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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Dr. David Jeremiah.

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Praise | July 6, 2017

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - FEMALE ANNOUNCER: COMING UP
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  • ON "PRAISE"...
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  • - DR. DAVID JEREMIAH: THERE'S A
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  • PLACE GOD'S PREPARED FOR YOU,
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  • AND HE WANTS YOU TO COME THERE.
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  • HE LOVES YOU, AND HE WANTS TO
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  • BRING YOU TO HIMSELF, BUT HE
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  • WILL NOT BRING INTO THAT CITY
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  • THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
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  • THEIR OWN SIN AND ACCEPT THE
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  • PENALTY THAT JESUS PAID FOR ON
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  • - ANNOUNCER: YOUR HEAVENLY
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  • HOME, WITH DAVID JEREMIAH,
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  • FOUNDER AND CEO OF TURNING
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  • POINT MINISTRIES, NEXT ON
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WE WELCOME YOU
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  • TODAY TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
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  • THE "PRAISE" PROGRAM IS COMING
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  • TO YOU RIGHT HERE WITH
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  • DR. DAVID JEREMIAH, OUR GUEST,
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  • OKAY, HEAVEN IS FOR REAL.
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  • HEAVEN IS OUR FUTURE HOME.
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  • THIS PROJECT, "REVEALING THE
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  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," WHY THIS
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  • - DR. DAVID JEREMIAH: WELL, YOU
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  • KNOW, MOST PEOPLE, MATT, SPEND
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  • MORE TIME PLANNING A 2-WEEK
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  • SUMMER VACATION THAN THEY DO,
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  • LOOKING INTO THE PLACE WHERE
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  • THEY'RE GONNA SPEND ETERNITY.
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  • - DAVID: SO HEAVEN IS A MYSTERY
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  • TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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  • I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT
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  • AS "THE BEAUTIFUL ISLE OF
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  • SOMEWHERE."
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  • WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS
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  • HEAVEN IS A PLACE.
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  • GOD'S SON, JESUS CHRIST, SAID,
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  • "I'M GOING TO PREPARE A PLACE
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  • FOR YOU."
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  • HEAVEN IS AS MUCH A PLACE AS
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  • THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE SEATED
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  • TODAY, BUT THE BIBLE HAS
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  • A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT, AND THERE
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  • DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF
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  • TEACHING AND PREACHING ON IT
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  • ANYMORE.
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  • IN FACT, I REMEMBER, GROWING UP,
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  • IT SEEMED LIKE ALMOST EVERY
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  • OTHER SONG WE SANG IN CHURCH WAS
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  • ABOUT HEAVEN.
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  • Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT?
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  • - MATT: RIGHT, RIGHT.
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  • [SINGING A CAPPELLA]
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: I'M GOING O
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  • HEAVEN...
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  • - DAVID: YES, AND WHEN WE ALL
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  • GET TO HEAVEN, YOU KNOW, ALL
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  • THOSE SONGS-- AND THEY SEEM TO
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  • HAVE BEEN SLIPPING OVER THE EDGE
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  • AND OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM OF
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  • CHRISTIAN WORSHIP.
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  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
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  • - DAVID: THE ONLY GROUP THAT
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  • KEEPS SINGIN' ABOUT HEAVEN IS
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  • SOUTHERN GOSPEL.
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  • - MATT: GOT IT.
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  • - DAVID: SOUTHERN GOSPEL SINGS
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  • ABOUT HEAVEN ALL THE TIME.
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  • BUT I LOVE THIS SUBJECT.
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  • FIRST OF ALL, BOTH OF MY PARENTS
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  • ARE ALREADY THERE.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - DAVID: AND I REMEMBER MY DAD
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  • TELLING ME TOWARD THE END OF HIS
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  • LIFE, HE SAID, "DAVID, ONE OF
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  • THE HARDEST THINGS ABOUT GETTIN'
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  • OLD IS YOU HAVE MORE FRIENDS IN
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  • HEAVEN THAN YOU HAVE ON EARTH."
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  • - MATT: RIGHT.
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  • - DAVID: AND THAT'S TRUE.
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  • SO ALL OF US, WHOEVER WE MAY BE,
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  • WATCHING HERE IN THE STUDIO, WE
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  • HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN HEAVEN.
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  • THERE'S SOMETHIN' ABOUT HEAVEN
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  • THAT TOUCHES US, AND I WROTE
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  • THIS BOOK TO ANSWER SOME OF THE
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  • QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD OVER
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  • THE YEARS ABOUT THIS PLACE WHERE
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  • WE'RE GONNA SPEND ETERNITY.
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  • - LAURIE: YOU KNOW, I WAS
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  • TELLIN' MATT, OUR PARENTS AND
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  • OUR GRANDPARENTS TALKED ABOUT
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  • HEAVEN SO MUCH, AND I THINK IT'S
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  • BEEN LOST EVEN ON-- WE DON'T
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  • TALK ABOUT IT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
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  • LET'S JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
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  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
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  • - LAURIE: WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S
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  • BEEN LOST ON US?
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  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW WHAT, LAURIE?
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  • I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TOO
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  • BUSY MAKIN' HEAVEN ON EARTH TO
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  • THINK ABOUT HEAVEN WHERE IT'S
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  • GONNA BE, YOU KNOW?
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  • THEY'RE ALL TRYIN' TO GET ALL
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  • THE GOOD STUFF AND ALL THE
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  • TRINKETS AND ALL THE TOYS AND
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  • I MEAN, IF YOU'RE WORKIN' ON A
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  • MANSION DOWN HERE, THE MANSION
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  • UP THERE IS NOT MUCH TO TALK
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  • ABOUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE
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  • BIBLE.
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  • SO HERE'S THE DEAL--
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  • YOU SAID-- LAURIE, YOU SAID
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  • SOMETHIN' TO ME BACKSTAGE THAT
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  • I'VE HEARD IT IN A LITTLE
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  • DIFFERENT PHRASE, AND HERE IT
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  • IS: ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM ARE
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  • EITHER GOING TOWARD OUR REWARD
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  • OR AWAY FROM IT.
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  • IF OUR REWARD IS WHAT WE HAVE
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  • HERE ON THIS EARTH, EVERY DAY
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  • THAT WE LIVE, WE'RE GONNA GET
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  • FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM
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  • OUR REWARD, BUT IF WE KNOW ABOUT
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  • HEAVEN, EVERY DAY THAT WE LIVE,
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  • HEAVEN IS CLOSER AND CLOSER.
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  • I'M GOIN' TOWARD MY REWARD, AND
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  • I KNOW THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE
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  • HERE ARE DOIN' THAT TOO.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - MATT: NICE.
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  • WE ARE IN THE MONTH OF JULY
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  • 2017, AND DR. JEREMIAH IS WITH
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  • US.
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  • OUR MONTHLY GIFT THIS MONTH,
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  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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  • HEAVEN," WITH DR. JEREMIAH.
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  • WE'VE GOT AN 800 NUMBER THAT'S
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  • ON THE SCREEN, AVAILABLE FOR
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  • YOU.
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  • CALL NOW.
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  • THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE, AND
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  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT "REVEALING
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  • THE MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN."
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  • WE DID A LITTLE "MAN ON
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  • THE STREET" THING.
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  • LET'S SEE WHAT SOME PEOPLE
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  • OUTSIDE OF THE STUDIO ARE
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  • TALKING ABOUT AND ANSWERING
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  • QUESTIONS ABOUT HEAVEN.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - FEMALE: WHEN I THINK OF THE
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  • AFTERLIFE, I MEAN, MY FIRST
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  • AND, I MEAN,
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  • HOPEFULLY THAT'S WHERE WE ALL
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  • END UP.
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  • - MALE: I WOULD HOPE THERE'S AN
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  • AFTERLIFE.
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  • I WOULD HOPE THAT.
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  • I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE IN
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  • IT RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE ONE DAY
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  • I WILL.
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  • I DON'T KNOW.
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  • - FEMALE: "IS THERE A HEAVEN?"
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  • IS MY NUMBER ONE QUESTION,
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  • OBVIOUSLY.
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  • - FEMALE: WELL, I ACTUALLY
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  • THINK THAT HEAVEN IS RIGHT HERE
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  • ON EARTH, AS WELL AS HELL.
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  • - MALE: IF THERE IS SOMETHING
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  • OUT THERE, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOOD,
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  • BUT I TRY NOT TO, LIKE, THINK
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  • TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
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  • - FEMALE: I READ THE BIBLE.
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  • I TRUST GOD, AND I KNOW THAT,
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  • WHEN I DIE FROM THIS LIFE, I'LL
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  • IMMEDIATELY TRANSITION INTO HIS
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  • - FEMALE: WELL, LIKE, I THINK
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  • WILL SHE BE LIKE THE GRANDMA I
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  • KNEW WHEN SHE WAS ON HER
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  • DEATHBED, OR WILL SHE BE LIKE
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  • YOUNG, SPUNKY GRANDMA?
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  • - MALE: I MEAN, WHAT IS THERE
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  • TO DO, YOU KNOW?
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  • - MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
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  • MEMBERS THAT I'VE LOST IN THE
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  • - FEMALE: I GUESS MY VERSION OF
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  • HEAVEN IS LIKE PLANTS
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  • - FEMALE: I GUESS THE MOST
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  • BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT YOU CAN
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  • THINK OF ON EARTH.
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  • - FEMALE: IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE
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  • PICTURES THAT YOU SEE ON TV,
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  • JUST, KIND OF, ASCENDING ON HIS
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  • CLOUD AND ALL BRIGHT.
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  • - MALE: IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE
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  • DAFFY DUCK OR BULLWINKLE THE
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  • MOOSE.
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  • I DON'T KNOW.
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  • - MALE: WE GOT A BIG OLE
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  • MANSION, RENT-FREE.
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  • - MALE: WELL, IT AIN'T GONNA
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  • LOOK LIKE NEW YORK, I'LL TELL
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  • - MALE: I THINK OF NO DEBT, NO
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  • - FEMALE: I JUST EXPECT IT TO
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  • BE VERY PERFECT, LIKE YOU DON'T
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  • HAVE TO PREPARE YOUR MEALS.
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  • YOUR MEALS COME TO YOU, AND YOU
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  • DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR ROOM.
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  • YOUR ROOM CLEANS ITSELF.
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  • - MALE: EVERYBODY IN HEAVEN
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  • LOOK ALIKE.
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  • THERE'S NO BLACK, WHITE,
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  • MEXICAN.
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  • WE'RE ALL THE SAME.
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  • - FEMALE: I WANT TO EXPERIENCE
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  • THE FULLNESS OF GOD 'CAUSE I
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  • YEARN FOR IT.
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  • I'M SO GLAD YOU STOPPED!
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • OH, GOD!
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • - DAVID: THAT WAS GREAT!
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  • - LAURIE: THAT'S GOOD!
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  • - MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
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  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
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  • HEAVEN."
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  • DR. JEREMIAH, THANK YOU
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  • FOR WRITING THIS BOOK.
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  • THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF OUR
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  • MOST HIGHLY VIEWED ON TRINITY
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  • BROADCASTING OUT OF ALL OF THE
  • 00:06:37.250 --> 00:06:38.280
  • PROGRAMS.
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  • EVERYONE LOVES DR. DAVID
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  • JEREMIAH.
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  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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  • AND WE CAN PROVE THAT OVER
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  • AND OVER AND OVER.
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  • ONE OF THE LAST TIMES WE WERE
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  • TOGETHER, ONE OF THE BOOKS THAT
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  • YOU HAD JUST WRITTEN AND THAT WE
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  • WERE DISCUSSING ON THAT
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  • BROADCAST, HAD JUST GONE AND WAS
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  • A NUMBER ONE "NEW YORK TIMES"
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  • IF YOU CAN, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF
  • 00:07:02.130 --> 00:07:03.050
  • THE TITLE?
  • 00:07:03.050 --> 00:07:04.060
  • - DAVID: "IS THIS THE END?"
  • 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:05.120
  • - MATT: "IS THIS THE END?"
  • 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.020
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:07:06.020 --> 00:07:07.280
  • - LAURIE: YES, IT IS, AND WE'RE
  • 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:08.200
  • GOIN' TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:09.080
  • - MATT: YEAH!
  • 00:07:09.080 --> 00:07:09.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:07:09.210 --> 00:07:10.040
  • - LAURIE: HOW'S THAT?
  • 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:10.210
  • SO GET READY!
  • 00:07:10.210 --> 00:07:11.060
  • - MATT: GOOD TRANSITION!
  • 00:07:11.060 --> 00:07:11.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:12.120
  • OKAY, SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE
  • 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:13.270
  • WATCHING, WE SOMEWHAT WANT TO
  • 00:07:13.270 --> 00:07:15.270
  • ASSUME THAT EVERYONE, KIND
  • 00:07:15.270 --> 00:07:18.100
  • OF, UNDERSTANDS THE CONCEPT
  • 00:07:18.100 --> 00:07:21.070
  • THAT THERE IS A-- "IN THE
  • 00:07:21.070 --> 00:07:23.100
  • BEGINNING, GOD CREATED THE
  • 00:07:23.100 --> 00:07:23.290
  • HEAVENS AND THE EARTH," AND
  • 00:07:23.290 --> 00:07:24.290
  • THAT, WHEN YOU DIE, YOU
  • 00:07:24.290 --> 00:07:26.080
  • TRANSITION, BUT FOR THOSE SOME
  • 00:07:26.080 --> 00:07:28.120
  • THAT COULD BE TUNING IN AND
  • 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:29.260
  • CHECKING OUT THE CHRISTIAN
  • 00:07:29.260 --> 00:07:32.130
  • CHANNEL, TRINITY BROADCASTING,
  • 00:07:32.130 --> 00:07:34.140
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:07:34.140 --> 00:07:35.270
  • HEAVEN," WHAT IS THIS TRANSITION
  • 00:07:35.270 --> 00:07:36.260
  • PERIOD?
  • 00:07:36.260 --> 00:07:39.140
  • 'CAUSE SOME COULD BE CONFUSED BY
  • 00:07:39.140 --> 00:07:40.060
  • DEATH AND BURIAL AND-- OKAY,
  • 00:07:40.060 --> 00:07:41.270
  • START THERE.
  • 00:07:41.270 --> 00:07:42.150
  • - DAVID: I HAD A YOUNG GIRL
  • 00:07:42.150 --> 00:07:44.030
  • COME TO ME ONE TIME AFTER A
  • 00:07:44.030 --> 00:07:45.060
  • SERMON, AND SHE WAS REAL
  • 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:46.280
  • SERIOUS, AND I LOVED IT 'CAUSE
  • 00:07:46.280 --> 00:07:48.240
  • IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.
  • 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:49.280
  • SHE SAID, "PASTOR, I'M ALL
  • 00:07:49.280 --> 00:07:51.090
  • CONFUSED 'CAUSE I HEAR YOU
  • 00:07:51.090 --> 00:07:52.210
  • TALKIN' ABOUT US GOIN' TO
  • 00:07:52.210 --> 00:07:54.040
  • HEAVEN, BUT THEN I GO TO
  • 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.060
  • FUNERALS, AND THEY TELL ME THE
  • 00:07:55.060 --> 00:07:55.270
  • BODY'S GOIN' IN THE GROUND.
  • 00:07:55.270 --> 00:07:57.190
  • NOW, WHICH IS IT: ARE WE GOIN'
  • 00:07:57.190 --> 00:07:58.180
  • TO HEAVEN, OR ARE WE GOIN' IN
  • 00:07:58.180 --> 00:07:59.170
  • THE GROUND?"
  • 00:07:59.170 --> 00:08:01.240
  • BUT, REALLY, NOT BOTH
  • 00:08:04.190 --> 00:08:05.100
  • BECAUSE THE BIBLE TEACHES
  • 00:08:05.100 --> 00:08:06.230
  • THAT OUR BODIES ARE JUST
  • 00:08:06.230 --> 00:08:08.110
  • THE HOUSE IN WHICH WE LIVE.
  • 00:08:08.110 --> 00:08:09.110
  • WHEN WE DIE, THE BIBLE SAYS
  • 00:08:09.110 --> 00:08:11.170
  • WE'RE "ABSENT FROM THE BODY AND
  • 00:08:11.170 --> 00:08:13.080
  • PRESENT WITH THE LORD."
  • 00:08:13.190 --> 00:08:16.190
  • SO WHEN A PERSON DIES,
  • 00:08:16.190 --> 00:08:17.120
  • HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS:
  • 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:18.110
  • HIS SOUL AND SPIRIT GO TO BE
  • 00:08:21.110 --> 00:08:22.010
  • WITH JESUS.
  • 00:08:22.010 --> 00:08:22.230
  • AND SO IT'S TRUE THAT, WHEN A
  • 00:08:22.230 --> 00:08:24.080
  • PERSON DIES, THEIR BODY GOES IN
  • 00:08:24.080 --> 00:08:25.160
  • THE GROUND, BUT IN A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.250
  • FUNERAL, IF YOU'RE A PASTOR--
  • 00:08:26.250 --> 00:08:29.150
  • AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PASTORS WHO
  • 00:08:29.150 --> 00:08:31.020
  • WATCH TBN-- YOU ALL KNOW THAT,
  • 00:08:31.020 --> 00:08:32.150
  • WHEN YOU DO A SERVICE FOR A
  • 00:08:33.170 --> 00:08:36.170
  • CHRISTIAN PERSON, THERE'S THIS
  • 00:08:36.170 --> 00:08:37.270
  • SENSE THAT THAT PERSON ISN'T
  • 00:08:37.270 --> 00:08:39.080
  • THERE.
  • 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:40.250
  • THEIR BODY MIGHT BE THERE, BUT
  • 00:08:40.250 --> 00:08:41.240
  • THEY'RE NOT THERE.
  • 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:42.150
  • THEY'RE IN HEAVEN, AND SO THAT'S
  • 00:08:42.150 --> 00:08:43.080
  • THE DIFFERENCE.
  • 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.270
  • HEAVEN IS THE PLACE WHERE WE GO,
  • 00:08:45.270 --> 00:08:47.180
  • REALLY, THE REAL "US," OUR SOUL
  • 00:08:47.180 --> 00:08:50.010
  • AND OUR SPIRIT, BUT WE PUT OUR
  • 00:08:50.010 --> 00:08:51.220
  • BODY-- AND THEN, ONE DAY, GOD
  • 00:08:51.220 --> 00:08:53.220
  • ISN'T GONNA FORGET ABOUT THE
  • 00:08:53.220 --> 00:08:55.000
  • BODY.
  • 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:55.160
  • ONE DAY, THE RAPTURE'S GONNA
  • 00:08:55.160 --> 00:08:56.120
  • COME, AND HE'S GONNA GET OUR
  • 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:57.140
  • BODIES OUT OF THE GRAVE AND TAKE
  • 00:08:57.140 --> 00:08:59.090
  • US UP TO HEAVEN, REUNITE OUR
  • 00:08:59.090 --> 00:09:00.190
  • BODIES WITH OUR SOUL AND SPIRIT,
  • 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:02.280
  • AND THE BIBLE SAYS, "AND SO
  • 00:09:02.280 --> 00:09:04.010
  • SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD."
  • 00:09:04.010 --> 00:09:04.290
  • ISN'T THAT GREAT?
  • 00:09:04.290 --> 00:09:06.270
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL!
  • 00:09:06.270 --> 00:09:07.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:09:07.290 --> 00:09:10.290
  • THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH
  • 00:09:10.290 --> 00:09:11.170
  • UNIVERSALISM.
