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Praise | Sheila Walsh | 1/10/19

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January 10, 2019

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Bil Cornelius hosts Sheila Walsh.

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Praise | Sheila Walsh | 1/10/19

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- MALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT, ON
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"PRAISE": FROM DALLAS...
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AUTHOR, SPEAKER, AND BIBLE
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TEACHER...
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SHEILA WALSH.
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[MUSIC]
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AND, NOW, BIL CORNELIUS.
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- BIL CORNELIUS: WELCOME!
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IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
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ON THIS EDITION OF "PRAISE," WE
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HAVE AN AMAZING GUEST WITH US.
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YOU'RE GONNA ABSOLUTELY LOVE
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THIS PROGRAM.
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YOU'RE GONNA BE FILLED WITH THE
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HOPE OF GOD, TODAY.
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I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE
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WITH US.
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WE HAVE SHEILA WALSH WITH US.
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AUTHOR, SPEAKER, TRAVELS THE
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WORLD PREACHING AND SINGING.
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I MEAN, SHE'S GOT DOUBLE THE
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GIFTS.
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I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BY
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THAT.
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THIS GIRL CAN DO IT ALL.
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WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT TIME.
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AND YOU'RE GONNA GET THE
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ENCOURAGEMENT THAT YOU NEED.
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[MUSIC]
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER:
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SHEILA WALSH:
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A SCOTTISH-BORN EVANGELIST
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WHO LOVES TO TEACH GOD'S WORD
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AND SHARE HOW HE MET
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HER AT HER LOWEST POINT AND
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LIFTED HER UP AGAIN.
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HER MESSAGE IS SIMPLE:
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GOD IS FOR YOU.
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- SHEILA WALSH: THERE'S
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NOTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE,
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NOTHING YOU'VE EVER SAID,
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NO PLACE YOU'VE EVER GONE, EVEN
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IF IT WAS LAST NIGHT,
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THAT HAS REMOVED YOU
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FROM THE POWER OF
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THE LOVE OF GOD.
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- FEMALE VOICEOVER: SHEILA, AN
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AVID WRITER, HAS AUTHORED
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SEVERAL BOOKS WITH MORE THAN
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5 MILLION IN PRINT, INCLUDING,
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"IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY:
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MOVING FORWARD ONE DAY AT A
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TIME."
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SHE'S ALSO THE CO-HOST OF THE
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TELEVISION PROGRAM
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"LIFE TODAY,"
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WITH OVER 300 MILLION
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VIEWERS DAILY.
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SHEILA LOVES TO SUPPORT
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MISSIONS THAT PROVIDE FOOD,
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MEDICAL SUPPORT, AND PROTECTION
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FROM SEXUAL SLAVERY FOR THOSE
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IN NEED.
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FOR HER, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY
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SHEILA WALSH.
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- BIL: IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE
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YOU!
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- SHEILA: IT'S FUN TO BE HERE
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WITH YOU.
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- BIL: WELL, THANKS SO MUCH.
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THIS IS-- THIS IS REALLY AN
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HONOR.
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YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A HERO OF THE
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FAITH TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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- SHEILA: OH, THANK YOU...
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- BIL: NO, IT'S TRUE.
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IT REALLY IS.
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AND I KNOW-- I GOTTA BE HONEST
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-- MY WIFE IS A LITTLE JEALOUS
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THAT I GOT TO COME AND DO THIS
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INTERVIEW WITH YOU AND JUST
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TALK WITH YOU.
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AND SO, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU
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HERE.
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THIS IS REALLY GONNA BE A
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SPECIAL PROGRAM.
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AND, I KNOW YOU HAVE AN AMAZING
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NEW BOOK.
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BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, THOUGH,
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YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK: MAN, MY
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LIFE...IF IT WAS ONLY AS GREAT
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AS SHEILA WALSH'S.
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[SHEILA LAUGHS]
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I MEAN, EVERYTHING MUST JUST GO
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PERFECT FOR HER GROWIN' UP.
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IT JUST MUST HAVE BEEN ALL ROSY
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AND GREAT.
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BUT I WANT YOU TO TELL US THE
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REAL STORY.
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WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE AND
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TELL US HOW GOD BROUGHT YOU TO
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- SHEILA: WELL, I WAS BORN IN
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THE WEST COAST OF SCOTLAND, A
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SMALL FISHING VILLAGE, AND I
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WAS BORN TO A MOM AND DAD WHO
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LOVED JESUS, WHICH WOULDN'T BE
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BUT IN SCOTLAND, AT THAT POINT,
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LESS THAN 3 PERCENT OF OUR
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POPULATION EVEN WENT TO CHURCH.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: SO, TO HAVE A MOM
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AND DAD WHO DIDN'T JUST GO TO
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CHURCH BUT WHO REALLY LOVED
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JESUS WAS SUCH A GIFT.
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MY SISTER, WHO'S TWO YEARS
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OLDER -- SHE'S KIND OF WHAT
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EVERY MOTHER HOPES FOR.
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YOU KNOW, SHE LIKED ALL
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THE KIND OF RIBBONS AND
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"STICKY-OUTTY" DRESSES.
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BUT I WAS A TOMBOY, SO I ADORED
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MY DAD.
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I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOBODY ON
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THIS EARTH QUITE LIKE MY
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FATHER.
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UM, BUT, WHEN I WAS ABOUT
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5 YEARS OLD, MY FATHER HAD A
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MASSIVE BRAIN ANEURISM
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WHICH CHANGED HIS PERSONALITY.
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AND HE WENT FROM BEING THIS
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WARM, LOVING DAD TO A CONFUSED
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AND ULTIMATELY VIOLENT
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STRANGER.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND THE LAST DAY I
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EVER SAW MY DAD, I TURNED JUST
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IN TIME TO SEE THAT HE WAS
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ABOUT TO BRING HIS CANE DOWN ON
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MY SKULL.
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AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I
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PUSHED IT OR PULLED IT, BUT, HE
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LOST HIS BALANCE AND LAY ON THE
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GROUND JUST ROARING LIKE AN
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ANIMAL.
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AND THE LAST LOOK IN MY
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FATHER'S EYES WAS ONE OF
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ABSOLUTE HATRED.
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AND HE WAS TAKEN OFF THAT
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DAY TO WHAT WAS THEN
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CALLED OUR LOCAL LUNATIC
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ASYLUM.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: IT'S WHAT YOU CALL A
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PSYCH HOSPITAL THESE DAYS.
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HE WAS 34 YEARS OLD.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: BUT HE MANAGED TO
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ESCAPE ONE NIGHT AND HE DROWNED
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HIMSELF IN THE RIVER BEHIND THE
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HOSPITAL.
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AND, YOU DIDN'T TAKE CHILDREN
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TO FUNERALS IN SCOTLAND,
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TO A GRAVESITE.
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ALL I REMEMBER IS MY MOM COMING
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HOME IN A BLACK DRESS WITH A
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BLACK HAT ON AND TAKING EVERY
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SINGLE PICTURE OF MY FATHER OFF
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THE WALLS OR OFF THE TABLE AND
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PUTTING THEM IN A LITTLE
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SUITCASE, WHICH SHE LOCKED AND
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PUSHED UNDER THE BED, AND WE
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NEVER MENTIONED HIS NAME AGAIN.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: I THINK WE KNOW SO
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MUCH MORE NOW ABOUT HOW TO HELP
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CHILDREN PROCESS GRIEF.
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I THINK MY MOM THOUGHT, "I'LL
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LET SHEILA BRING THE
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CONVERSATION UP."
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- BIL: SURE.
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- SHEILA: SHE HAD NO WAY OF
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KNOWING THAT THERE WAS A
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QUESTION THAT BURNED INSIDE OF
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ME THAT NO ONE COULD ANSWER.
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WHAT DID MY DAD SEE IN ME THAT
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MADE HIM HATE ME SO MUCH?
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- BIL: UGH...
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- SHEILA: SO, I GREW UP WITH
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WHAT I CALL A PROFOUND SENSE OF
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SHAME.
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AND HERE'S HOW I DIFFERENTIATE
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BETWEEN SHAME AND GUILT.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- SHEILA: IF I SAID SOMETHING
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UNKIND TO YOU, I WOULD FEEL
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GUILTY UNTIL I COULD SAY:
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"LISTEN, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
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THAT WAS ALL MY FAULT."
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- BIL: RIGHT.
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- SHEILA: SO, GUILT TELLS ME
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I'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG.
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- BIL: RIGHT.
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- SHEILA: SHAME TELLS ME I AM
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SOMETHING WRONG.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND WHAT DO YOU DO
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WITH THAT?
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AND I REMEMBER THE NIGHT-- I
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GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST WHEN I
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WAS 11.
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MY MOM PRAYED FOR ME.
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AND SHE SAID SOMETHING THAT
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WOULD BE GOOD NEWS TO MOST
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PEOPLE.
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SHE SAID, "SHEILA, NOT ONLY IS
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CHRIST YOUR SAVIOR AND YOUR
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LORD, YOU HAVE A HEAVENLY
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FATHER WATCHING OUT FOR YOU,
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WATCHING OVER YOU."
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: BUT I REMEMBER AT 11
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THINKING: I'VE GOT ONE MORE
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CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.
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WHATEVER MY EARTHLY DAD SAW IN
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ME THAT MADE HIM HATE ME, MY
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HEAVENLY FATHER IS NEVER GONNA
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SEE IN ME.
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I'M GONNA BE THE PERFECT
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CHRISTIAN, IF IT KILLS ME.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND IT-- BUT IT--
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YOU KNOW, IT NEARLY DID.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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WOW.
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YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT
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CAN JUST PUT YOU IN SUCH A
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PERFORMANCE TRAP SO QUICK.
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- SHEILA: ABSOLUTELY.
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IT'S WHY I WENT TO SEMINARY
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WHEN I WAS 19.
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I WENT TO LONDON THEOLOGICAL
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SEMINARY TO TRAIN TO BE A
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MISSIONARY IN INDIA, 'CAUSE I
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COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING I
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WOULD HATE MORE.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: I ACTUALLY THOUGHT
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HOW PROUD OF ME GOD WOULD BE,
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THINKING: LOOK AT HER -- SHE'S
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TRAVELING, WHICH SHE HATES TO
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DO, GOING TO A COUNTRY WITH
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VERY LARGE CRAWLY BEASTIES, UM,
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ALL BECAUSE SHE LOVES ME.
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[LAUGHTER]
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WHAT A GIRL.
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- BIL: SO, IT'S LIKE TO PLEASE
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GOD--
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- SHEILA: YEAH!
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- BIL: --I CAN DO SOMETHING
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THAT I DON'T WANNA DO?
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- SHEILA: LIKE: WATCH ME,
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LORD.
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WATCH ME.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND GOD REDIRECTED
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MY STEPS.
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I ENDED UP WORKING WITH
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BILLY GRAHAM AND HIS CRUSADES.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND, THEN, UM, I
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GOT AN INVITATION TO BECOME
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PAT ROBERTSON'S CO-HOST ON
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"THE 700 CLUB"...
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- BIL: INCREDIBLE.
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- SHEILA: ...FOR FIVE YEARS.
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BUT INSIDE?
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I WAS STILL THE SAME SCARED
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LITTLE BROKEN GIRL WHO WOULDN'T
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LET ANYBODY GET CLOSE TO HER,
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IN CASE YOU SAW WHAT MY FATHER
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SAW.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- SHEILA: DO YOU KNOW IT'S
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POSSIBLE TO BE VERY WELL-KNOWN
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AND DESPERATELY LONELY?
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- SHEILA: THAT'S HOW I LIVED.
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- BIL: WOW.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S CRAZY -- YOU CAN
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BE RICH AND BE LONELY, YOU CAN
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BE MARRIED AND BE LONELY.
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
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- BIL: YOU CAN BE WORSHIPING
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GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, ON
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SUNDAY, AND BE LONELY.
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
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- BIL: IT'S AMAZING HOW THAT
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HAPPENS.
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NOW, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA ASK
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ABOUT SOMETHING, TOO.
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YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR MOM.
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SHE PROBABLY JUST DID THE BEST
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SHE COULD.
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- SHEILA: OH, ABSOLUTELY.
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MY MOM WAS AMAZING.
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- BIL: SHE PROBABLY JUST
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DIDN'T KNOW--
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I MEAN, NO ONE TALKED ABOUT
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MENTAL-HEALTH ISSUES...
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- SHEILA: NO.
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- BIL: ...AT LEAST THAT I
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REMEMBER UNTIL LAST --
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PROBABLY, WHAT?
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FIVE OR TEN YEARS.
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- SHEILA: AND PARTICULARLY IN
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SCOTLAND.
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I MEAN, IN SCOTLAND-- YOU KNOW,
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I WAS BROUGHT UP IN A VERY
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CONSERVATIVE--
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I MEAN, MY CHURCH -- MY
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GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER
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MADE THE COMMUNION TABLE.
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- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, WE CAME
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FROM THIS LONG LINE OF GODLY,
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STRONG WOMEN.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: BUT WE DIDN'T TALK
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ABOUT THE THINGS THAT REALLY
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HURT US.
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YOU KNOW, WE JUST CARRIED ON.
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BUT GOD IN HIS MERCY -- THAT'S
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WHAT BLOWS ME AWAY ABOUT THE
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, HE-- GOD
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KNEW I WAS JUST SURVIVING.
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AND HE SET UP A RESCUE PLAN
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THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE SIGNED
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UP FOR.
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BUT GOD'S PLANS ARE SO MUCH
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GREATER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE.
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- CASSIE: YEAH, YEAH.
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- SHEILA: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO
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ME WAS ONE MORNING ON LIVE
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TELEVISION, MY GUEST, INSTEAD
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OF ANSWERING MY QUESTION,
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TURNED THE TABLES AND SAID TO
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ME: "SHEILA, YOU SIT HERE EVERY
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DAY ASKING HOW WE'RE DOING.
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HOW ARE YOU DOING?"
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AND SHE MEANT IT KINDLY.
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BUT I WASN'T PREPARED FOR IT
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AND I HADN'T TIME TO PULL UP
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THAT WALL.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND I FELL APART ON
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NATIONAL TELEVISION.
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- BIL: HUH.
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- SHEILA: AND, BY THAT
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EVENING, I WAS IN THE LOCKED
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WARD OF A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
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- BIL: WOW.
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WOW.
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GOODNESS.
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SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING
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YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK
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GOD ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MAKE A
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GIANT MISTAKE, OR A FALL, OR A
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FAILURE, OR JUST KIND OF FALL
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APART IN A PUBLIC SETTING
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BECAUSE, THAT WAY, YOU CAN'T
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DENY IT OR HIDE IT ANY LONGER,
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SO NOW YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH
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IT.
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
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- BIL: SO, HERE YOU ARE IN THE
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PSYCH WARD, AND YOU'RE LIKE:
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I'M MISS CHRISTIAN LEADER
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EVERYONE LOOKS TO...AND MY LIFE
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IS CRUMBLING.
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WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND,
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AT THIS POINT?
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- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT WAS
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INTERESTING BECAUSE THE PERSON
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WHO WAS THE MOST SUPPORTIVE
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AND LOVING TOWARD ME WAS
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PAT ROBERTSON.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, HE WAS--
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I MEAN, HE WAS MY BOSS, HE WAS
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THE MAN I LOOKED UP TO, A
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MENTOR.
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HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE
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SAYING, "YOU KNOW, WE'RE
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TALKING ABOUT HEALING AND
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MIRACLES, HERE, AND YOU'RE
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FALLING OFF YOUR CHAIR."
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- SHEILA: BUT HE WAS THE MOST
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LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE.
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BUT ONE OF OUR SENIOR STAFF
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TOOK ME FOR A WALK AROUND OUR
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BUILDING BEFORE I HEADED TO
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THE HOSPITAL AND HE SAID:
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"YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
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IF PEOPLE FIND OUT WHERE YOU'RE
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GOING, THEY WILL NEVER TRUST
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YOU AGAIN, YOUR MINISTRY WILL
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BE OVER."
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: "YOU'RE THE WEAK
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LINK, HERE.
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YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY'S TRYING TO
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USE YOU TO DESTROY THIS
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MINISTRY."
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AND I FELT SO--
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I MEAN, I ALREADY FELT SO
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GUILTY.
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- BIL: YEAH, YEAH.
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- SHEILA: AND IT JUST MADE ME
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FEEL SO MUCH WORSE.
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AND HE SAID, "YOU NEED TO SAVE
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YOUR MINISTRY."
00:08:53.170 --> 00:08:54.010
AND I SAID--
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- BIL: HE MEANT IT GOOD.
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HE MEANT IT WELL, I'M SURE.
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- SHEILA: HE DID.
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BUT WHAT I SAID TO HIM WAS,
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"I'M NOT TRYING TO SAVE MY
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MINISTRY; I'M TRYING TO SAVE MY
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LIFE."
00:09:00.020 --> 00:09:00.120
- BIL: WOW.
00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:00.240
WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND THAT'S THE
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AMAZING THING ABOUT GOD.
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- BIL: WOW.
00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:04.130
THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
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[APPLAUSE]
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YOU KNOW, SHEILA, THE THING IS
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IS THAT I DON'T THINK YOUR
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SITUATION'S UNIQUE AT ALL.
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- SHEILA: MMH.
00:09:12.280 --> 00:09:13.120
- BIL: I THINK THIS IS
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SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY
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RESONATE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
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- AUDIENCE MEMBER: AMEN.
00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:16.190
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:09:16.190 --> 00:09:17.200
- BIL: BUT NOBODY WANTS TO SAY
00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.120
IT.
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- SHEILA: I KNOW.
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- BIL: IT'S THE ELEPHANT IN
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THE ROOM.
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
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YOU KNOW WHAT WAS INTERESTING
00:09:21.260 --> 00:09:22.190
WAS I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT
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THE FACT THAT THIS UNIT I WAS
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IN WAS A CHRISTIAN UNIT WITHOUT
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A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: SO, IT HADN'T
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OCCURRED TO ME THAT SOME OF
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THESE OTHER PATIENTS WOULD KNOW
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WHO I WAS.
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[BIL LAUGHS]
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AND THAT FIRST MORNING, YOU
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KNOW, THEY TAKE AWAY YOUR BELT,
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YOUR HOSE, YOUR MAKE-UP, YOUR
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HAIRDRYER -- ANYTHING YOU'D
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HURT YOURSELF WITH.
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I REMEMBER SAYING TO THE NURSE,
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"TRUST ME, I HAVE NO INTENTIONS
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OF BLOW-DRYING MYSELF TO
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DEATH."
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- BIL: RIGHT, RIGHT.
00:09:42.210 --> 00:09:43.080
- SHEILA: BUT SHE WAS NOT
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IMPRESSED.
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.210
- SHEILA: BUT THE NEXT
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MORNING, I PUT ON MY BATHROBE
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AND I WANDERED ALONG TO WHERE
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THE OTHER PATIENTS WERE.
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AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS
00:09:48.270 --> 00:09:49.270
WHEN...YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S
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TALKING UNTIL YOU WALK IN, AND
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THERE'S JUST LIKE...SILENCE.
00:09:54.020 --> 00:09:57.020
AND THIS ONE GUY ACTUALLY SAID,
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"ARE YOU SHEILA WALSH?"
00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:00.230
AND I SAID, "YEAH!"
00:10:00.230 --> 00:10:02.070
AND HE SAID, "WELL, WHAT ARE
00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:02.270
YOU DOING HERE?"
00:10:02.270 --> 00:10:03.110
[LAUGHTER]
00:10:03.110 --> 00:10:03.280
AND I SAID, "I'M A PATIENT."
00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:05.250
AND HE SAID, "YEAH, RIGHT."
00:10:05.250 --> 00:10:06.150
AND I SAID: "YOU THINK I'M HERE
00:10:06.150 --> 00:10:07.150
TO DO A DOCUMENTARY IN MY
00:10:07.150 --> 00:10:08.040
BATHROBE?
00:10:08.040 --> 00:10:10.140
I DON'T THINK SO."
00:10:10.140 --> 00:10:11.000
- BIL: WOW.
00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:11.190
- SHEILA: AND HE SAID
00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:12.080
SOMETHING THAT WAS HARD TO
00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.220
HEAR, BUT IT WAS PART OF MY
00:10:13.220 --> 00:10:14.230
HEALING.
00:10:14.230 --> 00:10:15.250
HE SAID: "HEY, I DON'T MEAN TO
00:10:15.250 --> 00:10:16.160
OFFEND YOU.
00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:17.260
WE ALL WATCH YOU EVERY MORNING.
00:10:17.260 --> 00:10:18.190
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING
00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:19.280
US."
00:10:19.280 --> 00:10:20.090
- BIL: WOW.
00:10:20.090 --> 00:10:20.260
- SHEILA: BUT WHEN YOU
00:10:20.260 --> 00:10:21.140
FINALLY FALL OFF YOUR SHELF...
00:10:23.020 --> 00:10:26.020
- BIL: YEAH.
00:10:26.020 --> 00:10:26.170
- SHEILA: ...AND JOIN THE REST
00:10:26.170 --> 00:10:27.090
OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE GOD BUT
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DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS,
00:10:27.290 --> 00:10:28.190
THOSE WHO ARE BEAUTIFULLY
00:10:28.190 --> 00:10:29.180
BROKEN BY CHRIST...
00:10:29.180 --> 00:10:31.230
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:32.110
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:32.250
WOW.
00:10:32.250 --> 00:10:33.190
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THE FIRST
00:10:33.190 --> 00:10:34.110
TIME I SHARED IN CHURCH SOME
00:10:34.110 --> 00:10:35.150
SHORTCOMINGS AND MY WIFE WAS
00:10:35.150 --> 00:10:38.140
LIKE, "PEOPLE ARE GONNA FREAK
00:10:38.140 --> 00:10:40.210
OUT THAT YOU STRUGGLE WITH THIS
00:10:40.210 --> 00:10:41.130
OR THAT."
00:10:41.130 --> 00:10:42.240
AND THE EXACT OPPOSITE
00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:43.120
HAPPENED.
00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:43.230
PEOPLE WERE DRAWN TO IT.
00:10:43.230 --> 00:10:45.170
I JUST BELIEVE GOD USES A
00:10:45.170 --> 00:10:46.060
BROKENNESS IN YOU TO THIS DAY
00:10:46.060 --> 00:10:48.230
THAT'S ATTRACTIVE.
