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Praise the Lord

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March 14, 2016
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host Leon Fontaine

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Praise the Lord

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: FROM COAST
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  • TO COAST AND AROUND THE WORLD,
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  • PRAISE THE LORD,
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  • LET EVERY NATION REJOICE
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • WITH ONE MIGHTY VOICE
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  • "PRAISE THE LORD" COVERS THE
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  • MAJOR CHRISTIAN EVENTS IN
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  • AMERICA AND ACROSS THE WORLD,
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  • ...TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH
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  • WELCOME TO THE NUMBER-ONE
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  • CHRISTIAN NETWORK IN ALL THE
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  • WORLD!
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  • JOINING US FROM SHILOH RANCH IN
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  • PASTOR OF SPRINGS CHURCH AND
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  • CEO OF THE MIRACLE CHANNEL,
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  • AND, READY TO TAKE YOUR CALLS,
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  • PRAYER PARTNERS FROM AROUND
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  • PRAISE THE LORD,
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • PRAISE THE LORD
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  • NOW, YOUR HOSTS: MATT AND
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  • - MATT CROUCH: THE "PRAISE THE
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  • LORD" PROGRAM COMES TO YOU FROM
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  • AND I THINK TODAY THIS
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  • "PRAISE THE LORD" PROGRAM
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  • IS THE CUP-OF-TEA "PRAISE THE
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  • LORD" PROGRAM.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: YES.
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  • - MATT: WE ALL HAVE FRESH TEA.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - MATT: WE'RE ALL SITTING IN A
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  • VERY COMFORTABLE LOCATION.
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  • LEON FONTAINE, OUR DEAR
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  • FRIEND...
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  • LEON, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW,
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  • PASTOR, YOU KNOW, SPRINGS
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  • CHURCH, WE'VE BEEN WITH YOU,
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  • WE'VE DONE A "PRAISE THE LORD"
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  • PROGRAM IN YOUR BEAUTIFUL
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  • CHURCH IN CALGARY.
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  • BUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
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  • WANT THE TBN PARTNERS TO KNOW
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  • IS THAT WHEN "PRAISE THE LORD"
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  • PROGRAM, WHEN INSIDE THE FAMILY
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  • OF NETWORKS, WHEN A LOT OF THE
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  • TBN CONTENT AIRS IN CANADA, IT
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  • AIRS BECAUSE OF THE MIRACLE
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  • CHANNEL.
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  • - LAURIE: YES.
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  • - MATT: NOW, 7 MILLION HOMES
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  • ARE RECEIVING THE MIRACLE
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  • CHANNEL, WHICH CARRIES A LOT OF
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  • TBN BROADCASTING, SO,
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  • TO THOSE WATCHING IN CANADA...
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  • - LAURIE: HELLO.
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  • - MATT: HELLO.
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  • - LAURIE: AHOY, MATE.
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  • - MATT: AND, UH...
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  • - LAURIE: NOPE.
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  • OOPS, THAT'S AUSTRALIAN.
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  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
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  • - MATT: AND WE'RE ON AND DOING
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  • WELL THERE.
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  • OKAY, LEON -- LAURIE AND I HAVE
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  • INTRODUCED A VISION VIDEO.
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  • LAURIE AND I DID A VIDEO AND
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  • IT'S AIRED, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL
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  • TIMES ON TBN WHERE WE TALK
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  • ABOUT HOPE.
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  • IF THERE IS FACE OF HOPE IN
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  • TELEVISION TODAY, THAT IS
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  • CERTAINLY OUR DEAR FRIEND JOEL
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  • OSTEEN.
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  • - LEON FONTAINE: YEAH...
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  • - MATT: IF THERE IS A FACE ON
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  • GRACE...
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  • - LAURIE: MMH...
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  • - MATT: ...YOU KNOW, ON TBN,
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  • CERTAINLY IT IS, YOU KNOW,
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  • JOSEPH PRINCE.
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  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
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  • - MATT: AND WE, THEN,
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  • TALK ABOUT A NEW SUBJECT,
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  • A BRAND-NEW SUBJECT, CALLED
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  • SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
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  • OKAY...YOU'RE KIND OF HELPING
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  • US UNDERSTAND.
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  • YOU, IN A SENSE, ARE THE FACE
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  • OF SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
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  • IF SOMEBODY IS HEARING THAT
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  • TERM FOR THE FIRST TIME, NOBODY
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  • KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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  • LET'S START AND-- AND START
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  • EXPLAINING WHAT YOUR MINISTRY,
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  • HOW YOUR MINISTRY HAD EFFECT ON
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  • MY FATHER, PAUL CROUCH, RIGHT
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  • HERE ON THESE GROUNDS, HERE IN
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  • TEXAS.
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  • WE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME.
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  • AND, REALLY, WE STARTED TO GET
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  • TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
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  • AND THERE IS A LIFE MESSAGE IN
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  • YOU AND IT IS CALLED SPIRIT
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  • CONTEMPORARY.
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  • - LEON: SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY IS
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  • WHO HOLY SPIRIT REALLY IS.
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  • IT'S WHAT HE IS.
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  • - MATT: OKAY.
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  • - LEON: HE IS THE MOST
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  • CONTEMPORARY FORCE ON THE
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  • PLANET.
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  • AND, NOBODY EVER THINKS THEY'RE
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  • RELIGIOUS.
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  • BUT EVEN AMONGST-- I WAS RAISED
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  • IN A PENTECOSTAL-TYPE OF
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  • CHURCH.
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  • GREAT PARENTS WHO WERE TAUGHT
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  • THE BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,
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  • AND THE NINE GIFTS OF THE
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  • SPIRIT, AND THE FIVEFOLD
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  • MINISTRY.
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  • AND WE HAD DOCTRINES FOR ALL OF
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  • THEM, WHICH WORKED WELL.
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  • AND THEY WERE JUST PRECIOUS
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  • BECAUSE I THINK GOD WITH AZUSA
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  • STREET WAS BRINGING SOMETHING
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  • BACK TO THE BODY OF CHRIST
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  • WHERE WE COULD EXPERIENCE AND
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  • BELIEVE IN THIS, RATHER THAN
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  • JUST BEING A RELIGION, WHICH IS
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  • WHAT THE CENTURIES HAD DONE TO
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  • CHRISTIANITY.
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  • SO, RAISED IN A CHURCH,
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  • PENTECOSTAL, I SAW GOD DO
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  • MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND WONDERS,
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  • IN A CHURCH WAY, AT THE FRONT
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  • OF A CHURCH.
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  • BUT THEN, IN ORDER TO-- WHEN MY
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  • DAD WENT TO START A CHURCH IN
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  • SELKIRK, I WANTED TO GO WITH
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  • HIM BUT HE COULDN'T AFFORD TO
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  • PUT ME ON AS A PASTOR.
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  • SO, I GOT A JOB AND THEN BECAME
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  • A PARAMEDIC.
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  • AND IT WAS THEN THAT SALLY AND
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  • I -- MY WIFE -- SHE REALLY
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  • HELPED ME WITH THIS.
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  • BECAUSE SHE WASN'T RAISED IN
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  • ANY WAY RELIGIOUSLY.
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  • A GREAT HOME.
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  • BUT I HAD READ SO MANY BOOKS
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  • AND BEEN TO SO MANY
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  • CONFERENCES.
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  • BUT, I COULDN'T SEEM TO GET ANY
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  • MIRACLES TO HAPPEN.
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  • I COULDN'T SEEM TO WIN ANYBODY
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  • TO JESUS.
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  • IT WAS JUST LIKE-- IT WAS LIKE
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  • I WAS THE TYPICAL PARAMEDIC IN
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  • A HOSPITAL WITH PEOPLE DYING
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  • ALL THE TIME.
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  • I MEAN, I'VE SEEN HUNDREDS OF
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  • PEOPLE DIE.
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  • AND I JUST CRIED OUT TO GOD AND
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  • SAID, "GOD!"
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  • LIKE, "WHAT ABOUT THE MIRACLES,
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  • AND RAISING THE DEAD, AND
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  • SIGNS AND WONDERS,
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  • AND WINNING PEOPLE TO CHRIST SO
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  • THAT DAILY THE CHURCH HAS BEEN
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  • ADDED TO?"
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  • IT JUST-- OUR CHURCH NEVER GOT
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  • PAST 200 PEOPLE IN MY DAD'S
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  • ENTIRE LIFETIME -- 2- TO 300
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  • PEOPLE.
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  • IT JUST...IT JUST BEHOOVED ME.
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  • AND THAT IS WHEN GOD BEGAN TO
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  • DEAL WITH ME ABOUT BEING
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  • SPIRITUALLY ALIVE, AMAZINGLY
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  • POTENT, WHERE I COULD SENSE HIM
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  • AND KNOW WHAT TO DO, WHERE HIS
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  • PRESENCE WOULD FLOW THROUGH ME
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  • TO TOUCH PEOPLE.
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  • BUT, IT WOULDN'T BE CRAZY, AND
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  • WEIRD, AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE
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  • FRUITS, NUTS, AND FLAKES --
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  • THEY CALL THAT GRANOLA.
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  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
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  • - LEON: BUT THAT I WOULD BE
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  • ABLE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND HOW
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  • TO RELATE TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE,
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  • LIKE THE APOSTLE PAUL IN
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  • 1 CORINTHIANS 9, WHERE HE TALKS
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  • ABOUT: TO THE JEW, I'M AS JEW;
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  • TO THE GREEK AS GREEK; TO THOSE
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  • WITHOUT THE LAW AS WITHOUT THE
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  • LAW; TO THOSE WITH THE LAW AS
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  • WITH THE LAW; I WILL BE ALL
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  • THINGS TO ALL MEN THAT I MIGHT
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  • WIN SOME FOR THE GOSPEL.
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  • WHAT I NOTICED IN THE
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  • CHURCHES, WE BECAME-- SORRY,
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  • BUT I'M GONNA BE REALLY BLUNT.
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  • WE ALMOST BECAME THIS ARROGANT
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  • FORCE THAT "WE HAVE THE MESSAGE
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  • OF JESUS CHRIST -- TURN OR
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  • BURN, BUDDY," AND THIS IS
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  • JESUS, AND WE'RE GONNA PREACH
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  • AT PEOPLE AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
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  • AND WE STOPPED LISTENING AND
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  • LOVING AND ACTING LIKE JESUS
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  • ACTED.
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  • AND SO, IN THE SEVEN YEARS I
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  • SPENT AS A PARAMEDIC, I BEGAN
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  • TO SEE MIRACLES -- GROWTHS
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  • DISAPPEARING, IN FRONT OF A
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  • SURGICAL TEAM; I BEGAN TO SEE
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  • DEAD BODIES START TO WORK,
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  • PEOPLE COME BACK TO LIFE --
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  • THINGS IN MODERN-DAY CANADA
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  • THAT YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT.
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  • I MEAN, WE READ ABOUT IT IN
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  • JOHN G. LAKE BOOKS, SMITH
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  • WIGGLESWORTH BOOKS, IN AFRICA,
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  • TODAY.
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  • BUT YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT
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  • MIRACLES IN THE FIRST WORLD.
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  • AND I BEGAN TO SEE THEM ON JUST
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  • A REGULAR BASIS, TILL TODAY.
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  • HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE TALKED.
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  • I'LL JUST START TO SHARE
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  • MIRACLE AFTER MIRACLE AFTER
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  • MIRACLE AFTER MIRACLE.
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  • AND I STARTED REALIZING THAT
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  • THAT'S-- I THOUGHT THAT WAS
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  • NORMAL FOR MANY OTHER
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  • MINISTRIES UNTIL I STARTED TO
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  • TRAVEL.
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  • AND THEN, PEOPLE WERE IN AWE
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  • THAT WHAT I WAS DOING WAS SO
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  • AMAZING.
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  • BUT THE WAY GOD HAD BEGUN TO
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  • DEAL WITH ME, I FELT LIKE THIS
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  • WAS FOR EVERYBODY.
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  • - MATT: WOW.
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  • - LEON: AND SO, THAT'S WHERE
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  • SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY MEANS
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  • BEING SPIRITUALLY ALIVE,
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  • SENSING HOLY SPIRIT, AND MOVING
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  • IN HIS POWER.
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  • BUT THEN, CONTEMPORARY...WHICH
  • 00:08:28.260 --> 00:08:29.270
  • IS RELEVANT, COOL, ABLE TO TALK
  • 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:32.280
  • TO A GUY ON THE STREETS, A
  • 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:34.210
  • BOARD MEMBER IN THAT BOARDROOM,
  • 00:08:34.210 --> 00:08:36.260
  • SOMEBODY HURTING, SOMEBODY
  • 00:08:36.260 --> 00:08:38.120
  • WHO'S IN HORRIBLE SIN AND THEIR
  • 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.070
  • LIVES ARE A MESS.
  • 00:08:41.070 --> 00:08:43.090
  • SO, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE
  • 00:08:43.090 --> 00:08:44.010
  • GO, WE CAN BE CONTEMPORARY AND
  • 00:08:44.010 --> 00:08:45.000
  • COOL, WHEREAS, PEOPLE TODAY,
  • 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.060
  • THEY JUST KINDA LOOK AT
  • 00:08:46.060 --> 00:08:48.050
  • CHRISTIANITY--
  • 00:08:48.050 --> 00:08:49.110
  • WE'VE LITERALLY LOST.
  • 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:50.010
  • WE'RE IN CRISES TODAY.
  • 00:08:50.010 --> 00:08:51.100
  • BECAUSE, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL
  • 00:08:51.100 --> 00:08:52.270
  • FROM SOME OF MY FRIENDS AROUND
  • 00:08:52.270 --> 00:08:54.020
  • THE WORLD, THE CHURCH IS
  • 00:08:54.020 --> 00:08:54.290
  • GROWING IN THIRD-WORLD
  • 00:08:54.290 --> 00:08:56.280
  • COUNTRIES BEAUTIFULLY.
  • 00:08:56.280 --> 00:08:58.000
  • WE'RE REACHING MUSLIMS AT AN
  • 00:08:58.000 --> 00:08:59.040
  • AMAZING RATE AROUND THE PLANET.
  • 00:08:59.040 --> 00:09:01.080
  • BUT IN AMERICA, CANADA, YOU
  • 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.190
  • KNOW, ENGLAND, ALL THIS FIRST
  • 00:09:03.190 --> 00:09:06.110
  • WORLD, OUR STATS ON CHURCHES
  • 00:09:06.110 --> 00:09:08.220
  • ARE THOUSANDS ARE CLOSING THEIR
  • 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:09.240
  • AND, THE STATS -- THEY'RE
  • 00:09:12.010 --> 00:09:12.200
  • TELLING US-- OR EVEN THOUGH
  • 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:13.180
  • WE'VE GOT MEGACHURCHES, THE
  • 00:09:13.180 --> 00:09:14.270
  • AMOUNT OF CHRISTIANS OVERALL
  • 00:09:14.270 --> 00:09:16.120
  • HASN'T CHANGED MUCH.
  • 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:17.240
  • THERE'S A BIT OF A SHUFFLE.
  • 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:19.150
  • AND I THINK GOOD THINGS ARE
  • 00:09:19.150 --> 00:09:20.050
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:09:20.050 --> 00:09:22.190
  • BUT FOR ME, A HUGE CRISIS
  • 00:09:23.290 --> 00:09:26.290
  • IS WE HAVE SET UP SO MANY
  • 00:09:26.290 --> 00:09:28.030
  • LITTLE POPES AND CARDINALS
  • 00:09:28.030 --> 00:09:29.030
  • IN THE PENTECOSTAL WORLD THAT
  • 00:09:29.030 --> 00:09:30.260
  • WE HAVEN'T TAUGHT AND EQUIPPED
  • 00:09:32.040 --> 00:09:35.040
  • THE SAINTS FOR THE ADVENTURE OF
  • 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:35.260
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:09:37.130 --> 00:09:40.050
  • - MATT: OKAY...WHEN YOU HIT
  • 00:09:40.050 --> 00:09:40.260
  • THE CRISIS PART, I THINK YOU
  • 00:09:40.260 --> 00:09:42.030
  • STARTED IDENTIFYING WITH ME.
  • 00:09:42.260 --> 00:09:45.260
  • I KNOW YOU, LEON, AND I KNOW
  • 00:09:45.260 --> 00:09:48.190
  • YOUR MESSAGE, AND I AM IN
  • 00:09:48.190 --> 00:09:50.070
  • SUPPORT OF YOUR MESSAGE.
  • 00:09:50.070 --> 00:09:52.120
  • BUT, RIGHT THERE, I THINK YOU
  • 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.050
  • JUST FLIPPED A SWITCH.
  • 00:09:54.050 --> 00:09:56.270
  • I THINK YOU JUST GOT PEOPLE'S
  • 00:09:56.270 --> 00:09:57.210
  • ATTENTION WHEN YOU SAID THE
  • 00:09:57.210 --> 00:09:58.110
  • CHURCH IS IN A CRISIS.
  • 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:01.000
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:01.160
  • - MATT: WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
  • 00:10:01.160 --> 00:10:02.070
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:05.000
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE NOT
  • 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:06.160
  • ATTENDING CHURCH.
  • 00:10:06.160 --> 00:10:07.110
  • YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR, NORMAL
  • 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:10.060
  • WHAT WE CALL MAINSTREAM
  • 00:10:10.060 --> 00:10:11.110
  • DENOMINATIONS ARE LOSING CHURCH
  • 00:10:11.110 --> 00:10:12.250
  • ATTENDANCE.
  • 00:10:12.250 --> 00:10:14.250
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:10:14.250 --> 00:10:15.200
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, STATISTICS
  • 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:16.110
  • ARE DISMAL OF CHURCH ATTENDANCE
  • 00:10:16.110 --> 00:10:17.030
  • IN ENGLAND AND SOME OF THE
  • 00:10:17.030 --> 00:10:17.280
  • FIRST-WORLD LOCATIONS.
  • 00:10:18.140 --> 00:10:21.140
  • SO, I THINK THE IDEA IS I
  • 00:10:21.140 --> 00:10:24.020
  • WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO WATCH
  • 00:10:24.020 --> 00:10:25.170
  • THIS DISCUSSION AND THIS
  • 00:10:25.170 --> 00:10:26.230
  • BROADCAST -- AND IF YOU JUST
  • 00:10:26.230 --> 00:10:27.200
  • TUNED IN, THIS THE "PRAISE THE
  • 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.090
  • LORD" PROGRAM AND OUR GUEST
  • 00:10:29.090 --> 00:10:31.100
  • LEON FONTAINE -- WITHOUT YOU
  • 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.240
  • MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT
  • 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:36.250
  • YOU KNOW THAT THE CHURCH IS IN
  • 00:10:36.250 --> 00:10:37.180
  • A CRISIS.
  • 00:10:37.180 --> 00:10:39.080
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:40.000
  • - MATT: AND I THINK, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:40.220
  • BEFORE THE BROADCAST, YOU
  • 00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:41.230
  • MENTIONED -- AND I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:10:41.230 --> 00:10:43.280
  • UNPACK THAT MOMENT FOR A MINUTE
  • 00:10:43.280 --> 00:10:46.030
  • HERE -- THAT, BASICALLY, AFTER
  • 00:10:46.030 --> 00:10:48.120
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS REVEALED IN
  • 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.010
  • MASSIVE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE
  • 00:10:51.150 --> 00:10:54.150
  • THE WELSH REVIVAL...
  • 00:10:55.280 --> 00:10:58.280
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:10:58.280 --> 00:10:59.220
  • - MATT: ...THAT KIND OF GAVE
  • 00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:00.200
  • BIRTH TO THE AZUSA STREET
  • 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.140
  • REVIVAL...
  • 00:11:01.140 --> 00:11:02.010
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:11:02.010 --> 00:11:04.170
  • - MATT: ...AND THERE WAS, YOU
  • 00:11:04.170 --> 00:11:05.150
  • KNOW, BASICALLY, THOSE, YOU
  • 00:11:05.150 --> 00:11:07.040
  • KNOW, GIANT MOVES OF THE HOLY
  • 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:08.170
  • SPIRIT...
  • 00:11:08.170 --> 00:11:09.030
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:11:09.030 --> 00:11:09.210
  • - MATT: ...WE BASICALLY
  • 00:11:09.210 --> 00:11:11.110
  • STARTED RELIGIOUS
  • 00:11:11.110 --> 00:11:14.040
  • "RELIGIOUSIZING," IF THAT'S A
  • 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:14.250
  • WORD...
  • 00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:15.210
  • - LEON: YES...YEAH, WE DID.
  • 00:11:15.210 --> 00:11:16.250
  • - MATT: ...THOSE TYPES OF
  • 00:11:16.250 --> 00:11:17.150
  • EVENTS AGAIN.
  • 00:11:17.290 --> 00:11:20.290
  • SO, NOW THAT WE'VE MAYBE
  • 00:11:20.290 --> 00:11:22.060
  • STOPPED THE PRESSES FOR A
  • 00:11:22.060 --> 00:11:23.130
  • SECOND AND SAID, "WAIT A
  • 00:11:23.130 --> 00:11:24.170
  • SECOND, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A
  • 00:11:24.170 --> 00:11:26.050
  • CRISIS, LEON UNDERSTANDS THE
  • 00:11:26.050 --> 00:11:27.140
  • CRISIS, WE JUST THINK WE HAVE
  • 00:11:27.140 --> 00:11:28.110
  • STARTED TO IDENTIFY THE FIX TO
  • 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:30.130
  • IT," HOW DID WE PUT POPES AND
  • 00:11:30.130 --> 00:11:33.070
  • CARDINALS IN PLACES WHERE WE
  • 00:11:33.290 --> 00:11:36.290
  • THOUGHT WE HAD GOTTEN AWAY FROM
  • 00:11:36.290 --> 00:11:39.070
  • THAT 500 YEARS AGO?
  • 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.240
  • - LEON: YEAH ...THERE'S SO
  • 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:46.140
  • MANY AREAS TO GO.
  • 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:47.110
  • BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
  • 00:11:47.110 --> 00:11:48.020
  • THINK IS CRUCIAL IS THAT WE HAD
  • 00:11:48.020 --> 00:11:48.240
  • A FRESH EXPERIENCE OF THE HOLY
  • 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:50.120
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.000
  • THEY WOULD CALL IT AN
  • 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:53.120
  • OUTPOURING.
  • 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:54.210
  • I'M KINDA CAUTIOUS WITH CALLING
  • 00:11:54.210 --> 00:11:55.130
  • IT AN OUTPOURING, AS THOUGH
  • 00:11:55.130 --> 00:11:56.170
  • THERE WAS A WITHHOLDING OF HOLY
  • 00:11:56.170 --> 00:11:57.190
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:12:01.180 --> 00:12:04.180
  • I DON'T THINK HOLY SPIRIT EVER
  • 00:12:04.180 --> 00:12:05.100
  • WITHHOLDS HIMSELF.
  • 00:12:07.020 --> 00:12:10.020
  • I DON'T THINK HE'S EVER
  • 00:12:10.020 --> 00:12:10.200
  • STANDING BACK AND GOING, "NO."
  • 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:11.110
  • I THINK HE'S LIKE THE TV AND
  • 00:12:11.110 --> 00:12:12.010
  • RADIO WAVES -- HE'S ALWAYS
  • 00:12:12.010 --> 00:12:12.210
  • PRESENT.
  • 00:12:12.210 --> 00:12:13.080
  • IT'S JUST THE DEVICE TO TAP IN.
  • 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:14.000
  • - MATT: GOOD.
  • 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:14.250
  • - LEON: SO, WE HAD THIS AZUSA
  • 00:12:14.250 --> 00:12:15.170
  • STREET AND THIS PHENOMENAL
  • 00:12:15.170 --> 00:12:16.090
  • EXPERIENCING OF HOLY SPIRIT AND
  • 00:12:16.090 --> 00:12:17.080
  • EXCITEMENT AT PREACHING AND
  • 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:18.130
  • TALKING AND MINISTERING.
  • 00:12:18.130 --> 00:12:19.280
  • WE HAD A RESURGENCE OF-- THE
  • 00:12:19.280 --> 00:12:21.010
  • PENTECOSTALS WOULD CALL IT THE
  • 00:12:21.010 --> 00:12:22.290
  • GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:12:22.290 --> 00:12:25.140
  • THEN, WE HAD A RESURGENCE OF
  • 00:12:25.140 --> 00:12:26.170
  • THE PLURALITY OF MINISTRY, THE
  • 00:12:26.170 --> 00:12:28.000
  • FIVEFOLD MINISTRY, WITH PASTORS
  • 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:29.080
  • AND APOSTLES, PROPHETS,
  • 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:30.280
  • EVANGELISTS, TEACHERS.
  • 00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:32.130
  • AND, THEY BEGAN TO RISE UP.
  • 00:12:32.170 --> 00:12:35.170
  • AND WE JUST HAD AN AMAZING
  • 00:12:35.170 --> 00:12:36.140
  • THING!
  • 00:12:36.140 --> 00:12:37.230
  • I MEAN, DENOMINATIONS WENT
  • 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:38.240
  • AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.100
  • THIS WAS BEAUTIFUL, PHENOMENAL,
  • 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:41.030
  • INCREDIBLE!
  • 00:12:41.030 --> 00:12:42.220
  • I JUST FEEL LIKE WHEN I LOOK
  • 00:12:42.220 --> 00:12:43.160
  • BACK AT IT THAT THE MANAGERS
  • 00:12:43.160 --> 00:12:44.200
  • AND THE ADMINISTRATORS OF
  • 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.080
  • DENOMINATIONS GOT IN AND BEGAN
  • 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:49.230
  • TO CROSS EVERY "T," DOT EVERY
  • 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:50.180
  • "I" AND MAKE IT RELIGIOUS...
  • 00:12:50.180 --> 00:12:52.030
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:12:52.030 --> 00:12:52.180
  • - LEON: ...SO THAT THAT WE
  • 00:12:52.180 --> 00:12:53.080
  • PULLED AWAY FROM PEOPLE,
  • 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:54.150
  • THE EXCITEMENT OF MINISTERING
  • 00:12:54.150 --> 00:12:57.070
  • WITH HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:12:57.070 --> 00:12:57.280
  • AND, INSTEAD, IN EPHESIANS
  • 00:12:57.280 --> 00:13:00.110
  • 4:11, IT SAYS THE FIVEFOLD
  • 00:13:00.110 --> 00:13:01.270
  • MINISTRY ARE TO EQUIP THE
  • 00:13:01.270 --> 00:13:03.170
  • SAINTS TO DO THE WORK OF THE
  • 00:13:03.170 --> 00:13:05.240
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:06.260
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:06.260 --> 00:13:07.260
  • - LEON: BUT INSTEAD, PASTORS
  • 00:13:07.260 --> 00:13:09.240
  • LOVE PRAYING FOR PEOPLE AND
  • 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:10.190
  • HAVING FRONTLOAD MINISTRY AT
  • 00:13:10.190 --> 00:13:12.040
  • THE FRONT; AND PROPHETS LOVE TO
  • 00:13:12.040 --> 00:13:13.060
  • PROPHESY PERSONAL WORDS TO
  • 00:13:13.060 --> 00:13:16.010
  • PEOPLE; AND, APOSTLES GET OUT
  • 00:13:16.010 --> 00:13:17.200
  • AND DO BRAND-NEW THINGS AND
  • 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.010
  • LIVE THIS ADVENTURE; AND
  • 00:13:19.010 --> 00:13:19.200
  • TEACHERS WERE EXCITED ABOUT
  • 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:20.200
  • TEACHING THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:21.240
  • BUT-- BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT
  • 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.040
  • WE'RE TO EQUIP THE SAINTS AND
  • 00:13:23.040 --> 00:13:25.220
  • THEN WE WERE TO DO THE WORK OF
  • 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:27.000
  • THE MINISTRY, WHICH GIVES US
  • 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:28.030
  • ALL THE FUN, ALL THE JOY,
  • 00:13:28.030 --> 00:13:29.230
  • SEEING THE MIRACLES, GETTING
  • 00:13:29.230 --> 00:13:30.190
  • THE WORDS...
  • 00:13:30.190 --> 00:13:31.220
  • WE ARE TO BE THE COACHES THAT
  • 00:13:31.220 --> 00:13:33.070
  • EQUIP THE SAINTS.
  • 00:13:35.220 --> 00:13:38.220
  • SO, IN A WAY, WE HAVE STOLEN
  • 00:13:38.220 --> 00:13:39.120
  • MINISTRY FROM THE BODY--
  • 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:40.010
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:13:40.010 --> 00:13:40.140
  • - LEON: --AND WE GET TO RISE
  • 00:13:40.140 --> 00:13:41.050
  • UP AND GO MINISTER.
  • 00:13:41.050 --> 00:13:41.230
  • AND IT'S EXCITING!
  • 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:42.090
  • I LOVE OPERATING IN THE GIFTS
  • 00:13:42.090 --> 00:13:44.000
  • AND SEEING GOD DO THINGS
  • 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:45.110
  • THROUGH ME!
  • 00:13:45.110 --> 00:13:46.160
  • BUT I BEGAN TO RECOGNIZE THAT
  • 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:47.180
  • I'VE GOTTA HAVE-- WHAT ABOUT MY
  • 00:13:47.180 --> 00:13:49.130
  • KIDS RISING UP?
  • 00:13:49.130 --> 00:13:50.110
  • WHAT ABOUT ALL THE YOUNG IN OUR
  • 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:51.210
  • CHURCH?
  • 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:55.240
  • AND SO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT,
  • 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.160
  • IN MANY CASES, WE BEGIN TO-- IF
  • 00:13:56.160 --> 00:13:57.080
  • YOU WANT HEALING, GO FIND A
  • 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:58.020
  • PERSON THAT WE THINK HAS A
  • 00:13:58.020 --> 00:14:00.030
  • "SPECIAL ANOINTING" WITH
  • 00:14:00.030 --> 00:14:00.250
  • HEALING.
  • 00:14:00.250 --> 00:14:02.140
  • WELL, THAT'S NEW TESTAMENT.
  • 00:14:02.140 --> 00:14:03.040
  • THAT'S OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:04.150
  • SO, WE'VE GOT BIG ARENAS WHERE
  • 00:14:04.150 --> 00:14:06.020
  • WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA
  • 00:14:06.020 --> 00:14:07.120
  • HAVE A SPECIAL HEALING MINISTRY
  • 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:08.200
  • AND WE'VE GOT 17.000 PEOPLE.
  • 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.130
  • HE MIGHT GET ON STAGE...I DON'T
  • 00:14:10.130 --> 00:14:12.080
  • KNOW...30, 40, 50, MAYBE EVEN A
  • 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:13.280
  • HUNDRED PEOPLE WHO GET A
  • 00:14:13.280 --> 00:14:14.290
  • MIRACLE.
  • 00:14:14.290 --> 00:14:15.250
  • WELL, MOST CHURCHES GET LESS
  • 00:14:15.250 --> 00:14:17.110
  • THAN ONE PER-- THAT'S LESS THAN
  • 00:14:17.110 --> 00:14:18.210
  • ONE PERCENT WILL GET THAT MANY
  • 00:14:18.210 --> 00:14:19.130
  • MIRACLES.
  • 00:14:19.130 --> 00:14:21.110
  • WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT,
  • 00:14:21.110 --> 00:14:23.100
  • WE BEGAN TO SPECIALIZE.
  • 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:23.280
  • IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT GOD'S
  • 00:14:23.280 --> 00:14:25.070
  • DOING IN YOUR LIFE, YOU NEED TO
  • 00:14:25.070 --> 00:14:26.070
  • HEAR FROM A PROPHET.
  • 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:26.240
  • THAT'S OLD TESTAMENT.
  • 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.230
  • NOWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT DO
  • 00:14:28.230 --> 00:14:29.240
  • WE GET DIRECTION FROM PROPHETS,
  • 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.130
  • EXCEPT FOR CONFIRMATION.
  • 00:14:31.130 --> 00:14:33.220
  • THEY'LL CONFIRM THINGS WITH
  • 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:34.150
  • YOU.
  • 00:14:34.150 --> 00:14:35.170
  • SO, WE LITERALLY BEGIN TO MIX
  • 00:14:35.170 --> 00:14:37.180
  • THESE TWO COVENANTS AND WE
  • 00:14:37.180 --> 00:14:38.290
  • BEGIN TO TAKE THE FIVEFOLD
  • 00:14:38.290 --> 00:14:40.030
  • MINISTRY AND MAKE THEM THE
  • 00:14:40.030 --> 00:14:41.170
  • KINGS, THE PRIESTS, AND THE
  • 00:14:41.170 --> 00:14:42.250
  • PROPHETS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT,
  • 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:43.270
  • WHICH STEALS MINISTRY FROM THE
  • 00:14:43.270 --> 00:14:46.000
  • BODY OF CHRIST!
  • 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:47.010
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:14:47.010 --> 00:14:48.060
  • - LEON: WHAT KID WANTS TO GO
  • 00:14:48.060 --> 00:14:49.080
  • TO CHURCH AND DO NOTHING?
  • 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.130
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:14:51.130 --> 00:14:52.080
  • - LEON: HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM
  • 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:52.290
  • GOD!
  • 00:14:52.290 --> 00:14:53.140
  • HE WANTS TO LAY HANDS ON THE
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:54.040
  • SICK.
  • 00:14:54.040 --> 00:14:54.150
  • HE WANTS TO WALK OVER TO A
  • 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:55.040
  • FRIEND AND SENSE THE PRESENCE
  • 00:14:55.040 --> 00:14:56.230
  • OF GOD AND SAY: "GOD WANTS YOU
  • 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:57.260
  • TO KNOW, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING
  • 00:14:57.260 --> 00:14:59.080
  • THROUGH RIGHT NOW, HE TOLD ME
  • 00:14:59.080 --> 00:14:59.290
  • TO TELL YOU IT'S GONNA END.
  • 00:14:59.290 --> 00:15:02.270
  • AND THE GUY JUST STARTS TO WEEP
  • 00:15:02.270 --> 00:15:03.190
  • AND CRY BECAUSE IT WAS BODY
  • 00:15:03.190 --> 00:15:04.090
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:15:05.010 --> 00:15:08.010
  • AND WE HEAR THAT TERM.
  • 00:15:08.010 --> 00:15:08.210
  • BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S
  • 00:15:08.210 --> 00:15:09.120
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.100
  • SO, WE'VE TAUGHT THE GIFTS OF
  • 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:11.180
  • THE SPIRIT--
  • 00:15:11.180 --> 00:15:12.070
  • THE PENTECOSTALS TEACH
  • 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:12.270
  • THE NINE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:15:12.270 --> 00:15:14.240
  • NOW, THE BAPTIST DON'T EXACTLY
  • 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:15.260
  • AGREE WITH THAT.
  • 00:15:15.260 --> 00:15:16.240
  • PENTECOSTALS SAID WE HAVE TO
  • 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.100
  • SPEAK IN TONGUES FIRST AND THE
  • 00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:19.110
  • BAPTIST HAVE THEIR OWN DOCTRINE
  • 00:15:19.110 --> 00:15:20.060
  • ON IT.
  • 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:24.120
  • BUT, I THINK THAT EVEN AS
  • 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:25.010
  • SPIRIT-FILLED -- IF WE CALL
  • 00:15:25.010 --> 00:15:25.280
  • OURSELVES THAT -- PENTECOSTALS,
  • 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:27.110
  • WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS
  • 00:15:27.110 --> 00:15:28.010
  • SYSTEMATIC RELIGIOUS THING THAT
  • 00:15:28.030 --> 00:15:31.030
  • IF YOU NEED A MIRACLE, GO FIND
  • 00:15:31.030 --> 00:15:32.080
  • A CONFERENCE WITH A HEALER.
  • 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.080
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:34.260
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:15:34.260 --> 00:15:35.290
  • - LEON: IF YOU NEED A WORD, GO
  • 00:15:35.290 --> 00:15:36.210
  • FIND A PROPHET, GET AROUND HIM.
  • 00:15:36.210 --> 00:15:37.150
  • AND, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS
  • 00:15:37.150 --> 00:15:38.210
  • THESE MEN WILL FUNCTION BECAUSE
  • 00:15:38.210 --> 00:15:40.200
  • HOLY SPIRIT IS IN ALL OF US.
  • 00:15:42.280 --> 00:15:45.280
  • AND WE CAN FUNCTION.
  • 00:15:45.280 --> 00:15:47.080
  • BUT, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GONNA
  • 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:47.290
  • KILL THEM.
  • 00:15:47.290 --> 00:15:48.170
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:49.020
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:49.150
  • - LEON: AND IF WE PUT THEM ON
  • 00:15:49.150 --> 00:15:50.060
  • A PEDESTAL WHEN THEY FALL -- OR
  • 00:15:50.060 --> 00:15:50.280
  • "MAKE A MISTAKE" IS A BETTER
  • 00:15:50.280 --> 00:15:51.230
  • TERM THAN FALL -- WHEN THEY
  • 00:15:51.230 --> 00:15:52.240
  • MAKE A MISTAKE, WE CRUCIFY THEM
  • 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:53.160
  • AND WE ALL BACKSLIDE BECAUSE,
  • 00:15:53.160 --> 00:15:55.170
  • "OH..."
  • 00:15:55.170 --> 00:15:56.190
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:15:56.190 --> 00:15:57.240
  • - MATT: OKAY, LET ME SEE...LET
  • 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.160
  • ME SEE...LET'S TAKE THIS A BITE
  • 00:15:58.160 --> 00:15:59.170
  • AT A TIME.
  • 00:15:59.170 --> 00:16:00.220
  • LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT
  • 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:01.140
  • YOU JUST SAID.
