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  • [Automated] Tonight, OnPraise from Nashville.
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  • America's biblical healthcoach and author, Jordan Rubin.
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  • And now, Matt and Laurie Crouch.
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  • - Praise come to youfrom beautiful Nashville,
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  • thank you Huckabee, forletting us use your studio--
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  • - It is--- Nice studio.
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  • - Very nice.
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  • Jordan Rubin, you're gonnabe with us all one hour.
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  • We're talking about areally interesting thing,
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  • dreams, dreaming big,
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  • having a dream, havinga vision to fulfill.
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  • You think of things likethe movie field of dreams,
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  • you think of singerslike Susan Boyle,
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  • you think of Martin LutherKing, "I had a dream."
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  • Something inside of us, Jordan,
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  • wants to change the world orwants to help change the world.
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  • I don't know whatit is inside of us,
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  • except some God-givenDNA, string of our DNA,
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  • comes from a God
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  • that put something in us,
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  • to fulfill something great.
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  • This is your book,"The Joseph Blessing",
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  • but basically, it almostChronicles a little bit
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  • of your own life story.
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  • How do you wanna starttalking about this book,
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  • which is availableby the way right now,
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  • with the numberthat's on the screen,
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  • but how do you wannastart talking about this?
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  • Because your life reallyis embedded in this book,
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  • your only non-healthrelated book, okay?
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  • So when somebody thatmakes their living,
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  • in health-related matters,
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  • writes a book aboutsomething different,
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  • you might wanna payattention to it.
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  • Jordan Ruben, "TheJoseph Blessing"
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  • How do you wanna start us off?
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  • - Well, I can tellyou the first,
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  • encounter I had withthe Joseph story,
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  • that was extremely meaningful.
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  • I'm not talking aboutthe Donny Osman,
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  • "Joseph and theTechnicolor Dreamcoat"
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  • a little play, but something
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  • that made this story sopersonal to me, it was 2008,
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  • I was traveling thecountry, promoting a book,
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  • and recording atelevision program for TBN
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  • called Perfect Way to America.
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  • So we had a brand new book,
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  • and we went to 250cities in America,
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  • we would kinda ofadopt families,
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  • clean out the junkin their pantry,
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  • and fridge, replace itwith healthy things,
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  • chronicle their weight loss.
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  • So, overcoming this orthat health challenge,
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  • we did seminars,spoken churches,
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  • it was a massiveundertaking at the time.
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  • And I was sitting inthe back of the bus
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  • for hours upon hours, we wereon the road six days a week,
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  • and it was one of those things
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  • that sounded reallygood on paper,
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  • (laughs) but it was ablessing, we got a chance
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  • to minister to people,meet people was incredible.
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  • Something happened to methat changed my life forever,
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  • I'm sitting in the back,now we had this 45 foot bus,
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  • and it was the band member bus.
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  • So, it wasn't the onewith the master suite,
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  • it was the one with the 16--- Bumps, bumps.
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  • - Yeah, and so it'dbe two in the morning,
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  • everyone rolls outcool experience.
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  • So, I'm sitting in theback and I over the years,
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  • had been attracted to not justhealthy and nutritious food,
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  • and how to prepare it,consume it, et cetera,
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  • but I also was fascinatedwith where my food came from.
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  • Now, I was a kid in the suburbs,
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  • suburbs slicker, I was notsomeone who grew anything,
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  • didn't have a green thumb,pinky, or middle finger,
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  • I just bought food, right?
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  • But I was driving betweenNebraska and Iowa,
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  • I don't know if you've ever been
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  • where the massive windmills are,
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  • but what else you seeare massive farms,
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  • and green is a beautiful color,
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  • you're attractedto the countryside.
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  • Something within us,
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  • wants to go back toour agrarian roots.
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  • Because in America,and around the world,
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  • we all came from farmers.
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  • So I would be driving for hours,
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  • and I'd see thesebeautiful fields,
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  • and corn or soy,
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  • and from afar theylook beautiful,
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  • but as we get closer,you kinda see,
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  • what is known asmonocrop agriculture.
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  • This is growing corn,for miles and miles,
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  • that's not how God intendedthe landscape to be.
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  • Farming was always diverse,there were small farmers,
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  • that had 20, 30 differentcrops within the seasons.
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  • Not one crop, notgenetic modification,
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  • not the whole big system,
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  • that can glomeratesthat we deal with.
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  • And it was interesting,
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  • I was looking at thesebeautiful fields,
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  • and when I got closer to it,I didn't see beauty anymore,
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  • I saw my grandchildren'sstolen future.
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  • Now that's pretty deep,
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  • for being in the backof a bus on a tour,
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  • and what thatimmediately felt to me,
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  • and literally Godspeaking to me in 2008,
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  • he said, "Jordan, I wantyou to be a Joseph."
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  • So I'm looking at fields,
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  • waiting for my nextseminar in the evening,
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  • and God says, I wantyou to be a Joseph.
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  • As clear as day now, peopleare watching and saying,
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  • "Did you hear his voice?
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  • "Did he show up?"
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  • I don't know how to say it,other than it was a knowing
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  • of God's still and small voice,
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  • but it was as realas if somebody
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  • in the front of the bus said,
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  • we're stopping for abathroom break, right?
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  • I heard it, I knew it,
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  • and because I was sittingby myself, had lots of time,
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  • I went and reviewedthe story of Joseph,
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  • which I clearly knew,
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  • I've read it, I'veseen dramatizations,there's been movies.
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  • I wanted to understand truly,
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  • what the story ofJoseph was about.
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  • Because if the Lord said,I'm gonna be a Joseph,
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  • I wanted to knowwhat that meant,
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  • and I understood,that that meant,
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  • I was going to bepart of bringing life
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  • and sustenance to peoplein a physical way.
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  • Because to distillthe Joseph story down,
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  • Joseph was a young man, whowas beloved by his father.
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  • He was his father's favorite,
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  • he was given a mantle, entrustedwith something powerful,
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  • he had a dream, that hewas able to interpret
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  • or God was through him.
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  • He went through majortrials and tribulations
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  • that looked like the dreamwas an absolute joke,
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  • or would never happen.
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  • And ultimately, hewas put in a position,
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  • to save the lives.
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  • Not only of the peoplethat tried to destroy him,
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  • but most of the civilized world.
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  • And it was not the waythat he thought it would go
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  • by any stretch, but heultimately persevered,
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  • and he provided throughthe God-given wisdom,
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  • food, and sustenance for people.
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  • So, I began an insatiable quest
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  • to understand thetimes we're living in,
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  • and how I, a person whois a suburb slicker,
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  • who was blessed tohave a business,
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  • and be in ministry, et cetera.
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  • But how could I meetthe needs of people,
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  • and what are those needs?
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  • And the Lord beganto speak to me about
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  • the world as we saw it,
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  • and almost like, oureducational system,
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  • our financial institutions,our healthcare system,
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  • feeling like it was theemperor's new clothes,
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  • something that was a facade.
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  • And I began to look ateverything differently,
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  • and I studied and learned,how to start to grow food,
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  • procure sources of water,
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  • and provide sustenance forpeople when they needed it.
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  • Because Joseph was told,
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  • through a dream ofPharaoh, by God's wisdom,
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  • that there was goingto be times of plenty,
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  • and times of famine,
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  • and that he shouldbegin to store up food.
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  • And he did that, as thesecond most powerful man
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  • probably in theworld at the time,
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  • to bring physicalsalvation to people.
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  • And I wanted tostart doing that,
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  • I had to start from scratch,
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  • I had to makerelationships and learn,
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  • and it was tough as allget out, but I obeyed God.
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  • And I will tellyou sitting here,
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  • that the fulfillment of thatdream is not complete yet.
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  • - Wow.
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  • - But I have prepared,and God has taken me
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  • truly to the lowest low,
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  • and to some of thehighest heights.
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  • And what I learnedthrough this process,
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  • not just that I neededto obey God at all costs,
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  • in other words, I'mdoing one thing,
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  • God says to go store up food,
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  • and sustenance fortimes of trouble.
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  • By the way, the economywas amazing at the time,
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  • and the world looked great,
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  • and like nothing badcould ever happen,
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  • but I decided to do whatJoseph and Noah did before him,
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  • make plans, for thingsthat were to come.
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  • And in the process, I wentthrough a life transformation,
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  • that I believe every,follower of God,
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  • goes through, or at leastGod wants them to go through
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  • because I believe,that every human being,
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  • whether you're sitting there,
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  • with a life threatening illness,
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  • whether you're a factoryworker, or worse,
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  • you're a displacedfactory worker
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  • in the times we'reliving in today.
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  • Maybe you're somebody who issingle, and lost a spouse,
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  • maybe you've always beenalone, maybe you have kids,
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  • or maybe you don't,maybe you've been told
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  • your whole lifeyou're insignificant,
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  • and you won'tamount to anything,
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  • or maybe you're flippingthrough this channel,
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  • and don't even know who God is,
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  • I believe God had put adream within your heart.
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  • And that dream, it couldhave happened at night,
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  • like a true nighttime dream,
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  • could be a daydream,could be a knowing,
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  • could be somethingyou wanted to do,
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  • when you were four years old.
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  • I believe that Godhas given you a dream,
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  • that can change the world.
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  • Everybody has one,sometimes we've buried it,
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  • it got a lot of dustaround it, collect it,
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  • and in a time like this today,
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  • when people's dreamsare being shattered,
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  • isn't that what we're hearing?
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  • Someone who opensup a restaurant, in2020, in February,
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  • and then in March, shutters it.
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  • Someone who is aboutto graduate college,
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  • but never gets thatchance to walk down.
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  • Someone who's gonna get married,
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  • and doesn't walk down the aisle,
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  • or somebody who hasspent their whole life,
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  • from age five now to 17,
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  • to be a superstarhigh school athlete,
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  • and loses their seniorseason of eligibility
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  • because of what's goingon in our world today.
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  • Everybody has a God-given dream,
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  • and I believe, that everybodyin their God-given dream
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  • will follow a predictablepath to get there,
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  • and it is not like this.
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  • - In recent months, we'veexperienced chaos and disruption
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  • that has seemed to touchevery area of our lives.
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  • The health of our bodies,
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  • and the peace of oursouls are under attack.
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  • Our work, our plans, and everyaspect of our daily routines,
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  • have been impacted,
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  • in light of all that,it's not surprising
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  • that for many believers,it feels like their hopes
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  • and dreams have beeninterrupted, put on hold,
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  • or maybe even destroyed.
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  • a different, morepromising perspective.
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  • for any gift of support to TBN,
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  • is Jordan Rubin's remarkablebook, "The Joseph Blessing".
