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Bible teaching with an emphasis on Israel; prophecy and the Jewish roots of Christianity.

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  • male announcer: Welcometo "Our Jewish Roots" with
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  • insightful Bibleteaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
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  • David Hart: Thank you somuch for joining us today.
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  • I am David Hart.
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  • Kirsten Hart:I'm Kirsten Hart.
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  • Jeffrey Seif: AndI am Jeffrey Seif.
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  • And I think it's cool, chapter14 of Revelation, 144.000 Jewish
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  • believers withJesus on Mount Zion.
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  • Sounds like we're in Israel andwe got Jews believing in Jesus.
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  • That's what I'm talking about.
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  • Kirsten: Really it's notthe church that--the Christian
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  • church standing there?
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  • It's the Jewish people.
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  • Jeffrey: Yeah, a lot ofpeople taught,
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  • "Forget Israel. Forget Jews."
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  • But no one told thewriter of Revelation.
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  • Kirsten: It's good stuff.David: It is good stuff.
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  • Kirsten: You're walkingthrough three chapters today.
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  • I mean, that couldbe weeks of teaching.
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  • Jeffrey: Cecil B. DeMille said,
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  • "Give me any two pagesof the Bible, I can give
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  • you an epic motion picture,"especially with this stuff.
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  • Kirsten: Right.
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  • We see the infamous personcoming out,
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  • the anti-Christ today, right?
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  • And there have beenbooks written about him.
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  • Jeffrey: Now, girl, I'mtrying to keep it happy and
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  • there you go; but no, it's true.
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  • We got to take alook at the book.
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  • Not called the anti-Christhere, but called the beast.
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  • I mean, the imagerythere is profound and scary.
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  • We'll look at it.
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  • Kirsten: But wehave good--sorry.
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  • Have to say we have good stuffcoming too up and down the whole
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  • Book of Revelation.
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  • David: We startwith chapter 14 today.
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  • Take your Bible forDr. Seif's teaching.
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  • Jeffrey: It amazes me howyears removed from Jesus's death
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  • and the destruction of Jerusalemthat came years later; years
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  • removed and many miles removed.
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  • It's fascinating to me howbiblical authors still orient
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  • themselves to Jerusalem.
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  • I mention that because here inthe Book of Revelation we're
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  • looking at a documentpenned around 95 AD.
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  • John is out there in the sea,far away in proximity to Turkey,
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  • and he has avision in chapter 14.
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  • Behold, he sees the lambstanding on Mount Zion in
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  • Jerusalem surroundedby 144.000 Hebrews.
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  • I find that interesting 'causeat the time of the writing, a
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  • Jerusalem temple wasleveled, Mount Zion was nothing.
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  • It was a stationhouse forthe 10th Legion Fretensis.
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  • Actually, the symbol ofthe legion was a swine.
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  • At the time of the writing,Jews were in fact
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  • banished from the holy city.
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  • But John looks over the horizonand he sees something
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  • of a restoration.
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  • He mentions these144.000, and they have a mark.
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  • I like to refer to it--to themark as the mark of the best or
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  • the mark of the blessed asopposed to the mark
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  • of the beast.
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  • I say that because we're toldhere with him were 144.000,
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  • I mentioned that, and hisname and his Father's name
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  • was written on their foreheads.
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  • I think that's ratherinteresting people here have the
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  • mark of the beastwritten on the forehead.
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  • Actually, the whole idea ofhaving some kind of symbol
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  • attached to the person throughwhat we'd call a tattoo was more
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  • common in century onethan people realize.
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  • Legions would have, you know,their tattoo or their legion,
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  • the 12th legion on them.
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  • Technology had developed as away that people identified
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  • with things.
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  • Today, goodness, you go out onthe beach and you see people
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  • are all inked up.
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  • It was less common in antiquity,but people did identify.
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  • And we see that here theimagery plays off of that.
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  • These are people who make adeliberate decision to be
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  • identified with the lamb, evenamidst the turbulence
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  • of trying times.
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  • I say that these are faithfulwitnesses to the Lord,
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  • they're following him, butJerusalem has gone.
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  • It's a trying world, butthese people have resolve.
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  • So much good stuffin the literature.
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  • There's an exhortation forperseverance, and why is that?