  • 00:09:11.170 --> 00:09:13.270
  • THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT
  • 00:09:13.270 --> 00:09:15.140
  • EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:09:15.140 --> 00:09:17.150
  • THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO HEAVEN ARE
  • 00:09:17.150 --> 00:09:18.120
  • THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST
  • 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.260
  • IN JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:09:19.260 --> 00:09:21.110
  • THAT'S NOT MY WORD.
  • 00:09:21.110 --> 00:09:22.050
  • THAT'S NOT YOUR WORD.
  • 00:09:22.050 --> 00:09:24.140
  • IT'S THE BIBLE'S WORD.
  • 00:09:24.140 --> 00:09:25.040
  • - MATT: REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS
  • 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:25.250
  • WITH THE JACK CHICK TRACTS
  • 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:27.270
  • THOUGH?
  • 00:09:27.270 --> 00:09:28.270
  • REMEMBER, THE SECULAR PERSON OR
  • 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:30.210
  • THE UNBELIEVER GOES BEFORE GOD
  • 00:09:30.210 --> 00:09:32.090
  • AND THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
  • 00:09:32.090 --> 00:09:34.210
  • JUDGMENT, AND THEN THEY ARE
  • 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:36.140
  • ACTUALLY DESCENDED TO HELL AT
  • 00:09:36.140 --> 00:09:38.250
  • THAT POINT?
  • 00:09:38.250 --> 00:09:39.220
  • DOESN'T EVERYONE GO TO BE
  • 00:09:39.220 --> 00:09:41.080
  • JUDGED, AND THEN GO TO HELL?
  • 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:42.170
  • - DAVID: NO.
  • 00:09:42.170 --> 00:09:43.050
  • - MATT: NO?
  • 00:09:43.050 --> 00:09:44.030
  • - DAVID: THERE'S TWO JUDGMENTS.
  • 00:09:44.030 --> 00:09:45.020
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:09:45.020 --> 00:09:46.010
  • - DAVID: THERE'S THE JUDGMENT
  • 00:09:46.010 --> 00:09:46.230
  • SEAT OF CHRIST.
  • 00:09:46.230 --> 00:09:47.200
  • THAT TAKES PLACE RIGHT AFTER
  • 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:49.130
  • BELIEVERS GET TO HEAVEN, AND
  • 00:09:49.130 --> 00:09:50.270
  • IT'S NOT A JUDGMENT FOR EVIL.
  • 00:09:50.270 --> 00:09:52.200
  • IT'S A JUDGMENT FOR THE WORKS
  • 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.020
  • DONE IN THE FLESH.
  • 00:09:54.020 --> 00:09:55.080
  • IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S LIKE
  • 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.140
  • STANDING BEFORE THE JUDGE AT THE
  • 00:09:56.140 --> 00:09:58.030
  • END OF AN OLYMPIC RACE SO YOU
  • 00:09:58.030 --> 00:09:59.200
  • GET YOUR REWARDS FOR WHAT YOU'VE
  • 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.210
  • DONE ON THIS EARTH.
  • 00:10:01.210 --> 00:10:02.200
  • NO BELIEVER WILL EVER STAND
  • 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.000
  • BEFORE ANY JUDGMENT THAN THAT
  • 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:05.270
  • ONE.
  • 00:10:05.270 --> 00:10:08.060
  • AT THE END OF THE MILLENNIUM,
  • 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:09.050
  • THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT,
  • 00:10:09.050 --> 00:10:10.170
  • THAT'S ONE YOU DON'T WANNA BE IN
  • 00:10:10.170 --> 00:10:12.070
  • FRONT OF BECAUSE NOBODY THAT
  • 00:10:12.070 --> 00:10:13.150
  • GOES TO THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
  • 00:10:13.150 --> 00:10:15.130
  • JUDGMENT WILL EVER GET TO
  • 00:10:15.130 --> 00:10:16.020
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:10:16.020 --> 00:10:16.240
  • THAT'S ONLY FOR THE UNBELIEVERS.
  • 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:17.290
  • SO THE WAY YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS
  • 00:10:17.290 --> 00:10:19.070
  • THIS: THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF
  • 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:20.280
  • CHRIST IS ONLY FOR BELIEVERS,
  • 00:10:20.280 --> 00:10:22.190
  • AND THE GREAT WHITE THRONE
  • 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:24.180
  • JUDGMENT IS ONLY FOR
  • 00:10:24.180 --> 00:10:25.130
  • UNBELIEVERS.
  • 00:10:25.130 --> 00:10:26.170
  • IF YOU'RE AT THE GREAT WHITE
  • 00:10:26.170 --> 00:10:27.280
  • THRONE JUDGMENT, YOU IN A HEAP
  • 00:10:27.280 --> 00:10:28.190
  • OF TROUBLE.
  • 00:10:28.190 --> 00:10:30.060
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO IF YOU'RE AN
  • 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:31.080
  • UNBELIEVER AND YOU DIE NOW, YOU
  • 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:32.040
  • DON'T GO TO ANY CURRENT
  • 00:10:32.040 --> 00:10:34.190
  • JUDGMENT?
  • 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:36.100
  • YOU JUST GO DIRECTLY TO HELL?
  • 00:10:36.100 --> 00:10:37.220
  • - DAVID: WELL, THE BIBLE
  • 00:10:37.220 --> 00:10:39.200
  • TEACHES THAT THERE IS A PLACE
  • 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.190
  • CALLED SHEOL, AND SHEOL IS A
  • 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:43.120
  • SPLIT PLACE.
  • 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:44.180
  • HALF OF IT IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE
  • 00:10:44.180 --> 00:10:45.230
  • UNBELIEVERS, AND THE OTHER HALF
  • 00:10:45.230 --> 00:10:47.000
  • IS PARADISE.
  • 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.200
  • REMEMBER WHEN THE THIEF ON THE
  • 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.090
  • CROSS RECEIVED THE LORD?
  • 00:10:50.090 --> 00:10:53.080
  • THE LORD SAID, "TODAY YOU SHALL
  • 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:55.020
  • BE WITH ME IN PARADISE."
  • 00:10:55.030 --> 00:10:58.030
  • AND THEN THE BIBLE TEACHES
  • 00:10:58.030 --> 00:10:58.220
  • THAT, WHEN JESUS CAME OUT
  • 00:10:58.220 --> 00:10:59.120
  • OF THE GRAVE,
  • 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:00.200
  • HE TOOK CAPTIVE THOSE WHO
  • 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.150
  • WERE IN PARADISE, AND THEY'RE
  • 00:11:02.150 --> 00:11:03.200
  • NOW WITH HIM IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.050
  • SO THE POINT IS, IF YOU DON'T
  • 00:11:05.050 --> 00:11:07.250
  • ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST IN THIS
  • 00:11:07.250 --> 00:11:10.070
  • LIFETIME, THERE'S NO SECOND
  • 00:11:10.070 --> 00:11:11.040
  • CHANCE.
  • 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:12.240
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:13.230
  • - DAVID: YOU DON'T GET A
  • 00:11:13.230 --> 00:11:14.120
  • DO-OVER.
  • 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:14.280
  • - MATT: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:14.280 --> 00:11:15.140
  • - DAVID: GOD DOESN'T HAVE A
  • 00:11:15.140 --> 00:11:16.050
  • PLAN B.
  • 00:11:16.050 --> 00:11:16.240
  • HE'S GOT ONE PLAN.
  • 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:17.240
  • IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PLAN.
  • 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:18.280
  • HE'S WILLING TO TAKE ANYBODY TO
  • 00:11:18.280 --> 00:11:20.200
  • HEAVEN, NO MATTER WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:21.260
  • DONE, NO MATTER HOW FAR WE MAY
  • 00:11:21.260 --> 00:11:23.270
  • FEEL WE'RE AWAY FROM GOD, BUT IF
  • 00:11:23.270 --> 00:11:25.040
  • YOU MISS THAT PLAN, MATT, THE
  • 00:11:25.040 --> 00:11:27.250
  • SAD NEWS IS, IF YOU MISS THAT
  • 00:11:27.250 --> 00:11:30.100
  • PLAN, THERE IS NO OTHER PLAN.
  • 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:31.290
  • THERE'S NO SECOND WAY TO GO TO
  • 00:11:31.290 --> 00:11:32.220
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:11:32.220 --> 00:11:34.230
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:11:34.230 --> 00:11:35.200
  • THAT'S WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO
  • 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.180
  • RIGHT HERE WITH TRINITY
  • 00:11:36.180 --> 00:11:37.140
  • BROADCASTING.
  • 00:11:37.140 --> 00:11:38.200
  • - DAVID: AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.110
  • I LIKE TO SAY THIS TO THE PEOPLE
  • 00:11:40.110 --> 00:11:41.150
  • THAT ASK ME ABOUT THIS NETWORK:
  • 00:11:41.150 --> 00:11:43.030
  • TRINITY BROADCAST GIVES WINGS TO
  • 00:11:43.030 --> 00:11:45.000
  • THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION.
  • 00:11:45.070 --> 00:11:48.070
  • YOU TAKE IT WHERE IT COULD NEVER
  • 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:49.120
  • GO WITHOUT YOU, AND THERE ARE
  • 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.270
  • GONNA BE SO MANY PEOPLE IN
  • 00:11:50.270 --> 00:11:52.100
  • HEAVEN BECAUSE OF WHAT THIS
  • 00:11:52.100 --> 00:11:54.070
  • NETWORK DOES, AND I'M GONNA BE
  • 00:11:54.070 --> 00:11:56.020
  • VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:11:56.020 --> 00:11:58.030
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:58.030 --> 00:11:59.290
  • - MATT: WHILE WE'RE ON THAT
  • 00:11:59.290 --> 00:12:00.250
  • AND SOMEBODY IS HEARING ABOUT
  • 00:12:05.010 --> 00:12:05.220
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:12:05.220 --> 00:12:07.120
  • HEAVEN," INVITE PEOPLE TO GO TO
  • 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:08.220
  • HEAVEN WITH US.
  • 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:09.130
  • WHY NOT JUST-- LET'S NOT TALK
  • 00:12:09.130 --> 00:12:11.000
  • ABOUT HEAVEN WITHOUT GIVIN' AN
  • 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:11.210
  • OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH US.
  • 00:12:11.210 --> 00:12:13.060
  • - DAVID: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:12:13.060 --> 00:12:13.260
  • PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT MY JOB IS.
  • 00:12:13.260 --> 00:12:14.260
  • MY JOB IS TO GO TO HEAVEN AND
  • 00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:15.170
  • TAKE AS MANY PEOPLE WITH ME AS I
  • 00:12:15.170 --> 00:12:17.030
  • - MATT: THERE THEY ARE, RIGHT
  • 00:12:19.160 --> 00:12:20.070
  • THERE.
  • 00:12:20.070 --> 00:12:21.170
  • - DAVID: AND I WOULD JUST SAY
  • 00:12:21.170 --> 00:12:22.200
  • TO YOU THAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW
  • 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.070
  • FOR SURE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO TO
  • 00:12:25.070 --> 00:12:26.150
  • HEAVEN, THEN YOU CAN BE SURE
  • 00:12:26.150 --> 00:12:28.190
  • ABOUT THAT TODAY.
  • 00:12:28.190 --> 00:12:30.080
  • YOU CAN ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS
  • 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:31.210
  • YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR.
  • 00:12:31.210 --> 00:12:33.220
  • YOU CAN ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOU
  • 00:12:33.220 --> 00:12:35.040
  • FOR YOUR SIN, AND ACKNOWLEDGE
  • 00:12:35.040 --> 00:12:37.170
  • THAT YOU'RE A SINNER.
  • 00:12:37.170 --> 00:12:38.090
  • AND HE PROMISES THAT, IF YOU
  • 00:12:38.090 --> 00:12:39.160
  • WILL RECEIVE HIM AS YOUR OWN
  • 00:12:39.160 --> 00:12:41.000
  • PERSONAL SAVIOR, THE GIFT OF GOD
  • 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.110
  • IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS
  • 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:45.190
  • CHRIST OUR LORD.
  • 00:12:45.190 --> 00:12:48.030
  • YOU CAN GO TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:12:48.030 --> 00:12:48.280
  • - MATT: IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO
  • 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:50.290
  • PRAY THAT SIMPLE PRAYER, HOW DO
  • 00:12:50.290 --> 00:12:51.230
  • THEY DO THAT?
  • 00:12:51.230 --> 00:12:53.030
  • - DAVID: HERE'S WHAT I LIKE TO
  • 00:12:53.030 --> 00:12:53.250
  • DO.
  • 00:12:53.250 --> 00:12:54.200
  • I LIKE TO PRAY WITH PEOPLE
  • 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:55.140
  • OFTENTIMES AT THE END OF OUR
  • 00:12:55.140 --> 00:12:56.240
  • SERVICES, AND I JUST SAY, "PRAY
  • 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.090
  • THIS PRAYER WITH ME: 'DEAR GOD,
  • 00:12:58.090 --> 00:12:59.160
  • I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M A SINNER.
  • 00:12:59.160 --> 00:13:01.180
  • I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I CANNOT GET
  • 00:13:01.180 --> 00:13:03.230
  • TO HEAVEN ON MY OWN.
  • 00:13:03.230 --> 00:13:05.160
  • I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I NEED YOU,
  • 00:13:05.160 --> 00:13:07.190
  • GOD, AND I THANK YOU FOR JESUS
  • 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:08.100
  • CHRIST.
  • 00:13:08.100 --> 00:13:10.110
  • HE'S THE ONE WHO CAME TO PAY FOR
  • 00:13:10.110 --> 00:13:11.030
  • ALL MY SIN.
  • 00:13:11.030 --> 00:13:13.020
  • LORD, JESUS, I RECEIVE YOU
  • 00:13:13.020 --> 00:13:15.140
  • TODAY.
  • 00:13:15.140 --> 00:13:16.100
  • I ACCEPT YOU AS MY PERSONAL
  • 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:17.040
  • SAVIOR.
  • 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:17.230
  • COME INTO MY HEART AND GIVE ME
  • 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:18.150
  • THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE WHICH
  • 00:13:18.150 --> 00:13:20.070
  • YOU PROMISED.
  • 00:13:20.070 --> 00:13:21.260
  • THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY
  • 00:13:21.260 --> 00:13:23.010
  • PRAYER.'"
  • 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:24.000
  • - MATT: AND BECAUSE OF FAITH IN
  • 00:13:25.150 --> 00:13:28.150
  • THAT PRAYER, PEOPLE GET TO GO TO
  • 00:13:28.150 --> 00:13:29.070
  • HEAVEN WITH THAT?
  • 00:13:29.070 --> 00:13:30.230
  • - DAVID: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:13:30.230 --> 00:13:31.250
  • THAT'S IT.
  • 00:13:31.250 --> 00:13:33.150
  • IT'S NOT BY WORKS OF
  • 00:13:33.150 --> 00:13:34.020
  • RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE
  • 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:34.220
  • DONE, BUT BY GOD'S GRACE.
  • 00:13:34.220 --> 00:13:35.110
  • HEAVEN IS A GIFT, BUT IT'S LIKE
  • 00:13:35.110 --> 00:13:36.260
  • ANY OTHER GIFT.
  • 00:13:36.260 --> 00:13:38.280
  • YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE IT.
  • 00:13:38.280 --> 00:13:40.130
  • YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT YOUR HAND
  • 00:13:40.130 --> 00:13:41.050
  • AND TAKE IT.
  • 00:13:41.050 --> 00:13:42.020
  • - LAURIE: AND IT'S FOR
  • 00:13:42.020 --> 00:13:43.060
  • EVERYONE.
  • 00:13:43.060 --> 00:13:43.230
  • - DAVID: AMEN!
  • 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:44.180
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:13:44.180 --> 00:13:45.110
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:13:45.110 --> 00:13:48.000
  • THAT'S WHAT I CALL REVEALING
  • 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:48.240
  • THE MYSTERY OF HEAVEN,
  • 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.150
  • THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT TBN AND
  • 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.010
  • MINISTRIES LIKE TURNING POINT--
  • 00:13:54.010 --> 00:13:55.010
  • BY THE WAY, I WANNA JUST, KIND
  • 00:13:55.010 --> 00:13:56.240
  • OF, BRAG ON YOU JUST FOR A
  • 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.190
  • SECOND.
  • 00:13:59.190 --> 00:14:00.200
  • FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE VERY
  • 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:01.250
  • HANDSOME HAIR, OKAY?
  • 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:03.110
  • - DAVID: YOU'RE ALWAYS TALKIN'
  • 00:14:03.110 --> 00:14:04.030
  • ABOUT MY HAIR!
  • 00:14:04.030 --> 00:14:05.040
  • I WISH YOU'D GET OFF MY HAIR!
  • 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:05.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:06.170
  • - MATT: NO, YOUR HAIR IS VERY
  • 00:14:06.170 --> 00:14:07.080
  • HANDSOME!
  • 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:07.230
  • SECONDLY, DR. JEREMIAH IS ADDING
  • 00:14:07.230 --> 00:14:09.030
  • ANOTHER RUN TO TRINITY
  • 00:14:10.040 --> 00:14:13.040
  • BROADCASTING AND IS JOINING US
  • 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:15.010
  • ON SATURDAYS AT 4 P.M., EASTERN
  • 00:14:16.040 --> 00:14:19.040
  • TIME, OKAY, SO 1 P.M.
  • 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.120
  • ON THE WEST COAST, 4 P.M.,
  • 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:25.020
  • EASTERN TIME, AND SO
  • 00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:25.270
  • DR. JEREMIAH IS ON TRINITY
  • 00:14:25.270 --> 00:14:28.010
  • BROADCASTING AND HIGHLY RATED.
  • 00:14:29.060 --> 00:14:32.060
  • PEOPLE LOVE YOUR MESSAGE.
  • 00:14:32.060 --> 00:14:32.250
  • KEEP DOIN' WHAT YOU'RE DOING,
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:33.160
  • AND KEEP REVEALING THE MYSTERIES
  • 00:14:33.160 --> 00:14:34.080
  • - LAURIE: OKAY, SO A LOT OF
  • 00:14:38.020 --> 00:14:38.220
  • PEOPLE THINK THAT,
  • 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:39.070
  • IF YOU ASK WHERE THEY'RE GONNA
  • 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:41.110
  • GO, THEY'LL SAY, "WELL, IF ALL
  • 00:14:41.110 --> 00:14:42.280
  • MY FRIENDS ARE GOIN' TO HELL, I
  • 00:14:42.280 --> 00:14:43.200
  • WANNA GO TO HELL TO BE WITH ALL
  • 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:44.260
  • MY FRIENDS."
  • 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:46.240
  • - MATT: HEAVEN MIGHT BE BORING
  • 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:47.250
  • OR SOMETHING.
  • 00:14:47.250 --> 00:14:49.140
  • - LAURIE: HEAVEN MIGHT BE
  • 00:14:49.140 --> 00:14:50.140
  • BORING.
  • 00:14:50.140 --> 00:14:51.000
  • WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
  • 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:51.280
  • - DAVID: WELL, I TELL YA, THE
  • 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:52.240
  • FIRST MINUTE THEY'RE IN HELL,
  • 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.190
  • THEY'LL KNOW WHAT A STUPID THING
  • 00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:54.110
  • THAT IS TO SAY.
  • 00:14:54.110 --> 00:14:54.270
  • - MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
  • 00:14:54.270 --> 00:14:55.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:55.250 --> 00:14:56.130
  • - DAVID: FIRST OF ALL, HELL IS,
  • 00:14:56.130 --> 00:14:57.110
  • AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS, YOU
  • 00:14:57.110 --> 00:14:59.050
  • KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE IT IS, IT'S
  • 00:14:59.050 --> 00:15:00.290
  • A PLACE OF ISOLATION.
