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Matt & Laurie Crouch Host Creflo & Taffi Dollar

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Praise | Creflo & Taffi Dollar | September 13, 2019

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  • - THE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT,
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  • ON PRAISE.
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  • FROM DALLAS.
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  • SENIOR PASTORS OF WORLD
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  • CHANGERS CHURCH INTERNATIONAL
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  • AND WORLD RENOWN AUTHORS,
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  • CREFLO AND TAFFI DOLLAR.
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  • MUSIC
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  • AND NOW, MATT AND LAURIE
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  • CROUCH!
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  • [CHEERS & APPLAUSE]
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  • - MATT: COME ON, BIG D.
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  • I LIKE IT!
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  • WE ARE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • AND WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO THE
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  • BEST SUBJECT THERE IS TO
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  • HIS NAME IS JESUS.
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  • - CREFLO: YEAH.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • (LAUGHTER)
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  • - LAURIE: WE'VE BEEN WAITING A
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  • LONG TIME TO DO THIS.
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  • WE'RE EXCITED Y'ALL HERE
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  • TONIGHT.
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  • - MATT: WE WANT TO JUMP INTO
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  • THIS THING.
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  • FRAME WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK
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  • ABOUT TONIGHT.
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  • WE'RE GONNA GO DEEP DIVE, ALL
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  • ONE HOUR.
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  • WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
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  • - CREFLO: WE'RE GONNA TALK
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  • ABOUT JESUS, BUT THE WAY WE
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  • APPROACH THE CONVERSATION IS TO
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  • UNVEIL JESUS THROUGH THE SUBJECT
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  • AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
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  • GRACE IS NOT A CURRICULUM.
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  • IT IS INTO THE A SUBJECT MATTER.
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  • IT CAN BE, BUT IT'S REALLY
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  • SHARING INFORMATION THAT UNVEILS
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  • JESUS AND YOU BEGIN TO SEE HIM.
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  • AND SO, I START, TAFFI, WITH
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  • THIS ADDICTION I HAD, I CALL
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  • IT A COMPULSIVE
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  • CHRISTIANITY DISORDER.
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  • - MATT: WOW!
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  • EXPLAIN THAT FOR US.
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  • - CREFLO: IT'S WHERE I JUST
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  • COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHEN WAS IT
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  • ENOUGH, WHEN PEOPLE TOLD ME, YOU
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  • NEED TO PRAY MORE.
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  • WELL, HOW MUCH MORE DO I
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  • NEED TO PRAY?
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  • WHEN THEY TOLD ME, WELL, YOU
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  • NEED TO FAST MORE.
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  • WELL, HOW MUCH MORE FASTING DO I
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  • NEED TO DO?
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  • WELL, YOU NEED TO GO TO CHURCH
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  • MORE, WELL, DO I NEED TO GO
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  • SEVEN DAYS A WEEK?
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  • AND IT WAS A COMPULSIVE
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  • CHRISTIANITY DISORDER.
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  • DO I NEED TO WITNESS TO TEN
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  • PEOPLE TODAY?
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  • IF TEN PEOPLE AREN'T ENOUGH, DO
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  • I NEED TO DO TWENTY PEOPLE?
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  • AND EVENTUALLY, IT GETS TO THE
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  • POINT WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW
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  • WHAT'S ENOUGH.
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  • REPENTANCE.
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  • HOW MUCH REPENTANCE DO I
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  • NEED TO BE?
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  • I FELT LIKE I WAS ALWAYS TRYING
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  • TO EARN GOD'S FAVOR.
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  • - MATT: WOW!
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  • WOW!
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  • - CREFLO: AND I HAD TO WORK
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  • REAL HARD TO DESERVE SOMETHING.
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  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS
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  • TIME IN MY LIFE, TAFFI AND I, WE
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  • WERE-- I'M PRAYING FOR PEOPLE
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  • AND I'M DOING IT BASED ON
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  • MY OWN EFFORTS.
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  • BASED ON MY STRENGTH.
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  • BASED ON WHAT I KNOW.
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  • AND I GET MORE EMOTIONAL.
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  • MAYBE IF I GET MORE EMOTIONAL I
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  • WOULD DO IT.
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  • I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE WERE
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  • FIRST MARRIED, I WAS IN THE
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  • BEDROOM TRYING TO GET ANOINTED
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  • FOR SUNDAY.
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  • - MATT: HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS
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  • THAT, BY THE WAY?
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  • YOU BETTER KNOW THIS.
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  • - CREFLO: THIRTY SOMETHING
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  • YEARS AGO.
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  • I'M IN THE BEDROOM TRYING
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  • TO GET ANOINTING.
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  • AND MEANWHILE, TAFFI IS IN THE
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  • KITCHEN COOKING SPAGHETTI AND
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  • FRENCH BREAD.
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  • AND SO, I'M ON THE FLOOR, I'M
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  • SHUCKING CORN.
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  • UNTIL THE FIBERS GOT IN MY
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  • MOUTH, CHOKED ME UP AND I GOT
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  • QUIET, AND I HEARD GOD, AND HE
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  • SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
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  • I SAID I'M IN HERE TRYING
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  • TO GET ANOINTED.
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  • HE SAID I ANOINTED YOU WHEN
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  • I CALLED YOU.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • I SAID, MMM, AND I KEPT GOING.
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  • BUT I'M RIGHT THERE BY THE DOOR,
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  • AND I'M SMELLING THE FRENCH
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  • BREAD AND SPAGHETTI COMING
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  • THROUGH THE DOOR.
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  • - LAURIE: PRAISE JESUS.
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  • - CREFLO: AND THAT GOT MY
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  • ATTENTION AND I THOUGHT ABOUT
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  • WHAT HE SAID.
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  • AND I THOUGHT, WELL, IF I'M
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  • ALREADY ANOINTED, THEN I MIGHT
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  • AS WELL GO IN THERE AND HAVE
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  • SOME FRENCH BREAD.
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  • SO I GOT UP OF MY KNEES AND
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  • SAID IN JESUS' NAME AMEN AND
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  • WENT AND HAD SOME FRENCH BREAD
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  • AND SPAGHETTI BECAUSE I'M IN
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  • THERE I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
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  • TO EARN WHAT I ALREADY HAVE.
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  • AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST
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  • LIES IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN THAT
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  • DAY WAS THE LIE THAT YOU HAVE TO
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  • TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO BE WHO
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  • YOU ALREADY ARE.
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  • - MATT: HELLO.
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  • - CREFLO: AND YOUR HAVING TO
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  • TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO GET WHAT
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  • YOU ALREADY HAVE.
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  • I WAS HEALED TWO THOUSAND
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  • YEARS AGO.
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  • - MATT: COME ON NEW.
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  • - CREFLO: I WAS DELIVERED TWO
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  • THOUSAND YEARS AGO.
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  • SO, IT'S ABOUT MY FAITH
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  • APPROPRIATING WHAT JESUS HAS
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  • ALREADY MADE AVAILABLE.
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  • MY WHOLE LIFE CHANGED.
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  • I MADE MY MIND UP THAT SOMETHING
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  • HAD TO CHANGE.
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  • WE STRUGGLED IN THIS
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  • FOR A MINUTE.
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  • AND I KNEW SOMETHING
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  • WAS MISSING.
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  • BECAUSE I'M STILL SAYING JESUS
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  • PLUS SOMETHING.
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  • JESUS PLUS ME DOING THIS MORE
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  • OFTEN, JESUS PLUS ME FASTING
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  • MORE DAYS, JESUS-- AND I JUST
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  • SAID, GOD, I'M NOT GOING TO BED
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  • UNTIL, SOMETHING'S MISSING.
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  • SOMETHING'S MISSING.
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  • SEE, I TOOK MY FAITH AND I
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  • TURNED IT INTO LEGALISM.
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  • AND I TRIED MY BEST TO TRY TO
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  • MAKE GOD DO CERTAIN THINGS
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  • INSTEAD OF RECEIVING WHAT HAD
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  • ALREADY BEEN DONE, I HAD MORE
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  • FAITH IN WHAT I COULD DO FOR
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  • JESUS THEN HAVING FAITH IN WHAT
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  • JESUS HAS ALREADY DONE FOR ME.
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  • AND SO, I HEARD THIS VOICE, I
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  • STAYED UP FOR A MINUTE.
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  • AND I HEARD, IT WAS JUST SO
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  • CLEAR, WILL YOU BECOME A STUDENT
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  • OF GRACE?
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  • I'M THINKING, WHAT'S THAT?
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  • I THOUGHT I WAS A STUDENT
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  • OF GRACE.
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  • GOD IS NOT GOING TO SIT AND
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  • DEBATE WITH YOU.
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  • I SAID YEAH, I'LL BE A STUDENT
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  • OF GRACE.
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  • SO, FIRST THING I DID, I
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  • LOOKED UP EVERY SCRIPTURE IN THE
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  • BIBLE ON GRACE.
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  • I WENT IN THE BOOKSTORE GOT
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  • EVERY BOOK I COO FIND ON GRACE.
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  • I DIDN'T KNOW THE GRACE PEOPLE
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  • WERE MAD AT THE FAITH PEOPLE AND
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  • THE FAITH PEOPLE WERE MAD AT THE
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  • GRACE PEOPLE.
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  • I HAD NO IDEA THAT BATTLE WAS
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  • GOING ON.
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  • AND WE SLOWLY BEGAN TO GET INTO
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  • THIS AND BEGIN TO REEVALUATE
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  • EVERYTHING WE WERE DOING.
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  • THEN GOD STARTED DEALING WITH
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  • TAFFI ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.
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  • AND WE WERE LOOKING AT
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  • RELATIONSHIPS UNDER THE LAW
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  • VERSUS RELATIONSHIPS UNDER THE
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  • GRACE OF GOD.
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  • AND OUR WHOLE LIFE BEGAN TO
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  • CHANGE AND WE MADE YOUR MIND UP
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  • THAT WE WILL FOREVER BE STUDENTS
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  • OF GRACE.
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  • I WILL NEVER STOP BEING
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  • A STUDENT.
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  • I'M A STUDENT OF JESUS CHRIST.
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  • A STUDENT OF THE GRACE OF GOD
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  • NOW HENCEFORTH UNTIL HE COMES,
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  • AND THAT'S MY TESTIMONY.
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  • - MATT: OKAY, LET ME JUST ASK
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  • YOU THIS.
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  • WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU
  • 00:07:05.270 --> 00:07:08.270
  • WERE IN A PERFORMANCE BASED
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  • SYSTEM OF CHRISTIANITY?
  • 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:16.200
  • - CREFLO: I WAS A PERFORMANCE
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  • BASED CHRISTIAN.
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  • AND WE WERE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN
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  • PERFORMANCE BASED CHRISTIANITY.
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  • UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES, WHICH
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  • WAS A CONDITIONAL COVENANT THAT
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  • TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU DO FIRST
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  • THAT ENTIRE COVENANT IS BASED
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  • ON WHAT YOU DO FIRST.
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  • TO BE BLESSED UNDER THE MOSAIC
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  • LAW SAID YOU HAVE TO DO THESE
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  • THINGS IN ORDER TO GET
  • 00:07:48.150 --> 00:07:50.090
  • THIS THING.
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  • BUT TO BE BLESSED UNDER THE
  • 00:07:51.170 --> 00:07:53.080
  • WE'RE BLESSED BECAUSE OF
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  • JESUS AND WHAT HE HAS
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  • ALREADY DONE.
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  • [APPLAUSE]
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  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.070
  • - CREFLO: AND NOT BECAUSE OF
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  • WHAT WE DO.
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  • - MATT: OKAY, LET ME JUST TELL
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  • YOU SOMETHING.
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  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JESUS
  • 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:08.180
  • TONIGHT.
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  • OKAY?
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  • THIS IS GOING TO BE AN AMAZING
  • 00:08:09.150 --> 00:08:12.110
  • PROGRAM.
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  • I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW,
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  • CREFLO AND TAFFI ARE HERE ALL
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  • NIGHT, AND I HAVE-- I LOVE IT
  • 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:16.230
  • WHEN THERE ARE SENIOR PASTORS
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  • HERE THAT HAVE TO ANSWER
  • 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:21.250
  • QUESTIONS.
  • 00:08:21.250 --> 00:08:23.000
  • I LOVE THIS.
  • 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.030
  • SO, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
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  • IF YOU GO BACK X-NUMBER OF YEARS
  • 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:32.100
  • WHEN YOU BECAME A STUDENT OF
  • 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:34.040
  • GRACE, YOU'VE DESCRIBED THAT YOU
  • 00:08:34.040 --> 00:08:36.180
  • WERE A PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:08:36.180 --> 00:08:38.000
  • CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:08:38.070 --> 00:08:41.070
  • IN OTHER WORDS, ALMOST FULL
  • 00:08:41.070 --> 00:08:42.110
  • COVENANT.
  • 00:08:42.110 --> 00:08:44.130
  • DO GOOD, GET GOOD, DO BAD, GET
  • 00:08:44.130 --> 00:08:46.120
  • BAD KIND OF, I THINK IS THE WAY
  • 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:47.190
  • JOSEPH PRINCE DESCRIBES IT
  • 00:08:47.190 --> 00:08:48.270
  • SOMETIMES.
  • 00:08:48.270 --> 00:08:50.030
  • BUT WHY DOES GRACE FEEL NEW?
  • 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.120
  • WHAT HAPPENED IN OUR
  • 00:08:57.190 --> 00:09:00.210
  • GRANDPARENTS' GENERATION OR OUR
  • 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:02.040
  • GREAT GRANDPARENTS' GENERATION,
  • 00:09:02.040 --> 00:09:03.250
  • WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS GETS ALL
  • 00:09:04.170 --> 00:09:07.170
  • THE GLORY AND WE GET NONE OF IT?
  • 00:09:07.170 --> 00:09:10.100
  • WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT TEACHING?
  • 00:09:10.100 --> 00:09:12.090
  • WHAT FAILED SOMEWHERE SOMETIME
  • 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:15.210
  • AND WE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
  • 00:09:15.210 --> 00:09:16.290
  • ROUGHLY THE SAME AGE, OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:09:16.290 --> 00:09:18.250
  • I'M A LITTLE YOUNGER THAN THEY
  • 00:09:18.250 --> 00:09:20.230
  • ARE-- I'M KIDDING.
  • 00:09:20.230 --> 00:09:22.190
  • I'M PROBABLY OLDER.
  • 00:09:22.190 --> 00:09:23.270
  • BUT BASICALLY, WHAT HAPPENED
  • 00:09:23.270 --> 00:09:26.240
  • THAT WE GOT RAISED IN A
  • 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.170
  • GENERATION WHERE GRACE-- THAT
  • 00:09:29.170 --> 00:09:31.290
  • YOU HAD TO BE A STUDENT OF IT
  • 00:09:31.290 --> 00:09:34.010
  • WHEN YOU WERE ALREADY A MATURE
  • 00:09:34.010 --> 00:09:35.250
  • MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:09:35.250 --> 00:09:37.000
  • WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:38.110
  • - CREFLO: I BELIEVE THAT EVERY
  • 00:09:38.110 --> 00:09:41.070
  • ISSUE IN LIFE CAN BE RESOLVED
  • 00:09:41.070 --> 00:09:42.230
  • THROUGH AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:44.190
  • WITH JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:09:46.180 --> 00:09:49.180
  • I THINK BACK THEN OUR FOLKS, OUR
  • 00:09:49.180 --> 00:09:52.010
  • FAMILY MEMBERS MAY NOT HAVE
  • 00:09:52.010 --> 00:09:54.240
  • KNOWN THE MECHANICS WE KNOW
  • 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.210
  • TODAY.
  • 00:09:57.090 --> 00:10:00.090
  • BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN YOU
  • 00:10:00.280 --> 00:10:03.280
  • BEGIN TO BECOME MORE ACQUAINTED
  • 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:05.090
  • WITH THE MECHANICS OF FAITH, THE
  • 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:07.260
  • MECHANICS OF PROSPERITY, THE
  • 00:10:07.260 --> 00:10:10.230
  • MECHANICS OF HEALING, YOU FORGET
  • 00:10:10.230 --> 00:10:13.210
  • ABOUT THE PERSONAL INTIMATE
  • 00:10:13.210 --> 00:10:16.190
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:10:16.190 --> 00:10:18.220
  • AND I BELIEVE THAT THE BLOOD OF
  • 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:22.000
  • JESUS WAS SHED SO WE CAN HAVE A
  • 00:10:22.250 --> 00:10:25.250
  • PERSONAL ONE ON ONE RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:10:25.250 --> 00:10:28.110
  • WITH HIM.
  • 00:10:28.110 --> 00:10:30.220
  • SO MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER AND
  • 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:33.060
  • TAFFI'S GRANDPARENTS THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:10:33.060 --> 00:10:35.220
  • KNOW THE GREEK WORD FOR THIS OR
  • 00:10:35.220 --> 00:10:37.050
  • THE HEBREW PHRASE FOR THIS.
