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Praise | Kathie Lee Gifford | September 5, 2019

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON
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  • "PRAISE,"
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  • FROM NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE,
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  • SINGER, AUTHOR, AND
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  • AWARD-WINNING TELEVISION
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  • PERSONALITY,
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  • - ANNOUNCER: AND NOW MATT AND
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  • - MATT CROUCH: "PRAISE" COMES
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  • TO YOU FROM
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  • I FEEL LIKE THIS SHOW IS GONNA
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  • GET OUT OF HAND SOMEHOW,
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  • SOMEWAY--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • -- AND THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN
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  • MORE UNNECESSARY TO BE SITTING
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  • ON A SET.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YOU'RE RIGHT.
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  • KATHIE, I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: OH, MY GOD.
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  • WHAT'RE WE TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • TONIGHT?
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  • - KATHIE LEE GIFFORD: YOU KNOW
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  • I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT
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  • TO WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT-- THE
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  • WORD: "IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE
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  • WORD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD, AND
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  • THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE
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  • WORLD-- NOTHING WAS CREATED
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  • WITHOUT GOD, AND EVERYTHING WAS
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  • AND THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND
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  • DWELT AMONG US."
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  • THAT WORD HAS A NAME,
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  • AND IT'S YESHUA,
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  • IT'S JESUS.
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  • AND I WROTE THIS BOOK ABOUT A--
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  • IT CAME OUT,
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  • I THINK, IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR,
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  • THINKING THAT MAYBE TEN PEOPLE
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  • WOULD BUY IT,
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  • AND THAT'S WHEN MY MOTHER WAS
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  • ALIVE, AND SHE'D BUY ALL
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  • TEN AND--
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - LAURIE: BUT CAN YOU BELIEVE
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  • WHAT IT'S DONE?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: NO, NO.
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  • I WROTE IT WITH THIS AMAZING
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  • RABBI, A MESSIANIC RABBI NAMED--
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  • YOU HAD HIM ON THE SHOW,
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  • RABBI JASON SOBEL,
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  • AND HIS KNOWLEDGE
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  • OF THE WORD--
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  • WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE
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  • RABBIS IS THEY TAKE YOU TEN
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  • LAYERS DEEPER THAN ANYTHING YOU
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  • EVER LEARNED IN SUNDAY SCHOOL
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  • AND THEN EVEN CHURCH TODAY.
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  • - MATT: WHERE DID YOUR PASSION
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  • FOR THE WORD COME?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: WHEN I MET JESUS,
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  • I WANTED TO KNOW HIM BETTER.
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  • I WENT TO A MOVIE.
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  • THE LORD KNEW I WANTED TO BE AN
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  • ACTRESS AND A SINGER SINCE THE
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  • DAY I WAS BORN,
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  • AND HOW SWEET OF THE LORD
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  • TO MEET ME ACTUALLY IN
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  • A MOVIE THEATER.
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  • IT WASN'T IN A CHURCH.
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  • IT WASN'T BY, YOU KNOW,
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  • A PAMPHLET.
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  • IT WAS I SAW A MOVIE CALLED
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  • "THE RESTLESS ONES,"
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  • THAT THE BILLY GRAHAM
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  • ORGANIZATION HAD PUT OUT,
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  • FIRST TIME THAT ANYONE
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  • HAD MADE A FAITH-BASED FILM,
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  • BASICALLY, THAT WASN'T
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  • "THE ROBE," OR, YOU KNOW,
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  • "TEN COMMANDMENTS,"
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  • AND THAT KIND OF STUFF,
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  • BUT, I MEAN, A
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  • FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION MADE
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  • ONE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
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  • EVANGELISM, AND BILLY GOT A LOT
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  • OF FLACK FOR IT AT THE TIME
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  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO
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  • YOU KNOW, THAT, LIKE, "THE DEVIL
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  • LIVES IN A MINOR CHORD,
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  • SO JAZZ IS BAD,"
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  • "WINE IS NOT FERMENTED,
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  • SO DRINKING IS BAD,"
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  • AND THAT
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  • "WE CAN'T GO TO MOVIES
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  • BECAUSE--"
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  • AND THEN BILLY WAS ONE OF
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  • THE FIRST ONES WHO REALIZED,
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  • "WAIT A MINUTE, THE AIRWAVES
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  • ARE OWNED BY GOD.
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  • GOD OWNS EVERYTHING THAT HE'S
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  • EVER CREATED.
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  • WE GAVE IT OVER TO THE ENEMY,
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  • BUT, NO, I'M GONNA-- WE'RE GONNA
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  • TAKE IT BACK."
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  • AND LOOK AT HIS CRUSADES.
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  • MY SISTER AND MY MOTHER CAME TO
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  • KNOW THE LORD THROUGH HIS
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  • CRUSADES ON TV.
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  • I CAME TO KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE
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  • HAD THE VISION AND THE COURAGE
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  • TO SAY, "WAIT A MINUTE, I'M
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  • GONNA MAKE A MOVIE.
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  • I'M GONNA BRING PEOPLE THAT
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  • WON'T GO TO CHURCH, WON'T TURN
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  • ON ONE OF MY CRUSADES ON TV.
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  • I'M GONNA MAKE A MOVIE FOR--"
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  • AND HE NEVER WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT
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  • A LITTLE 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL ON THE
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  • CUSP OF WOMANHOOD WOULD BE
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  • SITTING THERE IN THE DARK,
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  • WATCHING THIS MOVIE AND MAKING A
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  • DECISION THAT "I DON'T WANT THE
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  • WORLD'S WAY.
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  • I WANT GOD IN MY LIFE.
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  • I WANNA PARTNER WITH HIM."
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  • I FELT THE LORD SPEAKING SO
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  • CLEARLY TO MY HEART, AND I
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  • DIDN'T HEAR HIM AUDIBLY, BUT YOU
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  • DO IN YOUR SPIRIT, AND HE SAID,
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  • "KATHIE, I LOVE YOU, AND IF YOU
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  • WILL TRUST ME, I WILL MAKE
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  • SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL OUT OF
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  • YOUR LIFE."
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  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
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  • - KATHIE LEE: AND HE DID,
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  • AND HE HAS.
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  • - MATT: SO THE FUN PART ABOUT
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  • TODAY'S BROADCAST IS YOU'RE ON
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  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
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  • WE LOVE JESUS, AND YOU CAN SAY
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  • WHATEVER YOU WANT TO, OKAY?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: THAT DIDN'T STOP
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  • ME AT NBC.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - MATT: WELL, I WAS ABOUT TO
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  • SAY YOU SPENT DECADES DOING
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  • TELEVISION.
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  • SO WHEN DID YOU FIRST-- WHAT WAS
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  • YOUR FIRST TV GIG?
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  • WE KNOW WHAT YOUR LAST ONE WAS.
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  • WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST ONE?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: MY FIRST ONE WAS
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  • WHEN I WAS QUITE YOUNG, AND I'D
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  • WON A CONTEST TO WHO COULD RAISE
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  • THE MOST MONEY FOR MUSCULAR
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  • DYSTROPHY, AND I WON $58.52 BY
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  • HAVING A CARNIVAL IN MY
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  • BACKYARD, AND I WENT ON WITH
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  • WILLARD SCOTT ON NBC'S WTTV IN
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  • WASHINGTON, D.C., AND IT DIDN'T
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  • CHANGE MY LIFE IN ANY WAY, BUT I
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  • FELT VERY COMFORTABLE, AND THEN
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  • MY FIRST BIG BREAK WAS IN 1977,
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  • ON "NAME THAT TUNE," WHEN I WAS
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  • THE LA LA GIRL ON THAT SHOW.
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  • - MATT: WHEN DID YOU GET INTO
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  • DAYTIME TELEVISION, A LA,
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  • KATHIE LEE AND REGIS?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, WHEN I
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  • STARTED AT 1982, I MOVED TO NEW
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  • YORK, FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD
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  • BE ONE YEAR TO DO
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  • "GOOD MORNING AMERICA,"
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  • MET FRANK, MET A REALLY
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  • GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER,
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  • REALLY GOOD GUY.
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  • - MATT: YEAH, I HEARD, YEAH.
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  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, ENDED UP
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  • BEING DEAR FRIENDS WITH HIM FOR
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  • FOUR YEARS AND THEN MARRYING HIM
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  • 29 YEARS BEFORE HE PASSED,
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  • I DID A SHOW--
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  • I LEFT "GOOD MORNING AMERICA"
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  • AFTER THREE YEARS TO DO A SHOW
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  • THAT WAS JUST A LOCAL SHOW IN
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  • NEW YORK, CALLED
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  • "THE MORNING SHOW," WITH REGIS,
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  • BUT I REMEMBER THAT I DIDN'T
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  • WANNA DO "GOOD AMERICA"
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  • ANYMORE BECAUSE I FELT STIFLED.
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  • I MEAN, I WAS KICKED OUT OF THE
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  • BROWNIES WHEN I WAS SIX YEARS OR
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  • EIGHT YEARS OLD, OR WHATEVER.
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  • I WAS KICKED OUT OF THE
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  • "AMERICA'S JUNIOR MISS PAGEANT."
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  • - MATT: WHAT RULES?
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  • YEAH.
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  • - KATHIE LEE: WHAT RULES?
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  • - MATT: YEAH.
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  • - KATHIE LEE: I DON'T LIKE THE
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  • RULES.
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  • GOD'S TEN COMMANDMENTS, I WILL
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  • STICK TO THOSE BABIES.
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  • THEY MAKE SENSE.
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  • MAN'S RULES ARE PHARISEE AND
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  • SADDUCEE STUFF.
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  • WHO MADE UP THAT RULE?
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  • SO I DO TEND TO GET KICKED OUT
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  • OF PLACES.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • IT MAKES LIFE INTERESTING, BUT,
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  • ANYWAY, YEAH, I--
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  • - MATT: WHEN DID IT GO
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  • NATIONAL?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: IN 1985.
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  • - MATT: SO YOU GUYS
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  • GOT SYNDICATED?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: WE WERE THREE
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  • YEARS AS A LOCAL SHOW, AND ALL
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  • OF A SUDDEN, DISNEY TOOK US, AND
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  • THEN WE CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE OF
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  • ALL OF TELEVISION.
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  • - LAURIE: WOW.
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  • - MATT: OKAY, YOU MOVED OVER TO
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  • YOUR LATEST--
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  • - KATHIE LEE: YES, IN 2008.
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  • - MATT: SO "TODAY" SHOW, YOU
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  • THEN-- HOW MANY YEARS WERE
  • 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.210
  • YOU THERE?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: ELEVEN YEARS
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  • WITH HODA.
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  • - MATT: ELEVEN YEARS WITH HER.
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  • - KATHIE LEE: ELEVEN YEARS TO
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  • THE DAY, BASICALLY.
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  • - LAURIE: ISN'T THAT SOMETHIN'?
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  • - KATHIE LEE: GREAT YEARS.
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  • I THOUGHT, AGAIN, I'D STAY
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  • ONE YEAR.
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  • I ALWAYS SIGN YEAR TO YEAR TO
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  • YEAR BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN
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  • YOUR CHILDREN ARE GROWING UP, I
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  • SAID, "I DON'T WANNA BE
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  • COMMITTED TO SOMETHING THAT,
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  • LONG TERM, I SEE AS HURTING
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  • MY FAMILY."
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  • PEOPLE LOOK AT SOMEBODY
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  • LIKE ME, AND THEY THINK
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  • THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT
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  • MY CAREER.
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  • MY CAREER IS THE WAY I MADE
  • 00:06:30.150 --> 00:06:31.070
  • MY LIVING.
  • 00:06:31.070 --> 00:06:32.260
  • MY HOME AND MY CHILDREN AND MY
  • 00:06:32.260 --> 00:06:34.120
  • HUSBAND WAS MY LIFE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.250
  • - MATT: SO LET ME TELL YOU THE
  • 00:06:36.250 --> 00:06:38.070
  • VISUAL I GET SOMETIMES WHEN I
  • 00:06:38.070 --> 00:06:39.130
  • THINK ABOUT YOU.
  • 00:06:39.130 --> 00:06:41.270
  • - KATHIE LEE: OH-OH.
  • 00:06:41.270 --> 00:06:42.140
  • BUCKING BRONCO?
  • 00:06:42.140 --> 00:06:43.160
  • - MATT: IT'S KIND OF LIKE--
  • 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.030
  • NO, IT'S NOT THAT.
  • 00:06:45.030 --> 00:06:46.030
  • IT'S MORE LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A
  • 00:06:46.030 --> 00:06:48.110
  • CAGE OF DOVES AND YOU LET THE
  • 00:06:48.110 --> 00:06:49.180
  • PIGEONS LOOSE, YOU KNOW, AND THE
  • 00:06:49.180 --> 00:06:50.290
  • DOVES GO FLYIN' OUT, YOU HAVE
  • 00:06:50.290 --> 00:06:52.090
  • SOME OF THE QUALITIES OF MY
  • 00:06:52.090 --> 00:06:54.050
  • MOTHER, AND THAT'S A FANTASTIC
  • 00:06:54.050 --> 00:06:55.270
  • COMPLIMENT.
  • 00:06:55.270 --> 00:06:56.280
  • I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
  • 00:06:56.280 --> 00:06:57.170
  • - LAURIE: AND THEY'RE GONNA
  • 00:06:57.170 --> 00:06:58.070
  • LOVE THAT, YEAH.
  • 00:06:58.070 --> 00:06:58.210
  • - MATT: I'M JUST SAYIN',
  • 00:06:58.210 --> 00:06:59.120
  • THEY'RE SO--
  • 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:00.220
  • - LAURIE: THAT CREATIVE AND
  • 00:07:00.220 --> 00:07:01.120
  • NUTTY, RULE-BREAKING--
  • 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: THERE'S A
  • 00:07:03.090 --> 00:07:04.020
  • ZANINESS AND AN ENERGY, AND A
  • 00:07:04.020 --> 00:07:05.270
  • KOOKINESS.
  • 00:07:05.270 --> 00:07:06.140
  • - MATT: YEAH, YES.
  • 00:07:06.140 --> 00:07:07.200
  • - LAURIE: NO RULES.
  • 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:08.150
  • - MATT: HALF AMAZING, HALF
  • 00:07:08.150 --> 00:07:09.150
  • CRAZY, IS KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT
  • 00:07:09.150 --> 00:07:10.110
  • ABOUT MY MOTHER.
  • 00:07:10.110 --> 00:07:11.220
  • SO, LISTEN--
  • 00:07:11.220 --> 00:07:13.240
  • - KATHIE LEE: MY CHILDREN WOULD
  • 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:14.210
  • AGREE WITH YOU.
  • 00:07:14.210 --> 00:07:15.100
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:07:15.100 --> 00:07:16.240
  • TALKING ABOUT IS THE WORD, OKAY?
  • 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.030
  • WE WANT TO--LET ME JUST RUN A
  • 00:07:18.050 --> 00:07:21.050
  • CLIP, AND THAT'LL KIND OF GET
  • 00:07:21.050 --> 00:07:22.220
  • EVERYTHING STARTED.
  • 00:07:22.220 --> 00:07:23.220
  • LET'S START WITH CLIP ONE, AND
  • 00:07:23.270 --> 00:07:26.270
  • THAT'LL SET UP, KIND OF, THIS
  • 00:07:26.270 --> 00:07:28.170
  • PROJECT THAT YOU'RE ALL ABOUT--
  • 00:07:28.170 --> 00:07:30.030
  • THIS BOOK, THE VIDEO, THE
  • 00:07:30.030 --> 00:07:31.060
  • WHOLE THING.
  • 00:07:31.060 --> 00:07:31.240
  • - KATHIE: HI, EVERYBODY.
  • 00:07:39.070 --> 00:07:39.260
  • I'M KATHIE LEE GIFFORD, COMING
  • 00:07:39.260 --> 00:07:40.170
  • TO YOU FROM BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:07:40.170 --> 00:07:41.090
  • JERUSALEM, ISRAEL.
  • 00:07:41.090 --> 00:07:43.140
  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
  • 00:07:43.140 --> 00:07:45.130
  • WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU ON A TRIP
  • 00:07:45.130 --> 00:07:46.040
  • OF A LIFETIME.
  • 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:47.120
  • IN THE NEXT SIX SESSIONS, MY
  • 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:48.180
  • FRIEND RABBI JASON SOBEL AND I
  • 00:07:48.180 --> 00:07:50.230
  • ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THE
  • 00:07:50.230 --> 00:07:52.090
  • SCRIPTURES FOR YOU.
  • 00:07:52.090 --> 00:07:53.080
  • WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU ALL
  • 00:07:53.080 --> 00:07:54.050
  • AROUND ISRAEL.
  • 00:07:54.050 --> 00:07:54.250
  • WE'RE GONNA GET YOU OUT OF THAT
  • 00:07:54.250 --> 00:07:56.120
  • PEW ON SUNDAY MORNING.
  • 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:57.190
  • WE'RE GONNA GET YOU OUT OF
  • 00:07:57.190 --> 00:07:58.190
  • SUNDAY SCHOOL, AND WE ARE GONNA
  • 00:07:58.190 --> 00:08:00.080
  • TAKE YOU OUT OF GRANDMA'S BIBLE
  • 00:08:00.080 --> 00:08:02.110
  • STUDY, AND WE ARE GONNA ROCK
  • 00:08:02.110 --> 00:08:03.170
  • YOUR WORLD WITH WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:08:03.170 --> 00:08:05.000
  • GONNA LEARN FROM THE ORIGINAL
  • 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:06.120
  • HEBREW IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, TO
  • 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.230
  • THE ORIGINAL GREEK IN THE
  • 00:08:07.230 --> 00:08:08.180
  • NEW TESTAMENT.
  • 00:08:08.180 --> 00:08:09.290
  • THE SCRIPTURES ARE GONNA COME
  • 00:08:09.290 --> 00:08:11.150
  • ALIVE TO YOU AS WE REALIZE WHAT
  • 00:08:11.150 --> 00:08:13.120
  • THE BIBLE REALLY SAYS.
  • 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.010
  • THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY BAD
  • 00:08:15.010 --> 00:08:16.130
  • TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE, AND
  • 00:08:16.130 --> 00:08:17.270
  • IT'S CAUSED SO MUCH CONFUSION
  • 00:08:17.270 --> 00:08:20.030
  • AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:08:20.030 --> 00:08:21.290
  • WE'VE GOTTA GET BACK TO WHAT THE
  • 00:08:21.290 --> 00:08:22.210
  • BIBLE ORIGINALLY SAID, IN ORDER
  • 00:08:22.210 --> 00:08:25.000
  • TO UNDERSTAND, IN ORDER TO APPLY
  • 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:26.150
  • IT TO OUR LIVES TODAY.
  • 00:08:26.150 --> 00:08:28.230
  • SO COME WITH US FOR "THE ROCK,
  • 00:08:28.230 --> 00:08:31.050
  • DO YOU WANNA START FROM
  • 00:08:41.100 --> 00:08:42.050
  • THE BEGINNING?
  • 00:08:42.050 --> 00:08:43.230
  • - MATT: OH, I DON'T CARE.
  • 00:08:43.230 --> 00:08:44.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE ROCK IS
  • 00:08:44.170 --> 00:08:45.180
  • JESUS, THE ROAD IS THE HOLY
  • 00:08:45.180 --> 00:08:46.090
  • LAND, AND THE RABBI IS
  • 00:08:46.090 --> 00:08:47.050
  • THE SCRIPTURES--
  • 00:08:47.050 --> 00:08:48.140
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:08:48.140 --> 00:08:49.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: -- THE WAY
  • 00:08:49.140 --> 00:08:50.030
  • THEY'RE TAUGHT BY THE RABBIS IN
  • 00:08:50.030 --> 00:08:51.190
  • THE ORIGINAL GREEK IN THE NEW
  • 00:08:51.190 --> 00:08:53.050
  • TESTAMENT AND ORIGINAL HEBREW IN
  • 00:08:53.050 --> 00:08:54.130
  • THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:08:54.130 --> 00:08:56.280
  • - MATT: SO YOU HAVE A PASSION
  • 00:08:56.280 --> 00:08:57.190
  • TO HELP US MAKE SURE WE
  • 00:08:57.190 --> 00:08:59.170
  • UNDERSTAND ACTUAL SCRIPTURES'
  • 00:08:59.180 --> 00:09:02.200
  • MEANING, AND THAT'S EASY TO DO
  • 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:05.170
  • WHEN YOU HAVE A RABBI FRIEND.
  • 00:09:05.170 --> 00:09:07.030
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, IT'S EASY
  • 00:09:07.030 --> 00:09:09.040
  • TO DO IN TODAY'S WORLD.
  • 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:09.230
  • WE CAN JUST GOOGLE, "WHAT DOES
  • 00:09:09.230 --> 00:09:10.170
  • THAT WORD MEAN IN THE ORIGINAL
  • 00:09:10.170 --> 00:09:12.090
  • GREEK, IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW?"
  • 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:13.200
  • IT WILL BLOW PEOPLE'S MINDS TO
  • 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.180
  • DISCOVER HOW BAD SO MANY
  • 00:09:16.180 --> 00:09:18.180
  • TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE ARE.
  • 00:09:18.180 --> 00:09:21.120
  • - MATT: CAN I TELL YOU ONE I
  • 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:22.030
  • AND I HOPE IT'S ACCURATE.
  • 00:09:24.040 --> 00:09:24.230
  • YOU CAN CORRECT ME RIGHT HERE,
  • 00:09:24.230 --> 00:09:25.210
  • RIGHT NOW IF I'M WRONG--
  • 00:09:25.210 --> 00:09:26.100
  • - LAURIE: SHE WILL, NO WORRIES.
  • 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:27.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:28.030
  • - MATT: -- BUT I HEARD-- AND
  • 00:09:28.030 --> 00:09:29.150
  • NOW I'M WONDERING IF IT WAS--
  • 00:09:29.150 --> 00:09:31.000
  • WHERE I HEARD IT, BUT, ANYWAY, I
  • 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.020
  • HEARD IT FROM SOMEBODY I THOUGHT
  • 00:09:33.020 --> 00:09:34.070
  • WAS ACCURATE-- SAID THAT THE
  • 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:36.050
  • COMMANDMENT THAT SAYS "DON'T
  • 00:09:36.050 --> 00:09:37.250
  • TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD IN
  • 00:09:37.250 --> 00:09:39.030
  • VAIN," THE WORD "TAKE" IS "TO
  • 00:09:39.030 --> 00:09:41.060
  • CARRY WITH," NOT TO-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:09:41.060 --> 00:09:43.040
  • IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE THING.
  • 00:09:43.040 --> 00:09:45.180
  • IT'S "TO CARRY WITH," SO THE
  • 00:09:45.180 --> 00:09:46.250
  • CONNOTATION IS "DON'T BE A
  • 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:49.080
  • HYPOCRITE," "DON'T WEAR A COLLAR
  • 00:09:49.130 --> 00:09:52.130
  • AND ABUSE CHILDREN," SEE?
  • 00:09:52.130 --> 00:09:54.200
  • THAT IS TAKING THE NAME OF THE
  • 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.070
  • LORD IN VAIN.
  • 00:09:56.070 --> 00:09:56.220
  • YOU ARE USING RELIGION TO DO
  • 00:09:56.270 --> 00:09:59.270
  • SOMETHING WRONG.
  • 00:09:59.270 --> 00:10:01.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: TO PROFIT FROM
  • 00:10:01.210 --> 00:10:02.120
  • IT.
  • 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:02.200
  • - MATT: OKAY, "PROFIT FROM."
