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October 30, 2020

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The Eric Metaxas Show offers compelling perspective on American culture; political life; and stories making news around the corner and across the globe.

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- ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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- ERIC METAXAS: THISPROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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PROGRAM IS SPONSORED INPART BY CARSHIELD,
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PART BY CARSHIELD,GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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[SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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[WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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[DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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[BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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[REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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[PLOP][WHOOSH]
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[WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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- MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC][BOINK]
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[BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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[ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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[BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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[MUSIC][CRASH]
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- ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS.
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- ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS.WELCOME TO
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WELCOME TO"THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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"THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."I'M ERIC METAXAS.
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I'M ERIC METAXAS.THIS IS THE SHOW.
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THIS IS THE SHOW.I TALK TO FUN PEOPLE,
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I TALK TO FUN PEOPLE,INTERESTING PEOPLE,
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AND TODAY-- VERY EXCITED.
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AND TODAY-- VERY EXCITED.I ACTUALLY HAVE IN MY HAND
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I ACTUALLY HAVE IN MY HANDA BOOK CALLED
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A BOOK CALLED"START WHERE YOU ARE."
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"START WHERE YOU ARE."AND THAT SHOULD BE EASY
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AND THAT SHOULD BE EASY'CAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY THERE.
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'CAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY THERE."START WHERE YOU ARE:
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"START WHERE YOU ARE:HOW GOD MEETS YOU IN YOUR
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HOW GOD MEETS YOU IN YOURMESS, LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,
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MESS, LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."
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AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."WHO'S THE AUTHOR?
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WHO'S THE AUTHOR?RASHAWN COPELAND.
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RASHAWN COPELAND.HE'S MY GUEST.
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HE'S MY GUEST.DID YOU KNOW THAT?
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WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
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- RASHAWN COPELAND: ERIC,
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- RASHAWN COPELAND: ERIC,THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
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THANKS FOR HAVING ME.I'M SO HUMBLED TO BE HERE
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I'M SO HUMBLED TO BE HEREAND LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR
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AND LOOKING FORWARD TO OURTIME TOGETHER,
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TIME TOGETHER,AND THANK YOU FOR
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- ERIC: WELL, LISTEN,
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- ERIC: WELL, LISTEN,THE MESSAGE OF YOUR BOOK--
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THE MESSAGE OF YOUR BOOK--THAT'S WHY I HAVE YOU ON
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THAT'S WHY I HAVE YOU ONTHE PROGRAM AS WELL.
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THE PROGRAM AS WELL.I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT,
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I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT,AND I THINK YOUR STORY
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AND I THINK YOUR STORYIS IMPORTANT,
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IS IMPORTANT,HOW YOU GOT THERE.
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HOW YOU GOT THERE.AND SO FOR PEOPLE WHO
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AND SO FOR PEOPLE WHODON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE,
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DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE,NOW YOU ARE A MINISTER OF
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NOW YOU ARE A MINISTER OFTHE GOSPEL.
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THE GOSPEL.YOU'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF
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YOU'RE DOING ALL KINDS OFSTUFF.
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STUFF.BUT I WANNA GET TO YOUR
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BUT I WANNA GET TO YOURSTORY OF HOW YOU GOT TO
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STORY OF HOW YOU GOT TOWHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE,
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WHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE,WHEN YOU SAY IN THE TITLE
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WHEN YOU SAY IN THE TITLEOF YOUR BOOK,
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OF YOUR BOOK,"START WHERE YOU ARE,"
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"START WHERE YOU ARE,"YOU KNOW,
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YOU KNOW,"IN YOUR MESS,"
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"IN YOUR MESS,"YOU DEFINITELY WERE IN A MESS.
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YOU DEFINITELY WERE IN A MESS.SO TELL US, YOU KNOW, YOUR
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SO TELL US, YOU KNOW, YOURLIFE STORY UP TO WHERE GOD
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LIFE STORY UP TO WHERE GODCOMES INTO IT.
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COMES INTO IT.LIKE, WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
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LIKE, WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?WHAT WAS IT LIKE?
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WHAT WAS IT LIKE?TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
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TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.- RASHAWN: GOOD DEAL.
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- RASHAWN: GOOD DEAL.SO, ERIC, I GREW UP IN A
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I WAS THE KID THAT ACTUALLY,
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I WAS THE KID THAT ACTUALLY,WAS--
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WAS--WELL, A KID THAT WAS
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WELL, A KID THAT WASLOVED, ONE FAMILY AND,
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LOVED, ONE FAMILY AND,OUR FAMILY WAS A
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OUR FAMILY WAS APRETTY GOOD FAMILY
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PRETTY GOOD FAMILYIN THE EYES OF THE WORLD,
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IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD,THE STANDARDS OF THE WORLD,
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THE STANDARDS OF THE WORLD,AND IT WAS JUST REALLY GOOD,
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AND IT WAS JUST REALLY GOOD,AND THERE WAS ONE THING
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AND THERE WAS ONE THINGTHAT OPENED UP MY EYES
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THAT OPENED UP MY EYESAS I GOT OLDER A BIT.
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AS I GOT OLDER A BIT.WELL, AT GRADE SCHOOL,
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WELL, AT GRADE SCHOOL,I HAD A TEACHER TELL ME TO
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I HAD A TEACHER TELL ME TONEVER PICK UP A PEN AND
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NEVER PICK UP A PEN ANDWRITE AGAIN, AND THAT,
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WRITE AGAIN, AND THAT,LIKE, CRUSHED ME.
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LIKE, CRUSHED ME.AND FROM THAT POINT,
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AND FROM THAT POINT,I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT,
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I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT,LIKE, WHAT IS THE WAY I
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LIKE, WHAT IS THE WAY ICAN SORT OF PROVE THIS
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CAN SORT OF PROVE THISTEACHER WRONG?
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TEACHER WRONG?SO I SOUGHT ACCEPTANCE THE
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SO I SOUGHT ACCEPTANCE THEREST OF MY LIFE,
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REST OF MY LIFE,TRYING TO RUN AFTER
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TRYING TO RUN AFTERACCEPTANCE, AND IT REALLY
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ACCEPTANCE, AND IT REALLYSTARTED ON MY HEART ON THE
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STARTED ON MY HEART ON THEFOOTBALL FIELD.
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FOOTBALL FIELD.AND AS I BEGAN TO PLAY
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AND AS I BEGAN TO PLAYFOOTBALL, I WAS REALLY
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FOOTBALL, I WAS REALLYGOOD AT IT, AND I WAS IN
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GOOD AT IT, AND I WAS INTHAT, YOU KNOW, CYCLE
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THAT, YOU KNOW, CYCLEAGAIN OF PROVING MYSELF TO
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AGAIN OF PROVING MYSELF TOTHE WORLD,
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THE WORLD,AND IT WAS WORKIN'.
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AND IT WAS WORKIN'.- ERIC: YOU EXCELLED AS
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- ERIC: YOU EXCELLED ASAN ATHLETE ON THE FOOTBALL
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- RASHAWN: YES, I BEGAN
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- RASHAWN: YES, I BEGANTO GET SCHOLARSHIPS,
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TO GET SCHOLARSHIPS,SEVERAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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SEVERAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.I WAS LOOKIN' AT THE
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I WAS LOOKIN' AT THEUNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA,
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UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA,AND WEEKS AWAY FROM
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AND WEEKS AWAY FROMSIGNING THE LETTER OF INTENT,
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SIGNING THE LETTER OF INTENT,NATIONAL LETTER OF INTENT,
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NATIONAL LETTER OF INTENT,I FIND MYSELF OUT
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I FIND MYSELF OUTIN THE CAR, HANGIN' OUT
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IN THE CAR, HANGIN' OUTWITH THIS YOUNG LADY AFTER
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AND THIS WAS THAT DEFINING
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AND THIS WAS THAT DEFININGMOMENT.
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MOMENT.I GET A PHONE CALL--
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I GET A PHONE CALL--[BRRRNG, BRRRNG]
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[BRRRNG, BRRRNG]-- FROM THIS GUY THAT I
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-- FROM THIS GUY THAT IDIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT,
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DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT,BUT IT WAS THE
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BUT IT WAS THEEX-BOYFRIEND OF THE GIRL
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EX-BOYFRIEND OF THE GIRLTHAT I WAS IN THE CAR WITH.
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THAT I WAS IN THE CAR WITH.AND, AT THIS POINT, ME
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AND, AT THIS POINT, MEBEIN' THE PRIDEFUL,
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BEIN' THE PRIDEFUL,EGOTISTICAL HIGH SCHOOL
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EGOTISTICAL HIGH SCHOOLFOOTBALL PLAYER, "FUTURE
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FOOTBALL PLAYER, "FUTURECOLLEGE FOOTBALL STAR" IN
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COLLEGE FOOTBALL STAR" INMY HEAD, I PRIDEFULLY TAKE
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MY HEAD, I PRIDEFULLY TAKEHER PHONE AS THE PHONE'S
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HER PHONE AS THE PHONE'SRINGIN'--
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RINGIN'--[BRRRNG]
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[BRRRNG]-- AND I ANSWER IT, AND
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-- AND I ANSWER IT, ANDOUT OF NOWHERE, YOU KNOW,
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OUT OF NOWHERE, YOU KNOW,THIS GUY COMES ON AND SAYS,
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THIS GUY COMES ON AND SAYS,"YO, WHY ARE YOU
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"YO, WHY ARE YOUWITH MY GIRL?