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  • Because these people aregoing to have to go through
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  • some stormy moments.
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  • In fact--interestingly, aswe make our way through the
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  • chapter, we pivot from thisglorious image of the faithful
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  • walking with the Lord andthis encouragement to persevere.
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  • We pivot from that now and goto this image of a sickle that's
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  • going to be put into theearth for the harvest.
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  • Oh, you say, "Bearingfruit for the kingdom?"
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  • No, this is aharvest of sour grapes.
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  • The Bible talks about judgment.
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  • We go down to verse 15.
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  • "Put in your sickle and reap,for the hour to reap has come,
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  • because the harvest ofthe earth is fully ripe."
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  • As I mentioned, the chapterbegins with a prophetic word
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  • about the future; once againthe faithful there at Zion, but
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  • that's not the present fromthis author's perspective.
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  • The present from his perspectiveis things are not right
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  • in the world.
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  • The world is up ended, and heis now going to pivot and give
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  • voice to coming judgments.
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  • Oh, there's anencouraging word still.
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  • I'll get to it inthe next segment.
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  • But then we're bearing down ona world that is going
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  • to incur God's wrath.
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  • And if you've heard the oldexpression it gets darkest just
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  • before the dawn, well,we'll look at Revelation at its
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  • darkest, and we'll getto that in a moment.
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  • It's good to know, however, thatGod's sun shines and there's a
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  • little pun in all that, that hehas a way of shining his graces
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  • upon those who walk with him.
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  • We'll get to that and more as wecarry on, but let's leave it
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  • for the next segment.
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  • Jeffrey: It fascinates me howpeople that are full of faith
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  • telescope into the future.
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  • You know, a telescope looks waybeyond the moment and you reach
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  • out, out in--over the horizonas far as you can go and more.
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  • Telescoping pressesindividuals to do that.
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  • I say that because John ison record doing that here.
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  • Fifteenth chapter is a good one.
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  • They're not all good.
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  • In fact, it's going to sourmoving forward, but there's a
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  • moment here the author sees agreat and wonderful sign in
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  • chapter 15, verse 1.
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  • In verse 2 he seessomething, and what does he see?
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  • He sees those whoare overcomers.
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  • He sees they're standing andworshiping, and they're singing
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  • a new song, the Song of Moses.
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  • And it's interesting too becauseRevelation chapter 15 gives
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  • voice to something that tookplace in Exodus chapter 15.
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  • The numbers just so happened toline up, but what I want to do
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  • is unpack what they're singing'cause I want it to be your
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  • message as well.
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  • They sing in verse 3, "Greatand wonderful are your deeds.
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  • Adonai Elohei Tzva'ot."
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  • Great and wonderful are yourdeeds, oh Lord Almighty,
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  • oh Lord of hosts.
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  • Now, the truth of the matter is,not all is well on planet earth.
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  • Not everything is great, noteverything is wonderful, and
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  • some people wonder ifGod's even involved in it.
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  • But these people with faith evenamidst the turbulence of trying
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  • times, they don't lose theirperspective that God is at work
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  • in the world to bring about hisgood purposes, and that's a key
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  • for success in life andwalking with the Lord.
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  • You might find yourself in theshadow of death, but you still
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  • want to look tothe author of life.
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  • He says, "Just and true are yourways, O king of the nations."
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  • Well, first of all, it doesn'tlook like God is the king of the
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  • nations because the devil, theruler of this world, is just
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  • playing around in the sandbox.
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  • But this author, these peoplegive voice to the fact that
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  • faith sees that ultimately Godis the one who is in control.
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  • And though his ways aren'talways discernible, nevertheless
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  • they give voice to the fact thatstill they are just and true.
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  • He asks a question rhetorically.
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  • "Who shall not fear andglorify your name, O Lord?"
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  • Truth of the matter ismany don't fear or glorify.
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  • The world is in a state ofdebauchery and decay, but this
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  • is the assemblyof the righteous.
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  • They will reverencehim and glorify him.
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  • And he says, "For you alone areholy, and all the nation shall
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  • come and worship before you."
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  • It's fascinating 'cause we're ata point in time here where the
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  • emperor is galvanizing worship,that all should
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  • do obeisance to him.
