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Matt & Laurie Crouch host John Bevere.

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Praise | John Bevere | 3/5/19

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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Narrator] Tonight on Praise from Los Angeles,
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  • best selling author, conference speaker and evangelist
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  • John Bevere.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Narrator] And now Matt and Laurie Crouch
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  • (applause)
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  • - Our guest all night tonight is John.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - Bevere, John Bevere. First of all-
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  • - Bevere Bevere.
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  • Come on with it we are going to get going on.
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  • - That's hilarious. - I love it.
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  • What are we talking about tonight?
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  • And what are you going to be unpacking this entire one hour?
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  • - So I want to talk about this new book,
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  • God Where are You?!
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  • It's a very prophetic message.
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  • And, what do you mean God where are you?!
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  • Well let me just ask anybody watching right now?
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  • Have you ever been in your Christian life,
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  • and if you've been saved over a few months,
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  • you'll know what I'm talking about,
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  • in a situation where you thought God where are you?!
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  • where you feel like his presence is a million miles away
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  • and His promise that He's made to you is even further.
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  • That's what we're talking about tonight.
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  • And the thing that I'm going to show you in this program
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  • is that God is not far from you.
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  • You have not been put on a shelf,
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  • you are not in a negative place.
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  • You're not being punished,
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  • you are being prepared for something.
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  • - Wow.
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  • - Very important. - Beautiful.
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  • - And so this is what we're going to talk about tonight
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  • because here's the thing
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  • when we understand...
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  • The Bible says, "There's a purpose,
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  • "for every season under heaven."
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  • If we understand the purpose,
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  • then we behave correctly.
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  • The children of Israel didn't understand
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  • the purpose of the wilderness.
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  • So they behaved incorrectly.
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  • The result was what was only supposed
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  • to be a one year short stint ended up becoming a lifetime.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And so what my passion right now is,
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  • I don't want to see believers in the body of Christ.
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  • I don't want to see them spend a lifetime in the wilderness.
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  • You can't short in a wilderness season,
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  • but you can certainly lengthen it.
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  • - Got it.
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  • - And I don't want to see anybody lengthen it
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  • longer than it needs to be.
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  • It's a very important time
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  • that we're going to talk about in this program.
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  • But if we don't behave correctly,
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  • if we don't have the why, the understanding we will
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  • because we'll feel like God's abandoned us
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  • and so that's what I really want to talk about tonight.
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  • - Has it happened to you?
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  • - Oh my gosh many times,
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  • but the first two times,
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  • I've gone through seasons of wilderness in my life, okay?
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  • The first two were both about 18 months long each.
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  • And most of this book is written out of those experiences
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  • because I was so frustrated,
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  • I kept saying, "God I don't get it."
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  • I remember when I got saved,
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  • I was raised in the church
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  • and I didn't know God,
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  • I had no relationship with God,
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  • so it was very obvious,
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  • so people are witnessing to me in high school, right?
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  • They're witnessing to me in college
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  • and yet here I am playing varsity tennis
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  • at Purdue University, I'm playing Junior Davis Cup tennis
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  • the USTA I'm having my coach take me to mass
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  • every single week but I have no idea who Jesus is, right?
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  • And so this one guy who actually...
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  • He left my room...
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  • He told me after I got saved my freshman year of college,
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  • he said in tears,
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  • because I was not even connecting to what he was saying.
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  • My sophomore year...
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  • And athletics was my life.
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  • One of the most phenomenal athletes in Purdue University,
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  • was in my fraternity, he came up to my room one night.
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  • While he's sharing with me,
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  • I realized, God really wanted to reveal Himself to me
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  • personally. - Wow.
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  • - That he cared about me deeply,
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  • that he loved me uniquely,
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  • that he actually wanted to make promises to me as a father
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  • would make to his children, right?
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  • That he actually had crafted a plan for my life.
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  • Well, that night as he shared my eyes were open
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  • and I received Jesus
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  • and what was so amazing to me Laurie
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  • is the presence of God.
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  • And it's a part of our Christian life.,
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  • because Jesus said, "I will manifest myself to you."
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  • - Right.
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  • - So manifest means bring from the unseen into the seen
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  • the unheard into the heard, the unknown into the known,
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  • it's when God makes himself real to our senses.
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  • His presence was overwhelming
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  • and I'm like all the success I had in tennis,
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  • the success I had in school,
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  • the girls I dated, the masses that I went to every week.
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  • None of that could fill,
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  • He instantly filled with his presence.
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  • So the first couple years, I'm walking with God.
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  • It's like, I just whisper His name.
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  • And he's there. - Wow.
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  • - I'm going to services and I'm crying.
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  • I remember watching a thunderstorm
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  • build in Raleigh, North Carolina,
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  • and I just start tearing up thinking,
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  • my dad has created all of this.
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  • And so this is hilarious.
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  • The way he answered prayers was unbelievable.
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  • One time I remember my cassette player in my car.
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  • Does anybody know what that does?
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  • (laughter)
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  • - Does anybody know?
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  • Do you know what a cassette is?
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  • - Yes.
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  • - It's a dinosaur, right?
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  • So I'm sitting there, it broke.
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  • So I can't listen to worship,
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  • I can't listen to my teaching tapes.
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  • And I'm like Jesus, you said lay hands
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  • on the sick and they'll recover.
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  • I put my hands on the cassette player, right?
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  • And I took them off I did it again.
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  • And it start playing and it never broke again.
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  • - Wow. Wow.
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  • But then all of a sudden, after a couple years,
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  • His presence became very elusive
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  • and He's not answering prayers quickly.
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  • And it seems like I'm not moving towards promises.
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  • I'm moving away from promises that he's made me.
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  • And the overarching question
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  • in my heart was God, where are you?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - And this is what I want to help people understand.
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  • Because the first thing you start thinking is
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  • what sin of I committed?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Okay. That's where your mind goes immediately.
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  • - You're in trouble.
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  • - Am I not reading the Bible enough?
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  • Am I not praying?
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  • That is so ridiculous.
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  • And I want that off your mind right now.
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  • No, you didn't commit a sin.
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  • If you have, you will know, confess it.
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  • But I'm looking for something that's not there.
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  • I mean, with all my heart, I'm living the best I can.
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  • I'm in love with Jesus, and I'm like,
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  • "You're abandoning me." - Wow.
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  • - So I go through 18 months of this
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  • and the cries that I had in my heart.
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  • I just couldn't get it but then one day I saw what Job, said
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  • Job said, "Look, I go forward but He's not there
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  • "and backward I can't perceive Him
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  • "when He works on my right hand."
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  • So He's working on Job's behalf
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  • but Job can't perceive it.
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  • He said, "But when He's tested me,
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  • "I shall come forth as pure gold."
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  • Oh, there's so much in this.
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  • I could literally go for an hour on this.
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  • But what God is...
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  • First of all, God is not putting you on a shelf,
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  • because God says, "Don't waste time."
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  • Right?
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  • He's the one that says in the Bible redeem the time.
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  • So he's gonna put you on a shelf
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  • until he wants to use you.
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  • He's not abandoned you because you've done something wrong.
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  • He's not punishing you,
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  • He is preparing you.
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  • - That's beautiful. It's beautiful.
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  • (applause)
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  • - We are...
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  • - We're going to be sitting with John Bevere.
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  • The subject matter is God Where are You?!
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  • we have prepared a role and take a peek at this.
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  • - Every single Christian
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  • is going through the wilderness,
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  • whether you like it or not.
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  • Every biblical man and woman of God
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  • that finished well went through one.
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  • It's easy sometimes when God is moving
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  • so mightily in a church service or in a conference,
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  • and you just sense his presence.
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  • But what about when you go home?
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  • And what about when that presence isn't there?
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  • The biggest misconception that people have
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  • when they're in a season of wilderness
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  • is they think that they've done something wrong.
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  • They've angered God,
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  • they've distance God by what they've done.
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  • And so they're constantly looking for, what did I do?
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  • What did I do?
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  • when in reality,
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  • God is saying, "Come closer, come closer, come closer."
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  • I know so many people listening to me right now.
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  • They're in a dry time.
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  • They feel like God is distant.
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  • They are not seeing what God has promised them come to pass.
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  • In fact, it looks like they're going the opposite direction.
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  • This is not a time of rejection.
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  • It's not a time where God is saying,
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  • "Later I'm just gonna put you on hold
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  • "until one day this opportunity comes
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  • "that I've planned for you."
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  • It is God preparing you with the character
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  • and the strength to be ready for the season
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  • He's called you into.
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  • (applause)
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  • - John you realize that you've taken,
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  • this subject and you've really flipped it-
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  • - As it should be.
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  • - As it should be and I appreciate that.
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  • And let me just tell you something,
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  • what I'm getting so far and what we're going to,
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  • continue this entire evening.
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  • But what I'm getting out of this is,
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  • is if you think the wilderness season,
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  • which by the way,
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  • with Jonathan Khan on TBN here called it a mid bar,
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  • and he was explaining that it's a holy place.
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  • Somehow we have never understood
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  • and you've explained it in this opening monologue here
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  • that God is, it's a preparation piece for you, okay?
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  • It's preparing you for something, okay?
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  • Never before tonight could I have actually...
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  • Even with Jonathan I would have called that holy thing.
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  • But it's a preparation piece.
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  • And let me just tell you something
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  • that'll change the way you think about everything,
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  • when you're doing this.
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  • John you've really brought some revelation out here.
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  • And we need to jump into-
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  • - Well, what I love about it
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  • is that he gives us tips for the journey.
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  • - Right.
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  • - And and so first of all reading it,
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  • it made me think and know because
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  • I've had an experience that changed my life one day.
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  • And I won't get into it,
  • 00:10:08.030 --> 00:10:09.160
  • what we do now is not weird.
  • 00:10:10.220 --> 00:10:13.170
  • The things we go through now
  • 00:10:13.170 --> 00:10:16.000
  • isn't for us now it's for eternity.
  • 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.210
  • And the decisions we make and and what we do
  • 00:10:19.210 --> 00:10:23.120
  • is to bring the glory of God when we get, right?
  • 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:27.020
  • - Right. It's also not just for eternity.
  • 00:10:27.020 --> 00:10:29.120
  • It's for two years from now,
  • 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.010
  • it's for four years from now,
  • 00:10:31.010 --> 00:10:32.050
  • it's four or five-
  • 00:10:32.050 --> 00:10:33.110
  • - But everything matters. - Yes.
  • 00:10:33.110 --> 00:10:34.220
  • - Everything that we do matter.
  • 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:36.050
  • Complaining matters.
  • 00:10:36.050 --> 00:10:37.110
  • - If you look at Joseph,
  • 00:10:37.110 --> 00:10:39.030
  • when Joseph...
  • 00:10:40.140 --> 00:10:41.160
  • Let me say this,
  • 00:10:42.130 --> 00:10:43.210
  • God, he does this with every child.
  • 00:10:43.210 --> 00:10:46.260
  • There's a three step pathway to our destiny.
  • 00:10:46.260 --> 00:10:50.180
  • First of all, who make us a promise okay?
  • 00:10:50.180 --> 00:10:53.150
  • He doesn't with every child,
  • 00:10:53.150 --> 00:10:55.010
  • He'll give you glimpses of where you're going, right?
  • 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.220
  • I have, I have a file folder in my desk
  • 00:10:56.220 --> 00:11:00.050
  • of things God showed me
  • 00:11:00.050 --> 00:11:02.030
  • in 1981 that I didn't start fulfilling
  • 00:11:02.030 --> 00:11:05.070
  • until I was in my 50s. - Yeah.
  • 00:11:05.070 --> 00:11:07.170
  • - Okay. So He'll make promises.
  • 00:11:07.170 --> 00:11:09.210
  • And if you're thinking out there,
  • 00:11:09.210 --> 00:11:11.230
  • "Well, that hasn't happened with me."
  • 00:11:11.230 --> 00:11:13.130
  • I'm going to challenge you and that please understand,
  • 00:11:13.130 --> 00:11:16.030
  • I'm saying this out of a deep, deep love for you.
  • 00:11:16.030 --> 00:11:19.080
  • The Bible says that God rewards those
  • 00:11:20.140 --> 00:11:21.260
  • who diligently seek Him in faith.
  • 00:11:21.260 --> 00:11:23.220
  • The Bible does not say that God will reward
  • 00:11:23.220 --> 00:11:25.040
  • those who casually seek Him in wonder in doubt.
  • 00:11:25.040 --> 00:11:28.130
  • - Right? - Yeah.
  • 00:11:28.130 --> 00:11:29.200
  • - So I'm young, I'm in college, I literally
  • 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:33.210
  • this is going to seem stupid but I believe it was smart.
  • 00:11:33.210 --> 00:11:37.060
  • I walked off the tennis team at
  • 00:11:37.060 --> 00:11:38.210
  • Purdue University as a starter
  • 00:11:38.210 --> 00:11:40.200
  • because I had no time for God.
  • 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.230
  • Because the studies were engineering
  • 00:11:42.230 --> 00:11:44.240
  • and they were too difficult.
  • 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.200
  • So I've never regretted that decision.
  • 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.000
  • Not once, okay?
  • 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:50.150
  • But what I did is I'm out
  • 00:11:50.150 --> 00:11:53.090
  • near my fraternity on the golf course at night,
  • 00:11:54.210 --> 00:11:56.290
  • praying, crying out to God,
  • 00:11:56.290 --> 00:11:58.050
  • and God's given me glimpses.
