Heart of A Servant Leader
January 16, 2021
57:30
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- ♪ Joyful, joyful,we adore you ♪
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- ♪ God of glory,Lord of love ♪
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- ♪ Hearts unfold likeflow'rs before you ♪
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- ♪ op'ning to the sun above ♪
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- ♪ Melt the cloudsof sin and sadness ♪
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- ♪ drive the darkof doubt away ♪
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- ♪ Giver of immortal gladness,fill us with the light of day ♪
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- ♪ Amen,Amen ♪
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- ♪ Amen! ♪
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- Bobby Schuller: This isthe day the Lord has made.
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- We will rejoiceand be glad in it.
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- Good morning.
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- Hannah Schuller:And welcome visitorsand welcome church family.
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- We are so happythat you're here.
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- You know, the age of miracleshas not passed.
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- God is still on the throne.
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- Whatever impossible miracle youneed today is possible for God.
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- You are so loved.
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- Bobby Schuller: Amen, so much ofmiracles, too, is just believing
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- something is possible and notkilling a miracle before it
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- happens in your mindand your heart.
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- So we're praying with all of youwho are going through a tough
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- time and believing Godfor something that will--
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- I'll just align my heart withyours, Hannah, and let's begin
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- with a word of prayer.
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- Father, we thank you so much foreverything you've given us, and
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- we thank you, Lord, that you area God who loves us and you are a
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- God who is at work in the world.
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- You are a God who loves tosometimes break the rules of
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- nature and help us.
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- And so we just ask, God, inJesus's name for anybody who
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- needs a miracle this morning orevening, wherever they are, that
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- your Holy Spirit would do a goodwork in their body, in their
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- mind, or in any other aspect oftheir life that we need
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- your help.
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- Father, more than anything, weask that you'd fill us with your
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- Holy Spirit and help us to betrue disciples of you, Jesus.
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- And it's in yourname we pray, amen.
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- Haven Schuller: Amen.
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- Turn to the personnext to you and say,
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- "God loves you and so do I."
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- ♪♪♪
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- ♪ God is our refugeand strength ♪
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- Hannah Schuller: In preparationfor the message, Philippians
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- 2:1, "Therefore, if you have anyencouragement from being united
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- with Christ, if any comfort fromhis love, if any common sharing
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- in the Spirit, if any tendernessand compassion, then make my joy
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- complete by being likeminded andhaving the same love, being one
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- in spirit and of one mind.
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- Do nothing out of selfishambition or vain conceit.
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- Rather, in humility value othersabove yourselves, not looking to
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- your own interests, but each ofyou to the interests of others."
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- Church family, God has called usto the heart of Jesus through
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- his servant leadership, amen.
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ rain down ♪
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- ♪ Oh, Comforterand Friend ♪
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- ♪ how we needyour touch again ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ rain down ♪
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- ♪ Let your power fall ♪
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- ♪ Let your voice be heard ♪
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- ♪ Come and changeour hearts ♪
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- ♪ as we standon your Word ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ Oh ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ rain down ♪
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- ♪ Oh, Comforterand Friend ♪
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- ♪ how we needyour touch again ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ rain down ♪
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- ♪ Let your power fall ♪
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- ♪ Let your voice be heard ♪
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- ♪ Come and changeour hearts ♪
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- ♪ as we standon your Word ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit ♪
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- ♪ Holy Spirit,rain down ♪
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- ♪ rain down ♪
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- ♪ Rain down,rain down ♪♪
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- Bobby Schuller:Thank you for joining us
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- on "Hour of Power" today.
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- We hope you've foundincredible hope
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- and inspirationfrom this program.
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- As we embrace the new year,Hannah and I want to say
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- thank you for your continuedgenerosity that carries us
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- through every season.
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- Even in the faceof a global pandemic,
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- your unfailing supporthas lifted this ministry
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- up on eagle's wingsand empowered us
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- to take the renewing strengthof Christ's love
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- to millions around the world.
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- Hannah Schuller:Isaiah 40:31 says,
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- "But those who hope in the Lordwill renew their strength.
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- They will soar on wingslike eagles.
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- They will runand not grow weary.
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- They will walkand not be faint."
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- Friends, no matter how unsettledthings look around us,
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- Jesus is all that we need.
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- Whether you're in the valleyor on the mountaintop,
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- his Spirit gives uswings to fly.
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- As we rest in his strengthand sufficiency,
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- our Savior suppliesdivine energy
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- and profound endurancethat inspire us
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- to soar above uncertainty.
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- Bobby Schuller: That's right,and since the 1980s,
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- male announcer: Zim Flores is anentrepreneur, podcast host,
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- and author.
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- She founded Travel Noire, a highend online travel company that
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- reaches millions of travelersevery month.
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- After selling Travel Noire in2017, she founded the website,
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- Italicist, a platform that helpswomen shop for modest
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- clothing online.
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- By finding her true identity inChrist and pursuing what he has
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- called her to do, she wasinspired to write her latest
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- book, "Dare to Bloom: TrustingGod through Painful Endings and
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- New Beginnings."
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- In the book, she explains howthe Lord is the true holder of
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- our identity in anycircumstance.
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- Please welcome Zim Flores.
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- Bobby Schuller: Zim, hi,welcome.
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- Hey, for those who have notmaybe heard what I think is an
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- amazing story, can you pleaseshare a little bit about your
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- business, and your life,and sort of how you got
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- to where you are?
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- Zim Flores: Yeah, absolutely.
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- So I grew up in a small townin Minnesota.
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- There weren't very many kids wholooked like me, so I was forced
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- to kind of thinkoutside the box.
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- So my life very much revolvedaround being able to talk to
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- different people from differentbackgrounds and move in between
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- different circles, and so I wasalways feeling different.
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- I was always this weird kid.
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- Moved to North Carolina, cloneda gene when I was 19 years old,
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- and so that kinda catapulted mein the biology world.
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- I was a freshman in college andso it all started there.
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- After I graduated college, Isold everything that I owned
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- and I moved to India,and I worked there.
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- And so my life has just beena series of these really
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- interesting,beautiful experiences.
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- And so when I started my travelcompany, it was in the summer of
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- 2017 that I felt the Lordnudging me to give this thing
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- up, this thing that I had verymuch tied to my own identity.
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- And it was the most painfulexperience that I had ever kind
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- of experienced in my life, butwhat I took away from that was
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- that there are these beautifulthings that God has for us, but
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- first we have to let go of whatwe're holding on to.
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- And so that for me has been sucha beautiful lesson.
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- So right now, my husband and I,we run six different businesses.
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- We do a lot of reallyinteresting things, but all of
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- that would not have beenpossible had I not leaned into
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- what God was sayingand really obeyed him.
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- Bobby Schuller: That's awesome.
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- For those who don't know, Imean, I feel like you're really
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- well-known for this travelbusiness you started.
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- And I think you sold it, right?
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- And tell me a little bitabout that business.
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- I mean, to me it seemslike a dream job.
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- I mean, I'm living my dream job,but to have a travel blog
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- or to be able to travel and tellpeople where to go, I mean,
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- I think my wife and Iwould love that.
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- That must have been tons of funfor you.
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- Zim Flores: You know, it wasborn out of my own experience.
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- When I was livingin India, I was--
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- at the time, we wouldhave $8 flights
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- from India to Malaysiato Cambodia,
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- and so I was alwayshopping around.
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- And so I wanted other people tohave that same kind of
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- experience, so it really was adream job like you say, but my
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- identity got lost in that.
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- And I think that was one of thebiggest lessons.
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- Or the biggest thing that I tookaway was that there is the
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- thing-- there are the thingsthat we do, but who we are is
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- not attached to what we do.
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- Bobby Schuller: What do you meanyour identity was lost in that?
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- What does that mean?
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- Zim Flores: So I was knownas a travel girl, right?
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- Everybody would come to me fortravel advice, and literally
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- anything that had to do withtravel, people came to me.
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- And it got to a point where Iwas like, you know, I don't want
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- to be a travel girl anymore.
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- I want to be God's girl.
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- And so what does that look like?
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- It means that I have to becomfortable with living a life
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- of sacrifice, and not sacrificein the way where, like, life
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- isn't abundantly joyful, becauseI believe that that's what God
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- wants for us, but sacrificial inthat we know that whatever God
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- calls us to give up, there issomething better on the other
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- side of that.
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- Bobby Schuller: Yeah,that's awesome.
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- Well, and that reallyleads you to your book.
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- I mean, it sounds like whatyou've really struck is a nice
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- balance because obviously youand your husband are doing well.
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- You said you have six companies.
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- I mean, obviously you believe inbuilding things.
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- You believe in having a bigvision.
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- But on the flip side of that isyou can get tied up in that and
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- there's nobody to celebrate withwhen you cross the line.
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- You have a sort of emptiness onthe inside, and so you really
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- want people to strike both thosethings, don't you, with the most
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- important thing being thatdiscipleship factor to the Lord.
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- So that leads us to your newbook called, "Dare to Bloom."
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- Tell us a little bit about whyyou-- why did you write this
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- book, and what are you hopingpeople take away from it?
