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Praise | David & Tim Barton | September 19, 2019

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September 19, 2019

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Matt & Laurie Crouch and Tom Newman host David & Tim Barton

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Praise | David & Tim Barton | September 19, 2019

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[MUSIC]
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- TONIGHT ON PRAISE, FROM DALLAS, FOUNDER OF
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WALL BUILDERS AND HISTORIAN DAVID BARTON,
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PRESIDENT OF WALL BUILDERS AND NATIONAL
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SPEAKER TIM BARTON.
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[MUSIC]
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AND NOW MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH AND TOM NEWMAN.
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[APPLAUSE]
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- MATT CROUCH: COME ON, BIG D!
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I LIKE IT.
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[APPLAUSE]
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WE'RE GOING TO PLAY A LITTLE GAME HERE.
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FT. WORTH, TEXAS!
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[APPLAUSE]
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ALL RIGHT.
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DALLAS, TEXAS!
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[APPLAUSE]
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OKLAHOMA.
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[APPLAUSE]
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OKAY.
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SO WELCOME TO PRAISE TONIGHT.
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WE ARE IN BIG D.
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DAVID AND TIM BARTON ARE OUR GUESTS, AND LOOK,
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YOUR SERIES IS ALREADY ON THE AIR.
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WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME ATTENTION HERE ON
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THE PRAISE PROGRAM TO GET THIS AMAZING INFORMATION
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OUT TO OUR VIEWERS.
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DAVE, TIM, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT?
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- DAVID BARTON: AMERICA'S HEROES IS
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THIS SEASON.
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AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY WE STARTED COVERING LAST
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YEAR WITH THE HOLIDAYS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S
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BIOGRAPHIES OF PEOPLE, SOME OF THE MOST AMAZING
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STORIES EVERYBODY'S NOT HEARD.
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YOU MAY HAVE HEARD SOME OF THE PEOPLE, BUT THE
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STORIES ABOUT THEM ARE NEW, AND THEY
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ARE INSPIRATIONAL.
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THEY'RE CHALLENGING.
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THEY'RE FUNNY AT TIMES, BUT THEY ARE AMAZING
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STORIES ABOUT SOME GREAT HEROES.
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- TIM BARTON: AND SOME CHARACTER LESSONS WE
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LEARN IN LIFE WE LEARN THROUGH PEOPLE'S STORIES,
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AND IT'S KIND OF SAD TODAY IS THAT EVEN THOUGH
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SOMETIMES WE RECOGNIZE THE NAME, WE DON'T KNOW
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THE STORY.
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IN FACT, IF WE TALKED TO MOST PEOPLE AND SAID TELL
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US A STORY ABOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON, THE MOST
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COMMON ANSWER WE HEAR IS ABOUT HIS CHERRY TREE
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WHICH IS NOT EVEN A TRUE STORY.
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THERE WAS A STORY MADE UP ABOUT HIM CHOPPING DOWN A
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CHERRY TREE, AND I CANNOT TELL A LIE FATHER, I CUT
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DOWN THE TREE.
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- FAKE NEWS?
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- FAKE NEWS, RIGHT.
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#FAKENEWS.
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IT WAS DONE TO DEPICT HIS CHARACTER, RIGHT, THAT
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TESTIFIES SOMEONE WHO WAS SO HONEST AND HAD SO MUCH
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INTEGRITY, BUT IT'S A FAKE STORY, SO THE STORY
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THAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT GEORGE WASHINGTON
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IS ISN'T EVEN A REAL STORY, SO WHAT WE SAID IS
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YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY AMAZING STORIES FROM
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AMERICAN HISTORY, AND PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW.
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WE NEED TO HELP RETELL THESE STORIES.
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AND THERE ARE SO MANY GET CHARACTER LESSONS ALONG
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THE WAY THROUGH SO MANY OF THESE LIVES.
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- YEAH.
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OKAY, SO LET ME JUST SET THE STAGE.
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FIRST OF ALL, WHEREVER YOU'RE WATCHING, WELCOME
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TO THE PRAISE PROGRAM.
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DAVID AND TIM BARTON HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE TBN
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FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME.
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IN FACT, LAURIE AND I SAT DOWN WITH YOU, DAVE, A
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NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND DID AN AMAZING SERIES,
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AMERICAN HERITAGE SERIES, PROBABLY 15 YEARS AGO.
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WE STILL GET COMMENTS ABOUT THAT BROADCAST AND
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THOSE SHOWS BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE SPECIALIZED IN
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IS GIVING AMERICANS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE
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FOUNDING FATHERS, THE FOUNDING INTENTS, AND
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SOMETIMES LIKE TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING
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STORIES ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WE HAD NO IDEA WERE
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PEOPLE OF FAITH, NO IDEA -- A LOT OF TIMES.
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SO FIRST OF ALL, WHERE DO YOU GET ALL
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THIS INFORMATION?
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LET'S START THERE.
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WHY AND HOW DID YOU BECOME A NATIONAL
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TREASURE YOURSELF BY KNOWING ALL
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THIS INFORMATION?
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- I GOT THIS INFORMATION -- I GOT INTERESTED BECAUSE
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IN GOING PLACES, I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO HISTORICAL
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SITES AND SEE THE STORIES, SEE THE STATUES,
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WHO IS THAT?
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WELL, THAT'S COOL.
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I DIDN'T KNOW HE DID THAT.
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AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE HISTORY I LOVED, BUT I
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DID NOT LIKE THE HISTORY I GOT IN SCHOOL.
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HISTORY I GOT IN SCHOOL WAS NO FUN AT ALL, DATES
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AND NAMES AND PLACES, NO APPLICATION, NO MEANING.
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AND I CAME ACROSS 2 REALLY OLD PIECES OF
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AMERICAN HISTORY, ACTUAL DOCUMENTS.
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I'D BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS IN SCHOOL.
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WHEN I READ THE DOCUMENTS, THEY WERE
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TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT SCHOOL TOLD ME ABOUT
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THOSE DOCUMENTS.
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I GO, OH MY GOSH, SO I STARTED LOOKING FOR OLD
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DOCUMENTS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH
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STUFF, AND THE MORE YOU GO BACK TO THE OLD
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ORIGINAL STUFF, THE LESS I GUESS POLITICAL
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INTERPRETATION IT HAS.
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IT'S JUST THE TRUTH.
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THAT'S ALL WE CARED ABOUT WAS TRUTH, AND NOW WE
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SPIN IT.
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- YOU SPENT A LOT OF YOUR WALL BUILDERS
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MINISTRY TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY COLLECTING
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DOCUMENTS, SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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TALKING ABOUT.
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GIVE A NEW STATISTICS OF HOW MANY DOCUMENTS YOU'VE
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REVIEWED, SOME OF THE AGES OF THOSE DOCUMENTS
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SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
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TALKING ABOUT.
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- WE HAVE DOCUMENTS LIKE BIBLE DOCUMENTS
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GOING BACK INTO THE 1100'S SO ALMOST A
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THOUSAND YEARS OLD.
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THE OLDEST BIBLE WE HAVE IS 1590 BROUGHT TO
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AMERICA BY THE PURITANS IN THE EARLY FOUNDING
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OF AMERICA.
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SO WE HAVE ABOUT 120.000 ITEMS FROM BEFORE 1812.
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ORIGINALS OR COPIES OF ORIGINALS, ONE OF THE
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LARGEST COLLECTIONS IN AMERICA OF ORIGINAL
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MATERIAL FROM EARLY AMERICA.
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WE'VE GOT TONS OF STUFF FROM AFTER THAT.
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I MEAN, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS FROM THE 1900'S,
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BUT 120.000 FROM 1812 AND BEFORE.
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- OKAY.
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YOU TALK ABOUT HISTORY BEING BORING UNLESS YOU
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CAN CONNECT IT TO A PERSON, UNLESS YOU CAN
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CONNECT A STORY,
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HUMAN BEINGS LOVE STORIES.
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WE LOVE TO HEAR THEM.
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- THAT'S RIGHT.
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- WE LOVE TO TELL THEM, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS.
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SO TOM, JUST FIRST OF ALL LET ME JUST SAY TO YOU
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THAT A LOT OF WHAT THIS IS KIND OF CAME UNDER
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YOUR LEADERSHIP.
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YOU HELPED US WITH A LOT OF THIS CONTENT AND
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STUFF, SO WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM THAT WE'RE
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TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IN YOUR WORDS?
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- WELL, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY
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HEAR THE NAME WALL BUILDERS GO OH, THESE
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GUYS ARE WITH TRUMP ON THE WHOLE WALL THING DOWN
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IN MEXICO.
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TIM, TELL US WHAT WALL BUILDERS IS.
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- YEAH, IT'S BECOME A LITTLE CONFUSING OVER THE
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LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
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WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOUTHERN BORDER.
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THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
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THE NAME ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE BIBLE BOOK OF
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NEHEMIAH WHERE NEHEMIAH WAS SO BROKEN HEARTED
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OVER HOW HIS NATION HAD FALLEN, AND HE WANTED TO
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SEE HIS NATION REBUILT AND MADE STRONG AGAIN.
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AND SO THE CALL FROM NEHEMIAH 2:17 WAS LET US
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GO REBUILD THE WALLS THAT WERE NO LONGER A
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REPROACH, AND PEOPLE GO, WAIT A SECOND.
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YOU CAN NEVER REBUILD JERUSALEM, RIGHT.
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PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN
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SUPPORTING THE EFFORT WERE GIVING HIM A HARD
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TIME, WERE MAKING IT A CHALLENGE FOR HIM, BUT
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WHAT WAS SAID TO BE IMPOSSIBLE WAS COMPLETED
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IN 52 DAYS.
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THIS AMAZING THING THAT HAPPENS, AND REALLY IT
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WAS A GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT WHERE NEHEMIAH
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SAID EVERYBODY, LET'S JUST GET INVOLVED.
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LET'S MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND DO WHAT WE CAN, AND
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THIS IMPOSSIBLE PROJECT WAS ALL THE SUDDEN
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REBUILT, SO WHEN WE DECADES AGO, MY DAD WAS
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LOOKING AT AMERICA AND SAID OKAY, WE HAVE A
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NATION -- ALREADY BACK THEN WE CAN SEE WE'RE HEADED
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THE WRONG DIRECTION.
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WE'RE GOING IN A CRISIS KIND OF MODE.
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WE NEED TO REBUILD THE MORAL, THE RELIGIOUS, THE
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CONSTITUTIONAL HERITAGE OF THE NATION WHICH WAS
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ALREADY UNDER ATTACK, AND SO THE THOUGHT WAS JUST
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LIKE NEHEMIAH, LET'S GO BACK AND REBUILD THIS
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THING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER REPROACH, SO
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THAT'S REALLY THE HEART OF WALL BUILDERS IS WE
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WANT TO REBUILD AMERICA.
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- SO MATT, WHEN YOU ASKED ME ABOUT WHY, WHY
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WE -- DAVID AND I BOTH WENT TO ORAL ROBERTS
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UNIVERSITY, AND I WATCHED THIS GUY, AND HE TOOK ON
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THE WHOLE THING ABOUT TAKING PRAYER OUT OF
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SCHOOL AND THE DECLINE IN OUR SAT SCORES, AND I
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JUST KEPT CONNECTING WITH HIM.
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AND I KEPT SEEING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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WHEN PEOPLE KNOW OF OUR HISTORY, THE RICH
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HERITAGE, IT WAS AND IS AND SHOULD STAY A GODLY
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BASE, AND IT SHOULD NEVER BE REVISED, AND THIS GUYS
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ARE BRAVE ENOUGH AND BOLD ENOUGH TO RESTORE THE
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BREACH, TO BASICALLY TELL PEOPLE GUYS, WE CAN STILL
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TURN THIS AROUND.
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AND AS WE HAD LUNCH TODAY, WE SHARED SOME
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EXCITING THINGS ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE
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HAPPENING, THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR NATION NOW.
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- OKAY.
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SO WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE
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UNDERSTANDS IS DAVE AND TIM BARTON REGULAR WEEKLY
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SERIES RIGHT HERE ON TBN, BRAND-NEW CONTENT,
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AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY.
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THIS IS A BIT OF A TRAILER THAT WILL SHOW
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YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.
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INFORMATION IS ON THE SCREEN ABOUT WHEN IT AIRS.
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WATCH THIS.
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[MUSIC]
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- WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DISCOVER AMERICA'S
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HIDDEN HISTORY?
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A ROAD TRIP.
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JOIN DAVID BARTON AND TIM BARTON AS THEY HIT THE
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HIGHWAY TO DISCOVER THE HIDDEN HEROES WHO SHAPED
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THE AMERICA WE KNOW TODAY.
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SOME MADE THE HISTORY BOOKS.
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OTHERS DID NOT, YET ONE THING IS CLEAR, THESE
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TRAIL BLAZERS, ORIGINATORS AND OUTRIGHT
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CHARACTERS LED LIVES AS BIG AS OUR 50 STATES.
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THIS SEASON OF AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY COVERS
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CHARACTERS LIKE GENERAL DOUGLAS MCARTHUR, ANNIE
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OAKLEY, AND FRANCIS SCOTT KEY AS WELL AS
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LITTLE KNOWN HEROES, BRONCO CHARLIE, ROBERT
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SMALLS AND PHYLLIS WHEATLY, SO BUCKLE UP
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AND JOIN THE CONVOY AS THE BARTONS COMB THE
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COUNTRY FOR FACTS AND ARTIFACTS ON THESE HIDDEN
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HEROES OF OUR NATION'S PAST.
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DON'T MISS HIDDEN HEROES ON SEASON TWO OF
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AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY ONLY ON TBN.
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[APPLAUSE]
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- I LOVE THAT.
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LOOK, WE ARE TELLING STORIES THAT DON'T GET
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TOLD AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF BOTH YOU GUYS.
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KIND OF FINAL COMMENT BEFORE WE START GETTING
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INTO SOME OF THESE STORIES.
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- YEAH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S WORTH TELLING
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SOME OF THESE STORIES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT AMERICA
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TODAY OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE PROBLEMS.
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THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO SEE DIFFERENT IN OUR
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NATION, BUT MOST YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY CAN TELL YOU
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A LOT MORE ABOUT THE BAD THINGS WITH AMERICA THAN
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ANY GOOD THINGS ABOUT AMERICA.
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WE HAVE A VERY BAD TASTE IN OUR MOUTH ABOUT
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AMERICA, AND PART OF THE REASON IS WE DON'T REALLY
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KNOW SOME OF THE HEROES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE
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THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE, AND EVEN THE WAY WE TEACH
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HISTORY HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, MENTIONING WE JUST
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DON'T KNOW STORIES ANYMORE.