00:10:48.230 --> 00:10:49.250
IT DRAWS PEOPLE TO YOUR
00:10:49.250 --> 00:10:50.270
MINISTRY, INTO YOUR WORDS.
00:10:50.270 --> 00:10:52.110
IT GIVES YOU MORE INFLUENCE,
00:10:52.110 --> 00:10:53.010
NOT LESS INFLUENCE.
00:10:53.010 --> 00:10:53.280
IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT
00:10:53.280 --> 00:10:54.200
WE THINK.
00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.010
- SHEILA: YEAH, AND I THINK WE
00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.050
NEED TO DECIDE WHO IS THE HERO
00:10:56.050 --> 00:10:57.240
OF OUR STORY.
00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.200
- BIL: MMH.
00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:00.060
- SHEILA: I'M NOT THE HERO OF
00:11:00.060 --> 00:11:00.270
MY STORY.
00:11:00.270 --> 00:11:01.080
JESUS IS THE HERO OF MY STORY.
00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.270
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:11:02.270 --> 00:11:03.140
SO GOOD.
00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:03.270
[APPLAUSE]
00:11:03.270 --> 00:11:04.150
- SHEILA: I'M NOT THE GOOD
00:11:04.150 --> 00:11:05.050
NEWS.
00:11:05.050 --> 00:11:05.140
HE'S THE GOOD NEWS.
00:11:05.140 --> 00:11:06.000
- BIL: LOVE THAT.
00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:06.150
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:11:06.150 --> 00:11:06.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:11:06.290 --> 00:11:07.110
WOW.
00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:08.130
NOW, YOU'VE WRITTEN A LOT OF
00:11:08.130 --> 00:11:10.040
BOOKS, BUT THIS ONE'S OBVIOUSLY
00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:11.160
MUCH MORE PERSONAL THAN
00:11:11.160 --> 00:11:12.240
PROBABLY ANY BOOK YOU HAVE.
00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:14.100
I MEAN, THIS IS--
00:11:14.100 --> 00:11:14.250
"IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY."
00:11:15.050 --> 00:11:18.050
I LOVE THAT TITLE.
00:11:18.050 --> 00:11:19.080
LIKE, I'M ALREADY THINKIN',
00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:20.240
"I'M STEALIN' THIS COPY
00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:21.260
AND TAKIN' THIS ONE
00:11:21.260 --> 00:11:22.120
HOME WITH ME."
00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:22.250
[SHEILA LAUGHS]
00:11:22.250 --> 00:11:23.140
THIS LOOKS INCREDIBLE.
00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:24.060
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW
00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:24.270
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FEEL LIKE
00:11:24.270 --> 00:11:26.040
THEY'RE NOT OKAY MOST OF THE
00:11:26.040 --> 00:11:27.010
- SHEILA: THE REASON I WROTE
00:11:28.270 --> 00:11:30.090
THAT WAS BECAUSE I'VE WRITTEN
00:11:30.090 --> 00:11:32.070
IN THE PAST ABOUT SOME OF MY
00:11:32.070 --> 00:11:32.270
STRUGGLES, ABOUT-- YOU KNOW, I
00:11:32.270 --> 00:11:34.280
WAS DIAGNOSED WITH SEVERE
00:11:34.280 --> 00:11:35.170
CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
00:11:35.170 --> 00:11:36.110
- BIL: YEAH.
00:11:36.110 --> 00:11:36.270
- SHEILA: BUT I WOULD GET SO
00:11:36.270 --> 00:11:37.180
MANY NOTES, FACEBOOK COMMENTS
00:11:37.180 --> 00:11:39.190
FROM PEOPLE SAYING: "THANK YOU
00:11:39.190 --> 00:11:41.080
FOR LETTING ME KNOW I'M NOT
00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:42.030
ALONE.
00:11:42.030 --> 00:11:42.190
BUT WHAT, NOW?
00:11:42.190 --> 00:11:43.270
I FEEL STUCK.
00:11:43.270 --> 00:11:45.020
I'M STRUGGLING."
00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:45.180
- BIL: YEAH.
00:11:45.180 --> 00:11:46.130
- SHEILA: SO, I WANTED TO POUR
00:11:46.130 --> 00:11:48.180
INTO THIS BOOK THE EIGHT THINGS
00:11:48.180 --> 00:11:50.040
THAT GOD HAS TAUGHT ME TO MOVE
00:11:50.040 --> 00:11:50.250
FORWARD IN LIFE.
00:11:50.250 --> 00:11:52.020
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:11:52.020 --> 00:11:52.250
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:11:52.250 --> 00:11:53.280
NOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND
00:11:53.280 --> 00:11:55.120
THE VERY THING YOU SAY, "THE
00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:56.030
WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP?
00:11:58.070 --> 00:11:59.060
I JUST SAW THAT AND I WAS LIKE,
00:11:59.060 --> 00:11:59.280
OKAY, I GOTTA KNOW.
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- SHEILA: FOR ME, THE FIRST
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STEP IS DARING TO HAVE A
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GUT-LEVEL, UNEDITED
00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:06.270
CONVERSATION WITH GOD.
00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:07.230
- BIL: WOW.
00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:08.060
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN,
00:12:08.060 --> 00:12:09.050
WE'RE AFRAID TO SAY WHAT WE
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REALLY THINK BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
00:12:10.130 --> 00:12:11.100
SOUND SPIRITUAL.
00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.030
BUT I BELIEVE TO THE LEVEL
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WE'RE WILLING TO BE HONEST WITH
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GOD IS AN INDICATION OF HOW
00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:17.150
MUCH WE ACTUALLY TRUST HIM.
00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:19.190
- BIL: WOW.
00:12:19.190 --> 00:12:20.040
- SHEILA: IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE
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TO BE CAREFUL, YOU HAVE
00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:22.080
MINIMIZED GOD.
00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:23.250
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:12:23.250 --> 00:12:24.120
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE
00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:25.080
GOD IS BIG.
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GOD CAN HANDLE.
00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.070
AND I THINK IT'S SUCH A--
00:12:27.070 --> 00:12:28.220
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PSALMIST
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DAVID, IF YOU LOOK AT JEREMIAH,
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IF YOU LOOK AT SO MANY PEOPLE
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WHO ARE LOOKED ON AS HEROES OF
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THE FAITH, BUT THEY POURED
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OUT-- JOB.
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THEY POURED OUT THE TRUTH.
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AND IT DIDN'T DISMISS THE
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PRESENCE OF GOD; IT INVITED THE
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PRESENCE OF GOD.
00:12:43.170 --> 00:12:45.080
- BIL: WOW.
00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:45.200
SO, JUST THAT RAW HONESTY.
00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:46.100
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:47.070
YEAH.
00:12:47.070 --> 00:12:48.090
- BIL: I LOVE HOW DAVID SAID,
00:12:48.090 --> 00:12:49.000
"SMITE MY ENEMIES."
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I LOVE THAT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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I'M LIKE...
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HE SAYS TO HIM, "SO, SMITE MY
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ENEMIES."
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AND THEN, BY THE END OF IT,
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HE'S LIKE, "OKAY, FINE, LORD,
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LOVE THEM, TOO."
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YOU KNOW?
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LIKE HE'S UPSET ABOUT IT.
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AND I THINK WE ALL CAN RELATE
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TO THAT.
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.060
- BIL: THAT'S HOW YOU REALLY
00:13:00.060 --> 00:13:00.270
FEEL SOMETIMES: I'M MAD AT THIS
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PERSON!
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:02.130
- BIL: THEY HURT MY FEELINGS!
00:13:02.130 --> 00:13:03.040
THEY BETRAYED ME!
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- SHEILA: YEAH, MY SON,
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CHRISTIAN -- HE'S NOW 22.
00:13:05.100 --> 00:13:07.150
HE'S A SENIOR AT TEXAS A&M.
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BUT WHEN HE WAS 5 YEARS OLD, MY
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FATHER-IN-LAW MOVED IN WITH
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US AFTER THE DEATH OF MY
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MOTHER-IN-LAW.
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AND CHRISTIAN ADORED HIS PAPA.
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AND HE AND I WERE THE ONLY TWO
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HOME THE NIGHT THAT WILLIAM
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DIED.
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AND, WE FOLLOWED THE AMBULANCE
00:13:19.110 --> 00:13:20.270
TO THE HOSPITAL.
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AND, BY THE TIME WE GOT THERE,
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MY FATHER-IN-LAW HAD-- WAS
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ALREADY HOME WITH JESUS.
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AND MY SON, FOR THE FIRST TWO
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OR THREE WEEKS DID WHAT I
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EXPECTED: HE CRIED A LOT.
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BUT THEN, ONE DAY, HE DID THIS
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STRANGE THING.
00:13:32.090 --> 00:13:32.280
WE HAD THIS HUMUNGOUS CAT WE'D
00:13:32.280 --> 00:13:35.000
ADOPTED FROM THE SHELTER.
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AND HE LOVED THIS CAT, BUT HE
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PUSHED LILY OFF THE SOFA.
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SO, I SAID TO HIM, "BABE, WHY
00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.040
DON'T YOU AND I GO FOR A WALK?"
00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:43.040
AND, AFTER A WHILE, I SAID TO
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HIM, "CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU
00:13:44.180 --> 00:13:45.100
ANGRY?"
00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:46.040
AND HE SAID: "YES, I'M ANGRY.
00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:46.290
YOU TOLD ME THAT GOD ANSWERS
00:13:46.290 --> 00:13:48.210
PRAYER.
00:13:48.210 --> 00:13:49.190
AND WHEN WE FOLLOWED THE
00:13:49.190 --> 00:13:51.040
AMBULANCE, I SAID, 'DEAR GOD,
00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:52.140
PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY PAPA.'
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AND HE DIED.
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SO, I DON'T LIKE GOD ANYMORE
00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:56.210
AND I AM NOT PRAYING."
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- BIL: WOW.
00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:59.180
- SHEILA: AND I SAID TO
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CHRISTIAN, "THAT IS TOTALLY
00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:01.000
UNDERSTANDABLE."
00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.100
- BIL: SURE.
00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:03.240
- SHEILA: "AND HERE'S A COUPLE
00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:04.160
OF THINGS: YOU GET TO BE ANGRY
00:14:04.160 --> 00:14:05.070
BUT YOU CAN'T HURT YOURSELF OR
00:14:05.070 --> 00:14:05.280
ANYONE ELSE."
00:14:05.280 --> 00:14:07.110
SO, I DROVE HIM TO THE SPORTS
00:14:07.110 --> 00:14:09.030
STORE AND I GOT HIM A PUNCHING
00:14:09.030 --> 00:14:10.200
BAG AND BOXING GLOVES.
00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:11.250
AND I SAID, "BABY, WHEN YOU'RE
00:14:11.250 --> 00:14:13.150
ANGRY, YOU HIT THAT THING TILL
00:14:13.150 --> 00:14:15.120
YOU'RE WORN OUT, BUT THEN YOU
00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.200
FALL INTO THE ARMS OF A GOD WHO
00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:19.010
LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO ALLOW YOU
00:14:19.010 --> 00:14:19.220
TO BE ANGRY."
00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.270
[APPLAUSE]
00:14:21.270 --> 00:14:22.120
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.000
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:23.140
I JUST--
00:14:23.140 --> 00:14:24.000
[APPLAUSE]
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I WANNA STOP ON THAT FOR A
00:14:25.030 --> 00:14:27.000
MOMENT.
00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.140
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SUICIDE HAS
00:14:28.140 --> 00:14:29.250
GOTTEN JUST...I CAN'T BELIEVE
00:14:29.250 --> 00:14:31.160
I'M GONNA USE THIS WORD, BUT
00:14:31.160 --> 00:14:34.020
IT'S GOTTEN POPULAR, AS IF IT'S
00:14:34.020 --> 00:14:34.240
A TREND.
00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.090
AND IT'S JUST-- IT'S SICK
00:14:35.090 --> 00:14:36.290
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD
00:14:36.290 --> 00:14:37.200
TODAY.
00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.090
I'M SURE EVERYONE KNOWS SOMEONE
00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:40.070
WHO HAS THOUGHT ABOUT, OR
00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:41.160
ATTEMPTED, OR ACTUALLY TAKEN
00:14:41.160 --> 00:14:43.040
THEIR LIFE!
00:14:43.040 --> 00:14:44.210
AND I'M JUST -- AS A PASTOR --
00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:45.180
I'M TIRED OF BURYING YOUNG
00:14:45.180 --> 00:14:46.170
PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR TOO YOUNG
00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:50.190
TO DIE.
00:14:50.190 --> 00:14:52.210
BUT IT'S NOT JUST YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:53.130
IT'S OLDER PEOPLE, TOO.
00:14:53.130 --> 00:14:54.010
SO, YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.
00:14:54.010 --> 00:14:54.220
THAT WAS SO POWERFUL HOW YOU
00:14:54.220 --> 00:14:55.130
SAID IT, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
00:14:55.130 --> 00:14:56.270
THE RIGHT IN YOUR ANGER TO HURT
00:14:56.270 --> 00:14:58.130
YOURSELF OR...OR SOMEONE ELSE.
00:14:58.130 --> 00:15:00.180
AND SO, THE BIBLE SAYS IN YOUR
00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:01.090
ANGER, DON'T SIN.
00:15:01.090 --> 00:15:03.110
WHAT DO YOU DO, THEN?
00:15:03.110 --> 00:15:04.240
WHAT'S THE PROPER RESPONSE WHEN
00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.270
- SHEILA: I THINK ONE OF THE
00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:09.040
MAIN THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS
00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:09.250
START SHINING THE BRIGHTEST
00:15:09.250 --> 00:15:11.120
LIGHT INTO THE DARKEST CORNERS
00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:12.260
OF THE CHURCH.
00:15:12.260 --> 00:15:14.140
BECAUSE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
00:15:14.140 --> 00:15:15.170
WE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT.
00:15:15.170 --> 00:15:17.130
- BIL: YEAH.
00:15:17.130 --> 00:15:17.260
- SHEILA: AND, WHAT I WRITE
00:15:17.260 --> 00:15:20.190
ABOUT IS THAT THE FIRST TIME
00:15:20.190 --> 00:15:21.150
THAT I TRIED TO END MY LIFE,
00:15:21.150 --> 00:15:23.000
I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.280
AND I WAS A STUDENT IN SEMINARY.
00:15:24.280 --> 00:15:26.010
- BIL: WOW.
00:15:26.010 --> 00:15:26.170
- SHEILA: I TOOK A TRAIN INTO
00:15:26.170 --> 00:15:27.090
LONDON ONE NIGHT, AND I WAS
00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:28.090
WALKING AROUND IN THE RAIN,
00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:30.150
THINKING, LORD, WHY DO I FEEL
00:15:30.150 --> 00:15:31.260
SO DESPERATE, SO ALONE, SO
00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:32.210
OVERWHELMED?
00:15:32.210 --> 00:15:35.050
AND I ACTUALLY STEPPED UP ONTO
00:15:35.050 --> 00:15:37.120
THE BRIDGE, LOOKING DOWN ONTO
00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.030
AND I FELT THIS VOICE SAYING,
00:15:41.050 --> 00:15:41.260
"JUMP, SHEILA.
00:15:41.260 --> 00:15:43.280
JUST JUMP.
00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:44.120
IT WON'T HURT.
00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.210
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT."
00:15:45.210 --> 00:15:47.040
AND WHAT SAVED ME THAT NIGHT,
00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:48.180
AND MANY NIGHTS INTO THE
00:15:48.180 --> 00:15:50.230
FUTURE, WAS ONE NAME --
00:15:50.230 --> 00:15:52.290
THE NAME OF JESUS.
00:15:52.290 --> 00:15:53.140
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:15:53.140 --> 00:15:54.110
[APPLAUSE]
00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:54.240
- SHEILA: CALLING ON THE NAME
00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:55.160
OF JESUS.
00:15:55.160 --> 00:15:56.180
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:57.040
THAT'S GOOD.
00:15:57.040 --> 00:15:57.160
I LOVE IT.
00:15:57.160 --> 00:15:57.280
[APPLAUSE]
00:15:57.280 --> 00:15:58.090
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN,
00:15:58.090 --> 00:15:59.090
WE-- WE KNOW THAT SCRIPTURE,
00:15:59.090 --> 00:16:00.060
"THOSE WHO CALL UPON THE NAME
00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:01.050
OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:01.250
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:16:01.250 --> 00:16:03.100
- SHEILA: BUT IT'S NOT JUST
00:16:03.100 --> 00:16:04.050
FOR THAT MOMENT OF SALVATION.
00:16:04.050 --> 00:16:04.260
WHEN YOU'RE REACHING FOR THAT
00:16:04.260 --> 00:16:05.240
BOTTLE AND YOU-- YOU WANNA PUT
00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.020
IT DOWN AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE
00:16:07.020 --> 00:16:08.250
STRENGTH, CALL ON THE NAME OF
00:16:08.250 --> 00:16:10.040
THE LORD.
00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:10.160
- BIL: HE'S STILL SAVING--
00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:11.240
- SHEILA: YES, HE'S STILL--
00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:12.150
- BIL: --EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY.
00:16:12.150 --> 00:16:13.230
- SHEILA: SALVATION MEANS TO
00:16:13.230 --> 00:16:14.180
SAVE AND TO HEAL.
00:16:14.180 --> 00:16:17.090
IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS.
00:16:17.090 --> 00:16:18.090
- BIL: YEAH.
00:16:18.090 --> 00:16:18.220
- SHEILA: BUT UNLESS WE START
00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:19.140
TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS IN
00:16:19.140 --> 00:16:20.050
THE CHURCH, AND MAKING--
00:16:20.050 --> 00:16:21.070
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ONE THING
00:16:21.070 --> 00:16:23.150
THAT HAPPENED THAT TOTALLY BLEW
00:16:23.150 --> 00:16:24.070
ME AWAY.
00:16:24.070 --> 00:16:24.250
I WAS SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE
00:16:24.250 --> 00:16:25.160
IN THE MIDWEST -- 5.000
00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:26.220
BEAUTIFUL WOMEN.
00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:29.210
UM, YOU KNOW, AND TYPICAL
00:16:29.210 --> 00:16:30.200
CHRISTIAN CONFERENCE: THREE
00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:31.100
DAYS; THEY HAVE THEIR
00:16:31.100 --> 00:16:32.200
CONFERENCE OUTFIT 1, CONFERENCE
00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:34.110
OUTFIT 2, CONFERENCE OUTFIT 3.
00:16:34.110 --> 00:16:35.090
AND THEY ALL LOOK PERFECT.
00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.240
BUT ON THAT FINAL NIGHT, I
00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.270
SHARED ABOUT WHAT I HAVE
00:16:38.270 --> 00:16:40.140
STRUGGLED WITH.
00:16:40.140 --> 00:16:42.050
AND I SAID, "IF ANYONE IN HERE
00:16:42.050 --> 00:16:43.040
IS A CUTTER, IF YOU'VE
00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:45.210
STRUGGLED WITH SUICIDAL
00:16:45.210 --> 00:16:46.220
THOUGHTS, I WANT YOU TO GET OUT
00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:48.100
OF YOUR SEAT AND JOIN ME."
00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:49.080
OVER 400 WOMEN AT THIS
00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.200
CHRISTIAN CONFERENCE, FROM 15
00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.210
TO 82.
00:16:54.210 --> 00:16:56.090
- BIL: WOW.
00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:56.270
WOW.
00:16:56.270 --> 00:16:57.170
- SHEILA: AND, FOR ME,
00:16:57.170 --> 00:16:58.050
SOMETHING ROSE UP IN ME THAT
00:16:58.050 --> 00:16:59.140
NIGHT.
00:16:59.140 --> 00:17:00.040
I'M ONLY 5-- ACTUALLY, I USED
00:17:00.040 --> 00:17:01.260
TO BE 5'3".
00:17:01.260 --> 00:17:02.280
I'M ONLY 5'2".
00:17:02.280 --> 00:17:03.140
I'M GOING, "NO, NO, I THINK I
00:17:03.140 --> 00:17:04.110
WAS 5'4" BEFORE."
00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:05.160
I'LL BE A GARDEN GNOME BY
00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:07.000
CHRISTMAS IS THE BASIC BOTTOM
00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:07.240
LINE.
00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:08.110
[LAUGHTER]
00:17:08.110 --> 00:17:09.090
- BIL: YOU'RE SO FUNNY.
00:17:09.090 --> 00:17:09.270
- SHEILA: BUT SOMETHING ROSE
00:17:09.270 --> 00:17:11.140
UP IN ME TO SAY: YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:17:11.140 --> 00:17:12.060
NO.
00:17:12.060 --> 00:17:12.140
IN JESUS' NAME, WE NEED TO
00:17:12.140 --> 00:17:14.080
STAND BESIDE EACH OTHER, COVER
00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:15.050
EACH OTHER, PRAY FOR EACH
00:17:15.050 --> 00:17:17.000
OTHER.
00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:17.170
FIND A COUPLE OF SAFE PEOPLE IN
00:17:17.170 --> 00:17:19.040
YOUR LIFE AND TELL THEM THE
00:17:19.040 --> 00:17:20.200
TRUTH.
00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:21.130
[APPLAUSE]
00:17:21.130 --> 00:17:21.250
- BIL: WOW.
00:17:21.250 --> 00:17:22.140
OKAY...
00:17:22.140 --> 00:17:22.270
I--
00:17:22.270 --> 00:17:24.050
[APPLAUSE]
00:17:24.050 --> 00:17:25.020
I DON'T THINK WE CAN MISS THIS
00:17:25.020 --> 00:17:26.140
MOMENT.
00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:27.020
THIS IS TOO GOOD OF A MOMENT.
00:17:27.020 --> 00:17:28.080
I KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE
00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:29.160
PEOPLE WATCHING THAT ARE
00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.120
SAYING: ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:32.110
I'M FLIPPING THROUGH THE
00:17:32.110 --> 00:17:33.130
CHANNELS AND I'M THINKING ABOUT
00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:34.270
ENDING MY OWN LIFE, RIGHT NOW.
00:17:34.270 --> 00:17:35.190
I'M THINKING ABOUT IT THIS
00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:36.210
WEEK.
00:17:36.210 --> 00:17:37.160
I HAVE A PLAN IN MY MIND.
00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.110
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT
00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:40.090
DESPERATE.
00:17:40.090 --> 00:17:40.260
MAYBE THAT'S YOU.
