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David Jeremiah | Look to the Mountain

Watch David Jeremiah | Look to the Mountain
January 27, 2021
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The author of “Shelter in God” offers insight on how to have hope in a world that feels hopeless.

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David Jeremiah | Look to the Mountain

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  • - The magnificentdifference is
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  • you don't livealone anymore.
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  • You have an ally.You have the lordJesus Christ.
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  • He's a friendwho sticks closerthan a brother.
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  • When I first got to know himhe was my savior
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  • but the longerI've walked with himhe's become my friend.
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  • Experience hopein a time of uncertainty
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  • by findingshelter in God.
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  • - I don't know how peopleget through a time like this
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  • if they don't knowthe wonder of God the Father
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  • and the presenceof Jesus Christ.
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  • SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .
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  • SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .I'm Sheila Walsh.
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  • SHEILA: Welcome to Life Today .I'm Sheila Walsh.Whenever we walk through
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  • I'm Sheila Walsh.Whenever we walk througha crisis, it always seems
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  • Whenever we walk througha crisis, it always seemsthat history reveals
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  • or women on the scene
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  • or women on the sceneto speak to that to bring
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  • or women on the sceneto speak to that to bringcomfort to the body.
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  • to speak to that to bringcomfort to the body.I certainly know that
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  • comfort to the body.I certainly know thatis true of my friend,
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  • I certainly know thatis true of my friend,Dr. David Jeremiah whose
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  • is true of my friend,Dr. David Jeremiah whosenew book, S helter in God :
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  • Dr. David Jeremiah whosenew book, S helter in God :"Your refuge in times
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  • new book, S helter in God :"Your refuge in timesof trouble" could not
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  • Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!
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  • Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!Thank you so much for being
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  • Dr. Jeremiah, welcome!Thank you so much for beingwith us here on Life Today .
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  • Thank you so much for beingwith us here on Life Today .DAVID: It's really fun
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  • and I'm glad I got the chance.
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  • and I'm glad I got the chance.Sheila Well, thank you.
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  • and I'm glad I got the chance.Sheila Well, thank you.This book was released
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  • during the whole
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  • during the wholecovid-19 crisis
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  • during the wholecovid-19 crisisbut I wanted to ask you
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  • are there other times
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  • are there other timesin world history
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  • when you've had to find
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  • when you've had to findyour Shelter in God ,
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  • when you've had to findyour Shelter in God ,not just
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  • your Shelter in God ,not justthis particular year?
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  • not justthis particular year?DAVID: You can go back
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  • this particular year?DAVID: You can go backin history
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  • DAVID: You can go backin historyand put a circle
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  • in historyand put a circlearound some dates.
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  • and put a circlearound some dates.Like Donna and I were
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  • around some dates.Like Donna and I werein Dallas when
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  • Like Donna and I werein Dallas whenPresident Kennedy was shot.
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  • in Dallas whenPresident Kennedy was shot.I was a student
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  • President Kennedy was shot.I was a studentat Dallas Seminary
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  • I was a studentat Dallas Seminaryat the time.
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  • at Dallas Seminaryat the time.Donna was working
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  • at the time.Donna was workingat the Bluecross building
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  • Donna was workingat the Bluecross buildingand saw the president
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  • at the Bluecross buildingand saw the presidentlike five minutes
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  • and saw the presidentlike five minutesbefore he was shot.
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  • like five minutesbefore he was shot.I was working
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  • before he was shot.I was workingfor the Wall Street Journal
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  • I was workingfor the Wall Street Journalat the time.
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  • for the Wall Street Journalat the time.We were right in the middle
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  • at the time.We were right in the middleof all that.
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  • We were right in the middleof all that.I remember,
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  • of all that.I remember,I'll be honest with you,
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  • I remember,I'll be honest with you,the first thing
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  • I'll be honest with you,the first thingI wanted to do
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  • the first thingI wanted to dowas find a phone someplace
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  • I wanted to dowas find a phone someplaceand call my mom.
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  • was find a phone someplaceand call my mom.I just wanted to call her
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  • I needed somebody
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  • that there was some things
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  • that there was some thingsthat were still okay.
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  • that were still okay.That was
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  • That wasthe most bizarre thing
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  • the most bizarre thingI ever remembered.
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  • 9/11 was another one
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  • 9/11 was another oneof those experiences
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  • 9/11 was another oneof those experienceswhere we all were shocked
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  • of those experienceswhere we all were shockedinto going to church
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  • where we all were shockedinto going to churchthe next week.
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  • into going to churchthe next week.I remember right after that
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  • the next week.I remember right after thatwe had like four weeks
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  • I remember right after thatwe had like four weeksof unbelievable attendances
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  • we had like four weeksof unbelievable attendancesand then everybody
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  • of unbelievable attendancesand then everybodyjust sort of went back
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  • and then everybodyjust sort of went backto normal.
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  • just sort of went backto normal.That was an event
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  • to normal.That was an eventbut what we went through
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  • That was an eventbut what we went throughwith the coronavirus
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  • but what we went throughwith the coronaviruswasn't an event,
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  • with the coronaviruswasn't an event,it was say situation.
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  • wasn't an event,it was say situation.I sort of think,
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  • it was say situation.I sort of think,sometimes I think,
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  • I sort of think,sometimes I think,God said, "Okay,
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  • sometimes I think,God said, "Okay,I'm going to try this.
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  • God said, "Okay,I'm going to try this.Here's an event
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  • I'm going to try this.Here's an eventto shake you up.
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  • Here's an eventto shake you up.And that didn't work so okay,
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  • to shake you up.And that didn't work so okay,here's several weeks
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  • And that didn't work so okay,here's several weeksto shake you up."
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  • here's several weeksto shake you up."And this is far more serious
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  • to shake you up."And this is far more seriousand I think is going
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  • And this is far more seriousand I think is goingto have a much greater impact
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  • and I think is goingto have a much greater impacton a lot of lives
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  • SHEILA: It's interesting
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  • SHEILA: It's interestingbecause when you see
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  • SHEILA: It's interestingbecause when you seeeverything that happened
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  • because when you seeeverything that happenedand then there was all sorts
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  • everything that happenedand then there was all sortsof violence and looting,
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  • and then there was all sortsof violence and looting,and that's still with
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  • of violence and looting,and that's still withthe presence of the church
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  • and that's still withthe presence of the churchon the planet,
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  • the presence of the churchon the planet,that's still
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  • on the planet,that's stillwith the restraint
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  • that's stillwith the restraintof the holy spirit.
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  • with the restraintof the holy spirit.I can only imagine
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  • of the holy spirit.I can only imaginewhen the believers,
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  • I can only imaginewhen the believers,when we're no longer here,
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  • when the believers,when we're no longer here,I can't even imagine
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  • when we're no longer here,I can't even imaginehow devastating
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  • I can't even imaginehow devastatingthis world will be.
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  • how devastatingthis world will be.DAVID: That's a very,
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  • this world will be.DAVID: That's a very,very important insight,
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  • DAVID: That's a very,very important insight,Sheila, because
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  • very important insight,Sheila, becausethe Bible says that one day
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  • Sheila, becausethe Bible says that one dayall of the saints
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  • the Bible says that one dayall of the saintson this earth are going
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  • all of the saintson this earth are goingto be caught up together
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  • on this earth are goingto be caught up togetherto be with the Lord
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  • to be caught up togetherto be with the Lordand so shall we ever be
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  • to be with the Lordand so shall we ever bewith him.
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  • and so shall we ever bewith him.And when they go up
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  • with him.And when they go upthe Holy Spirit is removed
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  • And when they go upthe Holy Spirit is removedbecause the Holy Spirit
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  • the Holy Spirit is removedbecause the Holy Spiritlives within
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  • because the Holy Spiritlives withinthe hearts of believers.
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  • lives withinthe hearts of believers.And the Bible says
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  • the hearts of believers.And the Bible saysthat the Holy Spirit
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  • And the Bible saysthat the Holy Spiritis the restrainer.
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  • that the Holy Spiritis the restrainer.When the restrainer is gone
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  • is the restrainer.When the restrainer is goneand everything
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  • When the restrainer is goneand everythingis totally without
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  • and everythingis totally withoutany restraint whatsoever,
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  • is totally withoutany restraint whatsoever,it's going to be like
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  • any restraint whatsoever,it's going to be likewhat we're going through
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  • it's going to be likewhat we're going throughright now
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  • what we're going throughright nowbut 10, 15, 20 times worse.
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  • right nowbut 10, 15, 20 times worse.And so
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  • but 10, 15, 20 times worse.And soyou're absolutely right.