  • 00:10:37.050 --> 00:10:38.270
  • BUT WHAT THEY KNEW WAS, TRUST IN
  • 00:10:38.270 --> 00:10:40.240
  • GOD, HONEY, IT WILL BE ALL
  • 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.210
  • RIGHT.
  • 00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:44.010
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:10:44.010 --> 00:10:45.020
  • THE ISSUE WAS, THEY HAD FAITH IN
  • 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:50.080
  • GOD, SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WE
  • 00:10:51.280 --> 00:10:54.280
  • STARTED HAVING FAITH IN WHAT WE
  • 00:10:54.280 --> 00:10:56.050
  • CAN DO.
  • 00:10:56.050 --> 00:10:57.220
  • BUT WE SHOULD HAVE FAITH IN GOD
  • 00:10:57.220 --> 00:11:00.190
  • AND NOT FAITH IN OUR PERFORMANCE
  • 00:11:00.190 --> 00:11:03.060
  • AND FAITH IN OUR SELF-EFFORT AND
  • 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.240
  • FAITH IN HOW MANY CONFESSIONS
  • 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.290
  • CAN WE MAKE.
  • 00:11:09.290 --> 00:11:12.260
  • NO, THE MECHANICS ARE GOOD.
  • 00:11:12.260 --> 00:11:14.020
  • BUT, IF I TAKE THE MECHANICS
  • 00:11:14.020 --> 00:11:16.290
  • THAT I GOT OUT OF A PERSONAL
  • 00:11:16.290 --> 00:11:19.170
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH MY WIFE, AND I
  • 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:21.000
  • SAY TO YOU, MATT, HERE IS WHAT I
  • 00:11:21.010 --> 00:11:24.010
  • DO WITH MY WIFE AND GIVE TO YOU
  • 00:11:24.170 --> 00:11:27.170
  • AND YOU GO DO IT WITH LAURIE,
  • 00:11:27.170 --> 00:11:29.040
  • SHE'S GOING TO LOOK AT YOU LIKE,
  • 00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:30.200
  • WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
  • 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.040
  • WHERE DID YOU GET THIS FROM?
  • 00:11:32.040 --> 00:11:32.240
  • IT WAS NOT BORN OUT OF YOUR
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.190
  • PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:11:34.190 --> 00:11:36.210
  • SO LIKEWISE, WE START, WE BECOME
  • 00:11:36.210 --> 00:11:38.180
  • SO PRINCIPLE MINDED AND SO
  • 00:11:38.180 --> 00:11:40.160
  • MECHANIC DRIVEN, WE FORGET TO
  • 00:11:40.160 --> 00:11:42.040
  • GET TO KNOW THE GUY THAT THIS IS
  • 00:11:42.040 --> 00:11:44.210
  • ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:11:44.210 --> 00:11:47.130
  • I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN AND
  • 00:11:47.130 --> 00:11:48.150
  • WALK RIGHT PAST JESUS BECAUSE I
  • 00:11:48.150 --> 00:11:50.080
  • DON'T KNOW HIM.
  • 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.010
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:11:52.010 --> 00:11:52.200
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.200
  • - CREFLO: SO, WE KNOW HOW TO
  • 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.260
  • HAVE CHURCH, BUT SOME OF THE
  • 00:12:01.260 --> 00:12:04.260
  • STUFF WE DO IN CHURCH,
  • 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:05.160
  • SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO
  • 00:12:05.160 --> 00:12:06.060
  • EXPLAIN IT TO JESUS, BECAUSE HE
  • 00:12:06.060 --> 00:12:07.070
  • HAS TO FIGURE OUT, WHERE DID YOU
  • 00:12:07.070 --> 00:12:07.290
  • GET THAT FROM?
  • 00:12:07.290 --> 00:12:10.010
  • WHAT IS THIS?
  • 00:12:10.010 --> 00:12:10.150
  • - MATT: WOW!
  • 00:12:10.150 --> 00:12:11.010
  • WOW!
  • 00:12:11.010 --> 00:12:11.160
  • WOW!
  • 00:12:11.160 --> 00:12:12.240
  • - CREFLO: I THINK WHAT'S
  • 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:14.080
  • HAPPENED, WE'RE TRYING TO BE
  • 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.170
  • LIKE GOD WITHOUT GOD.
  • 00:12:16.170 --> 00:12:19.040
  • - MATT: OH, HELLO.
  • 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.050
  • - CREFLO: I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN
  • 00:12:21.050 --> 00:12:22.100
  • EVEN SAY THIS ON THE AIR.
  • 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:23.090
  • - MATT: YEAH, YOU CAN, GO
  • 00:12:23.090 --> 00:12:24.020
  • AHEAD.
  • 00:12:24.020 --> 00:12:26.040
  • - CREFLO: BUT, MAN, WE GOT TO
  • 00:12:26.040 --> 00:12:27.110
  • BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE PHRASE
  • 00:12:27.110 --> 00:12:28.210
  • HAVING FAITH IN YOUR FAITH.
  • 00:12:28.210 --> 00:12:29.200
  • WHAT IS THAT?
  • 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.050
  • I HAVE FAITH IN GOD.
  • 00:12:32.050 --> 00:12:34.030
  • I DON'T WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN
  • 00:12:34.030 --> 00:12:36.090
  • WHAT I CAN DO.
  • 00:12:36.090 --> 00:12:37.190
  • I WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN WHAT
  • 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:39.080
  • JESUS HAS ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.250
  • AND SO THE GREATEST, MOST
  • 00:12:42.160 --> 00:12:45.160
  • POWERFUL POSITION FOR A
  • 00:12:45.160 --> 00:12:46.210
  • CHRISTIAN TODAY IS A PLACE OF
  • 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:47.140
  • REST.
  • 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:50.160
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 00:12:50.160 --> 00:12:51.070
  • - CREFLO: WHEN I CAN REST IN
  • 00:12:51.070 --> 00:12:52.050
  • WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
  • 00:12:52.050 --> 00:12:54.000
  • VERSUS ME STRESSING AND TRYING
  • 00:12:54.180 --> 00:12:57.180
  • TO GET HIM TO DO-- THERE ARE TWO
  • 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:58.240
  • PRAYERS HE'LL NEVER ANSWER.
  • 00:12:58.240 --> 00:12:59.260
  • NUMBER ONE, HE WILL NEVER ANSWER
  • 00:12:59.260 --> 00:13:02.040
  • PRAYER WHERE YOUR ASKING HIM TO
  • 00:13:02.040 --> 00:13:03.280
  • DO WHAT HE'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:13:03.280 --> 00:13:05.100
  • - MATT: COME ON, NOW.
  • 00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:06.070
  • - CREFLO: NUMBER TWO, HE WILL
  • 00:13:06.070 --> 00:13:07.200
  • NEVER ANSWER A PRAYER WHERE YOU
  • 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.170
  • ARE TRYING TO GET HIM TO DO WHAT
  • 00:13:09.170 --> 00:13:10.170
  • HE TOLD YOU TO DO.
  • 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:11.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:13:11.260 --> 00:13:13.030
  • THAT IS WHAT WE DID.
  • 00:13:14.230 --> 00:13:17.230
  • AND I'M SO HUNGRY FOR PEOPLE TO
  • 00:13:20.260 --> 00:13:23.260
  • UNDERSTAND JESUS AND TO
  • 00:13:23.260 --> 00:13:26.210
  • UNDERSTAND THIS TRUTH, HE IS
  • 00:13:26.210 --> 00:13:27.260
  • ENOUGH.
  • 00:13:27.260 --> 00:13:30.230
  • HE'S ENOUGH.
  • 00:13:31.090 --> 00:13:34.090
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:35.010
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:13:35.010 --> 00:13:35.180
  • - CREFLO: I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH
  • 00:13:36.050 --> 00:13:39.050
  • AN AGGRESSIVE FORM OF CANCER SIX
  • 00:13:39.050 --> 00:13:41.030
  • YEARS AGO.
  • 00:13:43.010 --> 00:13:46.010
  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:51.100
  • HELPED ME OUT, I KNEW THAT I WAS
  • 00:13:51.100 --> 00:13:53.070
  • ALREADY HEALED.
  • 00:13:53.070 --> 00:13:55.250
  • I'M NOT TRYING TO GET HEALED.
  • 00:13:55.250 --> 00:13:58.190
  • I'M ALREADY HEALED.
  • 00:13:58.190 --> 00:14:00.250
  • I'M NOT TRYING TO GET VICTORY,
  • 00:14:00.250 --> 00:14:02.250
  • I GOT VICTORY.
  • 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.200
  • AND I GO FROM VICTORY TO
  • 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:08.150
  • VICTORY.
  • 00:14:08.150 --> 00:14:10.160
  • I'M THE HEALED, PROTECTING MY
  • 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:11.240
  • HEALTH FROM THE CANCER THAT'S
  • 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:14.070
  • TRYING TO KILL ME.
  • 00:14:14.070 --> 00:14:15.030
  • I HAD MORE FAITH IN WHAT JESUS
  • 00:14:15.030 --> 00:14:17.030
  • HAD ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:14:17.030 --> 00:14:18.040
  • SO I BEGAN TO APPLY MY FAITH,
  • 00:14:18.040 --> 00:14:20.050
  • BEGAN TO THANK GOD AND FOCUS IN
  • 00:14:20.050 --> 00:14:22.230
  • AND SEE JESUS AND SEE THAT I'M
  • 00:14:23.060 --> 00:14:26.060
  • ALREADY THE HEALED AND BEGIN TO
  • 00:14:26.060 --> 00:14:27.280
  • LABOR TO ENTER INTO THE REST I'M
  • 00:14:27.280 --> 00:14:30.120
  • ALREADY HEALED.
  • 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.060
  • I'M NOT LABORING TO TRY TO GET
  • 00:14:32.060 --> 00:14:33.170
  • HEALED.
  • 00:14:33.170 --> 00:14:34.120
  • I'M LABORING TO REST THAT I'M
  • 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.220
  • ALREADY HEALED.
  • 00:14:36.220 --> 00:14:37.290
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:14:37.290 --> 00:14:38.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:41.220
  • - CREFLO: WELL, HERE I IS
  • 00:14:41.220 --> 00:14:43.190
  • TODAY.
  • 00:14:43.190 --> 00:14:44.140
  • I AM HEALED.
  • 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:50.040
  • BUT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING,
  • 00:14:51.100 --> 00:14:54.100
  • GRACE MAKES;
  • 00:14:54.170 --> 00:14:57.170
  • FAITH TAKES.
  • 00:14:58.170 --> 00:15:01.190
  • JESUS, HE MAKES.
  • 00:15:01.190 --> 00:15:03.240
  • HE ALREADY MADE IT.
  • 00:15:06.090 --> 00:15:09.090
  • FAITH IS MY POSITIVE RESPONSE TO
  • 00:15:09.090 --> 00:15:10.140
  • WHAT JESUS HAS ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:15:11.160 --> 00:15:14.160
  • - MATT: WOULD YOU PRAY A GRACE
  • 00:15:14.160 --> 00:15:15.180
  • BASED PRAYER FOR HEALING OVER
  • 00:15:15.180 --> 00:15:17.020
  • OUR AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:15:17.020 --> 00:15:18.190
  • - CREFLO: IT WILL BE QUICK,
  • 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:19.290
  • READY?
  • 00:15:19.290 --> 00:15:20.230
  • - MATT: LOOK RIGHT AT THEM.
  • 00:15:20.230 --> 00:15:22.210
  • THERE THEY ARE OVER THERE.
  • 00:15:22.210 --> 00:15:24.050
  • - CREFLO: FATHER, I THANK YOU
  • 00:15:24.050 --> 00:15:26.040
  • THAT BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS
  • 00:15:26.040 --> 00:15:27.030
  • HEALING HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE
  • 00:15:27.030 --> 00:15:28.070
  • AVAILABLE.
  • 00:15:28.070 --> 00:15:30.190
  • NOW IN JESUS' NAME, WE RECEIVE
  • 00:15:30.190 --> 00:15:32.020
  • IT BY FAITH AND WE THANK YOU
  • 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:35.010
  • THAT WE ARE HEALED.
  • 00:15:36.260 --> 00:15:39.260
  • IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:15:39.260 --> 00:15:41.280
  • - MATT: AMEN.
  • 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:43.120
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:44.290
  • - MATT: I LIKE IT.
  • 00:15:44.290 --> 00:15:45.280
  • SO, BACK BEFORE YOU BECAME A
  • 00:15:49.260 --> 00:15:52.260
  • STUDENT OF GRACE, WOULD IT HAVE
  • 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:54.250
  • BEEN-- I'M MAKING THIS UP, BUT
  • 00:15:56.020 --> 00:15:59.020
  • I'LL JUST MAKE SOMETHING UP.
  • 00:15:59.020 --> 00:16:01.090
  • WOULD YOU, IF THERE WOULD HAVE
  • 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.000
  • BEEN SOMEONE SICK, EVEN UNTO
  • 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.040
  • DEATH, YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
  • 00:16:06.160 --> 00:16:09.160
  • THAT IF THEY DIED YOU STOPPED
  • 00:16:09.160 --> 00:16:11.010
  • SHORT, IS THAT HOW MUCH PRESSURE
  • 00:16:11.010 --> 00:16:13.200
  • WAS ON THE CHURCH BACK THEN?
  • 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.060
  • - CREFLO: IT'S MY FAULT.
  • 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:20.000
  • I WASN'T ANOINTED ENOUGH.
  • 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.270
  • I DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME
  • 00:16:21.270 --> 00:16:24.210
  • HAD I SPENT MORE TIME WITH GOD,
  • 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:27.170
  • I SHOULD HAVE FASTED MORE.
  • 00:16:27.170 --> 00:16:29.220
  • YOU KNOW, JESUS HELPED US OUT
  • 00:16:29.220 --> 00:16:30.130
  • WITH THAT, YOU REMEMBER THE DUDE
  • 00:16:30.130 --> 00:16:31.230
  • WHO THREW HIMSELF IN THE FIRE
  • 00:16:31.230 --> 00:16:34.150
  • AND FATHER ASKED THE DISCIPLES
  • 00:16:34.150 --> 00:16:35.090
  • PRAY FOR HIM AND THEY PRAYED FOR
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:37.050
  • HIM BUT HE DIDN'T GET DELIVERED
  • 00:16:37.050 --> 00:16:39.030
  • AND JESUS CAME AND PRAYED FOR
  • 00:16:39.030 --> 00:16:40.110
  • HIM AND HE GOT DELIVERED AND THE
  • 00:16:40.110 --> 00:16:42.260
  • DISCIPLES ASKED JESUS, WHY COULD
  • 00:16:42.260 --> 00:16:44.220
  • WE NOT PRAY THIS PRAYER AND DEAL
  • 00:16:44.220 --> 00:16:46.150
  • AND JESUS SAID, BECAUSE OF
  • 00:16:50.260 --> 00:16:51.150
  • YOUR UNBELIEF.
  • 00:16:51.150 --> 00:16:53.230
  • THEN HE WENT ON AND HE SAID
  • 00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:55.100
  • SOMETHING THAT THE CHURCH KIND
  • 00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:56.140
  • OF MISINTERPRETED.
  • 00:16:56.140 --> 00:16:57.260
  • HE SAID THIS KIND COMETH NOT OUT
  • 00:16:58.230 --> 00:17:01.250
  • EXCEPT BY PRAYER AND FASTING.
  • 00:17:01.250 --> 00:17:04.240
  • AND THE CHURCH THOUGHT HE WAS
  • 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:06.060
  • TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF DEMON
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:07.180
  • COMETH NOT OUT EXCEPT BY PLAYER
  • 00:17:07.180 --> 00:17:09.230
  • AND FASTING.
  • 00:17:09.230 --> 00:17:10.170
  • HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:12.070
  • DEMON, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:17:12.070 --> 00:17:13.070
  • UNBELIEF.
  • 00:17:13.070 --> 00:17:14.020
  • HE SAID PRAY AND FAST TO DEAL
  • 00:17:14.020 --> 00:17:16.180
  • WITH THE UNBELIEF.
  • 00:17:16.180 --> 00:17:19.000
  • HE DIDN'T SAY PRAY AND FAST TO
  • 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:19.210
  • DEAL WITH THE DEMON AND, SO WE
  • 00:17:19.210 --> 00:17:21.030
  • THOUGHT PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:17:21.030 --> 00:17:22.240
  • MENTALITY SAID, WE GOT TO PRAY
  • 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:24.270
  • IS FAST SO WE CAN
  • 00:17:24.270 --> 00:17:26.210
  • PERFORM BETTER.
  • 00:17:28.070 --> 00:17:31.070
  • BUT THE PRAYER AND THE FASTING
  • 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:31.280
  • WAS SO YOU CAN BELIEVE BETTER.
  • 00:17:31.280 --> 00:17:32.230
  • BECAUSE UNDER THIS COVENANT OF
  • 00:17:32.230 --> 00:17:33.250
  • GRACE IS ABOUT BELIEVING JESUS.
