:16.290
  • THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.
  • 00:54:16.290 --> 00:54:17.170
  • WE SPEND ALL THIS TIME TALKING
  • 00:54:17.170 --> 00:54:18.210
  • ABOUT THE 1 PERCENT.
  • 00:54:18.210 --> 00:54:20.010
  • BUT IF YOU GO GLOBALLY, IF YOU
  • 00:54:20.010 --> 00:54:21.150
  • MAKE MORE THAN $32.000 A YEAR--
  • 00:54:21.150 --> 00:54:23.140
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:54:23.140 --> 00:54:24.270
  • - BOBBY: -YOU'RE A GLOBAL
  • 00:54:24.270 --> 00:54:25.160
  • ONE-PERCENTER.
  • 00:54:25.160 --> 00:54:26.070
  • - TED: RIGHT.
  • 00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:26.270
  • - BOBBY: UH...AND, UH, YOU
  • 00:54:26.270 --> 00:54:28.220
  • KNOW, MANY MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE
  • 00:54:28.220 --> 00:54:30.090
  • TODAY LIVE BETTER LIVES THAN
  • 00:54:30.090 --> 00:54:31.230
  • SOME OF THE KINGS AND QUEENS,
  • 00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:33.050
  • YOU KNOW, OF THE PAST,
  • 00:54:33.050 --> 00:54:35.070
  • BECAUSE WE HAVE MEDICINE AND
  • 00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:36.280
  • AIR-CONDITIONING.
  • 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:37.220
  • ALL THAT TO SIMPLY SAY THAT:
  • 00:54:37.220 --> 00:54:39.000
  • DOESN'T IT SEEM LIKE THERE'S NO
  • 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:40.220
  • LIMIT TO HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN
  • 00:54:40.220 --> 00:54:41.280
  • MAKE?
  • 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.100
  • IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:54:43.100 --> 00:54:44.000
  • I MEAN, THAT'S THE--
  • 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:44.280
  • - TED: IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:45.220
  • UH, YOU KNOW...AND I-- I
  • 00:54:45.220 --> 00:54:46.150
  • REALIZED THAT.
  • 00:54:46.150 --> 00:54:47.150
  • I, YOU KNOW...
  • 00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:48.150
  • UM...
  • 00:54:48.150 --> 00:54:49.250
  • YOU KNOW, AND I REALIZED THAT,
  • 00:54:49.250 --> 00:54:52.250
  • YOU KNOW, MY-- YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:54:52.250 --> 00:54:54.150
  • SAID--
  • 00:54:54.150 --> 00:54:55.010
  • PEOPLE ASK ME, THEY SAID, "TED,
  • 00:54:55.010 --> 00:54:56.010
  • ARE YOU REALLY THE MILLION
  • 00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:57.070
  • DOLLAR MAN?"
  • 00:54:57.070 --> 00:54:57.220
  • I SAID, "NO."
  • 00:54:57.220 --> 00:54:58.080
  • I SAID, "BUT MY DADDY OWNS THE
  • 00:54:58.080 --> 00:54:59.180
  • CATTLE ON A THOUSAND HILLS."
  • 00:54:59.180 --> 00:55:00.190
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:55:00.190 --> 00:55:01.150
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:02.140
  • - TED: YOU KNOW, MY--
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  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:03.120 --> 00:55:03.280
  • YOU KNOW, MY LORD--
  • 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.280
  • AND I--
  • 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:05.120
  • YOU KNOW, MY WEALTH IS IN MY
  • 00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:07.120
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST--
  • 00:55:07.120 --> 00:55:08.260
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:55:08.260 --> 00:55:10.080
  • - TED: --AND MY FAMILY.
  • 00:55:10.080 --> 00:55:10.260
  • - BOBBY: THAT'S RIGHT, TED.
  • 00:55:10.260 --> 00:55:12.020
  • WELL, TED, I KNOW THAT THERE'S
  • 00:55:12.020 --> 00:55:13.090
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
  • 00:55:13.090 --> 00:55:14.220
  • WATCHING TONIGHT THAT HAVE BEEN
  • 00:55:14.220 --> 00:55:15.270
  • TOUCHED BY YOUR STORY, MAYBE
  • 00:55:15.270 --> 00:55:17.000
  • EVEN SOME INFLUENCERS, FAMOUS
  • 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:18.070
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:55:18.070 --> 00:55:20.170
  • BUT I ALSO WANNA THINK ABOUT,
  • 00:55:20.170 --> 00:55:21.270
  • UH, WIVES THAT ARE GOING
  • 00:55:21.270 --> 00:55:24.130
  • THROUGH A HARD TIME WITH THEIR
  • 00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:25.180
  • HUSBANDS, OR HUSBANDS THAT
  • 00:55:25.180 --> 00:55:27.000
  • WANNA LEAD THEIR FAMILY BUT
  • 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:28.280
  • THEY'VE REALLY MESSED UP.
  • 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:29.250
  • CAN YOU TAKE JUST A MOMENT AND
  • 00:55:29.250 --> 00:55:31.150
  • PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING
  • 00:55:31.150 --> 00:55:32.250
  • ON TELEVISION?
  • 00:55:32.250 --> 00:55:33.290
  • - TED: YEAH.
