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Guests Pastor Allen Jackson and Danielle D'Souza Gill

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November 27, 2020
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  • [MUSIC]- ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THISPROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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  • PROGRAM IS SPONSORED INPART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING
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  • PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVINGTHOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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  • THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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  • OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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  • [SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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  • [BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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  • [PLOP][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][BOINK]
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  • [BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CRASH]
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  • [CRASH][CHEERS]
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  • [CHEERS][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- ERIC: HEY, THERE,
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  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE,FOLKS, WELCOME TO
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  • FOLKS, WELCOME TOTHE ERIC METAXIS SHOW.
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  • THE ERIC METAXIS SHOW.THE BEST PART OF THIS SHOW IS,
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  • THE BEST PART OF THIS SHOW IS,I GET TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS.
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  • I GET TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS.YES.
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  • YES.PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON.
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  • PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON.- ALLEN: HEY, ERIC.
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  • - ALLEN: HEY, ERIC.IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU
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  • IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOUAGAIN.
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  • AGAIN.HOW'S LIFE IN NEW YORK?
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  • HOW'S LIFE IN NEW YORK?- ERIC: I HAVE NO IDEA.
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  • - ERIC: I HAVE NO IDEA.YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ASK
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  • YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ASKME THAT QUESTION, I JUST
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  • ME THAT QUESTION, I JUSTSAY, LIKE, I DON'T REALLY
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  • SAY, LIKE, I DON'T REALLYKNOW.
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  • KNOW.I KNOW HOW LIFE IS IN MY
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  • I KNOW HOW LIFE IS IN MYAPARTMENT BECAUSE--
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  • APARTMENT BECAUSE--YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY
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  • YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTYMUCH THE SAME.
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  • MUCH THE SAME.AND I KNOW HOW LIFE IS
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  • AND I KNOW HOW LIFE ISGOING TO THE AIRPORT AND
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  • GOING TO THE AIRPORT ANDFLYING AROUND THE COUNTRY.
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  • FLYING AROUND THE COUNTRY.BUT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE
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  • BUT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKEWE'RE SPENDING A TON OF
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  • WE'RE SPENDING A TON OFTIME ALL OVER NEW YORK.
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  • TIME ALL OVER NEW YORK.NEW YORK IS KIND OF A
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  • NEW YORK IS KIND OF AMUTED VERSION OF NEW YORK,
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  • MUTED VERSION OF NEW YORK,WHICH IS TO SAY, IT'S NOT
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  • WHICH IS TO SAY, IT'S NOTEXACTLY NEW YORK YET.
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  • EXACTLY NEW YORK YET.BUT WE'RE BELIEVING GOD WE
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  • BUT WE'RE BELIEVING GOD WEWILL RESTORE IT
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  • WILL RESTORE ITEVENTUALLY.
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  • EVENTUALLY.- ALLEN: AMEN.
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  • - ALLEN: AMEN.- ERIC: I KNOW YOU HAVE A
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  • - ERIC: I KNOW YOU HAVE ABOOK OUT AND I WANT TO
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  • BOOK OUT AND I WANT TOTALK TO BUT THIS BOOK.
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  • TALK TO BUT THIS BOOK.BECAUSE, YOU HAVE A BIG
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  • BECAUSE, YOU HAVE A BIGCHURCH IN MURFREESBORO.
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  • CHURCH IN MURFREESBORO.I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBER
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  • I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBEROF TIMES.
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  • OF TIMES.I HOPE I GET TO BE THERE
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  • I HOPE I GET TO BE THEREAGAIN WITH YOU SOON.
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  • AGAIN WITH YOU SOON.- ALLEN: AMEN.
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  • - ALLEN: AMEN.- ERIC: YOU TEACH
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  • - ERIC: YOU TEACHBEAUTIFULLY IN YOUR
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  • BEAUTIFULLY IN YOURSERMONS AND I KNOW THAT
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  • SERMONS AND I KNOW THATYOU'RE ALSO ON TBN, WHICH
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  • YOU'RE ALSO ON TBN, WHICHI WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE.
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  • I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE.THIS IS A BOOK I'M HOLDING
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  • THIS IS A BOOK I'M HOLDINGIN MY HAND CALLED,
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  • IN MY HAND CALLED,"GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN."
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  • "GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN.""A PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE."
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  • "A PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE."AND THESE ARE SOME OF YOUR
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  • AND THESE ARE SOME OF YOURSERMONS ON THIS VERY
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  • SERMONS ON THIS VERYSUBJECT.
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  • SUBJECT.SO WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF
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  • SO WHAT IS AT THE HEART OFTHIS BOOK WHEN YOU SAY GOD
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  • THIS BOOK WHEN YOU SAY GODBLESS AMERICA AGAIN, A
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  • BLESS AMERICA AGAIN, APROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE?
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  • PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE?- ALLEN: I THINK THERE'S
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  • - ALLEN: I THINK THERE'SREALLY TWO COMPONENTS.
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  • REALLY TWO COMPONENTS.ONE, WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE IN
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  • ONE, WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE INTHE MIDST OF THIS MOST
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  • THE MIDST OF THIS MOSTREMARKABLE YEAR.
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  • REMARKABLE YEAR.IT'S LIKE A TSUNAMI OF
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  • IT'S LIKE A TSUNAMI OFCHANGE.
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  • CHANGE.THINGS HAPPENING TO US
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  • THINGS HAPPENING TO USTHAT WE NEVER IMAGINED
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  • THAT WE NEVER IMAGINEDCOULD HAPPEN.
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  • COULD HAPPEN.AND WHEN THERE'S THAT MUCH
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  • AND WHEN THERE'S THAT MUCHCHANGE PUSHED AT US, IT'S
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  • CHANGE PUSHED AT US, IT'SREALLY EASY TO GET
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  • REALLY EASY TO GETDISORIENTED IF YOU DON'T
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  • DISORIENTED IF YOU DON'THAVE A COMPASS POINT FROM
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  • HAVE A COMPASS POINT FROMWHICH YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE
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  • WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF TAKEYOUR BEARINGS AND REORIENT
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  • YOUR BEARINGS AND REORIENTYOURSELF FOR YOUR NEXT
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  • YOURSELF FOR YOUR NEXTDECISIONS.
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  • DECISIONS.SO WE RECOGNIZE THE
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  • SO WE RECOGNIZE THEIMPORTANCE OF TRUTH IN
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  • IMPORTANCE OF TRUTH INSORTING OUT ALL THE CHANGE
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  • SORTING OUT ALL THE CHANGETHAT'S COMING AT US.
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  • THAT'S COMING AT US.AND THEN ALONGSIDE OF
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  • AND THEN ALONGSIDE OFTHAT, WE HAVE THIS
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  • THAT, WE HAVE THISTREMENDOUS HERITAGE AS A
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  • TREMENDOUS HERITAGE AS ANATION OF OUR CHRISTIAN
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  • NATION OF OUR CHRISTIANFAITH.
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  • FAITH.WE'VE NEVER BEEN A
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  • WE'VE NEVER BEEN AUNIQUELY CHRISTIAN NATION
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  • UNIQUELY CHRISTIAN NATIONBUT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN A
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  • BUT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ANATION THAT WAS FOUNDED
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  • NATION THAT WAS FOUNDEDUPON A JUDAEO-CHRISTIAN
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  • UPON A JUDAEO-CHRISTIANWORLDVIEW.
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  • WORLDVIEW.AND TO PUT THOSE TWO
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  • AND TO PUT THOSE TWOTHINGS TOGETHER IS OUR
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  • THINGS TOGETHER IS OURBEST PATH FORWARD THROUGH
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  • BEST PATH FORWARD THROUGHTHIS CONFUSION OF 2020.
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  • THIS CONFUSION OF 2020.SO WE WANTED TO REMIND THE
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  • SO WE WANTED TO REMIND THEPEOPLE BOTH OF OUR
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  • PEOPLE BOTH OF OURHERITAGE AND OF THE VALUE
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  • HERITAGE AND OF THE VALUEOF THE AUTHORITY OF THE
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  • OF THE AUTHORITY OF THEGOD PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU
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  • GOD PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOUARE IN THE MIDST OF THE
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  • ARE IN THE MIDST OF THESEA OF CHANGE.
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  • SEA OF CHANGE.- ERIC: WHEN YOU SAY
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  • - ERIC: WHEN YOU SAYPROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE,
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  • PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE,WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
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  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?HAS THE LORD SPOKEN TO YOU
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  • HAS THE LORD SPOKEN TO YOUPROPHETICALLY ABOUT THE
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  • PROPHETICALLY ABOUT THECOUNTRY?
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  • COUNTRY?IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN?
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  • IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN?OR DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING
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  • OR DO YOU MEAN SOMETHINGELSE, OR BOTH?
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  • ELSE, OR BOTH?- ALLEN: HE SENT A
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  • - ALLEN: HE SENT ATALKING DONKEY TO ME.
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  • TALKING DONKEY TO ME.I'VE GOTTEN THE WHOLE
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  • I'VE GOTTEN THE WHOLEMANUSCRIPT.
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  • MANUSCRIPT.I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU.
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  • I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU.(LAUGHTER)
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  • (LAUGHTER)IN REALITY, WHEN I SAY
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  • IN REALITY, WHEN I SAYPROPHETIC, I DON'T MEAN SO
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  • PROPHETIC, I DON'T MEAN SOMUCH OF FORETELLING,
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  • MUCH OF FORETELLING,ANTICIPATING THE FUTURE,
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  • ANTICIPATING THE FUTURE,BUT PROPHETIC IN THE SENSE
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  • BUT PROPHETIC IN THE SENSEOF IT'S GOD'S PERSPECTIVE
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  • OF IT'S GOD'S PERSPECTIVEON OUR CULTURE.
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  • ON OUR CULTURE.I THINK WHAT WE
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  • I THINK WHAT WEDESPERATELY NEED TO HAVE
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  • DESPERATELY NEED TO HAVEIS A SENSE OF WHAT WOULD
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  • IS A SENSE OF WHAT WOULDGOD SAY TO US?
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  • GOD SAY TO US?NOT SO MUCH TO THE PAGANS,
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  • NOT SO MUCH TO THE PAGANS,WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO HIS
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  • WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO HISPEOPLE?
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  • PEOPLE?I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEMS
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  • I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEMSWE'RE FACING IS THE RESULT
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  • WE'RE FACING IS THE RESULTOF THE DEPRAVITY OF THE
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  • OF THE DEPRAVITY OF THEUNGODLY.
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  • UNGODLY.I THINK THE CHALLENGES WE
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  • I THINK THE CHALLENGES WEHAVE ARE BECAUSE OF THE
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  • HAVE ARE BECAUSE OF THEINDIFFERENCE OF THE
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  • INDIFFERENCE OF THEFAITHFUL.
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  • FAITHFUL.AND KNOWS OF US WHO
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  • AND KNOWS OF US WHOIMAGINE OURSELVES TO BE
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  • IMAGINE OURSELVES TO BECHRIST FOLLOWERS, WE NEED
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  • CHRIST FOLLOWERS, WE NEEDTO UNDERSTAND WHAT GOD HAS
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  • TO UNDERSTAND WHAT GOD HASFOR US IN THIS SEASON.
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  • FOR US IN THIS SEASON.WE ARE NOT POWERLESS.
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  • WE ARE NOT POWERLESS.WE'RE ON A ASSIGNMENT.
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  • WE'RE ON A ASSIGNMENT.AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST
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  • AND SO WE'RE NOT JUSTBEING SWEPT ALONG BY EVENTS,
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  • BEING SWEPT ALONG BY EVENTS,WE NEED TO BE INITIATING
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  • WE NEED TO BE INITIATINGWHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR
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  • WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OURNATION AND IN OUR
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  • NATION AND IN OURCOMMUNITIES, AND SO FROM
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  • COMMUNITIES, AND SO FROMTHAT VANTAGE POINT, IT'S A
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  • THAT VANTAGE POINT, IT'S APROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE.
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  • PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE.- ERIC: BEFORE I FORGET,
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  • - ERIC: BEFORE I FORGET,LET ME ASK YOU, IF PEOPLE
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  • LET ME ASK YOU, IF PEOPLEWANT TO HEAR YOU PREACHING
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  • WANT TO HEAR YOU PREACHINGONLINE ON A SUNDAY, WHERE
  • 00:04:01.954 --> 00:04:02.689
  • ONLINE ON A SUNDAY, WHEREWOULD THEY GO?
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  • WOULD THEY GO?WHAT'S THE BEST PLACE FOR
  • 00:04:03.489 --> 00:04:04.524
  • WHAT'S THE BEST PLACE FORTHEM TO GO?
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  • THEM TO GO?- ALLEN: IF THEY GOOGLE
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  • - ALLEN: IF THEY GOOGLEPASTOR ALLEN JACKSON, IT
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  • PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON, ITWILL GIVE THEM A VARIETY
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  • WILL GIVE THEM A VARIETYBUT THERE IS ALlENJACKSON.COM.
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  • BUT THERE IS ALlENJACKSON.COM.YOU CAN GO TO THE CHURCH'S
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  • YOU CAN GO TO THE CHURCH'SWEB SITE, BUT IF THEY WILL
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  • WEB SITE, BUT IF THEY WILLJUST GOOGLE
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  • JUST GOOGLEPASTOR ALLEN JACKSON,
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  • PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON,THEY WILL GET A VARIETY
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  • THEY WILL GET A VARIETYOF PLATFORMS--
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  • OF PLATFORMS--WE LIVE STREAM--
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  • WE LIVE STREAM--- ERIC: AND ALLEN,
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  • - ERIC: AND ALLEN,OF COURSE, IS A-L-L-E-N.
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  • OF COURSE, IS A-L-L-E-N.YOU DON'T DO COUNTRY MUSIC
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  • YOU DON'T DO COUNTRY MUSICON THE SIDE.
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  • ON THE SIDE.I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
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  • I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.YOU'RE ACTUALLY A FULL
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  • YOU'RE ACTUALLY A FULLTIME PASTOR.
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  • TIME PASTOR.AND THE NAME OF THE CHURCH
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  • AND THE NAME OF THE CHURCHONLINE?
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  • ONLINE?JUST SO I CAN GIVE MY
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  • JUST SO I CAN GIVE MYAUDIENCE THAT.
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  • AUDIENCE THAT.- ALLEN: IT'S WORLD
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  • - ALLEN: IT'S WORLDOUTREACH CHURCH.
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  • OUTREACH CHURCH.ONLINE IT'S WOCHURCH.ORG.
