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Praise | David & Tim Barton | September 19, 2019

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - TONIGHT ON PRAISE, FROM DALLAS, FOUNDER OF
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  • WALL BUILDERS AND HISTORIAN DAVID BARTON,
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  • PRESIDENT OF WALL BUILDERS AND NATIONAL
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  • SPEAKER TIM BARTON.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND NOW MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH AND TOM NEWMAN.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - MATT CROUCH: COME ON, BIG D!
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  • I LIKE IT.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • WE'RE GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE GAME HERE.
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  • FT. WORTH, TEXAS!
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • ALL RIGHT.
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  • DALLAS, TEXAS!
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • OKLAHOMA.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • OKAY.
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  • SO WELCOME TO PRAISE TONIGHT.
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  • WE ARE IN BIG D.
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  • DAVID AND TIM BARTON ARE OUR GUESTS, AND LOOK,
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  • YOUR SERIES IS ALREADY ON THE AIR.
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  • WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME ATTENTION HERE ON
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  • THE PRAISE PROGRAM TO GET THIS AMAZING INFORMATION
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  • OUT TO OUR VIEWERS.
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  • DAVE, TIM, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT?
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  • - DAVID BARTON: AMERICA'S HEROES IS
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  • THIS SEASON.
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  • AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY WE STARTED COVERING LAST
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  • YEAR WITH THE HOLIDAYS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S
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  • BIOGRAPHIES OF PEOPLE, SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING
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  • STORIES EVERYBODY'S NOT HEARD.
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  • YOU MAY HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE PEOPLE, BUT THE
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  • STORIES ABOUT THEM ARE NEW, AND THEY
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  • ARE INSPIRATIONAL.
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  • THEY'RE CHALLENGING.
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  • THEY'RE FUNNY AT TIMES, BUT THEY ARE AMAZING
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  • STORIES ABOUT SOME GREAT HEROES.
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  • - TIM BARTON: AND SOME CHARACTER LESSONS WE
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  • LEARN IN LIFE WE LEARN THROUGH PEOPLE'S STORIES,
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  • AND IT'S KIND OF SAD TODAY IS THAT EVEN THOUGH
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  • SOMETIMES WE RECOGNIZE THE NAME, WE DON'T KNOW
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  • THE STORY.
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  • IN FACT, IF WE TALKED TO MOST PEOPLE AND SAID TELL
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  • US A STORY ABOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON, THE MOST
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  • COMMON ANSWER WE HEAR IS ABOUT HIS CHERRY TREE
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  • WHICH IS NOT EVEN A TRUE STORY.
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  • THERE WAS A STORY MADE UP ABOUT HIM CHOPPING DOWN A
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  • CHERRY TREE, AND I CANNOT TELL A LIE FATHER, I CUT
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  • DOWN THE TREE.
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  • - FAKE NEWS?
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  • - FAKE NEWS, RIGHT.
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  • #FAKENEWS.
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  • IT WAS DONE TO DEPICT HIS CHARACTER, RIGHT, THAT
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  • TESTIFIES SOMEONE WHO WAS SO HONEST AND HAD SO MUCH
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  • INTEGRITY, BUT IT'S A FAKE STORY, SO THE STORY
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  • THAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON
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  • IS ISN'T EVEN A REAL STORY, SO WHAT WE SAID IS
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  • YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY AMAZING STORIES FROM
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  • AMERICAN HISTORY, AND PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW.
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  • WE NEED TO HELP RETELL THESE STORIES.
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  • AND THERE ARE SO MANY GET CHARACTER LESSONS ALONG
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  • THE WAY THROUGH SO MANY OF THESE LIVES.
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  • - YEAH.
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  • OKAY, SO LET ME JUST SET THE STAGE.
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  • FIRST OF ALL, WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING, WELCOME
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  • TO THE PRAISE PROGRAM.
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  • DAVID AND TIM BARTON HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE TBN
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  • FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME.
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  • IN FACT, LAURIE AND I SAT DOWN WITH YOU, DAVE, A
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  • NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND DID AN AMAZING SERIES,
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  • AMERICAN HERITAGE SERIES, PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO.
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  • WE STILL GET COMMENTS ABOUT THAT BROADCAST AND
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  • THOSE SHOWS BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE SPECIALIZED IN
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  • IS GIVING AMERICANS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE
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  • FOUNDING FATHERS, THE FOUNDING INTENTS, AND
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  • SOMETIMES LIKE TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING
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  • STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WE HAD NO IDEA WERE
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  • PEOPLE OF FAITH, NO IDEA -- A LOT OF TIMES.
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  • SO FIRST OF ALL, WHERE DO YOU GET ALL
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  • THIS INFORMATION?
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  • LET'S START THERE.
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  • WHY AND HOW DID YOU BECOME A NATIONAL
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  • TREASURE YOURSELF BY KNOWING ALL
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  • THIS INFORMATION?
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  • - I GOT THIS INFORMATION -- I GOT INTERESTED BECAUSE
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  • IN GOING PLACES, I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO HISTORICAL
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  • SITES AND SEE THE STORIES, SEE THE STATUES,
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  • WHO IS THAT?
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  • WELL, THAT'S COOL.
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  • I DIDN'T KNOW HE DID THAT.
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  • AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE HISTORY I LOVED, BUT I
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  • DID NOT LIKE THE HISTORY I GOT IN SCHOOL.
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  • HISTORY I GOT IN SCHOOL WAS NO FUN AT ALL, DATES
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  • AND NAMES AND PLACES, NO APPLICATION, NO MEANING.
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  • AND I CAME ACROSS 2 REALLY OLD PIECES OF
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  • AMERICAN HISTORY, ACTUAL DOCUMENTS.
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  • I'D BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS IN SCHOOL.
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  • WHEN I READ THE DOCUMENTS, THEY WERE
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  • TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT SCHOOL TOLD ME ABOUT
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  • THOSE DOCUMENTS.
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  • I GO, OH MY GOSH, SO I STARTED LOOKING FOR OLD
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  • DOCUMENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH
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  • STUFF, AND THE MORE YOU GO BACK TO THE OLD
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  • ORIGINAL STUFF, THE LESS I GUESS POLITICAL
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  • INTERPRETATION IT HAS.
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  • IT'S JUST THE TRUTH.
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  • THAT'S ALL WE CARED ABOUT WAS TRUTH, AND NOW WE
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  • SPIN IT.
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  • - YOU SPENT A LOT OF YOUR WALL BUILDERS
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  • MINISTRY TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY COLLECTING
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  • DOCUMENTS, SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT.
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  • GIVE A NEW STATISTICS OF HOW MANY DOCUMENTS YOU'VE
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  • REVIEWED, SOME OF THE AGES OF THOSE DOCUMENTS
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  • SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT.
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  • - WE HAVE DOCUMENTS LIKE BIBLE DOCUMENTS
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  • GOING BACK INTO THE 1100'S SO ALMOST A
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  • THOUSAND YEARS OLD.
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  • THE OLDEST BIBLE WE HAVE IS 1590 BROUGHT TO
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  • AMERICA BY THE PURITANS IN THE EARLY FOUNDING
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  • OF AMERICA.
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  • SO WE HAVE ABOUT 120.000 ITEMS FROM BEFORE 1812.
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  • ORIGINALS OR COPIES OF ORIGINALS, ONE OF THE
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  • LARGEST COLLECTIONS IN AMERICA OF ORIGINAL
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  • MATERIAL FROM EARLY AMERICA.
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  • WE'VE GOT TONS OF STUFF FROM AFTER THAT.
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  • I MEAN, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS FROM THE 1900'S,
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  • BUT 120.000 FROM 1812 AND BEFORE.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • YOU TALK ABOUT HISTORY BEING BORING UNLESS YOU
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  • CAN CONNECT IT TO A PERSON, UNLESS YOU CAN
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  • CONNECT A STORY,
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  • HUMAN BEINGS LOVE STORIES.
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  • WE LOVE TO HEAR THEM.
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  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - WE LOVE TO TELL THEM, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
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  • SO TOM, JUST FIRST OF ALL LET ME JUST SAY TO YOU
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  • THAT A LOT OF WHAT THIS IS KIND OF CAME UNDER
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  • YOUR LEADERSHIP.
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  • YOU HELPED US WITH A LOT OF THIS CONTENT AND
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  • STUFF, SO WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE
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  • TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IN YOUR WORDS?
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  • - WELL, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY
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  • HEAR THE NAME WALL BUILDERS GO OH, THESE
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  • GUYS ARE WITH TRUMP ON THE WHOLE WALL THING DOWN
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  • IN MEXICO.
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  • TIM, TELL US WHAT WALL BUILDERS IS.
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  • - YEAH, IT'S BECOME A LITTLE CONFUSING OVER THE
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  • LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
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  • WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOUTHERN BORDER.
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  • THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
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  • THE NAME ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE BIBLE BOOK OF
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  • NEHEMIAH WHERE NEHEMIAH WAS SO BROKEN HEARTED
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  • OVER HOW HIS NATION HAD FALLEN, AND HE WANTED TO
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  • SEE HIS NATION REBUILT AND MADE STRONG AGAIN.
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  • AND SO THE CALL FROM NEHEMIAH 2:17 WAS LET US
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  • GO REBUILD THE WALLS THAT WERE NO LONGER A
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  • REPROACH, AND PEOPLE GO, WAIT A SECOND.
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  • YOU CAN NEVER REBUILD JERUSALEM, RIGHT.
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  • PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN
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  • SUPPORTING THE EFFORT WERE GIVING HIM A HARD
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  • TIME, WERE MAKING IT A CHALLENGE FOR HIM, BUT
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  • WHAT WAS SAID TO BE IMPOSSIBLE WAS COMPLETED
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  • IN 52 DAYS.
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  • THIS AMAZING THING THAT HAPPENS, AND REALLY IT
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  • WAS A GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT WHERE NEHEMIAH
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  • SAID EVERYBODY, LET'S JUST GET INVOLVED.
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  • LET'S MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND DO WHAT WE CAN, AND
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  • THIS IMPOSSIBLE PROJECT WAS ALL THE SUDDEN
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  • REBUILT, SO WHEN WE DECADES AGO, MY DAD WAS
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  • LOOKING AT AMERICA AND SAID OKAY, WE HAVE A
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  • NATION -- ALREADY BACK THEN WE CAN SEE WE'RE HEADED
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  • THE WRONG DIRECTION.
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  • WE'RE GOING IN A CRISIS KIND OF MODE.
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  • WE NEED TO REBUILD THE MORAL, THE RELIGIOUS, THE
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  • CONSTITUTIONAL HERITAGE OF THE NATION WHICH WAS
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  • ALREADY UNDER ATTACK, AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS JUST
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  • LIKE NEHEMIAH, LET'S GO BACK AND REBUILD THIS
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  • THING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER REPROACH, SO
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  • THAT'S REALLY THE HEART OF WALL BUILDERS IS WE
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  • WANT TO REBUILD AMERICA.
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  • - SO MATT, WHEN YOU ASKED ME ABOUT WHY, WHY
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  • WE -- DAVID AND I BOTH WENT TO ORAL ROBERTS
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  • UNIVERSITY, AND I WATCHED THIS GUY, AND HE TOOK ON
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  • THE WHOLE THING ABOUT TAKING PRAYER OUT OF
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  • SCHOOL AND THE DECLINE IN OUR SAT SCORES, AND I
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  • JUST KEPT CONNECTING WITH HIM.
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  • AND I KEPT SEEING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WHEN PEOPLE KNOW OF OUR HISTORY, THE RICH
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  • HERITAGE, IT WAS AND IS AND SHOULD STAY A GODLY
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  • BASE, AND IT SHOULD NEVER BE REVISED, AND THIS GUYS
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  • ARE BRAVE ENOUGH AND BOLD ENOUGH TO RESTORE THE
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  • BREACH, TO BASICALLY TELL PEOPLE GUYS, WE CAN STILL
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  • TURN THIS AROUND.
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  • AND AS WE HAD LUNCH TODAY, WE SHARED SOME
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  • EXCITING THINGS ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE
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  • HAPPENING, THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR NATION NOW.
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  • - OKAY.
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  • SO WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE
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  • UNDERSTANDS IS DAVE AND TIM BARTON REGULAR WEEKLY
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  • SERIES RIGHT HERE ON TBN, BRAND-NEW CONTENT,
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  • AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY.
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  • THIS IS A BIT OF A TRAILER THAT WILL SHOW
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  • YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
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  • INFORMATION IS ON THE SCREEN ABOUT WHEN IT AIRS.
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  • WATCH THIS.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DISCOVER AMERICA'S
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  • HIDDEN HISTORY?
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  • A ROAD TRIP.
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  • JOIN DAVID BARTON AND TIM BARTON AS THEY HIT THE
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  • HIGHWAY TO DISCOVER THE HIDDEN HEROES WHO SHAPED
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  • THE AMERICA WE KNOW TODAY.
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  • SOME MADE THE HISTORY BOOKS.
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  • OTHERS DID NOT, YET ONE THING IS CLEAR, THESE
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  • TRAIL BLAZERS, ORIGINATORS AND OUTRIGHT
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  • CHARACTERS LED LIVES AS BIG AS OUR 50 STATES.
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  • THIS SEASON OF AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY COVERS
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  • CHARACTERS LIKE GENERAL DOUGLAS MCARTHUR, ANNIE
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  • OAKLEY, AND FRANCIS SCOTT KEY AS WELL AS
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  • LITTLE KNOWN HEROES, BRONCO CHARLIE, ROBERT
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  • SMALLS AND PHYLLIS WHEATLY, SO BUCKLE UP
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  • AND JOIN THE CONVOY AS THE BARTONS COMB THE
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  • COUNTRY FOR FACTS AND ARTIFACTS ON THESE HIDDEN
  • 00:08:47.230 --> 00:08:51.010
  • HEROES OF OUR NATION'S PAST.
  • 00:08:51.030 --> 00:08:52.270
  • DON'T MISS HIDDEN HEROES ON SEASON TWO OF
  • 00:08:52.290 --> 00:08:55.200
  • AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY ONLY ON TBN.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:08:59.140 --> 00:09:01.030
  • - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:09:01.050 --> 00:09:03.180
  • LOOK, WE ARE TELLING STORIES THAT DON'T GET
  • 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:08.200
  • TOLD AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF BOTH YOU GUYS.
  • 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:12.290
  • KIND OF FINAL COMMENT BEFORE WE START GETTING
  • 00:09:13.010 --> 00:09:15.220
  • INTO SOME OF THESE STORIES.
  • 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.250
  • - YEAH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S WORTH TELLING
  • 00:09:17.270 --> 00:09:20.160
  • SOME OF THESE STORIES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT AMERICA
  • 00:09:20.180 --> 00:09:22.130
  • TODAY OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE PROBLEMS.
  • 00:09:22.150 --> 00:09:24.160
  • THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO SEE DIFFERENT IN OUR
  • 00:09:24.180 --> 00:09:26.120
  • NATION, BUT MOST YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY CAN TELL YOU
  • 00:09:26.140 --> 00:09:29.120
  • A LOT MORE ABOUT THE BAD THINGS WITH AMERICA THAN
  • 00:09:29.140 --> 00:09:31.170
  • ANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT AMERICA.
  • 00:09:31.190 --> 00:09:32.220
  • WE HAVE A VERY BAD TASTE IN OUR MOUTH ABOUT
  • 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:34.200
  • AMERICA, AND PART OF THE REASON IS WE DON'T REALLY
  • 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:36.220
  • KNOW SOME OF THE HEROES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE
  • 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.150
  • THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE, AND EVEN THE WAY WE TEACH
  • 00:09:39.170 --> 00:09:41.220
  • HISTORY HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, MENTIONING WE JUST
  • 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.040
  • DON'T KNOW STORIES ANYMORE.
  • 00:09:44.060 --> 00:09:45.160
  • AND A REALLY FUN EXAMPLE I ENJOY USING WITH KIDS
  • 00:09:45.180 --> 00:09:48.230
  • I SAY OKAY KIDS, HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THE STORY OF
  • 00:09:48.250 --> 00:09:51.100
  • DAVID AND GOLIATH AND OF COURSE IN MOST OF THESE
  • 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.220
  • SETTINGS THEY SAY OH, I'VE HEARD OF DAVID
  • 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.080
  • AND GOLIATH.
  • 00:09:55.100 --> 00:09:56.170
  • I SAY OKAY, WHAT YEAR DID DAVID KILL GOLIATH?
  • 00:09:56.190 --> 00:09:59.040
  • I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YEAR.
  • 00:09:59.060 --> 00:10:01.010
  • DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOWN KNOW WHAT YEAR?
  • 00:10:01.030 --> 00:10:02.280
  • BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY WHAT YEAR.
  • 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.200
  • DO YOU KNOW WHY?
  • 00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:05.270
  • BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THE STORY.
  • 00:10:05.290 --> 00:10:08.020
  • WHAT WE DO TODAY IS WE MAKE THINGS THAT
  • 00:10:08.040 --> 00:10:11.170
  • SHOULDN'T BE THE POINT OF THE STORY THE WHOLE
  • 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.020
  • EMPHASIS AND WE LOSE THE STORY ALONG THE WAY FOR
  • 00:10:13.040 --> 00:10:14.260
  • THE DETAILS.
  • 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:16.190
  • AND SO EVEN WITH KING DAVID IS AN INTERESTING
  • 00:10:16.210 --> 00:10:19.030
  • EXAMPLE BECAUSE KING DAVID IS SOMEONE WHO IF
  • 00:10:19.050 --> 00:10:22.100
  • WE STUDIED HIS LIFE LIKE WE DO HISTORY TODAY, YOU
  • 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:27.240
  • WOULD THINK THAT'S THE MOST EVIL PERSON THAT'S
  • 00:10:27.260 --> 00:10:29.100
  • EVER LIVED BECAUSE LOOK WHAT HE DID WITH URIAH.