  • 00:15:00.290 --> 00:15:03.020
  • IT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE IS
  • 00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:06.070
  • INTENSE LONELINESS, WHERE THERE
  • 00:15:06.070 --> 00:15:08.180
  • WILL NOT BE RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:15:08.180 --> 00:15:10.230
  • HELL IS THE ABSENCE OF
  • 00:15:10.230 --> 00:15:11.200
  • RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.150
  • PEOPLE WILL SPEND ETERNITY IN
  • 00:15:13.150 --> 00:15:14.200
  • HELL ALONE.
  • 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.030
  • THERE WON'T BE ANY PARTIES DOWN
  • 00:15:17.030 --> 00:15:17.260
  • THERE.
  • 00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:18.150
  • THERE WON'T BE ANY, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:15:18.150 --> 00:15:19.210
  • ALL THE THINGS THESE PEOPLE TALK
  • 00:15:19.210 --> 00:15:21.110
  • ABOUT.
  • 00:15:21.110 --> 00:15:22.220
  • BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE,
  • 00:15:22.220 --> 00:15:24.000
  • LAURIE, 'CAUSE YOU ASKED THE
  • 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.200
  • QUESTION, IS THAT EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.280
  • TALKIN' ABOUT HOW BORING
  • 00:15:26.280 --> 00:15:28.260
  • HEAVEN'S GONNA BE, AND I WANNA
  • 00:15:28.260 --> 00:15:30.100
  • TELL YOU WHY HEAVEN'S NOT GONNA
  • 00:15:30.100 --> 00:15:31.270
  • BE BORING.
  • 00:15:31.270 --> 00:15:33.260
  • FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE GOD IS NOT
  • 00:15:33.260 --> 00:15:34.270
  • BORING.
  • 00:15:34.270 --> 00:15:35.280
  • - MATT: GOT IT!
  • 00:15:35.280 --> 00:15:36.140
  • - DAVID: I MEAN, AMEN?
  • 00:15:36.140 --> 00:15:37.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:15:37.150 --> 00:15:38.120
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT, THE CREATOR OF
  • 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.100
  • THE UNIVERSE!
  • 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:39.270
  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:39.270 --> 00:15:41.060
  • I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHIN' REALLY,
  • 00:15:41.060 --> 00:15:41.280
  • REALLY CONTROVERSIAL HERE.
  • 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:43.060
  • GOD CREATED FUN!
  • 00:15:43.060 --> 00:15:45.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:15:45.250 --> 00:15:46.230
  • HE DID!
  • 00:15:46.230 --> 00:15:47.110
  • YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE GREATEST
  • 00:15:47.110 --> 00:15:48.220
  • PLEASURE IN MARRIAGE?
  • 00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:52.040
  • GOD CREATED THAT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:15:52.040 --> 00:15:53.210
  • - LAURIE: I KNEW YOU WERE
  • 00:15:53.210 --> 00:15:55.180
  • THINKIN' ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:15:55.180 --> 00:15:56.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:15:56.110 --> 00:15:57.050
  • - MATT: YEAH, I JUST DIDN'T SAY
  • 00:15:57.050 --> 00:15:58.030
  • IT.
  • 00:15:58.030 --> 00:15:59.100
  • I WASN'T GONNA SAY IT.
  • 00:15:59.100 --> 00:15:59.270
  • - DAVID: WELL, I WAS GONNA LET
  • 00:15:59.270 --> 00:16:00.210
  • HIM SAY IT.
  • 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:01.070
  • - MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
  • 00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:01.230
  • - DAVID: SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS
  • 00:16:01.230 --> 00:16:02.290
  • THIS: IF YOU'RE GONNA GO TO
  • 00:16:02.290 --> 00:16:03.280
  • GOD'S HEAVEN AND BE WITH GOD,
  • 00:16:03.280 --> 00:16:05.000
  • YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET USED TO
  • 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.190
  • NOT BEING BORED 'CAUSE GOD IS
  • 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:07.160
  • NOT BORING.
  • 00:16:07.160 --> 00:16:09.230
  • SECONDLY, WHEN YOU GET TO
  • 00:16:09.230 --> 00:16:11.170
  • HEAVEN, YOU WON'T BE BORING
  • 00:16:11.170 --> 00:16:13.130
  • BECAUSE GOD'S GONNA MAKE YOU
  • 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:14.220
  • OVER BEFORE YOU GET THERE.
  • 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:16.130
  • I MEAN, YOU MIGHT BE THE MOST
  • 00:16:16.130 --> 00:16:18.070
  • BORING PERSON ON EARTH, AND GOD
  • 00:16:18.070 --> 00:16:20.010
  • MIGHT HAVE A BIG JOB TO GET YOU
  • 00:16:20.010 --> 00:16:21.250
  • STRAIGHTENED OUT, BUT BETWEEN
  • 00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:23.120
  • EARTH AND HEAVEN, HE'S GONNA FIX
  • 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.290
  • YOU SO YOU WILL NEVER BE BORING
  • 00:16:24.290 --> 00:16:27.010
  • AGAIN.
  • 00:16:27.010 --> 00:16:28.190
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:16:28.190 --> 00:16:29.170
  • - DAVID: NOW, HERE'S THE THIRD
  • 00:16:29.170 --> 00:16:30.090
  • REASON...
  • 00:16:30.090 --> 00:16:31.030
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:32.090
  • YES, SO, IF GOD'S GONNA FIX
  • 00:16:33.050 --> 00:16:36.050
  • YOU SO YOU WON'T BE BORING,
  • 00:16:36.050 --> 00:16:37.020
  • HE'S GONNA DO THAT WITH
  • 00:16:37.020 --> 00:16:38.200
  • EVERYBODY ELSE, SO WHEN YOU GET
  • 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:39.190
  • TO HEAVEN, THERE WON'T BE ANY
  • 00:16:39.190 --> 00:16:40.100
  • BORING PEOPLE THERE, RIGHT?
  • 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:41.140
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:41.140 --> 00:16:42.040
  • AND HERE'S THE OTHER REASON THAT
  • 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:43.260
  • I HAVE IN THIS BOOK,
  • 00:16:43.260 --> 00:16:45.100
  • IS THAT HEAVEN IS THE PLACE
  • 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:48.050
  • YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN LOOKING FOR.
  • 00:16:48.050 --> 00:16:49.250
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:52.000
  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE
  • 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:52.250
  • SAYS THAT, WHEN GOD CREATED US,
  • 00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:54.260
  • HE PUT A VACUUM IN US THAT
  • 00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:56.180
  • CANNOT BE FILLED BUT BY ANYTHING
  • 00:16:56.180 --> 00:16:58.150
  • BUT GOD, AND THERE'S A LONGING
  • 00:16:58.150 --> 00:17:00.240
  • IN OUR HEART FOR HEAVEN THAT WE
  • 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:01.290
  • DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE.
  • 00:17:01.290 --> 00:17:03.030
  • WE'RE WAITING FOR THE
  • 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:03.260
  • REDEMPTION.
  • 00:17:03.260 --> 00:17:05.190
  • THE REDEMPTION IS HEAVEN.
  • 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:07.050
  • SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS
  • 00:17:07.050 --> 00:17:08.140
  • SO GREAT DOWN HERE-- LET'S BE
  • 00:17:08.140 --> 00:17:10.080
  • HONEST.
  • 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:11.100
  • LET'S ALL BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:17:11.100 --> 00:17:13.040
  • IT ALWAYS LEAVES YOU A LITTLE
  • 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:14.130
  • BIT SHORT, DOESN'T IT?
  • 00:17:14.130 --> 00:17:15.100
  • YOU GET ALL THE WAY UP, AND YOU
  • 00:17:15.100 --> 00:17:16.110
  • THINK IT'S GONNA BE SO COOL, AND
  • 00:17:16.110 --> 00:17:17.210
  • IT IS COOL, BUT IT'S NOT AS COOL
  • 00:17:17.210 --> 00:17:19.010
  • AS YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE
  • 00:17:19.010 --> 00:17:20.190
  • OR THAT YOU WISH IT WOULD BE.
  • 00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:21.290
  • WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN, MAN,
  • 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:23.140
  • IT'S ALL COOL, ALL THE WAY
  • 00:17:23.140 --> 00:17:24.240
  • THROUGH.
  • 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.230
  • EVERYTHING YOU DESIRED WILL BE
  • 00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:27.020
  • YOURS.
  • 00:17:27.020 --> 00:17:28.000
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL!
  • 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:28.250
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:28.250 --> 00:17:30.240
  • WE ARE TALKING WITH
  • 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.240
  • DR. DAVID JEREMIAH.
  • 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.250
  • "TURNING POINT" HAS BEEN
  • 00:17:33.250 --> 00:17:35.020
  • ON TBN, AND DR. JEREMIAH
  • 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.170
  • HAS BEEN ON-- HOW MANY YEARS
  • 00:17:36.170 --> 00:17:38.160
  • DO YOU THINK IT'S BEEN NOW?
  • 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.080
  • - DAVID: I DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:17:39.080 --> 00:17:40.010
  • I CAN'T--
  • 00:17:40.010 --> 00:17:40.200
  • - MATT: IT'S DECADES.
  • 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:41.070
  • - DAVID: YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HERE
  • 00:17:41.070 --> 00:17:41.290
  • FOR A LONG TIME, YEAH.
  • 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:42.250
  • - MATT: AND DR. JEREMIAH'S
  • 00:17:42.250 --> 00:17:43.160
  • BROADCAST IS ON TBN.
  • 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.160
  • WE LOVE HIM.
  • 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.220
  • IF WE ARE INTRODUCING HIM TO YOU
  • 00:17:46.220 --> 00:17:48.190
  • FOR SOME REASON, IF YOU'RE NEW
  • 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:51.220
  • TO CHRISTIAN TELEVISION, TAKE A
  • 00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:52.150
  • LOOK AT THIS LITTLE BIO PIECE.
  • 00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:54.030
  • GET TO KNOW DR. JEREMIAH A
  • 00:17:54.030 --> 00:17:55.220
  • LITTLE BIT BETTER.
  • 00:17:55.220 --> 00:17:56.170
  • - FEMALE NARRATOR: PASTOR...
  • 00:17:59.070 --> 00:18:00.030
  • - DAVID: THE REASON GOD GIVES
  • 00:18:00.030 --> 00:18:00.240
  • US HEALTH AND LIFE AND ENERGY AS
  • 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:02.110
  • HIS PEOPLE IS SO THAT WE CAN BE
  • 00:18:02.110 --> 00:18:03.040
  • HIS DIVINE AMBASSADORS.
  • 00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:05.210
  • - NARRATOR: TEACHER...
  • 00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:06.260
  • - DAVID: AND YOU PUT YOUR TRUST
  • 00:18:06.260 --> 00:18:08.140
  • IN JESUS CHRIST AND IN HIM
  • 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:09.190
  • ALONE, PLUS OR MINUS NOTHING.
  • 00:18:09.190 --> 00:18:11.280
  • - NARRATOR: BEST-SELLING
  • 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:13.200
  • AUTHOR, DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S
  • 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.050
  • MESSAGES HAVE BEEN A BEACON OF
  • 00:18:15.050 --> 00:18:16.170
  • LIGHT TO AUDIENCES WORLDWIDE.
  • 00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:18.140
  • AS FOUNDER AND CEO OF TURNING
  • 00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:20.240
  • POINT MINISTRIES, HIS TELEVISION
  • 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.100
  • AND RADIO PROGRAMS HAVE GAINED
  • 00:18:22.100 --> 00:18:24.030
  • INTERNATIONAL ACCLAIM.
  • 00:18:24.030 --> 00:18:25.140
  • HE'S AUTHORED MORE THAN 70
  • 00:18:25.140 --> 00:18:28.120
  • BOOKS, INCLUDING, "AGENTS OF
  • 00:18:28.120 --> 00:18:29.200
  • THE APOCALYPSE," "AGENTS OF
  • 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.280
  • BABYLON," "PEOPLE ARE
  • 00:18:30.280 --> 00:18:32.240
  • ASKING...IS THIS THE END?"
  • 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:33.220
  • AND "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:34.280
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:18:34.280 --> 00:18:36.220
  • DR. JEREMIAH IS SENIOR PASTOR
  • 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:38.040
  • OF SHADOW MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY
  • 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:40.020
  • CHURCH IN EL CAJON, CALIFORNIA.
  • 00:18:40.020 --> 00:18:42.110
  • HIS COMMITMENT TO TRUTH AND HIS
  • 00:18:42.110 --> 00:18:44.160
  • ABILITY TO APPLY BIBLICAL
  • 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.000
  • PRINCIPLES TO EVERYDAY LIVING
  • 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:47.050
  • HAS MADE HIM A HIGHLY
  • 00:18:47.050 --> 00:18:48.140
  • SOUGHT-AFTER SPEAKER.
  • 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:50.060
  • DR. DAVID JEREMIAH, HERE ON
  • 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:51.140
  • "PRAISE."
  • 00:18:51.140 --> 00:18:54.020
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:18:54.020 --> 00:18:56.270
  • - MATT: WE ARE TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:18:56.270 --> 00:18:57.180
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:18:57.180 --> 00:18:58.250
  • I JUST WANNA GET A BIG, GIANT
  • 00:18:59.260 --> 00:19:02.280
  • WIDE SHOT OF THE AUDIENCE FOR
  • 00:19:02.280 --> 00:19:04.090
  • ME, PAUL, AND LET ME JUST ASK A
  • 00:19:04.090 --> 00:19:07.010
  • QUESTION TO THIS AUDIENCE, KIND
  • 00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:08.270
  • OF A BIG, NICE, BIG WIDE SHOT
  • 00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:10.150
  • AND...
  • 00:19:10.150 --> 00:19:12.040
  • BIG WIDE SHOT, BIG...
  • 00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:14.190
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:15.070
  • THERE IT IS, GOOD.
  • 00:19:15.070 --> 00:19:15.290
  • OKAY, HOW MANY WANNA GO TO
  • 00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:16.180
  • HEAVEN?
  • 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:17.010
  • OKAY, ALL RIGHT, SO CAN YOU SHOW
  • 00:19:17.010 --> 00:19:17.230
  • ME BOTH SIDES?
  • 00:19:17.230 --> 00:19:18.200
  • IS THERE THAT BIG OF A SHOT?
  • 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.260
  • DO YOU HAVE THAT?
  • 00:19:20.260 --> 00:19:23.150
  • 'CAUSE I THINK EVEN PEOPLE ON
  • 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:25.110
  • THIS SIDE OF THE AUDIENCE WANNA
  • 00:19:25.110 --> 00:19:26.170
  • GO TO HEAVEN TOO, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:27.100
  • THINK!
  • 00:19:27.100 --> 00:19:28.240
  • SO, ALL RIGHT, THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.100
  • IF YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN, STAND
  • 00:19:30.100 --> 00:19:31.260
  • UP AND CHEER, RIGHT NOW, GO!
  • 00:19:31.260 --> 00:19:34.190
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:19:35.010 --> 00:19:38.010
  • - AUDIENCE: WOO!
  • 00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:44.080
  • - MATT: I LIKE IT!
  • 00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:47.120
  • IS THERE...
  • 00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:47.290
  • OKAY, QUIET AGAIN.
  • 00:19:47.290 --> 00:19:48.140
  • IS THERE ANY LUNATIC THAT WANTS
  • 00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:51.080
  • TO GO TO HELL?
  • 00:19:51.080 --> 00:19:52.100
  • - AUDIENCE: NO.
  • 00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:53.140
  • - MATT: NO?
  • 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:54.040
  • OKAY, SIT DOWN.
  • 00:19:54.040 --> 00:19:54.210
  • LOVE IT.
  • 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:55.230
  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:56.150
  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN.
  • 00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:58.140
  • WE'RE HERE.
  • 00:19:58.140 --> 00:20:00.000
  • WE WELCOME YOU WHEREVER YOU'RE
  • 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.230
  • WATCHING AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:20:00.230 --> 00:20:02.040
  • OKAY, WHAT'S IT GONNA BE LIKE IN
  • 00:20:06.020 --> 00:20:08.140
  • HEAVEN FOR OUR MATERIAL BODIES?
  • 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:11.110
  • WHAT'S THAT LIKE UP THERE?
  • 00:20:11.110 --> 00:20:13.070
  • - DAVID: OKAY, LET ME ANSWER
  • 00:20:13.070 --> 00:20:14.020
  • THAT QUESTION, BUT FIRST I HAVE
  • 00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:15.050
  • TO TELL YOU THIS LITTLE STORY
  • 00:20:15.050 --> 00:20:15.260
  • ABOUT PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN.
  • 00:20:15.260 --> 00:20:16.260
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:20:16.260 --> 00:20:18.050
  • - DAVID: THIS TEACHER WAS
  • 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:19.210
  • STANDIN' IN FRONT OF HER SUNDAY
  • 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:20.130
  • SCHOOL CLASS, AND SHE SAID, "HOW
  • 00:20:20.130 --> 00:20:21.060
  • MANY OF YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN?"
  • 00:20:21.060 --> 00:20:21.280
  • AND EVERYBODY RAISED THEIR HAND
  • 00:20:21.280 --> 00:20:22.200
  • BUT A LITTLE BOY SITTIN' IN THE
  • 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.030
  • BACK ROW, AND SHE WENT BACK
  • 00:20:25.030 --> 00:20:28.000
  • THERE, AND SHE SAID, "JIMMY,
  • 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:28.260
  • DON'T YOU WANNA GO TO HEAVEN
  • 00:20:28.260 --> 00:20:29.200
  • WHEN YOU DIE?"
  • 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.090
  • "OH, YES," HE SAID, "WHEN I DIE,
  • 00:20:31.090 --> 00:20:32.270
  • BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTIN'
  • 00:20:32.270 --> 00:20:34.030
  • UP A LOAD FOR TONIGHT!"
  • 00:20:34.030 --> 00:20:35.150
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:35.150 --> 00:20:36.020
  • THAT'S THE WAY A LOT
  • 00:20:36.020 --> 00:20:37.070
  • OF PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT HEAVEN.
  • 00:20:37.070 --> 00:20:38.030
  • THEY WANNA GO TO HEAVEN WHEN
  • 00:20:38.030 --> 00:20:39.020
  • THEY DIE, BUT THEY'RE OKAY IF
  • 00:20:39.020 --> 00:20:40.250
  • IT'S A WAY OUT IN THE FUTURE,
  • 00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:42.120
  • YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIFE IS
  • 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:43.260
  • SOMETHING WE ENJOY.
  • 00:20:43.260 --> 00:20:45.040
  • THEN THE BIBLE SPEAKS SO CLEARLY
  • 00:20:49.030 --> 00:20:50.210
  • ABOUT HOW OUR TEARS WILL BE
  • 00:20:50.210 --> 00:20:51.290
  • GONE, OUR PAIN WILL BE GONE.
  • 00:20:51.290 --> 00:20:52.260
  • WE'LL BE DIFFERENT, AND HERE'S
  • 00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:54.280
  • WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS.
  • 00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:57.250
  • THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT, WHEN WE
  • 00:20:57.250 --> 00:20:58.220
  • DIE, IF WE DIE BEFORE THE LORD
  • 00:20:59.050 --> 00:21:02.070
  • COMES BACK, OUR BODIES GO IN THE
  • 00:21:02.070 --> 00:21:03.060
  • GRAVE.
  • 00:21:03.060 --> 00:21:04.100
  • WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES, OUR
  • 00:21:04.100 --> 00:21:05.190
  • BODIES WILL BE RESURRECTED, AND
  • 00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:07.110
  • WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE
  • 00:21:08.110 --> 00:21:11.110
  • SAME KIND OF BODY THAT JESUS HAD
  • 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.160
  • WHEN HE CAME OUT OF THE GRAVE ON
  • 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.010
  • RESURRECTION SUNDAY.
