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  • ♪♪
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  • - TONIGHT ON PRAISE,FROM DALLAS, BEST-SELLING
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  • AUTHORS AND PSYCHOLOGYPROFESSORS, STATEWIDE
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  • MARRIAGE AMBASSADORS,LES AND LESLIE PARROTT.
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  • ♪♪
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  • - AND NOW MATTAND LAURIE CROUCH.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WELCOMETO DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • WE ARE WITH THE PARROTTS,BOTH LES AND LESLIE.
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  • NORMALLY WE SAY VERYQUICKLY, WHAT ARE WE
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  • TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUTTODAY IS GOING TO BE A
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  • LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTBECAUSE I WANT TO
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  • ACTUALLY GIVE YOUAN INTRODUCTION.
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  • I RARELY DO THAT.
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  • - LES: REALLY?
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - ALL RIGHT.
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  • BRING IT ON.
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  • - JOEL OSTEEN TELLS MEJUST GET RIGHT TO THE
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  • CONTENT, MATT.
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  • JUST GET RIGHTTO THE CONTENT.
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  • AND JOEL, I LOVE AND INORMALLY DO THAT,
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  • OKAY, SERIOUSLY.
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  • BUT THIS TIME I WANTTO INTRODUCE YOU.
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  • - ALL RIGHT.
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  • - LES ANDLESLIE, I JUST WANT TO
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  • USE YOUR OWN WORDS ASYOU DESCRIBED YOURSELF.
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  • - ALL RIGHT.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • THAT YOU'RE IMPATIENT--[LAUGHTER] LIKE
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  • EXCLUSIVE PRIVILEGES.
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  • YOU'RE JUDGMENTAL.
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  • YOU'RE INSENSITIVE,PETTY, RESENTFUL, AND
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  • YOU'RE CHEAP AND STINGY.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH:WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
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  • - OF ALL THEINTRODUCTIONS WE'VE EVER HAD,
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  • THIS IS THE ONEI WALK OUT ON.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - THAT'S GOOD.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • SO BUT YOU SAY YOU WANTTO LOVE LIKE JESUS.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - BUT YOU'REALL THOSE THINGS.
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • - HOW DO WE GET FROM WHOYOU REALLY ARE TO JESUS?
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  • - WELL, ISN'T THAT THECASE, WHEN YOU DECIDE TO
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  • WRITE A BOOK ON HOW TOLOVE LIKE JESUS, FIRST OF
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  • ALL, YOU REMEMBER THATOLD ADAGE THAT, I DON'T
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  • KNOW WHO SAID IT, BUT OH,THAT MY ENEMY WOULD WRITE
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  • A BOOK.
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  • RIGHT?
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  • THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTYOUR ENEMY TO WRITE, RIGHT?
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  • OH SURE, TELL ME HOW TOLOVE LIKE JESUS, RIGHT.
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  • IN FACT, THAT'S-THAT'S WHY LESLIE IS
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  • WITH ME.
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  • I WROTE THIS BOOK ON MYOWN, BUT I SAID I WANT
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  • LESLIE HERE NOT AS AWITNESS BUT AS A --
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  • - LESLIE: AN ACCOUNTABILITYPARTNER.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - RIGHT.
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  • SO I'LL GET STRUCKBY LIGHTNING.
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  • - HE'S GOT A WHOLEACCOUNTABILITY GROUP.
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  • - I REMEMBER WHEN THISBOOK WAS JUST COMING OUT,
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  • AND OUR SON JACKSON WASMAYBE 12, 13, SOMETHING
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  • LIKE THAT.
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  • AND WE HAD ONE OF THOSEPARENTING INTERACTIONS
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  • WHERE MAYBE IWASN'T AT MY BEST.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • YEAH.
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  • - AND AS HE WAS WALKINGAWAY HE SAID, WELL, LOVE
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  • LIKE JESUS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SO I FELT LIKE YOUKNOW, I GOTTA START THIS
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  • BOOK WITH SOMEAUTHENTICITY AND WRITE
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  • THE WHOLE THING WITHAUTHENTICITY
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  • AND VULNERABILITY.
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  • SO I REALLY DO.
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  • THAT'S HOW I START THEBOOK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A
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  • SOFT HEARTED POET.
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  • I'M NOT A PEOPLEPLEASING IDEALIST.
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  • I LIVE WITH FULL THROTTLEAMBITION, NO SHORTAGE OF
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  • SELF INTEREST.
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  • I'M IMPATIENT,SOMETIMES INSECURE.
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  • I JOCKEY FOR POSITION,AND I LIKE
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  • EXCLUSIVE PRIVILEGES.
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  • [LAUGHTER] CANYOU IDENTIFY?
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  • [LAUGHTER] I CAN BEJUDGMENTAL, INSENSITIVE,
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  • PETTY, AND RESENTFUL.
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  • OH, AND I CAN BE CHEAPAND STINGY BUT --
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  • - BUT.
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  • - I WANT TOLOVE LIKE JESUS.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - SO IF ANYBODY'S TUNINGIN GOING I CAN IDENTIFY
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  • WITH THAT, THIS BOOK ISFOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S
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  • REALLY ALL OFUS, ISN'T IT?
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  • DID ANYBODY WAKE UP THISMORNING AND GO HEY, I
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  • THINK AS A CHRISTIANI'VE DONE IT?
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  • I CAN CHECK ITOFF MY LIST.
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  • I LOVE LIKE JESUS, RIGHT.
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  • WE'RE ALL IN PROCESS,SO THAT'S THE BOOK.
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  • - THIS MORNINGESPECIALLY I DIDN'T WAKE
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  • UP IN REGARD TOTHINKING THAT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • LOVE LIKE THAT IS WHATWE'RE GOING TO BE
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  • UNPACKING AND THEPARROTTS, THANK YOU FOR
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  • COMING HERE TO DALLAS,TEXAS TO KIND OF DO
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  • THIS THING.
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  • ALL RIGHT.
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  • I WANT TO POINT OUT ALSOTHAT THE ONE DESCRIPTION
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  • OF YOURSELF THAT YOUDIDN'T, YOU KNOW, DIVULGE
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  • BUT CLEARLY I KNOW ABOUTIS YOU'RE A COMPLETE
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  • CONTROL FREAK.
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  • - I WAS WONDERING IFTHIS WAS GOING TO BE A
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  • COMPLIMENT OR NOTSO I GUESS NOT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - THE DOCTOR PART.
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  • - I REALIZE I BROUGHTHER FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE
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  • I'M GOING TO BETHERAPY AFTER THIS.
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  • - WELCOME TO MY WORLD.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - BASICALLY I GOT A NOTEHANDED TO ME PRIOR TO THE
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  • SHOW THAT BASICALLY,LOOK, I'M PARAPHRASING
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  • SOME BUT IT BASICALLYSAID JUST INTRODUCE US
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  • AND LEAVE IT TO US.
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  • WE GOT IT.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - THEY DON'TNEED NO HOST.
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  • - IF WE WANT TOREINTRODUCE THE CHAPTER
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  • HEADINGS EVERY ONCEIN A WHILE, GO AHEAD.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - THAT IS PRICELESS.
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  • - DO YOU KNOW I WROTE ABOOK CALLED THE
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  • CONTROL FREAK?
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  • - I KNOW THAT.
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  • - LESLIE SAYS THAT'SMY AUTO BIOGRAPHY.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - SO AS WE GET INTO THISTODAY, I WANT YOU TO KNOW
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  • THAT I'VE READ THISBOOK COVER TO COVER.
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  • I DID IT NOT EVEN INPREP FOR THIS INTERVIEW.
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  • I READ THIS BOOK, AND IREAD IT COVER TO COVER,
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  • AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOUEARLIER BUT I WANT TO SAY
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  • IT HERE PUBLICLY, THISIS GOING TO HURT THE
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  • FEELINGS OF SOME OF MYFRIENDS, AND I HAVE ONE
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  • OR TWO FRIENDS THAT HAVEWRITTEN A BOOK OR TWO,
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  • [LAUGHTER] BUT LITERALLY, LES,AND I'M NOT
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  • JOKING NOW, THIS ISLITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST
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  • BOOKS I'VE EVER READ, IFNOT THE BEST BOOK I'VE
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  • EVER READ.
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  • - THAT'S JUSTINCREDIBLE.
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  • - SAVING OBVIOUSLYSCRIPTURE.
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  • YOU'RE NOT HOLY.
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  • - BUT I WANT TOLIVE LIKE JESUS.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - YEAH.
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  • ALL THOSE THINGS BUT --- YOU WRITE A GREAT BOOK.
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  • - I COULDN'T POSSIBLYENDORSE THIS BOOK MORE
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  • THAN TO TELL YOU THAT NOTONLY IS IT THE PRACTICAL
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  • LOVE LIKE JESUS, IT'SSERIOUS, BUT YOU
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  • BREAKDOWN THE PARABLES.
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  • IT'S REALLY ONE OF THEBEST BOOKS I'VE EVER READ
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  • IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
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  • - THAT'S SO GOOD.
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  • - NOW, THIS IS A BUCKETLIST FOR ME BECAUSE I
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  • CARE ABOUT THIS CONTENT.
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  • I CARE ABOUT IT DEEPLY.
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  • WE'RE HERE, WE'RE GOINGTO UNPACK IT FOR AS LONG
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  • AS WE NEED TO SITHERE AND DO THIS.
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  • SO WITH THAT SAID, LES,CONTROL FREAK VERSION --
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  • - YES.
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  • I BETTER STARTREADING THIS BOOK.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TOSTART THIS INTERVIEW?
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  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASKYOURSELF YOUR
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  • FIRST QUESTION?
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - TAKE IT AWAY.
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  • - I WANT TO HEAR YOUTALK IN THE THIRD PERSON.
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  • - DOCTOR PARROTT,WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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  • WELL, LET ME --[LAUGHTER]
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  • - WELL, I KNOW YOU'REGENUINE BECAUSE YOU
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  • CALLED ME JUST BEFORE THEHOLIDAYS AND TOLD ME, YOU
  • 00:07:01.567 --> 00:07:04.737
  • GUYS I THINK WERE AROUNDTHE KITCHEN TABLE.
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  • AND MAYBE IT WAS LAURIE,YOU CALLED LESLIE.
  • 00:07:06.606 --> 00:07:08.274
  • - I THINK THAT'SWHAT IT WAS.
  • 00:07:08.274 --> 00:07:10.343
  • - AND YOU GUYS WERETALKING ABOUT BOOKS
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  • YOU'VE ENJOYED THIS BOOK,SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
  • 00:07:11.577 --> 00:07:15.214
  • THAT DOES FOR AN AUTHOR'SHEART TO HEAR THAT
  • 00:07:15.214 --> 00:07:17.116
  • BECAUSE YOU WORK HARDON THIS AND JUST HOPE
  • 00:07:17.116 --> 00:07:20.386
  • SOMEBODY BESIDES YOURMOTHER IS GOING TO READ IT.
  • 00:07:20.386 --> 00:07:22.688
  • SO THAT'S VERY KIND OFYOU, BUT I GOT TO TELL
  • 00:07:22.688 --> 00:07:26.626
  • YOU, THIS IS A BOOKUNLIKE ANY OTHER BOOK,
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  • YOU KNOW, I'VE WRITTENBECAUSE IT HITS AT THE
  • 00:07:28.995 --> 00:07:33.466
  • CORE OF OUR DEEPESTLONGINGS, AT LEAST IF
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  • YOU'RE FOLLOWING CHRIST,YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW DO I
  • 00:07:36.168 --> 00:07:39.505
  • LOVE LIKE JESUS.
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  • - YEAH.
  • 00:07:40.740 --> 00:07:41.841
  • - AND THAT JUST SEEMSLIKE SAYING TO SOMEBODY
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  • HEY, GO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST ANDSTART TOMORROW.
  • 00:07:44.410 --> 00:07:48.614
  • I DON'T EVENKNOW WHERE TO BEGIN.
  • 00:07:48.614 --> 00:07:49.782
  • AND I REMEMBER AS WE WEREFLYING DOWN HERE, YOU
  • 00:07:49.782 --> 00:07:53.920
  • HAVE THOSE QUIET TIMES ONAN AIRPLANE, SOMETIMES
  • 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:56.589
  • WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THEMOTHERWISE BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:07:56.589 --> 00:07:58.157
  • CAN'T GET INTERRUPTED,AND I WAS READING IN MY
  • 00:07:58.157 --> 00:08:00.626
  • DEVOTIONS YEARS BEFOREI WROTE THIS OUT OF
  • 00:08:00.626 --> 00:08:02.828
  • EPHESIANS 5, AND I READTHIS LITTLE PASSAGE.
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  • IT'S ON A PAGEIN THE BOOK.
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  • IT SAYS, OBSERVE HOWCHRIST -THIS IS PAUL
  • 00:08:08.634 --> 00:08:10.636
  • TALKING -- HE SAYS, OBSERVEHOW CHRIST LOVED US.
  • 00:08:10.636 --> 00:08:13.706
  • HIS LOVE WAS NOT CAUTIOUSBUT EXTRAVAGANT.
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  • ALL RIGHT.
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  • HE DIDN'T LOVE IN ORDERTO GET SOMETHING FROM US
  • 00:08:19.078 --> 00:08:22.014
  • BUT TO GIVE EVERYTHINGOF HIMSELF TO US.
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  • ALL RIGHT.
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  • AND THEN PAUL PUTS INTHIS LITTLE THREE WORD
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  • SENTENCE ALMOST LIKEFLIPPANTLY IT SOUNDS LIKE
  • 00:08:29.422 --> 00:08:33.092
  • TO ME.
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  • LOVE LIKE THAT.
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  • LOVE LIKE THAT?
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  • ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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  • HOW DO YOULOVE LIKE THAT?
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  • THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE,I'VE READ IT A MILLION
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  • TIMES, YOU KNOW, AND YETIT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME.
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  • HOW DO YOULOVE LIKE THAT?
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  • BECAUSE THAT'S REALLYWHAT THE GOSPEL IS ALL ABOUT.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • - THAT'S WHY WE FOLLOWJESUS, TO LOVE LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:08:50.443 --> 00:08:52.111
  • SO AS A PSYCHOLOGIST IREMEMBER I CAME HOME FROM
  • 00:08:52.111 --> 00:08:55.448
  • THAT TRIP AND I TOLDLESLIE, I SAID I'VE GOT
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  • SOMETHING IN ME THATHAS TO BE QUENCHED.
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  • I HAVE A THIRST TOUNDERSTAND IN PRAGMATIC
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  • TERMS AND NOT JUST WITHMY MIND AND NOT
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  • QUOTING SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:09:06.626 --> 00:09:08.327
  • HOW DO YOU REALLYLIVE THAT OUT?
  • 00:09:08.327 --> 00:09:10.596
  • BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKETHE BAR IS SO HIGH.
  • 00:09:10.596 --> 00:09:13.666
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:09:13.666 --> 00:09:14.433
  • - SO UNOBTAINABLE.
  • 00:09:14.433 --> 00:09:16.035
  • I DON'T KNOWHOW TO DO THAT.
  • 00:09:16.035 --> 00:09:18.170
  • - YOU KNOW, AND WHENPAUL SAID THAT, HE WASN'T
  • 00:09:18.170 --> 00:09:22.041
  • DEALING WITH CONTESTEDELECTIONS AND RACIAL
  • 00:09:22.041 --> 00:09:25.277
  • ISSUES LIKE WE HAD AND IDON'T THINK THERE WAS A
  • 00:09:25.277 --> 00:09:29.248
  • PANDEMIC RAVAGING THEEARTH AT THAT TIME.
  • 00:09:29.248 --> 00:09:32.218
  • SO THAT'S WHY THIS BOOKIS SO MEANINGFUL TO US,
  • 00:09:32.218 --> 00:09:36.022
  • AND WE'RE ABOUT TOUNPACK THE WHOLE THING.
  • 00:09:36.022 --> 00:09:37.790
  • - WELL, YEAH.
  • 00:09:37.790 --> 00:09:38.858
  • IT IS.
  • 00:09:38.858 --> 00:09:40.126
  • AND I WISH THAT I COULDSIT HERE AND SAY HEY,
  • 00:09:40.126 --> 00:09:42.662
  • GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:09:42.662 --> 00:09:43.729
  • I GOT IT LOCKED IN.
  • 00:09:43.729 --> 00:09:45.464
  • I'VE DONE IT.
  • 00:09:45.464 --> 00:09:46.532
  • YOU KNOW, I'VEFIGURED IT OUT.
  • 00:09:46.532 --> 00:09:47.967
  • WE'RE ALL IN PROCESS,BUT I DO FEEL LIKE I
  • 00:09:47.967 --> 00:09:50.302
  • FOUND SOME REALLYPRAGMATIC STEPPING STONES
  • 00:09:50.302 --> 00:09:53.606
  • THAT CAN GET YOUCLOSER THAN EVER.
  • 00:09:53.606 --> 00:09:55.241
  • I FEEL LIKE IT'S DOABLE.
  • 00:09:55.241 --> 00:09:56.809
  • THAT'S ONE THING ILEARNED IN THIS PROCESS.
  • 00:09:56.809 --> 00:09:58.477
  • WHEN JESUS TALKED TO USABOUT LOVING LIKE HE
  • 00:09:58.477 --> 00:10:01.113
  • LOVES, IT WASN'T LIKESOME POETIC NOTION OF
  • 00:10:01.113 --> 00:10:04.517
  • HEY, WOULDN'T THAT BEAWESOME, WOULDN'T
  • 00:10:04.517 --> 00:10:06.752
  • THAT BE COOL.