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  • And by the way, these believersdon't burn incense to him.
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  • They don't give him--they don'tsay their pledge of allegiance
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  • to the emperor, and they standout and are persecuted by virtue
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  • of the fact thatthey don't do that.
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  • Well, here we're told that therighteous are the ones saying,
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  • "God, it's only to you."
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  • They not only have a propheticpicture that gives them
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  • encouragement for their owndestiny, but they give voice to
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  • the fact here: "All nationsshall come
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  • and worship before you."
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  • And at this sense, the rebels.
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  • In the empire, the emperor wasbeckoning that worship
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  • should be directed to him.
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  • They say no, that at some pointin time the earth is going to
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  • acknowledge he who really is theKing of kings and the Lord
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  • of lords, and this is not theemperor who sits in Rome.
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  • This author is going to go onwith prophetic vision to cast
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  • aspersions on that whole empiresystem with its wickedness.
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  • He envisions a point in timewhen all of that is displaced
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  • when God's kingdom comes, whenhis will is done on earth
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  • as it is in heaven.
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  • And that's theLord's Prayer, is it not?
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  • He says, "All nations willcome and worship you,
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  • for your righteous actshave been revealed."
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  • His righteous acts have beenrevealed to them,
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  • but it hasn't yet been fullyand finally manifest.
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  • All that said, he goes on to sayin verse 5, "After these things,
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  • I looked and the temple of thetent of witness
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  • in heaven was opened."
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  • As I opened in the program,the temple had long
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  • since been destroyed.
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  • There was just nothing there butthe 10th Legion Fretensis,
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  • which was an insult, anaffront to Biblical religion.
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  • But this author sees that allis not well but all is not lost
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  • because he knows that God has aplan and a purpose, and he sees
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  • in the heavenly court, in theheavenly temple it's opened up
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  • and something is coming; andwhat's coming is retribution,
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  • what's coming is a worldwhere sinners are going to find
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  • themselves in thehand of an angry God.
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  • That's what's coming.
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  • It's a tough story.
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  • We have to look at it.
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  • We have to go to it and we haveto go through it, and we'll come
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  • out the other end of it.
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  • I'm mentioning that becausechapter 16
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  • is a rollercoaster ride.
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  • There's turbulence as we flythrough the air making our way
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  • through the end ofRevelation, but worry not.
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  • There's a safe andglorious landing.
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  • More to come.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • In this made-for-TV series,Dr. Jeffrey Seif takes viewers
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  • ultimate uprooting when Christreturns, from the tragic story
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  • of paradise lost in Genesisto the triumph that account of
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  • Kirsten: In Dr. Seif'snext teaching segment, he'll be
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  • mentioning Armageddonand also Mount Megiddo.
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  • Here's the exciting thing.
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  • You have the opportunity togo there and see these actual
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  • places for yourself.
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  • Much of Revelation is in thefuture and talking about things
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  • we don't understand, but wecan understand
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  • those physical places.
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  • Our tour bus, we drive throughthe valley of Armageddon.
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  • It's fantastic andfascinating to see.
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  • We go everyspring and every fall.
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  • Sign up for tour, and we'llsee you on that tour bus.
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  • David: Right.
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  • Right now let's go back to Dr.Seif's teaching on Revelation.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Jeffrey: Theword is nefarious.
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  • It means inherently evil.
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  • I mention that becauseRevelation 16 gives a window
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  • into evil at work at the latteredge of time, an evil that
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  • mobilizes people forwar, carnage, destruction.
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  • Oh, to be sure, the 16th chapterof the Book of Revelation is not
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  • an easy read, much like Exodus.
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  • In days gone by, there'splagues, darkness; there's
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  • earthquakes, there's boils,there's miseries, there's
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  • upheavals, but within thatsomething new emerges
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  • that we don't see in Exodus.
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  • We see an anti-Christ, asmooth talker going before him;
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  • according to the literature aredemonic spirits that as I'd said
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  • a moment ago that mobilizepeople for a war--a great war,
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  • a long anticipated war.
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  • In the 16th chapter in verse 13,speaking of an unlucky number,
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  • the author says, "I sawcoming," he says--I'm skipping.
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  • "These unclean spirits."