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  • And soyou're absolutely right.What we're seeing right now
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  • you're absolutely right.What we're seeing right nowis a little view
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  • What we're seeing right nowis a little viewinto what it will be like
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  • is a little viewinto what it will be likeduring the tribulation period
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  • into what it will be likeduring the tribulation periodevery single day
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  • during the tribulation periodevery single dayfor seven years.
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  • every single dayfor seven years.SHEILA: Wow!
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  • for seven years.SHEILA: Wow!It's given me...
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  • SHEILA: Wow!It's given me...I mean my upbringing,
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  • It's given me...I mean my upbringing,I joined Youth for Christ
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  • I mean my upbringing,I joined Youth for Christafter seminary because
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  • I joined Youth for Christafter seminary becausemy passion was for evangelism.
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  • after seminary becausemy passion was for evangelism.But I have to say
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  • my passion was for evangelism.But I have to sayat this stage and day
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  • But I have to sayat this stage and dayit's given me a fresh desire
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  • at this stage and dayit's given me a fresh desireto reach people
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  • it's given me a fresh desireto reach peoplewith the good news of Jesus
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  • to reach peoplewith the good news of Jesuswhile we still can.
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  • with the good news of Jesuswhile we still can.David: Well,
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  • we have a much more
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  • we have a much morelistening audience
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  • listening audiencethat we normally would have.
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  • that we normally would have.I think people are starting
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  • about these things
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  • about these thingsin ways they haven't before.
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  • about these thingsin ways they haven't before.And as it goes on
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  • in ways they haven't before.And as it goes onand as we've lived
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  • And as it goes onand as we've livedthrough all the aftermath
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  • and as we've livedthrough all the aftermathof the death
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  • through all the aftermathof the deathof that young man
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  • of the deathof that young manwho was murdered
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  • of that young manwho was murderedand all the other things
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  • who was murderedand all the other thingsthat happened after that,
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  • and all the other thingsthat happened after that,as we lived through
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  • that happened after that,as we lived throughall of that,
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  • as we lived throughall of that,we were just shaken
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  • all of that,we were just shakento our core.
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  • we were just shakento our core.And we're Christians.
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  • to our core.And we're Christians.Can you imagine
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  • And we're Christians.Can you imaginewhat it would be like
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  • Can you imaginewhat it would be likeif you didn't know
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  • what it would be likeif you didn't knowJesus Christ?
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  • if you didn't knowJesus Christ?If you didn't have anything
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  • Jesus Christ?If you didn't have anythingto lean on or to rest on?
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  • If you didn't have anythingto lean on or to rest on?So yeah, we're in a time
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  • to lean on or to rest on?So yeah, we're in a timewhen the gospel should be
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  • So yeah, we're in a timewhen the gospel should bebearing fruit in ways
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  • when the gospel should bebearing fruit in waysit has not in the past.
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  • Shelter in God ,
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  • Shelter in God ,I love the way
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  • I love the waythat you help us understand
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  • that you help us understandwhat was going on
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  • when he wrote certain psalms.
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  • when he wrote certain psalms.But you also had this --
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  • when he wrote certain psalms.But you also had this --it was almost
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  • But you also had this --it was almosta funny observation
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  • it was almosta funny observationbecause I realized
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  • a funny observationbecause I realizedyou were talking to me.
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  • because I realizedyou were talking to me.You talk about Psalm 121,
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  • you were talking to me.You talk about Psalm 121,and it's not just about me
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  • You talk about Psalm 121,and it's not just about melooking up to the mountains
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  • and it's not just about melooking up to the mountainsas if that's where my help
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  • looking up to the mountainsas if that's where my helpis coming from.
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  • as if that's where my helpis coming from.Unpack that a little bit
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  • is coming from.Unpack that a little bitabout what David
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  • in that song of a sense.
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  • in that song of a sense.David: You know what,
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  • in that song of a sense.David: You know what,Sheila, we often have
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  • David: You know what,Sheila, we often havemisinterpreted that Psalm.
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  • Sheila, we often havemisinterpreted that Psalm.If you really look at it
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  • misinterpreted that Psalm.If you really look at itand study it,
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  • If you really look at itand study it,David is looking for help
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  • and study it,David is looking for helpand he looks up
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  • David is looking for helpand he looks upat the mountains
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  • that his help isn't coming
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  • that his help isn't comingfrom the mountains.
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  • from the mountains.We usually have interpreted
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  • We usually have interpretedthat verse that says,
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  • that verse that says,I look to the mountains
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  • I look to the mountainsfrom whence comes my help
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  • from whence comes my helpbut that's not the way it is.
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  • to the mountains period.
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  • to the mountains period.Then he asks the question,
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  • to the mountains period.Then he asks the question,where does my help come from?
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  • Then he asks the question,where does my help come from?It's not coming from within.
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  • where does my help come from?It's not coming from within.And then he realize
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  • It's not coming from within.And then he realizehis help is from God.
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  • And then he realizehis help is from God.That Psalm has such
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  • his help is from God.That Psalm has sucha special place in my heart
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  • That Psalm has sucha special place in my heartbecause a great piece of music
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  • as you know.
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  • as you know.And when I came back
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  • as you know.And when I came backfrom cancer 20 years ago,
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  • And when I came backfrom cancer 20 years ago,that song was sung
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  • from cancer 20 years ago,that song was sungin the first service
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  • that song was sungin the first servicewhen I came back.
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  • in the first servicewhen I came back.And I remember the strain
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  • when I came back.And I remember the strainin that song that went,
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  • And I remember the strainin that song that went,"You are the source
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  • in that song that went,"You are the sourceof my strength.
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  • "You are the sourceof my strength.You are the strength
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  • I had experienced that
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  • I had experienced thatso much.
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  • I had experienced thatso much.And I'll tell you what,
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  • so much.And I'll tell you what,I don't know why but
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  • And I'll tell you what,I don't know why butevery time I hear that now
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  • I don't know why butevery time I hear that nowI start to cry
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  • every time I hear that nowI start to crybecause that's what I did
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  • I start to crybecause that's what I didthe first time,
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  • because that's what I didthe first time,just to be reminded.
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  • the first time,just to be reminded.And that's what happened
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  • He looked around,
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  • He looked around,he looked up
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  • He looked around,he looked upand then he realized,
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  • he looked upand then he realized,God, you are the source
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  • and then he realized,God, you are the sourceof my strength.
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  • God, you are the sourceof my strength.You are the strength
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  • of my strength.You are the strengthof my life.
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  • You are the strengthof my life.SHEILA: Beautiful!
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  • of my life.SHEILA: Beautiful!How does your book
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  • SHEILA: Beautiful!How does your bookShelter in God
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  • How does your bookShelter in Godhelp people seek
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  • Shelter in Godhelp people seekGod's presence
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  • help people seekGod's presencewhen they're in a dark place?
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  • God's presencewhen they're in a dark place?David: Well,
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  • when they're in a dark place?David: Well,a lot of people think that
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  • David: Well,a lot of people think thatwhen they're in a dark place
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  • a lot of people think thatwhen they're in a dark placethat means God is absent
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  • when they're in a dark placethat means God is absentand that's just not true.
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  • When we go through trouble...
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  • When we go through trouble...Let's speak to it
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  • When we go through trouble...Let's speak to itas if we're Christians now,
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  • Let's speak to itas if we're Christians now,when we go through trouble
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  • as if we're Christians now,when we go through troublewhat happens is
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  • when we go through troublewhat happens iswe feel the presence of God.
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  • what happens iswe feel the presence of God.And we say to our pastor,
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  • we feel the presence of God.And we say to our pastor,"You know what, Pastor,
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  • And we say to our pastor,"You know what, Pastor,when I went through that,
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  • "You know what, Pastor,when I went through that,when I lost my husband,
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  • when I went through that,when I lost my husband,I never felt God's presence
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  • when I lost my husband,I never felt God's presencelike I did then.
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  • I never felt God's presencelike I did then.He drew so close to me
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  • like I did then.He drew so close to meduring that time."
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  • He drew so close to meduring that time."Well, to be theological
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  • during that time."Well, to be theologicalabout it, God doesn't --
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  • Well, to be theologicalabout it, God doesn't --he doesn't get closer to us
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  • about it, God doesn't --he doesn't get closer to usat any one time
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  • he doesn't get closer to usat any one timethan any other.
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  • at any one timethan any other.He's always close to us.
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  • than any other.He's always close to us.But trouble makes us aware
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  • He's always close to us.But trouble makes us awareof his presence
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  • But trouble makes us awareof his presenceand that's what happened.