  • 00:16:01.140 --> 00:16:02.130
  • - LEON: OKAY.
  • 00:16:02.130 --> 00:16:03.090
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:05.170
  • SO, YOU JUST SAID THAT IN ONE
  • 00:16:05.170 --> 00:16:06.080
  • SENSE THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE
  • 00:16:06.180 --> 00:16:09.180
  • FIVEFOLD MINISTRY GIFTS AND
  • 00:16:09.180 --> 00:16:12.080
  • WE'VE KIND OF TREATED THEM LIKE
  • 00:16:12.190 --> 00:16:15.190
  • THE OLD TESTAMENT KING,
  • 00:16:15.190 --> 00:16:18.160
  • PROPHET, AND PRIEST...
  • 00:16:18.160 --> 00:16:19.290
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:16:19.290 --> 00:16:21.020
  • - MATT: AND WE'VE ELEVATED THE
  • 00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:21.240
  • FIVEFOLD MINISTRY GIFTS AND
  • 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:22.280
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:16:23.140 --> 00:16:26.140
  • THEY'VE BECOME PROFESSIONAL, OR
  • 00:16:26.140 --> 00:16:28.290
  • LET'S SAY CARDINALS OR POPES,
  • 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:29.270
  • IN THOSE ARENAS WHEN ALL THEY
  • 00:16:30.130 --> 00:16:33.130
  • ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IS
  • 00:16:33.130 --> 00:16:35.070
  • EQUIPPING THE AVERAGE PERSON TO
  • 00:16:35.070 --> 00:16:35.290
  • DO IT.
  • 00:16:35.290 --> 00:16:38.000
  • - LEON: RIGHT.
  • 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:38.140
  • - MATT: IS THAT KIND OF WHAT
  • 00:16:38.140 --> 00:16:39.050
  • YOU JUST SAID?
  • 00:16:39.050 --> 00:16:39.210
  • - LEON: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT
  • 00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:40.110
  • I'M SAYING.
  • 00:16:40.110 --> 00:16:41.040
  • - MATT: OKAY.
  • 00:16:41.040 --> 00:16:41.200
  • - LEON: AND THEN, WHEN OUR
  • 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.100
  • CHURCHES DRY UP, WE PUT THEM ON
  • 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:43.020
  • THE MISSION FIELD WITH YWAM AND
  • 00:16:43.020 --> 00:16:43.280
  • OTHER GROUPS TO GIVE THEM A
  • 00:16:43.280 --> 00:16:44.250
  • SENSE AND A TASTE OF MINISTRY,
  • 00:16:44.250 --> 00:16:45.260
  • WHICH THEY BEGIN TO WITNESS,
  • 00:16:45.260 --> 00:16:47.240
  • THEY BEGIN TO PRAY FOR IT, THEY
  • 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:48.270
  • BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT ALL THESE--
  • 00:16:48.270 --> 00:16:49.190
  • THEN THEY COME HOME AND IT
  • 00:16:49.190 --> 00:16:50.100
  • STOPS.
  • 00:16:50.100 --> 00:16:50.270
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:16:50.270 --> 00:16:51.210
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO, WHEN
  • 00:16:51.210 --> 00:16:52.230
  • DID...WHEN DID YOU SEE THAT
  • 00:16:52.230 --> 00:16:54.170
  • HAPPENING, AND SPIRIT
  • 00:16:56.170 --> 00:16:59.170
  • CONTEMPORARY IS, IN ESSENCE,
  • 00:16:59.170 --> 00:17:00.260
  • REVERSING THAT, IS THAT KIND OF
  • 00:17:00.260 --> 00:17:01.210
  • WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
  • 00:17:01.210 --> 00:17:03.200
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:04.070
  • - MATT: OR, AT LEAST ONE OF
  • 00:17:04.070 --> 00:17:04.290
  • THE PIECES OF IT.
  • 00:17:04.290 --> 00:17:07.210
  • - LEON: IT'S A STORY THAT I
  • 00:17:07.210 --> 00:17:08.200
  • TELL OFTEN BECAUSE IT REALLY
  • 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.110
  • HELPS ME.
  • 00:17:09.110 --> 00:17:10.110
  • IN MY DAD'S CHURCH, WE WOULD
  • 00:17:10.110 --> 00:17:11.020
  • PRAY FOR THE CHURCH AT THE END
  • 00:17:11.020 --> 00:17:12.050
  • OF THE SERVICE, BRING THEM DOWN
  • 00:17:12.050 --> 00:17:12.270
  • TO THE FRONT.
  • 00:17:12.270 --> 00:17:14.120
  • AND WE WOULD MINISTER TO THE
  • 00:17:14.120 --> 00:17:15.030
  • SICK CHRISTIANS,
  • 00:17:15.030 --> 00:17:16.080
  • DISENFRANCHISED CHRISTIANS,
  • 00:17:16.080 --> 00:17:18.170
  • MARRIAGES STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:19.270
  • MINDS STRESSED OUT, AND GOD
  • 00:17:19.270 --> 00:17:21.120
  • WOULD JUST MOVE IN A GREAT WAY.
  • 00:17:21.120 --> 00:17:24.060
  • 'CAUSE IF YOU'VE TAUGHT THE
  • 00:17:24.060 --> 00:17:26.220
  • WORD -- SIGNS FOLLOW THE
  • 00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:27.260
  • TEACHINGS OF GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:17:27.260 --> 00:17:29.020
  • WE'D ALWAYS GET MIRACLES!
  • 00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:30.010
  • IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:17:30.010 --> 00:17:30.230
  • I WAS RAISED LIKE THAT.
  • 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:32.130
  • BUT WHEN I BECAME A PARAMEDIC--
  • 00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:34.010
  • AND THEN, MY DAD AND MUM NEVER
  • 00:17:34.010 --> 00:17:36.020
  • WENT INTO THESE EXCESSES, BUT
  • 00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:37.060
  • WE WOULD BRING IN SPEAKERS.
  • 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:39.160
  • AND THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN
  • 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.110
  • SONGS.
  • 00:17:40.110 --> 00:17:42.190
  • "WHEN I GO TO MINISTER TO
  • 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:43.230
  • PEOPLE, PLEASE ONLY DO..." --
  • 00:17:43.230 --> 00:17:44.250
  • I'LL MAKE ONE UP -- "'HE
  • 00:17:44.250 --> 00:17:45.230
  • TOUCHED ME.'"
  • 00:17:45.230 --> 00:17:47.000
  • OR "SHACKLED BY A HEAVY
  • 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:47.270
  • BURDEN."
  • 00:17:47.270 --> 00:17:48.190
  • OR THAT WAS THE SONG THAT THE
  • 00:17:48.190 --> 00:17:50.070
  • ANOINTING WOULD FLOW WITH.
  • 00:17:50.070 --> 00:17:52.170
  • AND THEN, WE COULDN'T TALK TO
  • 00:17:52.170 --> 00:17:53.250
  • THEM BEFORE THE SERVICE BECAUSE
  • 00:17:53.250 --> 00:17:55.140
  • THEY WANTED TO BE IN A
  • 00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:56.010
  • GREENROOM, UNTOUCHED.
  • 00:17:56.010 --> 00:17:57.060
  • THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME OUT
  • 00:17:57.060 --> 00:17:58.020
  • DURING THE WORSHIP AND
  • 00:17:58.020 --> 00:17:58.240
  • PRAISE BECAUSE IT MIGHT JUST
  • 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.200
  • KIND OF CHANGE THE ANOINTING ON
  • 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:00.290
  • THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:18:00.290 --> 00:18:02.070
  • AND, THEY-- THEY JUST ALWAYS
  • 00:18:02.070 --> 00:18:03.090
  • TALKED ABOUT THIS ANOINTING,
  • 00:18:03.090 --> 00:18:04.160
  • THIS ELUSIVE ANOINTING THAT
  • 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:05.280
  • MIGHT COME AND MIGHT NOT COME,
  • 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:08.080
  • MIGHT HEAL AND MIGHT NOT HEAL,
  • 00:18:08.080 --> 00:18:09.120
  • MIGHT GIVE A WORD AND MIGHT NOT
  • 00:18:09.120 --> 00:18:10.060
  • GIVE A WORD.
  • 00:18:10.060 --> 00:18:11.200
  • SO-- BUT, WE KIND OF WORKED AS
  • 00:18:15.130 --> 00:18:18.130
  • BEST AS WE KNEW HOW AND I THINK
  • 00:18:18.130 --> 00:18:19.050
  • THE CHURCH -- AND I LOVE THE
  • 00:18:19.050 --> 00:18:19.260
  • CHURCH, I DON'T EVER WANNA BASH
  • 00:18:19.260 --> 00:18:20.200
  • THE CHURCH -- I THINK IT WAS A
  • 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:21.190
  • BEAUTIFUL RESTORATION AND WE
  • 00:18:21.190 --> 00:18:22.120
  • JUST NEED TO MOVE ON TO THAT
  • 00:18:22.120 --> 00:18:23.100
  • NEXT LEVEL.
  • 00:18:23.100 --> 00:18:24.230
  • SO, WHEN I BECAME A PARAMEDIC
  • 00:18:24.230 --> 00:18:26.280
  • -- I'LL NEVER FORGET -- ONE OF
  • 00:18:26.280 --> 00:18:27.290
  • MY EARLIER CALLS WAS GOING
  • 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:29.000
  • ABOUT 45 MINUTES OUT INTO THE
  • 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.100
  • BUSH, TOWARDS THE BEACHES,
  • 00:18:30.100 --> 00:18:31.250
  • OUTSIDE OF WINNIPEG.
  • 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:33.220
  • AND, THERE WAS A CAR UPSIDE
  • 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:34.250
  • DOWN IN THE DITCH.
  • 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:36.120
  • AND THERE WAS A MUM HANGING BY
  • 00:18:36.120 --> 00:18:37.060
  • A SEATBELT.
  • 00:18:37.060 --> 00:18:37.250
  • ONE BABY'S DEAD IN THE WATER;
  • 00:18:37.250 --> 00:18:39.050
  • THE OTHER ONE'S HANGING AND
  • 00:18:40.040 --> 00:18:43.040
  • DIED A LITTLE BIT LATER.
  • 00:18:43.040 --> 00:18:43.250
  • AND, IT WAS DARK OUT -- THREE
  • 00:18:43.250 --> 00:18:44.280
  • IN THE MORNING.
  • 00:18:44.280 --> 00:18:46.020
  • WE GOT THE SEARCH LIGHTS ON THE
  • 00:18:46.020 --> 00:18:47.020
  • CAR.
  • 00:18:47.020 --> 00:18:47.220
  • YOU COULD SEE THE RED AND BLUE
  • 00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:49.030
  • LIGHTS FLASHING IN THE TREES.
  • 00:18:49.030 --> 00:18:49.240
  • I'M BY MYSELF, EXCEPT FOR THE
  • 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:50.150
  • DRIVER.
  • 00:18:50.150 --> 00:18:51.060
  • AND AS I STEP OUT OF THE
  • 00:18:51.060 --> 00:18:51.260
  • AMBULANCE, ALL I CAN HEAR IS
  • 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:53.130
  • THE GROANS AND THE CRYING OF
  • 00:18:53.130 --> 00:18:54.210
  • THIS MUM; SHE COULDN'T GET HER
  • 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:56.050
  • SEATBELT OFF.
  • 00:18:56.050 --> 00:18:57.140
  • AND SO, SHE'S SITTING THERE AND
  • 00:18:57.140 --> 00:18:58.060
  • WATCHING ONE CHILD DIE IN THE
  • 00:18:58.060 --> 00:18:59.170
  • WATER AND THE OTHER ONE DIED A
  • 00:18:59.170 --> 00:19:01.120
  • LITTLE LATER FROM THE TRAUMA OF
  • 00:19:01.120 --> 00:19:02.040
  • THIS ROLLOVER.
  • 00:19:02.040 --> 00:19:03.030
  • AND AS I STEPPED OUT OF THE
  • 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:04.080
  • AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW HOW YOU
  • 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:05.210
  • CAN-- YOUR MIND CAN GO THROUGH
  • 00:19:05.210 --> 00:19:07.080
  • AN ENTIRE DAY IN A MILLISECOND?
  • 00:19:07.080 --> 00:19:08.270
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMMM.
  • 00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:10.110
  • - LEON: I STEPPED OUT AND I
  • 00:19:10.110 --> 00:19:12.150
  • COULD HEAR CRYING AND I KNEW
  • 00:19:12.150 --> 00:19:13.160
  • THAT BABY WAS GONE 'CAUSE IT
  • 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:14.280
  • WAS FACE DOWN IN THE WATER.
  • 00:19:14.280 --> 00:19:16.060
  • AND THEN, MY HEART JUST BROKE;
  • 00:19:16.060 --> 00:19:17.190
  • I WAS A NEW DAD.
  • 00:19:17.190 --> 00:19:18.270
  • AND, SOMETHING INSIDE OF ME --
  • 00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:21.090
  • IT'S LIKE HOLY SPIRITS BEGAN TO
  • 00:19:21.090 --> 00:19:22.010
  • SPEAK TO ME AND TRYING TO WALK
  • 00:19:22.010 --> 00:19:23.190
  • ME THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE, I
  • 00:19:23.190 --> 00:19:25.170
  • DIDN'T HAVE ANY WORSHIP AND
  • 00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:27.290
  • PRAISE MUSIC WITH ME.
  • 00:19:27.290 --> 00:19:28.280
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:31.130
  • - LEON: JUST THE
  • 00:19:31.130 --> 00:19:31.290
  • SOUNDS OF GROANING AND
  • 00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:32.230
  • THE AMBULANCES IN THE DISTANCE
  • 00:19:32.230 --> 00:19:33.140
  • OF MORE POLICE WERE COMING.
  • 00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:34.040
  • MORE AMBULANCES WERE COMING.
  • 00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:36.100
  • SO, THERE WAS NOTHING TO "SET
  • 00:19:36.100 --> 00:19:37.210
  • THE MOOD."
  • 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:39.080
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:19:39.080 --> 00:19:41.040
  • - LEON: THERE WAS NOTHING
  • 00:19:41.040 --> 00:19:42.110
  • THERE FOR PEOPLE TO USHER, WHO
  • 00:19:42.110 --> 00:19:43.150
  • COULD CONTROL THE SCENE AND
  • 00:19:43.150 --> 00:19:44.170
  • MAKE SURE NO ONE TOUCHED ME AND
  • 00:19:44.170 --> 00:19:45.230
  • THAT I HAD THIS PROTECTIVE
  • 00:19:45.230 --> 00:19:46.190
  • LITTLE ZONE TO LET THE
  • 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.100
  • ANOINTING FALL ON ME TO GO
  • 00:19:48.100 --> 00:19:49.100
  • MINISTER TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:19:49.100 --> 00:19:50.190
  • INSTEAD, I WALKED--
  • 00:19:50.190 --> 00:19:52.120
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:19:52.120 --> 00:19:52.290
  • - LEON: I REMEMBER STEPPING.
  • 00:19:52.290 --> 00:19:54.020
  • I HAD A BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BLACK
  • 00:19:54.020 --> 00:19:55.120
  • SHOES.
  • 00:19:55.120 --> 00:19:57.220
  • JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, LACE-
  • 00:19:57.220 --> 00:19:58.110
  • UP.
  • 00:19:58.110 --> 00:19:59.070
  • I REMEMBER STEPPING INTO THAT
  • 00:19:59.070 --> 00:20:00.000
  • COLD WATER; CAME UP TO MY
  • 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:00.220
  • ANKLES.
  • 00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:01.210
  • AND I CAN SEE THE BLOOD FROM
  • 00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:02.200
  • THE BRIGHT LIGHTS ALL THROUGH
  • 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:03.110
  • THE WATER AS I'M WALKING.
  • 00:20:03.110 --> 00:20:04.000
  • IT WAS MY JOB TO GO IN FIRST,
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.050
  • INTO THAT CAR.
  • 00:20:05.050 --> 00:20:07.100
  • AND I WOULD HAVE TO GET IN.
  • 00:20:07.100 --> 00:20:08.080
  • THEN I WOULD HAVE TO IMMOBILIZE
  • 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:09.270
  • NECKS, AIRWAYS AND THEN WE
  • 00:20:09.270 --> 00:20:11.150
  • WOULD EXTRICATE.
  • 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:12.000
  • AND AS I'M GOING THROUGH, MY
  • 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.170
  • BRAIN IS GOING: WHERE'S THE
  • 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:15.030
  • ANOINTING?
  • 00:20:15.030 --> 00:20:15.200
  • WHERE'S THE PRESENCE OF GOD?
  • 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.240
  • I DON'T HAVE CATCHERS.
  • 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.000
  • I DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TO STAND IN
  • 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.090
  • A BIG CIRCLE, LIKE THE
  • 00:20:19.090 --> 00:20:20.210
  • CONGREGATION, AND WORSHIP WITH
  • 00:20:20.210 --> 00:20:22.020
  • THEIR HANDS IN THE AIR AND SEE
  • 00:20:22.020 --> 00:20:22.240
  • GOD DO MIRACLES.
  • 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:23.220
  • NONE OF THAT WAS THERE!
  • 00:20:23.220 --> 00:20:25.180
  • AND I JUST REALIZED IN THIS
  • 00:20:25.180 --> 00:20:26.260
  • INSTANTANEOUS MASSIVE EPIPHANY:
  • 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:29.150
  • THIS DOESN'T WORK ON THE
  • 00:20:29.150 --> 00:20:30.160
  • STREETS!
  • 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:31.150
  • - MATT: WOW...WOW.
  • 00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:32.230
  • - LAURIE: MMM...
  • 00:20:32.230 --> 00:20:33.180
  • - LEON: IT ONLY WORKS IN
  • 00:20:33.180 --> 00:20:34.070
  • CHURCHES.
  • 00:20:34.070 --> 00:20:35.030
  • - MATT: IN CHURCH.
  • 00:20:35.030 --> 00:20:35.220
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:36.100
  • - LEON: WHICH IS FINE.
  • 00:20:36.100 --> 00:20:37.030
  • WE STILL DO THAT.
  • 00:20:37.030 --> 00:20:37.270
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:20:37.270 --> 00:20:38.210
  • - LEON: BUT WE TEACH IT FOR
  • 00:20:38.210 --> 00:20:39.120
  • THE STREETS.
  • 00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:40.020
  • THAT AND A NUMBER OF OTHER
  • 00:20:40.020 --> 00:20:42.120
  • HORRIBLE THINGS THAT TOOK
  • 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:44.110
  • PLACE, AS I BEGAN TO WALK
  • 00:20:44.110 --> 00:20:45.180
  • THROUGH THE PAIN AND THE
  • 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:47.020
  • HEARTACHE OF PEOPLE IN THIS
  • 00:20:47.020 --> 00:20:48.140
  • WORLD THAT WE'VE BEEN SENT
  • 00:20:48.140 --> 00:20:50.110
  • TO -- SALT AND LIGHT -- I
  • 00:20:50.110 --> 00:20:51.170
  • REALIZED I WASN'T TRAINING
  • 00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:52.190
  • NURSES, I WASN'T TRAINING
  • 00:20:52.190 --> 00:20:53.190
  • DOCTORS PROPERLY.
  • 00:20:53.190 --> 00:20:55.110
  • THAT MUM -- I WASN'T TRAINING
  • 00:20:55.110 --> 00:20:56.060
  • HER PROPERLY TO PRAYER WITH
  • 00:20:56.060 --> 00:20:58.290
  • THAT KID THEY SAID WAS GONNA
  • 00:20:58.290 --> 00:20:59.220
  • DIE.
  • 00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:00.240
  • I WASN'T PROPERLY TEACHING THEM
  • 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.160
  • HOW TO SENSE WHEN THEY KNEW
  • 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:02.110
  • WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THEIR
  • 00:21:02.110 --> 00:21:03.030
  • KIDS.
  • 00:21:03.030 --> 00:21:03.200
  • HOLY SPIRIT WILL GUIDE US, LEAD
  • 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.000
  • US, FLOW THROUGH US.
  • 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.170
  • BUT WE HAD-- WE HAD SIMPLY BEEN
  • 00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:08.100
  • SETTING IT UP.
  • 00:21:08.100 --> 00:21:09.250
  • AND IT'S ALL WE KNEW FOR THE
  • 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:11.170
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:21:11.170 --> 00:21:12.150
  • EVERYONE COMES TO CHURCH.
  • 00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:13.280
  • IT'S THE TEMPLE OF GOD, THE
  • 00:21:13.280 --> 00:21:14.230
  • HOUSE OF GOD, THE HOUSE OF
  • 00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:15.200
  • PRAYER.
  • 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.050
  • IT'S THE HOUSE OF HEALING, IT'S
  • 00:21:17.050 --> 00:21:18.030
  • THE HOUSE OF MINISTRY, IT'S THE
  • 00:21:18.030 --> 00:21:19.080
  • PLACE TO COME.
  • 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:20.210
  • AND IT STILL IS BECAUSE IT'S--
  • 00:21:20.210 --> 00:21:21.180
  • BUT, EVERYONE THAT WALKS OUT OF
  • 00:21:21.180 --> 00:21:24.040
  • OUR CHURCHES HAS GOT TO KNOW
  • 00:21:24.040 --> 00:21:25.030
  • HOW.
  • 00:21:25.030 --> 00:21:27.000
  • BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS: "AS
  • 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.050
  • MANY AS ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT
  • 00:21:28.050 --> 00:21:28.260
  • OF GOD, THESE ARE THE SONS OF
  • 00:21:28.260 --> 00:21:30.040
  • GOD."
  • 00:21:30.040 --> 00:21:30.190
  • AND FROM THAT POINT ON, I
  • 00:21:30.190 --> 00:21:33.040
  • LITERALLY TURNED MY BACK -- NOT
  • 00:21:33.040 --> 00:21:34.100
  • IN A BAD WAY -- ON EVERYTHING
  • 00:21:34.100 --> 00:21:35.010
  • THAT I HAD BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT
  • 00:21:38.020 --> 00:21:41.020
  • THE ANOINTING -- WHICH IS SO
  • 00:21:41.020 --> 00:21:41.220
  • OLD TESTAMENT -- BECAUSE, JESUS
  • 00:21:41.220 --> 00:21:42.150
  • IS THE ANOINTED ONE AND HE'S
  • 00:21:42.150 --> 00:21:43.100
  • INSIDE OF US.
  • 00:21:43.100 --> 00:21:45.250
  • AND I DON'T BELIEVE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:21:45.250 --> 00:21:46.170
  • EVER SAYS, "OHP! NO GIFTS
  • 00:21:46.170 --> 00:21:47.180
  • TODAY!"
  • 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:48.060
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:48.270
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:21:48.270 --> 00:21:49.170
  • - LEON: I DON'T BELIEVE HOLY
  • 00:21:49.170 --> 00:21:50.080
  • SPIRIT, EVER, IF YOU WERE
  • 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:52.270
  • MINISTERING TO ME AND I NEEDED
  • 00:21:52.270 --> 00:21:53.200
  • SO-- I DON'T THINK HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:54.120
  • "OH, NO -- YOU CAN'T GIVE LEON
  • 00:21:54.120 --> 00:21:55.130
  • ANY KIND OF A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE
  • 00:21:55.130 --> 00:21:56.180
  • OR KNOW ANYTHING TO HELP HIM
  • 00:21:56.180 --> 00:21:57.090
  • OUT."
  • 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:00.220
  • I DON'T THINK HE EVER DOES
  • 00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:01.130
  • THAT.
  • 00:22:01.130 --> 00:22:02.020
  • I THINK PEOPLE JUST GET GOOD AT
  • 00:22:02.020 --> 00:22:03.030
  • DEVELOPING THE SKILLS TO SENSE
  • 00:22:03.030 --> 00:22:04.000
  • HIM.
  • 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:04.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:06.210
  • - LEON: WE ALL HAVE THE HOLY
  • 00:22:06.210 --> 00:22:07.120
  • SPIRIT.
  • 00:22:07.120 --> 00:22:08.110
  • - MATT: I THINK, IF I'M
  • 00:22:08.110 --> 00:22:09.090
  • UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, THIS NEXT
  • 00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:12.030
  • PIECE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:22:12.030 --> 00:22:13.110
  • HERE IS THAT IN ONE SENSE, WE
  • 00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:20.150
  • HAVE PUT GIFTS INSIDE OF
  • 00:22:20.150 --> 00:22:22.190
  • CERTAIN PEOPLE ON A PEDESTAL SO
  • 00:22:22.190 --> 00:22:24.290
  • THAT A CONGREGATION MEMBER
  • 00:22:24.290 --> 00:22:26.080
  • SAYS: I DON'T HAVE ANY CHANCE
  • 00:22:27.010 --> 00:22:30.010
  • OF SEEING A MIRACLE AT MY
  • 00:22:30.010 --> 00:22:31.210
  • OFFICE PLACE.
  • 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:32.050
  • - LEON: RIGHT...EXACTLY.
  • 00:22:32.050 --> 00:22:34.000
  • - MATT: I DON'T HAVE ANY
  • 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:34.210
  • CHANCE OF SEEING A MIRACLE AT
  • 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:35.120
  • THE GROCERY STORE.
  • 00:22:35.120 --> 00:22:36.000
  • I DON'T HAVE ANY CHANCE OF THAT
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.230
  • HAPPENING.
  • 00:22:37.230 --> 00:22:38.150
  • BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A, YOU
  • 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:41.160
  • KNOW, 501(C)(3) CORPORATION.
  • 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.200
  • - LEON: RIGHT.
  • 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:45.050
  • - MATT: AND I DON'T HAVE ORGAN
  • 00:22:45.050 --> 00:22:45.270
  • MUSIC FOLLOWING ME AROUND.
  • 00:22:45.270 --> 00:22:47.250
  • - LEON: RIGHT.
  • 00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:48.290
  • - MATT: AND WE HAVE BASICALLY
  • 00:22:48.290 --> 00:22:50.100
  • LIMITED THE UNDERSTANDING OF
  • 00:22:50.100 --> 00:22:52.050
  • "EQUIPPING THE SAINTS" BY
  • 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.000
  • PUTTING CERTAIN GIFTS IN
  • 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.110
  • CERTAIN MINISTRIES UP ON
  • 00:22:58.110 --> 00:22:59.100
  • PEDESTALS...
  • 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:01.130
  • - LEON: YEP...YEP.
  • 00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:03.080
  • - MATT: ...AND GIVING THIS
  • 00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:05.010
  • DISTANCE BETWEEN THE LEADERS
  • 00:23:05.010 --> 00:23:05.220
  • AND THE FOLLOWERS AND THE SHEEP
  • 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:07.040
  • AND THE SHEPHERD.
  • 00:23:07.040 --> 00:23:09.250
  • AND THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR THE
  • 00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:10.290
  • REST OF US--
  • 00:23:10.290 --> 00:23:12.110
  • - LEON: NO.
  • 00:23:12.110 --> 00:23:13.220
  • - MATT: --TO SEE ANYTHING
  • 00:23:13.220 --> 00:23:14.190
  • HAPPEN OUTSIDE--
  • 00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:15.200
  • - LEON: NO.
  • 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:16.150
  • THAT'S BOREDOM!
  • 00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:16.290
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:23:16.290 --> 00:23:17.270
  • - MATT: --WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED
  • 00:23:17.270 --> 00:23:19.100
  • TO BE EQUIPPING THE SAINTS.
  • 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:23.160
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:23.290
  • - MATT: SO, WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:23:23.290 --> 00:23:24.190
  • ABOUT TAKING THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:23:24.250 --> 00:23:27.250
  • AND SEEING HIM ACTIVATED IN
  • 00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:30.060
  • EVERYONE'S LIFE.
  • 00:23:30.060 --> 00:23:30.290
  • I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT IT
  • 00:23:30.290 --> 00:23:31.260
  • FEELS LIKE, LEON,
  • 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:34.160
  • YOU'RE GIVING A CONTEMPORARY
  • 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.270
  • VERBIAGE TO WHAT
  • 00:23:38.010 --> 00:23:41.010
  • THE FULL GOSPEL BUSINESS
  • 00:23:41.010 --> 00:23:41.200
  • MEN'S FELLOWSHIP WAS SAYING
  • 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.280
  • AND BROTHER DEMOS SHAKARIAN WAS
  • 00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:44.000
  • SAYING TO LAYPEOPLE FOR YEARS.
  • 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.090
  • - DAVID: YES.
  • 00:23:45.090 --> 00:23:47.110
  • HE SAYS--
  • 00:23:47.110 --> 00:23:48.020
  • - MATT: IF YOU JUST TUNED IN,
  • 00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:49.080
  • WE'RE GETTING IN DEEP INTO A
  • 00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:50.210
  • SUBJECT CALLED SPIRIT
  • 00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:51.250
  • CONTEMPORARY.
  • 00:23:51.280 --> 00:23:54.280
  • WHAT IS IT?
  • 00:23:54.280 --> 00:23:56.290
  • WE'VE BEEN TALKIN' ABOUT A HALF
  • 00:23:56.290 --> 00:23:58.040
  • AN HOUR.
  • 00:23:58.040 --> 00:23:58.280
  • LEON FONTAINE IS OUR GUEST.
  • 00:23:58.280 --> 00:24:00.240
  • THE MIRACLE CHANNEL IS IN
  • 00:24:01.090 --> 00:24:04.090
  • CANADA.
  • 00:24:04.090 --> 00:24:05.050
  • LEON IS THE CEO OF MIRACLE
  • 00:24:05.050 --> 00:24:07.150
  • CHANNEL.
  • 00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:08.130
  • SEVEN MILLION HOMES ARE SEEING
  • 00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:10.170
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION IN CANADA
  • 00:24:10.230 --> 00:24:13.230
  • BECAUSE OF THE MIRACLE CHANNEL.
  • 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:14.150
  • A LOT OF THAT IS THE TBN
  • 00:24:14.150 --> 00:24:15.220
  • TBN AIRS LEON'S PROGRAM FRIDAYS
  • 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:19.230
  • AT 9:30 PACIFIC TIME ON TBN.
  • 00:24:20.030 --> 00:24:23.030
  • IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, TAKE A
  • 00:24:23.030 --> 00:24:24.160
  • PEEK AT THIS SHORT CLIP.
  • 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:26.200
  • WHEN WE GET BACK, WE'RE GETTING
  • 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.070
  • MORE INTO SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY
  • 00:24:28.070 --> 00:24:29.290
  • - LEON: APOSTLE PAUL SAID IT'S
  • 00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:34.240
  • A STUMBLING BLOCK.
  • 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:35.290
  • RELIGIOUS PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.
  • 00:24:35.290 --> 00:24:37.150
  • IF YOU THINK JESUS WAS A LITTLE
  • 00:24:37.150 --> 00:24:38.070
  • WIMP IN FLIP-FLOPS AND A DRESS
  • 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:41.080
  • WITH LONG HAIR, YOU'RE
  • 00:24:41.080 --> 00:24:42.070
  • MISTAKEN.
  • 00:24:42.070 --> 00:24:45.010
  • BECAUSE, HE SAYS IN JOHN,
  • 00:24:45.010 --> 00:24:45.200
  • CHAPTER 10: NOBODY TAKES MY
  • 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.090
  • LIFE...NOBODY.
  • 00:24:47.090 --> 00:24:49.110
  • I GIVE IT.
  • 00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:52.170
  • HE DIED SO THAT HE COULD DIE
  • 00:24:52.170 --> 00:24:54.280
  • FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND.
  • 00:24:54.280 --> 00:24:57.100
  • YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE FOR YOU,
  • 00:24:57.100 --> 00:24:58.050
  • INDIVIDUALLY, HE TOOK YOUR SIN,
  • 00:24:58.050 --> 00:25:00.290
  • HE TOOK THE CURSE THAT GOES
  • 00:25:00.290 --> 00:25:02.160
  • WITH IT SO THAT YOU COULD
  • 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.160
  • EXPERIENCE GOD FREELY WITHOUT
  • 00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:08.180
  • HAVING TO PERFORM AND CLEAN UP
  • 00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:10.120
  • YOUR OWN LIFE.
  • 00:25:10.120 --> 00:25:12.260
  • HIS POWER NOW RESIDES IN THE
  • 00:25:12.260 --> 00:25:15.180
  • HEARTS OF ANYONE WHO ASKS HIM
  • 00:25:15.180 --> 00:25:17.190
  • TO COME IN.
  • 00:25:17.190 --> 00:25:20.120
  • AND WHEN HE COMES INTO OUR
  • 00:25:20.120 --> 00:25:22.210
  • LIVES BECAUSE OF WHAT TOOK
  • 00:25:22.210 --> 00:25:23.250
  • PLACE ON THE CROSS, YOUR SINS
  • 00:25:23.250 --> 00:25:26.010
  • - MATT: LEON FONTAINE IS WITH
  • 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:30.090
  • US ON THE "PRAISE THE LORD"
  • 00:25:30.090 --> 00:25:32.000
  • PROGRAM, COMING TO YOU FROM
  • 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.030
  • THIS BEAUTIFUL LOCATION HERE IN
  • 00:25:34.030 --> 00:25:34.290
  • TEXAS.
  • 00:25:34.290 --> 00:25:37.280
  • LET'S CONTINUE WITH SPIRIT
  • 00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:38.170
  • YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:25:42.180 --> 00:25:43.100
  • COACHING.
  • 00:25:43.100 --> 00:25:44.140
  • CAN YOU IMAGINE GOING TO A
  • 00:25:44.140 --> 00:25:45.110
  • FOOTBALL GAME AND ALL THE
  • 00:25:45.110 --> 00:25:46.000
  • COACHES ARE ON THE FIELD AND
  • 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:46.210
  • ALL THE PLAYERS ARE IN UNIFORMS
  • 00:25:46.210 --> 00:25:48.040
  • SITTING THERE WATCHING THEM?
  • 00:25:48.050 --> 00:25:51.050
  • AND THAT POTBELLIED COACH
  • 00:25:51.050 --> 00:25:51.240
  • OVER THERE IS THROWING TO
  • 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.020
  • HIS DEFENSIVE COACH AND THE
  • 00:25:53.020 --> 00:25:53.290
  • AND THEY'RE PLAYING
  • 00:25:55.280 --> 00:25:56.140
  • THE OTHER TEAM.
  • 00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:56.280
  • AND THE TEAM NEVER GETS ON THE
  • 00:25:56.280 --> 00:25:58.120
  • FIELD.
  • 00:25:58.120 --> 00:25:58.290
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:25:58.290 --> 00:25:59.150
  • - LEON: THEY WON'T PLAY ON
  • 00:25:59.150 --> 00:26:00.070
  • THAT TEAM VERY LONG.
  • 00:26:00.070 --> 00:26:02.060
  • BUT THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT ALL
  • 00:26:02.060 --> 00:26:02.280
  • OF US PASTORS HAVE BEEN TRAINED
  • 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:03.200
  • WITH IS WE HAVE TO GO DO THE
  • 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.290
  • WORK OF THE MINISTRY.
  • 00:26:04.290 --> 00:26:05.280
  • - MATT: WOW...
  • 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:07.100
  • - LEON: AND THEN THE ONES WHO
  • 00:26:07.100 --> 00:26:08.110
  • KIND OF GET IT HALF RIGHT,
  • 00:26:08.110 --> 00:26:09.190
  • WHERE THEY WANNA BEGIN TO LOOK
  • 00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:10.260
  • AFTER THEIR TEAM, THEY'RE OUT
  • 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.050
  • WITH THE SICK AND THE INJURED
  • 00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:13.230
  • PLAYERS.
  • 00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:20.210
  • SO, THEY'RE LOOKING
  • 00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:21.070
  • AFTER-- WHICH THE CHURCH IS
  • 00:26:21.070 --> 00:26:22.120
  • SUPPOSED TO DO -- HURTING
  • 00:26:22.120 --> 00:26:23.080
  • PEOPLE, SICK PEOPLE, BROKEN
  • 00:26:23.080 --> 00:26:23.280
  • MARRIAGE -- ALL THE HURTING
  • 00:26:23.280 --> 00:26:24.180
  • CHRISTIANS.
  • 00:26:24.180 --> 00:26:25.070
  • WE GOT PASTORS WHO ARE--
  • 00:26:25.070 --> 00:26:26.060
  • BUT IF A COACH ONLY WENT AND
  • 00:26:26.060 --> 00:26:26.260
  • LOOKED AFTER THE HURTING
  • 00:26:26.260 --> 00:26:27.260
  • PLAYERS, IS THAT TEAM EVER
  • 00:26:27.260 --> 00:26:29.050
  • GONNA WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP?
  • 00:26:29.050 --> 00:26:30.010
  • NO.
  • 00:26:33.050 --> 00:26:36.050
  • SO, SOMEHOW, WHENEVER
  • 00:26:36.050 --> 00:26:38.270
  • I GET AROUND PASTORS, I DO
  • 00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:39.180
  • PASTORS' CONFERENCES, I'M
  • 00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:40.170
  • GIVING THE DETAILS OF "HOW CAN
  • 00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.210
  • WE BEGIN TO MAKE THIS
  • 00:26:41.210 --> 00:26:42.080
  • TRANSITION?"
  • 00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:42.270
  • WHERE YOU BEGIN TO COACH A
  • 00:26:42.270 --> 00:26:43.200
  • PHENOMENAL STAR TEAM THAT'S
  • 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:46.190
  • GOING TO DO INCREDIBLE THINGS.
  • 00:26:46.190 --> 00:26:47.100
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:47.270
  • - LEON: SO--
  • 00:26:47.270 --> 00:26:48.220
  • GO AHEAD.
