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  • THIS PROGRAM IS SPONSORED
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  • THIS PROGRAM IS SPONSOREDIN PART BY CARSHIELD,
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  • IN PART BY CARSHIELD,GIVING THOUSANDS OF
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  • GIVING THOUSANDS OFVEHICLE OWNERS PEACE OF
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  • VEHICLE OWNERS PEACE OFMIND.
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  • MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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  • [SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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  • [BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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  • [PLOP][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][BOINK]
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  • [BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CRASH]
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  • [CRASH][CHEERS]
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  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE,
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  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE,FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE ERIC
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  • FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE ERICMETAXAS SHOW.
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  • METAXAS SHOW.AS YOU KNOW, I CARE ABOUT
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  • AS YOU KNOW, I CARE ABOUTTHE UNITED STATES OF
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  • THE UNITED STATES OFAMERICA.
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  • AMERICA.I THINK IT'S KIND OF
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  • I THINK IT'S KIND OFIMPORTANT.
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  • IMPORTANT.I THINK IT'S KIND OF
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  • I THINK IT'S KIND OFIMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THE
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  • IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THEACTUAL HISTORY OF THE
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  • ACTUAL HISTORY OF THECOUNTRY, AND I KEEP SAYING
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  • COUNTRY, AND I KEEP SAYINGOVER THE LAST 50 YEARS WE
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  • OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS WEHAVE NOT BEEN TEACHING THE
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  • HAVE NOT BEEN TEACHING THEHISTORY OF THE COUNTRY,
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  • HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY,AND AS A RESULT OF THAT,
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  • AND AS A RESULT OF THAT,WE'VE BEEN SUFFERING AS A
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  • WE'VE BEEN SUFFERING AS ANATION.
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  • NATION.THAT'S WHY I THANK GOD FOR
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  • THAT'S WHY I THANK GOD FORMY FRIENDS DAVID AND TIM
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  • MY FRIENDS DAVID AND TIMBARTON WHO KEEP WRITING
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  • BARTON WHO KEEP WRITINGAND TALKING ABOUT THE REAL
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  • AND TALKING ABOUT THE REALHISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.
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  • HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.DAVID AND TIM, WELCOME TO
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  • DAVID AND TIM, WELCOME TOTHE PROGRAM.
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  • THE PROGRAM.- TIM BARTON: THANKS SO
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  • - TIM BARTON: THANKS SOMUCH FOR US.
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  • MUCH FOR US.IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
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  • IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.- ERIC: TELL ME ALL ABOUT
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  • - ERIC: TELL ME ALL ABOUTTHIS BOOK.
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  • THIS BOOK.WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU WERE
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  • WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU WERECOMING OUT WITH THIS BOOK,
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  • COMING OUT WITH THIS BOOK,IT'S OUT.
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  • IT'S OUT.TELL ME ABOUT THIS BOOK.
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  • TELL ME ABOUT THIS BOOK.WHY YOU DECIDED TO WRITE
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  • WHY YOU DECIDED TO WRITETHIS BOOK FOR NOW?
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  • THIS BOOK FOR NOW?- DAVID BARTON: IT'S AN
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  • - DAVID BARTON: IT'S ANAMERICAN HISTORY BOOK FOR
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  • AMERICAN HISTORY BOOK FORSURE, BUT IT COVERS A LOT
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  • SURE, BUT IT COVERS A LOTOF AMERICAN HISTORY THAT
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  • OF AMERICAN HISTORY THATWE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT
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  • WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUTANYMORE OR THAT WE DON'T
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  • ANYMORE OR THAT WE DON'TEVEN UNDERSTAND ANYMORE,
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  • EVEN UNDERSTAND ANYMORE,AND WITH IT, WE REALLY
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  • AND WITH IT, WE REALLYKIND OF GIVE A LOT OF THE
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  • KIND OF GIVE A LOT OF THEAPOLOGETICS OF WHAT'S
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  • YOU SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING
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  • YOU SEE WHAT'S HAPPENINGWITH CANCEL CULTURE, WITH
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  • WITH CANCEL CULTURE, WITHSTATUES.
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  • STATUES.STATUES ARE BEING TORN
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  • STATUES ARE BEING TORNDOWN AND PEOPLE DON'T EVEN
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  • DOWN AND PEOPLE DON'T EVENKNOW WHY THEY ARE TEARING
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  • KNOW WHY THEY ARE TEARINGTHEM DOWN OR WHAT THEY
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  • THEM DOWN OR WHAT THEYREPRESENT.
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  • REPRESENT.THEY GOT TO GO.
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  • THEY GOT TO GO.SO WE ARE KIND OF
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  • SO WE ARE KIND OFPROVIDING SOME OF THE
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  • PROVIDING SOME OF THEUNDERPINNINGS.
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  • UNDERPINNINGS.THERE IS A REASON THERE
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  • THERE IS A REASON THEREWERE 600 COLUMBUS STATUES
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  • WERE 600 COLUMBUS STATUESIN AMERICA ACROSS THE
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  • IN AMERICA ACROSS THEWORLD.
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  • WORLD.COLUMBUS USED TO BE -- HE
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  • COLUMBUS USED TO BE -- HEWASN'T A PERFECT GUY, BUT
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  • WASN'T A PERFECT GUY, BUTHE DID SOME REALLY GOOD
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  • HE DID SOME REALLY GOODSTUFF.
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  • STUFF.AND WE SHOULD KNOW THAT.
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  • AND WE SHOULD KNOW THAT.NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING GOOD
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  • NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING GOODABOUT COLUMBUS TODAY.
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  • ABOUT COLUMBUS TODAY.SO, IT REALLY IS THE GOOD,
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  • SO, IT REALLY IS THE GOOD,THE BAD, THE UGLY OF
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  • THE BAD, THE UGLY OFAMERICAN HISTORY WITH SOME
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  • AMERICAN HISTORY WITH SOMEAPOLOGETICS AND A LOT OF
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  • APOLOGETICS AND A LOT OFSTORIES.
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  • STORIES.- TIM: ONE OF THE THINGS
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  • - TIM: ONE OF THE THINGSWE REPORTED OUT, WE HAVE
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  • WE REPORTED OUT, WE HAVEBEEN WORKING ON THIS BOOK
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  • BEEN WORKING ON THIS BOOKFOR SEVERAL YEARS.
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  • FOR SEVERAL YEARS.WE ARE GRATEFUL IT FINALLY
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  • WE ARE GRATEFUL IT FINALLYTOOK A PLACE FOR COMING
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  • TOOK A PLACE FOR COMINGOUT.
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  • OUT.WE HAD TO BE VERY
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  • WE HAD TO BE VERYSELECTIVE ABOUT HOW MUCH
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  • SELECTIVE ABOUT HOW MUCHWE COULD TELL.
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  • WE COULD TELL.BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TELL
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  • BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TELLA LOT MORE THAN WE WERE
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  • A LOT MORE THAN WE WEREABLE TO JUST IN THIS BOOK.
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  • ABLE TO JUST IN THIS BOOK.EVEN NOW, PROVIDENTIALLY,
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  • EVEN NOW, PROVIDENTIALLY,SINCE WE STARTED ON THIS
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  • SINCE WE STARTED ON THISTHREE YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T
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  • THREE YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'TKNOW THAT THERE WAS GOING
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  • KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOINGTO BE THIS BIG CANCEL
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  • TO BE THIS BIG CANCELCULTURE MOVEMENT WE ARE
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  • CULTURE MOVEMENT WE ARESEEING RIGHT NOW WHERE
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  • SEEING RIGHT NOW WHERESTATUES ARE BEING TORN
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  • STATUES ARE BEING TORNDOWN.
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  • DOWN.AND I WOULD SAY
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  • AND I WOULD SAYPROVIDENTIALLY, MANY OF
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  • PROVIDENTIALLY, MANY OFTHE STORIES WE COVER ARE
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  • THE STORIES WE COVER ARETHE STORIES OF THE VERY
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  • THE STORIES OF THE VERYPEOPLE WHO ARE NOW HAVING
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  • AND WE TELL THE WHOLE OF
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  • AND WE TELL THE WHOLE OFTHE STORY IN MANY REGARDS
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  • THE STORY IN MANY REGARDSSAYING, LOOK, WE KNOW THEY
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  • SAYING, LOOK, WE KNOW THEYWEREN'T PERFECT, BUT THE
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  • WEREN'T PERFECT, BUT THEREASON THEY SHOULD BE
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  • REASON THEY SHOULD BECELEBRATED, THE REASON
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  • OR MAYBE THE REASON
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  • OR MAYBE THE REASONTHEY WERE HONORABLE PEOPLE
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  • THEY WERE HONORABLE PEOPLEWAS BECAUSE OF MORE OF THEIR
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  • WAS BECAUSE OF MORE OF THEIRSTORY, AND WE GIVE A LOT
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  • STORY, AND WE GIVE A LOTOF THOSE DETAILS IN THE
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  • OF THOSE DETAILS IN THESTORY.
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  • STORY.WE UNDERSTAND EVEN AS
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  • WE UNDERSTAND EVEN ASCHRISTIANS WE KNOW
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  • CHRISTIANS WE KNOWNOBODY'S PERFECT.
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  • NOBODY'S PERFECT.EVERYBODY IS A SINNER WHO
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  • EVERYBODY IS A SINNER WHONEEDS A SAVIOR.
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  • NEEDS A SAVIOR.IN THE MIDST OF THAT
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  • IN THE MIDST OF THATCONTEXT IT RECOGNIZES THAT
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  • CONTEXT IT RECOGNIZES THATA PERFECT GOD USES
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  • A PERFECT GOD USESIMPERFECT PEOPLE AND DOES
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  • IMPERFECT PEOPLE AND DOESGREAT THINGS THROUGH THEM
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  • GREAT THINGS THROUGH THEMAND THAT'S MUCH THE STORY
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  • AND THAT'S MUCH THE STORYOF AMERICA.
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  • OF AMERICA.- ERIC: A LOT OF TIMES
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  • - ERIC: A LOT OF TIMESLIBERALS BRISTLE WHEN WE
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  • LIBERALS BRISTLE WHEN WETALK ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN
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  • TALK ABOUT THE CHRISTIANROOTS OF THIS COUNTRY.
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  • ROOTS OF THIS COUNTRY.I ALWAYS HAVE TO CLARIFY
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  • I ALWAYS HAVE TO CLARIFYTHAT.
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  • THAT.TO MY MIND, THE REASON WE
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  • TO MY MIND, THE REASON WECAN BE AND HAVE BEEN SUCH
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  • CAN BE AND HAVE BEEN SUCHA DRAMATICALLY CHRISTIAN
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  • A DRAMATICALLY CHRISTIANCOUNTRY IN SO MANY WAYS IS
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  • COUNTRY IN SO MANY WAYS ISBECAUSE WE ARE NOT
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  • WE HAVE FREEDOM OF
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  • WE HAVE FREEDOM OFRELIGION IN AMERICA.
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  • RELIGION IN AMERICA.NONETHELESS, IT IS
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  • NONETHELESS, IT ISINESCAPABLE.
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  • INESCAPABLE.I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT IT
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  • I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT ITMYSELF AND TALKED ABOUT
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  • MYSELF AND TALKED ABOUTIT, THAT THE ROOTS OF
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  • IT, THAT THE ROOTS OFAMERICA ARE DRAMATICALLY
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  • BY CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS
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  • BY CHRISTIAN BELIEVERSAND BY PEOPLE WHO
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  • AND BY PEOPLE WHOEVEN IF THEY
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  • EVEN IF THEYTHEMSELVES WEREN'T
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  • THEMSELVES WEREN'TTHEOLOGICALLY ORTHODOX
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  • THEOLOGICALLY ORTHODOXCHRISTIANS, NONETHELESS,
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  • CHRISTIANS, NONETHELESS,UNDERSTOOD THE CENTRALITY
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  • UNDERSTOOD THE CENTRALITYOF CHRISTIAN FAITH AND
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  • OF CHRISTIAN FAITH ANDVIRTUE IN SELF-GOVERNMENT.
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  • VIRTUE IN SELF-GOVERNMENT.TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
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  • TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUTTHAT.
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  • THAT.- TIM: ONE OF THE NOTIONS
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  • - TIM: ONE OF THE NOTIONSTODAY IS THAT IF WE SAY
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  • TODAY IS THAT IF WE SAYAMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN
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  • AMERICA IS A CHRISTIANNATION, THAT MEANT THAT
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  • NATION, THAT MEANT THATEVERYTHING HAPPENED IN
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  • EVERYTHING HAPPENED INAMERICA HAD TO BE
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  • AMERICA HAD TO BECHRISTIAN OR APPROVED BY
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  • CHRISTIAN OR APPROVED BYMAYBE A CHURCH LEADER OR
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  • MAYBE A CHURCH LEADER ORA PASTOR.
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  • A PASTOR.AND WE LOSE THE IDEA THAT,
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  • AND WE LOSE THE IDEA THAT,NO, THE REASON WE SAY WE
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  • NO, THE REASON WE SAY WEARE A CHRISTIAN NATION IS
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  • ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION ISBECAUSE CHRISTIANITY WAS
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  • BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY WASTHE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH
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  • THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICHAMERICA WAS BUILT.
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  • AMERICA WAS BUILT.ERIC, AS YOU MENTIONED,
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  • ERIC, AS YOU MENTIONED,NOT EVERY SINGLE FOUNDING
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  • NOT EVERY SINGLE FOUNDINGFATHER WAS A CHRISTIAN.
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  • FATHER WAS A CHRISTIAN.WE ACTUALLY KNOW ALL OF
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  • WE ACTUALLY KNOW ALL OFTHEIR STORIES.
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  • THEIR STORIES.WE KNOW THE ONES WHO WERE
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  • WE KNOW THE ONES WHO WEREAND WERE NOT.
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  • AND WERE NOT.EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY
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  • EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITYWERE PEOPLE WHO PROFESSED
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  • WERE PEOPLE WHO PROFESSEDCHRISTIANITY, EVEN THE
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  • CHRISTIANITY, EVEN THEONES WHO DIDN'T, LIKE, FOR
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  • ONES WHO DIDN'T, LIKE, FOREXAMPLE, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN,
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  • EXAMPLE, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN,SAID WE STILL NEED TO
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  • SAID WE STILL NEED TOHAVE THE BIBLE AS A
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  • HAVE THE BIBLE AS AFOUNDATION OF WHAT WE DO.
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  • FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE DO.WE STILL WANT TO ENCOURAGE
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  • WE STILL WANT TO ENCOURAGEPEOPLE TO GO TO CHURCH,
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  • PEOPLE TO GO TO CHURCH,BECAUSE EVEN GUYS LIKE
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  • BECAUSE EVEN GUYS LIKEFRANKLIN BELIEVED THAT
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  • FRANKLIN BELIEVED THATTHERE WAS A GOD.
