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December 11, 2020
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THISPROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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  • PROGRAM IS SPONSORED INPART BY CARSHIELD,
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  • PART BY CARSHIELD,GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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  • GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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  • OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][SMOOCH]
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  • [SMOOCH][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][DOOR SLAMMING]
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  • [DOOR SLAMMING][BING]
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  • [BING][REVVING, SCREECHING]
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  • [REVVING, SCREECHING][PLOP]
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  • [PLOP][WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][BOINK]
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  • [BOINK][ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING][BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][CRASH]
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  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE FOLKS.
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  • - ERIC: HEY, THERE FOLKS.WELCOME TO
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  • WELCOME TO"THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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  • "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."THEY DIDN'T NAME THE
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  • THEY DIDN'T NAME THESHOW AFTER ME.
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  • SHOW AFTER ME.I WAS ACTUALLY NAMED AFTER
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  • I WAS ACTUALLY NAMED AFTERTHE SHOW.
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  • THE SHOW.WE REALIZED THAT
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  • WE REALIZED THAT"THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW"
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  • SO I CHANGED MY NAME TO
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  • SO I CHANGED MY NAME TOERIC METAXAS.
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  • ERIC METAXAS.I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO
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  • I DON'T NEED TO GO INTOTHAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
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  • THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSEI'VE GOT A VERY EXCITING
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  • I'VE GOT A VERY EXCITINGGUEST.
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  • GUEST.THIS GUEST IS THE POINT OF
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  • THIS GUEST IS THE POINT OFTHE SHOW.
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  • THE SHOW.THE SHOW IS NOT ABOUT ME.
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  • THE SHOW IS NOT ABOUT ME.IT'S ABOUT MY GUESTS.
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  • IT'S ABOUT MY GUESTS.MY GUEST RIGHT NOW, YOU
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  • MY GUEST RIGHT NOW, YOUPROBABLY KNOW HIM.
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  • PROBABLY KNOW HIM.HIS NAME IS JOHN COOPER.
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  • HIS NAME IS JOHN COOPER.HE IS A PART OF A BAND
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  • HE IS A PART OF A BANDCALLED SKILLET.
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  • CALLED SKILLET.HAVE YA HEARD OF IT?
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  • HAVE YA HEARD OF IT?JOHN COOPER, WELCOME TO
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  • JOHN COOPER, WELCOME TOTHE PROGRAM.
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  • - JOHN COOPER: THANK YOU.
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  • IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU
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  • IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOUAGAIN, BROTHER.
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  • AGAIN, BROTHER.- ERIC: I'M ALREADY
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  • FORGETTING YOUR WIFE'S NAME.
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  • SHE'S DEFINITELY THE
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  • LOVELIER OF THE TWO OF YOU--
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  • NO OFFENSE.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • - JOHN: YES, SHE IS.
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  • HER NAME IS KOREY.
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  • WELL, SHE WAS THE ONE I
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  • WELL, SHE WAS THE ONE IWAS MAKIN' FUN OF HER
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  • WAS MAKIN' FUN OF HERTATTOOS AND STUFF,
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  • TATTOOS AND STUFF,AND I KNOW THAT YOU GREW
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  • AND I KNOW THAT YOU GREWALL THIS FACIAL HAIR TO
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  • BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU,
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  • BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU,MY FRIEND, THE LAST TIME
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  • MY FRIEND, THE LAST TIMEYOU WERE ON THIS PROGRAM,
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  • YOU WERE ON THIS PROGRAM,WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE
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  • WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLEWATCHING, I JUST THOUGHT
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  • WATCHING, I JUST THOUGHTTO MYSELF, "WOW, I AM JUST
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  • TO MYSELF, "WOW, I AM JUSTSO THRILLED THAT YOU GUYS
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  • SO THRILLED THAT YOU GUYSHAVE THAT KIND OF AN
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  • FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW YOU--
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  • AND I KNOW THERE ARE
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  • AND I KNOW THERE ARESOME PEOPLE TUNING IN
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  • YOU AND KOREY, YOU'RE THE
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  • YOU AND KOREY, YOU'RE THEBAND SKILLET, AND YOU GUYS
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  • BAND SKILLET, AND YOU GUYSARE HUGE-- 12 MILLION ALBUMS.
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  • ARE HUGE-- 12 MILLION ALBUMS.THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU
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  • THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOURECORDED 12 MILLION
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  • RECORDED 12 MILLIONALBUMS.
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  • ALBUMS.YOU JUST RECORDED A FEW
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  • YOU JUST RECORDED A FEWALBUMS, BUT THEY SOLD 12
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  • ALBUMS, BUT THEY SOLD 12MILLION COPIES.
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  • MILLION COPIES.YOU'VE GOT GRAMMY
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  • YOU'VE GOT GRAMMYNOMINATIONS.
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  • YOU'RE ONE OF THE BIGGEST
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  • YOU'RE ONE OF THE BIGGESTROCK BANDS IN THE WORLD,
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  • ROCK BANDS IN THE WORLD,AND YOU ARE A JESUS FREAK
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  • AND YOU ARE A JESUS FREAKAS I UNDERSTAND IT.
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  • AS I UNDERSTAND IT.I'M ALSO A JESUS FREAK,
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  • I'M ALSO A JESUS FREAK,MINUS THE BEARD.
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  • MINUS THE BEARD.I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE A
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  • I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE ABEARD.
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  • BEARD.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]BUT I WANNA TALK TO YOU
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  • BUT I WANNA TALK TO YOUBECAUSE YOU HAVE A BOOK
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  • BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BOOKOUT.
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  • OUT.YOU'VE GOT A BRAND-NEW
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  • YOU'VE GOT A BRAND-NEWBOOK OUT.
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  • BOOK OUT.ROCK DUDES DON'T NORMALLY
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  • ESPECIALLY BOOKS ABOUT THE
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  • ESPECIALLY BOOKS ABOUT THEJESUS-FREAK SIDE OF THEIR
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  • JESUS-FREAK SIDE OF THEIRPERSONALITY.
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  • PERSONALITY.SO TELL US, MY FRIEND, MY
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  • SO TELL US, MY FRIEND, MYBROTHER, WHAT IS THE NAME
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  • BROTHER, WHAT IS THE NAMEOF THIS BOOK THAT YOU JUST
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  • OF THIS BOOK THAT YOU JUSTLAUNCHED?
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  • LAUNCHED?- JOHN: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH,
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  • - JOHN: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH,THE BOOK IS CALLED
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  • AND I WROTE IT IN
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  • AND I WROTE IT INLITERALLY, LIKE,
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  • LITERALLY, LIKE,13 COUNTRIES 'CAUSE WE WERE
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  • 13 COUNTRIES 'CAUSE WE WERETOURING,
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  • TOURING,BUT I STARTED NOTICING THE
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  • BUT I STARTED NOTICING THESAME THING.
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  • SAME THING.EVERYWHERE I WENT,
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  • EVERYWHERE I WENT,NOT JUST AMERICA--
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  • I NOTICED THE SAME THING
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  • I NOTICED THE SAME THINGTHAT SOCIETY NO LONGER
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  • THAT SOCIETY NO LONGERBELIEVES IN TRUTH.
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  • BELIEVES IN TRUTH.WE ARE A FULL-ON
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  • WE ARE A FULL-ONPOST-TRUTH SOCIETY, AND IT
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  • POST-TRUTH SOCIETY, AND ITTOOK ME A WHILE TO
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  • I JUST NOTICED, LIKE,
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  • I JUST NOTICED, LIKE,EVERYTHING'S CHANGING.
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  • EVERYTHING'S CHANGING.WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CONFUSED?
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  • WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CONFUSED?AND IT'S EVEN HAPPENING IN
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  • AND IT'S EVEN HAPPENING INTHE CHURCH, RELATIVISM
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  • THE CHURCH, RELATIVISMCOMING INTO THE CHURCH.
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  • "MAYBE I COULD WRITE A
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  • "MAYBE I COULD WRITE ABOOK ABOUT MY TESTIMONY
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  • BOOK ABOUT MY TESTIMONYBUT ALSO GIVE A LITTLE BIT
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  • BUT ALSO GIVE A LITTLE BITOF THE PHILOSOPHY OF
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  • OF THE PHILOSOPHY OFWHAT'S GOING ON AND
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  • WHAT'S GOING ON ANDEXPLAIN THAT THERE'S TWO
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  • EXPLAIN THAT THERE'S TWOWAYS TO FIND TRUTH:
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  • WAYS TO FIND TRUTH:ONE LEADS TO LIFE;
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  • AND CHOOSE CHRIST.
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  • AND CHOOSE CHRIST.HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO
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  • HE IS THE ONLY WAY TOLIFE.
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  • LIFE.AND I WANTED TO WRITE A
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  • AND I WANTED TO WRITE ABOOK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
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  • BOOK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.SO I'M EXCITED THAT IT'S
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  • SO I'M EXCITED THAT IT'SFINALLY OUT.
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  • FINALLY OUT.- ERIC: WELL, I'M VERY
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  • AND I WANNA SAY IT'S ABOUT
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  • AND I WANNA SAY IT'S ABOUTTIME YOU DISTANCED
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  • TIME YOU DISTANCEDYOURSELF FROM KOREY AND
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  • YOURSELF FROM KOREY ANDWENT OUT ON YOUR OWN.
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  • WENT OUT ON YOUR OWN.I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT AN
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  • I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT ANAMAZING CAREER AHEAD OF
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  • AMAZING CAREER AHEAD OFYOU, OKAY?
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  • YOU, OKAY?[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]SERIOUSLY THOUGH, THIS IS
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  • SERIOUSLY THOUGH, THIS ISEXCITING WHEN A PERSON WHO
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  • EXCITING WHEN A PERSON WHOHAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE A
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  • HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE AROCK STAR FOR A LONG TIME
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  • "I WANNA WRITE A BOOK."
