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Kathie Lee Gifford: The Rock, The Road, & The Rabbi

February 2, 2021

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Discover the roots of our Christian faith in the holy land where it all began.

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Kathie Lee Gifford: The Rock, The Road, & The Rabbi

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- [Announcer]Tonight on "Praise,"
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from Nashville,Tennessee, singer, author,
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and award-winning televisionpersonality Kathie Lee Gifford.
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And now, Matt and Laurie Crouch!
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(Kathie laughing)
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- I have never beenmore unnecessary
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to be sitting on set.- You're right. Kathy!
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- I know, I know! (laughs)
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- [Matt] Oh, my God.
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What are we talkingabout tonight?
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- You know what, I thinkwe're gonna go straight
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to what it's allabout, the Word.
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"In the beginning was the Word,
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and the Word was God, andthe Word was with God,
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and nothing wascreated without God,
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and everything wascreated with him.
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And the Word became fleshand dwelt among us."
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That Word has a name,and it's Yeshua.
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It's Jesus, andI wrote this book
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with this amazing rabbi,Messianic Rabbi Jason Sobel.
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- So what we're talkingabout is the Word, okay.
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We want to, let mejust run a clip,
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and that'll kinda geteverything started.
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Let's start with clipone, and that'll set up
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kind of this projectthat you're all about.
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Watch this.
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- Hi, everybody, I'mKathie Lee Gifford,
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coming to you from beautiful,beautiful Jerusalem, Israel.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We're gonna take you ona trip of a lifetime.
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In the next six sessions,my friend Rabbi Jason Sobel
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and I are going to openup the Scriptures for you.
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We're gonna take youall around Israel.
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We're gonna get you outtathat pew on Sunday morning.
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We're gonna get yououtta Sunday school,
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and we are gonna take yououtta Grandma's Bible study,
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and we are gonna rock your world
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with what you're gonna learnfrom the original Hebrew
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in the Old Testamentto the original Greek
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in the New Testament.
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The Scriptures aregonna come alive to you
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as we realize whatthe Bible really says.
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There've been so many badtranslations of the Bible,
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and it's caused so muchconfusion around the world.
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We've gotta get back to whatthe Bible originally said
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in order to understandit, in order to apply it
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to our lives today.
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So come with us for "The Rock,the Road, and the Rabbi."
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- Explain the rock.
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- The rock is Jesus.
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The road is the Holy Land, andthe rabbi is the Scriptures.
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- Okay.- The way they're taught
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by the rabbis in the originalGreek in the New Testament,
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original Hebrew inthe Old Testament.
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- So you have a passionto help us make sure
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we understand actualScriptures' meaning,
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and that's easy to do whenyou have a rabbi friend.
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- Well, it's easy todo in today's world.
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We can just Google,"What does that word mean
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in the original Greek,in the original Hebrew?"
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It will blow people'sminds to discover how bad
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so many translationsof the Bible are.
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Nobody got angrier at thereligiosity of the culture
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more than Jesus did at thePharisees and the Sadducees
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for doing that very same thing.
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- Which one pops to your head?
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- Who's your favorite child?
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You can't even, I don't,my life Scripture, I think,
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is, "I can do allthings through Christ,
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who strengthens me,"Philippians 4:13,
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but the truth is,somebody just said to me
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the other day, "You knowwhat the actual word
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in Philippians forthat is in the Greek?"
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And I said, "It isn't things?"
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They said, "No, it's seasons."
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- [Matt] Oh, my goodness.
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Isn't that awesome?- I can do all seasons
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of my life through Christ.- Good, bad.
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- Whatever, throughChrist, who strengthens me.
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See, I thought, Idon't know everything.
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That's the thrill of beinga student of the Word.
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- Yeah.- That's fantastic.
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- Isn't that cool?
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- Isn't that beautiful?- Yeah.
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- Okay, we're in Nashville.
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If you just tuned in,this is Kathie Lee.
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You know her. We don't haveto explain that to you.
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We're talking about this book,
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which is kind of a phenomenon.
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You know, you were surprised.