00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:44.150
I WANNA ASK YOU, SHEILA, WOULD
00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:45.060
YOU JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND PRAY
00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:45.280
FOR THAT PERSON--
00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:46.130
- SHEILA: I'D LOVE TO.
00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:47.010
- BIL: --AND HELP THEM FIND
00:17:47.010 --> 00:17:47.220
HOPE THAT--
00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:48.040
HOPE HAS A NAME AND HIS NAME IS
00:17:48.040 --> 00:17:48.260
JESUS.
00:17:48.260 --> 00:17:49.050
- SHEILA: YEAH...
00:17:49.050 --> 00:17:49.210
- BIL: WOULD YOU JUST LEAD
00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:50.140
THEM, RIGHT NOW?
00:17:50.140 --> 00:17:51.080
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IF YOU
00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:52.150
FEEL...DESPERATE IN THIS
00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:55.060
MOMENT, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS
00:17:55.060 --> 00:17:55.270
LIKE.
00:17:55.270 --> 00:17:56.130
AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE
00:17:56.130 --> 00:17:58.060
BEEN LEFT ALONE.
00:17:58.060 --> 00:17:59.290
MAYBE PROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE
00:17:59.290 --> 00:18:00.220
TO YOU AND THEY'VE BEEN BROKEN.
00:18:00.220 --> 00:18:01.180
I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT A GOD
00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:03.000
WHO KEPT HIS TOUGHEST PROMISE,
00:18:03.080 --> 00:18:06.080
WHICH WAS THAT HE WOULD SEND
00:18:06.080 --> 00:18:08.150
HIS SON TO DIE FOR US SO THAT
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WE COULD BE FREE.
00:18:10.110 --> 00:18:12.240
IF GOD KEPT THAT TOUGHEST
00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.250
PROMISE, TRUST ME, HE WILL KEEP
00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:16.190
ALL HIS PROMISES TO YOU.
00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:18.070
PSALM 34 SAYS THIS.
00:18:18.070 --> 00:18:20.260
THE LORD IS CLOSE TO THE
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BROKENHEARTED AND SAVES THOSE
00:18:23.110 --> 00:18:26.110
WHO ARE CRUSHED IN SPIRIT.
00:18:26.110 --> 00:18:28.200
IF YOU'RE CRUSHED, RIGHT NOW,
00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.170
WOULD YOU LET ME PRAY FOR YOU?
00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:31.060
FATHER GOD, THANK YOU THAT
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ALTHOUGH YOU ARE A MAGNIFICENT,
00:18:34.070 --> 00:18:37.070
GLORIOUS FATHER, YOU'RE ALSO
00:18:37.070 --> 00:18:40.020
INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN OUR
00:18:40.020 --> 00:18:42.110
LIVES.
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LORD, I ASK, RIGHT NOW, FOR ANY
00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:45.280
MAN, FOR ANY WOMAN, FOR ANY
00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:47.230
CHILD WHO FINDS THEMSELF IN A
00:18:47.230 --> 00:18:50.010
DESPERATE PLACE, LORD, I ASK,
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IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS,
00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:55.110
THAT WHEREVER THEY ARE YOU
00:18:55.110 --> 00:18:57.150
WOULD FLOOD THEIR ROOM WITH
00:18:57.150 --> 00:18:58.240
HOPE, THAT YOUR GRACE WOULD
00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.020
FALL UPON THEM,
00:19:02.020 --> 00:19:02.180
THAT YOUR GLORY WOULD
00:19:02.180 --> 00:19:03.190
SHINE UPON THEM, AND THAT
00:19:03.190 --> 00:19:04.270
THEY WOULD KNOW THAT YOU DIED
00:19:04.270 --> 00:19:06.130
FOR THEM, JESUS, SO THAT THEY
00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:08.090
HAVE A REASON TO GET UP AND
00:19:08.090 --> 00:19:10.140
SAY, "TODAY, I'M GOING TO LIVE
00:19:10.140 --> 00:19:12.030
BECAUSE I HAVE A GOD WHO WAS
00:19:12.030 --> 00:19:14.220
WILLING TO DIE FOR ME."
00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:17.110
THANK YOU, JESUS, THAT THERE
00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:20.000
ARE NO LIMITS TO YOUR LOVE.
00:19:20.050 --> 00:19:23.050
WE BLESS YOUR HOLY NAME.
00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.150
AMEN.
00:19:24.150 --> 00:19:26.140
- BIL: AMEN.
00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:26.290
WOW!
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ISN'T GOD GOOD?
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[APPLAUSE]
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AMAZING.
00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:30.180
AMAZING.
00:19:30.180 --> 00:19:31.290
ALL RIGHT...I JUST WANNA SAY
00:19:31.290 --> 00:19:33.060
RIGHT NOW, GOD HAS JUST TOUCHED
00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.080
YOUR LIFE, HE'S SPOKEN TO YOU.
00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:39.060
BUT YOU MAY SAY: "MAN, I JUST
00:19:39.060 --> 00:19:39.270
FEEL SO GREAT.
00:19:39.270 --> 00:19:40.240
I KNOW GOD IS THERE AND HE'S MY
00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.220
HOPE."
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YES, HE IS.
00:19:42.110 --> 00:19:43.180
BUT THERE'S GOING TO STILL COME
00:19:43.180 --> 00:19:44.130
DARK MOMENTS.
00:19:44.130 --> 00:19:45.190
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU
00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:47.200
TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND DO
00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:48.290
SOMETHING YOU'VE PROBABLY NEVER
00:19:48.290 --> 00:19:50.120
DONE BEFORE.
00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:51.220
BUT I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO
00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:53.010
GET THIS BOOK.
00:19:53.010 --> 00:19:54.170
YOU KNOW WHY?
00:19:54.170 --> 00:19:55.100
'CAUSE THIS IS FROM SOMEONE
00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:56.160
WHO'S BEEN WHERE YOU ARE, WHO'S
00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.120
LAID OUT THE STEPS OF HOW SHE
00:19:58.120 --> 00:19:59.280
GOT OUT OF THAT DEPRESSION, HOW
00:19:59.280 --> 00:20:01.270
SHE GOT THROUGH THAT ANXIETY
00:20:01.270 --> 00:20:04.040
AND THAT FEAR, AND HOW SHE
00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:04.270
LIFTED THAT SHAME OFF OF HER,
00:20:04.270 --> 00:20:07.020
THROUGH CHRIST.
00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:08.030
YOU NEED HELP DOING THAT.
00:20:08.030 --> 00:20:08.220
WE ALL DO.
00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:09.190
AND SO, NOW, THERE'S A RESOURCE
00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:11.180
JUST FOR YOU.
00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:12.130
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, IN FACT.
00:20:12.130 --> 00:20:13.120
RIGHT NOW, TBN, BECAUSE WE LOVE
00:20:13.120 --> 00:20:14.090
YOU, BECAUSE WE CARE FOR YOU,
00:20:14.090 --> 00:20:15.210
BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP YOU,
00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:16.100
RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE MAKING AN
00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:17.270
OFFER FOR YOU.
00:20:17.270 --> 00:20:19.110
THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
00:20:19.110 --> 00:20:20.070
FOR A GIFT OF $60 OR MORE, YOU
00:20:20.070 --> 00:20:22.140
GET TWO BOOKS FOR THE PRICE OF
00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:24.200
$60.
00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.200
YOU GET "OVERCOMER," BY
00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:28.020
DR. DAVID JEREMIAH.
00:20:28.020 --> 00:20:29.230
YOU ALSO GET SHEILA'S NEW BOOK,
00:20:29.230 --> 00:20:31.080
THE STEPS TO BE ABLE TO SET
00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:32.210
YOURSELF FREE, RIGHT NOW,
00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:33.280
"IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE OKAY."
00:20:33.280 --> 00:20:36.080
YOU SAY, "WELL, WHERE DOES THE
00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:36.290
REST OF THE RESOURCES GO?"
00:20:36.290 --> 00:20:38.030
HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE
00:20:38.030 --> 00:20:39.010
WATCHIN' THIS, RIGHT NOW?
00:20:39.010 --> 00:20:40.050
YOU'RE ACTUALLY BEING A MEDIA
00:20:40.050 --> 00:20:42.010
EVANGELIST WHEN YOU SUPPORT
00:20:42.010 --> 00:20:43.050
THIS MINISTRY, ANYWAY.
00:20:43.050 --> 00:20:44.210
SO, THE ONLY THING YOU'RE DOING
00:20:44.210 --> 00:20:45.260
IS YOU'RE GETTING RESOURCES TO
00:20:45.260 --> 00:20:47.010
HELP YOURSELF OR SOMEONE YOU
00:20:47.010 --> 00:20:49.060
LOVE AND YOU'RE ALSO HELPING
00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:51.150
TAKE THIS HOPE FURTHER THAN
00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:52.270
EVEN YOUR LIVING ROOM.
00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:53.220
ISN'T THAT GREAT TO BE ABLE TO
00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:54.170
DO THAT?
00:20:54.170 --> 00:20:54.290
PLEASE CALL TODAY.
00:20:54.290 --> 00:20:55.150
PICK UP THIS BOOK.
00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:56.120
GET THIS RESOURCE.
00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:57.120
SHEILA, I'M SO GLAD YOU WROTE
00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:58.200
THIS.
00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.060
AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS -- AND,
00:20:59.060 --> 00:21:00.220
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD
00:21:00.220 --> 00:21:02.240
TO FIND PURPOSE IN THAT MOMENT
00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.150
OF PAIN.
00:21:03.150 --> 00:21:03.270
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:21:03.270 --> 00:21:04.240
- BIL: BUT YOU'RE LIVING IN
00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:05.140
IT, NOW.
00:21:05.140 --> 00:21:05.250
AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE WILL
00:21:05.250 --> 00:21:06.260
COMFORT OTHERS WITH THE SAME
00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:08.290
COMFORT THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE
00:21:08.290 --> 00:21:10.120
RECEIVED.
00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:11.130
HERE YOU ARE SPEAKING ON THE
00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:13.090
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
00:21:16.040 --> 00:21:16.260
MENTIONED I JUST WANTED TO ASK
00:21:16.260 --> 00:21:17.180
YOU ABOUT.
00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:18.030
IT'S KIND OF PERSONAL, BUT YOU
00:21:18.030 --> 00:21:19.160
TOLD ME WE COULD GO THERE.
00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:20.050
- SHEILA: GO FOR IT.
00:21:20.050 --> 00:21:20.220
- BIL: ALL RIGHT.
00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:22.010
YOU TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU
00:21:22.010 --> 00:21:23.250
LOVE THE LORD, GOD'S REALLY
00:21:23.250 --> 00:21:24.150
HELPED YOU, BUT YOU DID SEEK
00:21:24.150 --> 00:21:25.060
MEDICAL HELP, TOO...
00:21:25.060 --> 00:21:25.260
- SHEILA: OH, YEAH.
00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:27.010
- BIL: ...THAT YOU RECOGNIZED
00:21:27.010 --> 00:21:27.240
YOU NEED TO MAKE SOME THINGS
00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:28.150
BALANCED IN YOUR OWN MIND, IN
00:21:28.150 --> 00:21:29.270
YOUR OWN BODY, AS WELL.
00:21:29.270 --> 00:21:31.180
AND I THINK A LOT OF CHRISTIANS
00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:32.100
FEEL LIKE: OH, NO, I'M A PERSON
00:21:32.100 --> 00:21:33.020
OF FAITH.
00:21:33.020 --> 00:21:35.260
I CAN'T DO THAT.
00:21:35.260 --> 00:21:36.280
I'M A CHRISTIAN.
00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:37.130
I SHOULDN'T-- I SHOULDN'T HAVE
00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:38.220
TO RELY UPON A DOCTOR OR
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MEDICINE.
00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:40.130
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:42.120
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:43.010
INTERESTING, BECAUSE, MY FIRST
00:21:43.010 --> 00:21:44.100
WEEK IN THE HOSPITAL, THE
00:21:44.100 --> 00:21:45.140
PSYCHIATRIST SAID, "I WANT TO
00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:46.200
PUT YOU ON MEDICATION."
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.190
I WAS LIKE, "NOPE...I DON'T
00:21:48.190 --> 00:21:49.090
WANT ANY OF YOUR HAPPY PILLS."
00:21:49.090 --> 00:21:50.130
THEY SAID: "NO, THOSE ARE
00:21:50.130 --> 00:21:51.040
STREET DRUGS.
00:21:51.040 --> 00:21:52.110
WE DON'T SELL THOSE HERE."
00:21:52.110 --> 00:21:53.140
[LAUGHTER]
00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:53.290
HE EXPLAINED THAT SOME
00:21:53.290 --> 00:21:55.020
PEOPLE -- THEIR BRAIN SIMPLY
00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:57.130
DOESN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH
00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:58.000
SEROTONIN TO BE ABLE TO
00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:58.180
FUNCTION WELL.
00:21:58.180 --> 00:21:59.130
AND I HAVE TO SAY, TO THIS DAY,
00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.130
I TAKE THAT LITTLE PILL EVERY
00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:03.230
MORNING--
00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:04.080
- BIL: GREAT.
00:22:04.080 --> 00:22:04.270
- SHEILA: --WITH A PRAYER OF
00:22:04.270 --> 00:22:05.180
THANKSGIVING THAT GOD HAS MADE
00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:06.090
IT POSSIBLE.
00:22:06.090 --> 00:22:07.080
- BIL: YEAH.
00:22:07.080 --> 00:22:07.210
- SHEILA: WE ALL HAVE
00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:08.080
BROKENNESS IN SOME AREA.
00:22:08.080 --> 00:22:09.220
FOR SOME OF US, IT'S OUR HEART,
00:22:09.220 --> 00:22:10.290
OR IT MIGHT BE OUR STOMACH WE
00:22:10.290 --> 00:22:13.020
HAVE ISSUES WITH.
00:22:13.020 --> 00:22:13.290
FOR ME, IT'S SIMPLY MY BRAIN
00:22:13.290 --> 00:22:14.270
DOESN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH
00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:15.240
CHEMICALS.
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.290
BUT WITH THAT LITTLE PILL, I'M
00:22:16.290 --> 00:22:18.020
ABLE TO SERVE GOD AND SERVE
00:22:18.020 --> 00:22:19.150
THOSE AROUND ME--
00:22:19.150 --> 00:22:21.150
- BIL: THAT'S GREAT.
00:22:21.150 --> 00:22:22.020
- SHEILA: --AND BE A GOOD MOM
00:22:22.020 --> 00:22:22.240
AND A GOOD WIFE.
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.080
- BIL: PRAISE GOD.
00:22:23.080 --> 00:22:23.240
YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.050
WE FORGET THAT IN THE BIBLE,
00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:27.130
LIKE, ELIJAH, WHEN HE WAS
00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:28.020
LITERALLY SUICIDAL -- HERE'S
00:22:28.020 --> 00:22:28.260
THIS GREAT PROPHET OF GOD, AND
00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:30.040
SAYS: "JUST TAKE MY LIFE, LORD.
00:22:30.040 --> 00:22:31.070
I'M NO BETTER THAN MY
00:22:31.070 --> 00:22:32.110
ANCESTORS."
00:22:32.110 --> 00:22:33.130
AND I LOVE HOW HE COMPARED
00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:34.020
HIMSELF TO OTHER PEOPLE.
00:22:34.020 --> 00:22:34.200
I KNOW NO ONE'S DOING THAT
00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:36.000
TODAY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:36.200
NO ONE'S COMPARING THEMSELVES
00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.060
TO OTHER PEOPLE
00:22:38.060 --> 00:22:38.210
UNREALISTICALLY, BUT LET'S JUST
00:22:38.210 --> 00:22:39.290
SAY THAT'S HAPPENING.
00:22:39.290 --> 00:22:40.280
[SHEILA LAUGHS]
00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:41.160
AND SO, WE LOOK AT OTHER
00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:42.070
PEOPLE'S LIVES, "THEY LOOK SO
00:22:42.070 --> 00:22:42.280
GREAT AND THEY'RE HAPPY, AND
00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:43.240
WHY AM I NOT AS HAPPY, AND AS
00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.220
COOL, AND WHY AM I MISSING
00:22:45.220 --> 00:22:46.110
OUT?" -- WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING
00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:47.220
AT THAT MOMENT, YOU KNOW.
00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:49.130
AND SO, WE JUST GET DOWN AND
00:22:49.130 --> 00:22:50.030
DISCOURAGED.
00:22:50.030 --> 00:22:51.190
SO, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT-- HE
00:22:51.190 --> 00:22:52.250
SAID, "ELIJAH, GO TAKE A NAP."
00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:54.050
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:22:54.050 --> 00:22:54.200
- BIL: THEN, HE WAKES HIM UP
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.250
AND HE SAYS, "NOW, EAT."
00:22:55.250 --> 00:22:56.130
SO, REST, REGIMENTING YOUR
00:22:56.130 --> 00:22:58.220
SCHEDULE, WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR
00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:00.180
BODY -- THAT'S SUCH A BIG DEAL.
00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:01.190
- SHEILA: AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:02.240
INTERESTING -- THE TIMING OF
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:03.240
THAT, TOO.
00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:04.070
IF YOU THINK THAT GOD JUST
00:23:04.070 --> 00:23:06.020
SHOWED UP IN THE MOST
00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:06.260
MIRACULOUS WAY ON MOUNT
00:23:06.260 --> 00:23:08.190
CARMEL...
00:23:08.190 --> 00:23:09.250
I MEAN, THE 400 PROPHETS OF
00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:12.000
BA'AL -- NOTHING HAPPENED.
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.180
AND YOU HAVE ONE MAN AGAINST
00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.200
THOSE 400 PROPHETS AND ALL THE
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.100
PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, AND GOD
00:23:17.100 --> 00:23:17.290
SHOWED UP.
00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:19.190
- BIL: MMH...
00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:20.140
- SHEILA: BUT THEN, ELIJAH
00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:21.150
THOUGHT, WELL, HE NOW
00:23:21.150 --> 00:23:22.020
UNDERSTOOD GOD...WHICH IS WHY
00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:23.070
HE RAN TO JEZREEL, TO WHERE
00:23:23.070 --> 00:23:25.080
AHAB AND JEZEBEL HAD THEIR
00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:26.220
PALACE, AND IMAGINING THAT NOW
00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:29.020
THEY'LL REPENT OR THE PEOPLE
00:23:29.020 --> 00:23:31.090
WILL THROW THEM OUT.
00:23:31.090 --> 00:23:31.250
AND THEY DID NEITHER.
00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:32.120
- BIL: YEAH.
00:23:32.120 --> 00:23:33.150
- SHEILA: SEE, HE DOESN'T
00:23:33.150 --> 00:23:34.040
UNDERSTAND GOD ANYMORE.
00:23:34.040 --> 00:23:35.040
- BIL: RIGHT.
00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:35.230
- SHEILA: AND HE RUNS INTO THE
00:23:35.230 --> 00:23:36.240
WILDERNESS AND SAYS, "TAKE MY
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.150
LIFE."
00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:38.170
AND IN THAT MOMENT, YOU WOULD
00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:39.240
THINK GOD WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT
00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.260
TO SAY, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH
00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:41.200
YOU?"
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.110
- BIL: YEAH.
00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:43.290
- SHEILA: BUT, INSTEAD,
00:23:43.290 --> 00:23:44.240
THERE'S THIS ANGEL OF THE LORD
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.190
WHO TOUCHES HIM GENTLY, WAKES
00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.000
HIM UP, HOME-COOKED MEAL, AND
00:23:49.050 --> 00:23:52.050
THEN SAYS, "REST AGAIN OR THIS
00:23:52.050 --> 00:23:52.270
JOURNEY WILL BE TOO MUCH FOR
00:23:52.270 --> 00:23:54.020
YOU."
00:23:54.020 --> 00:23:55.190
WE HAVE A GOD FULL OF GRACE AND
00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:57.010
MERCY.
00:23:57.010 --> 00:23:58.010
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:23:58.010 --> 00:23:58.160
SO GOOD.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.000
YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:23:59.000 --> 00:23:59.260
YOU SAID SOMETHING, TOO, THAT'S
00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:01.000
REALLY GREAT, AND, I'VE BEEN
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.010
WARNED OF THIS FOR MANY YEARS
00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.090
FROM OTHER PREACHERS THAT HAD A
00:24:03.090 --> 00:24:04.180
LOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO.
00:24:04.180 --> 00:24:06.070
THEY ALWAYS SAID, "WHEN YOU
00:24:06.070 --> 00:24:07.030
COME OFF A SPIRITUAL HIGH IS
00:24:07.030 --> 00:24:09.020
WHEN YOU GET ATTACKED,
00:24:09.020 --> 00:24:11.270
DEPRESSED, WHEN YOU STRUGGLE
00:24:11.270 --> 00:24:13.160
WITH THE ANXIETY."
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:14.020
SO, YOU THINK, BUT I JUST HAD
00:24:14.020 --> 00:24:15.270
THIS GREAT MOMENT.
00:24:15.270 --> 00:24:16.120
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:24:16.120 --> 00:24:17.110
- BIL: AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
00:24:17.110 --> 00:24:19.040
IT'S LIKE THE HOPE THAT WE HAD
00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:19.250
ISN'T FULFILLED -- 'CAUSE IT'S
00:24:19.250 --> 00:24:20.190
NOT GONNA BE FULFILLED ON THIS
00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:21.100
EARTH OR ANYTHING OF THIS
00:24:21.100 --> 00:24:21.290
EARTH.
00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:22.200
SPEAK TO THAT.
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:23.170
'CAUSE HERE YOU ARE TRAVELING,
00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:24.080
TOURING, SPEAKING, PREACHING,
00:24:24.080 --> 00:24:25.070
SINGING, AND YET, HERE YOU ARE
00:24:25.070 --> 00:24:27.020
WITH ALL THAT GOING ON.
00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:30.150
YOU HAVE HIGH MOMENTS AND THEN
00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:31.060
YOU CRASH.
00:24:31.060 --> 00:24:32.170
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:24:32.170 --> 00:24:33.010
- BIL: WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
00:24:33.010 --> 00:24:33.210
LIKE FOR YOU?
00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:34.040
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW WHAT'S
00:24:34.040 --> 00:24:34.230
INTERESTING TO ME IS WHEN I WAS
00:24:34.230 --> 00:24:35.150
A YOUNG CHRISTIAN, I USED TO
00:24:35.150 --> 00:24:36.130
THINK, GOSH, WOULDN'T IT BE SO
00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:37.190
AMAZING IF YOU ACTUALLY SAW THE
00:24:37.190 --> 00:24:38.110
MIRACLES OF JESUS.