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  • "I WANNA WRITE A BOOK."THE TITLE OF THE BOOK FOR
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  • THE TITLE OF THE BOOK FORFOLKS THAT WANNA KNOW IN
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  • FOLKS THAT WANNA KNOW INCASE THEY WEREN'T LISTENING,
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  • CASE THEY WEREN'T LISTENING,IT'S
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  • IT'S"AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH:
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  • "AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH:FINDING TRUTH IN A
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  • NOW, JOHN, SERIOUSLY, THIS
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  • NOW, JOHN, SERIOUSLY, THISIS THE ISSUE OF OUR TIME.
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  • IS THE ISSUE OF OUR TIME.THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
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  • THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.I TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME,
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  • I TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME,BUT I AM PARTICULARLY THRILLED
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  • BUT I AM PARTICULARLY THRILLEDYOU WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
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  • YOU WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
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  • I KNOW THAT YOU'RESPEAKING TO US FROM
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  • SPEAKING TO US FROMKENOSHA, WISCONSIN,
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  • KENOSHA, WISCONSIN,THE SCENE OF OUTRAGEOUS
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  • THE SCENE OF OUTRAGEOUSVIOLENCE, WHICH I WOULD
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  • VIOLENCE, WHICH I WOULDARGUE IS FRUIT OF
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  • ARGUE IS FRUIT OFRELATIVISM.
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  • RELATIVISM.WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO
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  • WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTOTHAT, BUT THE POINT IS
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  • THAT, BUT THE POINT ISTHAT EVERYBODY WONDERS,
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  • THAT EVERYBODY WONDERS,"WHAT'S GOIN' ON IN LIFE?
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  • "WHAT'S GOIN' ON IN LIFE?WHY IS EVERYTHING GOING
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  • WHY IS EVERYTHING GOINGHAYWIRE?"
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  • HAYWIRE?"IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT
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  • IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACTTHAT WE'VE TAKEN OUR EYES
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  • MANY PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE
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  • MANY PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVETHERE'S SUCH A THING AS
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  • THERE'S SUCH A THING ASTRUTH, AND IT LEADS TO ALL
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  • TRUTH, AND IT LEADS TO ALLKINDS OF BAD STUFF.
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  • KINDS OF BAD STUFF.WHEN YOU SAY YOUR
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  • WHEN YOU SAY YOURTESTIMONY, I KNOW THAT
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  • TESTIMONY, I KNOW THATTHAT'S PART OF THIS BOOK.
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  • THAT'S PART OF THIS BOOK.YOU TELL YOUR STORY.
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  • YOU TELL YOUR STORY.TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
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  • TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUTTHAT SO FOLKS CAN GET TO
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  • THAT SO FOLKS CAN GET TOKNOW HOW YOU GOT TO BE
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  • KNOW HOW YOU GOT TO BEWHERE YOU ARE
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  • WHERE YOU ARETHEOLOGICALLY AND SO ON.
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  • THEOLOGICALLY AND SO ON.- JOHN: MY MOM WAS A
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  • - JOHN: MY MOM WAS AJESUS FREAK, SO I WAS
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  • JESUS FREAK, SO I WASRAISED IN A CHRISTIAN
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  • RAISED IN A CHRISTIANFAMILY.
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  • FAMILY.MY MOM TAUGHT ME ABOUT THE
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  • MY MOM TAUGHT ME ABOUT THEBIBLE EVER SINCE I WAS A
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  • BIBLE EVER SINCE I WAS AKID, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR 20
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  • KID, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR 20YEARS ON THE ROAD, PEOPLE
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  • YEARS ON THE ROAD, PEOPLEALWAYS ASK,
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  • ALWAYS ASK,"WHAT'S THE BEST ADVICE
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  • "WHAT'S THE BEST ADVICEYOU'VE EVER BEEN GIVEN?"
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  • YOU'VE EVER BEEN GIVEN?"AND I SAY,
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  • AND I SAY,"THE BEST ADVICE I'VE
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  • "THE BEST ADVICE I'VEEVER BEEN GIVEN IS
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  • EVER BEEN GIVEN IS'SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM
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  • 'SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOMOF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS,
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  • OF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS,AND EVERYTHING ELSE
  • 00:05:12.924 --> 00:05:14.393
  • IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF
  • 00:05:15.660 --> 00:05:17.496
  • IT IS THE FOUNDATION OFLIFE.
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  • LIFE.IF YOU BUILD YOUR LIFE ON
  • 00:05:18.130 --> 00:05:19.865
  • IF YOU BUILD YOUR LIFE ONTOP OF THE WORDS OF
  • 00:05:19.865 --> 00:05:20.332
  • AND, OF COURSE, THE
  • 00:05:21.733 --> 00:05:23.101
  • AND, OF COURSE, THESCRIPTURES, THEN YOU WILL
  • 00:05:23.101 --> 00:05:24.236
  • SCRIPTURES, THEN YOU WILLBE UNSHAKABLE BECAUSE YOU
  • 00:05:24.236 --> 00:05:24.703
  • BE UNSHAKABLE BECAUSE YOUARE IN LINE WITH THE
  • 00:05:24.703 --> 00:05:31.209
  • ARE IN LINE WITH THECREATOR.
  • 00:05:31.209 --> 00:05:31.676
  • CREATOR.BUT IF YOU DON'T BUILD
  • 00:05:31.676 --> 00:05:32.210
  • BUT IF YOU DON'T BUILDYOUR LIFE ON THAT
  • 00:05:32.210 --> 00:05:32.944
  • YOUR LIFE ON THATFOUNDATION, THEN
  • 00:05:32.944 --> 00:05:33.445
  • FOUNDATION, THENEVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING
  • 00:05:33.445 --> 00:05:34.346
  • EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOINGTO FALL, AND I THINK WE'RE
  • 00:05:34.346 --> 00:05:35.046
  • TO FALL, AND I THINK WE'REEVEN SEEING THAT IN
  • 00:05:35.046 --> 00:05:35.881
  • EVEN SEEING THAT INAMERICA.
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  • AMERICA.WE'RE EVEN SEEING IT IN
  • 00:05:36.415 --> 00:05:37.015
  • WE'RE EVEN SEEING IT INTHE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN
  • 00:05:37.015 --> 00:05:38.250
  • THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH INAMERICA AT LARGE.
  • 00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:39.317
  • AMERICA AT LARGE.THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH NO
  • 00:05:39.317 --> 00:05:40.786
  • THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH NOLONGER BELIEVES IN THE
  • 00:05:40.786 --> 00:05:42.220
  • LONGER BELIEVES IN THEABSOLUTE TRUTH OF THE WORD.
  • 00:05:42.220 --> 00:05:43.555
  • ABSOLUTE TRUTH OF THE WORD.WE'VE REPLACED IT WITH
  • 00:05:43.555 --> 00:05:44.289
  • WE'VE REPLACED IT WITHEMOTIONALISM.
  • 00:05:44.289 --> 00:05:45.657
  • EMOTIONALISM.WE'VE REPLACED IT WITH THE
  • 00:05:45.657 --> 00:05:46.892
  • WE'VE REPLACED IT WITH THEWAY WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT
  • 00:05:46.892 --> 00:05:48.059
  • AND WE'VE REPLACED IT WITH
  • 00:05:49.561 --> 00:05:50.996
  • AND WE'VE REPLACED IT WITHPUTTING OURSELVES ON THE
  • 00:05:50.996 --> 00:05:51.530
  • PUTTING OURSELVES ON THETHRONE.
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  • THRONE.SO THIS BOOK TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:05:53.098 --> 00:05:54.466
  • SO THIS BOOK TALKS ABOUTSOME OF THE PHILOSOPHIES
  • 00:05:54.466 --> 00:05:55.700
  • A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:05:56.835 --> 00:05:57.736
  • A LITTLE BIT ABOUTCRITICAL RACE THEORY,
  • 00:05:57.736 --> 00:05:58.370
  • CRITICAL RACE THEORY,A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
  • 00:05:58.370 --> 00:05:59.571
  • A LITTLE BIT ABOUTPOSTMODERNISM, IDENTITY
  • 00:05:59.571 --> 00:06:00.405
  • POSTMODERNISM, IDENTITYPOLITICS, HOW THAT'S COME
  • 00:06:00.405 --> 00:06:01.873
  • POLITICS, HOW THAT'S COMEIN, BUT IT LEADS TO THAT
  • 00:06:01.873 --> 00:06:03.141
  • IN, BUT IT LEADS TO THATSO YOU CAN BREAK THOSE
  • 00:06:03.141 --> 00:06:05.877
  • SO YOU CAN BREAK THOSETHINGS DOWN AND THEN GET
  • 00:06:05.877 --> 00:06:07.579
  • THINGS DOWN AND THEN GETTO AUTHORITY OF THE
  • 00:06:07.579 --> 00:06:08.847
  • TO AUTHORITY OF THESCRIPTURE BECAUSE WITHOUT
  • 00:06:08.847 --> 00:06:09.414
  • SCRIPTURE BECAUSE WITHOUTAUTHORITY OF THE
  • 00:06:09.414 --> 00:06:10.282
  • AUTHORITY OF THESCRIPTURE, WE DON'T HAVE
  • 00:06:10.282 --> 00:06:11.383
  • SCRIPTURE, WE DON'T HAVEANYTHING TO BUILD OUR
  • 00:06:11.383 --> 00:06:12.751
  • ANYTHING TO BUILD OURLIVES ON, AND THE REASON
  • 00:06:12.751 --> 00:06:13.919
  • LIVES ON, AND THE REASONI'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT
  • 00:06:13.919 --> 00:06:15.520
  • I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT ITIS, IN MY LINE OF WORK, I
  • 00:06:15.520 --> 00:06:16.788
  • IS, IN MY LINE OF WORK, IRAN INTO SO MANY
  • 00:06:16.788 --> 00:06:18.824
  • RAN INTO SO MANYPROFESSING CHRISTIANS WHO
  • 00:06:18.824 --> 00:06:21.426
  • PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WHOSAID, "JOHN, I'M TOTALLY
  • 00:06:21.426 --> 00:06:22.160
  • I'M JUST NOT INTO THE BIBLE."
  • 00:06:23.962 --> 00:06:24.863
  • I'M JUST NOT INTO THE BIBLE."AND I KEPT THINKING,
  • 00:06:24.863 --> 00:06:26.498
  • AND I KEPT THINKING,"THAT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE.