  • 00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:49.080
  • - LAURIE: YEAH, YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:26:49.080 --> 00:26:49.280
  • JUST THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT
  • 00:26:49.280 --> 00:26:52.030
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF US
  • 00:26:52.030 --> 00:26:53.060
  • GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS AND
  • 00:26:53.060 --> 00:26:54.150
  • THEN, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE
  • 00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:57.060
  • WEEK, WE LIVE OUR LIFE AND THEN
  • 00:26:57.060 --> 00:26:57.290
  • WE COME BACK IN HERE.
  • 00:26:57.290 --> 00:27:00.130
  • BUT THERE'S NO POWER IN OUR
  • 00:27:00.130 --> 00:27:01.030
  • LIVES ON THAT DAY-TO-DAY THING.
  • 00:27:01.030 --> 00:27:02.060
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:06.140
  • SPEAKING OF -- WHERE THE HOLY
  • 00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:07.050
  • SPIRIT IS WITH US ALL THE TIME.
  • 00:27:07.050 --> 00:27:08.080
  • HE NEVER LEAVES US, HE NEVER
  • 00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:09.130
  • FORSAKES US, HE'S WITH US
  • 00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:13.180
  • WHEREVER WE GO -- FOR EVERY
  • 00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:14.140
  • SITUATION.
  • 00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:15.000
  • FOR THE SITUATION WHERE THE
  • 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.100
  • FRIEND CALLS AND HER AND HER
  • 00:27:16.100 --> 00:27:17.220
  • HUSBAND HAVE HAD A FIGHT.
  • 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:19.070
  • OR, "MY KID IS SICK," OR "MY"--
  • 00:27:19.070 --> 00:27:20.030
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:27:20.030 --> 00:27:21.280
  • AND JUST TO HAVE JUST THE
  • 00:27:21.280 --> 00:27:23.200
  • CLARITY OF MIND OR THE UNCTION
  • 00:27:25.050 --> 00:27:28.050
  • OF THAT STILL SMALL VOICE
  • 00:27:28.050 --> 00:27:29.150
  • INSIDE OF OUR HEARTS THAT SAYS:
  • 00:27:29.150 --> 00:27:31.110
  • JUST SAY THIS.
  • 00:27:31.110 --> 00:27:33.130
  • WELL, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW
  • 00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:35.220
  • POWERFUL THAT CAN BE IN
  • 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:36.260
  • SOMEBODY'S LIFE.
  • 00:27:36.260 --> 00:27:37.150
  • - MATT: SURE.
  • 00:27:37.150 --> 00:27:38.160
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.140
  • - LAURIE: THAT CAN CHANGE
  • 00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:40.040
  • THEIR WORLD, YOU KNOW, WITH
  • 00:27:40.040 --> 00:27:42.120
  • JUST STEPPING OUT AND SAYING
  • 00:27:42.120 --> 00:27:45.090
  • THOSE THINGS THAT COME INTO
  • 00:27:45.090 --> 00:27:45.290
  • YOUR HEART.
  • 00:27:45.290 --> 00:27:46.250
  • BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WITH
  • 00:27:46.250 --> 00:27:47.170
  • US.
  • 00:27:47.170 --> 00:27:48.000
  • AND, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.080
  • SPEAKING ABOUT--
  • 00:27:49.080 --> 00:27:49.230
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:50.210
  • - LAURIE: --THAT WE DON'T NEED
  • 00:27:50.210 --> 00:27:51.130
  • THE ORGAN AND THE CHOIR MUSIC
  • 00:27:51.130 --> 00:27:52.040
  • AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT
  • 00:27:52.040 --> 00:27:52.230
  • SPEAKER UP THERE.
  • 00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:53.270
  • IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOU, LEON.
  • 00:27:53.270 --> 00:27:55.020
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:27:55.020 --> 00:27:55.200
  • - LAURIE: IT'S NOT JUST FOR MY
  • 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.120
  • PASTOR.
  • 00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:56.230
  • IT'S NOT JUST FOR THESE BIG
  • 00:27:56.230 --> 00:27:57.130
  • MINISTRIES.
  • 00:27:57.130 --> 00:27:59.160
  • IT'S FOR US.
  • 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.060
  • WE HAVE JUST AS MUCH AS THEY
  • 00:28:00.060 --> 00:28:03.040
  • DO, IF WE'LL LEAN INTO IT AND
  • 00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:04.120
  • ACCEPT IT AND WALK IN IT.
  • 00:28:04.120 --> 00:28:07.080
  • IT'S A "FREELY YOU HAVE
  • 00:28:07.080 --> 00:28:08.270
  • RECEIVED AND FREELY GIVE."
  • 00:28:08.270 --> 00:28:10.050
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:28:10.050 --> 00:28:11.060
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S TO ALL OF US.
  • 00:28:11.060 --> 00:28:12.010
  • - LEON: YEAH, AND I THINK THE
  • 00:28:12.010 --> 00:28:13.000
  • OTHER THING THAT WE'VE MADE A
  • 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:14.030
  • MISTAKE IN DOING IS TO
  • 00:28:14.030 --> 00:28:14.250
  • EXAGGERATE THE THINGS THAT GOD
  • 00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:17.170
  • DOES THROUGH US TO INSPIRE THE
  • 00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:19.130
  • PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH.
  • 00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:20.130
  • - MATT: MMH.
  • 00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:21.220
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:22.290
  • - LEON: SO, IF I SAY:
  • 00:28:22.290 --> 00:28:24.170
  • SOMETHING AMAZING HAPPENED TO
  • 00:28:24.170 --> 00:28:25.080
  • ME ON MONDAY!
  • 00:28:25.080 --> 00:28:26.010
  • I WENT TO A STARBUCKS AND THERE
  • 00:28:26.010 --> 00:28:26.290
  • WAS A MAN SITTING ACROSS THE
  • 00:28:26.290 --> 00:28:27.230
  • WAY.
  • 00:28:27.230 --> 00:28:29.100
  • AND, THE LORD JUST SHOWED ME:
  • 00:28:29.100 --> 00:28:30.040
  • YOU GO TALK TO HIM.
  • 00:28:30.040 --> 00:28:31.130
  • HIS WIFE IS DYING.
  • 00:28:31.130 --> 00:28:32.120
  • YOU'RE GONNA PRAY FOR HIM.
  • 00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:33.090
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:28:33.090 --> 00:28:34.010
  • - LEON: AND SHE'S GONNA BE
  • 00:28:34.010 --> 00:28:34.210
  • HEALED.
  • 00:28:34.210 --> 00:28:35.110
  • AND, THEY'RE ALL GOING, "OH,
  • 00:28:35.110 --> 00:28:36.080
  • MY!"
  • 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:37.010
  • BUT, REALLY, THE TRUTH IS THAT
  • 00:28:37.010 --> 00:28:39.030
  • WHEN YOU WALKED IN THERE, YOU
  • 00:28:39.030 --> 00:28:39.240
  • SENSED HOLY SPIRIT PULL YOU TO
  • 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.100
  • THAT GUY.
  • 00:28:41.100 --> 00:28:42.010
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:42.240
  • - LEON: AND YOU SAT DOWN WITH
  • 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:43.150
  • HIM.
  • 00:28:43.150 --> 00:28:44.010
  • AND IT WASN'T AS EXCITING,
  • 00:28:44.010 --> 00:28:44.230
  • 'CAUSE AS YOU TALKED WITH HIM
  • 00:28:44.230 --> 00:28:45.190
  • YOU FOUND OUT THAT HIS WIFE WAS
  • 00:28:45.190 --> 00:28:47.020
  • DYING.
  • 00:28:47.020 --> 00:28:47.250
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:49.030
  • - LEON: AND, WE ADD SO MUCH
  • 00:28:49.030 --> 00:28:50.150
  • HOLLYWOOD TO WHAT--
  • 00:28:50.150 --> 00:28:51.280
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:28:51.280 --> 00:28:52.150
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:53.090
  • - LAURIE: AND GOOFY.
  • 00:28:53.090 --> 00:28:54.050
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:28:54.050 --> 00:28:54.250
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:55.100
  • - LEON: AND WHEN WE DO THAT,
  • 00:28:55.100 --> 00:28:56.010
  • WHAT WE DON'T REALIZE IS WE ARE
  • 00:28:56.010 --> 00:28:56.230
  • TELLING EVERYBODY IN THE
  • 00:28:56.230 --> 00:28:57.230
  • AUDITORIUM, "I COULD NEVER DO
  • 00:28:57.230 --> 00:28:58.140
  • THAT."
  • 00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:58.260
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:28:58.260 --> 00:28:59.110
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:28:59.110 --> 00:28:59.280
  • - LEON: WE'RE DISQUALIFYING
  • 00:28:59.280 --> 00:29:00.210
  • EVERYONE WHO IS AUTHENTIC AND
  • 00:29:00.210 --> 00:29:02.140
  • LISTENING, 'CAUSE YOU GO:
  • 00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:04.140
  • I DON'T THINK I COULD EVER HEAR
  • 00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:05.080
  • GOD TELL ME THAT MAN'S WIFE'S
  • 00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:06.090
  • DYING OF CANCER RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:29:06.090 --> 00:29:07.100
  • GOD'S GONNA HEAL HIM.
  • 00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:08.080
  • HOW DO YOU EVER DO THAT?!
  • 00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:08.270
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:29:08.270 --> 00:29:09.180
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:10.090
  • - LEON: BUT IN MOST CASES,
  • 00:29:10.090 --> 00:29:12.240
  • IT'S A SENSING.
  • 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:13.150
  • IF YOU COULD REALLY GET
  • 00:29:13.150 --> 00:29:14.210
  • LEADERS--
  • 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:15.160
  • I'VE SEEN GOD DO SO MANY
  • 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.020
  • PHENOMENAL MIRACLES.
  • 00:29:17.020 --> 00:29:18.030
  • AND, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A
  • 00:29:18.030 --> 00:29:18.280
  • SENSING.
  • 00:29:18.280 --> 00:29:20.050
  • I'VE NEVER HEARD THE VOICE OF
  • 00:29:20.050 --> 00:29:20.260
  • GOD.
  • 00:29:20.260 --> 00:29:23.130
  • I'VE NEVER SEEN A VISION.
  • 00:29:23.130 --> 00:29:24.170
  • I'VE NEVER HEARD AN AUDIBLE
  • 00:29:24.170 --> 00:29:25.070
  • VOICE.
  • 00:29:25.070 --> 00:29:25.240
  • BUT, AS I BEGIN TO DEVELOP
  • 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.220
  • THIS, I WOULD WALK INTO
  • 00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:28.050
  • SITUATIONS AND I WOULD HAVE
  • 00:29:28.050 --> 00:29:29.230
  • THIS KNOWING RISE UP FROM
  • 00:29:29.230 --> 00:29:31.270
  • WITHIN ME.
  • 00:29:31.270 --> 00:29:33.040
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:34.040
  • - LEON: BUT THE OTHER THING
  • 00:29:34.040 --> 00:29:35.070
  • THAT'S REALLY CRUCIAL WAS I HAD
  • 00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:38.070
  • CLEANED UP MY MISBELIEFS.
  • 00:29:38.270 --> 00:29:41.270
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:29:41.270 --> 00:29:43.030
  • - LEON: 'CAUSE IF I BELIEVE
  • 00:29:43.030 --> 00:29:43.230
  • HOLY SPIRIT MIGHT FLOW THROUGH
  • 00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:44.150
  • ME AND HE MIGHT NOT...
  • 00:29:44.150 --> 00:29:46.140
  • AND WE HAVE SOME DOCTRINES THAT
  • 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:47.230
  • WOULD GO, "IT'S AS THE SPIRIT
  • 00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:49.030
  • WILLS.
  • 00:29:49.030 --> 00:29:50.060
  • OKAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
  • 00:29:50.060 --> 00:29:51.190
  • SPIRIT IS A SPIRIT BEING
  • 00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.030
  • WILLING WITH, AS PENTECOSTALS
  • 00:29:53.030 --> 00:29:55.130
  • SAY, "THE NINE GIFTS OF THE
  • 00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:56.030
  • SPIRIT," HE'S NOT GOING YES OR
  • 00:29:56.030 --> 00:29:57.190
  • NO; HOLY SPIRIT'S GOING, "I
  • 00:29:57.190 --> 00:29:59.150
  • WANT TO LEAD YOU INTO WHICH
  • 00:29:59.150 --> 00:30:01.070
  • ONE."
  • 00:30:01.070 --> 00:30:02.210
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:02.210 --> 00:30:03.240
  • - LEON: I WOULD FIND THAT,
  • 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:04.140
  • EVEN AT THE FRONT OF THE
  • 00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:05.210
  • CHURCHES AS I WOULD PRAY WITH
  • 00:30:05.210 --> 00:30:06.260
  • PEOPLE WHO WERE HURTING, I
  • 00:30:06.260 --> 00:30:07.160
  • WOULD PRAY FOR ONE PERSON.
  • 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:08.060
  • I COULD JUST SENSE HEALING FLOW
  • 00:30:08.060 --> 00:30:09.060
  • INTO HER.
  • 00:30:09.060 --> 00:30:10.110
  • THEN I'D PRAY FOR ANOTHER
  • 00:30:10.110 --> 00:30:11.120
  • PERSON.
  • 00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:12.120
  • AND, INSTEAD, I WOULD SAY
  • 00:30:12.120 --> 00:30:13.260
  • SOMETHING TO THEM.
  • 00:30:13.260 --> 00:30:15.130
  • AND THAT WORD OF KNOWLEDGE --
  • 00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:17.210
  • IT MIGHT BE: GOD WANTS YOU TO
  • 00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:18.160
  • KNOW GET RID OF THE GUILT AND
  • 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.260
  • THE FEAR THAT HAS SHACKLED YOU
  • 00:30:19.260 --> 00:30:21.290
  • FROM THAT PAST INCIDENT.
  • 00:30:21.290 --> 00:30:24.040
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:30:24.040 --> 00:30:25.070
  • - LEON: AND -- BAM! -- THAT
  • 00:30:25.070 --> 00:30:26.070
  • GUY WOULD BE HEALED BY A WORD
  • 00:30:26.070 --> 00:30:26.280
  • OF KNOWLEDGE.
  • 00:30:26.280 --> 00:30:27.150
  • THEN I'D GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
  • 00:30:27.150 --> 00:30:28.230
  • AND I WOULD LITERALLY JUST
  • 00:30:28.230 --> 00:30:29.140
  • PROPHESY THAT THE FUTURE--
  • 00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:31.180
  • BECAUSE THEY WERE SO AFRAID.
  • 00:30:31.180 --> 00:30:33.090
  • THEY WERE-- GOD CAN HEAL
  • 00:30:33.090 --> 00:30:34.090
  • THROUGH ANYTHING HE WANTS TO.
  • 00:30:34.090 --> 00:30:35.130
  • SO, THAT'S WHERE WHEN IT SAYS
  • 00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:38.020
  • IT'S "AS THE SPIRIT WILLS" --
  • 00:30:38.020 --> 00:30:40.120
  • TO ME, THAT IS MORE HOW TO DO
  • 00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:42.180
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:43.060
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:30:43.060 --> 00:30:44.060
  • - LEON: HOLY SPIRIT IS NEVER
  • 00:30:44.060 --> 00:30:45.050
  • GOING: NO.
  • 00:30:45.050 --> 00:30:47.010
  • BECAUSE JESUS DIED FOR HEALING.
  • 00:30:47.010 --> 00:30:48.290
  • JESUS DIED AND TOOK THE ENTIRE
  • 00:30:48.290 --> 00:30:50.210
  • CURSE OF THE LAW!
  • 00:30:50.210 --> 00:30:52.030
  • GALATIANS 3:13.
  • 00:30:52.030 --> 00:30:53.160
  • SO, THAT MEANS ALL OF THE
  • 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:54.210
  • PROMISES ARE YES, AND, IN HIM,
  • 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:55.290
  • AMEN!
  • 00:30:55.290 --> 00:30:57.150
  • SO, IT'S NO LONGER YES OR NO;
  • 00:30:57.150 --> 00:30:58.060
  • IT'S JUST HOW.
  • 00:30:58.060 --> 00:31:00.290
  • AND I FOUND THAT AS I WOULD
  • 00:31:00.290 --> 00:31:02.220
  • STEP INTO SITUATIONS, JUST
  • 00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:04.000
  • CAUTIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT I
  • 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.130
  • BEGAN TO ADD SKILLS.
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:06.210
  • THERE'S SKILLS TO DEVELOP OF
  • 00:31:06.210 --> 00:31:09.070
  • JUST LISTENING, SENSING,
  • 00:31:09.070 --> 00:31:10.200
  • KNOWING.
  • 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.270
  • IN BUSINESS SITUATIONS, I WOULD
  • 00:31:11.270 --> 00:31:13.200
  • SIT DOWN WITH LAWYERS AND HAVE
  • 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.130
  • TO-- I WANTED HUNDREDS OF ACRES
  • 00:31:15.130 --> 00:31:16.070
  • FOR-- AND BUILDINGS AND THINGS.
  • 00:31:16.070 --> 00:31:18.030
  • AND AS I WOULD GO INTO THESE
  • 00:31:18.030 --> 00:31:19.110
  • NEGOTIATIONS, I FOUND THAT HE
  • 00:31:19.110 --> 00:31:21.180
  • WAS JUST AS GUIDING ME THERE AS
  • 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:23.130
  • HE WAS AT THE FRONT OF A
  • 00:31:23.130 --> 00:31:24.280
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:31:24.280 --> 00:31:26.110
  • IF I WAS SITTING DOWN WITH A
  • 00:31:26.110 --> 00:31:27.200
  • HELLS ANGEL, WHICH I'VE DONE,
  • 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.160
  • AND I JUST-- HE STARTS TALKIN'
  • 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.010
  • TO ME, I WOULD JUST LISTEN AND
  • 00:31:30.010 --> 00:31:31.130
  • I'D KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PICK
  • 00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:32.080
  • UP THE CONVERSATION.
  • 00:31:32.080 --> 00:31:35.020
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:31:35.020 --> 00:31:35.250
  • - LEON: BIG TEARS COMIN' DOWN.
  • 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:37.050
  • SO, EVERYBODY HAS A MUM.
  • 00:31:37.050 --> 00:31:38.070
  • YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT MY MUM,
  • 00:31:38.070 --> 00:31:39.270
  • HOW THAT WHEN WE WERE ALL
  • 00:31:39.270 --> 00:31:41.020
  • TEENAGERS.
  • 00:31:41.020 --> 00:31:42.190
  • ONE OF MY BROTHERS BROUGHT
  • 00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:44.070
  • DRUGS OR BAD MAGAZINES HOME,
  • 00:31:44.070 --> 00:31:45.140
  • SHE LITERALLY WOULD GO LIKE
  • 00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:46.040
  • THIS, AT THE SUPPER TABLE.
  • 00:31:46.040 --> 00:31:48.290
  • "OKAY...WHO BROUGHT SOMETHING
  • 00:31:48.290 --> 00:31:50.100
  • INTO MY HOUSE?"
  • 00:31:50.100 --> 00:31:51.150
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:31:51.150 --> 00:31:52.140
  • GET UP, WALK DOWN TO THE EXACT
  • 00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:53.060
  • TILE.
  • 00:31:53.060 --> 00:31:55.060
  • YOU KNOW THESE TILES THAT ARE
  • 00:31:55.060 --> 00:31:56.070
  • FLOATING IN THE BASEMENTS OF
  • 00:31:56.070 --> 00:31:56.280
  • HOMES WHERE YOU CAN LIFT 'EM
  • 00:31:56.280 --> 00:31:57.190
  • UP?
  • 00:31:57.190 --> 00:31:57.290
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:31:57.290 --> 00:31:58.250
  • AND, SHE WOULD-- WOULDN'T HUNT!
  • 00:31:58.250 --> 00:31:59.220
  • SHE'D WALK TO THE CHAIR, PUT IT
  • 00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:00.160
  • DOWN, STEP ON THE CHAIR, LIFT
  • 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.260
  • THE TILE UP, AND PUT HER HAND
  • 00:32:01.260 --> 00:32:03.050
  • RIGHT ON A BAG OF DOPE AND GO
  • 00:32:03.050 --> 00:32:04.160
  • FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET.
  • 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:05.210
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:06.090
  • - LEON: SEE, WHAT MUM DOESN'T
  • 00:32:06.090 --> 00:32:07.200
  • WANNA KNOW WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE
  • 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.210
  • DOING IF THE ENEMY'S TRYING TO
  • 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:10.100
  • STEAL THEM THROUGH DRUGS?
  • 00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:11.060
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:32:11.060 --> 00:32:12.040
  • - LEON: OR STEAL THEM THROUGH
  • 00:32:12.040 --> 00:32:12.250
  • WRONG RELATIONSHIPS.
  • 00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:13.250
  • SHE'D LOOK AT ME AND SAY,
  • 00:32:13.250 --> 00:32:14.140
  • "YOU'RE NOT HANGING OUT WITH
  • 00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:15.210
  • THAT BOY ANYMORE -- PERIOD."
  • 00:32:15.210 --> 00:32:17.160
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:18.060
  • - LEON: AND, SHE JUST KNEW.
  • 00:32:18.060 --> 00:32:19.080
  • AND SHE'D SENSE.
  • 00:32:19.080 --> 00:32:20.120
  • MY DAD WAS SO MUCH LIKE THAT
  • 00:32:20.120 --> 00:32:21.120
  • THAT HE'D DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD
  • 00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:22.180
  • AND HE'D JUST SENSE GOIN' TO
  • 00:32:22.180 --> 00:32:23.180
  • THAT HOUSE.
  • 00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:26.180
  • SO, YOU CAN-- YOU CAN DEVELOP
  • 00:32:26.180 --> 00:32:28.020
  • SKILLS AND WHERE YOU BEGIN TO
  • 00:32:28.020 --> 00:32:29.040
  • JUST KNOW.
  • 00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:30.090
  • IT'S KIND OF LIKE BUSINESS
  • 00:32:30.090 --> 00:32:31.140
  • GUYS.
  • 00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.020
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:32:32.020 --> 00:32:33.130
  • THROUGH A LOT OF SITUATIONS,
  • 00:32:33.130 --> 00:32:34.190
  • YOU'VE HIRED A LOT OF STAFF,
  • 00:32:34.190 --> 00:32:35.260
  • FIRED A LOT OF STAFF, BROUGHT--
  • 00:32:35.260 --> 00:32:36.180
  • AFTER DECADES OF THAT, YOU WALK
  • 00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:37.260
  • INTO A SITUATION AND YOU JUST
  • 00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:39.020
  • KNOW.
  • 00:32:39.020 --> 00:32:40.040
  • IT'S LIKE DÉJÀ VU.
  • 00:32:40.040 --> 00:32:42.000
  • "THE LAST TIME THAT HAPPENED TO
  • 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.020
  • ME..."
  • 00:32:43.020 --> 00:32:44.040
  • SO, YOU CAN DEVELOP THESE
  • 00:32:44.040 --> 00:32:44.230
  • SKILLS.
  • 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:46.200
  • SO, THIS SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY
  • 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:47.150
  • LIFE...
  • 00:32:47.150 --> 00:32:48.170
  • THIS SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY
  • 00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:50.120
  • LIFE -- LET'S GIVE IT BACK TO
  • 00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:51.060
  • OUR KIDS.
  • 00:32:51.060 --> 00:32:52.150
  • WE NEED SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY
  • 00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:53.250
  • FAMILIES WHERE PARENTS JUST
  • 00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:55.170
  • TEACH RIGHT TO THOSE KIDS:
  • 00:32:55.170 --> 00:32:57.060
  • EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THE PRESENCE
  • 00:32:57.060 --> 00:32:59.210
  • OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU.
  • 00:32:59.210 --> 00:33:00.290
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:33:00.290 --> 00:33:02.000
  • - LEON: AND JESUS IS WITHIN
  • 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:02.210
  • YOU.
  • 00:33:02.210 --> 00:33:03.180
  • LOSE THE WORD AND ALL THE
  • 00:33:03.180 --> 00:33:04.260
  • INTRICATE TEACHING OF THE
  • 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:06.060
  • ANOINTING THAT PUZZLES ALL OF
  • 00:33:06.060 --> 00:33:07.170
  • US AS TO WHEN IT DOES OR
  • 00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:08.160
  • DOESN'T FLOW.
  • 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:09.160
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:10.100
  • - LEON: AND JESUS, THE
  • 00:33:10.100 --> 00:33:11.150
  • ANOINTED ONE, IS IN US.
  • 00:33:11.150 --> 00:33:12.100
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:33:12.100 --> 00:33:13.010
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:33:13.010 --> 00:33:14.060
  • - LEON: AND HE ALWAYS DESIRES
  • 00:33:14.060 --> 00:33:15.230
  • TO FLOW THROUGH US.
  • 00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:17.000
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.160
  • MMH...THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:18.250
  • - MATT: OKAY, LET ME MAKE SURE
  • 00:33:18.250 --> 00:33:19.220
  • I GET IT.
  • 00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:20.200
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:21.050
  • I'VE BEEN DOING THIS THIS WHOLE
  • 00:33:21.050 --> 00:33:22.050
  • PROGRAM, AND, SO, LEON--
  • 00:33:22.050 --> 00:33:23.120
  • - LAURIE: I THINK YOU DO.
  • 00:33:23.170 --> 00:33:26.170
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:27.130
  • - MATT: --I JUST WANT YOU-- I
  • 00:33:27.130 --> 00:33:28.130
  • WANNA REHEARSE.
  • 00:33:28.130 --> 00:33:29.020
  • WHAT WE REALLY STARTED TALKING
  • 00:33:29.020 --> 00:33:29.230
  • EARLIER IN THIS BROADCAST ABOUT
  • 00:33:29.230 --> 00:33:30.150
  • WAS, BASICALLY, WE ALL KNOW
  • 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.240
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO
  • 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.200
  • THE WELSH REVIVAL, YOU GO
  • 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.220
  • INTO THE AZUSA STREET REVIVAL
  • 00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:41.140
  • AND MANY OTHER WORKS AND
  • 00:33:41.140 --> 00:33:44.090
  • MOVEMENTS AND THINGS THAT HAVE
  • 00:33:44.090 --> 00:33:45.080
  • HAPPENED -- THOSE ARE REAL.
  • 00:33:45.130 --> 00:33:48.130
  • THAT HAPPENED.
  • 00:33:48.130 --> 00:33:49.050
  • OKAY?
  • 00:33:49.050 --> 00:33:50.250
  • BUT THEN, WHAT WE REALLY START
  • 00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:52.170
  • DOING AND WHAT REALLY KIND OF
  • 00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:54.020
  • CAME OUT OF THAT IS WE MADE A
  • 00:33:54.020 --> 00:33:56.050
  • MISTAKE AND WE STARTED REALLY
  • 00:33:56.050 --> 00:33:58.170
  • IDENTIFYING THE FIVEFOLD
  • 00:33:58.170 --> 00:34:01.030
  • MINISTRY GIFTS, WHICH ARE TO
  • 00:34:01.030 --> 00:34:02.020
  • EQUIP THE SAINTS, AND WE
  • 00:34:02.020 --> 00:34:04.070
  • STARTED RAISING THOSE UP AND
  • 00:34:04.070 --> 00:34:05.270
  • TREATING THOSE ALMOST LIKE WE
  • 00:34:05.270 --> 00:34:07.160
  • DID IN THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE
  • 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.090
  • KING, THE PROPHET, OR THE
  • 00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:11.020
  • PRIEST.
  • 00:34:11.020 --> 00:34:12.030
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:34:12.030 --> 00:34:13.060
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:34:13.060 --> 00:34:14.140
  • - MATT: AND, REALISTICALLY,
  • 00:34:14.140 --> 00:34:16.000
  • PASTORS HAVE BEEN RAISED UP TO
  • 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.000
  • A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
  • 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.110
  • AND SO, WE HAVE BEEN BASICALLY
  • 00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:22.050
  • SEEKING OUT A PROPHET, OR
  • 00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:25.030
  • SEEKING OUT A PASTOR, OR,
  • 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:28.000
  • INSTEAD OF JUST KNOWING THAT
  • 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.050
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT IS INSIDE OF
  • 00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:31.050
  • US.
  • 00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.210
  • AND WHEN THE FRIEND CALLS WITH
  • 00:34:32.210 --> 00:34:33.230
  • BAD NEWS, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM
  • 00:34:33.290 --> 00:34:36.290
  • AS EFFECTIVELY AS IF, "WAIT A
  • 00:34:36.290 --> 00:34:38.160
  • SECOND, HOLD YOUR THOUGHT, I
  • 00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:40.020
  • KNOW YOU'RE GIVING ME BAD NEWS,
  • 00:34:40.020 --> 00:34:41.140
  • LET ME CALL MY PASTOR AND GET
  • 00:34:41.140 --> 00:34:42.050
  • HIM CONNECTED ONTO THIS PHONE
  • 00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:45.000
  • CALL," BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
  • 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.170
  • TAKE A PASTOR TO REALLY DEAL
  • 00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:48.180
  • WITH THIS SITUATION--
  • 00:34:48.180 --> 00:34:49.220
  • - LEON: RIGHT.
  • 00:34:49.220 --> 00:34:50.120
  • - MATT: --THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
  • 00:34:50.120 --> 00:34:52.160
  • BEEN TRAINED WELL ENOUGH IN
  • 00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:54.120
  • CHURCH TO DEAL WITH THE
  • 00:34:54.120 --> 00:34:56.290
  • WEEKDAYS AND THAT THE WEEKENDS
  • 00:34:56.290 --> 00:34:59.130
  • ARE GIVING US MORE EQUIPPING.
  • 00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:01.250
  • BUT WE HAVE SEEN A DISTANCING,
  • 00:35:01.250 --> 00:35:02.270
  • WHERE PASTORS HAVE BEEN
  • 00:35:02.270 --> 00:35:04.000
  • STANDING HIGHER AND HIGHER
  • 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.000
  • AND HIGHER AND HIGHER ON...
  • 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.090
  • ON PODIUMS.
  • 00:35:08.090 --> 00:35:10.160
  • AND THE CONGREGATION ARE GOING
  • 00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:11.210
  • LOWER AND LOWER AND LOWER.
  • 00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:12.120
  • THERE'S A BIGGER DIVIDE,
  • 00:35:12.120 --> 00:35:13.090
  • DIVIDE, DIVIDE.
  • 00:35:13.090 --> 00:35:14.050
  • - LEON: YEP.
  • 00:35:14.050 --> 00:35:15.170
  • - MATT: AND WE HAVE BASICALLY
  • 00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:17.100
  • PUT PRIEST, CARDINAL, AND POPE
  • 00:35:17.100 --> 00:35:19.110
  • HATS BACK ON TOP OF SOME OF OUR
  • 00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:21.110
  • MINISTRY GIFTS WHEN WE HAVE
  • 00:35:21.110 --> 00:35:23.050
  • MINISTRY GIFTS TO EQUIP SAINTS
  • 00:35:23.050 --> 00:35:25.290
  • TO DO THE WORK OF THE KINGDOM.
  • 00:35:25.290 --> 00:35:27.140
  • - LEON: RIGHT.
  • 00:35:27.140 --> 00:35:29.100
  • - MATT: SO, WE'VE-- WE'VE
  • 00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:31.070
  • REALLY GOT THIS KIND OF BASS
  • 00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:31.270
  • ACKWARDS, AS MY DAD WOULD HAVE
  • 00:35:31.270 --> 00:35:34.080
  • SAID WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP,
  • 00:35:34.080 --> 00:35:36.120
  • YOU KNOW, IN MISSOURI.
  • 00:35:36.120 --> 00:35:37.250
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:35:37.250 --> 00:35:38.120
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:40.080
  • - MATT: BUT...BUT WE HAVE
  • 00:35:40.080 --> 00:35:41.150
  • REALLY NOT DONE THIS RIGHT.
  • 00:35:41.150 --> 00:35:43.090
  • AND SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY IS
  • 00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:44.150
  • TRYING TO EXPLAIN--
  • 00:35:44.150 --> 00:35:45.100
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:35:45.100 --> 00:35:45.290
  • - MATT: --THAT YOU CAN BE
  • 00:35:45.290 --> 00:35:48.130
  • FULLY SPIRIT-LED AND FULLY
  • 00:35:48.130 --> 00:35:49.250
  • CONTEMPORARY ALL AT THE SAME
  • 00:35:49.250 --> 00:35:51.120
  • TIME, AND, AGGRESSIVELY, THAT
  • 00:35:51.120 --> 00:35:53.080
  • WE'RE NOT TALKIN' ABOUT SOME
  • 00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:53.290
  • KIND OF WEIRD, MIDDLE--
  • 00:35:53.290 --> 00:35:55.070
  • - LAURIE: WELL, THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:56.210
  • BE SPIRITUAL AND NOT A WEIRDO
  • 00:35:56.210 --> 00:35:57.120
  • ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
  • 00:35:57.120 --> 00:35:58.080
  • - LEON: YES!
  • 00:35:58.080 --> 00:35:58.230
  • - MATT: AND THAT YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:35:58.230 --> 00:35:59.140
  • GOING INTO THE MIDDLE, WHERE
  • 00:35:59.140 --> 00:36:01.080
  • YOU'RE BECOMING LUKEWARM AND
  • 00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:02.140
  • ARE GONNA GET SPEWED OUT OF,
  • 00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:03.120
  • YOU KNOW, GOD'S MOUTH.
  • 00:36:03.120 --> 00:36:04.180
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:36:04.180 --> 00:36:06.080
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:36:06.080 --> 00:36:07.190
  • - MATT: SO, WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:08.190
  • ABOUT BEING A HUNDRED PERCENT
  • 00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:10.190
  • SPIRIT-LED AND A HUNDRED
  • 00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:11.110
  • PERCENT CONTEMPORARY,
  • 00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:12.140
  • AGGRESSIVE, ALL AT THE SAME
  • 00:36:12.140 --> 00:36:13.080
  • TIME.
  • 00:36:13.080 --> 00:36:13.280
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.120
  • - MATT: AND THAT WE'RE TAKING
  • 00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:17.100
  • BACK THE FIVEFOLD MINISTRY
  • 00:36:17.100 --> 00:36:18.010
  • GIFTS TO EQUIP PEOPLE TO DO
  • 00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:20.000
  • EVERYTHING THEMSELVES.
  • 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.020
  • IS THAT KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT
  • 00:36:21.020 --> 00:36:21.230
  • SO FAR?
  • 00:36:21.230 --> 00:36:22.260
  • THAT'S EXACTLY GOOD.
  • 00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:24.250
  • - LEON: WE JUST CAN THE GOSPEL
  • 00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:05.260
  • AND ATTACK PEOPLE WITH A
  • 00:37:05.260 --> 00:37:06.140
  • TURN-OR-BURN, GOING-TO-HELL,
  • 00:37:06.140 --> 00:37:07.070
  • ETC., ETC. INSTEAD OF LEARNING
  • 00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:08.060
  • TO SPEAK WITH PEOPLE.
  • 00:37:08.060 --> 00:37:10.140
  • I WAS ON A FLIGHT -- LONG
  • 00:37:10.140 --> 00:37:11.280
  • FLIGHT -- ONE TIME AND I WAS
  • 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.290
  • SITTING BESIDE A MAN WHO TOLD
  • 00:37:12.290 --> 00:37:14.070
  • ME THAT HE WAS GAY.
  • 00:37:14.070 --> 00:37:15.200
  • FIRST WE STARTED TALKING
  • 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:18.000
  • ABOUT BUSINESS.
  • 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.280
  • AND, WE GOT ALONG FINE.
  • 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.250
  • THIS GUY WAS A BRILLIANT
  • 00:37:21.250 --> 00:37:22.140
  • BUSINESSMAN.
  • 00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:23.110
  • AND HE WENT THROUGH THE
  • 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.000
  • COMPANIES THAT HE OWNED AND I
  • 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:24.260
  • STARTED TALKING ABOUT I HAD
  • 00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:25.160
  • ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WAS
  • 00:37:25.160 --> 00:37:26.050
  • RUNNING.
  • 00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:27.090
  • WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY
  • 00:37:27.090 --> 00:37:28.000
  • WERE.
  • 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:28.140
  • WE JUST STARTED TALKING HIRING
  • 00:37:28.140 --> 00:37:29.080
  • AND STAFFING AND SENSING, AND,
  • 00:37:29.080 --> 00:37:30.160
  • YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF.
  • 00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:32.200
  • AND THEN HE WENT ON TALKING
  • 00:37:32.200 --> 00:37:34.180
  • ABOUT HOW THAT HE WAS A GAY
  • 00:37:34.180 --> 00:37:35.120
  • MAN.
  • 00:37:35.120 --> 00:37:36.020
  • HE WAS HOMOSEXUAL AND THAT--
  • 00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:36.230
  • AND THEN HE STARTED TALKING
  • 00:37:36.230 --> 00:37:38.010
  • ABOUT HOW HE HAD BEEN
  • 00:37:38.010 --> 00:37:38.230
  • MISTREATED IN BUSINESS.
  • 00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:40.080
  • AND IT WAS AWFUL AND I JUST
  • 00:37:41.290 --> 00:37:42.230
  • AGREED WITH HIM.
  • 00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:45.010
  • AND, THEN HE TALKED ABOUT HOW
  • 00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:46.130
  • THAT HIS FRIENDS WHO WERE
  • 00:37:46.130 --> 00:37:47.020
  • CHRISTIANS, HOW THEY HAD
  • 00:37:47.020 --> 00:37:47.200
  • TREATED HIM.
  • 00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:49.100
  • AND I WAS UPSET.
  • 00:37:49.100 --> 00:37:51.100
  • I SAID, "THAT IS SO WRONG!"