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  • THERE WAS A GOD.HE QUESTIONED THE DIVINITY
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  • HE WASN'T SURE HE REALLY KNEW
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  • HE WASN'T SURE HE REALLY KNEWTHAT JESUS WAS DIVINE, BUT
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  • THAT JESUS WAS DIVINE, BUTHE BELIEVED THERE WAS A
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  • HE BELIEVED THERE WAS AGOD WHO REWARDED GOOD AND
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  • GOD WHO REWARDED GOOD ANDPUNISHED WICKED, AND GOD
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  • PUNISHED WICKED, AND GODREVEALED MORAL TRUTH IN
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  • REVEALED MORAL TRUTH INHIS BIBLE, AND IF PEOPLE
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  • HIS BIBLE, AND IF PEOPLEWOULD GO TO CHURCH THEY
  • 00:04:56.641 --> 00:04:57.142
  • WOULD GO TO CHURCH THEYWOULD LEARN MORE ABOUT
  • 00:04:57.142 --> 00:04:58.510
  • WOULD LEARN MORE ABOUTTHAT MORAL TRUTH.
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  • THAT MORAL TRUTH.THIS IS FROM BENJAMIN FRANKLIN,
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  • THIS IS FROM BENJAMIN FRANKLIN,THE LEAST RELIGIOUS FOUNDING
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  • THE LEAST RELIGIOUS FOUNDINGFATHER, ARGUABLY,
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  • FATHER, ARGUABLY,AND WHEN WE SAY
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  • AND WHEN WE SAYCHRISTIANITY REALLY WAS
  • 00:05:05.350 --> 00:05:05.917
  • CHRISTIANITY REALLY WASWHAT SHAPED AND INFLUENCED
  • 00:05:05.917 --> 00:05:07.052
  • WHAT SHAPED AND INFLUENCEDAMERICA, IT'S NOT BECAUSE
  • 00:05:07.052 --> 00:05:08.153
  • AMERICA, IT'S NOT BECAUSEEVERY AMERICAN WAS
  • 00:05:08.153 --> 00:05:08.987
  • EVERY AMERICAN WASCHRISTIAN, BUT IT'S
  • 00:05:08.987 --> 00:05:10.455
  • CHRISTIAN, BUT IT'SBECAUSE EVERY AMERICAN
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  • BECAUSE EVERY AMERICANGREW UP IN A CULTURE THAT
  • 00:05:11.757 --> 00:05:13.392
  • GREW UP IN A CULTURE THATWAS SHAPED BY CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:05:13.392 --> 00:05:14.860
  • WAS SHAPED BY CHRISTIANITYAND THE BIBLE.
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  • AND THE BIBLE.- DAVID: YEAH, PART OF
  • 00:05:15.527 --> 00:05:16.795
  • - DAVID: YEAH, PART OFTHE MISUNDERSTANDING TOO I
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  • THE MISUNDERSTANDING TOO ITHINK GOES TO THE FACT
  • 00:05:17.763 --> 00:05:19.498
  • THINK GOES TO THE FACTPEOPLE WHEN THEY TALK
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  • PEOPLE WHEN THEY TALKABOUT A CHRISTIAN NATION,
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  • ABOUT A CHRISTIAN NATION,THEY REDEFINED IT INTO
  • 00:05:22.100 --> 00:05:23.835
  • THEY REDEFINED IT INTOWHAT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE.
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  • WHAT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE.A THEOCRACY.
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  • A THEOCRACY.WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, WE
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  • WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, WEHAVE THREE SUPREME COURT
  • 00:05:26.705 --> 00:05:28.273
  • HAVE THREE SUPREME COURTDECISIONS, ONE IN 1844,
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  • DECISIONS, ONE IN 1844,ONE IN 1931, ANOTHER IN
  • 00:05:29.841 --> 00:05:31.476
  • ONE IN 1931, ANOTHER IN1892, WHERE THE SUPREME
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  • 1892, WHERE THE SUPREMECOURT UNANIMOUSLY SAID WE
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  • COURT UNANIMOUSLY SAID WEARE A CHRISTIAN PEOPLE.
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  • ARE A CHRISTIAN PEOPLE.WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION.
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  • WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION.WE ARE A CHRISTIAN
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  • WE ARE A CHRISTIANCOUNTRY.
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  • COUNTRY.1892 CASE IS THE ONE I
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  • 1892 CASE IS THE ONE ILIKE THE BEST, BECAUSE IT
  • 00:05:40.752 --> 00:05:41.686
  • LIKE THE BEST, BECAUSE ITDEFINES WHAT A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:05:41.686 --> 00:05:43.655
  • DEFINES WHAT A CHRISTIANNATION IS.
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  • NATION IS.JUSTICE BREWER, WHO
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  • JUSTICE BREWER, WHOACTUALLY GAVE THE
  • 00:05:46.658 --> 00:05:47.859
  • ACTUALLY GAVE THEUNANIMOUS OPINION FOR THE
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  • UNANIMOUS OPINION FOR THECOURT, ALL THE JUSTICES
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  • COURT, ALL THE JUSTICESSAID WE ARE A CHRISTIAN
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  • SAID WE ARE A CHRISTIANCOUNTRY BECAUSE
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  • COUNTRY BECAUSECHRISTIANITY HAS SO
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  • CHRISTIANITY HAS SOLARGELY INFLUENCED AND
  • 00:05:53.498 --> 00:05:54.900
  • LARGELY INFLUENCED ANDSHAPED OUR CULTURE AND OUR
  • 00:05:54.900 --> 00:05:57.436
  • SHAPED OUR CULTURE AND OURINSTITUTIONS.
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  • INSTITUTIONS.IT WASN'T BECAUSE
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  • IT WASN'T BECAUSEEVERYBODY HERE WAS A
  • 00:05:58.603 --> 00:05:59.538
  • EVERYBODY HERE WAS ACHRISTIAN OR YOU GOT MORE
  • 00:05:59.538 --> 00:06:00.539
  • CHRISTIAN OR YOU GOT MOREBENEFITS IF YOU WERE.
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  • BENEFITS IF YOU WERE.STARTING IN THE EARLY
  • 00:06:01.807 --> 00:06:03.442
  • STARTING IN THE EARLY1600s WE HAD MUSLIMS IN
  • 00:06:03.442 --> 00:06:05.210
  • WE HAD EVERY CONCEIVABLE
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  • WE HAD EVERY CONCEIVABLERELIGION YOU CAN THINK OF,
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  • RELIGION YOU CAN THINK OF,BUT OUR CULTURE, OUR
  • 00:06:09.848 --> 00:06:10.382
  • BUT OUR CULTURE, OURINSTITUTIONS, OUR VALUES
  • 00:06:10.382 --> 00:06:12.918
  • INSTITUTIONS, OUR VALUESWERE SHAPED BY THE BIBLE,
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  • WERE SHAPED BY THE BIBLE,AND THAT'S WHAT MADE US A
  • 00:06:13.552 --> 00:06:14.586
  • AND THAT'S WHAT MADE US ACHRISTIAN NATION AS
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  • CHRISTIAN NATION ASOPPOSED TO TODAY WHERE
  • 00:06:16.521 --> 00:06:17.055
  • OPPOSED TO TODAY WHERETHEY SAY, UNLESS YOU ARE A
  • 00:06:17.055 --> 00:06:18.523
  • THEY SAY, UNLESS YOU ARE ACHRISTIAN, YOU CAN'T VOTE
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  • CHRISTIAN, YOU CAN'T VOTEOR YOU CAN'T BE ELECTED.
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  • OR YOU CAN'T BE ELECTED.THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK IT
  • 00:06:20.058 --> 00:06:21.259
  • THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK ITMEANS, AND THAT'S NEVER
  • 00:06:21.259 --> 00:06:22.661
  • MEANS, AND THAT'S NEVERWHAT IT'S MEANT, EVER.
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  • WHAT IT'S MEANT, EVER.- ERIC: PEOPLE DON'T
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  • - ERIC: PEOPLE DON'TUNDERSTAND RELIGIOUS
  • 00:06:24.796 --> 00:06:27.265
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY
  • 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:29.034
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY THEYLEAP TO STATEMENTS LIKE,
  • 00:06:29.034 --> 00:06:29.568
  • LEAP TO STATEMENTS LIKE,CHRISTIANS WANT TO TURN
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  • CHRISTIANS WANT TO TURNAMERICA INTO A THEOCRACY.
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  • AMERICA INTO A THEOCRACY.THAT'S SO ABSURD.
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  • THAT'S SO ABSURD.I HAVE TO LAUGH.
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  • I HAVE TO LAUGH.THEN I GET SAD WHEN I
  • 00:06:34.739 --> 00:06:35.874
  • THEN I GET SAD WHEN ITHINK THERE ARE PEOPLE
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  • THINK THERE ARE PEOPLEIGNORANT ENOUGH ACTUALLY
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  • IGNORANT ENOUGH ACTUALLYTO BELIEVE THAT.
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  • TO BELIEVE THAT.I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE
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  • I DON'T KNOW A SINGLECHRISTIAN THAT I WOULD
  • 00:06:41.346 --> 00:06:42.514
  • CHRISTIAN THAT I WOULDTHINK IS A REAL CHRISTIAN
  • 00:06:42.514 --> 00:06:44.015
  • THINK IS A REAL CHRISTIANTHAT DOESN'T BELIEVE IN
  • 00:06:44.015 --> 00:06:45.150
  • THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE INFREEDOM OF RELIGION OR
  • 00:06:45.150 --> 00:06:46.451
  • FREEDOM OF RELIGION ORTHAT THINKS THAT YOU CAN
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  • IN FACT, IF EVER THERE WAS
  • 00:06:50.455 --> 00:06:51.122
  • IN FACT, IF EVER THERE WASA COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY
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  • A COUNTRY IN THE HISTORYOF THE WORLD THAT WAS
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  • OF THE WORLD THAT WASFORMED ON THAT IDEA, I
  • 00:06:53.291 --> 00:06:54.359
  • FORMED ON THAT IDEA, IMEAN, MOST OF THE PEOPLE
  • 00:06:54.359 --> 00:06:55.694
  • MEAN, MOST OF THE PEOPLECAME TO OUR SHORES BECAUSE
  • 00:06:55.694 --> 00:06:56.795
  • CAME TO OUR SHORES BECAUSETHEY WERE FLEEING ENFORCED
  • 00:06:56.795 --> 00:06:58.396
  • THEY WERE FLEEING ENFORCEDRELIGION, AND THEY
  • 00:06:58.396 --> 00:06:59.564
  • RELIGION, AND THEYUNDERSTOOD THE IDEA THAT
  • 00:06:59.564 --> 00:07:00.565
  • UNDERSTOOD THE IDEA THATIT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT
  • 00:07:00.565 --> 00:07:03.134
  • EVEN IF YOU COULD FORCE
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  • EVEN IF YOU COULD FORCEIT, IT WOULD BE A BAD
  • 00:07:05.637 --> 00:07:06.137
  • IT, IT WOULD BE A BADIDEA.
  • 00:07:06.137 --> 00:07:07.272
  • IDEA.AND THEY ENSHRINED
  • 00:07:07.272 --> 00:07:08.173
  • AND THEY ENSHRINEDRELIGIOUS LIBERTY IN OUR
  • 00:07:08.173 --> 00:07:10.675
  • RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IN OURFOUNDING DOCUMENTS.
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  • FOUNDING DOCUMENTS.PEOPLE TODAY DON'T SEEM TO
  • 00:07:11.743 --> 00:07:13.345
  • PEOPLE TODAY DON'T SEEM TOGET THAT.
  • 00:07:13.345 --> 00:07:14.579
  • GET THAT.THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
  • 00:07:14.579 --> 00:07:15.981
  • THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOWFREEDOM WORKS OR HOW
  • 00:07:15.981 --> 00:07:17.282
  • FREEDOM WORKS OR HOWRELIGIOUS LIBERTY WORKS,
  • 00:07:17.282 --> 00:07:18.583
  • RELIGIOUS LIBERTY WORKS,OR, FRANKLY HOW CHRISTIAN
  • 00:07:18.583 --> 00:07:19.184
  • OR, FRANKLY HOW CHRISTIANFAITH WORKS.
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  • FAITH WORKS.BECAUSE THERE ARE
  • 00:07:20.085 --> 00:07:22.554
  • BECAUSE THERE ARERELIGIONS AND THE
  • 00:07:22.554 --> 00:07:23.855
  • RELIGIONS AND THECHRISTIAN RELIGION IN THE
  • 00:07:23.855 --> 00:07:25.590
  • CHRISTIAN RELIGION IN THEPAST AS WELL THAT HAD BEEN
  • 00:07:25.590 --> 00:07:26.725
  • PAST AS WELL THAT HAD BEENIMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT.
  • 00:07:26.725 --> 00:07:28.527
  • IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT.SO THAT IS PART OF
  • 00:07:28.527 --> 00:07:28.994
  • SO THAT IS PART OFHISTORY.
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  • HISTORY.BUT IT NOT PART OF
  • 00:07:30.095 --> 00:07:31.229
  • BUT IT NOT PART OFAMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:07:31.229 --> 00:07:31.930
  • AMERICAN HISTORY.THAT'S WHAT MAKES US
  • 00:07:31.930 --> 00:07:33.565
  • THAT'S WHAT MAKES USUNIQUE IN THIS RESPECT, AT
  • 00:07:33.565 --> 00:07:34.399
  • UNIQUE IN THIS RESPECT, ATLEAST.
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  • LEAST.- TIM: ONE OF THE THINGS,
  • 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.868
  • - TIM: ONE OF THE THINGS,AS YOU'RE POINTING THIS
  • 00:07:36.868 --> 00:07:38.270
  • AS YOU'RE POINTING THISOUT, WE HIGHLIGHT IN THE
  • 00:07:38.270 --> 00:07:39.604
  • OUT, WE HIGHLIGHT IN THEBOOK, MANY OF THOSE
  • 00:07:39.604 --> 00:07:40.405
  • BOOK, MANY OF THOSESTORIES FROM PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:07:40.405 --> 00:07:41.473
  • STORIES FROM PEOPLE WHOCAME TO AMERICA, BECAUSE
  • 00:07:41.473 --> 00:07:42.240
  • CAME TO AMERICA, BECAUSETHEY WERE ESCAPING THE
  • 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:43.742
  • THEY WERE ESCAPING THEPERSECUTION OF THE KING,
  • 00:07:43.742 --> 00:07:45.010
  • PERSECUTION OF THE KING,OF THE CROWN AND WHATEVER
  • 00:07:45.010 --> 00:07:46.878
  • OF THE CROWN AND WHATEVERDENOMINATION THE KING OR
  • 00:07:46.878 --> 00:07:48.013
  • DENOMINATION THE KING ORCROWN HAD CHOSEN, WHETHER
  • 00:07:48.013 --> 00:07:48.914
  • CROWN HAD CHOSEN, WHETHERIT WAS CATHOLIC OR
  • 00:07:48.914 --> 00:07:49.748
  • IT WAS CATHOLIC ORANGLICAN OR WHEREVER THEY
  • 00:07:49.748 --> 00:07:51.449
  • ANGLICAN OR WHEREVER THEYWERE, OFTENTIMES THE KING
  • 00:07:51.449 --> 00:07:52.517
  • WERE, OFTENTIMES THE KINGWOULD CHOOSE THE
  • 00:07:52.517 --> 00:07:52.984
  • WOULD CHOOSE THEDENOMINATION.
