David Jeremiah | Look to the Mountain
January 27, 2021
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The author of “Shelter in God” offers insight on how to have hope in a world that feels hopeless.
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David Jeremiah | Look to the Mountain
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- - The magnificentdifference is
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- you don't livealone anymore.
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- You have an ally.You have the lordJesus Christ.
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- He's a friendwho sticks closerthan a brother.
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- When I first got to know himhe was my savior
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- but the longerI've walked with himhe's become my friend.
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- Experience hopein a time of uncertainty
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- by findingshelter in God.
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- - I don't know how peopleget through a time like this
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- if they don't knowthe wonder of God the Father
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- and the presenceof Jesus Christ.
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- ♪
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- SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .
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- SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .I'm Sheila Walsh.
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- SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .I'm Sheila Walsh.Whenever we walk through
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- I'm Sheila Walsh.Whenever we walk througha crisis, it always seems
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- Whenever we walk througha crisis, it always seemsthat history reveals
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- or women on the scene
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- or women on the sceneto speak to that to bring
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- or women on the sceneto speak to that to bringcomfort to the body.
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- to speak to that to bringcomfort to the body.I certainly know that
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- comfort to the body.I certainly know thatis true of my friend,
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- I certainly know thatis true of my friend,Dr. David Jeremiah whose
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- is true of my friend,Dr. David Jeremiah whosenew book, S helter in God :
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- Dr. David Jeremiah whosenew book, S helter in God :"Your refuge in times
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- new book, S helter in God :"Your refuge in timesof trouble" could not
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- Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!
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- Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!Thank you so much for being
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- Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!Thank you so much for beingwith us here on Life Today .
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- Thank you so much for beingwith us here on Life Today .DAVID: It's really fun
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- and I'm glad I got the chance.
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- and I'm glad I got the chance.Sheila Well, thank you.
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- and I'm glad I got the chance.Sheila Well, thank you.This book was released
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- during the whole
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- during the wholecovid-19 crisis
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- during the wholecovid-19 crisisbut I wanted to ask you
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- are there other times
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- are there other timesin world history
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- when you've had to find
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- when you've had to findyour Shelter in God ,
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- when you've had to findyour Shelter in God ,not just
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- your Shelter in God ,not justthis particular year?
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- not justthis particular year?DAVID: You can go back
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- this particular year?DAVID: You can go backin history
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- DAVID: You can go backin historyand put a circle
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- in historyand put a circlearound some dates.
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- and put a circlearound some dates.Like Donna and I were
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- around some dates.Like Donna and I werein Dallas when
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- Like Donna and I werein Dallas whenPresident Kennedy was shot.
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- in Dallas whenPresident Kennedy was shot.I was a student
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- President Kennedy was shot.I was a studentat Dallas Seminary
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- I was a studentat Dallas Seminaryat the time.
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- at Dallas Seminaryat the time.Donna was working
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- at the time.Donna was workingat the Bluecross building
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- Donna was workingat the Bluecross buildingand saw the president
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- at the Bluecross buildingand saw the presidentlike five minutes
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- and saw the presidentlike five minutesbefore he was shot.
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- like five minutesbefore he was shot.I was working
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- before he was shot.I was workingfor the Wall Street Journal
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- I was workingfor the Wall Street Journalat the time.
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- for the Wall Street Journalat the time.We were right in the middle
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- at the time.We were right in the middleof all that.
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- We were right in the middleof all that.I remember,
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- of all that.I remember,I'll be honest with you,
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- I remember,I'll be honest with you,the first thing
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- I'll be honest with you,the first thingI wanted to do
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- the first thingI wanted to dowas find a phone someplace
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- I wanted to dowas find a phone someplaceand call my mom.
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- was find a phone someplaceand call my mom.I just wanted to call her
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- I needed somebody
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- that there was some things
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- that there was some thingsthat were still okay.
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- that were still okay.That was
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- That wasthe most bizarre thing
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- the most bizarre thingI ever remembered.
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- 9/11 was another one
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- 9/11 was another oneof those experiences
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- 9/11 was another oneof those experienceswhere we all were shocked
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- of those experienceswhere we all were shockedinto going to church
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- where we all were shockedinto going to churchthe next week.
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- into going to churchthe next week.I remember right after that
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- the next week.I remember right after thatwe had like four weeks
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- I remember right after thatwe had like four weeksof unbelievable attendances
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- we had like four weeksof unbelievable attendancesand then everybody
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- of unbelievable attendancesand then everybodyjust sort of went back
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- and then everybodyjust sort of went backto normal.
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- just sort of went backto normal.That was an event
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- to normal.That was an eventbut what we went through
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- That was an eventbut what we went throughwith the coronavirus
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- but what we went throughwith the coronaviruswasn't an event,
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- with the coronaviruswasn't an event,it was say situation.
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- wasn't an event,it was say situation.I sort of think,
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- it was say situation.I sort of think,sometimes I think,
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- I sort of think,sometimes I think,God said, "Okay,
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- sometimes I think,God said, "Okay,I'm going to try this.
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- God said, "Okay,I'm going to try this.Here's an event
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- I'm going to try this.Here's an eventto shake you up.
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- Here's an eventto shake you up.And that didn't work so okay,
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- to shake you up.And that didn't work so okay,here's several weeks
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- And that didn't work so okay,here's several weeksto shake you up."
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- here's several weeksto shake you up."And this is far more serious
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- to shake you up."And this is far more seriousand I think is going
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- And this is far more seriousand I think is goingto have a much greater impact
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- and I think is goingto have a much greater impacton a lot of lives
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- SHEILA: It's interesting
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- SHEILA: It's interestingbecause when you see
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- SHEILA: It's interestingbecause when you seeeverything that happened
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- because when you seeeverything that happenedand then there was all sorts
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- everything that happenedand then there was all sortsof violence and looting,
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- and then there was all sortsof violence and looting,and that's still with
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- of violence and looting,and that's still withthe presence of the church
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- and that's still withthe presence of the churchon the planet,
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- the presence of the churchon the planet,that's still
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- on the planet,that's stillwith the restraint
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- that's stillwith the restraintof the holy spirit.