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- Zim Flores: So I wrote the bookright after-- well, I wrote the
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- book after the period that I hadwhen I was dealing with the
- 00:18:12.508 --> 00:18:17.045
- company that purchasedTravel Noire.
- 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.281
- So I sold Travel Noire inSeptember 2017 and I stayed on
- 00:18:19.314 --> 00:18:23.919
- with our acquiring company forabout 18 months.
- 00:18:23.952 --> 00:18:26.588
- And during that period of time,everything changed.
- 00:18:26.622 --> 00:18:30.159
- The company that I started wasno longer the company that I
- 00:18:30.192 --> 00:18:32.861
- knew once I left, and it washeartbreaking, right?
- 00:18:32.895 --> 00:18:36.698
- You have this thing you builtfrom the ground up and it's
- 00:18:36.732 --> 00:18:39.034
- somehow unrecognizable anymore.
- 00:18:39.067 --> 00:18:41.870
- It's just unrecognizable.
- 00:18:41.904 --> 00:18:43.539
- And so for me, I knew that therewere some lessons that God had
- 00:18:43.572 --> 00:18:47.576
- for me.
- 00:18:47.609 --> 00:18:49.244
- During the period of time whereI just wanted to leave, there
- 00:18:49.278 --> 00:18:53.515
- was a concept that I thoughtabout a lot called gutting
- 00:18:53.549 --> 00:18:57.819
- the fish.
- 00:18:57.853 --> 00:18:59.154
- And when we think about the bookof Jonah and how Jonah was
- 00:18:59.188 --> 00:19:01.823
- swallowed by a fish, he-- Icould imagine that Jonah perhaps
- 00:19:01.857 --> 00:19:05.827
- had a knife on him, and he had,like, a belt or something where
- 00:19:05.861 --> 00:19:08.797
- he could have gut his way out ofthe fish.
- 00:19:08.830 --> 00:19:11.867
- But the fish could've been 500feet below water, or 500 miles
- 00:19:11.900 --> 00:19:14.970
- from the shore.
- 00:19:15.003 --> 00:19:16.305
- If he would've cut himself outof the fish, he
- 00:19:16.338 --> 00:19:17.673
- could've drowned.
- 00:19:17.706 --> 00:19:19.007
- And so when I think about my ownlife and my own circumstance,
- 00:19:19.041 --> 00:19:21.877
- I could have said,"You know what, God?
- 00:19:21.910 --> 00:19:23.946
- I tap out.
- 00:19:23.979 --> 00:19:25.280
- Like, I just want to go back tomy normal life and do the
- 00:19:25.314 --> 00:19:27.716
- normal things."
- 00:19:27.749 --> 00:19:29.051
- But the Bible says that Jonahwas delivered unto dry land.
- 00:19:29.084 --> 00:19:33.288
- So that reminded me of how muchGod cares about where we
- 00:19:33.322 --> 00:19:36.925
- actually land.
- 00:19:36.959 --> 00:19:38.293
- If we just stay in the belly ofthe fish, or we stay where God
- 00:19:38.327 --> 00:19:41.029
- wants us to be, then he willalways deliver us unto dry land.
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- Bobby Schuller: That sounds likea good sermon.
- 00:19:46.101 --> 00:19:47.402
- We should have youcome preach sometime.
- 00:19:47.436 --> 00:19:48.770
- That's very, verysolid reflection.
- 00:19:48.804 --> 00:19:50.405
- I agree, and it's-- I think oneof the hard things is really
- 00:19:50.439 --> 00:19:53.508
- trying to sort out when,you know?
- 00:19:53.542 --> 00:19:55.811
- Because they're clearly aretimes when you're supposed to
- 00:19:55.844 --> 00:19:58.814
- wrap things up, but I guess whatyou're saying is God will show
- 00:19:58.847 --> 00:20:01.183
- it to you.
- 00:20:01.216 --> 00:20:02.551
- When the time comes,he'll make it plain.
- 00:20:02.584 --> 00:20:03.885
- And that's what I reallyappreciate about your voice
- 00:20:03.919 --> 00:20:06.421
- and your writing.
- 00:20:06.455 --> 00:20:07.756
- I think you're really justhelping people clearly
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- understand in these tough times.
- 00:20:10.225 --> 00:20:11.627
- Like with COVID and everything,it's like the idea of thriving.
- 00:20:11.660 --> 00:20:15.397
- Talk about good timing sellingyour travel business,
- 00:20:15.430 --> 00:20:17.499
- by the way.
- 00:20:17.532 --> 00:20:18.867
- I mean, with COVIDyou can't travel.
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- Zim Flores: Thank God.
- 00:20:20.235 --> 00:20:22.271
- I mean, it's really God'stiming, you know?
- 00:20:22.304 --> 00:20:24.039
- It's pretty great.
- 00:20:24.072 --> 00:20:25.407
- So, but I just want to say thankyou so much, Zim.
- 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:28.043
- And if you want to knowmore about Zim,
- 00:20:28.076 --> 00:20:31.113
- you can check outher website, Zimism.
- 00:20:31.146 --> 00:20:32.447
- So Z-I-M-I-S-M dot com.
- 00:20:32.481 --> 00:20:35.250
- And get this new book,"Dare to Bloom."
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- I think it's really gonna havea big impact on your life,
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- especially when you go into thenew year really centered.
- 00:20:39.655 --> 00:20:43.292
- Like, maybe you're a go-getter,you like to build things,
- 00:20:43.325 --> 00:20:45.460
- but you really want to becentered in the Lord.
- 00:20:45.494 --> 00:20:46.828
- Check out this book.
- 00:20:46.862 --> 00:20:48.163
- It'll really help you walkthat balance well.
- 00:20:48.196 --> 00:20:49.531
- Zim, thank you so muchfor joining us today.
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- Zim Flores: Thank youfor having me.
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- Bobby Schuller:Thank you for joining us
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- on "Hour of Power" today.
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- We hope you've foundincredible hope
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- and inspirationfrom this program.
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- As we embrace the new year,Hannah and I want to say
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- thank you for your continuedgenerosity that carries us
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- through every season.
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- Even in the faceof a global pandemic,
- 00:21:10.952 --> 00:21:13.055
- your unfailing supporthas lifted this ministry
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- up on eagle's wingsand empowered us
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- to take the renewing strengthof Christ's love
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- to millions around the world.
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- Hannah Schuller:Isaiah 40:31 says,
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- and profound endurancethat inspire us
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- to soar above uncertainty.
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- We're gonna say this together.
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- I'm not what I do.
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- I'm not what I have.
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- I'm not what peoplesay about me.
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- I am the beloved of God.
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- It's who I am.No one can take it from me.
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- Thanks, you can be seated.
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- You know, I am an avidfan of history.
- 00:24:50.939 --> 00:24:54.342
- I love teaching the Bible,looking at it through the lens
- 00:24:54.376 --> 00:24:57.712
- of history because, well, theBible is written in a historic
- 00:24:57.746 --> 00:25:01.449
- language in a historic placefrom a historic people, and God
- 00:25:01.483 --> 00:25:04.819
- used them to bring his Word andhis revelation to us.
- 00:25:04.853 --> 00:25:09.958
- And so I always think tounderstand it rightly we have to
- 00:25:09.991 --> 00:25:13.461
- understand where it came from,and that's what we taught--
- 00:25:13.495 --> 00:25:16.331
- that that's what we're taughtin seminary too.
- 00:25:16.364 --> 00:25:17.933
- But when I study history, onething is that history just ruins
- 00:25:17.966 --> 00:25:23.471
- fiction for me, because some ofthese stories are incredible.
- 00:25:23.505 --> 00:25:28.376
- And when I read history andstudy it, I feel like I get in
- 00:25:28.410 --> 00:25:33.281
- some way the opportunity or weget the opportunity to see
- 00:25:33.315 --> 00:25:37.752
- things the way the Lord sees it,you know?
- 00:25:37.786 --> 00:25:40.789
- When God sees us, he sees uswithin this giant arc, this
- 00:25:40.822 --> 00:25:48.196
- elongated story that has beengoing on for a long time, will
- 00:25:48.229 --> 00:25:52.601
- go on for much longer hopefully,has a beginning and an end, and
- 00:25:52.634 --> 00:25:57.105
- he knows where we are in it.
- 00:25:57.138 --> 00:25:58.473
- But when you're in the story,it's so hard to know what's
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- gonna happen next.
- 00:26:02.477 --> 00:26:03.778
- So when you read something thathappened 2.000, 3.000, or even
- 00:26:03.812 --> 00:26:07.515
- 100 years ago, you always knowwhat's gonna come next and it's
- 00:26:07.549 --> 00:26:12.287
- always interesting to think,"Why did he do that?"
- 00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:15.557
- And yet you know if I was inthat position, I would do that,
- 00:26:15.590 --> 00:26:18.026
- you know?
- 00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:19.361
- And so you kinda see yourself onthe villain, you see yourself on
- 00:26:19.394 --> 00:26:22.263
- the hero, and so I love historyfor that because it helps me
- 00:26:22.297 --> 00:26:28.203
- sort of understand not onlyScripture, but understand myself
- 00:26:28.236 --> 00:26:31.873
- and understand we as a people.