  • 00:10:06.752 --> 00:10:08.421
  • NO, HE WAS SAYINGYOU CAN DO THIS.
  • 00:10:08.421 --> 00:10:10.756
  • HOW DO YOU DO IT?
  • 00:10:10.756 --> 00:10:11.691
  • THAT'S THE TRICK.
  • 00:10:11.691 --> 00:10:12.491
  • HOW DO YOU DO IT?
  • 00:10:12.491 --> 00:10:13.659
  • AND I FEEL LIKE REALLYAFTER WRITING THIS BOOK
  • 00:10:13.659 --> 00:10:16.562
  • FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MYADULT LIFE, I FINALLY GET
  • 00:10:16.562 --> 00:10:19.131
  • WHAT JESUS WAS ACTUALLYSAYING ABOUT LOVE LIKE
  • 00:10:19.131 --> 00:10:21.967
  • THAT, WHAT PAUL WASSAYING ABOUT LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:10:21.967 --> 00:10:24.303
  • I THINK IT IS DOABLE MORETHAN WE EVER REALIZED.
  • 00:10:24.303 --> 00:10:27.506
  • IN THE NITTY-GRITTY OFOUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH
  • 00:10:27.506 --> 00:10:31.544
  • OUR SPOUSE AND WITHOUR KIDS AND WITH OUR
  • 00:10:31.544 --> 00:10:33.913
  • COLLEAGUES AND WITHEVEN STRANGERS.
  • 00:10:33.913 --> 00:10:36.248
  • WE CAN LOVE LIKE JESUSBETTER THAN WE PROBABLY
  • 00:10:36.248 --> 00:10:39.785
  • THINK WE CAN.
  • 00:10:39.785 --> 00:10:40.786
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:10:40.786 --> 00:10:41.520
  • OKAY.
  • 00:10:41.520 --> 00:10:42.588
  • CHAPTER 1 SAYS MINDFUL.
  • 00:10:42.588 --> 00:10:45.124
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:10:45.124 --> 00:10:46.325
  • - WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
  • 00:10:46.325 --> 00:10:48.160
  • - SO HERE'S WHAT I DID.
  • 00:10:48.160 --> 00:10:50.296
  • I LOOKED AT THEINTERSECTION BETWEEN WHAT
  • 00:10:50.296 --> 00:10:53.999
  • CHRIST TAUGHT AND SOMESALIENT MOMENTS IN HIS
  • 00:10:53.999 --> 00:10:57.136
  • LIFE TO COME UP WITHWHAT ARE THESE THINGS.
  • 00:10:57.136 --> 00:10:59.972
  • AND I CAME UP WITH FIVE.
  • 00:10:59.972 --> 00:11:01.240
  • THIS IS NOT ANEXHAUSTIVE LIST.
  • 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:02.775
  • THERE'S LOTS OF THINGSTHAT YOU CAN DO TO LOVE
  • 00:11:02.775 --> 00:11:05.111
  • LIKE JESUS, BUT I CAME UPWITH FIVE, AND THE FIRST
  • 00:11:05.111 --> 00:11:07.813
  • ONE IS TO BE MINDFULBECAUSE ONE THING WE KNOW
  • 00:11:07.813 --> 00:11:11.217
  • ABOUT JESUS WAS HE --HEWAS ABLE TO SEE THINGS
  • 00:11:11.217 --> 00:11:16.355
  • THAT OTHER PEOPLEDIDN'T SEE.
  • 00:11:16.355 --> 00:11:17.890
  • AND THAT ONLY HAPPENSWHEN YOU'RE MINDFUL.
  • 00:11:17.890 --> 00:11:19.792
  • SO THINK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:11:19.792 --> 00:11:21.026
  • LET THAT SINK IN JUST FORA LITTLE SECOND THERE.
  • 00:11:21.026 --> 00:11:23.095
  • IF YOU WANT TO LOVE LIKEJESUS, YOU'VE GOT TO SEE
  • 00:11:23.095 --> 00:11:25.698
  • WHAT OTHERPEOPLE DON'T SEE.
  • 00:11:25.698 --> 00:11:27.800
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:29.101
  • - AND YOU KNOW, LESLIEAND I WE USED TO TEACH AT
  • 00:11:29.101 --> 00:11:32.304
  • A UNIVERSITY IN SEATTLE,AND I USED TO LOVE DOING
  • 00:11:32.304 --> 00:11:35.975
  • THIS LITTLE EXERCISEWITH MY CLASS.
  • 00:11:35.975 --> 00:11:38.010
  • I HAD ABOUT 300 STUDENTSIN THIS AUDITORIUM FOR
  • 00:11:38.010 --> 00:11:40.246
  • GENERAL PSYCHOLOGY.
  • 00:11:40.246 --> 00:11:41.914
  • AND SOMETIMES YOU'D COTEACH THAT WITH ME.
  • 00:11:41.914 --> 00:11:43.649
  • AND ANYWAY I'D HAVE THESESTUDENTS COME IN ON ONE
  • 00:11:43.649 --> 00:11:45.384
  • DAY AND IT WAS ALECTURE ON PERCEPTION.
  • 00:11:45.384 --> 00:11:48.053
  • AND I SHOWED THISLITTLE VIDEO.
  • 00:11:48.053 --> 00:11:50.890
  • HAVE YOU HEARD OF THISVIDEO ABOUT THE GORILLA
  • 00:11:50.890 --> 00:11:53.993
  • AND THE BASKETBALL.
  • 00:11:53.993 --> 00:11:55.427
  • DO YOU KNOW THAT STORY?
  • 00:11:55.427 --> 00:11:57.363
  • - YES, BECAUSEWE READ YOUR BOOK.
  • 00:11:57.363 --> 00:11:58.664
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:58.664 --> 00:12:00.633
  • - RIGHT ANSWER.
  • 00:12:00.633 --> 00:12:01.700
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:12:01.700 --> 00:12:03.569
  • - SO I SHOW THIS LITTLEVIDEO, AND IT'S 2 TEAMS.
  • 00:12:03.569 --> 00:12:06.038
  • ONE IS WEARING BLACKSHIRTS, ONE IS WHITE
  • 00:12:06.038 --> 00:12:07.072
  • SHIRTS, AND THEY'REPASSING A BASKETBALL
  • 00:12:07.072 --> 00:12:09.441
  • AROUND, AND I TELL THESTUDENTS HEY, COUNT HOW
  • 00:12:09.441 --> 00:12:11.710
  • MANY TIMES THE GUYS INTHE WHITE SHIRTS THROW
  • 00:12:11.710 --> 00:12:14.280
  • THE BASKETBALL.
  • 00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:15.581
  • THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKEFOR JUST 2 MINUTES
  • 00:12:15.581 --> 00:12:17.583
  • OF THE VIDEO.
  • 00:12:17.583 --> 00:12:18.951
  • SO THESE 300 STUDENTSTHEY ALL GET LOCKED IN ON
  • 00:12:18.951 --> 00:12:20.653
  • THE SCREEN AND IT'S THISHUGE SCREEN IN THE ROOM.
  • 00:12:20.653 --> 00:12:22.922
  • AND THEY WATCH IT.
  • 00:12:22.922 --> 00:12:23.923
  • AND IT ENDS.
  • 00:12:23.923 --> 00:12:25.191
  • SO I STEP BACK UP ON THESTAGE AND I SAID SO, HOW
  • 00:12:25.191 --> 00:12:28.294
  • MANY OF YOU SAWTHE GORILLA?
  • 00:12:28.294 --> 00:12:31.497
  • AND THEY ALL START TOLOOK AROUND LIKE, DOCTOR
  • 00:12:31.497 --> 00:12:33.465
  • PARROTT'S LOST IT.
  • 00:12:33.465 --> 00:12:34.600
  • HE'S HALLUCINATING.
  • 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:35.634
  • HE DIDN'T TAKE HISMEDICATION TODAY.
  • 00:12:35.634 --> 00:12:37.269
  • WHAT'S GOING ON?
  • 00:12:37.269 --> 00:12:38.604
  • AND I SAID LET ME SHOW ITTO YOU AGAIN, BUT THIS
  • 00:12:38.604 --> 00:12:41.273
  • TIME DON'T COUNT.
  • 00:12:41.273 --> 00:12:42.341
  • JUST WATCH THE VIDEO.
  • 00:12:42.341 --> 00:12:43.542
  • IT'S THE EXACTSAME VIDEO.
  • 00:12:43.542 --> 00:12:44.610
  • AND I SHOW IT.
  • 00:12:44.610 --> 00:12:45.744
  • AND ABOUT TEN SECONDSINTO THESE GUYS THROWING
  • 00:12:45.744 --> 00:12:48.781
  • THE BASKETBALL AROUND,THIS GUY IN A GORILLA
  • 00:12:48.781 --> 00:12:50.516
  • SUIT WALKS INTO FRAME.
  • 00:12:50.516 --> 00:12:52.918
  • STANDS IN THE MIDDLE,BEATS HIS CHEST, AND THEN
  • 00:12:52.918 --> 00:12:55.421
  • WALKS OFF FRAME.
  • 00:12:55.421 --> 00:12:57.389
  • WELL, THE STUDENTSSOME OF THEM START
  • 00:12:57.389 --> 00:12:58.724
  • DYING LAUGHING.
  • 00:12:58.724 --> 00:13:00.159
  • SOME ARE AGHAST.
  • 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.460
  • THEY'RE SPEECHLESS, ANDSOME OF THEM START TO
  • 00:13:01.460 --> 00:13:03.495
  • ACCUSE ME OF SHOWINGA DIFFERENT VIDEO.
  • 00:13:03.495 --> 00:13:05.264
  • - VIDEO.
  • 00:13:05.264 --> 00:13:06.232
  • - BUT THIS IS AREALLY FAMOUS STUDY.
  • 00:13:06.232 --> 00:13:08.334
  • CAME OUT OF HARVARD.
  • 00:13:08.334 --> 00:13:09.401
  • IT'S BEEN REPLICATED INALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT
  • 00:13:09.401 --> 00:13:11.637
  • WAYS, AND IT'S APERCEPTION, IT
  • 00:13:11.637 --> 00:13:15.074
  • ILLUSTRATES PERCEPTUALBLINDNESS THAT SO
  • 00:13:15.074 --> 00:13:17.276
  • MANY TIMES WE DON'T SEEWHAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.
  • 00:13:17.276 --> 00:13:19.912
  • WHY? BECAUSE WE HAVEAN AGENDA.
  • 00:13:19.912 --> 00:13:22.615
  • WE HAVE A TASK.
  • 00:13:22.615 --> 00:13:23.883
  • AND OUR AGENDAS WHENWE'RE NOT MINDFUL KEEP US
  • 00:13:23.883 --> 00:13:29.054
  • FROM LOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:13:29.054 --> 00:13:30.189
  • WE HAVE AN AGENDA.
  • 00:13:30.189 --> 00:13:31.323
  • WHAT ARE YOU GOING TODO AFTER THIS SHOW? RIGHT.
  • 00:13:31.323 --> 00:13:32.925
  • WHAT ARE YOU GOINGTO DO TOMORROW?
  • 00:13:32.925 --> 00:13:34.894
  • YOU HAVE AN AGENDAABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S
  • 00:13:34.894 --> 00:13:36.562
  • PERPETUALLY BEINGUPDATED THAT KEEPS US
  • 00:13:36.562 --> 00:13:38.497
  • BEING MINDFUL.
  • 00:13:38.497 --> 00:13:39.899
  • - OUR AGENDASPREOCCUPY US, AND THEY
  • 00:13:39.899 --> 00:13:42.301
  • DRAW OUR ATTENTION AWAYFROM BEING PERCEPTIVE IN
  • 00:13:42.301 --> 00:13:46.372
  • THE MOMENT.
  • 00:13:46.372 --> 00:13:47.439
  • JESUS WAS PERCEPTIVEBEYOND, AND THAT'S KIND
  • 00:13:47.439 --> 00:13:51.343
  • OF THIS QUALITY.
  • 00:13:51.343 --> 00:13:52.344
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:13:52.344 --> 00:13:53.545
  • AND IT'S A LITTLE BITLIKE I SOMETIMES EQUATE
  • 00:13:53.545 --> 00:13:55.915
  • IT TO WEARING MIRROREDSUNGLASSES, AND LIKE
  • 00:13:55.915 --> 00:13:59.184
  • YOU'VE TAKEN THE LENSESOUT AND YOU FLIP THEM
  • 00:13:59.184 --> 00:14:01.654
  • AROUND, AND YOU PUT THEMBACK IN THE FRAMES AND
  • 00:14:01.654 --> 00:14:04.323
  • YOU LOOK OUT AT THE WORLDAND ALL YOU SEE ARE OUR
  • 00:14:04.323 --> 00:14:06.392
  • OWN NEEDS EVERYWHEREYOU GO, RIGHT.
  • 00:14:06.392 --> 00:14:08.260
  • AND WE JUST KIND OFGET USED TO THAT.
  • 00:14:08.260 --> 00:14:11.030
  • AND JESUS SAID NO, IF YOUWANT TO LOVE LIKE THAT,
  • 00:14:11.030 --> 00:14:15.768
  • HE SAID BE MINDFUL.
  • 00:14:15.768 --> 00:14:17.903
  • SEE, LOOK FOR THINGSOTHER PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING.
  • 00:14:17.903 --> 00:14:20.806
  • - WOW.
  • 00:14:20.806 --> 00:14:21.840
  • - AND ONE GREATEXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE
  • 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.910
  • STORY OF ZACCHEUS.
  • 00:14:24.910 --> 00:14:26.145
  • SO WE ALL GREW UP WITHTHAT STORY, AND IF YOU
  • 00:14:26.145 --> 00:14:30.449
  • LOOK AT IT AS AN ADULTAND YOU LOOK AT WHAT MUST
  • 00:14:30.449 --> 00:14:34.153
  • HAVE TAKEN PLACE THERE,THIS MAN THAT EVERYBODY
  • 00:14:34.153 --> 00:14:37.323
  • DESPISED, HE WASA TAX COLLECTOR.
  • 00:14:37.323 --> 00:14:39.391
  • TOTALLY DESPISED IN THOSEDAYS BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:14:39.391 --> 00:14:41.260
  • JEWISH CULTUREAND SO FORTH.
  • 00:14:41.260 --> 00:14:43.128
  • - WELL, THEYWERE CONSIDERED
  • 00:14:43.128 --> 00:14:44.063
  • TOTAL BETRAYERS.
  • 00:14:44.063 --> 00:14:45.164
  • THEY WERE GETTING RICH ONTHE BACKS OF THEIR OWN.
  • 00:14:45.164 --> 00:14:47.533
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:14:47.533 --> 00:14:48.567
  • SO JESUS COMES INTO TOWNAND THERE'S SO MUCH
  • 00:14:48.567 --> 00:14:52.504
  • COMMOTION ABOUT THISPROPHET, THIS GUY THAT IS
  • 00:14:52.504 --> 00:14:56.475
  • SAYING THESE INCREDIBLETHINGS, SO ZACCHEUS WANTS
  • 00:14:56.475 --> 00:14:58.777
  • TO GET A LOOK AT HIM, ANDHE COMES IN AND AS WE ALL
  • 00:14:58.777 --> 00:15:02.081
  • KNOW HE CLIMBS UP THETREE TO GET A BETTER
  • 00:15:02.081 --> 00:15:03.582
  • LOOK, AND MAYBETO HIDE EVEN.
  • 00:15:03.582 --> 00:15:04.917
  • WE DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:15:04.917 --> 00:15:06.118
  • HE MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO BE NOTSEEN BECAUSE EVERYBODY
  • 00:15:06.118 --> 00:15:08.587
  • DESPISED HIM SO MUCH.
  • 00:15:08.587 --> 00:15:09.888
  • SO JESUS COMES IN THESITUATION AND
  • 00:15:09.888 --> 00:15:12.091
  • UTTERS ONE WORD.ZACCHEUS.
  • 00:15:12.091 --> 00:15:14.026
  • WHAT?
  • 00:15:14.026 --> 00:15:17.229
  • CAN YOU IMAGINE BEINGCALLED OUT LIKE THAT?
  • 00:15:17.229 --> 00:15:19.698
  • AND HE SAW SOMETHING INTHAT MAN THAT EVERYBODY
  • 00:15:19.698 --> 00:15:23.402
  • ELSE DESPISED THATNOBODY ELSE SAW.
  • 00:15:23.402 --> 00:15:25.304
  • HE SAW A BROKEN MAN.
  • 00:15:25.304 --> 00:15:26.438
  • HE SAW A MAN THAT WASTIRED OF LIVING THE WAY
  • 00:15:26.438 --> 00:15:29.208
  • THAT HE WAS.
  • 00:15:29.208 --> 00:15:30.309
  • HE SAW A MAN THAT WASTIRED OF BEING SELFISH,
  • 00:15:30.309 --> 00:15:32.144
  • TIRED OF BEING --- DISHONEST.
  • 00:15:32.144 --> 00:15:36.215
  • - YES.
  • 00:15:36.215 --> 00:15:37.583
  • AND CALLED HIM OUT ANDSAID YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S
  • 00:15:37.583 --> 00:15:39.685
  • GO TO STARBUCKS.
  • 00:15:39.685 --> 00:15:40.686
  • LET'S SIT DOWN.
  • 00:15:40.686 --> 00:15:41.754
  • LET'S TALK THIS THINGTHROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:15:41.754 --> 00:15:43.322
  • AND YOU CAN'T DO THATUNLESS YOU'RE MINDFUL.
  • 00:15:43.322 --> 00:15:46.058
  • - SO JESUS IS SHOWINGUS BEING MINDFUL.
