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Kathie Lee Gifford: The Rock, The Road, & The Rabbi

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February 2, 2021
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Discover the roots of our Christian faith in the holy land where it all began.

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Kathie Lee Gifford: The Rock, The Road, & The Rabbi

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  • (air whooshing)
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  • - [Announcer]Tonight on "Praise,"
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  • from Nashville,Tennessee, singer, author,
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  • and award-winning televisionpersonality Kathie Lee Gifford.
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  • And now, Matt and Laurie Crouch!
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  • (Kathie laughing)
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  • - I have never beenmore unnecessary
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  • to be sitting on set.- You're right. Kathy!
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  • - I know, I know! (laughs)
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  • - [Matt] Oh, my God.
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  • What are we talkingabout tonight?
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  • - You know what, I thinkwe're gonna go straight
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  • to what it's allabout, the Word.
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  • "In the beginning was the Word,
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  • and the Word was God, andthe Word was with God,
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  • and nothing wascreated without God,
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  • and everything wascreated with him.
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  • And the Word became fleshand dwelt among us."
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  • That Word has a name,and it's Yeshua.
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  • It's Jesus, andI wrote this book
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  • with this amazing rabbi,Messianic Rabbi Jason Sobel.
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  • - So what we're talkingabout is the Word, okay.
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  • We want to, let mejust run a clip,
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  • and that'll kinda geteverything started.
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  • Let's start with clipone, and that'll set up
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  • kind of this projectthat you're all about.
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  • Watch this.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - Hi, everybody, I'mKathie Lee Gifford,
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  • coming to you from beautiful,beautiful Jerusalem, Israel.
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  • Thank you for joining us.
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  • We're gonna take you ona trip of a lifetime.
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  • In the next six sessions,my friend Rabbi Jason Sobel
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  • and I are going to openup the Scriptures for you.
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  • We're gonna take youall around Israel.
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  • We're gonna get you outtathat pew on Sunday morning.
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  • We're gonna get yououtta Sunday school,
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  • and we are gonna take yououtta Grandma's Bible study,
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  • and we are gonna rock your world
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  • with what you're gonna learnfrom the original Hebrew
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  • in the Old Testamentto the original Greek
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  • in the New Testament.
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  • The Scriptures aregonna come alive to you
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  • as we realize whatthe Bible really says.
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  • There've been so many badtranslations of the Bible,
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  • and it's caused so muchconfusion around the world.
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  • We've gotta get back to whatthe Bible originally said
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  • in order to understandit, in order to apply it
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  • to our lives today.
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  • So come with us for "The Rock,the Road, and the Rabbi."
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  • - Explain the rock.
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  • - The rock is Jesus.
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  • The road is the Holy Land, andthe rabbi is the Scriptures.
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  • - Okay.- The way they're taught
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  • by the rabbis in the originalGreek in the New Testament,
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  • original Hebrew inthe Old Testament.
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  • - So you have a passionto help us make sure
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  • we understand actualScriptures' meaning,
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  • and that's easy to do whenyou have a rabbi friend.
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  • - Well, it's easy todo in today's world.
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  • We can just Google,"What does that word mean
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  • in the original Greek,in the original Hebrew?"
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  • It will blow people'sminds to discover how bad
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  • so many translationsof the Bible are.
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  • Nobody got angrier at thereligiosity of the culture
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  • more than Jesus did at thePharisees and the Sadducees
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  • for doing that very same thing.
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  • - Which one pops to your head?
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  • - Who's your favorite child?
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  • You can't even, I don't,my life Scripture, I think,
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  • is, "I can do allthings through Christ,
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  • who strengthens me,"Philippians 4:13,
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  • but the truth is,somebody just said to me
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  • the other day, "You knowwhat the actual word
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  • in Philippians forthat is in the Greek?"
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  • And I said, "It isn't things?"
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  • They said, "No, it's seasons."
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  • - [Matt] Oh, my goodness.
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  • Isn't that awesome?- I can do all seasons
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  • of my life through Christ.- Good, bad.
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  • - Whatever, throughChrist, who strengthens me.
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  • See, I thought, Idon't know everything.
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  • That's the thrill of beinga student of the Word.
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  • - Yeah.- That's fantastic.