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  • of his presenceand that's what happened.And so the Psalms
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  • and that's what happened.And so the Psalmsare like that.
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  • And so the Psalmsare like that.David takes us through
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  • are like that.David takes us throughthe routine
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  • David takes us throughthe routineof what he's going through
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  • the routineof what he's going throughand then all of a sudden
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  • of what he's going throughand then all of a suddenin the midst of it all,
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  • and then all of a suddenin the midst of it all,he realizes he is not alone.
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  • I think you and I feel like
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  • I think you and I feel likewhen we read the Psalms.
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  • I think you and I feel likewhen we read the Psalms.We walk with David
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  • when we read the Psalms.We walk with Davidand we can identify
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  • We walk with Davidand we can identifywith his problems
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  • and we can identifywith his problemsand then all at once
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  • with his problemsand then all at oncehe has that moment
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  • and then all at oncehe has that momentwhen he realizes,
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  • he has that momentwhen he realizes,oh but, God, you're here.
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  • when he realizes,oh but, God, you're here.I'm not alone.
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  • oh but, God, you're here.I'm not alone.What a message of hope
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  • I'm not alone.What a message of hopethat is for us,
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  • What a message of hopethat is for us,especially in times like this.
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  • that is for us,especially in times like this.SHEILA: I think
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  • especially in times like this.SHEILA: I thinkone of the things
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  • SHEILA: I thinkone of the thingsI found so encouraging about
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  • one of the thingsI found so encouraging aboutthat we write about
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  • I found so encouraging aboutthat we write aboutthe Psalms is the Psalms,
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  • that we write aboutthe Psalms is the Psalms,it's almost like
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  • the Psalms is the Psalms,it's almost likea gymnasium for the soul.
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  • it's almost likea gymnasium for the soul.It's like
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  • a gymnasium for the soul.It's likeyou get to be honest.
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  • It's likeyou get to be honest.You start with where you are.
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  • you get to be honest.You start with where you are.You don't... Because
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  • You start with where you are.You don't... BecauseI actually got a comment
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  • You don't... BecauseI actually got a commenton one of my facebook posts.
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  • I actually got a commenton one of my facebook posts.I talked about the fact
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  • on one of my facebook posts.I talked about the factthat that morning I felt
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  • I talked about the factthat that morning I feltdiscouraged and anxious.
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  • that that morning I feltdiscouraged and anxious.And somebody
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  • discouraged and anxious.And somebodykind of rebuked me
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  • And somebodykind of rebuked meand said,
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  • kind of rebuked meand said,"You should not be doing that
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  • and said,"You should not be doing thatif your trust is in God."
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  • "You should not be doing thatif your trust is in God."So let me throw that back
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  • if your trust is in God."So let me throw that backat you.
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  • So let me throw that backat you.Is it a sin
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  • at you.Is it a sinto be discouraged?
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  • Is it a sinto be discouraged?David: You know,
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  • to be discouraged?David: You know,a lot of people
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  • David: You know,a lot of peoplehave said that,
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  • a lot of peoplehave said that,and especially not just
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  • have said that,and especially not justdiscouraged, depression,
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  • and especially not justdiscouraged, depression,I've read over the years
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  • discouraged, depression,I've read over the yearsseveral people, some people
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  • I've read over the yearsseveral people, some peopleyou'd be surprised
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  • several people, some peopleyou'd be surprisedto hear their name
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  • you'd be surprisedto hear their nameactually say
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  • to hear their nameactually saydepression is sin
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  • you're away from God.
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  • you're away from God.The problem with that is
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  • you're away from God.The problem with that ismany prominent believers
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  • went through depression
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  • went through depressionand there is not
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  • and there is nota word in there
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  • a word in thereabout depression
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  • about depressionseparating them from God.
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  • it drew them to God.
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  • it drew them to God.David was in the cave
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  • it drew them to God.David was in the cavehe said,
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  • David was in the cavehe said,"My soul is depressed."
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  • he said,"My soul is depressed."He uses the word
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  • "My soul is depressed."He uses the wordfor indentation actually.
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  • He uses the wordfor indentation actually.He said, "There is
  • 00:10:15.771 --> 00:10:17.239
  • for indentation actually.He said, "There isan indentation in my soul."
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  • He said, "There isan indentation in my soul."And in the midst of that,
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  • an indentation in my soul."And in the midst of that,David finds
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  • He finds
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  • He findsthat God is sufficient.
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  • He findsthat God is sufficient.You know, Sheila,
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  • that God is sufficient.You know, Sheila,you and I have
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  • You know, Sheila,you and I havetalked about this before
  • 00:10:31.754 --> 00:10:33.089
  • you and I havetalked about this beforein previous interviews
  • 00:10:33.089 --> 00:10:34.657
  • talked about this beforein previous interviewshow as Christians sometimes
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  • in previous interviewshow as Christians sometimeswe get this
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  • how as Christians sometimeswe get thislittle Christianese up here
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  • we get thislittle Christianese up herethat is so unreal
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  • little Christianese up herethat is so unrealand so unrealistic.
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  • that is so unrealand so unrealistic.Being a Christian
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  • and so unrealistic.Being a Christiandoesn't mean you stop living
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  • Being a Christiandoesn't mean you stop livingin the world.
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  • doesn't mean you stop livingin the world.When you're a Christian
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  • in the world.When you're a Christianyou keep living
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  • When you're a Christianyou keep livingand the magnificent
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  • you keep livingand the magnificentdifference is
  • 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:52.108
  • and the magnificentdifference isyou don't live alone anymore.
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  • difference isyou don't live alone anymore.You have an ally, you have
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  • you don't live alone anymore.You have an ally, you havethe Lord Jesus Christ.
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  • You have an ally, you havethe Lord Jesus Christ.He is a friend
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  • the Lord Jesus Christ.He is a friendwho sticks closer
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  • He is a friendwho sticks closerthan a brother.
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  • who sticks closerthan a brother.When I first got to know him
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  • than a brother.When I first got to know himhe was my savior
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  • When I first got to know himhe was my saviorbut the longer
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  • he was my saviorbut the longerI have walked with him
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  • but the longerI have walked with himhe's become my friend.
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  • I have walked with himhe's become my friend.When I go through
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  • he's become my friend.When I go throughthese dark times,
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  • When I go throughthese dark times,and we all do, and we have
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  • these dark times,and we all do, and we haveissues with our kids
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  • and we all do, and we haveissues with our kidsand our grandkids
  • 00:11:10.626 --> 00:11:11.861
  • issues with our kidsand our grandkidsand our loved ones
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  • and our grandkidsand our loved onesand our friends,
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  • and our loved onesand our friends,what would you do without God?
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  • and our friends,what would you do without God?I don't know how people
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  • what would you do without God?I don't know how peopleget through a time like this
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  • I don't know how peopleget through a time like thisif they don't know
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  • get through a time like thisif they don't knowthe wonder of God the Father
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  • if they don't knowthe wonder of God the Fatherand the presence
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  • the wonder of God the Fatherand the presenceof Jesus Christ.
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  • and the presenceof Jesus Christ.SHEILA: I've always loved
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  • that you unpack it
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  • that you unpack itand you tell us what
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  • and you tell us whatwas going on at that time,
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  • was going on at that time,you have Sennacherib
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  • Then you see King Hezekiah
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  • Then you see King Hezekiahand it's like
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  • Then you see King Hezekiahand it's likethe odds against him
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  • and it's likethe odds against himare terrible and yet,
  • 00:11:41.757 --> 00:11:43.058
  • the odds against himare terrible and yet,you talk about the way...
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  • are terrible and yet,you talk about the way...I found that one
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  • you talk about the way...I found that oneof the most encouraging parts
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  • David: Well, that Psalm
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  • David: Well, that Psalmis the Psalm
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  • David: Well, that Psalmis the Psalmthat Martin Luther
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  • is the Psalmthat Martin Lutherwas so connected to.
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  • that Martin Lutherwas so connected to.He and Philip Melanchthon
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  • was so connected to.He and Philip Melanchthonwho were a part
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  • He and Philip Melanchthonwho were a partof the reformation,
  • 00:11:59.542 --> 00:12:00.676
  • who were a partof the reformation,whenever they would
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  • of the reformation,whenever they wouldget discouraged
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  • whenever they wouldget discouragedthey would get Psalm 46 out
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  • get discouragedthey would get Psalm 46 outand they would
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  • When Luther
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  • When Lutherwould be depressed,
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  • When Lutherwould be depressed,he would say,
  • 00:12:08.317 --> 00:12:09.385
  • would be depressed,he would say,"Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.