  • 00:15:46.058 --> 00:15:51.030
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:52.297
  • - BEYOND THE OBVIOUS,BEYOND YOUR OWN AGENDA,
  • 00:15:52.297 --> 00:15:55.067
  • BEYOND YOUR BUSYDAY, YOUR SCHEDULE.
  • 00:15:55.067 --> 00:15:57.903
  • STOP.
  • 00:15:57.903 --> 00:15:59.138
  • NOTICE SOMEBODY.
  • 00:15:59.138 --> 00:16:00.672
  • DO SOMETHING OUTOF THE ORDINARY.
  • 00:16:00.672 --> 00:16:02.541
  • THAT'S LOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:16:02.541 --> 00:16:03.709
  • - IF YOU WERE TO LOVELIKE JESUS, YOU'VE GOT TO
  • 00:16:03.709 --> 00:16:05.544
  • SEE WHAT OTHERPEOPLE DON'T SEE.
  • 00:16:05.544 --> 00:16:07.546
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:16:07.546 --> 00:16:08.714
  • - AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT'SRIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
  • 00:16:08.714 --> 00:16:10.149
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO GOLOOKING FOR WAYS.
  • 00:16:10.149 --> 00:16:11.517
  • - BEATING ITS CHEST.
  • 00:16:11.517 --> 00:16:13.185
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:13.185 --> 00:16:15.087
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:16:15.087 --> 00:16:15.888
  • - HOW MANY SAWTHE GORILLA?
  • 00:16:15.888 --> 00:16:17.456
  • BUT IT'S WHEN YOU COMEHOME AT THE END OF THE
  • 00:16:17.456 --> 00:16:19.024
  • DAY, AND YOU SEE YOURTODDLER ON THE FLOOR, AND
  • 00:16:19.024 --> 00:16:22.961
  • YOU HAVE AN AGENDABECAUSE I GOTTA GET TO MY
  • 00:16:22.961 --> 00:16:24.997
  • E-MAIL OR I GOTTA GETTO THIS OTHER THING.
  • 00:16:24.997 --> 00:16:26.665
  • WHAT'S FOR DINNER?
  • 00:16:26.665 --> 00:16:27.800
  • WHATEVER.
  • 00:16:27.800 --> 00:16:28.901
  • BUT IT'S PUTTING DOWNYOUR STUFF AND TAKING OFF
  • 00:16:28.901 --> 00:16:30.736
  • YOUR SHOES AND GETTINGON THAT FLOOR WITH THAT
  • 00:16:30.736 --> 00:16:32.538
  • LITTLE TODDLERAND BEING PRESENT.
  • 00:16:32.538 --> 00:16:34.440
  • THAT'S LOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:36.809
  • THAT'S HOLY GROUNDRIGHT THERE, RIGHT.
  • 00:16:36.809 --> 00:16:38.811
  • IT'S NOT A BIGEXTRAVAGANT.
  • 00:16:38.811 --> 00:16:40.846
  • SOMETIMES OH, IF WE'REGOING TO LOVE LIKE JESUS
  • 00:16:40.846 --> 00:16:42.247
  • I BETTER GOOGLE THAT.
  • 00:16:42.247 --> 00:16:44.516
  • I GOTTA FIGURE OUT SOME --- START AN ORGANIZATION.
  • 00:16:44.516 --> 00:16:46.618
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:16:46.618 --> 00:16:48.954
  • - GALLANT GESTURES.
  • 00:16:48.954 --> 00:16:50.255
  • - BUT WE DO IT IN BIGWAYS AND SMALL WAYS, BUT
  • 00:16:50.255 --> 00:16:51.957
  • IT BEGINS, YOU'RE EXACTLYRIGHT, IT BEGINS BY
  • 00:16:51.957 --> 00:16:54.660
  • SEEING WHAT OTHERPEOPLE DON'T SEE.
  • 00:16:54.660 --> 00:16:57.196
  • AND THAT'S BEING MINDFUL.
  • 00:16:57.196 --> 00:16:58.764
  • - THERE WAS THIS LITTLECOMPANY THAT SOME OF YOU
  • 00:16:58.764 --> 00:17:02.768
  • MIGHT HAVE HEARD OFCALLED EHARMONY THAT
  • 00:17:02.768 --> 00:17:05.037
  • THESE FOLKS WERE A PARTOF KIND OF CREATING THE
  • 00:17:05.037 --> 00:17:09.741
  • IDEA THAT THERE IS, YOUKNOW, I'VE HEARD IT SAID
  • 00:17:09.741 --> 00:17:14.113
  • LIKE THIS, LOOK, WHENYOU'RE CHOOSING A MATE,
  • 00:17:14.113 --> 00:17:19.084
  • YOU KNOW --- DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
  • 00:17:19.084 --> 00:17:21.553
  • - DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
  • 00:17:21.553 --> 00:17:23.222
  • I MEAN, DON'T JUST SETTLEFOR THE GOOBER THAT
  • 00:17:23.222 --> 00:17:26.792
  • [LAUGHTER] THATDOESN'T HAVE A JOB.
  • 00:17:26.792 --> 00:17:29.495
  • SO DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
  • 00:17:29.495 --> 00:17:31.096
  • BUT EHARMONY, YOU ARE NOLONGER A PARTY TO BEING
  • 00:17:31.096 --> 00:17:36.135
  • AN OWNER IN IT INANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT
  • 00:17:36.135 --> 00:17:38.203
  • YOU USED TO BE.
  • 00:17:38.203 --> 00:17:39.538
  • AND IT WAS A THING.
  • 00:17:39.538 --> 00:17:41.039
  • YOU WERE DOING 500MARRIAGES A DAY AND IT WAS --
  • 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.976
  • - IT WASSOMETHING ELSE.
  • 00:17:43.976 --> 00:17:46.879
  • NEIL WARREN IS THE FOUNDEROF EHARMONY, AND NEIL IS
  • 00:17:46.879 --> 00:17:50.949
  • A WONDERFUL WONDERFULFRIEND, BUT WE WERE AT
  • 00:17:50.949 --> 00:17:53.585
  • HIS HOME WITH MARILYN,AND AT LATE NIGHT I THINK
  • 00:17:53.585 --> 00:17:57.022
  • WE'D ALL BEENSPEAKING AT SOMETHING.
  • 00:17:57.022 --> 00:17:58.724
  • AND WE WENT TO THEIRHOME, AND THEY AT THE
  • 00:17:58.724 --> 00:18:01.059
  • TIME HAD A LOVELY HOMEABOVE THE ROSE BOWL
  • 00:18:01.059 --> 00:18:02.427
  • IN PASADENA.
  • 00:18:02.427 --> 00:18:04.363
  • AND MARILYN MADE USSOMETHING FOR DINNER, AND
  • 00:18:04.363 --> 00:18:06.632
  • AS THINGS WERE KIND OFWINDING DOWN WE THOUGHT,
  • 00:18:06.632 --> 00:18:08.901
  • NEIL SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW THISNEW THING CALLED THE INTERNET.
  • 00:18:08.901 --> 00:18:11.403
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:11.403 --> 00:18:12.938
  • - THIS IS OVER20 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:18:12.938 --> 00:18:14.139
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:18:14.139 --> 00:18:15.140
  • - AND WE SAID YEAH.
  • 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:16.341
  • WE KNOW ABOUTTHE INTERNET.
  • 00:18:16.341 --> 00:18:17.609
  • HE SAID, I WONDER IF WECOULD USE THAT TO BETTER
  • 00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:19.878
  • MATCH PEOPLE FORLIFELONG LOVE.
  • 00:18:19.878 --> 00:18:23.582
  • AND WE WERE LIKE...
  • 00:18:23.582 --> 00:18:25.617
  • AT THE TIME, THEINTERNET WAS SCARY.
  • 00:18:25.617 --> 00:18:27.686
  • IT WAS NOT A PLACE TO GOFIND THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:18:27.686 --> 00:18:30.722
  • AND ANYWAY, IT TURNEDINTO A LONG CONVERSATION
  • 00:18:30.722 --> 00:18:33.659
  • THAT TURNED INTOTHAT COMPANY.
  • 00:18:33.659 --> 00:18:35.494
  • IT WAS AN AMAZING,AMAZING RIDE.
  • 00:18:35.494 --> 00:18:37.496
  • AND WE DID HAVE, I THINKON AVERAGE, WAS IT
  • 00:18:37.496 --> 00:18:40.132
  • NEARLY 500 WEDDINGS A DAY?
  • 00:18:40.132 --> 00:18:42.234
  • - I DON'T HOLD ONTONUMBERS BUT IT WAS--
  • 00:18:42.234 --> 00:18:44.403
  • IT'S MIND BLOWING THATOUT OF THAT GROUP THAT
  • 00:18:44.403 --> 00:18:48.273
  • THEY WERE SO STABLE.
  • 00:18:48.273 --> 00:18:50.375
  • - SO YOU GUYS WROTE THECURRICULUM FOR THAT, RIGHT?
  • 00:18:50.375 --> 00:18:53.045
  • - WE DID A LOT OF THINGS BUT--
  • 00:18:53.045 --> 00:18:54.279
  • - THE MATCHING,
  • 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:55.547
  • KIND OF WHY DO YOU THINKTHAT MATTERS SO MUCH?
  • 00:18:55.547 --> 00:18:59.184
  • - GOOD QUESTION.
  • 00:18:59.184 --> 00:19:00.352
  • - WELL, BECAUSE WEKNOW IT WAS SCIENCE.
  • 00:19:00.352 --> 00:19:02.588
  • WE WERE LOOKING AT WHATDOES THE RESEARCH SHOW US
  • 00:19:02.588 --> 00:19:05.157
  • ON HOW PEOPLE MATCH FORLIFELONG LOVE, BECAUSE
  • 00:19:05.157 --> 00:19:07.659
  • MOST PEOPLE MATCH ON AFEELING, AND WE KNOW--
  • 00:19:07.659 --> 00:19:10.562
  • - AND A HUNCH. DOTHE BEST THEY CAN.
  • 00:19:10.562 --> 00:19:12.931
  • - RIGHT. SO WE KNOW THEREWAS A COUPLE DOZEN
  • 00:19:12.931 --> 00:19:17.069
  • DIMENSIONS OF LOVE THATNEEDED TO BE IN SYNC.
  • 00:19:17.069 --> 00:19:20.138
  • ENERGY LEVEL. WHOTHINKS ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:19:20.138 --> 00:19:22.241
  • DO I HAVE THE SAMEENERGY, OR SHOULD I HAVE
  • 00:19:22.241 --> 00:19:24.009
  • THE SAME ENERGY LEVEL?THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
  • 00:19:24.009 --> 00:19:26.511
  • SO WE LOOKED AT ALL THESEDIFFERENT SCIENTIFIC
  • 00:19:26.511 --> 00:19:28.247
  • DIMENSIONS AND JUST TOHELP PEOPLE BE WISE
  • 00:19:28.247 --> 00:19:31.750
  • IN THE MIDST OF THE DIZZYINGEXPERIENCE OF FALLING
  • 00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:34.086
  • IN LOVE, AND IT WORKS.
  • 00:19:34.086 --> 00:19:37.322
  • - YEAH, THERE'SSOMETHING AMAZING ABOUT
  • 00:19:37.322 --> 00:19:39.224
  • JUST CREATING A SPACEWHERE YOU'RE HAVING NOW A
  • 00:19:39.224 --> 00:19:42.327
  • CONVERSATION WITH THEPEOPLE WHO ARE MOST
  • 00:19:42.327 --> 00:19:44.663
  • MATCHED ON YOUR VALUESAND YOUR PERSONALITY
  • 00:19:44.663 --> 00:19:47.099
  • TRAITS, NOT JUST A RANDOMSAMPLING IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:19:47.099 --> 00:19:50.302
  • - WHEN WE STARTED IT,WE DIDN'T PUT
  • 00:19:50.302 --> 00:19:52.271
  • PEOPLE'S PICTURES ON IT.
  • 00:19:52.271 --> 00:19:53.905
  • - YES, WE WERE STRICT.
  • 00:19:53.905 --> 00:19:55.140
  • - THINK ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:56.408
  • WE WERE LIKE OH, NO, IT'SGONNA BE GOING BY THESE
  • 00:19:56.408 --> 00:19:58.744
  • QUALITIES. WELL, THATLASTED ABOUT 30 SECONDS.
  • 00:19:58.744 --> 00:20:01.380
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:20:01.380 --> 00:20:02.447
  • - PEOPLE ARE LIKE NO,I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE
  • 00:20:02.447 --> 00:20:04.549
  • CLOSE TO SOMEBODYI CAN'T SEE.
  • 00:20:04.549 --> 00:20:06.285
  • - GREAT PERSONALITY.
  • 00:20:06.285 --> 00:20:08.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:09.488
  • GREAT HAIR.
  • 00:20:09.488 --> 00:20:11.156
  • - SO THAT WHOLEEHARMONY THING WAS THESE
  • 00:20:11.156 --> 00:20:15.360
  • ARE THE FOLKS THAT KINDOF GOT THAT ORGANIZED,
  • 00:20:15.360 --> 00:20:17.996
  • AND NOW THEY ADDED JESUSIN TO WHAT IT IS NOW, AND
  • 00:20:17.996 --> 00:20:23.802
  • NOW THEY'RE WRITING STUFFLIKE THIS, SO THEY'RE
  • 00:20:23.802 --> 00:20:26.805
  • OUT OF THAT SECULARTHING AND DOING THIS.
  • 00:20:26.805 --> 00:20:29.541
  • OKAY, WE ARE BREAKINGDOWN THE BOOK
  • 00:20:29.541 --> 00:20:32.377
  • "LOVE LIKE THAT," AND I LIKEWHAT YOU SAID EARLIER,
  • 00:20:32.377 --> 00:20:37.416
  • LES, WHERE YOU GET THISFROM EPHESIANS FIVE.
  • 00:20:37.416 --> 00:20:41.053
  • PAUL IS SAYING OBSERVEHOW CHRIST LOVED US.
  • 00:20:41.053 --> 00:20:45.023
  • HIS LOVE WAS NOT CAUTIOUSBUT EXTRAVAGANT.
  • 00:20:45.023 --> 00:20:48.493
  • HE DIDN'T LOVE IN ORDERTO GET SOMETHING FROM US
  • 00:20:48.493 --> 00:20:52.130
  • BUT TO GIVE EVERYTHINGOF HIMSELF TO US.
  • 00:20:52.130 --> 00:20:57.669
  • LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:20:57.669 --> 00:20:59.805
  • THAT'S WHERETHIS CAME FROM.
  • 00:20:59.805 --> 00:21:02.207
  • - TOM NEWMAN:HELLO FRIENDS.
  • 00:21:02.207 --> 00:21:03.508
  • IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THATJUST A SHORT WHILE BACK
  • 00:21:03.508 --> 00:21:05.744
  • I FOUND MYSELF IN MOSCOWWITH MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH.
  • 00:21:05.744 --> 00:21:09.414
  • IT WAS A SURREAL SCENEI'LL NEVER FORGET.
  • 00:21:09.414 --> 00:21:12.551
  • THERE I WAS WITH MATTINTERVIEWING THE FORMER
  • 00:21:12.551 --> 00:21:15.320
  • HEAD OF THE SOVIET UNION,MIKHAIL GORBACHEV,
  • 00:21:15.320 --> 00:21:18.123
  • ABOUT HIS FAITH.
  • 00:21:18.123 --> 00:21:19.958
  • WE SAT TOGETHER TALKINGFOR OVER TWO AND A HALF
  • 00:21:19.958 --> 00:21:22.561
  • DAYS ABOUT THE HISTORYOF THE COLD WAR, THE
  • 00:21:22.561 --> 00:21:25.263
  • RELATIONSHIP OF OUR TWOCOUNTRIES AND FAITH.
  • 00:21:25.263 --> 00:21:28.767
  • AND THE MOST AMAZINGMOMENT CAME WHEN MATT
  • 00:21:28.767 --> 00:21:31.269
  • ASKED PRESIDENT GORBACHEVPOINT BLANK, "DO YOU
  • 00:21:31.269 --> 00:21:34.639
  • BELIEVE, MR. PRESIDENT, ITWAS GOD'S WILL THAT YOU
  • 00:21:34.639 --> 00:21:37.509
  • AND PRESIDENT REAGAN CAMETO POWER AT THE SAME TIME?"
  • 00:21:37.509 --> 00:21:41.113
  • HIS ANSWER, DA, WHICHOF COURSE MEANS YES.
  • 00:21:41.113 --> 00:21:44.950
  • AND WITH THAT HE BOLDLYPROCLAIMED HIS BELIEF
  • 00:21:44.950 --> 00:21:47.886
  • IN GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY.
  • 00:21:47.886 --> 00:21:49.988
  • THAT HISTORIC EXPERIENCEREMINDED ME JUST HOW
  • 00:21:49.988 --> 00:21:53.024
  • POWERFUL TBN'S MISSION ISBROADCASTING THE MESSAGE
  • 00:21:53.024 --> 00:21:57.129
  • OF THE GOSPEL ACROSS THEWORLD SO EVERYONE WILL
  • 00:21:57.129 --> 00:22:00.465
  • HEAR, EVEN IN NATIONSWHERE THE GOOD NEWS
  • 00:22:00.465 --> 00:22:03.201
  • CANNOT BE OPENLYPROCLAIMED.
  • 00:22:03.201 --> 00:22:05.771
  • FRIENDS, WHEN YOU SUPPORTTBN, YOU ARE LITERALLY
  • 00:22:05.771 --> 00:22:09.040
  • HELPING CHANGE THE ENTIREWORLD WITH THE LOVE OF
  • 00:22:09.040 --> 00:22:11.977
  • CHRIST, AND WE'D LIKETO INVITE YOU TO
  • 00:22:11.977 --> 00:22:14.179
  • PARTNER WITH OUR MISSION.