  • 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.050
  • AFTER HE HAS THE AFFAIR WITH BATHSHEBA, HE
  • 00:10:32.070 --> 00:10:33.280
  • MURDERED THE GUY.
  • 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:35.120
  • AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BAD FATHER, IF
  • 00:10:35.140 --> 00:10:37.020
  • YOU MEASURED ALL THE MEN IN THE BIBLE, HE'S
  • 00:10:37.040 --> 00:10:39.090
  • PROBABLY THE WORST FATHER IN THE BIBLE.
  • 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:42.030
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT ADONIJAH ABSALOM, WHEN YOU START
  • 00:10:42.050 --> 00:10:45.140
  • GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE GUYS, THERE WERE
  • 00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:48.100
  • SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.
  • 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:49.230
  • BUT WHAT THE BIBLE DOES THE BIBLE TELLS THE WHOLE
  • 00:10:49.250 --> 00:10:51.210
  • STORY, THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.
  • 00:10:51.230 --> 00:10:53.010
  • DAVID WAS ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE WORSHIPPERS WE
  • 00:10:53.030 --> 00:10:55.210
  • SEE IN THE BIBLE.
  • 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:57.050
  • HE WAS AN AMAZING WARRIOR.
  • 00:10:57.070 --> 00:10:58.190
  • HE WAS A MAN AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART, BUT WE TRY TO
  • 00:10:58.210 --> 00:11:01.260
  • REDUCE STORIES DOWN TO MAKE IT SO BASIC.
  • 00:11:01.280 --> 00:11:05.140
  • WE SAY THEY ARE EITHER TOTALLY GOOD OR TOTALLY
  • 00:11:05.160 --> 00:11:07.060
  • BAD, AND REALLY THE REALITY IS THAT NONE OF
  • 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.180
  • US REALLY FALL ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE EQUATIONS.
  • 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.260
  • WE ARE TOTALLY JACKED UP PEOPLE, RIGHT, BUT WHAT'S
  • 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:17.080
  • AMAZING EVEN ABOUT SCRIPTURE IS GOD USES
  • 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:20.090
  • REALLY MESSED UP PEOPLE AND DOES SOMETHING INCREDIBLE.
  • 00:11:20.110 --> 00:11:23.140
  • - COME ON NOW!
  • 00:11:23.160 --> 00:11:24.030
  • - RIGHT?
  • 00:11:24.050 --> 00:11:25.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:25.140 --> 00:11:28.060
  • - THAT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.040
  • - SO EVEN LOOKING BACK TELLING SOME OF THESE
  • 00:11:30.060 --> 00:11:32.210
  • STORIES, WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT IS WE'RE NOT
  • 00:11:32.230 --> 00:11:34.130
  • GOING BACK AND SAYING THESE PEOPLE WERE AMAZING
  • 00:11:34.150 --> 00:11:36.140
  • AND DIDN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
  • 00:11:36.160 --> 00:11:37.220
  • NO, OUR STARTING PLACE WITH ALL OF HISTORY IS
  • 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.260
  • THAT ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE
  • 00:11:39.280 --> 00:11:41.140
  • GLORY OF GOD.
  • 00:11:41.160 --> 00:11:42.210
  • OUR STARTING PLACE IS NOPE, THEY WERE ALL
  • 00:11:42.230 --> 00:11:44.200
  • JACKED UP AND NEEDED JESUS.
  • 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:46.050
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:11:46.070 --> 00:11:47.070
  • - THAT'S OUR STARTING PLACE.
  • 00:11:47.090 --> 00:11:48.130
  • - AUDIENCE, ANYONE JACKED UP, NEED JESUS?
  • 00:11:48.150 --> 00:11:50.180
  • [APPLAUSE] COME ON NOW.
  • 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.240
  • ALL RIGHT. GOOD. OKAY.
  • 00:11:52.260 --> 00:11:55.270
  • LET'S JUMP INTO ANNIE OAKLEY.
  • 00:11:55.290 --> 00:12:00.180
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:01.150
  • - FAMOUS NAME.
  • 00:12:01.170 --> 00:12:02.170
  • DON'T KNOW ANYTHING EXCEPT SHE WAS A
  • 00:12:02.190 --> 00:12:04.060
  • SHARP SHOOTER.
  • 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:05.100
  • THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT HER.
  • 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.010
  • - RIGHT.
  • 00:12:07.030 --> 00:12:08.090
  • SO CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MORE FAMOUS NAMES IN
  • 00:12:08.110 --> 00:12:09.170
  • AMERICAN HISTORY THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW
  • 00:12:09.190 --> 00:12:10.220
  • HER STORY, AND TO REALLY GET BETTER DETAILS
  • 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:12.240
  • THERE'S A WHOLE EPISODE ABOUT THIS SO JUST TUNE
  • 00:12:12.260 --> 00:12:14.280
  • IN AND WATCH THE EPISODE, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING
  • 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.130
  • ONE OF THE REMARKABLE THINGS IS SHE WAS A GIRL
  • 00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:21.190
  • WHO CAME FROM NOTHING, AND WAS THE FIRST
  • 00:12:21.210 --> 00:12:24.200
  • SUPERSTAR FEMALE IN AMERICA AND WAS A PERSON OF
  • 00:12:24.220 --> 00:12:28.030
  • PROFOUND FAITH ALONG THE WAY, NEVER LOST HER
  • 00:12:28.050 --> 00:12:30.100
  • CONSCIENCE, NEVER LOST HER SOUL, WAS ONE OF THE
  • 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.240
  • MOST MODEST PERFORMERS IN AMERICA'S HISTORY, WE
  • 00:12:32.260 --> 00:12:35.230
  • ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL PRETTY COOL THINGS FROM HER.
  • 00:12:35.250 --> 00:12:37.160
  • THIS A 22 LITTLE PUMP RIFLE, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS
  • 00:12:37.180 --> 00:12:42.220
  • SOMETHING IS, IT HAS HER NAME ON THE SIDE.
  • 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.240
  • AS SHE'D TRAVEL AND PERFORM SOME OF THESE
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:47.250
  • SHOOTING EXHIBITIONS, SHE'D DO A EXHIBITION AND
  • 00:12:47.270 --> 00:12:51.040
  • THEN RAFFLE HER RIFLE.
  • 00:12:51.060 --> 00:12:53.140
  • SO THIS WAS A RIFLE SHE'D SHOOT A COMPETITION WITH
  • 00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:55.200
  • OR SHOOT A PERFORMANCE WITH AND RAFFLE OFF.
  • 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:58.020
  • ONE OF THE REALLY COOL THINGS SHE'D DO IN A
  • 00:12:58.040 --> 00:12:59.280
  • PERFORMANCE IS SHE'D HAVE PEOPLE THROW COINS UP IN
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:03.110
  • THE AIR FOR HER AND SHE'D SHOOT THE COINS OUT OF
  • 00:13:03.130 --> 00:13:06.000
  • THE AIR WITH A POLL OR RIFLE, DIDN'T MATTER.
  • 00:13:06.020 --> 00:13:07.270
  • THIS IS A COIN THAT SHE USED IN ONE OF HER
  • 00:13:07.290 --> 00:13:11.250
  • TRAVELS, ACTUALLY WHEN SHE WAS PART OF THE WILD
  • 00:13:11.270 --> 00:13:14.180
  • WEST SHOW WITH BUFFALO BILL.
  • 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.150
  • THEY WERE OVER IN EUROPE.
  • 00:13:16.170 --> 00:13:18.070
  • THEY PERFORMED FOR THE QUEEN.
  • 00:13:18.090 --> 00:13:19.190
  • THIS USED TO HAVE A PICTURE OF THE QUEEN ON
  • 00:13:19.210 --> 00:13:21.120
  • THIS COIN.
  • 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:22.240
  • SHE SHOT THE MIDDLE OUT OF THE COIN WHICH I WOULD
  • 00:13:22.260 --> 00:13:25.070
  • NEVER ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO SHOOT THEIR GUN UP IN
  • 00:13:25.090 --> 00:13:27.090
  • THE AIR AFTER A COIN.
  • 00:13:27.110 --> 00:13:28.160
  • THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY DANGEROUS THING TO DO,
  • 00:13:28.180 --> 00:13:29.270
  • BUT THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE CHALLENGING ASK.
  • 00:13:29.290 --> 00:13:33.140
  • HER HUSBAND HAD BEEN A SHARP SHOOTER AS WELL,
  • 00:13:33.160 --> 00:13:36.050
  • AND ANNIE TRAVELED WITH HIM JUST AS A HELPER, AND
  • 00:13:36.070 --> 00:13:39.050
  • THEN ONE OF HIS GUYS GOT SICK AND COULDN'T
  • 00:13:39.070 --> 00:13:41.030
  • PERFORM, SO ANNIE STEPPED UP AND SHE WAS THE CROWD
  • 00:13:41.050 --> 00:13:44.210
  • FAITH ID, AND FROM THEN ON THE CROWD DIDN'T WANT
  • 00:13:44.230 --> 00:13:46.020
  • TO SEE HIM, ONLY HER.
  • 00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:47.230
  • SO HE BEGAN TO THROW TARGETS FOR HER.
  • 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:49.220
  • BEFORE THERE WERE CLAY TARGETS, THEY HAD THESE
  • 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.080
  • GLASS TARGETS.
  • 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:53.150
  • GLASS BALLS.
  • 00:13:53.170 --> 00:13:54.200
  • - THAT'S ONE OF HER TARGETS.
  • 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:55.260
  • - AND IF PEOPLE HAVE EVER SEEN SKEET SHOOTING
  • 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:59.100
  • OR CLAY PIGEONS WHERE THEY THROW THE SKEET UP
  • 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.260
  • IN THE AIR, THEY'D THROW THESE UP IN THE AIR
  • 00:14:00.280 --> 00:14:03.080
  • ANYWHERE 15, 20, 30, 40 YARDS AWAY.
  • 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:06.040
  • WITH A PISTOL, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN DIDN'T MATTER,
  • 00:14:06.060 --> 00:14:08.240
  • SHE'D SHOOT THEM OUT OF THE AIR.
  • 00:14:08.260 --> 00:14:10.220
  • DURING ONE OF THE CONTESTS HE THREW UP
  • 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.100
  • -- FRANK, HER HUSBAND THROUGH UP A THOUSAND OF
  • 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.000
  • THESE GLASS BALLS.
  • 00:14:14.020 --> 00:14:15.020
  • SHE SHOT ONE 970 WITH HER RIFLE.
  • 00:14:15.040 --> 00:14:19.010
  • SO NOT A SHOTGUN, A RIFLE.
  • 00:14:19.030 --> 00:14:20.110
  • DURING ONE EXHIBITION, HE THREW UP 5.000 OF THESE.
  • 00:14:20.130 --> 00:14:25.050
  • SHE SHOT 4772.
  • 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:27.240
  • AGAIN, PISTOL, RIFLE, SHOTGUN, DIDN'T MATTER.
  • 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:30.140
  • - THAT WAS IN ONE SHOW?
  • 00:14:30.160 --> 00:14:32.100
  • - OH YEAH, OH YEAH.
  • 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:33.260
  • - HOW LONG WAS THE SHOW?
  • 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:35.230
  • - AND WHAT DID YOUR SHOULDER FEEL LIKE
  • 00:14:35.250 --> 00:14:37.050
  • AT THE END?
  • 00:14:37.070 --> 00:14:38.000
  • - YEAH.
  • 00:14:38.020 --> 00:14:39.070
  • - HOW MANY SHOTS IS THAT ON YOUR SHOULDER?
  • 00:14:39.090 --> 00:14:40.210
  • - SHE HAD SO MANY TRICKS.
  • 00:14:40.230 --> 00:14:42.000
  • SHE'D HAVE SOMEONE HOLDUP A CARD LIKE THIS AND
  • 00:14:42.020 --> 00:14:45.030
  • SHE'D SHOOT IT THROUGH THE SIDE SIDEWAYS AND
  • 00:14:45.050 --> 00:14:47.160
  • CUT IT IN HALF.
  • 00:14:47.180 --> 00:14:48.240
  • SHE'D HAVE SOMEONE THROW UP A PLAYING CARD IN THE
  • 00:14:48.260 --> 00:14:51.250
  • AIR AND WITH A PISTOL SHE'D SHOOT IT 6 TIMES BEFORE
  • 00:14:51.270 --> 00:14:53.220
  • SHE'D HIT THE GROUND.
  • 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.000
  • SHE HAD A DOG NAMED DAVE, THIS DOG WAS PART OF THE
  • 00:14:55.020 --> 00:14:59.210
  • SHOW, SHE'D SET THE DOG OUT THERE, PUT AN APPLE
  • 00:14:59.230 --> 00:15:02.010
  • ON HIS HEAD AND SHOOT THE APPLE OFF HIS HEAD.
  • 00:15:02.030 --> 00:15:03.180
  • - BY THE WAY, NEVER DO THAT.
  • 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.240
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:15:05.260 --> 00:15:06.280
  • - DON'T SHOOT AT YOUR DOG, RIGHT?
  • 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.190
  • SO KIDS WATCHING AT HOME, DON'T DO THAT EVER.
  • 00:15:08.210 --> 00:15:12.140
  • NEVER SHOOT AT YOUR DOG.
  • 00:15:12.160 --> 00:15:14.180
  • - THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:15.100
  • - THAT'S A BAD DECISION.
  • 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:16.050
  • VERY WELL TRAINED DOG.
  • 00:15:16.070 --> 00:15:17.050
  • IT SAT THERE, DIDN'T MOVE.
  • 00:15:17.070 --> 00:15:18.100
  • - DAVE WOULD TURN SIDEWAYS WITH HIS NOSE.
  • 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:19.180
  • SHE'D PUT A SUGAR CUBE ON HIS NOSE AND SHOOT THE
  • 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:20.290
  • SUGAR CUBE OFF HIS NOSE.
  • 00:15:21.010 --> 00:15:22.260
  • WHAT SHE DID FOR TRICKS IT WAS AMAZING.
  • 00:15:22.280 --> 00:15:26.160
  • SHE'D DO IT GALLOPING ON A HORSE.
  • 00:15:26.180 --> 00:15:28.060
  • YOU COULD HOLD A CARD UP, SHE'D SHOOT THE ACE OF
  • 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.050
  • SPADES OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE CARD WHILE SHE
  • 00:15:31.070 --> 00:15:33.230
  • WAS GALLOPING.
  • 00:15:33.250 --> 00:15:35.080
  • AMAZING STUFF THAT ANNIE OAKLEY DID. AMAZING.
  • 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:37.180
  • - AND THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY.
  • 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.040
  • - HOW HARD WOULD THAT BE?
  • 00:15:39.060 --> 00:15:40.110
  • - AND THIS IS WHY PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THE EPISODE
  • 00:15:40.130 --> 00:15:43.070
  • BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A GLIMPSE.
  • 00:15:43.090 --> 00:15:45.080
  • THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THE STORY AND THIS AGAIN IS
  • 00:15:45.100 --> 00:15:47.130
  • WHY IT'S COOL.
  • 00:15:47.150 --> 00:15:48.160
  • PEOPLE KNOW THE NAME ANNIE OAKLEY.
  • 00:15:48.180 --> 00:15:49.270
  • THEY DON'T KNOW HER STORY AND HER STORY TRULY
  • 00:15:49.290 --> 00:15:51.160
  • IS REMARKABLE.
  • 00:15:51.180 --> 00:15:52.220
  • - OKAY.
  • 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.000
  • IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, WE ARE DOING AMERICA'S
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:55.270
  • HIDDEN HISTORY.
  • 00:15:55.290 --> 00:15:58.010
  • DAVE AND TIM BARTON ARE HERE ALL NIGHT.
  • 00:15:58.030 --> 00:16:01.040
  • BASS REEVES, WHO IS HE AND WHY DO WE NEED TO
  • 00:16:01.060 --> 00:16:03.010
  • KNOW HIM?
  • 00:16:03.030 --> 00:16:04.200
  • - LOVE BASS REEVES.
  • 00:16:04.220 --> 00:16:06.030
  • BASS REEVES WAS BORN IN 1838 INTO SLAVERY AND HE
  • 00:16:06.050 --> 00:16:09.240
  • WAS A SLAVE IN TEXAS.
  • 00:16:09.260 --> 00:16:11.130
  • HE BEAT UP HIS MASTER, ESCAPED AND GOTTA WAY
  • 00:16:11.150 --> 00:16:14.130
  • FROM SLAVERY.
  • 00:16:14.150 --> 00:16:15.220
  • HE WENT INTO THE OKLAHOMA AREA WHICH AT THAT TIME
  • 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.240
  • WAS FIVE INDIAN TRIBES.
  • 00:16:17.260 --> 00:16:19.110
  • HE WENT INTO THE WILD PART OF THE NATION.
  • 00:16:19.130 --> 00:16:21.070
  • NOBODY WENT INTO THAT INDIAN TRIBE AREA, AND
  • 00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:23.140
  • THAT'S WHERE ALL OUTLAWS WENT AND THAT'S WHERE HE
  • 00:16:23.160 --> 00:16:25.260
  • WENT FOR SAFETY.
  • 00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:27.030
  • HE LIVED THERE LONG ENOUGH, HE SAID I KNOW
  • 00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:29.100
  • THE OKLAHOMA TERRITORY LIKE A WOMAN KNOWS
  • 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.020
  • HER KITCHEN.