  • 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:03.220
  • - KATHIE LEE: JUST LIKE NOBODY
  • 00:10:03.220 --> 00:10:05.100
  • GOT ANGRIER AT THE RELIGIOSITY
  • 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:06.240
  • OF THE CULTURE MORE THAN JESUS
  • 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:07.190
  • DID AT THE PHARISEES AND THE
  • 00:10:07.190 --> 00:10:09.010
  • SADDUCEES FOR DOING THAT VERY
  • 00:10:09.010 --> 00:10:09.280
  • SAME THING.
  • 00:10:09.280 --> 00:10:10.190
  • - MATT: SO WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE
  • 00:10:10.190 --> 00:10:11.110
  • STUFF?
  • 00:10:11.110 --> 00:10:11.240
  • WHICH ONE POPS TO YOUR HEAD
  • 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:12.290
  • AND--
  • 00:10:12.290 --> 00:10:13.270
  • - KATHIE LEE: "WHO'S YOUR
  • 00:10:13.270 --> 00:10:14.160
  • FAVORITE CHILD?"
  • 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:15.140
  • YOU CAN'T EVEN-- MY LIFE'S
  • 00:10:15.140 --> 00:10:17.270
  • SCRIPTURE, I THINK, IS "I CAN DO
  • 00:10:17.270 --> 00:10:19.050
  • ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO
  • 00:10:19.050 --> 00:10:20.000
  • STRENGTHENS ME," PHILIPPIANS
  • 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:21.040
  • 4:13, BUT THE TRUTH IS, SOMEBODY
  • 00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:23.210
  • JUST SAID TO ME THE OTHER DAY,
  • 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:25.040
  • "YOU KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL WORD
  • 00:10:25.040 --> 00:10:26.110
  • IN PHILIPPIANS FOR THAT IS IN
  • 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:28.260
  • THE GREEK?"
  • 00:10:28.260 --> 00:10:30.050
  • AND I SAID, "IT ISN'T 'THINGS'?"
  • 00:10:30.050 --> 00:10:31.110
  • HE SAID, "NO, IT'S 'SEASONS.'"
  • 00:10:31.110 --> 00:10:33.140
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS, ISN'T
  • 00:10:33.140 --> 00:10:34.190
  • THAT AWESOME?
  • 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:36.190
  • - KATHIE LEE: "I CAN DO ALL
  • 00:10:36.190 --> 00:10:37.150
  • SEASONS OF MY LIFE--"
  • 00:10:37.150 --> 00:10:38.050
  • - MATT: GOOD, BAD, WOW.
  • 00:10:38.050 --> 00:10:38.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: -- "THROUGH
  • 00:10:38.230 --> 00:10:39.200
  • CHRIST," WHATEVER, "THROUGH
  • 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:40.100
  • CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME."
  • 00:10:40.100 --> 00:10:41.160
  • - LAURIE: OH, I LIKE THAT.
  • 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:42.180
  • - KATHIE LEE: SEE, AND I
  • 00:10:42.180 --> 00:10:43.250
  • THOUGHT-- I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:10:43.250 --> 00:10:44.140
  • EVERYTHING.
  • 00:10:44.140 --> 00:10:45.020
  • THAT'S THE THRILL OF BEING A
  • 00:10:45.020 --> 00:10:45.220
  • STUDENT OF THE WORD.
  • 00:10:45.220 --> 00:10:46.080
  • - MATT: THAT'S FANTASTIC, BY
  • 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:47.130
  • THE WAY.
  • 00:10:47.130 --> 00:10:48.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: ISN'T THAT COOL?
  • 00:10:48.140 --> 00:10:49.110
  • - LAURIE: ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL?
  • 00:10:49.110 --> 00:10:50.030
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH.
  • 00:10:50.030 --> 00:10:51.000
  • - LAURIE: BOY, WE COULD USE
  • 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:51.200
  • THAT.
  • 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:52.020
  • THAT'LL PREACH, WON'T IT?
  • 00:10:52.020 --> 00:10:53.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, I'M IN A
  • 00:10:53.010 --> 00:10:53.220
  • BRAND-NEW SEASON OF MY LIFE NOW.
  • 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:54.180
  • THIS IS A GLORIOUS AND JOYOUS
  • 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:55.290
  • ONE.
  • 00:10:55.290 --> 00:10:57.130
  • - MATT: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?
  • 00:10:57.130 --> 00:10:58.040
  • HUH?
  • 00:10:58.040 --> 00:10:58.130
  • WHY?
  • 00:10:58.130 --> 00:10:59.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:10:59.090 --> 00:10:59.290
  • REASONS.
  • 00:10:59.290 --> 00:11:00.110
  • I HAVE A NEW LIFE HERE.
  • 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:00.290
  • I HAVE A NEW COMMUNITY, A NEW--
  • 00:11:00.290 --> 00:11:03.230
  • - MATT: WHAT ALL IS NEW IN YOUR
  • 00:11:03.230 --> 00:11:04.270
  • LIFE, KATHIE LEE?
  • 00:11:04.270 --> 00:11:06.030
  • - KATHIE LEE: LOTS, AND WE'LL
  • 00:11:06.030 --> 00:11:07.140
  • GET INTO IT AS WE UNPACK THE
  • 00:11:07.140 --> 00:11:08.040
  • SCRIPTURES.
  • 00:11:08.040 --> 00:11:09.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:09.050 --> 00:11:09.290
  • I AM JUST FULL OF JOY.
  • 00:11:09.290 --> 00:11:12.230
  • - MATT: YOU SEEM A LITTLE
  • 00:11:12.230 --> 00:11:13.280
  • HAPPIER THAN NORMAL TODAY.
  • 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:14.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: STOP IT.
  • 00:11:14.170 --> 00:11:15.050
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:11:15.050 --> 00:11:15.180
  • - KATHIE LEE: ALL RIGHT, I'M
  • 00:11:15.180 --> 00:11:17.040
  • DATING SOMEBODY.
  • 00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:17.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:17.180 --> 00:11:19.150
  • - LAURIE: YOU SUCKER, YOU DID
  • 00:11:19.150 --> 00:11:20.160
  • IT.
  • 00:11:20.160 --> 00:11:21.020
  • - MATT: YOU TOOK THE BAIT.
  • 00:11:21.020 --> 00:11:21.280
  • - KATHIE LEE: I CAN'T BELIEVE
  • 00:11:21.280 --> 00:11:23.010
  • I'M SAYIN' THE WORD "DATING."
  • 00:11:23.010 --> 00:11:23.220
  • - MATT: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:24.080
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, YOU'RE
  • 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:24.280
  • GONNA DRIVE ME CRAZY.
  • 00:11:24.280 --> 00:11:25.200
  • I WANNA GET BACK TO THE WORD.
  • 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:26.110
  • - LAURIE: OH, LET'S GET BACK TO
  • 00:11:26.110 --> 00:11:27.030
  • THE WORD.
  • 00:11:27.030 --> 00:11:27.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: NO, HE'S A-- I
  • 00:11:27.140 --> 00:11:28.130
  • HAVEN'T HAD A-- FIRST DATE I'VE
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:29.190
  • HAD IN 35 YEARS.
  • 00:11:29.190 --> 00:11:31.020
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:11:31.020 --> 00:11:32.240
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, I MARRIED
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.150
  • FRANK IN 1986.
  • 00:11:33.150 --> 00:11:34.220
  • - LAURIE: NEVER WENT ON A
  • 00:11:34.220 --> 00:11:35.170
  • DATE AGAIN.
  • 00:11:35.170 --> 00:11:36.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, I WAS
  • 00:11:36.020 --> 00:11:36.290
  • MARRIED, SO IT'S
  • 00:11:36.290 --> 00:11:37.230
  • JUST PROBLEMATIC.
  • 00:11:37.230 --> 00:11:38.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:39.180
  • - MATT: WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
  • 00:11:39.180 --> 00:11:40.170
  • - LAURIE: WE DON'T HAVE DATE
  • 00:11:40.170 --> 00:11:41.080
  • NIGHT EITHER.
  • 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:42.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:42.210 --> 00:11:43.150
  • - KATHIE LEE: FRANK DIDN'T WANT
  • 00:11:43.150 --> 00:11:44.070
  • ME TO.
  • 00:11:44.070 --> 00:11:44.170
  • HE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT SO--
  • 00:11:44.170 --> 00:11:45.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:47.100
  • AND THEN IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS
  • 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:48.140
  • SINCE THE LORD TOOK FRANK HOME,
  • 00:11:48.140 --> 00:11:50.080
  • AND I WAS GRIEVING, YOU KNOW, AS
  • 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:53.190
  • YOU DO, AND I DIDN'T MEET
  • 00:11:55.030 --> 00:11:58.030
  • ANYBODY THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN
  • 00:11:58.030 --> 00:11:59.160
  • OR ATTRACTED TO OR FELT
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:01.290
  • COMFORTABLE WITH, AND ALL OF A
  • 00:12:01.290 --> 00:12:03.240
  • SUDDEN, I WENT TO HEAR A BAND
  • 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.240
  • PLAY HERE IN NASHVILLE, AND A
  • 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.120
  • CUTE GUY SMILED AT ME AND ASKED
  • 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.250
  • ME TO DANCE AND--
  • 00:12:08.250 --> 00:12:11.120
  • - MATT: REST IS-- I'M HOT ALL
  • 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.030
  • OF A SUDDEN SO--
  • 00:12:12.030 --> 00:12:13.130
  • - KATHIE LEE: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:12:13.130 --> 00:12:14.270
  • HE'S ONE OF THE GODLIEST GUYS
  • 00:12:14.270 --> 00:12:17.020
  • I'VE EVER MET, AND I'VE NEVER
  • 00:12:17.020 --> 00:12:19.180
  • HAD THAT, REALLY, IN MY--
  • 00:12:19.180 --> 00:12:20.070
  • - LAURIE: HE'S VERY PROTECTIVE.
  • 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:21.050
  • - KATHIE LEE: NO, HE LOVES
  • 00:12:21.050 --> 00:12:22.230
  • JESUS, AND HE'S INTRODUCED ME TO
  • 00:12:22.230 --> 00:12:25.120
  • HIS CHURCH, WHICH I HAD NEVER
  • 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.010
  • FOUND A CHURCH IN AMERICA
  • 00:12:27.010 --> 00:12:28.220
  • THAT I LOVED.
  • 00:12:28.220 --> 00:12:30.040
  • - MATT: OKAY, WE'RE
  • 00:12:30.040 --> 00:12:30.210
  • IN NASHVILLE.
  • 00:12:30.210 --> 00:12:31.070
  • IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, THIS IS
  • 00:12:31.070 --> 00:12:31.280
  • KATHIE LEE.
  • 00:12:31.280 --> 00:12:32.120
  • YOU KNOW HER.
  • 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.110
  • WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT
  • 00:12:34.110 --> 00:12:35.020
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:12:35.020 --> 00:12:35.120
  • WHICH IS KIND OF A PHENOMENON.
  • 00:12:39.020 --> 00:12:40.140
  • YOU KNOW, YOU WERE SURPRISED BY
  • 00:12:40.140 --> 00:12:41.110
  • ITS SUCCESS.
  • 00:12:41.110 --> 00:12:41.240
  • - KATHIE LEE: YES, NOBODY WAS
  • 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:42.150
  • MORE SURPRISED THAN I WAS, YES.
  • 00:12:42.150 --> 00:12:43.070
  • IT'S-- YEAH.
  • 00:12:43.070 --> 00:12:43.190
  • - MATT: SO WHEN YOU BREAK IT
  • 00:12:43.210 --> 00:12:46.210
  • DOWN, WHAT ARE YOU REALLY SAYING
  • 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:48.160
  • IN THIS?
  • 00:12:48.160 --> 00:12:49.210
  • WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN SOMEBODY
  • 00:12:49.210 --> 00:12:51.060
  • GETS IT AND READS IT?
  • 00:12:51.060 --> 00:12:51.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: I'M SAYING THAT
  • 00:12:51.230 --> 00:12:52.290
  • WE'VE BEEN DOING "RELIGION,"
  • 00:12:52.290 --> 00:12:54.270
  • NOT "RELATIONSHIP."
  • 00:12:54.270 --> 00:12:55.250
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:12:55.250 --> 00:12:56.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: RELIGION IS NOT
  • 00:12:56.230 --> 00:12:58.240
  • WHAT GOD EVER INTENDED FOR US.
  • 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.140
  • WHAT DID HE CALL ABRAHAM?
  • 00:13:00.140 --> 00:13:01.240
  • "A FRIEND OF GOD."
  • 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.260
  • "FRIEND OF GOD."
  • 00:13:03.260 --> 00:13:05.160
  • GOD WANTS US TO KNOW
  • 00:13:05.160 --> 00:13:06.120
  • HIM INTIMATELY.
  • 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:07.150
  • HE WANTS US TO
  • 00:13:07.150 --> 00:13:08.170
  • HAVE RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:13:08.170 --> 00:13:10.100
  • WHEN DAVID THREW THE STONE WHILE
  • 00:13:10.100 --> 00:13:11.220
  • THE ISRAELITE ARMY AND KING SAUL
  • 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:13.210
  • WERE COWERING IN TERROR,
  • 00:13:13.270 --> 00:13:16.270
  • WHY WERE THEY DOING THAT?
  • 00:13:16.270 --> 00:13:18.000
  • WHY WAS LITTLE 12- OR
  • 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:18.170
  • 13-YEAR-OLD DAVID GOING DOWN,
  • 00:13:18.280 --> 00:13:21.280
  • GETTIN' HIS STONE AND READY TO--
  • 00:13:21.280 --> 00:13:23.030
  • "I COME BEFORE YOU," YOU KNOW,
  • 00:13:23.030 --> 00:13:24.270
  • "YOU WHO HAVE DEFIED THE
  • 00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:27.200
  • GOD OF ISRAEL."
  • 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:28.040
  • WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
  • 00:13:28.040 --> 00:13:30.080
  • BETWEEN THIS LITTLE KID AND THE
  • 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.180
  • ONES, 40 DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS,
  • 00:13:32.030 --> 00:13:35.030
  • COWERING IN FRONT OF GOLIATH?
  • 00:13:35.030 --> 00:13:35.240
  • THEY DIDN'T HAVE RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:13:40.090 --> 00:13:41.060
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:13:41.060 --> 00:13:41.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: HE KNEW GOD
  • 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:43.010
  • INTIMATELY ALL THOSE YEARS AS A
  • 00:13:43.010 --> 00:13:44.050
  • LITTLE SHEPHERD BOY.
  • 00:13:44.050 --> 00:13:44.280
  • HE HAD KILLED LIONS AND
  • 00:13:44.280 --> 00:13:46.140
  • BEARS ALREADY.
  • 00:13:46.140 --> 00:13:48.190
  • GOLIATH WAS-- [SPUTTERING]
  • 00:13:48.190 --> 00:13:49.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:50.130
  • AND WHAT WE KNOW FROM SCRIPTURES
  • 00:13:50.130 --> 00:13:51.160
  • IS, IT WAS NOTHIN'.
  • 00:13:51.160 --> 00:13:52.230
  • IT WAS A DAY'S WORK FOR
  • 00:13:52.230 --> 00:13:53.160
  • LITTLE DAVID.
  • 00:13:53.160 --> 00:13:55.030
  • DAVID THREW IT, KNOWING THAT HE
  • 00:13:55.030 --> 00:13:56.130
  • ALREADY STOOD IN VICTORY BECAUSE
  • 00:13:56.130 --> 00:13:57.120
  • HE HAD ALREADY ALWAYS STOOD IN
  • 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:58.110
  • VICTORY.
  • 00:13:58.110 --> 00:13:59.290
  • HE KNEW WHAT HIS GIFTS WERE.
  • 00:13:59.290 --> 00:14:01.090
  • HE WAS COMMITTED TO USING HIS
  • 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:03.030
  • GIFTS FOR GOD'S GLORY.
  • 00:14:03.030 --> 00:14:04.120
  • HE WAS ANGRY, RIGHTEOUSLY
  • 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.240
  • ANGERED THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DEFY
  • 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.210
  • THE GOD OF ISRAEL, SO WHEN
  • 00:14:08.210 --> 00:14:10.040
  • GOLIATH IS HIT BY THE STONE, YOU
  • 00:14:10.110 --> 00:14:13.110
  • KNOW, PHYSICS TELLS YOU THAT YOU
  • 00:14:13.140 --> 00:14:16.140
  • WOULD FALL BACKWARDS FROM THAT,
  • 00:14:16.140 --> 00:14:17.100
  • BUT HE STUMBLED, AND WHAT DID HE
  • 00:14:17.100 --> 00:14:19.080
  • DO?
  • 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:20.180
  • HE FELL FORWARD.
  • 00:14:20.180 --> 00:14:21.250
  • IN ANCIENT TIMES, THAT MEANS, "I
  • 00:14:21.250 --> 00:14:22.170
  • BOW TO THE GREATER GOD."
  • 00:14:22.170 --> 00:14:24.060
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:14:24.060 --> 00:14:25.040
  • - LAURIE: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
  • 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:26.070
  • - KATHIE LEE: I LOVE THAT
  • 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:27.120
  • STUFF.
  • 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:27.260
  • - LAURIE: OKAY, SO YOU HAVE AN
  • 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:28.180
  • AMAZING STORY ABOUT THE ROCK,
  • 00:14:28.180 --> 00:14:29.090
  • AND HOW IT CHANGED YOUR, AND
  • 00:14:29.090 --> 00:14:30.250
  • FRANK'S-- KIND OF, THE WHOLE--
  • 00:14:30.250 --> 00:14:33.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: YES, WELL IT
  • 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:35.280
  • WAS--
  • 00:14:35.280 --> 00:14:36.180
  • - LAURIE: TELL THAT STORY.
  • 00:14:36.180 --> 00:14:37.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: THAT STORY, WHAT
  • 00:14:37.170 --> 00:14:38.090
  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK--
  • 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:39.020
  • - LAURIE: SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:14:39.020 --> 00:14:40.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: FRANK, WHO HAD
  • 00:14:40.020 --> 00:14:40.230
  • GROWN UP IN A PENTECOSTAL
  • 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:42.100
  • CHURCH, ASSEMBLIES OF GOD, AND
  • 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:43.230
  • GONE--
  • 00:14:43.230 --> 00:14:45.260
  • - MATT: REALLY?
  • 00:14:45.260 --> 00:14:46.100
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, AND WE KNOW
  • 00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:47.140
  • THAT FROM HIS PARENTS.
  • 00:14:47.140 --> 00:14:48.200
  • HIS MOTHER'S BIBLE, I HAVE IT.
  • 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:49.120
  • HE LIVED 29 DIFFERENT PLACES
  • 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.160
  • BEFORE HE WAS EVEN IN HIGH
  • 00:14:51.160 --> 00:14:53.040
  • SCHOOL BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS AN
  • 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:54.020
  • ITINERATE OIL WORKER, AND YOU
  • 00:14:54.020 --> 00:14:55.130
  • JUST WENT DURING THE DEPRESSION.
  • 00:14:55.130 --> 00:14:56.240
  • IT WAS LIKE "THE GRAPES OF
  • 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.060
  • WRATH."
  • 00:14:58.060 --> 00:14:58.190
  • YOU WENT WHERE THE WORK WAS.
  • 00:14:58.190 --> 00:14:59.280
  • AND IT WOULD BREAK YOUR HEART.
  • 00:14:59.280 --> 00:15:02.020
  • SHE MADE NOTES, AND IT WOULD
  • 00:15:02.020 --> 00:15:03.150
  • SAY, "ARRIVED IN WINK, TEXAS.
  • 00:15:03.150 --> 00:15:06.090
  • DAD CAN'T FIND WORK.
  • 00:15:06.090 --> 00:15:07.010
  • MOVIN', GONIN' ON TO
  • 00:15:07.010 --> 00:15:08.260
  • OKLAHOMA CITY TOMORROW,"
  • 00:15:08.260 --> 00:15:09.140
  • I MEAN, JUST THAT KIND
  • 00:15:09.140 --> 00:15:10.080
  • OF STUFF, AND FRANK SAID,
  • 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.170
  • "I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE POOR."
  • 00:15:12.170 --> 00:15:13.080
  • HE SAID, "ONE TIME, EVERY TOWN
  • 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:15.160
  • WE WENT TO FOR DAD TO FIND WORK,
  • 00:15:15.160 --> 00:15:17.280
  • WE'D GET IN A SCHOOL, AND WE'D
  • 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:19.000
  • FIND AN ASSEMBLIES OF GOD
  • 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.100
  • CHURCH, AND WE WOULD JUST
  • 00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:21.270
  • START-- THEN THAT SAVED OUR LIFE
  • 00:15:21.270 --> 00:15:24.240
  • WAS THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD
  • 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.160
  • CHURCHES EVERYWHERE,"
  • 00:15:26.160 --> 00:15:28.050
  • BUT HE SAID,
  • 00:15:28.050 --> 00:15:28.200
  • "ONE DAY, EVERYONE, THEY
  • 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.060
  • TOOK UP AN OFFERING FOR THE POOR
  • 00:15:30.160 --> 00:15:33.160
  • PEOPLE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A
  • 00:15:33.160 --> 00:15:34.280
  • BASKET, SOMETHING ON
  • 00:15:34.280 --> 00:15:35.250
  • THANKSGIVING,"
  • 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:38.120
  • OR ONE OF THOSE HOLIDAYS,
  • 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.030
  • AND FRANK SAID, "I NEVER
  • 00:15:39.030 --> 00:15:40.120
  • THOUGHT WE WERE POOR UNTIL,
  • 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:41.190
  • ONE MORNING, WHEREVER WE
  • 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:43.030
  • WERE LIVIN', THERE WAS
  • 00:15:43.030 --> 00:15:43.250
  • A BASKET."
  • 00:15:43.250 --> 00:15:45.260
  • HE SAID, "I FOUND A NICKEL.
  • 00:15:45.260 --> 00:15:46.180
  • I HAD A NICKEL, AND I PUT IT
  • 00:15:46.180 --> 00:15:48.110
  • IN," AND HE SAID-- AND NOW IT
  • 00:15:48.110 --> 00:15:50.000
  • BREAKS MY HEART TO THINK OF IT
  • 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:51.050
  • 'CAUSE PEOPLE THINK OF FRANK AS
  • 00:15:51.050 --> 00:15:52.110
  • JUST THIS-- THE GLORY GAME,
  • 00:15:52.110 --> 00:15:54.000
  • THE GLORY GUY FROM
  • 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.050
  • SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA,
  • 00:15:56.050 --> 00:15:56.250
  • SUN-KISSED AND,
  • 00:15:56.250 --> 00:15:57.140
  • YOU KNOW, SPOON-FED.
  • 00:15:57.140 --> 00:15:58.240
  • HE GOES, "WE DIDN'T
  • 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:01.200
  • HAVE SPOONS."
  • 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:02.090
  • THEY ATE DOG FOOD, AND HE WAS
  • 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:03.160
  • GRATEFUL FOR IT MANY TIMES.
  • 00:16:03.160 --> 00:16:05.010
  • SO HE SAID,
  • 00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:07.220
  • "THERE WAS A BASKET,"
  • 00:16:07.220 --> 00:16:08.190
  • AND HE SAID, "THAT'S
  • 00:16:08.190 --> 00:16:09.060
  • WHEN I KNEW WE WERE POOR."
  • 00:16:09.060 --> 00:16:10.140
  • SO, BECAUSE HIS PARENTS
  • 00:16:10.140 --> 00:16:11.180
  • SACRIFICED EVERYTHING FOR
  • 00:16:11.180 --> 00:16:13.010
  • HIM AND HIS SISTER AND
  • 00:16:13.010 --> 00:16:14.130
  • HIS BROTHER, SO FRANK
  • 00:16:14.130 --> 00:16:15.020
  • KNEW HUNGER,
  • 00:16:15.020 --> 00:16:17.170
  • FRANK KNEW DEPRESSION,
  • 00:16:17.170 --> 00:16:20.030
  • FRANK KNEW HARDSHIP,
  • 00:16:20.030 --> 00:16:22.070
  • FRANK KNEW HARD WORK.