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AND A REALLY FUN EXAMPLE I ENJOY USING WITH KIDS
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I SAY OKAY KIDS, HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THE STORY OF
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DAVID AND GOLIATH AND OF COURSE IN MOST OF THESE
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SETTINGS THEY SAY OH, I'VE HEARD OF DAVID
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AND GOLIATH.
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I SAY OKAY, WHAT YEAR DID DAVID KILL GOLIATH?
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I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YEAR.
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DOWN KNOW WHAT YEAR?
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BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY WHAT YEAR.
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DO YOU KNOW WHY?
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BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THE STORY.
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WHAT WE DO TODAY IS WE MAKE THINGS THAT
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SHOULDN'T BE THE POINT OF THE STORY THE WHOLE
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EMPHASIS AND WE LOSE THE STORY ALONG THE WAY FOR
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THE DETAILS.
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AND SO EVEN WITH KING DAVID IS AN INTERESTING
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EXAMPLE BECAUSE KING DAVID IS SOMEONE WHO IF
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WE STUDIED HIS LIFE LIKE WE DO HISTORY TODAY, YOU
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WOULD THINK THAT'S THE MOST EVIL PERSON THAT'S
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EVER LIVED BECAUSE LOOK WHAT HE DID WITH URIAH.
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AFTER HE HAS THE AFFAIR WITH BATHSHEBA, HE
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MURDERED THE GUY.
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AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BAD FATHER, IF
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YOU MEASURED ALL THE MEN IN THE BIBLE, HE'S
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PROBABLY THE WORST FATHER IN THE BIBLE.
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WHEN YOU LOOK AT ADONIJAH ABSALOM, WHEN YOU START
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GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE GUYS, THERE WERE
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SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS.
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BUT WHAT THE BIBLE DOES THE BIBLE TELLS THE WHOLE
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STORY, THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.
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DAVID WAS ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLE WORSHIPPERS WE
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SEE IN THE BIBLE.
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HE WAS AN AMAZING WARRIOR.
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HE WAS A MAN AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART, BUT WE TRY TO
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REDUCE STORIES DOWN TO MAKE IT SO BASIC.
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WE SAY THEY ARE EITHER TOTALLY GOOD OR TOTALLY
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BAD, AND REALLY THE REALITY IS THAT NONE OF
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US REALLY FALL ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE EQUATIONS.
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WE ARE TOTALLY JACKED UP PEOPLE, RIGHT, BUT WHAT'S
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AMAZING EVEN ABOUT SCRIPTURE IS GOD USES
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REALLY MESSED UP PEOPLE AND DOES SOMETHING INCREDIBLE.
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- COME ON NOW!
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- RIGHT?
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[APPLAUSE]
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- THAT'S AWESOME.
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- SO EVEN LOOKING BACK TELLING SOME OF THESE
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STORIES, WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT IS WE'RE NOT
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GOING BACK AND SAYING THESE PEOPLE WERE AMAZING
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AND DIDN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
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NO, OUR STARTING PLACE WITH ALL OF HISTORY IS
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THAT ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE
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GLORY OF GOD.
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OUR STARTING PLACE IS NOPE, THEY WERE ALL
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JACKED UP AND NEEDED JESUS.
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- YEAH.
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- THAT'S OUR STARTING PLACE.
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- AUDIENCE, ANYONE JACKED UP, NEED JESUS?
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[APPLAUSE] COME ON NOW.
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ALL RIGHT. GOOD. OKAY.
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LET'S JUMP INTO ANNIE OAKLEY.
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- YEAH.
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- FAMOUS NAME.
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DON'T KNOW ANYTHING EXCEPT SHE WAS A
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SHARP SHOOTER.
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THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT HER.
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- RIGHT.
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SO CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MORE FAMOUS NAMES IN
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AMERICAN HISTORY THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW
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HER STORY, AND TO REALLY GET BETTER DETAILS
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THERE'S A WHOLE EPISODE ABOUT THIS SO JUST TUNE
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IN AND WATCH THE EPISODE, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING
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ONE OF THE REMARKABLE THINGS IS SHE WAS A GIRL
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WHO CAME FROM NOTHING, AND WAS THE FIRST
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SUPERSTAR FEMALE IN AMERICA AND WAS A PERSON OF
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PROFOUND FAITH ALONG THE WAY, NEVER LOST HER
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CONSCIENCE, NEVER LOST HER SOUL, WAS ONE OF THE
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MOST MODEST PERFORMERS IN AMERICA'S HISTORY, WE
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ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL PRETTY COOL THINGS FROM HER.
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THIS A 22 LITTLE PUMP RIFLE, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS
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SOMETHING IS, IT HAS HER NAME ON THE SIDE.
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AS SHE'D TRAVEL AND PERFORM SOME OF THESE
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SHOOTING EXHIBITIONS, SHE'D DO A EXHIBITION AND
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THEN RAFFLE HER RIFLE.
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SO THIS WAS A RIFLE SHE'D SHOOT A COMPETITION WITH
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OR SHOOT A PERFORMANCE WITH AND RAFFLE OFF.
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ONE OF THE REALLY COOL THINGS SHE'D DO IN A
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PERFORMANCE IS SHE'D HAVE PEOPLE THROW COINS UP IN
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THE AIR FOR HER AND SHE'D SHOOT THE COINS OUT OF
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THE AIR WITH A POLL OR RIFLE, DIDN'T MATTER.
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THIS IS A COIN THAT SHE USED IN ONE OF HER
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TRAVELS, ACTUALLY WHEN SHE WAS PART OF THE WILD
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WEST SHOW WITH BUFFALO BILL.
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THEY WERE OVER IN EUROPE.
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THEY PERFORMED FOR THE QUEEN.
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THIS USED TO HAVE A PICTURE OF THE QUEEN ON
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THIS COIN.
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SHE SHOT THE MIDDLE OUT OF THE COIN WHICH I WOULD
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NEVER ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO SHOOT THEIR GUN UP IN
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THE AIR AFTER A COIN.
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THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY DANGEROUS THING TO DO,
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BUT THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE CHALLENGING ASK.
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HER HUSBAND HAD BEEN A SHARP SHOOTER AS WELL,
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AND ANNIE TRAVELED WITH HIM JUST AS A HELPER, AND
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THEN ONE OF HIS GUYS GOT SICK AND COULDN'T
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PERFORM, SO ANNIE STEPPED UP AND SHE WAS THE CROWD
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FAITH ID, AND FROM THEN ON THE CROWD DIDN'T WANT
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TO SEE HIM, ONLY HER.
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SO HE BEGAN TO THROW TARGETS FOR HER.
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BEFORE THERE WERE CLAY TARGETS, THEY HAD THESE
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GLASS TARGETS.
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GLASS BALLS.
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- THAT'S ONE OF HER TARGETS.
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- AND IF PEOPLE HAVE EVER SEEN SKEET SHOOTING
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OR CLAY PIGEONS WHERE THEY THROW THE SKEET UP
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IN THE AIR, THEY'D THROW THESE UP IN THE AIR
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ANYWHERE 15, 20, 30, 40 YARDS AWAY.
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WITH A PISTOL, RIFLE, OR SHOTGUN DIDN'T MATTER,
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SHE'D SHOOT THEM OUT OF THE AIR.
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DURING ONE OF THE CONTESTS HE THREW UP
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-- FRANK, HER HUSBAND THROUGH UP A THOUSAND OF
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THESE GLASS BALLS.
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SHE SHOT ONE 970 WITH HER RIFLE.
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SO NOT A SHOTGUN, A RIFLE.
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DURING ONE EXHIBITION, HE THREW UP 5.000 OF THESE.
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SHE SHOT 4772.
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AGAIN, PISTOL, RIFLE, SHOTGUN, DIDN'T MATTER.
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- THAT WAS IN ONE SHOW?
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- OH YEAH, OH YEAH.
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- HOW LONG WAS THE SHOW?
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- AND WHAT DID YOUR SHOULDER FEEL LIKE
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AT THE END?
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- YEAH.
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- HOW MANY SHOTS IS THAT ON YOUR SHOULDER?
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- SHE HAD SO MANY TRICKS.
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SHE'D HAVE SOMEONE HOLDUP A CARD LIKE THIS AND
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SHE'D SHOOT IT THROUGH THE SIDE SIDEWAYS AND
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CUT IT IN HALF.
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SHE'D HAVE SOMEONE THROW UP A PLAYING CARD IN THE
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AIR AND WITH A PISTOL SHE'D SHOOT IT 6 TIMES BEFORE
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SHE'D HIT THE GROUND.
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SHE HAD A DOG NAMED DAVE, THIS DOG WAS PART OF THE
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SHOW, SHE'D SET THE DOG OUT THERE, PUT AN APPLE
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ON HIS HEAD AND SHOOT THE APPLE OFF HIS HEAD.
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- BY THE WAY, NEVER DO THAT.
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- THAT'S RIGHT.
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- DON'T SHOOT AT YOUR DOG, RIGHT?
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SO KIDS WATCHING AT HOME, DON'T DO THAT EVER.
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NEVER SHOOT AT YOUR DOG.
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- THAT'S RIGHT.
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- THAT'S A BAD DECISION.
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VERY WELL TRAINED DOG.
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IT SAT THERE, DIDN'T MOVE.
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- DAVE WOULD TURN SIDEWAYS WITH HIS NOSE.
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SHE'D PUT A SUGAR CUBE ON HIS NOSE AND SHOOT THE
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SUGAR CUBE OFF HIS NOSE.
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WHAT SHE DID FOR TRICKS IT WAS AMAZING.
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SHE'D DO IT GALLOPING ON A HORSE.
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YOU COULD HOLD A CARD UP, SHE'D SHOOT THE ACE OF
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SPADES OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE CARD WHILE SHE
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WAS GALLOPING.
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AMAZING STUFF THAT ANNIE OAKLEY DID. AMAZING.
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- AND THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY.
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- HOW HARD WOULD THAT BE?
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- AND THIS IS WHY PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THE EPISODE
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BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A GLIMPSE.
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THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THE STORY AND THIS AGAIN IS
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WHY IT'S COOL.
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PEOPLE KNOW THE NAME ANNIE OAKLEY.
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THEY DON'T KNOW HER STORY AND HER STORY TRULY
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IS REMARKABLE.
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- OKAY.
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IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, WE ARE DOING AMERICA'S
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HIDDEN HISTORY.
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DAVE AND TIM BARTON ARE HERE ALL NIGHT.
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BASS REEVES, WHO IS HE AND WHY DO WE NEED TO
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KNOW HIM?
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- LOVE BASS REEVES.
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BASS REEVES WAS BORN IN 1838 INTO SLAVERY AND HE
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WAS A SLAVE IN TEXAS.
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HE BEAT UP HIS MASTER, ESCAPED AND GOTTA WAY
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FROM SLAVERY.
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HE WENT INTO THE OKLAHOMA AREA WHICH AT THAT TIME
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WAS FIVE INDIAN TRIBES.
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HE WENT INTO THE WILD PART OF THE NATION.
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NOBODY WENT INTO THAT INDIAN TRIBE AREA, AND
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THAT'S WHERE ALL OUTLAWS WENT AND THAT'S WHERE HE
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WENT FOR SAFETY.
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HE LIVED THERE LONG ENOUGH, HE SAID I KNOW
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THE OKLAHOMA TERRITORY LIKE A WOMAN KNOWS
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HER KITCHEN.
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AND SO WHAT HAPPENED -- - WHICH IS NOT
00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.200
DEROGATORY AT THAT TIME, OKAY.
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[LAUGHTER]
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SOMEBODY TODAY IS GOING TO GO WAIT A SECOND.
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NO, NO, IT'S OKAY.
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- SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS AFTER THE CIVIL WAR IS
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OVER HE GETS HIS FREEDOM.
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HE MOVES BACK INTO ARKANSAS, AND PRESIDENT
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ULYSSES S. GRANT
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SENDS JUDGE ISAAC PARKER TO ARKANSAS AND
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SAYS YOU NEED TO BRING LAW AND ORDER THERE
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BECAUSE ALL THESE OUTLAWS FROM THAT PART HAVE GONE
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OVER INTO THE INDIAN TERRITORY.
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AND SO AS ISAAC PARKER GETS THERE AS A JUDGE, HE
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NEEDS SOME DEPUTIES, AND YOU GOT BASS REEVES,
00:17:00.180 --> 00:17:04.050
BLACK COWBOY WHO KNOWS THAT AREA, SO HE SAYS
00:17:04.070 --> 00:17:07.130
I'LL BE YOUR DEPUTY.
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SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BASS REEVES BECOMES THE
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MOST EFFECTIVE FEDERAL DEPUTY EVER IN THAT AREA.
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HE'S THE ONLY GUY TO SERVE FROM THAT TERRITORIAL
00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.010
TIME ALL THE WAY TO OKLAHOMA STATEHOOD.
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HE MADE MORE THAN 3.000 ARRESTS.
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- LET ME JUST ADD MAKING 3.000 ARRESTS IS EVEN
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MORE IMPRESSIVE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT HE
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COULD NOT READ.
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- OH MY GOODNESS.
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- SO HE MEMORIZED EVERY SINGLE WARRANT HE GOT
00:17:29.190 --> 00:17:32.140
WHICH TELLS HE HAD A GREAT MIND TO MEMORIZE
00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.150
ALL OF THAT, BUT IT ALSO MAKES ONE OF HIS TRICKS
00:17:34.170 --> 00:17:38.020
THAT HE USED TO ARREST PEOPLE EVEN
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MORE BRILLIANT.
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WHAT DID HE DO?
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- IT'S REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE HE'D -- AND BY THE
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WAY, WHEN HE'D GO AFTER THESE GUYS HE'D GO OUT ON
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AN 800 MILE CIRCUIT CAN A WHOLE STACK OF WARRANTS
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AND HE MIGHT COME BACK WITH 15, 16, 18 GUYS
00:17:49.010 --> 00:17:51.000
CARRYING THEM IN TOW.
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SO AS HE'S LOOKING FOR THESE GUYS HAVING
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MEMORIZED HE WAS OUT AT ONE POINT AND A COUPLE OF
00:17:54.150 --> 00:17:58.070
GUYS HE WAS LOOKING FOR FOUND HIM FIRST, AND THEY
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KNEW THAT HE WAS COMING FOR THEM, THAT HE WAS
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GOING TO KILL THEM -- THEY WERE GOING TO KILL BASS
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REEVES, SO BASS SAYS, AND THEY SAID WELL, AND THEY
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SAID DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE KILL YOU?
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HE SAID I'VE GOT A LETTER FROM MY WIFE.
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CAN I READ THIS LETTER?
