Landon MacDonald | Episode 9
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Landon MacDonald | Episode 9
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- -Oh, my goodness! -Stop it.
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- -Is that alive? -Your knowledge of
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- small pickle names is astounding to me.
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- -No hands. No biting. -Okay.
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- Go.
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- (muffled yelling)
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- Okay, that's good, Landon,
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- but you're about to lose. Aah!
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- (Kirk gasping)
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- I'm Kirk Cameron, and I get to meet
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- some pretty amazing people.
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- These are people who totally inspire me
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- with their hearts full of faith,
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- character and courage.
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- They push their limits, they think outside the box
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- and bravely use their gifts and talents
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- to bless others.
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- And today, we get to spend some time...
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- Did you know half of American pastors--
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- ministers in churches--
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- are 55 years old or older?
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- Now, with age usually comes wisdom.
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- That's actually what I have in my hair.
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- This isn't really gray hair. These are wisdom streaks.
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- Um, which is great for ministers.
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- We want them to have wisdom.
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- Well, where does that leave the young guys,
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- the 25-, 30-year-old ministers in the church?
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- Do they have the wisdom it takes to lead the next generation?
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- Well, today, I invited
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- my friend Landon MacDonald over.
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- He's one of these guys.
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- He has so much wisdom.
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- He doesn't have a lot of gray hair,
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- but he's got an awesome beard.
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- He's got a passion for God's Word and the next generation.
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- So much so that he has created a video walk-through
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- of the entire Bible on YouTube
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- so that he can reach young people outside the four walls
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- of the church building.
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- I invited him to come over to talk about his passion
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- for God's Word for the next generation,
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- to make some breakfast, and then challenge him
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- to a one-on-one competition.
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- -Landon! Come here. -Come on. I like it.
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- -How's it going? -Oh, my gosh.
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- It's going good. How are you doing?
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- I'm doing great. Good to see you.
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- -Hey, I like the beard. -Thank you.
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- That was a very kind introduction.
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- -Thank you so much. I like that. -You're... you're welcome.
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- I thought we could just, like, make breakfast.
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- -Let's do it. Okay. -All right, what... what are you, uh...
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- -LANDON: I am useless here. -Are you the cook,
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- -or is your wife the cook? -Oh, gosh, she wouldn't even
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- let me near any of this stuff, so this will be fun.
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- -Do you know what you're doing? -Okay, here. Why don't you go with the bacon.
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- -I like it. -Why don't you just start...
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- -Here, here you go. -Great. Okay.
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- You-you didn't...
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- You're not vegetarian or anything, are you?
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- Absolutely not, no.
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- No. No, you're from Chicago, and...
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- Steak is a prerequisite in Chicago.
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- -Okay. -Oh, perfect.
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- -There we go. Okay, good. -I like that.
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- I like that.
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- All right, let's get some of these on there.
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- LANDON: These look good.
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- -These are, like... -I'm just gonna put a little...
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- This is, like, some real-deal, like, Lord of the Rings,
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- Hobbit- looking sausage right there.
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- (laughs): Yeah.
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- That's good.
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- -All right. -Perfect.
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- LANDON: I like this.
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- This is fun. Outside?
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- -Isn't this great? -And you're, like...
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- you're, like, cold right now,
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- 'cause you're the... you are the most California person I know.
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- Yeah. Well, see, you have... you have the beard,
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- which is probably necessary in Chicago.
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- -Yes. -With the cold in the winters, it's brutal.
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- Yeah, this is a utilitarian beard.
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- It's for actual warmth.
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- My dad took me ice fishing when I was a kid.
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- I dropped... I picked up his coat, and I...
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- the keys fell out of it into the ice fishing hole.
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- -No. -Yeah.
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- We called the guide, and the guide came
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- and caught the keys,
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- and it was the only thing we caught all day.
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- -Okay, this is looking so good. -Hey. Wait, wait.
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- -I think our bacon is... is just about there. -Okay.
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- -Oh, man. -Yeah, looks done.
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- Should we roll these, or are these good?
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- -KIRK: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. -There we go.
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- Oh. (chuckles)
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- -Good. All right. -You ready for these?
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- -That's it. Yeah. -Boom.
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- -Boom. All right, let's turn these off. -Okay.
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- -Okay. Like it. -All right.
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- -Here, you go for the meat. -Yes.
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- We can just go right over there.
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- -And I got the salt and pepper. -Oh, my gosh.
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- KIRK: Okay. What do you think of this, huh?
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- This is an Instagram-ready table.
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- -You like that? I... -Yeah.
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- -I don't have my phone with me. -Get the right filter.
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- This is wonderful. Okay, we got to eat. I'm so hungry.
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- -You want some coffee? -Absolutely.
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- Would your generation have thought that this style
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- of coffee is just absolutely crazy?
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- (chuckles): Uh...
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- The stereotype is that your generation, like,
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- drank coffee from gas stations,
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- and it was terrible and they didn't care.
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- -Yeah. -And my generation buys $11 cups of coffee.
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- -Yeah. -They're, like, this big, and drinks it with two hands
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- -while sipping and thinking. -Exactly.
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- -Is that...? -Yeah.