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  • Matt and Laurie Crouch, havechosen this resource for you
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  • because in difficult times,it is vital to understand
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  • the biblical keys torising above adversity,
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  • and seeing yoursetbacks transformed
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  • into setups for God's blessings,
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  • and that's what you'lldiscover in the pages
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  • of The Joseph Blessing.
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  • - I believe that Godhas given you a dream
  • 00:12:03.178 --> 00:12:05.613
  • that can change theworld, but in order to see
  • 00:12:05.613 --> 00:12:09.417
  • God's dream in yourlife come to pass,
  • 00:12:09.417 --> 00:12:11.820
  • you've got to gothrough challenges.
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  • - [Woman] Equally relevantin this historic time,
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  • is Priscilla Shirer'sbook, "Life Interrupted"
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  • navigating the unexpected.
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  • In it one oftoday's most vibrant
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  • and relevant Bible teachers,brings you timely truth
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  • about how to successfullynavigate new seasons of life.
  • 00:12:26.467 --> 00:12:30.438
  • - He calls our namesand our hearts more,
  • 00:12:30.438 --> 00:12:32.841
  • not just because thegospel is powerful,
  • 00:12:32.841 --> 00:12:35.243
  • but because it's personal.
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  • He knows me, he knows you.
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  • - Both books, will perfectlyposition you to thrive
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  • of unrest and uncertainty.
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  • - Remember, your dreamsare important to God.
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  • - Jordan Rubin, TheJoseph Blessing.
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  • Like your own personal lifewith a dream inside of you.
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  • There is going to bethis process maybe.
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  • Now, the process may bedifferent for everyone.
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  • You know, there maybe certain things
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  • that are shortcutin one person's life
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  • and drug out longer,but, you know, I just,
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  • I always get a sensethat we're talking.
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  • This is mass communications,
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  • meaning Jordan and Laurie and I
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  • are sitting havinga conversation,
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  • but there are potentiallymillions of people
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  • watching this around the world
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  • and I just have,look, it's my opinion.
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  • I just thinkeverybody has a dream.
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  • I think everyone wantsto have a business
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  • or wants to have a ministryor wants to have, you know.
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  • And they want tochange the world.
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  • And what you reallyhave done for us here,
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  • is you've broken downthis story of Joseph
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  • in a way that reallykind of mirrors
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  • what you went through.
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  • I mean, you were atone stage in your life,
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  • dying of multipledifferent diseases,
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  • the least of which wasCrohn's disease and other.
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  • And now you are basically
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  • one of the world'stop formulators,
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  • if not the world top formulator,
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  • at the highest levelsof nutrition companies
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  • and the largest of companies
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  • and you formulatehealth products.
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  • You had a dream to do that,but you almost died in between.
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  • So the idea that God puts adream in somebody's heart,
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  • this is almostthe manual for it.
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  • Why don't you start breakingdown, Jordan, you know,
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  • when you had a dream,kind of some of the things
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  • that got thrown infront of your life,
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  • like Joseph had a few,you know, pits and prisons
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  • to come before hewent to the palace.
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  • - Absolutely, well,let me first say this,
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  • that this book was conceived
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  • by myself and Dr. Pete Sulack.
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  • Dr. Sulack is achiropractic physician
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  • who had a dream in his heart
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  • based on sort of a lineagethat he was unaware of
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  • to preach the gospelto the nation of India
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  • and see hundreds ofmillions of souls saved.
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  • And I had a dream, at the time,
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  • prior to conceivingthis book concept,
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  • to help feed the world in a time
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  • where there was gonnabe famine, drought,
  • 00:16:11.392 --> 00:16:13.661
  • economic collapse, et cetera,
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  • and neither of us were equipped.
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  • Neither of us sortof set out for this.
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  • It was almost thrust upon us
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  • but yet each of usbelieved in that dream
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  • as if it was the chairwe're sitting in,
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  • whether it wouldhold us up or not.
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  • And that's what realfaith is, right?
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  • I mean, I have faiththat I'm not gonna fall
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  • through this chair.
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  • That's what God says.
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  • God says, "Faith is thesubstance of things hoped for,
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  • "the evidence ofthings not seen."
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  • And a dream is aperfect example of that.
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  • And what's greatabout both Pete and I,
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  • neither of us have seenour complete fulfillment.
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  • I haven't fed the worldand Pete hasn't seen
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  • a billion souls washedin the blood of Jesus,
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  • but we both wake upevery day knowing
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  • that this is whatGod's called us to
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  • and we're gonna stick with it.
  • 00:17:02.577 --> 00:17:04.045
  • And Joseph spent 17 years,we don't know exactly,
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  • but scholars believe 17 years
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  • from being his father'sfavorite, entrusted with a lot.
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  • Hey, go tell me whatyour brothers areup to in the fields.
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  • Sort of the person whohe trusted the most,
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  • his father, Jacob, or Israel,
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  • to being almost killedby his brothers.
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  • They actuallywanted to kill him.
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  • Sold into slavery,becoming a servant,
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  • rising to the topof the servants,
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  • being falsely accused,getting kicked into prison,
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  • helping interpret dreamsthrough God's wisdom
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  • of two inmates saying,
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  • "Please tell Pharaoh aboutme when you get out."
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  • Nope, that doesn'thappen either.
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  • And ultimately, 17 years later,
  • 00:17:46.687 --> 00:17:50.458
  • he was lifted up tothe highest point.
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  • No coincidence that hewas 30 years of age.
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  • Joseph was about 30 years of age
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  • when he began saving the world.
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  • He was elevated to a position
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  • where he gave bread,the bread of life,
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  • to those who tried tokill him, his family,
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  • and then the rest of the world.
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  • And people knowthe Joseph story,
  • 00:18:11.879 --> 00:18:13.848
  • but it's a powerful story.
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  • So much so, that inJewish tradition,
  • 00:18:15.082 --> 00:18:18.619
  • they refer to Jesus asMashiach ben Yoseph,
  • 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:23.624
  • the suffering servant,Messiah ben Yoseph.
  • 00:18:25.560 --> 00:18:29.230
  • There's also Messiah benDavid, the conquering king,
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  • Messiah Son of David.
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  • The problem with Jews today,their lack of understanding,
  • 00:18:34.602 --> 00:18:39.607
  • is that was the same person
  • 00:18:40.474 --> 00:18:41.976
  • who would first come as thesuffering servant, Joseph,
  • 00:18:41.976 --> 00:18:44.845
  • and ultimately becomethe conquering king,which we believe.
  • 00:18:44.845 --> 00:18:48.649
  • So the story of Joseph isabout God giving him a dream
  • 00:18:48.649 --> 00:18:53.087
  • that his brotherswould bow down to him.
  • 00:18:53.087 --> 00:18:55.456
  • They were jealous,threw him in a pit
  • 00:18:55.456 --> 00:18:57.558
  • and he went through allthese terrible circumstances.
  • 00:18:57.558 --> 00:19:01.462
  • He didn't knowhe'd get out ever,
  • 00:19:01.462 --> 00:19:03.397
  • but he trusted God,stayed faithful,
  • 00:19:03.397 --> 00:19:05.366
  • and he ultimately savedthose that tried to kill him
  • 00:19:05.366 --> 00:19:08.402
  • and the rest of the world.
  • 00:19:08.402 --> 00:19:09.837
  • So my Joseph story didn't startwhen I got Crohn's disease
  • 00:19:09.837 --> 00:19:14.442
  • and those other illnessesand overcame those,
  • 00:19:17.178 --> 00:19:19.747
  • started an amazing company,starting writing books.
  • 00:19:19.747 --> 00:19:22.083
  • That was Chapter One.
  • 00:19:22.083 --> 00:19:23.651
  • I thought I had beenthrough the worst.
  • 00:19:23.651 --> 00:19:26.254
  • I was trapped in a prisonthat was my own body.
  • 00:19:26.254 --> 00:19:29.323
  • My before photo lookslike a Holocaust victim
  • 00:19:29.323 --> 00:19:33.094
  • or maybe a survivor.
  • 00:19:33.094 --> 00:19:35.162
  • And when I heard Godsay, "Be a Joseph,"
  • 00:19:35.162 --> 00:19:39.500
  • I thought that I had gonethrough the pit already, right?
  • 00:19:39.500 --> 00:19:42.670
  • Well, you just mentioned it.
  • 00:19:42.670 --> 00:19:44.238
  • So get this. I'm inthe back of a bus.
  • 00:19:44.238 --> 00:19:47.008
  • I'm gonna say thatit's May of 2008
  • 00:19:47.008 --> 00:19:51.445
  • and the Lord callsme to be a Joseph.
  • 00:19:51.445 --> 00:19:54.315
  • I'm in the middleof a 250-city tour.
  • 00:19:54.315 --> 00:19:56.951
  • The Lord says, "Be aJoseph." I'm studying.
  • 00:19:56.951 --> 00:19:59.153
  • I'm realizing that I'mgonna be one of many,
  • 00:19:59.153 --> 00:20:02.056
  • I believe, to bringfood, clothing, shelter
  • 00:20:02.056 --> 00:20:06.494
  • to the world because I'velearned, now, through studying,
  • 00:20:06.494 --> 00:20:10.865
  • that the only thingsthat are valuable today
  • 00:20:10.865 --> 00:20:12.566
  • were valuablethousands of years ago.
  • 00:20:12.566 --> 00:20:14.468
  • What Job considered valuable,
  • 00:20:14.468 --> 00:20:17.171
  • what Abraham consideredvaluable, Isaac,Jacob, et cetera,
  • 00:20:17.171 --> 00:20:20.474
  • food, clothing, landthat you can stand on,
  • 00:20:20.474 --> 00:20:23.444
  • water that you could drink.
  • 00:20:23.444 --> 00:20:24.679
  • This nonsense thatwe pay for something
  • 00:20:24.679 --> 00:20:28.316
  • or, I don't know about youall, I barely carry cash,
  • 00:20:28.316 --> 00:20:30.451
  • so if I pay for something,it's with a credit card
  • 00:20:30.451 --> 00:20:33.387
  • and usually peopleare buying something
  • 00:20:33.387 --> 00:20:35.489
  • with money they don't have
  • 00:20:35.489 --> 00:20:36.991
  • from someone who doesn't ownwhat they're selling them.
  • 00:20:36.991 --> 00:20:39.060
  • Imagine if we toldour great grandparents
  • 00:20:39.060 --> 00:20:40.895
  • that not only do we nothave gold and silver,
  • 00:20:40.895 --> 00:20:43.597
  • but we pay with apiece of plastic.