  • 00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:18.070
  • WE WILL HAVE BODIES LIKE HIS,
  • 00:21:18.070 --> 00:21:20.290
  • AND THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE
  • 00:21:20.290 --> 00:21:22.140
  • SCRIPTURE, TRANSFORMED INTO HIS
  • 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:23.060
  • BODY.
  • 00:21:23.060 --> 00:21:24.060
  • THE SCRIPTURE SAYS WE WILL BE
  • 00:21:24.060 --> 00:21:26.140
  • CHANGED.
  • 00:21:26.140 --> 00:21:27.120
  • SO LISTEN TO ME: ALL OF THE
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:28.230
  • BLEMISHES YOU HAVE, THOSE OF YOU
  • 00:21:28.230 --> 00:21:31.190
  • WHO STRUGGLE WITH WEIGHT, THOSE
  • 00:21:31.190 --> 00:21:34.060
  • OF YOU WHO HAVE ALL THESE
  • 00:21:34.060 --> 00:21:34.250
  • PROBLEMS, ON THE WAY UP, IT'S
  • 00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:36.130
  • ALL GONNA BE STRAIGHTENED OUT,
  • 00:21:36.130 --> 00:21:37.250
  • AND YOU'RE GONNA ARRIVE IN
  • 00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:39.070
  • HEAVEN, EVERYTHING PERFECT.
  • 00:21:39.070 --> 00:21:41.140
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:46.280
  • - MATT: YOU MENTIONED EARLIER
  • 00:21:46.280 --> 00:21:47.220
  • IN THE BROADCAST, DR. JEREMIAH,
  • 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:49.200
  • THAT BOTH OF YOUR PARENTS ARE IN
  • 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:51.130
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:52.150
  • BOTH OF MY PARENTS ARE IN
  • 00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:53.120
  • HEAVEN, AND I REMEMBER WHEN MY
  • 00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:55.230
  • MOM PASSED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I
  • 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.240
  • POSTED A SHOT OF MY MOM ON
  • 00:22:00.020 --> 00:22:03.020
  • SOCIAL MEDIA WITH MY DAD, AND I
  • 00:22:03.020 --> 00:22:05.190
  • THINK THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN ON
  • 00:22:05.190 --> 00:22:07.210
  • EITHER-- KIND OF, LIKE A
  • 00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:10.030
  • HONEYMOON PICTURE.
  • 00:22:10.030 --> 00:22:12.180
  • I THINK IT WAS ON THEIR
  • 00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:14.200
  • HONEYMOON, AND THEY WERE BOTH
  • 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:15.210
  • RADIANT AND SMILING, AND THEY
  • 00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:17.140
  • DON'T HAVE ANY WRINKLES, AND,
  • 00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:18.060
  • YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BOTH REAL
  • 00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:20.230
  • TRIM AND, YOU KNOW, AND I SAID
  • 00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:23.020
  • SOMETHING LIKE, "THIS, I
  • 00:22:23.080 --> 00:22:26.080
  • BELIEVE, IS WHAT MY PARENTS LOOK
  • 00:22:26.080 --> 00:22:27.170
  • LIKE TODAY, NOW THAT THEY'RE
  • 00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:29.100
  • TOGETHER IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:22:29.100 --> 00:22:32.100
  • WHAT THEY MINISTERED ABOUT, WHAT
  • 00:22:32.100 --> 00:22:34.280
  • THEY BUILT TRINITY TO TELL
  • 00:22:34.280 --> 00:22:36.040
  • PEOPLE ABOUT, THEY'RE GETTING TO
  • 00:22:36.040 --> 00:22:38.150
  • EXPERIENCE TOGETHER TODAY, AND I
  • 00:22:38.150 --> 00:22:41.010
  • POSTED THAT, THIS RADIANT
  • 00:22:41.050 --> 00:22:44.050
  • PICTURE OF MY MOM AND DAD.
  • 00:22:44.050 --> 00:22:45.220
  • I REMEMBER DOING THAT.
  • 00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:47.080
  • THE IDEA THOUGH THAT HEAVEN
  • 00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:50.020
  • ISN'T GONNA BE BORING, THAT
  • 00:22:50.020 --> 00:22:50.280
  • WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, AS YOU
  • 00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:52.060
  • DESCRIBE, A SUPER BODY, WHAT
  • 00:22:52.060 --> 00:22:54.110
  • ELSE ABOUT HEAVEN?
  • 00:22:54.110 --> 00:22:57.000
  • - LAURIE: DON'T YOU THINK WE'RE
  • 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:58.040
  • GONNA BE LEARNING ABOUT GOD FOR
  • 00:22:58.040 --> 00:22:59.020
  • ETERNITY?
  • 00:22:59.020 --> 00:22:59.220
  • - DAVID: WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS,
  • 00:22:59.220 --> 00:23:01.200
  • "WE WILL KNOW, EVEN AS WE ARE
  • 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:02.260
  • KNOWN."
  • 00:23:02.260 --> 00:23:04.040
  • WE WILL COME TO KNOW HIM
  • 00:23:04.040 --> 00:23:06.210
  • SOME OF MY FRIENDS SAY THAT,
  • 00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.150
  • WHILE THERE WILL BE WORSHIP IN
  • 00:23:10.150 --> 00:23:13.090
  • HEAVEN, MY MINISTER OF MUSIC IS
  • 00:23:13.090 --> 00:23:14.260
  • GONNA HAVE A JOB, BUT SINCE
  • 00:23:14.260 --> 00:23:17.150
  • EVERYBODY'S GONNA KNOW
  • 00:23:17.150 --> 00:23:18.290
  • EVERYTHING WHEN THEY GET THERE,
  • 00:23:18.290 --> 00:23:20.040
  • I'M UNEMPLOYED.
  • 00:23:20.040 --> 00:23:21.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:23.010
  • BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:23:23.010 --> 00:23:24.060
  • I BELIEVE THERE'LL BE LEARNING
  • 00:23:24.060 --> 00:23:24.270
  • GETTING TO KNOW THE LORD DEEPER,
  • 00:23:27.050 --> 00:23:28.250
  • GETTING TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HIM.
  • 00:23:28.250 --> 00:23:31.010
  • - LAURIE: WHAT ABOUT BABIES?
  • 00:23:31.010 --> 00:23:32.080
  • - DAVID: WELL, THAT'S A-- YOU
  • 00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:35.220
  • KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE
  • 00:23:35.220 --> 00:23:37.270
  • FIRST FUNERAL I EVER HAD AS A
  • 00:23:37.270 --> 00:23:39.010
  • PASTOR, WAY, WAY BACK, WHEN I
  • 00:23:39.010 --> 00:23:40.000
  • FIRST STARTED, WAS A BABY THAT
  • 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.060
  • DIED IN A CRIB DEATH, AND I WAS
  • 00:23:42.060 --> 00:23:44.270
  • SO TOTALLY UNPREPARED.
  • 00:23:45.220 --> 00:23:48.220
  • I'M NOT SURE WHAT I SAID OR WHAT
  • 00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:50.070
  • I DID, BUT I REMEMBER BEING VERY
  • 00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:52.140
  • TROUBLED ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:54.010
  • WHAT HAPPENS TO A LITTLE CHILD
  • 00:23:54.010 --> 00:23:55.130
  • THAT DIES BEFORE WHAT PEOPLE
  • 00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:57.170
  • REFER TO AS "THE AGE OF
  • 00:23:57.170 --> 00:23:58.170
  • ACCOUNTABILITY," WHEN THEY CAN
  • 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.030
  • UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL?
  • 00:24:00.030 --> 00:24:01.100
  • AND I BELIEVE THE BIBLE GIVES US
  • 00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:03.260
  • A VERY CLEAR ANSWER TO THAT.
  • 00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:06.090
  • FIRST OF ALL, IT FITS IN WITH
  • 00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:08.000
  • THE CHARACTER AND COMPASSION OF
  • 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.290
  • THE LORD.
  • 00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:12.260
  • THE LORD LOVED CHILDREN, AND HE
  • 00:24:12.260 --> 00:24:13.180
  • SAID, "SUFFER THE LITTLE
  • 00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:14.180
  • CHILDREN TO COME UNTO ME...FOR
  • 00:24:14.180 --> 00:24:15.110
  • SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,"
  • 00:24:15.110 --> 00:24:16.130
  • BUT THE STORY THAT TEACHES US
  • 00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:18.140
  • WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO BABIES IS
  • 00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:19.270
  • IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:24:19.270 --> 00:24:21.070
  • YOU REMEMBER DAVID COMMITTED
  • 00:24:21.070 --> 00:24:23.220
  • THAT SIN WITH BATHSHEBA, AND
  • 00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:25.210
  • THERE WAS A CHILD BORN TO THAT
  • 00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:27.070
  • UNION, AND ONE OF THE
  • 00:24:27.080 --> 00:24:30.080
  • PUNISHMENTS THAT DAVID HAD TO
  • 00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:32.000
  • ENDURE FOR HIS SIN, BECAUSE
  • 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.220
  • NATHAN THE PROPHET TOLD HIM THIS
  • 00:24:33.220 --> 00:24:36.140
  • WAS GONNA HAPPEN, WAS THAT THAT
  • 00:24:36.140 --> 00:24:37.110
  • CHILD WAS GONNA DIE.
  • 00:24:37.110 --> 00:24:39.000
  • IN THE STORY, DAVID PUTS ON
  • 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.050
  • SACKCLOTH AND ASHES, AND HE
  • 00:24:41.050 --> 00:24:43.010
  • MOURNS WHILE THE CHILD IS STILL
  • 00:24:43.010 --> 00:24:44.230
  • LIVING.
  • 00:24:44.230 --> 00:24:46.040
  • HE MOURNS.
  • 00:24:46.040 --> 00:24:46.230
  • HE WON'T EAT.
  • 00:24:46.230 --> 00:24:47.120
  • HE WON'T PUT ON ANY-- ANOINT
  • 00:24:47.120 --> 00:24:48.210
  • HIMSELF WITH OIL.
  • 00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:51.170
  • BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, WHEN THE
  • 00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:52.280
  • CHILD DIED, DAVID WENT, GOT
  • 00:24:52.280 --> 00:24:54.050
  • DRESSED, I WOULD SAY, PROBABLY
  • 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:58.040
  • TOOK A SHOWER OR WHATEVER THEY
  • 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.210
  • DID, AND PUT ON OIL AND CAME
  • 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:00.290
  • BACK, AND HIS FRIENDS SAID, YOU
  • 00:25:00.290 --> 00:25:03.090
  • KNOW, "WHAT'S GOIN' ON, KING?
  • 00:25:03.090 --> 00:25:04.000
  • BEFORE THE CHILD DIED, YOU
  • 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.120
  • MOURNED, AND NOW THAT THE CHILD
  • 00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:08.100
  • IS DEAD, YOU'RE NOT MOURNING
  • 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:10.040
  • ANYMORE."
  • 00:25:10.040 --> 00:25:12.250
  • AND DAVID SAID, "I CANNOT
  • 00:25:12.250 --> 00:25:14.180
  • BRING THAT CHILD BACK TO ME,
  • 00:25:15.270 --> 00:25:18.270
  • BUT I SHALL GO TO THAT CHILD."
  • 00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:22.150
  • AND WHAT HE SAID WAS THAT
  • 00:25:22.150 --> 00:25:24.220
  • CHILD WAS IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:26.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:25:26.150 --> 00:25:27.050
  • AND THAT IS A POWERFUL
  • 00:25:27.050 --> 00:25:28.140
  • STORY, AND IT REMINDS US THAT
  • 00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:30.250
  • GOD CARES FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT
  • 00:25:31.100 --> 00:25:34.100
  • ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL
  • 00:25:34.100 --> 00:25:35.050
  • BECAUSE THAT'S WHO GOD IS.
  • 00:25:35.050 --> 00:25:37.040
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:25:37.040 --> 00:25:37.190
  • YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER
  • 00:25:38.050 --> 00:25:41.050
  • WHEN YOU WERE TEACHING THIS
  • 00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:46.280
  • BOOK, "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES
  • 00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:47.290
  • OF HEAVEN," THAT THERE WAS A LOT
  • 00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:49.180
  • OF CONNECTION, THAT THIS SERMON
  • 00:25:49.180 --> 00:25:52.040
  • CONNECTED TO FAMILIES, AND IT
  • 00:25:54.120 --> 00:25:57.120
  • CONNECTED IN, YOU KNOW, A
  • 00:25:57.120 --> 00:25:59.050
  • SIGNIFICANT WAY BECAUSE OF THIS
  • 00:25:59.050 --> 00:26:00.070
  • MATTER.
  • 00:26:00.090 --> 00:26:03.090
  • WHAT ENCOURAGEMENT DO YOU HAVE
  • 00:26:03.090 --> 00:26:04.240
  • FOR PARENTS?
  • 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.240
  • - DAVID: WELL, I'M GONNA TALK
  • 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:06.150
  • TO SOME PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, MATT,
  • 00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:08.050
  • WHO DON'T GET TALKED TO VERY
  • 00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:09.260
  • OFTEN.
  • 00:26:09.260 --> 00:26:11.080
  • - DAVID: A LOT OF WOMEN WHO
  • 00:26:14.140 --> 00:26:16.040
  • EXPERIENCE AN ABORTION, MAYBE
  • 00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:17.250
  • BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANY
  • 00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:18.150
  • BETTER OR MAYBE JUST OUT OF
  • 00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:20.130
  • REBELLION TO GOD, NEVER, EVER
  • 00:26:20.130 --> 00:26:21.120
  • CAN GET PAST THAT, BUT I WANNA
  • 00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:22.230
  • RUN THIS LOGIC BY YOU.
  • 00:26:22.230 --> 00:26:25.030
  • IF WE BELIEVE THAT LIFE BEGINS
  • 00:26:25.030 --> 00:26:26.260
  • AT CONCEPTION, WHICH THE BIBLE
  • 00:26:27.040 --> 00:26:30.040
  • TEACHES, THEN A CHILD IN THE
  • 00:26:31.090 --> 00:26:34.090
  • WOMB IS A PERSON, AND THAT
  • 00:26:34.090 --> 00:26:36.290
  • PERSON, I BELIEVE, IS GOING TO
  • 00:26:36.290 --> 00:26:38.220
  • BE IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:26:38.220 --> 00:26:40.090
  • I BELIEVE THAT MOTHERS WHO HAVE
  • 00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.190
  • MOURNED THE LOSS OF A CHILD THAT
  • 00:26:44.190 --> 00:26:46.240
  • THEY WISH THEY HAD NOT ALLOWED
  • 00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:50.120
  • TO GO, ARE GONNA HOLD THOSE
  • 00:26:50.120 --> 00:26:52.190
  • CHILDREN IN THEIR ARMS AGAIN IN
  • 00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:53.150
  • HEAVEN BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:26:53.150 --> 00:26:55.170
  • BABIES, NO MATTER WHAT AGE THEY
  • 00:26:55.170 --> 00:26:57.260
  • MAY BE, ARE COVERED UNDER THE
  • 00:26:57.260 --> 00:26:59.160
  • BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, AND THOSE
  • 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.060
  • BABIES ARE GONNA BE IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:27:02.060 --> 00:27:02.290
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:27:02.290 --> 00:27:03.260
  • WOW.
  • 00:27:03.260 --> 00:27:06.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:27:06.090 --> 00:27:07.240
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
  • 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:08.260
  • AND WE WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT
  • 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:14.040
  • THIS BOOK IS AVAILABLE FOR THE
  • 00:27:14.040 --> 00:27:14.250
  • ENTIRE MONTH OF JULY.
  • 00:27:14.250 --> 00:27:15.230
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:27:20.050 --> 00:27:20.260
  • - FEMALE: IS THERE A HEAVEN?
  • 00:27:20.260 --> 00:27:21.170
  • - MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
  • 00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:22.100
  • MEMBERS?
  • 00:27:22.100 --> 00:27:23.030
  • - MALE: WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
  • 00:27:23.030 --> 00:27:24.140
  • - FEMALE: IS THERE GONNA BE AN
  • 00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:25.060
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: THE ANSWER TO
  • 00:27:27.190 --> 00:27:28.110
  • THESE QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
  • 00:27:28.110 --> 00:27:29.030
  • DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
  • 00:27:29.030 --> 00:27:31.010
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:27:31.010 --> 00:27:31.230
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:34.150
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  • WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU GET
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  • - DAVID: AND SO IF YOU WERE TO
  • 00:28:22.110 --> 00:28:23.030
  • SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD JUST
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  • SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT TURNED
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  • AROUND, AND ALL THE HUES OF THE
  • 00:28:26.120 --> 00:28:29.120
  • GLORY OF THE CITY WOULD BE SO
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  • JESUS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND
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  • ENSURES THAT ONE BY ONE, LOST
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  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," OR THE
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  • "ANSWERS" BOOK COLLECTION, OR
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  • SET.
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  • DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:16.100
  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
  • 00:29:19.030 --> 00:29:21.270
  • - MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:29:21.270 --> 00:29:22.180
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:26.180
  • YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN
  • 00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:29.180
  • NAMED PAUL BILLHEIMER, AND WE
  • 00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:30.270
  • CALLED HIM "DAD BILLHEIMER"
  • 00:29:30.270 --> 00:29:33.080
  • AROUND HERE.
  • 00:29:33.080 --> 00:29:35.070
  • HE WAS VERY CLOSE TO MY MOM AND
  • 00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:36.240
  • DAD, AND HE WROTE A BOOK, CALLED
  • 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.060
  • "DESTINED FOR THE THRONE," AND
  • 00:29:38.060 --> 00:29:40.110
  • HE DESCRIBED LIVING ON EARTH AS
  • 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.000
  • BASICALLY ON-THE-JOB TRAINING
  • 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:48.150
  • FOR HEAVEN, THAT THINGS IN LIFE
  • 00:29:48.150 --> 00:29:51.020
  • SOMETIMES DON'T MAKE SENSE
  • 00:29:51.270 --> 00:29:54.270
  • UNLESS YOU ZOOM BACK BEYOND JUST
  • 00:29:55.020 --> 00:29:58.020
  • THE NATURAL LIFE AND INCLUDE
  • 00:29:58.020 --> 00:29:59.120
  • ETERNITY.
  • 00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:01.120
  • SOME THINGS THAT YOU JUST
  • 00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:02.270
  • WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:30:02.270 --> 00:30:04.010
  • JUST DON'T SEEM FAIR, SO
  • 00:30:04.010 --> 00:30:05.110
  • DR. BILLHEIMER, DAD BILLHEIMER,
  • 00:30:05.110 --> 00:30:08.100
  • WOULD ZOOM OUT AND INCLUDE
  • 00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:09.200
  • ETERNITY, AND THEN CALL EARTH
  • 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.230
  • "ON-THE-JOB TRAINING FOR
  • 00:30:11.270 --> 00:30:14.270
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:30:14.270 --> 00:30:17.260
  • YOU HAVE A CHAPTER IN
  • 00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:18.130
  • YOUR BOOK "REVEALING THE
  • 00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:19.030
  • WHICH IS OUR GIFT ALL MONTH OF
  • 00:30:22.230 --> 00:30:23.140
  • JULY, TALKING ABOUT "HEAVEN'S
  • 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:24.050
  • OSCARS."
  • 00:30:24.050 --> 00:30:25.240
  • WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
  • 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:26.130
  • - DAVID: WELL, IN THE NEW
  • 00:30:26.130 --> 00:30:28.240
  • TESTAMENT, MATT, THERE ARE FIVE
  • 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.150
  • DIFFERENT CROWNS THAT ARE GONNA
  • 00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:32.210
  • BE HANDED OUT AT THE JUDGMENT
  • 00:30:32.210 --> 00:30:34.290
  • SEAT OF CHRIST.