  • 00:11:58.050 --> 00:12:00.020
  • Once that happens He gives you a promise.
  • 00:12:00.020 --> 00:12:02.280
  • Then comes the process.
  • 00:12:02.280 --> 00:12:04.250
  • The process is the wilderness okay?
  • 00:12:04.250 --> 00:12:07.090
  • This is where he develops in you the character
  • 00:12:07.090 --> 00:12:11.010
  • to handle the promise. - Wow.
  • 00:12:11.010 --> 00:12:13.020
  • - And then the third step is the promotion
  • 00:12:13.020 --> 00:12:16.070
  • which is the promise fulfilled.
  • 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:17.230
  • If you look at Joseph when he shows up in the Bible,
  • 00:12:17.230 --> 00:12:20.030
  • he is my favorite, he and Daniel are my two favorites
  • 00:12:21.160 --> 00:12:24.160
  • in the Old Testament, I love them.
  • 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:26.060
  • And I'll tell you why as I walk through this.
  • 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:29.110
  • When you look at Joseph,
  • 00:12:29.110 --> 00:12:31.160
  • when he shows up in the scene the second verse it says,
  • 00:12:31.160 --> 00:12:33.150
  • he told his dad some bad things his brothers were doing.
  • 00:12:33.150 --> 00:12:35.220
  • So he's a tattletale. - Yeah.
  • 00:12:35.220 --> 00:12:37.110
  • - All right. Verse eight he is bragging about,
  • 00:12:37.110 --> 00:12:41.160
  • he's got the rob of many colors.
  • 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:43.130
  • So he's proud, right?
  • 00:12:43.130 --> 00:12:45.290
  • And verse eight in the New Living says it so well,
  • 00:12:45.290 --> 00:12:48.080
  • that he was speaking down to his brothers.
  • 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:49.280
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:12:49.280 --> 00:12:51.020
  • - So we got a tattletale, a booster,
  • 00:12:51.020 --> 00:12:52.100
  • and he's bragging about his dreams,
  • 00:12:52.100 --> 00:12:53.280
  • and he's talking down to people.
  • 00:12:53.280 --> 00:12:56.040
  • If God would have fulfilled the vision
  • 00:12:56.040 --> 00:12:58.200
  • of that leadership at that time,
  • 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.140
  • we would have had a very narcissistic, insecure leader.
  • 00:13:01.140 --> 00:13:04.240
  • See Saul never went through a wilderness, David did.
  • 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:07.240
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:08.220
  • - Saul did not finish well,
  • 00:13:08.220 --> 00:13:10.070
  • he had this humility that looked like it was real,
  • 00:13:10.070 --> 00:13:11.270
  • but it wasn't he's hiding in the equipment
  • 00:13:11.270 --> 00:13:14.010
  • when he's called, his name is called.
  • 00:13:14.010 --> 00:13:16.180
  • But if you look at his first major victory,
  • 00:13:16.180 --> 00:13:18.070
  • he builds a monument to himself.
  • 00:13:18.070 --> 00:13:19.160
  • So his humility was completely-
  • 00:13:19.160 --> 00:13:21.290
  • - Off the radar.
  • 00:13:21.290 --> 00:13:23.050
  • - It was superficial.
  • 00:13:23.050 --> 00:13:25.190
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:13:25.190 --> 00:13:26.170
  • - It wasn't genuine humility.
  • 00:13:26.170 --> 00:13:27.290
  • And I think it's really funny,
  • 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:31.120
  • if you look at Moses,
  • 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:32.190
  • he goes through a 40 year wilderness.
  • 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:34.170
  • And yet he writes in numbers 12,
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:36.020
  • Moses was the most humble man and the whole earth
  • 00:13:36.020 --> 00:13:38.110
  • who writes there that they are the
  • 00:13:38.110 --> 00:13:39.280
  • most humble man in the whole earth?
  • 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:42.160
  • Somebody who's truly humble
  • 00:13:42.160 --> 00:13:44.010
  • because he understands what true humility is complete,
  • 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:46.160
  • utter dependence on God
  • 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:48.060
  • and His passionate love for other people.
  • 00:13:48.060 --> 00:13:50.060
  • But here goes Joseph,
  • 00:13:50.060 --> 00:13:51.090
  • and we all know Joseph story
  • 00:13:51.090 --> 00:13:52.160
  • so I'm not going to take time on this,
  • 00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:53.270
  • sold as a slave thrown in a pit
  • 00:13:53.270 --> 00:13:55.160
  • pit stands for preachers and training
  • 00:13:55.160 --> 00:13:57.100
  • I'm sure you've heard that and TBN a few times.
  • 00:13:57.100 --> 00:13:59.250
  • Then he's sold as a slave for 10 years
  • 00:14:01.020 --> 00:14:02.140
  • now what we don't understand in the Western world
  • 00:14:02.140 --> 00:14:04.160
  • is back then when you're sold as a slave
  • 00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:06.210
  • to a foreign nation,
  • 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:08.050
  • you're going to be a slave the rest of your life,
  • 00:14:08.050 --> 00:14:10.080
  • your wife's going to be a slave,
  • 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:11.070
  • your children to be slaves.
  • 00:14:11.070 --> 00:14:12.140
  • Now it's one thing to be born a slave,
  • 00:14:12.140 --> 00:14:13.230
  • it's completely totally different scenario
  • 00:14:13.230 --> 00:14:16.030
  • when you've been born the heir
  • 00:14:16.030 --> 00:14:17.190
  • of a very wealthy man
  • 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:19.260
  • and you're the favorite son,
  • 00:14:19.260 --> 00:14:21.210
  • and you have it all stripped away from you buy your brothers
  • 00:14:21.210 --> 00:14:24.190
  • and now you're in slavery for 10 years.
  • 00:14:24.190 --> 00:14:27.220
  • Okay, so let's take 10 years ago,
  • 00:14:27.220 --> 00:14:30.060
  • that's a long time ago right?
  • 00:14:30.060 --> 00:14:32.180
  • All right.
  • 00:14:32.180 --> 00:14:33.130
  • God's always blessing you, no matter where you are.
  • 00:14:34.260 --> 00:14:36.040
  • He's doing all right.
  • 00:14:36.040 --> 00:14:37.130
  • But something very bad is happening.
  • 00:14:37.130 --> 00:14:39.140
  • The master's wife
  • 00:14:39.140 --> 00:14:40.270
  • because he's in one of the kings officers home as a slave.
  • 00:14:40.270 --> 00:14:44.080
  • His wife gets the hots for him.
  • 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:45.200
  • And she doesn't approach him ones.
  • 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.000
  • She approaches him every day.
  • 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.070
  • Okay, now think about it.
  • 00:14:51.070 --> 00:14:52.170
  • This woman's dressed in the best.
  • 00:14:52.170 --> 00:14:54.030
  • She's scented in the best
  • 00:14:54.030 --> 00:14:55.170
  • and she's got a seducing spirit probably up to our eyeballs.
  • 00:14:55.170 --> 00:14:57.280
  • Right? She's doesn't approach him just once
  • 00:14:57.280 --> 00:15:00.050
  • she approaches in every day.
  • 00:15:00.050 --> 00:15:01.210
  • And I love how he obeys the Word of God.
  • 00:15:01.210 --> 00:15:03.290
  • He goes, "No, no."
  • 00:15:03.290 --> 00:15:04.280
  • He resists it every day.
  • 00:15:04.280 --> 00:15:06.070
  • Now, the thing we got to remember is,
  • 00:15:06.070 --> 00:15:07.080
  • he doesn't have a connect group,
  • 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.260
  • he don't have a pastor,
  • 00:15:08.260 --> 00:15:10.150
  • nobody knows who he is. - Yeah.
  • 00:15:10.150 --> 00:15:12.040
  • - Yet he's still obeying God.
  • 00:15:12.040 --> 00:15:14.050
  • But now we're looking at 10 years.
  • 00:15:14.050 --> 00:15:16.070
  • We're not one ounce of the vision
  • 00:15:16.070 --> 00:15:17.170
  • that God's given him has come to pass
  • 00:15:17.170 --> 00:15:18.270
  • yet he's still obeying God.
  • 00:15:18.270 --> 00:15:20.120
  • This is what people do when they go into a desert time
  • 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.210
  • they get passive aggressive and they say,
  • 00:15:22.210 --> 00:15:25.150
  • "I'm going to take it out on God by not obeying you."
  • 00:15:25.150 --> 00:15:28.220
  • Now none of us would ever say that.
  • 00:15:28.220 --> 00:15:31.040
  • But this is what the way people think deep down.
  • 00:15:31.040 --> 00:15:33.240
  • It's almost like, "I'm going to get a little revenge,
  • 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.120
  • "because God, you're not moving the way
  • 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:36.190
  • "I think you should be moving in my life."
  • 00:15:36.190 --> 00:15:39.020
  • Okay? But he doesn't do this he obeys.
  • 00:15:39.020 --> 00:15:41.000
  • And I love what Paul says to the Philippian church,
  • 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:42.240
  • he says in Philippines 2:12, "As you obeyed in my presence,
  • 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:46.100
  • "even now much more, obey in my absence,
  • 00:15:46.100 --> 00:15:49.220
  • "and work out your salvation with fear and trembling."
  • 00:15:49.220 --> 00:15:52.100
  • I love that.
  • 00:15:52.100 --> 00:15:53.080
  • So Joseph fears God which means
  • 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.230
  • that's not Paul speaking to the Philippians,
  • 00:15:56.270 --> 00:15:58.090
  • that's God speaking to us.
  • 00:15:58.090 --> 00:15:59.260
  • It's easy to obey God when we're in the conference,
  • 00:15:59.260 --> 00:16:02.050
  • the anointing is there, somebody is worshiping
  • 00:16:02.050 --> 00:16:04.050
  • we got tears pouring down our face.
  • 00:16:04.050 --> 00:16:05.200
  • But what about when you've been gossiped about at work,
  • 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.270
  • and you are losing your job,
  • 00:16:07.270 --> 00:16:09.040
  • or your kid is throwing up at midnight,
  • 00:16:09.040 --> 00:16:11.020
  • that's when the rubber meets the road.
  • 00:16:11.020 --> 00:16:14.130
  • And what Paul saying is,
  • 00:16:14.130 --> 00:16:15.280
  • you have done so well, and this is actually God saying,
  • 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:18.040
  • you have obeyed even in my absence,
  • 00:16:18.040 --> 00:16:19.240
  • and the absence of my presence.
  • 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.080
  • Joseph's in Egypt, no church, no fellowship, no Bible
  • 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.210
  • and yet he's obeying God, he's resisting right?
  • 00:16:26.210 --> 00:16:30.050
  • So then she grabs him by the rob one day,
  • 00:16:30.050 --> 00:16:32.270
  • they're in the house alone,
  • 00:16:32.270 --> 00:16:34.080
  • she's probably working it up.
  • 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:36.220
  • She's got a little breasts showing,
  • 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:37.260
  • she's probably got a leg out one
  • 00:16:37.260 --> 00:16:39.050
  • side of the slit of her outfit,
  • 00:16:39.050 --> 00:16:40.220
  • and she comes up and goes,
  • 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:42.150
  • "Nobody's gonna know, nobody is going to know.
  • 00:16:42.150 --> 00:16:46.140
  • "Come on, I'm all yours.
  • 00:16:46.140 --> 00:16:48.200
  • "My husband's away."
  • 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.240
  • And I love what this man does,
  • 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:52.130
  • he flees sexual immorality.
  • 00:16:52.130 --> 00:16:53.260
  • He does exactly what the Word of God says.
  • 00:16:53.260 --> 00:16:56.090
  • What does it end up getting him
  • 00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:57.150
  • it gets him in the dungeon.
  • 00:16:57.150 --> 00:16:58.280
  • Now in America, our prisons are country clubs,
  • 00:16:58.280 --> 00:17:02.040
  • compared to a Middle Eastern dungeon.
  • 00:17:02.040 --> 00:17:03.190
  • - Right.
  • 00:17:03.190 --> 00:17:04.260
  • - I just preached in the largest prison
  • 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:06.030
  • in the United States six months ago, okay?
  • 00:17:06.030 --> 00:17:07.180
  • It's called Angola it's in Louisiana it's unbelievable.
  • 00:17:07.180 --> 00:17:10.130
  • So I've been in Middle Eastern dungeons,
  • 00:17:10.130 --> 00:17:13.020
  • they're usually hideous cisterns
  • 00:17:13.020 --> 00:17:14.280
  • they're about four feet tall.
  • 00:17:14.280 --> 00:17:17.140
  • And the Bible says, "They laid his feet in irons,
  • 00:17:17.140 --> 00:17:19.230
  • "and hurt his feet with fetters."
  • 00:17:19.230 --> 00:17:21.050
  • Right?
  • 00:17:21.050 --> 00:17:22.210
  • They're four feet tall, no sun,
  • 00:17:22.210 --> 00:17:24.240
  • it's usually dump because it used to be a cistern, okay?
  • 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:28.040
  • He's chained...
  • 00:17:28.040 --> 00:17:29.270
  • There's no television,
  • 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.280
  • there's no basketball courts,
  • 00:17:34.280 --> 00:17:36.140
  • he's in the rat
  • 00:17:36.140 --> 00:17:37.220
  • and they would give them the bread of affliction
  • 00:17:37.220 --> 00:17:39.130
  • which is this.