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  • ONLINE IT'S WOCHURCH.ORG.- ERIC: I SAY THIS,
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  • - ERIC: I SAY THIS,ALLEN, WE'RE FRIENDS, BUT
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  • ALLEN, WE'RE FRIENDS, BUTI THINK THAT A LOT OF
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  • I THINK THAT A LOT OFPEOPLE NEED GOOD TEACHING.
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  • PEOPLE NEED GOOD TEACHING.I OFTEN TALK TO PEOPLE WHO
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  • I OFTEN TALK TO PEOPLE WHOSAY THEY'RE CHRISTIANS.
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  • SAY THEY'RE CHRISTIANS.I SAY WHERE DO YOU GO TO
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  • I SAY WHERE DO YOU GO TOCHURCH?
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  • CHURCH?I GET THAT LOOK ON THEIR
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  • I GET THAT LOOK ON THEIRFACE.
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  • FACE.YOU KNOW THAT.
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  • YOU KNOW THAT.YOU TRAVEL ON PLANES, YOU
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  • YOU TRAVEL ON PLANES, YOUTALK TO PEOPLE.
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  • TALK TO PEOPLE.IT REALLY MEANS THEY ARE
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  • IT REALLY MEANS THEY ARENOT GETTING FED OR THEY
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  • NOT GETTING FED OR THEYWILL GIVE YOU SOME ANSWER
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  • WILL GIVE YOU SOME ANSWERLIKE, WELL, I'M CATHOLIC
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  • LIKE, WELL, I'M CATHOLICAND I-- I GO, I'M NOT
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  • AND I-- I GO, I'M NOTINTERESTED IN THAT, I'M
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  • INTERESTED IN THAT, I'MINTERESTED IN HOW ARE YOU
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  • INTERESTED IN HOW ARE YOUGETTING FED?
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  • GETTING FED?ARE YOU GETTING FED?
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  • ARE YOU GETTING FED?ARE YOU GETTING GOOD BIBLE
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  • ARE YOU GETTING GOOD BIBLETEACHING?
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  • TEACHING?ARE YOU GETTING
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  • ARE YOU GETTINGENTERTAINING BIBLE
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  • ENTERTAINING BIBLETEACHING?
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  • TEACHING?IF IT'S GOOD, IT'S USUALLY
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  • IF IT'S GOOD, IT'S USUALLYALSO ENTERTAINING.
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  • ALSO ENTERTAINING.I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE I
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  • I JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE IKNOW A NUMBER OF PASTORS
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  • KNOW A NUMBER OF PASTORSLIKE YOU THAT ARE JUST
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  • LIKE YOU THAT ARE JUSTWONDERFUL PREACHERS AND
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  • WONDERFUL PREACHERS ANDTEACHERS AND I SAY TO
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  • TEACHERS AND I SAY TOPEOPLE, LIKE, YOU DON'T
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  • PEOPLE, LIKE, YOU DON'THAVE TO LEAVE YOUR CHURCH,
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  • HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR CHURCH,BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
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  • BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THATON A SUNDAY EVENING YOU
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  • ON A SUNDAY EVENING YOUMIGHT WANT TO TUNE IN TO
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  • MIGHT WANT TO TUNE IN TOWHAT SO AND SO HAD TO SAY
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  • WHAT SO AND SO HAD TO SAYTHAT DAY OR WHAT SO AND
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  • THAT DAY OR WHAT SO ANDSO-- THIS IDEA THAT I GO
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  • SO-- THIS IDEA THAT I GOAND LISTEN TO MY SERMON
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  • AND LISTEN TO MY SERMONAND I'M DONE, YOU KNOW, WE
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  • AND I'M DONE, YOU KNOW, WENEED MORE GOOD TEACHING.
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  • NEED MORE GOOD TEACHING.THAT'S MY WAY OF SAYING
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  • THAT'S MY WAY OF SAYINGTHAT YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
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  • THAT YOU'RE WONDERFUL.ONE DAY MY SHOW WAS ON TBN
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  • ONE DAY MY SHOW WAS ON TBNAND MY PARENTS WERE
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  • AND MY PARENTS WEREWATCHING IT.
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  • WATCHING IT.THEY JUST LEFT IT ON TBN.
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  • THEY JUST LEFT IT ON TBN.YOU CAME ON AFTER ME.
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  • YOU CAME ON AFTER ME.AND THEY WERE LIKE, WHO'S
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  • AND THEY WERE LIKE, WHO'STHIS GUY?
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  • THIS GUY?THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF.
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  • THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF.I WAS ABLE TO SORT OF
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  • I WAS ABLE TO SORT OFBLUSH AND SAY,
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  • BLUSH AND SAY,HE'S A PERSONAL FRIEND
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  • HE'S A PERSONAL FRIENDAND I AGREE,
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  • AND I AGREE,HE IS REALLY WONDERFUL.
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  • HE IS REALLY WONDERFUL.BUT I DON'T CARE HOW
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  • BUT I DON'T CARE HOWPEOPLE ARE GETTING IT.
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  • PEOPLE ARE GETTING IT.IF IT'S FROM TV OR THE
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  • IF IT'S FROM TV OR THEINTERNET--
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  • INTERNET--- ALLEN: AMEN.
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  • - ALLEN: AMEN.- ERIC: I JUST THINK THAT
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  • - ERIC: I JUST THINK THATPEOPLE NEED GOOD TEACHING.
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  • PEOPLE NEED GOOD TEACHING.I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS
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  • I JUST WANTED TO SAY THISTHAT IF YOU NEED TO GO TO
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  • THAT IF YOU NEED TO GO TOWOCHURCH.ORG
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  • WOCHURCH.ORGOR YOU NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE,
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  • OR YOU NEED TO GO SOMEPLACE,BUT FOLKS,
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  • BUT FOLKS,WE NEED TO GET FED.
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  • WE NEED TO GET FED.IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING FED,
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  • IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING FED,THERE'S A PROBLEM AND
  • 00:06:15.421 --> 00:06:16.556
  • THERE'S A PROBLEM ANDWORSHIP IS ANOTHER ONE OF
  • 00:06:16.556 --> 00:06:17.223
  • WORSHIP IS ANOTHER ONE OFTHOSE ISSUES, WE NEED
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  • THOSE ISSUES, WE NEEDWORSHIP.
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  • WORSHIP.BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
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  • BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.SO TO GET BACK TO THE
  • 00:06:19.859 --> 00:06:20.560
  • SO TO GET BACK TO THEBOOK, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
  • 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:22.128
  • BOOK, WHAT ARE SOME OF THEMESSAGES THAT YOU BRING
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  • MESSAGES THAT YOU BRINGFORTH IN SOME OF THESE
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  • FORTH IN SOME OF THESESERMONS?
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  • SERMONS?- ALLEN: I THINK ONE OF
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  • - ALLEN: I THINK ONE OFTHE POINTS IS JUST TO
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  • THE POINTS IS JUST TOREMIND THE PEOPLE OF OUR
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  • REMIND THE PEOPLE OF OURCHRISTIAN HERITAGE, IN ALL
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  • CHRISTIAN HERITAGE, IN ALLTHE TURMOIL OF THIS YEAR
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  • THE TURMOIL OF THIS YEARAND ALL THE DISCUSSIONS
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  • AND ALL THE DISCUSSIONSAROUND SOCIAL JUSTICE AND
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  • AROUND SOCIAL JUSTICE ANDTEARING DOWN OUR STATUES
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  • TEARING DOWN OUR STATUESAND THE RETELLING OF OUR
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  • AND THE RETELLING OF OURHISTORY, I THINK IT'S
  • 00:06:36.742 --> 00:06:38.177
  • HISTORY, I THINK IT'SIMPORTANT THAT WE REMIND
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  • IMPORTANT THAT WE REMINDTHE PEOPLE OF OUR HERITAGE
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  • THE PEOPLE OF OUR HERITAGEOF FAITH FROM THE PURITANS
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  • OF FAITH FROM THE PURITANSOR THE SEPARATISTS AND
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  • OR THE SEPARATISTS ANDWILLIAM BRADFORD.
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  • WILLIAM BRADFORD.RIGHT THROUGH OUR HISTORY.
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  • RIGHT THROUGH OUR HISTORY.THESE REMARKABLE TIMES
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  • THESE REMARKABLE TIMESWHEN WE'VE HAD AWAKENINGS
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  • WHEN WE'VE HAD AWAKENINGSAND RENEWALS AND REVIVALS
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  • AND RENEWALS AND REVIVALSTHAT HAVE SHAPED OUR LEGAL
  • 00:06:49.689 --> 00:06:51.057
  • THAT HAVE SHAPED OUR LEGALSYSTEMS AND THE PRIVILEGES
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  • SYSTEMS AND THE PRIVILEGESAND FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES
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  • AND FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIESWE HAVE, ALL OF THOSE
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  • WE HAVE, ALL OF THOSETHINGS HAVE COME FROM OUR
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  • THINGS HAVE COME FROM OURFAITH.
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  • FAITH.- ERIC: TALK ABOUT THAT A
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  • - ERIC: TALK ABOUT THAT ALITTLE BIT.
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  • LITTLE BIT.BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF
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  • BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OFTHIS STUFF BUT I CANNOT
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  • THIS STUFF BUT I CANNOTGET ENOUGH OF IT.
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  • GET ENOUGH OF IT.I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT IT.
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  • I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT IT.BUT MOST AMERICANS DON'T
  • 00:07:01.634 --> 00:07:02.802
  • BUT MOST AMERICANS DON'TREALLY KNOW HOW CLEAR THIS
  • 00:07:02.802 --> 00:07:05.771
  • REALLY KNOW HOW CLEAR THISIS.
  • 00:07:05.771 --> 00:07:06.973
  • IS.THAT THE LINK BETWEEN
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  • THAT THE LINK BETWEENCHRISTIAN FAITH AND HOW WE
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  • CHRISTIAN FAITH AND HOW WEGOT TO BE THE UNITED
  • 00:07:09.909 --> 00:07:10.776
  • GOT TO BE THE UNITEDSTATES OF AMERICA AND HOW
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  • STATES OF AMERICA AND HOWWE GOT TO STAY THE UNITED
  • 00:07:12.745 --> 00:07:14.046
  • WE GOT TO STAY THE UNITEDSTATES OF AMERICA.
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  • STATES OF AMERICA.AND HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO
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  • AND HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TOSTAY THE UNITED STATES OF
  • 00:07:15.381 --> 00:07:16.249
  • STAY THE UNITED STATES OFAMERICA.
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  • AMERICA.SO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT
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  • SO TALK A LITTLE ABOUTTHAT, ABOUT BRADFORD AND
  • 00:07:17.984 --> 00:07:18.584
  • THAT, ABOUT BRADFORD ANDSOME OF THAT STUFF.
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  • SOME OF THAT STUFF.- ALLEN: MOST OF US
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  • - ALLEN: MOST OF USEITHER HAVE FORGOTTEN OR
  • 00:07:19.652 --> 00:07:20.319
  • EITHER HAVE FORGOTTEN ORPERHAPS WERE NEVER TAUGHT
  • 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:21.387
  • PERHAPS WERE NEVER TAUGHTTHAT THIS NATION REALLY
  • 00:07:21.387 --> 00:07:22.788
  • THAT THIS NATION REALLYEMERGED FROM THIS DESIRE
  • 00:07:22.788 --> 00:07:25.124
  • EMERGED FROM THIS DESIRETO BE ABLE TO WORSHIP
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  • TO BE ABLE TO WORSHIPJESUS WITH FREEDOM.
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  • JESUS WITH FREEDOM.AND THE WHOLE NOTION EVEN
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  • AND THE WHOLE NOTION EVENOF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND
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  • OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH ANDSTATE WASN'T THAT THE
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  • STATE WASN'T THAT THECHURCH SHOULDN'T INFORM
  • 00:07:32.532 --> 00:07:34.934
  • CHURCH SHOULDN'T INFORMTHE STATE, WE DIDN'T WANT
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  • THE STATE, WE DIDN'T WANTTO HAVE A CHURCH THAT WAS
  • 00:07:35.501 --> 00:07:36.269
  • TO HAVE A CHURCH THAT WASDOMINATED BY THE STATE.
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  • DOMINATED BY THE STATE.BECAUSE ALL THE WAY BACK
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  • BECAUSE ALL THE WAY BACKTO THE PURITANS, THEY WERE
  • 00:07:38.170 --> 00:07:39.338
  • TO THE PURITANS, THEY WEREFLEEING ENGLAND WHERE A
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  • FLEEING ENGLAND WHERE ASTATE CHURCH HAD BEEN
  • 00:07:41.073 --> 00:07:41.908
  • STATE CHURCH HAD BEENOPPRESSIVE.
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  • OPPRESSIVE.EVEN A CHRISTIAN STATE
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  • EVEN A CHRISTIAN STATECHURCH WAS DOMINATING
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  • CHURCH WAS DOMINATINGTHEIR LIVES AND
  • 00:07:45.011 --> 00:07:45.912
  • THEIR LIVES ANDCONFISCATING THEIR
  • 00:07:45.912 --> 00:07:47.613
  • CONFISCATING THEIRPROPERTY.
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  • PROPERTY.SO THEY MADE THE
  • 00:07:48.814 --> 00:07:49.348
  • SO THEY MADE THESACRIFICIAL TRIP TO THIS
  • 00:07:49.348 --> 00:07:50.550
  • SACRIFICIAL TRIP TO THISNATION.
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  • NATION.BRADFORD AND THOSE PEOPLE
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  • BRADFORD AND THOSE PEOPLETHAT CAME WITH HIM ALMOST
  • 00:07:53.419 --> 00:07:53.886
  • THAT CAME WITH HIM ALMOSTHALF OF THEM DIED THAT
  • 00:07:53.886 --> 00:07:54.387
  • HALF OF THEM DIED THATFIRST WINTER THEY WERE
  • 00:07:54.387 --> 00:07:56.923
  • FIRST WINTER THEY WEREHERE.
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  • HERE.THEY COULD HAVE RETURNED
  • 00:07:58.824 --> 00:07:59.692
  • THEY COULD HAVE RETURNEDHOME BUT THEY CHOSE TO
  • 00:07:59.692 --> 00:08:00.626
  • HOME BUT THEY CHOSE TOSTAY KNOWING THE PERIL
  • 00:08:00.626 --> 00:08:01.694
  • STAY KNOWING THE PERILTHAT WAS IN THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:08:01.694 --> 00:08:02.562
  • THAT WAS IN THAT BECAUSETHEY WERE SO DESPERATE FOR
  • 00:08:02.562 --> 00:08:04.497
  • THEY WERE SO DESPERATE FORA FREEDOM TO WORSHIP
  • 00:08:04.497 --> 00:08:05.665
  • A FREEDOM TO WORSHIPWITHOUT ANY INTERFERENCE
  • 00:08:05.665 --> 00:08:06.165
  • WITHOUT ANY INTERFERENCEFROM THE GOVERNMENT OR
  • 00:08:06.165 --> 00:08:08.200
  • FROM THE GOVERNMENT ORFROM THE KING.