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WITH MY GIRL?WHY ARE YOU WITH MY GIRL?"
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WHY ARE YOU WITH MY GIRL?"COME TO FIND OUT, HE WAS
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COME TO FIND OUT, HE WASLOOKIN' AT HER MYSPACE,
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LOOKIN' AT HER MYSPACE,AND HE'S SEEN MY FACE,
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AND HE'S SEEN MY FACE,YOU KNOW, IN HER MYSPACE,
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YOU KNOW, IN HER MYSPACE,AND HE KNEW WHO I WAS.
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AND HE KNEW WHO I WAS.I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS.
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I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS.BUT THE UNWISE THING THAT
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BUT THE UNWISE THING THATI DID THAT NIGHT WAS LET
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I DID THAT NIGHT WAS LETTHIS GUY KNOW WHERE I WAS,
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THIS GUY KNOW WHERE I WAS,YOU KNOW?
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YOU KNOW?AND THAT WAS NOT WISE.
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AND THAT WAS NOT WISE.TEN MINUTES LATER, A VAN
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TEN MINUTES LATER, A VANPEELS IN, AND THIS WAS
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PEELS IN, AND THIS WASWHERE THE LORD HUMBLED ME.
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WHERE THE LORD HUMBLED ME.YOU KNOW, I NEEDED IT SO
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YOU KNOW, I NEEDED IT SOMUCH.
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MUCH.BUT HE-- A VAN PEELED IN.
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BUT HE-- A VAN PEELED IN.FIVE GUYS JUMP OUT OF THE
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FIVE GUYS JUMP OUT OF THECAR.
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CAR.I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUT
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I'M NOT TALKIN' ABOUTBURGERS.
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BURGERS.FIVE GUYS JUMP OUT.
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FIVE GUYS JUMP OUT.THEY'RE WALKING TOWARDS US.
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THEY'RE WALKING TOWARDS US.I JUMP OUT OF THE CAR
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I JUMP OUT OF THE CARFEARFULLY, BUT, YET
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FEARFULLY, BUT, YETPRIDEFULLY TRYIN' TO
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PRIDEFULLY TRYIN' TODEFEND THE HONOR OF THIS
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DEFEND THE HONOR OF THISGIRL.
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GIRL.SHE'S SITTIN' DOWN, AND I
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SHE'S SITTIN' DOWN, AND ISAID, "JUST SIT HERE.
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SAID, "JUST SIT HERE.I'LL BE BACK."
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I'LL BE BACK."SO I'M FRANTIC.
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SO I'M FRANTIC.I'M WALKIN' OVER HERE
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I'M WALKIN' OVER HERETOWARDS THESE GUYS
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TOWARDS THESE GUYSFEARFULLY, AND MY HEART'S
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FEARFULLY, AND MY HEART'SBEATIN' OUT OF MY CHEST.
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BEATIN' OUT OF MY CHEST.MY MIND'S RACIN', AND, ALL
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MY MIND'S RACIN', AND, ALLOF A SUDDEN, THE GUY
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OF A SUDDEN, THE GUYREACHES FOR HIS WAISTBAND.
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REACHES FOR HIS WAISTBAND.HE GRABS A PISTOL.
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HE GRABS A PISTOL.HE WAVES IT IN THE AIR.
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HE WAVES IT IN THE AIR.I TURN, AND I RUN.
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I TURN, AND I RUN.HE STANDS OVER ME AFTER I
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HE STANDS OVER ME AFTER ISLIPPED AND FALL.
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SLIPPED AND FALL.TWO GUNSHOTS,
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TWO GUNSHOTS,"BOOM, BOOM," AND I DIDN'T KNOW
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"BOOM, BOOM," AND I DIDN'T KNOWWHAT JUST HAPPENED.
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WHAT JUST HAPPENED.I JUST GOT SHOT.
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I JUST GOT SHOT.THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.- ERIC: WAIT A MINUTE.
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- ERIC: WAIT A MINUTE.WAIT A MINUTE.
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WAIT A MINUTE.SO YOU RUN FROM HIM.
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SO YOU RUN FROM HIM.HE CHASES YOU.
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AND HE SHOOTS YOU WHILE
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AND HE SHOOTS YOU WHILEYOU'RE ON THE GROUND--
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- RASHAWN: YES, I
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- RASHAWN: YES, IREMEMBER IT LIKE IT WAS
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REMEMBER IT LIKE IT WASYESTERDAY.
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YESTERDAY.- ERIC: DID HE SUCCEED?
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- ERIC: DID HE SUCCEED?- RASHAWN: HE DID NOT.
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- RASHAWN: HE DID NOT.- ERIC: THAT WAS A JOKE.
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- ERIC: THAT WAS A JOKE.HE DID NOT SUCCEED.
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HE DID NOT SUCCEED.BUT I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU--
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BUT I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU--WOW, YOU DID NOT
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WOW, YOU DID NOTEXPECT THAT.
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EXPECT THAT.I DIDN'T EXPECT THE STORY
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I DIDN'T EXPECT THE STORYTO GO THERE JUST NOW.
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TO GO THERE JUST NOW.THAT IS A STUNNING THING.
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THAT IS A STUNNING THING.WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT
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WHAT HAPPENED AT THATMOMENT?
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MOMENT?YOU'VE JUST BEEN SHOT
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YOU'VE JUST BEEN SHOTTWICE.
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TWICE.- RASHAWN: IT WENT FROM
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- RASHAWN: IT WENT FROMZERO TO 100, REAL QUICK.
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ZERO TO 100, REAL QUICK.IT LITERALLY TURNED INTO A
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I GOT UP, FAST AS I COULD.
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I GOT UP, FAST AS I COULD.THEY WALKED AWAY AND--
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THEY WALKED AWAY AND--WELL, THEY RAN AWAY.
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WELL, THEY RAN AWAY.I RAN THE OPPOSITE WAY
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I RAN THE OPPOSITE WAYTOWARDS THE CAR.
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TOWARDS THE CAR.AS I'M DARTIN' IT TOWARDS
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I DIVED AT THE LEFT SIDE OF
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I DIVED AT THE LEFT SIDE OFTHE CAR.
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THE CAR.I'M AT THE PASSENGER'S
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I'M AT THE PASSENGER'SSIDE AT THIS POINT.
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SIDE AT THIS POINT.I SEE THE DOOR IS OPEN ON
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I SEE THE DOOR IS OPEN ONTHE PASSENGER'S SIDE OF
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THE PASSENGER'S SIDE OFTHE DOOR.
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THE DOOR.AS I LOOK IN, THE GIRL IS
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AS I LOOK IN, THE GIRL ISGONE.
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GONE.I HEAR THIS VAN PEEL OUT.
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I HEAR THIS VAN PEEL OUT.SO NOW, IN MY MIND, I'M
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SO NOW, IN MY MIND, I'MTHINKIN' THEY'RE GONNA
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THINKIN' THEY'RE GONNACOME OVER AND FINISH ME
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COME OVER AND FINISH MEOFF.
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OFF.HE'S JUST GONNA PULL UP
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HE'S JUST GONNA PULL UPAND FINISH ME OFF.
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AND FINISH ME OFF.SO MY HEART'S BEATIN'.
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SO MY HEART'S BEATIN'.I'M NERVOUS.
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I'M NERVOUS.I'M SCARED OUT OF MY MIND.
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I'M SCARED OUT OF MY MIND.I'M DREADING DEATH
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I'M DREADING DEATHBECAUSE, ONE, I DIDN'T
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BECAUSE, ONE, I DIDN'TKNOW I WAS SHOT.
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KNOW I WAS SHOT.THE ADRENALINE WAS GOIN'
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THE ADRENALINE WAS GOIN'SO MUCH, BUT I KNEW THIS
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SO MUCH, BUT I KNEW THISWAS THE END.
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WAS THE END.I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THIS
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I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THISPLACE BEFORE.
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PLACE BEFORE.BUT AS I'M LAYIN' ON THIS
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BUT AS I'M LAYIN' ON THISCOLD CONCRETE, I BEGAN TO
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COLD CONCRETE, I BEGAN TOFEEL THIS WARM BLOOD RUN
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FEEL THIS WARM BLOOD RUNON MY BACK, AND, AT THAT
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ON MY BACK, AND, AT THATMOMENT, I KNEW I WAS GONNA
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MOMENT, I KNEW I WAS GONNADIE.
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DIE.I WAS WEAVIN' IN AND OUT
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I WAS WEAVIN' IN AND OUTOF CONSCIOUSNESS, AND I
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OF CONSCIOUSNESS, AND IWAS JUST SCARED OUT OF MY
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WAS JUST SCARED OUT OF MYMIND, AND AT THAT MOMENT,
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MIND, AND AT THAT MOMENT,I WAS THINKIN' THIS:
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I WAS THINKIN' THIS:"DID I EVER LIVE?"