  • 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:32.100
  • AND SO WHAT HAPPENED -- - WHICH IS NOT
  • 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.200
  • DEROGATORY AT THAT TIME, OKAY.
  • 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:35.130
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:35.150 --> 00:16:36.210
  • SOMEBODY TODAY IS GOING TO GO WAIT A SECOND.
  • 00:16:36.230 --> 00:16:37.120
  • NO, NO, IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:16:37.140 --> 00:16:39.030
  • - SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR IS
  • 00:16:39.050 --> 00:16:42.020
  • OVER HE GETS HIS FREEDOM.
  • 00:16:42.040 --> 00:16:43.210
  • HE MOVES BACK INTO ARKANSAS, AND PRESIDENT
  • 00:16:43.230 --> 00:16:47.140
  • ULYSSES S. GRANT
  • 00:16:47.160 --> 00:16:48.270
  • SENDS JUDGE ISAAC PARKER TO ARKANSAS AND
  • 00:16:48.290 --> 00:16:51.280
  • SAYS YOU NEED TO BRING LAW AND ORDER THERE
  • 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.260
  • BECAUSE ALL THESE OUTLAWS FROM THAT PART HAVE GONE
  • 00:16:53.280 --> 00:16:56.030
  • OVER INTO THE INDIAN TERRITORY.
  • 00:16:56.050 --> 00:16:57.180
  • AND SO AS ISAAC PARKER GETS THERE AS A JUDGE, HE
  • 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:00.160
  • NEEDS SOME DEPUTIES, AND YOU GOT BASS REEVES,
  • 00:17:00.180 --> 00:17:04.050
  • BLACK COWBOY WHO KNOWS THAT AREA, SO HE SAYS
  • 00:17:04.070 --> 00:17:07.130
  • I'LL BE YOUR DEPUTY.
  • 00:17:07.150 --> 00:17:08.250
  • SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BASS REEVES BECOMES THE
  • 00:17:08.270 --> 00:17:11.100
  • MOST EFFECTIVE FEDERAL DEPUTY EVER IN THAT AREA.
  • 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:14.140
  • HE'S THE ONLY GUY TO SERVE FROM THAT TERRITORIAL
  • 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.010
  • TIME ALL THE WAY TO OKLAHOMA STATEHOOD.
  • 00:17:17.030 --> 00:17:19.070
  • HE MADE MORE THAN 3.000 ARRESTS.
  • 00:17:19.090 --> 00:17:22.000
  • - LET ME JUST ADD MAKING 3.000 ARRESTS IS EVEN
  • 00:17:22.020 --> 00:17:24.030
  • MORE IMPRESSIVE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT HE
  • 00:17:24.050 --> 00:17:26.090
  • COULD NOT READ.
  • 00:17:26.110 --> 00:17:27.290
  • - OH MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:17:28.010 --> 00:17:29.170
  • - SO HE MEMORIZED EVERY SINGLE WARRANT HE GOT
  • 00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:32.140
  • WHICH TELLS HE HAD A GREAT MIND TO MEMORIZE
  • 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.150
  • ALL OF THAT, BUT IT ALSO MAKES ONE OF HIS TRICKS
  • 00:17:34.170 --> 00:17:38.020
  • THAT HE USED TO ARREST PEOPLE EVEN
  • 00:17:38.040 --> 00:17:40.040
  • MORE BRILLIANT.
  • 00:17:40.060 --> 00:17:41.040
  • WHAT DID HE DO?
  • 00:17:41.060 --> 00:17:42.170
  • - IT'S REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE HE'D -- AND BY THE
  • 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:45.060
  • WAY, WHEN HE'D GO AFTER THESE GUYS HE'D GO OUT ON
  • 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:46.160
  • AN 800 MILE CIRCUIT CAN A WHOLE STACK OF WARRANTS
  • 00:17:46.180 --> 00:17:48.290
  • AND HE MIGHT COME BACK WITH 15, 16, 18 GUYS
  • 00:17:49.010 --> 00:17:51.000
  • CARRYING THEM IN TOW.
  • 00:17:51.020 --> 00:17:52.140
  • SO AS HE'S LOOKING FOR THESE GUYS HAVING
  • 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.130
  • MEMORIZED HE WAS OUT AT ONE POINT AND A COUPLE OF
  • 00:17:54.150 --> 00:17:58.070
  • GUYS HE WAS LOOKING FOR FOUND HIM FIRST, AND THEY
  • 00:17:58.090 --> 00:18:01.010
  • KNEW THAT HE WAS COMING FOR THEM, THAT HE WAS
  • 00:18:01.030 --> 00:18:02.240
  • GOING TO KILL THEM -- THEY WERE GOING TO KILL BASS
  • 00:18:02.260 --> 00:18:05.150
  • REEVES, SO BASS SAYS, AND THEY SAID WELL, AND THEY
  • 00:18:05.170 --> 00:18:08.200
  • SAID DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE KILL YOU?
  • 00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:09.260
  • HE SAID I'VE GOT A LETTER FROM MY WIFE.
  • 00:18:09.280 --> 00:18:11.250
  • CAN I READ THIS LETTER?
  • 00:18:11.270 --> 00:18:12.280
  • WELL, HE CAN'T READ.
  • 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.070
  • SO HE PULLS THE LETTER, AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.
  • 00:18:14.090 --> 00:18:15.170
  • HE PULLS THE LETTER OUT, STARTS READING THE
  • 00:18:15.190 --> 00:18:16.280
  • LETTER, AND AS HE STARTS READING, STRUGGLING WITH
  • 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.180
  • IT, ASKS FOR HELP, THEY COME, AND WHEN THEY LOOK
  • 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:21.190
  • AT THE LETTER HE PULLS HIS GUN ON THEM AND
  • 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:23.100
  • CAPTURES THEM.
  • 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:24.170
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:24.190 --> 00:18:26.060
  • - AND HE SAID HE USED THIS SEVERAL TIMES,
  • 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:28.110
  • [TEARFULLY]SO I JUST CAN'T -- CAN YOU READ THIS FOR ME,
  • 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:31.180
  • AND THEY LOOK AT THE LETTER, HE DREW HIS GUN.
  • 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.200
  • - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:34.290
  • - IT'S AWESOME. I LOVE IT. THIS GUY IS AWESOME.
  • 00:18:35.010 --> 00:18:37.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:37.130 --> 00:18:38.140
  • - AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE A VERY EDUCATED
  • 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.250
  • WHITE GUY WHO'S A CONGRESSMAN WITH A VERY
  • 00:18:40.270 --> 00:18:43.070
  • BRILLIANT BLACK GUY WHO'S IN SLAVERY AND CANNOT
  • 00:18:43.090 --> 00:18:45.100
  • READ AND THEY'RE BEST FRIENDS.
  • 00:18:45.120 --> 00:18:47.220
  • IN SO MANY WAYS THEY WORKED WITH EACH OTHER.
  • 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.150
  • AND WHAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER WAS THEIR CHRISTIAN
  • 00:18:49.170 --> 00:18:51.050
  • FAITH. THEY BOTH HAD A LOVE FOR THE LORD, AND THEY BOTH
  • 00:18:51.070 --> 00:18:53.110
  • HAD A LOVE FOR JUSTICE AND DOING THE RIGHT THING.
  • 00:18:53.130 --> 00:18:55.240
  • AND HE DID THE RIGHT THING EVEN WHEN IT WAS
  • 00:18:55.260 --> 00:18:57.170
  • DIFFICULT FOR HIM.
  • 00:18:57.190 --> 00:18:59.100
  • OF ALL THE PEOPLE HE ARRESTED, HE HAD TO
  • 00:18:59.120 --> 00:19:01.120
  • ARREST HIS OWN PASTOR, THE GUY WHO BAPTIZED HIM
  • 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:04.050
  • IN THE FAITH, BECAUSE HIS PASTOR WAS SELLING
  • 00:19:04.070 --> 00:19:07.080
  • WHISKEY IN THE INDIAN TERRITORY.
  • 00:19:07.100 --> 00:19:09.090
  • AND HIS PASTOR SAID WELL, I'M DOING IT TO RAISE
  • 00:19:09.110 --> 00:19:11.010
  • MONEY TO PAY OFF THE DEBT OF THE CHURCH.
  • 00:19:11.030 --> 00:19:12.160
  • NO, NO, NO, IT'S ILLEGAL TO SELL WHISKEY.
  • 00:19:12.180 --> 00:19:15.130
  • SO HE HAD TO ARREST HIS OWN PASTOR.
  • 00:19:15.150 --> 00:19:17.230
  • SO I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING STUFF.
  • 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:19.140
  • - WHAT YEAR ARE WE TALKING?
  • 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.080
  • - WE'RE TALKING FROM ABOUT 1870 UNTIL ABOUT 1907,
  • 00:19:21.100 --> 00:19:27.190
  • SO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
  • 00:19:27.210 --> 00:19:29.280
  • HE'S JUST A PHENOMENAL LAWMAN. PHENOMENAL LAWMAN.
  • 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.000
  • - OKAY. BRONCO CHARLIE.
  • 00:19:33.020 --> 00:19:37.080
  • - BRONCO CHARLIE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES.
  • 00:19:37.100 --> 00:19:39.030
  • HE WAS CONSIDERED THE MOST FAMOUS RIDER EVER TO
  • 00:19:39.050 --> 00:19:41.140
  • RIDE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS.
  • 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.090
  • WE HAVE A BOOK THAT IS HIS BIOGRAPHY, AND THIS IS
  • 00:19:43.110 --> 00:19:47.250
  • BRONCO CHARLIE. NOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE
  • 00:19:47.270 --> 00:19:50.020
  • WHEN HE RODE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS BECAUSE WHEN
  • 00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:52.090
  • HE RODE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS, HE AT THAT TIME
  • 00:19:52.110 --> 00:19:54.140
  • WAS ONLY ELEVEN YEARS OLD.
  • 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.140
  • - MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.260
  • - SO ALSO TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE, THE PONY
  • 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:59.110
  • EXPRESS, THIS IS A REPRINT OF ONE OF THEIR
  • 00:19:59.130 --> 00:20:01.260
  • WANTED POSTERS.
  • 00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:03.100
  • SO ON THIS WANTED POSTER, IT SAYS THEY WOULD GO
  • 00:20:03.120 --> 00:20:05.170
  • FROM SAINT JOSEPH, MISSOURI TO CALIFORNIA IN
  • 00:20:05.190 --> 00:20:07.210
  • TEN DAYS OR LESS.
  • 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:09.160
  • THAT'S 1800 MILES ON HORSEBACK.
  • 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:12.180
  • - IN TEN DAYS.
  • 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:14.100
  • - YOU'RE AVERAGING 180 MILES A DAY ON HORSEBACK,
  • 00:20:14.120 --> 00:20:17.090
  • WHICH IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON A TRAIL RIDE, AFTER
  • 00:20:17.110 --> 00:20:19.130
  • 15, 20, 30 MILES YOUR BOTTOM HURTS. YOU'RE DONE.
  • 00:20:19.150 --> 00:20:22.280
  • THE HORSE IS TIRED. THEY AVERAGED 180 MILES.
  • 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.160
  • BUT THIS IS THEIR RECRUITING POSTER.
  • 00:20:25.180 --> 00:20:27.090
  • SO IT SAYS WANTED, YOUNG, SKINNY, WIRY FELLOWS, NOT
  • 00:20:27.110 --> 00:20:30.020
  • OVER 18, MUST BE EXPERT RIDERS, WILLING TO RISK
  • 00:20:30.040 --> 00:20:33.140
  • DEATH DAILY, ORPHANS PREFERRED, $25 DOLLARS A WEEK.
  • 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.220
  • - MATT: COME ON NOW!
  • 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:40.200
  • HOW MANY ARE READY TO RIDE? COME ON.
  • 00:20:40.220 --> 00:20:42.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:42.270 --> 00:20:45.220
  • - NOW, $25 DOLLARS A WEEK IS REALLY REALLY GOOD PAY.
  • 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:49.270
  • - BACK THEN THAT'S HUGE MONEY.
  • 00:20:49.290 --> 00:20:52.050
  • - BUT WHY DID YOU PREFER ORPHANS?
  • 00:20:52.070 --> 00:20:54.110
  • BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS A DANGEROUS JOB.
  • 00:20:54.130 --> 00:20:56.280
  • BRONCO CHARLIE ACTUALLY HAD HIS DAD VOLUNTEER HIM.
  • 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:00.240
  • HIS DAD-- ACTUALLY THERE WAS A HORSE THAT RODE
  • 00:21:00.260 --> 00:21:03.170
  • INTO TOWN AND IT WAS THE MAIL HORSE.
  • 00:21:03.190 --> 00:21:05.140
  • THE RIDER WAS GONE.
  • 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:06.290
  • THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THEY KNOW
  • 00:21:07.010 --> 00:21:08.100
  • THE MAIL HAS TO KEEP GOING.
  • 00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:10.050
  • - PONY EXPRESS HORSE.
  • 00:21:10.070 --> 00:21:11.290
  • - SO HE AND HIS DAD RAN TO THE STATION.
  • 00:21:12.010 --> 00:21:13.100
  • HIS DAD KNEW THE STATION MASTER.
  • 00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:14.190
  • THE STATION MASTER SAID WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?
  • 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:16.010
  • I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO GO.
  • 00:21:16.030 --> 00:21:17.190
  • AND HIS DAD SAYS, OR ACTUALLY HE SAID "MY DAD
  • 00:21:17.210 --> 00:21:20.110
  • LOOKED AT ME AND I LOOKED AT MY DAD AND WE JUST
  • 00:21:20.130 --> 00:21:22.040
  • KNEW" IS WHAT HE WROTE IN HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY.
  • 00:21:22.060 --> 00:21:24.000
  • HIS DAD PICKED HIM UP, PUT HIM ON THE HORSE,
  • 00:21:24.020 --> 00:21:25.170
  • HIS DAD SAID GO, AND HE JUST TOOK OFF RIDING.
  • 00:21:25.190 --> 00:21:29.030
  • BACK THEN, THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROAD IN TO TOWN AND
  • 00:21:29.050 --> 00:21:31.190
  • ONE ROAD OUT OF TOWN, SO IT WASN'T AS CONFUSING TO
  • 00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:33.210
  • FIGURE OUT, BUT HE RODE 40 MILES TO THE NEXT
  • 00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:36.170
  • STATION TO HAND OFF THE MAIL.
  • 00:21:36.190 --> 00:21:39.180
  • WELL THE STATION MASTER SAID WE APPRECIATE YOU
  • 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:41.240
  • COMING, BUT SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO RIDE BACK
  • 00:21:41.260 --> 00:21:43.210
  • THE NEXT DAY, SO THEY SENT HIM BACK THE NEXT
  • 00:21:43.230 --> 00:21:45.140
  • DAY WITH MAIL GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION.
  • 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:47.070
  • BUT HE GOT BACK TO WHERE HE HAD FIRST MET THE
  • 00:21:47.090 --> 00:21:48.260
  • HORSE, WELL THE RIDER WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP HASN'T
  • 00:21:48.280 --> 00:21:51.180
  • SHOWED UP YET, SO SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE IT
  • 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.110
  • BACK ANOTHER DIRECTION.
  • 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:54.190
  • HE RODE 77 MILES AS AN ELEVEN YEAR OLD TAKING
  • 00:21:54.210 --> 00:21:56.270
  • THE MAIL BACK AND FORTH.
  • 00:21:56.290 --> 00:21:58.140
  • AND THEN THEY DECIDED WE NEED TO INCREASE HIS
  • 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.180
  • DISTANCE TO 170 MILES BECAME HIS ROUTE OF THE
  • 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.280
  • PONY EXPRESS. NOW, HE'S ELEVEN.
  • 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:05.280
  • WHEN I WAS ELEVEN, I COULDN'T GO TO THE
  • 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.190
  • MALL BY MYSELF, RIGHT?
  • 00:22:08.210 --> 00:22:11.120
  • I MEAN THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE STUFF.
  • 00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:13.220
  • WELL THE PONY EXPRESS ONLY GOES ON FOR A YEAR
  • 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:15.280
  • AND A HALF BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EXPANSION OF THE
  • 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.090
  • RAILROAD, THE TELEGRAPH MAKES IT OUT WEST.
  • 00:22:18.110 --> 00:22:19.280
  • HE BECOMES VERY FAMOUS, ENDS UP BEING PART OF
  • 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:21.190
  • BUFFALO BILL'S WILD WEST.
  • 00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:23.160
  • HE LEAVES THE WILD WEST SHOW WHEN HE'S 44.
  • 00:22:23.180 --> 00:22:26.010
  • - BY THE WAY, GOING BACK TO WHEN HE'S ELEVEN, HE
  • 00:22:26.030 --> 00:22:27.270
  • ALSO GETS SHOT BY INDIANS AND IT'S JUST LIKE PULL
  • 00:22:27.290 --> 00:22:32.190
  • THE ARROWS OUT, SHAKE IT OFF, YOU'RE FINE.
  • 00:22:32.210 --> 00:22:34.070
  • IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
  • 00:22:34.090 --> 00:22:35.170
  • - SHOT ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.
  • 00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:37.030
  • - HE PULLED ARROWS OUT OF HIS BODY?
  • 00:22:37.050 --> 00:22:39.050
  • - WELL, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HIM OR HIS DAD.
  • 00:22:39.070 --> 00:22:41.150
  • WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE ARROWS GOT PULLED OUT
  • 00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:43.210
  • AND HIS DAD TOLD HIM TO KEEP RIDING.
  • 00:22:43.230 --> 00:22:46.070
  • SO YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS.