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  • - Isn't that cool?
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  • - Isn't that beautiful?- Yeah.
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  • - Okay, we're in Nashville.
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  • If you just tuned in,this is Kathie Lee.
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  • You know her. We don't haveto explain that to you.
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  • We're talking about this book,
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  • which is kind of a phenomenon.
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  • You know, you were surprised.
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  • - Nobody was moresurprised than I was, yes.
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  • It's, yeah.
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  • - So when you break it down,
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  • what are you reallysaying in this?
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  • What's happening whensomeone gets it and reads it?
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  • - I'm saying that we've been
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  • doing religion,not relationship.
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  • Religion is not what Godever intended for us.
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  • What did he callAbraham? A friend of God.
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  • A friend of God. God wantsus to know him intimately.
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  • He wants us tohave relationship.
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  • When David threw the stone,while the Israelite army
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  • and King Saul werecowering in terror,
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  • why were they doing that,and why was little 12
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  • or 13-year-old David goingdown, getting his stone,
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  • and ready to, "I comebefore you," you know,
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  • "you who have defiedthe God of Israel,"
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  • and what was the differencebetween this little kid
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  • and the ones 40 daysand 40 nights cowering
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  • in front of Goliath?
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  • They had religion.David had relationship.
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  • - Beautiful.- Yeah.
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  • - He knew God intimatelyall those years
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  • as a little shepherd boy.
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  • He'd killed lionsand bears already.
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  • Like, Goliath was(buzzes, blows raspberry)
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  • (Matt laughing)- Yeah, yeah.
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  • - And what we know fromScriptures is it was nothing.
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  • It was a day's workfor little David.
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  • David threw it, knowing thathe already stood in victory
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  • because he had already,always stood in victory.
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  • He knew what his gifts were.
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  • He was committed to usinghis gifts for God's glory.
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  • He was angry,righteously angered,
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  • that somebody woulddefy the God of Israel.
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  • So when Goliath ishit by the stone,
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  • you know, physics tells youthat you would fall backwards,
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  • but he stumbled,and what did he do?
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  • He fell forward.
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  • In ancient times, that means,"I bow to the greater God."
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  • - Wow, beautiful.- Isn't that amazing?
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  • - The truth ofGod's living Word.
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  • That's what KathieLee has lit up to do.
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  • Watch this.
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  • - The 122nd Psalmcontains both a command
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  • and a promise of blessing.
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  • "Pray for the peaceof Jerusalem."
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  • That's the command.
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  • "May they prosper who loveyou," and that's our blessing.
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  • So right now, we'reasking you to bless Israel
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  • by standing with TBN as wepray for the peace of Jerusalem
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  • and continue to proclaimthe truth about this land
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  • and its global significance.
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  • Will you share a gift today?
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  • Say yes with yourgift of support today,
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  • and we'll say, "Thankyou," by sending you
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  • an amazing new bookby Kathie Lee Gifford,
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  • "The Rock, the Road,and the Rabbi."
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  • - This book is sovery special to me
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  • because it chronicles ajourney that caused me
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  • to fall more deeply inlove with the rock, Jesus;
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  • with the road, the landof Israel; and the rabbi,
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  • the Word of God; and itwill do the same for you.
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  • - God has promised to blessthose who bless Israel.
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  • The people of Israel need oursupport now more than ever.
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  • Don't wait. Please, call now.
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  • (air whooshing)
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  • - Lotta people out thereright now think that
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  • 'cause you've grownup in the church.
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  • You don't need tostudy the Bible.
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  • You know this Bible.
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  • You've been going to churchservices all your life.
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  • Let me tell you something:if you don't know the Greek,
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  • I don't mean you have tostudy, to know Greek to know,
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  • to study what itsays in the Greek,
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  • and you don't know the Hebrew,you do not know the Bible.
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  • I didn't, and we went in 2012,and I've been studying it
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  • since I was 12-year-oldlittle girl,
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  • been to Israel since I was 17,
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  • all the time goingto Israel, studying.
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  • I didn't know it untilI started reading it
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  • in its original text.
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  • It is, Jesus wasnot a carpenter.
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  • It's as simple as that.
