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Praise | LaVerne and Edith Tripp | July 19, 2019

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - TONIGHT ON PRAISE FROM NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE,
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  • MUSICAL EVANGELISTS AND RECORDING ARTISTS LAVERNE
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  • AND EDITH TRIPP.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - AND NOW MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: THIS PRAISE COMES TO YOU TODAY
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  • FROM THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE,
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  • AND IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO A FAMILY REUNION AND
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  • YOU WERE GOING TO GET OUT SOME OLD SCRAP BOOKS, AND
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  • YOU WERE GOING TO GET OUT SOME OLD VHS TAPES, AND
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  • YOU WERE GOING TO DO ALL THAT --
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: GET THE KLEENEX.
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  • - THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM MEANS TO LAURIE
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  • AND I.
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  • WELCOME TO PRAISE THOSE OF YOU WATCHING AROUND
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  • THE WORLD.
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  • I HAVE THE FUNNEST ANNOUNCEMENT.
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  • MAKE WELCOME TO PRAISE LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP.
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  • COME ON NOW.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - CALL YOUR MOTHER.
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  • CALL YOUR GRANDMAS.
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  • - CALL GRANNY FOR SURE.
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  • - IF SHE'S STILL LIVING.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE YOUNGER THAN LAURIE AND
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  • I, WE WANT TO INTRODUCE LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP.
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  • LAVERNE AND EDITH ARE DEAR FRIENDS FOR MANY
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  • MANY YEARS.
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  • LAVERNE, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO KIND OF TELL A
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  • LITTLE BIT OF THE ORIGINAL STORIES.
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  • GO BACK IN THE DAY.
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  • MY MOM AND DADDY ARE IN HEAVEN.
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  • YOU SERVED ALONGSIDE THEM FOR MANY MANY YEARS.
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  • - ABOUT 25 YEARS.
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  • - YOU WERE A PART OF THE FOUNDATION, THE
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  • FORMULATION, THE ORIGINAL VISION OF WHAT THIS
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  • MINISTRY IS.
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  • TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK WOULD NOT BE THE
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  • SAME WITHOUT LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP, AND WE LOVE
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  • YOU VERY MUCH.
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  • SO WE'RE INTRODUCING YOU TO SOME, BUT TO THOSE
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  • THAT ARE OLDER THAN LAURIE AND I, THEY'RE
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  • GOING OH MY GOSH!
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  • LOOK AT THAT.
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  • LOOK AT THAT.
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  • THAT'S LAVERNE AND EDITH RIGHT THERE.
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  • - GOOD SAKES, THEY'RE STILL ALIVE.
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  • - EDITH TRIPP: WE'RE GLAD TO BE WITH YOU ALL.
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  • - WE'RE GOING TO SIT AND VAMP FOR A SECOND AND
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  • TALK ABOUT THEM AND BRAG ON THEM SOME.
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  • GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO CALL YOUR GRANDMOTHER,
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  • GRANDFATHER, YOUR MOM, YOUR DAD AND SAY TURN ON
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  • TBN RIGHT NOW.
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  • - YOUR GREAT GRANDMOTHER.
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  • - GREAT GRANNY.
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  • SO LET'S START, LAVERNE, BECAUSE I HAD THE
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  • OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER TO YOUR HOUSE JUST A FEW
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  • DAYS AGO, AND I NEEDED TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE STORY
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  • FILLED IN A LITTLE BIT.
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  • HOW DID WE FIND YOU?
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  • YOU FIND US?
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  • HOW DID LAVERNE TRIPP MINISTRIES AND TBN GET
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  • STARTED WAY BACK IN THE 70'S?
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  • [EXHALES]
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  • - OKAY, ALL I EVER WANTED TO DO WAS SING SO I SET
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  • OUT TO SING.
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  • THEY TOLD ME I WAS CALLED TO PREACH.
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  • I FOUND OUT I COULDN'T LIVE A GOOD ENOUGH LIFE
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  • TO BE A PREACHER SO I DECIDED I WOULD SING
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  • [ LAUGHTER ] BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS A GOSPEL
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  • SINGER DON'T HAVE TO LIVE AS GOOD A
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  • LIFE AS A PREACHER.
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  • - THAT'S AN AWESOME FIRST LINE FOR --
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  • - LET ME GET STARTED BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU
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  • THE TRUTH.
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  • - ARE YOU QUALIFIED?
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  • - UNDOUBTEDLY.
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  • - AND SO I FINALLY MADE IT WITH THE
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  • BLUE RIDGE QUARTET.
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  • OKAY.
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  • TOOK A LONG TIME, AND STARTED WRITING NUMBER
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  • ONE SONGS.
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  • EVERY DREAM I HAD HAD COME TRUE.
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  • - WHAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE SONG?
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  • ANY ONE.
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  • - THERE WERE 3 OF THEM.
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  • I KNOW I KNOW THERE WERE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
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  • THE BLUE RIDGE SANG IT, OAK RIDGE BOYS.
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  • EVERY GROUP SANG I KNOW.
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  • THAT WAS THE FIRST NUMBER ONE SONG.
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  • IT HIT NUMBER ONE IN 1971.
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  • TOLD MY GRANDSON THE OTHER DAY DJ SENT ME A
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  • COPY OF IT IN 1971 LIVE ON STAGE.
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  • - OH MY WORD.
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  • - THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TBN, OKAY.
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  • - NO, I LOVE THIS.
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  • I LOVE THIS.
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  • - SO HE WAS IN THE SERVICES.
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  • ED SAID WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
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  • THAT WAS THE NIGHT IT WAS ANNOUNCED.
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  • I SAID, YEAH.
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  • SO SENT IT TO ME, AND IT WAS JANUARY OF 1971.
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  • IT HAD JUST HIT NUMBER ONE, THE SINGING NEWS
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  • GOSPEL MUSIC PUBLICATION.
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  • SO WE WERE SINGING IT.
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  • I RECORDED IT ABOUT FOUR TIMES.
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  • THE OAK RIDGE CAME OUT ON THE STAGE WITH US AND
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  • SANG AND WE WERE SINGING TOGETHER.
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  • BLUE RIDGE.
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  • I WANTED MY GRANDSON SO HEAR IT.
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  • HE'S 14 NOW.
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  • - OUR FAVORITE GRANDSON.
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  • - THE ONLY ONE IS WHAT WE ALWAYS SAID SO I
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  • BROUGHT HIM IN THE OFFICE.
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  • I PLAYED IT IN.
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  • HE LISTENED.
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  • WHEN IT FINISHED HE SAID, SO THAT SONG WAS
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  • NUMBER ONE?
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  • [LAUGHTER] I SAID, YEAH.
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  • HE SAID WHAT DID THE OTHER ONES SOUND LIKE?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - WE WERE LIKE GET OUT OF HERE.
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  • - HE'S 14.
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  • WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
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  • SO WHAT HAPPENED THOUGH I -GOD SENT A MESSENGER TO
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  • ME IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA.
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  • I TOLD THAT MANY TIMES ON TBN 15 YEARS AGO, BUT I
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  • WON'T GO INTO ALL THAT STORY NOW, BUT IT WAS A
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  • TURNING POINT IN MY LIFE.
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  • - WELL, DO A LITTLE BIT.
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  • - WELL, WHEN WE FINISHED SINGING THAT NIGHT AND AT
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  • THAT TIME AS I SAID WE HAD THREE NUMBER ONES.
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  • MY SONG KNOCKED MY SONG OUT OF FIRST PLACE, THE
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  • NEXT ONE DID, I WAS VOTED MAIL VOCALIST OF THE
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  • YEAR, SONGWRITER, THE WHOLE BIT.
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  • EVERYTHING I DREAMED OF.
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  • - AND I HAD TO LIVE WITH HIM.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - YOU STAYED HOME THEN.
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  • THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD MIXED SINGING.
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  • - I HEAR THAT.
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  • - AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I EVER WANTED, AND I
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  • WAS MISERABLE BECAUSE I'D BEEN HIGH FOR A COUPLE
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  • OF YEARS.
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  • POT, WHEN I WAS INTRODUCED TO THAT I
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  • THOUGHT MAN, THIS WILL FIX THE WHOLE WORLD AND
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  • EVERYBODY IS HAPPY AND LAUGHING AND YOU EAT AND
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  • YOU LAUGH.
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  • WHAT BETTER DO YOU WANT?
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  • THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
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  • BY THE TIME TWO YEARS CAME UP I WAS TORMENTED
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  • DAY AND NIGHT.
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  • THIS GIRL CAME TO THE SINGING THAT NIGHT, AND
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  • SHE SAID THE LORD SENT HER THERE.
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  • WHEN WE CAME ON STAGE, SHE SAID THE LORD SHOWED
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  • ME A DARK CLOUD HANGING OVER THE GROUP.
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  • SHE SAID, I STARTED PRAYING BECAUSE I DIDN'T
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  • UNDERSTAND, AND THE CENTERED DIRECTLY
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  • OVER YOU.
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  • - COME ON NOW.
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  • BEAUTIFUL.
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  • - AND HE SAID THROUGH HER TO ME, HE SAID I HAVE
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  • A WORK FOR HIM TO DO BUT HE WON'T DO WHAT I WANT
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  • HIM TO AND BECAUSE OF HIM THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE
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  • GOING TO HELL.
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  • SO I BEGAN TO JUST LIKE A MOVIE PICTURE,
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  • I SAW MY LIFE.
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  • I SAW MY 2 SONS BECAUSE MY PLAN WAS IT WON'T BE
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  • LONG, I WAS THE YOUNGEST ONE THERE, I WAS AN EQUAL
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  • PARTNER IN THE GROUP.
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  • THERE WERE 11 MEN ON THAT BUS.
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  • THE BAND, THE SINGERS, THE WHOLE BIT, I KNEW IT
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  • WOULD BE MINE.
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  • I HAD TWO SONS COMING ALONG THAT WOULD BE A
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  • PART OF ALL THIS.
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  • THIS IS MY FANTASY, BUT I SAW THEM AND I REALIZED
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  • THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO HELL AND I'M THE REASON.
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  • AND I TOLD HER, I SAID I'D LIKE TO BE A
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  • CHRISTIAN BUT I CAN'T LIVE IT.
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  • I WAS RAISED IN CHURCH.
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  • GOT KICKED OUT OF BIBLE SCHOOL, GOT ALL KINDS
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  • OF STUFF.
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  • I JUST COULDN'T LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD.
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  • THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE LIKE THAT WATCHING AND I
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  • KNOW IT.
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  • THEY'RE TRYING TO LIVE UP TO A STANDARD THEY CAN'T
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  • LIVE UP TO.
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  • THAT'S ANOTHER STORY, BUT I'LL PICK UP ON THAT ONE,
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  • AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT.
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  • SHE SAID WELL, LET ME PRAY FOR YOU.
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  • I SAID YOU CAN PRAY.
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  • I CAN'T GET SAVED.
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  • THERE'S NO NEED TO TRY.
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  • SHE PRAYED.
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  • AND JUST BEFORE I WALKED AWAY, SHE SAID,
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  • WAIT A MINUTE.
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  • THERE'S ONE MORE THING HE TOLD ME TO TELL YOU.
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  • HE TOLD ME TO TELL YOU IF YOU DON'T SURRENDER SOON,
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  • YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW INTO A TRAP THAT'S
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  • ALREADY SET AND YOU WILL NOT GET OUT.
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  • AND CHANCES ARE YOU'LL NEVER BE SAVED.
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  • THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.
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  • I WENT TO THE BUS THAT NIGHT, AND I DIDN'T
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  • DRINK, I DIDN'T DO ANY DRUGS.
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  • I GOT IN MY BUNK AND I PRAYED.
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  • I SAID GOD, IF YOU'RE REAL, IF HEAVEN IS REAL,
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  • IF EVERYTHING I ONCE BELIEVED AND THOUGHT WAS
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  • THE TRUTH, IF THAT'S TRUE, PLEASE HELP ME.
  • 00:08:11.280 --> 00:08:13.230
  • AND I WENT TO SLEEP.
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  • WHEN I WOKE UP IN THE MORNING STILL IN MY BUNK
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  • I HEARD A VOICE INSIDE OF ME, AND THAT VOICE SAID,
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  • ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE.
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  • HE HAD NEVER LEFT ME.
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  • I KNOW THAT NOW.
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  • AND I SAID, WILL YOU FORGIVE ME?
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  • AND IT WAS A WEIRD FEELING THAT I
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  • COULDN'T EXPRESS.
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  • HERE'S HOW I EXPRESSED IT FOR A LONG TIME, I ALWAYS
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  • SAID IT WAS LIKE AN ELEPHANT'S FOOT WAS
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  • ON MY CHEST.
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  • IT CAME OFF.
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  • IT WAS LIKE I HAD CHAINS THAT WERE BOUND,
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  • THEY FELL OFF.
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  • AND ALL DAY LONG I WAS WALKING AROUND CRYING.
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  • WE HAD DINNER ON THE GROUND.
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  • DO YOU KNOW WHAT DINNER ON THE GROUND IS?
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  • THAT'S WHEN WE USED TO HAVE CHICKEN AND ALL THAT
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  • STUFF AT CHURCH.
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  • - ALL THE GRANDMOTHERS KNOW.
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  • - IT WAS AT JIMMY, THE GOVERNOR'S PLACE, AND IT
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  • WAS -- THERE'S A CHURCH THERE NAMED AFTER HIM.
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  • HE BUILT IT I THINK.
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  • BUT ANYWAY, THEY HAD IT EVERY YEAR THERE AND
  • 00:09:07.020 --> 00:09:09.120
  • DINNER ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:09:09.140 --> 00:09:10.230
  • SO THERE WAS A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE.
  • 00:09:10.250 --> 00:09:12.250
  • I HAD THE NUMBER ONE SONG, AND I'M WALKING
  • 00:09:12.270 --> 00:09:15.090
  • AROUND CRYING, AND THEY SAID, WHAT'S WRONG?
  • 00:09:15.110 --> 00:09:16.290
  • YOU OKAY?
  • 00:09:17.010 --> 00:09:18.070
  • I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
  • 00:09:18.090 --> 00:09:20.010
  • I JUST GOT SAVED, BUT HOW DO I TELL THEM I JUST GOT
  • 00:09:20.030 --> 00:09:22.270
  • SAVED WHEN I'M -- - SINGING GOSPEL MUSIC.
  • 00:09:22.290 --> 00:09:24.280
  • - AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, HOW COULD
  • 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.080
  • YOU WRITE SONGS AND SING AND NOT LIVE RIGHT?
  • 00:09:28.100 --> 00:09:31.130
  • WELL, IT'S REAL EASY, THE SAME WAY YOU CAN DO WHAT
  • 00:09:31.150 --> 00:09:33.210
  • YOU DO AND NOT LIVE RIGHT.