00:24:38.110 --> 00:24:40.230
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE
00:24:40.230 --> 00:24:41.250
THOUGHT THAT?
00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:42.200
IF YOU WERE THERE WHEN SOME OF
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.120
THESE MIRACULOUS THINGS
00:24:44.120 --> 00:24:45.150
HAPPENED, HOW MUCH EASIER IT
00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:46.190
WOULD BE TO BELIEVE.
00:24:46.190 --> 00:24:47.190
- BIL: YEAH.
00:24:47.190 --> 00:24:48.020
- SHEILA: BUT I DISCOVERED
00:24:48.020 --> 00:24:49.030
MIRACLES DON'T CHANGE US.
00:24:49.030 --> 00:24:50.020
OBEDIENCE TO CHRIST CHANGES US.
00:24:50.020 --> 00:24:52.060
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD...
00:24:52.060 --> 00:24:53.100
- SHEILA: BECAUSE IF YOU THINK
00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:54.020
WHEN CHRIST CALLED LAZARUS
00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:55.020
FORTH FROM THE TOMB -- I MEAN,
00:24:55.020 --> 00:24:57.130
THIS MAN HAD BEEN IN THE TOMB
00:24:57.130 --> 00:24:58.040
FOUR DAYS.
00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.010
THAT WAS UNHEARD OF.
00:24:59.010 --> 00:25:00.090
ALL THE JEWS BELIEVED AT THAT
00:25:00.090 --> 00:25:01.140
POINT THAT FOR THREE DAYS GOD
00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.180
GAVE YOU A CHOICE: DO YOU WANT
00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:04.280
TO COME BACK OR NOT?
00:25:04.280 --> 00:25:06.090
BUT BY THE FOURTH DAY, THE DOOR
00:25:06.090 --> 00:25:07.250
SO, WHEN LAZARUS CAME OUT AFTER
00:25:09.270 --> 00:25:10.200
FOUR DAYS, PEOPLE ARE STUNNED.
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.030
BUT THEN YOU READ 50 PERCENT OF
00:25:12.030 --> 00:25:14.160
THEM FELL ON THEIR KNEES AND
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:15.130
WORSHIPPED.
00:25:15.130 --> 00:25:16.110
FIFTY PERCENT OF THEM WALKED
00:25:16.110 --> 00:25:17.050
AWAY--
00:25:17.050 --> 00:25:18.080
- BIL: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:18.280
- SHEILA: --AND SAID TO
00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:19.230
RELIGIOUS LEADERS, "YOU'VE GOT
00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:20.200
TO GET RID OF THIS GUY."
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:21.180
- BIL: WOW.
00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:22.000
- SHEILA: SO, IN MY OWN LIFE,
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:22.220
I'VE DISCOVERED THE MIRACULOUS,
00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:24.160
THE HIGH MOMENTS DON'T CHANGE
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.240
ME.
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.110
IT'S-- IT'S A DAILY OBEDIENCE
00:25:27.110 --> 00:25:28.290
TO CHRIST THAT CHANGES ME.
00:25:28.290 --> 00:25:30.130
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:25:30.130 --> 00:25:32.110
- SHEILA: SO, ON THOSE-- LIKE,
00:25:32.110 --> 00:25:33.190
WHEN I COME FROM A HIGH --
00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:34.250
LIKE, I WAS OVER IN AUSTRALIA
00:25:34.250 --> 00:25:35.250
AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF
00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:36.290
SPEAKING TO ALL THE HILLSONG
00:25:36.290 --> 00:25:38.140
SERVICES IN SYDNEY, AND--
00:25:38.140 --> 00:25:39.150
- BIL: INCREDIBLE.
00:25:39.150 --> 00:25:40.020
- SHEILA: AMAZING!
00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:40.180
- SHEILA: BUT WHEN I COME
00:25:41.290 --> 00:25:42.190
HOME, WHAT I DO IS I GRAB MY
00:25:42.190 --> 00:25:43.090
WELL-WORN BIBLE AND A CUP OF
00:25:43.090 --> 00:25:45.020
COFFEE, AND I SIT WITH--
00:25:45.020 --> 00:25:46.280
AND THERE'S SOME DAYS WHEN I
00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:49.240
FEEL, LIKE, SO FULL I COULD
00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.140
STUDY TWO CHAPTERS.
00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:51.270
BUT ON SOME DAYS WHEN I DON'T,
00:25:51.270 --> 00:25:53.160
LIKE THIS MORNING, PSALM 143,
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:56.220
VERSE 8.
00:25:56.220 --> 00:25:58.290
"LET THE MORNING BRING ME WORD
00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:01.220
OF YOUR UNFAILING LOVE..."
00:26:01.220 --> 00:26:03.050
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:26:03.050 --> 00:26:04.110
- SHEILA: "...FOR I HAVE PUT
00:26:04.110 --> 00:26:05.020
MY TRUST IN YOU.
00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.030
SHOW ME THE WAY I SHOULD GO,
00:26:06.030 --> 00:26:06.240
FOR TO YOU I ENTRUST MY LIFE."
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.160
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:26:12.100 --> 00:26:12.260
- SHEILA: NOW, PEOPLE SAY, "WE
00:26:12.260 --> 00:26:13.180
DON'T MEDITATE -- THAT'S ALL
00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:14.090
EASTERN STUFF."
00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:14.290
NO, THAT'S OUR STUFF.
00:26:14.290 --> 00:26:15.190
- BIL: YEAH.
00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:16.060
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, EASTERN
00:26:16.060 --> 00:26:17.080
RELIGION TELLS YOU TO EMPTY
00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:17.280
YOUR MIND.
00:26:17.280 --> 00:26:18.170
THE CHRISTIANS -- WE FILL OUR
00:26:18.170 --> 00:26:19.180
MIND WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:21.030
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:26:21.030 --> 00:26:22.050
[APPLAUSE]
00:26:22.050 --> 00:26:22.210
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:23.110
I LOVE IT.
00:26:23.110 --> 00:26:24.040
YOU KNOW--
00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:25.270
THIS LADY KNOWS HER BIBLE, BY
00:26:26.090 --> 00:26:29.090
THE WAY.
00:26:29.090 --> 00:26:30.040
I'M PICKIN' UP ON THAT.
00:26:30.040 --> 00:26:30.290
[SHEILA LAUGHS]
00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:31.160
YOU KNOW THE WORD.
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:32.030
I LOVE IT, AND, UH--
00:26:32.030 --> 00:26:32.280
SO, I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL
00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:33.180
THAT YOU TEACH, EVERY SINGLE
00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:34.150
WEEK, ALL OVER THE WORLD,
00:26:34.150 --> 00:26:36.110
THROUGH YOUR TELEVISION
00:26:36.110 --> 00:26:37.020
PROGRAM.
00:26:37.020 --> 00:26:37.140
IT'S SO POWERFUL.
00:26:37.140 --> 00:26:39.050
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE
00:26:39.050 --> 00:26:40.170
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING IN
00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.130
THE WORD.
00:26:41.130 --> 00:26:41.290
AND I JUST WAS LOOKING AT THIS.
00:26:41.290 --> 00:26:43.070
YOU HAVE A CHAPTER THAT I THINK
00:26:43.070 --> 00:26:44.130
IS REALLY GREAT: "CHANGE THE
00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:45.290
WAY YOU THINK."
00:26:45.290 --> 00:26:47.260
I MEAN, I LOVE IT.
00:26:47.260 --> 00:26:49.050
YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO THE WORD
00:26:49.050 --> 00:26:50.140
FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
00:26:50.140 --> 00:26:51.080
AND I LOVE IT.
00:26:51.080 --> 00:26:52.060
I JUST WANNA POINT THIS OUT,
00:26:52.060 --> 00:26:52.270
TOO, THAT HERE YOU'VE BEEN
00:26:52.270 --> 00:26:53.270
FAITHFUL AND GOD'S USED YOU FOR
00:26:53.270 --> 00:26:55.120
SO MANY YEARS IN A POWERFUL WAY
00:26:55.120 --> 00:26:56.040
ALL AROUND THE WORLD IN YOUR
00:26:56.040 --> 00:26:56.270
TEACHING, YOUR SINGING, YOUR
00:26:56.270 --> 00:26:57.180
ENTIRE MINISTRY.
00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:58.240
AND I LOVE HOW YOU BROUGHT IT
00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.120
BACK TO YOUR WELL-WORN BIBLE.
00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:03.090
BECAUSE YOUR PUBLIC MINISTRY
00:27:03.090 --> 00:27:05.220
WILL NEVER RISE ABOVE YOUR
00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:06.110
PRIVATE PRAYER LIFE.
00:27:06.110 --> 00:27:09.020
- SHEILA: MNH-MNH.
00:27:09.020 --> 00:27:09.180
NO.
00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:10.110
- BIL: AND SO, HERE YOU ARE --
00:27:10.110 --> 00:27:11.060
A WOMAN OF THE WORD, IN GOD'S
00:27:11.060 --> 00:27:11.270
TRUTH.
00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:12.170
BUT THAT TAKES A DISCIPLINE.
00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:13.130
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:14.070
TELL ME ABOUT HOW THAT AFFECTS
00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:15.000
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:17.080
INTERESTING -- WHEN PAUL WRITES
00:27:17.080 --> 00:27:18.000
IN ROMANS 12:2, "...DO NOT BE
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.260
CONFORMED TO THIS WORLD, BUT BE
00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:21.150
TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF
00:27:21.150 --> 00:27:22.150
YOUR MIND..." PUT THAT BACK IN
00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:24.080
PAUL'S NOT LIVING WITH
00:27:26.280 --> 00:27:27.160
INSTAGRAM, AND TWITTER, AND
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:28.170
FACEBOOK, AND TV.
00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:29.060
- BIL: YEAH...UGH.
00:27:29.060 --> 00:27:30.050
- SHEILA: SO, IF PAUL NEEDED
00:27:30.050 --> 00:27:31.240
TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE IN THOSE
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.150
DAYS, "DO NOT BE CONFORMED TO
00:27:32.150 --> 00:27:33.280
THIS WORLD," IT'S OBVIOUSLY
00:27:33.280 --> 00:27:35.200
BEEN SOMETHING WE HAVE
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.060
STRUGGLED WITH FROM THE MOMENT
00:27:37.060 --> 00:27:39.010
THAT ADAM AND EVE DECIDED TO
00:27:39.010 --> 00:27:40.060
SEE WHAT LIFE ON THEIR OWN
00:27:40.060 --> 00:27:42.210
LOOKED LIKE.
00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:44.010
SO, FOR ME, THERE WORD
00:27:44.010 --> 00:27:44.250
"TRANSFORMATION" --
00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:45.140
IT ONLY OCCURS ONE TIME IN ALL
00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:47.130
FOUR GOSPELS.
00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:49.050
AND IT'S THAT MOMENT WHEN
00:27:49.050 --> 00:27:50.060
CHRIST IS ON THAT MOUNT OF
00:27:50.060 --> 00:27:51.250
CONFIGURATION--
00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:53.090
- BIL: WOW. YEAH.
00:27:53.090 --> 00:27:53.250
- SHEILA: --OF
00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:54.150
TRANSFIGURATION...
00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:55.000
- BIL: TRANSFIGURATION.
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:55.220
YEAH.
00:27:55.220 --> 00:27:56.020
- SHEILA: ...AND IT'S THIS
00:27:56.020 --> 00:27:56.220
BEAUTIFUL THING, WHERE HE WAS
00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:57.130
TRANSFORMED.
00:27:57.130 --> 00:27:58.060
AND SCRIPTURE TELLS US ONE DAY
00:27:58.060 --> 00:27:58.280
WE WILL ALL BE LIKE THAT.
00:27:58.280 --> 00:28:00.140
ONE DAY WE WILL BE TRANSFORMED
00:28:00.140 --> 00:28:01.200
AND WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS.
00:28:01.290 --> 00:28:04.290
BUT WE'RE STILL HERE IN THIS
00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:05.250
EARTH.
00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:06.220
- BIL: YEAH.
00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:07.050
- SHEILA: SO, FOR NOW, THE WAY
00:28:07.050 --> 00:28:08.150
THAT WE CHANGE THE WAY WE THINK
00:28:08.150 --> 00:28:10.070
IS WE RE-WALLPAPER OUR MIND.
00:28:10.070 --> 00:28:12.080
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT ALL THE
00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:14.020
THINGS THAT WE TAKE IN ON A
00:28:14.020 --> 00:28:14.220
DAILY BASIS.
00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:15.250
- BIL: YEAH.
00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:16.230
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW...LIKE,
00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:17.210
IT'S GOOD TO WATCH THE NEWS.
00:28:17.210 --> 00:28:18.260
YOU KNOW, I DON'T DO IT EVERY
00:28:18.260 --> 00:28:20.140
DAY, 'CAUSE IT CAN BE A LITTLE
00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:21.220
DEPRESSING, BUT I-- I PAY
00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:23.080
ATTENTION TO WHERE I SPEND MY
00:28:23.080 --> 00:28:24.080
TIME.
00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:26.080
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:26.280
- SHEILA: BECAUSE WHEN THE
00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:28.070
PSALMIST DAVID SAID, "MAY THE
00:28:28.070 --> 00:28:29.110
WORDS OF MY MOUTH AND THE
00:28:29.110 --> 00:28:30.000
MEDITATION OF MY HEART BE
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.170
ACCEPTABLE, BE PLEASING TO YOU,
00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:33.280
O LORD," THAT SAYS TO ME:
00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:34.280
WHATEVER I'M MEDITATING ON IS
00:28:34.280 --> 00:28:36.180
GONNA COME OUT OF MY MOUTH.
00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:37.270
SO, IF I'M MEDITATING JUST ON
00:28:37.270 --> 00:28:39.140
EVERYTHING THAT'S ON TV, I HAVE
00:28:39.140 --> 00:28:41.090
A FEELING THAT'S GONNA SNEAK
00:28:41.090 --> 00:28:42.090
OUT OF MY MOUTH.
00:28:42.090 --> 00:28:43.000
- BIL: WOW.
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:43.160
- SHEILA: BUT IF I'M
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:44.270
MEDITATING ON THE WORD OF GOD,
00:28:44.270 --> 00:28:45.190
IF I'M WORSHIPING--
00:28:45.190 --> 00:28:47.130
I HAVE A PRAISE, UM...A WHOLE
00:28:48.170 --> 00:28:51.170
PRAISE LIST I LISTEN TO IN THE
00:28:51.170 --> 00:28:52.080
CAR WHEN I'M DRIVING TO WORK.
00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:52.290
AND EVEN ON DAYS WHEN I THINK,
00:28:52.290 --> 00:28:54.040
"UGH, IT'S RAINING AND THE
00:28:54.040 --> 00:28:55.160
TRAFFIC'S TERRIBLE," I'LL STICK
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.240
THAT IN AND I'M LIKE, "NO,
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:58.010
DEVIL -- NO, NOT TODAY!"
00:28:58.010 --> 00:28:58.250
[LAUGHTER]
00:28:58.250 --> 00:29:00.220
AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
00:29:00.220 --> 00:29:01.260
THAT THAT JUST LIFTS US.
00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:03.200
IT REMINDS US WHAT'S ALWAYS
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.250
TRUE, NO MATTER WHAT MIGHT BE
00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:06.030
TRUE AT THIS MOMENT.
00:29:06.030 --> 00:29:07.190
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:08.030
YOUR MOTHER WAS RIGHT,
00:29:08.030 --> 00:29:08.200
BASICALLY, THAT GARBAGE IN...
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:09.110
- SHEILA: YEP.
00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:10.110
- BIL: ...GARBAGE OUT.
00:29:10.110 --> 00:29:10.290
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:29:10.290 --> 00:29:11.130
- BIL: LIKE, IT'S REALLY,
00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:12.020
REALLY TRUE.
00:29:12.020 --> 00:29:13.000
- SHEILA: IT'S TRUE.
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:13.170
- BIL: IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S
00:29:13.170 --> 00:29:14.080
MORE GARBAGE, NOW!
00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:14.230
- SHEILA: I KNOW.
00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:15.080
- BIL: THERE'S MORE ACCESS TO
00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:16.000
IT.
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:16.090
- SHEILA: AND WITH MORE ACCESS
00:29:16.090 --> 00:29:17.010
TO GARBAGE.
00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:17.160
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT SOCIAL
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.060
MEDIA AND THE WAY THAT WE
00:29:18.060 --> 00:29:19.060
COMPARE.
00:29:19.060 --> 00:29:20.140
COMPARISON IS JUST DEADLY.
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.240
- BIL: IT IS.
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:24.100
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IF YOU
00:29:24.100 --> 00:29:25.030
LOOK AT WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS
00:29:25.030 --> 00:29:26.180
DOING...
00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.030
UM, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS
00:29:27.030 --> 00:29:28.000
INVITED TO JOIN-- THERE WAS A
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.010
WOMEN'S MOVEMENT FOR 20 YEARS
00:29:29.010 --> 00:29:30.290
CALLED WOMEN OF FAITH.
00:29:30.290 --> 00:29:31.280
AND I WAS ASKED TO JOIN THE
00:29:31.280 --> 00:29:33.060
TEAM.
00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:34.190
AND I SAID YES, UNTIL THE VERY
00:29:34.190 --> 00:29:35.230
FIRST NIGHT, WHEN I HEARD TWO
00:29:35.230 --> 00:29:36.270
OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
00:29:36.270 --> 00:29:38.120
AND THEY WERE SO BRILLIANT, I
00:29:38.120 --> 00:29:39.250
THOUGHT, OH, GOSH...WHY DID I
00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:41.020
SAY YES.
00:29:41.020 --> 00:29:42.140
[LAUGHTER]
00:29:42.140 --> 00:29:42.280
AND I LOCKED MYSELF IN THE
00:29:42.280 --> 00:29:43.260
BATHROOM IN THE ARENA.
00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:44.210
AND I SAID, "LORD, I CAN'T DO
00:29:44.210 --> 00:29:45.170
THIS."
00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:46.020
AND I HEARD, CLEARLY, THE LORD
00:29:46.020 --> 00:29:47.260
SAY: SHEILA, RUN IN YOUR OWN
00:29:47.260 --> 00:29:49.130
LANE.
00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:50.020
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:29:50.020 --> 00:29:51.010
- SHEILA: RUN IN YOUR OWN
00:29:51.010 --> 00:29:51.200
LANE.
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:51.290
I HAVE GIVEN YOU GIFTS THAT ARE
00:29:51.290 --> 00:29:53.020
DIFFERENT, SO DON'T LOOK TO
00:29:53.020 --> 00:29:54.140
YOUR RIGHT OR YOUR LEFT.
00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:55.210
LOOK TO ME AND RUN IN YOUR OWN
00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:57.010
LANE.
00:29:57.010 --> 00:29:57.160
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:58.040
WOW.
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[APPLAUSE]
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POWERFUL.
00:29:58.290 --> 00:29:59.230
WOW!
00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:00.100
OKAY, SO, HERE'S WHAT I WANT
00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.140
YOU TO DO, RIGHT NOW.
00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:04.280
IF THIS IS RESONATING WITH YOU,
00:30:04.280 --> 00:30:06.040
WHICH I KNOW IT IS-- I'M
00:30:06.040 --> 00:30:07.010
ABOUT-- I'M GONNA START TAKING
00:30:07.010 --> 00:30:08.100
SOME NOTES HERE, RIGHT NOW.
00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:09.050
I MEAN, I HATE THAT I HAVE TO
00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:10.000
HOST.
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:11.030
I WANNA TAKE NOTES.
00:30:11.030 --> 00:30:11.220
THIS IS INCREDIBLE STUFF AND
00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:12.140
THIS CONTENT IS AVAILABLE TO
00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:13.160
AND HERE'S WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT
00:30:15.270 --> 00:30:16.180
THIS BOOK, "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE
00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:18.040
OKAY," HERE'S WHY I WANT YOU TO
00:30:18.040 --> 00:30:19.110
GET THIS BOOK: BECAUSE YOU KNOW
00:30:19.110 --> 00:30:20.030
SOMEONE THAT NEEDS THIS.
00:30:20.030 --> 00:30:21.140
AND HERE'S WHAT'S GREAT.
00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:22.100
IT'S NOT JUST A SPIRITUAL-HIGH
00:30:22.100 --> 00:30:23.200
MOMENT YOU'RE GONNA GET.
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:24.230
YOU'RE GONNA GET STEPS -- EIGHT
00:30:24.230 --> 00:30:25.150
SIMPLE STEPS TO CHANGING YOUR
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.160
MIND, CHANGING YOUR LIFE,
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.180
CHANGING YOUR OUTLOOK.
00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:31.230
YOU DON'T WANNA MISS THIS.
00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:33.020
GET THIS TODAY FOR A GIFT OF
00:30:33.020 --> 00:30:34.120
$60 OR MORE TO THE MINISTRY.
00:30:34.120 --> 00:30:36.110
YOU GET NOT ONLY SHEILA'S BOOK,
00:30:36.110 --> 00:30:38.280
BUT YOU ALSO GET DR. DAVID
00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:40.010
JEREMIAH'S BOOK "OVERCOMER."
00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:41.130
WHAT A GREAT COMBO.
00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:43.110
AND, LISTEN, THE RESOURCES ARE
00:30:43.110 --> 00:30:44.100
GONNA COVER THESE BOOKS.
00:30:44.100 --> 00:30:45.200
IT'S ALSO GONNA HELP TAKE THE
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.270
GOSPEL AND TAKE THIS HOPE
00:30:46.270 --> 00:30:48.270
YOU'RE GETTING, RIGHT NOW, TO
00:30:48.270 --> 00:30:49.180
MORE PEOPLE.
00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:51.200
SO, PLEASE GET THIS TODAY.
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:52.090
IT'S AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE.
00:30:52.090 --> 00:30:53.030
AND I WANNA DIG BACK IN.
00:30:53.030 --> 00:30:53.290
CAN I DO THAT.
00:30:53.290 --> 00:30:54.120
- SHEILA: OH, SURE!
00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:56.030
- BIL: AND SO, I'M JUST
00:30:56.030 --> 00:30:56.290
ENJOYING THIS, RIGHT NOW.
00:30:56.290 --> 00:30:57.180
I LOVE THIS.
