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Episode 10 | Health

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November 6, 2018
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Jesus the Game Changer

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Episode 10 | Health

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  • or in Europe have names like The Good Samaritan
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  • or Saint Anthony's or Saint Andrew's,
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  • that's not a coincidence.
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  • The connection between healing
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  • and these monastic communities and followers of Jesus
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  • is a very deep one.
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  • (upbeat techno music)
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  • - In Western nations, we're used to our larger social
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  • institutions being a part of government.
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  • We're not used to them being private organizations.
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  • This is Saint Vincent's Hospital.
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  • It's part of the Saint Vincent's Health Group,
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  • one of the largest health groups in our nation.
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  • It's a very well-known hospital.
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  • What people don't know is the origins of this hospital.
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  • This hospital was started just down the road.
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  • It was started by The Sisters of Charity.
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  • And they started at Potts Point
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  • and their whole motivation was to, in fact,
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  • look after the poor of Sydney.
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  • Now that's not unusual.
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  • That's happened across the world,
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  • whether it's hospitals, schools for children,
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  • universities, or welfare organizations.
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  • They weren't started by governments
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  • just concerned for their people.
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  • They're often started by Christians and churches
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  • who are motivated by the teaching and the life of Jesus.
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  • (soft piano music)
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  • So Toby, give us a picture of the size
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  • and the scope of Saint Vincent's Health.
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  • - So we operate with 28 facilities across Australia
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  • with 18.000 people and our turnover's just over 2 billion.
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  • And in context, we're the second largest
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  • health provider in Australia
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  • and actually the largest non-profit organization.
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  • The Sisters set up the first private hospital in Australia.
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  • And they did it deliberately because back in those days,
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  • doctors actually worked for free.
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  • So in the public system, doctors didn't get paid.
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  • And they wanted a way that the doctors
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  • could earn a living to serve the poor.
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  • And so the easiest way of doing that was
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  • set up a private hospital.
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  • And so they set up the first private hospital
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  • to allow the doctors to earn a living.
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  • But the whole purpose was to allow them to serve
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  • the rich and the poor,
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  • but particularly understanding God's ministry
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  • is for everyone.
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  • It's not for someone just 'cause of their economic status.
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  • (uplifting piano music)
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  • - Sister Clara, we wanna explore the background
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  • that Sisters of Charity and started by with Mary Aikenhead.
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  • Tell us a bit about Mary Aikenhead.
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  • - Mary Aikenhead was an Irish,
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  • a woman who came from Ireland.
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  • Actually from Cork in Ireland.
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  • She came from a quite well-off family
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  • and was a very social woman.
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  • She had great love for the poor.
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  • She called the poor God's nobility.
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  • And she caught that love from her father,
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  • who was apothecary, as they called it in those days.
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  • And he would go on his rounds out in to the,
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  • in Cork at that time, out into the people's homes
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  • that were quite poor and he would assist them,
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  • give them pain remedy--
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  • - When was this?
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  • - This was 18, well before 1815.
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  • Our congregation was founded in 1815,
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  • so this was in the 1800s.
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  • (soothing music)
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  • - [Karl] So I'm here to study
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  • about the Victorian England period.
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  • When was that, by the way?
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  • - 1837 to 1901.
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  • - Okay, so in that period of time,
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  • what was life like if you were poor?
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  • Say, for instance, in the healthcare system.
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  • - Sure.
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  • It was quite a mixed picture,
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  • depended where you lived.
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  • Ah, but one of the striking features of the 19th century
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  • is that in the early period, at least,
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  • standards of living were lower than they had been
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  • 100 years earlier and that's quite staggering
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  • if you think of technological change at that time.
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  • And, actually, the technological change
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  • was part of the problem because the society
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  • was becoming more industrialized
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  • and people were flocking to the cities for jobs.
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  • And they were often living in cramped, squalid conditions
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  • and diseases were rife in that kind of environment.
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  • - So if you spread people out in farms and cottages,
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  • it wasn't so bad but you put 'em all into one place
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  • you get bad healthcare outcomes.
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  • - Absolutely.
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  • And also because so many people are moving in
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  • at quite fast pace,
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  • there were lots of quick house building
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  • and not necessarily of the best standards.
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  • So you could have drafty housing
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  • and you gotta bear in mind,
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  • you've got smokey conditions and not very good hygiene.
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  • So, yes very good for spreading disease unfortunately.
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  • - What sort of disease?
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  • - There's absolute lows at this time.
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  • So you would have, for example, typhus.
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  • You have typhoid.
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  • Cholera comes in later.
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  • You have scarlet fever.
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  • Influenza itself was very dangerous at the time
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  • and there are many others as well.