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WELL, HE CAN'T READ.
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SO HE PULLS THE LETTER, AND THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.
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HE PULLS THE LETTER OUT, STARTS READING THE
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LETTER, AND AS HE STARTS READING, STRUGGLING WITH
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IT, ASKS FOR HELP, THEY COME, AND WHEN THEY LOOK
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AT THE LETTER HE PULLS HIS GUN ON THEM AND
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CAPTURES THEM.
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[LAUGHTER]
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- AND HE SAID HE USED THIS SEVERAL TIMES,
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[TEARFULLY]SO I JUST CAN'T -- CAN YOU READ THIS FOR ME,
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AND THEY LOOK AT THE LETTER, HE DREW HIS GUN.
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- I LOVE THAT.
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- IT'S AWESOME. I LOVE IT. THIS GUY IS AWESOME.
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[LAUGHTER]
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- AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE A VERY EDUCATED
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WHITE GUY WHO'S A CONGRESSMAN WITH A VERY
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BRILLIANT BLACK GUY WHO'S IN SLAVERY AND CANNOT
00:18:43.090 --> 00:18:45.100
READ AND THEY'RE BEST FRIENDS.
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IN SO MANY WAYS THEY WORKED WITH EACH OTHER.
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AND WHAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER WAS THEIR CHRISTIAN
00:18:49.170 --> 00:18:51.050
FAITH. THEY BOTH HAD A LOVE FOR THE LORD, AND THEY BOTH
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HAD A LOVE FOR JUSTICE AND DOING THE RIGHT THING.
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AND HE DID THE RIGHT THING EVEN WHEN IT WAS
00:18:55.260 --> 00:18:57.170
DIFFICULT FOR HIM.
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OF ALL THE PEOPLE HE ARRESTED, HE HAD TO
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ARREST HIS OWN PASTOR, THE GUY WHO BAPTIZED HIM
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IN THE FAITH, BECAUSE HIS PASTOR WAS SELLING
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WHISKEY IN THE INDIAN TERRITORY.
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AND HIS PASTOR SAID WELL, I'M DOING IT TO RAISE
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MONEY TO PAY OFF THE DEBT OF THE CHURCH.
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NO, NO, NO, IT'S ILLEGAL TO SELL WHISKEY.
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SO HE HAD TO ARREST HIS OWN PASTOR.
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SO I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING STUFF.
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- WHAT YEAR ARE WE TALKING?
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- WE'RE TALKING FROM ABOUT 1870 UNTIL ABOUT 1907,
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SO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
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HE'S JUST A PHENOMENAL LAWMAN. PHENOMENAL LAWMAN.
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- OKAY. BRONCO CHARLIE.
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- BRONCO CHARLIE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES.
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HE WAS CONSIDERED THE MOST FAMOUS RIDER EVER TO
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RIDE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS.
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WE HAVE A BOOK THAT IS HIS BIOGRAPHY, AND THIS IS
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BRONCO CHARLIE. NOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE
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WHEN HE RODE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS BECAUSE WHEN
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HE RODE FOR THE PONY EXPRESS, HE AT THAT TIME
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WAS ONLY ELEVEN YEARS OLD.
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- MATT: OH, MY GOODNESS.
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- SO ALSO TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE, THE PONY
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EXPRESS, THIS IS A REPRINT OF ONE OF THEIR
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WANTED POSTERS.
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SO ON THIS WANTED POSTER, IT SAYS THEY WOULD GO
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FROM SAINT JOSEPH, MISSOURI TO CALIFORNIA IN
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TEN DAYS OR LESS.
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THAT'S 1800 MILES ON HORSEBACK.
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- IN TEN DAYS.
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- YOU'RE AVERAGING 180 MILES A DAY ON HORSEBACK,
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WHICH IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN ON A TRAIL RIDE, AFTER
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15, 20, 30 MILES YOUR BOTTOM HURTS. YOU'RE DONE.
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THE HORSE IS TIRED. THEY AVERAGED 180 MILES.
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BUT THIS IS THEIR RECRUITING POSTER.
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SO IT SAYS WANTED, YOUNG, SKINNY, WIRY FELLOWS, NOT
00:20:27.110 --> 00:20:30.020
OVER 18, MUST BE EXPERT RIDERS, WILLING TO RISK
00:20:30.040 --> 00:20:33.140
DEATH DAILY, ORPHANS PREFERRED, $25 DOLLARS A WEEK.
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- MATT: COME ON NOW!
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[LAUGHTER]
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HOW MANY ARE READY TO RIDE? COME ON.
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[LAUGHTER]
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- NOW, $25 DOLLARS A WEEK IS REALLY REALLY GOOD PAY.
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- BACK THEN THAT'S HUGE MONEY.
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- BUT WHY DID YOU PREFER ORPHANS?
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BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS A DANGEROUS JOB.
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BRONCO CHARLIE ACTUALLY HAD HIS DAD VOLUNTEER HIM.
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HIS DAD-- ACTUALLY THERE WAS A HORSE THAT RODE
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INTO TOWN AND IT WAS THE MAIL HORSE.
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THE RIDER WAS GONE.
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THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THEY KNOW
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THE MAIL HAS TO KEEP GOING.
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- PONY EXPRESS HORSE.
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- SO HE AND HIS DAD RAN TO THE STATION.
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HIS DAD KNEW THE STATION MASTER.
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THE STATION MASTER SAID WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?
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I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO GO.
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AND HIS DAD SAYS, OR ACTUALLY HE SAID "MY DAD
00:21:17.210 --> 00:21:20.110
LOOKED AT ME AND I LOOKED AT MY DAD AND WE JUST
00:21:20.130 --> 00:21:22.040
KNEW" IS WHAT HE WROTE IN HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY.
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HIS DAD PICKED HIM UP, PUT HIM ON THE HORSE,
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HIS DAD SAID GO, AND HE JUST TOOK OFF RIDING.
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BACK THEN, THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROAD IN TO TOWN AND
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ONE ROAD OUT OF TOWN, SO IT WASN'T AS CONFUSING TO
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FIGURE OUT, BUT HE RODE 40 MILES TO THE NEXT
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STATION TO HAND OFF THE MAIL.
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WELL THE STATION MASTER SAID WE APPRECIATE YOU
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COMING, BUT SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO RIDE BACK
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THE NEXT DAY, SO THEY SENT HIM BACK THE NEXT
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DAY WITH MAIL GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION.
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BUT HE GOT BACK TO WHERE HE HAD FIRST MET THE
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HORSE, WELL THE RIDER WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP HASN'T
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SHOWED UP YET, SO SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE IT
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BACK ANOTHER DIRECTION.
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HE RODE 77 MILES AS AN ELEVEN YEAR OLD TAKING
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THE MAIL BACK AND FORTH.
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AND THEN THEY DECIDED WE NEED TO INCREASE HIS
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DISTANCE TO 170 MILES BECAME HIS ROUTE OF THE
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PONY EXPRESS. NOW, HE'S ELEVEN.
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WHEN I WAS ELEVEN, I COULDN'T GO TO THE
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MALL BY MYSELF, RIGHT?
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I MEAN THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE STUFF.
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WELL THE PONY EXPRESS ONLY GOES ON FOR A YEAR
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AND A HALF BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EXPANSION OF THE
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RAILROAD, THE TELEGRAPH MAKES IT OUT WEST.
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HE BECOMES VERY FAMOUS, ENDS UP BEING PART OF
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BUFFALO BILL'S WILD WEST.
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HE LEAVES THE WILD WEST SHOW WHEN HE'S 44.
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- BY THE WAY, GOING BACK TO WHEN HE'S ELEVEN, HE
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ALSO GETS SHOT BY INDIANS AND IT'S JUST LIKE PULL
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THE ARROWS OUT, SHAKE IT OFF, YOU'RE FINE.
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IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
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- SHOT ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.
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- HE PULLED ARROWS OUT OF HIS BODY?
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- WELL, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HIM OR HIS DAD.
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WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE ARROWS GOT PULLED OUT
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AND HIS DAD TOLD HIM TO KEEP RIDING.
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SO YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS.
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- AND TIM, WHEN YOU SAID A MAIL HORSE,
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YOU DIDN'T MEAN A BOY HORSE,
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YOU MEAN A HORSE THAT HAD MAIL ON IT.
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- CORRECT. GOOD CLARIFICATION. CORRECT.
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I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE HORSE HE
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RODE, I HAVE NO IDEA, BUT IT WAS A HORSE TO DELIVER
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MAIL. PONY EXPRESS WAS A BUSINESS THAT WAS
00:23:03.230 --> 00:23:06.050
DELIVERING MAIL BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
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BUT AS HIS LIFE GOES ON, HIS LIFE IS FULL OF
00:23:09.190 --> 00:23:12.290
ADVENTURE. WHEN HE'S 44, HE RETIRES TO A FARM.
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HE'S MARRIED. THEY HAVE SEVERAL KIDS.
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SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 44 AND THE NEXT TIME HE WRITES
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ABOUT THIS, THE NEXT TEN OR FIFTEEN YEARS, HIS
00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:24.260
FAMILY GOT BLACK DIPHTHERIA. PLAGUE BROKE OUT.
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IT ACTUALLY KILLED HIS THREE KIDS.
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HIS WIFE WAS INCREDIBLY SICK.
00:23:30.290 --> 00:23:32.280
THEY PUT A QUARANTINE ON THE HOUSE.
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THEY WEREN'T SURE THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE IT.
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AND AT THIS POINT, HE WAS WALKING THROUGH TOWN,
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HEARD THE SALVATION ARMY BAND PLAYING, AND HEARD
00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:43.090
THE SONG-- AND SALVATION ARMY BAND BACK THEN WAS
00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:46.030
REALLY TRYING TO WIN LOST SOULS, SO THE MUSIC THEY
00:23:46.050 --> 00:23:50.020
WERE PLAYING WAS REALLY EVANGELISTIC KIND OF MUSIC.
00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:52.240
AND HE STOPPED AND LISTENED, AND SO HERE'S
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SOME SONG ABOUT JESUS. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH SONG.
00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:57.200
WELL, HE WRITES ABOUT IT IN THIS LETTER.
00:23:57.220 --> 00:24:01.060
THIS IS THE ONLY LETTER IN KNOWN EXISTENCE FROM
00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:04.020
BRONCO CHARLIE, BUT IN THIS LETTER HE WRITES
00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:06.100
ABOUT HIS CONVERSION AT THE END OF THIS LETTER.
00:24:06.120 --> 00:24:09.180
HE THEN WRITES THAT LATER IN LIFE, GOD GAVE HIM AND
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:12.040
HIS WIFE TWO MORE KIDS.
00:24:12.060 --> 00:24:13.270
HE SAYS GOD RESTORED TO ME MY WIFE AND GAVE US
00:24:13.290 --> 00:24:16.130
TWO KIDS. SO REALLY COOL, HE GETS SAVED.
00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:19.030
BUT HE'S KIND OF AN ADVENTURE JUNKIE, SO WHEN
00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:22.130
HE'S 67 WORLD WAR I BREAKS OUT.
00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:25.040
HE DECIDES AS A 67 YEAR OLD, HE WANTS TO BE PART
00:24:25.060 --> 00:24:28.090
OF WORLD WAR I. SO HE GOES AND SIGNS UP.
00:24:28.110 --> 00:24:31.030
BUT YOU CAN IMAGINE MOST AMERICAN RECRUITING
00:24:31.050 --> 00:24:33.100
OFFICES TODAY WOULD SAY SIR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR
00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.020
VIGOR AND ENERGY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR 67 YEAR OLDS.
00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:38.120
BUT HIS FRIEND TOLD HIM CANADA WILL TAKE YOU UP TO
00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:41.020
THE AGE OF 44, SO HE GOT ON HIS HORSE AND RODE TO
00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:43.270
CANADA. YOU CAN IMAGINE HE SAID I'M 44 AND
00:24:43.290 --> 00:24:46.150
I WANT TO FIGHT EH?
00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:48.030
SO THE CANADIANS WERE LIKE HEY, YOU CAN
00:24:48.050 --> 00:24:49.190
COME FIGHT WITH US.
00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.020
HE FOUGHT WITH THEM FOR TWO YEARS, HE SAYS,
00:24:51.040 --> 00:24:52.220
UNTIL HE WAS OVERSEAS.
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.040
THEY CALLED HIM PAPS, THEY KNEW HE WAS OLDER
00:24:54.060 --> 00:24:56.030
BUT HE ENTERTAINED THEM WITH STORIES.
00:24:56.050 --> 00:24:57.200
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE GUY THAT RODE FOR THE
00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:59.230
PONY EXPRESS, WAS PART OF BUFFALO BILL'S WILD WEST
00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:01.190
SHOW, HE HAD SOME GREAT STORIES.
00:25:01.210 --> 00:25:03.160
WELL, HE SAYS ONE DAY HE TOLD THEM HOW OLD HE
00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:05.200
ACTUALLY WAS, AND HIS COMMANDER SAID YOU'RE
00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.140
GONNA NEED TO GO BACK.
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.080
WE CAN'T HAVE A 69 YEAR OLD OVER HERE.
00:25:09.100 --> 00:25:10.250
THEY SENT HIM HOME.
00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:12.040
WHEN HE WAS 80, HE WANTED TO RELIVE THE GLORY DAYS,
00:25:12.060 --> 00:25:14.090
THE PONY EXPRESS.
00:25:14.110 --> 00:25:15.160
HE RODE FROM NEW YORK TO CALIFORNIA DELIVERING AN
00:25:15.180 --> 00:25:17.250
OFFICIAL MAIL DISPATCH AS AN 80 YEAR OLD ON ONE HORSE.
00:25:17.270 --> 00:25:20.290
IT TOOK HIM SEVEN MONTHS TO MAKE THE JOURNEY,
00:25:21.010 --> 00:25:23.090
LIVING OUTSIDE ALL ALONG THE WAY.
00:25:23.110 --> 00:25:26.260
SO THUNDER STORMS, RAIN, DIDN'T MATTER, COLD, HOT,
00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:29.190
HE ENDURED IT, DELIVERED THE MAIL.
00:25:29.210 --> 00:25:31.270
WHEN HE WAS 92, WORLD WAR II BROKE OUT.
00:25:31.290 --> 00:25:34.130
AGAIN, ADVENTURE JUNKY, HE GOES AND SIGNS UP
00:25:34.150 --> 00:25:37.130
FOR WORLD WAR II.
00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:39.040
- WHICH COUNTRY DID HE SIGN UP FOR NOW?
00:25:39.060 --> 00:25:42.240
- HE WANTS A PIECE OF HITLER APPARENTLY.
00:25:42.260 --> 00:25:44.180
SO HE GOES AND SIGNS UP FOR WORLD WAR II.