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  • In verse 14, we're told theseare demonic spirits performing
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  • miraculous signs, who go out tothe kings of the whole world to
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  • gather them for battle on thegreat day of the Lord of hosts
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  • or the Lord Almighty.
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  • This author gives voice to thewhole earth being mobilized.
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  • This is not a regional spat.
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  • This is someone that has powerto bring them all in in some
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  • sense, and he brings them tobattle and he takes them to a
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  • place we're told in verse 16.
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  • He says, "The spirits gatheredthe kings to the place called in
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  • Hebrew Har-Megiddo.
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  • Har is mountain, Megiddo is theplace commonly referred to as
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  • Armageddon.
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  • Now, let me make a point herethat in our world today even
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  • people that aren't religiousTV watchers or churchgoers.
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  • In their own estimation, they'dconsider themselves
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  • atheist or agnostic.
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  • Even amongst those that have nobiblical literacy to speak of,
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  • when you say the wordArmageddon, in their mind it
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  • conjures up this climacticbattle
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  • at the ragged edge of history.
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  • A religious battle has somethingto do with the Middle East.
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  • There's some vague awarenessof that for people
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  • that are--aren't aware ofthings of the Lord at all.
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  • They get it from here.
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  • Armageddon isn't just a name.
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  • It's an actual place.
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  • It's not just a placein biblical literature.
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  • It's a place here, and I'mlooking at a map of Israel.
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  • Jerusalem here, what'scalled the West Bank here.
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  • Right here Megiddo exists.
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  • I've been there with touristsand film crews many times
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  • because people arefascinated by the place.
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  • It's a grand vista thatoverlooks a valley;
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  • a large valley, a verdantvalley, a fruitful valley.
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  • And everyone who is anyonein war knows that if you're
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  • bringing forces into this regionfor a battle, you have to park
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  • them for a season atMegiddo to freshen up.
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  • This is a major staging area,and it's been for centuries.
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  • That's why there's some 20, 21or so layers here at Armageddon
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  • of different kings that arefortified it because they've
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  • known that they've had to securethis place to control the valley
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  • 'cause this is theentrance way down to Jerusalem.
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  • Oh, there's a war coming.
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  • This, by the way, is one of thereasons why I think Israel is
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  • important forprophetic purposes.
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  • People say--and I get it.
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  • They say, "You know, Revelationis hard to understand."
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  • And indeed it is because we'reusing language that comes from
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  • century one; picture language,colorful language that doesn't
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  • necessarily speak to moderns.
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  • Moderns aren't aware of allthat, but moderns increasingly
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  • are aware of this, thatIsrael has been reborn recently.
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  • Moderns understand that theattempts of men not withstanding
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  • Am Yisrael Chai, the people ofIsrael live, and people will
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  • say, "Oh, that's miraculous."
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  • People can feel the tension.
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  • When they turn on the news,they see the Jews,
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  • among other things.
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  • Oh, there's something happening,and it's fascinating to me
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  • how it dovetails withthe prophetic Word.
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  • There's so much to say about it.
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  • That's why we're doing a lastday series on Revelation and
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  • we're trying to pull back theveil and take a look
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  • at the visions.
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  • More to come on"Our Jewish Roots."
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪ Someday the strangerwill cover his plan. ♪
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  • ♪ Someday the battlewill raise. ♪
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  • ♪ In that day I'll raise mymighty honor above all. ♪
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  • ♪ I'll curse himwho curse thee, ♪
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  • ♪ and bless himwho blesses thee. ♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪ Israel have I chosen. ♪
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  • ♪ Jacob have I loved. ♪
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  • ♪ I led them throughthe wilderness, ♪
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  • ♪ gave them my love. ♪
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  • ♪ Hear me here, oh Israel. ♪
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  • ♪ I am the Lord your God. ♪
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  • ♪ Israel have I chosen. ♪
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  • ♪ Jacob have I loved. ♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • David: That was a songfrom our founder, Zola Levitt.
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  • Today's programis about worship.
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  • Jeffrey: Well,it's in there, you know.
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  • To be sure, chapter 15is just this great piece.
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  • Kirsten: And aworship service.
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  • I love that it says thereare going to be new songs,
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  • new songs.
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  • You try to get new songs all thetime with your worship leading.
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  • David: Sometimes people don'tlike the new songs that we sing.