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  • The Bible, in the NewTestament, where it talks
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  • about what Joseph and Jesusdid before Jesus became a rabbi
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  • when he was 30, saidthat, everybody thinks
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  • he was a carpenter.
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  • Well, that's a bad translationin the King James Version
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  • of English guys who hadnever been to Israel,
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  • didn't know the historyof Israel, and weretrying to please
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  • a different king, aworldly king, King James,
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  • as opposed to our,the King of Kings,
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  • and they said, "Oh, the word
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  • is (speaking foreignlanguage)," T-E-K-T-O-N.
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  • "Well, that's, we know thatmeans architect/builder.
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  • Okay, so all right, he was acarpenter like us in England."
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  • Well, the trouble is, thetrees that are big now
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  • and growing wereliterally planted
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  • since Israel became a nation.
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  • Israel is a desert.
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  • It's a desert, and therewere no buildable trees
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  • in first-century AD.
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  • We know that becauseScripture tells us
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  • that all of the timber for all
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  • of Herod's constructionprojects were taken
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  • from where the cedarsof Lebanon, cut down,
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  • brought into, made into rafts,floated along the Via Maris,
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  • along the Mediterranean sea,that beautiful coastline,
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  • taken down to Joppa, whichis now modern-day Tel Aviv,
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  • taken apart, andthen carried overland
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  • to Herod's variousconstruction sites.
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  • So if Jesus was not a carpenter,
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  • I mean, he worked with balsam.
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  • He worked with sycamore.
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  • He probably worked with olivetrees and making small things,
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  • but that's a craftsmanmore than a, you know.
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  • - It's a whittler.- It's a whittler.
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  • That's right.(Laurie laughing)
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  • Jesus, and this rocked my boat.
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  • This changed mylife, discovering
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  • that Jesus was a stonemason.- Great cornerstone, yeah.
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  • - "Upon this rock, Iwill build my church.
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  • Let the rock thatthe builders rejected
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  • is become the cornerstone.
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  • He who is without sin,cast the first stone."
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  • You'll never readthe Scriptures again,
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  • understanding that Jesus.
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  • - [Matt] Worked with stone.
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  • - Worked with stone, stonyhearts he works with now.
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  • All our stone, hard hearts.
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  • You know, it's thrilling tofind out what it really means.
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  • It set my heart ablazeagain for the Scriptures.
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  • My faith had become stale andlukewarm, like it talks about,
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  • and I said, "Oh, my gosh."
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  • All those thingsthat bothered me
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  • about Scripture,when I read 'em,
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  • I said, "I don't believe that.
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  • Lord, help my unbelief."
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  • Guess what? I was right.
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  • It didn't say that.
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  • You know the story whenJesus curses the fig tree?
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  • - [Matt] Right.
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  • - I never liked that story.
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  • I said, "Jesus, youmade the fig tree.
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  • Why are you cursing it?
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  • You can make it have fruit."
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  • Well, in ancienttimes, different plants
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  • represented different things.
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  • The olive tree, the olivetree represented Judah,
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  • the God's people.
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  • Guess what the figtree represented?
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  • The Pharisees and the Sadducees.
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  • He was cursing thereligious people
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  • because they were not feedingthe people the Word of God.
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  • - [Matt] Isn't that fantastic?
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  • - That's why he cursed it.
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  • So I mean, this kinda stuffjust affirms your faith!
  • 00:10:34.646 --> 00:10:39.084
  • - You know, I just seeyou just lighting a fire,
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  • a light for the Word of God,
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  • to love the Word of God.- That's what I want to do.
  • 00:10:46.057 --> 00:10:47.625
  • - And it's so powerful.
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  • - Okay, let's go toBethlehem with Kathie Lee.
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  • Watch this.
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  • - One of the mostthrilling things
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  • about coming toIsrael, the Holy Land,
  • 00:10:53.364 --> 00:10:55.533
  • and studying inthe rabbinical way,
  • 00:10:55.533 --> 00:10:58.002
  • is discovering just howwrong we've been in the past
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  • about how things actuallywere in the days of Jesus.
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  • Look around here.
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  • We are in Shepherds' Fields,right here in Bethlehem,
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  • and what we used tothink of as a stable,
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  • where maybe Jesus wasborn, was actually a cave,
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  • very much like this one,and perhaps even this one.