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- Should I, like, reveal to you
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- that I'm a Growing Pains superfan,
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- or is, like, the time for you to...
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- is that kind of past?
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- Do you get sick of talking about stuff like that?
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- -I love talking about Growing Pains. -Yeah.
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- You know what, it's one of those things in your life
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- that made the difference.
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- -Sure. -I wouldn't know Chelsea
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- -if it weren't for Growing Pains. -Wow.
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- I wouldn't be doing this show or anything else.
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- -Yeah. -Uh, which means, if I didn't know Chelsea,
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- I wouldn't have my family, my kids, everything.
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- -Um... -Wow.
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- So Growing Pains was one of those pivotal moments,
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- and-and I love it.
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- So, Landon, you're-you're...
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- you're one of mine and Chelsea's and our kids'
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- favorite people in the whole world.
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- You are one of the most fun human beings on Earth,
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- and we always knew that you would do some...
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- you would do something amazing with your life.
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- You'd be on some kind of wild, crazy adventure.
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- -(chuckles) -And you love kids.
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- So, you're kind of focusing in specifically
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- -on student ministry? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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- -Yep. -Now, what... what made you
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- decide to become a pastor?
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- I mean, you could have done all kinds of crazy things.
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- You're fun, you're-you're smart, you...
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- -Thank you. -Why-why a pastor?
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- Man, when God just impacts your life,
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- and when he grips your heart,
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- and you want that to happen to other people,
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- and you want to see that happen, you want to be a part
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- of that happening in whatever way you can.
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- -What happened when you were a teenager? -Oh, my gosh.
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- I kind of gave my heart to Christ in layers.
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- God kept pursuing me.
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- I was... stuck in sin,
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- I was stuck in selfishness, I was stuck in ignorance,
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- and every time, God would grab my heart,
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- and I would give him another layer of my heart.
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- You grow up in church, it's really easy to think
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- that following Jesus is a list of things to do.
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- Following Jesus isn't a list of things to do.
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- -It's-it's a list of... -What is it?
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- It's a list of people to follow, and it's just one...
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- one thing long, and if you're... if you're following Jesus,
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- what you find is that you...
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- you become all of these other things anyway,
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- -Mm. -and-and the list just falls away,
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- and-and it's a really wonderful thing.
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- What was it about Jesus that made you say,
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- -"I want to follow Jesus personally"? -Yeah.
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- It's recognizing and realizing that you messed up,
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- you tripped up, you slipped up, you failed, and...
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- recognizing what that means
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- between you and God, and then all of a sudden
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- you realize that God made a way for you to be right.
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- And when-when that realization happens,
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- -that's the moment. -Mm.
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- And that is the moment that I, uh, am working
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- for as many people to have as possible,
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- specifically teenagers.
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- -That is so great. -Yeah.
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- I remember you talking about being in a band
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- -and wanting to be a musician. -Yeah.
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- Whatev... whatever happened with that?
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- Yeah, I was in band. Uh... (laughs)
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- It was a seven-piece kind of Brit pop, rock thing.
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- It was, uh... There was... Gosh, I played, uh,
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- auxiliary percussion and drums. I was doing that.
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- I did that my whole teenage years.
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- I was in bands and playing that, and I got to this point
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- where my band actually was flown out here to L.A.,
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- and all of a sudden, um, I had to make this choice
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- whether I was going to be a pastor
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- or I was going to pursue this thing.
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- And it was really difficult in the moment,
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- but it was a really wonderful experience as I look back on it
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- because that was when God really cemented on my heart,
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- "This is... this is what you should be doing."
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- I think Christians overemphasize a call.
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- Uh, I wasn't called into ministry.
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- It's just what I wanted to do.
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- And all of a sudden, I realized, like, the freedom in Christ.
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- You can do whatever you want. You can be in a band,
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- you can be a pastor, but what is gonna bring
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- the most glory to God?
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- -And that choice... -Mm.
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- ...and-and seeing the world through that lens
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- is such a freeing experience.
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- I'm not burdened by trying
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- to appease God with my right choices.
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- I'm not burdened by trying to appease my parents
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- with right choices. What's gonna make
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- the most people look at God and think, "Yeah"?
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- That's the lane you take at every decision.
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- And all of a sudden, you're so free to just live your life...
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- -Hmm. -...and live your life with the things
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- that you've been given and the giftings you've been given,
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- and just try to make the most people
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- look up at God and be like, "Yeah, this is what I want."
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- See, that's what I try to say to my kids, but it doesn't
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- come out like that. I-I got to get my kids out here,
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- have 'em sit at your feet for a while.
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- Can you hang out with them around a campfire later tonight?
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- I love your kids. They're awesome.
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- Yeah, teenagers don't listen to their parents always
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- for reasons I don't understand.
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- I say the same things to them, and they're like, "Oh, cool."
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- -Oh, cool. -And then their parents are off
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- in the background like, "What is...?"
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- That's what I'm talk...
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- So, I-I think that teenagers
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- -have different challenges today... -Yeah.
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- -...than when I was a kid, or even when you were a kid. -Yeah.
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- What do you find unique about the challenges that-that
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- the kids are facing today?
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- -Yeah. -And helping them to really
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- understand what life is about?
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- The Internet and the phones and all of that stuff presents
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- unbelievable challenges to these people.