  • 00:17:33.250 --> 00:17:36.060
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:37.090
  • I'M ALL RIGHT WITH GOD, NOT
  • 00:17:37.090 --> 00:17:39.210
  • BECAUSE OF WHAT I DO OR DON'T
  • 00:17:39.210 --> 00:17:42.090
  • DO.
  • 00:17:42.090 --> 00:17:42.250
  • I'M ALL RIGHT WITH GOD BECAUSE I
  • 00:17:42.250 --> 00:17:44.190
  • BELIEVE WHAT JESUS HAS ALREADY
  • 00:17:44.190 --> 00:17:47.070
  • DONE.
  • 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:48.280
  • AND THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT STARTS
  • 00:17:48.280 --> 00:17:50.130
  • WORKING ON THE INSIDE OF ME,
  • 00:17:50.130 --> 00:17:52.000
  • GIVING ME THE DESIRE TO PLEASE
  • 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.260
  • HIM.
  • 00:17:53.260 --> 00:17:55.210
  • SO YEAH, PERFORMANCE BASED, ALL
  • 00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:57.080
  • OF THE PRESSURE THAT THE CHURCH
  • 00:17:57.080 --> 00:17:59.230
  • WASN'T GROWING BECAUSE I DIDN'T
  • 00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:01.260
  • PERFORM RIGHT.
  • 00:18:01.260 --> 00:18:02.130
  • I HAD AN AUNT WHO DIED.
  • 00:18:03.120 --> 00:18:06.120
  • I DID EVERYTHING, I POURED OIL
  • 00:18:06.120 --> 00:18:07.030
  • ON HER HEAD.
  • 00:18:07.030 --> 00:18:07.150
  • I PUT ON THE TALID.
  • 00:18:08.180 --> 00:18:11.180
  • I PUT THAT ON.
  • 00:18:11.180 --> 00:18:12.230
  • IT COVERED MY HEAD
  • 00:18:12.230 --> 00:18:13.100
  • AND I FASTED.
  • 00:18:13.100 --> 00:18:14.090
  • I DID EVERYTHING AND WHEN SHE
  • 00:18:14.090 --> 00:18:15.160
  • DIED, I SAID, EITHER JESUS DID
  • 00:18:17.290 --> 00:18:20.290
  • IT OR HE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE I
  • 00:18:22.030 --> 00:18:25.030
  • KNOW I COULDN'T DO IT.
  • 00:18:25.030 --> 00:18:26.110
  • I FELT THIS IS MY FAULT.
  • 00:18:26.110 --> 00:18:28.200
  • IMAGINE WALKING AROUND CARRYING
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.200
  • THE BURDEN OF YOUR PERFORMANCE,
  • 00:18:32.260 --> 00:18:35.260
  • JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I CAN
  • 00:18:36.110 --> 00:18:39.110
  • DESERVE SOMETHING WITHOUT ME
  • 00:18:39.110 --> 00:18:42.040
  • HAVING TO WORK FOR IT,
  • 00:18:42.040 --> 00:18:42.280
  • TO EARN IT.
  • 00:18:45.020 --> 00:18:48.020
  • AND THE BIBLE CALLS THAT DEAD
  • 00:18:48.020 --> 00:18:48.230
  • WORKS, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO
  • 00:18:48.230 --> 00:18:49.160
  • DESERVE IT.
  • 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.000
  • IT IS DEAD WORKS.
  • 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.040
  • - MATT: LET ME TELL YOU
  • 00:18:53.040 --> 00:18:53.240
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.190
  • I'VE DONE QUITE A NUMBER OF
  • 00:18:55.190 --> 00:18:57.040
  • SHOWS, THIS IS NOT MY
  • 00:18:57.040 --> 00:18:59.070
  • FIRST TV SHOW, I'VE BEEN DOING
  • 00:18:59.070 --> 00:19:00.060
  • THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
  • 00:19:00.060 --> 00:19:01.090
  • AND I THINK YOU ARE TAPPING INTO
  • 00:19:01.090 --> 00:19:03.010
  • SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK HAS
  • 00:19:03.010 --> 00:19:05.290
  • EVER BEEN DISCUSSED OVER TBN.
  • 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.200
  • MAYBE SOMEWHERE ELSE IT HAS, BUT
  • 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.030
  • I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN
  • 00:19:11.030 --> 00:19:12.160
  • INTO THIS.
  • 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:13.090
  • LET ME TELL YOU WHERE I THINK WE
  • 00:19:13.090 --> 00:19:14.080
  • ARE.
  • 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:16.150
  • YOU'RE ABOUT TO SET A WHOLE
  • 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.000
  • BUNCH OF PEOPLE FREE.
  • 00:19:21.050 --> 00:19:24.050
  • IF YOU REALIZED WHAT WE ARE
  • 00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:26.060
  • DEALING WITH, WHAT ABOUT ANYBODY
  • 00:19:26.060 --> 00:19:27.120
  • WATCHING TONIGHT THAT'S DIVORCED
  • 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:29.260
  • THAT THINKS, IF I HAD JUST DONE
  • 00:19:30.030 --> 00:19:33.030
  • A LITTLE BETTER, IF I PRAYED A
  • 00:19:33.030 --> 00:19:34.100
  • LITTLE BETTER, THE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:19:34.100 --> 00:19:35.120
  • HAVE LOST CHILDREN, THE PEOPLE,
  • 00:19:35.120 --> 00:19:37.240
  • THE ACCIDENTS AND THINK OF THE
  • 00:19:39.060 --> 00:19:42.060
  • GUILT THAT THE CHURCH IS LIVING
  • 00:19:42.060 --> 00:19:44.020
  • IN AND THE SHAME AND THE
  • 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.160
  • HORRIBLE THING THAT SOMEHOW IT'S
  • 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.120
  • UP TO US.
  • 00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:52.270
  • WHY DON'T YOU HELP OUR AUDIENCE
  • 00:19:53.070 --> 00:19:56.070
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU
  • 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.000
  • WHEN YOU BECAME A STUDENT OF
  • 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.000
  • GRACE.
  • 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:02.220
  • BECAUSE YOU WERE KIND OF IN A
  • 00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:04.130
  • GROUP OF CHRISTIANITY THAT WAS
  • 00:20:04.220 --> 00:20:07.220
  • REALLY, LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT
  • 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:10.250
  • WAS, PERFORMANCE BASED.
  • 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:12.020
  • IS THAT TRUE?
  • 00:20:12.020 --> 00:20:14.180
  • - CREFLO: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 00:20:14.180 --> 00:20:16.040
  • - MATT: I'M NOT PUTTING WORD IN
  • 00:20:16.040 --> 00:20:16.260
  • YOUR MOUTH.
  • 00:20:16.260 --> 00:20:17.080
  • - CREFLO: NO, NO, NO, YOU ARE
  • 00:20:17.080 --> 00:20:17.290
  • NOT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
  • 00:20:17.290 --> 00:20:19.040
  • IT WAS THE TRUTH.
  • 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:21.290
  • IT WAS THE GUILT, THE
  • 00:20:21.290 --> 00:20:22.230
  • CONDEMNATION, THE SHAME.
  • 00:20:24.020 --> 00:20:27.020
  • THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP
  • 00:20:27.180 --> 00:20:30.180
  • WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LIVE YOUR
  • 00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:32.060
  • LIFE BY PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:20:32.060 --> 00:20:33.280
  • COVENANT.
  • 00:20:33.280 --> 00:20:36.010
  • THE COVENANT OF THE LAW, THE LAW
  • 00:20:36.010 --> 00:20:37.290
  • THAT CAME BY MOSES WAS A
  • 00:20:42.020 --> 00:20:45.020
  • PERFORMANCE BASED AGREEMENT.
  • 00:20:45.020 --> 00:20:47.220
  • IT WAS CONDITIONAL BASED ON
  • 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:49.020
  • YOUR PERFORMANCE.
  • 00:20:49.020 --> 00:20:50.110
  • IF YOU WERE GOOD
  • 00:20:50.110 --> 00:20:51.260
  • THEN GOD WAS GOOD.
  • 00:20:51.260 --> 00:20:53.060
  • BUT UNDER GRACE, GOD'S NOT GOOD
  • 00:20:53.060 --> 00:20:54.160
  • BECAUSE WE ARE GOOD UNDER GRACE
  • 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:57.000
  • GOD'S GOOD BECAUSE HE'S GOOD.
  • 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:58.250
  • SO WHAT HAPPENS TO A GUY WHO,
  • 00:20:58.250 --> 00:20:59.250
  • ALL RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, I GET
  • 00:20:59.250 --> 00:21:01.280
  • CANCER AND I'M A FAITH GUY.
  • 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.240
  • AND YOU WALK AROUND IN
  • 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.070
  • CONDEMNATION BECAUSE YOU GOT
  • 00:21:08.040 --> 00:21:11.040
  • SICKNESS, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN
  • 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:12.250
  • THIS TO THE PEOPLE?
  • 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:13.280
  • HOW CAN YOU GET CANCER AND YOU
  • 00:21:13.280 --> 00:21:15.220
  • ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A FAITH GUY?
  • 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:17.080
  • OR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE
  • 00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:19.280
  • TALKED TO THAT WERE DIVORCED AND
  • 00:21:20.180 --> 00:21:23.180
  • THEY THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OVER
  • 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:24.080
  • WITH AND THEY QUIT CHURCH, AND
  • 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:24.290
  • THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE
  • 00:21:24.290 --> 00:21:26.050
  • ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHURCH
  • 00:21:26.050 --> 00:21:27.020
  • ANYMORE.
  • 00:21:27.020 --> 00:21:27.140
  • OR THE PERSON THAT HAS A KID AND
  • 00:21:27.140 --> 00:21:29.040
  • THE KID'S IN DRUGS AND HE HAS TO
  • 00:21:31.070 --> 00:21:34.070
  • DO THIS, WE ARE SO BUSY TRYING
  • 00:21:34.070 --> 00:21:36.220
  • TO PERFORM TO DESERVE SOMETHING
  • 00:21:36.220 --> 00:21:38.150
  • FROM GOD AND TRYING TO PERFORM
  • 00:21:38.150 --> 00:21:39.250
  • TO BE ALL RIGHT WITH THE PEOPLE
  • 00:21:39.250 --> 00:21:42.000
  • THAT ARE AT THE CHURCH, SO WE
  • 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.060
  • PERFECT A PHONINESS TO SUCH A
  • 00:21:43.060 --> 00:21:45.040
  • POINT THAT WE WALK AROUND WITH A
  • 00:21:45.040 --> 00:21:47.090
  • FALSE IDENTITY.
  • 00:21:47.090 --> 00:21:48.050
  • - MATT: LORD, JESUS.
  • 00:21:48.050 --> 00:21:49.290
  • - CREFLO: AND, YOU DIDN'T KNOW
  • 00:21:49.290 --> 00:21:51.090
  • WHAT YOU WERE DEALING WITH WHEN
  • 00:21:51.090 --> 00:21:52.010
  • YOU WENT TO CHURCH AND
  • 00:21:52.010 --> 00:21:53.000
  • EVERYBODY'S JUST AFRAID AND WE
  • 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:54.090
  • PUT ON THIS LITTLE MASK, THIS IS
  • 00:21:54.270 --> 00:21:57.270
  • THE WAY WE GO TO CHURCH.
  • 00:21:57.270 --> 00:21:59.250
  • HEY, BROTHER, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:02.020
  • BLESS THE LORD.
  • 00:22:02.020 --> 00:22:04.160
  • I DIDN'T ASK YOU THAT.
  • 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:05.030
  • I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU
  • 00:22:05.030 --> 00:22:05.240
  • ARE DOING.
  • 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.030
  • BUT YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHAME AND
  • 00:22:08.030 --> 00:22:09.110
  • SO FULL OF GUILT AND SO FULL OF
  • 00:22:09.110 --> 00:22:10.030
  • CONDEMNATION THAT YOU FEEL LIKE
  • 00:22:10.030 --> 00:22:12.100
  • YOU HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND THE
  • 00:22:12.100 --> 00:22:13.200
  • COVER AND YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW
  • 00:22:13.230 --> 00:22:16.230
  • THE PEOPLE IN CHURCH BECAUSE
  • 00:22:16.230 --> 00:22:17.290
  • THEY HAVE A FALSE IDENTITY.
  • 00:22:17.290 --> 00:22:18.190
  • WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE REAL YOU.
  • 00:22:18.190 --> 00:22:19.170
  • WE DON'T KNOW THE WOUNDS YOU'VE
  • 00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:20.090
  • HAD IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:22:20.090 --> 00:22:21.260
  • WE DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE
  • 00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:24.040
  • MOLESTED AND DOGGED OUT AND
  • 00:22:24.040 --> 00:22:26.220
  • MAYBE YOU WERE RAPED.
  • 00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:28.010
  • BUT YOU WERE FORCED TO CARRY
  • 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:29.070
  • THIS MASK AROUND AND PUT THIS
  • 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:31.030
  • FACE ON AND WE COULD NEVER
  • 00:22:31.030 --> 00:22:33.110
  • DISCOVER THE REAL YOU.
  • 00:22:33.110 --> 00:22:34.240
  • AND UNTIL YOU FOUND OUT THAT
  • 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:36.230
  • JESUS LOVED YOU AND HAS ALREADY
  • 00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:39.100
  • PROVIDED FOUR AND HAS ALREADY
  • 00:22:39.100 --> 00:22:40.220
  • MADE A WAY FOR YOU AND HAS
  • 00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:42.220
  • ALREADY DEALT WITH THAT
  • 00:22:42.230 --> 00:22:45.230
  • CONDEMNATION, AND THAT SHAME AND
  • 00:22:45.230 --> 00:22:47.020
  • THAT GUILT, SEE, RIGHT NOW
  • 00:22:47.020 --> 00:22:49.160
  • TODAY, MANHOOD HAS BEEN REPLACED
  • 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.060
  • WITH SHAME.
  • 00:22:51.060 --> 00:22:53.120
  • AND YOU WALK AROUND AND YOU MEET
  • 00:22:53.120 --> 00:22:55.230
  • MOST OF THE MEN IN CHURCH AND
  • 00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:57.100
  • THEY ARE FULL OF SHAME.
  • 00:22:57.100 --> 00:22:59.030
  • WHY DON'T MEN COME TO CHURCH?
  • 00:22:59.030 --> 00:23:00.170
  • BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF SHAME.
  • 00:23:00.170 --> 00:23:03.120
  • THE GUILT OF EVEN A PERSON
  • 00:23:05.290 --> 00:23:07.000
  • FALLING INTO SIN
  • 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.030
  • AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH A
  • 00:23:08.030 --> 00:23:09.170
  • BUNCH OF SELF-RIGHTEOUS
  • 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:11.230
  • CHRISTIANS BECAUSE LAW BASED
  • 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:14.150
  • PERFORMANCE BASED CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:23:14.150 --> 00:23:16.010
  • PRODUCES SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:23:16.010 --> 00:23:18.000
  • - MATT: COME ON, NOW.
  • 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:18.280
  • - CREFLO: AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH
  • 00:23:18.280 --> 00:23:19.240
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS IS WE START
  • 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.020
  • COMPARING OURSELVES AMONGST
  • 00:23:21.020 --> 00:23:23.180
  • OURSELVES AND WE SIT THERE AND
  • 00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:24.160
  • WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'VE
  • 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.180
  • NEVER SMOKED A CIGARETTE AND
  • 00:23:26.180 --> 00:23:29.120
  • AND I'VE NEVER EVEN HAD A CUP OF
  • 00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:34.130
  • COFFEE AND EVEN LOOK AT MY NAKED
  • 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:36.030
  • BODY WHEN I GET OUT OF THE
  • 00:23:36.030 --> 00:23:36.250
  • SHOWER AND I'M JUST--
  • 00:23:36.250 --> 00:23:38.290
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:23:38.290 --> 00:23:41.100
  • AND WE BRAG ABOUT JUST HOW
  • 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.160
  • AWESOME WE ARE BUT NOW WE DON'T
  • 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:46.080
  • RECOGNIZE IT.
  • 00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:47.080
  • WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S WORSE
  • 00:23:47.080 --> 00:23:48.110
  • THAN ALL THOSE THINGS, WE ARE
  • 00:23:48.110 --> 00:23:49.020
  • NOW SELF-RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:23:49.020 --> 00:23:50.200
  • WE ARE NOW SELF-RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.140
  • AND SO JESUS JUST KEPT LIFTING
  • 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:53.210
  • THE BAR.
  • 00:23:53.210 --> 00:23:55.100
  • HAVE YOU EVER COMMITTED MURDER?
  • 00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:56.290
  • NO, I'VE NEVER KILLED ANYBODY.
  • 00:23:56.290 --> 00:23:57.290
  • HAVE YOU EVER HATED
  • 00:23:57.290 --> 00:23:58.260
  • YOUR BROTHER?
  • 00:23:58.260 --> 00:23:59.130
  • WELL, YEAH.