00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.200
I LOVE YOU SAY, "FACE THE
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.190
WHAT-IFS."
00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:02.210
ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW WE GET SO
00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:03.120
WORKED UP?
00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:03.290
WHAT IF THIS HAPPENS?
00:31:03.290 --> 00:31:05.140
WHAT IF THEY SAID THIS?
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.200
WHAT IF THAT HAPPENS?
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.070
AND WE JUST GET FREAKED OUT.
00:31:09.070 --> 00:31:09.270
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
00:31:09.270 --> 00:31:10.250
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, AFTER MY
00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:11.160
FATHER'S DEATH, UM, MY MOM
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.090
PRAYED TWO PRAYERS, WHICH SHE
00:31:12.090 --> 00:31:14.110
TOLD ME AS I WAS GROWING UP.
00:31:14.110 --> 00:31:15.220
SHE PRAYED THAT, ONE, SHE WOULD
00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:17.160
SEE EACH ONE OF US COMING TO
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.270
KNOW CHRIST AT AN EARLY AGE --
00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:20.200
MY BROTHER, AND MY SISTER, AND
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:21.210
I.
00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.060
AND, TWO, THAT SHE WOULD SEE US
00:31:22.060 --> 00:31:23.110
GROWN UP AND INTO OUR OWN
00:31:23.110 --> 00:31:24.000
CALLING.
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:25.000
AND MY BROTHER WAS THE LAST TO
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.110
GRADUATE AS AN ARCHITECT.
00:31:26.110 --> 00:31:27.230
AND SO, BY THEN, I WAS LIVING
00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:29.060
OVER HERE.
00:31:29.060 --> 00:31:30.040
SO, I FLEW BACK HOME AND I SAID
00:31:30.040 --> 00:31:31.060
TO MY MOM, "OKAY, I'M HERE TO
00:31:31.060 --> 00:31:32.240
DREAM WITH YOU FOR THE NEXT
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.210
PART OF YOUR LIFE.
00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:34.270
AND SHE SAID, "WHAT ARE YOU
00:31:34.270 --> 00:31:35.250
TALKIN' ABOUT?"
00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.180
AND I SAID: "MOM, GOD HAS
00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:37.150
ANSWERED THOSE TWO PRAYERS.
00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:39.040
SO, IF YOU STILL HAVE A PULSE
00:31:39.040 --> 00:31:41.020
AND THERE'S NOT A WHITE CHALK
00:31:41.020 --> 00:31:42.050
MARK AROUND YOUR BODY, YOU'RE
00:31:42.050 --> 00:31:42.260
- BIL: THAT'S RIGHT.
00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:45.050
- SHEILA: AND I SAID, "WHAT
00:31:45.050 --> 00:31:45.260
HAVE YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO DO?"
00:31:45.260 --> 00:31:46.180
AND SHE SAID, "WELL, I USED TO
00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:47.140
WANT TO TEACH, OR TO HAVE A
00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:48.070
BIBLE STUDY."
00:31:48.070 --> 00:31:49.030
AND I SAID, "OKAY, I'LL DRAW UP
00:31:49.030 --> 00:31:50.160
LITTLE FLYERS AND WE'LL INVITE
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.110
ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS."
00:31:51.110 --> 00:31:52.220
AND SHE SAID, "WELL, WHAT IF
00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:54.110
NOBODY COMES?"
00:31:54.110 --> 00:31:54.250
AND I SAID, "WELL, NOBODY
00:31:54.250 --> 00:31:55.140
COMES, YOU AND I WILL EAT ALL
00:31:55.140 --> 00:31:56.240
THE CAKES."
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.010
[LAUGHTER]
00:31:59.010 --> 00:31:59.140
AND SHE SAID, "WHAT IF PEOPLE
00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:01.010
DO COME?"
00:32:01.010 --> 00:32:01.130
AND I'M LIKE, "WELL, THAT'LL BE
00:32:01.130 --> 00:32:02.080
GREAT."
00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:02.200
SHE SAID, "WHAT IF I DON'T KNOW
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:03.130
THE ANSWERS?"
00:32:03.130 --> 00:32:04.170
AND I SAID, "THEN, WE'LL JUST
00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:05.110
SIMPLY SAY, 'YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:06.040
WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.
00:32:06.040 --> 00:32:07.040
COME BACK NEXT WEEK.'"
00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:08.010
- BIL: YEAH.
00:32:08.010 --> 00:32:08.170
- SHEILA: AND I WATCHED MY MOM
00:32:08.170 --> 00:32:09.270
ON THAT VERY FIRST ONE, I TOOK
00:32:09.270 --> 00:32:11.030
A BACKSEAT, SHARING WITH HER
00:32:11.030 --> 00:32:12.010
NEIGHBORS.
00:32:12.050 --> 00:32:15.050
AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THE CALL
00:32:15.050 --> 00:32:16.070
WHEN SHE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME
00:32:16.070 --> 00:32:17.020
ABOUT THE FIRST OF HER
00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:17.260
NEIGHBORS SHE GOT TO LEAD TO
00:32:17.260 --> 00:32:18.210
CHRIST.
00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:19.090
- BIL: WOW.
00:32:19.090 --> 00:32:20.050
- SHEILA: SO OFTEN, THE
00:32:20.050 --> 00:32:21.030
WHAT-IFS HOLD US BACK.
00:32:21.030 --> 00:32:22.160
BUT DON'T BE AFRAID TO STEP
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.060
THROUGH YOUR FEAR.
00:32:24.060 --> 00:32:24.250
DO IT AFRAID BECAUSE JESUS IS
00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:26.200
WITH YOU.
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.130
- BIL: OH, THAT'S GOOD.
00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:28.010
"DO IT AFRAID," -- IS THAT WHAT
00:32:28.010 --> 00:32:29.100
YOU JUST SAID?
00:32:29.100 --> 00:32:29.240
- SHEILA: THAT'S WHAT
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:30.150
ELISABETH ELLIOT TOLD ME.
00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:31.230
- BIL: OH, I LOVE THAT!
00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:32.110
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, ELISABETH
00:32:32.110 --> 00:32:33.020
ELLIOT WAS MARRIED TO JIM
00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:33.280
ELLIOT, YOU KNOW, WHO LOST HIS
00:32:33.280 --> 00:32:34.210
LIFE--
00:32:34.210 --> 00:32:35.060
- BIL: INCREDIBLE.
00:32:35.060 --> 00:32:37.200
- SHEILA: --TO THE AUCA
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.080
INDIANS.
00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:38.190
AND, WHAT I DIDN'T REALIZE WAS
00:32:38.190 --> 00:32:39.160
THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN ELIZABETH
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.000
STAYED ON, IN THAT AREA, HER
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:42.090
DAUGHTER, VALERIE, WAS JUST
00:32:42.090 --> 00:32:42.290
THREE.
00:32:42.290 --> 00:32:45.060
AND SHE WANTED TO REACH THESE
00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:46.070
PEOPLE, BUT THEY'D KILLED HER
00:32:46.070 --> 00:32:46.280
HUSBAND.
00:32:46.280 --> 00:32:47.200
WHAT IF THEY KILLED HER?
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.220
WHAT IF THEIR DAUGHTER WAS LEFT
00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:49.200
WITH NO ONE?
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.050
BUT SHE WAS COMPELLED BY THE
00:32:50.050 --> 00:32:52.090
HOLY SPIRIT.
00:32:52.090 --> 00:32:52.260
BUT SHE WAS AFRAID.
00:32:52.260 --> 00:32:53.290
SO, HER FRIEND SAID TO HER,
00:32:53.290 --> 00:32:55.040
"ELIZABETH, DO IT AFRAID."
00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.290
- BIL: INCREDIBLE.
00:32:56.290 --> 00:32:57.150
- SHEILA: AND I'VE NEVER
00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:58.120
FORGOTTEN THAT.
00:32:58.120 --> 00:32:58.280
IF WE LET OUR FEAR HOLD US
00:32:58.280 --> 00:33:01.130
BACK--
00:33:01.130 --> 00:33:03.000
- BIL: WOW!
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:03.210
- SHEILA: --WE'LL NEVER
00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:04.090
FULFILL THE DESTINY.
00:33:04.090 --> 00:33:04.250
- BIL: I LOVE IT.
00:33:04.250 --> 00:33:05.220
- SHEILA: 'CAUSE EVERY SINGLE
00:33:05.220 --> 00:33:06.160
ONE OF US HAS A DESTINY, A
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.050
UNIQUE CALLING FROM CHRIST.
00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:07.250
- BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
00:33:07.250 --> 00:33:08.110
I LOVE IT.
00:33:08.110 --> 00:33:09.170
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, "WELL,
00:33:09.170 --> 00:33:10.070
WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT?"
00:33:10.070 --> 00:33:10.280
WHAT IF IT DOES?
00:33:10.280 --> 00:33:11.120
- SHEILA: YEAH -- RIGHT!
00:33:11.120 --> 00:33:12.140
- BIL: WHAT IF IT WORKS OUT
00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:13.040
BEAUTIFULLY?
00:33:13.040 --> 00:33:15.000
- SHEILA: THAT'S WHAT I'VE
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:15.200
ALWAYS SAID TO MY SON: NEVER BE
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:16.160
AFRAID OF FAILING.
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:17.010
- BIL: THAT'S RIGHT.
00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:18.150
- SHEILA: FAILING IS A GREAT
00:33:18.150 --> 00:33:19.190
TEACHER.
00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:20.110
JUST BE AFRAID OF NEVER TRYING.
00:33:20.110 --> 00:33:21.030
- BIL: RIGHT.
00:33:21.030 --> 00:33:22.210
WHAT IF I ASK HER OUT AND SHE
00:33:22.210 --> 00:33:23.120
SAYS NO?
00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:23.230
WELL, THEN, YOU'RE GONNA STAY
00:33:23.230 --> 00:33:24.140
HOME FRIDAY NIGHT LIKE YOU DID
00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:25.060
LAST FRIDAY NIGHT?
00:33:25.060 --> 00:33:25.220
WHAT-- WHAT'S THE LOSS?
00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:26.140
[LAUGHTER]
00:33:26.140 --> 00:33:26.260
YOU KNOW, RIGHT?
00:33:26.260 --> 00:33:27.110
GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT STEP,
00:33:27.110 --> 00:33:28.010
TAKE THAT STEP OF FAITH.
00:33:28.010 --> 00:33:29.150
WHATEVER IT IS, TAKE THE STEP
00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:30.060
OF FAITH AND BE WILLING TO TAKE
00:33:30.060 --> 00:33:31.050
THE RISK.
00:33:31.050 --> 00:33:31.220
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE TAKEN A RISK
00:33:31.220 --> 00:33:32.230
BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO
00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:33.240
VULNERABLE IN YOUR BOOK.
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:34.210
AND YOU JUST-- YOU JUST PUT
00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:35.260
YOURSELF OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
00:33:35.260 --> 00:33:37.070
TELL ME ABOUT-- WAS IT A LITTLE
00:33:37.070 --> 00:33:38.140
CATHARTIC FOR YOU TO DO THAT,
00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:40.030
JUST TO KIND OF LAY IT OUT
00:33:40.030 --> 00:33:42.010
THERE?
00:33:42.010 --> 00:33:42.200
WAS IT A LITTLE THERAPY FOR YOU
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:43.120
TO--
00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:43.270
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
00:33:43.270 --> 00:33:45.110
- SHEILA: SURE!
00:33:45.110 --> 00:33:45.270
- BIL: LIKE, THE BIBLE TALKS
00:33:45.270 --> 00:33:46.240
ABOUT JOURNALING AND I'M
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.170
THINKIN'--
00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:48.020
- SHEILA: SURE!
00:33:48.020 --> 00:33:48.170
- BIL: --I BET AS YOU WERE
00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:49.070
WRITING THIS, YOU WERE LIKE,
00:33:49.070 --> 00:33:50.000
"OH, MAN, I REMEMBER GOD -- YOU
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.220
BROUGHT ME THROUGH THIS AND YOU
00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:51.240
BROUGHT ME THROUGH THAT."
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.190
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:53.110
- BIL: TELL ME ABOUT THE
00:33:53.110 --> 00:33:54.000
PROCESS FOR YOU.
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:54.190
- SHEILA: I TAKE MY TEMPLATE
00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:55.100
FOR MINISTRY FROM PAUL'S LETTER
00:33:55.100 --> 00:33:56.020
HE SAID: WE'VE DETERMINED AMONG
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.080
YOU NOT JUST TO SHARE THE
00:33:58.080 --> 00:33:58.270
GOSPEL BUT OUR VERY LIVES.
00:33:58.270 --> 00:34:01.110
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:34:01.180 --> 00:34:04.180
- SHEILA: SO, TO ME, THERE'S
00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:05.090
POWER IN SHARING OUR STORY, BUT
00:34:05.090 --> 00:34:06.100
WHICH IS GOD'S STORY,
00:34:08.140 --> 00:34:09.010
WHICH IS WHY I SAY ABOUT
00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:09.190
THIS BOOK: THIS IS NOT
00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:10.060
SELF-HELP.
00:34:10.060 --> 00:34:11.040
SELF-HELP'S NO HELP AT ALL.
00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:11.240
THIS IS GOD HELP.
00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:14.010
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:14.200
- SHEILA: THIS IS HOW GOD MET
00:34:14.200 --> 00:34:15.250
ME.
00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:16.090
BUT I THINK-- YOU KNOW, I THINK
00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:17.220
OF WOMEN WHO'VE LOST A CHILD.
00:34:17.220 --> 00:34:18.220
- BIL: MMH.
00:34:18.220 --> 00:34:19.090
- SHEILA: THAT'S A PAIN I
00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:20.070
CAN'T IMAGINE.
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:21.110
- BIL: YEAH.
00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:22.240
- SHEILA: BUT IF YOU'VE GONE
00:34:22.240 --> 00:34:23.150
THROUGH THAT, ONCE YOU'VE COME
00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:25.010
TO A PLACE SUFFICIENT IN YOUR
00:34:25.010 --> 00:34:26.170
HEALING, YOU CAN REACH ANOTHER
00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:28.110
WOMAN IN A WAY I NEVER WILL.
00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:29.200
IF YOU'VE STRUGGLED WITH
00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:31.050
ALCOHOLISM, IF YOU HAVE
00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.180
ANYTHING -- A DRUG ADDICTION,
00:34:32.180 --> 00:34:33.180
WHATEVER IT IS -- WHEN WE'RE
00:34:33.180 --> 00:34:34.240
ABLE-- WHICH IS WHY ONE OF MY
00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:36.270
FAVORITE CHAPTERS IS CALLED
00:34:36.270 --> 00:34:38.030
"CELEBRATE YOUR SCARS AS
00:34:38.030 --> 00:34:40.040
TATTOOS OF TRIUMPH."
00:34:40.040 --> 00:34:43.010
- BIL: THAT'S GREAT.
00:34:43.010 --> 00:34:43.180
- SHEILA: GOD TELLS HIS STORY
00:34:43.180 --> 00:34:44.090
IN SCARS.
00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:46.120
CHRIST COULD HAVE DECIDED TO
00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:47.020
RISE FROM THE DEAD AND LEAVE
00:34:47.020 --> 00:34:48.140
THE SCARS BEHIND IN THE TOMB,
00:34:48.140 --> 00:34:51.030
WITH THE WRAP.
00:34:51.030 --> 00:34:51.160
BUT HE DIDN'T.
00:34:51.160 --> 00:34:52.160
IF JESUS CHOSE TO RISE WITH HIS
00:34:52.160 --> 00:34:54.080
SCARS, WHY SHOULD WE BE AFRAID
00:34:54.080 --> 00:34:56.120
OF OURS-- ASHAMED OF OURS?
00:34:56.120 --> 00:34:58.210
SCARS ARE PROOF THAT GOD HEALS.
00:34:58.210 --> 00:34:59.130
THEY'RE NOT OPEN WOUNDS
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.190
ANYMORE.
00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:01.030
THEY'RE PLACES WHERE WE CAN
00:35:01.030 --> 00:35:02.170
SAY: HERE'S WHERE THE GRACE AND
00:35:02.170 --> 00:35:04.070
MERCY OF GOD MET ME.
00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.170
AND HE WILL MEET YOU, TOO.
00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:07.060
- BIL: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
00:35:07.060 --> 00:35:07.250
IT'S A SIGN OF NOT WHERE
00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:08.230
YOU ARE, BUT WHERE YOU WERE.
00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:09.240
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:10.260
- BIL: YOU'RE NOT THERE,
00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:11.170
ANYMORE.
00:35:11.170 --> 00:35:12.000
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:12.140
- BIL: SO, YOU'VE BEEN HEALED
00:35:12.140 --> 00:35:13.140
OF THAT.
00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:13.250
I LOVE THAT.
00:35:13.250 --> 00:35:14.110
YOU KNOW, THIS BOOK IS GONNA
00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:16.130
HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE.
00:35:16.130 --> 00:35:17.000
- BIL: IT REALLY IS.
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:19.170
IT'S HELPING US, RIGHT NOW.
00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:20.070
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:21.000
I MEAN, GOD IS ALREADY USING
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:21.210
THIS TO SPEAK TO US.
00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:22.070
[APPLAUSE]
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GREAT STUFF.
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THE ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT--
00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:27.140
THE ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT TBN
00:35:27.140 --> 00:35:29.040
IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MATT IS SO
00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:30.220
GOOD, MATT AND LAURIE BOTH, ARE
00:35:30.220 --> 00:35:31.260
SO GOOD ABOUT REALLY WANTING TO
00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:33.110
GET PRODUCTS THAT HELP PEOPLE.
00:35:33.110 --> 00:35:35.140
THIS ISN'T: LET'S SELL A
00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:37.040
TRINKET.
00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:37.180
THIS IS: NO, LET'S REALLY HELP
00:35:37.180 --> 00:35:38.200
PEOPLE--
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:35:39.160 --> 00:35:40.000
- BIL: --AND LET'S REALLY GIVE
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:40.220
THEM VALUE, MORE VALUE THAN
00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:41.120
THEY THINK THEY'RE GIVING TO
00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:42.290
THE MINISTRY.
00:35:42.290 --> 00:35:43.280
LET'S MAKE SURE THEY GET
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.240
MINISTRY.
00:35:44.240 --> 00:35:45.210
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BOOK DOES.
00:35:45.210 --> 00:35:46.130
IT REALLY GIVES YOU GREAT
00:35:46.130 --> 00:35:47.180
VALUE.
00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:48.250
YOU GOTTA GET THIS.
00:35:48.250 --> 00:35:49.110
PICK THIS UP TODAY.
00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:50.120
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO PICK
00:35:50.120 --> 00:35:51.030
IT UP, READ IT, AND THEN, PASS
00:35:51.030 --> 00:35:52.020
IT ALONG TO SOMEONE ELSE.
00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:53.290
GIFT IT.
00:35:53.290 --> 00:35:54.180
SO, I'M A BIG BOOK-GIFTER.
00:35:54.180 --> 00:35:55.090
DO YOU DO THAT?
00:35:55.090 --> 00:35:56.080
- SHEILA: I DO.
00:35:56.080 --> 00:35:56.230
- BIL: I LOVE TO GIFT A GOOD
00:35:56.230 --> 00:35:57.140
BOOK.
00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:58.140
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:35:58.140 --> 00:35:58.290
- BIL: THIS IS A GREAT BOOK.
00:35:58.290 --> 00:35:59.200
MAYBE YOU SAY, "WELL, THIS IS
00:35:59.200 --> 00:36:00.130
SO GOOD, BUT I KNOW JUST THE
00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:01.030
PERSON WHO NEEDS THIS BOOK."
00:36:01.030 --> 00:36:01.240
THEN, GET IT TO THEM, RIGHT
00:36:01.240 --> 00:36:02.140
NOW.
00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:03.050
HELP THEM START THEIR 2019 IN
00:36:03.050 --> 00:36:04.120
AN AMAZING WAY.
00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:06.140
AND, KEEP ONE FOR YOURSELF,
00:36:06.140 --> 00:36:07.150
RIGHT?
00:36:07.150 --> 00:36:08.010
I'LL LET YOU PICK WHICH ONE YOU
00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:08.260
WANNA READ FIRST.
00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:09.110
BUT YOU CAN GET DR. DAVID
00:36:09.110 --> 00:36:11.080
JEREMIAH'S BOOK "OVERCOMER,"
00:36:11.080 --> 00:36:12.150
AS WELL AS SHEILA WALSH'S
00:36:12.150 --> 00:36:13.180
BRAND-NEW BOOK.
00:36:13.180 --> 00:36:15.030
THIS IS ONLY THREE WEEKS OLD.
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:15.290
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:36:15.290 --> 00:36:16.130
- BIL: IT'S BRAND-NEW.
00:36:16.130 --> 00:36:17.010
AND SO, "IT'S OKAY NOT TO BE
00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:17.210
OKAY."
00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:18.000
PICK THESE BOOKS UP.
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.210
THEY WILL ENCOURAGE YOU,
00:36:18.210 --> 00:36:20.240
THEY'LL MOTIVATE YOU.
00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:23.170
AND MY FAVORITE PART ABOUT YOUR
00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:24.090
BOOK IS IT'S A PRACTICAL PLAN!
00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:25.000
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:26.010
- BIL: SOMETIMES WE'RE SO
00:36:26.010 --> 00:36:27.060
SPIRITUAL THAT WE'RE NO EARTHLY
00:36:27.060 --> 00:36:27.280
GOOD.
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.210
I MEAN, YOU'VE PROBABLY
00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:30.170
THOUGHT: I'M GONNA PRAY MY
00:36:30.170 --> 00:36:31.080
DEPRESSION AWAY.
00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:32.150
I'M GONNA PRAY MY SHAME AWAY.
00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:34.020
AND PRAYER WORKS -- DON'T GET
00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:34.250
ME WRONG.
00:36:34.250 --> 00:36:35.140
BUT THERE'S GOOD HELP YOU CAN
00:36:35.140 --> 00:36:38.000
GET FROM GODLY WISDOM, AS WELL.
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.040
- SHEILA: YEAH, YEAH.
00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.050
- BIL: AND YOU GIVE THAT.
00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:43.040
I LOVE THAT.
00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:43.180
WHAT WAS THE HARDEST STEP FOR
00:36:43.180 --> 00:36:44.090
YOU, SHEILA,
00:36:44.090 --> 00:36:44.240
WITH ALL OF THIS?
