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December 25, 2020
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THISPROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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  • PROGRAM IS SPONSORED INPART BY CARSHIELD,
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  • PART BY CARSHIELD,GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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  • GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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  • OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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  • [SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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  • [BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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  • [PLOP][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][BOINK]
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  • [BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CRASH]
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  • [CRASH][CHEERS]
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  • - ERIC: FOLKS, I'M
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  • - ERIC: FOLKS, I'MTALKIN' TO MY FRIEND
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  • TALKIN' TO MY FRIENDPASTOR GREG LAURIE.
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  • PASTOR GREG LAURIE.HE'S NOT JUST A PASTOR.
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  • HE'S NOT JUST A PASTOR.HE'S AN AUTHOR.
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  • HE'S AN AUTHOR.HE'S AN EVANGELIST.
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  • HE'S AN EVANGELIST.GREG, YOU'VE WRITTEN SO
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  • GREG, YOU'VE WRITTEN SOMANY BOOKS, AND SOMETIMES
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  • MANY BOOKS, AND SOMETIMESPEOPLE WRITE BOOKS,
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  • PEOPLE WRITE BOOKS,AND I GO,
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  • AND I GO,"I'M SO GLAD THAT
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  • "I'M SO GLAD THATPERSON WROTE THAT BOOK
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  • PERSON WROTE THAT BOOK'CAUSE NOW I DON'T HAVE TO."
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  • 'CAUSE NOW I DON'T HAVE TO."I'M NOT EVEN JOKING.
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  • I'M NOT EVEN JOKING.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]YOU'VE WRITTEN A FEW BOOKS
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  • YOU'VE WRITTEN A FEW BOOKSABOUT JOHNNY CASH,
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  • ABOUT JOHNNY CASH,ABOUT STEVE MCQUEEN, AND
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  • ABOUT STEVE MCQUEEN, ANDNOW THE NEW ONE COMIN' UP
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  • NOW THE NEW ONE COMIN' UPIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE
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  • IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS HEREABOUT BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • ABOUT BILLY GRAHAM.THESE ARE THE KIND OF
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  • YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THE
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  • YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THETIME AND YOU HADN'T
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  • TIME AND YOU HADN'TWRITTEN THEM, I WOULD SAY,
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  • WRITTEN THEM, I WOULD SAY,"SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL
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  • "SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELLTHAT STORY."
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  • THAT STORY."YOU TOLD THE STORY OF
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  • YOU TOLD THE STORY OFSTEVE MCQUEEN
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  • STEVE MCQUEENCOMING TO FAITH.
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  • COMING TO FAITH.YOU TOLD THE STORY OF
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  • YOU TOLD THE STORY OFJOHNNY CASH AND HIS
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  • JOHNNY CASH AND HISPROFOUND CHRISTIAN FAITH,
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  • PROFOUND CHRISTIAN FAITH,AND NOW THE THIRD IN THIS
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  • AND NOW THE THIRD IN THISSERIES IS ABOUT
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  • SERIES IS ABOUTBILLY GRAHAM.
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  • BILLY GRAHAM.WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THAT
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  • WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THATBOOK?
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  • BOOK?- GREG LAURIE: IT'S
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  • - GREG LAURIE: IT'SCALLED "BILLY GRAHAM:
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  • CALLED "BILLY GRAHAM:THE MAN I KNEW."
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  • BILLY'S SORT OF THE GLUE
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  • BILLY'S SORT OF THE GLUEBETWEEN JOHNNY AND STEVE.
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  • BETWEEN JOHNNY AND STEVE.BILLY WAS VERY CLOSE WITH
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  • JOHNNY HAD A LOT OF
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  • JOHNNY HAD A LOT OFSTRUGGLES.
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  • STRUGGLES.HE STRUGGLED WITH
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  • HE STRUGGLED WITHAMPHETAMINES THAT HE
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  • AMPHETAMINES THAT HESTARTED USING WHEN HE
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  • HE WAS ON THE ROAD, AND HE
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  • HE WAS ON THE ROAD, AND HESTRUGGLED WITH THEM
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  • STRUGGLED WITH THEMTHROUGHOUT HIS LIFE AND
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  • THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE ANDWAS ARRESTED A FEW TIMES
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  • WAS ARRESTED A FEW TIMESAND NEVER SERVED TIME IN
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  • AND NEVER SERVED TIME INPRISON.
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  • BUT HE WAS A STRUGGLING
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  • BUT HE WAS A STRUGGLINGCHRISTIAN, BUT I UNDERLINED
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  • CHRISTIAN, BUT I UNDERLINEDTHE WORD "CHRISTIAN."
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  • THE WORD "CHRISTIAN."HE WAS A CHRISTIAN.
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  • HE WAS A CHRISTIAN.AND BILLY CONTINUED TO USE
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  • AND BILLY CONTINUED TO USEJOHNNY AND BE FRIENDS WITH
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  • JOHNNY AND BE FRIENDS WITHJOHNNY, AND HE'D HAVE
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  • JOHNNY, AND HE'D HAVEJOHNNY PLAY AT HIS
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  • JOHNNY PLAY AT HISCRUSADES WHICH WAS A VERY
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  • CRUSADES WHICH WAS A VERYRISKY THING FOR BILLY TO
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  • RISKY THING FOR BILLY TODO AT THAT POINT IN HIS
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  • DO AT THAT POINT IN HISCAREER.
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  • CAREER.AND THEN, WITH MCQUEEN,
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  • AND THEN, WITH MCQUEEN,WHEN MCQUEEN CAME TO
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  • WHEN MCQUEEN CAME TOCHRIST, HE FOUND OUT HE
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  • CHRIST, HE FOUND OUT HEHAD CANCER ABOUT NINE
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  • HAD CANCER ABOUT NINEMONTHS TO A YEAR LATER,
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  • MONTHS TO A YEAR LATER,AND AS HE REALIZED HE
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  • AND AS HE REALIZED HEWASN'T GONNA MAKE IT, HE
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  • WASN'T GONNA MAKE IT, HEPUT OUT THE REQUEST
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  • PUT OUT THE REQUESTTHROUGH HIS PASTOR,
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  • THROUGH HIS PASTOR,LEONARD DEWITT, TO MAYBE
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  • LEONARD DEWITT, TO MAYBEMEET BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • AND THEY HAD PRAYER
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  • AND THEY HAD PRAYERTOGETHER, AND THEN BILLY
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  • TOGETHER, AND THEN BILLYGAVE HIS BIBLE TO STEVE.
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  • GAVE HIS BIBLE TO STEVE.STEVE WAS ON HIS WAY TO A
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  • STEVE WAS ON HIS WAY TO ACLINIC IN JUAREZ, MEXICO,
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  • CLINIC IN JUAREZ, MEXICO,TO RECEIVE SORT OF AN
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  • TO RECEIVE SORT OF ANUNORTHODOX TREATMENT FOR
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  • UNORTHODOX TREATMENT FORHIS CANCER.
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  • HIS CANCER.AND SO STEVE HAD FORGOTTEN
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  • AND SO STEVE HAD FORGOTTENHIS BIBLE, AND BILLY GAVE
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  • HIS BIBLE, AND BILLY GAVEHIS BIBLE TO STEVE AND
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  • AND THEN STEVE TRAGICALLY
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  • AND THEN STEVE TRAGICALLYDIED IN JUAREZ, MEXICO,
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  • DIED IN JUAREZ, MEXICO,AND THEY PULLED THE SHEET
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  • AND THEY PULLED THE SHEETDOWN, AND HE WAS HOLDING
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  • THAT WAS THE LAST THING HE
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  • THAT WAS THE LAST THING HEWAS HOLDING ONTO.
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  • WAS HOLDING ONTO.SO BILLY GRAHAM, YOU KNOW,
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  • SO BILLY GRAHAM, YOU KNOW,THERE'S GLUE BETWEEN THESE
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  • THERE'S GLUE BETWEEN THESETWO WELL-KNOWN FIGURES,
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  • TWO WELL-KNOWN FIGURES,THE KING OF COOL
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  • THE KING OF COOLSTEVE MCQUEEN, THE GODFATHER
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  • STEVE MCQUEEN, THE GODFATHEROF COOL JOHNNY CASH, AND,
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  • OF COOL JOHNNY CASH, AND,TO ME, THE COOLEST CAT OF
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  • TO ME, THE COOLEST CAT OFALL, BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • ALL, BILLY GRAHAM.HE'S GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL
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  • HE'S GONNA HAVE A SPECIALSTATUE IN STATUARY HALL,
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  • STATUE IN STATUARY HALL,AND HE'S GONNA BE
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  • AND HE'S GONNA BEREMEMBERED.
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  • REMEMBERED.HE'S A HISTORICAL FIGURE
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  • HE'S A HISTORICAL FIGUREBEYOND EVEN JUST
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  • BUT THE REASON I WROTE A
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  • BUT THE REASON I WROTE ABOOK ABOUT HIM, ERIC, IS I
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  • BOOK ABOUT HIM, ERIC, IS IWANTED TO SHOW THE HUMAN
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  • WANTED TO SHOW THE HUMANSIDE, THE REAL SIDE, THE
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  • SIDE, THE REAL SIDE, THEPERSONAL SIDE, AND,
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  • PERSONAL SIDE, AND,ACTUALLY, AS I GOT TO KNOW
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  • ACTUALLY, AS I GOT TO KNOWBILLY AS A PERSON AND AS A
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  • BILLY AS A PERSON AND AS AFRIEND, HE WAS EVEN MORE
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  • FRIEND, HE WAS EVEN MOREIMPRESSIVE, AND HE ALREADY
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  • IMPRESSIVE, AND HE ALREADYWAS SO IMPRESSIVE AS A
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  • WAS SO IMPRESSIVE AS APUBLIC FIGURE, BUT HE WAS
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  • PUBLIC FIGURE, BUT HE WASEVERYTHING I HOPED HE
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  • EVERYTHING I HOPED HEWOULD BE AND MORE AS I GOT
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  • - ERIC: IT'S AMAZING, TO
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  • - ERIC: IT'S AMAZING, TOME, THAT YOU KNEW HIM THE WAY
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  • ME, THAT YOU KNEW HIM THE WAYYOU DID BECAUSE I JUST
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  • YOU DID BECAUSE I JUSTREVERED HIM SO MUCH.
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  • REVERED HIM SO MUCH.I THINK TOLD THE STORY THAT--
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  • I THINK TOLD THE STORY THAT--OR I TOLD YOU THE STORY THAT,
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  • OR I TOLD YOU THE STORY THAT,WHEN I WAS AT YALE,
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  • WHEN I WAS AT YALE,I HAD WALKED AWAY FROM
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  • I HAD WALKED AWAY FROMTHE CHRISTIAN GROUP ON CAMPUS.
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  • THE CHRISTIAN GROUP ON CAMPUS.I THOUGHT, "I'M TOO COOL
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  • I THOUGHT, "I'M TOO COOLNOW TO HANG OUT WITH THE
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  • NOW TO HANG OUT WITH THECHRISTIANS, AND THEY'RE
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  • CHRISTIANS, AND THEY'RESORT OF ODD, AND I'LL HANG
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  • SORT OF ODD, AND I'LL HANGOUT WITH THE LITERARY
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  • OUT WITH THE LITERARYCROWD.
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  • CROWD.WE'LL SMOKE, LIKE, CLOVE
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  • WE'LL SMOKE, LIKE, CLOVECIGARETTES AND, YOU KNOW,
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  • CIGARETTES AND, YOU KNOW,BE COOL."
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  • BE COOL."[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]AND JUST AS I STEPPED AWAY
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  • AND JUST AS I STEPPED AWAYFROM THE CHRISTIAN GROUP
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  • THIS IS A TRUE STORY, AND
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  • THIS IS A TRUE STORY, ANDI WAS KIND OF, LIKE,
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  • I WAS KIND OF, LIKE,TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY
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  • TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MYOWN PATH OR WHATEVER,
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  • OWN PATH OR WHATEVER,WHEREVER I WAS.
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  • WHEREVER I WAS.ONE DAY, I HEARD
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  • ONE DAY, I HEARDBILLY GRAHAM'S COMING TO
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  • BILLY GRAHAM'S COMING TOCAMPUS TO SPEAK AT YALE,
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  • CAMPUS TO SPEAK AT YALE,AND I THOUGHT, "WHAT?"
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  • AND I THOUGHT, "WHAT?"LIKE, THIS INCREDIBLE--
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  • LIKE, THIS INCREDIBLE--YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS
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  • YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYSBEEN, LIKE, A CELEBRITY
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  • BEEN, LIKE, A CELEBRITYHOUND.
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  • HOUND.I'M LIKE, "WOW,
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  • I'M LIKE, "WOW,BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • BILLY GRAHAM.HE'S COMING TO CAMPUS."
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  • HE'S COMING TO CAMPUS."AND I WASN'T, YOU KNOW,
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  • AND I WASN'T, YOU KNOW,NOT A CHRISTIAN.
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  • NOT A CHRISTIAN.I WAS JUST KIND OF NOT
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  • I WAS JUST KIND OF NOTHANGIN' OUT WITH THE
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  • HANGIN' OUT WITH THECHRISTIAN GROUP ON CAMPUS
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  • AND SO I THOUGHT, "I'VE
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  • AND SO I THOUGHT, "I'VEGOTTA GO SEE BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • GOTTA GO SEE BILLY GRAHAM.HE'S GONNA SPEAK IN
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  • HE'S GONNA SPEAK INBATTELL CHAPEL, AND I'M
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  • BATTELL CHAPEL, AND I'MGOING," YOU KNOW.
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  • GOING," YOU KNOW.AND, I WAS SITTING IN THE
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  • AND, I WAS SITTING IN THECALHOUN DINING HALL.