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- with the restraintof the holy spirit.I can only imagine
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- of the holy spirit.I can only imaginewhen the believers,
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- I can only imaginewhen the believers,when we're no longer here,
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- when the believers,when we're no longer here,I can't even imagine
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- when we're no longer here,I can't even imaginehow devastating
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- I can't even imaginehow devastatingthis world will be.
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- how devastatingthis world will be.DAVID: That's a very,
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- this world will be.DAVID: That's a very,very important insight,
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- DAVID: That's a very,very important insight,Sheila, because
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- very important insight,Sheila, becausethe Bible says that one day
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- Sheila, becausethe Bible says that one dayall of the saints
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- the Bible says that one dayall of the saintson this earth are going
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- all of the saintson this earth are goingto be caught up together
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- on this earth are goingto be caught up togetherto be with the Lord
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- to be caught up togetherto be with the Lordand so shall we ever be
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- to be with the Lordand so shall we ever bewith him.
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- and so shall we ever bewith him.And when they go up
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- with him.And when they go upthe Holy Spirit is removed
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- And when they go upthe Holy Spirit is removedbecause the Holy Spirit
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- the Holy Spirit is removedbecause the Holy Spiritlives within
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- because the Holy Spiritlives withinthe hearts of believers.
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- lives withinthe hearts of believers.And the Bible says
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- the hearts of believers.And the Bible saysthat the Holy Spirit
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- And the Bible saysthat the Holy Spiritis the restrainer.
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- that the Holy Spiritis the restrainer.When the restrainer is gone
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- is the restrainer.When the restrainer is goneand everything
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- When the restrainer is goneand everythingis totally without
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- and everythingis totally withoutany restraint whatsoever,
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- is totally withoutany restraint whatsoever,it's going to be like
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- any restraint whatsoever,it's going to be likewhat we're going through
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- it's going to be likewhat we're going throughright now
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- what we're going throughright nowbut 10, 15, 20 times worse.
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- right nowbut 10, 15, 20 times worse.And so
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- but 10, 15, 20 times worse.And soyou're absolutely right.
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- And soyou're absolutely right.What we're seeing right now
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- you're absolutely right.What we're seeing right nowis a little view
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- What we're seeing right nowis a little viewinto what it will be like
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- is a little viewinto what it will be likeduring the tribulation period
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- into what it will be likeduring the tribulation periodevery single day
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- during the tribulation periodevery single dayfor seven years.
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- every single dayfor seven years.SHEILA: Wow!
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- for seven years.SHEILA: Wow!It's given me...
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- SHEILA: Wow!It's given me...I mean my upbringing,
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- It's given me...I mean my upbringing,I joined Youth for Christ
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- I mean my upbringing,I joined Youth for Christafter seminary because
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- I joined Youth for Christafter seminary becausemy passion was for evangelism.
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- after seminary becausemy passion was for evangelism.But I have to say
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- my passion was for evangelism.But I have to sayat this stage and day
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- But I have to sayat this stage and dayit's given me a fresh desire
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- at this stage and dayit's given me a fresh desireto reach people
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- it's given me a fresh desireto reach peoplewith the good news of Jesus
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- to reach peoplewith the good news of Jesuswhile we still can.
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- with the good news of Jesuswhile we still can.David: Well,
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- we have a much more
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- we have a much morelistening audience
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- listening audiencethat we normally would have.
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- that we normally would have.I think people are starting
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- about these things
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- about these thingsin ways they haven't before.
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- about these thingsin ways they haven't before.And as it goes on
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- in ways they haven't before.And as it goes onand as we've lived
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- And as it goes onand as we've livedthrough all the aftermath
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- and as we've livedthrough all the aftermathof the death
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- through all the aftermathof the deathof that young man
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- of the deathof that young manwho was murdered
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- of that young manwho was murderedand all the other things
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- who was murderedand all the other thingsthat happened after that,
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- and all the other thingsthat happened after that,as we lived through
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- that happened after that,as we lived throughall of that,
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- as we lived throughall of that,we were just shaken
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- all of that,we were just shakento our core.
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- we were just shakento our core.And we're Christians.
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- to our core.And we're Christians.Can you imagine
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- And we're Christians.Can you imaginewhat it would be like
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- Can you imaginewhat it would be likeif you didn't know
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- what it would be likeif you didn't knowJesus Christ?
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- if you didn't knowJesus Christ?If you didn't have anything
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- Jesus Christ?If you didn't have anythingto lean on or to rest on?
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- If you didn't have anythingto lean on or to rest on?So yeah, we're in a time
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- to lean on or to rest on?So yeah, we're in a timewhen the gospel should be
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- So yeah, we're in a timewhen the gospel should bebearing fruit in ways
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- when the gospel should bebearing fruit in waysit has not in the past.
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- Shelter in God ,
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- Shelter in God ,I love the way
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- I love the waythat you help us understand
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- that you help us understandwhat was going on
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- when he wrote certain psalms.
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- when he wrote certain psalms.But you also had this --
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- when he wrote certain psalms.But you also had this --it was almost
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- But you also had this --it was almosta funny observation
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- it was almosta funny observationbecause I realized
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- a funny observationbecause I realizedyou were talking to me.
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- because I realizedyou were talking to me.You talk about Psalm 121,
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- you were talking to me.You talk about Psalm 121,and it's not just about me
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- You talk about Psalm 121,and it's not just about melooking up to the mountains
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- and it's not just about melooking up to the mountainsas if that's where my help
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- looking up to the mountainsas if that's where my helpis coming from.