  • 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.160
  • HE SAYS YOU ARE MURDERER.
  • 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:04.050
  • HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN INTO
  • 00:24:04.050 --> 00:24:04.240
  • ADULTERY?
  • 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:05.140
  • NO, I'VE NEVER.
  • 00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:06.170
  • HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AT A WOMAN.
  • 00:24:06.170 --> 00:24:08.130
  • WELL, YOU'RE AN ADULTERER.
  • 00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:10.020
  • WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS TO KNOW
  • 00:24:10.040 --> 00:24:13.040
  • TO DO GOOD AND DO IT NOT, IT'S
  • 00:24:13.040 --> 00:24:14.040
  • SIN.
  • 00:24:14.040 --> 00:24:15.260
  • WHATEVER IS DONE OUT OF FAITH IS
  • 00:24:15.260 --> 00:24:17.260
  • SIN.
  • 00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:19.070
  • WE KEEP BUMPING INTO CHRISTIANS
  • 00:24:19.070 --> 00:24:21.060
  • WHO THINK THEY CAN DO THIS BY
  • 00:24:21.060 --> 00:24:22.200
  • THEMSELVES, I'M TELLING YOU,
  • 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:23.260
  • EVERYBODY IN THIS STUDIO TONIGHT
  • 00:24:23.260 --> 00:24:26.050
  • NEEDS A SAVIOR.
  • 00:24:26.050 --> 00:24:28.200
  • I NEED A SAVIOR, YOU NEED A
  • 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.250
  • SAVIOR.
  • 00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:32.040
  • YOU NEED A SAVIOR.
  • 00:24:32.040 --> 00:24:33.000
  • SO, YEAH, I WAS-- THE SHAME THAT
  • 00:24:38.260 --> 00:24:41.260
  • I CARRIED EVERY TIME A BAD
  • 00:24:41.260 --> 00:24:43.290
  • REPORT WOULD COME ON THE NEWS.
  • 00:24:43.290 --> 00:24:45.160
  • AND OUR NEWS WAS WORLDWIDE.
  • 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.110
  • IT WAS NOT JUST IN COMMUNITY.
  • 00:24:48.110 --> 00:24:50.140
  • IT WAS WORLDWIDE.
  • 00:24:50.140 --> 00:24:51.100
  • AND THE PAIN OF EVEN BEING
  • 00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:54.000
  • JUDGED BY PEOPLE I THOUGHT LOVED
  • 00:24:54.100 --> 00:24:57.100
  • ME AND PEOPLE I THOUGHT WERE
  • 00:24:57.100 --> 00:24:58.290
  • WITH ME, AND I THOUGHT, MAN,
  • 00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:00.090
  • THIS IS CRAZY.
  • 00:25:01.260 --> 00:25:04.260
  • BUT I CAN'T LIVE IN THIS BONDAGE
  • 00:25:04.260 --> 00:25:05.280
  • ANYMORE.
  • 00:25:05.280 --> 00:25:06.200
  • I'VE GOT TO BE FREE.
  • 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.090
  • - MATT: LET ME SAY, I WANT TO
  • 00:25:08.090 --> 00:25:09.050
  • KNOW HOW ALL THAT SHAME GOT OFF
  • 00:25:09.050 --> 00:25:10.150
  • OF YOU.
  • 00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:11.290
  • BUT TAFFI, HE WAS A MESS AT SOME
  • 00:25:12.010 --> 00:25:15.010
  • POINT.
  • 00:25:15.010 --> 00:25:17.090
  • I MEAN THIS GUY WAS-- YOU ARE
  • 00:25:17.090 --> 00:25:18.030
  • PASTORING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
  • 00:25:18.030 --> 00:25:20.160
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:21.160
  • HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND
  • 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:23.030
  • MILLIONS BY TELEVISION AND YOU
  • 00:25:23.030 --> 00:25:24.200
  • ARE LIVING A PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:25:24.290 --> 00:25:27.290
  • CHRISTIANITY WHERE IF SOMETHING
  • 00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:31.140
  • BAD HAPPENS IT WAS YOUR FAULT.
  • 00:25:31.140 --> 00:25:33.080
  • - CREFLO: YEAH.
  • 00:25:33.080 --> 00:25:33.250
  • - MATT: HOLY SMOKES.
  • 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:38.250
  • - TAFFI: I MEAN, IT WAS JUST
  • 00:25:38.250 --> 00:25:40.040
  • BASED ON US THINKING THAT WAS
  • 00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:43.000
  • WHAT IT TOOK TO PLEASE GOD.
  • 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.040
  • IT PUT THIS RESPONSIBILITY OF
  • 00:25:44.040 --> 00:25:45.290
  • MEASURING UP TO PEOPLE'S
  • 00:25:45.290 --> 00:25:47.270
  • EXPECTATIONS AND HOW YOU ARE
  • 00:25:47.270 --> 00:25:50.010
  • SUPPOSED TO BE AS A CHRISTIAN,
  • 00:25:50.010 --> 00:25:51.240
  • AS A LEADER.
  • 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.060
  • IN YOUR HOME, WHAT PEOPLE DO
  • 00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:56.180
  • EVERY DAY TO TRY TO PLEASE GOD.
  • 00:25:56.180 --> 00:25:57.160
  • WHAT MOOD IS GOD IN TODAY?
  • 00:26:01.090 --> 00:26:02.090
  • AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO?
  • 00:26:02.090 --> 00:26:03.110
  • AND HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO DO IT?
  • 00:26:03.110 --> 00:26:04.200
  • AND SO, IT IS THIS CYCLE THAT
  • 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.260
  • NEVER ENDS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE
  • 00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:08.210
  • - MATT: DO YOU REMEMBER ANY
  • 00:26:12.090 --> 00:26:12.290
  • CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU TWO
  • 00:26:12.290 --> 00:26:14.110
  • WHERE YOU WERE SAYING SOMETHING
  • 00:26:14.110 --> 00:26:16.270
  • LIKE, THIS AIN'T WORKING OUT.
  • 00:26:16.270 --> 00:26:19.020
  • THIS IS NOT RIGHT.
  • 00:26:19.020 --> 00:26:21.040
  • - TAFFI: I THINK WHEN OUR
  • 00:26:21.040 --> 00:26:22.260
  • CHILDREN WERE SMALLER AND CREFLO
  • 00:26:22.260 --> 00:26:24.130
  • WOULD BE GONE A LOT AND THINKING
  • 00:26:24.130 --> 00:26:27.010
  • HE HAD TO DO SO MUCH TO BE ON
  • 00:26:27.010 --> 00:26:28.270
  • THE ROAD TO TRY TO SAVE THE
  • 00:26:28.270 --> 00:26:30.280
  • WORLD IN ORDER TO PLEASE GOD.
  • 00:26:30.280 --> 00:26:31.260
  • SO IT IS THOSE KINDS OF THINGS
  • 00:26:31.260 --> 00:26:34.110
  • THAT YOU FEEL LIKE, THERE IS
  • 00:26:34.110 --> 00:26:35.160
  • NEVER ENOUGH TO REACH THE WORLD.
  • 00:26:37.140 --> 00:26:40.140
  • - CREFLO: NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:26:40.140 --> 00:26:41.220
  • - TAFFI: WE HAD FIVE SERVICES
  • 00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:42.270
  • A DAY AND SO THIS WAS FOR
  • 00:26:42.270 --> 00:26:43.240
  • THREE YEARS.
  • 00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:47.150
  • ON TOP OF THAT HE TRAVELED
  • 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:49.060
  • DURING THE WEEK.
  • 00:26:49.060 --> 00:26:51.230
  • SO, IT WAS--
  • 00:26:51.230 --> 00:26:53.000
  • - LAURIE: SO YOU ARE OUT THERE
  • 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:53.220
  • KILLING YOURSELF.
  • 00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:54.220
  • - CREFLO: IT WAS THAT WHOLE
  • 00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:55.150
  • DEAL OF, IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.160
  • THAT'S WHAT CONDEMNATION IS ALL
  • 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:02.240
  • ABOUT.
  • 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.200
  • CONDEMNATION DEALS WITH IT NOT
  • 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.030
  • BEING ENOUGH.
  • 00:27:06.030 --> 00:27:07.210
  • - TAFFI: IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:27:07.210 --> 00:27:09.060
  • - CREFLO: IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
  • 00:27:09.060 --> 00:27:10.230
  • - TAFFI: I THINK HE THOUGHT HIS
  • 00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:12.110
  • BODY WAS A MACHINE.
  • 00:27:12.110 --> 00:27:13.230
  • I TEASE, YOU ARE A PREACHING
  • 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:15.130
  • MACHINE.
  • 00:27:15.130 --> 00:27:16.000
  • AND HE JUST WOULD BE ON AUTO
  • 00:27:17.080 --> 00:27:20.080
  • PILOT.
  • 00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:21.210
  • - CREFLO: I WAS THE TIREDEST
  • 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:24.020
  • MAN ON THE PLANET.
  • 00:27:24.110 --> 00:27:27.110
  • BECAUSE I WANTED TO PLEASE GOD
  • 00:27:27.110 --> 00:27:29.100
  • AND I THOUGHT THAT PLEASING GOD
  • 00:27:29.100 --> 00:27:31.010
  • WAS LIVING THAT PERFORMANCE
  • 00:27:31.010 --> 00:27:33.270
  • BASED CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:27:33.270 --> 00:27:36.060
  • AND BLESS GOD, I'M GOING TO
  • 00:27:36.060 --> 00:27:37.040
  • PLEASE HIM.
  • 00:27:37.040 --> 00:27:37.210
  • I'M GOING TO PLEASE HIM AND THEN
  • 00:27:37.210 --> 00:27:39.120
  • PUT EVERYTHING ON THE LINE.
  • 00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:41.190
  • AND I FOUND OUT, THAT DIDN'T
  • 00:27:41.190 --> 00:27:43.110
  • HAVE TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
  • 00:27:43.110 --> 00:27:45.140
  • BUT YOU ONLY DO WHAT
  • 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:47.140
  • YOU KNOW TO DO.
  • 00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:48.100
  • YOU DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.
  • 00:27:48.220 --> 00:27:51.220
  • YOU DO WHAT PEOPLE
  • 00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:52.100
  • ARE TEACHING YOU.
  • 00:27:52.100 --> 00:27:54.080
  • YOU ARE DOING WHAT
  • 00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:55.000
  • YOU ARE HEARING.
  • 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.230
  • YOU ARE TRUSTING.
  • 00:27:57.230 --> 00:27:59.070
  • - TAFFI: YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:27:59.070 --> 00:27:59.280
  • DOING IT.
  • 00:27:59.280 --> 00:28:00.260
  • - CREFLO: YOU SEE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:28:00.260 --> 00:28:02.010
  • ARE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.
  • 00:28:02.010 --> 00:28:02.180
  • YOU DO THAT.
  • 00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:03.210
  • AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE
  • 00:28:03.210 --> 00:28:05.120
  • POINT YOU RECOGNIZE, THIS ISN'T
  • 00:28:05.120 --> 00:28:07.030
  • WORKING.
  • 00:28:07.030 --> 00:28:08.270
  • THIS IS NOT WORKING.
  • 00:28:08.270 --> 00:28:09.250
  • AND YOU LOOK AT THE SCRIPTURE
  • 00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:11.030
  • AND PEOPLE SAY THE BIBLE
  • 00:28:11.030 --> 00:28:12.050
  • CONTRADICTS ITSELF.
  • 00:28:12.050 --> 00:28:13.160
  • NO, IT DIDN'T CONTRADICT ITSELF.
  • 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:16.020
  • IT HAS TO BE RIGHTLY DIVIDED.
  • 00:28:16.020 --> 00:28:17.210
  • AND YOU HAVE TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE
  • 00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:20.070
  • IT BETWEEN THE LAW BY MOSES AND
  • 00:28:20.070 --> 00:28:21.160
  • THE GRACE BY JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:23.070
  • WHAT WAS TRUE UNDER THE LAW BY
  • 00:28:23.070 --> 00:28:24.240
  • MOSES MAY NOT BE TRUE UNDER THE
  • 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.180
  • GRACE BY JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:28:26.180 --> 00:28:28.070
  • BUT IN THOSE DAYS WE WOULD JUST
  • 00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:30.250
  • TAKE EVERYTHING AND JUST PUT IT
  • 00:28:30.250 --> 00:28:32.150
  • INTO ONE BASKET AND NOBODY-- IT
  • 00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:34.120
  • WASN'T RIGHTLY DIVIDED.
  • 00:28:35.220 --> 00:28:38.220
  • WE LEARNED THE GREEK AND HEBREW,
  • 00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:40.040
  • BUT WE DIDN'T LEARN IN THIS
  • 00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:41.070
  • DISPENSATION THIS WAS TRUE, BUT
  • 00:28:41.070 --> 00:28:43.080
  • THAT DISPENSATION'S ENDED NOW
  • 00:28:44.290 --> 00:28:47.290
  • WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS
  • 00:28:47.290 --> 00:28:48.170
  • DISPENSATION?
  • 00:28:48.170 --> 00:28:50.040
  • AND WE LIVED OUR LIFE, I WOULD
  • 00:28:50.040 --> 00:28:51.080
  • SAY, BY MIXTURES, WE WOULD MIX A
  • 00:28:51.080 --> 00:28:53.200
  • LITTLE LAW WITH A LITTLE GRACE
  • 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.080
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
  • 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:57.210
  • YOU MIX A LITTLE LAW WITH A
  • 00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.170
  • LITTLE GRACE?
  • 00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:00.130
  • NOTHING HAPPENS.
  • 00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:02.080
  • NOTHING HAPPENS.
  • 00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:03.230
  • YOU CAN'T TAKE NEW WINE AND PUT
  • 00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:05.150
  • IT INTO OLD WINE SKIN BECAUSE
  • 00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:08.020
  • YOU LOSE THE BENEFIT AND THE USE
  • 00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:09.270
  • OF BOTH OF THEM.
  • 00:29:09.270 --> 00:29:10.240
  • - MATT: LET ME ASK YOU REAL
  • 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:11.210
  • STRAIGHTFORWARD.
  • 00:29:11.210 --> 00:29:13.050
  • YOU REALIZE WE HAVE BEEN GOING A
  • 00:29:13.050 --> 00:29:14.140
  • HALF AN HOUR.
  • 00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:15.140
  • - LAURIE: IT'S GOING FAST.
  • 00:29:15.140 --> 00:29:16.050
  • - MATT: IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE
  • 00:29:16.050 --> 00:29:17.180
  • SET UP THAT NOW WHAT NEEDS TO
  • 00:29:17.250 --> 00:29:20.250
  • HAPPEN IS, THERE'S A LOT OF
  • 00:29:20.250 --> 00:29:22.150
  • PEOPLE THAT RIGHT NOW GREW UP IN
  • 00:29:22.150 --> 00:29:24.050
  • THE SAME KIND OF ENVIRONMENT
  • 00:29:24.190 --> 00:29:27.190
  • THAT LAURIE AND I DID, THAT YOU
  • 00:29:27.190 --> 00:29:28.150
  • DID.
  • 00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:29.290
  • THAT BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU DID MY
  • 00:29:30.050 --> 00:29:33.050
  • TERMS, YOU PIVOTED TO GRACE, SO
  • 00:29:33.050 --> 00:29:34.170
  • I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU
  • 00:29:34.170 --> 00:29:37.160
  • WERE TEACHING BEFORE THAT, BUT
  • 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.210
  • LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT SINCE
  • 00:29:39.210 --> 00:29:41.070
  • YOU HAVE PIVOTED TO GRACE YOUR
  • 00:29:41.070 --> 00:29:43.090
  • RATINGS ARE ALMOST DOUBLE TO
  • 00:29:43.090 --> 00:29:44.140
  • WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
  • 00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:46.200
  • SO YOU ARE CONNECTING TO THE
  • 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:47.120
  • AUDIENCE OF TBN.
  • 00:29:48.170 --> 00:29:51.170
  • - LAURIE: A WHOLE LOT OF WORN
  • 00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:52.230
  • - MATT: WHICH, BY THE WAY, AIRS
  • 00:29:55.290 --> 00:29:56.210
  • SUNDAYS AT 10:30 EASTERN
  • 00:29:56.210 --> 00:29:58.210
  • IS YOUR TALK SHOW
  • 00:29:58.210 --> 00:29:59.130
  • AND 9 A.M. EASTERN,
  • 00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.160
  • LOOK, THEY ARE ALL
  • 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.040
  • OVER THE PLACE.
  • 00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:04.040
  • ALL THE INFORMATION IS
  • 00:30:04.040 --> 00:30:06.060
  • ON THE SCREEN.
  • 00:30:06.060 --> 00:30:06.220
  • I CAN'T SEE THAT, THE PRINT
  • 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:09.000
  • IS TOO SMALL.
