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  • FROM LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA,
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  • "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING
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  • AUTHOR OF "THE SHACK,"
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  • WILLIAM PAUL YOUNG.
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  • NEXT ON PRAISE!
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  • IT IS MARCH 5, 2017.
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  • WE HAVE JUST ENJOYED 4 EPISODES
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  • THAT PREMIERED RIGHT HERE ON
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  • TBN, EPISODES ONE THROUGH FOUR.
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  • PAUL YOUNG, IF YOU AND I WERE
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  • BIGGER PEOPLE.
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  • - AS IN HEIGHTH?
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  • - BIGGER IN GENERAL AND IF
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  • BOOKS WERE FOOTBALLS, WE WOULD
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  • SPIKE THE FOOTBALL.
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  • WE ARE CELEBRATING.
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  • THIS IS A GREAT DAY.
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  • - WHAT WE ARE CELEBRATING,
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  • EVERY PERSON WHO WALKS INTO THE
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  • THEATER AND HAS AN ENCOUNTER.
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  • THAT IS WHAT I WANTED WITH THE
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  • BOOK WHEN IT STARTED TO BECOME
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  • PUBLIC.
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  • IT DID EVERYTHING I WANTED TO DO
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  • WHEN I GAVE IT TO MY KIDS, WHEN
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  • PEOPLE KNOW THERE STUFF MATTERS
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  • AND GOD MEETS THEM THERE.
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  • - IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, THEY
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  • ARE COMING UP AGAIN, FIRST FOUR
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  • EPISODES OF "THE SHACK," FIRST
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  • FOUR EPISODES JUST AIRED ON TBN.
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  • THEY ARE GOING TO AIR AGAIN,
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  • RESTORING "THE SHACK."
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  • WE WANTED TO TAKE YOU AND LET
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  • YOU UNPACK EVERYTHING THAT YOU
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  • WROTE IN THE BOOK AND THAT IS
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  • WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT.
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  • WE JUST HAPPENED TO DEBUT THEM
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  • ON A VERY, VERY CELEBRATORY
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  • EXCITING WEEKEND THAT THE MOVIE,
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  • "THE SHACK," LET'S PAUSE FOR A
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  • SECOND AND SAY, GILL AND LANNY,
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  • IF YOU ARE WATCHING, LET ME DO
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  • THIS.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • LET ME SAY SOMETHING.
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  • WHAT GIL NETTER A VETERAN
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  • PRODUCER GOOD FRIEND OF OURS,
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  • AMAZING GUY, DID, WAS TOOK THE
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  • IMPOSSIBLE, PAUL.
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  • THE BOOK "THE SHACK" WAS THE
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  • IMPOSSIBLE MOVIE.
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  • HOW HE TOOK IT DUG INTO IT CARED
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  • ABOUT IT, LOVED IT, FOUGHT FOR
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  • IT CHANGED THE MUSIC A COUPLE
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  • TIMES TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING
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  • WAS RIGHT, I'M TELLING YOU, "THE
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  • SHACK" IS IN THEATERS.
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  • IT IS AN AMAZING FILM.
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  • IT WAS AMAZINGLY HARD TO DO.
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  • I'M JUST SAYING CONGRATULATIONS
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  • TO THE TEAM, LIONS GATE.
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  • EVERYONE PART OF THIS FILM.
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  • COOCONGRATULATIONS.
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  • IT IS BEATING EXPECTATIONS.
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  • IF YOU ARE WATCHING THIS TURN
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  • OFF YOUR TV, GO SEE THE MOVIE.
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  • "THE SHACK" IS IN THEATERS, IT
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  • IS BLOWING UP WE ARE PROUD OF
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  • EVERYONE INVOLVED.
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  • - I AGREE.
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  • PART OF THE BEAUTY GIL AND
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  • STEWARD HAZEL DEAN AND ALL THESE
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  • FOLKS, THEY BROUGHT THEIR HEARTS
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  • TO THIS THING.
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  • LIONS GATE DID TOO.
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  • YOU HAVE A MAJOR MOVIE HOUSE
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  • THAT CALLED ME UP AND SAID WOULD
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  • YOU CONSIDER COMING ON THE FIRST
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  • DAY'S SET AND PRAYING A BLESSING
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  • OVER THE ENTIRE CAST AND CREW.
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  • THEY SAID WE DON'T JUST SEE THIS
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  • AS ANOTHER MOVIE, THIS HAS THE
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  • POTENTIAL TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
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  • SO THAT IS THE FRAMING AROUND
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  • ALL THIS.
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  • - WHEN YOU SAY THIS HAS
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  • POTENTIAL TO CHANGE THE WORLD,
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  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
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  • WHAT-- WE-- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT
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  • PAUL YOUNG AUTHOR OF "THE SHACK"
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  • SOLD 22 MILLION BOOKS THE NUMBER
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  • 65 OR 68 SELLING BOOK OF ALL
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  • TIMES.
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  • WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME--
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  • - IT IS THE NUMBER ONE NOW FOR
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  • THE LAST LITTLE WHILE.
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  • I'M SURE THE MOVIE-- BUT, IT FOR
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  • ANYONE TO HIT NEW YORK BEST
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  • SELLER STAY FOR 69 WEEKS, IT IS
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  • BACK AGAIN.
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  • - I WROTE IT IN 2005.
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  • - IT IS "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST
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  • SELLER AND IT IS 2017.
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  • NOT SURE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
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  • WHEN YOU SAY YOU WANT TO CHANGE
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  • THE WORLD WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE
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  • TO YOU?
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  • - THE WORLD ONLY CHANGES ONE
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  • HEART AT A TIME.
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  • THIS IS ABOUT THE CHANGE WE
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  • EXPLORE WITHIN OURSELVES.
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  • IF WE DON'T DO THE WORK TOGETHER
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  • IN SOME SENSE OF COMMUNITY THE
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  • WORLD AROUND US WILL NOT CHANGE.
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  • LET ME TELL A STORY.
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  • AT ONE OF THE SCREENINGS, WE DID
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  • IT FOR A LARGE DENOMINATIONAL
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  • LEADERSHIP GROUP.
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  • DURING THE SIGNING LINE I WAS
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  • SIGNING BOOKS AFTERWARDS, A
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  • PASTOR FROM FLINT, MICHIGAN
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  • NAMED JONES AND HIS WIFE WAS
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  • JOYCE.
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  • I HAVE THEIR PERMISSION TO TALK
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  • ABOUT THIS.
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  • HE COMES IN THE LINE, HE IS
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  • EMOTIONAL.
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  • THIS IS AFTER WE SAW THE
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  • SCREENING.
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  • HE SAID TO ME, I CAN'T BELIEVE
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  • IT TOOK A MOVIE TO FREE ME FROM
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  • THE GUILTY HAVE BEEN
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  • EXPERIENCING THE LAST TEN YEARS.
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  • I'M LOOKING AT HIM GOING, WHAT
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  • ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
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  • HE SAID IN THE LAST TEN YEARS WE
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  • LOST TWO OF OUR DAUGHTERS, TEN
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  • YEARS AGO WE HAD A DAUGHTER
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  • STRUGGLING.
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  • SHE ASKED FOR HELP.
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  • SHE PUSHED US AWAY AND ASKED FOR
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  • HELP.
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  • ONE NIGHT SHE CALLED UP SAID I
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  • NEED HELP MOVING.
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  • I HAD CHURCH WORK TO DO.
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  • I PUSHED HER AWAY.
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  • THAT NIGHT WHILE MOVING SHE WAS
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  • BRUTALLY RAPED AND MURDERED.
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  • FOR TEN YEARS I HAVE BEEN
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  • UNDERNEATH THAT.
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  • WELL, WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF
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  • CHANCE TO TALK.
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  • I DID MEET HIS WIFE.
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  • LATER THOSE WHO COORDINATED THAT
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  • EVENT WERE DOING VIDEO TAPES
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  • THEY DID AN INTERVIEW AND FELL
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  • APART.
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  • I WAS TOLD, IF THIS MOVIE WAS
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  • ONLY FOR THEM, THIS IS ENOUGH.
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  • AND HERE IS THE BEAUTY OF A GOD
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  • WHO IS GOOD ALL THE TIME
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  • INVOLVED IN THE DETAILS OF OUR
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  • LIFE.
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  • I GO TO THE LITTLE ROCK AIRPORT
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  • TO FLY TO ATLANTA TO BACK TO
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  • PORTLANPORTLAND, OREGON.
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  • I'M ON ROW 12, I'M HOPING
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  • BECAUSE OF MY DELTA CREDENTIALS
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  • I COULD GET BUMPED UP.
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  • IT WAS AN EMPTY SEAT.
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  • THERE IS A BUNCH OF STAND BYES,
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  • THE LAST PERSON TO GET ON THE
  • 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:37.140
  • FLIGHT, A WOMAN, SHE SITS NEXT
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  • TO ME.
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  • SHE GOT 3 BAGS I'M HELPING HER
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  • HIDE A COUPLE OF THEM.
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  • SHE SITS DOWN.
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  • THE GAL MA'AM PAM IN THE ROW IT
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  • OF US SHE LOOKED UP AND SAID I'M
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  • HALF WAY THROUGH CHAPTER ONE.
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  • SHE LOOKED THROUGH THE CRACK IN
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  • THE SEAT.
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  • TO THE WOMAN NEXT TO ME.
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  • SHE SAID YOU HAVE THE BEST SEAT
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  • IN THE HOUSE.
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  • THE GAL GOES, WHAT?
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  • SHE POINTS AND SAYS, THAT IS THE
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  • AUTHOR OF "THE SHACK."
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  • THIS WOMAN TURNS TO ME AND
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  • STARTS TO MELT.
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  • IT IS JOYCE JONES.
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  • ONE SEAT CAME OPEN, AND KEFLIN
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  • INSISTED SHE TAKE IT INSTEAD OF
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  • THEM BOTH TAKING THE FLIGHT.
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  • YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SEAT.
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  • THE LAST PERSON SITS NEXT TO ME
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  • FOR AN HOUR AND WE GET TO UNPACK
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  • THIS.
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  • TWO DAYS LATER I GET A PHONE
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  • CALL FROM KEFLIN.
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  • I GAVE JOYCE MY CONTACT
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  • INFORMATION.
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  • HE IS LIKE-- I GIVE HER MY
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  • CONTACT INFORMATION CE KEFLIN CS
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  • ME.
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  • PAUL, HE SAID, FOR TWO NIGHTS MY
  • 00:08:55.110 --> 00:08:58.060
  • LIFE HAS SLEPT WITHOUT
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  • NIGHTMARES.
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  • I HAVE GONE TO BED IN THE
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  • EMBRACE OF GOD WITH NO GUILT.
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  • FIRST TIME IN TEN YEARS.
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  • HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS
  • 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.290
  • WILL SPILL INTO MY CONGREGATION
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  • INTO MY COMMUNITY OF FAITH,
  • 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:14.190
  • BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN CARRYING
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  • THIS TEN YEARS.
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  • I KNOW, I HURT PEOPLE BECAUSE I
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  • COULD NOT LET IT GO, I COULD NOT
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  • DEAL WITH IT.
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  • IT IS BECAUSE OF A MOVIE, RIGHT?
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  • THAT IS HOW THINGS CHANGED.
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  • - THAT IS CHANGING THE WORLD.
  • 00:09:27.260 --> 00:09:30.180
  • I TELL YOU WHAT, WATCHING THE
  • 00:09:31.260 --> 00:09:34.260
  • FILM, I HAVE BEEN GETTING PEOPLE
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  • TEXTING ALL WEEKEND, EVEN MY MOM
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  • SAID, I BALLED THROUGH THE WHOLE
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  • THING.
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  • YOU COULD HAVE HEARD A PIN DROP
  • 00:09:46.280 --> 00:09:49.080
  • IN THAT PLACE.
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  • THAT IS EVERYBODY TEXTING.
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  • WHEN I SAW THE MOVIE, I LOVE
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  • THINGS THAT PUSH SOMEONE TOWARDS
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  • GOD.
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  • LIKE JESUS SAYING COME, COME ON,
  • 00:10:03.060 --> 00:10:05.140
  • YOU KNOW.
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  • AND, I THOUGHT, WITH ALL THE
  • 00:10:09.280 --> 00:10:12.280
  • NAYSAYERS, ABOUT GOD BEING A
  • 00:10:12.280 --> 00:10:15.020
  • WOMAN, OH, IT IS A STORY.
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  • ALL I COULD THINK OF, SOMEONE
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  • CAN LEAV LEAVE THERE THE HARDEST
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  • SINNERS AND AT SOME TIME IN
  • 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:30.120
  • THEIR LIFE HAVE A MOMENT MAYBE
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  • GOD IS GOOD MAYBE GOD IS WITH ME
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  • THAT IS WHAT IS CHANGING THE
  • 00:10:35.280 --> 00:10:38.090
  • WORLD IS GIVING THEM A TASTE OF
  • 00:10:38.090 --> 00:10:40.260
  • GOD.
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  • HE SAID, TASTE AND SEE THE LORD
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  • IS GOOD.
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  • I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS MOVIE
  • 00:10:45.180 --> 00:10:48.080
  • DOES.
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  • IT SAYS COME.
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  • I'M HERE.
  • 00:10:50.050 --> 00:10:50.250
  • I HAVE BEEN THERE.
  • 00:10:50.250 --> 00:10:52.040
  • I WAS THERE.
  • 00:10:52.040 --> 00:10:53.070
  • I'M WITH YOU.
  • 00:10:53.070 --> 00:10:54.070
  • YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
  • 00:10:54.070 --> 00:10:56.010
  • MAN, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT AND DO
  • 00:10:58.110 --> 00:11:01.130
  • THAT NO TO MOVIE GOERS THAT WILL
  • 00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:06.140
  • CHANGE THE WORLD.
  • 00:11:06.140 --> 00:11:07.280
  • - MC KEMCKENZIE BRINGS HIS BAG.
  • 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.080
  • HE DOES NOT RESOLVE.
  • 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:16.100
  • SO PART OF IT IS, WHAT DO YOU DO
  • 00:11:16.100 --> 00:11:18.280
  • WITH UP FORGIVENESS WHEN YOU
  • 00:11:18.280 --> 00:11:20.230
  • HAVE BEEN TRULY HURT?
  • 00:11:20.230 --> 00:11:22.140
  • HOW DO YOU LEARN TO LET THAT GO?
  • 00:11:22.140 --> 00:11:24.200
  • BECAUSE IT IS LIKE CARRYING A
  • 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.040
  • CORPSE ON YOUR BACK POISONING
  • 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:30.080
  • EVERYONE YOU COME IN CONTACT
  • 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:31.210
  • WITH.
  • 00:11:31.210 --> 00:11:32.000
  • WHAT DO WE DO?