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"DID I EVER LIVE?"YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE VERGE
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YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE VERGEOF DEATH RIGHT NOW, BUT
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AND WHAT I CAME TO REALIZE
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AND WHAT I CAME TO REALIZEIS THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE
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IS THAT THERE'S ONLY ONEPERSON I CAN CALL UPON,
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PERSON I CAN CALL UPON,AND I NEEDED TO CALL UPON
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I KNEW OF GOD.
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I KNEW OF GOD.I KNEW OF CHRIST.
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THE BAPTIST, PENTECOSTAL
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THE BAPTIST, PENTECOSTALPREACHER PREACH ABOUT
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PREACHER PREACH ABOUTCHRIST, BUT THAT NIGHT,
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CHRIST, BUT THAT NIGHT,HE BECAME REAL TO ME BECAUSE
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HE BECAME REAL TO ME BECAUSEI NEEDED HIM AT THAT
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I NEEDED HIM AT THATMOMENT, AND HE MET ME
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MOMENT, AND HE MET METHERE.
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THERE.AND THAT'S WHY I AM SO
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AND THAT'S WHY I AM SOTHANKFUL.
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THANKFUL.YOU KNOW, SOMETIME,
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YOU KNOW, SOMETIME,IT TAKES US BEING BROKEN,
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IT TAKES US BEING BROKEN,CRUSHED UNDER THE WEIGHT
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IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT OUR
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IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT OURNEED FOR HIM, AND THAT'S
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NEED FOR HIM, AND THAT'SWHERE HE MET ME.
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WHERE HE MET ME.- ERIC: WHAT YOU'RE
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- ERIC: WHAT YOU'REDESCRIBING, I GUESS-- LET
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DESCRIBING, I GUESS-- LETME ASK YOU: ARE YOU SAYING
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ME ASK YOU: ARE YOU SAYINGTHAT YOU THOUGHT OF GOD AT
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THAT YOU THOUGHT OF GOD ATTHAT TIME, AND SOMETHING
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WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE, THAT
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WHAT HAPPENED, LIKE, THATNIGHT WHILE YOU'RE AT THAT
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NIGHT WHILE YOU'RE AT THATPOINT RIGHT THERE?
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POINT RIGHT THERE?- RASHAWN: AT THAT POINT,
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- RASHAWN: AT THAT POINT,AS I BEGAN TO CRY OUT, YOU
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AS I BEGAN TO CRY OUT, YOUKNOW, PRAY THE BEST I
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KNOW, PRAY THE BEST ICOULD, YOU KNOW, IT FELT
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COULD, YOU KNOW, IT FELTLIKE AN ETERNITY.
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A PICKUP TRUCK PEELS IN,
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A PICKUP TRUCK PEELS IN,AND THE GUY JUMPS
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AND THE GUY JUMPSOUT, WHICH I CALL HIM AN
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OUT, WHICH I CALL HIM ANANGEL TO THIS DAY, AND HE
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ANGEL TO THIS DAY, AND HEWALKS OVER, AND HE PICKS
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WALKS OVER, AND HE PICKSME UP, AND HE THROWS ME IN
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ME UP, AND HE THROWS ME INTHE TRUCK, AND HE PEELS
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THE TRUCK, AND HE PEELSOUT, AND HE GETS ME TO THE
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OUT, AND HE GETS ME TO THEHOSPITAL, AND I'LL NEVER
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HOSPITAL, AND I'LL NEVERFORGET.
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FORGET.I NEVER SEEN THAT GUY
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I NEVER SEEN THAT GUYAGAIN, TO THIS DAY, AND HE
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AGAIN, TO THIS DAY, AND HESHOWED UP THAT NIGHT ON MY
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SHOWED UP THAT NIGHT ON MYDEEPEST, DARKEST MOMENT,
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DEEPEST, DARKEST MOMENT,AND GOD USED HIM TO GET ME
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AND GOD USED HIM TO GET METO THE HOSPITAL.
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TO THE HOSPITAL.- ERIC: AND WHAT DID THEY
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- ERIC: AND WHAT DID THEYDETERMINE?
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DETERMINE?YOU SAID YOU WERE IN PAIN.
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AND WHAT DID THE DOCTORS
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AND WHAT DID THE DOCTORSSAY THAT NIGHT?
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SAY THAT NIGHT?LIKE, I'M JUST TRYIN' TO
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LIKE, I'M JUST TRYIN' TOGET THIS STORY 'CAUSE THIS
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GET THIS STORY 'CAUSE THISIS SO CRAZY.
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IS SO CRAZY.- RASHAWN: YEAH, SO I WAS
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- RASHAWN: YEAH, SO I WASSHOT BEHIND MY LEG, AND IT
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SHOT BEHIND MY LEG, AND ITWAS TWO BULLETS, SO ONE
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WAS TWO BULLETS, SO ONEWENT STRAIGHT THROUGH MY
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WENT STRAIGHT THROUGH MYHAMSTRING.
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HAMSTRING.THANK GOD THAT IT MISSED
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THANK GOD THAT IT MISSEDTHAT BIG ARTERY, YOU KNOW,
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THAT BIG ARTERY, YOU KNOW,IN THE LEG BUT ALSO WENT
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IN THE LEG BUT ALSO WENTTHROUGH THE BACK OF THE
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IT NICKED-- THE SECOND WAS
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IT NICKED-- THE SECOND WASA FLESH WOUND.
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A FLESH WOUND.IT WENT THROUGH THE BACK
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IT WENT THROUGH THE BACKOF THE KNEE.
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OF THE KNEE.AND I'M THANKFUL IT DIDN'T
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AND I'M THANKFUL IT DIDN'THIT ANY BONES, NO ARTERIES.
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HIT ANY BONES, NO ARTERIES.- ERIC: SO, OBVIOUSLY,
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- ERIC: SO, OBVIOUSLY,WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS
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WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THISHAPPENS, IT GETS US
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HAPPENS, IT GETS USTHINKING ABOUT ULTIMATE
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THINKING ABOUT ULTIMATETHINGS.
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THINGS.IT GETS US THINKIN' ABOUT
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IT GETS US THINKIN' ABOUTGOD IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN
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GOD IF WE HAVEN'T BEENTHINKIN' ABOUT HIM BEFORE.
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FROM HERE ON IN, LIKE,
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FROM HERE ON IN, LIKE,DOES GOD COME IN TO YOUR
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DOES GOD COME IN TO YOURLIFE?
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LIFE?OR WHAT HAPPENS AFTER
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OR WHAT HAPPENS AFTERTHIS?
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THIS?- RASHAWN: AFTER THIS,
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- RASHAWN: AFTER THIS,WHAT WAS AMAZIN', A NURSE
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YOU KNOW, SPOKE.
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YOU KNOW, SPOKE.YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE A
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YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE ACHRISTIAN OR A CATHOLIC
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CHRISTIAN OR A CATHOLICHOSPITAL.
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HOSPITAL.BUT A NURSE SPOKE SOME
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BUT A NURSE SPOKE SOMEENCOURAGING WORDS OVER ME
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ENCOURAGING WORDS OVER MEAND GAVE ME A BIBLE,
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AND GAVE ME A BIBLE,AND WHEN I HAD LEFT THERE,
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AND WHEN I HAD LEFT THERE,YOU KNOW, I BEGAN TO, YOU
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YOU KNOW, I BEGAN TO, YOUKNOW, GET IN THE WORD OF
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KNOW, GET IN THE WORD OFGOD, GET INTO SCRIPTURE AS
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GOD, GET INTO SCRIPTURE ASI'M REALIZING THAT, ONE,
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I'M REALIZING THAT, ONE,MY DREAM, YOU KNOW, THE
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MY DREAM, YOU KNOW, THEFOOTBALL TEAM THAT WAS
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FOOTBALL TEAM THAT WASGONNA RECRUIT ME THAT I
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GONNA RECRUIT ME THAT IWAS IN LOVE WITH, YOU KNOW,
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WAS IN LOVE WITH, YOU KNOW,THEY SAID THEY CAN'T BRING
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THEY SAID THEY CAN'T BRINGIN THIS POTENTIAL "GANG
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IN THIS POTENTIAL "GANGMEMBER" ON THEIR TEAM, SO
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MEMBER" ON THEIR TEAM, SOI WAS LOSIN' MY
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I WAS LOSIN' MYSCHOLARSHIP, AND I BEGAN
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SCHOLARSHIP, AND I BEGANLOSING FRIENDS, THE GUYS
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LOSING FRIENDS, THE GUYSWHO WERE WITH ME.
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WHO WERE WITH ME.- ERIC: SO YOUR FUTURE
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- ERIC: SO YOUR FUTUREJUST EVAPORATES,
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JUST EVAPORATES,AND NOW YOU'RE-- I MEAN,
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AND NOW YOU'RE-- I MEAN,IT'S KIND OF STUNNING THAT
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IT'S KIND OF STUNNING THATYOU GO FROM THIS PATH,
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YOU GO FROM THIS PATH,AND THEN SUDDENLY THIS
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AND THEN SUDDENLY THISHAPPENS, AND YOU WERE--
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HAPPENS, AND YOU WERE--BUT, SO WERE YOU READING
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BUT, SO WERE YOU READINGTHE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN,
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THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN,OR DID YOU GET AROUND
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OR DID YOU GET AROUNDPEOPLE SUDDENLY THAT ARE
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PEOPLE SUDDENLY THAT AREREADING THE BIBLE?