  • 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:09.170
  • LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
  • 00:30:09.170 --> 00:30:11.230
  • BUT THERE IS A TON OF FOLK THAT
  • 00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:14.090
  • WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HOW THEY CAN
  • 00:30:14.090 --> 00:30:16.290
  • DROP THE SHAME AND
  • 00:30:17.270 --> 00:30:20.270
  • AND HOW THEY CAN BE TOTALLY
  • 00:30:24.130 --> 00:30:25.210
  • FREE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE SET
  • 00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:28.040
  • IT UP IN A WAY TONIGHT THAT HAS
  • 00:30:28.040 --> 00:30:30.170
  • NEVER REALLY BEEN SET UP THE WAY
  • 00:30:30.170 --> 00:30:33.030
  • IT IS.
  • 00:30:33.030 --> 00:30:34.170
  • AND I APPRECIATE WHERE THIS IS
  • 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:35.160
  • GOING SO FAR.
  • 00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:36.260
  • BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE A ONE OF
  • 00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:38.270
  • ONE CONVERSATION.
  • 00:30:38.270 --> 00:30:41.070
  • IF YOU THINK SOMETHING BAD
  • 00:30:41.070 --> 00:30:44.020
  • HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE AND THAT
  • 00:30:44.020 --> 00:30:45.170
  • YOU DIDN'T PRAY ENOUGH, IT WAS
  • 00:30:45.170 --> 00:30:48.160
  • SOMEHOW YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG
  • 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:50.010
  • SO THIS BAD STUFF HAPPENED AND
  • 00:30:50.010 --> 00:30:51.120
  • NOW YOU ARE LIVING WITH THAT
  • 00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:53.000
  • SHAME AND GUILT AND YOU PUT ON A
  • 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.180
  • PERFORMANCE AND A MASK AND ALL
  • 00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:56.130
  • THAT, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE IS
  • 00:30:56.130 --> 00:30:57.220
  • GOING TO HELP YOU.
  • 00:30:57.220 --> 00:30:59.070
  • SO CREFLO, TAFFI, TEACH TO US
  • 00:30:59.070 --> 00:31:01.040
  • NOW HOW IT WORKED FOR YOU.
  • 00:31:01.070 --> 00:31:04.070
  • YOU WENT FROM A MIXTURE BASED
  • 00:31:04.070 --> 00:31:07.020
  • FAITH WITH NOTHING HAPPENING IN
  • 00:31:08.180 --> 00:31:11.180
  • ESSENCE TO A GRACE MESSAGE THAT
  • 00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:13.140
  • CHANGED YOU.
  • 00:31:13.140 --> 00:31:16.140
  • HOW DID YOU GET RID OF SHAME?
  • 00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:18.070
  • - CREFLO: THE BIBLE SAYS HE
  • 00:31:18.070 --> 00:31:21.050
  • THAT BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL NOT
  • 00:31:21.050 --> 00:31:24.000
  • BE PUT TO SHAME.
  • 00:31:24.090 --> 00:31:27.090
  • AND THE BIGGEST EYE-OPENER FOR
  • 00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:32.120
  • ME, I HAD TO ASK MY QUESTION, DO
  • 00:31:32.170 --> 00:31:35.170
  • I BELIEVE IN JESUS?
  • 00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:37.120
  • DO I BELIEVE HE DIED FOR MY
  • 00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:40.220
  • SINS, PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE?
  • 00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:42.270
  • PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
  • 00:31:42.270 --> 00:31:45.070
  • I BELIEVE JESUS DIED FOR MY SINS
  • 00:31:45.070 --> 00:31:47.240
  • PAST, AMEN, I BELIEVE HE DIED
  • 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.120
  • FOR MY SIN PRESENT, AMEN.
  • 00:31:50.130 --> 00:31:53.130
  • BUT BOY, DO THEY HAVE A HARD
  • 00:31:53.130 --> 00:31:54.260
  • TIME BELIEVING THAT HE DIED FOR
  • 00:31:54.260 --> 00:31:56.000
  • THEIR FUTURE SINS, WHEN IN FACT,
  • 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.060
  • WHEN JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS,
  • 00:31:58.060 --> 00:31:59.080
  • ALL OF OUR SINS WERE IN
  • 00:31:59.080 --> 00:32:00.100
  • THE FUTURE ALREADY.
  • 00:32:00.100 --> 00:32:01.290
  • BUT I HAD TO BELIEVE
  • 00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:05.210
  • WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:06.210
  • WHAT DID HE SAY?
  • 00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:08.280
  • HE SAYS I'VE FORGIVEN YOU.
  • 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.200
  • HE SAYS THE WORKS I FINISHED.
  • 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.190
  • I'VE MADE YOU RIGHTEOUS.
  • 00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:18.160
  • YOU ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS BASED ON
  • 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.070
  • WHAT YOU DO BUT YOU ARE
  • 00:32:19.070 --> 00:32:20.080
  • RIGHTEOUS BASED ON WHAT I DO.
  • 00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:21.110
  • SO PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, I GUESS
  • 00:32:21.110 --> 00:32:23.070
  • THE FIRST THING WE DID, TAFFI,
  • 00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:27.220
  • WE RECOGNIZED THIS THIS ISN'T
  • 00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:28.280
  • WORKING.
  • 00:32:28.280 --> 00:32:31.020
  • AND I THOUGHT GOD WAS MAD AT ME.
  • 00:32:31.110 --> 00:32:34.110
  • GOD SAYS I'M NOT EVEN IN A BAD
  • 00:32:34.110 --> 00:32:37.060
  • MOOD, WHY DO YOU GO AROUND
  • 00:32:37.060 --> 00:32:38.130
  • THINKING I'M MAD AT YOU ALL THE
  • 00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:39.220
  • TIME?
  • 00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:40.150
  • BECAUSE PEOPLE TELL ME, GOD'S
  • 00:32:40.150 --> 00:32:42.100
  • MAD AT YOU.
  • 00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:42.260
  • PEOPLE USED TO SAY, I TELL YOU
  • 00:32:42.260 --> 00:32:45.130
  • WHAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN HELL
  • 00:32:45.130 --> 00:32:46.150
  • BY NOON, BOY, YOU BETTER GET--
  • 00:32:46.150 --> 00:32:48.080
  • GOD'S GONNA GET YOU, GOD'S GONNA
  • 00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:49.180
  • GET YOU.
  • 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:50.050
  • IF GOD'S GONNA GET YOU, YOU'D
  • 00:32:50.050 --> 00:32:50.260
  • HAVE BEEN GOT.
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:51.140
  • SO PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, I HAD
  • 00:32:52.050 --> 00:32:55.050
  • TO COME FACE-TO-FACE WITH MY
  • 00:32:56.060 --> 00:32:59.060
  • FRUSTRATION THAT, THIS IS TOO
  • 00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:00.230
  • MUCH GOING IN TO PRAY TWO HOURS.
  • 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.000
  • I'M LIKE, I'M GOING IN TO PRAY
  • 00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:08.040
  • OVER, I'M PRAYING HARD AND I
  • 00:33:08.040 --> 00:33:09.090
  • LOOK UP AND I'VE BEEN IN THERE
  • 00:33:09.090 --> 00:33:11.100
  • 45 MINUTES AND I LOOK AT MY
  • 00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:12.170
  • CLOCK, ONLY TWO MINUTES.
  • 00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:13.200
  • THINKING, GOD, I'M NOT LOOKING
  • 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.200
  • FORWARD TO THIS.
  • 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.230
  • GOD SAYS, I'M NOT LOOKING
  • 00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:16.290
  • FORWARD TO IT EITHER.
  • 00:33:16.290 --> 00:33:17.190
  • (LAUGHTER)
  • 00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:18.290
  • WHY?
  • 00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:22.220
  • BECAUSE HE WANTS THIS TIME TO BE
  • 00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:23.140
  • A TIME OF COMMUNION, NOT JUST
  • 00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:24.050
  • WHAT YOU DO WITHIN A TWO HOUR
  • 00:33:24.050 --> 00:33:24.260
  • PERIOD IN THE MORNING, BUT WHERE
  • 00:33:24.260 --> 00:33:25.200
  • YOU HAVE COMMUNION WITH HIM ALL
  • 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.200
  • DAY LONG.
  • 00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.250
  • AND INVOLVE HIM IN YOUR LIFE ALL
  • 00:33:28.250 --> 00:33:30.190
  • DAY LONG.
  • 00:33:30.190 --> 00:33:32.020
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:33:32.020 --> 00:33:33.250
  • HELP ME TO PRACTICALLY PUT-- I
  • 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.240
  • GOT TIRED.
  • 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.110
  • I JUST GOT TIRED.
  • 00:33:39.110 --> 00:33:41.180
  • - TAFFI: I THINK SO, I THINK
  • 00:33:41.180 --> 00:33:43.270
  • THE FACT THAT WE REALIZED IT
  • 00:33:43.270 --> 00:33:45.210
  • WASN'T WHAT WE WERE DOING THAT
  • 00:33:45.210 --> 00:33:48.070
  • WOULD ENABLE GOD TO BE PLEASED
  • 00:33:48.070 --> 00:33:50.100
  • WITH US PER SE BUT HAVING MORE
  • 00:33:50.100 --> 00:33:52.220
  • FAITH IN WHAT JESUS DID AND
  • 00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:54.140
  • THROUGH HIM WE UNDERSTOOD THAT
  • 00:33:54.140 --> 00:33:57.060
  • WE COULD BE PLEASING TO GOD.
  • 00:33:57.060 --> 00:33:59.020
  • IT WASN'T EVERY-- BEING UP ALL
  • 00:33:59.270 --> 00:34:02.290
  • NIGHT AND RUNNING AROUND TRYING
  • 00:34:02.290 --> 00:34:03.250
  • TO TAKE CARE OF TEN, TWENTY
  • 00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:06.170
  • THOUSAND PEOPLE AT ONE TIME.
  • 00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:07.200
  • BURNING OURSELVES OUT.
  • 00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:10.210
  • BUT IT WAS REALLY TEACHING AND
  • 00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:13.260
  • REALLY OURSELVES AND REMINDING
  • 00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:14.170
  • OURSELVES WHAT JESUS ALREADY
  • 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:16.000
  • DID, WHAT HIS BLOOD ALREADY
  • 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:17.000
  • APPROPRIATED FOR US.
  • 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.210
  • I THINK SOMETIMES WE CAN WAKE UP
  • 00:34:18.210 --> 00:34:20.170
  • THINKING ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS
  • 00:34:21.290 --> 00:34:24.290
  • IN ORDER TO PLEASE GOD BUT IT IS
  • 00:34:24.290 --> 00:34:26.200
  • REALLY HAVING FAITH AND THAT IS
  • 00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:28.260
  • WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS, FAITH
  • 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:31.100
  • IN WHAT THE BLOOD HAS DONE FOR
  • 00:34:31.100 --> 00:34:33.130
  • US AND SO WE HAVE FAITH, HE
  • 00:34:33.130 --> 00:34:34.280
  • ANSWERS OUR PRAYERS BASED ON
  • 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.200
  • JESUS MAKING US RIGHTEOUS THAT
  • 00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:39.210
  • WE ARE RIGHT WITH GOD, NOT
  • 00:34:39.210 --> 00:34:41.210
  • BECAUSE WE DO ALL THE RIGHT
  • 00:34:41.210 --> 00:34:43.130
  • THINGS, BUT BECAUSE WE RECEIVE
  • 00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:45.150
  • JESUS AS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:46.290
  • I HAVE MY PRAYERS ANSWERED.
  • 00:34:46.290 --> 00:34:49.100
  • I HAVE ACCESS TO GOD, I CAN HAVE
  • 00:34:49.100 --> 00:34:51.100
  • FORGIVENESS, I CAN BE IN AN OPEN
  • 00:34:52.110 --> 00:34:55.110
  • HEAVEN, WE JUST GOT OVER IN WHAT
  • 00:34:57.010 --> 00:35:00.030
  • JESUS ACCOMPLISHED.
  • 00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:01.210
  • - CREFLO: AND STARTED BEHOLDING
  • 00:35:01.210 --> 00:35:02.140
  • HIM.
  • 00:35:02.140 --> 00:35:03.040
  • I THINK IF YOU PUT THAT
  • 00:35:03.040 --> 00:35:03.240
  • TOGETHER, WE STARTED UNVEILING
  • 00:35:03.240 --> 00:35:06.100
  • JESUS.
  • 00:35:06.100 --> 00:35:08.200
  • - TAFFI: WHAT HE MADE
  • 00:35:08.200 --> 00:35:10.050
  • AVAILABLE.
  • 00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:11.230
  • - CREFLO: WHAT HE MADE
  • 00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:12.120
  • AVAILABLE.
  • 00:35:12.120 --> 00:35:12.290
  • IT IS LIKE AN ONION.
  • 00:35:12.290 --> 00:35:14.160
  • WE STARTED PEELING THE LAYERS
  • 00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:16.050
  • BACK AND WE STARTED PEELING IT
  • 00:35:16.050 --> 00:35:19.010
  • BACK AND THERE ARE MORE LAYERS
  • 00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:21.150
  • AND MORE LAYERS WE WOULD PEEL
  • 00:35:21.150 --> 00:35:23.230
  • BACK AND BEHOLD HIM.
  • 00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:25.140
  • THE MORE WE COULD BEHOLD HIM AND
  • 00:35:25.140 --> 00:35:26.290
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT STARTED CHANGING
  • 00:35:26.290 --> 00:35:28.220
  • US.
  • 00:35:28.220 --> 00:35:31.100
  • AND AS WE BEHOLD HIM, THE HOLY
  • 00:35:31.100 --> 00:35:33.010
  • SPIRIT IS CHANGING ME AND WE
  • 00:35:33.010 --> 00:35:35.100
  • BEHOLD HIM AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:35:35.100 --> 00:35:37.030
  • IS CHANGING ME AND I'M THINKING,
  • 00:35:37.030 --> 00:35:38.170
  • WHAT'S GOING ON?
  • 00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:39.290
  • I'M NOT FREAKING OUT BECAUSE THE
  • 00:35:39.290 --> 00:35:42.020
  • BUDGET WAS NOT MET.
  • 00:35:42.020 --> 00:35:44.070
  • IN THE NEW YORK CHURCH.
  • 00:35:44.070 --> 00:35:45.150
  • I'M NOT TRIPPING OUT BECAUSE
  • 00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:47.010
  • THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THIS OTHER
  • 00:35:47.010 --> 00:35:49.230
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:35:49.230 --> 00:35:51.000
  • AND PRAISE GOD, IT'S FINE.
  • 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.010
  • I'M WALKING WITH PEACE.
  • 00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:54.050
  • I'M NOT SWEATING THE SMALL
  • 00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:54.270
  • STUFF.
  • 00:35:54.270 --> 00:35:56.080
  • WHAT'S GOING ON?
  • 00:35:56.080 --> 00:35:56.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:35:57.070 --> 00:36:00.090
  • I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON,
  • 00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:01.260
  • THE MORE WE COULD BEHOLD HIM,
  • 00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:04.200
  • THE MORE WE COULD SEE HIM,
  • 00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:15.240
  • - MATT: I NEVER HEARD ANYONE
  • 00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:16.150
  • CONNECT TO THAT STORY ABOUT THIS
  • 00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:17.070
  • ONLY COMES OUT BY FASTING AND
  • 00:36:17.070 --> 00:36:18.170
  • PRAYER, RELATING TO FAITH AND
  • 00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:19.180
  • UNBELIEF.
  • 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.280
  • THAT IS A GAME CHANGER.
  • 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.070
  • BECAUSE WHAT YOU NEED TO PRAY
  • 00:36:25.070 --> 00:36:27.110
  • AND FAST IS THAT YOU CAN BELIEVE
  • 00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:28.200
  • THAT IT'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:36:28.200 --> 00:36:30.180
  • THAT YOU-- LITERALLY, LET ME
  • 00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:33.080
  • TELL SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO KIND
  • 00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:36.260
  • OF REALIZE THAT, I'VE SAT HERE
  • 00:36:39.160 --> 00:36:42.160
  • AND INTERVIEWED A BUNCH OF FOLK
  • 00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:44.220
  • AND THAT IS IN THE TOP FIVE OF
  • 00:36:44.220 --> 00:36:47.020
  • ANYTHING I EVER HEARD.
  • 00:36:47.020 --> 00:36:48.030
  • I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS WHAT
  • 00:36:48.030 --> 00:36:49.030
  • THAT SCRIPTURE WAS EVEN
  • 00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:53.100
  • REFERENCING, THAT CHANGES THINGS
  • 00:36:53.100 --> 00:36:54.270
  • UNBELIEVABLY.
  • 00:36:54.270 --> 00:36:57.210
  • - LAURIE: I KNOW, I HAD A
  • 00:36:57.210 --> 00:36:59.030
  • EXPERIENCE MAYBE 15, 20
  • 00:36:59.030 --> 00:37:01.190
  • YEARS AGO.
  • 00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:03.290
  • WE WERE LIVING UP IN HOLLYWOOD.
  • 00:37:03.290 --> 00:37:05.270
  • WE WERE TRYING DO MOVIES AND WE
  • 00:37:05.270 --> 00:37:08.230
  • WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE COULD.