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- Nobody was moresurprised than I was, yes.
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It's, yeah.
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- So when you break it down,
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what are you reallysaying in this?
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What's happening whensomeone gets it and reads it?
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- I'm saying that we've been
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doing religion,not relationship.
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Religion is not what Godever intended for us.
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What did he callAbraham? A friend of God.
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A friend of God. God wantsus to know him intimately.
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He wants us tohave relationship.
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When David threw the stone,while the Israelite army
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and King Saul werecowering in terror,
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why were they doing that,and why was little 12
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or 13-year-old David goingdown, getting his stone,
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and ready to, "I comebefore you," you know,
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"you who have defiedthe God of Israel,"
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and what was the differencebetween this little kid
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and the ones 40 daysand 40 nights cowering
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in front of Goliath?
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They had religion.David had relationship.
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- Beautiful.- Yeah.
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- He knew God intimatelyall those years
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as a little shepherd boy.
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He'd killed lionsand bears already.
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Like, Goliath was(buzzes, blows raspberry)
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(Matt laughing)- Yeah, yeah.
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- And what we know fromScriptures is it was nothing.
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It was a day's workfor little David.
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David threw it, knowing thathe already stood in victory
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because he had already,always stood in victory.
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He knew what his gifts were.
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He was committed to usinghis gifts for God's glory.
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He was angry,righteously angered,
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that somebody woulddefy the God of Israel.
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So when Goliath ishit by the stone,
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you know, physics tells youthat you would fall backwards,
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but he stumbled,and what did he do?
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He fell forward.
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In ancient times, that means,"I bow to the greater God."
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- Wow, beautiful.- Isn't that amazing?
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- The truth ofGod's living Word.
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That's what KathieLee has lit up to do.
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Watch this.
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- The 122nd Psalmcontains both a command
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and a promise of blessing.
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"Pray for the peaceof Jerusalem."
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That's the command.
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"May they prosper who loveyou," and that's our blessing.
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So right now, we'reasking you to bless Israel
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by standing with TBN as wepray for the peace of Jerusalem
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and continue to proclaimthe truth about this land
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and its global significance.
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Will you share a gift today?
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Say yes with yourgift of support today,
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and we'll say, "Thankyou," by sending you
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an amazing new bookby Kathie Lee Gifford,
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"The Rock, the Road,and the Rabbi."
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- This book is sovery special to me
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because it chronicles ajourney that caused me
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to fall more deeply inlove with the rock, Jesus;
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with the road, the landof Israel; and the rabbi,
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the Word of God; and itwill do the same for you.
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- God has promised to blessthose who bless Israel.
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The people of Israel need oursupport now more than ever.
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Don't wait. Please, call now.
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(air whooshing)
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- Lotta people out thereright now think that
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'cause you've grownup in the church.
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You don't need tostudy the Bible.
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You know this Bible.
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You've been going to churchservices all your life.
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Let me tell you something:if you don't know the Greek,
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I don't mean you have tostudy, to know Greek to know,
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to study what itsays in the Greek,
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and you don't know the Hebrew,you do not know the Bible.
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I didn't, and we went in 2012,and I've been studying it
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since I was 12-year-oldlittle girl,
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been to Israel since I was 17,
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all the time goingto Israel, studying.
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I didn't know it untilI started reading it
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in its original text.
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It is, Jesus wasnot a carpenter.
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It's as simple as that.
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The Bible, in the NewTestament, where it talks
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about what Joseph and Jesusdid before Jesus became a rabbi
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when he was 30, saidthat, everybody thinks
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he was a carpenter.
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Well, that's a bad translationin the King James Version
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of English guys who hadnever been to Israel,
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didn't know the historyof Israel, and weretrying to please
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a different king, aworldly king, King James,
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as opposed to our,the King of Kings,
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and they said, "Oh, the word
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is (speaking foreignlanguage)," T-E-K-T-O-N.
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"Well, that's, we know thatmeans architect/builder.
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Okay, so all right, he was acarpenter like us in England."
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Well, the trouble is, thetrees that are big now
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and growing wereliterally planted
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since Israel became a nation.
