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ZOE International | Episode 10

One on One with Kirk Cameron

November 14, 2019

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One on One with Kirk Cameron

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ZOE International | Episode 10

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it sounds so unbelievable to-to even think
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that something like that could be true.
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DAVE: They just rescued two kids.
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This lead law enforcement official came to ZOE.
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He's like, "You got to take 'em.
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"They're gonna need a padded room, basically,
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for 24 hours, they've been so drugged up."
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They're like, "We can't do it. We-we don't have enough staff
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to even pull this off." He goes, "Listen..."
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He goes, "Let's just see what your God can do."
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I'm Kirk Cameron, and I get to meet
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some pretty amazing people.
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These are people who totally inspire me
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with their hearts full of faith,
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character and courage.
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They push their limits, they think outside the box
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and bravely use their gifts and talents
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to bless others.
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And today, we get to spend some time...
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In today's fast-paced culture,
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we can get so wrapped up in our own personal lives
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that sometimes it's easy to miss
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major problems happening in the world.
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And not just in the world, but also in our own community.
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Sometimes in our own backyard.
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That's why I invited over some of my friends
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who have literally dedicated their lives to addressing
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one of the most serious problems in the world today,
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human trafficking.
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David Cox, Ester Yu and Dr. Jason Plunkett.
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They work with ZOE International, a nonprofit
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who works with law enforcement
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to rescue young people out of human trafficking
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and bring them hope, healing and restoration.
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Hey, guys. Welcome.
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-Thank you. -Thank... thanks so much.
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-Great to see you. Hey, Dave. -Good to see you.
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-How you doing? Hi. -Hey, Jason.
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Great to see you guys. I am so inspired
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by the work that you do.
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And I think a lot of people would just like to know, um,
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how you got involved in this particular kind of work.
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Jason, what-what's a little of your background,
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and how did you get involved with ZOE's work?
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I've actually been a therapist working
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with juvenile sex offenders and with gang members.
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And if you put those two risk... risk factors together,
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that's actually human trafficking.
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I went to a ZOE walk two years ago, and after,
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I was... I was so inspired,
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specifically by hearing our founder Carol speak,
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that I literally just asked the Lord, how can I be a part?
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Months later, uh, I had the opportunity to, uh, meet Carol,
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and I then became one of the United States directors.
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And ZOE International is-is obviously international
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all over the world.
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David, how did you get involved in this work
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of-of, uh, human trafficking?
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Yeah-- really unexpectedly.
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Uh, so I... you know, I was a pastor for many years--
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I have background in law enforcement and also ministry--
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and I was a pastor going out to vet ZOE as an organization.
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I'd just heard about it and was checking it out for a church,
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and as I went out there,
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I was really overcome and surprised by...
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the level of work that I saw.
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It was much more expansive, powerful.
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And I started by bringing some
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law enforcement teams over to Thailand,
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uh, at the request of Royal Thai Police,
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to do training, so I've got law enforcement connections here.
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So they actually asked ZOE if they could provide
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some tactical training
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from U.S. to supplement the-the work that they're doing
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and train their officers, so I brought a team over,
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began working with them.
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There's a call that God gives to each of us,
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and I ended up getting called in to ZOE.
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But it was so unexpected.
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-I didn't know that going over there. -Hmm.
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And-and, Ester, h-how did you come together
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with these guys and start working with ZOE?
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Uh, my husband is a pastor at a church,
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and we'd always wanted to do, um,
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work that involved social justice and gospel work.
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We went on a scout trip
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to ZOE Thailand, heard about
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human trafficking there and the work that they were doing.
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So our family went out there for five years as missionaries
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and have returned for the last two years here
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-in L.A. -What does ZOE mean, by the way?
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That's-that's got to have a special meaning to it.
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You know, it's-it's a Greek word, so when Jesus said,
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"I've come to give life, and life abundant,"
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he's come to give zoe.
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So it represents the life of God that's transformative,
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and so that's the definition of ZOE.
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So tell us what ZOE actually does to help rescue these kids.
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NARRATOR: We've been able to reach thousands of people
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with the gospel both here in Thailand and in Japan.
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Through our Mercy Network ministry, we've been able
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to partner with local pastors all around Thailand,
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empowering them to reach their community.