  • 00:22:46.090 --> 00:22:50.040
  • - AND TIM, WHEN YOU SAID A MAIL HORSE,
  • 00:22:50.060 --> 00:22:51.220
  • YOU DIDN'T MEAN A BOY HORSE,
  • 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.040
  • YOU MEAN A HORSE THAT HAD MAIL ON IT.
  • 00:22:53.060 --> 00:22:54.180
  • - CORRECT. GOOD CLARIFICATION. CORRECT.
  • 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.290
  • I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE HORSE HE
  • 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:59.020
  • RODE, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT IT WAS A HORSE TO DELIVER
  • 00:22:59.040 --> 00:23:03.210
  • MAIL. PONY EXPRESS WAS A BUSINESS THAT WAS
  • 00:23:03.230 --> 00:23:06.050
  • DELIVERING MAIL BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
  • 00:23:06.070 --> 00:23:09.170
  • BUT AS HIS LIFE GOES ON, HIS LIFE IS FULL OF
  • 00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:12.290
  • ADVENTURE. WHEN HE'S 44, HE RETIRES TO A FARM.
  • 00:23:13.010 --> 00:23:16.200
  • HE'S MARRIED. THEY HAVE SEVERAL KIDS.
  • 00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:18.210
  • SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 44 AND THE NEXT TIME HE WRITES
  • 00:23:18.230 --> 00:23:22.170
  • ABOUT THIS, THE NEXT TEN OR FIFTEEN YEARS, HIS
  • 00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:24.260
  • FAMILY GOT BLACK DIPHTHERIA. PLAGUE BROKE OUT.
  • 00:23:24.280 --> 00:23:28.240
  • IT ACTUALLY KILLED HIS THREE KIDS.
  • 00:23:28.260 --> 00:23:30.270
  • HIS WIFE WAS INCREDIBLY SICK.
  • 00:23:30.290 --> 00:23:32.280
  • THEY PUT A QUARANTINE ON THE HOUSE.
  • 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:34.100
  • THEY WEREN'T SURE THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE IT.
  • 00:23:34.120 --> 00:23:36.150
  • AND AT THIS POINT, HE WAS WALKING THROUGH TOWN,
  • 00:23:36.170 --> 00:23:40.070
  • HEARD THE SALVATION ARMY BAND PLAYING, AND HEARD
  • 00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:43.090
  • THE SONG-- AND SALVATION ARMY BAND BACK THEN WAS
  • 00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:46.030
  • REALLY TRYING TO WIN LOST SOULS, SO THE MUSIC THEY
  • 00:23:46.050 --> 00:23:50.020
  • WERE PLAYING WAS REALLY EVANGELISTIC KIND OF MUSIC.
  • 00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:52.240
  • AND HE STOPPED AND LISTENED, AND SO HERE'S
  • 00:23:52.260 --> 00:23:55.110
  • SOME SONG ABOUT JESUS. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH SONG.
  • 00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:57.200
  • WELL, HE WRITES ABOUT IT IN THIS LETTER.
  • 00:23:57.220 --> 00:24:01.060
  • THIS IS THE ONLY LETTER IN KNOWN EXISTENCE FROM
  • 00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:04.020
  • BRONCO CHARLIE, BUT IN THIS LETTER HE WRITES
  • 00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:06.100
  • ABOUT HIS CONVERSION AT THE END OF THIS LETTER.
  • 00:24:06.120 --> 00:24:09.180
  • HE THEN WRITES THAT LATER IN LIFE, GOD GAVE HIM AND
  • 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:12.040
  • HIS WIFE TWO MORE KIDS.
  • 00:24:12.060 --> 00:24:13.270
  • HE SAYS GOD RESTORED TO ME MY WIFE AND GAVE US
  • 00:24:13.290 --> 00:24:16.130
  • TWO KIDS. SO REALLY COOL, HE GETS SAVED.
  • 00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:19.030
  • BUT HE'S KIND OF AN ADVENTURE JUNKIE, SO WHEN
  • 00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:22.130
  • HE'S 67 WORLD WAR I BREAKS OUT.
  • 00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:25.040
  • HE DECIDES AS A 67 YEAR OLD, HE WANTS TO BE PART
  • 00:24:25.060 --> 00:24:28.090
  • OF WORLD WAR I. SO HE GOES AND SIGNS UP.
  • 00:24:28.110 --> 00:24:31.030
  • BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE MOST AMERICAN RECRUITING
  • 00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:33.100
  • OFFICES TODAY WOULD SAY SIR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR
  • 00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.020
  • VIGOR AND ENERGY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 67 YEAR OLDS.
  • 00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:38.120
  • BUT HIS FRIEND TOLD HIM CANADA WILL TAKE YOU UP TO
  • 00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:41.020
  • THE AGE OF 44, SO HE GOT ON HIS HORSE AND RODE TO
  • 00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:43.270
  • CANADA. YOU CAN IMAGINE HE SAID I'M 44 AND
  • 00:24:43.290 --> 00:24:46.150
  • I WANT TO FIGHT EH?
  • 00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:48.030
  • SO THE CANADIANS WERE LIKE HEY, YOU CAN
  • 00:24:48.050 --> 00:24:49.190
  • COME FIGHT WITH US.
  • 00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.020
  • HE FOUGHT WITH THEM FOR TWO YEARS, HE SAYS,
  • 00:24:51.040 --> 00:24:52.220
  • UNTIL HE WAS OVERSEAS.
  • 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.040
  • THEY CALLED HIM PAPS, THEY KNEW HE WAS OLDER
  • 00:24:54.060 --> 00:24:56.030
  • BUT HE ENTERTAINED THEM WITH STORIES.
  • 00:24:56.050 --> 00:24:57.200
  • AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE GUY THAT RODE FOR THE
  • 00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:59.230
  • PONY EXPRESS, WAS PART OF BUFFALO BILL'S WILD WEST
  • 00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:01.190
  • SHOW, HE HAD SOME GREAT STORIES.
  • 00:25:01.210 --> 00:25:03.160
  • WELL, HE SAYS ONE DAY HE TOLD THEM HOW OLD HE
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.200
  • ACTUALLY WAS, AND HIS COMMANDER SAID YOU'RE
  • 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.140
  • GONNA NEED TO GO BACK.
  • 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.080
  • WE CAN'T HAVE A 69 YEAR OLD OVER HERE.
  • 00:25:09.100 --> 00:25:10.250
  • THEY SENT HIM HOME.
  • 00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:12.040
  • WHEN HE WAS 80, HE WANTED TO RELIVE THE GLORY DAYS,
  • 00:25:12.060 --> 00:25:14.090
  • THE PONY EXPRESS.
  • 00:25:14.110 --> 00:25:15.160
  • HE RODE FROM NEW YORK TO CALIFORNIA DELIVERING AN
  • 00:25:15.180 --> 00:25:17.250
  • OFFICIAL MAIL DISPATCH AS AN 80 YEAR OLD ON ONE HORSE.
  • 00:25:17.270 --> 00:25:20.290
  • IT TOOK HIM SEVEN MONTHS TO MAKE THE JOURNEY,
  • 00:25:21.010 --> 00:25:23.090
  • LIVING OUTSIDE ALL ALONG THE WAY.
  • 00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:26.260
  • SO THUNDER STORMS, RAIN, DIDN'T MATTER, COLD, HOT,
  • 00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:29.190
  • HE ENDURED IT, DELIVERED THE MAIL.
  • 00:25:29.210 --> 00:25:31.270
  • WHEN HE WAS 92, WORLD WAR II BROKE OUT.
  • 00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:34.130
  • AGAIN, ADVENTURE JUNKY, HE GOES AND SIGNS UP
  • 00:25:34.150 --> 00:25:37.130
  • FOR WORLD WAR II.
  • 00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:39.040
  • - WHICH COUNTRY DID HE SIGN UP FOR NOW?
  • 00:25:39.060 --> 00:25:42.240
  • - HE WANTS A PIECE OF HITLER APPARENTLY.
  • 00:25:42.260 --> 00:25:44.180
  • SO HE GOES AND SIGNS UP FOR WORLD WAR II.
  • 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.070
  • THEY TELL HIM AGAIN SIR, YOU'RE TOO OLD.
  • 00:25:47.090 --> 00:25:49.130
  • BUT THIS TIME THEY RECOGNIZE THAT'S BRONCO CHARLIE.
  • 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:52.040
  • THIS GUY IS REALLY FAMOUS.
  • 00:25:52.060 --> 00:25:53.140
  • - THIS IS FAMOUS. I MEAN THAT'S LIKE LOOKING AT
  • 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.170
  • AN A-LISTER IN HOLLYWOOD.
  • 00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.100
  • - SO THEY REQUESTED IF HE WOULD ACTUALLY DO SOME
  • 00:25:57.120 --> 00:26:01.000
  • OF THESE RALLIES TO SELL WAR BONDS TO HELP RAISE
  • 00:26:01.020 --> 00:26:05.020
  • MONEY. SO THEY SAID WELL THE TRAIN'S GONNA GO FROM
  • 00:26:05.040 --> 00:26:07.260
  • LOCATION TO LOCATION, AND HE SAYS WHOA, I DON'T
  • 00:26:07.280 --> 00:26:10.140
  • RIDE TRAINS. I'M A COWBOY, I RIDE HORSES.
  • 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.250
  • JUST TELL ME WHERE TO GO.
  • 00:26:12.270 --> 00:26:14.010
  • AS A 92 YEAR OLD, IT WAS REPORTED THAT HE RODE TO
  • 00:26:14.030 --> 00:26:16.140
  • THE TOWNS WHERE THEY WERE, ON HIS HORSE, HE
  • 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.160
  • RODE TO THOSE TOWNS TO DO THESE RALLIES.
  • 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:20.240
  • - MET THE TRAIN. DID THE RALLY.
  • 00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:22.250
  • - WHEN HE WAS A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, HE WAS
  • 00:26:22.270 --> 00:26:24.010
  • INTERVIEWED BY A REPORTER.
  • 00:26:24.030 --> 00:26:25.130
  • IT WAS ONE DAY BEFORE HIS 101ST BIRTHDAY, AND THE
  • 00:26:25.150 --> 00:26:27.110
  • REPORTER SAID SIR, AFTER YOUR AMAZING LIFE,
  • 00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:29.140
  • ARE THERE ANY REGRETS YOU HAVE?
  • 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.010
  • HE SAYS THERE'S ONLY ONE REGRET I HAVE, THAT I
  • 00:26:31.030 --> 00:26:33.080
  • CAN'T BE WITH MY BROTHERS IN KOREA RIGHT NOW AS
  • 00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:34.290
  • THEY'RE FIGHTING THIS WAR.
  • 00:26:35.010 --> 00:26:36.140
  • HE SAYS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WON'T TAKE ME.
  • 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.020
  • I CAN RIDE A HORSE AS GOOD AS I EVER COULD.
  • 00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:41.000
  • HE SAID IN FACT, I CAN TAKE A BULL WHIP AND AT
  • 00:26:41.020 --> 00:26:43.060
  • MORE THAN 20 FEET I CAN CRACK A CIGARETTE IN HALF.
  • 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:45.170
  • I COULD STILL BE USEFUL. HE DIED AT 105.
  • 00:26:45.190 --> 00:26:50.070
  • BUT HIS ENTIRE LIFE IS AN AMAZING STORY!
  • 00:26:50.090 --> 00:26:53.290
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:26:54.010 --> 00:26:57.140
  • - OKAY, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, WE'RE TALKING
  • 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.080
  • ABOUT AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY.
  • 00:27:00.100 --> 00:27:03.090
  • WE HAVE A ROLL-IN NUMBER 6.
  • 00:27:03.110 --> 00:27:06.060
  • THIS HAS BEEN SO AMAZING.
  • 00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:07.280
  • LET'S GO AND TAKE A LITTLE PEEK AT THE
  • 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.290
  • EPISODE ON BRONCO CHARLIE. WATCH THIS.
  • 00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:13.190
  • - ONE OF THE THINGS FROM HISTORY IS THERE'S OLD
  • 00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:16.000
  • RECRUITING POSTERS FROM THE PONY EXPRESS, AND ONE
  • 00:27:16.020 --> 00:27:18.090
  • OF MY FAVORITES SAYS WANTED, YOUNG, SKINNY,
  • 00:27:18.110 --> 00:27:20.230
  • WIRY FELLOWS, NOT OVER 18, MUST BE EXPERT RIDERS
  • 00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:24.050
  • WILLING TO RISK DEATH DAILY, ORPHANS PREFERRED,
  • 00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:27.020
  • $25 DOLLARS A WEEK.
  • 00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:29.100
  • BACK IN 1860 THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
  • 00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:32.130
  • BUT IT SAYS ORPHANS PREFERRED.
  • 00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:34.050
  • WHY DO YOU PREFER ORPHANS?
  • 00:27:34.070 --> 00:27:37.000
  • WELL, BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS,
  • 00:27:37.020 --> 00:27:39.140
  • AND WE DON'T WANT MOM OR DAD UPSET IF YOU
  • 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:40.270
  • DON'T MAKE IT BACK ALIVE.
  • 00:27:40.290 --> 00:27:42.130
  • - AND EVEN AT THAT, I MEAN THE FACT THEY SAID
  • 00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:44.050
  • YOUNG, SKINNY, WIRY FELLOWS.
  • 00:27:44.070 --> 00:27:46.280
  • WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
  • 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.060
  • WELL BECAUSE THE HORSE HAS GOT TO CARRY THE MAIL
  • 00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:49.270
  • AND YOU, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN THE HORSE OUT
  • 00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:51.290
  • OVER THAT 15, 20 MILES, SO THE AVERAGE WEIGHT OF
  • 00:27:52.010 --> 00:27:54.260
  • A PONY EXPRESS RIDER WAS BETWEEN 100 AND 125 POUNDS.
  • 00:27:54.280 --> 00:27:58.170
  • IT WOULD BE LIKE TODAY'S PROFESSIONAL JOCKEYS.
  • 00:27:58.190 --> 00:28:00.090
  • THESE WERE SMALL GUYS.
  • 00:28:00.110 --> 00:28:01.270
  • WE KNOW THEY WERE TOUGH GUYS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY
  • 00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:03.210
  • DID ALONG THE WAY IN FIGHTING OUTLAWS AND
  • 00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:05.180
  • FIGHTING INDIANS AND FIGHTING MOUNTAIN LIONS AND BEARS.
  • 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.130
  • THEY WERE TOUGH, TOUGH, TOUGH GUYS, BUT THEY ARE
  • 00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:10.270
  • TEENAGERS IN THE 120 TO 125 POUND RANGE.
  • 00:28:10.290 --> 00:28:13.190
  • IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:15.090
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:28:15.110 --> 00:28:19.250
  • - 125 POUND TOUGH GUY. I LIKE THAT.
  • 00:28:19.270 --> 00:28:23.230
  • OKAY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DAVE, JUST IN CASE
  • 00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:26.110
  • SOMEBODY JUST TUNED IN, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY
  • 00:28:26.130 --> 00:28:28.060
  • THROUGH, JUST TELL KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.060
  • A NEW SERIES RIGHT HERE ON TBN, AIRS EACH WEEK.
  • 00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:32.210
  • WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF GREAT STORIES.
  • 00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:34.200
  • - IT'S AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY AND THIS EPISODE
  • 00:28:34.220 --> 00:28:36.130
  • IS AMERICA'S HIDDEN HEROES.
  • 00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:38.160
  • SO WHAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON IS
  • 00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:40.210
  • WE TAKE STORIES LIKE BRONCO CHARLIE, THERE'S
  • 00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:42.150
  • ABOUT 22 OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE GO WHERE
  • 00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:45.010
  • THEY DID THEIR STUFF, AND YOU GET TO SEE THE STORY,
  • 00:28:45.030 --> 00:28:47.140
  • YOU GET TO SEE THE ARTIFACTS AROUND IT.
  • 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.070
  • THIS IS STUFF THAT WE USED TO TEACH IN HISTORY.
  • 00:28:49.090 --> 00:28:51.150
  • WE NO LONGER TEACH IT TODAY IN HISTORY.
  • 00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:53.100
  • AND IF WE DID, WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT
  • 00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:55.220
  • PERSPECTIVE ON SO MANY THINGS.
  • 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.190
  • - WHY ISN'T IT TAUGHT TODAY, DAVID?
  • 00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.230
  • - AS TIM MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE SO
  • 00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:01.220
  • OVER-SIMPLIFIED HISTORY DOWN TO REALLY
  • 00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.030
  • MAKE IT AGENDA DRIVEN.
  • 00:29:04.050 --> 00:29:06.060
  • WE WANT THIS TO BE EVIL, THIS TO BE GOOD, SO WE'RE
  • 00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:08.100
  • NOT GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THIS STUFF, AND WE PICK
  • 00:29:08.120 --> 00:29:10.070
  • AND CHOOSE OUR HISTORY, AND IT SHOULD BE ABOUT TRUTH.
  • 00:29:10.090 --> 00:29:13.040
  • IT SHOULD BE ABOUT TELLING THE TRUTH, THE
  • 00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:14.160
  • GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.
  • 00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:16.000
  • YOU SHOULD TELL ALL THE STORY.
  • 00:29:16.020 --> 00:29:17.130
  • I CAN LEARN FROM THE BAD AND THE UGLY AS MUCH AS I
  • 00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:19.130
  • CAN LEARN FROM THE GOOD, AND SO YOU PUT ALL
  • 00:29:19.150 --> 00:29:21.140
  • OF IT OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE NO LONGER ABOUT
  • 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.080
  • TRUTH, WE'RE ABOUT AGENDAS, AND THAT'S NOT
  • 00:29:23.100 --> 00:29:25.120
  • HEALTHY FOR THE COUNTRY.