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- -And the amount of time... -Agreed.
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- ...and the awareness that you have
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- of what other people are doing,
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- what other people are experiencing-- it becomes
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- part of this, like, universal performance of:
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- How many people can I get to look at me?
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- -How many people can I get to give me a thumbs-up? -Yeah.
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- And living your life on that is really a...
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- It's a religion. It's a religion of trying
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- to get followers for yourself and trying to get people
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- to say, "You're wonderful.
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- You're great. We appreciate you."
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- And the crazy thing about Jesus is you realize
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- that he's willing to give you all of those things
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- -in a much fuller way... -Mm.
- 00:09:23.100 --> 00:09:24.210
- ...than you could experience on your own anyway.
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- And it's such a futile pursuit. I feel so terrible.
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- -And in such a real way. -Yeah.
- 00:09:28.290 --> 00:09:30.090
- -If I could jump in there, because... -Please.
- 00:09:30.100 --> 00:09:31.250
- -...Jesus knows who you really are. -Amen.
- 00:09:31.260 --> 00:09:33.130
- Your followers know who your Instagram profile is.
- 00:09:33.140 --> 00:09:35.090
- -Absolutely. -But they don't know
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- what's really going on inside--
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- your hopes, your dreams, your fears, your struggles.
- 00:09:37.290 --> 00:09:39.120
- -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -But-but God does.
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- Yo
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- You'
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- You've s
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- You've spent so mu
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- You've spent so much
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- You've spent so much t
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- You've spent so much tim
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- You've spent so much time
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- You've spent so much time
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- You've spent so much time wi
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- You've spent so much time with
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- You've spent so much time with..
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- You've spent so much time with...
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- You've spent so much time with... wi
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- You've spent so much time with... with
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- You've spent so much time with... with t
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- You've spent so much time with... with the
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- You've spent so much time with... with the y
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- You've spent so much time with... with the you
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- You've spent so much time with... with the youth
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- You've spent so much time with... with the youth.
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- -Yeah. -What do you think
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- would be really helpful for parents to know?
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- That, although the situations
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- that they're growing up in are different,
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- all of the core desires that they have are the exact same
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- -as the parents have. -Yeah.
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- So all of the core desires that people have...
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- I want to be known, I want to be accepted,
- 00:10:00.130 --> 00:10:03.290
- -and I want to be loved. -Mm.
- 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:05.190
- And all of the stuff that surrounds that is kind of
- 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.200
- the thing that gets all the headlines,
- 00:10:07.210 --> 00:10:09.050
- but at the core of it, all people are the same, really.
- 00:10:09.060 --> 00:10:11.180
- And all people want those same things.
- 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.080
- And I think figuring out how to appeal to those things
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- with your teenagers is really a great way to parent them.
- 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.180
- I want to be known. I want to be...
- 00:10:18.190 --> 00:10:20.210
- -Accepted. -Accepted.
- 00:10:20.220 --> 00:10:22.040
- -Yeah. Yeah. -That's a big one.
- 00:10:22.050 --> 00:10:23.200
- -And, uh, I want to be loved. -Absolutely.
- 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:26.070
- -I think parents can-- if I could say it-- -(sighs)
- 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.020
- they tend to focus on the fruit instead of the root.
- 00:10:28.030 --> 00:10:30.230
- They tend to focus on the behaviors of their child
- 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.250
- -instead of their beliefs of their child. -Yeah.
- 00:10:33.260 --> 00:10:36.040
- And, yeah. I mean, easy for me to say.
- 00:10:36.050 --> 00:10:37.250
- I don't have teenagers, but I work with them, so...
- 00:10:37.260 --> 00:10:40.110
- -Yeah. (laughs) -Yeah. (laughs)
- 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.080
- Just wait.
- 00:10:42.090 --> 00:10:44.110
- -Yeah. I know. I'm... -(laughs)
- 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.120
- I'm like, "Oh, my gosh,
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- I'm gonna be such a great dad to teenagers."
- 00:10:47.250 --> 00:10:49.150
- Then my son is just gonna be 14.
- 00:10:49.160 --> 00:10:51.020
- I'm gonna be crying and calling you on the phone.
- 00:10:51.030 --> 00:10:54.060
- You know what happened to me?
- 00:10:54.070 --> 00:10:55.290
- -I'm on this show called Growing Pains. -Yeah.
- 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.070
- -I grow up, get married, have six kids. -Yeah.
- 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.120
- And I find myself raising a little Mike Seaver.
- 00:11:01.130 --> 00:11:03.200
- -Oh. -It's like the whole thing's coming back to me.
- 00:11:03.210 --> 00:11:05.200
- -I love that. (laughs) -Yeah.
- 00:11:05.210 --> 00:11:07.190
- Landon, you created this whole video walk-through of the Bible.
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- Like, through the entire Bible,
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- and-and each book of the Bible in, like, seven minutes,
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- -eight minutes. -It's so fun.
- 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.040
- The word "Bible" in its original language means "book."
- 00:11:17.050 --> 00:11:19.280
- It's way better than The Lord of the Rings
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- and Twilight and Harry Potter combined.
- 00:11:21.150 --> 00:11:23.160
- He made man in his own image.