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NARRATOR 2: Our grand opening for our new child protection center
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this past year was amazing.
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I would like to offer my heartfelt congratulations
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and appreciation to ZOE's staff,
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because the work you do is incredibly important.
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NARRATOR 2: We have been getting more and more requests
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from the Thai government to take more children
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into our Child Rescue Center.
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NARRATOR 3: ZOE Mexico has been strategizing
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with local government
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and national anti-trafficking leaders,
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and we are in the process of establishing
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our ZOE offices located in the city center of Oaxaca.
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NARRATOR 4: ZOE Los Angeles was able to help Los Angeles County
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provide trauma-informed activities
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and resources throughout the year
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to over 100 youth survivors.
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NARRATOR 5: ZOE is the first nonprofit in Northern Thailand
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to be officially licensed as a child protection center
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for human trafficking.
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We have a three-prong approach.
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It's prevention, rescue and restoration.
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-Hmm. -So, in prevention, we do
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a prevention campaign to bring awareness
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about human trafficking.
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We go to remote parts of, um, villages
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and communities where they may never have heard
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of human trafficking.
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Oftentimes, um,
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families are approached by even sometimes someone they know
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and, um, deceived-- you know, offered a job
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or schooling for their child, and instead, this, um,
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child is put into exploitation, and so we're raising awareness.
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In schools, we do campaigns in schools.
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So we do prevention as well as rescue.
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Going in and working with law enforcement,
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social welfare, other nonprofits,
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and helping to identify and investigate any cases
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that are existing with child trafficking,
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and then going and rescuing these children
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from those situations.
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And then restoration.
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Oftentimes, these children
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are then placed in Thailand
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at our children's home there, and...
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where they're able to receive
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care, love and restoration.
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KIRK: When you just say the-the phrase,
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"human trafficking," it-it just...
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it sounds so unbelievable to-to even think
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that something like that could be true, that human beings
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are being bought and sold and trafficked
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and used for horrific purposes.
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Would you just-just clarify for everybody who's listening,
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what exactly is human trafficking?
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I mean, it's the buying and selling o-of children.
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Similar to drug trafficking,
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the illegal sales of drugs or weapons.
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I mean, how-how does this even exist in the year 2019?
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What-what... what do you attribute that kind of evil to?
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It's the business model. It's the business model concept
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of it, and it dehumanizes a person.
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So what it does, it looks at a human being much as an object
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and not a human anymore.
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Much like Dave said, the number one return on investment
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is stealing.
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So what happens is that these individuals steal these people.
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They steal individuals. They steal their identity.
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Whether they be children or adults.
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They utilize force, fraud or coercion to be able to do so.
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There is traffickers that are making up to
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$1.000 a day off of just one person.
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And they have multiple people.
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So, what they've identified is that they're being able
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to profit more off of human beings
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than objects.
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So we-we've identified this as, uh, abuse for profit.
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And I... and I understand that sometimes, when the children
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are, um, brought into the custody of law enforcement,
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that they're actually being prosecuted as prostitutes
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and put in jail sometimes, rather than receiving the help
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and the rescue that they need.
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That is exactly what was happening.
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The-the poor child was getting abused
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by the person trafficking.
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They were getting abused by the judicial system
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of identifying them as a prostitute.
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They were being abused by, sometimes, the law enforcement,
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identifying them, um, by some derogatory name
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that-that... in regards to prostitution as well.
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Right now, there's a huge campaign
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that we've been standing behind our L.A. supervisors,
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that there is no such thing as a child prostitute.
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A child cannot give consent over their body,
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much less give consent over their abuse.
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-Mm. That's a good point. -So we've identified that
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-it's child abuse for profit. -So, in California,
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a law was passed where children are no longer arrested
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for being trafficked, really, and this whole campaign of
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"no such thing as a child prostitute," so now,
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when a child is recovered off the streets,
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after having been exploited,
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they are provided victim services.
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Rather than being prosecuted for prostitution.
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Right. It's a child welfare issue at this point.
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LAPD, th-their human trafficking division,
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which launched three years ago,
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they have over 1.700 arrests, but when they...
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when you're taking custody of a child, it's a...