  • 00:07:52.984 --> 00:07:53.919
  • DENOMINATION.SO WE GO THROUGH PEOPLE
  • 00:07:53.919 --> 00:07:55.153
  • SO WE GO THROUGH PEOPLELIKE THE PILGRIMS, LIKE
  • 00:07:55.153 --> 00:07:56.121
  • LIKE THE PILGRIMS, LIKETHE PURITANS, LIKE
  • 00:07:56.121 --> 00:07:57.889
  • THE PURITANS, LIKEQUAKERS, MANY PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:07:57.889 --> 00:07:59.124
  • QUAKERS, MANY PEOPLE WHOFLED TO THE SHORES OF
  • 00:07:59.124 --> 00:08:00.725
  • FLED TO THE SHORES OFAMERICA SEEKING REFUGE TO
  • 00:08:00.725 --> 00:08:02.093
  • AMERICA SEEKING REFUGE TOBE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR
  • 00:08:02.093 --> 00:08:03.161
  • BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIRRELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
  • 00:08:03.161 --> 00:08:04.162
  • RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.ERIC, YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:08:04.162 --> 00:08:05.630
  • ERIC, YOU'RE RIGHT.A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
  • 00:08:05.630 --> 00:08:06.665
  • A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLEDON'T UNDERSTAND, EVEN THE
  • 00:08:06.665 --> 00:08:08.133
  • DON'T UNDERSTAND, EVEN THEREASON WE HAVE RELIGIOUS
  • 00:08:08.133 --> 00:08:09.000
  • REASON WE HAVE RELIGIOUSFREEDOM IN AMERICA TODAY
  • 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:09.834
  • FREEDOM IN AMERICA TODAYIS BECAUSE OF
  • 00:08:09.834 --> 00:08:10.535
  • IS BECAUSE OFCHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:08:10.535 --> 00:08:12.170
  • CHRISTIANITY.IT IS INSIDE OF
  • 00:08:12.170 --> 00:08:13.838
  • IT IS INSIDE OFCHRISTIANITY THAT YOU GET
  • 00:08:13.838 --> 00:08:14.873
  • CHRISTIANITY THAT YOU GETTHE IDEA -- BY THE WAY I'M
  • 00:08:14.873 --> 00:08:15.707
  • THE IDEA -- BY THE WAY I'MSAYING CHRISTIANITY,
  • 00:08:15.707 --> 00:08:17.709
  • SAYING CHRISTIANITY,REALLY JUDAEO-CHRISTIAN
  • 00:08:17.709 --> 00:08:19.077
  • REALLY JUDAEO-CHRISTIANIDEA, BECAUSE JEWS LARGELY
  • 00:08:19.077 --> 00:08:20.946
  • IDEA, BECAUSE JEWS LARGELYBELIEVED MANY OF THESE
  • 00:08:20.946 --> 00:08:22.180
  • BELIEVED MANY OF THESEIDEAS TOO.
  • 00:08:22.180 --> 00:08:22.747
  • IDEAS TOO.MANY OF THESE ARE FOUND IN
  • 00:08:22.747 --> 00:08:23.448
  • MANY OF THESE ARE FOUND INTHE OLD TESTAMENT, NOT
  • 00:08:23.448 --> 00:08:26.117
  • THE OLD TESTAMENT, NOTJUST THE NEW TESTAMENT.
  • 00:08:26.117 --> 00:08:26.685
  • JUST THE NEW TESTAMENT.IF YOU TAKE ADAM AND EVE
  • 00:08:26.685 --> 00:08:27.218
  • IF YOU TAKE ADAM AND EVEIN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, GOD
  • 00:08:27.218 --> 00:08:29.321
  • IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, GODSAID, HERE'S WHAT'S GOOD
  • 00:08:29.321 --> 00:08:30.155
  • SAID, HERE'S WHAT'S GOODAND HERE'S WHAT'S BAD, BUT
  • 00:08:30.155 --> 00:08:32.924
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT JOSHUA
  • 00:08:34.092 --> 00:08:34.593
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT JOSHUAWHEN HE WAS LEADING THE
  • 00:08:34.593 --> 00:08:35.527
  • WHEN HE WAS LEADING THEISRAELITES GOING INTO
  • 00:08:35.527 --> 00:08:36.661
  • ISRAELITES GOING INTOCANAAN, JOSHUA TOLD THEM,
  • 00:08:36.661 --> 00:08:37.629
  • CANAAN, JOSHUA TOLD THEM,GUYS, YOU'RE GONNA GET A
  • 00:08:37.629 --> 00:08:39.464
  • GUYS, YOU'RE GONNA GET ACHOICE.
  • 00:08:39.464 --> 00:08:40.365
  • CHOICE.YOU CAN CHOOSE IF YOU WANT
  • 00:08:40.365 --> 00:08:41.600
  • YOU CAN CHOOSE IF YOU WANTTO WORSHIP THE GOD FROM
  • 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:42.500
  • TO WORSHIP THE GOD FROMEGYPT WHERE YOU FLED, OR
  • 00:08:42.500 --> 00:08:43.468
  • EGYPT WHERE YOU FLED, ORTHE GOD IN THE LAND WE ARE
  • 00:08:43.468 --> 00:08:44.869
  • THE GOD IN THE LAND WE ARELIVING NOW, OR THE GOD WHO
  • 00:08:44.869 --> 00:08:47.739
  • LIVING NOW, OR THE GOD WHOBROUGHT US OUT OF EGYPT,
  • 00:08:47.739 --> 00:08:48.807
  • BROUGHT US OUT OF EGYPT,WHO IS LEADING US TO THE
  • 00:08:48.807 --> 00:08:49.341
  • WHO IS LEADING US TO THEPROMISED LAND.
  • 00:08:49.341 --> 00:08:50.442
  • PROMISED LAND.AND THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE
  • 00:08:50.442 --> 00:08:51.810
  • AND THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVETHE FAMOUS PASSAGE WHERE
  • 00:08:51.810 --> 00:08:52.544
  • THE FAMOUS PASSAGE WHEREJOSHUA SAYS, "AS FOR ME
  • 00:08:52.544 --> 00:08:53.378
  • JOSHUA SAYS, "AS FOR MEAND MY HOUSE, WE WILL
  • 00:08:53.378 --> 00:08:54.312
  • AND MY HOUSE, WE WILLSERVE THE LORD." THE POINT
  • 00:08:54.312 --> 00:08:55.947
  • SERVE THE LORD." THE POINTIS, INSIDE OF CHRISTIANITY
  • 00:08:55.947 --> 00:08:57.749
  • IS, INSIDE OF CHRISTIANITYIS WHERE WE GET THE NOTION
  • 00:08:57.749 --> 00:09:00.418
  • IS WHERE WE GET THE NOTIONTHERE IS A FREEDOM, A
  • 00:09:00.418 --> 00:09:01.853
  • THERE IS A FREEDOM, ACHOICE OF RELIGION.
  • 00:09:01.853 --> 00:09:03.455
  • CHOICE OF RELIGION.THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:09:03.455 --> 00:09:04.222
  • THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THATWAS GOING ON IN THE REST
  • 00:09:04.222 --> 00:09:06.758
  • WAS GOING ON IN THE RESTOF THE WORLD AT THE TIME,
  • 00:09:06.758 --> 00:09:07.559
  • OF THE WORLD AT THE TIME,AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING
  • 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:08.159
  • AND IT'S NOT SOMETHINGTHAT EVEN LARGELY GOES ON IN
  • 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:08.660
  • THAT EVEN LARGELY GOES ON INTHE REST OF THE WORLD
  • 00:09:08.660 --> 00:09:09.260
  • THE REST OF THE WORLDRIGHT NOW.
  • 00:09:09.260 --> 00:09:09.995
  • RIGHT NOW.AMERICA IS STILL VERY
  • 00:09:09.995 --> 00:09:11.796
  • AMERICA IS STILL VERYUNIQUE IN RECOGNIZING THE
  • 00:09:11.796 --> 00:09:14.799
  • UNIQUE IN RECOGNIZING THEFREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND
  • 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:15.700
  • FREEDOM OF RELIGION, ANDMOST PEOPLE AGAIN DON'T
  • 00:09:15.700 --> 00:09:16.234
  • MOST PEOPLE AGAIN DON'TKNOW, THAT IS A UNIQUELY
  • 00:09:16.234 --> 00:09:17.402
  • KNOW, THAT IS A UNIQUELYCHRISTIAN OR
  • 00:09:17.402 --> 00:09:20.271
  • - DAVID: AND THAT'S ONE
  • 00:09:21.306 --> 00:09:22.273
  • - DAVID: AND THAT'S ONEOF THE THINGS WE COVER IN
  • 00:09:22.273 --> 00:09:23.208
  • OF THE THINGS WE COVER INTHE BOOK IS THE DIFFERENCE
  • 00:09:23.208 --> 00:09:23.742
  • THE BOOK IS THE DIFFERENCEBETWEEN CHRISTIAN BELIEFS
  • 00:09:23.742 --> 00:09:24.442
  • BETWEEN CHRISTIAN BELIEFSAND BIBLICAL BELIEFS,
  • 00:09:24.442 --> 00:09:26.411
  • AND BIBLICAL BELIEFS,BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT
  • 00:09:26.411 --> 00:09:27.912
  • BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOTOF CHRISTIAN PLACES ACROSS
  • 00:09:27.912 --> 00:09:28.880
  • OF CHRISTIAN PLACES ACROSSEUROPE THAT SAID IN THE
  • 00:09:28.880 --> 00:09:29.981
  • EUROPE THAT SAID IN THENAME OF CHRIST, YOU ARE
  • 00:09:29.981 --> 00:09:31.316
  • NAME OF CHRIST, YOU AREGOING TO BE THIS RELIGION.
  • 00:09:31.316 --> 00:09:32.183
  • GOING TO BE THIS RELIGION.OR IN THE NAME OF CHRIST,
  • 00:09:32.183 --> 00:09:33.318
  • OR IN THE NAME OF CHRIST,WE'RE GOING TO KILL JEWS.
  • 00:09:33.318 --> 00:09:34.352
  • WE'RE GOING TO KILL JEWS.THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL.
  • 00:09:34.352 --> 00:09:35.620
  • THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL.THAT MAY BE A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:09:35.620 --> 00:09:36.388
  • THAT MAY BE A CHRISTIANLEADER SAYING IT, BUT
  • 00:09:36.388 --> 00:09:37.389
  • LEADER SAYING IT, BUTTHAT'S NOT BIBLICAL.
  • 00:09:37.389 --> 00:09:38.356
  • THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL.SO THE BIBLICAL STUFF, AS
  • 00:09:38.356 --> 00:09:40.859
  • SO THE BIBLICAL STUFF, ASTIM SAID, EVEN WITH
  • 00:09:40.859 --> 00:09:41.993
  • TIM SAID, EVEN WITHJOSHUA, A CHOICE IN THE
  • 00:09:41.993 --> 00:09:42.861
  • JOSHUA, A CHOICE IN THEGARDEN, OR ELIJAH IS ON
  • 00:09:42.861 --> 00:09:44.529
  • GARDEN, OR ELIJAH IS ONTOP OF MOUNT CARMEL.
  • 00:09:44.529 --> 00:09:45.397
  • TOP OF MOUNT CARMEL.DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW
  • 00:09:45.397 --> 00:09:46.297
  • DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOWBAAL?
  • 00:09:46.297 --> 00:09:46.998
  • BAAL?DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW GOD?
  • 00:09:46.998 --> 00:09:47.799
  • DO YOU WANT TO FOLLOW GOD?IT'S YOUR CHOICE.
  • 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:48.433
  • IT'S YOUR CHOICE.JESUS SAID, WHOEVER WANTS
  • 00:09:48.433 --> 00:09:49.834
  • JESUS SAID, WHOEVER WANTSTO, FOLLOW ME.
  • 00:09:49.834 --> 00:09:51.169
  • TO, FOLLOW ME.IT IS ALWAYS A CHOICE.
  • 00:09:51.169 --> 00:09:52.537
  • IT IS ALWAYS A CHOICE.WHERE THERE IS BIBLICAL
  • 00:09:52.537 --> 00:09:53.405
  • WHERE THERE IS BIBLICALCHRISTIANITY, YOU GET A
  • 00:09:53.405 --> 00:09:54.806
  • CHRISTIANITY, YOU GET ALOT OF CHOICES.
  • 00:09:54.806 --> 00:09:56.341
  • LOT OF CHOICES.WHERE THERE IS NOT
  • 00:09:56.341 --> 00:09:57.342
  • WHERE THERE IS NOTBIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY, YOU
  • 00:09:57.342 --> 00:09:58.877
  • BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY, YOUGET A LOT OF COERCION,
  • 00:09:58.877 --> 00:10:00.011
  • GET A LOT OF COERCION,EVEN IN A SECULAR PLACE.
  • 00:10:00.011 --> 00:10:01.946
  • EVEN IN A SECULAR PLACE.A LOT OF SECULAR
  • 00:10:01.946 --> 00:10:02.881
  • A LOT OF SECULARGOVERNMENTS ARE VERY
  • 00:10:02.881 --> 00:10:03.581
  • GOVERNMENTS ARE VERYCOERCIVE.
  • 00:10:03.581 --> 00:10:04.816
  • COERCIVE.PROGRESSIVE SECULARISTS
  • 00:10:04.816 --> 00:10:06.718
  • PROGRESSIVE SECULARISTSTEND TO BE VERY COERCIVE,
  • 00:10:06.718 --> 00:10:07.952
  • TEND TO BE VERY COERCIVE,DO IT THEIR WAY.
  • 00:10:07.952 --> 00:10:08.586
  • DO IT THEIR WAY.WHEN YOU HAVE BIBLICAL
  • 00:10:08.586 --> 00:10:09.421
  • WHEN YOU HAVE BIBLICALCHRISTIANITY YOU GET LOTS
  • 00:10:09.421 --> 00:10:10.488
  • CHRISTIANITY YOU GET LOTSOF CHOICES.
  • 00:10:10.488 --> 00:10:11.489
  • OF CHOICES.- ERIC: THAT'S WHAT I
  • 00:10:11.489 --> 00:10:12.657
  • - ERIC: THAT'S WHAT IFIND INTERESTING IS THAT
  • 00:10:12.657 --> 00:10:14.459
  • FIND INTERESTING IS THATWITH THE FOUNDING
  • 00:10:14.459 --> 00:10:16.061
  • WITH THE FOUNDINGDOCUMENTS OF THE UNITED
  • 00:10:16.061 --> 00:10:16.928
  • DOCUMENTS OF THE UNITEDSTATES AS WITH THE BIBLE,
  • 00:10:16.928 --> 00:10:19.497
  • STATES AS WITH THE BIBLE,JUST BECAUSE IT STATES THE
  • 00:10:19.497 --> 00:10:21.099
  • JUST BECAUSE IT STATES THETRUTH DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE
  • 00:10:21.099 --> 00:10:23.535
  • TRUTH DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLEARE GOING TO LIVE IT OUT.
  • 00:10:23.535 --> 00:10:24.402
  • ARE GOING TO LIVE IT OUT.WE HAD CHATTEL SLAVERY IN
  • 00:10:24.402 --> 00:10:26.538
  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE
  • 00:10:27.806 --> 00:10:28.373
  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEFOUNDERS WERE ALL IN FAVOR
  • 00:10:28.373 --> 00:10:30.308
  • FOUNDERS WERE ALL IN FAVOROF CHATTEL SLAVERY.