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  • This cave is still usedtoday by shepherds here
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  • in Bethlehem, so imaginethe scene of a young girl,
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  • still a virgin, yetready to give birth,
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  • probably not morethan 14 years old,
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  • with her soon-to-be husband,Joseph, standing by,
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  • giving birth in aplace like this.
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  • Not a stable, the way we knowit in the West, but a cave,
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  • the birthing placeof actual sheep
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  • right here in the Holy Land,and why were they born?
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  • Well, the good rabbi's gonnatell us in a little bit,
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  • but the secret isthe Lamb of God
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  • that came to save the worldis like the little lambs
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  • that were born herefor the same purpose,
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  • to be sacrificedjust a few miles away
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  • on the Temple Mountfor the forgiveness
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  • of sin, and outsideare the enemies.
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  • King Herod has heard aboutthis child about to be born,
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  • and he's threatened,he's threatened
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  • that maybe a a realking, 'cause remember,
  • 00:12:13.011 --> 00:12:15.446
  • he called himselfthe king of the Jews,
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  • but Herod wasn't even a Jew.
  • 00:12:17.182 --> 00:12:18.750
  • He was an Edomite from downnear the Dead Sea area.
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  • So he was very, very paranoid.
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  • So he asked his astrologersand everyone else,
  • 00:12:24.422 --> 00:12:26.658
  • his so-called wise men, "Whereis this child to be born?"
  • 00:12:26.658 --> 00:12:30.428
  • And they said, "In thelittle village of Bethlehem,"
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  • which probably only hadabout 100 people in residence
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  • at the time, so we haveso many different ideas
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  • of what it was like, but thisis actually what it was like.
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  • Isn't it so much more funto realize that it was this?
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  • That's the thrill for mein studying in this way.
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  • - Okay, so we are in Nashville.
  • 00:12:48.746 --> 00:12:51.015
  • Kathie Lee, we'retalking about the Word.
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  • Let me tell you oneother story real quick,
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  • and then we're gonnago to Nazareth.
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  • I was in David's tombwith Samuel Smadja,
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  • Jewish believer,Messianic believer,
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  • and he explained something to me
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  • because there wasa curtain dividing,
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  • so the men's side, women's side,
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  • kinda like you seeat the Wailing Wall,
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  • and he explained tome that the Scripture
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  • that said, "Women,be silent in church,"
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  • had nothing to dowith whether they were
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  • on a platform ornot on a platform.
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  • It was that in those days,they were less educated,
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  • and they would oftenask their husbands
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  • through the curtain a question,so they weren't supposed
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  • to ask about the serviceduring the service
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  • through the curtain, but later.
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  • - Yes, take it home,honey, take it home.
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  • - We took that andturned it into a theology
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  • that women, be pastors.- Women should not-
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  • - That's the weirdestthing I've ever heard.
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  • - Let me tell youanother bad one.
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  • First of all, whatthe men have to do.
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  • Men, you know, "love yourwives the way Christ loved
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  • the church and gavehis life for it."
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  • What woman would notbe grateful for a man
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  • who loves her that way?
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  • And then, "Wives, you besubmissive to your husbands."
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  • The word is (speakingforeign language),
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  • H-I-P-P-O-T-A-S-S-O.
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  • It's the only place inall of the Greek world
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  • and the Greek languagewhere it's used this way.
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  • It's the root word of it,is submissive, slavery,
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  • servitude kind of root,but the way it's used there
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  • is completely different.
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  • It means to leandown and lift up.
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  • That's what we're supposedto do for our husbands.
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  • - [Matt] Be supportive of.
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  • - And lovingsupport. Guess what?
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  • That's what we're also supposedto do for our neighbors.
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  • We're to serve andlove one another.
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  • Now, how many marriageshave been destroyed
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  • because, "You are supposedto submit to me."?
  • 00:14:43.795 --> 00:14:46.030
  • - Right.- No!
  • 00:14:46.030 --> 00:14:47.265
  • - Submit, woman!(Laurie laughing)
  • 00:14:47.265 --> 00:14:48.199
  • - Yeah, that'll work with her.
  • 00:14:48.199 --> 00:14:49.567
  • - Yeah, that works, yeah.- I do. (laughs)
  • 00:14:49.567 --> 00:14:50.902
  • - That always works,just, every time.
