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Praise | Jackie Hill Perry | March 10, 2020

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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Announcer] Tonight on"Praise," from Los Angeles,
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  • writer, poet, and hip hop artist
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  • Jackie Hill Perry.
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  • And now, Matt and Laurie Crouch.
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  • (audience cheering)
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  • - Beautiful SouthernCalifornia today.
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  • Jackie Hill Perry,
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  • what are we unpackingfor the next one hour?
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  • - Yeah, the book of Jude.
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  • It tends to be ignored.
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  • We treat it like thestepbrother that nobody likes,
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  • with pimples on his face,
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  • but God gave us this book 'causehe gave us his Scriptures.
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  • It's right before thebook of Revelation.
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  • Super-tiny, it's only 25 verses.
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  • That might be why it'sunappealing to us.
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  • We tend to lean on thePsalms for our encouragement,
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  • which is a good thing,
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  • but I think Judehas a lot to say
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  • about the things that we dealwith as Christians in 2020.
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  • One of the primary thingsthat Jude wants to deal with
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  • is contending for the faith.
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  • To contend is to fight.
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  • The faith is not thesubjective experience of,
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  • "Oh I have faith in Jesus,"
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  • the faith being theessentials of the Gospel,
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  • that Jesus is Lord,that Jesus is God,
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  • that there is asuch thing as sin,
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  • that Jesus died for sin,
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  • that grace is not anexcuse to sin against God,
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  • that God will return,
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  • essential things,
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  • and Jude writes thisletter to these people
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  • saying, "Hey, I wanted towrite y'all something else,
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  • "but I think that it's actuallynecessary to challenge you
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  • "to start contending forthe essentials of the faith
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  • "because God's glorydepends on it."
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  • - Okay, (chuckles) I love her.
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  • (Laurie and Matt laughing)
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  • I have loved her sincethe moment I met her,
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  • and the first timeI ever heard Jackie,
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  • she didn't havethat long to speak,
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  • and she started talkingabout the book of Jude,
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  • you know, and it's true.
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  • Everything she just said istrue about the book of Jude.
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  • You just kinda breeze over it
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  • to get to Revelationsif you dare,
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  • and oh my Lord,
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  • tears just started streaming
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  • out of my face,
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  • and she's got a brand-newBible study on the book of Jude
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  • that I recommend toeverybody to get it,
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  • but everything Jude talks about
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  • is so relevant to now.- Yeah, yeah,
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  • 'cause what made mewanna write the study
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  • is that I alwaysloved the doxology:
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  • "Now, to him who is ableto keep you from stumbling
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  • "and to present you faultlessbefore his glorious presence
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  • "with great joy to theonly God, our Savior,
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  • "through Jesus Christ our Lord,
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  • "be glory, majesty,dominion, and authority,"
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  • amen, amen, right?- Amen, amen.
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  • (audience applauding)- But my question, (chuckles)
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  • my question waswhat preceded that?
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  • Why do we end there?
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  • Why would you end on praise?
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  • What is the point of the letter?
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  • And I think,
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  • when you start to talk aboutcontending for the faith,
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  • really, Jude is challengingto contend with your friends,
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  • to contend with your pastors,
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  • to contend with yourBible study leaders,
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  • people of influenceand prominence
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  • that might have wentin the seminary,
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  • but it doesn't meanthat they know Jesus,
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  • and so that's the tension
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  • where you have these peoplethat are very intelligent,
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  • and very smart, that Irespect, that have influence,
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  • that may be teachingthings that are unbiblical,
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  • and so the challenge orthe discouragement can come
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  • where it says
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  • if they can fall away from thefaith, what hope do I have?
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  • And so I think Judewants to, then, end it
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  • by saying, "No, now to himwho is able to keep you."
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  • "It won't be what youknow that keeps you.
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  • "It'll be who you knowthat keeps you," so.
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  • (audience applauding)- Okay, this,
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  • you know, I have to admit
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  • I have a kind of a soft spotin my heart for this book
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  • because, you know,
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  • when you're learning thebook of the Bible song?
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  • You know, you go, thirdJohn, Jude, and Revelation,
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  • you know, that whole thing,
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  • I always just rememberthat when you hit Jude,
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  • you're basically--
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  • - Almost done. (laughs)- almost done,
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  • So there's this really--
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  • - Elation.- familiar kind of
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  • sweet kind of feeling,
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  • but really, what Judeis doing is sending out
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  • what he feels iskind of a yellow flag
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  • or red flag warning,
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  • so this book
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  • was written contextuallyas a warning
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  • about doctrinethat was shifting--
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  • - Going unnoticed.- or moving.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Off camera, it feels likethis book was written for 2020,
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  • and that this Bible study,
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  • which just go to Amazonor wherever and get it,
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  • but let's start with Jude's day.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - What do you feel
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  • he was waving thisyellow or red flag
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  • in regard to,specifically, then?
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  • - Yeah, well,
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  • if you look at verse three,
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  • he calls them friends,
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  • and he says, "Hey, I wasvery eager to write to you
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  • "about our common salvation."
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  • Common salvation being thesalvation that we all share,
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  • which is a really noblething to write about.
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  • Who doesn't wannawrite about salvation?
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  • Who doesn't wanna write about
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  • what Jesus has done for us all?
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  • That Jesus has made a way
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  • for people to be savedfrom the wrath of God,
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  • but he actually sees
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  • that there is a morenecessary thing to talk about,
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  • which is that there arepeople in the church,
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  • specifically him.
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  • He says that there arepeople in the church
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  • who are unnoticed,
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  • who are perverting the graceof our God into licentiousness,
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  • which is to say that thereare people in your church,
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  • in your midst,
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  • that you don't see,
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  • that are teaching you thatbecause God is so gracious,
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  • you have the freedom to sinin whatever way that you want,
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  • but in Titus, we alreadyknow that God's grace
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  • actually teaches us tosay no to ungodliness.
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  • There is no way thatyou have come in contact
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  • with the lavish grace of God,
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  • and that you can thenturn your back on him.
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  • To me, that says youdon't actually know him.
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  • - [Matt] Wow.(audience murmuring)
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  • - To know him, andto know his love,
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  • and to know his grace,and to know his mercy
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  • means that I am desperate
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  • to actually pleasehim as best I can,
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  • and so I think what Judeis attacking in his context
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  • is so much similar to whatwe're dealing with now.
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  • - What Jesus said tothe lady in adultery,
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  • "Where are your accusers?"
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Okay, so no one'saccusing you anymore.
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  • Go and sin no more.
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  • - Mm-hmm, grace doesn't just
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  • eliminate the penaltyof sin, right?
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  • Because she shouldhave been stoned.
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  • The law says that allsin deserves death,
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  • so what thePharisees were saying
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  • was actually aright understanding
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  • of what her penalty should be,
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  • but when he says,"Go and sin no more,"
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  • he not only removes the penalty,
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  • but he empowers her
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  • to actually not walkin the same way, right?
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - And so we see thatgrace removes penalty
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  • and empowers you todo the impossible,
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  • which is to live holy.
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  • - Gives you the ability 'causehe wouldn't have said that.
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  • - Absolutely not, orit would be unfair.
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  • Go and sin no more: how?
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  • "Because I'm gonna die.
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  • "I'm gonna send myspirit to help you."
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  • - [Laurie] Mm.
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  • - So.
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  • - So good.
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  • - I know, isn't it great?- So good.
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  • (audience laughs)
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  • Thank you, Jesus. (laughs)
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  • - This book andthis Bible study,
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  • you're gonna make itmore famous than it was.
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  • You know, you've writtena Bible study on it.
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  • We're talking about it.
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  • We want this known and loved,
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  • this little book.
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  • What do you think it'saddressing, specifically, today?
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  • - Today, a lot.
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  • I think, one, being
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  • though God's gracemay not be heralded
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  • as the reason that weshould have autonomy,
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  • I think God's love is.
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  • I think we havemischaracterized God
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  • to think that because he islove, it makes him passive,
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  • but God is holy love,
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  • and so because he is holy love,
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  • his love demands thatwe respond to him
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  • in the way that he deserves,which is to be loved back.
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  • - So it is the book of Jude
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  • that we are unpackingfor this entire one hour.
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  • Jackie Hill Perry, get toknow her a little bit more.
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  • We put this littlebio piece together.
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  • Watch this.
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  • - Imagine my surprise
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  • when I was told to dosomething that I've never done.
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  • There I was.
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  • I was a victim of sexual abuse.
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  • (anxious music)
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  • - [Narrator] Jackie HillPerry is a poet, a writer,
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  • a hip-hop artist fromSt. Louis, Missouri.
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  • Jackie grew up in afatherless household,
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  • and experienced sexualabuse at the age of five.
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  • - [Jackie]Consequences of abuse,
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  • like fear, andshame, and control
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  • dominated my days.
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  • I was molested and violated
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  • by an image-bearer whodid not see me as one.
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  • - [Narrator] Although shewas exposed to church,
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  • and had a knowledge of God,
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  • her encounter with sexual abuse,
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  • combined with school bullying
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  • and a lack of attention fromboys led her to a darker place,
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  • a struggle with gender identity,
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  • a fascination withimitating men,
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  • and a pursuit ofrelationships with women.
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  • - [Jackie] It felt natural.
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  • This is what I want.
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  • Gay clubs, gay pride parades.
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  • I was having fun,
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  • but a deep soul satisfaction,I didn't have that.
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  • - [Narrator] Then Jackiegave her heart to God
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  • and turned away fromher previous lifestyle.
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  • - [Jackie] I had a auntwho was a believer,
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  • and took me to church everySunday till I was around 10.
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  • Her life, and all that Ilearned in Sunday School
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  • is what God used tokeep my conscience soft.
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  • - [Narrator] So whereis Jackie today?
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  • You'll find this hip-hopartist rapping to another tune,
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  • and using her giftsto speak, teach,
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  • and share the lightof the Gospel.
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  • - Jesus is healing me,
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  • and Jesus will heal me.
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  • It is a alreadyand not yet reality
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  • that has made mydays much brighter.
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  • What has happened to me, or us,
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  • won't hurt forever.
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  • Trauma will nothave the final say.
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  • Jesus will.
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • - First of all, the book of Jude
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  • is what you're
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  • what we're breaking downfor this entire one hour.
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  • You gotta talk forabout 40 minutes now,
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  • so I just want you to--
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  • - Oh, by myself?- I mean,
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  • I mean, it's not like--- No.
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  • - It's not like we're
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  • we're not going anywhere,
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  • but we wanna startwalking through this
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  • the way that youknow how to do it.
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  • - Well, I mean,
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  • one of the interestingthings about this book
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  • is how initially,
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  • remember, he says that thesepeople are going unnoticed.
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  • That's significant
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  • because it's sayingthat you have Christians
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  • who are not seeing it.
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  • They have the Holy Spirit.
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  • They got the Word.
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  • They got friends thatthey could talk about,
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  • but they're seeingeverything but this,
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  • and so I think whatJude wants to do
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  • is actually givethem eyes to see,
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  • and the way he does it
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  • is that he takes themthrough the Old Testament.
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  • That's one of myfavorite parts about Jude
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  • is that to read Jude
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  • you actually have to goback to the Old Testament.
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  • You won't understand what he'stalking about if you don't.
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  • He references people like Cain,
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  • Korah, Egypt, Balaam.
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  • He talks about Michael thearchangel and the devil
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  • fighting over the body of Moses,which don't make no sense.
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  • It's weird.
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  • Why are theyfighting over bodies?
