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September 23, 2019
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  • NEXT! AFTER THE SUDDEN DEATH OF HER BROTHER,
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  • DANIELLE STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ADDICTION
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  • AS A TEENAGER.
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  • - WE HAD ALREADY LOST ONE CHILD
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  • IN A TRAGIC CAR ACCIDENT
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  • AND NOW DANIELLE WAS RUNNING THIS RISK WITH HER BEHAVIOR
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  • AND IT WAS DEVASTATING.
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  • - I DID NOT FEEL ANY OF THE PAIN
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  • THAT I WAS FEELING.
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  • SO IT WAS THIS MAGICAL BULLET.
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  • A FAMILY'S JOURNEY
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  • THROUGH ADDICTION AND RECOVERY -- NEXT!
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  • Sheila: WELCOME TO LIFE TODAY .
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  • I'M SHEILA WALSH AND
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  • I'M HERE WITH RANDY ROBISON.
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  • WE'RE HERE WITH
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  • YOU'LL FIND VERY RELEVANT
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  • TO WHAT YOU MIGHT BE GOING
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  • THROUGH IN YOUR OWN LIFE.
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  • YOU PROBABLY KNOW
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  • THAT WE HAVE
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  • A NATIONAL CRISIS
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  • OF ADDICTION
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  • AND OF PEOPLE'S LIVES
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  • BEING COMPLETELY
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  • OUT OF CONTROL.
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  • BUT I WONDER
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  • WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE
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  • IF YOU WERE A PASTOR
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  • WHO HAD TO GET UP
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  • IN THE PULPIT ON A SUNDAY
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  • AND PREACH
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  • KNOWING THAT YOUR DAUGHTER
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  • IS ALSO ADDICTED TO DRUGS?
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  • WHAT CAN GOD DO?
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  • WELL, I THINK
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  • YOU'RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT.
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  • WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME
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  • OUR GUESTS, ROB AND DANIELLE?
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  • I WANT TO GET
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  • YOUR NEW FIRST NAME,
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  • COKE GERMAIN.
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  • SHE JUST GOT MARRIED.
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  • WELCOME!
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  • Randy: SO GOOD
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  • TO HAVE YOU GUYS.
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  • WE'RE GOING TO TRY
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  • TO GET A LOT OF STORY INTO
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  • A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME
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  • SO I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS
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  • JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
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  • GIVE US A LITTLE BIT
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  • OF YOUR STORY
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  • AND YOUR VIEWPOINT
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  • AND JUST RUN WITH IT.
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  • Sheila: AND WHY DID YOU WRITE
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  • THIS BOOK?
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  • THE BOOK IS OUR STORY.
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  • THE STORY OF DANIELLE
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  • FINDING HERSELF IN A VERY
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  • SOME ADDICTIONS THAT WERE
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  • CONTROLLING HER WORLD.
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  • WE, AS PASTORS OF A CHURCH
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  • IN OUR COMMUNITY,
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  • LEARNING TO DEAL WITH IT
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  • AND STRUGGLE
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  • THROUGH THE PROCESS
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  • AND TRYING TO FIND A PLACE
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  • OF HEALING AND RESTORATION
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  • FOR OUR GREATEST GIFT IN LIFE.
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  • SO I STILL REMEMBER
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  • WITH MY WIFE LAURA AND MYSELF,
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  • WE WERE OPENING UP THE MAIL
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  • IN OUR KITCHEN
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  • AND WHEN WE GOT
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  • DANIELLE'S BANK STATEMENT.
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  • AND WE SAW
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  • ON HER BANK STATEMENT
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  • ALL OF THESE CHARGES
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  • TO ALCOHOLIC ESTABLISHMENTS
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  • AND WE WERE JUST SHOCKED.
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  • AS SHOCKED
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  • AS YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE.
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  • Sheila: WASN'T SHE A STUDENT
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  • AT THIS POINT
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  • AT ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY?
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  • Rob: YEAH, SHE WAS A STUDENT
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  • AT ORAL ROBERTS UNIVERSITY,
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  • WHICH IS A CHRISTIAN
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  • UNIVERSITY IN OUR COUNTRY.
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  • SO WE IMMEDIATELY
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  • CALLED HER ON THE PHONE
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  • AND ASKED HER WHAT
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  • THIS WAS REALLY ALL ABOUT.
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  • WE COULD TELL
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  • FROM THE TONE OF HER VOICE,
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  • JUST THE WAY
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  • SHE WAS COMMUNICATING
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  • THAT SHE WAS IN PRETTY
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  • SIGNIFICANT TROUBLE.
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  • Danielle: SO A KEY PART
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  • OF THAT STORY
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  • IS WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD
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  • I LOST MY BROTHER, THEIR SON,
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  • IN A CAR ACCIDENT.
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  • WE WERE SUPER CLOSE.
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  • WHEN I WAS 14 I DIDN'T HAVE
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  • THE EMOTIONAL CAPACITY
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  • TO HANDLE THAT GRAVITUDE
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  • OF A LOSS.
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  • SO I REMEMBER
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  • THAT INTENSE FEELING
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  • OF NEEDING TO ESCAPE
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  • THE WAY THAT I FELT.
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  • I DIDN'T WANT
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  • TO FEEL THAT WAY ANYMORE.
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  • I DIDN'T KNOW
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  • HOW TO HANDLE THAT
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  • OR HOW I WAS GOING
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  • TO GET OUT OF MY EMOTIONS
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  • BUT I KNEW I NEEDED TO.
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  • AND SO I,
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  • PRETTY MUCH FIRST THING,
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  • BOYS, ATTENTION FROM BOYS.
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  • I WAS 14,
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  • DIDN'T QUITE HAVE THE ACCESS
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  • THAT I WOULD HAVE
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  • WHEN I WOULD GET OLDER.
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  • AND SO WHEN I WENT
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  • TO HIGH SCHOOL
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  • I STARTED EXPERIMENTING
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  • WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL
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  • AND I KNEW THAT
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  • IT MADE ME FEEL DIFFERENT,
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  • THAT IT MADE ME FEEL GOOD.
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  • I FELT LIKE MY PERSONALITY
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  • CAME ALIVE.
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  • I WAS ELECTRIC.
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  • I DID NOT FEEL ANY OF THE PAIN
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  • THAT I WAS FEELING.
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  • SO IT WAS THIS MAGICAL BULLET.
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  • THEN WHEN I GOT TO COLLEGE,
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  • I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE
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  • THE LIMITATIONS OF PARENTS.
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  • MY ADDICTION WENT WILD.
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  • BUT I WENT THERE
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  • WITH THE DREAM
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  • OF WALKING IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS.
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  • THEY ALSO WENT TO O.R.U.
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  • I REALLY WANTED TO RESTORE
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  • MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD,
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  • HAVE THE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE.
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  • Sheila: WHEN DID YOU KNOW
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  • THAT DANIELLE
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  • WAS REALLY IN TROUBLE?
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  • Rob: I THINK HONESTLY,
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  • WE HAD NO IDEA.
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  • I WISH WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
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  • A LITTLE BIT CLUED IN.
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  • MAYBE OUR OWN GRIEF JOURNEY
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  • CLOUDED OUR PERSPECTIVE
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  • A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS
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  • OF UNDERSTANDING
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  • WHAT THE NEEDS
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  • IN OUR CHILDREN WERE.
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  • BUT WHEN WE GOT THAT BILL,
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  • IT WAS THE FIRST IDEA
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  • THAT WE HAD THAT DANIELLE
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  • WAS EVEN EXPERIMENTING
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  • WITH THINGS.
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  • WE DIDN'T KNOW EVEN
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  • AT THAT STAGE IN THE JOURNEY
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  • HOW SIGNIFICANT IT WAS.
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  • BUT WHEN SHE SAID, "DAD,
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  • I NEED TO COME HOME,"
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  • THEN WE KNEW
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  • THAT IT WAS MORE THAN JUST
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  • COLLEGE EXPERIMENTATION;
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  • THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING
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  • REALLY SIGNIFICANT GOING ON.
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  • Randy: CAN I ASK YOU
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  • SOMETHING?
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  • YOU BOTH MENTIONED YOUR SON,
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  • YOUR BROTHER, CALEB.
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  • THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A VERY,
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  • VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION
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  • LOSING HIM THAT SUDDENLY,
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  • THAT QUICKLY.
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  • TELL ME
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  • A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM
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  • SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND
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  • WHY IT WAS SO HARD.
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  • Rob: ANY PARENT
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  • THAT LOSES A CHILD,
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  • IT'S A DEVASTATING EXPERIENCE.