  • 00:08:08.200 --> 00:08:08.701
  • FROM THE KING.AND YOU PULL THAT RIGHT
  • 00:08:08.701 --> 00:08:09.936
  • AND YOU PULL THAT RIGHTFORWARD FROM JONATHAN
  • 00:08:09.936 --> 00:08:10.770
  • FORWARD FROM JONATHANEDWARDS AND THE GREAT
  • 00:08:10.770 --> 00:08:11.671
  • EDWARDS AND THE GREATAWAKENING, THE IMPACT THAT
  • 00:08:11.671 --> 00:08:13.172
  • AWAKENING, THE IMPACT THATHAD ON YOUR PART OF THE
  • 00:08:13.172 --> 00:08:15.875
  • HAD ON YOUR PART OF THEWORLD AND YOU PULL IT
  • 00:08:15.875 --> 00:08:16.475
  • WORLD AND YOU PULL ITRIGHT FORWARD THROUGH OUR
  • 00:08:16.475 --> 00:08:17.009
  • RIGHT FORWARD THROUGH OURHISTORY,
  • 00:08:17.009 --> 00:08:17.476
  • HISTORY,GEORGE WHITFIELD,
  • 00:08:17.476 --> 00:08:17.944
  • GEORGE WHITFIELD,CHARLES WESLEY,
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  • CHARLES WESLEY,THE WESTERN REVIVAL JUST
  • 00:08:18.444 --> 00:08:19.812
  • THE WESTERN REVIVAL JUSTNORTH OF US IN KENTUCKY
  • 00:08:19.812 --> 00:08:20.913
  • NORTH OF US IN KENTUCKYTHAT REALLY CHANGED THE
  • 00:08:20.913 --> 00:08:22.448
  • THAT REALLY CHANGED THEFRONTIER SO MUCH.
  • 00:08:22.448 --> 00:08:24.717
  • FRONTIER SO MUCH.IT IS INSEPARABLE FROM OUR
  • 00:08:24.717 --> 00:08:25.751
  • IT IS INSEPARABLE FROM OURHISTORY THE IMPACT OF OUR
  • 00:08:25.751 --> 00:08:29.689
  • HISTORY THE IMPACT OF OURFAITH AND IT SHAPED THE
  • 00:08:29.689 --> 00:08:31.057
  • FAITH AND IT SHAPED THEFREEDOMS WHETHER IT'S BEEN
  • 00:08:31.057 --> 00:08:31.857
  • FREEDOMS WHETHER IT'S BEENOUR OWN IMAGINATION OF
  • 00:08:31.857 --> 00:08:33.426
  • OUR OWN IMAGINATION OFCIVIL RIGHTS OR WOMEN'S
  • 00:08:33.426 --> 00:08:34.327
  • CIVIL RIGHTS OR WOMEN'SRIGHTS OR OUR PROTECTION
  • 00:08:34.327 --> 00:08:36.128
  • RIGHTS OR OUR PROTECTIONAROUND CHILDREN AND CHILD
  • 00:08:36.128 --> 00:08:38.998
  • AROUND CHILDREN AND CHILDLABOR, ALL OF THOSE THINGS
  • 00:08:38.998 --> 00:08:39.532
  • LABOR, ALL OF THOSE THINGSWE CELEBRATE AS LIBERTIES
  • 00:08:39.532 --> 00:08:41.267
  • WE CELEBRATE AS LIBERTIESTHAT ARE IN MANY WAYS UNIQUE
  • 00:08:41.267 --> 00:08:41.734
  • THAT ARE IN MANY WAYS UNIQUETO OUR NATION AND
  • 00:08:41.734 --> 00:08:42.568
  • TO OUR NATION ANDOUR HISTORY.
  • 00:08:42.568 --> 00:08:44.103
  • OUR HISTORY.OUR MOST REVERED BUILDINGS
  • 00:08:44.103 --> 00:08:45.705
  • OUR MOST REVERED BUILDINGSIN WASHINGTON DC ALL HAVE
  • 00:08:45.705 --> 00:08:46.238
  • IN WASHINGTON DC ALL HAVESCRIPTURES CARVED IN THE
  • 00:08:46.238 --> 00:08:50.176
  • SCRIPTURES CARVED IN THESTONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
  • 00:08:50.176 --> 00:08:50.977
  • STONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.SO IT'S LAUGHABLE WHEN
  • 00:08:50.977 --> 00:08:51.944
  • SO IT'S LAUGHABLE WHENSOMEONE SAYS WE'RE NOT A
  • 00:08:51.944 --> 00:08:52.878
  • SOMEONE SAYS WE'RE NOT ANATION WITH A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:08:52.878 --> 00:08:53.546
  • NATION WITH A CHRISTIANHERITAGE.
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  • HERITAGE.WE'VE NEVER BEEN 100%
  • 00:08:54.580 --> 00:08:55.615
  • WE'VE NEVER BEEN 100%CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:08:55.615 --> 00:08:56.449
  • CHRISTIAN.I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO
  • 00:08:56.449 --> 00:08:57.183
  • I DON'T THINK WE WANT TOBE.
  • 00:08:57.183 --> 00:08:58.484
  • BE.THE FACT WE HAVE THAT
  • 00:08:58.484 --> 00:08:59.685
  • THE FACT WE HAVE THATJUDAEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGE
  • 00:08:59.685 --> 00:09:00.953
  • JUDAEO-CHRISTIAN HERITAGETHAT'S INFORMED OUR LEGAL
  • 00:09:00.953 --> 00:09:02.088
  • THAT'S INFORMED OUR LEGALSYSTEM AND OUR FOUNDING
  • 00:09:02.088 --> 00:09:05.024
  • SYSTEM AND OUR FOUNDINGDOCUMENTS AND OUR MOST
  • 00:09:05.024 --> 00:09:05.925
  • DOCUMENTS AND OUR MOSTREVERED UNIVERSITIES IS
  • 00:09:05.925 --> 00:09:07.159
  • REVERED UNIVERSITIES ISWHAT MADE US A DIVERSE
  • 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:08.628
  • WHAT MADE US A DIVERSEPLACE.
  • 00:09:08.628 --> 00:09:09.695
  • PLACE.- ERIC: WE'RE NOT TALKING
  • 00:09:09.695 --> 00:09:11.631
  • - ERIC: WE'RE NOT TALKINGABOUT A COUNTRY THAT WAS
  • 00:09:11.631 --> 00:09:12.932
  • ABOUT A COUNTRY THAT WASFOUNDED TO BE A THEOCRACY.
  • 00:09:12.932 --> 00:09:14.100
  • FOUNDED TO BE A THEOCRACY.YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THIS
  • 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:15.301
  • YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THISIS WHAT MAKES THE
  • 00:09:15.301 --> 00:09:16.636
  • IS WHAT MAKES THECHRISTIAN FAITH SO SPECIAL
  • 00:09:16.636 --> 00:09:17.970
  • CHRISTIAN FAITH SO SPECIALAND IT'S WHAT MAKES
  • 00:09:17.970 --> 00:09:18.871
  • AND IT'S WHAT MAKESAMERICA SO SPECIAL IS THAT
  • 00:09:18.871 --> 00:09:20.072
  • AMERICA SO SPECIAL IS THATWE UNDERSTAND, YOU CANNOT
  • 00:09:20.072 --> 00:09:21.707
  • WE UNDERSTAND, YOU CANNOTFORCE PEOPLE TO BE PEOPLE
  • 00:09:21.707 --> 00:09:23.709
  • FORCE PEOPLE TO BE PEOPLEOF FAITH.
  • 00:09:23.709 --> 00:09:25.878
  • OF FAITH.GOD HAS TO DO THAT.
  • 00:09:25.878 --> 00:09:27.480
  • GOD HAS TO DO THAT.YOU CAN CREATE A SYSTEM
  • 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.448
  • YOU CAN CREATE A SYSTEMWHERE IT'S POSSIBLE FOR
  • 00:09:29.448 --> 00:09:29.949
  • WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE FORTHEM TO BE FREE AND TO
  • 00:09:29.949 --> 00:09:31.384
  • THEM TO BE FREE AND TOWORSHIP.
  • 00:09:31.384 --> 00:09:32.752
  • WORSHIP.BUT NO ONE CAN LEGISLATE
  • 00:09:32.752 --> 00:09:34.186
  • BUT NO ONE CAN LEGISLATEFAITH.
  • 00:09:34.186 --> 00:09:36.288
  • FAITH.THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON
  • 00:09:36.288 --> 00:09:36.856
  • THAT'S THE WHOLE REASONRAFTS OF THEM, SHIPS OF
  • 00:09:36.856 --> 00:09:38.924
  • RAFTS OF THEM, SHIPS OFTHEM CAME OVER HERE
  • 00:09:38.924 --> 00:09:40.393
  • THEM CAME OVER HEREBECAUSE THEY WANTED TO
  • 00:09:40.393 --> 00:09:42.695
  • BECAUSE THEY WANTED TOPURSUE GOD WITH FREEDOM.
  • 00:09:42.695 --> 00:09:44.830
  • PURSUE GOD WITH FREEDOM.WE FORGET THAT'S HOW WE
  • 00:09:44.830 --> 00:09:45.798
  • WE FORGET THAT'S HOW WESTARTED AND WE FORGET
  • 00:09:45.798 --> 00:09:47.133
  • STARTED AND WE FORGETTHAT'S REALLY AT THE HEART
  • 00:09:47.133 --> 00:09:47.933
  • THAT'S REALLY AT THE HEARTOF OUR LEGACY.
  • 00:09:47.933 --> 00:09:48.734
  • OF OUR LEGACY.THERE'S JUST NO DENYING
  • 00:09:48.734 --> 00:09:49.635
  • THERE'S JUST NO DENYINGIT.
  • 00:09:49.635 --> 00:09:51.504
  • IT.BUT PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND
  • 00:09:51.504 --> 00:09:52.805
  • BUT PEOPLE MISUNDERSTANDTHAT AND THEY SEEM TO
  • 00:09:52.805 --> 00:09:54.940
  • THAT AND THEY SEEM TOTHINK THAT THE SEPARATION
  • 00:09:54.940 --> 00:09:56.175
  • THINK THAT THE SEPARATIONOF CHURCH AND STATE MEANS
  • 00:09:56.175 --> 00:09:57.743
  • OF CHURCH AND STATE MEANSWE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEPARATE
  • 00:09:57.743 --> 00:09:59.145
  • WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEPARATETHE CHURCHES, PUSH THEM
  • 00:09:59.145 --> 00:10:01.147
  • THE CHURCHES, PUSH THEMOUT OF THE WHOLE CULTURE
  • 00:10:01.147 --> 00:10:02.048
  • OUT OF THE WHOLE CULTUREOR OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT
  • 00:10:02.048 --> 00:10:03.482
  • OR OUT OF THE GOVERNMENTWHICH IS NONSENSE.
  • 00:10:03.482 --> 00:10:05.284
  • WHICH IS NONSENSE.IT MEANS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO
  • 00:10:05.284 --> 00:10:06.552
  • IT MEANS WE'RE SUPPOSED TOKEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF
  • 00:10:06.552 --> 00:10:07.987
  • KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OFTHE CHURCHES AND THAT'S
  • 00:10:07.987 --> 00:10:09.088
  • THE CHURCHES AND THAT'SSOMETHING THAT
  • 00:10:09.088 --> 00:10:10.489
  • SOMETHING THATUNFORTUNATELY THE LEFT HAS
  • 00:10:10.489 --> 00:10:14.627
  • UNFORTUNATELY THE LEFT HASCEASED TO UNDERSTAND AND
  • 00:10:14.627 --> 00:10:15.828
  • CEASED TO UNDERSTAND ANDIS INCREASINGLY PUSHING
  • 00:10:15.828 --> 00:10:18.030
  • IS INCREASINGLY PUSHINGULTIMATE VIEWS ABOUT LIFE
  • 00:10:18.030 --> 00:10:19.432
  • ULTIMATE VIEWS ABOUT LIFEAND THINGS THAT BEAR ON
  • 00:10:19.432 --> 00:10:21.434
  • AND THINGS THAT BEAR ONOUR OWN RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
  • 00:10:21.434 --> 00:10:22.568
  • OUR OWN RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.THEY ARE PUSHING THOSE
  • 00:10:22.568 --> 00:10:24.503
  • THEY ARE PUSHING THOSETHINGS ON PEOPLE OF FAITH.
  • 00:10:24.503 --> 00:10:26.005
  • THINGS ON PEOPLE OF FAITH.THAT'S MY SERMON.
  • 00:10:26.005 --> 00:10:27.273
  • THAT'S MY SERMON.BUT, TELL US AGAIN, YOU
  • 00:10:27.273 --> 00:10:28.641
  • BUT, TELL US AGAIN, YOUWERE TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:10:28.641 --> 00:10:30.843
  • WERE TALKING ABOUT THEROOTS OF AMERICA AND THE
  • 00:10:30.843 --> 00:10:32.378
  • ROOTS OF AMERICA AND THEROOTS OF FAITH IN AMERICA
  • 00:10:32.378 --> 00:10:33.779
  • ROOTS OF FAITH IN AMERICAAND HOW WE DEVELOPED INTO
  • 00:10:33.779 --> 00:10:35.114
  • AND HOW WE DEVELOPED INTOTHE COUNTRY WE ARE TODAY.
  • 00:10:35.114 --> 00:10:35.948
  • THE COUNTRY WE ARE TODAY.- ALLEN: THE PRINCIPLES
  • 00:10:35.948 --> 00:10:38.217
  • - ALLEN: THE PRINCIPLESOF OUR FOUNDING DOCUMENTS
  • 00:10:38.217 --> 00:10:39.585
  • OF OUR FOUNDING DOCUMENTSWERE DERIVED FROM A
  • 00:10:39.585 --> 00:10:40.453
  • WERE DERIVED FROM ABIBLICAL WORLDVIEW.