  • 00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:27.000
  • - RIGHT. OKAY.
  • 00:29:27.020 --> 00:29:28.210
  • DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR. OBVIOUSLY SUPER FAMOUS.
  • 00:29:28.230 --> 00:29:31.260
  • WHY IS HE ONE OF THE HIDDEN HISTORY FOLK?
  • 00:29:31.280 --> 00:29:36.100
  • - I WOULD POINT OUT THAT I THINK THAT ONE AIRED
  • 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:38.120
  • LAST WEEK, SO IF PEOPLE MISSED IT, THEY CAN GET
  • 00:29:38.140 --> 00:29:40.100
  • ONLINE AND THEY CAN WATCH SOME OF THAT.
  • 00:29:40.120 --> 00:29:42.000
  • BUT HE'S ONE OF THOSE INCREDIBLE MILITARY
  • 00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:44.060
  • COMMANDERS THAT AS WE LOOK EVEN AT MODERN
  • 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:48.110
  • HISTORY BOOKS TODAY, WHEN WE COVER THINGS LIKE
  • 00:29:48.130 --> 00:29:51.250
  • WORLD WAR II, YOU DON'T LEARN DEPENDING ON THE
  • 00:29:51.270 --> 00:29:55.100
  • HISTORY BOOK, YOU DON'T LEARN ABOUT THE
  • 00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.250
  • COMMANDERS WHO WERE INVOLVED, ABOUT THE
  • 00:29:56.270 --> 00:29:58.180
  • THINGS THEY DID OR WHY THEY EVEN DID WHAT THEY DID.
  • 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.090
  • AND WITH A GUY LIKE MAC ARTHUR, HIS FAITH WAS A
  • 00:30:02.110 --> 00:30:04.090
  • PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART OF HIS LIFE, AND WE DON'T
  • 00:30:04.110 --> 00:30:06.280
  • KNOW THAT OR WHY HE WAS A PERSON OF CHARACTER AND
  • 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.170
  • INTEGRITY THAT HE WAS.
  • 00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:10.280
  • WHY WHEN HE SAID THAT HE LEFT THE PHILIPPINES BUT
  • 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.100
  • I'M GONNA RETURN, WHAT DROVE HIM OR MOTIVATED
  • 00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:15.200
  • HIM TO RETURN?
  • 00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:17.070
  • WELL, HE WAS GONNA KEEP HIS WORD.
  • 00:30:17.090 --> 00:30:18.220
  • THAT WAS PART OF WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
  • 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.080
  • AND FAITH WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THING AGAIN
  • 00:30:21.100 --> 00:30:24.040
  • ALL THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE.
  • 00:30:24.060 --> 00:30:25.220
  • WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY COOL PIECE FROM HIM.
  • 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.180
  • - DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR WE KNOW AS A SOLDIER.
  • 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.030
  • I MEAN HE'S A FIVE STAR GENERAL.
  • 00:30:30.050 --> 00:30:31.180
  • THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THOSE EVER IN AMERICAN
  • 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.160
  • HISTORY OUT OF THOUSANDS OF GENERALS.
  • 00:30:33.180 --> 00:30:35.060
  • ONLY FIVE STAR JUST A FEW TIMES, SO IT'S ONE OF
  • 00:30:35.080 --> 00:30:38.060
  • THOSE WE KNOW HIM FOR THAT BUT WE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:39.290
  • HIM FOR HIS FAITH OR FOR HIS FAMILY.
  • 00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:42.040
  • THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING HE WROTE THAT
  • 00:30:42.060 --> 00:30:43.210
  • IS NOW CALLED THE FATHER'S PRAYER.
  • 00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:45.230
  • AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:47.070
  • HE SAID...
  • 00:30:47.090 --> 00:30:48.170
  • [READING]
  • 00:30:48.190 --> 00:31:02.030
  • [READING]
  • 00:31:02.030 --> 00:31:14.060
  • [READING]
  • 00:31:14.060 --> 00:31:21.230
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL. WOW.
  • 00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:23.130
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:31:23.150 --> 00:31:26.100
  • LET'S TAKE A PEAK AT THE EPISODE ON DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR.
  • 00:31:26.120 --> 00:31:29.120
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:39.190
  • - WE'RE IN WASHINGTON DC AT THE WORLD WAR II
  • 00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:41.030
  • MEMORIAL, TALKING ABOUT DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR AT THE
  • 00:31:41.050 --> 00:31:43.070
  • END OF WORLD WAR I, AS HE GOES TO THE PHILIPPINES
  • 00:31:43.090 --> 00:31:45.160
  • AND HE'S REBUILDING THE STRENGTH OF THE
  • 00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:47.260
  • PHILIPPINES, REALLY HELPING THE MILITARY.
  • 00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:49.130
  • HE RETIRES AND THINKS I'M REALLY DONE
  • 00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:50.260
  • WITH MILITARY SERVICE.
  • 00:31:50.280 --> 00:31:52.250
  • I'VE HELPED THIS NATION, I'VE REBUILT THEIR
  • 00:31:52.270 --> 00:31:54.280
  • STRENGTH AND THEIR MILITARY, AND SO HE
  • 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.070
  • THINKS HE'S OUT OF THIS, BUT AS ESCALATION
  • 00:31:57.090 --> 00:31:59.150
  • INTENTIONS ARE HAPPENING ACROSS EUROPE AS HITLER
  • 00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:01.230
  • HAS COME TO POWER.
  • 00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:03.050
  • WAR IS NOW BREAKING OUT IN EUROPE.
  • 00:32:03.070 --> 00:32:04.210
  • THINGS ARE CHANGING IN AMERICA.
  • 00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.100
  • - YEAH, AND THEY SEE THAT CHANGE ALSO GOING
  • 00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:07.270
  • IN THE PACIFIC AREA.
  • 00:32:07.290 --> 00:32:09.050
  • WHAT THE JAPANESE ARE DOING, WHAT THEY'VE DONE
  • 00:32:09.070 --> 00:32:11.040
  • IN CHINA, KILLING LITERALLY MILLIONS IN CHINA.
  • 00:32:11.060 --> 00:32:13.210
  • THEY'RE MOVING THROUGH THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
  • 00:32:13.230 --> 00:32:16.010
  • AND AT THAT POINT, PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT
  • 00:32:16.030 --> 00:32:18.040
  • RECALLS DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR TO ACTIVE DUTY.
  • 00:32:18.060 --> 00:32:20.250
  • HE SAYS I WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE PHILIPPINES.
  • 00:32:20.270 --> 00:32:22.240
  • HE MAKES HIM THE COMMANDER OVER ALL THE
  • 00:32:22.260 --> 00:32:25.060
  • PHILIPPINES, ALL THE FAR EAST REGION.
  • 00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:27.140
  • AND AT THAT POINT WHEN HE RECALLED MAC ARTHUR TO
  • 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.150
  • DUTY, MAC ARTHUR WAS A TWO STAR GENERAL,
  • 00:32:29.170 --> 00:32:31.060
  • MAJOR GENERAL.
  • 00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:32.150
  • THE NEXT DAY ROOSEVELT MADE HIM A THREE STAR
  • 00:32:32.170 --> 00:32:34.210
  • GENERAL, LIEUTENANT GENERAL.
  • 00:32:34.230 --> 00:32:36.050
  • AND THEN BY THE END OF THAT MONTH
  • 00:32:36.070 --> 00:32:37.260
  • HAD MADE HIM A FOUR STAR GENERAL.
  • 00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:39.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:41.210
  • - SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT-- I MEAN, ISN'T HE
  • 00:32:41.230 --> 00:32:44.250
  • SUPER FAMOUS FOR THAT LINE "I SHALL RETURN".
  • 00:32:44.270 --> 00:32:48.080
  • I MEAN THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH AND ALL THAT KIND
  • 00:32:48.100 --> 00:32:50.240
  • OF STUFF IS REALLY KIND OF A DISMAL PERIOD THERE
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:53.260
  • IN BRIEFLY IN WORLD WAR II, THE PACIFIC,
  • 00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:56.180
  • AND THEN WE COME BACK.
  • 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.040
  • - BUT HE IS FAMOUS FOR THAT, BUT SAYING HE'S
  • 00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:01.190
  • FAMOUS WOULD DEPEND ON WHO YOU ASK BECAUSE IF
  • 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:04.040
  • YOU ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE 40 AND YOUNGER, I WOULD BET
  • 00:33:04.060 --> 00:33:07.100
  • ALMOST NONE OF THEM KNOW WHO DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR
  • 00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:09.080
  • WAS OR WHAT HE DID, WHAT HE CONTRIBUTED.
  • 00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:12.080
  • WHICH IS WHY STUFF LIKE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT
  • 00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:15.000
  • BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE A NAME WE
  • 00:33:15.020 --> 00:33:16.270
  • RECOGNIZE OR RECOGNIZE THE GUY WITH THE OLD
  • 00:33:16.290 --> 00:33:19.070
  • CORNCOB PIPE, RIGHT? THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT
  • 00:33:19.090 --> 00:33:21.000
  • HE WAS FAMOUS FOR, WE DON'T KNOW HIS STORY.
  • 00:33:21.020 --> 00:33:23.240
  • - BY THE WAY LET ME ADD THAT WHEN THE NEW
  • 00:33:23.260 --> 00:33:25.260
  • A.P. HISTORY STANDARDS CAME OUT,
  • 00:33:25.280 --> 00:33:27.120
  • NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR A.P. HISTORY,
  • 00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:29.020
  • KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THE BRIGHTEST KIDS
  • 00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:30.260
  • IN HISTORY, THIS IS THE LAST COURSE THEY TAKE
  • 00:33:30.280 --> 00:33:32.220
  • IN HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY, WHEN IT CAME TO WORLD WAR II,
  • 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.040
  • THERE WAS NO MENTION OF DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR
  • 00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:37.090
  • ANYWHERE IN THE STANDARDS, AND THIS IS
  • 00:33:37.110 --> 00:33:39.150
  • FOR YOUR HISTORY KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL THE NAME
  • 00:33:39.170 --> 00:33:42.020
  • DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR DOES NOT EVEN APPEAR
  • 00:33:42.040 --> 00:33:43.260
  • IN THE STANDARDS IN A.P.
  • 00:33:43.280 --> 00:33:45.100
  • - AND WITH THAT, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF
  • 00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:46.220
  • EISENHOWER OR PATTON OR NIMITZ. THERE WASN'T EVEN
  • 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.050
  • A MENTION OF HITLER WHICH SEEMS LIKE A PROBLEM.
  • 00:33:49.070 --> 00:33:51.040
  • - OR D-DAY OR THE HOLOCAUST.
  • 00:33:51.060 --> 00:33:52.260
  • - SO THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HISTORY HAS
  • 00:33:52.280 --> 00:33:55.060
  • GONE THE WRONG DIRECTION.
  • 00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:56.130
  • WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY,
  • 00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:58.160
  • IT DIDN'T USED TO BE HIDDEN.
  • 00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:00.090
  • IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE HIDDEN, AND THESE
  • 00:34:00.110 --> 00:34:02.240
  • STORIES JUST AREN'T KNOWN AND BEING TOLD.
  • 00:34:02.260 --> 00:34:04.280
  • - I WANT TO ASK TOM, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN
  • 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.150
  • THE KIND OF THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS.
  • 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.290
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIDDEN HISTORY, THE
  • 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:14.020
  • HIDDEN HEROES, AND THIS IS SEASON TWO.
  • 00:34:14.040 --> 00:34:16.050
  • SEASON ONE WE KIND OF TOOK ALL OF THE NATIONAL
  • 00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:20.200
  • HOLIDAYS AND WE DID THE HIDDEN HISTORY
  • 00:34:20.220 --> 00:34:23.200
  • OF THE NATIONAL HOLIDAY. WHERE DID THIS DISCUSSION
  • 00:34:23.220 --> 00:34:26.020
  • START TO DO THE HIDDEN HEROES? WHERE DID THIS HAPPEN?
  • 00:34:26.040 --> 00:34:30.030
  • - STARTING DAVID, WE SAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:32.260
  • BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.250
  • IS THAT WHENEVER THE BARTONS DO A SHOW, OUR
  • 00:34:34.270 --> 00:34:37.040
  • RATINGS ARE GREAT, SO I WAS WATCHING THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:34:37.060 --> 00:34:39.270
  • WHAT THESE GUYS TALK ABOUT IS INTERESTING TO
  • 00:34:39.290 --> 00:34:42.120
  • PEOPLE. AND IT LIKE WAIT A MINUTE, HOW DID WE
  • 00:34:42.140 --> 00:34:44.260
  • MISS ALL THIS MATERIAL?
  • 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.030
  • SO IN TALKING WITH THEM, THEY ARE LITERALLY A
  • 00:34:47.050 --> 00:34:49.130
  • TREASURE, A NATIONAL TREASURE AS YOU AND I
  • 00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:51.100
  • HAVE DISCUSSED BECAUSE NOT ONLY THE ARCHIVES AND
  • 00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:54.050
  • THINGS THAT THEY HAVE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE
  • 00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:56.100
  • RELEVANCE OF MAKING HISTORY IMPORTANT TO US
  • 00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:59.160
  • AS BELIEVERS, THE FOUNDATION WE HAVE IN
  • 00:34:59.180 --> 00:35:01.260
  • THIS COUNTRY, IT NOT ONLY NEEDS TO BE CELEBRATED,
  • 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.210
  • IT NEEDS TO BE SHOUTED ABOUT.
  • 00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:06.200
  • AND IT'S TIME THAT WE BEGIN TO HEAR THESE STORIES.
  • 00:35:06.220 --> 00:35:08.150
  • SO THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HERE WE ARE.
  • 00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:10.180
  • - GOT IT. OKAY.
  • 00:35:10.200 --> 00:35:12.110
  • SO WE'VE GOT FRANCIS SCOTT KEY AND PHILLIS
  • 00:35:12.130 --> 00:35:16.270
  • WHEATLEY THAT WE NEED TO GET INTO, BUT I WANT TO
  • 00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:18.220
  • THROW YOU A BIT OF A CURVE BALL.
  • 00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:22.030
  • I'D THROW IT WITH THIS, BUT THIS IS SUPER HEAVY.
  • 00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.110
  • - THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO MAKE THAT CURVE
  • 00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:25.150
  • BUT YOU CAN TRY.
  • 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.000
  • - THIS IS A BRITISH-- WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:35:27.020 --> 00:35:30.030
  • - CANNONBALL. THE BATTLE OF BENNINGTON 1777.
  • 00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:33.040
  • - AND IT WEIGHS APPROXIMATELY WHAT? SEVEN POUNDS?
  • 00:35:33.060 --> 00:35:36.080
  • - ABOUT 12 POUNDS.
  • 00:35:36.100 --> 00:35:37.230
  • - TWELVE POUNDS, WOW. OKAY.
  • 00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:39.290
  • WE DID A TV SHOW TOGETHER, DAVE, WAY BACK.
  • 00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:44.190
  • I'M TALKING, WE'RE TALKING MID 2.000S,
  • 00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:48.140
  • EARLY 2.000S MAYBE.
  • 00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:50.180
  • AND THERE WAS A AMERICAN HISTORY FACT ABOUT ONE OF
  • 00:35:50.200 --> 00:35:59.010
  • THE WORDS THAT DOESN'T EVER GET TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:02.000
  • ANYWHERE ANY TIME. IT'S A WORD CALLED LYNCHING.
  • 00:36:02.020 --> 00:36:05.120
  • WOULD YOU EXPLAIN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
  • 00:36:05.140 --> 00:36:09.000
  • EXPLAINED SOME OF THAT TO ME, I WALKED AWAY
  • 00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:11.280
  • FROM THAT CHANGED.
  • 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.000
  • I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW SOMETHING
  • 00:36:14.020 --> 00:36:18.000
  • THAT IMPORTANT. CAN YOU--
  • 00:36:18.020 --> 00:36:20.010
  • - WELL, THE STORY HAD BEEN SO CHANGED.
  • 00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:21.180
  • - I THINK IT WAS SO FUN.
  • 00:36:21.200 --> 00:36:23.000
  • I WAS THERE WHEN WE WERE PRODUCING THIS SERIES,
  • 00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:25.020
  • AND I ALMOST CALLED THE SERIES "YOU'RE KIDDING
  • 00:36:25.040 --> 00:36:27.290
  • ME" BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID THAT ABOUT
  • 00:36:28.010 --> 00:36:31.000
  • EVERY TEN LINES TO DAVID. YOU'RE KIDDING ME!
  • 00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:34.110
  • - KIND OF SET THE STAGE OF WHAT PERIOD OF TIME
  • 00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:36.240
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING
  • 00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:39.040
  • ABOUT. I EVEN ASKED YOU ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY.
  • 00:36:39.060 --> 00:36:41.050
  • - WHAT HAPPENS IS COMING INTO THE CIVIL WAR, YOU
  • 00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:44.060
  • HAVE A HUGE CONFLICT BETWEEN ABOLITIONISTS AND
  • 00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:46.170
  • PRO-SLAVERY FOLKS, SO THAT POLARIZES THE NATION.
  • 00:36:46.190 --> 00:36:50.090
  • THERE'S NO MIDDLE GROUND, NO COMPROMISE.
  • 00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:52.030
  • IT LEADS TO A CIVIL WAR.
  • 00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:54.050
  • YOU CAN SAY IT'S ABOUT OTHER ECONOMIC THINGS,
  • 00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:56.030
  • BUT AT ITS BASE IT CAUSED A CIVIL WAR.
  • 00:36:56.050 --> 00:36:58.090
  • - WHAT YEAR EXACTLY THE CIVIL WAR START?
