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September 1, 2019
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It Is Written with John Bradshaw

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  • [water splashing] [soft music]
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  • -John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written.
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  • I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me.
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  • It seems to me that many people have a strange relationship
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  • with hell, an odd sort of relationship.
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  • I mean, think of the way people talk about hell,
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  • the way people refer to it.
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  • [bird chirping, water splashing]
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  • "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."
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  • You can debate the appropriateness
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  • of a statement like that, but think of what it means.
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  • It means that as bad as hell might be,
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  • it's not as bad as an angry woman.
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  • Now, I know we can't afford to take these phrases literally,
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  • but it really sounds like people aren't taking hell seriously.
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  • "The man was hellbent on doing something."
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  • I don't even know what that means, to be honest with you,
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  • although we know it means he was determined.
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  • "It isn't going to happen, come hell or high water."
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  • Which is five more words
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  • that don't logically mean anything at all,
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  • but we interpret that to mean that something
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  • just isn't going to happen no matter what.
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  • "It was a living hell."
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  • Oh, look, it really wasn't, but we get the point.
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  • It was bad. It was terrible.
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  • And typically that's said in connection with something
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  • really very bad.
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  • A country's civil war was "a living hell."
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  • Living with the injury as a result of that accident
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  • was "a living hell."
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  • Being in a terrible prison... we get the idea.
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  • "It will happen when hell freezes over."
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  • "It was looking tense, and then all hell broke loose."
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  • "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
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  • That's actually a fairly useful one.
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  • Good intentions aren't enough.
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  • You've got to follow through on your promises and your plans.
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  • The saying indicates that there will be people
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  • who don't make it into heaven who had every intention
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  • of getting things sorted out between them and God,
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  • but...never happened.
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  • When it's said that the road to hell
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  • is paved with good intentions,
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  • that's really a bit of a philosophical statement
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  • intended to help people to see the need
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  • to take serious things seriously.
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  • But there's one saying about hell
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  • that we're actually going to see through today.
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  • We'll actually do it.
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  • Have you ever heard it said that somebody went to hell and back?
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  • Well, today on It Is Written we're actually going to go
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  • to Hell and back.
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  • I don't mean that figuratively, and I'm not trying to be funny.
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  • We really are going to go to Hell,
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  • and we'll really come back.
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  • Now, if I were to tell you that today we are going to go
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  • to Hell, you shouldn't be all that surprised about that.
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  • And here's what I mean.
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  • There are some people who have claimed
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  • that they have visited hell.
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  • They've then come back from hell,
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  • written books about it and spoken about it.
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  • And the remarkable thing is
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  • they've even been taken seriously.
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  • [traffic noise]
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  • My wife and I were driving across northern Idaho
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  • a good number of years ago,
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  • and because we needed to make a phone call,
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  • we stopped at a pay phone.
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  • Now, if you're a little younger,
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  • and you're not sure what a pay phone is,
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  • ask someone 30 years of age or older,
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  • and they'll be able to fill you in.
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  • There used to be 2 million of them in the United States,
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  • but that number has dropped by about 90 percent.
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  • In some states there's only 2 percent or so
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  • of the pay phones there used to be.
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  • Then came cell phones, and pay phones started disappearing.
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  • And now you don't see them lining the walls
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  • of train stations and airports.
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  • That was back in the old days.
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  • So we stopped at a pay phone in Idaho,
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  • and as I approached the phone,
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  • I noticed that little phone booth was festooned
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  • with small pink pieces of paper.
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  • They were everywhere,
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  • tucked into every crack
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  • that they could possibly be tucked into.
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  • Now, even though curiosity killed the cat,
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  • I bravely took one of the pink papers
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  • and with some interest looked to see what it said.
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  • What I read fascinated me.
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  • Whoever had written this had--well, they claimed--
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  • visited hell.
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  • That's right. They had been there.
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  • These were little homemade tracts that had been stuck
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  • all over this little pay phone booth.
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  • In fact, I still have some of them.
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  • I have no idea who wrote them or who wrote the excerpts.
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  • Somebody suggested to me these might be excerpts
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  • from a book written by somebody,
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  • written by somebody who claims to have been to hell.
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  • Maybe you recognize this.
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  • I mean the writer no harm, but it's worth looking at this.
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  • Let me read to you.
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  • Jesus is acting as a tour guide
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  • and is chaperoning this individual around hell.
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  • [eerie music]
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  • Hell is shaped like a body and is "in the center of the earth."
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  • This person says that just as there is a body of Christ,
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  • hell is shaped liked a body.