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  • CALHOUN DINING HALL.THAT'S ONE OF THE 12,
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  • THAT'S ONE OF THE 12,THEN, RESIDENTIAL COLLEGES
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  • THEN, RESIDENTIAL COLLEGESIN THE '80s, AND I'M
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  • IN THE '80s, AND I'MSITTIN' THERE, YOU KNOW,
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  • SITTIN' THERE, YOU KNOW,PROBABLY TALKIN' ABOUT
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  • PROBABLY TALKIN' ABOUT"THE LITTLE RASCALS"
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  • "THE LITTLE RASCALS"WITH MY FRIENDS OR SOME GOOFY
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  • WITH MY FRIENDS OR SOME GOOFYTRIVIA, TV TRIVIA,
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  • AND INTO THE DINING HALL,
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  • AND INTO THE DINING HALL,INTO THIS DINING HALL OF
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  • INTO THIS DINING HALL OFALL 12, WALKS
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  • ALL 12, WALKSBILLY GRAHAM, AND ALL THE
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  • BILLY GRAHAM, AND ALL THESTUDENTS IN THAT CHRISTIAN
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  • STUDENTS IN THAT CHRISTIANFELLOWSHIP, AND THEY WALK
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  • FELLOWSHIP, AND THEY WALKINTO A SIDE DOOR AND HAD
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  • BILLY GRAHAM HAD DINNER
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  • BILLY GRAHAM HAD DINNERWITH THAT GROUP THAT, IF I
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  • WITH THAT GROUP THAT, IF IHAD NOT QUIT THAT GROUP A
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  • HAD NOT QUIT THAT GROUP AFEW WEEKS BEFORE, I
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  • FEW WEEKS BEFORE, IWOULD'VE BEEN HAVING
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  • WOULD'VE BEEN HAVINGDINNER WITH BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • DINNER WITH BILLY GRAHAM.AND I WILL NEVER FORGET
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  • AND I WILL NEVER FORGETTHAT FEELING LIKE, "OH, MY
  • 00:05:12.425 --> 00:05:13.893
  • THAT FEELING LIKE, "OH, MYGOSH, OH, MY GOSH," 'CAUSE
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  • AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE I
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  • AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE IKNEW THAT I NEVER WOULD
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  • KNEW THAT I NEVER WOULDMEET BILLY GRAHAM.
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  • MEET BILLY GRAHAM.I HOPED TO MEET HIM ALL
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  • I HOPED TO MEET HIM ALLTHESE YEARS, BUT I NEVER
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  • THESE YEARS, BUT I NEVERMET HIM, AND HE WAS SUCH A
  • 00:05:23.169 --> 00:05:26.639
  • SO IT AMAZES ME WHENEVER I
  • 00:05:28.241 --> 00:05:28.775
  • SO IT AMAZES ME WHENEVER ITALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNEW
  • 00:05:28.775 --> 00:05:29.375
  • TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNEWHIM PERSONALLY THE WAY YOU
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  • HIM PERSONALLY THE WAY YOUDID.
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  • DID.YOU KNOW, I'M JUST IN AWE
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  • YOU KNOW, I'M JUST IN AWEOF THAT BECAUSE, NOT ONLY
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  • OF THAT BECAUSE, NOT ONLYDID YOU KNOW HIM AS A
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  • DID YOU KNOW HIM AS AFRIEND, HE WAS YOUR MENTOR
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  • FRIEND, HE WAS YOUR MENTORAS AN EVANGELIST.
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  • AS AN EVANGELIST.YOU ARE TODAY DOING WHAT
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  • YOU'RE DOING GIGANTIC
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  • YOU'RE DOING GIGANTICCRUSADES IN STADIUMS,
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  • CRUSADES IN STADIUMS,OBVIOUSLY, NOT RECENTLY
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  • OBVIOUSLY, NOT RECENTLY'CAUSE OF THE WEIRD
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  • 'CAUSE OF THE WEIRDSHUTDOWN, BUT IT'S JUST,
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  • SHUTDOWN, BUT IT'S JUST,I'M IN AWE OF IT BECAUSE,
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  • I'M IN AWE OF IT BECAUSE,AS YOU JUST SAID, THERE'S
  • 00:05:51.898 --> 00:05:53.533
  • AS YOU JUST SAID, THERE'SNOBODY LIKE HIM.
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  • NOBODY LIKE HIM.THERE'S JUST-- THERE WAS
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  • THERE'S JUST-- THERE WASNOBODY LIKE HIM.
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  • NOBODY LIKE HIM.HE WAS A UNIQUE FIGURE IN
  • 00:05:58.204 --> 00:05:59.338
  • HE WAS A UNIQUE FIGURE INTHE 20TH CENTURY.
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  • THE 20TH CENTURY.- GREG: HE REALLY WAS,
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  • - GREG: HE REALLY WAS,AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKIN' OF
  • 00:06:01.174 --> 00:06:02.442
  • AND, YOU KNOW, SPEAKIN' OFHAVING DINNER WITH HIM, I
  • 00:06:02.442 --> 00:06:05.311
  • HAVING DINNER WITH HIM, IHAD LUNCH WITH HIM ONCE.
  • 00:06:05.311 --> 00:06:05.878
  • HAD LUNCH WITH HIM ONCE.HE WAS DOING ONE OF HIS
  • 00:06:05.878 --> 00:06:06.579
  • HE WAS DOING ONE OF HISCRUSADES, AND WE WENT TO
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  • OR AS BILLY WOULD'VE SAID--
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  • OR AS BILLY WOULD'VE SAID--[IMITATING BILLY]
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  • YOU KNOW, WITH "LOBSTAH."
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  • YOU KNOW, WITH "LOBSTAH."[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]BUT, SO WERE SITTING
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  • BUT, SO WERE SITTINGTHERE, AND, YOU KNOW,
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  • THERE, AND, YOU KNOW,BILLY HAD A BALL CAP ON,
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  • BILLY HAD A BALL CAP ON,AND HERE'S THE FUNNY
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  • AND HERE'S THE FUNNYTHING: WHILE WE'RE IN TOWN
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  • THING: WHILE WE'RE IN TOWNWHERE BILLY'S DOIN' A
  • 00:06:21.894 --> 00:06:22.528
  • WHERE BILLY'S DOIN' ACRUSADE, THERE WAS AN
  • 00:06:22.528 --> 00:06:23.062
  • CRUSADE, THERE WAS ANATHEIST CONVENTION
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  • ATHEIST CONVENTIONHAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
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  • HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.SO WE'RE SITTING AT THIS
  • 00:06:27.934 --> 00:06:28.434
  • SO WE'RE SITTING AT THISTABLE, AND PEOPLE
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  • TABLE, AND PEOPLERECOGNIZE BILLY EVEN
  • 00:06:29.001 --> 00:06:30.803
  • RECOGNIZE BILLY EVENTHOUGH HE HAS A BALL CAP
  • 00:06:30.803 --> 00:06:32.205
  • THOUGH HE HAS A BALL CAPPULLED OVER HIS FACE.
  • 00:06:32.205 --> 00:06:33.105
  • PULLED OVER HIS FACE.HE HAD SORT OF THAT
  • 00:06:33.105 --> 00:06:33.739
  • HE HAD SORT OF THATPROFILE THAT LOOKED LIKE
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  • PROFILE THAT LOOKED LIKEIT BELONGED ON MOUNT RUSHMORE,
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  • IT BELONGED ON MOUNT RUSHMORE,YOU KNOW?
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  • YOU KNOW?AND IT'S A FUNNY THING.
  • 00:06:35.775 --> 00:06:37.410
  • AND IT'S A FUNNY THING.HERE ARE THESE ATHEISTS
  • 00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:39.512
  • HERE ARE THESE ATHEISTSWHO WERE IMPRESSED BY
  • 00:06:39.512 --> 00:06:41.080
  • WHO WERE IMPRESSED BYBILLY GRAHAM: "OH, HELLO,
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  • BILLY GRAHAM: "OH, HELLO,MR. GRAHAM."
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  • MR. GRAHAM."AND THEY'RE SHAKING
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  • AND THEY'RE SHAKINGHIS HAND.
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  • HIS HAND.AND YOU COULD TELL 'CAUSE
  • 00:06:43.850 --> 00:06:44.584
  • AND YOU COULD TELL 'CAUSETHEY HAVE THE LITTLE NAME
  • 00:06:44.584 --> 00:06:45.785
  • THEY HAVE THE LITTLE NAMETAG FOR THE CONVENTION
  • 00:06:45.785 --> 00:06:46.819
  • TAG FOR THE CONVENTIONTHEY WERE AT, AND THEY
  • 00:06:46.819 --> 00:06:47.687
  • THEY WERE AT, AND THEYWERE PART OF THIS ATHEIST
  • 00:06:47.687 --> 00:06:49.822
  • WERE PART OF THIS ATHEISTCONVENTION.
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  • CONVENTION.HE WAS SO KIND TO THEM,
  • 00:06:50.323 --> 00:06:51.557
  • HE WAS SO KIND TO THEM,AND I JUST THOUGHT, "THIS
  • 00:06:51.557 --> 00:06:52.558
  • AND I JUST THOUGHT, "THISIS HOW JESUS WOULD BE."
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  • IS HOW JESUS WOULD BE."YOU KNOW, "OH, YOU'RE AN
  • 00:06:54.460 --> 00:06:56.162
  • WELL, LISTEN, HE'S A--
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  • WELL, LISTEN, HE'S A--BILLY'S A REPRESENTATIVE
  • 00:06:57.830 --> 00:06:58.431
  • BILLY'S A REPRESENTATIVEOF CHRIST, AND HE WAS A
  • 00:06:58.431 --> 00:06:59.565
  • OF CHRIST, AND HE WAS AVERY CARING, GIVING GUY,
  • 00:06:59.565 --> 00:07:00.766
  • VERY CARING, GIVING GUY,BUT WHEN YOU WOULD SIT AND
  • 00:07:00.766 --> 00:07:02.835
  • BUT WHEN YOU WOULD SIT ANDHAVE A MEAL WITH HIM,
  • 00:07:02.835 --> 00:07:03.436
  • HAVE A MEAL WITH HIM,HE WOULD ASK YOU-- HE'D SAY,
  • 00:07:03.436 --> 00:07:05.171
  • AND HE REALLY WAS
  • 00:07:06.272 --> 00:07:06.839
  • AND HE REALLY WASINTERESTED, AND HE WOULD
  • 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:07.573
  • INTERESTED, AND HE WOULDLISTEN.
  • 00:07:07.573 --> 00:07:08.474
  • LISTEN.YOU KNOW, IT WAS SAID OF
  • 00:07:08.474 --> 00:07:11.444
  • YOU KNOW, IT WAS SAID OFJESUS THAT HE WAS THE
  • 00:07:11.444 --> 00:07:13.079
  • JESUS THAT HE WAS THE"FRIEND OF SINNERS," AND
  • 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:13.613
  • "FRIEND OF SINNERS," ANDTHAT WAS A CRITICISM
  • 00:07:13.613 --> 00:07:15.348
  • THAT WAS A CRITICISMLEVELED AT HIM BY THE
  • 00:07:15.348 --> 00:07:16.649
  • LEVELED AT HIM BY THEPHARISEES, BUT HE WAS A
  • 00:07:16.649 --> 00:07:17.683
  • PHARISEES, BUT HE WAS AFRIEND OF SINNERS, AND SO
  • 00:07:17.683 --> 00:07:20.920
  • FRIEND OF SINNERS, AND SOA MAN LIKE ZACCHAEUS HAD A
  • 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:24.257
  • A MAN LIKE ZACCHAEUS HAD ACONVERSATION WITH JESUS,
  • 00:07:24.257 --> 00:07:25.324
  • CONVERSATION WITH JESUS,OR THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN THE
  • 00:07:25.324 --> 00:07:26.526
  • OR THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN THEACT OF ADULTERY,
  • 00:07:26.526 --> 00:07:28.861
  • ACT OF ADULTERY,OR THE WOMAN AT THE WELL,
  • 00:07:28.861 --> 00:07:29.862
  • OR THE WOMAN AT THE WELL,AND HE WOULD BUILD BRIDGES TO
  • 00:07:29.862 --> 00:07:30.396
  • AND HE WOULD BUILD BRIDGES TOTHEM.
  • 00:07:30.396 --> 00:07:31.564
  • THEM.JESUS WAS ALWAYS BUILDING
  • 00:07:31.564 --> 00:07:33.032
  • JESUS WAS ALWAYS BUILDINGBRIDGES TO PEOPLE.
  • 00:07:33.032 --> 00:07:34.066
  • BRIDGES TO PEOPLE.AND SO BILLY GRAHAM REALLY
  • 00:07:34.066 --> 00:07:35.735
  • AND SO BILLY GRAHAM REALLYEMULATED THAT.
  • 00:07:35.735 --> 00:07:36.802
  • EMULATED THAT.HE WAS THE MOST GODLY MAN
  • 00:07:36.802 --> 00:07:37.737
  • HE WAS THE MOST GODLY MANI EVER MET.
  • 00:07:37.737 --> 00:07:39.138
  • I EVER MET.I MEAN, I THINK HE WAS ONE
  • 00:07:39.138 --> 00:07:40.239
  • I MEAN, I THINK HE WAS ONEOF THE GREATEST PREACHERS
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  • OF THE GREATEST PREACHERSIN HUMAN HISTORY, BUT YET
  • 00:07:41.507 --> 00:07:44.911
  • IN HUMAN HISTORY, BUT YETTHERE WAS THIS WONDERFUL,
  • 00:07:44.911 --> 00:07:46.479
  • THERE WAS THIS WONDERFUL,SWEET QUALITY, A HUMILITY.