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.070
THEY TELL HIM AGAIN SIR, YOU'RE TOO OLD.
00:25:47.090 --> 00:25:49.130
BUT THIS TIME THEY RECOGNIZE THAT'S BRONCO CHARLIE.
00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:52.040
THIS GUY IS REALLY FAMOUS.
00:25:52.060 --> 00:25:53.140
- THIS IS FAMOUS. I MEAN THAT'S LIKE LOOKING AT
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.170
AN A-LISTER IN HOLLYWOOD.
00:25:55.190 --> 00:25:57.100
- SO THEY REQUESTED IF HE WOULD ACTUALLY DO SOME
00:25:57.120 --> 00:26:01.000
OF THESE RALLIES TO SELL WAR BONDS TO HELP RAISE
00:26:01.020 --> 00:26:05.020
MONEY. SO THEY SAID WELL THE TRAIN'S GONNA GO FROM
00:26:05.040 --> 00:26:07.260
LOCATION TO LOCATION, AND HE SAYS WHOA, I DON'T
00:26:07.280 --> 00:26:10.140
RIDE TRAINS. I'M A COWBOY, I RIDE HORSES.
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.250
JUST TELL ME WHERE TO GO.
00:26:12.270 --> 00:26:14.010
AS A 92 YEAR OLD, IT WAS REPORTED THAT HE RODE TO
00:26:14.030 --> 00:26:16.140
THE TOWNS WHERE THEY WERE, ON HIS HORSE, HE
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.160
RODE TO THOSE TOWNS TO DO THESE RALLIES.
00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:20.240
- MET THE TRAIN. DID THE RALLY.
00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:22.250
- WHEN HE WAS A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, HE WAS
00:26:22.270 --> 00:26:24.010
INTERVIEWED BY A REPORTER.
00:26:24.030 --> 00:26:25.130
IT WAS ONE DAY BEFORE HIS 101ST BIRTHDAY, AND THE
00:26:25.150 --> 00:26:27.110
REPORTER SAID SIR, AFTER YOUR AMAZING LIFE,
00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:29.140
ARE THERE ANY REGRETS YOU HAVE?
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.010
HE SAYS THERE'S ONLY ONE REGRET I HAVE, THAT I
00:26:31.030 --> 00:26:33.080
CAN'T BE WITH MY BROTHERS IN KOREA RIGHT NOW AS
00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:34.290
THEY'RE FIGHTING THIS WAR.
00:26:35.010 --> 00:26:36.140
HE SAYS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WON'T TAKE ME.
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.020
I CAN RIDE A HORSE AS GOOD AS I EVER COULD.
00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:41.000
HE SAID IN FACT, I CAN TAKE A BULL WHIP AND AT
00:26:41.020 --> 00:26:43.060
MORE THAN 20 FEET I CAN CRACK A CIGARETTE IN HALF.
00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:45.170
I COULD STILL BE USEFUL. HE DIED AT 105.
00:26:45.190 --> 00:26:50.070
BUT HIS ENTIRE LIFE IS AN AMAZING STORY!
00:26:50.090 --> 00:26:53.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:26:54.010 --> 00:26:57.140
- OKAY, IF YOU JUST TUNED IN, WE'RE TALKING
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.080
ABOUT AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY.
00:27:00.100 --> 00:27:03.090
WE HAVE A ROLL-IN NUMBER 6.
00:27:03.110 --> 00:27:06.060
THIS HAS BEEN SO AMAZING.
00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:07.280
LET'S GO AND TAKE A LITTLE PEEK AT THE
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.290
EPISODE ON BRONCO CHARLIE. WATCH THIS.
00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:13.190
- ONE OF THE THINGS FROM HISTORY IS THERE'S OLD
00:27:13.210 --> 00:27:16.000
RECRUITING POSTERS FROM THE PONY EXPRESS, AND ONE
00:27:16.020 --> 00:27:18.090
OF MY FAVORITES SAYS WANTED, YOUNG, SKINNY,
00:27:18.110 --> 00:27:20.230
WIRY FELLOWS, NOT OVER 18, MUST BE EXPERT RIDERS
00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:24.050
WILLING TO RISK DEATH DAILY, ORPHANS PREFERRED,
00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:27.020
$25 DOLLARS A WEEK.
00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:29.100
BACK IN 1860 THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:32.130
BUT IT SAYS ORPHANS PREFERRED.
00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:34.050
WHY DO YOU PREFER ORPHANS?
00:27:34.070 --> 00:27:37.000
WELL, BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS,
00:27:37.020 --> 00:27:39.140
AND WE DON'T WANT MOM OR DAD UPSET IF YOU
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:40.270
DON'T MAKE IT BACK ALIVE.
00:27:40.290 --> 00:27:42.130
- AND EVEN AT THAT, I MEAN THE FACT THEY SAID
00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:44.050
YOUNG, SKINNY, WIRY FELLOWS.
00:27:44.070 --> 00:27:46.280
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.060
WELL BECAUSE THE HORSE HAS GOT TO CARRY THE MAIL
00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:49.270
AND YOU, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN THE HORSE OUT
00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:51.290
OVER THAT 15, 20 MILES, SO THE AVERAGE WEIGHT OF
00:27:52.010 --> 00:27:54.260
A PONY EXPRESS RIDER WAS BETWEEN 100 AND 125 POUNDS.
00:27:54.280 --> 00:27:58.170
IT WOULD BE LIKE TODAY'S PROFESSIONAL JOCKEYS.
00:27:58.190 --> 00:28:00.090
THESE WERE SMALL GUYS.
00:28:00.110 --> 00:28:01.270
WE KNOW THEY WERE TOUGH GUYS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY
00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:03.210
DID ALONG THE WAY IN FIGHTING OUTLAWS AND
00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:05.180
FIGHTING INDIANS AND FIGHTING MOUNTAIN LIONS AND BEARS.
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.130
THEY WERE TOUGH, TOUGH, TOUGH GUYS, BUT THEY ARE
00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:10.270
TEENAGERS IN THE 120 TO 125 POUND RANGE.
00:28:10.290 --> 00:28:13.190
IT'S AMAZING.
00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:15.090
[APPLAUSE]
00:28:15.110 --> 00:28:19.250
- 125 POUND TOUGH GUY. I LIKE THAT.
00:28:19.270 --> 00:28:23.230
OKAY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DAVE, JUST IN CASE
00:28:23.250 --> 00:28:26.110
SOMEBODY JUST TUNED IN, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY
00:28:26.130 --> 00:28:28.060
THROUGH, JUST TELL KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.060
A NEW SERIES RIGHT HERE ON TBN, AIRS EACH WEEK.
00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:32.210
WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF GREAT STORIES.
00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:34.200
- IT'S AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY AND THIS EPISODE
00:28:34.220 --> 00:28:36.130
IS AMERICA'S HIDDEN HEROES.
00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:38.160
SO WHAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON IS
00:28:38.180 --> 00:28:40.210
WE TAKE STORIES LIKE BRONCO CHARLIE, THERE'S
00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:42.150
ABOUT 22 OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE GO WHERE
00:28:42.170 --> 00:28:45.010
THEY DID THEIR STUFF, AND YOU GET TO SEE THE STORY,
00:28:45.030 --> 00:28:47.140
YOU GET TO SEE THE ARTIFACTS AROUND IT.
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.070
THIS IS STUFF THAT WE USED TO TEACH IN HISTORY.
00:28:49.090 --> 00:28:51.150
WE NO LONGER TEACH IT TODAY IN HISTORY.
00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:53.100
AND IF WE DID, WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT
00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:55.220
PERSPECTIVE ON SO MANY THINGS.
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.190
- WHY ISN'T IT TAUGHT TODAY, DAVID?
00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.230
- AS TIM MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE SO
00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:01.220
OVER-SIMPLIFIED HISTORY DOWN TO REALLY
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.030
MAKE IT AGENDA DRIVEN.
00:29:04.050 --> 00:29:06.060
WE WANT THIS TO BE EVIL, THIS TO BE GOOD, SO WE'RE
00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:08.100
NOT GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THIS STUFF, AND WE PICK
00:29:08.120 --> 00:29:10.070
AND CHOOSE OUR HISTORY, AND IT SHOULD BE ABOUT TRUTH.
00:29:10.090 --> 00:29:13.040
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT TELLING THE TRUTH, THE
00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:14.160
GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.
00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:16.000
YOU SHOULD TELL ALL THE STORY.
00:29:16.020 --> 00:29:17.130
I CAN LEARN FROM THE BAD AND THE UGLY AS MUCH AS I
00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:19.130
CAN LEARN FROM THE GOOD, AND SO YOU PUT ALL
00:29:19.150 --> 00:29:21.140
OF IT OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE NO LONGER ABOUT
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.080
TRUTH, WE'RE ABOUT AGENDAS, AND THAT'S NOT
00:29:23.100 --> 00:29:25.120
HEALTHY FOR THE COUNTRY.
00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:27.000
- RIGHT. OKAY.
00:29:27.020 --> 00:29:28.210
DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR. OBVIOUSLY SUPER FAMOUS.
00:29:28.230 --> 00:29:31.260
WHY IS HE ONE OF THE HIDDEN HISTORY FOLK?
00:29:31.280 --> 00:29:36.100
- I WOULD POINT OUT THAT I THINK THAT ONE AIRED
00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:38.120
LAST WEEK, SO IF PEOPLE MISSED IT, THEY CAN GET
00:29:38.140 --> 00:29:40.100
ONLINE AND THEY CAN WATCH SOME OF THAT.
00:29:40.120 --> 00:29:42.000
BUT HE'S ONE OF THOSE INCREDIBLE MILITARY
00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:44.060
COMMANDERS THAT AS WE LOOK EVEN AT MODERN
00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:48.110
HISTORY BOOKS TODAY, WHEN WE COVER THINGS LIKE
00:29:48.130 --> 00:29:51.250
WORLD WAR II, YOU DON'T LEARN DEPENDING ON THE
00:29:51.270 --> 00:29:55.100
HISTORY BOOK, YOU DON'T LEARN ABOUT THE
00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.250
COMMANDERS WHO WERE INVOLVED, ABOUT THE
00:29:56.270 --> 00:29:58.180
THINGS THEY DID OR WHY THEY EVEN DID WHAT THEY DID.
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.090
AND WITH A GUY LIKE MAC ARTHUR, HIS FAITH WAS A
00:30:02.110 --> 00:30:04.090
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART OF HIS LIFE, AND WE DON'T
00:30:04.110 --> 00:30:06.280
KNOW THAT OR WHY HE WAS A PERSON OF CHARACTER AND
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.170
INTEGRITY THAT HE WAS.
00:30:09.190 --> 00:30:10.280
WHY WHEN HE SAID THAT HE LEFT THE PHILIPPINES BUT
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.100
I'M GONNA RETURN, WHAT DROVE HIM OR MOTIVATED
00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:15.200
HIM TO RETURN?
00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:17.070
WELL, HE WAS GONNA KEEP HIS WORD.
00:30:17.090 --> 00:30:18.220
THAT WAS PART OF WHAT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO.
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.080
AND FAITH WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THING AGAIN
00:30:21.100 --> 00:30:24.040
ALL THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE.
00:30:24.060 --> 00:30:25.220
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY COOL PIECE FROM HIM.
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.180
- DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR WE KNOW AS A SOLDIER.
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.030
I MEAN HE'S A FIVE STAR GENERAL.
00:30:30.050 --> 00:30:31.180
THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF THOSE EVER IN AMERICAN
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.160
HISTORY OUT OF THOUSANDS OF GENERALS.
00:30:33.180 --> 00:30:35.060
ONLY FIVE STAR JUST A FEW TIMES, SO IT'S ONE OF
00:30:35.080 --> 00:30:38.060
THOSE WE KNOW HIM FOR THAT BUT WE DON'T KNOW
00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:39.290
HIM FOR HIS FAITH OR FOR HIS FAMILY.
00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:42.040
THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING HE WROTE THAT
00:30:42.060 --> 00:30:43.210
IS NOW CALLED THE FATHER'S PRAYER.
00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:45.230
AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID.
00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:47.070
HE SAID...
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[READING]
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[READING]
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[READING]
00:31:14.060 --> 00:31:21.230
- MATT: BEAUTIFUL. WOW.
00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:23.130
[APPLAUSE]
00:31:23.150 --> 00:31:26.100
LET'S TAKE A PEAK AT THE EPISODE ON DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR.
00:31:26.120 --> 00:31:29.120
[MUSIC]
00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:39.190
- WE'RE IN WASHINGTON DC AT THE WORLD WAR II
00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:41.030
MEMORIAL, TALKING ABOUT DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR AT THE
00:31:41.050 --> 00:31:43.070
END OF WORLD WAR I, AS HE GOES TO THE PHILIPPINES
00:31:43.090 --> 00:31:45.160
AND HE'S REBUILDING THE STRENGTH OF THE
00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:47.260
PHILIPPINES, REALLY HELPING THE MILITARY.
00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:49.130
HE RETIRES AND THINKS I'M REALLY DONE
00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:50.260
WITH MILITARY SERVICE.
00:31:50.280 --> 00:31:52.250
I'VE HELPED THIS NATION, I'VE REBUILT THEIR
00:31:52.270 --> 00:31:54.280
STRENGTH AND THEIR MILITARY, AND SO HE
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.070
THINKS HE'S OUT OF THIS, BUT AS ESCALATION
00:31:57.090 --> 00:31:59.150
INTENTIONS ARE HAPPENING ACROSS EUROPE AS HITLER
00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:01.230
HAS COME TO POWER.
00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:03.050
WAR IS NOW BREAKING OUT IN EUROPE.
00:32:03.070 --> 00:32:04.210
THINGS ARE CHANGING IN AMERICA.
00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.100
- YEAH, AND THEY SEE THAT CHANGE ALSO GOING
00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:07.270
IN THE PACIFIC AREA.
00:32:07.290 --> 00:32:09.050
WHAT THE JAPANESE ARE DOING, WHAT THEY'VE DONE
00:32:09.070 --> 00:32:11.040
IN CHINA, KILLING LITERALLY MILLIONS IN CHINA.
00:32:11.060 --> 00:32:13.210
THEY'RE MOVING THROUGH THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
00:32:13.230 --> 00:32:16.010
AND AT THAT POINT, PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT
00:32:16.030 --> 00:32:18.040
RECALLS DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR TO ACTIVE DUTY.
00:32:18.060 --> 00:32:20.250
HE SAYS I WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE PHILIPPINES.
00:32:20.270 --> 00:32:22.240
HE MAKES HIM THE COMMANDER OVER ALL THE
00:32:22.260 --> 00:32:25.060
PHILIPPINES, ALL THE FAR EAST REGION.