  • 00:22:14.179 --> 00:22:16.415
  • AS OUR WAY OF SAYINGTHANK YOU FOR DOING THAT,
  • 00:22:16.415 --> 00:22:18.817
  • YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT INANY AMOUNT THIS MONTH,
  • 00:22:18.817 --> 00:22:21.820
  • WE'LL SEND YOU LOVELIKE THAT, RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:22:21.820 --> 00:22:25.357
  • SECRETS FROM JESUSBY LES PARROTT.
  • 00:22:25.357 --> 00:22:28.360
  • - WHEN JESUS TALKED TOUS ABOUT LOVING LIKE HE
  • 00:22:28.360 --> 00:22:30.595
  • LOVES, IT WASN'T SOMEPOETIC NOTION, "HEY,
  • 00:22:30.595 --> 00:22:35.333
  • WOULDN'T THAT BE AWESOME,WON'T THAT BE COOL."
  • 00:22:35.333 --> 00:22:37.836
  • NO. HE WAS SAYINGYOU CAN DO THIS.
  • 00:22:37.836 --> 00:22:40.338
  • - THIS IS LITERALLYONE OF THE BEST BOOKS
  • 00:22:40.338 --> 00:22:42.707
  • I'VE EVER READ INMY WHOLE LIFE.
  • 00:22:42.707 --> 00:22:45.076
  • - WE'LL ALSO ENCLOSE THEICONIC BOOK "THE FIVE
  • 00:22:45.076 --> 00:22:48.246
  • LOVE LANGUAGES" BY GARYCHAPMAN THAT TEACH
  • 00:22:48.246 --> 00:22:50.816
  • COUPLES HOW TO FALL INLOVE AND TO STAY IN LOVE.
  • 00:22:50.816 --> 00:22:54.920
  • - WE LOVE GOD BECAUSEGOD FIRST LOVED US.
  • 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.722
  • IN A MARRIAGERELATIONSHIP OR ANY OTHER
  • 00:22:57.722 --> 00:22:59.624
  • RELATIONSHIP, WE HAVETO TAKE THE INITIATIVE.
  • 00:22:59.624 --> 00:23:02.294
  • IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHERIT'S A HUSBAND OR A WIFE.
  • 00:23:02.294 --> 00:23:04.229
  • ONE PERSON CAN TAKE THEINITIATIVE. IT INFLUENCE
  • 00:23:04.229 --> 00:23:06.264
  • THE OTHER PERSON. LOVESTIMULATES LOVE.
  • 00:23:06.264 --> 00:23:08.900
  • - BOTH RUNAWAY BESTSELLERSARE YOURS WITH OUR
  • 00:23:08.900 --> 00:23:12.571
  • APPRECIATION FOR A GIFTOF $35 DOLLARS OR MORE.
  • 00:23:12.571 --> 00:23:15.907
  • FRIENDS, WHEN YOU MAKEYOUR TAX DEDUCTIBLE GIFT
  • 00:23:15.907 --> 00:23:18.510
  • TO TBN, YOU'RE JOININGHANDS IN THE GLOBAL
  • 00:23:18.510 --> 00:23:21.413
  • MISSION TO CHANGE THE WORLDWITH THE LOVE OF JESUS.
  • 00:23:21.413 --> 00:23:24.216
  • WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOU.
  • 00:23:24.216 --> 00:23:26.017
  • OPERATORS ARESTANDING BY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:23:26.017 --> 00:23:28.386
  • PLEASE DON'TDELAY BUT CALL US.
  • 00:23:28.386 --> 00:23:30.088
  • THANK YOU.
  • 00:23:30.088 --> 00:23:31.990
  • - WE'RE BREAKING THISDOWN. APPROACHABLE.
  • 00:23:31.990 --> 00:23:35.126
  • HOW DO WE LOVE LIKE THAT?WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
  • 00:23:35.126 --> 00:23:38.530
  • - OKAY, SO THIS ISTHE SECOND THING.
  • 00:23:38.530 --> 00:23:40.131
  • AFTER YOU'VE WORKEDON BEING MINDFUL,
  • 00:23:40.131 --> 00:23:42.334
  • AND BY THE WAY NONE OFTHESE REALLY COME EASILY.
  • 00:23:42.334 --> 00:23:46.671
  • THIS IS NOT LIKE, YOUKNOW, THIS IS NOTHING
  • 00:23:46.671 --> 00:23:49.107
  • YOU GO, OH, I READ THEBOOK AND I GOT IT.
  • 00:23:49.107 --> 00:23:51.710
  • THIS IS ALIFELONG PROCESS.
  • 00:23:51.710 --> 00:23:54.145
  • BUT ONCE YOU BECOMEMINDFUL AND LEAN INTO
  • 00:23:54.145 --> 00:23:56.915
  • THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE,AND YOU ASK THE HOLY
  • 00:23:56.915 --> 00:23:58.450
  • SPIRIT TO HELP YOU DOTHAT MORE EFFECTIVELY,
  • 00:23:58.450 --> 00:24:01.052
  • THEN I THINK THE NEXTSTEP IS TO BECOME MORE
  • 00:24:01.052 --> 00:24:03.755
  • CONSCIOUS OF BEINGAPPROACHABLE.
  • 00:24:03.755 --> 00:24:06.124
  • AND APPROACHABLERATHER THAN EXCLUSIVE.
  • 00:24:06.124 --> 00:24:10.295
  • AND WHY IS THAT?WELL, WE HAVE--
  • 00:24:10.295 --> 00:24:13.698
  • GOD MADE US WITH THISINCREDIBLE COMPULSION
  • 00:24:13.698 --> 00:24:16.268
  • TO BELONG TO OTHER PEOPLE.WE LONG TO BELONG.
  • 00:24:16.268 --> 00:24:19.771
  • WE DON'T LIKETO BE EXCLUDED.
  • 00:24:19.771 --> 00:24:21.573
  • IN FACT, IN THE BOOK, ISTART BY TALKING ABOUT A
  • 00:24:21.573 --> 00:24:23.575
  • SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT THATSEEMS LIKE IT'S AS FRESH
  • 00:24:23.575 --> 00:24:26.278
  • AS YESTERDAY TO MEWHEN I THINK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:24:26.278 --> 00:24:28.613
  • I WAS IN PALM SPRINGS,CALIFORNIA, AND I WAS
  • 00:24:28.613 --> 00:24:31.216
  • THERE FOR A CHURCH, ANDTHERE WAS TWO OTHER
  • 00:24:31.216 --> 00:24:32.817
  • SPEAKERS, AND THERE WASMAYBE A THOUSAND PEOPLE
  • 00:24:32.817 --> 00:24:35.320
  • IN THIS BALLROOM,AND WE SPOKE TO THEM.
  • 00:24:35.320 --> 00:24:37.222
  • I JUST ASSUMED THE THREESPEAKERS WOULD BE
  • 00:24:37.222 --> 00:24:38.990
  • GOING OUT FOR DINNER.I'VE DONE ENOUGH OF THIS
  • 00:24:38.990 --> 00:24:41.092
  • THROUGHOUT MY LIFE,THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
  • 00:24:41.092 --> 00:24:43.094
  • AND AS WE WOUND THINGSDOWN AND WE'RE GETTING IN
  • 00:24:43.094 --> 00:24:46.264
  • CARS, I REALIZED OH, IGUESS I'M NOT GOING TO
  • 00:24:46.264 --> 00:24:49.234
  • DINNER WITH THOSETWO GUYS, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:24:49.234 --> 00:24:51.336
  • YOU EVER BEEN IN THATKIND OF A SITUATION?
  • 00:24:51.336 --> 00:24:52.804
  • - YES.
  • 00:24:52.804 --> 00:24:54.005
  • - AND I THOUGHT WHYIS IT THAT I CAN
  • 00:24:54.005 --> 00:24:57.208
  • STILL REMEMBER THAT?
  • 00:24:57.208 --> 00:24:58.843
  • THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGOAND IT STILL KIND OF IS A
  • 00:24:58.843 --> 00:25:01.513
  • LITTLE PAINFUL LIKE,MAN, NOBODY LIKES TO BE
  • 00:25:01.513 --> 00:25:05.383
  • EXCLUDED. AND JESUS KNOWSTHIS, AND SO HE DOES SO
  • 00:25:05.383 --> 00:25:11.890
  • MANY RADICAL THINGS TODEMONSTRATE, NOT TO
  • 00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:14.726
  • DEMONSTRATE JUST TO LIVEOUT HIS INCLUSIVENESS,
  • 00:25:14.726 --> 00:25:17.462
  • HIS DESIRE TO BEAPPROACHABLE.
  • 00:25:17.462 --> 00:25:21.633
  • THERE'S CERTAIN PEOPLETHAT WE'VE MET AND
  • 00:25:21.633 --> 00:25:23.735
  • WE'RE LIKE "SHOULDI TALK TO THEM?
  • 00:25:23.735 --> 00:25:25.804
  • I DON'T KNOW, HEDOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE
  • 00:25:25.804 --> 00:25:26.972
  • WANTS TO BE BOTHERED."
  • 00:25:26.972 --> 00:25:28.373
  • I DON'T THINK JESUS EVERLOOKED LIKE HE DIDN'T
  • 00:25:28.373 --> 00:25:29.908
  • WANT TO BE BOTHERED.
  • 00:25:29.908 --> 00:25:31.509
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:25:31.509 --> 00:25:32.644
  • - AND SHOCKINGLYAVAILABLE.
  • 00:25:32.644 --> 00:25:34.946
  • - YES. AND EVEN WITHLITTLE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW.
  • 00:25:34.946 --> 00:25:38.116
  • AND THEY WOULD IN THOSEDAYS KEEP LITTLE KIDS
  • 00:25:38.116 --> 00:25:40.652
  • AWAY FROM THE TEACHER,FROM THE RABBI.
  • 00:25:40.652 --> 00:25:43.888
  • NOT JESUS. BRING THEM ON.
  • 00:25:43.888 --> 00:25:45.590
  • - IN FACT ANY OUTSIDER,YOU KNOW, JESUS WAS
  • 00:25:45.590 --> 00:25:49.027
  • ALWAYS THE INSIDERREACHING OUT, AND JUST
  • 00:25:49.027 --> 00:25:53.531
  • IN FULL VIEW OF ALLTHE OTHER INSIDERS
  • 00:25:53.531 --> 00:25:55.967
  • MAKING EVERYONE BELONG.
  • 00:25:55.967 --> 00:25:59.104
  • - AS YOU KNOW, I LOVETO TAKE SOCIAL SCIENCE
  • 00:25:59.104 --> 00:26:02.907
  • RESEARCH AND INTEGRATE ITWITH BIBLICAL WISDOM,
  • 00:26:02.907 --> 00:26:06.578
  • AND THERE WAS A STUDYTHAT WAS DONE, ANOTHER
  • 00:26:06.578 --> 00:26:08.580
  • CLASSIC STUDY BY A GUYNAMED SOLOMON ASCH.
  • 00:26:08.580 --> 00:26:12.517
  • AND HE WANTED TOUNDERSTAND THIS KIND OF
  • 00:26:12.517 --> 00:26:16.221
  • COMPULSION FOR COMPLETIONWE HAVE, THIS DESIRE TO
  • 00:26:16.221 --> 00:26:18.189
  • BE INCLUDED IN A GROUP.
  • 00:26:18.189 --> 00:26:20.759
  • AND SO HE DID THISEXPERIMENT, SO CLEVER,
  • 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.995
  • MANY YEARS AGO WHERE HEHAD SEVEN OR EIGHT, MAYBE
  • 00:26:23.995 --> 00:26:26.765
  • TEN PEOPLE IN A ROOM ANDIT WAS, THEY WERE TOLD IT
  • 00:26:26.765 --> 00:26:31.069
  • WAS THERE TO JUST TODO SOME COGNITIVE
  • 00:26:31.069 --> 00:26:33.571
  • ASSESSMENT KIND OF STUFF.
  • 00:26:33.571 --> 00:26:35.440
  • AND EVERYBODY WAS IN ONTHE EXPERIMENT WITH THE
  • 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:39.177
  • EXCEPTION OF ONE PERSON.
  • 00:26:39.177 --> 00:26:41.112
  • THE STOOGE, RIGHT, THATCOMES IN AND SITS DOWN.
  • 00:26:41.112 --> 00:26:44.749
  • AND THEY WOULD PUT UP ONTHE SCREEN, AND I BROUGHT
  • 00:26:44.749 --> 00:26:47.052
  • THIS TO DEMONSTRATE, BUTHE PUT UP A LITTLE THING
  • 00:26:47.052 --> 00:26:49.788
  • LIKE THIS, THREE LINES.AND THE QUESTION WAS
  • 00:26:49.788 --> 00:26:55.260
  • WHICH OF THESELINES IS LONGEST?
  • 00:26:55.260 --> 00:26:58.697
  • MATT, YOU THINK YOU GOTTHE ANSWER TO THAT ONE?
  • 00:26:58.697 --> 00:27:00.131
  • - I DO.
  • 00:27:00.131 --> 00:27:01.366
  • - OKAY. LAURIE, I KNOW YOUGOT THE ANSWER TO THAT.
  • 00:27:01.366 --> 00:27:03.301
  • A, B, OR C?
  • 00:27:03.301 --> 00:27:04.836
  • - MATT: C.
  • 00:27:04.836 --> 00:27:06.304
  • - SO YEAH, IT'SOBVIOUS IT'S C.
  • 00:27:06.304 --> 00:27:09.507
  • WHO WOULD, HOW COULD YOU,COULD I EVER CONVINCE YOU
  • 00:27:09.507 --> 00:27:12.377
  • THAT THAT WASN'TTHE LONGEST?
  • 00:27:12.377 --> 00:27:13.845
  • COULD I GET YOU TO SAY,IT EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T
  • 00:27:13.845 --> 00:27:15.714
  • BELIEVE IT, COULD I GETYOU TO SAY THAT WITHOUT
  • 00:27:15.714 --> 00:27:17.449
  • SOME REALLY TORTUROUSKIND OF, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:27:17.449 --> 00:27:20.552
  • WELL, HERE'S THE DEAL.
  • 00:27:20.552 --> 00:27:22.454
  • HE DISCOVERED 70 PERCENTOF US WILL SAY THAT IS
  • 00:27:22.454 --> 00:27:27.992
  • NOT THE LONGEST LINE IFALL THE OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:27:27.992 --> 00:27:31.996
  • BEFORE US SAY NO,B IS THE LONGEST.
  • 00:27:31.996 --> 00:27:36.401
  • NOW YOU KNOW WITH YOURRATIONAL MIND IT'S NOT
  • 00:27:36.401 --> 00:27:38.603
  • THE LONGEST, BUT WHEN ITGETS TO YOU AFTER SEVEN
  • 00:27:38.603 --> 00:27:41.139
  • OR EIGHT PEOPLE ANDTHESE ARE STRANGERS.
  • 00:27:41.139 --> 00:27:43.508
  • THESE AREN'TYOUR FRIENDS.
  • 00:27:43.508 --> 00:27:44.809
  • THESE ARE JUST PEOPLE.
  • 00:27:44.809 --> 00:27:46.044
  • - LAURIE: IT'S NOTPEER PRESSURE.
  • 00:27:46.044 --> 00:27:47.178
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:27:47.178 --> 00:27:48.213
  • - MATT: NO, IT ISPEER PRESSURE.
  • 00:27:48.213 --> 00:27:49.614
  • - IT'S A DESIRETO BE INCLUDED.
  • 00:27:49.614 --> 00:27:51.583
  • I DON'T WANT TO BEEXCLUDED FROM THE GROUP,
  • 00:27:51.583 --> 00:27:53.318
  • SO 70 PERCENT OF THE TIMEWE WILL GO OKAY, I KNOW
  • 00:27:53.318 --> 00:27:57.188
  • IT'S NOT THE LONGEST,BUT EVERYBODY ELSE
  • 00:27:57.188 --> 00:27:58.990
  • SEEMS TO THINK IT'SNOT THE LONGEST.
  • 00:27:58.990 --> 00:28:01.126
  • - THEY KNOW SOMETHINGI DON'T KNOW.
  • 00:28:01.126 --> 00:28:02.560
  • - OR Y'ALL ARE NUTSAND IT'S C.
  • 00:28:02.560 --> 00:28:04.095
  • - PROBABLY.
  • 00:28:04.095 --> 00:28:06.231
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:06.231 --> 00:28:08.767
  • - YOU GET A LOT OF THATAT HOME, DON'T YOU?
  • 00:28:08.767 --> 00:28:10.869
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:28:10.869 --> 00:28:13.538
  • - AND SO WE GO OKAY, IKNOW IT'S NOT THIS ONE,
  • 00:28:13.538 --> 00:28:17.776
  • BUT EVERYBODY SEEMSTO THINK IT'S THIS.
  • 00:28:17.776 --> 00:28:20.311
  • I MEAN I KNOW IT'S THISONE, BUT EVERYBODY'S
  • 00:28:20.311 --> 00:28:21.780
  • SAYING IT'S THAT ONE, SOI GUESS I'LL SAY THAT
  • 00:28:21.780 --> 00:28:23.915
  • BECAUSE I DON'T WANTTO BE THE ODD MAN OUT.
  • 00:28:23.915 --> 00:28:26.351
  • NOW WE LOOK AT THAT, ANDI'M SURE EVERYBODY AT
  • 00:28:26.351 --> 00:28:28.620
  • HOME IS GOING NOT ME,I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:28:28.620 --> 00:28:31.856
  • WELL, 70 PERCENT OFPEOPLE DID SO YEAH.
