The Family Meeting Part 2
October 31, 2016
28:34
Living by Faith with Mike & DeeDee Freeman
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The Family Meeting Part 2
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- I said everybody, I invited everybody over.
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- - Now shouldn't that be a family matter?
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- - Because some of you may try to keep it within this part,
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- well I need to take it out you know a little wider
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- because you don't know who have your answer.
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- - But were you even thinking along that line?
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- - No, but I'm thinking this is my family.
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- We know how to pray and come together,
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- this is what we do.
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- - And that's why you would involve your family
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- in some of these issues.
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- We're not just gossiping.
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- We're not just spreading information.
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- We need those who can get with us in faith,
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- because one can chase a thousand,
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- and two can put 10.000.
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- So why not, why not your family?
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- Who do you think will cover you the most?
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- Now that's not all y'alls family.
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- - Yeah that's not everybody's family.
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- - Okay.
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- - God had to tell me that I was destroying something
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- in Brelyn that she would need later in life.
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- Because my position at that time was just to break her.
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- Was to show her that I'm in charge, I'm the mother,
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- I'm the grown up.
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- You gonna do exactly what I say do,
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- even if it wasn't even all that important
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- to be done at that particular time.
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- Or not that necessary.
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- And so God had to tell me that.
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- And now, when I look back at it
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- and I see where she is to now.
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- - Today.
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- - See where she is today, and I can understand
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- the you know, what she need to carry out the assignment
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- that's on her life.
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- I mean the courage, - [Pastor] Okay.
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- - [DeeDee and Pastor] the boldness,
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- - [DeeDee] the fortitude, she just wouldn't back down.
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- She's not afraid of anything.
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- She ain't shy.
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- She's just not--
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- - And so you saw that now--
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- - I see it now, or I saw it much later,
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- but I didn't see it then.
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- And so now I teach people--
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- - And you were trying to whoop
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- some of the traits and characteristics
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- that got. - [DeeDee] Out of her that--
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- - [Pastor] Instead of nurturing
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- and identifying, - [DeeDee] Exactly.
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- - [Pastor] what God has placed in her.
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- - Exactly.
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- - That's a good lesson there.
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- - And so now I teach people
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- how to recognize. - [Pastor] Because some kids
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- - [Pastor] are class clowns at school.
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- - Mmm hmm, mmm hmm.
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- (audience laughs)
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- - And they're going about it the wrong way.
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- Who knows, they may be the next Kevin Hart.
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- - Yeah, or real talkative.
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- You know just talk a lot and always wanna debate.
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- And you try to beat that out of em
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- and tell them shut up all the time.
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- You don't know, they may be an attorney or something.
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- You know, or a preacher.
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- You know or pastor.
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- So you have to identify what's on their life.
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- - Okay, I don't want to get into
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- parenting too much. - [DeeDee] Exactly.
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- - [Pastor] But here's what I was thinking.
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- It's quite intriguing to me, to be able to have
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- an opportunity to speak to mentors of mine.
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- Like we were just so privileged not too long ago
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- to sit down with T.D and Sarah Jakes.
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- Serita Jakes.
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- And you know, to sit down and just hear from
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- a perspective where no one's preaching or teaching
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- or the set up is not as such.
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- As far as the pulpit parishioner scene.
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- But just sitting down and listening,
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- imposing questions.
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- We have the same opportunity with Dr. Price,
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- and Creflo and Taffi, and just recently
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- I.V. and Bridget Hilliard.
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- I think more is caught than taught.
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- And sometimes you don't need to be preached to.
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- You need to just have an exchange.
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- Like, let's make this a living room discussion.
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- Between you and I, your family and my family.
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- And let's engage, it should be a more like
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- a participatory kind of setting.
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- Where you're engaged.
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- Ask us anything.
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- Because if you had us one on one,
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- what are some of the things that you would be curious about
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- and want to know how we went about.
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- Like when in our marriage we decided
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- we were gonna have one viewing station.
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- They were not gonna have televisions in their rooms.
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- Maybe for some of the young parents,
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- you've already have a set up
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- where everyone has a television.
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- Well, I don't think that's the best way
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- to raise or to rear a child in that
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- central viewing station happening to be
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- very profitable to us.
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- So we got a bunch of close--
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- - I do but I didn't finish my point.
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- Because when I started talking about Brelyn
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- and I was telling you all about how I just
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- used to lose it all the time.
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- Well I knew, I'm thinking about my husband.
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- I'm saying okay, so his great grandfather pastor,
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- his grandfather pastor, his father pastor, he a pastor.