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  • Yes, they could be very dangerous.
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  • Some of them we now obviously have prevention for,
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  • but actually at the time,
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  • they could be devastating the population.
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  • - Mary went to Archbishop Murray at the time
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  • and said to him,
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  • "I want to join an order that will serve the poor."
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  • And he said, "Well, I think you'll have to start one."
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  • And very humbly,
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  • Mary said, "I'm not worthy.
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  • I cannot do it."
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  • And he said, "Let's get you trained."
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  • She went over to Bar Convent in York.
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  • So she was trained in the way of religious life
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  • and she came back to Ireland
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  • and in 1815, she established the Sisters of Charity.
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  • Now, there were very, very poor times in Ireland
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  • and she really got her friends
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  • who had influence and who were well-off
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  • to work with her.
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  • She always looked at what is the need?
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  • And then she wanted to meet those needs.
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  • - So now we're a long way from Dublin, here in Sydney.
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  • So how did The Sisters of Charity get from Dublin
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  • and be active in Sydney?
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  • - So, she was busily establishing The Sisters of Charity
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  • and she received a letter from Bishop Polding
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  • here in Australia asking if some sisters
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  • could come out to this God forsaken place of Australia
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  • and work in Parramatta, in the female factory.
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  • And Mary, at great cost to the congregation,
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  • it was really struggling,
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  • chose five sisters.
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  • They arrived on the 31st of December.
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  • Imagine all in black and, you know.
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  • And as soon as they arrived, they were taken off.
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  • They were on the Francis Spaight for over six months.
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  • They were taken to the Bishop's residence.
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  • Hopefully had a bath or whatever.
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  • To midnight mass on the 31st of December
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  • and then started visiting in the hospitals
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  • and in people's homes.
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  • But then they went out to Parramatta
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  • to the female factory.
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  • - Now, these were the first female religious order
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  • in Australia?
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  • - First women religious in Australia.
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  • - So they had the same motivation as Mary Aikenhead?
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  • - They had the same motivation.
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  • Our charism about sharing the love, tenderness,
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  • and concern of Christ with all,
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  • seeing Christ in everyone,
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  • especially the poor and the marginalized.
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  • - Who started Saint Vincent's hospital
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  • and when did it start?
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  • - Now, it was one of those first five sisters, 1858.
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  • And three of our sisters were very ill with influenza
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  • and this Alicia De Lacy said,
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  • "We need to build a hospital."
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  • Now they had, those five sisters knew Mary Aikenhead,
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  • so they had the experience of Mary Aikenhead
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  • starting the first Saint Vincent's Hospital
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  • in Dublin.
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  • And they, once again, had great supporters,
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  • men and women who wanted to work with the sisters.
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  • So they had a bazaar and they raised money.
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  • They bought a home in Potts Point called Tarmons.
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  • And then they established, I think they established
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  • the male ward first, which is very interesting.
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  • - Between the age of five to 15,
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  • or even younger than that,
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  • what were your chances of survival?
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  • - Yeah, it was very hard conditions at that time.
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  • So for a start, if you were from a poor background
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  • at least you might be lucky to make it to childhood
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  • in the first place.
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  • So infant mortality rates were very, very high,
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  • particularly in urban areas.
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  • It could be as high as one in every two children
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  • of the poorest sections of society would die
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  • before they were two.
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  • And it could be higher than that still,
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  • so one and a half sometimes in every two.
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  • So, unfortunately, your life chances are quite low.
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  • If you then make it through to childhood,
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  • you would have to contribute to the family purse
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  • at quite an early age,
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  • often around 10 years old, sometimes earlier,
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  • sometimes a bit later.
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  • The other thing to bear in mind is you're often
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  • working in what we would now consider to be
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  • environments that were quite dangerous.
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  • Lots of the jobs at this time had considerable
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  • what we call occupational hazards in a day,
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  • in the time before you had the likes
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  • of health and safety regulation.
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  • So, although those were coming in 1830s and 1840s,
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  • many working environments were very dangerous.
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  • And often children were used in the hardest roles.
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  • They were the lowest paid staff
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  • and they would often be sent to do some of the jobs
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  • that adults couldn't do.
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  • - What would they be?
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  • What would those jobs be?
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  • - There were all kinds of different things
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  • that they could do depending on where they were.
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  • But you had obviously chimney sweeps is a classic one.
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  • Because they were smaller,
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  • they could get up chimneys
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  • but, of course, falling down or getting stuck
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  • was an occupational hazard.
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  • In factories, you often had children working
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  • around machinery underneath, sort of keeping them clear.
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  • But of course its very dangerous working
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  • near moving machinery.