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it's a child welfare issue now.
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They've been victimized, and they're trying
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-to get those kids help. -JASON: So it's an empathic approach,
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in regards to identifying the person
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as not "What did you do?" but "What happened to you?"
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about this oasis in Thailand
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where these children are protected and they're nourished
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and they're restored, and so much healing comes to them.
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The main concept behind it is really just love.
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It's God's love and being able to just shower them
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with God's love.
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Our approach is a lot-- it's a family...
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it's a family-oriented approach, but still utilizing
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concepts in regard to therapy
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-and biblical counseling. -ESTER: Oftentimes, when they
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first arrive, um, they've sometimes
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been told by law enforcement
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that they would only be with us for a couple days.
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They've often been told different stories,
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and they don't know who to believe,
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and they're trying to run away.
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So, oftentimes, when they're with us in our safe house,
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um, we are-are there next to them 24 hours,
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um, just providing care, trying to assure them
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that we're-we're safe people.
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-KIRK: Yeah. -And that we love and care for them.
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And providing them with whatever they need immediately
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in terms of any medical needs or clothing or food.
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Oftentimes, their days and nights are flipped.
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A lot of the young girls, they're up all night,
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and they sleep through the day,
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and so there's a time of adjustment.
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-Yeah. -Our social workers will stay up with them
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through the night, making sure that they're okay,
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and just being there with them if they need
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to talk through anything, helping them to
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explain the process of what's gonna happen.
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Once they're ready to move from the safe house
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into the children's home, they're placed in family units,
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where they have caregivers, um, that really want to create
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-an atmosphere of family... -KIRK: Right.
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...with-with other children that are there.
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They are provided with
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extracurricular activities, schooling,
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uh, vocational training if needed,
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um, counseling, as well as, um, visits with their family
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if it's safe for them
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to visit their family.
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With the kind of abuse that they have experienced--
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and we're talking about things that most of us,
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uh, have never even heard of or-or would even conceive
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that these things could be real for these children--
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is it possible to rehabilitate them?
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Is it possible for them really to have a restoration
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and-and be healthy kids again?
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Through counseling and, um,
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sharing their stories, we provide a safe setting
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in terms of, like, art therapy,
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and our key is really building relationships.
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And I think that's really the healing that happens. It's...
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We've realized through the trauma that they've experienced,
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um, healing can happen through relationships and love.
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And that's really some of the... the trouble that's there
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is children who don't feel capable of receiving the love
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that's offered to them.
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Um, you can provide the best facilities,
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have the best staff, but if a child doesn't feel safe,
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and if they don't feel like they can trust you,
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they won't receive that.
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We've seen children who are violent and,
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um, who are angry, who had nightmares,
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and really received healing through God.
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And-and the love that they've received at the care at ZOE.
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And, Dave, I know that-that you say that there's a powerful
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spiritual component to their healing.
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-Oh, yeah. -Could you talk a little bit more about that?
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Absolutely. You know, it's holistic.
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You know, we're whole people.
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There's emotional, there's physical,
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but there's a spiritual aspect to it.
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One of the thing... I remember being in a training, actually,
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in L.A., and I heard one of the... somebody said,
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"Well, the best we can do is teach them coping mechanisms."
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But Jesus goes well beyond a coping mechanism.
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He does life transformation. That's His specialty.
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That's God's specialty. That's what He does.
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And we believe it, and we see it, so...
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part of it is, we will care for the whole person.
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We'll give 'em the best of the best.
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We'll give them the best counseling,
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psychological help and assessment,
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and we will equip 'em physically, vocationally,
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but at the end of the day,
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there's also a spiritual component.
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We'll never force it on a child, but we will
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give them an opportunity to know God and to experience God,
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and especially in Thailand where
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these kids are often living with us for many, many years.
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And they're put in a family environment.
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And it takes love to transform a life--
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the love of God and the love of the people of God.
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And it is one of the things that has turned heads left and right.
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In fact, there was an investigation going in Thailand
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that went for six years.
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They just rescued two kids.
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This lead law enforcement official came to ZOE,
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and this was before we had our licensed rescue center open.
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He's like, "You got to take 'em.
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"They're gonna need a padded room, basically, for 24 hours,
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they've been so drugged up."