  • 00:28:31.856 --> 00:28:35.059
  • ALL THAT DOES ISILLUSTRATE THIS
  • 00:28:35.059 --> 00:28:37.996
  • COMPULSION FOR COMPLETIONWE HAVE TO BELONG.
  • 00:28:37.996 --> 00:28:40.398
  • - AND IT'S SUCHA DEEP LONGING.
  • 00:28:40.398 --> 00:28:41.733
  • YOU KNOW EVEN THESIMPLEST WAYS OF
  • 00:28:41.733 --> 00:28:44.602
  • INCLUDING PEOPLE AREPOWERFUL, LIKE WE KNOW
  • 00:28:44.602 --> 00:28:47.705
  • FROM RESEARCH THAT EVENIF YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE
  • 00:28:47.705 --> 00:28:50.208
  • OF YOUR WARM SMILES,LAURIE, EVEN IF WE'RE
  • 00:28:50.208 --> 00:28:53.978
  • TOTAL STRANGERS, WE'REWALKING BY EACH OTHER IN
  • 00:28:53.978 --> 00:28:56.381
  • A ROOM, I WILL FEELBETTER ABOUT MY LIFE FOR
  • 00:28:56.381 --> 00:29:00.051
  • SEVERAL MINUTES, JUSTSOMEONE WHO YOU DON'T
  • 00:29:00.051 --> 00:29:03.154
  • EVEN KNOW FLASHINGYOU A SMILE.
  • 00:29:03.154 --> 00:29:05.757
  • YOU'RE INCLUDED,YOU BELONG.
  • 00:29:05.757 --> 00:29:07.158
  • - THEY CALL IT A MICRO SMILE.IT'S NOT LIKE AN ELONGATED,
  • 00:29:07.158 --> 00:29:09.761
  • YOU KNOW, JUST A QUICK.
  • 00:29:09.761 --> 00:29:11.563
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:11.563 --> 00:29:15.066
  • HI MATT.
  • 00:29:15.066 --> 00:29:16.367
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:29:16.367 --> 00:29:18.603
  • THAT'S WHEN WENEED MEDICATION.
  • 00:29:18.603 --> 00:29:20.805
  • - NOT OGLING.
  • 00:29:20.805 --> 00:29:23.208
  • - BUT ISN'T THAT INTERESTING,
  • 00:29:23.208 --> 00:29:25.944
  • JUST A LITTLE MICRO SMILEWILL BOOST YOUR MOOD,
  • 00:29:25.944 --> 00:29:28.780
  • LIKE WE'RE CONNECTEDSOMEHOW, RIGHT?
  • 00:29:28.780 --> 00:29:31.616
  • AND SO IF YOU WANT TOLOVE LIKE JESUS, YOU'VE
  • 00:29:31.616 --> 00:29:34.485
  • GOT TO CONVEY A SENSE OFAPPROACHABILITY IN YOUR
  • 00:29:34.485 --> 00:29:38.923
  • LIFE, AND THAT MEANSINCLUDING PEOPLE.
  • 00:29:38.923 --> 00:29:42.894
  • AND I'M TERRIBLE ATTHIS, BY THE WAY, IN
  • 00:29:42.894 --> 00:29:45.063
  • RELATIONSHIP TO LESLIE.
  • 00:29:45.063 --> 00:29:47.866
  • - WE'RE JUST GONNA ADDTHAT TO YOUR LONG LIST
  • 00:29:47.866 --> 00:29:49.901
  • THAT'S COME OUT TODAY.
  • 00:29:49.901 --> 00:29:51.769
  • - BUT NO, IWATCH LESLIE.
  • 00:29:51.769 --> 00:29:53.872
  • SHE IS SO GOOD ATINCLUDING PEOPLE SOCIALLY.
  • 00:29:53.872 --> 00:29:57.709
  • AND WE'LL HAVE LIKEPEOPLE OVER FOR DINNER,
  • 00:29:57.709 --> 00:30:00.445
  • AND THEN SHE'LL SAY BY THEWAY SO-AND-SO IS COMING.
  • 00:30:00.445 --> 00:30:03.414
  • WHAT? YOU INVITED THEM?
  • 00:30:03.414 --> 00:30:05.016
  • THAT'S GONNA BEAWKWARD, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:30:05.016 --> 00:30:07.318
  • THEY NEED TO BE HERE, YOUKNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
  • 00:30:07.318 --> 00:30:08.987
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:30:08.987 --> 00:30:13.424
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHATI'M SAYING, RIGHT?
  • 00:30:13.424 --> 00:30:16.227
  • IT'S THAT KIND OF SENSE,
  • 00:30:16.227 --> 00:30:18.263
  • AND FOR SOME OF USTHAT'S TOUGHER.
  • 00:30:18.263 --> 00:30:20.131
  • BUT IT GOES EVEN BEYONDTHAT BECAUSE JESUS IS
  • 00:30:20.131 --> 00:30:23.067
  • SO RADICAL IN HISAPPROACHABILITY THAT,
  • 00:30:23.067 --> 00:30:27.372
  • YOU KNOW, HE SAYS THINGSLIKE LOVE YOUR ENEMY.
  • 00:30:27.372 --> 00:30:32.543
  • WHAT? LOVE YOUR ENEMY?
  • 00:30:32.543 --> 00:30:36.147
  • THAT'S LOVING LIKE JESUS?
  • 00:30:36.147 --> 00:30:37.315
  • YEAH, THAT'SLOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:30:37.315 --> 00:30:38.917
  • HE PUTS THESE BARS, WALKTHE EXTRA MILE, ALL THESE
  • 00:30:38.917 --> 00:30:40.885
  • THINGS TO DO, BUTLOVE YOUR ENEMY.
  • 00:30:40.885 --> 00:30:42.687
  • I HAD, WHEN I WAS DOINGTHE RESEARCH ON THIS, I
  • 00:30:42.687 --> 00:30:44.822
  • HAD TO REALLY THINK ABOUTTHAT FROM EVERY ANGLE.
  • 00:30:44.822 --> 00:30:48.092
  • AND FIRST OF ALL, I THINKWELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE
  • 00:30:48.092 --> 00:30:49.594
  • ENEMIES. BUT THENI REALIZE NO, THE
  • 00:30:49.594 --> 00:30:52.664
  • ENEMIES ARE IN THE MOMENT.
  • 00:30:52.664 --> 00:30:55.166
  • IT'S NOT LIKE YOUHAVE A LIST OF ENEMIES
  • 00:30:55.166 --> 00:30:57.368
  • NECESSARILY, IT'S THATYOU HAVE ENEMIES IN THE
  • 00:30:57.368 --> 00:31:00.538
  • MOMENT, AND IT MIGHTBE THAT PERSON AT THE
  • 00:31:00.538 --> 00:31:04.709
  • AIRPORT THAT CAN'T SEEMTO GET YOU ON THAT FLIGHT
  • 00:31:04.709 --> 00:31:07.045
  • THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULDBE ABLE TO GET ON.
  • 00:31:07.045 --> 00:31:08.746
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:31:08.746 --> 00:31:10.014
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:10.014 --> 00:31:12.750
  • - AND WE HAVE A VIDEOTO SHOW OF OUR HOST.
  • 00:31:12.750 --> 00:31:15.153
  • NO.
  • 00:31:15.153 --> 00:31:16.387
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:31:16.387 --> 00:31:21.059
  • BUT YOU KNOW IN THATMOMENT, YOU'RE JUST LIKE
  • 00:31:21.059 --> 00:31:22.727
  • WHAT IS WRONG WITHYOU AS A HUMAN BEING?
  • 00:31:22.727 --> 00:31:25.396
  • YOU'RE SO FRUSTRATED.
  • 00:31:25.396 --> 00:31:27.031
  • I WAS ON A PHONE CALLYESTERDAY WITH A FRIEND
  • 00:31:27.031 --> 00:31:29.968
  • OF MINE THAT YOU WOULDKNOW, AND HE'S JUST BEING
  • 00:31:29.968 --> 00:31:32.704
  • RAKED THROUGH THE COALS,AND EVERYTHING WITHIN HIM
  • 00:31:32.704 --> 00:31:36.774
  • WANTS TO FIRE BACKBECAUSE HE HAS
  • 00:31:36.774 --> 00:31:40.812
  • AN ENEMY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:31:40.812 --> 00:31:42.513
  • HE WON'T FOREVER, BUT HE'SGOT AN ENEMY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:31:42.513 --> 00:31:45.116
  • AND TO BE APPROACHABLE,ONE WAY TO SAY IT, RIGHT?
  • 00:31:45.116 --> 00:31:50.288
  • BUT TO LOVE YOUR ENEMY?HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
  • 00:31:50.288 --> 00:31:53.324
  • THAT'S WHAT JESUS ISCALLING US TO DO.
  • 00:31:53.324 --> 00:31:54.959
  • SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUDO THAT WITHOUT ASKING
  • 00:31:54.959 --> 00:31:57.795
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THATMOMENT TO GO HEY, THIS
  • 00:31:57.795 --> 00:32:02.300
  • PERSON'S PROBABLYHAVING A BAD DAY.
  • 00:32:02.300 --> 00:32:04.435
  • THEY PROBABLY HAVESOMETHING GOING ON.
  • 00:32:04.435 --> 00:32:06.704
  • AND THE MORE I LOOKED ATTHE RESEARCH AROUND IT,
  • 00:32:06.704 --> 00:32:08.973
  • AND THE MORE I READ OFHOW JESUS APPROACHED IT,
  • 00:32:08.973 --> 00:32:11.042
  • I CAME UP WITH THIS WORDTHAT HAS HELPED ME
  • 00:32:11.042 --> 00:32:13.011
  • IN THE PROCESS ANDTHAT'S CURIOSITY.
  • 00:32:13.011 --> 00:32:16.881
  • WHEN YOU CAN BECOMECURIOUS ABOUT WHY
  • 00:32:16.881 --> 00:32:19.984
  • WOULD THEY DO THAT?
  • 00:32:19.984 --> 00:32:21.819
  • ALL THE SUDDEN, A LITTLEGRACE KIND OF SEEPS INTO
  • 00:32:21.819 --> 00:32:24.188
  • THE CREVASSES AND CORNERSOF YOUR RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:32:24.188 --> 00:32:26.924
  • IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT,BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:32:26.924 --> 00:32:30.595
  • GOING, MAN, THISPERSON IS AN IDIOT!
  • 00:32:30.595 --> 00:32:32.697
  • WHY DON'T YOU JUST FIND ASEAT ON THIS PLANE, BLAH
  • 00:32:32.697 --> 00:32:34.332
  • BLAH BLAH, OR WHATEVER.AND IF YOU JUST VERBALIZE
  • 00:32:34.332 --> 00:32:37.735
  • IT, "I BET YOU'VEHAD A ROUGH DAY."
  • 00:32:37.735 --> 00:32:40.471
  • BOY, THEY LOOK UP FROMTHAT KEYBOARD REAL FAST.
  • 00:32:40.471 --> 00:32:43.074
  • YEAH, I HAVE. IT'SBEEN A TOUGH DAY.
  • 00:32:43.074 --> 00:32:45.476
  • IT'S BEEN CRAZY.
  • 00:32:45.476 --> 00:32:46.611
  • THE WEATHER HAS BEENRIDICULOUS, ALL THESE
  • 00:32:46.611 --> 00:32:48.413
  • FLIGHTS HAVE BEENBLAH BLAH BLAH,
  • 00:32:48.413 --> 00:32:49.847
  • AND EVERYBODY'SPILING ON, RIGHT?
  • 00:32:49.847 --> 00:32:51.749
  • THAT LITTLE OPEN DOOR, ISEE YOU AS A HUMAN BEING
  • 00:32:51.749 --> 00:32:55.453
  • NOT JUST AS A TOOL TOGET ME TO THE NEXT CITY.
  • 00:32:55.453 --> 00:32:59.190
  • - SO BASICALLY, BASEDUPON THE SECOND CHAPTER
  • 00:32:59.190 --> 00:33:04.429
  • OR THE SECOND ISSUE WHICHIS APPROACHABILITY OR
  • 00:33:04.429 --> 00:33:06.864
  • APPROACHABLE, I CANPROBABLY GUESS YOU'RE
  • 00:33:06.864 --> 00:33:10.201
  • NOT A BIG FAN OFCELEBRITY PASTORS
  • 00:33:10.201 --> 00:33:12.637
  • WITH SECURITY DETAILS.
  • 00:33:12.637 --> 00:33:15.706
  • - WHY?
  • 00:33:15.706 --> 00:33:17.075
  • OH, I SEE.
  • 00:33:17.075 --> 00:33:18.443
  • - THAT WOULD MAKE YOULESS APPROACHABLE.
  • 00:33:18.443 --> 00:33:20.011
  • - I SPEAK IN A LOTOF THOSE CHURCHES.
  • 00:33:20.011 --> 00:33:21.412
  • I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITHPASTORS OUT THERE DOING THAT.
  • 00:33:21.412 --> 00:33:24.449
  • - SO THE EXCLUSIVEGREEN ROOM THING AND
  • 00:33:24.449 --> 00:33:27.552
  • SECURITY OUT IN FRONT,ALL THAT STUFF.
  • 00:33:27.552 --> 00:33:29.587
  • THAT'S KIND OF WORKINGAGAINST WHAT
  • 00:33:29.587 --> 00:33:32.824
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:33:32.824 --> 00:33:34.225
  • - THIS DOESN'T MEAN WEDON'T HAVE BOUNDARIES IN
  • 00:33:34.225 --> 00:33:36.160
  • OUR LIFE. IT DOESN'TMEAN WE DON'T TAKE
  • 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.795
  • CARE OF OURSELF, RIGHT?
  • 00:33:37.795 --> 00:33:40.198
  • BUT IT MEANS WE'RE ALSOVERY MINDFUL OF THE FACT
  • 00:33:40.198 --> 00:33:43.501
  • WE NEED TO BEAPPROACHABLE TOO.
  • 00:33:43.501 --> 00:33:45.870
  • - MATT: GOT IT.
  • 00:33:45.870 --> 00:33:47.205
  • - YEAH, AND NOTJUDGMENTAL BECAUSE THE
  • 00:33:47.205 --> 00:33:48.940
  • CURIOSITY TAKESUS AWAY FROM THAT.
  • 00:33:48.940 --> 00:33:51.409
  • - YES. I'LL TELL YOUJUST ONE THING ON
  • 00:33:51.409 --> 00:33:53.377
  • THE CELEBRITY PASTOR.
  • 00:33:53.377 --> 00:33:55.146
  • RICK WARREN, I SPOKE ATHIS CHURCH A LITTLE WHILE
  • 00:33:55.146 --> 00:33:57.181
  • AGO, AND HE IS A MASTERAT KNOWING HOW TO BE
  • 00:33:57.181 --> 00:34:03.020
  • WITH SOMEBODY AND BEAPPROACHABLE, AND KNOWING
  • 00:34:03.020 --> 00:34:05.990
  • WHEN OH, WE'RE GETTINGINTO TERRITORY THAT IS
  • 00:34:05.990 --> 00:34:09.660
  • GOING TO NOT BE GOODHERE, AND WE NEED TO
  • 00:34:09.660 --> 00:34:12.130
  • BUILD A LITTLEBOUNDARY, RIGHT?
  • 00:34:12.130 --> 00:34:15.066
  • AND I'VE SEEN THOSEPEOPLE THAT YOU MIGHT
  • 00:34:15.066 --> 00:34:17.168
  • THINK OH, THEY'REUNTOUCHABLE, CAN BE SOME
  • 00:34:17.168 --> 00:34:19.570
  • OF THE MOST ACCESSIBLEAND APPROACHABLE
  • 00:34:19.570 --> 00:34:22.340
  • PEOPLE YOU'VE EVER MET.
  • 00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:24.308
  • - I'VE SEEN A FEWSECURITY DETAILS.
  • 00:34:24.308 --> 00:34:26.310
  • - HE DOES HAVESECURITY DETAILS.
  • 00:34:26.310 --> 00:34:28.146
  • - OKAY. SO I NEED TO MOVETO THE THIRD THING
  • 00:34:28.146 --> 00:34:32.250
  • WHICH IS GRACE AND UNPACK IT.
  • 00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:36.587
  • HERE WE GO. LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:34:36.587 --> 00:34:38.356
  • - IF YOU WANT TO LOVELIKE JESUS, YOU'VE GOT TO
  • 00:34:38.356 --> 00:34:41.259
  • PUT JUDGMENT IN ABEYANCEIN ORDER TO ALLOW GRACE
  • 00:34:41.259 --> 00:34:45.696
  • TO ENTER THE PICTURE.
  • 00:34:45.696 --> 00:34:47.732
  • DO YOU HAVE YOUR WALLETON YOU RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:34:47.732 --> 00:34:49.867
  • - UH...
  • 00:34:49.867 --> 00:34:51.235
  • - GIVE ME THE LARGEST BILLYOU HAVE IN YOUR WALLET.
  • 00:34:51.235 --> 00:34:53.504
  • - I DON'T THINK I HAVE.
  • 00:34:53.504 --> 00:34:54.672
  • - AND DON'T JUDGEHIM FOR ASKING.
  • 00:34:54.672 --> 00:34:56.541
  • - IT'S IN MYOTHER JACKET.
  • 00:34:56.541 --> 00:34:59.410
  • - SO HERE, I WANTTO DO SOMETHING.
  • 00:34:59.410 --> 00:35:02.146
  • - USE YOUR MONEY.