  • 00:16:22.070 --> 00:16:23.030
  • HE WAS THE FIRST GIFFORD TO EVER
  • 00:16:23.030 --> 00:16:24.170
  • GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL,
  • 00:16:24.170 --> 00:16:26.070
  • MUCH LESS GO TO COLLEGE,
  • 00:16:26.070 --> 00:16:26.280
  • 'CAUSE "REAL MEN DON'T PLAY
  • 00:16:26.280 --> 00:16:28.120
  • A SISSY GAME CALLED FOOTBALL.
  • 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.050
  • REAL MEN GO INTO THE
  • 00:16:31.050 --> 00:16:31.260
  • OIL FIELDS."
  • 00:16:31.260 --> 00:16:32.230
  • - LAURIE: WOW.
  • 00:16:32.230 --> 00:16:34.050
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND LOOK HOW GOD
  • 00:16:34.050 --> 00:16:34.270
  • USED HIM, BUT FRANK THOUGHT HE,
  • 00:16:34.270 --> 00:16:36.090
  • 'CAUSE HE'D GROWN UP IN THE
  • 00:16:36.090 --> 00:16:37.250
  • CHURCH, HE KNEW THE WORD.
  • 00:16:37.250 --> 00:16:38.180
  • LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE RIGHT
  • 00:16:38.180 --> 00:16:40.190
  • NOW THINK THAT, 'CAUSE YOU'VE
  • 00:16:40.190 --> 00:16:41.210
  • GROWN UP IN THE CHURCH, YOU
  • 00:16:41.210 --> 00:16:42.290
  • DON'T NEED TO STUDY THE BIBLE,
  • 00:16:42.290 --> 00:16:44.040
  • YOU KNOW THE BIBLE, YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:44.260
  • GOIN' TO CHURCH SERVICES ALL
  • 00:16:44.260 --> 00:16:45.260
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:16:45.260 --> 00:16:47.040
  • LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHIN': IF
  • 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:48.150
  • YOU DON'T KNOW THE GREEK-- I
  • 00:16:48.150 --> 00:16:50.030
  • DON'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO STUDY IT,
  • 00:16:50.030 --> 00:16:51.170
  • TO KNOW GREEK TO-- NO, JUST
  • 00:16:51.170 --> 00:16:53.070
  • STUDY WHAT IT SAYS IN THE GREEK,
  • 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:54.260
  • AND YOU DON'T THE HEBREW, YOU DO
  • 00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:56.140
  • NOT KNOW THE BIBLE.
  • 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:58.110
  • I DIDN'T, AND WE WENT IN 2012,
  • 00:16:58.110 --> 00:17:00.260
  • AND I'VE BEEN STUDYING IT SINCE
  • 00:17:00.260 --> 00:17:02.100
  • I WAS A 12-YEAR-OLD LITTLE GIRL,
  • 00:17:02.100 --> 00:17:03.140
  • BEEN TO ISRAEL SINCE I WAS 17,
  • 00:17:03.140 --> 00:17:04.280
  • ALL THE TIME GOING TO ISRAEL,
  • 00:17:04.280 --> 00:17:06.090
  • STUDYING.
  • 00:17:06.090 --> 00:17:07.130
  • I DIDN'T KNOW IT UNTIL I STARTED
  • 00:17:07.130 --> 00:17:09.250
  • READING IT IN ITS ORIGINAL TEXT.
  • 00:17:09.250 --> 00:17:12.240
  • IT IS-- JESUS WAS NOT
  • 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:13.210
  • A CARPENTER.
  • 00:17:13.210 --> 00:17:15.150
  • IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
  • 00:17:15.150 --> 00:17:16.110
  • IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, WHERE IT
  • 00:17:19.060 --> 00:17:20.000
  • TALKS ABOUT WHAT JOSEPH AND
  • 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:20.200
  • JESUS DID BEFORE JESUS BECAME A
  • 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.010
  • RABBI WHEN HE WAS 30, SAID THAT
  • 00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:25.210
  • EVERYBODY THINKS HE WAS
  • 00:17:25.210 --> 00:17:27.150
  • A CARPENTER.
  • 00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:29.140
  • WELL, THAT'S A BAD TRANSLATION
  • 00:17:29.140 --> 00:17:31.110
  • IN THE KING JAMES VERSION OF
  • 00:17:31.110 --> 00:17:32.170
  • ENGLISH GUYS WHO HAD NEVER BEEN
  • 00:17:32.170 --> 00:17:34.070
  • TO ISRAEL, DIDN'T KNOW THE
  • 00:17:34.070 --> 00:17:35.130
  • HISTORY OF ISRAEL AND WERE
  • 00:17:35.130 --> 00:17:36.150
  • TRYING TO PLEASE A DIFFERENT
  • 00:17:36.150 --> 00:17:38.050
  • KING, A WORLDLY KING,
  • 00:17:38.050 --> 00:17:40.030
  • KING JAMES,
  • 00:17:40.030 --> 00:17:41.130
  • AS OPPOSED TO OUR--
  • 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:42.100
  • THE KING OF KINGS,
  • 00:17:42.100 --> 00:17:43.270
  • AND THEY SAID,
  • 00:17:43.270 --> 00:17:45.270
  • "OH, THE WORD IS 'TEKTON.'
  • 00:17:45.270 --> 00:17:48.000
  • WELL, WE KNOW THAT MEANS
  • 00:17:48.080 --> 00:17:51.080
  • 'ARCHITECT/BUILDER.'
  • 00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:53.070
  • OKAY, SO, ALL RIGHT,
  • 00:17:53.070 --> 00:17:54.000
  • HE WAS A CARPENTER LIKE US
  • 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:54.190
  • IN ENGLAND."
  • 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:57.160
  • WELL, THE TROUBLE IS THE
  • 00:17:57.160 --> 00:17:58.210
  • TREES THAT ARE BIG NOW
  • 00:17:58.210 --> 00:18:00.140
  • WERE LITERALLY PLANTED
  • 00:18:00.140 --> 00:18:02.000
  • SINCE ISRAEL BECAME A NATION.
  • 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.250
  • ISRAEL IS A DESERT.
  • 00:18:03.250 --> 00:18:06.090
  • IT'S A DESERT, AND THERE WERE NO
  • 00:18:06.090 --> 00:18:07.280
  • BUILDABLE TREES IN FIRST
  • 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:09.240
  • WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE SCRIPTURE
  • 00:18:12.050 --> 00:18:12.280
  • TELLS US THAT ALL OF THE TIMBER
  • 00:18:12.280 --> 00:18:15.160
  • FOR ALL OF HEROD'S CONSTRUCTION
  • 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.060
  • PROJECTS WERE TAKEN FROM WHERE?
  • 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:20.200
  • THE CEDARS OF LEBANON, CUT DOWN,
  • 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.130
  • BROUGHT INTO-- MADE INTO RAFTS,
  • 00:18:23.130 --> 00:18:25.080
  • FLOATED ALONG THE VIA MARIS,
  • 00:18:25.080 --> 00:18:27.120
  • ALONG THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA,
  • 00:18:27.120 --> 00:18:28.100
  • THAT BEAUTIFUL COASTLINE,
  • 00:18:28.100 --> 00:18:29.150
  • TAKEN DOWN TO JOPPA,
  • 00:18:29.150 --> 00:18:31.170
  • WHICH IS NOW
  • 00:18:31.170 --> 00:18:32.220
  • MODERN-DAY TEL AVIV,
  • 00:18:32.220 --> 00:18:33.140
  • TAKEN APART,
  • 00:18:33.140 --> 00:18:34.150
  • AND THEN CARRIED OVER LAND
  • 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:36.230
  • TO HEROD'S VARIOUS
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:38.270
  • CONSTRUCTION SITES.
  • 00:18:38.270 --> 00:18:40.050
  • SO IF JESUS WAS NOT A CARPENTER,
  • 00:18:40.050 --> 00:18:42.130
  • I MEAN, HE WORKED WITH BALSAM,
  • 00:18:42.130 --> 00:18:45.020
  • HE WORKED WITH SYCAMORE,
  • 00:18:45.020 --> 00:18:46.080
  • HE PROBABLY WORKED WITH
  • 00:18:46.080 --> 00:18:46.260
  • OLIVE TREES AND MAKING
  • 00:18:46.260 --> 00:18:48.040
  • SMALL THINGS,
  • 00:18:48.040 --> 00:18:50.030
  • BUT THAT'S A CRAFTSMAN
  • 00:18:50.030 --> 00:18:50.200
  • MORE THAN A--
  • 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:51.100
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:18:51.100 --> 00:18:53.290
  • - LAURIE: IT'S A WHITTLER.
  • 00:18:53.290 --> 00:18:54.190
  • - KATHIE LEE: IT'S A WHITTLER,
  • 00:18:54.190 --> 00:18:55.110
  • THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:55.110 --> 00:18:55.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:56.160
  • JESUS-- AND THIS ROCKED MY BOAT.
  • 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:57.190
  • THIS CHANGED MY LIFE,
  • 00:18:57.190 --> 00:18:58.120
  • DISCOVERING THAT JESUS WAS A
  • 00:18:58.120 --> 00:18:59.240
  • STONE MASON.
  • 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.040
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL, WOW.
  • 00:19:02.040 --> 00:19:03.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: "UPON THIS ROCK,
  • 00:19:03.020 --> 00:19:04.220
  • I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH."
  • 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:06.020
  • "THE ROCK THAT THE
  • 00:19:06.110 --> 00:19:09.110
  • BUILDERS REJECTED HAS
  • 00:19:09.110 --> 00:19:09.280
  • BECOME THE CORNERSTONE."
  • 00:19:09.280 --> 00:19:12.020
  • "HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN,
  • 00:19:12.020 --> 00:19:13.020
  • CAST THE FIRST STONE."
  • 00:19:13.020 --> 00:19:15.040
  • YOU'LL NEVER READ THE
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:15.210
  • SCRIPTURES AGAIN,
  • 00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:16.190
  • UNDERSTANDING THAT JESUS WORKED
  • 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:17.110
  • WITH STONES.
  • 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:18.160
  • STONY HEARTS HE WORKS WITH NOW,
  • 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.130
  • ALL OUR STONE-HARD HEARTS,
  • 00:19:20.130 --> 00:19:22.230
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:19:22.230 --> 00:19:24.050
  • IT'S THRILLING TO FIND OUT WHAT
  • 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:26.190
  • IT REALLY MEANS.
  • 00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:27.250
  • IT SET MY HEART ABLAZE AGAIN FOR
  • 00:19:27.250 --> 00:19:30.140
  • THE SCRIPTURES.
  • 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:32.020
  • MY FAITH HAD BECOME STALE AND
  • 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:34.100
  • LUKEWARM LIKE IT TALKS ABOUT,
  • 00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:36.220
  • AND I SAID, "OH, MY GOSH, ALL
  • 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:39.170
  • THOSE THINGS THAT BOTHERED ME
  • 00:19:39.170 --> 00:19:41.070
  • ABOUT SCRIPTURE, WHEN I READ
  • 00:19:41.070 --> 00:19:42.010
  • 'EM, I SAID,
  • 00:19:42.010 --> 00:19:44.050
  • "I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:19:44.050 --> 00:19:44.230
  • LORD, HELP MY UNBELIEF."
  • 00:19:44.230 --> 00:19:45.160
  • GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:46.140
  • I WAS RIGHT.
  • 00:19:46.140 --> 00:19:47.050
  • IT DIDN'T SAY THAT.
  • 00:19:47.050 --> 00:19:48.270
  • YOU KNOW THE STORY WHEN JESUS
  • 00:19:48.270 --> 00:19:50.000
  • CURSES THE FIG TREE?
  • 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:51.080
  • I NEVER LIKED THAT STORY.
  • 00:19:51.080 --> 00:19:53.140
  • I SAID, "JESUS, YOU MADE THE
  • 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:54.150
  • FIG TREE.
  • 00:19:54.150 --> 00:19:55.200
  • WHY ARE YOU CURSING IT?
  • 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.080
  • YOU CAN MAKE IT HAVE FRUIT."
  • 00:19:57.080 --> 00:19:58.250
  • WELL, IN ANCIENT TIMES,
  • 00:19:58.250 --> 00:20:00.110
  • DIFFERENT PLANTS REPRESENTED
  • 00:20:00.110 --> 00:20:02.290
  • DIFFERENT THINGS.
  • 00:20:02.290 --> 00:20:04.080
  • THE OLIVE TREE REPRESENTED
  • 00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:07.000
  • JUDAH, THE GOD'S PEOPLE.
  • 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.170
  • GUESS WHAT THE FIG
  • 00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:09.260
  • TREE REPRESENTED?
  • 00:20:09.260 --> 00:20:11.090
  • THE PHARISEES AND THE SADDUCEES.
  • 00:20:11.090 --> 00:20:13.270
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:15.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: HE WAS CURSING
  • 00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:16.110
  • THE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE BECAUSE
  • 00:20:16.110 --> 00:20:17.030
  • THEY WERE NOT FEEDING THE PEOPLE
  • 00:20:17.030 --> 00:20:18.050
  • THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:20.260
  • - MATT: ISN'T THAT FANTASTIC?
  • 00:20:20.260 --> 00:20:21.220
  • - KATHIE LEE: THAT'S WHY HE
  • 00:20:21.220 --> 00:20:22.150
  • CURSED IT.
  • 00:20:22.150 --> 00:20:23.000
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:23.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: SO, I MEAN, THIS
  • 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:24.200
  • KIND OF STUFF JUST AFFIRMS
  • 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:25.160
  • YOUR FAITH.
  • 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:28.140
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW, I JUST SEE
  • 00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:29.130
  • YOU, JUST, LIGHTING A FIRE TO--
  • 00:20:29.130 --> 00:20:30.200
  • A LIGHT FOR THE WORD OF GOD, TO
  • 00:20:32.040 --> 00:20:35.040
  • LOVE THE WORD OF GOD, AND IT'S
  • 00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:36.170
  • SO POWERFUL, AND YOU'VE GOT A
  • 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:38.140
  • STUDY GUIDE, AND YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:39.160
  • VIDEOS, CORRECT?
  • 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:40.250
  • - KATHIE LEE: RIGHT.
  • 00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:42.140
  • - LAURIE: AND HOW DO YOU
  • 00:20:42.140 --> 00:20:43.100
  • GET ALL--
  • 00:20:43.100 --> 00:20:44.150
  • - KATHIE LEE: I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:20:44.150 --> 00:20:45.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:45.050 --> 00:20:45.180
  • - LAURIE: HOW DO WE DO THAT?
  • 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:46.090
  • - MATT: JUST, THE INFORMATION'S
  • 00:20:46.090 --> 00:20:47.010
  • ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:20:47.010 --> 00:20:47.140
  • PEOPLE KNOW THAT.
  • 00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:47.290
  • - KATHY LEE: YOU GO ON MY
  • 00:20:47.290 --> 00:20:49.060
  • WEBSITE, I SUPPOSE.
  • 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:49.270
  • I'M THE LEAST TECHNOLOGICALLY
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:51.150
  • ADVANCED.
  • 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:52.140
  • GIVE ME A TV SET WITH AN ON AND
  • 00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:53.280
  • OFF BUTTON AND A VOLUME.
  • 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:55.020
  • - LAURIE: WELL, LET MATT TAKE
  • 00:20:55.020 --> 00:20:56.100
  • CARE OF THAT STUFF.
  • 00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:57.030
  • - MATT: WATCH THIS.
  • 00:20:57.030 --> 00:20:58.060
  • THIS IS A CLIP YOU DID
  • 00:20:58.060 --> 00:20:59.160
  • IN JERUSALEM.
  • 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:00.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: THAT'S ONE OF THE
  • 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:03.000
  • MAIN REASONS WHY WE'RE WRITING
  • 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:03.210
  • THE BOOK.
  • 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:04.060
  • WE WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:21:04.060 --> 00:21:05.050
  • THAT, IF WE'RE NOT IN TOUCH WITH
  • 00:21:05.050 --> 00:21:06.220
  • OUR JEWISH HERITAGE AND THE
  • 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:07.290
  • JEWISH TRADITIONS AND THE JEWISH
  • 00:21:07.290 --> 00:21:10.010
  • LIFE AND FAITH THAT JESUS LIVED
  • 00:21:10.010 --> 00:21:12.040
  • OUT EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE FROM
  • 00:21:12.040 --> 00:21:14.210
  • THE MOMENT HE WAS BORN,
  • 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:16.040
  • WE ARE SO MISSING OUT ON THE
  • 00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:17.040
  • POWER IN OUR CHRISTIAN LIVES,
  • 00:21:17.040 --> 00:21:18.140
  • OUR LIVES OF FAITH.
  • 00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:20.190
  • IF WE'RE NOT CELEBRATING,
  • 00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:21.230
  • HAVING SABBATH DINNER WITH
  • 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:22.280
  • OUR FAMILIES,
  • 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:24.210
  • HAVE A SEDER WITH OUR
  • 00:21:24.210 --> 00:21:25.270
  • JEWISH FRIENDS DURING THE
  • 00:21:25.270 --> 00:21:26.280
  • PASSOVER, WE'RE MISSING OUT.
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:30.120
  • I MEAN, GOD'S NOT GONNA HOLD US
  • 00:21:30.120 --> 00:21:31.120
  • ACCOUNTABLE, I DON'T THINK.
  • 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:32.020
  • HE DOESN'T JUDGE THAT.
  • 00:21:32.020 --> 00:21:32.280
  • HE'S NOT A GOD OF CONDEMNATION,
  • 00:21:32.280 --> 00:21:34.270
  • BUT IF WE'RE LACKING JOY IN OUR
  • 00:21:34.270 --> 00:21:36.290
  • LIFE AND WE'RE LACKING
  • 00:21:36.290 --> 00:21:38.110
  • FULFILLMENT AND EXCITEMENT--
  • 00:21:38.110 --> 00:21:39.180
  • THIS IS EXCITING STUFF.
  • 00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:41.080
  • - RABBI JASON SOBEL: YEAH.
  • 00:21:41.080 --> 00:21:42.100
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE POOR RABBI,
  • 00:21:44.210 --> 00:21:45.120
  • "YEAH."
  • 00:21:45.120 --> 00:21:45.220
  • - MATT: YES.
  • 00:21:45.220 --> 00:21:46.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:46.050 --> 00:21:46.160
  • - KATHIE LEE: HE'S THE TEACHER,
  • 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.080
  • NOT ME.
  • 00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:47.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:48.080
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:48.250
  • - MATT: THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I
  • 00:21:48.250 --> 00:21:49.160
  • FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:50.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, I HAD HIM
  • 00:21:50.020 --> 00:21:50.230
  • AROUND TO GO, "YEAH."
  • 00:21:50.230 --> 00:21:51.100
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:21:51.100 --> 00:21:51.270
  • OKAY, TELL US-- ANOTHER THING
  • 00:21:51.270 --> 00:21:53.030
  • THAT I LOVE IS WHEN YOU TALK
  • 00:21:53.030 --> 00:21:54.070
  • ABOUT THE MUSTARD SEED.
  • 00:21:54.070 --> 00:21:55.100
  • THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
  • 00:21:55.100 --> 00:21:57.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:59.110
  • LOVED THE IDEA THAT SOMETHING SO
  • 00:21:59.110 --> 00:22:00.050
  • LITTLE COULD BE SO POWERFUL,
  • 00:22:00.050 --> 00:22:02.080
  • AND THERE IS A SPOT
  • 00:22:02.080 --> 00:22:02.240
  • ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES,
  • 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.030
  • WHICH COULD ONLY HAVE
  • 00:22:05.030 --> 00:22:07.020
  • BEEN JESUS--
  • 00:22:07.020 --> 00:22:08.080
  • THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THESE
  • 00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:08.270
  • THREE THINGS ARE VISIBLE FROM
  • 00:22:08.270 --> 00:22:10.080
  • THE MOUNT OLIVES.
  • 00:22:10.080 --> 00:22:11.210
  • JESUS WAS ON THE MOUNT OF
  • 00:22:11.210 --> 00:22:12.280
  • OLIVES, SCRIPTURE TELLS US,
  • 00:22:12.280 --> 00:22:13.280
  • WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT HOW
  • 00:22:13.280 --> 00:22:14.270
  • "IF YOU HAVE THE FAITH
  • 00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:16.010
  • OF A MUSTARD SEED,
  • 00:22:16.010 --> 00:22:16.260
  • YOU CAN SAY TO
  • 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:17.250
  • THAT MOUNTAIN,
  • 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:18.170
  • 'BE GONE INTO THE SEA,'"
  • 00:22:18.170 --> 00:22:20.020
  • WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:22:20.020 --> 00:22:22.230
  • WE'RE THERE WITH
  • 00:22:22.230 --> 00:22:24.050
  • RAY VANDER LAAN, WHO WRITES
  • 00:22:24.050 --> 00:22:25.050
  • THESE AMAZING BOOKS, AND VIDEO
  • 00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:27.040
  • IS CALLED "THAT THE WORLD
  • 00:22:27.040 --> 00:22:27.230
  • AND HE MADE US SIT IN THIS VERY
  • 00:22:30.230 --> 00:22:31.230
  • PARTICULAR PLACE, WHICH WAS NOT
  • 00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:33.180
  • LIKE RAY.
  • 00:22:33.180 --> 00:22:34.150
  • HE USUALLY WOULD TAKE US TO TOP
  • 00:22:34.150 --> 00:22:36.250
  • OF A MOUNTAIN, SIT ON ANY ROCK,
  • 00:22:36.250 --> 00:22:38.200
  • AND HE NEVER CARED, BUT THIS
  • 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:41.030
  • PARTICULAR DAY, HE SAID,
  • 00:22:41.030 --> 00:22:41.210
  • "I WANT YOU ALL TO SIT
  • 00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:42.170
  • RIGHT HERE,
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:43.000
  • RIGHT HERE,
  • 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:43.220
  • 'CAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT,"
  • 00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:44.130
  • TAKES OUT A CARD,
  • 00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:45.180
  • A LAMINATED CARD WITH--
  • 00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:46.230
  • HE SAYS,
  • 00:22:46.230 --> 00:22:47.100
  • "SEE THAT ON THERE?
  • 00:22:47.100 --> 00:22:49.290
  • SEE IT?
  • 00:22:49.290 --> 00:22:50.210
  • YOU COULD HARDLY-- IT'S SO
  • 00:22:50.210 --> 00:22:51.100
  • SMALL, YOU CAN HARDLY SEE IT.
  • 00:22:51.100 --> 00:22:52.010
  • IT'S SMALLER THAN A SPECK
  • 00:22:52.010 --> 00:22:52.260
  • OF PEPPER.
  • 00:22:52.260 --> 00:22:54.190
  • HE SAID, "THAT IS A MUSTARD
  • 00:22:54.190 --> 00:22:56.020
  • SEED," AND HE SAID, "IT'S THE
  • 00:22:56.020 --> 00:22:57.060
  • TINIEST SEED IN ALL OF BOTANY,"
  • 00:22:57.060 --> 00:22:58.220
  • AND THEN HE GOES, "AND IT'S THE
  • 00:22:58.220 --> 00:22:59.270
  • MOST FEARED PLANT IN ISRAEL.
  • 00:23:00.040 --> 00:23:03.040
  • WHY?
  • 00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:04.180
  • BECAUSE, ONCE IT ACTUALLY TAKES
  • 00:23:04.180 --> 00:23:05.220
  • NOTHING CAN STOP IT, AND
  • 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:10.040
  • IT GROWS.
  • 00:23:10.040 --> 00:23:10.180
  • YOU CAN'T KILL IT, YOU CAN'T
  • 00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:11.150
  • BURN IT, YOU CAN'T ANYTHING.