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  • - 'Cause I knowthe true meaning.
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  • - Oh, my God.
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  • (Matt and Laurie laughing)
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  • - Why don't we justget to the root?
  • 00:14:56.441 --> 00:14:57.909
  • Jesus talks so much about roots,
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  • and in the beginning,and the creation,
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  • it's all, we have togo back, you guys.
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  • We're lost.
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  • We have lost our way,and we have no power
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  • because we've lost our way.
  • 00:15:08.920 --> 00:15:10.388
  • We are quotingScripture at something,
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  • and it's not accurate, sowe don't have the power.
  • 00:15:12.357 --> 00:15:15.960
  • The power is in the Word,and when you're quoting,
  • 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.596
  • "Be gone to that mountain,"and you're not saying it right,
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  • you don't know whatit really means,
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  • that mountain ain't gonna move,and then we get discouraged,
  • 00:15:22.900 --> 00:15:26.270
  • and Satan is the father of lies.
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  • He doesn't want us toknow the Word of God.
  • 00:15:28.940 --> 00:15:31.142
  • You know, and thebattle goes on.
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  • I get all kinds ofhate mail about this,
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  • and, you know, hate, I knowwhere that's coming from.
  • 00:15:34.479 --> 00:15:37.582
  • You can say anythingyou want about.
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  • If it's hateful, I knowright where it came from.
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  • I just pray for you and move on.
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  • Wipe the dust off your feet.
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  • - Let's go toNazareth. Watch this.
  • 00:15:44.389 --> 00:15:45.957
  • - And I didn't realizeuntil I got up here
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  • that not only was Nazarethso close to Megiddo,
  • 00:15:47.892 --> 00:15:51.629
  • the Valley of Megiddo, theJezreel Valley over there,
  • 00:15:51.629 --> 00:15:54.665
  • where Armageddon istalked about so much
  • 00:15:54.665 --> 00:15:56.901
  • in the Book of Revelation,but very close to Nazareth
  • 00:15:56.901 --> 00:16:01.205
  • is the little village of Cana.
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  • It's still there.
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  • - Absolutely.- And tell us
  • 00:16:04.442 --> 00:16:05.476
  • the significance of that.
  • 00:16:05.476 --> 00:16:06.911
  • - So significant, thefirst miracle he does
  • 00:16:06.911 --> 00:16:09.881
  • is the turning thewater into wine,
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  • and the question is of allthe miracles he could've done,
  • 00:16:11.482 --> 00:16:14.552
  • why is that the first miracle?
  • 00:16:14.552 --> 00:16:15.853
  • Well, think aboutit for a moment.
  • 00:16:15.853 --> 00:16:17.188
  • What was the firstmiracle Moses performed
  • 00:16:17.188 --> 00:16:20.224
  • when he came to redeemIsrael out of Egypt?
  • 00:16:20.224 --> 00:16:22.794
  • - He turned the Nile into blood.
  • 00:16:22.794 --> 00:16:24.328
  • - That's right, and so heis the greater than Moses.
  • 00:16:24.328 --> 00:16:26.697
  • - Ah!- Deuteronomy 18:18.
  • 00:16:26.697 --> 00:16:28.800
  • "I'll raise up a prophetlike Moses from your midst."
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  • Moses brought judgment,but Jesus turned the water
  • 00:16:31.702 --> 00:16:35.473
  • into wine because he isthe greater than Moses.
  • 00:16:35.473 --> 00:16:38.309
  • He doesn't come to bring death,
  • 00:16:38.309 --> 00:16:40.011
  • but he came to bring life
  • 00:16:40.011 --> 00:16:41.279
  • that we might have it- And celebration.
  • 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:42.847
  • - more abundantly.(speaking foreign language)
  • 00:16:42.847 --> 00:16:44.782
  • (speaking foreignlanguage), abundant life,
  • 00:16:44.782 --> 00:16:46.384
  • in every aspect.- Abundant, overflowing,
  • 00:16:46.384 --> 00:16:47.618
  • can't be contained.(Jason chuckling)
  • 00:16:47.618 --> 00:16:48.653
  • - That's right.