  • 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.000
  • YOU GET TO WATCH IT, EMBODIED IN
  • 00:11:33.010 --> 00:11:36.010
  • A HUMAN BEING INSIDE SOMETHING
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:37.170
  • THAT IS THE MOST DEVASTATING
  • 00:11:37.170 --> 00:11:39.230
  • LOSS A HUMAN BEING CAN
  • 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:41.090
  • EXPERIENCE THE LOSS BETWEEN A
  • 00:11:41.090 --> 00:11:42.240
  • PARENT AND CHILD.
  • 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:43.260
  • AND, BY THE WAY, A LOSS GOD
  • 00:11:43.260 --> 00:11:46.230
  • KNOWS INTIMATELY.
  • 00:11:46.230 --> 00:11:48.070
  • I THINK WHEN YOU GO TO THAT
  • 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:50.100
  • DEPTH OF LOSS, IT ASKS NOT ONLY
  • 00:11:51.110 --> 00:11:54.110
  • THE BEST QUESTIONS BUT IT PICKS
  • 00:11:54.110 --> 00:11:57.080
  • UP EVERY LOSS ALONG THE WAY.
  • 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.040
  • THE BOOK DID THAT I THINK THE
  • 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:00.290
  • MOVIE WILL DO THAT TOO.
  • 00:12:00.290 --> 00:12:02.210
  • - IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, IT IS
  • 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.120
  • MARCH 5.
  • 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.110
  • 2017.
  • 00:12:08.110 --> 00:12:08.200
  • WE WANT TO FIRST OF ALL SAY WE
  • 00:12:10.220 --> 00:12:13.220
  • ARE SITTING HERE ENJOYING OUR
  • 00:12:13.220 --> 00:12:16.030
  • TIME TOGETHER.
  • 00:12:16.030 --> 00:12:17.080
  • WE ARE ENJOYING THIS WEEKEND.
  • 00:12:17.290 --> 00:12:20.290
  • WE ARE ENJOYING THE IDEA THAT
  • 00:12:22.160 --> 00:12:25.160
  • THE EPISODES ARE ON TBN, THEY
  • 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:28.210
  • WILL REPLAY THIS EVENING AS YOU
  • 00:12:28.210 --> 00:12:30.170
  • ARE WATCHING.
  • 00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:31.230
  • WE ARE SITTING HERE WITH PAUL
  • 00:12:31.230 --> 00:12:34.000
  • YOUNG.
  • 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:34.090
  • THERE IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF WAYS
  • 00:12:34.090 --> 00:12:36.280
  • TO DESCRIBE YOU.
  • 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.000
  • YOU ARE AN AUTHOR.
  • 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.030
  • IF YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE
  • 00:12:45.030 --> 00:12:47.120
  • SITTING HERE NOW AS THE GUY THAT
  • 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.090
  • WROTE THE BOOK THAT SOLD OVER
  • 00:12:49.290 --> 00:12:52.290
  • 22 MILLION COPIES, THAT IS "NEW
  • 00:12:53.280 --> 00:12:56.280
  • YORK TIMES" FOREVER BEST SELLER,
  • 00:12:56.280 --> 00:12:59.090
  • NOW THE MOVIE IS A SMASH SUCCESS
  • 00:12:59.090 --> 00:13:02.030
  • AND A HIT.
  • 00:13:02.030 --> 00:13:03.180
  • OUT PERFORMING, WE WERE READING
  • 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:06.210
  • THINGS, TODAY, WE ARE SHOOTING
  • 00:13:06.210 --> 00:13:08.130
  • THIS TODAY WE ARE IN THE STUDIO,
  • 00:13:08.130 --> 00:13:11.060
  • HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU HERE?
  • 00:13:11.060 --> 00:13:13.020
  • YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS
  • 00:13:13.020 --> 00:13:15.060
  • THING, THIS MOVIE, YOU ARE
  • 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:16.230
  • SITTING WITH US ON SUNDAY.
  • 00:13:16.230 --> 00:13:19.040
  • - YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:20.200
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:21.010
  • WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE
  • 00:13:21.010 --> 00:13:23.210
  • ARE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:13:23.210 --> 00:13:24.250
  • TBN HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:13:25.050 --> 00:13:28.050
  • EMBRACE AROUND "THE SHACK" AND
  • 00:13:28.050 --> 00:13:30.080
  • AROUND THIS.
  • 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.160
  • THE IDEA OF RESTORING "THE
  • 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:34.170
  • SHACK" ORIGINATED WITH YOU ALL.
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:36.130
  • AND YOU CAME AND HAD THAT
  • 00:13:36.130 --> 00:13:38.180
  • CONVERSATION WITH ME.
  • 00:13:38.180 --> 00:13:40.030
  • WE HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR AWHILE.
  • 00:13:40.160 --> 00:13:43.160
  • IT IS A KINDNESS TO BE HERE.
  • 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:45.250
  • THE SKILL AND THE BEAUTY YOU
  • 00:13:45.250 --> 00:13:48.180
  • BROUGHT AND BEING ABLE TO SHOOT
  • 00:13:48.180 --> 00:13:49.270
  • IT IN MONTANA, THE BIG SKY
  • 00:13:50.260 --> 00:13:53.260
  • COUNTRY IT HAS BEEN A GIFT OF
  • 00:13:53.260 --> 00:13:55.220
  • GRACE TO ME AND MY FAMILY.
  • 00:13:55.220 --> 00:13:58.210
  • WHY WON'T I BE HERE?
  • 00:13:58.210 --> 00:14:00.110
  • THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO
  • 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.240
  • CELEBRATE.
  • 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:04.050
  • - THE FIRST TIME WE MET, PAUL,
  • 00:14:04.050 --> 00:14:06.050
  • WAS YEARS AGO.
  • 00:14:06.050 --> 00:14:07.020
  • I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN.
  • 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:09.060
  • - AFTER "THE SHACK" CAME OUT.
  • 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:12.080
  • - I REMEMBER, GENTLY GRABBING
  • 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:15.010
  • YOU AND SAYING, WE HAVE GOT TO
  • 00:14:15.280 --> 00:14:18.280
  • DO THINGS TOGETHER.
  • 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:20.010
  • I TOLD MATT, I COULD LISTEN TO
  • 00:14:20.010 --> 00:14:22.160
  • HIM, TAKE HIM OUTSIDE, WALK
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:25.000
  • AROUND AND JUST TALK.
  • 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:26.090
  • THAT IS WHAT I LOVED ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:14:26.090 --> 00:14:28.150
  • WE DID THAT IN MONTANA.
  • 00:14:28.150 --> 00:14:30.280
  • YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS
  • 00:14:30.280 --> 00:14:32.140
  • SERIES WE HAVE.
  • 00:14:32.140 --> 00:14:33.160
  • IT WILL HELP.
  • 00:14:33.160 --> 00:14:35.150
  • - THERE IS A CHANCE, SMALL
  • 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:38.190
  • CHANCE, THERE IS A CHANCE YOU
  • 00:14:38.190 --> 00:14:40.200
  • ARE TUNED IN RIGHT NOW TO
  • 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.220
  • TRINITY AND YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT
  • 00:14:42.220 --> 00:14:45.140
  • THE BOOK OR THE MOVIE OR PAUL
  • 00:14:45.210 --> 00:14:48.210
  • YOUNG.
  • 00:14:48.210 --> 00:14:49.000
  • IF THAT IS THE CASE WE HAVE A
  • 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.040
  • BUY ABIO ON HIM WE WANT YOU TO W
  • 00:14:52.170 --> 00:14:55.170
  • HIM MORE, WATCH, THIS WE WILL BE
  • 00:14:55.170 --> 00:14:57.240
  • RIGHT BACK WE ARE CELEBRATING
  • 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.240
  • "THE SHACK" RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:00.220
  • WATCH THIS.
  • 00:15:03.280 --> 00:15:06.280
  • WILLIAM PAUL YOUNG USED TO WRITE
  • 00:15:06.280 --> 00:15:07.210
  • AS A WAY TO CREATE UNIQUE GIFTS
  • 00:15:07.210 --> 00:15:08.150
  • FOR HIS FRIENDS, UNTIL HIS WIFE
  • 00:15:08.150 --> 00:15:10.000
  • URGED HIM TO WRITE SOMETHING FOR
  • 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:11.140
  • THEIR SIX CHILDREN.
  • 00:15:11.140 --> 00:15:13.040
  • IT WAS SIMPLY A WAY TO TEACH
  • 00:15:13.040 --> 00:15:15.040
  • THEM ABOUT GOD AND YOUNG'S LIFE
  • 00:15:15.040 --> 00:15:16.180
  • EXPERIENCES.
  • 00:15:16.180 --> 00:15:18.170
  • HE FOLLOWED SUIT, TELLING THE
  • 00:15:18.170 --> 00:15:19.260
  • UNIQUE STORY OF THE FIRST DECADE
  • 00:15:19.260 --> 00:15:21.120
  • OF HIS LIFE, RAISED AMONG A
  • 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:22.270
  • STONE AGE TRIBE BY MISSIONARY
  • 00:15:22.270 --> 00:15:24.060
  • PARENTS IN THE HIGHLANDS OF
  • 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:25.130
  • NETHERLANDS NEW GUINEA.
  • 00:15:25.130 --> 00:15:27.170
  • THE RESULTING MANUSCRIPT, "THE
  • 00:15:27.170 --> 00:15:28.250
  • SHACK", EVENTUALLY BECAME A
  • 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:30.250
  • NUMBER ONE "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST
  • 00:15:30.250 --> 00:15:33.060
  • SELLER, AND RECENTLY, A FEATURE
  • 00:15:33.060 --> 00:15:34.110
  • FILM STARRING SAM WORTHINGTON
  • 00:15:34.110 --> 00:15:35.160
  • AND OCTAVIA SPENCER.
  • 00:15:35.160 --> 00:15:37.120
  • YOUNG IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF
  • 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.170
  • "CROSSROADS,"
  • 00:15:38.170 --> 00:15:40.070
  • "EVE," AND SOON TO BE RELEASED
  • 00:15:40.070 --> 00:15:41.190
  • "LIES WE BELIEVE ABOUT GOD."
  • 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:43.140
  • IN HIS LATEST WORK, HE EXPOSES
  • 00:15:43.140 --> 00:15:45.190
  • THE DECEPTIONS WHICH KEEP US
  • 00:15:45.190 --> 00:15:47.060
  • FROM HAVING A FULL, LOVING
  • 00:15:47.060 --> 00:15:48.110
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
  • 00:15:48.110 --> 00:15:50.100
  • HIS BOOKS AND EXPERIENCES
  • 00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:52.040
  • REFLECT A SIMPLE MESSAGE, LIFE
  • 00:15:52.040 --> 00:15:53.260
  • IS AN ADVENTURE OF FAITH THAT
  • 00:15:53.260 --> 00:15:55.160
  • CAN ONLY BE EXPERIENCED THROUGH
  • 00:15:55.160 --> 00:15:56.140
  • GRACE.
  • 00:15:56.140 --> 00:15:57.170
  • HERE NOW TO UNFOLD HIS
  • 00:15:57.170 --> 00:15:58.140
  • INCREDIBLE STORY,
  • 00:15:58.140 --> 00:15:59.000
  • WILLIAM PAUL YOUNG.
  • 00:16:02.150 --> 00:16:05.150
  • - HIS STORY IS UNFOLDING.
  • 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:08.030
  • HIS NAME IS PAUL YOUNG.
  • 00:16:10.110 --> 00:16:13.110
  • - WHAT A PLEASURE TO BE SITTING
  • 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:15.270
  • WITH YOU HERE ON SUNDAY
  • 00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:19.090
  • CELEBRATING THE FACT "THE SHACK"
  • 00:16:19.090 --> 00:16:20.190
  • IS IN THEATERS NOW, GO SEE IT.
  • 00:16:20.190 --> 00:16:23.080
  • AND IT IS A SUCCESS.
  • 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.250
  • GIL NETTER, GREAT JOB.
  • 00:16:26.110 --> 00:16:29.110
  • UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:16:29.110 --> 00:16:29.240
  • LIONS GATE, GREAT JOB.
  • 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.210
  • THE IMPOSSIBLE MOVIE CAME TO
  • 00:16:31.210 --> 00:16:33.080
  • LIFE THEY DID AN AMAZING JOB
  • 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.020
  • WITH IT.
  • 00:16:35.020 --> 00:16:36.230
  • NOW, IT IS A LITTLE AWKWARD TO
  • 00:16:37.010 --> 00:16:40.010
  • BE SITTING WITH YOU-- I WILL
  • 00:16:41.150 --> 00:16:44.150
  • FINISH MY STATEMENT.
  • 00:16:44.150 --> 00:16:46.280
  • I WAS TAKING A PREGNANT PAUSE TO
  • 00:16:46.280 --> 00:16:49.160
  • MAKE YOU SHIFT IN YOUR SEAT.
  • 00:16:49.160 --> 00:16:51.050
  • IT IS AWKWARD SITTING HERE
  • 00:16:51.050 --> 00:16:53.250
  • HOLDING UP A BOOK THAT IS NOT
  • 00:16:56.280 --> 00:16:59.280
  • NAMED SHACK WITH YOU.
  • 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:00.290
  • YOU ARE SIN MU SYNONYMOUS WITH E
  • 00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:05.110
  • SHACK," YOU HAVE THE LUMBER JACK
  • 00:17:05.110 --> 00:17:08.020
  • LOOK.
  • 00:17:08.020 --> 00:17:08.110
  • WE HAVE THE BARN WOOD GOING ON,
  • 00:17:08.150 --> 00:17:11.150
  • IT IS YOUR NEW BOOK.
  • 00:17:11.150 --> 00:17:13.000
  • IT WILL BE EVERYWHERE IN A FEW
  • 00:17:13.070 --> 00:17:16.070
  • DAYS WE GET A JUMP ON IT.
  • 00:17:16.070 --> 00:17:18.050
  • WE BELIEVE ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:17:18.050 --> 00:17:20.100
  • THIS BOOK HITS THE STORES IN A
  • 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:23.120
  • BIG WAY NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY.
  • 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:26.020
  • AND SO, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A
  • 00:17:26.020 --> 00:17:29.020
  • HEAD START.
  • 00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:29.220
  • WE HAVE YOU AND WE HAVE YOUR
  • 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:34.080
  • BOOK.
  • 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:35.040
  • WHAT-- WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:17:35.040 --> 00:17:37.210
  • THIS AMIDST THE CELEBRATION OF
  • 00:17:37.210 --> 00:17:39.210
  • "THE SHACK"?
  • 00:17:39.210 --> 00:17:41.130
  • - "THE SHACK," BY THE NATURE OF
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:43.000
  • WHAT IT IS, A STORY, A PARABLE,
  • 00:17:44.070 --> 00:17:47.070
  • AND THAT MEANS IT IS TRUE IT IS
  • 00:17:48.020 --> 00:17:51.020
  • JUST NOT REAL.
  • 00:17:51.020 --> 00:17:51.280
  • THAT IS WHY JESUS LOVED PARABLES
  • 00:17:51.280 --> 00:17:54.190
  • BECAUSE THEY WERE TRUE EVERYONE
  • 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:56.210
  • COULD IDENTIFY WITH THEM.