  • 00:23:11.150 --> 00:23:12.120
  • THOSE MAGNIFICENT FIELDS IN
  • 00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:14.130
  • ISRAEL THAT ARE YELLOW ABLAZE IN
  • 00:23:14.130 --> 00:23:16.000
  • ALIVE WITH GOD'S GLORY, AND WE
  • 00:23:19.050 --> 00:23:21.150
  • SHOULD BE ALIVE WITH GOD'S GLORY
  • 00:23:21.150 --> 00:23:22.150
  • WITH THAT KIND OF FAITH.
  • 00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:24.010
  • SO HE SAID, "LOOK BEHIND YOU,"
  • 00:23:24.010 --> 00:23:26.030
  • AND WE ALL LOOKED, AND THERE'S--
  • 00:23:26.030 --> 00:23:27.190
  • IT WAS A WALL, AND THERE'S THIS
  • 00:23:27.190 --> 00:23:29.150
  • PLANT GROWING ON IT.
  • 00:23:29.150 --> 00:23:30.170
  • HE SAYS, "THAT'S THE
  • 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:31.070
  • MUSTARD SEED."
  • 00:23:31.070 --> 00:23:32.120
  • HE SAID, "THAT'S WHAT IT
  • 00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:33.080
  • LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S NOT
  • 00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:34.010
  • IN BLOOM."
  • 00:23:34.010 --> 00:23:35.210
  • HE SAID, "NOW I WANT YOU
  • 00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:36.140
  • ALL TO LOOK OVER THERE."
  • 00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:37.210
  • AND WE LOOKED TO THE RIGHT,
  • 00:23:37.210 --> 00:23:38.130
  • AND THERE IN THE DISTANCE
  • 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:39.220
  • WAS HERODIUM,
  • 00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:41.160
  • WHICH IS HEROD'S PALACE IN
  • 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.200
  • BETHLEHEM, WHERE THE WISE MEN
  • 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.120
  • CAME, LOOKING FOR THE NEW KING
  • 00:23:45.120 --> 00:23:46.260
  • OF KINGS-- RIGHT?
  • 00:23:46.260 --> 00:23:48.240
  • -- AND THAT WAS A SYMBOL OF HIS
  • 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.190
  • POWER.
  • 00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:53.150
  • HERODIUM, WHEN HEROD WENT TO
  • 00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:55.090
  • BUILD HERODIUM-- THIS IS ALL IN
  • 00:23:58.060 --> 00:24:01.080
  • THE BOOK, BUT I JUST LOVE ALL
  • 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:02.050
  • THIS STUFF-- THERE WERE TWO
  • 00:24:02.050 --> 00:24:03.100
  • MOUNTAINS HE HAD TO CHOOSE FROM.
  • 00:24:03.100 --> 00:24:04.130
  • THEY WERE THE SAME HEIGHT.
  • 00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:06.000
  • HE SAID, "WELL, I'M THE KING.
  • 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:06.290
  • I'M THE KING."
  • 00:24:06.290 --> 00:24:08.040
  • IF YOU GO DOWN THE CISTERN
  • 00:24:08.040 --> 00:24:09.000
  • IN HERODIUM, AND YOU CAN
  • 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.110
  • SEE WHERE THEY PUSHED EARTH--
  • 00:24:10.110 --> 00:24:11.080
  • I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
  • 00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:11.250
  • SLAVES DIED PUSHING EARTH TO
  • 00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:13.100
  • MAKE THAT MOUNTAIN HIGHER--
  • 00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:16.180
  • - MATT: SLIGHTLY HIGHER.
  • 00:24:16.180 --> 00:24:17.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: SLIGHTLY HIGHER
  • 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:18.050
  • 'CAUSE HE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE
  • 00:24:18.050 --> 00:24:19.070
  • HIS BURIAL PLACE,
  • 00:24:19.070 --> 00:24:19.270
  • AND THEY FOUND THAT
  • 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:21.250
  • JUST RECENTLY.
  • 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:22.270
  • THE SO-CALLED "EXPERTS" SAID,
  • 00:24:22.270 --> 00:24:24.130
  • "WE LOOKED EVERYWHERE."
  • 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:25.040
  • WELL, THEY FOUND IT,
  • 00:24:25.040 --> 00:24:27.160
  • AND IT'S THERE.
  • 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:28.160
  • SO, ANYWAY, WE LOOKED OVER AND
  • 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:30.020
  • SAID, "THAT MOUNTAIN,
  • 00:24:30.020 --> 00:24:31.110
  • IT WAS HEROD'S, MAN'S WAY."
  • 00:24:31.110 --> 00:24:32.030
  • WHAT HE WAS BASICALLY SAYING,
  • 00:24:32.030 --> 00:24:34.120
  • "IF YOU HAVE THE FAITH
  • 00:24:34.120 --> 00:24:35.000
  • OF A MUSTARD SEED AND IT TAKES
  • 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:36.130
  • ROOT IN YOUR HEART AND IT
  • 00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:38.190
  • GROWS IN YOUR SPIRIT,
  • 00:24:38.190 --> 00:24:39.250
  • YOU CAN SAY TO ANY MAN-MADE
  • 00:24:39.250 --> 00:24:41.090
  • OBSTACLE, ANY MAN-MADE ANYTHING,
  • 00:24:41.090 --> 00:24:43.240
  • THE WORLD, THE WORLD IN ALL OF
  • 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:44.250
  • ITS POMPOSITY AND FALSEHOOD,
  • 00:24:47.210 --> 00:24:50.210
  • "BE GONE INTO THE SEA,"
  • 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:52.020
  • AND THEN WE LOOKED
  • 00:24:52.020 --> 00:24:52.250
  • TO THE LEFT.
  • 00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:54.010
  • THERE IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN
  • 00:24:54.010 --> 00:24:55.010
  • SEE THE DEAD SEA TOO.
  • 00:24:55.010 --> 00:24:56.110
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:24:56.110 --> 00:24:57.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: SO JESUS WAS
  • 00:24:57.140 --> 00:24:58.040
  • LITERALLY-- HAD TO BE STANDING
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.090
  • RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:24:59.090 --> 00:25:00.190
  • THE RABBIS DO.
  • 00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:01.230
  • THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE RABBIS
  • 00:25:01.250 --> 00:25:04.250
  • WERE NOT THE FAD--
  • 00:25:04.250 --> 00:25:06.290
  • THE FADDUCEES.
  • 00:25:06.290 --> 00:25:07.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:08.130
  • I GUESS SOME OF 'EM WERE KIND OF
  • 00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:09.050
  • FAD, BUT THE PHARISEES AND THE--
  • 00:25:09.050 --> 00:25:10.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:10.280 --> 00:25:11.130
  • I'M SORRY.
  • 00:25:11.130 --> 00:25:13.210
  • - MATT: YOU'RE ON YOUTUBE NOW,
  • 00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:14.160
  • BY THE WAY.
  • 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:15.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE "FABBUCEES."
  • 00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:17.180
  • KATHIE LEE'S DRUNK AGAIN.
  • 00:25:17.180 --> 00:25:18.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:25:18.120 --> 00:25:19.030
  • NO, SHE'S NOT, OKAY?
  • 00:25:19.030 --> 00:25:19.250
  • I'M EXCITED.
  • 00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:21.270
  • SO, LIKE ON PENTECOST DAY, THEY
  • 00:25:21.270 --> 00:25:24.120
  • ALL THOUGHT THEY WERE DRUNK TOO
  • 00:25:24.120 --> 00:25:25.130
  • AT 9 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING,
  • 00:25:25.130 --> 00:25:26.030
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:25:26.030 --> 00:25:26.210
  • WE WERE JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE
  • 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:27.280
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:25:27.280 --> 00:25:30.050
  • SO, ANYWAY, TO THINK THAT JESUS
  • 00:25:30.050 --> 00:25:30.270
  • WAS A RABBI, SO HE TAUGHT,
  • 00:25:30.270 --> 00:25:33.130
  • APPEALING TO OUR SENSES BECAUSE
  • 00:25:33.130 --> 00:25:35.190
  • THAT'S WHAT THE COMMON,
  • 00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:37.100
  • UNEDUCATED PEOPLE
  • 00:25:37.100 --> 00:25:38.210
  • COULD UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:39.160
  • "BEHOLD, THE LILIES OF THE
  • 00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:40.220
  • FIELD, THEY NEITHER TOIL OR
  • 00:25:40.220 --> 00:25:42.020
  • SPIN, BUT SOLOMON IN ALL HIS
  • 00:25:42.020 --> 00:25:44.240
  • GLORY WAS NOT AS BEAUTIFUL."
  • 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:45.250
  • WELL, THOSE ARE THOSE HUGE RED
  • 00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:47.120
  • POPPIES WE SEE IN ISRAEL.
  • 00:25:47.210 --> 00:25:50.210
  • THEY'RE NOT LILIES OF THE FIELD
  • 00:25:50.210 --> 00:25:51.170
  • THE WAY WE, YOU KNOW, THINK OF
  • 00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:52.170
  • THEM.
  • 00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:53.150
  • THAT'S THE TROUBLE THAT THE
  • 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:54.110
  • BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MIDDLE
  • 00:25:54.110 --> 00:25:55.240
  • EASTERNERS FOR MIDDLE
  • 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.030
  • EASTERNERS, AND WE HAVE TO KNOW
  • 00:25:57.030 --> 00:25:58.270
  • WHAT CULTURE WAS GOING ON IN THE
  • 00:25:58.270 --> 00:26:00.290
  • DAY, WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND WHAT
  • 00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:02.290
  • IT ACTUALLY MEANT AT THE TIME.
  • 00:26:02.290 --> 00:26:05.240
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE
  • 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:06.160
  • ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID?
  • 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.070
  • AND I GET STUCK, KIND OF, ON THE
  • 00:26:08.070 --> 00:26:09.090
  • FIRST THING YOU SAID.
  • 00:26:09.090 --> 00:26:09.290
  • YOU SAID THE MUSTARD SEED THAT'S
  • 00:26:09.290 --> 00:26:12.000
  • SMALLER THAN A SPECK OF PEPPER
  • 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.210
  • IS SO POWERFUL THAT, ONCE IT
  • 00:26:14.210 --> 00:26:15.200
  • TAKES HOLD--"
  • 00:26:16.020 --> 00:26:19.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: REMEMBER HOW THE
  • 00:26:19.020 --> 00:26:20.020
  • SCRIPTURE TALKS ABOUT THE WORD
  • 00:26:20.020 --> 00:26:20.230
  • OF GOD THAT IT FALLS, AND
  • 00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:23.260
  • SOMETIMES IT FALLS ON HARD SOIL,
  • 00:26:23.260 --> 00:26:25.020
  • SOMETIMES IT TAKES ROOT, BUT
  • 00:26:25.020 --> 00:26:27.220
  • IT'S NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO
  • 00:26:27.220 --> 00:26:29.040
  • WITHSTAND THE STORMS?
  • 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:31.140
  • BUT THE ONES THAT DO, NOTHING
  • 00:26:31.140 --> 00:26:32.140
  • CAN STOP US.
  • 00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:34.270
  • - LAURIE: SO NOTHING CAN STOP
  • 00:26:34.270 --> 00:26:35.190
  • THAT?
  • 00:26:35.190 --> 00:26:36.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: NOTHING.
  • 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:37.080
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:26:37.080 --> 00:26:37.260
  • - MATT: OKAY, LET'S GO TO
  • 00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:38.180
  • BETHLEHEM WITH KATHIE LEE.
  • 00:26:38.180 --> 00:26:39.070
  • - KATHIE LEE: ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:26:41.070 --> 00:26:41.280
  • THRILLING THINGS ABOUT COMING TO
  • 00:26:41.280 --> 00:26:42.200
  • ISRAEL, THE HOLY LAND, AND
  • 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.020
  • STUDYING IN THE RABBINICAL WAY,
  • 00:26:44.020 --> 00:26:46.030
  • IS DISCOVERING JUST HOW WRONG
  • 00:26:46.030 --> 00:26:48.010
  • WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW
  • 00:26:48.010 --> 00:26:50.000
  • THINGS ACTUALLY WERE IN THE DAYS
  • 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.190
  • OF JESUS.
  • 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:54.100
  • LOOK AROUND HERE.
  • 00:26:54.100 --> 00:26:56.030
  • WE ARE IN SHEPHERDS' FIELDS,
  • 00:26:56.030 --> 00:26:57.170
  • RIGHT HERE IN BETHLEHEM, AND
  • 00:26:57.170 --> 00:26:58.070
  • WHAT WE USED TO THINK OF AS A
  • 00:26:58.070 --> 00:27:00.200
  • STABLE WHERE MAYBE JESUS WAS
  • 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.110
  • BORN, WAS ACTUALLY A CAVE VERY
  • 00:27:02.110 --> 00:27:04.140
  • MUCH LIKE THIS ONE, AND PERHAPS
  • 00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:06.100
  • EVEN THIS ONE.
  • 00:27:07.120 --> 00:27:10.120
  • THIS CAVE IS STILL USED TODAY BY
  • 00:27:10.120 --> 00:27:12.170
  • SHEPHERDS HERE IN BETHLEHEM, SO
  • 00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:14.040
  • IMAGINE THE SCENE OF A YOUNG
  • 00:27:14.040 --> 00:27:15.290
  • GIRL, STILL A VIRGIN, YET READY
  • 00:27:15.290 --> 00:27:18.080
  • TO GIVE BIRTH, PROBABLY NOT MORE
  • 00:27:18.080 --> 00:27:19.170
  • THAN 14 YEARS OLD, WITH HER
  • 00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:21.210
  • SOON-TO-BE HUSBAND, JOSEPH,
  • 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:23.120
  • STANDING BY, GIVING BIRTH IN A
  • 00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:26.060
  • PLACE LIKE THIS, NOT A STABLE,
  • 00:27:26.060 --> 00:27:28.130
  • THE WAY WE KNOW IT IN THE WEST,
  • 00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:31.220
  • BUT A CAVE, THE BIRTHING PLACE
  • 00:27:31.220 --> 00:27:33.080
  • OF ACTUAL SHEEP, RIGHT HERE, IN
  • 00:27:33.080 --> 00:27:35.010
  • THE HOLY LAND.
  • 00:27:35.010 --> 00:27:37.190
  • AND WHY WERE THEY BORN?
  • 00:27:37.190 --> 00:27:38.270
  • WELL, THE GOOD RABBI IS GONNA
  • 00:27:38.270 --> 00:27:40.140
  • TELL US IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE
  • 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:42.090
  • SECRET IS THE LAMB OF GOD THAT
  • 00:27:42.090 --> 00:27:43.280
  • CAME TO SAVE THE WORLD IS LIKE
  • 00:27:43.280 --> 00:27:46.160
  • THE LITTLE LAMBS THAT WERE BORN
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.130
  • HERE FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, TO BE
  • 00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:48.240
  • SACRIFICED JUST A FEW MILES AWAY
  • 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:50.030
  • ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT FOR THE
  • 00:27:50.030 --> 00:27:51.160
  • FORGIVENESS OF SIN.
  • 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.250
  • AND OUTSIDE, ALREADY ENEMIES.
  • 00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:55.020
  • KING HEROD HAS HEARD ABOUT THIS
  • 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:57.200
  • CHILD ABOUT TO BE BORN, AND HE'S
  • 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.190
  • THREATENED.
  • 00:27:58.190 --> 00:28:00.190
  • HE'S THREATENED THAT MAYBE A
  • 00:28:00.190 --> 00:28:02.060
  • REAL KING-- 'CAUSE REMEMBER, HE
  • 00:28:02.060 --> 00:28:04.180
  • CALLED HIMSELF THE KING OF THE
  • 00:28:04.180 --> 00:28:05.110
  • JEWS, BUT HEROD WASN'T EVEN A
  • 00:28:05.110 --> 00:28:06.160
  • JEW.
  • 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.080
  • HE WAS AN EDOMITE FROM DOWN NEAR
  • 00:28:07.080 --> 00:28:08.200
  • THE DEAD SEA AREA.
  • 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:10.060
  • SO HE WAS VERY, VERY PARANOID,
  • 00:28:10.060 --> 00:28:12.280
  • SO HE ASKED HIS ASTROLOGERS AND
  • 00:28:12.280 --> 00:28:15.050
  • EVERYONE ELSE, HIS SO-CALLED
  • 00:28:15.050 --> 00:28:16.040
  • WISE MEN, "WHERE IS THIS CHILD
  • 00:28:16.040 --> 00:28:17.070
  • TO BE BORN?"
  • 00:28:17.070 --> 00:28:18.060
  • AND THEY SAID, "IN THE LITTLE
  • 00:28:18.060 --> 00:28:19.290
  • VILLAGE OF BETHLEHEM," WHICH
  • 00:28:19.290 --> 00:28:21.110
  • PROBABLY ONLY HAD ABOUT A
  • 00:28:21.110 --> 00:28:22.180
  • HUNDRED PEOPLE IN RESIDENCE AT
  • 00:28:22.180 --> 00:28:23.150
  • THE TIME.
  • 00:28:23.150 --> 00:28:24.230
  • SO WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT
  • 00:28:24.230 --> 00:28:26.070
  • IDEAS OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE, BUT
  • 00:28:26.070 --> 00:28:28.080
  • THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT IT WAS
  • 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.030
  • LIKE.
  • 00:28:30.030 --> 00:28:31.040
  • ISN'T IT SO MUCH MORE FUN TO
  • 00:28:31.040 --> 00:28:32.140
  • REALIZE THAT IT WAS THIS?
  • 00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:34.020
  • THAT'S THE THRILL FOR ME IN
  • 00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:36.070
  • STUDYING IN THIS WAY.
  • 00:28:36.070 --> 00:28:37.120
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO WE ARE IN
  • 00:28:37.120 --> 00:28:38.140
  • KATHIE LEE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.150
  • THE WORD, AND YOU'RE IN A GOOD
  • 00:28:43.150 --> 00:28:44.090
  • MOOD, SO THAT'S ALL--
  • 00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:45.030
  • - LAURIE: SHE'S ALWAYS IN A
  • 00:28:45.030 --> 00:28:45.230
  • GOOD MOOD.
  • 00:28:45.230 --> 00:28:46.040
  • - MATT: EVERYTHING'S FINE, SO
  • 00:28:46.040 --> 00:28:47.120
  • JUST AN UNUSUALLY GOOD MOOD--
  • 00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:48.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.000
  • -- SO, OKAY, SO YOU-- LOOK AT
  • 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:52.210
  • THAT BIG OLE SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
  • 00:28:52.210 --> 00:28:53.130
  • - KATHIE LEE: I'M HAPPY.
  • 00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:54.020
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:28:54.020 --> 00:28:54.200
  • - LAURIE: YOU LOOK GREAT.
  • 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:55.090
  • - MATT: YOU'VE MOVED HERE.
  • 00:28:55.090 --> 00:28:55.290
  • - KATHIE LEE: NOT PERMANENTLY.
  • 00:28:55.290 --> 00:28:57.140
  • I STILL HAVE MY HOME IN
  • 00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:58.110
  • CONNECTICUT, MY CHILDREN'S
  • 00:28:58.110 --> 00:28:59.060
  • CHILDHOOD HOME.
  • 00:28:59.060 --> 00:29:01.020
  • THEY DON'T WANNA-- IT'S GONNA--
  • 00:29:01.020 --> 00:29:02.040
  • HOPEFULLY, MY SON AND HIS
  • 00:29:02.040 --> 00:29:03.190
  • BEAUTIFUL FIANCÉE WILL BE
  • 00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:05.180
  • MARRIED THERE NEXT SUMMER, BUT,
  • 00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:07.020
  • HONESTLY, YOU GUYS, I'M IN A NEW
  • 00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:12.220
  • I DIDN'T KNOW WHY I WAS MOVING
  • 00:29:15.030 --> 00:29:15.260
  • TO NASHVILLE, BUT I KNEW I HAD
  • 00:29:15.260 --> 00:29:16.210
  • TO, OR I WAS GONNA DIE.
  • 00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.100
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:29:18.100 --> 00:29:19.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: I WAS LITERALLY
  • 00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:20.090
  • GOING TO DIE OF LONELINESS IN MY
  • 00:29:20.090 --> 00:29:21.220
  • BEAUTIFUL HOME ON THE LONG
  • 00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:22.270
  • ISLAND SOUND IN CONNECTICUT WITH
  • 00:29:22.270 --> 00:29:25.160
  • THE SKYLINE OF NEW YORK CITY,
  • 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.120
  • 23 MILES AWAY, THE MOST
  • 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:28.180
  • MAGNIFICENT PLACE, BUT ONCE MY
  • 00:29:28.180 --> 00:29:31.080
  • HUSBAND DIED, ONCE MY MOTHER
  • 00:29:31.080 --> 00:29:33.210
  • DIED, ONCE MY CHILDREN MOVED
  • 00:29:33.210 --> 00:29:36.040
  • AWAY TO CALIFORNIA TO FOLLOW
  • 00:29:36.040 --> 00:29:36.260
  • THEIR CAREERS, I'M ALONE IN THAT
  • 00:29:36.260 --> 00:29:39.100
  • HUGE HOUSE WITH A MILLION
  • 00:29:39.170 --> 00:29:42.170
  • MEMORIES, AND IT'S A LINE FROM A
  • 00:29:42.170 --> 00:29:44.080
  • MOVIE I JUST WROTE FOR MY
  • 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:46.270
  • FRIEND CRAIG FERGUSON.
  • 00:29:46.270 --> 00:29:47.230
  • IT SAID, "I GOTTA MAKE NEW
  • 00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:49.090
  • MEMORIES, OR THE OLD ONES ARE
  • 00:29:49.090 --> 00:29:50.130
  • GONNA KILL ME, AND I'M NOT READY
  • 00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:51.060
  • TO DIE,
  • 00:29:51.060 --> 00:29:52.160
  • NOT YET."
  • 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.170
  • - MATT: SO THE GOOD NEWS IS
  • 00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:55.170
  • "YOU CAN DO ALL SEASONS THROUGH
  • 00:29:55.170 --> 00:29:57.230
  • CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS YOU."
  • 00:29:57.230 --> 00:29:58.220
  • - KATHIE LEE: I CAN DO ALL
  • 00:29:58.220 --> 00:29:59.120
  • SEASONS THROUGH CHRIST."
  • 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:00.120
  • DOESN'T THAT ENCOURAGE YOU?
  • 00:30:00.120 --> 00:30:01.020
  • - MATT: IT'S FANTASTIC.
  • 00:30:01.020 --> 00:30:01.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: I MEAN, AND THOSE
  • 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.180
  • "SEASONS" ARE GONNA
  • 00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:03.180
  • MEAN "THINGS."
  • 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:05.150
  • I'M GONNA COME UP AGAINST
  • 00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:06.130
  • DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS
  • 00:30:06.130 --> 00:30:08.010
  • DURING DIFFERENT KINDS OF
  • 00:30:08.010 --> 00:30:08.230
  • SEASONS, BUT I JUST LOVE--
  • 00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:10.250
  • I LOVE NASHVILLE BECAUSE PEOPLE
  • 00:30:10.250 --> 00:30:12.280
  • LOVE GOD HERE.
  • 00:30:12.280 --> 00:30:14.260
  • THEY'RE NOT ASHAMED OF THAT.
  • 00:30:14.260 --> 00:30:16.060
  • THEY LOVE MUSIC, THEY LOVE MY
  • 00:30:16.060 --> 00:30:18.220
  • WINE, THEY LOVE GOOD FOOD,
  • 00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:20.060
  • THEY LOVE--
  • 00:30:20.060 --> 00:30:22.170
  • - MATT: NO ONE'S EVER SAID THAT
  • 00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:23.120
  • ON THE "PRAISE" PROGRAM BEFORE,
  • 00:30:23.120 --> 00:30:24.240
  • "MY WINE," YEAH, BUT SHE MAKES
  • 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:25.200
  • WINE SO--
  • 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.100
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:26.100 --> 00:30:26.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: I HAVE.