  • 00:09:33.230 --> 00:09:35.090
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:35.110 --> 00:09:37.090
  • - GOOD ANSWER.
  • 00:09:37.110 --> 00:09:40.000
  • - SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, I GOT HOME.
  • 00:09:40.020 --> 00:09:42.210
  • OF COURSE I CALLED EDITH AND I GOT IN MY CAR AND
  • 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:46.220
  • STARTED TO TOWN -INSTEAD OF GOING TO TOWN I WENT
  • 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.030
  • STRAIGHT TO THE DRUG DEALER.
  • 00:09:49.050 --> 00:09:51.180
  • 2 DAYS, AND AFTER THAT I HAD A BOTTLE OF PILLS.
  • 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.080
  • I SAID THAT'S IT.
  • 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:56.180
  • I TRIED AGAIN.
  • 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.140
  • IT WON'T WORK, AND GO AHEAD AND TAKE THESE PILLS.
  • 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:00.060
  • JUST BEFORE I TOOK THEM, I CALLED THIS GUY IN
  • 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.070
  • NORTH CAROLINA, HAROLD BEAN.
  • 00:10:02.090 --> 00:10:04.090
  • WE USED TO SING TOGETHER.
  • 00:10:04.110 --> 00:10:06.170
  • WE HAD DONE A LOT OF BAD STUFF.
  • 00:10:06.190 --> 00:10:07.230
  • HE GAVE HIS HEART TO CHRIST A YEAR BEFORE
  • 00:10:07.250 --> 00:10:09.020
  • THEN, AND I HADN'T TALKED TO HIM IN A YEAR, AND I
  • 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:12.150
  • CALLED HIM, I SAID HAROLD, I GAVE MY HEART
  • 00:10:12.170 --> 00:10:14.270
  • TO JESUS SUNDAY.
  • 00:10:14.290 --> 00:10:16.020
  • HE SAID, OH PRAISE GOD!
  • 00:10:16.040 --> 00:10:17.030
  • I'M SO GLAD.
  • 00:10:17.050 --> 00:10:17.260
  • I SAID, WAIT A MINUTE.
  • 00:10:17.280 --> 00:10:18.160
  • WAIT A MINUTE.
  • 00:10:18.180 --> 00:10:19.080
  • I'M HIGH RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:10:19.100 --> 00:10:22.050
  • I SAID, I KNOW -- - ME AND JESUS.
  • 00:10:22.070 --> 00:10:24.210
  • - I'M IN IT BUT I CAN'T LIVE IT.
  • 00:10:24.230 --> 00:10:26.210
  • I DON'T KNOW TO DO.
  • 00:10:26.230 --> 00:10:29.070
  • I SAID, I'M CALLING YOU TO PRAY FOR ME.
  • 00:10:29.090 --> 00:10:30.290
  • HE SAID THE WOMEN ARE DOWN AT THE
  • 00:10:31.010 --> 00:10:32.140
  • CHURCH PRAYING.
  • 00:10:32.160 --> 00:10:33.230
  • IT WAS TUESDAY AFTERNOON.
  • 00:10:33.250 --> 00:10:35.040
  • HE SAID, THEY'RE DOWN AT THE CHURCH RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:10:35.060 --> 00:10:36.120
  • HE SAID LET ME CALL THEM AND I'LL
  • 00:10:36.140 --> 00:10:38.080
  • CALL YOU RIGHT BACK.
  • 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:40.050
  • HE SAID DON'T TAKE THEM.
  • 00:10:40.070 --> 00:10:42.210
  • I SAID ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR YOU TO CALL.
  • 00:10:42.230 --> 00:10:43.280
  • HE CALLED ME BACK, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT, AND
  • 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.200
  • HE SAID YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POWER OVER ALCOHOL
  • 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:51.000
  • AND DRUGS.
  • 00:10:51.020 --> 00:10:52.070
  • YOU CAN'T MESS WITH THAT.
  • 00:10:52.090 --> 00:10:53.290
  • YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POWER OVER THE DEVIL.
  • 00:10:54.010 --> 00:10:55.240
  • YOU CAN'T MESS WITH HIM.
  • 00:10:55.260 --> 00:10:57.010
  • HE'S DEFEATED.
  • 00:10:57.030 --> 00:10:58.080
  • ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS TURN IT OVER TO JESUS, ASK FOR
  • 00:10:58.100 --> 00:10:59.130
  • THE BLOOD, AND HE DID.
  • 00:10:59.150 --> 00:11:01.060
  • AND I WAS DELIVERED.
  • 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.270
  • I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU I NEVER FAILED AGAIN, BUT
  • 00:11:02.290 --> 00:11:05.230
  • THERE'S NO NEED TO GO THERE.
  • 00:11:05.250 --> 00:11:08.140
  • - GET UP.
  • 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:10.140
  • - GET UP AND GET MOVING, SO I DID.
  • 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:12.040
  • AND EVERYBODY IN THAT GROUP, THE BLUE RIDGE
  • 00:11:12.060 --> 00:11:14.040
  • BEFORE I LEFT, THERE WAS ONLY 2 OUT OF THE 11 THAT
  • 00:11:14.060 --> 00:11:16.150
  • HAD NOT BECOME A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:11:16.170 --> 00:11:19.160
  • ONE OF THEM HAS -ALL OF THEM HAVE NOW.
  • 00:11:19.180 --> 00:11:22.030
  • THEY ALL GOT SAVED.
  • 00:11:22.050 --> 00:11:24.130
  • I DIDN'T TRY.
  • 00:11:24.150 --> 00:11:26.050
  • THEY JUST SAW A NEW PERSON, TRANSFORMED,
  • 00:11:26.070 --> 00:11:28.060
  • FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
  • 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:29.200
  • I MEAN, IT JUST GOES ON AND THE STORY
  • 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:31.090
  • THAT HAPPENED.
  • 00:11:31.110 --> 00:11:32.200
  • SO IT CAME TIME.
  • 00:11:32.220 --> 00:11:35.120
  • NOW WAS THE TIME TO GO, AND SO I QUIT.
  • 00:11:35.140 --> 00:11:38.020
  • ALL I KNEW WAS I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE
  • 00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:41.200
  • HERE --THIS WAS MY DECISION.
  • 00:11:41.220 --> 00:11:46.060
  • I'M NEVER AGAIN GOING TO CHARGE FOR MY TALENT.
  • 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.290
  • I WAS GETTING $1500 A DAY THEN.
  • 00:11:50.010 --> 00:11:53.000
  • THAT WAS 50 YEARS AGO, 45.
  • 00:11:53.020 --> 00:11:55.260
  • THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY THEN.
  • 00:11:55.280 --> 00:11:57.290
  • A LOT OF MONEY NOW.
  • 00:11:58.010 --> 00:11:59.180
  • - HE'D BRING IT HOME, WE'D PUT IT ALL OVER
  • 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.260
  • THE BED.
  • 00:12:01.280 --> 00:12:03.100
  • LOOK AT IT.
  • 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.110
  • - I CAME HOME.
  • 00:12:04.130 --> 00:12:06.000
  • THERE WERE $100 BILLS.
  • 00:12:06.020 --> 00:12:06.180
  • COME HERE!
  • 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.060
  • - AND WE'D SIT THERE AND SMOOCH ON IT.
  • 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:12:09.250 --> 00:12:12.020
  • - HONEY!
  • 00:12:12.040 --> 00:12:13.180
  • - NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE.
  • 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:14.250
  • - CALL YOUR MAMA AND TELL HER TUNE IN.
  • 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:17.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.120
  • - SO ANYWAY, HERE'S HOW IT CAME -- LET'S GET TO TBN.
  • 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:24.140
  • I STARTED -I GOT CARL MORRIS.
  • 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:27.220
  • HE WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.040
  • HE PLAYED THE PIANO.
  • 00:12:29.060 --> 00:12:30.170
  • IT WAS JUST ME AND HIM.
  • 00:12:30.190 --> 00:12:32.020
  • I WAS 30, AND I WAS GOING TO CHURCHES FOR AN
  • 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:34.100
  • OFFERING, WHATEVER THEY GAVE ME.
  • 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:37.230
  • NO -THEY DIDN'T PAY NOTHING.
  • 00:12:37.250 --> 00:12:40.120
  • I JUST WANTED TO SEE PEOPLE COME TO CHRIST.
  • 00:12:40.140 --> 00:12:43.190
  • I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, AND YOU
  • 00:12:43.210 --> 00:12:46.050
  • KNOW, THERE WERE TEN PEOPLE A NIGHT, 20 PEOPLE
  • 00:12:46.070 --> 00:12:48.020
  • GETTING SAVED, AND SOME NIGHTS A FEW MORE AND I'M
  • 00:12:48.040 --> 00:12:49.210
  • GOING -AND I WAS PRAYING.
  • 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:51.170
  • THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
  • 00:12:51.190 --> 00:12:52.270
  • WE WERE LIVING IN SPARTANBURG, SOUTH
  • 00:12:52.290 --> 00:12:54.280
  • CAROLINA, AND I WAS LYING ON THE FLOOR.
  • 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.170
  • 3 O'CLOCK.
  • 00:12:56.190 --> 00:12:58.020
  • AND I SAID GOD -NOW, THE CHURCH I WAS RAISED IN
  • 00:12:58.040 --> 00:13:01.200
  • TAUGHT THAT TELEVISION WAS OF THE DEVIL.
  • 00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:04.060
  • WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE WERE TAUGHT.
  • 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.140
  • - THAT'S IT.
  • 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:10.150
  • - AND THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE BODY OF
  • 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:12.210
  • CHRIST, IN CHURCHES THAT ARE LOST.
  • 00:13:12.230 --> 00:13:15.020
  • I DON'T MEAN GOING TO HELL.
  • 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:17.170
  • THEIR LOST.
  • 00:13:17.190 --> 00:13:19.030
  • THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE.
  • 00:13:19.050 --> 00:13:22.090
  • THEY DON'T KNOW THE FREEDOM THEY HAVE.
  • 00:13:22.110 --> 00:13:24.200
  • THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GET SAVED BY
  • 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:26.270
  • GETTING PERFECT.
  • 00:13:26.290 --> 00:13:28.270
  • ONE OF MY FAVORITE SAYINGS NOW IS THIS, I'M
  • 00:13:28.290 --> 00:13:34.200
  • AN IMPERFECT MAN WITH A PERFECT GOD.
  • 00:13:34.220 --> 00:13:36.050
  • - YES.
  • 00:13:36.070 --> 00:13:39.030
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:13:39.050 --> 00:13:41.030
  • - IMPERFECT MAN WITH A PERFECT GOD.
  • 00:13:41.050 --> 00:13:42.190
  • NOW, I'M A LOT MORE PERFECT THAN WHAT I WAS.
  • 00:13:42.210 --> 00:13:44.050
  • AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'M REAL CLOSE TO
  • 00:13:44.070 --> 00:13:45.240
  • BEING PERFECT.
  • 00:13:45.260 --> 00:13:46.290
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:47.010 --> 00:13:48.210
  • - SHE'S SITTING RIGHT HERE, AND I'M GLAD SHE
  • 00:13:48.230 --> 00:13:50.260
  • STAYED WITH ME.
  • 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:53.090
  • - LET ME JUMP IN.
  • 00:13:53.110 --> 00:13:54.190
  • - GO AHEAD.
  • 00:13:54.210 --> 00:13:56.130
  • - LET ME JUST SAY I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE
  • 00:13:56.150 --> 00:13:58.080
  • YOU'RE TELLING THE STORY AND PREACHING AND SLIDING
  • 00:13:58.100 --> 00:14:00.260
  • IN STORIES, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS, BUT I
  • 00:14:00.280 --> 00:14:03.140
  • JUST WANT TO SAY IF YOU JUST TUNED IN WE'RE HERE
  • 00:14:03.160 --> 00:14:07.050
  • IN NASHVILLE, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL -- THIS IS KIND
  • 00:14:07.070 --> 00:14:09.250
  • OF LIKE A SCRAP BOOKING PRAISE THE LORD PROGRAM.
  • 00:14:09.270 --> 00:14:12.090
  • I'VE KNOWN THESE FOLKS LONGER THAN I HAVEN'T
  • 00:14:12.110 --> 00:14:14.200
  • KNOWN THEM, AND THEY GREW UP AND THEY WERE
  • 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:17.110
  • ALWAYS AROUND.
  • 00:14:17.130 --> 00:14:19.180
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP, AND THEIR BOYS.
  • 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:22.060
  • - YOU USED TO COME TO OUR HOUSE AND EAT HOT DOGS.
  • 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.210
  • - JUST FAMILY.
  • 00:14:24.230 --> 00:14:26.000
  • - FAMILY MEMBERS.
  • 00:14:26.020 --> 00:14:27.090
  • - OUR WEDDING.
  • 00:14:27.110 --> 00:14:29.090
  • ON OUR HONEYMOON, THEY CAME ON OUR HONEYMOON
  • 00:14:29.110 --> 00:14:32.020
  • WITH US.
  • 00:14:32.040 --> 00:14:33.280
  • WE'VE DONE ALL KINDS OF STUFF TOGETHER.
  • 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.020
  • I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:14:36.040 --> 00:14:37.270
  • - I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK LAVERNE AT THE END
  • 00:14:37.290 --> 00:14:41.080
  • OF THIS PROGRAM, I WANT TO ASK YOU -THERE'S A
  • 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:44.060
  • THEME EMERGING AND IT'S REALLY LEGALISM AND GRACE
  • 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.160
  • I THINK, AND SO YOU KNOW, YOU CAME FROM A LEGALISM
  • 00:14:46.180 --> 00:14:51.050
  • AND MAYBE WE ALL DID IN THE 70'S AND 80'S.
  • 00:14:51.070 --> 00:14:55.220
  • - WE DID.
  • 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:57.270
  • - AND IT WAS JUST ROUGH, AND THEN SOMEHOW IT FEELS
  • 00:14:57.290 --> 00:15:02.230
  • LIKE SOME NEW DOCTRINE CAME ALONG, BUT IT'S THE
  • 00:15:02.250 --> 00:15:05.250
  • OLDEST DOCTRINE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT GRACE. AND
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:08.270
  • I LOVE EVEN THE WAY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT,
  • 00:15:08.290 --> 00:15:12.290
  • AND IT IS A THEMATIC ELEMENT OF WHAT LAURIE
  • 00:15:13.010 --> 00:15:15.240
  • AND I BELIEVE.
  • 00:15:15.260 --> 00:15:17.060
  • SO I WANT YOU TO TOUCH ON THAT MAYBE AGAIN AT THE
  • 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.050
  • END OF THE PROGRAM.