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  • And then in agricultural setting often that you had
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  • them doing things like scaring birds in fields
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  • but often you'd be working on your own,
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  • in very cold conditions.
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  • And then in mines as well, they were often used
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  • just for doing things like opening doors
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  • and closing them in these sort of dark conditions.
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  • So, quite dangerous conditions
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  • and scary if you think of the age
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  • that some of these children were.
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  • - The patients in those days had lead poising,
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  • and tuberculosis, and ulcers,
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  • and a lot of poverty, you know?
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  • And those sisters, they were absolutely determined
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  • to have high quality care,
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  • focusing on the patients,
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  • going out getting the poor, getting the needy.
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  • It's really interesting reading the history.
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  • Once the patients got well enough,
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  • the sisters made them work.
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  • So they had to work when they're in hospital,
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  • you know?
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  • But it cost them nothing.
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  • - So Tarmons, it was aimed at the poor?
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  • Was it aimed across the board?
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  • - It was to serve the poor
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  • and not to be discriminating
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  • of race, color, creed,
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  • religion.
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  • - Jesus was once asked,
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  • "How I can I ensure eternal life?"
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  • Jesus replied, "To love God and to love your neighbor."
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  • The person who asked the question
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  • wanted to be really sure so he said,
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  • "Who is my neighbor?"
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  • So in answer to that question, Jesus tells this story.
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  • Guy was walking down a lonely road
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  • and he was set upon by thieves and robbers.
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  • He was beaten up and left for dead
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  • on the side of the road.
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  • Two individuals came past and left him there.
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  • They were religious leaders of the time.
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  • Then the third person came by,
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  • saw the man beaten on the side of the road
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  • and stops to help him.
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  • The fact that a stranger stopped to help someone
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  • on the side of the road was admirable.
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  • What was remarkable was that the person who stopped
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  • was a Samaritan.
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  • And a Samaritan were sworn enemies of Jews.
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  • It's incredible that Jesus makes the Samaritan
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  • the hero of the story.
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  • Not only does a Samaritan help the guy
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  • on the side of the road,
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  • he puts him on his donkey,
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  • takes him to an inn,
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  • and tells the innkeeper to look after him
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  • and he'll pay for any costs
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  • that it takes to get this guy back to full health.
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  • Jesus, in answering the question,
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  • "Who is my neighbor?"
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  • says that "Not only is my neighbor my stranger,
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  • he's also my sworn enemy."
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  • Across the world, there are Christian organizations
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  • who use that term, Samaritan or Good Samaritan,
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  • to describe their organization.
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  • Many hospitals across the world are called
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  • Samaritan or Good Samaritan hospitals
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  • is because they're living out what Jesus said
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  • we should all do.
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  • "Who is my neighbor?"
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  • Not only the stranger, but my enemy.
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  • Healthcare in many nations is seen as a universal,
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  • almost human right.
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  • Was that, the monastic movement had an impact
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  • in that area as well, didn't it?
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  • - It did and very early on,
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  • when those communities began to form
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  • because part of their understanding of Jesus'
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  • teachings was that we were to care for the sick,
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  • we were to care for the least of these.
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  • So what we think of now as hospitals
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  • began around the 5th or 6th centuries
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  • and they were normally attached to
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  • these monastic communities.
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  • And then when you think about so many expressions
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  • of compassion for folks that are suffering,
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  • the Red Cross.
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  • If you look at how many hospitals in the United States
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  • or in Europe have names like The Good Samaritan,
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  • or Saint Anthony's, or Saint Andrew's,
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  • that's not a coincidence.
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  • The connection between healing
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  • and these monastic communities and followers of Jesus
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  • is a very deep one.
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  • (light piano music)
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  • - Often people see monks as just guys
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  • that went off and often spent time by themselves.
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  • But they actually were quite influential,
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  • certainly in the area of health.
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  • - In the 4th century,
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  • which is really when the monastic movement began
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  • and when Christians started getting this idea
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  • of retreating from the hustle and bustle
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  • of the world and sort of going off
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  • and spending their entire time eating mosquitoes
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  • and reading the Bible and so on.
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  • This was also the time when those same people
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  • started setting up institutions to look after
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  • the poor, the sick, the hungry, and so on.
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  • So an example of this is Basil of Caesarea,
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  • one of the most energetic people of the 4th century.
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  • It's just exhausting, Saint Basil.
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  • He was a brilliant man,
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  • very well, highly educated, very aristocratic.
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  • And he set up, he built, this hospital as it was called,
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  • called Basilea, I think, after him.
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  • So not an entirely humble man perhaps.