  • 00:06:26.498 --> 00:06:27.065
  • "THAT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE.THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE ANY
  • 00:06:27.065 --> 00:06:28.033
  • THAT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE ANYSENSE."
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  • SENSE."JESUS IS YOUR WORD.
  • 00:06:29.868 --> 00:06:32.037
  • JESUS IS YOUR WORD.SO I HOPE TO-- I CALL THIS
  • 00:06:32.037 --> 00:06:33.872
  • SO I HOPE TO-- I CALL THISBOOK "THEOLOGY FOR DUMMIES."
  • 00:06:33.872 --> 00:06:35.707
  • BOOK "THEOLOGY FOR DUMMIES."MAYBE YOU CAN'T SIT THROUGH
  • 00:06:35.707 --> 00:06:36.575
  • MAYBE YOU CAN'T SIT THROUGHA JOHN CALVIN BOOK,
  • 00:06:36.575 --> 00:06:38.009
  • A JOHN CALVIN BOOK,BUT YOU CAN SIT THROUGH
  • 00:06:38.009 --> 00:06:38.610
  • BUT YOU CAN SIT THROUGHMY BOOK, AND I HOPE THAT
  • 00:06:38.610 --> 00:06:39.644
  • MY BOOK, AND I HOPE THATIT CAN HELP PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:06:39.644 --> 00:06:41.112
  • IT CAN HELP PEOPLE WHOARE OUTSIDE THE FAITH,
  • 00:06:41.112 --> 00:06:41.646
  • ARE OUTSIDE THE FAITH,MAYBE NOT EVEN FAMILIAR
  • 00:06:41.646 --> 00:06:43.648
  • MAYBE NOT EVEN FAMILIARWITH CHRISTIANITY,
  • 00:06:43.648 --> 00:06:44.416
  • WITH CHRISTIANITY,UNDERSTAND AUTHORITY OF
  • 00:06:44.416 --> 00:06:45.650
  • UNDERSTAND AUTHORITY OFSCRIPTURE AND THE
  • 00:06:45.650 --> 00:06:46.885
  • SCRIPTURE AND THEPERSON OF JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:06:46.885 --> 00:06:48.720
  • PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST,WHO IS FULLY MAN,
  • 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.422
  • WHO IS FULLY MAN,BUT ALSO INCARNATE GOD.
  • 00:06:50.422 --> 00:06:52.457
  • BUT ALSO INCARNATE GOD.- ERIC: YOU KNOW, I
  • 00:06:52.457 --> 00:06:53.792
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW, IALREADY KNEW THAT YOU WERE
  • 00:06:53.792 --> 00:06:55.026
  • ALREADY KNEW THAT YOU WEREREALLY, REALLY SMART, BUT
  • 00:06:55.026 --> 00:06:56.061
  • REALLY, REALLY SMART, BUTPEOPLE ARE JUST TUNING IN.
  • 00:06:56.061 --> 00:06:56.661
  • PEOPLE ARE JUST TUNING IN.THEY SEE THE BEARD, THE
  • 00:06:56.661 --> 00:06:57.896
  • THEY SEE THE BEARD, THEFLANNEL SHIRT.
  • 00:06:57.896 --> 00:06:58.930
  • FLANNEL SHIRT.YOU'VE KIND OF GOT A
  • 00:06:58.930 --> 00:07:00.065
  • YOU'VE KIND OF GOT ACOSTUME TO THROW PEOPLE
  • 00:07:00.065 --> 00:07:01.233
  • YOU'RE HIDING YOUR GENIUS
  • 00:07:04.402 --> 00:07:05.470
  • YOU'RE HIDING YOUR GENIUSAND YOUR INTELLIGENCE
  • 00:07:05.470 --> 00:07:07.172
  • I DRESSED THIS WAY TO GET
  • 00:07:09.341 --> 00:07:10.709
  • I DRESSED THIS WAY TO GETPEOPLE THINKING, "HE MUST
  • 00:07:10.709 --> 00:07:11.376
  • PEOPLE THINKING, "HE MUSTBE SMART BECAUSE HE'S GOT
  • 00:07:11.376 --> 00:07:11.977
  • BE SMART BECAUSE HE'S GOTON A TIE AND THE
  • 00:07:11.977 --> 00:07:14.112
  • ON A TIE AND THEHORN-RIMMED GLASSES AND STUFF."
  • 00:07:14.112 --> 00:07:15.080
  • HORN-RIMMED GLASSES AND STUFF."IT'S ALL A GAME, MAN.
  • 00:07:15.080 --> 00:07:15.614
  • IT'S ALL A GAME, MAN.BUT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:07:15.614 --> 00:07:16.181
  • BUT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUTTHE SAME STUFF HERE.
  • 00:07:16.181 --> 00:07:16.948
  • THE SAME STUFF HERE.- JOHN: YEAH.
  • 00:07:16.948 --> 00:07:17.949
  • - JOHN: YEAH.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:07:17.949 --> 00:07:18.517
  • [LAUGHTER]- ERIC: AND YOU KNOW WHAT
  • 00:07:18.517 --> 00:07:20.752
  • - ERIC: AND YOU KNOW WHATI FIND FUNNY, JOHN, IS
  • 00:07:20.752 --> 00:07:23.755
  • I FIND FUNNY, JOHN, ISTHAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:07:23.755 --> 00:07:25.257
  • THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOLITERALLY DON'T BELIEVE
  • 00:07:25.257 --> 00:07:26.525
  • LITERALLY DON'T BELIEVETHERE IS SUCH A THING AS
  • 00:07:26.525 --> 00:07:28.960
  • THERE IS SUCH A THING ASTRUTH, RIGHT?
  • 00:07:28.960 --> 00:07:34.165
  • TRUTH, RIGHT?- JOHN: YEAH.
  • 00:07:34.165 --> 00:07:34.733
  • - JOHN: YEAH.- ERIC: NOW, THE FACT IS
  • 00:07:34.733 --> 00:07:35.300
  • - ERIC: NOW, THE FACT ISTHAT, IF YOU TRY TO THINK
  • 00:07:35.300 --> 00:07:35.901
  • THAT, IF YOU TRY TO THINKABOUT THESE THINGS,
  • 00:07:35.901 --> 00:07:36.668
  • ABOUT THESE THINGS,YOU CAN COME TO THE CONCLUSION
  • 00:07:36.668 --> 00:07:37.335
  • YOU CAN COME TO THE CONCLUSIONTHAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
  • 00:07:37.335 --> 00:07:38.136
  • THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSETHAT THERE IS NO TRUTH.
  • 00:07:38.136 --> 00:07:38.670
  • THAT THERE IS NO TRUTH.IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN
  • 00:07:38.670 --> 00:07:39.838
  • IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CANGET THERE, RIGHT?
  • 00:07:39.838 --> 00:07:40.372
  • GET THERE, RIGHT?YOU DON'T NEED A
  • 00:07:40.372 --> 00:07:41.473
  • NOW, ON SOME LEVEL, TO GET
  • 00:07:43.875 --> 00:07:44.376
  • NOW, ON SOME LEVEL, TO GETTO ANY TRUTH, YOU NEED A
  • 00:07:44.376 --> 00:07:45.343
  • TO ANY TRUTH, YOU NEED AREVELATION, SO I DON'T
  • 00:07:45.343 --> 00:07:46.344
  • REVELATION, SO I DON'TWANNA GET INTO THE
  • 00:07:46.344 --> 00:07:46.912
  • WANNA GET INTO THETHEOLOGY OF THAT, BUT THE
  • 00:07:46.912 --> 00:07:48.346
  • THEOLOGY OF THAT, BUT THEPOINT IS THAT I WANNA
  • 00:07:48.346 --> 00:07:50.282
  • POINT IS THAT I WANNACHALLENGE PEOPLE, AND I
  • 00:07:50.282 --> 00:07:51.716
  • CHALLENGE PEOPLE, AND ITRY TO DO THIS ON MY
  • 00:07:51.716 --> 00:07:52.551
  • TRY TO DO THIS ON MYPROGRAM, AND YOU'RE DOING
  • 00:07:52.551 --> 00:07:53.118
  • PROGRAM, AND YOU'RE DOINGTHIS IN YOUR BOOK AND WITH
  • 00:07:53.118 --> 00:07:56.488
  • CAN YOU LIVE IN A WORLD
  • 00:07:58.857 --> 00:07:59.658
  • CAN YOU LIVE IN A WORLDWHERE THERE IS NO SUCH
  • 00:07:59.658 --> 00:08:00.225
  • WHERE THERE IS NO SUCHTHING AS TRUTH?
  • 00:08:00.225 --> 00:08:00.692
  • THING AS TRUTH?I DON'T THINK YOU CAN.
  • 00:08:00.692 --> 00:08:01.760
  • I DON'T THINK YOU CAN.I DON'T THINK YOU'RE--
  • 00:08:01.760 --> 00:08:03.094
  • I DON'T THINK YOU'RE--I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE
  • 00:08:03.094 --> 00:08:04.496
  • I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THEGUTS TO THINK ABOUT IT.
  • 00:08:04.496 --> 00:08:05.063
  • GUTS TO THINK ABOUT IT.LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE--
  • 00:08:05.063 --> 00:08:06.131
  • LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE--LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE
  • 00:08:06.131 --> 00:08:06.598
  • LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLENUDGE TO DARE TO THINK
  • 00:08:06.598 --> 00:08:07.232
  • NUDGE TO DARE TO THINKABOUT THIS ISSUE.
  • 00:08:07.232 --> 00:08:08.333
  • ABOUT THIS ISSUE.IS THERE SUCH A THING AS
  • 00:08:08.333 --> 00:08:08.900
  • IS THERE SUCH A THING ASTRUTH?
  • 00:08:08.900 --> 00:08:09.734
  • TRUTH?AND IF THERE IS, WHAT CAN
  • 00:08:09.734 --> 00:08:11.503
  • AND IF THERE IS, WHAT CANWE KNOW?