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- I knew it was no doubt that somebody in my family
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- was gonna be standing up here preaching one day.
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- So I had to begin to create memories.
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- Somebody, I didn't say you Josh.
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- You know, so I knew.
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- So I knew that I had to start creating some good things
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- that I wanted them to say about me.
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- I knew one of them have all the crazy--
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- - Oh that was your motive for stop being crazy?
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- - Oh definitely, oh yes.
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- I said, "This ain't good.
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- "I know they gonna stand up in front of people one day
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- "and tell all the crazy stuff.
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- "I want them to have some good stuff to say."
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- And so I used to ask them, they'll tell ya.
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- I used to say "Okay, now when you preach
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- "what are you gonna say?"
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- They were little, and I would ask them.
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- I wanted to know some of the good stuff.
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- Cause I didn't wanna know just the crazy stuff.
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- So whatever it takes. - [Pastor] Okay.
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- - [Pastor] Okay, so get it started.
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- - Okay good.
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- So we have a few questions.
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- - That we're gonna ask them?
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- - That we're gonna ask them
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- and we gonna allow them to participate.
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- And either of you can just jump in.
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- Britney probably a little bit more acquainted
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- with these a lot of these things I guess.
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- But Josh knows something, Keisha as well.
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- It says, "Do you tell your family
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- "about issues in your marriage?"
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- Now we are the family.
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- So not just everybody in general.
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- But do you tell, you know, because some of you
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- may have family members that you're very close to
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- and you share a lot of things with and you wanna know that.
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- And your husband or your wife may not want
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- you to share certain things and so--
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- - Who formulated these questions?
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- - They asked just some random people.
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- - Okay, what about you all?
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- Do you tell your family about your stuff?
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- (audience responds)
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- You don't?
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- (audience responds)
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- Okay, give me the hands of those who don't.
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- Well I don't family nothing.
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- And then you tell your wife, "I tell you what,
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- "you better not be telling your family."
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- (audience laughs)
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- How many of y'all say I do?
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- I do tell my.
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- And my hand is raised.
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- You know there's this misnomer I think that exists
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- where we don't involve our families
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- because after a while we'll be back together,
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- and they'll still hold the same grudge.
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- Is that the premise that you all are thinking?
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- (audience responds)
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- - Yeah, well that's, I mean I wouldn't tell
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- that family member either.
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- I would talk only family member like I wouldn't
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- expect to talk with Lisa and tell her some things
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- and then let her have a issue with you
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- when things were okay with us.
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- I would only talk to family members that I know
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- that are mature enough to handle certain things.
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- Would not be judgemental,
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- but be able to give me wise counsel.
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- - Oh y'all always going along with DeeDee.
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- It's amazing.
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- Everything DeeDee said "He He DeeDee."
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- I'm talking about issues of problems,
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- or issues. - [DeeDee] Yes, yes, yes.
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- - [DeeDee] And I'm gonna tell you something--
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- - Do you tell your family?
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- - Yes, that's what I just said.
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- I had family members I would tell.
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- - If we're having a problem.
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- She left me one time.
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- Was I at work?
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- - Yes.
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- - I went off to work, I didn't even know you left me.
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- - I know.
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- - She packed up all her clothes and she left me.
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- And while she was leaving the house
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- with all her clothes.
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- Did you all know she left me?
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- You knew?!
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- I guess everybody.
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- Have you seen her
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- Why oh why
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- Did she have to leave me
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- - You know, you know.
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- Go away
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- You wouldn't be singing that song, you would know.
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- - Listen, she left me.
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- Lisa saw you.
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- Or did you stop by her house?
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- - I saw Lisa, I stopped.
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- I saw her and I turned around.
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- We stopped and talked.
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- And then I came back to her house.
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- - And Lisa talked you into not leaving me?
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- - Yeah.
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- (audience laughs)
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- - I'm glad you're so overwhelmed
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- and enthused by that.
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- You know?
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- - I am now, but then I wasn't.
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- - What did she say?
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- - I have no idea?
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- - But why didn't she tell me you was leaving me?
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- - Why's she gonna tell you?
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- - So family's should have like secrets,
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- where you tell her stuff.
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- - I didn't even go nowhere.
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- I just took a ride.
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- (audience laughs)
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- - That was gonna be a one way trip.
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- - So Britney, - [Pastor] That's cool.
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- - [DeeDee] ask Britney, I would like to know
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- what they would say.
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- - Well it all depends.
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- - All depends.
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- - Like if it's an issue that we can handle on our own, no.