  • 00:20:43.597 --> 00:20:45.633
  • I mean, if you just thinkabout modern technology
  • 00:20:45.633 --> 00:20:48.202
  • and how far we'vestrayed from what's real.
  • 00:20:48.202 --> 00:20:51.605
  • So I'm getting all theserevelations as a young person
  • 00:20:51.605 --> 00:20:55.176
  • in my young 30's,thinking that wow,
  • 00:20:55.176 --> 00:20:58.579
  • this world that we live inis not as real as we think.
  • 00:20:58.579 --> 00:21:02.350
  • And what if the worldgoes into a crisis?
  • 00:21:02.350 --> 00:21:04.752
  • Who is going to help us whenthe average grocery store
  • 00:21:04.752 --> 00:21:07.988
  • has four days of food?
  • 00:21:07.988 --> 00:21:09.890
  • In New York, Manhattan,there's 18 hours of food.
  • 00:21:09.890 --> 00:21:14.362
  • We've seen this recently, right?
  • 00:21:14.362 --> 00:21:15.996
  • How desperate werewe for toilet paper
  • 00:21:15.996 --> 00:21:18.299
  • and paper towels recently?
  • 00:21:18.299 --> 00:21:19.867
  • We've endured somethingin the last few months
  • 00:21:19.867 --> 00:21:22.503
  • that's never happenedin our lifetime
  • 00:21:22.503 --> 00:21:24.772
  • and we thought it couldnever happen, right?
  • 00:21:24.772 --> 00:21:27.641
  • And for me, I'm learning.
  • 00:21:27.641 --> 00:21:31.078
  • I'm excited God's calledme to something great.
  • 00:21:31.078 --> 00:21:34.281
  • This is May.
  • 00:21:34.281 --> 00:21:35.750
  • In the month of June,almost turning July 2008,
  • 00:21:35.750 --> 00:21:40.488
  • I am sitting in thissame sort of motor coach,
  • 00:21:40.488 --> 00:21:45.226
  • you know, this tour bus,
  • 00:21:45.226 --> 00:21:47.027
  • and I remember thebus was rattling
  • 00:21:47.027 --> 00:21:50.831
  • and I started to getpain in my groin.
  • 00:21:50.831 --> 00:21:52.633
  • And I exercise regularly. Iwas exercising on the tour.
  • 00:21:52.633 --> 00:21:55.536
  • I'd bring my little dumbbellsand kettle bells in each room,
  • 00:21:55.536 --> 00:21:58.539
  • but as I'm about to endthe first half of the tour,
  • 00:21:58.539 --> 00:22:01.542
  • I'm in some pain.
  • 00:22:01.542 --> 00:22:03.377
  • And I'm wondering what'sgoing on but I'm ignoring it.
  • 00:22:03.377 --> 00:22:06.614
  • I was about to tapeanother TBN program.
  • 00:22:06.614 --> 00:22:09.316
  • It was an episodewe were calling TheSupernatural Athlete.
  • 00:22:09.316 --> 00:22:11.919
  • This is back in 2008.
  • 00:22:11.919 --> 00:22:13.354
  • I had a coupleprofessional athletes.
  • 00:22:13.354 --> 00:22:16.357
  • I had an aspiringhigh school athlete.
  • 00:22:16.357 --> 00:22:18.692
  • We were gonna takethem through a program
  • 00:22:18.692 --> 00:22:20.294
  • and show all theseresults, and of course,
  • 00:22:20.294 --> 00:22:22.296
  • I was gonna participate sortof as the non-athlete athlete
  • 00:22:22.296 --> 00:22:26.534
  • who was gonna be awesome.
  • 00:22:26.534 --> 00:22:27.968
  • But I'm starting tohave a lot of pain here
  • 00:22:27.968 --> 00:22:30.337
  • and I thought it was a hernia.
  • 00:22:30.337 --> 00:22:32.640
  • And I'm knowledgeableabout health,
  • 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.575
  • so I visited a physicianwho was actually
  • 00:22:34.575 --> 00:22:36.477
  • the team physician forthe Miami Dolphins.
  • 00:22:36.477 --> 00:22:38.612
  • A friend of mine connected me.
  • 00:22:38.612 --> 00:22:40.047
  • And I told him, I said, I thinkI have an inguinal hernia.
  • 00:22:40.047 --> 00:22:42.983
  • And he said thatlooks like that.
  • 00:22:42.983 --> 00:22:45.586
  • And, but I said to him,
  • 00:22:45.586 --> 00:22:48.656
  • "You know there's a coupleother strange symptoms.
  • 00:22:48.656 --> 00:22:51.358
  • "I wonder if it couldbe something else."
  • 00:22:51.358 --> 00:22:53.394
  • He said, "You know what?
  • 00:22:54.261 --> 00:22:56.096
  • "You should go tovisit a urologist."
  • 00:22:56.096 --> 00:22:57.298
  • And in fact, itwas uro-oncologist.
  • 00:22:57.298 --> 00:22:58.833
  • And it's interesting. I rememberit like it was yesterday.
  • 00:22:58.833 --> 00:23:01.335
  • I was going to meet Bishop Jakes
  • 00:23:01.335 --> 00:23:03.704
  • about an amazingplan we had discussed
  • 00:23:03.704 --> 00:23:07.475
  • to help AfricanAmericans get healthy
  • 00:23:07.475 --> 00:23:10.311
  • because they had less access
  • 00:23:10.311 --> 00:23:12.379
  • to health products andnutritional programs
  • 00:23:12.379 --> 00:23:15.149
  • and I was gonna flythere a few days later.
  • 00:23:15.149 --> 00:23:17.685
  • I think it was on Monday.
  • 00:23:17.685 --> 00:23:19.320
  • I went to see thedoctor on Friday.
  • 00:23:19.320 --> 00:23:21.021
  • He said, "You shouldn't fly.
  • 00:23:21.021 --> 00:23:23.023
  • "In fact, we need to get youin to see what's going on,"
  • 00:23:23.023 --> 00:23:26.193
  • like an exploratory procedure,
  • 00:23:26.193 --> 00:23:28.262
  • thinking they weregonna repair a hernia.
  • 00:23:28.262 --> 00:23:30.397
  • So I'm all excited about myJoseph mandate, this dream.
  • 00:23:30.397 --> 00:23:35.402
  • I'm about to visit one ofthe most renowned leaders
  • 00:23:36.871 --> 00:23:38.372
  • in America, certainlypastors, Bishop T.D. Jakes.
  • 00:23:38.372 --> 00:23:41.876
  • And but meanwhile,I'm in this pain
  • 00:23:41.876 --> 00:23:44.178
  • and I'm going toget this procedure
  • 00:23:44.178 --> 00:23:45.813
  • that was gonna be no big deal.
  • 00:23:45.813 --> 00:23:47.381
  • So I remember comingout of anesthesia.
  • 00:23:47.381 --> 00:23:49.950
  • I was being wheeled in andmy wife was there, Nicki,
  • 00:23:49.950 --> 00:23:54.955
  • and my mom was there, butI know my mom wasn't there
  • 00:23:56.423 --> 00:23:57.925
  • when they dropped me off.
  • 00:23:57.925 --> 00:23:58.959
  • Like why would my mom be there?
  • 00:23:58.959 --> 00:24:00.528
  • This was a littleroutine procedure.
  • 00:24:00.528 --> 00:24:02.897
  • It was nothing major.
  • 00:24:02.897 --> 00:24:03.998
  • And I'm coming out of anesthesia
  • 00:24:03.998 --> 00:24:06.534
  • and the doctor tellsme that I have cancer.
  • 00:24:06.534 --> 00:24:10.037
  • Now, mind you, I'dalready been on TBN
  • 00:24:10.037 --> 00:24:12.473
  • promoting a book that I'dwritten about overcoming cancer.
  • 00:24:12.473 --> 00:24:15.276
  • I was the guy who helpedpeople with cancer,
  • 00:24:15.276 --> 00:24:17.845
  • helped people withtheir health problems.
  • 00:24:17.845 --> 00:24:19.847
  • And I was diagnosed with cancer.
  • 00:24:19.847 --> 00:24:22.750
  • And the story, it's akind of a long story,
  • 00:24:22.750 --> 00:24:25.920
  • and I'm going towrite a book one day
  • 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.289
  • called To Hell With Cancer
  • 00:24:28.289 --> 00:24:30.391
  • because the Lord has givenme this powerful message.
  • 00:24:30.391 --> 00:24:33.327
  • It's not time yet.
  • 00:24:33.327 --> 00:24:34.762
  • Even 12 years later, it's stillnot time, but it's coming.
  • 00:24:34.762 --> 00:24:36.697
  • We've talked about this.
  • 00:24:36.697 --> 00:24:38.465
  • And so I get this procedure.
  • 00:24:38.465 --> 00:24:42.069
  • I have cancer, which isjust mind-boggling to me,
  • 00:24:42.069 --> 00:24:46.140
  • but it didn't just endwith, "We removed it."
  • 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:48.375
  • It's, "You have toget follow-up tests."
  • 00:24:48.375 --> 00:24:50.444
  • And so the story goeson where I was diagnosed
  • 00:24:50.444 --> 00:24:54.048
  • with metastatic cancer, andnot just metastatic cancer.
  • 00:24:55.516 --> 00:24:57.384
  • The doctor wholearned what I did
  • 00:24:57.384 --> 00:24:59.954
  • and knew that I was a believer
  • 00:24:59.954 --> 00:25:01.889
  • in supernaturaland natural health,
  • 00:25:01.889 --> 00:25:04.391
  • said, in front of my wifeand I, to make a point.
  • 00:25:04.391 --> 00:25:08.696
  • "Don't (blank)around with this."
  • 00:25:08.696 --> 00:25:11.765
  • They don't bleepanything out on TBN,
  • 00:25:11.765 --> 00:25:13.467
  • so I better not reallysay it, nor would I.
  • 00:25:13.467 --> 00:25:15.502
  • (Laurie laughs)
  • 00:25:15.502 --> 00:25:16.704
  • He said, "If youdon't get treatment,"
  • 00:25:16.704 --> 00:25:19.173
  • and that was chemo,surgery, possible radiation,
  • 00:25:19.173 --> 00:25:22.343
  • "there is a 100 percent chanceyou'll be dead in 90 days."
  • 00:25:22.343 --> 00:25:26.480
  • Now we hear abouthorrible prognoses,
  • 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.049
  • like you have a 50percent chance of dying
  • 00:25:29.049 --> 00:25:31.552
  • or you could, you know,not live 10 years,
  • 00:25:31.552 --> 00:25:36.323
  • but 100 percent chance?