  • 00:17:39.130 --> 00:17:41.020
  • They don't want him to die because dying is too easy
  • 00:17:41.020 --> 00:17:43.090
  • so they get just enough bread and water
  • 00:17:43.090 --> 00:17:45.120
  • to keep them alive because they want them to suffer.
  • 00:17:45.120 --> 00:17:47.260
  • So he's in this dungeon
  • 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:50.100
  • and then God brings the greatest test to Joseph.
  • 00:17:50.100 --> 00:17:53.180
  • Now what's the greatest test?
  • 00:17:53.180 --> 00:17:55.070
  • And by the way, everybody's so down on test.
  • 00:17:55.070 --> 00:17:57.270
  • Why?
  • 00:17:57.270 --> 00:17:59.000
  • Because they're midterms and our final,
  • 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:59.280
  • test is actually a good thing.
  • 00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:01.210
  • I flew over the ocean three nights ago okay?
  • 00:18:01.210 --> 00:18:04.140
  • I am so glad the pilot passed the test.
  • 00:18:04.140 --> 00:18:06.190
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:18:06.190 --> 00:18:08.020
  • - Because he and I didn't end up in the ocean.
  • 00:18:08.020 --> 00:18:09.270
  • God said to Israel I brought you out in this wilderness
  • 00:18:09.270 --> 00:18:12.030
  • so you could find out what was in your heart.
  • 00:18:12.030 --> 00:18:14.010
  • So anyway, that's another story.
  • 00:18:14.010 --> 00:18:15.190
  • So God brings the greatest test to Joseph.
  • 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:19.040
  • What is it?
  • 00:18:19.040 --> 00:18:20.020
  • He brings two men, the butler
  • 00:18:20.020 --> 00:18:21.000
  • and the baker we all know that.
  • 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:21.200
  • Right? Right.
  • 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.180
  • They just had dreams last night.
  • 00:18:22.180 --> 00:18:24.030
  • What's the test?
  • 00:18:24.030 --> 00:18:26.010
  • Can Joseph proclaim to them the faithfulness of God.
  • 00:18:26.010 --> 00:18:29.070
  • - In a dream.
  • 00:18:29.070 --> 00:18:30.230
  • - When he hasn't seen. - Yeah.
  • 00:18:30.230 --> 00:18:33.000
  • - One ounce of faithfulness of God in his life
  • 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.010
  • in regard to his dream in over 10 years.
  • 00:18:36.010 --> 00:18:38.260
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:18:38.260 --> 00:18:39.210
  • - Think about it.
  • 00:18:39.210 --> 00:18:40.280
  • God says, "Your brother is going to serve you,
  • 00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:41.260
  • "you're going to be a leader,
  • 00:18:41.260 --> 00:18:42.240
  • you're brothers will serve you.
  • 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.070
  • "And even your mom and dad will be under your leadership."
  • 00:18:44.070 --> 00:18:45.140
  • And he doesn't see ounce of it come to pass,
  • 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:47.210
  • on top of that he just preaches the dream
  • 00:18:47.210 --> 00:18:50.160
  • that gets into the pit and slavery,
  • 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:52.010
  • he resists and obey God and flees sexual morality.
  • 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:54.190
  • And it gets him to the dungeon.
  • 00:18:54.190 --> 00:18:55.270
  • So the more is obeying God in the wilderness,
  • 00:18:55.270 --> 00:18:58.090
  • the worst his life becomes.
  • 00:18:58.090 --> 00:19:00.130
  • Now can he proclaim to the Butler and the Baker
  • 00:19:00.130 --> 00:19:03.030
  • the faithfulness of God when he hasn't seen
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:04.210
  • one shred of evidence in his own life for 10 years.
  • 00:19:04.210 --> 00:19:08.010
  • If Joseph would have been like a lot of us,
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  • you know what he would have said,
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  • " You had a dream last night. Leave me alone,
  • 00:19:11.030 --> 00:19:13.090
  • "I had a dream once, dreams don't come true.
  • 00:19:13.090 --> 00:19:15.290
  • "Leave me alone."
  • 00:19:15.290 --> 00:19:17.270
  • Now if he would have done that
  • 00:19:17.270 --> 00:19:19.100
  • he would have died in that dungeon.
  • 00:19:19.100 --> 00:19:20.180
  • And you know what he would have died saying,
  • 00:19:20.180 --> 00:19:22.020
  • "God's not faithful He doesn't keep his promises."
  • 00:19:22.020 --> 00:19:24.210
  • When in reality, God is faithful.
  • 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:27.010
  • And God was using all of this
  • 00:19:27.010 --> 00:19:28.170
  • to prepare Joseph to have the character to handle
  • 00:19:28.170 --> 00:19:30.110
  • because we see...
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  • He interprets the dreams,
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  • this guy obeys God when nothing is going right.
  • 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.040
  • And so the guy gets promoted, and he forgets about him.
  • 00:19:38.150 --> 00:19:41.050
  • Now he's in there for two more years.
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  • Think about being in that condition,
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  • bread of affliction, chains in a dungeon for two more years.
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  • - Seeing other people's dreams come true.
  • 00:19:48.280 --> 00:19:50.220
  • - Yes.
  • 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:51.270
  • - Knowing his family is all having-
  • 00:19:51.270 --> 00:19:53.040
  • - They forgot about him. - Yeah.
  • 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:54.280
  • - So now one day, we all know Pharaoh has a dream.
  • 00:19:54.280 --> 00:19:57.290
  • The butler goes, "Oh my gosh I forgot all about
  • 00:19:57.290 --> 00:19:59.180
  • "the guy in the dungeon."
  • 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:01.010
  • He gets promoted to number two in all of Egypt
  • 00:20:01.010 --> 00:20:02.250
  • and really number two in the world,
  • 00:20:02.250 --> 00:20:04.020
  • because Egypt's the most powerful nation.
  • 00:20:04.020 --> 00:20:05.260
  • So then we got seven years of plenty,
  • 00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:08.020
  • and now we have two more years of famine
  • 00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:10.050
  • so over 19 years.
  • 00:20:10.050 --> 00:20:12.210
  • And finally, here comes the brothers.
  • 00:20:12.210 --> 00:20:15.050
  • So we can see that the dream that God gave him,
  • 00:20:15.050 --> 00:20:18.140
  • it took 19 years
  • 00:20:18.140 --> 00:20:19.260
  • and he said, "Joseph remembered."
  • 00:20:19.260 --> 00:20:21.090
  • And that word remember doesn't go, "I just remember."
  • 00:20:21.090 --> 00:20:23.200
  • That word remembered means
  • 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:24.290
  • he kept it before him the whole way.
  • 00:20:24.290 --> 00:20:26.160
  • And that's what kept them obeying God the whole way.
  • 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.230
  • So now if he would have been in the dungeon saying,
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  • "If I ever get a hold, these guys are killing them."
  • 00:20:31.190 --> 00:20:34.050
  • God would had to leave in the dungeon.
  • 00:20:34.050 --> 00:20:36.130
  • Why?
  • 00:20:36.130 --> 00:20:37.280
  • Because he would have killed 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel,
  • 00:20:37.280 --> 00:20:39.120
  • including Judah, whom Jesus and David came through.
  • 00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:41.250
  • - Wow. - Right.
  • 00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:43.030
  • But he blesses them. - Yeah.
  • 00:20:43.030 --> 00:20:44.280
  • - And he gives one of them five times.
  • 00:20:44.280 --> 00:20:47.030
  • So Joseph now has the character
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  • to handle this position of leadership.
  • 00:20:50.020 --> 00:20:52.130
  • So whenever God is doing something in you,
  • 00:20:52.130 --> 00:20:54.180
  • you have to say to yourself,
  • 00:20:54.180 --> 00:20:57.020
  • "Wow, he's going to entrust me
  • 00:20:57.020 --> 00:20:59.020
  • "with the ability to impact other people's lives
  • 00:20:59.020 --> 00:21:01.160
  • "in a profound way that I could never do.
  • 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.190
  • "And he's preparing me for the character to have it."
  • 00:21:03.190 --> 00:21:06.070
  • - I love it.
  • 00:21:06.070 --> 00:21:07.210
  • - And that's the way we need to view the wilderness.
  • 00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:09.190
  • - Wow.
  • 00:21:09.190 --> 00:21:10.260
  • (applause)
  • 00:21:10.260 --> 00:21:11.260
  • - Wow, wow, wow.
  • 00:21:11.260 --> 00:21:13.160
  • - God where are you?
  • 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.210
  • Finding strength and purpose in your wilderness?
  • 00:21:18.020 --> 00:21:21.060
  • The takeaway so far is you're really talking
  • 00:21:21.060 --> 00:21:25.090
  • about a wilderness that you know the viewers and me
  • 00:21:25.090 --> 00:21:29.100
  • would have thought were a punishment, a distancing,
  • 00:21:29.100 --> 00:21:33.270
  • a disciplinary action. - Yeah.
  • 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:36.090
  • - And you're really flipping that
  • 00:21:36.090 --> 00:21:38.070
  • and calling it a place of preparation.
  • 00:21:38.070 --> 00:21:41.290
  • Look, John Bevere,
  • 00:21:41.290 --> 00:21:43.150
  • you've been coming on this program
  • 00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:45.200
  • and writing amazing books,
  • 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.170
  • and doing all that stuff for 100 years.
  • 00:21:47.170 --> 00:21:49.080
  • But if we're introducing him-
  • 00:21:49.080 --> 00:21:51.020
  • - I'm not that old.
  • 00:21:51.020 --> 00:21:53.050
  • - Not quite that old but-
  • 00:21:53.050 --> 00:21:54.220
  • - I know bragging about that you're younger than me.
  • 00:21:54.220 --> 00:21:56.200
  • - But we prepared if we're introducing him to you.
  • 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.210
  • Take a look at this as a little bit of a bio piece.
  • 00:21:59.210 --> 00:22:02.000
  • Watch this John Bevere.
  • 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.190
  • - [Narattor] John Bevere,
  • 00:22:04.170 --> 00:22:06.030
  • internationally sought after speaker
  • 00:22:06.030 --> 00:22:08.090
  • known for his bold teaching of the word.
  • 00:22:08.090 --> 00:22:11.090
  • His messages focused on grace and intimacy with God
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  • have positioned him as a best selling author
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  • John and his wife Lisa are the founders
  • 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:20.040
  • of Messenger International in Palmer Lake Colorado
  • 00:22:20.040 --> 00:22:24.050
  • a ministry committed to developing followers of Christ
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  • who transform our world.
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  • With his eyes set on strengthening the local church,
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  • John's mobilized the translation
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  • of more than 10 million resources
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  • for pastors and leaders in developing countries.
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  • Today he continues leading people on a great adventure
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  • of discovering God's best for their lives.
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  • John Bevere.
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  • (applause)
  • 00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:52.070
  • - John's book, 'God Where are You' is available
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  • all the information is on the screen.
  • 00:22:55.270 --> 00:22:57.240
  • And occasionally John, we get a brand new book like this,
  • 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:01.080
  • we coordinate our schedule,
  • 00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:03.020
  • we create a brand new number
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  • all of this has been prepared while
  • 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.100
  • you were flying over the ocean the other night.
  • 00:23:08.100 --> 00:23:11.120
  • And so that 800 number on the screen
  • 00:23:11.120 --> 00:23:14.060
  • is specifically for this offer.
  • 00:23:14.060 --> 00:23:16.200
  • So the people that answer that phone
  • 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.230
  • are prepared to hear you ask them about this book.
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  • It's really kind of fun that we get that all prepared.
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  • It's available. - Thank you for doing that.
  • 00:23:25.220 --> 00:23:26.290
  • - So now there's just so much to it
  • 00:23:26.290 --> 00:23:28.140
  • the necessary wilderness.
  • 00:23:29.230 --> 00:23:31.150
  • But okay so I have a problem sometimes-
  • 00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:35.150
  • - Which is what?
  • 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:36.100
  • - That we complain and we murmur
  • 00:23:37.220 --> 00:23:39.230
  • sometimes you just go, "Really God?
  • 00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:42.120
  • "This is going to happen now,
  • 00:23:42.120 --> 00:23:43.180
  • "I just got through this.
  • 00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:45.090
  • "And now this, and now this."
  • 00:23:45.090 --> 00:23:49.080
  • And you start questioning God,
  • 00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:51.260
  • where does that get us? - The murmur thing.
  • 00:23:51.260 --> 00:23:54.250
  • - It's terrible, it's complaining.
  • 00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:56.200
  • And you talk so good about that in this book.
  • 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.110
  • - So one day, I'm just reading 1st Corinthians 10,
  • 00:23:59.110 --> 00:24:03.230
  • and I see the list
  • 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:05.100
  • that really keeps them out of their destiny,
  • 00:24:05.100 --> 00:24:07.220
  • the children of Israel,
  • 00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:09.100
  • and I'm seeing sexual morality,
  • 00:24:09.100 --> 00:24:10.250
  • I'm seeing tempting Christ, I'm seeing building idols,
  • 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:14.060
  • sins and like that, I'm like, "Well, those are serious."
  • 00:24:14.060 --> 00:24:17.100
  • And then the fifth one is complaining
  • 00:24:17.100 --> 00:24:20.130
  • and I'm like, "Okay, God how can you put that in that list?"
  • 00:24:20.130 --> 00:24:25.130
  • Right? - Wow.
  • 00:24:26.030 --> 00:24:26.100
  • - And the Holy Spirit said complaining
  • 00:24:27.130 --> 00:24:29.010
  • is a very serious thing.
  • 00:24:29.010 --> 00:24:31.050
  • And I said, "Why?"