  • 00:37:51.100 --> 00:37:53.090
  • AND WE'RE TALKIN'-- I MEAN,
  • 00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:53.290
  • THERE'S HOURS OF CONVERSATION
  • 00:37:53.290 --> 00:37:54.290
  • GOIN' BY.
  • 00:37:54.290 --> 00:37:56.010
  • AND WE'RE-- WE HAVE BECOME
  • 00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:57.050
  • FINALLY, HE SAYS, "WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:37:59.140 --> 00:38:00.070
  • DO?"
  • 00:38:00.070 --> 00:38:01.250
  • I SAID, "I'M A PASTOR."
  • 00:38:01.250 --> 00:38:04.110
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE JUST
  • 00:38:04.110 --> 00:38:05.060
  • STOPPED.
  • 00:38:05.060 --> 00:38:06.000
  • "OH..."
  • 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:06.240
  • AND HE TURNED AND HE
  • 00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:08.050
  • JUST...TWISTED HIS BODY.
  • 00:38:08.050 --> 00:38:10.040
  • I SAID, "WHOA, WHOA, JUST A
  • 00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:11.000
  • MINUTE...JUST A MINUTE."
  • 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.100
  • I SAID, "MAN, LIKE, WE WERE
  • 00:38:12.100 --> 00:38:14.020
  • TALKIN' ABOUT WHERE YOU'VE BEEN
  • 00:38:14.020 --> 00:38:15.200
  • JUDGED AND WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:17.030
  • STRUGGLING WITH."
  • 00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:18.040
  • I SAID, "I GET JUDGED AS A
  • 00:38:18.040 --> 00:38:19.110
  • PASTOR ALL THE TIME THAT IF I'M
  • 00:38:19.110 --> 00:38:20.210
  • A PASTOR I'VE GOT TO BE
  • 00:38:20.210 --> 00:38:21.220
  • JUDGMENTAL AND"--
  • 00:38:21.220 --> 00:38:23.260
  • BUT, I SAID: "I'M NOT.
  • 00:38:23.260 --> 00:38:26.040
  • MAN, I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:38:26.040 --> 00:38:27.200
  • I HAVE ENJOYED THIS
  • 00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:28.270
  • CONVERSATION FOR THESE PAST
  • 00:38:28.270 --> 00:38:29.250
  • HOURS.
  • 00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:30.110
  • I'D LOVE TO STAY IN TOUCH."
  • 00:38:30.110 --> 00:38:31.210
  • AND HE TURNED AROUND AND YOU
  • 00:38:31.210 --> 00:38:33.060
  • COULD JUST SEE THE SHOCK ON HIS
  • 00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:33.280
  • FACE.
  • 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:34.170
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:38:34.170 --> 00:38:35.050
  • - LEON: AND THEN, WE JUST KEPT
  • 00:38:35.050 --> 00:38:36.170
  • TALKING AGAIN.
  • 00:38:36.170 --> 00:38:37.210
  • YOU SEE, THIS MAN DIDN'T NEED
  • 00:38:37.210 --> 00:38:39.020
  • TO-- "OH! DID YOU KNOW THAT IT
  • 00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:40.050
  • SAYS...
  • 00:38:40.050 --> 00:38:41.060
  • LET ME PULL THE VERSES OUT FOR
  • 00:38:41.060 --> 00:38:42.040
  • YOU, BUDDY."
  • 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:43.000
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:43.170
  • - LEON: HE DIDN'T NEED THAT.
  • 00:38:43.170 --> 00:38:44.140
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:38:44.140 --> 00:38:45.140
  • - LEON: HE JUST NEEDED ME TO
  • 00:38:45.140 --> 00:38:46.230
  • LOVE HIM, APPRECIATE HIM,
  • 00:38:46.230 --> 00:38:47.120
  • RESPECT HIM, AND HIS HEART JUST
  • 00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:49.040
  • SLAMMED OPEN, AS HE ASKED ME
  • 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:51.070
  • HOURS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
  • 00:38:51.070 --> 00:38:52.050
  • BIBLE.
  • 00:38:52.050 --> 00:38:54.100
  • - LAURIE: WOW...
  • 00:38:54.100 --> 00:38:55.010
  • - LEON: THAT'S SPIRIT
  • 00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:55.180
  • CONTEMPORARY!
  • 00:38:55.180 --> 00:38:56.180
  • HE SENSED THE SPIRIT OF GOD ON
  • 00:38:56.180 --> 00:38:57.100
  • ME!
  • 00:38:57.100 --> 00:38:58.240
  • BUT, HOW I RELATE TO HIM, IT
  • 00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:01.070
  • SAYS HERE IN COLOSSIANS 2:6 --
  • 00:39:01.070 --> 00:39:02.160
  • IT'S GOTTA BE TO HIM IN A WAY
  • 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:04.270
  • THAT TOUCHES AND REACHES HIM.
  • 00:39:04.270 --> 00:39:07.020
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:39:07.020 --> 00:39:08.020
  • - LEON: BUT CHRISTIANS JUST
  • 00:39:08.020 --> 00:39:09.220
  • FIND IT EASIER TO THROW THE
  • 00:39:09.220 --> 00:39:10.130
  • WORD AT PEOPLE AND TO CONFRONT
  • 00:39:10.130 --> 00:39:11.260
  • SIN AS IF EVERYWHERE WE GO WE
  • 00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:13.070
  • HAVE TO CONFRONT SIN.
  • 00:39:13.070 --> 00:39:13.280
  • WHERE DO YOU FIND JESUS
  • 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.110
  • CONFRONTING SIN WITH ZACCHAEUS,
  • 00:39:15.110 --> 00:39:17.080
  • THE ADULTEROUS WOMAN, WITH THE
  • 00:39:17.080 --> 00:39:18.030
  • DRUNKS?
  • 00:39:18.030 --> 00:39:18.240
  • THEY THOUGHT HE WAS A DRUNK AND
  • 00:39:18.240 --> 00:39:20.220
  • A WINEBIBBER 'CAUSE HE WAS
  • 00:39:20.220 --> 00:39:21.290
  • ALWAYS OUT THERE WITH THEM.
  • 00:39:21.290 --> 00:39:23.030
  • WE DON'T-- HE-- HE ACTUALLY
  • 00:39:23.030 --> 00:39:24.140
  • CONFRONTED RELIGIOUS,
  • 00:39:24.140 --> 00:39:26.070
  • JUDGMENTAL PEOPLE BEFORE HE'D
  • 00:39:26.070 --> 00:39:28.180
  • CONFRONT--
  • 00:39:28.180 --> 00:39:30.010
  • SO, I'M NOT SAYING SIN IS OKAY.
  • 00:39:30.010 --> 00:39:31.000
  • I'M JUST SAYING THAT EVERYWHERE
  • 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:32.140
  • I GO, I'VE GOT THE SPIRIT OF
  • 00:39:32.140 --> 00:39:33.100
  • GOD WITHIN ME.
  • 00:39:33.100 --> 00:39:34.280
  • I KNOW WHAT HIS WORD SAYS.
  • 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.150
  • BUT NOW I'M GONNA BE
  • 00:39:36.150 --> 00:39:38.080
  • CONTEMPORARY FOR THE PERSON.
  • 00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:40.080
  • A GUY SAID TO ME ONE TIME --
  • 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:41.250
  • I WAS DOING A PASTORS'
  • 00:39:41.250 --> 00:39:42.250
  • CONFERENCE -- AND THIS GUY
  • 00:39:42.250 --> 00:39:44.060
  • STANDS UP IN Q&A AND HE SAYS,
  • 00:39:44.060 --> 00:39:45.250
  • "WELL, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
  • 00:39:45.250 --> 00:39:47.160
  • THAT I FEEL YOU'VE COMPROMISED
  • 00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:49.000
  • BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MEGACHURCH."
  • 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.230
  • AND, I SAID, "OH...EXPLAIN THAT
  • 00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:51.290
  • TO ME."
  • 00:39:51.290 --> 00:39:52.200
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:53.230
  • YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD LOTS OVER
  • 00:39:53.230 --> 00:39:54.210
  • THESE Q&AS.
  • 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:55.060
  • AND HE SAYS, "WELL, OUR CHURCH
  • 00:39:55.060 --> 00:39:56.100
  • IS VERY SMALL."
  • 00:39:56.100 --> 00:39:57.150
  • HE SAID: "WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO
  • 00:39:57.150 --> 00:39:59.000
  • OUR CHURCH, THE PRESENCE OF GOD
  • 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:00.120
  • IS THERE.
  • 00:40:00.120 --> 00:40:01.130
  • AND WHEN THE PRESENCE OF GOD IS
  • 00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:02.170
  • THERE, IT CONVICTS PEOPLE OF
  • 00:40:02.170 --> 00:40:04.140
  • THEIR SIN AND THEY CAN'T STAY
  • 00:40:04.140 --> 00:40:06.000
  • WITHOUT GETTING SAVED OR THEY
  • 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:06.230
  • HAVE TO LEAVE.
  • 00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:08.140
  • AND SO, PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA
  • 00:40:08.140 --> 00:40:09.060
  • GIVE THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST,
  • 00:40:09.060 --> 00:40:10.020
  • THEY DON'T MAKE IT IN OUR
  • 00:40:10.020 --> 00:40:10.260
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:40:10.260 --> 00:40:11.220
  • SO, IT'S PURE AND IT'S CLEAN.
  • 00:40:11.220 --> 00:40:13.270
  • AND OUR CHURCH IS SP--
  • 00:40:13.270 --> 00:40:16.000
  • YOUR CHURCH -- I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:16.200
  • GOT-- PFT!
  • 00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:17.090
  • I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A SUNDAY --
  • 00:40:17.090 --> 00:40:18.010
  • YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN HERE."
  • 00:40:18.010 --> 00:40:19.030
  • AND I WAS JUST KIND OF QUIET.
  • 00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:20.070
  • AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW, ISN'T IT
  • 00:40:20.070 --> 00:40:21.020
  • INTERESTING THAT YOU CREDIT THE
  • 00:40:21.020 --> 00:40:22.040
  • ANOINTING WITH KEEPING YOUR
  • 00:40:22.040 --> 00:40:23.270
  • CHURCH SMALL?"
  • 00:40:23.270 --> 00:40:25.050
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:40:25.050 --> 00:40:27.010
  • - LEON: I SAID: "WHAT ABOUT
  • 00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:28.120
  • JESUS, WHO HAD THE ANOINTING
  • 00:40:28.120 --> 00:40:29.260
  • WITHOUT MEASURE, AND EVERYWHERE
  • 00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:31.160
  • HE WENT, THEY CAME OUT IN THE
  • 00:40:31.160 --> 00:40:33.130
  • THOUSANDS?
  • 00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:35.040
  • AND WE KNOW THIEVES AND LIARS
  • 00:40:35.150 --> 00:40:38.150
  • AND OTHERS-- WERE ALL AMONG
  • 00:40:38.150 --> 00:40:39.070
  • THEM.
  • 00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:41.180
  • AND THEY WERE ATTRACTED TO
  • 00:40:41.180 --> 00:40:42.080
  • HIM."
  • 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:42.280
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:43.120
  • > LEON: SO, SOMEWHERE AS
  • 00:40:43.120 --> 00:40:44.080
  • CHRISTIANS, WE'VE LOST OUR
  • 00:40:44.080 --> 00:40:45.000
  • ATTRACTIVENESS TO THE WORLD.
  • 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:45.230
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:46.150
  • - LEON: BUT OUR JESUS WASN'T
  • 00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:47.060
  • LIKE WE ARE.
  • 00:40:47.060 --> 00:40:49.090
  • HE ATTRACTED THEM IN DROVES.
  • 00:40:49.090 --> 00:40:50.140
  • SO, HOLY SPIRIT MUST BE AN
  • 00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:51.220
  • ATTRACTIVE FORCE.
  • 00:40:51.220 --> 00:40:54.000
  • SO, NO WONDER PEOPLE ON THESE
  • 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.220
  • TV SHOWS ARE GOING TOWARDS
  • 00:40:55.220 --> 00:40:56.240
  • NEW AGE, EVEN INTERESTED IN
  • 00:40:56.240 --> 00:40:58.170
  • OTHER RELIGIONS, WHICH THEY
  • 00:40:58.170 --> 00:40:59.130
  • DON'T REALLY CHECK OUT THAT
  • 00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:00.130
  • WELL.
  • 00:41:00.130 --> 00:41:02.090
  • WE HAVE THE ANSWER!
  • 00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:03.090
  • PHENOMENAL, AMAZING POWER.
  • 00:41:03.090 --> 00:41:04.130
  • BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO FLOW
  • 00:41:04.130 --> 00:41:05.160
  • UNTIL WE LEARN TO BE
  • 00:41:05.160 --> 00:41:06.270
  • CONTEMPORARY.
  • 00:41:06.270 --> 00:41:09.040
  • BECAUSE, YOU CAN'T RECEIVE THE
  • 00:41:09.040 --> 00:41:10.170
  • GIFT FROM A PROPHET UNTIL YOU
  • 00:41:10.170 --> 00:41:12.080
  • RECEIVE THE PROPHET.
  • 00:41:12.080 --> 00:41:13.250
  • JESUS SAID THAT.
  • 00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:16.080
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:17.050
  • - LEON: SO, UNTIL THEY ACCEPT
  • 00:41:17.050 --> 00:41:18.170
  • ME AS A MAN THEY WANNA LISTEN
  • 00:41:18.170 --> 00:41:20.020
  • TO, UNTIL THEY GO, "OH, I GOTTA
  • 00:41:20.020 --> 00:41:21.190
  • HEAR FROM THIS GUY -- TALK TO
  • 00:41:21.190 --> 00:41:22.230
  • ME," -- UNTIL THEY DO THAT,
  • 00:41:22.230 --> 00:41:23.240
  • THEIR HEART IS CLOSED TO ME.
  • 00:41:23.240 --> 00:41:26.060
  • SO, THE FIRST THING I MUST DO
  • 00:41:26.060 --> 00:41:27.070
  • IS APPROACH THEM IN A WAY WHERE
  • 00:41:27.070 --> 00:41:29.070
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS CLOSED,
  • 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:30.180
  • HURTING, ABUSED HEART THAT'S
  • 00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:33.190
  • BEEN KICKED AND HURT AND-- AND
  • 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:36.120
  • BETRAYED BEGINS TO SENSE THE
  • 00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:38.220
  • JESUS IN ME.
  • 00:41:38.220 --> 00:41:39.160
  • AND THEN IT JUST OPENS UP
  • 00:41:39.160 --> 00:41:40.290
  • AND GOD CAN TOUCH IT.
  • 00:41:40.290 --> 00:41:43.220
  • JUST SCREAMING, PREACHING,
  • 00:41:43.220 --> 00:41:44.290
  • JUDGING AT PEOPLE IS NOT GONNA
  • 00:41:44.290 --> 00:41:46.150
  • DO IT.
  • 00:41:46.150 --> 00:41:47.110
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:41:47.110 --> 00:41:48.010
  • - LEON: BUT LOVING THEM WILL.
  • 00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:48.260
  • - LAURIE: MMMM...
  • 00:41:50.040 --> 00:41:53.040
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, LEON, THIS
  • 00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:53.250
  • IS AMAZING.
  • 00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:54.120
  • AND IF YOU JUST TUNED IN,
  • 00:41:54.120 --> 00:41:55.210
  • LEON FONTAINE, PASTOR OF THE
  • 00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:58.200
  • MIRACLE CHANNEL.
  • 00:41:58.200 --> 00:42:00.100
  • MIRACLE CHANNEL IS HOW
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:03.020
  • 7 MILLION HOMES IN CANADA
  • 00:42:03.020 --> 00:42:05.070
  • RECEIVE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.
  • 00:42:05.070 --> 00:42:06.190
  • AND TBN'S A BIG PART OF THAT.
  • 00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:08.130
  • AND, MIRACLE CHANNEL IS ONE OF
  • 00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:11.110
  • THE TRINITY FAMILY OF NETWORKS.
  • 00:42:11.110 --> 00:42:12.200
  • LEON IS ITS CEO.
  • 00:42:12.200 --> 00:42:14.190
  • LEON...WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:42:17.220 --> 00:42:20.220
  • SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
  • 00:42:20.220 --> 00:42:21.170
  • THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF WHAT
  • 00:42:21.170 --> 00:42:22.060
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:42:22.060 --> 00:42:23.110
  • YOU KNOW WHAT JUST CAME TO MIND
  • 00:42:23.110 --> 00:42:24.270
  • IS, AGAIN, A THROWBACK AND A
  • 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:26.240
  • SHOUT-OUT TO THE FULL GOSPEL
  • 00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:27.140
  • BUSINESS MEN'S FELLOWSHIP.
  • 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.280
  • BROTHER DEMOS SHAKARIAN WAS
  • 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.170
  • AROUND TBN, YOU KNOW, 43 YEARS
  • 00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:33.280
  • AGO.
  • 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.240
  • DEMOS SHAKARIAN WAS A
  • 00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:37.220
  • CONTEMPORARY OF MY FATHER'S.
  • 00:42:37.220 --> 00:42:40.150
  • - LEON: WOW...
  • 00:42:40.150 --> 00:42:42.010
  • - MATT: AND...I KNOW WHAT HE
  • 00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:42.220
  • WAS TRYING TO SAY.
  • 00:42:42.220 --> 00:42:43.220
  • ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE
  • 00:42:43.220 --> 00:42:46.120
  • HAVE THIS KIND OF HURRY-UP
  • 00:42:46.120 --> 00:42:47.210
  • EVANGELISM--
  • 00:42:50.020 --> 00:42:53.020
  • WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING IS A
  • 00:42:53.020 --> 00:42:53.230
  • PASTOR HAS A SMALL CHURCH AND
  • 00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:58.170
  • HE AGGRESSIVELY WANTS TO SAY,
  • 00:42:58.170 --> 00:43:00.110
  • "BOW THE KNEE, GET RIGHT, OR
  • 00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:02.040
  • GET OUT."
  • 00:43:03.270 --> 00:43:06.270
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:43:06.270 --> 00:43:07.180
  • - MATT: AND THERE'S THIS KIND
  • 00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:08.200
  • OF EXPEDIENCY.
  • 00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:10.140
  • THERE'S A-- YOU GOTTA GET THIS
  • 00:43:10.140 --> 00:43:11.060
  • DONE FAST.
  • 00:43:11.060 --> 00:43:11.180
  • - LEON: MM-HMM.
  • 00:43:11.180 --> 00:43:14.020
  • - MATT: AND, WHAT
  • 00:43:14.020 --> 00:43:15.190
  • IT FELT LIKE THE FULL GOSPEL
  • 00:43:15.190 --> 00:43:16.100
  • BUSINESS MEN WERE TRYING TO
  • 00:43:16.100 --> 00:43:17.030
  • TEACH US -- AND WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:17.230
  • TRYING TO TEACH US -- IS WHEN
  • 00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:18.230
  • YOU EQUIP THE SAINTS, YOU HAVE
  • 00:43:18.230 --> 00:43:20.010
  • JUST BASICALLY EMPOWERED, YOU
  • 00:43:20.010 --> 00:43:22.110
  • KNOW -- ESTIMATES NOW BEING $2
  • 00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:28.260
  • BILLION CHRISTIANS -- 2 BILLION
  • 00:43:30.020 --> 00:43:33.020
  • TOUCH POINTS THAT COULD BE
  • 00:43:33.020 --> 00:43:34.260
  • REACHING AND TOUCHING 2 BILLION
  • 00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:35.200
  • PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.
  • 00:43:35.200 --> 00:43:38.130
  • BUT IF YOU DO THE MATH...
  • 00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:40.140
  • AND, WE'VE GOTTA GET, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:43:40.140 --> 00:43:43.010
  • THE UNSAVED PEOPLE -- LET'S
  • 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:46.020
  • CALL 'EM 5 BILLION PEOPLE ON
  • 00:43:46.020 --> 00:43:48.150
  • EARTH -- INTO ONE OF THE, YOU
  • 00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:52.230
  • KNOW, 500.000, 500-- HOWEVER
  • 00:43:54.040 --> 00:43:57.040
  • MANY CHURCHES THERE ARE IN THE
  • 00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:58.030
  • WORLD--
  • 00:43:58.030 --> 00:43:59.060
  • - LEON: YEAH, YEAH.
  • 00:43:59.060 --> 00:44:00.170
  • - MATT: --AND WE'VE GOT TO GET
  • 00:44:00.170 --> 00:44:01.090
  • ALL THESE PEOPLE -- 5 BILLION
  • 00:44:01.090 --> 00:44:02.190
  • PEOPLE -- INTO 500--, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:44:02.190 --> 00:44:05.050
  • THOUSAND CHURCHES OR WHATEVER
  • 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:06.150
  • IT IS...
  • 00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:07.100
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:44:07.100 --> 00:44:09.190
  • IT SEEMS LIKE THEN YOU HAVE TO
  • 00:44:09.190 --> 00:44:10.190
  • HAVE A HURRY-UP CAMPAIGN.
  • 00:44:10.190 --> 00:44:11.160
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:44:11.160 --> 00:44:12.290
  • - MATT: BUT IF YOU EMPOWER
  • 00:44:12.290 --> 00:44:14.070
  • PEOPLE IN THEIR WORKPLACE, IN
  • 00:44:14.070 --> 00:44:16.260
  • THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY
  • 00:44:16.260 --> 00:44:19.250
  • HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKING IN
  • 00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:22.040
  • THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE JESUS
  • 00:44:24.090 --> 00:44:27.090
  • REAL TO PEOPLE, YOU'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:44:27.090 --> 00:44:29.010
  • ABOUT AN ABILITY TO CHANGE THE
  • 00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:31.280
  • PLANET PRETTY QUICKLY.
  • 00:44:32.010 --> 00:44:35.010
  • SO, THIS IS KIND OF A BIG
  • 00:44:35.010 --> 00:44:36.270
  • SUBJECT HERE--
  • 00:44:36.270 --> 00:44:37.210
  • - LEON: IT'S HUGE!
  • 00:44:37.210 --> 00:44:38.180
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:44:38.180 --> 00:44:39.080
  • - LEON: IT IS!
  • 00:44:39.080 --> 00:44:39.260
  • - MATT: --THAT WE CAN'T TAKE
  • 00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:41.030
  • WHAT GINORMOUS, BIG THINGS,
  • 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.000
  • LIKE AN AZUSA STREET, AND START
  • 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.100
  • PUTTING POPES ON TOP OF IT SO
  • 00:44:47.260 --> 00:44:50.260
  • THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME TO
  • 00:44:50.260 --> 00:44:51.180
  • ONE OF THESE POPES.
  • 00:44:51.180 --> 00:44:53.180
  • WE'VE GOT TO GET THE FIVEFOLD
  • 00:44:53.180 --> 00:44:54.230
  • MINISTRY, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE
  • 00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:56.110
  • HOLY SPIRIT WORKING THROUGH
  • 00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:57.080
  • EVERYONE.
  • 00:44:57.080 --> 00:44:59.100
  • WHEN IT DOES, THINGS CAN CHANGE
  • 00:44:59.100 --> 00:45:00.040
  • VERY QUICKLY.
  • 00:45:00.040 --> 00:45:01.060
  • - LAURIE: WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT
  • 00:45:01.060 --> 00:45:01.280
  • I THINK IS IMPORTANT?
  • 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.040
  • IS FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY
  • 00:45:04.040 --> 00:45:05.070
  • REALIZE WHEN THEY ACCEPT
  • 00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:06.100
  • CHRIST, WHAT DO THEY GET, LEON?
  • 00:45:06.100 --> 00:45:09.040
  • WHAT-- HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT--
  • 00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:10.270
  • WHEN YOU SAY THE SINNER'S
  • 00:45:10.270 --> 00:45:12.140
  • PRAYER, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE
  • 00:45:12.140 --> 00:45:14.030
  • CALLED THAT NUMBER ON THE
  • 00:45:14.030 --> 00:45:15.160
  • SCREEN, AND YOU'VE SAID, "OKAY,
  • 00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:16.080
  • I CONFESS CHRIST AS MY LORD,"
  • 00:45:16.080 --> 00:45:18.050
  • WHAT-- WE NEED TO STEP BEYOND
  • 00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:20.190
  • THAT.
  • 00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:21.030
  • WHAT DOES THAT GIVE US?
  • 00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:23.060
  • AS BELIEVERS.
  • 00:45:23.060 --> 00:45:23.260
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:45:23.260 --> 00:45:24.090
  • IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:24.240
  • SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE
  • 00:45:24.240 --> 00:45:26.260
  • IT'S A JOURNEY.
  • 00:45:26.260 --> 00:45:27.250
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:45:27.250 --> 00:45:28.290
  • - LEON: YOU DON'T GET MARRIED,
  • 00:45:28.290 --> 00:45:29.210
  • THEN GO, "I'M FINISHED, I'M
  • 00:45:29.210 --> 00:45:30.110
  • DONE, I FINALLY MARRIED HER!"
  • 00:45:30.110 --> 00:45:31.040
  • AND THEN GO OFF.
  • 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:32.220
  • IT'S THE START OF A
  • 00:45:32.220 --> 00:45:33.100
  • RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:45:33.100 --> 00:45:34.140
  • SO, WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR
  • 00:45:34.140 --> 00:45:35.210
  • LIVES TO JESUS CHRIST, AND HE
  • 00:45:35.210 --> 00:45:37.130
  • COMES WITHIN THEM, THEY ARE--
  • 00:45:37.130 --> 00:45:39.080
  • IT'S NOT JUST A FORGIVENESS OF
  • 00:45:39.080 --> 00:45:40.200
  • SINS.
  • 00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:42.050
  • THE LIGHTS COME ON.
  • 00:45:42.050 --> 00:45:43.180
  • THEY'RE A BRAND-NEW CREATION.
  • 00:45:43.270 --> 00:45:46.270
  • THEY HAVE A CAPACITY TO LEARN,
  • 00:45:46.270 --> 00:45:48.150
  • A CAPACITY TO HOUSE.
  • 00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:49.280
  • THEY'VE GOT THE PRESENCE OF
  • 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:50.260
  • GOD.
  • 00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:51.250
  • AND NOW, WE HAVE SO DOWNPLAYED
  • 00:45:51.250 --> 00:45:53.080
  • THIS, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW:
  • 00:45:53.080 --> 00:45:54.180
  • BRING 'EM UP IN CREW AND PUT
  • 00:45:54.180 --> 00:45:55.280
  • 'EM OVER THERE IN THE
  • 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.070
  • CLASSROOM, AND STAMP 'EM.
  • 00:45:57.070 --> 00:45:58.160
  • - LAURIE: PUT THEIR NAME ON A
  • 00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:00.030
  • BOARD.
  • 00:46:00.030 --> 00:46:00.190
  • - LEON: AND ATTEND CHURCH
  • 00:46:00.190 --> 00:46:01.090
  • REGULARLY AND TITHE.
  • 00:46:01.090 --> 00:46:02.090
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:46:02.090 --> 00:46:02.260
  • - LEON: AND, WE'VE KIND OF
  • 00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:03.250
  • BACKED AWAY BECAUSE WE'VE
  • 00:46:03.250 --> 00:46:04.140
  • ALMOST THOUGHT, "WELL, I DON'T
  • 00:46:04.140 --> 00:46:05.140
  • WANNA LET THEM DOWN BY THEIR
  • 00:46:05.140 --> 00:46:06.200
  • PRAYING FOR THE SICK OR GETTING
  • 00:46:06.200 --> 00:46:07.230
  • A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE."
  • 00:46:07.230 --> 00:46:08.220
  • BUT, IF YOU WERE TO REALLY ASK
  • 00:46:08.220 --> 00:46:10.170
  • ME WHAT DO I THINK WOULD CAUSE
  • 00:46:10.170 --> 00:46:12.000
  • MASSIVE RISE AMONGST CHRISTIAN
  • 00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:15.210
  • PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE TO BEGIN TO
  • 00:46:15.210 --> 00:46:17.140
  • SPEAK TRUTH.
  • 00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:21.230
  • BECAUSE JOHN 8:32 SAYS: "AND
  • 00:46:21.230 --> 00:46:23.140
  • YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE
  • 00:46:23.180 --> 00:46:26.180
  • TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE."
  • 00:46:26.180 --> 00:46:29.000
  • - MATT: WE'RE SITTING WITH
  • 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.090
  • LEON FONTAINE HERE IN BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:31.180
  • AND LEON'S PROGRAM
  • 00:46:34.120 --> 00:46:35.060
  • "SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY" AIRS ON
  • 00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.110
  • TBN FRIDAYS AT 9:30 PACIFIC
  • 00:46:38.110 --> 00:46:40.220
  • IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN LEON'S
  • 00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:44.040
  • - LEON: YOU KNOW THAT WHEN
  • 00:46:47.040 --> 00:46:49.070
  • JESUS CAME TO THE PLANET AND HE
  • 00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:50.050
  • WAS BORN AND HE GREW UP THAT HE
  • 00:46:50.050 --> 00:46:51.140
  • LOVED EVERYBODY.
  • 00:46:51.140 --> 00:46:54.060
  • THE ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE HE
  • 00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:55.270
  • STRUGGLED WITH WERE JUDGMENTAL
  • 00:46:55.270 --> 00:46:56.190
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:46:56.190 --> 00:46:58.030
  • IF YOU'RE SITTING HERE RIGHT
  • 00:46:58.030 --> 00:46:58.270
  • NOW AND YOU DON'T SERVE GOD
  • 00:46:59.060 --> 00:47:02.080
  • BECAUSE YOU KNOW A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:03.200
  • THAT T-T-T-T-T-T-TICKED YOU OFF
  • 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:04.280
  • AND IF THAT'S A CHRISTIAN,
  • 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.200
  • BLESS GOD, I AIN'T GOIN' TO
  • 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:09.030
  • CHURCH -- YOU ARE JUDGMENTAL.
  • 00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:11.210
  • WHAT?! ME?!
  • 00:47:11.210 --> 00:47:12.100
  • YEAH, YOU!
  • 00:47:12.100 --> 00:47:15.010
  • YOU'RE NOT EXPERIENCING GOD
  • 00:47:15.010 --> 00:47:15.210
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE JUDGING SOMEBODY
  • 00:47:15.210 --> 00:47:16.130
  • ELSE WHO WAS A JERK.
  • 00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:18.170
  • REALLY? YOU'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE
  • 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:19.080
  • A MOTORBIKE BECAUSE OF HELL'S
  • 00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:19.290
  • ANGELS?
  • 00:47:19.290 --> 00:47:22.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:22.110 --> 00:47:23.090
  • REALLY?
  • 00:47:23.090 --> 00:47:24.120
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNA DRIVE A FAST
  • 00:47:24.120 --> 00:47:25.270
  • CAR BECAUSE OF THE MAFIA?
  • 00:47:25.270 --> 00:47:27.120
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:29.250
  • YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET MARRIED
  • 00:47:29.250 --> 00:47:30.210
  • BECAUSE OF DIVORCES?
  • 00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:32.160
  • LIKE, JUDGMENT IS WHEN YOU LOOK
  • 00:47:32.160 --> 00:47:35.140
  • AT SOMEBODY ELSE AND YOU HOLD
  • 00:47:35.140 --> 00:47:37.030
  • THEM TO A LIST OF RULES AND
  • 00:47:37.030 --> 00:47:39.080
  • JESUS SAYS: "DON'T JUDGE,
  • 00:47:39.080 --> 00:47:40.290
  • - MATT: THE "PRAISE THE LORD"
  • 00:47:43.050 --> 00:47:43.260
  • PROGRAM IS FILLED UP TODAY WITH
  • 00:47:44.230 --> 00:47:47.230
  • SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
  • 00:47:47.230 --> 00:47:48.100
  • OUR GUEST -- LEON FONTAINE.
  • 00:47:48.100 --> 00:47:49.000
  • WELCOME TO TEXAS.
  • 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.020
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:47:50.020 --> 00:47:50.280
  • OKAY, YOUR COMMENT JUST A
  • 00:47:52.020 --> 00:47:55.020
  • MOMENT AGO, BEFORE THE CLIP,
  • 00:47:55.020 --> 00:47:55.230
  • WAS REALLY ABOUT WHAT IS INSIDE
  • 00:47:58.020 --> 00:48:01.040
  • OF A PERSON NOW THAT THEY'VE
  • 00:48:01.040 --> 00:48:01.250
  • ACCEPTED JESUS AND--
  • 00:48:01.250 --> 00:48:04.160
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:05.090
  • AND HOW DO WE ACTIVATE THE
  • 00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:05.290
  • POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN OUR
  • 00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:06.210
  • LIVES?
  • 00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:07.050
  • - MATT: AND EQUIP PEOPLE.
  • 00:48:07.050 --> 00:48:08.040
  • SO, UH...WE'RE IN OUR LAST
  • 00:48:08.040 --> 00:48:09.050
  • CHUNK OF PROGRAM HERE.
  • 00:48:11.070 --> 00:48:14.070
  • AND SO, LEON, KIND OF TAKE OVER
  • 00:48:14.070 --> 00:48:16.100
  • WHERE YOU WANNA TAKE OVER AND
  • 00:48:16.100 --> 00:48:17.120
  • GO WHERE YOU WANNA GO.
  • 00:48:17.120 --> 00:48:17.290
  • WE CERTAINLY WANNA PRAY FOR
  • 00:48:17.290 --> 00:48:18.190
  • FOLK.
  • 00:48:19.100 --> 00:48:22.100
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:24.070
  • - MATT: AND WE CERTAINLY
  • 00:48:24.070 --> 00:48:25.250
  • WANNA, YOU KNOW, GET THEM
  • 00:48:25.250 --> 00:48:28.190
  • EMPOWERED AND GET THEM, YOU
  • 00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:29.090
  • KNOW, EQUIPPED AND PRAY THAT
  • 00:48:29.090 --> 00:48:30.000
  • THEY'LL UNDERSTAND, REALLY,
  • 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:30.240
  • WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • 00:48:30.240 --> 00:48:31.240
  • BUT-- BUT START WHERE YOU WANNA
  • 00:48:31.240 --> 00:48:33.000
  • START RIGHT NOW AND MOVE INTO
  • 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.070
  • KIND OF THE FINAL PIECE OF THE
  • 00:48:35.070 --> 00:48:35.280
  • PROGRAM HERE TOGETHER TODAY.
  • 00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:36.260
  • - LEON: YEAH, THAT'S GOOD
  • 00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:37.190
  • BECAUSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE
  • 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:40.190
  • TREATED THE WORD AS THOUGH IT
  • 00:48:40.190 --> 00:48:41.280
  • CREATES ALL OF THESE RULES AND
  • 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:43.240
  • IT CREATES ALL OF THESE
  • 00:48:43.240 --> 00:48:44.120
  • BOUNDARIES.
  • 00:48:44.120 --> 00:48:46.220
  • AND THEN WE HAVE NINE GIFTS OF
  • 00:48:49.060 --> 00:48:50.010
  • THE SPIRIT -- THREE SAY
  • 00:48:50.010 --> 00:48:51.060
  • SOMETHING, THREE DO SOMETHING,
  • 00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:52.020
  • THREE REVEAL SOMETHING.
  • 00:48:52.020 --> 00:48:54.000
  • THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS
  • 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:54.210
  • WHAT THAT IS.
  • 00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:55.120
  • AND WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN JUST
  • 00:48:55.120 --> 00:48:56.080
  • THE BEAUTIFUL FLOW OF HOLY
  • 00:48:56.080 --> 00:48:58.260
  • SPIRIT THROUGH OUR LIVES, AND,
  • 00:48:58.260 --> 00:49:00.220
  • WE'VE CREATED A WHOLE PHD OUT
  • 00:49:00.220 --> 00:49:02.110
  • OF IT.
  • 00:49:02.110 --> 00:49:03.270
  • - MATT: SEGMENTS.
  • 00:49:03.270 --> 00:49:04.130
  • - LEON: YEAH, WE'VE SEGMENTED
  • 00:49:04.130 --> 00:49:05.080
  • IT WHERE-- AND SO, WE'VE GOT
  • 00:49:05.080 --> 00:49:06.140
  • THE PENTECOSTALS WHO BELIEVE
  • 00:49:06.140 --> 00:49:07.210
  • THAT YOU MUST BE SPEAKING IN
  • 00:49:07.210 --> 00:49:08.220
  • TONGUES AS A SECOND OPERATION
  • 00:49:08.220 --> 00:49:09.180
  • OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:49:09.230 --> 00:49:12.230
  • AND I'M JUST GOING REALLY FAST.
  • 00:49:12.230 --> 00:49:13.160
  • AND WE HAVE THE BAPTIST, WHO
  • 00:49:13.160 --> 00:49:14.210
  • DON'T BUY INTO THAT AT ALL.
  • 00:49:14.210 --> 00:49:15.110
  • YOU KNOW, MANY OF 'EM ARE
  • 00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:16.040
  • SAYING, "OKAY, WHEN YOU GET
  • 00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:17.140
  • SAVED YOU GOT"--
  • 00:49:17.140 --> 00:49:17.290
  • AND, RATHER THAN DIVE INTO
  • 00:49:17.290 --> 00:49:20.020
  • THAT, WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY
  • 00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.130
  • THAT IF YOU DESIRE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:25.050
  • TO FLOW IN YOUR LIFE SO THAT
  • 00:49:25.050 --> 00:49:26.190
  • YOU CAN SHARE WITH PEOPLE IN A
  • 00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:29.010
  • WAY THAT WHEN YOU OPEN YOUR
  • 00:49:29.010 --> 00:49:31.050
  • MOUTH HE FILLS IT WITH THE
  • 00:49:31.050 --> 00:49:32.190
  • PERFECT WORDS, THAT THEY'RE
  • 00:49:32.190 --> 00:49:34.080
  • JUST TOUCHED RIGHT TO THE
  • 00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:35.040
  • HEART--
  • 00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:35.270
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN JESUS TALKED, IT
  • 00:49:35.270 --> 00:49:37.060
  • ALWAYS TOUCHED THE HEART.