  • 00:10:40.453 --> 00:10:41.520
  • BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW.EVEN IF THE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:10:41.520 --> 00:10:42.121
  • EVEN IF THE PEOPLE THATPUT THEM TOGETHER WEREN'T
  • 00:10:42.121 --> 00:10:43.189
  • PUT THEM TOGETHER WEREN'TPERFECT CHRISTIANS, WE'VE
  • 00:10:43.189 --> 00:10:44.423
  • PERFECT CHRISTIANS, WE'VEONLY HAD ONE PERFECT GOD
  • 00:10:44.423 --> 00:10:46.492
  • ONLY HAD ONE PERFECT GODPERSON AND WE CRUCIFIED
  • 00:10:46.492 --> 00:10:47.526
  • PERSON AND WE CRUCIFIEDHIM BECAUSE HE PUT TOO
  • 00:10:47.526 --> 00:10:48.394
  • HIM BECAUSE HE PUT TOOMUCH PRESSURE ON THE REST
  • 00:10:48.394 --> 00:10:50.629
  • MUCH PRESSURE ON THE RESTOF US.
  • 00:10:50.629 --> 00:10:51.297
  • OF US.BUT THOSE MEN THAT SPOKE
  • 00:10:51.297 --> 00:10:52.331
  • BUT THOSE MEN THAT SPOKEINTO THOSE FOUNDING
  • 00:10:52.331 --> 00:10:54.033
  • INTO THOSE FOUNDINGDOCUMENTS, THOSE IDEAS
  • 00:10:54.033 --> 00:10:55.267
  • DOCUMENTS, THOSE IDEASWERE DISTILLED FROM THE
  • 00:10:55.267 --> 00:10:56.802
  • WERE DISTILLED FROM THESCRIPTURES FROM A
  • 00:10:56.802 --> 00:10:57.570
  • SCRIPTURES FROM AJUDAEO-CHRISTIAN
  • 00:10:57.570 --> 00:11:00.940
  • JUDAEO-CHRISTIANWORLDVIEW.
  • 00:11:00.940 --> 00:11:01.407
  • WORLDVIEW.THESE NOTIONS THAT WE
  • 00:11:01.407 --> 00:11:02.208
  • THESE NOTIONS THAT WEARE ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR
  • 00:11:02.208 --> 00:11:03.642
  • ARE ENDOWED BY OUR CREATORWITH CERTAIN IDEALS THAT
  • 00:11:03.642 --> 00:11:04.610
  • WITH CERTAIN IDEALS THATHAD TO BE PROTECTED BY THE
  • 00:11:04.610 --> 00:11:06.378
  • HAD TO BE PROTECTED BY THECOMMON PUBLIC,
  • 00:11:06.378 --> 00:11:08.614
  • COMMON PUBLIC,THOSE WERE GROUNDBREAKING
  • 00:11:08.614 --> 00:11:09.181
  • THOSE WERE GROUNDBREAKINGIDEAS WHEN THEY WERE FIRST
  • 00:11:09.181 --> 00:11:09.582
  • IDEAS WHEN THEY WERE FIRSTPUT FORTH.
  • 00:11:09.582 --> 00:11:10.816
  • PUT FORTH.AND THEY HAVE MADE OUR
  • 00:11:10.816 --> 00:11:11.984
  • AND THEY HAVE MADE OURNATION UNIQUE.
  • 00:11:11.984 --> 00:11:13.252
  • NATION UNIQUE.NOT ONLY DID THE PEOPLE
  • 00:11:13.252 --> 00:11:14.353
  • NOT ONLY DID THE PEOPLECOME HERE IN BOATS BECAUSE
  • 00:11:14.353 --> 00:11:15.387
  • COME HERE IN BOATS BECAUSETHEY WERE SEARCHING FOR
  • 00:11:15.387 --> 00:11:16.255
  • THEY WERE SEARCHING FORTHAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE
  • 00:11:16.255 --> 00:11:17.156
  • THAT, THERE ARE PEOPLESTILL LINED UP AT OUR
  • 00:11:17.156 --> 00:11:18.257
  • STILL LINED UP AT OURBORDERS TODAY BECAUSE
  • 00:11:18.257 --> 00:11:19.258
  • BORDERS TODAY BECAUSETHOSE PRINCIPLES ARE STILL
  • 00:11:19.258 --> 00:11:20.893
  • THOSE PRINCIPLES ARE STILLEMBODIED IN THIS NATION
  • 00:11:20.893 --> 00:11:21.927
  • EMBODIED IN THIS NATIONAND THEY ARE UNIQUE IN OUR
  • 00:11:21.927 --> 00:11:25.631
  • AND THEY ARE UNIQUE IN OURWORLD SYSTEM.
  • 00:11:25.631 --> 00:11:26.098
  • WORLD SYSTEM.I THINK WHERE THE
  • 00:11:26.098 --> 00:11:26.632
  • I THINK WHERE THEPROPAGANDA MACHINE THAT
  • 00:11:26.632 --> 00:11:27.333
  • PROPAGANDA MACHINE THATIS OUR MEDIA LEADS US
  • 00:11:27.333 --> 00:11:28.100
  • IS OUR MEDIA LEADS USASTRAY IS THEY WILL SAY
  • 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:29.869
  • ASTRAY IS THEY WILL SAYWE'RE NOT A
  • 00:11:29.869 --> 00:11:30.503
  • WE'RE NOT ACOMPREHENSIVELY CHRISTIAN
  • 00:11:30.503 --> 00:11:32.204
  • COMPREHENSIVELY CHRISTIANNATION.
  • 00:11:32.204 --> 00:11:33.639
  • NATION.THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
  • 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:34.907
  • THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.WE RESPECT THE NATIVE
  • 00:11:34.907 --> 00:11:36.475
  • WE RESPECT THE NATIVEAMERICANS, AND THEIR
  • 00:11:36.475 --> 00:11:37.843
  • AMERICANS, AND THEIRRELIGION AND THEIR RIGHT
  • 00:11:37.843 --> 00:11:38.978
  • RELIGION AND THEIR RIGHTTO PRACTICE IT.
  • 00:11:38.978 --> 00:11:40.045
  • TO PRACTICE IT.BUT I PROMISE YOU, THAT IN
  • 00:11:40.045 --> 00:11:42.181
  • BUT I PROMISE YOU, THAT INTHE HISTORY OF THE NATIVE
  • 00:11:42.181 --> 00:11:42.782
  • THE HISTORY OF THE NATIVEAMERICAN PEOPLES, THEY
  • 00:11:42.782 --> 00:11:43.582
  • AMERICAN PEOPLES, THEYDIDN'T HAVE 100%
  • 00:11:43.582 --> 00:11:44.416
  • DIDN'T HAVE 100%COMPLIANCE TO HOW THEY
  • 00:11:44.416 --> 00:11:45.985
  • COMPLIANCE TO HOW THEYWORSHIPED.
  • 00:11:45.985 --> 00:11:46.452
  • WORSHIPED.THERE WAS DIVERSITY OF
  • 00:11:46.452 --> 00:11:48.254
  • THERE WAS DIVERSITY OFOPINIONS, THERE WERE
  • 00:11:48.254 --> 00:11:48.821
  • OPINIONS, THERE WEREAGNOSTICS IN THE MIDST OF
  • 00:11:48.821 --> 00:11:49.955
  • AGNOSTICS IN THE MIDST OFCOMMUNITIES OF FAITH.
  • 00:11:49.955 --> 00:11:51.924
  • COMMUNITIES OF FAITH.BUT WE STILL RESPECT THEIR
  • 00:11:51.924 --> 00:11:52.858
  • BUT WE STILL RESPECT THEIRTRADITION AND THEIR
  • 00:11:52.858 --> 00:11:54.193
  • TRADITION AND THEIRHERITAGE.
  • 00:11:54.193 --> 00:11:55.094
  • HERITAGE.AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP
  • 00:11:55.094 --> 00:11:56.562
  • AND WE'VE GOT TO STOPAPOLOGIZING AS THE 21ST
  • 00:11:56.562 --> 00:11:57.062
  • APOLOGIZING AS THE 21STCENTURY EDITION OF THE
  • 00:11:57.062 --> 00:11:58.564
  • CENTURY EDITION OF THEBOOK OF ACTS
  • 00:11:58.564 --> 00:12:01.333
  • BOOK OF ACTSFOR OUR HERITAGE.
  • 00:12:01.333 --> 00:12:01.834
  • FOR OUR HERITAGE.WE HAVE TO DEFEND THE
  • 00:12:01.834 --> 00:12:02.935
  • WE HAVE TO DEFEND THEFAITH WEAVE BEEN GIVEN AND
  • 00:12:02.935 --> 00:12:03.969
  • FAITH WEAVE BEEN GIVEN ANDWE HAVE TO CARRY IT
  • 00:12:03.969 --> 00:12:05.437
  • WE HAVE TO CARRY ITFORWARD IN THIS GENERATION
  • 00:12:05.437 --> 00:12:06.572
  • FORWARD IN THIS GENERATIONOR WE WILL LOSE IT.
  • 00:12:06.572 --> 00:12:07.540
  • OR WE WILL LOSE IT.IT ONLY TAKES THREE
  • 00:12:07.540 --> 00:12:08.607
  • IT ONLY TAKES THREEGENERATIONS FOR AN IDEA TO
  • 00:12:08.607 --> 00:12:11.610
  • GENERATIONS FOR AN IDEA TOBE SWEPT AWAY.
  • 00:12:11.610 --> 00:12:12.111
  • BE SWEPT AWAY.AND IF WE DON'T STAND UP
  • 00:12:12.111 --> 00:12:13.712
  • AND IF WE DON'T STAND UPAND SEE THAT THOSE
  • 00:12:13.712 --> 00:12:14.814
  • AND SEE THAT THOSEPRINCIPLES ARE IN OUR
  • 00:12:14.814 --> 00:12:16.015
  • PRINCIPLES ARE IN OURSCHOOLS AND IN OUR
  • 00:12:16.015 --> 00:12:16.882
  • SCHOOLS AND IN OURUNIVERSITIES AND IN OUR
  • 00:12:16.882 --> 00:12:18.017
  • UNIVERSITIES AND IN OURHOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS,
  • 00:12:18.017 --> 00:12:18.918
  • HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS,WE WILL LOSE OUR FREEDOMS
  • 00:12:18.918 --> 00:12:20.452
  • WE WILL LOSE OUR FREEDOMSAND LIBERTIES.
  • 00:12:20.452 --> 00:12:21.086
  • AND LIBERTIES.- ERIC: PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON,
  • 00:12:21.086 --> 00:12:22.221
  • - ERIC: PASTOR ALLEN JACKSON,WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
  • 00:12:22.221 --> 00:12:24.190
  • WE'RE OUT OF TIME.CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK.
  • 00:12:24.190 --> 00:12:25.157
  • CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK."GOD BLESS AMERICAN AGAIN"
  • 00:12:25.157 --> 00:12:28.194
  • "GOD BLESS AMERICAN AGAIN""A PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE."
  • 00:12:28.194 --> 00:12:28.961
  • "A PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE."I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
  • 00:12:28.961 --> 00:12:29.595
  • I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEINGYOU IN PERSON AS SOON AS
  • 00:12:29.595 --> 00:12:30.262
  • YOU IN PERSON AS SOON ASPOSSIBLE.
  • 00:12:30.262 --> 00:12:31.497
  • POSSIBLE.GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.
  • 00:12:31.497 --> 00:12:32.398
  • GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.- ALLEN: THANK YOU, ERIC.
  • 00:12:32.398 --> 00:12:34.999
  • GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.- ALLEN: THANK YOU, ERIC.
  • 00:12:34.999 --> 00:12:36.029
  • - ALLEN: THANK YOU, ERIC.BLESS YOU.
  • 00:12:36.029 --> 00:12:36.930
  • BLESS YOU.MUSIC
  • 00:12:36.930 --> 00:12:37.597
  • MUSIC- ERIC: HEY, THERE, FOLKS.
  • 00:12:37.597 --> 00:12:38.531
  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE, FOLKS.WELCOME TO
  • 00:12:38.531 --> 00:12:39.032
  • WELCOME TOTHE ERIC METAXAS SHOW.
  • 00:12:39.032 --> 00:12:40.200
  • THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW.WE TRY TO GET GOOD GUESTS,
  • 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:41.000
  • WE TRY TO GET GOOD GUESTS,WE ALMOST ALWAYS FAIL.
  • 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.602
  • WE ALMOST ALWAYS FAIL.TODAY IS AN EXCEPTION.
  • 00:12:42.602 --> 00:12:46.206
  • TODAY IS AN EXCEPTION.WE GOT A GREAT GUEST TODAY.
  • 00:12:46.206 --> 00:12:46.639
  • WE GOT A GREAT GUEST TODAY.SHE'S VERY YOUNG.
  • 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:47.173
  • SHE'S VERY YOUNG.AT LEAST I THINK OF HER
  • 00:12:47.173 --> 00:12:47.841
  • AT LEAST I THINK OF HERAS VERY YOUNG.
  • 00:12:47.841 --> 00:12:48.474
  • AS VERY YOUNG.SHE'S THE DAUGHTER OF MY
  • 00:12:48.474 --> 00:12:50.510
  • SHE'S THE DAUGHTER OF MYFRIEND DINESH D'SOUZA.
  • 00:12:50.510 --> 00:12:52.645
  • FRIEND DINESH D'SOUZA.AND THE DAUGHTERS OR SONS
  • 00:12:52.645 --> 00:12:53.880
  • AND THE DAUGHTERS OR SONSOF MY FRIENDS HAVE TO BE
  • 00:12:53.880 --> 00:12:56.349
  • OF MY FRIENDS HAVE TO BEBY DEFINITION KIDS.
  • 00:12:56.349 --> 00:12:56.850
  • BY DEFINITION KIDS.DANIELLE IS NOT REALLY A
  • 00:12:56.850 --> 00:12:57.784
  • DANIELLE IS NOT REALLY AKID.
  • 00:12:57.784 --> 00:12:59.219
  • KID.SHE'S MARRIED.
  • 00:12:59.219 --> 00:13:00.053
  • SHE'S MARRIED.I WAS AT THE WEDDING.
  • 00:13:00.053 --> 00:13:01.120
  • I WAS AT THE WEDDING.DANIELLE, IT'S A JOY TO
  • 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:01.921
  • DANIELLE, IT'S A JOY TOHAVE YOU ON.
  • 00:13:01.921 --> 00:13:02.789
  • HAVE YOU ON.WELCOME AND
  • 00:13:02.789 --> 00:13:03.323
  • WELCOME ANDCONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
  • 00:13:03.323 --> 00:13:04.357
  • CONGRATULATIONS ON YOURNEW BOOK.
  • 00:13:04.357 --> 00:13:05.725
  • NEW BOOK.- DANIELLE: I'M HONORED
  • 00:13:05.725 --> 00:13:06.259
  • - DANIELLE: I'M HONOREDTO BE HERE.