- 00:26:31.906 --> 00:26:34.576
- Well, one of the things that Ifind super interesting as a fan
- 00:26:34.609 --> 00:26:38.713
- of history--
- 00:26:38.747 --> 00:26:40.081
- I'm no historian or whatever,but as a fan of history, I love
- 00:26:40.115 --> 00:26:45.353
- to hear revisions by certaingroups who benefit by doing so.
- 00:26:45.387 --> 00:26:51.426
- Today, I'm specifically talkingabout the so-called Blue Bloods.
- 00:26:51.459 --> 00:26:56.498
- That's a hard phrase to say,Blue Bloods.
- 00:26:56.531 --> 00:26:59.434
- You know, the aristocrats, thosewho say, you know, "I am a king,
- 00:26:59.467 --> 00:27:03.838
- or a queen, or whatever," andhave this very strict lineage
- 00:27:03.872 --> 00:27:08.209
- that sort of goes back,and a lot of pride
- 00:27:08.243 --> 00:27:10.745
- that is found in that.
- 00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:12.747
- And there's sort of a cleaningup of the historic line when, as
- 00:27:12.781 --> 00:27:15.784
- a fan of history with regularred blood, you know, you read
- 00:27:15.817 --> 00:27:20.488
- back and you're like, well, manyof these queens, we don't know
- 00:27:20.522 --> 00:27:24.225
- if their kids were actuallysired by their kings,
- 00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:27.028
- first of all.
- 00:27:27.062 --> 00:27:28.563
- But two, there was a lot of--what's another word
- 00:27:28.596 --> 00:27:31.599
- for inbreeding.
- 00:27:31.633 --> 00:27:32.934
- That sounds bad.
- 00:27:32.967 --> 00:27:34.302
- Whatever, inbreeding.
- 00:27:34.335 --> 00:27:35.870
- And there's all sorts of stufflike this, but most of all when
- 00:27:35.904 --> 00:27:38.707
- you look back, these people camefrom very often the same
- 00:27:38.740 --> 00:27:44.846
- barbarians you came from.
- 00:27:44.879 --> 00:27:47.749
- Recently, my sister overChristmas bought me a great
- 00:27:47.782 --> 00:27:52.821
- gift, and I didn't know thatthis was possible, but
- 00:27:52.854 --> 00:27:55.957
- apparently there's anorganization in Scotland that is
- 00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:59.894
- trying to save the Highlands inAberdeen-- parts of Aberdeen
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- from development.
- 00:28:04.499 --> 00:28:05.934
- I've never been to Scotland, sokeep in mind I don't really know
- 00:28:05.967 --> 00:28:08.403
- what I'm talking about, butbasically they're trying to keep
- 00:28:08.436 --> 00:28:11.372
- it from development, and one waythat they're doing that is
- 00:28:11.406 --> 00:28:13.808
- they're parceling out land thatcan never be developed because
- 00:28:13.842 --> 00:28:18.213
- it's only a square or 2 meters,maybe 8 feet or so in a square.
- 00:28:18.246 --> 00:28:22.450
- And then they're selling it toanyone who would buy it because
- 00:28:22.484 --> 00:28:25.954
- Scottish law says if you ownland in Scotland, you can be a
- 00:28:25.987 --> 00:28:33.261
- lord or a lady.
- 00:28:33.294 --> 00:28:35.630
- So my sister took advantage ofthis and Hannah and I have now
- 00:28:35.663 --> 00:28:40.268
- been proclaimed, according tothe laws of Scotland, Lord
- 00:28:40.301 --> 00:28:43.972
- Robert Vernon Schuller and LadyHannah Rose Schuller, which is
- 00:28:44.005 --> 00:28:48.443
- pretty serious.
- 00:28:48.476 --> 00:28:49.811
- So now you have to call me LordPastor when you see me.
- 00:28:49.844 --> 00:28:53.715
- And I had to really look it upand see, like, is this legit?
- 00:28:53.748 --> 00:28:57.118
- Is this law really in place?
- 00:28:57.152 --> 00:28:59.521
- And I found a news article from,of course, a British journalist
- 00:28:59.554 --> 00:29:04.959
- who seemed very annoyed thatthis was happening because it's
- 00:29:04.993 --> 00:29:08.163
- really messing things up,you know?
- 00:29:08.196 --> 00:29:09.864
- And it seems silly, and it issilly, of course, but-- and I
- 00:29:09.898 --> 00:29:13.268
- just want to say I'm sorry toall of my British, Canadian,
- 00:29:13.301 --> 00:29:16.437
- or others who are in theCommonwealth of the
- 00:29:16.471 --> 00:29:18.439
- United Kingdom.
- 00:29:18.473 --> 00:29:19.774
- I mean, no offense at allto the Royal family
- 00:29:19.808 --> 00:29:21.876
- or anything like that.
- 00:29:21.910 --> 00:29:23.912
- They're wonderful.
- 00:29:23.945 --> 00:29:25.246
- They seem like wonderful people,but I think all of this is very
- 00:29:25.280 --> 00:29:27.315
- funny and silly.
- 00:29:27.348 --> 00:29:28.683
- And he was writing and saidabout this thing--
- 00:29:28.716 --> 00:29:32.253
- I had to google it.
- 00:29:32.287 --> 00:29:33.955
- Like, am I really a Lord?
- 00:29:33.988 --> 00:29:35.290
- Is Hannah really like a legitScottish Lady now?
- 00:29:35.323 --> 00:29:37.025
- And the answer is kinda.
- 00:29:37.058 --> 00:29:40.195
- Kinda.
- 00:29:40.228 --> 00:29:41.529
- He said yes, you can put yourname on-- you know, "Lord"
- 00:29:41.563 --> 00:29:46.601
- on your credit card, which I'mtotally gonna do now.
- 00:29:46.634 --> 00:29:49.971
- I didn't even knowyou could do that.
- 00:29:50.004 --> 00:29:51.506
- I was like, "Oh yeah, 'LordRobert Schuller' on my Visa."
- 00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:57.779
- He said yes, you can use it toget a better table when you make
- 00:29:57.812 --> 00:30:00.915
- a reservation.
- 00:30:00.949 --> 00:30:02.383
- So technically you can use thetitle, but then, and I picture
- 00:30:02.417 --> 00:30:06.154
- it in this voice, "But what doesit truly mean?
- 00:30:06.187 --> 00:30:10.825
- It means that you are a weirdfraud with ideas far above
- 00:30:10.859 --> 00:30:15.930
- your station."
- 00:30:15.964 --> 00:30:18.800
- I hear it in that voice, maybepicture a monocle*.
- 00:30:18.833 --> 00:30:21.269
- "Far above your station."
- 00:30:21.302 --> 00:30:23.638
- That phrase, as an American, youknow, who, you know, we were
- 00:30:23.671 --> 00:30:28.977
- like, "Death to King George.
- 00:30:29.010 --> 00:30:30.979
- Down with the--"
- 00:30:31.012 --> 00:30:32.780
- As an American, justgrinded my gears so much
- 00:30:32.814 --> 00:30:36.517
- that I cannot wait to putthat "Lord Robert Schuller"
- 00:30:36.551 --> 00:30:42.123
- behind my desk in my office.
- 00:30:42.156 --> 00:30:45.059
- No, but all of this to simplysay that in the aristocracy and
- 00:30:45.093 --> 00:30:50.465
- aristocracies of Europe, all ofthese families, especially in
- 00:30:50.498 --> 00:30:56.371
- the northern parts of Europe,most of them all go back to the
- 00:30:56.404 --> 00:31:00.875
- Franks and they all go back topeople like this guy, Clovis I,
- 00:31:00.909 --> 00:31:07.682
- who was the founder of theMerovingian Dynasty.
- 00:31:07.715 --> 00:31:11.819
- Now, when this painting was madeprobably hundreds of years after
- 00:31:11.853 --> 00:31:15.189
- King Clovis of the Franks, theydefinitely cleaned this guy up.
- 00:31:15.223 --> 00:31:19.394
- The Franks and the Germans ingeneral in those days were like
- 00:31:19.427 --> 00:31:24.532
- an outlaw biker gang.
- 00:31:24.565 --> 00:31:26.467
- Picture that.
- 00:31:26.501 --> 00:31:27.802
- I mean, just picture a 5thcentury outlaw biker gang and
- 00:31:27.835 --> 00:31:31.739
- you are seeing the Queen'sgreat-great-great-great-grandpa.
- 00:31:31.773 --> 00:31:35.443
- They're called the Franks afterthe axe he's holding in his
- 00:31:35.476 --> 00:31:39.180
- right hand called a franca.
- 00:31:39.213 --> 00:31:41.416
- It's a type of skull-splittingaxe that you throw at people.
- 00:31:41.449 --> 00:31:45.386
- And they-- you know, if you wereto see the real King Clovis walk
- 00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:49.190
- in here, he'd be covered intattoos.
- 00:31:49.223 --> 00:31:51.960
- He'd have wraps around his armsof this thing.