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- as if that's where my helpis coming from.Unpack that a little bit
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- is coming from.Unpack that a little bitabout what David
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- in that song of a sense.
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- in that song of a sense.David: You know what,
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- in that song of a sense.David: You know what,Sheila, we often have
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- David: You know what,Sheila, we often havemisinterpreted that Psalm.
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- Sheila, we often havemisinterpreted that Psalm.If you really look at it
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- misinterpreted that Psalm.If you really look at itand study it,
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- If you really look at itand study it,David is looking for help
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- and study it,David is looking for helpand he looks up
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- David is looking for helpand he looks upat the mountains
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- that his help isn't coming
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- that his help isn't comingfrom the mountains.
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- from the mountains.We usually have interpreted
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- We usually have interpretedthat verse that says,
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- that verse that says,I look to the mountains
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- I look to the mountainsfrom whence comes my help
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- from whence comes my helpbut that's not the way it is.
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- to the mountains period.
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- to the mountains period.Then he asks the question,
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- to the mountains period.Then he asks the question,where does my help come from?
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- Then he asks the question,where does my help come from?It's not coming from within.
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- where does my help come from?It's not coming from within.And then he realize
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- It's not coming from within.And then he realizehis help is from God.
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- And then he realizehis help is from God.That Psalm has such
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- his help is from God.That Psalm has sucha special place in my heart
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- That Psalm has sucha special place in my heartbecause a great piece of music
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- as you know.
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- as you know.And when I came back
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- as you know.And when I came backfrom cancer 20 years ago,
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- And when I came backfrom cancer 20 years ago,that song was sung
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- from cancer 20 years ago,that song was sungin the first service
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- that song was sungin the first servicewhen I came back.
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- in the first servicewhen I came back.And I remember the strain
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- when I came back.And I remember the strainin that song that went,
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- And I remember the strainin that song that went,"You are the source
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- in that song that went,"You are the sourceof my strength.
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- "You are the sourceof my strength.You are the strength
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- I had experienced that
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- I had experienced thatso much.
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- I had experienced thatso much.And I'll tell you what,
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- so much.And I'll tell you what,I don't know why but
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- And I'll tell you what,I don't know why butevery time I hear that now
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- I don't know why butevery time I hear that nowI start to cry
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- every time I hear that nowI start to crybecause that's what I did
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- I start to crybecause that's what I didthe first time,
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- because that's what I didthe first time,just to be reminded.
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- the first time,just to be reminded.And that's what happened
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- He looked around,
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- He looked around,he looked up
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- He looked around,he looked upand then he realized,
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- he looked upand then he realized,God, you are the source
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- and then he realized,God, you are the sourceof my strength.
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- God, you are the sourceof my strength.You are the strength
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- of my strength.You are the strengthof my life.
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- You are the strengthof my life.SHEILA: Beautiful!
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- of my life.SHEILA: Beautiful!How does your book
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- SHEILA: Beautiful!How does your bookShelter in God
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- How does your bookShelter in Godhelp people seek
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- Shelter in Godhelp people seekGod's presence
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- help people seekGod's presencewhen they're in a dark place?
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- God's presencewhen they're in a dark place?David: Well,
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- when they're in a dark place?David: Well,a lot of people think that
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- David: Well,a lot of people think thatwhen they're in a dark place
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- a lot of people think thatwhen they're in a dark placethat means God is absent
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- when they're in a dark placethat means God is absentand that's just not true.
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- When we go through trouble...
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- When we go through trouble...Let's speak to it
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- When we go through trouble...Let's speak to itas if we're Christians now,
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- Let's speak to itas if we're Christians now,when we go through trouble
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- as if we're Christians now,when we go through troublewhat happens is
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- when we go through troublewhat happens iswe feel the presence of God.
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- what happens iswe feel the presence of God.And we say to our pastor,
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- we feel the presence of God.And we say to our pastor,"You know what, Pastor,
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- And we say to our pastor,"You know what, Pastor,when I went through that,
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- "You know what, Pastor,when I went through that,when I lost my husband,
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- when I went through that,when I lost my husband,I never felt God's presence
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- when I lost my husband,I never felt God's presencelike I did then.
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- I never felt God's presencelike I did then.He drew so close to me
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- like I did then.He drew so close to meduring that time."
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- He drew so close to meduring that time."Well, to be theological
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- during that time."Well, to be theologicalabout it, God doesn't --
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- Well, to be theologicalabout it, God doesn't --he doesn't get closer to us
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- about it, God doesn't --he doesn't get closer to usat any one time
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- he doesn't get closer to usat any one timethan any other.
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- at any one timethan any other.He's always close to us.
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- than any other.He's always close to us.But trouble makes us aware
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- He's always close to us.But trouble makes us awareof his presence
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- But trouble makes us awareof his presenceand that's what happened.
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- of his presenceand that's what happened.And so the Psalms
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- and that's what happened.And so the Psalmsare like that.
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- And so the Psalmsare like that.David takes us through
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- are like that.David takes us throughthe routine
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- David takes us throughthe routineof what he's going through
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- the routineof what he's going throughand then all of a sudden
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- of what he's going throughand then all of a suddenin the midst of it all,
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- and then all of a suddenin the midst of it all,he realizes he is not alone.
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- I think you and I feel like
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- I think you and I feel likewhen we read the Psalms.
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- I think you and I feel likewhen we read the Psalms.We walk with David
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- when we read the Psalms.We walk with Davidand we can identify
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- We walk with Davidand we can identifywith his problems
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- and we can identifywith his problemsand then all at once
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- with his problemsand then all at oncehe has that moment
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- and then all at oncehe has that momentwhen he realizes,
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- he has that momentwhen he realizes,oh but, God, you're here.
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- when he realizes,oh but, God, you're here.I'm not alone.