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- He put the man and woman in charge of
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- everything in the material world.
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- Teenagers are cement,
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- and when they're 11, it's really wet,
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- and when they're 18, it's really dry,
- 00:11:31.180 --> 00:11:33.170
- and you got this little window here.
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- I've been working with teenagers, and I was really
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- dissatisfied with the, uh, biblical literacy
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- of the teenagers in our own church.
- 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:39.250
- I just felt like, this is my job,
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- and we're not even doing a good job.
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- They don't know all the stories of the Bible, they don't know
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- all the covenants of the Bible, they don't know
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- all the movements of the Bible, they don't know all
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- the narratives of the Bible, and I was like, "My gosh."
- 00:11:47.230 --> 00:11:49.040
- So we sat down to make this curriculum,
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- and it's really just been a thing
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- that people have really responded to,
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- and I've really enjoyed doing it.
- 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.190
- And the whole point is what Paul says in Colossians 1.
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- He says, uh, "I want to make the Word fully known."
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- And I think that that's the job of every Christian.
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- That's my job, and I just...
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- Gosh, I-I just...
- 00:12:07.190 --> 00:12:09.020
- The Bible's on every shelf, it's in all these hotels,
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- it's on people's phones, and people don't know what it says.
- 00:12:11.260 --> 00:12:15.060
- Never has there been a piece of art
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- that more people owned and possessed
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- and fewer people knew.
- 00:12:19.130 --> 00:12:21.030
- -It's-it's crazy. -Mm.
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- Uh, there's nothing like that in the history of the world.
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- It's the greatest piece of art that the world has ever had
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- and the piece of art that the least amount of people
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- can accurately assess even what the content is,
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- -let alone what the message is. -Wow.
- 00:12:33.290 --> 00:12:36.110
- The Bible is like a hungry lion.
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- You just got to tell people what it says,
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- and it's gonna take care of itself.
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- It doesn't need a ton of adornment.
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- It doesn't need a ton of creativity.
- 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:45.280
- It doesn't really need a ton of anything.
- 00:12:45.290 --> 00:12:47.060
- Just figure out what it says and tell people,
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- and it's gonna impact them every time.
- 00:12:48.270 --> 00:12:51.000
- It makes me think of what the prophet Jeremiah said.
- 00:12:51.010 --> 00:12:53.050
- He said, "'Is not your word like fire?' declares the Lord."
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- And then he says, "'And isn't your word
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- like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?'"
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- And that's the power of the Bible.
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- It warms cold hearts like fire,
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- and it smashes hard hearts like a hammer.
- 00:13:07.250 --> 00:13:12.030
- -Hmm. -And watching that happen
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- is the greatest thing in the world.
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- Yeah.
- 00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:17.120
- I hear you. I-I hear you.
- 00:13:17.130 --> 00:13:18.290
- And-and what I love about what you do
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- is you take, uh, something that can seem, um...
- 00:13:20.260 --> 00:13:24.060
- so overwhelming to people,
- 00:13:24.070 --> 00:13:26.010
- -and you break it down into these really fun to... -Sure.
- 00:13:26.020 --> 00:13:28.250
- -I mean, you do the Book of Job in eight minutes. -(laughs)
- 00:13:28.260 --> 00:13:31.050
- It-it's awesome. I love the way that you do that.
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- LANDON: Job answering this question:
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- Why do bad things happen?
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- Job was great because he loved God.
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- Job was close to God all the time.
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- What happens when that is tested?
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- God comes in a whirlwind and speaks for several chapters.
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- Can you defeat a behemoth?
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- It's probably a dinosaur. No.
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- Can you fish out leviathan with a hook?
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- It's probably an extinct sea serpent. No.
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- In His own gracious way, God blesses Job.
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- Animals, children and life.
- 00:13:56.020 --> 00:13:57.230
- Job lived to be 140 years old full of awesome days with God.
- 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:01.250
- That was a tough one, yeah. And as I've been doing it,
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- I'm like, "Gosh, I don't even know everything
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- that's in here yet." Job was... Job was a fun one.
- 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:08.050
- I loved that.
- 00:14:08.060 --> 00:14:09.090
- If you could go back and talk to yourself
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- -when you were in youth group... -Yeah.
- 00:14:13.020 --> 00:14:15.160
- -Yeah. -You go back and talk
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- -to the 14-year-old version of yourself now... -Yeah.
- 00:14:17.010 --> 00:14:21.090
- Wh-What do you... What would you say to yourself?
- 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:23.270
- That all the promises of God are absolutely truer
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- than you can possibly imagine.
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- And that every day and every minute that you spend
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- living like they're not true, you end up regretting.
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- And you end up...
- 00:14:32.260 --> 00:14:35.050
- sick and sore and hurt and in pain.
- 00:14:35.060 --> 00:14:38.150
- And every moment that you spend
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- truly believing that all the promises of God
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- are as true as God says they are
- 00:14:42.290 --> 00:14:44.210
- are the moments that are treasured and lasting
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- in becoming the type of person that you want to become.
- 00:14:46.170 --> 00:14:49.240
- I wish I could tell myself that.
- 00:14:49.250 --> 00:14:51.190
- Took a minute to get it all figured out, but...