  • 00:37:08.230 --> 00:37:10.030
  • I WAS RAISED IN THE WORD OF
  • 00:37:10.030 --> 00:37:12.290
  • FAITH AND I WAS JUST THINKING,
  • 00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:16.170
  • GOD, IF THIS ISN'T FAITH, THEN I
  • 00:37:16.170 --> 00:37:18.130
  • DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M MISSING IT.
  • 00:37:18.230 --> 00:37:21.230
  • AND I WAS KIND OF JUST LOST AND
  • 00:37:21.230 --> 00:37:23.060
  • WE WERE GIVING EVERYTHING WE HAD
  • 00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:27.160
  • TO TRY TO DO WHAT I FELT WE WERE
  • 00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:28.080
  • CALLED TO DO, WE WERE STRUGGLING
  • 00:37:28.080 --> 00:37:29.160
  • HARD FINANCIALLY, SELLING CARS,
  • 00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:30.280
  • SELLING OUR KIDS, SELLING-- I
  • 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.230
  • WAS NOT SELLING MY KIDS, SORRY.
  • 00:37:32.230 --> 00:37:35.030
  • BUT, JUST STRUGGLING.
  • 00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:38.190
  • AND IT WAS AWFUL.
  • 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.280
  • AND I WALKED OUTSIDE AND I WAS
  • 00:37:43.150 --> 00:37:46.150
  • TAKING MY DOGS OUT AND I SAT
  • 00:37:46.150 --> 00:37:47.290
  • DOWN OUTSIDE AND I SAID WITH MY
  • 00:37:49.230 --> 00:37:52.230
  • MOUTH, OUT FROM-- I BELIEVED IT
  • 00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:55.260
  • WAS GOOD INTENTIONS, BUT I SAID,
  • 00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:58.240
  • GOD, AND I WAS DESPERATE.
  • 00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:01.200
  • I SAID GOD, IF YOU COULD JUST
  • 00:38:01.200 --> 00:38:02.270
  • KEEP US FROM SCRAMBLING SO HARD,
  • 00:38:03.100 --> 00:38:06.100
  • I SAID, LOOK AT ALL WE COULD BE
  • 00:38:07.030 --> 00:38:10.030
  • DOING FOR YOU AND WHEN I SAID
  • 00:38:11.110 --> 00:38:14.110
  • THAT, IT WAS LIKE GOD SLUGGED ME
  • 00:38:14.110 --> 00:38:16.200
  • IN THE GUT WITH THE MOST LOVING
  • 00:38:17.140 --> 00:38:20.140
  • TWO BY FOUR.
  • 00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:22.170
  • AND I SAID MAN, THAT IS THE MOST
  • 00:38:22.170 --> 00:38:24.270
  • ARROGANT THING I HAVE EVER HEARD
  • 00:38:24.270 --> 00:38:26.180
  • ANYBODY SAY.
  • 00:38:26.180 --> 00:38:29.100
  • AND I SAID IT.
  • 00:38:29.100 --> 00:38:30.160
  • OUT OF MY MOUTH.
  • 00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:31.290
  • LOOK AT ALL I COULD BE DOING FOR
  • 00:38:31.290 --> 00:38:34.200
  • YOU IF YOU JUST STOP MAKING US
  • 00:38:34.200 --> 00:38:35.170
  • STRUGGLE SO HARD.
  • 00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:36.260
  • - MATT: PERFORMANCE.
  • 00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:38.130
  • - LAURIE: GOD SAID BABY, DON'T
  • 00:38:38.130 --> 00:38:39.190
  • YOU EVER THINK IT IS ANYTHING
  • 00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:42.020
  • YOU DO FOR ME.
  • 00:38:42.020 --> 00:38:43.030
  • IT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR YOU.
  • 00:38:43.030 --> 00:38:44.110
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:38:49.100 --> 00:38:52.100
  • - CREFLO: SO, I THOUGHT I WAS
  • 00:38:52.100 --> 00:38:54.020
  • LIVING FOR GOD UNTIL I RECENTLY
  • 00:38:54.020 --> 00:38:56.180
  • RECOGNIZED THAT IT'S GOD DOES
  • 00:38:56.290 --> 00:38:59.290
  • LIVING FOR ME.
  • 00:38:59.290 --> 00:39:02.170
  • - MATT: COME ON, NOW, THAT'S
  • 00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:03.080
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:05.100
  • - CREFLO: HE'S LIVING FOR ME.
  • 00:39:05.100 --> 00:39:06.260
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:07.270
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:39:07.270 --> 00:39:08.210
  • - CREFLO: HE IS LIVING FOR ME.
  • 00:39:12.020 --> 00:39:15.020
  • HERE'S A $100 BILL.
  • 00:39:15.020 --> 00:39:15.290
  • - MATT: IT SURE IS.
  • 00:39:15.290 --> 00:39:16.160
  • I JUST NOTICED THAT.
  • 00:39:16.160 --> 00:39:18.000
  • - LAURIE: (LAUGHTER).
  • 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:19.190
  • - CREFLO: IT'S ALREADY DONE,
  • 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:20.100
  • RIGHT?
  • 00:39:20.100 --> 00:39:21.110
  • WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THIS.
  • 00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:25.130
  • WE DON'T NEED TO MANUFACTURE IT.
  • 00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:27.000
  • COULD YOU USE A $100 BILL?
  • 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.060
  • - LAURIE: I COULD.
  • 00:39:28.120 --> 00:39:31.120
  • - CREFLO: OKAY, WELL, IT'S
  • 00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:32.180
  • HERE.
  • 00:39:32.180 --> 00:39:33.270
  • IT'S ALREADY MANUFACTURED.
  • 00:39:33.270 --> 00:39:36.030
  • IT'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:39:36.140 --> 00:39:39.140
  • IF YOU PAUSE FOR A MOMENT, THIS
  • 00:39:39.140 --> 00:39:40.190
  • REPRESENTS WHERE THE CHURCH IS
  • 00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:42.020
  • TODAY.
  • 00:39:42.020 --> 00:39:43.010
  • IT IS ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:39:43.010 --> 00:39:44.100
  • WE ARE STILL HESITATING.
  • 00:39:44.100 --> 00:39:45.280
  • WE'RE THINKING LIKE HE IS GOING
  • 00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:49.160
  • TO DROP INTO OUR LAP.
  • 00:39:49.170 --> 00:39:52.170
  • HE SAID IT'S FINISHED.
  • 00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:54.070
  • YOU SAY, OH, BUT GOD, I NEED IT,
  • 00:39:54.070 --> 00:39:55.050
  • HE SAID, NO, BUT IT'S DONE.
  • 00:39:55.050 --> 00:39:56.170
  • YOU SAY GOD, I WANT IT, YEAH,
  • 00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:58.070
  • BUT IT'S DONE.
  • 00:39:58.070 --> 00:39:59.070
  • SO NOW, GRACE ALREADY MADE IT.
  • 00:40:01.050 --> 00:40:04.050
  • JESUS PROVIDED IT.
  • 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:05.130
  • IT'S FINISHED.
  • 00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:06.020
  • NOW OUR PART.
  • 00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:09.090
  • IS TO TAKE IT.
  • 00:40:09.090 --> 00:40:11.050
  • TAKE THAT.
  • 00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:13.000
  • - MATT: THANK YOU.
  • 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:14.190
  • THEN IT GOES TO THE WIFE
  • 00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:17.160
  • IMMEDIATELY.
  • 00:40:17.160 --> 00:40:19.020
  • - LAURIE: MORE THAN A CONQUEROR
  • 00:40:19.020 --> 00:40:19.250
  • RIGHT HERE.
  • 00:40:19.250 --> 00:40:20.100
  • - CREFLO: HERE'S THE STORY.
  • 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:21.060
  • AROUND THAT.
  • 00:40:21.060 --> 00:40:22.240
  • HEALING'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:25.150
  • TAKE IT.
  • 00:40:25.150 --> 00:40:27.180
  • DELIVERANCE IS ALREADY DONE,
  • 00:40:27.180 --> 00:40:28.090
  • TAKE IT.
  • 00:40:28.090 --> 00:40:29.190
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:29.190 --> 00:40:31.140
  • YOUR PROSPERITY IS ALREADY DONE,
  • 00:40:31.140 --> 00:40:32.060
  • TAKE IT.
  • 00:40:32.060 --> 00:40:34.170
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:36.050
  • WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE FROM A
  • 00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:38.030
  • DEMAND MENTALITY TO A SUPPLY
  • 00:40:38.030 --> 00:40:40.080
  • MENTALITY.
  • 00:40:40.080 --> 00:40:41.280
  • AND WHEN WE SEE JESUS AS OUR
  • 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.270
  • SUPPLY HOUSE, WE TAKE AND WE
  • 00:40:43.270 --> 00:40:46.040
  • RECEIVE AND WE APPROPRIATE.
  • 00:40:46.040 --> 00:40:48.270
  • BECAUSE HERE'S THE TRUTH.
  • 00:40:48.270 --> 00:40:51.140
  • IF GRACE HADN'T MADE IT, FAITH
  • 00:40:51.140 --> 00:40:54.000
  • CAN'T TAKE IT.
  • 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.120
  • - MATT: HELLO, FAITH DOESN'T
  • 00:40:56.120 --> 00:40:57.090
  • MAKE; FAITH TAKES.
  • 00:41:04.180 --> 00:41:07.180
  • AND WE KEEP TRYING TO GET FAITH
  • 00:41:07.180 --> 00:41:08.150
  • TO MAKE ONLY WHAT GRACE MAKES.
  • 00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:09.160
  • WE WERE SAVED BY GRACE BUT WE
  • 00:41:09.160 --> 00:41:10.100
  • GOT IF HOW?
  • 00:41:10.100 --> 00:41:11.170
  • THROUGH FAITH.
  • 00:41:11.170 --> 00:41:12.270
  • WE WERE HEALED BY GRACE, BUT WE
  • 00:41:12.270 --> 00:41:13.260
  • GOT IT HOW?
  • 00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:14.270
  • THROUGH FAITH.
  • 00:41:14.270 --> 00:41:16.060
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:41:16.060 --> 00:41:17.160
  • - CREFLO: WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
  • 00:41:17.160 --> 00:41:18.090
  • DO IS USE OUR FAITH TO MAKE
  • 00:41:18.090 --> 00:41:19.050
  • SOMETHING WHEN OUR FAITH TAKES,
  • 00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:20.270
  • JESUS HAS PROVIDED EVERYTHING WE
  • 00:41:20.270 --> 00:41:23.020
  • WILL EVER NEED.
  • 00:41:23.020 --> 00:41:24.250
  • HAVE FAITH IN GOD.
  • 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:27.190
  • AND APPROPRIATE WHAT'S ALREADY
  • 00:41:27.190 --> 00:41:28.200
  • BEEN DONE.
  • 00:41:28.200 --> 00:41:29.260
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:41:29.260 --> 00:41:30.090
  • THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
  • 00:41:30.090 --> 00:41:32.250
  • - LAURIE: WE WANT GOD TO MOVE,
  • 00:41:32.250 --> 00:41:35.200
  • GOD MOVE ON OUR BEHALF AND HE
  • 00:41:35.200 --> 00:41:37.270
  • GOES, MAN, I MOVE AND IT ONLY
  • 00:41:37.270 --> 00:41:39.170
  • TOOK ME ONE TIME.
  • 00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:41.040
  • I MOVED REAL BIG TWO THOUSAND
  • 00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:42.170
  • YEARS AGO.
  • 00:41:42.170 --> 00:41:43.060
  • I DID IT.
  • 00:41:43.060 --> 00:41:43.200
  • - CREFLO: HE'S MOVED.
  • 00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:44.150
  • NOW HE'S WAITING ON YOU TO MOVE.
  • 00:41:44.150 --> 00:41:46.050
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:47.070
  • - CREFLO: AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE
  • 00:41:47.070 --> 00:41:49.040
  • DONE, WE TRY TO USE OUR FAITH TO
  • 00:41:49.040 --> 00:41:50.160
  • MAKE GOD DO SOMETHING HE'S
  • 00:41:50.160 --> 00:41:53.080
  • ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:54.080
  • TO MAKE SOMETHING BECOME
  • 00:41:54.110 --> 00:41:57.110
  • AVAILABLE THAT'S ALREADY
  • 00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:58.240
  • AVAILABLE.
  • 00:41:58.240 --> 00:41:59.190
  • WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE WILL
  • 00:42:00.250 --> 00:42:03.250
  • EVER NEED THAT PERTAINS TO LIFE
  • 00:42:03.250 --> 00:42:06.100
  • AND GODLINESS NOW.
  • 00:42:06.140 --> 00:42:09.140
  • WE LABOR TO ENTER INTO
  • 00:42:11.070 --> 00:42:11.240
  • THE REST.
  • 00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:13.050
  • WHEN I TALK ABOUT REST, I'M NOT
  • 00:42:13.050 --> 00:42:14.130
  • TALKING ABOUT INACTIVITY.
  • 00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:18.120
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT RESTING IN
  • 00:42:18.120 --> 00:42:19.280
  • YOUR WORK.
  • 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.290
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT RESTING
  • 00:42:21.290 --> 00:42:23.170
  • WITHOUT STRESSING.
  • 00:42:23.170 --> 00:42:25.070
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT KNOWING WITH
  • 00:42:25.070 --> 00:42:26.160
  • CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S ALREADY
  • 00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:27.260
  • DONE TO SUCH A POINT WHEN YOU
  • 00:42:27.260 --> 00:42:29.140
  • ENTER INTO THAT REST, THERE'S
  • 00:42:29.140 --> 00:42:31.290
  • NOTHING ELSE LEFT TO DO BUT TO
  • 00:42:31.290 --> 00:42:33.080
  • WORSHIP AND PRAISE GOD FOR WHAT
  • 00:42:33.080 --> 00:42:34.250
  • HE'S ALREADY DONE.
  • 00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:35.220
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:42:35.220 --> 00:42:38.050
  • - MATT: SO, IF I TAKE SOME VERY
  • 00:42:41.050 --> 00:42:44.050
  • UNIQUE THINGS I LEARNED TONIGHT,
  • 00:42:44.050 --> 00:42:45.210
  • I ASKED YOU TO PRAY FOR HEALING.
  • 00:42:45.210 --> 00:42:48.050
  • YOUR RESPONSE WAS, IT'S GOING TO
  • 00:42:48.050 --> 00:42:50.110
  • BE A VERY QUICK PRAYER.
  • 00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:51.260
  • BUT IF I ASK YOU TO PRAY TO
  • 00:42:51.260 --> 00:42:54.010
  • BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THAT
  • 00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:56.160
  • MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE.
  • 00:42:56.160 --> 00:42:58.030
  • THAT'S WHAT JESUS WAS TALKING
  • 00:42:58.030 --> 00:43:00.020
  • ABOUT TO THE DISCIPLES.
  • 00:43:00.020 --> 00:43:02.080
  • IT MAY TAKE FASTING AND PRAYER
  • 00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:04.260
  • TO BELIEVE THE SIMPLICITY OF THE
  • 00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:06.260
  • WORK OF THE CROSS.
  • 00:43:06.260 --> 00:43:08.050
  • BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT, YOU DON'T
  • 00:43:08.050 --> 00:43:10.050
  • GET ANYTHING OUT OF THE CROSS.
  • 00:43:10.050 --> 00:43:11.250
  • YOU DON'T EVEN GET SALVATION
  • 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:12.170
  • UNTIL YOU BELIEVE.
  • 00:43:12.170 --> 00:43:13.200
  • SO IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE
  • 00:43:13.210 --> 00:43:16.210
  • REDEMPTIVE WORK OF THE CROSS, IF
  • 00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:19.240
  • YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, GOD HELP
  • 00:43:19.240 --> 00:43:21.100
  • YOU.
  • 00:43:21.100 --> 00:43:22.200
  • YOU LIVE A PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:43:22.200 --> 00:43:24.290
  • LIFE THAT EVERYTHING IS YOUR
  • 00:43:24.290 --> 00:43:26.080
  • FAULT AND YOU HAVE SHAME.
  • 00:43:26.080 --> 00:43:27.060
  • - CREFLO: HERE IS HOW YOU FALL
  • 00:43:27.060 --> 00:43:28.110
  • FROM GRACE.
  • 00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:28.260
  • FALLING FROM GRACE IS NOT
  • 00:43:28.260 --> 00:43:30.140
  • FALLING IN SIN.
  • 00:43:30.140 --> 00:43:31.240
  • FALLING FROM GRACE IS FALLING
  • 00:43:31.240 --> 00:43:34.090
  • BACK TO YOUR PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:43:34.090 --> 00:43:36.010
  • SELF EFFORT BASED LIFE.
  • 00:43:36.010 --> 00:43:38.290
  • GALATIANS 5 SAYS THAT CHRIST
  • 00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:45.150
  • HAS NO EFFECT BECAUSE YOU THINK
  • 00:43:46.050 --> 00:43:49.050
  • NOW THAT YOU ARE MADE OR
  • 00:43:49.050 --> 00:43:51.240
  • JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW.