- 00:31:51.993 --> 00:31:54.195
- He'd have mud and grease in hishair or his-- he might have been
- 00:31:54.228 --> 00:31:58.032
- shaved up to the crown of hishead and then had a long hair
- 00:31:58.066 --> 00:32:01.369
- turned into, like, a ponytail,which then he would wrap around
- 00:32:01.402 --> 00:32:04.439
- his head.
- 00:32:04.472 --> 00:32:05.773
- He would've looked like a legitBarbarian.
- 00:32:05.807 --> 00:32:09.410
- The only reason I say all ofthis is because these kings who
- 00:32:09.444 --> 00:32:14.382
- come from people, like evenCharlemagne, and Pepin the
- 00:32:14.415 --> 00:32:17.785
- Short, and others like that,these were just really
- 00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:22.390
- good gangsters.
- 00:32:22.423 --> 00:32:25.860
- There's no such thingas blue blood.
- 00:32:25.893 --> 00:32:29.464
- And when a king dies, he bleedsred like the rest of us.
- 00:32:29.497 --> 00:32:34.102
- All of this to simply say youare a daughter of the King
- 00:32:34.135 --> 00:32:39.941
- of kings.
- 00:32:39.974 --> 00:32:41.275
- You are the son ofthe King of kings.
- 00:32:41.309 --> 00:32:44.645
- These other kings don't make youmore or less fit for anything.
- 00:32:44.679 --> 00:32:52.787
- And believe it or not, in thestory we're gonna read today,
- 00:32:52.820 --> 00:32:54.822
- all of this is relevant.
- 00:32:54.856 --> 00:32:57.291
- When we are the children of theKing of kings, we are not to
- 00:32:57.325 --> 00:33:03.264
- look for glory, office,prestige.
- 00:33:03.297 --> 00:33:09.604
- And though I have mycertificate, at the end of the
- 00:33:09.637 --> 00:33:12.373
- day, it's for fun and it's in away to make fun of these things
- 00:33:12.407 --> 00:33:16.177
- because I believe though officesare are important, when we find
- 00:33:16.210 --> 00:33:21.282
- our identity in our offices asleaders, it begins to erode our
- 00:33:21.315 --> 00:33:27.255
- ability to lead, as crazy asthat sounds.
- 00:33:27.288 --> 00:33:30.925
- Today, we're gonna talk about,"Lead like Jesus," which is an
- 00:33:30.958 --> 00:33:35.563
- actual seminar that is taughtall around the world.
- 00:33:35.596 --> 00:33:39.700
- It was done by Blanchard andHodges.
- 00:33:39.734 --> 00:33:41.335
- It's a wonderful seminar and wedo it internally for our staff
- 00:33:41.369 --> 00:33:44.639
- and volunteers, but I reallythink it's important to teach
- 00:33:44.672 --> 00:33:48.876
- throughout the whole churchand on "Hour of Power"
- 00:33:48.910 --> 00:33:53.214
- because at the end of the day,you are a leader.
- 00:33:53.247 --> 00:33:57.218
- You're a leader.
- 00:33:57.251 --> 00:33:59.253
- Now, a leader, I define asanyone who wants to impute
- 00:33:59.287 --> 00:34:03.624
- influence on the waysomething is going.
- 00:34:03.658 --> 00:34:06.627
- You might think, "Bobby, I'm notmuch of a leader at all," but if
- 00:34:06.661 --> 00:34:09.530
- you're a parent, you're leadingyour children.
- 00:34:09.564 --> 00:34:12.033
- If you're trying to influenceyour spouse, you're leading
- 00:34:12.066 --> 00:34:14.735
- your spouse.
- 00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:16.104
- If you're in a team meeting atwork and you say or do something
- 00:34:16.137 --> 00:34:20.208
- in that meeting, you are a partof the leadership of
- 00:34:20.241 --> 00:34:23.611
- that meeting.
- 00:34:23.644 --> 00:34:25.480
- In church, when you go outsideand talk to people, if you give
- 00:34:25.513 --> 00:34:28.716
- someone advice or you offer todo something for someone, you're
- 00:34:28.749 --> 00:34:32.286
- leading them.
- 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:33.621
- So I want to begin with the ideaof admitting that all of us are
- 00:34:33.654 --> 00:34:37.959
- leading, but not all of us areleading well, and that we need
- 00:34:37.992 --> 00:34:42.263
- to take responsibilityfor leading.
- 00:34:42.296 --> 00:34:45.533
- Sometimes we need to step outand lead more, but most of all
- 00:34:45.566 --> 00:34:49.604
- when we lead, we need to leadfrom a place of discipleship.
- 00:34:49.637 --> 00:34:53.808
- We need to lead like Jesus.
- 00:34:53.841 --> 00:34:56.110
- And although I'm gonna followthe ethos of the "Lead like
- 00:34:56.144 --> 00:34:59.113
- Jesus" seminar, I'm gonna, like,de-Microsoft it a little bit.
- 00:34:59.147 --> 00:35:01.949
- You know I mean by that?
- 00:35:01.983 --> 00:35:03.284
- It's a little bit likecorporate language, which I
- 00:35:03.317 --> 00:35:05.386
- don't love.
- 00:35:05.419 --> 00:35:06.754
- I like historic and theologicallanguage, and so I'm gonna dial
- 00:35:06.787 --> 00:35:10.458
- back some of the language, butI'm not gonna veer at all from
- 00:35:10.491 --> 00:35:14.562
- the actual message.
- 00:35:14.595 --> 00:35:15.930
- In the next four weeks, we'regonna talk about the heart of
- 00:35:15.963 --> 00:35:18.499
- Jesus, the head of Jesus, thehands of Jesus, and the habits
- 00:35:18.533 --> 00:35:23.204
- of Jesus.
- 00:35:23.237 --> 00:35:24.572
- And so today, we'll be talkingabout the heart of Jesus.
- 00:35:24.605 --> 00:35:27.408
- And the heart of Jesus is thatthe last will be first and the
- 00:35:27.441 --> 00:35:30.978
- first will be last.
- 00:35:31.012 --> 00:35:32.580
- As disciples of Jesus andChristians in general, we are
- 00:35:32.613 --> 00:35:37.351
- called not to look first at theoutside results, but to first
- 00:35:37.385 --> 00:35:42.390
- look at the heart, at the will.
- 00:35:42.423 --> 00:35:45.059
- What is it I desire?
- 00:35:45.092 --> 00:35:47.895
- What is it I'm moving towards?
- 00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:50.531
- What is it I care most about?
- 00:35:50.565 --> 00:35:53.301
- Jesus, when he teaches morals,he always begins with what's
- 00:35:53.334 --> 00:35:57.838
- happening on the inside, in theinvisible parts, the stuff that
- 00:35:57.872 --> 00:36:02.443
- nobody else sees, the stuff thatonly you can see when you stare
- 00:36:02.476 --> 00:36:06.781
- at yourself in the mirror, whichI did the other day with my
- 00:36:06.814 --> 00:36:10.351
- certificate and went, "Bobby,you are Lord Bobby."
- 00:36:10.384 --> 00:36:13.854
- That sounds hilarious,Lord Bobby.
- 00:36:13.888 --> 00:36:15.556
- That's enough of that.
- 00:36:15.590 --> 00:36:16.924
- Anyway, but no, at the end ofthe day, Christ cares the most
- 00:36:16.958 --> 00:36:20.061
- about what's happeningin our hearts.
- 00:36:20.094 --> 00:36:22.763
- It's an inside-outtransformation.
- 00:36:22.797 --> 00:36:24.565
- We change what's going on herebefore we change what's going on
- 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.668
- out there.
- 00:36:27.702 --> 00:36:29.003
- So this idea that the Europeanmedieval kings and queens took
- 00:36:29.036 --> 00:36:33.641
- in terms of aristocracy and allof these things were effectively
- 00:36:33.674 --> 00:36:38.713
- inherited by the Roman Empire.
- 00:36:38.746 --> 00:36:42.083
- And of course, the Romansweren't the first to do it
- 00:36:42.116 --> 00:36:43.818
- either, but by the time we gotto Jesus's day, there was
- 00:36:43.851 --> 00:36:47.154
- definitely a hierarchy in place.
- 00:36:47.188 --> 00:36:49.724
- It's interesting when you lookat the Roman Empire that this
- 00:36:49.757 --> 00:36:52.793
- one little town that became abig town, that became a city in
- 00:36:52.827 --> 00:36:57.665
- the middle of central Italy,swallowed up the whole
- 00:36:57.698 --> 00:37:01.302
- known world.
- 00:37:01.335 --> 00:37:02.637
- It's incredible the way thatthey did this.
- 00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:05.406
- In Italy, the Roman Conquestreally began as, like,
- 00:37:05.439 --> 00:37:10.511
- safety measures.
- 00:37:10.544 --> 00:37:11.846
- They kept getting attacked bytheir neighbors, so they would
- 00:37:11.879 --> 00:37:14.582
- adapt, and change, and conquertheir neighbors so they would
- 00:37:14.615 --> 00:37:18.052
- just be left alone.