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  • And then the description goes on,
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  • of brimstone pits and people whose flesh is being melted away
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  • by the heat and the flames.
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  • There are rats and there are snakes,
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  • and there are angels, fallen angels,
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  • the size of grizzly bears with wings that are broken down
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  • at the back, pushing people back into the pits
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  • who would be trying to escape.
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  • What strikes me as strange about this
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  • is that hell doesn't seem to destroy snakes and rats.
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  • A lot of people would hope that those things
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  • would be among the first things to be destroyed.
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  • And something truly bizarre:
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  • Tracts like this make the devil out to be in charge of hell.
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  • Sinners suffer while the devil is in cahoots with God;
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  • he's helping God by causing the lost to suffer.
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  • Have we forgotten that Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,
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  • that hell is "prepared for the devil and his angels"?
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  • And not in the sense that it's prepared for them
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  • to do their business.
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  • Prepared for them.
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  • So is that what hell is like?
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  • No.
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  • So what's hell really like?
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  • Well, I told you a moment ago
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  • that we would go to Hell and back, and we're almost there.
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  • We'll go there in just a moment.
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  • [music]
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  • -Announcer 1: One of the most serious subjects in the Bible
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  • is hell, yet it's one of the least understood.
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  • What does the Bible really say about hell?
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  • Is there a hell?
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  • How long will it last?
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  • they often think of the Taj Mahal or Indian food.
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  • But what you probably won't think about
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  • Sadly, more than 15 million blind call India home,
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  • and it doesn't have to be that way
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  • because many of India's blind could see again
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  • if only they could afford cataract surgery.
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  • [soft music] [waves lapping]
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  • -John Bradshaw: Thanks for joining me today
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  • on It Is Written.
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  • We are going to Hell and back,
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  • although this place doesn't look a lot like what you'd think
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  • hell would be like.
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  • It looks more like what you'd imagine paradise to be.
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  • The island of Grand Cayman in the Caribbean
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  • really is beautiful.
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  • It's about 200 miles south of Cuba
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  • and about the same distance west-northwest of Jamaica.
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  • Mexico is about 400 miles in that direction.
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  • Honduras is a little closer,
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  • about 320 miles to the southwest.
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  • A little over 50.000 people live on Grand Cayman.
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  • About 9.000 others live on other Cayman islands.
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  • And unless you don't like sand and the ocean and sunshine
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  • and breathtaking scenery, this place is beautiful.
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  • There's a reason cruise ships stop here.
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  • Scuba diving and snorkeling are big,
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  • some of the best in the world.
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  • Beautiful beaches.
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  • Tourists flock here.
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  • The country is home to some of the world's largest banks,
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  • most of the world's largest banks.
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  • And Caymanians and Cayman Island companies are not taxed.
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  • So that old saying about death and taxes?
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  • Only half of that really applies here.
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  • And did I say it's beautiful here?
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  • [upbeat instrumental music]
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  • The largest town on Grand Cayman is George Town,
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  • the island's capital.
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  • Bodden Town is in the middle of the island,
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  • and there's East End and North Side and West Bay.
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  • And oddly enough, there's a place
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  • up in the northwest of the island called...Hell.
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  • Now, it isn't a town, strictly speaking,
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  • but there's a service station and a post office,
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  • and you can send a postcard home from Hell.
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  • So why in the world is there a place called Hell
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  • on an island like this?
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  • Well, I said we'd go to Hell today, and I was serious.
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  • We're going to Hell to find out.
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  • [percussion music]
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  • This isn't the only spot on earth
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  • that there's a place called Hell.
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  • There's one in Michigan, northwest of Ann Arbor.
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  • And in the cold winters there, you know what happens.
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  • This is Hell, Cayman Islands.
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  • And why did it get its name?
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  • Well, Hell in the Cayman Islands is an area about half the size
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  • of a football field,
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  • and it's covered in short black limestone formations.
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  • So you can imagine someone once said something flippant
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  • about the geography, someone else was amused,
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  • and once it drew tourists, the name stuck.
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  • How many places in the world are there where you can go to Hell?
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  • But you see what's happened?
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  • If hell was 10 percent as serious as the Bible says it is,
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  • 5 percent, 1 percent, no one would be joking about it.
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  • It seems you wouldn't be naming a tourist attraction Hell
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  • if you really thought that hell was a place of final destruction
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  • for lost people, people who have no hope
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  • of ever experiencing salvation and eternal life.
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  • Serious business when you think about it, isn't it?