  • 00:12:09.385 --> 00:12:10.452
  • he would say,"Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.We've got to sing it."
  • 00:12:10.452 --> 00:12:11.620
  • "Hey, Philip! Get the Psalm.We've got to sing it."And they would sing it out.
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  • We've got to sing it."And they would sing it out.So "A Mighty Refuge
  • 00:12:12.655 --> 00:12:13.689
  • And they would sing it out.So "A Mighty Refugeis our God,"
  • 00:12:13.689 --> 00:12:14.723
  • So "A Mighty Refugeis our God,"this great hymn
  • 00:12:14.723 --> 00:12:15.891
  • is our God,"this great hymnthat came from Martin Luther,
  • 00:12:15.891 --> 00:12:16.959
  • this great hymnthat came from Martin Luther,that's part of that Psalm.
  • 00:12:16.959 --> 00:12:18.160
  • that came from Martin Luther,that's part of that Psalm.It's got such great history.
  • 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:19.461
  • that's part of that Psalm.It's got such great history.Like you said,
  • 00:12:19.461 --> 00:12:20.729
  • with our souls in ways
  • 00:12:22.031 --> 00:12:23.432
  • with our souls in waysthat are hard to understand.
  • 00:12:23.432 --> 00:12:26.235
  • with our souls in waysthat are hard to understand.SHEILA: You talk in the book
  • 00:12:26.235 --> 00:12:28.103
  • that are hard to understand.SHEILA: You talk in the bookabout journaling.
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  • SHEILA: You talk in the bookabout journaling.That was interesting to me
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  • about journaling.That was interesting to mebecause I've always been
  • 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:32.007
  • That was interesting to mebecause I've always beenterrible at journaling.
  • 00:12:32.007 --> 00:12:33.509
  • because I've always beenterrible at journaling.You talk about that is
  • 00:12:33.509 --> 00:12:35.277
  • terrible at journaling.You talk about that isa positive thing to do.
  • 00:12:35.277 --> 00:12:36.846
  • You talk about that isa positive thing to do.David: When I was going
  • 00:12:36.846 --> 00:12:38.080
  • a positive thing to do.David: When I was goingthrough cancer everybody said
  • 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:39.315
  • David: When I was goingthrough cancer everybody saidyou need to keep track
  • 00:12:39.315 --> 00:12:40.516
  • through cancer everybody saidyou need to keep trackof what God is doing in you.
  • 00:12:40.516 --> 00:12:41.684
  • you need to keep trackof what God is doing in you.You need to journal.
  • 00:12:41.684 --> 00:12:42.852
  • of what God is doing in you.You need to journal.I'll be honest with you.
  • 00:12:42.852 --> 00:12:44.019
  • You need to journal.I'll be honest with you.I always thought journaling
  • 00:12:44.019 --> 00:12:45.988
  • I'll be honest with you.I always thought journalingwas for women and mystics.
  • 00:12:45.988 --> 00:12:47.323
  • I always thought journalingwas for women and mystics.And since I wasn't either one
  • 00:12:47.323 --> 00:12:49.058
  • was for women and mystics.And since I wasn't either oneI didn't want to journal.
  • 00:12:49.058 --> 00:12:50.492
  • And since I wasn't either oneI didn't want to journal.And then somebody gave me
  • 00:12:50.492 --> 00:12:52.027
  • I didn't want to journal.And then somebody gave mea book by Gordon MacDonald
  • 00:12:52.027 --> 00:12:53.162
  • And then somebody gave mea book by Gordon MacDonaldand the book was called,
  • 00:12:53.162 --> 00:12:54.997
  • a book by Gordon MacDonaldand the book was called,The Life God Blesses .
  • 00:12:54.997 --> 00:12:56.131
  • and the book was called,The Life God Blesses .And in that book
  • 00:12:56.131 --> 00:12:57.399
  • The Life God Blesses .And in that bookGordon talked about
  • 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:58.534
  • And in that bookGordon talked aboutkeeping a journal
  • 00:12:58.534 --> 00:12:59.668
  • Gordon talked aboutkeeping a journalin his computer.
  • 00:12:59.668 --> 00:13:00.903
  • keeping a journalin his computer.And I thought,
  • 00:13:00.903 --> 00:13:02.137
  • in his computer.And I thought,that's pretty manly.
  • 00:13:02.137 --> 00:13:03.239
  • And I thought,that's pretty manly.You can do that.
  • 00:13:03.239 --> 00:13:04.573
  • that's pretty manly.You can do that.If you do it in your computer,
  • 00:13:04.573 --> 00:13:05.975
  • You can do that.If you do it in your computer,it will be fine!
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  • I was going through that time
  • 00:13:08.978 --> 00:13:10.846
  • I was going through that timeof testing in my life,
  • 00:13:10.846 --> 00:13:13.349
  • I was going through that timeof testing in my life,I kept a pretty daily journal
  • 00:13:13.349 --> 00:13:15.251
  • of testing in my life,I kept a pretty daily journalof what God was doing.
  • 00:13:15.251 --> 00:13:18.087
  • I kept a pretty daily journalof what God was doing.It was very,
  • 00:13:18.087 --> 00:13:20.122
  • of what God was doing.It was very,very helpful to me
  • 00:13:20.122 --> 00:13:22.057
  • It was very,very helpful to meto write down the things.
  • 00:13:22.057 --> 00:13:23.592
  • very helpful to meto write down the things.Sometimes I go back,
  • 00:13:23.592 --> 00:13:25.027
  • to write down the things.Sometimes I go back,I haven't kept all of it,
  • 00:13:25.027 --> 00:13:26.161
  • and read some of them
  • 00:13:27.529 --> 00:13:30.499
  • and read some of themand it reminds me again
  • 00:13:30.499 --> 00:13:32.001
  • and it reminds me againhow good God has been to me
  • 00:13:32.001 --> 00:13:33.235
  • how grateful I am
  • 00:13:34.403 --> 00:13:35.738
  • how grateful I amfor his provision in my life
  • 00:13:35.738 --> 00:13:37.139
  • how grateful I amfor his provision in my lifebecause I was
  • 00:13:37.139 --> 00:13:39.275
  • for his provision in my lifebecause I wasa pretty sick dude.
  • 00:13:39.275 --> 00:13:40.709
  • because you talk about
  • 00:13:42.278 --> 00:13:43.846
  • because you talk aboutkind of a shift
  • 00:13:43.846 --> 00:13:45.214
  • because you talk aboutkind of a shiftwithin psychiatric treatment
  • 00:13:45.214 --> 00:13:46.448
  • kind of a shiftwithin psychiatric treatmentor counseling.
  • 00:13:46.448 --> 00:13:47.950
  • within psychiatric treatmentor counseling.That instead of just
  • 00:13:47.950 --> 00:13:49.151
  • or counseling.That instead of justrevisiting the past
  • 00:13:49.151 --> 00:13:50.419
  • That instead of justrevisiting the pastover and over and reliving
  • 00:13:50.419 --> 00:13:51.854
  • revisiting the pastover and over and relivingevery negative thing,
  • 00:13:51.854 --> 00:13:53.889
  • over and over and relivingevery negative thing,but to remember
  • 00:13:53.889 --> 00:13:55.257
  • every negative thing,but to rememberto actually consciously
  • 00:13:55.257 --> 00:13:56.592
  • but to rememberto actually consciouslygo over and over
  • 00:13:56.592 --> 00:13:58.027
  • to actually consciouslygo over and overthe good things
  • 00:13:58.027 --> 00:13:59.461
  • go over and overthe good thingsthat God has done.
  • 00:13:59.461 --> 00:14:00.629
  • the good thingsthat God has done.I'm beginning to do that
  • 00:14:00.629 --> 00:14:01.997
  • that God has done.I'm beginning to do thatand I see that it makes
  • 00:14:01.997 --> 00:14:03.299
  • I'm beginning to do thatand I see that it makesa significant difference.
  • 00:14:03.299 --> 00:14:04.500
  • and I see that it makesa significant difference.David: I have a letter
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  • during some of the hard times
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  • during some of the hard timesthat we were going through.
  • 00:14:11.073 --> 00:14:12.374
  • during some of the hard timesthat we were going through.And this girl wrote me
  • 00:14:12.374 --> 00:14:13.642
  • that we were going through.And this girl wrote meand she said,
  • 00:14:13.642 --> 00:14:14.977
  • And this girl wrote meand she said,I heard you mention this.