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  • TO DESCRIBE
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  • THE EXCRUCIATING PAIN
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  • OF THAT EXPERIENCE.
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  • YOU KNOW OR EVEN AS ADULTS
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  • YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
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  • TO BURY YOUR PARENTS,
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  • YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED
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  • TO BURY YOUR KIDS.
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  • CALEB WAS
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  • A UNIQUE PERSONALITY.
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  • HE WAS THE CAPTAIN
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  • OF HIS BASKETBALL TEAM;
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  • HE TOOK HIS BASKETBALL TEAM
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  • TO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.
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  • HE WAS AN ALL AMERICAN KID.
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  • HE WAS EXTREMELY
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  • GOOD-LOOKING, VERY POPULAR,
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  • AND HE JUST DOTED
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  • ON HIS LITTLE SISTER.
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  • AND IT WAS JUST
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  • A MAGICAL RELATIONSHIP
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  • AS PARENTS TO SEE
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  • AND SO YEAH.
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  • Danielle: MOST BROTHERS
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  • DON'T LIKE HANGING OUT
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  • WITH THEIR LITTLE SISTERS
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  • BUT HE DID.
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  • LIKE MY FRIENDS
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  • WERE HIS FRIENDS,
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  • HIS FRIENDS WERE MY FRIENDS.
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  • IT WAS ALWAYS JUST...
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  • YEAH, HE WAS MY PROTECTOR.
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  • THERE'S A REALLY
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  • POIGNANT SCENE IN THE BOOK
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  • WHERE YOU DESCRIBE
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  • YOU COMING HOME FROM A PARTY
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  • AND YOU'RE DRUNK
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  • INTO SOMETHING.
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  • AT WHAT POINT DID YOU REALIZE
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  • THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME ROAD
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  • Danielle: WELL,
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  • MANY HOURS AFTER I WOKE UP,
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  • AND I HAD A CONVERSATION
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  • WITH MY DAD
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  • AND HE HAD MENTIONED
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  • SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
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  • OF COURSE,
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  • I WAS LYING AT THAT POINT,
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  • TEXTING AND DRIVING
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  • WAS THE STORY.
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  • BUT THERE WAS
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  • THIS REALIZATION WHEN
  • 00:07:09.070 --> 00:07:10.190
  • I WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING AGAIN
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  • DOWN THAT ROAD
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  • AND I SAW THE TREE
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  • WHERE CALEB HAD --
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  • THE TREE THAT CALEB HAD HIT.
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  • I JUST SANK.
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  • YEAH.
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  • Rob: I THINK THAT WAS PART
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  • OF THE EMOTION TOO,
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  • EVEN AS A PARENT,
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  • THAT WE HAD ALREADY
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  • LOST ONE CHILD
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  • IN A TRAGIC CAR ACCIDENT
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  • AND NOW DANIELLE
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  • WAS RUNNING THIS RISK
  • 00:07:33.050 --> 00:07:34.140
  • WITH HER BEHAVIOR
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  • AND IT WAS DEVASTATING.
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  • THE EMOTIONS OF THAT
  • 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:38.130
  • WERE JUST BEYOND ANYTHING
  • 00:07:38.130 --> 00:07:39.220
  • WE COULD EVER PROCESS.
  • 00:07:39.220 --> 00:07:42.200
  • BUT WHEN SHE WAS AT SCHOOL,
  • 00:07:42.200 --> 00:07:44.000
  • WE HEARD THAT IN HER VOICE,
  • 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.250
  • THINGS BECAME
  • 00:07:46.250 --> 00:07:47.290
  • VERY, VERY AWARE
  • 00:07:47.290 --> 00:07:49.160
  • FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE
  • 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:50.230
  • THAT SHE WAS IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:07:50.230 --> 00:07:51.290
  • WE BROUGHT HER HOME.
  • 00:07:51.290 --> 00:07:53.080
  • AND WE CONNECTED
  • 00:07:53.080 --> 00:07:54.180
  • WITH A FAMILY COUNSELOR
  • 00:07:54.180 --> 00:07:56.030
  • WHO REALLY RECOMMENDED
  • 00:07:56.030 --> 00:07:57.200
  • FOR DANIELLE TO GO
  • 00:07:57.200 --> 00:07:59.280
  • TO 90 MEETINGS IN 90 DAYS;
  • 00:07:59.280 --> 00:08:02.010
  • THAT WAS THE MANTRA.
  • 00:08:02.010 --> 00:08:03.290
  • WE KNEW HOW SERIOUS
  • 00:08:05.130 --> 00:08:06.260
  • HER ISSUES WERE.
  • 00:08:06.260 --> 00:08:08.030
  • WE KNEW SHE WAS IN TROUBLE
  • 00:08:08.030 --> 00:08:09.120
  • BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW AGAIN
  • 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.180
  • WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING
  • 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:11.250
  • OR SOMETHING
  • 00:08:13.020 --> 00:08:14.110
  • THAT SHE COULD MANAGE
  • 00:08:14.110 --> 00:08:15.190
  • WITH CONCENTRATED EFFORT.
  • 00:08:15.190 --> 00:08:16.270
  • Sheila: WHAT WERE YOU USING,
  • 00:08:16.270 --> 00:08:18.050
  • DANIELLE?
  • 00:08:18.050 --> 00:08:19.110
  • Danielle: I WAS USING ADDERALL
  • 00:08:19.110 --> 00:08:20.170
  • TO WAKE UP, STUDY, PARTY DRUG,
  • 00:08:20.170 --> 00:08:22.280
  • THE COLLEGE FAMOUS DRUG,
  • 00:08:22.280 --> 00:08:24.200
  • AND THEN I WOULD SMOKE WEED
  • 00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:26.180
  • TO GO TO SLEEP AND DRINK,
  • 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:29.060
  • PARTYING.
  • 00:08:29.060 --> 00:08:31.100
  • Rob: AND YOU WERE INVOLVED
  • 00:08:31.100 --> 00:08:33.080
  • IN THOSE 90 DAYS PROGRAM
  • 00:08:34.050 --> 00:08:37.050
  • AND THERE WAS
  • 00:08:37.050 --> 00:08:38.190
  • SOME MINOR RELAPSES
  • 00:08:38.190 --> 00:08:40.010
  • DURING THAT TIME
  • 00:08:40.010 --> 00:08:41.120
  • BUT AFTER THE COURSE
  • 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:42.220
  • OF THE SUMMER UNFOLDED
  • 00:08:42.220 --> 00:08:44.020
  • WE FELT LIKE
  • 00:08:44.020 --> 00:08:46.260
  • SHE HAD BEEN SOBER
  • 00:08:46.260 --> 00:08:48.050
  • FOR A PERIOD OF TIME
  • 00:08:48.050 --> 00:08:49.110
  • AND WE THOUGHT OKAY,
  • 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:50.290
  • MAYBE SHE'S GOTTEN THIS THING
  • 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:52.160
  • UNDERNEATH HER BELT.
  • 00:08:52.160 --> 00:08:54.010
  • AND SO WE SENT HER BACK
  • 00:08:54.010 --> 00:08:55.200
  • TO SCHOOL A SECOND TIME,
  • 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:59.080
  • BACK TO O.R.U.
  • 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:00.250
  • WITH A MUCH DIFFERENT SET
  • 00:09:00.250 --> 00:09:03.020
  • OF CIRCUMSTANCES:
  • 00:09:03.020 --> 00:09:04.080
  • NO CAR, NO EXTRA MONEY.
  • 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.000
  • EVERYTHING CHANGED.
  • 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.190
  • AND WE THOUGHT,
  • 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:10.020
  • SINCE HER FORMER YOUTH PASTOR
  • 00:09:10.020 --> 00:09:11.110
  • WAS THERE THAT SHE HAD
  • 00:09:11.110 --> 00:09:12.210
  • THE SUPPORT SYSTEM
  • 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:14.100
  • THAT SHE NEEDED
  • 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:15.170
  • AND THAT SHE WAS GOING TO DO
  • 00:09:15.170 --> 00:09:16.230
  • REALLY WELL.
  • 00:09:16.230 --> 00:09:17.250
  • Randy: AND WELL, IT IS O.R.U,
  • 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:19.030
  • I GRADUATED THERE TOO.
  • 00:09:19.030 --> 00:09:20.090
  • THE SOCIETAL PRESSURE
  • 00:09:20.090 --> 00:09:21.130
  • IS TO NOT DO THOSE THINGS.