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READING THE BIBLE?HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?
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HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?- RASHAWN: I END UP
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- RASHAWN: I END UPDRIFTING FROM GOD AS A,
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DRIFTING FROM GOD AS A,QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
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QUOTE, UNQUOTE,"PRODIGAL CHILD."
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"PRODIGAL CHILD."I DON'T EVEN KNOW
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I DON'T EVEN KNOWIF I WAS BORN AGAIN, BUT I
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IF I WAS BORN AGAIN, BUT IEND UP DRIFTIN' AWAY
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END UP DRIFTIN' AWAY'CAUSE THERE WAS NO
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'CAUSE THERE WAS NODISCIPLESHIP.
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DISCIPLESHIP.I TRIED MY BEST TO GET
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I TRIED MY BEST TO GETINTO HIS WORD, BUT THE
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INTO HIS WORD, BUT THEMOMENT PEOPLE START--
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MOMENT PEOPLE START--THE WRONG INFLUENCES CAME IN
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THE WRONG INFLUENCES CAME INWAS THE MOMENT I BEGAN TO
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WAS THE MOMENT I BEGAN TODRIFT AWAY, AND JUST LIKE
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"BLESSED IS HE WHO DOES
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"BLESSED IS HE WHO DOESNOT WALK IN STEP WITH THE
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NOT WALK IN STEP WITH THEWICKED NOR TAKE THE WAY
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WICKED NOR TAKE THE WAYTHAT SINNERS TAKE, NOR SIT
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THAT SINNERS TAKE, NOR SITIN THE COMPANY OF MOCKERS.
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IN THE COMPANY OF MOCKERS.BUT BLESSED IS HE WHO, YOU
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BUT BLESSED IS HE WHO, YOUKNOW, DELIGHTS HIS SELF IN
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KNOW, DELIGHTS HIS SELF INTHE LAW OF THE LORD,"
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THE LAW OF THE LORD,"BUT I WAS ON THE LEFT SIDE
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BUT I WAS ON THE LEFT SIDEOF THAT, YOU KNOW?
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OF THAT, YOU KNOW?I WAS WITH THE MOCKERS.
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I WAS WITH THE MOCKERS.I WAS WITH THE--
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I WAS WITH THE--- ERIC: THIS IS NOW AFTER
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- ERIC: THIS IS NOW AFTERHIGH SCHOOL?
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HIGH SCHOOL?YOU GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL,
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YOU GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL,OR IS THIS STILL HIGH
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- RASHAWN: WELL, THIS IS
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- RASHAWN: WELL, THIS ISAFTER NOW, WHEN I WAS IN
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AFTER NOW, WHEN I WAS INJUNIOR COLLEGE.
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JUNIOR COLLEGE.SO I END UP GETTIN'
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SO I END UP GETTIN'ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
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ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.I'VE RECOVERED.
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I WENT THROUGH P.T.,
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I WENT THROUGH P.T.,A PHYSICAL THERAPIST, AND I
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A PHYSICAL THERAPIST, AND IGOT BACK ON MY FEET, AND I
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GOT BACK ON MY FEET, AND IEND UP GETTING A
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END UP GETTING ASCHOLARSHIP TO A
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SCHOLARSHIP TO AJUNIOR COLLEGE,
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BUT A LOT OF THE JUCO GUYS
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BUT A LOT OF THE JUCO GUYSWERE THE INNER-CITY GUYS
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WERE THE INNER-CITY GUYSWHO WERE THE WEED SMOKERS,
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WHO WERE THE WEED SMOKERS,THE PILL POPPERS,
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THE PILL POPPERS,THE GUYS WHO WAS
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THE GUYS WHO WASSELLIN' DRUGS OR--
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SELLIN' DRUGS OR--- ERIC: YOU GOT IN WITH
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- ERIC: YOU GOT IN WITHA BAD CROWD AT THAT TIME?
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A BAD CROWD AT THAT TIME?- RASHAWN: YEAH, "BOOM,"
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- RASHAWN: YEAH, "BOOM,"AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
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AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.- ERIC: RASHAWN, WE'RE
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- ERIC: RASHAWN, WE'REGONNA GO TO A BREAK HERE.
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GONNA GO TO A BREAK HERE.FOLKS, I'M TALKIN' WITH
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FOLKS, I'M TALKIN' WITHRASHAWN COPELAND.
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RASHAWN COPELAND.THE BOOK IS
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THE BOOK IS"START WHERE YOU ARE:
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"START WHERE YOU ARE:HOW GOD MEETS YOU
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HOW GOD MEETS YOUIN YOUR MESS,
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IN YOUR MESS,LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,
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LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."
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LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."
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AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.[MUSIC]
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[MUSIC]- ERIC: HEY, THERE,
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- ERIC: HEY, THERE,FOLKS.
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FOLKS.I'M TALKING TO
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I'M TALKING TORASHAWN COPELAND.
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RASHAWN COPELAND.THE BOOK IS
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THE BOOK IS"START WHERE YOU ARE."
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"START WHERE YOU ARE."RASHAWN, YOUR STORY IS CRAZY.
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RASHAWN, YOUR STORY IS CRAZY.SO YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW,
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SO YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW,OKAY, YOU GET SHOT.
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OKAY, YOU GET SHOT.YOU GET THIS--
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YOU GET THIS--SOUNDS MIRACULOUS--
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SOUNDS MIRACULOUS--THING THAT SAVES
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THING THAT SAVESYOU FROM DYING.
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YOU FROM DYING.YOU KIND OF MEET GOD.
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YOU KIND OF MEET GOD.SOMEBODY GIVES YOU A BIBLE
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SOMEBODY GIVES YOU A BIBLEOR WHATEVER, BUT NOW YOUR
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OR WHATEVER, BUT NOW YOURPLANS HAVE CHANGED.
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PLANS HAVE CHANGED.YOU'RE NOT GOIN' TO ONE OF
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YOU'RE NOT GOIN' TO ONE OFTHESE BIG SCHOOLS OR
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THESE BIG SCHOOLS ORWHATEVER, AND NOW YOU FALL
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WHATEVER, AND NOW YOU FALLIN WITH THE WRONG CROWD.
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IN WITH THE WRONG CROWD.HOW LONG DOES THAT GO ON?
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HOW LONG DOES THAT GO ON?AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE
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- RASHAWN: I WAS
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- RASHAWN: I WASLITERALLY THE GUY TRYING
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LITERALLY THE GUY TRYINGTO FIT IN BECAUSE I DIDN'T
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TO FIT IN BECAUSE I DIDN'TKNOW WHAT IT REALLY LOOKED
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KNOW WHAT IT REALLY LOOKEDLIKE TO STAND OUT.
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LIKE TO STAND OUT.I WAS GETTIN' AROUND ALL
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I WAS GETTIN' AROUND ALLTHE WRONG DUDES.
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THE WRONG DUDES.WE'D GO CLUB AND STRIP
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YOU KNOW, IN THIS SMALL
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YOU KNOW, IN THIS SMALLTOWN, AND I WAS JUST
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TOWN, AND I WAS JUSTTRYIN' TO FIND MY IDENTITY
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TRYIN' TO FIND MY IDENTITYBECAUSE IT WAS ATTACHED TO
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BECAUSE IT WAS ATTACHED TOFOOTBALL, IT WAS ATTACHED
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FOOTBALL, IT WAS ATTACHEDTO WOMEN-- EVERYTHING,
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TO WOMEN-- EVERYTHING,AND THAT WAS A WAY OF NUMBIN'
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AND THAT WAS A WAY OF NUMBIN'THE PAIN FOR ME.
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THE PAIN FOR ME.BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED,
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BUT HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED,ERIC.
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ERIC.AS I BEGAN TO BECOME,
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AS I BEGAN TO BECOME,YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL ON THE
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YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL ON THEFIELD AT JUCO A BIT, I GOT
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FIELD AT JUCO A BIT, I GOTA OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO
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A OPPORTUNITY TO GO TOUNIVERSITY OF KANSAS AND
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SORT OF, SCENE WHERE YOU
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SORT OF, SCENE WHERE YOUHAVE MORE ATHLETES, MORE
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HAVE MORE ATHLETES, MOREPRESTIGE, MORE WOMEN,
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PRESTIGE, MORE WOMEN,MORE EVERYTHING.
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MORE EVERYTHING.SO I WENT DOWN THAT RABBIT
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SO I WENT DOWN THAT RABBITHOLE, JUST LIKE,
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HOLE, JUST LIKE,"HERE, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER,
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"HERE, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER,A LITTLE BIT BETTER,"
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A LITTLE BIT BETTER,"SO LET ME GO HARDER,
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SO LET ME GO HARDER,AND WHAT ENDS UP
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AND WHAT ENDS UPHAPPENING IS I FIND
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HAPPENING IS I FINDOUT THAT, LIKE, AFTER
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OUT THAT, LIKE, AFTERALL THIS CLUBBIN', I FIND
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ALL THIS CLUBBIN', I FINDOUT THAT I'M ABOUT TO HAVE
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OUT THAT I'M ABOUT TO HAVEA BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK, YOU
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A BABY OUT OF WEDLOCK, YOUKNOW, 'CAUSE I WAS
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KNOW, 'CAUSE I WASSLEEPIN' AROUND, SO I HAD
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SLEEPIN' AROUND, SO I HADA BABY WITH ONE OF MY
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A BABY WITH ONE OF MYFRIENDS THAT I WAS IN
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FRIENDS THAT I WAS INCOLLEGE WITH.