- 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.020
- -Yeah. -Yeah.
- 00:14:54.030 --> 00:14:55.190
- But you know what? You are telling
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- thousands and tens of thousands
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- and-and soon millions of young people
- 00:15:00.070 --> 00:15:02.160
- that exact message
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- -through the videos that you're making. -Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 00:15:04.170 --> 00:15:06.230
- I'm so proud of you.
- 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.160
- -Oh, thank you. -I'm so thankful for you.
- 00:15:08.170 --> 00:15:10.040
- -(chuckles) -All right, have you had enough to eat?
- 00:15:10.050 --> 00:15:11.230
- -I have, yeah. -You have?
- 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.080
- I did set up a little activity for us.
- 00:15:13.090 --> 00:15:15.200
- -I challenge you... -Oh, no.
- 00:15:15.210 --> 00:15:17.200
- I double-dog dare you to enter
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- into a one-on-one competition with me
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- -youth group style. -Okay.
- 00:15:22.130 --> 00:15:24.050
- -You up for it? -I have...
- 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:26.020
- I'm sure the people watching this won't believe this,
- 00:15:26.030 --> 00:15:27.290
- but I have no idea what's gonna happen.
- 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.000
- -He really doesn't. No, you don't. Absolutely. -And-and I'm up for it.
- 00:15:30.010 --> 00:15:31.280
- -I'm up for it. Let's do it. -All right. All right.
- 00:15:31.290 --> 00:15:33.170
- Let's go. Follow me.
- 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:34.230
- Let's go this way.
- 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.240
- Old MacDonald's gonna lose.
- 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:40.240
- Ooh. Okay.
- 00:15:40.250 --> 00:15:42.070
- -I'm telling you, you're going down, Landon. -I...
- 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:43.270
- I've led a lot of games in my time,
- 00:15:43.280 --> 00:15:45.260
- but I always know what's happening, so...
- 00:15:45.270 --> 00:15:47.260
- So, this... so, this is the one-on-one competition.
- 00:15:47.270 --> 00:15:49.150
- This is youth group style. We-we've put together
- 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:52.100
- -a whole series of youth group games. -So good.
- 00:15:52.110 --> 00:15:54.230
- This is, like, a secret box,
- 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.220
- -and you... and you can't see in, right? -Yeah.
- 00:15:56.230 --> 00:15:58.190
- There's no way to see in, but there's holes in the back.
- 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:01.190
- -You put your hands in. -Yeah.
- 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.060
- KIRK: The other person is going to open up a bag
- 00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:05.050
- -full of items and put the items inside the box. -Okay.
- 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:08.020
- And you have to-to figure out
- 00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:10.020
- what they are without seeing them.
- 00:16:10.030 --> 00:16:11.200
- -You guess first. -Okay.
- 00:16:11.210 --> 00:16:13.090
- All right, here we go. Hands in.
- 00:16:13.100 --> 00:16:15.140
- -Hands in. -Ooh!
- 00:16:15.150 --> 00:16:17.120
- Those aren't, like, X-ray glasses, you can see
- 00:16:17.130 --> 00:16:19.000
- -through the bin, are they? -No.
- 00:16:19.010 --> 00:16:20.070
- Oh, my goodness!
- 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:22.060
- -Stop it. -Is that alive?
- 00:16:22.070 --> 00:16:24.040
- Stop with your acting skills, please. (chuckles)
- 00:16:24.050 --> 00:16:26.250
- Oh, I don't even want to touch that.
- 00:16:26.260 --> 00:16:28.210
- -Proceed. -Okay.
- 00:16:28.220 --> 00:16:31.120
- That is the nastiest thing I have ever seen.
- 00:16:31.130 --> 00:16:34.060
- LANDON: So, that's got to be...
- 00:16:34.070 --> 00:16:36.210
- It's, like... it's, like, a plant type thing.
- 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:38.160
- -Is that a cauliflower? -(bell dings)
- 00:16:38.170 --> 00:16:39.260
- -You are correct. -(laughs): Yeah!
- 00:16:39.270 --> 00:16:42.200
- -You are correct. -One for one.
- 00:16:42.210 --> 00:16:44.060
- Whoa! Okay. All right. There.
- 00:16:45.260 --> 00:16:48.010
- There. Go ahead.
- 00:16:48.020 --> 00:16:49.210
- There. Oh!
- 00:16:49.220 --> 00:16:51.060
- Kirk, I think that that is a plush novelty mouse.
- 00:16:52.140 --> 00:16:56.100
- -(bell dings) -Yes!
- 00:16:56.110 --> 00:16:57.110
- -Let's go! -(laughs)
- 00:16:57.120 --> 00:16:58.190
- -Two for two. Come on. -Two for two. Two for two.
- 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:01.040
- Okay.
- 00:17:02.140 --> 00:17:04.130
- LANDON: Okay, um... circular.
- 00:17:04.140 --> 00:17:08.030
- Feels like a really, really terrible airplane pillow,
- 00:17:08.040 --> 00:17:10.210
- but what is it actually?
- 00:17:10.220 --> 00:17:12.030
- -Is it a toilet seat? -(bell dings)
- 00:17:12.040 --> 00:17:13.260
- -Yes! A toilet seat. -Yes.