  • 00:30:34.290 --> 00:30:37.020
  • FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A SOUL
  • 00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:38.110
  • WINNER'S CROWN, THOSE WHO WIN
  • 00:30:38.110 --> 00:30:39.070
  • PEOPLE TO JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:30:39.070 --> 00:30:41.190
  • THEY'RE GONNA GET THIS CROWN.
  • 00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:42.280
  • THERE'S A VICTOR'S CROWN.
  • 00:30:42.280 --> 00:30:44.230
  • THERE'S A CROWN FOR THOSE WHO
  • 00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:46.010
  • LOVE THE LORD'S APPEARING.
  • 00:30:46.010 --> 00:30:48.030
  • THERE'S EVEN A SPECIAL CROWN FOR
  • 00:30:48.030 --> 00:30:49.180
  • PASTORS WHO ARE FAITHFUL, AND
  • 00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:51.090
  • THAT'S ALL EXPLAINED IN THE NEW
  • 00:30:51.090 --> 00:30:53.000
  • TESTAMENT.
  • 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.200
  • NOW, EVERYBODY SAYS, "WELL,
  • 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.100
  • WHAT'RE YOU GONNA DO WITH THOSE
  • 00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:56.280
  • CROWNS?"
  • 00:30:56.280 --> 00:30:57.240
  • THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE GONNA GET
  • 00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.270
  • THEM AND CAST THEM AT THE FEET
  • 00:30:59.270 --> 00:31:00.210
  • OF JESUS.
  • 00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:01.260
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:03.070
  • - DAVID: WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE
  • 00:31:03.070 --> 00:31:03.280
  • THE CROWN, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:31:03.280 --> 00:31:04.200
  • HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF GIVING
  • 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:05.190
  • THEM BACK TO THE LORD AS A GIFT
  • 00:31:05.190 --> 00:31:06.140
  • OF OUR LOVE.
  • 00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.000
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH
  • 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.120
  • THIS BECAUSE THEY SAY, "OH, YOU
  • 00:31:09.120 --> 00:31:11.000
  • SHOULDN'T SERVE JESUS 'CAUSE
  • 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.080
  • YOU'RE GONNA GET A REWARD."
  • 00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:13.160
  • WELL, I HAVE TO TELL YA, THAT'S
  • 00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:15.200
  • WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES, AND
  • 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.190
  • THERE ISN'T ANYTHING WRONG WITH
  • 00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:17.180
  • REWARDS.
  • 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.110
  • IN OUR CULTURE TODAY, WE'VE KIND
  • 00:31:19.110 --> 00:31:20.100
  • OF LOST THAT.
  • 00:31:20.100 --> 00:31:21.130
  • WE GIVE EVERYBODY A REWARD
  • 00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:22.200
  • WHETHER THEY DO ANYTHING FOR IT
  • 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:23.120
  • OR NOT, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:31:23.120 --> 00:31:24.020
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:24.020 --> 00:31:24.210
  • THERE'S A PARTICIPATION TROPHY.
  • 00:31:24.210 --> 00:31:25.280
  • EVERYBODY GETS ONE!
  • 00:31:25.280 --> 00:31:26.290
  • - LAURIE: LOOK WHAT I GOT US!
  • 00:31:26.290 --> 00:31:27.290
  • - DAVID: BUT IN HEAVEN, THERE'S
  • 00:31:27.290 --> 00:31:29.200
  • GONNA BE REWARDS WHO SERVED
  • 00:31:29.230 --> 00:31:32.230
  • FAITHFULLY, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:31:32.230 --> 00:31:34.040
  • - MATT: WOW, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:31:36.170 --> 00:31:37.090
  • SO NOT EVERYONE GETS A REWARD IN
  • 00:31:37.090 --> 00:31:38.020
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:31:38.020 --> 00:31:39.140
  • - DAVID: NO.
  • 00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:40.010
  • - MATT: I MEAN, I GUESS PART OF
  • 00:31:40.010 --> 00:31:41.030
  • THE REWARD IS YOU BASICALLY--
  • 00:31:41.030 --> 00:31:43.100
  • - LAURIE: YOU'RE THERE!
  • 00:31:43.150 --> 00:31:46.150
  • - MATT: -- BY FAITH, BELIEVED
  • 00:31:46.150 --> 00:31:48.000
  • THAT JESUS PAID THE PRICE FOR
  • 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.290
  • YOU AND THAT YOU, WITHOUT ANY
  • 00:31:49.290 --> 00:31:50.200
  • WORKS OF YOUR OWN, ACCEPTED, YOU
  • 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.210
  • KNOW, YOU WERE BOUGHT WITH A
  • 00:31:53.010 --> 00:31:56.010
  • PRICE, AND YOU'RE IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:31:56.010 --> 00:31:57.230
  • BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE
  • 00:31:57.230 --> 00:31:59.200
  • REWARDS, SO IS THAT WHY IT'S
  • 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.240
  • OKAY TO WORK HARD, THINKING
  • 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.000
  • ABOUT THAT REWARD IN HEAVEN?
  • 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:04.170
  • - DAVID: ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE,
  • 00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:06.030
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET SAVED AND
  • 00:32:06.030 --> 00:32:07.240
  • YOU REALIZE THE SACRIFICE THAT
  • 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.280
  • HAS BEEN MADE FOR YOU, AND WHEN
  • 00:32:10.290 --> 00:32:13.290
  • YOU GET A HOLD OF THAT-- LIKE, I
  • 00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:17.130
  • THINK I'VE REALLY HAD THE
  • 00:32:17.130 --> 00:32:19.020
  • GREATEST MOMENT OF THAT WHEN I
  • 00:32:19.020 --> 00:32:19.270
  • WAS WATCHING "THE PASSION OF
  • 00:32:19.270 --> 00:32:20.240
  • THE CHRIST."
  • 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.270
  • NEVER DID RECOVER FROM THAT.
  • 00:32:21.270 --> 00:32:22.290
  • YOU WANNA GIVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE
  • 00:32:22.290 --> 00:32:23.200
  • TO SERVE THE LORD JESUS.
  • 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.240
  • YOU WANNA GIVE EVERYTHING YOU
  • 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.190
  • HAVE.
  • 00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:27.200
  • YOU WANT YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR
  • 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.110
  • LIFE AND YOUR TALENT AND
  • 00:32:28.110 --> 00:32:29.020
  • ABILITIES, WHATEVER IT IS THAT
  • 00:32:29.020 --> 00:32:29.230
  • GOD HAS GIVEN YOU-- I TELL MY
  • 00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:30.140
  • KIDS AT HOME WHEN THEY WERE
  • 00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:31.140
  • GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, "WHATEVER
  • 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.060
  • ABILITY GOD HAS GIVEN YOU,
  • 00:32:32.060 --> 00:32:33.140
  • THAT'S HIS GIFT TO YOU, BUT WHAT
  • 00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:34.210
  • YOU DO WITH IT, THAT'S YOUR GIFT
  • 00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.250
  • TO HIM."
  • 00:32:35.250 --> 00:32:37.260
  • SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE THINGS
  • 00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:38.220
  • THAT GOD HAS GIVEN YOU
  • 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:40.060
  • AND MANIFEST THEM BACK TO THE
  • 00:32:40.060 --> 00:32:42.230
  • LORD, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT
  • 00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.090
  • FAITHFULLY, THE BIBLE SAYS GOD
  • 00:32:45.090 --> 00:32:47.000
  • HAS A REWARD FOR THOSE WHO SERVE
  • 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.170
  • HIM IN SUCH A WAY.
  • 00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:50.000
  • - MATT: ARE YOU TELLING US THAT
  • 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:51.250
  • PARTICIPATION TROPHIES ON EARTH
  • 00:32:51.250 --> 00:32:53.160
  • ARE NOT BIBLICAL?
  • 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.040
  • IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:55.250
  • SAY?
  • 00:32:55.250 --> 00:32:56.110
  • - DAVID: NO, I DON'T KNOW IF
  • 00:32:56.110 --> 00:32:57.070
  • THEY'RE NOT BIBLICAL.
  • 00:32:57.070 --> 00:32:57.250
  • I SURE DON'T LIKE 'EM.
  • 00:32:57.250 --> 00:32:59.240
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.200
  • I THINK THEY DESTROY THE WHOLE
  • 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.110
  • IDEA OF WINNING, AND THE BIBLE
  • 00:33:01.110 --> 00:33:04.110
  • SPEAKS ABOUT WINNING.
  • 00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:07.170
  • PAUL WAS THE GREAT ATHLETE IN
  • 00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:08.240
  • THE BIBLE, AND HE SPOKE ABOUT
  • 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.150
  • RUNNING TO WIN, NOT RUNNING TO
  • 00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:10.290
  • PARTICIPATE.
  • 00:33:10.290 --> 00:33:13.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:13.170 --> 00:33:14.260
  • SO, ANYWAY, BUT HOW DID WE
  • 00:33:14.260 --> 00:33:16.030
  • GET UP ON THAT, MATT?
  • 00:33:16.030 --> 00:33:16.280
  • - MATT: NO, I'M JUST TRYIN' TO
  • 00:33:16.280 --> 00:33:18.140
  • GET YOU TO SAY--
  • 00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:19.060
  • - DAVID: YOU'RE SETTIN' ME UP
  • 00:33:19.060 --> 00:33:19.270
  • IS WHAT YOU'RE DOIN'!
  • 00:33:19.270 --> 00:33:20.140
  • - MATT: A TOTAL SETUP!
  • 00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:21.040
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:22.170
  • I JUST WANTED TO SEE
  • 00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:23.030
  • IF YOU'D SAY SOMETHIN'
  • 00:33:23.030 --> 00:33:23.200
  • CONTROVERSIAL--
  • 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:24.040
  • - DAVID: THERE YOU GO!
  • 00:33:24.040 --> 00:33:25.030
  • - MATT: -- WHICH I LIKE IT WHEN
  • 00:33:25.030 --> 00:33:25.250
  • YOU DO THAT!
  • 00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:26.120
  • - DAVID: THANK YOU!
  • 00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:26.280
  • - MATT: BY THE WAY, WE'RE
  • 00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:27.270
  • AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
  • 00:33:30.260 --> 00:33:32.270
  • I WANNA GO TO ANOTHER CHAPTER IN
  • 00:33:32.270 --> 00:33:33.190
  • THE BOOK AND ASK YOU ABOUT--
  • 00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:35.260
  • CHAPTER SIX IS ENTITLED "THE
  • 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.000
  • HEAVENLY CITY," AND WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.060
  • TALK ABOUT IN THAT CHAPTER OF
  • 00:33:42.060 --> 00:33:43.280
  • YOUR BOOK "REVEALING THE
  • 00:33:43.280 --> 00:33:45.070
  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN"?
  • 00:33:45.070 --> 00:33:47.230
  • - DAVID: WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF
  • 00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:48.180
  • THE THINGS THAT REALLY SURPRISES
  • 00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:50.040
  • PEOPLE IS THAT, WHEN YOU GET
  • 00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:51.050
  • INTO HEAVEN, THE FINAL HEAVEN,
  • 00:33:51.050 --> 00:33:53.160
  • THE BIBLE SAYS THE CITY OF
  • 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.250
  • HEAVEN IS GONNA COME DOWN TO
  • 00:33:54.250 --> 00:33:56.130
  • THIS EARTH, AND THAT CITY IS
  • 00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:58.090
  • DESCRIBED IN THE BOOK OF
  • 00:33:58.090 --> 00:34:00.140
  • REVELATION IN A WAY THAT YOU
  • 00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:02.070
  • CANNOT COMPREHEND.
  • 00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:04.150
  • YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO SOME
  • 00:34:04.150 --> 00:34:05.160
  • BEAUTIFUL PLACES, BUT I CAN'T
  • 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.100
  • EVEN THINK OF ANYTHING THAT EVEN
  • 00:34:07.100 --> 00:34:09.000
  • COMES CLOSE TO THE DESCRIPTION
  • 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.220
  • OF HEAVEN.
  • 00:34:10.220 --> 00:34:12.010
  • PEOPLE SAY, "OH, THERE'S NOT
  • 00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:13.050
  • GONNA REALLY BE STREETS OF
  • 00:34:13.050 --> 00:34:13.270
  • GOLD."
  • 00:34:13.270 --> 00:34:14.160
  • OH, YES, THERE ARE, AND
  • 00:34:14.160 --> 00:34:16.130
  • IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST GOLD.
  • 00:34:16.130 --> 00:34:17.100
  • IT'S GONNA BE TRANSLUCENT GOLD
  • 00:34:17.100 --> 00:34:18.280
  • THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, AND
  • 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.100
  • THE GATES OF THE CITY ARE MADE
  • 00:34:20.100 --> 00:34:22.100
  • OUT OF PEARL.
  • 00:34:22.100 --> 00:34:24.230
  • I MEAN, I KEEP THINKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:34:24.230 --> 00:34:26.250
  • HOW BIG AN OYSTER IT'S GONNA
  • 00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:28.190
  • TAKE TO DO THIS, BUT EVERY GATE
  • 00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:29.110
  • IS A PEARL CREATED BY GOD.
  • 00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:31.250
  • AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE
  • 00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:35.240
  • CITY IS BUILT WITH PRECIOUS
  • 00:34:35.240 --> 00:34:37.030
  • STONES, THAT EACH ONE OF THEM IS
  • 00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:39.060
  • DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND, YOU
  • 00:34:39.060 --> 00:34:40.150
  • KNOW, IF WE KNEW MORE ABOUT
  • 00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:44.020
  • HEAVEN THAN WE DO, WE'D BE SO
  • 00:34:44.020 --> 00:34:45.100
  • HEAVENLY MINDED, WE WOULDN'T BE
  • 00:34:45.100 --> 00:34:46.020
  • ANY EARTHLY GOOD.
  • 00:34:46.020 --> 00:34:48.050
  • BUT HEAVEN IS AN INCREDIBLE
  • 00:34:48.050 --> 00:34:49.190
  • PLACE, AND WHEN YOU TAKE TIME TO
  • 00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:52.020
  • STUDY IT, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST
  • 00:34:52.020 --> 00:34:52.270
  • COUPLE CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF
  • 00:34:52.270 --> 00:34:54.140
  • REVELATION, IF YOU REALLY ASK
  • 00:34:54.140 --> 00:34:56.180
  • GOD TO REVEAL THE BEAUTY OF
  • 00:34:56.180 --> 00:34:57.270
  • HEAVEN TO YOU, YOU'LL NEVER
  • 00:34:57.270 --> 00:34:58.290
  • RECOVER FROM IT.
  • 00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:02.250
  • - MATT: WE'RE-- OH, GO AHEAD,
  • 00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:03.160
  • BABE.
  • 00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:03.250
  • - LAURIE: SORRY.
  • 00:35:03.250 --> 00:35:04.100
  • WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY, THERE'S
  • 00:35:04.100 --> 00:35:05.010
  • THREE DIFFERENT HEAVENS,
  • 00:35:05.010 --> 00:35:05.190
  • CORRECT?
  • 00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:07.250
  • CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT FOR
  • 00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:08.160
  • EVERYBODY?
  • 00:35:08.160 --> 00:35:09.100
  • - DAVID: WELL, THERE'S THE
  • 00:35:09.100 --> 00:35:10.130
  • HEAVEN WE SEE AROUND US, AND
  • 00:35:10.130 --> 00:35:12.160
  • THEN THERE'S THE STRATOSPHERE,
  • 00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:13.190
  • AND THEN THERE'S WHAT THEY CALL
  • 00:35:13.190 --> 00:35:14.180
  • AND THE THIRD HEAVEN IS WHERE
  • 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.190
  • GOD LIVES.
  • 00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:18.200
  • HE LIVES IN THE THIRD HEAVEN.
  • 00:35:18.200 --> 00:35:19.210
  • BY THE WAY, HEAVEN IS UP.
  • 00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:23.080
  • WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE
  • 00:35:23.080 --> 00:35:25.040
  • SCRIPTURE TEACHES THAT, AND SO
  • 00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:26.100
  • THAT'S--
  • 00:35:26.100 --> 00:35:28.060
  • - LAURIE: NORTH.
  • 00:35:28.060 --> 00:35:29.160
  • - DAVID: YES, RIGHT, RIGHT.
  • 00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:31.100
  • SO THE HEAVEN THE BIBLE TALKS
  • 00:35:31.100 --> 00:35:33.120
  • ABOUT IS THE THIRD HEAVEN, NOT
  • 00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:34.170
  • THE ATMOSPHERE OR THE
  • 00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:37.010
  • STRATOSPHERE, BUT THE THIRD
  • 00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:38.030
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:35:38.030 --> 00:35:39.250
  • THAT'S WHERE GOD IS.
  • 00:35:39.250 --> 00:35:41.050
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:41.190
  • - LAURIE: HE'S CLEARING THAT
  • 00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:42.160
  • UP.
  • 00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:43.240
  • - MATT: YEAH, AND TECHNICALLY,
  • 00:35:43.240 --> 00:35:44.190
  • "NORTH" IS NOT UP.
  • 00:35:44.190 --> 00:35:46.200
  • - LAURIE: NO.
  • 00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:47.180
  • - MATT: YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS IF
  • 00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:48.100
  • YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT BEING ON
  • 00:35:48.100 --> 00:35:49.010
  • THE PLANET.
  • 00:35:49.010 --> 00:35:50.160
  • - LAURIE: NO.
  • 00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:51.120
  • - DAVID: WHY DON'T YOU GUYS
  • 00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:52.020
  • FIGURE THAT OUT AND GIVE US THE
  • 00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:53.010
  • REPORT, YEAH!
  • 00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:53.160
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:54.150
  • - MATT: SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT
  • 00:35:54.150 --> 00:35:55.080
  • THAT LATER!
  • 00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:55.220
  • - LAURIE: NO!
  • 00:35:55.220 --> 00:35:56.100
  • - DAVID: NEXT TIME, YOU CAN
  • 00:35:56.100 --> 00:35:57.100
  • TELL ME WHAT YOU FOUND OUT,
  • 00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:58.070
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:35:58.070 --> 00:35:58.290
  • - MATT: SO NORTH...
  • 00:35:58.290 --> 00:36:00.200
  • - LAURIE: THERE IS A SPOT IN
  • 00:36:00.200 --> 00:36:02.050
  • THE NORTH, AM I CORRECT?
  • 00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:02.250
  • - DAVID: THAT'S CORRECT.
  • 00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:03.190
  • - MATT: YEAH, BUT THEN YOU CAN
  • 00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:04.120
  • GO UP FROM THERE.
  • 00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:05.190
  • - LAURIE: I KNOW.
  • 00:36:05.190 --> 00:36:06.050
  • - MATT: OKAY, WELL--
  • 00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:07.100
  • - LAURIE: BUT THERE'S A SPOT IN
  • 00:36:07.100 --> 00:36:08.020
  • THE NORTH THAT IS...
  • 00:36:08.020 --> 00:36:10.290
  • - MATT: WHAT?
  • 00:36:10.290 --> 00:36:11.170
  • THAT'S WHAT?
  • 00:36:11.170 --> 00:36:12.070
  • - DAVID: IT'S AN EMPTY SPOT.
  • 00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:12.280
  • NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT IS
  • 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.190
  • THERE, AND IT'S THE UNEXPLORED
  • 00:36:13.190 --> 00:36:14.170
  • THIRD HEAVEN.
  • 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.000
  • SEE, SHE'S DOIN' HER HOMEWORK
  • 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.140
  • RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:36:19.140 --> 00:36:20.030
  • - MATT: ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:20.240
  • - LAURIE: OKAY, NOW YOU ALL GO
  • 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:21.160
  • STUDY THAT!