  • 00:15:19.070 --> 00:15:20.220
  • LET'S NOT FORGET TO KIND OF JUST WRAP THAT UP, AND
  • 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.220
  • I WANT YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DO NATURALLY AND I WANT
  • 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.230
  • YOU TO HAVE PEOPLE ACCEPT JESUS AND DO THAT.
  • 00:15:24.250 --> 00:15:27.220
  • BUT I'M NOT WANT TO GUIDE MUCH.
  • 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:29.180
  • - NO, I LOVE IT.
  • 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.190
  • - BUT I DO WANT TO RUN THIS ROLL IN.
  • 00:15:31.210 --> 00:15:33.180
  • - I WANT YOU TO GUIDE ME.
  • 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.140
  • - NO I DON'T WANT TO GUIDE YOU.
  • 00:15:35.160 --> 00:15:36.180
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:37.270
  • I CAN FANTASIZE A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:15:37.290 --> 00:15:39.050
  • GO AHEAD.
  • 00:15:39.070 --> 00:15:40.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:15:40.190 --> 00:15:42.030
  • - I CAN PRETEND I'M IN CHARGE OVER HERE.
  • 00:15:42.050 --> 00:15:43.110
  • OKAY.
  • 00:15:43.130 --> 00:15:45.050
  • LET'S RUN THE LITTLE CLIP THAT SHOWS JUST HOW MUCH
  • 00:15:45.070 --> 00:15:46.220
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH WERE A PART OF THE EARLY DAYS OF
  • 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.150
  • THIS MINISTRY RIGHT HERE AT TBN.
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:50.120
  • WATCH THIS.
  • 00:15:50.140 --> 00:15:52.250
  • - YOU'RE A PART OF THE WORLD LARGEST AND
  • 00:15:52.270 --> 00:15:54.130
  • PRAYER AND PRAISE GATHERING.
  • 00:15:54.150 --> 00:15:55.230
  • JOINING US FROM THE INTERNATIONAL PRODUCTION
  • 00:15:55.250 --> 00:15:57.180
  • CENTER IN DALLAS FORTH WORTH METROPLEX,
  • 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.120
  • RECORDING ARTIST AND A MUSICAL EVANGELIST
  • 00:15:59.140 --> 00:16:01.010
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP.
  • 00:16:01.030 --> 00:16:02.090
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:16:02.110 --> 00:16:09.090
  • - PAUL CROUCH: WHY DON'T WE GET UNDER WAY
  • 00:16:09.110 --> 00:16:10.200
  • MUSICALLY TONIGHT?
  • 00:16:10.220 --> 00:16:11.290
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP.
  • 00:16:12.010 --> 00:16:14.070
  • HAD MY SHARE OF UPS AND DOWNS...
  • 00:16:14.090 --> 00:16:16.120
  • BUT VICTORY IS MINE TODAY...
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:19.110
  • AND I'LL NOT BE DEFEATED ANYMORE...
  • 00:16:19.130 --> 00:16:24.260
  • SINCE I KNOW THE POWER THAT I HAVE...
  • 00:16:24.280 --> 00:16:27.170
  • IN JESUS NAME...
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:30.100
  • NOT GONNA DEFEATED ANYMORE...
  • 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:35.230
  • - WHY DON'T YOU JUST PUT YOUR TRUST IN HIM?
  • 00:16:35.250 --> 00:16:38.200
  • LOOK TO GOD ALMIGHTY, AND YOU CAN DO THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:16:38.220 --> 00:16:41.080
  • OF JESUS.
  • 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:44.180
  • - LAVERNE, THE CALLS ARE ARE STILL COMING IN ON
  • 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.010
  • THE PHONE AS THEY REPLAYED ON THIS NETWORK
  • 00:16:47.030 --> 00:16:48.230
  • THIS AFTERNOON.
  • 00:16:48.250 --> 00:16:51.060
  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT, BUT
  • 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.180
  • I TELL YOU SOMEBODY SAID HEAVEN CAME DOWN AND
  • 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.000
  • KISSED EARTH AND WE GOT CAUGHT IN A SMACK.
  • 00:16:56.020 --> 00:16:58.120
  • I'M LIVING MY FAITH...
  • 00:16:58.140 --> 00:17:03.150
  • IN JESUS OF LOVE...
  • 00:17:03.170 --> 00:17:07.180
  • AND I THANK GOD THAT HE SENT YOUR FAMILY TO TBN,
  • 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.140
  • TO PAUL AND JAN.
  • 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.040
  • I'M SO THANKFUL.
  • 00:17:12.060 --> 00:17:14.040
  • I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT WE CAN BOW
  • 00:17:14.060 --> 00:17:16.060
  • AT HIS FEET AND JUST WORSHIP HIM FOREVER AND
  • 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:18.210
  • EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER.
  • 00:17:18.230 --> 00:17:21.050
  • ALL GLORY AND ALL HONOR AND PRAISE AND ALL POWER
  • 00:17:21.070 --> 00:17:24.210
  • BELONGS TO HIM.
  • 00:17:24.230 --> 00:17:26.260
  • WE'LL MAYBE NEVER MEET AGAIN HERE, BUT WE HAVE
  • 00:17:26.280 --> 00:17:30.250
  • THE PROMISE THAT ONE DAY WE'LL MEET.
  • 00:17:30.270 --> 00:17:32.210
  • GIVE HIM MY PRAISE...
  • 00:17:32.230 --> 00:17:36.090
  • AS WE GO ALONG...
  • 00:17:36.110 --> 00:17:38.250
  • WE GO ALONG...
  • 00:17:38.270 --> 00:17:43.020
  • - OH, YES.
  • 00:17:43.040 --> 00:17:45.010
  • YES, YES.
  • 00:17:45.030 --> 00:17:46.290
  • - CRYING MY MAKE UP OFF.
  • 00:17:47.010 --> 00:17:48.290
  • - AMAZING.
  • 00:17:49.010 --> 00:17:50.160
  • THAT IS SO FUN.
  • 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:52.240
  • WE'RE TELLING THE STORY OF GETTING CONNECTED TO
  • 00:17:52.260 --> 00:17:54.090
  • US IN THE EARLY DAYS IN THE 70'S OF TBN.
  • 00:17:54.110 --> 00:17:56.080
  • - WELL, I GOT TO TBN JUST BEFORE THAT.
  • 00:17:56.100 --> 00:18:03.070
  • I WAS PRAYING, SEEKING GOD BECAUSE HE SAID GO
  • 00:18:03.090 --> 00:18:06.150
  • INTO ALL THE WORLD, PREACH THE GOSPEL, AND I
  • 00:18:06.170 --> 00:18:08.220
  • SAID LORD, I'M WILLING BUT I CAN'T GO
  • 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.100
  • FAST ENOUGH.
  • 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:12.270
  • I CAN'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH.
  • 00:18:12.290 --> 00:18:14.100
  • I DON'T SEE ANYWAY I COULD DO IT. HOW?
  • 00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:16.210
  • AND HE SAID, TELEVISION.
  • 00:18:16.230 --> 00:18:20.100
  • IT SCARED ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THE DEVIL
  • 00:18:20.120 --> 00:18:23.220
  • AT FIRST BECAUSE I WAS TAUGHT WHAT I WAS TAUGHT.
  • 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.190
  • SO ANYWAY, I GOT UP OFF THE FLOOR, I'D BEEN
  • 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:29.090
  • PRAYING, AND I REALIZE THAT'S IT.
  • 00:18:29.110 --> 00:18:31.230
  • IF I WAS IN FRONT OF A CAMERA RIGHT NOW, I COULD
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:34.060
  • TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT JESUS IN THIS CITY
  • 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:36.110
  • AT ONE TIME.
  • 00:18:36.130 --> 00:18:38.080
  • THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT NETWORKS, SO WE
  • 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:41.180
  • WENT STRAIGHT TO CBN.
  • 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.190
  • STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED THE HAPPY HOUR.
  • 00:18:44.210 --> 00:18:47.270
  • - HAPPY HOUR.
  • 00:18:47.290 --> 00:18:49.270
  • - SO THEY'D LOOK IN THE TV GUIDE, TUNE IN THINK I
  • 00:18:49.290 --> 00:18:51.290
  • WAS TALKING DRINKING AND GET SAVED.
  • 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:53.270
  • THAT'S ALL I CARED ABOUT IT.
  • 00:18:53.290 --> 00:18:55.200
  • - I WAS A BACKGROUND DUO SINGER.
  • 00:18:55.220 --> 00:18:57.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:57.260 --> 00:19:00.120
  • - AND THEN IT WAS IN ATLANTA, DALLAS, BIG
  • 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:02.080
  • CITIES SO I BOUGHT TIME, AND IN NO TIME I HAD
  • 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:04.000
  • $20.000 WORTH OF BILLS ON MY DESK AND NO MONEY.
  • 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:12.130
  • BECAUSE I WASN'T ASKING FOR MONEY.
  • 00:19:12.150 --> 00:19:14.090
  • NOBODY WAYS SUPPORTING.
  • 00:19:14.110 --> 00:19:15.200
  • I JUST WANTED TO WIN SOULS.
  • 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:17.060
  • - A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING SAVED.
  • 00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:18.240
  • - AND SO I WAS 30 DAYS BEHIND, AND WHEN WE WENT
  • 00:19:18.260 --> 00:19:20.210
  • I SAID I'M QUITTING.
  • 00:19:20.230 --> 00:19:22.090
  • I CAN'T PAY.
  • 00:19:22.110 --> 00:19:24.170
  • I'M GONNA PAY YOU, I'M GONNA QUIT BECAUSE I'M
  • 00:19:24.190 --> 00:19:27.040
  • NOT GETTING ANY DEEPER.
  • 00:19:27.060 --> 00:19:29.020
  • AND THEY CALLED ME IN AND SAID LOOK, YOU CAN'T.
  • 00:19:29.040 --> 00:19:33.230
  • YOU'RE ANOINTED.
  • 00:19:33.250 --> 00:19:35.130
  • YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON TV.
  • 00:19:35.150 --> 00:19:37.080
  • I SAID WELL, I BELIEVE THAT TOO, BUT IT'S
  • 00:19:37.100 --> 00:19:38.160
  • NOT WORKING.
  • 00:19:38.180 --> 00:19:40.100
  • AND THEY SAID YOU'RE THE BEST CUSTOMER WE GOT.
  • 00:19:40.120 --> 00:19:42.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:42.250 --> 00:19:45.040
  • SOME OF THEM ARE SIX MONTHS BEHIND.
  • 00:19:45.060 --> 00:19:47.110
  • I SAID, YOU'RE KIDDING.
  • 00:19:47.130 --> 00:19:49.150
  • I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT. I EITHER PAY ON TIME --
  • 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:51.030
  • - WHO WAS SIX MONTHS BEHIND?
  • 00:19:51.050 --> 00:19:53.060
  • - I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
  • 00:19:53.080 --> 00:19:54.270
  • COME ON.
  • 00:19:54.290 --> 00:19:56.030
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:57.080
  • - SO -- - SOME OF THEM ARE STILL LIVING.
  • 00:19:57.100 --> 00:19:59.060
  • - NO, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE.
  • 00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:02.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:04.090
  • I DON'T THINK THEY ARE.
  • 00:20:04.110 --> 00:20:06.130
  • I THINK THEY'RE ALL GONE.
  • 00:20:06.150 --> 00:20:07.280
  • - MOST THE PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY
  • 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.030
  • ARE GONE.
  • 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:10.150
  • - SO ANYWAY, I QUIT.
  • 00:20:10.170 --> 00:20:12.000
  • I FELT LIKE A FAILURE.
  • 00:20:12.020 --> 00:20:13.190
  • THE LORD GAVE ME THE MONEY.
  • 00:20:13.210 --> 00:20:15.240
  • I PAID THEM WHAT I OWED THEM, AND I FELT
  • 00:20:15.260 --> 00:20:17.030
  • LIKE A LOSER.
  • 00:20:17.050 --> 00:20:18.140
  • AND I WAS IN THE BACK OF THE BUS ONE WAY.
  • 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:19.270
  • WAS ON THE WAY TO A LITTLE CHURCH
  • 00:20:19.290 --> 00:20:21.060
  • IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
  • 00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:22.250
  • I SAID GOD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:20:22.270 --> 00:20:24.060
  • YOU TOLD ME TV.
  • 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:25.130
  • I TRIED.
  • 00:20:25.150 --> 00:20:26.230
  • IT AIN'T WORKING.
  • 00:20:26.250 --> 00:20:28.170
  • AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:20:28.190 --> 00:20:31.260
  • AND I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
  • 00:20:31.280 --> 00:20:33.200
  • I SAID, WHAT?
  • 00:20:33.220 --> 00:20:35.270
  • HE SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
  • 00:20:35.290 --> 00:20:39.110
  • I SAID, THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
  • 00:20:39.130 --> 00:20:41.210
  • AND THEN HE SAID TO ME, WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR 2
  • 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:44.140
  • BOYS, ROB AND TERRY, WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO TO
  • 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.240
  • SHOW THEY LOVE YOU?
  • 00:20:46.260 --> 00:20:48.280
  • DO YOU WANT THEM TO BUY YOU A MILLION DOLLAR
  • 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.090
  • HOUSE AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE WORK 24 HOURS A DAY,
  • 00:20:51.110 --> 00:20:53.190
  • 7 DAYS A WEEK TO KEEP YOU IN THAT HOUSE SO YOU'LL
  • 00:20:53.210 --> 00:20:55.210
  • KNOW THEY LOVE YOU?
  • 00:20:55.230 --> 00:20:57.080
  • I SAID, NO!
  • 00:20:57.100 --> 00:20:59.000
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?
  • 00:20:59.020 --> 00:21:00.290
  • AND SO I HAD TO FACE THAT.
  • 00:21:01.010 --> 00:21:03.070
  • WHAT DO I WANT MY SONS TO DO?
  • 00:21:03.090 --> 00:21:05.000
  • I WANT THEM TO GET IN MY LAP, THIS WAS BEFORE
  • 00:21:05.020 --> 00:21:07.280
  • THEY GREW UP.
  • 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.210
  • I'LL LEAVE THAT RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:12.080
  • - THAT'S A LOT OF KIDS, YEAH.
  • 00:21:12.100 --> 00:21:14.020
  • - I SAID I JUST WANT THEM TO GET IN MY LAP AND
  • 00:21:14.040 --> 00:21:16.210
  • KISS ME AND HUG ME AND SAY DADDY, I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:18.190
  • HE SAID, THAT'S ALL I WANT YOU TO DO.
  • 00:21:18.210 --> 00:21:21.000
  • SO I STARTED TRYING TO LOVE ON HIM.