  • 00:25:36.323 --> 00:25:38.826
  • And I'm just, (sighs)mind boggled at this.
  • 00:25:38.826 --> 00:25:43.731
  • But I got home fromthat appointment,
  • 00:25:43.731 --> 00:25:46.800
  • and I said, God'sgoing to heal me.
  • 00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:48.902
  • And I remember calling oneof my collaborating writers
  • 00:25:48.902 --> 00:25:51.572
  • and I said, "Turn thetape recorder on."
  • 00:25:51.572 --> 00:25:53.574
  • There were taperecorders back then.
  • 00:25:53.574 --> 00:25:55.275
  • And I spoke a message of faith
  • 00:25:55.275 --> 00:25:58.979
  • in a prognosis ofterminal cancer.
  • 00:25:58.979 --> 00:26:02.116
  • And I knew that theLord had given me
  • 00:26:02.116 --> 00:26:04.885
  • the sort of freedomto go 40 days
  • 00:26:04.885 --> 00:26:09.590
  • on a health and wellnessprogram, body, mind and spirit,
  • 00:26:09.590 --> 00:26:13.293
  • and I even told my wifeand I told this doctor
  • 00:26:13.293 --> 00:26:16.163
  • if in 40 days, I'm notcancer-free, I'll do something,
  • 00:26:16.163 --> 00:26:20.601
  • but I'm not gonna makenatural health an idol.
  • 00:26:20.601 --> 00:26:22.536
  • If I need to do somekind of therapy,
  • 00:26:22.536 --> 00:26:24.638
  • I'll do whatever I have to do.
  • 00:26:24.638 --> 00:26:25.839
  • We had just adoptedtwo children.
  • 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.508
  • I was in the midstof a book launch
  • 00:26:27.508 --> 00:26:30.511
  • and who cares aboutthat at this point.
  • 00:26:30.511 --> 00:26:32.446
  • TV program, I was a CEO
  • 00:26:32.446 --> 00:26:35.082
  • of one of the fastestgrowing companies in America.
  • 00:26:35.082 --> 00:26:38.419
  • Oh, and it was anutritional company.
  • 00:26:38.419 --> 00:26:39.586
  • And I'm teaching peoplehow to stay well.
  • 00:26:39.586 --> 00:26:42.656
  • And in fact, I went to aphysician at Harvard Medical,
  • 00:26:42.656 --> 00:26:46.760
  • most esteemed institutionin America if not the world.
  • 00:26:46.760 --> 00:26:50.431
  • And I asked, "So you wantme to go through chemo
  • 00:26:50.431 --> 00:26:54.668
  • "and this surgery.
  • 00:26:54.668 --> 00:26:56.103
  • "Is it more mild chemo?
  • 00:26:56.103 --> 00:26:58.272
  • "What are the side effect?
  • 00:26:58.272 --> 00:26:59.506
  • "'Cause I'm veryhealth-conscious."
  • 00:26:59.506 --> 00:27:01.041
  • And he's like, "Yeah,I know who you are.
  • 00:27:01.041 --> 00:27:02.876
  • "You write those health books.
  • 00:27:02.876 --> 00:27:04.411
  • "I wonder what yourreaders would think now."
  • 00:27:04.411 --> 00:27:07.214
  • Like that's whatthe doctor tells me.
  • 00:27:07.214 --> 00:27:08.749
  • - Wow.
  • 00:27:08.749 --> 00:27:10.350
  • - I get a blood test there.
  • 00:27:10.350 --> 00:27:11.285
  • The results come back worse
  • 00:27:11.285 --> 00:27:13.053
  • and my wife and I, we're hugging
  • 00:27:13.053 --> 00:27:15.189
  • and I look at her and I say,
  • 00:27:15.189 --> 00:27:16.523
  • "We're not ever comingback here again."
  • 00:27:16.523 --> 00:27:18.525
  • Like, I don't care ifthis guy wrote the book
  • 00:27:18.525 --> 00:27:20.994
  • on the cancer that Iwas diagnosed with.
  • 00:27:20.994 --> 00:27:23.297
  • And I knew, for those 40 days,
  • 00:27:23.297 --> 00:27:26.433
  • that God was going to heal me
  • 00:27:26.433 --> 00:27:29.036
  • and I lived it and spoke it.
  • 00:27:29.036 --> 00:27:30.571
  • - Let me just interject.
  • 00:27:30.571 --> 00:27:31.772
  • And this is literally just after
  • 00:27:31.772 --> 00:27:34.875
  • God put that Joseph kindof dream in your heart.
  • 00:27:34.875 --> 00:27:38.846
  • - Six weeks later, six weeks!
  • 00:27:38.846 --> 00:27:40.547
  • - So you know what I thought of?
  • 00:27:40.547 --> 00:27:42.649
  • This book is themanual for even,
  • 00:27:44.084 --> 00:27:49.089
  • think of Dr. Charles Blake.
  • 00:27:49.957 --> 00:27:52.259
  • Charles Blake, I producedBishop Charles Blake's TV show
  • 00:27:53.660 --> 00:27:56.797
  • for a long time.
  • 00:27:56.797 --> 00:27:58.565
  • He had a dream to help Africa
  • 00:28:00.100 --> 00:28:03.837
  • and he was on one of hisscouting trips to Africa
  • 00:28:03.837 --> 00:28:08.642
  • when he's flyingback from Africa,
  • 00:28:08.642 --> 00:28:11.712
  • just with the dream
  • 00:28:11.712 --> 00:28:13.013
  • in his heart.- On the Joseph mission.
  • 00:28:13.013 --> 00:28:15.415
  • - Yeah, I mean- I hear he called it
  • 00:28:15.415 --> 00:28:16.884
  • - Yeah, he calledit basically, he,
  • 00:28:16.884 --> 00:28:20.187
  • the pitch for whathe was doing is
  • 00:28:20.187 --> 00:28:23.056
  • the African American communityin America was Joseph
  • 00:28:23.056 --> 00:28:27.828
  • because they had been.
  • 00:28:27.828 --> 00:28:29.730
  • - Raised in a prosperousnation it's time for them
  • 00:28:31.165 --> 00:28:33.433
  • to feed their brothers.
  • 00:28:33.433 --> 00:28:34.868
  • I mean, that was kind ofBishop Charles Blake's vision
  • 00:28:34.868 --> 00:28:37.871
  • at the time and Iwas going to be doing
  • 00:28:37.871 --> 00:28:39.640
  • all the television for him.
  • 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:41.508
  • And so he had flownover for a scouting trip
  • 00:28:41.508 --> 00:28:44.344
  • and on the way back in themiddle of the Atlantic Ocean
  • 00:28:44.344 --> 00:28:47.447
  • on a 747, the whole747 fills with smoke.
  • 00:28:47.447 --> 00:28:51.819
  • - He says, I see fire coming up.
  • 00:28:51.819 --> 00:28:53.253
  • - Guys, come out of the,come out of the cockpit,
  • 00:28:53.253 --> 00:28:56.990
  • screw up panels in themiddle of the floor
  • 00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.993
  • and people disappearunder the floor
  • 00:28:59.993 --> 00:29:02.262
  • and smoke bellowing upand he thought, Lord--
  • 00:29:02.262 --> 00:29:04.631
  • - What is it? (laughs)- What in the world?
  • 00:29:04.631 --> 00:29:07.234
  • And, he said, I wouldhave never called you.
  • 00:29:07.234 --> 00:29:10.704
  • And I would have never putthe dream in your heart
  • 00:29:10.704 --> 00:29:13.607
  • to have it end here.
  • 00:29:13.607 --> 00:29:15.976
  • He relaxed hit hisbutton reclined back,
  • 00:29:15.976 --> 00:29:20.347
  • and the fire got put outand they landed on time
  • 00:29:20.347 --> 00:29:24.484
  • in Atlanta, Georgia
  • 00:29:24.484 --> 00:29:26.987
  • and the idea that God has adream stirring in our audience.
  • 00:29:26.987 --> 00:29:31.892
  • And then the floor dropsout from underneath you,
  • 00:29:35.128 --> 00:29:38.699
  • is what you lived.
  • 00:29:38.699 --> 00:29:41.001
  • - Absolutely--- That's what happened.
  • 00:29:41.001 --> 00:29:42.469
  • - And it continued it,
  • 00:29:42.469 --> 00:29:43.971
  • and I'm not going to giveaway everything in the book,
  • 00:29:43.971 --> 00:29:46.440
  • but the Lord healedme from cancer.
  • 00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:50.644
  • And I did exactly whatthe Lord told me to do.
  • 00:29:50.644 --> 00:29:53.847
  • I (mumbles) sold everything.
  • 00:29:53.847 --> 00:29:56.583
  • I moved to a smalltown in Missouri,
  • 00:29:56.583 --> 00:29:59.853
  • we bought a farm andwe began to prepare
  • 00:29:59.853 --> 00:30:02.823
  • for what God called usin and it was interesting
  • 00:30:02.823 --> 00:30:04.791
  • because the people aroundus were sort of applauding,
  • 00:30:04.791 --> 00:30:07.694
  • like you're leaving PalmBeach Gardens, Florida.
  • 00:30:07.694 --> 00:30:09.496
  • You all visited me in my home.
  • 00:30:09.496 --> 00:30:10.831
  • - [Laurie] Mhm
  • 00:30:10.831 --> 00:30:12.332
  • - I remember Matt, youhad that poison ivy thing.
  • 00:30:12.332 --> 00:30:13.500
  • - [Laurie] (laughs)
  • 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:14.801
  • - I'll never forgetthat, but we had a,
  • 00:30:14.801 --> 00:30:16.236
  • we were living theChristian American Dream,
  • 00:30:16.236 --> 00:30:18.138
  • nice house in Sunny,South Florida.
  • 00:30:18.138 --> 00:30:20.641
  • I was on Christian Television.
  • 00:30:20.641 --> 00:30:22.209
  • I was a CEO of an (mumbles)500 fastest growing company.
  • 00:30:22.209 --> 00:30:26.847
  • And the Lord said,you're leaving here.
  • 00:30:26.847 --> 00:30:29.182
  • I lived there for 30some years, I loved it.
  • 00:30:29.182 --> 00:30:31.385
  • And we moved to a town of200 in Southern Missouri
  • 00:30:31.385 --> 00:30:35.022
  • and we began to learn how toraise and grow our own food,
  • 00:30:35.022 --> 00:30:39.893
  • just in preparation for whatthe Lord was going to do.
  • 00:30:39.893 --> 00:30:42.562
  • And Lord healed me from cancers,I thought the pit was over,
  • 00:30:42.562 --> 00:30:46.066
  • crohn's diseasebit, the cancer bit.