  • 00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:00.050
  • - IT STARTED IN 1861, WENT THROUGH 1865.
  • 00:37:00.070 --> 00:37:03.070
  • SO IN 1865 THROUGH 1870 AFTER THE CIVIL WAR IS
  • 00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:06.240
  • OVER, YOU HAVE THREE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS
  • 00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:09.030
  • ADDED TO SECURE, SAY NO MORE SLAVERY, ALL FORMER
  • 00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:12.090
  • SLAVES HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS WITH EVERYONE ELSE,
  • 00:37:12.110 --> 00:37:14.170
  • INCLUDING THEIR STATES, AND ALL FORMER SLAVES
  • 00:37:14.190 --> 00:37:16.290
  • YOU CAN VOTE REGARDLESS OF RACE.
  • 00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:18.240
  • SO IT GUARANTEES ALL THESE CIVIL RIGHTS.
  • 00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:21.050
  • SO 13, 14, 15TH AMENDMENT.
  • 00:37:21.070 --> 00:37:22.260
  • THEN IN THE PERIOD FROM 1870, 1876, ALL SORTS OF
  • 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.180
  • CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS ARE PASSED MAKING EQUALITY.
  • 00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:30.110
  • WE'D ALREADY DONE THAT IN CIVIL WAR, BLACKS AND
  • 00:37:30.130 --> 00:37:32.100
  • WHITES GET PAID EQUAL, CIVIL WAR AND EQUAL
  • 00:37:32.120 --> 00:37:34.230
  • JUSTICE IN THE COURTS, ETC, AND NOW YOU'RE
  • 00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:37.010
  • GIVING ALL THESE ADDITIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS,
  • 00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:39.090
  • ABOUT 23 CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS.
  • 00:37:39.110 --> 00:37:41.050
  • SO WHAT HAPPENS IS AT THE END OF RECONSTRUCTION,
  • 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:44.040
  • 1876 THERE'S A LOT OF PUSH BACK TO KEEP
  • 00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:46.150
  • BLACKS FROM PROGRESSING.
  • 00:37:46.170 --> 00:37:48.040
  • WHAT ARE CALLED JIM CROW LAWS, PARTICULARLY WENT
  • 00:37:48.060 --> 00:37:50.040
  • THROUGH SOUTHERN STATES ABOUT ELEVEN DIFFERENT
  • 00:37:50.060 --> 00:37:51.280
  • WAYS TO HOLD BLACKS BACK.
  • 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.020
  • AND ONE OF THE WAYS WAS VIOLENT INTIMIDATION, AND
  • 00:37:54.040 --> 00:37:56.150
  • THE MOST VIOLENT FORM OF INTIMIDATION WAS PUBLIC
  • 00:37:56.170 --> 00:37:58.170
  • LYNCHINGS.
  • 00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.130
  • MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SEES THAT PERSON LYNCHED RIGHT
  • 00:38:00.150 --> 00:38:03.240
  • THERE TO THE TREE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
  • 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.220
  • SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE ISIS EXECUTION STUFF TO
  • 00:38:05.240 --> 00:38:08.130
  • INTIMIDATE PEOPLE.
  • 00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:10.170
  • AND SO BETWEEN 1882 AND 1962, THERE'S ABOUT 4800
  • 00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:13.220
  • LYNCHINGS IN AMERICA.
  • 00:38:13.240 --> 00:38:16.070
  • OF THOSE LYNCHINGS, 1300 ROUGHLY WERE OF
  • 00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:20.120
  • WHITE GUYS, AND 3500 WERE OF BLACK FOLK.
  • 00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:22.270
  • SO ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR LYNCHINGS WAS OF A WHITE
  • 00:38:22.290 --> 00:38:26.090
  • PERSON WHO WAS WORKING TO HELP BLACK FOLK.
  • 00:38:26.110 --> 00:38:29.060
  • I BELIEVE ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
  • 00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:31.260
  • WE HEAR TODAY THAT LYNCHING IS ALL ABOUT ATTACKING BLACK
  • 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.070
  • FOLKS.
  • 00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:36.040
  • AND YES, THEY WERE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LYNCHED,
  • 00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:38.070
  • BUT IT WAS ABOUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE EQUAL AND HELP
  • 00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:40.070
  • MAKE CIVIL RIGHTS PART OF EQUALITY AND REALIZE WHAT
  • 00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:45.240
  • MARTIN LUTHER KING TALKED ABOUT, THE PROMISE AND THE
  • 00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:48.130
  • DECLARATION, ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
  • 00:38:48.150 --> 00:38:50.030
  • IF YOU BELIEVED THAT, YOU MIGHT GET LYNCHED.
  • 00:38:50.050 --> 00:38:52.000
  • SO THEY LYNCHED WHITE PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEY LYNCHED BLACK
  • 00:38:52.020 --> 00:38:54.100
  • PEOPLE TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE TO SAY, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO
  • 00:38:54.120 --> 00:38:56.080
  • DOWN THIS PATH BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN
  • 00:38:56.100 --> 00:38:57.210
  • TO YOU.
  • 00:38:57.230 --> 00:38:59.090
  • - SO IF YOU WERE A WHITE PERSON THAT WAS BASICALLY
  • 00:38:59.110 --> 00:39:03.130
  • FOLLOWING THE LAW AND BASICALLY FOLLOWING
  • 00:39:03.150 --> 00:39:06.110
  • CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
  • 00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:08.110
  • - YES.
  • 00:39:08.130 --> 00:39:10.040
  • - YOU WERE IN DANGER AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME?
  • 00:39:10.060 --> 00:39:11.290
  • - WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LYNCHING CARD FROM 1868 OF
  • 00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:13.150
  • 63 FACES.
  • 00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:15.170
  • IT HAS THE PICTURES AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL 63 AND
  • 00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:18.090
  • THEIR NAME ON THE BACK.
  • 00:39:18.110 --> 00:39:20.020
  • THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT THE CLAN WANTS TAKEN CARE OF.
  • 00:39:20.040 --> 00:39:22.090
  • NOW, ALL 63 OF THEM ARE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH
  • 00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:26.110
  • CAROLINA LEGISLATURE.
  • 00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:28.240
  • 50 OF THEM ARE BLACK, AND 13 OF THEM ARE WHITE.
  • 00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:31.220
  • THEY'RE ALL REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR WORKING FOR EQUAL
  • 00:39:31.240 --> 00:39:34.100
  • RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE, AND THESE ARE THE 63 YOU NEED TO
  • 00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:37.140
  • TAKE OUT, AND IT'S ABOUT THAT SAME RATIO OF 3 TO 1.
  • 00:39:37.160 --> 00:39:40.100
  • THERE WERE THREE TIMES AS MANY BLACK REPUBLICAN
  • 00:39:40.120 --> 00:39:42.220
  • LEGISLATORS AS THERE WERE WHITE REPUBLICAN
  • 00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:44.230
  • LEGISLATORS, BUT THEY ALL NEED TO BE GONE.
  • 00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.150
  • - WAIT, SO THEY WERE ALL REPUBLICANS ON THAT LIST?
  • 00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:48.120
  • - ALL REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:39:48.140 --> 00:39:50.030
  • ALL 63 FACES WERE OF REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS IN
  • 00:39:50.050 --> 00:39:52.000
  • SOUTH CAROLINA THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT BY THE CLAN.
  • 00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:54.180
  • - SO IN THAT 4800 THAT ARE BEING LYNCHED, HOW MANY OF
  • 00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:57.290
  • THOSE WERE REPUBLICANS?
  • 00:39:58.010 --> 00:39:59.150
  • - VIRTUALLY ALL.
  • 00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:01.060
  • THE RECORD INDICATE THAT THE HEARINGS IN CONGRESS, THEY
  • 00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:03.090
  • HAD HEARINGS IN CONGRESS ON THIS.
  • 00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:04.290
  • VIRTUALLY ALL WERE REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:06.190
  • - WHO WAS LYNCHING?
  • 00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:08.100
  • - WELL, WHEN THE CLAN WOW STARTED IN 1866, 1867, THERE
  • 00:40:08.120 --> 00:40:11.130
  • WERE HEARINGS IN CONGRESS.
  • 00:40:11.150 --> 00:40:13.220
  • WE ACTUALLY OWN THE 13 VOLUME SET OF THE
  • 00:40:13.240 --> 00:40:15.150
  • HEARINGS IN CONGRESS.
  • 00:40:15.170 --> 00:40:17.110
  • THE CLAN SAID THAT THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED TO STOP AND TAKE
  • 00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:20.210
  • BACK THE POWER OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE NEXT
  • 00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.090
  • ELECTION.
  • 00:40:22.110 --> 00:40:24.050
  • SO THEIR STATED PURPOSE WAS TO STOP THE REPUBLICANS
  • 00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:26.100
  • BECAUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE IN THEIR PLATFORM THAT WE'RE
  • 00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:28.210
  • GOING TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS.
  • 00:40:28.230 --> 00:40:30.110
  • ABRAHAM LINCOLN WANTED EQUAL RIGHTS.
  • 00:40:30.130 --> 00:40:31.270
  • FOUGHT SLAVERY.
  • 00:40:31.290 --> 00:40:33.140
  • THE 13TH, 14TH, AND 15TH AMENDMENTS WERE PASSED BY
  • 00:40:33.160 --> 00:40:35.090
  • THE REPUBLICANS AND THE U.S.
  • 00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:36.240
  • CONGRESS.
  • 00:40:36.260 --> 00:40:38.170
  • WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE SOUTH, THE FIRST 137 BLACK
  • 00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:41.000
  • FOLKS ELECTED IN LOUISIANA WERE REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:40:41.020 --> 00:40:44.190
  • THE FIRST 109 BLACKS ELECTED IN SOUTH CAROLINA WERE
  • 00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:46.270
  • ALL REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:48.190
  • FIRST 41 BLACKS ELECTED HERE IN TEXAS WERE ALL
  • 00:40:48.210 --> 00:40:50.110
  • REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:52.040
  • SO THE CLAN SAYS, WE HAVE GOT TO STOP REPUBLICANS IN
  • 00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:54.190
  • THE NEXT ELECTION.
  • 00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:56.090
  • CLAN SAID THAT THEY WERE ORGANIZED NOT TO STOP
  • 00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.110
  • BLACKS, BUT TO STOP REPUBLICANS BECAUSE AT THAT
  • 00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:00.260
  • POINT IN TIME, VIRTUALLY ALL BLACKS WERE REPUBLICANS.
  • 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.180
  • SO THAT'S THE STORY OF LYNCHING NO ONE HEARS TODAY.
  • 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.220
  • - THEIR END GOAL CERTAINLY WAS TO STOP THE BLACKS, BUT
  • 00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:08.060
  • WHO'S PROMOTING THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE BLACKS?
  • 00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:11.010
  • IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
  • 00:41:11.030 --> 00:41:12.220
  • SO THE CLAN'S IDEA WAS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
  • 00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:14.110
  • MAINTAIN OUR RACIST POSITION AND SUPPRESS BLACK, WELL,
  • 00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:17.280
  • THEN WE HAVE TO STOP THE REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THEY'RE
  • 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.110
  • THE ONES ADVOCATING FOR THE RIGHTS OF BLACKS, WHICH IS
  • 00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:22.110
  • WHERE ALL THE LYNCHINGS COME IN.
  • 00:41:22.130 --> 00:41:24.010
  • - OKAY, YOU REALIZE THAT YOU JUST TOLD VIRTUALLY
  • 00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:28.170
  • 180 DEGREE STORY OF WHAT AMERICAN POLITICS, IN
  • 00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:34.150
  • ESSENCE, FEELS LIKE TODAY.
  • 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:37.010
  • WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED?
  • 00:41:37.030 --> 00:41:41.180
  • - AGAIN, TRUTH IS THE OBJECTIVE FOR HISTORY AND
  • 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:44.260
  • HISTORIANS, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL
  • 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.230
  • DOCUMENTS, AND YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL HEARINGS, AND YOU
  • 00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:50.200
  • HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF THE CLAN AND OF THE VICTIMS, AND
  • 00:41:50.220 --> 00:41:53.190
  • YOU HAVE THE CARD THE CLAN PUTS OUT, I MEAN --
  • 00:41:53.210 --> 00:41:56.260
  • - YOU HAVE EVIDENCE.
  • 00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.160
  • - WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY?
  • 00:41:58.180 --> 00:42:00.050
  • THE EVIDENCE IS THERE.
  • 00:42:00.070 --> 00:42:01.230
  • - OKAY, SO LET ME JUST EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU.
  • 00:42:01.250 --> 00:42:03.250
  • DAVID BARTON KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS
  • 00:42:03.270 --> 00:42:06.170
  • ENTIRE SERIES, SEASON ONE AND SEASON TWO, IS VITAL.
  • 00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:13.090
  • YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE HEARING.
  • 00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:15.210
  • I HAVE A MENTAL PICTURE OF SOMEBODY SITTING ON A COUCH
  • 00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:20.150
  • RIGHT NOW WATCHING THIS GOING, WHAT THE HECK DID
  • 00:42:20.170 --> 00:42:23.120
  • DAVE JUST SAY?
  • 00:42:23.140 --> 00:42:25.100
  • - YOU SHOULD HAVE NAMED YOUR SERIES "WHAT THE HECK?"
  • 00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:27.010
  • - I KNOW.
  • 00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:28.210
  • - LITERALLY, YOU JUST TOLD A STORY THAT'S, DAVE, KIND
  • 00:42:28.230 --> 00:42:33.080
  • OF HARD TO BELIEVE, OKAY?
  • 00:42:33.100 --> 00:42:36.070
  • BUT I'VE SEEN THOSE CARDS IN YOUR OFFICE MYSELF.
  • 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.240
  • I'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS EVIDENCE, BUT THAT IS WHAT
  • 00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:43.040
  • WAS HAPPENING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
  • 00:42:43.060 --> 00:42:45.280
  • - CAN I DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK?
  • 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.170
  • FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO GO BACK AND FACT CHECK AND
  • 00:42:48.190 --> 00:42:51.060
  • LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS, PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE
  • 00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:53.070
  • TBN APP.
  • 00:42:53.090 --> 00:42:55.180
  • THE SERIES HAS ALREADY BEEN PLAYING.
  • 00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:57.220
  • THE SHOWS WILL BE PLAYING.
  • 00:42:57.240 --> 00:42:59.150
  • WITHIN 48 HOURS AFTER IT AIRS ON THE NETWORK, YOU CAN
  • 00:42:59.170 --> 00:43:01.140
  • GO TO THE TBN APP.
  • 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:03.090
  • YOU CAN PUT IN WALL BUILDER OR DAVID BARTON.
  • 00:43:03.110 --> 00:43:06.070
  • IT WILL COME UP, AND YOU CAN WATCH THESE EPISODES, TALK
  • 00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:09.000
  • ABOUT THEM.
  • 00:43:09.020 --> 00:43:10.130
  • YOU CAN EVEN SEND THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE.
  • 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:11.280
  • SO PLEASE, DOWNLOAD THE APP AND USE IT.
  • 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.140
  • - YEAH, YOU CAN GET IT ON YOUR PHONE OR YOUR LAPTOP
  • 00:43:13.160 --> 00:43:15.200
  • AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
  • 00:43:15.220 --> 00:43:17.080
  • - AND ONE OF THE REASONS EVEN TELLING SOME OF THESE
  • 00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:19.050
  • STORIES BECOME SO SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE EVEN
  • 00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:21.160
  • THE WAY WE LOOK AT AMERICAN, KIND OF THE BIRTH OF
  • 00:43:21.180 --> 00:43:24.160
  • AMERICA, IF YOU GO BACK TO 1776, THE AMERICAN
  • 00:43:24.180 --> 00:43:25.260
  • REVOLUTION.
  • 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.180
  • HERE'S WHERE IT GETS CRAZY BECAUSE HISTORY BOOKS TODAY
  • 00:43:27.200 --> 00:43:30.170
  • DEPICT AMERICA AS BEING A WHITE REVOLUTION WHERE WHITE
  • 00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:33.180
  • AMERICANS FOUGHT THE WHITE BRITISH.
  • 00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:35.230
  • LET ME JUST BLOW SOMEBODY'S MIND FOR A SECOND.
  • 00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:37.260
  • WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO DIED IN THE BIRTH OF THE
  • 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:41.090
  • AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
  • 00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:43.070
  • WHO'S DEATH STARTED THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION?
  • 00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:44.220
  • THAT'S CRISPUS ATTUCKS.
  • 00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:46.100
  • CRISPUS ATTUCKS WAS A BLACK MAN.
  • 00:43:46.120 --> 00:43:49.030
  • HE WAS A MAN WHO ESCAPED FROM SLAVERY, WENT TO AN
  • 00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:51.000
  • ANTI-SLAVERY COLONY WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO LIVE IN
  • 00:43:51.020 --> 00:43:53.180
  • MASSACHUSETTS, AND THAT'S WHERE HAD YOU JOHN ADAMS AND
  • 00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:56.020
  • SAMUEL ADAMS AND JOHN HANCOCK.
  • 00:43:56.040 --> 00:43:58.110
  • AND SO THE SONS OF LIBERTY.
  • 00:43:58.130 --> 00:44:00.110
  • SO HERE THERE AT THE BOSTON MASSACRE.
  • 00:44:00.130 --> 00:44:02.100
  • HE'S THE FIRST ONE KILLED IN BOSTON MASSACRE.
  • 00:44:02.120 --> 00:44:04.050
  • THIS IS WHAT SETS OFF THE BEGINNING OF THE AMERICAN
  • 00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:05.240
  • REVOLUTION.