  • 00:10:30.308 --> 00:10:32.110
  • OF CHATTEL SLAVERY.IN OTHER WORDS, WE SEEM TO
  • 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:34.179
  • IN OTHER WORDS, WE SEEM TOHAVE TO EVOLVE THROUGH
  • 00:10:34.179 --> 00:10:36.548
  • HAVE TO EVOLVE THROUGHSOME OF THESE PERIODS, AND
  • 00:10:36.548 --> 00:10:38.216
  • SOME OF THESE PERIODS, ANDSO EVEN WHEN I THINK OF
  • 00:10:38.216 --> 00:10:39.017
  • SO EVEN WHEN I THINK OFLUTHER, THE MAN WHO IN
  • 00:10:39.017 --> 00:10:40.885
  • LUTHER, THE MAN WHO INSOME WAYS LED TO RELIGIOUS
  • 00:10:40.885 --> 00:10:42.687
  • SOME WAYS LED TO RELIGIOUSLIBERTY, HE DID NOT
  • 00:10:42.687 --> 00:10:43.988
  • LIBERTY, HE DID NOTUNDERSTAND RELIGIOUS
  • 00:10:43.988 --> 00:10:46.091
  • UNDERSTAND RELIGIOUSLIBERTY HIMSELF.
  • 00:10:46.091 --> 00:10:46.624
  • LIBERTY HIMSELF.WE ARE GOING TO GO TO A
  • 00:10:46.624 --> 00:10:47.792
  • WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ABREAK.
  • 00:10:47.792 --> 00:10:48.793
  • BREAK.I'M TALKING TO DAVID AND
  • 00:10:48.793 --> 00:10:49.427
  • I'M TALKING TO DAVID ANDTIM BARTON WITH
  • 00:10:49.427 --> 00:10:50.495
  • TIM BARTON WITHWALLBUILDERS,
  • 00:10:50.495 --> 00:10:52.363
  • ♪ MUSIC ♪
  • 00:10:55.390 --> 00:10:55.890
  • ♪ MUSIC ♪- ERIC: FOLKS,
  • 00:10:55.890 --> 00:10:57.459
  • - ERIC: FOLKS,I'M TALKING TO DAVID
  • 00:10:57.459 --> 00:10:59.394
  • I'M TALKING TO DAVIDBARTON OF WALLBUILDERS AND
  • 00:10:59.394 --> 00:11:01.229
  • BARTON OF WALLBUILDERS ANDHIS SON, TIM BARTON, ALSO
  • 00:11:01.229 --> 00:11:02.564
  • HIS SON, TIM BARTON, ALSOOF WALLBUILDERS, AND WE'RE
  • 00:11:02.564 --> 00:11:04.065
  • OF WALLBUILDERS, AND WE'RETALKING ABOUT THE ROOTS OF
  • 00:11:04.065 --> 00:11:06.534
  • TALKING ABOUT THE ROOTS OFCHRISTIAN FAITH IN THE
  • 00:11:06.534 --> 00:11:08.903
  • CHRISTIAN FAITH IN THEUNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
  • 00:11:08.903 --> 00:11:09.471
  • UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.I WAS JUST SAYING TO BOTH
  • 00:11:09.471 --> 00:11:11.039
  • I WAS JUST SAYING TO BOTHOF YOU, WHAT'S
  • 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:11.739
  • OF YOU, WHAT'SINTERESTING, JUST BECAUSE
  • 00:11:11.739 --> 00:11:13.808
  • INTERESTING, JUST BECAUSESOMETHING'S TRUE DOES NOT
  • 00:11:13.808 --> 00:11:15.210
  • SOMETHING'S TRUE DOES NOTMEAN THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM
  • 00:11:15.210 --> 00:11:16.845
  • MEAN THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIMTO BE CHRISTIANS OR CLAIM
  • 00:11:16.845 --> 00:11:17.879
  • TO BE CHRISTIANS OR CLAIMTO BE PRO AMERICAN ARE
  • 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.180
  • TO BE PRO AMERICAN AREGOING TO LIVE OUT WHAT
  • 00:11:19.180 --> 00:11:21.516
  • GOING TO LIVE OUT WHATTHEY SHOULD BE LIVING OUT,
  • 00:11:21.516 --> 00:11:23.518
  • WE HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
  • 00:11:24.752 --> 00:11:25.220
  • WE HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.SAYING THE FOUNDING
  • 00:11:25.220 --> 00:11:26.121
  • SAYING THE FOUNDINGDOCUMENTS WERE A PROMISSORY
  • 00:11:26.121 --> 00:11:27.255
  • DOCUMENTS WERE A PROMISSORYNOTE.
  • 00:11:27.255 --> 00:11:27.789
  • NOTE.THEY DIDN'T INSTANTLY
  • 00:11:27.789 --> 00:11:29.791
  • THEY DIDN'T INSTANTLYDELIVER INTO HISTORY WHAT
  • 00:11:29.791 --> 00:11:31.226
  • DELIVER INTO HISTORY WHATTHEY EVENTUALLY WOULD
  • 00:11:31.226 --> 00:11:33.628
  • THEY EVENTUALLY WOULDDELIVER, AND NEITHER DID
  • 00:11:33.628 --> 00:11:34.863
  • DELIVER, AND NEITHER DIDTHE BIBLE IN THE SENSE
  • 00:11:34.863 --> 00:11:36.498
  • THE BIBLE IN THE SENSETHAT YOU HAVE 1500 YEARS
  • 00:11:36.498 --> 00:11:38.199
  • THAT YOU HAVE 1500 YEARSOF COERCED CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:11:38.199 --> 00:11:39.267
  • OF COERCED CHRISTIANITY.THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH,
  • 00:11:39.267 --> 00:11:40.335
  • THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH,THE EASTERN ORTHODOX
  • 00:11:40.335 --> 00:11:41.469
  • THE EASTERN ORTHODOXCHURCH, THEY WEREN'T
  • 00:11:41.469 --> 00:11:42.637
  • CHURCH, THEY WEREN'TSAYING, HEY, PEOPLE CAN DO
  • 00:11:42.637 --> 00:11:43.204
  • SAYING, HEY, PEOPLE CAN DOWHAT THEY WANT.
  • 00:11:43.204 --> 00:11:44.906
  • WHAT THEY WANT.EVEN LUTHER WHEN HE ENDS
  • 00:11:44.906 --> 00:11:47.008
  • EVEN LUTHER WHEN HE ENDSTHE ROMAN CATHOLIC
  • 00:11:47.008 --> 00:11:49.677
  • THE ROMAN CATHOLICMONOPOLY, HE DOES THE SAME
  • 00:11:49.677 --> 00:11:50.512
  • MONOPOLY, HE DOES THE SAMETHING HIMSELF, AND HE
  • 00:11:50.512 --> 00:11:52.547
  • THING HIMSELF, AND HEFORCES PEOPLE, IF YOU ARE
  • 00:11:52.547 --> 00:11:53.281
  • FORCES PEOPLE, IF YOU ARENOT GOING TO BE CATHOLIC,
  • 00:11:53.281 --> 00:11:54.849
  • NOT GOING TO BE CATHOLIC,YOU HAVE TO BE EVANGELICAL
  • 00:11:54.849 --> 00:11:56.251
  • YOU HAVE TO BE EVANGELICALLUTHERAN.
  • 00:11:56.251 --> 00:11:56.784
  • LUTHERAN.WE ARE GOING TO USE THE
  • 00:11:56.784 --> 00:11:57.685
  • WE ARE GOING TO USE THEFORCE OF THE SWORD AND THE
  • 00:11:57.685 --> 00:11:59.854
  • WE KNOW THAT'S' WRONG AND
  • 00:12:01.055 --> 00:12:01.589
  • WE KNOW THAT'S' WRONG ANDIT TOOK ITS TIME TO WORK
  • 00:12:01.589 --> 00:12:02.690
  • IT TOOK ITS TIME TO WORKITS WAY OUT THROUGH
  • 00:12:02.690 --> 00:12:03.925
  • ITS WAY OUT THROUGHHISTORY.
  • 00:12:03.925 --> 00:12:04.893
  • HISTORY.BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO
  • 00:12:04.893 --> 00:12:05.894
  • BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO1776, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,
  • 00:12:05.894 --> 00:12:08.196
  • 1776, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,THOSE CHRISTIAN ELEMENTS
  • 00:12:08.196 --> 00:12:09.731
  • THOSE CHRISTIAN ELEMENTSHAVE WORKED THEMSELVES
  • 00:12:09.731 --> 00:12:10.965
  • HAVE WORKED THEMSELVESINTO HISTORY, AND THAT'S
  • 00:12:10.965 --> 00:12:12.200
  • INTO HISTORY, AND THAT'SONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS
  • 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:13.201
  • ONE OF THE REASONS THIS ISTHE GREATEST AND FREEST
  • 00:12:13.201 --> 00:12:14.302
  • THE GREATEST AND FREESTCOUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
  • 00:12:14.302 --> 00:12:16.905
  • COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I
  • 00:12:16.905 --> 00:12:17.672
  • AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IBELIEVE.
  • 00:12:17.672 --> 00:12:18.239
  • BELIEVE.- DAVID: AND YOU SEE THAT
  • 00:12:18.239 --> 00:12:19.707
  • - DAVID: AND YOU SEE THATTHROUGHOUT HISTORY, AND
  • 00:12:19.707 --> 00:12:20.742
  • THROUGHOUT HISTORY, ANDYOU ARE RIGHT.
  • 00:12:20.742 --> 00:12:21.276
  • YOU ARE RIGHT.THERE IS A PROGRESSION.
  • 00:12:21.276 --> 00:12:22.143
  • THERE IS A PROGRESSION.THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:12:22.143 --> 00:12:23.545
  • THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGSPEOPLE A LOT OF TIMES
  • 00:12:23.545 --> 00:12:25.146
  • PEOPLE A LOT OF TIMESDON'T GET WITH THE
  • 00:12:25.146 --> 00:12:25.813
  • DON'T GET WITH THECANCEL CULTURE AND THE
  • 00:12:25.813 --> 00:12:26.381
  • CANCEL CULTURE AND THESTATUES TODAY.
  • 00:12:26.381 --> 00:12:27.015
  • STATUES TODAY.IF YOU GO BACK TO GENESIS 6
  • 00:12:27.015 --> 00:12:28.449
  • IF YOU GO BACK TO GENESIS 6WHEN THE WORLD IS SO
  • 00:12:28.449 --> 00:12:29.817
  • WHEN THE WORLD IS SOGOOFED UP, IT IS SO BAD,
  • 00:12:29.817 --> 00:12:31.019
  • GOOFED UP, IT IS SO BAD,GOD SAYS, ALL RIGHT, I'M
  • 00:12:31.019 --> 00:12:34.656
  • GOD SAYS, ALL RIGHT, I'MGOING TO DESTROY THIS.
  • 00:12:34.656 --> 00:12:35.657
  • GOING TO DESTROY THIS.WE ARE GOING TO START
  • 00:12:35.657 --> 00:12:36.057
  • WE ARE GOING TO STARTAGAIN.
  • 00:12:36.057 --> 00:12:36.624
  • AGAIN.I'M GOING TO TAKE NOAH AND
  • 00:12:36.624 --> 00:12:37.325
  • I'M GOING TO TAKE NOAH ANDHIS THREE SONS AND THEIR
  • 00:12:37.325 --> 00:12:37.992
  • HIS THREE SONS AND THEIRWIVES AND WE ARE DOING
  • 00:12:37.992 --> 00:12:39.761
  • WIVES AND WE ARE DOINGTHIS OVER.
  • 00:12:39.761 --> 00:12:40.395
  • THIS OVER.IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE
  • 00:12:40.395 --> 00:12:42.163
  • IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEBIBLE TELLS US IN GENESIS
  • 00:12:42.163 --> 00:12:43.998
  • BIBLE TELLS US IN GENESIS6:9 THAT NOAH WAS A
  • 00:12:43.998 --> 00:12:46.434
  • 6:9 THAT NOAH WAS ARIGHTEOUS MAN.
  • 00:12:46.434 --> 00:12:48.169
  • RIGHTEOUS MAN.THE NEXT PHRASE SAYS, "IN
  • 00:12:48.169 --> 00:12:49.470
  • THE NEXT PHRASE SAYS, "INHIS GENERATION." BECAUSE
  • 00:12:49.470 --> 00:12:51.206
  • HIS GENERATION." BECAUSEIF YOU LOOK, NOAH HAD
  • 00:12:51.206 --> 00:12:53.241
  • IF YOU LOOK, NOAH HADPROBLEM WITH PUBLIC
  • 00:12:53.241 --> 00:12:54.042
  • PROBLEM WITH PUBLICDRUNKENNESS.
  • 00:12:54.042 --> 00:12:54.976
  • DRUNKENNESS.WE SEE THAT IN THE BIBLE.
  • 00:12:54.976 --> 00:12:56.911
  • WE SEE THAT IN THE BIBLE.WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIM AND
  • 00:12:56.911 --> 00:12:59.180
  • WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIM ANDHIS SONS, THAT MAY NOT BE
  • 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:00.048
  • HIS SONS, THAT MAY NOT BEACCEPTABLE TODAY.
  • 00:13:00.048 --> 00:13:01.416
  • ACCEPTABLE TODAY.BUT, OH, MY GOSH, WHEN YOU
  • 00:13:01.416 --> 00:13:02.417
  • BUT, OH, MY GOSH, WHEN YOULOOK AT WHERE NOAH WAS
  • 00:13:02.417 --> 00:13:02.984
  • LOOK AT WHERE NOAH WASCOMPARED TO HIS
  • 00:13:02.984 --> 00:13:05.420
  • COMPARED TO HISGENERATION, WHEN THEY ARE
  • 00:13:05.420 --> 00:13:06.254
  • GENERATION, WHEN THEY AREKILLING AND RAPING AND
  • 00:13:06.254 --> 00:13:07.021
  • KILLING AND RAPING ANDSTEALING, NOAH WAS A
  • 00:13:07.021 --> 00:13:10.158
  • THAT'S WHAT SO MANY OF THE
  • 00:13:11.893 --> 00:13:12.994
  • THAT'S WHAT SO MANY OF THESTATUES ARE.
  • 00:13:12.994 --> 00:13:13.528
  • STATUES ARE.THEY'RE NOT PERFECT BUT
  • 00:13:13.528 --> 00:13:14.429
  • THEY'RE NOT PERFECT BUTWHEN YOU COMPARE THEM TO
  • 00:13:14.429 --> 00:13:15.096
  • WHEN YOU COMPARE THEM TOWHAT THE CULTURE WAS THEN
  • 00:13:15.096 --> 00:13:16.231
  • WHAT THE CULTURE WAS THENAND HOW THEY MOVED THE
  • 00:13:16.231 --> 00:13:17.198
  • AND HOW THEY MOVED THECULTURE FORWARD, IT IS A
  • 00:13:17.198 --> 00:13:18.666
  • CULTURE FORWARD, IT IS APROGRESSION OVER TIME.
  • 00:13:18.666 --> 00:13:19.467
  • PROGRESSION OVER TIME.- TIM: ONE OF THE THINGS
  • 00:13:19.467 --> 00:13:20.902
  • - TIM: ONE OF THE THINGSTHAT GETS LOST.
  • 00:13:20.902 --> 00:13:21.803
  • THAT GETS LOST.YOU WANT TO JUDGE PEOPLE
  • 00:13:21.803 --> 00:13:22.804
  • YOU WANT TO JUDGE PEOPLEIN THE CONTEXT OF THE TIME
  • 00:13:22.804 --> 00:13:23.338
  • IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TIMEWHICH THEY LIVED.