  • 00:07:46.479 --> 00:07:47.480
  • SWEET QUALITY, A HUMILITY.I MEAN, HE WAS A SOUTHERN
  • 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:48.848
  • I MEAN, HE WAS A SOUTHERNMAN, SO HE WAS A GENTLEMAN
  • 00:07:48.848 --> 00:07:50.049
  • BUT HE WAS ALWAYS VERY
  • 00:07:52.151 --> 00:07:53.686
  • BUT HE WAS ALWAYS VERYINTERESTED IN EVERYONE HE
  • 00:07:53.686 --> 00:07:54.320
  • INTERESTED IN EVERYONE HETALKED TO AND NOT JUST
  • 00:07:54.320 --> 00:07:54.954
  • TALKED TO AND NOT JUSTFAMOUS PEOPLE--
  • 00:07:54.954 --> 00:07:56.122
  • FAMOUS PEOPLE--JUST REGULAR PEOPLE.
  • 00:07:56.122 --> 00:07:57.290
  • JUST REGULAR PEOPLE.HE TOOK AN INTEREST IN
  • 00:07:57.290 --> 00:07:58.324
  • HE TOOK AN INTEREST INTHEM, AND THEY COULD SEE
  • 00:07:58.324 --> 00:08:00.726
  • THEM, AND THEY COULD SEETHAT, AND I THINK THEY
  • 00:08:00.726 --> 00:08:01.661
  • THAT, AND I THINK THEYWOULD JUST, SORT OF, END
  • 00:08:01.661 --> 00:08:02.628
  • WOULD JUST, SORT OF, ENDUP OPENING THEIR HEART TO
  • 00:08:02.628 --> 00:08:03.162
  • UP OPENING THEIR HEART TOHIM AS A RESULT.
  • 00:08:03.162 --> 00:08:04.463
  • YOU THINK ABOUT HERE'S A
  • 00:08:06.098 --> 00:08:07.266
  • YOU THINK ABOUT HERE'S AGUY WHO HE FIRST BEGAN TO
  • 00:08:07.266 --> 00:08:08.668
  • GUY WHO HE FIRST BEGAN TOHAVE COMMUNICATION WITH
  • 00:08:08.668 --> 00:08:09.835
  • HAVE COMMUNICATION WITHTHE PRESIDENTS, STARTING
  • 00:08:09.835 --> 00:08:11.604
  • THE PRESIDENTS, STARTINGWITH TRUMAN.
  • 00:08:11.604 --> 00:08:12.204
  • WITH TRUMAN.THAT DIDN'T GO SO WELL.
  • 00:08:12.204 --> 00:08:13.272
  • THAT DIDN'T GO SO WELL.HE LEARNED SOME IMPORTANT
  • 00:08:13.272 --> 00:08:13.839
  • HE LEARNED SOME IMPORTANTLESSONS THERE BECAUSE HE
  • 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.675
  • LESSONS THERE BECAUSE HEKIND OF CROSSED THE LINE,
  • 00:08:15.675 --> 00:08:17.143
  • KIND OF CROSSED THE LINE,BY HIS OWN ADMISSION,
  • 00:08:17.143 --> 00:08:18.477
  • BY HIS OWN ADMISSION,IN HIS MEETING WITH THE
  • 00:08:18.477 --> 00:08:19.378
  • IN HIS MEETING WITH THEPRESIDENT AND TALKED ABOUT
  • 00:08:19.378 --> 00:08:21.047
  • PRESIDENT AND TALKED ABOUTIT AFTERWARDS TO THE PRESS
  • 00:08:21.047 --> 00:08:22.548
  • IT AFTERWARDS TO THE PRESSAND NEVER DID THAT AGAIN.
  • 00:08:22.548 --> 00:08:23.549
  • AND NEVER DID THAT AGAIN.BUT THEN, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:08:23.549 --> 00:08:25.318
  • BUT THEN, YOU KNOW,FAST-FORWARDING THROUGH
  • 00:08:25.318 --> 00:08:25.885
  • FAST-FORWARDING THROUGHTHE VARIOUS PRESIDENTS,
  • 00:08:25.885 --> 00:08:27.119
  • THE VARIOUS PRESIDENTS,BILLY WAS VERY CLOSE WITH
  • 00:08:27.119 --> 00:08:29.889
  • BILLY WAS VERY CLOSE WITHEISENHOWER, WITH NIXON,
  • 00:08:29.889 --> 00:08:30.890
  • EISENHOWER, WITH NIXON,WITH KENNEDY, WITH
  • 00:08:30.890 --> 00:08:33.359
  • WITH KENNEDY, WITHJOHNSON, OF COURSE,
  • 00:08:33.359 --> 00:08:34.026
  • JOHNSON, OF COURSE,WITH REAGAN, VERY CLOSE
  • 00:08:34.026 --> 00:08:35.995
  • WITH REAGAN, VERY CLOSEWITH REAGAN.
  • 00:08:35.995 --> 00:08:37.263
  • WITH REAGAN.AND EVEN PRESIDENT OBAMA
  • 00:08:37.263 --> 00:08:38.364
  • AND EVEN PRESIDENT OBAMAWENT TO SEE BILLY AT HIS
  • 00:08:38.364 --> 00:08:42.001
  • WENT TO SEE BILLY AT HISHOME IN MONTREAT,
  • 00:08:42.001 --> 00:08:43.436
  • HOME IN MONTREAT,NORTH CAROLINA, AND YOU COULD
  • 00:08:43.436 --> 00:08:44.070
  • NORTH CAROLINA, AND YOU COULDARGUABLY SAY BILLY HAD A
  • 00:08:44.070 --> 00:08:45.338
  • ARGUABLY SAY BILLY HAD ARELATIONSHIP WITH DONALD TRUMP,
  • 00:08:45.338 --> 00:08:46.038
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH DONALD TRUMP,NOT WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT,
  • 00:08:46.038 --> 00:08:47.340
  • NOT WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT,BUT WHEN HE WAS STILL
  • 00:08:47.340 --> 00:08:48.207
  • BUT WHEN HE WAS STILLA BUSINESSMAN BECAUSE
  • 00:08:48.207 --> 00:08:49.709
  • A BUSINESSMAN BECAUSETRUMP CAME TO
  • 00:08:49.709 --> 00:08:52.144
  • TRUMP CAME TOBILLY'S 95TH BIRTHDAY
  • 00:08:52.144 --> 00:08:53.579
  • BILLY'S 95TH BIRTHDAYPARTY AND SAT AT THE TABLE
  • 00:08:53.579 --> 00:08:54.380
  • PARTY AND SAT AT THE TABLEWITH HIM, SO THEY HAD A
  • 00:08:54.380 --> 00:08:55.214
  • WITH HIM, SO THEY HAD ACONVERSATION AND A
  • 00:08:55.214 --> 00:08:58.117
  • CONVERSATION AND ARELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:08:58.117 --> 00:08:58.618
  • RELATIONSHIP.SO, TO ME, THIS IS A
  • 00:08:58.618 --> 00:08:59.285
  • SO, TO ME, THIS IS ABEAUTIFUL THING.
  • 00:08:59.285 --> 00:09:00.686
  • BEAUTIFUL THING.IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE
  • 00:09:00.686 --> 00:09:01.854
  • IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WEWANNA-- YOU KNOW, PAUL
  • 00:09:01.854 --> 00:09:02.855
  • WANNA-- YOU KNOW, PAULSAYS HE BECOMES ALL THINGS
  • 00:09:02.855 --> 00:09:03.823
  • SAYS HE BECOMES ALL THINGSTO ALL MEN THAT HE MIGHT
  • 00:09:03.823 --> 00:09:05.124
  • TO ALL MEN THAT HE MIGHTWIN THEM TO CHRIST, AND
  • 00:09:05.124 --> 00:09:05.925
  • WIN THEM TO CHRIST, ANDTHAT DOESN'T MEAN WE
  • 00:09:05.925 --> 00:09:06.792
  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN WECOMPROMISE OUR VIEWS.
  • 00:09:06.792 --> 00:09:08.194
  • COMPROMISE OUR VIEWS.IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DO
  • 00:09:08.194 --> 00:09:10.463
  • IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DOSOMETHING THAT IS EVER
  • 00:09:10.463 --> 00:09:11.564
  • SOMETHING THAT IS EVERIMMORAL OR UNETHICAL, BUT
  • 00:09:11.564 --> 00:09:12.698
  • IMMORAL OR UNETHICAL, BUTWHAT IT DOES MEAN IS WE
  • 00:09:12.698 --> 00:09:14.000
  • WHAT IT DOES MEAN IS WEWANNA KEEP COMMUNICATION
  • 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:15.635
  • WANNA KEEP COMMUNICATIONOPEN BECAUSE THE OBJECTIVE
  • 00:09:15.635 --> 00:09:17.269
  • OPEN BECAUSE THE OBJECTIVEIS TO BUILD A BRIDGE, NOT
  • 00:09:17.269 --> 00:09:19.238
  • IS TO BUILD A BRIDGE, NOTBURN A BRIDGE, AND TO BE A
  • 00:09:19.238 --> 00:09:20.806
  • BURN A BRIDGE, AND TO BE ASTEPPING STONE, NOT A
  • 00:09:20.806 --> 00:09:22.008
  • STEPPING STONE, NOT ASTUMBLING BLOCK BECAUSE
  • 00:09:22.008 --> 00:09:23.409
  • STUMBLING BLOCK BECAUSEHOW CAN A PERSON CHANGE IF
  • 00:09:23.409 --> 00:09:26.178
  • HOW CAN A PERSON CHANGE IFWE DON'T ENGAGE THEM WITH
  • 00:09:26.178 --> 00:09:27.246
  • WE DON'T ENGAGE THEM WITHTHE GOSPEL?
  • 00:09:27.246 --> 00:09:29.248
  • THE GOSPEL?AS YOU CAN SAY, AS YOU
  • 00:09:29.248 --> 00:09:30.082
  • AS YOU CAN SAY, AS YOUKNOW, ERIC, I MEAN, YOUR
  • 00:09:30.082 --> 00:09:30.983
  • KNOW, ERIC, I MEAN, YOURLIFE WAS CHANGED BY
  • 00:09:30.983 --> 00:09:31.917
  • LIFE WAS CHANGED BYCHRIST.
  • 00:09:31.917 --> 00:09:33.119
  • CHRIST.MY LIFE WAS TOO, BUT,
  • 00:09:33.119 --> 00:09:34.487
  • MY LIFE WAS TOO, BUT,FIRST, WE HAVE TO HAVE A
  • 00:09:34.487 --> 00:09:36.155
  • FIRST, WE HAVE TO HAVE ACONVERSATION AND SOME KIND
  • 00:09:36.155 --> 00:09:37.390
  • CONVERSATION AND SOME KINDOF A RELATIONSHIP WITH AN
  • 00:09:37.390 --> 00:09:39.158
  • OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANUNBELIEVER BEFORE THEY CAN
  • 00:09:39.158 --> 00:09:41.127
  • UNBELIEVER BEFORE THEY CANHEAR THE GOSPEL AND COME
  • 00:09:41.127 --> 00:09:42.128
  • HEAR THE GOSPEL AND COMETO KNOW THE LORD.
  • 00:09:42.128 --> 00:09:42.828
  • TO KNOW THE LORD.SO I THINK BILLY WAS A
  • 00:09:42.828 --> 00:09:44.163
  • SO I THINK BILLY WAS AMASTER AT THAT, AND NOT
  • 00:09:44.163 --> 00:09:47.500
  • MASTER AT THAT, AND NOTONLY PUBLICLY AS A
  • 00:09:47.500 --> 00:09:51.170
  • ONLY PUBLICLY AS APREACHER, BUT PRIVATELY AS
  • 00:09:51.170 --> 00:09:53.839
  • PREACHER, BUT PRIVATELY ASA BRIDGE BUILDER.
  • 00:09:53.839 --> 00:09:54.340
  • A BRIDGE BUILDER.- ERIC: IT'S SUCH AN
  • 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:55.808
  • - ERIC: IT'S SUCH ANINTERESTING THING, YOU
  • 00:09:55.808 --> 00:09:56.308
  • INTERESTING THING, YOUKNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OF
  • 00:09:56.308 --> 00:09:57.343
  • KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK OFJESUS BEING A FRIEND OF
  • 00:09:57.343 --> 00:09:58.611
  • JESUS BEING A FRIEND OFSINNERS AND BEING
  • 00:09:58.611 --> 00:10:00.413
  • SINNERS AND BEINGCRITICIZED FOR THAT, BUT,
  • 00:10:00.413 --> 00:10:01.947
  • HE WASN'T FRIENDS WITH
  • 00:10:03.449 --> 00:10:07.453
  • HE WASN'T FRIENDS WITHHEROD OR WITH PILATE.
  • 00:10:07.453 --> 00:10:08.287
  • HEROD OR WITH PILATE.- GREG: NO.
  • 00:10:08.287 --> 00:10:09.055
  • - GREG: NO.- ERIC: IN OTHER WORDS,
  • 00:10:09.055 --> 00:10:10.056
  • - ERIC: IN OTHER WORDS,IT'S SUCH A TRICKY THING,
  • 00:10:10.056 --> 00:10:10.823
  • IT'S SUCH A TRICKY THING,AND THERE'S NO RIGHT
  • 00:10:10.823 --> 00:10:11.490
  • AND THERE'S NO RIGHTANSWER, RIGHT?