  • 00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:27.100
  • I HAVE A LINE OF WINE AND--
  • 00:30:27.100 --> 00:30:28.030
  • - MATT: YEAH, WE'VE HEARD.
  • 00:30:28.030 --> 00:30:29.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: -- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:30.120
  • WINE, THERE'S A WHOLE--
  • 00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:31.200
  • IN MY BOOK, THERE'S AN
  • 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:32.150
  • ENTIRE CHAPTER ON THE FACT
  • 00:30:32.150 --> 00:30:33.140
  • THAT WINE IS A HUGE CEREMONIAL
  • 00:30:33.140 --> 00:30:34.170
  • THING IN THE JEWISH CULTURE,
  • 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:36.030
  • AND IN EUROPE,
  • 00:30:36.030 --> 00:30:38.130
  • WHERE I WAS BORN,
  • 00:30:38.130 --> 00:30:39.190
  • IT IS, AND WE'RE THE ONES
  • 00:30:39.190 --> 00:30:41.100
  • THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:42.150
  • DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S
  • 00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:44.080
  • BEEN-- CULTURALLY, WINE HAS BEEN
  • 00:30:44.080 --> 00:30:46.010
  • IN EVERY CIVILIZATION SINCE
  • 00:30:46.010 --> 00:30:47.050
  • SOMEBODY LEARNED HOW TO FERMENT
  • 00:30:47.050 --> 00:30:48.200
  • A GRAPE.
  • 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:49.220
  • - MATT: RIGHT.
  • 00:30:49.220 --> 00:30:50.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:50.060 --> 00:30:52.010
  • - LAURIE: OR SINCE THE
  • 00:30:52.010 --> 00:30:52.190
  • GRAPES FERMENTED.
  • 00:30:52.190 --> 00:30:53.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:53.110 --> 00:30:54.020
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, YEAH, AND--
  • 00:30:54.020 --> 00:30:56.170
  • - MATT: AND DEAL WITH IT.
  • 00:30:56.170 --> 00:30:57.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: YOU BETTER DEAL
  • 00:30:57.210 --> 00:30:59.000
  • WITH IT BECAUSE, IF YOU'VE EVER
  • 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.240
  • BEEN TO ISRAEL,
  • 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.000
  • THERE WAS NO REFRIGERATION
  • 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:02.190
  • BACK THEN, AND THE BIBLE
  • 00:31:02.190 --> 00:31:03.090
  • WOULDN'T BE TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:31:03.090 --> 00:31:04.130
  • "DO NOT BE DRUNK WITH WINE,"
  • 00:31:04.130 --> 00:31:06.040
  • IF IT WAS NOT AN ALCOHOLIC
  • 00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:07.120
  • COMPONENT TO IT.
  • 00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:07.260
  • SEE, I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE
  • 00:31:07.260 --> 00:31:10.020
  • THAT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T RAISED
  • 00:31:10.020 --> 00:31:11.060
  • THAT WAY, BUT GET OVER IT 'CAUSE
  • 00:31:11.060 --> 00:31:12.080
  • THAT'S THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH
  • 00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:13.280
  • IS WHAT SETS US FREE.
  • 00:31:13.280 --> 00:31:16.160
  • THE TRUTH, NOT CULTURE, NOT OUR
  • 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:17.280
  • TRADITIONS, NOT OUR-- WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:31:17.280 --> 00:31:19.220
  • BEEN TAUGHT, NOT BECAUSE THE
  • 00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:21.210
  • KING JAMES VERSION IS THE
  • 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.250
  • DIVINELY-- NO, NO, IT IS NOT.
  • 00:31:23.060 --> 00:31:26.060
  • I GOT MORE PEOPLE ANGRY AT ME,
  • 00:31:26.060 --> 00:31:27.050
  • AND I DON'T CARE.
  • 00:31:27.050 --> 00:31:29.160
  • IT'S NOT.
  • 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:30.110
  • - LAURIE: SHE GETS MORE LIKE
  • 00:31:30.110 --> 00:31:31.190
  • YOUR MOM EVERY SECOND,
  • 00:31:31.190 --> 00:31:32.060
  • DOESN'T SHE?
  • 00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:32.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:32.180 --> 00:31:33.020
  • - MATT: NO, NO, I JUST FIGURED
  • 00:31:33.020 --> 00:31:33.290
  • SOMETHING OUT.
  • 00:31:33.290 --> 00:31:34.210
  • YOU'RE A BLEND BETWEEN MY MOM
  • 00:31:34.210 --> 00:31:35.280
  • AND MY DAD.
  • 00:31:35.280 --> 00:31:37.060
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:37.060 --> 00:31:38.120
  • THAT'S WHAT I JUST FIGURED OUT.
  • 00:31:38.120 --> 00:31:40.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: YOU DON'T BELIEVE
  • 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:41.170
  • IN REINCARNATION, DO YOU?
  • 00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:42.120
  • - MATT: NO, BUT THERE'S
  • 00:31:42.120 --> 00:31:43.120
  • SOMETHIN' GOIN' ON HERE BECAUSE
  • 00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:44.120
  • YOU'VE TURNED IN PARTLY TO MY
  • 00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:46.170
  • MOM AND DAD SO--
  • 00:31:46.170 --> 00:31:47.030
  • - KATHIE LEE: THAT'S
  • 00:31:47.030 --> 00:31:47.200
  • FRIGHTENING.
  • 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:48.040 --> 00:31:49.240
  • - MATT: MY GOD.
  • 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:50.120
  • - LAURIE: IT'S THE BEST OF BOTH
  • 00:31:50.120 --> 00:31:51.180
  • WORLDS.
  • 00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:52.030
  • - MATT: HE DID NOT CARE WHAT
  • 00:31:52.030 --> 00:31:53.000
  • ANYONE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HE
  • 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:53.290
  • SAID.
  • 00:31:53.290 --> 00:31:54.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: IF I HAD CARED, I
  • 00:31:54.140 --> 00:31:55.240
  • WOULD'VE NEVER LASTED 55 YEARS
  • 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:56.150
  • IN THIS INDUSTRY.
  • 00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:57.160
  • - MATT: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:58.110
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:31:58.110 --> 00:31:58.290
  • - KATHIE LEE: I CARE WHAT GOD
  • 00:31:58.290 --> 00:31:59.200
  • SAID ABOUT ME.
  • 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.050
  • - LAURIE: ABSOLUTELY, AMEN.
  • 00:32:00.050 --> 00:32:00.250
  • - MATT: THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:01.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND HE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:02.150
  • ARE MY DAUGHTER.
  • 00:32:02.150 --> 00:32:02.290
  • YOU ARE A DAUGHTER OF ABRAHAM.
  • 00:32:02.290 --> 00:32:03.200
  • YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.160
  • YOU ARE WRAPPED IN A ROBE OF-- A
  • 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:05.230
  • GARMENT OF HOLINESS, AND I LOVE
  • 00:32:05.230 --> 00:32:08.030
  • YOU, AND YOU'RE MY CHILD."
  • 00:32:08.030 --> 00:32:09.060
  • - MATT: LET ME TELL YOU ONE
  • 00:32:09.060 --> 00:32:10.050
  • OTHER STORY, REAL QUICK, AND
  • 00:32:10.050 --> 00:32:11.050
  • THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO
  • 00:32:11.050 --> 00:32:11.220
  • "NAZARETH."
  • 00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:12.240
  • I WAS IN DAVID'S TOMB
  • 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.150
  • WITH SAMUEL SMADJA, JEWISH
  • 00:32:15.150 --> 00:32:17.000
  • BELIEVER, MESSIANIC BELIEVER,
  • 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.120
  • AND HE EXPLAINED SOMETHING TO ME
  • 00:32:18.270 --> 00:32:21.270
  • BECAUSE THERE WAS A CURTAIN
  • 00:32:21.270 --> 00:32:23.170
  • DIVIDING, SO THE MEN'S SIDE,
  • 00:32:23.170 --> 00:32:25.200
  • WOMEN'S SIDE, KIND OF LIKE YOU
  • 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.090
  • SEE AT THE WAILING WALL, AND HE
  • 00:32:27.090 --> 00:32:29.010
  • EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE
  • 00:32:29.010 --> 00:32:31.080
  • SCRIPTURE THAT SAID,
  • 00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:33.020
  • "WOMEN, BE SILENT IN CHURCH,"
  • 00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:34.260
  • HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
  • 00:32:34.260 --> 00:32:36.110
  • WHETHER THEY WERE ON A
  • 00:32:36.110 --> 00:32:37.200
  • PLATFORM OR NOT ON A PLATFORM.
  • 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.040
  • IT WAS THAT, IN THOSE DAYS, THEY
  • 00:32:39.040 --> 00:32:41.030
  • WERE LESS EDUCATED, AND THEY
  • 00:32:41.030 --> 00:32:43.120
  • WOULD OFTEN ASK THEIR HUSBANDS,
  • 00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:46.220
  • THROUGH THE CURTAIN, A QUESTION,
  • 00:32:46.220 --> 00:32:48.040
  • SO THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO ASK
  • 00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:49.270
  • ABOUT THE SERVICE DURING THE
  • 00:32:49.270 --> 00:32:52.210
  • SERVICE THROUGH THE CURTAIN,
  • 00:32:52.210 --> 00:32:53.230
  • BUT LATER.
  • 00:32:53.230 --> 00:32:54.170
  • SO WE TOOK--
  • 00:32:54.170 --> 00:32:56.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: TAKE IT HOME,
  • 00:32:56.090 --> 00:32:57.060
  • HONEY, TAKE IT HOME.
  • 00:32:57.060 --> 00:32:57.220
  • - MATT: YEAH, WE TOOK THAT AND
  • 00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:59.060
  • TURNED IT INTO A THEOLOGY THAT
  • 00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:00.240
  • WOMEN'S SUPPOSED TO BE--
  • 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.000
  • - KATHIE LEE: WOMEN
  • 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:02.160
  • SHOULD NOT--
  • 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:03.000
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S ONE OF THE
  • 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:04.040
  • WORST THINGS--
  • 00:33:04.040 --> 00:33:05.160
  • - MATT: THAT'S THE WEIRDEST
  • 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.070
  • THING I'VE EVER HEARD.
  • 00:33:06.070 --> 00:33:06.280
  • - KATHIE LEE: LET ME TELL YA
  • 00:33:06.280 --> 00:33:07.190
  • ANOTHER BAD ONE.
  • 00:33:07.190 --> 00:33:08.040
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:33:08.040 --> 00:33:08.170
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE ONE IN--
  • 00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:09.100
  • IS IT EPHESIANS?
  • 00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:10.060
  • I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:33:10.060 --> 00:33:10.270
  • I'M THINKIN' WHERE PAUL SAYS,
  • 00:33:10.270 --> 00:33:11.180
  • "WOMEN--"
  • 00:33:11.180 --> 00:33:12.040
  • YOU KNOW, WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:33:12.040 --> 00:33:13.270
  • WHAT THE MEN HAVE TO DO,
  • 00:33:13.270 --> 00:33:15.000
  • "MEN," YOU KNOW, "LOVE YOUR
  • 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.150
  • WIVES THE WAY CHRIST LOVED THE
  • 00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:18.060
  • CHURCH AND GAVE HIS LIFE
  • 00:33:18.060 --> 00:33:19.010
  • FOR IT."
  • 00:33:19.010 --> 00:33:20.270
  • WHAT WOMAN WOULD NOT BE
  • 00:33:20.270 --> 00:33:22.040
  • GRATEFUL FOR A MAN WHO LOVES HER
  • 00:33:22.040 --> 00:33:22.290
  • THAT WAY?
  • 00:33:22.290 --> 00:33:23.230
  • AND THEN, "WIVES, YOU BE
  • 00:33:23.230 --> 00:33:24.270
  • SUBMISSIVE TO YOUR HUSBANDS."
  • 00:33:24.270 --> 00:33:26.030
  • THE WORD IS "HIPPOTASSO,"
  • 00:33:27.190 --> 00:33:30.190
  • H-I-P-P-O-T-A-S-S-O.
  • 00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:33.010
  • IT'S THE ONLY PLACE IN ALL OF
  • 00:33:33.010 --> 00:33:35.030
  • THE GREEK WORLD, THE GREEK
  • 00:33:35.030 --> 00:33:37.260
  • LANGUAGE, WHERE IT'S USED
  • 00:33:37.260 --> 00:33:38.170
  • THIS WAY.
  • 00:33:38.170 --> 00:33:41.080
  • THE ROOT OF IT IS THE
  • 00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:43.020
  • SUBMISSIVE, SLAVERY, SERVITUDE
  • 00:33:43.220 --> 00:33:46.220
  • KIND OF ROOT, BUT THE WAY IT'S
  • 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:48.130
  • USED THERE IS
  • 00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:50.070
  • COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
  • 00:33:50.070 --> 00:33:51.250
  • IT MEANS "TO LEAN DOWN AND
  • 00:33:51.250 --> 00:33:52.270
  • LIFT UP."
  • 00:33:52.270 --> 00:33:55.080
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:56.130
  • TO DO FOR OUR HUSBANDS.
  • 00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:58.000
  • - MATT: BE SUPPORTIVE OF--
  • 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: IN LOVING
  • 00:33:58.200 --> 00:33:59.250
  • SUPPORT.
  • 00:33:59.250 --> 00:34:00.100
  • GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:00.270
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALSO SUPPOSED
  • 00:34:00.270 --> 00:34:01.190
  • TO DO FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
  • 00:34:01.190 --> 00:34:02.110
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:34:02.110 --> 00:34:02.260
  • - KATHIE LEE: WE'RE TO SERVE
  • 00:34:02.260 --> 00:34:03.270
  • AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:34:03.270 --> 00:34:06.050
  • NOW, HOW MANY MARRIAGES HAVE
  • 00:34:06.050 --> 00:34:08.050
  • BEEN DESTROYED BECAUSE
  • 00:34:08.050 --> 00:34:09.120
  • "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:34:09.120 --> 00:34:10.010
  • SUBMIT TO ME"?
  • 00:34:10.010 --> 00:34:11.210
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:34:11.210 --> 00:34:12.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: NO.
  • 00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:13.120
  • - MATT: "SUBMIT, WOMAN."
  • 00:34:13.120 --> 00:34:14.010
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:14.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, THAT'LL
  • 00:34:14.120 --> 00:34:15.020
  • WORK WITH HER.
  • 00:34:15.020 --> 00:34:15.260
  • - LAURIE: I DO.
  • 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:16.100
  • - MATT: YEAH, THAT WORKS, YEAH.
  • 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:17.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:18.070
  • THAT ALWAYS WORKS EVERY TIME.
  • 00:34:18.070 --> 00:34:18.290
  • - LAURIE: 'CAUSE I KNOW THE
  • 00:34:18.290 --> 00:34:19.190
  • TRUE MEANING.
  • 00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:20.020
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOD.
  • 00:34:20.020 --> 00:34:20.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:34:20.260 --> 00:34:21.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: "LEAN DOWN IN
  • 00:34:21.120 --> 00:34:22.020
  • LOVING SUPPORT."
  • 00:34:22.020 --> 00:34:22.190
  • I'M JUST, I'M TIRED OF
  • 00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:23.080
  • ALL OF THIS BEING TAKEN
  • 00:34:23.080 --> 00:34:25.000
  • OUT OF CONTEXT.
  • 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.090
  • - LAURIE: AND NOW THEY DON'T
  • 00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:27.060
  • WANNA SAY IT IN THEIR MARRIAGE
  • 00:34:27.060 --> 00:34:28.130
  • VOWS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE
  • 00:34:28.130 --> 00:34:29.050
  • MADE IT--
  • 00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:30.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, THEN, SAY,
  • 00:34:30.200 --> 00:34:31.280
  • "LEAN DOWN IN LOVING SUPPORT,"
  • 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:32.280
  • LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS TO DO.
  • 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:33.180
  • WHY DON'T WE JUST GET TO
  • 00:34:33.180 --> 00:34:34.230
  • THE ROOT?
  • 00:34:34.230 --> 00:34:35.250
  • JESUS TALKS SO MUCH ABOUT ROOTS
  • 00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:37.160
  • AND "IN THE BEGINNING,"
  • 00:34:37.160 --> 00:34:39.200
  • AND THE CREATION.
  • 00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:40.230
  • IT'S ALL WE HAVE TO GO BACK,
  • 00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:42.010
  • YOU GUYS.
  • 00:34:42.010 --> 00:34:43.000
  • WE'RE LOST.
  • 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.180
  • WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY, AND WE
  • 00:34:44.180 --> 00:34:45.230
  • HAVE NO POWER BECAUSE WE'VE LOST
  • 00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:47.240
  • OUR WAY.
  • 00:34:47.240 --> 00:34:48.260
  • WE ARE QUOTING SCRIPTURE AT
  • 00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:50.010
  • SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOT
  • 00:34:50.010 --> 00:34:51.260
  • ACCURATE, SO WE DON'T HAVE
  • 00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:53.160
  • THE POWER.
  • 00:34:53.160 --> 00:34:54.270
  • THE POWER IS IN THE WORD, AND
  • 00:34:54.270 --> 00:34:55.180
  • WHEN YOU'RE QUOTIN',
  • 00:34:55.180 --> 00:34:57.020
  • "BE GONE TO THAT MOUNTAIN,"
  • 00:34:57.020 --> 00:34:58.130
  • AND YOU'RE NOT SAYIN' IT RIGHT,
  • 00:34:58.130 --> 00:34:59.120
  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT
  • 00:34:59.120 --> 00:35:00.120
  • REALLY MEANS, THAT
  • 00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:01.020
  • MOUNTAIN AIN'T GONNA MOVE,
  • 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:02.210
  • AND THEN WE GET DISCOURAGED,
  • 00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:04.100
  • AND SATAN IS THE
  • 00:35:04.100 --> 00:35:05.120
  • FATHER OF LIES.
  • 00:35:05.120 --> 00:35:07.050
  • HE DOESN'T WANT US TO KNOW THE
  • 00:35:07.050 --> 00:35:09.030
  • WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:10.000
  • THAT'S WHY MARTIN LUTHER HAD TO
  • 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.020
  • DO WHAT HE DID BECAUSE THE
  • 00:35:11.020 --> 00:35:13.020
  • CATHOLIC CHURCH DID NOT WANT
  • 00:35:13.020 --> 00:35:14.260
  • PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:16.170
  • ACTUALLY SAID, AND HE SUFFERED
  • 00:35:16.170 --> 00:35:19.070
  • HORRENDOUSLY FOR HIS DESIRE FOR
  • 00:35:19.070 --> 00:35:19.290
  • PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO READ THE
  • 00:35:19.290 --> 00:35:20.200
  • WORD, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN
  • 00:35:20.200 --> 00:35:23.170
  • THE BATTLE GOES ON.
  • 00:35:23.170 --> 00:35:24.170
  • I GET ALL KINDS OF HATE MAIL
  • 00:35:24.170 --> 00:35:25.240
  • ABOUT THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, HATE,
  • 00:35:25.240 --> 00:35:26.280
  • I KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMIN' FROM.
  • 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:28.160
  • YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU
  • 00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:29.210
  • WANT TO,
  • 00:35:29.210 --> 00:35:30.260
  • BUT IF IT'S HATEFUL, I KNOW
  • 00:35:30.260 --> 00:35:31.240
  • RIGHT WHERE IT CAME FROM.
  • 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:32.250
  • I JUST PRAY FOR YOU AND MOVE ON.
  • 00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:35.110
  • "WIPE THE DUST OFF YOUR FEET."
  • 00:35:35.110 --> 00:35:36.070
  • - MATT: LET'S GO TO "NAZARETH."
  • 00:35:36.070 --> 00:35:36.290
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND I DIDN'T
  • 00:35:39.150 --> 00:35:40.050
  • REALIZE UNTIL I GOT UP HERE THAT
  • 00:35:40.050 --> 00:35:40.270
  • NOT ONLY WAS NAZARETH SO CLOSE
  • 00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:42.140
  • TO MEGIDDO, THE VALLEY OF
  • 00:35:42.140 --> 00:35:43.190
  • MEGIDDO, THE JEZREEL VALLEY OVER
  • 00:35:43.190 --> 00:35:45.200
  • THERE, WHERE ARMAGEDDON IS
  • 00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:47.130
  • TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH IN THE BOOK
  • 00:35:47.130 --> 00:35:48.280
  • OF REVELATION, BUT VERY CLOSE TO
  • 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.080
  • NAZARETH IS THE LITTLE VILLAGE
  • 00:35:51.080 --> 00:35:53.190
  • OF CANA, WHICH IS STILL THERE.
  • 00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:55.230
  • - JASON: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:35:55.230 --> 00:35:57.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND TELL US THE
  • 00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:57.220
  • SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT.
  • 00:35:57.220 --> 00:35:59.020
  • - JASON: SO SIGNIFICANT.
  • 00:35:59.020 --> 00:36:00.120
  • THE FIRST MIRACLE HE DOES IS THE
  • 00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:01.050
  • TURNING THE WATER INTO WINE,
  • 00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:02.190
  • AND THE QUESTION,
  • 00:36:02.190 --> 00:36:04.110
  • "OF ALL THE MIRACLES
  • 00:36:04.110 --> 00:36:05.160
  • HE COULD'VE DONE, WHY IS
  • 00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:06.180
  • THAT THE FIRST MIRACLE?"
  • 00:36:06.180 --> 00:36:07.210
  • WELL, THINK ABOUT IT FOR
  • 00:36:07.210 --> 00:36:08.100
  • A MOMENT.
  • 00:36:08.100 --> 00:36:08.270
  • WHAT WAS THE FIRST MIRACLE MOSES
  • 00:36:08.270 --> 00:36:10.270
  • PERFORMED WHEN HE CAME TO REDEEM
  • 00:36:10.270 --> 00:36:12.280
  • ISRAEL OUT OF EGYPT?
  • 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: HE TURNED THE
  • 00:36:14.140 --> 00:36:15.150
  • NILE INTO BLOOD.
  • 00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:16.060
  • - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:36:16.060 --> 00:36:17.070
  • AND SO HE IS THE GREATER
  • 00:36:17.070 --> 00:36:17.250
  • THAN MOSES.
  • 00:36:17.250 --> 00:36:18.290
  • DEUTERONOMY 18:18, "I'LL RAISE
  • 00:36:18.290 --> 00:36:20.240
  • UP A PROPHET LIKE MOSES FROM
  • 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:22.030
  • YOUR MIDST."
  • 00:36:22.030 --> 00:36:22.250
  • MOSES BROUGHT JUDGMENT,
  • 00:36:22.250 --> 00:36:24.280
  • BUT JESUS TURNED THE WATER
  • 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.050
  • INTO WINE BECAUSE HE IS
  • 00:36:27.050 --> 00:36:28.240
  • THE GREATER THAN MOSES.
  • 00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:30.130
  • HE DOESN'T COME TO BRING DEATH,
  • 00:36:30.130 --> 00:36:31.280
  • BUT HE CAME TO BRING LIFE THAT
  • 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.040
  • WE MIGHT HAVE IT
  • 00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:33.230
  • MORE ABUNDANTLY.
  • 00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:34.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: "ZOE."
  • 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:35.180
  • - JASON: "ZOE."
  • 00:36:35.180 --> 00:36:36.240
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE WORD "ZOE,"
  • 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:37.150
  • "ABUNDANT, OVERFLOWING,
  • 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:38.070
  • CAN'T BE CONTAINED."
  • 00:36:38.070 --> 00:36:40.010
  • - JASON: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:41.060
  • - KATHIE LEE: OH, MY GOSH.
  • 00:36:41.060 --> 00:36:42.140
  • AND WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
  • 00:36:42.140 --> 00:36:43.050
  • THE SIX POTS?