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COLLEGE WITH.COME TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW,
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THERE'S REAL
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THERE'S REALRESPONSIBILITIES THAT
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RESPONSIBILITIES THATCOME, YOU KNOW, IN LIFE,
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COME, YOU KNOW, IN LIFE,AND I STARTED TAKIN' LIFE
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AND I STARTED TAKIN' LIFEA LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS,
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A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS,AND I WANTED TO BECOME A
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AND I WANTED TO BECOME ABETTER MAN.
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BETTER MAN.SO WE END UP MOVING, AND I
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SO WE END UP MOVING, AND ITRANSFERRED TO A SMALLER
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TRANSFERRED TO A SMALLERSCHOOL IN OKLAHOMA, WHICH
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SCHOOL IN OKLAHOMA, WHICHWAS A DIVISION 2 SCHOOL,
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WAS A DIVISION 2 SCHOOL,AND IT SLOWED DOWN A BIT,
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AND IT SLOWED DOWN A BIT,AND AS I WAS AT THIS SCHOOL,
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AND AS I WAS AT THIS SCHOOL,THE REALITY HIT THAT I'M
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THE REALITY HIT THAT I'MNOT GONNA BE SOME NFL STAR
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NOT GONNA BE SOME NFL STAROR GO INTO THE CFL.
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OR GO INTO THE CFL.THESE BIG OPPORTUNITIES
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THESE BIG OPPORTUNITIESAREN'T GOIN' TO HAPPEN FOR
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AREN'T GOIN' TO HAPPEN FORME ANYMORE.
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ME ANYMORE.SO I LOOK AT MY DAD'S LIFE
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SO I LOOK AT MY DAD'S LIFEAS A ARMY-- OR, WELL, HE
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AS A ARMY-- OR, WELL, HEWAS ACTUALLY A COAST GUARD
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WAS ACTUALLY A COAST GUARDPETTY OFFICER, AND I WAS
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PETTY OFFICER, AND I WASLIKE, "MAYBE I CAN COMPETE
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LIKE, "MAYBE I CAN COMPETEWITH MY DAD.
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WITH MY DAD.MAYBE I CAN WIN HIS
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MAYBE I CAN WIN HISAPPROVAL NOW AND BECOME A
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APPROVAL NOW AND BECOME AARMY OFFICER.
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ARMY OFFICER.SO LET ME PURSUE.
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SO LET ME PURSUE.TAKE MY LITTLE 2.5 GPA,
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TAKE MY LITTLE 2.5 GPA,TRY TO PURSUE ACADEMICS AS
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TRY TO PURSUE ACADEMICS ASHARD AS I CAN, JOIN THE
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HARD AS I CAN, JOIN THEROTC, AND PROVE TO MY DAD
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ROTC, AND PROVE TO MY DADTHAT I CAN BE THIS MAN FOR
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THAT I CAN BE THIS MAN FORHIM AND MAKE HIM HAPPY,
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HIM AND MAKE HIM HAPPY,MAKE HIM PROUD 'CAUSE
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MAKE HIM PROUD 'CAUSETHAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED
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THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTEDTO DO,
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TO DO,AND I END UP JOININ' THE ROTC,
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AND I END UP JOININ' THE ROTC,BEGAN DOIN' REALLY GREAT
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BEGAN DOIN' REALLY GREATAT THAT, AND I
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AT THAT, AND ICOMMISSIONED INTO THE ARMY.
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COMMISSIONED INTO THE ARMY.AND WHEN I WENT TO ARMY
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AND WHEN I WENT TO ARMYMEDICAL SCHOOL, IT SORT OF
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MEDICAL SCHOOL, IT SORT OFWENT BACK INTO THAT
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WENT BACK INTO THATSPIRAL, AND I END UP,
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SPIRAL, AND I END UP,YEAH, ACTIN' A FOOL,
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YEAH, ACTIN' A FOOL,SLEEPIN' AROUND.
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SLEEPIN' AROUND.I WASN'T MARRIED TO THE
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I WASN'T MARRIED TO THEGIRL I WAS WITH THAT HAD MY
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GIRL I WAS WITH THAT HAD MYSON, AND I WENT DOWN THIS,
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SON, AND I WENT DOWN THIS,AGAIN, DARK RABBIT HOLE
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AGAIN, DARK RABBIT HOLEWHICH LED TO REALLY A
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WHICH LED TO REALLY ABROKEN MOMENT, BUT THE WAY
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BROKEN MOMENT, BUT THE WAYI CAME TO CHRIST, ONCE AND
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I CAME TO CHRIST, ONCE ANDFOR ALL, I WAS IN L.A.
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FOR ALL, I WAS IN L.A.WHEN I WAS A HYPE MAN FOR
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WHEN I WAS A HYPE MAN FORA GUY NAMED SOULJA BOY,
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A GUY NAMED SOULJA BOY,SO I ALMOST WENT, LIKE,
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SO I ALMOST WENT, LIKE,AWOL FROM THE MILITARY
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AWOL FROM THE MILITARYJUST SO I CAN GO PURSUE THIS--
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JUST SO I CAN GO PURSUE THIS--- ERIC: YOU WERE A WHAT?
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- ERIC: YOU WERE A WHAT?YOU WERE A HOT--WHAT?
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YOU WERE A HOT--WHAT?- RASHAWN: A HYPE MAN.
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- RASHAWN: A HYPE MAN.- ERIC: WHAT IS THAT?
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- ERIC: WHAT IS THAT?- RASHAWN: BASICALLY,
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- RASHAWN: BASICALLY,IT'S EMCEE.
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IT'S EMCEE.IT'S LIKE A GLORIFIED HOST
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IT'S LIKE A GLORIFIED HOSTAT RAP SHOWS.
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AT RAP SHOWS.- ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU WERE--
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- ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU WERE--SOMEHOW, YOU GOT INTO THAT.
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SOMEHOW, YOU GOT INTO THAT.- RASHAWN: EXACTLY.
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- RASHAWN: EXACTLY.- ERIC: AND IN THE MIDDLE
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- ERIC: AND IN THE MIDDLEOF THAT, SOMEHOW GOD
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OF THAT, SOMEHOW GODTACKLED YOU.
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TACKLED YOU.- RASHAWN: YES, IT WAS A
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- RASHAWN: YES, IT WAS ACRAZY JOURNEY.
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CRAZY JOURNEY.I WAS SO EVERYWHERE WITH
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I WAS SO EVERYWHERE WITHMY IDENTITY 'CAUSE I WAS
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MY IDENTITY 'CAUSE I WASWEARING THIS-- I WAS
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WEARING THIS-- I WASWEARING PROUDLY THIS
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WEARING PROUDLY THISAMERICAN U.S. ARMY UNIFORM,
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AMERICAN U.S. ARMY UNIFORM,HAD, YOU KNOW,
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HAD, YOU KNOW,MY LITTLE OFFICER RANK.
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MY LITTLE OFFICER RANK.I WAS PROUD OF EVERYTHING.
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I WAS PROUD OF EVERYTHING.I WAS MAKIN' MY DAD, YOU
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I WAS MAKIN' MY DAD, YOUKNOW, HAPPY.
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KNOW, HAPPY.THERE WAS THIS GLORIOUS
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THERE WAS THIS GLORIOUSSIDE OF RASHAWN, AND THEN
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SIDE OF RASHAWN, AND THENTHERE WAS THIS DARK SIDE
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THERE WAS THIS DARK SIDETHAT I WAS HIDIN' IN THE
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THAT I WAS HIDIN' IN THESHADOWS OF MY OWN LUST
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SHADOWS OF MY OWN LUSTAND MY OWN, YOU KNOW,
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AND MY OWN, YOU KNOW,DESIRES THAT WAS REALLY,
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DESIRES THAT WAS REALLY,REALLY DARK, AND THEN THAT
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REALLY DARK, AND THEN THATSIDE WON OVER.
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SIDE WON OVER.YOU KNOW, I SEEN MY
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YOU KNOW, I SEEN MYCOUSIN.
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COUSIN.HE WAS OUT IN L.A.
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HE WAS OUT IN L.A.HE WAS WORKIN' WITH PEOPLE
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HE WAS WORKIN' WITH PEOPLELIKE ZAC EFRON.
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LIKE ZAC EFRON.HE WAS THE ONLY BLACK GUY
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HE WAS THE ONLY BLACK GUYIN THE MOVIE "AMERICAN PIE."