  • 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:12.391
  • ANSWER, RIGHT?IN OTHER WORDS, WAS IT
  • 00:10:12.391 --> 00:10:13.492
  • IN OTHER WORDS, WAS ITJESUS OR JOHN THE BAPTIST
  • 00:10:13.492 --> 00:10:15.161
  • JESUS OR JOHN THE BAPTISTWHO SAID-- WHO CALLED
  • 00:10:15.161 --> 00:10:17.196
  • WHO SAID-- WHO CALLEDHEROD "THAT OLD FOX" OR
  • 00:10:17.196 --> 00:10:18.130
  • I CAN NEVER REMEMBER.
  • 00:10:19.298 --> 00:10:19.832
  • I CAN NEVER REMEMBER.- GREG: ACTUALLY, JESUS
  • 00:10:19.832 --> 00:10:20.766
  • - GREG: ACTUALLY, JESUSSAID THAT.
  • 00:10:20.766 --> 00:10:23.002
  • SAID THAT.HEROD DEMANDED TO SEE HIM,
  • 00:10:23.002 --> 00:10:26.072
  • HEROD DEMANDED TO SEE HIM,AND JESUS SAID, "YOU TELL
  • 00:10:26.072 --> 00:10:28.140
  • AND JESUS SAID, "YOU TELLTHAT FOX THAT I'M DOING MY
  • 00:10:28.140 --> 00:10:30.342
  • THAT FOX THAT I'M DOING MYWORK HERE," AND IT'S
  • 00:10:30.342 --> 00:10:31.777
  • WORK HERE," AND IT'SPRETTY INTERESTING THAT
  • 00:10:31.777 --> 00:10:33.446
  • PRETTY INTERESTING THATJESUS USED THAT VERBIAGE
  • 00:10:33.446 --> 00:10:34.680
  • JESUS USED THAT VERBIAGEWITH A MAN OF HEROD'S
  • 00:10:34.680 --> 00:10:35.581
  • WITH A MAN OF HEROD'SPOSITION AND POWER.
  • 00:10:35.581 --> 00:10:37.083
  • POSITION AND POWER.SO, CLEARLY, CHRIST WAS
  • 00:10:37.083 --> 00:10:38.617
  • SO, CLEARLY, CHRIST WASNOT INTIMIDATED BY THAT.
  • 00:10:38.617 --> 00:10:40.786
  • NOT INTIMIDATED BY THAT.BUT ONE LITTLE FOOTNOTE ON
  • 00:10:40.786 --> 00:10:42.188
  • BUT ONE LITTLE FOOTNOTE ONHEROD IS, WHEN HEROD
  • 00:10:42.188 --> 00:10:43.622
  • HEROD IS, WHEN HERODFINALLY DID SEE JESUS--
  • 00:10:43.622 --> 00:10:44.924
  • FINALLY DID SEE JESUS--'CAUSE, YOU REMEMBER,
  • 00:10:44.924 --> 00:10:46.592
  • 'CAUSE, YOU REMEMBER,PONTIUS PILATE WAS TRYING
  • 00:10:46.592 --> 00:10:47.827
  • PONTIUS PILATE WAS TRYINGHIM, AND HE'D-- JESUS WAS,
  • 00:10:47.827 --> 00:10:48.894
  • HIM, AND HE'D-- JESUS WAS,LIKE, A POLITICAL HOT
  • 00:10:48.894 --> 00:10:50.863
  • LIKE, A POLITICAL HOTPOTATO, SO PILATE HANDED
  • 00:10:50.863 --> 00:10:52.231
  • POTATO, SO PILATE HANDEDHIM OFF TO HEROD, AND AS
  • 00:10:52.231 --> 00:10:54.667
  • THE BIBLE SAYS, HEROD WAS
  • 00:10:55.868 --> 00:10:56.936
  • THE BIBLE SAYS, HEROD WASHOPING TO SEE A MIRACLE
  • 00:10:56.936 --> 00:10:58.237
  • HOPING TO SEE A MIRACLEFROM JESUS, AND HE DID NO
  • 00:10:58.237 --> 00:10:59.472
  • FROM JESUS, AND HE DID NOMIRACLE FOR HEROD, AND,
  • 00:10:59.472 --> 00:11:00.639
  • MIRACLE FOR HEROD, AND,IN FACT, HE NEVER SPOKE A
  • 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.708
  • IN FACT, HE NEVER SPOKE ASINGLE WORD TO HEROD, SO
  • 00:11:02.708 --> 00:11:05.077
  • BUT HE HAD QUITE A BIT TO
  • 00:11:06.145 --> 00:11:07.246
  • BUT HE HAD QUITE A BIT TOSAY TO PILATE, AND THEY
  • 00:11:07.246 --> 00:11:09.315
  • SAY TO PILATE, AND THEYHAD A CONVERSATION, AND
  • 00:11:09.315 --> 00:11:10.216
  • HAD A CONVERSATION, ANDTHEY ENGAGED, BUT, OF
  • 00:11:10.216 --> 00:11:11.751
  • THEY ENGAGED, BUT, OFCOURSE, PILATE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:11:11.751 --> 00:11:14.153
  • COURSE, PILATE, YOU KNOW,CONDEMNED CHRIST TO DEATH
  • 00:11:14.153 --> 00:11:14.887
  • BUT JESUS TOOK TIME FOR
  • 00:11:16.021 --> 00:11:16.822
  • BUT JESUS TOOK TIME FORNICODEMUS, WHO WAS A
  • 00:11:16.822 --> 00:11:17.389
  • NICODEMUS, WHO WAS ARELIGIOUS MAN.
  • 00:11:17.389 --> 00:11:19.625
  • RELIGIOUS MAN.I THINK JESUS OPENED
  • 00:11:19.625 --> 00:11:20.960
  • I THINK JESUS OPENEDHIMSELF UP AND REVEALED
  • 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.294
  • HIMSELF UP AND REVEALEDHIMSELF TO THOSE WHO
  • 00:11:22.294 --> 00:11:23.429
  • HIMSELF TO THOSE WHOREALLY WANTED TO KNOW HIM,
  • 00:11:23.429 --> 00:11:24.463
  • REALLY WANTED TO KNOW HIM,AND TO THOSE WHO DID NOT,
  • 00:11:24.463 --> 00:11:26.699
  • AND SO THAT'S WHY HEROD
  • 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.902
  • AND SO THAT'S WHY HERODNEVER HEARD HIS VOICE.
  • 00:11:29.902 --> 00:11:30.436
  • NEVER HEARD HIS VOICE.- ERIC: BUT ISN'T THAT
  • 00:11:30.436 --> 00:11:31.270
  • - ERIC: BUT ISN'T THATAMAZING THOUGH THAT HE DID
  • 00:11:31.270 --> 00:11:33.405
  • HE DIDN'T SAY, "LET ME
  • 00:11:35.007 --> 00:11:35.741
  • HE DIDN'T SAY, "LET MEPRAY FOR YOU.
  • 00:11:35.741 --> 00:11:36.709
  • PRAY FOR YOU.HOW CAN I PRAY FOR YOU?"
  • 00:11:36.709 --> 00:11:37.610
  • HOW CAN I PRAY FOR YOU?"- GREG: YEAH.
  • 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:38.210
  • - GREG: YEAH.- ERIC: HE CALLED HIM
  • 00:11:38.210 --> 00:11:39.411
  • - ERIC: HE CALLED HIMTHAT "OLD FOX," AND THEN,
  • 00:11:39.411 --> 00:11:40.079
  • THAT "OLD FOX," AND THEN,WHEN HE WAS CALLED BEFORE
  • 00:11:40.079 --> 00:11:40.880
  • WHEN HE WAS CALLED BEFOREHIM, HE SAID NOTHING.
  • 00:11:40.880 --> 00:11:41.747
  • HIM, HE SAID NOTHING.SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST
  • 00:11:41.747 --> 00:11:42.915
  • SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUSTTHE COUNTERPOINT THAT,
  • 00:11:42.915 --> 00:11:44.083
  • THE COUNTERPOINT THAT,WOW, WE'RE TALKIN' JESUS.
  • 00:11:44.083 --> 00:11:45.384
  • WOW, WE'RE TALKIN' JESUS.WE'RE NOT TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:11:45.384 --> 00:11:46.285
  • WE'RE NOT TALKIN' ABOUTBILLY GRAHAM.
  • 00:11:46.285 --> 00:11:46.786
  • BILLY GRAHAM.- GREG: YEAH.
  • 00:11:46.786 --> 00:11:48.687
  • - GREG: YEAH.- ERIC: SO THIS IS TOUGH.
  • 00:11:48.687 --> 00:11:50.389
  • AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO
  • 00:11:51.490 --> 00:11:51.857
  • AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TOHAVE A PERSONAL
  • 00:11:51.857 --> 00:11:53.626
  • HAVE A PERSONALRELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,
  • 00:11:53.626 --> 00:11:54.693
  • RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,OTHERWISE, THERE'S JUST NO
  • 00:11:54.693 --> 00:11:57.363
  • BUT YOU HAVE BEEN AN
  • 00:11:58.931 --> 00:11:59.665
  • BUT YOU HAVE BEEN ANEVANGELIST YOUR WHOLE
  • 00:11:59.665 --> 00:12:00.332
  • EVANGELIST YOUR WHOLELIFE.
  • 00:12:00.332 --> 00:12:00.966
  • LIFE.YOU WERE FRIENDS WITH
  • 00:12:00.966 --> 00:12:02.301
  • YOU WERE FRIENDS WITHBILLY GRAHAM.
  • 00:12:02.301 --> 00:12:03.235
  • BILLY GRAHAM.OBVIOUSLY, YOUR BOOK ABOUT
  • 00:12:03.235 --> 00:12:03.702
  • OBVIOUSLY, YOUR BOOK ABOUTHIM IS COMING OUT THIS
  • 00:12:03.702 --> 00:12:04.937
  • YOU WERE THERE, GREG.
  • 00:12:06.906 --> 00:12:07.439
  • YOU WERE THERE, GREG.I WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS.
  • 00:12:07.439 --> 00:12:09.875
  • I WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS.WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST REAL
  • 00:12:09.875 --> 00:12:11.277
  • WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST REALREVIVAL IN AMERICA, THE
  • 00:12:11.277 --> 00:12:13.279
  • REVIVAL IN AMERICA, THEJESUS MOVEMENT IN THE LATE
  • 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:19.151
  • JESUS MOVEMENT IN THE LATE'60s, THE EARLY '70s,
  • 00:12:19.151 --> 00:12:20.119
  • '60s, THE EARLY '70s,THE JESUS PEOPLE, I CAN'T
  • 00:12:20.119 --> 00:12:20.653
  • THE JESUS PEOPLE, I CAN'TIMAGINE WHAT IT MUST'VE
  • 00:12:20.653 --> 00:12:22.388
  • YOU'RE THERE IN
  • 00:12:23.222 --> 00:12:24.256
  • YOU'RE THERE INCALIFORNIA, RIGHT WHERE
  • 00:12:24.256 --> 00:12:26.025
  • CALIFORNIA, RIGHT WHEREALL THOSE PEOPLE WERE
  • 00:12:26.025 --> 00:12:27.426
  • ALL THOSE PEOPLE WEREBAPTIZED IN THE SURF.
  • 00:12:27.426 --> 00:12:27.960
  • BAPTIZED IN THE SURF.YOU'RE LIVING THERE TODAY,
  • 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:29.562
  • YOU'RE LIVING THERE TODAY,AND THE LORD LAUNCHED YOU
  • 00:12:29.562 --> 00:12:31.564
  • AND THE LORD LAUNCHED YOUNOT JUST AS A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:12:31.564 --> 00:12:32.765
  • NOT JUST AS A CHRISTIANBUT AS AN EVANGELIST
  • 00:12:32.765 --> 00:12:34.800
  • BUT AS AN EVANGELISTTHROUGH THAT TIME.
  • 00:12:34.800 --> 00:12:35.334
  • THROUGH THAT TIME.WE'VE JUST GOT 60 SECONDS
  • 00:12:35.334 --> 00:12:37.069
  • WE'VE JUST GOT 60 SECONDSIN THIS SEGMENT, BUT JUST
  • 00:12:37.069 --> 00:12:38.904
  • IN THIS SEGMENT, BUT JUSTTELL US ABOUT THAT TIME
  • 00:12:38.904 --> 00:12:40.039
  • TELL US ABOUT THAT TIMEBECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE
  • 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:41.340
  • BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLENEED TO HAVE HOPE THAT WE
  • 00:12:41.340 --> 00:12:42.608
  • NEED TO HAVE HOPE THAT WECAN SEE THAT IN AMERICA
  • 00:12:42.608 --> 00:12:44.076
  • - GREG: YEAH, WELL, I
  • 00:12:45.611 --> 00:12:46.412
  • - GREG: YEAH, WELL, IDIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS IN
  • 00:12:46.412 --> 00:12:47.479
  • DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS INA REVIVAL BECAUSE I
  • 00:12:47.479 --> 00:12:49.815
  • A REVIVAL BECAUSE IACCEPTED CHRIST AT AGE 17,
  • 00:12:49.815 --> 00:12:51.750
  • SO I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS
  • 00:12:52.985 --> 00:12:53.986
  • SO I JUST THOUGHT THIS WASNORMAL CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:12:53.986 --> 00:12:55.621
  • NORMAL CHRISTIANITY.IN A WAY, IT IS NORMAL
  • 00:12:55.621 --> 00:12:57.356
  • IN A WAY, IT IS NORMALCHRISTIANITY, NORMAL NEW
  • 00:12:57.356 --> 00:12:58.390
  • CHRISTIANITY, NORMAL NEWTESTAMENT CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:12:58.390 --> 00:13:00.226
  • TESTAMENT CHRISTIANITY.I THINK WE'VE SETTLED FOR
  • 00:13:00.226 --> 00:13:02.361
  • I THINK WE'VE SETTLED FORA WATERED-DOWN VERSION, SO
  • 00:13:02.361 --> 00:13:02.828
  • A WATERED-DOWN VERSION, SOI WALKED IN, SMACK-DAB
  • 00:13:02.828 --> 00:13:04.463
  • I WALKED IN, SMACK-DABINTO THE MIDDLE OF A
  • 00:13:04.463 --> 00:13:06.932
  • INTO THE MIDDLE OF AGENUINE SPIRITUAL
  • 00:13:06.932 --> 00:13:07.533
  • GENUINE SPIRITUALAWAKENING, THE LAST GREAT
  • 00:13:07.533 --> 00:13:09.201
  • AND SOME SCHOLARS
  • 00:13:10.502 --> 00:13:11.070
  • AND SOME SCHOLARSBELIEVE MAYBE THE GREATEST
  • 00:13:11.070 --> 00:13:11.537
  • BELIEVE MAYBE THE GREATESTOF ALL AWAKENINGS--
  • 00:13:11.537 --> 00:13:13.505
  • OF ALL AWAKENINGS--I DON'T KNOW,
  • 00:13:13.505 --> 00:13:15.140
  • I DON'T KNOW,BUT IT WAS REAL, AND IT
  • 00:13:15.140 --> 00:13:15.674
  • BUT IT WAS REAL, AND ITCHANGED MY LIFE, AND WE
  • 00:13:15.674 --> 00:13:18.644
  • - ERIC: GREG, I'M SO
  • 00:13:19.612 --> 00:13:20.079
  • - ERIC: GREG, I'M SOEXCITED THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:13:20.079 --> 00:13:21.013
  • EXCITED THAT YOU'VEWRITTEN THIS BOOK ON
  • 00:13:21.013 --> 00:13:21.413
  • WRITTEN THIS BOOK ONBILLY GRAHAM.