  • 00:13:23.338 --> 00:13:24.472
  • WHICH THEY LIVED.SO NOAH WAS A GREAT
  • 00:13:24.472 --> 00:13:25.440
  • SO NOAH WAS A GREATEXAMPLE, BECAUSE
  • 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:26.841
  • EXAMPLE, BECAUSECERTAINLY, IF WE'RE
  • 00:13:26.841 --> 00:13:27.976
  • CERTAINLY, IF WE'RETALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:13:27.976 --> 00:13:29.177
  • TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHOWANT TO BE LEADERS IN OUR
  • 00:13:29.177 --> 00:13:29.944
  • WANT TO BE LEADERS IN OURCHURCH, WE PROBABLY DON'T
  • 00:13:29.944 --> 00:13:31.613
  • CHURCH, WE PROBABLY DON'TWANT PEOPLE THAT GET DRUNK
  • 00:13:31.613 --> 00:13:32.513
  • WANT PEOPLE THAT GET DRUNKAND PASS OUT FROM THEIR
  • 00:13:32.513 --> 00:13:33.147
  • AND PASS OUT FROM THEIRDRUNKENNESS.
  • 00:13:33.147 --> 00:13:35.750
  • DRUNKENNESS.THERE ARE COMPONENTS LIKE,
  • 00:13:35.750 --> 00:13:36.718
  • THERE ARE COMPONENTS LIKE,YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT
  • 00:13:36.718 --> 00:13:37.518
  • YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY NOTREALLY A GOOD THING,
  • 00:13:37.518 --> 00:13:38.653
  • REALLY A GOOD THING,EXCEPT YOU JUDGE THEM IN
  • 00:13:38.653 --> 00:13:39.554
  • EXCEPT YOU JUDGE THEM INTHE CONTEXT OF THE TIME IN
  • 00:13:39.554 --> 00:13:40.154
  • THE CONTEXT OF THE TIME INWHICH THEY LIVED.
  • 00:13:40.154 --> 00:13:43.157
  • WHICH THEY LIVED.LOOKING AT PEOPLE AND
  • 00:13:43.157 --> 00:13:44.025
  • LOOKING AT PEOPLE ANDSTATUES, STATUES ARE BEING
  • 00:13:44.025 --> 00:13:45.126
  • STATUES, STATUES ARE BEINGTORN DOWN, ONE OF THE
  • 00:13:45.126 --> 00:13:46.194
  • TORN DOWN, ONE OF THESIGNIFICANT THINGS TO NOTE
  • 00:13:46.194 --> 00:13:47.395
  • SIGNIFICANT THINGS TO NOTEABOUT THEM, THE REASON
  • 00:13:47.395 --> 00:13:48.630
  • ABOUT THEM, THE REASONTHEY ARE ON STATUES IN THE
  • 00:13:48.630 --> 00:13:49.530
  • THEY ARE ON STATUES IN THEFIRST PLACE IS BECAUSE
  • 00:13:49.530 --> 00:13:50.365
  • FIRST PLACE IS BECAUSETHEY DID SOMETHING
  • 00:13:50.365 --> 00:13:50.965
  • THEY DID SOMETHINGSIGNIFICANT, WORTHY OF
  • 00:13:50.965 --> 00:13:51.466
  • SIGNIFICANT, WORTHY OFNOTICE.
  • 00:13:51.466 --> 00:13:52.500
  • NOTICE.THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF
  • 00:13:52.500 --> 00:13:54.602
  • THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OFEXCEPTIONS.
  • 00:13:54.602 --> 00:13:55.770
  • EXCEPTIONS.MAYBE A STATUE WAS PUT UP
  • 00:13:55.770 --> 00:13:56.471
  • MAYBE A STATUE WAS PUT UPIN PROTEST TO SOMETHING
  • 00:13:56.471 --> 00:13:58.172
  • IN PROTEST TO SOMETHINGGOING ON.
  • 00:13:58.172 --> 00:13:58.773
  • GOING ON.MAYBE THERE ARE A COUPLE
  • 00:13:58.773 --> 00:13:59.374
  • MAYBE THERE ARE A COUPLEOF CONFEDERATE STATUES THAT
  • 00:13:59.374 --> 00:14:00.308
  • OF CONFEDERATE STATUES THATFALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
  • 00:14:00.308 --> 00:14:01.075
  • FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.BUT LARGELY SPEAKING, IF
  • 00:14:01.075 --> 00:14:02.710
  • BUT LARGELY SPEAKING, IFTHEY ARE ON A STATUE,
  • 00:14:02.710 --> 00:14:03.611
  • THEY ARE ON A STATUE,THERE IS A REASON THEY DID
  • 00:14:03.611 --> 00:14:04.412
  • THERE IS A REASON THEY DIDSOMETHING TO GET
  • 00:14:04.412 --> 00:14:05.446
  • SOMETHING TO GETTHEMSELVES ON A STATUE.
  • 00:14:05.446 --> 00:14:06.080
  • THEMSELVES ON A STATUE.WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, VERY
  • 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:06.948
  • WHAT HAPPENS TODAY, VERYFEW PEOPLE KNOW THE FULL
  • 00:14:06.948 --> 00:14:10.184
  • MUCH LESS THE CONTEXT IN
  • 00:14:11.352 --> 00:14:12.020
  • MUCH LESS THE CONTEXT INWHICH THAT INDIVIDUAL
  • 00:14:12.020 --> 00:14:13.087
  • WHICH THAT INDIVIDUALLIVED.
  • 00:14:13.087 --> 00:14:15.923
  • LIVED.SO WE SAY, WAIT A SECOND.
  • 00:14:15.923 --> 00:14:16.457
  • SO WE SAY, WAIT A SECOND.THIS PERSON DID A BAD
  • 00:14:16.457 --> 00:14:16.991
  • THIS PERSON DID A BADTHING, EVEN THOUGH THAT
  • 00:14:16.991 --> 00:14:17.558
  • THING, EVEN THOUGH THATBAD THING WE CAN
  • 00:14:17.558 --> 00:14:18.159
  • BAD THING WE CANACKNOWLEDGE WAS BAD, MIGHT
  • 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:19.460
  • ACKNOWLEDGE WAS BAD, MIGHTHAVE BEEN CULTURALLY
  • 00:14:19.460 --> 00:14:20.762
  • HAVE BEEN CULTURALLYACCEPTED IN THE TIME IN
  • 00:14:20.762 --> 00:14:22.830
  • ACCEPTED IN THE TIME INWHICH THEY LIVED, AND SO
  • 00:14:22.830 --> 00:14:23.731
  • WHICH THEY LIVED, AND SOTO SAY THEY WEREN'T
  • 00:14:23.731 --> 00:14:24.232
  • TO SAY THEY WEREN'TENLIGHTENED ENOUGH.
  • 00:14:24.232 --> 00:14:25.300
  • ENLIGHTENED ENOUGH.IF THEY WERE JUST LIKE THE
  • 00:14:25.300 --> 00:14:26.134
  • IF THEY WERE JUST LIKE THEPEOPLE AROUND THEM BUT
  • 00:14:26.134 --> 00:14:27.168
  • PEOPLE AROUND THEM BUTTHEY WERE MORE
  • 00:14:27.168 --> 00:14:29.570
  • THEY WERE MOREEXCEPTIONAL, OR POINTED IN
  • 00:14:29.570 --> 00:14:31.172
  • EXCEPTIONAL, OR POINTED INA NEW DIRECTION WHERE
  • 00:14:31.172 --> 00:14:32.407
  • A NEW DIRECTION WHERENOBODY ELSE WAS POINTING,
  • 00:14:32.407 --> 00:14:33.007
  • NOBODY ELSE WAS POINTING,FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 00:14:33.007 --> 00:14:33.641
  • FOR EXAMPLE,THOMAS JEFFERSON.
  • 00:14:33.641 --> 00:14:34.242
  • THOMAS JEFFERSON.WHEN JEFFERSON DOES A
  • 00:14:34.242 --> 00:14:35.176
  • WHEN JEFFERSON DOES ADRAFT OF THE DECLARATION
  • 00:14:35.176 --> 00:14:35.977
  • DRAFT OF THE DECLARATIONOF INDEPENDENCE HIS
  • 00:14:35.977 --> 00:14:37.245
  • OF INDEPENDENCE HISORIGINAL DRAFT, PEOPLE
  • 00:14:37.245 --> 00:14:37.812
  • ORIGINAL DRAFT, PEOPLESHOULD GO BACK AND READ
  • 00:14:37.812 --> 00:14:38.846
  • SHOULD GO BACK AND READTHAT.
  • 00:14:38.846 --> 00:14:39.380
  • THAT.IF YOU GO BACK AND READ
  • 00:14:39.380 --> 00:14:40.982
  • IF YOU GO BACK AND READTHAT, HE HAS A GRIEVANCE.
  • 00:14:40.982 --> 00:14:41.683
  • THAT, HE HAS A GRIEVANCE.IT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST
  • 00:14:41.683 --> 00:14:42.650
  • IT IS ONE OF THE LARGESTGRIEVANCES IN THAT
  • 00:14:42.650 --> 00:14:43.618
  • GRIEVANCES IN THATDECLARATION WHERE HE
  • 00:14:43.618 --> 00:14:44.952
  • DECLARATION WHERE HEEXPLAINS THAT WE HAVE
  • 00:14:44.952 --> 00:14:46.454
  • EXPLAINS THAT WE HAVETRIED TO END SLAVERY IN
  • 00:14:46.454 --> 00:14:47.922
  • TRIED TO END SLAVERY INMANY OF OUR COLONIES, AND
  • 00:14:47.922 --> 00:14:49.123
  • MANY OF OUR COLONIES, ANDTHE KING HAS VETOED THOSE
  • 00:14:49.123 --> 00:14:50.892
  • THE KING HAS VETOED THOSELAWS.
  • 00:14:50.892 --> 00:14:51.426
  • LAWS.WE TRIED TO STOP THE SLAVE
  • 00:14:51.426 --> 00:14:52.160
  • WE TRIED TO STOP THE SLAVETRADE.
  • 00:14:52.160 --> 00:14:53.394
  • TRADE.THIS KING WHO PROFESSES TO
  • 00:14:53.394 --> 00:14:55.063
  • THIS KING WHO PROFESSES TOBE A CHRISTIAN, HE KIDNAPS
  • 00:14:55.063 --> 00:14:56.931
  • BE A CHRISTIAN, HE KIDNAPSPEOPLE FROM ANOTHER LAND
  • 00:14:56.931 --> 00:14:58.199
  • PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER LANDTHAT NEVER OFFENDED HIM,
  • 00:14:58.199 --> 00:14:59.867
  • THAT NEVER OFFENDED HIM,AND HE BRINGS THEM TO OUR
  • 00:14:59.867 --> 00:15:00.401
  • AND HE BRINGS THEM TO OURSHORES AND HE FORCES THEM
  • 00:15:00.401 --> 00:15:01.469
  • SHORES AND HE FORCES THEMON US, AND WE ARE
  • 00:15:01.469 --> 00:15:02.370
  • ON US, AND WE AREPENALIZED FOR IT, AND WE
  • 00:15:02.370 --> 00:15:03.371
  • PENALIZED FOR IT, AND WEWANT TO PUT A STOP TO
  • 00:15:03.371 --> 00:15:05.506
  • WANT TO PUT A STOP TOTHIS.
  • 00:15:05.506 --> 00:15:06.074
  • THIS.AND JEFFERSON WRITES THIS
  • 00:15:06.074 --> 00:15:06.808
  • AND JEFFERSON WRITES THISLONG GRIEVANCE ABOUT
  • 00:15:06.808 --> 00:15:09.043
  • LONG GRIEVANCE ABOUTWANTING TO END SLAVERY AND
  • 00:15:09.043 --> 00:15:09.510
  • WANTING TO END SLAVERY ANDTHE SLAVE TRADE IN
  • 00:15:09.510 --> 00:15:10.178
  • THE SLAVE TRADE INAMERICA.
  • 00:15:10.178 --> 00:15:11.379
  • AMERICA.WHEN THAT DECLARATION IS
  • 00:15:11.379 --> 00:15:12.146
  • WHEN THAT DECLARATION ISPRESENTED BEFORE THE
  • 00:15:12.146 --> 00:15:12.680
  • PRESENTED BEFORE THECONTINENTAL CONGRESS,
  • 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:13.715
  • CONTINENTAL CONGRESS,JEFFERSON WRITES THAT MUCH
  • 00:15:13.715 --> 00:15:15.650
  • JEFFERSON WRITES THAT MUCHTO HIS REGRET, THERE WERE
  • 00:15:15.650 --> 00:15:17.118
  • TO HIS REGRET, THERE WERETWO STATES WHO DID NOT
  • 00:15:17.118 --> 00:15:18.486
  • TWO STATES WHO DID NOTSUPPORT THE MEASURE.
  • 00:15:18.486 --> 00:15:20.321
  • SUPPORT THE MEASURE.AT THE TIME THOSE STATES
  • 00:15:20.321 --> 00:15:21.189
  • AT THE TIME THOSE STATESWERE SOUTH CAROLINA AND
  • 00:15:21.189 --> 00:15:21.789
  • WERE SOUTH CAROLINA ANDGEORGIA.
  • 00:15:21.789 --> 00:15:22.924
  • GEORGIA.AND JEFFERSON SAYS THAT IF
  • 00:15:22.924 --> 00:15:25.727
  • AND JEFFERSON SAYS THAT IFTHOSE TWO STATES WOULD
  • 00:15:25.727 --> 00:15:27.128
  • THOSE TWO STATES WOULDHAVE SUPPORTED IT, WE
  • 00:15:27.128 --> 00:15:27.628
  • HAVE SUPPORTED IT, WECOULD HAVE SOLVED THIS
  • 00:15:27.628 --> 00:15:28.363
  • COULD HAVE SOLVED THISPROBLEM.
  • 00:15:28.363 --> 00:15:29.397
  • PROBLEM.JOHN HANCOCK WHO WAS THE
  • 00:15:29.397 --> 00:15:30.264
  • JOHN HANCOCK WHO WAS THEPRESIDENT OF CONGRESS
  • 00:15:30.264 --> 00:15:31.132
  • PRESIDENT OF CONGRESSSAID, THEY ARE ONLY GOING
  • 00:15:31.132 --> 00:15:31.966
  • SAID, THEY ARE ONLY GOINGTO PUT IN THE DECLARATION
  • 00:15:31.966 --> 00:15:33.101
  • TO PUT IN THE DECLARATIONWHAT EVERYBODY AGREES TO
  • 00:15:33.101 --> 00:15:34.402
  • WHAT EVERYBODY AGREES TOBECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE A
  • 00:15:34.402 --> 00:15:35.636
  • BECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO BE AUNANIMOUS DECLARATION SO
  • 00:15:35.636 --> 00:15:38.072
  • UNANIMOUS DECLARATION SOWE CAN BE TOTALLY UNITED.
  • 00:15:38.072 --> 00:15:39.006
  • WE CAN BE TOTALLY UNITED.THE POINT IS, MOST PEOPLE
  • 00:15:39.006 --> 00:15:40.441
  • THE POINT IS, MOST PEOPLEHAVE NO IDEA THAT
  • 00:15:40.441 --> 00:15:41.476
  • HAVE NO IDEA THATJEFFERSON EVER DID
  • 00:15:41.476 --> 00:15:43.010
  • JEFFERSON EVER DIDANYTHING ANTI SLAVERY OR
  • 00:15:43.010 --> 00:15:44.579
  • ANYTHING ANTI SLAVERY ORGEORGE WASHINGTON, THAT HE
  • 00:15:44.579 --> 00:15:46.080
  • GEORGE WASHINGTON, THAT HEDID ANTI SLAVERY THINGS.