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  • I don't understand that,
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  • which could be a deterrent
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  • to studying this book,
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  • but one of the things that Iwanted to press people into
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  • when it came to this study
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  • is just because Biblestudy is difficult
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  • doesn't make it impossible.
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  • There is some beauty
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  • that you can pull out ofa text when you sit in it.
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  • One of the things hesays is that though,
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  • That's harsh, but whathe's trying to say
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  • is God has given us examples
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  • after example after example
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  • that ungodliness willnot go unnoticed.
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  • You might not noticeit, but God does,
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  • and so what that does,
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  • I think it should give youan urgency and a compassion.
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  • Urgency because it says, (sighs)
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  • the people in myworld, in my context,
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  • that are teaching,and believing,
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  • and living things thatare anti-Gospel, anti-God,
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  • God will deal with it one day.
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  • That doesn't, it shouldn'tmake me feel self-righteous
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  • that there are people aroundme that are going to hell.
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  • It shouldn't do that.
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  • It should make me compassionate.
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  • It should make me say, "Idon't want you to be destroyed
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  • "in the same way that Sodomand Gomorrah was destroyed.
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  • "I don't want you tobe like the angels
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  • "who are being kept ineternal chains and darkness.
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  • "I want you to be likeJesus, who was always free,
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  • "who never had to worryabout the judgment of God
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  • "because he loved his God."
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  • Another thing he does, he saysthat in the very same way,
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  • That's interestingbecause you think,
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  • "What dreams gotto do with this?
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  • "I have dreams all the time,"
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  • but if you rememberin the Old Testament,
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  • dreams wereoftentimes prophetic.
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  • You have Joseph, who had dreams.
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  • You have Abraham,who had dreams,
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  • and so what thesepeople are doing
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  • is that they'reusing their dreams
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  • or their prophetic visions
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  • as reason for why theyshould be believed
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  • over the Scriptures.
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  • We see that a lot.- Yeah.
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  • - Wow.- People will say,
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  • "Ah, I heard God tell me this.
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  • "I had a dream about this,"
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  • and it's just like
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  • if that prophetic word don'tmatch up with the Word,
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  • I can't believe it.
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  • - [Laurie] Right.
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  • - I can't listen to it.(audience applauding)
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  • - Yeah.- So good, yeah.
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  • - Another thing he saysthat's really significant
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  • is that he talks about Michaelthe archangel, which I said,
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  • disputing with the devilabout the body of Moses,
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  • again, feels pointless,feels irrelevant.
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  • Why are we talking about this?
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  • But he also sayssomething really huge.
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  • so this is what happening.
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  • I guess Moses drops dead.
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  • (audience laughing)The devil (laughs)
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  • you know, he looked over andhe saw the Promised Land.
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  • He said, "I can't go there."
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  • Then he dies, and then thedevil comes out of nowhere.
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  • Don't know if he wasa snake or an angel.
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  • Here we go, andMichael and the devil
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  • start to have an argumentabout the body of Moses.
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  • Michael, though,
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  • he is a huge angel,
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  • and I don't mean in size;I mean in authority.
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  • He is literally theleading head angel,
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  • but he does nottake it upon himself
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  • to rebuke the devilwith his own authority.
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  • He says, "The Lordrebuke you," right?
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  • Why does that matter?
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  • Because sometimes we forget
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  • that we are not the finalauthority in this world.
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • I get it, I get it.
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  • We wanna rebuke the devil, butwe don't have any authority.
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  • We don't have any power.
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  • The Lord does, and so whathe's trying to emphasize
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  • is that even ifMichael the archangel,
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  • who was in the presence of God,
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  • does not take his ownauthority to rebuke the devil,
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  • neither should I.
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  • I should be a person
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  • who lives in constant subjectionand submission to God,
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  • the final authority.
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  • This is a heart posture.
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  • We, as created beings,
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  • it makes usautomatically subject
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  • to the all-authoritativenature of God.
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  • We don't have all thepower that we want to have,
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  • and it's egotistical sometimes.
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  • Sometimes we want to feel likewe have all this authority,
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  • but I think whenyou remind yourself
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  • that God's authority is perfect.
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  • It is wise.
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  • It is good.
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  • It is continual.
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  • It means that tosubmit to his authority
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  • is actually the safestplace in the world,
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  • and so it makes you free
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  • (audience applauding)- you know?
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  • So in the body of the letter,
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  • those are some of theexamples that Jude is using
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  • to give us some type of fruit
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  • to be able to compare tothe people in our midst,
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  • so if we are surrounded bypeople who don't like authority,
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  • if we are surrounded by people
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  • who are teachingthat God is love,
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  • therefore you have the rightto do whatever you want to do,
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  • if we are surroundedby people like Balaam,
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  • who he also references,
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  • Balaam was willingto teach wrong things
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  • because he wanted money.
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  • It may not be money, butit might be followers.
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  • It might be status.
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  • It might befriendships, you know?
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  • It might be channels.
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  • I don't know.
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  • If we are surrounded by peoplewho do these kinds of things,
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  • then those are the people
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  • that we need to beconcerned about.
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  • - Okay, contendingfor the faith.
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  • - Yeah, hard.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Difficult.
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  • To contend is to fight.
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  • He's calling to mind
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  • wrestlers.
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  • You know, when you'rewrestling with somebody,
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  • I don't wrestle;that'd mess my hair up,
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  • but(audience laughing)
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  • And I'll lose.- He wrestled.
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  • - They'll grab myhair, you know.
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  • Girls just do that inthe world, but anyway.
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  • When you're wrestling withsomebody, it's strategic.
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  • One, you're lookingat their body posture.
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  • You're looking at theirarms and their legs,
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  • and seeing wherethey're gonna go.
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  • You're holding tight.
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  • You're gripping.
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  • It could be a task ofendurance sometimes.
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  • Wrestling is not a quickthing to win or to lose.
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  • It takes time.
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  • It takes effort.
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  • It takes energy, andit might hurt you.
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  • It might be painful,
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  • and so I think when he saysto contend for the faith,
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  • he's saying, "Hey, todefend these doctrines,
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  • "it's gonna takesome endurance."
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  • It might hurt a little bit.
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  • It's gonna take a little time
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  • for you to be willing tosit down with a friend
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  • and say, "Hey, I know thatwhat you believe feels true,
  • 00:17:43.886 --> 00:17:48.357
  • "and it seems to lineup with your sentiments,
  • 00:17:48.357 --> 00:17:50.993
  • "but I have to pushback against that.
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  • "I have to because theglory of God is at stake.
  • 00:17:52.928 --> 00:17:56.198
  • "I know you might be my sister.
  • 00:17:56.198 --> 00:17:58.667
  • "I know you might be my friend.
  • 00:17:58.667 --> 00:18:00.135
  • "I know you might be my pastor,
  • 00:18:00.135 --> 00:18:02.037
  • "but what I'm seeing in the text
  • 00:18:02.037 --> 00:18:03.939
  • "is not lining up withwhat you're preaching,
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  • "and I'm willing to wrestlewith you through this
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  • "for a long time if I haveto, but I have to do it,"
  • 00:18:08.243 --> 00:18:11.113
  • and so that's ultimatelywhat he's saying
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  • is that the faith isworth fighting for.
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  • Now we have to
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • There's a,
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  • thank you.
  • 00:18:21.857 --> 00:18:22.691
  • There's a lot of people whohave taken this verse wrong.
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  • They have contended for thefaith in a way that is ungodly.
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  • We've seen these kinds of people
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  • outside of gay pride paradessaying that God hates gays.
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  • We've met them onuniversity campuses,
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  • and they talk about Jesus,
  • 00:18:39.875 --> 00:18:41.743
  • but they're more hatefulthan the Pharisees.
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  • - Right.- Wow.
  • 00:18:43.478 --> 00:18:44.546
  • - And contending for the faith
  • 00:18:44.546 --> 00:18:46.481
  • doesn't mean fightpeople about the faith.
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  • - [Laurie] Right.
  • 00:18:48.450 --> 00:18:49.284
  • - We fight for
  • 00:18:49.284 --> 00:18:50.452
  • the faith, right?- For the faith, mm-hmm.
  • 00:18:50.452 --> 00:18:52.020
  • - And I think one ofthe challenging things
  • 00:18:52.020 --> 00:18:55.591
  • when contending for the faith
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  • is that to do it in away that would honor God,
  • 00:18:57.059 --> 00:18:59.294
  • we need the spirit.
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  • When you think about contendingfor the faith by the spirit,
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  • that means that whenI contend for you
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  • I'm kind, I'mjoyful, I'm patient,
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  • I have self-control, I'm gentle.
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  • Those are fruits ofthe spirit, right?
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  • If we saw more Christians
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  • contending for thefaith like that,
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  • we would see more Christians.
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  • - Yep.- Absolutely.
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • Absolutely.
  • 00:19:19.114 --> 00:19:20.048
  • - I think we have towrestle within us.
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  • What is it in us thathelps us or keeps us
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  • from contending forthe faith in that way?
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  • Sometimes we're just tired.
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  • I'm tired of talkingabout the same thing.
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  • Why won't you just repent?
  • 00:19:34.896 --> 00:19:36.565
  • I'm tired of dealing with this.
  • 00:19:36.565 --> 00:19:38.367
  • Why won't you just change?
  • 00:19:38.367 --> 00:19:40.102
  • But you don't changepeople with your words.
  • 00:19:40.102 --> 00:19:42.404
  • Your words is the meansby which the grace of God
  • 00:19:42.404 --> 00:19:44.573
  • changes the heartsof a person, right?
  • 00:19:44.573 --> 00:19:46.375
  • And we don't know God's timeline
  • 00:19:46.375 --> 00:19:48.143
  • for the salvationof our friends.
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  • We don't know God's timeline
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  • for the salvationof our country.
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  • We don't know.
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  • Sometimes God ispreparing a testimony
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  • in the people thatwe are connected to.
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  • Sometimes God needs them
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  • to not be saved foranother 10 years
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  • because he has something to dowhen he saves them, you know?
  • 00:20:01.023 --> 00:20:04.526
  • And so I think wrestling andfiguring out what is it in me
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  • that keeps me from doing this
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  • in the way that would notonly be doctrinally sound,
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  • but also
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  • integral, you know?
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  • - Is there a personal experience
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  • with a friend orsomebody that you know
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  • that you've had to endure
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  • a long wrestling season
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  • in regard to a subjectand that, you know,
  • 00:20:29.985 --> 00:20:32.621
  • and don't make it aboutyour husband right now
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  • (Laurie laughs)so let's not do that yet.
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  • (audience laughing)- Aw, Preston.
  • 00:20:37.192 --> 00:20:38.160
  • - He contends for the faith
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  • better than all of us.- Love you, yeah.
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  • I got you, 'kay?
  • 00:20:40.629 --> 00:20:42.164
  • So basically, butis there an example,
  • 00:20:42.164 --> 00:20:45.867
  • a category you canhelp us walk through
  • 00:20:45.867 --> 00:20:48.904
  • that you can--
  • 00:20:48.904 --> 00:20:50.205
  • - You can actually--- give us an example.
  • 00:20:51.406 --> 00:20:52.240
  • - talk about on TV.
  • 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.208
  • - Yeah, I won't say no names.
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  • We still contending.
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  • I think there's oneperson in particular
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  • where I've learned patience
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  • because even now
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  • I still have thiswrestle with God
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  • where it's like, "Lord,they've heard the Gospel."
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  • I've said it.
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  • People have said it.