  • 00:13:21.413 --> 00:13:21.914
  • BILLY GRAHAM.CONGRATULATIONS.
  • 00:13:21.914 --> 00:13:23.215
  • CONGRATULATIONS.I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU
  • 00:13:23.215 --> 00:13:24.516
  • EVEN THOUGH WE'LL BOTH BE
  • 00:13:26.218 --> 00:13:26.952
  • EVEN THOUGH WE'LL BOTH BEWEARING MASKS--
  • 00:13:26.952 --> 00:13:28.320
  • WEARING MASKS--[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:28.888
  • [LAUGHTER]AND THERE'LL BE PLEXIGLAS
  • 00:13:28.888 --> 00:13:29.255
  • AND THERE'LL BE PLEXIGLASBETWEEN US.
  • 00:13:29.255 --> 00:13:29.788
  • BETWEEN US.GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.
  • 00:13:29.788 --> 00:13:30.789
  • GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND.- GREG: THANK YOU, ERIC.
  • 00:13:30.789 --> 00:13:32.691
  • - GREG: THANK YOU, ERIC.GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
  • 00:13:32.691 --> 00:13:34.002
  • - GREG: THANK YOU, ERIC.GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
  • 00:13:34.002 --> 00:13:35.728
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, I'M
  • 00:13:36.829 --> 00:13:37.329
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, I'MTALKIN' TO RABBI
  • 00:13:37.329 --> 00:13:38.330
  • TALKIN' TO RABBIJONATHAN CAHN.
  • 00:13:38.330 --> 00:13:39.431
  • JONATHAN CAHN.HE'S JUST ACROSS THE RIVER
  • 00:13:39.431 --> 00:13:41.166
  • HE'S JUST ACROSS THE RIVERIN JERSEY.
  • 00:13:41.166 --> 00:13:41.700
  • IN JERSEY.I'M ON THIS SIDE OF THE
  • 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:42.902
  • I'M ON THIS SIDE OF THERIVER.
  • 00:13:42.902 --> 00:13:44.270
  • JONATHAN, IT'S SO
  • 00:13:45.204 --> 00:13:46.472
  • YOUR BOOKS ARE SOME OF THE
  • 00:13:47.606 --> 00:13:48.274
  • YOUR BOOKS ARE SOME OF THEMOST POPULAR BOOKS OUT
  • 00:13:48.274 --> 00:13:49.408
  • MOST POPULAR BOOKS OUTTODAY, STARTING WITH
  • 00:13:49.408 --> 00:13:51.310
  • TODAY, STARTING WITH"THE HARBINGER."
  • 00:13:51.310 --> 00:13:52.344
  • "THE HARBINGER."THE NEW ONE'S
  • 00:13:52.344 --> 00:13:53.379
  • THE NEW ONE'S"THE HARBINGER II."
  • 00:13:53.379 --> 00:13:53.979
  • "THE HARBINGER II."WHAT'S INTERESTING IS PEOPLE
  • 00:13:53.979 --> 00:13:54.380
  • WHAT'S INTERESTING IS PEOPLEALWAYS SAY,
  • 00:13:54.380 --> 00:13:54.780
  • ALWAYS SAY,"GIVE ME HOPE,"
  • 00:13:54.780 --> 00:13:56.081
  • "GIVE ME HOPE,"AND YOU AND I KNOW
  • 00:13:56.081 --> 00:13:58.717
  • AND YOU AND I KNOWTHAT OUR HOPE IS IN THE LORD.
  • 00:13:58.717 --> 00:14:00.719
  • GOD DOESN'T PROMISE US A
  • 00:14:01.854 --> 00:14:02.521
  • GOD DOESN'T PROMISE US AROSE GARDEN.
  • 00:14:02.521 --> 00:14:04.056
  • ROSE GARDEN.SOMETIMES WE GO THROUGH
  • 00:14:04.056 --> 00:14:04.857
  • SOMETIMES WE GO THROUGHTOUGH TIMES.
  • 00:14:04.857 --> 00:14:06.992
  • TOUGH TIMES.WHEN WE THINK OF BELIEVERS
  • 00:14:06.992 --> 00:14:08.627
  • BELIEVERS IN CHINA TODAY,
  • 00:14:11.563 --> 00:14:12.564
  • BELIEVERS IN CHINA TODAY,GOD COMMANDS THEM TO
  • 00:14:12.564 --> 00:14:13.766
  • AND, YET HE ALLOWS THIS
  • 00:14:16.602 --> 00:14:18.837
  • AND, YET HE ALLOWS THISGOVERNMENTAL EVIL TO
  • 00:14:18.837 --> 00:14:20.406
  • GOVERNMENTAL EVIL TOOPPRESS THEM, TO DEPRIVE
  • 00:14:20.406 --> 00:14:21.740
  • OPPRESS THEM, TO DEPRIVETHEM OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
  • 00:14:21.740 --> 00:14:23.275
  • THEM OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE
  • 00:14:23.275 --> 00:14:24.777
  • YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'REON A PRECIPICE IN AMERICA
  • 00:14:24.777 --> 00:14:26.478
  • AS THE CHURCH GOES,
  • 00:14:29.315 --> 00:14:31.483
  • AS THE CHURCH GOES,SO WILL THE NATION GO.
  • 00:14:31.483 --> 00:14:33.752
  • SO WILL THE NATION GO.SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
  • 00:14:33.752 --> 00:14:35.187
  • SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TOPEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TUNING
  • 00:14:35.187 --> 00:14:36.055
  • PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TUNINGIN, AND THEY SAY, "OKAY,
  • 00:14:36.055 --> 00:14:37.690
  • IN, AND THEY SAY, "OKAY,I'M NOT SURE WHAT I THINK.
  • 00:14:37.690 --> 00:14:39.058
  • I'M NOT SURE WHAT I THINK.WHAT'S GOING ON?"
  • 00:14:39.058 --> 00:14:40.192
  • WHAT'S GOING ON?"WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO
  • 00:14:40.192 --> 00:14:41.460
  • - JONATHAN CAHN: TWO
  • 00:14:42.561 --> 00:14:43.295
  • - JONATHAN CAHN: TWOTHINGS: ONE IS A WARNING
  • 00:14:43.295 --> 00:14:44.630
  • THINGS: ONE IS A WARNINGAND THE OTHER IS,
  • 00:14:44.630 --> 00:14:45.230
  • AND THE OTHER IS,AS YOU SAID, HOPE.
  • 00:14:45.230 --> 00:14:46.365
  • AS YOU SAID, HOPE.FOR THOSE WHO DON'T--
  • 00:14:46.365 --> 00:14:47.399
  • FOR THOSE WHO DON'T--WELL, "THE HARBINGER II,"
  • 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:48.367
  • WELL, "THE HARBINGER II,"GIVES A VERY STRONG
  • 00:14:48.367 --> 00:14:49.268
  • GIVES A VERY STRONGWARNING AND A VERY STRONG,
  • 00:14:49.268 --> 00:14:52.638
  • REVELATION OF THE DANGER
  • 00:14:54.073 --> 00:14:54.606
  • REVELATION OF THE DANGERTHAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW
  • 00:14:54.606 --> 00:14:55.274
  • THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOWAND WHERE THINGS ARE
  • 00:14:55.274 --> 00:14:55.841
  • AND WHERE THINGS AREHEADING IN THE CULTURE IN
  • 00:14:55.841 --> 00:14:57.242
  • HEADING IN THE CULTURE INAMERICA.
  • 00:14:57.242 --> 00:14:58.143
  • AMERICA.AT THE SAME TIME, IT
  • 00:14:58.143 --> 00:15:00.879
  • AT THE SAME TIME, ITBRINGS EVERYTHING TO HOPE
  • 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:02.114
  • BRINGS EVERYTHING TO HOPEAND BECAUSE, WITH GOD,
  • 00:15:02.114 --> 00:15:03.749
  • AND BECAUSE, WITH GOD,THERE'S ALSO HOPE.
  • 00:15:03.749 --> 00:15:04.616
  • THERE'S ALSO HOPE.THE WARNING IS THAT, IF WE
  • 00:15:04.616 --> 00:15:06.552
  • THE WARNING IS THAT, IF WEDON'T TURN BACK,
  • 00:15:06.552 --> 00:15:08.053
  • DON'T TURN BACK,WE ARE HEADING FOR--
  • 00:15:08.053 --> 00:15:09.188
  • WE ARE HEADING FOR--I MEAN, WE HAVE A SCENARIO
  • 00:15:09.188 --> 00:15:11.890
  • I MEAN, WE HAVE A SCENARIOOF EITHER CONTINUED SHAKING
  • 00:15:11.890 --> 00:15:13.325
  • OF EITHER CONTINUED SHAKINGAND THE JUDGMENT OF A NATION--
  • 00:15:13.325 --> 00:15:14.593
  • AND THE JUDGMENT OF A NATION--THIS IS THE TEMPLATE OF
  • 00:15:14.593 --> 00:15:17.363
  • THIS IS THE TEMPLATE OFNATIONAL JUDGMENT THAT
  • 00:15:17.363 --> 00:15:18.430
  • THAT I SPOKE ABOUT IN
  • 00:15:19.698 --> 00:15:20.799
  • THAT I SPOKE ABOUT IN"THE HARBINGER," AND IT'S
  • 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:21.400
  • "THE HARBINGER," AND IT'SCONTINUED TO THIS DAY, OR,
  • 00:15:21.400 --> 00:15:23.369
  • CONTINUED TO THIS DAY, OR,ON THE OTHER HAND--
  • 00:15:23.369 --> 00:15:24.903
  • ON THE OTHER HAND--YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHICH
  • 00:15:24.903 --> 00:15:26.372
  • YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHICHIS WORSE-- YOU HAVE AN
  • 00:15:26.372 --> 00:15:27.873
  • IS WORSE-- YOU HAVE ANUNGODLY ADMINISTRATION,
  • 00:15:27.873 --> 00:15:28.774
  • UNGODLY ADMINISTRATION,YOU HAVE AN ANTI-BIBLICAL
  • 00:15:28.774 --> 00:15:29.675
  • YOU HAVE AN ANTI-BIBLICALAGENDA WHERE YOU HAVE
  • 00:15:29.675 --> 00:15:31.010
  • AND YOU HAVE IMMORALITY
  • 00:15:32.678 --> 00:15:33.512
  • AND YOU HAVE IMMORALITYAND PERSECUTION, AND WE'RE
  • 00:15:33.512 --> 00:15:34.713
  • AND PERSECUTION, AND WE'REGONNA BE TESTED.
  • 00:15:34.713 --> 00:15:36.248
  • GONNA BE TESTED.THEN THE THIRD THING IS
  • 00:15:36.248 --> 00:15:37.683
  • THEN THE THIRD THING ISREVIVAL, AND THAT'S THE
  • 00:15:37.683 --> 00:15:41.453
  • "IF MY PEOPLE--"
  • 00:15:43.122 --> 00:15:43.622
  • "IF MY PEOPLE--"ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:15:43.622 --> 00:15:45.057
  • ONE OF THE THINGSTOWARDS THE END OF THE
  • 00:15:45.057 --> 00:15:46.091
  • TOWARDS THE END OF THEBOOK IS THAT IT SPEAKS
  • 00:15:46.091 --> 00:15:47.893
  • BOOK IS THAT IT SPEAKSABOUT THE TIMES THAT
  • 00:15:47.893 --> 00:15:49.561
  • ABOUT THE TIMES THATACTUALLY GOD'S PEOPLE
  • 00:15:49.561 --> 00:15:50.429
  • ACTUALLY GOD'S PEOPLECHANGE THE COURSE OF
  • 00:15:50.429 --> 00:15:51.030
  • CHANGE THE COURSE OFAMERICA THROUGH THAT
  • 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:51.930
  • AMERICA THROUGH THATSCRIPTURE, "IF MY PEOPLE--"
  • 00:15:51.930 --> 00:15:52.531
  • SCRIPTURE, "IF MY PEOPLE--"MORE THAN ONCE,
  • 00:15:52.531 --> 00:15:53.298
  • MORE THAN ONCE,I MEAN, DETERMINED WORLD
  • 00:15:53.298 --> 00:15:54.466
  • SO YOU HAVE ALL THOSE
  • 00:15:55.868 --> 00:15:56.869
  • SO YOU HAVE ALL THOSETHINGS.