  • 00:49:37.060 --> 00:49:38.100
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:49:38.100 --> 00:49:38.260
  • - LEON: WHEN WE TALK, IT OFTEN
  • 00:49:38.260 --> 00:49:40.100
  • JUST TOUCHES THE HEAD.
  • 00:49:40.100 --> 00:49:41.220
  • AND, IF WE GO TO PRAY FOR
  • 00:49:41.220 --> 00:49:42.170
  • PEOPLE, AS HOLY SPIRIT FLOWS,
  • 00:49:42.170 --> 00:49:44.050
  • DO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER IT
  • 00:49:44.050 --> 00:49:45.270
  • WAS A GIFTS OF HEALINGS OR
  • 00:49:45.270 --> 00:49:48.190
  • WHETHER IT WAS A GIFT OF FAITH
  • 00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:50.130
  • OR WHETHER IT WAS A WORKING OF
  • 00:49:50.130 --> 00:49:51.080
  • MIRACLES?
  • 00:49:51.080 --> 00:49:52.030
  • I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SO
  • 00:49:52.030 --> 00:49:53.030
  • CONSUMED BY THIS THAT IT
  • 00:49:53.030 --> 00:49:54.080
  • DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
  • 00:49:54.080 --> 00:49:55.210
  • I'VE JUST LEARNED TO GO INTO A
  • 00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:57.140
  • SITUATION AND SAY: HOLY SPIRIT,
  • 00:49:57.140 --> 00:49:58.280
  • YOU'RE HERE WITH ME.
  • 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.270
  • AND ONCE I GOT-- DOCTRINALLY, I
  • 00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:01.220
  • JUST GOT HAPPY WITH THIS, OKAY?
  • 00:50:02.130 --> 00:50:05.130
  • AND, BY THE WAY, THERE'S SO
  • 00:50:05.130 --> 00:50:07.020
  • MUCH TEACHING ON THIS AND WE'RE
  • 00:50:07.020 --> 00:50:08.140
  • BLASTING THROUGH A LOT OF IT.
  • 00:50:08.140 --> 00:50:09.180
  • AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME
  • 00:50:09.180 --> 00:50:10.210
  • GORGEOUS DOCTRINES OF
  • 00:50:10.210 --> 00:50:11.260
  • HOLY SPIRIT AND THE GIFTS
  • 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:13.120
  • THAT I'M NOT POO-POOING IT.
  • 00:50:13.120 --> 00:50:14.020
  • I'M JUST SAYING WE'VE JUST MADE
  • 00:50:14.020 --> 00:50:15.140
  • IT SO HARD THAT NO ONE KNOWS:
  • 00:50:15.140 --> 00:50:16.240
  • OKAY, I'M IN THE-- IS GOD GONNA
  • 00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:18.140
  • USE ME NOW?
  • 00:50:18.140 --> 00:50:19.150
  • BUT, INSTEAD, HOLY SPIRIT'S
  • 00:50:19.150 --> 00:50:21.120
  • TRYING TO SHOW US HE'S ALWAYS
  • 00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:22.200
  • GOING TO USE US TO DO GOOD.
  • 00:50:22.200 --> 00:50:23.200
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:50:23.200 --> 00:50:25.120
  • - LEON: HOLY SPIRIT WANTS US
  • 00:50:25.120 --> 00:50:26.050
  • TO KNOW THAT WHETHER YOU'RE
  • 00:50:26.050 --> 00:50:27.100
  • BAPTIST OR PENTECOSTAL, YOU CAN
  • 00:50:27.100 --> 00:50:29.000
  • DESIRE TO FLOW WITH HIM.
  • 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.240
  • HE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THINGS
  • 00:50:30.240 --> 00:50:32.030
  • TO COME.
  • 00:50:32.030 --> 00:50:33.050
  • HE'S GOING TO LEAD YOU INTO ALL
  • 00:50:33.050 --> 00:50:35.040
  • TRUTH.
  • 00:50:35.040 --> 00:50:36.230
  • HE'S GOING TO USE YOU TO TOUCH
  • 00:50:36.230 --> 00:50:38.020
  • PEOPLE.
  • 00:50:38.020 --> 00:50:39.100
  • AND IF WE CAN GO TO THERE AND
  • 00:50:39.100 --> 00:50:40.150
  • THEN JUST EVERY DAY JUST START
  • 00:50:40.150 --> 00:50:41.160
  • PRAYING, "HOLY SPIRIT, USE ME;
  • 00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:44.030
  • HOLY SPIRIT, SHOW THINGS TO ME;
  • 00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:45.220
  • HOLY SPIRIT, LET ME PRAY WITH
  • 00:50:45.220 --> 00:50:47.050
  • PEOPLE FOR POWER AND FOR
  • 00:50:47.050 --> 00:50:48.290
  • HEALING"--
  • 00:50:48.290 --> 00:50:49.290
  • AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I DID AS A
  • 00:50:49.290 --> 00:50:51.170
  • PARAMEDIC THERE.
  • 00:50:51.240 --> 00:50:54.240
  • AND INCREDIBLE MIRACLES FLOW.
  • 00:50:54.240 --> 00:50:56.270
  • YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER
  • 00:50:56.270 --> 00:50:57.170
  • THINGS I'M GONNA TOUCH ON --
  • 00:50:57.170 --> 00:50:58.210
  • I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THE
  • 00:50:58.210 --> 00:50:59.150
  • MIRACLES OF HEALINGS -- THE
  • 00:50:59.150 --> 00:51:00.210
  • THING THAT REALLY ALSO
  • 00:51:00.210 --> 00:51:02.000
  • CONTAINED ME WAS MY END TIMES
  • 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.030
  • DOCTRINE.
  • 00:51:03.030 --> 00:51:04.140
  • GOD HAD TO CHANGE MY STUFF ON
  • 00:51:04.140 --> 00:51:05.050
  • THE HOLY SPIRIT TEACHING.
  • 00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:07.000
  • I MEAN, HE HAD TO MESS WITH ME
  • 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.100
  • ON MY END-TIMES DOCTRINE.
  • 00:51:08.100 --> 00:51:09.100
  • WHEN I WAS A KID, ANOTHER THING
  • 00:51:09.100 --> 00:51:10.230
  • THAT I HAD TO DEAL WITH WAS
  • 00:51:10.230 --> 00:51:12.060
  • THAT I WENT TO THIS MOVIE
  • 00:51:12.060 --> 00:51:13.150
  • CALLED "A THIEF IN THE NIGHT."
  • 00:51:13.150 --> 00:51:14.270
  • I THINK THEY LET US BRING IT
  • 00:51:14.270 --> 00:51:16.070
  • INTO OUR CHURCHES, EVEN, AT
  • 00:51:16.070 --> 00:51:16.270
  • SOME POINT.
  • 00:51:16.270 --> 00:51:18.160
  • AND, IT JUST SCARED ME TO NO
  • 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:19.100
  • END THAT THIS WAS HOW JESUS WAS
  • 00:51:19.100 --> 00:51:22.040
  • COMING BACK, THAT THE CHURCH
  • 00:51:22.040 --> 00:51:24.070
  • WAS GONNA BE PERSECUTED AND
  • 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:25.280
  • WHIPPED AND BEATEN, AND THE
  • 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.080
  • GOSPEL WASN'T GOING TO PREVAIL
  • 00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:28.220
  • IN COUNTRIES, BUT WORLD
  • 00:51:28.220 --> 00:51:29.280
  • GOVERNMENTS WERE GONNA RISE UP.
  • 00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:31.120
  • AND THEN, JESUS WOULD HAVE TO
  • 00:51:31.120 --> 00:51:32.190
  • COME IN AND RESCUE ME.
  • 00:51:32.190 --> 00:51:35.100
  • SO, THIS THING THAT I HAD BEEN
  • 00:51:35.100 --> 00:51:37.200
  • TAUGHT THAT "IF I BE LIFTED
  • 00:51:37.200 --> 00:51:38.100
  • UP...I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO
  • 00:51:38.100 --> 00:51:39.290
  • ME"-- JESUS SAID THAT "THE
  • 00:51:39.290 --> 00:51:42.000
  • GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL
  • 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:43.290
  • AGAINST [THE CHURCH]."
  • 00:51:43.290 --> 00:51:45.110
  • JESUS SAID GO INTO THE WORLD
  • 00:51:45.110 --> 00:51:46.130
  • "AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL
  • 00:51:46.130 --> 00:51:47.150
  • NATIONS."
  • 00:51:47.150 --> 00:51:48.160
  • SO, I'D HAD THIS DOCTRINE OF:
  • 00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:49.250
  • WE'RE GONNA GET UP AND THE
  • 00:51:49.250 --> 00:51:50.210
  • CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST IS GOING
  • 00:51:50.210 --> 00:51:51.250
  • TO ADVANCE AND TAKE COUNTRIES,
  • 00:51:51.250 --> 00:51:52.270
  • AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE
  • 00:51:52.270 --> 00:51:53.270
  • GOVERNMENTS, WE'RE GONNA RISE
  • 00:51:53.270 --> 00:51:55.040
  • UP AND BE IN CHARGE OF MOVIES.
  • 00:51:55.040 --> 00:51:56.000
  • AND I MEAN, THIS WAS MY--
  • 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.050
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S LIKE,
  • 00:51:57.050 --> 00:51:57.290
  • "OH..."
  • 00:51:57.290 --> 00:51:59.200
  • AND THEN, EVERYWHERE I WENT--
  • 00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:01.050
  • AND SO, WHATEVER YOUR END-TIMES
  • 00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:02.240
  • DOCTRINE IS, PLEASE GET RID OF
  • 00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:04.080
  • THE DEFEATEDNESS THAT GOES WITH
  • 00:52:04.080 --> 00:52:05.140
  • IT.
  • 00:52:05.140 --> 00:52:07.000
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:07.180
  • - LEON: I MEAN, I WAS SO
  • 00:52:07.180 --> 00:52:08.110
  • SCARED I WAS GOING, "GOD,
  • 00:52:08.110 --> 00:52:09.080
  • PLEASE DON'T COME BACK TILL AT
  • 00:52:09.080 --> 00:52:09.290
  • LEAST-- I WANNA GET MARRIED AND
  • 00:52:09.290 --> 00:52:10.280
  • MAKE SURE THAT I CAN TRY SEX,"
  • 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.060
  • YOU KNOW.
  • 00:52:12.060 --> 00:52:13.170
  • "BE ABLE TO-- I WANNA MAKE SURE
  • 00:52:13.170 --> 00:52:14.090
  • I CAN HAVE BABIES.
  • 00:52:14.090 --> 00:52:15.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:15.120
  • I WANT-- OH, GOD, THERE'S SO
  • 00:52:15.120 --> 00:52:16.030
  • MANY THINGS I WANNA--
  • 00:52:16.030 --> 00:52:16.200
  • DON'T COME BACK YET!"
  • 00:52:16.200 --> 00:52:18.030
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:19.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.030
  • AND THEN-- AND I MEAN EVERYBODY
  • 00:52:20.030 --> 00:52:20.250
  • WAS--
  • 00:52:20.250 --> 00:52:21.110
  • - LAURIE: DID YOU HAVE TO SAY
  • 00:52:21.110 --> 00:52:22.090
  • THAT?
  • 00:52:22.090 --> 00:52:23.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:23.220 --> 00:52:24.060
  • - LEON: I THINK CHRISTIANS ARE
  • 00:52:24.060 --> 00:52:24.280
  • OKAY WITH THAT, TOO.
  • 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.190
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:26.110
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:52:26.110 --> 00:52:27.240
  • - LEON: BUT, THEN I BEGAN TO
  • 00:52:27.240 --> 00:52:29.040
  • RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT'S THE SENSE
  • 00:52:29.040 --> 00:52:30.120
  • OF GOING TO UNIVERSITY AND
  • 00:52:30.120 --> 00:52:31.290
  • GETTING A DEGREE?
  • 00:52:31.290 --> 00:52:32.260
  • WHAT'S THE SENSE IN GOING TO
  • 00:52:32.260 --> 00:52:33.170
  • SEMINARY AND GETTING A DEGREE
  • 00:52:33.170 --> 00:52:34.100
  • THERE?
  • 00:52:34.100 --> 00:52:35.280
  • WHAT'S THE SENSE IN BUYING
  • 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:36.170
  • BUILDINGS?
  • 00:52:36.170 --> 00:52:37.070
  • JUST RUSH TO THE STREETS AND
  • 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:37.280
  • GET 'EM SAVED.
  • 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.170
  • BECAUSE WE MUST BE READY TODAY!
  • 00:52:38.170 --> 00:52:40.020
  • CAUSE TODAY--
  • 00:52:40.020 --> 00:52:41.120
  • AND SO, WE FELT LIKE THIS SENSE
  • 00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:43.250
  • OF URGENCY WAS GONNA KEEP US
  • 00:52:43.250 --> 00:52:45.010
  • PURE, IT WAS GONNA KEEP US
  • 00:52:45.010 --> 00:52:45.210
  • READY.
  • 00:52:45.210 --> 00:52:46.190
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:52:46.190 --> 00:52:47.160
  • - LEON: AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS
  • 00:52:47.160 --> 00:52:48.240
  • -- FROM WHAT I CAN TELL -- FROM
  • 00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:50.070
  • MY GENERATION AND ON, WE HAD
  • 00:52:50.070 --> 00:52:51.290
  • THIS MASSIVE DISCONNECT.
  • 00:52:51.290 --> 00:52:54.010
  • JESUS IS COMING, JESUS IS
  • 00:52:54.010 --> 00:52:54.260
  • COMING, JESUS IS COMING!
  • 00:52:54.260 --> 00:52:56.180
  • BOOK SAYS HE'S COMING-- 1980.
  • 00:52:56.180 --> 00:52:58.040
  • HE'S COMING 1982.
  • 00:52:58.040 --> 00:52:59.000
  • HE'S COMING 1988.
  • 00:52:59.000 --> 00:52:59.270
  • HE'S COMING 2000.
  • 00:52:59.270 --> 00:53:00.290
  • HE'S COMING 2012.
  • 00:53:00.290 --> 00:53:02.000
  • WE GOT THE MAYAN CALENDAR--
  • 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:02.250
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:53:02.250 --> 00:53:03.280
  • - LEON: WE GOT ALL THESE BOOKS
  • 00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:04.200
  • THAT NO ONE APOLOGIZED OR GAVE
  • 00:53:04.200 --> 00:53:05.220
  • THEIR MONEY BACK.
  • 00:53:05.220 --> 00:53:07.000
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:07.190
  • THERE'S THIS MASSIVE REJECTION
  • 00:53:07.190 --> 00:53:09.110
  • NOW OF END TIMES.
  • 00:53:09.110 --> 00:53:10.040
  • AND: IS JESUS EVEN REAL?
  • 00:53:10.040 --> 00:53:11.220
  • IF ALL THESE QUALIFIED MEN AND
  • 00:53:11.220 --> 00:53:12.130
  • THEY ALL DISAGREE...
  • 00:53:12.130 --> 00:53:14.100
  • [SCOFFS]
  • 00:53:14.100 --> 00:53:15.100
  • SO, IF YOU'RE END-TIMES
  • 00:53:15.100 --> 00:53:16.270
  • DOCTRINE IS A ONE THAT IS A
  • 00:53:16.270 --> 00:53:19.110
  • DEFEATED ONE THAT JESUS HAS TO
  • 00:53:19.110 --> 00:53:21.130
  • RESCUE THE POOR LITTLE REMNANT
  • 00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:22.200
  • WHO ARE STRUGGLING...
  • 00:53:22.200 --> 00:53:24.100
  • MERCY DROPS AROUND US ARE
  • 00:53:24.100 --> 00:53:25.180
  • FALLING BUT FOR THE SHOWERS WE
  • 00:53:25.180 --> 00:53:27.070
  • PLEAD, HOLDING THE FORT TILL
  • 00:53:28.290 --> 00:53:31.290
  • JESUS RESTS--
  • 00:53:31.290 --> 00:53:32.270
  • WHAT IN THE WORLD?!
  • 00:53:32.270 --> 00:53:33.180
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:53:33.180 --> 00:53:34.280
  • NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU--
  • 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:35.210
  • AND IF YOU DO, YOU'RE TAKING IT
  • 00:53:35.210 --> 00:53:36.280
  • OUT OF CONTEXT.
  • 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.110
  • AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE'RE
  • 00:53:38.110 --> 00:53:39.140
  • GONNA ADVANCE AND BUY BUILDINGS
  • 00:53:39.140 --> 00:53:40.100
  • AND LANDS AND TELEVISION
  • 00:53:40.100 --> 00:53:41.070
  • STATIONS AND GET INTO COUNTRIES
  • 00:53:41.070 --> 00:53:42.290
  • AND LANGUAGES.
  • 00:53:42.290 --> 00:53:44.010
  • AND WHEN MY KIDS HEAR THAT,
  • 00:53:44.010 --> 00:53:44.210
  • THEY GO, "I WANNA GET ON BOARD
  • 00:53:44.210 --> 00:53:45.130
  • WITH THIS."
  • 00:53:45.130 --> 00:53:46.160
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:53:46.160 --> 00:53:47.050
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:53:47.050 --> 00:53:47.250
  • - LEON: "'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:53:47.250 --> 00:53:48.180
  • GONE, DAD, I'LL RUN THIS," AND
  • 00:53:48.180 --> 00:53:49.140
  • "I'M GONNA RUN THIS COUNTRY,"
  • 00:53:49.140 --> 00:53:50.050
  • AND "I'LL RUN THE TV," AND
  • 00:53:50.050 --> 00:53:51.000
  • "I'LL TAKE ON THIS."
  • 00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:51.250
  • THEY'VE GOT DREAMS AND VISIONS.
  • 00:53:51.250 --> 00:53:52.180
  • BUT IF JESUS IS COMING BACK AND
  • 00:53:52.180 --> 00:53:54.100
  • BLOWING IT ALL UP BECAUSE WE
  • 00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:55.010
  • DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO EVEN
  • 00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:55.270
  • TOUCH A NATION AND THE
  • 00:53:55.270 --> 00:53:57.080
  • ANTICHRIST--
  • 00:53:57.080 --> 00:53:59.090
  • SO, I'M NOT PICKING WHICH ONE
  • 00:53:59.090 --> 00:54:02.070
  • IS RIGHT AND WHICH ONE IS
  • 00:54:02.070 --> 00:54:02.260
  • WRONG.
  • 00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:03.120
  • WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE BETTER BE
  • 00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:04.040
  • A VICTORIOUS CHURCH WITHOUT
  • 00:54:04.040 --> 00:54:05.020
  • SPOT OR WRINKLE.
  • 00:54:05.020 --> 00:54:06.190
  • 'CAUSE IF IT'S NOT,
  • 00:54:06.190 --> 00:54:09.130
  • THEN YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE NEXT
  • 00:54:09.130 --> 00:54:10.050
  • GENERATION.
  • 00:54:10.050 --> 00:54:10.170
  • AND THAT'S WHERE WE LOST THE
  • 00:54:10.170 --> 00:54:11.130
  • NEXT GENERATION WAS,
  • 00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:12.260
  • I THINK, PASTORS AND THE
  • 00:54:12.260 --> 00:54:13.250
  • FIVEFOLD.
  • 00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:15.100
  • AND WE ALL LOVE GOD.
  • 00:54:15.100 --> 00:54:16.030
  • WE JUST...TOOK OVER THE
  • 00:54:16.030 --> 00:54:16.290
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:54:16.290 --> 00:54:19.090
  • 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST SHEEP.
  • 00:54:19.090 --> 00:54:20.030
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:21.060
  • [BLEATS]
  • 00:54:21.060 --> 00:54:22.090
  • I MEAN, THEY JUST FOLLOW
  • 00:54:22.090 --> 00:54:23.130
  • SOMEBODY.
  • 00:54:23.130 --> 00:54:24.170
  • SO, THE POOR DUMB SHEEP DON'T
  • 00:54:24.170 --> 00:54:26.020
  • REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:54:26.020 --> 00:54:27.130
  • SO, AS A PASTOR, I GOTTA LOOK
  • 00:54:27.130 --> 00:54:28.130
  • AFTER THEM.
  • 00:54:28.130 --> 00:54:29.140
  • THAT'S RIDICULOUS!
  • 00:54:29.140 --> 00:54:31.020
  • IT DOESN'T SAY-- IT SAYS THAT
  • 00:54:31.020 --> 00:54:32.170
  • WHEN WE GIVE OUR LIVES TO
  • 00:54:32.170 --> 00:54:33.120
  • JESUS CHRIST THAT HE'S GONNA
  • 00:54:33.120 --> 00:54:34.290
  • GUIDE US, HE'S GONNA LEAD US,
  • 00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:38.070
  • WE'RE THE SONS!
  • 00:54:38.070 --> 00:54:38.210
  • IT DOESN'T SAY THAT HE'S GONNA
  • 00:54:38.210 --> 00:54:39.130
  • RAISE PASTORS UP.
  • 00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:40.070
  • IT SAYS EVERY BELIVER--
  • 00:54:40.070 --> 00:54:42.150
  • THESE SIGNS ARE GONNA FOLLOW
  • 00:54:42.150 --> 00:54:43.060
  • THOSE WHO BELIEVE!
  • 00:54:43.060 --> 00:54:43.210
  • IT'S BELIEVERS!
  • 00:54:43.210 --> 00:54:44.130
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 00:54:44.130 --> 00:54:46.120
  • - LEON: WE ARE SHARP, WE'RE
  • 00:54:46.120 --> 00:54:47.020
  • LED BY THE SPIRIT.
  • 00:54:47.020 --> 00:54:47.170
  • WE KNOW.
  • 00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:47.290
  • WE'VE GOT WISDOM.
  • 00:54:47.290 --> 00:54:48.180
  • IT CRIES ALOUD IN THE STREETS!
  • 00:54:48.180 --> 00:54:49.230
  • IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE FIVEFOLD
  • 00:54:49.230 --> 00:54:50.140
  • MINISTRY.
  • 00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:51.090
  • WE OUGHT TO RAISE UP
  • 00:54:51.090 --> 00:54:53.230
  • PHENOMENAL, INCREDIBLE PEOPLE
  • 00:54:53.230 --> 00:54:54.140
  • AND BELIEVE THAT ABOUT THEM
  • 00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:57.170
  • THEN THEY BELIEVE THAT ABOUT
  • 00:54:57.170 --> 00:54:58.080
  • THEM.
  • 00:54:58.080 --> 00:54:58.190
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:54:58.190 --> 00:54:59.030
  • - LEON: AND THEY RISE UP.
  • 00:54:59.030 --> 00:54:59.280
  • WE KNOW THAT AS A KID YOU
  • 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:00.190
  • LOOK TO YOUR PARENTS FOR YOUR
  • 00:55:00.190 --> 00:55:01.120
  • IDENTITY AND WHAT YOU CAN
  • 00:55:01.120 --> 00:55:02.060
  • AND CAN'T DO.
  • 00:55:02.060 --> 00:55:04.190
  • THEN WHEN YOU HIT 12, YOU LOOK
  • 00:55:04.190 --> 00:55:06.010
  • TO YOUR FRIENDS AND SOMEBODY
  • 00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:06.280
  • ELSE.
  • 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:07.160
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:55:07.160 --> 00:55:08.030
  • - LEON: YOU LOOK TO A COACH.
  • 00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:09.140
  • YOU LOOK TO A PASTOR, A LEADER.
  • 00:55:09.140 --> 00:55:10.220
  • SO, IF ALL OF US AS LEADERS
  • 00:55:10.220 --> 00:55:13.020
  • HAVE A DEFEATED CHURCH, IF
  • 00:55:13.020 --> 00:55:14.140
  • YOU'RE JUST A SHEEP...
  • 00:55:14.140 --> 00:55:16.150
  • [BLEATS]
  • 00:55:16.150 --> 00:55:17.130
  • GOD BLESS YOU, HAVE BABIES, AND
  • 00:55:17.130 --> 00:55:18.120
  • GET A JOB, AND, WE'LL DO THE
  • 00:55:18.120 --> 00:55:19.230
  • WORK OF THE MINISTRY.
  • 00:55:19.230 --> 00:55:20.180
  • WE'RE THE EXPERTS.
  • 00:55:20.180 --> 00:55:21.070
  • YOU'RE THE ROOKIES.
  • 00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:23.190
  • YOU KNOW: WE'RE THE CLERGY --
  • 00:55:23.190 --> 00:55:24.100
  • LAITY.
  • 00:55:24.100 --> 00:55:25.050
  • UNTIL WE START TAKING SOME OF
  • 00:55:25.050 --> 00:55:25.260
  • THESE THINGS APART, I DON'T
  • 00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:26.170
  • THINK WE REALIZE HOW MUCH THEY
  • 00:55:26.170 --> 00:55:28.050
  • HAVE DEMORALIZED THE EMERGING
  • 00:55:28.050 --> 00:55:29.060
  • GENERATIONS.
  • 00:55:29.060 --> 00:55:30.250
  • 'CAUSE THIS EMERGING
  • 00:55:30.250 --> 00:55:31.240
  • GENERATION?
  • 00:55:31.240 --> 00:55:32.260
  • THEY'RE TACTILE.
  • 00:55:32.260 --> 00:55:34.010
  • THEY WANNA PRAY FOR PEOPLE.
  • 00:55:34.010 --> 00:55:35.020
  • THEY WANNA GET INVOLVED IN THE
  • 00:55:35.020 --> 00:55:36.030
  • CONVERSATION NOT BE PREACHED
  • 00:55:36.030 --> 00:55:36.260
  • AT.
  • 00:55:37.110 --> 00:55:40.110
  • THEY WANNA GO TRY IT AND "SHOW
  • 00:55:40.110 --> 00:55:41.030
  • ME HOW."
  • 00:55:41.030 --> 00:55:41.130
  • IT'S THE MOST EXCITING
  • 00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:42.010
  • GENERATION WE'VE EVER SEEN!
  • 00:55:42.010 --> 00:55:42.210
  • BUT MOST CHURCHES CAN'T EVEN
  • 00:55:42.210 --> 00:55:43.110
  • TOUCH THEM.
  • 00:55:43.110 --> 00:55:44.100
  • 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA SIT
  • 00:55:44.100 --> 00:55:45.000
  • WHILE YOU GO PLAY THE GAME.
  • 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:45.270
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:55:45.270 --> 00:55:46.290
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 00:55:46.290 --> 00:55:47.140
  • - LEON: THEY WANNA BE
  • 00:55:47.140 --> 00:55:48.110
  • INVOLVED.
  • 00:55:48.110 --> 00:55:48.280
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.210
  • - MATT: SIT BY, YOU GO PLAY
  • 00:55:50.210 --> 00:55:51.110
  • THE GAME, WHILE YOU GO PLAY THE
  • 00:55:51.110 --> 00:55:52.180
  • GAME IS AN ANALOGY YOU WERE
  • 00:55:52.180 --> 00:55:53.080
  • USING EARLIER.
  • 00:55:53.080 --> 00:55:55.270
  • WHO WOULD WANNA BE ON A
  • 00:55:55.270 --> 00:55:56.150
  • FOOTBALL TEAM IF ONLY THE
  • 00:55:56.150 --> 00:55:57.250
  • COUCHES WENT OUT ONTO THE FIELD
  • 00:55:57.250 --> 00:55:59.040
  • AND PLAYED IT?
  • 00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:00.180
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:56:00.180 --> 00:56:01.090
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:02.080
  • - MATT: AND THAT WE AS, YOU
  • 00:56:02.080 --> 00:56:04.090
  • KNOW, THE PLAYERS NEVER GOT
  • 00:56:04.090 --> 00:56:06.010
  • INTO THE GAME BECAUSE THE COACH
  • 00:56:06.010 --> 00:56:07.180
  • WAS THROWING TO THE OTHER
  • 00:56:07.180 --> 00:56:10.000
  • COACH.
  • 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:11.210
  • AND THE RUNNING BACK WAS, YOU
  • 00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:12.230
  • KNOW--
  • 00:56:12.230 --> 00:56:14.090
  • ALL THE COACHES TOOK THE FIELD
  • 00:56:14.090 --> 00:56:16.120
  • AND WE AS PLAYERS NEVER TOOK
  • 00:56:16.120 --> 00:56:17.140
  • THE FIELD.
  • 00:56:17.140 --> 00:56:18.090
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:19.130
  • - MATT: THAT'S JUST A WEIRD
  • 00:56:19.130 --> 00:56:20.030
  • ANALOGY.
  • 00:56:20.030 --> 00:56:20.210
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:56:20.210 --> 00:56:21.110
  • - MATT: BUT IN ONE SENSE,
  • 00:56:21.110 --> 00:56:22.060
  • THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S
  • 00:56:22.060 --> 00:56:22.290
  • HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IN THE
  • 00:56:22.290 --> 00:56:24.110
  • CHURCH.
  • 00:56:24.110 --> 00:56:27.000
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:28.040
  • - MATT: THAT'S NOT WHAT
  • 00:56:28.040 --> 00:56:30.010
  • HAPPENS IN THE MILITARY.
  • 00:56:30.010 --> 00:56:30.280
  • [LEON CHUCKLES]
  • 00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:31.140
  • - LEON: NOPE.
  • 00:56:31.140 --> 00:56:31.290
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:56:31.290 --> 00:56:33.000
  • - LEON: NOPE.
  • 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:33.280
  • - MATT: THE HIGHER UP IN RANK
  • 00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.010
  • YOU GO, THE FURTHER AFIELD FROM
  • 00:56:35.010 --> 00:56:36.210
  • THE ACTUAL BATTLE YOU ARE.
  • 00:56:36.210 --> 00:56:38.200
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 00:56:38.200 --> 00:56:39.050
  • - MATT: AND THE IDEA THAT THE
  • 00:56:39.050 --> 00:56:41.050
  • CHURCH HAS NEVER GOTTEN THAT
  • 00:56:41.090 --> 00:56:44.090
  • RIGHT, THAT WE JUST ARE SIMPLY
  • 00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:47.260
  • TO GO INTO CHURCH, SIT THERE
  • 00:56:47.260 --> 00:56:49.000
  • AND LISTEN AND NOT BE EQUIPPED
  • 00:56:49.120 --> 00:56:52.120
  • IS REALLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE
  • 00:56:52.120 --> 00:56:54.130
  • CHURCH AND WE'RE TRYIN' TO FIX
  • 00:56:54.130 --> 00:56:55.060
  • - LEON: YEAH, AND WE DON'T
  • 00:56:57.210 --> 00:56:58.110
  • HAND-- I MEAN, WHEN SOMEONE GOES
  • 00:56:58.110 --> 00:56:59.150
  • IN THE MILITARY, WE DON'T HAND
  • 00:56:59.150 --> 00:57:00.160
  • THEM AN ABRAMS TANK THE FIRST
  • 00:57:00.160 --> 00:57:01.120
  • DAY.
  • 00:57:01.120 --> 00:57:03.060
  • IN FACT, I DON'T THINK WE EVEN
  • 00:57:03.060 --> 00:57:04.060
  • REALLY GET A REAL GUN.
  • 00:57:04.060 --> 00:57:05.050
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:57:05.050 --> 00:57:06.060
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:57:06.060 --> 00:57:07.120
  • YOU START THEM--
  • 00:57:07.120 --> 00:57:08.200
  • AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I DO WITH
  • 00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:09.110
  • MY CONGREGATION.
  • 00:57:09.110 --> 00:57:10.150
  • AND WHEN I'M TEACHIN', I'LL GO:
  • 00:57:10.150 --> 00:57:12.100
  • OKAY, WHEN YOU LEARN TO LISTEN
  • 00:57:12.100 --> 00:57:13.090
  • TO HOLY SPIRIT, THIS IS WHAT IT
  • 00:57:13.090 --> 00:57:14.010
  • I SHARE ONE STORY ABOUT A
  • 00:57:16.210 --> 00:57:18.150
  • DELIVERY GUY THAT CAME TO MY
  • 00:57:18.150 --> 00:57:20.030
  • DOOR.
  • 00:57:20.030 --> 00:57:22.150
  • AND, AS I'M SIGNING FOR A
  • 00:57:22.150 --> 00:57:23.040
  • PACKAGE, I JUST FELT SOMETHING
  • 00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:23.260
  • RISE UP.
  • 00:57:23.260 --> 00:57:26.160
  • THIS WORD JUST KIND OF EXPLODED
  • 00:57:26.160 --> 00:57:27.160
  • INTO MY HEAD STRONG: SUICIDE.
  • 00:57:27.160 --> 00:57:29.020
  • SUICIDE.
  • 00:57:29.020 --> 00:57:31.080
  • AND-- AND SO, I JUST LOOKED AT
  • 00:57:31.080 --> 00:57:32.140
  • HIM.
  • 00:57:32.140 --> 00:57:33.060
  • AND, FINALLY, I MEAN-- IN MOST
  • 00:57:33.060 --> 00:57:35.100
  • PLACES, YOU'D HAVE TO EITHER
  • 00:57:35.100 --> 00:57:36.050
  • GIVE A TONGUES AND
  • 00:57:36.050 --> 00:57:37.050
  • INTERPRETATION OF, "THE LORD
  • 00:57:37.050 --> 00:57:38.230
  • HAS JUST SPOKEN TO ME ABOUT
  • 00:57:38.230 --> 00:57:39.130
  • YOU"--
  • 00:57:39.130 --> 00:57:39.250
  • YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S NOT
  • 00:57:39.250 --> 00:57:40.130
  • CONTEMPORARY OR COOL.
  • 00:57:40.130 --> 00:57:41.190
  • SO-- 'CAUSE WE GOT TWO THINGS
  • 00:57:41.190 --> 00:57:42.210
  • HAPPENING HERE.
  • 00:57:42.210 --> 00:57:43.060
  • SPIRITUALLY ALIVE BUT
  • 00:57:43.060 --> 00:57:44.120
  • CONTEMPORARY, RELEVANT, AND
  • 00:57:44.120 --> 00:57:45.110
  • COOL.
  • 00:57:45.110 --> 00:57:46.210
  • SO, I LOOKED AT THIS TOUGH
  • 00:57:46.210 --> 00:57:48.110
  • LOOKIN' BIKER-TYPE GUY.
  • 00:57:48.110 --> 00:57:49.160
  • AND I SAID -- AS I HANDED HIM
  • 00:57:49.160 --> 00:57:50.070
  • BACK HIS CLIPBOARD -- I SAID,
  • 00:57:50.070 --> 00:57:51.050
  • "MAN, DON'T DO IT."
  • 00:57:51.050 --> 00:57:53.040
  • HE SAID, "EXCUSE ME?"
  • 00:57:53.040 --> 00:57:54.200
  • AND I SAID, "DON'T DO IT.
  • 00:57:54.200 --> 00:57:57.060
  • DON'T-- DON'T-- DON'T KILL
  • 00:57:57.060 --> 00:57:57.250
  • YOURSELF."
  • 00:57:57.250 --> 00:57:59.170
  • AND HE SWORE A LITTLE BIT AND
  • 00:57:59.170 --> 00:58:00.100
  • THEN HE GOES, "HOW DID YOU KNOW
  • 00:58:00.100 --> 00:58:01.150
  • THAT?"
  • 00:58:01.150 --> 00:58:04.140
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:58:04.140 --> 00:58:05.120
  • - LEON: AND, RIGHT AWAY, I
  • 00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:06.070
  • COULD HAVE GONE, "THE LORD
  • 00:58:06.070 --> 00:58:07.240
  • SPEAKS TO ME, AND"--
  • 00:58:07.240 --> 00:58:08.160
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:58:08.160 --> 00:58:09.020
  • BUT INSTEAD, I SAID, "WELL,"
  • 00:58:09.020 --> 00:58:10.000
  • YOU KNOW, "SO IT'S TRUE?"
  • 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:10.200
  • HE SAYS, "MAN, I WAS
  • 00:58:10.200 --> 00:58:11.180
  • GONNA-- THIS WAS MY LAST CALL.
  • 00:58:11.180 --> 00:58:12.220
  • I WAS OFFIN' MYSELF, RIGHT
  • 00:58:12.220 --> 00:58:13.130
  • AFTER THIS."
  • 00:58:13.130 --> 00:58:15.060
  • - LAURIE: MMH.
  • 00:58:15.060 --> 00:58:15.290
  • - LEON: SEE, THAT'S HOLY
  • 00:58:15.290 --> 00:58:16.180
  • SPIRIT SHOWIN' IT TO ME.
  • 00:58:16.180 --> 00:58:17.170
  • BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANGELS WALKING
  • 00:58:17.170 --> 00:58:19.230
  • UP AND DOWN LADDERS.
  • 00:58:19.230 --> 00:58:20.260
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 00:58:20.260 --> 00:58:21.100
  • - LEON: I DIDN'T HAVE A BIG
  • 00:58:21.100 --> 00:58:22.050
  • OL' VISION.
  • 00:58:22.050 --> 00:58:22.240
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:58:22.240 --> 00:58:24.200
  • THE LORD HAVIN' A BIG OL' VOICE
  • 00:58:24.200 --> 00:58:25.120
  • THAT: (DEEPENS VOICE) HE'S
  • 00:58:25.120 --> 00:58:26.020
  • GOING TO KILL HIMSELF.