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  • I keep praying.
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  • I've been prayingmore than a decade,
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  • and I don't see any fruit.
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  • I know you are not
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  • your arm is nottoo short to save,
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  • but it seems likeyou saving everybody
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  • but the people thatI'm praying for,
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  • but part of mycontending for them
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  • is identifying those things
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  • that are stumblingblocks to faith, okay?
  • 00:21:35.584 --> 00:21:38.620
  • So you have some people
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  • who may not havegrown up in church,
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  • and one of the stumblingblocks to faith
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  • is the Christians thatthey've seen in their midst
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  • who don't seem to live acertain kinda way, right?
  • 00:21:50.399 --> 00:21:53.735
  • And I say it's astumbling block to faith
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  • because to them hypocrisyproves that Jesus
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  • is actually not powerful enoughto change the person, right?
  • 00:21:58.273 --> 00:22:01.276
  • Why would I believe somebodythat hasn't changed you?
  • 00:22:01.276 --> 00:22:04.413
  • And so part of me identifying
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  • is actually saying, "I get it.
  • 00:22:06.481 --> 00:22:08.550
  • "You've had some reallybad examples of Christians,
  • 00:22:08.550 --> 00:22:10.852
  • "but you haven't hadbad examples of Christ.
  • 00:22:10.852 --> 00:22:13.488
  • "When you read the Bible,
  • 00:22:13.488 --> 00:22:15.490
  • "there is no indictmentthat you can have
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  • "on him as a person,"
  • 00:22:17.225 --> 00:22:18.660
  • and so we don't wannastand before God
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  • and say, "God, but yourpeople, but your people,"
  • 00:22:20.262 --> 00:22:22.197
  • and he'll say, "Butwhat about me?"
  • 00:22:22.197 --> 00:22:24.199
  • And so part of myeffort in contending
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  • is to just talk about Jesus.
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  • Let's not talk aboutall these other people.
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  • Let's even stop talkingabout all these doctrines.
  • 00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:32.474
  • Let's talk aboutthe person of God.
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  • I think that's part of it.
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  • (audience applauding)Another part,
  • 00:22:36.645 --> 00:22:38.513
  • another wrestle is being willingto answer their questions
  • 00:22:40.582 --> 00:22:44.553
  • no matter how hard it is,
  • 00:22:44.553 --> 00:22:46.054
  • and even if I don'tknow the answer,
  • 00:22:46.054 --> 00:22:47.789
  • begin humble enough to say,"I don't know the answer,
  • 00:22:47.789 --> 00:22:50.425
  • (laughs) "but let'sfigure it out together."
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  • I think non-Christiansneed to see
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  • that Christiansdon't know everything
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  • just because they serve aGod that does, you know?
  • 00:22:57.032 --> 00:22:59.935
  • They need to see humility in us,
  • 00:22:59.935 --> 00:23:01.803
  • and so justdiscerning, and seeing,
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  • and doing the studythat I need to do
  • 00:23:04.306 --> 00:23:06.341
  • so that I'll be able tobe available for them,
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  • and serve them in that way,
  • 00:23:08.176 --> 00:23:09.444
  • and so contendingis very intimate.
  • 00:23:09.444 --> 00:23:11.112
  • It's very personal.
  • 00:23:11.112 --> 00:23:12.581
  • This isn't just let me justtell you the truth all the time.
  • 00:23:12.581 --> 00:23:15.150
  • It's actually letme walk with you,
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  • let me serve you,let me love you,
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  • and then, when conversationneed to be had, let's have them.
  • 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.524
  • - So shouting truthacross a street--
  • 00:23:22.524 --> 00:23:25.360
  • - It's not it.- It's not it.
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  • - is exactly not whatyou're talking about.
  • 00:23:26.628 --> 00:23:28.763
  • - God could use it.
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  • He'll use anything,
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  • but that's not how I wouldabecome a Christian, you know?
  • 00:23:31.666 --> 00:23:35.770
  • - Right.
  • 00:23:35.770 --> 00:23:36.605
  • - But I get it.
  • 00:23:36.605 --> 00:23:37.873
  • I think shouting iseasier than loving.
  • 00:23:37.873 --> 00:23:41.843
  • (audience murmurs)- Yeah.
  • 00:23:41.843 --> 00:23:43.011
  • - It is.
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  • Love is the fruit of the spirit,
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  • which tells me that Ican't do it naturally.
  • 00:23:45.614 --> 00:23:49.484
  • I need a supernaturalpower to actually love
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  • in the way that Godhas called me to,
  • 00:23:53.421 --> 00:23:54.956
  • and it's actually, it'snot only easier to shout,
  • 00:23:54.956 --> 00:23:58.360
  • but it makes us feelbetter about ourselves.
  • 00:23:58.360 --> 00:24:00.529
  • It's some type of weird--- Feels better.
  • 00:24:00.529 --> 00:24:02.497
  • - Yeah, it just
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  • it's some type of weirdmeanie thing inside of us
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  • where we are unwillingto serve people.
  • 00:24:07.302 --> 00:24:09.771
  • Jesus said, "The greatest inthe kingdom is servant of all."
  • 00:24:09.771 --> 00:24:13.542
  • We have God in the flesh
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  • putting on aprons andwashing people's feet,
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  • and he says, "If you wanna begreat, that's how you do it,"
  • 00:24:18.914 --> 00:24:22.150
  • and so that's part of this is
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  • how is my knowledgeof the Scripture
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  • and my love for God
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  • making me a better servant?
  • 00:24:28.290 --> 00:24:29.791
  • Not preacher, butservant, you know?
  • 00:24:29.791 --> 00:24:32.360
  • And I think if we did thatmore, things would be easier.
  • 00:24:32.360 --> 00:24:36.097
  • - Okay, move on.
  • 00:24:36.097 --> 00:24:37.098
  • Let's keep going.
  • 00:24:37.098 --> 00:24:38.233
  • - We're almost closed.- Look at you.
  • 00:24:38.233 --> 00:24:39.167
  • - There's only 25 verses.
  • 00:24:39.167 --> 00:24:40.201
  • (all laughing)
  • 00:24:40.201 --> 00:24:42.704
  • - The book of Jude,Jackie Hill Perry,
  • 00:24:42.704 --> 00:24:46.107
  • "Contending For the Faithin Today's Culture."
  • 00:24:46.107 --> 00:24:49.177
  • It's available allsorts of places,
  • 00:24:49.177 --> 00:24:51.613
  • but I'm sure Amazonhas it right now.
  • 00:24:51.613 --> 00:24:53.315
  • Okay, keep going.
  • 00:24:53.315 --> 00:24:54.683
  • - So after he lays outall of these pictures,
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  • of Egypt, of Sodom andGomorrah, of Cain and Abel,
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  • of Michael, of Balaam, of Korah,
  • 00:25:01.990 --> 00:25:05.193
  • he gets very practicaland pragmatic.
  • 00:25:05.193 --> 00:25:09.364
  • We, as Christians,love practical stuff.
  • 00:25:09.364 --> 00:25:11.132
  • How do I pray longerthan 10 minutes?
  • 00:25:11.132 --> 00:25:14.703
  • How do I start a church?
  • 00:25:14.703 --> 00:25:16.037
  • We love thesekinds of questions.
  • 00:25:16.037 --> 00:25:17.739
  • I can't answer none ofthem, but here we are.
  • 00:25:17.739 --> 00:25:19.808
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:25:19.808 --> 00:25:21.576
  • In verse 20 is whenhe gets practical.
  • 00:25:21.576 --> 00:25:24.679
  • Let's walk through that.
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  • Okay, one,
  • 00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:39.961
  • he begins by recallingback to the introduction
  • 00:25:39.961 --> 00:25:43.398
  • by calling them dear friends.
  • 00:25:43.398 --> 00:25:44.866
  • He is writing to peoplethat he knows and he loves.
  • 00:25:44.866 --> 00:25:48.436
  • These are not strangers,and he tells them to,
  • 00:25:48.436 --> 00:25:50.939
  • "Build yourselves up inyour most holy faith."
  • 00:25:50.939 --> 00:25:54.476
  • When you look at Paul's word,
  • 00:25:54.476 --> 00:25:56.411
  • Paul often talks aboutbeing built up as a edifice,
  • 00:25:56.411 --> 00:26:00.415
  • like we are God's temple
  • 00:26:00.415 --> 00:26:01.650
  • where the spirit ofGod will reign, right?
  • 00:26:01.650 --> 00:26:04.052
  • And so to build yourselvesup in the holy faith
  • 00:26:04.052 --> 00:26:06.755
  • is to do all the toolsthat you need to do
  • 00:26:06.755 --> 00:26:09.991
  • to make sure thatyour faith is strong
  • 00:26:09.991 --> 00:26:12.127
  • because I have seen somany people's faiths wane
  • 00:26:12.127 --> 00:26:16.164
  • when the get pushback.
  • 00:26:16.164 --> 00:26:17.632
  • That's why you seeso many people,
  • 00:26:17.632 --> 00:26:18.733
  • when they go to university,
  • 00:26:18.733 --> 00:26:20.135
  • they never had any pushbackagainst their faith,
  • 00:26:20.135 --> 00:26:22.237
  • and now, all of a sudden,
  • 00:26:22.237 --> 00:26:23.471
  • by sophomore yeartheir faith is gone
  • 00:26:23.471 --> 00:26:24.939
  • because they were notbuilding themselves up
  • 00:26:24.939 --> 00:26:26.908
  • in their most holy faith.
  • 00:26:26.908 --> 00:26:28.643
  • How do you do that?
  • 00:26:28.643 --> 00:26:29.844
  • You do that by praying,by talking to Jesus,
  • 00:26:29.844 --> 00:26:32.080
  • by spending time with Jesus.
  • 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:33.481
  • How do you do that?
  • 00:26:33.481 --> 00:26:34.315
  • By reading your Word,
  • 00:26:34.315 --> 00:26:35.583
  • and not only readingit, but applying it.
  • 00:26:35.583 --> 00:26:38.253
  • I remember the womanthat discipled me.
  • 00:26:38.253 --> 00:26:39.921
  • One time I posted a status
  • 00:26:39.921 --> 00:26:41.356
  • about something Isaw in the Bible,
  • 00:26:41.356 --> 00:26:43.058
  • and she said, "Have you evenhad time to apply that yet?"
  • 00:26:43.058 --> 00:26:46.261
  • (Laurie and audience chuckling)
  • 00:26:46.261 --> 00:26:47.295
  • I said, "Nah,
  • 00:26:47.295 --> 00:26:49.164
  • "it sounded good."- Busted.
  • 00:26:49.164 --> 00:26:50.598
  • (all laughing)
  • 00:26:50.598 --> 00:26:52.767
  • - No, but I want to.
  • 00:26:52.767 --> 00:26:54.202
  • - It sounded good.
  • 00:26:54.202 --> 00:26:55.437
  • She said, "You don'twanna get in the habit
  • 00:26:55.437 --> 00:26:57.005
  • "of preaching about whatyou ain't lived yet."
  • 00:26:57.005 --> 00:26:58.873
  • - Ooh.(audience murmuring)
  • 00:26:58.873 --> 00:27:00.141
  • - And so not just(audience applauding)
  • 00:27:00.141 --> 00:27:03.545
  • reading this text,
  • 00:27:03.545 --> 00:27:05.380
  • but begging God tohelp us live this text.
  • 00:27:05.380 --> 00:27:08.283
  • What's another wayto build yourself up
  • 00:27:08.283 --> 00:27:09.951
  • in your most holy faith?