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- oh but, God, you're here.I'm not alone.What a message of hope
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- I'm not alone.What a message of hopethat is for us,
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- What a message of hopethat is for us,especially in times like this.
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- that is for us,especially in times like this.SHEILA: I think
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- especially in times like this.SHEILA: I thinkone of the things
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- SHEILA: I thinkone of the thingsI found so encouraging about
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- one of the thingsI found so encouraging aboutthat we write about
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- I found so encouraging aboutthat we write aboutthe Psalms is the Psalms,
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- that we write aboutthe Psalms is the Psalms,it's almost like
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- the Psalms is the Psalms,it's almost likea gymnasium for the soul.
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- it's almost likea gymnasium for the soul.It's like
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- a gymnasium for the soul.It's likeyou get to be honest.
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- It's likeyou get to be honest.You start with where you are.
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- you get to be honest.You start with where you are.You don't... Because
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- You start with where you are.You don't... BecauseI actually got a comment
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- You don't... BecauseI actually got a commenton one of my facebook posts.
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- I actually got a commenton one of my facebook posts.I talked about the fact
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- on one of my facebook posts.I talked about the factthat that morning I felt
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- I talked about the factthat that morning I feltdiscouraged and anxious.
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- that that morning I feltdiscouraged and anxious.And somebody
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- discouraged and anxious.And somebodykind of rebuked me
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- And somebodykind of rebuked meand said,
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- kind of rebuked meand said,"You should not be doing that
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- and said,"You should not be doing thatif your trust is in God."
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- "You should not be doing thatif your trust is in God."So let me throw that back
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- if your trust is in God."So let me throw that backat you.
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- So let me throw that backat you.Is it a sin
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- at you.Is it a sinto be discouraged?
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- Is it a sinto be discouraged?David: You know,
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- to be discouraged?David: You know,a lot of people
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- David: You know,a lot of peoplehave said that,
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- a lot of peoplehave said that,and especially not just
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- have said that,and especially not justdiscouraged, depression,
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- and especially not justdiscouraged, depression,I've read over the years
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- discouraged, depression,I've read over the yearsseveral people, some people
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- I've read over the yearsseveral people, some peopleyou'd be surprised
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- several people, some peopleyou'd be surprisedto hear their name
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- you'd be surprisedto hear their nameactually say
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- to hear their nameactually saydepression is sin
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- you're away from God.
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- you're away from God.The problem with that is
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- you're away from God.The problem with that ismany prominent believers
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- went through depression
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- went through depressionand there is not
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- and there is nota word in there
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- a word in thereabout depression
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- about depressionseparating them from God.
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- it drew them to God.
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- it drew them to God.David was in the cave
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- it drew them to God.David was in the cavehe said,
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- David was in the cavehe said,"My soul is depressed."
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- he said,"My soul is depressed."He uses the word
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- "My soul is depressed."He uses the wordfor indentation actually.
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- He uses the wordfor indentation actually.He said, "There is
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- for indentation actually.He said, "There isan indentation in my soul."
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- He said, "There isan indentation in my soul."And in the midst of that,
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- an indentation in my soul."And in the midst of that,David finds
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- He finds
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- He findsthat God is sufficient.
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- He findsthat God is sufficient.You know, Sheila,
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- that God is sufficient.You know, Sheila,you and I have
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- You know, Sheila,you and I havetalked about this before
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- you and I havetalked about this beforein previous interviews
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- talked about this beforein previous interviewshow as Christians sometimes
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- in previous interviewshow as Christians sometimeswe get this
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- how as Christians sometimeswe get thislittle Christianese up here
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- we get thislittle Christianese up herethat is so unreal
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- little Christianese up herethat is so unrealand so unrealistic.
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- that is so unrealand so unrealistic.Being a Christian
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- and so unrealistic.Being a Christiandoesn't mean you stop living
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- Being a Christiandoesn't mean you stop livingin the world.
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- doesn't mean you stop livingin the world.When you're a Christian
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- in the world.When you're a Christianyou keep living
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- When you're a Christianyou keep livingand the magnificent
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- you keep livingand the magnificentdifference is
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- and the magnificentdifference isyou don't live alone anymore.
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- difference isyou don't live alone anymore.You have an ally, you have
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- you don't live alone anymore.You have an ally, you havethe Lord Jesus Christ.
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- You have an ally, you havethe Lord Jesus Christ.He is a friend
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- the Lord Jesus Christ.He is a friendwho sticks closer
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- He is a friendwho sticks closerthan a brother.
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- who sticks closerthan a brother.When I first got to know him
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- than a brother.When I first got to know himhe was my savior
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- When I first got to know himhe was my saviorbut the longer
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- he was my saviorbut the longerI have walked with him
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- but the longerI have walked with himhe's become my friend.
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- I have walked with himhe's become my friend.When I go through
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- he's become my friend.When I go throughthese dark times,
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- When I go throughthese dark times,and we all do, and we have
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- these dark times,and we all do, and we haveissues with our kids
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- and we all do, and we haveissues with our kidsand our grandkids
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- issues with our kidsand our grandkidsand our loved ones
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- and our grandkidsand our loved onesand our friends,
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- and our loved onesand our friends,what would you do without God?
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- and our friends,what would you do without God?I don't know how people
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- what would you do without God?I don't know how peopleget through a time like this
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- I don't know how peopleget through a time like thisif they don't know
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- get through a time like thisif they don't knowthe wonder of God the Father
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- if they don't knowthe wonder of God the Fatherand the presence
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- the wonder of God the Fatherand the presenceof Jesus Christ.
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- and the presenceof Jesus Christ.SHEILA: I've always loved
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- that you unpack it
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- that you unpack itand you tell us what
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- and you tell us whatwas going on at that time,
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- was going on at that time,you have Sennacherib
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- Then you see King Hezekiah
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- Then you see King Hezekiahand it's like
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- Then you see King Hezekiahand it's likethe odds against him
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- and it's likethe odds against himare terrible and yet,
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- the odds against himare terrible and yet,you talk about the way...