  • 00:15:56.869 --> 00:15:57.403
  • THINGS.I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK
  • 00:15:57.403 --> 00:15:58.370
  • I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKAT THAT, WHERE IT'S GOING,
  • 00:15:58.370 --> 00:15:58.837
  • AT THAT, WHERE IT'S GOING,IT COULD ALSO BE ALL
  • 00:15:58.837 --> 00:16:00.606
  • IT COULD ALSO BE ALLTHREE, YOU KNOW, AT ONCE.
  • 00:16:00.606 --> 00:16:02.141
  • THREE, YOU KNOW, AT ONCE.YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE
  • 00:16:02.141 --> 00:16:03.809
  • YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVETHE CONTINUED SHAKING OF
  • 00:16:03.809 --> 00:16:04.610
  • THE CONTINUED SHAKING OFAMERICA TOWARDS JUDGMENT
  • 00:16:04.610 --> 00:16:06.945
  • AMERICA TOWARDS JUDGMENTBECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
  • 00:16:06.945 --> 00:16:08.781
  • BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVECERTAINLY INVOKED IT.
  • 00:16:08.781 --> 00:16:10.015
  • CERTAINLY INVOKED IT.ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU
  • 00:16:10.015 --> 00:16:11.283
  • ON THE OTHER HAND, YOUALSO CAN HAVE A
  • 00:16:11.283 --> 00:16:13.218
  • ALSO CAN HAVE APERSECUTION IN THE MIDST
  • 00:16:13.218 --> 00:16:13.786
  • PERSECUTION IN THE MIDSTOF IT, AND WE GOTTA BE
  • 00:16:13.786 --> 00:16:14.820
  • OF IT, AND WE GOTTA BEREADY FOR THAT.
  • 00:16:14.820 --> 00:16:15.587
  • -- YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, WHO
  • 00:16:16.889 --> 00:16:17.656
  • -- YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, WHOREALLY MINISTERED WHAT
  • 00:16:17.656 --> 00:16:19.625
  • REALLY MINISTERED WHATHAPPENED WHEN BELIEVERS
  • 00:16:19.625 --> 00:16:22.895
  • HAPPENED WHEN BELIEVERSWERE UNDER UNGODLY REIGN
  • 00:16:22.895 --> 00:16:23.796
  • WERE UNDER UNGODLY REIGNOF THE THIRD REICH, AND
  • 00:16:23.796 --> 00:16:25.030
  • OF THE THIRD REICH, ANDTHEN, OF COURSE, THE
  • 00:16:25.030 --> 00:16:25.531
  • THEN, OF COURSE, THECOMMUNIST REIGN, AND YOU
  • 00:16:25.531 --> 00:16:26.632
  • COMMUNIST REIGN, AND YOUHEAR THE STORIES.
  • 00:16:26.632 --> 00:16:28.467
  • HEAR THE STORIES.WELL, LISTEN, WE CAN'T SAY
  • 00:16:28.467 --> 00:16:30.269
  • WELL, LISTEN, WE CAN'T SAYWE CAN AVOID THAT EITHER.
  • 00:16:30.269 --> 00:16:31.603
  • WE CAN AVOID THAT EITHER.THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING
  • 00:16:31.603 --> 00:16:32.237
  • THAT IS ALSO SOMETHINGTHAT CAN HAPPEN AS WELL,
  • 00:16:32.237 --> 00:16:32.771
  • THAT CAN HAPPEN AS WELL,SO WE GOTTA BE PREPARED
  • 00:16:32.771 --> 00:16:33.605
  • AT THE SAME TIME, THAT
  • 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:35.607
  • AT THE SAME TIME, THATDOESN'T STOP THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:16:35.607 --> 00:16:36.875
  • DOESN'T STOP THE GOSPEL.YOU KNOW, THE DARKNESS
  • 00:16:36.875 --> 00:16:38.077
  • YOU KNOW, THE DARKNESSDOES NOT STOP THE LIGHT.
  • 00:16:38.077 --> 00:16:39.144
  • DOES NOT STOP THE LIGHT.IT ONLY PROVIDES THE
  • 00:16:39.144 --> 00:16:41.313
  • IT ONLY PROVIDES THECONTRAST.
  • 00:16:41.313 --> 00:16:43.982
  • CONTRAST.SO, IF IT GETS DARKER,
  • 00:16:43.982 --> 00:16:44.483
  • SO, IF IT GETS DARKER,IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET
  • 00:16:44.483 --> 00:16:45.150
  • IT'S TIME FOR US TO GETBRIGHTER.
  • 00:16:45.150 --> 00:16:46.018
  • BRIGHTER.- ERIC: YOU TALK ABOUT
  • 00:16:46.018 --> 00:16:48.120
  • BETWEEN 2001 AND IN 2020,
  • 00:16:51.356 --> 00:16:52.224
  • BETWEEN 2001 AND IN 2020,AND THAT THERE WAS A YEAR
  • 00:16:52.224 --> 00:16:52.724
  • AND THAT THERE WAS A YEAROF SHAKING.
  • 00:16:52.724 --> 00:16:55.594
  • OF SHAKING.THE YEAR AHEAD, 2021,
  • 00:16:55.594 --> 00:16:58.097
  • THE YEAR AHEAD, 2021,YOU'RE SAYING THAT,
  • 00:16:58.097 --> 00:17:00.899
  • YOU'RE SAYING THAT,IF GOD DOES A MIRACLE--
  • 00:17:00.899 --> 00:17:02.801
  • ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
  • 00:17:04.436 --> 00:17:05.304
  • ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.WE CAN HAVE AMAZING
  • 00:17:05.304 --> 00:17:06.038
  • WE CAN HAVE AMAZINGREVIVAL, AND GOD CAN PART
  • 00:17:06.038 --> 00:17:07.306
  • REVIVAL, AND GOD CAN PARTTHE RED SEA BECAUSE--
  • 00:17:07.306 --> 00:17:07.973
  • THE RED SEA BECAUSE--GUESS WHAT?
  • 00:17:07.973 --> 00:17:10.342
  • GUESS WHAT?-- HE'S DONE IT BEFORE.
  • 00:17:10.342 --> 00:17:11.643
  • -- HE'S DONE IT BEFORE.SO MY QUESTION IS,
  • 00:17:11.643 --> 00:17:13.078
  • SO MY QUESTION IS,DO YOU HAVE A SENSE--
  • 00:17:13.078 --> 00:17:14.446
  • DO YOU HAVE A SENSE--'CAUSE I HAVE HAD A
  • 00:17:14.446 --> 00:17:15.881
  • 'CAUSE I HAVE HAD ASENSE THAT THE REMNANT--
  • 00:17:15.881 --> 00:17:16.815
  • - ERIC: -- THAT THERE
  • 00:17:17.850 --> 00:17:18.784
  • - ERIC: -- THAT THEREHAVE BEEN PEOPLE CRYING
  • 00:17:18.784 --> 00:17:19.918
  • HAVE BEEN PEOPLE CRYINGOUT TO GOD IN A WAY THAT I
  • 00:17:19.918 --> 00:17:21.653
  • OUT TO GOD IN A WAY THAT IHAVE NOT SEEN-- AND I'VE
  • 00:17:21.653 --> 00:17:22.788
  • HAVE NOT SEEN-- AND I'VESEEN UNITY IN THE BODY,
  • 00:17:22.788 --> 00:17:23.355
  • SEEN UNITY IN THE BODY,PEOPLE OF ALL STRIPES
  • 00:17:23.355 --> 00:17:24.356
  • PEOPLE OF ALL STRIPESCOMING TOGETHER ON PRAYER
  • 00:17:24.356 --> 00:17:25.390
  • COMING TOGETHER ON PRAYERCALLS.
  • 00:17:25.390 --> 00:17:27.025
  • CALLS.IT'S BEEN EXTRAORDINARY TO
  • 00:17:27.025 --> 00:17:29.128
  • IT'S BEEN EXTRAORDINARY TOME, SO THAT'S WHAT GIVES
  • 00:17:29.128 --> 00:17:30.129
  • ME, SO THAT'S WHAT GIVESME HOPE THAT GOD SEES AND
  • 00:17:30.129 --> 00:17:31.730
  • ME HOPE THAT GOD SEES ANDHEARS THE CRY OF HIS
  • 00:17:31.730 --> 00:17:33.565
  • - JONATHAN: YEAH, I AGREE
  • 00:17:34.666 --> 00:17:35.434
  • - JONATHAN: YEAH, I AGREETHERE HAS BEEN-- I'VE SEEN
  • 00:17:35.434 --> 00:17:35.934
  • THERE HAS BEEN-- I'VE SEENTHAT TOO.
  • 00:17:35.934 --> 00:17:36.835
  • THAT TOO.THERE'S ALWAYS PRAYER, BUT
  • 00:17:36.835 --> 00:17:38.270
  • THERE'S ALWAYS PRAYER, BUTI'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, A
  • 00:17:38.270 --> 00:17:39.705
  • I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, AKIND OF WELLING UP OF
  • 00:17:39.705 --> 00:17:40.706
  • KIND OF WELLING UP OFPRAYER, ESPECIALLY HEADING
  • 00:17:40.706 --> 00:17:41.707
  • PRAYER, ESPECIALLY HEADINGINTO THIS YEAR, SO, YEAH,
  • 00:17:41.707 --> 00:17:43.408
  • I THINK THAT A FEW
  • 00:17:46.044 --> 00:17:46.645
  • I THINK THAT A FEWTHINGS-- ONE IS THAT, YOU
  • 00:17:46.645 --> 00:17:48.080
  • THINGS-- ONE IS THAT, YOUKNOW, WE PRAY FOR A
  • 00:17:48.080 --> 00:17:48.614
  • KNOW, WE PRAY FOR AREVIVAL.
  • 00:17:48.614 --> 00:17:52.084
  • REVIVAL.REVIVAL CAN
  • 00:17:52.084 --> 00:17:52.651
  • REVIVAL CANCOME, QUOTE,
  • 00:17:52.651 --> 00:17:53.952
  • THE POLITICAL REALM DOES
  • 00:17:55.254 --> 00:17:56.355
  • THE POLITICAL REALM DOESNOT STOP REVIVAL.
  • 00:17:56.355 --> 00:17:58.357
  • IT ONLY MAKES IT EASIER OR
  • 00:18:00.159 --> 00:18:01.426
  • IT ONLY MAKES IT EASIER ORHARDER FOR REVIVAL.
  • 00:18:01.426 --> 00:18:05.063
  • HARDER FOR REVIVAL.SO MY SENSE RIGHT NOW IS
  • 00:18:05.063 --> 00:18:06.031
  • SO MY SENSE RIGHT NOW ISTHAT, WITHOUT A MIRACLE,
  • 00:18:06.031 --> 00:18:08.000
  • THAT, WITHOUT A MIRACLE,WITHOUT RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT
  • 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:09.268
  • WITHOUT RIGHT NOW, WITHOUTTHAT, THAT WHERE THINGS
  • 00:18:09.268 --> 00:18:11.770
  • THAT, THAT WHERE THINGSARE GOING IS THAT, IF IT'S
  • 00:18:11.770 --> 00:18:13.472
  • IT'S GONNA COME HARD,
  • 00:18:14.706 --> 00:18:15.841
  • IT'S GONNA COME HARD,AND THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:18:15.841 --> 00:18:18.377
  • AND THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW--AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHIN'
  • 00:18:18.377 --> 00:18:19.611
  • AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHIN'TO FEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:18:19.611 --> 00:18:20.379
  • TO FEAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
  • 00:18:20.379 --> 00:18:21.413
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEAPOSTLES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:18:21.413 --> 00:18:22.481
  • APOSTLES, WHEN YOU LOOK ATTHE PROPHETS, MOST OF THEM
  • 00:18:22.481 --> 00:18:23.815
  • THE PROPHETS, MOST OF THEMWERE LIVING IN A SITUATION
  • 00:18:23.815 --> 00:18:26.585
  • WERE LIVING IN A SITUATIONVERY MUCH THAT WE'RE IN, A
  • 00:18:26.585 --> 00:18:27.152
  • VERY MUCH THAT WE'RE IN, ACULTURE THAT HAD ONCE
  • 00:18:27.152 --> 00:18:28.053
  • CULTURE THAT HAD ONCEKNOWN GOD, THAT HAD BEEN--
  • 00:18:28.053 --> 00:18:28.921
  • KNOWN GOD, THAT HAD BEEN--IT WAS NOW RACING AWAY,
  • 00:18:28.921 --> 00:18:29.922
  • IT WAS NOW RACING AWAY,WARRING AGAINST GOD,
  • 00:18:29.922 --> 00:18:30.923
  • WARRING AGAINST GOD,WARRING AGAINST THEM.
  • 00:18:30.923 --> 00:18:32.724
  • WARRING AGAINST THEM.THAT DIDN'T STOP THEIR
  • 00:18:32.724 --> 00:18:33.425
  • THAT DIDN'T STOP THEIRLIGHT, AND THAT DIDN'T
  • 00:18:33.425 --> 00:18:34.560
  • LIGHT, AND THAT DIDN'TSTOP THE POTENTIAL FOR
  • 00:18:34.560 --> 00:18:35.761
  • STOP THE POTENTIAL FORREVIVAL.