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- If it's an issue that we're struggling with,
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- and we need some outside help,
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- then that's when we come to y'all.
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- - [Pastor] You would come and tell me
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- the things that you all have challenging?
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- - Yeah, if it's continuous challenges.
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- I mean cause there have
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- been some challenges. - [Pastor] Is that the norm?
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- - [DeeDee] Is what the norm? - [Britney] It all depends.
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- - Is that because I'm a pastor?
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- - [DeeDee] No.
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- - Should other people who have father's
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- who are spiritual and da da da da?
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- - I think again, if they're gonna give wise counsel
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- and not be judgemental. (Britney mumbles)
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- - [Pastor] Okay, I'm glad you feel comfortable
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- in that race car.
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- - No, I do.
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- At first I didn't cause I thought
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- I always had to protect him.
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- - That's good.
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- - Yeah.
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- - And some wives are protecting husband's inconsistencies
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- as such and aren't revealing
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- some of those inadequacies.
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- And it's detrimental for the relationship.
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- It really is. - [DeeDee] Totally.
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- - [Pastor] Because it's a pride thing really
- 00:11:18.260 --> 00:11:22.170
- that's preventing them to kind of expose
- 00:11:22.170 --> 00:11:27.130
- to help opposed to cover to hurt.
- 00:11:27.130 --> 00:11:31.220
- And that's so important.
- 00:11:33.190 --> 00:11:35.140
- She told me years ago.
- 00:11:35.160 --> 00:11:37.000
- She said "I tell you what, I don't do phony.
- 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.200
- "And so you can act like you wanna act one way at home
- 00:11:41.160 --> 00:11:44.230
- "and then expect for me to act a certain way at church.
- 00:11:44.230 --> 00:11:47.260
- "I'm not gonna be putting on with you and your games."
- 00:11:47.260 --> 00:11:51.240
- And some of you wives are going along
- 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:55.070
- with some of this stuff and that's why he hadn't
- 00:11:55.070 --> 00:11:58.050
- stopped some of that goofy stuff.
- 00:11:58.050 --> 00:12:01.290
- Because he knows that you're just gonna sit
- 00:12:02.030 --> 00:12:04.230
- there in silence and in pain and let it go.
- 00:12:04.230 --> 00:12:09.170
- Well you're not, you're doing your entire relationship
- 00:12:09.170 --> 00:12:14.010
- and children a disservice.
- 00:12:14.010 --> 00:12:17.010
- Somebody should know about that.
- 00:12:18.170 --> 00:12:20.080
- I remember when I came home from the hospital.
- 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.250
- I just had enough of hospitals
- 00:12:23.050 --> 00:12:24.290
- and doctors and all this thing.
- 00:12:24.290 --> 00:12:26.250
- I'm a grown dog gone man.
- 00:12:26.250 --> 00:12:28.070
- And she...
- 00:12:28.070 --> 00:12:29.200
- She opens the door for this therapist
- 00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:33.170
- and she said "Mike the therapist is here."
- 00:12:33.170 --> 00:12:35.170
- I said "Tell him I said go away."
- 00:12:35.170 --> 00:12:38.070
- And she said "No," she came back into the bedroom.
- 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:42.020
- "You gonna come out here now.
- 00:12:42.020 --> 00:12:43.150
- "I'm telling you right now you gonna come
- 00:12:43.150 --> 00:12:44.280
- "out of this room.
- 00:12:44.280 --> 00:12:46.100
- "This man done come all this way to take care of you
- 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:48.200
- "and you gonna sit back here.
- 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:49.180
- "I ain't having it."
- 00:12:49.180 --> 00:12:50.250
- I said, "You just better get on out this room.
- 00:12:53.060 --> 00:12:55.140
- "And tell that man I'm not coming out."
- 00:12:56.020 --> 00:12:58.040
- She said "I tell you what, I'm gonna go get Dr. Price
- 00:12:58.230 --> 00:13:01.000
- "on the phone right now."
- 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:02.100
- I said "Well call him."
- 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:04.000
- - What did I do? - [Pastor] I believe.
- 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:06.280
- - [Pastor] She called him.
- 00:13:06.280 --> 00:13:08.060
- I believe that there should be
- 00:13:09.220 --> 00:13:11.230
- some level of authority that's in every man's life
- 00:13:11.230 --> 00:13:16.080
- where he will have to sit up in the presence of another man,
- 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.180
- or at least some kind of accountability.
- 00:13:20.180 --> 00:13:23.250
- - Yes.