  • 00:35:02.146 --> 00:35:03.581
  • - THIS WOULD HAVE BEENSO MUCH BETTER IF
  • 00:35:03.581 --> 00:35:04.849
  • IT WAS YOUR MONEY.
  • 00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:06.717
  • WELL, I'VE GOT A TEN.THAT'S OKAY.
  • 00:35:06.717 --> 00:35:08.085
  • - I HAVE A TEN IN MY BIBLE.
  • 00:35:08.085 --> 00:35:09.287
  • - LET'S USE YOUR MONEY. YOUHAVE A TEN IN YOUR BIBLE?
  • 00:35:09.287 --> 00:35:11.689
  • WHAT ELSE DO YOUHAVE IN THERE?
  • 00:35:11.689 --> 00:35:12.723
  • - I THINK I HAVE A HUNDREDTHAT CREFLO DOLLAR
  • 00:35:12.723 --> 00:35:14.358
  • GAVE ME ONE TIME ON PRAISEAND I STILL HAVE IT.
  • 00:35:14.358 --> 00:35:18.996
  • - WHO WOULDN'T WANT THIS?
  • 00:35:18.996 --> 00:35:20.565
  • YOU SAW THIS ON THESIDEWALK, YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:35:20.565 --> 00:35:21.966
  • TAKE THE TIMETO PICK THAT UP.
  • 00:35:21.966 --> 00:35:23.768
  • IT'S DESIRABLE.IT HAS VALUE, RIGHT?
  • 00:35:23.768 --> 00:35:28.739
  • NOW YOU TAKE THIS TEN ANDYOU CRUMPLE IT ALL UP,
  • 00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:32.577
  • RIGHT? THERE IT IS.IT'S SMASHED IN THERE.
  • 00:35:32.577 --> 00:35:36.781
  • DO YOU STILL WANT IT?YOU STILL WANT IT?
  • 00:35:36.781 --> 00:35:38.950
  • OF COURSE, RIGHT?
  • 00:35:38.950 --> 00:35:41.118
  • NOW I TAKE IT ANDI SMASH IT DOWN.
  • 00:35:41.118 --> 00:35:42.920
  • I CAN POUR SOME WATERON IT, PUT DIRT ON IT,
  • 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:44.956
  • WOULD YOU STILL WANT IT?
  • 00:35:44.956 --> 00:35:46.657
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:35:46.657 --> 00:35:47.692
  • - YEAH, WHY?
  • 00:35:47.692 --> 00:35:48.826
  • BECAUSE IT STILLHAS VALUE, RIGHT?
  • 00:35:48.826 --> 00:35:51.429
  • AND THAT'S WHATGRACE IS LIKE.
  • 00:35:51.429 --> 00:35:55.466
  • IT'S LIKE SEEINGTHAT VALUE.
  • 00:35:55.466 --> 00:35:57.068
  • I'LL GIVE IT BACK.
  • 00:35:57.068 --> 00:35:58.269
  • IF IT WAS HIS, IWOULDN'T GIVE IT BACK.
  • 00:35:58.269 --> 00:35:59.870
  • IF IT'S YOURS,I'LL GIVE IT BACK.
  • 00:35:59.870 --> 00:36:01.239
  • - A LITTLE SOMETHINGFOR YOUR TROUBLE.
  • 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:02.573
  • - WHO FIRST DID THATFOR ME WAS MY BUDDY
  • 00:36:02.573 --> 00:36:05.676
  • GARY SMALLEY. WE LOVE GARY.
  • 00:36:05.676 --> 00:36:07.612
  • HE WENT TO HEAVEN A FEWYEARS AGO, BUT GARY DID THAT.
  • 00:36:07.612 --> 00:36:10.414
  • I REMEMBER WE WERESPEAKING IN PORTLAND
  • 00:36:10.414 --> 00:36:12.583
  • AT THE ROSE GARDEN ITHINK. BIG ARENA.
  • 00:36:12.583 --> 00:36:15.486
  • AND HE DID THAT WITH AHUNDRED DOLLAR BILL.
  • 00:36:15.486 --> 00:36:18.289
  • AND THE CROWD WAS GOINGCRAZY, EVERYBODY WANTED IT,
  • 00:36:18.289 --> 00:36:20.891
  • THE HANDS GOINGUP EVERYWHERE.
  • 00:36:20.891 --> 00:36:22.660
  • AND I JUST COULDNEVER LET THAT GO.
  • 00:36:22.660 --> 00:36:24.595
  • IT WAS SUCH A GREATVISUAL, AN OBJECT
  • 00:36:24.595 --> 00:36:27.531
  • LESSON BECAUSE WHEN ITCOMES TO GRACE, IT'S THAT
  • 00:36:27.531 --> 00:36:32.136
  • FEELING OF I DON'TDESERVE THIS BUT THIS
  • 00:36:32.136 --> 00:36:35.273
  • PERSON IS STILLACCEPTING ME.
  • 00:36:35.273 --> 00:36:37.708
  • THEY'RE GIVING ME A PASS.
  • 00:36:37.708 --> 00:36:40.578
  • ANOTHER THING THAT COMESTO MIND WHEN I THINK
  • 00:36:40.578 --> 00:36:43.114
  • ABOUT GRACE, WHEN WE WEREIN GRADUATE SCHOOL AND
  • 00:36:43.114 --> 00:36:46.717
  • WE'RE BOTH LEARNING TO BEPSYCHOLOGISTS, I WENT TO,
  • 00:36:46.717 --> 00:36:51.822
  • YOU WEREN'T WITH ME BUT IWENT TO A CONFERENCE ON
  • 00:36:51.822 --> 00:36:54.458
  • LAUGHTER. A SERIOUSCONFERENCE ON LAUGHTER.
  • 00:36:54.458 --> 00:36:57.662
  • IT WAS ALL ABOUT THESCIENCE OF LAUGHTER, AND
  • 00:36:57.662 --> 00:36:59.397
  • IT WAS HELD IN A VERYSERIOUS PLACE TOO.
  • 00:36:59.397 --> 00:37:00.965
  • IT WAS AT THE DISNEYLANDHOTEL, AND ALL OF THESE
  • 00:37:00.965 --> 00:37:04.702
  • GREAT SPEAKERS IN A BIGBALLROOM AND SO FORTH.
  • 00:37:04.702 --> 00:37:07.004
  • THE COMEDIAN WAS UP ON THESTAGE, AND IT WAS THE FIRST
  • 00:37:07.004 --> 00:37:09.340
  • MORNING, AND HE TOOK ABOUTAN HOUR TO TEACH THIS ROOM
  • 00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:12.977
  • FULL OF PSYCHIATRISTS ANDPSYCHOLOGISTS HOW TO JUGGLE,
  • 00:37:12.977 --> 00:37:16.681
  • LITERALLY HOWTO JUGGLE, OKAY?
  • 00:37:16.681 --> 00:37:18.582
  • AND SO WE CAME IN, THEREWAS THREE BRIGHTLY COLORED
  • 00:37:18.582 --> 00:37:20.985
  • PIECES OF CLOTH ON EACHCHAIR, AND WE USED THOSE TO
  • 00:37:20.985 --> 00:37:23.954
  • LEARN HOW TO JUGGLE BECAUSEIT'S EASY TO LEARN HOW TO
  • 00:37:23.954 --> 00:37:25.923
  • JUGGLE A CLOTH BECAUSEIT FLOATS, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:37:25.923 --> 00:37:27.925
  • SO HE'S DOING THAT, BUT HEWENT THROUGH ABOUT A DOZEN
  • 00:37:27.925 --> 00:37:30.461
  • STEPS THAT WERE REALLY JUSTAN OPPORTUNITY
  • 00:37:30.461 --> 00:37:33.097
  • TO TEACH A LESSON.
  • 00:37:33.097 --> 00:37:34.498
  • BUT THE FIRST STEP HE SAIDIN LEARNING TO JUGGLE IS
  • 00:37:34.498 --> 00:37:37.835
  • BEFORE YOU EVEN STARTTRYING, JUST TAKE ONE OF THE
  • 00:37:37.835 --> 00:37:39.870
  • PIECES, HOLD IT OUT ATARM'S LENGTH, AND DROP IT.
  • 00:37:39.870 --> 00:37:44.308
  • WE ALL LOOKED AROUND ATEACH OTHER, WELL,
  • 00:37:44.308 --> 00:37:45.443
  • I'M NOT DROPPING IT.
  • 00:37:45.443 --> 00:37:46.877
  • I WANT TO GET GOING ONTHE JUGGLING BUSINESS.
  • 00:37:46.877 --> 00:37:48.446
  • NO, NO, NO, HE SAID, GETYOUR MISTAKE OVER WITH RIGHT
  • 00:37:48.446 --> 00:37:51.215
  • AT THE BEGINNING.
  • 00:37:51.215 --> 00:37:52.583
  • AND HE SAID, WE CALL THATTHE GUILT-FREE DROP.
  • 00:37:52.583 --> 00:37:56.754
  • WELL, THAT WAS A LONG TIMEAGO, I HEARD THAT LITTLE
  • 00:37:56.754 --> 00:37:58.456
  • LESSON, AND I HAVEN'T LETGO OF THE GUILT-FREE DROP.
  • 00:37:58.456 --> 00:38:03.294
  • ISN'T THAT GOOD?
  • 00:38:03.294 --> 00:38:04.895
  • BECAUSE WHO DOESN'TNEED A GUILT-FREE DROP?
  • 00:38:04.895 --> 00:38:07.531
  • PERMISSION TOMAKE A MISTAKE.
  • 00:38:07.531 --> 00:38:09.066
  • - MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:38:09.066 --> 00:38:10.634
  • - AND THAT'S PARTOF WHAT GRACE IS.
  • 00:38:10.634 --> 00:38:12.737
  • - YEAH, AND ACTUALLYGRACE EVEN GOES BEYOND
  • 00:38:12.737 --> 00:38:15.005
  • FORGIVENESS BECAUSE IT'SNOT JUST RELINQUISHING WITH
  • 00:38:15.005 --> 00:38:18.876
  • SOMEONE THE RIGHT TOJUSTICE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY
  • 00:38:18.876 --> 00:38:21.846
  • GOING BEYOND THAT AND GIVINGA GIFT THAT'S TOTALLY
  • 00:38:21.846 --> 00:38:27.118
  • UNDESERVED, SOMETHINGFAVORABLE AND MERCIFUL.
  • 00:38:27.118 --> 00:38:30.588
  • - RIGHT, YEAH.
  • 00:38:30.588 --> 00:38:32.256
  • - AND WE CAN JUST TALKABOUT GRACE FOR THE REST OF
  • 00:38:32.256 --> 00:38:37.962
  • THE PROGRAMS, THE REST OFTHE TIME WE HAVE ON EARTH
  • 00:38:37.962 --> 00:38:40.898
  • BECAUSE IT'S THEGREATEST GIFT EVER.
  • 00:38:40.898 --> 00:38:43.834
  • - IT'S SO TRANSFORMATIVE,IN JESUS' TEACHING,
  • 00:38:43.834 --> 00:38:46.871
  • ACTUALLY IN HIS LIFE.
  • 00:38:46.871 --> 00:38:50.174
  • THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY WASTHE ONE WHO REALLY SHOWED US.
  • 00:38:50.174 --> 00:38:55.446
  • - WELL, IT'S SUCHA DRAMATIC STORY.
  • 00:38:55.446 --> 00:38:57.915
  • IF YOU HAVEN'T READ ITLATELY, AND I KNOW WE'VE
  • 00:38:57.915 --> 00:39:00.518
  • ALL, MANY OF US HAVE GROWNUP IN THE CHURCH, AND WE
  • 00:39:00.518 --> 00:39:02.553
  • READ THE STORIES, AND THEYJUST KIND OF WASH OVER US
  • 00:39:02.553 --> 00:39:05.423
  • AFTER A WHILE. YOU KNOWWHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:39:05.423 --> 00:39:07.158
  • - SO FAMILIAR.
  • 00:39:07.158 --> 00:39:08.893
  • - AND I REMEMBER WITH THISINTENTION OF TRYING TO
  • 00:39:08.893 --> 00:39:10.995
  • UNDERSTAND HOW DO YOU LOVELIKE JESUS, GOING BACK AND
  • 00:39:10.995 --> 00:39:13.564
  • REALLY STUDYING THE WOMANCAUGHT IN ADULTERY.
  • 00:39:13.564 --> 00:39:16.734
  • HERE'S JESUS, IT'S EARLY INTHE MORNING, AND HE HAS HIS
  • 00:39:16.734 --> 00:39:19.537
  • STUDENTS IN FRONT OF HIM,HE'S TEACHING THEM, AND
  • 00:39:19.537 --> 00:39:23.541
  • THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LAW, ANDTHEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LOVE.
  • 00:39:23.541 --> 00:39:26.410
  • AND SUDDENLY, THESE GUYSBURST IN WITH THIS WOMAN AND
  • 00:39:26.410 --> 00:39:30.748
  • SAY, HEY, TEACHER, THISWOMAN WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT
  • 00:39:30.748 --> 00:39:34.452
  • OF ADULTERY, RED HANDED, WECAUGHT HER, NO DISPUTING IT.
  • 00:39:34.452 --> 00:39:38.155
  • GOOD NIGHT, ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:39:38.155 --> 00:39:40.424
  • TALK ABOUT WAKINGUP THE CLASS.
  • 00:39:40.424 --> 00:39:42.393
  • AND THEY BRING HER IN, ANDTHEY'VE HUMILIATED HER AS
  • 00:39:42.393 --> 00:39:46.530
  • THEY WOULD IN THOSE DAYS,AND THEY'RE USING
  • 00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:50.935
  • IT AS A TRAP, RIGHT?
  • 00:39:50.935 --> 00:39:52.703
  • THEY'RE TRYINGTO SHOW JESUS --
  • 00:39:52.703 --> 00:39:55.239
  • - TO CATCH HIM NOTSUPPORTING THE LAW.
  • 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.675
  • - RIGHT.- JUSTICE.
  • 00:39:57.675 --> 00:39:59.577
  • - AND SO THEY PUT HER INFRONT, AND THEY SAY, THE LAW
  • 00:39:59.577 --> 00:40:03.514
  • COMMANDS US TO STONEA WOMAN LIKE THIS.
  • 00:40:03.514 --> 00:40:06.350
  • NOW, WHAT DO YOU SAY?
  • 00:40:06.350 --> 00:40:08.085
  • OF COURSE ALL THE STUDENTS,EVERYBODY WAS JUST, WHAT'S
  • 00:40:08.085 --> 00:40:10.054
  • HE GOING TO SAY?
  • 00:40:10.054 --> 00:40:12.356
  • WHAT'S HE GOING TO SAY INTHE MIDST OF THIS THING?
  • 00:40:12.356 --> 00:40:14.892
  • AND HE DOES SOMETHINGTHAT NOBODY EXPECTED.
  • 00:40:14.892 --> 00:40:17.261
  • HE KNEELS DOWN, AND HESTARTS TO WRITE ON THE GROUND.
  • 00:40:17.261 --> 00:40:21.198
  • WOULDN'T YOU JUST LOVE TO KNOWWHAT HE WROTE ON THE GROUND?
  • 00:40:21.198 --> 00:40:24.502
  • DID HE WRITE THEIR NAMES?
  • 00:40:24.502 --> 00:40:26.670
  • DID HE WRITESOME OF THE LAWS?
  • 00:40:26.670 --> 00:40:29.807
  • DID HE WRITE --WHAT DID HE WRITE?
  • 00:40:29.807 --> 00:40:31.442
  • WE DON'T KNOW, THEBIBLE DOESN'T TELL US.
  • 00:40:31.442 --> 00:40:34.078
  • BUT HE STOOD UP -- MAYBE HEJUST WANTED A LITTLE TIME TO
  • 00:40:34.078 --> 00:40:37.114
  • THINK THIS THROUGH, WE DON'TKNOW, BUT HE STOOD UP.
  • 00:40:37.114 --> 00:40:39.917
  • - MAYBE HE'S GIVING THEMTIME TO BECOME MINDFUL.
  • 00:40:39.917 --> 00:40:41.685
  • - YES, MAYBE HE'SBECOMING MINDFUL.
  • 00:40:41.685 --> 00:40:44.154
  • - MAYBE HE'S WRITINGSOME OF THEIR SINS.
  • 00:40:44.154 --> 00:40:45.723
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:40:45.723 --> 00:40:47.391
  • - AND THEN HE SAYS SOMEINCREDIBLE THING THAT NOBODY
  • 00:40:47.391 --> 00:40:49.326
  • SAW COMING, AND HE SAYS,HEY, ANY OF YOU WITHOUT SIN,
  • 00:40:49.326 --> 00:40:53.964
  • WHY DON'T YOU BE THE FIRSTTO THROW THE STONE AT HER?
  • 00:40:53.964 --> 00:40:57.334
  • WELL, IT GOT PRETTYQUIET, RIGHT?
  • 00:40:57.334 --> 00:41:00.237
  • AND THEY BEGAN TO LEAVE ONEAT A TIME, THE SCRIPTURE
  • 00:41:00.237 --> 00:41:02.373
  • SAYS, PROBABLY THEWISE ONES FIRST, RIGHT?
  • 00:41:02.373 --> 00:41:05.309
  • AND THEY BEGAN TO LEAVEUNTIL IT WAS JUST HER AND
  • 00:41:05.309 --> 00:41:07.511
  • JESUS STANDING THERE, AND HESAYS, HAS NOBODY CONDEMNED YOU?
  • 00:41:07.511 --> 00:41:12.883
  • AND SHE LOOKS AROUNDAND SHE GOES, NOBODY.