  • 00:18:35.761 --> 00:18:36.261
  • REVIVAL.IT DIDN'T STOP--
  • 00:18:36.261 --> 00:18:37.596
  • IT DIDN'T STOP--EVEN PERSECUTION DOESN'T STOP
  • 00:18:37.596 --> 00:18:38.864
  • EVEN PERSECUTION DOESN'T STOPTHE POTENTIAL FOR REVIVAL
  • 00:18:38.864 --> 00:18:40.365
  • THE POTENTIAL FOR REVIVALEITHER, BUT THIS IS THE
  • 00:18:40.365 --> 00:18:42.501
  • EITHER, BUT THIS IS THETIME WHEN MANY OF US,
  • 00:18:42.501 --> 00:18:43.435
  • TIME WHEN MANY OF US,MANY BELIEVERS ARE ALWAYS
  • 00:18:43.435 --> 00:18:45.270
  • MANY BELIEVERS ARE ALWAYSPRAYING, "LORD, I WISH I
  • 00:18:45.270 --> 00:18:46.838
  • CONGRATULATIONS.
  • 00:18:48.840 --> 00:18:49.608
  • CONGRATULATIONS.YOU'RE IN IT.
  • 00:18:49.608 --> 00:18:50.509
  • YOU'RE IN IT.THIS IS IT.
  • 00:18:50.509 --> 00:18:52.644
  • THIS IS IT.AND SO I SEE, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:18:52.644 --> 00:18:53.946
  • AND SO I SEE, RIGHT NOW,IN THE WAY THAT-- NO, THIS
  • 00:18:53.946 --> 00:18:55.214
  • IN THE WAY THAT-- NO, THISIS NOT A PROPHECY UP HERE,
  • 00:18:55.214 --> 00:18:56.682
  • IS NOT A PROPHECY UP HERE,BUT THE WAY I'M LOOKING IN
  • 00:18:56.682 --> 00:18:57.616
  • BUT THE WAY I'M LOOKING INTHE TEMPLATE IS THAT,
  • 00:18:57.616 --> 00:18:58.884
  • THE TEMPLATE IS THAT,RIGHT NOW, AMERICA WITHOUT
  • 00:18:58.884 --> 00:18:59.952
  • RIGHT NOW, AMERICA WITHOUTREVIVAL IS HEADING
  • 00:18:59.952 --> 00:19:01.887
  • REVIVAL IS HEADINGMASSIVELY AWAY FROM GOD
  • 00:19:01.887 --> 00:19:04.022
  • MASSIVELY AWAY FROM GODCULTURALLY AND IT COULD
  • 00:19:04.022 --> 00:19:04.656
  • CULTURALLY AND IT COULDNOW COALESCE WITH THE
  • 00:19:04.656 --> 00:19:06.525
  • THAT'S A DANGEROUS THING
  • 00:19:07.626 --> 00:19:08.460
  • THAT'S A DANGEROUS THINGFOR BELIEVERS, BUT IT DOES
  • 00:19:08.460 --> 00:19:10.162
  • FOR BELIEVERS, BUT IT DOESNOT STOP US LIVING FOR
  • 00:19:10.162 --> 00:19:11.029
  • NOT STOP US LIVING FORGOD, THE POINT IS THERE
  • 00:19:11.029 --> 00:19:12.464
  • GOD, THE POINT IS THEREMIGHT BE A PRICE, AND WE
  • 00:19:12.464 --> 00:19:13.532
  • MIGHT BE A PRICE, AND WEHAVE TO STAND, AND IT MAY
  • 00:19:13.532 --> 00:19:14.733
  • HAVE TO STAND, AND IT MAYCOST US TO STAND, BUT AS
  • 00:19:14.733 --> 00:19:17.903
  • PROBABLY SINCE CHILDREN--
  • 00:19:19.504 --> 00:19:21.273
  • PROBABLY SINCE CHILDREN--AND IT'S PROFOUND STILL
  • 00:19:21.273 --> 00:19:22.674
  • AND IT'S PROFOUND STILLTHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CANDLE
  • 00:19:22.674 --> 00:19:24.576
  • THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CANDLEIN THE DAYTIME, YOU COULD
  • 00:19:24.576 --> 00:19:25.844
  • IN THE DAYTIME, YOU COULDBARELY SEE IT, BUT THE
  • 00:19:25.844 --> 00:19:26.845
  • BARELY SEE IT, BUT THECANDLE AT NIGHT LIGHTS UP
  • 00:19:26.845 --> 00:19:27.980
  • CANDLE AT NIGHT LIGHTS UPTHE WORLD, AND SO WE ARE--
  • 00:19:27.980 --> 00:19:29.314
  • THE WORLD, AND SO WE ARE--I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE
  • 00:19:29.314 --> 00:19:30.048
  • I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BECALLED TO BE THAT CANDLE
  • 00:19:30.048 --> 00:19:31.650
  • CALLED TO BE THAT CANDLEIN THE NIGHT, AND THAT
  • 00:19:31.650 --> 00:19:33.385
  • IN THE NIGHT, AND THATMEANS THAT, THOUGH IT MAY
  • 00:19:33.385 --> 00:19:34.486
  • MEANS THAT, THOUGH IT MAYBE HARDER, WE CAN IMPACT
  • 00:19:34.486 --> 00:19:36.388
  • BE HARDER, WE CAN IMPACTTHIS WORLD, AS YOU SAID,
  • 00:19:36.388 --> 00:19:37.823
  • THIS WORLD, AS YOU SAID,"THE REMNANT."
  • 00:19:37.823 --> 00:19:39.324
  • "THE REMNANT."SO I ALWAYS HAVE HOPE IN
  • 00:19:39.324 --> 00:19:40.826
  • SO I ALWAYS HAVE HOPE INGOD NO MATTER WHAT
  • 00:19:40.826 --> 00:19:41.860
  • GOD NO MATTER WHATHAPPENS WITH MAN.
  • 00:19:41.860 --> 00:19:42.561
  • HAPPENS WITH MAN.- ERIC: YOU KNOW, WHEN
  • 00:19:42.561 --> 00:19:43.528
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW, WHENYOU SEE GOD MOVE,
  • 00:19:43.528 --> 00:19:45.364
  • YOU SEE GOD MOVE,WHEN YOU SEE JUST THE
  • 00:19:45.364 --> 00:19:46.598
  • WHEN YOU SEE JUST THEMIRACLES THAT I'VE
  • 00:19:46.598 --> 00:19:48.767
  • I HAVEN'T WRITTEN ABOUT
  • 00:19:50.302 --> 00:19:51.069
  • I HAVEN'T WRITTEN ABOUTMOST OF THEM, BUT, YOU
  • 00:19:51.069 --> 00:19:51.837
  • MOST OF THEM, BUT, YOUKNOW, PEOPLE OFTEN ASK ME,
  • 00:19:51.837 --> 00:19:52.871
  • KNOW, PEOPLE OFTEN ASK ME,"WELL, WHY DO YOU HAVE
  • 00:19:52.871 --> 00:19:53.438
  • "WELL, WHY DO YOU HAVEFAITH?"
  • 00:19:53.438 --> 00:19:54.306
  • FAITH?"AND I THINK YOU GET TO A
  • 00:19:54.306 --> 00:19:55.941
  • AND I THINK YOU GET TO APOINT WHERE GOD BECOMES SO
  • 00:19:55.941 --> 00:19:59.378
  • POINT WHERE GOD BECOMES SOREAL TO YOU THAT IT WOULD
  • 00:19:59.378 --> 00:20:00.512
  • REAL TO YOU THAT IT WOULDBE IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY HIM
  • 00:20:00.512 --> 00:20:01.480
  • BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY HIMBECAUSE YOU SAY,
  • 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:02.581
  • BECAUSE YOU SAY,"I'VE SEEN TOO MUCH.
  • 00:20:02.581 --> 00:20:03.882
  • "I'VE SEEN TOO MUCH.I KNOW HIM.
  • 00:20:03.882 --> 00:20:05.917
  • I KNOW HIM.I'VE SEEN HIM MOVE.
  • 00:20:05.917 --> 00:20:06.785
  • I'VE SEEN HIM MOVE.I'VE SEEN HIM ANSWER
  • 00:20:06.785 --> 00:20:07.986
  • I'VE SEEN HIM ANSWERPRAYERS.
  • 00:20:07.986 --> 00:20:09.688
  • PRAYERS.I'VE SEEN JUST ENOUGH THAT
  • 00:20:09.688 --> 00:20:10.789
  • I'VE SEEN JUST ENOUGH THATYOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
  • 00:20:10.789 --> 00:20:11.623
  • YOU CAN HAVE ALL THEQUESTIONS IN THE WORLD AND
  • 00:20:11.623 --> 00:20:14.026
  • QUESTIONS IN THE WORLD ANDALL THE OBJECTIONS AND ALL
  • 00:20:14.026 --> 00:20:15.494
  • ALL THE OBJECTIONS AND ALLTHE ANGER ABOUT HOW GOD
  • 00:20:15.494 --> 00:20:18.363
  • THE ANGER ABOUT HOW GODHAS SEEMED TO HAVE FAILED
  • 00:20:18.363 --> 00:20:20.999
  • HAS SEEMED TO HAVE FAILEDYOU OR HE'S ALLOWED EVIL,
  • 00:20:20.999 --> 00:20:23.902
  • YOU OR HE'S ALLOWED EVIL,AND I SAY THAT CAN ALL BE
  • 00:20:23.902 --> 00:20:25.337
  • AND I SAY THAT CAN ALL BELEGITIMATE, BUT I'M
  • 00:20:25.337 --> 00:20:26.271
  • LEGITIMATE, BUT I'MTELLING YOU, I'VE SEEN TOO
  • 00:20:26.271 --> 00:20:27.939
  • TELLING YOU, I'VE SEEN TOOMUCH PERSONALLY TO DOUBT
  • 00:20:27.939 --> 00:20:29.975
  • MUCH PERSONALLY TO DOUBTTHAT HE IS REAL, THAT HE
  • 00:20:29.975 --> 00:20:31.443
  • THAT HE IS REAL, THAT HELOVES ME, THAT HE DIED FOR
  • 00:20:31.443 --> 00:20:32.678
  • LOVES ME, THAT HE DIED FORME, THAT HE WALKS WITH ME
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  • ME, THAT HE WALKS WITH MEALWAYS, AND THAT HE KEEPS
  • 00:20:35.580 --> 00:20:38.850
  • ALWAYS, AND THAT HE KEEPSWHISPERING TO ME THAT
  • 00:20:38.850 --> 00:20:40.118
  • WHISPERING TO ME THAT'I WANT YOU TO
  • 00:20:40.118 --> 00:20:41.219
  • 'I WANT YOU TOREJOICE IN ME.
  • 00:20:41.219 --> 00:20:42.621
  • REJOICE IN ME.I WANT YOUR SECRET JOY TO
  • 00:20:42.621 --> 00:20:44.256
  • I WANT YOUR SECRET JOY TOBE IN ME, NOT IN
  • 00:20:44.256 --> 00:20:45.724
  • BE IN ME, NOT INCIRCUMSTANCES SO THAT,
  • 00:20:45.724 --> 00:20:47.659
  • CIRCUMSTANCES SO THAT,NO MATTER WHAT YOU GO
  • 00:20:47.659 --> 00:20:48.560
  • NO MATTER WHAT YOU GOTHROUGH, WHEN THINGS ARE
  • 00:20:48.560 --> 00:20:49.361
  • THROUGH, WHEN THINGS AREWONDERFUL, WHEN THINGS
  • 00:20:49.361 --> 00:20:51.997
  • WONDERFUL, WHEN THINGSARE TOUGH, THAT YOUR JOY
  • 00:20:51.997 --> 00:20:52.864
  • ARE TOUGH, THAT YOUR JOYIS IN ME AND THAT YOUR JOY
  • 00:20:52.864 --> 00:20:53.298
  • IS IN ME AND THAT YOUR JOYIS UNSHAKABLE.'"
  • 00:20:53.298 --> 00:20:54.533
  • IS UNSHAKABLE.'"THAT'S THE KIND OF
  • 00:20:54.533 --> 00:20:56.668
  • THAT'S THE KIND OFA CHURCH THAT GOD WANTS,
  • 00:20:56.668 --> 00:20:58.337
  • A CHURCH THAT GOD WANTS,THAT WE'RE LOOKING
  • 00:20:58.337 --> 00:20:59.271
  • THAT WE'RE LOOKINGTO HIM IN THE MIDST
  • 00:20:59.271 --> 00:21:00.238
  • TO HIM IN THE MIDSTOF DIFFICULTY.
  • 00:21:00.238 --> 00:21:01.340
  • OF DIFFICULTY.WE DON'T SHRINK FROM
  • 00:21:01.340 --> 00:21:02.140
  • WE DON'T SHRINK FROMDIFFICULTY, AND WE DON'T
  • 00:21:02.140 --> 00:21:03.008
  • DIFFICULTY, AND WE DON'THAVE FEAR.
  • 00:21:03.008 --> 00:21:05.077
  • HAVE FEAR.AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE
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  • AND I REALLY DO BELIEVETHAT THE LORD LOVES US
  • 00:21:06.311 --> 00:21:07.679
  • THAT THE LORD LOVES USENOUGH-- THERE'S THE GOOD
  • 00:21:07.679 --> 00:21:08.313
  • ENOUGH-- THERE'S THE GOODNEWS AND THE BAD NEWS-- HE
  • 00:21:08.313 --> 00:21:09.481
  • NEWS AND THE BAD NEWS-- HELOVES US ENOUGH THAT HE'S
  • 00:21:09.481 --> 00:21:10.716
  • LOVES US ENOUGH THAT HE'SWILLING TO SHAKE US UNTIL
  • 00:21:10.716 --> 00:21:12.217
  • WILLING TO SHAKE US UNTILWE SEE THAT BECAUSE
  • 00:21:12.217 --> 00:21:14.286
  • WE SEE THAT BECAUSEHE SAYS,
  • 00:21:14.286 --> 00:21:15.587
  • HE SAYS,"YOU CAN'T MISS THIS.