- 00:17:13.270 --> 00:17:15.150
- Ooh, that was really gross.
- 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.000
- That's, like, a baby toilet seat, too.
- 00:17:17.010 --> 00:17:18.180
- I was just definitely feeling all over that.
- 00:17:18.190 --> 00:17:20.210
- Hands in, my friend.
- 00:17:20.220 --> 00:17:22.120
- -(clears throat) Let me use your glasses. -Oh, man.
- 00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:24.220
- You can if you want. Just to prove that they're not anything.
- 00:17:24.230 --> 00:17:27.010
- -Those are gonna look good on you. -(chuckles): Oh!
- 00:17:27.020 --> 00:17:28.200
- I can so see right through this now.
- 00:17:28.210 --> 00:17:30.090
- -Now I know your secret. -Those look good on you.
- 00:17:30.100 --> 00:17:32.180
- Okay, here's item number one. Go ahead.
- 00:17:32.190 --> 00:17:34.170
- -Item number one? -Yep.
- 00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:36.270
- Okay. Clearly, this is a Chicago Cubs baseball hat.
- 00:17:36.280 --> 00:17:40.250
- -It is a hat. You are correct. -(bell dings)
- 00:17:40.260 --> 00:17:42.260
- Seems like there's some glitter on it. Well done.
- 00:17:42.270 --> 00:17:44.250
- Ready? Number two.
- 00:17:44.260 --> 00:17:46.230
- Okay, this is so... this is... this is...
- 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.170
- I know it's gonna get harder now.
- 00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:50.020
- Oh! This is... It could be a cucumber,
- 00:17:50.030 --> 00:17:52.270
- but I'm gonna go with
- 00:17:52.280 --> 00:17:54.060
- -a gherkin, a small pickle. -(bell dings)
- 00:17:54.070 --> 00:17:56.210
- -Unfortunately... -What...?
- 00:17:56.220 --> 00:17:58.090
- -...for me, you are correct. -(laughs): Oh, yes!
- 00:17:58.100 --> 00:18:00.270
- Your knowledge of small pickle names is astounding to me.
- 00:18:00.280 --> 00:18:04.000
- You've pulled three out of the air.
- 00:18:04.010 --> 00:18:05.200
- -What's a gherkin? Like... -That's a small pickle.
- 00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:09.030
- This last one, I-I think I saved the hardest one for last.
- 00:18:09.040 --> 00:18:11.160
- -Great. Perfect. -'Cause I think that that's fair.
- 00:18:11.170 --> 00:18:13.060
- Good luck, my friend.
- 00:18:13.070 --> 00:18:15.010
- KIRK: Okay. It's not hard like brittle.
- 00:18:15.020 --> 00:18:17.030
- It's-it's very firm, but it... but...
- 00:18:17.040 --> 00:18:20.160
- I like cooking so much...
- 00:18:20.170 --> 00:18:23.010
- -Please get it wrong. -...that I think
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- this is a piece of ginger root.
- 00:18:25.170 --> 00:18:27.280
- -Oh, my gosh. -(bell dings)
- 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:29.140
- -You're right. -Yes!
- 00:18:29.150 --> 00:18:31.150
- -(whoops) -I did not think
- 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.260
- -you'd get that one. -Ginger root, baby.
- 00:18:33.270 --> 00:18:35.210
- All right. Here's what we do. We go on to round number two.
- 00:18:35.220 --> 00:18:38.090
- -Okay. Let's go. -All right. Let's go.
- 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:39.190
- (sniffles)
- 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.130
- -All right, here's what we're gonna do. Ready? -All right. Yeah.
- 00:18:41.140 --> 00:18:43.210
- Okay. At this point, we're tied,
- 00:18:43.220 --> 00:18:45.020
- but that's all gonna change right now,
- 00:18:45.030 --> 00:18:46.170
- because this requires next-level jumping skills.
- 00:18:46.180 --> 00:18:50.210
- How are your jumping skills?
- 00:18:50.220 --> 00:18:52.010
- -Uh, poor at best. -This is the good old-fashioned
- 00:18:52.020 --> 00:18:54.200
- -gunny sack race, right here. -Okay.
- 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:57.210
- There's the starting line. There is your sack.
- 00:18:57.220 --> 00:18:59.190
- This is my sack.
- 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.010
- -That's it. All right, enter your sack. -Okay.
- 00:19:01.020 --> 00:19:02.210
- (Landon blows raspberry)
- 00:19:04.040 --> 00:19:06.030
- -Here we go. I'm ready. -All right? All right?
- 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:08.030
- -You got it? You ready? -Yep. I want to beat you so bad.
- 00:19:08.040 --> 00:19:11.020
- (laughing)
- 00:19:11.030 --> 00:19:12.130
- 00:19:12.140 --> 00:19:14.240
- MAN: Three, two, one, go!
- 00:19:27.170 --> 00:19:29.160
- Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Good.
- 00:19:29.170 --> 00:19:31.040
- Good, good, good, good.
- 00:19:31.050 --> 00:19:33.050
- 00:19:33.060 --> 00:19:35.060
- Okay. That's good, Landon, but you're about to lose.