  • 00:08:11.503 --> 00:08:12.137
  • WE KNOW?IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE
  • 00:08:12.137 --> 00:08:14.039
  • IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEREIS A GOD THAT LOVES US,
  • 00:08:14.039 --> 00:08:15.907
  • IS A GOD THAT LOVES US,THAT DIED FOR US?
  • 00:08:15.907 --> 00:08:18.877
  • THAT DIED FOR US?I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT.
  • 00:08:18.877 --> 00:08:19.744
  • I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT.IN FACT, I'LL SAY, "I KNOW IT."
  • 00:08:19.744 --> 00:08:20.545
  • IN FACT, I'LL SAY, "I KNOW IT."I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT,
  • 00:08:20.545 --> 00:08:22.180
  • I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW IT,AND I THINK IT'S
  • 00:08:22.180 --> 00:08:22.714
  • AND I THINK IT'SIMPORTANT FOR US TO
  • 00:08:22.714 --> 00:08:24.149
  • IMPORTANT FOR US TOCHALLENGE PEOPLE AND TO SAY,
  • 00:08:24.149 --> 00:08:24.983
  • CHALLENGE PEOPLE AND TO SAY,"I DON'T THINK YOUR
  • 00:08:24.983 --> 00:08:26.351
  • "I DON'T THINK YOURWORLDVIEW IS CONSISTENT,
  • 00:08:26.351 --> 00:08:28.653
  • WORLDVIEW IS CONSISTENT,AND I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU
  • 00:08:28.653 --> 00:08:29.287
  • AND I DON'T EVEN THINK YOUKNOW WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
  • 00:08:29.287 --> 00:08:31.256
  • - JOHN: HMM, YOU
  • 00:08:32.490 --> 00:08:33.158
  • - JOHN: HMM, YOUKNOW, I THINK THAT'S A
  • 00:08:33.158 --> 00:08:34.593
  • KNOW, I THINK THAT'S AGREAT WAY TO SAY IT, AND I
  • 00:08:34.593 --> 00:08:35.093
  • GREAT WAY TO SAY IT, AND IDID TALK A LITTLE BIT
  • 00:08:35.093 --> 00:08:36.428
  • DID TALK A LITTLE BITABOUT THAT IN THE BOOK TOO.
  • 00:08:36.428 --> 00:08:37.329
  • ABOUT THAT IN THE BOOK TOO.NO ONE ACTUALLY BELIEVES
  • 00:08:37.329 --> 00:08:39.331
  • NO ONE ACTUALLY BELIEVESPOSTMODERNISM.
  • 00:08:39.331 --> 00:08:41.132
  • POSTMODERNISM.I MEAN, IN ACADEMIA, IT
  • 00:08:41.132 --> 00:08:42.200
  • I MEAN, IN ACADEMIA, ITSOUNDS COOL TO SAY YOU
  • 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:42.767
  • SOUNDS COOL TO SAY YOUBELIEVE IT, BUT WHEN YOUR
  • 00:08:42.767 --> 00:08:44.135
  • BELIEVE IT, BUT WHEN YOURWIFE CHEATS ON YA AND
  • 00:08:44.135 --> 00:08:45.837
  • IT'S NOT EVEN REAL ANYWAY."
  • 00:08:47.205 --> 00:08:48.340
  • IT'S NOT EVEN REAL ANYWAY."NOBODY WANTS TO ACTUALLY
  • 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:50.375
  • NOBODY WANTS TO ACTUALLYLIVE OUT-- IT'S A HORRIBLE
  • 00:08:50.375 --> 00:08:50.842
  • LIVE OUT-- IT'S A HORRIBLENIGHTMARE, AND TO FIND
  • 00:08:50.842 --> 00:08:53.578
  • NIGHTMARE, AND TO FINDTHE SAME PEOPLE
  • 00:08:53.578 --> 00:08:56.014
  • THE SAME PEOPLECONSTANTLY VIRTUE
  • 00:08:56.014 --> 00:08:56.715
  • CONSTANTLY VIRTUESIGNALING ABOUT ALL THE
  • 00:08:56.715 --> 00:08:58.516
  • WHILST NOT BELIEVING IN
  • 00:09:00.318 --> 00:09:00.819
  • WHILST NOT BELIEVING INTRUTH, MAKES NO SENSE.
  • 00:09:00.819 --> 00:09:01.786
  • TRUTH, MAKES NO SENSE.WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR
  • 00:09:01.786 --> 00:09:02.821
  • WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOURTIME, YOU KNOW?
  • 00:09:02.821 --> 00:09:04.022
  • TIME, YOU KNOW?SO I DO REALIZE,
  • 00:09:04.022 --> 00:09:04.956
  • YOU KNOW, REVELATION IS
  • 00:09:07.258 --> 00:09:08.560
  • YOU KNOW, REVELATION ISONE OF THOSE THINGS GOD
  • 00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:10.261
  • ONE OF THOSE THINGS GODHAS TO GIVE PEOPLE, BUT
  • 00:09:10.261 --> 00:09:11.496
  • HAS TO GIVE PEOPLE, BUTJUST SAYING, "HEY, YOU
  • 00:09:11.496 --> 00:09:13.632
  • JUST SAYING, "HEY, YOUCANNOT LIVE IN THAT
  • 00:09:13.632 --> 00:09:15.133
  • CANNOT LIVE IN THATWORLDVIEW AND PREACH
  • 00:09:15.133 --> 00:09:17.736
  • WORLDVIEW AND PREACHVIRTUE AND EXPECT PEOPLE
  • 00:09:17.736 --> 00:09:19.371
  • VIRTUE AND EXPECT PEOPLETO TREAT YOU THE WAY YOU
  • 00:09:19.371 --> 00:09:20.338
  • TO TREAT YOU THE WAY YOUWANT TO BE TREATED BECAUSE
  • 00:09:20.338 --> 00:09:21.673
  • AND I WOULD JUST SAY,
  • 00:09:22.974 --> 00:09:24.242
  • AND I WOULD JUST SAY,"HOW'S IT WORKIN' OUT?"
  • 00:09:24.242 --> 00:09:25.777
  • "HOW'S IT WORKIN' OUT?"LOOK AT THE TV, LOOK AT
  • 00:09:25.777 --> 00:09:27.112
  • LOOK AT THE TV, LOOK ATSOCIAL MEDIA, LOOK AT
  • 00:09:27.112 --> 00:09:28.580
  • SOCIAL MEDIA, LOOK ATDOWNTOWN KENOSHA, LOOK AT
  • 00:09:28.580 --> 00:09:30.348
  • DOWNTOWN KENOSHA, LOOK ATWHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
  • 00:09:30.348 --> 00:09:31.116
  • WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEWORLD AND TELL ME, DOES IT
  • 00:09:31.116 --> 00:09:33.051
  • WORLD AND TELL ME, DOES ITSEEM LIKE THINGS ARE GOING
  • 00:09:33.051 --> 00:09:33.885
  • SEEM LIKE THINGS ARE GOINGWELL IN A WORLD OF
  • 00:09:33.885 --> 00:09:35.987
  • WELL IN A WORLD OFRELATIVISM?
  • 00:09:35.987 --> 00:09:38.256
  • AND JESUS OFFERS PEACE
  • 00:09:40.258 --> 00:09:41.960
  • AND JESUS OFFERS PEACETHAT WILL NEVER FAIL US
  • 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.296
  • THAT WILL NEVER FAIL USBECAUSE THE WORD OF GOD
  • 00:09:45.296 --> 00:09:47.832
  • BECAUSE THE WORD OF GODIS ALWAYS THE SAME.
  • 00:09:47.832 --> 00:09:48.767
  • IS ALWAYS THE SAME.AND DOESN'T THAT SOUND
  • 00:09:48.767 --> 00:09:49.467
  • IN 2020, TO HAVE SOMETHING
  • 00:09:51.403 --> 00:09:53.405
  • IN 2020, TO HAVE SOMETHINGTHAT YOU CAN KNOW IS NEVER
  • 00:09:53.405 --> 00:09:54.639
  • THAT YOU CAN KNOW IS NEVERGOING TO CHANGE, THAT IS
  • 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:55.573
  • GOING TO CHANGE, THAT ISTHE SAME YESTERDAY,
  • 00:09:55.573 --> 00:09:57.042
  • THE SAME YESTERDAY,TODAY AND FOREVER?
  • 00:09:57.042 --> 00:09:57.709
  • TODAY AND FOREVER?THAT'S GREAT, REALLY GREAT
  • 00:09:57.709 --> 00:09:59.477
  • THAT'S GREAT, REALLY GREATNEWS.
  • 00:09:59.477 --> 00:10:00.145
  • NEWS.- ERIC: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:10:00.145 --> 00:10:01.079
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW WHAT?SOME PEOPLE CALL IT THE
  • 00:10:01.079 --> 00:10:02.580
  • SOME PEOPLE CALL IT THEGOOD NEWS, AND IN A WAY,
  • 00:10:02.580 --> 00:10:03.848
  • GOOD NEWS, AND IN A WAY,IT REALLY SHOULD BE CALLED
  • 00:10:03.848 --> 00:10:04.683
  • IT REALLY SHOULD BE CALLEDTHE GREAT NEWS.
  • 00:10:04.683 --> 00:10:05.817
  • THE GREAT NEWS.IT IS SO AMAZING-- AND
  • 00:10:05.817 --> 00:10:06.618
  • IT IS SO AMAZING-- ANDTHIS IS WHAT I LOVE IS
  • 00:10:06.618 --> 00:10:07.485
  • THIS IS WHAT I LOVE ISTHAT, WHEN YOU REALLY
  • 00:10:07.485 --> 00:10:08.987
  • THAT, WHEN YOU REALLYTHINK ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU
  • 00:10:08.987 --> 00:10:10.321
  • THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN YOUREALLY GET INTO IT,
  • 00:10:10.321 --> 00:10:11.956
  • REALLY GET INTO IT,IT'S MIND-BLOWING.