  • 00:14:14.977 --> 00:14:16.278
  • and she said,I heard you mention this.She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,
  • 00:14:16.278 --> 00:14:18.447
  • I heard you mention this.She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,I made a list of the ten
  • 00:14:18.447 --> 00:14:20.082
  • She said, "Dr. Jeremiah,I made a list of the tenmost important things
  • 00:14:20.082 --> 00:14:21.350
  • I made a list of the tenmost important thingsGod has done for me
  • 00:14:21.350 --> 00:14:22.451
  • most important thingsGod has done for mein my whole life."
  • 00:14:22.451 --> 00:14:23.752
  • God has done for mein my whole life."She said, "I started out
  • 00:14:23.752 --> 00:14:24.887
  • in my whole life."She said, "I started outwith a long list
  • 00:14:24.887 --> 00:14:26.188
  • She said, "I started outwith a long listand I got it down
  • 00:14:26.188 --> 00:14:27.589
  • with a long listand I got it downto the top 10."
  • 00:14:27.589 --> 00:14:28.757
  • and I got it downto the top 10."She says,
  • 00:14:28.757 --> 00:14:29.959
  • to the top 10."She says,"I read them every morning
  • 00:14:29.959 --> 00:14:31.193
  • She says,"I read them every morningand I am so filled
  • 00:14:31.193 --> 00:14:32.394
  • "I read them every morningand I am so filledwith gratitude.
  • 00:14:32.394 --> 00:14:33.629
  • and I am so filledwith gratitude.My God has been
  • 00:14:33.629 --> 00:14:34.830
  • with gratitude.My God has beenso good to me."
  • 00:14:34.830 --> 00:14:36.098
  • My God has beenso good to me."What she was saying is,
  • 00:14:36.098 --> 00:14:37.399
  • so good to me."What she was saying is,when you're going through
  • 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:38.567
  • What she was saying is,when you're going throughhard times you lose sight
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  • when you're going throughhard times you lose sightof the good times.
  • 00:14:39.835 --> 00:14:41.003
  • hard times you lose sightof the good times.When you're experiencing
  • 00:14:41.003 --> 00:14:42.304
  • of the good times.When you're experiencingdifficult things you forget
  • 00:14:42.304 --> 00:14:43.572
  • When you're experiencingdifficult things you forgetthat God is with you.
  • 00:14:43.572 --> 00:14:44.907
  • difficult things you forgetthat God is with you.And one of the reasons
  • 00:14:44.907 --> 00:14:46.275
  • that God is with you.And one of the reasonsI wrote that list
  • 00:14:46.275 --> 00:14:47.643
  • And one of the reasonsI wrote that listat the beginning of the book
  • 00:14:47.643 --> 00:14:49.044
  • I wrote that listat the beginning of the bookwas to remind people
  • 00:14:49.044 --> 00:14:50.312
  • at the beginning of the bookwas to remind peoplethat God has always
  • 00:14:50.312 --> 00:14:51.647
  • was to remind peoplethat God has alwaysbeen there for his people.
  • 00:14:51.647 --> 00:14:53.015
  • that God has alwaysbeen there for his people.And when he puts us
  • 00:14:53.015 --> 00:14:54.416
  • been there for his people.And when he puts usin times of sheltering,
  • 00:14:54.416 --> 00:14:55.951
  • And when he puts usin times of sheltering,he's always up to something.
  • 00:14:55.951 --> 00:14:57.453
  • in times of sheltering,he's always up to something.And if you know that
  • 00:14:57.453 --> 00:14:58.921
  • he's always up to something.And if you know thatthat's what God does
  • 00:14:58.921 --> 00:15:00.255
  • And if you know thatthat's what God doesand what he has done
  • 00:15:00.255 --> 00:15:01.557
  • that's what God doesand what he has donein the past,
  • 00:15:01.557 --> 00:15:02.925
  • and what he has donein the past,then you can be encouraged
  • 00:15:02.925 --> 00:15:04.059
  • in the past,then you can be encouragedto look for it in the future.
  • 00:15:04.059 --> 00:15:05.361
  • then you can be encouragedto look for it in the future.We don't know all that
  • 00:15:05.361 --> 00:15:06.795
  • to look for it in the future.We don't know all thatGod is doing right now yet,
  • 00:15:06.795 --> 00:15:08.163
  • We don't know all thatGod is doing right now yet,it's too early
  • 00:15:08.163 --> 00:15:09.531
  • God is doing right now yet,it's too earlybut we know a lot of things
  • 00:15:09.531 --> 00:15:11.100
  • it's too earlybut we know a lot of thingshe's doing.
  • 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:12.434
  • but we know a lot of thingshe's doing.There are some things
  • 00:15:12.434 --> 00:15:13.669
  • he's doing.There are some thingsthat probably
  • 00:15:13.669 --> 00:15:15.104
  • without the anguish
  • 00:15:16.438 --> 00:15:17.806
  • without the anguishof what we've been through.
  • 00:15:17.806 --> 00:15:19.408
  • without the anguishof what we've been through.SHEILA: I was talking
  • 00:15:19.408 --> 00:15:21.010
  • of what we've been through.SHEILA: I was talkingto some of my son's friends.
  • 00:15:21.010 --> 00:15:22.444
  • SHEILA: I was talkingto some of my son's friends.They're all in grad school
  • 00:15:22.444 --> 00:15:23.912
  • to some of my son's friends.They're all in grad schoolbut kind of self-isolating
  • 00:15:23.912 --> 00:15:25.180
  • They're all in grad schoolbut kind of self-isolatingat the moment.
  • 00:15:25.180 --> 00:15:26.448
  • but kind of self-isolatingat the moment.And they were talking
  • 00:15:26.448 --> 00:15:27.583
  • at the moment.And they were talkingabout the fact that
  • 00:15:27.583 --> 00:15:28.717
  • And they were talkingabout the fact thatwe can't go to the movies,
  • 00:15:28.717 --> 00:15:29.918
  • about the fact thatwe can't go to the movies,we can't really go out
  • 00:15:29.918 --> 00:15:31.220
  • we can't go to the movies,we can't really go outfor dinner.
  • 00:15:31.220 --> 00:15:32.388
  • we can't really go outfor dinner.And you draw this
  • 00:15:32.388 --> 00:15:33.555
  • for dinner.And you draw thisinteresting distinction
  • 00:15:33.555 --> 00:15:34.857
  • And you draw thisinteresting distinctionin your book between
  • 00:15:34.857 --> 00:15:36.425
  • interesting distinctionin your book betweenamusement and pleasure.
  • 00:15:36.425 --> 00:15:37.960
  • in your book betweenamusement and pleasure.And perhaps how amusement
  • 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.528
  • amusement and pleasure.And perhaps how amusementhas been removed
  • 00:15:39.528 --> 00:15:41.563
  • And perhaps how amusementhas been removedbut our pleasure is found,
  • 00:15:41.563 --> 00:15:44.366
  • has been removedbut our pleasure is found,you say, in God alone.
  • 00:15:44.366 --> 00:15:45.734
  • but our pleasure is found,you say, in God alone.David: Well, amusements
  • 00:15:45.734 --> 00:15:47.102
  • you say, in God alone.David: Well, amusementsare what people use
  • 00:15:47.102 --> 00:15:48.404
  • David: Well, amusementsare what people useto try to figure out
  • 00:15:48.404 --> 00:15:49.671
  • are what people useto try to figure outwhy they don't have
  • 00:15:49.671 --> 00:15:51.006
  • to try to figure outwhy they don't haveany pleasure.
  • 00:15:51.006 --> 00:15:54.476
  • why they don't haveany pleasure.Amusements are the things,
  • 00:15:54.476 --> 00:15:55.811
  • any pleasure.Amusements are the things,what was that book that
  • 00:15:55.811 --> 00:15:56.979
  • Amusements are the things,what was that book thatcame out several years ago --
  • 00:15:56.979 --> 00:15:58.847
  • what was that book thatcame out several years ago --Amusing Ourselves to Death .
  • 00:15:58.847 --> 00:16:00.682
  • came out several years ago --Amusing Ourselves to Death .We try to find something
  • 00:16:00.682 --> 00:16:02.017
  • in our heart.
  • 00:16:03.419 --> 00:16:04.686
  • in our heart.But the Bible says that
  • 00:16:04.686 --> 00:16:05.988
  • in our heart.But the Bible says thatat the right hand of God
  • 00:16:05.988 --> 00:16:07.256
  • But the Bible says thatat the right hand of Godare pleasures forever more.