  • 00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:33.080
  • He said, "It's the evidence of a lack of holy fear."
  • 00:24:33.080 --> 00:24:37.100
  • He said, "Because complaining says straight to my face.
  • 00:24:37.100 --> 00:24:40.120
  • "God I don't like what you're doing in my life right now.
  • 00:24:40.120 --> 00:24:43.060
  • "And if I were you God, I would be doing this differently."
  • 00:24:43.060 --> 00:24:46.120
  • He said, "It is an absolute disregard for the process
  • 00:24:46.120 --> 00:24:51.000
  • that I'm preparing you for."
  • 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.120
  • If you look at the children of Israel,
  • 00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:56.180
  • let me back up here.
  • 00:24:56.180 --> 00:24:59.000
  • Since we just went through Joseph,
  • 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.140
  • let me let me set it up this way.
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  • If you look at Joseph's life,
  • 00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:04.070
  • you know what it shows us that no man, no woman,
  • 00:25:04.070 --> 00:25:06.020
  • no child, no organization, no devil
  • 00:25:06.020 --> 00:25:08.000
  • can ever get us out of the will of God.
  • 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.260
  • - Got it.
  • 00:25:09.260 --> 00:25:11.110
  • - Out of the destiny that God has prepared for us.
  • 00:25:11.110 --> 00:25:12.190
  • - Right?
  • 00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:13.170
  • - I mean Joseph's brother said,
  • 00:25:13.170 --> 00:25:14.250
  • "We're killing him
  • 00:25:14.250 --> 00:25:16.030
  • "and we'll see what becomes his dream."
  • 00:25:16.030 --> 00:25:17.160
  • Right?
  • 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.020
  • They purposely tried to thwart the destiny of God and Joseph
  • 00:25:19.020 --> 00:25:22.260
  • and yet they were the very ones God says,
  • 00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:25.010
  • because God's not bound to time he knows
  • 00:25:25.010 --> 00:25:26.290
  • the end from the beginning.
  • 00:25:26.290 --> 00:25:28.140
  • God says, "Oh yeah. You think you're going to thwart this
  • 00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:29.280
  • "I'm going to use it to put them into his destiny."
  • 00:25:29.280 --> 00:25:32.050
  • So the only one that can get you
  • 00:25:32.050 --> 00:25:35.180
  • out of your destiny is you.
  • 00:25:35.180 --> 00:25:37.260
  • - Got it.
  • 00:25:37.260 --> 00:25:39.040
  • - So God intends the children of Israel,
  • 00:25:39.040 --> 00:25:40.130
  • to go into the desert for one year
  • 00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:42.000
  • because he wants to train them
  • 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:43.090
  • to be able to conquer that land.
  • 00:25:43.090 --> 00:25:45.000
  • He said, "If I bring them this way they're going to be war
  • 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:46.230
  • "I'm gonna bring them to the desert
  • 00:25:46.230 --> 00:25:48.030
  • "so I'm going to train their character
  • 00:25:48.030 --> 00:25:49.150
  • "so they'll be ready."
  • 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:50.100
  • Right?
  • 00:25:50.100 --> 00:25:51.260
  • But they complain and they complain and they complain
  • 00:25:51.260 --> 00:25:55.150
  • now here's the thing that all of us have to realize
  • 00:25:55.150 --> 00:25:57.200
  • we have points in our life where
  • 00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.000
  • I'd like to call their life defining moments.
  • 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:03.000
  • If you look at Rehoboam he's Solomon son
  • 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.040
  • he's grown up going,
  • 00:26:06.040 --> 00:26:07.180
  • "My dad's counselors are so old fashion you know all this."
  • 00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:10.250
  • Right?
  • 00:26:10.250 --> 00:26:12.010
  • So he's got this thing going, right?
  • 00:26:12.010 --> 00:26:13.270
  • His friends they're making fun of his dad's counselors
  • 00:26:13.270 --> 00:26:15.290
  • so now he's King is like defining moment comes,
  • 00:26:15.290 --> 00:26:18.130
  • Israel comes says, "Hey, your dad was a little hard on us."
  • 00:26:18.130 --> 00:26:21.100
  • And his dad's counselor said, "Give them grace.
  • 00:26:21.100 --> 00:26:25.080
  • "Loosen the yolks."
  • 00:26:25.080 --> 00:26:28.040
  • And then he goes to his friends and goes,
  • 00:26:28.040 --> 00:26:29.180
  • "Those old fogies, show him who's boss."
  • 00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:32.000
  • And he does it,
  • 00:26:32.250 --> 00:26:34.020
  • and he loses more than half of his kingdom.
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:36.020
  • He loses 10 of the 12 tribes.
  • 00:26:36.020 --> 00:26:38.060
  • You look at Israel, they got a pattern of complaining.
  • 00:26:38.060 --> 00:26:40.090
  • All right.
  • 00:26:40.090 --> 00:26:41.040
  • "We're ran out of water,
  • 00:26:41.040 --> 00:26:42.020
  • "just watch the Red Sea parted.
  • 00:26:42.020 --> 00:26:43.180
  • "And three days later, we don't have enough water."
  • 00:26:43.180 --> 00:26:45.110
  • Right? And on then and on and on.
  • 00:26:45.110 --> 00:26:47.080
  • So now their life defining moment comes,
  • 00:26:47.080 --> 00:26:49.090
  • they don't know it's their life defining moment
  • 00:26:49.090 --> 00:26:50.210
  • is when the spies return,
  • 00:26:50.210 --> 00:26:52.030
  • and they resort to their complaining.
  • 00:26:52.030 --> 00:26:53.280
  • "God has brought us out here to kill us Oh my gosh,
  • 00:26:53.280 --> 00:26:56.020
  • "it was so much better for us back in Egypt."
  • 00:26:56.020 --> 00:26:57.220
  • Right?
  • 00:26:57.220 --> 00:26:58.170
  • They get the rest of their life in the desert.
  • 00:26:59.280 --> 00:27:02.230
  • So the destiny God created for them
  • 00:27:02.230 --> 00:27:04.280
  • what he promised them
  • 00:27:04.280 --> 00:27:06.110
  • you will enter in your Promise Land doesn't go to them.
  • 00:27:06.110 --> 00:27:08.080
  • It goes to their children.
  • 00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:10.110
  • So I'm at the point...
  • 00:27:10.110 --> 00:27:13.040
  • When Lisa this may sound harsh,
  • 00:27:13.040 --> 00:27:17.150
  • but this is becoming so real to me
  • 00:27:17.150 --> 00:27:19.190
  • that we decided with our children
  • 00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:21.220
  • we would discipline them for complaining like rebellion.
  • 00:27:21.220 --> 00:27:25.020
  • - Wow. - Okay.
  • 00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:26.130
  • - I like it.
  • 00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:27.130
  • - We had a no complaining thing in our household.
  • 00:27:28.260 --> 00:27:32.240
  • - Got it. - Okay?
  • 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.190
  • - So I'm getting almost to the point
  • 00:27:34.190 --> 00:27:36.170
  • where I'm proud because I'm not complaining
  • 00:27:36.170 --> 00:27:38.050
  • no matter what I'm going through, right?
  • 00:27:38.050 --> 00:27:39.250
  • And one day I wake up on this fast
  • 00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:41.250
  • I'll never forget I was in the mountains of Georgia.
  • 00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:45.040
  • And I hear the Holy Spirit so clearly say,
  • 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:46.270
  • soon as my eyes open up,
  • 00:27:46.270 --> 00:27:48.020
  • "I hear the complaining in your heart."
  • 00:27:48.020 --> 00:27:50.020
  • - Oh my goodness.
  • 00:27:50.020 --> 00:27:51.070
  • - My feet didn't touch the floor.
  • 00:27:51.070 --> 00:27:52.220
  • I rolled out of the bed straight to my knees.
  • 00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:54.170
  • And I said, "God, I'm so sorry."
  • 00:27:54.170 --> 00:27:57.100
  • And I realized that he hears our hearts
  • 00:27:57.100 --> 00:27:59.150
  • Jesus knew their thoughts you say
  • 00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:01.030
  • Which is easier to say, etc, etc, etc.
  • 00:28:01.030 --> 00:28:03.260
  • And I realized that that's really where is
  • 00:28:03.260 --> 00:28:06.260
  • that's where it counts. - Yeah.
  • 00:28:06.260 --> 00:28:08.120
  • - And so the thing and this is why...
  • 00:28:08.120 --> 00:28:12.210
  • And I'm not trying to sell a book okay?
  • 00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:14.290
  • This is a life message for me.
  • 00:28:14.290 --> 00:28:17.170
  • And can you take from a guy who's turning 60 this year?
  • 00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:21.060
  • Okay?
  • 00:28:21.060 --> 00:28:22.140
  • (Applause)
  • 00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:24.220
  • - And I will call you young man from now on.
  • 00:28:26.070 --> 00:28:28.060
  • - Yes, thank you uncle.
  • 00:28:28.060 --> 00:28:29.190
  • I've gone through a lot of wildernesses
  • 00:28:30.250 --> 00:28:32.150
  • and I have made mistakes.
  • 00:28:33.120 --> 00:28:35.180
  • And I've prolonged probably some seasons.
  • 00:28:36.220 --> 00:28:39.200
  • And I don't want you to do that.
  • 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.160
  • I need you to enter into your promised, fulfilled promised
  • 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:46.060
  • because all of us have to get this job done.
  • 00:28:46.060 --> 00:28:50.060
  • We have nations, we have cities,
  • 00:28:50.060 --> 00:28:51.210
  • we have so many people that need Jesus.
  • 00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:56.020
  • But yet God loves you more than
  • 00:28:57.040 --> 00:29:00.280
  • what He loves that you do for Him.
  • 00:29:00.280 --> 00:29:03.060
  • So God wants this character in you
  • 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:06.170
  • so that what he wants you to do doesn't destroy you,
  • 00:29:06.170 --> 00:29:09.220
  • like you did with Saul.
  • 00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:11.170
  • And so I'm looking at the body of Christ prophetically
  • 00:29:11.170 --> 00:29:16.130
  • let me go to a little overarching here.
  • 00:29:16.130 --> 00:29:19.010
  • In the early 1980s,
  • 00:29:20.070 --> 00:29:22.000
  • I was a member of a church
  • 00:29:22.280 --> 00:29:24.070
  • and I was the executive assistant to the pastor,
  • 00:29:24.070 --> 00:29:26.050
  • we had 450 staff members and it's probably
  • 00:29:26.050 --> 00:29:27.290
  • the best known church in the United States.
  • 00:29:27.290 --> 00:29:30.190
  • We had four nights seminars
  • 00:29:30.190 --> 00:29:32.020
  • in these meetings,
  • 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.030
  • we literally had a wall filled with wheelchairs,
  • 00:29:35.030 --> 00:29:37.240
  • walkers, I would watch
  • 00:29:39.090 --> 00:29:42.020
  • and I'm the executive assistant to the pastor
  • 00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:43.290
  • so I know it's true, I know it's not fake.
  • 00:29:43.290 --> 00:29:46.200
  • I'm watching a guy come in with a red and white.
  • 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.070
  • I know he's blind because I know they're bringing him
  • 00:29:48.070 --> 00:29:50.070
  • and he walks out seeing.
  • 00:29:50.070 --> 00:29:52.080
  • I watched the ambulance pull up
  • 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.140
  • and the paramedics roll a guy
  • 00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:57.020
  • who has less than 24 hours left to live
  • 00:29:57.020 --> 00:29:59.050
  • and the guy gets up and he's so healed,
  • 00:30:00.110 --> 00:30:02.230
  • he pushes his gurney out.
  • 00:30:02.230 --> 00:30:04.170
  • - Wow. - Okay?
  • 00:30:04.170 --> 00:30:05.120
  • - Thank you Lord.
  • 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:06.170
  • - My pastor was walking down the aisle
  • 00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:07.200
  • on a typical Sunday night
  • 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.270
  • and he's joking around and he looks at this guy
  • 00:30:08.270 --> 00:30:11.180
  • and he reads his mail
  • 00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:12.240
  • and he was the Grand Wizard the Ku Klux Klan.
  • 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.070
  • He had his Grand Wizard uniform under the seat
  • 00:30:15.070 --> 00:30:17.180
  • and a gun under that.
  • 00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:18.280
  • And he said, "God, if you're not real
  • 00:30:18.280 --> 00:30:19.270
  • "tonight I'm taking my life
  • 00:30:19.270 --> 00:30:21.100
  • "and you're gonna have to show me your real."
  • 00:30:21.100 --> 00:30:23.010
  • He walks in our church with 4000 people in the sanctuary
  • 00:30:23.010 --> 00:30:27.020
  • and our pastor is joking while he's walking down the aisle
  • 00:30:27.020 --> 00:30:30.250
  • and then all of a sudden goes, "You."
  • 00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:33.110
  • And reads his mail.
  • 00:30:33.110 --> 00:30:34.200
  • Jesus appears in one of our services
  • 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.240
  • with two angels 800 people on the right balcony scream.
  • 00:30:38.070 --> 00:30:42.200
  • Okay?
  • 00:30:43.050 --> 00:30:44.030
  • - Something- - Was like that.
  • 00:30:44.030 --> 00:30:45.100
  • Leaves an imprint of his face on the wall
  • 00:30:45.100 --> 00:30:48.100
  • that stay there for a year and a half.
  • 00:30:48.100 --> 00:30:50.100
  • Okay, I saw with my own two eyes.