- 00:13:23.250 --> 00:13:25.010
- Somebody that you'll - [Pastor] You know
- 00:13:25.010 --> 00:13:26.070
- listen to. - [Pastor] you on your own
- 00:13:26.070 --> 00:13:26.260
- and such.
- 00:13:26.260 --> 00:13:28.080
- - Somebody that you will - [DeeDee] That's dangerous.
- 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.130
- - [Pastor] listen to is dangerous.
- 00:13:29.130 --> 00:13:30.110
- We're at the point right now,
- 00:13:30.130 --> 00:13:31.250
- that I'm doing most of the talking because I got
- 00:13:31.250 --> 00:13:34.190
- so many things really together I don't have to do
- 00:13:34.190 --> 00:13:37.260
- as much listening as I once had to do.
- 00:13:37.260 --> 00:13:40.250
- I've entered into a position where I'm now fathering,
- 00:13:40.250 --> 00:13:44.160
- I'm fathering men and pastor's and others
- 00:13:44.160 --> 00:13:48.290
- who are submitting their relationship to our lives.
- 00:13:48.290 --> 00:13:51.230
- And I'm giving them principals that's
- 00:13:51.230 --> 00:13:54.060
- causing them to have great relationship.
- 00:13:54.060 --> 00:13:56.100
- But it's so good to know even my own daughter and son,
- 00:13:56.100 --> 00:13:59.180
- you feel the same way Kevin?
- 00:13:59.180 --> 00:14:01.040
- I mean if she came to me about that?
- 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:03.160
- - Yeah. - [Pastor] Or anything.
- 00:14:03.260 --> 00:14:04.260
- - [Pastor] I think it should.
- 00:14:05.100 --> 00:14:06.080
- Tim looking like, "I don't know
- 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:07.150
- "if we gonna do that."
- 00:14:07.150 --> 00:14:08.240
- Do you see him down there like.
- 00:14:09.260 --> 00:14:11.050
- (audience laughs)
- 00:14:11.050 --> 00:14:12.180
- - [DeeDee] Like "We ain't talked about
- 00:14:12.180 --> 00:14:13.260
- "this Bre, Bre." - [Pastor] Is that your look
- 00:14:13.260 --> 00:14:14.190
- - [Pastor] or what?
- 00:14:14.190 --> 00:14:16.090
- But still, you're in almost on something
- 00:14:16.290 --> 00:14:20.190
- like our family meeting in this setting.
- 00:14:20.190 --> 00:14:23.180
- Because this is how we sit around in our home even today,
- 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:27.250
- and discuss issues like this that are jur-mane
- 00:14:27.250 --> 00:14:30.290
- for blessed relationships.
- 00:14:30.290 --> 00:14:33.060
- And I asked them about how far can I go?
- 00:14:33.060 --> 00:14:36.180
- What's my boundary in sharing with your relationship
- 00:14:36.180 --> 00:14:41.100
- so forth and so on.
- 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:42.230
- I think this is a great idea to share in this capacity.
- 00:14:42.230 --> 00:14:46.170
- - [DeeDee] I do too.
- 00:14:46.170 --> 00:14:47.160
- You did good.
- 00:14:47.160 --> 00:14:48.260
- - Josh, what about you?
- 00:14:49.160 --> 00:14:50.290
- - Had to cut my mike on.
- 00:14:53.030 --> 00:14:54.160
- I mean yeah, I think the same thing Britney just said.
- 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:58.130
- You know, if it's something I can handle
- 00:14:58.130 --> 00:15:00.110
- or something that we can handle then we get it done.
- 00:15:00.110 --> 00:15:03.090
- But if it's something that keeps going on
- 00:15:03.090 --> 00:15:05.020
- then I need to ask my mama like Mike's.
- 00:15:05.020 --> 00:15:09.240
- - [Pastor] Mama.
- 00:15:10.050 --> 00:15:11.000
- - What' up.
- 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:11.230
- - [Pastor] Mama.
- 00:15:11.230 --> 00:15:12.290
- - What's up you know what I mean?
- 00:15:12.290 --> 00:15:14.130
- - [Pastor] Is she gonna be crazy like this forever?
- 00:15:14.130 --> 00:15:16.010
- (audience laughs)
- 00:15:16.010 --> 00:15:18.030
- - He don't say it. - [Joshua] And alot of times
- 00:15:18.060 --> 00:15:19.140
- - [Joshua] I got to my mama.