  • 00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:24.130
  • JOHN OWESWORTHY WHO I HAD KNOWN IN BIBLE SCHOOL HAD
  • 00:21:24.150 --> 00:21:29.090
  • BEEN BUGGING ME CONSTANTLY, YOU GOTTA
  • 00:21:29.110 --> 00:21:34.020
  • COME TO CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:21:34.040 --> 00:21:36.030
  • THERE'S PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT HAVE THE SAME DESIRE
  • 00:21:36.050 --> 00:21:38.060
  • YOU DO.
  • 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:39.290
  • I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
  • 00:21:40.010 --> 00:21:41.170
  • HE SAID THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT
  • 00:21:41.190 --> 00:21:43.020
  • WINNING SOULS.
  • 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:44.230
  • THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THAT.
  • 00:21:44.250 --> 00:21:47.040
  • THEY WORK ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:21:47.060 --> 00:21:48.120
  • THEY GOT A STATION.
  • 00:21:48.140 --> 00:21:49.260
  • I SAID, JOHN, THERE'S ENOUGH SINNERS HERE IN
  • 00:21:49.280 --> 00:21:51.160
  • SOUTH CAROLINA AND ON THE EAST COAST.
  • 00:21:51.180 --> 00:21:53.140
  • I'M NOT GOING OUT THERE.
  • 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.100
  • HE SAID, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET YOU TO COME
  • 00:21:55.120 --> 00:21:57.090
  • BECAUSE TBN DIDN'T PAY ANYTHING SO I HAD TO MAKE
  • 00:21:57.110 --> 00:22:00.020
  • MY WAY.
  • 00:22:00.040 --> 00:22:01.250
  • - STILL DON'T, BY THE WAY.
  • 00:22:01.270 --> 00:22:03.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:03.250 --> 00:22:07.200
  • - BLESS THEM LORD AND CHANGE ME.
  • 00:22:07.220 --> 00:22:09.270
  • BLESS THEM LORD AND CHANGE ME.
  • 00:22:09.290 --> 00:22:12.050
  • THAT'S MY PRAYER.
  • 00:22:12.070 --> 00:22:13.160
  • NOW CHANGE ME.
  • 00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:15.280
  • ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:17.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:17.030 --> 00:22:18.220
  • SO I SAID ALL RIGHT, I SAID IF YOU'LL BOOK ME
  • 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:20.170
  • DATES GOING OUT THERE AND DATES COMING BACK, I'LL GO.
  • 00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:22.230
  • IT WAS AWESOME.
  • 00:22:22.250 --> 00:22:24.150
  • I SHARED MY STORY.
  • 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:27.050
  • PEOPLE GETTING SAVED.
  • 00:22:27.070 --> 00:22:29.110
  • - THESE OTHER CHURCHES -- - WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
  • 00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:32.290
  • - THAT JOHN BOOKED US IN THEY WERE ALL WHISPERING
  • 00:22:33.010 --> 00:22:35.140
  • IN EACH OTHER'S YEAR.
  • 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:37.080
  • AND WE WERE THINKING OH LORD, THEY'RE GONNA THROW
  • 00:22:37.100 --> 00:22:39.270
  • TOMATOES ANY MINUTE, AND THEY WERE ALL
  • 00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:43.000
  • INTERPRETING WHAT WE WERE SAYING.
  • 00:22:43.020 --> 00:22:45.090
  • - THEY DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.
  • 00:22:45.110 --> 00:22:47.140
  • - NOBODY SPOKE ENGLISH.
  • 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:50.040
  • - JOHN, YEAH, HE WANTED US TO COME TO CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:22:50.060 --> 00:22:52.160
  • SO YOUR DAD WAS THERE THURSDAY NIGHT, AND THEY
  • 00:22:52.180 --> 00:22:57.270
  • TURNED ME LOOSE AGAIN, AND IT HAPPENED AGAIN.
  • 00:22:57.290 --> 00:23:00.090
  • AND WHEN THAT WAS OVER, HE WANTED TO KNOW IF WE'D
  • 00:23:00.110 --> 00:23:03.010
  • BE WILLING TO COME ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND HOST A
  • 00:23:03.030 --> 00:23:05.290
  • PRAISE THE LORD PROGRAM.
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:09.230
  • THE PRAISE PROGRAM.
  • 00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:11.260
  • SURE.
  • 00:23:11.280 --> 00:23:13.100
  • THEY PAID OUR TICKET THERE, AND I SAID YEAH,
  • 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:15.190
  • WE'LL COME.
  • 00:23:15.210 --> 00:23:17.110
  • AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE'D BE INTERESTED IN
  • 00:23:17.130 --> 00:23:19.260
  • DOING A PROGRAM FOR THE NETWORK.
  • 00:23:19.280 --> 00:23:21.250
  • WE SAID SURE, YES.
  • 00:23:21.270 --> 00:23:23.090
  • SO THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
  • 00:23:23.110 --> 00:23:26.260
  • THE FIRST NIGHT THAT WE HOSTED -- I'LL NEVER FORGET IT.
  • 00:23:26.280 --> 00:23:30.290
  • EDITH AND I FLEW IN, AND I SAW ALL THOSE HOUSES
  • 00:23:31.010 --> 00:23:36.160
  • COMING INTO L.A. THAT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE
  • 00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:40.180
  • LITTLE PLACE IN NORTH CAROLINA I WAS RAISED,
  • 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.160
  • AND I STARTED CRYING REALIZING MAN, WE COULD
  • 00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:47.160
  • WIN THIS WHOLE PLACE TO JESUS IN ONE NIGHT.
  • 00:23:47.180 --> 00:23:50.210
  • I'M JUST WEEPING WITH THE POSSIBILITY, AND SO THAT
  • 00:23:50.230 --> 00:23:53.180
  • WAS THE BEGINNING OF OUR RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.250
  • AND THEY WANTED THE SAME THING WE DID, AND THAT
  • 00:23:56.270 --> 00:23:59.070
  • WAS TO EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET GET AN OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:23:59.090 --> 00:24:02.000
  • TO SAY YES TO JESUS.
  • 00:24:02.020 --> 00:24:04.200
  • - SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE POINTED OUT IS WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:24:04.220 --> 00:24:07.040
  • TALKING ABOUT IS THE STORY OF JUST WHEN IT
  • 00:24:07.060 --> 00:24:11.110
  • ABOUT IN WAS JUST LOS ANGELES, AND HAD JUST
  • 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:14.200
  • PIONEERED PHOENIX, ARIZONA, SO WE'RE TALKING
  • 00:24:14.220 --> 00:24:17.160
  • ABOUT BACK IN THE LATE 70'S.
  • 00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:20.020
  • AND YOU GUYS SHOWED UP, YOU WERE AN ANCHOR
  • 00:24:20.040 --> 00:24:24.270
  • HOSTING TENANT.
  • 00:24:24.290 --> 00:24:27.110
  • THE FIRST TIME HOSTING DID YOU LET YOUR GUEST
  • 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:29.230
  • SAY ANYTHING AT ALL?
  • 00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:32.050
  • - I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAD GUESTS.
  • 00:24:32.070 --> 00:24:34.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:36.270
  • - WHO CARES?
  • 00:24:36.290 --> 00:24:38.180
  • I'M ON, AND THERE'S A CAMERA.
  • 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.270
  • I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT JESUS.
  • 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:43.270
  • WHY ARE YOU HERE?
  • 00:24:43.290 --> 00:24:45.150
  • - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:24:45.170 --> 00:24:48.120
  • SO 1970'S, THE VERY BEGINNING, THE VISION OF
  • 00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:52.080
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
  • 00:24:52.100 --> 00:24:54.180
  • YOU WERE REALLY PIONEERING.
  • 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.290
  • YOU WERE HELPING PIONEER THAT WHOLE THING.
  • 00:24:57.010 --> 00:24:59.070
  • - OH, MY.
  • 00:24:59.090 --> 00:25:01.030
  • - AND YOU HAD A BURNING DESIRE TO
  • 00:25:01.050 --> 00:25:03.070
  • BASICALLY PREACH.
  • 00:25:03.090 --> 00:25:05.170
  • YOU WERE A SINGER, BUT YOU WERE CALLED TO GIVE
  • 00:25:05.190 --> 00:25:07.240
  • YOUR TESTIMONY AND PREACH.
  • 00:25:07.260 --> 00:25:09.180
  • IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
  • 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:14.170
  • I DON'T EVEN CARE HOW LONG YOU TAKE, BUT DO A
  • 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:16.270
  • VERSION OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO THAT WE CAN TRULY
  • 00:25:16.290 --> 00:25:20.080
  • SAY THAT FROM THE 70'S TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
  • 00:25:20.100 --> 00:25:26.010
  • GETTING CLOSE TO 2020 HERE, YOU REALIZE THAT?
  • 00:25:26.030 --> 00:25:28.210
  • 2020, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:31.040
  • AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING, THE
  • 00:25:31.060 --> 00:25:35.060
  • THAT THE SAME FOUNDATION IS UNDERNEATH THIS
  • 00:25:35.080 --> 00:25:37.270
  • MINISTRY BECAUSE BASICALLY INSTEAD OF PAUL
  • 00:25:37.290 --> 00:25:41.250
  • AND JAN SITTING HERE, LAURIE AND I ARE
  • 00:25:41.270 --> 00:25:44.000
  • SITTING HERE.
  • 00:25:44.020 --> 00:25:45.240
  • WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING MY DAD USED TO SAY,
  • 00:25:45.260 --> 00:25:47.170
  • LAVERNE, TAKE YOUR LIBERTY AND LEAD PEOPLE
  • 00:25:47.190 --> 00:25:48.230
  • TO JESUS.
  • 00:25:48.250 --> 00:25:51.140
  • - BEFORE I DO THAT, I'M GONNA --
  • 00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.210
  • - SEE, HE NEVER JUST DOES WHATEVER YOU SAY.
  • 00:25:53.230 --> 00:25:55.170
  • HE'S ALWAYS IN CHARGE.
  • 00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.090
  • - NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:25:57.110 --> 00:25:59.130
  • YOU CAN MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
  • 00:25:59.150 --> 00:26:01.290
  • - HE'S GROWN UP.
  • 00:26:02.010 --> 00:26:03.280
  • - YOU SUGGESTED SOMETHING.
  • 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:05.290
  • I'M GONNA FOLLOW YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
  • 00:26:06.010 --> 00:26:08.030
  • THERE'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I KNOW
  • 00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:10.050
  • SOUNDS SO RIDICULOUS IN A WAY, BUT MANY TIMES I
  • 00:26:10.070 --> 00:26:15.170
  • SAID TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WORKED EVERY
  • 00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:19.240
  • NIGHT, IN TELEVISION WE WERE ON THE ROAD ALL THE
  • 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:23.030
  • TIME, AND BECAUSE WE WERE PACKING BUILDINGS
  • 00:26:23.050 --> 00:26:26.270
  • EVERYWHERE WE WENT THAT WAS BECAUSE OF TBN.
  • 00:26:26.290 --> 00:26:28.170
  • AND THE PLATFORM WE HAD.
  • 00:26:28.190 --> 00:26:32.170
  • SO I WOULD TELL THEM IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT US AND
  • 00:26:32.190 --> 00:26:38.120
  • TBN, SUPPORT TBN BECAUSE THEY WILL BE HERE LONG
  • 00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:45.130
  • AFTER I'M GONE.
  • 00:26:45.150 --> 00:26:48.020
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:26:48.040 --> 00:26:50.160
  • - WOW.
  • 00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:53.100
  • THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THEM.
  • 00:26:53.120 --> 00:26:54.120
  • I REGRET IT NOW.
  • 00:26:54.140 --> 00:26:55.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:26:55.290 --> 00:26:57.170
  • - YOU'RE SO BAD.
  • 00:26:57.190 --> 00:26:59.140
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.220
  • THAT'S A JOKE.
  • 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:03.170
  • THAT'S A JOKE.
  • 00:27:03.190 --> 00:27:05.030
  • I'M KIDDING.
  • 00:27:05.050 --> 00:27:06.120
  • THAT'S A JOKE. SO --
  • 00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:08.220
  • - I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU
  • 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.280
  • AND LAURIE ARE DOING HERE IN THIS GENERATION TIME.
  • 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.140
  • AND WE SEE THAT.
  • 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.080
  • AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:27:17.100 --> 00:27:20.030
  • GO ONTO DO THAT, BUT OUR HATS ARE OFF TO YOU, AND
  • 00:27:20.050 --> 00:27:22.260
  • WE PRAY FOR YOU.
  • 00:27:22.280 --> 00:27:25.100
  • - I'M SO PROUD OF YOU, AND THAT'S NOT FLATTERY.
  • 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:28.060
  • I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FROM YOU.
  • 00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:31.030
  • THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
  • 00:27:31.050 --> 00:27:33.070
  • I LOVE YOU.
  • 00:27:33.090 --> 00:27:34.180
  • - HE'S PROUD OF YOU.
  • 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.170
  • - I LOVE YOU, I CARE ABOUT YOU JUST LIKE YOU ARE.
  • 00:27:36.190 --> 00:27:38.110
  • YOU'RE JUST LIKE YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN EXCEPT YOU
  • 00:27:38.130 --> 00:27:41.090
  • HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND -BUT GOD DID NOT CALL YOU
  • 00:27:41.110 --> 00:27:47.220
  • TO DO SOMETHING HE DIDN'T ANOINT YOU TO DO, AND
  • 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.220
  • YOU'RE ANOINTED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
  • 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:53.020
  • NO, I COULDN'T DO IT.
  • 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:55.090
  • I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO DO IT.
  • 00:27:55.110 --> 00:27:57.060
  • YOU ARE.
  • 00:27:57.080 --> 00:27:59.160
  • AND YOU'RE DOING IT.
  • 00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:01.240
  • AND YES, YOU'RE REACHING THEM.
  • 00:28:01.260 --> 00:28:03.080
  • THE WHOLE WORLD.
  • 00:28:03.100 --> 00:28:05.130
  • BUT IT'S GOING TO BE GREATER THAN WHAT IT EVEN
  • 00:28:05.150 --> 00:28:08.040
  • IS IF WE WILL ALL STAY UNITED TOGETHER, STOP
  • 00:28:08.060 --> 00:28:11.020
  • TEARING APART.
  • 00:28:11.040 --> 00:28:13.050
  • STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS OR THAT OR THE NEGATIVE
  • 00:28:13.070 --> 00:28:15.020
  • STUFF BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO YOU. AND --
  • 00:28:15.040 --> 00:28:19.070
  • - AND FOCUS ON JESUS.
  • 00:28:19.090 --> 00:28:21.230
  • - AND I HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I AM THE
  • 00:28:21.250 --> 00:28:24.070
  • MOST FREE I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE BECAUSE I
  • 00:28:24.090 --> 00:28:26.240
  • REFUSE IT ALLOW ANYTHING TO HOLD ME CAPTIVE.