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And ZOE was not fully equipped.
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They're like, "We can't do it.
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We-we don't have enough staff to even pull this off."
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And they were going back and forth, and this guy just said...
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he goes, "Listen."
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He goes, "Let's just see what your God can do.
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"I've watched this over the years,
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"and I've never seen your God not do
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something radical in the life of a child."
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And so, with that, they-they looked.
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It's like, "Wow." They're...
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It's like he just... he laid it down.
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-Yeah. -He-he's not even a believer,
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but he has seen the evidence
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of what God has done in the life of a kid,
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and I think that's the evidence that you see.
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When God can get a hold of a life, no one's too far gone
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to experience life transformation,
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and that's what Jesus does.
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That's why He's a specialist.
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You're also having some major success in...
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right here in the Los Angeles area, too.
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-Can you talk about maybe some of the stories? -JASON: Yeah.
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Some of the individuals that have received help
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through ZOE here in L.A.?
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Well, just yesterday, I was at a group home,
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working with some youth identified as CSEC.
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"CSEC" is the term, "commercial sexual exploitation
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of children." Same thing as trafficking,
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but it's a term that we use in Los Angeles.
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And we're playing this game where you blindfold someone,
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and there's a-a partner that walks you
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from-from one space to the other.
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That takes a lot of vulnerability,
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and it takes a lot of trust, and the young girl who...
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At first, she didn't want to do it.
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So our approach is being able
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to meet a child exactly where he or she is at
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and to be able to have an empathic approach
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and to be able to use, like,
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something we call "motivational interviewing."
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And what that is, is really just use...
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utilizing their words.
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She saw other youth doing it all at the same time
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to the point where she then did it.
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She was able to have her peer walk with her,
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blindfolded from one side of the room
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to the other side of the room, and build trust immediately.
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Now, this is a child that has been abused.
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This is a child that has been, um...
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that has been trafficked through various situations,
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but she was able to trust us just because we were able
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to meet her exactly where she was at.
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In California and nationwide,
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there's a shortage of placements for youth
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who have been trafficked.
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There aren't safe places, as well as places
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that know how to work with these youth,
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and so that's what ZOE's trying to do here in Los Angeles.
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We've purchased 50 acres of land in north L.A. County.
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And we're working closely with the county
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to insure that this is a place that is suitable
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for the kids that come through the child welfare system...
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-KIRK: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -...as well as through probations.
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And, um, we're currently in the process
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of hoping to build this year, and...
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we are hearing from the county
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that they need placement for-for these youth.
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And so, currently, while we're waiting
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for our home to be built, we go to group homes
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and help the county, um, provide activities for these youth.
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-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -And we hear, time and time again,
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that the activities that we're bringing and the ways
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that we're connecting with the youth--
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it's having girls who normally don't participate in groups...
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-Mm-hmm. -...come out and-and willing,
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and seeing and discovering things about themselves.
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We have a strengths-based approach, so if you...
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if you're looking for bad things, you'll find them.
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But we're really looking to find the strengths
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and help the youth discover the strengths within them
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so that they can really cultivate that
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and-and grow and flourish and find the-the strength
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to come out of... of that life.
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And oftentimes, with this population,
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the victims don't identify themselves as being victims.
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Um, they're often protecting their traffickers.
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They don't recognize that they've even been victimized...
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-Mm-hmm. -...because they've been in a romantic relationship
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with their traffickers.
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And so, it's really in that process we've had
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in the times that we've met with these youth in these activities.
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In the beginning, they-they'll share in ways that...
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that they are not a... have been involved in trafficking.
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And through our activities
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and the ways that we engage with them,
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eventually, they will share with us
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that they are actually victims of trafficking.
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-Mm. -And that's the first step,
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because here in L.A.,
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you have to first identify yourself as a victim,
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and then say that you want services.
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And so, in order for them to receive services,
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workers need to be skilled
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and know how to help the youth identify themselves.
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Right. You've got to build that trust
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and give them that safe place where they can open up,
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and then they can receive help.
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Now, I also understand that parents
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who are willing to give foster care to these children...
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-JASON: Yes. -...are a key component
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to the restoration of these kids,
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-and that we need more and more of these parents. -Mm-hmm.