  • 00:10:11.956 --> 00:10:13.158
  • IT'S MIND-BLOWING.IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL AND SO
  • 00:10:13.158 --> 00:10:14.559
  • AND THEN FOLKS LIKE YOU
  • 00:10:16.027 --> 00:10:16.995
  • AND THEN FOLKS LIKE YOUAND ME, WHO'VE HAD THE
  • 00:10:16.995 --> 00:10:18.229
  • AND ME, WHO'VE HAD THEPRIVILEGE OF KNOWING THIS
  • 00:10:18.229 --> 00:10:20.265
  • PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING THISIS TRUE, WHEN YOU START
  • 00:10:20.265 --> 00:10:20.765
  • IS TRUE, WHEN YOU STARTLIVING IT OUT, YOU
  • 00:10:20.765 --> 00:10:22.000
  • LIVING IT OUT, YOUREALIZE,
  • 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:22.434
  • REALIZE,"OH, MY GOODNESS,
  • 00:10:22.434 --> 00:10:23.168
  • "OH, MY GOODNESS,IT IS TRUE.
  • 00:10:23.168 --> 00:10:23.735
  • IT IS TRUE.IT WORKS."
  • 00:10:23.735 --> 00:10:26.204
  • IT WORKS."I'VE SEEN IT OVER AND
  • 00:10:26.204 --> 00:10:27.072
  • I'VE SEEN IT OVER ANDOVER AND OVER.
  • 00:10:27.072 --> 00:10:28.173
  • OVER AND OVER.IT'S REAL.
  • 00:10:28.173 --> 00:10:28.707
  • IT'S REAL.- JOHN: YES.
  • 00:10:28.707 --> 00:10:29.340
  • - JOHN: YES.- ERIC: WHEN WE COME BACK,
  • 00:10:29.340 --> 00:10:29.841
  • - ERIC: WHEN WE COME BACK,I WANNA TALK SOME MORE
  • 00:10:29.841 --> 00:10:30.375
  • I WANNA TALK SOME MOREABOUT YOUR LIFE
  • 00:10:30.375 --> 00:10:31.009
  • ABOUT YOUR LIFEEXPERIENCE AND THIS NEW BOOK,
  • 00:10:31.009 --> 00:10:31.776
  • EXPERIENCE AND THIS NEW BOOK,"AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH."
  • 00:10:31.776 --> 00:10:32.410
  • "AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH."I'M TALKIN' TO
  • 00:10:32.410 --> 00:10:32.911
  • I'M TALKIN' TOJOHN COOPER OF SKILLET.
  • 00:10:32.911 --> 00:10:35.280
  • JOHN COOPER OF SKILLET.DON'T GO AWAY.
  • 00:10:35.280 --> 00:10:36.915
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, WELCOME BACK.
  • 00:10:39.865 --> 00:10:40.633
  • - ERIC: FOLKS, WELCOME BACK.I'M TALKIN' TO JOHN COOPER
  • 00:10:40.633 --> 00:10:41.767
  • I'M TALKIN' TO JOHN COOPEROF SKILLET.
  • 00:10:41.767 --> 00:10:42.534
  • OF SKILLET.IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW,
  • 00:10:42.534 --> 00:10:46.538
  • NOW, JOHN, I GOTTA AS YOU
  • 00:10:47.673 --> 00:10:48.240
  • NOW, JOHN, I GOTTA AS YOUUP FRONT A MOST IMPORTANT
  • 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:49.108
  • UP FRONT A MOST IMPORTANTQUESTION.
  • 00:10:49.108 --> 00:10:49.708
  • QUESTION.WHY DID YOU NAME THE BAND
  • 00:10:49.708 --> 00:10:50.576
  • WHY DID YOU NAME THE BANDSKILLET?
  • 00:10:50.576 --> 00:10:51.910
  • SKILLET?[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:51.910 --> 00:10:53.646
  • [LAUGHTER]- JOHN: WHEN WE GOT
  • 00:10:53.646 --> 00:10:55.581
  • - JOHN: WHEN WE GOTTOGETHER, WE WERE ALL FROM
  • 00:10:55.581 --> 00:10:56.382
  • TOGETHER, WE WERE ALL FROMDIFFERENT BANDS, AND MY
  • 00:10:56.382 --> 00:10:57.483
  • DIFFERENT BANDS, AND MYPASTOR SAID, "HEY, YOU'RE
  • 00:10:57.483 --> 00:10:58.350
  • PASTOR SAID, "HEY, YOU'REALL FROM DIFFERENT BANDS.
  • 00:10:58.350 --> 00:10:59.551
  • ALL FROM DIFFERENT BANDS.IT'S LIKE COOKING, TAKIN'
  • 00:10:59.551 --> 00:11:00.519
  • IT'S LIKE COOKING, TAKIN'ALL THESE INGREDIENTS AND
  • 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.321
  • ALL THESE INGREDIENTS ANDTHROWIN' IT IN A BIG SKILLET."
  • 00:11:02.321 --> 00:11:03.389
  • THROWIN' IT IN A BIG SKILLET."[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:03.389 --> 00:11:03.922
  • [LAUGHTER]AND THAT WAS IT.
  • 00:11:03.922 --> 00:11:04.923
  • AND THAT WAS IT.IT'S PRETTY DUMB.
  • 00:11:04.923 --> 00:11:05.424
  • IT'S PRETTY DUMB.THAT'S IT.
  • 00:11:05.424 --> 00:11:06.191
  • THAT'S IT.- ERIC: ARE YOU KIDDING?
  • 00:11:06.191 --> 00:11:07.559
  • - ERIC: ARE YOU KIDDING?SO FRY PAN WAS TAKEN?
  • 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:08.927
  • SO FRY PAN WAS TAKEN?FRY PAN, GRIDDLE?
  • 00:11:08.927 --> 00:11:10.329
  • FRY PAN, GRIDDLE?GRIDDLE WAS TAKEN?
  • 00:11:10.329 --> 00:11:11.063
  • GRIDDLE WAS TAKEN?- JOHN: YEAH, CROCK-POT,
  • 00:11:11.063 --> 00:11:13.632
  • - JOHN: YEAH, CROCK-POT,WOK, ALL--
  • 00:11:13.632 --> 00:11:14.400
  • WOK, ALL--- ERIC: WOK?
  • 00:11:14.400 --> 00:11:15.534
  • - ERIC: WOK?- JOHN: IT WAS THE '90s.
  • 00:11:15.534 --> 00:11:17.603
  • - ERIC: YOU BLAME IT ON
  • 00:11:19.238 --> 00:11:19.638
  • - ERIC: YOU BLAME IT ONTHE-- I LOVE IT.
  • 00:11:19.638 --> 00:11:20.205
  • THE-- I LOVE IT.BUT THIS BOOK IS-- THIS IS
  • 00:11:20.205 --> 00:11:22.508
  • BUT THIS BOOK IS-- THIS ISSOME HEAVY STUFF.
  • 00:11:22.508 --> 00:11:22.975
  • SOME HEAVY STUFF.IT'S IMPORTANT STUFF,
  • 00:11:22.975 --> 00:11:24.343
  • IT'S IMPORTANT STUFF,"AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH:
  • 00:11:24.343 --> 00:11:25.044
  • "AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH:FINDING TRUTH IN A
  • 00:11:25.044 --> 00:11:25.711
  • FINDING TRUTH IN ARELATIVISTIC WORLD."
  • 00:11:25.711 --> 00:11:28.247
  • YOU SAID THAT CRITICAL RACE
  • 00:11:29.314 --> 00:11:29.815
  • YOU SAID THAT CRITICAL RACETHEORY, AND SO ON AND
  • 00:11:29.815 --> 00:11:30.115
  • THEORY, AND SO ON ANDSO FORTH,
  • 00:11:30.115 --> 00:11:30.582
  • SO FORTH,IS HOW THE GRIEVANCE
  • 00:11:30.582 --> 00:11:31.850
  • IS HOW THE GRIEVANCECULTURE, DIVIDES US UP
  • 00:11:31.850 --> 00:11:33.285
  • CULTURE, DIVIDES US UPINTO GROUPS, AND TYPICALLY
  • 00:11:33.285 --> 00:11:34.219
  • INTO GROUPS, AND TYPICALLYIT'S THE OPPRESSED AND THE
  • 00:11:34.219 --> 00:11:37.423
  • IT'S THE OPPRESSED AND THEOPPRESSORS, RIGHT?
  • 00:11:37.423 --> 00:11:38.657
  • OPPRESSORS, RIGHT?SO WE ARE THE OPPRESSORS,
  • 00:11:38.657 --> 00:11:39.224
  • SO WE ARE THE OPPRESSORS,ACCORDING TO THAT THEORY.
  • 00:11:39.224 --> 00:11:40.059
  • ACCORDING TO THAT THEORY.BUT WHAT I FIND
  • 00:11:40.059 --> 00:11:42.394
  • BUT WHAT I FINDINTERESTING IS THAT THIS
  • 00:11:42.394 --> 00:11:43.362
  • INTERESTING IS THAT THISIS THE DEFINITION OF MARXISM.
  • 00:11:43.362 --> 00:11:44.296
  • IS THE DEFINITION OF MARXISM.IN OTHER WORDS, CULTURAL
  • 00:11:44.296 --> 00:11:45.798
  • IN OTHER WORDS, CULTURALMARXISM IS JUST A
  • 00:11:45.798 --> 00:11:46.532
  • MARXISM IS JUST ADIFFERENT KIND OF MARXISM.
  • 00:11:46.532 --> 00:11:47.599
  • DIFFERENT KIND OF MARXISM.MARXISM USED TO BE LIKE,
  • 00:11:47.599 --> 00:11:49.268
  • MARXISM USED TO BE LIKE,"OH, THE WORKERS ARE
  • 00:11:49.268 --> 00:11:50.335
  • "OH, THE WORKERS AREOPPRESSED, AND THE RICH
  • 00:11:50.335 --> 00:11:52.004
  • OPPRESSED, AND THE RICHPEOPLE ARE THE OPPRESSORS."
  • 00:11:52.004 --> 00:11:53.605
  • PEOPLE ARE THE OPPRESSORS."NOW THEY JUST SWITCHED AROUND
  • 00:11:53.605 --> 00:11:54.073
  • NOW THEY JUST SWITCHED AROUNDTHE GROUPS,
  • 00:11:54.073 --> 00:11:55.207
  • THE GROUPS,SO IF YOU'RE WHITE,
  • 00:11:55.207 --> 00:11:56.075
  • SO IF YOU'RE WHITE,YOU'RE PART OF THE OPPRESSORS.