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  • Hell represents the end of the line,
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  • the no-turning-back point,
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  • the place of utter hopelessness for people,
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  • where folks are eternally cut off from God.
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  • Is that something you joke about?
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  • So think about this from God's point of view.
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  • "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
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  • Well, what for?
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  • We were created for God's glory, according to Isaiah 43:7.
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  • God created you so you could live with Him forever,
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  • so close that the relationship between God and His children
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  • is described in the Bible as a marriage.
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  • The book of Song of Solomon is a love story,
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  • the story of Solomon and a woman he loved.
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  • But it's also descriptive of the love of God for His church.
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  • God's love for humanity is serious.
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  • And if you've ever doubted that, you just look at John 3:16,
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  • which says that "God so loved the world,
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  • that He gave His only begotten Son,
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  • that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish,
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  • but have everlasting life."
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  • Who dies on a cross?
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  • Who's crucified for someone else,
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  • especially for people who've almost entirely rejected Him?
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  • Who does that?
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  • You've really only got two choices:
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  • either a mad man
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  • or Someone compelled by love to demonstrate that love
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  • in a desperate effort to save the lost.
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  • So that's how God feels.
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  • And then, hell is going to take place,
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  • where God's own children will perish.
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  • And when you consider what the Bible has to say
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  • about the fate of the lost, well, it's pretty descriptive.
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  • Revelation 14:9-11 says,
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  • "And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,
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  • 'If any man worship the beast and his image,
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  • and receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand,
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  • the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
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  • which is poured out without mixture
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  • into the cup of His indignation;
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  • and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone
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  • in the presence of the holy angels,
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  • and in the presence of the Lamb:
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  • and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:
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  • and they have no rest day nor night,
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  • who worship the beast and his image,
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  • and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.'"
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  • Revelation 20:9 and 10,
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  • "And they went up on the breadth of the earth,
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  • and compassed the camp of the saints about,
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  • and the beloved city:
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  • and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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  • And the devil that deceived them
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  • was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
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  • where the beast and the false prophet are,
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  • and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
  • 00:14:04.230 --> 00:14:09.260
  • So, does the story of the rich man and Lazarus
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  • fit in with this?
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  • Well, not if you're being theologically consistent.
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  • If you're being theologically responsible,
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  • you'll realize the story of the rich man and Lazarus
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  • is a parable.
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  • God isn't teaching us that the saved and the lost
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  • can speak to each other from their various abodes.
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  • No suffering soul is going to ask for a drop of water
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  • to relieve its stress.
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  • The point of the rich man and Lazarus story
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  • isn't a commentary on the fate of the lost or the saved,
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  • but to teach us various things.
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  • Number one, being rich doesn't necessarily mean you're blessed,
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  • and being a beggar, for example,
  • 00:14:49.060 --> 00:14:50.280
  • certainly doesn't mean that you've been cursed by God.
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  • But that's what the Pharisees believed.
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  • This teaching was for them.
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  • Second thing, the story teaches that you cannot be saved
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  • by your family tree, by heredity.
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  • You certainly cannot be saved
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  • simply because you belong to a certain church.
  • 00:15:05.280 --> 00:15:09.060
  • Who does the rich man call out to
  • 00:15:09.070 --> 00:15:10.270
  • in the story of the rich man and Lazarus?
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  • He calls out to Father Abraham.
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  • The religious leaders in Jesus' day proudly said,
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  • "Our father is Abraham,"
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  • and yet these children of Abraham had the Messiah
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  • in their midst and rejected Him.
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  • The prophecies that they were studying told them
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  • when the Messiah would come, which is why Jesus,
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  • when He was baptized, said, "The time is fulfilled,
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  • and the kingdom of God is at hand."
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  • That's Mark chapter 1, verse 15.
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  • He was telling them that the prophecies in the book of Daniel
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  • that pointed out the timing of the coming of the Messiah
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  • had been fulfilled.
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  • The Messiah was in their midst,
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  • and yet they're all about "We are the children of Abraham."
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  • Their hope was in the wrong place,
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  • and this story was given to show them that.
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  • And further, point number three, the rich man said this:
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  • "I have five brothers.
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  • Send Lazarus to them so that they'll know
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  • that they should make sure they don't come to this place."
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  • And in the story he is told,
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  • "They have Moses and the prophets."
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  • If they won't believe that, they won't be convinced,
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  • even if someone went to them from the dead,
  • 00:16:18.190 --> 00:16:20.210
  • which is interesting because an actual Lazarus did come back
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  • from the dead, and still they rejected Christ.