  • 00:09:21.130 --> 00:09:22.180
  • Danielle: YOU SIGN
  • 00:09:22.180 --> 00:09:23.270
  • AN HONOR CODE
  • 00:09:23.270 --> 00:09:25.010
  • TO NOT DO THOSE THINGS.
  • 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:26.090
  • Randy: YEAH, I WAS SUPPOSED
  • 00:09:26.090 --> 00:09:27.130
  • TO SIGN THAT TOO BUT GO AHEAD.
  • 00:09:27.130 --> 00:09:28.200
  • Sheila: SO WHEN YOU
  • 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.010
  • LANDED BACK AT O.R.U.
  • 00:09:30.010 --> 00:09:31.050
  • HOW LONG DID IT TAKE
  • 00:09:31.050 --> 00:09:32.130
  • BEFORE YOU FELL
  • 00:09:32.130 --> 00:09:33.220
  • RIGHT BACK OFF THE WAGON?
  • 00:09:33.220 --> 00:09:34.290
  • Danielle: SO WHEN I WENT BACK
  • 00:09:34.290 --> 00:09:36.080
  • TO O.R.U. I WAS DEDICATED.
  • 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.130
  • LIKE I WAS CONVINCED
  • 00:09:37.130 --> 00:09:38.180
  • I HAD A PROBLEM.
  • 00:09:38.180 --> 00:09:39.230
  • I WAS EXCITED
  • 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:40.260
  • TO START OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:09:40.260 --> 00:09:41.270
  • I FELT LIKE I WAS BACK
  • 00:09:41.270 --> 00:09:43.040
  • ON TRACK WITH MY LIFE.
  • 00:09:43.040 --> 00:09:44.100
  • I HAD ONE CONVERSATION,
  • 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:45.140
  • THE FIRST DAY I GOT BACK.
  • 00:09:45.140 --> 00:09:46.190
  • MY FRIEND TOOK ME TO COFFEE
  • 00:09:46.190 --> 00:09:47.240
  • AND SHE KNEW
  • 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:48.260
  • I WAS IN RECOVERY
  • 00:09:48.260 --> 00:09:50.060
  • AND SHE HAD JUST MENTIONED
  • 00:09:50.060 --> 00:09:51.150
  • ONE SMALL THING.
  • 00:09:51.150 --> 00:09:53.060
  • ALL SHE SAID WAS, "IT'S GOING
  • 00:09:53.060 --> 00:09:54.260
  • TO SUCK THAT WE CAN'T
  • 00:09:54.260 --> 00:09:56.050
  • DRINK TOGETHER THIS YEAR."
  • 00:09:56.050 --> 00:09:57.160
  • SHE'S LIKE,
  • 00:09:57.160 --> 00:09:58.220
  • "I'M HAPPY FOR YOU BUT IT
  • 00:09:58.220 --> 00:09:59.270
  • IS GOING TO KIND OF SUCK."
  • 00:09:59.270 --> 00:10:01.060
  • AND I WAS LIKE, "WELL,
  • 00:10:01.060 --> 00:10:04.000
  • MAYBE ONE DRINK WON'T HURT."
  • 00:10:04.140 --> 00:10:07.140
  • AND THE INSANITY OF ADDICTION
  • 00:10:07.140 --> 00:10:09.110
  • IS THAT IN ONE MOMENT
  • 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:10.190
  • GUNG HO RECOVERY TO
  • 00:10:12.180 --> 00:10:15.180
  • DONE.
  • 00:10:15.180 --> 00:10:17.050
  • AND YEAH,
  • 00:10:19.210 --> 00:10:21.000
  • THAT LED ME RIGHT BACK
  • 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:22.190
  • INTO MY ADDICTION.
  • 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:24.100
  • Rob: SO A COUPLE
  • 00:10:24.100 --> 00:10:25.190
  • OF MONTHS WENT BY
  • 00:10:25.190 --> 00:10:27.000
  • AND WE WERE ON THE PHONE
  • 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.110
  • THIS WHOLE TIME AND HER LIFE
  • 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.040
  • IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL.
  • 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:32.220
  • BUT PART OF THE CHALLENGE
  • 00:10:32.220 --> 00:10:34.120
  • SOMETIMES WITH
  • 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:35.250
  • SHE WAS A MASTER MANIPULATOR.
  • 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.010
  • SHE WAS A FANTASTIC LIAR.
  • 00:10:39.010 --> 00:10:41.110
  • AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD
  • 00:10:41.110 --> 00:10:42.210
  • A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:10:42.210 --> 00:10:43.260
  • AND SHE KIND OF PLAYED OFF
  • 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:45.050
  • OF THAT AND KNEW EXACTLY
  • 00:10:45.050 --> 00:10:46.190
  • WHAT BUTTONS TO PUSH
  • 00:10:46.190 --> 00:10:48.040
  • AND WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR.
  • 00:10:48.040 --> 00:10:49.150
  • BUT I COULD TELL
  • 00:10:49.150 --> 00:10:50.240
  • IN A PHONE CONVERSATION
  • 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.020
  • THAT WE HAD RIGHT BEFORE
  • 00:10:52.020 --> 00:10:53.120
  • I WAS GOING ON
  • 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:54.220
  • A MISSIONS TRIP TO UGANDA,
  • 00:10:54.220 --> 00:10:55.290
  • MY WIFE WAS RIGHT
  • 00:10:55.290 --> 00:10:57.040
  • IN THE MIDDLE
  • 00:10:57.040 --> 00:10:58.090
  • OF A WOMEN'S CONFERENCE
  • 00:10:58.090 --> 00:10:59.160
  • AT OUR CHURCH,
  • 00:10:59.160 --> 00:11:00.250
  • I COULD JUST TELL THAT MAYBE
  • 00:11:00.250 --> 00:11:02.000
  • EVERYTHING WASN'T RIGHT.
  • 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.050
  • I WASN'T SURE
  • 00:11:03.050 --> 00:11:04.090
  • BUT WHEN I GOT TO UGANDA
  • 00:11:04.090 --> 00:11:05.150
  • I WROTE HER AN EMAIL
  • 00:11:05.150 --> 00:11:06.190
  • AND I SAID, "DANIELLE,
  • 00:11:06.190 --> 00:11:07.250
  • WE JUST HAD THIS INCREDIBLE
  • 00:11:07.250 --> 00:11:08.290
  • CONVERSATION ON THE PHONE
  • 00:11:08.290 --> 00:11:10.050
  • AND YOU SHARED YOUR HEART
  • 00:11:10.050 --> 00:11:11.120
  • WITH US.
  • 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:12.170
  • I JUST AM NOT SURE
  • 00:11:12.170 --> 00:11:13.240
  • WHETHER YOU WERE TELLING US
  • 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.020
  • THE TRUTH.
  • 00:11:15.020 --> 00:11:16.070
  • I'M NOT EVEN SURE
  • 00:11:16.070 --> 00:11:17.160
  • I HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISCERN
  • 00:11:17.160 --> 00:11:18.280
  • WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING OR NOT.
  • 00:11:18.280 --> 00:11:20.250
  • BUT HEAR ME OUT HERE
  • 00:11:20.250 --> 00:11:22.070
  • FOR A SECOND.
  • 00:11:22.070 --> 00:11:23.160
  • I LOVE YOU MORE
  • 00:11:23.160 --> 00:11:24.220
  • THAN I COULD EVER SAY
  • 00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:25.260
  • WITH WORDS.
  • 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:27.020
  • IF I'M WRONG,
  • 00:11:27.020 --> 00:11:28.110
  • PLEASE JUST WRITE IT OFF
  • 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:30.140
  • AS SOMETHING
  • 00:11:30.140 --> 00:11:31.270
  • THAT A CONCERNED FATHER
  • 00:11:31.270 --> 00:11:33.030
  • IS JUST WANTING TO EXPLORE.
  • 00:11:33.030 --> 00:11:34.100
  • BUT IF I'M RIGHT, JUST KNOW
  • 00:11:34.100 --> 00:11:35.210
  • THERE IS NO JUDGMENT,
  • 00:11:35.210 --> 00:11:37.050
  • THERE IS NOTHING
  • 00:11:37.050 --> 00:11:38.230
  • THAT I'M GOING TO SAY
  • 00:11:38.230 --> 00:11:40.090
  • EXCEPT WE WANT TO GET YOU
  • 00:11:40.090 --> 00:11:41.150
  • THE HELP THAT YOU NEED
  • 00:11:41.150 --> 00:11:42.170
  • AND DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER
  • 00:11:42.170 --> 00:11:43.280
  • FOR YOU TO BECOME THE PERSON
  • 00:11:43.280 --> 00:11:45.060
  • THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO BE."