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I remember my mom, uh, foster-cared for several kids
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when we were little, and that was so important.
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Those kids would come back and say, you know, those years
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spent with-with my mom and with my dad were so crucial.
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Are there a lack of foster parents right now?
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So there... there are foster parents.
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So, what we're trying to do is that we try and train them
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so they can be trauma informed.
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So there's lots of... there's lots of families who want
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to take in kids, but sometimes it's very hard for them.
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They don't know how to react to the behavior of the child.
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So we do different training,
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trauma-informed training to... so that they can
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know various copings, coping mechanisms,
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and, um, learning how to show empathy and love
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in certain... in certain situations.
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The youths sometimes don't come in with open arms
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saying, "I want the help." Sometimes they're identifying,
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saying, "I don't want to be here."
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Or, "What do you want to do to me?"
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Some of the youth... youth have been
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-abused in the welfare system. -Hmm.
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So our goal is to be able to equip
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and give the tools that the...
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that these various families need.
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So we go into the various churches,
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and sometimes we recruit various families.
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Then we can train them so they'll be
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fully equipped to be able to foster these youths.
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And you're also doing work in... in schools.
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Is that high schools, elementary schools,
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and is that to... to bring awareness to this whole subject?
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We have a program called
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My Generation, My Fight, and we go into schools
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and help young people understand
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this problem of human trafficking.
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Sometimes, if they want to start
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an awareness club on their campuses,
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then several of the high schools
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and colleges have started clubs to raise awareness
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about human trafficking. But we will go... Teachers have
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invited us to come to their classrooms,
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sometimes, um, transforming an English lesson
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on a book about abuse or trauma.
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And then we'll come in and also share about human trafficking.
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-It's vital for us to go into... -Hmm.
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...this middle school age and the high school age
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when traffickers are... are going
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and recruiting young people.
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So that they're aware of the problem
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and they can protect themselves.
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The work of rescue is very intensive.
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It's-it's hard to do that.
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16 years ago, there'd be menus on the street corner
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of kids, in Thailand, for example.
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Now it's much more subversive.
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Everywhere you're working, it's harder to find them.
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So instead of, you know, putting so much effort
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in rescue, which we will, we'll keep working,
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uh, with all the good guys to do that,
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but if we can prevent it,
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then we're saving hundreds and thousands of kids.
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That's why we do it in every nation we work in.
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Japan's got it in schools.
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Australia's working on that.
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Mexico's got a junior high to high school curriculum
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that's getting released down there that we're working in.
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The prevention, really, is the key.
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Someone said, "Is it better to build a hospital
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"at the... at the bottom of a canyon
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or to b-build a bridge over the canyon?"
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Well, if you can build a bridge,
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you're gonna have a lot less victims.
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And our hope through prevention
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is that we'd save people before they get caught.
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What we stand on is that
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every generation has stopped something.
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In the transatlantic slavery, there was probably
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slaves who said, "This will never end."
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But it was in that generation of people who said,
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"It's gonna end in my time. It's gonna end."
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So we believe the same thing with human trafficking:
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that it's gonna end in our time.
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And we just have to be a generation of people
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and teach in pre... in prevention and awareness
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to the youth so that they can stand up and say,
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"This is my... this is my fight.
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It's my generation. We're gonna end it in my time."
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Back in the day, the traffickers would go
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where children are, and that was at the malls,
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-at the bus stops and parks, 7-Elevens. -Mm-hmm.
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Nowadays, where the children are is the Internet.
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-And so that is a huge place... -KIRK: Mm-hmm.
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...where it's difficult for even
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law enforcement to see what's going on.
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It's hidden, similar to what you shared
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in your movie, Connect, and raising awareness
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-about Internet safety. -Mm-hmm.
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MAN: He had this whole digital life
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that I'd had no idea even existed.
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KIRK: I decided I needed to get to the bottom
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of understanding how technology and my kids were interacting.
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It's critical for young people
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to understand how to use the Internet safely
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and to understand how exploiters will recruit them
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and trick them and deceive them
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into coming out of the safety of their homes
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and starting relationships that are not safe.
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But the Internet is a...
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is a huge part of the problem right now.