  • 00:28:26.260 --> 00:28:30.290
  • I'M FREE. AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN BE FREE TOO.
  • 00:28:31.010 --> 00:28:35.150
  • I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO THINK THERE'S NO HOPE.
  • 00:28:35.170 --> 00:28:38.130
  • HOW MANY TIMES THAT I HIT MY KNEE AND SAY GOD, IF
  • 00:28:38.150 --> 00:28:42.000
  • YOU'LL FORGIVE ME, I'LL NEVER DRINK AGAIN, I'LL
  • 00:28:42.020 --> 00:28:44.120
  • NEVER DO ANOTHER DRUG, I'LL NEVER DO THIS, I'LL
  • 00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:46.140
  • NEVER DO THAT, AND I MEANT IT AND I DID IT AGAIN.
  • 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:50.220
  • WHAT DO YOU DO?
  • 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.260
  • FIRST OF ALL, CAN'T DO IT-- HERE'S SOMETHING.
  • 00:28:52.280 --> 00:28:57.200
  • SOME TIME AGO I WAS PRAYING.
  • 00:28:57.220 --> 00:28:59.200
  • I SAID LORD, I'VE TRIED TO FIND A PERFECT MAN TO
  • 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:04.270
  • BE A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR ME, AND EVERYONE I THOUGHT
  • 00:29:04.290 --> 00:29:09.110
  • WAS THAT MAN, HE LET ME DOWN.
  • 00:29:09.130 --> 00:29:14.010
  • PLEASE PUT THE RIGHT PERSON IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:29:14.030 --> 00:29:16.180
  • THIS IS NOW.
  • 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.200
  • YEAH, I MAY BE OLDER BUT I'M STILL A LITTLE BOY
  • 00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:21.150
  • INSIDE IN A WAY.
  • 00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:25.090
  • AND HE SAID TO ME--NOW, I SAID EVERYONE HAS LET ME
  • 00:29:25.110 --> 00:29:31.210
  • DOWN THAT I PUT MY TRUST IN.
  • 00:29:31.230 --> 00:29:34.130
  • HE SAID WHY DON'T YOU BE THAT MAN?
  • 00:29:34.150 --> 00:29:37.240
  • - OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:29:37.260 --> 00:29:39.160
  • - AND I THOUGHT FOR JUST A MINUTE, OH, OKAY.
  • 00:29:39.180 --> 00:29:43.030
  • AND THEN IT HIT ME, I SAID I CAN'T. I CAN'T.
  • 00:29:43.050 --> 00:29:49.160
  • HE SAID I KNOW YOU CAN'T.
  • 00:29:49.180 --> 00:29:51.120
  • THAT'S THE REASON I CAME HERE WAS TO DO FOR YOU
  • 00:29:51.140 --> 00:29:55.250
  • WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. LOOK TO ME. COME TO ME.
  • 00:29:55.270 --> 00:30:01.230
  • GOD IS WHAT YOU WANT A RELATIONSHIP WITH, AND
  • 00:30:01.250 --> 00:30:05.140
  • I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH RIGHT NOW THAT NO
  • 00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.130
  • MATTER WHAT YOU'VE DONE, NOBODY COULD MEASURE UP
  • 00:30:09.150 --> 00:30:13.040
  • TO GOD'S STANDARD.
  • 00:30:13.060 --> 00:30:14.180
  • IF YOU'RE LOSING THE LAWS THAT HE GAVE THAT NO
  • 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.150
  • LONGER, YOU CAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:30:17.170 --> 00:30:21.100
  • AND IF YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING IT, YOU'RE THE KIND
  • 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:24.230
  • OF PERSON I DON'T WANT ANYTHING BECAUSE I KNOW,
  • 00:30:24.250 --> 00:30:27.060
  • I'VE BEEN THERE.
  • 00:30:27.080 --> 00:30:29.030
  • I GOT GOOD AND I STOPPED DRINKING AND DRUGGING AND
  • 00:30:29.050 --> 00:30:31.170
  • SMOKING AND CUSSING, MOST OF THE TIME.
  • 00:30:31.190 --> 00:30:37.010
  • WHY DON'T YOU LET GO OF THE STUFF THAT'S HOLDING
  • 00:30:37.030 --> 00:30:39.250
  • YOU CAPTIVE?
  • 00:30:39.270 --> 00:30:42.150
  • THE LORD TOLD ME SOME TIME AGO THE GREATEST
  • 00:30:42.170 --> 00:30:44.060
  • PROBLEM WITH MY CHILDREN NOW IS THEY ARE IN
  • 00:30:44.080 --> 00:30:47.280
  • CAPTIVITY TO UNGRATEFULNESS. ARE YOU GRATEFUL?
  • 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:55.060
  • YOU CAN'T HAVE GRATITUDE FOR ALL THAT
  • 00:30:55.080 --> 00:30:58.000
  • GOD HAS DONE FOR US.
  • 00:30:58.020 --> 00:30:59.250
  • HE PAID FOR EVERY SIN YOU EVER COMMITTED BEFORE
  • 00:30:59.270 --> 00:31:02.140
  • YOU EVER COMMITTED IT.
  • 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.110
  • WHY ARE YOU PLEADING WITH HIM TO FORGIVE YOU?
  • 00:31:04.130 --> 00:31:06.140
  • YOU'RE ALREADY FORGIVEN. ACCEPT IT.
  • 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.230
  • HOW DO I DO IT?
  • 00:31:09.250 --> 00:31:11.070
  • YOU DECLARE IT WITH YOUR MOUTH.
  • 00:31:11.090 --> 00:31:13.040
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL HIM EVERY SIN YOU'VE
  • 00:31:13.060 --> 00:31:14.220
  • COMMITTED, HE KNOWS AND HE'S ALREADY PAID FOR IT.
  • 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.220
  • JUST DECLARE IT WITH YOUR MOUTH.
  • 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.190
  • WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY IT RIGHT NOW, JESUS...
  • 00:31:19.210 --> 00:31:21.270
  • THAT'S ALL YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, JESUS...
  • 00:31:21.290 --> 00:31:23.290
  • I PUT MY TRUST IN YOU...
  • 00:31:24.010 --> 00:31:26.220
  • YOUR FINISHED WORK...
  • 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.250
  • I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALIVE...
  • 00:31:29.270 --> 00:31:32.000
  • I WANT THAT LIFE...
  • 00:31:32.020 --> 00:31:34.110
  • THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE.
  • 00:31:34.130 --> 00:31:38.190
  • YOU MEAN IT'S THAT SIMPLE? YES.
  • 00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:41.090
  • HE SUFFERED. WHY? WHY?
  • 00:31:41.110 --> 00:31:44.060
  • SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO.
  • 00:31:44.080 --> 00:31:46.070
  • DOES THAT MEAN NOTHING'S EVER GONNA HAPPEN?
  • 00:31:46.090 --> 00:31:48.080
  • PLEASE. IN THIS WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN?
  • 00:31:48.100 --> 00:31:52.080
  • IT WILL ATTACK YOU.
  • 00:31:52.100 --> 00:31:54.280
  • HOWEVER THERE'S ONE GREATER IN YOU NOW THAN
  • 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.070
  • WHAT'S IN THE WORLD, AND AS YOU GET TO KNOW HIM BY
  • 00:31:58.090 --> 00:32:01.240
  • BEING GRATEFUL FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE,
  • 00:32:01.260 --> 00:32:05.130
  • TELL IT, DECLARE IT.
  • 00:32:05.150 --> 00:32:08.010
  • WON'T YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND DIAL THE NUMBER
  • 00:32:08.030 --> 00:32:10.020
  • AND TELL THEM, TELL SOMEBODY, MAKE THAT
  • 00:32:10.040 --> 00:32:13.110
  • CONFESSION, I'M TRUSTING IN JESUS AND NOTHING ELSE.
  • 00:32:13.130 --> 00:32:17.260
  • HIS FINISHED WORK.
  • 00:32:17.280 --> 00:32:19.210
  • ISN'T THAT THE LAST THING HE SAID, IT'S FINISHED?
  • 00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.080
  • - UM, WOULD YOU JUST MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT
  • 00:32:23.100 --> 00:32:25.260
  • LEGALISM AND GRACE?
  • 00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:28.280
  • JUST A STATEMENT, JUST A-- YOU KNOW, WHY WAS IT SO
  • 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.240
  • PREVALENT BACK THEN AND WHY DOES GRACE FEEL NEW?
  • 00:32:33.260 --> 00:32:38.200
  • IT SHOULDN'T FEEL NEW.
  • 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:40.060
  • IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE REDISCOVERING SOMETHING,
  • 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:42.120
  • BUT I JUST WANT YOUR THOUGHTS ON LEGALISM THAT
  • 00:32:42.140 --> 00:32:45.040
  • REALLY ALMOST KILLED YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE LIVING IN
  • 00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:48.240
  • NOW WHICH WOULD BE MORE OF A FREEDOM OR AN
  • 00:32:48.260 --> 00:32:51.130
  • UNDERSTANDING. I JUST WANT A STATEMENT ON THAT.
  • 00:32:51.150 --> 00:32:53.160
  • AND THEN I WANT YOU TO TELL ME ABOUT INDIA.
  • 00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:58.110
  • WE'VE GOT A LITTLE ROLL-IN THAT WE'LL DO,
  • 00:32:58.130 --> 00:33:00.200
  • BUT FIRST JUST AN ANSWER ABOUT LEGALISM AND GRACE.
  • 00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:05.180
  • - THE LORD SAID TO ME SOME TIME AGO
  • 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.230
  • YOU'VE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE.
  • 00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:11.020
  • WELL, WHEN I READ IT, I THOUGHT WELL I STILL
  • 00:33:11.040 --> 00:33:14.250
  • WANT TO SEE PEOPLE SAVED.
  • 00:33:14.270 --> 00:33:16.080
  • HE SAID THAT WASN'T YOUR FIRST LOVE.
  • 00:33:16.100 --> 00:33:18.220
  • I THOUGHT IT WAS. IT WASN'T.
  • 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.240
  • HE TOOK ME ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN I WAS A
  • 00:33:21.260 --> 00:33:23.200
  • LITTLE BITTY BOY OUT IN THE YARD TALKING TO HIM,
  • 00:33:23.220 --> 00:33:28.170
  • JUST ME AND HIM.
  • 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:30.200
  • AND I WAS CRYING TELLING HIM I LOVED HIM AND HE
  • 00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:32.200
  • WAS TELLING ME HE LOVED ME, A LITTLE BOY.
  • 00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:35.200
  • I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOU.
  • 00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:37.260
  • AND IT WAS JUST US, JUST US.
  • 00:33:37.280 --> 00:33:40.160
  • MAYBE TEN YEARS OLD, ELEVEN, MAYBE TWELVE, I
  • 00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:44.280
  • DON'T KNOW THAT SUNDAY MORNING THE PREACHER SAID
  • 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.130
  • IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT A WOMAN TO LUST AFTER HER,
  • 00:33:49.150 --> 00:33:52.020
  • YOU'VE ALREADY COMMITTED ADULTERY.
  • 00:33:52.040 --> 00:33:54.150
  • OKAY, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
  • 00:33:54.170 --> 00:33:57.160
  • BUT MY LITTLE HEART THOUGHT OF COURSE THE
  • 00:33:57.180 --> 00:34:01.290
  • ENEMY GOES TO WORK NOW BECAUSE HE'S PREACHING
  • 00:34:02.010 --> 00:34:04.020
  • LEGALISM. IT'S TRUTH, IT'S STILL TRUTH IF I LOOK IN
  • 00:34:04.040 --> 00:34:09.090
  • LUST, OKAY, I'VE DONE IT.
  • 00:34:09.110 --> 00:34:12.030
  • THE POINT WAS I'VE ALWAYS DONE IT.
  • 00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:15.070
  • I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ADULTERY WAS BUT I LUSTED,
  • 00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:18.140
  • JUST A KID. AND THAT'S WHEN THE THOUGHT CAME
  • 00:34:18.160 --> 00:34:22.170
  • I'M GOING TO HELL.
  • 00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:26.180
  • OKAY, THAT'S THE LIE. I BELIEVED A LIE.
  • 00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:30.220
  • IT'S A GROWING PROCESS.
  • 00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:33.010
  • SO HERE I GO NOW ALWAYS STUMBLING AND FALLING AND
  • 00:34:33.030 --> 00:34:37.240
  • STARTING OVER, OKAY I'M GONNA BE PERFECT THIS
  • 00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:39.290
  • TIME, WHEN THE TRUTH IS I CAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:34:40.010 --> 00:34:43.110
  • I CANNOT DO IT.
  • 00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:45.250
  • I'VE TRIED MY BEST TO LIVE A PERFECT LIFE AND
  • 00:34:45.270 --> 00:34:49.230
  • I STILL MESS UP SOME.
  • 00:34:49.250 --> 00:34:52.050
  • I DON'T DO THE STUFF THAT I'VE DONE BECAUSE I'M
  • 00:34:52.070 --> 00:34:54.160
  • FREE, HE HAS FREED ME.
  • 00:34:54.180 --> 00:34:56.220
  • I HAVE NO DESIRE, NO PASSION, NO NOTHING.
  • 00:34:56.240 --> 00:35:00.030
  • ALL RIGHT, SO THAT'S GRACE.
  • 00:35:00.050 --> 00:35:03.050
  • HE SAID YOU LOST YOUR FIRST LOVE SO I'VE COME
  • 00:35:03.070 --> 00:35:06.070
  • BACK TO THE THING THAT MATTERS MOST IS MY
  • 00:35:06.090 --> 00:35:09.090
  • INTIMACY WITH HIM AND THERE'S NOTHING CAN STOP
  • 00:35:09.110 --> 00:35:13.080
  • IT BUT A LIE, AND I'M NOT GONNA LISTEN TO THE LIES
  • 00:35:13.100 --> 00:35:17.280
  • ANYMORE. YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, YOU'RE FORSAKEN,
  • 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.100
  • YOU'RE TOO OLD, NOBODY WANTS YOU. SHUT UP!
  • 00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:26.190
  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO.
  • 00:35:26.210 --> 00:35:28.240
  • I'M NOT EVEN GONNA TALK TO YOU.
  • 00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:31.110
  • YOU SAID YOU WOULD NEVER LEAVE ME AND YOUR LOVE
  • 00:35:31.130 --> 00:35:34.190
  • WAS UNCONDITIONAL. I LOVE HER BUT
  • 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:38.260
  • THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CONDITIONS THERE.
  • 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.250
  • - WHAT ARE THEY?