- 00:37:18.085 --> 00:37:19.754
- And this began a process ofongoing, never-ending conquest
- 00:37:19.787 --> 00:37:25.593
- by the Republic.
- 00:37:25.626 --> 00:37:26.927
- This, paired with an ethos of aneed for fame and glory, caused
- 00:37:26.961 --> 00:37:30.765
- many soldiers and generals torise up and want to
- 00:37:30.798 --> 00:37:33.034
- conquer more.
- 00:37:33.067 --> 00:37:34.368
- Early on in the Roman Republic,all the soldiers were land
- 00:37:34.402 --> 00:37:37.371
- owners, but as the Republic grewand grew and eventually became
- 00:37:37.405 --> 00:37:41.776
- an empire with an emperor, witha Caesar, soldiers now could be
- 00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:46.681
- from anywhere.
- 00:37:46.714 --> 00:37:48.249
- And the population, and itsaristocracy, and its caste
- 00:37:48.282 --> 00:37:51.852
- system were changingdramatically over the years,
- 00:37:51.886 --> 00:37:55.690
- where now you had a very clearsystem that looked a bit
- 00:37:55.723 --> 00:37:59.327
- like this.
- 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:00.695
- I think we have a pyramid herewhere you have this guy here.
- 00:38:00.728 --> 00:38:05.900
- Of course at the top is Caesar,and then you have the Patricians
- 00:38:05.933 --> 00:38:08.969
- and the senators.
- 00:38:09.003 --> 00:38:10.304
- Those are the old aristocracy,the old families that go way
- 00:38:10.338 --> 00:38:13.607
- back in Rome.
- 00:38:13.641 --> 00:38:14.942
- The equestrians,which are like knights.
- 00:38:14.975 --> 00:38:16.344
- Plebeians, which isthe everyday guy.
- 00:38:16.377 --> 00:38:18.512
- Freemans and soldiers.
- 00:38:18.546 --> 00:38:19.880
- The freemans are slaves thathad been freed.
- 00:38:19.914 --> 00:38:21.816
- And finally, the very lowest ofthe low, slaves.
- 00:38:21.849 --> 00:38:25.653
- And if you were to go in Jesus'sday into the Roman Empire, you
- 00:38:25.686 --> 00:38:28.789
- would see slaves everywhere fromeverywhere.
- 00:38:28.823 --> 00:38:33.661
- So the Romans-- you know, whenwe study American slavery or
- 00:38:33.694 --> 00:38:36.931
- European slavery in the earlyEnlightenment, late medieval
- 00:38:36.964 --> 00:38:40.434
- eras, predominantly most slaveswere taken from--
- 00:38:40.468 --> 00:38:44.972
- as indigenous peoplesor especially from Africa.
- 00:38:45.005 --> 00:38:47.742
- And and in those days, though,Romans didn't care.
- 00:38:47.775 --> 00:38:50.611
- They enslaved everybody.
- 00:38:50.644 --> 00:38:51.946
- Anybody they conqueredcould be a slave.
- 00:38:51.979 --> 00:38:54.181
- Women, children.
- 00:38:54.215 --> 00:38:55.683
- Many of those slaveswere actually--
- 00:38:55.716 --> 00:38:58.152
- were white, so like, if Iwould have been, you know--
- 00:38:58.185 --> 00:39:01.956
- if you were to take meand throw me in the Empire,
- 00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:04.325
- a 6' 3" half-Dutch, half-Irishwhatever guy,
- 00:39:04.358 --> 00:39:08.462
- I would be, you know, inthose days, a Celt, or I would
- 00:39:08.496 --> 00:39:12.333
- be from Gaul, or something likethat, or German, and I would
- 00:39:12.366 --> 00:39:16.871
- be paraded.
- 00:39:16.904 --> 00:39:18.239
- You'd see me walkin' around inthe Middle East around people
- 00:39:18.272 --> 00:39:20.841
- whose average height was about 5feet tall, and I would have a
- 00:39:20.875 --> 00:39:23.711
- long mustache going down likethis, and long hair, and I would
- 00:39:23.744 --> 00:39:27.448
- have my tattoos, you know.
- 00:39:27.481 --> 00:39:28.916
- And I'd probably be a soldier,or a worker, or something like
- 00:39:28.949 --> 00:39:31.919
- that, but I would be a slave.
- 00:39:31.952 --> 00:39:33.854
- And in those days, there wasnothing lower than a slave.
- 00:39:33.888 --> 00:39:37.425
- A slave was property, valuableproperty, but at the end of the
- 00:39:37.458 --> 00:39:41.562
- day, was property.
- 00:39:41.595 --> 00:39:43.731
- And so what you had in the RomanEmpire in those days was a huge
- 00:39:43.764 --> 00:39:47.568
- swath of the population thatcould be used, exploited
- 00:39:47.601 --> 00:39:52.072
- for anything.
- 00:39:52.106 --> 00:39:53.741
- Many of the children and most ofthe slaves who were women were
- 00:39:53.774 --> 00:39:58.379
- sexually exploited,among other things.
- 00:39:58.412 --> 00:40:01.348
- Horrible.
- 00:40:01.382 --> 00:40:02.983
- And this of course existsin Jesus's day.
- 00:40:03.017 --> 00:40:06.020
- This hierarchy is in place.
- 00:40:06.053 --> 00:40:08.756
- And while this is happening,Jesus is preaching about this
- 00:40:08.789 --> 00:40:14.028
- thing that he talks aboutconstantly, I think it's in
- 00:40:14.061 --> 00:40:17.331
- every chapter of the gospels,called the kingdom of God or the
- 00:40:17.364 --> 00:40:21.302
- kingdom of heaven.
- 00:40:21.335 --> 00:40:22.903
- And no matter how much Jesususes parables and tries to
- 00:40:22.937 --> 00:40:26.240
- explain to his disciples thatthe kingdom of God is something
- 00:40:26.273 --> 00:40:30.978
- that comes from the inside out,that the kingdom of God is God's
- 00:40:31.011 --> 00:40:35.382
- influence happening whereverit's happening, they are hearing
- 00:40:35.416 --> 00:40:39.320
- an actual government.
- 00:40:39.353 --> 00:40:41.856
- His disciples for sure arehearing what would sound like
- 00:40:41.889 --> 00:40:45.593
- today a small room in a barsomewhere in some block of
- 00:40:45.626 --> 00:40:50.531
- Europe, a group of Communiststalking about overthrowing the
- 00:40:50.564 --> 00:40:53.400
- government and who's gonna dowhat when the
- 00:40:53.434 --> 00:40:56.203
- revolution happens.
- 00:40:56.237 --> 00:40:58.172
- In the wake of the Hasmoneanreign, for sure, Jesus's
- 00:40:58.205 --> 00:41:02.610
- disciples think he's going to bea literal king in a room in
- 00:41:02.643 --> 00:41:08.115
- Jerusalem and he's going toreign over a kingdom that's
- 00:41:08.148 --> 00:41:11.619
- gonna conquer not only Rome,but the whole world.
- 00:41:11.652 --> 00:41:14.522
- We see this everywhere, butthere's this funny story where
- 00:41:14.555 --> 00:41:18.592
- this the sons of Zebedee,their mother--
- 00:41:18.626 --> 00:41:21.829
- it sounds like somethingmy mom would do.
- 00:41:21.862 --> 00:41:24.365
- Their mother goes to Jesus andsays to him, "Jesus.
- 00:41:24.398 --> 00:41:30.638
- Hey, Jesus.
- 00:41:30.671 --> 00:41:31.972
- Hey, when you come into yourkingdom, make my sons sit
- 00:41:32.006 --> 00:41:36.877
- at your right handand your left hand."
- 00:41:36.911 --> 00:41:40.014
- You know whatshe means by that?
- 00:41:40.047 --> 00:41:41.382
- She doesn't mean, "When you goto heaven, let them in heaven
- 00:41:41.415 --> 00:41:43.551
- and sit at your right hand."
- 00:41:43.584 --> 00:41:44.919
- No, she's saying, "Let them bethe number two guy with power in
- 00:41:44.952 --> 00:41:49.423
- your new Jesus theocracy andyour new Jesus government."
- 00:41:49.456 --> 00:41:53.027
- And the other disciples getsuper upset by this.
- 00:41:53.060 --> 00:41:57.298
- Why?
- 00:41:57.331 --> 00:41:58.632
- Not because what she's doing istotally against what Jesus is
- 00:41:58.666 --> 00:42:01.302
- preaching, but becausethey want that job.
- 00:42:01.335 --> 00:42:04.838
- I want to be at the top.
- 00:42:04.872 --> 00:42:06.373
- I've done most ofthe work for you, Lord.
- 00:42:06.407 --> 00:42:08.242
- Let me sit at the right.
- 00:42:08.275 --> 00:42:09.610
- Let me do the works.
- 00:42:09.643 --> 00:42:10.945
- Let me be governor, lord,whatever it is, so-and-so
- 00:42:10.978 --> 00:42:15.249
- in your--
- 00:42:15.282 --> 00:42:16.584
- Haven't I been faithful?
- 00:42:16.617 --> 00:42:17.952
- And you see all of this.