  • 00:16:07.256 --> 00:16:08.457
  • at the right hand of Godare pleasures forever more.And when you get to know God
  • 00:16:08.457 --> 00:16:09.825
  • are pleasures forever more.And when you get to know Godin the midst of things
  • 00:16:09.825 --> 00:16:11.727
  • And when you get to know Godin the midst of thingsthat are challenging,
  • 00:16:11.727 --> 00:16:13.462
  • in the midst of thingsthat are challenging,it's not that you're
  • 00:16:13.462 --> 00:16:16.231
  • that are challenging,it's not that you'rein a giddy mood of laughter
  • 00:16:16.231 --> 00:16:18.233
  • it's not that you'rein a giddy mood of laughterbut pleasure
  • 00:16:18.233 --> 00:16:19.568
  • in a giddy mood of laughterbut pleasureis the settlement in your soul
  • 00:16:19.568 --> 00:16:20.903
  • but pleasureis the settlement in your soulthat God is in charge
  • 00:16:20.903 --> 00:16:22.337
  • is the settlement in your soulthat God is in chargeand there is joy
  • 00:16:22.337 --> 00:16:23.906
  • that God is in chargeand there is joybecause you know you know him
  • 00:16:23.906 --> 00:16:25.274
  • and there is joybecause you know you know himand he's got this
  • 00:16:25.274 --> 00:16:26.675
  • because you know you know himand he's got thisall under control.
  • 00:16:26.675 --> 00:16:28.343
  • and he's got thisall under control.And whatever happens,
  • 00:16:28.343 --> 00:16:30.145
  • all under control.And whatever happens,he knows the end
  • 00:16:30.145 --> 00:16:31.580
  • And whatever happens,he knows the endfrom the beginning
  • 00:16:31.580 --> 00:16:32.815
  • he knows the endfrom the beginningand you're his.
  • 00:16:32.815 --> 00:16:34.083
  • from the beginningand you're his.And you're in his hand
  • 00:16:34.083 --> 00:16:35.417
  • and you're his.And you're in his handand he is going to help you
  • 00:16:35.417 --> 00:16:36.785
  • And you're in his handand he is going to help youand keep you
  • 00:16:36.785 --> 00:16:38.153
  • and he is going to help youand keep youin the midst of it all.
  • 00:16:38.153 --> 00:16:39.354
  • and keep youin the midst of it all.That's what pleasure is.
  • 00:16:39.354 --> 00:16:40.656
  • The covid-19 pandemic,
  • 00:16:41.924 --> 00:16:43.358
  • The covid-19 pandemic,for many, many weeks
  • 00:16:43.358 --> 00:16:45.861
  • for many, many weekschurch doors were closed.
  • 00:16:45.861 --> 00:16:47.129
  • church doors were closed.But I'm wondering when things
  • 00:16:47.129 --> 00:16:48.597
  • as they will,
  • 00:16:50.365 --> 00:16:51.800
  • as they will,how do you think
  • 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:53.202
  • as they will,how do you thinkor how do you hope
  • 00:16:53.202 --> 00:16:54.570
  • changes?
  • 00:16:56.071 --> 00:16:58.674
  • changes?David: Well, you know, Sheila.
  • 00:16:58.674 --> 00:17:00.109
  • changes?David: Well, you know, Sheila.We've been working
  • 00:17:00.109 --> 00:17:01.877
  • David: Well, you know, Sheila.We've been workingthrough that for a long time
  • 00:17:01.877 --> 00:17:04.279
  • We've been workingthrough that for a long timebecause here where I live,
  • 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:06.248
  • through that for a long timebecause here where I live,they keep moving the date.
  • 00:17:06.248 --> 00:17:07.816
  • because here where I live,they keep moving the date.When we were
  • 00:17:07.816 --> 00:17:09.151
  • they keep moving the date.When we weregoing through this
  • 00:17:09.151 --> 00:17:10.352
  • When we weregoing through thisand trying to figure out
  • 00:17:10.352 --> 00:17:11.386
  • going through thisand trying to figure outwhen we could open
  • 00:17:11.386 --> 00:17:12.621
  • and trying to figure outwhen we could openwe would think it was now
  • 00:17:12.621 --> 00:17:13.856
  • when we could openwe would think it was nowand then no, you can't do it.
  • 00:17:13.856 --> 00:17:15.023
  • we would think it was nowand then no, you can't do it.And then
  • 00:17:15.023 --> 00:17:16.425
  • and then no, you can't do it.And thenthere was a court settlement
  • 00:17:16.425 --> 00:17:17.759
  • And thenthere was a court settlementand then the supreme court
  • 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:18.994
  • there was a court settlementand then the supreme courtgot involved.
  • 00:17:18.994 --> 00:17:20.295
  • and then the supreme courtgot involved.So we were always
  • 00:17:20.295 --> 00:17:21.563
  • got involved.So we were alwaysa little bit ahead
  • 00:17:21.563 --> 00:17:23.098
  • So we were alwaysa little bit aheadof where we were going.
  • 00:17:23.098 --> 00:17:24.399
  • we would ask ourselves
  • 00:17:25.801 --> 00:17:27.236
  • we would ask ourselveshow are things
  • 00:17:27.236 --> 00:17:28.604
  • how are thingsgoing to be different?
  • 00:17:28.604 --> 00:17:29.972
  • going to be different?Well, of course,
  • 00:17:29.972 --> 00:17:31.440
  • Well, of course,just from the standpoint
  • 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:32.608
  • we couldn't take offerings
  • 00:17:33.909 --> 00:17:35.110
  • we couldn't take offeringsthe way we used to take them.
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:36.512
  • we couldn't take offeringsthe way we used to take them.We couldn't take communion
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  • the way we used to take them.We couldn't take communionthe way we used to take it.
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  • We couldn't take communionthe way we used to take it.We couldn't shake hands
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  • the way we used to take it.We couldn't shake handsand embrace like we used to.
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  • We couldn't shake handsand embrace like we used to.I told people,
  • 00:17:43.051 --> 00:17:44.353
  • trying to get you people
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  • trying to get you peopleto be cordial
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  • trying to get you peopleto be cordialand love each other
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  • to be cordialand love each otherand shake hands.
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  • and love each otherand shake hands.And now I've got to tell you
  • 00:17:50.726 --> 00:17:51.827
  • and shake hands.And now I've got to tell youstop it!
  • 00:17:51.827 --> 00:17:53.028
  • And now I've got to tell youstop it!Don't do that anymore!"
  • 00:17:53.028 --> 00:17:54.229
  • stop it!Don't do that anymore!"It's really,
  • 00:17:54.229 --> 00:17:55.731
  • Don't do that anymore!"It's really,it strips your gears
  • 00:17:55.731 --> 00:17:57.065
  • It's really,it strips your gearsright to the core.
  • 00:17:57.065 --> 00:17:58.367
  • and what I know will happen,
  • 00:17:59.902 --> 00:18:03.105
  • and what I know will happen,really is we will appreciate
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  • and what I know will happen,really is we will appreciatethe privilege of being
  • 00:18:04.306 --> 00:18:05.574
  • really is we will appreciatethe privilege of beingwith each other
  • 00:18:05.574 --> 00:18:07.276
  • the privilege of beingwith each otherlike we never have before.
  • 00:18:07.276 --> 00:18:08.710
  • with each otherlike we never have before.We have small groups
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  • like we never have before.We have small groupsat Shadow Mountain
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  • We have small groupsat Shadow Mountainthat have stayed together
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  • I think almost all
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  • I think almost allof our small groups,
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  • I think almost allof our small groups,they haven't lost touch
  • 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.121
  • of our small groups,they haven't lost touchwith each other
  • 00:18:19.121 --> 00:18:20.722
  • they haven't lost touchwith each otherbut Zoom isn't everything
  • 00:18:20.722 --> 00:18:22.391
  • with each otherbut Zoom isn't everythingit is cracked up to be
  • 00:18:22.391 --> 00:18:23.892
  • but Zoom isn't everythingit is cracked up to beand it is not certainly like
  • 00:18:23.892 --> 00:18:25.460
  • it is cracked up to beand it is not certainly likebeing with somebody.
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  • happen we will treasure
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  • happen we will treasureour togetherness
  • 00:18:29.698 --> 00:18:31.033
  • our togethernesslike never before --
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  • And then I also think
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  • And then I also thinkwe have developed
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  • And then I also thinkwe have developeda sensitivity to the hurts
  • 00:18:41.643 --> 00:18:43.312
  • we have developeda sensitivity to the hurtsand needs of others
  • 00:18:43.312 --> 00:18:44.513
  • a sensitivity to the hurtsand needs of othersduring this time
  • 00:18:44.513 --> 00:18:47.449
  • and needs of othersduring this timethat we have lost a little bit
  • 00:18:47.449 --> 00:18:49.351
  • during this timethat we have lost a little bitbecause we've been
  • 00:18:49.351 --> 00:18:50.619
  • that we have lost a little bitbecause we've beenin such good times.