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- are terrible and yet,you talk about the way...I found that one
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- you talk about the way...I found that oneof the most encouraging parts
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- David: Well, that Psalm
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- David: Well, that Psalmis the Psalm
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- David: Well, that Psalmis the Psalmthat Martin Luther
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- is the Psalmthat Martin Lutherwas so connected to.
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- that Martin Lutherwas so connected to.He and Philip Melanchthon
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- was so connected to.He and Philip Melanchthonwho were a part
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- He and Philip Melanchthonwho were a partof the reformation,
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- who were a partof the reformation,whenever they would
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- of the reformation,whenever they wouldget discouraged
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- whenever they wouldget discouragedthey would get Psalm 46 out
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- get discouragedthey would get Psalm 46 outand they would
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- When Luther
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- When Lutherwould be depressed,
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- When Lutherwould be depressed,he would say,
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- would be depressed,he would say,"Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.
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- he would say,"Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.We've got to sing it."
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- "Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.We've got to sing it."And they would sing it out.
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- We've got to sing it."And they would sing it out.So "A Mighty Refuge
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- And they would sing it out.So "A Mighty Refugeis our God,"
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- So "A Mighty Refugeis our God,"this great hymn
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- is our God,"this great hymnthat came from Martin Luther,
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- this great hymnthat came from Martin Luther,that's part of that Psalm.
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- that came from Martin Luther,that's part of that Psalm.It's got such great history.
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- that's part of that Psalm.It's got such great history.Like you said,
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- with our souls in ways
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- with our souls in waysthat are hard to understand.
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- with our souls in waysthat are hard to understand.SHEILA: You talk in the book
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- that are hard to understand.SHEILA: You talk in the bookabout journaling.
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- SHEILA: You talk in the bookabout journaling.That was interesting to me
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- about journaling.That was interesting to mebecause I've always been
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- That was interesting to mebecause I've always beenterrible at journaling.
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- because I've always beenterrible at journaling.You talk about that is
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- terrible at journaling.You talk about that isa positive thing to do.
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- You talk about that isa positive thing to do.David: When I was going
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- a positive thing to do.David: When I was goingthrough cancer everybody said
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- David: When I was goingthrough cancer everybody saidyou need to keep track
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- through cancer everybody saidyou need to keep trackof what God is doing in you.
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- you need to keep trackof what God is doing in you.You need to journal.
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- of what God is doing in you.You need to journal.I'll be honest with you.
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- You need to journal.I'll be honest with you.I always thought journaling
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- I'll be honest with you.I always thought journalingwas for women and mystics.
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- I always thought journalingwas for women and mystics.And since I wasn't either one
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- was for women and mystics.And since I wasn't either oneI didn't want to journal.
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- And since I wasn't either oneI didn't want to journal.And then somebody gave me
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- I didn't want to journal.And then somebody gave mea book by Gordon MacDonald
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- And then somebody gave mea book by Gordon MacDonaldand the book was called,
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- a book by Gordon MacDonaldand the book was called,The Life God Blesses .
- 00:12:54.997 --> 00:12:56.131
- and the book was called,The Life God Blesses .And in that book
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- The Life God Blesses .And in that bookGordon talked about
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- And in that bookGordon talked aboutkeeping a journal
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- Gordon talked aboutkeeping a journalin his computer.
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- keeping a journalin his computer.And I thought,
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- in his computer.And I thought,that's pretty manly.
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- And I thought,that's pretty manly.You can do that.
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- that's pretty manly.You can do that.If you do it in your computer,
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- You can do that.If you do it in your computer,it will be fine!
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- I was going through that time
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- I was going through that timeof testing in my life,
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- I was going through that timeof testing in my life,I kept a pretty daily journal
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- of testing in my life,I kept a pretty daily journalof what God was doing.
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- I kept a pretty daily journalof what God was doing.It was very,
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- of what God was doing.It was very,very helpful to me
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- It was very,very helpful to meto write down the things.
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- very helpful to meto write down the things.Sometimes I go back,
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- to write down the things.Sometimes I go back,I haven't kept all of it,
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- and read some of them
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- and read some of themand it reminds me again
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- and it reminds me againhow good God has been to me
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- how grateful I am
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- how grateful I amfor his provision in my life
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- how grateful I amfor his provision in my lifebecause I was
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- for his provision in my lifebecause I wasa pretty sick dude.
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- because you talk about
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- because you talk aboutkind of a shift
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- because you talk aboutkind of a shiftwithin psychiatric treatment
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- kind of a shiftwithin psychiatric treatmentor counseling.
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- within psychiatric treatmentor counseling.That instead of just
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- or counseling.That instead of justrevisiting the past
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- That instead of justrevisiting the pastover and over and reliving
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- revisiting the pastover and over and relivingevery negative thing,
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- over and over and relivingevery negative thing,but to remember
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- every negative thing,but to rememberto actually consciously
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- but to rememberto actually consciouslygo over and over
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- to actually consciouslygo over and overthe good things
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- go over and overthe good thingsthat God has done.
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- the good thingsthat God has done.I'm beginning to do that
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- that God has done.I'm beginning to do thatand I see that it makes
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- I'm beginning to do thatand I see that it makesa significant difference.
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- and I see that it makesa significant difference.David: I have a letter
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- during some of the hard times
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- during some of the hard timesthat we were going through.
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- during some of the hard timesthat we were going through.And this girl wrote me
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- that we were going through.And this girl wrote meand she said,
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- And this girl wrote meand she said,I heard you mention this.
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- and she said,I heard you mention this.She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,
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- I heard you mention this.She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,I made a list of the ten
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- She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,I made a list of the tenmost important things
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- I made a list of the tenmost important thingsGod has done for me
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- most important thingsGod has done for mein my whole life."