  • 00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:47.030
  • Danielle: AND AT THIS POINT
  • 00:11:47.030 --> 00:11:48.060
  • I WAS NOT EVEN
  • 00:11:48.060 --> 00:11:49.150
  • HAVING FUN ANYMORE.
  • 00:11:49.150 --> 00:11:50.190
  • I WAS JUST DRINKING
  • 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:51.250
  • IN MY ROOM,
  • 00:11:51.250 --> 00:11:52.290
  • NOT GOING TO SCHOOL.
  • 00:11:52.290 --> 00:11:53.290
  • SO I WAS JUST EXISTING --
  • 00:11:53.290 --> 00:11:56.240
  • NOT EVEN LIVING.
  • 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.060
  • SO WHEN HE SENT ME THAT LETTER
  • 00:11:58.060 --> 00:11:59.130
  • IT WAS MY SAVING GRACE.
  • 00:11:59.130 --> 00:12:01.210
  • AND I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:12:01.210 --> 00:12:03.000
  • "TRUST YOUR GUT ON THIS ONE."
  • 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:04.240
  • Sheila: SO YOU END UP
  • 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.010
  • IN A REHAB, YEAH?
  • 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:07.110
  • Rob: YEAH. SO AT THAT POINT,
  • 00:12:07.110 --> 00:12:08.210
  • NO MORE 90 DAYS.
  • 00:12:08.210 --> 00:12:09.280
  • THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
  • 00:12:09.280 --> 00:12:10.290
  • SHE CAME HOME
  • 00:12:10.290 --> 00:12:12.000
  • AND SHE WENT STRAIGHT
  • 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:13.010
  • INTO REHAB.
  • 00:12:13.010 --> 00:12:14.020
  • Sheila: WHAT WAS THAT LIKE
  • 00:12:14.020 --> 00:12:15.090
  • FOR YOU?
  • 00:12:15.090 --> 00:12:16.100
  • Danielle: WELL, WHEN YOU
  • 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:17.110
  • HAVE NUMBED YOUR EMOTIONS
  • 00:12:17.110 --> 00:12:18.200
  • FROM 14 TO 20,
  • 00:12:19.020 --> 00:12:22.020
  • YOU EXPERIENCE
  • 00:12:22.020 --> 00:12:23.130
  • ALL YOUR EMOTIONS
  • 00:12:23.130 --> 00:12:24.170
  • ALL AT ONCE.
  • 00:12:24.170 --> 00:12:25.210
  • BUT I KNEW
  • 00:12:25.210 --> 00:12:26.270
  • THAT I HAD TO EXPERIENCE THEM
  • 00:12:26.270 --> 00:12:28.270
  • IF I WAS GOING TO BE SERIOUS
  • 00:12:28.270 --> 00:12:31.030
  • ABOUT RECOVERY,
  • 00:12:31.030 --> 00:12:32.090
  • IF I HAD ANY CHANCE
  • 00:12:32.090 --> 00:12:33.170
  • AT SOBRIETY,
  • 00:12:33.170 --> 00:12:34.250
  • AND LONG-TERM RECOVERY.
  • 00:12:34.250 --> 00:12:36.040
  • SO I WALKED THAT OUT.
  • 00:12:36.130 --> 00:12:39.130
  • I WALKED OUT EVERY EMOTION,
  • 00:12:39.130 --> 00:12:40.250
  • EVERY REJECTION FROM A BOY,
  • 00:12:40.250 --> 00:12:42.210
  • EVERY PART OF THE PAIN
  • 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:45.230
  • THAT WE EXPERIENCED
  • 00:12:45.230 --> 00:12:47.040
  • WITH CALEB.
  • 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:48.080
  • AND IT SUCKED.
  • 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.060
  • Randy: YOU'RE SAYING
  • 00:12:50.060 --> 00:12:51.100
  • IT WASN'T THAT FUN
  • 00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:52.180
  • AT THE TIME
  • 00:12:52.180 --> 00:12:53.230
  • BUT WHAT DID IT DO TO YOU?
  • 00:12:53.230 --> 00:12:55.190
  • Danielle: WORTH IT.
  • 00:12:55.190 --> 00:12:57.200
  • Rob: AND ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:58.260
  • THAT I THINK WE BOTH
  • 00:12:58.260 --> 00:13:00.020
  • WERE ABLE TO WRAP
  • 00:13:00.020 --> 00:13:01.040
  • OUR UNDERSTANDING AROUND,
  • 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:02.050
  • WHICH I HAD NEVER REALLY
  • 00:13:02.050 --> 00:13:03.060
  • CONSIDERED THIS CONCEPT.
  • 00:13:03.060 --> 00:13:04.100
  • WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT DRUGS
  • 00:13:04.100 --> 00:13:05.110
  • AND YOU THINK ABOUT ADDICTION
  • 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:06.140
  • YOU ALWAYS THINK ABOUT IT,
  • 00:13:06.140 --> 00:13:07.210
  • WELL, IT IS A CHOICE.
  • 00:13:07.210 --> 00:13:08.230
  • YOU CAN DO IT
  • 00:13:08.230 --> 00:13:09.240
  • OR YOU CAN'T DO IT
  • 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:10.270
  • OR WHATEVER.
  • 00:13:10.270 --> 00:13:11.290
  • AND THE WHOLE IDEA OF
  • 00:13:11.290 --> 00:13:13.020
  • IS ADDICTION A DISEASE
  • 00:13:13.020 --> 00:13:14.040
  • OR IS IT A CHOICE,
  • 00:13:14.040 --> 00:13:16.020
  • KIND OF CAME INTO
  • 00:13:16.020 --> 00:13:17.090
  • THE FOREFRONT OF OUR THINKING,
  • 00:13:17.090 --> 00:13:18.130
  • AND SOME THOUGHTS
  • 00:13:18.130 --> 00:13:19.180
  • THAT I'D NEVER HAD BEFORE.
  • 00:13:19.180 --> 00:13:20.250
  • AND PART OF IT
  • 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:22.170
  • WAS A RECOGNITION,
  • 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:25.030
  • I GUESS, BECAUSE DANIELLE
  • 00:13:25.030 --> 00:13:27.210
  • WAS TALKING IN TERMS OF,
  • 00:13:27.210 --> 00:13:29.040
  • "THIS IS A DISEASE."
  • 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.080
  • THAT WAS BEING COMMUNICATED
  • 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.190
  • QUITE FORCEFULLY
  • 00:13:34.190 --> 00:13:36.050
  • WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT
  • 00:13:36.050 --> 00:13:37.120
  • AND I LOVED THE WORDING
  • 00:13:38.210 --> 00:13:39.280
  • THAT THEY USED.
  • 00:13:39.280 --> 00:13:42.130
  • WHAT STARTS AS A CHOICE
  • 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:46.280
  • THEN BECOMES SOMETHING
  • 00:13:46.280 --> 00:13:48.210
  • THAT BECOMES UNCONTROLLABLE.
  • 00:13:48.210 --> 00:13:50.070
  • THERE'S A CHEMICAL
  • 00:13:50.070 --> 00:13:52.000
  • TRANSFORMATION
  • 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.090
  • THAT TAKES PLACE IN YOUR BODY
  • 00:13:53.090 --> 00:13:54.180
  • THAT MAKES YOU CRAVE
  • 00:13:54.180 --> 00:13:55.270
  • AND MAKES YOU SPIRAL
  • 00:13:55.270 --> 00:13:58.010
  • OUT OF CONTROL.
  • 00:13:58.010 --> 00:13:59.130
  • THE REASON WHY,
  • 00:13:59.130 --> 00:14:00.240
  • BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT,
  • 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.280
  • WELL, IF YOU MAKE IT A DISEASE
  • 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:03.060
  • THEN YOU'VE GIVEN SOMEBODY
  • 00:14:03.060 --> 00:14:04.130
  • AN OUT,
  • 00:14:04.130 --> 00:14:05.190
  • YOU'VE GIVEN THEM AN EXCUSE
  • 00:14:05.190 --> 00:14:06.240
  • THAT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY
  • 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.000
  • GOING TO OWN AND TAKE
  • 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.070
  • PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
  • 00:14:09.070 --> 00:14:10.120
  • FOR THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:11.210
  • BUT WHAT I LEARNED
  • 00:14:11.210 --> 00:14:13.030
  • IS THAT WHEN SOMEONE
  • 00:14:13.030 --> 00:14:14.140
  • FULLY RECOGNIZES
  • 00:14:14.140 --> 00:14:15.210
  • THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE
  • 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:16.290
  • IN THEIR LIFE
  • 00:14:16.290 --> 00:14:18.080
  • THAT THEY CAN'T CONTROL,
  • 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.130
  • IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO SOMEONE
  • 00:14:19.130 --> 00:14:20.270
  • WHO HAS A PHYSICAL DISEASE,
  • 00:14:20.270 --> 00:14:22.010
  • THEY KNOW
  • 00:14:22.010 --> 00:14:23.080
  • THEY CAN'T EAT CERTAIN FOODS,
  • 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:24.130
  • THEY CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS.