  • 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:58.180
  • THE BEAUTY OF THE CONVERSATION
  • 00:17:58.180 --> 00:18:00.230
  • THAT ARISES OUT OF SOMETHING
  • 00:18:00.230 --> 00:18:03.100
  • LIKE "THE SHACK" ARE THE
  • 00:18:03.100 --> 00:18:05.040
  • QUESTIONS, I GREW UP A
  • 00:18:05.100 --> 00:18:08.100
  • MISSIONARY'S KID.
  • 00:18:08.100 --> 00:18:09.220
  • QUESTIONS WERE NOT SOMETHING
  • 00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:10.240
  • THAT WERE EMBRACED WELL OR
  • 00:18:11.070 --> 00:18:14.070
  • INVITED.
  • 00:18:14.070 --> 00:18:16.020
  • BUT THEY BECAME MY BEST
  • 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.160
  • COMPANIONS.
  • 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:20.000
  • A GOOD QUESTION A LINE FROM EVE
  • 00:18:20.110 --> 00:18:23.110
  • A GOOD QUESTION IS WORTH A
  • 00:18:23.110 --> 00:18:25.210
  • THOUSAND ANSWERS.
  • 00:18:25.210 --> 00:18:26.200
  • THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP YOU
  • 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:28.120
  • WILL HEAR SOME OF THEM.
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.200
  • I GET CALLED DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.190
  • MY MOM, WHEN SHE TRIED TO READ
  • 00:18:34.190 --> 00:18:37.160
  • "THE SHACK" CALLED ME A HERETIC.
  • 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:39.270
  • BUT SHE IS PASSED THAT NOW.
  • 00:18:39.270 --> 00:18:41.280
  • THAT IS A MARVELOUS STORY.
  • 00:18:42.120 --> 00:18:45.120
  • - THAT IS BAD.
  • 00:18:45.120 --> 00:18:46.190
  • - SHE CALLED MY SISTER INTO IT.
  • 00:18:46.190 --> 00:18:49.030
  • NOT ME INTO IT.
  • 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.160
  • IT IS WHEN PAPA CAME THROUGH THE
  • 00:18:55.250 --> 00:18:58.250
  • DOOR.
  • 00:18:58.250 --> 00:18:59.040
  • THAT IS ONE OF THE LIES THAT GOD
  • 00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:01.100
  • IS MORE HE THAN SHE.
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.220
  • OR GOD IS IN CONTROL, THINGS WE
  • 00:19:02.220 --> 00:19:05.120
  • JUST MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THAT
  • 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:07.100
  • AFFECT THE WAY WE LOOK AT GOD.
  • 00:19:08.150 --> 00:19:11.150
  • I GET CALLED A UNIVERSIST.
  • 00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:17.190
  • THE WHOLE WORLD WAS CREATED IN
  • 00:19:17.190 --> 00:19:20.010
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:19:20.010 --> 00:19:20.140
  • I BELIEVE WE WERE ALL INCLUDED
  • 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:23.220
  • WHEN TO QUOTE SCRIPTURE, WHEN
  • 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:25.260
  • CHRIST DIED WE ALL DIED.
  • 00:19:25.260 --> 00:19:27.260
  • AND WHEN I ROSE WE ALL ROSE.
  • 00:19:30.150 --> 00:19:33.150
  • NOTHING THAT CAME INTO BEING
  • 00:19:33.150 --> 00:19:35.160
  • BECAME INTO BEING-- THAT I'M
  • 00:19:39.040 --> 00:19:42.040
  • UNIVERSAL-- WE GET TO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:19:42.040 --> 00:19:43.110
  • A BOOK LIKE THIS.
  • 00:19:43.110 --> 00:19:44.240
  • I DON'T THINK ALL ROADS LEAD TO
  • 00:19:45.150 --> 00:19:48.150
  • GOD.
  • 00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:49.100
  • I BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CREATOR,
  • 00:19:49.100 --> 00:19:52.070
  • EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO HIM
  • 00:19:52.070 --> 00:19:53.290
  • BEING THE CREATOR THERE IS
  • 00:19:54.090 --> 00:19:57.090
  • NOTHING IN THE COSMOS THAT DOES
  • 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:59.270
  • NOT HAVE TO DO WITH JESUS.
  • 00:19:59.270 --> 00:20:01.160
  • - I AM THE TRUTH THE WAY AND
  • 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:04.060
  • THE LIFE.
  • 00:20:04.060 --> 00:20:05.030
  • NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT
  • 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.200
  • ME.
  • 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.120
  • - THE ONLY REASON THERE IS
  • 00:20:10.120 --> 00:20:11.280
  • CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE VERSE, WE
  • 00:20:11.280 --> 00:20:14.050
  • HAVE TOO LOW CHRISTOLOGY.
  • 00:20:14.050 --> 00:20:17.010
  • HE IS A RESPONSE TO ADAM, WE
  • 00:20:17.010 --> 00:20:19.130
  • THINK, RATHER THAN THE CREATOR
  • 00:20:19.130 --> 00:20:21.020
  • WHO IS THE FATHER, SON AND
  • 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:23.030
  • ANOINTED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:20:23.030 --> 00:20:24.240
  • EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE HAS A
  • 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:26.190
  • CONNECTION TO JESUS.
  • 00:20:27.190 --> 00:20:30.190
  • - WELL, LIES WE BELIEVE ABOUT
  • 00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:34.080
  • GOD AUTHOR PAUL YOUNG IS HERE.
  • 00:20:39.050 --> 00:20:42.050
  • - WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY, HE DID
  • 00:20:42.050 --> 00:20:44.120
  • NOT ADDRESS THIS.
  • 00:20:44.120 --> 00:20:45.200
  • DO I BELIEVE IN A DOCTRINE THAT
  • 00:20:46.100 --> 00:20:49.100
  • SAYS EVERYONE WILL BE RECONCILED
  • 00:20:49.100 --> 00:20:51.280
  • FACE-TO-FACE WITH GOD?
  • 00:20:51.280 --> 00:20:53.060
  • WE WANT TO BE A FACE-TO-FACE
  • 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.200
  • ACCUSATION, I DON'T, I HAVE NOT
  • 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.290
  • STEPPED ACROSS THE LINE TO PUT
  • 00:20:58.290 --> 00:21:00.050
  • MY FAITH IN A DOCTRINE.
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:02.030
  • I PUT MY FAITH IN JESUS.
  • 00:21:02.030 --> 00:21:04.270
  • I'M HOPEFUL THAT PRIOR TO
  • 00:21:04.270 --> 00:21:07.140
  • CREATION THE FATHER, SON AND
  • 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:09.250
  • HOLY SPIRIT DETERMINE HOW TO,
  • 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:12.120
  • WITHOUT REVILING OR COERCING ONE
  • 00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:15.150
  • HUMAN WILL TO WIN EVERYONE BACK
  • 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.240
  • FACE-TO-FACE.
  • 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:22.070
  • SCRIPTURE HOLDS THIS INTENTION
  • 00:21:22.070 --> 00:21:23.260
  • WITH THE HIGH VIEW OF HUMANITY
  • 00:21:23.260 --> 00:21:26.040
  • WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF THE LIES I
  • 00:21:26.040 --> 00:21:28.080
  • HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN A BOOK LIKE
  • 00:21:28.080 --> 00:21:30.190
  • THIS.
  • 00:21:30.190 --> 00:21:30.280
  • WE HAVE A LOW VIEW OF HUMANITY.
  • 00:21:30.280 --> 00:21:33.210
  • I DON'T THINK GOD DOES AT ALL.
  • 00:21:33.210 --> 00:21:35.180
  • GOD HAS HUGE RESPECT.
  • 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:37.070
  • THE TENSION IS THERE THAT YOU
  • 00:21:37.070 --> 00:21:39.080
  • HAVE BECAUSE OF THIS INCREDIBLE
  • 00:21:39.080 --> 00:21:41.090
  • CREATION THAT YOU ARE, THE
  • 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:43.040
  • ABILITY AND POWER TO SAY NO
  • 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:45.280
  • POTENTIALLY FOREVER AND EVER.
  • 00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:48.060
  • BUT, IT WILL NEVER STOP THE
  • 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:50.210
  • PURSUIT OF LOVE.
  • 00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:51.180
  • AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE EVERY
  • 00:21:52.060 --> 00:21:55.060
  • PARENT WHO HAS ANY HEALTH AT ALL
  • 00:21:55.090 --> 00:21:58.090
  • AND GRANDPARENT, EVEN MORE SO,
  • 00:21:58.090 --> 00:22:00.180
  • WOULD NEVER STOP A PURSUIT OF
  • 00:22:02.010 --> 00:22:05.010
  • LOVE.
  • 00:22:05.010 --> 00:22:05.100
  • - GOD DESCRIBES HIMSELF, GOD IS
  • 00:22:05.100 --> 00:22:08.000
  • LOVE.
  • 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:08.090
  • HOW CAN HE NOT BE THAT?
  • 00:22:08.090 --> 00:22:10.030
  • AT SOME POINT, THIS IS FAIRLY
  • 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:13.200
  • CONTROVERSIAL.
  • 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:14.040
  • I BELIEVE EVERYONE IS GOING TO
  • 00:22:14.040 --> 00:22:16.200
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:17.030
  • JUST THAT SOME WILL HAVE TO
  • 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:21.140
  • LEAVE.
  • 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:21.230
  • THE IDEA, THAT WAS GOOD TIMING
  • 00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:23.200
  • ON THE JOKE.
  • 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:24.160
  • I WAS GOING TO HOLD IT A LITTLE
  • 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.270
  • LONGER.
  • 00:22:26.270 --> 00:22:27.070
  • BUT I THOUGHT, I DIDN'T WANT TO
  • 00:22:27.070 --> 00:22:30.030
  • RUIN THE--
  • 00:22:30.030 --> 00:22:32.090
  • - ONE CHAPTER IN THERE, IS THAT
  • 00:22:32.090 --> 00:22:34.280
  • THE LIE I DEAL WITH IN ONE OF
  • 00:22:34.280 --> 00:22:36.230
  • THE CHAPTERS IS HELL IS
  • 00:22:37.080 --> 00:22:40.080
  • SEPARATION WHICH I THINK IS A
  • 00:22:40.080 --> 00:22:41.290
  • LIE.
  • 00:22:41.290 --> 00:22:42.150
  • BASICALLY, WHAT I TALK ABOUT IN
  • 00:22:42.150 --> 00:22:44.040
  • THERE, I SAY LOOK, EITHER HELL
  • 00:22:44.040 --> 00:22:46.170
  • IS CREATED THING OR UNCREATED
  • 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:49.250
  • THING, IF IT IS UNCREATED, IT IS
  • 00:22:49.250 --> 00:22:52.100
  • GOD.
  • 00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:52.260
  • GOD IS A FURY OF FLAME AND FIRE.
  • 00:22:53.030 --> 00:22:56.030
  • IF YOU TRUST THE GOODNESS OF GOD
  • 00:22:56.030 --> 00:22:58.070
  • YOU WILL RUN TO THIS GOD WITH
  • 00:22:58.070 --> 00:23:00.210
  • YOUR ARMS WIDE OPEN AND SAY
  • 00:23:00.210 --> 00:23:02.190
  • JUDGE ME TO THE CORE BURNOUT OF
  • 00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:05.050
  • ME EVERYTHING THAT KEEPS ME FROM
  • 00:23:05.050 --> 00:23:07.100
  • BEING FULLY HUMAN I AND FULLY
  • 00:23:08.130 --> 00:23:11.130
  • ALIVE.
  • 00:23:11.130 --> 00:23:11.220
  • I HAVE ROMANS 8.
  • 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:14.160
  • THE THINGS THAT WILL NOT
  • 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:15.260
  • SEPARATE THE LOVE OF GOD.
  • 00:23:15.260 --> 00:23:17.270
  • - THAT IS DEEP FOR ME.
  • 00:23:17.270 --> 00:23:19.100
  • - THE LAST TWO VERSES.
  • 00:23:19.100 --> 00:23:21.000
  • ALL I DO IS RUN A TV NETWORK
  • 00:23:22.170 --> 00:23:25.170
  • THAT IS LIKE GIVING ME A
  • 00:23:25.210 --> 00:23:28.210
  • HEADACHE.
  • 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:29.020
  • I KNOW WE ALL LOVE JESUS AND WE
  • 00:23:29.020 --> 00:23:31.080
  • ARE ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE HELPED
  • 00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:32.290
  • AND HEALED.
  • 00:23:32.290 --> 00:23:34.060
  • YOUR MOVIE IS TEARING IT UP.
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:36.280
  • GO TO INSTAGRAM, THE POST THAT
  • 00:23:40.220 --> 00:23:43.220
  • BOBBIE HOUSTON DID,
  • 00:23:43.220 --> 00:23:45.110
  • UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:23:45.110 --> 00:23:45.240
  • SHE JUST-- AND WE ARE HEARING
  • 00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:49.080
  • EVERYWHERE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:50.240
  • CAN CONTACT US ARE SAYING, SAW
  • 00:23:51.100 --> 00:23:54.100
  • IT, WEPT THROUGH IT, FANTASTIC
  • 00:23:55.210 --> 00:23:58.210
  • FILM, LAURIE AND THE BOYS AND I
  • 00:23:58.210 --> 00:24:00.180
  • GOT TO SEE IT 6 OR 8 WEEKS AGO
  • 00:24:07.060 --> 00:24:10.060
  • THE PRODUCTION TEAM DID THE
  • 00:24:10.060 --> 00:24:12.180
  • IMPOSSIBLE.
  • 00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:13.000
  • PAUL WROTE A BOOK THAT WAS
  • 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.290
  • ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO ADAPT INTO
  • 00:24:14.290 --> 00:24:16.240
  • A FILM AND THE TEAM DID IT.
  • 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.220
  • I'M SO PROUD OF EVERYONE THAT
  • 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:21.030
  • WAS INVOLVED IN IT.
  • 00:24:21.030 --> 00:24:22.210
  • GIL, GREAT JOB.
  • 00:24:22.210 --> 00:24:23.230
  • BY THE WAY, THE PRODUCER OF THIS
  • 00:24:23.230 --> 00:24:26.180
  • MOVIE BEINGS "THE SHACK," DID
  • 00:24:27.110 --> 00:24:30.110
  • BLIND SIDE.
  • 00:24:30.110 --> 00:24:31.230
  • AND MARLEY AND ME.
  • 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:33.270
  • THE LIFE OF PI AND MANY OTHERS,
  • 00:24:37.210 --> 00:24:40.210
  • MANY MOVIES, YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:24:40.210 --> 00:24:42.250
  • MARLEY AND ME, I ALMOST HAD TO
  • 00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:44.270
  • DRAG MY WHOM OUT OF MOM OUT OFR
  • 00:24:47.110 --> 00:24:50.110
  • SHE WAS ALMOST DEAD.