  • 00:16:48.653 --> 00:16:50.188
  • - Oh, my gosh, and what's thesignificance of the six pots?
  • 00:16:50.188 --> 00:16:52.356
  • 'Cause you say nothing'swasted, and everything,
  • 00:16:52.356 --> 00:16:54.725
  • if it says six, there'sa reason for six.
  • 00:16:54.725 --> 00:16:56.894
  • - Yeah, it's verysignificant because the idea
  • 00:16:56.894 --> 00:16:59.163
  • is that man was createdon the sixth day.
  • 00:16:59.163 --> 00:17:02.433
  • In Jewish thought, hefell on the sixth day.
  • 00:17:02.433 --> 00:17:05.136
  • He lost six things asa result of the fall.
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  • Jesus comes to restoreeverything that we lost,
  • 00:17:08.806 --> 00:17:12.076
  • so he does the firstmiracle with six stone pots
  • 00:17:12.076 --> 00:17:16.147
  • in the same way that when hedies, he dies on the sixth day
  • 00:17:16.147 --> 00:17:20.084
  • because he's restoringthe blessings thatwere lost in Eden.
  • 00:17:20.084 --> 00:17:23.688
  • This is a new creation miracle.
  • 00:17:23.688 --> 00:17:25.656
  • It's symbolic of theoverflow and the blessing
  • 00:17:25.656 --> 00:17:28.759
  • that he brings into our life.
  • 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:30.027
  • (air whooshing)
  • 00:17:30.027 --> 00:17:31.229
  • - Isn't that fun?- I love that.
  • 00:17:31.229 --> 00:17:32.463
  • - Amazing to see- So good.
  • 00:17:32.463 --> 00:17:35.666
  • The places thatScripture talks about.
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  • Visit Israel sometime.
  • 00:17:38.736 --> 00:17:40.071
  • Just get there somehow,
  • 00:17:40.071 --> 00:17:41.205
  • some way.- And study rabbinically
  • 00:17:41.205 --> 00:17:42.507
  • when you get there.
  • 00:17:42.507 --> 00:17:43.975
  • Go with somebody that knowswhat the Scriptures say.
  • 00:17:43.975 --> 00:17:45.443
  • - Okay, I wanna ask you aboutthat phrase right there.
  • 00:17:45.443 --> 00:17:49.080
  • What does studyingrabbinically mean?
  • 00:17:49.080 --> 00:17:52.150
  • - Well, study theway the rabbis do,
  • 00:17:53.351 --> 00:17:55.219
  • which is with the ancient texts.
  • 00:17:55.219 --> 00:17:57.321
  • You know, the twolanguages that God,
  • 00:17:57.321 --> 00:18:01.359
  • in his ultimatesovereignty and wisdom
  • 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:03.594
  • and just perfection, choseto have his Word written
  • 00:18:03.594 --> 00:18:07.532
  • in are Hebrew and Greek.
  • 00:18:07.532 --> 00:18:09.767
  • Of all the existingancient languages today,
  • 00:18:09.767 --> 00:18:13.204
  • the only two that have neverchanged through all of time.
  • 00:18:13.204 --> 00:18:16.140
  • - Hebrew and Greek.- Hebrew and Greek.
  • 00:18:17.341 --> 00:18:18.276
  • - [Matt] Isn't that amazing?
  • 00:18:18.276 --> 00:18:19.744
  • - Hebrew and Greek, of course,they change vernacularly.
  • 00:18:19.744 --> 00:18:21.412
  • That word, you know,colloquially, butthey don't change.
  • 00:18:21.412 --> 00:18:24.916
  • Look at the Dead Sea Scrolls.Isaiah has never changed.
  • 00:18:24.916 --> 00:18:28.619
  • - Okay, when we get toIsrael, a lotta times,
  • 00:18:28.619 --> 00:18:31.689
  • well, most of the time,you say, "Shalom,"
  • 00:18:31.689 --> 00:18:33.357
  • when you see somebody,when you leave.
  • 00:18:33.357 --> 00:18:35.259
  • - Shalom, Mahalo,- Shalom, yeah.
  • 00:18:35.259 --> 00:18:36.594
  • - like in Hawaii.- Right.
  • 00:18:36.594 --> 00:18:38.696
  • Tell us what that means.