  • 00:44:05.260 --> 00:44:07.200
  • HOW DOES THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION COME TO AN END?
  • 00:44:07.220 --> 00:44:09.210
  • ACTUALLY, THE LAST MAJOR BATTLE IS THE BATTLE OF
  • 00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:12.130
  • YORKTOWN WHICH IS WHERE WE DEFEAT LORD CORNWALLIS.
  • 00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:14.290
  • AFTER THIS, ITS BIT I SHALL HAVE THOROUGHLY BEEN
  • 00:44:15.010 --> 00:44:17.050
  • TROUNCED, AND NOW IT'S JUST A PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION TO
  • 00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:19.090
  • FIGURE OUT THE PEACE TREATY.
  • 00:44:19.110 --> 00:44:21.050
  • HOW DID WE BOTTLE UP CORNWALLIS?
  • 00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:22.250
  • WELL, THERE WAS A MAN WHOSE NAME WAS JAMES ARMISTEAD.
  • 00:44:22.270 --> 00:44:25.190
  • JAMES ARMISTEAD WOW THE FIRST DOUBLE SPY
  • 00:44:25.210 --> 00:44:28.130
  • IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:44:28.150 --> 00:44:30.060
  • HE WAS A BLACK MAN WHO BECAME FRIENDS WITH MARQUIS
  • 00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:32.020
  • LAFAYETTE WHO WAS A FRENCH MAJOR GENERAL, CAME TO
  • 00:44:32.040 --> 00:44:33.250
  • AMERICA, AND MARQUIS, VERY ANTI-SLAVERY AT THE TIME.
  • 00:44:33.270 --> 00:44:37.000
  • JAMES ARMISTEAD WOW A SLAVE AT THE TIME, BUT HE WAS ONE
  • 00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:39.210
  • OF THE SLAVES WHO WAS FIGHTING AND WANTING TO GET
  • 00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:41.140
  • FREE BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO GET GIVE HIS SERVICE
  • 00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:43.110
  • TO THE NATION.
  • 00:44:43.130 --> 00:44:44.270
  • HE AND LAYFAYETTE BEGAN TALKING, AND THEY SAID,
  • 00:44:44.290 --> 00:44:46.170
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:44:46.190 --> 00:44:48.060
  • WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEN, ENOUGH SUPPLIES, OR ENOUGH
  • 00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:50.180
  • INTELLIGENCE TO DEFEAT THE BRITISH.
  • 00:44:50.200 --> 00:44:52.100
  • WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED UNLESS WE CAN
  • 00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:54.110
  • CHANGE SOMETHING.
  • 00:44:54.130 --> 00:44:55.270
  • SO THEY COME UP WITH IN IDEA THAT JAMES WILL PRETEND TO
  • 00:44:55.290 --> 00:44:58.150
  • BE AN ESCAPED SLAVE AND GO TO THE BRITISH CAMP SEEKING
  • 00:44:58.170 --> 00:45:01.140
  • REFUGE FROM THE BRITISH, AND HE'LL JUST LISTEN TO ALL OF
  • 00:45:01.160 --> 00:45:04.060
  • THEIR PLANS AND SEND THE REPORTS BACK.
  • 00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:06.090
  • - OH, MY GOODNESS.
  • 00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:07.290
  • - HE GOES INTO THE BRITISH CAMP.
  • 00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:09.160
  • HE SPIES IN THE BRITISH CAMP.
  • 00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:10.290
  • ACTUALLY, WHILE HE'S THERE, HE'S SERVING BECAUSE HE
  • 00:45:11.010 --> 00:45:12.090
  • WANTS TO BE WELL RECEIVED.
  • 00:45:12.110 --> 00:45:13.190
  • HE STARTS SERVING IN THE BRITISH CAMP.
  • 00:45:13.210 --> 00:45:15.160
  • THE BRITISH OFFICERS SEE HIM SERVING AND THINK, WELL, A
  • 00:45:15.180 --> 00:45:17.050
  • GUY THAT SERVES THAT WELL SHOULDN'T BE SERVING
  • 00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:19.100
  • THE COMMON TROOP.
  • 00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:20.290
  • LET'S BRING HIM TO THE OFFICER'S TENT.
  • 00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:23.250
  • SO HE STARTED SERVING IN THE OFFICER'S TENT.
  • 00:45:23.270 --> 00:45:25.220
  • HE WAS MADE THE PERSONAL ASSISTANT OF BENEDICT ARNOLD
  • 00:45:25.240 --> 00:45:27.200
  • WHO WAS THE FAMOUS AMERICAN TRAITOR, OKAY?
  • 00:45:27.220 --> 00:45:31.080
  • - SO EVERY DAY HE'S HEARING THE GENERALS TALK, AND GUESS
  • 00:45:31.100 --> 00:45:35.180
  • WHAT HE GIVES TO GEORGE WASHINGTON AND LAYFAYETTE
  • 00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:38.060
  • EVERY NIGHT? WHAT THE BRITISH ARE DOING.
  • 00:45:38.080 --> 00:45:40.240
  • - HE IS THE GUY WHO IS REPORTED FOR BEING
  • 00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:43.180
  • RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING GEORGE WASHINGTON THE
  • 00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:45.130
  • INFORMATION THAT LED TO THE DEFEAT OF CORNWALLIS.
  • 00:45:45.150 --> 00:45:48.190
  • THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION STARTED BECAUSE OF THE DEATH
  • 00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:50.280
  • OF A BLACK MAN AND ARGUABLY ENDED BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.110
  • INTELLIGENCE OF A BLACK MAN.
  • 00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:55.040
  • - AND ONE MORE LITTLE CAVEAT TO PUT IN.
  • 00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:56.220
  • NOT ONLY IS HE GETTING GOOD INFORMATION
  • 00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:58.100
  • BACK TO WASHINGTON.
  • 00:45:58.120 --> 00:45:59.290
  • BRITISH COMMANDER CORNWALLIS GOES TO JAMES AND SAYS,
  • 00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:01.220
  • JAMES, I KNOW YOU HATE THE AMERICANS, BUT WE
  • 00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:03.170
  • REALLY NEED HELP.
  • 00:46:03.190 --> 00:46:05.190
  • WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SPY ON THE AMERICANS FOR US AND
  • 00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:07.210
  • GIVE US THE INFORMATION?
  • 00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:09.220
  • SO HE FEEDS BAD INFORMATION TO THE BRITISH AND HE FEEDS
  • 00:46:09.240 --> 00:46:12.110
  • GOOD INFORMATION TO THE AMERICANS.
  • 00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:14.000
  • WE GET HIM TRAPPED OUT THERE, GET
  • 00:46:14.020 --> 00:46:16.070
  • CORNWALLIS TRAPPED.
  • 00:46:16.090 --> 00:46:18.030
  • - HE'S THE FIRST DOUBLE SPY IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:46:18.050 --> 00:46:19.250
  • ALSO, HE THEN DOES GET HIS FREEDOM.
  • 00:46:19.270 --> 00:46:22.060
  • LAYFAYETTE ADOPTS HIM, SO HE BECOMES JAMES ARMISTEAD
  • 00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:26.020
  • LAYFAYETTE, ADOPTION REALLY JUST IN NAME AND
  • 00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:29.120
  • LAYFAYETTE HELPS SUPPORT HIM FINANCIALLY.
  • 00:46:29.140 --> 00:46:31.180
  • BUT REALLY, AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING STORY, BUT THE
  • 00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:33.200
  • REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
  • 00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:35.270
  • TRUE STORY OF AMERICA, IT IS THE STORY NOT ALL
  • 00:46:35.290 --> 00:46:39.010
  • THAT DIFFERENT FROM EVEN A BIBLE STORY.
  • 00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:41.050
  • IT'S A STORY OF VERY IMPERFECT PEOPLE, AND YET
  • 00:46:41.070 --> 00:46:44.000
  • GOD IS USING SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO MANY PLACES.
  • 00:46:44.020 --> 00:46:47.290
  • AMERICA'S STORY IS NOT JUST A WHITE PERSON'S STORY.
  • 00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:51.140
  • - LOOK, THE FIRST BLACK ELECTED OFFICE IN AMERICA
  • 00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:54.140
  • WAS 1768 IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
  • 00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:56.160
  • HE SERVED FOR THE NEXT NEARLY 40 YEARS,
  • 00:46:56.180 --> 00:46:59.170
  • WAS ELECTED IN NINE DIFFERENT POLITICAL POSITIONS.
  • 00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:01.200
  • WE NEVER HEAR OF WENTWORTH CHESWELL.
  • 00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:03.190
  • THE FIRST SEAL TEAM MISSION, IF YOU WILL, A BLACK PATRIOT
  • 00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:06.050
  • JACK SISSON WAS THE HERO OF THAT SEAL
  • 00:47:06.070 --> 00:47:08.010
  • TEAM MISSION IN 1778.
  • 00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:09.170
  • I MEAN, I TAKE YOU THROUGH ALL SORTS OF BLACK HEROES
  • 00:47:09.190 --> 00:47:11.260
  • FROM THE REVOLUTION.
  • 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.080
  • WE DON'T GET THIS TODAY.
  • 00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:14.260
  • - AND IT'S BECAUSE AMERICA ALWAYS HAD ALL KINDS OF
  • 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.090
  • DIVERSITY IN THE NATION.
  • 00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:19.010
  • CERTAINLY WE WERE PRIMARILY A WHITE NATION.
  • 00:47:19.030 --> 00:47:20.260
  • THAT'S OBVIOUS, WE CAN LOOK AND KNOW IT'S TRUE, BUT THIS
  • 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.140
  • AGAIN IS WHERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW SO LITTLE HISTORY,
  • 00:47:24.160 --> 00:47:27.170
  • WE'VE LOST SO MANY THINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE DON'T
  • 00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:31.160
  • KNOW HOW MANY HEROES OR HEROINES, IF YOU WILL, RIGHT?
  • 00:47:31.180 --> 00:47:34.200
  • THE MEN AND THE WOMEN, THE CHILDREN, THE
  • 00:47:34.220 --> 00:47:36.140
  • BOYS, THE GIRLS.
  • 00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:38.030
  • OUR STORY, ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY FILLED WITH SIN
  • 00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:42.080
  • MANY MOMENTS IN OUR HISTORY, IT STILL IS A STORY OF
  • 00:47:42.100 --> 00:47:45.000
  • GOD USING PEOPLE, AN AMAZING STORY OF REDEMPTION
  • 00:47:45.020 --> 00:47:48.000
  • OF GOD TAKING BROKENNESS AND DOING
  • 00:47:48.020 --> 00:47:50.150
  • SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.
  • 00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:52.040
  • - THAT'S RIGHT, I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:47:52.060 --> 00:47:53.120
  • IT'S AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:47:53.140 --> 00:47:55.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:55.090 --> 00:47:59.110
  • - IN FACT, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH RESPECT
  • 00:47:59.130 --> 00:48:01.210
  • LOST FOR EACH OTHER.
  • 00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:04.140
  • IT'S JUST SO HEARTBREAKING TO ME.
  • 00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:08.030
  • - WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
  • 00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:10.040
  • - LOOK, I LOVE THESE STORIES. I LOVE THIS CONCEPT.
  • 00:48:10.060 --> 00:48:14.000
  • I LOVE THESE TV SHOWS THAT YOU GUYS ARE CREATING.
  • 00:48:14.020 --> 00:48:16.250
  • I THINK YOU ONLY MISSPOKE ONE THING.
  • 00:48:16.270 --> 00:48:19.270
  • YOU SAID JOHN HANCOCK.
  • 00:48:19.290 --> 00:48:21.160
  • I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS HERBIE HANCOCK.
  • 00:48:21.180 --> 00:48:22.260
  • - HERBIE, I'VE SEEN THAT MOVIE.
  • 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.110
  • - YEAH, OKAY, SORRY.
  • 00:48:25.130 --> 00:48:27.290
  • ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE LIKE TEN MINUTES,
  • 00:48:28.010 --> 00:48:30.180
  • A LITTLE LESS THAN, OKAY?
  • 00:48:30.200 --> 00:48:32.180
  • SO YOU GOT TO GIVE ABOUT TWO MINUTES TO FRANCIS SCOTT KEY
  • 00:48:32.200 --> 00:48:37.050
  • AND A COUPLE MINUTES TO PHILLIS WHEATON REAL QUICK.
  • 00:48:37.070 --> 00:48:39.030
  • - SURE, FRANCIS SCOTT KEY, INTERESTING GUY.
  • 00:48:39.050 --> 00:48:41.010
  • NOW, HE IS KNOWN IN THE NEWS AS A BAD GUY BECAUSE HE'S
  • 00:48:41.030 --> 00:48:44.040
  • THE GUY WHO DID THE NATIONAL ANTHEM STAR SPANGLED BANNER,
  • 00:48:44.060 --> 00:48:48.000
  • AND OF COURSE IN THE THIRD STANZA,
  • 00:48:48.020 --> 00:48:50.160
  • HE TALKS ABOUT SLAVERY.
  • 00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:52.150
  • SO HE'S A BAD GUY, SO NOW YOU SEE FOR EXAMPLE IN
  • 00:48:52.170 --> 00:48:56.000
  • BALTIMORE, THERE IS A BIG STATUE OF FRANCIS SCOTT KEY
  • 00:48:56.020 --> 00:48:58.160
  • WHO DID THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. IT'S BEEN DEFACED.
  • 00:48:58.180 --> 00:49:00.230
  • IT'S PAINTED OVER.
  • 00:49:00.250 --> 00:49:02.240
  • THEY'VE NOW HAD TO BLOCK IT OFF AND TRY TO REPAIR IT, SO
  • 00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:04.220
  • HE'S UNDER ATTACK. IT'S AN INTERESTING THING.
  • 00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:06.130
  • FRANCIS SCOTT KEY WAS THE NATIONAL LEADER OF AN
  • 00:49:06.150 --> 00:49:09.110
  • ANTI-SLAVERY ABOLITION MOVEMENT.
  • 00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:11.220
  • HE WENT TO COURT ON BEHALF OF SLAVE AND MORE THAN 200
  • 00:49:11.240 --> 00:49:15.140
  • SLAVE OWED THEIR FREEDOM TO HIM.
  • 00:49:15.160 --> 00:49:17.180
  • MORE THAN A HUNDRED CASES WENT TO COURT WHERE HE
  • 00:49:17.200 --> 00:49:20.020
  • ARGUED IN THOSE CASES.
  • 00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:21.150
  • HE WAS SO MUCH ARGUING FOR SLAVES THAT HE WAS KNOWN BY
  • 00:49:21.170 --> 00:49:24.280
  • THE NEWSPAPERS AS THE "N" LAWYER.
  • 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.180
  • OH, HE'S AN "N" GUY.
  • 00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:29.190
  • I MEAN, HERE'S A GUY WHO DID YOU SO MUCH FOR EQUAL RIGHTS
  • 00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:33.090
  • AND FIGHTS SO MUCH TO END SLAVERY AND WANTS BLACK TO
  • 00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:36.170
  • BE FREE AND EQUAL.
  • 00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:38.090
  • AND TODAY, WE LOOK AT HIM AND SAY, OH, HE DID THE
  • 00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:39.280
  • NATIONAL ANTHEM, HE'S A RACIST.
  • 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.160
  • - COMPLETE FAKE NEWS, I MEAN, LITERALLY.
  • 00:49:41.180 --> 00:49:43.190
  • - SURE.
  • 00:49:43.210 --> 00:49:45.090
  • - IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHO HE WAS.
  • 00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:47.000
  • - HE WASN'T A PERFECT GUY, WHICH SOME TIME PEOPLE WANT
  • 00:49:47.020 --> 00:49:49.030
  • TO POINT OUT IMPERFECTIONS AND SAY, OH, LOOK, HE DID
  • 00:49:49.050 --> 00:49:51.120
  • THAT WRONG. HE'S NOT A GOOD GUY.
  • 00:49:51.140 --> 00:49:53.080
  • OKAY, NO, HE WAS NOT A PERFECT GUY,
  • 00:49:53.100 --> 00:49:54.250
  • AND THERE'S MOMENTS --
  • 00:49:54.270 --> 00:49:56.100
  • - HE WAS AI HUMAN, STRANGE THING, IMAGINE THAT.
  • 00:49:56.120 --> 00:49:57.280
  • - WE CAN POINT TO HIS LIFE AND GO OH, THAT WASN'T GOOD.
  • 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.110
  • BUT EVEN IN THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, THE THIRD VERSE
  • 00:50:00.130 --> 00:50:02.090
  • WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THE ENSLAVEMENT, HE ACTUALLY WAS
  • 00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:04.240
  • TALKING TO BRITISH WHERE THEY WOULD CAPTURE
  • 00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:08.120
  • AMERICANS, KIND OF BONK THEM ON THE HEAD,
  • 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:10.060
  • CARRY THEM TO THE SHIPS.
  • 00:50:10.080 --> 00:50:11.240
  • - IMPRESSMENT.
  • 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.240
  • - AND THEY WOULD MAKE THEM BE THESE SAILORS
  • 00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:15.100
  • ON THE SHIP.
  • 00:50:15.120 --> 00:50:16.210
  • IF THEY ACTED OUT, THEY'D BE BEATEN,
  • 00:50:16.230 --> 00:50:18.020
  • THEY'D BE SHOT, THEY'D BE WHIPPED, WHATEVER HAPPENED.
  • 00:50:18.040 --> 00:50:19.170
  • SO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WANTING FREEDOM FROM THE
  • 00:50:19.190 --> 00:50:21.000
  • BRITISH OPPRESSING THE AMERICANS, BUT IT HAD
  • 00:50:21.020 --> 00:50:24.030
  • NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY.