00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:46.270
WHAT WAS THE STEP YOU JUST
00:36:46.270 --> 00:36:47.280
THOUGHT, "MAN, I DON'T THINK I
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.200
- SHEILA: I THINK, RISE
00:36:50.180 --> 00:36:51.090
ABOVE DISAPPOINTMENT IS ONE OF
00:36:51.090 --> 00:36:52.000
THE CHAPTERS THAT I STRUGGLED
00:36:52.230 --> 00:36:55.230
BECAUSE, I'M SURE YOU KNOW
00:36:58.170 --> 00:36:59.060
PEOPLE LIKE THIS, AND I KNOW
00:36:59.060 --> 00:37:00.160
YOU DO -- PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO--
00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:01.070
IT'S JUST LIKE ONE THING AFTER
00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:01.290
ANOTHER THAT HITS THEIR LIFE.
00:37:01.290 --> 00:37:02.260
- BIL: YEAH.
00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:03.210
- SHEILA: AND YOU THINK, LORD,
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:08.030
- SHEILA: AND YET, WE'RE TOLD
00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:08.250
-- I MEAN, PAUL TELLS US -- WE
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HAVE THIS HOPE THAT WILL NOT
00:37:09.220 --> 00:37:10.140
DISAPPOINT.
00:37:10.140 --> 00:37:12.160
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:37:12.160 --> 00:37:13.030
- SHEILA: AND, SOMETIMES, FOR
00:37:13.030 --> 00:37:14.060
ME, IT'S REMEMBERING WE'RE NOT
00:37:14.060 --> 00:37:15.110
HOME YET.
00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:15.270
YOU KNOW, WE ARE LIVING IN
00:37:15.270 --> 00:37:16.190
PLAN B.
00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:17.280
BUT CHRIST IS A REDEEMER IN
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.060
PLAN B.
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I TALK ABOUT, UM, BEING IN THE
00:37:20.250 --> 00:37:22.120
HALLWAYS OF LIFE, WHERE YOU
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.000
FEEL AS IF A DOOR IS SLAMMED IN
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.000
YOUR FACE.
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.040
ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WENT
00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:30.060
THROUGH A THING WHERE THERE WAS
00:37:30.060 --> 00:37:31.240
SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH MY
00:37:31.240 --> 00:37:32.190
BACK.
00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:33.070
AND IT GOT TO THE STAGE WHERE I
00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:34.170
COULD HARDLY WALK.
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- BIL: WOW.
00:37:35.290 --> 00:37:36.140
- SHEILA: AND IT SEEMED LIKE
00:37:36.140 --> 00:37:37.250
MY WHOLE LIFE WAS JUST GONNA BE
00:37:37.250 --> 00:37:38.170
STOPPED AND CLOSED IN.
00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:40.160
AND I WAS STRUGGLING WITH THAT
00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:41.210
BECAUSE I THOUGHT, LORD, WHAT
00:37:41.210 --> 00:37:43.160
IF I CAN'T WALK AGAIN?
00:37:43.160 --> 00:37:44.190
WHAT IF I CAN'T GO OUT AND
00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:45.090
MINISTER?
00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:46.100
WHAT IF I'M STUCK IN MY OWN
00:37:46.100 --> 00:37:47.030
BED?
00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:48.060
MY HUSBAND TOLD ME, LATER, THAT
00:37:48.060 --> 00:37:49.140
HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS GONNA
00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:50.220
DIE.
00:37:50.220 --> 00:37:51.050
HE SAID, "YOU WERE DISAPPEARING
00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:52.090
A LITTLE BIT MORE EVERY DAY."
00:37:52.090 --> 00:37:53.090
- BIL: HMH.
00:37:53.090 --> 00:37:53.260
- SHEILA: BUT AS I BEGAN TO
00:37:53.260 --> 00:37:55.080
CRY OUT TO GOD, THE SAME ANSWER
00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:56.100
CAME: I WILL BE THERE.
00:37:56.100 --> 00:37:58.140
I WILL BE THERE.
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WE ARE NOT PROMISED A CERTAIN
00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:02.080
OUTCOME; WE ARE PROMISED THE
00:38:02.080 --> 00:38:03.290
PRESENCE OF CHRIST, NO MATTER
00:38:03.290 --> 00:38:05.130
WHAT THE OUTCOME.
00:38:05.130 --> 00:38:06.260
AND I'VE DISCOVERED WHEN A DOOR
00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:08.160
HAS BEEN SLAMMED IN YOUR FACE,
00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:09.130
CHRIST IS THE REDEEMER IN THE
00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:11.040
HALLWAY.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- SHEILA: AND WHEN I WAS BEING
00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:15.070
PUSHED IN FOR THAT BACK
00:38:15.070 --> 00:38:15.250
SURGERY, WHERE THEY REMOVED A
00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:16.160
DISK FROM MY BACK AND A DISK
00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:17.150
THROUGH THE FRONT, AND THE
00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:18.210
NURSE SAID TO ME, UM, "WHAT ARE
00:38:18.210 --> 00:38:20.060
YOU SINGING?"
00:38:20.060 --> 00:38:22.030
AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE
00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:22.220
I WAS, AND I REALIZED I
00:38:22.220 --> 00:38:24.000
WAS SINGING "I SURRENDER ALL."
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.180
- BIL: WOW.
00:38:25.180 --> 00:38:26.130
- SHEILA: BUT THAT WAS IN THE
00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:27.040
NOT--
00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:27.250
THAT'S WHY I WANT PEOPLE TO
00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:28.150
KNOW: THAT WAS IN THE NOT
00:38:28.150 --> 00:38:29.110
KNOWING.
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:38:29.250 --> 00:38:30.080
- SHEILA: YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:32.190
EASIER TO SING THAT WHEN WE GET
00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:33.110
THROUGH AND WE GET THE OUTCOME
00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:34.030
WE HOPE FOR, BUT WHAT I HAVE
00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:34.230
DISCOVERED IS WHEN YOU DON'T
00:38:34.230 --> 00:38:35.260
GET THE OUTCOME YOU HOPE FOR,
00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:37.110
OR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
00:38:37.110 --> 00:38:38.170
OUTCOME IS, CHRIST IS PRESENT.
00:38:38.220 --> 00:38:41.220
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:38:41.220 --> 00:38:42.100
- SHEILA: HE IS THE REDEEMER,
00:38:42.100 --> 00:38:43.070
WHEREVER YOU FIND YOURSELF.
00:38:43.070 --> 00:38:44.150
- BIL: OKAY, NOW, I DIDN'T
00:38:44.150 --> 00:38:45.150
KNOW IT WAS GONNA GET THIS
00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:46.090
PERSONAL.
00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:47.130
I LOVE IT.
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[APPLAUSE]
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AND, UM...I DON'T TALK ABOUT
00:38:52.290 --> 00:38:53.190
THIS OFTEN, BUT I WAKE UP EVERY
00:38:53.190 --> 00:38:54.110
DAY IN PAIN.
00:38:54.110 --> 00:38:54.230
- SHEILA: OH, GOSH...
00:38:54.230 --> 00:38:57.140
- BIL: AND SO, I-- IT'S NOT
00:38:57.140 --> 00:38:58.050
SOMETHING I REALLY TALK ABOUT
00:38:58.050 --> 00:38:58.260
MUCH.
00:38:58.260 --> 00:38:59.050
UM, BUT, IT'S ABOUT AN HOUR
00:38:59.050 --> 00:39:00.070
EVERY MORNING FOR ME TO REALLY
00:39:00.070 --> 00:39:01.150
START TO FUNCTION LIKE A NORMAL
00:39:01.150 --> 00:39:02.170
GUY.
00:39:02.170 --> 00:39:03.190
- SHEILA: WOW...
00:39:03.190 --> 00:39:04.040
- BIL: AND SO-- BECAUSE OF MY
00:39:04.040 --> 00:39:05.070
BACK.
00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:05.240
I'VE HAD TWO SURGERIES.
00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:06.250
AND SO-- ANYWAYS, I DON'T WANNA
00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:07.260
MAKE THIS ABOUT ME, BUT I WANNA
00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:08.240
STOP, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S
00:39:08.240 --> 00:39:09.260
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH
00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:10.170
PHYSICAL PAIN.
00:39:10.170 --> 00:39:13.030
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:14.090
- BIL: THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON.
00:39:15.100 --> 00:39:18.100
AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING
00:39:18.100 --> 00:39:19.040
WHEN YOU'RE LIKE:
00:39:19.040 --> 00:39:19.190
GOD, YOU SAY YOU'LL HEAL.
00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:20.120
AND WE KNOW YOU'RE MY SAVIOR,
00:39:20.120 --> 00:39:21.030
BUT, I JUST STILL HURT EVERY
00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:24.040
DAY.
00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:24.160
AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT ESSENTIALLY
00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:25.080
ABIDING IN CHRIST AND ABIDING
00:39:25.080 --> 00:39:26.040
IN YOU IN THOSE MOMENTS.
00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:27.120
BUT I WANNA MENTION SOMETHING I
00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:28.160
THINK'S REALLY-- AND I WANT YOU
00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:29.080
TO TOUCH ON THIS.
00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:30.020
I LOVE HOW YOU SAID, "I'M
00:39:30.020 --> 00:39:31.120
SINGING AND I'M PRAYING WHILE
00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:33.120
I'M GETTING THE SURGERY."
00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:34.280
SO, SPIRITUAL IS PRACTICAL AND
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.120
PRACTICAL IS SPIRITUAL.
00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:38.280
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:39.120
- BIL: SO, YOU WENT DOWN DUAL
00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:41.130
PATHS AT THE SAME TIME.
00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:42.190
LET ME GET THIS FIXED, LET ME
00:39:42.190 --> 00:39:44.000
GET THE HELP I CAN.
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:44.250
BUT, GOD, I'M STILL TRUSTING
00:39:44.250 --> 00:39:46.100
YOU TO TAKE ME TO THAT RIGHT
00:39:46.100 --> 00:39:48.070
SPECIALIST, THAT RIGHT SURGEON,
00:39:48.070 --> 00:39:49.110
THAT RIGHT COUNSELOR, THAT
00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:51.000
RIGHT--
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- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:52.030
- BIL: --YOU KNOW, WHATEVER
00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:52.250
THAT YOU'RE NEEDING -- THE
00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:53.280
RIGHT MEDICATION, ALL THOSE
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.180
THINGS.
00:39:54.180 --> 00:39:55.020
WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT FOR
00:39:55.020 --> 00:39:56.050
SECOND?
00:39:56.050 --> 00:39:56.170
'CAUSE I THINK-- THAT'S MY
00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:57.110
FAVORITE PART ABOUT THIS BOOK
00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:58.020
IS JUST THE PRACTICAL SIDE.
00:39:58.020 --> 00:39:58.290
'CAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE JUST--
00:39:58.290 --> 00:40:00.280
JUST, YOU KNOW, JUMP UP AND
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.230
DOWN, SCREAM "HALLELUJAH!"
00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:03.280
THREE TIMES, AND GOD'S GONNA
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:04.190
HEAL YOU.
00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:05.070
NO, NO.
00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:05.180
NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
00:40:05.180 --> 00:40:06.230
I MEAN, WE'D ALL LIKE THAT.
00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:08.020
I MEAN, WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT
00:40:08.020 --> 00:40:08.240
IF THAT WAS IT?
00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:11.250
BUT YOU'RE LIKE: BUT, LORD, I
00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:12.160
STILL GO BACK TO A BAD
00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:13.030
MARRIAGE.
00:40:13.030 --> 00:40:13.140
I STILL GOTTA DEAL WITH MY
00:40:13.140 --> 00:40:14.030
GRANDKID THAT'S DRIVING ME
00:40:14.030 --> 00:40:15.030
CRAZY.
00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.270
I STILL GOT A BOSS THAT'S--
00:40:16.270 --> 00:40:17.170
I MEAN, RIGHT?
00:40:17.170 --> 00:40:18.130
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THERE'S
00:40:18.130 --> 00:40:19.150
STILL--
00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:20.180
[APPLAUSE]
00:40:20.180 --> 00:40:21.040
LORD, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO
00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:22.130
ANYTHING, BUT SOMETIMES, THE
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:23.160
PROCESS IS A LONG TIME.
00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:25.000
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:25.200
- BIL: SOMETIMES, GOD LETS
00:40:25.200 --> 00:40:27.060
PAUL KEEP A THORN IN HIS SIDE.
00:40:27.060 --> 00:40:28.130
- SHEILA: YES.
00:40:28.130 --> 00:40:28.270
- BIL: TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A
00:40:28.270 --> 00:40:29.200
SECOND.
00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:30.000
SO, YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:30.200
STILL DAILY DEALING WITH A
00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:31.180
LOT OF THIS, BUT YET, YOU'RE
00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:32.090
STILL-- YOU'RE ON TOP OF IT.
00:40:32.090 --> 00:40:33.170
- SHEILA: THAT WAS WHY ONE OF
00:40:33.170 --> 00:40:36.080
THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY
00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:37.040
IMPORTANT FOR ME IN WRITING
00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:37.240
THIS BOOK WAS I WANTED TO BE
00:40:37.240 --> 00:40:38.220
VERY DAILY...
00:40:38.220 --> 00:40:39.190
- BIL: YEAH.
00:40:39.190 --> 00:40:40.020
- SHEILA: ...AND VERY DOABLE.
00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:41.030
I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE SO LOFTY
00:40:41.030 --> 00:40:42.110
ON A SHELF SO HIGH...
00:40:42.110 --> 00:40:44.150
- BIL: YEAH.
00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:45.060
- SHEILA: ...THAT PEOPLE
00:40:45.060 --> 00:40:45.280
COULDN'T REACH IT.
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.270
IF SOMEBODY WAS ON THEIR KNEES,
00:40:46.270 --> 00:40:48.010
I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO
00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:49.060
GRASP HOLD OF THAT.
00:40:49.060 --> 00:40:50.060
'CAUSE I FIND IT FASCINATING.
00:40:50.060 --> 00:40:51.150
YOU MENTION PAUL'S THORN IN THE
00:40:51.150 --> 00:40:52.290
FLESH.
00:40:52.290 --> 00:40:53.110
THREE CHAPTERS BEFORE THAT,
00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:54.280
PAUL DESCRIBES AN EXPERIENCE HE
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.250
HAD WHERE GOD TOOK HIM TO WHAT
00:40:56.250 --> 00:40:58.260
PAUL DESCRIBES AS PARADISE.
00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:00.130
- BIL: MMH.
00:41:00.130 --> 00:41:00.270
- SHEILA: AND THAT WORD IS
00:41:00.270 --> 00:41:02.090
TRANSLATED AS-- IT WAS WHEN A
00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:03.160
KING WOULD TAKE A FAVORITE
00:41:03.160 --> 00:41:05.100
SUBJECT FOR A WALK INSIDE A
00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:06.240
WALLED GARDEN.
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- BIL: WOW.
00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:10.000
- SHEILA: IT WAS A HUGE
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:10.180
PRIVILEGE.
00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:10.290
SO, IT'S LIKE GOD GAVE PAUL
00:41:10.290 --> 00:41:13.210
THIS PRIVATE WALK WHERE HE
00:41:13.210 --> 00:41:14.270
SHOWED HIM THINGS AND TOLD HIM
00:41:14.270 --> 00:41:17.090
THINGS THAT HE WAS NOT ALLOWED
00:41:17.090 --> 00:41:18.010
TO TELL US.
00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:18.160
- BIL: WOW.
00:41:18.160 --> 00:41:19.240
- SHEILA: SO, HE SAW ALL OF
00:41:19.240 --> 00:41:20.150
THAT, BUT STILL, THEN, HE SAYS,
00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:21.090
THREE TIMES, "I BEGGED GOD,
00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:23.030
'TAKE THIS AWAY."
00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:25.190
BUT GOD SAID TO HIM, "NO, PAUL,
00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:26.280
HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:27.240
UNDERSTAND.
00:41:27.240 --> 00:41:28.130
MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR
00:41:28.130 --> 00:41:29.170
YOU."
00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:32.150
[APPLAUSE]
00:41:32.150 --> 00:41:33.070
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:41:33.070 --> 00:41:34.000
- SHEILA: "MY GRACE..."
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.210
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:35.130
- SHEILA: BUT THEN, HE GOES ON
00:41:35.130 --> 00:41:36.050
TO SAY, "BECAUSE MY STRENGTH IS
00:41:36.050 --> 00:41:37.020
MADE PERFECT IN YOUR WEAKNESS."
00:41:37.100 --> 00:41:40.100
NOT WHEN YOU HAVE A BAD DAY.
00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:41.210
NOT JUST ON THE ODD OCCASION.
00:41:42.020 --> 00:41:45.020
"MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN
00:41:45.020 --> 00:41:46.120
YOUR WEAKNESS."
00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:48.160
YOU KNOW, I WAS RECENTLY IN
00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:49.230
CAMBODIA.
00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:51.050
WE WERE WORKING ON SEX
00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:52.030
TRAFFICKING, GETTING GIRLS AND
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:53.030
BOYS TO SAFE PLACES.
00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:55.100
AND I NOTICED, IN THIS SLUM
00:41:55.100 --> 00:41:56.200
AREA, WE WERE RIGHT BESIDE A
00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:57.110
HUGE BUDDHIST TEMPLE, COVERED
00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:58.280
IN GOLD DOMES.
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AND I ASKED MY TRANSLATOR, I
00:42:00.220 --> 00:42:02.080
SAID: "WOULD YOU COME WITH ME?
00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:03.220
I'D LIKE TO TALK TO ONE OF THE
00:42:03.220 --> 00:42:04.140
PRIESTS."
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:42:05.070 --> 00:42:05.210
- SHEILA: AND I SAID TO HIM,
00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:07.010
"CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME: DO YOU
00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:08.200
EVER THINK OF TAKING SOME OF
00:42:08.200 --> 00:42:09.210
THIS MONEY AND PERHAPS SHARING
00:42:09.210 --> 00:42:11.050
IT WITH THE POOR WHO ARE LIVING
00:42:11.050 --> 00:42:12.190
ON YOUR DOORSTEP?"
00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.090
AND HE SAID: "NO, THE POOR DO
00:42:14.090 --> 00:42:15.000
NOT DESERVE OUR HELP.
00:42:17.080 --> 00:42:20.080
IF THEY WILL TAKE THE LITTLE
00:42:20.080 --> 00:42:20.290
THEY HAVE AND GIVE IT TO THE
00:42:20.290 --> 00:42:21.200
PRIESTS, THEN THEY MAY BE
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:22.090
REINCARNATED INTO A BETTER
00:42:22.090 --> 00:42:22.280
PLACE NEXT TIME."
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.050
- BIL: UGH!
00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:24.180
- SHEILA: "IT'S CALLED KARMA."
00:42:24.180 --> 00:42:26.120
THE GRACE OF GOD IS THE
00:42:26.120 --> 00:42:28.060
ANTITHESIS OF KARMA: WE GET
00:42:28.060 --> 00:42:29.230
WHAT WE DON'T DESERVE.
00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:32.190
GOD'S GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR
00:42:32.190 --> 00:42:33.170
US--
00:42:33.170 --> 00:42:34.140
- BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
00:42:34.140 --> 00:42:35.160
- SHEILA: --WHEN WE WILL REST
00:42:35.160 --> 00:42:36.070
ON HIM.
00:42:36.070 --> 00:42:36.170
- BIL: ABSOLUTELY.
00:42:36.170 --> 00:42:37.030
ABSOLUTELY.
00:42:37.030 --> 00:42:37.170
[APPLAUSE]
00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:38.100
- SHEILA: IT'S AMAZING!
00:42:38.100 --> 00:42:39.100
- BIL: IT IS AMAZING.
00:42:39.100 --> 00:42:39.270
- SHEILA: SOME RELIGIONS ASK
00:42:39.270 --> 00:42:40.190
THEIR BELIEVERS TO BLEED FOR
00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:41.210
THEM.
00:42:41.210 --> 00:42:42.120
WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE A
00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:44.080
GOD WHO BLED FOR US.
00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:45.200
- BIL: WOW...
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.050
MY GOODNESS, THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:48.170
AGAIN, I WANNA TAKE NOTES.
00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:49.220
OKAY, SO, I'M JUST SOAKIN' THIS
00:42:49.220 --> 00:42:51.280
IN.
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:52.240
SHEILA, THIS IS JUST BEAUTIFUL.
00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:53.160
I LOVE THE PRACTICAL AND I LOVE
00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.110
THE SPIRITUAL SIDE TO THIS,
00:42:54.110 --> 00:42:55.010
TOO.
00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:56.010
YOU'RE JUST LAYERING THIS SO
00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:57.000
BEAUTIFULLY.
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:58.250
IN THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A
00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:00.180
LOT-- YOU HAVE A LOT OF
00:43:00.180 --> 00:43:01.140
YOU TALK ABOUT CELEBRATING THE
00:43:02.230 --> 00:43:03.190
SCARS, TATTOOS OF TRIUMPH, BUT,
00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:04.160
ALSO, YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING A
00:43:04.160 --> 00:43:05.220
DECISION.
00:43:05.220 --> 00:43:07.240
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:09.280
- BIL: UNPACK THAT FOR ME.
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.070
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:12.150
- BIL: WHEN DID THAT
00:43:12.150 --> 00:43:13.020
DECISION-- WHEN DID THE
00:43:13.020 --> 00:43:14.140
DECISION NOT JUST TO GO TO GOD
00:43:14.140 --> 00:43:16.100
THAT GOD WOULD HELP ME, BUT
00:43:16.100 --> 00:43:17.250
WHEN DID YOU SAY, "I'M IN
00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:19.070
PROCESS AND I'M DECIDING TO GO
00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:20.090
DOWN THIS JOURNEY"?
00:43:20.090 --> 00:43:21.220
WHEN DID THAT REALLY BEGIN FOR
00:43:21.220 --> 00:43:22.140
YOU?
00:43:22.140 --> 00:43:23.270
- SHEILA: WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:43:23.270 --> 00:43:24.190
INTERESTING.
00:43:24.190 --> 00:43:25.230
I WAS MAYBE...SIX MONTHS TO A
00:43:25.230 --> 00:43:27.110
YEAR OUTSIDE-- OUT OF THE
00:43:27.110 --> 00:43:28.000
HOSPITAL.
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:28.290
- BIL: OKAY.