  • 00:11:56.075 --> 00:11:57.776
  • YOU'RE PART OF THE OPPRESSORS.IF YOU'RE STRAIGHT OR
  • 00:11:57.776 --> 00:11:58.477
  • IF YOU'RE STRAIGHT ORCHRISTIAN, YOU'RE A PART
  • 00:11:58.477 --> 00:11:59.178
  • CHRISTIAN, YOU'RE A PARTOF THE-- BUT IT'S
  • 00:11:59.178 --> 00:12:00.379
  • OF THE-- BUT IT'SBASICALLY WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:12:00.379 --> 00:12:01.780
  • BASICALLY WE'RE TALKIN'ABOUT CULTURAL MARXISM.
  • 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:03.082
  • ABOUT CULTURAL MARXISM.AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT?
  • 00:12:03.082 --> 00:12:06.251
  • AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT?- JOHN: YES, YEAH,
  • 00:12:06.251 --> 00:12:07.653
  • YOU'RE A LOT SMARTER THAN
  • 00:12:08.754 --> 00:12:09.221
  • YOU'RE A LOT SMARTER THANME, BUT FROM WHAT I
  • 00:12:09.221 --> 00:12:09.822
  • ME, BUT FROM WHAT IUNDERSTAND, THAT IS WHAT
  • 00:12:09.822 --> 00:12:10.355
  • UNDERSTAND, THAT IS WHATCULTURAL MARXISM IS,
  • 00:12:10.355 --> 00:12:12.624
  • CULTURAL MARXISM IS,AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:12:12.624 --> 00:12:15.094
  • AND YOU'RE RIGHT.IT DOES DIVIDE US, AND IT
  • 00:12:15.094 --> 00:12:16.929
  • AND IT MAKES CERTAIN
  • 00:12:18.030 --> 00:12:19.131
  • AND IT MAKES CERTAINPEOPLE NOT GUILTY,
  • 00:12:19.131 --> 00:12:20.999
  • PEOPLE NOT GUILTY,AND THAT IS WHY IT'S SO
  • 00:12:20.999 --> 00:12:21.500
  • AND THAT IS WHY IT'S SOIMPORTANT THAT,
  • 00:12:21.500 --> 00:12:22.568
  • WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT THE
  • 00:12:23.736 --> 00:12:25.204
  • WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT THEGOSPEL 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T
  • 00:12:25.204 --> 00:12:26.805
  • GOSPEL 'CAUSE YOU CAN'THAVE A GOSPEL WHEN SOME
  • 00:12:26.805 --> 00:12:28.607
  • HAVE A GOSPEL WHEN SOMEPEOPLE AREN'T ACTUALLY
  • 00:12:28.607 --> 00:12:30.309
  • PEOPLE AREN'T ACTUALLYGUILTY OF STUFF-- OR YOU
  • 00:12:30.309 --> 00:12:31.643
  • GUILTY OF STUFF-- OR YOUCAN'T HAVE A GOSPEL-- AND
  • 00:12:31.643 --> 00:12:33.212
  • CAN'T HAVE A GOSPEL-- ANDWE SEE THIS IN THEOLOGY
  • 00:12:33.212 --> 00:12:34.546
  • WE SEE THIS IN THEOLOGYIN, LIKE, WHAT WE CALL
  • 00:12:34.546 --> 00:12:35.781
  • YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOSPEL
  • 00:12:38.851 --> 00:12:40.552
  • YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOSPELWHERE CHRIST RELATES TO
  • 00:12:40.552 --> 00:12:41.620
  • WHERE CHRIST RELATES TOONLY CERTAIN KINDS OF
  • 00:12:41.620 --> 00:12:42.888
  • ONLY CERTAIN KINDS OFPEOPLE, AND THAT IS WHAT
  • 00:12:42.888 --> 00:12:44.823
  • PEOPLE, AND THAT IS WHATTHEY TEACH IN LIBERATION
  • 00:12:44.823 --> 00:12:45.390
  • THEY TEACH IN LIBERATIONTHEOLOGY: "JESUS CAME FOR
  • 00:12:45.390 --> 00:12:46.558
  • THEOLOGY: "JESUS CAME FORTHE MARGINALIZED.
  • 00:12:46.558 --> 00:12:48.293
  • THE MARGINALIZED.JESUS CAME FOR THE
  • 00:12:48.293 --> 00:12:49.895
  • HE CAME FOR THE OPPRESSED
  • 00:12:51.296 --> 00:12:52.264
  • HE CAME FOR THE OPPRESSEDONLY."
  • 00:12:52.264 --> 00:12:54.633
  • ONLY."WE HAVE TO HAVE THE
  • 00:12:54.633 --> 00:12:55.768
  • WE HAVE TO HAVE THEGOSPEL AS THE WORD OF
  • 00:12:55.768 --> 00:12:56.635
  • GOSPEL AS THE WORD OFGOD TELLS US THAT WE ARE
  • 00:12:56.635 --> 00:12:57.936
  • GOD TELLS US THAT WE AREALL OPPRESSED BY SIN, AND
  • 00:12:57.936 --> 00:12:59.338
  • ALL OPPRESSED BY SIN, ANDWITHOUT CHRIST, WE DON'T
  • 00:12:59.338 --> 00:13:00.839
  • WITHOUT CHRIST, WE DON'THAVE A PRAYER.
  • 00:13:00.839 --> 00:13:03.142
  • HAVE A PRAYER.WE DON'T HAVE A PRAYER OF
  • 00:13:03.142 --> 00:13:04.009
  • WE DON'T HAVE A PRAYER OFFORGIVENESS.
  • 00:13:04.009 --> 00:13:05.010
  • FORGIVENESS.YOU CAN NEVER EARN SALVATION.
  • 00:13:05.010 --> 00:13:07.045
  • YOU CAN NEVER EARN SALVATION.SO AT THE END OF THE BOOK,
  • 00:13:07.045 --> 00:13:08.714
  • THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO
  • 00:13:10.315 --> 00:13:11.483
  • THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TOCOME TO CHRIST, AND
  • 00:13:11.483 --> 00:13:12.417
  • COME TO CHRIST, ANDTHERE'S TWO-- YOU CAN
  • 00:13:12.417 --> 00:13:13.352
  • THERE'S TWO-- YOU CANCHOOSE LIFE, OR YOU CAN
  • 00:13:13.352 --> 00:13:14.620
  • CHOOSE LIFE, OR YOU CANCHOOSE DEATH.
  • 00:13:14.620 --> 00:13:15.654
  • CHOOSE DEATH.SO IT'S A VERY
  • 00:13:15.654 --> 00:13:17.256
  • SO IT'S A VERYEVANGELISTIC BOOK, AS WELL
  • 00:13:17.256 --> 00:13:18.857
  • EVANGELISTIC BOOK, AS WELLAS I HOPE IT CAN BE A BOOK
  • 00:13:18.857 --> 00:13:19.858
  • AS I HOPE IT CAN BE A BOOKTHAT HELPS GROUND,
  • 00:13:19.858 --> 00:13:21.994
  • THAT HELPS GROUND,ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE,
  • 00:13:21.994 --> 00:13:23.328
  • ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE,MILLENNIALS AND YOUNG
  • 00:13:23.328 --> 00:13:24.730
  • MILLENNIALS AND YOUNGPEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHURCH
  • 00:13:24.730 --> 00:13:26.498
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHURCHAND PROBABLY ARE MAYBE
  • 00:13:26.498 --> 00:13:28.100
  • AND PROBABLY ARE MAYBEBORN AGAIN, BUT THEY DON'T
  • 00:13:28.100 --> 00:13:28.734
  • BORN AGAIN, BUT THEY DON'TUNDERSTAND THEIR FAITH,
  • 00:13:28.734 --> 00:13:30.202
  • UNDERSTAND THEIR FAITH,BUT THEY'RE BEING
  • 00:13:30.202 --> 00:13:31.503
  • BUT THEY'RE BEINGBOMBARDED WITH LIES, LIES
  • 00:13:31.503 --> 00:13:33.172
  • BOMBARDED WITH LIES, LIESEVERY DAY.
  • 00:13:33.172 --> 00:13:34.006
  • BEING RAISED IN A CULTURE
  • 00:13:36.041 --> 00:13:37.643
  • BEING RAISED IN A CULTUREWHERE TRUTH CHANGES EVERY
  • 00:13:37.643 --> 00:13:39.478
  • WHERE TRUTH CHANGES EVERYSINGLE DAY, AND THE ONLY
  • 00:13:39.478 --> 00:13:41.446
  • SINGLE DAY, AND THE ONLYWAY TO FIND OUT IS TO GO
  • 00:13:41.446 --> 00:13:42.481
  • WAY TO FIND OUT IS TO GOON SOCIAL MEDIA AND FIND
  • 00:13:42.481 --> 00:13:43.582
  • ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND FINDOUT WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU:
  • 00:13:43.582 --> 00:13:44.550
  • OUT WHAT PEOPLE TELL YOU:"YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY
  • 00:13:44.550 --> 00:13:45.050
  • "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAYTHIS.
  • 00:13:45.050 --> 00:13:46.218
  • THIS.YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS.
  • 00:13:46.218 --> 00:13:47.186
  • YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS.NOW, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
  • 00:13:47.186 --> 00:13:48.687
  • NOW, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWEDBELIEVE THIS."
  • 00:13:48.687 --> 00:13:49.888
  • BELIEVE THIS."THAT IS A CHAOTIC WORLD
  • 00:13:49.888 --> 00:13:51.256
  • THAT IS A CHAOTIC WORLDTO GROW UP IN.