00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:27.140
AND AT THAT POINT WHEN HE RECALLED MAC ARTHUR TO
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.150
DUTY, MAC ARTHUR WAS A TWO STAR GENERAL,
00:32:29.170 --> 00:32:31.060
MAJOR GENERAL.
00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:32.150
THE NEXT DAY ROOSEVELT MADE HIM A THREE STAR
00:32:32.170 --> 00:32:34.210
GENERAL, LIEUTENANT GENERAL.
00:32:34.230 --> 00:32:36.050
AND THEN BY THE END OF THAT MONTH
00:32:36.070 --> 00:32:37.260
HAD MADE HIM A FOUR STAR GENERAL.
00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:39.200
[APPLAUSE]
00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:41.210
- SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT-- I MEAN, ISN'T HE
00:32:41.230 --> 00:32:44.250
SUPER FAMOUS FOR THAT LINE "I SHALL RETURN".
00:32:44.270 --> 00:32:48.080
I MEAN THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH AND ALL THAT KIND
00:32:48.100 --> 00:32:50.240
OF STUFF IS REALLY KIND OF A DISMAL PERIOD THERE
00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:53.260
IN BRIEFLY IN WORLD WAR II, THE PACIFIC,
00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:56.180
AND THEN WE COME BACK.
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.040
- BUT HE IS FAMOUS FOR THAT, BUT SAYING HE'S
00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:01.190
FAMOUS WOULD DEPEND ON WHO YOU ASK BECAUSE IF
00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:04.040
YOU ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE 40 AND YOUNGER, I WOULD BET
00:33:04.060 --> 00:33:07.100
ALMOST NONE OF THEM KNOW WHO DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR
00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:09.080
WAS OR WHAT HE DID, WHAT HE CONTRIBUTED.
00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:12.080
WHICH IS WHY STUFF LIKE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT
00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:15.000
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE A NAME WE
00:33:15.020 --> 00:33:16.270
RECOGNIZE OR RECOGNIZE THE GUY WITH THE OLD
00:33:16.290 --> 00:33:19.070
CORNCOB PIPE, RIGHT? THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT
00:33:19.090 --> 00:33:21.000
HE WAS FAMOUS FOR, WE DON'T KNOW HIS STORY.
00:33:21.020 --> 00:33:23.240
- BY THE WAY LET ME ADD THAT WHEN THE NEW
00:33:23.260 --> 00:33:25.260
A.P. HISTORY STANDARDS CAME OUT,
00:33:25.280 --> 00:33:27.120
NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR A.P. HISTORY,
00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:29.020
KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THE BRIGHTEST KIDS
00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:30.260
IN HISTORY, THIS IS THE LAST COURSE THEY TAKE
00:33:30.280 --> 00:33:32.220
IN HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY, WHEN IT CAME TO WORLD WAR II,
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.040
THERE WAS NO MENTION OF DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR
00:33:35.060 --> 00:33:37.090
ANYWHERE IN THE STANDARDS, AND THIS IS
00:33:37.110 --> 00:33:39.150
FOR YOUR HISTORY KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL THE NAME
00:33:39.170 --> 00:33:42.020
DOUGLAS MAC ARTHUR DOES NOT EVEN APPEAR
00:33:42.040 --> 00:33:43.260
IN THE STANDARDS IN A.P.
00:33:43.280 --> 00:33:45.100
- AND WITH THAT, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF
00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:46.220
EISENHOWER OR PATTON OR NIMITZ. THERE WASN'T EVEN
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:49.050
A MENTION OF HITLER WHICH SEEMS LIKE A PROBLEM.
00:33:49.070 --> 00:33:51.040
- OR D-DAY OR THE HOLOCAUST.
00:33:51.060 --> 00:33:52.260
- SO THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HISTORY HAS
00:33:52.280 --> 00:33:55.060
GONE THE WRONG DIRECTION.
00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:56.130
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AMERICA'S HIDDEN HISTORY,
00:33:56.150 --> 00:33:58.160
IT DIDN'T USED TO BE HIDDEN.
00:33:58.180 --> 00:34:00.090
IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE HIDDEN, AND THESE
00:34:00.110 --> 00:34:02.240
STORIES JUST AREN'T KNOWN AND BEING TOLD.
00:34:02.260 --> 00:34:04.280
- I WANT TO ASK TOM, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.150
THE KIND OF THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSIONS.
00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.290
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIDDEN HISTORY, THE
00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:14.020
HIDDEN HEROES, AND THIS IS SEASON TWO.
00:34:14.040 --> 00:34:16.050
SEASON ONE WE KIND OF TOOK ALL OF THE NATIONAL
00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:20.200
HOLIDAYS AND WE DID THE HIDDEN HISTORY
00:34:20.220 --> 00:34:23.200
OF THE NATIONAL HOLIDAY. WHERE DID THIS DISCUSSION
00:34:23.220 --> 00:34:26.020
START TO DO THE HIDDEN HEROES? WHERE DID THIS HAPPEN?
00:34:26.040 --> 00:34:30.030
- STARTING DAVID, WE SAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT
00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:32.260
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW,
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.250
IS THAT WHENEVER THE BARTONS DO A SHOW, OUR
00:34:34.270 --> 00:34:37.040
RATINGS ARE GREAT, SO I WAS WATCHING THAT BECAUSE
00:34:37.060 --> 00:34:39.270
WHAT THESE GUYS TALK ABOUT IS INTERESTING TO
00:34:39.290 --> 00:34:42.120
PEOPLE. AND IT LIKE WAIT A MINUTE, HOW DID WE
00:34:42.140 --> 00:34:44.260
MISS ALL THIS MATERIAL?
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.030
SO IN TALKING WITH THEM, THEY ARE LITERALLY A
00:34:47.050 --> 00:34:49.130
TREASURE, A NATIONAL TREASURE AS YOU AND I
00:34:49.150 --> 00:34:51.100
HAVE DISCUSSED BECAUSE NOT ONLY THE ARCHIVES AND
00:34:51.120 --> 00:34:54.050
THINGS THAT THEY HAVE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE
00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:56.100
RELEVANCE OF MAKING HISTORY IMPORTANT TO US
00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:59.160
AS BELIEVERS, THE FOUNDATION WE HAVE IN
00:34:59.180 --> 00:35:01.260
THIS COUNTRY, IT NOT ONLY NEEDS TO BE CELEBRATED,
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.210
IT NEEDS TO BE SHOUTED ABOUT.
00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:06.200
AND IT'S TIME THAT WE BEGIN TO HEAR THESE STORIES.
00:35:06.220 --> 00:35:08.150
SO THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HERE WE ARE.
00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:10.180
- GOT IT. OKAY.
00:35:10.200 --> 00:35:12.110
SO WE'VE GOT FRANCIS SCOTT KEY AND PHILLIS
00:35:12.130 --> 00:35:16.270
WHEATLEY THAT WE NEED TO GET INTO, BUT I WANT TO
00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:18.220
THROW YOU A BIT OF A CURVE BALL.
00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:22.030
I'D THROW IT WITH THIS, BUT THIS IS SUPER HEAVY.
00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.110
- THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH TO MAKE THAT CURVE
00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:25.150
BUT YOU CAN TRY.
00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.000
- THIS IS A BRITISH-- WHAT IS IT?
00:35:27.020 --> 00:35:30.030
- CANNONBALL. THE BATTLE OF BENNINGTON 1777.
00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:33.040
- AND IT WEIGHS APPROXIMATELY WHAT? SEVEN POUNDS?
00:35:33.060 --> 00:35:36.080
- ABOUT 12 POUNDS.
00:35:36.100 --> 00:35:37.230
- TWELVE POUNDS, WOW. OKAY.
00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:39.290
WE DID A TV SHOW TOGETHER, DAVE, WAY BACK.
00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:44.190
I'M TALKING, WE'RE TALKING MID 2.000S,
00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:48.140
EARLY 2.000S MAYBE.
00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:50.180
AND THERE WAS A AMERICAN HISTORY FACT ABOUT ONE OF
00:35:50.200 --> 00:35:59.010
THE WORDS THAT DOESN'T EVER GET TALKED ABOUT
00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:02.000
ANYWHERE ANY TIME. IT'S A WORD CALLED LYNCHING.
00:36:02.020 --> 00:36:05.120
WOULD YOU EXPLAIN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
00:36:05.140 --> 00:36:09.000
EXPLAINED SOME OF THAT TO ME, I WALKED AWAY
00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:11.280
FROM THAT CHANGED.
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.000
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW SOMETHING
00:36:14.020 --> 00:36:18.000
THAT IMPORTANT. CAN YOU--
00:36:18.020 --> 00:36:20.010
- WELL, THE STORY HAD BEEN SO CHANGED.
00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:21.180
- I THINK IT WAS SO FUN.
00:36:21.200 --> 00:36:23.000
I WAS THERE WHEN WE WERE PRODUCING THIS SERIES,
00:36:23.020 --> 00:36:25.020
AND I ALMOST CALLED THE SERIES "YOU'RE KIDDING
00:36:25.040 --> 00:36:27.290
ME" BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID THAT ABOUT
00:36:28.010 --> 00:36:31.000
EVERY TEN LINES TO DAVID. YOU'RE KIDDING ME!
00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:34.110
- KIND OF SET THE STAGE OF WHAT PERIOD OF TIME
00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:36.240
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING
00:36:36.260 --> 00:36:39.040
ABOUT. I EVEN ASKED YOU ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY.
00:36:39.060 --> 00:36:41.050
- WHAT HAPPENS IS COMING INTO THE CIVIL WAR, YOU
00:36:41.070 --> 00:36:44.060
HAVE A HUGE CONFLICT BETWEEN ABOLITIONISTS AND
00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:46.170
PRO-SLAVERY FOLKS, SO THAT POLARIZES THE NATION.
00:36:46.190 --> 00:36:50.090
THERE'S NO MIDDLE GROUND, NO COMPROMISE.
00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:52.030
IT LEADS TO A CIVIL WAR.
00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:54.050
YOU CAN SAY IT'S ABOUT OTHER ECONOMIC THINGS,
00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:56.030
BUT AT ITS BASE IT CAUSED A CIVIL WAR.
00:36:56.050 --> 00:36:58.090
- WHAT YEAR EXACTLY THE CIVIL WAR START?
00:36:58.110 --> 00:37:00.050
- IT STARTED IN 1861, WENT THROUGH 1865.
00:37:00.070 --> 00:37:03.070
SO IN 1865 THROUGH 1870 AFTER THE CIVIL WAR IS
00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:06.240
OVER, YOU HAVE THREE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS
00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:09.030
ADDED TO SECURE, SAY NO MORE SLAVERY, ALL FORMER
00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:12.090
SLAVES HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS WITH EVERYONE ELSE,
00:37:12.110 --> 00:37:14.170
INCLUDING THEIR STATES, AND ALL FORMER SLAVES
00:37:14.190 --> 00:37:16.290
YOU CAN VOTE REGARDLESS OF RACE.
00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:18.240
SO IT GUARANTEES ALL THESE CIVIL RIGHTS.
00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:21.050
SO 13, 14, 15TH AMENDMENT.
00:37:21.070 --> 00:37:22.260
THEN IN THE PERIOD FROM 1870, 1876, ALL SORTS OF
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.180
CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS ARE PASSED MAKING EQUALITY.
00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:30.110
WE'D ALREADY DONE THAT IN CIVIL WAR, BLACKS AND
00:37:30.130 --> 00:37:32.100
WHITES GET PAID EQUAL, CIVIL WAR AND EQUAL
00:37:32.120 --> 00:37:34.230
JUSTICE IN THE COURTS, ETC, AND NOW YOU'RE
00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:37.010
GIVING ALL THESE ADDITIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS,
00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:39.090
ABOUT 23 CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS.
00:37:39.110 --> 00:37:41.050
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS AT THE END OF RECONSTRUCTION,
00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:44.040
1876 THERE'S A LOT OF PUSH BACK TO KEEP
00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:46.150
BLACKS FROM PROGRESSING.
00:37:46.170 --> 00:37:48.040
WHAT ARE CALLED JIM CROW LAWS, PARTICULARLY WENT
00:37:48.060 --> 00:37:50.040
THROUGH SOUTHERN STATES ABOUT ELEVEN DIFFERENT
00:37:50.060 --> 00:37:51.280
WAYS TO HOLD BLACKS BACK.
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.020
AND ONE OF THE WAYS WAS VIOLENT INTIMIDATION, AND
00:37:54.040 --> 00:37:56.150
THE MOST VIOLENT FORM OF INTIMIDATION WAS PUBLIC
00:37:56.170 --> 00:37:58.170
LYNCHINGS.
00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.130
MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SEES THAT PERSON LYNCHED RIGHT
00:38:00.150 --> 00:38:03.240
THERE TO THE TREE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.220
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE ISIS EXECUTION STUFF TO
00:38:05.240 --> 00:38:08.130
INTIMIDATE PEOPLE.
00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:10.170
AND SO BETWEEN 1882 AND 1962, THERE'S ABOUT 4800
00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:13.220
LYNCHINGS IN AMERICA.
00:38:13.240 --> 00:38:16.070
OF THOSE LYNCHINGS, 1300 ROUGHLY WERE OF
00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:20.120
WHITE GUYS, AND 3500 WERE OF BLACK FOLK.
00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:22.270
SO ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR LYNCHINGS WAS OF A WHITE
00:38:22.290 --> 00:38:26.090
PERSON WHO WAS WORKING TO HELP BLACK FOLK.
00:38:26.110 --> 00:38:29.060
I BELIEVE ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:31.260
WE HEAR TODAY THAT LYNCHING IS ALL ABOUT ATTACKING BLACK
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.070
FOLKS.
00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:36.040
AND YES, THEY WERE THE MAJORITY OF THOSE LYNCHED,
00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:38.070
BUT IT WAS ABOUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE EQUAL AND HELP
00:38:38.090 --> 00:38:40.070
MAKE CIVIL RIGHTS PART OF EQUALITY AND REALIZE WHAT
00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:45.240
MARTIN LUTHER KING TALKED ABOUT, THE PROMISE AND THE
00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:48.130
DECLARATION, ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.
00:38:48.150 --> 00:38:50.030
IF YOU BELIEVED THAT, YOU MIGHT GET LYNCHED.
00:38:50.050 --> 00:38:52.000
SO THEY LYNCHED WHITE PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEY LYNCHED BLACK
00:38:52.020 --> 00:38:54.100
PEOPLE TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE TO SAY, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO
00:38:54.120 --> 00:38:56.080
DOWN THIS PATH BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN
00:38:56.100 --> 00:38:57.210
TO YOU.