  • 00:43:51.240 --> 00:43:53.260
  • WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU HAVE FALLEN
  • 00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:55.190
  • FROM GRACE.
  • 00:43:55.190 --> 00:43:56.260
  • IMAGINE, CHRIST DOESN'T HAVE
  • 00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:58.060
  • EFFECT WHEN YOU NEED FINANCES,
  • 00:43:58.060 --> 00:44:00.070
  • CHRIST DOESN'T HAVE EFFECT WHEN
  • 00:44:00.070 --> 00:44:01.280
  • YOU ARE SICK.
  • 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.240
  • CHRIST DOESN'T HAVE EFFECT--
  • 00:44:02.240 --> 00:44:03.270
  • MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY, THE
  • 00:44:03.270 --> 00:44:04.290
  • REASON WHY CHRIST DOESN'T HAVE
  • 00:44:04.290 --> 00:44:06.080
  • EFFECT IS BECAUSE OF SIN.
  • 00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:07.120
  • IT'S SIN THAT, IS WHY CHRIST
  • 00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:09.150
  • DOESN'T HAVE EFFECT.
  • 00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:10.010
  • NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:10.240
  • EVERYBODY BEFORE JESUS LEFT THE
  • 00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:13.190
  • EARTH, THEY WERE SINNERS AND HE
  • 00:44:13.190 --> 00:44:14.270
  • WENT INTO SOME OF THOSE VILLAGES
  • 00:44:14.270 --> 00:44:16.170
  • AND HEALED EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN
  • 00:44:16.170 --> 00:44:18.130
  • THE VILLAGE AND THEY WEREN'T
  • 00:44:18.130 --> 00:44:19.030
  • EVEN BORN AGAIN.
  • 00:44:19.030 --> 00:44:20.170
  • WHAT'S THE DEAL?
  • 00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:21.200
  • IT'S WHEN YOU THINK THAT YOUR
  • 00:44:22.060 --> 00:44:25.060
  • PERFORMANCE, THAT YOUR SELF
  • 00:44:25.060 --> 00:44:27.050
  • EFFORT IS ENOUGH AND THEN YOU
  • 00:44:27.200 --> 00:44:30.200
  • TRY TO HAVE FAITH IN YOUR SELF
  • 00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:33.170
  • EFFORT AND YOUR PERFORMANCE, IT
  • 00:44:33.170 --> 00:44:35.090
  • VOIDS FAITH.
  • 00:44:36.200 --> 00:44:39.200
  • YOU DON'T NEED FAITH TO TRY TO
  • 00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:41.130
  • LIVE BY YOUR PERFORMANCE.
  • 00:44:41.130 --> 00:44:43.160
  • YOU DON'T NEED FAITH-- BUT I DO
  • 00:44:43.160 --> 00:44:45.190
  • NEED FAITH TO LIVE BY, I'VE BEEN
  • 00:44:45.190 --> 00:44:47.020
  • MADE RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE OF WHAT
  • 00:44:47.020 --> 00:44:49.060
  • JESUS HAS DONE, EVEN THOUGH I
  • 00:44:49.060 --> 00:44:50.140
  • DON'T DO RIGHT.
  • 00:44:50.140 --> 00:44:52.150
  • PEOPLE GO, ARE YOU TRYING TO
  • 00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.230
  • JUSTIFY SIN?
  • 00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:55.200
  • I'M NOT JUSTIFYING SIN.
  • 00:44:55.200 --> 00:44:56.220
  • I'M SAYING, I'VE BEEN MADE
  • 00:44:56.220 --> 00:44:58.030
  • RIGHTEOUS AND IF I BELIEVE I'M
  • 00:44:58.030 --> 00:44:59.190
  • THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD, THE
  • 00:44:59.190 --> 00:45:01.140
  • DAY I RECEIVE THAT IDENTITY, IT
  • 00:45:01.140 --> 00:45:03.050
  • WILL PRODUCE THE BEHAVIOR OF
  • 00:45:03.050 --> 00:45:05.030
  • RIGHTEOUSNESS.
  • 00:45:05.030 --> 00:45:07.150
  • WE'VE BEEN ALLOWING OUR BAD
  • 00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:08.170
  • BEHAVIOR TO DETERMINE OUR
  • 00:45:08.170 --> 00:45:09.270
  • IDENTITY.
  • 00:45:09.270 --> 00:45:10.250
  • WE'VE BEEN TRAINED.
  • 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.000
  • YOUR BEHAVIOR IS WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.070
  • YOU ACT BAD, SO YOU ARE BAD.
  • 00:45:16.070 --> 00:45:17.120
  • IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
  • 00:45:17.120 --> 00:45:19.130
  • MY IDENTITY IN JESUS DETERMINES
  • 00:45:19.180 --> 00:45:22.180
  • MY BEHAVIOR.
  • 00:45:22.180 --> 00:45:23.240
  • AND IF I'LL JUST CHILL OUT ON
  • 00:45:23.240 --> 00:45:26.030
  • CONDEMNING PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME
  • 00:45:26.030 --> 00:45:28.010
  • TO CHURCH FOR THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR
  • 00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:29.090
  • AND GET THEM TO BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:31.010
  • THEY ARE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF
  • 00:45:31.010 --> 00:45:33.040
  • GOD, THE DAY THEY BELIEVE THEY
  • 00:45:33.040 --> 00:45:34.150
  • ARE RIGHTEOUS THEN THEY WILL
  • 00:45:34.150 --> 00:45:36.060
  • BEGIN TO PRODUCE RIGHTEOUS
  • 00:45:36.060 --> 00:45:36.290
  • BEHAVIOR.
  • 00:45:36.290 --> 00:45:38.010
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL AND THAT IS
  • 00:45:39.210 --> 00:45:42.210
  • WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WORK ON
  • 00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:44.290
  • TO BELIEVE.
  • 00:45:44.290 --> 00:45:47.110
  • THE SIMPLICITY OF THAT IS TO GO,
  • 00:45:47.110 --> 00:45:49.050
  • WAIT A SECOND, IT IS SO
  • 00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:51.200
  • COUNTERINTUITIVE, IT'S AMAZING.
  • 00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:54.070
  • - CREFLO: BELIEF WILL PRODUCE
  • 00:45:54.070 --> 00:45:56.280
  • ACTION.
  • 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.280
  • BUT ACTION WITHOUT FAITH WILL
  • 00:45:59.040 --> 00:46:02.060
  • KILL YOU.
  • 00:46:02.060 --> 00:46:03.250
  • - MATT: SAY THAT AGAIN.
  • 00:46:03.250 --> 00:46:05.120
  • - CREFLO: YOU REMEMBER THE
  • 00:46:05.120 --> 00:46:06.190
  • SAYING, FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS
  • 00:46:06.190 --> 00:46:08.210
  • DEAD.
  • 00:46:08.210 --> 00:46:09.150
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:13.230
  • - CREFLO: BUT, WORKS WITHOUT
  • 00:46:13.230 --> 00:46:14.140
  • FAITH WILL KILL YOU.
  • 00:46:14.140 --> 00:46:15.080
  • SO YOU GO OUT AND DRIVE A CAR
  • 00:46:15.080 --> 00:46:16.160
  • AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE
  • 00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:17.260
  • WITHOUT YOUR GLASSES SO YOU'RE
  • 00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:19.080
  • GOING TO TAKE YOUR GLASSES OFF
  • 00:46:19.240 --> 00:46:22.240
  • AND GO OUT AND DRIVE A CAR AND
  • 00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:23.170
  • HAVE A WRECK AND KILL EVERYBODY
  • 00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:24.150
  • IN THE CAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T
  • 00:46:24.150 --> 00:46:25.050
  • REALLY BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:26.010
  • PEOPLE DON'T DO WHAT THEY DON'T
  • 00:46:26.010 --> 00:46:26.230
  • BELIEVE.
  • 00:46:26.230 --> 00:46:27.070
  • BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:28.050
  • IS, REAL AUTHENTIC BELIEF, WHAT
  • 00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:29.120
  • IS IT THAT AUTHENTICATES BELIEF?
  • 00:46:33.130 --> 00:46:36.130
  • REST.
  • 00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:38.150
  • HOW DO I KNOW THAT I REALLY
  • 00:46:38.150 --> 00:46:39.150
  • BELIEVE SOMETHING?
  • 00:46:39.150 --> 00:46:40.200
  • I'VE ENTERED INTO THE REST.
  • 00:46:40.200 --> 00:46:43.150
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHILE
  • 00:46:43.150 --> 00:46:44.270
  • YOU ARE AT REST BELIEVING IN
  • 00:46:44.270 --> 00:46:45.170
  • GOD?
  • 00:46:45.170 --> 00:46:46.290
  • YOUR BELIEF WILL GIVE BIRTH TO
  • 00:46:46.290 --> 00:46:48.170
  • WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
  • 00:46:48.170 --> 00:46:49.220
  • WHILE I'M BELIEVING, YEAH, I'M
  • 00:46:49.220 --> 00:46:51.050
  • GOING TO FOCUS ON JESUS AND I'M
  • 00:46:51.050 --> 00:46:52.260
  • GOING TO CONFESS THE WORD.
  • 00:46:52.260 --> 00:46:54.130
  • YEAH, I'M GOING TO PRAY, I'M
  • 00:46:54.130 --> 00:46:55.280
  • GOING TO BELIEVE GOD.
  • 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.130
  • I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON LABORING
  • 00:46:58.130 --> 00:46:59.240
  • I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SITTING
  • 00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:04.080
  • BACK CHILLING OUT.
  • 00:47:04.080 --> 00:47:04.230
  • I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:05.100
  • INACTIVITY.
  • 00:47:05.100 --> 00:47:05.220
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT RESTING
  • 00:47:05.220 --> 00:47:06.240
  • IN MY WORK.
  • 00:47:06.240 --> 00:47:07.290
  • HERE'S WHAT JESUS SAID IN
  • 00:47:07.290 --> 00:47:10.170
  • JOHN 6:29 THE NEW LIVING
  • 00:47:10.170 --> 00:47:12.250
  • TRANSLATION.
  • 00:47:12.250 --> 00:47:13.200
  • HE SAID, THE ONLY WORK I WANT
  • 00:47:13.200 --> 00:47:16.130
  • YOU TO DO IS TO BELIEVE IN THE
  • 00:47:16.150 --> 00:47:19.150
  • EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR WORK.
  • 00:47:23.070 --> 00:47:23.280
  • HE SAYS, HERE'S THE ONLY WORK I
  • 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.080
  • WANT YOU TO DO.
  • 00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:26.070
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:47:26.070 --> 00:47:28.060
  • BELIEVE IN THE ONE THAT I HAVE
  • 00:47:28.060 --> 00:47:29.130
  • SENT.
  • 00:47:29.130 --> 00:47:31.020
  • NOW IF WE'LL DO THAT, THE HOLY
  • 00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:32.160
  • SPIRIT IS WORKING IN US.
  • 00:47:32.160 --> 00:47:34.100
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT NOW BEGINS TO
  • 00:47:34.100 --> 00:47:36.270
  • LEAD AND GUIDE AND DIRECTS US
  • 00:47:36.270 --> 00:47:38.050
  • AND SHOWS US.
  • 00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:39.000
  • WE FORGET ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.250
  • HE'S THE ONE THAT'S ACCEPTED THE
  • 00:47:42.040 --> 00:47:45.040
  • RESPONSIBILITY FOR CHANGING US
  • 00:47:45.040 --> 00:47:48.040
  • INTO THE IMAGE OF JESUS.
  • 00:47:48.040 --> 00:47:50.100
  • - MATT: IT'S LIKE THE OLDER
  • 00:47:50.100 --> 00:47:51.250
  • STYLE OF CHURCH THAT WE CAME
  • 00:47:51.250 --> 00:47:54.160
  • FROM.
  • 00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:56.060
  • BELIEVED THAT OUR PRAYER AND OUR
  • 00:47:56.060 --> 00:47:58.040
  • BEHAVIOR SOMEHOW COMPLETED THE
  • 00:47:58.200 --> 00:48:01.220
  • WORK OF THE CROSS.
  • 00:48:01.220 --> 00:48:03.050
  • AND THAT WE ARE SIMPLY
  • 00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:06.150
  • SURRENDERING TO THE FACT THAT
  • 00:48:06.150 --> 00:48:08.070
  • THERE IS NOTHING GOOD OR BAD I
  • 00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:11.010
  • CAN DO TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT
  • 00:48:11.010 --> 00:48:13.180
  • ME IS BELIEF IN WHAT WAS DONE
  • 00:48:13.230 --> 00:48:16.230
  • AT THE CROSS.
  • 00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:19.160
  • I WAS GETTING READY TO FLY INTO
  • 00:48:19.160 --> 00:48:20.080
  • BAGHDAD WHEN MY KIDS WERE
  • 00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:22.010
  • YOUNGER AND MY DAD HAD CALLED ME
  • 00:48:22.010 --> 00:48:24.160
  • A FEW DAYS EARLIER AND SAID,
  • 00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:26.190
  • HEY, LET'S GO TO BAGHDAD.
  • 00:48:26.190 --> 00:48:27.210
  • I SAID HECK, YEAH, LET'S GO TO
  • 00:48:27.210 --> 00:48:29.050
  • BAGHDAD.
  • 00:48:29.050 --> 00:48:29.170
  • THE WAR WAS GOING ON AND
  • 00:48:29.170 --> 00:48:31.010
  • EVERYTHING AND WE ARE GOING TO
  • 00:48:31.010 --> 00:48:33.160
  • BRING IN SOME HELP AND
  • 00:48:33.160 --> 00:48:36.090
  • ASSISTANCE AND THEN AT FIVE
  • 00:48:36.090 --> 00:48:38.180
  • O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING I WAS
  • 00:48:38.180 --> 00:48:39.080
  • GETTING READY TO BOARD AN
  • 00:48:39.080 --> 00:48:40.210
  • AIRPLANE FOR BAGHDAD TO FLY INTO
  • 00:48:40.210 --> 00:48:42.050
  • IT.
  • 00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:43.200
  • AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE GRACE
  • 00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:46.200
  • MESSAGE HIT ME SO HARD BUT IT
  • 00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:48.070
  • WAS LIKE A TON OF BRICKS.
  • 00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:49.100
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I WAS
  • 00:48:49.100 --> 00:48:50.200
  • SCARED.
  • 00:48:50.200 --> 00:48:52.180
  • I NEVER FELT THAT BEFORE IN MY
  • 00:48:52.180 --> 00:48:55.080
  • LIFE.
  • 00:48:55.080 --> 00:48:55.250
  • I THOUGHT, HERE'S THE THOUGHT
  • 00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:57.190
  • THAT HIT ME HEAD.
  • 00:48:57.190 --> 00:48:58.270
  • HAVE I BEEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE
  • 00:48:58.270 --> 00:49:00.100
  • LORD TO PROTECT ME WHILE I'M IN
  • 00:49:00.100 --> 00:49:02.260
  • AN ACTIVE WAR ZONE?
  • 00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:05.220
  • I HAVE BEEN IN MANY WAR ZONES
  • 00:49:05.220 --> 00:49:07.060
  • OVER MY LIFE.
  • 00:49:07.060 --> 00:49:08.030
  • HAVE I BEEN GOOD ENOUGH?
  • 00:49:08.030 --> 00:49:09.220
  • I DON'T KNOW WHY I TURNED INTO
  • 00:49:09.220 --> 00:49:11.080
  • THAT KIND OF THEOLOGY RIGHT THEN
  • 00:49:13.120 --> 00:49:16.120
  • AND THERE, BUT I GOT SCARED.
  • 00:49:16.120 --> 00:49:18.080
  • AND THEN I THOUGHT, OH, MY GOD,
  • 00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:20.240
  • I CAN'T LEAVE A YOUNG WIFE WITH
  • 00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:23.140
  • TWO YOUNG BOYS, THIS IS STUPID.
  • 00:49:23.140 --> 00:49:25.130
  • I DIDN'T EVEN PRAY ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:27.130
  • THIS IS STUPID, WHAT AM I DOING
  • 00:49:27.170 --> 00:49:30.170
  • OUT HERE?
  • 00:49:30.170 --> 00:49:32.140
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:49:32.140 --> 00:49:33.050
  • AND ALL OF THAT HIT ME WITH A
  • 00:49:33.050 --> 00:49:33.260
  • TON OF BRICKS.
  • 00:49:33.260 --> 00:49:34.120
  • AND WHEN I JUST SAID, GOD, HELP.
  • 00:49:34.120 --> 00:49:36.020
  • JESUS, HELP ME.
  • 00:49:36.020 --> 00:49:38.280
  • HE SAID, SO CLEARLY TO ME, IT
  • 00:49:39.180 --> 00:49:42.180
  • WILL NEVER BE WHAT YOU HAVE OR
  • 00:49:42.180 --> 00:49:43.190
  • HAVE NOT DONE.