  • 00:24:50.110 --> 00:24:52.090
  • WHEN YOU PULL ON MY MOM, PARTS
  • 00:24:52.090 --> 00:24:54.200
  • CAME OFF, WIGS AND EYELASHES.
  • 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:59.040
  • SHE WAS ALMOST STRIPPED DOWN BY
  • 00:24:59.040 --> 00:25:02.020
  • THE TIME WE GOT HER TO THE CAR.
  • 00:25:02.020 --> 00:25:04.160
  • GIL KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A MOVIE.
  • 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.090
  • "THE SHACK" IS AMAZING.
  • 00:25:07.090 --> 00:25:09.040
  • PAUL, SO PROUD OF YOU.
  • 00:25:09.040 --> 00:25:12.020
  • WE GOT TOGETHER ABOUT A YEAR
  • 00:25:12.020 --> 00:25:14.010
  • AGO.
  • 00:25:14.010 --> 00:25:14.100
  • WE WENT UP TO MONTANA.
  • 00:25:14.140 --> 00:25:17.140
  • STARTED CHOPPING DOWN TREES,
  • 00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:20.060
  • JUST KIDDING WE DID NOT CHOP
  • 00:25:20.060 --> 00:25:21.280
  • DOWN A SINGLE TREE.
  • 00:25:21.280 --> 00:25:23.160
  • WE DID SOMETHING TOGETHER I'M SO
  • 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.080
  • PROUD OF, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU.
  • 00:25:25.080 --> 00:25:28.010
  • WHEN PEOPLE WATCH WEEK AFTER
  • 00:25:28.010 --> 00:25:29.220
  • WEEK AFTER WEEK, WE HAVE 20 OR
  • 00:25:30.170 --> 00:25:33.170
  • 25 EPISODES, WE ARE EDITING THEM
  • 00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:38.190
  • NOW.
  • 00:25:38.190 --> 00:25:39.000
  • THE FIRST FOUR ARE AIRING TODAY
  • 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.050
  • ON TBN.
  • 00:25:41.050 --> 00:25:42.020
  • THEY JUST AIRED THEY WILL AIR
  • 00:25:42.020 --> 00:25:44.000
  • AGAIN AFTER WE CONCLUDE HERE.
  • 00:25:44.010 --> 00:25:47.010
  • BUT, WHAT IS THE PATHWAY?
  • 00:25:47.010 --> 00:25:49.180
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO
  • 00:25:49.180 --> 00:25:51.190
  • EXPERIENCE WATCHING THE EPISODES
  • 00:25:51.190 --> 00:25:54.080
  • OF RESTORING "THE SHACK" WITH
  • 00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:56.180
  • WILLIAM PAUL YOUNG RIGHT HERE ON
  • 00:25:56.180 --> 00:25:58.100
  • TBN?
  • 00:25:58.100 --> 00:25:58.230
  • - THE BOOK HAS HAD A MASSIVE
  • 00:25:58.230 --> 00:26:01.060
  • IMPACT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.
  • 00:26:01.060 --> 00:26:03.260
  • PARTLY, NOT INTENDED BY ME,
  • 00:26:03.260 --> 00:26:06.010
  • BECAUSE I MADE 15 COPIES AT
  • 00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:08.160
  • OFFICE DE B DEPOT THAT DID EVERG
  • 00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:11.290
  • I WANTED THAT BOOK TO DO IT GAVE
  • 00:26:12.080 --> 00:26:15.080
  • PEOPLE A LANGUAGE TO HAVE A
  • 00:26:15.080 --> 00:26:17.020
  • CONVERSATION ABOUT GOD THAT WAS
  • 00:26:17.030 --> 00:26:20.030
  • NOT RELIGIOUS IT BROKE DOWN
  • 00:26:20.030 --> 00:26:22.210
  • BOUNDARIES, IT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO
  • 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:25.020
  • EXPLORE NOT A DEFINITION OF GOD
  • 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:26.230
  • BUT A WAY OF SEEING GOD THAT WAS
  • 00:26:26.230 --> 00:26:29.120
  • BIGGER THAN THEIR EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:26:29.260 --> 00:26:32.260
  • THERE IS NOTHING UNSCRIPTURAL
  • 00:26:32.260 --> 00:26:35.000
  • ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:35.290
  • YOU HAVE GOD WHO IS A BURNING
  • 00:26:35.290 --> 00:26:38.130
  • BUSH OR A SHEPHERD OR A NURSING
  • 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:41.000
  • MOTHER IN EYE ISAIAH OR LOSING A
  • 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:48.250
  • COIN OR A ROCK.
  • 00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:50.160
  • ALL THIS IMAGERY THAT HELPS US
  • 00:26:50.280 --> 00:26:53.280
  • UNDERSTAND THE FACETS AND
  • 00:26:53.280 --> 00:26:55.260
  • CHARACTER AND NATURE OF GOD.
  • 00:26:55.260 --> 00:26:57.170
  • THE BOOK ALSO BECAME AFFIRMATION
  • 00:26:57.170 --> 00:26:59.110
  • TO PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR
  • 00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:02.200
  • GREAT SADNESS AND PUT AN ARM
  • 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.070
  • AROUND THEM AND SAID YOUR TEARS
  • 00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:07.280
  • ACTUALLY MATTER.
  • 00:27:07.280 --> 00:27:09.140
  • YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
  • 00:27:09.140 --> 00:27:11.100
  • IN THIS SERIES WE EXPLORE ALL
  • 00:27:11.100 --> 00:27:13.210
  • THAT.
  • 00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:14.000
  • WE BASICALLY WORK OUR WAY THE
  • 00:27:15.110 --> 00:27:18.110
  • MAJOR THEMES OF THE BOOK.
  • 00:27:18.110 --> 00:27:21.070
  • ESPECIALLY THOSE WRAPPED IN MY
  • 00:27:21.070 --> 00:27:23.030
  • HISTORY WHERE THAT BOOK CAME
  • 00:27:23.030 --> 00:27:24.210
  • FROM AND WHY IT EMERGED THE WAY
  • 00:27:24.210 --> 00:27:27.050
  • IT DID IT EXPLORES MY SADNESSES
  • 00:27:27.070 --> 00:27:30.070
  • AND EXPLORES HOW DID THAT WORK
  • 00:27:30.070 --> 00:27:32.050
  • OUT?
  • 00:27:32.050 --> 00:27:32.130
  • AND IN REAL LIFE HERE.
  • 00:27:32.210 --> 00:27:35.210
  • I DON'T HIDE ANYTHING IN THIS
  • 00:27:35.210 --> 00:27:38.200
  • SERIES.
  • 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:39.000
  • I'M NOT TRYING TO HOOK PEOPLE OR
  • 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.160
  • CREATE AN AGENDA.
  • 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.160
  • THIS IS ONE HUMAN BEING TALKING
  • 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.040
  • TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHAT IT
  • 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:46.160
  • MEANS TO BE HUMAN IN A WORLD OF
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.010
  • GREAT BROKENNESS.
  • 00:27:49.010 --> 00:27:50.120
  • WHERE IS GOD IN THE MIDDLE OF
  • 00:27:50.120 --> 00:27:52.240
  • THIS CONVERSATION?
  • 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:53.170
  • A GOD WHO IS ALL GOOD AND ALL
  • 00:27:53.170 --> 00:27:56.140
  • POWERFUL AND YET CHOOSES TO
  • 00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:58.250
  • ALLOW THE KINDS OF DEVASTATION
  • 00:27:58.250 --> 00:28:00.220
  • WE BRING TO THE TABLE.
  • 00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:02.100
  • AND ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:28:02.100 --> 00:28:04.110
  • BECOME IMPORTANT.
  • 00:28:04.110 --> 00:28:05.010
  • SOME OF THE EPISODES WILL BE AN
  • 00:28:05.010 --> 00:28:07.280
  • INVITATION TO LAMENT, TO
  • 00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:10.180
  • ACTUALLY GRIEVE, WHAT THE
  • 00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:12.280
  • WESTERN MIND DOES NOT DO VERY
  • 00:28:12.280 --> 00:28:15.020
  • WELL.
  • 00:28:15.020 --> 00:28:15.150
  • AS A RESULT WE ARE SICK WITH ALL
  • 00:28:15.150 --> 00:28:17.200
  • KINDS OF THINGS BECAUSE WE
  • 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.140
  • BURIED OUR HUMANITY IN OUR HEAD.
  • 00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:22.250
  • THIS IS AN INVITATION TO BECOME
  • 00:28:22.250 --> 00:28:24.220
  • MORE HUMAN.
  • 00:28:24.220 --> 00:28:26.110
  • AN INVITATION THAT JESUS MODELED
  • 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:29.250
  • BEAUTIFULLY AND SAID, YOU KNOW
  • 00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:32.030
  • WHAT?
  • 00:28:32.030 --> 00:28:32.120
  • LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE FATHER
  • 00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:34.080
  • WHILE WE BRING ALL OUR LIES TO
  • 00:28:34.080 --> 00:28:36.080
  • THE TABLE ABOUT WHO WE THINK GOD
  • 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.080
  • IS, JESUS IS CONSTANTLY SAYING
  • 00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:40.120
  • GOD IS NOT WHO YOU THINK.
  • 00:28:40.120 --> 00:28:42.010
  • THIS IS ABOUT THE WHOLE PERSON.
  • 00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:44.230
  • THE BEAUTY OF THIS SERIES, THE
  • 00:28:45.080 --> 00:28:48.080
  • SPECTACULAR WAY IT WAS SHOT AND
  • 00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:49.260
  • THE SCENTHE SCENERY AND EVERYTHU
  • 00:28:55.170 --> 00:28:58.170
  • DID.
  • 00:28:58.170 --> 00:28:58.250
  • I THINK IT WILL RIPPLE THROUGH
  • 00:28:58.250 --> 00:29:01.060
  • THE YEARS AND BECOME AN
  • 00:29:01.060 --> 00:29:02.270
  • IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.
  • 00:29:02.270 --> 00:29:03.180
  • - YOU ARE A DEEP THINKER.
  • 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:05.170
  • I'M NEVER PLAYING CHESS WITH
  • 00:29:05.170 --> 00:29:07.070
  • YOU, EVER.
  • 00:29:07.070 --> 00:29:08.070
  • WE WANT YOU TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
  • 00:29:08.070 --> 00:29:10.180
  • RESTORING "THE SHACK" THE TV
  • 00:29:10.180 --> 00:29:12.230
  • SERIES, WATCH THIS.
  • 00:29:12.230 --> 00:29:13.290
  • - HI, MY NAME IS PAUL YOUNG
  • 00:29:13.290 --> 00:29:15.200
  • AUTHOR OF "THE SHACK."
  • 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.110
  • MAYBE YOU READ THIS BOOK AND YOU
  • 00:29:17.110 --> 00:29:19.070
  • HAVE QUESTIONS AND WOULD LIKE TO
  • 00:29:19.070 --> 00:29:21.170
  • KNOW THE BACKGROUND, MAYBE YOU
  • 00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:23.190
  • HEARD ABOUT IT AND YOU HAVE SOME
  • 00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:26.070
  • QUESTIONS.
  • 00:29:26.070 --> 00:29:26.180
  • EITHER WAY, I WOULD LOVE TO
  • 00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:28.050
  • INVITE YOU TO COME ON THE
  • 00:29:28.050 --> 00:29:30.000
  • ADVENTURE OF "THE SHACK."
  • 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.010
  • THIS IS A BOOK THAT ALLOWS US TO
  • 00:29:32.060 --> 00:29:35.060
  • EXPLORE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
  • 00:29:35.060 --> 00:29:36.050
  • FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:29:36.050 --> 00:29:37.270
  • IT ALLOWS US TO EXPLORE WHAT IT
  • 00:29:37.270 --> 00:29:40.020
  • MEANS TO BE HUMAN.
  • 00:29:40.020 --> 00:29:41.200
  • THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE ABOUT HURT
  • 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.190
  • AND LOSS AND GRIEF.
  • 00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:47.210
  • QUESTIONS ABOUT WONDER, BEAUTY,
  • 00:29:49.210 --> 00:29:52.210
  • JOY.
  • 00:29:52.210 --> 00:29:52.290
  • WHO AM I IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS
  • 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:55.060
  • GOD?
  • 00:29:55.060 --> 00:29:55.190
  • IS THIS GOD A RELATIONAL BEING?
  • 00:29:55.190 --> 00:29:57.200
  • OR JUST AN IDEA?
  • 00:29:58.110 --> 00:30:01.110
  • THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE WANT
  • 00:30:01.110 --> 00:30:03.120
  • TO EXPLORE.
  • 00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:04.150
  • I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME WITH
  • 00:30:04.180 --> 00:30:07.180
  • ME.
  • 00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:07.260
  • THIS IS AN INVITATION RIGHT HERE
  • 00:30:07.260 --> 00:30:09.270
  • ON TBN.
  • 00:30:09.270 --> 00:30:12.200
  • - LOVE IT.
  • 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:13.050
  • WE ARE CELEBRATING TODAY THE 5
  • 00:30:13.110 --> 00:30:16.110
  • OF MARCH.
  • 00:30:16.110 --> 00:30:17.000
  • BY THE WAY, HOW LONG AGO?
  • 00:30:18.020 --> 00:30:21.020
  • THIRTY-TWO YEARS AGO?
  • 00:30:21.090 --> 00:30:24.090
  • THIRTY-TWO YEARS AGO TODAY IN
  • 00:30:24.090 --> 00:30:26.150
  • THIS ROOM I ASKED HER TO MARRY
  • 00:30:29.110 --> 00:30:32.110
  • ME.
  • 00:30:32.110 --> 00:30:32.190
  • WELCOME TO OUR ANNIVERSARY
  • 00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:35.010
  • PARTY.
  • 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:41.220
  • (LAUGHTER).
  • 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:42.040
  • WE HAD A PICTURE OF IT.
  • 00:30:42.040 --> 00:30:44.250
  • - THEY WERE ALL LAUGHING.
  • 00:30:44.250 --> 00:30:47.080
  • - LIES WE BELIEVE ABOUT GOD
  • 00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:49.000
  • WILLIAM PAUL'S YOUNG BOOK.
  • 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.060
  • IT IS IN BOOKSTORES IN A FEW
  • 00:30:51.060 --> 00:30:54.000
  • DAYS BUT AVAILABLE RIGHT HERE
  • 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.050
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:30:55.050 --> 00:30:56.000
  • WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.060
  • WE WILL KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.
  • 00:30:57.060 --> 00:30:59.110
  • PAUL, WE ARE THRILLED YOU ARE
  • 00:30:59.110 --> 00:31:00.280
  • HERE.
  • 00:31:00.280 --> 00:31:01.170
  • THE MOVIE "THE SHACK" IS IN
  • 00:31:01.210 --> 00:31:04.210
  • THEATERS.