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Israel is a desert.
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It's a desert, and therewere no buildable trees
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in first-century AD.
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We know that becauseScripture tells us
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that all of the timber for all
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of Herod's constructionprojects were taken
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from where the cedarsof Lebanon, cut down,
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brought into, made into rafts,floated along the Via Maris,
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along the Mediterranean sea,that beautiful coastline,
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taken down to Joppa, whichis now modern-day Tel Aviv,
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taken apart, andthen carried overland
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to Herod's variousconstruction sites.
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So if Jesus was not a carpenter,
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I mean, he worked with balsam.
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He worked with sycamore.
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He probably worked with olivetrees and making small things,
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but that's a craftsmanmore than a, you know.
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- It's a whittler.- It's a whittler.
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That's right.(Laurie laughing)
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Jesus, and this rocked my boat.
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This changed mylife, discovering
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that Jesus was a stonemason.- Great cornerstone, yeah.
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- "Upon this rock, Iwill build my church.
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Let the rock thatthe builders rejected
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is become the cornerstone.
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He who is without sin,cast the first stone."
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You'll never readthe Scriptures again,
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understanding that Jesus.
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- [Matt] Worked with stone.
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- Worked with stone, stonyhearts he works with now.
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All our stone, hard hearts.
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You know, it's thrilling tofind out what it really means.
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It set my heart ablazeagain for the Scriptures.
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My faith had become stale andlukewarm, like it talks about,
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and I said, "Oh, my gosh."
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All those thingsthat bothered me
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about Scripture,when I read 'em,
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I said, "I don't believe that.
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Lord, help my unbelief."
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Guess what? I was right.
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It didn't say that.
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You know the story whenJesus curses the fig tree?
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- [Matt] Right.
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- I never liked that story.
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I said, "Jesus, youmade the fig tree.
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Why are you cursing it?
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You can make it have fruit."
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Well, in ancienttimes, different plants
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represented different things.
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The olive tree, the olivetree represented Judah,
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the God's people.
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Guess what the figtree represented?
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The Pharisees and the Sadducees.
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He was cursing thereligious people
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because they were not feedingthe people the Word of God.
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- [Matt] Isn't that fantastic?
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- That's why he cursed it.
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So I mean, this kinda stuffjust affirms your faith!
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- You know, I just seeyou just lighting a fire,
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a light for the Word of God,
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to love the Word of God.- That's what I want to do.
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- And it's so powerful.
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- Okay, let's go toBethlehem with Kathie Lee.
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Watch this.
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- One of the mostthrilling things
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about coming toIsrael, the Holy Land,
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and studying inthe rabbinical way,
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is discovering just howwrong we've been in the past
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about how things actuallywere in the days of Jesus.
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Look around here.
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We are in Shepherds' Fields,right here in Bethlehem,
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and what we used tothink of as a stable,
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where maybe Jesus wasborn, was actually a cave,
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very much like this one,and perhaps even this one.
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This cave is still usedtoday by shepherds here
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in Bethlehem, so imaginethe scene of a young girl,
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still a virgin, yetready to give birth,
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probably not morethan 14 years old,
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with her soon-to-be husband,Joseph, standing by,
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giving birth in aplace like this.
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Not a stable, the way we knowit in the West, but a cave,
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the birthing placeof actual sheep
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right here in the Holy Land,and why were they born?
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Well, the good rabbi's gonnatell us in a little bit,
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but the secret isthe Lamb of God
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that came to save the worldis like the little lambs
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that were born herefor the same purpose,
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to be sacrificedjust a few miles away
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on the Temple Mountfor the forgiveness
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of sin, and outsideare the enemies.
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King Herod has heard aboutthis child about to be born,
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and he's threatened,he's threatened
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that maybe a a realking, 'cause remember,
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he called himselfthe king of the Jews,
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but Herod wasn't even a Jew.
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He was an Edomite from downnear the Dead Sea area.
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So he was very, very paranoid.
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So he asked his astrologersand everyone else,
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his so-called wise men, "Whereis this child to be born?"