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  • So the story is told to convince them--and us--
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  • that we should take Moses and the prophets,
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  • the Word of God, seriously.
  • 00:16:35.060 --> 00:16:38.060
  • So should we be scared of hell?
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  • And do many people even believe that there is a hell anymore?
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  • I'll have that next.
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  • on It Is Written.
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  • We've come to Hell,
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  • Hell on Grand Cayman in the Cayman Islands.
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  • Years ago someone took a look at the geography
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  • and made a remark, and the name Hell stuck,
  • 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.080
  • and so today tourists can come here from all over the world
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  • and say that they have been to Hell.
  • 00:17:43.290 --> 00:17:46.210
  • You can even send a postcard or a letter home from Hell,
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  • with the Hell postmark right on it.
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  • Now, Jesus certainly believed in hell.
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  • Matthew 10:28, Jesus says,
  • 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.020
  • "Fear not them [that are able to] kill the body,
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  • but [cannot] kill the soul:
  • 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:03.180
  • but rather fear Him [who] is able to destroy
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  • both soul and body in hell."
  • 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.220
  • The Bible speaks plainly about the subject,
  • 00:18:08.230 --> 00:18:11.220
  • but it's fair to say that often people wildly misconstrue
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  • what the Bible says about hell.
  • 00:18:16.260 --> 00:18:19.080
  • Take the story of the rich man and Lazarus.
  • 00:18:20.080 --> 00:18:24.220
  • That's helped a lot of preachers over the years
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  • because it sounds as though you can point to the rich man
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  • and make the case that lost people are condemned to suffer
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  • in a place of fiery torment for all eternity.
  • 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:38.170
  • But you don't need to misinterpret the parable
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  • of the rich man and Lazarus to make the point very clearly
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  • that hell is no laughing matter.
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  • Every time someone refers to hell in a casual sense
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  • they're trivializing something that's phenomenally important.
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  • It's like those cartoons depicting the devil
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  • wearing a red suit and brandishing a pitchfork.
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  • It diminishes the solemnity of the subject,
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  • makes something that should be taken seriously
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  • nothing more than a laughing matter.
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  • [waves fizzing and splashing]
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  • So hell is serious.
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  • Now, it seems that not that many people believe in hell anymore.
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  • A survey by Pew Research
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  • indicates that a little more than half of all Americans
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  • believe in the existence of hell.
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  • One would think that back in the days when Jonathan Edwards
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  • was preaching about "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God,"
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  • those numbers might have been a little bit higher.
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  • "The wrath of God burns against them,
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  • their damnation does not slumber;
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  • the pit is prepared, the fire is made ready,
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  • the furnace is now hot, ready to receive them;
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  • the flames do now rage and glow.
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  • The glittering sword is whet, and held over them,
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  • and the pit hath opened its mouth under them."
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  • It might even be that sermons like that
  • 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:10.080
  • have got something to do with those numbers dropping.
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  • You see, when you present God as cruel,
  • 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.060
  • when you portray God as, as rubbing His hands together
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  • with glee at the prospect of another suffering soul,
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  • thinking people reject that.
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  • You cannot on the one hand say that God is love
  • 00:20:25.210 --> 00:20:29.050
  • and then depict God as though He's loving the process
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  • of tormenting suffering sinners.
  • 00:20:33.030 --> 00:20:36.090
  • In Ezekiel 33:11, God says,
  • 00:20:37.090 --> 00:20:40.270
  • "As I live...I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked;
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  • but that the wicked turn from his way and live:
  • 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.120
  • turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways;
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  • for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"
  • 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:56.070
  • But again, while Jesus believed in hell,
  • 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:01.060
  • and He made clear that sinners will ultimately be destroyed,
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  • there's no reason to become theologically inaccurate
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  • when you talk about this.
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  • I believe you'll find a lot of people have rejected God
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  • because of what people say about hell.
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  • The thing is this: Hell is ultimately going to destroy sin.
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  • The very sad fact is that there will be many people
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  • who are attached to sin.
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  • When God destroys sin, the unrepentant who've chosen sin
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  • will be destroyed along with it.
  • 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:33.000
  • So should a person live in fear of hell?
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  • Well, anybody ought to have a healthy respect
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  • for what the future holds for them,
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  • should they choose to live in opposition to God.
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  • But live in fear of hell?
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  • No, your focus is in the wrong place when you do that.
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  • In the old days, the preachers used to do everything they could
  • 00:21:48.030 --> 00:21:50.060
  • to make hell sound absolutely horrifyingly bad,
  • 00:21:50.070 --> 00:21:53.040
  • but when you focus on that, and when you talk about a God
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  • who just can't wait to fry people,
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  • there's no wonder people give up on God altogether.