  • 00:31:04.210 --> 00:31:05.130
  • I'M PARAPHRASING SOME.
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:06.280
  • IT IS IN THEATERS.
  • 00:31:06.280 --> 00:31:09.100
  • IT IS OUT PERFORMING ALL
  • 00:31:09.100 --> 00:31:12.060
  • ESTIMATES.
  • 00:31:12.060 --> 00:31:12.290
  • IT IS A HIT MOVIE.
  • 00:31:12.290 --> 00:31:15.100
  • IT IS DOING SUPER WELL.
  • 00:31:15.100 --> 00:31:17.220
  • THIS IS THE THEATRICAL TRAILER.
  • 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.240
  • IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SEEING IT
  • 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.070
  • ALL OVER THE PLACE WE WILL SHOW
  • 00:31:23.070 --> 00:31:24.260
  • IT TO YOU NOW.
  • 00:31:24.260 --> 00:31:26.210
  • THE TRAILER FOR THE MOVIE "THE
  • 00:31:28.050 --> 00:31:31.050
  • SHACK."
  • 00:31:33.110 --> 00:31:36.110
  • - MOM: CAR LEAVES IN 20
  • 00:31:36.110 --> 00:31:37.020
  • SECONDS.
  • 00:31:37.020 --> 00:31:37.130
  • - DAD: GOTTA GO, YOU LITTLE
  • 00:31:37.130 --> 00:31:38.030
  • RASCAL.
  • 00:31:38.030 --> 00:31:38.210
  • - MISSY: DO YOU THINK THE
  • 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:39.150
  • PRINCESS SHOULD HAVE A RED DRESS
  • 00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:40.070
  • LIKE MINE?
  • 00:31:40.070 --> 00:31:41.030
  • - DAD: RED IT IS.
  • 00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:43.140
  • WHERE'S MISSY?
  • 00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:44.070
  • (SHOUTING) MISSY!
  • 00:31:44.070 --> 00:31:45.200
  • WHERE'S MISSY?
  • 00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:52.150
  • - SORRY, MACK, THEY HAVEN'T
  • 00:31:52.150 --> 00:31:53.080
  • SEEN HER.
  • 00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:53.240
  • - (SHOUTING) MISSY!
  • 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:54.170
  • (SHOUTING) MISSY!
  • 00:31:54.170 --> 00:31:55.080
  • (SIRENS).
  • 00:31:55.080 --> 00:31:56.050
  • - MACK: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO
  • 00:31:56.050 --> 00:31:57.020
  • DO.
  • 00:31:57.020 --> 00:31:57.190
  • - (COMMUNICATION RESPONDER).
  • 00:31:57.190 --> 00:31:58.120
  • GROUND TEAM'S SPOTTED A TRUCK IN
  • 00:31:58.120 --> 00:31:59.040
  • THE MOUNTAINS.
  • 00:31:59.040 --> 00:32:00.020
  • - I'M REALLY SORRY,
  • 00:32:00.020 --> 00:32:01.130
  • MR. PHILLIPS.
  • 00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:02.060
  • (GUTTURAL SCREAM)
  • 00:32:02.090 --> 00:32:05.090
  • MUSIC
  • 00:32:05.090 --> 00:32:06.120
  • - WANT SOME HELP OVER THERE?
  • 00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:07.100
  • - I'M OKAY.
  • 00:32:07.100 --> 00:32:08.180
  • - HOW ABOUT SOME DINNER
  • 00:32:08.180 --> 00:32:09.080
  • TONIGHT?
  • 00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:09.250
  • - MAYBE NEXT TIME.
  • 00:32:09.250 --> 00:32:11.280
  • (GUTTURAL SCREAM).
  • 00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:16.180
  • - I'M SORRY, SO SORRY.
  • 00:32:16.180 --> 00:32:18.190
  • - WE'VE LOST SO MUCH ALREADY.
  • 00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:19.230
  • I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU TOO.
  • 00:32:20.110 --> 00:32:23.110
  • - THE LETTER SHOWED UP IN MY
  • 00:32:23.110 --> 00:32:24.040
  • MAILBOX.
  • 00:32:24.040 --> 00:32:25.230
  • THERE WERE NO TRACKS IN THE
  • 00:32:25.230 --> 00:32:26.130
  • SHOW.
  • 00:32:26.130 --> 00:32:27.260
  • - YOU ARE NOT THINKING OF GOING
  • 00:32:27.260 --> 00:32:29.080
  • BACK THERE, ARE YOU?
  • 00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:29.270
  • - I'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.
  • 00:32:29.270 --> 00:32:31.030
  • - YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A GOOD
  • 00:32:31.030 --> 00:32:31.270
  • IDEA.
  • 00:32:31.270 --> 00:32:32.270
  • IT'S CRAZY.
  • 00:32:32.270 --> 00:32:34.180
  • - BUT THIS IS ALL I'VE GOT.
  • 00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:37.150
  • - I GOT A FIRE GOING INSIDE IF
  • 00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:38.090
  • YOU WANT TO WARM UP.
  • 00:32:43.050 --> 00:32:46.050
  • - MCKENZIE ALLEN PHILLIPS, I'VE
  • 00:32:46.050 --> 00:32:47.250
  • BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
  • 00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:48.290
  • - DO I KNOW YOU?
  • 00:32:48.290 --> 00:32:49.160
  • - NOT VERY WELL.
  • 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.240
  • BUT WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
  • 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.130
  • - THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:32:53.130 --> 00:32:55.150
  • - HE IS STILL HAVING A HARD
  • 00:32:55.150 --> 00:32:56.100
  • TIME BELIEVING THIS IS REAL.
  • 00:32:56.100 --> 00:32:58.000
  • - WHY DID YOU BRING ME HERE?
  • 00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.030
  • - THERE IS NO EASY ANSWER THAT
  • 00:32:59.030 --> 00:33:00.080
  • WILL TAKE YOUR PAIN AWAY.
  • 00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:01.160
  • - WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED
  • 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:02.100
  • YOU?
  • 00:33:02.100 --> 00:33:03.220
  • - I NEVER LEFT YOU, I NEVER
  • 00:33:03.220 --> 00:33:05.110
  • LEFT ME.
  • 00:33:05.110 --> 00:33:07.040
  • - MUSIC
  • 00:33:07.040 --> 00:33:09.250
  • - YOU WANT ME TO FORGIVE YOU?
  • 00:33:09.250 --> 00:33:11.180
  • I WANT HIM TO HURT LIKE HE HURT
  • 00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:12.100
  • ME.
  • 00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:15.020
  • - YOU WANT THE PROMISE OF A
  • 00:33:15.020 --> 00:33:15.240
  • PAIN-FREE LIFE.
  • 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:16.210
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:33:16.210 --> 00:33:17.150
  • - THERE ISN'T ONE.
  • 00:33:17.150 --> 00:33:20.070
  • - YOU CAN DO THIS.
  • 00:33:20.070 --> 00:33:21.150
  • - I CAN'T.
  • 00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:22.250
  • - ON YOUR OWN YOU CAN'T.
  • 00:33:22.250 --> 00:33:24.170
  • - THIS IS YOUR FLYING LESSON.
  • 00:33:24.170 --> 00:33:26.060
  • - MUSIC
  • 00:33:26.060 --> 00:33:28.250
  • (KEEP YOUR EYES ON ME).
  • 00:33:36.040 --> 00:33:39.040
  • - I BELIEVE YOU...
  • 00:33:44.080 --> 00:33:47.080
  • MUSIC
  • 00:33:49.170 --> 00:33:52.170
  • - WOW! EVEN WATCHING THE
  • 00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:55.050
  • TRAILER, IT GRABS YOU.
  • 00:33:55.050 --> 00:33:57.040
  • IT STARTS CONJURING THE LONGER
  • 00:33:58.280 --> 00:34:02.000
  • EXPERIENCES YOU SEE IN THE FILM.
  • 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:03.210
  • IT IS IN THEATERS NOW.
  • 00:34:03.280 --> 00:34:06.280
  • PLEASE, GO SEE IT.
  • 00:34:06.280 --> 00:34:08.180
  • IT REALLY IS AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:34:08.180 --> 00:34:11.150
  • IN A MINUTE WE WILL RUN A CLIP,
  • 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:14.200
  • PAUL, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:34:14.200 --> 00:34:17.090
  • SIT WITH SAM WORTHINGTON, SAM
  • 00:34:17.190 --> 00:34:20.190
  • PLAYS MACK IN THIS MOVIE.
  • 00:34:20.190 --> 00:34:22.270
  • SO, HE WAS IN SOME OF THE
  • 00:34:23.140 --> 00:34:26.140
  • SMALLER MOVIES LIKE AVATAR,
  • 00:34:26.140 --> 00:34:29.070
  • HACKSAW RIDGE, LITTLE FILMS.
  • 00:34:29.070 --> 00:34:31.260
  • AND SO, SAM PORTRAYS THE
  • 00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:37.170
  • UNTHINKABLE, UNIMAGINABLE EVENT
  • 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.000
  • OF LOSING A CHILD.
  • 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.180
  • I HAVE ONE MOMENT WHEN OUR
  • 00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:45.270
  • YOUNGEST CODY WAS TWO OR 3 AND
  • 00:34:46.060 --> 00:34:49.060
  • WE LOST HIM FOUR MINUTES ONE
  • 00:34:49.060 --> 00:34:51.210
  • TIME.
  • 00:34:51.210 --> 00:34:52.010
  • THE PANIC OF THAT IS
  • 00:34:53.170 --> 00:34:56.170
  • UNIMAGINABLE.
  • 00:34:56.170 --> 00:34:57.030
  • WE FOUND HIM AGAIN, HE WAS NOT
  • 00:34:57.030 --> 00:34:59.120
  • UPSET.
  • 00:34:59.120 --> 00:35:00.020
  • HE WAS HIDING SOMEWHERE.
  • 00:35:00.020 --> 00:35:01.220
  • AND SO, WE WILL RUN TO SAM IN A
  • 00:35:05.060 --> 00:35:08.060
  • CLIP HERE.
  • 00:35:08.060 --> 00:35:09.090
  • EARLIER YOU MENTIONED HEALING
  • 00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:11.290
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:35:11.290 --> 00:35:12.090
  • AND HOW THIS WILL CHANGE THE
  • 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:17.020
  • WORLD.
  • 00:35:17.020 --> 00:35:17.110
  • - THIS ONE, YOU GET TO WATCH
  • 00:35:18.250 --> 00:35:21.250
  • MACKENZIE EMBODIED IN SAM, WORK
  • 00:35:22.020 --> 00:35:25.020
  • HIS WAY TOWARDS TRUST.
  • 00:35:25.020 --> 00:35:26.270
  • THERE ARE THINGS HE BRINGS THAT
  • 00:35:26.270 --> 00:35:28.220
  • HAVE TO BE DEL WITH THAT ARE
  • 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.000
  • CONFRONTATIONAL.
  • 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:32.150
  • ONE IS THE CAVE SCENE, MACKENZIE
  • 00:35:32.200 --> 00:35:35.200
  • HAS TO FACE THE WISDOM OF GOD.
  • 00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:37.230
  • SHE IS OUT OF PROVERBS THE WOMAN
  • 00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:40.000
  • WHO CRIES IN THE STREETS
  • 00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:43.070
  • PROVERBS 8 OR 9.
  • 00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:44.030
  • THAT IS WHERE I MODELED.
  • 00:35:44.030 --> 00:35:46.200
  • SO FESOPHIA IS THE GREEK WORD FR
  • 00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:51.240
  • WISDOM.
  • 00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:52.040
  • PAUL TALKS ABOUT THE BEAUTY OF
  • 00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:53.210
  • GOD'S WISDOM.
  • 00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:55.080
  • WHEN YOU ARE STUCK IN YOUR DARK
  • 00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:57.150
  • PLACE THE WISDOM OF GOD SHOWS UP
  • 00:35:57.150 --> 00:35:59.100
  • IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING YOU HAVE
  • 00:35:59.100 --> 00:36:01.150
  • EVER SEEN.
  • 00:36:01.150 --> 00:36:02.230
  • BUT, IT IS A CONFRONTATION
  • 00:36:02.230 --> 00:36:05.100
  • AGAINST YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.
  • 00:36:05.100 --> 00:36:08.040
  • I HAVE THIS CLOCK THAT SITS IN
  • 00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:10.170
  • MY OFFICE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
  • 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.160
  • MY DESK.
  • 00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:13.150
  • IT WAS SENT TO ME THIS
  • 00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:16.150
  • CHRISTMAS.
  • 00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:16.270
  • IT IS THE SHAPE OF A SHACK.
  • 00:36:16.270 --> 00:36:19.250
  • MADE FOR ME IN THE WOOD SHOP ON
  • 00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:24.090
  • DEATH ROW IN TENNESSEE.
  • 00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:26.210
  • AND A COUPLE MONTHS AGO I GOT TO
  • 00:36:26.210 --> 00:36:29.140
  • SPEND TWO-AND-A-HALF HOURS WITH
  • 00:36:29.140 --> 00:36:30.180
  • TWO OF THE DEATH ROW INMATES,
  • 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.280
  • TERRY AND RON.
  • 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:35.190
  • TERRY HAS BEEN THERE 33 YEARS
  • 00:36:35.190 --> 00:36:38.040
  • AND RON 30 YEARS.
  • 00:36:38.040 --> 00:36:39.210
  • THE REASON I GOT TO VISIT THEM
  • 00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:41.220
  • IS BECAUSE I GOT AN INVITATION
  • 00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:45.050
  • FROM A FRIEND, FROM A FRIEND OF
  • 00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:47.100
  • A FRIEND WHO VISITS TERRY.
  • 00:36:47.100 --> 00:36:50.030
  • THEY SAID IF THERE IS ANYWAY, IF
  • 00:36:51.170 --> 00:36:54.170
  • YOU HAPPENED TO BE GOING THROUGH
  • 00:36:54.270 --> 00:36:57.270
  • TENNESSEE, I'M SITTING THERE
  • 00:36:57.270 --> 00:36:59.240
  • WITH THESE TWO MEN.
  • 00:36:59.240 --> 00:37:01.080
  • IN THE COURSE OF THE
  • 00:37:01.080 --> 00:37:02.250
  • CONVERSATION BEGIN TO REALIZE
  • 00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:04.100
  • I'M WITH TWO OF THE FREEST HUMAN
  • 00:37:04.100 --> 00:37:06.220
  • BEINGS I HAVE BEEN AROUND.
  • 00:37:06.220 --> 00:37:08.260
  • WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HOW
  • 00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:10.180
  • EVERYONE OUT THERE CANNOT SEE
  • 00:37:10.180 --> 00:37:12.000
  • THEIR BARS.
  • 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.050
  • BUT THESE GUYS LOVE JESUS.
  • 00:37:13.050 --> 00:37:15.250
  • IT WAS "THE SHACK," THE MOFL NOL
  • 00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:22.110
  • THAT REVOLUTIONIZED TERRY'S LIFE
  • 00:37:22.110 --> 00:37:24.280
  • AND SPREAD THROUGH THE PLACE.