- 00:42:17.985 --> 00:42:19.286
- They're arguing and they'refighting, and finally Jesus
- 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:21.221
- interrupts them and he says thisfrom Matthew chapter 20,
- 00:42:21.255 --> 00:42:24.992
- verse 25.
- 00:42:25.025 --> 00:42:26.327
- It says, "Jesus called themtogether and said, 'You know
- 00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:29.396
- that the rulers of the Gentileslord it over them,'" meaning
- 00:42:29.430 --> 00:42:33.634
- they dominate them, "and theirhigh officials exercise
- 00:42:33.667 --> 00:42:37.938
- authority over them.
- 00:42:37.972 --> 00:42:40.007
- Not so with you."
- 00:42:40.040 --> 00:42:42.543
- See, Jesus usually is teachingin parables and stuff, but here
- 00:42:42.576 --> 00:42:45.879
- he's like, "I'm done with this.
- 00:42:45.913 --> 00:42:47.247
- I'm just makingthis plain to you."
- 00:42:47.281 --> 00:42:48.582
- "Not so with you.
- 00:42:48.616 --> 00:42:49.950
- Whoever wants to become greatamong you must be your servant
- 00:42:49.984 --> 00:42:57.591
- and whoever wants to be firstamong you," and here comes this
- 00:42:57.625 --> 00:43:01.061
- very weighty, political word.
- 00:43:01.095 --> 00:43:02.563
- Remember, he's-- this is a partof the social class.
- 00:43:02.596 --> 00:43:05.399
- "Whoever wants to be first,whoever wants to be at the top,
- 00:43:05.432 --> 00:43:08.669
- must be your slave, just as theSon of Man did not come to be
- 00:43:08.702 --> 00:43:15.709
- served but to serve and to givehis life as a ransom for many."
- 00:43:15.743 --> 00:43:21.448
- Can you bring that pyramid upagain real quick?
- 00:43:21.482 --> 00:43:24.418
- Jesus is saying--okay, they're probably here.
- 00:43:24.451 --> 00:43:26.687
- They're Plebs, right?
- 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:28.022
- They're everyday workers,fishermen, carpenters,
- 00:43:28.055 --> 00:43:29.790
- construction workers.
- 00:43:29.823 --> 00:43:31.125
- Today, you might say they'rehere and they want to be like--
- 00:43:31.158 --> 00:43:34.261
- Jesus is going to be up here.
- 00:43:34.294 --> 00:43:35.596
- They want to be these guys.
- 00:43:35.629 --> 00:43:36.997
- They wanna be, like-- 'cause allthat work, all that effort,
- 00:43:37.031 --> 00:43:39.933
- they're gonna be fighting.
- 00:43:39.967 --> 00:43:41.268
- They wanna be up here.
- 00:43:41.301 --> 00:43:42.603
- And Jesus says, "No, no, no.
- 00:43:42.636 --> 00:43:43.971
- If you want to be like me andyou think it's up here, you need
- 00:43:44.004 --> 00:43:47.641
- to move from here to down here."
- 00:43:47.675 --> 00:43:50.110
- You need to move from middleclass to the most disgraced,
- 00:43:50.144 --> 00:43:55.949
- unliked, un-aristocraticgroup there is.
- 00:43:55.983 --> 00:43:59.720
- You need to be like a slave.
- 00:43:59.753 --> 00:44:01.755
- You need-- basically he's sayingyou need to let go of your ego,
- 00:44:01.789 --> 00:44:08.295
- your desire for glory, andrecognition, and power.
- 00:44:08.328 --> 00:44:14.034
- If you want to lead like Jesus,you can lead, but you have to
- 00:44:14.068 --> 00:44:18.405
- let go of this need to befamous, this need to be a big
- 00:44:18.439 --> 00:44:24.845
- deal, this need to be thankedall the time.
- 00:44:24.878 --> 00:44:28.816
- And although all of those thingscan be enjoyable, at the end of
- 00:44:28.849 --> 00:44:32.519
- the day, if you want to leadlike Jesus, you need to become
- 00:44:32.553 --> 00:44:35.456
- like the least of these, not thegreatest of these.
- 00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:39.693
- This is constantly in Jesus'steaching.
- 00:44:39.727 --> 00:44:41.361
- We're gonna talk more and moreabout it, but it's not--
- 00:44:41.395 --> 00:44:43.964
- it's totally inescapable that tolead like Christ means to serve.
- 00:44:43.997 --> 00:44:50.070
- It means you let go of your ego.
- 00:44:50.104 --> 00:44:51.972
- The "Lead like Jesus" seminarsays "EGO" is an acronym for
- 00:44:52.005 --> 00:44:55.843
- "Edging God Out."
- 00:44:55.876 --> 00:44:57.411
- The more my ego grows, the moreI push out my real calling, the
- 00:44:57.444 --> 00:45:01.815
- more I push out God'sleadership, the more I push out
- 00:45:01.849 --> 00:45:04.852
- the ultimate call of whyI'm here and what
- 00:45:04.885 --> 00:45:08.055
- I'm supposed to do.
- 00:45:08.088 --> 00:45:09.423
- And I would add to that, thesadder you'll get; that even
- 00:45:09.456 --> 00:45:11.625
- if you succeed in all of that,the more empty you'll feel,
- 00:45:11.658 --> 00:45:14.495
- the more you'll feel likeyou need another--
- 00:45:14.528 --> 00:45:16.864
- and at the end of the day,we need that.
- 00:45:16.897 --> 00:45:19.066
- We need to be where Christ is.
- 00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:21.502
- To double down on this, there'sanother story and you've
- 00:45:21.535 --> 00:45:24.204
- probably-- if you've gone tochurch at all in your life, you
- 00:45:24.238 --> 00:45:26.073
- for sure heard at least onesermon on this.
- 00:45:26.106 --> 00:45:27.741
- And that's probably better thananything I would preach, but
- 00:45:27.775 --> 00:45:29.810
- there's this story about whenJesus washes the feet of
- 00:45:29.843 --> 00:45:32.780
- the disciples.
- 00:45:32.813 --> 00:45:34.815
- And John the Evangelist goes along way to show you that Jesus
- 00:45:34.848 --> 00:45:39.019
- dresses like a slave.
- 00:45:39.052 --> 00:45:40.821
- It's interesting because Jesusdid have this tunic that doesn't
- 00:45:40.854 --> 00:45:44.057
- have a seam in it, which in hisday would have been
- 00:45:44.091 --> 00:45:46.360
- very expensive.
- 00:45:46.393 --> 00:45:47.694
- There's no explanationabout how he got it.
- 00:45:47.728 --> 00:45:49.062
- It would have been super rareand very difficult to make, but
- 00:45:49.096 --> 00:45:51.532
- basically an artisan tailorwould have measured your body
- 00:45:51.565 --> 00:45:54.468
- and made the whole thing andweaved it so that it would slip
- 00:45:54.501 --> 00:45:58.705
- over your head and it would fityou perfectly with no
- 00:45:58.739 --> 00:46:02.242
- seams anywhere.
- 00:46:02.276 --> 00:46:03.677
- So he had one of those, and heremoved that.
- 00:46:03.710 --> 00:46:06.013
- He removed that wealthy piece ofclothing.
- 00:46:06.046 --> 00:46:09.116
- He removed whatever rabbinic andOrthodox Jewish accoutrement he
- 00:46:09.149 --> 00:46:13.754
- might have been wearing and heput on the sash of a slave and
- 00:46:13.787 --> 00:46:19.159
- began to do one of the mostembarrassing things a slave
- 00:46:19.193 --> 00:46:23.630
- can do.
- 00:46:23.664 --> 00:46:24.998
- He began to wash the feet, washthe mud and animal stuff off of
- 00:46:25.032 --> 00:46:30.370
- the feet of his disciples,which would've been filthy.
- 00:46:30.404 --> 00:46:33.674
- And not only filthy,it's humiliating.
- 00:46:33.707 --> 00:46:35.275
- It's humiliating.
- 00:46:35.309 --> 00:46:37.311
- And he didn't care.
- 00:46:37.344 --> 00:46:38.679
- And he says when he finishesthis in John chapter 13, "You
- 00:46:38.712 --> 00:46:43.250
- call me," we'll say "Rabbi" sothe context is right.
- 00:46:43.283 --> 00:46:46.753
- "You call me Rabbi and Lord,and rightly so,
- 00:46:46.787 --> 00:46:50.858
- for that is what I am.
- 00:46:50.891 --> 00:46:53.293
- Now that I, your Rabbi--
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- Now that I, your Lord and Rabbi,have washed your feet, you also
- 00:46:56.096 --> 00:46:59.933
- should wash one another's feet.
- 00:46:59.967 --> 00:47:02.169
- I have set you an example thatyou should do as I have done
- 00:47:02.202 --> 00:47:05.939
- for you.
- 00:47:05.973 --> 00:47:07.274
- Very truly I tell you, noservant is greater than his
- 00:47:07.307 --> 00:47:11.044
- master, nor is a messengergreater than the one who
- 00:47:11.078 --> 00:47:15.015
- sent him.
- 00:47:15.048 --> 00:47:16.416
- Now that you know these things,you'll be totally blessed."