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What do you think is the role of the church in this?
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People can... can be listening to us and saying,
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"Th-that's horrible, you know, a-and we're gonna...
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we're gonna pray that this ends."
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But what can they do, practically, to get involved?
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Sharing awareness.
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Sharing awareness is the-the answer to prevention.
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Thinking outside of just where we're at.
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Thinking, also, thinking outside of the fact
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that this can't happen to us.
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We want people to stand up against this and to share this.
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We have this one concept that we're-we're doing right now.
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It's called Party with a Purpose.
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What happens is that someone will bring all their friends
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and say, "You know what, this is something I stand against.
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"Here, I'm gonna bring Dave. I'm gonna bring Ester.
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"I'm gonna bring Jason to speak against this
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and teach you what human trafficking is."
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So that the perspective changes.
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I would say ten... seven to...
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seven to ten years ago, even as a therapist,
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I didn't look at... look at trafficking to what it was.
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I just didn't know.
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I didn't have that awareness.
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So I-I can only imagine other people just...
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they don't know, so the answer to be able to do that,
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come together-- we believe that the church is the answer.
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Even just outside of the awareness piece,
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which we push that so heavily, the awareness piece,
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the idea that for the church...
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the church is the most powerful force on the planet.
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It just is. It's-it's powerful.
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And everyone who gets involved in this,
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there's a brokenness there somewhere.
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What if they could be caught before they even got into it?
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How do they get help? How do they get rehabilitated?
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How do you help kids who are vulnerable
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because they've lost connection with their family?
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Often, kids who are most vulnerable
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are the ones disconnected,
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so as a church, what's a church offer?
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It offers help to families.
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It shows what a mom and a dad and a home could look like.
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It offers community for people without community.
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To mobilize our church to be active
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and moving in the community, to aid our families,
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partner with their community,
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they offer something that nobody else can offer.
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They offer the-the power and the love of God
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and the power of that large of a community.
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It can really meet needs,
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personal needs that everybody involved has.
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Now, for someone who might be watching this conversation
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Now, for someone who might be watching this conversation,
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and they may be in a situation where their boyfriend
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is turning out to be their drug dealer,
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and they realize that they're... they're in a place
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that they never thought that they would be,
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they've gone down a road that is so dark,
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and they don't see light at the end of the tunnel,
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but they're thinking, "Maybe ZOE could help,"
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uh, what could they do?
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Who could they call?
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There's a hotline.
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It's 888-373-7888.
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So they can call 888-373-7888.
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Or they can text that number, "Be Free."
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-KIRK: 888-373-7888. -JASON: Yes.
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KIRK: Or text the words "Be Free"
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-to that same number. -JASON: Yes.
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If someone is inspired by what they're hearing
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and wants to get involved with ZOE International,
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where do they go? H-How do they plug in?
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Well, an easy thing they could do: goZOE.org.
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G-O-Z-O-E-dot-org, that's our website.
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There's links there.
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ESTER: We're on Instagram.
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ZOE, underscore, and then the country:
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in Mexico, in Australia, in Japan.
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And so we update and we educate the public as well
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about, um, the different work that we're doing,
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as well as teaching
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about human trafficking on our social media.
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We also have a YouTube channel.
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Very informative, uh, clips in regards to, uh,
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knowing the signs of human trafficking,
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uh, what you can do.
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So, the best things for people to do
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is to share the social media content.
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Is there... are there other ways for them to get involved?
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What... How can they be a part of what ZOE's doing?
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Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of opportunities,
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especially in Los Angeles-- we're beginning to expand,
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and we're beginning to identify more areas for involvement.
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We'll know more over this next year
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how rapid that expansion's happening,
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but we're always looking for partners.
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If they have interest in that, they can e-mail
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info@goZOE.org.
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One of our team will follow up with them
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and can find out their specific interest
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and follow up directly.
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Wow. You guys are doing such great things.
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And you're working full-time with ZOE International.
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I-I hope that people seize the opportunity that they have,
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like you have, to think of the-the bigger picture
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and to be a part of something that God's doing in the world
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to bring hope and healing and justice.
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And I think you've inspired a lot of people today.
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-Thanks very much. -Thank you.
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Thanks for highlighting it.
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