  • 00:14:24.130 --> 00:14:25.190
  • FOR DANIELLE, SHE KNEW
  • 00:14:25.190 --> 00:14:27.010
  • THAT SHE CAN'T DRINK
  • 00:14:27.010 --> 00:14:28.110
  • IN MODERATION.
  • 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:29.200
  • SHE CAN'T TAKE
  • 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:31.220
  • THIS APPROACH TO LIFE WHERE
  • 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:33.180
  • IT IS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE.
  • 00:14:33.180 --> 00:14:36.160
  • FOR HER, THERE WAS A PHRASE
  • 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:37.250
  • THAT SHE BROUGHT
  • 00:14:37.250 --> 00:14:39.020
  • TO MY ATTENTION...
  • 00:14:39.020 --> 00:14:40.120
  • Danielle: TO DRINK IS TO DIE.
  • 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.040
  • Rob: TO DRINK IS TO DIE.
  • 00:14:42.040 --> 00:14:43.220
  • FOR HER, IT IS THE WAY
  • 00:14:43.220 --> 00:14:45.000
  • HER BODY WOULD RESPOND
  • 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.050
  • TO ALCOHOL.
  • 00:14:46.050 --> 00:14:47.100
  • SO IT WAS HELPFUL, I THINK,
  • 00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:48.160
  • FOR US TO RECOGNIZE
  • 00:14:48.160 --> 00:14:49.260
  • THE UNIQUE SET
  • 00:14:49.260 --> 00:14:51.020
  • OF CIRCUMSTANCES
  • 00:14:51.020 --> 00:14:52.050
  • AROUND DANIELLE'S ADDICTION.
  • 00:14:52.050 --> 00:14:53.140
  • Sheila: LET ME ASK YOU,
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:54.170
  • DANIELLE,
  • 00:14:54.170 --> 00:14:55.240
  • THERE IS SO MUCH MORE
  • 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:56.280
  • IN YOUR STORY.
  • 00:14:56.280 --> 00:14:58.050
  • BUT WHAT IS LIFE LIKE
  • 00:14:58.050 --> 00:14:59.100
  • FOR YOU NOW?
  • 00:14:59.100 --> 00:15:00.160
  • AND HOW DID YOU GAIN TRUST
  • 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:02.100
  • AGAIN?
  • 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:03.180
  • BECAUSE TRUST IS A BIG ISSUE
  • 00:15:03.180 --> 00:15:05.150
  • AND YOU WERE VERY CLOSE
  • 00:15:05.150 --> 00:15:06.230
  • AND I KNOW THAT PART
  • 00:15:06.230 --> 00:15:08.030
  • OF THE ADDICTION IS LYING.
  • 00:15:08.030 --> 00:15:09.110
  • Danielle: MY LIFE IS,
  • 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.180
  • IN COMPARISON, REALLY GOOD.
  • 00:15:15.180 --> 00:15:17.130
  • RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:15:17.130 --> 00:15:19.000
  • THAT'S WHAT I WOULD
  • 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.130
  • I JUST GOT MARRIED.
  • 00:15:25.230 --> 00:15:28.230
  • THE GIRL THAT STOOD DOWN
  • 00:15:28.230 --> 00:15:31.090
  • THE AISLE THREE WEEKS AGO
  • 00:15:31.090 --> 00:15:33.030
  • IS NOT A GIRL
  • 00:15:33.030 --> 00:15:34.150
  • WHO COULD HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED
  • 00:15:34.150 --> 00:15:35.260
  • THREE YEARS AGO.
  • 00:15:35.260 --> 00:15:37.050
  • THAT'S NOT THE TYPE
  • 00:15:37.050 --> 00:15:38.130
  • OF RELATIONSHIPS
  • 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:39.230
  • I WAS CAPABLE OF.
  • 00:15:39.230 --> 00:15:41.010
  • I HAVE FRIENDS NOW.
  • 00:15:41.010 --> 00:15:42.130
  • I WORK IN MINISTRY.
  • 00:15:42.130 --> 00:15:43.250
  • I WORK FOR
  • 00:15:43.250 --> 00:15:45.020
  • THE LANDING MINISTRY
  • 00:15:45.020 --> 00:15:46.110
  • AT OUR CHURCH,
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:47.180
  • WHICH IS THE YOUTH
  • 00:15:47.180 --> 00:15:48.280
  • CELEBRATE RECOVERY PROGRAM.
  • 00:15:48.280 --> 00:15:50.060
  • LIFE IS GOOD.
  • 00:15:50.060 --> 00:15:51.140
  • BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY
  • 00:15:51.140 --> 00:15:52.200
  • THAT RECOVERY IS A JOURNEY.
  • 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.000
  • SO LIFE IS STILL HARD.
  • 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:55.020
  • THE ONLY SOBRIETY I HAVE
  • 00:15:55.020 --> 00:15:56.180
  • IS THE DAY IN FRONT OF ME.
  • 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:57.250
  • I HAVE 24 HOURS OF SOBRIETY,
  • 00:15:57.250 --> 00:15:59.030
  • I HAVE THE HOUR
  • 00:15:59.030 --> 00:16:00.120
  • THAT I'M IN RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.200
  • SO SOMEONE WHO IS SOBER
  • 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.000
  • FOR ONE DAY,
  • 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:04.170
  • ME AND HIM HAVE
  • 00:16:04.170 --> 00:16:05.270
  • THE SAME AMOUNT OF SOBRIETY.
  • 00:16:05.270 --> 00:16:08.090
  • Sheila: HOW ARE YOU DIFFERENT
  • 00:16:08.090 --> 00:16:09.230
  • AS A PASTOR BECAUSE
  • 00:16:09.230 --> 00:16:11.030
  • OF WHAT YOU'VE WALKED THROUGH
  • 00:16:11.030 --> 00:16:12.090
  • WITH DANIELLE?
  • 00:16:12.090 --> 00:16:13.170
  • Rob: MY WHOLE LIFE
  • 00:16:13.170 --> 00:16:14.260
  • HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED
  • 00:16:14.260 --> 00:16:16.150
  • IN TERMS OF THE SENSITIVITY
  • 00:16:16.150 --> 00:16:19.050
  • THAT I HAVE FOR PEOPLE
  • 00:16:19.050 --> 00:16:21.000
  • WHO ARE WALKING THROUGH
  • 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.220
  • REALLY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES.
  • 00:16:22.220 --> 00:16:24.030
  • I THINK THAT'S PART
  • 00:16:24.030 --> 00:16:25.160
  • OF THE PROCESS.
  • 00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:27.050
  • FOR DANIELLE,
  • 00:16:27.050 --> 00:16:28.170
  • IT WAS ADDERALL
  • 00:16:28.170 --> 00:16:29.260
  • AND IT WAS WEED
  • 00:16:29.260 --> 00:16:31.130
  • AND IT WAS ALCOHOL
  • 00:16:31.130 --> 00:16:33.190
  • BUT THERE ARE ADDICTIONS
  • 00:16:33.190 --> 00:16:35.040
  • THAT SURFACE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES
  • 00:16:35.040 --> 00:16:36.170
  • IN ALL KINDS
  • 00:16:36.170 --> 00:16:37.250
  • OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 00:16:37.250 --> 00:16:39.080
  • AND SO EVEN AS A CHURCH,
  • 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:40.210
  • AS A PASTOR
  • 00:16:40.210 --> 00:16:42.020
  • OF A LARGE CONGREGATION
  • 00:16:42.020 --> 00:16:43.160
  • WHEN I LOOK OUT
  • 00:16:44.270 --> 00:16:46.030
  • ON SUNDAY MORNING AND I SEE
  • 00:16:46.030 --> 00:16:47.150
  • THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:16:47.150 --> 00:16:48.250
  • WHO GATHER THERE,
  • 00:16:48.250 --> 00:16:50.050
  • I JUST RECOGNIZE
  • 00:16:50.050 --> 00:16:51.130
  • THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING
  • 00:16:52.180 --> 00:16:53.260
  • IN A WHOLE HOST
  • 00:16:53.260 --> 00:16:55.060
  • OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
  • 00:16:55.060 --> 00:16:56.130
  • SO PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
  • 00:16:56.130 --> 00:16:57.220
  • WITH EATING DISORDERS,
  • 00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:59.030
  • PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
  • 00:16:59.030 --> 00:17:00.180
  • WITH DIVORCE ISSUES,
  • 00:17:00.180 --> 00:17:02.020
  • PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
  • 00:17:02.020 --> 00:17:03.120
  • WITH ALCOHOL, OBVIOUSLY,
  • 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.260
  • DRUGS, PORNOGRAPHY,
  • 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:06.100
  • SEX ADDICTION ISSUES.