  • 00:27:09.951 --> 00:27:11.119
  • By being in community, huge.
  • 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.557
  • I said this beforeand I'll say it again.
  • 00:27:15.557 --> 00:27:17.759
  • God is by nature a triune God.
  • 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.495
  • God the Father, God the Son,and God the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:27:20.495 --> 00:27:23.498
  • He made us in his image.
  • 00:27:23.498 --> 00:27:25.433
  • We look the least like God
  • 00:27:25.433 --> 00:27:26.901
  • when we separate ourselvesfrom other people.
  • 00:27:26.901 --> 00:27:29.104
  • If God is a community,
  • 00:27:29.104 --> 00:27:32.173
  • what makes you thinkyou look like him
  • 00:27:32.173 --> 00:27:34.075
  • when you don't wantto be in community,
  • 00:27:34.075 --> 00:27:36.444
  • and so one of the waysthat we build ourselves up
  • 00:27:36.444 --> 00:27:39.581
  • is by being with otherbelievers who can empower us,
  • 00:27:39.581 --> 00:27:42.851
  • and pray for us, and love on us,
  • 00:27:42.851 --> 00:27:44.486
  • and challenge us, and exhort us,
  • 00:27:44.486 --> 00:27:46.221
  • and commission us in allthe ways that we need to,
  • 00:27:46.221 --> 00:27:49.090
  • so that's extremely practical.
  • 00:27:49.090 --> 00:27:51.693
  • Another thing he says isto pray in the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:27:51.693 --> 00:27:54.195
  • I know some peoplethink that's tongues.
  • 00:27:54.195 --> 00:27:56.765
  • That's not whathe's talking about.
  • 00:27:56.765 --> 00:27:58.767
  • To pray in the HolySpirit is to say
  • 00:27:58.767 --> 00:28:01.236
  • pray in such a way that theHoly Spirit guides how you pray.
  • 00:28:01.236 --> 00:28:05.740
  • In the same waythat the Holy Spirit
  • 00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:06.741
  • is the God how you live,
  • 00:28:06.741 --> 00:28:08.543
  • let him guide your prayer life,
  • 00:28:08.543 --> 00:28:10.078
  • so a way to gauge if thespirit is in your prayers
  • 00:28:10.078 --> 00:28:13.581
  • is how you pray.
  • 00:28:13.581 --> 00:28:15.049
  • Do you just pray foryourself all the time?
  • 00:28:15.049 --> 00:28:17.752
  • Are they lazy?
  • 00:28:17.752 --> 00:28:19.220
  • Are you zealous?
  • 00:28:19.220 --> 00:28:20.355
  • Are you falling asleep?
  • 00:28:20.355 --> 00:28:21.790
  • Are they compassionate?
  • 00:28:21.790 --> 00:28:23.057
  • Are you prayingfor your enemies?
  • 00:28:23.057 --> 00:28:24.526
  • Are you being honest?
  • 00:28:24.526 --> 00:28:25.760
  • Are you being real?
  • 00:28:25.760 --> 00:28:26.928
  • Are you being God-honoring?
  • 00:28:26.928 --> 00:28:28.963
  • Are you praying for theconcerns of your community?
  • 00:28:28.963 --> 00:28:32.567
  • Your home, your church?
  • 00:28:32.567 --> 00:28:34.202
  • Like, praying in a way
  • 00:28:34.202 --> 00:28:35.637
  • that the Holy Spirithas to be involved,
  • 00:28:35.637 --> 00:28:38.506
  • and you have to do that insubmission to the spirit,
  • 00:28:38.506 --> 00:28:41.342
  • and so I don't go into prayer
  • 00:28:41.342 --> 00:28:42.844
  • feeling like, "Oh, I'vebeen praying long enough.
  • 00:28:42.844 --> 00:28:44.746
  • "I know how to do this."
  • 00:28:44.746 --> 00:28:45.680
  • I'm saying, "God, help me pray
  • 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.816
  • "in a way that would honor you."
  • 00:28:47.816 --> 00:28:49.918
  • That's a prayer, but, "God,be present in my prayers."
  • 00:28:49.918 --> 00:28:54.122
  • He also says, "Keepyourselves in God's love
  • 00:28:54.122 --> 00:28:58.026
  • "as you wait for the mercyof our Lord, Jesus Christ,
  • 00:28:58.026 --> 00:29:00.829
  • "to bring you to eternal life.
  • 00:29:00.829 --> 00:29:02.797
  • This is one of themost complicatedverses that I studied
  • 00:29:02.797 --> 00:29:06.334
  • because I didn'tunderstand what that meant.
  • 00:29:06.334 --> 00:29:09.304
  • To keep myself inthe love of God
  • 00:29:09.304 --> 00:29:11.606
  • can sound likeworks righteousness.
  • 00:29:11.606 --> 00:29:13.274
  • It can sound like, "So amI working for God's love?"
  • 00:29:13.274 --> 00:29:17.312
  • But he's literallyusing the same language
  • 00:29:17.312 --> 00:29:19.447
  • that Jesus used in Paul, uh,not Paul, (chuckles) in John,
  • 00:29:19.447 --> 00:29:22.851
  • when he said,"Abide in my love."
  • 00:29:22.851 --> 00:29:25.353
  • In essence, he's saying,"Make home in my love.
  • 00:29:25.353 --> 00:29:28.423
  • "Stay in my love.
  • 00:29:28.423 --> 00:29:30.124
  • "Sit in my love.
  • 00:29:30.124 --> 00:29:31.593
  • "Live in my love."
  • 00:29:31.593 --> 00:29:33.161
  • The way you do thatis by having hope
  • 00:29:33.161 --> 00:29:35.797
  • because he says, "Await themercy of our Lord, Jesus Christ,
  • 00:29:35.797 --> 00:29:38.933
  • "that will bring youto eternal life."
  • 00:29:38.933 --> 00:29:40.702
  • Hope helps you keep going.
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  • When you don't believe thateternal life is on the way,
  • 00:29:44.672 --> 00:29:47.342
  • when you don't believethat God is coming back,
  • 00:29:47.342 --> 00:29:49.777
  • when you don't believethat God is gonna keep you,
  • 00:29:49.777 --> 00:29:52.180
  • you can get pretty discouraged.
  • 00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:54.182
  • This world is ugly, you know?
  • 00:29:54.182 --> 00:29:56.084
  • We might not be ugly,but the world is,
  • 00:29:56.084 --> 00:29:57.719
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:29:57.719 --> 00:29:59.487
  • and so we need the hope, andthe hope secures us to say,
  • 00:29:59.487 --> 00:30:03.224
  • "I'm not gonna go into the love
  • 00:30:03.224 --> 00:30:04.959
  • "of a man that's not my husband.
  • 00:30:04.959 --> 00:30:06.761
  • "I'm not gonna go intothe love of the world.
  • 00:30:06.761 --> 00:30:09.197
  • "I'm not gonna go intothe love, or pornography.
  • 00:30:09.197 --> 00:30:12.166
  • "I'm not gonna go into thelove of sexual perversion.
  • 00:30:12.166 --> 00:30:15.169
  • "I'm not gonna go into thelove of greed and lying."
  • 00:30:15.169 --> 00:30:17.906
  • Those things might feellike they love you,
  • 00:30:17.906 --> 00:30:19.674
  • but idols don't have thecapacity to love you back
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  • in the way that you love them,
  • 00:30:21.743 --> 00:30:22.710
  • and so what we need to do
  • 00:30:22.710 --> 00:30:24.078
  • is keep ourselvesin the love of God
  • 00:30:24.078 --> 00:30:26.080
  • because that is areal, and a lasting,
  • 00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:28.216
  • and a true, and a holy love.
  • 00:30:28.216 --> 00:30:30.551
  • God's love will never destroyyou like these idols will.
  • 00:30:30.551 --> 00:30:33.721
  • Then he says, inverse 22 and 23,
  • 00:30:34.722 --> 00:30:38.026
  • more pragmatic things.
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  • "Be merciful tothose who doubt."
  • 00:30:39.427 --> 00:30:43.031
  • To have mercy is tobe compassionate.
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  • It's to say thosewho are wavering,
  • 00:30:46.567 --> 00:30:50.004
  • don't know what to believe,
  • 00:30:50.004 --> 00:30:51.506
  • be compassionate towards them.
  • 00:30:51.506 --> 00:30:53.408
  • I can be very impatient
  • 00:30:53.408 --> 00:30:54.943
  • because I'm a very binary,black-and-white person.
  • 00:30:54.943 --> 00:30:57.011
  • It's either you like almondmilk or you don't, okay?
  • 00:30:57.011 --> 00:31:00.448
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:31:00.448 --> 00:31:01.683
  • (laughs) And somy lack of mercy,
  • 00:31:01.683 --> 00:31:05.253
  • my lack of impatience,
  • 00:31:05.253 --> 00:31:06.688
  • will affect howI contend, right?
  • 00:31:06.688 --> 00:31:09.190
  • - Right.- And so he's saying
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  • to have mercy on thesepeople, but not only that.
  • 00:31:10.658 --> 00:31:12.927
  • One of the things aboutverses 22 and 23, I love this,
  • 00:31:20.902 --> 00:31:24.439
  • is he's showing you thatthere are different methods
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  • for different people.
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  • There are some that doubt.
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  • There are some that need tobe snatched out of the fire.
  • 00:31:30.411 --> 00:31:32.780
  • There are some that you haveto show mercy mixed with fear.
  • 00:31:32.780 --> 00:31:35.516
  • Like, just because onemethod worked for one person
  • 00:31:35.516 --> 00:31:38.353
  • doesn't mean thatthe other method
  • 00:31:38.353 --> 00:31:39.721
  • will work for another person.
  • 00:31:39.721 --> 00:31:41.222
  • - [Matt And Laurie] Right.
  • 00:31:41.222 --> 00:31:42.390
  • - We need to be flexiblein our ministry,
  • 00:31:42.390 --> 00:31:44.459
  • which means we needto be attentive
  • 00:31:44.459 --> 00:31:46.127
  • and we need to be prayerfulto be able to discern,
  • 00:31:46.127 --> 00:31:48.563
  • "God, is this somebody
  • 00:31:48.563 --> 00:31:50.164
  • "that I'm supposed tobe just merciful with?
  • 00:31:50.164 --> 00:31:53.234
  • "Or is this somebody
  • 00:31:53.234 --> 00:31:54.535
  • "that I need to be alittle forceful with
  • 00:31:54.535 --> 00:31:55.837
  • "by snatching themout of the fire?"
  • 00:31:55.837 --> 00:31:58.306
  • When he talks about snatchingthem out of the fire,
  • 00:31:58.306 --> 00:32:00.041
  • he means this is a personthat's beyond doubt.
  • 00:32:00.041 --> 00:32:03.077
  • They're not just wrestling.
  • 00:32:03.077 --> 00:32:04.645
  • Their feet areclose to the flames.
  • 00:32:04.645 --> 00:32:07.248
  • They have almostgiven up on God.
  • 00:32:07.248 --> 00:32:10.752
  • They're saying,"(sighs) This temptation
  • 00:32:10.752 --> 00:32:12.887
  • "is too hard to resist.
  • 00:32:12.887 --> 00:32:14.355
  • "I don't see God coming through.
  • 00:32:17.125 --> 00:32:18.659
  • "I don't think thatI can stay faithful,
  • 00:32:18.659 --> 00:32:20.728
  • "so let me just trythis a little bit.