  • 00:13:06.259 --> 00:13:07.493
  • TO BE HERE.THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
  • 00:13:07.493 --> 00:13:08.228
  • THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.- ERIC: THIS BOOK IS AN
  • 00:13:08.228 --> 00:13:09.529
  • - ERIC: THIS BOOK IS ANIMPORTANT BOOK.
  • 00:13:09.529 --> 00:13:11.464
  • IMPORTANT BOOK.I KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE READ IT.
  • 00:13:11.464 --> 00:13:12.232
  • I KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE READ IT.YOU WRITE ABOUT A ABORTION
  • 00:13:12.232 --> 00:13:13.499
  • YOU WRITE ABOUT A ABORTIONAND THE TITLE OF THE BOOK
  • 00:13:13.499 --> 00:13:15.468
  • AND THE TITLE OF THE BOOKIS "THE CHOICE."
  • 00:13:15.468 --> 00:13:16.236
  • IS "THE CHOICE."THE ABORTION DIVIDE IN
  • 00:13:16.236 --> 00:13:18.471
  • THE ABORTION DIVIDE INAMERICA.
  • 00:13:18.471 --> 00:13:19.072
  • AMERICA.THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST BOOK.
  • 00:13:19.072 --> 00:13:22.642
  • THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST BOOK.BUT LET ME ASK YOU, WHY
  • 00:13:22.642 --> 00:13:23.209
  • BUT LET ME ASK YOU, WHYDID YOU WRITE A BOOK ABOUT
  • 00:13:23.209 --> 00:13:23.776
  • DID YOU WRITE A BOOK ABOUTABORTION AND WHAT DID YOU
  • 00:13:23.776 --> 00:13:24.477
  • ABORTION AND WHAT DID YOUTHINK COULD BE SAID ABOUT
  • 00:13:24.477 --> 00:13:25.545
  • THINK COULD BE SAID ABOUTABORTION THAT HASN'T
  • 00:13:25.545 --> 00:13:28.014
  • ABORTION THAT HASN'TALREADY BEEN SAID?
  • 00:13:28.014 --> 00:13:29.082
  • ALREADY BEEN SAID?- DANIELLE: I FELT LIKE
  • 00:13:29.082 --> 00:13:30.783
  • - DANIELLE: I FELT LIKETHE ABORTION DEBATE HAD
  • 00:13:30.783 --> 00:13:31.985
  • THE ABORTION DEBATE HADGOTTEN VERY STAGNANT IN
  • 00:13:31.985 --> 00:13:32.919
  • GOTTEN VERY STAGNANT INTHE SENSE, A LOT HAS
  • 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:33.786
  • THE SENSE, A LOT HASACTUALLY CHANGED SINCE
  • 00:13:33.786 --> 00:13:38.057
  • ACTUALLY CHANGED SINCE1973, ROE V. WADE,
  • 00:13:38.057 --> 00:13:38.558
  • 1973, ROE V. WADE,BACK THEN PEOPLE SAID
  • 00:13:38.558 --> 00:13:39.125
  • BACK THEN PEOPLE SAIDTHINGS LIKE, MAYBE THERE'S
  • 00:13:39.125 --> 00:13:42.395
  • THINGS LIKE, MAYBE THERE'SPOTENTIAL LIFE IN THE WOMB.
  • 00:13:42.395 --> 00:13:42.962
  • POTENTIAL LIFE IN THE WOMB.AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO GIVE
  • 00:13:42.962 --> 00:13:43.463
  • AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO GIVEIT THE BENEFIT OF THE
  • 00:13:43.463 --> 00:13:44.631
  • IT THE BENEFIT OF THEDOUBT.
  • 00:13:44.631 --> 00:13:45.832
  • DOUBT.AND SO ON, BUT WITH THE
  • 00:13:45.832 --> 00:13:46.799
  • AND SO ON, BUT WITH THEDEVELOPMENT OF ULTRASOUND,
  • 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:47.567
  • DEVELOPMENT OF ULTRASOUND,SEEING THE BABY IN THE
  • 00:13:47.567 --> 00:13:48.468
  • SEEING THE BABY IN THEWOMB, HEARING THE
  • 00:13:48.468 --> 00:13:49.369
  • WOMB, HEARING THEHEARTBEAT, THE VIABILITY
  • 00:13:49.369 --> 00:13:50.770
  • HEARTBEAT, THE VIABILITYMOVING EARLIER AND
  • 00:13:50.770 --> 00:13:52.238
  • MOVING EARLIER ANDEARLIER, THERE ARE SO MANY
  • 00:13:52.238 --> 00:13:53.606
  • EARLIER, THERE ARE SO MANYNEW FACTS WHEN IT COMES TO
  • 00:13:53.606 --> 00:13:54.140
  • NEW FACTS WHEN IT COMES TOABORTION.
  • 00:13:54.140 --> 00:13:55.308
  • ABORTION.I THINK ALSO THE LEFT HAS
  • 00:13:55.308 --> 00:13:57.043
  • I THINK ALSO THE LEFT HASCHANGED ON ABORTION.
  • 00:13:57.043 --> 00:13:58.077
  • CHANGED ON ABORTION.THEY HAVE MOVED FROM
  • 00:13:58.077 --> 00:13:59.245
  • THEY HAVE MOVED FROMSAFE, LEGAL AND RARE TO THIS
  • 00:13:59.245 --> 00:14:00.613
  • SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE TO THISRADICAL PRO-ABORTION
  • 00:14:00.613 --> 00:14:01.614
  • RADICAL PRO-ABORTIONPOLICY.
  • 00:14:01.614 --> 00:14:03.516
  • POLICY.SO I WANTED TO TAKE ON THE
  • 00:14:03.516 --> 00:14:05.018
  • SO I WANTED TO TAKE ON THELEFT'S MOST POWERFUL
  • 00:14:05.018 --> 00:14:06.319
  • LEFT'S MOST POWERFULPRO-CHOICE MYTHS AND
  • 00:14:06.319 --> 00:14:07.287
  • PRO-CHOICE MYTHS ANDDEBUNK THEM IN A WAY
  • 00:14:07.287 --> 00:14:08.221
  • DEBUNK THEM IN A WAYTHAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO
  • 00:14:08.221 --> 00:14:09.522
  • THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TOPEOPLE, WHERE THEY FEEL
  • 00:14:09.522 --> 00:14:10.089
  • PEOPLE, WHERE THEY FEELLIKE, NO MATTER WHAT
  • 00:14:10.089 --> 00:14:12.392
  • LIKE, NO MATTER WHATARGUMENT THE OTHER SIDE
  • 00:14:12.392 --> 00:14:14.093
  • ARGUMENT THE OTHER SIDEMAKES, I CAN RESPOND TO IT.
  • 00:14:14.093 --> 00:14:14.627
  • MAKES, I CAN RESPOND TO IT.- ERIC: YOU JUST SAID A
  • 00:14:14.627 --> 00:14:15.995
  • - ERIC: YOU JUST SAID ACOUPLE REALLY IMPORTANT
  • 00:14:15.995 --> 00:14:17.764
  • COUPLE REALLY IMPORTANTTHINGS THAT I WANT TO AT
  • 00:14:17.764 --> 00:14:18.998
  • THINGS THAT I WANT TO ATLEAST UNDERSCORE.
  • 00:14:18.998 --> 00:14:20.733
  • LEAST UNDERSCORE.THE IDEA THAT THE DEBATE
  • 00:14:20.733 --> 00:14:22.135
  • THE IDEA THAT THE DEBATEHAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY
  • 00:14:22.135 --> 00:14:24.437
  • HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLYIS NOT OFTEN SAID.
  • 00:14:24.437 --> 00:14:28.508
  • IS NOT OFTEN SAID.YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT, THAT
  • 00:14:28.508 --> 00:14:29.208
  • YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT, THATIN 1973, PEOPLE-- SCIENCE
  • 00:14:29.208 --> 00:14:30.209
  • IN 1973, PEOPLE-- SCIENCEDIDN'T KNOW VERY MUCH.
  • 00:14:30.209 --> 00:14:31.044
  • DIDN'T KNOW VERY MUCH.AND TODAY, SCIENCE TELLS
  • 00:14:31.044 --> 00:14:34.280
  • AND TODAY, SCIENCE TELLSUS THERE'S NO QUESTION OF
  • 00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:35.715
  • US THERE'S NO QUESTION OFWHAT IS IN THERE.
  • 00:14:35.715 --> 00:14:36.683
  • WHAT IS IN THERE.WE HAVE PICTURES.
  • 00:14:36.683 --> 00:14:38.117
  • WE HAVE PICTURES.WE HANG THOSE PICTURES UP
  • 00:14:38.117 --> 00:14:39.719
  • WE HANG THOSE PICTURES UPON OUR REFRIGERATORS WHEN
  • 00:14:39.719 --> 00:14:41.054
  • ON OUR REFRIGERATORS WHENMOMMY GETS PREGNANT.
  • 00:14:41.054 --> 00:14:41.921
  • MOMMY GETS PREGNANT.WE DON'T PRETEND IT'S A
  • 00:14:41.921 --> 00:14:43.523
  • WE DON'T PRETEND IT'S ALUMP OF CELLS UNTIL IT
  • 00:14:43.523 --> 00:14:45.024
  • LUMP OF CELLS UNTIL ITCOMES OUT OF MOMMY.
  • 00:14:45.024 --> 00:14:46.559
  • COMES OUT OF MOMMY.THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
  • 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:47.894
  • THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.THE SCIENCE WE HAVE AND THE
  • 00:14:47.894 --> 00:14:50.163
  • THE SCIENCE WE HAVE AND THEIMAGING TECHNOLOGY.
  • 00:14:50.163 --> 00:14:51.464
  • IMAGING TECHNOLOGY.BUT ALSO, AS YOU SAID, THE
  • 00:14:51.464 --> 00:14:54.534
  • BUT ALSO, AS YOU SAID, THEDEBATE ON THE OTHER SIDE
  • 00:14:54.534 --> 00:14:56.436
  • DEBATE ON THE OTHER SIDEHAS CHANGED.
  • 00:14:56.436 --> 00:14:57.003
  • HAS CHANGED.WE'RE NO LONGER TALKING
  • 00:14:57.003 --> 00:14:58.438
  • WE'RE NO LONGER TALKINGABOUT-- EVEN CLINTON IN
  • 00:14:58.438 --> 00:15:00.473
  • ABOUT-- EVEN CLINTON INTHE 90's SAID WE WANT
  • 00:15:00.473 --> 00:15:01.040
  • THE 90's SAID WE WANTABORTION TO BE SAFE, LEGAL
  • 00:15:01.040 --> 00:15:03.142
  • ABORTION TO BE SAFE, LEGALAND RARE.
  • 00:15:03.142 --> 00:15:03.710
  • AND RARE.THE IDEA THAT IT SHOULD BE
  • 00:15:03.710 --> 00:15:07.847
  • THE IDEA THAT IT SHOULD BERARE SEEMS LESS MENTIONED
  • 00:15:07.847 --> 00:15:09.115
  • RARE SEEMS LESS MENTIONEDTHAN IT IS SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:15:09.115 --> 00:15:10.116
  • THAN IT IS SOMETHING THATIS EMPOWERING.
  • 00:15:10.116 --> 00:15:11.284
  • IS EMPOWERING.IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS
  • 00:15:11.284 --> 00:15:12.018
  • IT IS SOMETHING THAT ISGOOD.
  • 00:15:12.018 --> 00:15:13.019
  • GOOD.THAT WOMEN ARE SHOUTING
  • 00:15:13.019 --> 00:15:14.620
  • THAT WOMEN ARE SHOUTINGTHEIR ABORTIONS.
  • 00:15:14.620 --> 00:15:15.855
  • THEIR ABORTIONS.THAT IS A PRETTY DRAMATIC
  • 00:15:15.855 --> 00:15:18.224
  • THAT IS A PRETTY DRAMATICCHANGE FROM THE STANCE OF
  • 00:15:18.224 --> 00:15:20.893
  • CHANGE FROM THE STANCE OFPRO-ABORTION PEOPLE, EVEN
  • 00:15:20.893 --> 00:15:23.363
  • PRO-ABORTION PEOPLE, EVENTEN AND 15 YEARS AGO.
  • 00:15:23.363 --> 00:15:24.297
  • TEN AND 15 YEARS AGO.- DANIELLE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:15:24.297 --> 00:15:25.264
  • - DANIELLE: EXACTLY.I THINK THAT'S WHY SO MANY
  • 00:15:25.264 --> 00:15:26.733
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY SO MANYDEMOCRATS WHO ARE OLDER
  • 00:15:26.733 --> 00:15:28.735
  • DEMOCRATS WHO ARE OLDERFIND IT JUST SHOCKING HOW
  • 00:15:28.735 --> 00:15:30.136
  • FIND IT JUST SHOCKING HOWTHE LEFT IS REALLY PUSHING
  • 00:15:30.136 --> 00:15:31.938
  • THE LEFT IS REALLY PUSHINGABORTION, NOT AS THE
  • 00:15:31.938 --> 00:15:33.172
  • ABORTION, NOT AS THELESSER OF TWO EVILS, BUT
  • 00:15:33.172 --> 00:15:35.041
  • LESSER OF TWO EVILS, BUTAS A POSITIVE GOOD.
  • 00:15:35.041 --> 00:15:36.175
  • AS A POSITIVE GOOD.AND I THINK THAT TOO, WHAT
  • 00:15:36.175 --> 00:15:37.643
  • AND I THINK THAT TOO, WHATWE SEE, EVEN WITH THE
  • 00:15:37.643 --> 00:15:38.878
  • WE SEE, EVEN WITH THE"NEW YORK TIMES" BUYING THE
  • 00:15:38.878 --> 00:15:41.614
  • "NEW YORK TIMES" BUYING THEPUBLICATION LIKE
  • 00:15:41.614 --> 00:15:42.448
  • PUBLICATION LIKE"TEEN VOGUE" SO THEY CAN RUN
  • 00:15:42.448 --> 00:15:43.282
  • "TEEN VOGUE" SO THEY CAN RUNABORTION BILL ARTICLES TO
  • 00:15:43.282 --> 00:15:44.684
  • ABORTION BILL ARTICLES TOTARGET YOUNG GIRLS.