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And they said, "In thelittle village of Bethlehem,"
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which probably only hadabout 100 people in residence
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at the time, so we haveso many different ideas
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of what it was like, but thisis actually what it was like.
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Isn't it so much more funto realize that it was this?
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That's the thrill for mein studying in this way.
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- Okay, so we are in Nashville.
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Kathie Lee, we'retalking about the Word.
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Let me tell you oneother story real quick,
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and then we're gonnago to Nazareth.
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I was in David's tombwith Samuel Smadja,
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Jewish believer,Messianic believer,
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and he explained something to me
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because there wasa curtain dividing,
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so the men's side, women's side,
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kinda like you seeat the Wailing Wall,
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and he explained tome that the Scripture
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that said, "Women,be silent in church,"
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had nothing to dowith whether they were
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on a platform ornot on a platform.
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It was that in those days,they were less educated,
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and they would oftenask their husbands
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through the curtain a question,so they weren't supposed
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to ask about the serviceduring the service
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through the curtain, but later.
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- Yes, take it home,honey, take it home.
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- We took that andturned it into a theology
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that women, be pastors.- Women should not-
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- That's the weirdestthing I've ever heard.
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- Let me tell youanother bad one.
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First of all, whatthe men have to do.
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Men, you know, "love yourwives the way Christ loved
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the church and gavehis life for it."
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What woman would notbe grateful for a man
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who loves her that way?
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And then, "Wives, you besubmissive to your husbands."
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The word is (speakingforeign language),
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H-I-P-P-O-T-A-S-S-O.
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It's the only place inall of the Greek world
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and the Greek languagewhere it's used this way.
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It's the root word of it,is submissive, slavery,
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servitude kind of root,but the way it's used there
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is completely different.
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It means to leandown and lift up.
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That's what we're supposedto do for our husbands.
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- [Matt] Be supportive of.
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- And lovingsupport. Guess what?
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That's what we're also supposedto do for our neighbors.
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We're to serve andlove one another.
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Now, how many marriageshave been destroyed
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because, "You are supposedto submit to me."?
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- Right.- No!
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- Submit, woman!(Laurie laughing)
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- Yeah, that'll work with her.
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- Yeah, that works, yeah.- I do. (laughs)
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- That always works,just, every time.
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- 'Cause I knowthe true meaning.
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- Oh, my God.
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(Matt and Laurie laughing)
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- Why don't we justget to the root?
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Jesus talks so much about roots,
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and in the beginning,and the creation,
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it's all, we have togo back, you guys.
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We're lost.
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We have lost our way,and we have no power
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because we've lost our way.
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We are quotingScripture at something,
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and it's not accurate, sowe don't have the power.
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The power is in the Word,and when you're quoting,
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"Be gone to that mountain,"and you're not saying it right,
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you don't know whatit really means,
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that mountain ain't gonna move,and then we get discouraged,
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and Satan is the father of lies.
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He doesn't want us toknow the Word of God.
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You know, and thebattle goes on.
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I get all kinds ofhate mail about this,
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and, you know, hate, I knowwhere that's coming from.
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You can say anythingyou want about.
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If it's hateful, I knowright where it came from.
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I just pray for you and move on.
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Wipe the dust off your feet.
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- Let's go toNazareth. Watch this.
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- And I didn't realizeuntil I got up here
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that not only was Nazarethso close to Megiddo,
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the Valley of Megiddo, theJezreel Valley over there,
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where Armageddon istalked about so much
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in the Book of Revelation,but very close to Nazareth
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is the little village of Cana.
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It's still there.
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- Absolutely.- And tell us
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the significance of that.
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- So significant, thefirst miracle he does
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is the turning thewater into wine,
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and the question is of allthe miracles he could've done,
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why is that the first miracle?
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Well, think aboutit for a moment.
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What was the firstmiracle Moses performed
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when he came to redeemIsrael out of Egypt?
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- He turned the Nile into blood.
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- That's right, and so heis the greater than Moses.
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- Ah!- Deuteronomy 18:18.