- 00:14:22.451 --> 00:14:23.752
- God has done for mein my whole life."She said, "I started out
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- in my whole life."She said, "I started outwith a long list
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- She said, "I started outwith a long listand I got it down
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- with a long listand I got it downto the top 10."
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- and I got it downto the top 10."She says,
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- to the top 10."She says,"I read them every morning
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- She says,"I read them every morningand I am so filled
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- "I read them every morningand I am so filledwith gratitude.
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- and I am so filledwith gratitude.My God has been
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- with gratitude.My God has beenso good to me."
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- My God has beenso good to me."What she was saying is,
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- so good to me."What she was saying is,when you're going through
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- What she was saying is,when you're going throughhard times you lose sight
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- when you're going throughhard times you lose sightof the good times.
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- hard times you lose sightof the good times.When you're experiencing
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- of the good times.When you're experiencingdifficult things you forget
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- When you're experiencingdifficult things you forgetthat God is with you.
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- difficult things you forgetthat God is with you.And one of the reasons
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- that God is with you.And one of the reasonsI wrote that list
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- And one of the reasonsI wrote that listat the beginning of the book
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- I wrote that listat the beginning of the bookwas to remind people
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- at the beginning of the bookwas to remind peoplethat God has always
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- was to remind peoplethat God has alwaysbeen there for his people.
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- that God has alwaysbeen there for his people.And when he puts us
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- been there for his people.And when he puts usin times of sheltering,
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- And when he puts usin times of sheltering,he's always up to something.
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- in times of sheltering,he's always up to something.And if you know that
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- he's always up to something.And if you know thatthat's what God does
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- And if you know thatthat's what God doesand what he has done
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- that's what God doesand what he has donein the past,
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- and what he has donein the past,then you can be encouraged
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- in the past,then you can be encouragedto look for it in the future.
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- then you can be encouragedto look for it in the future.We don't know all that
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- to look for it in the future.We don't know all thatGod is doing right now yet,
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- We don't know all thatGod is doing right now yet,it's too early
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- God is doing right now yet,it's too earlybut we know a lot of things
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- it's too earlybut we know a lot of thingshe's doing.
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- but we know a lot of thingshe's doing.There are some things
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- he's doing.There are some thingsthat probably
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- without the anguish
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- without the anguishof what we've been through.
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- without the anguishof what we've been through.SHEILA: I was talking
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- of what we've been through.SHEILA: I was talkingto some of my son's friends.
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- SHEILA: I was talkingto some of my son's friends.They're all in grad school
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- to some of my son's friends.They're all in grad schoolbut kind of self-isolating
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- They're all in grad schoolbut kind of self-isolatingat the moment.
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- but kind of self-isolatingat the moment.And they were talking
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- at the moment.And they were talkingabout the fact that
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- And they were talkingabout the fact thatwe can't go to the movies,
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- about the fact thatwe can't go to the movies,we can't really go out
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- we can't go to the movies,we can't really go outfor dinner.
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- we can't really go outfor dinner.And you draw this
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- for dinner.And you draw thisinteresting distinction
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- And you draw thisinteresting distinctionin your book between
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- interesting distinctionin your book betweenamusement and pleasure.
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- in your book betweenamusement and pleasure.And perhaps how amusement
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- amusement and pleasure.And perhaps how amusementhas been removed
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- And perhaps how amusementhas been removedbut our pleasure is found,
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- has been removedbut our pleasure is found,you say, in God alone.
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- but our pleasure is found,you say, in God alone.David: Well, amusements
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- you say, in God alone.David: Well, amusementsare what people use
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- David: Well, amusementsare what people useto try to figure out
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- are what people useto try to figure outwhy they don't have
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- to try to figure outwhy they don't haveany pleasure.
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- why they don't haveany pleasure.Amusements are the things,
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- any pleasure.Amusements are the things,what was that book that
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- Amusements are the things,what was that book thatcame out several years ago --
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- what was that book thatcame out several years ago --Amusing Ourselves to Death .
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- came out several years ago --Amusing Ourselves to Death .We try to find something
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- in our heart.
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- in our heart.But the Bible says that
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- in our heart.But the Bible says thatat the right hand of God
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- But the Bible says thatat the right hand of Godare pleasures forever more.
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- at the right hand of Godare pleasures forever more.And when you get to know God
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- are pleasures forever more.And when you get to know Godin the midst of things
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- And when you get to know Godin the midst of thingsthat are challenging,
- 00:16:11.727 --> 00:16:13.462
- in the midst of thingsthat are challenging,it's not that you're
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- that are challenging,it's not that you'rein a giddy mood of laughter
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- it's not that you'rein a giddy mood of laughterbut pleasure
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- in a giddy mood of laughterbut pleasureis the settlement in your soul
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- but pleasureis the settlement in your soulthat God is in charge
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- is the settlement in your soulthat God is in chargeand there is joy
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- that God is in chargeand there is joybecause you know you know him
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- and there is joybecause you know you know himand he's got this
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- because you know you know himand he's got thisall under control.
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- and he's got thisall under control.And whatever happens,
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- all under control.And whatever happens,he knows the end
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- And whatever happens,he knows the endfrom the beginning
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- he knows the endfrom the beginningand you're his.
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- from the beginningand you're his.And you're in his hand
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- and you're his.And you're in his handand he is going to help you
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- And you're in his handand he is going to help youand keep you
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- and he is going to help youand keep youin the midst of it all.
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- and keep youin the midst of it all.That's what pleasure is.
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- The covid-19 pandemic,
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- The covid-19 pandemic,for many, many weeks
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- for many, many weekschurch doors were closed.
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- church doors were closed.But I'm wondering when things
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- as they will,
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- as they will,how do you think
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- as they will,how do you thinkor how do you hope
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- changes?