  • 00:15:44.684 --> 00:15:47.220
  • TARGET YOUNG GIRLS.MICHELLE WILLIAMS ACCEPTS
  • 00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:50.590
  • MICHELLE WILLIAMS ACCEPTSHER GOLDEN GLOBE AWARD
  • 00:15:50.590 --> 00:15:51.157
  • HER GOLDEN GLOBE AWARDSAYING WITHOUT THIS RIGHT
  • 00:15:51.157 --> 00:15:52.291
  • SAYING WITHOUT THIS RIGHTTO CHOOSE,
  • 00:15:52.291 --> 00:15:52.892
  • TO CHOOSE,WITHOUT ABORTION, I WOULDN'T
  • 00:15:52.892 --> 00:15:53.693
  • WITHOUT ABORTION, I WOULDN'TBE HERE ACCEPTING
  • 00:15:53.693 --> 00:15:54.627
  • BE HERE ACCEPTINGTHIS AWARD TODAY.
  • 00:15:54.627 --> 00:15:57.663
  • THIS AWARD TODAY.THIS IDEA THAT ABORTION IS
  • 00:15:57.663 --> 00:15:58.531
  • THIS IDEA THAT ABORTION ISEMPOWERMENT AND THIS IDEA
  • 00:15:58.531 --> 00:15:59.999
  • EMPOWERMENT AND THIS IDEATHAT IT'S A GOOD THING, I
  • 00:15:59.999 --> 00:16:01.467
  • THAT IT'S A GOOD THING, ITHINK IS REALLY KIND OF
  • 00:16:01.467 --> 00:16:03.770
  • THINK IS REALLY KIND OFTHE DEMOCRATS LINE OF
  • 00:16:03.770 --> 00:16:05.405
  • THE DEMOCRATS LINE OFARGUMENT BUT DOESN'T
  • 00:16:05.405 --> 00:16:05.905
  • ARGUMENT BUT DOESN'TACTUALLY RESONATE WITH
  • 00:16:05.905 --> 00:16:07.273
  • ACTUALLY RESONATE WITHMOST AMERICANS.
  • 00:16:07.273 --> 00:16:07.807
  • MOST AMERICANS.- ERIC: I THINK IT NEEDS
  • 00:16:07.807 --> 00:16:11.010
  • - ERIC: I THINK IT NEEDSTO BE SAID THAT IF YOU
  • 00:16:11.010 --> 00:16:11.511
  • TO BE SAID THAT IF YOUDON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU
  • 00:16:11.511 --> 00:16:12.812
  • DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUKILLED A BABY, OR A HUMAN
  • 00:16:12.812 --> 00:16:14.747
  • KILLED A BABY, OR A HUMANBEING, THEN I UNDERSTAND
  • 00:16:14.747 --> 00:16:15.782
  • BEING, THEN I UNDERSTANDTHEIR LOGIC, RIGHT?
  • 00:16:15.782 --> 00:16:16.315
  • THEIR LOGIC, RIGHT?IT'S LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:16:16.315 --> 00:16:17.283
  • IT'S LIKE I DIDN'T HAVETHE BABY.
  • 00:16:17.283 --> 00:16:17.850
  • THE BABY.IT ENABLED ME DO ALL THESE
  • 00:16:17.850 --> 00:16:18.851
  • IT ENABLED ME DO ALL THESEKINDS OF THINGS.
  • 00:16:18.851 --> 00:16:19.952
  • KINDS OF THINGS.BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLY
  • 00:16:19.952 --> 00:16:21.587
  • BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLYDEALING WITH THE ISSUE
  • 00:16:21.587 --> 00:16:23.022
  • DEALING WITH THE ISSUETHAT BECAUSE OF THE
  • 00:16:23.022 --> 00:16:24.057
  • THAT BECAUSE OF THESCIENCE THAT WE HAVE
  • 00:16:24.057 --> 00:16:24.624
  • SCIENCE THAT WE HAVETODAY, WE KNOW YOU ARE
  • 00:16:24.624 --> 00:16:25.758
  • TODAY, WE KNOW YOU ARETAKING A LIFE.
  • 00:16:25.758 --> 00:16:27.160
  • TAKING A LIFE.STEVIE NICKS, NOT YOUR
  • 00:16:27.160 --> 00:16:28.494
  • STEVIE NICKS, NOT YOURGENERATION BUT MINE, VERY
  • 00:16:28.494 --> 00:16:30.563
  • GENERATION BUT MINE, VERYRECENTLY SAID IF SHE
  • 00:16:30.563 --> 00:16:32.565
  • RECENTLY SAID IF SHEHADN'T HAD AN ABORTION,
  • 00:16:32.565 --> 00:16:33.232
  • HADN'T HAD AN ABORTION,FLEETWOOD MAC NEVER WOULD
  • 00:16:33.232 --> 00:16:34.233
  • FLEETWOOD MAC NEVER WOULDHAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE.
  • 00:16:34.233 --> 00:16:34.767
  • HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE.IT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO
  • 00:16:34.767 --> 00:16:36.202
  • IT JUST MAKES ME WANT TOWEEP.
  • 00:16:36.202 --> 00:16:37.570
  • WEEP.IT MAKES ME WANT TO WEEP.
  • 00:16:37.570 --> 00:16:38.204
  • IT MAKES ME WANT TO WEEP.ANYBODY WHO KNOWS THAT
  • 00:16:38.204 --> 00:16:40.173
  • ANYBODY WHO KNOWS THATSTORY IN DEPTH, THERE ARE
  • 00:16:40.173 --> 00:16:41.808
  • STORY IN DEPTH, THERE ARESO MANY WOMEN WHO ARE
  • 00:16:41.808 --> 00:16:45.478
  • SO MANY WOMEN WHO AREPROBABLY LOOKING FOR GOOD
  • 00:16:45.478 --> 00:16:47.113
  • PROBABLY LOOKING FOR GOODREASONS TO HAVE HAD THEIR
  • 00:16:47.113 --> 00:16:48.347
  • REASONS TO HAVE HAD THEIRABORTION TO MAKE THEM
  • 00:16:48.347 --> 00:16:48.848
  • ABORTION TO MAKE THEMFEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.
  • 00:16:48.848 --> 00:16:50.483
  • FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF
  • 00:16:50.483 --> 00:16:51.851
  • BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OFWOMEN RIGHTLY DON'T FEEL
  • 00:16:51.851 --> 00:16:52.618
  • WOMEN RIGHTLY DON'T FEELGREAT ABOUT IT BUT THEY'RE
  • 00:16:52.618 --> 00:16:53.853
  • GREAT ABOUT IT BUT THEY'RENOT GIVEN PERMISSION IN
  • 00:16:53.853 --> 00:16:54.487
  • NOT GIVEN PERMISSION INTHIS SOCIETY TO SAY, THAT
  • 00:16:54.487 --> 00:16:57.790
  • THIS SOCIETY TO SAY, THATDAMAGED ME.
  • 00:16:57.790 --> 00:16:58.558
  • DAMAGED ME.THAT WOUNDED ME.
  • 00:16:58.558 --> 00:16:59.092
  • THAT WOUNDED ME.SO I'M LOOKING FOR
  • 00:16:59.092 --> 00:17:00.560
  • SO I'M LOOKING FORSOMETHING TO SAY THAT SOME
  • 00:17:00.560 --> 00:17:02.395
  • SOMETHING TO SAY THAT SOMEGOOD CAME OUT OF IT.
  • 00:17:02.395 --> 00:17:03.162
  • GOOD CAME OUT OF IT.- DANIELLE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:17:03.162 --> 00:17:04.464
  • - DANIELLE: EXACTLY.SOME OF THE ARTICLES PUT
  • 00:17:04.464 --> 00:17:06.099
  • SOME OF THE ARTICLES PUTOUT IN "COSMOPOLITAN" AND
  • 00:17:06.099 --> 00:17:06.766
  • OUT IN "COSMOPOLITAN" ANDTHESE OTHER PLACES ARE
  • 00:17:06.766 --> 00:17:08.201
  • THESE OTHER PLACES AREBASICALLY SAYING HERE'S
  • 00:17:08.201 --> 00:17:08.701
  • BASICALLY SAYING HERE'SWHY ME ABORTION WAS
  • 00:17:08.701 --> 00:17:11.204
  • WHY ME ABORTION WASAWESOME.
  • 00:17:11.204 --> 00:17:13.306
  • AWESOME.THREE, FOUR ABORTIONS I'VE
  • 00:17:13.306 --> 00:17:14.440
  • THREE, FOUR ABORTIONS I'VEHAD, IT WAS GREAT.
  • 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:15.608
  • HAD, IT WAS GREAT.IF WE ACTUALLY TALK TO
  • 00:17:15.608 --> 00:17:16.175
  • IF WE ACTUALLY TALK TOWOMEN THAT'S NOT THE STORY
  • 00:17:16.175 --> 00:17:17.243
  • WOMEN THAT'S NOT THE STORYTHEY TELL US.
  • 00:17:17.243 --> 00:17:18.644
  • THEY TELL US.MOST WOMEN WHO SHARE THEIR
  • 00:17:18.644 --> 00:17:19.979
  • MOST WOMEN WHO SHARE THEIRSTORIES ON IT SAY, YOU
  • 00:17:19.979 --> 00:17:20.913
  • STORIES ON IT SAY, YOUKNOW, THAT WAS A REALLY
  • 00:17:20.913 --> 00:17:22.315
  • KNOW, THAT WAS A REALLYHORRIBLE TIME IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:17:22.315 --> 00:17:23.850
  • HORRIBLE TIME IN MY LIFE.I THINK THE SAD THING, THE
  • 00:17:23.850 --> 00:17:26.953
  • I THINK THE SAD THING, THEBIGGEST SAD THING THAT THE
  • 00:17:26.953 --> 00:17:28.054
  • BIGGEST SAD THING THAT THEDEMOCRATS REALLY TRIED TO
  • 00:17:28.054 --> 00:17:29.122
  • DEMOCRATS REALLY TRIED TOPULL THE WOOL OVER WOMEN'S
  • 00:17:29.122 --> 00:17:29.655
  • PULL THE WOOL OVER WOMEN'SEYES.
  • 00:17:29.655 --> 00:17:30.590
  • EYES.THAT IS WHY PLANNED
  • 00:17:30.590 --> 00:17:31.791
  • THAT IS WHY PLANNEDPARENTHOOD AND ABORTION
  • 00:17:31.791 --> 00:17:32.558
  • PARENTHOOD AND ABORTIONCLINICS DON'T WANT TO SHOW
  • 00:17:32.558 --> 00:17:34.961
  • CLINICS DON'T WANT TO SHOWWOMEN THE ULTRASOUND
  • 00:17:34.961 --> 00:17:35.461
  • WOMEN THE ULTRASOUNDBECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT
  • 00:17:35.461 --> 00:17:36.796
  • BECAUSE THEY KNOW THATWHENEVER WOMEN SEE THEIR
  • 00:17:36.796 --> 00:17:37.330
  • WHENEVER WOMEN SEE THEIRULTRASOUND THEY ARE MUCH
  • 00:17:37.330 --> 00:17:38.464
  • ULTRASOUND THEY ARE MUCHMORE LIKELY TO WALK OUT OF
  • 00:17:38.464 --> 00:17:38.998
  • MORE LIKELY TO WALK OUT OFTHE CLINIC AND NOT GET THE
  • 00:17:38.998 --> 00:17:41.300
  • THE CLINIC AND NOT GET THEABORTION.
  • 00:17:41.300 --> 00:17:41.868
  • ABORTION.- ERIC: WELL, THAT'S THE
  • 00:17:41.868 --> 00:17:43.903
  • - ERIC: WELL, THAT'S THETRUTH.
  • 00:17:43.903 --> 00:17:44.437
  • TRUTH.IN OTHER WORDS, HERE YOU
  • 00:17:44.437 --> 00:17:45.605
  • IN OTHER WORDS, HERE YOUHAVE PLANNED PARENTHOOD
  • 00:17:45.605 --> 00:17:46.472
  • HAVE PLANNED PARENTHOODHIDING THE SCIENCE BECAUSE
  • 00:17:46.472 --> 00:17:47.373
  • HIDING THE SCIENCE BECAUSETHE SCIENCE WORKS AGAINST
  • 00:17:47.373 --> 00:17:49.142
  • THE SCIENCE WORKS AGAINSTTHEM.
  • 00:17:49.142 --> 00:17:50.276
  • THEM.THEY ARE AFRAID IF PEOPLE
  • 00:17:50.276 --> 00:17:51.744
  • THEY ARE AFRAID IF PEOPLECAN SEE WHAT TECHNOLOGY
  • 00:17:51.744 --> 00:17:52.812
  • CAN SEE WHAT TECHNOLOGYCAN SHOW THEM VERY EASILY
  • 00:17:52.812 --> 00:17:55.181
  • CAN SHOW THEM VERY EASILYTHEY WILL NOT SPEND THE
  • 00:17:55.181 --> 00:17:57.416
  • THEY WILL NOT SPEND THEMONEY THAT PLANNED
  • 00:17:57.416 --> 00:18:00.753
  • MONEY THAT PLANNEDPARENTHOOD EXISTS TO GET.
  • 00:18:00.753 --> 00:18:02.588
  • PARENTHOOD EXISTS TO GET.WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE
  • 00:18:02.588 --> 00:18:03.089
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEEHAPPENING REGARDING
  • 00:18:03.089 --> 00:18:06.392
  • HAPPENING REGARDINGROE V. WADE?
  • 00:18:06.392 --> 00:18:06.859
  • ROE V. WADE?THERE IS A LOT OF
  • 00:18:06.859 --> 00:18:07.793
  • THERE IS A LOT OFMISUNDERSTANDING AROUND
  • 00:18:07.793 --> 00:18:08.594
  • MISUNDERSTANDING AROUNDTHE COUNTRY ABOUT ROE V. WADE
  • 00:18:08.594 --> 00:18:11.731
  • THE COUNTRY ABOUT ROE V. WADEAND OBVIOUSLY WITH
  • 00:18:11.731 --> 00:18:14.767
  • AND OBVIOUSLY WITHAMY CONEY BARRETT NOW.
  • 00:18:14.767 --> 00:18:15.301
  • AMY CONEY BARRETT NOW.IT SEEMS POSSIBLE THAT
  • 00:18:15.301 --> 00:18:16.536
  • IT SEEMS POSSIBLE THATTHAT RULING COULD BE
  • 00:18:16.536 --> 00:18:17.537
  • THAT RULING COULD BEOVERTURNED.
  • 00:18:17.537 --> 00:18:19.305
  • OVERTURNED.WHAT DO YOU THINK?