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"I'll raise up a prophetlike Moses from your midst."
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Moses brought judgment,but Jesus turned the water
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into wine because he isthe greater than Moses.
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He doesn't come to bring death,
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but he came to bring life
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that we might have it- And celebration.
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- more abundantly.(speaking foreign language)
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(speaking foreignlanguage), abundant life,
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in every aspect.- Abundant, overflowing,
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can't be contained.(Jason chuckling)
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- That's right.
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- Oh, my gosh, and what's thesignificance of the six pots?
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'Cause you say nothing'swasted, and everything,
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if it says six, there'sa reason for six.
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- Yeah, it's verysignificant because the idea
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is that man was createdon the sixth day.
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In Jewish thought, hefell on the sixth day.
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He lost six things asa result of the fall.
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Jesus comes to restoreeverything that we lost,
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so he does the firstmiracle with six stone pots
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in the same way that when hedies, he dies on the sixth day
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because he's restoringthe blessings thatwere lost in Eden.
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This is a new creation miracle.
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It's symbolic of theoverflow and the blessing
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that he brings into our life.
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(air whooshing)
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- Isn't that fun?- I love that.
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- Amazing to see- So good.
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The places thatScripture talks about.
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Visit Israel sometime.
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Just get there somehow,
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some way.- And study rabbinically
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when you get there.
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Go with somebody that knowswhat the Scriptures say.
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- Okay, I wanna ask you aboutthat phrase right there.
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What does studyingrabbinically mean?
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- Well, study theway the rabbis do,
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which is with the ancient texts.
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You know, the twolanguages that God,
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in his ultimatesovereignty and wisdom
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and just perfection, choseto have his Word written
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in are Hebrew and Greek.
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Of all the existingancient languages today,
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the only two that have neverchanged through all of time.
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- Hebrew and Greek.- Hebrew and Greek.
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- [Matt] Isn't that amazing?
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- Hebrew and Greek, of course,they change vernacularly.
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That word, you know,colloquially, butthey don't change.
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Look at the Dead Sea Scrolls.Isaiah has never changed.
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- Okay, when we get toIsrael, a lotta times,
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well, most of the time,you say, "Shalom,"
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when you see somebody,when you leave.
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- Shalom, Mahalo,- Shalom, yeah.
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- like in Hawaii.- Right.
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Tell us what that means.
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- Well, the Biblebasically says,
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"In the beginning,"we've said, "the Spirit
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of the Lord hoveredover the abyss,"
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and that's a goodtranslation, but the actual,
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real meaning in theHebrew is the shalom
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of God hovered over the chaos.
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- [Matt] Oh, my goodness.
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- So shalom is not just peace.
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That's one qualityof God's nature,
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but originally, shalom waseverything we attribute
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to God Almighty,Creator, Jehovah Elohim.
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It's his righteousness,his peace, his joy,
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his forgiveness,his lovingkindness.
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- Provision.- His provision,
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his every great attribute.
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There's so many names forGod because he's everything,
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but what it all cameabout to be was shalom,
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and that has beenliterally lukewarmed
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and diluted downthrough the centuries
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to mean, "Hey, havea nice weekend.
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(speaking foreign language)."
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No, it's everything about God.
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- What we're talkingabout is your passion
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at this season of your life tobuckle down and write a book.
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They're hard to write.
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They're difficult to write.- Yes, this one was very
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hard to write.- You know, and, you know,
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so thank you forwhat you're doing,
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your passion- I had to. I was compelled.
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I knew I had to.- for doing this is real,
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and the information'son the screen.
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That's how you can get whatwe're talking about right now.
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We wanna make itavailable. Watch this.
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- The 122nd Psalmcontains both a command
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and a promise of blessing.
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"Pray for the peaceof Jerusalem."
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That's the command.
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"May they prosper who loveyou," and that's our blessing.
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So right now, we'reasking you to bless Israel
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by standing with TBN as wepray for the peace of Jerusalem
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and continue toproclaim the truth
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about this land and itsglobal significance.
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Will you share a gift today?