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IN THE MOVIE "AMERICAN PIE."I WAS LIKE, "LET ME
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I WAS LIKE, "LET MEGO OUT THERE AND PURSUE
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GO OUT THERE AND PURSUETHAT DREAM THAT MY COUSIN
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THAT DREAM THAT MY COUSINIS DOIN' 'CAUSE,
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IS DOIN' 'CAUSE,YOU KNOW, COMPARISON AND
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YOU KNOW, COMPARISON ANDENVY, YOU KNOW, REALLY
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ENVY, YOU KNOW, REALLYDROVE ME THERE TO GO, SORT OF,
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DROVE ME THERE TO GO, SORT OF,COMPETE, MAYBE EVEN A
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COMPETE, MAYBE EVEN ALITTLE DISCONTENTMENT,
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LITTLE DISCONTENTMENT,AND I GET OUT THERE WITH HIM.
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AND I GET OUT THERE WITH HIM.AND, AT THAT POINT,
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AND, AT THAT POINT,I'M LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO
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I'M LITERALLY JUST TRYING TOCLIMB THE LADDER OF, YEAH,
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CLIMB THE LADDER OF, YEAH,L.A./HOLLYWOOD FAME, THE
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L.A./HOLLYWOOD FAME, THERIDE THAT ROCKET SHIP IN.
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RIDE THAT ROCKET SHIP IN.AGAIN, IT WILL PLUMMET A
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AGAIN, IT WILL PLUMMET ALITTLE BIT LATER, BUT,
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LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT,YEAH, IT WAS JUST A TOUGH
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YEAH, IT WAS JUST A TOUGHTIME FOR ME TRYING TO
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TIME FOR ME TRYING TOFIGURE OUT MY IDENTITY
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FIGURE OUT MY IDENTITY'CAUSE IT WAS EVERYWHERE.
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'CAUSE IT WAS EVERYWHERE.- ERIC: AND WHEN DID YOU
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- ERIC: AND WHEN DID YOUBUMP INTO GOD FOR SURE?
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BUMP INTO GOD FOR SURE?- RASHAWN: SO HERE'S THAT
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- RASHAWN: SO HERE'S THATMOMENT WHERE I WAS AT MY
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MOMENT WHERE I WAS AT MYDARK POINT.
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DARK POINT.SO I WAS IN THIS HOME IN
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SO I WAS IN THIS HOME INL.A.
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L.A.YOU KNOW, THINGS WERE
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YOU KNOW, THINGS WEREGREAT ON THE OUTSIDE,
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GREAT ON THE OUTSIDE,BUT DESPITE THE SUCCESS ON THE
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BUT DESPITE THE SUCCESS ON THEOUTSIDE, I WAS MISERABLE.
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OUTSIDE, I WAS MISERABLE.AND, ONE NIGHT, I WAS
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AND, ONE NIGHT, I WASGONNA TAKE MY LIFE.
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GONNA TAKE MY LIFE.SO I GO DOWN THE HALL.
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SO I GO DOWN THE HALL.I OPEN UP THE LOCKER WHERE
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I OPEN UP THE LOCKER WHERETHE PISTOL WAS, AND I WAS
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THE PISTOL WAS, AND I WASLIKE, "I'M JUST DONE WITH IT."
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LIKE, "I'M JUST DONE WITH IT."YOU KNOW, "THERE'S
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YOU KNOW, "THERE'SNO HOPE BEYOND THIS."
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NO HOPE BEYOND THIS."- ERIC: YOU WERE GONNA TAKE
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- ERIC: YOU WERE GONNA TAKEYOUR LIFE?
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YOUR LIFE?- RASHAWN: YEAH, YEAH.
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- RASHAWN: YEAH, YEAH.- ERIC: SO YOU'RE TELLING
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- ERIC: SO YOU'RE TELLINGME THAT ALL THIS STUFF
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ME THAT ALL THIS STUFFGOES ON AND ON, AND YOU GO
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GOES ON AND ON, AND YOU GOFROM HERE TO THERE, HERE
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FROM HERE TO THERE, HERETO THERE, AND NOW YOU
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TO THERE, AND NOW YOUCOME-- THINGS GET SO BAD--
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COME-- THINGS GET SO BAD--- RASHAWN: YEAH.
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- RASHAWN: YEAH.- ERIC: -- THAT YOU'RE
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- ERIC: -- THAT YOU'REGONNA TAKE YOUR LIFE?
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GONNA TAKE YOUR LIFE?HOW OLD WERE YOU AT THAT
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HOW OLD WERE YOU AT THATTIME, RASHAWN?
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TIME, RASHAWN?> RASHAWN: I WAS EXACTLY
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> RASHAWN: I WAS EXACTLY25 YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME,
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25 YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME,SO IT WAS LESS THAN A
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SO IT WAS LESS THAN ADECADE AGO AND--
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DECADE AGO AND--- ERIC: AND WHY WERE
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- ERIC: AND WHY WERETHINGS SO BAD THAT YOU
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THINGS SO BAD THAT YOUWERE GOING TO KILL YOURSELF?
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WERE GOING TO KILL YOURSELF?- RASHAWN: HERE'S THE
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- RASHAWN: HERE'S THETHING, WHAT I'VE LEARNED
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THING, WHAT I'VE LEARNEDMORE AND MORE.
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MORE AND MORE.LIKE, SIN PROMISED ME
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LIKE, SIN PROMISED MEFREEDOM, BUT IT DIDN'T--
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FREEDOM, BUT IT DIDN'T--NEVER DELIVERED ON IT.
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NEVER DELIVERED ON IT.IT PROMISED ME FUN,
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IT PROMISED ME FUN,BUT IT WAS UTTERLY EMPTY.
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BUT IT WAS UTTERLY EMPTY.IT PROMISED ME ALL THIS
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IT PROMISED ME ALL THISSTUFF, BUT, LITERALLY,
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STUFF, BUT, LITERALLY,IT KILLED MY PEACE.
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IT KILLED MY PEACE.IT STOLE MY JOY, AND IT
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IT STOLE MY JOY, AND ITSUFFOCATED MY SANITY.
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SUFFOCATED MY SANITY.AND, AT THAT POINT,
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AND, AT THAT POINT,I WAS LIKE, "WHY?
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I WAS LIKE, "WHY?WHY AM I HERE?"
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WHY AM I HERE?"LIKE IF THIS WASN'T A HOT
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LIKE IF THIS WASN'T A HOTPURSUIT, I DID EVERYTHING
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PURSUIT, I DID EVERYTHINGI COULD.
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I COULD.SO I'M IN THE ROOM.
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SO I'M IN THE ROOM.I FINALLY GET BACK TO THE
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I FINALLY GET BACK TO THEROOM, WHICH IT FELT LIKE
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ROOM, WHICH IT FELT LIKEAN ETERNITY, WALKIN' DOWN
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AN ETERNITY, WALKIN' DOWNTHAT HALLWAY.
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THAT HALLWAY.AND I GET ON MY KNEES, AND
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AND I GET ON MY KNEES, ANDI'M SHAKIN',
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I'M SHAKIN',AND I'M PUTTIN' THE GUN IN
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AND I'M PUTTIN' THE GUN INMY MOUTH, THE PISTOL IN MY
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MY MOUTH, THE PISTOL IN MYMOUTH, AND I'M TAKIN' IT
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MOUTH, AND I'M TAKIN' ITOUT, AND I'M QUESTIONING.
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OUT, AND I'M QUESTIONING.I'M PICKIN' IT BACK UP AND
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I'M PICKIN' IT BACK UP ANDPUTTIN' IT INTO MY MOUTH,
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PUTTIN' IT INTO MY MOUTH,AND I'M SHAKIN', AND I'M
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AND I'M SHAKIN', AND I'MTAKIN' IT BACK OUT.
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TAKIN' IT BACK OUT.AND I'M THINKIN' OF SO
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AND I'M THINKIN' OF SOMANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
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MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT
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THE FIRST THING I THOUGHTOF WHEN THE PISTOL WAS IN
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OF WHEN THE PISTOL WAS INMY MOUTH, THE VERY FIRST
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MY MOUTH, THE VERY FIRSTTHING I THOUGHT OF IS, ONE,
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THING I THOUGHT OF IS, ONE,"IF I WERE TO TAKE MY
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"IF I WERE TO TAKE MYLIFE RIGHT NOW AND DIE, IF
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LIFE RIGHT NOW AND DIE, IFI WERE TO DIE, I'M GONNA
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I WERE TO DIE, I'M GONNAHAVE TO MEET NOT ONLY THIS
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HAVE TO MEET NOT ONLY THISOMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT,
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OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT,ALL-KNOWING, ALL-SEEING
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ALL-KNOWING, ALL-SEEINGGOD, WHO IS SO LOVING,
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GOD, WHO IS SO LOVING,BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO MEET
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BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO MEETTHIS JUDGE, THE ONE WHO
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THIS JUDGE, THE ONE WHOCREATED ME.
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CREATED ME.I'M GONNA HAVE TO STAND
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I'M GONNA HAVE TO STANDBEFORE HIM.
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BEFORE HIM.BUT, NUMBER TWO, IF I WERE
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BUT, NUMBER TWO, IF I WERETO TAKE MY LIFE RIGHT NOW
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TO TAKE MY LIFE RIGHT NOWAND LIVE,
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AND LIVE,I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO
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I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GOTHROUGH THAT SAME PAIN
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THROUGH THAT SAME PAINTHAT I WENT THROUGH AS A
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THAT I WENT THROUGH AS A17-YEAR-OLD BOY, SITTIN'
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17-YEAR-OLD BOY, SITTIN'OUT ON THAT PARKIN' LOT
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OUT ON THAT PARKIN' LOTTHAT COLD NIGHT WITH THAT
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THAT COLD NIGHT WITH THATWARM BLOOD GOIN' DOWN MY
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WARM BLOOD GOIN' DOWN MYBACK, AND I DON'T WANNA GO
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BACK, AND I DON'T WANNA GOTHROUGH THAT PAIN NO MORE.