  • 00:32:20.728 --> 00:32:23.197
  • "Let me just tastethat a little bit.
  • 00:32:23.197 --> 00:32:24.465
  • "Let me just do this,"
  • 00:32:24.465 --> 00:32:25.800
  • and you have to discern
  • 00:32:25.800 --> 00:32:26.968
  • that this personneeds a forceful hand.
  • 00:32:26.968 --> 00:32:28.803
  • That doesn't mean I abuse.
  • 00:32:28.803 --> 00:32:30.638
  • It means I'm a little moreaggressive in my technique,
  • 00:32:30.638 --> 00:32:33.007
  • and so there was a girl I waswalking with and discipling.
  • 00:32:33.007 --> 00:32:36.210
  • She was just off the chain,
  • 00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:37.812
  • and I had to talkto her and say,
  • 00:32:37.812 --> 00:32:41.983
  • "The route you are going isthe route of destruction.
  • 00:32:43.418 --> 00:32:46.521
  • "You are to a point that I,"
  • 00:32:47.855 --> 00:32:49.891
  • you ever talk to people
  • 00:32:49.891 --> 00:32:51.259
  • and you see their eyesglazing over with truth?
  • 00:32:51.259 --> 00:32:53.728
  • They're at churchand they don't care.
  • 00:32:55.063 --> 00:32:56.964
  • They're becoming apathetic.
  • 00:32:56.964 --> 00:32:58.266
  • They used to worship andthey just can't anymore.
  • 00:32:58.266 --> 00:33:00.334
  • They don't read the Bible.
  • 00:33:00.334 --> 00:33:01.869
  • They don't pray.
  • 00:33:01.869 --> 00:33:02.804
  • Everything that you say to them,
  • 00:33:02.804 --> 00:33:04.105
  • there's a pushback,there's defense.
  • 00:33:04.105 --> 00:33:05.940
  • Their tweets get allrambunctious and obnoxious.
  • 00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:08.843
  • (audience laughing)And so, to those people,
  • 00:33:08.843 --> 00:33:11.612
  • I have to be discerning to say,
  • 00:33:11.612 --> 00:33:13.081
  • "I have to be a littlemore aggressive with you,"
  • 00:33:13.081 --> 00:33:15.750
  • but he also says, "To others,show mercy mixed with fear,
  • 00:33:15.750 --> 00:33:19.353
  • To show mercy with fearis to say there are some
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  • that you are to becompassionate with,
  • 00:33:27.695 --> 00:33:30.131
  • while at the same time
  • 00:33:30.131 --> 00:33:31.466
  • making sure that youfear God and hate sin.
  • 00:33:31.466 --> 00:33:33.434
  • That's what he means by hating
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  • even the garmentstained by the flesh.
  • 00:33:35.803 --> 00:33:37.505
  • That's basically a metaphor
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  • to hate anything relatedto being defiled, or sin.
  • 00:33:39.140 --> 00:33:43.077
  • The reason thatthat is important
  • 00:33:43.077 --> 00:33:45.113
  • because how many Christians doyou know that show compassion
  • 00:33:45.113 --> 00:33:49.083
  • to the point thatthey became complicit?
  • 00:33:49.083 --> 00:33:51.886
  • (audience murmuring)
  • 00:33:51.886 --> 00:33:53.054
  • - Okay, we're seeinga lot of that.
  • 00:33:53.054 --> 00:33:53.955
  • - Yeah, it's everywhere,
  • 00:33:53.955 --> 00:33:56.457
  • but that's becausethey stop fearing God.
  • 00:33:56.457 --> 00:33:59.360
  • There is the temptation tostart to love your neighbor
  • 00:33:59.360 --> 00:34:02.630
  • more than you love God,
  • 00:34:02.630 --> 00:34:04.232
  • and when you love your neighbormore than you love God,
  • 00:34:04.232 --> 00:34:07.068
  • you are mixing the love.
  • 00:34:08.002 --> 00:34:09.770
  • God, Jesus said, "The firstand the best commandment
  • 00:34:09.770 --> 00:34:12.473
  • "is to love the Lord God
  • 00:34:12.473 --> 00:34:14.175
  • "with all your heart,mind, and soul,
  • 00:34:14.175 --> 00:34:15.409
  • "and then love yourneighbor as yourself."
  • 00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:17.678
  • I cannot love my neighbor well
  • 00:34:17.678 --> 00:34:19.480
  • if I am not lovingGod above all,
  • 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.816
  • right?- Right.
  • 00:34:21.816 --> 00:34:22.650
  • - And so I need to--
  • 00:34:22.650 --> 00:34:23.551
  • - Or right.- Yes.
  • 00:34:23.551 --> 00:34:24.785
  • - You can't love'em right, either.
  • 00:34:24.785 --> 00:34:25.820
  • - No, you can't,
  • 00:34:25.820 --> 00:34:27.021
  • and so I thinkshowing compassion
  • 00:34:27.021 --> 00:34:30.124
  • has to be paired withfearing the Lord,
  • 00:34:30.124 --> 00:34:33.394
  • and so I get it.
  • 00:34:33.394 --> 00:34:34.795
  • There are some situationsand some scenarios
  • 00:34:34.795 --> 00:34:37.665
  • where we wantpeople to be happy.
  • 00:34:37.665 --> 00:34:40.234
  • There are people in our lives
  • 00:34:40.234 --> 00:34:42.069
  • that we know that ifwe told them the truth,
  • 00:34:42.069 --> 00:34:44.605
  • it might mess upthe relationship,
  • 00:34:44.605 --> 00:34:46.340
  • or we know if wetold them the truth,
  • 00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:48.009
  • it might make themsuffer a little more,
  • 00:34:48.009 --> 00:34:50.411
  • but we have to be willingto fear God anyway
  • 00:34:50.411 --> 00:34:54.715
  • and say this goes againstall of my sentiments.
  • 00:34:54.715 --> 00:34:57.652
  • I don't even knowwhy I'm saying this,
  • 00:34:57.652 --> 00:34:59.587
  • but I love God enough to loveyou and to tell you the truth,
  • 00:34:59.587 --> 00:35:02.957
  • and so make sure
  • 00:35:02.957 --> 00:35:04.859
  • that in your effortto be compassionate,
  • 00:35:04.859 --> 00:35:07.728
  • you are fearing God.
  • 00:35:07.728 --> 00:35:10.198
  • - Beautiful.(audience applauding)
  • 00:35:10.198 --> 00:35:11.065
  • It is the book of Jude.
  • 00:35:11.065 --> 00:35:12.200
  • Jackie Hill Perry
  • 00:35:14.869 --> 00:35:16.571
  • has done the entire study on it.
  • 00:35:16.571 --> 00:35:20.374
  • It's available--
  • 00:35:20.374 --> 00:35:21.776
  • - It's so good.- in all sorts of places,
  • 00:35:21.776 --> 00:35:23.244
  • but take a look at thislittle promo for it.
  • 00:35:23.244 --> 00:35:24.946
  • Watch this.
  • 00:35:24.946 --> 00:35:26.113
  • (uplifting music)
  • 00:35:26.113 --> 00:35:28.950
  • - Hi, saints.
  • 00:35:36.791 --> 00:35:37.725
  • My name is Jackie Hill Perry,
  • 00:35:37.725 --> 00:35:39.327
  • and I am here to inviteyou and welcome you
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  • to study the bookof Jude with me.
  • 00:35:42.230 --> 00:35:44.031
  • Jude is one of thebooks of the Bible
  • 00:35:45.833 --> 00:35:47.702
  • that people kindof forget exists,
  • 00:35:47.702 --> 00:35:50.104
  • but it's super-relevantfor us in our day and age.
  • 00:35:50.104 --> 00:35:52.940
  • I talk to a lot ofpeople who are wondering
  • 00:35:55.109 --> 00:35:57.245
  • how to love their neighborwho disagrees with them,
  • 00:35:57.245 --> 00:36:00.548
  • how to talk to their friend
  • 00:36:00.548 --> 00:36:02.149
  • who is wrestlingwith some things,
  • 00:36:02.149 --> 00:36:03.851
  • how to defend particular truths
  • 00:36:03.851 --> 00:36:05.953
  • and doctrines of the Scriptures,
  • 00:36:05.953 --> 00:36:07.755
  • and Jude actuallyhas a lot of answers
  • 00:36:07.755 --> 00:36:10.591
  • for many of our questions.
  • 00:36:10.591 --> 00:36:12.860
  • To neglect the whole Gospel,
  • 00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:15.296
  • as in to leave out the parts
  • 00:36:15.296 --> 00:36:16.964
  • that might make somebodyfeel some type of way,
  • 00:36:16.964 --> 00:36:19.734
  • is to remove theparts of the Gospel
  • 00:36:19.734 --> 00:36:21.869
  • that actually make it Good News.
  • 00:36:21.869 --> 00:36:23.771
  • Grace isn't amazing
  • 00:36:23.771 --> 00:36:25.940
  • unless you understoodthat you don't deserve it.
  • 00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:28.209
  • God's love don't seem as deep,
  • 00:36:28.209 --> 00:36:30.811
  • and as wide, and as long
  • 00:36:30.811 --> 00:36:32.313
  • if you don't recognize the fact
  • 00:36:32.313 --> 00:36:33.848
  • that God loved you waybefore you loved him.
  • 00:36:33.848 --> 00:36:36.717
  • Our walk through Jude willonly be seven sessions.
  • 00:36:36.717 --> 00:36:39.387
  • I think it'll be good.
  • 00:36:39.387 --> 00:36:40.588
  • I think we'll learna lot about God,
  • 00:36:40.588 --> 00:36:42.657
  • and mercy, and his Gospel,
  • 00:36:42.657 --> 00:36:44.492
  • and how to defend thetruths of the faith,
  • 00:36:44.492 --> 00:36:47.128
  • and so I pray that youwould come alongside of me
  • 00:36:47.128 --> 00:36:49.497
  • to walk through thisbeautiful and glorious book
  • 00:36:49.497 --> 00:36:52.066
  • so that we can learn how tocontend for the faith together.
  • 00:36:52.066 --> 00:36:54.735
  • (audience applauding)
  • 00:36:57.505 --> 00:37:00.441
  • - We are unpackingthe book of Jude
  • 00:37:00.441 --> 00:37:03.544
  • right here withJackie Hill Perry,
  • 00:37:03.544 --> 00:37:05.946
  • and Jackie, we've gotabout 20 minutes left.
  • 00:37:05.946 --> 00:37:08.349
  • We wanna directly
  • 00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:11.285
  • talk to those that are viewing.
  • 00:37:11.285 --> 00:37:13.487
  • You know, earlieryou were discussing
  • 00:37:13.487 --> 00:37:15.656
  • some people thatyou're walking with,
  • 00:37:16.791 --> 00:37:18.893
  • you're journeying with,
  • 00:37:18.893 --> 00:37:20.294
  • you're showing the compassionthat you need to show,
  • 00:37:20.294 --> 00:37:24.899
  • but compassion withouttruth, ultimately,
  • 00:37:24.899 --> 00:37:27.702
  • I mean, there could besomebody watching tonight
  • 00:37:27.702 --> 00:37:30.571
  • that is ready
  • 00:37:30.571 --> 00:37:31.572
  • to journey intofaith with Jesus,
  • 00:37:33.274 --> 00:37:36.043
  • and so we want youto get to that,
  • 00:37:36.043 --> 00:37:38.079
  • but at some pointit might be nice
  • 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.448
  • to kinda do a reset.