  • 00:41:12.883 --> 00:41:15.920
  • HE SAID, I DON'T EITHER.I DON'T EITHER.
  • 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.056
  • NOW, LEAVE YOUR LIFEOF SIN. BOOM.
  • 00:41:19.056 --> 00:41:22.660
  • TALK ABOUT A GUILT-FREEDROP, RIGHT? THAT'S GRACE.
  • 00:41:22.660 --> 00:41:27.131
  • HOW DO YOU PUT THATINTO YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:41:27.131 --> 00:41:29.867
  • HOW DO YOU TO THAT WHEN YOURSON COMES HOME WITH
  • 00:41:29.867 --> 00:41:32.303
  • A POOR REPORT CARD?
  • 00:41:32.303 --> 00:41:33.904
  • HOW DO YOU TO THAT WHEN YOURWIFE OR SPOUSE IS
  • 00:41:33.904 --> 00:41:35.606
  • MAKING YOU SO UPSET?
  • 00:41:35.606 --> 00:41:37.107
  • HOW DO YOU GIVE GRACE INTHE MIDST OF TIMES WHEN IT
  • 00:41:37.107 --> 00:41:40.177
  • DOESN'T FEEL LIKE -- SEE, WEWANT TO GIVE LOVE TO
  • 00:41:40.177 --> 00:41:42.947
  • PEOPLE THAT DESERVE IT.THAT'S NOT GRACE.
  • 00:41:42.947 --> 00:41:46.550
  • IF YOU WANT TO LOVE LIKEJESUS, YOU'VE GOT TO LOVE
  • 00:41:46.550 --> 00:41:50.454
  • PEOPLE THAT DON'TDESERVE LOVE.
  • 00:41:50.454 --> 00:41:52.723
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:41:52.723 --> 00:41:54.525
  • - THAT'S WHATGRACE IS ABOUT.
  • 00:41:54.525 --> 00:41:56.093
  • - ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVEABOUT THAT MOMENT IS NOT
  • 00:41:56.093 --> 00:41:58.195
  • ONLY DID SHE RECEIVE GRACE,BUT EVERYONE THERE GOT TO
  • 00:41:58.195 --> 00:42:04.602
  • RECEIVE GRACE BECAUSE THEYRECOGNIZED, I'M IN GOD'S
  • 00:42:04.602 --> 00:42:07.871
  • LOVE, AND I'M CLEARLY NOTPERFECT, AND THEY WALKED
  • 00:42:07.871 --> 00:42:10.341
  • AWAY WITHOUT STONING.
  • 00:42:10.341 --> 00:42:11.809
  • THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WERECEIVE GOD'S GRACE IN OUR
  • 00:42:11.809 --> 00:42:14.511
  • LIVES, THEN WE ARE NOTJUDGY BECAUSE WE HAVE SO
  • 00:42:14.511 --> 00:42:20.918
  • MUCH OF THAT GRACEFOR OURSELVES,
  • 00:42:20.918 --> 00:42:22.753
  • WE WANT TO OFFER IT.
  • 00:42:22.753 --> 00:42:24.388
  • - WHEN I WAS IN GRADUATESCHOOL, I GOT TO THE PLACE,
  • 00:42:24.388 --> 00:42:27.992
  • IT'S LIKE GOING TO BARBERSCHOOL OR SOMETHING.
  • 00:42:27.992 --> 00:42:30.894
  • YOU EVENTUALLY HAVE TO CUTYOUR FIRST HAIRCUT, RIGHT?
  • 00:42:30.894 --> 00:42:33.464
  • YOU HAVE TO SEE YOUR FIRSTCLIENT, YOUR FIRST PATIENT.
  • 00:42:33.464 --> 00:42:37.001
  • AND I WAS SEEING MY VERYFIRST PATIENT, AND I HAD
  • 00:42:37.001 --> 00:42:40.604
  • WHAT THEY CALL THE BUG INTHE EAR, A LITTLE MICROPHONE
  • 00:42:40.604 --> 00:42:43.107
  • HERE, AND I HAD THREESEASONED PSYCHOLOGISTS
  • 00:42:43.107 --> 00:42:45.409
  • BEHIND A MIRROR WALL OVERHERE THAT WERE TELLING ME,
  • 00:42:45.409 --> 00:42:48.912
  • "HEY, LEAN A LITTLEFORWARD."
  • 00:42:48.912 --> 00:42:50.514
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:42:50.514 --> 00:42:52.282
  • - "GET ON THE EDGE OF YOURCHAIR SO THEY KNOW
  • 00:42:52.282 --> 00:42:54.918
  • YOU'RE INTERESTED."- VERY COMFORTABLE.
  • 00:42:54.918 --> 00:42:56.920
  • - "DON'T DO THATWITH YOUR FINGERS.
  • 00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:58.622
  • THAT'S A POWER PLAY. ALL RIGHT,I'LL LEAN BACK.
  • 00:42:58.622 --> 00:43:00.858
  • DO YOU REALIZE YOUR RIGHTFOOT IS GOING UP AND DOWN?
  • 00:43:00.858 --> 00:43:05.195
  • IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RENERVOUS." YEAH, I'M NERVOUS
  • 00:43:05.195 --> 00:43:08.032
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING ATME TELLING ME
  • 00:43:08.032 --> 00:43:09.600
  • WHAT TO DO, RIGHT?
  • 00:43:09.600 --> 00:43:12.002
  • AND YOU'RE GETTING GUIDED,AND THEN EVENTUALLY, ONE OF
  • 00:43:12.002 --> 00:43:14.004
  • MY PROFS SAYS, "HEY,REMEMBER, IT'S NOT
  • 00:43:14.004 --> 00:43:15.506
  • ABOUT THE TECHNIQUE.
  • 00:43:15.506 --> 00:43:17.007
  • IT'S ABOUT THE ATTITUDE."AND I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE
  • 00:43:17.007 --> 00:43:19.309
  • MEANT, THE ATTITUDE OFACCEPTANCE BECAUSE WHAT THEY
  • 00:43:19.309 --> 00:43:22.946
  • WERE TEACHING ME IS WHATWE CALL IN PSYCHOLOGY
  • 00:43:22.946 --> 00:43:25.182
  • UNCONDITIONALPOSITIVE REGARD.
  • 00:43:25.182 --> 00:43:28.352
  • PAUL ROGERS CAMEUP WITH THAT.
  • 00:43:28.352 --> 00:43:30.054
  • UNCONDITIONAL POSITIVEREGARD WHERE YOU CREATE AN
  • 00:43:30.054 --> 00:43:33.057
  • ENVIRONMENT FOR ANOTHERPERSON THAT LET'S THEM KNOW,
  • 00:43:33.057 --> 00:43:35.492
  • WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATEYOUR BEHAVIOR FROM YOUR
  • 00:43:35.492 --> 00:43:37.528
  • PERSONHOOD.
  • 00:43:37.528 --> 00:43:38.996
  • WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BADSTUFF, BUT THAT'S NOT YOU.
  • 00:43:38.996 --> 00:43:42.900
  • LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE GETBEYOND IT, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:45.969
  • JESUS DID FORTHAT WOMAN, RIGHT?
  • 00:43:45.969 --> 00:43:47.871
  • HAS NOBODY CONDEMNED YOU?
  • 00:43:47.871 --> 00:43:49.540
  • UNCONDITIONALPOSITIVE REGARD.
  • 00:43:49.540 --> 00:43:51.675
  • - WE ARE BREAKINGDOWN "LOVE LIKE THAT".
  • 00:43:51.675 --> 00:43:56.146
  • BOTH LES AND LESLIE PARROTTARE WITH US FOR
  • 00:43:56.146 --> 00:43:59.850
  • THIS ENTIRE ONE HOUR.
  • 00:43:59.850 --> 00:44:01.685
  • THIS IS OURMONTHLY RESOURCE. GET IT.
  • 00:44:01.685 --> 00:44:08.058
  • IT LITERALLY, I SAIDEARLIER, IS ONE OF THE BEST
  • 00:44:08.058 --> 00:44:11.829
  • BOOKS I HAVE EVER READ, IREAD IT COVER-TO-COVER.
  • 00:44:11.829 --> 00:44:16.400
  • IT IS SERIOUSLY ANAMAZING, AMAZING BOOK.
  • 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.137
  • WE'RE SO THRILLED THAT THISKIND OF QUALITY CONTENT IS
  • 00:44:20.137 --> 00:44:25.776
  • GOING TO COME TO YOU.
  • 00:44:25.776 --> 00:44:27.377
  • - HELLO, FRIENDS.
  • 00:44:27.377 --> 00:44:28.846
  • A WHILE BACK, I FOUND MYSELFIN MOSCOW WITH MATT
  • 00:44:28.846 --> 00:44:31.482
  • AND LAURIE CROUCH.
  • 00:44:31.482 --> 00:44:33.050
  • IT WAS A SCENE THATI WILL NEVER FORGET.
  • 00:44:33.050 --> 00:44:34.785
  • THERE I WAS WITH MATTINTERVIEWING THE FORMER HEAD
  • 00:44:34.785 --> 00:44:38.088
  • OF THE SOVIET UNIONHIMSELF, MIKHAIL GORBACHEV.
  • 00:44:38.088 --> 00:44:41.692
  • WE SAT TOGETHER TALKING FOROVER TWO-AND-A-HALF DAYS
  • 00:44:41.692 --> 00:44:44.762
  • ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THECOLD WAR, THE RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:44:44.762 --> 00:44:47.965
  • OF OUR TWOCOUNTRIES, AND FAITH.
  • 00:44:47.965 --> 00:44:50.667
  • AND AT ONE POINT, MATT ASKEDPRESIDENT GORBACHEV POINT
  • 00:44:50.667 --> 00:44:53.871
  • BLANK, SIR, DO YOU BELIEVEIT WAS GOD'S WILL THAT YOU
  • 00:44:53.871 --> 00:44:57.074
  • AND PRESIDENT REAGAN CAMETO POWER AT THE SAME TIME?
  • 00:44:57.074 --> 00:45:00.544
  • HIS ANSWER, "DA",WHICH MEANS YES.
  • 00:45:00.544 --> 00:45:04.214
  • AND WITH THAT, HE BOLDLYPROCLAIMED HIS
  • 00:45:04.214 --> 00:45:06.550
  • BELIEF IN GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY.
  • 00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:09.119
  • THAT HISTORIC EXPERIENCEREMINDED ME JUST HOW
  • 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.156
  • POWERFUL TBN'S MISSION IS.
  • 00:45:12.156 --> 00:45:14.925
  • WE'RE BROADCASTING THEMESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL ACROSS
  • 00:45:14.925 --> 00:45:18.095
  • THE WORLD SO EVERYONE WILLHEAR, EVEN IN NATIONS WHERE
  • 00:45:18.095 --> 00:45:21.765
  • THE GOOD NEWS CANNOTBE OPENLY PROCLAIMED.
  • 00:45:21.765 --> 00:45:25.068
  • FRIENDS, WHEN YOU SUPPORTTBN, YOU ARE LITERALLY
  • 00:45:25.068 --> 00:45:28.305
  • HELPING CHANGE THE ENTIRE WORLDWITH THE LOVE OF CHRIST, AND
  • 00:45:28.305 --> 00:45:31.475
  • WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TOPARTNER WITH OUR MISSION.
  • 00:45:31.475 --> 00:45:35.078
  • AS OUR WAY OF SAYING THANKYOU FOR YOUR GIFT OF ANY
  • 00:45:35.078 --> 00:45:37.648
  • AMOUNT THIS MONTH, WE'LLSEND YOU "LOVE LIKE THAT,
  • 00:45:37.648 --> 00:45:41.385
  • RELATIONSHIP SECRETS FROMJESUS" BY LES PARROTT.
  • 00:45:41.385 --> 00:45:44.288
  • - IF YOU WANT TO LOVE LIKEJESUS, YOU'VE GOT TO SEE
  • 00:45:44.288 --> 00:45:47.124
  • WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T SEE.
  • 00:45:47.124 --> 00:45:48.659
  • - THERE YOU GO.
  • 00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:50.327
  • - THAT KIND OF MINDFULNESSIS THE FIRST ONRAMP TO
  • 00:45:50.327 --> 00:45:53.130
  • LOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:55.065
  • - WE'LL ALSO ENCLOSE THEICONIC BOOK "THE FIVE LOVE
  • 00:45:55.065 --> 00:45:57.835
  • LANGUAGES" BY GARY CHAPMANTHAT TEACHES COUPLES HOW TO
  • 00:45:57.835 --> 00:46:00.838
  • FALL IN LOVE ANDTO STAY IN LOVE.
  • 00:46:00.838 --> 00:46:04.041
  • - BECAUSE IT'S MYRELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST
  • 00:46:04.041 --> 00:46:06.510
  • THAT GAVE ME THE DESIRE TOLOVE MY WIFE AND NOT TO
  • 00:46:06.510 --> 00:46:09.446
  • ASSUME THAT I KNOW WHATMAKES HER FEEL LOVE.
  • 00:46:09.446 --> 00:46:12.816
  • - BOTH RUN-AWAY BESTSELLERSARE YOURS WITH OUR
  • 00:46:12.816 --> 00:46:15.719
  • APPRECIATION FOR AGIFT OF $35 OR MORE.
  • 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.922
  • SO FRIENDS, WE'RE GRATEFULFOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP.
  • 00:46:18.922 --> 00:46:21.692
  • OPERATORS ARESTANDING BY RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:46:21.692 --> 00:46:23.727
  • PLEASE DON'TDELAY, BUT CALL US. THANK YOU.
  • 00:46:23.727 --> 00:46:27.197
  • - WE HAVE TWO MORETHINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
  • 00:46:28.131 --> 00:46:30.467
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY,YOU WERE IN EPHESIANS.
  • 00:46:30.467 --> 00:46:34.838
  • PAUL SAID, LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:46:34.838 --> 00:46:39.209
  • AND HE MADE ALL OF THESERIDICULOUSLY LARGE
  • 00:46:39.209 --> 00:46:42.012
  • CLAIMS OF DOING IT.
  • 00:46:42.012 --> 00:46:44.147
  • AND SO LOVE LIKE THATIS LITERALLY SCRIPTURE.
  • 00:46:44.147 --> 00:46:48.986
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:46:48.986 --> 00:46:50.787
  • - AND HE'S TALKINGABOUT JESUS' LOVE.
  • 00:46:50.787 --> 00:46:52.723
  • WE'RE IN BASICALLY THEFOURTH CATEGORY, BOLD LOVE.
  • 00:46:52.723 --> 00:46:57.094
  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
  • 00:46:57.094 --> 00:46:58.862
  • - AND BY THE WAY, LETME MENTION, EACH OF THE
  • 00:46:58.862 --> 00:47:00.998
  • CHAPTERS THAT WE'RE TALKINGABOUT HAS A LITTLE SELF TEST
  • 00:47:00.998 --> 00:47:03.133
  • IN HERE SO YOU CAN KIND OF-- AND NOBODY HAS TO KNOW
  • 00:47:03.133 --> 00:47:07.204
  • YOUR RESULTS, JUST YOU.
  • 00:47:07.204 --> 00:47:08.972
  • BUT GET A LITTLE ASSESSMENTON HOW AM I DOING
  • 00:47:08.972 --> 00:47:11.074
  • ON THOSE THINGS?
  • 00:47:11.074 --> 00:47:12.876
  • - YOU SAID THEREWOULDN'T BE A TEST.
  • 00:47:12.876 --> 00:47:14.278
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:14.278 --> 00:47:16.747
  • - YOU DON'T GETA LETTER GRADE.
  • 00:47:16.747 --> 00:47:19.182
  • - I JUST WANT YOU TO TALK TO MEI'LL REMEMBER IT. NO TESTS.
  • 00:47:19.182 --> 00:47:21.952
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:47:21.952 --> 00:47:23.654
  • - I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BESHORT ON TIME, SO I WANT TO
  • 00:47:23.654 --> 00:47:26.290
  • MAKE SURE WE GET TO THE LASTONE, BUT THE NEXT ONE IN THE
  • 00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:28.659
  • LIST IS BEING BOLD, AND THATMEANS STEPPING
  • 00:47:28.659 --> 00:47:32.095
  • OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE.
  • 00:47:32.095 --> 00:47:33.730
  • THAT MEANS BEING ABLE TO RISKREJECTION. JESUS WAS BOLD.
  • 00:47:33.730 --> 00:47:38.769
  • HE WASN'T ALWAYS ABOUT,HEY, I WANT TO BE WINSOME.
  • 00:47:38.769 --> 00:47:43.907
  • I WANT TO BE APPROACHABLEALL THE TIME.
  • 00:47:43.907 --> 00:47:46.510
  • SOMETIMES HE WOULD SAYTHINGS THAT YOU WENT,
  • 00:47:46.510 --> 00:47:49.046
  • WHOA, REALLY? YIKES, OKAY.
  • 00:47:49.046 --> 00:47:52.182
  • THE MOST DRAMATIC EXAMPLE OFTHAT, OF COURSE, I TELL IN
  • 00:47:52.182 --> 00:47:54.952
  • THE BOOK, IS WHAT HE DID INTHE TEMPLE WHEN HE FELT LIKE
  • 00:47:54.952 --> 00:48:00.290
  • IT WAS BEING DISGRACED WITHTHESE MONEY CHANGERS
  • 00:48:00.290 --> 00:48:03.093
  • THAT WERE TAKINGADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE.
  • 00:48:03.093 --> 00:48:05.095
  • BUT THAT WAS AN EXCEPTION.