  • 00:18:50.619 --> 00:18:52.020
  • because we've beenin such good times.Let's face it.
  • 00:18:52.020 --> 00:18:53.288
  • in such good times.Let's face it.Just like
  • 00:18:53.288 --> 00:18:54.623
  • Let's face it.Just likethe country's economy
  • 00:18:54.623 --> 00:18:55.991
  • Just likethe country's economywas the greatest
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  • the country's economywas the greatestit had ever been,
  • 00:18:57.192 --> 00:18:58.493
  • was the greatestit had ever been,things in our churches
  • 00:18:58.493 --> 00:18:59.695
  • it had ever been,things in our churcheswere great.
  • 00:18:59.695 --> 00:19:00.796
  • things in our churcheswere great.We saw growth, we saw
  • 00:19:00.796 --> 00:19:01.930
  • were great.We saw growth, we sawso many good things happening.
  • 00:19:01.930 --> 00:19:03.131
  • We saw growth, we sawso many good things happening.And then all of the sudden,
  • 00:19:03.131 --> 00:19:04.333
  • so many good things happening.And then all of the sudden,it was just shut down
  • 00:19:04.333 --> 00:19:05.500
  • And then all of the sudden,it was just shut downtighter than a drum.
  • 00:19:05.500 --> 00:19:06.702
  • it was just shut downtighter than a drum.And you have to look around
  • 00:19:06.702 --> 00:19:08.003
  • tighter than a drum.And you have to look aroundand realize, okay,
  • 00:19:08.003 --> 00:19:09.304
  • And you have to look aroundand realize, okay,the church isn't buildings,
  • 00:19:09.304 --> 00:19:10.672
  • and realize, okay,the church isn't buildings,it's not budgets,
  • 00:19:10.672 --> 00:19:12.541
  • the church isn't buildings,it's not budgets,it's not programs.
  • 00:19:12.541 --> 00:19:14.042
  • it's not budgets,it's not programs.The church
  • 00:19:14.042 --> 00:19:15.410
  • it's not programs.The churchis the spirit of God
  • 00:19:15.410 --> 00:19:16.578
  • The churchis the spirit of Godliving within people.
  • 00:19:16.578 --> 00:19:17.779
  • is the spirit of Godliving within people.And we're going to go back
  • 00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:18.947
  • living within people.And we're going to go backto our buildings
  • 00:19:18.947 --> 00:19:20.115
  • And we're going to go backto our buildingsand our budgets
  • 00:19:20.115 --> 00:19:21.283
  • to our buildingsand our budgetsand our programs
  • 00:19:21.283 --> 00:19:22.484
  • and our budgetsand our programsbut I hope we go back
  • 00:19:22.484 --> 00:19:23.652
  • and our programsbut I hope we go backto those things realizing
  • 00:19:23.652 --> 00:19:25.153
  • but I hope we go backto those things realizingthose are just vehicles
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  • to those things realizingthose are just vehiclesthat God has given us
  • 00:19:26.521 --> 00:19:27.990
  • those are just vehiclesthat God has given usto do the real work
  • 00:19:27.990 --> 00:19:29.291
  • that God has given usto do the real workof the church, which is
  • 00:19:29.291 --> 00:19:30.559
  • to do the real workof the church, which isevangelism and worship
  • 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.161
  • of the church, which isevangelism and worshipand fellowship and outreach.
  • 00:19:33.161 --> 00:19:34.596
  • evangelism and worshipand fellowship and outreach.Those are things
  • 00:19:34.596 --> 00:19:35.764
  • and fellowship and outreach.Those are thingsthat are real
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  • Those are thingsthat are realand they've survived
  • 00:19:37.032 --> 00:19:38.100
  • that are realand they've survivedall of this
  • 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:39.167
  • and they've survivedall of thisthat we've gone through.
  • 00:19:39.167 --> 00:19:40.569
  • all of thisthat we've gone through.SHEILA: I'm going to tell you
  • 00:19:40.569 --> 00:19:41.637
  • that we've gone through.SHEILA: I'm going to tell youin a minute how you can get
  • 00:19:41.637 --> 00:19:42.738
  • SHEILA: I'm going to tell youin a minute how you can geta hold of Dr. Jeremiah's
  • 00:19:42.738 --> 00:19:44.306
  • in a minute how you can geta hold of Dr. Jeremiah'sbook, Shelter in God :
  • 00:19:44.306 --> 00:19:45.307
  • a hold of Dr. Jeremiah'sbook, Shelter in God :"Your refuge
  • 00:19:45.307 --> 00:19:46.441
  • book, Shelter in God :"Your refugein times of trouble."
  • 00:19:46.441 --> 00:19:47.943
  • but We made a commitment
  • 00:19:49.811 --> 00:19:51.480
  • but We made a commitmentto put in 350 wells.
  • 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:52.814
  • to put in 350 wells.If you and I will
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  • If you and I willsimply do our best
  • 00:19:53.982 --> 00:19:55.183
  • simply do our bestand ask the Holy Spirit,
  • 00:19:55.183 --> 00:19:56.652
  • and ask the Holy Spirit,"What do you want me to do?"
  • 00:19:56.652 --> 00:19:58.053
  • "What do you want me to do?"Because I'm not trying
  • 00:19:58.053 --> 00:19:59.421
  • Because I'm not tryingto pressure you.
  • 00:19:59.421 --> 00:20:00.856
  • to pressure you.All I want to do is
  • 00:20:00.856 --> 00:20:02.591
  • All I want to do isshow you the need
  • 00:20:02.591 --> 00:20:04.026
  • show you the needSometimes I wish
  • 00:20:04.026 --> 00:20:05.994
  • I wish you could actually
  • 00:20:07.529 --> 00:20:08.697
  • have got on the plane
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  • and sit beside me
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  • and we'll land there
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  • and we'll get in some kind
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  • of vehicle and drive,
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  • usually a few hours
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  • to get to these villages
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  • that are so remote.
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  • I wish I could introduce you
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  • to these moms
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  • because they're
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  • just like you and me.
  • 00:20:24.246 --> 00:20:25.480
  • So often we think that's
  • 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:26.748
  • the other side of the world.
  • 00:20:26.748 --> 00:20:27.949
  • We have nothing in common.
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  • That is not true.
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  • If you are a mom,
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  • if you have a heart,
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  • we have everything in common.
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  • And so many of these women,
  • 00:20:34.389 --> 00:20:36.725
  • the thing that blows me away,
  • 00:20:36.725 --> 00:20:37.893
  • so many of these women
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  • still trust God
  • 00:20:40.796 --> 00:20:42.497
  • and ask him,
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  • "Please send help!"
  • 00:20:45.500 --> 00:20:47.302
  • And that's us!
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  • As long as you and I,
  • 00:20:48.770 --> 00:20:50.172
  • the body of Christ
  • 00:20:50.172 --> 00:20:52.541
  • are on the earth at this time
  • 00:20:52.541 --> 00:20:53.942
  • then this is our --
  • 00:20:53.942 --> 00:20:55.277
  • it not our obligation,
  • 00:20:55.277 --> 00:20:56.878
  • it is our privilege.
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  • So here's what you can do.
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  • For $48
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  • you can provide clean water
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  • for ten people for life.
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  • $144 you can provide
  • 00:21:03.385 --> 00:21:05.754
  • clean water for 30 people
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  • for their life.
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  • If you're able to,
  • 00:21:08.256 --> 00:21:09.491
  • you can make a commitment,
  • 00:21:09.491 --> 00:21:10.659
  • perhaps, even just
  • 00:21:10.659 --> 00:21:11.860
  • your little church group
  • 00:21:11.860 --> 00:21:12.994
  • or your Sunday school group
  • 00:21:12.994 --> 00:21:14.262
  • or whatever,
  • 00:21:14.262 --> 00:21:15.464
  • your Bible study,
  • 00:21:15.464 --> 00:21:16.832
  • your women's group;
  • 00:21:16.832 --> 00:21:19.334
  • $4800 puts a whole well in
  • 00:21:19.334 --> 00:21:21.236
  • that will give clean,
  • 00:21:21.236 --> 00:21:23.505
  • fresh, life-giving water
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  • to 1.000 people.
  • 00:21:27.242 --> 00:21:29.344
  • So please go to your phone.
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  • Dial that number.