  • 00:21:15.587 --> 00:21:16.521
  • "YOU CAN'T MISS THIS.YOU CANNOT MISS THAT YOUR
  • 00:21:16.521 --> 00:21:18.223
  • YOU CANNOT MISS THAT YOURHOPE IS IN ME.
  • 00:21:18.223 --> 00:21:19.725
  • HOPE IS IN ME.YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY LOOK
  • 00:21:19.725 --> 00:21:21.860
  • YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY LOOKAT ME AND LET ME LOVE YOU
  • 00:21:21.860 --> 00:21:23.161
  • AT ME AND LET ME LOVE YOUIN THE MIDST OF WHATEVER
  • 00:21:23.161 --> 00:21:23.962
  • IN THE MIDST OF WHATEVERYOU'RE WALKING THROUGH--
  • 00:21:23.962 --> 00:21:24.896
  • YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH--FAMILY DIFFICULTIES,
  • 00:21:24.896 --> 00:21:27.532
  • FAMILY DIFFICULTIES,MARITAL DIFFICULTIES,
  • 00:21:27.532 --> 00:21:28.667
  • MARITAL DIFFICULTIES,HEALTH DIFFICULTIES--
  • 00:21:28.667 --> 00:21:29.601
  • HEALTH DIFFICULTIES--LOOK TO ME.
  • 00:21:29.601 --> 00:21:31.002
  • LOOK TO ME.THAT'S NOT A FAIRY TALE.
  • 00:21:31.002 --> 00:21:33.638
  • THAT'S NOT A FAIRY TALE.THAT'S FOR YOU."
  • 00:21:33.638 --> 00:21:34.639
  • THAT'S FOR YOU."AND SOME PEOPLE SAY,
  • 00:21:34.639 --> 00:21:35.140
  • AND SOME PEOPLE SAY,"WELL, THAT'S
  • 00:21:35.140 --> 00:21:35.674
  • "WELL, THAT'SFOR OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:21:35.674 --> 00:21:36.508
  • FOR OTHER PEOPLE.THAT'S FOR JONATHAN CAHN
  • 00:21:36.508 --> 00:21:37.109
  • THAT'S FOR JONATHAN CAHNAND ERIC METAXAS.
  • 00:21:37.109 --> 00:21:37.843
  • AND ERIC METAXAS.I DON'T KNOW; I DON'T KNOW."
  • 00:21:37.843 --> 00:21:38.777
  • I DON'T KNOW; I DON'T KNOW."AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW
  • 00:21:38.777 --> 00:21:39.578
  • AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOWYOU KNOW THAT THE
  • 00:21:39.578 --> 00:21:41.346
  • YOU KNOW THAT THELORD HAS THAT FOR EVERYBODY.
  • 00:21:41.346 --> 00:21:43.148
  • LORD HAS THAT FOR EVERYBODY.- JONATHAN: YEAH, YEAH,
  • 00:21:43.148 --> 00:21:44.649
  • - JONATHAN: YEAH, YEAH,NO, LISTEN, MOST PEOPLE
  • 00:21:44.649 --> 00:21:45.817
  • NO, LISTEN, MOST PEOPLEDON'T COME TO THE LORD
  • 00:21:45.817 --> 00:21:46.885
  • DON'T COME TO THE LORDUNLESS THERE ARE TIMES
  • 00:21:46.885 --> 00:21:48.920
  • YOU KNOW, SHAKING.
  • 00:21:49.921 --> 00:21:50.455
  • YOU KNOW, SHAKING.I ONLY CAME TO THE LORD--
  • 00:21:50.455 --> 00:21:52.157
  • I ONLY CAME TO THE LORD--BEING JEWISH, I ONLY CAME
  • 00:21:52.157 --> 00:21:53.592
  • BEING JEWISH, I ONLY CAMETO THE LORD WHEN I WAS HIT
  • 00:21:53.592 --> 00:21:54.760
  • TO THE LORD WHEN I WAS HITBY A LOCOMOTIVE TRAIN, AND
  • 00:21:54.760 --> 00:21:55.894
  • BY A LOCOMOTIVE TRAIN, ANDWITHOUT THAT TRAIN,
  • 00:21:55.894 --> 00:21:56.428
  • WITHOUT THAT TRAIN,I DON'T THINK I WOULD'VE
  • 00:21:56.428 --> 00:21:57.462
  • I DON'T THINK I WOULD'VEBEEN SAVED.
  • 00:21:57.462 --> 00:21:58.397
  • BEEN SAVED.SO I HAVE TO THANK GOD FOR
  • 00:21:58.397 --> 00:21:59.398
  • SO I HAVE TO THANK GOD FORTHAT, AND THE THING IS SO
  • 00:21:59.398 --> 00:22:00.399
  • THAT, AND THE THING IS SOWITH PEOPLE, SO WITH
  • 00:22:00.399 --> 00:22:01.166
  • WITH PEOPLE, SO WITHNATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT,
  • 00:22:01.166 --> 00:22:02.868
  • NATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT,NUMBER ONE, MOST OF US
  • 00:22:02.868 --> 00:22:04.436
  • NUMBER ONE, MOST OF USCOME TO THE LORD, AND EVEN
  • 00:22:04.436 --> 00:22:06.071
  • COME TO THE LORD, AND EVENNATIONS TURN TO THE LORD
  • 00:22:06.071 --> 00:22:07.172
  • NATIONS TURN TO THE LORDWITH SHAKINGS.
  • 00:22:07.172 --> 00:22:07.672
  • WITH SHAKINGS.AND, AT THE SAME TIME,
  • 00:22:07.672 --> 00:22:08.673
  • AND, AT THE SAME TIME,IT ALSO DRAWS US CLOSER,
  • 00:22:08.673 --> 00:22:10.175
  • IT ALSO DRAWS US CLOSER,AND WE HAVE THE HIGH HONOR OF
  • 00:22:10.175 --> 00:22:12.144
  • AND WE HAVE THE HIGH HONOR OFSTANDING WITH OUR GOD.
  • 00:22:12.144 --> 00:22:13.078
  • IT'S ONE THING TO STAND
  • 00:22:14.446 --> 00:22:16.014
  • IT'S ONE THING TO STANDWITH JESUS WHEN EVERYBODY
  • 00:22:16.014 --> 00:22:16.882
  • WITH JESUS WHEN EVERYBODYIS STANDING WITH JESUS.
  • 00:22:16.882 --> 00:22:17.949
  • IS STANDING WITH JESUS.IT'S ANOTHER THING WHEN
  • 00:22:17.949 --> 00:22:19.017
  • IT'S ANOTHER THING WHENMOST PEOPLE ARE NOT, AND
  • 00:22:19.017 --> 00:22:20.252
  • MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT, ANDTHEY'RE ACTUALLY PUNISHING
  • 00:22:20.252 --> 00:22:20.886
  • THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUNISHINGYOU FOR DOING THAT.
  • 00:22:20.886 --> 00:22:22.554
  • YOU FOR DOING THAT.THE POINT IS THAT MEANS
  • 00:22:22.554 --> 00:22:23.488
  • THE POINT IS THAT MEANSMORE.
  • 00:22:23.488 --> 00:22:24.055
  • MORE.IT'S LIKE WE'RE THE BRIDE.
  • 00:22:24.055 --> 00:22:24.723
  • IT'S LIKE WE'RE THE BRIDE.YOU KNOW, NOBODY CAN TELL
  • 00:22:24.723 --> 00:22:25.924
  • YOU KNOW, NOBODY CAN TELLUS THAT OUR BRIDEGROOM
  • 00:22:25.924 --> 00:22:26.992
  • US THAT OUR BRIDEGROOMISN'T REAL BECAUSE WE KNOW
  • 00:22:26.992 --> 00:22:30.362
  • AND SO, IF THE LORD
  • 00:22:31.730 --> 00:22:32.230
  • AND SO, IF THE LORDUSES THIS TO DRAW US
  • 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:33.031
  • USES THIS TO DRAW USCLOSER, PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:22:33.031 --> 00:22:33.532
  • CLOSER, PRAISE GOD.IF HE USES US TO MAKE US
  • 00:22:33.532 --> 00:22:35.100
  • IF HE USES US TO MAKE USPURE, PRAISE GOD.
  • 00:22:35.100 --> 00:22:35.967
  • PURE, PRAISE GOD.IF HE USES US TO BE
  • 00:22:35.967 --> 00:22:37.335
  • AND WE CANNOT BE LIGHTS
  • 00:22:38.703 --> 00:22:40.372
  • AND WE CANNOT BE LIGHTSUNLESS WE'RE IN THE
  • 00:22:40.372 --> 00:22:41.273
  • UNLESS WE'RE IN THEPRESENCE OF GOD AND WE'RE
  • 00:22:41.273 --> 00:22:42.908
  • PRESENCE OF GOD AND WE'REBEING REFILLED BY GOD.
  • 00:22:42.908 --> 00:22:43.642
  • BEING REFILLED BY GOD.THAT'S OUR WHOLE FAITH,
  • 00:22:43.642 --> 00:22:44.810
  • THAT'S OUR WHOLE FAITH,AND THIS IS HOW
  • 00:22:44.810 --> 00:22:46.545
  • AND THIS IS HOWTHE MOST POWERFUL TIMES
  • 00:22:46.545 --> 00:22:47.879
  • THE MOST POWERFUL TIMESFOR THE CHURCH WAS NOT
  • 00:22:47.879 --> 00:22:48.914
  • FOR THE CHURCH WAS NOTWHEN THE CHURCH HAD GREAT
  • 00:22:48.914 --> 00:22:50.148
  • WHEN THE CHURCH HAD GREATWORLDLY POWER.
  • 00:22:50.148 --> 00:22:52.250
  • WORLDLY POWER.IT WAS THE BOOK OF ACTS
  • 00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:53.018
  • IT WAS THE BOOK OF ACTSWHEN IT DIDN'T HAVE
  • 00:22:53.018 --> 00:22:53.952
  • IT HAD A LOT OF
  • 00:22:55.120 --> 00:22:55.687
  • IT HAD A LOT OFOPPOSITION, AND, YET LOOK
  • 00:22:55.687 --> 00:22:56.688
  • OPPOSITION, AND, YET LOOKWHAT THEY DID.
  • 00:22:56.688 --> 00:22:57.689
  • WHAT THEY DID.THEY OVERCAME THE WORLD,
  • 00:22:57.689 --> 00:22:59.090
  • THEY OVERCAME THE WORLD,AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A--
  • 00:22:59.090 --> 00:23:00.559
  • AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A--WE WON'T GET INTO IT.
  • 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:01.126
  • WE WON'T GET INTO IT.WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE TIME
  • 00:23:01.126 --> 00:23:03.562
  • BUT THERE IS A DYNAMIC FOR
  • 00:23:04.696 --> 00:23:05.464
  • BUT THERE IS A DYNAMIC FORTHE LATTER DAYS THAT IS
  • 00:23:05.464 --> 00:23:06.131
  • THE LATTER DAYS THAT ISSIMILAR TO THAT OF THE
  • 00:23:06.131 --> 00:23:06.898
  • SIMILAR TO THAT OF THEBEGINNING, THAT THINGS
  • 00:23:06.898 --> 00:23:07.432
  • BEGINNING, THAT THINGSRETURN, AND GOD IS CALLING
  • 00:23:07.432 --> 00:23:09.434
  • RETURN, AND GOD IS CALLINGUS TO LIVE AS IN THE BOOK
  • 00:23:09.434 --> 00:23:10.202
  • US TO LIVE AS IN THE BOOKOF ACTS.
  • 00:23:10.202 --> 00:23:10.702
  • OF ACTS.- ERIC: I'M SORRY WE'RE
  • 00:23:10.702 --> 00:23:11.203
  • - ERIC: I'M SORRY WE'REOUT OF TIME, BUT I'M SO
  • 00:23:11.203 --> 00:23:12.537
  • OUT OF TIME, BUT I'M SOGLAD WE'VE HAD THIS TIME.
  • 00:23:12.537 --> 00:23:13.705
  • GLAD WE'VE HAD THIS TIME.THE NEW BOOK IS "HARBINGER II."
  • 00:23:13.705 --> 00:23:14.606
  • THE NEW BOOK IS "HARBINGER II."JONATHAN CAHN, I THANK GOD
  • 00:23:14.606 --> 00:23:15.774
  • JONATHAN CAHN, I THANK GODFOR YOU,
  • 00:23:15.774 --> 00:23:16.908
  • FOR YOU,AND THANKS FOR BEING ON
  • 00:23:16.908 --> 00:23:18.276
  • - JONATHAN: LIKEWISE,
  • 00:23:19.277 --> 00:23:21.012
  • [POPPING SOUND]
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  • [POPPING SOUND]♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
  • 00:23:32.491 --> 00:23:33.158
  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
  • 00:23:33.158 --> 00:23:39.064
  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
  • 00:23:39.064 --> 00:23:43.335
  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
  • 00:23:43.335 --> 00:23:45.170
  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
  • 00:23:45.170 --> 00:23:52.043
  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
  • 00:23:52.043 --> 00:23:52.878
  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
  • 00:23:52.878 --> 00:23:55.413
  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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