- 00:15:19.140 --> 00:15:20.200
- If I ever go to my dad only because
- 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.050
- I know my mom kinda know more stuff about
- 00:15:22.050 --> 00:15:24.080
- females than my dad would so.
- 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.180
- - What?!
- 00:15:26.180 --> 00:15:27.120
- (audience laughs)
- 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:28.240
- That was the most ridiculous thing you could ever--
- 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.260
- - [DeeDee] No it wasn't! - [Josh] That's serious though.
- 00:15:30.260 --> 00:15:32.080
- - [DeeDee] That was good Joshua.
- 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.030
- - Bless the Lord.
- 00:15:36.030 --> 00:15:36.290
- - That was good.
- 00:15:42.250 --> 00:15:44.070
- - And Keisha is a different kind of specimen.
- 00:15:45.010 --> 00:15:48.100
- Keisha--
- 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:50.230
- - [DeeDee] Only child.
- 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.060
- - Only child, but at the same time,
- 00:15:52.060 --> 00:15:55.000
- I have to give Keisha like her room and her space.
- 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:59.090
- You know somebody told Brelyn and them for instance.
- 00:15:59.090 --> 00:16:02.210
- Keep your family out of your business.
- 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.250
- And I'm not quite sure what they were
- 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:10.040
- talking about in it's entirety,
- 00:16:10.040 --> 00:16:13.120
- but a lot of benefit has come from
- 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:18.190
- involving my family in my business.
- 00:16:18.270 --> 00:16:21.270
- Like when Josh was arrested for attempted murder.
- 00:16:23.190 --> 00:16:26.150
- (audience laughs)
- 00:16:28.210 --> 00:16:31.020
- - Why you gotta bring that up again?
- 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.020
- That has nothing to do with it.
- 00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:35.030
- - It sound like I tried to kill somebody.
- 00:16:35.030 --> 00:16:36.170
- I didn't try to kill nobody.
- 00:16:36.170 --> 00:16:38.110
- - [Pastor] That's what you were arrested for.
- 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:39.260
- - I just happened to be in - [Pastor] That's what you
- 00:16:39.260 --> 00:16:41.060
- the car (mumbles). - [Pastor] were arrested for.
- 00:16:41.060 --> 00:16:42.150
- - [Pastor] Attempted murder.
- 00:16:42.150 --> 00:16:43.240
- That's what it sound like to all them.
- 00:16:44.130 --> 00:16:46.080
- (audience laughs)
- 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.140
- (DeeDee laughs and sighs)
- 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:52.270
- - [DeeDee] This is funny.
- 00:16:52.270 --> 00:16:54.100
- - [Pastor] Didn't it sound like he tried to kill somebody?
- 00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:55.080
- - [DeeDee] The way you said it.
- 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:56.050
- - What is attempted murder?
- 00:16:56.050 --> 00:16:57.250
- - [DeeDee] That's the way you said it.
- 00:16:58.030 --> 00:16:59.150
- - I intended to say it that way.
- 00:16:59.150 --> 00:17:01.030
- - I know it.
- 00:17:01.030 --> 00:17:02.080
- - But it was her idea at the time.
- 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:05.190
- It's all good main man.
- 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:07.030
- - Yeah, cause it was my idea to bring it to my family.
- 00:17:07.030 --> 00:17:10.030
- - She called a family meeting.
- 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:11.290
- - I called a family meeting with all of my siblings.
- 00:17:11.290 --> 00:17:14.060
- - I mean, who does that include?
- 00:17:14.060 --> 00:17:15.250
- - I'm gonna tell them.
- 00:17:15.250 --> 00:17:17.080
- With all of my siblings, with all of your siblings,
- 00:17:17.080 --> 00:17:18.220
- I said everybody, I invited everybody over.
- 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:21.220
- - Now shouldn't that be a family matter?
- 00:17:21.220 --> 00:17:24.030
- - Because some of you may try to keep it within this part,
- 00:17:24.030 --> 00:17:27.220
- well I need to take it out you know a little wider
- 00:17:27.220 --> 00:17:31.090
- because you don't know who have your answer.
- 00:17:31.090 --> 00:17:33.180
- - But were you even thinking along that line?
- 00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:35.250
- - No, but I'm thinking this is my family.
- 00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:37.270
- We know how to pray and come together,
- 00:17:37.270 --> 00:17:39.090
- this is what we do.
- 00:17:39.090 --> 00:17:40.200
- - And that's why you would involve your family
- 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.120
- in some of these issues.
- 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:45.090
- in some of these issues.
- 00:17:45.090 --> 00:17:45.100
- We're not just gossiping.