  • 00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:44.080
  • 'CAUSE YOU SAY NOTHING IS
  • 00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:45.010
  • WASTED, AND EVERYTHING, IF IT
  • 00:36:45.010 --> 00:36:46.080
  • SAYS, "SIX," THERE'S A REASON
  • 00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:48.020
  • FOR "SIX."
  • 00:36:48.020 --> 00:36:48.260
  • - JASON: YEAH, IT'S VERY
  • 00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:49.250
  • SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THE IDEA IS
  • 00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:51.110
  • THAT MAN WAS CREATED ON THE
  • 00:36:51.110 --> 00:36:52.170
  • SIXTH DAY.
  • 00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:54.100
  • IN JEWISH THOUGHT, HE FELL ON
  • 00:36:54.100 --> 00:36:56.070
  • THE SIXTH DAY.
  • 00:36:56.070 --> 00:36:56.250
  • HE LOST SIX THINGS AS A RESULT
  • 00:36:56.250 --> 00:36:58.040
  • OF THE FALL.
  • 00:36:58.040 --> 00:36:59.290
  • JESUS COMES TO RESTORE
  • 00:36:59.290 --> 00:37:02.130
  • EVERYTHING THAT WE LOST, SO HE
  • 00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:04.050
  • DOES THE FIRST MIRACLE WITH SIX
  • 00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:06.000
  • STONE POTS IN THE SAME WAY THAT,
  • 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.180
  • WHEN HE DIES, HE DIES ON THE
  • 00:37:08.180 --> 00:37:10.210
  • SIXTH DAY BECAUSE HE'S RESTORING
  • 00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:12.090
  • THE BLESSINGS THAT WERE
  • 00:37:12.090 --> 00:37:13.240
  • LOST IN EDEN.
  • 00:37:13.240 --> 00:37:15.220
  • THIS IS A NEW CREATION MIRACLE.
  • 00:37:15.220 --> 00:37:17.000
  • IT'S SYMBOLIC OF THE OVERFLOW
  • 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.170
  • AND THE BLESSING THAT HE BRINGS
  • 00:37:19.170 --> 00:37:20.270
  • - MATT: ISN'T THAT AWESOME?
  • 00:37:23.160 --> 00:37:24.060
  • - KATHIE LEE: I'M SO GLAD YOU
  • 00:37:24.060 --> 00:37:24.270
  • LET THE RABBI SAY SOMETHING.
  • 00:37:24.270 --> 00:37:25.170
  • HE IS BRILLIANT.
  • 00:37:25.170 --> 00:37:27.210
  • I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW FROM HIM
  • 00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:29.220
  • EVERY SINGLE TIME I'M WITH HIM.
  • 00:37:29.220 --> 00:37:30.140
  • AND YOU CAN GO ON ROCK, ROAD &
  • 00:37:30.140 --> 00:37:32.150
  • RABBI TOURS WITH HIM.
  • 00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:33.120
  • JUST GO ON THE WEBSITE, AND GO
  • 00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:36.010
  • ON IT.
  • 00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:37.190
  • IT'LL BE THE MOST
  • 00:37:37.190 --> 00:37:38.270
  • LIFE-TRANSFORMING TRIP YOU'VE
  • 00:37:38.270 --> 00:37:40.110
  • EVER TAKEN IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:41.030
  • - MATT: WE LOVE GOING
  • 00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:42.010
  • TO ISRAEL.
  • 00:37:42.010 --> 00:37:42.230
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:43.110
  • - KATHIE LEE: I KNOW YOU DO.
  • 00:37:43.110 --> 00:37:44.020
  • - MATT: WE'VE TAKEN TRIPS
  • 00:37:44.020 --> 00:37:44.210
  • THERE, OVER AND OVER.
  • 00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:46.280
  • OKAY, "CAPERNAUM"--
  • 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.150
  • - KATHIE LEE: ONE OF MY
  • 00:37:47.150 --> 00:37:48.180
  • FAVORITE PLACES.
  • 00:37:48.180 --> 00:37:50.080
  • - LAURIE: OH, I'M SORRY.
  • 00:37:50.080 --> 00:37:51.040
  • DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING?
  • 00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:51.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:37:51.260 --> 00:37:53.130
  • - MATT: YEAH, CAN I SAY--
  • 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:54.270
  • - LAURIE: OKAY, HURRY UP.
  • 00:37:54.270 --> 00:37:55.170
  • - MATT: I WANNA JUST GET
  • 00:37:55.170 --> 00:37:56.130
  • THROUGH THESE ROLL-INS HERE
  • 00:37:56.130 --> 00:37:57.030
  • BECAUSE I LOVE THESE
  • 00:37:57.030 --> 00:37:57.190
  • LITTLE PIECES.
  • 00:37:57.190 --> 00:37:58.200
  • WHAT DO YOU WANNA SAY?
  • 00:37:58.200 --> 00:37:59.250
  • WELL, LET'S GO TO "CAPERNAUM,"
  • 00:37:59.250 --> 00:38:01.180
  • HERE WE GO.
  • 00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:04.000
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND ONE OF MY
  • 00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:06.230
  • FAVORITE PARABLES TOOK PLACE
  • 00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:07.130
  • RIGHT HERE IN CAPERNAUM BECAUSE,
  • 00:38:07.130 --> 00:38:08.270
  • AT THE TIME OF JESUS, THIS PLACE
  • 00:38:08.270 --> 00:38:09.190
  • WAS KNOWN AS THE "MILLSTONE
  • 00:38:09.190 --> 00:38:11.090
  • CAPITAL OF THE WORLD."
  • 00:38:11.090 --> 00:38:12.090
  • NOW, WE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:38:12.090 --> 00:38:13.110
  • WHAT MILLSTONES BASICALLY
  • 00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:14.100
  • ARE IN OUR VERNACULAR TODAY,
  • 00:38:14.100 --> 00:38:15.100
  • BUT THEY WERE VERY, VERY
  • 00:38:15.100 --> 00:38:16.060
  • IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE
  • 00:38:16.060 --> 00:38:17.130
  • AT THE TIME.
  • 00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:18.070
  • THINK OF 'EM AS AN
  • 00:38:18.070 --> 00:38:19.180
  • ANCIENT CUISINART.
  • 00:38:19.180 --> 00:38:22.070
  • IT WAS TWO ROUND, LARGE STONES
  • 00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:23.120
  • THAT WORKED TOGETHER IN
  • 00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:24.210
  • GRISTMILLS TO GRIND THE WHEAT
  • 00:38:24.210 --> 00:38:26.200
  • AND OTHER GRAINS, AND IT WAS
  • 00:38:26.200 --> 00:38:28.190
  • CRITICAL TO THE PEOPLE'S
  • 00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:29.070
  • FOOD SUPPLY.
  • 00:38:29.070 --> 00:38:30.150
  • SO, REMEMBER IN LUKE 17:2,
  • 00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:33.160
  • WHERE JESUS SAID,
  • 00:38:33.160 --> 00:38:34.070
  • "IF ANYONE WOULD HARM ANY
  • 00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:36.020
  • OF THE LEAST OF THESE,
  • 00:38:36.020 --> 00:38:38.080
  • THESE LITTLE ONES WHO BELIEVE
  • 00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:39.250
  • IN ME,
  • 00:38:39.250 --> 00:38:41.030
  • IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THEY
  • 00:38:41.030 --> 00:38:42.230
  • HAD A LARGE MILLSTONE PUT ON
  • 00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:43.130
  • THEIR NECK AND DROWNED
  • 00:38:43.130 --> 00:38:45.040
  • IN THE SEA"?
  • 00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:48.090
  • THE PEOPLE COULD SEE ALL
  • 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:49.020
  • OF THAT.
  • 00:38:49.020 --> 00:38:49.270
  • EVEN TODAY, YOU WALK AROUND,
  • 00:38:49.270 --> 00:38:50.230
  • THERE'S ANCIENT MILLSTONES JUST
  • 00:38:50.230 --> 00:38:52.030
  • STREWN AROUND.
  • 00:38:52.030 --> 00:38:53.290
  • THEY'RE PROBABLY WORTH FORTUNES,
  • 00:38:53.290 --> 00:38:56.080
  • BUT, OF COURSE, THEY'RE
  • 00:38:56.080 --> 00:38:57.040
  • PROTECTED HERE, AND THERE'S THE
  • 00:38:57.040 --> 00:38:58.070
  • SEA OF GALILEE.
  • 00:38:58.070 --> 00:39:00.210
  • SO THE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD,
  • 00:39:00.210 --> 00:39:02.230
  • AND THAT'S WHY THEY FOLLOWED
  • 00:39:02.230 --> 00:39:04.060
  • SO CLOSELY ON THE HEELS OF JESUS
  • 00:39:04.060 --> 00:39:06.010
  • BECAUSE WHEN A RABBI SAYS THE
  • 00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:08.000
  • SHEMA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
  • 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.290
  • DAY, "HEAR, O ISRAEL, THE LORD,
  • 00:39:09.290 --> 00:39:11.120
  • THE LORD OUR GOD, IS ONE."
  • 00:39:11.120 --> 00:39:12.230
  • THEN HE'D SAY,
  • 00:39:12.230 --> 00:39:14.090
  • "COME," AND THE PEOPLE WOULD
  • 00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:15.220
  • FOLLOW WHEREVER HE WENT,
  • 00:39:15.220 --> 00:39:16.260
  • AND YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED, REALLY,
  • 00:39:16.260 --> 00:39:18.110
  • TO SAY,
  • 00:39:18.110 --> 00:39:19.250
  • "WHERE ARE WE GOING,
  • 00:39:19.250 --> 00:39:20.140
  • RABBI, AND WHAT ARE YOU GONNA
  • 00:39:20.140 --> 00:39:21.150
  • TEACH US?"
  • 00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:21.280
  • YOU JUST HAD TO TRUST.
  • 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.260
  • AND NOBODY, NOBODY COULD SPIN A
  • 00:39:23.260 --> 00:39:26.030
  • PARABLE LIKE JESUS DID.
  • 00:39:26.030 --> 00:39:27.290
  • HE WAS THE MASTER AT IT.
  • 00:39:27.290 --> 00:39:29.250
  • - LAURIE: AW.
  • 00:39:29.250 --> 00:39:31.230
  • - MATT: ISN'T THAT FUN?
  • 00:39:31.230 --> 00:39:32.230
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:33.110
  • - MATT: AMAZING TO SEE THE
  • 00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:34.280
  • PLACES THAT SCRIPTURE
  • 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.060
  • TALKS ABOUT.
  • 00:39:37.060 --> 00:39:38.150
  • VISIT ISRAEL SOMETIME.
  • 00:39:38.150 --> 00:39:40.140
  • JUST GET THERE SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY.
  • 00:39:40.140 --> 00:39:41.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND STUDY
  • 00:39:41.210 --> 00:39:42.150
  • RABBINICALLY WHEN YOU GET THERE.
  • 00:39:42.150 --> 00:39:44.020
  • GO WITH SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS WHAT
  • 00:39:44.020 --> 00:39:44.290
  • THE SCRIPTURE SAYS.
  • 00:39:44.290 --> 00:39:45.170
  • - MATT: OKAY, I WANNA ASK YOU
  • 00:39:45.170 --> 00:39:47.120
  • ABOUT THAT PHRASE RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:39:47.120 --> 00:39:49.030
  • WHAT DOES "STUDYING
  • 00:39:49.030 --> 00:39:50.230
  • RABBINICALLY" MEAN?
  • 00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:52.060
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, STUDY THE
  • 00:39:52.060 --> 00:39:54.260
  • WAY THE RABBIS DO, WHICH IS IN
  • 00:39:54.260 --> 00:39:56.000
  • YOU KNOW, THE TWO LANGUAGES THAT
  • 00:39:58.120 --> 00:39:59.040
  • GOD, IN HIS ULTIMATE SOVEREIGNTY
  • 00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:02.020
  • AND WISDOM AND, JUST,
  • 00:40:02.020 --> 00:40:03.110
  • PERFECTION, CHOSE TO HAVE HIS
  • 00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:05.290
  • WORD WRITTEN IN ARE HEBREW
  • 00:40:05.290 --> 00:40:06.270
  • OF ALL THE EXISTING ANCIENT
  • 00:40:09.220 --> 00:40:10.270
  • LANGUAGES TODAY, THE ONLY TWO
  • 00:40:10.270 --> 00:40:12.280
  • THAT HAVE NEVER CHANGED THROUGH
  • 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.000
  • ALL OF TIME, HEBREW AND GREEK.
  • 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.230
  • - MATT: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
  • 00:40:16.230 --> 00:40:18.110
  • - KATHIE LEE: HEBREW AND GREEK.
  • 00:40:18.110 --> 00:40:19.070
  • OF COURSE, THEY CHANGED
  • 00:40:19.070 --> 00:40:19.250
  • VERNACULARLY, THE ORIGINAL,
  • 00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:20.180
  • COLLOQUIALLY, BUT THEY
  • 00:40:20.180 --> 00:40:21.050
  • DON'T CHANGE.
  • 00:40:22.010 --> 00:40:25.010
  • LOOK AT THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS.
  • 00:40:25.010 --> 00:40:26.170
  • ISAIAH, FROM THE-- THAT THEY
  • 00:40:26.170 --> 00:40:28.030
  • FOUND IN THE SEA INSTEAD-- THAT
  • 00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:31.080
  • THEY'D WRITTEN IN THE DEAD SEA
  • 00:40:31.080 --> 00:40:33.020
  • AREA, THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS,
  • 00:40:33.020 --> 00:40:33.220
  • ARE-- ISAIAH'S HAS NEVER
  • 00:40:33.220 --> 00:40:35.180
  • CHANGED, NOT SINCE, I THINK, WAS
  • 00:40:35.180 --> 00:40:37.000
  • IT 700 YEARS BEFORE JESUS CAME--
  • 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:38.160
  • ISAIAH?
  • 00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:39.040
  • I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:40.190
  • I'M NOT SURE.
  • 00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:41.060
  • I MEAN, I STUDIED, BUT I'M OLD,
  • 00:40:41.130 --> 00:40:44.130
  • AND I FORGET THINGS.
  • 00:40:44.130 --> 00:40:46.280
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.170
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:49.230
  • OKAY, WHEN WE GET TO ISRAEL, A
  • 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:51.020
  • LOT OF TIMES, WELL, MOST OF THE
  • 00:40:51.020 --> 00:40:52.260
  • TIME, YOU SAY, "SHALOM," WHEN
  • 00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.100
  • YOU SEE SOMEBODY, WHEN YOU
  • 00:40:54.100 --> 00:40:55.080
  • LEAVE--
  • 00:40:55.080 --> 00:40:56.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: RIGHT, "SHALOM."
  • 00:40:56.040 --> 00:40:56.260
  • - LAURIE: "SHALOM."
  • 00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:57.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: "MAHALO," LIKE IN
  • 00:40:57.120 --> 00:40:58.140
  • HAWAII.
  • 00:40:58.140 --> 00:40:58.270
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:40:58.270 --> 00:40:59.250
  • TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS.
  • 00:40:59.250 --> 00:41:01.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, I
  • 00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:02.040
  • UNDERSTAND, FROM
  • 00:41:02.040 --> 00:41:02.280
  • RAY VANDER LAAN,
  • 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.190
  • THAT THE BIBLE BASICALLY
  • 00:41:05.190 --> 00:41:06.070
  • SAYS, IN THE BEGINNING,
  • 00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:08.080
  • WE'VE SAID, "THE SPIRIT OF THE
  • 00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:09.200
  • LORD HOVERED OVER THE ABYSS,"
  • 00:41:09.200 --> 00:41:11.100
  • AND THAT'S A GOOD TRANSLATION,
  • 00:41:11.100 --> 00:41:12.010
  • BUT THE ACTUAL REAL MEANING IN
  • 00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:16.210
  • THE HEBREW IS "THE SHALOM OF GOD
  • 00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:20.260
  • HOVERED OVER THE CHAOS."
  • 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:21.220
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:41:21.220 --> 00:41:22.220
  • - LAURIE: SO "SHALOM" IS NOT
  • 00:41:22.220 --> 00:41:24.130
  • JUST "PEACE."
  • 00:41:24.130 --> 00:41:26.010
  • THAT'S ONE QUALITY OF GOD'S
  • 00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:26.210
  • NATURE, BUT ORIGINALLY,
  • 00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:29.220
  • "SHALOM" WAS EVERYTHING WE
  • 00:41:29.220 --> 00:41:31.080
  • ATTRIBUTE TO GOD ALMIGHTY,
  • 00:41:31.080 --> 00:41:32.260
  • CREATOR, JEHOVAH, ELOHIM.
  • 00:41:32.260 --> 00:41:34.020
  • IT'S HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, HIS
  • 00:41:34.020 --> 00:41:36.040
  • PEACE, HIS JOY, HIS FORGIVENESS,
  • 00:41:36.040 --> 00:41:37.270
  • HIS LOVINGKINDNESS,
  • 00:41:38.120 --> 00:41:41.120
  • HIS PROVISION, HIS EVERY
  • 00:41:41.120 --> 00:41:42.160
  • GREAT ATTRIBUTE.
  • 00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:44.190
  • THERE ARE SO MANY NAMES FOR GOD
  • 00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:46.060
  • BECAUSE HE'S EVERYTHING, BUT
  • 00:41:47.020 --> 00:41:50.020
  • WHAT IT ALL CAME ABOUT TO BE WAS
  • 00:41:51.010 --> 00:41:54.010
  • "SHALOM," AND THAT HAS BEEN
  • 00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:56.060
  • LITERALLY LUKEWARMED AND DILUTED
  • 00:41:56.060 --> 00:41:58.080
  • DOWN THROUGH THE CENTURIES TO
  • 00:41:58.120 --> 00:42:01.140
  • MEAN, "HEY, HAVE A NICE WEEKEND,
  • 00:42:01.140 --> 00:42:02.060
  • SHABBAT SHALOM."
  • 00:42:02.060 --> 00:42:04.250
  • NO, IT'S EVERYTHING
  • 00:42:04.250 --> 00:42:05.200
  • ABOUT GOD.
  • 00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:06.210
  • I KNOW, IT'S LIKE, DOESN'T IT
  • 00:42:07.140 --> 00:42:10.140
  • FEED YOU?
  • 00:42:10.140 --> 00:42:11.160
  • "TASTE AND SEE THAT THE LORD
  • 00:42:11.160 --> 00:42:12.100
  • IS GOOD."
  • 00:42:12.100 --> 00:42:12.240
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, TOTALLY.
  • 00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:13.170
  • - MATT: "SELAH."
  • 00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:14.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: "SELAH," "LET IT
  • 00:42:14.120 --> 00:42:16.000
  • BE."
  • 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:16.210
  • - LAURIE: YOU DON'T HEAR
  • 00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:19.130
  • "SHALOM," THOUGH, BEING USED IN
  • 00:42:19.130 --> 00:42:22.100
  • A CURSING WAY OR ANYTHING LIKE
  • 00:42:22.100 --> 00:42:24.170
  • THAT.
  • 00:42:24.170 --> 00:42:26.200
  • BUT THE IMPACTFUL MEANING OF
  • 00:42:26.200 --> 00:42:29.180
  • THAT WORD IS SO--
  • 00:42:29.180 --> 00:42:31.020
  • - MATT: YOU'RE SAYING, "THE
  • 00:42:31.020 --> 00:42:32.040
  • ATTRIBUTES OF GOD BE WITH YOU,"
  • 00:42:32.040 --> 00:42:34.210
  • "THE ESSENCE OF GOD BE
  • 00:42:34.210 --> 00:42:35.080
  • WITH YOU."
  • 00:42:35.080 --> 00:42:35.290
  • ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL?
  • 00:42:35.290 --> 00:42:37.030
  • - KATHIE LEE: AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:42:37.030 --> 00:42:38.210
  • HOVERED-- THE NOTHINGNESS.
  • 00:42:38.210 --> 00:42:41.120
  • REMEMBER THE PROVERBS?
  • 00:42:41.120 --> 00:42:43.080
  • THERE'S NOTHINGNESS.
  • 00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:44.190
  • IT'S NOT VANITY, VANITY.
  • 00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:46.180
  • IT'S NOTHINGNESS, A NOTHINGNESS.
  • 00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:47.100
  • EVERYTHING IS NOTHING.
  • 00:42:47.100 --> 00:42:48.250
  • WE'VE GOT ABOUT TEN MINUTES.
  • 00:42:51.170 --> 00:42:52.070
  • WE'VE GOT ONE MORE ROLL-IN OR
  • 00:42:52.070 --> 00:42:52.280
  • MAYBE-- YEAH, ONE MORE.
  • 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:53.160
  • WE'RE GONNA GO UP TO
  • 00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.140
  • THE "GALILEE."
  • 00:42:54.140 --> 00:42:57.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: LOVE THE GALILEE.
  • 00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:57.270
  • - MATT: WHAT WE'RE TALKING
  • 00:42:57.270 --> 00:43:00.120
  • ABOUT IS YOUR PASSION AT THIS
  • 00:43:00.120 --> 00:43:02.160
  • SEASON OF YOUR LIFE TO BUCKLE
  • 00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:04.180
  • DOWN AND WRITE A BOOK.
  • 00:43:04.180 --> 00:43:07.080
  • THEY'RE HARD TO WRITE.
  • 00:43:07.080 --> 00:43:09.000
  • THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO WRITE.
  • 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:09.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: YES, THIS ONE WAS
  • 00:43:09.200 --> 00:43:10.120
  • VERY HARD TO WRITE.
  • 00:43:10.120 --> 00:43:10.280
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU
  • 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.050
  • FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
  • 00:43:12.050 --> 00:43:13.160
  • - KATHIE LEE: I HAD TO.
  • 00:43:13.160 --> 00:43:14.060
  • I WAS COMPELLED.
  • 00:43:14.060 --> 00:43:15.040
  • I KNEW I HAD TO.
  • 00:43:15.040 --> 00:43:15.260
  • - MATT: YOUR PASSION FOR DOING
  • 00:43:15.260 --> 00:43:17.180
  • THIS IS REAL, AND, BY THE WAY,
  • 00:43:17.180 --> 00:43:18.250
  • WHATEVER THE INFORMATION SAYS ON
  • 00:43:18.250 --> 00:43:20.270
  • THE SCREEN, THAT'S HOW YOU CAN
  • 00:43:20.270 --> 00:43:22.030
  • GET WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:43:22.030 --> 00:43:24.120
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:25.200
  • WE WANNA MAKE IT AVAILABLE, AND
  • 00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:26.230
  • WE'LL GET 'EM FROM YOU, AND THEN
  • 00:43:26.230 --> 00:43:28.020
  • WE'LL MAKE 'EM AVAILABLE.
  • 00:43:28.020 --> 00:43:28.240
  • AND YOUR PUBLISHER IS THOMAS
  • 00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:31.120
  • NELSON, RIGHT HERE IN NASHVILLE?
  • 00:43:31.120 --> 00:43:32.230
  • - KATHIE LEE: YES, RIGHT
  • 00:43:32.230 --> 00:43:33.130
  • IN NASHVILLE.
  • 00:43:33.130 --> 00:43:34.070
  • - MATT: OKAY, WE'RE
  • 00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:34.230
  • IN NASHVILLE.
  • 00:43:34.230 --> 00:43:35.290
  • KATHIE LEE GIFFORD LIVES HERE
  • 00:43:35.290 --> 00:43:36.200
  • NOW, YOUR SON-- YOU'RE
  • 00:43:36.200 --> 00:43:38.240
  • SUPER-HAPPY RIGHT NOW FOR
  • 00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:40.280
  • SOME REASON.
  • 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:41.110
  • - KATHIE LEE: I'M VERY,
  • 00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:41.290
  • VERY HAPPY.