  • 00:37:40.448 --> 00:37:42.783
  • If somebody startedviewing this broadcast
  • 00:37:42.783 --> 00:37:46.220
  • 20 minutes ago,
  • 00:37:46.220 --> 00:37:47.488
  • they didn't get kindathe beginning of this.
  • 00:37:47.488 --> 00:37:48.956
  • Why don't you do just a littlerecap of the book of Jude,
  • 00:37:48.956 --> 00:37:51.192
  • and then kinda land theplane for us a little bit?
  • 00:37:51.192 --> 00:37:54.595
  • - So Jude,
  • 00:37:54.595 --> 00:37:55.830
  • verse one tells youa little about Jude.
  • 00:37:57.164 --> 00:38:00.034
  • It says, "Jude, brother of James
  • 00:38:00.034 --> 00:38:02.503
  • "and servant of ourLord, Jesus Christ."
  • 00:38:02.503 --> 00:38:05.039
  • Jude was writtenby Jesus's brother,
  • 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.542
  • which is cool to read it
  • 00:38:08.542 --> 00:38:10.644
  • and to recognize that hedoesn't even relate to Jesus
  • 00:38:10.644 --> 00:38:13.781
  • as a family member,but as a servant,
  • 00:38:13.781 --> 00:38:16.250
  • and so you're reading theletter of a very humble man.
  • 00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:19.787
  • He writes to this church.
  • 00:38:19.787 --> 00:38:21.122
  • It's not clear whatchurch he wrote to.
  • 00:38:21.122 --> 00:38:23.157
  • You know, how Paul would say,
  • 00:38:23.157 --> 00:38:24.792
  • writing to the churchof Corinth or Ephesus.
  • 00:38:24.792 --> 00:38:27.261
  • We don't know whatchurch he wrote to,
  • 00:38:27.261 --> 00:38:28.929
  • but he wrote to somebody,and he says that he wrote,
  • 00:38:28.929 --> 00:38:31.766
  • initially he wanted to talkabout their common salvation,
  • 00:38:31.766 --> 00:38:34.135
  • but he found it necessaryto appeal to them
  • 00:38:34.135 --> 00:38:36.437
  • to contend for the faith.
  • 00:38:36.437 --> 00:38:37.938
  • Contending for the faith
  • 00:38:37.938 --> 00:38:39.140
  • meaning to fight forthe essential doctrines
  • 00:38:39.140 --> 00:38:41.509
  • of the Bible andof the Scriptures.
  • 00:38:41.509 --> 00:38:44.011
  • The point is that
  • 00:38:44.011 --> 00:38:46.313
  • when you have people
  • 00:38:46.313 --> 00:38:48.482
  • meddling with whatthe Bible has to say,
  • 00:38:48.482 --> 00:38:50.985
  • then you have people meddlingwith the glory of God.
  • 00:38:50.985 --> 00:38:54.121
  • This isn't a call tocontend for the faith
  • 00:38:54.121 --> 00:38:57.158
  • so we can be dope Christiansthat know how to fight,
  • 00:38:57.158 --> 00:38:59.693
  • or dope Christians
  • 00:38:59.693 --> 00:39:01.128
  • that know how to provesomeone wrong in a argument.
  • 00:39:01.128 --> 00:39:03.230
  • This is all about theglory of Jesus Christ,
  • 00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:05.666
  • and so that's his aim.
  • 00:39:05.666 --> 00:39:08.235
  • In the letter,
  • 00:39:08.235 --> 00:39:09.503
  • he has these examplesfrom the Old Testament
  • 00:39:09.503 --> 00:39:12.773
  • as to what these false teachers
  • 00:39:12.773 --> 00:39:15.342
  • may or may not be looking like,
  • 00:39:15.342 --> 00:39:16.777
  • and so he talks about Korah,
  • 00:39:16.777 --> 00:39:18.813
  • who had a problem withthe authority of Moses.
  • 00:39:18.813 --> 00:39:21.215
  • He talks about Balaam,who was greedy.
  • 00:39:21.215 --> 00:39:23.484
  • He talks aboutSodom and Gomorrah,
  • 00:39:23.484 --> 00:39:24.952
  • who were sexually perverse.
  • 00:39:24.952 --> 00:39:26.554
  • He talks about allthese instances
  • 00:39:26.554 --> 00:39:29.623
  • of people sinning against God,
  • 00:39:29.623 --> 00:39:31.459
  • but he also talksabout the judgment.
  • 00:39:31.459 --> 00:39:33.160
  • We don't like judgment.
  • 00:39:33.160 --> 00:39:33.994
  • Makes us feel awkward.
  • 00:39:33.994 --> 00:39:34.929
  • Makes us feel weird,
  • 00:39:34.929 --> 00:39:36.363
  • but I think to recognizethat God is Lord,
  • 00:39:36.363 --> 00:39:39.166
  • and that God is holy,
  • 00:39:39.166 --> 00:39:39.967
  • and that God is good
  • 00:39:39.967 --> 00:39:41.202
  • means that God hasto be a just judge.
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  • For him to be a just judge,he must deal with injustice,
  • 00:39:43.571 --> 00:39:46.540
  • and the primaryinjustice of all mankind
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  • is that we have sinnedagainst a sinless one,
  • 00:39:48.843 --> 00:39:50.811
  • and so because of that,he wants to remind us
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  • that though these peoplemight be going unnoticed,
  • 00:39:53.414 --> 00:39:55.749
  • God will notice themand deal with it.
  • 00:39:55.749 --> 00:39:58.452
  • He tells them towardsthe end, though,
  • 00:39:58.452 --> 00:40:00.387
  • the way you cancontend for the faith
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  • is to be mercifulto those who doubt,
  • 00:40:02.490 --> 00:40:04.558
  • to show compassionmixed with fear,
  • 00:40:04.558 --> 00:40:06.494
  • hating him in the garmentstained by the flesh,
  • 00:40:06.494 --> 00:40:08.128
  • which is to say asyou show compassion,
  • 00:40:08.128 --> 00:40:10.798
  • as you love your neighbor, makesure you fear your God, too
  • 00:40:10.798 --> 00:40:14.235
  • because compassion can becomecomplicity if you let it.
  • 00:40:14.235 --> 00:40:17.972
  • Then he ends up ending thisbook with this doxology.
  • 00:40:17.972 --> 00:40:21.642
  • A doxology is ashort hymn of praise.
  • 00:40:21.642 --> 00:40:24.778
  • It's basically the shortestworship song you'll ever read.
  • 00:40:24.778 --> 00:40:27.681
  • It's a beautiful doxology.
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  • I'll read it verbatim.
  • 00:40:30.284 --> 00:40:31.218
  • He says, in verse 24 he says,
  • 00:40:31.218 --> 00:40:33.120
  • "To him who is able tokeep you from stumbling
  • 00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:36.590
  • "and to present you faultlessbefore his glorious presence
  • 00:40:36.590 --> 00:40:39.159
  • "with great joy to theonly God, our Savior,
  • 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.662
  • "through Jesus Christ, our Lord,
  • 00:40:41.662 --> 00:40:43.163
  • "be dominion,authority, majesty."
  • 00:40:43.163 --> 00:40:45.633
  • I mixed that up.
  • 00:40:45.633 --> 00:40:47.001
  • You can read it.
  • 00:40:47.001 --> 00:40:47.835
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:40:47.835 --> 00:40:49.570
  • "Forever and ever, amen."
  • 00:40:49.570 --> 00:40:52.306
  • To walk through that,
  • 00:40:52.306 --> 00:40:53.641
  • he says, "To him whois able to keep you."
  • 00:40:53.641 --> 00:40:57.378
  • If you have any understanding
  • 00:40:57.378 --> 00:41:00.214
  • of yourself, any self-awareness,
  • 00:41:00.214 --> 00:41:03.918
  • then you know that youare hard to be kept
  • 00:41:03.918 --> 00:41:06.687
  • because you're difficult.
  • 00:41:06.687 --> 00:41:08.222
  • You got Israel, who,
  • 00:41:08.222 --> 00:41:10.724
  • one minute they worshipin the Lord thy God
  • 00:41:10.724 --> 00:41:12.993
  • with all their might.
  • 00:41:12.993 --> 00:41:14.461
  • Then the next minute theywanna go back to Egypt
  • 00:41:14.461 --> 00:41:15.796
  • 'cause they hungry.
  • 00:41:15.796 --> 00:41:16.864
  • - Yeah.(audience laughing)
  • 00:41:16.864 --> 00:41:18.365
  • We are fickle people.
  • 00:41:18.365 --> 00:41:19.767
  • You have David,
  • 00:41:19.767 --> 00:41:21.502
  • who one minute isworshiping God.
  • 00:41:21.502 --> 00:41:24.238
  • He is called a manafter God's own heart,
  • 00:41:24.238 --> 00:41:26.307
  • and then the next minutehe is killing Uriah
  • 00:41:26.307 --> 00:41:28.442
  • just because hehad the man's baby,
  • 00:41:28.442 --> 00:41:30.744
  • well, not his baby,but he had this--
  • 00:41:30.744 --> 00:41:31.979
  • - Yeah.- You get what I'm saying.
  • 00:41:31.979 --> 00:41:33.213
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:41:33.213 --> 00:41:34.715
  • Then you got us.
  • 00:41:34.715 --> 00:41:36.183
  • You have Peter, who asked Jesusto walk on water, and then,
  • 00:41:36.183 --> 00:41:39.420
  • as soon as the wind and thewaves get a little crazy,
  • 00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:41.622
  • he starts to doubt his God.
  • 00:41:41.622 --> 00:41:42.957
  • It shows us that, consistently,
  • 00:41:42.957 --> 00:41:44.692
  • people of faith have a veryhard time staying faithful.
  • 00:41:44.692 --> 00:41:47.328
  • - Wow.(audience murmuring)
  • 00:41:47.328 --> 00:41:48.596
  • - That's the emphasis,and so for Jude to say,
  • 00:41:48.596 --> 00:41:50.664
  • "To him who is able tokeep you from falling,"
  • 00:41:50.664 --> 00:41:53.434
  • is to say that you have a God
  • 00:41:53.434 --> 00:41:55.936
  • whose hand is strongerthan your legs.
  • 00:41:55.936 --> 00:41:57.838
  • You might not be able to keepyourself in the will of God
  • 00:41:57.838 --> 00:42:01.842
  • as much as you try,
  • 00:42:01.842 --> 00:42:02.776
  • but he gonna do it for you.
  • 00:42:02.776 --> 00:42:04.144
  • He is that strong, andhe is that powerful,
  • 00:42:04.144 --> 00:42:06.680
  • and so I think thatwould encourage me.
  • 00:42:06.680 --> 00:42:09.383
  • I'm in this cultureand this world
  • 00:42:09.383 --> 00:42:11.518
  • where everybody around mewants to do what they wanna do,
  • 00:42:11.518 --> 00:42:14.088
  • and everybody around me isjust falling by the wayside,
  • 00:42:14.088 --> 00:42:17.024
  • but I have a God who is saying,
  • 00:42:17.024 --> 00:42:18.325
  • "No, I am more than able
  • 00:42:18.325 --> 00:42:20.494
  • "to keep you from falling,"
  • 00:42:20.494 --> 00:42:22.863
  • and this is not a
  • 00:42:22.863 --> 00:42:23.964
  • (audience applauding)
  • 00:42:23.964 --> 00:42:25.766
  • Amen.
  • 00:42:25.766 --> 00:42:26.600
  • And this is not justsaying you won't fall.