  • 00:17:06.100 --> 00:17:07.230
  • AND TO RECOGNIZE
  • 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:09.140
  • THAT THE PATHWAY TO HEALING
  • 00:17:09.140 --> 00:17:11.110
  • IS VERY SIMILAR FOR ALL
  • 00:17:11.110 --> 00:17:12.270
  • OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS,
  • 00:17:12.270 --> 00:17:14.070
  • WE NEED FAITH IN GOD.
  • 00:17:14.070 --> 00:17:15.210
  • WE NEED GOOD COMMUNITY,
  • 00:17:15.210 --> 00:17:17.200
  • WE NEED GOOD FRIENDS,
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.060
  • WE NEED GOOD SUPPORT SYSTEMS,
  • 00:17:19.060 --> 00:17:20.150
  • WE NEED GOOD INFORMATION.
  • 00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:22.020
  • ACTUALLY, THAT'S A PART
  • 00:17:22.020 --> 00:17:23.150
  • OF WHAT THIS BOOK IS.
  • 00:17:23.150 --> 00:17:24.260
  • IT'S NOT JUST OUR STORY,
  • 00:17:24.260 --> 00:17:26.100
  • IT'S A VERY PRACTICAL GUIDE
  • 00:17:26.170 --> 00:17:29.170
  • FOR HOW YOU CAN WALK THROUGH
  • 00:17:29.170 --> 00:17:31.140
  • THESE KINDS OF CHALLENGES,
  • 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:33.000
  • ESPECIALLY FOR PARENTS
  • 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:34.180
  • AND CHILDREN.
  • 00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:35.280
  • WE WROTE THIS BOOK
  • 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:37.060
  • WITH MY VOICE,
  • 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:38.230
  • AS A FATHER
  • 00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:40.050
  • AND DANIELLE'S VOICE
  • 00:17:40.050 --> 00:17:41.120
  • AS SOMEONE GOING THROUGH
  • 00:17:41.120 --> 00:17:42.230
  • THE CHALLENGES.
  • 00:17:42.230 --> 00:17:44.040
  • IT'S MAGNIFICENTLY RAW
  • 00:17:44.040 --> 00:17:46.160
  • IT IS NOT SUGAR-COATED.
  • 00:17:48.010 --> 00:17:50.210
  • IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
  • 00:17:50.210 --> 00:17:52.060
  • AND WITH ALL OF OUR TEARS
  • 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:53.150
  • AND HER SENSE OF HUMOR
  • 00:17:55.120 --> 00:17:56.200
  • AND HER WIT,
  • 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:57.240
  • IT ALL COMES THROUGH
  • 00:17:57.240 --> 00:17:58.290
  • IN THIS BOOK.
  • 00:17:58.290 --> 00:18:00.080
  • SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IT.
  • 00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:01.120
  • WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE
  • 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:02.240
  • A SOURCE OF INSPIRATION.
  • 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.060
  • Randy: THERE IS ONE THING
  • 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:06.250
  • THAT YOU TOLD ME EARLIER
  • 00:18:06.250 --> 00:18:08.260
  • THAT I WANT TO BRING OUT
  • 00:18:08.260 --> 00:18:10.070
  • BECAUSE YES,
  • 00:18:10.070 --> 00:18:12.050
  • WE NEED TO ADDRESS
  • 00:18:12.050 --> 00:18:13.130
  • THE PHYSICAL
  • 00:18:13.130 --> 00:18:14.250
  • AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ASPECTS
  • 00:18:14.250 --> 00:18:16.070
  • OF ADDICTION
  • 00:18:16.070 --> 00:18:17.160
  • BUT YET MOST OF THE GIRLS
  • 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:18.280
  • THAT WENT THROUGH,
  • 00:18:18.280 --> 00:18:20.050
  • OR PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW
  • 00:18:20.050 --> 00:18:21.150
  • IF THEY'RE ALL GIRLS,
  • 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:22.230
  • WENT THROUGH
  • 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:24.060
  • THE PROGRAM WITH YOU
  • 00:18:24.060 --> 00:18:25.110
  • THAT DIDN'T ADDRESS IT
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:26.170
  • WITH A SPIRITUAL COMPONENT,
  • 00:18:26.170 --> 00:18:27.260
  • DIDN'T QUITE HAVE
  • 00:18:27.260 --> 00:18:29.080
  • THE SAME SUCCESS.
  • 00:18:29.080 --> 00:18:30.200
  • WHAT EXACTLY
  • 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:31.270
  • DID YOU TELL ME EARLIER?
  • 00:18:31.290 --> 00:18:34.290
  • Danielle: I ATTRIBUTE
  • 00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:36.140
  • MY RECOVERY TO CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:40.190
  • LIKE I FOUGHT
  • 00:18:40.190 --> 00:18:43.030
  • FOR MY CHRISTIANITY IN REHAB.
  • 00:18:43.060 --> 00:18:46.060
  • I THINK...
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:47.140
  • Randy: HOW MANY OF THEM
  • 00:18:47.140 --> 00:18:48.240
  • RELAPSED?
  • 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.020
  • Danielle: AT LEAST 98 PERCENT
  • 00:18:50.020 --> 00:18:51.080
  • OF THEM.
  • 00:18:51.080 --> 00:18:52.290
  • OF THE PEOPLE
  • 00:18:54.230 --> 00:18:56.010
  • THAT WENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM,
  • 00:18:56.010 --> 00:18:57.090
  • AND IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING
  • 00:18:57.090 --> 00:18:58.180
  • DANIELLE WOULD...
  • 00:19:01.270 --> 00:19:03.120
  • Danielle: RESERVE
  • 00:19:03.120 --> 00:19:04.200
  • A SECTION AT CHURCH.
  • 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:06.040
  • Rob: RESERVE
  • 00:19:06.040 --> 00:19:07.110
  • A SECTION AT CHURCH
  • 00:19:07.110 --> 00:19:08.140
  • FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT SHE
  • 00:19:08.140 --> 00:19:09.230
  • HAD KIND OF CONNECTED WITH
  • 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:10.270
  • AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY
  • 00:19:10.270 --> 00:19:12.010
  • COME UP TO OUR OFFICE
  • 00:19:12.010 --> 00:19:13.040
  • IN-BETWEEN SERVICES,
  • 00:19:13.040 --> 00:19:14.080
  • AFTER SERVICE,
  • 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:15.130
  • WE WOULD TALK TO THEM
  • 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:16.180
  • AND HEAR THEIR STORIES.
  • 00:19:16.180 --> 00:19:17.210
  • THEY WERE JUST
  • 00:19:17.210 --> 00:19:18.250
  • THE CROSS-SECTION
  • 00:19:18.250 --> 00:19:20.000
  • OF AMERICAN LIFE.
  • 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:21.050
  • THEY WERE RAISED
  • 00:19:21.050 --> 00:19:22.130
  • IN GOOD FAMILIES.
  • 00:19:22.130 --> 00:19:23.230
  • THEY EVEN HAD ASPIRATIONS
  • 00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:25.060
  • FOR COLLEGE.
  • 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:26.130
  • ONE OF THEM
  • 00:19:26.130 --> 00:19:27.210
  • WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS ASPIRING
  • 00:19:27.210 --> 00:19:29.000
  • TO BE INVOLVED IN ATHLETICS.
  • 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.160
  • BUT THEY WERE KIND OF
  • 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:31.250
  • STICKING THEIR TOE
  • 00:19:31.250 --> 00:19:33.050
  • INTO CHURCH LIFE;
  • 00:19:33.050 --> 00:19:34.150
  • IT WASN'T THE WAY THAT
  • 00:19:34.150 --> 00:19:35.240
  • THEY WERE APPROACHING LIFE.