- 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:47.090
- We're not just spreading information.
- 00:17:47.090 --> 00:17:49.190
- We need those who can get with us in faith,
- 00:17:49.190 --> 00:17:53.000
- because one can chase a thousand,
- 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.160
- and two can put 10.000.
- 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:57.220
- So why not, why not your family?
- 00:17:57.290 --> 00:18:00.120
- Who do you think will cover you the most?
- 00:18:00.120 --> 00:18:02.230
- Now that's not all y'alls family.
- 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:04.230
- - Yeah that's not everybody's family.
- 00:18:04.230 --> 00:18:06.160
- Yeah you have to--
- 00:18:06.290 --> 00:18:07.060
- Yeah you have to--
- 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:07.260
- - I said something good?!
- 00:18:08.030 --> 00:18:09.050
- Well would you clap?!
- 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:11.100
- I said something good.
- 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:15.240
- - You always do.
- 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:16.250
- - I said something good.
- 00:18:16.250 --> 00:18:18.020
- - You are so funny.
- 00:18:18.020 --> 00:18:19.240
- They like "Yeah, that's not my family?"
- 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.080
- - Let the record reflect.
- 00:18:21.080 --> 00:18:23.090
- - [DeeDee] You crazy.
- 00:18:24.150 --> 00:18:25.270
- Look, but one thing I really respect
- 00:18:25.270 --> 00:18:28.260
- about Keisha and I like--
- 00:18:28.260 --> 00:18:30.160
- - Don't, I'm glad you brought me back to that.
- 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.010
- But keep that family piece going,
- 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:35.030
- but don't let me forget Keisha.
- 00:18:35.030 --> 00:18:36.280
- - Okay, you wanna say your part first?
- 00:18:36.280 --> 00:18:38.290
- - I so love Keisha.
- 00:18:39.220 --> 00:18:41.040
- - You gonna cry?
- 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:46.110
- - Man.
- 00:18:46.110 --> 00:18:47.040
- - Okay let me go.
- 00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:47.270
- (audience laughs)
- 00:18:47.270 --> 00:18:49.050
- It's like double dutch tonight.
- 00:18:57.100 --> 00:18:58.280
- I don't wanna cry.
- 00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:00.230
- - See because I feel that
- 00:19:00.230 --> 00:19:03.150
- I want to win Keisha.
- 00:19:04.060 --> 00:19:06.150
- I don't really know where I truly stand with Keisha.
- 00:19:07.070 --> 00:19:12.020
- - Okay let me tell you.
- 00:19:12.180 --> 00:19:13.250
- Cause like Keisha is, that's on his part.
- 00:19:13.250 --> 00:19:18.090
- - That's just my part.
- 00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:19.090
- - Yeah that's your part.
- 00:19:19.090 --> 00:19:20.200
- - It's not like she's - [DeeDee] Because it's not.
- 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:21.250
- - [Pastor] reflected anything negative.
- 00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:22.190
- - [DeeDee] No because--
- 00:19:22.190 --> 00:19:23.170
- - I'm not saying that at all.
- 00:19:23.170 --> 00:19:24.120
- - Okay baby, okay.
- 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:25.170
- - I just really want her to know,
- 00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:27.000
- how much she's a part of who we are.
- 00:19:27.070 --> 00:19:31.040
- - [DeeDee] I think you tell her that enough.
- 00:19:32.100 --> 00:19:33.190
- - I tell her all the time.
- 00:19:33.190 --> 00:19:35.120
- - So there, if she doesn't know that then.
- 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:38.060
- - I've shared it privately.
- 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.190
- I mean come on, if we gonna talk like
- 00:19:42.020 --> 00:19:43.150
- we would talk at home in front of all these people.
- 00:19:43.150 --> 00:19:46.290
- - No, I mean that's fine.
- 00:19:47.170 --> 00:19:49.000
- But I wanna go back to the other part about sharing
- 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.030
- and this part with--
- 00:19:52.030 --> 00:19:53.010
- - Okay, but don't forget about
- 00:19:53.010 --> 00:19:54.060
- bringing your family together as well.
- 00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:56.070
- To tell them about that episode.
- 00:19:56.130 --> 00:19:58.140
- - [DeeDee] I finished with that.
- 00:19:59.290 --> 00:20:01.070
- - No, no, no. - [DeeDee] I said we brought.
- 00:20:01.070 --> 00:20:02.280
- There are other points that can be made from that.
- 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:04.110
- - Okay.
- 00:20:04.110 --> 00:20:05.160
- - I just want you to go to Keisha.