  • 00:36:21.160 --> 00:36:22.010
  • - MATT: YEAH, OKAY.
  • 00:36:22.010 --> 00:36:22.170
  • - LAURIE: WRITE ME!
  • 00:36:22.170 --> 00:36:24.190
  • - MATT: IT'S IN THE BOOK, OKAY.
  • 00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:25.110
  • LET ME RESET FOR JUST ONE
  • 00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:28.160
  • SECOND, AND, FIRST OF ALL, JUST,
  • 00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:31.140
  • KIND OF, RE-WELCOME-- AUDIENCE,
  • 00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:32.210
  • JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE WAVE AND--
  • 00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:34.040
  • - LAURIE: WHAT A BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:36:34.040 --> 00:36:34.240
  • AUDIENCE!
  • 00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:35.160
  • - MATT: -- WAVE TO YOUR AUNTIES
  • 00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:36.240
  • AND YOUR UNCLES AND YOUR FRIENDS
  • 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:37.200
  • AND FAMILY, AND SMILE WHETHER
  • 00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:39.290
  • YOU HAVE TEETH OR NOT!
  • 00:36:39.290 --> 00:36:41.000
  • BIG SMILE THERE!
  • 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.260
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:45.020
  • AND WE ENJOY DOING THESE
  • 00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:45.200
  • BROADCASTS LIKE THIS.
  • 00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.230
  • THANK YOU, AUDIENCE, FOR BEING
  • 00:36:47.230 --> 00:36:48.140
  • HERE.
  • 00:36:48.140 --> 00:36:49.000
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEAVEN.
  • 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.290
  • OUR JULY GIFT THIS MONTH IS THE
  • 00:36:55.090 --> 00:36:56.010
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:36:56.010 --> 00:36:57.010
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:36:57.200 --> 00:37:00.220
  • OKAY, LET'S KIND OF RESET A
  • 00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:04.250
  • LITTLE BIT, AND SOMEBODY
  • 00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:06.040
  • JUST TUNED IN.
  • 00:37:06.040 --> 00:37:07.180
  • THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
  • 00:37:08.210 --> 00:37:11.210
  • ANYTHING.
  • 00:37:11.210 --> 00:37:12.120
  • WHAT IS HEAVEN?
  • 00:37:12.120 --> 00:37:13.150
  • WHAT IS HELL?
  • 00:37:13.150 --> 00:37:14.080
  • WHAT'S THE POINT?
  • 00:37:14.080 --> 00:37:15.230
  • WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS
  • 00:37:15.230 --> 00:37:16.190
  • PLACE?
  • 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.100
  • - LAURIE: AND WHY IS IT...
  • 00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:18.020
  • - MATT: AND WHY IS IT
  • 00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:18.270
  • IMPORTANT?
  • 00:37:18.270 --> 00:37:19.110
  • - LAURIE: WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
  • 00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:20.200
  • - DAVID: WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT
  • 00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:22.120
  • BECAUSE HEAVEN IS GOING TO BE
  • 00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:25.140
  • THE HOME OF SOME PEOPLE FOREVER.
  • 00:37:25.140 --> 00:37:27.010
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:37:27.010 --> 00:37:28.200
  • - DAVID: THE ALTERNATIVE ISN'T
  • 00:37:28.200 --> 00:37:29.120
  • VERY GOOD.
  • 00:37:29.120 --> 00:37:29.250
  • AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEND
  • 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.000
  • ETERNITY IN HEAVEN, THERE IS A
  • 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.030
  • PLAN, THERE'S A WAY, AND GOD
  • 00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:36.150
  • ISN'T BASHFUL ABOUT SAYING WHAT
  • 00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:38.090
  • IT IS.
  • 00:37:38.090 --> 00:37:40.110
  • HE TELLS US THAT HEAVEN IS GOD'S
  • 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.080
  • GIFT TO US.
  • 00:37:42.080 --> 00:37:43.250
  • THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE
  • 00:37:43.250 --> 00:37:44.270
  • THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:37:44.270 --> 00:37:45.250
  • - MATT: TO ANY AND EVERY HUMAN
  • 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.140
  • BEING ON EARTH?
  • 00:37:47.140 --> 00:37:47.290
  • - DAVID: TO ANY SINGLE PERSON
  • 00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:49.100
  • WHO WILL COME TO RECEIVE THE
  • 00:37:49.100 --> 00:37:50.120
  • GIFT.
  • 00:37:50.120 --> 00:37:50.270
  • - MATT: GOT IT.
  • 00:37:50.270 --> 00:37:51.120
  • - LAURIE: THERE'S NO ONE TOO
  • 00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:52.030
  • BAD?
  • 00:37:52.030 --> 00:37:53.020
  • - DAVID: THERE'S NO ONE TOO
  • 00:37:53.020 --> 00:37:54.190
  • BAD.
  • 00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:55.220
  • YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ THROUGH
  • 00:37:55.220 --> 00:37:56.170
  • YOU'LL FIND INSTANCES WHERE
  • 00:38:00.020 --> 00:38:00.220
  • PEOPLE FOUND FAITH IN CHRIST-- I
  • 00:38:00.220 --> 00:38:01.140
  • HE WASN'T JUST A BAD PERSON.
  • 00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:06.100
  • HE WAS KILLING CHRISTIANS.
  • 00:38:06.100 --> 00:38:08.140
  • HE WAS A TERRORIST, AND THEN GOD
  • 00:38:08.140 --> 00:38:09.260
  • FOUND HIM AND BROUGHT HIM TO
  • 00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:12.130
  • SO THERE'S NOT ANYTHING YOU CAN
  • 00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:17.080
  • DO TO OUT-SIN GOD'S GRACE.
  • 00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.080
  • THERE'S NOT ANYTHING YOU CAN DO
  • 00:38:19.080 --> 00:38:21.250
  • TO GET OUT OF THE REACH OF HIS
  • 00:38:21.250 --> 00:38:22.200
  • LOVING ARMS.
  • 00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:25.120
  • AND IF YOU TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:26.120
  • TO FORGIVE YOUR SIN-- AND
  • 00:38:26.120 --> 00:38:28.140
  • SOMEBODY SAID, "WELL, HOW DO I
  • 00:38:28.140 --> 00:38:29.120
  • DO THAT?"
  • 00:38:29.120 --> 00:38:30.080
  • YOU DECIDE TO DO IT.
  • 00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:31.060
  • THAT'S ONE THING THAT KIND OF
  • 00:38:31.060 --> 00:38:32.130
  • GETS LOST SOMETIMES IN THE
  • 00:38:32.130 --> 00:38:33.050
  • GOSPEL PRESENTATION.
  • 00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:34.220
  • TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN IS A
  • 00:38:34.220 --> 00:38:36.090
  • DECISION WE MAKE.
  • 00:38:36.090 --> 00:38:39.010
  • I HAVE DECIDED TO PUT MY TRUST
  • 00:38:39.010 --> 00:38:40.290
  • IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR
  • 00:38:40.290 --> 00:38:42.120
  • ETERNAL LIFE, AND WHEN YOU DO
  • 00:38:42.120 --> 00:38:44.070
  • THAT, JESUS CHRIST COMES TO TAKE
  • 00:38:44.070 --> 00:38:46.150
  • UP HIS RESIDENCE IN YOUR HEART.
  • 00:38:46.150 --> 00:38:49.020
  • YOU BECOME A CHRISTIAN, AND YOU
  • 00:38:49.020 --> 00:38:50.240
  • MAKE YOUR RESERVATION FOR
  • 00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:53.040
  • HEAVEN.
  • 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:54.220
  • - MATT: HAVE YOU EVER, ANY TIME
  • 00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:57.230
  • AT AN AIRPORT OR A HOTEL LOBBY
  • 00:38:57.230 --> 00:38:59.260
  • OR ANYWHERE, CONFRONTED
  • 00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.020
  • SOMEBODY, OR YOU FELT, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:39:02.020 --> 00:39:04.190
  • LED TO HAVE A PERSONAL TALK WITH
  • 00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:06.160
  • SOMEBODY, AND THEY JUST GO,
  • 00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:08.150
  • "YEP, NOPE, DON'T BUY THIS AT
  • 00:39:08.150 --> 00:39:10.040
  • ALL"?
  • 00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:11.020
  • - DAVID: SURE.
  • 00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:12.080
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:14.150
  • - DAVID: YOU CAN'T BE IN THE
  • 00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:15.060
  • MAINSTREAM WITHOUT THAT
  • 00:39:15.060 --> 00:39:15.240
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:16.220
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:39:16.220 --> 00:39:17.130
  • SAY IF SOMEBODY'S VIEWING RIGHT
  • 00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:18.050
  • NOW AND JUST SAID, "OKAY, THE
  • 00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:19.200
  • GUY OVER THERE, HE DOES HAVE
  • 00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:21.030
  • NICE HAIR, BUT I THINK HE'S A
  • 00:39:21.030 --> 00:39:23.010
  • NUT, AND I THINK THE PEOPLE
  • 00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:25.050
  • INTERVIEWING HIM ARE NUTS TOO"--
  • 00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:28.090
  • - LAURIE: ARE REALLY NUTS!
  • 00:39:28.090 --> 00:39:30.180
  • - MATT: -- WHICH IS US, "AND
  • 00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:31.090
  • THAT, IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT
  • 00:39:31.090 --> 00:39:33.290
  • THERE'S A PLACE THAT WE'RE ALL
  • 00:39:33.290 --> 00:39:34.240
  • GONNA FLY TO ONE DAY..."
  • 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:35.210
  • WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE TOTAL
  • 00:39:35.210 --> 00:39:36.110
  • PERSON THAT JUST DOESN'T
  • 00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:38.010
  • BUY A WORD OF IT?
  • 00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.040
  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS
  • 00:39:40.040 --> 00:39:41.000
  • DID WHEN PEOPLE ASKED HIM
  • 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:41.260
  • QUESTIONS LIKE THAT?
  • 00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:42.130
  • HE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS BACK.
  • 00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:44.200
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:39:44.200 --> 00:39:45.060
  • - DAVID: AND HERE'S WHAT JESUS,
  • 00:39:45.060 --> 00:39:46.120
  • I THINK, MIGHT SAY.
  • 00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:48.280
  • I THINK JESUS MIGHT SAY, "OKAY,
  • 00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:49.250
  • WHEN YOU STAND BEFORE THE DOOR
  • 00:39:49.250 --> 00:39:52.140
  • OF HEAVEN AND YOU'RE ASKED, 'WHY
  • 00:39:52.140 --> 00:39:53.230
  • SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY
  • 00:39:53.230 --> 00:39:56.050
  • HEAVEN?'
  • 00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:57.280
  • WHAT'RE YOU GONNA SAY?"
  • 00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.280
  • THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE QUESTION.
  • 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.190
  • "IF SOMEDAY YOU STAND BEFORE
  • 00:40:00.190 --> 00:40:02.190
  • GOD'S HEAVEN AND HE ASKS YOU,
  • 00:40:03.020 --> 00:40:06.020
  • 'WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY
  • 00:40:06.020 --> 00:40:07.000
  • HEAVEN?'
  • 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:07.170
  • WHAT'RE YOU GONNA SAY?"
  • 00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:08.050
  • I'VE PERSONALLY ASKED THAT
  • 00:40:08.050 --> 00:40:09.140
  • QUESTION TO HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:40:09.140 --> 00:40:11.140
  • AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY SAY,
  • 00:40:11.140 --> 00:40:13.020
  • "WELL, I'VE BEEN A GOOD PERSON,"
  • 00:40:13.020 --> 00:40:14.200
  • AND THEN I REMIND THEM THAT GOD
  • 00:40:14.200 --> 00:40:16.020
  • DOESN'T GRADE ON THE CURVE.
  • 00:40:16.020 --> 00:40:17.210
  • HE GRADES ON 100%.
  • 00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:20.100
  • AND LITTLE BY LITTLE, THEY CYCLE
  • 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:21.250
  • THROUGH THEIR ANSWERS, AND THEN
  • 00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:23.150
  • I'M ABLE TO SAY TO THEM, "LISTEN
  • 00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:24.070
  • TO ME.
  • 00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:24.290
  • THE BIBLE TELLS YOU THE RIGHT
  • 00:40:24.290 --> 00:40:26.120
  • ANSWER.
  • 00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:27.010
  • THE RIGHT ANSWER WHEN GOD ASKS
  • 00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:28.160
  • YOU, 'WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO
  • 00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:29.080
  • MY HEAVEN?'
  • 00:40:29.080 --> 00:40:30.040
  • IS BECAUSE 'I HAVE PUT MY TRUST
  • 00:40:30.040 --> 00:40:31.200
  • IN YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:33.010
  • ALONE, FOR ETERNAL LIFE.' THAT'S
  • 00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:34.170
  • THE ONLY ANSWER."
  • 00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:35.150
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:37.010 --> 00:40:40.010
  • - MATT: OKAY, AND IS THERE
  • 00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:42.020
  • ANYTHING TO SAY-- I MEAN, I'VE
  • 00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:45.260
  • HEARD THE ADAGE, "NOBODY EVER
  • 00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:47.110
  • BECAME A BELIEVER BECAUSE THEY
  • 00:40:47.110 --> 00:40:48.190
  • LOST THE ARGUMENT," AND ISN'T IT
  • 00:40:48.190 --> 00:40:50.100
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT'S JOB TO DRAW--
  • 00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:53.070
  • YOU KNOW, AND SO, AT SOME POINT,
  • 00:40:53.070 --> 00:40:55.140
  • ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK THEM?
  • 00:40:56.220 --> 00:40:59.220
  • WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT
  • 00:40:59.220 --> 00:41:01.010
  • IT?
  • 00:41:01.010 --> 00:41:02.050
  • - DAVID: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT,
  • 00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:03.130
  • MATT?
  • 00:41:03.130 --> 00:41:04.010
  • YOU DO MORE THAN ASK.
  • 00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:04.230
  • YOU HAVE A SEARCH LIGHT THAT'S,
  • 00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:06.140
  • JUST, GOING ALL ACROSS THE
  • 00:41:06.140 --> 00:41:09.100
  • WORLD, EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY,
  • 00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:11.200
  • ASKING, SHARING THE GOSPEL,
  • 00:41:11.230 --> 00:41:14.230
  • MAKING THE MESSAGE KNOWN TO SO
  • 00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:16.220
  • MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD NEVER,
  • 00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:17.140
  • EVER HEAR.
  • 00:41:17.140 --> 00:41:18.230
  • I'VE MET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE IN
  • 00:41:18.230 --> 00:41:20.000
  • SOUTH AFRICA AND IN JERUSALEM,
  • 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.150
  • AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE
  • 00:41:22.150 --> 00:41:23.130
  • WORLD.
  • 00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:24.030
  • YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE MESSAGE TO
  • 00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:25.260
  • THE PEOPLE.
  • 00:41:25.260 --> 00:41:27.050
  • THAT'S OUR CALLING.
  • 00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:29.030
  • THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE TO GO INTO
  • 00:41:29.030 --> 00:41:30.190
  • ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE
  • 00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:31.090
  • GOSPEL.
  • 00:41:31.090 --> 00:41:32.080
  • WE CAN'T EFFECT THAT.
  • 00:41:32.080 --> 00:41:33.260
  • WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK, BUT WE
  • 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:34.220
  • HAVE TO GO, AND YOUR DAD AND MOM
  • 00:41:34.220 --> 00:41:36.000
  • UNDERSTOOD THAT.
  • 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:36.270
  • YOUR DAD ESPECIALLY TOLD ME MANY
  • 00:41:36.270 --> 00:41:38.110
  • TIMES THAT HE WANTED TO REACH
  • 00:41:38.110 --> 00:41:40.110
  • THE WHOLE WORLD BEFORE HE DIED.
  • 00:41:45.050 --> 00:41:48.050
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:48.220
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE A
  • 00:41:48.220 --> 00:41:49.140
  • SIGNAL PLACED EVERYWHERE IN THE
  • 00:41:49.140 --> 00:41:50.090
  • WORLD, BUT UNTIL THERE IS A
  • 00:41:50.090 --> 00:41:52.000
  • DR. JEREMIAH WILLING TO EXPLAIN
  • 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.230
  • THE VERY SIMPLE TRUTH OF HEAVEN
  • 00:41:53.230 --> 00:41:55.110
  • AND HELL AND WRITE A BOOK LIKE
  • 00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:57.220
  • YOU CAN HAVE THE BIGGEST
  • 00:42:00.040 --> 00:42:01.240
  • DISTRIBUTION PLATFORM IN THE
  • 00:42:01.240 --> 00:42:02.150
  • WORLD, BUT IF NOBODY IS EVER
  • 00:42:02.150 --> 00:42:04.260
  • BEING CONFRONTED WITH THE ISSUE
  • 00:42:04.260 --> 00:42:06.020
  • OF ETERNITY ON IT, WE'RE NOT
  • 00:42:06.020 --> 00:42:08.190
  • DOIN' ANY GOOD.
  • 00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:09.210
  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT
  • 00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:10.260
  • HERE ON THIS BROADCAST.
  • 00:42:10.260 --> 00:42:12.020
  • - DAVID: AND THAT'S WHY I WANNA
  • 00:42:12.020 --> 00:42:13.120
  • THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS
  • 00:42:13.120 --> 00:42:14.150
  • OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:42:14.150 --> 00:42:15.120
  • I JUST AM SO OVERWHELMED TO MEET
  • 00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:18.010
  • PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD
  • 00:42:18.010 --> 00:42:20.150
  • WHO WATCH "TURNING POINT" ON TBN
  • 00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:22.150
  • AND TELL ME HOW GOD HAS USED IT.
  • 00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:25.100
  • I WAS IN A LITTLE JEWELRY STORE.
  • 00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:28.250
  • I'M SORRY TO SAY MY WIFE LOVES
  • 00:42:28.250 --> 00:42:30.180
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.100
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S OKAY!
  • 00:42:33.100 --> 00:42:33.280
  • - DAVID: AND WE WERE IN THIS
  • 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:34.190
  • LITTLE JEWELRY STORE IN AN
  • 00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:35.230
  • ISLAND, AND A VERY ISOLATED
  • 00:42:35.230 --> 00:42:36.270
  • - LAURIE: HIGHWAY ROBBERY.
  • 00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:40.260
  • - DAVID: YES, AND THE ONLY
  • 00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:41.230
  • THING ON THAT ISLAND WERE
  • 00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:42.200
  • JEWELRY STORES.
  • 00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:43.270
  • I MEAN, I'M NOT KIDDIN' YA.
  • 00:42:43.270 --> 00:42:45.240
  • WE WERE IN THAT STORE, AND I
  • 00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:46.180
  • WALKED IN.
  • 00:42:46.180 --> 00:42:48.070
  • IT WAS TOTALLY WAY OUT, AWAY
  • 00:42:48.070 --> 00:42:50.050
  • FROM EVERYTHING, AND THE GUY
  • 00:42:50.050 --> 00:42:51.190
  • LOOKED AT ME, AND HE SAID, "ARE
  • 00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:52.210
  • YOU DAVID JEREMIAH?"
  • 00:42:52.210 --> 00:42:54.050
  • - LAURIE: OH, MY GOODNESS!
  • 00:42:54.050 --> 00:42:54.250
  • - DAVID: AND I SAID, "YES."
  • 00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:55.160
  • HE SAID,
  • 00:42:55.160 --> 00:42:57.060
  • "WE HAVE A SATELLITE DISH
  • 00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:58.090
  • ON TOP OF OUR HOUSE, AND WE
  • 00:42:58.090 --> 00:42:59.100
  • WATCH YOU EVERY SUNDAY."