  • 00:18:19.305 --> 00:18:19.872
  • WHAT DO YOU THINK?- DANIELLE: I THINK IT'S
  • 00:18:19.872 --> 00:18:21.007
  • - DANIELLE: I THINK IT'SBEEN BREWING FOR A LONG
  • 00:18:21.007 --> 00:18:21.507
  • BEEN BREWING FOR A LONGTIME.
  • 00:18:21.507 --> 00:18:23.075
  • TIME.I THINK THAT THE PRO-LIFE
  • 00:18:23.075 --> 00:18:24.043
  • I THINK THAT THE PRO-LIFESIDE WE HAVE BEEN SO USED
  • 00:18:24.043 --> 00:18:25.211
  • SIDE WE HAVE BEEN SO USEDTO FIGHTING IN THE COURTS
  • 00:18:25.211 --> 00:18:26.345
  • TO FIGHTING IN THE COURTSAND SO USED TO LOSING,
  • 00:18:26.345 --> 00:18:27.847
  • AND SO USED TO LOSING,SOMETHING I SAY TO
  • 00:18:27.847 --> 00:18:29.282
  • SOMETHING I SAY TOPRO-LIFERS IS, ARE WE
  • 00:18:29.282 --> 00:18:30.883
  • PRO-LIFERS IS, ARE WEREADY TO WIN IN THE
  • 00:18:30.883 --> 00:18:31.484
  • READY TO WIN IN THECOURTS?
  • 00:18:31.484 --> 00:18:32.051
  • COURTS?BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO
  • 00:18:32.051 --> 00:18:32.785
  • BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TOBE SUCH A FIRESTORM SO
  • 00:18:32.785 --> 00:18:34.320
  • BE SUCH A FIRESTORM SOMUCH WORSE THAN PEOPLE
  • 00:18:34.320 --> 00:18:36.622
  • MUCH WORSE THAN PEOPLEDRESSED AS HANDMAID'S TALE
  • 00:18:36.622 --> 00:18:37.356
  • DRESSED AS HANDMAID'S TALEAND SO ON SHOWING UP TO
  • 00:18:37.356 --> 00:18:38.124
  • AND SO ON SHOWING UP TOTHE COURT.
  • 00:18:38.124 --> 00:18:40.293
  • THE COURT.I THINK THAT THE LEFT WILL
  • 00:18:40.293 --> 00:18:40.826
  • I THINK THAT THE LEFT WILLABSOLUTELY GO BERSERK.
  • 00:18:40.826 --> 00:18:41.994
  • ABSOLUTELY GO BERSERK.AND THEY ARE BASICALLY
  • 00:18:41.994 --> 00:18:42.828
  • AND THEY ARE BASICALLYREADY FOR IT.
  • 00:18:42.828 --> 00:18:43.629
  • READY FOR IT.I THINK THE LEFT KNOWS
  • 00:18:43.629 --> 00:18:44.230
  • I THINK THE LEFT KNOWSTHAT THE OVERTURNING OF
  • 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:47.066
  • THAT THE OVERTURNING OFROE V. WADE IS NEAR.
  • 00:18:47.066 --> 00:18:47.633
  • ROE V. WADE IS NEAR.AND SO I HOPE OUR SIDE IS
  • 00:18:47.633 --> 00:18:49.302
  • AND SO I HOPE OUR SIDE ISREADY FOR THAT.
  • 00:18:49.302 --> 00:18:50.236
  • READY FOR THAT.- ERIC: WHAT I FIND
  • 00:18:50.236 --> 00:18:51.304
  • - ERIC: WHAT I FINDBIZARRE IS THEY ACT AS
  • 00:18:51.304 --> 00:18:52.905
  • BIZARRE IS THEY ACT ASTHOUGH OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE
  • 00:18:52.905 --> 00:18:53.372
  • THOUGH OVERTURNING ROE V. WADEIS THE END OF ABORTION
  • 00:18:53.372 --> 00:18:54.240
  • IS THE END OF ABORTIONIN AMERICA.
  • 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:55.975
  • IN AMERICA.IT IS NOT.
  • 00:18:55.975 --> 00:18:57.176
  • IT IS NOT.THERE WILL BE LEGAL, QUOTE
  • 00:18:57.176 --> 00:18:59.378
  • THERE WILL BE LEGAL, QUOTEUNQUOTE, ABORTION IN
  • 00:18:59.378 --> 00:19:00.913
  • UNQUOTE, ABORTION INAMERICA, IF ROE V. WADE
  • 00:19:00.913 --> 00:19:01.681
  • AMERICA, IF ROE V. WADEWERE OVERTURNED TOMORROW.
  • 00:19:01.681 --> 00:19:03.149
  • WERE OVERTURNED TOMORROW.THERE WAS LEGAL ABORTION
  • 00:19:03.149 --> 00:19:08.054
  • THERE WAS LEGAL ABORTIONIN AMERICA BEFORE THE 1973
  • 00:19:08.054 --> 00:19:09.922
  • IN AMERICA BEFORE THE 1973JANUARY ROE V. WADE RULING.
  • 00:19:09.922 --> 00:19:11.557
  • JANUARY ROE V. WADE RULING.THE ONLY ISSUE IS IT GOES
  • 00:19:11.557 --> 00:19:13.826
  • THE ONLY ISSUE IS IT GOESBACK TO THE STATES WHICH
  • 00:19:13.826 --> 00:19:14.794
  • BACK TO THE STATES WHICHMEANS IT GOES BACK TO THE
  • 00:19:14.794 --> 00:19:16.662
  • MEANS IT GOES BACK TO THEPEOPLE SO PEOPLE CAN
  • 00:19:16.662 --> 00:19:19.198
  • PEOPLE SO PEOPLE CANACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS.
  • 00:19:19.198 --> 00:19:19.699
  • ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS.YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT
  • 00:19:19.699 --> 00:19:20.900
  • YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THATPEOPLE IN PLACES LIKE
  • 00:19:20.900 --> 00:19:22.635
  • PEOPLE IN PLACES LIKECALIFORNIA, NEW YORK AND A
  • 00:19:22.635 --> 00:19:24.303
  • CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK AND AHOST OF OTHER STATES WILL
  • 00:19:24.303 --> 00:19:25.438
  • HOST OF OTHER STATES WILLOBVIOUSLY UPHOLD THE IDEA
  • 00:19:25.438 --> 00:19:28.441
  • OBVIOUSLY UPHOLD THE IDEAOF LEGAL ABORTION.
  • 00:19:28.441 --> 00:19:28.975
  • OF LEGAL ABORTION.SO TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE A
  • 00:19:28.975 --> 00:19:30.142
  • SO TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE ARED HERRINGS THEY USE IT
  • 00:19:30.142 --> 00:19:31.177
  • RED HERRINGS THEY USE ITTO SAY WOMEN ARE GOING TO
  • 00:19:31.177 --> 00:19:32.278
  • TO SAY WOMEN ARE GOING TOBE OPPRESSED.
  • 00:19:32.278 --> 00:19:34.480
  • BE OPPRESSED.IT'S SIMPLY NOT A FACT.
  • 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.415
  • IT'S SIMPLY NOT A FACT.- DANIELLE: YEAH, THEY
  • 00:19:36.415 --> 00:19:37.016
  • - DANIELLE: YEAH, THEYUSE IT AS A SCARE TACTIC
  • 00:19:37.016 --> 00:19:39.218
  • USE IT AS A SCARE TACTICTO SAY THAT FIRST OF ALL,
  • 00:19:39.218 --> 00:19:40.920
  • TO SAY THAT FIRST OF ALL,ABORTION IS EVEN HEALTH CARE
  • 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.455
  • ABORTION IS EVEN HEALTH CAREAND SECOND OF ALL TO
  • 00:19:42.455 --> 00:19:43.155
  • AND SECOND OF ALL TOSAY THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE
  • 00:19:43.155 --> 00:19:43.789
  • SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKEAWAY THESE WOMEN'S RIGHTS
  • 00:19:43.789 --> 00:19:45.591
  • AWAY THESE WOMEN'S RIGHTSTO DO THIS.
  • 00:19:45.591 --> 00:19:46.092
  • TO DO THIS.NO, I MEAN IN REALITY
  • 00:19:46.092 --> 00:19:46.692
  • NO, I MEAN IN REALITYROE V. WADE
  • 00:19:46.692 --> 00:19:47.927
  • ROE V. WADEJUST BLOCKS STATES
  • 00:19:47.927 --> 00:19:48.894
  • JUST BLOCKS STATESFROM PASSING THINGS LIKE
  • 00:19:48.894 --> 00:19:50.263
  • FROM PASSING THINGS LIKEHEARTBEAT BILLS.
  • 00:19:50.263 --> 00:19:51.397
  • HEARTBEAT BILLS.SO WHENEVER STATES DO PASS
  • 00:19:51.397 --> 00:19:52.331
  • SO WHENEVER STATES DO PASSTHOSE, THEY ARE
  • 00:19:52.331 --> 00:19:53.466
  • THOSE, THEY AREUNFORTUNATELY STRUCK DOWN
  • 00:19:53.466 --> 00:19:55.101
  • UNFORTUNATELY STRUCK DOWNAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL EVEN
  • 00:19:55.101 --> 00:19:56.235
  • AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL EVENTHOUGH THE PEOPLE IN THAT
  • 00:19:56.235 --> 00:19:58.337
  • THOUGH THE PEOPLE IN THATSTATE SAY WE WANT TO
  • 00:19:58.337 --> 00:19:59.038
  • STATE SAY WE WANT TORESTRICT ABORTION.
  • 00:19:59.038 --> 00:20:00.106
  • RESTRICT ABORTION.AS LONG AS ROE V. WADE
  • 00:20:00.106 --> 00:20:00.506
  • AS LONG AS ROE V. WADEIS IN PLACE, THEY
  • 00:20:00.506 --> 00:20:01.474
  • IS IN PLACE, THEYCAN'T DO IT.
  • 00:20:01.474 --> 00:20:02.408
  • CAN'T DO IT.- ERIC: YOU TALK IN YOUR
  • 00:20:02.408 --> 00:20:02.908
  • - ERIC: YOU TALK IN YOURBOOK ABOUT PRO-CHOICE
  • 00:20:02.908 --> 00:20:05.144
  • BOOK ABOUT PRO-CHOICEMYTHS.
  • 00:20:05.144 --> 00:20:05.645
  • MYTHS.AND THERE ARE A TON OF
  • 00:20:05.645 --> 00:20:06.112
  • AND THERE ARE A TON OFTHEM.
  • 00:20:06.112 --> 00:20:06.612
  • THEM.WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE
  • 00:20:06.612 --> 00:20:07.580
  • WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSEPRO-CHOICE MYTHS AND WHAT
  • 00:20:07.580 --> 00:20:08.848
  • PRO-CHOICE MYTHS AND WHATDO YOU SAY ABOUT THEM?
  • 00:20:08.848 --> 00:20:09.749
  • DO YOU SAY ABOUT THEM?- DANIELLE: THE MOST
  • 00:20:09.749 --> 00:20:11.417
  • - DANIELLE: THE MOSTPOPULAR ONES ARE, FETUS IS
  • 00:20:11.417 --> 00:20:12.184
  • POPULAR ONES ARE, FETUS ISA CLUSTER OF CELLS.
  • 00:20:12.184 --> 00:20:13.452
  • A CLUSTER OF CELLS.IT'S A HUMAN BUT IT'S NOT
  • 00:20:13.452 --> 00:20:14.420
  • IT'S A HUMAN BUT IT'S NOTA PERSON.
  • 00:20:14.420 --> 00:20:16.889
  • A PERSON.OR, MY BODY, MY CHOICE.
  • 00:20:16.889 --> 00:20:19.859
  • OR, MY BODY, MY CHOICE.OR MAYBE I'M PERSONALLY
  • 00:20:19.859 --> 00:20:21.227
  • OR MAYBE I'M PERSONALLYPRO-LIFE BUT I CAN'T
  • 00:20:21.227 --> 00:20:22.528
  • PRO-LIFE BUT I CAN'TIMPOSE MY VIEWS ON ANOTHER
  • 00:20:22.528 --> 00:20:24.830
  • IMPOSE MY VIEWS ON ANOTHERPERSON.
  • 00:20:24.830 --> 00:20:26.132
  • PERSON.OR WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE
  • 00:20:26.132 --> 00:20:27.767
  • OR WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THEKIDS WHO WILL BE UNWANTED?
  • 00:20:27.767 --> 00:20:28.301
  • KIDS WHO WILL BE UNWANTED?WHAT WILL THE WELFARE
  • 00:20:28.301 --> 00:20:29.602
  • WHAT WILL THE WELFARESTATE?
  • 00:20:29.602 --> 00:20:30.670
  • STATE?HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THEM?
  • 00:20:30.670 --> 00:20:33.072
  • HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THEM?WHAT ABOUT IF THE CHILD
  • 00:20:33.072 --> 00:20:34.206
  • WHAT ABOUT IF THE CHILDSUFFERS IN THIS WORLD,
  • 00:20:34.206 --> 00:20:35.541
  • SUFFERS IN THIS WORLD,IT DOESN'T DESERVE TO LIVE?
  • 00:20:35.541 --> 00:20:37.209
  • IT DOESN'T DESERVE TO LIVE?WHAT ABOUT THE FACT
  • 00:20:37.209 --> 00:20:38.477
  • WHAT ABOUT THE FACTTHERE'S SO MANY OTHER
  • 00:20:38.477 --> 00:20:39.078
  • THERE'S SO MANY OTHERPEOPLE SUFFERING IN THE
  • 00:20:39.078 --> 00:20:39.679
  • PEOPLE SUFFERING IN THEWORLD, WHY SHOULD WE CARE
  • 00:20:39.679 --> 00:20:41.914
  • WORLD, WHY SHOULD WE CAREABOUT THE FETUS?
  • 00:20:41.914 --> 00:20:42.748
  • ABOUT THE FETUS?MAYBE IT JUST SUCKS FOR
  • 00:20:42.748 --> 00:20:44.483
  • MAYBE IT JUST SUCKS FORYOU TO BE THAT FETUS?
  • 00:20:44.483 --> 00:20:45.718
  • YOU TO BE THAT FETUS?SO I DIVE INTO ALL CORNERS
  • 00:20:45.718 --> 00:20:47.720
  • SO I DIVE INTO ALL CORNERSOF THE DEBATE I FEEL LIKE
  • 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:49.088
  • OF THE DEBATE I FEEL LIKEPEOPLE ACTUALLY ASK ME
  • 00:20:49.088 --> 00:20:49.922
  • PEOPLE ACTUALLY ASK MEABOUT AND WANT TO KNOW
  • 00:20:49.922 --> 00:20:51.123
  • ABOUT AND WANT TO KNOWABOUT.