  • 00:42:28.736 --> 00:42:31.705
  • You will.
  • 00:42:31.705 --> 00:42:32.640
  • This is a eschatological fault.
  • 00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:34.608
  • Like, God is able tokeep you falling finally.
  • 00:42:34.608 --> 00:42:38.178
  • For example, youhave Peter, again,
  • 00:42:38.178 --> 00:42:40.080
  • who Jesus told him,
  • 00:42:40.080 --> 00:42:42.783
  • "Hey, when the roostercrows three times
  • 00:42:42.783 --> 00:42:45.953
  • "you will deny me."
  • 00:42:45.953 --> 00:42:47.655
  • What did he do?
  • 00:42:47.655 --> 00:42:48.922
  • He denied him, and then,when Jesus restored him,
  • 00:42:48.922 --> 00:42:51.625
  • over dinner he says, "Hey,
  • 00:42:51.625 --> 00:42:53.494
  • "I prayed for you thatyour faith would not fail."
  • 00:42:54.895 --> 00:42:57.564
  • Somebody could be confused bythat 'cause they could say,
  • 00:42:57.564 --> 00:42:59.967
  • "Jesus, he denied you,though, so his faith failed,"
  • 00:42:59.967 --> 00:43:03.003
  • but I would say his faithdid not fail eternally.
  • 00:43:03.003 --> 00:43:06.273
  • It failed momentarily,
  • 00:43:06.273 --> 00:43:07.841
  • so even my momentaryfalls will not exclude me
  • 00:43:07.841 --> 00:43:11.211
  • from being able to standbefore God's presence--
  • 00:43:11.211 --> 00:43:13.514
  • - Beautiful.- faultless.
  • 00:43:13.514 --> 00:43:14.615
  • - [Matt] Wow, yeah.
  • 00:43:14.615 --> 00:43:15.983
  • - He says that God
  • 00:43:15.983 --> 00:43:17.584
  • is not only able tokeep you from falling,
  • 00:43:17.584 --> 00:43:19.953
  • but that God is going topresent you without fault,
  • 00:43:19.953 --> 00:43:23.791
  • so he's playing withcontrast by saying,
  • 00:43:23.791 --> 00:43:25.893
  • "God is not only able tokeep you from falling,
  • 00:43:25.893 --> 00:43:28.862
  • "but God is able tokeep you standing.
  • 00:43:28.862 --> 00:43:31.198
  • "Not only that, he'sgoing to present you
  • 00:43:31.198 --> 00:43:33.300
  • "as if you've never doneanything in your entire life."
  • 00:43:33.300 --> 00:43:35.903
  • If you know anything
  • 00:43:35.903 --> 00:43:37.337
  • about being withoutfault or without blemish,
  • 00:43:37.337 --> 00:43:39.306
  • you know that that's connectingback to the Old Testament.
  • 00:43:39.306 --> 00:43:42.409
  • One of the thingsGod always demanded
  • 00:43:42.409 --> 00:43:44.144
  • of his people andtheir sacrifice
  • 00:43:44.144 --> 00:43:45.612
  • is that they couldnot have any blemish
  • 00:43:45.612 --> 00:43:47.548
  • because God wanted thatwhich was presented to him
  • 00:43:47.548 --> 00:43:50.451
  • to be representative of himself.
  • 00:43:50.451 --> 00:43:51.985
  • God has no faults.
  • 00:43:51.985 --> 00:43:53.687
  • God has no blemishes.
  • 00:43:53.687 --> 00:43:55.255
  • He is perfect.
  • 00:43:55.255 --> 00:43:56.490
  • He is spotless.
  • 00:43:56.490 --> 00:43:57.725
  • He's so pretty.
  • 00:43:57.725 --> 00:43:58.559
  • He is just,
  • 00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:59.526
  • he is just a perfect God,
  • 00:43:59.526 --> 00:44:01.695
  • but we know enoughabout ourselves
  • 00:44:01.695 --> 00:44:03.397
  • that we know the moment wewere born we had faults.
  • 00:44:03.397 --> 00:44:05.365
  • Why?
  • 00:44:05.365 --> 00:44:06.300
  • Because we were all born in sin,
  • 00:44:06.300 --> 00:44:08.836
  • and shaped in iniquity.
  • 00:44:08.836 --> 00:44:10.571
  • Half of us got faultsright now in our mind
  • 00:44:10.571 --> 00:44:13.407
  • that God (laughs)(audience laughing)
  • 00:44:13.407 --> 00:44:15.542
  • himself is gonna deal with,and so that's the predicament
  • 00:44:15.542 --> 00:44:19.680
  • is that if God isholy and we are not,
  • 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:22.783
  • how in the world will I beable to stand before him
  • 00:44:22.783 --> 00:44:25.786
  • without being judged by him?
  • 00:44:25.786 --> 00:44:27.755
  • But that's the beauty of Jesus
  • 00:44:27.755 --> 00:44:29.389
  • is that Jesus became thespotless Lamb without blemish
  • 00:44:29.389 --> 00:44:33.093
  • who took on your blemishes
  • 00:44:33.093 --> 00:44:34.561
  • so that you wouldn't have tostand before God and be judged.
  • 00:44:34.561 --> 00:44:37.231
  • Jesus took on the burden,(audience applauding)
  • 00:44:37.231 --> 00:44:39.500
  • and the wrath, and thedirt, and the nastiness
  • 00:44:39.500 --> 00:44:43.303
  • so that when we stand before God
  • 00:44:43.303 --> 00:44:45.205
  • we stand purely onthe righteousness ofJesus Christ alone.
  • 00:44:45.205 --> 00:44:48.609
  • This is why Jude hasthe audacity to say
  • 00:44:48.609 --> 00:44:51.712
  • that God will not onlybe able to keep you,
  • 00:44:51.712 --> 00:44:54.148
  • but when you stand before him,
  • 00:44:54.148 --> 00:44:55.949
  • you will stand as if youhave never committed a sin
  • 00:44:55.949 --> 00:44:59.520
  • in your entire life.
  • 00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:01.188
  • That is the lavishness of grace
  • 00:45:01.188 --> 00:45:02.923
  • that these people wanna pervert.
  • 00:45:02.923 --> 00:45:04.158
  • - Beautiful, wow.
  • 00:45:04.158 --> 00:45:05.292
  • (audience applauding)
  • 00:45:05.292 --> 00:45:06.460
  • Jackie, right thereis a good time
  • 00:45:06.460 --> 00:45:09.563
  • to tell somebodythat's ready for that.
  • 00:45:09.563 --> 00:45:12.699
  • They want this Good News.
  • 00:45:12.699 --> 00:45:15.402
  • How do they accept this?
  • 00:45:15.402 --> 00:45:17.571
  • How do they seal this deal?
  • 00:45:17.571 --> 00:45:19.373
  • - I think they have to knowwho they are and who Jesus is.
  • 00:45:19.373 --> 00:45:23.277
  • Who you are, how you started,
  • 00:45:24.411 --> 00:45:26.647
  • was that you were born in sin,
  • 00:45:26.647 --> 00:45:30.484
  • but before you were born in sin,
  • 00:45:30.484 --> 00:45:32.986
  • you were thought ofin the mind of God.
  • 00:45:32.986 --> 00:45:35.455
  • You were born asan image-bearer,
  • 00:45:35.455 --> 00:45:37.858
  • which means thatyou have dignity,
  • 00:45:37.858 --> 00:45:39.993
  • which means thatyou are important,
  • 00:45:39.993 --> 00:45:42.396
  • which means thatyou have purpose,
  • 00:45:42.396 --> 00:45:44.131
  • your primary purposebeing to love God
  • 00:45:44.131 --> 00:45:47.334
  • with all your heart,mind, and soul,
  • 00:45:47.334 --> 00:45:48.936
  • but you were born in a lineageof people with bad blood.
  • 00:45:48.936 --> 00:45:53.407
  • You were born after Adam,
  • 00:45:53.407 --> 00:45:55.409
  • and so because youwere born after Adam,
  • 00:45:55.409 --> 00:45:57.544
  • your default is to distrust God.
  • 00:45:57.544 --> 00:46:00.180
  • Your default is to believethat your affection
  • 00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:02.616
  • should have the final sayover how you live your life.
  • 00:46:02.616 --> 00:46:05.886
  • Your default is to believethat you know better
  • 00:46:05.886 --> 00:46:08.856
  • than the all-wise God,
  • 00:46:08.856 --> 00:46:10.924
  • and so because of this,
  • 00:46:10.924 --> 00:46:12.426
  • you most likely havewent through your life
  • 00:46:12.426 --> 00:46:14.494
  • making decisions that Godwould not have you to make.
  • 00:46:14.494 --> 00:46:17.598
  • You have most likely pickedup a few idols on the way,
  • 00:46:17.598 --> 00:46:20.834
  • whether it be pride, arrogance,
  • 00:46:20.834 --> 00:46:23.737
  • ego, greed, lying,
  • 00:46:23.737 --> 00:46:25.572
  • pornography addiction, adultery,
  • 00:46:25.572 --> 00:46:28.442
  • all kinds of things.
  • 00:46:28.442 --> 00:46:29.943
  • Even if you've never committedany of these grievous sins,
  • 00:46:29.943 --> 00:46:33.780
  • the fact that your heartis not submitted to God
  • 00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:36.149
  • is the primary idolatry forwhich you are to repent.
  • 00:46:36.149 --> 00:46:38.852
  • Repentance is a good word.
  • 00:46:40.053 --> 00:46:42.623
  • It's Good News because it says
  • 00:46:42.623 --> 00:46:43.991
  • that you actually havethe ability to change.
  • 00:46:43.991 --> 00:46:46.560
  • To repent is toturn from something.
  • 00:46:46.560 --> 00:46:49.830
  • What you are turning from
  • 00:46:49.830 --> 00:46:51.465
  • is your sin and theunbelief that fueled it.
  • 00:46:51.465 --> 00:46:54.434
  • It's the unbelief that saysthat I know better than God.
  • 00:46:54.434 --> 00:46:57.604
  • God is calling all ofhumanity to repent,
  • 00:46:57.604 --> 00:47:01.074
  • to turn from worthlessthings, to turn from idols,
  • 00:47:01.074 --> 00:47:04.578
  • to turn from unbelief, toturn from pride, to turn,
  • 00:47:04.578 --> 00:47:08.181
  • but you don't turntowards yourself.
  • 00:47:08.181 --> 00:47:10.384
  • You don't do a 360.
  • 00:47:10.384 --> 00:47:12.052
  • You do a 180.
  • 00:47:12.052 --> 00:47:13.553
  • You turn towards somebody,and that somebody is Jesus.
  • 00:47:13.553 --> 00:47:16.790
  • Who is Jesus?
  • 00:47:16.790 --> 00:47:18.292
  • Jesus was born after Adam,too, but different from you
  • 00:47:18.292 --> 00:47:21.194
  • in that he wasborn as the God-man
  • 00:47:21.194 --> 00:47:24.598
  • because he existedbefore anything existed.
  • 00:47:24.598 --> 00:47:27.301
  • He is the Creatorof all creatures.
  • 00:47:27.301 --> 00:47:29.770
  • He is the Alpha and Omega.
  • 00:47:29.770 --> 00:47:31.471
  • He is the Lord of Hosts.
  • 00:47:31.471 --> 00:47:33.273
  • He is the beginning and the end.