  • 00:42:59.100 --> 00:43:00.290
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:43:00.290 --> 00:43:01.160
  • - DAVID: I WAS IN SOUTH AFRICA
  • 00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.150
  • WE WENT TO A PLACE TO HELP PLANT
  • 00:43:10.040 --> 00:43:10.260
  • GARDENS, TOOK SOME PEOPLE FROM
  • 00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:11.240
  • OUR CHURCH, AND I'LL NEVER
  • 00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:14.220
  • FORGET THIS: THEY DON'T READ OR
  • 00:43:14.220 --> 00:43:15.160
  • WRITE.
  • 00:43:15.160 --> 00:43:17.150
  • THEY'RE VERY POOR.
  • 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:18.010
  • THE PASTORS ASKED ME TO COME AND
  • 00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:20.180
  • TALK TO THEM, AND SO I DID.
  • 00:43:20.290 --> 00:43:23.290
  • I SAID, "WELL, HOW DO YOU PREACH
  • 00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:24.210
  • IF YOU DON'T READ, YOU DON'T
  • 00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:25.160
  • WRITE?"
  • 00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:26.180
  • AND THEY SAID TO ME,
  • 00:43:26.180 --> 00:43:28.150
  • "DR. JEREMIAH, WE WATCH YOU ON
  • 00:43:28.150 --> 00:43:30.000
  • TBN EVERY SUNDAY,
  • 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.170
  • AND THEN WE TRY TO GO TELL OUR
  • 00:43:31.170 --> 00:43:32.280
  • PEOPLE WHAT YOU SAID.
  • 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.100
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:34.290
  • - DAVID: I WAS BROKEN.
  • 00:43:34.290 --> 00:43:36.110
  • I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE
  • 00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:39.210
  • GOSPEL GETS TO PEOPLE ONE WAY OR
  • 00:43:39.210 --> 00:43:41.040
  • THE OTHER.
  • 00:43:41.040 --> 00:43:42.080
  • THERE HAS TO BE PREACHER, BUT
  • 00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:44.260
  • THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO CONVEY
  • 00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:45.180
  • THE MESSAGE, AND THAT'S WHY
  • 00:43:45.180 --> 00:43:46.290
  • WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP.
  • 00:43:46.290 --> 00:43:47.290
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:43:47.290 --> 00:43:48.140
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, THE OTHER DAY,
  • 00:43:48.140 --> 00:43:50.200
  • WE WERE IN FIJI, AND WE'RE DOING
  • 00:43:50.200 --> 00:43:53.070
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION NOW THERE
  • 00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:54.150
  • IN FIJI, AND THEY SAID, "THAT'S
  • 00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:57.030
  • THE WAY WE LEARNED HOW TO PREACH
  • 00:43:57.030 --> 00:43:59.120
  • IS BY WATCHING YOUR PASTORS ON
  • 00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:00.210
  • TV.
  • 00:44:00.210 --> 00:44:02.260
  • THAT'S HOW WE LEARNED HOW TO DO
  • 00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:04.070
  • IT."
  • 00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:06.080
  • - MATT: WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD
  • 00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:07.150
  • THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:08.140
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:44:08.140 --> 00:44:09.230
  • - MATT: AFTER 45 YEARS OF DOING
  • 00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:12.120
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:15.150
  • WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, LAURIE
  • 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.100
  • AND I, WHO KNOWS, BEEN IN 70 OR
  • 00:44:17.100 --> 00:44:19.040
  • 100 COUNTRIES, AND WE HAVE ASKED
  • 00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:20.100
  • MANY TIMES TO PLACES LIKE AFRICA
  • 00:44:23.140 --> 00:44:26.140
  • OR IN, YOU KNOW, EASTERN EUROPE,
  • 00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:29.150
  • "DO YOU WANT PROGRAMS FROM THE
  • 00:44:30.060 --> 00:44:33.060
  • WEST, OR WOULD YOU RATHER US PUT
  • 00:44:33.060 --> 00:44:35.260
  • JUST LOCAL AFRICAN MINISTERS?"
  • 00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:41.200
  • AND, "NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,
  • 00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:42.110
  • NO, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T DO THAT
  • 00:44:42.110 --> 00:44:43.150
  • BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT AMERICA
  • 00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:46.100
  • WAS RAISED UP, AND THERE ARE THE
  • 00:44:46.100 --> 00:44:48.090
  • MINISTERS OF AMERICA THAT WE
  • 00:44:49.010 --> 00:44:52.010
  • WANT TO SEE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
  • 00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:55.040
  • THAT THE BEST BIBLE TEACHING AND
  • 00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:56.230
  • THE BEST PREACHING COMES, YOU
  • 00:44:56.230 --> 00:44:57.210
  • KNOW, FROM AMERICA.
  • 00:44:57.210 --> 00:45:00.040
  • YOU WERE RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.080
  • NATION."
  • 00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:01.250
  • THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE FREEDOM
  • 00:45:01.250 --> 00:45:04.110
  • HERE AND THAT OUR PASTORS AREN'T
  • 00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:05.280
  • TRYING TO KEEP FROM BEING
  • 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.020
  • ARRESTED, OUR PASTORS ARE
  • 00:45:08.020 --> 00:45:09.130
  • GETTING TO STUDY THE WORD,
  • 00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:10.110
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:12.010
  • AND, YOU KNOW, SOME MINISTRIES
  • 00:45:12.010 --> 00:45:14.080
  • IN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE
  • 00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:15.290
  • WORLD, THEY WOULD NEVER WANT US
  • 00:45:15.290 --> 00:45:17.130
  • TO TAKE DR. JEREMIAH AND T.D.
  • 00:45:17.130 --> 00:45:19.030
  • JAKES AND JOYCE MEYER AND SOME
  • 00:45:19.030 --> 00:45:20.210
  • OF THESE BROADCASTS OFF THE AIR
  • 00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.270
  • AND JUST REPLACE IT WITH LOCAL
  • 00:45:22.270 --> 00:45:24.290
  • CONTENT.
  • 00:45:24.290 --> 00:45:26.170
  • AND SO WE'VE KNOWN FOR MANY,
  • 00:45:26.170 --> 00:45:29.060
  • MANY YEARS THAT THE MINISTRIES
  • 00:45:29.070 --> 00:45:32.070
  • OF TBN AND THE MINISTERS THAT
  • 00:45:32.100 --> 00:45:35.100
  • ARE ON TBN AND ESPECIALLY-- LET
  • 00:45:35.100 --> 00:45:37.150
  • ME JUST BRAG ON YOU FOR A
  • 00:45:37.150 --> 00:45:38.100
  • SECOND.
  • 00:45:38.100 --> 00:45:39.060
  • YOU HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST
  • 00:45:39.070 --> 00:45:42.070
  • RATINGS ON TRINITY BROADCASTING
  • 00:45:42.070 --> 00:45:44.250
  • THAT THERE ARE.
  • 00:45:44.250 --> 00:45:46.090
  • YOUR BROADCAST IS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:49.130
  • 99% OF THE TIME IN THE TOP FIVE
  • 00:45:49.130 --> 00:45:51.030
  • OF MINISTERS, AND SO YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:55.040
  • GETTIN' OLDER EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:45:55.040 --> 00:45:56.220
  • GETTIN' BETTER, OKAY?
  • 00:45:56.220 --> 00:45:58.080
  • AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
  • 00:45:58.080 --> 00:46:00.170
  • THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING
  • 00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:01.290
  • YOU ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND
  • 00:46:01.290 --> 00:46:03.170
  • YOU'RE SUCH AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO
  • 00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:04.240
  • MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE
  • 00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:05.160
  • WORLD.
  • 00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:07.030
  • - LAURIE: WHY SHOULDN'T-- YOU
  • 00:46:07.030 --> 00:46:08.140
  • ONE OF THE GUYS THAT WAS ON ONE
  • 00:46:11.120 --> 00:46:12.040
  • OF THOSE THINGS WE WERE JUST
  • 00:46:12.040 --> 00:46:12.240
  • WATCHIN', SAID "OH, I BELIEVE IN
  • 00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:14.030
  • HEAVEN, BUT MAYBE THAT'S IN THE
  • 00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:15.190
  • FUTURE," AND PEOPLE PUTTING OFF
  • 00:46:15.190 --> 00:46:18.000
  • THEIR DECISION TO KNOW THE LORD
  • 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:19.280
  • BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY HAVE
  • 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:20.210
  • TIME.
  • 00:46:20.210 --> 00:46:22.230
  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW, I DISCOVERED
  • 00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:26.010
  • SOMETHING, LAURIE, ABOUT 2 YEARS
  • 00:46:26.010 --> 00:46:26.270
  • AGO, AND I PROBABLY SAID IT MORE
  • 00:46:26.270 --> 00:46:28.020
  • TIMES THAN MY CHURCH WOULD LIKE
  • 00:46:28.020 --> 00:46:29.150
  • ME TO SAY IT, AND HERE'S WHAT IT
  • 00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:30.070
  • IS: THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN GOD
  • 00:46:30.120 --> 00:46:33.120
  • TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING AND
  • 00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:34.030
  • WHEN YOU DO IT, DOES NOT BELONG
  • 00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:35.070
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:46:35.070 --> 00:46:36.180
  • IT BELONGS TO THE DEVIL.
  • 00:46:36.180 --> 00:46:39.030
  • WHEN GOD TELLS YOU TO-- WHEN YOU
  • 00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:40.020
  • GET A MESSAGE IN YOUR HEART THAT
  • 00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:42.080
  • GOD IS CALLING YOU AND THAT YOU
  • 00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:43.250
  • NEED TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN, WHEN
  • 00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:44.200
  • YOU POSTPONE THAT, THE TIME
  • 00:46:44.200 --> 00:46:46.020
  • BETWEEN WHEN YOU HEAR THAT
  • 00:46:46.020 --> 00:46:48.010
  • MESSAGE AND WHEN YOU ULTIMATELY
  • 00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:49.170
  • DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT, THE
  • 00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:50.250
  • ENEMY IS GONNA USE THAT TIME,
  • 00:46:50.250 --> 00:46:52.250
  • ANY WAY HE CAN, TO KEEP YOU FROM
  • 00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:54.280
  • MAKING THE DECISION.
  • 00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:56.130
  • THE BIBLE SAYS, "TODAY IS THE
  • 00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:58.160
  • DAY OF SALVATION.
  • 00:46:58.160 --> 00:47:00.290
  • NOW IS THE TIME TO RECEIVE."
  • 00:47:00.290 --> 00:47:03.180
  • SO IF YOU'RE WATCHING TODAY AND
  • 00:47:03.180 --> 00:47:04.110
  • YOU'RE LISTENING AND YOU WANNA
  • 00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:05.290
  • GO TO HEAVEN AND YOU'RE SAYING,
  • 00:47:05.290 --> 00:47:06.210
  • "WELL, I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT
  • 00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:07.150
  • IT," OR SOME PEOPLE SAY, "WELL,
  • 00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:08.070
  • WHEN I GET CLOSE TO MY END OF MY
  • 00:47:08.070 --> 00:47:11.040
  • LIFE--" WHAT AN ARROGANT THING
  • 00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:13.000
  • TO SAY THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVE-- I
  • 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.070
  • MEAN, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE
  • 00:47:15.070 --> 00:47:17.280
  • STORY.
  • 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.270
  • I HAVE A DOCTOR WHO OPERATED ON
  • 00:47:18.270 --> 00:47:20.000
  • MY KNEES.
  • 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.080
  • I HAD BOTH OF MY KNEES REPLACED
  • 00:47:21.080 --> 00:47:22.000
  • ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.210
  • HE'S A BRILLIANT MAN, AND HE
  • 00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:24.110
  • LIVES IN ALABAMA.
  • 00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:27.000
  • HE WENT TO THE DOCTOR'S A WEEK
  • 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.140
  • AGO AND IN GREAT HEALTH, 46
  • 00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:32.150
  • YEARS OF AGE, AND HE DIED
  • 00:47:32.150 --> 00:47:34.070
  • YESTERDAY--
  • 00:47:34.070 --> 00:47:36.120
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:47:36.120 --> 00:47:37.190
  • - DAVID: -- OF A SEVERE CASE OF
  • 00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:38.110
  • LEUKEMIA.
  • 00:47:38.110 --> 00:47:39.280
  • NOW, DO YOU THINK THAT MAN WOKE
  • 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.200
  • UP AND THOUGHT THAT HE WAS--
  • 00:47:40.200 --> 00:47:42.040
  • THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN?
  • 00:47:42.040 --> 00:47:43.100
  • AND NEITHER DID HIS FAMILY;
  • 00:47:43.100 --> 00:47:44.270
  • NEITHER DID ANY OF US WHO LOVED
  • 00:47:44.270 --> 00:47:45.240
  • HIM.
  • 00:47:45.240 --> 00:47:47.200
  • LIFE IS UNCERTAIN, AND SO IF GOD
  • 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:49.150
  • IS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:51.190
  • SOUL AND ABOUT GOIN' TO HEAVEN,
  • 00:47:51.190 --> 00:47:53.150
  • TOMORROW ISN'T THE TIME TO DO
  • 00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:55.030
  • IT.
  • 00:47:55.030 --> 00:47:56.090
  • TONIGHT IS THE TIME TO DO IT
  • 00:47:56.090 --> 00:47:57.200
  • BECAUSE GOD IS TALKING TO YOU
  • 00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:58.290
  • NOW.
  • 00:47:58.290 --> 00:47:59.260
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:01.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.210
  • JUST TAKE ANOTHER MOMENT,
  • 00:48:04.210 --> 00:48:05.290
  • AND IF SOMEBODY JUST TUNED
  • 00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:08.050
  • IN AND THEY WANNA RESPOND
  • 00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:11.030
  • TO THAT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:48:11.030 --> 00:48:12.200
  • ABOUT HEAVEN--
  • 00:48:12.200 --> 00:48:13.130
  • - LAURIE: TALKIN' ABOUT THE
  • 00:48:13.130 --> 00:48:14.170
  • MOST IMPORTANT DECISION IN YOUR
  • 00:48:14.170 --> 00:48:15.090
  • LIFE.
  • 00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:16.040
  • - MATT: YEAH, WE NEED TO MAKE
  • 00:48:16.040 --> 00:48:16.280
  • SURE-- SOMETIMES THEY WANNA PRAY
  • 00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:17.260
  • A PRAYER.
  • 00:48:17.260 --> 00:48:19.140
  • JUST DO A PRAYER AND, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:48:19.140 --> 00:48:20.060
  • EVEN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'LL
  • 00:48:20.060 --> 00:48:21.110
  • REPEAT IT WITH YOU, SO JUST A
  • 00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:22.260
  • SHORT PRAYER 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:48:22.260 --> 00:48:24.150
  • KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE
  • 00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:26.260
  • AUDIENCE, AND THEY NEED TO GET
  • 00:48:27.090 --> 00:48:30.090
  • SAVED SO-- [LAUGHTER] AND SO I
  • 00:48:30.090 --> 00:48:31.200
  • JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST MAKE
  • 00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:32.120
  • SURE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:48:32.120 --> 00:48:33.230
  • WOULD YOU, PLEASE?
  • 00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:35.240
  • - DAVID: ALL RIGHT.
  • 00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:36.100
  • JUST SIMPLY PRAY THIS PRAYER:
  • 00:48:36.100 --> 00:48:38.180
  • "DEAR GOD, I WANT TO GO TO
  • 00:48:38.180 --> 00:48:41.040
  • HEAVEN WHEN I DIE, AND YOU'VE
  • 00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.180
  • TOLD ME IN YOUR BOOK THERE'S
  • 00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:46.150
  • ONLY ONE WAY, AND THAT'S TO
  • 00:48:47.250 --> 00:48:50.250
  • PLACE MY FAITH IN YOUR SON,
  • 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.170
  • JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:48:53.220 --> 00:48:56.220
  • AND SO TODAY I MAKE THAT
  • 00:48:56.220 --> 00:48:58.190
  • DECISION.
  • 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.000
  • I DECIDE TO TRUST JESUS CHRIST
  • 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.070
  • ALONE FOR ETERNAL LIFE.
  • 00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:11.160
  • JESUS, YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE OF
  • 00:49:11.160 --> 00:49:13.060
  • HEAVEN, AND I BELIEVE IN YOU,
  • 00:49:15.080 --> 00:49:18.080
  • AND I ACCEPT YOU AS MY SAVIOR.
  • 00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:20.000
  • PLEASE FORGIVE MY SIN.
  • 00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.130
  • GIVE ME A CLEAN HEART, AND I
  • 00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:27.030
  • WILL LIVE FOR YOU FOR THE REST
  • 00:49:27.030 --> 00:49:28.070
  • OF MY LIFE.
  • 00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.010
  • THANK YOU, LORD."
  • 00:49:29.030 --> 00:49:32.030
  • - MATT: AMEN.
  • 00:49:32.030 --> 00:49:33.220
  • - DAVID: AMEN.
  • 00:49:33.220 --> 00:49:34.100
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:36.040
  • YOU'RE ALL GETTIN' TO GO TO
  • 00:49:36.040 --> 00:49:36.240
  • HEAVEN NOW!
  • 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:37.180
  • COME ON, NOW!
  • 00:49:37.180 --> 00:49:38.030
  • AND WE ARE REVEALING THOSE
  • 00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:42.020
  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN.
  • 00:49:42.020 --> 00:49:44.070
  • ALL MONTH OF JULY, IT'S OUR
  • 00:49:44.070 --> 00:49:47.060
  • OFFER.
  • 00:49:47.060 --> 00:49:48.050
  • - FEMALE: IS THERE A HEAVEN?
  • 00:49:51.100 --> 00:49:52.090
  • - MALE: WILL I SEE FAMILY
  • 00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:53.000
  • MEMBERS?
  • 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.130
  • - MALE: WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
  • 00:49:54.130 --> 00:49:55.060
  • - FEMALE: IS THERE GONNA BE AN
  • 00:49:55.060 --> 00:49:55.280
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: THE ANSWER TO
  • 00:49:57.260 --> 00:49:58.180
  • THESE QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
  • 00:49:58.180 --> 00:50:00.010
  • DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
  • 00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:01.210
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:02.170
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:50:02.170 --> 00:50:04.180
  • SO AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKS
  • 00:50:04.180 --> 00:50:06.030
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT
  • 00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.080
  • THIS MONTH, WE WANT TO SEND YOU
  • 00:50:08.080 --> 00:50:09.160
  • YOUR OWN COPY; AND FOR YOUR
  • 00:50:09.160 --> 00:50:11.170
  • SPECIAL GIFT OF $70 OR MORE,
  • 00:50:11.170 --> 00:50:13.120
  • WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE
  • 00:50:13.120 --> 00:50:14.250
  • DR. JEREMIAH'S THREE-BOOK
  • 00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:16.240
  • "ANSWERS COLLECTION."
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  • IN THESE UNIQUE, PROMISE-FILLED
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  • BOOKS, YOU'LL DISCOVER CONCRETE,
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  • BIBLICAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
  • 00:50:21.180 --> 00:50:23.200
  • ABOUT PROPHECY, HEAVEN, AND
  • 00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:25.250
  • SPIRITUAL WARFARE; OR FOR YOUR
  • 00:50:25.250 --> 00:50:28.030
  • GENEROUS GIFT OF $200 OR MORE IN
  • 00:50:28.030 --> 00:50:30.000
  • SUPPORT OF TBN, WE'LL SEND ALL
  • 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.250
  • THESE RESOURCES, PLUS THE
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  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:50:35.160 --> 00:50:37.040
  • HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
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  • SET.