  • 00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:43.050
  • - I'M NOT GONNA NAME THEM BECAUSE YOU WON'T DO
  • 00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:46.050
  • THEM AND I'M GLAD. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
  • 00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:50.110
  • YOU KNOW THAT IS GOD'S LOVE, AND I CAN LOVE YOU
  • 00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:54.190
  • THAT WAY IF I GO TO THE SOURCE AND GET IT.
  • 00:35:54.210 --> 00:36:00.170
  • BUT I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THIS GRACE FOR BY
  • 00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:05.250
  • GRACE ARE YOU SAVED THROUGH FAITH, NOT ACTION,
  • 00:36:05.270 --> 00:36:10.120
  • BELIEVING. IT'S A GIFT OF GOD, NOT OF WORKS.
  • 00:36:10.140 --> 00:36:15.240
  • THE ONLY WORK YOU'LL HAVE IS FIGHTING FOR FAITH.
  • 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:20.220
  • BY THE WAY, I KNOW I'M TALKING TO THE WHOLE
  • 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:24.100
  • WORLD RIGHT NOW AND IF SOME OF THE WORLD LEADERS
  • 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:27.280
  • ARE WATCHING IN OTHER COUNTRIES, HE TOLD ME
  • 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.110
  • TO TELL YOU THIS.
  • 00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:35.020
  • YOU WANT TO RULE AND REIGN FOREVER.
  • 00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:37.130
  • I UNDERSTAND THAT.
  • 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:39.120
  • AND THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL RULE AND REIGN FOREVER IS
  • 00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:43.240
  • YOU BOW YOUR KNEE TO THE KING OF KINGS.
  • 00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:48.200
  • THAT KING IS JESUS.
  • 00:36:48.220 --> 00:36:50.210
  • HE'S THE ONE THAT SAID I'M GONNA LAY DOWN MY
  • 00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:52.240
  • LIFE FOR YOU, BUT I'M COMING BACK, AND HE DID.
  • 00:36:52.260 --> 00:36:57.230
  • HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
  • 00:36:57.250 --> 00:36:59.010
  • HE WAS SEEN BY OVER 500 PEOPLE.
  • 00:36:59.030 --> 00:37:01.010
  • ALL OF THOSE MEN, THEIR NAMES ARE ON THAT
  • 00:37:01.030 --> 00:37:03.170
  • FOUNDATION THAT HAVE CITY.
  • 00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.190
  • THEY'RE GONNA RULE AND REIGN WITH HIM TOO.
  • 00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:07.120
  • YOU CAN RULE AND REIGN FOREVER IF YOU'LL BOW
  • 00:37:07.140 --> 00:37:10.280
  • YOUR KNEES TO THE KING OF KINGS AND SUBMIT TO HIS
  • 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.270
  • AUTHORITY, THEN YOU CAN BE THE KIND OF LEADER
  • 00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:18.120
  • THAT GOD CREATED YOU TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  • 00:37:18.140 --> 00:37:21.230
  • AND YOU WON'T LOSE IT ALL.
  • 00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:23.230
  • IF YOU DON'T, YOU WILL LOSE IT ALL WHETHER
  • 00:37:23.250 --> 00:37:26.150
  • YOU'RE AN INDIVIDUAL OR A GROUP.
  • 00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:28.200
  • IT'S THAT SIMPLE. SO THAT'S THE GRACE.
  • 00:37:28.220 --> 00:37:31.040
  • - MATT, WE WERE TAUGHT THAT OUR FATHER WAS A
  • 00:37:31.060 --> 00:37:34.240
  • JUDGING FATHER WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP.
  • 00:37:34.260 --> 00:37:37.240
  • THAT'S THE LAW. NOW IT'S GRACE.
  • 00:37:37.270 --> 00:37:40.110
  • HE'S A LOVING FATHER, NOT I'LL BEAT YOUR HEAD EVERY
  • 00:37:40.130 --> 00:37:45.120
  • TIME YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG.
  • 00:37:45.140 --> 00:37:47.140
  • A FEW YEARS AGO, I LISTENED TO HIM AND IT
  • 00:37:47.160 --> 00:37:50.160
  • GOT IN MY SPIRIT NOT ONLY DID I LOVE JESUS,
  • 00:37:50.180 --> 00:37:54.130
  • WE'VE SUNG THAT SONG ALL MY LIFE,
  • 00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:56.050
  • OH, HOW I LOVE JESUS,
  • 00:37:56.070 --> 00:37:57.280
  • BUT I FOUND OUT HOW MUCH HE REALLY LOVES ME,
  • 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.150
  • AND THAT HAS CHANGED MY WHOLE CONCEPT OF HIM.
  • 00:38:01.170 --> 00:38:05.290
  • I WOULD NEVER WANT TO GO OUT ON HIM BECAUSE I KNOW
  • 00:38:06.010 --> 00:38:09.160
  • HOW MUCH HE LOVES ME, JUST LIKE WITH LAVERNE.
  • 00:38:09.180 --> 00:38:12.070
  • I WOULD NEVER GO OUT ON HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE
  • 00:38:12.090 --> 00:38:14.200
  • LOVES ME SO MUCH.
  • 00:38:14.220 --> 00:38:16.210
  • IT'S THE SAME WAY WITH JESUS.
  • 00:38:16.230 --> 00:38:19.020
  • AND I JUST LOVE BECAUSE IT TAKES ALL THE PRESSURE
  • 00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:22.180
  • OFF OF YOU, AND YOU JUST FLOW IN GRACE AND HIS LOVE.
  • 00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:28.020
  • - IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU GET TO FORGET ABOUT
  • 00:38:28.040 --> 00:38:29.250
  • YOURSELF AND JUST GO INTO THE FUTURE AND DO WHAT
  • 00:38:29.270 --> 00:38:32.230
  • GOD'S CALLED YOU TO DO.
  • 00:38:32.250 --> 00:38:34.020
  • YOU FORGET ABOUT YOURSELF AND THAT'S I THINK THAT'S
  • 00:38:34.040 --> 00:38:36.220
  • WHAT HE WANTS TO HAPPEN.
  • 00:38:36.240 --> 00:38:38.280
  • IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE THAT'S EMERGING
  • 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.120
  • IN OUR GENERATION. I JUST LOVE IT.
  • 00:38:43.140 --> 00:38:45.200
  • - EVERYBODY IN THE BIBLE FAILED. IT'S RECORDED.
  • 00:38:45.220 --> 00:38:51.100
  • BUT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL? WHY?
  • 00:38:51.120 --> 00:38:53.000
  • BECAUSE GOD ORDAINED IT THAT WAY.
  • 00:38:53.020 --> 00:38:55.000
  • THAT'S WHY THE NEW COVENANT CAME.
  • 00:38:55.020 --> 00:38:57.070
  • AND NO, IT'S NOT A LICENSE FOR YOU TO SIN.
  • 00:38:57.090 --> 00:39:00.210
  • I DON'T WANT TO SIN.
  • 00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:02.100
  • I DON'T WANT TO DO ANY KIND OF SIN AS LONG AS
  • 00:39:02.120 --> 00:39:05.000
  • I'M CLOSE TO HIM AND HE'S THE ONE THAT'S
  • 00:39:05.020 --> 00:39:08.050
  • NOT GONNA LEAVE ME.
  • 00:39:08.070 --> 00:39:10.120
  • - LAVERNE, I TELL ON THE AIR A LOT, I PROBABLY DID
  • 00:39:10.140 --> 00:39:15.100
  • IT THIS WEEK ON BETTER TOGETHER, I TALK ABOUT
  • 00:39:15.120 --> 00:39:19.080
  • BACK, IT HAD TO BE PROBABLY 34 YEARS AGO
  • 00:39:19.100 --> 00:39:24.290
  • RIGHT AFTER WE GOT MARRIED AND I'LL NEVER
  • 00:39:25.010 --> 00:39:26.290
  • FORGET, WE WERE ON A BUS SOMEWHERE DOING SOMETHING
  • 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:29.280
  • ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE WE WERE TOGETHER A LOT
  • 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.010
  • FOR YEARS, AND I WAS MOANING TO YOU GUYS.
  • 00:39:34.030 --> 00:39:38.000
  • THEY WERE LIKE A THIRD SET OF PARENTS TO ME.
  • 00:39:38.020 --> 00:39:40.000
  • I HAD PAUL AND JAN, MY MOM AND DADDY,
  • 00:39:40.020 --> 00:39:41.130
  • AND I HAD LAVERNE AND EDITH.
  • 00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:43.080
  • AND I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT A LETTER THAT I HAD
  • 00:39:43.100 --> 00:39:47.090
  • RECEIVED, YOU PROBABLY DON'T REMEMBER THIS, VERY
  • 00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:49.190
  • NEGATIVE LETTER TOWARDS ME AND I WAS YOUNG.
  • 00:39:49.210 --> 00:39:51.220
  • I THOUGHT EVERYBODY LOVED ME.
  • 00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:53.160
  • YOU KNOW, FOUND OUT NOT EVERYBODY.
  • 00:39:53.180 --> 00:39:57.000
  • AND SOMEONE HAD WRITTEN ME A HORRIBLE LETTER AND
  • 00:39:57.020 --> 00:40:00.220
  • I WAS SHARING WITH YOU, AND YOU SAID TO ME AND
  • 00:40:00.240 --> 00:40:03.290
  • I TELL THIS ALL THE TIME, YOU SAID BABY,
  • 00:40:04.010 --> 00:40:06.010
  • THE MEANING OF TRUE SPIRITUALITY IS WHEN YOU
  • 00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:11.100
  • GET A LETTER THAT SAYS YOU HAVE SET THE MOON IN
  • 00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:15.050
  • PLACE, YOU SET THE STARS, YOU'RE AMAZING, AND THEN
  • 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:18.250
  • YOU GET ONE THAT SAYS YOU ARE THE DAUGHTER OF THE
  • 00:40:18.270 --> 00:40:21.010
  • DEVIL HIMSELF, AND HE SAID TRUE SPIRITUALITY IS
  • 00:40:21.030 --> 00:40:24.140
  • WHEN THEY BOTH AFFECT YOU THE SAME WAY BECAUSE
  • 00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:27.270
  • YOU'VE GOT TO SEE YOURSELF THE WAY GOD SEES
  • 00:40:27.290 --> 00:40:31.070
  • YOU. AND I'VE NEVER FORGOTTEN THAT.
  • 00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:34.010
  • AND IT IS RECEIVING THAT LOVE AND THAT GRACE.
  • 00:40:34.030 --> 00:40:39.110
  • - BY THE WAY, MY HOSTING OF A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
  • 00:40:39.130 --> 00:40:45.230
  • SAY THAT I DON'T LET YOU TALK ENOUGH AND THAT I
  • 00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:47.180
  • KIND OF TALK OVER YOU.
  • 00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.130
  • WELL, JUST LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE I HAD OVER ALL
  • 00:40:49.150 --> 00:40:51.100
  • THESE YEARS. EDITH HAS SAID NINE WORDS
  • 00:40:51.120 --> 00:40:53.130
  • ALL THIS ENTIRE BROADCAST.
  • 00:40:53.150 --> 00:40:55.100
  • - YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT A LETTER.
  • 00:40:55.120 --> 00:40:57.170
  • - I THOUGHT YOU WANTED ME TO COME AND IT WAS
  • 00:40:57.190 --> 00:40:59.180
  • ALL RIGHT TO BRING HER WITH ME.
  • 00:40:59.200 --> 00:41:01.150
  • - WE GOT A LETTER ONE TIME FROM A LADY AND SHE
  • 00:41:01.170 --> 00:41:04.250
  • SAID EDITH TRIPP EITHER HAS PALSY OR SHE AGREES
  • 00:41:04.270 --> 00:41:08.150
  • WITH EVERYTHING HER HUSBAND SAYS.
  • 00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:10.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:41:10.200 --> 00:41:14.150
  • - WELL I WENT TO THE LAVERNE TRIPP SCHOOL OF
  • 00:41:14.170 --> 00:41:17.120
  • PRAISE HOSTING SO THAT'S WHY.
  • 00:41:17.140 --> 00:41:19.260
  • NOW YOU KNOW WHERE I GOT IT.
  • 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.000
  • - YOU KNOW WHAT I TOLD THE LORD I CAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:41:22.020 --> 00:41:23.240
  • FIND SOMEBODY ELSE.
  • 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:26.220
  • I'LL HELP YOU BUT I-- OH, MAN, THIS IS SO GOOD.
  • 00:41:26.240 --> 00:41:31.090
  • - Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
  • 00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:33.240
  • - BECAUSE I KNOW GOD'S PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR IT,
  • 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:37.270
  • AND OF COURSE WE ALL, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO LIKE US.
  • 00:41:37.290 --> 00:41:41.190
  • THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
  • 00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:47.160
  • BUT IT DOES MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT THINGS AND
  • 00:41:47.180 --> 00:41:51.050
  • YOUR PERCEPTION, AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU YOUR
  • 00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:54.090
  • PERCEPTION IS GONNA CHANGE, YOUR FEELINGS ARE
  • 00:41:54.110 --> 00:41:57.200
  • GONNA CHANGE, YOUR LIFE IS GONNA CHANGE WHETHER
  • 00:41:57.220 --> 00:42:00.190
  • YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SO LEARNING HOW, THIS IS A
  • 00:42:00.210 --> 00:42:05.060
  • JOURNEY THAT WE'RE ON.
  • 00:42:05.080 --> 00:42:06.260
  • IT'S NOT ABOUT A DESTINATION.
  • 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.140
  • IT'S ALWAYS A DESTINATION WITH ME.
  • 00:42:09.160 --> 00:42:11.150
  • HEAVEN, I WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:12.230
  • I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL.
  • 00:42:12.250 --> 00:42:14.060
  • OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL EITHER. WHY?
  • 00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:16.200
  • WELL I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL.
  • 00:42:16.220 --> 00:42:18.080
  • WELL I CAN'T NOT GO. I DESERVE HELL. REALLY?
  • 00:42:18.100 --> 00:42:22.140
  • IS THAT GREATER THAN WHAT GOD DID WITH HIS SON AT
  • 00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:25.160
  • THE CROSS? WHY DID HE DO IT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T.
  • 00:42:25.180 --> 00:42:28.270
  • SO IF YOU'LL BELIEVE, YOU GOT IT.
  • 00:42:28.290 --> 00:42:31.050
  • NOW GET TO KNOW HIM.
  • 00:42:31.070 --> 00:42:34.020
  • GET TO KNOW HIM, NOT WHAT PEOPLE'S OPINION IS.
  • 00:42:34.040 --> 00:42:38.020
  • HONEY, LET ME TALK A LITTLE HERE.
  • 00:42:38.040 --> 00:42:41.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:43.070
  • I SEE Y'ALL CARRYING ON A CONVERSATION.
  • 00:42:43.090 --> 00:42:46.280
  • THEY'RE CARRYING ON A CONVERSATION.