  • 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:47.782
  • DID ANTI SLAVERY THINGS.THEY DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE
  • 00:15:47.782 --> 00:15:48.816
  • THEY DON'T KNOW THE WHOLESTORY, OR THE FACT THAT
  • 00:15:48.816 --> 00:15:50.618
  • STORY, OR THE FACT THATTHE REASON GEORGE
  • 00:15:50.618 --> 00:15:51.319
  • THE REASON GEORGEWASHINGTON IS ON MONUMENTS
  • 00:15:51.319 --> 00:15:52.320
  • WASHINGTON IS ON MONUMENTSIS BECAUSE HE WAS THE
  • 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:53.254
  • IS BECAUSE HE WAS THEFATHER OF THE COUNTRY.
  • 00:15:53.254 --> 00:15:54.555
  • FATHER OF THE COUNTRY.WHAT HE DID AS COMMANDER
  • 00:15:54.555 --> 00:15:55.123
  • WHAT HE DID AS COMMANDEROF THE MILITARY IN THE
  • 00:15:55.123 --> 00:15:56.657
  • OF THE MILITARY IN THEREVOLUTION OR CONSTITUTION
  • 00:15:56.657 --> 00:15:57.892
  • REVOLUTION OR CONSTITUTIONCONVENTION, WHEN HE IS THE
  • 00:15:57.892 --> 00:15:59.060
  • CONVENTION, WHEN HE IS THEGUY LEADING THAT
  • 00:15:59.060 --> 00:15:59.994
  • GUY LEADING THATCONVENTION WAS THE FIRST
  • 00:15:59.994 --> 00:16:01.396
  • CONVENTION WAS THE FIRSTPRESIDENT, WHEN HE SAYS
  • 00:16:01.396 --> 00:16:03.131
  • PRESIDENT, WHEN HE SAYSWHAT A IT'S WHAT A
  • 00:16:03.131 --> 00:16:03.698
  • WHAT A IT'S WHAT APRESIDENT DOES, HE
  • 00:16:03.698 --> 00:16:05.199
  • PRESIDENT DOES, HEPEACEFULLY TRANSFERS POWER
  • 00:16:05.199 --> 00:16:06.234
  • PEACEFULLY TRANSFERS POWERAFTER TWO TERMS AND STEPS
  • 00:16:06.234 --> 00:16:09.170
  • AFTER TWO TERMS AND STEPSDOWN.
  • 00:16:09.170 --> 00:16:10.905
  • DOWN.HE WAS AN AMAZING LEADER.
  • 00:16:10.905 --> 00:16:11.539
  • HE WAS AN AMAZING LEADER.THE REASON HE WAS HONORED
  • 00:16:11.539 --> 00:16:13.307
  • THE REASON HE WAS HONOREDWAS NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A
  • 00:16:13.307 --> 00:16:14.475
  • WAS NOT BECAUSE HE WAS APERFECT MAN, RATHER, HE
  • 00:16:14.475 --> 00:16:16.077
  • PERFECT MAN, RATHER, HEWAS HONORED BECAUSE HE DID
  • 00:16:16.077 --> 00:16:18.045
  • WAS HONORED BECAUSE HE DIDVERY HONORABLE THINGS,
  • 00:16:18.045 --> 00:16:19.847
  • VERY HONORABLE THINGS,EVEN THOUGH HE WAS NOT A
  • 00:16:19.847 --> 00:16:20.782
  • EVEN THOUGH HE WAS NOT APERFECT MAN.
  • 00:16:20.782 --> 00:16:21.482
  • PERFECT MAN.AND WHEN WE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:16:21.482 --> 00:16:22.450
  • AND WHEN WE DON'T KNOWTHEIR STORIES, AND WE
  • 00:16:22.450 --> 00:16:23.184
  • THEIR STORIES, AND WEDON'T JUDGE THEM IN THE
  • 00:16:23.184 --> 00:16:24.519
  • DON'T JUDGE THEM IN THECONTEXT OF THE TIME IN
  • 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:25.453
  • CONTEXT OF THE TIME INWHICH THEY LIVED, IT'S
  • 00:16:25.453 --> 00:16:26.487
  • WHICH THEY LIVED, IT'SEASY TO POINT AND GO, THEY
  • 00:16:26.487 --> 00:16:27.455
  • EASY TO POINT AND GO, THEYWEREN'T PERFECT, THEREFORE
  • 00:16:27.455 --> 00:16:28.990
  • WEREN'T PERFECT, THEREFOREWE SHOULDN'T CELEBRATES
  • 00:16:28.990 --> 00:16:29.824
  • WE SHOULDN'T CELEBRATESTHEM, FORGETTING THE
  • 00:16:29.824 --> 00:16:31.459
  • THEM, FORGETTING THEBIBLICAL STANDARD THAT
  • 00:16:31.459 --> 00:16:33.428
  • BIBLICAL STANDARD THATSAYS, ALL HAVE SINNED AND
  • 00:16:33.428 --> 00:16:34.829
  • SAYS, ALL HAVE SINNED ANDFALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY
  • 00:16:34.829 --> 00:16:35.430
  • FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORYOF GOD, MEANING NOBODY IS
  • 00:16:35.430 --> 00:16:36.631
  • OF GOD, MEANING NOBODY ISPERFECT.
  • 00:16:36.631 --> 00:16:38.332
  • PERFECT.EVERYBODY'S MESSED UP AND
  • 00:16:38.332 --> 00:16:40.535
  • EVERYBODY'S MESSED UP ANDNEEDS A SAVIOR.
  • 00:16:40.535 --> 00:16:41.068
  • NEEDS A SAVIOR.WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE
  • 00:16:41.068 --> 00:16:42.737
  • WHAT THAT MEANS IS WESHOULDN'T SIMPLY JUDGE PEOPLE
  • 00:16:42.737 --> 00:16:43.604
  • SHOULDN'T SIMPLY JUDGE PEOPLEIN HISTORY BY HOW PERFECT
  • 00:16:43.604 --> 00:16:44.639
  • IN HISTORY BY HOW PERFECTTHEY WERE OR WERE NOT,
  • 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.307
  • THEY WERE OR WERE NOT,WE JUDGE THEM BY THE
  • 00:16:46.307 --> 00:16:47.875
  • WE JUDGE THEM BY THECONTRIBUTIONS THEY MADE,
  • 00:16:47.875 --> 00:16:49.444
  • CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MADE,AND JUDGE THEM IN THE
  • 00:16:49.444 --> 00:16:50.978
  • AND JUDGE THEM IN THECONTEXT OF THE CULTURE
  • 00:16:50.978 --> 00:16:53.581
  • CONTEXT OF THE CULTUREWHICH THEY LIVED.
  • 00:16:53.581 --> 00:16:54.048
  • WHICH THEY LIVED.WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
  • 00:16:54.048 --> 00:16:54.882
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEFOUNDING FATHERS, WHEN
  • 00:16:54.882 --> 00:16:55.883
  • FOUNDING FATHERS, WHENSLAVERY WAS A LEGAL AND
  • 00:16:55.883 --> 00:16:57.051
  • SLAVERY WAS A LEGAL ANDPROMOTED INSTITUTION, THE
  • 00:16:57.051 --> 00:16:58.853
  • PROMOTED INSTITUTION, THEFACT THAT ANY FOUNDING
  • 00:16:58.853 --> 00:17:00.254
  • FACT THAT ANY FOUNDINGFATHERS WOULD BE ANTI
  • 00:17:00.254 --> 00:17:01.689
  • FATHERS WOULD BE ANTISLAVERY MEANS THEY WERE
  • 00:17:01.689 --> 00:17:02.824
  • SLAVERY MEANS THEY WEREDOING SOMETHING VERY
  • 00:17:02.824 --> 00:17:05.226
  • DOING SOMETHING VERYHONORABLE AT A TIME WHEN
  • 00:17:05.226 --> 00:17:06.260
  • HONORABLE AT A TIME WHENTHAT WAS WIDELY ACCEPTED.
  • 00:17:06.260 --> 00:17:08.296
  • THAT WAS WIDELY ACCEPTED.- DAVID: PEOPLE TODAY DON'T
  • 00:17:08.296 --> 00:17:09.831
  • - DAVID: PEOPLE TODAY DON'TSEEM TO REALIZE THE WHOLE
  • 00:17:09.831 --> 00:17:11.165
  • SEEM TO REALIZE THE WHOLEMOVEMENT TO ABOLISH
  • 00:17:11.165 --> 00:17:12.667
  • MOVEMENT TO ABOLISHSLAVERY IS A RELATIVELY
  • 00:17:12.667 --> 00:17:13.768
  • SLAVERY IS A RELATIVELYRECENT MOVEMENT.
  • 00:17:13.768 --> 00:17:16.537
  • RECENT MOVEMENT.THERE WAS NO LAW THAT
  • 00:17:16.537 --> 00:17:17.438
  • THERE WAS NO LAW THATBANNED THE SLAVE TRADE IN
  • 00:17:17.438 --> 00:17:18.639
  • BANNED THE SLAVE TRADE INTHE WORLD ANYWHERE IN THE
  • 00:17:18.639 --> 00:17:20.675
  • THE WORLD ANYWHERE IN THEWORLD BEFORE 1807.
  • 00:17:20.675 --> 00:17:21.742
  • WORLD BEFORE 1807.THAT MEANS EVERYWHERE IN
  • 00:17:21.742 --> 00:17:23.110
  • THAT MEANS EVERYWHERE INTHE WORLD SLAVE TRADE WAS
  • 00:17:23.110 --> 00:17:24.212
  • THE WORLD SLAVE TRADE WASLEGAL.
  • 00:17:24.212 --> 00:17:25.613
  • LEGAL.IT WAS GOING ON AND THE
  • 00:17:25.613 --> 00:17:27.114
  • IT WAS GOING ON AND THEFIRST LAW TO BAN THE SLAVE
  • 00:17:27.114 --> 00:17:28.149
  • FIRST LAW TO BAN THE SLAVETRADE THAT WAS SIGNED BY
  • 00:17:28.149 --> 00:17:28.916
  • TRADE THAT WAS SIGNED BYANYBODY WAS SIGNED BY
  • 00:17:28.916 --> 00:17:30.418
  • ANYBODY WAS SIGNED BYTHOMAS JEFFERSON.
  • 00:17:30.418 --> 00:17:31.786
  • THOMAS JEFFERSON.IT'S INTERESTING, THE
  • 00:17:31.786 --> 00:17:33.621
  • IT'S INTERESTING, THEFIRST NATION OF THE WORLD
  • 00:17:33.621 --> 00:17:34.388
  • FIRST NATION OF THE WORLDTHAT BANNED SLAVERY WAS
  • 00:17:34.388 --> 00:17:36.724
  • THAT BANNED SLAVERY WASENGLAND.
  • 00:17:36.724 --> 00:17:37.291
  • ENGLAND.AND THAT WAS 1833.
  • 00:17:37.291 --> 00:17:38.392
  • AND THAT WAS 1833.THAT IS LESS THAN TWO
  • 00:17:38.392 --> 00:17:40.895
  • AND WE ACT LIKE TODAY THAT
  • 00:17:42.597 --> 00:17:43.898
  • AND WE ACT LIKE TODAY THATSLAVERY HAS ALWAYS BEEN
  • 00:17:43.898 --> 00:17:44.465
  • SLAVERY HAS ALWAYS BEENILLEGAL IN THE HISTORY OF
  • 00:17:44.465 --> 00:17:45.032
  • ILLEGAL IN THE HISTORY OFTHE WORLD.
  • 00:17:45.032 --> 00:17:46.100
  • THE WORLD.NO, THIS IS A RELATIVELY
  • 00:17:46.100 --> 00:17:46.767
  • NO, THIS IS A RELATIVELYRECENT MOVEMENT IN HISTORY
  • 00:17:46.767 --> 00:17:48.669
  • RECENT MOVEMENT IN HISTORYTO TRY AND GIVE EQUALITY
  • 00:17:48.669 --> 00:17:49.504
  • TO TRY AND GIVE EQUALITYAND END SLAVERY.
  • 00:17:49.504 --> 00:17:50.471
  • AND END SLAVERY.AND THE FOUNDING FATHERS
  • 00:17:50.471 --> 00:17:51.439
  • AND THE FOUNDING FATHERSARE ON THE FRONT EDGE OF
  • 00:17:51.439 --> 00:17:51.939
  • ARE ON THE FRONT EDGE OFTHAT.
  • 00:17:51.939 --> 00:17:53.441
  • THAT.THEY DID NOT GET IT DONE
  • 00:17:53.441 --> 00:17:54.408
  • THEY DID NOT GET IT DONEAND THEY WEREN'T PERFECT.
  • 00:17:54.408 --> 00:17:55.243
  • AND THEY WEREN'T PERFECT.AT LEAST THEY WERE TRYING
  • 00:17:55.243 --> 00:17:56.077
  • AT LEAST THEY WERE TRYINGTO MOVE THE BALL DOWN THE
  • 00:17:56.077 --> 00:17:56.811
  • TO MOVE THE BALL DOWN THECOURT.
  • 00:17:56.811 --> 00:17:57.578
  • COURT.- ERIC: I LEARNED MOST OF
  • 00:17:57.578 --> 00:17:58.913
  • - ERIC: I LEARNED MOST OFTHIS MYSELF FAIRLY
  • 00:17:58.913 --> 00:18:00.815
  • THIS MYSELF FAIRLYRECENTLY, THAT'S WHY I
  • 00:18:00.815 --> 00:18:01.749
  • RECENTLY, THAT'S WHY IWROTE MY BOOK ABOUT
  • 00:18:01.749 --> 00:18:02.850
  • WROTE MY BOOK ABOUTWILLIAM WILBERFORCE.
  • 00:18:02.850 --> 00:18:04.652
  • WILLIAM WILBERFORCE.I WAS ASTOUNDED TO REALIZE
  • 00:18:04.652 --> 00:18:07.188
  • I WAS ASTOUNDED TO REALIZETHAT IT WAS -- WE WOULD
  • 00:18:07.188 --> 00:18:08.256
  • THAT IT WAS -- WE WOULDCALL THEM THE EVANGELICAL
  • 00:18:08.256 --> 00:18:09.290
  • CALL THEM THE EVANGELICALCHRISTIANS, NOT JUST THE
  • 00:18:09.290 --> 00:18:10.391
  • CHRISTIANS, NOT JUST THECHURCH GOERS, NOT THE
  • 00:18:10.391 --> 00:18:11.359
  • CHURCH GOERS, NOT THECHURCH OF ENGLAND,
  • 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:13.261
  • CHURCH OF ENGLAND,BISHOPS, BUT THE
  • 00:18:13.261 --> 00:18:15.496
  • BISHOPS, BUT THEEVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS.
  • 00:18:15.496 --> 00:18:16.397
  • EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS.THE ENTHUSIASTS, THE
  • 00:18:16.397 --> 00:18:17.632
  • THE ENTHUSIASTS, THEMETHODISTS OF THE DAY, THE
  • 00:18:17.632 --> 00:18:18.666
  • METHODISTS OF THE DAY, THEJESUS FREAKS OF THE DAY.