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THROUGH THAT PAIN NO MORE.I KNOW THE HAVOC THAT THE
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I KNOW THE HAVOC THAT THEBULLET DOES TO A HUMAN BODY,
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BULLET DOES TO A HUMAN BODY,I DON'T WANNA GO
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I DON'T WANNA GOTHROUGH THAT AGAIN.
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THROUGH THAT AGAIN.SO I'M LIKE, "GOD, SHOW UP."
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SO I'M LIKE, "GOD, SHOW UP."LIKE, "MEET ME WHERE I AM."
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LIKE, "MEET ME WHERE I AM."LIKE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY
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LIKE, THAT'S ESSENTIALLYWHAT I WAS SAYIN'.
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WHAT I WAS SAYIN'."I NEED YOU.
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"I NEED YOU.IF YOU'RE REAL, PLEASE
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IF YOU'RE REAL, PLEASESHOW ME AND REVEAL
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SHOW ME AND REVEALYOURSELF TO ME."
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YOURSELF TO ME."AND THEN, OUT OF NOWHERE,
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AND THEN, OUT OF NOWHERE,BROTHER, MY PHONE LIGHTS
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BROTHER, MY PHONE LIGHTSUP OUT OF NOWHERE, AND THE
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UP OUT OF NOWHERE, AND THEONLY CHRISTIAN GIRL I WAS
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ONLY CHRISTIAN GIRL I WASFOLLOWING THAT WENT TO
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FOLLOWING THAT WENT TOBAYLOR UNIVERSITY HAD
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BAYLOR UNIVERSITY HADJUST, YOU KNOW, WROTE ME A
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JUST, YOU KNOW, WROTE ME AMESSAGE.
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MESSAGE.WELL, SHE SENT A POST, AND
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WELL, SHE SENT A POST, ANDIT SAID THIS AS I OPEN IT
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IT SAID THIS AS I OPEN ITUP: "OH, HOW WIDE, HOW
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UP: "OH, HOW WIDE, HOWDEEP, HOW VAST THE LOVE OF
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DEEP, HOW VAST THE LOVE OFGOD IS, AND NOTHING IN ALL
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GOD IS, AND NOTHING IN ALLCREATION CAN SEPARATE US
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CREATION CAN SEPARATE USFROM THIS LOVE THAT'S
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FROM THIS LOVE THAT'SFOUND IN CHRIST JESUS."
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FOUND IN CHRIST JESUS."AND AS I WAS READING IT,
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AND AS I WAS READING IT,ERIC, AND READING IT,
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ERIC, AND READING IT,I BEGAN WEEPIN' AND WEEPIN'.
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I BEGAN WEEPIN' AND WEEPIN'.FOR THE FIRST TIME,
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FOR THE FIRST TIME,I UNLOAD MY HEAVY SOUL TO
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I UNLOAD MY HEAVY SOUL TOTHE GOD WHO KNEW ME AND
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THE GOD WHO KNEW ME ANDKNOWS ME, AND HE MET ME
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KNOWS ME, AND HE MET METHERE, BRO, AND I FELT HIS
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THERE, BRO, AND I FELT HISPRESENCE, AND THERE WAS SO
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PRESENCE, AND THERE WAS SOMUCH MORE THAN HAPPENED
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MUCH MORE THAN HAPPENEDTHAT SAME NIGHT, AFTER
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THAT SAME NIGHT, AFTERTHAT, WHERE I WAS JUST,
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THAT, WHERE I WAS JUST,YOU KNOW, LITERALLY
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YOU KNOW, LITERALLYUNLOADIN' MYSELF TO GOD
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UNLOADIN' MYSELF TO GODAND HIM FILLIN' ME BACK UP.
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AND HIM FILLIN' ME BACK UP.BUT IT WAS JUST AMAZIN'.
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BUT IT WAS JUST AMAZIN'.I'VE GENUINELY, LIKE,
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I'VE GENUINELY, LIKE,REPENTED OF ALL MY SIN AND
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REPENTED OF ALL MY SIN ANDMY BROKENNESS, AND I MET HIM.
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MY BROKENNESS, AND I MET HIM.YEAH, I CRIED OUT TO HIM
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YEAH, I CRIED OUT TO HIMLIKE I NEVER HAVE BEFORE.
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LIKE I NEVER HAVE BEFORE.- ERIC: WE'LL NEVER
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- ERIC: WE'LL NEVERUNDERSTAND UNTIL WE GET TO
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UNDERSTAND UNTIL WE GET TOGLORY TO ASK GOD, LIKE,
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GLORY TO ASK GOD, LIKE,"WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO
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"WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TOGET THAT LOW THAT I HAVE A
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GET THAT LOW THAT I HAVE AGUN IN MY MOUTH--"
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GUN IN MY MOUTH--"AND THEN GET A MESSAGE ON YOUR
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AND THEN GET A MESSAGE ON YOURPHONE THAT IS YOUR ANSWER,
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PHONE THAT IS YOUR ANSWER,AND FOR SOME REASON, AT
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AND FOR SOME REASON, ATTHAT MOMENT, THAT ANSWER,
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THAT MOMENT, THAT ANSWER,YOU LET IT IN, AND IT
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YOU LET IT IN, AND ITCHANGED YOU THAT NIGHT.
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CHANGED YOU THAT NIGHT.YOU KNOW, IT WENT ALL THE
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YOU KNOW, IT WENT ALL THEWAY IN.
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WAY IN.I GUESS, IF YOU HADN'T
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I GUESS, IF YOU HADN'TBEEN SO LOW, YOU MIGHT'VE
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BEEN SO LOW, YOU MIGHT'VEBATTED IT AWAY, BUT YOU
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BATTED IT AWAY, BUT YOUWERE SO LOW, LIFE AND
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WERE SO LOW, LIFE ANDDEATH, AND THAT YOU LET IT
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DEATH, AND THAT YOU LET ITIN, AND THAT'S LIKE--
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IN, AND THAT'S LIKE--WHAT?
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WHAT?EIGHT YEARS AGO,
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EIGHT YEARS AGO,AND YOUR LIFE COULD NOT BE
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AND YOUR LIFE COULD NOT BEMORE DIFFERENT.
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MORE DIFFERENT.YOU'VE BEEN-- I MEAN, JUST
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YOU'VE BEEN-- I MEAN, JUSTFOR MY AUDIENCE, TELL MY
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FOR MY AUDIENCE, TELL MYAUDIENCE WHAT HAS HAPPENED
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AUDIENCE WHAT HAS HAPPENEDSINCE THEN.
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SINCE THEN.- RASHAWN: YOU KNOW,
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- RASHAWN: YOU KNOW,GOIN' THROUGH THAT DARK
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GOIN' THROUGH THAT DARKBOUT OF DEPRESSION,
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BOUT OF DEPRESSION,I BEGAN WRESTLIN' WITH GOD
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I BEGAN WRESTLIN' WITH GODLIKE JACOB, AND HE
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LIKE JACOB, AND HEREVEALED HIMSELF TO ME
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REVEALED HIMSELF TO MEEVEN IN A CLEARER WAY.
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EVEN IN A CLEARER WAY.THAT MORNING, THE NEXT
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THAT MORNING, THE NEXTMORNING I WOKE UP, I HAD
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MORNING I WOKE UP, I HADTHIS PROMPTING TO LOOK
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THIS PROMPTING TO LOOKUNDERNEATH MY BED.
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UNDERNEATH MY BED.LIKE, THERE WAS SOMETHIN',
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LIKE, THERE WAS SOMETHIN',YOU KNOW, THAT JUST DROVE
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YOU KNOW, THAT JUST DROVEME TO LOOK UNDERNEATH MY
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ME TO LOOK UNDERNEATH MYBED, AND AS I LOOK
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BED, AND AS I LOOKUNDERNEATH MY BED AND I
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UNDERNEATH MY BED AND IPULL OUT A SUITCASE I'VE
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PULL OUT A SUITCASE I'VENEVER SEEN BEFORE IN THE
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NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN THEHOUSE-- I'VE NEVER SEEN
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HOUSE-- I'VE NEVER SEENTHIS SUITCASE BEFORE.
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THIS SUITCASE BEFORE.AS I CRACK IT OPEN AND IT
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AS I CRACK IT OPEN AND ITGOES OPEN-- IT JUST OPENS
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GOES OPEN-- IT JUST OPENSUP-- AND ON THE TOP OF IT,
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UP-- AND ON THE TOP OF IT,IT WAS DIRTY CLOTHES, BUT
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IT WAS DIRTY CLOTHES, BUTIT WAS THIS TREASURE THAT
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IT WAS THIS TREASURE THATI'LL NEVER FORGET, BUT IT
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I'LL NEVER FORGET, BUT ITWAS A BOOK.