- 00:47:16.450 --> 00:47:19.820
- I added "Totally blessed."
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- You will be blessedif you do them.
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- Blessed.
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- You want to be blessed?
- 00:47:24.858 --> 00:47:26.193
- You want to be a joyful person?
- 00:47:26.226 --> 00:47:27.527
- Then when we lead, theleadership should not come from
- 00:47:27.561 --> 00:47:30.898
- a place of self-aggrandizementand ego.
- 00:47:30.931 --> 00:47:34.368
- It should come from a desire toplease the Lord and to bless
- 00:47:34.401 --> 00:47:38.105
- other people, to be a servantleader, to lead with
- 00:47:38.138 --> 00:47:40.941
- Jesus's heart.
- 00:47:40.974 --> 00:47:42.309
- That's a heart of compassion,of joy, of love, not of
- 00:47:42.342 --> 00:47:46.446
- self-promotion, not of theseother things that we see so
- 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.450
- often in leadership today.
- 00:47:50.484 --> 00:47:53.153
- So when you lead, and you dolead, lead with Jesus's heart.
- 00:47:53.186 --> 00:47:58.725
- We see all kinds of leaders inthe world today, but as leaders,
- 00:47:58.759 --> 00:48:02.496
- we ought to show what it meansto lead like Rabbi Jesus.
- 00:48:02.529 --> 00:48:07.200
- In your business meetings, or inpolitics, or wherever you look,
- 00:48:07.234 --> 00:48:10.270
- you're gonna find leaders thatare domineering.
- 00:48:10.304 --> 00:48:13.440
- You're gonna find leaders thatare cowards.
- 00:48:13.473 --> 00:48:15.809
- You're gonna find leaders thatare passive-aggressive.
- 00:48:15.842 --> 00:48:18.512
- You're gonna find leaders thatare leading from the shadows,
- 00:48:18.545 --> 00:48:20.914
- but they're still leading.
- 00:48:20.948 --> 00:48:22.716
- But not so with you.
- 00:48:22.749 --> 00:48:24.785
- You lead like Jesus, which isboth confidence and humility.
- 00:48:24.818 --> 00:48:30.324
- Not pride, not ego, not gettingyour feelings hurt all the time,
- 00:48:30.357 --> 00:48:35.162
- but leading from a place toserve others.
- 00:48:35.195 --> 00:48:39.266
- The "Lead like Jesus" groupcalls it a servant leader versus
- 00:48:39.299 --> 00:48:42.936
- a self-serving leader, oranother way of saying it is a
- 00:48:42.970 --> 00:48:46.039
- called leader versus a drivenleader.
- 00:48:46.073 --> 00:48:49.276
- And they think, and I agree withthem, that the-- really the only
- 00:48:49.309 --> 00:48:52.412
- difference between those twothings is who owns what's
- 00:48:52.446 --> 00:48:56.683
- being led.
- 00:48:56.717 --> 00:48:58.285
- You know, obviously as a pastorI need to know I don't own
- 00:48:58.318 --> 00:49:02.723
- this ministry.
- 00:49:02.756 --> 00:49:04.191
- That's easy for me becauseI didn't start this ministry.
- 00:49:04.224 --> 00:49:06.193
- I inherited it.
- 00:49:06.226 --> 00:49:07.527
- I'm a curator of it until itgoes to the next person who
- 00:49:07.561 --> 00:49:09.529
- leads after I'm here.
- 00:49:09.563 --> 00:49:11.531
- And it's not eventotally led by me.
- 00:49:11.565 --> 00:49:13.333
- It's also led by our-- I keepwanting to say classes, but this
- 00:49:13.367 --> 00:49:18.171
- is Presbyterian.
- 00:49:18.205 --> 00:49:19.539
- Our session, and that'simportant.
- 00:49:19.573 --> 00:49:23.010
- But all of us in leadership, wesee the responsibilities, or we
- 00:49:23.043 --> 00:49:26.380
- ought to see our responsibilitynot as something we own.
- 00:49:26.413 --> 00:49:29.683
- But if you're a driven leaderversus a called leader, it's
- 00:49:29.716 --> 00:49:32.352
- easy to see everything that I'mleading as mine, it's mine, and
- 00:49:32.386 --> 00:49:38.258
- to feel threatened and bothered.
- 00:49:38.291 --> 00:49:40.594
- But everything, even our bodies,is on loan from God.
- 00:49:40.627 --> 00:49:43.730
- We're gonna lose everythingin this world.
- 00:49:43.764 --> 00:49:45.098
- We can't take anythingout of here.
- 00:49:45.132 --> 00:49:47.200
- And the Lord shows us that if weare trustworthy managing and
- 00:49:47.234 --> 00:49:52.072
- curating his things, he'llentrust more to us.
- 00:49:52.105 --> 00:49:56.543
- But if we try and hoard itand do all this,
- 00:49:56.576 --> 00:49:59.146
- it'll be worthless*.
- 00:49:59.179 --> 00:50:00.647
- So here's three questions andI'll finish with this.
- 00:50:00.680 --> 00:50:03.083
- I'll go through this quickly.
- 00:50:03.116 --> 00:50:04.551
- If you want to know if you're aservant leader versus a
- 00:50:04.584 --> 00:50:07.054
- self-serving leader, these aregood questions to ask yourself.
- 00:50:07.087 --> 00:50:10.957
- Try not to think aboutyour boss, by the way,
- 00:50:10.991 --> 00:50:12.959
- while I'm saying this, okay,or something like this.
- 00:50:12.993 --> 00:50:16.129
- Remember, as a leader, and thinkabout this as a parent, at work,
- 00:50:16.163 --> 00:50:21.368
- if you're in ministry, whenyou're leading your ministry, if
- 00:50:21.401 --> 00:50:23.203
- you're volunteering here in thechurch and you're leading a
- 00:50:23.236 --> 00:50:25.539
- group or involved in group, howyou're leading those groups, ask
- 00:50:25.572 --> 00:50:28.809
- yourself these three questions,okay?
- 00:50:28.842 --> 00:50:30.811
- The first is, how do I respondto feedback?
- 00:50:30.844 --> 00:50:36.550
- How do I respond to feedback?
- 00:50:36.583 --> 00:50:39.553
- If you're married, when yourspouse gives you feedback,
- 00:50:39.586 --> 00:50:43.757
- how do you respond?
- 00:50:43.790 --> 00:50:45.926
- Husbands, your wife isa marriage book.
- 00:50:45.959 --> 00:50:50.664
- She will be happy to tell youhow to improve your marriage.
- 00:50:50.697 --> 00:50:53.533
- And at the end of the day, mostof us are gonna see every bit of
- 00:50:53.567 --> 00:50:57.337
- feedback we get as either a giftor as a threat.
- 00:50:57.370 --> 00:51:02.709
- We're gonna see it as aninsight, a blessing, especially
- 00:51:02.742 --> 00:51:07.380
- when it comes from our enemies.
- 00:51:07.414 --> 00:51:08.715
- Your enemies are gonna bethe most honest with you.
- 00:51:08.748 --> 00:51:10.350
- They're not gonna tell youwhat your friends--
- 00:51:10.383 --> 00:51:12.119
- Your friends won't tell you whatyour enemies will be happy
- 00:51:12.152 --> 00:51:13.954
- to tell you.
- 00:51:13.987 --> 00:51:15.422
- There's a gift in that.
- 00:51:15.455 --> 00:51:16.790
- Or are we gonna take it as anoffense?
- 00:51:16.823 --> 00:51:19.693
- Are we gonna take it as anattack on our authority, an
- 00:51:19.726 --> 00:51:22.729
- attack on our office?
- 00:51:22.762 --> 00:51:24.798
- So to lead like Jesus is firstto see feedback, even and
- 00:51:24.831 --> 00:51:30.170
- especially negative feedback,as a gift.
- 00:51:30.203 --> 00:51:33.140
- Number two, how is yoursuccessor planning?
- 00:51:33.173 --> 00:51:37.978
- Jesus from the very beginningwas designing successors.
- 00:51:38.011 --> 00:51:43.150
- He said, "Greater workswill you do."
- 00:51:43.183 --> 00:51:45.152
- From the very beginning, hewanted the 12 to effectively
- 00:51:45.185 --> 00:51:48.688
- replace him in leadership onEarth, and they too
- 00:51:48.722 --> 00:51:52.792
- developed successors.
- 00:51:52.826 --> 00:51:55.061
- When you are in your job, youneed to be developing leaders.
- 00:51:55.095 --> 00:52:00.867
- You need to be a leaderof leaders.
- 00:52:00.901 --> 00:52:03.904
- With your kids, you want to beraising your kids to be--
- 00:52:03.937 --> 00:52:09.309
- it's more important that youraise your kids to be strong
- 00:52:09.342 --> 00:52:11.778
- than it is that you raisethem to be safe.
- 00:52:11.811 --> 00:52:14.414
- You need them as soon aspossible to become the kind
- 00:52:14.447 --> 00:52:18.318
- of people that don't needyou anymore.