  • 00:58:26.020 --> 00:58:27.000
  • ALL I GOT WAS ONE LITTLE
  • 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:27.190
  • WORD THAT JUST CAME UP:
  • 00:58:27.190 --> 00:58:28.110
  • SUICIDE.
  • 00:58:28.110 --> 00:58:29.070
  • AND AS I STEPPED OUT IN FAITH
  • 00:58:29.070 --> 00:58:30.230
  • ON IT, AND JUST--
  • 00:58:30.230 --> 00:58:32.270
  • AND WHEN I SAID, "DON'T DO IT,"
  • 00:58:32.270 --> 00:58:33.200
  • IF I WAS WRONG, AND--
  • 00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:34.150
  • IF I WAS WRONG AND HE SAID,
  • 00:58:35.180 --> 00:58:38.180
  • "WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT?"--
  • 00:58:38.180 --> 00:58:39.280
  • I SAID, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA KILL
  • 00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:40.200
  • YOURSELF, ARE YOU?" AND HE
  • 00:58:40.200 --> 00:58:42.220
  • GOES, "NO, MAN -- WHATEVER GAVE
  • 00:58:42.220 --> 00:58:43.200
  • YOU THAT IDEA?!" I WOULD HAVE
  • 00:58:43.200 --> 00:58:44.110
  • GONE, "AW, MAN, I'M SORRY,
  • 00:58:44.110 --> 00:58:45.040
  • SOMETIMES I'M LIKE THIS A
  • 00:58:45.040 --> 00:58:45.240
  • LITTLE."
  • 00:58:45.240 --> 00:58:46.100
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 00:58:46.100 --> 00:58:46.280
  • YOU KNOW, I COULDA BACKED OUT
  • 00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:47.200
  • OF THAT EASY.
  • 00:58:47.200 --> 00:58:48.160
  • THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO LEARN TO
  • 00:58:48.160 --> 00:58:50.160
  • MINISTER TO PEOPLE WHERE WE'RE
  • 00:58:50.160 --> 00:58:51.110
  • AT.
  • 00:58:51.110 --> 00:58:52.250
  • IF YOU WALK INTO A ROOM--
  • 00:58:52.250 --> 00:58:53.210
  • I'LL TELL OUR CHURCH THIS:
  • 00:58:53.210 --> 00:58:55.110
  • I WALK INTO PLACES OFTEN AND
  • 00:58:55.110 --> 00:58:57.040
  • SOMEONE STANDS OUT TO ME.
  • 00:58:57.040 --> 00:58:58.230
  • AND I KNOW BEFORE THIS EVENT IS
  • 00:58:58.230 --> 00:59:00.100
  • OVER, BEFORE THIS NIGHT IS DONE
  • 00:59:00.100 --> 00:59:02.070
  • THAT PERSON I WILL BE TALKING
  • 00:59:02.070 --> 00:59:03.020
  • TO.
  • 00:59:03.030 --> 00:59:06.030
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:07.160
  • - LEON: NOW, I DON'T GO, AS I
  • 00:59:07.160 --> 00:59:08.070
  • WALK INTO A ROOM: AHEM!
  • 00:59:08.070 --> 00:59:08.270
  • YOU -- THUS SAITH THE LORD UNTO
  • 00:59:08.270 --> 00:59:10.030
  • THEE I AM GONNA SPEAK WITH
  • 00:59:10.030 --> 00:59:11.170
  • THEE!
  • 00:59:11.170 --> 00:59:12.100
  • COME ON OVER HERE!
  • 00:59:12.100 --> 00:59:12.270
  • I HAVE A WORD FROM GOD!
  • 00:59:12.270 --> 00:59:13.210
  • NO.
  • 00:59:13.210 --> 00:59:14.150
  • FOR ME, AS A REGULAR PERSON, IF
  • 00:59:14.220 --> 00:59:17.220
  • I'M AT A PARTY WITH FRIENDS OR
  • 00:59:17.220 --> 00:59:18.290
  • IF I'M SOMEWHERE, I'LL JUST
  • 00:59:18.290 --> 00:59:19.290
  • MAKE MY WAY.
  • 00:59:19.290 --> 00:59:21.180
  • AND AT SOME POINT, I'LL SENSE A
  • 00:59:21.180 --> 00:59:22.280
  • GOOD CHANCE TO GRAB A COKE WITH
  • 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:24.230
  • THE SAME GUY AND WE START
  • 00:59:24.230 --> 00:59:26.050
  • TALKIN' OVER IT, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:59:26.050 --> 00:59:27.010
  • PUNCH TABLE.
  • 00:59:27.010 --> 00:59:28.160
  • AND, AS I'M LISTENING TO HIM,
  • 00:59:28.160 --> 00:59:30.250
  • THIS ENGAGEMENT...
  • 00:59:30.250 --> 00:59:32.010
  • [MAKES SOUND EFFECT]
  • 00:59:32.010 --> 00:59:32.240
  • ...HOLY SPIRIT HOOKS UP.
  • 00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:33.150
  • 'CAUSE THE SECOND YOU SENSE
  • 00:59:33.150 --> 00:59:35.030
  • SOMETHING, HOLY SPIRIT'S DOING
  • 00:59:35.030 --> 00:59:36.030
  • SOMETHING.
  • 00:59:36.030 --> 00:59:37.190
  • THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY MEANS.
  • 00:59:37.190 --> 00:59:38.100
  • AND IF HE'S DOIN' SOMETHING,
  • 00:59:38.100 --> 00:59:39.150
  • YOU GET TO BE A PART OF IT!
  • 00:59:39.150 --> 00:59:40.290
  • - LAURIE: MMH...
  • 00:59:40.290 --> 00:59:42.000
  • - LEON: AND SO, I'LL JUST
  • 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:42.230
  • START TALKIN'.
  • 00:59:42.230 --> 00:59:43.160
  • WE MIGHT BE LAUGHING AND
  • 00:59:43.160 --> 00:59:44.090
  • TALKIN' ABOUT HOCKEY AND
  • 00:59:44.090 --> 00:59:45.050
  • FOOTBALL.
  • 00:59:45.050 --> 00:59:46.180
  • AND AT SOME POINT, AS I LISTEN
  • 00:59:46.180 --> 00:59:47.260
  • TO HIM AND JUST ENJOY HIM, I'LL
  • 00:59:47.260 --> 00:59:49.060
  • SENSE WHERE TO GO.
  • 00:59:49.060 --> 00:59:51.220
  • AND I'LL JUST START TALKING IN
  • 00:59:51.220 --> 00:59:53.040
  • THAT AREA.
  • 00:59:53.040 --> 00:59:53.260
  • OR I'LL TAKE HIM OUT.
  • 00:59:53.260 --> 00:59:54.160
  • SO, WHEN PEOPLE REALIZE THAT TO
  • 00:59:54.160 --> 00:59:55.260
  • HEAR HOLY SPIRIT, TO SENSE HOLY
  • 00:59:55.260 --> 00:59:58.250
  • SPIRIT STARTS RIGHT THERE,
  • 00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:00.230
  • PEOPLE WILL TELL ME ALL THE
  • 01:00:00.230 --> 01:00:01.130
  • TIME: OH, MAN, THAT ALWAYS
  • 01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:02.020
  • HAPPENS TO ME!
  • 01:00:02.020 --> 01:00:03.120
  • I'LL WALK INTO A ROOM AND
  • 01:00:03.120 --> 01:00:04.210
  • SOMEONE ALWAYS STANDS OUT TO
  • 01:00:04.210 --> 01:00:05.140
  • ME.
  • 01:00:05.140 --> 01:00:06.040
  • OKAY, MAYBE JUST START TRYING
  • 01:00:06.040 --> 01:00:07.160
  • TO TALK WITH THEM, SEE WHERE
  • 01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:08.200
  • GOD TAKES YOU.
  • 01:00:08.200 --> 01:00:09.200
  • - LAURIE: MMH...MMH...
  • 01:00:09.200 --> 01:00:10.180
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 01:00:10.180 --> 01:00:11.110
  • - LAURIE: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 01:00:11.110 --> 01:00:11.280
  • - MATT: WE'RE SITTING WITH
  • 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:12.200
  • LEON FONTAINE.
  • 01:00:12.200 --> 01:00:13.190
  • AND THE REASON HE SAID THAT IN
  • 01:00:13.190 --> 01:00:15.280
  • THE ANALOGY A MOMENT AGO ABOUT
  • 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.110
  • BEING AT A PARTY THAT HE WOULD
  • 01:00:17.110 --> 01:00:18.220
  • TALK ABOUT HOCKEY IS BECAUSE
  • 01:00:18.220 --> 01:00:19.240
  • HE'S FROM CANADA.
  • 01:00:19.240 --> 01:00:21.220
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 01:00:21.220 --> 01:00:22.130
  • OKAY?
  • 01:00:22.130 --> 01:00:23.200
  • - LAURIE: THEY PLAY HOCKEY
  • 01:00:23.200 --> 01:00:24.160
  • OVER HERE.
  • 01:00:24.160 --> 01:00:25.110
  • - MATT: AND, HOCKEY'S KIND OF
  • 01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:26.030
  • A BIG DEAL UP THERE.
  • 01:00:26.030 --> 01:00:27.050
  • SO, LEON FONTAINE AND THE
  • 01:00:27.050 --> 01:00:28.090
  • MIRACLE CHANNEL ARE HOW
  • 01:00:28.090 --> 01:00:31.070
  • CHRISTIAN TELEVISION REACHES
  • 01:00:31.070 --> 01:00:33.170
  • INTO 7 MILLION HOMES IN CANADA.
  • 01:00:33.170 --> 01:00:34.190
  • LEON AND THE MIRACLE CHANNEL
  • 01:00:34.190 --> 01:00:35.100
  • AND THE MIRACLE CHANNEL FAMILY
  • 01:00:37.130 --> 01:00:40.130
  • ARE ONE OF THE TRINITY FAMILY
  • 01:00:40.130 --> 01:00:42.030
  • OF NETWORKS.
  • 01:00:42.030 --> 01:00:43.290
  • LEON FONTAINE PASTORS SPRINGS
  • 01:00:43.290 --> 01:00:45.140
  • CHURCH.
  • 01:00:45.140 --> 01:00:46.120
  • - LAURIE: A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH.
  • 01:00:46.120 --> 01:00:47.110
  • - MATT: LAURIE AND I HAVE BEEN
  • 01:00:47.110 --> 01:00:48.130
  • TO ONE OF THE CAMPUSES THERE IN
  • 01:00:48.130 --> 01:00:49.160
  • CALGARY.
  • 01:00:49.160 --> 01:00:51.100
  • AND, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO
  • 01:00:51.100 --> 01:00:52.150
  • CALGARY AND THEN INTO BANFF,
  • 01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:54.050
  • DRIVEN FROM CALGARY TO BANFF,
  • 01:00:54.050 --> 01:00:56.070
  • DO THAT SOMETIME.
  • 01:00:56.070 --> 01:00:57.090
  • - LAURIE: IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
  • 01:00:57.090 --> 01:00:58.210
  • - MATT: IT'S-- IT'S STUNNING.
  • 01:00:58.210 --> 01:00:59.120
  • ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE MOST
  • 01:00:59.120 --> 01:01:00.050
  • LEON'S PROGRAM CALLED
  • 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.160
  • "SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY" AIRS
  • 01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:06.100
  • ON TBN'S-- ON TBN'S NETWORK,
  • 01:01:07.020 --> 01:01:10.020
  • MAIN NETWORK, FRIDAY AT 9:30,
  • 01:01:10.020 --> 01:01:11.090
  • PACIFIC TIME.
  • 01:01:11.090 --> 01:01:13.000
  • IF YOU'VE NEVER SEEN IT, WE'RE
  • 01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:14.160
  • GONNA GO TO ONE FINAL CLIP.
  • 01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:16.080
  • WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL HAVE A
  • 01:01:16.080 --> 01:01:17.010
  • MINISTRY TIME.
  • 01:01:17.010 --> 01:01:18.280
  • THIS IS LEON FONTAINE IN
  • 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:19.190
  • - LEON: THE ONLY POWER SATAN
  • 01:01:24.020 --> 01:01:25.070
  • HAS OVER A HUMAN BEING IS IN
  • 01:01:25.070 --> 01:01:26.230
  • THEIR SIN.
  • 01:01:26.230 --> 01:01:29.010
  • SO, WHEN YOU'RE FORGIVEN AND
  • 01:01:29.010 --> 01:01:30.000
  • WASHED CLEAN, AND YOU KNOW IT,
  • 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:30.260
  • HE HAS NO POWER.
  • 01:01:31.270 --> 01:01:34.270
  • BUT, LEON, EVEN WHEN YOU MAKE A
  • 01:01:34.270 --> 01:01:35.190
  • MISTAKE AND FALL?
  • 01:01:35.190 --> 01:01:38.020
  • NO.
  • 01:01:38.020 --> 01:01:39.220
  • THE CURSE THAT GOES WITH YOUR
  • 01:01:39.220 --> 01:01:40.130
  • FUTURE MISTAKES...HAS BEEN PAID
  • 01:01:40.130 --> 01:01:42.230
  • FOR.
  • 01:01:44.010 --> 01:01:47.010
  • ISAIAH 53 SAYS: WHO CAN BELIEVE
  • 01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:49.010
  • THIS?
  • 01:01:49.010 --> 01:01:51.160
  • WELL, LEON, PEOPLE ARE JUST
  • 01:01:51.160 --> 01:01:52.060
  • GONNA GO PRACTICE SIN.
  • 01:01:52.060 --> 01:01:54.100
  • NO, BECAUSE A JUDGE WON'T
  • 01:01:54.100 --> 01:01:54.290
  • FORGIVE YOU, THE POLICE WON'T
  • 01:01:54.290 --> 01:01:55.200
  • FORGIVE YOU, YOUR SPOUSE WON'T
  • 01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:56.120
  • FORGIVE YOU, YOUR BROTHER WON'T
  • 01:01:56.120 --> 01:01:57.040
  • FORGIVE YOU, YOUR PARENTS WON'T
  • 01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:57.260
  • FORGIVE YOU.
  • 01:01:57.260 --> 01:01:58.270
  • SIN DESTROYS YOUR LIFE.
  • 01:01:58.270 --> 01:01:59.250
  • STILL DOES.
  • 01:01:59.250 --> 01:02:02.160
  • BUT BETWEEN YOU AND GOD, HE'S
  • 01:02:02.160 --> 01:02:03.260
  • NOT SENDING A CURSE ONTO YOUR
  • 01:02:03.260 --> 01:02:06.000
  • LIFE BECAUSE JESUS TOOK THE
  • 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:06.210
  • CURSE.
  • 01:02:06.210 --> 01:02:08.280
  • GOD IS NOT THIS BIG DESPOT IN
  • 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.210
  • THE SKY WITH A BIG OL' WHIP,
  • 01:02:10.210 --> 01:02:12.120
  • GOIN': OH, ROW 14, SEVEN CHAIRS
  • 01:02:12.120 --> 01:02:13.200
  • OVER!
  • 01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:15.260
  • [MIMICS SOUND OF WHIP IN AIR]
  • 01:02:15.260 --> 01:02:16.170
  • SNAP!
  • 01:02:16.170 --> 01:02:17.190
  • GONNA GET YOU.
  • 01:02:17.190 --> 01:02:18.070
  • OR...
  • 01:02:18.070 --> 01:02:18.230
  • [MAKES SOUND OF GUN COCKING]
  • 01:02:18.230 --> 01:02:19.270
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 01:02:19.270 --> 01:02:21.080
  • JUST SIN...JUST MOVE ONE WRONG
  • 01:02:21.080 --> 01:02:22.160
  • WAY.
  • 01:02:22.160 --> 01:02:23.180
  • I JUST CAN'T WAIT.
  • 01:02:23.180 --> 01:02:24.150
  • I'M GON' GET YOU, SUCKA.
  • 01:02:24.150 --> 01:02:26.040
  • THAT'S NOT OUR GOD.
  • 01:02:26.040 --> 01:02:26.240
  • HE WANTS A RELATIONSHIP WITH
  • 01:02:26.240 --> 01:02:28.140
  • - MATT: WE ARE SITTING TODAY
  • 01:02:31.250 --> 01:02:32.190
  • WITH LEON FONTAINE.
  • 01:02:32.230 --> 01:02:35.230
  • LEON, WE GOT ABOUT 20 MINUTES
  • 01:02:35.230 --> 01:02:38.080
  • LEFT IN THE BROADCAST.
  • 01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:39.160
  • AND SO, LET'S START KIND OF
  • 01:02:41.140 --> 01:02:44.140
  • APPLYING A SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY
  • 01:02:44.210 --> 01:02:47.210
  • ATTITUDE AND MINDSET AND DO
  • 01:02:47.210 --> 01:02:49.210
  • WITH THE END OF THE PROGRAM
  • 01:02:50.200 --> 01:02:53.200
  • WHATEVER YOU SEE FIT, MINISTRY
  • 01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:55.230
  • TO PEOPLE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA
  • 01:02:55.230 --> 01:02:57.190
  • DO.
  • 01:02:57.190 --> 01:02:58.200
  • YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
  • 01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:01.240
  • SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
  • 01:03:01.240 --> 01:03:03.030
  • I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 01:03:03.030 --> 01:03:04.230
  • I HOPE WILL HELP PEOPLE IS THAT
  • 01:03:04.230 --> 01:03:05.150
  • THIS IS NOT A DOCTRINE THAT
  • 01:03:05.150 --> 01:03:06.230
  • I'VE SAT AND MEDITATED THROUGH
  • 01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:07.150
  • THE WORD ONLY.
  • 01:03:07.150 --> 01:03:08.280
  • BUT, THOSE SEVEN YEARS AS A
  • 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.130
  • PARAMEDIC, I BEGAN TO PRACTICE
  • 01:03:10.130 --> 01:03:11.040
  • I BEGAN TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I
  • 01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:16.070
  • FEEL LIKE THE ANOINTING IS
  • 01:03:16.070 --> 01:03:16.270
  • FALLING ON ME OR NOT, I WOULD
  • 01:03:16.270 --> 01:03:17.270
  • BEGIN TO JUST DO WHAT GOD'S
  • 01:03:17.270 --> 01:03:18.170
  • WORD SAYS AND LEARN TO SENSE
  • 01:03:18.170 --> 01:03:19.080
  • HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 01:03:19.090 --> 01:03:22.090
  • AND SO, MIRACLE AFTER MIRACLE
  • 01:03:22.090 --> 01:03:24.220
  • BEGAN TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFE.
  • 01:03:24.220 --> 01:03:26.250
  • AND, AS THEY BEGAN TO HAPPEN, I
  • 01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:28.190
  • BEGAN TO ALMOST PUT OFF ALL OF
  • 01:03:28.190 --> 01:03:31.020
  • THESE TEACHINGS THAT MADE
  • 01:03:31.020 --> 01:03:33.210
  • FLOWING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT SO
  • 01:03:33.210 --> 01:03:34.260
  • COMPLICATED AND SO HARD AND SO
  • 01:03:34.260 --> 01:03:36.000
  • IFFY AND MAYBE.
  • 01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.070
  • INSTEAD, I REALIZED HE WAS
  • 01:03:38.070 --> 01:03:39.210
  • ALWAYS THERE.
  • 01:03:39.210 --> 01:03:41.030
  • AND HE WAS ALWAYS READY TO FLOW
  • 01:03:41.030 --> 01:03:42.230
  • THROUGH ME.
  • 01:03:42.230 --> 01:03:45.100
  • AND, SO, I BEGAN TO SHARE WITH
  • 01:03:45.100 --> 01:03:47.050
  • PEOPLE THE MIRACLES THAT TOOK
  • 01:03:47.050 --> 01:03:48.280
  • PLACE.
  • 01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.150
  • I REMEMBER ONE TIME A LADY
  • 01:03:50.150 --> 01:03:51.130
  • COMING TO OUR CHURCH.
  • 01:03:51.130 --> 01:03:52.000
  • SHE CAME TO OUR CHURCH AND
  • 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:52.200
  • ASKED IF I'D PRAY FOR HER DAD,
  • 01:03:52.200 --> 01:03:53.150
  • WHO WAS DYING.
  • 01:03:53.150 --> 01:03:54.240
  • AND, I SAID, "OF COURSE, I
  • 01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:55.190
  • WILL."
  • 01:03:55.190 --> 01:03:56.270
  • "WELL," SHE GOES, "THE PROBLEM
  • 01:03:56.270 --> 01:03:58.170
  • IS MY FAMILY DOESN'T WANT YOU
  • 01:03:58.170 --> 01:03:59.280
  • TO PRAY FOR HIM."
  • 01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.260
  • AND I WENT: "WHAT?
  • 01:04:00.260 --> 01:04:01.140
  • THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE."
  • 01:04:01.140 --> 01:04:02.050
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:04:02.050 --> 01:04:02.290
  • SHE GOES: "WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE
  • 01:04:02.290 --> 01:04:03.210
  • BEEN PRETTY WEIRD.
  • 01:04:03.210 --> 01:04:05.050
  • WHEN I GOT SAVED, I WAS TOO
  • 01:04:05.050 --> 01:04:05.250
  • EXCITED AND I WAS PRETTY WEIRD
  • 01:04:05.250 --> 01:04:07.080
  • WITH THEM AND PREACHED AT THEM
  • 01:04:07.080 --> 01:04:08.040
  • AND JUDGED THEM AND...
  • 01:04:08.040 --> 01:04:10.050
  • AND SO, THEY WON'T COME TO
  • 01:04:10.050 --> 01:04:10.240
  • CHURCH."
  • 01:04:10.240 --> 01:04:11.210
  • AND I SAID, "WELL, I TELL YOU
  • 01:04:11.210 --> 01:04:12.120
  • WHAT -- I'LL GO WITH YOU TO THE
  • 01:04:12.120 --> 01:04:13.150
  • HOSPITAL AND THEN WE'LL JUST
  • 01:04:13.150 --> 01:04:15.010
  • SEE WHAT THEY DO."
  • 01:04:15.010 --> 01:04:15.200
  • AND SO, WE WENT TO WHERE HER
  • 01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:17.000
  • DAD WAS.
  • 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:17.280
  • AND, APPARENTLY, SHE TOLD ME --
  • 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:19.030
  • AND I FOUND THIS OUT TO BE TRUE
  • 01:04:19.030 --> 01:04:20.120
  • -- THAT HE HADN'T BEEN AWAKE
  • 01:04:20.120 --> 01:04:21.190
  • NOW FOR TWO WEEKS, HE'S IN A
  • 01:04:21.190 --> 01:04:22.180
  • DEATH COMA, THAT HE HADN'T
  • 01:04:22.180 --> 01:04:24.030
  • EATEN, HADN'T DRANK.
  • 01:04:24.030 --> 01:04:25.140
  • THEY WERE JUST WAITING FOR HIM
  • 01:04:25.140 --> 01:04:26.140
  • TO DIE.
  • 01:04:26.140 --> 01:04:27.050
  • CALLED ALL THE FAMILY IN.
  • 01:04:27.050 --> 01:04:28.250
  • AND SO, AS I WALKED UP TO HIS
  • 01:04:28.250 --> 01:04:29.270
  • ROOM, THE ELDEST BROTHER
  • 01:04:29.270 --> 01:04:31.160
  • STEPPED OUT AND HE SAW ME AND
  • 01:04:31.170 --> 01:04:34.170
  • RIGHT AWAY I COULD SENSE THE
  • 01:04:34.170 --> 01:04:35.270
  • COLDNESS ON HIM AND HIS TWO
  • 01:04:35.270 --> 01:04:36.170
  • SISTERS.
  • 01:04:36.170 --> 01:04:37.080
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:37.270
  • - LEON: JUST...
  • 01:04:37.270 --> 01:04:38.140
  • [INHALES DEEPLY]
  • 01:04:38.140 --> 01:04:39.020
  • ...THAT I WAS THERE.
  • 01:04:39.020 --> 01:04:39.290
  • I SAID: "I'M SO SORRY FOR BEING
  • 01:04:39.290 --> 01:04:40.210
  • HERE.
  • 01:04:40.210 --> 01:04:41.070
  • I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT ME HERE,
  • 01:04:41.070 --> 01:04:42.090
  • SO I'M GONNA LEAVE.
  • 01:04:42.090 --> 01:04:43.250
  • BUT I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST."
  • 01:04:43.250 --> 01:04:44.240
  • I SAID, "YOUR SISTER,
  • 01:04:44.240 --> 01:04:46.070
  • APPARENTLY, HAS REPRESENTED US,
  • 01:04:46.150 --> 01:04:49.150
  • THE CHURCH AND GOD, PRETTY
  • 01:04:49.150 --> 01:04:50.230
  • WEIRDLY."
  • 01:04:50.230 --> 01:04:51.140
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:51.280
  • AND HE GOES, "YEAH..."
  • 01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:52.210
  • [LAURIE GIGGLING]
  • 01:04:52.210 --> 01:04:53.100
  • AND I SAID: "BUT THIS IS HER
  • 01:04:53.100 --> 01:04:54.000
  • DAD, TOO.
  • 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:55.010
  • WOULD YOU MIND IF I JUST PRAYED
  • 01:04:55.010 --> 01:04:55.230
  • A 30-SECOND PRAYER?
  • 01:04:55.230 --> 01:04:57.060
  • IT'S A PRAYER OF BLESSING.
  • 01:04:57.060 --> 01:04:58.140
  • IT'S NOT THE LAST RITES.
  • 01:04:58.140 --> 01:04:59.230
  • AND THEN I'LL JUST LEAVE.
  • 01:04:59.230 --> 01:05:01.030
  • I DON'T MEAN TO ADD ANY MORE
  • 01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:03.170
  • PAIN TO YOUR FAMILY AND I'M SO
  • 01:05:03.170 --> 01:05:04.130
  • SORRY.
  • 01:05:04.130 --> 01:05:05.070
  • AND I WILL LEAVE IF YOU DON'T
  • 01:05:05.070 --> 01:05:05.280
  • WANT-- NOT A PROBLEM, YOU
  • 01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:07.130
  • GUYS."
  • 01:05:07.130 --> 01:05:08.110
  • I'M THAT GRACIOUS WITH HIM.
  • 01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:09.010
  • I'M HONORING HIM.
  • 01:05:09.010 --> 01:05:09.160
  • I'M NOT WALKING LIKE GOD'S MAN
  • 01:05:09.160 --> 01:05:11.120
  • OF POWER, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
  • 01:05:11.120 --> 01:05:12.100
  • HOUR.
  • 01:05:12.100 --> 01:05:13.070
  • - LAURIE: MM-HMM.
  • 01:05:13.070 --> 01:05:14.100
  • - LEON: AND HE JUST-- THE
  • 01:05:14.100 --> 01:05:15.110
  • WHOLE-- ALL THREE OF THEM JUST
  • 01:05:15.110 --> 01:05:16.030
  • KIND OF SETTLED DOWN, SAID:
  • 01:05:16.030 --> 01:05:16.290
  • "PASTOR, OF COURSE, YOU CAN.
  • 01:05:16.290 --> 01:05:17.290
  • I'M SORRY.
  • 01:05:17.290 --> 01:05:18.280
  • COME ON IN."
  • 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:19.290
  • SO, I WALKED UP TO THE MAN
  • 01:05:19.290 --> 01:05:21.060
  • LAYING ON THE BED.
  • 01:05:21.060 --> 01:05:23.040
  • HE WAS GRAY, HIS BREATHING WAS
  • 01:05:23.040 --> 01:05:23.250
  • NOT EVEN REGULAR.
  • 01:05:23.290 --> 01:05:26.290
  • YOU KNOW, GREY LIPS, WHITE
  • 01:05:26.290 --> 01:05:27.210
  • PASTY FACE.
  • 01:05:27.210 --> 01:05:28.270
  • HE'S GONNA DIE ANY TIME, I CAN
  • 01:05:28.270 --> 01:05:29.230
  • TELL.
  • 01:05:29.230 --> 01:05:31.220
  • AND, SO, I PUT MY HAND JUST ON
  • 01:05:31.220 --> 01:05:33.030
  • HIS LEG, AROUND WHERE HIS KNEE
  • 01:05:33.030 --> 01:05:34.190
  • WAS.
  • 01:05:34.190 --> 01:05:35.150
  • AND THIS IS HOW I PRAYED IT.
  • 01:05:35.150 --> 01:05:36.050
  • I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT
  • 01:05:36.050 --> 01:05:36.260
  • WORDS.
  • 01:05:36.260 --> 01:05:37.100
  • BUT I JUST SAID: "GOD, THIS
  • 01:05:37.100 --> 01:05:38.090
  • FAMILY IS HURTING RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:05:38.090 --> 01:05:39.220
  • PLEASE TOUCH THEM.
  • 01:05:39.220 --> 01:05:40.280
  • PLEASE BRING THEM TOGETHER
  • 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:42.100
  • CLOSER.
  • 01:05:42.100 --> 01:05:43.050
  • HEAL THEM.
  • 01:05:43.050 --> 01:05:44.080
  • I PRAY THAT YOU'D MAKE THIS
  • 01:05:44.080 --> 01:05:44.280
  • FAMILY--"
  • 01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.080
  • I PRAYED FOR THE FAMILY.
  • 01:05:47.120 --> 01:05:50.120
  • "AND THEN, FOR THIS MAN,
  • 01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:51.130
  • FATHER, LAYING HERE RIGHT
  • 01:05:51.130 --> 01:05:52.120
  • NOW, I ASK THAT YOU BLESS HIM,
  • 01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:53.040
  • TOUCH HIM, IN THE NAME OF
  • 01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:53.230
  • JESUS."
  • 01:05:53.230 --> 01:05:56.020
  • THAT'S ALL I SAID.
  • 01:05:56.020 --> 01:05:56.270
  • TOOK MY HAND OFF OF HIM, TURNED
  • 01:05:56.270 --> 01:05:57.230
  • AROUND.
  • 01:05:57.230 --> 01:05:59.050
  • AS I WALKED TOWARDS HIM, I
  • 01:05:59.050 --> 01:06:00.160
  • COULD SEE TEARS IN ONE OF THEIR
  • 01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:01.080
  • EYES.
  • 01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:01.280
  • IT WAS LIKE GOD-- THE PRESENCE
  • 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.040
  • OF GOD JUST TOUCHED THEM.
  • 01:06:03.040 --> 01:06:05.130
  • AND, AS I'M WALKING TOWARDS
  • 01:06:05.130 --> 01:06:06.180
  • 'EM, TO SEE IF I CAN GET
  • 01:06:06.180 --> 01:06:07.070
  • A FEW COMMENTS IN BEFORE I
  • 01:06:07.070 --> 01:06:08.250
  • LEAVE, THE MAN BEHIND ME, WHO
  • 01:06:08.250 --> 01:06:10.050
  • HASN'T BEEN AWAKE IN TWO WEEKS,
  • 01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:12.010
  • SITS UP IN BED, POINTS AT ME IN
  • 01:06:12.050 --> 01:06:15.050
  • FRONT OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
  • 01:06:15.050 --> 01:06:17.250
  • AND HE DIDN'T SAY IT REALLY
  • 01:06:17.250 --> 01:06:18.150
  • GOOD.
  • 01:06:18.150 --> 01:06:19.080
  • IT WAS KIND IF LIKE, "THIS IS
  • 01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:19.290
  • GOD'S MAN."
  • 01:06:19.290 --> 01:06:20.220
  • OR: "THIS IS A MAN FROM GOD,"
  • 01:06:20.220 --> 01:06:21.220
  • OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
  • 01:06:21.220 --> 01:06:24.150
  • "LISTEN TO HIM."
  • 01:06:24.150 --> 01:06:25.100
  • AND EVERYBODY FREAKED OUT!
  • 01:06:25.100 --> 01:06:26.230
  • THEY'RE RUNNING TO THE BED,
  • 01:06:26.230 --> 01:06:27.150
  • HUGGIN' HIM, AND TALKIN' TO
  • 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:28.100
  • HIM.
  • 01:06:28.100 --> 01:06:29.060
  • AND THEN, THEY WANTED, "WHAT
  • 01:06:29.060 --> 01:06:31.050
  • HAPPENED?" AND THEY WANTED TO
  • 01:06:31.050 --> 01:06:32.220
  • TALK TO ME.
  • 01:06:32.220 --> 01:06:33.080
  • AND FOR THE NEXT 45 MINUTES --
  • 01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:34.110
  • I FORGOT HOW MUCH MORE TIME --
  • 01:06:34.110 --> 01:06:35.040
  • WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE
  • 01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:36.000
  • GOODNESS OF GOD.
  • 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:36.190
  • - LAURIE: MM...
  • 01:06:36.190 --> 01:06:37.160
  • - LEON: AND HOW GOD LOVES
  • 01:06:37.160 --> 01:06:38.060
  • THEM.
  • 01:06:38.060 --> 01:06:39.030
  • THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF YOU DON'T
  • 01:06:39.270 --> 01:06:42.270
  • HAVE TO WALK IN THERE AND--
  • 01:06:42.270 --> 01:06:44.010
  • I DIDN'T SPEAK OUT FIVE VERSES.
  • 01:06:44.010 --> 01:06:45.200
  • I DIDN'T PROPHESY TO THE WIND
  • 01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:46.110
  • AND DECLARE: THIS MAN SHALL
  • 01:06:46.110 --> 01:06:47.010
  • LIVE AND NOT DIE -- STEP ASIDE!
  • 01:06:47.010 --> 01:06:48.080
  • I'M COMING--
  • 01:06:48.190 --> 01:06:51.190
  • I MEAN, I WALKED IN GRACIOUS,
  • 01:06:51.190 --> 01:06:52.190
  • HONORING.
  • 01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:53.010
  • I DIDN'T EVEN COMMAND HIM TO
  • 01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:53.210
  • RISE.
  • 01:06:53.210 --> 01:06:54.100
  • I'M NOT SAYING I WOULDN'T.
  • 01:06:54.100 --> 01:06:56.200
  • I'M JUST SAYING I DIDN'T.
  • 01:06:56.200 --> 01:06:57.130
  • SAID, "LORD BLESS HIM, IN THE
  • 01:06:57.130 --> 01:06:58.240
  • NAME OF JESUS."
  • 01:06:58.240 --> 01:06:59.220
  • AND THE PRESENCE OF GOD TOUCHED
  • 01:06:59.220 --> 01:07:01.080
  • THAT MAN, HEALED HIM.
  • 01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:02.110
  • I CAN SHARE MIRACLE AFTER
  • 01:07:02.110 --> 01:07:04.140
  • MIRACLE WHERE I WASN'T
  • 01:07:04.140 --> 01:07:05.080
  • HOLLYWOOD.
  • 01:07:06.250 --> 01:07:09.250
  • I DIDN'T AGGRANDIZE IT.
  • 01:07:09.250 --> 01:07:10.130
  • I WAS MORE SENSITIVE TO THEM,
  • 01:07:10.130 --> 01:07:11.070
  • MORE CARING ABOUT THE FAMILY.
  • 01:07:11.070 --> 01:07:12.030
  • AND I FOUND THAT WHEN I
  • 01:07:12.030 --> 01:07:13.040
  • FUNCTION LIKE THAT THAT HOLY
  • 01:07:13.040 --> 01:07:14.270
  • SPIRIT'S POWER DIDN'T GO DOWN
  • 01:07:14.270 --> 01:07:17.150
  • OR DIMINISH BUT IT ACTUALLY
  • 01:07:17.150 --> 01:07:18.280
  • ROSE AS HE SHOWED ME HOW TO
  • 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.250
  • PRAY AND TREAT PEOPLE IN A WAY
  • 01:07:20.250 --> 01:07:22.160
  • THAT OPENED THEIR HEARTS AND
  • 01:07:22.160 --> 01:07:24.290
  • THEN MIRACLES WOULD HAPPEN.
  • 01:07:24.290 --> 01:07:26.290
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING US
  • 01:07:26.290 --> 01:07:28.000
  • TODAY.
  • 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.190
  • AND, AS YOU HAVE LOOKED AT
  • 01:07:29.190 --> 01:07:31.020
  • HEALING OR LISTENED TO MANY
  • 01:07:31.020 --> 01:07:33.220
  • GREAT LEADERS TEACH ON IT THAT
  • 01:07:34.140 --> 01:07:37.140
  • YOU'VE ALMOST BUILT UP ALL
  • 01:07:37.140 --> 01:07:38.040
  • THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND
  • 01:07:38.040 --> 01:07:40.270
  • GUIDELINES AND...
  • 01:07:40.270 --> 01:07:43.020
  • AND IT JUST KINDA-- IT MAKES
  • 01:07:43.020 --> 01:07:43.270
  • YOU NOT EVEN BELIEVE ANYMORE.
  • 01:07:44.120 --> 01:07:47.120
  • BUT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT ALL OF
  • 01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:50.020
  • THE PROMISES ARE IN HIM --
  • 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.000
  • JESUS -- YES AND AMEN; THAT
  • 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.040
  • WHEN JESUS DIED, IN GALATIANS
  • 01:07:56.050 --> 01:07:59.050
  • 3:13, IT SAYS THERE HE SAYS--
  • 01:07:59.050 --> 01:08:00.140
  • IT SAYS THAT HE BECAME A CURSE
  • 01:08:00.140 --> 01:08:01.090
  • FOR US SO THE BLESSINGS OF
  • 01:08:01.090 --> 01:08:03.080
  • ABRAHAM COULD COME UPON US.
  • 01:08:03.080 --> 01:08:05.090
  • GOD WANTS TO TOUCH YOU AND HEAL
  • 01:08:05.090 --> 01:08:06.290
  • YOU.
  • 01:08:06.290 --> 01:08:08.160
  • AND I WANNA JUST SPEAK TO
  • 01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:09.050
  • MATURE CHRISTIANS FOR A MINUTE.