  • 00:30:46.066 --> 00:30:47.935
  • So I go to Missouri andeverything there goes wrong.
  • 00:30:47.935 --> 00:30:51.772
  • And I list all ofthis to the point,
  • 00:30:51.772 --> 00:30:54.341
  • my wife had a separate dream,we talk about that in here.
  • 00:30:54.341 --> 00:30:57.444
  • Her dream is to be themother of the motherless.
  • 00:30:57.444 --> 00:31:00.847
  • So to take in childrenfirst into our own home,
  • 00:31:00.847 --> 00:31:04.851
  • but then have children'shomes around the world.
  • 00:31:04.851 --> 00:31:06.787
  • So my dream is to feed theworld, her dream is to parent
  • 00:31:06.787 --> 00:31:09.589
  • and mother, the world, andwe go there and raise animals
  • 00:31:09.589 --> 00:31:14.594
  • and they die.
  • 00:31:15.462 --> 00:31:17.030
  • We have the opportunity tobring kids into our home,
  • 00:31:17.030 --> 00:31:20.267
  • just supernaturally,someone posts online,
  • 00:31:20.267 --> 00:31:23.770
  • the Lord told me you'resupposed to adopt this baby
  • 00:31:25.205 --> 00:31:29.209
  • that I have custody ofand brings her to our farm
  • 00:31:29.209 --> 00:31:32.479
  • with her brother and sister.
  • 00:31:32.479 --> 00:31:34.381
  • We fall in lovewith three children
  • 00:31:34.381 --> 00:31:36.216
  • that are calling us mum and dad
  • 00:31:36.216 --> 00:31:38.218
  • and then they'retaken away from us.
  • 00:31:38.218 --> 00:31:39.619
  • - My goodness
  • 00:31:39.619 --> 00:31:41.154
  • - And I'm literally with my,daughter is in the audience
  • 00:31:41.154 --> 00:31:43.790
  • and my now 16 year olddaughter who was 10,
  • 00:31:43.790 --> 00:31:48.795
  • we were very close, justover a couple of weeks
  • 00:31:49.963 --> 00:31:51.631
  • and she was callingus mom and dad
  • 00:31:51.631 --> 00:31:53.900
  • and we were so excited,
  • 00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:55.369
  • even though certain thingswe're struggling with,
  • 00:31:55.369 --> 00:31:57.104
  • God was fulfilling some things
  • 00:31:57.104 --> 00:31:58.739
  • and I knew somethingwas going wrong
  • 00:31:58.739 --> 00:32:02.142
  • and I felt like she wasgoing to be taken away
  • 00:32:02.142 --> 00:32:04.011
  • and I went and sneaked mycell phone number in a book
  • 00:32:04.011 --> 00:32:08.515
  • that she had at ourlittle homeschool
  • 00:32:08.515 --> 00:32:10.784
  • and I said, Emma, if youever need me, call me.
  • 00:32:10.784 --> 00:32:15.188
  • And she looked up atme and she said, dad,
  • 00:32:15.188 --> 00:32:17.791
  • when I'm 18, canI come find you?
  • 00:32:17.791 --> 00:32:21.061
  • I mean, this is, and thenI had a, a one year old,
  • 00:32:21.061 --> 00:32:24.064
  • her name's Isabella
  • 00:32:24.064 --> 00:32:25.632
  • and I used to sing the StevenCurtis Chapman Cinderella song
  • 00:32:25.632 --> 00:32:28.001
  • to her to put her to sleep.
  • 00:32:28.001 --> 00:32:29.536
  • I will dance with Isabellawhile she's here in my arms
  • 00:32:29.536 --> 00:32:31.938
  • and I was able tosay goodbye to her
  • 00:32:31.938 --> 00:32:34.207
  • for what I thought was thelast time and I'm a sucker
  • 00:32:34.207 --> 00:32:37.344
  • for emotional thingsso I'm singing,
  • 00:32:37.344 --> 00:32:39.513
  • I will dance with Isabellalike, and I'm crying
  • 00:32:39.513 --> 00:32:42.282
  • because the word say, insome day soon the clock will
  • 00:32:42.282 --> 00:32:46.219
  • strike midnightand she'll be gone
  • 00:32:46.219 --> 00:32:47.988
  • and I'm going through this.
  • 00:32:47.988 --> 00:32:49.289
  • And I'm not even halfway done.
  • 00:32:49.289 --> 00:32:51.658
  • The Lord gave me a desireafter I was healed from cancer
  • 00:32:51.658 --> 00:32:55.028
  • to help people with cancer.
  • 00:32:55.028 --> 00:32:56.496
  • And a pastor from South Floridawas begging me to help him.
  • 00:32:56.496 --> 00:33:01.334
  • And I was about to moveto Missouri and I just,
  • 00:33:01.334 --> 00:33:04.471
  • I wasn't feeling thisspecific protocol
  • 00:33:04.471 --> 00:33:08.108
  • and I kind of dodgedthe meetings, just busy.
  • 00:33:08.108 --> 00:33:11.011
  • And then we ended upmeeting and I said,
  • 00:33:11.011 --> 00:33:13.046
  • not only will I helpyou, you can move out
  • 00:33:13.046 --> 00:33:14.681
  • to Missouri with us.
  • 00:33:14.681 --> 00:33:16.149
  • And we put him on a programand he's getting better
  • 00:33:16.149 --> 00:33:19.086
  • and has amazing results.
  • 00:33:19.086 --> 00:33:20.854
  • And then fastforward a few weeks,
  • 00:33:20.854 --> 00:33:22.989
  • I'm giving CPR to him ashe's dying in my arms.
  • 00:33:22.989 --> 00:33:26.359
  • Someone who, I'm not being,this isn't a job for me,
  • 00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:30.097
  • is a ministry, I'mhelping someone who
  • 00:33:30.097 --> 00:33:33.667
  • medicine couldn't help.
  • 00:33:34.601 --> 00:33:36.036
  • They'd said, go get your affairsin order, he got results.
  • 00:33:36.036 --> 00:33:38.972
  • He's (mumbles) the Lord andwhat makes matters worse,
  • 00:33:38.972 --> 00:33:42.943
  • he wasn't going to have a child.
  • 00:33:42.943 --> 00:33:45.345
  • He was a little older,40, and he and his wife
  • 00:33:45.345 --> 00:33:49.149
  • because of his cancer diagnosis,
  • 00:33:49.149 --> 00:33:50.584
  • weren't going to have a child,
  • 00:33:50.584 --> 00:33:52.119
  • but he ended up getting somuch better they conceived
  • 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.555
  • and, fast forward,he's dying in my arms,
  • 00:33:55.555 --> 00:33:59.860
  • his child four days isdue four days from now
  • 00:33:59.860 --> 00:34:03.663
  • and his last words, he putshis hand on his wife's stomach
  • 00:34:03.663 --> 00:34:08.168
  • and says, I want totouch my baby and he's,
  • 00:34:08.168 --> 00:34:10.637
  • and I'm pulling his ringoff and watching him die
  • 00:34:10.637 --> 00:34:13.974
  • in my arms, I'm supposedto be helping him.
  • 00:34:13.974 --> 00:34:15.909
  • And so I followed Godto, I sold everything,
  • 00:34:15.909 --> 00:34:20.647
  • I moved to I call it themiddle of everywhere,
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  • - [Laurie] (laughs)
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  • - We open our hometo children to adopt,
  • 00:34:24.918 --> 00:34:27.154
  • we try to help someone who'ssick, which is our vision.
  • 00:34:27.154 --> 00:34:30.790
  • And everything goes wrongand everything fails
  • 00:34:30.790 --> 00:34:34.194
  • and we're literallyleft with nothing.
  • 00:34:34.194 --> 00:34:37.297
  • I remember thinkingI wanna close my eyes
  • 00:34:37.297 --> 00:34:40.400
  • and I know I'm going to bearound five months from now,
  • 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.670
  • but I just wish I could get,I don't wanna go through
  • 00:34:43.670 --> 00:34:45.839
  • what I have to go through.
  • 00:34:45.839 --> 00:34:47.507
  • Letting so many people down,I went from being the CEO
  • 00:34:47.507 --> 00:34:50.810
  • of a fortune 500 companythat owing more money
  • 00:34:50.810 --> 00:34:53.079
  • than I could ever pay back ina lifetime, in 10 lifetimes.
  • 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:56.983
  • And I tell you this,not because you've been
  • 00:34:56.983 --> 00:34:59.553
  • in my same position or BishopCharles Blake's position,
  • 00:34:59.553 --> 00:35:02.322
  • but what if youjust lost your job?
  • 00:35:02.322 --> 00:35:05.091
  • What if you've losta child, a spouse?
  • 00:35:05.091 --> 00:35:08.061
  • What if you're somebodywho wanted to be an athlete
  • 00:35:08.061 --> 00:35:11.097
  • or an entertainer, andyou've lost your opportunity
  • 00:35:11.097 --> 00:35:13.466
  • because we're ina global pandemic
  • 00:35:13.466 --> 00:35:15.435
  • or what if yourrestaurant was burned down
  • 00:35:15.435 --> 00:35:19.306
  • because of all the unrestthat's going on in America,
  • 00:35:19.306 --> 00:35:22.075
  • you have a God given dream.
  • 00:35:22.075 --> 00:35:23.410
  • And if you're someonesitting in a church
  • 00:35:23.410 --> 00:35:25.212
  • or watching church online,cause we can't go to church,
  • 00:35:25.212 --> 00:35:28.815
  • you need "The Joseph Blessing".
  • 00:35:28.815 --> 00:35:30.250
  • It will encourage you toremember your God given dream,
  • 00:35:30.250 --> 00:35:34.054
  • but also to understandthe steps to get there.
  • 00:35:34.054 --> 00:35:37.457
  • Matt and Laurie, what I'velearned is number one,
  • 00:35:37.457 --> 00:35:40.193
  • we are all God's favorite.
  • 00:35:40.193 --> 00:35:41.628
  • Like Joseph was hisfather's favorite,
  • 00:35:41.628 --> 00:35:43.363
  • you're your father's favorite.
  • 00:35:43.363 --> 00:35:45.131
  • And I go through thesteps, one of which is
  • 00:35:45.131 --> 00:35:47.734
  • if your God given dreamisn't challenged every day
  • 00:35:47.734 --> 00:35:52.539
  • and if you don't wantto quit every other day,
  • 00:35:52.539 --> 00:35:54.708
  • that's not a God given dream.
  • 00:35:54.708 --> 00:35:56.209
  • If it's not difficult,grueling, I often said that
  • 00:35:56.209 --> 00:35:59.512
  • you can't have a miraclewithout a horrific situation.