  • 00:30:50.100 --> 00:30:52.030
  • So I'm thinking this is normal Christianity, right?
  • 00:30:53.260 --> 00:30:57.260
  • And God speaks to me in the midst of all this,
  • 00:30:57.260 --> 00:30:59.240
  • because I'm the guy that's
  • 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.020
  • picking up all the guest speakers, right?
  • 00:31:01.020 --> 00:31:03.100
  • God speaks to me in the midst of this and said,
  • 00:31:03.100 --> 00:31:05.130
  • "I've given a thimble full of my power to my church."
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:08.050
  • - Wow.
  • 00:31:08.050 --> 00:31:09.110
  • He said, to see how she'd handle it,
  • 00:31:09.110 --> 00:31:12.120
  • see if she's going to market it and make money off of it.
  • 00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:14.210
  • If she's going to use it, to use it to promote themselves.
  • 00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:18.180
  • He said
  • 00:31:18.180 --> 00:31:19.270
  • we didn't handle it well,
  • 00:31:22.210 --> 00:31:23.260
  • let's just leave it there.
  • 00:31:23.260 --> 00:31:25.040
  • Half of those guys that picked up in the van.
  • 00:31:25.040 --> 00:31:26.260
  • I don't want to say half,
  • 00:31:26.260 --> 00:31:28.060
  • many of those people I picked up in the van
  • 00:31:28.060 --> 00:31:30.180
  • who the people got out of the wheelchair,
  • 00:31:30.180 --> 00:31:32.060
  • not even a ministry.
  • 00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:33.210
  • My own pastor is not even in the ministry anymore
  • 00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:35.220
  • today to my knowledge
  • 00:31:35.220 --> 00:31:37.040
  • and the 4000 seat auditorium was condemned.
  • 00:31:37.040 --> 00:31:40.060
  • And I loved this man so deeply,
  • 00:31:40.060 --> 00:31:43.060
  • and I loved all these people so deeply,
  • 00:31:43.060 --> 00:31:44.260
  • but we didn't handle it well.
  • 00:31:44.260 --> 00:31:47.000
  • And with all due respect,
  • 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.100
  • if I was in this position,
  • 00:31:48.100 --> 00:31:50.000
  • I would have done the same thing, okay?
  • 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.000
  • Because I have a lot of character
  • 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.170
  • development that needs to be done.
  • 00:31:53.170 --> 00:31:54.280
  • So let's not be thinking about that, okay?
  • 00:31:54.280 --> 00:31:58.050
  • Let's look at what happened God spoke to me said,
  • 00:31:58.050 --> 00:32:01.010
  • "I'm gonna bring my church into a wilderness."
  • 00:32:01.010 --> 00:32:02.240
  • And He said, "When she comes out,
  • 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.270
  • "I gave her thimbleful.
  • 00:32:04.270 --> 00:32:06.030
  • "When she comes out she will operate
  • 00:32:06.030 --> 00:32:09.030
  • "in the greatest amount of my presence
  • 00:32:09.030 --> 00:32:11.150
  • "and power that this earth has ever seen."
  • 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:13.180
  • - Thank you, Lord.
  • 00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:14.130
  • - Now, here's the thing.
  • 00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:16.140
  • The greatest attack against us in the wilderness
  • 00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:20.030
  • comes just before we come out of it.
  • 00:32:20.030 --> 00:32:21.290
  • So if you look at Jesus,
  • 00:32:22.280 --> 00:32:24.050
  • he's in the wilderness being tempted.
  • 00:32:24.050 --> 00:32:26.070
  • God affirms Him, you're my son publicly,
  • 00:32:26.070 --> 00:32:28.140
  • then the Holy Spirit leads Him into the wilderness
  • 00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:30.260
  • to be tempted of the devil.
  • 00:32:30.260 --> 00:32:32.270
  • But Luke's Gospel we all know this says,
  • 00:32:32.270 --> 00:32:35.100
  • he goes into the wilderness, filled with the spirit,
  • 00:32:35.100 --> 00:32:37.190
  • but he returns and the power thereof.
  • 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.190
  • James says, "Blessed is the man that endures temptation
  • 00:32:39.190 --> 00:32:42.000
  • "after he's tried he will receive the crown of life."
  • 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.250
  • We're thinking crown and heaven,
  • 00:32:43.250 --> 00:32:45.030
  • no no no, well yeah that's probably true
  • 00:32:45.030 --> 00:32:46.240
  • but crown speaks of authority
  • 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.160
  • with authority comes power.
  • 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.000
  • So Jesus comes out in the power thereof, right?
  • 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.040
  • So God showed me the church is going to come out
  • 00:32:52.040 --> 00:32:55.220
  • with such power because
  • 00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:56.280
  • she'll now have the character to handle it.
  • 00:32:56.280 --> 00:32:58.180
  • But what I was sensing last year
  • 00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.060
  • and I said to my team I said,
  • 00:33:01.060 --> 00:33:02.220
  • "We need to get this book out as fast as possible."
  • 00:33:02.220 --> 00:33:05.020
  • Is that these greatest attacks
  • 00:33:05.020 --> 00:33:07.250
  • are going to come against the harvest just at the end.
  • 00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:10.050
  • Look at David, 14 years he's in the desert
  • 00:33:10.050 --> 00:33:13.120
  • but what happens at the very end
  • 00:33:13.120 --> 00:33:15.280
  • the Amalekites kidnap his wives and children
  • 00:33:15.280 --> 00:33:18.050
  • and as men's wives and children
  • 00:33:18.050 --> 00:33:19.180
  • they steal all their precious possessions
  • 00:33:19.180 --> 00:33:22.060
  • and he comes back they find it.
  • 00:33:22.060 --> 00:33:23.130
  • And now the last 600 guys
  • 00:33:23.130 --> 00:33:25.150
  • that believe in you and the earth want to kill you.
  • 00:33:25.150 --> 00:33:28.100
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:33:28.100 --> 00:33:29.230
  • - So the greatest attack came just before he came out.
  • 00:33:29.230 --> 00:33:32.110
  • So I feel in my heart prophetically, we have to be prepared.
  • 00:33:32.110 --> 00:33:37.110
  • And I believe this is a resource tool
  • 00:33:38.170 --> 00:33:40.020
  • to strengthen us so that we don't become complainers.
  • 00:33:40.020 --> 00:33:43.160
  • And in our crucial life defining moment
  • 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.140
  • not do what Joseph did or do what Israel did,
  • 00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:50.180
  • if that makes sense.
  • 00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:51.230
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:53.070
  • - And so that's why I feel so urgent about this message.
  • 00:33:53.070 --> 00:33:55.230
  • - John while you were talking just now
  • 00:33:56.260 --> 00:33:59.000
  • what if tonight's broadcast
  • 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:02.180
  • is signaling that change?
  • 00:34:03.270 --> 00:34:08.000
  • What if we are as a collective church coming out
  • 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.100
  • of some kind of testing?
  • 00:34:12.100 --> 00:34:14.190
  • Okay, so what if we're signaling that
  • 00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:19.100
  • this book could make us understand that
  • 00:34:19.100 --> 00:34:22.280
  • so prophetically, you got this book done in time
  • 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.260
  • we're sitting here now okay.
  • 00:34:25.260 --> 00:34:27.220
  • Why don't you take an opportunity,
  • 00:34:27.220 --> 00:34:29.050
  • just look at the camera pray for the people
  • 00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:30.170
  • that are watching or are here in the studio.
  • 00:34:30.170 --> 00:34:32.060
  • - Absolutely.
  • 00:34:32.060 --> 00:34:33.040
  • I know you don't even have to tell me.
  • 00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:36.140
  • I know you've been going through such struggles.
  • 00:34:36.140 --> 00:34:39.100
  • You're going through the same questions of God,
  • 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:41.130
  • why does it seem like I'm going backward?
  • 00:34:41.130 --> 00:34:44.010
  • You've made me promises,
  • 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:45.070
  • and yet I'm not moving towards them
  • 00:34:45.070 --> 00:34:46.150
  • I'm moving away from them.
  • 00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:48.060
  • Why is it that I'm having so much turmoil in my home,
  • 00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:51.120
  • on my job, in the church, whatever it is,
  • 00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:54.250
  • and you just can't figure it out.
  • 00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:57.110
  • I just want to pray.
  • 00:34:57.110 --> 00:34:58.180
  • I want to pray that God would strengthen you.
  • 00:34:58.180 --> 00:35:00.140
  • Peter didn't pray that Peter would avert the trial.
  • 00:35:00.140 --> 00:35:04.260
  • He prayed that his faith wouldn't fail.
  • 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:06.110
  • - Right. Right.
  • 00:35:06.110 --> 00:35:07.180
  • - And that's what I feel led of the spirit
  • 00:35:07.180 --> 00:35:08.270
  • to pray for you right now.
  • 00:35:08.270 --> 00:35:10.080
  • Because listen to me well,
  • 00:35:10.080 --> 00:35:12.200
  • the most valuable times of my life
  • 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:16.250
  • are those wildernesses that I wrote about.
  • 00:35:16.250 --> 00:35:18.280
  • I hated them when I was in the middle of them.
  • 00:35:20.090 --> 00:35:22.170
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:23.220
  • - I absolutely couldn't stand them.
  • 00:35:23.220 --> 00:35:26.160
  • But I look back and I realized
  • 00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:29.100
  • that is where God revealed Himself to me.
  • 00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:31.160
  • John the Baptist was in the deserts
  • 00:35:31.160 --> 00:35:34.020
  • until the day of his manifestation and what happened
  • 00:35:34.020 --> 00:35:36.080
  • Annas and Caiaphas are doing
  • 00:35:36.080 --> 00:35:37.290
  • their religious thing as being high priest,
  • 00:35:37.290 --> 00:35:39.190
  • but yet he meets God in the wilderness.
  • 00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:41.140
  • The word of the Lord came to him in the wilderness.
  • 00:35:41.140 --> 00:35:43.090
  • Moses on the backside of the desert,
  • 00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:45.030
  • God reveals himself to him in a burning bush.
  • 00:35:45.030 --> 00:35:48.040
  • Joseph is getting the ability to interpret dreams
  • 00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:53.040
  • in the middle of the desert...
  • 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.170
  • In the middle of the dungeon.
  • 00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:56.230
  • I could go on and on
  • 00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:58.070
  • the wilderness one of the great things about it
  • 00:35:58.070 --> 00:35:59.260
  • is where God reveals himself.
  • 00:35:59.260 --> 00:36:01.070
  • - Yes.
  • 00:36:01.070 --> 00:36:02.120
  • - 90% of what I preach and teach today
  • 00:36:02.120 --> 00:36:05.100
  • came out of the roughest times of my life.
  • 00:36:05.100 --> 00:36:07.240
  • - Wow. - It's true.
  • 00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:09.090
  • - You will look back at this time if you continue
  • 00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:12.200
  • to trust God, if you continue to speak,
  • 00:36:12.200 --> 00:36:16.000
  • because Malachi tells us
  • 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.070
  • and I hope I'm not running out of time.
  • 00:36:18.070 --> 00:36:19.180
  • - No. - Okay.
  • 00:36:19.180 --> 00:36:20.130
  • Malachi tells us...
  • 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:21.180
  • Malachi is a prophetic book,
  • 00:36:21.180 --> 00:36:23.240
  • of not just the days of John the Baptist and Jesus.
  • 00:36:23.240 --> 00:36:26.070
  • It's a prophetic book of the last days.
  • 00:36:26.070 --> 00:36:28.100
  • says there's gonna be three types of people.
  • 00:36:28.100 --> 00:36:29.250
  • There's going to be wicked.
  • 00:36:29.250 --> 00:36:31.090
  • The wicked are the people that don't serve God.
  • 00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:33.060
  • There's going to be the complaining Christians
  • 00:36:33.060 --> 00:36:34.230
  • and the non complaining Christians.
  • 00:36:34.230 --> 00:36:35.280
  • - Wow.
  • 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:36.280
  • - The complaining Christians
  • 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.040
  • you know what they're going to say
  • 00:36:38.040 --> 00:36:39.110
  • God said your words are harsh against me.
  • 00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:40.260
  • They're gonna say what have we said harsh against you?
  • 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.020
  • He said to them, "You have said that
  • 00:36:42.020 --> 00:36:45.130
  • it is useless to serve me."
  • 00:36:45.130 --> 00:36:47.120
  • - Wow.
  • 00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:48.190
  • - What profit is it that we've obeyed God
  • 00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:50.090
  • because we look at the proud,
  • 00:36:50.090 --> 00:36:52.030
  • the wicked and they're blessed.
  • 00:36:52.030 --> 00:36:53.190
  • - Wow.
  • 00:36:53.190 --> 00:36:55.030
  • - They're not going through the problems I'm going through.
  • 00:36:55.030 --> 00:36:56.160
  • And he said, but then there's this group of people
  • 00:36:56.160 --> 00:36:59.180
  • that fear the Lord."
  • 00:36:59.180 --> 00:37:01.200
  • They're Christians.
  • 00:37:01.200 --> 00:37:03.040
  • They're going through the same trials as the complainers
  • 00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:04.270
  • and those who fear the Lord spoke to one another.
  • 00:37:04.270 --> 00:37:08.040
  • They spoke to one another, the covenant of God.
  • 00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:10.220
  • And God said, "They're going to be mine in the days
  • 00:37:10.220 --> 00:37:12.130
  • that I make them my jewels, jewels refined in the fire."