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Say yes with yourgift of support today,
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and we'll say, "Thankyou," by sending you
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an amazing new bookby Kathie Lee Gifford,
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"The Rock, the Road,and the Rabbi."
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- This book is sovery special to me
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because it chronicles ajourney that caused me
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to fall more deeply inlove with the rock, Jesus;
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with the road, the landof Israel; and the rabbi,
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the Word of God; and itwill do the same for you.
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- God has promised to blessthose who bless Israel.
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The people of Israel need oursupport now more than ever.
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Don't wait. Please call now.
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(air whooshing)
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- You know, Kathie,there are people watching
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that are in thatseason right now
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- I know, I know.- of that loneliness
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and that broke,- Brokenness.
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- and just pray for andminister to them, right,
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just take your time.- Okay, Lord Jesus,
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we just lift up thefaceless, voiceless people
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that are out thereright now, Lord.
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We don't know them. You do.
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That's all that matters.
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You are the God who sees.
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You are the God whohears their prayers.
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You are the God who not onlyhears them but answers them.
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Father, we pray fora great anointing
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of your Word todayin this program.
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May it touchpeople's lives, Lord.
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May it transform them.
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We weren't here to entertainanybody today, Lord.
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We're here to set peoplefree like you told us to do.
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We wanna go to the otherside with you, Lord.
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We wanna get outta the boat.
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Help us to have the courage,
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the (speaking foreign language),
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which is where theword Cana comes from.
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That's what you gave Joshuaand all of the Israelites
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when they went in, theHebrews at the time,
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went in to take the land.
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Give us (speakingforeign language), Lord,
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to take the land, to bringyour shalom, your shalom,
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your power to thechaos of the world.
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Come, shalom, to the chaos ofthese people's lives, Lord,
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the loss, the grief,the addictions,
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the loneliness, the brokenness.
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Father, you arethe God who heals.
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You heal everybit as much today.
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You never change.
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You're the sameyesterday, today,
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and forever, andyou will heal them.
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You will heal them ifthey cry out to you.
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You will see them, andyou will heal them,
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and you will show themgreat and wondrous things
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like you did Jeremiah.
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Father, you are thesame, and we praise you.
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We praise you, our Lord,our God, our Savior,
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our (speaking foreignlanguage), Father.
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In your holy name, amen.
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- (hums) An amazingprogram, when you think
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about what we'vebeen attempting to do
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is really justkinda uncover truth.
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You know, the truth of the Word.
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- It sets us free.
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- Sets us free.
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- Nothing else does.- No.
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- Tell people why thisbook makes a difference.
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Tell them. Don't tell us.
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Tell them why thisbook makes a difference
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in their life.- Because it represents
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where you're gonnahave your power.
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You're walking aroundwith a hair dryer,
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and you're havinga bad hair day,
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and you keep moaning andgroaning about your bad hair,
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but you got what youneed to plug it in
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and solve your problems.
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I mean, no one's gonnahave a perfect life.
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Only Jesus lived a perfect life,
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sinless, but lookat the trouble.
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He said, "Don't be surprised.
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You're gonna havetrouble, and you're gonna
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have trouble whenyou follow me."
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Don't be afraid. Donot be discouraged.
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He is with you.
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He loves you, andread these books.
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Study, go to the Holy Landif possible, but if not,
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watch the oratorios.
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Watch people that knowwhat they're talking about.
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Test them, test the spiritsand see if it's true,
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and then read a newtranslation of the Bible.
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Get out of what was the old.
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It's not working for you.
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Your heart willtell you, but don't
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keep quoting badtheology and expecting
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good results.- Wow, beautiful.
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"The Rock, the Road, and theRabbi," Kathie Lee Gifford
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and Rabbi JasonSobel, it is available
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by going to all theinformation on the screen.
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Get it, and Kathie, thank you.
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- Thank you for having me.- Amazing.
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- I love you guys so much.
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(all laughing)
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You let me be crazy. I love it.
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- We love you. (smackslips) See you later.
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- Love you.- Yeah, bye-bye.
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- Shalom!- Shalom, that's awesome.
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(energetic rock music)
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