  • 00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:26.030
  • BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY,
  • 00:50:26.050 --> 00:50:28.050
  • WE DON'T RECOGNIZE.
  • 00:50:28.070 --> 00:50:29.210
  • THIS ACTUALLY WAS AN ANTI-SLAVERY GUY.
  • 00:50:29.230 --> 00:50:31.120
  • NOW, HE WAS NOT A PERFECT GUY, AND THERE'S MOMENTS
  • 00:50:31.140 --> 00:50:33.000
  • AGAIN IN HIS LIFE THAT WE CAN POINT TO AND IF, OKAY,
  • 00:50:33.020 --> 00:50:34.230
  • THAT WAS REAL EYE WRONG. THAT WASN'T GOOD.
  • 00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:36.240
  • HE NEEDED JESUS A LITTLE MORE IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:38.240
  • THAT WAS NOT GOOD , BUT.
  • 00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:40.290
  • - WATCH THE EPISODE ON AMERICA'S HIDDEN HEROES.
  • 00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:43.290
  • - THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT THE NATIONAL
  • 00:50:44.010 --> 00:50:47.120
  • ANTHEM WAS PRINTED.
  • 00:50:47.140 --> 00:50:48.290
  • THAT'S THE FIRST PRINTING EVER OF THE STAR SPANGLED
  • 00:50:49.010 --> 00:50:50.220
  • BANNER, AND IT'S GOT ALL FOUR VERSES THERE INCLUDING
  • 00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:53.140
  • THE ONE THAT TALK ABOUT SLAVERY.
  • 00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:55.210
  • AND WHEN YOU READ IT IN CONTEXT, YOU GO,
  • 00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:57.200
  • I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM. EXACTLY.
  • 00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:59.050
  • IF YOU KNOW THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY AND HIS LIFE.
  • 00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:02.100
  • IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN WHAT WE SEE AS
  • 00:51:02.120 --> 00:51:03.230
  • THE NARRATIVE TODAY.
  • 00:51:03.250 --> 00:51:05.000
  • - PHILLIS WHEATLEY.
  • 00:51:05.020 --> 00:51:06.190
  • - OKAY, PHYLLIS WHEATLEY SOMEONE WHO CAME TO AMERICA
  • 00:51:06.210 --> 00:51:08.160
  • AS A SLAVE. SHE WAS SIX YEARS OLD.
  • 00:51:08.180 --> 00:51:10.120
  • ACTUALLY, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE OF HER AGE.
  • 00:51:10.140 --> 00:51:12.030
  • THEY DON'T HAVE THE RECORDS OF IT.
  • 00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:13.210
  • SHE CAME FROM SENEGAL AFRICA.
  • 00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:15.080
  • WHEN SHE TO THE TO AMERICA, THERE WAS A FAMILY, A WHITE
  • 00:51:15.100 --> 00:51:17.130
  • FAMILY, SAW HER AND PRESUMABLY THE DAD THOUGHT I
  • 00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:20.100
  • DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS SIX YEAR-OLD GO INTO SLAVERY.
  • 00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:22.270
  • SO HE BOUGHT HER, BROUGHT HER HOME TO
  • 00:51:22.290 --> 00:51:24.230
  • LIVE WITH THE FAMILY.
  • 00:51:24.250 --> 00:51:26.110
  • HE HAS A COUPLE OF KIDS AND SAYS, I WANT YOU TO START
  • 00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:28.120
  • TEACHING HER EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:30.160
  • LEARNING IN SCHOOL. SO THEY BEGIN TEACHING HER.
  • 00:51:30.180 --> 00:51:32.020
  • THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE LEARNED TO DO.
  • 00:51:32.040 --> 00:51:35.010
  • THIS IS A BOOK OF POETRY FROM PHILLIS WHEATLEY.
  • 00:51:35.030 --> 00:51:37.240
  • PHILLIS WHEATLEY WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN
  • 00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:40.120
  • FEMALE EVER TO HAVE PUBLISHED POETRY, AND SHE
  • 00:51:40.140 --> 00:51:42.160
  • DID IT AT A TIME WHEN SHE TECHNICALLY WAS STILL A
  • 00:51:42.180 --> 00:51:44.170
  • SLAVE, EVEN THOUGH THE FAMILY TREATED HER VERY WELL.
  • 00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:46.050
  • SHE WAS A SLAVE, AND SHE WAS A BLACK WOMAN
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  • WHO WAS A SLAVE.
  • 00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:49.260
  • SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF STANDING AT THAT
  • 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.140
  • POINT, ARGUABLE IN AMERICA, SHE'S THE LOWEST, AND YET,
  • 00:51:52.160 --> 00:51:55.190
  • HER TALENT WAS IMPRESSIVE THAT SHE WOW
  • 00:51:55.210 --> 00:51:57.290
  • A PUBLISHED POETESS.
  • 00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:00.090
  • WELL, SHE DID END UP GETTING HER FREEDOM, AND THE FAMILY
  • 00:52:00.110 --> 00:52:02.220
  • SUPPORTED HER AND LOVED HER ALL THE ALONG THE WAY.
  • 00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:04.140
  • SHE WAS SO FAMOUS.
  • 00:52:04.160 --> 00:52:06.060
  • SHE PERFORMED POETRY BEFORE GEORGE WASHINGTON, BEFORE
  • 00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.090
  • GEORGE WHITFIELD, A LOT OF REALLY COOL
  • 00:52:08.110 --> 00:52:11.030
  • STUFF IN HER LIFE.
  • 00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:12.290
  • AND TODAY, MOST PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD THE NAME PHILLIS
  • 00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:14.280
  • WHEATLEY, BUT SHE IS SOMEONE, AS MANY THE STORIES
  • 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.050
  • WE TELL, THEY BROKE THE MOLD IN THE ERA THEY LIVED IN
  • 00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:21.140
  • BASED ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
  • 00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:23.050
  • THEY WERE DIFFERENT.
  • 00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:24.270
  • THEY ROSE ABOVE IT, AND THIS IS THE FIRST POETRY EVER
  • 00:52:24.290 --> 00:52:27.040
  • PUBLISHED BY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN
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  • HERE IN AMERICA.
  • 00:52:28.240 --> 00:52:30.110
  • - I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:52:30.130 --> 00:52:32.000
  • OKAY, DAVID BARTON, WE TALKED ABOUT AMERICA'S
  • 00:52:32.020 --> 00:52:35.280
  • HIDDEN HISTORY, SEASON ONE WAS KIND OF THE DATES OF ALL
  • 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.190
  • THE NATIONAL HOLIDAYS.
  • 00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:42.060
  • SEASON TWO IS THESE HEROES.
  • 00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:44.190
  • WHAT MIGHT SEASON THREE BE?
  • 00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:48.070
  • - THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, TOM.
  • 00:52:48.090 --> 00:52:50.040
  • WHAT MIGHT SEASON THREE BE?
  • 00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:51.210
  • - WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT JUST SOME
  • 00:52:51.230 --> 00:52:53.200
  • OF THE AGENDA. - TIM?
  • 00:52:53.220 --> 00:52:58.000
  • - WHAT DO YOU GUYS SPEND MOST OF YOUR TIME NEEDING TO
  • 00:52:58.020 --> 00:53:01.260
  • GET INFORMATION OUT.
  • 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.130
  • I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE.
  • 00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.050
  • - WELL, FIRST OF ALL, EVEN FOR THIS SEASON WE'RE IN THE
  • 00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:07.140
  • MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAD A HUNDRED PLUS NAMES, AND WE
  • 00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:10.010
  • JUST REACHED INTO THE HAT AND PULLED OUT A FEW.
  • 00:53:10.030 --> 00:53:12.000
  • SO WE VERY EASILY COULD DO A FEW MORE SEASONS JUST OF
  • 00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:14.090
  • SOME OF THE HEROES THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE NAMES.
  • 00:53:14.110 --> 00:53:15.290
  • BUT THERE'S SO MUCH HISTORY THAT HAS BEEN LOST NOW,
  • 00:53:16.010 --> 00:53:19.020
  • WHETHER WE TALK ABOUT MILITARY LEADERS -- YOU
  • 00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:21.250
  • REALLY COULD PICK A TOPIC, RIGHT?
  • 00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:23.150
  • WHETHER IT'S MILITARY OR MUSIC OR PRESIDENTS.
  • 00:53:23.170 --> 00:53:25.080
  • WE JUST DON'T KNOW MUCH OF ANYTHING ANYMORE, BUT WHAT
  • 00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:27.220
  • WE WANT TO SEE IN AMERICA IS PEOPLE THAT COME BACK
  • 00:53:27.240 --> 00:53:30.170
  • SAYING, WE WANT TO LOOK PAST AGENDA AND SAY WHAT IS TRUE?
  • 00:53:30.190 --> 00:53:33.250
  • IT IS TRUE THAT OUR NATION WAS NOT PERFECT.
  • 00:53:33.270 --> 00:53:36.210
  • IN FACT, THERE WERE SOME REALLY BAD, AWFUL, AND EVIL
  • 00:53:36.230 --> 00:53:38.290
  • PEOPLE THAT EVEN WERE LEADERS OF OUR NATION AT
  • 00:53:39.010 --> 00:53:40.270
  • DIFFERENT TIMES IN OUR HISTORY.
  • 00:53:40.290 --> 00:53:42.140
  • BUT THERE ALSO WERE SOME REALLY GOOD SEEKING,
  • 00:53:42.160 --> 00:53:45.040
  • GOD-FEARING, GREAT, HUMBLE HEARTED PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO
  • 00:53:45.060 --> 00:53:48.000
  • DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:53:48.020 --> 00:53:49.170
  • AND IF WE JUST START LOOKING AND SAY, WHAT IS TRUE?
  • 00:53:49.190 --> 00:53:52.000
  • IT WOULD CHANGE OUR DYNAMIC AND PERSPECTIVE ALMOST THE
  • 00:53:52.020 --> 00:53:54.150
  • SAME AS IF WE LOOKED AT SCRIPTURE AND SAID, OKAY,
  • 00:53:54.170 --> 00:53:56.080
  • WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? AND LET ME LIVE BY IT.
  • 00:53:56.100 --> 00:53:59.030
  • WHAT OUR AGENDA IS IS REALLY WE WANT TO PROMOTE PEOPLE TO
  • 00:53:59.050 --> 00:54:01.150
  • PURSUE WHAT IS TRUE.
  • 00:54:01.170 --> 00:54:03.230
  • SO THAT'S WHY TELLING THESE STORIES IS JUST GIVING THESE
  • 00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:06.080
  • PEOPLE A TASTE TO GO, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELSE
  • 00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:08.090
  • IS OUT THERE.
  • 00:54:08.110 --> 00:54:10.000
  • WHAT MORE HAVE I NOT LEARNED?
  • 00:54:10.020 --> 00:54:11.110
  • AND HOPEFULLY STIR UP IN THEM A PURSUIT OF TRUTH.
  • 00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:14.140
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COOL ABOUT SCRIPTURE IS
  • 00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:16.260
  • JESUS SAID THERE'S ONE THING THAT TRUTH DOES
  • 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.240
  • THAT NOTHING ELSE DOES.
  • 00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:21.130
  • TRUTH SETS PEOPLE FREE, RIGHT?
  • 00:54:21.150 --> 00:54:22.290
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:29.080
  • - I LITERALLY WAS WATCHING ANDREW WOMACK
  • 00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:31.050
  • TALK ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:54:31.070 --> 00:54:32.270
  • IT'S ONE THING TO GO AROUND AND PRAY FOR PEOPLE.
  • 00:54:32.290 --> 00:54:35.010
  • IT'S ANOTHER TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TO PEOPLE BECAUSE
  • 00:54:35.030 --> 00:54:36.270
  • THE TRUTH IS WHAT SETS PEOPLE FREE.
  • 00:54:36.290 --> 00:54:38.220
  • SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT EXACTLY WHERE I WANTED TO GO
  • 00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:43.040
  • BECAUSE THIS IS TRUTH, AND THIS SETS PEOPLE FREE.
  • 00:54:43.060 --> 00:54:46.000
  • THIS SETS NATIONS FREE, THIS KIND OF TRUTH.
  • 00:54:46.020 --> 00:54:48.170
  • - DAVE, TWO MINUTES LEFT IN THE BROADCAST.
  • 00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:52.150
  • IF YOU THINK BACK TO SEASON ONE AND SEASON TWO, MOST OF
  • 00:54:52.170 --> 00:54:57.160
  • OUR NATIONAL HOLIDAYS, A LOT OF THESE HEROES, WHAT IS THE
  • 00:54:57.180 --> 00:55:03.130
  • OVER ARCHING THING YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL
  • 00:55:03.150 --> 00:55:06.200
  • THE VIEWING AUDIENCE?
  • 00:55:06.220 --> 00:55:08.170
  • WHY DO THEY NEED TO WATCH THIS SERIES?
  • 00:55:08.190 --> 00:55:10.080
  • - YOU GET INSPIRATIONAL HEROES.
  • 00:55:10.100 --> 00:55:12.220
  • I'M A WHITE GUY, AND I SPEAK IN BLACK CHURCHES ALL THE
  • 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:15.010
  • TIME DOING BLACK HISTORY, BUT THE POINT IS THAT'S
  • 00:55:15.030 --> 00:55:17.140
  • AMERICAN HISTORY. THEY ARE AMERICANS. THEY'RE MY HEROES.
  • 00:55:17.160 --> 00:55:20.180
  • SO I CAN'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A LADY.
  • 00:55:20.200 --> 00:55:23.080
  • I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A YOUNG PERSON.
  • 00:55:23.100 --> 00:55:24.290
  • I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S BLACK OR WHITE.
  • 00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:26.150
  • THEY'RE MY HEROES.
  • 00:55:26.170 --> 00:55:28.030
  • I CAN LEARN SOMETHING FROM THEIR LIVES, SO WHAT I'M
  • 00:55:28.050 --> 00:55:30.010
  • LOOKING FOR IS APPLICATION.
  • 00:55:30.030 --> 00:55:31.110
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:31.130 --> 00:55:34.110
  • SO APPLICATION IS WHAT WE WANT.
  • 00:55:34.130 --> 00:55:35.270
  • WHEN YOU KNOW TRUTH, AND YOU SEE THAT AND YOU SAY,
  • 00:55:35.290 --> 00:55:38.190
  • I CAN DO THAT. I CAN BE THAT.
  • 00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:40.150
  • WOW, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:41.210
  • I'LL TRY THAT.
  • 00:55:41.230 --> 00:55:43.100
  • THERE IS SO MUCH THAT WILL HELP YOU GROW AND EXPAND AND
  • 00:55:43.120 --> 00:55:45.000
  • BECOME MORE AND BIGGER BY SEEING WHAT'S BACK THERE AND
  • 00:55:45.020 --> 00:55:47.050
  • WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE.
  • 00:55:47.070 --> 00:55:49.180
  • - SAME QUESTION, TIM.
  • 00:55:49.200 --> 00:55:51.220
  • - I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY
  • 00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:54.170
  • IS THIS IDEA OF MAYBE WHAT HAVEN'T I HEARD?
  • 00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:57.130
  • BECAUSE UNTIL WE KIND OF GET A HUNGER FOR WANTING MORE,
  • 00:55:57.150 --> 00:55:59.200
  • WE REALLY ARE PRETTY CONTENT JUST IN OUR LIFE.
  • 00:55:59.220 --> 00:56:04.130
  • IT ACTUALLY TAKES WORK TO DISCOVER WHAT TRUTH IS, BUT
  • 00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:08.080
  • THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY PEOPLE GET
  • 00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:11.180
  • A TASTE FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T HAVE,
  • 00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:13.140
  • IT GIVES THEM A TASTE TO WANT MORE, AND AS WE BEGIN TO
  • 00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:16.210
  • PURSUE TRUTH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:56:16.230 --> 00:56:18.240
  • GOD WILL REVEAL TRUTH TO US AS WE PURSUE IT BOTH IN THE
  • 00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:22.000
  • WORD AND GOING BACK TO COOL STORY FROM AMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:56:22.020 --> 00:56:25.070
  • - SO LOOK, DAVE AND TIM SOMETIMES -- THIS IS A
  • 00:56:25.090 --> 00:56:29.180
  • COMPLIMENT, KIND OF -- SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE DRINKING
  • 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:34.120
  • OUT OF A FIRE HOSE TO GET YOUR INFORMATION,
  • 00:56:34.140 --> 00:56:36.290
  • BUT GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:56:37.010 --> 00:56:39.080
  • IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE OUT OF YOUR BELLY WILL FLOW RIVERS
  • 00:56:39.100 --> 00:56:42.040
  • OF LIFE-GIVING WATER.
  • 00:56:42.060 --> 00:56:43.230
  • WHETHER YOU'RE DRINKING OUT OF A WATER HOSE OR A --
  • 00:56:43.250 --> 00:56:46.030
  • - FIRE HYDRANT.
  • 00:56:46.050 --> 00:56:48.020
  • - FIRE HYDRANT, LIKE THESE GUYS, ALL WE WANT YOU TO KNOW
  • 00:56:48.040 --> 00:56:50.180
  • IS TRUTH, AND TRUTH SETS YOU FREE.
  • 00:56:50.200 --> 00:56:53.010
  • AMERICA' HIDDEN HISTORY, AND ALL THE HEROES, RIGHT
  • 00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:56.100
  • HERE ON TBN EXCLUSIVELY WITH THESE GUYS.
  • 00:56:56.120 --> 00:56:58.170
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:56:58.190 --> 00:57:00.110
  • - THANKS, AUDIENCE, THANK YOU!
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