  • 00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:15.040
  • If you look at gold, Job said,
  • 00:37:15.040 --> 00:37:16.200
  • "After He tests me I shall come forth as pure gold."
  • 00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:19.120
  • Pure gold is tender, soft, pliable,
  • 00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:23.000
  • 14 karat gold is not pure, it's hard.
  • 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.200
  • If you look at pure gold it has a counterpart called Brass
  • 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:29.020
  • Brass tarnishes because of the atmosphere.
  • 00:37:29.020 --> 00:37:31.180
  • Pure gold can never tarnish.
  • 00:37:31.180 --> 00:37:33.260
  • So do you realize that when we come through these times,
  • 00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:37.150
  • we're not tarnished by the atmosphere of the world
  • 00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:39.190
  • that we live in.
  • 00:37:39.190 --> 00:37:41.040
  • If you look at pure gold in heaven, it's transparent.
  • 00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:43.210
  • You can see through it just like glass.
  • 00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:45.250
  • When God tests us, and we come forth this pure gold
  • 00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:48.190
  • now the people see the treasure in us, not us.
  • 00:37:48.190 --> 00:37:50.190
  • - Wow.
  • 00:37:50.190 --> 00:37:51.240
  • - They see Jesus. - Beautiful.
  • 00:37:51.240 --> 00:37:53.020
  • - That's my cry when they see these eyes.
  • 00:37:53.020 --> 00:37:55.080
  • Let them see your eyes.
  • 00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:57.040
  • When they hear these words.
  • 00:37:57.040 --> 00:37:58.230
  • Let them hear your words.
  • 00:37:58.230 --> 00:38:00.200
  • When I embrace let them feel your embrace.
  • 00:38:00.200 --> 00:38:03.170
  • That's my cry. That's your cry.
  • 00:38:03.170 --> 00:38:06.020
  • That's why God is privileged you
  • 00:38:06.020 --> 00:38:08.020
  • to go through this time of training.
  • 00:38:08.020 --> 00:38:09.230
  • And when you see it that way,
  • 00:38:09.230 --> 00:38:11.130
  • see life is all about a perceptive.
  • 00:38:11.130 --> 00:38:13.010
  • Jesus said, "The light of the body is the eye."
  • 00:38:13.010 --> 00:38:15.150
  • It's the way you perceive things.
  • 00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:16.280
  • And you see this as "God, you've forsaken me,
  • 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.290
  • "My family's going through this,
  • 00:38:18.290 --> 00:38:21.170
  • "I just got fired."
  • 00:38:21.170 --> 00:38:23.020
  • You have missed what God is doing.
  • 00:38:23.020 --> 00:38:25.140
  • - Wow.
  • 00:38:25.140 --> 00:38:26.210
  • - You've seen the glass half full so to speak
  • 00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:29.110
  • instead of the way it really is.
  • 00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:31.010
  • It's half empty and going to be full and overflowing.
  • 00:38:31.010 --> 00:38:33.140
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:34.090
  • - God has privileged you
  • 00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:37.220
  • to go through this time
  • 00:38:37.220 --> 00:38:39.070
  • because he's got something much bigger
  • 00:38:39.070 --> 00:38:41.210
  • than you could ever handle with the character
  • 00:38:41.210 --> 00:38:43.080
  • you had before you went into the season.
  • 00:38:43.080 --> 00:38:46.280
  • And so I pray
  • 00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.240
  • that your faith doesn't fail.
  • 00:38:48.240 --> 00:38:50.090
  • Father, I pray for every man- - Thank you Father.
  • 00:38:50.090 --> 00:38:52.260
  • - And woman, every young man and woman
  • 00:38:52.260 --> 00:38:54.020
  • that's watching right now.
  • 00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:55.160
  • They're in a time
  • 00:38:55.160 --> 00:38:56.200
  • they're in a time of testing
  • 00:38:56.200 --> 00:38:58.100
  • and a time of testing is not negative,
  • 00:38:58.100 --> 00:39:00.200
  • like midterms and finals.
  • 00:39:00.200 --> 00:39:02.050
  • Father, it is a time where we will come forth as pure gold
  • 00:39:02.050 --> 00:39:05.120
  • and I speak to the demonic forces that have lied to you
  • 00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:08.190
  • and I command them to stop
  • 00:39:08.190 --> 00:39:11.200
  • their attacks against my brother and sister,
  • 00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:14.160
  • but this is what I'm most pray for them Father,
  • 00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:16.260
  • I pray that their faith doesn't fail
  • 00:39:16.260 --> 00:39:18.220
  • because Lord you said these trials that we go
  • 00:39:18.220 --> 00:39:21.100
  • they show that our faith is genuine.
  • 00:39:21.100 --> 00:39:23.110
  • I pray that God shows you He knows your faith is genuine
  • 00:39:23.110 --> 00:39:26.150
  • that you see that you faith is genuine.
  • 00:39:26.150 --> 00:39:28.180
  • And that you keep speaking his promises
  • 00:39:28.180 --> 00:39:30.220
  • and don't forget what He has promised you
  • 00:39:30.220 --> 00:39:32.210
  • because he is faithful to bring it to pass.
  • 00:39:32.210 --> 00:39:34.240
  • So Lord strengthen my brothers and sisters
  • 00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:37.140
  • and may their faith grow stronger in this season
  • 00:39:37.140 --> 00:39:40.090
  • in Jesus name. - Wow. Amen.
  • 00:39:40.090 --> 00:39:43.000
  • (applause)
  • 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:44.100
  • - God where are you.
  • 00:39:44.100 --> 00:39:46.070
  • John Bevere first of all you have redefined
  • 00:39:47.210 --> 00:39:51.170
  • something that we use
  • 00:39:51.170 --> 00:39:53.170
  • we use this word wilderness.
  • 00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:56.120
  • It's a time of preparation.
  • 00:39:56.120 --> 00:39:58.140
  • I want to go to a little bit of clip
  • 00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:01.010
  • and then I want to start wrapping this up.
  • 00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:03.100
  • - So good.
  • 00:40:03.100 --> 00:40:04.050
  • We prepared this little clip
  • 00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:06.270
  • take a peek, get the book, call the number.
  • 00:40:06.270 --> 00:40:09.090
  • - I believe when I was 22 years old,
  • 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.190
  • I was ready to preach the gospel to the nation's
  • 00:40:12.190 --> 00:40:15.070
  • but God said Son, "You don't have the character
  • 00:40:15.070 --> 00:40:17.190
  • "it will destroy you if I was to give you
  • 00:40:17.190 --> 00:40:19.190
  • "that position right now."
  • 00:40:19.190 --> 00:40:21.160
  • You look at Saul, King Saul,
  • 00:40:21.160 --> 00:40:23.110
  • he never went through a wilderness,
  • 00:40:23.110 --> 00:40:24.270
  • he did not have the character to handle the promise
  • 00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:27.230
  • that God made him of leadership.
  • 00:40:27.230 --> 00:40:29.170
  • But if you look at David,
  • 00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:30.240
  • he went through a 12 year wilderness.
  • 00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:33.140
  • David, when he came out of it
  • 00:40:33.140 --> 00:40:34.290
  • had the character to be a true father in Israel.
  • 00:40:34.290 --> 00:40:38.040
  • That wilderness training
  • 00:40:38.040 --> 00:40:39.200
  • prepared me to handle the success
  • 00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:43.020
  • that God was going to bring into my life.
  • 00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:44.290
  • Every single person,
  • 00:40:44.290 --> 00:40:46.130
  • every individual that's listening to me right now,
  • 00:40:46.130 --> 00:40:49.110
  • God has placed a calling on their life.
  • 00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:52.240
  • But the key is having the character
  • 00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:55.010
  • to be able to handle that position
  • 00:40:55.010 --> 00:40:57.050
  • that he has called them to.
  • 00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:58.260
  • That's the purpose of wilderness
  • 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:01.000
  • and this book will equip you
  • 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.070
  • to be able to respond correctly
  • 00:41:03.070 --> 00:41:05.140
  • so you don't extend your time in the wilderness.
  • 00:41:05.140 --> 00:41:08.230
  • (applause)
  • 00:41:09.290 --> 00:41:12.070
  • - Okay, God Where are You?! available
  • 00:41:13.290 --> 00:41:17.220
  • numbers on the screen.
  • 00:41:17.220 --> 00:41:18.270
  • - So you said something a while ago
  • 00:41:18.270 --> 00:41:21.220
  • that nothing and nobody
  • 00:41:21.220 --> 00:41:24.260
  • can stop the destiny that God has except you.
  • 00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:28.080
  • - Yes.
  • 00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:29.160
  • - So that means you can't blame anybody.
  • 00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:32.210
  • - Right.
  • 00:41:32.210 --> 00:41:33.190
  • - You can't blame any thing.
  • 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:35.120
  • You can't blame any person that they got that job,
  • 00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:39.090
  • They stole that job,
  • 00:41:39.090 --> 00:41:40.290
  • I was kicked out of that ministry or...
  • 00:41:40.290 --> 00:41:44.060
  • There are no excuses.
  • 00:41:45.010 --> 00:41:46.080
  • - Complaining and excuses is the enemy
  • 00:41:46.080 --> 00:41:49.180
  • to preparation for your future.
  • 00:41:49.180 --> 00:41:51.140
  • - Yes.
  • 00:41:51.140 --> 00:41:52.200
  • - And that's what most people do.
  • 00:41:52.200 --> 00:41:54.010
  • Is that is that the main thing that we...
  • 00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:57.180
  • is that our go to typically?
  • 00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:59.110
  • - Yeah, it is. It's-
  • 00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:01.170
  • - That they got the promotion all that stuff.
  • 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.210
  • - You manifests in many ways.
  • 00:42:04.210 --> 00:42:06.160
  • The very first wilderness that I went through-
  • 00:42:06.160 --> 00:42:09.110
  • - Manifest.
  • 00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:10.130
  • - So God- - Yeah, you manifest.
  • 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:12.150
  • Well, I'm going to show you.
  • 00:42:12.150 --> 00:42:14.010
  • - Okay. All right.
  • 00:42:14.010 --> 00:42:15.050
  • - I met a church that we predominantly speak
  • 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:18.130
  • this is that big church I was telling you about.
  • 00:42:18.130 --> 00:42:20.140
  • We were only taught on faith, on miracles right?
  • 00:42:20.140 --> 00:42:25.050
  • We didn't talk about character.
  • 00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:26.150
  • - Got it.
  • 00:42:26.150 --> 00:42:27.130
  • - It just was never mentioned.
  • 00:42:27.130 --> 00:42:28.110
  • So I'm out praying one night,
  • 00:42:28.110 --> 00:42:29.150
  • Lisa and I have no children.
  • 00:42:29.150 --> 00:42:31.210
  • Oh actually, we just had Addison.
  • 00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:33.050
  • He's like six months old. - Okay.
  • 00:42:33.050 --> 00:42:35.180
  • - And God says to me,
  • 00:42:35.180 --> 00:42:37.150
  • "I'm going to teach you to deny yourself,
  • 00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:39.000
  • "take up the cross and follow me."
  • 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:40.150
  • - Okay.
  • 00:42:40.150 --> 00:42:41.220
  • - "I'm going to begin to do a work
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  • of holiness in your life."
  • 00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:43.250
  • And I was so excited.
  • 00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:45.000
  • I left the field because it was nighttime.
  • 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.260
  • I ran back to the apartment that Lisa and I were living in.
  • 00:42:46.260 --> 00:42:49.110
  • And I said...
  • 00:42:49.110 --> 00:42:50.250
  • She's taken off for makeup getting ready for bed.
  • 00:42:50.250 --> 00:42:52.020
  • And I said, "Babe! Babe! God just spoke to me,
  • 00:42:52.020 --> 00:42:53.170
  • "He's going to begin to do a work of holiness in my life."
  • 00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:56.260
  • I was so excited.
  • 00:42:56.260 --> 00:42:58.040
  • I said, "Lisa, all the success of TV I watch
  • 00:42:58.040 --> 00:42:59.180
  • is going to leave,
  • 00:42:59.180 --> 00:43:00.270
  • all the sports watch on TV is going to leave,
  • 00:43:00.270 --> 00:43:02.210
  • I said all the eating I do
  • 00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:04.020
  • because food was an idol for me,
  • 00:43:04.020 --> 00:43:05.250
  • I'd eat when I wasn't hungry,
  • 00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:06.260
  • just because I wanted to eat.
  • 00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:08.170
  • I said, "He's going to take it all out of my life."
  • 00:43:08.170 --> 00:43:10.100
  • And I said, "I'm going to be holy."
  • 00:43:10.100 --> 00:43:12.020
  • Right? We never heard about this.
  • 00:43:12.020 --> 00:43:14.020
  • Okay, so the next three months I'm twice as fleshly,
  • 00:43:14.020 --> 00:43:17.190
  • I'm watching twice as much TV, I'm eating twice as much.
  • 00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:20.200
  • So three months later,
  • 00:43:20.200 --> 00:43:21.260
  • I go out and I go, "God what's going on?
  • 00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:23.280
  • "You said you're going to do this work of holiness.
  • 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.240
  • "I've been twice as fleshly last three months."
  • 00:43:25.240 --> 00:43:28.090
  • And he said, "That's because you're doing it your way."
  • 00:43:28.090 --> 00:43:30.160
  • He said, "Pulling this is not a work of your flesh.
  • 00:43:30.160 --> 00:43:32.180
  • "It's a product of my grace."