00:38:57.230 --> 00:38:59.090
- SO IF YOU WERE A WHITE PERSON THAT WAS BASICALLY
00:38:59.110 --> 00:39:03.130
FOLLOWING THE LAW AND BASICALLY FOLLOWING
00:39:03.150 --> 00:39:06.110
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:08.110
- YES.
00:39:08.130 --> 00:39:10.040
- YOU WERE IN DANGER AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME?
00:39:10.060 --> 00:39:11.290
- WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LYNCHING CARD FROM 1868 OF
00:39:12.010 --> 00:39:13.150
63 FACES.
00:39:13.170 --> 00:39:15.170
IT HAS THE PICTURES AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL 63 AND
00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:18.090
THEIR NAME ON THE BACK.
00:39:18.110 --> 00:39:20.020
THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT THE CLAN WANTS TAKEN CARE OF.
00:39:20.040 --> 00:39:22.090
NOW, ALL 63 OF THEM ARE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTH
00:39:22.110 --> 00:39:26.110
CAROLINA LEGISLATURE.
00:39:26.130 --> 00:39:28.240
50 OF THEM ARE BLACK, AND 13 OF THEM ARE WHITE.
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:31.220
THEY'RE ALL REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR WORKING FOR EQUAL
00:39:31.240 --> 00:39:34.100
RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE, AND THESE ARE THE 63 YOU NEED TO
00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:37.140
TAKE OUT, AND IT'S ABOUT THAT SAME RATIO OF 3 TO 1.
00:39:37.160 --> 00:39:40.100
THERE WERE THREE TIMES AS MANY BLACK REPUBLICAN
00:39:40.120 --> 00:39:42.220
LEGISLATORS AS THERE WERE WHITE REPUBLICAN
00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:44.230
LEGISLATORS, BUT THEY ALL NEED TO BE GONE.
00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.150
- WAIT, SO THEY WERE ALL REPUBLICANS ON THAT LIST?
00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:48.120
- ALL REPUBLICANS.
00:39:48.140 --> 00:39:50.030
ALL 63 FACES WERE OF REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS IN
00:39:50.050 --> 00:39:52.000
SOUTH CAROLINA THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN OUT BY THE CLAN.
00:39:52.020 --> 00:39:54.180
- SO IN THAT 4800 THAT ARE BEING LYNCHED, HOW MANY OF
00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:57.290
THOSE WERE REPUBLICANS?
00:39:58.010 --> 00:39:59.150
- VIRTUALLY ALL.
00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:01.060
THE RECORD INDICATE THAT THE HEARINGS IN CONGRESS, THEY
00:40:01.080 --> 00:40:03.090
HAD HEARINGS IN CONGRESS ON THIS.
00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:04.290
VIRTUALLY ALL WERE REPUBLICANS.
00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:06.190
- WHO WAS LYNCHING?
00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:08.100
- WELL, WHEN THE CLAN WOW STARTED IN 1866, 1867, THERE
00:40:08.120 --> 00:40:11.130
WERE HEARINGS IN CONGRESS.
00:40:11.150 --> 00:40:13.220
WE ACTUALLY OWN THE 13 VOLUME SET OF THE
00:40:13.240 --> 00:40:15.150
HEARINGS IN CONGRESS.
00:40:15.170 --> 00:40:17.110
THE CLAN SAID THAT THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED TO STOP AND TAKE
00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:20.210
BACK THE POWER OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE NEXT
00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:22.090
ELECTION.
00:40:22.110 --> 00:40:24.050
SO THEIR STATED PURPOSE WAS TO STOP THE REPUBLICANS
00:40:24.070 --> 00:40:26.100
BECAUSE REPUBLICANS HAVE IN THEIR PLATFORM THAT WE'RE
00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:28.210
GOING TO HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS.
00:40:28.230 --> 00:40:30.110
ABRAHAM LINCOLN WANTED EQUAL RIGHTS.
00:40:30.130 --> 00:40:31.270
FOUGHT SLAVERY.
00:40:31.290 --> 00:40:33.140
THE 13TH, 14TH, AND 15TH AMENDMENTS WERE PASSED BY
00:40:33.160 --> 00:40:35.090
THE REPUBLICANS AND THE U.S.
00:40:35.110 --> 00:40:36.240
CONGRESS.
00:40:36.260 --> 00:40:38.170
WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE SOUTH, THE FIRST 137 BLACK
00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:41.000
FOLKS ELECTED IN LOUISIANA WERE REPUBLICANS.
00:40:41.020 --> 00:40:44.190
THE FIRST 109 BLACKS ELECTED IN SOUTH CAROLINA WERE
00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:46.270
ALL REPUBLICANS.
00:40:46.290 --> 00:40:48.190
FIRST 41 BLACKS ELECTED HERE IN TEXAS WERE ALL
00:40:48.210 --> 00:40:50.110
REPUBLICANS.
00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:52.040
SO THE CLAN SAYS, WE HAVE GOT TO STOP REPUBLICANS IN
00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:54.190
THE NEXT ELECTION.
00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:56.090
CLAN SAID THAT THEY WERE ORGANIZED NOT TO STOP
00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:58.110
BLACKS, BUT TO STOP REPUBLICANS BECAUSE AT THAT
00:40:58.130 --> 00:41:00.260
POINT IN TIME, VIRTUALLY ALL BLACKS WERE REPUBLICANS.
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:03.180
SO THAT'S THE STORY OF LYNCHING NO ONE HEARS TODAY.
00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.220
- THEIR END GOAL CERTAINLY WAS TO STOP THE BLACKS, BUT
00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:08.060
WHO'S PROMOTING THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE BLACKS?
00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:11.010
IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
00:41:11.030 --> 00:41:12.220
SO THE CLAN'S IDEA WAS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:14.110
MAINTAIN OUR RACIST POSITION AND SUPPRESS BLACK, WELL,
00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:17.280
THEN WE HAVE TO STOP THE REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THEY'RE
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.110
THE ONES ADVOCATING FOR THE RIGHTS OF BLACKS, WHICH IS
00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:22.110
WHERE ALL THE LYNCHINGS COME IN.
00:41:22.130 --> 00:41:24.010
- OKAY, YOU REALIZE THAT YOU JUST TOLD VIRTUALLY
00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:28.170
180 DEGREE STORY OF WHAT AMERICAN POLITICS, IN
00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:34.150
ESSENCE, FEELS LIKE TODAY.
00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:37.010
WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED?
00:41:37.030 --> 00:41:41.180
- AGAIN, TRUTH IS THE OBJECTIVE FOR HISTORY AND
00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:44.260
HISTORIANS, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.230
DOCUMENTS, AND YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL HEARINGS, AND YOU
00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:50.200
HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF THE CLAN AND OF THE VICTIMS, AND
00:41:50.220 --> 00:41:53.190
YOU HAVE THE CARD THE CLAN PUTS OUT, I MEAN --
00:41:53.210 --> 00:41:56.260
- YOU HAVE EVIDENCE.
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.160
- WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY?
00:41:58.180 --> 00:42:00.050
THE EVIDENCE IS THERE.
00:42:00.070 --> 00:42:01.230
- OKAY, SO LET ME JUST EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU.
00:42:01.250 --> 00:42:03.250
DAVID BARTON KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS
00:42:03.270 --> 00:42:06.170
ENTIRE SERIES, SEASON ONE AND SEASON TWO, IS VITAL.
00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:13.090
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE HEARING.
00:42:13.110 --> 00:42:15.210
I HAVE A MENTAL PICTURE OF SOMEBODY SITTING ON A COUCH
00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:20.150
RIGHT NOW WATCHING THIS GOING, WHAT THE HECK DID
00:42:20.170 --> 00:42:23.120
DAVE JUST SAY?
00:42:23.140 --> 00:42:25.100
- YOU SHOULD HAVE NAMED YOUR SERIES "WHAT THE HECK?"
00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:27.010
- I KNOW.
00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:28.210
- LITERALLY, YOU JUST TOLD A STORY THAT'S, DAVE, KIND
00:42:28.230 --> 00:42:33.080
OF HARD TO BELIEVE, OKAY?
00:42:33.100 --> 00:42:36.070
BUT I'VE SEEN THOSE CARDS IN YOUR OFFICE MYSELF.
00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.240
I'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS EVIDENCE, BUT THAT IS WHAT
00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:43.040
WAS HAPPENING OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
00:42:43.060 --> 00:42:45.280
- CAN I DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK?
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.170
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT TO GO BACK AND FACT CHECK AND
00:42:48.190 --> 00:42:51.060
LOOK AT SOME OF THESE THINGS, PLEASE DOWNLOAD THE
00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:53.070
TBN APP.
00:42:53.090 --> 00:42:55.180
THE SERIES HAS ALREADY BEEN PLAYING.
00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:57.220
THE SHOWS WILL BE PLAYING.
00:42:57.240 --> 00:42:59.150
WITHIN 48 HOURS AFTER IT AIRS ON THE NETWORK, YOU CAN
00:42:59.170 --> 00:43:01.140
GO TO THE TBN APP.
00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:03.090
YOU CAN PUT IN WALL BUILDER OR DAVID BARTON.
00:43:03.110 --> 00:43:06.070
IT WILL COME UP, AND YOU CAN WATCH THESE EPISODES, TALK
00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:09.000
ABOUT THEM.
00:43:09.020 --> 00:43:10.130
YOU CAN EVEN SEND THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE.
00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:11.280
SO PLEASE, DOWNLOAD THE APP AND USE IT.
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.140
- YEAH, YOU CAN GET IT ON YOUR PHONE OR YOUR LAPTOP
00:43:13.160 --> 00:43:15.200
AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
00:43:15.220 --> 00:43:17.080
- AND ONE OF THE REASONS EVEN TELLING SOME OF THESE
00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:19.050
STORIES BECOME SO SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE EVEN
00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:21.160
THE WAY WE LOOK AT AMERICAN, KIND OF THE BIRTH OF
00:43:21.180 --> 00:43:24.160
AMERICA, IF YOU GO BACK TO 1776, THE AMERICAN
00:43:24.180 --> 00:43:25.260
REVOLUTION.
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.180
HERE'S WHERE IT GETS CRAZY BECAUSE HISTORY BOOKS TODAY
00:43:27.200 --> 00:43:30.170
DEPICT AMERICA AS BEING A WHITE REVOLUTION WHERE WHITE
00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:33.180
AMERICANS FOUGHT THE WHITE BRITISH.
00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:35.230
LET ME JUST BLOW SOMEBODY'S MIND FOR A SECOND.
00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:37.260
WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO DIED IN THE BIRTH OF THE
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:41.090
AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:43.070
WHO'S DEATH STARTED THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION?
00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:44.220
THAT'S CRISPUS ATTUCKS.
00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:46.100
CRISPUS ATTUCKS WAS A BLACK MAN.
00:43:46.120 --> 00:43:49.030
HE WAS A MAN WHO ESCAPED FROM SLAVERY, WENT TO AN
00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:51.000
ANTI-SLAVERY COLONY WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO LIVE IN
00:43:51.020 --> 00:43:53.180
MASSACHUSETTS, AND THAT'S WHERE HAD YOU JOHN ADAMS AND
00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:56.020
SAMUEL ADAMS AND JOHN HANCOCK.
00:43:56.040 --> 00:43:58.110
AND SO THE SONS OF LIBERTY.
00:43:58.130 --> 00:44:00.110
SO HERE THERE AT THE BOSTON MASSACRE.
00:44:00.130 --> 00:44:02.100
HE'S THE FIRST ONE KILLED IN BOSTON MASSACRE.
00:44:02.120 --> 00:44:04.050
THIS IS WHAT SETS OFF THE BEGINNING OF THE AMERICAN
00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:05.240
REVOLUTION.
00:44:05.260 --> 00:44:07.200
HOW DOES THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION COME TO AN END?
00:44:07.220 --> 00:44:09.210
ACTUALLY, THE LAST MAJOR BATTLE IS THE BATTLE OF
00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:12.130
YORKTOWN WHICH IS WHERE WE DEFEAT LORD CORNWALLIS.
00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:14.290
AFTER THIS, ITS BIT I SHALL HAVE THOROUGHLY BEEN
00:44:15.010 --> 00:44:17.050
TROUNCED, AND NOW IT'S JUST A PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION TO
00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:19.090
FIGURE OUT THE PEACE TREATY.
00:44:19.110 --> 00:44:21.050
HOW DID WE BOTTLE UP CORNWALLIS?
00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:22.250
WELL, THERE WAS A MAN WHOSE NAME WAS JAMES ARMISTEAD.
00:44:22.270 --> 00:44:25.190
JAMES ARMISTEAD WOW THE FIRST DOUBLE SPY
00:44:25.210 --> 00:44:28.130
IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
00:44:28.150 --> 00:44:30.060
HE WAS A BLACK MAN WHO BECAME FRIENDS WITH MARQUIS
00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:32.020
LAFAYETTE WHO WAS A FRENCH MAJOR GENERAL, CAME TO
00:44:32.040 --> 00:44:33.250
AMERICA, AND MARQUIS, VERY ANTI-SLAVERY AT THE TIME.
00:44:33.270 --> 00:44:37.000
JAMES ARMISTEAD WOW A SLAVE AT THE TIME, BUT HE WAS ONE
00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:39.210
OF THE SLAVES WHO WAS FIGHTING AND WANTING TO GET
00:44:39.230 --> 00:44:41.140
FREE BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO GET GIVE HIS SERVICE
00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:43.110
TO THE NATION.
00:44:43.130 --> 00:44:44.270
HE AND LAYFAYETTE BEGAN TALKING, AND THEY SAID,
00:44:44.290 --> 00:44:46.170
YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:44:46.190 --> 00:44:48.060
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEN, ENOUGH SUPPLIES, OR ENOUGH
00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:50.180
INTELLIGENCE TO DEFEAT THE BRITISH.
00:44:50.200 --> 00:44:52.100
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED UNLESS WE CAN
00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:54.110
CHANGE SOMETHING.
00:44:54.130 --> 00:44:55.270
SO THEY COME UP WITH IN IDEA THAT JAMES WILL PRETEND TO
00:44:55.290 --> 00:44:58.150
BE AN ESCAPED SLAVE AND GO TO THE BRITISH CAMP SEEKING
00:44:58.170 --> 00:45:01.140
REFUGE FROM THE BRITISH, AND HE'LL JUST LISTEN TO ALL OF
00:45:01.160 --> 00:45:04.060
THEIR PLANS AND SEND THE REPORTS BACK.
00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:06.090
- OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:07.290
- HE GOES INTO THE BRITISH CAMP.
00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:09.160
HE SPIES IN THE BRITISH CAMP.