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  • THIS COMPREHENSIVE, STEP-BY-STEP
  • 00:50:41.080 --> 00:50:42.140
  • TEACHING EXPLORES THE
  • 00:50:42.140 --> 00:50:44.110
  • OFTEN-HIDDEN TRUTHS IN SCRIPTURE
  • 00:50:44.110 --> 00:50:46.280
  • ABOUT THE GLORY OF HEAVEN AND
  • 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.220
  • WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU GET
  • 00:50:48.220 --> 00:50:50.100
  • THERE.
  • 00:50:50.100 --> 00:50:52.190
  • - DAVID: AND SO IF YOU WERE TO
  • 00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:53.110
  • SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD JUST
  • 00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:54.070
  • SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT TURNED
  • 00:50:54.070 --> 00:50:56.250
  • AROUND, AND ALL THE HUES OF THE
  • 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:58.040
  • GLORY OF THE CITY WOULD BE SO
  • 00:50:58.040 --> 00:50:58.260
  • OVERWHELMING.
  • 00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:00.110
  • IT WOULD TAKE YOUR BREATH AWAY.
  • 00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:01.260
  • - ANNOUNCER: FOR MORE THAN 40
  • 00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:03.130
  • YEARS, TBN PARTNERS HAVE SHARED
  • 00:51:03.130 --> 00:51:05.000
  • JESUS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND
  • 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.160
  • TO THE FAR CORNERS OF THE WORLD.
  • 00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:08.150
  • YOUR FAITHFUL SUPPORT OF THIS
  • 00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:10.200
  • EVER-EXPANDING GLOBAL OUTREACH
  • 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:12.230
  • ENSURES THAT, ONE BY ONE, LOST
  • 00:51:12.230 --> 00:51:15.010
  • SOULS CAN BE SAVED AND NEW
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  • BELIEVERS DISCIPLED IN GOD'S
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  • WORD.
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  • CALL 800-201-5200, OR GO
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  • SECURELY ONLINE TO
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  • TBN.ORG/GIVING, TO CHOOSE YOUR
  • 00:51:26.100 --> 00:51:29.100
  • LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND RECEIVE
  • 00:51:29.100 --> 00:51:31.020
  • YOUR COPY OF "REVEALING THE
  • 00:51:31.020 --> 00:51:33.110
  • MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN," OR THE
  • 00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:34.210
  • "ANSWERS" BOOK COLLECTION, OR
  • 00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:38.080
  • THE COMPLETE BUNDLE, FEATURING
  • 00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:40.110
  • THE "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:51:40.110 --> 00:51:42.020
  • HEAVEN," FIVE-CD AND SIX-DVD
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  • SET.
  • 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:44.210
  • DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:46.020
  • - MATT: WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:53.110
  • HEAVEN!
  • 00:51:53.110 --> 00:51:53.220
  • THAT'S WHAT WE DO AROUND HERE.
  • 00:51:53.220 --> 00:51:54.270
  • AND, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU GIVE
  • 00:51:55.020 --> 00:51:58.020
  • YOU KNOW, KEEP SATELLITES,
  • 00:52:01.100 --> 00:52:01.290
  • PREACHING THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:52:01.290 --> 00:52:03.260
  • THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
  • 00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:05.110
  • THIS BOOK ISN'T A $200 BOOK OR
  • 00:52:05.110 --> 00:52:07.060
  • THAT WHOLE PACKAGE, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:52:07.060 --> 00:52:08.160
  • THAT IS YOUR WAY OF HELPING
  • 00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:11.160
  • SPREAD THE GOSPEL AROUND THE
  • 00:52:11.160 --> 00:52:14.050
  • WORLD, SO THAT REWARD THING THAT
  • 00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:16.220
  • WE WERE TALKIN' ABOUT EARLIER,
  • 00:52:16.220 --> 00:52:17.130
  • YOU SHARE IN THAT REWARD.
  • 00:52:17.130 --> 00:52:19.170
  • SO WHEN YOU CALL, YOU'RE
  • 00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:22.000
  • SUPPORTING CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
  • 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.020
  • YOU'RE NOT JUST GETTING THIS
  • 00:52:23.020 --> 00:52:24.030
  • BOOK.
  • 00:52:24.030 --> 00:52:24.270
  • BUT, GRANDMA, GET THIS BOOK AND
  • 00:52:24.270 --> 00:52:25.260
  • GIVE IT-- YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO
  • 00:52:25.260 --> 00:52:28.240
  • YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SON, YOUR
  • 00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:32.140
  • DAUGHTER, YOUR GRANDKIDS.
  • 00:52:32.140 --> 00:52:33.130
  • SEND IT TO SOMEBODY.
  • 00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:35.080
  • IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, GIVE IT TO
  • 00:52:35.080 --> 00:52:36.040
  • THE CRANKY NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR,
  • 00:52:36.040 --> 00:52:37.060
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:52:37.060 --> 00:52:38.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:39.160
  • - LAURIE: STICK IT IN THEIR
  • 00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:40.060
  • MAILBOX!
  • 00:52:40.060 --> 00:52:40.200
  • - MATT: YEAH, JUST GIVE IT
  • 00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:41.250
  • AWAY, BUT YOU'RE SUPPORTING
  • 00:52:41.250 --> 00:52:43.180
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION WHEN YOU DO
  • 00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:44.180
  • THAT.
  • 00:52:44.180 --> 00:52:45.120
  • I NOTICED ON THE-- LET ME SAY
  • 00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:47.080
  • THIS: I NOTICED ONE OF THE SHOTS
  • 00:52:47.080 --> 00:52:48.100
  • THERE, WE WERE IN LAHORE,
  • 00:52:48.100 --> 00:52:50.020
  • PAKISTAN.
  • 00:52:50.020 --> 00:52:52.230
  • THINK ABOUT IT, PARTNERS.
  • 00:52:52.230 --> 00:52:53.120
  • WE HAVE A COMPLETE URDU LANGUAGE
  • 00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:56.250
  • NETWORK, 24 HOURS A DAY, ON THE
  • 00:52:56.250 --> 00:52:59.200
  • AIR, PREACHING TO THOSE PEOPLE
  • 00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:02.080
  • THAT ONLY UNDERSTAND URDU.
  • 00:53:02.080 --> 00:53:04.020
  • MOST OF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT
  • 00:53:04.020 --> 00:53:05.210
  • THERE WAS AN URDU LANGUAGE.
  • 00:53:05.210 --> 00:53:07.280
  • OKAY, 300 MILLION PEOPLE IN
  • 00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.270
  • NORTHERN INDIA, PAKISTAN,
  • 00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:12.020
  • AFGHANISTAN, SPEAK URDU.
  • 00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:14.110
  • WE JUST HEARD THIS WEEK-- WE'RE
  • 00:53:14.110 --> 00:53:17.110
  • IN THE MONTH OF JULY 2017-- GOT
  • 00:53:17.110 --> 00:53:19.020
  • AN E-MAIL FROM BOB FOPMA, OUR
  • 00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:24.120
  • COO AROUND HERE, THAT WE NOW
  • 00:53:24.120 --> 00:53:26.240
  • HAVE A PARTNERED NETWORK IN
  • 00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:28.280
  • BULGARIA WITH A LICENSE, 24
  • 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.200
  • HOURS A DAY, FOR THE ENTIRE
  • 00:53:31.200 --> 00:53:32.290
  • COUNTRY IN THE BULGARIAN
  • 00:53:32.290 --> 00:53:34.160
  • LANGUAGE.
  • 00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:38.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:38.200 --> 00:53:39.130
  • AND SO THE IDEA THAT
  • 00:53:39.130 --> 00:53:39.290
  • THERE ARE NOW SOME 13 OR 14
  • 00:53:39.290 --> 00:53:42.270
  • LANGUAGE NETWORKS GOING AROUND
  • 00:53:42.270 --> 00:53:43.250
  • THE WORLD, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
  • 00:53:43.250 --> 00:53:46.010
  • SELL YOU A BOOK.
  • 00:53:46.010 --> 00:53:48.120
  • WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE YOU
  • 00:53:48.120 --> 00:53:49.200
  • WITH THIS GREAT CONTENT.
  • 00:53:49.200 --> 00:53:50.270
  • YOU'RE HELPING CHRISTIAN
  • 00:53:50.270 --> 00:53:52.210
  • TELEVISION GO AROUND THE WORLD
  • 00:53:52.210 --> 00:53:54.280
  • BY CALLING THAT NUMBER ON THE
  • 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.140
  • SCREEN.
  • 00:53:56.220 --> 00:53:59.220
  • - LAURIE: AND I WAS READING
  • 00:53:59.220 --> 00:54:00.180
  • TODAY THAT 250.000 PEOPLE DIE A
  • 00:54:00.180 --> 00:54:01.150
  • DAY.
  • 00:54:01.150 --> 00:54:03.060
  • - DAVID: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:03.240
  • - MATT: A DAY.
  • 00:54:03.240 --> 00:54:04.080
  • - LAURIE: A DAY.
  • 00:54:04.080 --> 00:54:04.230
  • THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO HEAVEN,
  • 00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:06.020
  • OR THEY'RE GOING TO HELL.
  • 00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:07.090
  • - DAVID: RIGHT.
  • 00:54:07.090 --> 00:54:07.230
  • - LAURIE: AT 200-- THAT'S A
  • 00:54:07.230 --> 00:54:09.230
  • QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE A
  • 00:54:09.230 --> 00:54:10.140
  • DAY, DYING.
  • 00:54:10.140 --> 00:54:11.200
  • - DAVID: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:12.140
  • AND THAT'S MORE THAN LIVE IN
  • 00:54:12.140 --> 00:54:13.250
  • MANY OF THE LITTLE VILLAGES AND
  • 00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:14.170
  • CITIES WHERE WE LIVE.
  • 00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:15.290
  • WHOLE CITIES DIE IN ONE DAY.
  • 00:54:15.290 --> 00:54:17.120
  • - LAURIE: ISN'T THAT SOMETHIN'?
  • 00:54:17.120 --> 00:54:18.070
  • SO NOW THAT EVERYONE THAT'S
  • 00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:19.170
  • WATCHING TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY
  • 00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:21.070
  • GOING TO HEAVEN, WHAT...
  • 00:54:21.070 --> 00:54:23.040
  • - MATT: WELL, WHAT DO WE NEED
  • 00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:26.170
  • TO THINK ABOUT IN JUST YOUR
  • 00:54:26.170 --> 00:54:28.190
  • FINAL THOUGHTS HERE?
  • 00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.050
  • WE GOT A LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES.
  • 00:54:29.050 --> 00:54:29.280
  • - DAVID: YEAH, LET ME JUST JUMP
  • 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:30.200
  • IN HERE AND SAY, ONE OF THE
  • 00:54:30.200 --> 00:54:31.130
  • THINGS PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HEAVEN
  • 00:54:31.130 --> 00:54:33.100
  • IS "WELL, YOU'RE JUST LIVIN' IN
  • 00:54:33.100 --> 00:54:35.060
  • THE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE
  • 00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:36.220
  • LIVIN' IN-- ON THIS EARTH.
  • 00:54:36.220 --> 00:54:37.260
  • WHY SHOULD WE SPEND ALL OUR
  • 00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.050
  • TIME--" LISTEN TO ME: EVERY
  • 00:54:39.050 --> 00:54:41.180
  • PASSAGE, ALMOST, IN THE BIBLE
  • 00:54:41.180 --> 00:54:43.030
  • THAT SPEAKS ABOUT HEAVEN, HAS A
  • 00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:45.110
  • PRACTICAL APPLICATION FOR TODAY.
  • 00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:46.240
  • FOR INSTANCE, THE PASSAGE I'VE
  • 00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:48.070
  • BEEN QUOTING TONIGHT, IT SAYS,
  • 00:54:48.070 --> 00:54:50.200
  • "IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE ARE MANY
  • 00:54:50.200 --> 00:54:51.150
  • MANSIONS," DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT
  • 00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:52.260
  • PASSAGE STARTS?
  • 00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:54.080
  • "LET NOT YOUR HEART BE
  • 00:54:54.080 --> 00:54:55.050
  • TROUBLED."
  • 00:54:55.050 --> 00:54:56.000
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:56.160
  • - DAVID: YOU KNOW, EVERY
  • 00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:57.250
  • PASSAGE LIKE THAT, THE PASSAGE
  • 00:54:57.250 --> 00:54:58.250
  • ABOUT GOIN' TO CHURCH, IN
  • 00:54:58.250 --> 00:54:59.150
  • HEBREWS SAYS, "AND FORSAKE NOT
  • 00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:01.290
  • THE ASSEMBLING OF YOURSELVES
  • 00:55:01.290 --> 00:55:03.180
  • TOGETHER, AS THE MANNER OF SOME
  • 00:55:03.180 --> 00:55:04.220
  • IS, AND SO MUCH THE MORE, AS YOU
  • 00:55:04.220 --> 00:55:07.050
  • SEE THE DAY APPROACHING."
  • 00:55:07.050 --> 00:55:08.020
  • IN OTHER WORDS,
  • 00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:09.170
  • EVERY PLACE YOU SEE PROPHECY
  • 00:55:09.170 --> 00:55:11.220
  • ABOUT HEAVEN, PROPHECY
  • 00:55:11.220 --> 00:55:12.250
  • ABOUT THE FUTURE, IF YOU JUST
  • 00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:14.060
  • LOOK, YOU WILL FIND A LITTLE
  • 00:55:14.060 --> 00:55:15.290
  • NUGGET IN THAT PASSAGE THAT
  • 00:55:15.290 --> 00:55:17.030
  • SAYS, "AND THAT'S WHAT HAS TO DO
  • 00:55:17.030 --> 00:55:18.110
  • WITH TODAY."
  • 00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:21.010
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK AROUND
  • 00:55:21.010 --> 00:55:21.250
  • IN YOUR WORLD WITH A HEART FULL
  • 00:55:21.250 --> 00:55:23.030
  • OF ANXIETY.
  • 00:55:23.030 --> 00:55:25.160
  • IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING
  • 00:55:25.160 --> 00:55:26.230
  • AND YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THERE,
  • 00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:28.030
  • YOU CAN SIT BACK AND RELAX AND
  • 00:55:28.030 --> 00:55:29.230
  • BE THE PERSON GOD WANTS YOU TO
  • 00:55:29.230 --> 00:55:30.210
  • BE.
  • 00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:31.070
  • - MATT: LOVE THAT.
  • 00:55:31.070 --> 00:55:31.290
  • BEAUTIFUL!
  • 00:55:31.290 --> 00:55:32.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:32.200 --> 00:55:33.200
  • AND, DR. JEREMIAH,
  • 00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:35.220
  • YOU REALIZE YOU'RE GONNA STICK
  • 00:55:35.220 --> 00:55:38.070
  • WITH US, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:41.130
  • YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER TIME.
  • 00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:43.160
  • THIS IS THE FULL, SECOND
  • 00:55:43.160 --> 00:55:45.170
  • GENERATION OF TBN, AND I, FOR
  • 00:55:45.170 --> 00:55:47.170
  • ONE, AM SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:55:47.170 --> 00:55:48.190
  • WITH US, THAT YOU'RE FOR US,
  • 00:55:48.190 --> 00:55:50.070
  • THAT YOUR VOICE IS STAYING WITH
  • 00:55:50.070 --> 00:55:51.200
  • US.
  • 00:55:51.200 --> 00:55:52.140
  • BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU GO TO
  • 00:55:52.140 --> 00:55:54.000
  • HEAVEN AND YOU LOOK VERY
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  • RADIANT, YOUR HAIR'S GONNA
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  • LOOK THE SAME, OKAY?
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  • I'M JUST TELLIN' YA 'CAUSE IT
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  • LOOKS BEAUTIFUL NOW!
  • 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.160
  • - LAURIE: YOU JUST CAN'T GET
  • 00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.070
  • ANY BETTER THAN THAT!
  • 00:56:01.070 --> 00:56:01.240
  • - MATT: AND SO YOU'RE GONNA BE
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  • WITH US.
  • 00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:03.000
  • THE SECOND GENERATION OF TBN IS
  • 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:04.010
  • FULLY REALIZED HERE.
  • 00:56:04.010 --> 00:56:06.170
  • THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US
  • 00:56:06.170 --> 00:56:07.100
  • AND KEEPING YOUR VOICE HERE.
  • 00:56:07.100 --> 00:56:09.170
  • - DAVID: THANK YOU FOR LETTING
  • 00:56:09.170 --> 00:56:10.090
  • ME HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
  • 00:56:10.090 --> 00:56:11.050
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:56:11.050 --> 00:56:12.050
  • - DAVID: AMEN.
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  • - MATT: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:56:13.220 --> 00:56:15.010
  • HEAVEN, AND JULY IS OUR GIFT.
  • 00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:18.040
  • - LAURIE: OUR BLESSED HOPE.
  • 00:56:18.040 --> 00:56:19.060
  • - MATT: LET ME JUST TELL YA
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  • SOMETHIN': SUPPORT CHRISTIAN
  • 00:56:20.120 --> 00:56:21.060
  • TELEVISION.
  • 00:56:21.060 --> 00:56:22.190
  • GET THIS GREAT CONTENT.
  • 00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:23.170
  • IT'S MEANINGFUL.
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  • THAT'S WHY WE CARE ABOUT IT, AND
  • 00:56:24.210 --> 00:56:26.010
  • IT'S HEAVEN.
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  • IT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT
  • 00:56:26.210 --> 00:56:29.060
  • SUBJECT.
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  • WE'LL SEE YA NEXT TIME.
  • 00:56:29.240 --> 00:56:30.120
  • THANK YOU, DR. JEREMIAH, FOR
  • 00:56:30.120 --> 00:56:31.020
  • BEING WITH US.
  • 00:56:31.020 --> 00:56:32.020
  • WE'LL SEE YA NEXT TIME!
  • 00:56:32.020 --> 00:56:32.260
  • ANNOUNCER: WHAT WILL HEAVEN BE
  • 00:56:50.130 --> 00:56:51.040
  • LIKE?
  • 00:56:51.040 --> 00:56:52.040
  • THE ANSWERS TO THIS AND OTHER
  • 00:56:52.040 --> 00:56:52.290
  • QUESTIONS ARE UNCOVERED IN
  • 00:56:52.290 --> 00:56:54.060
  • DAVID JEREMIAH'S NEW BOOK,
  • 00:56:54.060 --> 00:56:56.140
  • "REVEALING THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:56:56.140 --> 00:56:57.040
  • HEAVEN."
  • 00:56:57.040 --> 00:56:58.180
  • AND AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKS
  • 00:56:58.180 --> 00:57:00.120
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT,
  • 00:57:00.120 --> 00:57:01.020
  • WE'LL SEND YOU A COPY.
  • 00:57:01.020 --> 00:57:03.040
  • - DAVID: AND SO, IF YOU WERE TO
  • 00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:03.280
  • SEE IT FROM AFAR, IT WOULD
  • 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:04.260
  • JUST SPARKLE AND SHINE AS IT
  • 00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:06.050
  • TURNED AROUND.
  • 00:57:06.050 --> 00:57:07.290
  • AND ALL THE HUES OF THE GLORY OF
  • 00:57:07.290 --> 00:57:09.010
  • THE CITY WOULD BE SO
  • 00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:09.230
  • OVERWHELMING, IT WOULD TAKE YOUR
  • 00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:10.250
  • BREATH AWAY.
  • 00:57:10.250 --> 00:57:13.240
  • - ANNOUNCER: CALL, WRITE OR GO
  • 00:57:13.240 --> 00:57:14.160
  • ONLINE TO MAKE YOUR BEST GIFT,
  • 00:57:14.160 --> 00:57:15.070
  • "DISCOVER THE MYSTERIES OF
  • 00:57:15.070 --> 00:57:16.020