  • 00:43:32.180 --> 00:43:34.020
  • He said, "Son, now I'm going to do it my way."
  • 00:43:34.020 --> 00:43:36.190
  • So I'm reporting to the pastor, right?
  • 00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:39.100
  • And they moved me closer because they love me so much.
  • 00:43:39.100 --> 00:43:41.170
  • They want to be in close proximity, but it didn't work out.
  • 00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:45.010
  • So we had already hired somebody to take my other position.
  • 00:43:45.010 --> 00:43:48.050
  • So all of a sudden now,
  • 00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:49.270
  • they have to find a place for me
  • 00:43:49.270 --> 00:43:51.120
  • to work in the organization and it was in satellite sales.
  • 00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:53.270
  • Those are the guys that called the pastors
  • 00:43:53.270 --> 00:43:56.020
  • and tried to sell them satellite time
  • 00:43:56.020 --> 00:43:58.040
  • for our fore night conferences.
  • 00:43:58.040 --> 00:44:00.030
  • And so now I'm working for a woman
  • 00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:01.170
  • who reports to a man, who reports to the pastor.
  • 00:44:01.170 --> 00:44:04.280
  • So I've been demoted three levels and haven't done anything
  • 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.030
  • and I'm going through all these trials like I can't believe
  • 00:44:07.030 --> 00:44:09.090
  • so here's my response.
  • 00:44:09.090 --> 00:44:10.180
  • During this time I'd mad at my wife,
  • 00:44:10.180 --> 00:44:13.140
  • I'm not yelling at her. - You think it's her fault.
  • 00:44:13.140 --> 00:44:16.130
  • - I'm even yelling at my son.
  • 00:44:16.130 --> 00:44:18.040
  • I'm mad at my co workers, I'm mad my friends
  • 00:44:18.040 --> 00:44:20.280
  • because my friends aren't giving you the sympathy
  • 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.120
  • I feel like I should be getting.
  • 00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:24.030
  • I mean I've done nothing wrong
  • 00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:25.130
  • and I've been demoted three levels.
  • 00:44:25.130 --> 00:44:27.080
  • I'm really upset with my pastor,
  • 00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:28.230
  • I'm upset with everybody
  • 00:44:28.230 --> 00:44:30.050
  • and I'm spouting off, I'm angry all this.
  • 00:44:30.050 --> 00:44:32.210
  • So six months of this goes by,
  • 00:44:32.210 --> 00:44:34.250
  • and I go out and pray again in that same field,
  • 00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:36.220
  • and I say, "God where's all this anger coming from?
  • 00:44:36.220 --> 00:44:39.170
  • "Where's this bitterness come from?"
  • 00:44:39.170 --> 00:44:41.090
  • I said, " What do I bind?
  • 00:44:41.090 --> 00:44:42.040
  • "What do I cast out?"
  • 00:44:42.040 --> 00:44:43.280
  • The word says, you don't cast out flesh, you crucify it.
  • 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.250
  • And I remember I said,
  • 00:44:46.250 --> 00:44:49.060
  • "God, I wasn't even this angry before I got saved.
  • 00:44:49.060 --> 00:44:52.120
  • "Where is it coming from? - I'm going backwards.
  • 00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:54.080
  • - And the Lord showed me my ring on my finger.
  • 00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:58.150
  • It was 14 karat gold,
  • 00:44:58.150 --> 00:44:59.290
  • which means 14 parts out of 24 parts is gold,
  • 00:44:59.290 --> 00:45:02.140
  • 10 parts is impurities copper, zinc, nickel.
  • 00:45:02.140 --> 00:45:05.100
  • Now I've got an engineering background.
  • 00:45:05.100 --> 00:45:06.230
  • So he talks to me like this.
  • 00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:08.000
  • He goes, "If you put that ring in a furnace
  • 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:09.250
  • "and heat it up a couple thousand degrees what happens?"
  • 00:45:09.250 --> 00:45:11.230
  • I said, "It liquefies."
  • 00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:13.210
  • He said, "Then what happens?"
  • 00:45:13.210 --> 00:45:15.050
  • I said, "Well, the lighter metals, the impurities
  • 00:45:15.050 --> 00:45:16.250
  • "the coppers, zinc and nickel begins to surface.
  • 00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:19.290
  • "Because they're lighter than the gold."
  • 00:45:19.290 --> 00:45:21.090
  • He said, "They appear, right?"
  • 00:45:21.090 --> 00:45:23.250
  • And I said, "Yeah." - So your anger comes up.
  • 00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:26.180
  • - He said, "You didn't see them
  • 00:45:26.180 --> 00:45:27.280
  • "before it went into the furnace.
  • 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.190
  • "But they appear when it goes into the furnace."
  • 00:45:29.190 --> 00:45:32.040
  • I said, "Yeah."
  • 00:45:32.040 --> 00:45:33.110
  • He said, "All this anger, it's in you."
  • 00:45:33.110 --> 00:45:34.090
  • He said, "I knew it was there."
  • 00:45:34.090 --> 00:45:35.200
  • He said, "I'm letting you see it."
  • 00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:37.130
  • He said, "Now if you if you blame your pastor,
  • 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:40.100
  • "your wife, your co workers, your friends,
  • 00:45:40.100 --> 00:45:42.260
  • "it'll all go back down and we got to start all over again."
  • 00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:45.160
  • He said, "Or you can own it."
  • 00:45:45.160 --> 00:45:48.080
  • And he said, "If you own it, you'll confess it
  • 00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:50.020
  • "and ask me to take it away."
  • 00:45:50.020 --> 00:45:51.080
  • And he said, "I'll skim off those impurities
  • 00:45:51.080 --> 00:45:53.200
  • "right out of your life." - Thank you Lord. Wow.
  • 00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:54.240
  • (applause)
  • 00:45:54.240 --> 00:45:57.010
  • - So what was my response there?
  • 00:45:58.120 --> 00:46:02.110
  • - There you just got it,
  • 00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:03.170
  • I was a terror to live with,
  • 00:46:03.170 --> 00:46:05.040
  • and my friends were pulling away from me.
  • 00:46:05.040 --> 00:46:07.150
  • Because I'm so grumpy,
  • 00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:09.000
  • I'm carrying around the wilderness, I'm wearing it.
  • 00:46:11.240 --> 00:46:14.250
  • Remember Jesus said, don't appear demand to be this way.
  • 00:46:16.070 --> 00:46:20.060
  • It's one thing to have joy when
  • 00:46:20.060 --> 00:46:21.150
  • everything's going great people like you.
  • 00:46:21.150 --> 00:46:23.130
  • Can you have that same joy, that same demeanor
  • 00:46:23.130 --> 00:46:27.120
  • of I love God and love life when you're going through hell.
  • 00:46:28.240 --> 00:46:31.050
  • - Wow.
  • 00:46:31.050 --> 00:46:32.190
  • - Only people that have come through the wilderness
  • 00:46:32.190 --> 00:46:33.130
  • successfully have that.
  • 00:46:33.130 --> 00:46:35.100
  • - Wilderness has been redefined,
  • 00:46:35.100 --> 00:46:38.200
  • while we've been sitting here.
  • 00:46:38.200 --> 00:46:40.150
  • It's preparation.
  • 00:46:40.150 --> 00:46:42.140
  • If you don't complain,
  • 00:46:42.140 --> 00:46:44.170
  • you get to see
  • 00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:46.140
  • what God took you to the wilderness to show you.
  • 00:46:46.140 --> 00:46:49.140
  • And then you get to confess it,
  • 00:46:49.140 --> 00:46:51.220
  • walk away from it and be prepared for something new.
  • 00:46:51.220 --> 00:46:54.230
  • - And can I say
  • 00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:55.290
  • it's accurate that you say it's redefine.
  • 00:46:55.290 --> 00:46:58.250
  • But I believe what it really is,
  • 00:46:58.250 --> 00:47:00.180
  • is we had a wrong definition.
  • 00:47:00.180 --> 00:47:02.010
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:02.260
  • - And now we're getting
  • 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:03.240
  • the true reality of what it is.
  • 00:47:03.240 --> 00:47:06.090
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:07.130
  • - And so our perception was wrong
  • 00:47:07.130 --> 00:47:08.180
  • and now we're seeing it correctly.
  • 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:09.200
  • And yes we must redefine it.
  • 00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:12.000
  • - So I think the definition of redefine is what I said.
  • 00:47:13.140 --> 00:47:17.110
  • - Yeah, it is.
  • 00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:18.180
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:47:18.180 --> 00:47:19.130
  • Rewind the tape back
  • 00:47:21.020 --> 00:47:22.090
  • because I think you said what I just said.
  • 00:47:22.090 --> 00:47:23.100
  • - I just said around the world.
  • 00:47:23.100 --> 00:47:25.270
  • And I'd warned you,
  • 00:47:25.270 --> 00:47:27.120
  • I said, "I pray to God I don't say anything stupid tonight."
  • 00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:29.190
  • I just spelt stupid.
  • 00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:31.110
  • - We're trying to cover you about that.
  • 00:47:31.110 --> 00:47:32.180
  • - You just said what I just said.
  • 00:47:32.180 --> 00:47:34.040
  • - That's called jet lag.
  • 00:47:35.270 --> 00:47:37.080
  • - So in the book you talk about the anger that comes up.
  • 00:47:39.020 --> 00:47:42.030
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:43.010
  • - Then you give this
  • 00:47:43.010 --> 00:47:44.190
  • and this is what I was reading to you today.
  • 00:47:44.190 --> 00:47:47.040
  • 1st Peter 1:6-7, "So be truly glad
  • 00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:51.210
  • "there is a wonderful joy ahead
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  • "even though you must endure many trials
  • 00:47:53.240 --> 00:47:57.090
  • "for a little while.
  • 00:47:57.090 --> 00:47:58.240
  • "These trials will show that your faith is genuine,
  • 00:47:58.240 --> 00:48:03.080
  • "and it is being tested as fire test and purifies gold
  • 00:48:03.080 --> 00:48:07.150
  • "though your faith is far more precious than mere gold.
  • 00:48:07.150 --> 00:48:11.110
  • "So when your faith remains strong through many trials,
  • 00:48:11.110 --> 00:48:15.270
  • "it will bring you much praise and glory and honor
  • 00:48:15.270 --> 00:48:20.100
  • "on the day when Jesus Christ
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  • is revealed to the whole world."
  • 00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:25.150
  • - I love that scripture. - I love that scripture.
  • 00:48:25.150 --> 00:48:27.150
  • And it and it reminded me of
  • 00:48:27.150 --> 00:48:30.020
  • an experience that I had
  • 00:48:31.110 --> 00:48:32.180
  • I've told this many times on the air,
  • 00:48:32.180 --> 00:48:34.220
  • but I'll share it real quick.
  • 00:48:34.220 --> 00:48:36.150
  • I was in a restaurant with my kids
  • 00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:39.130
  • and one of my sons
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  • and Matt and overlooking a restaurant
  • 00:48:41.100 --> 00:48:46.000
  • and sitting there Matt got up to go to the restroom
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  • and I just with my eyes, I was just watching him
  • 00:48:49.170 --> 00:48:52.020
  • and all of a sudden my world just went pitch black.
  • 00:48:52.020 --> 00:48:56.190
  • - Lack of vision.
  • 00:48:56.190 --> 00:48:57.250
  • - So I'm sitting there and it's like,
  • 00:48:57.250 --> 00:48:59.090
  • everything just went dark, the darkest dark black
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  • I knew my son was sitting there.
  • 00:49:03.140 --> 00:49:04.220
  • I knew Matt was in the bathroom.
  • 00:49:04.220 --> 00:49:06.070
  • I wasn't having this out of body thing.
  • 00:49:06.070 --> 00:49:07.280
  • It was just there was no fear.
  • 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:11.000
  • And I was in the presence of God.
  • 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.150
  • - Wow.
  • 00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:15.240
  • - Even though was the darkest dark I've ever
  • 00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:17.280
  • and it was as if I was the only soul
  • 00:49:23.160 --> 00:49:25.290
  • that had ever been created.
  • 00:49:25.290 --> 00:49:27.080
  • And it was just me and God.
  • 00:49:27.080 --> 00:49:29.090
  • And I heard him say to me,
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  • He said, "What do you have to bring me?"
  • 00:49:30.180 --> 00:49:33.180
  • And all of a sudden my life just flashed before my eyes.
  • 00:49:35.180 --> 00:49:40.020
  • Everything that I had done,
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  • everything that I had experienced
  • 00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:43.050
  • was like this world that really hadn't happened.
  • 00:49:43.050 --> 00:49:46.010
  • It was just like a vapor.
  • 00:49:46.010 --> 00:49:47.250
  • That vapor thing was just like what I was watching.
  • 00:49:47.250 --> 00:49:52.150
  • And I remember that...
  • 00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:55.020
  • And this is horrible
  • 00:49:57.090 --> 00:49:59.020
  • this is what affected me so badly
  • 00:49:59.020 --> 00:50:02.060
  • is that I saw the times of struggle.
  • 00:50:02.060 --> 00:50:07.000
  • So I saw the times of wilderness in my life,
  • 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.030
  • and I saw the fighting
  • 00:50:11.030 --> 00:50:13.290
  • and I saw the complaining and I saw the struggle of life
  • 00:50:13.290 --> 00:50:18.280
  • and the times that I had leaned in to the negative.
  • 00:50:21.060 --> 00:50:25.100
  • And it was such wasted time
  • 00:50:25.100 --> 00:50:28.260
  • and I felt that, "Oh my God, I wasted."