  • 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.200
  • HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED.
  • 00:37:26.200 --> 00:37:27.290
  • THE CAVE SCENE.
  • 00:37:27.290 --> 00:37:29.280
  • I HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE NOT
  • 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.290
  • OWNING WHAT I HAD DONE TO ONE OF
  • 00:37:32.020 --> 00:37:35.020
  • GOD'S PRECIOUS CHILDREN.
  • 00:37:35.020 --> 00:37:36.170
  • THEN I RUN INTO THE CAVE SCENE
  • 00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:40.120
  • CONFRONTED BY MY JUDG JUDGMENTA,
  • 00:37:41.140 --> 00:37:44.140
  • I'M ON DEATH ROW FOR THE MURDER
  • 00:37:44.140 --> 00:37:46.280
  • OF A BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING.
  • 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.070
  • I HAVE NOT DEALT WITH IT.
  • 00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.060
  • BECAUSE I WAS BETTER THAN THE
  • 00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:53.170
  • PEPEDOPHILES ON DEATH ROW BECAUE
  • 00:37:56.070 --> 00:37:59.070
  • OF MY JUDGMENT, IT GAVE ME AN
  • 00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:02.280
  • EXCUSE NOT TO DEAL WITH MY OWN
  • 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.270
  • STUFF.
  • 00:38:05.270 --> 00:38:06.070
  • WHEN I READ THAT CHAPTER, I WAS
  • 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.280
  • LITERALLY CRAWLING ON THE FLOOR
  • 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.230
  • OF MY CELL TRYING TO GET OUT OF
  • 00:38:12.230 --> 00:38:15.160
  • MY SKIN BECAUSE IT WAS A
  • 00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:17.220
  • CONFRONTATION.
  • 00:38:17.220 --> 00:38:18.060
  • GOD CHANGED MY LIFE BECAUSE OF
  • 00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:19.210
  • THAT SCENE.
  • 00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:21.180
  • HE THEN, HE IS TALKING TO ME
  • 00:38:21.180 --> 00:38:23.290
  • ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:38:23.290 --> 00:38:24.200
  • HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT
  • 00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:27.150
  • NOW ABOUT GOD AND PAPA AND WE
  • 00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:30.030
  • ARE TALKING HE WOULD START TO
  • 00:38:30.030 --> 00:38:31.190
  • CRY AND REACH OVER AND TOUCH MY
  • 00:38:31.190 --> 00:38:33.240
  • ARM AND GO LIKE, I CAN'T BELIEVE
  • 00:38:33.240 --> 00:38:35.220
  • YOU ARE HERE.
  • 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.000
  • ILI SAID I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M HE.
  • 00:38:39.140 --> 00:38:42.140
  • IT IS A TWO WAY STREET.
  • 00:38:42.140 --> 00:38:44.210
  • WE TALKED A LOT ON THE WAY OUT.
  • 00:38:44.210 --> 00:38:46.290
  • BY THE WAY, THE DAY BEFORE I
  • 00:38:46.290 --> 00:38:48.290
  • CAME INTO THE PRISON, HE HAD A
  • 00:38:49.240 --> 00:38:52.240
  • LAST HEARING.
  • 00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:53.160
  • HE IS WAITING TO FIND OUT HIS
  • 00:38:53.160 --> 00:38:56.040
  • DATE OF EXECUTION.
  • 00:38:56.040 --> 00:38:57.210
  • HE IS TO ME ONE OF THE FREEST
  • 00:38:57.210 --> 00:38:59.270
  • HUMAN BEINGS.
  • 00:38:59.270 --> 00:39:00.240
  • HE OWNS WHAT HE HAS DONE NO
  • 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:03.190
  • QUESTION ABOUT IT WITH NO
  • 00:39:04.010 --> 00:39:07.010
  • EXCUSE, HE OWNS IT.
  • 00:39:07.010 --> 00:39:08.160
  • HE ALSO OWNS THIS RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:10.070
  • HE HAS WITH THE FATHER, SON AND
  • 00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:13.170
  • HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:14.000
  • HE BUILT THIS LITTLE SHACK.
  • 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.220
  • AS A CLOCK.
  • 00:39:16.220 --> 00:39:17.270
  • AND SENT IT TO ME FOR CHRISTMAS.
  • 00:39:19.220 --> 00:39:22.220
  • AS WE ARE LEAVING THEY ARE
  • 00:39:22.220 --> 00:39:24.220
  • POINTING TO THE BUILDING WHERE
  • 00:39:24.220 --> 00:39:27.030
  • THEY EXECUTE.
  • 00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:28.050
  • HERE IS WHAT IS CRAZY.
  • 00:39:30.140 --> 00:39:33.140
  • WE THINK GOD IS LIKE THIS THAT
  • 00:39:34.010 --> 00:39:37.010
  • HE PUNISHES US FOR, WHAT FIX THE
  • 00:39:37.010 --> 00:39:39.150
  • BALANCE OF THE UNIVERSE OR
  • 00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:41.260
  • SOMETHING?
  • 00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:42.180
  • PUNISHMENT NEVER RESTORES
  • 00:39:42.180 --> 00:39:44.010
  • ANYTHING NOT IN THAT SENSE WE
  • 00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:46.230
  • HAVE THE RITUAL WHERE THEY
  • 00:39:47.090 --> 00:39:50.090
  • STERILIZE NEEDLES, HOW CRAZY IS
  • 00:39:50.140 --> 00:39:53.140
  • THAT?
  • 00:39:53.140 --> 00:39:53.270
  • THEY HAVE RESUSCITATION
  • 00:39:53.270 --> 00:39:56.180
  • EQUIPMENT.
  • 00:39:56.180 --> 00:39:56.290
  • THE TENSION IS SO HIGH THEY HAVE
  • 00:39:57.090 --> 00:40:00.090
  • A HEART ATTACK THEY WANT TO
  • 00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:03.190
  • RESUSCITATE THEM TO REKILL THEM.
  • 00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:05.190
  • THIS IS ABOUT A GOD WHO IS LOVE
  • 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:08.160
  • AND DOES NOT KNOW THE TRUTH
  • 00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:10.000
  • ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
  • 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.110
  • SAM IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS
  • 00:40:11.110 --> 00:40:12.290
  • JOURNEY, I LISTENED TO
  • 00:40:12.290 --> 00:40:15.040
  • INTERVIEWS, WHAT ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:16.190
  • FAITH JOURNEY?
  • 00:40:16.190 --> 00:40:17.190
  • HE SAID MACK KEN SEE I CENS ZE H
  • 00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:27.140
  • JOURNEY.
  • 00:40:27.140 --> 00:40:27.240
  • - WE ARE TALKING TO PAUL YOUNG.
  • 00:40:27.240 --> 00:40:30.170
  • THIS IS A CELEBRATORY WEEKEND
  • 00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:35.230
  • SUNDAY MARCH 5, HAPPY
  • 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.000
  • ANNIVERSARY, I ASKED HER-- WE
  • 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.220
  • HAVE ONE.
  • 00:40:41.220 --> 00:40:42.190
  • I ASKED HER TO MARRY ME IN THIS
  • 00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:46.020
  • ROOM 32 YEARS AGO TODAY.
  • 00:40:46.020 --> 00:40:47.140
  • AND SO, WE GO TO SAM WORTHINGTON
  • 00:40:49.130 --> 00:40:52.130
  • WHO PLAYS MACKENZIE IN "THE
  • 00:40:52.190 --> 00:40:55.190
  • SHACK."
  • 00:40:55.190 --> 00:40:55.290
  • - WHAT DO YOU THINK "THE SHACK"
  • 00:40:55.290 --> 00:40:57.030
  • IS ABOUT?
  • 00:40:57.030 --> 00:40:59.020
  • - A MOVIE ABOUT FORGIVENESS
  • 00:40:59.080 --> 00:41:02.100
  • PRIMARILY.
  • 00:41:02.100 --> 00:41:02.210
  • A MAN THAT LEARNS HOW TO FORGIVE
  • 00:41:04.070 --> 00:41:07.070
  • PROBABLY THE MOST HEARTBREAKING
  • 00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.080
  • SITUATION HE HAS COME ACROSS.
  • 00:41:11.020 --> 00:41:14.020
  • HE LEARNS HOW TO FIND
  • 00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:16.220
  • FORGIVENESS WITHIN HIMSELF AND
  • 00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:19.110
  • THAT CALM AND EASE A JOURNEY WE
  • 00:41:19.180 --> 00:41:22.180
  • CAN ALL ASSOCIATE WITH.
  • 00:41:22.180 --> 00:41:24.280
  • EVEN THOUGH IT IS EMOTIONAL
  • 00:41:25.100 --> 00:41:28.100
  • HEAVY LADEN, GOD WANTS US TO
  • 00:41:31.010 --> 00:41:34.010
  • LIVE A CALM PEACEFUL LIFE.
  • 00:41:34.030 --> 00:41:37.030
  • - MACK'S JOURNEY AS YOU STARTED
  • 00:41:37.030 --> 00:41:39.040
  • STEPPING THROUGH, YOU MEET IN
  • 00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:40.180
  • THE FILM, YOU MEET THE ACTOR
  • 00:41:40.180 --> 00:41:43.090
  • PLAYING JESUS.
  • 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:46.230
  • YOUR INTRODUCTION.
  • 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:48.180
  • WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
  • 00:41:48.180 --> 00:41:50.070
  • - IT WAS INTERESTING.
  • 00:41:50.070 --> 00:41:51.220
  • I WAS NOT RAISED RELIGIOUS.
  • 00:41:51.220 --> 00:41:54.220
  • AT 19 A FRIEND OF MINE GAVE ME A
  • 00:41:54.220 --> 00:41:56.190
  • BIBLE SAID YOU SHOULD READ SOME
  • 00:41:56.190 --> 00:41:59.180
  • OF THIS TO GIVE YOU SOME
  • 00:41:59.180 --> 00:42:01.290
  • DIRECTION.
  • 00:42:01.290 --> 00:42:02.210
  • AT 19 YOU RILE AGAINST THE
  • 00:42:02.210 --> 00:42:04.170
  • WORLD.
  • 00:42:04.170 --> 00:42:04.270
  • WHAT DO I CARE ABOUT GOD AND
  • 00:42:04.270 --> 00:42:07.100
  • JESUS AND CHRISTIANITY?
  • 00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:09.150
  • BUT AFTER READING THAT BOOK I
  • 00:42:09.150 --> 00:42:11.250
  • UNDERSTAND THE STORIES IN THERE
  • 00:42:11.250 --> 00:42:13.270
  • AND THE PROGRESSION HOW IT
  • 00:42:13.270 --> 00:42:15.270
  • HELPED ME.
  • 00:42:15.270 --> 00:42:16.260
  • WHEN YOU DO A MOVIE WHERE YOU
  • 00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:19.000
  • GET TO MEET GOD, JESUS AND THE
  • 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.120
  • HOLY SPIRIT, WE KIND OF CAME AT
  • 00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:23.000
  • IT FROM THE SAME WAY, THESE ARE
  • 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.020
  • QUESTIONS I'VE HAD IN MY LIFE TO
  • 00:42:25.020 --> 00:42:26.260
  • ASK GOD AND JESUS WHY STUFF
  • 00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:29.210
  • HAPPENS IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:42:29.220 --> 00:42:32.220
  • THE GUIDELINES THE BIBLE THE
  • 00:42:33.030 --> 00:42:36.030
  • DIRECTION THE BIBLE SHOWED ME
  • 00:42:36.030 --> 00:42:37.110
  • THROUGH THE STORIES, I GET TO
  • 00:42:37.110 --> 00:42:40.040
  • ASK HIM IN FICTION, FILM FORM.
  • 00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:44.200
  • IT IS VERY, VERY RARE.
  • 00:42:48.090 --> 00:42:51.090
  • SO, IT WAS A GROUNDING LEVEL
  • 00:42:51.130 --> 00:42:54.130
  • WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
  • 00:42:54.130 --> 00:42:56.020
  • - I WAS PERSONALLY IMPACTED
  • 00:42:56.020 --> 00:42:58.190
  • ABOUT THE SIMPLE MOMENT WHEN YOU
  • 00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:01.210
  • MEET GOD, WHEN YOU MEET O O O OR
  • 00:43:12.030 --> 00:43:15.030
  • TAIF I CAN'T YOU SAY DO I KNOW
  • 00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:17.150
  • YOU?
  • 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:17.230
  • - NOT VERY WELL.
  • 00:43:18.140 --> 00:43:21.140
  • - GOD COMES IN THE FORM THAT IS
  • 00:43:21.140 --> 00:43:24.130
  • NONTHREATENS.
  • 00:43:24.130 --> 00:43:24.260
  • MACK HAS GROWN UP IN A VIOLENT
  • 00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:28.200
  • BACKGROUND, A STRAINED
  • 00:43:28.200 --> 00:43:30.030
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FATHER.
  • 00:43:32.140 --> 00:43:35.140
  • IF IT WAS A MALE FORM IT WOULD
  • 00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:39.190
  • SCARE HIM AWAY.
  • 00:43:39.190 --> 00:43:41.130
  • SHE WAS IN A GENTLE FORM.
  • 00:43:41.130 --> 00:43:44.070
  • WE ALL HAVE A RELATIONSHIP TO
  • 00:43:45.140 --> 00:43:48.140
  • GOD, WHETHER YOU ARE RAISED
  • 00:43:48.140 --> 00:43:50.160
  • CHRISTIAN OR NOT.
  • 00:43:50.160 --> 00:43:51.120
  • WE ARE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
  • 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:53.010
  • WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS BALL
  • 00:43:53.010 --> 00:43:55.050
  • OF MUD THAT GIVES YOU HOPE AND
  • 00:43:55.170 --> 00:43:58.170
  • FAITH THAT IT IS OKAY.
  • 00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:00.030
  • I ALSO LIKE MACK IS SHOWN POWER
  • 00:44:02.130 --> 00:44:05.130
  • BY HER LOVE, THAT IS SOMETHING I
  • 00:44:05.130 --> 00:44:08.010
  • CAN RELATE TO, YOU CAN GO TO ANY
  • 00:44:08.010 --> 00:44:10.030
  • CHURCH AROUND THE WORLD AND FEEL
  • 00:44:10.030 --> 00:44:11.210
  • IT.
  • 00:44:11.210 --> 00:44:12.000
  • IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU SPEAK
  • 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.020
  • THE LANGUAGE OR NOT YOU FEEL THE
  • 00:44:14.020 --> 00:44:16.200
  • OPENNESS IN LOVE IN CHURCH.
  • 00:44:16.200 --> 00:44:19.190
  • MACK GETS OVERWHELMED BY HER
  • 00:44:20.230 --> 00:44:23.230
  • WILLINGNESS TO OPEN UP.