  • 00:21:59.010 --> 00:22:02.270
  • Now, you can use the subject to portray God as hateful
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  • and cruel and vindictive,
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  • but He isn't.
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  • He is just, and He is going to get rid of sin.
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  • But He's not a tyrant.
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  • Too often people get told that God's going to send
  • 00:22:16.100 --> 00:22:18.270
  • bad people to hell.
  • 00:22:18.280 --> 00:22:20.090
  • While you can make a case for that, it's a pretty lazy case.
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  • The people who will be lost are those who've chosen
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  • not to accept God's gift of eternal life through Jesus.
  • 00:22:28.030 --> 00:22:32.070
  • Once you start saying,
  • 00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:33.090
  • "You'll be lost because of your drunkenness";
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  • "You'll be lost because of your, your dishonesty"--
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  • that sort of thing--
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  • essentially, all you're doing is being a legalist,
  • 00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.090
  • telling somebody that they will be lost because of this deed
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  • or that deed.
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  • Oh, now, of course I agree sin is bad;
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  • I wouldn't say otherwise.
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  • Romans 6, verse 23: "The wages of sin is death."
  • 00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:54.180
  • But people are lost because they don't have Christ.
  • 00:22:54.190 --> 00:22:58.230
  • The drunkenness and the lying and whatever else,
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  • they're just a symptom of that.
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  • Jesus said in 1 John 5:12, "He that hath the Son hath life;
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  • and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."
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  • And I want you to notice what Jesus said in John 5, verse 40:
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  • "And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life."
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  • So how are things with you?
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  • When the subject of hell comes up,
  • 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:29.260
  • it's usually presented one of two ways:
  • 00:23:29.270 --> 00:23:31.210
  • the hottest, the worstest, the roastingest,
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  • God is the cruelest and the most unhappiest,
  • 00:23:35.110 --> 00:23:39.140
  • or the subject just presented as though it's of no concern.
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  • Well, it's of great concern.
  • 00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:45.110
  • And God is love; He's not cruel.
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  • It doesn't mean this is not serious. It is.
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  • But if we focus on the flames,
  • 00:23:49.290 --> 00:23:52.150
  • we're really not focusing on the most important thing.
  • 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:54.260
  • And the most important thing is your heart
  • 00:23:54.270 --> 00:23:56.120
  • and whether God has it.
  • 00:23:56.130 --> 00:23:57.180
  • If Jesus has your heart, you have His life as your own.
  • 00:23:57.190 --> 00:24:01.260
  • The Word of God says, "He that hath the Son hath life."
  • 00:24:01.270 --> 00:24:04.090
  • First John 5, verse 12.
  • 00:24:04.100 --> 00:24:06.020
  • So the question really is, do you have the Son?
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  • And you can have Him now by simply opening up your heart
  • 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.180
  • to Jesus and saying, "I choose You; I accept You.
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  • Come into my life. Be my Lord and Savior."
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  • Would you do that?
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  • I encourage you to do that now.
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  • And make certain that you have secured
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  • a bright, a joy-filled eternal future with a God of love.
  • 00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:35.180
  • -Announcer 1: One of the most serious subjects in the Bible
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  • is hell, yet it's one of the least understood.
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  • -John Bradshaw: Let's pray together now.
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  • Our Father in heaven,
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  • [soft music]
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  • we thank You today that You are good and holy
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  • and righteous and pure.
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  • Yes, we know that You are just,
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  • and we know that sin causes You great pain.
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  • We're thankful that one day it will be gone,
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  • that You'll rid this universe of sin.
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  • Heavenly Father, right now there's someone
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  • who has been thinking, if sin goes, I go.
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  • Friend, if that's your thought,
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  • then let go of sin and take hold of Jesus the Savior.
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  • If you're not certain you can let go of your sin,
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  • then just take hold of Jesus anyway.
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  • He'll do the work that needs to be done.
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  • The Bible says it is God who works in you
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  • "to will and to do of His good pleasure."
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  • Our Father, would You do that?
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  • And we will look forward with confidence;
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  • we will look forward with hope;
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  • we will look forward with Jesus living and abiding in us.
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  • Today we thank You.
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  • We thank You for the gift of eternal life,
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  • and we claim it, and we praise You for it, in Jesus' name.
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  • Amen.
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  • Thank you so much for joining me.
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  • I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
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  • Until then, remember:
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  • "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone,
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  • but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
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  • [theme music]
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