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  • Give the best gift you can.
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  • Dirty, disease-filledwater --
  • 00:21:36.785 --> 00:21:38.720
  • how desperate woulda mother need to be
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  • to consider givingthis contaminated substance
  • 00:21:41.022 --> 00:21:43.158
  • to her child?
  • 00:21:43.258 --> 00:21:45.160
  • For many mothersand their familiesliving in extreme poverty,
  • 00:21:45.260 --> 00:21:47.929
  • this is theironly choice.
  • 00:21:48.029 --> 00:21:50.165
  • But with your helpthey won't have to makethis choice ever again.
  • 00:21:50.265 --> 00:21:53.468
  • Mission: Water for Lifeprovides clean,disease-free water
  • 00:21:53.568 --> 00:21:57.005
  • for thousands of childrenand their families
  • 00:21:57.105 --> 00:21:59.508
  • giving them a lifefree from the fear of death.
  • 00:21:59.608 --> 00:22:02.511
  • With your gift todayyou can help drill
  • 00:22:02.611 --> 00:22:04.513
  • and establish350 water wells this year.
  • 00:22:04.613 --> 00:22:07.716
  • Your gift of $24will help provide
  • 00:22:07.816 --> 00:22:09.785
  • clean waterfor five children.
  • 00:22:09.885 --> 00:22:11.853
  • A gift of $48will help provide for ten.
  • 00:22:11.953 --> 00:22:14.456
  • $72 will providefor 15.
  • 00:22:14.556 --> 00:22:16.792
  • And $144 will helpprovide life-giving water
  • 00:22:16.892 --> 00:22:19.761
  • for 30 peoplefor a lifetime.
  • 00:22:19.861 --> 00:22:22.130
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  • and declarationson the reality of Jesus.
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  • Filled withstunning imagery,
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  • With your giftof $100 or more,
  • 00:22:35.744 --> 00:22:37.946
  • please requestthe “Be Refreshed” pitcher.
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  • This beautifulceramic pitcher
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  • is decorated withProverbs 11:25
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  • and is sure to makea lovely addition toyour table or home.
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  • Finally, please considera gift of $1200
  • 00:22:48.156 --> 00:22:50.725
  • to help provide waterfor 250 people
  • 00:22:50.826 --> 00:22:53.628
  • or a gift of $4800 to helpsponsor a complete well.
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  • And you may requestour brand-new,
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  • inspiring bronze sculpture,“Divine Servant.”
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  • Please call, writeor make your gift online.
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  • SHEILA: Thank you so much.
  • 00:23:08.477 --> 00:23:09.644
  • SHEILA: Thank you so much.And just remember
  • 00:23:09.644 --> 00:23:10.846
  • SHEILA: Thank you so much.And just rememberfor any gift at all
  • 00:23:10.846 --> 00:23:12.147
  • And just rememberfor any gift at alljust request your copy
  • 00:23:12.147 --> 00:23:13.281
  • for any gift at alljust request your copyof Dr. David Jeremiah's book,
  • 00:23:13.281 --> 00:23:14.683
  • just request your copyof Dr. David Jeremiah's book,Shelter in God :
  • 00:23:14.683 --> 00:23:15.784
  • of Dr. David Jeremiah's book,Shelter in God :"Your refuge
  • 00:23:15.784 --> 00:23:17.118
  • Shelter in God :"Your refugein times of trouble."
  • 00:23:17.118 --> 00:23:18.386
  • "Your refugein times of trouble."Dr. Jeremiah, thank you
  • 00:23:18.386 --> 00:23:19.955
  • in times of trouble."Dr. Jeremiah, thank youso much for your wisdom,
  • 00:23:19.955 --> 00:23:21.256
  • Dr. Jeremiah, thank youso much for your wisdom,for your compassion,
  • 00:23:21.256 --> 00:23:22.724
  • so much for your wisdom,for your compassion,for your grace
  • 00:23:22.724 --> 00:23:24.059
  • for your compassion,for your graceand thanks for spending time
  • 00:23:24.059 --> 00:23:25.327
  • for your graceand thanks for spending timewith us here on Life Today .
  • 00:23:25.327 --> 00:23:26.661
  • and thanks for spending timewith us here on Life Today .David: Sheila,
  • 00:23:26.661 --> 00:23:27.929
  • with us here on Life Today .David: Sheila,whenever you call, I answer.
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  • David: Sheila,whenever you call, I answer.I'm always glad
  • 00:23:29.231 --> 00:23:30.465
  • whenever you call, I answer.I'm always gladto talk with you
  • 00:23:30.465 --> 00:23:31.766
  • I'm always gladto talk with youabout anything
  • 00:23:31.766 --> 00:23:33.168
  • to talk with youabout anythingbecause I know your heart.
  • 00:23:33.168 --> 00:23:34.536
  • about anythingbecause I know your heart.It's so wonderful
  • 00:23:34.536 --> 00:23:36.104
  • because I know your heart.It's so wonderfulto be a partner with you
  • 00:23:36.104 --> 00:23:37.439
  • It's so wonderfulto be a partner with youin ministry.
  • 00:23:37.439 --> 00:23:38.773
  • to be a partner with youin ministry.So thank you for having me.
  • 00:23:38.773 --> 00:23:40.108
  • in ministry.So thank you for having me.SHEILA: Thank you so much.
  • 00:23:40.108 --> 00:23:41.276
  • So thank you for having me.SHEILA: Thank you so much.And we'll see you next time
  • 00:23:41.276 --> 00:23:44.613
  • ♪ Through you,I can do anything ♪
  • 00:23:55.156 --> 00:23:59.494
  • ♪ I can doAll things ♪
  • 00:23:59.594 --> 00:24:02.564
  • ♪ 'Cause it's youWho gives me strength ♪
  • 00:24:02.664 --> 00:24:06.301
  • ♪ NothingIs impossible ♪
  • 00:24:06.401 --> 00:24:08.603
  • ♪ Through you,Blind eyes are opened ♪
  • 00:24:08.703 --> 00:24:12.974
  • ♪ StrongholdsAre broken ♪
  • 00:24:13.074 --> 00:24:16.111
  • ♪ I am livingBy faith ♪
  • 00:24:16.211 --> 00:24:19.915
  • ♪ NothingIs impossible! ♪
  • 00:24:20.015 --> 00:24:22.551
  • 00:24:27.022 --> 00:24:32.761
  • ♪ I'm not gonna liveBy what I see ♪
  • 00:24:35.830 --> 00:24:42.604
  • ♪ I'm not gonna liveBy what I feel ♪
  • 00:24:42.704 --> 00:24:47.008
  • ♪ 'Cause deep down I knowThat you're here with me ♪
  • 00:24:49.177 --> 00:24:54.583
  • ♪ I know thatYou can do anything ♪
  • 00:24:56.084 --> 00:25:01.890
  • ♪ Through you,I can do anything ♪
  • 00:25:01.990 --> 00:25:07.262
  • ♪ I can doAll things ♪
  • 00:25:07.362 --> 00:25:10.198
  • ♪ 'Cause it's youWho gives me strength ♪
  • 00:25:10.298 --> 00:25:13.935
  • ♪ NothingIs impossible ♪
  • 00:25:14.035 --> 00:25:16.171
  • ♪ Through you,Blind eyes are opened ♪
  • 00:25:16.271 --> 00:25:20.675
  • ♪ StrongholdsAre broken ♪
  • 00:25:20.775 --> 00:25:23.712
  • ♪ I am livingBy faith ♪
  • 00:25:23.812 --> 00:25:27.549
  • ♪ NothingIs impossible! ♪
  • 00:25:27.649 --> 00:25:30.185
  • 00:25:32.754 --> 00:25:37.459
  • ♪ Sing I believe it ♪
  • 00:25:41.563 --> 00:25:43.331
  • ♪ I believe,I believe ♪
  • 00:25:43.431 --> 00:25:46.735
  • ♪ I believeI believe in you ♪
  • 00:25:46.835 --> 00:25:50.005
  • ♪ I believe,I believe ♪
  • 00:25:50.105 --> 00:25:53.475
  • ♪ I believeI believe in you ♪
  • 00:25:53.575 --> 00:25:56.811
  • ♪ I believe,I believe ♪
  • 00:25:56.911 --> 00:26:00.148
  • ♪ I believeI believe in you ♪
  • 00:26:00.248 --> 00:26:03.752
  • ♪ I believe,I believe ♪
  • 00:26:03.852 --> 00:26:06.921
  • ♪ I believeI believe in you ♪
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  • ♪ Through you,I can do anything ♪
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