  • 00:13:51.256 --> 00:13:52.724
  • TO GROW UP IN.- ERIC: WELL, AND I
  • 00:13:52.724 --> 00:13:55.294
  • - ERIC: WELL, AND IREALLY THINK THAT WE NEED
  • 00:13:55.294 --> 00:13:56.461
  • REALLY THINK THAT WE NEEDTO HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:13:56.461 --> 00:13:59.364
  • TO HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW,TRUTH DETECTORS ON,
  • 00:13:59.364 --> 00:13:59.965
  • TRUTH DETECTORS ON,OUR ANTENNA ON.
  • 00:13:59.965 --> 00:14:00.566
  • OUR ANTENNA ON.WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS,
  • 00:14:00.566 --> 00:14:01.066
  • WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS,"DON'T SAY THIS,"
  • 00:14:01.066 --> 00:14:01.800
  • "DON'T SAY THIS,"OR "YOU CAN'T SAY THAT,"
  • 00:14:01.800 --> 00:14:03.035
  • OR "YOU CAN'T SAY THAT,"RIGHT AWAY, MY INSTINCT IS
  • 00:14:03.035 --> 00:14:04.636
  • RIGHT AWAY, MY INSTINCT IS"WELL, TELL ME WHY 'CAUSE
  • 00:14:04.636 --> 00:14:05.470
  • "WELL, TELL ME WHY 'CAUSEI'M GONNA SAY IT.
  • 00:14:05.470 --> 00:14:06.171
  • I'M GONNA SAY IT.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:14:06.171 --> 00:14:06.705
  • [LAUGHTER]CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY I
  • 00:14:06.705 --> 00:14:07.706
  • CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY ICAN'T SAY THAT?
  • 00:14:07.706 --> 00:14:08.540
  • CAN'T SAY THAT?BECAUSE, IF YOU TELL ME I
  • 00:14:08.540 --> 00:14:09.408
  • BECAUSE, IF YOU TELL ME ISHOULDN'T SAY SOMETHING,
  • 00:14:09.408 --> 00:14:10.976
  • SHOULDN'T SAY SOMETHING,SOMETHIN' TELLS ME MAYBE I
  • 00:14:10.976 --> 00:14:11.910
  • SOMETHIN' TELLS ME MAYBE ISHOULD SAY IT, AND YOU'RE
  • 00:14:11.910 --> 00:14:12.911
  • SHOULD SAY IT, AND YOU'RESCARED TO DEATH OF MY
  • 00:14:12.911 --> 00:14:15.747
  • SCARED TO DEATH OF MYSAYING IT.
  • 00:14:15.747 --> 00:14:16.548
  • SAYING IT.MAYBE YOU'RE SCARED TO
  • 00:14:16.548 --> 00:14:17.382
  • MAYBE YOU'RE SCARED TODEATH OF HAVIN' THIS
  • 00:14:17.382 --> 00:14:17.916
  • DEATH OF HAVIN' THISCONVERSATION, SO YOU'RE
  • 00:14:17.916 --> 00:14:19.251
  • CONVERSATION, SO YOU'RETRYIN' TO SHUT ME DOWN?"
  • 00:14:19.251 --> 00:14:21.220
  • TRYIN' TO SHUT ME DOWN?"- JOHN: YES.
  • 00:14:21.220 --> 00:14:21.753
  • - JOHN: YES.- ERIC: "I DON'T THINK
  • 00:14:21.753 --> 00:14:22.721
  • - ERIC: "I DON'T THINKSHUTTIN' ME DOWN IS A GOOD
  • 00:14:22.721 --> 00:14:23.255
  • SHUTTIN' ME DOWN IS A GOODWAY TO CONVINCE ME THAT
  • 00:14:23.255 --> 00:14:24.423
  • WAY TO CONVINCE ME THATYOU'RE RIGHT.
  • 00:14:24.423 --> 00:14:25.123
  • YOU'RE RIGHT.SOMEHOW I KNOW."
  • 00:14:25.123 --> 00:14:25.958
  • SOMEHOW I KNOW."- JOHN: YEAH.
  • 00:14:25.958 --> 00:14:27.092
  • - JOHN: YEAH.- ERIC: YOU KNOW, RIGHT
  • 00:14:27.092 --> 00:14:29.895
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW, RIGHTBEHIND ME IS THE PICTURE
  • 00:14:29.895 --> 00:14:31.330
  • BEHIND ME IS THE PICTUREOF DIETRICH BONHOEFFER,
  • 00:14:31.330 --> 00:14:31.864
  • OF DIETRICH BONHOEFFER,AND HE WAS ONE OF THE FEW
  • 00:14:31.864 --> 00:14:33.165
  • AND HE WAS ONE OF THE FEWCHRISTIANS IN HIS DAY,
  • 00:14:33.165 --> 00:14:35.234
  • CHRISTIANS IN HIS DAY,THEY COULD SMELL THIS
  • 00:14:35.234 --> 00:14:36.935
  • THEY COULD SMELL THISSTUFF, AND THEY SAID,
  • 00:14:36.935 --> 00:14:37.936
  • STUFF, AND THEY SAID,"I DON'T CARE IF I DIE
  • 00:14:37.936 --> 00:14:39.004
  • "I DON'T CARE IF I DIEFIGHTING THIS.
  • 00:14:39.004 --> 00:14:40.272
  • FIGHTING THIS.I'M ALREADY DEAD IN CHRIST.
  • 00:14:40.272 --> 00:14:42.007
  • I'M ALREADY DEAD IN CHRIST.HE IS MY LIFE.
  • 00:14:42.007 --> 00:14:43.876
  • HE IS MY LIFE.HE IS LIFE, AND I'M GONNA
  • 00:14:43.876 --> 00:14:45.577
  • HE IS LIFE, AND I'M GONNADO EVERYTHING I CAN TO
  • 00:14:45.577 --> 00:14:46.945
  • DO EVERYTHING I CAN TOSPEAK UP FOR TRUTH, AND I
  • 00:14:46.945 --> 00:14:48.213
  • SPEAK UP FOR TRUTH, AND IDON'T CARE IF PEOPLE MOCK
  • 00:14:48.213 --> 00:14:49.581
  • DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE MOCKME BECAUSE I'M PLAYING TO
  • 00:14:49.581 --> 00:14:52.551
  • ME BECAUSE I'M PLAYING TOAN AUDIENCE OF ONE.
  • 00:14:52.551 --> 00:14:53.886
  • AN AUDIENCE OF ONE.THAT IS THE LORD.
  • 00:14:53.886 --> 00:14:54.620
  • THAT IS THE LORD.I CARE ABOUT WHAT HE
  • 00:14:54.620 --> 00:14:55.454
  • I CARE ABOUT WHAT HETHINKS OF ME."
  • 00:14:55.454 --> 00:14:56.355
  • WHY WOULD WE THINK WE'D BE
  • 00:14:58.423 --> 00:14:59.758
  • WHY WOULD WE THINK WE'D BEANY DIFFERENT?
  • 00:14:59.758 --> 00:15:00.993
  • ANY DIFFERENT?WHY WOULD WE THINK THAT IN
  • 00:15:00.993 --> 00:15:01.560
  • WHY WOULD WE THINK THAT INAMERICA TODAY WE WOULD BE
  • 00:15:01.560 --> 00:15:02.494
  • AMERICA TODAY WE WOULD BESOMEHOW MORALLY SUPERIOR
  • 00:15:02.494 --> 00:15:03.195
  • SOMEHOW MORALLY SUPERIORTO THE GERMAN CHRISTIANS
  • 00:15:03.195 --> 00:15:05.731
  • TO THE GERMAN CHRISTIANSIN GERMANY DURING THE '30s?
  • 00:15:05.731 --> 00:15:06.265
  • IN GERMANY DURING THE '30s?WE'RE NOT.
  • 00:15:06.265 --> 00:15:07.299
  • - JOHN: YES.
  • 00:15:08.700 --> 00:15:09.534
  • - JOHN: YES.- ERIC: SO THAT'S WHY
  • 00:15:09.534 --> 00:15:10.035
  • - ERIC: SO THAT'S WHYYOUR MESSAGE IS SO
  • 00:15:10.035 --> 00:15:10.569
  • YOUR MESSAGE IS SOIMPORTANT, JOHN, BECAUSE
  • 00:15:10.569 --> 00:15:11.136
  • IMPORTANT, JOHN, BECAUSE"AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH,"
  • 00:15:11.136 --> 00:15:12.504
  • "AWAKE & ALIVE TO TRUTH,"THIS BOOK CONTAINS STUFF
  • 00:15:12.504 --> 00:15:14.373
  • THIS BOOK CONTAINS STUFFTHAT--
  • 00:15:14.373 --> 00:15:14.940
  • THAT--YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:15:14.940 --> 00:15:15.440
  • YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLECOULD GO TO CHURCH FOR
  • 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.442
  • COULD GO TO CHURCH FORDECADES.
  • 00:15:17.442 --> 00:15:17.976
  • DECADES.THEY'RE NEVER GONNA HEAR
  • 00:15:17.976 --> 00:15:18.810
  • THEY'RE NEVER GONNA HEARTHIS FROM THEIR PULPITS.
  • 00:15:18.810 --> 00:15:19.611
  • THIS FROM THEIR PULPITS.IT PROBABLY MEANS THEY'RE
  • 00:15:19.611 --> 00:15:20.579
  • IT PROBABLY MEANS THEY'REGOIN' TO THE WRONG CHURCH,
  • 00:15:20.579 --> 00:15:22.547
  • GOIN' TO THE WRONG CHURCH,BUT WE NEED THIS
  • 00:15:22.547 --> 00:15:23.582
  • BUT WE NEED THISINFORMATION RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:15:23.582 --> 00:15:25.550
  • INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.- JOHN: WELL, I THINK
  • 00:15:25.550 --> 00:15:26.518
  • - JOHN: WELL, I THINKTHAT'S A INTERESTING POINT
  • 00:15:26.518 --> 00:15:28.153
  • THAT'S A INTERESTING POINTYOU JUST MADE BECAUSE I'VE
  • 00:15:28.153 --> 00:15:29.721
  • YOU JUST MADE BECAUSE I'VEBEEN TELLIN' PEOPLE FOR
  • 00:15:29.721 --> 00:15:30.255
  • BEEN TELLIN' PEOPLE FORTHE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT
  • 00:15:30.255 --> 00:15:31.423
  • THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHTYEARS,
  • 00:15:31.423 --> 00:15:32.090
  • YEARS,WHEN I REALLY STARTED
  • 00:15:32.090 --> 00:15:33.025
  • WHEN I REALLY STARTEDNOTICING STUFF IS CHANGING
  • 00:15:33.025 --> 00:15:33.892
  • NOTICING STUFF IS CHANGINGIN THE WORLD, HOW
  • 00:15:33.892 --> 00:15:35.661
  • IN THE WORLD, HOWDIFFERENT THIS IS.