  • 00:44:23.230 --> 00:44:26.030
  • - THEY ARE FOR YOU, FOR THIS
  • 00:44:26.030 --> 00:44:27.250
  • FILM.
  • 00:44:27.250 --> 00:44:28.090
  • PEOPLE WILL FLOCK TO THE
  • 00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:30.120
  • THEATERS WATCHING THIS.
  • 00:44:30.170 --> 00:44:33.170
  • YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS IN REGARD TO
  • 00:44:33.170 --> 00:44:35.150
  • THIS FILM TO THEM?
  • 00:44:35.150 --> 00:44:37.200
  • - IT IS A HOPEFUL FILM.
  • 00:44:38.060 --> 00:44:41.060
  • WE HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED SOME
  • 00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:44.200
  • LOSS, GRIEF OR ANGER IN THE
  • 00:44:45.080 --> 00:44:48.080
  • WORLD.
  • 00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:48.170
  • IN OUR LIVES, "THE SHACK," THAT
  • 00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:50.160
  • IS WHERE IT IS.
  • 00:44:50.160 --> 00:44:51.220
  • A PARABLE.
  • 00:44:51.220 --> 00:44:53.050
  • "THE SHACK" IS A PARABLE FOR ALL
  • 00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:55.050
  • THE GRIEF AND BI BITTERNESS AND
  • 00:44:55.200 --> 00:44:58.200
  • RESENTMENT WE BUILD UP IN OUR
  • 00:44:58.200 --> 00:45:00.140
  • LIFE WE CARRY WITH US WE BUILD A
  • 00:45:00.140 --> 00:45:02.280
  • PLACE TO LIVE IN IT ALMOST THIS
  • 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.220
  • FILM SHOWS YOU HOW TO LET IT GO
  • 00:45:05.220 --> 00:45:07.290
  • AND MOVE FORWARD.
  • 00:45:07.290 --> 00:45:08.290
  • YOU WON'T GET THE ANSWERS RIGHT
  • 00:45:08.290 --> 00:45:11.200
  • AWAY, BUT, WE ARE ABLE TO TEACH
  • 00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:15.030
  • YOU HOW TO DO IT STEP-BY-STEP,
  • 00:45:15.030 --> 00:45:17.160
  • MOMENT BY MOMENT.
  • 00:45:17.160 --> 00:45:18.090
  • THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
  • 00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:21.240
  • - I THOUGHT SAM WAS A TERRIFIC
  • 00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:24.260
  • GUY THAT WAS ON HIS OWN JOURNEY.
  • 00:45:24.260 --> 00:45:27.240
  • WHAT A PERFECT SELECTION FOR THE
  • 00:45:27.240 --> 00:45:30.130
  • ROLE OF MACKENZIE.
  • 00:45:30.130 --> 00:45:32.170
  • AND WE WILL GO TO OCTAVIA NOW.
  • 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:35.240
  • WE HAD A CHANCE TO SIT WITH HER
  • 00:45:35.240 --> 00:45:37.260
  • THE OTHER DAY.
  • 00:45:39.180 --> 00:45:42.180
  • SOMEBODY HAS CREATED A
  • 00:45:42.180 --> 00:45:44.280
  • CONTROVERSY GOD SHOWED UP AS A
  • 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:47.050
  • WOMAN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN.
  • 00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:48.120
  • I LIKE TO SAY, IS IT THE BLACK
  • 00:45:48.120 --> 00:45:50.200
  • PART OR THE WOMAN PART THAT
  • 00:45:50.200 --> 00:45:52.150
  • BOTHERED YOU?
  • 00:45:52.150 --> 00:45:54.050
  • - EXACTLY.
  • 00:45:54.050 --> 00:45:54.190
  • THE IDEA GOD DECLARES WE WERE
  • 00:45:54.190 --> 00:45:56.260
  • CREATED IN HIS IMAGE WHY
  • 00:45:56.260 --> 00:45:59.000
  • COULDN'T HE SHOW UP AS ANYBODY?
  • 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.070
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:01.200
  • I TELL PEOPLE, IT DOES SAID HE
  • 00:46:01.200 --> 00:46:04.170
  • IS A MOTHER HEN WHO COVERS THE
  • 00:46:09.240 --> 00:46:12.240
  • CHICKS.
  • 00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:13.040
  • - I'M NOT--
  • 00:46:13.040 --> 00:46:16.020
  • - SO, IF GOD SHOWS UP TO ME AS
  • 00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:19.050
  • A BURNING BUSH, OR ALL THE
  • 00:46:19.140 --> 00:46:22.140
  • DIFFERENT WAYS IN SCRIPTURE,
  • 00:46:22.140 --> 00:46:25.080
  • CECIL B. DE MILLES MOVIE HE
  • 00:46:25.080 --> 00:46:27.190
  • SHOWS UP, THE IDEA, IF GOD EVER
  • 00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:31.110
  • SURPRISES ME AND SHOWS UP IN
  • 00:46:31.110 --> 00:46:33.070
  • PERSON I HOPE IT IS OCTAVIA.
  • 00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:36.110
  • SHE IS IN YOUR FACE.
  • 00:46:36.110 --> 00:46:38.180
  • - SOME OF MY FRIEND WHO ARE
  • 00:46:38.180 --> 00:46:41.120
  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMEN I KNOW
  • 00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:42.160
  • THEY LOVE ME BUT THEY DON'T LET
  • 00:46:42.160 --> 00:46:44.050
  • ME GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING.
  • 00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:47.240
  • - TODAY IS MARCH 5.
  • 00:46:47.240 --> 00:46:49.180
  • WE ARE CELEBRATING, WE ARE
  • 00:46:49.180 --> 00:46:52.030
  • SPIKING THE FOOTBALL IF WE WERE
  • 00:46:52.030 --> 00:46:54.080
  • FOOTBALL PLAYERS WE WOULD NEED
  • 00:46:54.080 --> 00:46:56.150
  • TO BE BIGGER.
  • 00:46:56.150 --> 00:46:57.210
  • - A RUGBY BALL.
  • 00:46:57.210 --> 00:46:59.030
  • - WE ARE HERE THRILLED THAT THE
  • 00:46:59.030 --> 00:47:01.110
  • MOVIE "THE SHACK" AND ALL THE
  • 00:47:01.110 --> 00:47:02.230
  • EPISODES OF THE SERIES RESTORING
  • 00:47:02.230 --> 00:47:05.090
  • "THE SHACK," IT IS A CELEBRATORY
  • 00:47:05.200 --> 00:47:08.200
  • WEEKEND.
  • 00:47:08.200 --> 00:47:09.010
  • THIS IS THE WEEKEND WE PRAYED
  • 00:47:09.010 --> 00:47:10.200
  • FOR, THE CONTENT, THE BEST
  • 00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:12.180
  • CONTENT WE COULD CREATE WAS OUT
  • 00:47:12.180 --> 00:47:15.010
  • THERE DOING EVERYTHING IT NEEDS
  • 00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:16.270
  • TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE.
  • 00:47:16.270 --> 00:47:18.180
  • THESE ARE GREAT WEEKENDS FOR US
  • 00:47:18.180 --> 00:47:20.150
  • WHAT A THRILL TO BE SITTING HERE
  • 00:47:20.150 --> 00:47:22.180
  • ON MARCH 5.
  • 00:47:22.220 --> 00:47:25.220
  • - IT CAME OUT ON 3, 3.
  • 00:47:26.010 --> 00:47:29.010
  • LIONS GATE DID NOT REALIZE.
  • 00:47:29.010 --> 00:47:31.060
  • CAME OUT ON 3, 3.
  • 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.280
  • LIKE TRINITY.
  • 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:36.180
  • I THINK YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING.
  • 00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:39.030
  • - "THE SHACK" IS IN THEATERS
  • 00:47:39.030 --> 00:47:40.250
  • NOW.
  • 00:47:40.250 --> 00:47:41.160
  • WE GOT TO SIT DOWN WITH OCTAVIA.
  • 00:47:41.210 --> 00:47:44.210
  • - FIRST OF ALL, OCTAVIA, YOU
  • 00:47:44.210 --> 00:47:47.060
  • LOOK AMAZING.
  • 00:47:47.060 --> 00:47:48.130
  • THE IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING
  • 00:47:49.060 --> 00:47:52.060
  • ABOUT, THIS BOOK, IT WAS VERY
  • 00:47:52.060 --> 00:47:54.140
  • BELOVED BY THE TBN AUDIENCE,
  • 00:47:54.140 --> 00:47:56.100
  • VERY BELOVED BY THE FAITH
  • 00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:59.110
  • AUDIENCE.
  • 00:47:59.110 --> 00:47:59.220
  • WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE
  • 00:47:59.220 --> 00:48:01.150
  • BOOK?
  • 00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:01.290
  • - I LOVED IT.
  • 00:48:01.290 --> 00:48:04.020
  • I CAME TO IT PROBABLY THE SAME
  • 00:48:04.020 --> 00:48:06.030
  • WAY YOUR AUDIENCE CAME TO IT.
  • 00:48:06.030 --> 00:48:07.290
  • I READ IT AS A LOVER OF ALL
  • 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.000
  • THINGS.
  • 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:15.160
  • YOU HAD THE FAITH ELEMENT
  • 00:48:15.260 --> 00:48:18.260
  • BEAUTIFULLY DONE AND AN
  • 00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:19.260
  • INTERESTING WAY TO INVOKE GOD.
  • 00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:26.030
  • - IT IS A GOOD TIME TO CALL ON
  • 00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:27.270
  • THE NAME OF GOD IN OUR COUNTRY.
  • 00:48:27.270 --> 00:48:30.140
  • THERE IS A DEEP DIVIDE UNIT
  • 00:48:31.040 --> 00:48:34.040
  • ISSUES IN THIS MOVIE.
  • 00:48:34.130 --> 00:48:37.130
  • - WE ALL FACE CHALLENGES.
  • 00:48:37.130 --> 00:48:39.010
  • WHAT THIS MOVIE OFFERS IS A WAY
  • 00:48:40.210 --> 00:48:43.210
  • TO EXAMINE OUR OWN LIVES AND HOW
  • 00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:49.230
  • OWN WALK WITH GOD AFFECTS THE
  • 00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:52.050
  • LIFE OF OTHERS, EVERYTHING
  • 00:48:52.050 --> 00:48:53.170
  • HAPPENS FOR A REASON.
  • 00:48:53.170 --> 00:48:55.060
  • THIS BOOK, THIS MOVIE THE BOOK
  • 00:48:55.060 --> 00:48:57.010
  • CAME OUT THIS MOVIE IS COMING
  • 00:48:57.010 --> 00:48:58.230
  • OUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME
  • 00:48:58.230 --> 00:49:00.240
  • MEANS IT WAS MEANT FOR THIS
  • 00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:04.050
  • TIME.
  • 00:49:04.050 --> 00:49:04.240
  • - THE NAMES OF CHARLTON HESTON,
  • 00:49:05.030 --> 00:49:08.030
  • GEORGE BURNS, MORGAN FREEMAN AND
  • 00:49:09.080 --> 00:49:12.080
  • OCTAVIA SPENCER WILL BE LINKED
  • 00:49:12.080 --> 00:49:14.090
  • TOGETHER BECAUSE OF GOD.
  • 00:49:14.090 --> 00:49:16.010
  • WHAT NUANCE DID YOU BRING TO
  • 00:49:16.010 --> 00:49:18.170
  • THIS ROLE?
  • 00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:19.250
  • - FOR ME, I HAD TO ACTUALLY NOT
  • 00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:22.190
  • THINK ABOUT IT AS GOD.
  • 00:49:22.190 --> 00:49:24.170
  • IT WAS TOO DAUNTING OF A TASK.
  • 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.000
  • FOR ME IT WAS THINKING ABOUT
  • 00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:32.010
  • OMNIPRESENT ALL KNOWING, ALL
  • 00:49:32.010 --> 00:49:34.070
  • THOSE THINGS, I HAD SEVERAL
  • 00:49:34.070 --> 00:49:36.200
  • PANIC ATTACKS.
  • 00:49:36.200 --> 00:49:38.050
  • WHEN I THOUGHT WHAT MY
  • 00:49:38.050 --> 00:49:40.060
  • RELATIONSHIP WAS, I'M THE CHILD,
  • 00:49:42.200 --> 00:49:45.200
  • I AS A PERSON PLAYING THE
  • 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:47.190
  • FATHER, THEN I REALIZED THE
  • 00:49:47.250 --> 00:49:50.250
  • RELATIONSHIP WAS PARENTAL.
  • 00:49:50.250 --> 00:49:52.070
  • SO THAT IS HOW I APPROACHED IT
  • 00:49:52.070 --> 00:49:54.240
  • AS A PARENT TO A PRODIGAL CHILD.
  • 00:49:58.210 --> 00:50:01.210
  • - WE ALL PRAY EVERYTHING WE
  • 00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:04.080
  • POUR OUR SOULS AND TIME INTO HAS
  • 00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:08.040
  • AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE.
  • 00:50:08.040 --> 00:50:09.180
  • HOW DO YOU WANT THIS FILM TO
  • 00:50:09.180 --> 00:50:11.180
  • IMPACT THOSE WHO SEE IT?
  • 00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:13.120
  • - BECAUSE WE KNOW EVERYONE
  • 00:50:13.120 --> 00:50:16.030
  • FACES CHALLENGES ON A DAILY
  • 00:50:16.030 --> 00:50:17.200
  • BASIS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
  • 00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:19.110
  • CHALLENGES ARE.
  • 00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:20.030
  • BUT FOR THE PERSON GOING THROUGH
  • 00:50:20.040 --> 00:50:23.040
  • THEM, THEY CAN BE VERY HEAVY.
  • 00:50:24.140 --> 00:50:27.140
  • SO, FOR ME, WHEN PEOPLE VIEW
  • 00:50:27.140 --> 00:50:29.210
  • THIS FILM, JUST LIKE THEY
  • 00:50:31.050 --> 00:50:34.050
  • EXPERIENCE THE BOOK OR THOSE
  • 00:50:34.050 --> 00:50:36.080
  • THAT HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK AND
  • 00:50:36.080 --> 00:50:38.030
  • THEY HEAR THE QUESTIONS POSED TO
  • 00:50:38.030 --> 00:50:40.140
  • GOD AND HOW GOD ANSWERS THOSE
  • 00:50:40.290 --> 00:50:43.290
  • QUESTIONS, PERHAPS THOSE PEOPLE
  • 00:50:43.290 --> 00:50:45.000
  • THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOMETHING
  • 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.120
  • IN THEIR LIVES PERHAPS FOR ME
  • 00:50:47.250 --> 00:50:50.250
  • THAT WOULD BECOME LIGHTER.
  • 00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:52.140
  • - WE HAVE SEEN THE FILM WE ARE
  • 00:50:52.140 --> 00:50:54.090
  • PROUD OF IT AND PROUD OF YOU IN
  • 00:50:54.090 --> 00:50:57.010
  • REGARD TO THIS.