  • 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.010
  • SO WE GOT A CHANCE
  • 00:19:37.010 --> 00:19:38.070
  • TO ACTUALLY MEET THEM
  • 00:19:38.070 --> 00:19:39.140
  • AND TALK WITH THEM.
  • 00:19:39.140 --> 00:19:40.240
  • AND IT WAS SO HEARTBREAKING
  • 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.070
  • TO HEAR STORY AFTER STORY
  • 00:19:42.070 --> 00:19:43.160
  • OF PEOPLE WHO RELAPSED
  • 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:45.060
  • AND WENT BACK
  • 00:19:45.060 --> 00:19:46.160
  • INTO THEIR LIFESTYLE;
  • 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:47.260
  • EVEN WITH THE PLEDGES
  • 00:19:47.260 --> 00:19:49.020
  • AND HOPES TO REMAIN FAITHFUL
  • 00:19:49.020 --> 00:19:51.100
  • AND TRUE TO THEIR SOBRIETY.
  • 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:53.030
  • THEY WOULD OFTEN RELAPSE.
  • 00:19:53.030 --> 00:19:55.060
  • SO WE EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT
  • 00:19:55.060 --> 00:19:56.140
  • IN THE BOOK,
  • 00:19:56.140 --> 00:19:57.230
  • SOME OF THE DANGER SIGNS,
  • 00:19:57.230 --> 00:19:58.270
  • WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR,
  • 00:19:58.270 --> 00:20:00.000
  • AND HOW YOU NEED
  • 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.070
  • TO APPROACH THIS PROCESS
  • 00:20:01.070 --> 00:20:02.220
  • SO THAT YOU REMAIN FIRM
  • 00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:04.000
  • AND STRONG.
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.040
  • BUT WITHOUT FAITH IN GOD,
  • 00:20:05.040 --> 00:20:06.070
  • HONESTLY...
  • 00:20:06.070 --> 00:20:08.110
  • Danielle: IT WOULDN'T BE
  • 00:20:08.110 --> 00:20:09.210
  • POSSIBLE.
  • 00:20:09.210 --> 00:20:10.250
  • Sheila: THE BOOK
  • 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:11.280
  • IS PHENOMENAL.
  • 00:20:11.280 --> 00:20:12.290
  • IT IS CALLED
  • 00:20:12.290 --> 00:20:14.020
  • PRODIGAL DAUGHTER :
  • 00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:15.040
  • A FAMILY'S BRAVE JOURNEY
  • 00:20:15.040 --> 00:20:16.080
  • THROUGH ADDICTION RECOVERY.
  • 00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:17.100
  • IT IS A FANTASTIC BOOK!
  • 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:18.140
  • HOW YOU CAN GET A COPY.
  • 00:20:19.180 --> 00:20:21.070
  • THERE ARE SOME OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:20:21.070 --> 00:20:22.130
  • WHO ARE REALLY
  • 00:20:22.130 --> 00:20:23.180
  • STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW
  • 00:20:23.180 --> 00:20:25.010
  • AND WE CAN HELP THEM
  • 00:20:25.010 --> 00:20:26.060
  • IT'S BEEN OUR GOAL TO GET
  • 00:20:27.270 --> 00:20:29.060
  • 150.000 CHILDREN
  • 00:20:29.060 --> 00:20:31.010
  • SHOES FOR CHRISTMAS.
  • 00:20:31.010 --> 00:20:32.130
  • THIS IS OUR LAST WEEK.
  • 00:20:32.130 --> 00:20:35.010
  • WE CAN ALL DO SOMETHING.
  • 00:20:35.010 --> 00:20:36.220
  • VERY REASONABLE.
  • 00:20:36.220 --> 00:20:38.070
  • FOR $36 YOU CAN GIVE
  • 00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:40.060
  • TEN CHILDREN A PAIR OF SHOES.
  • 00:20:40.060 --> 00:20:42.260
  • YOU CAN'T BUY SHOES
  • 00:20:42.260 --> 00:20:44.030
  • FOR THAT PRICE OVER HERE.
  • 00:20:44.030 --> 00:20:45.130
  • FOR $180 YOU CAN PUT SHOES
  • 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:48.040
  • ON THE FEET OF 50 CHILDREN.
  • 00:20:48.040 --> 00:20:50.110
  • Randy: YOU CAN SEND THAT GIFT
  • 00:20:50.110 --> 00:20:51.220
  • HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD.
  • 00:20:51.220 --> 00:20:53.120
  • GO ONLINE TO LIFETODAY.ORG,
  • 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:55.230
  • MAKE THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN
  • 00:20:55.230 --> 00:20:58.010
  • AND THIS WONDERFUL GIFT
  • 00:20:58.010 --> 00:20:59.090
  • WILL ARRIVE THIS CHRISTMAS
  • 00:20:59.090 --> 00:21:00.170
  • FOR CHILDREN WHO WILL
  • 00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:01.220
  • APPRECIATE IT SO, SO MUCH.
  • 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.280
  • WE CALL IT CHRISTMAS SHOES
  • 00:21:04.280 --> 00:21:06.040
  • AND SMILES BECAUSE THERE IS
  • 00:21:06.040 --> 00:21:07.100
  • ANOTHER PART OF THIS.
  • 00:21:07.100 --> 00:21:09.000
  • WE PROVIDE SHOES BUT
  • 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:10.160
  • WE ALSO PROVIDE SMILES,
  • 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.060
  • LITERALLY GIVING CHILDREN
  • 00:21:12.060 --> 00:21:13.180
  • THE ABILITY TO SMILE AS
  • 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:15.190
  • WE GO IN AND WE WORK WITH
  • 00:21:15.190 --> 00:21:16.250
  • THESE SURGEONS WHO HAVE
  • 00:21:16.250 --> 00:21:18.050
  • SO GRACIOUSLY GIVEN OF
  • 00:21:18.050 --> 00:21:19.120
  • THEIR TIME TO FIX A CLEFT LIP,
  • 00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:22.210
  • A CLEFT PALATE.
  • 00:21:22.210 --> 00:21:24.070
  • $500 WILL DO THAT FOR ONE.
  • 00:21:24.070 --> 00:21:25.290
  • $1.000 FOR TWO.
  • 00:21:25.290 --> 00:21:27.290
  • WHATEVER YOU CAN DO,
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  • I THINK IT IS THAT SENSE
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  • OF GIVING, THAT SENSE
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  • OF YOU KNOW WHAT?
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  • WE ARE THE EXPRESSION
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  • OF THE ONE WE CELEBRATE
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  • AT CHRISTMAS -- OF CHRIST.
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  • WILL YOU GO ONLINE OR
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  • PICK UP THE PHONE AND GIVE
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  • THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN?
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  • GIVE SOME SHOES
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  • POVERTY IS A KILLER
  • 00:21:49.230 --> 00:21:51.250
  • AND BECAUSE OF IT CHILDREN NEEDLESSLY SUFFER,
  • 00:21:51.280 --> 00:21:54.210
  • NOT ONLY FROM A LACK A FOOD AND CLEAN WATER
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  • BUT ALSO FROM A LACK OF THINGS
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  • WE OFTEN TAKE FOR GRANTED
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  • LIKE A SIMPLE PAIR OF SHOES.
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  • FAR TOO MANY CHILDREN LIVING IN EXTREME POVERTY
  • 00:22:03.100 --> 00:22:05.240
  • HAVE NEVER OWNED A NEW PAIR OF SHOES.
  • 00:22:05.270 --> 00:22:08.100
  • AND WHILE THAT MAY SEEM MINOR IN LIGHT OF ALL THEIR NEEDS,
  • 00:22:08.130 --> 00:22:10.260
  • WALKING WITH BARE FEET
  • 00:22:10.290 --> 00:22:12.260
  • PUTS THEM AT RISK OF LIFE-THREATENING INFECTIONS AND DISEASE
  • 00:22:12.290 --> 00:22:15.250
  • THAT COULD LEAD TO CRIPPLING CONSEQUENCES AND EVEN DEATH.
  • 00:22:15.280 --> 00:22:19.180
  • BY RESPONDING TODAY YOU CAN HELP IMMEDIATELY SECURE
  • 00:22:19.210 --> 00:22:22.170
  • AND BEGIN SHIPPING CHRISTMAS SHOES
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  • TO 150.000 CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD
  • 00:22:24.210 --> 00:22:27.160
  • JUST IN TIME FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
  • 00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:30.040
  • YOUR GIFT OF $36 WILL HELP PROVIDE TEN PAIRS OF SHOES.