- 00:52:18.351 --> 00:52:20.020
- You'll always be there for them,you'll always love them,
- 00:52:20.053 --> 00:52:21.888
- you'll always comfort them,but what if you died?
- 00:52:21.922 --> 00:52:25.158
- You will someday, and when youdo, you want to know that I did
- 00:52:25.192 --> 00:52:29.196
- a good job of training mychildren to lead good lives the
- 00:52:29.229 --> 00:52:35.001
- way I want them to lead.
- 00:52:35.035 --> 00:52:36.503
- "Train up a child they shouldgo," as the Scripture says, "and
- 00:52:36.536 --> 00:52:38.672
- they won't depart from it."
- 00:52:38.705 --> 00:52:40.473
- As a pastor, I need to betraining up other pastors,
- 00:52:40.507 --> 00:52:44.044
- preachers, leaders, churchplanters.
- 00:52:44.077 --> 00:52:46.813
- In your job, you need to betraining people to fill
- 00:52:46.846 --> 00:52:49.616
- your role.
- 00:52:49.649 --> 00:52:50.951
- And as you do this, you're gonnabe learning a lot
- 00:52:50.984 --> 00:52:52.419
- about yourself.
- 00:52:52.452 --> 00:52:53.753
- People that-- especiallyfounding people, founding past--
- 00:52:53.787 --> 00:52:56.056
- there's an old saying thatfounding pastors don't retire,
- 00:52:56.089 --> 00:52:58.992
- founding pastors die.
- 00:52:59.025 --> 00:53:00.760
- That's a sad thing to hear, thatsome of these gigantic,
- 00:53:00.794 --> 00:53:05.098
- influential ministries that havedone so much, they have no
- 00:53:05.131 --> 00:53:09.202
- successor plan and there's nogroup of people that can come up
- 00:53:09.236 --> 00:53:12.772
- from the rear and take over.
- 00:53:12.806 --> 00:53:14.140
- There's a lot of old legendsthat are going out that have no
- 00:53:14.174 --> 00:53:17.677
- plan of what's gonna happen whenthey're gone.
- 00:53:17.711 --> 00:53:19.613
- Okay, so you always, always needto be training leaders to lead
- 00:53:19.646 --> 00:53:24.317
- like Jesus.
- 00:53:24.351 --> 00:53:25.652
- That's what he--that's how he led.
- 00:53:25.685 --> 00:53:27.020
- And number three-- so numberone, how do you respond
- 00:53:27.053 --> 00:53:29.489
- to feedback?
- 00:53:29.522 --> 00:53:30.857
- Number two, are you trainingleaders?
- 00:53:30.890 --> 00:53:32.192
- Are you training successors?
- 00:53:32.225 --> 00:53:33.560
- And number three, who leadsand who follows?
- 00:53:33.593 --> 00:53:37.597
- It should be, ideally, if you'releading like Christ, that
- 00:53:37.631 --> 00:53:40.734
- everything you're doing, you'redoing first as a follower, then
- 00:53:40.767 --> 00:53:44.371
- as a leader.
- 00:53:44.404 --> 00:53:46.239
- Paul said, "Follow me as Ifollow Christ."
- 00:53:46.273 --> 00:53:49.342
- That the first question you'reasking anytime you're making a
- 00:53:49.376 --> 00:53:52.679
- decision, anytime you're tryin'to give influence, is, what
- 00:53:52.712 --> 00:53:56.049
- direction is the Lord going?
- 00:53:56.082 --> 00:53:57.917
- How can I move this corporatemeeting, how can I move this
- 00:53:57.951 --> 00:54:01.521
- family, how can I move thisministry, or this group that I'm
- 00:54:01.554 --> 00:54:05.859
- in, or my classroom, if you'rein school or university?
- 00:54:05.892 --> 00:54:09.362
- How do I find a way-- wherewould Christ be leading this?
- 00:54:09.396 --> 00:54:13.833
- And do your bestto follow that way.
- 00:54:13.867 --> 00:54:15.902
- And then you say, "Follow meas I follow Christ."
- 00:54:15.935 --> 00:54:18.271
- So it's not about your personal,big vision of what you want to
- 00:54:18.305 --> 00:54:21.741
- do, it's aboutwhat does Christ--
- 00:54:21.775 --> 00:54:24.377
- How is Christ gonna bless thisgroup, and how's he gonna carry
- 00:54:24.411 --> 00:54:27.080
- this group?
- 00:54:27.113 --> 00:54:28.448
- And you'll find that it's muchmore endearing, first of all,
- 00:54:28.481 --> 00:54:30.784
- and you'll find that you'll finda lot more joy because it's not
- 00:54:30.817 --> 00:54:33.720
- about your vision, it's aboutthe vision that Christ has that
- 00:54:33.753 --> 00:54:36.856
- he has put in you.
- 00:54:36.890 --> 00:54:38.892
- All of this to simply say--actually, I want to challenge
- 00:54:38.925 --> 00:54:40.960
- you if you're listening tothe sermon on television or
- 00:54:40.994 --> 00:54:43.797
- wherever, and maybe you'renot a believer or a Christian.
- 00:54:43.830 --> 00:54:46.166
- I want to encourage you toemploy these principles, because
- 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:51.738
- we not only trust Jesus as thespiritual Savior of our life,
- 00:54:51.771 --> 00:54:54.941
- but we trust his wisdom, thatwhat he's teaching us is
- 00:54:54.974 --> 00:54:58.411
- actually smart and good for us,that this is actually gonna be
- 00:54:58.445 --> 00:55:02.148
- beneficial to you as a leader.
- 00:55:02.182 --> 00:55:03.950
- Not only are you going to bemore successful in the long run
- 00:55:03.983 --> 00:55:07.120
- if you lead like Jesus, butyou're gonna be a more joyful
- 00:55:07.153 --> 00:55:09.823
- leader, and you might even cometo find out that Jesus is
- 00:55:09.856 --> 00:55:12.625
- exactly who he said he was, thathe's the smartest person who's
- 00:55:12.659 --> 00:55:16.262
- ever lived.
- 00:55:16.296 --> 00:55:17.597
- He didn't say that, but I'msaying that.
- 00:55:17.630 --> 00:55:19.065
- He is the smartest person who'sever lived, that he knows more
- 00:55:19.099 --> 00:55:21.368
- than anybody's ever known, andthen, and that he truly is the
- 00:55:21.401 --> 00:55:25.305
- way that we can come before theFather redeemed and rescued, and
- 00:55:25.338 --> 00:55:29.075
- we thank him for that.
- 00:55:29.109 --> 00:55:30.877
- Friends, I just think you'redoing much better than you think
- 00:55:30.910 --> 00:55:32.746
- you are.
- 00:55:32.779 --> 00:55:34.114
- You're a better parentthan you are.
- 00:55:34.147 --> 00:55:35.448
- You're a better leaderthan you are.
- 00:55:35.482 --> 00:55:36.816
- And continue to allow the Lordto do good work in you.
- 00:55:36.850 --> 00:55:39.919
- Father, we thank you so much forall that you've given to us, all
- 00:55:39.953 --> 00:55:43.723
- the ways that you entrusted us.
- 00:55:43.757 --> 00:55:45.892
- And we pray, God, that we wouldlet go of our egos and our need
- 00:55:45.925 --> 00:55:48.995
- to be recognized, and loved, andadmired, or titles, or offices;
- 00:55:49.028 --> 00:55:53.733
- to let go of those things and tojust go where you want us to go.
- 00:55:53.767 --> 00:55:59.873
- We're not afraid of beingembarrassed, Lord.
- 00:55:59.906 --> 00:56:02.008
- We're not afraid of beingashamed.
- 00:56:02.041 --> 00:56:04.511
- We're not afraid of not beingthanked or not
- 00:56:04.544 --> 00:56:07.680
- getting recognition.
- 00:56:07.714 --> 00:56:09.115
- We're not worried about beingtotally unique and special.
- 00:56:09.149 --> 00:56:12.619
- Lord, we just gotta-- we'regonna let go of all of
- 00:56:12.652 --> 00:56:14.454
- that stuff.
- 00:56:14.487 --> 00:56:15.822
- We know that in your eyes, youtreasure us, and love us,
- 00:56:15.855 --> 00:56:18.992
- and care for us.
- 00:56:19.025 --> 00:56:20.326
- That's enough for us, Lord.
- 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.694
- What a gift that is that theKing of kings and the Lord
- 00:56:21.728 --> 00:56:24.330
- of lords, he smiles over you.
- 00:56:24.364 --> 00:56:25.799
- He blesses you.He calls you.
- 00:56:25.832 --> 00:56:28.501
- He loves you.
- 00:56:28.535 --> 00:56:29.836
- We don't needanybody else's love.
- 00:56:29.869 --> 00:56:31.204
- Lord, we can serve, and trust,and do what you called us to do.
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- We thank you.
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- It's in Jesus's namewe pray, amen.
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- And now, the Lord bless youand keep you.
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- The Lord make his faceto shine upon you
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- and be gracious unto you.
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- The Lord lift his countenanceupon you and give you peace.
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- In the name of the Father,and of the Son,
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- and of the Holy Spirit, amen.
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