  • 00:43:41.290 --> 00:43:42.110
  • - MATT: YOU'RE JUST HAPPY.
  • 00:43:42.110 --> 00:43:43.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: I AM IN A NEW
  • 00:43:43.010 --> 00:43:43.210
  • SEASON OF JOY.
  • 00:43:43.210 --> 00:43:44.150
  • I FEEL THE FAVOR OF THE LORD
  • 00:43:44.150 --> 00:43:45.290
  • ON ME.
  • 00:43:45.290 --> 00:43:47.120
  • IF I'VE GOT A PULSE,
  • 00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:48.000
  • THEN I STILL
  • 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:48.210
  • - MATT: YOU MADE YOUR
  • 00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:51.130
  • DIRECTORIAL DEBUT WITH
  • 00:43:51.130 --> 00:43:52.020
  • "THE GOD WHO SEES."
  • 00:43:52.020 --> 00:43:53.080
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, I WAS GONNA
  • 00:43:53.080 --> 00:43:53.280
  • SAY, "ALL THE GOOD STUFF YOU'VE
  • 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:54.210
  • BEEN MAKIN'."
  • 00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:55.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: "THE GOD WHO
  • 00:43:55.140 --> 00:43:56.040
  • SEES," ABOUT TO DO FOUR MORE
  • 00:43:56.040 --> 00:43:57.050
  • ORATORIOS, HOPEFULLY, WITH YOUR
  • 00:43:57.050 --> 00:43:57.270
  • HELP, AND THE NEXT ONE IS CALLED
  • 00:43:57.270 --> 00:43:58.270
  • "THE GOD OF THE OTHER SIDE."
  • 00:43:58.270 --> 00:44:00.070
  • WHEN JESUS SAID, "GET IN THE
  • 00:44:00.070 --> 00:44:01.090
  • BOAT AND MEET ME ON THE OTHER
  • 00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:02.190
  • SIDE," THAT WAS THE MOST
  • 00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:03.250
  • TERRIFYING WORDS THOSE DISCIPLES
  • 00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:05.000
  • HAD EVER HEARD.
  • 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.180
  • YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE JESUS
  • 00:44:07.180 --> 00:44:08.080
  • WANTS TO TAKE US.
  • 00:44:08.080 --> 00:44:08.230
  • - MATT: SPEAKING OF THE OTHER
  • 00:44:08.230 --> 00:44:09.190
  • SIDE, GALILEE IS WHERE THAT TOOK
  • 00:44:09.190 --> 00:44:10.280
  • PLACE.
  • 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:11.260
  • - KATHIE LEE: ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:44:14.020 --> 00:44:14.240
  • THAT ATTRACTED ME TO
  • 00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:15.290
  • CHRISTIANITY, INITIALLY, WAS
  • 00:44:15.290 --> 00:44:17.220
  • BECAUSE I AM A WOMAN, AND I WAS
  • 00:44:17.220 --> 00:44:18.210
  • BLOWN AWAY BY THE WAY JESUS
  • 00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:20.090
  • TREATED WOMEN, WHO HAVE
  • 00:44:20.090 --> 00:44:22.240
  • TRADITIONALLY NOT BEEN TREATED
  • 00:44:22.240 --> 00:44:25.060
  • VERY WELL IN SOME WAYS THROUGH
  • 00:44:25.060 --> 00:44:26.290
  • THE CENTURIES AS SECOND-CLASS
  • 00:44:26.290 --> 00:44:29.020
  • CITIZENS AND SUCH.
  • 00:44:29.020 --> 00:44:29.170
  • TELL US ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:44:29.170 --> 00:44:30.200
  • - JASON: YEAH, I MEAN,
  • 00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:31.140
  • OBVIOUSLY, IN THE ANCIENT WORLD,
  • 00:44:31.140 --> 00:44:32.190
  • ESPECIALLY IN THE GRECO-ROMAN
  • 00:44:32.190 --> 00:44:33.270
  • WORLD, WOMEN WERE TREATED LIKE
  • 00:44:33.270 --> 00:44:34.180
  • PROPERTY.
  • 00:44:34.180 --> 00:44:36.160
  • THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THEIR
  • 00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:37.070
  • OWN IDENTITY, THEIR OWN VALUES.
  • 00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:38.230
  • WOMEN HAD A MUCH HIGHER VALUE IN
  • 00:44:38.230 --> 00:44:41.170
  • THE JEWISH WORLD, BUT, STILL,
  • 00:44:41.170 --> 00:44:43.000
  • WOMEN WERE NOT-- DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.170
  • FULL ACCESS TO THE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:48.240
  • LIFE OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE
  • 00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.090
  • SAME WAY THAT MEN DID.
  • 00:44:50.090 --> 00:44:52.100
  • YOU WERE NOT GONNA FOLLOW--
  • 00:44:52.100 --> 00:44:53.000
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNA USUALLY SEE
  • 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.080
  • WOMEN BEING DISCIPLES OF A
  • 00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:55.080
  • RABBI, SITTING AT THE FEET AND
  • 00:44:55.080 --> 00:44:56.280
  • LEARNING AND REVERED IN THE SAME
  • 00:44:57.170 --> 00:45:00.190
  • WAY THAT JESUS VALUES THE WOMEN
  • 00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:03.010
  • THAT ARE AROUND HIM.
  • 00:45:03.010 --> 00:45:05.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: WELL, NO WONDER
  • 00:45:05.010 --> 00:45:06.010
  • THEY RESPONDED TO HIM.
  • 00:45:06.010 --> 00:45:07.100
  • IF YOU'VE BEEN TREATED THAT WAY
  • 00:45:07.100 --> 00:45:08.170
  • YOUR WHOLE LIFE, AND, ALL OF A
  • 00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:10.250
  • SUDDEN, HE WANTS YOU TO BE WITH
  • 00:45:10.250 --> 00:45:12.050
  • HIM, HE'S TOUCHING YOU, HE'S
  • 00:45:12.050 --> 00:45:13.130
  • LOVING YOU, HE'S LISTENING TO
  • 00:45:13.130 --> 00:45:14.240
  • YOU, AND HE LOVES YOUR COMPANY,
  • 00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:17.030
  • NO WONDER THEY WERE NOT AFRAID
  • 00:45:17.030 --> 00:45:19.290
  • THE WAY A LOT OF THE MEN WERE.
  • 00:45:19.290 --> 00:45:20.200
  • I MEAN, THE WOMEN WERE THERE AT
  • 00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:22.210
  • THE CRADLE WHEN MARY GAVE BIRTH.
  • 00:45:22.210 --> 00:45:24.170
  • THE WOMEN WERE THERE AT THE
  • 00:45:24.170 --> 00:45:27.060
  • CROSS.
  • 00:45:27.060 --> 00:45:28.050
  • THERE WAS ONLY ONE DISCIPLE
  • 00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:29.120
  • THERE.
  • 00:45:29.120 --> 00:45:30.290
  • THAT WAS JOHN, RIGHT?
  • 00:45:30.290 --> 00:45:31.220
  • AND THEN THE WOMEN WERE THERE AT
  • 00:45:31.220 --> 00:45:32.270
  • THE TOMB.
  • 00:45:32.270 --> 00:45:34.130
  • IT'S JUST EXTRAORDINARY.
  • 00:45:34.130 --> 00:45:36.090
  • THEY'RE THE ONES WITH NO FEAR
  • 00:45:36.090 --> 00:45:37.220
  • BECAUSE OF WHAT HE HAD REDEEMED
  • 00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:38.270
  • THEM FROM.
  • 00:45:38.270 --> 00:45:40.130
  • - JASON: ABSOLUTELY, I THINK
  • 00:45:40.130 --> 00:45:41.110
  • WOMEN ARE ELEVATED IN HIS LIFE
  • 00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:44.040
  • AND IN HIS MINISTRY.
  • 00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:46.130
  • THEY PLAY SUCH A SIGNIFICANT
  • 00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:47.230
  • ROLE, AND I THINK HE'S ELEVATING
  • 00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:49.180
  • THEM BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STATUS
  • 00:45:49.180 --> 00:45:51.060
  • THAT EVE HAD IN THE GARDEN WITH
  • 00:45:51.060 --> 00:45:53.050
  • ADAM, THAT THERE WAS THIS BREAK
  • 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:56.130
  • THAT HAPPENED IN THE-- BREAKDOWN
  • 00:45:56.130 --> 00:45:57.220
  • IN RELATIONSHIP, BUT HE IS
  • 00:45:57.220 --> 00:45:59.020
  • RESTORING THAT, AND HE TREATS
  • 00:45:59.020 --> 00:46:00.230
  • THEM VERY DIFFERENTLY, AND IT'S
  • 00:46:00.230 --> 00:46:02.140
  • A VERY SPECIAL THING.
  • 00:46:02.140 --> 00:46:04.070
  • THEY'RE VERY SIGNIFICANT TO HIS
  • 00:46:04.070 --> 00:46:05.100
  • - KATHIE LEE: DON'T YA
  • 00:46:08.110 --> 00:46:09.180
  • LOVE THAT?
  • 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:10.010
  • - MATT: SO WHILE THE ROLL-IN
  • 00:46:10.010 --> 00:46:10.280
  • WAS RUNNING, YOU SAID A
  • 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:11.210
  • STATEMENT ABOUT JESUS
  • 00:46:11.210 --> 00:46:13.040
  • BEING WHAT?
  • 00:46:13.040 --> 00:46:14.240
  • - KATHIE LEE: THE MOST RADICAL
  • 00:46:14.240 --> 00:46:16.040
  • FEMINIST THE WORLD HAS EVER
  • 00:46:16.040 --> 00:46:17.100
  • KNOWN BECAUSE HE CREATED US.
  • 00:46:17.100 --> 00:46:19.200
  • HE CREATED MALE AND FEMALE FOR
  • 00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:20.160
  • HIS PURPOSES.
  • 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:22.290
  • HE LOVES US EQUALLY.
  • 00:46:22.290 --> 00:46:23.170
  • FOR JESUS TO CALL WOMEN
  • 00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:25.170
  • "DAUGHTERS OF ABRAHAM," THEY
  • 00:46:25.170 --> 00:46:27.120
  • WOULD'VE PUT HIM UP ON A CROSS
  • 00:46:27.120 --> 00:46:28.250
  • FOR THAT.
  • 00:46:28.250 --> 00:46:29.180
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:46:29.180 --> 00:46:31.090
  • - KATHIE LEE: HE GAVE THEM
  • 00:46:31.090 --> 00:46:31.290
  • EQUAL VALUE.
  • 00:46:31.290 --> 00:46:32.290
  • HE GAVE THEM EQUAL VALUE.
  • 00:46:32.290 --> 00:46:34.220
  • HE CALLED THEM CO-INHERITORS OF
  • 00:46:34.220 --> 00:46:35.140
  • HIS KINGDOM.
  • 00:46:35.140 --> 00:46:37.120
  • WHAT?
  • 00:46:37.120 --> 00:46:39.060
  • A MAN COULD JUST GO, "I DIVORCE
  • 00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:40.020
  • YOU, I DIVORCE YOU,
  • 00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:40.280
  • I DIVORCE YOU."
  • 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:41.160
  • NO RIGHTS, NO MONEY,
  • 00:46:43.050 --> 00:46:46.050
  • NO ALIMONY, NONE OF THAT STUFF,
  • 00:46:46.050 --> 00:46:48.020
  • JUST, "YOU'RE DONE."
  • 00:46:48.020 --> 00:46:49.110
  • THE LAW SAID,
  • 00:46:49.110 --> 00:46:51.010
  • "YOU'RE DONE."
  • 00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:51.240
  • JESUS SAID,
  • 00:46:51.240 --> 00:46:52.150
  • "NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, HUH-UH,
  • 00:46:52.220 --> 00:46:55.220
  • SHE'S MINE.
  • 00:46:55.220 --> 00:46:56.260
  • SHE'S A CHILD OF MINE.
  • 00:46:56.260 --> 00:46:57.270
  • EQUAL TO YOU AND YOU AND YOU,
  • 00:47:00.220 --> 00:47:01.160
  • JOEY BUTTAFUOCO, YES, SHE IS."
  • 00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:02.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:02.270 --> 00:47:04.100
  • OR WHEREVER THAT CAME FROM.
  • 00:47:04.100 --> 00:47:05.290
  • - MATT: WHAT?
  • 00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:06.160
  • - KATHIE LEE: THERE SHE GOES.
  • 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:08.000
  • - LAURIE: THERE'S SOMETHING
  • 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:08.200
  • TO SAY.
  • 00:47:08.200 --> 00:47:09.000
  • - MATT: YOU DID NOT JUST
  • 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:09.190
  • SAY THAT.
  • 00:47:09.190 --> 00:47:10.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:11.080
  • OH, MY GOD.
  • 00:47:11.080 --> 00:47:12.110
  • - KATHIE LEE: I KNOW, I'M
  • 00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:13.000
  • SORRY.
  • 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:13.090
  • YOU CAN EDIT THAT.
  • 00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:14.030
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:47:14.030 --> 00:47:15.030
  • NO, WE WILL LEAVE THAT IN.
  • 00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:16.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:16.150
  • - KATHIE LEE: IT JUST
  • 00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:17.120
  • REPRESENTS A CERTAIN KIND OF MAN
  • 00:47:17.120 --> 00:47:18.240
  • TO ME.
  • 00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:20.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:20.070 --> 00:47:21.230
  • - MATT: AND THERE SHE GOES.
  • 00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:25.210
  • - KATHIE LEE: MAYBE HE KNOWS
  • 00:47:25.210 --> 00:47:26.210
  • JESUS NOW.
  • 00:47:26.210 --> 00:47:27.040
  • I DON'T MEAN TO CONDEMN HIM.
  • 00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:28.200
  • JUST-- REMEMBER?
  • 00:47:28.200 --> 00:47:29.210
  • JUST THAT ATTITUDE OF WOMEN,
  • 00:47:29.210 --> 00:47:31.020
  • JUST, DISMISSIVE, AND--
  • 00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:31.200
  • [TOUGH ACCENT]
  • 00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:32.050
  • -- (INDISCERNABLE).
  • 00:47:32.050 --> 00:47:33.160
  • I HATE THAT STUFF.
  • 00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:34.230
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:34.230 --> 00:47:37.200
  • - MATT: I'M SORRY--
  • 00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:38.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:40.110
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, WE ALMOST
  • 00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:41.060
  • GOT THROUGH.
  • 00:47:41.060 --> 00:47:42.000
  • WE ALMOST GOT THROUGH TO
  • 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:42.220
  • THE END.
  • 00:47:42.220 --> 00:47:43.070
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:43.070 --> 00:47:44.250
  • - MATT: LET'S GO TO THE
  • 00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:45.180
  • - JASON: SOME BELIEVE THAT WE
  • 00:47:48.090 --> 00:47:49.000
  • DON'T KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE
  • 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.040
  • KIDRON VALLEY, WHICH RUNS
  • 00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:53.170
  • BETWEEN THE MOUNT OF OLIVES AND
  • 00:47:53.170 --> 00:47:54.230
  • JERUSALEM, AND THE HOLY CITY WAS
  • 00:47:54.230 --> 00:47:55.150
  • ACTUALLY THE SHADOW OF THE
  • 00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:57.240
  • VALLEY OF DEATH BECAUSE, THINK
  • 00:47:57.240 --> 00:48:00.210
  • ABOUT IT, THERE'S ALL THESE
  • 00:48:00.210 --> 00:48:01.280
  • GRAVES OVER OUR SHOULDER, SO
  • 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.090
  • THERE'S ALL THESE GRAVE SITES
  • 00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:05.100
  • BECAUSE PEOPLE WANTED TO BE
  • 00:48:05.100 --> 00:48:06.260
  • BURIED HERE 'CAUSE THEY KNEW THE
  • 00:48:06.260 --> 00:48:07.180
  • MESSIAH WAS GOING TO RETURN TO
  • 00:48:07.180 --> 00:48:08.110
  • THIS PLACE.
  • 00:48:08.110 --> 00:48:10.160
  • IT WAS ALSO THE PLACE WHERE THEY
  • 00:48:10.160 --> 00:48:12.130
  • SAW THE GLORY DEPART FROM THE
  • 00:48:12.130 --> 00:48:14.270
  • TEMPLE, AND SOME BELIEVED THIS
  • 00:48:14.270 --> 00:48:16.090
  • IS THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT,
  • 00:48:16.090 --> 00:48:17.250
  • WHERE GOD IS GOING TO COME AND
  • 00:48:17.250 --> 00:48:19.020
  • JUDGE THE NATIONS IN THAT FINAL
  • 00:48:19.020 --> 00:48:21.060
  • EPISODE, SO HE'S IN THE SHADOW
  • 00:48:21.060 --> 00:48:22.240
  • OF THE VALLEY OF DEATH,
  • 00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:25.020
  • PREPARING TO GO TO THE PLACE OF
  • 00:48:25.020 --> 00:48:27.010
  • DEATH WHERE HE'S GONNA GIVE HIS
  • 00:48:27.010 --> 00:48:28.290
  • LIFE FOR US.
  • 00:48:28.290 --> 00:48:30.140
  • - KATHIE LEE: IT'S ALL
  • 00:48:30.140 --> 00:48:31.020
  • INTERCONNECTED.
  • 00:48:31.020 --> 00:48:32.030
  • IT'S ALL JUST PERFECT, ISN'T IT?
  • 00:48:32.030 --> 00:48:32.250
  • - JASON: IT IS.
  • 00:48:32.250 --> 00:48:33.130
  • - MATT: OKAY, I JUST HAD A
  • 00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:34.210
  • THOUGHT.
  • 00:48:34.210 --> 00:48:36.030
  • JESUS SAID, "YOU'LL KNOW TRUTH,
  • 00:48:36.030 --> 00:48:38.000
  • AND THE TRUTH WILL MAKE
  • 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:39.220
  • YOU FREE."
  • 00:48:39.220 --> 00:48:40.280
  • SO WE MISQUOTE SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:48:41.020 --> 00:48:44.020
  • IT HAS NO POWER.
  • 00:48:44.020 --> 00:48:45.230
  • THEN WE SIT IN JUDGMENT ON GOD
  • 00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:48.160
  • AND SAY, "YOUR WORD ISN'T TRUE.
  • 00:48:48.160 --> 00:48:49.230
  • IT'S NOT REAL."
  • 00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:50.180
  • IT'S THIS CATCH-22
  • 00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:53.120
  • OF TRYING TO TAP INTO THE POWER,
  • 00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:57.160
  • AND ONLY TAPPING INTO POWER
  • 00:48:57.160 --> 00:48:59.240
  • IS WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND,
  • 00:48:59.240 --> 00:49:01.150
  • WHEN YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:49:01.150 --> 00:49:03.170
  • - MATT: SO THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
  • 00:49:06.010 --> 00:49:06.230
  • THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF.
  • 00:49:06.230 --> 00:49:09.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: THIS IS THE MOST
  • 00:49:09.010 --> 00:49:09.230
  • IMPORTANT THING IN THE
  • 00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:10.100
  • WHOLE WORLD.
  • 00:49:10.100 --> 00:49:10.220
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, THINK OF WHAT
  • 00:49:10.220 --> 00:49:11.140
  • YOU SAID EARLIER, WHICH WAS
  • 00:49:11.140 --> 00:49:12.040
  • FANTASTIC.
  • 00:49:12.040 --> 00:49:12.150
  • YOU SAID THAT "I CAN DO ALL
  • 00:49:12.150 --> 00:49:13.220
  • THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO
  • 00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:17.020
  • STRENGTHENS ME."
  • 00:49:17.020 --> 00:49:18.160
  • THE HISTORIC TRANSLATION
  • 00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:20.140
  • WOULD MAKE YOU THINK,
  • 00:49:20.140 --> 00:49:21.190
  • "I CAN BE A DOCTOR,"
  • 00:49:21.190 --> 00:49:22.260
  • "I CAN BE AN ASTRONAUT,"
  • 00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.150
  • "I CAN BE A POLICEMAN,"
  • 00:49:24.150 --> 00:49:25.230
  • "I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT,"
  • 00:49:25.230 --> 00:49:27.200
  • "I CAN DO ALL THINGS."
  • 00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:28.230
  • WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT
  • 00:49:28.230 --> 00:49:30.220
  • MEANS, "YOU CAN DO ALL SEASONS,"
  • 00:49:30.220 --> 00:49:32.140
  • THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT IN
  • 00:49:32.140 --> 00:49:34.040
  • JUDGMENT ON GOD IN A BAD SEASON.
  • 00:49:34.040 --> 00:49:36.220
  • YOU CAN DO ALL SEASONS
  • 00:49:36.220 --> 00:49:38.280
  • THROUGH CHRIST,
  • 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:39.260
  • A SEASON OF LOSS AND BETRAYAL
  • 00:49:40.060 --> 00:49:43.060
  • AND GRIEF AND PAIN AND MISERY,
  • 00:49:43.060 --> 00:49:45.200
  • AND TRAUMA.
  • 00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:46.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: WHATEVER THE
  • 00:49:46.200 --> 00:49:47.150
  • WORLD THROWS AT YOU IS WHAT WE
  • 00:49:47.150 --> 00:49:48.200
  • CAN DO THROUGH HIM.
  • 00:49:48.200 --> 00:49:50.200
  • - MATT: THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:49:50.200 --> 00:49:51.240
  • - LAURIE: AND WE'RE GONNA GO
  • 00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:52.150
  • - KATHIE LEE: WE'RE GOING
  • 00:49:55.020 --> 00:49:55.210
  • THROUGH IT.
  • 00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:56.030
  • IT'S CALLED THE-- WE ALL NEED A
  • 00:49:56.030 --> 00:49:56.280
  • "DAVAR" IN THE "MIDBAR," WHICH
  • 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:57.190
  • IS HEBREW FOR "A WORD IN THE
  • 00:49:57.190 --> 00:49:58.130
  • WILDERNESS," AND GOD DOES HIS
  • 00:49:58.130 --> 00:50:01.050
  • BEST WORK IN OUR WILDERNESSES.
  • 00:50:01.050 --> 00:50:02.230
  • - MATT: HE TOOK JESUS TO THE
  • 00:50:02.230 --> 00:50:03.140
  • WILDERNESS.
  • 00:50:03.140 --> 00:50:05.200
  • - KATHIE LEE: FORTY DAYS AND
  • 00:50:05.200 --> 00:50:06.170
  • FORTY NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, YEAH, SO
  • 00:50:06.170 --> 00:50:09.030
  • HE COULD HAVE THE STRENGTH FOR
  • 00:50:09.030 --> 00:50:10.020
  • THE MINISTRY THAT HE WAS ABOUT
  • 00:50:10.020 --> 00:50:11.170
  • TO-- I WENT THROUGH A DAVAR IN
  • 00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:12.230
  • THE MIDBAR FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS
  • 00:50:12.230 --> 00:50:15.010
  • BEFORE I LEFT THE "TODAY" SHOW,
  • 00:50:15.010 --> 00:50:17.030
  • AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE.
  • 00:50:17.030 --> 00:50:19.290
  • I SAID, "LORD, IF THIS IS ALL I
  • 00:50:19.290 --> 00:50:20.210
  • HAVE NOW, IF THIS IS IT AND
  • 00:50:20.210 --> 00:50:22.080
  • THERE'S NO JOY IN MY LIFE AND
  • 00:50:22.080 --> 00:50:23.180
  • I--" YOU KNOW, I WAS DYING
  • 00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:24.210
  • OF LONELINESS.