- 00:19:39.150 --> 00:19:42.120
- (grunts)
- 00:19:42.130 --> 00:19:43.180
- (slowed-down speech): No. No!
- 00:19:43.190 --> 00:19:46.170
- (slowed-down grunting and groaning)
- 00:19:46.180 --> 00:19:49.070
- -(laughs) -Oh, look at this guy.
- 00:19:50.280 --> 00:19:52.130
- Look at this guy!
- 00:19:52.140 --> 00:19:53.170
- -Way too confident. -(laughing): Oh.
- 00:19:53.180 --> 00:19:56.040
- -(panting) -Nice.
- 00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:57.100
- So, why did you let me go? What are you thinking?
- 00:20:01.250 --> 00:20:04.250
- -I was trying to psych you out. -You did.
- 00:20:04.260 --> 00:20:06.240
- So that you would make a mistake.
- 00:20:06.250 --> 00:20:08.050
- You psyched me out until you fell.
- 00:20:08.060 --> 00:20:09.130
- And you didn't make a mistake.
- 00:20:09.140 --> 00:20:10.190
- -Next round, next level. -Okay.
- 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.000
- -KIRK: See the spoons? -Yup.
- 00:20:13.010 --> 00:20:14.260
- "But, Kirk, how are we gonna
- 00:20:14.270 --> 00:20:16.080
- pick all these spoons up?" you ask.
- 00:20:16.090 --> 00:20:18.040
- -(laughs) -Answer:
- 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:19.210
- with your duct-tape head.
- 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:22.220
- Are you gonna give me a head start and then regret it again?
- 00:20:22.230 --> 00:20:25.250
- Uh... no, I learned my lesson last time.
- 00:20:25.260 --> 00:20:27.120
- (laughs)
- 00:20:27.130 --> 00:20:28.260
- There are some ground rules:
- 00:20:28.270 --> 00:20:30.010
- -no hands, no biting. -Okay.
- 00:20:30.020 --> 00:20:31.120
- So you can't, like, take the spoons
- 00:20:31.130 --> 00:20:32.170
- -and jam 'em on the hat? -You can't... No.
- 00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:33.260
- -Okay. -You have to do it with your head.
- 00:20:33.270 --> 00:20:35.110
- All the spoons will be gone, and they'll be stuck
- 00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:37.100
- to somebody's head. We count whoever has the most spoons...
- 00:20:37.110 --> 00:20:39.090
- I love this. Okay, this is gonna be great.
- 00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:41.290
- Okay? You ready?
- 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.280
- All right. (clears throat)
- 00:20:43.290 --> 00:20:45.130
- MAN: Ready...
- 00:20:45.140 --> 00:20:47.020
- set... go.
- 00:20:47.030 --> 00:20:48.260
- Whoa!
- 00:20:52.090 --> 00:20:54.100
- Oh, gosh.
- 00:21:00.260 --> 00:21:02.120
- (laughs)
- 00:21:02.130 --> 00:21:03.200
- I can't get this one.
- 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:05.120
- (laughs)
- 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:06.260
- -Done! -There we go.
- 00:21:06.270 --> 00:21:08.120
- Okay, so now we're gonna count?
- 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:12.080
- I think I got you with this one.
- 00:21:12.090 --> 00:21:13.240
- I can see your hat. You have very few
- 00:21:13.250 --> 00:21:15.240
- spoons up there.
- 00:21:15.250 --> 00:21:17.180
- Count my... Count.
- 00:21:17.190 --> 00:21:18.230
- 17, 18, 19.
- 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.140
- -19. -Yeah, I counted the two that are still on.
- 00:21:21.150 --> 00:21:23.200
- Oh, oh, look at that. See there? Look at that.
- 00:21:23.210 --> 00:21:25.090
- I-I counted those two.
- 00:21:25.100 --> 00:21:26.190
- We're gonna count your spoons. Ready?
- 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:27.270
- -Come on! Come on! Come on! -16, 17, 18...
- 00:21:27.280 --> 00:21:30.080
- -19. -Come on. One more.
- 00:21:32.040 --> 00:21:33.280
- -20! -Let's go!
- 00:21:33.290 --> 00:21:35.200
- Aah! You did... Aah.
- 00:21:35.210 --> 00:21:37.250
- All right, all right.
- 00:21:37.260 --> 00:21:39.070
- Well done. Well done.
- 00:21:39.080 --> 00:21:40.190
- 19 to 20. Look at that. This is close.
- 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:42.170
- It's getting very close.
- 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:44.060
- -But the next one, you don't have a chance. -Okay.
- 00:21:44.070 --> 00:21:46.150
- -Okay? -What is it?