  • 00:20:51.123 --> 00:20:51.691
  • ABOUT.- ERIC: THE ONE THING I'M
  • 00:20:51.691 --> 00:20:53.092
  • - ERIC: THE ONE THING I'MALWAYS AMAZED BY, I
  • 00:20:53.092 --> 00:20:54.460
  • ALWAYS AMAZED BY, IMENTIONED IT ON TWITTER
  • 00:20:54.460 --> 00:20:55.594
  • MENTIONED IT ON TWITTERTHE OTHER DAY, PEOPLE
  • 00:20:55.594 --> 00:20:57.096
  • THE OTHER DAY, PEOPLEALWAYS TALK ABOUT A
  • 00:20:57.096 --> 00:20:58.431
  • ALWAYS TALK ABOUT AWOMAN SAYING SHE'S NOT
  • 00:20:58.431 --> 00:21:00.166
  • WOMAN SAYING SHE'S NOTREADY TO RAISE A CHILD.
  • 00:21:00.166 --> 00:21:01.567
  • READY TO RAISE A CHILD.I THINK TO MYSELF,
  • 00:21:01.567 --> 00:21:02.068
  • I THINK TO MYSELF,NOBODY'S ASKING YOU TO
  • 00:21:02.068 --> 00:21:02.501
  • NOBODY'S ASKING YOU TORAISE A CHILD.
  • 00:21:02.501 --> 00:21:03.536
  • RAISE A CHILD.YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO
  • 00:21:03.536 --> 00:21:04.570
  • YOU ARE BEING ASKED TOBEAR THE CHILD THAT'S
  • 00:21:04.570 --> 00:21:06.572
  • BEAR THE CHILD THAT'SINSIDE YOU BUT THERE ARE
  • 00:21:06.572 --> 00:21:08.507
  • INSIDE YOU BUT THERE AREHOSTS OF PEOPLE DYING TO
  • 00:21:08.507 --> 00:21:10.843
  • HOSTS OF PEOPLE DYING TORAISE THAT CHILD AND LOVE
  • 00:21:10.843 --> 00:21:12.445
  • RAISE THAT CHILD AND LOVETHAT CHILD AS THEIR OWN.
  • 00:21:12.445 --> 00:21:14.580
  • THAT CHILD AS THEIR OWN.WE'VE CEASED TO TALK ABOUT
  • 00:21:14.580 --> 00:21:17.516
  • WE'VE CEASED TO TALK ABOUTTHAT AS AN OPTION.
  • 00:21:17.516 --> 00:21:18.951
  • THAT AS AN OPTION.THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
  • 00:21:18.951 --> 00:21:19.685
  • THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO AREJUST DYING TO ADOPT A
  • 00:21:19.685 --> 00:21:21.020
  • JUST DYING TO ADOPT ACHILD.
  • 00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:22.955
  • CHILD.SO YOU DO NOT NEED TO
  • 00:21:22.955 --> 00:21:24.156
  • SO YOU DO NOT NEED TORAISE THAT CHILD.
  • 00:21:24.156 --> 00:21:25.091
  • RAISE THAT CHILD.IF YOU FEEL INCAPABLE.
  • 00:21:25.091 --> 00:21:26.325
  • IF YOU FEEL INCAPABLE.BUT YOU DO NEED TO HAVE
  • 00:21:26.325 --> 00:21:27.226
  • BUT YOU DO NEED TO HAVETHAT CHILD BECAUSE THAT
  • 00:21:27.226 --> 00:21:28.527
  • THAT CHILD BECAUSE THATCHILD IS A PERSON.
  • 00:21:28.527 --> 00:21:29.528
  • CHILD IS A PERSON.- DANIELLE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:21:29.528 --> 00:21:30.930
  • - DANIELLE: EXACTLY.I THINK THAT OFTENTIMES
  • 00:21:30.930 --> 00:21:32.631
  • I THINK THAT OFTENTIMESTHE LEFT REALLY WANTS TO
  • 00:21:32.631 --> 00:21:35.368
  • THE LEFT REALLY WANTS TOPIT IT AS MOTHER AGAINST
  • 00:21:35.368 --> 00:21:36.602
  • PIT IT AS MOTHER AGAINSTCHILD, AS THE MAN AGAINST
  • 00:21:36.602 --> 00:21:37.636
  • CHILD, AS THE MAN AGAINSTTHE WOMAN AND KIND OF ALL
  • 00:21:37.636 --> 00:21:38.938
  • THE WOMAN AND KIND OF ALLOF THESE DICHOTOMIES, IN
  • 00:21:38.938 --> 00:21:40.139
  • OF THESE DICHOTOMIES, INREALITY, THE CHOICE BEFORE
  • 00:21:40.139 --> 00:21:41.540
  • REALITY, THE CHOICE BEFORESOMEONE IF THEY SAY I
  • 00:21:41.540 --> 00:21:43.175
  • SOMEONE IF THEY SAY IDEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO
  • 00:21:43.175 --> 00:21:44.310
  • DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TORAISE THIS CHILD IS,
  • 00:21:44.310 --> 00:21:47.546
  • RAISE THIS CHILD IS,ADOPTION OR ABORTION.
  • 00:21:47.546 --> 00:21:48.080
  • ADOPTION OR ABORTION.AND I THINK THE FACT WE
  • 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:49.081
  • AND I THINK THE FACT WEDON'T PUSH ADOPTION ENOUGH
  • 00:21:49.081 --> 00:21:50.182
  • DON'T PUSH ADOPTION ENOUGHJUST SHOW THAT IS WOW!
  • 00:21:50.182 --> 00:21:52.318
  • JUST SHOW THAT IS WOW!THERE ARE THERE ARE
  • 00:21:52.318 --> 00:21:52.918
  • THERE ARE THERE AREACTUALLY ABOUT 35 FAMILIES
  • 00:21:52.918 --> 00:21:53.552
  • ACTUALLY ABOUT 35 FAMILIESWAITING FOR EVERY CHILD
  • 00:21:53.552 --> 00:21:54.553
  • WAITING FOR EVERY CHILDAVAILABLE TO BE ADOPTED.
  • 00:21:54.553 --> 00:21:55.921
  • AVAILABLE TO BE ADOPTED.SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY FIND
  • 00:21:55.921 --> 00:21:57.757
  • SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY FINDHOMES FOR ALL THESE KIDS.
  • 00:21:57.757 --> 00:21:59.058
  • HOMES FOR ALL THESE KIDS.IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO
  • 00:21:59.058 --> 00:21:59.592
  • IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TOADOPT.
  • 00:21:59.592 --> 00:22:01.293
  • ADOPT.MANY PARENTS WAIT A YEAR.
  • 00:22:01.293 --> 00:22:02.228
  • MANY PARENTS WAIT A YEAR.THEY GO THROUGH LONG
  • 00:22:02.228 --> 00:22:03.763
  • THEY GO THROUGH LONGPROCESSES.
  • 00:22:03.763 --> 00:22:04.597
  • PROCESSES.SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO
  • 00:22:04.597 --> 00:22:05.331
  • SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TOLOOK ABROAD TO ADOPT
  • 00:22:05.331 --> 00:22:06.298
  • LOOK ABROAD TO ADOPTBECAUSE IT'S SO HARD TO
  • 00:22:06.298 --> 00:22:07.032
  • BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD TOADOPT.
  • 00:22:07.032 --> 00:22:08.467
  • ADOPT.I THINK IF WE REALLY WANT
  • 00:22:08.467 --> 00:22:11.137
  • I THINK IF WE REALLY WANTTO TALK ABOUT WHAT PLANNED
  • 00:22:11.137 --> 00:22:12.238
  • TO TALK ABOUT WHAT PLANNEDPARENTHOOD IN THE SENSE OF
  • 00:22:12.238 --> 00:22:12.872
  • PARENTHOOD IN THE SENSE OFPLANNING WOULD BE, IT
  • 00:22:12.872 --> 00:22:14.507
  • PLANNING WOULD BE, ITWOULD BE ADOPTION SERVICES
  • 00:22:14.507 --> 00:22:15.975
  • WOULD BE ADOPTION SERVICESAND ORGANIZING THAT WHOLE
  • 00:22:15.975 --> 00:22:17.543
  • AND ORGANIZING THAT WHOLEOPERATION.
  • 00:22:17.543 --> 00:22:20.212
  • OPERATION.- ERIC: YEAH.
  • 00:22:20.212 --> 00:22:20.780
  • - ERIC: YEAH.IT REALLY IS SOMETHING WE
  • 00:22:20.780 --> 00:22:22.114
  • IT REALLY IS SOMETHING WENEED TO TALK ABOUT MORE.
  • 00:22:22.114 --> 00:22:23.849
  • NEED TO TALK ABOUT MORE.I THINK THAT PART OF WHAT
  • 00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:24.750
  • I THINK THAT PART OF WHATHAS HAPPENED IN THE
  • 00:22:24.750 --> 00:22:25.851
  • HAS HAPPENED IN THEWOMEN'S MOVEMENT AND THE
  • 00:22:25.851 --> 00:22:27.052
  • WOMEN'S MOVEMENT AND THEFEMINIST MOVEMENT IS IT
  • 00:22:27.052 --> 00:22:29.455
  • FEMINIST MOVEMENT IS ITBECOMES VERY SELFISH.
  • 00:22:29.455 --> 00:22:31.724
  • BECOMES VERY SELFISH.IT'S AN ANGRY ANTI MAN THING.
  • 00:22:31.724 --> 00:22:32.725
  • IT'S AN ANGRY ANTI MAN THING.IT'S KIND OF LIKE,
  • 00:22:32.725 --> 00:22:33.859
  • IT'S KIND OF LIKE,I'M TIRED OF LIVING FOR YOU.
  • 00:22:33.859 --> 00:22:35.127
  • I'M TIRED OF LIVING FOR YOU.I NEED TO LIVE FOR MYSELF.
  • 00:22:35.127 --> 00:22:36.629
  • I NEED TO LIVE FOR MYSELF.AND THAT BLEEDS INTO THIS
  • 00:22:36.629 --> 00:22:37.530
  • AND THAT BLEEDS INTO THISIDEA THAT I'M TIRED OF
  • 00:22:37.530 --> 00:22:38.531
  • IDEA THAT I'M TIRED OFLIVING FOR SOME
  • 00:22:38.531 --> 00:22:39.899
  • LIVING FOR SOMETHEORETICAL CHILD.
  • 00:22:39.899 --> 00:22:41.000
  • THEORETICAL CHILD.I NEED TO LIVE FOR ME.
  • 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:42.268
  • I NEED TO LIVE FOR ME.AND, YOU KNOW, BEING
  • 00:22:42.268 --> 00:22:43.936
  • AND, YOU KNOW, BEINGSELFLESS AND CONCERNED FOR
  • 00:22:43.936 --> 00:22:44.737
  • SELFLESS AND CONCERNED FOROTHERS IS ALWAYS A GOOD
  • 00:22:44.737 --> 00:22:46.205
  • OTHERS IS ALWAYS A GOODTHING.
  • 00:22:46.205 --> 00:22:48.407
  • THING.AND TAKING THE TREMENDOUS
  • 00:22:48.407 --> 00:22:51.343
  • AND TAKING THE TREMENDOUSTROUBLE TO BEAR A CHILD,
  • 00:22:51.343 --> 00:22:53.345
  • TROUBLE TO BEAR A CHILD,WE KNOW THAT IT'S ASKING
  • 00:22:53.345 --> 00:22:54.246
  • WE KNOW THAT IT'S ASKINGVERY MUCH OF A WOMAN BUT
  • 00:22:54.246 --> 00:22:55.514
  • VERY MUCH OF A WOMAN BUTIT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU
  • 00:22:55.514 --> 00:22:58.284
  • IT'S THE KIND OF THING YOUTHINK, WELL, IT'S THE LEAST
  • 00:22:58.284 --> 00:22:59.985
  • THINK, WELL, IT'S THE LEASTYOU CAN DO IF YOU WANT TO
  • 00:22:59.985 --> 00:23:02.488
  • YOU CAN DO IF YOU WANT TORAISE THE CHILD THAT'S
  • 00:23:02.488 --> 00:23:04.723
  • RAISE THE CHILD THAT'SGREAT.
  • 00:23:04.723 --> 00:23:05.224
  • GREAT.BUT AT LEAST GO TO THE
  • 00:23:05.224 --> 00:23:05.758
  • BUT AT LEAST GO TO THETROUBLE OF LETTING THAT
  • 00:23:05.758 --> 00:23:06.959
  • TROUBLE OF LETTING THATPERSON HAVE LIFE.
  • 00:23:06.959 --> 00:23:08.561
  • PERSON HAVE LIFE.DANIELLE, I KNOW YOU ARE
  • 00:23:08.561 --> 00:23:10.095
  • DANIELLE, I KNOW YOU AREGOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF
  • 00:23:10.095 --> 00:23:12.364
  • GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OFTALKING ON THIS SUBJECT.
  • 00:23:12.364 --> 00:23:13.799
  • TALKING ON THIS SUBJECT.I'M PROUD OF YOU, SINCE
  • 00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:14.433
  • I'M PROUD OF YOU, SINCEI'VE KNOWN YOU SINCE YOU
  • 00:23:14.433 --> 00:23:17.002
  • I'VE KNOWN YOU SINCE YOUWERE 14 OR 15.
  • 00:23:17.002 --> 00:23:18.003
  • WERE 14 OR 15.IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEE
  • 00:23:18.003 --> 00:23:19.004
  • IT IS WONDERFUL TO SEEWHAT YOU'RE DOING,
  • 00:23:19.004 --> 00:23:19.805
  • WHAT YOU'RE DOING,CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS
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  • CONGRATULATIONS ON THISBOOK, "THE CHOICE."
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  • BOOK, "THE CHOICE."I HOPE GOD BLESSES YOU AS
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  • I HOPE GOD BLESSES YOU ASYOU TALK ABOUT IT.
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  • YOU TALK ABOUT IT.THIS IS MUCH NEEDED AND SO
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  • THIS IS MUCH NEEDED AND SOARE YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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  • ARE YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.- DANIELLE: THANK YOU SO
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  • - DANIELLE: THANK YOU SOMUCH FOR HAVING ME.
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  • MUCH FOR HAVING ME.YOU ARE SO INSPIRING.
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  • YOU ARE SO INSPIRING.I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS
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  • I REALLY APPRECIATE THISGREAT CONVERSATION.
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  • GREAT CONVERSATION.- ERIC: THANK YOU.
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  • - ERIC: THANK YOU.[POPPING SOUND]
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  • [POPPING SOUND]♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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