00:43:28.290 --> 00:43:29.140
- SHEILA: AND I WAS SPEAKING
00:43:29.140 --> 00:43:30.120
AT A CHURCH IN SEATTLE,
00:43:30.120 --> 00:43:31.060
WASHINGTON.
00:43:31.060 --> 00:43:33.280
AND THE PASTOR SAID: "MY WIFE
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:34.190
IS NOT GONNA COME, 'CAUSE SHE
00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:35.230
STRUGGLES WITH DEPRESSION AND
00:43:35.230 --> 00:43:37.000
SHE TAKES MEDICATION, BUT SHE
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.160
DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE
00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:39.200
CHURCH TO KNOW, 'CAUSE SHE
00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:40.170
THINKS IT WILL HARM MY
00:43:40.170 --> 00:43:41.270
MINISTRY.
00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:42.090
WOULD YOU MEET WITH HER
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:43.120
PRIVATELY?"
00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:43.260
I SAID, "IF SHE'S WILLING TO,
00:43:43.260 --> 00:43:45.120
ABSOLUTELY."
00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:47.020
SO, I ASKED FOR A SMALL ROOM AT
00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:48.060
THE HOTEL.
00:43:48.060 --> 00:43:49.010
AND WHEN SHE CAME IN, SHE
00:43:49.010 --> 00:43:50.080
WOULDN'T MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH
00:43:50.080 --> 00:43:51.000
ME.
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:51.160
AND I SAID TO HER, "YOU DON'T
00:43:51.160 --> 00:43:52.180
HAVE TO TELL ME A THING ABOUT
00:43:52.180 --> 00:43:53.180
YOUR LIFE, BUT WOULD YOU LET ME
00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:55.090
TELL YOU SOMETHING?"
00:43:55.090 --> 00:43:56.150
AND I SHARE WITH HER THIS
00:43:56.150 --> 00:43:57.040
JOURNEY.
00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:58.090
AND AFTER AN HOUR, WE WERE BOTH
00:43:58.090 --> 00:43:59.210
ON OUR KNEES, TEARS POURING
00:43:59.210 --> 00:44:02.050
DOWN OUR FACE, AT THE THRONE OF
00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:03.220
GRACE AND MERCY.
00:44:03.220 --> 00:44:05.050
AND WHEN I WATCHED THAT WOMAN
00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:06.140
RUN INTO THE ARMS OF HER
00:44:06.140 --> 00:44:08.070
HUSBAND, I THOUGHT: LORD, I
00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:09.060
WOULD DO ALL OF THAT AGAIN FOR
00:44:09.060 --> 00:44:10.270
THAT ONE WOMAN.
00:44:10.270 --> 00:44:11.190
- BIL: WOW.
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:12.230
- SHEILA: AND AT THAT POINT, I
00:44:12.230 --> 00:44:13.200
SAID, "LORD, I AM ALL IN TILL
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:15.050
IT'S ALL OVER -- 24/7 ON
00:44:15.050 --> 00:44:18.020
[APPLAUSE]
00:44:19.230 --> 00:44:20.040
- BIL: WOW.
00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:20.170
THAT'S AMAZING.
00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:21.010
YOU KNOW, IT CAN-- IT HAPPENS
00:44:21.010 --> 00:44:23.160
TO EVERYONE.
00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:26.180
EVERYONE CAN GET STUCK.
00:44:26.180 --> 00:44:27.060
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:27.260
- BIL: AND SO, WHEN YOU'RE
00:44:27.260 --> 00:44:30.020
STUCK, OFTENTIMES, WE NEED AN
00:44:30.020 --> 00:44:31.030
OUTSIDE SOURCE FROM SOMEONE
00:44:31.030 --> 00:44:32.230
WITH SOME WISDOM WHO'S BEEN
00:44:32.230 --> 00:44:34.020
DOWN THAT ROAD, RIGHT?
00:44:34.020 --> 00:44:35.160
ALCOHOLICS ARE BEST HELPED BY A
00:44:35.160 --> 00:44:37.180
FORMER...ALCOHOLIC, RIGHT?
00:44:37.180 --> 00:44:39.280
SO, YOU SAY: I'M STUCK AND I
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.010
FEEL THIS SHAME, AND GUILT, AND
00:44:41.010 --> 00:44:41.270
A STRUGGLE.
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.000
AND I FEEL BROKEN.
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.100
WHY DON'T YOU GET SOME HELP
00:44:49.220 --> 00:44:50.120
FROM SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN RIGHT
00:44:50.120 --> 00:44:52.000
WHERE YOU ARE, AND HAS GOTTEN
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.030
THROUGH THIS, AND KNOWS GOD'S
00:44:53.030 --> 00:44:55.130
WORD?
00:44:55.130 --> 00:44:56.040
YOU'RE NOT-- "WELL, NO, I'M NOT
00:44:56.040 --> 00:44:56.260
GONNA TRUST IN ALL THAT PSYCHO
00:44:56.260 --> 00:44:57.180
STUFF.
00:44:57.180 --> 00:44:57.270
I'M GONNA-- I WANT JUST THE
00:44:57.270 --> 00:44:58.170
WORD OF GOD."
00:44:58.170 --> 00:44:59.000
NO, WHAT IF I WERE TO TELL YOU
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.210
IT'S BOTH?
00:44:59.210 --> 00:45:00.280
WHAT IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:01.270
YOU NEED TO GET GODLY WISDOM
00:45:01.270 --> 00:45:03.120
THAT'S BASED UPON THE WORD OF
00:45:03.120 --> 00:45:05.140
GOD, GET THE PHYSICAL HELP YOU
00:45:05.140 --> 00:45:06.160
NEED, TOO?
00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:08.070
IT'S NOT ONE OR THE OTHER; IT'S
00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:08.290
BOTH.
00:45:08.290 --> 00:45:09.100
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:45:09.100 --> 00:45:10.050
- BIL: IT'S LIKE I TELL PEOPLE
00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:10.270
-- YOU KNOW, COME TO CHURCH, GO
00:45:10.270 --> 00:45:11.190
TO THE 12-STEP, TOO.
00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:14.090
RIGHT?
00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:14.210
- SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
00:45:14.210 --> 00:45:15.090
- BIL: GO TO THE BOTH.
00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:15.270
- SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
00:45:15.270 --> 00:45:16.150
- BIL: DON'T DO ONE OR THE
00:45:16.150 --> 00:45:17.050
OTHER.
00:45:17.050 --> 00:45:17.140
GO TO THE BOTH.
00:45:17.140 --> 00:45:17.280
TAKE YOUR MEDICINE AND TRUST
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.180
GOD.
00:45:18.180 --> 00:45:18.260
IT'S NOT OR THE OTHER.
00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:19.130
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, RIGHT
00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:20.170
NOW.
00:45:20.170 --> 00:45:20.280
I WANT YOU TO PICK UP THIS
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.180
BOOK.
00:45:21.180 --> 00:45:21.270
AND SO, HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU
00:45:21.270 --> 00:45:22.190
TO DO: I WANT YOU TO CALL THE
00:45:22.190 --> 00:45:23.100
NUMBER ON THAT SCREEN, RIGHT
00:45:23.100 --> 00:45:24.010
NOW.
00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:24.140
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO:
00:45:24.140 --> 00:45:25.130
FOR A $60 GIFT OR MORE TO TBN,
00:45:25.130 --> 00:45:26.180
TO THE MINISTRY HERE, YOU'RE
00:45:26.180 --> 00:45:28.150
GONNA GET TWO AMAZING BOOKS.
00:45:28.150 --> 00:45:29.200
DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S WRITTEN
00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:31.000
THIS GREAT BOOK CALLED
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.050
"OVERCOMER: 8 WAYS TO LIVE A
00:45:32.050 --> 00:45:33.200
LIFE OF UNSTOPPABLE STRENGTH."
00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:35.000
HE'S GOT A PLAN FOR EIGHT, TOO.
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:36.080
AND SO DOES SHEILA WALSH HAVE A
00:45:36.080 --> 00:45:37.240
GREAT PLAN FOR YOU, AS WELL.
00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:39.280
"IT'S OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY."
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.080
MAKE SURE THAT YOU PICK THIS
00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:43.130
UP, RIGHT NOW.
00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:43.260
"MOVING FORWARD ONE DAY AT A
00:45:43.260 --> 00:45:45.080
TIME."
00:45:45.080 --> 00:45:45.260
WHEN YOU FEEL OVERWHELMED, YOU
00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:47.020
NEED TO KNOW: WHAT DO I DO
00:45:47.020 --> 00:45:48.080
TODAY?
00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:48.220
THIS IS WHAT YOU DO, RIGHT NOW.
00:45:48.220 --> 00:45:50.020
YOU PICK UP THE PHONE, CALL
00:45:50.020 --> 00:45:50.220
TODAY.
00:45:50.220 --> 00:45:51.230
THIS IS GONNA HELP TAKE THE
00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.050
GOSPEL AND THE TRUTH OF CHRIST
00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:54.170
FURTHER, ANYWAYS, SO IT'S
00:45:54.170 --> 00:45:55.060
ALWAYS GOING FOR GOOD, ANYWAYS.
00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:57.140
PICK UP THESE BOOKS, RIGHT NOW.
00:45:57.140 --> 00:45:58.060
GET YOUR COPY.
00:45:58.060 --> 00:46:00.170
THIS WILL HELP YOU.
00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:03.150
THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE STEPS
00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:04.050
YOU NEED TO GET THROUGH WHAT
00:46:04.050 --> 00:46:06.070
YOU ARE FACING, RIGHT NOW.
00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:06.260
SHEILA, WE ALL FACE
00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:08.290
OVERWHELMING ODDS, OVERWHELMING
00:46:08.290 --> 00:46:09.260
STRUGGLES.
00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:11.260
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO
00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:12.220
DOESN'T HAVE A STORY.
00:46:12.220 --> 00:46:14.030
"OH, YOU DON'T KNOW THE PAIN
00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:14.230
I'M GOING THROUGH."
00:46:14.230 --> 00:46:15.130
WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THOSE
00:46:15.130 --> 00:46:16.010
STORIES.
00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:16.140
SO, WHEN YOU'RE AT THAT MOMENT
00:46:16.140 --> 00:46:17.170
OF BEING BROKEN APART, YOU'RE
00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:20.260
STRUGGLING, WHAT KIND OF
00:46:20.260 --> 00:46:23.110
CONVERSATION ARE YOU HAVING
00:46:23.110 --> 00:46:24.190
WITH GOD IN THAT MOMENT?
00:46:24.190 --> 00:46:25.090
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR
00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:26.040
YOU?
00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:26.290
- SHEILA: WOW...
00:46:26.290 --> 00:46:28.170
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:31.190
REAL TURNING POINTS FOR ME -- I
00:46:31.190 --> 00:46:33.230
LOOK BACK TO WHEN I WAS-- AFTER
00:46:33.230 --> 00:46:35.170
I'D BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL FOR
00:46:35.170 --> 00:46:36.280
MAYBE THREE WEEKS, MY DOCTOR
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.190
SAID: "I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A
00:46:37.190 --> 00:46:38.120
TRIP OUTSIDE THE HOSPITAL.
00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:39.200
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO A
00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:40.090
MOVIE, YOU CAN GO TO A MALL."
00:46:40.090 --> 00:46:41.150
AND I SAID: "NO, I WOULD JUST
00:46:41.150 --> 00:46:42.060
LIKE TO GO TO CHURCH.
00:46:42.060 --> 00:46:42.230
I DON'T CARE WHICH
00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:43.280
DENOMINATION, AS LONG AS IT'S A
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.060
AND I SAT IN THE VERY BACK
00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:48.070
ROW...
00:46:48.070 --> 00:46:48.220
- BIL: YEAH.
00:46:48.220 --> 00:46:49.050
- SHEILA: ...LISTENING TO THE
00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:49.260
WORDS AND FEELING LOST.
00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:50.260
BUT THE PASTOR, AT THE END OF
00:46:50.260 --> 00:46:53.020
HIS MESSAGE, HE SAID: "SOME OF
00:46:53.020 --> 00:46:54.060
YOU IN HERE FEEL AS IF YOU'RE
00:46:54.060 --> 00:46:55.200
DEAD INSIDE.
00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.140
YOU CAN ALMOST HEAR THEM BEGIN
00:46:56.140 --> 00:46:58.050
TO HEAP THE DIRT ON TOP OF
00:46:58.050 --> 00:46:59.180
YOU."
00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:00.050
- BIL: MMH.
00:47:00.050 --> 00:47:00.240
- SHEILA: BUT HE SAID: "I WANT
00:47:00.240 --> 00:47:01.160
YOU TO KNOW JESUS IS HERE.
00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:03.140
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET
00:47:03.140 --> 00:47:04.100
YOURSELF OUT OF THAT HOLE.
00:47:04.100 --> 00:47:05.160
YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO CALL ON THE
00:47:06.060 --> 00:47:09.060
NAME OF THE LORD AND HE WILL
00:47:09.060 --> 00:47:09.260
REACH IN AND GRAB
00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:11.170
HOLD OF YOU."
00:47:11.170 --> 00:47:12.040
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:47:12.040 --> 00:47:12.190
- SHEILA: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
00:47:12.190 --> 00:47:13.180
THE TRADITIONS AT THAT CHURCH
00:47:13.180 --> 00:47:14.220
WERE, BUT AT THE END OF THAT
00:47:14.220 --> 00:47:15.250
SERVICE, I RAN TO THE FRONT AND
00:47:15.250 --> 00:47:17.140
I LAY FACE DOWN IN FRONT OF THE
00:47:17.140 --> 00:47:19.120
CROSS.
00:47:19.120 --> 00:47:19.290
AND A HYMN THAT MY GRANDMOTHER
00:47:19.290 --> 00:47:22.120
USED TO SING TO ME, JUST AS A
00:47:22.120 --> 00:47:23.090
WEE GIRL, CAME BACK TO ME.
00:47:23.090 --> 00:47:24.200
BUT I UNDERSTOOD THEM...FOR THE
00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.220
FIRST TIME.
00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:26.240
"ROCK OF AGES..."
00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:29.000
- BIL: MMH.
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:29.150
- SHEILA: "...CLEFT FOR ME,
00:47:29.150 --> 00:47:30.220
LET ME HIDE MYSELF IN THEE..."
00:47:30.220 --> 00:47:33.010
BUT THESE TWO LINES:
00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:34.110
"NOTHING IN MY HANDS I BRING,
00:47:34.110 --> 00:47:36.160
SIMPLY TO THY CROSS I CLING."
00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:39.250
- BIL: WOW.
00:47:39.250 --> 00:47:40.090
- SHEILA: AND I FINALLY GOT
00:47:40.090 --> 00:47:41.060
IT: I'M NOT THE GOOD NEWS;
00:47:41.060 --> 00:47:41.290
JESUS IS.
00:47:41.290 --> 00:47:43.120
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:47:43.120 --> 00:47:44.240
WOW.
00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:45.190
[APPLAUSE]
00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:46.060
THAT'S SO GOOD!
00:47:46.060 --> 00:47:46.200
MY GOODNESS.
00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:48.030
OKAY, I-- I WANNA JUST
00:47:48.030 --> 00:47:50.050
CHALLENGE YOU GUYS THAT ARE
00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:52.020
WATCHING, RIGHT NOW.
00:47:52.020 --> 00:47:54.040
MAYBE THIS IS MAKIN' SENSE TO
00:47:54.040 --> 00:47:54.250
YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME.
00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:55.160
MAYBE YOU TURNED OVER TO THIS
00:47:55.160 --> 00:47:56.260
CHANNEL TO ASK THE QUESTION:
00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:58.150
"IS THIS REAL?
00:47:58.150 --> 00:47:59.100
IS THIS REALLY REAL OR NOT?
00:47:59.100 --> 00:48:02.000
I DON'T KNOW...I DON'T KNOW IF
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.090
I CAN BUY ALL THIS.
00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:04.040
MAYBE-- MAYBE YOU WENT TO
00:48:04.040 --> 00:48:06.130
CHURCH GROWING UP, OR MAYBE
00:48:06.130 --> 00:48:07.110
YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, AN
00:48:07.110 --> 00:48:08.090
OVER-RELIGIOUS AUNT -- RIGHT?
00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:09.290
THAT JUST KIND OF...RUBBED
00:48:09.290 --> 00:48:12.080
YOU THE WRONG WAY.
00:48:12.080 --> 00:48:12.240
OR, MAYBE YOU SAW A PREACHER
00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:13.150
THAT YOU JUST WERE OFFENDED BY
00:48:13.150 --> 00:48:14.290
AND YOU THOUGHT, "THAT'S JUST
00:48:14.290 --> 00:48:15.200
NOT REAL."
00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:17.130
IF IT'S NOT REAL, WHY IS THIS
00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:18.200
MAKIN' SENSE TO YOU, NOW?
00:48:18.200 --> 00:48:19.180
WHY IS THIS SUDDENLY CONNECTING
00:48:19.180 --> 00:48:21.090
TO YOU?
00:48:21.090 --> 00:48:23.160
COULD IT BE THAT THERE REALLY
00:48:23.160 --> 00:48:24.070
IS A GOD WHO LOVES YOU...
00:48:24.070 --> 00:48:25.090
WHO DEEPLY LOVES YOU
00:48:25.090 --> 00:48:27.170
AND WANTS TO TOUCH YOUR
00:48:27.170 --> 00:48:28.250
LIFE, RIGHT NOW?
00:48:28.250 --> 00:48:30.000
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:30.290
CONNECTING WITH YOU.
00:48:30.290 --> 00:48:31.160
'CAUSE THAT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT
00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:33.200
SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO YOU.
00:48:33.200 --> 00:48:34.150
AND I WANNA GIVE YOU AN
00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:35.150
OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT NOW, TO GIVE
00:48:35.150 --> 00:48:36.070
YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST.
00:48:36.070 --> 00:48:37.160
RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN PRAY THIS
00:48:37.160 --> 00:48:39.180
PRAYER WITH ME, AND YOU CAN
00:48:39.180 --> 00:48:40.290
RECEIVE CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND
00:48:40.290 --> 00:48:41.210
YOUR SAVIOR.
00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:45.210
JUST BOW YOUR HEAD, RIGHT WHERE
00:48:45.210 --> 00:48:46.130
YOU ARE.
00:48:46.130 --> 00:48:46.290
LIVING ROOM -- THAT'S FINE.
00:48:46.290 --> 00:48:47.190
MAYBE YOU'RE WATCHING ON THE
00:48:47.190 --> 00:48:48.090
APP.
00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:48.180
THAT'S FINE.
00:48:48.180 --> 00:48:49.190
AND YOU JUST TRUST YOUR LIFE IN
00:48:49.190 --> 00:48:50.110
CHRIST'S HANDS.
00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:51.150
SCRIPTURE SAYS ANYONE WHO CALLS
00:48:51.150 --> 00:48:53.020
ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE
00:48:53.020 --> 00:48:54.120
SAVED.
00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:55.190
DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT
00:48:55.190 --> 00:48:56.140
PERFECT OR HAVE THE RIGHT
00:48:56.140 --> 00:48:57.240
WORDS.
00:48:57.240 --> 00:48:58.100
YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR
00:48:58.100 --> 00:48:59.150
LIFE UP.
00:48:59.150 --> 00:48:59.290
YOU COME TO CHRIST, JUST AS YOU
00:48:59.290 --> 00:49:01.000
ARE.
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.180
HE LOVES YOU ENOUGH TO MEET
00:49:02.180 --> 00:49:04.000
YOU, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.150
YOU CAN RECEIVE CHRIST, RIGHT
00:49:05.150 --> 00:49:06.120
NOW.
00:49:06.120 --> 00:49:07.110
YOU SEE, GOD SENT HIS SON,
00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:08.140
JESUS, TO DIE FOR YOU.
00:49:08.140 --> 00:49:09.010
THEN, HE ROSE AGAIN FROM THE
00:49:09.010 --> 00:49:10.250
GRAVE, PROVING THAT HE'S GOD
00:49:10.250 --> 00:49:12.200
AND NOW YOU CAN RECEIVE HIM.
00:49:12.200 --> 00:49:14.120
PRAY THIS PRAYER WITH ME.
00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:15.130
YOU CAN JUST SAY:
00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:16.000
DEAR JESUS, I REALIZE I NEED
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:16.200
YOU.
00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:19.110
I BELIEVE YOU DIED ON THE
00:49:19.110 --> 00:49:21.220
CROSS FOR ME.
00:49:21.220 --> 00:49:22.250
YOU PAID THE PRICE FOR MY SINS.
00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:25.260
AND I BELIEVE YOU ROSE AGAIN.
00:49:25.260 --> 00:49:28.220
I'D ASK YOU TO COME INTO MY
00:49:28.220 --> 00:49:30.240
HEART, BE MY LORD, AND BE MY
00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:33.100
SAVIOR.
00:49:33.100 --> 00:49:36.020
I REPENT OF MY SINS, I PUT YOU
00:49:36.020 --> 00:49:37.100
IN FIRST PLACE.
00:49:37.100 --> 00:49:39.150
THANK YOU, JESUS, FOR SAVING
00:49:39.150 --> 00:49:40.180
ME.
00:49:40.180 --> 00:49:42.270
IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
00:49:42.270 --> 00:49:45.110
ISN'T GOD GOOD?
00:49:45.120 --> 00:49:48.120
[APPLAUSE]
00:49:48.120 --> 00:49:49.200
HIS WORD IS SO TRUE.
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:50.060
IT REALLY IS.
00:49:50.060 --> 00:49:51.130
LISTEN, IF YOU ARE HURTING
00:49:51.130 --> 00:49:54.040
TODAY, YOU JUST NEED SOME HELP,
00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:55.160
YOU JUST NEED SOME
00:49:55.160 --> 00:49:56.020
ENCOURAGEMENT, I WANNA
00:49:56.020 --> 00:49:56.260
ENCOURAGE YOU: YOU TURNED TO
00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:58.110
THE RIGHT CHANNEL.
00:49:58.110 --> 00:49:59.110
AND, LISTEN, EVEN WHEN THIS
00:49:59.110 --> 00:50:00.230
PROGRAM IS DONE, DON'T TURN
00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:01.160
THAT CHANNEL.
00:50:01.160 --> 00:50:01.290
THIS NEED TO BECOME HABIT FOR
00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:03.000
YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTIN' FULL
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.060
OF THE WORD OF GOD EVERY SINGLE
00:50:04.060 --> 00:50:06.040
HOUR.