  • 00:48:05.095 --> 00:48:07.364
  • BUT I THINK IF YOU WANTTO TRULY LOVE LIKE JESUS,
  • 00:48:07.364 --> 00:48:10.901
  • YOU'VE GOT TO GET A LOCKON THAT CAPACITY TO STEP
  • 00:48:10.901 --> 00:48:13.370
  • OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY LINE OFACCEPTANCE GO, THIS MAY NOT
  • 00:48:13.370 --> 00:48:17.941
  • BE THE POPULAR OPINION HERE,BUT I GOTTA SAY IT, FOLKS.
  • 00:48:17.941 --> 00:48:20.944
  • I GOTTA SAY THE TRUTH.
  • 00:48:20.944 --> 00:48:23.313
  • I GOTTA BE CONGRUENT WITHWHAT I KNOW SCRIPTURE SAYS
  • 00:48:23.313 --> 00:48:27.517
  • AND PUT IT OUTTHERE FOR PEOPLE.
  • 00:48:27.517 --> 00:48:29.019
  • - IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOUBELIEVE TO BE GENUINELY
  • 00:48:29.019 --> 00:48:32.222
  • LOVING, NOT WHAT APPEARSLOVING IN THE MOMENT, AND
  • 00:48:32.222 --> 00:48:35.559
  • THAT IS HARD BECAUSEYOU TO RISK REJECTION.
  • 00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:39.196
  • YOU RISK LOOKING LESS LOVINGWHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:48:39.196 --> 00:48:41.732
  • ACTUALLY SHARING THE TRUTH.
  • 00:48:41.732 --> 00:48:43.800
  • - CAN I MOVETO THE LAST ONE?
  • 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.435
  • BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE NOTGOING TO GET IT, THAT'S
  • 00:48:45.435 --> 00:48:47.371
  • BEING SELF GIVING BECAUSETHIS IS
  • 00:48:47.371 --> 00:48:48.772
  • THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE.
  • 00:48:48.772 --> 00:48:50.273
  • I SAID IT'S KIND OF LIKECLIMBING MOUNT EVEREST.
  • 00:48:50.273 --> 00:48:53.076
  • THIS IS THE PINNACLE,SELF-GIVING, BECAUSE THIS
  • 00:48:53.076 --> 00:48:57.114
  • GOES AGAINST THE GRAIN OFOUR HUMAN NATURE, TO GIVE
  • 00:48:57.114 --> 00:48:59.983
  • YOURSELF AWAY.
  • 00:48:59.983 --> 00:49:02.652
  • I THINK THE GREATESTRELATIONSHIP LESSON THAT HAS
  • 00:49:02.652 --> 00:49:06.923
  • EVER BEEN TAUGHT, THEGREATEST SERMON THAT HAS
  • 00:49:06.923 --> 00:49:09.493
  • EVER BEEN PREACHED, COMES TOTHIS POINT WHERE JESUS SAYS
  • 00:49:09.493 --> 00:49:14.664
  • IN THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT,HEY, EVERYBODY EXPECTS YOU
  • 00:49:14.664 --> 00:49:18.101
  • TO GO THE FIRST MILE, BUT HESAYS, TRY SOMETHING RADICAL.
  • 00:49:18.101 --> 00:49:22.539
  • TRY SOMETHING THAT NOBODYSEES COMING, AND THAT'S
  • 00:49:22.539 --> 00:49:25.609
  • THE NEXT MILE, THEEXTRA MILE, RIGHT?
  • 00:49:25.609 --> 00:49:29.112
  • THAT'S NOT A JUST A FLIPPANTKIND OF CUTE LITTLE SERMON
  • 00:49:29.112 --> 00:49:34.217
  • ILLUSTRATION THAT YOU CANPUT ON A POSTER IN A LOCKER
  • 00:49:34.217 --> 00:49:36.653
  • ROOM, GO THE EXTRA MILE.
  • 00:49:36.653 --> 00:49:38.755
  • THIS IS SOMETHING THATIS TRANSFORMATIVE.
  • 00:49:38.755 --> 00:49:41.058
  • I REMEMBER WHEN THE LESSONWAS DRIVEN HOME FOR ME
  • 00:49:41.058 --> 00:49:45.195
  • BECAUSE I WAS IN ROME.
  • 00:49:45.195 --> 00:49:47.397
  • I WAS ON A TRIP THERE WITHMY DAD, AND I HAD A BUNCH OF
  • 00:49:47.397 --> 00:49:50.600
  • MILES, BY THE WAY, THATWERE GOING TO EXPIRE.
  • 00:49:50.600 --> 00:49:52.736
  • I CAME INTO THE KITCHEN, ANDI TOLD LESLIE, I SAID, WE
  • 00:49:52.736 --> 00:49:54.538
  • HAVE SO MANY MILESON AIRPLANES.
  • 00:49:54.538 --> 00:49:56.306
  • THEY'RE GOING TO EXPIREIF WE DON'T USE THEM.
  • 00:49:56.306 --> 00:49:57.974
  • - HE SAID I'MGOING TO ROME.
  • 00:49:57.974 --> 00:49:59.409
  • - SHE SAYS, THAT'S THE LASTTHING I WANT TO DO IS GET ON
  • 00:49:59.409 --> 00:50:01.011
  • AN AIRPLANE.
  • 00:50:01.011 --> 00:50:02.646
  • SHE SAYS, INVITE YOURDAD TO GO SOMEPLACE.
  • 00:50:02.646 --> 00:50:04.181
  • I CALLED DAD AND SAID,LET'S GO TO ROME.
  • 00:50:04.181 --> 00:50:05.749
  • I SAID, IN FACT, DAD, I WILLCOVER THE AIR FAIRE IF YOU
  • 00:50:05.749 --> 00:50:08.218
  • WANT TO PICK UP ALL THEHOTELS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
  • 00:50:08.218 --> 00:50:10.587
  • WORKED OUT PRETTYWELL FOR ME.
  • 00:50:10.587 --> 00:50:11.888
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:50:11.888 --> 00:50:13.457
  • BUT ANYWAY, WHILE WE WERETHERE, IT JUST REMINDED ME
  • 00:50:13.457 --> 00:50:16.326
  • OF IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE,EVERY LITTLE KID WAS
  • 00:50:16.326 --> 00:50:19.996
  • REQUIRED BY ROMAN LAW TOCARRY A SOLDIER'S BACKPACK
  • 00:50:19.996 --> 00:50:23.467
  • ONE MILE, ONE ROMAN MILE,AND THEN THEY COULD
  • 00:50:23.467 --> 00:50:28.538
  • SET IT DOWN, AND THEYFOLLOWED THE LAW.
  • 00:50:28.538 --> 00:50:31.475
  • IT WAS SUCH APOPULAR CUSTOM.
  • 00:50:31.475 --> 00:50:33.410
  • EVERY LITTLE KID WOULD GOOUT AND PUT A STAKE IN THE
  • 00:50:33.410 --> 00:50:35.679
  • GROUND AND PUT HIS INITIALSON IT SO HE
  • 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.247
  • KNEW HOW FAR THAT WAS.
  • 00:50:37.247 --> 00:50:38.982
  • AND IT WAS SUCH A COMMONTHING, JESUS USED IT AS A
  • 00:50:38.982 --> 00:50:41.651
  • SERMON ILLUSTRATION SAID,HEY, DON'T JUST WALK THE
  • 00:50:41.651 --> 00:50:45.021
  • FIRST MILE, WALK ANOTHERMILE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:50:45.021 --> 00:50:47.090
  • IN YOUR RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:50:47.090 --> 00:50:48.859
  • SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:50:48.859 --> 00:50:50.527
  • AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT OPENSUP THE DOOR FOR EMPATHY, AND
  • 00:50:50.527 --> 00:50:52.729
  • THIS LAST CHAPTER REALLYFOCUSES ON EMPATHY, THAT
  • 00:50:52.729 --> 00:50:55.398
  • CAPACITY TO SEE THE WORLDTHROUGH
  • 00:50:55.398 --> 00:50:57.167
  • SOMEBODY'S ELSE'S PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:50:57.167 --> 00:50:59.402
  • THIS IS ONE OF THE ULTIMATECHALLENGES WE HAVE AS HUMAN
  • 00:50:59.402 --> 00:51:02.906
  • BEINGS, TO SEE THE WORLDFROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S
  • 00:51:02.906 --> 00:51:04.808
  • PERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:51:04.808 --> 00:51:06.776
  • BUT THAT'S WHEN THISSTARTS TO GET REAL.
  • 00:51:06.776 --> 00:51:08.445
  • NOW, I KNOW OUR TIME ISGOING TO EVAPORATE, AND I
  • 00:51:08.445 --> 00:51:10.680
  • HAVE TO TELL YOU ONETHING BEFORE WE'RE DONE.
  • 00:51:10.680 --> 00:51:12.249
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:51:12.249 --> 00:51:13.884
  • THIS IS A CONFESSION.
  • 00:51:13.884 --> 00:51:15.752
  • I DON'T THINK YOUCAN DO ANY OF THESE.
  • 00:51:15.752 --> 00:51:19.623
  • I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TOANY OF THESE FIVE UNTIL YOU
  • 00:51:19.623 --> 00:51:22.626
  • INVITE THE HOLY SPIRIT INTOYOUR LIFE TO SAY,
  • 00:51:22.626 --> 00:51:27.464
  • HELP ME LOVE LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:51:27.464 --> 00:51:29.432
  • BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO IT ONYOUR OWN, IT'S JESUS THAT
  • 00:51:29.432 --> 00:51:32.135
  • LOVES THROUGH YOU.
  • 00:51:32.135 --> 00:51:33.870
  • THAT'S HOW, ULTIMATELY,YOU LOVE LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:51:33.870 --> 00:51:36.439
  • MY FAVORITE -- YOU HAVE NOIDEA YOUR KINDNESS IN WHAT
  • 00:51:36.439 --> 00:51:39.643
  • YOU'VE SAID, INSPITE OF YOUR
  • 00:51:39.643 --> 00:51:41.311
  • RIDICULOUS INTRODUCTION.
  • 00:51:41.311 --> 00:51:43.446
  • - HAD TO BALANCEIT OUT, DIDN'T WE?
  • 00:51:43.446 --> 00:51:45.649
  • - BUT THE LAST CHAPTER INTHIS, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A
  • 00:51:45.649 --> 00:51:48.418
  • LITTLE APPENDIX BECAUSE IWANTED TO
  • 00:51:48.418 --> 00:51:50.120
  • UNDERSTAND THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:51:50.120 --> 00:51:51.821
  • JESUS SAID, I'M LEAVING WITHYOU A FRIEND, AND IT'S THE
  • 00:51:51.821 --> 00:51:54.057
  • FRIEND THAT HELPSYOU DO THIS.
  • 00:51:54.057 --> 00:51:57.260
  • AND IF WE HAD MORE TIME, I'DTALK ABOUT THAT LAST MEAL
  • 00:51:57.260 --> 00:52:01.565
  • THEY HAD, AND THEY WALKACROSS THAT VALLEY UP TO
  • 00:52:01.565 --> 00:52:04.901
  • GETHSEMANE, AND HE STOPPED.
  • 00:52:04.901 --> 00:52:06.937
  • AND HE KNEW THIS WAS THELAST LESSON HE WOULD EVER
  • 00:52:06.937 --> 00:52:09.573
  • HAVE TO TEACH WITH THESEGUYS THAT HAD GIVEN THEIR
  • 00:52:09.573 --> 00:52:12.275
  • LIFE FOR HIM AND VICE-VERSA.
  • 00:52:12.275 --> 00:52:14.578
  • AND THEY WALKED THROUGH THISVINEYARD, AND HE SAYS,
  • 00:52:14.578 --> 00:52:17.514
  • LET ME JUST REMIND YOU.
  • 00:52:17.514 --> 00:52:20.550
  • I'M THE VINE,YOU'RE THE BRANCHES.
  • 00:52:20.550 --> 00:52:23.119
  • I'M GOING TOHELP YOU DO THIS.
  • 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:24.854
  • IN FACT, I'M LEAVING WITHYOU A FRIEND, THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:52:24.854 --> 00:52:27.857
  • SO IF THE HOLY SPIRIT SOUNDSMYSTICAL AND LIKE I JUST
  • 00:52:27.857 --> 00:52:31.828
  • DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS,I WOULD ASK YOUR VIEWERS TO
  • 00:52:31.828 --> 00:52:34.898
  • PAY ATTENTION TO THAT LASTCHAPTER BECAUSE
  • 00:52:34.898 --> 00:52:38.301
  • THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:52:38.301 --> 00:52:39.869
  • - BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:41.605
  • - LOVING LIKE JESUSCOULDN'T BE MORE IMPORTANT.
  • 00:52:41.605 --> 00:52:45.275
  • IF COULDN'T BE MOREIMPORTANT IN LIGHT OF
  • 00:52:45.275 --> 00:52:48.111
  • EVERYTHING THAT 2020 AND2021 HAS BROUGHT TO US.
  • 00:52:48.111 --> 00:52:53.383
  • WE'VE NEVER BEEN THISDIVIDED AS A NATION.
  • 00:52:53.383 --> 00:52:58.888
  • WE'VE NEVER BEEN THISDIVIDED IN MULTIPLICITY OF
  • 00:52:58.888 --> 00:53:03.026
  • DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THE ONLYWAY THROUGH THIS IS
  • 00:53:03.026 --> 00:53:07.564
  • TO LOVE LIKE JESUS.THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
  • 00:53:07.564 --> 00:53:09.933
  • - THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.YOU'RE SO RIGHT.
  • 00:53:09.933 --> 00:53:12.435
  • - LISTEN, WHY DON'T YOUJUST PRAY THIS OVER THE
  • 00:53:12.435 --> 00:53:14.938
  • AUDIENCE, JUST THAT THISWOULD BE SEALED IN THEM.
  • 00:53:14.938 --> 00:53:19.409
  • WE ENCOURAGE YOU.
  • 00:53:19.409 --> 00:53:21.278
  • GET THIS BOOK.
  • 00:53:21.278 --> 00:53:24.481
  • JUST DO IT RIGHT NOW, ANDALL THE INFORMATION
  • 00:53:24.481 --> 00:53:27.050
  • IS ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:53:27.050 --> 00:53:28.685
  • THIS IS OURMONTHLY RESOURCE.
  • 00:53:28.685 --> 00:53:30.420
  • YOU NEED THISBOOK IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:32.756
  • THE WAY THROUGH PROBLEMSIS TO LOVE LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:53:32.756 --> 00:53:36.926
  • THIS IS LITERALLYTHAT IMPORTANT.
  • 00:53:36.926 --> 00:53:39.562
  • LES AND LESLIE, PLEASE, JUSTKIND OF -- THE LAST COUPLE
  • 00:53:39.562 --> 00:53:41.598
  • OF MINUTES AREYOURS, PLEASE.
  • 00:53:41.598 --> 00:53:43.233
  • - I APPRECIATE THAT. LET'S PRAY.
  • 00:53:43.233 --> 00:53:45.101
  • FATHER, WE JUST WANT TOPAUSE HERE AND WRAP THIS
  • 00:53:45.101 --> 00:53:48.071
  • CONVERSATION UP BY SAYINGTHANK YOU FOR LOVING US.
  • 00:53:48.071 --> 00:53:52.809
  • AND WE'RE SO TEMPTED TO LEANINTO THE LAW INSTEAD
  • 00:53:52.809 --> 00:53:57.547
  • OF LOVE AND SAY, HEY,FATHER, LOOK AT THIS.
  • 00:53:57.547 --> 00:54:01.518
  • LOOK HOW LOVING I'M BEING.
  • 00:54:01.518 --> 00:54:03.253
  • WE'RE SO TEMPTED TO KIND OFEARN IT WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY
  • 00:54:03.253 --> 00:54:06.990
  • GIVEN IT TO US.
  • 00:54:06.990 --> 00:54:09.626
  • YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWN US,NOT JUST AS A MODEL, HOW TO
  • 00:54:09.626 --> 00:54:14.064
  • LOVE, BUT YOU'VE GIVEN USTHE POWER TO LOVE LIKE THAT,
  • 00:54:14.064 --> 00:54:19.669
  • AND WE JUST CAN'T SAY THANKSENOUGH BECAUSE IT CHANGES
  • 00:54:19.669 --> 00:54:22.872
  • OUR RELATIONSHIPS. ITCHANGES OUR HOMES.
  • 00:54:22.872 --> 00:54:26.576
  • IT CHANGES THE WAY WE WORKWITH PEOPLE EVEN IN OUR
  • 00:54:26.576 --> 00:54:31.281
  • RELATIONSHIP WITHTOTAL STRANGERS.
  • 00:54:31.281 --> 00:54:34.317
  • SO WE ASK YOU, FRIEND,HOLY SPIRIT, HELP US TO BE
  • 00:54:34.317 --> 00:54:40.790
  • MINDFUL, TO BE APPROACHABLE,GRACEFUL, BOLD, SELF-GIVING.
  • 00:54:40.790 --> 00:54:47.664
  • HELP US TO LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:54:47.664 --> 00:54:51.968
  • IT'S IN YOUR HOLY NAME, THENAME OF JESUS,
  • 00:54:51.968 --> 00:54:55.105
  • WE PRAY THIS. AMEN.
  • 00:54:55.105 --> 00:54:56.740
  • - THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 00:54:56.740 --> 00:54:59.542
  • - WOW, WHAT A WORLD ITWOULD BE IF WE
  • 00:54:59.542 --> 00:55:01.778
  • COULD LOVE LIKE THAT.
  • 00:55:01.778 --> 00:55:03.646
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. THANKYOU, GUYS. BYE BYE.
  • 00:55:03.646 --> 00:55:06.850
  • [MUSIC]
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