- 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:06.220
- - Okay I'm gonna go back here to Keisha.
- 00:20:06.220 --> 00:20:07.280
- (DeeDee laughs)
- 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:09.060
- This is funny.
- 00:20:09.060 --> 00:20:10.110
- But like Josh said, Josh will call me.
- 00:20:10.180 --> 00:20:13.170
- Keisha I've made it very clear with her
- 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:16.290
- that I don't take sides.
- 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:19.250
- I don't take sides at all.
- 00:20:20.030 --> 00:20:22.070
- We'll talk about Josh just like
- 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:25.020
- you know I would talk about anybody.
- 00:20:25.220 --> 00:20:27.220
- If she has something to say, she's very free to discuss
- 00:20:28.010 --> 00:20:31.180
- and to share whatever she wanna say without
- 00:20:31.180 --> 00:20:33.270
- me trying to defend Josh.
- 00:20:33.270 --> 00:20:36.050
- My position is to give her information that can cause
- 00:20:36.050 --> 00:20:39.210
- her to have a blessed relationship.
- 00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:41.230
- That's my only interest.
- 00:20:41.230 --> 00:20:43.110
- I would give her. - [Pastor] But why are you
- 00:20:43.110 --> 00:20:44.190
- - [Pastor] so involved in their relationship?
- 00:20:44.190 --> 00:20:46.220
- - I'm only involved to the extent in which
- 00:20:46.220 --> 00:20:49.010
- they involve me and when they call me.
- 00:20:49.010 --> 00:20:53.030
- It's not like I'm gonna go to them and say
- 00:20:54.010 --> 00:20:56.120
- "Hey, you doing so and so."
- 00:20:56.120 --> 00:20:58.090
- Well I do do that too but--
- 00:20:58.230 --> 00:21:00.070
- - Yeah I was about to say, you do that sometimes.
- 00:21:00.070 --> 00:21:02.130
- - Well I'm glad that line thing done came out.
- 00:21:02.130 --> 00:21:04.210
- - [DeeDee] I don't do that.
- 00:21:05.100 --> 00:21:06.210
- - But yeah, even her - [Pastor] That was a lie
- 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:08.000
- mom too though. - [Pastor] then there boy.
- 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:08.270
- - [Pastor] I saw that demon.
- 00:21:09.170 --> 00:21:10.110
- - You know my parents.
- 00:21:10.110 --> 00:21:11.230
- It's not just my parents - [Pastor] Did you see that
- 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:13.290
- but even her mom. - [Pastor] demon there Josh?
- 00:21:13.290 --> 00:21:15.080
- - Yeah I've seen it.
- 00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:16.150
- - [DeeDee] It's not that bad like that though.
- 00:21:16.150 --> 00:21:17.220
- It's not like I'm on them
- 00:21:17.220 --> 00:21:20.010
- or trying to get involved in certain things.
- 00:21:20.090 --> 00:21:23.100
- I'm more of like a follow up kind of person.
- 00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:25.230
- Like if you come to me and bring me something,
- 00:21:25.230 --> 00:21:28.070
- now I'm gonna come to make sure you
- 00:21:28.070 --> 00:21:30.050
- carry out the part.
- 00:21:30.050 --> 00:21:31.280
- You know the information
- 00:21:32.050 --> 00:21:33.090
- or the instructions that I gave you.
- 00:21:33.090 --> 00:21:35.000
- Because if you not gonna carry it out,
- 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.000
- I don't care if it's my child or even one of you all.
- 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.250
- I'm not gonna keep talking to you.
- 00:21:39.250 --> 00:21:41.130
- - But dig this.
- 00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:42.210
- Look how we're involved in their relationships.
- 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:45.020
- - What do you wanna say?
- 00:21:50.050 --> 00:21:51.120
- - No, I just said look how we're involved.
- 00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:53.080
- - [DeeDee] How are we involved?
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- - We're involved like we're involved.
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- (audience laughs)
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- It's apparent, it's obvious.
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- We have something to do
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- with every last one of their relationship.
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- But, the understanding is in most households,
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- "Your mother and father are to involved in our relationship.
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- "I want them to keep out of our relationship."
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- And the word family from it's original Greek tense
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- was the word that we have now in our vocabulary, connection.
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- So when I married her,
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- I didn't just marry her as some suppose.
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- "I didn't marry your mother, I married you!
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- "I didn't marry your whole family, I married you."
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- Well the word and the concept that was
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- in the mind of God was that families came together.
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- The Bird family and the Whims family.