00:45:09.180 --> 00:45:10.290
ACTUALLY, WHILE HE'S THERE, HE'S SERVING BECAUSE HE
00:45:11.010 --> 00:45:12.090
WANTS TO BE WELL RECEIVED.
00:45:12.110 --> 00:45:13.190
HE STARTS SERVING IN THE BRITISH CAMP.
00:45:13.210 --> 00:45:15.160
THE BRITISH OFFICERS SEE HIM SERVING AND THINK, WELL, A
00:45:15.180 --> 00:45:17.050
GUY THAT SERVES THAT WELL SHOULDN'T BE SERVING
00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:19.100
THE COMMON TROOP.
00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:20.290
LET'S BRING HIM TO THE OFFICER'S TENT.
00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:23.250
SO HE STARTED SERVING IN THE OFFICER'S TENT.
00:45:23.270 --> 00:45:25.220
HE WAS MADE THE PERSONAL ASSISTANT OF BENEDICT ARNOLD
00:45:25.240 --> 00:45:27.200
WHO WAS THE FAMOUS AMERICAN TRAITOR, OKAY?
00:45:27.220 --> 00:45:31.080
- SO EVERY DAY HE'S HEARING THE GENERALS TALK, AND GUESS
00:45:31.100 --> 00:45:35.180
WHAT HE GIVES TO GEORGE WASHINGTON AND LAYFAYETTE
00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:38.060
EVERY NIGHT? WHAT THE BRITISH ARE DOING.
00:45:38.080 --> 00:45:40.240
- HE IS THE GUY WHO IS REPORTED FOR BEING
00:45:40.260 --> 00:45:43.180
RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING GEORGE WASHINGTON THE
00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:45.130
INFORMATION THAT LED TO THE DEFEAT OF CORNWALLIS.
00:45:45.150 --> 00:45:48.190
THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION STARTED BECAUSE OF THE DEATH
00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:50.280
OF A BLACK MAN AND ARGUABLY ENDED BECAUSE OF THE
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.110
INTELLIGENCE OF A BLACK MAN.
00:45:53.130 --> 00:45:55.040
- AND ONE MORE LITTLE CAVEAT TO PUT IN.
00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:56.220
NOT ONLY IS HE GETTING GOOD INFORMATION
00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:58.100
BACK TO WASHINGTON.
00:45:58.120 --> 00:45:59.290
BRITISH COMMANDER CORNWALLIS GOES TO JAMES AND SAYS,
00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:01.220
JAMES, I KNOW YOU HATE THE AMERICANS, BUT WE
00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:03.170
REALLY NEED HELP.
00:46:03.190 --> 00:46:05.190
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SPY ON THE AMERICANS FOR US AND
00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:07.210
GIVE US THE INFORMATION?
00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:09.220
SO HE FEEDS BAD INFORMATION TO THE BRITISH AND HE FEEDS
00:46:09.240 --> 00:46:12.110
GOOD INFORMATION TO THE AMERICANS.
00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:14.000
WE GET HIM TRAPPED OUT THERE, GET
00:46:14.020 --> 00:46:16.070
CORNWALLIS TRAPPED.
00:46:16.090 --> 00:46:18.030
- HE'S THE FIRST DOUBLE SPY IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
00:46:18.050 --> 00:46:19.250
ALSO, HE THEN DOES GET HIS FREEDOM.
00:46:19.270 --> 00:46:22.060
LAYFAYETTE ADOPTS HIM, SO HE BECOMES JAMES ARMISTEAD
00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:26.020
LAYFAYETTE, ADOPTION REALLY JUST IN NAME AND
00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:29.120
LAYFAYETTE HELPS SUPPORT HIM FINANCIALLY.
00:46:29.140 --> 00:46:31.180
BUT REALLY, AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING STORY, BUT THE
00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:33.200
REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:35.270
TRUE STORY OF AMERICA, IT IS THE STORY NOT ALL
00:46:35.290 --> 00:46:39.010
THAT DIFFERENT FROM EVEN A BIBLE STORY.
00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:41.050
IT'S A STORY OF VERY IMPERFECT PEOPLE, AND YET
00:46:41.070 --> 00:46:44.000
GOD IS USING SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO MANY PLACES.
00:46:44.020 --> 00:46:47.290
AMERICA'S STORY IS NOT JUST A WHITE PERSON'S STORY.
00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:51.140
- LOOK, THE FIRST BLACK ELECTED OFFICE IN AMERICA
00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:54.140
WAS 1768 IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:56.160
HE SERVED FOR THE NEXT NEARLY 40 YEARS,
00:46:56.180 --> 00:46:59.170
WAS ELECTED IN NINE DIFFERENT POLITICAL POSITIONS.
00:46:59.190 --> 00:47:01.200
WE NEVER HEAR OF WENTWORTH CHESWELL.
00:47:01.220 --> 00:47:03.190
THE FIRST SEAL TEAM MISSION, IF YOU WILL, A BLACK PATRIOT
00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:06.050
JACK SISSON WAS THE HERO OF THAT SEAL
00:47:06.070 --> 00:47:08.010
TEAM MISSION IN 1778.
00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:09.170
I MEAN, I TAKE YOU THROUGH ALL SORTS OF BLACK HEROES
00:47:09.190 --> 00:47:11.260
FROM THE REVOLUTION.
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.080
WE DON'T GET THIS TODAY.
00:47:13.110 --> 00:47:14.260
- AND IT'S BECAUSE AMERICA ALWAYS HAD ALL KINDS OF
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.090
DIVERSITY IN THE NATION.
00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:19.010
CERTAINLY WE WERE PRIMARILY A WHITE NATION.
00:47:19.030 --> 00:47:20.260
THAT'S OBVIOUS, WE CAN LOOK AND KNOW IT'S TRUE, BUT THIS
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.140
AGAIN IS WHERE, BECAUSE WE KNOW SO LITTLE HISTORY,
00:47:24.160 --> 00:47:27.170
WE'VE LOST SO MANY THINGS ALONG THE WAY THAT WE DON'T
00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:31.160
KNOW HOW MANY HEROES OR HEROINES, IF YOU WILL, RIGHT?
00:47:31.180 --> 00:47:34.200
THE MEN AND THE WOMEN, THE CHILDREN, THE
00:47:34.220 --> 00:47:36.140
BOYS, THE GIRLS.
00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:38.030
OUR STORY, ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY FILLED WITH SIN
00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:42.080
MANY MOMENTS IN OUR HISTORY, IT STILL IS A STORY OF
00:47:42.100 --> 00:47:45.000
GOD USING PEOPLE, AN AMAZING STORY OF REDEMPTION
00:47:45.020 --> 00:47:48.000
OF GOD TAKING BROKENNESS AND DOING
00:47:48.020 --> 00:47:50.150
SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.
00:47:50.170 --> 00:47:52.040
- THAT'S RIGHT, I LOVE THAT.
00:47:52.060 --> 00:47:53.120
IT'S AMAZING, BEAUTIFUL.
00:47:53.140 --> 00:47:55.070
[APPLAUSE]
00:47:55.090 --> 00:47:59.110
- IN FACT, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH RESPECT
00:47:59.130 --> 00:48:01.210
LOST FOR EACH OTHER.
00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:04.140
IT'S JUST SO HEARTBREAKING TO ME.
00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:08.030
- WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:10.040
- LOOK, I LOVE THESE STORIES. I LOVE THIS CONCEPT.
00:48:10.060 --> 00:48:14.000
I LOVE THESE TV SHOWS THAT YOU GUYS ARE CREATING.
00:48:14.020 --> 00:48:16.250
I THINK YOU ONLY MISSPOKE ONE THING.
00:48:16.270 --> 00:48:19.270
YOU SAID JOHN HANCOCK.
00:48:19.290 --> 00:48:21.160
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS HERBIE HANCOCK.
00:48:21.180 --> 00:48:22.260
- HERBIE, I'VE SEEN THAT MOVIE.
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.110
- YEAH, OKAY, SORRY.
00:48:25.130 --> 00:48:27.290
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE LIKE TEN MINUTES,
00:48:28.010 --> 00:48:30.180
A LITTLE LESS THAN, OKAY?
00:48:30.200 --> 00:48:32.180
SO YOU GOT TO GIVE ABOUT TWO MINUTES TO FRANCIS SCOTT KEY
00:48:32.200 --> 00:48:37.050
AND A COUPLE MINUTES TO PHILLIS WHEATON REAL QUICK.
00:48:37.070 --> 00:48:39.030
- SURE, FRANCIS SCOTT KEY, INTERESTING GUY.
00:48:39.050 --> 00:48:41.010
NOW, HE IS KNOWN IN THE NEWS AS A BAD GUY BECAUSE HE'S
00:48:41.030 --> 00:48:44.040
THE GUY WHO DID THE NATIONAL ANTHEM STAR SPANGLED BANNER,
00:48:44.060 --> 00:48:48.000
AND OF COURSE IN THE THIRD STANZA,
00:48:48.020 --> 00:48:50.160
HE TALKS ABOUT SLAVERY.
00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:52.150
SO HE'S A BAD GUY, SO NOW YOU SEE FOR EXAMPLE IN
00:48:52.170 --> 00:48:56.000
BALTIMORE, THERE IS A BIG STATUE OF FRANCIS SCOTT KEY
00:48:56.020 --> 00:48:58.160
WHO DID THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. IT'S BEEN DEFACED.
00:48:58.180 --> 00:49:00.230
IT'S PAINTED OVER.
00:49:00.250 --> 00:49:02.240
THEY'VE NOW HAD TO BLOCK IT OFF AND TRY TO REPAIR IT, SO
00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:04.220
HE'S UNDER ATTACK. IT'S AN INTERESTING THING.
00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:06.130
FRANCIS SCOTT KEY WAS THE NATIONAL LEADER OF AN
00:49:06.150 --> 00:49:09.110
ANTI-SLAVERY ABOLITION MOVEMENT.
00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:11.220
HE WENT TO COURT ON BEHALF OF SLAVE AND MORE THAN 200
00:49:11.240 --> 00:49:15.140
SLAVE OWED THEIR FREEDOM TO HIM.
00:49:15.160 --> 00:49:17.180
MORE THAN A HUNDRED CASES WENT TO COURT WHERE HE
00:49:17.200 --> 00:49:20.020
ARGUED IN THOSE CASES.
00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:21.150
HE WAS SO MUCH ARGUING FOR SLAVES THAT HE WAS KNOWN BY
00:49:21.170 --> 00:49:24.280
THE NEWSPAPERS AS THE "N" LAWYER.
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.180
OH, HE'S AN "N" GUY.
00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:29.190
I MEAN, HERE'S A GUY WHO DID YOU SO MUCH FOR EQUAL RIGHTS
00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:33.090
AND FIGHTS SO MUCH TO END SLAVERY AND WANTS BLACK TO
00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:36.170
BE FREE AND EQUAL.
00:49:36.190 --> 00:49:38.090
AND TODAY, WE LOOK AT HIM AND SAY, OH, HE DID THE
00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:39.280
NATIONAL ANTHEM, HE'S A RACIST.
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.160
- COMPLETE FAKE NEWS, I MEAN, LITERALLY.
00:49:41.180 --> 00:49:43.190
- SURE.
00:49:43.210 --> 00:49:45.090
- IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHO HE WAS.
00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:47.000
- HE WASN'T A PERFECT GUY, WHICH SOME TIME PEOPLE WANT
00:49:47.020 --> 00:49:49.030
TO POINT OUT IMPERFECTIONS AND SAY, OH, LOOK, HE DID
00:49:49.050 --> 00:49:51.120
THAT WRONG. HE'S NOT A GOOD GUY.
00:49:51.140 --> 00:49:53.080
OKAY, NO, HE WAS NOT A PERFECT GUY,
00:49:53.100 --> 00:49:54.250
AND THERE'S MOMENTS --
00:49:54.270 --> 00:49:56.100
- HE WAS AI HUMAN, STRANGE THING, IMAGINE THAT.
00:49:56.120 --> 00:49:57.280
- WE CAN POINT TO HIS LIFE AND GO OH, THAT WASN'T GOOD.
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.110
BUT EVEN IN THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, THE THIRD VERSE
00:50:00.130 --> 00:50:02.090
WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THE ENSLAVEMENT, HE ACTUALLY WAS
00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:04.240
TALKING TO BRITISH WHERE THEY WOULD CAPTURE
00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:08.120
AMERICANS, KIND OF BONK THEM ON THE HEAD,
00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:10.060
CARRY THEM TO THE SHIPS.
00:50:10.080 --> 00:50:11.240
- IMPRESSMENT.
00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.240
- AND THEY WOULD MAKE THEM BE THESE SAILORS
00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:15.100
ON THE SHIP.
00:50:15.120 --> 00:50:16.210
IF THEY ACTED OUT, THEY'D BE BEATEN,
00:50:16.230 --> 00:50:18.020
THEY'D BE SHOT, THEY'D BE WHIPPED, WHATEVER HAPPENED.
00:50:18.040 --> 00:50:19.170
SO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WANTING FREEDOM FROM THE
00:50:19.190 --> 00:50:21.000
BRITISH OPPRESSING THE AMERICANS, BUT IT HAD
00:50:21.020 --> 00:50:24.030
NOTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY.
00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:26.030
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY,
00:50:26.050 --> 00:50:28.050
WE DON'T RECOGNIZE.
00:50:28.070 --> 00:50:29.210
THIS ACTUALLY WAS AN ANTI-SLAVERY GUY.
00:50:29.230 --> 00:50:31.120
NOW, HE WAS NOT A PERFECT GUY, AND THERE'S MOMENTS
00:50:31.140 --> 00:50:33.000
AGAIN IN HIS LIFE THAT WE CAN POINT TO AND IF, OKAY,
00:50:33.020 --> 00:50:34.230
THAT WAS REAL EYE WRONG. THAT WASN'T GOOD.
00:50:34.250 --> 00:50:36.240
HE NEEDED JESUS A LITTLE MORE IN THAT MOMENT.
00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:38.240
THAT WAS NOT GOOD , BUT.
00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:40.290
- WATCH THE EPISODE ON AMERICA'S HIDDEN HEROES.
00:50:41.010 --> 00:50:43.290
- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT THE NATIONAL
00:50:44.010 --> 00:50:47.120
ANTHEM WAS PRINTED.
00:50:47.140 --> 00:50:48.290
THAT'S THE FIRST PRINTING EVER OF THE STAR SPANGLED
00:50:49.010 --> 00:50:50.220
BANNER, AND IT'S GOT ALL FOUR VERSES THERE INCLUDING
00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:53.140
THE ONE THAT TALK ABOUT SLAVERY.