  • 01:08:09.050 --> 01:08:11.000
  • IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS THIS
  • 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:12.070
  • LACK OF ABILITY TO GET MATURE
  • 01:08:12.070 --> 01:08:13.290
  • CHRISTIANS HEALED.
  • 01:08:13.290 --> 01:08:15.200
  • IT'S EASIER ON THE STREETS AND
  • 01:08:15.200 --> 01:08:17.100
  • IN THE PLAINS OF AFRICA--
  • 01:08:17.100 --> 01:08:20.010
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:08:20.010 --> 01:08:21.040
  • - LEON: --WITH THE LOST TO GET
  • 01:08:21.040 --> 01:08:22.160
  • A MIRACLE THAN WITH GOD'S OWN
  • 01:08:22.160 --> 01:08:24.000
  • PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE
  • 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:24.260
  • HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH.
  • 01:08:24.260 --> 01:08:27.000
  • WE OUGHT TO BE MOVING IN THE
  • 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.070
  • MIRACULOUS.
  • 01:08:29.070 --> 01:08:30.090
  • YOU KNOW, EVEN JOHN THE BAPTIST
  • 01:08:30.090 --> 01:08:32.230
  • SENT A DISCIPLE.
  • 01:08:32.230 --> 01:08:33.190
  • HE WAS ABOUT TO BE BEHEADED.
  • 01:08:33.190 --> 01:08:35.000
  • HE WAS ABOUT TO DIE.
  • 01:08:35.170 --> 01:08:38.170
  • JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS AN
  • 01:08:38.170 --> 01:08:39.050
  • AMAZING, STUNNING MAN -- ONE OF
  • 01:08:39.050 --> 01:08:39.270
  • THE GREATEST MEN THAT EVER
  • 01:08:40.020 --> 01:08:43.020
  • WALKED THE PLANET JESUS SAID.
  • 01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:43.230
  • BUT IN A MOMENT OF GIVING HIS
  • 01:08:43.230 --> 01:08:44.140
  • LIFE, HE SAYS TO HIS DISCIPLES:
  • 01:08:44.140 --> 01:08:46.030
  • GO FIND OUT IF IT'S REALLY HIM.
  • 01:08:46.030 --> 01:08:48.270
  • THE DISCIPLE COMES TO JESUS AND
  • 01:08:48.270 --> 01:08:50.200
  • SAYS: YOU KNOW, JOHN WANTS TO
  • 01:08:50.200 --> 01:08:53.130
  • KNOW ARE YOU REALLY THE ONE?
  • 01:08:53.130 --> 01:08:55.270
  • AND YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS REFERS
  • 01:08:55.270 --> 01:08:57.180
  • TO TO HAVE HIM SEND BACK TO
  • 01:08:57.180 --> 01:08:59.090
  • JOHN AND SAY IS THE MIRACLES.
  • 01:08:59.090 --> 01:09:01.030
  • AND AS JESUS WAS DOING
  • 01:09:01.030 --> 01:09:02.090
  • MIRACLES, THIS DISCIPLE OF
  • 01:09:02.090 --> 01:09:03.200
  • JOHN'S SAW IT.
  • 01:09:03.260 --> 01:09:06.260
  • AND, HE SAID: GO BACK AND TELL
  • 01:09:06.260 --> 01:09:07.190
  • JOHN THESE MIRACLES THAT YOU
  • 01:09:08.030 --> 01:09:11.030
  • SAW.
  • 01:09:11.030 --> 01:09:11.220
  • I'M SORRY BUT NOWHERE IN THE
  • 01:09:11.220 --> 01:09:14.030
  • BIBLE HAVE MIRACLES ENDED.
  • 01:09:14.030 --> 01:09:16.040
  • I KNOW WE LIVE IN A REAL WORLD
  • 01:09:16.040 --> 01:09:17.150
  • WHERE THERE'S A KINGDOM OF
  • 01:09:17.150 --> 01:09:18.200
  • DARKNESS AND THE KINGDOM OF
  • 01:09:18.200 --> 01:09:19.230
  • LIGHT AND WE'RE ALL LIVING IN
  • 01:09:19.230 --> 01:09:20.140
  • THE SAME PLANET.
  • 01:09:20.140 --> 01:09:21.160
  • [CLAPS HANDS]
  • 01:09:21.160 --> 01:09:22.160
  • AND SO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE STUFF
  • 01:09:22.160 --> 01:09:23.180
  • AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE BATTLES.
  • 01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:24.190
  • BUT WE DON'T REALLY LOSE 'CAUSE
  • 01:09:24.190 --> 01:09:25.110
  • HEAVEN'S REAL.
  • 01:09:25.110 --> 01:09:26.100
  • BUT DON'T EVER BACK AWAY FROM
  • 01:09:26.100 --> 01:09:27.250
  • MIRACLES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
  • 01:09:27.250 --> 01:09:29.290
  • EXPLAIN WHY YOU'VE HAD LOSSES.
  • 01:09:32.100 --> 01:09:35.100
  • I'VE HAD LOVED ONES IN
  • 01:09:35.100 --> 01:09:35.280
  • MY FAMILY DIE EARLY AND GO TO
  • 01:09:35.280 --> 01:09:36.190
  • HEAVEN.
  • 01:09:36.190 --> 01:09:37.020
  • THERE'S THINGS I'VE PRAYED
  • 01:09:37.020 --> 01:09:38.070
  • ABOUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
  • 01:09:38.070 --> 01:09:38.260
  • BUT IT HASN'T MADE ME BEGIN TO
  • 01:09:38.260 --> 01:09:40.000
  • QUESTION GOD.
  • 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.250
  • I'LL NEVER TRADE WHAT I KNOW
  • 01:09:42.250 --> 01:09:44.080
  • FOR WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
  • 01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:46.230
  • - MATT: WOW...
  • 01:09:46.230 --> 01:09:48.140
  • - LEON: WHAT I DON'T KNOW
  • 01:09:48.140 --> 01:09:49.120
  • ABOUT WHY THIS PERSON DIED
  • 01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:51.050
  • YOUNGER AND WHY IT DIDN'T
  • 01:09:51.050 --> 01:09:52.060
  • CHANGE THIS.
  • 01:09:52.060 --> 01:09:53.080
  • I'LL ASK GOD WHEN I GET TO
  • 01:09:53.080 --> 01:09:54.190
  • HEAVEN.
  • 01:09:54.190 --> 01:09:55.070
  • BUT I'M NOT TRADING WHAT I KNOW
  • 01:09:55.070 --> 01:09:56.160
  • FOR WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
  • 01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:03.280
  • AND SO, AS YOU'RE
  • 01:10:03.280 --> 01:10:04.290
  • LISTENING TO THIS, I BELIEVE
  • 01:10:04.290 --> 01:10:05.200
  • THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THIS
  • 01:10:05.200 --> 01:10:06.120
  • MASSIVE, MASSIVE RESURGENCE OF
  • 01:10:06.120 --> 01:10:07.040
  • THE MIRACULOUS IN PEOPLE'S
  • 01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:07.250
  • LIVES.
  • 01:10:07.250 --> 01:10:09.060
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 01:10:09.060 --> 01:10:10.130
  • - LEON: BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE
  • 01:10:10.130 --> 01:10:11.270
  • AMONGST JUST US PASTORS, AND
  • 01:10:11.270 --> 01:10:12.220
  • PROPHETS, AND LEADERS, AND...
  • 01:10:12.220 --> 01:10:14.260
  • IT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE AS PEOPLE
  • 01:10:14.260 --> 01:10:16.170
  • JUST BEGIN TO LISTEN TO
  • 01:10:16.170 --> 01:10:17.050
  • TEACHING LIKE THIS.
  • 01:10:17.050 --> 01:10:19.180
  • AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO LISTEN
  • 01:10:19.180 --> 01:10:20.250
  • TO IT.
  • 01:10:20.250 --> 01:10:22.100
  • BECAUSE THE SEED GETS PLANTED
  • 01:10:22.100 --> 01:10:23.250
  • OF THIS NEW TEACHING.
  • 01:10:23.250 --> 01:10:25.020
  • IT'S NOT NEW.
  • 01:10:25.020 --> 01:10:25.250
  • IT'S THE BIBLE!
  • 01:10:25.250 --> 01:10:27.000
  • BUT IT'LL BEGIN TO TAKE ROOT.
  • 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:27.220
  • AND THEN YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF
  • 01:10:27.220 --> 01:10:29.010
  • SENSING THINGS.
  • 01:10:29.010 --> 01:10:30.090
  • AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN IT
  • 01:10:30.090 --> 01:10:31.110
  • COMES TO PRAYER...
  • 01:10:31.110 --> 01:10:32.130
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS READING A
  • 01:10:32.130 --> 01:10:33.180
  • SCRIPTURE IN COLOSSIANS.
  • 01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:35.080
  • AND, IN EPHESIANS IT SAYS, AS
  • 01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:36.250
  • WELL, "BE STRONG IN THE LORD
  • 01:10:36.250 --> 01:10:39.040
  • AND IN THE POWER OF HIS MIGHT."
  • 01:10:39.040 --> 01:10:40.120
  • - MATT: GOOD.
  • 01:10:40.120 --> 01:10:42.000
  • - LEON: IT SAYS: PUT ON THE
  • 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.210
  • ARMOR OF GOD THAT WE COULD
  • 01:10:42.210 --> 01:10:44.200
  • STAND AGAINST THE STRATEGIES
  • 01:10:44.200 --> 01:10:45.180
  • OF--
  • 01:10:45.180 --> 01:10:46.120
  • IT DOESN'T SAY PRAY AGAINST THE
  • 01:10:46.120 --> 01:10:47.160
  • DEVIL.
  • 01:10:48.030 --> 01:10:51.030
  • IT ACTUALLY SAYS PUT ON THE
  • 01:10:51.030 --> 01:10:51.230
  • ARMOR.
  • 01:10:51.230 --> 01:10:52.240
  • NOW, EACH ARMOR IS JUST WHAT
  • 01:10:52.240 --> 01:10:53.140
  • YOU BELIEVE.
  • 01:10:53.140 --> 01:10:55.280
  • ANYWHERE WHERE YOU KNOW
  • 01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:57.130
  • WHAT THE WILL OF GOD IS,
  • 01:10:57.130 --> 01:10:59.280
  • SATAN HAS NOW LOST HIS ABILITY
  • 01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:00.250
  • TO HURT YOU IN THAT AREA.
  • 01:11:00.250 --> 01:11:02.050
  • THEREFORE, THE WORD IS
  • 01:11:02.050 --> 01:11:02.280
  • BEAUTIFUL.
  • 01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:04.090
  • GOD'S WORD IS PRECIOUS.
  • 01:11:04.090 --> 01:11:05.120
  • FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED FROM THE
  • 01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:06.160
  • CROSS TO THE THRONE.
  • 01:11:06.160 --> 01:11:09.060
  • WHAT HAPPENED WHEN JESUS DIED
  • 01:11:09.060 --> 01:11:10.160
  • ON THE CROSS, PAID FOR THE
  • 01:11:10.160 --> 01:11:12.010
  • CURSE, TOOK THE CURSE OF THE
  • 01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:13.280
  • LAW SO THAT YOU'RE FREE?
  • 01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:14.180
  • AS YOU BEGIN TO, AGAIN, AS
  • 01:11:14.180 --> 01:11:15.230
  • NEVER BEFORE, ENJOY GOD'S WORD,
  • 01:11:15.230 --> 01:11:17.080
  • SOMETHING WILL RISE UP WITHIN
  • 01:11:17.080 --> 01:11:20.020
  • YOU.
  • 01:11:20.020 --> 01:11:21.100
  • AND, THE BIBLE SAYS YOU'LL KNOW
  • 01:11:21.100 --> 01:11:23.000
  • THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL
  • 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:23.290
  • SET YOU FREE.
  • 01:11:23.290 --> 01:11:24.280
  • SO, I WANNA PRAY WITH YOU.
  • 01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:26.090
  • AND THEN, WE'LL FINISH TALKING
  • 01:11:26.090 --> 01:11:27.080
  • A LITTLE BIT MORE.
  • 01:11:27.080 --> 01:11:28.120
  • BUT I WANNA PRAY SPECIFICALLY
  • 01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:29.160
  • FOR YOU.
  • 01:11:29.160 --> 01:11:31.080
  • AND FOR THE NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE
  • 01:11:31.080 --> 01:11:32.050
  • IN YOUR LIFE.
  • 01:11:32.050 --> 01:11:33.060
  • AND HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO
  • 01:11:33.060 --> 01:11:34.090
  • DO.
  • 01:11:34.090 --> 01:11:35.040
  • I WANT YOU JUST TO KIND OF
  • 01:11:35.040 --> 01:11:35.240
  • GO...
  • 01:11:35.240 --> 01:11:36.160
  • [EXHALES]
  • 01:11:36.160 --> 01:11:37.190
  • JUST CHILL...
  • 01:11:37.190 --> 01:11:38.060
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK IT UP.
  • 01:11:38.060 --> 01:11:39.180
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:11:39.180 --> 01:11:40.230
  • I PRAYED FOR ONE GUY ONE TIME.
  • 01:11:40.230 --> 01:11:41.140
  • HE WAS GIVEN 24 HOURS TO LIVE.
  • 01:11:41.140 --> 01:11:43.190
  • AND, SO-- AND HE WAS A
  • 01:11:43.190 --> 01:11:45.100
  • CHRISTIAN BROTHER AND HE COULD
  • 01:11:45.100 --> 01:11:46.140
  • HARDLY LIFT HIS HEAD OFF THE
  • 01:11:46.140 --> 01:11:47.120
  • BED.
  • 01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:48.170
  • SO, I CAME INTO THE ROOM.
  • 01:11:48.170 --> 01:11:49.070
  • HIS WIFE WAS THERE, HIS LAWYER
  • 01:11:49.070 --> 01:11:50.040
  • WAS THERE, A BOARD MEMBER FROM
  • 01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:51.240
  • OUR CHURCH CAME WITH ME, SO A
  • 01:11:51.240 --> 01:11:53.120
  • BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
  • 01:11:53.120 --> 01:11:54.190
  • SO, THE DOCTORS SAID HE
  • 01:11:54.190 --> 01:11:55.250
  • WOULDN'T MAKE 24 HOURS.
  • 01:11:55.250 --> 01:11:57.130
  • EVERYTHING WAS SHUTTING DOWN.
  • 01:11:57.130 --> 01:11:58.040
  • SO, I SAID, "I'M GONNA PRAY FOR
  • 01:11:58.040 --> 01:11:58.260
  • YOU."
  • 01:11:58.260 --> 01:11:59.080
  • AND AS I WENT TO PRAY FOR HIM,
  • 01:11:59.080 --> 01:12:00.290
  • HE STARTED GOING:
  • 01:12:00.290 --> 01:12:01.230
  • [IN FEVERISH, FERVENT VOICE]
  • 01:12:01.230 --> 01:12:02.180
  • "YES, JESUS, IN THE NAME--"
  • 01:12:02.180 --> 01:12:03.190
  • AND HE JUST TRIED TO WORK
  • 01:12:03.190 --> 01:12:04.080
  • HIMSELF UP.
  • 01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:04.210
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:05.140
  • - LEON: I SAID, "STOP, STOP,
  • 01:12:05.140 --> 01:12:06.050
  • STOP."
  • 01:12:06.050 --> 01:12:06.220
  • HE WENT, "WHAT?"
  • 01:12:06.220 --> 01:12:07.120
  • I SAID, "YOU CAN'T WORK IT UP."
  • 01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:09.060
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:12:10.070 --> 01:12:13.070
  • "IT'S EITHER HERE OR IT'S
  • 01:12:13.070 --> 01:12:13.260
  • NOT HERE.
  • 01:12:13.260 --> 01:12:14.070
  • IS GOD'S PRESENCE HERE?"
  • 01:12:14.070 --> 01:12:14.250
  • HE WENT...
  • 01:12:14.250 --> 01:12:15.060
  • [IN WHISPER]
  • 01:12:15.060 --> 01:12:15.240
  • "YEAH."
  • 01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:16.060
  • HE COULD HARDLY EVEN TALK, HE
  • 01:12:16.060 --> 01:12:16.270
  • WAS SO WEAK.
  • 01:12:16.270 --> 01:12:17.240
  • HE GOES, "YEAH."
  • 01:12:17.240 --> 01:12:18.120
  • "SO, IF GOD'S PRESENCE IS HERE,
  • 01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:19.090
  • THEN ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST
  • 01:12:19.090 --> 01:12:20.140
  • BELIEVE I'M GOING TO RELEASE IT
  • 01:12:20.140 --> 01:12:22.080
  • INTO YOU.
  • 01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:23.190
  • IS THAT OKAY?"
  • 01:12:23.190 --> 01:12:25.050
  • "YES."
  • 01:12:25.050 --> 01:12:25.190
  • I SAID: "DON'T SAY ANYTHING.
  • 01:12:25.190 --> 01:12:26.190
  • JUST LAY THERE.
  • 01:12:26.190 --> 01:12:29.050
  • JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES AND LET
  • 01:12:29.050 --> 01:12:29.250
  • JESUS WON ON THE CROSS THIS.
  • 01:12:29.250 --> 01:12:30.160
  • OKAY?"
  • 01:12:30.160 --> 01:12:32.140
  • HE GOES...
  • 01:12:32.140 --> 01:12:33.180
  • [WHISPERED TONE]
  • 01:12:33.180 --> 01:12:34.020
  • "OKAY."
  • 01:12:34.020 --> 01:12:34.240
  • SO, I LAID MY HANDS ON HIM AND
  • 01:12:34.240 --> 01:12:36.150
  • I JUST PRAYED A VERY SIMPLE
  • 01:12:36.150 --> 01:12:38.030
  • PRAYER.
  • 01:12:38.030 --> 01:12:39.000
  • I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT IT
  • 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:39.210
  • WAS, 'CAUSE MY PRAYERS ARE
  • 01:12:39.210 --> 01:12:40.140
  • SIMPLE, LIKE: FATHER, I SPEAK
  • 01:12:40.140 --> 01:12:42.000
  • LIFE INTO THIS BODY, IN THE
  • 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.150
  • NAME OF JESUS, RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:12:43.150 --> 01:12:46.060
  • THANK YOU.
  • 01:12:46.060 --> 01:12:47.170
  • AND TOOK MY HANDS OFF HIM,
  • 01:12:47.170 --> 01:12:50.020
  • LOOKED AT HIM.
  • 01:12:50.020 --> 01:12:50.280
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE GOES:
  • 01:12:50.280 --> 01:12:51.270
  • "I FEEL GOOD!
  • 01:12:51.270 --> 01:12:52.110
  • I FEEL GOOD!"
  • 01:12:52.110 --> 01:12:53.100
  • THIS MAN HAD LIKE EIGHT KIDS.
  • 01:12:53.100 --> 01:12:54.120
  • AND I SAID--
  • 01:12:54.120 --> 01:12:56.040
  • OH, AND HIS WIFE WAS SITTIN'
  • 01:12:56.040 --> 01:12:57.170
  • BESIDE HIM.
  • 01:12:57.170 --> 01:12:58.020
  • SHE GOES, "YOU LOOK GOOD."
  • 01:12:58.020 --> 01:12:58.280
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:12:58.280 --> 01:12:59.140
  • HE GOES, "I FEEL LIKE SITTING
  • 01:12:59.140 --> 01:13:00.100
  • UP."
  • 01:13:00.100 --> 01:13:01.150
  • WELL, HE COULDN'T EVEN LIFT HIS
  • 01:13:01.150 --> 01:13:02.070
  • HEAD OFF THE PILLOW.
  • 01:13:02.070 --> 01:13:03.000
  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HE SITS UP
  • 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:03.230
  • IN BED IN FRONT OF HIS LAWYER,
  • 01:13:03.230 --> 01:13:05.010
  • IN FRONT OF MY BOARD MEMBER,
  • 01:13:05.010 --> 01:13:07.090
  • HIS WIFE.
  • 01:13:07.090 --> 01:13:08.150
  • HE SITS UP, HE LOOKS AT HIS
  • 01:13:08.150 --> 01:13:09.140
  • WIFE, HE GOES, "I FEEL GOOD!"
  • 01:13:09.140 --> 01:13:11.030
  • SHE GOES, "YOU LOOK GOOD."
  • 01:13:11.030 --> 01:13:12.050
  • HE GOES, "I FEEL LIKE STANDING
  • 01:13:12.050 --> 01:13:13.280
  • UP!"
  • 01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:15.060
  • SHE GOES, "DO IT."
  • 01:13:15.060 --> 01:13:16.190
  • BECAUSE, SHE'S ABOUT TO LOSE
  • 01:13:16.190 --> 01:13:17.140
  • HER HUSBAND.
  • 01:13:17.140 --> 01:13:18.090
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:13:18.090 --> 01:13:18.280
  • - LEON: SHE'S GONNA RAISE
  • 01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:19.180
  • THESE KIDS BY HERSELF.
  • 01:13:19.180 --> 01:13:20.180
  • THIS GUY STANDS UP AND HE
  • 01:13:20.180 --> 01:13:21.250
  • STARTS WAVING BACK AND FORTH.
  • 01:13:21.250 --> 01:13:22.210
  • HE'S SO WEAK.
  • 01:13:22.210 --> 01:13:23.240
  • AND SO, I GRAB ONE ARM, SHE
  • 01:13:23.240 --> 01:13:25.010
  • GRABS-- AND WE JUST KIND OF
  • 01:13:25.010 --> 01:13:25.260
  • HELD HIM THERE.
  • 01:13:25.260 --> 01:13:26.280
  • AND HE GOES, "I FEEL GOOD!"
  • 01:13:26.280 --> 01:13:27.180
  • THIS BIG SMILE'S COMIN' ON HIS
  • 01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:28.200
  • FACE.
  • 01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:29.100
  • SHE GOES, "YOU LOOK GOOD."
  • 01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:30.030
  • "I FEEL LIKE DANCIN'."
  • 01:13:30.030 --> 01:13:31.190
  • SHE GOES, "WHAT?
  • 01:13:31.190 --> 01:13:32.270
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:13:32.270 --> 01:13:33.190
  • DO IT!"
  • 01:13:33.190 --> 01:13:34.290
  • SO, HE'S WEARING A BLUE GOWN,
  • 01:13:34.290 --> 01:13:35.200
  • YOU KNOW WITH THE BACK OPEN?
  • 01:13:35.200 --> 01:13:36.130
  • - MATT: YEAH.
  • 01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:37.020
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:13:37.020 --> 01:13:37.180
  • - LEON: GOOD THING IT WAS ALL
  • 01:13:37.180 --> 01:13:38.100
  • MEN IN THE ROOM.
  • 01:13:38.100 --> 01:13:38.250
  • AND HE GRABS IT-- HE HAD A
  • 01:13:38.250 --> 01:13:39.190
  • LONG, SKINNY IV POLE.
  • 01:13:39.190 --> 01:13:41.080
  • AND HE STARTED KIND OF JUST
  • 01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:42.080
  • MOVING HIS FEET AROUND.
  • 01:13:42.080 --> 01:13:43.100
  • LITERALLY, THIS MAN WAS SO
  • 01:13:43.100 --> 01:13:44.060
  • EXCITED.
  • 01:13:44.060 --> 01:13:45.290
  • HE COULD SENSE THIS STRENGTH,
  • 01:13:45.290 --> 01:13:46.200
  • THIS HEALING, THIS ENERGY FROM
  • 01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:48.160
  • BEING SO WEAK AND DYING.
  • 01:13:48.160 --> 01:13:50.150
  • AND THAT MAN WAS COMPLETELY
  • 01:13:50.150 --> 01:13:52.110
  • HEALED AND IS ALIVE TODAY, IN
  • 01:13:52.110 --> 01:13:53.280
  • FRONT OF HIS LAWYER, IN FRONT
  • 01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:55.240
  • OF ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
  • 01:13:55.240 --> 01:13:56.270
  • AN INCREDIBLE MIRACLE.
  • 01:13:56.270 --> 01:13:58.000
  • AND THEN, THE HOSPITAL -- WHO
  • 01:13:58.000 --> 01:13:59.250
  • DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG
  • 01:13:59.250 --> 01:14:01.080
  • WITH HIM; THEY HAD SENT OFF
  • 01:14:01.080 --> 01:14:02.040
  • BLOOD TESTS AND STUFF TO ALL
  • 01:14:02.040 --> 01:14:03.250
  • THE GREAT HOSPITALS; THEY SAID
  • 01:14:03.250 --> 01:14:04.180
  • IT WAS NOT GOING TO GET BACK IN
  • 01:14:04.180 --> 01:14:05.180
  • TIME -- THEY COULDN'T FIND A
  • 01:14:05.180 --> 01:14:06.250
  • THING WRONG WITH HIM.
  • 01:14:06.250 --> 01:14:07.190
  • THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG.
  • 01:14:07.190 --> 01:14:08.110
  • BUT GOD TOUCHED HIM AND HEALED
  • 01:14:08.110 --> 01:14:09.040
  • HIM.
  • 01:14:09.040 --> 01:14:09.240
  • THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO
  • 01:14:09.240 --> 01:14:10.160
  • UNDERSTAND.
  • 01:14:10.160 --> 01:14:12.240
  • YOU DON'T NEED TO WORK IT UP.
  • 01:14:12.240 --> 01:14:14.100
  • YOU DON'T NEED TO PRAY IT UP OR
  • 01:14:14.100 --> 01:14:16.110
  • PRAY IT THROUGH.
  • 01:14:16.110 --> 01:14:17.190
  • WHAT ARE YOU GONNA PRAY
  • 01:14:17.190 --> 01:14:18.170
  • THROUGH?
  • 01:14:18.170 --> 01:14:19.080
  • THE DEVIL DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH
  • 01:14:19.080 --> 01:14:20.030
  • POWER TO STOP IT.
  • 01:14:20.070 --> 01:14:23.070
  • GOD'S NOT WITH GONNA
  • 01:14:23.070 --> 01:14:23.240
  • WITHHOLD IT, SO, WHAT ARE
  • 01:14:23.240 --> 01:14:24.150
  • WE GONNA PRAY ABOUT?
  • 01:14:24.150 --> 01:14:25.030
  • WELL, ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF
  • 01:14:25.030 --> 01:14:25.290
  • GOD, YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE
  • 01:14:25.290 --> 01:14:26.190
  • MOUNTAIN.
  • 01:14:26.190 --> 01:14:27.010
  • THIS MIRACLE'S ALREADY YOURS.
  • 01:14:27.010 --> 01:14:29.290
  • YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FAST THREE
  • 01:14:29.290 --> 01:14:30.210
  • DAYS TO BREAK THE HOLD OF THE
  • 01:14:30.210 --> 01:14:32.110
  • DEVIL.
  • 01:14:32.110 --> 01:14:33.240
  • THE DEVIL'S HOLD WAS BROKEN
  • 01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:34.220
  • 2.000 YEARS AGO.
  • 01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:35.200
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:36.240
  • - LEON: JESUS DEFEATED HIM AND
  • 01:14:36.240 --> 01:14:38.030
  • SAID THAT I HAVE ALL THE
  • 01:14:38.030 --> 01:14:40.080
  • AUTHORITY: I HAVE ALL THE
  • 01:14:40.080 --> 01:14:41.090
  • AUTHORITY.
  • 01:14:41.090 --> 01:14:41.270
  • WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DEVIL,
  • 01:14:41.270 --> 01:14:42.180
  • I THINK ABOUT A DEFEATED FOE.
  • 01:14:42.180 --> 01:14:43.130
  • I THINK ABOUT-- I'M NOT GIVING
  • 01:14:43.130 --> 01:14:44.040
  • HIM ANY ATTENTION.
  • 01:14:44.040 --> 01:14:44.190
  • AND I'M NOT GONNA BEG AND PLEAD
  • 01:14:44.190 --> 01:14:45.160
  • WITH GOD.
  • 01:14:45.160 --> 01:14:46.030
  • BECAUSE HE'S NOT A RELUCTANT
  • 01:14:46.030 --> 01:14:47.080
  • GOD WITHHOLDING THE HEALING.
  • 01:14:47.080 --> 01:14:49.040
  • HE COMMANDED IT ON ME 2.000
  • 01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:51.010
  • YEARS AGO.
  • 01:14:51.010 --> 01:14:51.210
  • SO, IF GOD'S COMMANDED THE
  • 01:14:51.210 --> 01:14:53.030
  • BLESSING ON ME AND SATAN'S BEEN
  • 01:14:53.030 --> 01:14:53.290
  • DESTROYED FROM STOPPING THAT
  • 01:14:53.290 --> 01:14:55.010
  • BLESSING IN MY LIFE, WELL,
  • 01:14:55.010 --> 01:14:56.260
  • THEN, I'M JUST GONNA RECEIVE
  • 01:14:56.260 --> 01:14:57.240
  • IT.
  • 01:14:57.240 --> 01:14:59.120
  • - MATT: GOOD.
  • 01:14:59.120 --> 01:15:00.020
  • - LEON: I'M GONNA SEND IT.
  • 01:15:00.020 --> 01:15:00.280
  • FATHER, RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE
  • 01:15:00.280 --> 01:15:02.140
  • WATCHING THROUGH THIS CAMERA
  • 01:15:02.140 --> 01:15:03.190
  • AND THROUGH THEIR TELEVISIONS.
  • 01:15:03.190 --> 01:15:04.130
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 01:15:04.130 --> 01:15:05.210
  • - LEON: AND, LORD, I'M ASKING
  • 01:15:06.250 --> 01:15:09.250
  • THAT, HOLY SPIRIT, THAT YOU
  • 01:15:09.250 --> 01:15:11.130
  • WOULD JUST TOUCH THEM IN A
  • 01:15:11.130 --> 01:15:13.080
  • BEAUTIFUL WAY; THAT, FATHER,
  • 01:15:13.080 --> 01:15:14.140
  • THEIR MIND WOULD JUST BE AT
  • 01:15:14.140 --> 01:15:15.040
  • PEACE RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:16.180
  • AND, FATHER, I THANK YOU THAT
  • 01:15:16.180 --> 01:15:18.200
  • YOUR FAVORS,
  • 01:15:19.080 --> 01:15:22.080
  • THAT YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAID
  • 01:15:22.080 --> 01:15:24.000
  • WE CAN COME BOLDLY TO YOUR
  • 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:24.200
  • THRONE OF GRACE, ASK FOR MERCY
  • 01:15:24.200 --> 01:15:25.150
  • AND HELP IN TIME OF NEED.
  • 01:15:25.150 --> 01:15:27.080
  • SO, IN JESUS' NAME, RECEIVE THE
  • 01:15:27.080 --> 01:15:29.230
  • FREE GIFT OF HEALING.
  • 01:15:29.230 --> 01:15:32.120
  • FATHER, I PRAY YOU TOUCH THAT
  • 01:15:32.120 --> 01:15:33.200
  • TROUBLED MIND.
  • 01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:35.110
  • THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE SO
  • 01:15:35.110 --> 01:15:36.240
  • STRESSED AND DEPRESSED.
  • 01:15:36.240 --> 01:15:38.160
  • DO A MIRACLE RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:15:38.160 --> 01:15:40.000
  • AND, MIND, YOU BE AT PEACE.
  • 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.230
  • FATHER, I SPEAK LIFE INTO THOSE
  • 01:15:42.230 --> 01:15:43.230
  • BOWELS.
  • 01:15:43.230 --> 01:15:45.120
  • I SPEAK LIFE INTO THAT HEART.
  • 01:15:45.120 --> 01:15:46.180
  • I SPEAK LIFE INTO THAT PHYSICAL
  • 01:15:46.180 --> 01:15:47.210
  • BODY.
  • 01:15:47.210 --> 01:15:48.190
  • LET THERE BE AN EXPLOSION OF
  • 01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:49.110
  • MIRACLES TAKE PLACE!
  • 01:15:49.190 --> 01:15:52.190
  • LET PEOPLE REPORT FROM ALL OVER
  • 01:15:52.190 --> 01:15:54.050
  • THIS PLANET THAT IN THIS ONE
  • 01:15:54.050 --> 01:15:56.060
  • SIMPLE PRAYER, MIRACLES
  • 01:15:57.140 --> 01:16:00.160
  • EXPLODED.
  • 01:16:00.160 --> 01:16:01.100
  • FATHER, I JUST PRAY RESTORATION
  • 01:16:01.100 --> 01:16:02.020
  • OF MARRIAGES...
  • 01:16:02.020 --> 01:16:02.160
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, LORD.
  • 01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:03.050
  • - LEON: ...OF HOMES...
  • 01:16:03.050 --> 01:16:04.060
  • THOSE RUNAWAYS, THEIR PARENTS
  • 01:16:04.060 --> 01:16:06.210
  • DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE --
  • 01:16:06.210 --> 01:16:07.110
  • FATHER, LET THIS WEEK LET THEM
  • 01:16:07.110 --> 01:16:08.050
  • HEAR FROM THEM.
  • 01:16:08.050 --> 01:16:10.110
  • LET THEM GET GOOD NEWS.
  • 01:16:10.110 --> 01:16:11.120
  • I'M PRAYING FOR THAT
  • 01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:12.160
  • BUSINESSPERSON, FATHER, WHO'S
  • 01:16:12.160 --> 01:16:13.200
  • LOSING A CAREER OR A BUSINESS
  • 01:16:13.200 --> 01:16:14.260
  • AND IS JUST FREAKED OUT.
  • 01:16:14.260 --> 01:16:17.080
  • I'M ASKING YOU THIS WEEK THAT A
  • 01:16:17.080 --> 01:16:19.040
  • MIRACLE TAKES PLACE THAT THEY
  • 01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:21.020
  • COULD NEVER HAVE WORKED UP AND
  • 01:16:21.020 --> 01:16:22.270
  • THEY'LL KNOW THAT THE GOD OF
  • 01:16:22.270 --> 01:16:24.080
  • ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, THE GOD
  • 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.000
  • -- OUR GOD -- IS TOUCHING THEIR
  • 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.020
  • LIVES.
  • 01:16:29.020 --> 01:16:30.200
  • FATHER, LET MIRACLES EXPLODE
  • 01:16:30.200 --> 01:16:32.050
  • INTO HOMES AND FAMILIES.
  • 01:16:32.050 --> 01:16:33.240
  • THAT HOSPITAL BED WATCH YOU
  • 01:16:33.240 --> 01:16:35.130
  • RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:16:35.130 --> 01:16:36.090
  • LET IT JUST, FATHER, TOUCH
  • 01:16:36.090 --> 01:16:37.280
  • EVERY ORGAN, THE BLOOD, EVERY
  • 01:16:37.280 --> 01:16:39.060
  • NERVE ENDING--
  • 01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:40.110
  • - MATT: THANK YOU, FATHER.
  • 01:16:40.110 --> 01:16:41.110
  • - LEON: --EVERY MUSCLE, EVERY
  • 01:16:41.110 --> 01:16:42.040
  • BONE, FATHER.
  • 01:16:42.040 --> 01:16:43.070
  • JUST RESTORE THEM, IN JESUS'
  • 01:16:43.070 --> 01:16:44.160
  • NAME.
  • 01:16:44.160 --> 01:16:45.070
  • JESUS, YOU PAID THE PRICE FOR
  • 01:16:45.070 --> 01:16:47.170
  • HEALING.
  • 01:16:47.170 --> 01:16:48.270
  • YOU TOOK ALL OF THE CURSE.
  • 01:16:48.270 --> 01:16:50.140
  • THEREFORE, HELP THEM TO TAKE IT
  • 01:16:50.140 --> 01:16:52.050
  • AS A FREE GIFT.
  • 01:16:52.050 --> 01:16:53.090
  • JUST TAKE IT RIGHT NOW, IN
  • 01:16:53.090 --> 01:16:54.150
  • JESUS' NAME.
  • 01:16:54.150 --> 01:16:55.080
  • RECEIVE THE POWER OF GOD AND
  • 01:16:55.080 --> 01:16:57.280
  • LET A MIRACLE TAKE PLACE.
  • 01:16:57.280 --> 01:16:59.130
  • - LAURIE: YES.
  • 01:16:59.130 --> 01:17:01.160
  • - LEON: JUST SAY: THANK YOU,
  • 01:17:01.160 --> 01:17:02.070
  • JESUS.
  • 01:17:02.070 --> 01:17:02.160
  • - LAURIE: THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 01:17:02.160 --> 01:17:03.130
  • - LEON: THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 01:17:03.130 --> 01:17:04.220
  • - LAURIE: THANK YOU, JESUS.
  • 01:17:04.220 --> 01:17:06.190
  • - LEON: AMEN.
  • 01:17:06.190 --> 01:17:07.040
  • - MATT: AMEN.
  • 01:17:07.040 --> 01:17:07.200
  • - LAURIE: AMEN.
  • 01:17:07.200 --> 01:17:08.150
  • - LEON: YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS
  • 01:17:08.150 --> 01:17:09.050
  • TELL PEOPLE WHEN WE PRAY IN OUR
  • 01:17:09.050 --> 01:17:09.270
  • CHURCH THAT IF YOU ARE A
  • 01:17:09.270 --> 01:17:10.150
  • DIABETIC AND I PRAY FOR YOU AND
  • 01:17:11.040 --> 01:17:14.040
  • WE PRAY FOR YOU THAT YOU NEED
  • 01:17:14.040 --> 01:17:15.070
  • TO BE VERY AWARE THAT IF YOU'RE
  • 01:17:15.070 --> 01:17:16.040
  • TAKING INSULIN THAT IF YOUR
  • 01:17:16.040 --> 01:17:18.060
  • PANCREAS GETS HEALED AND YOU'RE
  • 01:17:18.060 --> 01:17:19.180
  • ADDING INSULIN TO IT THAT YOU
  • 01:17:19.180 --> 01:17:20.230
  • CAN GO IN INSULIN SHOCK.