- 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.280
- Al
- 00:21:53.010 --> 00:21:53.020
- All
- 00:21:53.020 --> 00:21:53.030
- All ri
- 00:21:53.030 --> 00:21:53.040
- All righ
- 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:53.050
- All right,
- 00:21:53.050 --> 00:21:53.060
- All right,
- 00:21:53.060 --> 00:21:53.070
- All right,
- 00:21:53.070 --> 00:21:53.080
- All right, he
- 00:21:53.080 --> 00:21:53.090
- All right, here
- 00:21:53.090 --> 00:21:53.100
- All right, here's
- 00:21:53.100 --> 00:21:53.110
- All right, here's o
- 00:21:53.110 --> 00:21:53.120
- All right, here's our
- 00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:53.130
- All right, here's our f
- 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:53.140
- All right, here's our fin
- 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:53.150
- All right, here's our final
- 00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:53.160
- All right, here's our final c
- 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:53.170
- All right, here's our final com
- 00:21:53.170 --> 00:21:53.180
- All right, here's our final compe
- 00:21:53.180 --> 00:21:53.190
- All right, here's our final competi
- 00:21:53.190 --> 00:21:53.200
- All right, here's our final competiti
- 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:53.210
- All right, here's our final competition
- 00:21:53.210 --> 00:21:53.220
- All right, here's our final competition.
- 00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:54.110
- This looks like your average
- 00:21:54.120 --> 00:21:55.170
- dunking-for-apples kind of a situation,
- 00:21:55.180 --> 00:21:57.150
- but there is a mystery ingredient.
- 00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:59.080
- -Oh. -Which is this right there:
- 00:21:59.090 --> 00:22:02.060
- two pieces... of cow tongue.
- 00:22:02.070 --> 00:22:05.230
- -(cow lowing) -Oh, no.
- 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:06.280
- Take a nibble at that.
- 00:22:06.290 --> 00:22:08.100
- -Oh. Is it gonna thaw in the water? -All right?
- 00:22:08.110 --> 00:22:10.150
- -Here we go. -Oh, no.
- 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:12.020
- KIRK: The apples are each worth one point.
- 00:22:12.030 --> 00:22:15.050
- The cow tongue is worth five points.
- 00:22:15.060 --> 00:22:17.190
- You ready?
- 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:18.250
- No.
- 00:22:18.260 --> 00:22:20.160
- MAN: Ready, set... go!
- 00:22:20.170 --> 00:22:23.020
- Oh. Wow, that's cold!
- 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:26.070
- Oh, I took a piece of... I took a piece
- 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.230
- of the tongue. It was really bad.
- 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.140
- (Landon exhales sharply)
- 00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:39.270
- (muffled yelling)
- 00:22:39.280 --> 00:22:43.040
- -Oh, he's done! -MAN: Done.
- 00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:49.260
- -He's done. -MAN: Done.
- 00:22:49.270 --> 00:22:51.050
- I have cow tongue between my teeth.
- 00:22:53.020 --> 00:22:55.120
- Oh, my neck. (sighs)
- 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:58.010
- Kirk, I see a good amount of apples still floating
- 00:22:58.020 --> 00:23:00.030
- -in your bin, my friend. -Yes, but I...
- 00:23:00.040 --> 00:23:02.040
- Oh, you got the tongue, too.
- 00:23:02.050 --> 00:23:03.290
- (laughing): Look at how wet we are.
- 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:06.070
- -Oh, my gosh. -Well done.
- 00:23:06.080 --> 00:23:07.290
- -Thank you. -Well done.
- 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.070
- -Yes! -You're the winner,
- 00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:10.120
- -so you get the grand prize. -Okay.
- 00:23:10.130 --> 00:23:12.040
- To get that...
- 00:23:12.050 --> 00:23:14.040
- -...we have one more competition. -Okay.
- 00:23:14.050 --> 00:23:16.170
- It's you... against the piñata.
- 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:18.290
- -I like it. -Follow me.
- 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.040
- I like it. (sighs)
- 00:23:20.050 --> 00:23:21.250
- -Congratulations. You are the winner. -Thank you.
- 00:23:21.260 --> 00:23:23.140
- And I would like to present you with your victory scepter.
- 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:25.240
- -Thank you, sir. -And your grand prize
- 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:27.270
- is inside the pineapple piñata.
- 00:23:27.280 --> 00:23:30.100
- Go get it.
- 00:23:30.110 --> 00:23:32.260
- -Okay. -I like it.
- 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:38.250
- I hope you like the grand prize.
- 00:23:38.260 --> 00:23:41.080
- Boom!
- 00:23:41.090 --> 00:23:43.070
- -Wow. -2019 Youth Camp Games Champion!
- 00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:47.080
- -I love that. Oh, my gosh. -You like it?
- 00:23:47.090 --> 00:23:48.230
- I can't be... I'm gonna text you a picture
- 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.280
- -of me wearing this. -That would be awesome.
- 00:23:50.290 --> 00:23:52.170
- -Because I won. -I-I would love that.
- 00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:54.020
- -Thank you so much. -No. Thank you for having me.
- 00:23:54.030 --> 00:23:55.240
- -Hey, what do you say we go dry off? -Yeah.
- 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:57.240
- -And brush our teeth. -Yeah, yeah.
- 00:23:57.250 --> 00:23:59.050
- 00:24:01.040 --> 00:24:03.040
- Following Jesus isn't a list of things to do.
- 00:24:15.070 --> 00:24:17.160
- It's a list of people to follow, and it's just one thing long.
- 00:24:17.170 --> 00:24:20.130
- And if you're... if you're following Jesus,
- 00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:21.240
- you become all of these other things anyway,
- 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:23.280
- -and-and the list just falls away. -Mm.
- 00:24:23.290 --> 00:24:26.060