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WAS A BOOK.GUESS WHAT BOOK IT WAS?
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GUESS WHAT BOOK IT WAS?THE BIBLE, THE B-I-B-L-E.
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THE BIBLE, THE B-I-B-L-E.THAT'S THE BOOK.
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THAT'S THE BOOK.- ERIC: THE BIBLE--
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- ERIC: THE BIBLE--- RASHAWN: YES, YES.
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- RASHAWN: YES, YES.- ERIC: -- UNDER THE BED
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- ERIC: -- UNDER THE BEDIN A SUITCASE YOU DIDN'T
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IN A SUITCASE YOU DIDN'TKNOW WAS THERE?
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KNOW WAS THERE?- RASHAWN: EXACTLY, AND
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- RASHAWN: EXACTLY, ANDWHEN I CRACK IT OPEN, ERIC,
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WHEN I CRACK IT OPEN, ERIC,I GO OVER TO THE RED LETTERS.
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I GO OVER TO THE RED LETTERS.THAT WAS THE FIRST THING
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THAT WAS THE FIRST THINGTHAT STUCK OUT, RIGHT?
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THAT STUCK OUT, RIGHT?AND AS I GO OVER TO THE
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AND AS I GO OVER TO THERED LETTERS, I READ THESE
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RED LETTERS, I READ THESEWORDS, AND IT HIT ME
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WORDS, AND IT HIT MEHEAD-ON LIKE A SEMITRUCK.
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HEAD-ON LIKE A SEMITRUCK.IT SAID THIS: "HE THAT
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IT SAID THIS: "HE THATWANTS TO KEEP HIS LIFE
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WANTS TO KEEP HIS LIFEMUST LOSE IT, BUT HE THAT
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MUST LOSE IT, BUT HE THATLOSES HIS LIFE FOR MY
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LOSES HIS LIFE FOR MYNAME'S SAKE SHALL GAIN IT."
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NAME'S SAKE SHALL GAIN IT."AND THEN IT WENT OFF
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AND THEN IT WENT OFFTO SAY THIS, AND I WAS LIKE--
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TO SAY THIS, AND I WAS LIKE--[GASPS]
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[GASPS]IT STOPPED ME RIGHT IN MY
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IT STOPPED ME RIGHT IN MYTRACKS, BUT IT SAID, "WHAT
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TRACKS, BUT IT SAID, "WHATDOES IT PROFIT A MAN TO
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DOES IT PROFIT A MAN TOGAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT,
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GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT,YET LOSE HIS SOUL?"
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YET LOSE HIS SOUL?"IT NEVER STUCK OUT TO ME,
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IT NEVER STUCK OUT TO ME,YOU KNOW, MY FRAILTY, MY
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YOU KNOW, MY FRAILTY, MYBROKENNESS, MY NEED FOR
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BROKENNESS, MY NEED FORGOD, AS MUCH AS IT DID IN
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GOD, AS MUCH AS IT DID INTHAT MOMENT, AND I
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THAT MOMENT, AND ILITERALLY LEFT EVERYTHING,
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LITERALLY LEFT EVERYTHING,ERIC, AND I JUMPED ON THE
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ERIC, AND I JUMPED ON THEGREYHOUND BUS, STOLE THAT
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GREYHOUND BUS, STOLE THATBIBLE-- MATTER OF FACT,
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BIBLE-- MATTER OF FACT,THE BIBLE'S THE NUMBER
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THE BIBLE'S THE NUMBERONE STOLEN BOOK IN THE
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ONE STOLEN BOOK IN THEWORLD.
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WORLD.I DON'T KNOW WHOSE BIBLE
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I DON'T KNOW WHOSE BIBLEIT WAS, BUT I TOOK IT THAT
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IT WAS, BUT I TOOK IT THATDAY AS I LEFT THERE, AND I
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DAY AS I LEFT THERE, AND ILITERALLY FELL IN LOVE
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LITERALLY FELL IN LOVEWITH THE WORD OF GOD--
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WITH THE WORD OF GOD--READ IT, READ IT, READ IT
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READ IT, READ IT, READ ITUNTIL IT READ ME, AND IT
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UNTIL IT READ ME, AND ITCHANGED EVERYTHING, BRO.
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CHANGED EVERYTHING, BRO.AND I GOT ON THE BUS-- WAS
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AND I GOT ON THE BUS-- WASTHE PRODIGAL CHILD HEADED
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THE PRODIGAL CHILD HEADEDBACK TO OKLAHOMA,
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BACK TO OKLAHOMA,AND NOW I'M RIGHT BACK
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AND NOW I'M RIGHT BACKHERE IN THE BIBLE BELT--
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HERE IN THE BIBLE BELT--NEVER LOOKED BACK AND
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NEVER LOOKED BACK ANDNEVER TURNED-- I WILL NOT
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NEVER TURNED-- I WILL NOTTURN BACK, BUT HE MET ME
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TURN BACK, BUT HE MET MEWHERE I WAS, AND HE'S
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WHERE I WAS, AND HE'STAKING ME WHERE I NEED TO
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TAKING ME WHERE I NEED TOBE, BRO.
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BE, BRO.- ERIC: TODAY YOU ARE A
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- ERIC: TODAY YOU ARE AFATHER AND A HUSBAND AND A
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FATHER AND A HUSBAND AND AMINISTER.
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MINISTER.WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU
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WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOUCAME BACK TO OKLAHOMA CITY,
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CAME BACK TO OKLAHOMA CITY,YOU KNOW, THESE
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YOU KNOW, THESEYEARS AGO NOW?
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YEARS AGO NOW?WHAT DID YOU DO?
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WHAT DID YOU DO?HOW DID YOU-- DID YOU GET
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HOW DID YOU-- DID YOU GETINVOLVED IN MINISTRY RIGHT
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INVOLVED IN MINISTRY RIGHTAWAY?
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AWAY?HOW DID YOU-- WHAT HAPPENS
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- RASHAWN: GOD LAUNCHED
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- RASHAWN: GOD LAUNCHEDMY MINISTRY IN A COUNTY
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MY MINISTRY IN A COUNTYJAIL WHERE I WILL
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JAIL WHERE I WILLLITERALLY GO AND SHARE THE
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LITERALLY GO AND SHARE THEGOSPEL, BUT IT TOOK MUCH
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GOSPEL, BUT IT TOOK MUCHTIME BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO
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TIME BEFORE I WAS ABLE TODO THAT.
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DO THAT.I HAD TO GET PLANTED IN A
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GET DISCIPLED, AND THEN,
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GET DISCIPLED, AND THEN,FROM THAT POINT IS WHERE
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FROM THAT POINT IS WHEREMY LAUNCHIN' PAD WAS IN A
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MY LAUNCHIN' PAD WAS IN AOKLAHOMA COUNTY JAIL, BUT,
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OKLAHOMA COUNTY JAIL, BUT,YEAH, AND THEN GOD BLESSED
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YEAH, AND THEN GOD BLESSEDME WITH A BEAUTIFUL BRIDE,
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ME WITH A BEAUTIFUL BRIDE,WHO I LOVE SO MUCH, AND,
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WHO I LOVE SO MUCH, AND,WOO, SHE IS MY HELPER
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WOO, SHE IS MY HELPEROUTSIDE THE HOLY SPIRIT,
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OUTSIDE THE HOLY SPIRIT,AND I GOT THESE BEAUTIFUL,
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AND I GOT THESE BEAUTIFUL,YOUNG BOYS THAT ARE
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YOUNG BOYS THAT AREPOPPIN' OUT LIKE HOTCAKES
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POPPIN' OUT LIKE HOTCAKESSINCE I GOT MARRIED,
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SINCE I GOT MARRIED,AND JUST BEEN A
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AND JUST BEEN APHENOMENAL, PHENOMENAL
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PHENOMENAL, PHENOMENALJOURNEY BY THE GRACE OF
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JOURNEY BY THE GRACE OFGOD, BRO.
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GOD, BRO.[LAUGHTER]
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[LAUGHTER]- ERIC: THAT'S SO GREAT.
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- ERIC: THAT'S SO GREAT.WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT
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WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUTRASHAWN COPELAND,
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RASHAWN COPELAND,WONDERFUL TO HEAR YOUR
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WONDERFUL TO HEAR YOURSTORY, TO GET TO KNOW YOU
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STORY, TO GET TO KNOW YOUA LITTLE BIT.
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A LITTLE BIT.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THISBOOK IS CALLED
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BOOK IS CALLED"START WHERE YOU ARE:
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"START WHERE YOU ARE:HOW GOD MEETS YOU IN YOUR MESS,
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HOW GOD MEETS YOU IN YOUR MESS,LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,
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LOVES YOU THROUGH IT,AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."
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AND LEADS YOU OUT OF IT."RASHAWN, CONGRATULATIONS
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RASHAWN, CONGRATULATIONSON THIS BOOK, AND GOD
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ON THIS BOOK, AND GODBLESS YOU, MY BROTHER.
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BLESS YOU, MY BROTHER.TO BE CONTINUED.
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TO BE CONTINUED.- RASHAWN: GOD BLESS YOU,
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- RASHAWN: GOD BLESS YOU,ERIC.
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ERIC.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
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[POPPING SOUND]
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[POPPING SOUND]♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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