  • 00:50:24.210 --> 00:50:27.210
  • I FELT LIKE I JUST HAD ALL THESE
  • 00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:28.250
  • PEOPLE I LOVE THAT I WANNA TAKE
  • 00:50:28.250 --> 00:50:30.280
  • CARE OF, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA GO
  • 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.190
  • TO A JOB ANYMORE THAT WASN'T
  • 00:50:32.190 --> 00:50:34.120
  • FEEDING ME THE WAY OF DOING THE
  • 00:50:34.120 --> 00:50:36.020
  • ORATORIOS AND DOING THE WORK IN
  • 00:50:36.020 --> 00:50:37.050
  • ISRAEL AND WRITING BOOKS LIKE
  • 00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:37.260
  • THIS, AND I JUST FELT THIS
  • 00:50:37.260 --> 00:50:39.140
  • HEAVINESS, THIS HEAVINESS, AND I
  • 00:50:39.140 --> 00:50:41.040
  • WAS IN THE DESERT, AND JESUS,
  • 00:50:41.040 --> 00:50:42.270
  • GOD MET ME THERE AND LOVED ME
  • 00:50:43.170 --> 00:50:46.170
  • BACK TO LIFE.
  • 00:50:46.170 --> 00:50:47.040
  • YOU KNOW, CAN I TELL YOU ANOTHER
  • 00:50:47.040 --> 00:50:48.190
  • THING THAT THIS IS FASCINATING
  • 00:50:48.190 --> 00:50:49.270
  • TO ME?
  • 00:50:49.270 --> 00:50:50.210
  • - MATT: PLEASE.
  • 00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:51.050
  • - KATHIE LEE: REMEMBER AFTER
  • 00:50:51.050 --> 00:50:51.270
  • ELIJAH HAD THAT GREAT SUCCESS ON
  • 00:50:52.290 --> 00:50:55.290
  • MOUNT CARMEL WHEN HE DESTROYED
  • 00:50:55.290 --> 00:50:56.200
  • HOW MANY?
  • 00:50:57.090 --> 00:51:00.110
  • -- 850 OF THE BAAL PRIESTS, AND
  • 00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:02.100
  • THEN HE RAN DOWN THE-- HE HAD
  • 00:51:02.100 --> 00:51:04.050
  • HIS BIGGEST SUCCESS, AND HE'S
  • 00:51:04.050 --> 00:51:06.150
  • TERRIFIED NOW OF WHAT AHAB AND
  • 00:51:06.150 --> 00:51:07.220
  • JEZEBEL ARE GONNA DO TO 'EM.
  • 00:51:07.220 --> 00:51:09.120
  • GOES DOWN TO MOUNT SINAI, GOES
  • 00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:10.240
  • INTO A CAVE, HIDING.
  • 00:51:10.240 --> 00:51:12.110
  • LIKE, YOU CAN HIDE FROM GOD
  • 00:51:12.110 --> 00:51:13.130
  • AFTER SOMETHIN' LIKE THAT?
  • 00:51:13.130 --> 00:51:14.180
  • I FELT LIKE THAT.
  • 00:51:14.180 --> 00:51:15.280
  • I FELT LIKE I WAS IN A CAVE,
  • 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.060
  • HIDING.
  • 00:51:17.060 --> 00:51:18.210
  • IT SAID THEN THERE WAS A FIRE,
  • 00:51:18.210 --> 00:51:19.200
  • AND THERE WAS AN EARTHQUAKE, AND
  • 00:51:19.200 --> 00:51:20.240
  • GOD WASN'T IN IT, BUT HE WAS IN
  • 00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:21.190
  • THE GENTLE WHISPERS.
  • 00:51:21.190 --> 00:51:22.080
  • PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE UPSET WITH
  • 00:51:22.080 --> 00:51:24.070
  • ME, BUT THE WORD IN THE HEBREW
  • 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:26.100
  • FOR THE "GENTLE WHISPERS," IS
  • 00:51:26.100 --> 00:51:27.130
  • "LOVEMAKING SOUNDS."
  • 00:51:27.230 --> 00:51:30.230
  • WE ARE GOD'S BRIDE.
  • 00:51:31.140 --> 00:51:34.140
  • JESUS IS THE BRIDEGROOM.
  • 00:51:34.140 --> 00:51:36.140
  • HE LOVES US LIKE HIS BELOVED
  • 00:51:36.140 --> 00:51:37.170
  • BRIDE.
  • 00:51:37.170 --> 00:51:40.040
  • READ SONG OF SOLOMON.
  • 00:51:40.040 --> 00:51:42.120
  • THAT'S HOW GOD LOVES US.
  • 00:51:42.120 --> 00:51:45.000
  • GOD MAKES LOVE TO HIS CREATION,
  • 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.100
  • AND IT DOESN'T MEAN SEXUAL
  • 00:51:47.100 --> 00:51:48.230
  • INTIMACY IN THE WAY THAT, I
  • 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:51.240
  • THINK, "YADA" IS WHAT THAT--
  • 00:51:52.170 --> 00:51:55.170
  • "YADA" IS-- "YADA," I'M SORRY.
  • 00:51:55.170 --> 00:51:56.170
  • IT'S A HEBREW WORD, BUT IT'S
  • 00:51:56.170 --> 00:51:57.120
  • "INTIMACY," LIKE THE MOST
  • 00:51:57.120 --> 00:51:58.130
  • INTIMATE LOVEMAKING, HOW YOU
  • 00:51:58.130 --> 00:52:00.100
  • JUST FEEL YOU'RE LOST IN
  • 00:52:00.100 --> 00:52:02.040
  • SOMEBODY'S COMPLETE ADORATION OF
  • 00:52:02.040 --> 00:52:03.020
  • YOU.
  • 00:52:03.020 --> 00:52:05.030
  • THAT'S WHAT HE DID FOR ELIJAH.
  • 00:52:05.030 --> 00:52:06.280
  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW, KATHIE,
  • 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.250
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING THAT
  • 00:52:08.250 --> 00:52:10.160
  • ARE IN THAT SEASON RIGHT NOW--
  • 00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:11.130
  • - KATHIE LEE: I KNOW, I KNOW
  • 00:52:11.130 --> 00:52:12.040
  • THAT.
  • 00:52:12.040 --> 00:52:12.210
  • - LAURIE: -- OF THAT LONELINESS
  • 00:52:12.210 --> 00:52:13.130
  • AND THAT--
  • 00:52:13.130 --> 00:52:14.060
  • - KATHIE LEE: BROKENNESS.
  • 00:52:14.060 --> 00:52:14.250
  • - LAURIE: -- JUST PRAY FOR 'EM,
  • 00:52:14.250 --> 00:52:15.270
  • MINISTER TO THEM, RIGHT-- JUST
  • 00:52:15.270 --> 00:52:17.040
  • TAKE YOUR TIME.
  • 00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:18.080
  • - KATHIE LEE: LORD, JESUS, WE
  • 00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:18.290
  • JUST LIFT UP THE FACELESS,
  • 00:52:19.060 --> 00:52:22.060
  • VOICELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT
  • 00:52:22.060 --> 00:52:23.250
  • THREE RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:52:23.250 --> 00:52:24.250
  • LORD, WE DON'T KNOW THEM.
  • 00:52:24.250 --> 00:52:26.130
  • YOU DO.
  • 00:52:26.130 --> 00:52:27.230
  • THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.
  • 00:52:27.230 --> 00:52:28.170
  • YOU ARE THE GOD WHO SEES.
  • 00:52:28.170 --> 00:52:29.190
  • YOU ARE THE GOD WHO HEARS THEIR
  • 00:52:29.190 --> 00:52:31.240
  • PRAYERS.
  • 00:52:31.240 --> 00:52:32.090
  • YOU ARE THE GOD WHO NOT ONLY
  • 00:52:32.090 --> 00:52:33.240
  • HEARS THEM BUT ANSWERS THEM.
  • 00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:35.060
  • FATHER, WE PRAY FOR A GREAT
  • 00:52:35.060 --> 00:52:37.040
  • ANOINTING OF YOUR WORD TODAY IN
  • 00:52:37.060 --> 00:52:40.060
  • THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:52:40.060 --> 00:52:41.010
  • MAY IT TOUCH PEOPLE'S LIVES,
  • 00:52:41.010 --> 00:52:42.280
  • LORD.
  • 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:43.180
  • MAY IT TRANSFORM THEM.
  • 00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:45.080
  • WE WEREN'T HERE TO ENTERTAIN
  • 00:52:45.080 --> 00:52:46.040
  • ANYBODY TODAY, LORD.
  • 00:52:46.040 --> 00:52:47.120
  • WE'RE HERE TO SET PEOPLE FREE
  • 00:52:47.120 --> 00:52:49.110
  • LIKE YOU TOLD US TO DO.
  • 00:52:49.110 --> 00:52:50.190
  • WE WANNA GO TO THE OTHER SIDE
  • 00:52:50.190 --> 00:52:51.260
  • WITH YOU, LORD.
  • 00:52:51.260 --> 00:52:52.240
  • WE WANNA GET OUT OF THE BOAT.
  • 00:52:52.240 --> 00:52:54.190
  • HELP US TO HAVE THE COURAGE, THE
  • 00:52:54.190 --> 00:52:55.110
  • "KANA," WHICH IS WHERE THE
  • 00:52:55.110 --> 00:52:57.080
  • WORD "CANA" COMES FROM.
  • 00:52:57.080 --> 00:52:58.260
  • THAT'S WHAT YOU GAVE JOSHUA AND
  • 00:52:58.260 --> 00:53:01.160
  • ALL OF THE ISRAELITES WHEN THEY
  • 00:53:01.160 --> 00:53:02.260
  • WENT IN-- THEY'RE HEBREWS AT
  • 00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:04.020
  • THE TIME-- WENT IN TO TAKE THE
  • 00:53:04.020 --> 00:53:05.130
  • LAND.
  • 00:53:05.130 --> 00:53:06.010
  • GIVE US "KANA," LORD, TO TAKE
  • 00:53:06.010 --> 00:53:07.090
  • THE LAND AND BRING YOUR SHALOM,
  • 00:53:07.090 --> 00:53:09.150
  • YOUR SHALOM, YOUR POWER, TO THE
  • 00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:12.000
  • CHAOS OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:13.010
  • COME, SHALOM, TO THE CHAOS OF
  • 00:53:13.010 --> 00:53:15.130
  • THESE PEOPLE'S LIVES, LORD, THE
  • 00:53:15.130 --> 00:53:17.000
  • LOST, THE GRIEF, THE ADDICTIONS,
  • 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.260
  • THE LONELINESS, THE BROKENNESS.
  • 00:53:19.260 --> 00:53:22.090
  • FATHER, YOU ARE THE GOD WHO
  • 00:53:22.090 --> 00:53:24.030
  • HEALS.
  • 00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:24.250
  • YOU HEAL EVERY BIT AS MUCH
  • 00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:27.030
  • TODAY.
  • 00:53:27.030 --> 00:53:27.290
  • YOU NEVER CHANGE.
  • 00:53:27.290 --> 00:53:28.250
  • YOU'RE THE SAME YESTERDAY,
  • 00:53:28.250 --> 00:53:30.170
  • TODAY, AND FOREVER, AND YOU WILL
  • 00:53:30.170 --> 00:53:31.090
  • HEAL THEM.
  • 00:53:31.090 --> 00:53:32.170
  • YOU WILL HEAL THEM IF THEY CRY
  • 00:53:32.170 --> 00:53:33.150
  • OUT TO YOU.
  • 00:53:33.150 --> 00:53:34.170
  • YOU WILL SEE THEM, AND YOU WILL
  • 00:53:34.170 --> 00:53:36.000
  • HEAL THEM, AND YOU WILL SHOW
  • 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.050
  • THEM GREAT AND WONDROUS THINGS
  • 00:53:37.050 --> 00:53:38.100
  • LIKE YOU DID JEREMIAH.
  • 00:53:38.100 --> 00:53:40.000
  • FATHER, YOU ARE THE SAME, AND WE
  • 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.010
  • PRAISE YOU.
  • 00:53:42.010 --> 00:53:43.110
  • WE PRAISE YOU, OUR LORD, OUR
  • 00:53:43.230 --> 00:53:46.230
  • GOD, OUR SAVIOR, OR ABBA FATHER,
  • 00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:48.160
  • IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:53:48.160 --> 00:53:49.130
  • - MATT: WHAT AN AMAZING
  • 00:53:49.130 --> 00:53:51.080
  • PROGRAM.
  • 00:53:51.080 --> 00:53:53.130
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:53:53.130 --> 00:53:54.180
  • BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO IS REALLY
  • 00:53:54.180 --> 00:53:56.100
  • JUST, KIND OF, UNCOVER TRUTH.
  • 00:53:56.100 --> 00:53:57.220
  • YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH OF THE WORD
  • 00:53:57.220 --> 00:54:00.020
  • SETS US FREE.
  • 00:54:00.020 --> 00:54:01.000
  • - KATHIE LEE: NOTHIN'
  • 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:02.060
  • ELSE DOES.
  • 00:54:02.060 --> 00:54:02.210
  • - MATT: YEAH, YOU CAN QUOTE ALL
  • 00:54:03.020 --> 00:54:06.020
  • THE SHAKESPEARE YOU WANT, OKAY,
  • 00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:07.280
  • AND "MOBY-DICK," AND WHATEVER
  • 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.200
  • ELSE YOU WANT TO,
  • 00:54:10.200 --> 00:54:11.050
  • AND JOEY BUTTAFUOCO'S BOOK,
  • 00:54:11.050 --> 00:54:13.190
  • WHATEVER HIS BOOK IS--
  • 00:54:13.190 --> 00:54:15.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:54:15.190 --> 00:54:18.040
  • -- NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN, OKAY?
  • 00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:20.130
  • SO WHEN YOU UNCOVER THE TRUTH OF
  • 00:54:20.130 --> 00:54:22.220
  • GOD'S LIVING WORD, THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:25.240
  • WELCOME TO NASHVILLE.
  • 00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:30.010
  • - KATHIE LEE: THANK YOU
  • 00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:30.190
  • SO MUCH.
  • 00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:31.000
  • - MATT: WELCOME TO YOUR
  • 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:31.180
  • NEW SEASON.
  • 00:54:31.180 --> 00:54:32.130
  • - KATHIE LEE: THANK YOU.
  • 00:54:32.130 --> 00:54:33.020
  • - MATT: AND YOU JUST SEEM TO BE
  • 00:54:33.020 --> 00:54:34.150
  • READY TO GET OUT AND GET SOME
  • 00:54:34.150 --> 00:54:35.060
  • STUFF DONE.
  • 00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:37.060
  • - LAURIE: WE'RE GONNA DO SOME
  • 00:54:37.060 --> 00:54:37.270
  • GOOD STUFF TOGETHER, FUN STUFF.
  • 00:54:37.270 --> 00:54:39.040
  • - KATHIE LEE: I'M LOOKIN' SO
  • 00:54:39.040 --> 00:54:39.250
  • FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU
  • 00:54:39.250 --> 00:54:40.160
  • GUYS ON STUFF.
  • 00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:41.240
  • YOU HAVE WHAT I NEED, AND I HAVE
  • 00:54:41.240 --> 00:54:44.030
  • A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU MIGHT,
  • 00:54:44.030 --> 00:54:46.060
  • AND BECAUSE OF THE LORD USING ME
  • 00:54:46.060 --> 00:54:48.000
  • SO PROFOUNDLY IN WAYS I NEVER
  • 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.230
  • COULD'VE DREAMED FOR SO MANY
  • 00:54:49.230 --> 00:54:51.180
  • YEARS IN THAT OTHER WORLD, TO
  • 00:54:51.180 --> 00:54:53.000
  • COMBINE OUR FORCES AND OUR GIFTS
  • 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.000
  • FOR THE KINGDOM AND BRING MORE
  • 00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.070
  • OF THESE ORATORIOS TO THE WORLD,
  • 00:54:59.070 --> 00:55:01.080
  • WE'RE TELLING ANCIENT STORIES IN
  • 00:55:01.080 --> 00:55:03.010
  • MODERN WAYS AND MAKING WHAT
  • 00:55:03.010 --> 00:55:05.050
  • PEOPLE THINK IS A 5.000-YEAR-OLD
  • 00:55:05.050 --> 00:55:07.140
  • DEAD BOOK COME ALIVE.
  • 00:55:07.140 --> 00:55:09.270
  • IT NEVER WAS DEAD.
  • 00:55:09.270 --> 00:55:11.070
  • IT'S ALIVE AND POWERFUL.
  • 00:55:11.070 --> 00:55:13.250
  • - MATT: WHEN KATHIE LEE AGREED
  • 00:55:13.250 --> 00:55:15.260
  • TO BE OUR GUEST TODAY, THE ONLY
  • 00:55:15.260 --> 00:55:17.000
  • THING SHE ASKED FOR WAS THE
  • 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:17.280
  • FINAL WORD, AND SO--
  • 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.190
  • - LAURIE: WELL, AND YOU MISS
  • 00:55:19.190 --> 00:55:20.160
  • YOUR MOM SO MUCH--
  • 00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:21.180
  • - MATT: -- YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL
  • 00:55:21.180 --> 00:55:22.290
  • MY MOM EVER WANTED WAS THE
  • 00:55:22.290 --> 00:55:23.180
  • - KATHIE LEE: I DIDN'T BUT I--
  • 00:55:25.130 --> 00:55:26.050
  • DID I GET IT?
  • 00:55:26.050 --> 00:55:26.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:55:26.180 --> 00:55:26.290
  • - MATT: YOU'RE GOING TO.
  • 00:55:26.290 --> 00:55:27.190
  • - LAURIE: YOU'RE GONNA GET IT.
  • 00:55:27.190 --> 00:55:28.110
  • - MATT: TELL PEOPLE WHY THIS
  • 00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:30.060
  • BOOK MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:55:30.060 --> 00:55:31.210
  • TELL THEM.
  • 00:55:31.210 --> 00:55:32.060
  • DON'T TELL US.
  • 00:55:32.060 --> 00:55:33.120
  • TELL THEM WHY THIS BOOK MAKES A
  • 00:55:33.120 --> 00:55:34.040
  • DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:55:34.040 --> 00:55:35.120
  • - KATHIE LEE: YEAH, IT MAKES A
  • 00:55:35.120 --> 00:55:36.040
  • DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS
  • 00:55:36.040 --> 00:55:36.260
  • WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
  • 00:55:36.260 --> 00:55:37.210
  • YOUR POWER.
  • 00:55:37.210 --> 00:55:38.170
  • YOU'RE WALKIN' AROUND WITH A
  • 00:55:38.170 --> 00:55:39.150
  • HAIR DRYER, AND THEN YOU'RE
  • 00:55:39.150 --> 00:55:40.230
  • HAVIN' A BAD-HAIR DAY, AND YOU
  • 00:55:40.230 --> 00:55:41.240
  • KEEP MOANIN' AND GROANIN' ABOUT
  • 00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:42.290
  • YOUR BAD HAIR, BUT YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:55:42.290 --> 00:55:44.140
  • WHAT YOU NEED TO PLUG IT IN AND
  • 00:55:44.140 --> 00:55:46.130
  • SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS.
  • 00:55:46.130 --> 00:55:49.090
  • I MEAN, NO ONE'S GONNA HAVE A
  • 00:55:49.090 --> 00:55:51.060
  • PERFECT LIFE.
  • 00:55:51.060 --> 00:55:51.210
  • ONLY JESUS LIVED A PERFECT LIFE,
  • 00:55:51.210 --> 00:55:53.260
  • SINLESS, BUT LOOK, WITH THE
  • 00:55:53.260 --> 00:55:55.290
  • TROUBLE IS DON'T BE SURPRISED
  • 00:55:55.290 --> 00:55:57.250
  • YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TROUBLE, AND
  • 00:55:57.250 --> 00:55:58.230
  • YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TROUBLE WHEN
  • 00:55:58.230 --> 00:55:59.150
  • YOU FOLLOW ME.
  • 00:55:59.150 --> 00:56:00.110
  • DON'T BE AFRAID.
  • 00:56:00.110 --> 00:56:01.220
  • DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED.
  • 00:56:01.220 --> 00:56:03.020
  • HE IS WITH YOU.
  • 00:56:03.020 --> 00:56:03.170
  • HE LOVES YOU.
  • 00:56:03.170 --> 00:56:04.170
  • AND READ THESE BOOKS.
  • 00:56:04.170 --> 00:56:05.260
  • STUDY.
  • 00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:06.220
  • GO TO THE HOLY LAND,
  • 00:56:06.220 --> 00:56:08.040
  • IF POSSIBLE.
  • 00:56:08.040 --> 00:56:08.210
  • IF NOT, WATCH THE ORATORIOS.
  • 00:56:08.210 --> 00:56:10.000
  • WATCH PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT
  • 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.240
  • THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:14.070
  • TEST THE SPIRIT AND SEE IF IT'S
  • 00:56:17.130 --> 00:56:18.050
  • TRUE, AND THEN READ A NEW
  • 00:56:18.050 --> 00:56:19.030
  • TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE.
  • 00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:20.150
  • GET OUT OF WHAT WAS THE OLD.
  • 00:56:20.150 --> 00:56:22.000
  • IT'S NOT WORKING FOR YOU.
  • 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.190
  • READ THE TREE OF LIFE ONE THAT'S
  • 00:56:23.190 --> 00:56:26.180
  • WRITTEN BY MESSIANIC RABBIS, AND
  • 00:56:26.180 --> 00:56:29.160
  • FIND OUT-- WELL, THE PASSION IS
  • 00:56:29.170 --> 00:56:32.170
  • GREAT TOO.
  • 00:56:32.170 --> 00:56:34.140
  • THE PASSION ONE IS FANTASTIC.
  • 00:56:34.140 --> 00:56:35.170
  • I STILL LOVE THE MESSAGE 'CAUSE
  • 00:56:35.170 --> 00:56:37.260
  • IT'S IN BEAUTIFUL MODERN-DAY
  • 00:56:37.260 --> 00:56:39.090
  • ENGLISH, BUT IT'S-- JUST, YOUR
  • 00:56:40.080 --> 00:56:43.080
  • HEART WILL TELL YOU, BUT DON'T
  • 00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:45.040
  • KEEP QUOTING BAD THEOLOGY AND
  • 00:56:45.040 --> 00:56:46.290
  • EXPECTING GOOD RESULTS.
  • 00:56:46.290 --> 00:56:49.020
  • - MATT: WOW, BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:56:49.020 --> 00:56:49.200
  • "THE ROCK, THE ROAD, AND THE
  • 00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:51.280
  • RABBI," KATHIE LEE GIFFORD AND
  • 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:52.190
  • RABBI JASON SOBEL.
  • 00:56:53.270 --> 00:56:56.270
  • IT IS AVAILABLE BY GOING TO ALL
  • 00:56:56.270 --> 00:56:57.290
  • THE INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:56:57.290 --> 00:56:59.090
  • GET IT AND, KATHIE, THANK YOU.
  • 00:56:59.090 --> 00:57:01.160
  • - KATHIE LEE: THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:57:01.160 --> 00:57:02.100
  • HAVING ME.
  • 00:57:02.100 --> 00:57:02.230
  • - MATT: AMAZING.
  • 00:57:02.230 --> 00:57:03.100
  • - KATHIE LEE: I LOVE YOU GUYS
  • 00:57:03.100 --> 00:57:04.010
  • SO MUCH.
  • 00:57:04.010 --> 00:57:04.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:57:04.140 --> 00:57:05.120
  • YOU LET ME BE CRAZY.
  • 00:57:05.120 --> 00:57:06.030
  • I LOVE IT.
  • 00:57:06.030 --> 00:57:07.060
  • - LAURIE: WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:57:07.060 --> 00:57:07.240
  • SEE YOU LATER.
  • 00:57:07.240 --> 00:57:08.070
  • - MATT: SEE YA, BYE-BYE.
  • 00:57:08.070 --> 00:57:08.260
  • - KATHIE LEE: SHALOM.
  • 00:57:08.260 --> 00:57:09.130
  • [MUSIC]
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