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  • They want the old.
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  • Jeffrey: Yeah, I thinkcontextually here the issue
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  • is that a lot of people,the narrative internally
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  • is despaired, decayed,disorientation,
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  • but then they have a newdisposition that gives birth
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  • to new speech and tocelebrate and put it to music,
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  • and that's definitely what'sat play in the literature.
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  • Kirsten: I love--theytie back to Song of Moses.
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  • This is not anythinganti-Jewish right there, is it?
  • 00:22:49.618 --> 00:22:54.389
  • We're going all the way backto Moses, a Song of Moses.
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  • It's just beautiful to me.I love it.
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  • Jeffrey: It's interesting.
  • 00:22:59.461 --> 00:23:00.762
  • Some people want todump the older testament.
  • 00:23:00.796 --> 00:23:02.097
  • "That's the Jew book.We have the new book."
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  • But this authornever got the message.
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  • He's harking back toMoshe Rabbenu,
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  • to Moses, to a famous song.
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  • You know, the Hebrews wentthrough a bad way in Egypt,
  • 00:23:09.738 --> 00:23:12.007
  • but it was deliverance.
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  • Similarly, here reminded ofis the fact
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  • that difficultiesnotwithstanding.
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  • There's deliverance that'sforthcoming, and here they're
  • 00:23:17.446 --> 00:23:19.648
  • celebrating this new deliverancewith a new song
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  • to the point made earlier.
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  • David: So Scripture istelling us about what it's going
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  • to be like somedaywhen we get to heaven.
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  • Any surprises?
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  • Jeffrey: About?
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  • David: About whatit's going to be like?
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  • Jeffrey: Well, yeah.
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  • The fact is that that eternallife, that redemption, that
  • 00:23:35.330 --> 00:23:36.765
  • grace, we don't have to waittill then in order to get it.
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  • On the other side of the grave,you know, what no eye has seen,
  • 00:23:39.401 --> 00:23:42.003
  • ear heard, or heart of manconceive of God is laid up for
  • 00:23:42.037 --> 00:23:44.639
  • those who love him, buteternal life starts now.
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  • This blessing is now.
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  • There's even deliverance nowfor people,
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  • and that's the good news.
  • 00:23:49.845 --> 00:23:51.513
  • Too much of church talks about,"Accept Jesus Christ and you can
  • 00:23:51.546 --> 00:23:53.915
  • have it all good on theother side of the grave."
  • 00:23:53.949 --> 00:23:55.984
  • Eternal life starts now, andYeshua comes into our life now
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  • and this deliverancefor the making now.
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  • Kirsten: Hearken back.Hearken back.
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  • I hardly ever usethat in real life.
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  • Hearken back toyour first segment.
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  • I love what you said.
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  • You talked about the writer ofRevelation and the writers in
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  • the book, they alwaysfocus back to Jerusalem.
  • 00:24:12.334 --> 00:24:16.071
  • It is the holy city, andeverything in this world,
  • 00:24:16.104 --> 00:24:18.940
  • beginning and endtimes, focuses on one place.
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  • Jeffrey: That gives me anopportunity to talk about this
  • 00:24:23.612 --> 00:24:25.714
  • backdrop that ourviewers paid for.
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  • In fact, the vision that yousee on television
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  • right now, you paid for it.
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  • The backdrop here is Jerusalem,and we'd like to take people
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  • back to what God was up to whenhe walked in Israel in the flesh
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  • in the person of Jesus, Yeshua.
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  • We want to take people back towhat God will be doing forward
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  • when we lookprophetically at Israel.
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  • Let me just saywhile speaking to that.
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  • Please help us intelling the story.
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  • Here they'reworshiping God in song.
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  • Worship means toascribe worth to something.
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  • It comes from a wordmeaning a ship of worth.
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  • And if you find worth, if youfind value in what we do, please
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  • This is not cheap.
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  • And I don't mean that we comewith high price tags or the
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  • production crew, but just thewhole enterprise of purchasing
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  • airtime and making television.
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  • It gets into the homes of tensof thousands of people, hundreds
  • 00:25:29.578 --> 00:25:33.281
  • of thousands of people thatdon't make their way to church,
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  • and we want to give them agood view of the good news.
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