  • 01:17:20.230 --> 01:17:22.120
  • SO, IF YOU ARE-- SO, BUT I
  • 01:17:22.120 --> 01:17:24.140
  • DON'T TELL THEM TO THROW THEIR
  • 01:17:24.140 --> 01:17:25.060
  • MEDICATION AWAY.
  • 01:17:25.060 --> 01:17:26.130
  • I JUST SAY JUST BE AWARE.
  • 01:17:26.130 --> 01:17:28.090
  • JESUS DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH
  • 01:17:28.090 --> 01:17:29.100
  • SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
  • 01:17:29.100 --> 01:17:30.120
  • IF YOU'RE ON DIGOXIN AS ONE OF
  • 01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:32.120
  • THE HEART MEDICATIONS...
  • 01:17:32.120 --> 01:17:33.290
  • YOU KNOW, IF YOUR HEART AND ALL
  • 01:17:34.150 --> 01:17:37.150
  • THESE ARRHYTHMIAS HEAL UP AND
  • 01:17:37.150 --> 01:17:38.060
  • YOU KEEP TAKING DIGOXIN, WELL,
  • 01:17:38.060 --> 01:17:38.280
  • IT CAN KILL YOU.
  • 01:17:38.280 --> 01:17:39.130
  • SO, BE VERY AWARE AS YOUR HEART
  • 01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:40.210
  • HEALS UP, IF YOUR MEDICATION
  • 01:17:40.210 --> 01:17:41.210
  • MAKES YOU FEEL FUNNY, GO SEE
  • 01:17:41.210 --> 01:17:43.010
  • YOUR DOCTOR.
  • 01:17:43.010 --> 01:17:44.150
  • HE'S NOT GOING TO DISPROVE IF
  • 01:17:44.150 --> 01:17:45.250
  • GOD'S DONE A MIRACLE IN YOUR
  • 01:17:45.250 --> 01:17:47.070
  • BODY.
  • 01:17:47.070 --> 01:17:48.060
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER
  • 01:17:48.060 --> 01:17:49.110
  • MEDICATIONS YOU'RE ON, DON'T
  • 01:17:49.110 --> 01:17:50.140
  • THROW THEM AWAY--
  • 01:17:50.140 --> 01:17:52.160
  • DON'T STOMP ON YOUR GLASSES AS
  • 01:17:52.160 --> 01:17:54.120
  • A SIGN OF HEALING AND THEN
  • 01:17:54.120 --> 01:17:55.020
  • DRIVE BY MY HOUSE.
  • 01:17:55.020 --> 01:17:56.060
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:17:56.060 --> 01:17:56.220
  • [MATT LAUGHS]
  • 01:17:56.220 --> 01:17:57.110
  • THERE'S TWO WAYS GOD HEALS.
  • 01:17:57.110 --> 01:17:59.030
  • THERE'S THE MIRACLE, WHICH IS
  • 01:17:59.030 --> 01:17:59.240
  • INSTANTANEOUS, BUT THEN THERE'S
  • 01:17:59.240 --> 01:18:00.240
  • THE RECOVERY, WHICH IS A
  • 01:18:00.240 --> 01:18:01.230
  • GRADUAL--
  • 01:18:01.230 --> 01:18:04.020
  • AND IT SURE BEATS DYING.
  • 01:18:06.010 --> 01:18:09.010
  • ONE LADY IN OUR CHURCH HAD A
  • 01:18:09.010 --> 01:18:09.220
  • TUMOR.
  • 01:18:09.220 --> 01:18:10.050
  • AND IT STARTED SHRINKING BUT IT
  • 01:18:10.050 --> 01:18:10.270
  • TOOK NINE MONTHS TO DISAPPEAR.
  • 01:18:10.270 --> 01:18:12.190
  • AND WHEN IT DID DISAPPEAR, IT
  • 01:18:12.190 --> 01:18:13.220
  • NEVER CAME BACK.
  • 01:18:13.220 --> 01:18:15.080
  • AND SHE'S STILL ALIVE TODAY,
  • 01:18:15.080 --> 01:18:16.200
  • SO, I DON'T CARE IF IT TAKES
  • 01:18:16.200 --> 01:18:17.280
  • NINE MONTHS, 24 HOURS, OR IF
  • 01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:19.080
  • YOU GOT A MIRACLE RIGHT NOW.
  • 01:18:19.080 --> 01:18:20.080
  • YOU JUST KEEP LOVIN', LAUGHING,
  • 01:18:20.080 --> 01:18:21.220
  • ENJOYING GOD.
  • 01:18:21.220 --> 01:18:23.070
  • GET A HOLD OF SOME GREAT
  • 01:18:23.070 --> 01:18:25.020
  • MATERIAL ON WHAT HAPPENED AT
  • 01:18:25.020 --> 01:18:26.210
  • THE CROSS, HOW COMPLETE WAS IT
  • 01:18:26.210 --> 01:18:28.220
  • THAT-- THAT PAID FOR EVERYTHING
  • 01:18:28.220 --> 01:18:31.020
  • THAT EVER--
  • 01:18:31.020 --> 01:18:32.090
  • IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, EVERY
  • 01:18:32.090 --> 01:18:33.060
  • PROMISE HAS AN "IF."
  • 01:18:33.060 --> 01:18:34.120
  • BUT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS
  • 01:18:34.120 --> 01:18:35.250
  • QUALIFIED YOU FOR EVERY
  • 01:18:35.250 --> 01:18:37.180
  • PROMISE.
  • 01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:39.050
  • SO NOW, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE
  • 01:18:39.050 --> 01:18:40.000
  • THE WAY YOU PRAY?
  • 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:41.210
  • IF THE DEVIL WAS STRIPPED OF
  • 01:18:41.210 --> 01:18:42.250
  • ALL POWER, HOW DOES THAT CHANGE
  • 01:18:42.250 --> 01:18:44.110
  • THE WAY WE PRAY IN THE NEW
  • 01:18:44.110 --> 01:18:45.240
  • TESTAMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE OLD
  • 01:18:45.240 --> 01:18:47.270
  • TESTAMENT?
  • 01:18:47.270 --> 01:18:49.130
  • WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE PRAYING
  • 01:18:49.130 --> 01:18:50.220
  • OLD TESTAMENT PRAYERS HERE WHEN
  • 01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:52.240
  • THEY OUGHT TO BE UNDERSTANDING
  • 01:18:52.240 --> 01:18:54.080
  • THE NEW COVENANT REALITIES, THE
  • 01:18:54.080 --> 01:18:56.100
  • AUTHORITY OF THE BELIEVER, WHAT
  • 01:18:56.100 --> 01:18:58.010
  • GRACE IS.
  • 01:18:58.010 --> 01:19:00.040
  • GRACE ISN'T JUST UNDESERVED
  • 01:19:00.040 --> 01:19:02.030
  • FAVOR.
  • 01:19:02.030 --> 01:19:03.240
  • IT'S HIS ABILITY THAT'S COMING
  • 01:19:03.240 --> 01:19:06.120
  • TO YOU AS UNDESERVED AND AS A
  • 01:19:06.120 --> 01:19:07.090
  • FAVOR.
  • 01:19:07.090 --> 01:19:08.280
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:19:08.280 --> 01:19:09.190
  • - LEON: THAT ABILITY WILL HELP
  • 01:19:09.190 --> 01:19:10.180
  • YOU TO BREAK ADDICTION, THAT
  • 01:19:10.180 --> 01:19:11.230
  • ABILITY HELPS YOU TO SAY NO TO
  • 01:19:11.230 --> 01:19:12.290
  • TEMPTATION.
  • 01:19:12.290 --> 01:19:14.070
  • YOU CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN,
  • 01:19:14.070 --> 01:19:15.280
  • BUT THIS GRACE IS YOURS.
  • 01:19:15.280 --> 01:19:18.010
  • HIS POWER, HIS ABILITY TO BE
  • 01:19:18.010 --> 01:19:19.150
  • THE HUSBAND THAT YOU WANNA BE,
  • 01:19:19.150 --> 01:19:21.070
  • THE DAD YOU'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO
  • 01:19:21.070 --> 01:19:22.160
  • BE, THE MUM YOU'VE ALWAYS
  • 01:19:22.160 --> 01:19:24.020
  • WANTED TO BE, THE
  • 01:19:24.020 --> 01:19:24.220
  • BUSINESSPERSON -- HE'LL GUIDE
  • 01:19:24.220 --> 01:19:25.210
  • YOU, HE'LL LEAD YOU.
  • 01:19:25.210 --> 01:19:26.200
  • OH, MAN!
  • 01:19:26.200 --> 01:19:27.120
  • WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE CROSS
  • 01:19:27.120 --> 01:19:28.240
  • AND WHAT TOOK PLACE AT THE
  • 01:19:28.240 --> 01:19:30.100
  • CROSS, HOW COMPLETE THIS WAS...
  • 01:19:30.170 --> 01:19:33.170
  • I MEAN, THE WORLD LITERALLY HAD
  • 01:19:33.170 --> 01:19:35.020
  • EARTHQUAKES AND ECLIPSES AND
  • 01:19:35.020 --> 01:19:37.070
  • DEAD BODIES ARE WALKING OUT OF
  • 01:19:37.070 --> 01:19:39.000
  • GRAVES WHEN JESUS DIED AND PAID
  • 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:41.030
  • THE PRICE FOR EVERY ONE OF US.
  • 01:19:41.030 --> 01:19:43.010
  • MIRACULOUSLY INCREDIBLE!
  • 01:19:43.010 --> 01:19:45.230
  • FOR YOU.
  • 01:19:45.230 --> 01:19:47.080
  • NOW, LET'S START WALKING THIS
  • 01:19:47.080 --> 01:19:48.160
  • INCREDIBLE LIFE.
  • 01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:50.050
  • LET'S LIVE THIS LIFE THAT GOD
  • 01:19:50.050 --> 01:19:51.140
  • AND IF YOU NEED MORE
  • 01:19:54.050 --> 01:19:54.210
  • INFORMATION ON SPIRIT
  • 01:19:54.210 --> 01:19:55.080
  • AND ORDER SOME-- AND JUST GET A
  • 01:20:00.090 --> 01:20:01.010
  • STEADY DIET OF THIS COMING INTO
  • 01:20:01.010 --> 01:20:02.010
  • YOUR LIFE.
  • 01:20:02.010 --> 01:20:03.280
  • BECAUSE I WANT YOU SPIRITUALLY
  • 01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:05.010
  • ALIVE, VIBRANT WITH HOLY SPIRIT
  • 01:20:05.090 --> 01:20:08.090
  • AND, THEN, CONTEMPORARY, COOL,
  • 01:20:10.180 --> 01:20:11.230
  • AND RELEVANT IN HOW YOU WALK
  • 01:20:11.230 --> 01:20:13.200
  • THROUGH EVERYDAY LIFE.
  • 01:20:13.200 --> 01:20:16.000
  • NO COMPROMISE, BUT DOING BOTH.
  • 01:20:16.010 --> 01:20:19.010
  • SO, IF YOU'RE IN BUSINESS, THE
  • 01:20:19.010 --> 01:20:19.220
  • PRESENCE OF GOD AND THE
  • 01:20:19.220 --> 01:20:21.060
  • BLESSING OF GOD IS UPON YOU.
  • 01:20:21.060 --> 01:20:23.110
  • BUT NOW, PRACTICALLY, IN THIS
  • 01:20:23.110 --> 01:20:24.050
  • CONTEMPORARY WORLD, YOU'RE
  • 01:20:24.050 --> 01:20:24.250
  • STILL GONNA NEED GOOD SKILLS.
  • 01:20:24.250 --> 01:20:25.220
  • YOU CAN PRAY FOR A QUARTER OF A
  • 01:20:25.220 --> 01:20:26.190
  • MILLION DOLLAR JOB, BUT YOU
  • 01:20:26.190 --> 01:20:28.130
  • NEED A QUARTER OF A MILLION
  • 01:20:28.130 --> 01:20:30.010
  • DOLLAR SKILLS OR THEY'RE GONNA
  • 01:20:30.010 --> 01:20:31.180
  • FIRE YOU ONCE YOU GET THAT
  • 01:20:31.180 --> 01:20:32.220
  • BLESSED JOB.
  • 01:20:32.220 --> 01:20:34.150
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:20:34.150 --> 01:20:35.270
  • SO, WE NEED THIS SPIRIT OF GOD,
  • 01:20:35.270 --> 01:20:37.170
  • THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 01:20:37.170 --> 01:20:38.060
  • BUT NOW, IN THIS WORLD THAT WE
  • 01:20:38.060 --> 01:20:39.110
  • LIVE IN, LET'S BE CONTEMPORARY,
  • 01:20:39.110 --> 01:20:40.190
  • RELEVANT...
  • 01:20:40.190 --> 01:20:42.130
  • LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE
  • 01:20:42.130 --> 01:20:44.010
  • UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE THAT
  • 01:20:44.010 --> 01:20:45.080
  • WE'RE REACHING.
  • 01:20:45.080 --> 01:20:47.030
  • LET'S MAKE SURE.
  • 01:20:47.030 --> 01:20:47.190
  • YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WATCHING
  • 01:20:47.190 --> 01:20:48.140
  • TODAY, AS WELL, AND, YOU WERE
  • 01:20:48.140 --> 01:20:49.170
  • RAISED, LIKE ME, IN A LOT OF
  • 01:20:49.170 --> 01:20:51.110
  • CHRISTIAN CHRISTIANITY--
  • 01:20:51.260 --> 01:20:54.260
  • AND I HAD AMAZING TEACHING FROM
  • 01:20:54.260 --> 01:20:56.020
  • MY MUM AND DAD, BUT THEN I
  • 01:20:56.020 --> 01:20:57.100
  • BEGAN TO FOLLOW ALL THESE OTHER
  • 01:20:57.100 --> 01:20:58.020
  • GREAT LEADERS.
  • 01:20:58.020 --> 01:20:58.240
  • BUT, I STARTED TO GET
  • 01:20:58.240 --> 01:21:00.090
  • RELIGIOUS, I STARTED TO MAKE
  • 01:21:00.090 --> 01:21:01.160
  • RULES ABOUT HOW HOLY SPIRIT
  • 01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:02.070
  • WOULD OR WOULDN'T MOVE.
  • 01:21:02.070 --> 01:21:03.070
  • - MATT: WOW.
  • 01:21:03.070 --> 01:21:03.220
  • - LEON: AND HOW THE GIFTS OF
  • 01:21:03.220 --> 01:21:04.170
  • THE SPIRIT WOULD OR WOULDN'T
  • 01:21:04.170 --> 01:21:05.080
  • FLOW.
  • 01:21:05.080 --> 01:21:05.280
  • AND IS THE ANOINTING HERE OR
  • 01:21:05.280 --> 01:21:06.220
  • NOT HERE?
  • 01:21:06.220 --> 01:21:07.080
  • DO I FEEL HIM OR NOT?
  • 01:21:07.080 --> 01:21:07.270
  • DO I HAVE HOLY GOOSE BUMPS OR
  • 01:21:07.270 --> 01:21:08.200
  • NOT?
  • 01:21:08.200 --> 01:21:09.050
  • DO I SEE A GLORY CLOUD COMING
  • 01:21:09.050 --> 01:21:10.140
  • DOWN ANYWHERE?
  • 01:21:10.140 --> 01:21:11.100
  • IS THERE AN ANGEL--
  • 01:21:11.100 --> 01:21:12.020
  • IS THERE A LADDER WITH ANGELS
  • 01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:13.060
  • COMING DOWN?
  • 01:21:13.060 --> 01:21:13.250
  • LIKE ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT I
  • 01:21:13.250 --> 01:21:14.240
  • HAD HEARD...
  • 01:21:15.220 --> 01:21:18.220
  • ...I JUST KIND OF SAID: "GOD,
  • 01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:19.170
  • I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK TO YOUR
  • 01:21:19.170 --> 01:21:20.080
  • WORD.
  • 01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:21.030
  • AND I'M JUST GONNA READ YOUR
  • 01:21:21.030 --> 01:21:21.230
  • WORD."
  • 01:21:21.230 --> 01:21:22.190
  • YOU KNOW, I'D RUN INTO DEMONIC
  • 01:21:22.190 --> 01:21:23.110
  • SITUATIONS.
  • 01:21:23.110 --> 01:21:24.050
  • I REMEMBER ONE TIME THAT FOUR
  • 01:21:24.050 --> 01:21:25.100
  • POLICEMEN WERE TRYING TO HOLD
  • 01:21:25.100 --> 01:21:26.150
  • DOWN THIS DEMONICALLY POSSESSED
  • 01:21:26.150 --> 01:21:27.240
  • WOMAN.
  • 01:21:27.240 --> 01:21:29.150
  • SHE WAS-- AND THEY COULD NOT.
  • 01:21:29.150 --> 01:21:30.100
  • SHE WAS FLIPPIN' OUT, FREAKIN'
  • 01:21:30.100 --> 01:21:31.170
  • OUT.
  • 01:21:31.170 --> 01:21:32.100
  • AND I WAS A PARAMEDIC THEN.
  • 01:21:32.100 --> 01:21:33.150
  • SO, I WALK IN AND THEY SAID,
  • 01:21:33.150 --> 01:21:35.040
  • "WE'VE GOT TO STRAP HER ONTO
  • 01:21:35.040 --> 01:21:37.150
  • YOUR STRETCHER."
  • 01:21:37.150 --> 01:21:38.100
  • BUT, LOOK.
  • 01:21:38.100 --> 01:21:39.120
  • AND SHE HAD ONE GUY WHERE HE
  • 01:21:39.120 --> 01:21:40.080
  • HAD SCRATCHES ON HIM.
  • 01:21:41.170 --> 01:21:44.170
  • SHE WAS JUST SCREAMING FLIPPIN'
  • 01:21:44.170 --> 01:21:45.120
  • WILD MAD.
  • 01:21:45.120 --> 01:21:45.260
  • AND SHE WAS DEMONICALLY
  • 01:21:45.260 --> 01:21:46.140
  • OPPRESSED.
  • 01:21:46.280 --> 01:21:49.280
  • POSSESSED.
  • 01:21:49.280 --> 01:21:50.100
  • AND SO, I REMEMBER GOING TO THE
  • 01:21:50.100 --> 01:21:51.020
  • HEAD.
  • 01:21:51.020 --> 01:21:51.140
  • AND I PUT MY HEAD DOWN TO HER
  • 01:21:51.140 --> 01:21:52.050
  • EAR.
  • 01:21:52.050 --> 01:21:52.190
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:21:52.190 --> 01:21:54.030
  • AND I SAID, "SHUT UP."
  • 01:21:54.030 --> 01:21:54.210
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 01:21:54.210 --> 01:21:55.020
  • THAT'S ALL I SAID.
  • 01:21:55.020 --> 01:21:55.190
  • AND SHE WENT -- BAM!
  • 01:21:55.190 --> 01:21:56.090
  • JUST LIKE THAT.
  • 01:21:56.090 --> 01:21:56.250
  • PUT HER HANDS ON HER STOMACH.
  • 01:21:56.250 --> 01:21:58.070
  • WE PUT HER ON THE...GURNEY,
  • 01:21:59.070 --> 01:22:02.090
  • STRAPPED HER DOWN, AND THEN THE
  • 01:22:02.090 --> 01:22:03.210
  • POLICE WOULD HAVE TO PUT
  • 01:22:03.210 --> 01:22:04.210
  • RESTRAINTS ON.
  • 01:22:04.210 --> 01:22:05.180
  • WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
  • 01:22:05.180 --> 01:22:06.280
  • AND THEN WE TOOK HER OFF TO THE
  • 01:22:06.280 --> 01:22:07.200
  • MENTAL WARD.
  • 01:22:07.200 --> 01:22:09.210
  • ONE OF THE POLICEMEN WAS
  • 01:22:09.210 --> 01:22:10.150
  • WATCHING REALLY CLOSELY.
  • 01:22:10.150 --> 01:22:11.160
  • AND HE SAYS, "WHAT IN THE BEEP
  • 01:22:11.160 --> 01:22:14.160
  • DID YOU SAY TO THAT LADY?"
  • 01:22:14.160 --> 01:22:16.140
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:22:16.140 --> 01:22:17.060
  • AND, I DIDN'T SENSE IT WAS A
  • 01:22:17.060 --> 01:22:18.080
  • TIME TO TALK TO HIM AT THAT
  • 01:22:18.080 --> 01:22:19.050
  • TIME.
  • 01:22:19.050 --> 01:22:19.190
  • "I JUST TOLD HER TO SHUT UP."
  • 01:22:19.190 --> 01:22:20.260
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:22:20.260 --> 01:22:21.120
  • NOW, YOU WOULD SAY: WELL, LEON,
  • 01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:22.050
  • DID YOU USE A VERSE?
  • 01:22:22.050 --> 01:22:22.280
  • DID YOU FAST AND PRAY FOR THREE
  • 01:22:22.280 --> 01:22:24.250
  • DAYS?
  • 01:22:24.250 --> 01:22:26.050
  • DID YOU SAY, "IN THE NAME OF
  • 01:22:26.050 --> 01:22:27.050
  • JESUS CHRIST" AND--
  • 01:22:27.050 --> 01:22:28.210
  • NO, I JUST TOLD HER TO SHUT UP.
  • 01:22:28.210 --> 01:22:29.130
  • WHY?
  • 01:22:29.130 --> 01:22:30.110
  • BECAUSE I'M A CHILD OF THE KING
  • 01:22:30.110 --> 01:22:31.170
  • AND MY JOB WAS TO TRANSPORT
  • 01:22:31.170 --> 01:22:32.290
  • THAT WOMAN BACK TO THAT
  • 01:22:32.290 --> 01:22:34.110
  • HOSPITAL.
  • 01:22:34.110 --> 01:22:34.280
  • AND YOU ARE NOT GONNA PUT ON A
  • 01:22:34.280 --> 01:22:36.020
  • SHOW IN FRONT OF ME, SO SHUT
  • 01:22:36.020 --> 01:22:37.010
  • UP.
  • 01:22:37.010 --> 01:22:38.110
  • [LAURIE LAUGHS]
  • 01:22:38.110 --> 01:22:39.170
  • THE ENEMY HAS TO OBEY YOU.
  • 01:22:39.170 --> 01:22:40.260
  • TO ME, THAT'S SPIRIT
  • 01:22:40.260 --> 01:22:42.110
  • CONTEMPORARY.
  • 01:22:42.110 --> 01:22:42.260
  • I DIDN'T NEED TO PUT ON A BIG
  • 01:22:42.260 --> 01:22:43.260
  • OL' SHOW, ANOINT HER WITH HOLY
  • 01:22:43.260 --> 01:22:44.180
  • OIL, OR HOLY SHOCK.
  • 01:22:44.180 --> 01:22:45.240
  • OR, PUT SOME KIND OF A BIG
  • 01:22:45.240 --> 01:22:46.220
  • RELIGIOUS--
  • 01:22:46.220 --> 01:22:47.120
  • I JUST PUT MY FACE BY HER EAR
  • 01:22:47.120 --> 01:22:48.250
  • AND TOLD HER TO SHUT UP.
  • 01:22:48.250 --> 01:22:49.200
  • [SNAPS FINGERS]
  • 01:22:49.200 --> 01:22:50.050
  • AND I'VE OFTEN, IN SITUATIONS,
  • 01:22:50.050 --> 01:22:51.110
  • JUST SPOKEN A WORD, VERY
  • 01:22:51.110 --> 01:22:52.130
  • CONTEMPORARY, DIDN'T PUT ON A
  • 01:22:52.130 --> 01:22:53.280
  • BIG SHOW, AND THINGS JUST
  • 01:22:53.280 --> 01:22:55.140
  • CHANGE.
  • 01:22:55.140 --> 01:22:56.110
  • GOD LOVES YOU.
  • 01:22:56.110 --> 01:22:58.040
  • GOD CARES ABOUT YOU.
  • 01:22:58.040 --> 01:22:59.290
  • I'M BELIEVING GOD THAT
  • 01:22:59.290 --> 01:23:01.060
  • EVERYWHERE YOU GO NOW, THAT YOU
  • 01:23:01.060 --> 01:23:03.010
  • JUST SENSE, LIKE WE TALKED
  • 01:23:03.010 --> 01:23:04.130
  • ABOUT, "HMMM...NOW, THAT PERSON
  • 01:23:04.130 --> 01:23:05.190
  • JUST STANDS OUT TO ME."
  • 01:23:05.190 --> 01:23:07.210
  • JUST CASUALLY MAKE YOUR WAY AND
  • 01:23:07.210 --> 01:23:08.290
  • GET INTO A CONVERSATION.
  • 01:23:08.290 --> 01:23:10.020
  • MAKE A NEW FRIEND.
  • 01:23:10.020 --> 01:23:11.090
  • GOD WILL GUIDE YOU IN HOW TO
  • 01:23:11.150 --> 01:23:14.150
  • SPEAK AND IN WHAT TO SAY.
  • 01:23:14.150 --> 01:23:16.100
  • WELL, MAN, THIS HAS BEEN FUN.
  • 01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:17.260
  • - LAURIE: YEAH.
  • 01:23:17.260 --> 01:23:18.260
  • - LEON: JUST TALKING ABOUT IT.
  • 01:23:18.260 --> 01:23:19.200
  • - MATT: YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE
  • 01:23:19.200 --> 01:23:20.100
  • JUST KIND OF COMPLETING THIS
  • 01:23:20.100 --> 01:23:21.170
  • MINISTRY SEGMENT, IT WOULD
  • 01:23:21.170 --> 01:23:22.200
  • ALMOST BE-- WHAT I THINK I'M
  • 01:23:22.200 --> 01:23:25.030
  • TAKING AWAY IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE
  • 01:23:25.030 --> 01:23:26.250
  • WANTING US TO LEARN AND KNOW IS
  • 01:23:26.250 --> 01:23:28.290
  • THAT EVEN WHEN A VERY DRAMATIC
  • 01:23:28.290 --> 01:23:31.160
  • THING HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE OF
  • 01:23:31.160 --> 01:23:33.020
  • KNOWING SOMETHING AND YOU
  • 01:23:33.020 --> 01:23:35.140
  • SENSING THE WORD "SUICIDE" AND
  • 01:23:35.140 --> 01:23:37.260
  • THE MAN THAT WAS AT YOUR FRONT
  • 01:23:37.260 --> 01:23:39.180
  • DOOR, YOU KNOW, YOU WEREN'T
  • 01:23:39.180 --> 01:23:40.270
  • SURE.
  • 01:23:40.270 --> 01:23:41.190
  • - LEON: NO.
  • 01:23:41.190 --> 01:23:42.190
  • - MATT: YOU WEREN'T-- YOU
  • 01:23:42.190 --> 01:23:43.090
  • KNOW--
  • 01:23:43.090 --> 01:23:44.270
  • AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE
  • 01:23:44.270 --> 01:23:46.140
  • TALKED ABOUT THOSE EXPERIENCES
  • 01:23:46.230 --> 01:23:49.230
  • IN A MORE DRAMATIC WAY THAT
  • 01:23:49.230 --> 01:23:50.180
  • SEPARATED US FROM THE AVERAGE
  • 01:23:50.180 --> 01:23:51.250
  • PERSON.
  • 01:23:51.250 --> 01:23:53.220
  • - LEON: YES...SO GOOD.
  • 01:23:53.220 --> 01:23:54.100
  • - MATT: SO, YOU KNOW,
  • 01:23:54.100 --> 01:23:55.010
  • INCORRECTLY, YOU WOULD HAVE
  • 01:23:55.010 --> 01:23:56.160
  • SAID: "A GUY SHOWED UP AT MY
  • 01:23:56.160 --> 01:23:58.000
  • DOOR AND I MINISTERED TO HIM
  • 01:23:58.000 --> 01:23:59.210
  • ABOUT SUICIDE.
  • 01:23:59.210 --> 01:24:00.270
  • HE HAD NO IDEA.
  • 01:24:00.270 --> 01:24:01.290
  • I HAD A WORD IMMEDIATELY."
  • 01:24:01.290 --> 01:24:03.040
  • YOU KNOW -- BAH, BAH, BAH.
  • 01:24:03.040 --> 01:24:04.040
  • BUT YOU SIMPLY JUST SIMPLY KIND
  • 01:24:04.040 --> 01:24:06.250
  • OF HEARD A WORD AND BY FAITH
  • 01:24:06.250 --> 01:24:08.250
  • ACTED ON IT.
  • 01:24:08.250 --> 01:24:10.060
  • - LEON: YES.
  • 01:24:10.060 --> 01:24:11.070
  • - MATT: AND WE HAVEN'T DONE
  • 01:24:11.070 --> 01:24:12.160
  • TEACHING THAT WAY.
  • 01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:13.120
  • WE'VE DONE IT IN A WAY WHERE WE
  • 01:24:13.120 --> 01:24:15.000
  • HAVE STARTED PUTTING, YOU KNOW,
  • 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.160
  • PRIEST GARMENTS ON.
  • 01:24:17.160 --> 01:24:18.130
  • - LEON: YEAH.
  • 01:24:18.130 --> 01:24:19.120
  • - MATT: AND THEN WE STARTED
  • 01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:20.150
  • PUTTING CARDINAL HATS ON.
  • 01:24:20.150 --> 01:24:22.100
  • AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT SOME
  • 01:24:22.100 --> 01:24:23.220
  • POINT, EVEN SOME POPE HATS
  • 01:24:23.220 --> 01:24:26.020
  • ON -- THE FIVEFOLD MINISTRY
  • 01:24:26.020 --> 01:24:28.020
  • GIFTS THAT WERE REALLY RESERVED
  • 01:24:28.020 --> 01:24:29.240
  • IN THE OLD TESTAMENT FOR JUST
  • 01:24:29.240 --> 01:24:31.160
  • THE KINGS, THE PRIESTS, AND THE
  • 01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:32.080
  • PROPHETS.
  • 01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:35.010
  • AND, THAT'S REALLY UNPACKING
  • 01:24:35.010 --> 01:24:37.280
  • CORRECT THEOLOGY IN OUR DAY AND
  • 01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:39.110
  • AGE.
  • 01:24:39.110 --> 01:24:40.020
  • AND, LEON -- AMAZING.
  • 01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:42.080
  • - LAURIE: IT'S FOR US, TOO.
  • 01:24:42.080 --> 01:24:45.060
  • - MATT: SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY IS
  • 01:24:45.060 --> 01:24:45.280
  • THE MESSAGE.
  • 01:24:45.280 --> 01:24:46.130
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S THE GOOD
  • 01:24:46.130 --> 01:24:47.030
  • NEWS.
  • 01:24:47.030 --> 01:24:48.220
  • - MATT: "THE SPIRIT
  • 01:24:48.220 --> 01:24:49.080
  • CONTEMPORARY LIFE" IS THE
  • 01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:50.020
  • AND "SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY" IS
  • 01:24:53.020 --> 01:24:53.220
  • THE TELEVISION BROADCAST THAT
  • 01:24:53.220 --> 01:24:54.140
  • AIRS RIGHT HERE ON TBN.
  • 01:24:54.140 --> 01:24:56.020
  • AND SO, LAST 30 SECONDS OR SO,
  • 01:24:56.020 --> 01:24:57.120
  • FINAL THOUGHT, FINAL WORD TO
  • 01:24:57.120 --> 01:24:58.130
  • THE AUDIENCE THAT'S BEEN
  • 01:24:58.130 --> 01:25:01.040
  • MINISTERED TO, TAUGHT TO?
  • 01:25:01.220 --> 01:25:04.220
  • - LEON: YEAH, IF THEY JUST
  • 01:25:04.220 --> 01:25:05.120
  • TUNED IN, AND YOU HEARD ME MAKE
  • 01:25:05.120 --> 01:25:06.040
  • STATEMENTS THAT I HAVEN'T
  • 01:25:06.040 --> 01:25:07.090
  • QUALIFIED, I WANNA ENCOURAGE
  • 01:25:07.090 --> 01:25:08.090
  • YOU TO HEAR THE WHOLE TEACHING
  • 01:25:08.090 --> 01:25:09.060
  • ON THIS.
  • 01:25:11.270 --> 01:25:14.270
  • BECAUSE, WE'VE BLASTED SOME OF
  • 01:25:14.270 --> 01:25:15.190
  • THE THOUGHTS OUT VERY QUICKLY.
  • 01:25:15.190 --> 01:25:16.110
  • I MEAN, I LOVE THE FIVEFOLD
  • 01:25:16.110 --> 01:25:17.010
  • MINISTRY.
  • 01:25:17.010 --> 01:25:17.120
  • THAT'S WHAT GOD'S CALLED ME TO.
  • 01:25:17.120 --> 01:25:18.040
  • AND, SO, JUST CHECK INTO IT.
  • 01:25:18.040 --> 01:25:19.180
  • MAKE SURE THAT YOU EMBRACE AND
  • 01:25:19.180 --> 01:25:20.130
  • JUST KEEP MOVING.
  • 01:25:20.130 --> 01:25:22.250
  • GOD WANTS TO USE PEOPLE IN A
  • 01:25:22.250 --> 01:25:23.190
  • STUNNING WAY.
  • 01:25:23.190 --> 01:25:25.100
  • THIS IS THE NEXT MOVE.
  • 01:25:25.100 --> 01:25:26.260
  • ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS
  • 01:25:26.260 --> 01:25:28.010
  • WE'RE GONNA SEE TOUCH THE
  • 01:25:28.010 --> 01:25:29.270
  • PLANET IS SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY.
  • 01:25:29.270 --> 01:25:30.190
  • IT'S WHO JESUS WAS.
  • 01:25:30.190 --> 01:25:31.230
  • IT'S WHO HOLY SPIRIT IS.
  • 01:25:31.230 --> 01:25:33.060
  • - LAURIE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 01:25:33.060 --> 01:25:35.090
  • - MATT: WHEN I THINK OF LEON
  • 01:25:35.090 --> 01:25:36.000
  • FONTAINE AND I THINK OF SPIRIT
  • 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:36.220
  • CONTEMPORARY, I THINK OF
  • 01:25:36.220 --> 01:25:37.110
  • COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS BECAUSE I
  • 01:25:37.110 --> 01:25:39.000
  • MET YOU HERE.
  • 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:40.190
  • - LEON: THAT'S TRUE.
  • 01:25:40.190 --> 01:25:41.060
  • - MATT: MY DAD AND I SAT IN A
  • 01:25:41.130 --> 01:25:44.130
  • ROOM WITH YOU AND GOT TO KNOW--
  • 01:25:44.130 --> 01:25:46.120
  • AND I REMEMBER HIM SAYING,
  • 01:25:46.120 --> 01:25:47.080
  • "THIS IS THE NEXT MOVE."
  • 01:25:47.080 --> 01:25:49.040
  • AND...AMAZING JOB, LEON.
  • 01:25:49.040 --> 01:25:51.060
  • "SPIRIT CONTEMPORARY."
  • 01:25:51.060 --> 01:25:52.260
  • WATCH IT ON TBN.
  • 01:25:52.260 --> 01:25:53.240
  • GET THE BOOK.
  • 01:25:53.240 --> 01:25:54.270
  • WATCH THE TV SHOW.
  • 01:25:54.270 --> 01:25:57.090
  • IT IS A MESSAGE FOR OUR
  • 01:25:57.090 --> 01:25:58.000
  • GENERATION.
  • 01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.150
  • WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
  • 01:26:00.150 --> 01:26:01.030
  • THANK YOU, LEON.
  • 01:26:01.030 --> 01:26:01.270
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: WE'RE SO
  • 01:26:04.200 --> 01:26:05.100
  • GLAD YOU'VE BEEN WITH US FOR
  • 01:26:05.100 --> 01:26:06.010
  • "PRAISE THE LORD."
  • 01:26:06.010 --> 01:26:06.240
  • TBN HAS A WORLDWIDE MINISTRY.
  • 01:26:06.240 --> 01:26:08.190
  • WE NEED YOUR LOVE GIFTS, LARGE
  • 01:26:08.190 --> 01:26:09.270
  • OR SMALL, TO HELP KEEP THE
  • 01:26:09.270 --> 01:26:12.060
  • GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST GOING
  • 01:26:12.060 --> 01:26:13.200
  • AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 01:26:13.200 --> 01:26:14.110
  • IF YOU HAVEN'T ASKED CHRIST
  • 01:26:21.230 --> 01:26:22.260
  • INTO YOUR LIFE, CALL OUR PRAYER
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  • PARTNER NOW AND PRAY TO RECEIVE
  • 01:26:24.060 --> 01:26:25.270
  • JESUS AS SAVIOR AND LORD.
  • 01:26:25.280 --> 01:26:28.280
  • NOW, UNTIL NEXT TIME, REMEMBER
  • 01:26:28.280 --> 01:26:30.100
  • PRAISE...
  • 01:26:38.020 --> 01:26:41.020
  • PRAISE THE LORD!
  • 01:26:42.250 --> 01:26:45.250
  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: THIS PROGRAM
  • 01:26:51.040 --> 01:26:54.040
  • HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU THROUGH
  • 01:26:54.040 --> 01:26:54.280
  • THE PRAYERS AND CONTRIBUTIONS
  • 01:26:54.280 --> 01:26:55.210
  • OF OUR FAITHFUL PARTNERS
  • 01:26:55.210 --> 01:26:56.110
  • THROUGHOUT NORTH AMERICA AND
  • 01:26:56.110 --> 01:26:57.030