  • 00:18:18.666 --> 00:18:20.134
  • JESUS FREAKS OF THE DAY.THEY WERE THE ONES WHO LED
  • 00:18:20.134 --> 00:18:21.269
  • THEY WERE THE ONES WHO LEDTHE CHARGE TO END THE
  • 00:18:21.269 --> 00:18:22.904
  • THE CHARGE TO END THESLAVE TRADE.
  • 00:18:22.904 --> 00:18:23.404
  • SLAVE TRADE.I KNOW, DAVID, YOU'VE
  • 00:18:23.404 --> 00:18:24.238
  • I KNOW, DAVID, YOU'VEWRITTEN SO MANY BOOKS ON
  • 00:18:24.238 --> 00:18:25.106
  • WRITTEN SO MANY BOOKS ONAMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:18:25.106 --> 00:18:26.107
  • AMERICAN HISTORY.WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS BOOK
  • 00:18:26.107 --> 00:18:27.141
  • WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS BOOKTHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT?
  • 00:18:27.141 --> 00:18:28.309
  • THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT?FOR WHOM DID YOU WRITE
  • 00:18:28.309 --> 00:18:30.778
  • - DAVID: THIS BOOK IS
  • 00:18:31.846 --> 00:18:32.380
  • - DAVID: THIS BOOK ISWRITTEN FOR EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:18:32.380 --> 00:18:32.947
  • WRITTEN FOR EVERY SINGLEAMERICAN.
  • 00:18:32.947 --> 00:18:33.381
  • AMERICAN.IT PRESENTS AMERICAN
  • 00:18:33.381 --> 00:18:34.048
  • IT PRESENTS AMERICANHISTORY.
  • 00:18:34.048 --> 00:18:34.515
  • HISTORY.A LOT OF STORIES WE'VE
  • 00:18:34.515 --> 00:18:35.116
  • A LOT OF STORIES WE'VEHEARD ABOUT BUT WE DON'T
  • 00:18:35.116 --> 00:18:37.385
  • HEARD ABOUT BUT WE DON'TKNOW DETAILS OF.
  • 00:18:37.385 --> 00:18:38.352
  • KNOW DETAILS OF.BUT WHAT IS UNIQUE, WE
  • 00:18:38.352 --> 00:18:39.687
  • BUT WHAT IS UNIQUE, WEHAVE REALLY -- WE LOOK
  • 00:18:39.687 --> 00:18:40.955
  • HAVE REALLY -- WE LOOKBACK TO THE WAY EARLY
  • 00:18:40.955 --> 00:18:42.924
  • BACK TO THE WAY EARLYHISTORY BOOKS WERE WRITTEN
  • 00:18:42.924 --> 00:18:43.558
  • HISTORY BOOKS WERE WRITTENFOR GENERATIONS AND
  • 00:18:43.558 --> 00:18:44.825
  • FOR GENERATIONS ANDCENTURIES IN AMERICA.
  • 00:18:44.825 --> 00:18:45.927
  • CENTURIES IN AMERICA.WE RETURNED THE CONCEPT OF
  • 00:18:45.927 --> 00:18:47.595
  • WE RETURNED THE CONCEPT OFPROVIDENTIAL HISTORY.
  • 00:18:47.595 --> 00:18:49.096
  • PROVIDENTIAL HISTORY.FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU LOOK
  • 00:18:49.096 --> 00:18:51.198
  • FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU LOOKAT FOUNDING FATHER'S
  • 00:18:51.198 --> 00:18:52.266
  • AT FOUNDING FATHER'SWRITINGS THEY TALK ABOUT
  • 00:18:52.266 --> 00:18:53.167
  • WRITINGS THEY TALK ABOUTHOW OFTEN GOD INTERVENED
  • 00:18:53.167 --> 00:18:53.968
  • HOW OFTEN GOD INTERVENEDIN THEIR AFFAIRS.
  • 00:18:53.968 --> 00:18:55.703
  • IN THEIR AFFAIRS.SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
  • 00:18:55.703 --> 00:18:57.204
  • SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEBATTLE OF LONG ISLAND,
  • 00:18:57.204 --> 00:18:59.173
  • BATTLE OF LONG ISLAND,AUGUST 1776, UNBELIEVABLE
  • 00:18:59.173 --> 00:19:00.808
  • AUGUST 1776, UNBELIEVABLETHINGS HAPPENED THAT MAKE
  • 00:19:00.808 --> 00:19:02.009
  • THINGS HAPPENED THAT MAKENO SENSE, UNLESS YOU
  • 00:19:02.009 --> 00:19:03.811
  • NO SENSE, UNLESS YOUBELIEVE THERE IS A GOD WHO
  • 00:19:03.811 --> 00:19:05.079
  • BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD WHOGETS INVOLVED IN THE
  • 00:19:05.079 --> 00:19:06.881
  • GETS INVOLVED IN THEAFFAIRS OF MEN.
  • 00:19:06.881 --> 00:19:07.848
  • AFFAIRS OF MEN.- TIM: YEAH, FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 00:19:07.848 --> 00:19:08.716
  • - TIM: YEAH, FOR EXAMPLE,IN THE BATTLE OF LONG
  • 00:19:08.716 --> 00:19:10.751
  • IN THE BATTLE OF LONGISLAND, WASHINGTON WITH
  • 00:19:10.751 --> 00:19:11.485
  • ISLAND, WASHINGTON WITHHIS MUCH SMALLER ARMY,
  • 00:19:11.485 --> 00:19:12.520
  • HIS MUCH SMALLER ARMY,8.000 TROOPS, 32.000
  • 00:19:12.520 --> 00:19:13.754
  • 8.000 TROOPS, 32.000BRITISH ARE COMING UP
  • 00:19:13.754 --> 00:19:14.855
  • BRITISH ARE COMING UPAGAINST THEM.
  • 00:19:14.855 --> 00:19:15.556
  • AGAINST THEM.THEY ARE PINNED AGAINST
  • 00:19:15.556 --> 00:19:16.591
  • THEY ARE PINNED AGAINSTTHE SHORES.
  • 00:19:16.591 --> 00:19:17.325
  • THE SHORES.AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
  • 00:19:17.325 --> 00:19:18.359
  • AND THEY ARE TRYING TOESCAPE.
  • 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:18.960
  • ESCAPE.BUT IT IS NOT GOING WELL.
  • 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:20.461
  • BUT IT IS NOT GOING WELL.THE BRITISH FLEETS ARE
  • 00:19:20.461 --> 00:19:21.529
  • THE BRITISH FLEETS ARECOMING UP BEHIND THEM.
  • 00:19:21.529 --> 00:19:21.996
  • COMING UP BEHIND THEM.ALL OF A SUDDEN A WIND
  • 00:19:21.996 --> 00:19:22.797
  • ALL OF A SUDDEN A WINDSTARTS BLOWING.
  • 00:19:22.797 --> 00:19:24.065
  • STARTS BLOWING.A STORM COMES AND THE
  • 00:19:24.065 --> 00:19:25.066
  • A STORM COMES AND THEBRITISH FLEET CAN'T COME
  • 00:19:25.066 --> 00:19:26.267
  • BRITISH FLEET CAN'T COMEUP AND PIN THEM IN BEHIND.
  • 00:19:26.267 --> 00:19:28.135
  • UP AND PIN THEM IN BEHIND.AND THEN, THAT NIGHT THE
  • 00:19:28.135 --> 00:19:28.669
  • AND THEN, THAT NIGHT THESTORM CALMS DOWN AND
  • 00:19:28.669 --> 00:19:30.404
  • STORM CALMS DOWN ANDWASHINGTON IS ABLE TO
  • 00:19:30.404 --> 00:19:31.005
  • WASHINGTON IS ABLE TOSTART GETTING BOATS AND HE
  • 00:19:31.005 --> 00:19:31.939
  • START GETTING BOATS AND HESTARTS GETTING MEN OFF THE
  • 00:19:31.939 --> 00:19:32.673
  • STARTS GETTING MEN OFF THEISLAND.
  • 00:19:32.673 --> 00:19:33.541
  • ISLAND.BUT THE NEXT MORNING, THEY
  • 00:19:33.541 --> 00:19:34.709
  • BUT THE NEXT MORNING, THEYARE NOT ALL OFF THE
  • 00:19:34.709 --> 00:19:35.142
  • ARE NOT ALL OFF THEISLANDS.
  • 00:19:35.142 --> 00:19:36.177
  • ISLANDS.THE BRITISH ARE GOING TO
  • 00:19:36.177 --> 00:19:36.677
  • THE BRITISH ARE GOING TOSEE THEM.
  • 00:19:36.677 --> 00:19:37.845
  • SEE THEM.THEY ARE GOING TO COME AND
  • 00:19:37.845 --> 00:19:38.245
  • THEY ARE GOING TO COME ANDOVERWHELM THEM.
  • 00:19:38.245 --> 00:19:38.980
  • OVERWHELM THEM.JUST AS IT STARTS TO GET A
  • 00:19:38.980 --> 00:19:40.314
  • JUST AS IT STARTS TO GET ALITTLE GRAY, A HEAVY FOG
  • 00:19:40.314 --> 00:19:41.482
  • LITTLE GRAY, A HEAVY FOGLIFTS OFF THE GROUND AND
  • 00:19:41.482 --> 00:19:44.185
  • LIFTS OFF THE GROUND ANDBLOCKS TOTAL VIEW WHERE
  • 00:19:44.185 --> 00:19:45.219
  • BLOCKS TOTAL VIEW WHEREONE OF THE OFFICERS SAID
  • 00:19:45.219 --> 00:19:46.621
  • ONE OF THE OFFICERS SAIDHE COULD NOT SEE MORE THAN
  • 00:19:46.621 --> 00:19:48.022
  • HE COULD NOT SEE MORE THAN6 YARDS IN FRONT OF HIM.
  • 00:19:48.022 --> 00:19:49.523
  • 6 YARDS IN FRONT OF HIM.IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE LAST
  • 00:19:49.523 --> 00:19:51.225
  • IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE LASTBOAT GETS OFF THE ISLAND
  • 00:19:51.225 --> 00:19:52.927
  • BOAT GETS OFF THE ISLANDTHAT THE FOG LIFTS.
  • 00:19:52.927 --> 00:19:54.362
  • THAT THE FOG LIFTS.THERE'S SO MANY MOMENTS
  • 00:19:54.362 --> 00:19:55.496
  • THERE'S SO MANY MOMENTSWHERE YOU GO, A LOT OF
  • 00:19:55.496 --> 00:19:56.397
  • WHERE YOU GO, A LOT OFTHINGS DON'T MAKE VERY
  • 00:19:56.397 --> 00:19:57.732
  • THINGS DON'T MAKE VERYMUCH SENSE.
  • 00:19:57.732 --> 00:19:58.833
  • MUCH SENSE.MAYBE EVEN ESPECIALLY IN
  • 00:19:58.833 --> 00:20:00.201
  • MAYBE EVEN ESPECIALLY INWEATHER MOMENTS WHERE
  • 00:20:00.201 --> 00:20:01.435
  • WEATHER MOMENTS WHERENOBODY CAN CONTROL THE
  • 00:20:01.435 --> 00:20:03.771
  • NOBODY CAN CONTROL THEWEATHER EXCEPT MAYBE GOD.
  • 00:20:03.771 --> 00:20:05.506
  • WEATHER EXCEPT MAYBE GOD.AND WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE
  • 00:20:05.506 --> 00:20:06.674
  • AND WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLESURVIVING WHERE THEY
  • 00:20:06.674 --> 00:20:07.708
  • SURVIVING WHERE THEYPROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN
  • 00:20:07.708 --> 00:20:08.609
  • PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEENCONQUERED.
  • 00:20:08.609 --> 00:20:09.210
  • CONQUERED.THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE
  • 00:20:09.210 --> 00:20:10.645
  • THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVEBEEN CAPTURED OR KILLED,
  • 00:20:10.645 --> 00:20:12.713
  • BEEN CAPTURED OR KILLED,AND THEY IS SURVIVED
  • 00:20:12.713 --> 00:20:14.649
  • AND THEY IS SURVIVEDBECAUSE OF THIS CRAZY
  • 00:20:14.649 --> 00:20:16.017
  • BECAUSE OF THIS CRAZYWEATHER MOMENT, AS
  • 00:20:16.017 --> 00:20:17.251
  • WEATHER MOMENT, ASCHRISTIANS, WE KNOW THAT
  • 00:20:17.251 --> 00:20:18.452
  • CHRISTIANS, WE KNOW THATGOD DOES INVOLVE HIMSELF
  • 00:20:18.452 --> 00:20:19.153
  • GOD DOES INVOLVE HIMSELFIN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN AND
  • 00:20:19.153 --> 00:20:20.354
  • IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN ANDSOMETIMES, MAYBE EVEN
  • 00:20:20.354 --> 00:20:21.355
  • SOMETIMES, MAYBE EVENLARGELY IN THE AFFAIRS OF
  • 00:20:21.355 --> 00:20:22.490
  • LARGELY IN THE AFFAIRS OFNATIONS.
  • 00:20:22.490 --> 00:20:23.457
  • NATIONS.SO WE CAN POINT AND SAY IT
  • 00:20:23.457 --> 00:20:25.826
  • SO WE CAN POINT AND SAY ITSURE SEEMS LIKE THAT IS A
  • 00:20:25.826 --> 00:20:27.028
  • SURE SEEMS LIKE THAT IS AMOMENT WHERE GOD SHOWED UP
  • 00:20:27.028 --> 00:20:28.763
  • MOMENT WHERE GOD SHOWED UPAND WE POINT TO A LOT OF
  • 00:20:28.763 --> 00:20:29.897
  • AND WE POINT TO A LOT OFWRITINGS OF GUYS WHO WERE
  • 00:20:29.897 --> 00:20:31.599
  • WRITINGS OF GUYS WHO WERETHERE WHO TALKED ABOUT IT
  • 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:33.167
  • THERE WHO TALKED ABOUT ITHAS THE HAND OF PROVIDENCE
  • 00:20:33.167 --> 00:20:33.734
  • HAS THE HAND OF PROVIDENCETHAT PROTECTED US IN THAT
  • 00:20:33.734 --> 00:20:34.702
  • THAT PROTECTED US IN THATMOMENT.
  • 00:20:34.702 --> 00:20:35.836
  • MOMENT.SO WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, IT
  • 00:20:35.836 --> 00:20:36.537
  • SO WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE, ITLOOKS LIKE GOD WAS DOING
  • 00:20:36.537 --> 00:20:37.438
  • LOOKS LIKE GOD WAS DOINGSOMETHING.
  • 00:20:37.438 --> 00:20:38.439
  • SOMETHING.AND WE SHOW THAT THEY
  • 00:20:38.439 --> 00:20:39.640
  • AND WE SHOW THAT THEYACKNOWLEDGE THAT GOD WAS A
  • 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:40.574
  • ACKNOWLEDGE THAT GOD WAS APART OF THIS.