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- changes?David: Well, you know, Sheila.
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- changes?David: Well, you know, Sheila.We've been working
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- David: Well, you know, Sheila.We've been workingthrough that for a long time
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- We've been workingthrough that for a long timebecause here where I live,
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- through that for a long timebecause here where I live,they keep moving the date.
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- because here where I live,they keep moving the date.When we were
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- they keep moving the date.When we weregoing through this
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- When we weregoing through thisand trying to figure out
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- going through thisand trying to figure outwhen we could open
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- and trying to figure outwhen we could openwe would think it was now
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- when we could openwe would think it was nowand then no, you can't do it.
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- we would think it was nowand then no, you can't do it.And then
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- and then no, you can't do it.And thenthere was a court settlement
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- And thenthere was a court settlementand then the supreme court
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- there was a court settlementand then the supreme courtgot involved.
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- and then the supreme courtgot involved.So we were always
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- got involved.So we were alwaysa little bit ahead
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- So we were alwaysa little bit aheadof where we were going.
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- we would ask ourselves
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- we would ask ourselveshow are things
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- how are thingsgoing to be different?
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- going to be different?Well, of course,
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- Well, of course,just from the standpoint
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- we couldn't take offerings
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- we couldn't take offeringsthe way we used to take them.
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- we couldn't take offeringsthe way we used to take them.We couldn't take communion
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- the way we used to take them.We couldn't take communionthe way we used to take it.
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- We couldn't take communionthe way we used to take it.We couldn't shake hands
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- the way we used to take it.We couldn't shake handsand embrace like we used to.
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- We couldn't shake handsand embrace like we used to.I told people,
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- trying to get you people
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- trying to get you peopleto be cordial
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- trying to get you peopleto be cordialand love each other
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- to be cordialand love each otherand shake hands.
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- and love each otherand shake hands.And now I've got to tell you
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- and shake hands.And now I've got to tell youstop it!
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- And now I've got to tell youstop it!Don't do that anymore!"
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- stop it!Don't do that anymore!"It's really,
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- Don't do that anymore!"It's really,it strips your gears
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- It's really,it strips your gearsright to the core.
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- and what I know will happen,
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- and what I know will happen,really is we will appreciate
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- and what I know will happen,really is we will appreciatethe privilege of being
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- really is we will appreciatethe privilege of beingwith each other
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- the privilege of beingwith each otherlike we never have before.
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- with each otherlike we never have before.We have small groups
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- like we never have before.We have small groupsat Shadow Mountain
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- We have small groupsat Shadow Mountainthat have stayed together
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- I think almost all
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- I think almost allof our small groups,
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- I think almost allof our small groups,they haven't lost touch
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- of our small groups,they haven't lost touchwith each other
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- they haven't lost touchwith each otherbut Zoom isn't everything
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- with each otherbut Zoom isn't everythingit is cracked up to be
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- but Zoom isn't everythingit is cracked up to beand it is not certainly like
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- it is cracked up to beand it is not certainly likebeing with somebody.
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- happen we will treasure
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- happen we will treasureour togetherness
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- our togethernesslike never before --
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- And then I also think
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- And then I also thinkwe have developed
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- And then I also thinkwe have developeda sensitivity to the hurts
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- we have developeda sensitivity to the hurtsand needs of others
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- a sensitivity to the hurtsand needs of othersduring this time
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- and needs of othersduring this timethat we have lost a little bit
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- during this timethat we have lost a little bitbecause we've been
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- that we have lost a little bitbecause we've beenin such good times.
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- because we've beenin such good times.Let's face it.
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- in such good times.Let's face it.Just like
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- Let's face it.Just likethe country's economy
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- Just likethe country's economywas the greatest
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- the country's economywas the greatestit had ever been,
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- was the greatestit had ever been,things in our churches
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- it had ever been,things in our churcheswere great.
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- things in our churcheswere great.We saw growth, we saw
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- were great.We saw growth, we sawso many good things happening.
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- We saw growth, we sawso many good things happening.And then all of the sudden,
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- so many good things happening.And then all of the sudden,it was just shut down
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- And then all of the sudden,it was just shut downtighter than a drum.
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- it was just shut downtighter than a drum.And you have to look around
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- tighter than a drum.And you have to look aroundand realize, okay,
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- And you have to look aroundand realize, okay,the church isn't buildings,
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- and realize, okay,the church isn't buildings,it's not budgets,
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- the church isn't buildings,it's not budgets,it's not programs.
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- it's not budgets,it's not programs.The church
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- it's not programs.The churchis the spirit of God
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- The churchis the spirit of Godliving within people.
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- is the spirit of Godliving within people.And we're going to go back
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- living within people.And we're going to go backto our buildings
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- And we're going to go backto our buildingsand our budgets
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- to our buildingsand our budgetsand our programs
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- and our budgetsand our programsbut I hope we go back
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- and our programsbut I hope we go backto those things realizing
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- but I hope we go backto those things realizingthose are just vehicles
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- to those things realizingthose are just vehiclesthat God has given us
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- those are just vehiclesthat God has given usto do the real work
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- that God has given usto do the real workof the church, which is
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- to do the real workof the church, which isevangelism and worship
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- of the church, which isevangelism and worshipand fellowship and outreach.
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- evangelism and worshipand fellowship and outreach.Those are things
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- and fellowship and outreach.Those are thingsthat are real
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- Those are thingsthat are realand they've survived
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- that are realand they've survivedall of this
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- and they've survivedall of thisthat we've gone through.
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- all of thisthat we've gone through.SHEILA: I'm going to tell you
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- that we've gone through.SHEILA: I'm going to tell youin a minute how you can get
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- SHEILA: I'm going to tell youin a minute how you can geta hold of Dr. Jeremiah's
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- in a minute how you can geta hold of Dr. Jeremiah'sbook, Shelter in God :
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- a hold of Dr. Jeremiah'sbook, Shelter in God :"Your refuge
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- book, Shelter in God :"Your refugein times of trouble."