00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:55.210
AND WHEN YOU READ IT IN CONTEXT, YOU GO,
00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:57.200
I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM. EXACTLY.
00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:59.050
IF YOU KNOW THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY AND HIS LIFE.
00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:02.100
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN WHAT WE SEE AS
00:51:02.120 --> 00:51:03.230
THE NARRATIVE TODAY.
00:51:03.250 --> 00:51:05.000
- PHILLIS WHEATLEY.
00:51:05.020 --> 00:51:06.190
- OKAY, PHYLLIS WHEATLEY SOMEONE WHO CAME TO AMERICA
00:51:06.210 --> 00:51:08.160
AS A SLAVE. SHE WAS SIX YEARS OLD.
00:51:08.180 --> 00:51:10.120
ACTUALLY, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE OF HER AGE.
00:51:10.140 --> 00:51:12.030
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RECORDS OF IT.
00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:13.210
SHE CAME FROM SENEGAL AFRICA.
00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:15.080
WHEN SHE TO THE TO AMERICA, THERE WAS A FAMILY, A WHITE
00:51:15.100 --> 00:51:17.130
FAMILY, SAW HER AND PRESUMABLY THE DAD THOUGHT I
00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:20.100
DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS SIX YEAR-OLD GO INTO SLAVERY.
00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:22.270
SO HE BOUGHT HER, BROUGHT HER HOME TO
00:51:22.290 --> 00:51:24.230
LIVE WITH THE FAMILY.
00:51:24.250 --> 00:51:26.110
HE HAS A COUPLE OF KIDS AND SAYS, I WANT YOU TO START
00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:28.120
TEACHING HER EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN
00:51:28.140 --> 00:51:30.160
LEARNING IN SCHOOL. SO THEY BEGIN TEACHING HER.
00:51:30.180 --> 00:51:32.020
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE LEARNED TO DO.
00:51:32.040 --> 00:51:35.010
THIS IS A BOOK OF POETRY FROM PHILLIS WHEATLEY.
00:51:35.030 --> 00:51:37.240
PHILLIS WHEATLEY WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN
00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:40.120
FEMALE EVER TO HAVE PUBLISHED POETRY, AND SHE
00:51:40.140 --> 00:51:42.160
DID IT AT A TIME WHEN SHE TECHNICALLY WAS STILL A
00:51:42.180 --> 00:51:44.170
SLAVE, EVEN THOUGH THE FAMILY TREATED HER VERY WELL.
00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:46.050
SHE WAS A SLAVE, AND SHE WAS A BLACK WOMAN
00:51:46.070 --> 00:51:48.080
WHO WAS A SLAVE.
00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:49.260
SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF STANDING AT THAT
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.140
POINT, ARGUABLE IN AMERICA, SHE'S THE LOWEST, AND YET,
00:51:52.160 --> 00:51:55.190
HER TALENT WAS IMPRESSIVE THAT SHE WOW
00:51:55.210 --> 00:51:57.290
A PUBLISHED POETESS.
00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:00.090
WELL, SHE DID END UP GETTING HER FREEDOM, AND THE FAMILY
00:52:00.110 --> 00:52:02.220
SUPPORTED HER AND LOVED HER ALL THE ALONG THE WAY.
00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:04.140
SHE WAS SO FAMOUS.
00:52:04.160 --> 00:52:06.060
SHE PERFORMED POETRY BEFORE GEORGE WASHINGTON, BEFORE
00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.090
GEORGE WHITFIELD, A LOT OF REALLY COOL
00:52:08.110 --> 00:52:11.030
STUFF IN HER LIFE.
00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:12.290
AND TODAY, MOST PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD THE NAME PHILLIS
00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:14.280
WHEATLEY, BUT SHE IS SOMEONE, AS MANY THE STORIES
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.050
WE TELL, THEY BROKE THE MOLD IN THE ERA THEY LIVED IN
00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:21.140
BASED ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:23.050
THEY WERE DIFFERENT.
00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:24.270
THEY ROSE ABOVE IT, AND THIS IS THE FIRST POETRY EVER
00:52:24.290 --> 00:52:27.040
PUBLISHED BY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN
00:52:27.060 --> 00:52:28.220
HERE IN AMERICA.
00:52:28.240 --> 00:52:30.110
- I LOVE THAT.
00:52:30.130 --> 00:52:32.000
OKAY, DAVID BARTON, WE TALKED ABOUT AMERICA'S
00:52:32.020 --> 00:52:35.280
HIDDEN HISTORY, SEASON ONE WAS KIND OF THE DATES OF ALL
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.190
THE NATIONAL HOLIDAYS.
00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:42.060
SEASON TWO IS THESE HEROES.
00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:44.190
WHAT MIGHT SEASON THREE BE?
00:52:44.210 --> 00:52:48.070
- THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, TOM.
00:52:48.090 --> 00:52:50.040
WHAT MIGHT SEASON THREE BE?
00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:51.210
- WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT JUST SOME
00:52:51.230 --> 00:52:53.200
OF THE AGENDA. - TIM?
00:52:53.220 --> 00:52:58.000
- WHAT DO YOU GUYS SPEND MOST OF YOUR TIME NEEDING TO
00:52:58.020 --> 00:53:01.260
GET INFORMATION OUT.
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.130
I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES HERE.
00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.050
- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, EVEN FOR THIS SEASON WE'RE IN THE
00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:07.140
MIDDLE OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAD A HUNDRED PLUS NAMES, AND WE
00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:10.010
JUST REACHED INTO THE HAT AND PULLED OUT A FEW.
00:53:10.030 --> 00:53:12.000
SO WE VERY EASILY COULD DO A FEW MORE SEASONS JUST OF
00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:14.090
SOME OF THE HEROES THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE NAMES.
00:53:14.110 --> 00:53:15.290
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH HISTORY THAT HAS BEEN LOST NOW,
00:53:16.010 --> 00:53:19.020
WHETHER WE TALK ABOUT MILITARY LEADERS -- YOU
00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:21.250
REALLY COULD PICK A TOPIC, RIGHT?
00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:23.150
WHETHER IT'S MILITARY OR MUSIC OR PRESIDENTS.
00:53:23.170 --> 00:53:25.080
WE JUST DON'T KNOW MUCH OF ANYTHING ANYMORE, BUT WHAT
00:53:25.100 --> 00:53:27.220
WE WANT TO SEE IN AMERICA IS PEOPLE THAT COME BACK
00:53:27.240 --> 00:53:30.170
SAYING, WE WANT TO LOOK PAST AGENDA AND SAY WHAT IS TRUE?
00:53:30.190 --> 00:53:33.250
IT IS TRUE THAT OUR NATION WAS NOT PERFECT.
00:53:33.270 --> 00:53:36.210
IN FACT, THERE WERE SOME REALLY BAD, AWFUL, AND EVIL
00:53:36.230 --> 00:53:38.290
PEOPLE THAT EVEN WERE LEADERS OF OUR NATION AT
00:53:39.010 --> 00:53:40.270
DIFFERENT TIMES IN OUR HISTORY.
00:53:40.290 --> 00:53:42.140
BUT THERE ALSO WERE SOME REALLY GOOD SEEKING,
00:53:42.160 --> 00:53:45.040
GOD-FEARING, GREAT, HUMBLE HEARTED PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO
00:53:45.060 --> 00:53:48.000
DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
00:53:48.020 --> 00:53:49.170
AND IF WE JUST START LOOKING AND SAY, WHAT IS TRUE?
00:53:49.190 --> 00:53:52.000
IT WOULD CHANGE OUR DYNAMIC AND PERSPECTIVE ALMOST THE
00:53:52.020 --> 00:53:54.150
SAME AS IF WE LOOKED AT SCRIPTURE AND SAID, OKAY,
00:53:54.170 --> 00:53:56.080
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? AND LET ME LIVE BY IT.
00:53:56.100 --> 00:53:59.030
WHAT OUR AGENDA IS IS REALLY WE WANT TO PROMOTE PEOPLE TO
00:53:59.050 --> 00:54:01.150
PURSUE WHAT IS TRUE.
00:54:01.170 --> 00:54:03.230
SO THAT'S WHY TELLING THESE STORIES IS JUST GIVING THESE
00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:06.080
PEOPLE A TASTE TO GO, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ELSE
00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:08.090
IS OUT THERE.
00:54:08.110 --> 00:54:10.000
WHAT MORE HAVE I NOT LEARNED?
00:54:10.020 --> 00:54:11.110
AND HOPEFULLY STIR UP IN THEM A PURSUIT OF TRUTH.
00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:14.140
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COOL ABOUT SCRIPTURE IS
00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:16.260
JESUS SAID THERE'S ONE THING THAT TRUTH DOES
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.240
THAT NOTHING ELSE DOES.
00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:21.130
TRUTH SETS PEOPLE FREE, RIGHT?
00:54:21.150 --> 00:54:22.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:54:23.010 --> 00:54:29.080
- I LITERALLY WAS WATCHING ANDREW WOMACK
00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:31.050
TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:54:31.070 --> 00:54:32.270
IT'S ONE THING TO GO AROUND AND PRAY FOR PEOPLE.
00:54:32.290 --> 00:54:35.010
IT'S ANOTHER TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TO PEOPLE BECAUSE
00:54:35.030 --> 00:54:36.270
THE TRUTH IS WHAT SETS PEOPLE FREE.
00:54:36.290 --> 00:54:38.220
SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT EXACTLY WHERE I WANTED TO GO
00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:43.040
BECAUSE THIS IS TRUTH, AND THIS SETS PEOPLE FREE.
00:54:43.060 --> 00:54:46.000
THIS SETS NATIONS FREE, THIS KIND OF TRUTH.
00:54:46.020 --> 00:54:48.170
- DAVE, TWO MINUTES LEFT IN THE BROADCAST.
00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:52.150
IF YOU THINK BACK TO SEASON ONE AND SEASON TWO, MOST OF
00:54:52.170 --> 00:54:57.160
OUR NATIONAL HOLIDAYS, A LOT OF THESE HEROES, WHAT IS THE
00:54:57.180 --> 00:55:03.130
OVER ARCHING THING YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL
00:55:03.150 --> 00:55:06.200
THE VIEWING AUDIENCE?
00:55:06.220 --> 00:55:08.170
WHY DO THEY NEED TO WATCH THIS SERIES?
00:55:08.190 --> 00:55:10.080
- YOU GET INSPIRATIONAL HEROES.
00:55:10.100 --> 00:55:12.220
I'M A WHITE GUY, AND I SPEAK IN BLACK CHURCHES ALL THE
00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:15.010
TIME DOING BLACK HISTORY, BUT THE POINT IS THAT'S
00:55:15.030 --> 00:55:17.140
AMERICAN HISTORY. THEY ARE AMERICANS. THEY'RE MY HEROES.
00:55:17.160 --> 00:55:20.180
SO I CAN'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A LADY.
00:55:20.200 --> 00:55:23.080
I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S A YOUNG PERSON.
00:55:23.100 --> 00:55:24.290
I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S BLACK OR WHITE.
00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:26.150
THEY'RE MY HEROES.
00:55:26.170 --> 00:55:28.030
I CAN LEARN SOMETHING FROM THEIR LIVES, SO WHAT I'M
00:55:28.050 --> 00:55:30.010
LOOKING FOR IS APPLICATION.
00:55:30.030 --> 00:55:31.110
[APPLAUSE]
00:55:31.130 --> 00:55:34.110
SO APPLICATION IS WHAT WE WANT.
00:55:34.130 --> 00:55:35.270
WHEN YOU KNOW TRUTH, AND YOU SEE THAT AND YOU SAY,
00:55:35.290 --> 00:55:38.190
I CAN DO THAT. I CAN BE THAT.
00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:40.150
WOW, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:41.210
I'LL TRY THAT.
00:55:41.230 --> 00:55:43.100
THERE IS SO MUCH THAT WILL HELP YOU GROW AND EXPAND AND
00:55:43.120 --> 00:55:45.000
BECOME MORE AND BIGGER BY SEEING WHAT'S BACK THERE AND
00:55:45.020 --> 00:55:47.050
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DONE.
00:55:47.070 --> 00:55:49.180
- SAME QUESTION, TIM.
00:55:49.200 --> 00:55:51.220
- I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE AWAY
00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:54.170
IS THIS IDEA OF MAYBE WHAT HAVEN'T I HEARD?
00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:57.130
BECAUSE UNTIL WE KIND OF GET A HUNGER FOR WANTING MORE,
00:55:57.150 --> 00:55:59.200
WE REALLY ARE PRETTY CONTENT JUST IN OUR LIFE.
00:55:59.220 --> 00:56:04.130
IT ACTUALLY TAKES WORK TO DISCOVER WHAT TRUTH IS, BUT
00:56:04.150 --> 00:56:08.080
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY PEOPLE GET
00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:11.180
A TASTE FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T HAVE,
00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:13.140
IT GIVES THEM A TASTE TO WANT MORE, AND AS WE BEGIN TO
00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:16.210
PURSUE TRUTH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE THAT
00:56:16.230 --> 00:56:18.240
GOD WILL REVEAL TRUTH TO US AS WE PURSUE IT BOTH IN THE
00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:22.000
WORD AND GOING BACK TO COOL STORY FROM AMERICAN HISTORY.
00:56:22.020 --> 00:56:25.070
- SO LOOK, DAVE AND TIM SOMETIMES -- THIS IS A
00:56:25.090 --> 00:56:29.180
COMPLIMENT, KIND OF -- SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE DRINKING
00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:34.120
OUT OF A FIRE HOSE TO GET YOUR INFORMATION,
00:56:34.140 --> 00:56:36.290
BUT GUESS WHAT?
00:56:37.010 --> 00:56:39.080
IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE OUT OF YOUR BELLY WILL FLOW RIVERS
00:56:39.100 --> 00:56:42.040
OF LIFE-GIVING WATER.
00:56:42.060 --> 00:56:43.230
WHETHER YOU'RE DRINKING OUT OF A WATER HOSE OR A --
00:56:43.250 --> 00:56:46.030
- FIRE HYDRANT.
00:56:46.050 --> 00:56:48.020
- FIRE HYDRANT, LIKE THESE GUYS, ALL WE WANT YOU TO KNOW
00:56:48.040 --> 00:56:50.180
IS TRUTH, AND TRUTH SETS YOU FREE.
00:56:50.200 --> 00:56:53.010
AMERICA' HIDDEN HISTORY, AND ALL THE HEROES, RIGHT
00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:56.100
HERE ON TBN EXCLUSIVELY WITH THESE GUYS.
00:56:56.120 --> 00:56:58.170
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
00:56:58.190 --> 00:57:00.110
- THANKS, AUDIENCE, THANK YOU!
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