  • 00:18:38.696 --> 00:18:40.164
  • - Well, the Biblebasically says,
  • 00:18:40.164 --> 00:18:42.233
  • "In the beginning,"we've said, "the Spirit
  • 00:18:42.233 --> 00:18:45.136
  • of the Lord hoveredover the abyss,"
  • 00:18:45.136 --> 00:18:47.338
  • and that's a goodtranslation, but the actual,
  • 00:18:47.338 --> 00:18:51.108
  • real meaning in theHebrew is the shalom
  • 00:18:51.108 --> 00:18:54.879
  • of God hovered over the chaos.
  • 00:18:54.879 --> 00:18:57.415
  • - [Matt] Oh, my goodness.
  • 00:18:57.415 --> 00:18:58.349
  • - So shalom is not just peace.
  • 00:18:58.349 --> 00:19:00.518
  • That's one qualityof God's nature,
  • 00:19:00.518 --> 00:19:02.987
  • but originally, shalom waseverything we attribute
  • 00:19:02.987 --> 00:19:07.124
  • to God Almighty,Creator, Jehovah Elohim.
  • 00:19:07.124 --> 00:19:09.927
  • It's his righteousness,his peace, his joy,
  • 00:19:09.927 --> 00:19:13.531
  • his forgiveness,his lovingkindness.
  • 00:19:13.531 --> 00:19:17.034
  • - Provision.- His provision,
  • 00:19:17.034 --> 00:19:18.102
  • his every great attribute.
  • 00:19:18.102 --> 00:19:20.671
  • There's so many names forGod because he's everything,
  • 00:19:20.671 --> 00:19:25.643
  • but what it all cameabout to be was shalom,
  • 00:19:26.811 --> 00:19:29.614
  • and that has beenliterally lukewarmed
  • 00:19:29.614 --> 00:19:33.184
  • and diluted downthrough the centuries
  • 00:19:33.184 --> 00:19:35.453
  • to mean, "Hey, havea nice weekend.
  • 00:19:35.453 --> 00:19:38.522
  • (speaking foreign language)."
  • 00:19:38.522 --> 00:19:40.224
  • No, it's everything about God.
  • 00:19:40.224 --> 00:19:42.493
  • - What we're talkingabout is your passion
  • 00:19:42.493 --> 00:19:46.864
  • at this season of your life tobuckle down and write a book.
  • 00:19:46.864 --> 00:19:51.869
  • They're hard to write.
  • 00:19:52.603 --> 00:19:54.071
  • They're difficult to write.- Yes, this one was very
  • 00:19:54.071 --> 00:19:55.406
  • hard to write.- You know, and, you know,
  • 00:19:55.406 --> 00:19:56.941
  • so thank you forwhat you're doing,
  • 00:19:56.941 --> 00:19:59.076
  • your passion- I had to. I was compelled.
  • 00:19:59.076 --> 00:20:00.478
  • I knew I had to.- for doing this is real,
  • 00:20:00.478 --> 00:20:03.080
  • and the information'son the screen.
  • 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:05.650
  • That's how you can get whatwe're talking about right now.
  • 00:20:05.650 --> 00:20:08.486
  • We wanna make itavailable. Watch this.
  • 00:20:08.486 --> 00:20:10.888
  • - The 122nd Psalmcontains both a command
  • 00:20:10.888 --> 00:20:14.091
  • and a promise of blessing.
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  • "Pray for the peaceof Jerusalem."
  • 00:20:15.793 --> 00:20:17.762
  • That's the command.
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  • "May they prosper who loveyou," and that's our blessing.
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  • So right now, we'reasking you to bless Israel
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  • by standing with TBN as wepray for the peace of Jerusalem
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  • and continue toproclaim the truth
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  • about this land and itsglobal significance.
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  • Will you share a gift today?
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  • Say yes with yourgift of support today,
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  • and we'll say, "Thankyou," by sending you
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  • an amazing new bookby Kathie Lee Gifford,
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  • "The Rock, the Road,and the Rabbi."
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  • - This book is sovery special to me
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  • because it chronicles ajourney that caused me
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  • to fall more deeply inlove with the rock, Jesus;
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  • with the road, the landof Israel; and the rabbi,
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  • the Word of God; and itwill do the same for you.