00:50:06.040 --> 00:50:06.260
AND SO, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
00:50:06.260 --> 00:50:08.030
JUST TO STAY WITH US, MAKE THIS
00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:08.250
A HABIT.
00:50:08.250 --> 00:50:10.100
LISTEN, YOU CAN TURN IT OVER TO
00:50:10.100 --> 00:50:11.210
THE NEWS AND IT'S GONNA MAKE
00:50:11.210 --> 00:50:13.030
YOU DEPRESSED OR ANGRY.
00:50:13.030 --> 00:50:13.220
OR YOU CAN TURN OVER TO HEAR
00:50:13.220 --> 00:50:14.210
GOD'S WORD.
00:50:14.210 --> 00:50:15.230
AND SO, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
00:50:15.230 --> 00:50:16.260
TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM,
00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:17.220
BE A PART OF THIS STATION.
00:50:17.220 --> 00:50:19.040
TUNE IN REGULARLY.
00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:20.140
IT'S REALLY GREAT STUFF.
00:50:20.140 --> 00:50:21.090
AND, ALSO, PLEASE PICK UP THIS
00:50:21.090 --> 00:50:22.060
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU DO TO
00:50:23.210 --> 00:50:24.110
THAT.
00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:25.090
LISTEN, THIS IS GREAT.
00:50:25.090 --> 00:50:25.270
I'M NOT TRYIN' TO GET SOMETHING
00:50:25.270 --> 00:50:26.240
FROM YOU, RIGHT NOW; I'M TRYING
00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:27.210
TO GET SOMETHING TO YOU.
00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:29.060
OKAY?
00:50:29.060 --> 00:50:29.220
SO, WOULD YOU PLEASE PICK UP A
00:50:29.220 --> 00:50:31.070
COPY OF THIS BOOK, RIGHT NOW?
00:50:31.070 --> 00:50:32.150
YOU CAN CALL THE NUMBER ON
00:50:32.150 --> 00:50:33.180
THE SCREEN, RIGHT NOW.
00:50:33.180 --> 00:50:34.220
AND THERE'S A-- RIGHT NOW, FOR
00:50:34.220 --> 00:50:35.260
A GIFT OF $60 OR MORE, YOU GET
00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:36.180
A COPY OF SHEILA'S NEWEST BOOK.
00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:41.210
YOU'RE GONNA GET EIGHT STEPS
00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:42.120
THAT ARE GONNA SET YOU FREE.
00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:43.230
THEN, ALSO, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU
00:50:43.230 --> 00:50:44.230
ALSO GET DR. DAVID JEREMIAH'S
00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:46.110
BOOK "OVERCOMER."
00:50:46.110 --> 00:50:48.290
THIS IS A GREAT POWER-
00:50:48.290 --> 00:50:50.210
PACKED...PACK THAT YOU WANNA
00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:53.010
GET.
00:50:53.010 --> 00:50:53.170
PLEASE DO THAT TODAY.
00:50:53.170 --> 00:50:54.110
GET THESE.
00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:54.250
I THINK IT'LL REALLY BE A
00:50:54.250 --> 00:50:55.280
BLESSING TO YOU.
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:56.250
GET IT FOR SOMEONE YOU LOVE.
00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:57.220
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO
00:50:57.220 --> 00:50:58.140
THAT.
00:50:58.140 --> 00:50:59.000
I'LL SOMETIMES GET A BOOK
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.000
AND THEN-- AND THEN WRITE,
00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.030
AS IF I'M THE AUTHOR,
00:51:03.030 --> 00:51:05.100
WRITE A LITTLE THING IN IT,
00:51:05.100 --> 00:51:06.180
SIGN MY NAME, AND THEN GIVE IT
00:51:06.180 --> 00:51:07.090
TO SOMEBODY.
00:51:07.090 --> 00:51:07.210
YOU EVER DO THAT?
00:51:07.210 --> 00:51:08.060
LIKE, YOU JUST-- JUST TO BE A
00:51:08.060 --> 00:51:08.270
BLESSING.
00:51:08.270 --> 00:51:09.080
- SHEILA: DR. JEREMIAH -- CAN
00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:09.290
I JUST SAY A WORD ABOUT THAT?
00:51:09.290 --> 00:51:10.200
- BIL: PLEASE.
00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:11.210
- SHEILA: HE IS REALLY
00:51:11.210 --> 00:51:12.090
MY MENTOR.
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:12.200
HE IS ONE OF MY DEAREST
00:51:12.200 --> 00:51:13.080
FRIENDS.
00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:13.190
THIS BOOK IS LIFE-CHANGING.
00:51:13.190 --> 00:51:15.280
- BIL: I LOVE IT.
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:16.130
- SHEILA: HE TALKS ABOUT
00:51:16.130 --> 00:51:17.130
OVERCOMING EVERYTHING THAT WE
00:51:17.130 --> 00:51:18.190
ARE FACING, RIGHT NOW, WHETHER
00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:20.080
YOU'RE FACING FINANCIAL
00:51:20.080 --> 00:51:21.070
TROUBLES, RELATIONAL
00:51:21.070 --> 00:51:21.250
TROUBLES.
00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:23.040
WHATEVER IT IS, THIS IS AN
00:51:23.040 --> 00:51:24.140
INCREDIBLE BOOK.
00:51:24.140 --> 00:51:26.010
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:51:26.010 --> 00:51:26.150
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:27.080
YES, PLEASE GET A COPY.
00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:27.280
CALL TODAY.
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:28.210
YOU DON'T WANNA MISS THIS
00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:29.230
OPPORTUNITY.
00:51:29.230 --> 00:51:30.070
THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
00:51:30.070 --> 00:51:31.190
TBN MADE THIS DEAL AVAILABLE
00:51:31.190 --> 00:51:33.040
JUST FOR YOU.
00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:33.290
AND, NOT ONLY THAT, YOU'RE
00:51:33.290 --> 00:51:35.130
HELPING TAKE THE GOSPEL ALL
00:51:35.130 --> 00:51:36.100
AROUND THE WORLD.
00:51:36.100 --> 00:51:37.170
IT'S A WIN-WIN.
00:51:37.170 --> 00:51:38.140
YOU GET BLESSED AND YOU ALSO
00:51:38.140 --> 00:51:39.170
GET TO BE A BLESSING FOR
00:51:39.170 --> 00:51:40.200
OTHERS.
00:51:40.200 --> 00:51:42.140
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET A
00:51:42.140 --> 00:51:43.050
COPY TODAY.
00:51:43.050 --> 00:51:44.130
SO, IF THERE'S ONE LAST THOUGHT
00:51:44.130 --> 00:51:45.180
YOU COULD LEAVE US WITH,
00:51:45.180 --> 00:51:46.220
SHEILA, WITH THIS BOOK, WHAT
00:51:46.220 --> 00:51:47.130
- SHEILA: IT'S THAT YOU GET TO
00:51:49.020 --> 00:51:49.240
START AGAIN...AND AGAIN...AND
00:51:49.240 --> 00:51:50.150
AGAIN...
00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.090
- BIL: SO, I CAN START AGAIN--
00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:54.010
- SHEILA: ...AND AGAIN.
00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:54.200
- BIL: --AGAIN?
00:51:54.200 --> 00:51:55.040
- SHEILA: AGAIN.
00:51:55.040 --> 00:51:55.190
[LAUGHTER]
00:51:55.190 --> 00:51:56.000
YOU GET TO START--
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:56.210
YEAH, 'CAUSE, SOMETIMES, YOU
00:51:56.210 --> 00:51:57.120
KNOW, WE'LL THINK: YEAH, OKAY,
00:51:57.120 --> 00:51:58.040
LORD, I'VE GOT IT.
00:51:58.040 --> 00:51:59.270
EIGHT STEPS.
00:51:59.270 --> 00:52:00.110
I'M ON IT.
00:52:00.110 --> 00:52:00.230
AND THEN, SOMETHING HAPPENS AND
00:52:00.230 --> 00:52:01.150
YOU FALL DOWN AND YOU THINK,
00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:02.170
"WELL, I'M SUCH A FAILURE."
00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:03.140
I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE:
00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:04.200
CONDEMNATION IS NEVER FROM
00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:05.280
CHRIST.
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.110
IT'S NEVER FROM THE HOLY
00:52:07.110 --> 00:52:08.040
SPIRIT.
00:52:08.040 --> 00:52:09.070
CONVICTION IS FROM THE HOLY
00:52:09.070 --> 00:52:10.130
SPIRIT.
00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:10.270
CONDEMNATION -- SCRIPTURE SAYS,
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:14.220
ROMANS 8:1, "THERE IS
00:52:14.220 --> 00:52:15.210
THEREFORE, NOW, NO CONDEMNATION
00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:18.100
TO THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST
00:52:18.100 --> 00:52:18.290
JESUS..."
00:52:18.290 --> 00:52:19.100
SO, WHEN YOU FEEL CONDEMNED,
00:52:19.100 --> 00:52:20.150
JUST RECOGNIZE WHERE IT COMES
00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:21.060
FROM AND SAY, "THANK YOU FOR
00:52:21.060 --> 00:52:22.040
YOUR GRACE, LORD," AND GET BACK
00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:23.050
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:52:26.030 --> 00:52:26.210
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:52:26.210 --> 00:52:27.050
[APPLAUSE]
00:52:27.050 --> 00:52:27.160
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ALL FALL
00:52:27.160 --> 00:52:28.070
DOWN.
00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:28.160
- SHEILA: YEAH, WE ALL DO!
00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:29.060
- BIL: WE ALL DO.
00:52:29.060 --> 00:52:29.210
[APPLAUSE]
00:52:29.210 --> 00:52:30.240
SO, WHEN YOU FALL DOWN, YOU GET
00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:31.160
UP.
00:52:31.160 --> 00:52:33.010
JUST LIKE A BABY.
00:52:33.010 --> 00:52:34.040
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE A BABY
00:52:34.040 --> 00:52:34.250
FALL DOWN AND GO, "OH...WELL,
00:52:34.250 --> 00:52:35.160
NO HOPE THERE."
00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:36.080
- SHEILA: "YOU'RE A LOSER."
00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:36.280
YEAH.
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:37.070
- BIL: "NEVER GONNA WALK.
00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:37.260
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN."
00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:38.120
- SHEILA: HA!
00:52:38.120 --> 00:52:38.270
- BIL: YOU KNOW, NOW, THEY
00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:39.170
JUST GET BACK UP AGAIN.
00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:40.050
RIGHT?
00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:40.140
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:52:40.140 --> 00:52:40.280
- BIL: SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:41.180
LEAN ON SOMETHING OR SOMEONE
00:52:41.180 --> 00:52:42.080
ELSE, GET A LITTLE HELP.
00:52:42.080 --> 00:52:42.260
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:43.100
- BIL: THAT'S WHAT THIS BOOK
00:52:43.100 --> 00:52:44.010
CAN DO FOR YOU.
00:52:44.010 --> 00:52:46.240
IT'S SOMETHING TO LEAN ON,
00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:47.130
RIGHT?
00:52:47.130 --> 00:52:47.220
YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
00:52:47.220 --> 00:52:48.180
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOD
00:52:48.180 --> 00:52:49.180
TAUGHT ME A LONG TIME AGO WAS
00:52:49.180 --> 00:52:50.190
WHENEVER I'M AT ONE POINT AND
00:52:50.190 --> 00:52:51.100
ASKING GOD TO TAKE ME TO
00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:54.110
ANOTHER, I'VE LEARNED TO PRAY
00:52:54.110 --> 00:52:56.090
THIS PRAYER: GOD, WHAT'S THE
00:52:56.090 --> 00:52:57.170
VEHICLE THAT I NEED TO GO FROM
00:52:57.170 --> 00:52:58.080
HERE TO THERE?
00:52:58.080 --> 00:52:59.180
THERE'S A DIFFERENT VEHICLE FOR
00:52:59.180 --> 00:53:00.120
EVERYTHING.
00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:01.060
- SHEILA: THAT'S GOOD.
00:53:01.060 --> 00:53:01.260
- BIL: DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU
00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:02.160
WANNA GO.
00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:02.270
YOU WANNA GO HALF ACROSS THE
00:53:02.270 --> 00:53:03.210
WORLD?
00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:04.030
THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DO IT.
00:53:04.030 --> 00:53:05.020
YOU'VE DONE MULTIPLE TO-- I
00:53:05.020 --> 00:53:06.020
MEAN, SCOTLAND ALL THE WAY TO
00:53:06.020 --> 00:53:06.290
AMERICA, RIGHT?
00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:07.130
YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE IT ALL.
00:53:07.130 --> 00:53:08.040
WHAT'S THE VEHICLE?
00:53:08.040 --> 00:53:08.230
THIS IS A VEHICLE.
00:53:08.230 --> 00:53:11.170
THIS IS A VEHICLE TO FREEDOM, A
00:53:11.170 --> 00:53:12.280
VEHICLE TO BE RELEASED FROM
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.240
SHAME...
00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:17.090
- SHEILA: MMH...
00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:17.240
- BIL: ...FROM THE GUILT, FROM
00:53:17.240 --> 00:53:18.210
FEELING LIKE I JUST-- MY LIFE
00:53:18.210 --> 00:53:19.120
IS NOT RIGHT.
00:53:19.120 --> 00:53:20.030
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH
00:53:20.030 --> 00:53:20.230
ME.
00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:21.160
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:53:21.160 --> 00:53:22.120
- BIL: THIS IS A VEHICLE.
00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:23.080
THIS CAN HELP YOU.
00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:26.040
THIS BOOK IS A TOOL IN YOUR
00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:28.240
HAND FROM GOD TO HELP YOU.
00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:29.220
PICK THIS UP TODAY.
00:53:29.220 --> 00:53:30.250
LISTEN, IT'S A GREAT PACK.
00:53:30.250 --> 00:53:32.080
YOU GET BOTH DR. DAVID
00:53:32.080 --> 00:53:33.040
JEREMIAH'S BOOK, AS WELL AS
00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:34.150
YOURS.
00:53:34.150 --> 00:53:34.280
SHEILA, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:35.190
JUST TO KEEP GETTING THE WORD
00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:37.040
OUT.
00:53:37.040 --> 00:53:37.160
WOULD YOU, PLEASE, JUST COME
00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:38.070
BACK?
00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:38.220
WOULD YOU DO THAT, BY THE WAY?
00:53:38.220 --> 00:53:39.230
- SHEILA: I WOULD LOVE IT.
00:53:39.230 --> 00:53:40.130
- BIL: WOULDN'T IT BE FUN TO
00:53:40.130 --> 00:53:41.100
HAVE SHEILA BACK AGAIN?
00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:42.100
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:42.100 --> 00:53:42.270
[SHEILA LAUGHS]
00:53:42.270 --> 00:53:43.180
- SHEILA: THANK YOU.
00:53:43.180 --> 00:53:44.250
- BIL: WOULDN'T IT BE BLESSED
00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:46.030
TO DO THAT?
00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:46.270
- SHEILA: I'D LOVE IT.
00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:47.150
- BIL: I MEAN, WHAT A
00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:48.020
BLESSING.
00:53:48.020 --> 00:53:48.130
I GOT TO MEET YOUR HUSBAND.
00:53:48.130 --> 00:53:49.030
- SHEILA: I WANNA MEET YOUR
00:53:49.250 --> 00:53:50.150
WIFE!
00:53:50.150 --> 00:53:50.240
YOUR WIFE SOUNDS ADORABLE.
00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:52.170
- BIL: SHE'S A BLESSING.
00:53:52.170 --> 00:53:53.060
SHE'S SO--
00:53:53.060 --> 00:53:53.180
SHE'S BEAUTIFUL.
00:53:53.180 --> 00:53:54.030
PEOPLE SAY, "HOW'D YOU DO
00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:54.220
THAT?"
00:53:54.220 --> 00:53:55.010
I'M LIKE: "I DON'T KNOW.
00:53:55.010 --> 00:53:55.200
I'M A SALESMAN.
00:53:55.200 --> 00:53:56.040
THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
00:53:56.040 --> 00:53:56.200
[SHEILA LAUGHS]
00:53:56.200 --> 00:53:57.040
I'M JUST-- GOD'S GOOD.
00:53:57.040 --> 00:53:57.210
[LAUGHTER]
00:53:57.210 --> 00:53:58.030
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY."
00:53:58.030 --> 00:53:58.200
I'M VERY, VERY BLESSED.
00:53:58.200 --> 00:53:59.080
AND SO--
00:53:59.080 --> 00:53:59.180
YOU KNOW WHAT?
00:53:59.180 --> 00:54:00.090
I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU, THOUGH
00:54:00.090 --> 00:54:01.070
THAT JUST DON'T MISS--
00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:01.280
THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT HOUR.
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.060
AND I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN A
00:54:03.060 --> 00:54:04.110
BLESSING TO YOU.
00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:04.270
AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU: STAY
00:54:04.270 --> 00:54:05.260
WITH US.
00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:06.100
BUT, ALSO, GET THIS RESOURCE.
00:54:06.100 --> 00:54:07.170
I KNOW YOU THINK, "MAN, YOU'RE
00:54:07.170 --> 00:54:08.220
JUST BEATING A DEAD DRUM,
00:54:08.220 --> 00:54:09.110
HERE."
00:54:09.110 --> 00:54:09.200
NO, I'M REALLY NOT.
00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:10.060
BECAUSE I KNOW THIS CAN REALLY
00:54:10.060 --> 00:54:10.270
HELP YOU.
00:54:10.270 --> 00:54:11.080
BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING I'VE
00:54:11.080 --> 00:54:12.010
LEARNED: THERE COULD BE ONE
00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:12.270
PAGE IN THIS BOOK THAT COULD
00:54:12.270 --> 00:54:14.260
CHANGE EVERYTHING.
00:54:14.260 --> 00:54:15.250
HAS THAT HAPPENED FOR YOU?
00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:17.020
- SHEILA: OH, ABSOLUTELY.
00:54:17.020 --> 00:54:17.250
- BIL: I HAVE PAGES IN BOOKS,
00:54:17.250 --> 00:54:19.010
I'M LIKE: THAT PAGE STOPPED ME
00:54:19.010 --> 00:54:20.030
COLD.
00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:21.000
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS I READ
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.110
THAT I STARTED A CHURCH OFF
00:54:22.110 --> 00:54:23.150
OF...
00:54:23.150 --> 00:54:23.280
- SHEILA: MM-HMM.
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.130
- BIL: ...THAT I GAVE MY LIFE
00:54:24.130 --> 00:54:25.040
TO THE MINISTRY...
00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:25.190
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:26.040
- BIL: ...THAT I KNEW GOD WAS
00:54:26.040 --> 00:54:26.260
CALLING ME TO MARRY THIS
00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:27.250
BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, 25 YEARS
00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:28.240
LATER, NOW.
00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:30.030
YOU KNOW.
00:54:30.030 --> 00:54:30.150
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS LIKE
00:54:30.150 --> 00:54:31.240
JUST ONE WORD OF TRUTH...
00:54:31.240 --> 00:54:33.150
[SNAPS FINGERS]
00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:34.000
- SHEILA: YEAH.
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.180
- BIL: ...CAN CHANGE
00:54:34.180 --> 00:54:35.050
EVERYTHING.
00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:35.270
- SHEILA: ABSOLUTELY.
00:54:35.270 --> 00:54:36.140
- BIL: AND SO, THAT'S WHAT I
00:54:36.140 --> 00:54:37.050
LOVE ABOUT GETTING GREAT
00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:38.030
CONTENT TO PEOPLE.
00:54:38.030 --> 00:54:39.090
AND YOU'RE GETTING THIS FROM
00:54:39.090 --> 00:54:40.110
SOMEONE WHO'S WRITTEN 25 BOOKS,
00:54:40.110 --> 00:54:41.030
BY THE WAY.
00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:42.170
IS THAT RIGHT?
00:54:42.170 --> 00:54:43.030
TWENTY-FIVE BOOKS?
00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:43.290
- SHEILA: ACTUALLY, IT'S ABOUT
00:54:43.290 --> 00:54:44.210
45, NOW, 'CAUSE I WRITE FOR
00:54:44.210 --> 00:54:45.210
KIDS, TOO.
00:54:45.210 --> 00:54:46.280
I LOVE WRITING FOR CHILDREN.
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:47.260
- BIL:: OH! ARE YOU KIDDING
00:54:47.260 --> 00:54:48.160
ME?
00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:48.260
- SHEILA: NO.
00:54:48.260 --> 00:54:49.090
- BIL: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:54:49.090 --> 00:54:49.270
THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
00:54:49.270 --> 00:54:50.130
WELL, LISTEN, THANK YOU FOR
00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:51.030
THIS RESOURCE.
00:54:51.030 --> 00:54:51.290
THANKS FOR MAKING THIS
00:54:51.290 --> 00:54:52.180
AVAILABLE.
00:54:52.180 --> 00:54:53.040
THANK YOU FOR THE HONESTY THAT
00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:54.070
YOU'RE SHARING YOUR TRUE HEART
00:54:54.070 --> 00:54:56.120
AND LIFE.
00:54:56.120 --> 00:54:57.140
AND THANK YOU THAT YOU DON'T
00:54:57.140 --> 00:54:59.230
SKIP ON TRUTH, THAT YOU REALLY
00:54:59.230 --> 00:55:00.270
TELL US: HERE'S WHAT REALLY
00:55:00.270 --> 00:55:02.060
HAPPENED.
00:55:02.100 --> 00:55:05.100
IT WAS UGLY.
00:55:05.100 --> 00:55:05.230
IT WASN'T FUN.
00:55:05.230 --> 00:55:06.080
BUT I GOT THROUGH IT.
00:55:06.080 --> 00:55:07.020
- SHEILA: AND JESUS WAS
00:55:07.020 --> 00:55:07.210
THERE...
00:55:07.210 --> 00:55:08.010
- BIL: THAT'S IT.
00:55:08.010 --> 00:55:08.280
- SHEILA: ...EVERY STEP OF THE
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:09.200
WAY.
00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:10.190
- BIL: HE REALLY IS OUR HOPE.
00:55:10.190 --> 00:55:11.100
[APPLAUSE]
00:55:11.100 --> 00:55:11.270
- SHEILA: YES, HE IS.
00:55:11.270 --> 00:55:13.110
- BIL: HE REALLY IS.
00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:13.280
[SHOW ENDING THEME PLAYS]
00:55:23.180 --> 00:55:25.250

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