  • 00:55:35.130 --> 00:55:38.130
  • OH, HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD, I
  • 00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:39.030
  • LIFT UP ALL OF THOSE...THE
  • 00:55:39.030 --> 00:55:39.270
  • WIVES OUT THERE, THE HUSBANDS
  • 00:55:39.270 --> 00:55:41.080
  • THAT ARE IN TURMOIL.
  • 00:55:41.080 --> 00:55:43.180
  • THEIR MARRIAGES AREN'T WHAT
  • 00:55:43.180 --> 00:55:44.180
  • THEY NEED TO BE.
  • 00:55:44.180 --> 00:55:45.170
  • LORD, I PRAY FOR THEM.
  • 00:55:45.170 --> 00:55:47.090
  • I LIFT THEM UP TO YOU, RIGHT
  • 00:55:47.090 --> 00:55:48.120
  • NOW.
  • 00:55:48.120 --> 00:55:49.070
  • AND I ASK YOU, DEAR LORD, THAT
  • 00:55:49.070 --> 00:55:50.100
  • YOU WOULD...THAT YOU WOULD
  • 00:55:50.100 --> 00:55:53.050
  • TOUCH THEM, LORD; THAT YOU
  • 00:55:53.050 --> 00:55:53.260
  • WOULD CROSS THEIR PATH WITH
  • 00:55:53.260 --> 00:55:55.060
  • THOSE THAT CAN BRING THEM REST
  • 00:55:55.080 --> 00:55:58.080
  • AND BRING THEM PEACE
  • 00:55:58.080 --> 00:55:59.240
  • AND LEAD THEM TO YOU.
  • 00:55:59.240 --> 00:56:01.090
  • BECAUSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
  • 00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.010
  • LORD, TRUE HAPPINESS CAN ONLY
  • 00:56:03.010 --> 00:56:05.120
  • BE FOUND IN ONE PLACE.
  • 00:56:05.120 --> 00:56:07.130
  • AND THAT ONE PLACE IS IN YOU
  • 00:56:07.130 --> 00:56:08.220
  • AND IN JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:56:08.220 --> 00:56:10.010
  • SO, LORD, I PRAY FOR THOSE OUT
  • 00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:12.060
  • THERE WHO DON'T KNOW YOU, LORD,
  • 00:56:12.060 --> 00:56:14.160
  • THAT, UH...THAT IN THIS MOMENT,
  • 00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:16.220
  • MAYBE THROUGH MY STORY OR WHAT
  • 00:56:16.220 --> 00:56:18.160
  • I'VE GONE THROUGH--
  • 00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:19.180
  • UH, THE FACT THAT TODAY,
  • 00:56:19.180 --> 00:56:21.080
  • ALTHOUGH I WENT THROUGH A
  • 00:56:21.080 --> 00:56:22.110
  • HORRIBLE TIME, THAT I AM-- I'M
  • 00:56:22.110 --> 00:56:23.170
  • AS HAPPY WITH MY WIFE AS I EVER
  • 00:56:23.170 --> 00:56:25.110
  • COULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT'S FOR
  • 00:56:25.110 --> 00:56:26.140
  • ONE REASON.
  • 00:56:26.140 --> 00:56:27.160
  • WE CHOSE TO DEVOTE OURSELVES
  • 00:56:27.160 --> 00:56:29.150
  • AND SUBMIT OURSELVES
  • 00:56:30.010 --> 00:56:33.010
  • TOTALLY TO YOU.
  • 00:56:33.010 --> 00:56:33.160
  • SO, I PRAY FOR YOU OUT THERE,
  • 00:56:33.160 --> 00:56:34.070
  • FOLKS.
  • 00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:34.190
  • IF YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS, THEN
  • 00:56:34.190 --> 00:56:36.270
  • GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
  • 00:56:36.270 --> 00:56:39.230
  • BECAUSE HE SAYS, "I STAND AT
  • 00:56:39.230 --> 00:56:41.020
  • THE DOOR AND KNOCK."
  • 00:56:41.020 --> 00:56:42.030
  • IF YOU OPEN THAT DOOR, HE'LL
  • 00:56:42.030 --> 00:56:43.120
  • COME IN AND HE'LL SUP WITH YOU.
  • 00:56:43.120 --> 00:56:46.090
  • HE'LL DO THE SAME THING FOR YOU
  • 00:56:46.090 --> 00:56:47.010
  • THAT HE'S DONE FOR ME AND MY
  • 00:56:47.010 --> 00:56:47.220
  • WIFE AND MY FAMILY.
  • 00:56:47.220 --> 00:56:48.080
  • - BOBBY: WELL, THAT'S THE
  • 00:56:48.080 --> 00:56:50.220
  • STORY FROM TED DIBIASE, THE
  • 00:56:50.220 --> 00:56:51.260
  • MILLION DOLLAR MAN.
  • 00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:53.080
  • [APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:56:53.080 --> 00:56:54.010
  • TED, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
  • 00:56:54.010 --> 00:56:55.130
  • BEING WITH US, TONIGHT.
  • 00:56:55.130 --> 00:56:58.070
  • I KNOW IT'S GONNA TOUCH A LOT
  • 00:56:58.070 --> 00:56:58.280
  • OF LIVES.
  • 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.200
  • [LOUD APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
  • 00:57:01.200 --> 00:57:02.200