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- And then when the Whims and the Birds got together
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- they became the WhimsBird family.
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- And those couldn't eat, the Bird family fed em.
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- And those who couldn't protect themself
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- the Whims family fed em.
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- And so when they came together they were stronger.
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- We don't use it to the benefit that it's
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- been designed to use it.
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- And that's all I'm trying to convey here.
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- You can be stronger together with the different entities
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- of your family that you are blocking out.
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- Just for your consideration.
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- Because there are some family members that you have
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- that know a little more about an area
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- that you are going through
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- and they are willing to share that information.
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- But no, you wanna be private and isolated and insulated
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- and not share that information.
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- We put that information out, I promise you,
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- the way we got to Josh emancipation (laughs)
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- when he was arrested for attempted murder
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- was we shared with our entire family.
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- And one of the family members said "Well I know a good
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- "attorney that's at Howard University."
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- Well the attorney at Howard University knew a--
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- - [DeeDee] Everybody knew somebody.
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- - Woo, everybody knew somebody.
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- And when we got to the person that we finally need
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- that person had the power to drop the charges.
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- Whatever.
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- And so if we would've
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- kept it to ourselves.
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- Like she went public with my attack.
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- She was supposed to keep it quiet.
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- I went into the hospital and I threatened
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- the first girl that I walked in to.
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- That girl Keisha, I'll never forget Keisha.
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- She's a member of the church.
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- And I walked in and she took my meter and Keisha said
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- "Pastor!"
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- I said "Keisha, I can barely breathe, Keisha.
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- "Don't you tell a single soul that I'm in here.
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- "Oh Pastor I won't tell anything.
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- "It's against the HIPAA, the NAPA, the PIPA."
- 00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:45.110
- - HIPAA, HIPAA law.
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- - What is it?
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- - HIPAA.
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- - Okay, well you know, as long as you know
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- you know what I'm saying.
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- "It's against some law for me to tell somebody."
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- And I wanted to just keep it under the radar.
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- I didn't want anybody to know.
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- This one right here went public with the thing.
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- Internet, Facebook, Instagram, I'm like,
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- "Are you serious?!"
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- I was asleep, I didn't have any rebuttal.
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- (audience laughs)
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- Make marriage easy.
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- Lower third.
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- They ran in the lower third "We need the Body of Christ
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- "praying for Dr. Mike Freeman."
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- People all over the world was praying for me
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- because we went public with it.
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- We could've kept within our family,
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- but we took it to our bigger family.
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- The Body of Christ.
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- Now some of the family members
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- in the body of Christ wanted me dead.
- 00:25:48.120 --> 00:25:51.070
- But thank God for the ones who wanted me to live.
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- - I am so elated and excited.
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- Man, we're on the road again.
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- On the road again, just can't wait
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- to get on the road again.
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- DeeDee and I are taking Marriage Made EZ
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- back on the road, how about that.
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- And we want to come to
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- your ministry.
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- You have to call a pastor,
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- or have your pastor to call,
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- let us know that your facility
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- is available for us to come in.
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- We're not asking you for a dime
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- we just want to use your place
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- well, actually, His place
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- that you have been assigned over,
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- so that we can come and enrich marriages.
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- I just ran into a young lady the other night, and she said,
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- "Pastor Freeman, you, with all due respect,
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- you are a fool,
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- you and that Dr. DeeDee."
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- She called me a fool, can you imagine that?
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- But then she concluded by saying,
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- "My marriage is
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- so much better
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- because of your transparency,
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- your candor, and your humor."
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- I don't know where this humor has come from, I really don't.
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- It's not even something I want.
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- I recall Jesse Duplantis saying the same thing,
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- that God had just made it a part of my ministry.
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- And we have a good time, we have an exciting time,
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- and I'm just that enriched, I'm just that fulfilled.
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- And I want some of this to get on you and your area.
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- So, contact my office, we're ready to get back on the road.
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- You know the Devil has shot us a blow
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- and literally try
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- to destroy
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- and even kill the Ministry of Mike and DeeDee Freeman,
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- but we're up again, we're strong,
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- we're fired up, we're ready to go,
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- and all we need to know is that you want us
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- to come to your area.
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- We've been to L.A., we've been to Chicago,
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- we've been to Atlanta, we've been to New York,
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- we've been to Detroit, we're ready to go.
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- North Carolina, we've been to the Bahamas,
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- we're ready to fire up that jet and come wherever
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- we got to come to be a part
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- of transforming the marriages in your area.
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- Call us, we're waiting for you.
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