  • 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.684
  • You can't have aresurrection without a death.
  • 00:36:04.684 --> 00:36:06.820
  • And I'm not talking aboutlike, Oh, it's a resurrection
  • 00:36:06.820 --> 00:36:10.156
  • someone died, no likea grueling stinking,
  • 00:36:10.156 --> 00:36:12.792
  • four days oldLazarus, don't open,
  • 00:36:12.792 --> 00:36:15.795
  • he's deteriorated like death.
  • 00:36:15.795 --> 00:36:19.399
  • You can't have a resurrectionwithout having a death.
  • 00:36:19.399 --> 00:36:22.335
  • I can tell you our friendNolan who died in my arms,
  • 00:36:22.335 --> 00:36:25.872
  • we were believingfor resurrection.
  • 00:36:25.872 --> 00:36:27.607
  • I remember we had thesecabins on our property
  • 00:36:27.607 --> 00:36:30.243
  • and Nikki was in like 30yards away banging on the door
  • 00:36:30.243 --> 00:36:35.215
  • from the insidescreaming Jesus, Jesus.
  • 00:36:36.283 --> 00:36:38.385
  • I mean, this waswhat we prayed for.
  • 00:36:38.385 --> 00:36:40.253
  • I believe that everybody who'swatching every connect group,
  • 00:36:41.721 --> 00:36:46.326
  • cell group, Biblestudy, every church,
  • 00:36:46.326 --> 00:36:48.295
  • this is somethingthat can help pastors
  • 00:36:48.295 --> 00:36:51.464
  • who have seen their churchattendance and giving dwindle
  • 00:36:51.464 --> 00:36:55.101
  • because of thepandemic we're in.
  • 00:36:55.101 --> 00:36:57.270
  • I love that you all wantedto bring this message
  • 00:36:57.270 --> 00:37:00.173
  • to light today because it'snever been more necessary
  • 00:37:00.173 --> 00:37:02.475
  • cause guess what?
  • 00:37:02.475 --> 00:37:03.743
  • You have lost your job,your child, your family,
  • 00:37:03.743 --> 00:37:08.615
  • your dream of being something,an athlete, an entertainer,
  • 00:37:10.050 --> 00:37:13.653
  • it's not dead, it'svery much alive.
  • 00:37:13.653 --> 00:37:16.222
  • And in fact, what you're goingthrough is more testament
  • 00:37:16.222 --> 00:37:20.827
  • to the fact that Godwill deliver you,
  • 00:37:20.827 --> 00:37:23.530
  • take you from the prison,maybe not to the palace,
  • 00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.966
  • maybe to somethinggreater, to be in position
  • 00:37:26.966 --> 00:37:30.437
  • to see the world be saved.
  • 00:37:30.437 --> 00:37:32.172
  • Then, and by the way,the Lord has done
  • 00:37:32.172 --> 00:37:34.741
  • so many amazingthings in my life.
  • 00:37:34.741 --> 00:37:36.609
  • The book detailsonly some of it,
  • 00:37:36.609 --> 00:37:38.578
  • because I wrote this inthe midst of my challenges,
  • 00:37:38.578 --> 00:37:41.214
  • the Lord has done so much for me
  • 00:37:41.214 --> 00:37:42.916
  • and in fact, Matt, youand Laurie know this
  • 00:37:42.916 --> 00:37:45.652
  • and most people onthe planet don't.
  • 00:37:45.652 --> 00:37:47.487
  • The Lord has givenme some revelation
  • 00:37:47.487 --> 00:37:49.889
  • that is so much greater than Ihad ever had times a thousand
  • 00:37:49.889 --> 00:37:53.293
  • we've been around theworld, looking for it,
  • 00:37:53.293 --> 00:37:56.129
  • sort of see it come to lifeso, what the Lord has told me,
  • 00:37:56.129 --> 00:38:01.134
  • he's in the process of doing,I'm not in that position
  • 00:38:02.502 --> 00:38:05.338
  • to feed and save the world.
  • 00:38:05.338 --> 00:38:07.407
  • But I believe as much as I feel
  • 00:38:07.407 --> 00:38:10.009
  • this chair's gonna hold meup, that it's going to happen.
  • 00:38:10.009 --> 00:38:12.712
  • And I want you tofeel the same way.
  • 00:38:12.712 --> 00:38:14.414
  • And what a blessingto partner with TBN,
  • 00:38:14.414 --> 00:38:17.250
  • a ministry that I'vebeen counting on
  • 00:38:17.250 --> 00:38:20.387
  • to help us deal with thepandemic and the racial unrest
  • 00:38:20.387 --> 00:38:25.392
  • that we've been facingto share the gospel.
  • 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.028
  • And when people are home anddon't have a church to go to,
  • 00:38:29.028 --> 00:38:31.631
  • they get to go to churchand hear great men
  • 00:38:31.631 --> 00:38:35.068
  • and women of God, JentezenFranklin, Joel Osteen,
  • 00:38:35.068 --> 00:38:37.570
  • Joyce Meyer, T.D.Jakes, all of that.
  • 00:38:37.570 --> 00:38:39.839
  • And you have a chance to supportTBN and learn how God wants
  • 00:38:39.839 --> 00:38:44.844
  • to help you remember and thenfulfill the God given dream.
  • 00:38:46.279 --> 00:38:49.682
  • - In recent months, we'veexperienced chaos and disruption
  • 00:38:49.682 --> 00:38:52.986
  • that has seemed to touchevery area of our lives.
  • 00:38:52.986 --> 00:38:55.755
  • The health of ourbodies and the peace
  • 00:38:55.755 --> 00:38:57.524
  • of our souls are under attack.
  • 00:38:57.524 --> 00:38:59.659
  • So it's not surprisingthat for many believers,
  • 00:38:59.659 --> 00:39:02.195
  • it feels like their hopes anddreams have been interrupted,
  • 00:39:02.195 --> 00:39:05.398
  • put on hold or maybeeven destroyed.
  • 00:39:05.398 --> 00:39:09.002
  • But TBN wants tooffer you a different,
  • 00:39:09.002 --> 00:39:11.471
  • more promising perspective.
  • 00:39:11.471 --> 00:39:13.640
  • That's why this month'sspecial thank you for any gift
  • 00:39:13.640 --> 00:39:16.509
  • of support to TBN, is JordanRubin's remarkable book,
  • 00:39:16.509 --> 00:39:20.547
  • "The Joseph Blessing".
  • 00:39:20.547 --> 00:39:22.582
  • Matt and Laurie Crouch, believeit will help you understand
  • 00:39:22.582 --> 00:39:25.151
  • the biblical keys torising above adversity
  • 00:39:25.151 --> 00:39:28.021
  • and seeing your setbackstransformed into set ups
  • 00:39:28.021 --> 00:39:32.025
  • for God's blessings.
  • 00:39:32.025 --> 00:39:34.127
  • - I believe that Godhas given you a dream
  • 00:39:34.127 --> 00:39:36.563
  • that can change the world, butin order to see God's dream
  • 00:39:36.563 --> 00:39:41.134
  • in your life come to pass,
  • 00:39:41.134 --> 00:39:42.735
  • you've got to gothrough challenges.
  • 00:39:42.735 --> 00:39:44.904
  • - Equally relevant isPriscilla Shirer's book,
  • 00:39:44.904 --> 00:39:47.307
  • "Life Interrupted:Navigating the Unexpected.
  • 00:39:47.307 --> 00:39:51.044
  • Indeed one oftoday's most vibrant
  • 00:39:51.044 --> 00:39:52.912
  • and relevant Bible teachers,
  • 00:39:52.912 --> 00:39:54.614
  • brings you timely truth abouthow to successfully navigate
  • 00:39:54.614 --> 00:39:58.284
  • new seasons of life.
  • 00:39:58.284 --> 00:40:00.453
  • - He calls our names andour hearts even more,
  • 00:40:00.453 --> 00:40:02.856
  • not just because thegospel is powerful,
  • 00:40:02.856 --> 00:40:05.258
  • but because it's possible,he knows me, he knows you.
  • 00:40:05.258 --> 00:40:09.896
  • - [Blynda] Both books,"The Joseph Blessing"
  • 00:40:09.896 --> 00:40:12.165
  • and "Life Interrupted",are yours in gratitude
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  • for your gift of $35 or more
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  • to TBN right now.
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  • Your support is importantbecause our world is
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  • in desperate need ofgood news right now.
  • 00:40:22.208 --> 00:40:25.545
  • - Thank you for believingin this ministry.
  • 00:40:25.545 --> 00:40:28.014
  • It's because ofyou, this word gets
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  • to go around the wholewide world, we love you.
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  • - [Blynda] We hope you'llpartner with us today
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  • to be a part of all thewonderful things TBN is doing
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  • around the world.
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  • Please call, writeor go online today.
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  • And remember your dreamsare important to God.
  • 00:40:42.595 --> 00:40:46.733
  • (whooshing logo sound)
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  • - This book is availableright now with the number
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  • that's on the screen.
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  • - When I think of whatyou're talking about,
  • 00:40:52.906 --> 00:40:56.175
  • Joseph Prince comes to mind.
  • 00:40:56.175 --> 00:40:57.844
  • He talks about aJoseph generation thatwe will understand
  • 00:40:57.844 --> 00:41:02.849
  • to hang on to our dreamsin face of anything.
  • 00:41:04.317 --> 00:41:08.454
  • When I think about this kindof concept, I can't help,
  • 00:41:08.454 --> 00:41:12.959
  • but think of my mom and dad.
  • 00:41:12.959 --> 00:41:15.094
  • They basically had adream in their heart
  • 00:41:17.030 --> 00:41:22.001
  • to is it possible that God wouldgive us our own TV station?
  • 00:41:23.436 --> 00:41:27.073
  • They had worked for severaldifferent TV stations
  • 00:41:28.474 --> 00:41:30.944
  • and had a dream in their heart.
  • 00:41:30.944 --> 00:41:33.980
  • And just when TBNbasically gets going,
  • 00:41:33.980 --> 00:41:38.985
  • there was the earlyyears of so much struggle
  • 00:41:40.353 --> 00:41:43.756
  • and so much heart ache.
  • 00:41:43.756 --> 00:41:45.491
  • But just when you think maybethe story was getting better
  • 00:41:45.491 --> 00:41:49.963
  • in the early 80s, when TBNowned as many TV stations
  • 00:41:49.963 --> 00:41:54.500
  • as the FCC wouldallow in those days
  • 00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:58.705
  • and we were alwaysbumping up right against
  • 00:41:58.705 --> 00:42:01.841
  • maximum ownershiplimits all the time.