  • 00:50:57.010 --> 00:50:57.240
  • IT IS AN IMPACTFUL FILM AND WE
  • 00:50:57.240 --> 00:51:00.160
  • ARE RECOMMENDING IT TO OUR
  • 00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:02.240
  • AUDIENCE.
  • 00:51:02.240 --> 00:51:03.160
  • ONE FINAL THING, WHAT IMPACTED
  • 00:51:03.160 --> 00:51:05.210
  • THIS MOVIE EXPERIENCE DID IT
  • 00:51:05.210 --> 00:51:07.050
  • HAVE ON YOU?
  • 00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:09.050
  • - I REALIZED, I THOUGHT THAT I
  • 00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:13.030
  • WAS A FORGIVING AND PATIENT
  • 00:51:13.030 --> 00:51:15.140
  • PERSON, BUT UNTIL YOU CAST
  • 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:19.080
  • YOURSELF IN THE ROLE AS GOD AND
  • 00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:21.130
  • THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD ON YOUR
  • 00:51:21.130 --> 00:51:23.180
  • SHOULDERS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:25.060
  • TRUE FORGIVENESS IS AND TRUE
  • 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.000
  • PATIENCE.
  • 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:30.110
  • I GOT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT A LOT
  • 00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:33.190
  • BETTER.
  • 00:51:33.190 --> 00:51:33.290
  • - WHEN WE MEET OUR MAKER, WE
  • 00:51:33.290 --> 00:51:35.280
  • HOPE IT IS YOU.
  • 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.110
  • (LAUGHTER).
  • 00:51:38.110 --> 00:51:38.240
  • - THANK YOU.
  • 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.000
  • - FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW WHAT,
  • 00:51:43.160 --> 00:51:46.160
  • WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
  • 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.280
  • ATMOSPHERE HERE RIGHT HERE
  • 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.060
  • SITTING WITH YOU, PAUL, ON THIS
  • 00:51:51.180 --> 00:51:54.180
  • AMAZINGLY BUSY WEEKEND ON THIS
  • 00:51:55.180 --> 00:51:58.180
  • AMAZINGLY CRUSHING
  • 00:51:58.210 --> 00:52:01.230
  • RESPONSIBILITY, HIT MOVIE,
  • 00:52:01.230 --> 00:52:03.160
  • NUMBER ONE BOOKS, WE ARE
  • 00:52:03.160 --> 00:52:06.040
  • ENJOYING AND DA BASKING IN THE Y
  • 00:52:07.290 --> 00:52:10.290
  • OF THE LORD.
  • 00:52:10.290 --> 00:52:12.270
  • - THE JOY IS OUR STRENGTH IN
  • 00:52:12.270 --> 00:52:15.130
  • HIS PRESENCE THERE IS JOY.
  • 00:52:15.130 --> 00:52:16.220
  • WE ARE DESIGNED TO LIVE IN ONE
  • 00:52:16.220 --> 00:52:19.030
  • DAY GRACE, THAT IS TODAY.
  • 00:52:19.030 --> 00:52:21.060
  • EVERYTHING ELSE IS IMAGINATION.
  • 00:52:21.060 --> 00:52:23.100
  • LET'S SPEND TODAY'S GRACE TODAY.
  • 00:52:23.100 --> 00:52:25.100
  • THAT IS WHERE OUR STRENGTH COMES
  • 00:52:25.290 --> 00:52:28.290
  • FROM IN THE JOY IN THE PRESENCE.
  • 00:52:28.290 --> 00:52:31.050
  • THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW.
  • 00:52:31.050 --> 00:52:33.170
  • THIS IS A BOOK, A MOVIE, THE
  • 00:52:33.170 --> 00:52:35.220
  • CREATION OF ONE BABY WILL OUT
  • 00:52:35.220 --> 00:52:38.050
  • LAST THE BOOK OR THE MOVIE, IT
  • 00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:41.100
  • IS TWO HUMAN BEINGS FOR WHATEVER
  • 00:52:42.010 --> 00:52:45.010
  • MOTIVATION COME TOGETHER TO
  • 00:52:45.010 --> 00:52:47.100
  • CREATE AND GOD JOINS WITH THEM
  • 00:52:47.100 --> 00:52:49.050
  • TO ADD THE LIFE OF SOMETHING
  • 00:52:49.130 --> 00:52:52.130
  • THAT WILL STAGGER US FOR
  • 00:52:53.060 --> 00:52:56.060
  • ETERNITY.
  • 00:52:56.060 --> 00:52:56.170
  • AND SO, JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE,
  • 00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:59.280
  • THAT MATTERS.
  • 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.270
  • THAT MATTERS.
  • 00:53:00.270 --> 00:53:02.020
  • THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:53:02.020 --> 00:53:03.050
  • I LOVE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO
  • 00:53:03.050 --> 00:53:05.160
  • PARTICIPATE IN IT AND CELEBRATE
  • 00:53:05.160 --> 00:53:07.260
  • TOGETHER.
  • 00:53:07.260 --> 00:53:08.070
  • HOW COOL IS THAT?
  • 00:53:08.070 --> 00:53:09.240
  • BUT IN THE BIG PICTURE, IT IS
  • 00:53:09.240 --> 00:53:12.180
  • PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS WHO MATTER.
  • 00:53:12.180 --> 00:53:15.060
  • - I'M GOING TO TELL THE
  • 00:53:15.060 --> 00:53:16.110
  • PRODUCTION GUYS TO GO AHEAD AND
  • 00:53:16.110 --> 00:53:18.070
  • BRING IN OUR GLASSES OF
  • 00:53:18.190 --> 00:53:21.190
  • CHAMPAGNE.
  • 00:53:21.190 --> 00:53:22.000
  • OH, WAIT, WE DON'T DRINK.
  • 00:53:22.290 --> 00:53:25.290
  • - I'M ALLERGIC.
  • 00:53:25.290 --> 00:53:27.150
  • - JUST MAKE IT APPLE JUICE.
  • 00:53:27.150 --> 00:53:29.150
  • WE CELEBRATE YOU ALL OF THOSE
  • 00:53:29.150 --> 00:53:31.260
  • THAT WORKED ON THE MOVIE.
  • 00:53:31.260 --> 00:53:33.150
  • WE ARE THRILLED FOR YOU, STAY
  • 00:53:33.190 --> 00:53:36.190
  • TUNED.
  • 00:53:36.190 --> 00:53:36.280
  • RIGHT NOW ON TBN, TRINITY
  • 00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:41.070
  • BROADCASTING ORIGINAL CONTENT
  • 00:53:41.070 --> 00:53:42.110
  • SHOT UP IN MONTANA, EPISODES ONE
  • 00:53:42.270 --> 00:53:45.270
  • THROUGH FOUR OF "THE SHACK" ARE
  • 00:53:45.270 --> 00:53:48.040
  • GOING TO PLAY RIGHT AT THE
  • 00:53:48.040 --> 00:53:50.090
  • CONCLUSION OF THIS BROADCAST.
  • 00:53:50.090 --> 00:53:52.060
  • AND WE HOPE THAT THESE FIRST
  • 00:53:52.060 --> 00:53:54.160
  • FOUR EPISODES START YOUR JOURNEY
  • 00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:57.260
  • OF RESTORATION AND ALL THAT.
  • 00:53:58.070 --> 00:54:01.090
  • YOUR LATEST BOOK, LIES WE
  • 00:54:02.050 --> 00:54:05.050
  • BELIEVE ABOUT GOD IS COMING OUT
  • 00:54:05.050 --> 00:54:06.280
  • IN A COUPLE DAYS.
  • 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.120
  • YOU ARE HERE NOW, IT IS
  • 00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:10.010
  • AVAILABLE NOW.
  • 00:54:10.010 --> 00:54:11.200
  • THE 800 NUMBER SON T IS ON THE ,
  • 00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:16.110
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS BOOK TO
  • 00:54:16.110 --> 00:54:18.020
  • SAY TO PEOPLE AND GET THEM HELP
  • 00:54:18.020 --> 00:54:19.250
  • THROUGH IT?
  • 00:54:19.250 --> 00:54:21.030
  • - WHAT I WANT ABOUT ANYTHING I
  • 00:54:21.030 --> 00:54:23.260
  • PARTICIPATE IN, CROSSROADS, EVE,
  • 00:54:24.200 --> 00:54:27.200
  • THIS BOOK.
  • 00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:28.060
  • I DON'T WANT TO BE A VOICE OF
  • 00:54:29.110 --> 00:54:32.110
  • DIVIDE.
  • 00:54:32.110 --> 00:54:32.210
  • THOSE VOICES HAVE DOMINATED FOR
  • 00:54:32.210 --> 00:54:35.050
  • TOO LONG.
  • 00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:35.290
  • I DON'T WANT WHAT I WRITE TO
  • 00:54:36.230 --> 00:54:39.230
  • DIVIDE THE COMMUNITY OF FAITH OR
  • 00:54:40.180 --> 00:54:43.180
  • HUMANITY.
  • 00:54:43.180 --> 00:54:44.000
  • I'M EXPLORING REAL QUESTIONS.
  • 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.170
  • MY HOPE IS, THESE CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:54:46.170 --> 00:54:48.210
  • WILL ACTUALLY HELP US CELEBRATE
  • 00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:50.150
  • WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON AND
  • 00:54:50.150 --> 00:54:52.250
  • CELEBRATE OUR DIVERSITY AT THE
  • 00:54:52.250 --> 00:54:54.270
  • SAME TIME SO WE CAN CHANGE THIS
  • 00:54:54.290 --> 00:54:57.290
  • CONVERSATION IN ORDER TO BEGIN
  • 00:54:57.290 --> 00:54:58.280
  • TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.200
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:02.060
  • TO LOVE GOD, TO LOVE ONE
  • 00:55:02.060 --> 00:55:05.030
  • ANOTHER.
  • 00:55:05.030 --> 00:55:05.130
  • I THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS IN
  • 00:55:05.130 --> 00:55:07.070
  • THIS BOOK WILL BE HELPFUL.
  • 00:55:07.070 --> 00:55:09.120
  • I HOPE EVERYTHING I DO IS
  • 00:55:09.120 --> 00:55:11.290
  • HELPFUL.
  • 00:55:11.290 --> 00:55:12.090
  • THIS IS ABOUT COMING TOGETHER
  • 00:55:12.090 --> 00:55:13.140
  • AND MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER.
  • 00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:15.180
  • - GET THE BOOK.
  • 00:55:15.180 --> 00:55:16.110
  • WE HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES.
  • 00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:18.230
  • WOULD YOU PRAY FOR SOMEONE
  • 00:55:18.230 --> 00:55:19.280
  • BROKEN IN THIS AUDIENCE.
  • 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.070
  • - ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:55:22.070 --> 00:55:22.230
  • - THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
  • 00:55:22.230 --> 00:55:24.230
  • - LET ME TELL YOU WHY I DON'T
  • 00:55:24.230 --> 00:55:27.060
  • BOW MY HEAD AND CLOSE MY EYES
  • 00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:30.200
  • ANYMORE, I COME FROM A
  • 00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:32.110
  • BACKGROUND OF SHAME.
  • 00:55:32.250 --> 00:55:35.250
  • AND SHAME ALWAYS DROVE MY EYES
  • 00:55:35.250 --> 00:55:38.080
  • TO THE GROUND.
  • 00:55:38.080 --> 00:55:40.130
  • EARLY CHURCH, THEY NEVER PRAYED
  • 00:55:40.130 --> 00:55:42.290
  • WITH THEIR EYES DOWN BECAUSE OF
  • 00:55:42.290 --> 00:55:45.160
  • THAT.
  • 00:55:45.160 --> 00:55:45.250
  • THEY LOOKED AROUND AT THE BEAUTY
  • 00:55:45.250 --> 00:55:47.270
  • OF CREATION AND ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:55:47.270 --> 00:55:50.080
  • HUMAN BEINGS MADE IN THE IMAGE
  • 00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:52.230
  • OF GOD.
  • 00:55:52.230 --> 00:55:54.000
  • I PRAY THAT YOU HAVE AN
  • 00:55:54.090 --> 00:55:57.090
  • ENCOUNTER BIT BY BIT BECAUSE I
  • 00:55:57.090 --> 00:55:59.170
  • WOULD LOVE TO SAY IT IS AN EASY
  • 00:56:00.210 --> 00:56:03.210
  • FIX, BUT IT IS A PROCESS AND A
  • 00:56:03.210 --> 00:56:05.070
  • LOT OF WORK.
  • 00:56:05.070 --> 00:56:06.180
  • GOD WILL NOT HEAL YOU APART FROM
  • 00:56:06.180 --> 00:56:08.200
  • YOUR PARTICIPATION IT WON'T
  • 00:56:08.200 --> 00:56:10.220
  • HAPPEN ALONE EITHER.
  • 00:56:10.220 --> 00:56:12.160
  • HOLY SPIRIT, ENVELOPE US INSIDE
  • 00:56:12.160 --> 00:56:14.040
  • COMMUNITY AND GRANT TO US THE
  • 00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:16.270
  • NEXT STEP INSIDE THE GRACE OF
  • 00:56:16.270 --> 00:56:18.260
  • JUSTICE DAY.
  • 00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:19.270
  • AND WE TRUST YOU WITH OUR HEART
  • 00:56:19.270 --> 00:56:22.120
  • AS BROKEN AS THEY MIGHT BE AND
  • 00:56:22.120 --> 00:56:24.100
  • WE SAY, HERE I AM, MEET ME HERE.
  • 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.000
  • LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO
  • 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.290
  • BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY
  • 00:56:33.290 --> 00:56:36.280
  • ALIVE AND WHOLE AND MAY THAT
  • 00:56:38.070 --> 00:56:41.070
  • SPILL OUT INTO THE WORLD.
  • 00:56:41.070 --> 00:56:43.020
  • AMEN.
  • 00:56:43.020 --> 00:56:43.160
  • IN JESUS' NAME.
  • 00:56:43.160 --> 00:56:46.140
  • - AMEN.
  • 00:56:46.140 --> 00:56:46.270
  • THE EPISODES OF ORIGINAL CONTENT
  • 00:56:46.270 --> 00:56:49.150
  • CREATED RIGHT HERE AT TRINITY
  • 00:56:49.150 --> 00:56:51.160
  • BROADCASTING IS SO THAT YOU
  • 00:56:51.160 --> 00:56:52.250
  • WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:56:52.250 --> 00:56:54.200
  • HEAL, WE THANK YOU, PAUL, FOR
  • 00:56:54.200 --> 00:56:56.180
  • BEING HERE.
  • 00:56:56.180 --> 00:56:58.220
  • ENJOY EPISODES ONE THROUGH FOUR
  • 00:56:58.220 --> 00:57:01.180
  • RIGHT HERE EXCLUSIVELY ON TBN.
  • 00:57:01.250 --> 00:57:04.250
  • THANK YOU, PAUL.
  • 00:57:04.250 --> 00:57:06.080