  • 00:20:40.574 --> 00:20:41.742
  • PART OF THIS.ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PARTS
  • 00:20:41.742 --> 00:20:42.943
  • ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PARTSOF THE AMERICAN STORY IS
  • 00:20:42.943 --> 00:20:44.278
  • OF THE AMERICAN STORY ISRECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS
  • 00:20:44.278 --> 00:20:46.047
  • RECOGNIZING THAT THIS ISNOT JUST A HISTORY BOOK OF
  • 00:20:46.047 --> 00:20:47.448
  • NOT JUST A HISTORY BOOK OFWHO WAS WHERE, WHEN AND
  • 00:20:47.448 --> 00:20:48.616
  • WHO WAS WHERE, WHEN ANDWHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT
  • 00:20:48.616 --> 00:20:50.017
  • WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUTRECOGNIZING ALSO, BECAUSE
  • 00:20:50.017 --> 00:20:52.086
  • RECOGNIZING ALSO, BECAUSETHERE IS A GOD, BECAUSE
  • 00:20:52.086 --> 00:20:53.487
  • THERE IS A GOD, BECAUSEGOD DOES CARE AND LOVE
  • 00:20:53.487 --> 00:20:54.989
  • GOD DOES CARE AND LOVEABOUT PEOPLE AND, GOD
  • 00:20:54.989 --> 00:20:55.990
  • ABOUT PEOPLE AND, GODINVOLVES HIMSELF IN THEIR
  • 00:20:55.990 --> 00:20:57.591
  • INVOLVES HIMSELF IN THEIRLIVES, THERE ARE MANY
  • 00:20:57.591 --> 00:20:58.626
  • LIVES, THERE ARE MANYMOMENTS YOU CAN LOOK.
  • 00:20:58.626 --> 00:20:59.960
  • MOMENTS YOU CAN LOOK.MAYBE NOT ALWAYS WITH
  • 00:20:59.960 --> 00:21:00.761
  • MAYBE NOT ALWAYS WITHABSOLUTE CERTAINTY SAY, WE
  • 00:21:00.761 --> 00:21:02.196
  • ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY SAY, WEKNOW RIGHT HERE GOD DID
  • 00:21:02.196 --> 00:21:03.998
  • KNOW RIGHT HERE GOD DIDTHIS, BUT THERE ARE
  • 00:21:03.998 --> 00:21:04.799
  • THIS, BUT THERE ARECERTAINLY TIMES YOU CAN
  • 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:06.901
  • CERTAINLY TIMES YOU CANQUESTION AND SAY, OKAY,
  • 00:21:06.901 --> 00:21:08.636
  • QUESTION AND SAY, OKAY,THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY
  • 00:21:08.636 --> 00:21:09.637
  • THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANYSENSE UNLESS THERE IS A
  • 00:21:09.637 --> 00:21:10.705
  • SENSE UNLESS THERE IS AGOD WHO WAS INTERVENING IN
  • 00:21:10.705 --> 00:21:11.372
  • GOD WHO WAS INTERVENING INTHIS MOMENT.
  • 00:21:11.372 --> 00:21:12.373
  • THIS MOMENT.- DAVID: ONE OF THE
  • 00:21:12.373 --> 00:21:13.307
  • - DAVID: ONE OF THETHINGS THAT ALSO MAKES IT
  • 00:21:13.307 --> 00:21:15.242
  • THINGS THAT ALSO MAKES ITUNIQUE, WE DO A LOT OF
  • 00:21:15.242 --> 00:21:16.677
  • UNIQUE, WE DO A LOT OFBIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY.
  • 00:21:16.677 --> 00:21:17.211
  • BIOGRAPHICAL HISTORY.IT USED TO BE IN HISTORY
  • 00:21:17.211 --> 00:21:18.045
  • IT USED TO BE IN HISTORYWE TOLD THE STORIES OF
  • 00:21:18.045 --> 00:21:19.346
  • WE TOLD THE STORIES OFINDIVIDUALS.
  • 00:21:19.346 --> 00:21:20.781
  • INDIVIDUALS.TODAY WE GOT INTO DATES
  • 00:21:20.781 --> 00:21:24.919
  • THE STORY IS REALLY
  • 00:21:25.853 --> 00:21:26.253
  • THE STORY IS REALLYIMPORTANT.
  • 00:21:26.253 --> 00:21:27.388
  • IMPORTANT.GOD USES PEOPLE.
  • 00:21:27.388 --> 00:21:28.222
  • GOD USES PEOPLE.WE ARE TOLD IN REVELATION,
  • 00:21:28.222 --> 00:21:29.690
  • WE ARE TOLD IN REVELATION,ONE OF THE WAYS WE
  • 00:21:29.690 --> 00:21:30.257
  • ONE OF THE WAYS WEOVERCOME THE ENEMY IS BY
  • 00:21:30.257 --> 00:21:31.625
  • OVERCOME THE ENEMY IS BYOUR STORY OR OUR
  • 00:21:31.625 --> 00:21:33.027
  • OUR STORY OR OURTESTIMONY.
  • 00:21:33.027 --> 00:21:34.495
  • TESTIMONY.GOING BACK AND SEEING A
  • 00:21:34.495 --> 00:21:35.930
  • GOING BACK AND SEEING ABIOGRAPHY OF SOME OF THESE
  • 00:21:35.930 --> 00:21:37.298
  • BIOGRAPHY OF SOME OF THESEPEOPLE, LETTING THEM
  • 00:21:37.298 --> 00:21:38.499
  • PEOPLE, LETTING THEMBECOME HUMAN AGAIN, AND
  • 00:21:38.499 --> 00:21:40.267
  • BECOME HUMAN AGAIN, ANDSEEING WHAT WAS GOING ON
  • 00:21:40.267 --> 00:21:40.968
  • SEEING WHAT WAS GOING ONAT THE TIME, THAT'S
  • 00:21:40.968 --> 00:21:42.103
  • AT THE TIME, THAT'SANOTHER THING THAT IS
  • 00:21:42.103 --> 00:21:43.003
  • ANOTHER THING THAT ISUNIQUE ABOUT THIS HISTORY
  • 00:21:43.003 --> 00:21:43.804
  • UNIQUE ABOUT THIS HISTORYBOOK THAT MAKES IT
  • 00:21:43.804 --> 00:21:44.538
  • BOOK THAT MAKES ITDIFFERENT FROM SO MANY
  • 00:21:44.538 --> 00:21:45.473
  • DIFFERENT FROM SO MANYTHAT ARE OUT THERE.
  • 00:21:45.473 --> 00:21:46.173
  • THAT ARE OUT THERE.- ERIC: KNOWING OUR
  • 00:21:46.173 --> 00:21:47.641
  • - ERIC: KNOWING OURHISTORY, IT SEEMS TO ME,
  • 00:21:47.641 --> 00:21:49.009
  • HISTORY, IT SEEMS TO ME,AGAIN, WHEN I WROTE MY
  • 00:21:49.009 --> 00:21:50.144
  • AGAIN, WHEN I WROTE MYBOOK, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT,
  • 00:21:50.144 --> 00:21:51.812
  • BOOK, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT,IT IS THE SAME CONCEPT.
  • 00:21:51.812 --> 00:21:52.913
  • IT IS THE SAME CONCEPT.I THOUGHT, THIS IS THE
  • 00:21:52.913 --> 00:21:53.848
  • I THOUGHT, THIS IS THEONLY WAY WE CAN SAVE THIS
  • 00:21:53.848 --> 00:21:54.782
  • ONLY WAY WE CAN SAVE THISCOUNTRY IS IF WE TEACH
  • 00:21:54.782 --> 00:21:58.552
  • COUNTRY IS IF WE TEACHYOUNG PEOPLE ESPECIALLY
  • 00:21:58.552 --> 00:22:00.221
  • YOUNG PEOPLE ESPECIALLYOUR HISTORY, BECAUSE THE
  • 00:22:00.221 --> 00:22:01.021
  • OUR HISTORY, BECAUSE THEHISTORY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
  • 00:22:01.021 --> 00:22:01.756
  • HISTORY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.IT SEEMS TO ME YOUR BOOK
  • 00:22:01.756 --> 00:22:04.391
  • IT SEEMS TO ME YOUR BOOKDOES THIS IN SPADES.
  • 00:22:04.391 --> 00:22:04.959
  • DOES THIS IN SPADES.I KNOW THAT IS PART OF WHY
  • 00:22:04.959 --> 00:22:07.962
  • - TIM: YEAH, IT REALLY
  • 00:22:09.296 --> 00:22:09.864
  • - TIM: YEAH, IT REALLYIS, TO HELP PEOPLE RELEARN
  • 00:22:09.864 --> 00:22:10.397
  • IS, TO HELP PEOPLE RELEARNTHE STORY OF AMERICA.
  • 00:22:10.397 --> 00:22:10.831
  • THE STORY OF AMERICA.RIGHT NOW MOST YOUNG
  • 00:22:10.831 --> 00:22:12.166
  • RIGHT NOW MOST YOUNGPEOPLE CAN TELL YOU MORE
  • 00:22:12.166 --> 00:22:13.334
  • PEOPLE CAN TELL YOU MOREBAD THINGS ABOUT AMERICA
  • 00:22:13.334 --> 00:22:14.235
  • BAD THINGS ABOUT AMERICATHAN GOOD THINGS ABOUT
  • 00:22:14.235 --> 00:22:15.035
  • THAN GOOD THINGS ABOUTAMERICA.
  • 00:22:15.035 --> 00:22:15.903
  • AMERICA.IT'S NOT BECAUSE THERE IS
  • 00:22:15.903 --> 00:22:18.305
  • IT'S NOT BECAUSE THERE ISA LACK OF BAD THINGS WE
  • 00:22:18.305 --> 00:22:19.507
  • A LACK OF BAD THINGS WECAN IDENTIFY, BUT IT'S
  • 00:22:19.507 --> 00:22:20.441
  • CAN IDENTIFY, BUT IT'SREALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T
  • 00:22:20.441 --> 00:22:21.242
  • REALLY BECAUSE WE DON'TKNOW THE STORY OF THE
  • 00:22:21.242 --> 00:22:22.343
  • KNOW THE STORY OF THEGOOD.
  • 00:22:22.343 --> 00:22:23.277
  • GOOD.ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARN
  • 00:22:23.277 --> 00:22:23.811
  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNFROM THE BIBLE, GOD TELLS
  • 00:22:23.811 --> 00:22:25.079
  • FROM THE BIBLE, GOD TELLSUS THE WHOLE STORY, THE
  • 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:25.946
  • US THE WHOLE STORY, THEGOOD, THE BAD AND THE
  • 00:22:25.946 --> 00:22:26.914
  • GOOD, THE BAD AND THEUGLY.
  • 00:22:26.914 --> 00:22:28.182
  • UGLY.IN AMERICA TODAY WE
  • 00:22:28.182 --> 00:22:29.216
  • IN AMERICA TODAY WELARGELY DON'T KNOW THE
  • 00:22:29.216 --> 00:22:30.351
  • LARGELY DON'T KNOW THESTORY OF THE GOOD AND AND
  • 00:22:30.351 --> 00:22:32.553
  • STORY OF THE GOOD AND ANDA LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE
  • 00:22:32.553 --> 00:22:33.788
  • A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVELEARNED ABOUT BEING BAD IS
  • 00:22:33.788 --> 00:22:34.321
  • LEARNED ABOUT BEING BAD ISA DISHONEST STORY.
  • 00:22:34.321 --> 00:22:35.422
  • A DISHONEST STORY.WE GO BACK SAY, HERE IS
  • 00:22:35.422 --> 00:22:36.056
  • WE GO BACK SAY, HERE ISTHE HONEST STORY.
  • 00:22:36.056 --> 00:22:37.458
  • THE HONEST STORY.HERE IS WHAT SLAVERY
  • 00:22:37.458 --> 00:22:37.992
  • HERE IS WHAT SLAVERYLOOKED LIKE IN AMERICA.
  • 00:22:37.992 --> 00:22:39.126
  • LOOKED LIKE IN AMERICA.HERE IS WHAT THE FOUNDING
  • 00:22:39.126 --> 00:22:40.361
  • HERE IS WHAT THE FOUNDINGFATHERS LOOKED LIKE
  • 00:22:40.361 --> 00:22:40.895
  • FATHERS LOOKED LIKEIMPERFECTIONS AND ALL.
  • 00:22:40.895 --> 00:22:41.862
  • IMPERFECTIONS AND ALL.HERE IS WHAT EARLY
  • 00:22:41.862 --> 00:22:42.396
  • HERE IS WHAT EARLYDISCOVERY LOOKED LIKE.
  • 00:22:42.396 --> 00:22:42.930
  • DISCOVERY LOOKED LIKE.HERE IS WHAT THE PILGRIMS
  • 00:22:42.930 --> 00:22:43.430
  • HERE IS WHAT THE PILGRIMSLOOKED LIKE.
  • 00:22:43.430 --> 00:22:44.598
  • LOOKED LIKE.SQUANTO, WE TELL THE STORY
  • 00:22:44.598 --> 00:22:46.000
  • SQUANTO, WE TELL THE STORYAND WE SHOW AMERICA,
  • 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.635
  • AND WE SHOW AMERICA,BLEMISHES AND ALL.
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  • BLEMISHES AND ALL.WHEN YOU LEARN THE FULL
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  • WHEN YOU LEARN THE FULLSTORY, YOU JUDGE IT IN
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  • STORY, YOU JUDGE IT INCONTEXT, YOU LEARN THAT
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  • CONTEXT, YOU LEARN THATEVEN THOUGH AMERICA IS NOT
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  • EVEN THOUGH AMERICA IS NOTPERFECT, WE ARE ONE OF THE
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  • PERFECT, WE ARE ONE OF THEMOST SPECIAL AND BLESSED
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  • MOST SPECIAL AND BLESSEDNATIONS IN THE HISTORY OF
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  • NATIONS IN THE HISTORY OFTHE WORLD.
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  • THE WORLD.- ERIC: I WILL SAY AMEN
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  • - ERIC: I WILL SAY AMENTO THAT.
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  • TO THAT.IT'S ALWAYS A JOY TO TALK
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  • IT'S ALWAYS A JOY TO TALKTO YOU.
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  • TO YOU.THE ONLY THING BETTER
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  • THE ONLY THING BETTERWOULD BE TO BE WITH YOU IN
  • 00:23:03.617 --> 00:23:04.084
  • WOULD BE TO BE WITH YOU INPERSON.
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  • PERSON.BUT THE LORD WILL ARRANGE
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  • BUT THE LORD WILL ARRANGETHAT.
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  • THAT.CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW
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  • CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEWBOOK, THE AMERICAN STORY.
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  • BOOK, THE AMERICAN STORY.THE BEGINNINGS.
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  • THE BEGINNINGS.THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU
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  • THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOUDO AT WALLBUILDERS.
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  • DO AT WALLBUILDERS.I HOPE EVERYBODY LISTENING
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  • I HOPE EVERYBODY LISTENINGWILL GO TO WALLBUILDERS,
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  • WILL GO TO WALLBUILDERS,THE WEB SITE
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  • THE WEB SITEWALLBUILDERS.COM.
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  • WALLBUILDERS.COM.BROTHERS, AMERICANS, GOD
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  • BROTHERS, AMERICANS, GODBLESS YOU.
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  • BLESS YOU.- DAVID: THANKS, ERIC,
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  • - DAVID: THANKS, ERIC,ALWAYS GREAT TO BE WITH
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  • ALWAYS GREAT TO BE WITHYOU, BROTHER.
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  • YOU, BROTHER.(POPPING SOUNDS)
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  • (POPPING SOUNDS)♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA-- ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA-- ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA-- ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA-- ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA-- ♪
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