  • 00:42:01.841 --> 00:42:04.911
  • TBN got sued by a groupthat claimed that there was,
  • 00:42:06.312 --> 00:42:11.250
  • an inconsistency in a publicfiling that we had made
  • 00:42:17.490 --> 00:42:21.661
  • to the FCC.
  • 00:42:21.661 --> 00:42:22.795
  • And it stemmed around theidea that you had to go
  • 00:42:24.263 --> 00:42:28.935
  • and ask local officialswhat the problems were
  • 00:42:31.170 --> 00:42:35.608
  • in your market.
  • 00:42:35.608 --> 00:42:37.243
  • And, it had to dowith my dad signing
  • 00:42:37.243 --> 00:42:42.248
  • a phone book size documentthat was prepared by staff
  • 00:42:44.083 --> 00:42:49.088
  • that claimed everythingin there was original
  • 00:42:50.256 --> 00:42:52.158
  • and some employee hadused an old ascertainment
  • 00:42:52.158 --> 00:42:55.895
  • and shoved in so they didn'thave so much work to do.
  • 00:42:55.895 --> 00:42:58.464
  • Something along theline, it was that,
  • 00:42:58.464 --> 00:43:01.167
  • in the grand scheme of things,
  • 00:43:01.167 --> 00:43:02.969
  • it felt like a petty situation,
  • 00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:04.971
  • but it was, it wassignificant at the time.
  • 00:43:04.971 --> 00:43:09.575
  • My dad built TBN waking upalmost every day for nine years
  • 00:43:09.575 --> 00:43:14.580
  • with a gnawing in his gutthat he had made a mistake.
  • 00:43:22.088 --> 00:43:27.093
  • And that (mumbles)
  • 00:43:28.928 --> 00:43:29.962
  • - This was gonna be apunishment or something
  • 00:43:31.597 --> 00:43:35.501
  • that he had to go through.
  • 00:43:35.501 --> 00:43:37.603
  • TBN is a global network, wehave 30 something networks
  • 00:43:37.603 --> 00:43:42.608
  • that we are partneredwith around the world.
  • 00:43:44.944 --> 00:43:47.780
  • We have TV stations andoffices all over the world,
  • 00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:51.117
  • and my dad at theend of his life,
  • 00:43:51.117 --> 00:43:55.455
  • when I got a chance to do oneof the very last interviews,
  • 00:43:55.455 --> 00:43:58.791
  • I said to him Dad,
  • 00:43:58.791 --> 00:44:00.259
  • what's the one wordthat you think about
  • 00:44:00.259 --> 00:44:03.162
  • when you look backover all these years?
  • 00:44:03.162 --> 00:44:05.164
  • Because most people tuninginto that broadcast,
  • 00:44:05.164 --> 00:44:08.468
  • like this broadcast, would say,
  • 00:44:08.468 --> 00:44:11.104
  • Jordan Rubin is thetop of his field.
  • 00:44:11.104 --> 00:44:14.407
  • If you were in the health world,
  • 00:44:14.407 --> 00:44:17.310
  • you're one of the topguys in that whole thing.
  • 00:44:17.310 --> 00:44:20.513
  • Well, when somebodywas looking at my dad,
  • 00:44:20.513 --> 00:44:23.616
  • if your thing was Christian TV,
  • 00:44:23.616 --> 00:44:25.451
  • he was one of the top guysand in the whole world,
  • 00:44:25.451 --> 00:44:28.221
  • and so most of us wouldlook at Paul crouch
  • 00:44:29.388 --> 00:44:31.724
  • and say he fulfilledhis dream he would,
  • 00:44:31.724 --> 00:44:35.161
  • and what does thatfeel like dad?
  • 00:44:35.161 --> 00:44:38.231
  • And he then paused for a second,
  • 00:44:38.231 --> 00:44:40.533
  • I was interviewinghim in a studio
  • 00:44:40.533 --> 00:44:42.502
  • about 100 yards from here,
  • 00:44:42.502 --> 00:44:44.170
  • here in Nashville.
  • 00:44:44.170 --> 00:44:45.972
  • And he just kinda bellowedout the word "challenge".
  • 00:44:45.972 --> 00:44:50.143
  • And if you start looking atwhat you're really saying over
  • 00:44:51.577 --> 00:44:55.047
  • this one hour broadcast
  • 00:44:55.047 --> 00:44:56.716
  • and what the life ofJoseph was trying,
  • 00:44:56.716 --> 00:44:59.519
  • that the dream thatGod puts in your heart
  • 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:04.290
  • doesn't mean you thentiptoe through the daisies.
  • 00:45:04.290 --> 00:45:08.861
  • It literally meansdeath sentencessometimes in your case,
  • 00:45:08.861 --> 00:45:13.032
  • and these horrible diagnosesand all this challenge
  • 00:45:13.032 --> 00:45:18.004
  • that gets thrownin front of you.
  • 00:45:18.971 --> 00:45:19.806
  • Just pick something,
  • 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.943
  • and most likely
  • 00:45:25.611 --> 00:45:28.681
  • we're talking about somethingthat you have been through,
  • 00:45:28.681 --> 00:45:31.450
  • false accusations, allsorts of crazy things
  • 00:45:32.652 --> 00:45:36.489
  • that come to people in thesimple pursuit of the dream.
  • 00:45:36.489 --> 00:45:41.394
  • But guess what,those that hang on
  • 00:45:41.394 --> 00:45:43.563
  • to those dreams willsee them fulfilled.
  • 00:45:43.563 --> 00:45:47.066
  • And what an amazing subject.
  • 00:45:47.066 --> 00:45:51.604
  • Everybody has adream In your heart.
  • 00:45:51.604 --> 00:45:55.007
  • Everyone has a dream.
  • 00:45:55.007 --> 00:45:56.409
  • My wife and I have adream in our heart,
  • 00:45:56.409 --> 00:45:59.478
  • we certainly have alot to say grace over.
  • 00:46:00.646 --> 00:46:02.982
  • But there are manythings that we've seen
  • 00:46:02.982 --> 00:46:05.918
  • in our life thathaven't happened yet.
  • 00:46:05.918 --> 00:46:08.354
  • I refer back to somethingLaurie saw as a daydreamer
  • 00:46:08.354 --> 00:46:12.959
  • who knows what to call themabout levels of production
  • 00:46:14.393 --> 00:46:18.164
  • and things that weare to be a part of
  • 00:46:18.164 --> 00:46:22.635
  • that we haven't seen yet Jordan,
  • 00:46:22.635 --> 00:46:24.871
  • we're hanging on to it.
  • 00:46:24.871 --> 00:46:26.205
  • - Yeah and I thinkwhat's so cool is
  • 00:46:26.205 --> 00:46:28.207
  • that a dream isn'talways for me,
  • 00:46:28.207 --> 00:46:31.410
  • it's to go on and be livedthrough generations from now.
  • 00:46:31.410 --> 00:46:36.215
  • Think of Joseph,(giggles)
  • 00:46:36.215 --> 00:46:39.819
  • he fed thatgeneration to survive
  • 00:46:39.819 --> 00:46:43.456
  • to live another day.
  • 00:46:43.456 --> 00:46:45.424
  • So we're probably here becauseof Joseph's great faith,
  • 00:46:45.424 --> 00:46:49.161
  • and it's standing in believing.
  • 00:46:49.161 --> 00:46:51.731
  • Once he was thrown in the pit,
  • 00:46:51.731 --> 00:46:54.267
  • then he's out thenhe's the slave
  • 00:46:54.267 --> 00:46:56.469
  • but then he gets Potiphar's
  • 00:46:56.469 --> 00:46:58.738
  • now he's living asPotiphars number one guy.
  • 00:46:58.738 --> 00:47:02.875
  • Now he probably thinks
  • 00:47:02.875 --> 00:47:05.244
  • I'm out of this I'm good- I'm good I'm out of this
  • 00:47:05.244 --> 00:47:07.513
  • - And then the falseaccusation, that's awful.
  • 00:47:07.513 --> 00:47:12.184
  • So give us your lastthoughts about this,
  • 00:47:12.184 --> 00:47:15.454
  • because this is greatand I think everybody
  • 00:47:15.454 --> 00:47:17.924
  • that does somethinggreat for God,
  • 00:47:17.924 --> 00:47:19.659
  • God always wantsthe glory for it.
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  • And that's what we're here,
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  • we're here to bring Godglory through his---
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  • - Thank God chooses thefoolish to confound the wise.
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  • And man that was ourtheme around here,
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  • that all we had inthe Crouch family
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  • was a dream to hold onto, to preach the message
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  • of grace and hopearound the world.
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  • And so, this book speaks to us.
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  • I have a dream in my heartthat I haven't seen fulfilled.
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  • You have a dream in your heart,
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  • our viewers do.
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  • Your final thoughts on thedreamer of all dreamers Joseph.
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  • - I wanna be very clear,
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  • this is not aboutlooking at the Crouch's
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  • and myself and saying,
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  • Oh, it's easy for youall to say your dream
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  • is to do even greater things
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  • and climb even greater mountains
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  • than you've climbed.
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  • But we had dreams whenwe were like this.
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  • All of us have had somebody say,
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  • you're not gonna mount to much,
  • 00:48:19.051 --> 00:48:20.453
  • you can never do thisyou have a disability.
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  • You have a disease ifyou're sitting there
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  • and dealing with cancer, ormaybe it's a death sentence
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  • or maybe it's a diseasethat would cause you
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  • to not be able to dancenot be able to sing
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  • not be able to function the way
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  • that you dream about.
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  • This books for you.
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  • If you're stuck, if you're low,
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  • if you have beenfalsely accused,
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  • as we've talked about,
  • 00:48:46.345 --> 00:48:47.713
  • if you've done everythingwith integrity,
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  • but have consistently seenit amount to very little.
  • 00:48:49.915 --> 00:48:54.920
  • The Joseph blessing thatGod's put in your heart
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  • can come alive,
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  • if you A understand more abouthow God works in this dream
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  • and B the steps to follow.
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  • And it's not exactlyformulaic, but boy,
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  • it made me feel really good,
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  • when somebodywants told me that.
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  • If you ever want todo something great,
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  • it's gonna be anything but easy.
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  • Wouldn't it be tough
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  • if someone said everythinggreat comes easy,
  • 00:49:20.646 --> 00:49:22.815
  • and then you're thinkingwell, it's not easy for me,
  • 00:49:22.815 --> 00:49:24.483
  • - why isn't everybodydoing it(laughs)
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  • - This isn't justabout my story.