  • 00:49:43.190 --> 00:49:45.190
  • IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE WHAT I
  • 00:49:45.190 --> 00:49:47.050
  • DID.
  • 00:49:47.050 --> 00:49:48.130
  • AND THE FEAR LEFT.
  • 00:49:48.130 --> 00:49:51.080
  • I ENJOYED MY TRIP.
  • 00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:55.170
  • IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST VIVID
  • 00:49:55.170 --> 00:49:56.230
  • MEMORIES.
  • 00:49:56.230 --> 00:49:57.170
  • IT WAS 2004.
  • 00:49:57.170 --> 00:49:58.170
  • IT WAS ACTIVE.
  • 00:49:58.170 --> 00:50:00.240
  • I SAW TANKS AND THIS AND THAT
  • 00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:01.260
  • AND HEARD EXPLOSIONS.
  • 00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:03.050
  • LOVED EVERY BIT OF THE TRIP.
  • 00:50:03.050 --> 00:50:05.040
  • AND IT WAS AN EFFECTIVE
  • 00:50:05.040 --> 00:50:08.040
  • IMPORTANT TRIP FOR US.
  • 00:50:08.040 --> 00:50:10.050
  • WE BROUGHT SATELLITE DISHES SO
  • 00:50:10.050 --> 00:50:11.040
  • PEOPLE CAN GET CHRISTIAN TV.
  • 00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:12.260
  • A LOT OF STUFF.
  • 00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:14.030
  • BUT FEAR LEFT ME WHEN I REALIZED
  • 00:50:16.110 --> 00:50:19.110
  • IT WILL NEVER BE ABOUT
  • 00:50:19.110 --> 00:50:21.170
  • MY PERFORMANCE.
  • 00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:22.100
  • IT'S ABOUT JESUS' PERFORMANCE
  • 00:50:22.100 --> 00:50:23.250
  • ON THE CROSS AND FEAR
  • 00:50:23.250 --> 00:50:25.010
  • LEFT ME.
  • 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.000
  • LET'S MINISTER TO THE FOLKS NOW,
  • 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:31.220
  • PASTOR, JUST TAKE THE LAST
  • 00:50:31.220 --> 00:50:32.290
  • SEVERAL MINUTES HERE AND DO
  • 00:50:32.290 --> 00:50:34.040
  • WHATEVER YOU THINK GETS PEOPLE
  • 00:50:34.040 --> 00:50:35.050
  • ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO THIS
  • 00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:36.160
  • UNDERSTANDING SO THEY CAN SAY I
  • 00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:37.080
  • GOT IT, I GOT THIS.
  • 00:50:37.160 --> 00:50:40.160
  • - CREFLO: I THINK THAT WE'RE
  • 00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:47.150
  • GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO THE
  • 00:50:47.150 --> 00:50:49.150
  • PLACE OF REALIZING, THIS TRUTH
  • 00:50:49.150 --> 00:50:51.010
  • AND THAT IS, I'M NOT ENOUGH--
  • 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.280
  • I'M NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH,
  • 00:50:57.060 --> 00:51:00.080
  • BUT JESUS IS.
  • 00:51:06.090 --> 00:51:09.090
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:51:09.090 --> 00:51:10.070
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:12.020
  • - CREFLO: I THINK THE DAY THAT
  • 00:51:12.020 --> 00:51:13.170
  • WE RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE
  • 00:51:14.010 --> 00:51:17.010
  • NOT ENOUGH, THAT WE NEED A
  • 00:51:17.290 --> 00:51:20.290
  • SAVIOR, THAT WE NEED JESUS, AND
  • 00:51:21.010 --> 00:51:24.010
  • IT'S THROUGH HIM, IT'S THROUGH
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  • HIM.
  • 00:51:28.060 --> 00:51:31.060
  • HE IS OUR WISDOM.
  • 00:51:31.060 --> 00:51:33.140
  • HE IS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE IS
  • 00:51:33.140 --> 00:51:35.120
  • OUR HOLINESS AND OUR
  • 00:51:35.120 --> 00:51:37.050
  • SANCTIFICATION.
  • 00:51:37.050 --> 00:51:39.230
  • LET'S STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE GOD
  • 00:51:39.230 --> 00:51:42.190
  • WITHOUT HIM.
  • 00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:44.010
  • LET'S HUMBLY GO BEFORE GOD AND
  • 00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:47.230
  • ESTABLISH THIS TRUTH.
  • 00:51:47.230 --> 00:51:50.060
  • I NEED YOU.
  • 00:51:50.060 --> 00:51:52.150
  • I TRUST YOU.
  • 00:51:52.220 --> 00:51:55.220
  • I'M TIRED OF TRYING TO LIVE MY
  • 00:51:55.220 --> 00:51:57.050
  • LIFE BASED ON WHAT I KNOW AND
  • 00:51:57.050 --> 00:51:59.210
  • BASED ON MY EFFORTS.
  • 00:51:59.210 --> 00:52:01.290
  • I NOW WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE
  • 00:52:01.290 --> 00:52:04.030
  • THROUGH YOU.
  • 00:52:04.030 --> 00:52:05.170
  • AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING, JESUS
  • 00:52:05.170 --> 00:52:08.030
  • HAS SOMETHING THAT MOHAMMED
  • 00:52:08.030 --> 00:52:09.200
  • DOESN'T HAVE.
  • 00:52:09.200 --> 00:52:10.200
  • THAT BUDDHA DOESN'T HAVE.
  • 00:52:10.200 --> 00:52:12.120
  • THAT HARRY SELLING ROSES ON THE
  • 00:52:12.120 --> 00:52:14.160
  • EXITS DOESN'T HAVE.
  • 00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:16.240
  • JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR.
  • 00:52:16.240 --> 00:52:18.070
  • WHY?
  • 00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:19.200
  • BECAUSE HE STEPPED IN TO DO
  • 00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:21.260
  • EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD NOT DO
  • 00:52:23.080 --> 00:52:26.080
  • AND KEPT ALL 613 OF THOSE
  • 00:52:26.080 --> 00:52:28.130
  • COMMANDMENTS AND HE SAID, YOU
  • 00:52:28.140 --> 00:52:31.140
  • COULDN'T DO IT, BUT I DID.
  • 00:52:31.140 --> 00:52:33.240
  • SO HERE I AM.
  • 00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:36.070
  • I NOW AM YOUR OFFERING.
  • 00:52:36.070 --> 00:52:39.000
  • TAKE ME.
  • 00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.040
  • TAKE MY YOKE UPON YOU.
  • 00:52:41.040 --> 00:52:43.220
  • LEARN TO REST.
  • 00:52:43.220 --> 00:52:46.120
  • TONIGHT, WE OFFER YOU JESUS.
  • 00:52:46.270 --> 00:52:49.270
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, LORD,.
  • 00:52:49.270 --> 00:52:52.230
  • - CREFLO: ACCEPT HIM.
  • 00:52:52.230 --> 00:52:53.250
  • ROLL YOUR WORRIES AWAY.
  • 00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:54.130
  • ROLL YOUR CARES AWAY.
  • 00:52:54.130 --> 00:52:56.100
  • AND ALLOW HIM TO FINALLY BE
  • 00:52:56.100 --> 00:52:57.190
  • ENOUGH.
  • 00:52:57.190 --> 00:53:00.160
  • NOT JESUS PLUS FIVE HOURS OF
  • 00:53:00.160 --> 00:53:03.110
  • PRAYER.
  • 00:53:03.110 --> 00:53:05.110
  • PRAYER IS GOOD.
  • 00:53:05.110 --> 00:53:06.210
  • NOT JESUS PLUS TEN DAYS OF
  • 00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:07.290
  • FASTING.
  • 00:53:07.290 --> 00:53:09.270
  • FASTING IS GOOD.
  • 00:53:09.270 --> 00:53:11.110
  • BUT JESUS BY HIMSELF, HE IS
  • 00:53:12.200 --> 00:53:15.200
  • ENOUGH.
  • 00:53:15.200 --> 00:53:17.210
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:17.210 --> 00:53:20.020
  • HE IS ENOUGH.
  • 00:53:20.020 --> 00:53:21.000
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:27.250
  • IF YOU'VE NEVER ACCEPTED HIM
  • 00:53:27.250 --> 00:53:29.030
  • INTO YOUR LIFE OR IF YOU'RE
  • 00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:31.110
  • STUCK INTO LEGALISM, IF YOU ARE
  • 00:53:32.050 --> 00:53:35.050
  • STUCK INTO PERFORMANCE BASED
  • 00:53:35.050 --> 00:53:37.100
  • CHRISTIANITY, IF YOU HAVEN'T
  • 00:53:37.100 --> 00:53:39.230
  • REALLY SEEN JESUS YET, AND
  • 00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:42.050
  • HOPEFULLY THROUGH THE PEELING
  • 00:53:43.020 --> 00:53:46.020
  • BACK OF SOME OF THE LAYERS WE
  • 00:53:46.020 --> 00:53:47.150
  • PEELED BACK TONIGHT, THAT YOU
  • 00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:48.240
  • CAN SAY, I NEED A SAVIOR.
  • 00:53:48.240 --> 00:53:51.010
  • TAKE HIM.
  • 00:53:51.100 --> 00:53:54.100
  • HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
  • 00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:56.030
  • AND HE'S READY TO SHOW YOU HIS
  • 00:53:56.030 --> 00:53:58.050
  • UNMERITED, UNDESERVED FAVOR THAT
  • 00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:04.070
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK FOR, BUT
  • 00:54:04.070 --> 00:54:06.030
  • TODAY YOU CAN STOP SWEATING.
  • 00:54:06.130 --> 00:54:09.130
  • YOU CAN NOW MOVE INTO SWEATLESS
  • 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:12.200
  • VICTORIES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:54:12.200 --> 00:54:14.050
  • SWEAT ANYMORE TO GET HEALED, TO
  • 00:54:14.050 --> 00:54:15.220
  • GET DELIVERED OR TO BE SET FREE.
  • 00:54:15.220 --> 00:54:17.240
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:54:19.240 --> 00:54:22.240
  • AND I JUST PRAY IN JESUS' NAME,
  • 00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:23.160
  • IT TAKES A REVELATION.
  • 00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:26.020
  • PAUL SAID HE GOT THIS
  • 00:54:26.020 --> 00:54:27.150
  • BY REVELATION, I PRAY YOU GET
  • 00:54:27.150 --> 00:54:29.190
  • A REVELATION OF JESUS.
  • 00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:32.000
  • AND WHEN YOU GET A REVELATION OF
  • 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.060
  • JESUS AND YOU SEE THAT HE IS
  • 00:54:34.160 --> 00:54:37.160
  • YOUR SUPPLY HOUSE, HE WILL
  • 00:54:37.160 --> 00:54:38.290
  • SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR NEEDS, NOT
  • 00:54:40.180 --> 00:54:43.180
  • JUST FINANCES, BUT ALL OF YOUR
  • 00:54:43.180 --> 00:54:45.260
  • NEEDS, INCLUDING FINANCES, YOUR
  • 00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:48.000
  • HEALING, YOUR DELIVERANCE, THE
  • 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.110
  • INTIMACY, THE INSTRUCTIONS YOU
  • 00:54:49.110 --> 00:54:51.140
  • NEED FOR A GREAT MARRIAGE, HE
  • 00:54:51.140 --> 00:54:53.150
  • WILL DELIVER YOU FROM THE
  • 00:54:53.150 --> 00:54:54.230
  • DOMINATION THAT CAME FROM THE
  • 00:54:54.230 --> 00:54:56.110
  • LAW AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO
  • 00:54:56.110 --> 00:54:57.210
  • DOMINATE ONE ANOTHER IN YOUR
  • 00:54:57.210 --> 00:54:58.230
  • MARRIAGES, BUT YOU CAN WALK IN
  • 00:54:58.230 --> 00:55:00.180
  • THE PEACE AND THE LOVE AND THE
  • 00:55:00.180 --> 00:55:02.280
  • JOY THAT COMES FROM A PERSONAL
  • 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:04.100
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.
  • 00:55:06.220 --> 00:55:09.220
  • AMEN.
  • 00:55:09.220 --> 00:55:11.270
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.280
  • [APPLAUSE]
  • 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.180
  • YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF THE
  • 00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:23.160
  • PERFECT PRAISE PROGRAM.
  • 00:55:23.160 --> 00:55:26.000
  • BECAUSE ALL WE HAVE DONE FROM
  • 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.000
  • COMING UP FROM BLACK TO GOING
  • 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.260
  • DOWN TO BLACK AT THE END OF THIS
  • 00:55:31.260 --> 00:55:33.110
  • THING AND WE HAVE BEEN SITTING
  • 00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:35.010
  • HERE THE WHOLE TIME, WE TALKED
  • 00:55:35.010 --> 00:55:36.160
  • ABOUT AND FOCUSED THE LIGHT ON
  • 00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:39.000
  • ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY,
  • 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.270
  • AND HIS NAME IS JESUS.
  • 00:55:40.270 --> 00:55:43.050
  • AND I THINK BACK SO MANY YEARS
  • 00:55:44.020 --> 00:55:47.020
  • AGO WHEN MY PARENTS FOUNDED TBN,
  • 00:55:47.020 --> 00:55:49.210
  • BACK IN THE DAYS, YOU REMEMBER
  • 00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:51.240
  • TYPEWRITERS AND PAPER AND
  • 00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:54.160
  • STATIONERY AND ALL THAT, SO IN
  • 00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:58.030
  • THE BOTTOM OF OUR STATIONERY
  • 00:55:58.030 --> 00:55:59.290
  • BACK IN THE DAY, WAS THE
  • 00:56:00.250 --> 00:56:03.250
  • SCRIPTURE THAT SAID AND IF I BE
  • 00:56:03.250 --> 00:56:06.210
  • LIFTED UP WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO
  • 00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:07.260
  • ME.
  • 00:56:07.260 --> 00:56:09.230
  • AND THAT HAS BEEN THE FOCUS OF
  • 00:56:09.230 --> 00:56:11.230
  • TBN FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
  • 00:56:11.230 --> 00:56:12.140
  • AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU
  • 00:56:12.140 --> 00:56:13.240
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:56:13.240 --> 00:56:14.110
  • I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR
  • 00:56:14.110 --> 00:56:15.240
  • THIS PIVOT TOWARDS JESUS.
  • 00:56:15.240 --> 00:56:18.000
  • BECAUSE YOU WERE AHEAD OF THE
  • 00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:21.260
  • GAME A LITTLE BIT.
  • 00:56:22.050 --> 00:56:25.050
  • YOU ARE SENIOR PASTORS IN AN
  • 00:56:25.050 --> 00:56:27.020
  • AMAZING CHURCH IN ATLANTA.
  • 00:56:27.020 --> 00:56:28.110
  • A LOT OF PEOPLE ALREADY
  • 00:56:28.110 --> 00:56:30.290
  • KNOW THAT.
  • 00:56:30.290 --> 00:56:31.170
  • BUT BASICALLY, WE KNEW SOMETHING
  • 00:56:31.170 --> 00:56:33.210
  • WAS WRONG.
  • 00:56:33.210 --> 00:56:35.280
  • WE COULDN'T PUT OUR FINGER ON IT
  • 00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.200
  • FOR YEARS.
  • 00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:39.090
  • AND THE GRACE MESSAGE THAT YOU
  • 00:56:39.170 --> 00:56:42.170
  • HAVE ADOPTED AND ARE TEACHING
  • 00:56:42.170 --> 00:56:44.150
  • DAILY HERE ON TBN AND WHENEVER
  • 00:56:44.150 --> 00:56:45.170
  • YOU TEACH, IS THE ANSWER TO WHAT
  • 00:56:46.140 --> 00:56:49.140
  • WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WAS
  • 00:56:49.140 --> 00:56:50.260
  • WRONG.
  • 00:56:50.260 --> 00:56:53.250
  • YOU'VE BEEN IMPORTANT TO LAURIE
  • 00:56:53.250 --> 00:56:54.190
  • AND ME AND I WANT TO THAT CAN
  • 00:56:54.190 --> 00:56:55.260
  • BOTH OF YOU, TO CREFLO AND
  • 00:56:55.260 --> 00:56:56.290
  • TAFFI.
  • 00:56:56.290 --> 00:56:59.010
  • I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
  • 00:56:59.010 --> 00:57:01.020
  • THIS AMAZING BROADCAST TONIGHT.
  • 00:57:01.150 --> 00:57:04.150
  • THANK YOU, CREFLO,
  • 00:57:04.150 --> 00:57:06.120
  • THANK YOU, TAFFI
  • 00:57:06.120 --> 00:57:07.070
  • FOR BEING HERE.
  • 00:57:07.070 --> 00:57:08.120
  • WHAT AN AMAZING TIME TO FOCUS
  • 00:57:08.120 --> 00:57:09.120
  • THE LIGHT ON JESUS.
  • 00:57:09.120 --> 00:57:11.080
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 00:57:11.080 --> 00:57:12.000