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- but We made a commitment
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- but We made a commitmentto put in 350 wells.
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- to put in 350 wells.If you and I will
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- If you and I willsimply do our best
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- simply do our bestand ask the Holy Spirit,
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- and ask the Holy Spirit,"What do you want me to do?"
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- "What do you want me to do?"Because I'm not trying
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- Because I'm not tryingto pressure you.
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- to pressure you.All I want to do is
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- All I want to do isshow you the need
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- show you the needSometimes I wish
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- I wish you could actually
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- have got on the plane
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- and sit beside me
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- and we'll land there
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- and we'll get in some kind
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- of vehicle and drive,
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- usually a few hours
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- to get to these villages
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- that are so remote.
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- I wish I could introduce you
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- to these moms
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- because they're
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- just like you and me.
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- So often we think that's
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- the other side of the world.
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- We have nothing in common.
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- That is not true.
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- If you are a mom,
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- if you have a heart,
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- we have everything in common.
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- And so many of these women,
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- the thing that blows me away,
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- so many of these women
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- still trust God
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- and ask him,
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- "Please send help!"
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- And that's us!
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- As long as you and I,
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- the body of Christ
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- are on the earth at this time
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- then this is our --
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- it not our obligation,
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- it is our privilege.
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- So here's what you can do.
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- For $48
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- you can provide clean water
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- for ten people for life.
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- $144 you can provide
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- clean water for 30 people
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- for their life.
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- If you're able to,
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- you can make a commitment,
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- perhaps, even just
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- your little church group
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- or your Sunday school group
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- or whatever,
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- your Bible study,
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- your women's group;
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- $4800 puts a whole well in
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- that will give clean,
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- fresh, life-giving water
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- to 1.000 people.
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- So please go to your phone.
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- Dial that number.
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- Give the best gift you can.
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- Dirty, disease-filledwater --
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- how desperate woulda mother need to be
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- to consider givingthis contaminated substance
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- to her child?
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- For many mothersand their familiesliving in extreme poverty,
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- this is theironly choice.
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- But with your helpthey won't have to makethis choice ever again.
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- Mission: Water for Lifeprovides clean,disease-free water
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- for thousands of childrenand their families
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- giving them a lifefree from the fear of death.
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- With your gift todayyou can help drill
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- and establish350 water wells this year.
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- Your gift of $24will help provide
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- clean waterfor five children.
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- A gift of $48will help provide for ten.
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- $72 will providefor 15.
- 00:22:14.556 --> 00:22:16.792
- And $144 will helpprovide life-giving water
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- for 30 peoplefor a lifetime.
- 00:22:19.861 --> 00:22:22.130
- With your gift, we'll send youSpeak Your Name devotions
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- and declarationson the reality of Jesus.
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- Filled withstunning imagery,
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- these 40 encouraging devotionsby Laney Rene
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- serve as a reminder ofthe power of Jesus' name.
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- With your giftof $100 or more,
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- please requestthe “Be Refreshed” pitcher.
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- Finally, please considera gift of $1200
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- to help provide waterfor 250 people
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- or a gift of $4800 to helpsponsor a complete well.
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- Please call, writeor make your gift online.
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much.
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much.And just remember
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much.And just rememberfor any gift at all
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- And just rememberfor any gift at alljust request your copy
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- for any gift at alljust request your copyof Dr. David Jeremiah's book,
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- just request your copyof Dr. David Jeremiah's book,Shelter in God :
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- of Dr. David Jeremiah's book,Shelter in God :"Your refuge
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- Shelter in God :"Your refugein times of trouble."
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- "Your refugein times of trouble."Dr. Jeremiah, thank you
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- in times of trouble."Dr. Jeremiah, thank youso much for your wisdom,
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- Dr. Jeremiah, thank youso much for your wisdom,for your compassion,
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- so much for your wisdom,for your compassion,for your grace
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- for your compassion,for your graceand thanks for spending time
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- for your graceand thanks for spending timewith us here on Life Today .
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- and thanks for spending timewith us here on Life Today .David: Sheila,
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- with us here on Life Today .David: Sheila,whenever you call, I answer.
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- David: Sheila,whenever you call, I answer.I'm always glad
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- whenever you call, I answer.I'm always gladto talk with you
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- I'm always gladto talk with youabout anything
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- to talk with youabout anythingbecause I know your heart.
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- about anythingbecause I know your heart.It's so wonderful
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- because I know your heart.It's so wonderfulto be a partner with you
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- It's so wonderfulto be a partner with youin ministry.
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- to be a partner with youin ministry.So thank you for having me.
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- in ministry.So thank you for having me.SHEILA: Thank you so much.
- 00:23:40.108 --> 00:23:41.276
- So thank you for having me.SHEILA: Thank you so much.And we'll see you next time
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- ♪ Through you,I can do anything ♪
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- ♪ I can doAll things ♪
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- ♪ 'Cause it's youWho gives me strength ♪
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- ♪ NothingIs impossible ♪
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- ♪ Through you,Blind eyes are opened ♪
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- ♪ StrongholdsAre broken ♪
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- ♪ I am livingBy faith ♪
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- ♪ NothingIs impossible! ♪
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- ♪
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- ♪ I'm not gonna liveBy what I feel ♪
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- ♪ 'Cause deep down I knowThat you're here with me ♪
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- ♪ I know thatYou can do anything ♪
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- ♪ 'Cause it's youWho gives me strength ♪
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- ♪
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- ♪ Sing I believe it ♪
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- ♪ I believe,I believe ♪
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- ♪ I believeI believe in you ♪
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- ♪ Through you,Blind eyes are opened ♪
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- ♪ I am livingBy faith ♪
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