  • 00:22:30.070 --> 00:22:33.200
  • A GIFT OF $72 WILL PROVIDE 20-PAIR
  • 00:22:33.230 --> 00:22:36.090
  • AND A GIFT OF $180
  • 00:22:36.120 --> 00:22:38.100
  • WILL HELP PROVIDE 50 PAIRS OF CHRISTMAS SHOES
  • 00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:40.140
  • FOR CHILDREN IN NEED.
  • 00:22:40.170 --> 00:22:42.140
  • AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT OF SUPPORT,
  • 00:22:42.170 --> 00:22:44.140
  • BE SURE TO REQUEST THIS BEAUTIFULLY CRAFTED
  • 00:22:44.170 --> 00:22:46.140
  • GREEN CRYSTAL SHOE ORNAMENT,
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  • A TREASURE TO DISPLAY AT EACH CHRISTMAS.
  • 00:22:48.170 --> 00:22:50.270
  • WITH YOUR GIFT OF $100 OR MORE
  • 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.000
  • YOU MAY ALSO REQUEST THIS KEEPSAKE BOXED SET
  • 00:22:53.030 --> 00:22:55.110
  • OF LIFE'S CHRISTMAS SHOE ORNAMENTS.
  • 00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:57.220
  • FINALLY, PLEASE CONSIDER A GIFT OF $1.000 OR MORE
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  • TO HELP PROVIDE OVER 275 PAIRS OF SHOES
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  • OR TWO CHILDREN WITH CORRECTIVE CLEFT PALATE SURGERIES.
  • 00:23:04.050 --> 00:23:07.070
  • AND YOU MAY REQUEST THE BEAUTIFUL
  • 00:23:07.100 --> 00:23:09.070
  • "SAFE IN THE SHEPHERD'S ARMS" BRONZE SCULPTURE.
  • 00:23:09.100 --> 00:23:11.260
  • THIS IS THE LAST WEEK!
  • 00:23:11.290 --> 00:23:13.260
  • PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR GIFT ONLINE TODAY!
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  • Sheila: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:23:16.270 --> 00:23:19.270
  • AND FOR ANY GIFT AT ALL,
  • 00:23:19.270 --> 00:23:21.090
  • WE WILL SEND YOU
  • 00:23:21.090 --> 00:23:22.150
  • PRODIGAL DAUGHTER .
  • 00:23:22.150 --> 00:23:23.220
  • IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
  • 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:24.240
  • YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE
  • 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.250
  • WITH OUR AUDIENCE?
  • 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:26.270
  • Danielle: YEAH.
  • 00:23:26.270 --> 00:23:28.050
  • I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY
  • 00:23:28.050 --> 00:23:29.090
  • THAT WHOEVER YOU ARE,
  • 00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:30.110
  • YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
  • 00:23:30.110 --> 00:23:31.150
  • Sheila: THAT'S HUGE!
  • 00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:32.220
  • Rob: AND THAT'S A HUGE PART
  • 00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:33.250
  • OF THIS PROCESS.
  • 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:34.260
  • TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S HOPE
  • 00:23:34.260 --> 00:23:36.040
  • -- THERE'S HOPE FOR VICTORY,
  • 00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:37.090
  • THERE'S HOPE FOR YOUR FUTURE,
  • 00:23:37.090 --> 00:23:38.130
  • AND RECOVERY
  • 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:39.170
  • IS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE.
  • 00:23:39.170 --> 00:23:40.260
  • Randy: WHAT A WONDERFUL WORD!
  • 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:42.020
  • THANK YOU FOR SHARING
  • 00:23:42.020 --> 00:23:43.040
  • THAT HOPE WITH US.
  • 00:23:43.040 --> 00:23:44.050
  • WOULD YOU THANK
  • 00:23:44.050 --> 00:23:45.090
  • ROB AND DANIELLE
  • 00:23:45.090 --> 00:23:46.140
  • FOR BEING HERE ON LIFE TODAY ?
  • 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:48.000
  • THANK YOU FOR BEING
  • 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.020
  • WITH US ON LIFE TODAY .
  • 00:23:49.020 --> 00:23:50.040
  • Sheila: SEE YOU NEXT TIME
  • 00:23:50.040 --> 00:23:51.060
  • THROUGH YOU, I CAN DO ANYTHING
  • 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.260
  • I CAN DO ALL THINGS
  • 00:24:08.290 --> 00:24:11.280
  • 'CAUSE IT'S YOU WHO GIVES ME STRENGTH
  • 00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:15.200
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
  • 00:24:15.230 --> 00:24:17.290
  • THROUGH YOU, BLIND EYES ARE OPENED
  • 00:24:18.020 --> 00:24:22.100
  • STRONGHOLDS ARE BROKEN
  • 00:24:22.130 --> 00:24:25.140
  • I AM LIVING BY FAITH
  • 00:24:25.170 --> 00:24:29.080
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!
  • 00:24:29.110 --> 00:24:31.270
  • 00:24:36.110 --> 00:24:42.030
  • I'M NOT GONNA LIVE BY WHAT I SEE
  • 00:24:45.050 --> 00:24:51.280
  • I'M NOT GONNA LIVE BY WHAT I FEEL
  • 00:24:52.010 --> 00:24:56.100
  • 'CAUSE DEEP DOWN I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE WITH ME
  • 00:24:58.150 --> 00:25:03.290
  • I KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
  • 00:25:05.140 --> 00:25:11.080
  • THROUGH YOU, I CAN DO ANYTHING
  • 00:25:11.110 --> 00:25:16.190
  • I CAN DO ALL THINGS
  • 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:19.170
  • 'CAUSE IT'S YOU WHO GIVES ME STRENGTH
  • 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:23.090
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
  • 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:25.160
  • THROUGH YOU, BLIND EYES ARE OPENED
  • 00:25:25.190 --> 00:25:30.010
  • STRONGHOLDS ARE BROKEN
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:33.020
  • I AM LIVING BY FAITH
  • 00:25:33.050 --> 00:25:36.270
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!
  • 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.160
  • 00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:46.240
  • SING I BELIEVE IT
  • 00:25:50.270 --> 00:25:52.200
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:25:52.230 --> 00:25:56.020
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:25:56.050 --> 00:25:59.100
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:25:59.130 --> 00:26:02.260
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:26:02.290 --> 00:26:06.060
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:26:06.090 --> 00:26:09.160
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:13.040
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:26:13.070 --> 00:26:16.090
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:19.190
  • THROUGH YOU, I CAN DO ANYTHING
  • 00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:24.020
  • I CAN DO ALL THINGS
  • 00:26:24.050 --> 00:26:27.040
  • 'CAUSE IT'S YOU WHO GIVES ME STRENGTH
  • 00:26:27.070 --> 00:26:30.270
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
  • 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.050
  • THROUGH YOU, BLIND EYES ARE OPENED
  • 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:37.120
  • STRONGHOLDS ARE BROKEN
  • 00:26:37.150 --> 00:26:40.180
  • I AM LIVING BY FAITH
  • 00:26:40.210 --> 00:26:44.080
  • NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!
  • 00:26:44.110 --> 00:26:46.190
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:26:46.220 --> 00:26:50.010
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:53.130
  • I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE
  • 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.250
  • I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN YOU
  • 00:26:56.280 --> 00:27:00.180
  • AFTER MUCH PRAYER AND GRIEVING,
  • 00:27:02.260 --> 00:27:04.230
  • GOD TOOK THEM FROM MISCARRIAGES
  • 00:27:04.260 --> 00:27:06.230
  • TO MIRACLE TRIPLETS.
  • 00:27:06.260 --> 00:27:08.230
  • BE INSPIRED TO PRAY BIG THINGS - TOMORROW!
  • 00:27:08.260 --> 00:27:13.060
  • LIFE TODAY IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS OF LIFE OUTREACH INTERNATIONAL.
  • 00:27:13.090 --> 00:27:16.210
  • YOUR GIFT WILL BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE EXEMPT PURPOSES OF LIFE.
  • 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.240
  • THE MINISTRY FEATURES SPECIFIC OUTREACHES
  • 00:27:19.270 --> 00:27:21.260
  • AS EXAMPLES OF THE PROGRAMS IT SUPPORTS AND CONDUCTS.
  • 00:27:21.290 --> 00:27:23.280
  • GIFTS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE WITHOUT RESTRICTION
  • 00:27:24.010 --> 00:27:26.000
  • AS TO USE UNLESS EXPLICITLY STIPULATED BY THE DONOR.
  • 00:27:26.030 --> 00:27:28.040
  • THE MINISTRY IS A MEMBER OF THE E.C.F.A.
  • 00:27:28.070 --> 00:27:30.140