  • 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.000
  • THEY TUNE IN TO HEAR US TALK.
  • 00:42:49.020 --> 00:42:52.010
  • I KNOW THEY DID.
  • 00:42:52.030 --> 00:42:53.260
  • - SO YOUR BIG SONG WAS WOULD NOT BE--
  • 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.260
  • I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED.
  • 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.270
  • Y'ALL SANG THAT A MILLION TIMES ON TBN ALL THROUGH
  • 00:42:58.290 --> 00:43:02.180
  • TELETHON, EVERYTHING, OUR REVIVALS.
  • 00:43:02.200 --> 00:43:05.240
  • SOME OF THOSE, I GOT SO I MISS THOSE TIMES, BUT
  • 00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:09.090
  • THAT IS LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS, AND EVERY
  • 00:43:09.110 --> 00:43:11.230
  • GENERATION HAS TALKED ABOUT THE GOOD OLD DAYS
  • 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:14.180
  • AND STUFF THAT WE LOOK, I MISS THOSE REVIVALS JUST
  • 00:43:14.200 --> 00:43:18.080
  • WITH ALL MY HEART. YOU KNOW?
  • 00:43:18.100 --> 00:43:21.200
  • WE TRY TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT PUTTING, DOING
  • 00:43:21.220 --> 00:43:24.210
  • ANOTHER ONE, I CAN'T GET HIM TO DO IT!
  • 00:43:24.230 --> 00:43:28.120
  • - IT'S ALL MY FAULT.
  • 00:43:28.140 --> 00:43:31.120
  • - WHAT DID MY MOM SAY TO YOU WHEN YOU SAID JUST
  • 00:43:31.140 --> 00:43:34.160
  • NOW I'VE HAD MY SHARE OF UPS AND DOWNS?
  • 00:43:34.180 --> 00:43:37.080
  • - MY SHARE OF UP, VICTORY IS MINE TODAY.
  • 00:43:37.100 --> 00:43:41.140
  • I GOT IT TODAY.
  • 00:43:41.160 --> 00:43:43.210
  • - MOM WOULD SAY WHAT?
  • 00:43:43.230 --> 00:43:45.260
  • - SHE'D SAY HOW MANY MORE UPS AND DOWNS
  • 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:48.040
  • YOU GONNA HAVE?
  • 00:43:48.060 --> 00:43:50.290
  • - I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GONNA BE AS MANY AS I'VE HAD.
  • 00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:55.080
  • - OKAY, I'M GONNA TAKE OVER.
  • 00:43:55.100 --> 00:43:57.050
  • LET'S GO TO THE TRIPP'S INDIA ROLL. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:43:57.070 --> 00:44:00.170
  • - ANNOUNCER: LAVERNE'S FIRST TRIP TO INDIA
  • 00:44:02.290 --> 00:44:04.080
  • WAS IN 1986. LAVERNE SAID...
  • 00:44:04.100 --> 00:44:07.080
  • - LAVERNE TRIPP: I SAW SUFFERING I HAD NEVER
  • 00:44:07.100 --> 00:44:08.280
  • SEEN ESPECIALLY AMONG THE CHILDREN.
  • 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.040
  • THEY WERE BEING ABANDONED ON THE STREETS, DYING
  • 00:44:12.060 --> 00:44:15.010
  • BECAUSE OF NO FOOD, NO CLOTHING, NO ONE TO CARE.
  • 00:44:15.030 --> 00:44:19.270
  • I BEGAN TO WEEP, FOR I KNEW GOD SAID TRUE
  • 00:44:19.290 --> 00:44:23.030
  • RELIGION IS TAKING CARE OF ORPHANS, AND I KNEW
  • 00:44:23.050 --> 00:44:26.070
  • I WAS NOT TAKING CARE OF ONE.
  • 00:44:26.090 --> 00:44:29.250
  • I SAID LORD, THERE ARE OVER A BILLION PEOPLE
  • 00:44:29.270 --> 00:44:32.070
  • IN THIS COUNTRY.
  • 00:44:32.090 --> 00:44:33.180
  • I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO MEET THEIR NEED.
  • 00:44:33.200 --> 00:44:36.030
  • HE SPOKE TO ME AND SAID YOU CAN HELP ONE OF THEM.
  • 00:44:36.050 --> 00:44:39.150
  • SO I ADOPTED A LITTLE GIRL.
  • 00:44:39.170 --> 00:44:41.240
  • SHE IS NOW THE HEAD NURSE AT THE HOSPITAL IN
  • 00:44:41.260 --> 00:44:44.080
  • VIJAYAWADA INDIA SAVING LIVES DAILY, PHYSICALLY
  • 00:44:44.100 --> 00:44:47.130
  • AS WELL AS SPIRITUALLY.
  • 00:44:47.150 --> 00:44:50.030
  • - ANNOUNCER: LAVERNE TRIPP MINISTRIES RENTED A
  • 00:44:50.050 --> 00:44:53.030
  • HOUSE, HIRED A STAFF AND BEGAN TAKING IN ORPHANS.
  • 00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:57.180
  • THEN THEY PURCHASED PROPERTY, BEGAN TO BUILD
  • 00:44:57.200 --> 00:45:00.090
  • CHILDREN'S HOMES, CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS AND
  • 00:45:00.110 --> 00:45:03.160
  • HAVE RAISED UP MORE THAN 300 PASTORS WHO ARE
  • 00:45:03.180 --> 00:45:06.090
  • PREACHING THE GOSPEL ALL OVER INDIA.
  • 00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:09.120
  • MANY STATES IN INDIA HAVE A LAW THAT STATES ANYONE
  • 00:45:09.140 --> 00:45:13.040
  • WHO CONVERTS A PERSON FROM HINDUISM TO
  • 00:45:13.060 --> 00:45:15.220
  • CHRISTIANITY WILL BE LOCKED UP IN PRISON FOR 3 YEARS.
  • 00:45:15.240 --> 00:45:20.030
  • MANY OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE BEEN VOTED INTO
  • 00:45:20.050 --> 00:45:21.240
  • GOVERNMENT OFFICES. BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE
  • 00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:24.080
  • OF OUR STUDENTS, MANY OF THESE STATES
  • 00:45:24.100 --> 00:45:26.150
  • HAVE REVERSED THAT LAW, AND IT IS NOW LEGAL TO
  • 00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:29.090
  • PREACH JESUS IN STATES WHERE IT HAS NEVER
  • 00:45:29.110 --> 00:45:31.090
  • BEEN LEGAL BEFORE.
  • 00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:33.090
  • ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:45:33.110 --> 00:45:35.170
  • MANY OF US HAVE PRAYED LORD, USE ME.
  • 00:45:35.190 --> 00:45:38.280
  • HERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ANSWER
  • 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.240
  • TO YOUR PRAYER.
  • 00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:42.160
  • PROVERBS 19:17 SAYS HE WHO GIVES TO THE POOR
  • 00:45:42.180 --> 00:45:46.040
  • LENDS TO THE LORD AND HE WILL REPAY HIM.
  • 00:45:46.060 --> 00:45:52.010
  • - MATT CROUCH: INDIA. HOW DID THAT GET STARTED?
  • 00:45:52.030 --> 00:45:55.130
  • - 1986 IN OHIO, THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:45:55.150 --> 00:45:58.260
  • WATCHED US ON TBN.
  • 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.120
  • HE CAME TO ME AND SAID WE'RE BUSINESSMEN AND WE
  • 00:46:01.140 --> 00:46:04.170
  • GO TO INDIA EVERY YEAR TO TRY TO TEACH BUSINESS.
  • 00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:07.200
  • WE NEED AN EVANGELIST.
  • 00:46:07.220 --> 00:46:09.280
  • I'LL PAY YOUR EXPENSES IF YOU'LL GO.
  • 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:11.220
  • I SAID I'LL GO BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANTED TO GO TO
  • 00:46:11.240 --> 00:46:14.060
  • INDIA. THERE WAS A WOMAN IN OUR CHURCH IN
  • 00:46:14.080 --> 00:46:16.020
  • NORTH CAROLINA WAS A MISSIONARY TO INDIA.
  • 00:46:16.040 --> 00:46:18.290
  • AND SO I WENT TO INDIA FIRST TIME,
  • 00:46:19.010 --> 00:46:23.110
  • AND I WAS BLOWN AWAY.
  • 00:46:23.130 --> 00:46:28.030
  • I SAID GOD, HOW CAN A COUNTRY LIKE THIS WITH A
  • 00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:32.140
  • BILLION PEOPLE, WITH A CLIMATE THAT THEY CAN
  • 00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:34.270
  • GROW FOOD YEAR-ROUND BE SO MANY STARVING.
  • 00:46:34.290 --> 00:46:38.050
  • AND HE SAID THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO A COUNTRY OR
  • 00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:40.080
  • AN INDIVIDUAL THAT REJECTS THE TRUTH.
  • 00:46:40.100 --> 00:46:43.200
  • I GOT TO GO TO THE PLACE WHERE THOMAS WAS STONED
  • 00:46:43.220 --> 00:46:46.250
  • TO DEATH IN INDIA.
  • 00:46:46.270 --> 00:46:49.120
  • AND I STOOD ON THAT SPOT AND SAID GOD,
  • 00:46:49.140 --> 00:46:51.120
  • GIVE ME THIS NATION.
  • 00:46:51.140 --> 00:46:53.160
  • HE SAID TAKE IT, AND SO WE STARTED.
  • 00:46:53.180 --> 00:46:58.220
  • IT WAS OVER 10.000 CHILDREN COME THROUGH
  • 00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:00.180
  • OUR HOME SINCE '86.
  • 00:47:00.200 --> 00:47:03.020
  • I SENT A CHECK, I ADOPTED TEN CHILDREN AND THEY HAD
  • 00:47:03.040 --> 00:47:06.140
  • A HOME THERE, ABNER WAS HIS NAME AND HIS
  • 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:10.080
  • WIFE IS STILL LIVING, HE'S GONE ON.
  • 00:47:10.100 --> 00:47:12.020
  • WE WENT TOGETHER SEVERAL TIMES.
  • 00:47:12.040 --> 00:47:16.110
  • AND THE LAST TIME WE WENT, HE STARTED CRYING
  • 00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:21.050
  • WHEN HE SAW WHAT WE WERE DOING, AND HE SAID I
  • 00:47:21.070 --> 00:47:24.260
  • DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HE BROUGHT TO
  • 00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.240
  • INDIA, HE SAID YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT DID
  • 00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:29.020
  • ANYTHING. OF COURSE THAT MADE US FEEL SAD.
  • 00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:34.180
  • WHY WOULDN'T EVERYBODY DO SOMETHING?
  • 00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:36.060
  • ONE PERSON CAN'T DO IT ALL.
  • 00:47:36.080 --> 00:47:39.030
  • IT TAKES THE FAMILY OF GOD WORKING TOGETHER TO
  • 00:47:39.050 --> 00:47:41.200
  • MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO IT'S BEEN AWESOME.
  • 00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:45.020
  • THE LAST CHURCH WE BUILT SEATS 1200, AND WE PUT
  • 00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:49.080
  • LIGHTS IN FOR TELEVISION, AND THEY'RE SHOOTING
  • 00:47:49.100 --> 00:47:52.030
  • TELEVISION THERE IN INDIA, BROADCASTING CHRISTIAN
  • 00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:55.110
  • THERE. IT'S THE INDIANS DOING IT.
  • 00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:58.290
  • - I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT ONE LITTLE GIRL TOO.
  • 00:47:59.010 --> 00:48:01.000
  • HER MOTHER LEFT HER AT THE TRAIN STATION.
  • 00:48:01.020 --> 00:48:04.000
  • SHE'S PROBABLY THREE YEARS OLD PROBABLY.
  • 00:48:04.020 --> 00:48:06.250
  • LEFT HER THERE ABOUT THREE DAYS. NEVER MOVED.
  • 00:48:06.270 --> 00:48:10.280
  • DIDN'T USE THE BATHROOM THERE, DIDN'T EAT.
  • 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.090
  • SO OUR PEOPLE CALLED US AND SAID DO YOU WANT US
  • 00:48:15.110 --> 00:48:17.260
  • TO TAKE HER IN. WE SAID YES, OF COURSE.
  • 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.170
  • AND THEY NAMED HER ESTHER, FROM THE PIT TO THE PALACE.
  • 00:48:20.190 --> 00:48:26.100
  • AND WHEN LAVERNE WENT BACK A FEW YEARS LATER,
  • 00:48:26.120 --> 00:48:29.020
  • SHE WAS 16 YEARS OLD AND SHE WAS LEADING PRAISE
  • 00:48:29.040 --> 00:48:32.090
  • AND WORSHIP WITH ALL OF THOSE CHILDREN.
  • 00:48:32.110 --> 00:48:35.020
  • - THEY NAMED HER AFTER ESTHER, SHE'S THE WIFE OF
  • 00:48:35.040 --> 00:48:37.020
  • ABNER. THEY HAD A GREAT BUSINESS.
  • 00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:39.180
  • SHE'S STILL LIVING DOING GREAT.
  • 00:48:39.200 --> 00:48:43.000
  • A FEW YEARS AGO I SAID LORD, I'M NOT GOING BACK,
  • 00:48:43.020 --> 00:48:46.220
  • I'M STAYING HERE. I'M GONNA GIVE MY LIFE TO INDIA.
  • 00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:51.040
  • AND HE SAID NO.
  • 00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:53.100
  • IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEY CAN'T
  • 00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:55.000
  • DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
  • 00:48:55.020 --> 00:48:56.230
  • BECAUSE ALL I'M DOING IS SENDING MONEY EVERY MONTH.
  • 00:48:56.250 --> 00:49:01.040
  • - MATT: LET ME JUMP IN RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:49:01.060 --> 00:49:03.100
  • THE INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN IS FOR HOW YOU CAN
  • 00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:08.060
  • BE A PART OF WHAT LAVERNE AND EDITH ARE
  • 00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:10.000
  • DOING THERE IN INDIA.
  • 00:49:10.020 --> 00:49:12.220
  • MAKE DONATIONS, HELP THEM DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
  • 00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:15.280
  • OVER ALL THOSE YEARS-- JUST SIT THERE
  • 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.150
  • AND BE GOOD FOR SECOND.
  • 00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:20.250
  • LET ME JUST JUMP IN.
  • 00:49:20.270 --> 00:49:22.260
  • AND OVER ALL THE YEARS THEY'VE SOWED AND SOWED
  • 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:26.170
  • AND SOWED AND SOWED INTO THIS MINISTRY.
  • 00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:29.060
  • THEY'VE BEEN FAITHFUL, THEY'VE HOSTED, THEY'VE
  • 00:49:29.080 --> 00:49:30.290
  • DONE EVERYTHING THEY KNOW TO DO, AND NOW IT'S OUR
  • 00:49:31.010 --> 00:49:33.120
  • TURN TO RETURN BACK.