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  • But this was on the outskirts of Caesarea
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  • and it was a big complex that looked after the poor.
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  • It looked after the sick, it looked after strangers.
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  • And buildings like this were a new institution.
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  • They were called xenodochia,
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  • which just means places to look after strangers, basically.
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  • And they were a really important part
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  • of the success of Christianity at this time
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  • because Christians looked after people
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  • in a way that hadn't really happened before.
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  • And it's really striking, in the early 360s,
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  • the emperor Julian became emperor.
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  • And Julian was not a Christian.
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  • So the emperors had been Christian
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  • for a couple generations.
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  • Julian hated Christianity and he wanted
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  • to restore paganism.
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  • But he was really impressed by the xenodochia,
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  • by the hospitals.
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  • And he actually wrote in a letter at one point
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  • to one of the people he was instructing,
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  • "The Christians have run rings around us."
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  • Basically, "They've set up these things.
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  • Why aren't we doing this?"
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  • He orders the creation of a pagan network
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  • of these poor houses
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  • to match.
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  • And of course, it never happened
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  • because he died 18 months into his reign
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  • in battle in what is now Iraq.
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  • Had he lived, who knows what had happened.
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  • But it's striking that even a self-proclaimed enemy
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  • of Christianity was positively impressed by that.
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  • And that had to begin from it's later on,
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  • you know, in the Middle Ages.
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  • Similarly, if you were poor, if you were sick
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  • it was often the monastery that was often
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  • the best care for you.
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  • And monasteries, especially in the later Middle Ages
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  • were well-built.
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  • They had good hygiene.
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  • They had good foods.
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  • They were quite comfortable,
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  • moderately comfortable.
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  • So they could offer those sorts of services.
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  • - Let me go back on your story.
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  • So when did you start as a Sister of Charity?
  • 00:17:09.060 --> 00:17:12.070
  • - I was 21 years of age and I'd just finished
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  • my nurse training with the Sisters of Mercy
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  • at the Mater Hospital in Brisbane.
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  • And all of my friends, there are.
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  • They're getting engaged
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  • or they're going to do their midwifery.
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  • And I was sort of thinking (hums).
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  • What is it in me that's not wanting to go
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  • with them to do their midwifery?
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  • I had a little bit of a
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  • niggle within me.
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  • I was on night duty, actually,
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  • before I finished my nurse training
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  • and I went to the chapel at the supper break.
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  • And I just sort of thought,
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  • what do I really want to do?
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  • I so loved nursing and I thought,
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  • that night I thought, you know,
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  • I'd like to be absolutely totally able
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  • to give my life to God,
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  • to serve in the healing ministry of Christ.
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  • - In the same area of healthcare
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  • but looking at say one of the characters of the last
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  • couple hundred years.
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  • Florence Nightingale, tell us about her.
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  • - Sure.
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  • She was undoubtedly one of the most intriguing
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  • figures of this era.
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  • This is actually one of the difficulties
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  • with studying her because there's so much
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  • legend surrounding her story
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  • that it's sometimes difficult to separate fact and fiction.
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  • But she's a very interesting figure.
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  • So, she was highly educated.
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  • She came from a very wealthy background
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  • but the problem for her was she had a very strong
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  • calling to helping the sick.
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  • But she lived in an age when it was considered
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  • unacceptable for a woman of her stature
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  • to be in that kind of profession.
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  • At this time, if you worked as a nurse
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  • that you would have to be working class.
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  • That is what you were if you were going to be
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  • in those kinds of profession.
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  • And so she actually had quite a long battle
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  • with her own family to try to let her
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  • be used in what she considered to be her calling.
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  • She eventually took an unpaid role
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  • running a essentially an elderly people's home
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  • for the sick in London.
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  • And she actually did such a good job,
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  • that the British government actually asked her
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  • to run a hospital near Istanbul during the Crimean War.
  • 00:19:20.080 --> 00:19:25.010
  • And what was interesting about that is
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  • there was actually a public outcry
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  • about the conditions there.
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  • And so the government had to act
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  • and they though she would be the best person to so it.
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  • But as a result, she actually arrived with already
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  • the public eye looking to see what was going on there.
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  • And she had an incredible impact in improving
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  • the conditions of the soldiers.
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  • - She was obviously brilliant,
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  • very committed,
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  • a keen mind and
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  • that kinda character trait that you couldn't say no to.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - Where was the faith element to her motivation?
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  • - Fortunately, she was very clear about
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  • what her motivation was.
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  • And she essentially said that she felt
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  • that God had called her to ministry.
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  • She said this very explicitly.
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  • Of course, she was a very well-educated person
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  • so there were lots of different influences on her
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  • including some Christian authors.