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  • - God has promised to blessthose who bless Israel.
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  • The people of Israel need oursupport now more than ever.
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  • Don't wait. Please call now.
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  • (air whooshing)
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  • - You know, Kathie,there are people watching
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  • that are in thatseason right now
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  • - I know, I know.- of that loneliness
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  • and that broke,- Brokenness.
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  • - and just pray for andminister to them, right,
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  • just take your time.- Okay, Lord Jesus,
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  • we just lift up thefaceless, voiceless people
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  • that are out thereright now, Lord.
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  • We don't know them. You do.
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  • That's all that matters.
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  • You are the God who sees.
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  • You are the God whohears their prayers.
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  • You are the God who not onlyhears them but answers them.
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  • Father, we pray fora great anointing
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  • of your Word todayin this program.
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  • May it touchpeople's lives, Lord.
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  • May it transform them.
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  • We weren't here to entertainanybody today, Lord.
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  • We're here to set peoplefree like you told us to do.
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  • We wanna go to the otherside with you, Lord.
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  • We wanna get outta the boat.
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  • Help us to have the courage,
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  • the (speaking foreign language),
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  • which is where theword Cana comes from.
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  • That's what you gave Joshuaand all of the Israelites
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  • when they went in, theHebrews at the time,
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  • went in to take the land.
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  • Give us (speakingforeign language), Lord,
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  • to take the land, to bringyour shalom, your shalom,
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  • your power to thechaos of the world.
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  • Come, shalom, to the chaos ofthese people's lives, Lord,
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  • the loss, the grief,the addictions,
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  • the loneliness, the brokenness.
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  • Father, you arethe God who heals.
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  • You heal everybit as much today.
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  • You never change.
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  • You're the sameyesterday, today,
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  • and forever, andyou will heal them.
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  • You will heal them ifthey cry out to you.
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  • You will see them, andyou will heal them,
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  • and you will show themgreat and wondrous things
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  • like you did Jeremiah.
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  • Father, you are thesame, and we praise you.
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  • We praise you, our Lord,our God, our Savior,
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  • our (speaking foreignlanguage), Father.
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  • In your holy name, amen.
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  • - (hums) An amazingprogram, when you think
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  • about what we'vebeen attempting to do
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  • is really justkinda uncover truth.
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  • You know, the truth of the Word.
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  • - It sets us free.
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  • - Sets us free.
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  • - Nothing else does.- No.
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  • - Tell people why thisbook makes a difference.
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  • Tell them. Don't tell us.
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  • Tell them why thisbook makes a difference
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  • in their life.- Because it represents
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  • where you're gonnahave your power.
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  • You're walking aroundwith a hair dryer,
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  • and you're havinga bad hair day,
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  • and you keep moaning andgroaning about your bad hair,
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  • but you got what youneed to plug it in
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  • and solve your problems.
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  • I mean, no one's gonnahave a perfect life.
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  • Only Jesus lived a perfect life,
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  • sinless, but lookat the trouble.
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  • He said, "Don't be surprised.
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  • You're gonna havetrouble, and you're gonna
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  • have trouble whenyou follow me."
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  • Don't be afraid. Donot be discouraged.
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  • He is with you.
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  • He loves you, andread these books.
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  • Study, go to the Holy Landif possible, but if not,
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  • watch the oratorios.
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  • Watch people that knowwhat they're talking about.
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  • Test them, test the spiritsand see if it's true,
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  • and then read a newtranslation of the Bible.
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  • Get out of what was the old.
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  • It's not working for you.
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  • Your heart willtell you, but don't
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  • keep quoting badtheology and expecting
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  • good results.- Wow, beautiful.
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  • "The Rock, the Road, and theRabbi," Kathie Lee Gifford
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  • and Rabbi JasonSobel, it is available
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  • by going to all theinformation on the screen.
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  • Get it, and Kathie, thank you.
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  • - Thank you for having me.- Amazing.
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  • - I love you guys so much.
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  • (all laughing)
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  • You let me be crazy. I love it.
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  • - We love you. (smackslips) See you later.
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  • - Love you.- Yeah, bye-bye.
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  • - Shalom!- Shalom, that's awesome.
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  • (energetic rock music)
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