  • 00:47:33.273 --> 00:47:35.008
  • He is the one thatIsaiah saw in Isaiah six
  • 00:47:35.008 --> 00:47:38.111
  • when he saw the train ofhis robe fill the temple,
  • 00:47:38.111 --> 00:47:40.614
  • and the angels sang,
  • 00:47:40.614 --> 00:47:41.815
  • "Holy, holy, holy isthe Lord, God Almighty."
  • 00:47:41.815 --> 00:47:43.717
  • This is the Jesus thatwe're talking about,
  • 00:47:43.717 --> 00:47:45.419
  • that was born as a baby,
  • 00:47:45.419 --> 00:47:46.887
  • and this Jesus lived a life
  • 00:47:46.887 --> 00:47:49.423
  • submitted to the real God.
  • 00:47:49.423 --> 00:47:51.525
  • He lived a lifeperfect, and acceptable,
  • 00:47:51.525 --> 00:47:54.995
  • and righteous, and pure.
  • 00:47:54.995 --> 00:47:56.663
  • He loved his neighbor.
  • 00:47:56.663 --> 00:47:58.198
  • He prayed, and he healed,and he resurrected Lazarus.
  • 00:47:58.198 --> 00:48:01.335
  • He did all ofthese great things,
  • 00:48:01.335 --> 00:48:03.270
  • but then he had theaudacity to die,
  • 00:48:03.270 --> 00:48:07.607
  • and he didn't justdie for anybody,
  • 00:48:07.607 --> 00:48:09.676
  • but he died for all of thosethat would call on his name.
  • 00:48:09.676 --> 00:48:12.813
  • On the cross, Jesus took thepenalty of your idolatry.
  • 00:48:12.813 --> 00:48:16.550
  • He took the penalty ofyour sin on himself.
  • 00:48:16.550 --> 00:48:19.353
  • It says, even in the Bible,
  • 00:48:19.353 --> 00:48:21.188
  • that it got darkfor a couple hours.
  • 00:48:21.188 --> 00:48:23.724
  • That wasn't 'cause the sun left.
  • 00:48:23.724 --> 00:48:25.359
  • That was because thewrath of God was present.
  • 00:48:25.359 --> 00:48:27.694
  • There was darkness becausejudgment was in the room,
  • 00:48:27.694 --> 00:48:31.164
  • but that judgmentwas on your sin.
  • 00:48:31.164 --> 00:48:33.266
  • Therefore, if you believein the Lord, Jesus Christ,
  • 00:48:33.266 --> 00:48:37.070
  • and believe that he is allthat he says that he is,
  • 00:48:37.070 --> 00:48:39.306
  • and has done all that he willdo, all that he has done,
  • 00:48:39.306 --> 00:48:42.609
  • then you will not facethe judgment of God
  • 00:48:42.609 --> 00:48:44.878
  • in the same way that Jesus did.
  • 00:48:44.878 --> 00:48:46.546
  • You will actually be empoweredto love the Lord thy God
  • 00:48:46.546 --> 00:48:50.250
  • in a way that has alwaysbeen impossible for you,
  • 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.452
  • but not only that.
  • 00:48:52.452 --> 00:48:53.720
  • He not only lives,he not only died,
  • 00:48:53.720 --> 00:48:56.456
  • but he resurrected.
  • 00:48:56.456 --> 00:48:57.557
  • That's super-important
  • 00:48:57.557 --> 00:48:59.059
  • because if he was still deadwe wouldn't have any hope,
  • 00:48:59.059 --> 00:49:00.660
  • but the fact that Jesusrose from the dead
  • 00:49:00.660 --> 00:49:03.163
  • means that I who believe in him
  • 00:49:03.163 --> 00:49:05.132
  • have the power to overcomesin and death in the same way,
  • 00:49:05.132 --> 00:49:08.135
  • but not only that.
  • 00:49:08.135 --> 00:49:09.336
  • He didn't just live,and he didn't just die,
  • 00:49:09.336 --> 00:49:11.471
  • and he didn't just raise,but he also sent us somebody.
  • 00:49:11.471 --> 00:49:14.307
  • He did not send us an angel.
  • 00:49:14.307 --> 00:49:15.876
  • He did not send us some random.
  • 00:49:15.876 --> 00:49:18.078
  • He sent us himself in theperson of the Holy Spirit--
  • 00:49:18.078 --> 00:49:20.480
  • - Thank you.- to empower us
  • 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.883
  • (audience applauding)
  • 00:49:22.883 --> 00:49:25.085
  • to love God,
  • 00:49:25.085 --> 00:49:26.987
  • and so, if you neverknew, that was the Gospel.
  • 00:49:26.987 --> 00:49:31.058
  • (audience chuckling)
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  • Paul said that if youbelieve in this Gospel
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  • you'll be saved,
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  • and so the challengeis believe it.
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  • If you don't, askGod to help you
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  • because even that is belief.
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  • It's the belief that God isable to help you believe.
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  • Faith is a gift.
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  • You can't work it up.
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  • It's not a feeling.
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  • It says, in secondCorinthians four
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  • that the enemy has blindedthe minds of unbelievers
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  • so they cannot see the light
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  • that is in the faceof Jesus Christ,
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  • but it is God who said,"Let there be light,"
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  • who was shown in our heartsto give us this light,
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  • so we need God tounveil our eyes
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  • where we can see that Jesus
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  • is the most beautifulbeing in all of the earth.
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  • You will not turn from yoursin because of fear of hell.
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  • You will turn from your sin
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  • when you see thatJesus is better
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  • than everything you have everloved in your entire life.
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  • - Beautiful, wow.(audience applauding)
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  • - So that's it.
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  • - With the heart, manbelieves under the salvation.
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  • With the mouth,confession is made.
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  • There's a telephonenumber on the screen.
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  • Jackie, we take
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  • about a million and a halftelephone calls a year
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  • in our call center here,
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  • and if you want to
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  • talk to somebody about Jesus,
  • 00:50:39.893 --> 00:50:43.463
  • that 800 number, it's an888 number's on the screen,
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  • and there's somebody thereto be ready to talk to you.
  • 00:50:46.333 --> 00:50:49.636
  • This program, all we've done
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  • (Laurie imitates sobbing)is unpack the book of Jude--
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  • - So good.
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  • - and talked about Jesus.
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  • That's what this networkwas raised up to do, Jackie.
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  • You've done an amazing job
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  • today.- Perfect.
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  • - We've got a coupleof minutes left.
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  • Take the book ofJude, and wrap it up,
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  • and give us an assignment
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  • in which to makeour lives better,
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  • and the lives
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  • of people around us.- You know, I have something.
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  • You know, it talksabout having compassion
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  • or reaching those thatwe're snatching out of hell.
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  • I think in 2020
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  • we've talked about howrelevant this is for now.
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  • Think there's a lot ofpeople that don't care.
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  • You know,(fingers snap)
  • 00:51:34.347 --> 00:51:35.282
  • the tempers are so quick to
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  • to snap, and you don't reallycare if someone goes to hell,
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  • (chuckles) you know?
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  • And I think
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  • you were just making theGospel so beautiful just now,
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  • but to care,
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  • and to help myunbelief, you know?
  • 00:51:53.967 --> 00:51:56.937
  • But to those who are quick
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  • to not care about
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  • other people, other...
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  • - Yeah, I think of Jonah.
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  • You know, Jonah wasdoing all that he could
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  • to keep himself fromhaving to preach the Gospel
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  • to people who weredifferent from him,
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  • to the point that he waswilling to jump off a ship
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  • to avoid preaching the Gospel--
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  • - Wow.- you know?
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  • And I think that weare all probably prone
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  • to that kind of apathy.
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  • First John talks abouthow your Christianity
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  • is to be called into question
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  • if you don't walk in love,
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  • and one of the waysyou walk in love
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  • is by showing compassionto people who need it,
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  • and so I guess, tothose who are apathetic,
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  • one prayer might be thatGod would show them that,
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  • to your point, I think overall,
  • 00:52:59.733 --> 00:53:03.470
  • man, Jesus is comingback, you know?
  • 00:53:03.470 --> 00:53:07.240
  • Like, he is on the way.
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  • I don't know whenhe's coming back.
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  • I don't know if it'sgonna be tonight.
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  • That would be great.
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  • I wouldn't have to domy hair ever again.
  • 00:53:14.247 --> 00:53:15.482
  • (Laurie laughing)(audience laughing)
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  • But I want as many peopleto go with me when he comes.
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  • - Yeah.- Yes.
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  • I just want to be in heaven
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  • with as many facesas I can possibly be,
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  • and the only waythat I could do that
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  • is to tell the truthto my neighbor,
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  • and there's somethingabout when you have met God
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  • that to talk aboutGod becomes impulsive,
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  • and so I think maybe weall need to be reminded
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  • that we are all miracles,
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  • that we all, in essence,are a kind of Lazarus.
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  • You can't tell me that whenLazarus rose from the dead
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  • he could not stoptalking about it,
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  • that he could notstop telling people,
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  • "Hey, y'all know I usedto be dead, right?"
  • 00:53:52.185 --> 00:53:54.321
  • (audience laughing)
  • 00:53:54.321 --> 00:53:55.388
  • "But Jesus came.
  • 00:53:55.388 --> 00:53:56.690
  • "I didn't even askhim to wake me up
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  • "because I couldn't speak."
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  • Dead people don't talk,
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  • but Ephesians said thatall of us were dead
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  • in our sin and trespasses,
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  • and so how is it(audience applauding)
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  • that God can make us alive
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  • and we don't wannaboast about it?
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  • You ain't even gotta knowa whole bunch of theology.
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  • If you just tell peoplewhat God did for you,
  • 00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:15.875
  • that is enough to save many,
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  • and so maybe we just needto get back to the truth
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  • that we are miracles.
  • 00:54:20.580 --> 00:54:21.848
  • Therefore, we needto tell people
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  • about the God who set us free.
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  • - Come on, that's so good.- Come away.
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  • (audience applauding)
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  • Wow.
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  • - I think you're--
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  • - So what I've taken away
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  • is sometimes you needto be very gentle
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  • and read the book ofJude to some people,
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  • and sometimes you need tosmack 'em upside the head
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  • (Laurie laughing)
  • 00:54:42.135 --> 00:54:43.269
  • - with the KJV, yeah.- Yeah, okay,
  • 00:54:43.269 --> 00:54:45.038
  • so your lastchallenge to all of us
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  • from the little,tiny book of Jude.
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  • - Do as Jude said, which isto contend for the faith,
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  • but as you do it, trust Godto help you to do it well.
  • 00:54:55.014 --> 00:54:58.585
  • - So good, Jackie.
  • 00:54:58.585 --> 00:55:00.019
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  • and they have this reallyamazingly fast service.
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  • This is available.
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  • The book of Jude
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  • has been completely studied,
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  • "Contending for the Faithin Today's Culture,"
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  • Jackie Hill Perry.
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  • It's available now.
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  • You can go on YouTube,all kinds of stuff--
  • 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.442
  • - [Jackie] Thank you.
  • 00:55:22.442 --> 00:55:23.276
  • - and watch.
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  • She's amazing.
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  • I love you, Jackie.
  • 00:55:25.578 --> 00:55:26.813
  • - [Jackie] I loveyou too, Laurie.
  • 00:55:26.813 --> 00:55:27.747
  • - I think you're amazing.
  • 00:55:27.747 --> 00:55:28.415
  • I really do.
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  • - We'll see you next time.- I'm your number-one fan.
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  • - Bye-bye.
  • 00:55:30.617 --> 00:55:31.751
  • (audience applauding)(upbeat music)
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