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  • She also got to visit various different
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  • healthcare providers at the time,
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  • including some religious orders
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  • and that informed her as well.
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  • But essentially, she said that she considered
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  • charitable acts to be the cornerstone
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  • of the Christian faith.
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  • She actually considered this kind of service
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  • to be the purest form of devotion
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  • that you could do.
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  • So, she was very clear that this was exactly
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  • what her faith was leading her to.
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  • And she came from more of a tradition of
  • 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:48.060
  • deed rather than creed.
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  • So she wasn't so interested in some
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  • of the theological arguments
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  • but was very insistent that she acted out her faith
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  • in a way that impacted people and helped others.
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  • - [Karl] It's a big choice.
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  • - It was a big choice.
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  • It was a wonderful choice, actually.
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  • I mean, I've had my ups and downs
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  • but it's a wonderful life.
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  • Once upon a time, there was a beautiful ceremony
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  • with the clothing and this stays in my mind
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  • about how Mary Aikenhead called the poor God's nobility.
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  • You are given a apron on your clothing day,
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  • which meant you were clothed in the habit
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  • and received to a novice for the next stage.
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  • You were given, by a poor child, an apron
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  • which was the apron of service
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  • which you were to wear.
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  • And you were given a key because of God's nobility.
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  • How you treated the poor, they would open.
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  • That would be the key to heaven
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  • and they would be very generous.
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  • And I always remember that.
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  • That symbol. - A beautiful symbol.
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  • - Symbol of service and love.
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  • (soft piano music)
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  • - She worked tirelessly to the detriment of her own health.
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  • So she was quite sick in the process
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  • and many people pointed out that she was
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  • this angelic figure who was helping the British soldiers.
  • 00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:19.290
  • And in doing so, actually nearly ended up dying herself.
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  • - She's in the Crimean War
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  • and dealing with dying, wounded soldiers.
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  • It's a very hands on type of role for somebody
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  • of her stature in this society.
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  • - Yeah, absolutely.
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  • And one of the slightly unfortunate things
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  • is we think of her as just a nurse.
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  • And actually, she was running the whole hospital
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  • and she was in charge of the sort of purveying
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  • department of trying to get lots
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  • of different items for her hospital.
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  • One thing she worked on,
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  • she got a boiler installed to clean people's clothes
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  • so that the soldiers could have clean clothes,
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  • as many of them were literally in the same outfits
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  • that they were, had fought in.
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  • And of course, that was not good for infection
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  • if you're wounded.
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  • So she did a huge amount for that.
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  • An also, she actually challenged people's
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  • assumptions of what women could do at this time,
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  • or a woman of her stature at least.
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  • (gentle piano music)
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  • - Saint Vincent's, when it was started at Potts Point,
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  • was for the poor.
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  • What's the mix of people?
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  • 'Cause Saint Vincent's private is often seen
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  • as kind of the top-end medical care.
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  • What's the span of people you look after here?
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  • - On this campus, basically, we would offer services
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  • to probably some of the wealthiest people in Australia.
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  • And our private hospital is probably regarded
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  • as the best in Australia.
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  • Through to service which are dedicated
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  • to the homeless.
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  • Literally 30 feet away from here,
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  • there's a specialist service looking after
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  • homeless people with alcohol problems,
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  • so we span everything.
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  • It's really important to understand
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  • the healing ministry of Jesus is for everyone.
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  • (soft music)
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  • - The foundation of health in Australia
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  • was from Christian organizations.
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  • The foundation of the hospital system in Australia's
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  • from Christian organizations.
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  • It's crazy to look at five sisters
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  • who came 175 years ago off a boat.
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  • They've set up and run the second biggest
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  • health organization in the country.
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  • That doesn't happen by chance.
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  • What they're saying is that
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  • "I believe in the healing ministry of Jesus."
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  • They're passionate about it.
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  • And when you get people who are passionate
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  • about his ministry, it grows, it works, it develops.
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  • The development we'll be doing in the next 10 years
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  • is significant and it's 'cause we got a mission.
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  • And we want to extend that mission.
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  • We want to tell people it is about
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  • the healing ministry of Jesus.
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  • So I believe that it's part of Australian society.
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  • We can't deny it. It's a core part of who we are
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  • whether it's education,
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  • whether it's health,
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  • or the non-profit system.
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  • The predominant providers who are caring
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  • for others in society are Christians
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  • and that's who we are.
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  • And I think it's what Jesus has brought
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  • to change the game in Australia.
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  • He's pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • He's pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • Pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • He's pulling me up
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  • He's pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • He's pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • Pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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  • Pulling me up
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  • (music overlapping lyrics)
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