  • 00:49:25.718 --> 00:49:27.153
  • I think almost every humanbeing who rises from the ashes,
  • 00:49:27.153 --> 00:49:31.023
  • from tragedy to triumph,from mess to messenger
  • 00:49:31.023 --> 00:49:34.794
  • sees themselves as a reflectionin the book of Joseph.
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  • Now not everyone who's watching
  • 00:49:38.164 --> 00:49:39.632
  • is gonna to be the numbertwo person in the government,
  • 00:49:39.632 --> 00:49:42.902
  • to supply food for everyone,
  • 00:49:42.902 --> 00:49:44.503
  • but all of you who are watching
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  • can fulfill your God givendream with the Joseph blessing.
  • 00:49:46.772 --> 00:49:50.709
  • And we have scripturein each chapter,
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  • we have specificprayers to pray,
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  • and as I said this is greatto go through as a church,
  • 00:49:55.081 --> 00:49:59.018
  • as a bible study, connectgroup, small group,
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  • I think this book waswell not as catchy
  • 00:50:03.522 --> 00:50:07.560
  • as some of the other populartitles "Think and Grow Rich",
  • 00:50:07.560 --> 00:50:10.129
  • that's a good one, right?
  • 00:50:10.129 --> 00:50:11.630
  • This is basically goingto show you that in order
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  • to see God's dream inyour life come to pass
  • 00:50:14.633 --> 00:50:17.903
  • you've got to gothrough challenges,
  • 00:50:17.903 --> 00:50:19.572
  • and I think the greatestof all was Abraham.
  • 00:50:19.572 --> 00:50:22.141
  • Abraham was givena dream by God,
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  • He didn't ask for it.
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  • He's Abraham, yes Lord.
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  • Count the sand on theseashore, the stars in the sky
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  • so show your descendants be.
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  • You know what?
  • 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:35.121
  • I'm gonna take a shortcutand birth Ishmael,
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  • my wife gave me thisgood suggestion.
  • 00:50:36.722 --> 00:50:38.791
  • Oh well, it's not gonna be him,
  • 00:50:38.791 --> 00:50:39.859
  • I have to send him away?
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  • Oh my Lord you did it.
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  • I'm 100 years oldand my wife's 90.
  • 00:50:42.628 --> 00:50:46.098
  • My book-- could you imagine
  • 00:50:46.098 --> 00:50:47.733
  • how much this man lovedIsaac not just for his sake,
  • 00:50:47.733 --> 00:50:51.403
  • but if Abraham ever told anyone,
  • 00:50:51.403 --> 00:50:53.305
  • I'm gonna be thefather of many nations,
  • 00:50:54.507 --> 00:50:57.009
  • and they did doubtedhim then he had Isaac.
  • 00:50:57.009 --> 00:50:59.245
  • But yet this dreamof his and Gods
  • 00:50:59.245 --> 00:51:02.414
  • was about to end like that.
  • 00:51:03.516 --> 00:51:05.484
  • Because God said, Abraham,
  • 00:51:05.484 --> 00:51:07.286
  • here I am Lord, Abraham said.
  • 00:51:07.286 --> 00:51:09.288
  • Go to that mountainand sacrifice your son.
  • 00:51:09.288 --> 00:51:12.224
  • We don't we see moviesand dramatization,
  • 00:51:12.224 --> 00:51:14.927
  • but that's a prettysmall part of Scripture.
  • 00:51:14.927 --> 00:51:17.563
  • And he goes up to the mountainand he lifts the knife,
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  • it wasn't like, one dayinto the three day journey
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  • you're good.
  • 00:51:26.272 --> 00:51:27.506
  • He was gonna do itand there are times
  • 00:51:27.506 --> 00:51:29.742
  • where we literally haveto sacrifice our dream.
  • 00:51:29.742 --> 00:51:33.312
  • Lay our Isaac downwe have no more money
  • 00:51:33.312 --> 00:51:37.750
  • we have to close the business,
  • 00:51:37.750 --> 00:51:40.219
  • there's people that areclosing their businesses today
  • 00:51:40.219 --> 00:51:42.221
  • and they're like we're done.
  • 00:51:42.221 --> 00:51:43.589
  • They're sad they'resacrificing their Isaac,
  • 00:51:43.589 --> 00:51:45.925
  • they're laying their Isaac down.
  • 00:51:45.925 --> 00:51:47.193
  • Today more than anytime in my life,
  • 00:51:47.193 --> 00:51:50.162
  • people's hopes anddreams are dashed.
  • 00:51:50.162 --> 00:51:52.298
  • If there's one thing
  • 00:51:52.298 --> 00:51:53.732
  • that I hope that Josephblessing can do it,
  • 00:51:53.732 --> 00:51:55.834
  • it is to revive the dreamsof the dreamers out there.
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  • The vision that Godput in your heart,
  • 00:51:59.772 --> 00:52:03.309
  • that you would remember it,
  • 00:52:03.309 --> 00:52:05.211
  • you would cherish itand you just go on
  • 00:52:05.211 --> 00:52:08.447
  • for another day, anotherweek, another month.
  • 00:52:08.447 --> 00:52:10.216
  • I promise you God is goingto fulfill that dream.
  • 00:52:10.216 --> 00:52:12.785
  • He's gonna fulfillthe dreams you've had,
  • 00:52:12.785 --> 00:52:15.187
  • and that I've had, butwe've got to persevere
  • 00:52:15.187 --> 00:52:17.623
  • and sometimes itjust helps to know
  • 00:52:17.623 --> 00:52:20.092
  • that people havewalked before us,
  • 00:52:20.092 --> 00:52:23.629
  • who have been in our shoes.
  • 00:52:23.629 --> 00:52:25.130
  • Sure, Joseph didit, Abraham did it
  • 00:52:25.130 --> 00:52:27.733
  • but there are peopletoday that are fighting
  • 00:52:27.733 --> 00:52:30.202
  • for the God given dream eventhough they've got no money
  • 00:52:30.202 --> 00:52:32.504
  • in the bank, theirprognosis is death.
  • 00:52:32.504 --> 00:52:36.208
  • They've lost a child,they've lost a spouse,
  • 00:52:36.208 --> 00:52:39.211
  • they're alone theydon't have a home.
  • 00:52:39.211 --> 00:52:41.180
  • They don't know how they'regoing to make ends meet,
  • 00:52:41.180 --> 00:52:43.249
  • because the reprieve of the rent
  • 00:52:43.249 --> 00:52:46.018
  • that the government hasmade possible is ending.
  • 00:52:46.018 --> 00:52:50.289
  • what's gonna happen,
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  • I believe this bookcan bless people
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  • that are in that situation.
  • 00:52:53.192 --> 00:52:54.660
  • - I said it earlier, but whensomeone like Jordan Rubin
  • 00:52:54.660 --> 00:52:57.696
  • who spends most ofhis time formulating
  • 00:52:57.696 --> 00:53:00.299
  • for fortune 500 type companies,
  • 00:53:00.299 --> 00:53:03.969
  • sits down and writes a bookoff subject of wat it--
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  • I think you oughtapay attention to that.
  • 00:53:10.109 --> 00:53:11.577
  • Jordan thank you for breakingdown the Joseph blessing,
  • 00:53:11.577 --> 00:53:15.414
  • hang on to your dreamyou all have one.
  • 00:53:15.414 --> 00:53:18.050
  • Hang on to your dream.
  • 00:53:18.050 --> 00:53:19.518
  • We will you will get the bookit's available right now.
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  • Call the number on your screen.
  • 00:53:22.187 --> 00:53:23.422
  • Thank you, Jordan Rubin,
  • 00:53:23.422 --> 00:53:24.923
  • for writing it and beingwith us all one hour.
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  • We'll see you next time.
  • 00:53:27.026 --> 00:53:28.060
  • - Bye bye
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  • - Bye bye.
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  • - In recent months, we'veexperienced chaos and disruption
  • 00:53:30.396 --> 00:53:33.932
  • that has seemed to touchthe health of our bodies,
  • 00:53:33.932 --> 00:53:36.168
  • and the peace of our souls.
  • 00:53:36.168 --> 00:53:37.870
  • Many believers feellike their hopes
  • 00:53:37.870 --> 00:53:39.705
  • and dreams havebeen interrupted,
  • 00:53:39.705 --> 00:53:41.874
  • or maybe even destroyed.
  • 00:53:41.874 --> 00:53:44.410
  • That's why this monthSpecial thank you
  • 00:53:44.410 --> 00:53:46.045
  • for any gift of support to TBN,
  • 00:53:46.045 --> 00:53:48.447
  • is Jordan Rubin'sremarkable book
  • 00:53:48.447 --> 00:53:50.983
  • "The Joseph Blessing".
  • 00:53:50.983 --> 00:53:52.985
  • Matt and Laurie crouchbelieve it will help you
  • 00:53:52.985 --> 00:53:55.020
  • understand the biblical keysto rising above adversity,
  • 00:53:55.020 --> 00:53:58.457
  • and seeing yoursetbacks transformed
  • 00:53:58.457 --> 00:54:01.060
  • into set ups forGod's blessings.
  • 00:54:01.060 --> 00:54:04.463
  • - I believe that Godhas given you a dream
  • 00:54:04.463 --> 00:54:06.932
  • that can change the world.
  • 00:54:06.932 --> 00:54:08.934
  • But in order to see God's dreamand your life come to pass,
  • 00:54:08.934 --> 00:54:13.105
  • you've got to gothrough challenges.
  • 00:54:13.105 --> 00:54:15.307
  • - Equally relevant isPriscilla shirer's book
  • 00:54:15.307 --> 00:54:17.710
  • "Life Interrupted',navigating the unexpected.
  • 00:54:17.710 --> 00:54:21.380
  • In it one oftoday's most vibrant
  • 00:54:21.380 --> 00:54:23.215
  • and relevant Bible teachers,
  • 00:54:23.215 --> 00:54:24.883
  • brings you timely truth
  • 00:54:24.883 --> 00:54:26.385
  • about how to successfullynavigate new seasons of life.
  • 00:54:26.385 --> 00:54:30.789
  • - He calls our namesand our hearts more
  • 00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:33.025
  • not just because thegospels powerful,
  • 00:54:33.025 --> 00:54:35.461
  • but because it's personal.
  • 00:54:35.461 --> 00:54:37.196
  • He knows me, He knows you.
  • 00:54:37.196 --> 00:54:39.865
  • - Both books are yours andgratitude for your gift
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  • of $35 or more to TBN right now.
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  • Your support is important
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  • because our worldis in desperate need
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  • of good news right now.
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  • Please call writeor go online today.
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  • And remember, your dreamsare important to God.
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