  • 00:50:30.010 --> 00:50:34.210
  • Those were wasted times that I worried,
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  • that I fretted about things.
  • 00:50:38.290 --> 00:50:41.010
  • - Feared. - That I feared things.
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  • It was just wasted.
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  • So the only thing that I had to bring God
  • 00:50:51.100 --> 00:50:54.180
  • was the times that I stood in faith.
  • 00:50:54.180 --> 00:50:57.290
  • - Wow.
  • 00:50:57.290 --> 00:50:59.050
  • And that I said, who He said He was,
  • 00:50:59.050 --> 00:51:02.150
  • and in the circumstances that were just
  • 00:51:02.150 --> 00:51:06.180
  • totally against me in my life.
  • 00:51:06.180 --> 00:51:09.120
  • And I spoke not out of fear not out of-
  • 00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:13.210
  • - Complaining.
  • 00:51:14.220 --> 00:51:15.200
  • - Complaining or insecurity,
  • 00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:18.150
  • but I stood up I said,
  • 00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:19.230
  • "No, that's not what the Word of God says,
  • 00:51:19.230 --> 00:51:22.110
  • "the Word of God says, I am healed.
  • 00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:25.090
  • "The Word of God brings me joy,
  • 00:51:25.090 --> 00:51:28.010
  • "this is my peace.
  • 00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:29.220
  • "This is my joy.
  • 00:51:29.220 --> 00:51:31.120
  • "This is my rock."
  • 00:51:31.120 --> 00:51:33.070
  • Who He said He is.
  • 00:51:33.070 --> 00:51:35.010
  • And that was the only thing that I had to give God
  • 00:51:35.010 --> 00:51:38.240
  • when I got there. - Wow.
  • 00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:40.230
  • - And and the rest was such wasted time
  • 00:51:40.230 --> 00:51:44.260
  • and I said to the Lord, I said
  • 00:51:45.260 --> 00:51:48.000
  • "God, let me go back."
  • 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:51.010
  • And again, I have to state this
  • 00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:56.220
  • I was raised word of faith, and you had to be careful.
  • 00:51:56.220 --> 00:52:00.090
  • You watched what you said
  • 00:52:00.090 --> 00:52:01.260
  • the words of your mouth meant a lot,
  • 00:52:01.260 --> 00:52:03.240
  • but it made me
  • 00:52:04.290 --> 00:52:06.200
  • say in my heart to the Lord
  • 00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:10.040
  • and this took a long time for me to say
  • 00:52:10.040 --> 00:52:13.010
  • to even say it even to Matt.
  • 00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:14.080
  • - Or say it the way we're talking
  • 00:52:14.080 --> 00:52:15.060
  • about bring the wilderness.
  • 00:52:15.060 --> 00:52:16.280
  • - Yeah, you know- - Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.240
  • It was like God
  • 00:52:18.240 --> 00:52:19.260
  • for the rest of my time on Earth.
  • 00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:23.210
  • Bring it all, bring this struggle,
  • 00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:30.250
  • bring those times that I have to stand in faith
  • 00:52:30.250 --> 00:52:35.240
  • and be strong.
  • 00:52:35.240 --> 00:52:37.030
  • Now, I don't want that.
  • 00:52:37.030 --> 00:52:38.170
  • My flesh does not want that.
  • 00:52:38.170 --> 00:52:41.160
  • But it was like bringing on the moments
  • 00:52:41.160 --> 00:52:44.050
  • that I have nothing left.
  • 00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:46.260
  • But to stand strong in who you said you are.
  • 00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:50.170
  • - So that you have more-
  • 00:52:50.170 --> 00:52:51.230
  • - So that when I come back for eternity,
  • 00:52:51.230 --> 00:52:54.130
  • I have a armload of faith to give you
  • 00:52:54.130 --> 00:52:59.010
  • and praise to give you.
  • 00:52:59.010 --> 00:53:01.010
  • And that's the only thing that was asked of me from God.
  • 00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:06.010
  • That was all he wanted
  • 00:53:06.230 --> 00:53:08.060
  • was the time that I stood in faith and strong.
  • 00:53:08.060 --> 00:53:10.290
  • - That's what you're talking about tonight,
  • 00:53:10.290 --> 00:53:12.240
  • to redefine a time and to speak who it is
  • 00:53:12.240 --> 00:53:17.240
  • so that you get through this to accomplish something.
  • 00:53:19.060 --> 00:53:20.170
  • - So what if we do that?
  • 00:53:20.170 --> 00:53:22.200
  • I mean so that the glory and the praise
  • 00:53:22.200 --> 00:53:25.150
  • that when he does come,
  • 00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:26.280
  • I'd never put that Scripture with that experience.
  • 00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:30.180
  • I was reading today it was going...
  • 00:53:31.220 --> 00:53:33.260
  • That's that scripture he's written,
  • 00:53:33.260 --> 00:53:36.080
  • you've written the scripture that goes
  • 00:53:36.080 --> 00:53:37.220
  • with what I experienced.
  • 00:53:37.220 --> 00:53:39.220
  • - Peter makes a statement and he says,
  • 00:53:39.220 --> 00:53:41.220
  • "As Christ suffered for us in the flesh,
  • 00:53:41.220 --> 00:53:43.260
  • "arm yourselves also with the same mind,
  • 00:53:43.260 --> 00:53:45.280
  • "for he who suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin."
  • 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.210
  • That is such a loaded script.
  • 00:53:48.210 --> 00:53:50.160
  • - Wow.
  • 00:53:50.160 --> 00:53:51.190
  • - He who has suffered in the flesh
  • 00:53:51.190 --> 00:53:52.240
  • has ceased from living a selfish life
  • 00:53:52.240 --> 00:53:54.200
  • is what he's saying, right?
  • 00:53:54.200 --> 00:53:56.000
  • What really gets my attention is
  • 00:53:57.020 --> 00:53:59.070
  • as Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves.
  • 00:53:59.070 --> 00:54:03.020
  • Can you imagine a military going to a battle with no guns,
  • 00:54:03.020 --> 00:54:07.120
  • no knives, no bullets, no tanks, no planes,
  • 00:54:07.120 --> 00:54:11.070
  • it'd be ridiculous they'd be defeated in a day.
  • 00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:14.250
  • Yet so many Christians are not armed.
  • 00:54:15.270 --> 00:54:18.200
  • When the wilderness hits,
  • 00:54:18.200 --> 00:54:21.120
  • when adversity hits
  • 00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:22.230
  • are they going into a state of shock,
  • 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.150
  • a state of bewilderment,
  • 00:54:25.150 --> 00:54:27.010
  • a state of amazement and they react instead of act.
  • 00:54:27.010 --> 00:54:30.050
  • - Wow.
  • 00:54:30.050 --> 00:54:31.000
  • - Okay. Now who's armed?
  • 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:32.280
  • Let's talk about somebody who's armed,
  • 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:34.210
  • first person that comes to mind
  • 00:54:34.210 --> 00:54:35.270
  • when I think of somebody who's armed
  • 00:54:35.270 --> 00:54:36.250
  • is commercial airline pilot.
  • 00:54:36.250 --> 00:54:38.070
  • Every six months,
  • 00:54:39.030 --> 00:54:40.080
  • they have to go through recurrent training.
  • 00:54:40.080 --> 00:54:41.190
  • They put them into a simulator.
  • 00:54:41.190 --> 00:54:43.120
  • I've literally talked to simulator operators
  • 00:54:43.120 --> 00:54:45.070
  • and they look at me with sadistic smiles and say,
  • 00:54:45.070 --> 00:54:47.010
  • "We throw so much junk at those guys.
  • 00:54:47.010 --> 00:54:48.280
  • "We throw everything at them.
  • 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.170
  • "They could possibly go wrong historically
  • 00:54:50.170 --> 00:54:53.100
  • "that we know with a plane
  • 00:54:53.100 --> 00:54:54.250
  • "and they may crash a time or two,
  • 00:54:54.250 --> 00:54:56.230
  • "but then they get it."
  • 00:54:56.230 --> 00:54:58.040
  • So there was actually a black box recording
  • 00:54:58.040 --> 00:55:00.040
  • back in the days before 2001,
  • 00:55:00.040 --> 00:55:02.270
  • where a plane crashed.
  • 00:55:02.270 --> 00:55:04.080
  • And it was one of the smaller planes that
  • 00:55:04.080 --> 00:55:06.010
  • didn't have a door between the pilots and the passengers.
  • 00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:08.290
  • When the catastrophe hit the pilot was like,
  • 00:55:08.290 --> 00:55:10.260
  • "Feather the engines."
  • 00:55:10.260 --> 00:55:11.260
  • Co-pilot, "Check."
  • 00:55:11.260 --> 00:55:12.290
  • "Pull up the landing gear."
  • 00:55:12.290 --> 00:55:13.230
  • "Check."
  • 00:55:13.230 --> 00:55:14.180
  • "Do this."
  • 00:55:14.180 --> 00:55:15.130
  • "Check."
  • 00:55:15.130 --> 00:55:16.110
  • They could hear the passengers
  • 00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:17.090
  • they were screaming in hysteria.
  • 00:55:17.090 --> 00:55:18.250
  • The pilots were armed.
  • 00:55:18.250 --> 00:55:20.010
  • The passengers were unarmed.
  • 00:55:20.010 --> 00:55:21.260
  • Many aviation disasters have been averted
  • 00:55:21.260 --> 00:55:24.180
  • because of arming those pilots.
  • 00:55:24.180 --> 00:55:26.160
  • The guy who saved it in the Hudson River, remember?
  • 00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:30.000
  • Okay, what we're doing tonight with our friends
  • 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.150
  • is we're arming them.
  • 00:55:33.150 --> 00:55:34.170
  • - Thank you, Lord.
  • 00:55:34.170 --> 00:55:35.150
  • - By us talking about this,
  • 00:55:35.150 --> 00:55:36.170
  • by what you just shared.
  • 00:55:36.170 --> 00:55:37.190
  • That profoundly strengthened me
  • 00:55:37.190 --> 00:55:40.110
  • to think even more.
  • 00:55:40.110 --> 00:55:41.180
  • I mean, I literally when I faced dark moments,
  • 00:55:41.180 --> 00:55:43.240
  • I'll remember this vision that God gave you
  • 00:55:43.240 --> 00:55:46.000
  • to share with the world.
  • 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:47.160
  • It will strengthen all of us.
  • 00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:49.290
  • And that's what we're doing.
  • 00:55:49.290 --> 00:55:50.250
  • We're arming you tonight
  • 00:55:50.250 --> 00:55:52.070
  • so that you correctly handle, you're like the pilot
  • 00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:55.220
  • you're not reacting you're acting.
  • 00:55:55.220 --> 00:55:58.050
  • - Yeah. So good.
  • 00:55:58.050 --> 00:55:59.160
  • - God Where are You?!
  • 00:55:59.160 --> 00:56:01.050
  • John, we've got just a minute or two,
  • 00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:04.270
  • I want to get your kind of final thought on this
  • 00:56:04.270 --> 00:56:07.080
  • but I'm just telling you that
  • 00:56:07.080 --> 00:56:08.210
  • this subject- - Survival tips.
  • 00:56:10.010 --> 00:56:12.180
  • - Came at the right time,
  • 00:56:12.180 --> 00:56:15.060
  • for many viewing pick up the phone get this book,
  • 00:56:15.060 --> 00:56:18.280
  • get it for someone.
  • 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.060
  • We all have been through this
  • 00:56:20.060 --> 00:56:25.010
  • and what is so important
  • 00:56:25.010 --> 00:56:27.180
  • for me to think about tonight is that
  • 00:56:27.180 --> 00:56:30.040
  • you can think about a wilderness experience
  • 00:56:30.040 --> 00:56:32.100
  • not as a correction but a preparation.
  • 00:56:32.100 --> 00:56:35.010
  • And don't complain.
  • 00:56:35.010 --> 00:56:37.290
  • Kind of your final thoughts John,
  • 00:56:37.290 --> 00:56:39.050
  • just last few seconds or-
  • 00:56:39.050 --> 00:56:40.180
  • - Final thoughts are I'm excited
  • 00:56:40.180 --> 00:56:42.170
  • for what God has planned for your life
  • 00:56:42.170 --> 00:56:44.270
  • because it's unique to you.
  • 00:56:44.270 --> 00:56:46.270
  • It's unique in the sense that it will impact people
  • 00:56:46.270 --> 00:56:50.040
  • that you never could have impacted
  • 00:56:50.040 --> 00:56:51.160
  • had you not gone through this time
  • 00:56:51.160 --> 00:56:53.280
  • and allowed God to do the work in you that he wanted to do.
  • 00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:56.170
  • So many will thank you in eternity
  • 00:56:56.170 --> 00:56:58.280
  • for you going through that preparation time successfully.
  • 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.150
  • - Finding Strength and Purpose in your Wilderness
  • 00:57:02.150 --> 00:57:05.140
  • is the subtitle of God Where are You?!
  • 00:57:05.140 --> 00:57:07.120
  • It is our offer right here right now.
  • 00:57:07.120 --> 00:57:09.050
  • John Bevere, thank you so much for being with us.
  • 00:57:09.050 --> 00:57:11.050
  • - It's been a pleasure. We'll see you next time.
  • 00:57:11.050 --> 00:57:13.010
  • Call the number right now.
  • 00:57:13.010 --> 00:57:14.120
  • (applause)
  • 00:57:14.120 --> 00:57:16.200