  • 00:49:33.140 --> 00:49:35.070
  • SO ALL THAT INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN IS
  • 00:49:35.090 --> 00:49:36.290
  • HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT THE WORK IN INDIA.
  • 00:49:37.010 --> 00:49:39.260
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP, FAITHFUL SERVANTS OVER
  • 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.280
  • THIS ENTIRE GENERATION, AND THEY'RE STILL DOING
  • 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.130
  • THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:49.090
  • RIGHT THERE IN INDIA. SUPPORT THEM. MAKE A DONATION.
  • 00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:53.170
  • GO TO THAT INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN AND DO WHAT IT
  • 00:49:53.190 --> 00:49:57.270
  • TELLS YOU TO DO AND HELP THEM MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
  • 00:49:57.290 --> 00:50:00.140
  • - EDITH: THANK YOU MATT.
  • 00:50:00.160 --> 00:50:01.230
  • - YOU'RE WELCOME.
  • 00:50:01.250 --> 00:50:02.260
  • - LAVERNE: YOU ARE SAVED, AREN'T YOU?
  • 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.100
  • - JUST GOT SAVED YESTERDAY.
  • 00:50:04.120 --> 00:50:06.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:06.020 --> 00:50:07.210
  • LIKE YOU...
  • 00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:09.140
  • I FOLLOWED YOUR EXAMPLE OVER ALL THOSE YEARS.
  • 00:50:09.160 --> 00:50:11.220
  • LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'VE BEEN KIND OF FLIPPING
  • 00:50:11.240 --> 00:50:16.020
  • THROUGH ALL THESE AMAZING PHOTOS AND JUST ALL OF
  • 00:50:16.040 --> 00:50:19.280
  • THE YEARS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS JUST,
  • 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.000
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY MEMBERS HERE.
  • 00:50:23.020 --> 00:50:26.240
  • BUT I WANT TO KIND OF GET YOUR, NOT THAT YOU
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  • WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY, BUT I WANT
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  • YOUR EXCLAMATION POINT.
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  • IF YOU LOOK BACK LAVERNE AND EDITH, IF YOU LOOK
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  • BACK OVER A FULL GENERATION NOW,
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  • TBN IS CELEBRATING ITS 45TH ANNIVERSARY.
  • 00:50:43.140 --> 00:50:47.150
  • SO IN 1973, THE LORD SPOKE SIMPLY TO MY MOM
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  • AND DAD, AND 45 YEARS LATER WE'RE STILL SITTING
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  • HERE DOING THE SAME THING WE DID BACK IN THE 70S.
  • 00:50:56.040 --> 00:51:00.100
  • LITERALLY. SETS LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT,
  • 00:51:00.120 --> 00:51:03.220
  • CAMERAS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT,
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  • LIGHTING IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
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  • WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE IMPROVED SOME THINGS BUT
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  • AT THE SAME THING, THE CORE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE,
  • 00:51:11.020 --> 00:51:13.190
  • THE CONTENT OF WHAT TODAY'S PROGRAM IS
  • 00:51:13.210 --> 00:51:16.100
  • IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S BEEN FOR 45 YEARS.
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  • AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF A, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
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  • THE LAST 40 YEARS?
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  • WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT GOD'S PLAN WAS WHEN
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  • HE SPOKE TO PAUL AND JAN CROUCH IN THE 70S AND
  • 00:51:32.290 --> 00:51:35.240
  • THEN SPOKE TO YOU AND SAID THE WORDS TELEVISION
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  • TO YOU, AND THEN FOR YOU TO SPEND THE NEXT
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  • 25 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE ON TELEVISION AND GOING AROUND,
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  • YOU KNOW. WHAT'S JUST ON YOUR HEART, A LITTLE
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  • EXCLAMATION POINT ON THIS PROGRAM IF YOU WOULD.
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  • - MY EXCLAMATION WOULD BE WE DID THE BEST WE
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  • COULD DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
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  • CIRCUMSTANCES ARE ALWAYS SO EVERYBODY'S GOT
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  • CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THANK GOD FOR WHAT HE DID
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  • THROUGH ALL OF US IN SPITE OF ALL OF US.
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  • I REJOICE THAT I WAS A PART OF IT.
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  • NEVER MET ANYBODY IN MY LIFE LIKE YOUR DAD AND MOM.
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  • THAT DETERMINED TO DO WHAT THEY KNEW
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  • THEY WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
  • 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.110
  • I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO START A NETWORK BUT I
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  • KNEW HE SAID TELEVISION, AND HE ALREADY HAD IT ALL
  • 00:52:38.140 --> 00:52:40.240
  • WORKED OUT, AND IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYONE THAT'S WATCHING.
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  • EVERYBODY THAT THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO DO WHAT
  • 00:52:45.250 --> 00:52:49.010
  • GOD WANTS THEM TO DO.
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  • YOU HAVE A DESIRE, AND I KNOW YOU DO SO I CAN'T
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  • SING, I CAN'T PREACH, I CAN'T, I'M NOT A BUILDER,
  • 00:52:55.100 --> 00:52:58.200
  • STOP. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.
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  • YOU CAN DO WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO AND THAT'S
  • 00:53:03.160 --> 00:53:07.030
  • FIRST OF ALL HE WANTS YOU TO INTERCEDE.
  • 00:53:07.050 --> 00:53:10.080
  • THAT'S HIS MINISTRY IS THE MINISTRY OF INTERCESSION.
  • 00:53:10.100 --> 00:53:13.100
  • HE WANTS YOU TO PRAY FOR HIS CHILDREN.
  • 00:53:13.120 --> 00:53:19.290
  • ALL YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS FLIP TO ANOTHER CHANNEL
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  • AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF SUFFERING, OKAY?
  • 00:53:22.220 --> 00:53:27.130
  • WE HAVE THE ANSWER BUT EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD
  • 00:53:27.150 --> 00:53:30.060
  • HASN'T HEARD IT YET, BUT HE'S GOT YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:33.290
  • ARE READY TO DO IT AND FINISH WHAT WE,
  • 00:53:34.010 --> 00:53:38.220
  • WHERE WE STOPPED. WE'RE STILL DOING.
  • 00:53:38.240 --> 00:53:41.240
  • WE'RE SOWING SEED NOW.
  • 00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:44.260
  • SO I RECOMMEND PRAY AND THEN DO SOMETHING.
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  • WHATEVER IT IS.
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  • THERE'S A LITTLE LADY THE LAST THREE MONTHS
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  • I'VE GOTTEN $5 DOLLARS FROM HER.
  • 00:53:53.170 --> 00:53:55.090
  • - EVERY MONTH.
  • 00:53:55.110 --> 00:53:57.020
  • - COULDN'T WAIT TO WRITE HER BACK AND SAY
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  • I LOVE YOU, THANK YOU.
  • 00:53:58.200 --> 00:54:00.080
  • I DON'T KNOW IF I MET HER OR NOT, BUT MY POINT IS
  • 00:54:00.100 --> 00:54:03.290
  • THIS, WHATEVER HE LAYS ON YOUR HEART, AND IF YOU
  • 00:54:04.010 --> 00:54:07.280
  • HAVE ANY OPEN SPIRIT AT ALL AND I KNOW YOU DO,
  • 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.230
  • JUST SAY LORD I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU TELL ME.
  • 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:15.090
  • AND LISTEN TO HIS VOICE.
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  • HE'S NOT GONNA TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
  • 00:54:18.100 --> 00:54:19.260
  • DO IT, AND HE DON'T WANT US TO ENJOY A GOOD LIFE
  • 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.280
  • AND YOU NOT ENJOY IT.
  • 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.030
  • SOW THE SEED. YOU WILL BE BLESSED.
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  • JUST DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU AND DO IT NOW BECAUSE
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  • THIS IS NOT GONNA STOP. EVENTUALLY WE WILL.
  • 00:54:30.040 --> 00:54:34.060
  • I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER I HAVE HERE
  • 00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:36.010
  • AND I REALLY DON'T CARE.
  • 00:54:36.030 --> 00:54:38.080
  • - BUT WE PLANTED SEED FOR OUR KIDS,
  • 00:54:38.100 --> 00:54:39.270
  • OUR GRANDKIDS, YOU KNOW, OUR FAMILY.
  • 00:54:39.290 --> 00:54:42.190
  • - AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
  • 00:54:42.210 --> 00:54:44.050
  • - I'M THINKING WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR
  • 00:54:44.070 --> 00:54:47.140
  • ABOUT AN HOUR, AND IN THAT HOUR WE HEARD
  • 00:54:47.160 --> 00:54:51.240
  • BASICALLY YOUR STORY OF GETTING INVOLVED IN TBN,
  • 00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:57.130
  • AND WE KIND OF HEARD YOUR STORY OF LEGALISM AND YOU
  • 00:54:57.150 --> 00:55:01.010
  • FELT LIKE YOU COULDN'T LIVE UP, THE CHURCH WAS
  • 00:55:01.030 --> 00:55:04.090
  • REALLY STEEPED IN LEGALISM BACK IN THOSE
  • 00:55:04.110 --> 00:55:07.010
  • DAYS, AND YOU'VE INVITED PEOPLE TO ACCEPT JESUS,
  • 00:55:07.030 --> 00:55:11.130
  • YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT MISSIONS WORK, YOU'VE
  • 00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:13.180
  • DONE A LITTLE BIT OF PREACHING, A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.250
  • OF THIS, LITTLE BIT OF TELETHONING, AND
  • 00:55:15.270 --> 00:55:17.130
  • YOU DID A MINI TELETHON.
  • 00:55:17.150 --> 00:55:19.210
  • YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING YOU'VE DONE OVER
  • 00:55:19.230 --> 00:55:22.250
  • ALL THOSE YEARS AND YOU'RE FAITHFUL AND
  • 00:55:22.270 --> 00:55:24.230
  • WE LOVE YOU FOR IT.
  • 00:55:24.250 --> 00:55:26.230
  • AND IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE AND TO
  • 00:55:26.250 --> 00:55:29.210
  • CELEBRATE THIS KIND OF AMAZING THING.
  • 00:55:29.230 --> 00:55:32.210
  • LAVERNE AND EDITH TRIPP HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR LIVES.
  • 00:55:32.230 --> 00:55:35.010
  • NOW THAT MY DAD'S GONE, HE'S LIKE A DAD TO ME.
  • 00:55:35.030 --> 00:55:38.110
  • - UPDATE ON THE BOYS.
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  • - SHE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
  • 00:55:40.260 --> 00:55:42.040
  • - EVERYBODY IS GONNA ASK ABOUT THE BOYS.
  • 00:55:42.060 --> 00:55:43.170
  • EDITH, TELL US ABOUT THE BOYS.
  • 00:55:43.190 --> 00:55:45.000
  • - OUR OLDEST SON ROBB PASTORS A CHURCH HERE IN
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  • HENDERSONVILLE, FIREPLACE FELLOWSHIP ON WALTON
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  • FERRY ROAD, AND TERRY TRAVELS AND EVANGELIZES.
  • 00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:55.060
  • TERRY GETS UP EVERY DAY, GIVES GOD THE FIRST TWO
  • 00:55:55.080 --> 00:55:58.270
  • HOURS OF HIS LIFE, AND GOD HAS REVEALED THINGS
  • 00:55:58.290 --> 00:56:01.220
  • TO HIM THAT IS JUST UNREAL.
  • 00:56:01.240 --> 00:56:05.000
  • WRITTEN BOOKS AND TRAVELS EVERYWHERE,
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  • AND HE'S TEACHING HIS GENERATION.
  • 00:56:07.220 --> 00:56:10.020
  • WE HAVE SIX GRANDCHILDREN,
  • 00:56:10.040 --> 00:56:12.040
  • FIVE GIRLS AND ONE BOY.
  • 00:56:12.060 --> 00:56:14.130
  • - LAVERNE: THREE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.
  • 00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:16.030
  • - EDITH: AND THREE GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.
  • 00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:18.000
  • AND THEY'RE ALL SAVED EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE
  • 00:56:18.020 --> 00:56:20.150
  • ONES AND THEY'RE SAFE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE.
  • 00:56:20.170 --> 00:56:22.290
  • - OUR BOYS HAS TWO WIVES THAT ARE SUPER HELP TO
  • 00:56:23.010 --> 00:56:30.030
  • THEM. SHANDA IS A CO-PASTOR WITH ROBB.
  • 00:56:30.050 --> 00:56:33.180
  • SHE WORKS ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:36.120
  • - WE ACTUALLY SEE HER A LOT HERE ON TBN.
  • 00:56:36.140 --> 00:56:38.200
  • SHE DOES A MY STORY FOR US ABOUT THE TORNADO.
  • 00:56:38.220 --> 00:56:41.040
  • THAT IS SHANDA TRIPP.
  • 00:56:41.060 --> 00:56:42.270
  • - KIM, TERRY'S WIFE, WHAT A HELP TO HIM, CREATIVE.
  • 00:56:42.290 --> 00:56:47.060
  • I MEAN SHE'S-- YOU'RE CREATIVE.
  • 00:56:47.080 --> 00:56:50.120
  • WE'RE PROUD AND THANKFUL.
  • 00:56:50.140 --> 00:56:52.230
  • - WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU WOULD SIT HERE WITH US
  • 00:56:52.250 --> 00:56:55.090
  • AND SHARE YOUR STORY AND DO WHAT YOU DO, AND YOU
  • 00:56:55.110 --> 00:56:58.030
  • KIND OF FEEL LIKE A BIG OLD SANTA CLAUS
  • 00:56:58.050 --> 00:56:59.230
  • SITTING OVER THERE.
  • 00:56:59.250 --> 00:57:01.080
  • - EDITH: HE IS. HE'S MY HONEY SANTA CLAUS.
  • 00:57:01.100 --> 00:57:03.120
  • - I'M GONNA SIT IN YOUR LAP AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE LOVE.
  • 00:57:03.140 --> 00:57:06.100
  • - EDITH: HOW SWEET!
  • 00:57:06.120 --> 00:57:07.190
  • - THIS HAS JUST BEEN ONE OF THE BEST THINGS.
  • 00:57:07.210 --> 00:57:09.170
  • - I HAVE ONE QUESTION:
  • 00:57:09.190 --> 00:57:11.160
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR CHRISTMAS?
  • 00:57:11.180 --> 00:57:13.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:57:13.080 --> 00:57:15.150
  • HAVE YOU BEEN A GOOD BOY?
  • 00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:16.240
  • - WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:18.090
  • - MERRY CHRISTMAS.
  • 00:57:18.110 --> 00:57:19.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • [MUSIC]
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