  • 00:15:35.661 --> 00:15:38.363
  • DIFFERENT THIS IS.SEE, LIKE, 10, 20 YEARS AGO,
  • 00:15:38.363 --> 00:15:39.064
  • SEE, LIKE, 10, 20 YEARS AGO,LIVING FOR JESUS WAS
  • 00:15:39.064 --> 00:15:41.366
  • LIVING FOR JESUS WASREALLY JUST AN ISSUE OF
  • 00:15:41.366 --> 00:15:42.834
  • REALLY JUST AN ISSUE OFSAYING, "NO," TO THE FLESH.
  • 00:15:42.834 --> 00:15:43.335
  • SAYING, "NO," TO THE FLESH.YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A
  • 00:15:43.335 --> 00:15:44.870
  • YOU KNOW, THAT WAS AHEDONISTIC CULTURE OF SEX,
  • 00:15:44.870 --> 00:15:47.039
  • HEDONISTIC CULTURE OF SEX,DRUGS, ROCK AND ROLL,
  • 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:48.607
  • DRUGS, ROCK AND ROLL,AND YOU KNEW WHAT TO DO TO
  • 00:15:48.607 --> 00:15:49.875
  • AND YOU KNEW WHAT TO DO TOLIVE FOR JESUS.
  • 00:15:49.875 --> 00:15:50.375
  • LIVE FOR JESUS.YOU SAID, "NO," TO THOSE
  • 00:15:50.375 --> 00:15:51.910
  • NOW IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE
  • 00:15:53.111 --> 00:15:54.346
  • NOW IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSEWE ARE BEING ATTACKED WITH
  • 00:15:54.346 --> 00:15:56.214
  • WE ARE BEING ATTACKED WITHIDEOLOGIES THAT SOMETIMES
  • 00:15:56.214 --> 00:15:58.083
  • IDEOLOGIES THAT SOMETIMESSOUND A LITTLE LIKE
  • 00:15:58.083 --> 00:16:00.519
  • BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY, YOU
  • 00:16:01.620 --> 00:16:03.655
  • BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY, YOUKNOW, PUTTING THEMSELVES
  • 00:16:03.655 --> 00:16:05.057
  • KNOW, PUTTING THEMSELVESUP AGAINST CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:16:05.057 --> 00:16:06.992
  • UP AGAINST CHRISTIANITY.SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE
  • 00:16:06.992 --> 00:16:07.926
  • SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVETO HAVE THE EYES TO SEE
  • 00:16:07.926 --> 00:16:09.428
  • TO HAVE THE EYES TO SEEWHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
  • 00:16:09.428 --> 00:16:10.829
  • WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEWORLD, AND EARS TO KNOW,
  • 00:16:10.829 --> 00:16:11.830
  • WORLD, AND EARS TO KNOW,"WELL, THAT DOESN'T SOUND
  • 00:16:11.830 --> 00:16:13.031
  • "WELL, THAT DOESN'T SOUNDLIKE TRUTH."
  • 00:16:13.031 --> 00:16:13.799
  • LIKE TRUTH."SO THE BATTLE NOW ISN'T
  • 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:15.867
  • SO THE BATTLE NOW ISN'TJUST AGAINST HEDONISM.
  • 00:16:15.867 --> 00:16:16.435
  • JUST AGAINST HEDONISM.THE BATTLE NOW IS AGAINST
  • 00:16:16.435 --> 00:16:19.204
  • AND THIS IDEA THAT "WE CAN
  • 00:16:20.405 --> 00:16:22.107
  • AND THIS IDEA THAT "WE CANALL REACH UTOPIA.
  • 00:16:22.107 --> 00:16:23.241
  • ALL REACH UTOPIA.WE DON'T NEED GOD."
  • 00:16:23.241 --> 00:16:24.977
  • WE DON'T NEED GOD."BUT UTOPIA, TO SOME
  • 00:16:24.977 --> 00:16:26.478
  • BUT UTOPIA, TO SOMECHRISTIANS, KIND OF SOUNDS
  • 00:16:26.478 --> 00:16:27.879
  • CHRISTIANS, KIND OF SOUNDSLIKE THE KINGDOM OF GOD,
  • 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.414
  • LIKE THE KINGDOM OF GOD,BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
  • 00:16:29.414 --> 00:16:29.948
  • BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.- ERIC: BUT ISN'T THAT
  • 00:16:29.948 --> 00:16:30.983
  • - ERIC: BUT ISN'T THATTHE POINT?
  • 00:16:30.983 --> 00:16:31.583
  • THE POINT?I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT THAT'S
  • 00:16:31.583 --> 00:16:33.652
  • I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT THAT'SWHAT MAKES IT SO WICKED.
  • 00:16:33.652 --> 00:16:34.319
  • WHAT MAKES IT SO WICKED.IF I SAY, "HEY, I'M THE
  • 00:16:34.319 --> 00:16:35.587
  • IF I SAY, "HEY, I'M THEDEVIL; FOLLOW ME," PEOPLE
  • 00:16:35.587 --> 00:16:36.788
  • DEVIL; FOLLOW ME," PEOPLEWOULD BE LIKE, "OH, I KNOW
  • 00:16:36.788 --> 00:16:38.223
  • BUT IF THE DEVIL COMES AS
  • 00:16:40.425 --> 00:16:41.960
  • BUT IF THE DEVIL COMES ASAN ANGEL OF LIGHT, AND HE
  • 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:42.761
  • AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, AND HESAYS, "I'M GOD; FOLLOW
  • 00:16:42.761 --> 00:16:44.863
  • SAYS, "I'M GOD; FOLLOWME," OR "YOU CAN BE GOD;
  • 00:16:44.863 --> 00:16:45.998
  • ME," OR "YOU CAN BE GOD;FOLLOW YOURSELF," THAT IS
  • 00:16:45.998 --> 00:16:48.367
  • AND SO WE NEED TO
  • 00:16:50.035 --> 00:16:51.269
  • AND SO WE NEED TOUNDERSTAND THAT THE
  • 00:16:51.269 --> 00:16:51.870
  • UNDERSTAND THAT THECOUNTERFEIT IS THE MOST
  • 00:16:51.870 --> 00:16:52.637
  • COUNTERFEIT IS THE MOSTWICKED THING.
  • 00:16:52.637 --> 00:16:53.505
  • WICKED THING.THE THING THAT COMES SO
  • 00:16:53.505 --> 00:16:55.240
  • THE THING THAT COMES SOCLOSE EXCEPT IT'S
  • 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:56.208
  • CLOSE EXCEPT IT'SULTIMATELY OPPOSED, THAT'S
  • 00:16:56.208 --> 00:16:57.009
  • ULTIMATELY OPPOSED, THAT'SWHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT,
  • 00:16:57.009 --> 00:16:58.076
  • WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT,AND I WANT PEOPLE TO
  • 00:16:58.076 --> 00:16:58.810
  • AND I WANT PEOPLE TOUNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:16:58.810 --> 00:17:01.179
  • UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHATWOKE CULTURE IS.
  • 00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:02.080
  • WOKE CULTURE IS.IT PRETENDS TO BE
  • 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.450
  • IT PRETENDS TO BECHRISTIAN.
  • 00:17:05.450 --> 00:17:06.385
  • CHRISTIAN.IT TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:17:06.385 --> 00:17:07.386
  • IT TALKS ABOUTCHRISTIANITY EXCEPT WHAT
  • 00:17:07.386 --> 00:17:09.488
  • CHRISTIANITY EXCEPT WHATDOES IT CARE ABOUT RIGHT
  • 00:17:09.488 --> 00:17:10.389
  • DOES IT CARE ABOUT RIGHTOR WRONG?
  • 00:17:10.389 --> 00:17:11.289
  • OR WRONG?IT DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD.
  • 00:17:11.289 --> 00:17:13.158
  • IT DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD.IT BELIEVES IN WHATEVER.
  • 00:17:13.158 --> 00:17:14.292
  • IT BELIEVES IN WHATEVER.WE KNOW WHAT IT BELIEVES IN.
  • 00:17:14.292 --> 00:17:15.394
  • WE KNOW WHAT IT BELIEVES IN.IT BELIEVES IN NOTHING,
  • 00:17:15.394 --> 00:17:16.595
  • IT BELIEVES IN NOTHING,AND IT DOESN'T WORK
  • 00:17:16.595 --> 00:17:17.195
  • WE'VE JUST GOT MOMENTS LEFT.
  • 00:17:18.830 --> 00:17:19.931
  • WE'VE JUST GOT MOMENTS LEFT.JOHN COOPER OF SKILLET,
  • 00:17:19.931 --> 00:17:22.167
  • JOHN COOPER OF SKILLET,HOW DO WE GET YOUR BOOK
  • 00:17:22.167 --> 00:17:23.135
  • HOW DO WE GET YOUR BOOKAND STAY IN TOUCH WITH YOU?
  • 00:17:23.135 --> 00:17:23.969
  • AND STAY IN TOUCH WITH YOU?- JOHN: THERE'S ONLY ONE
  • 00:17:23.969 --> 00:17:25.137
  • - JOHN: THERE'S ONLY ONEPLACE TO GET IT BECAUSE I
  • 00:17:25.137 --> 00:17:25.871
  • PLACE TO GET IT BECAUSE ISELF-PUBLISHED IT.
  • 00:17:25.871 --> 00:17:27.305
  • SELF-PUBLISHED IT.WHEN I FIRST STARTED
  • 00:17:27.305 --> 00:17:29.241
  • WHEN I FIRST STARTEDTALKIN' TO PUBLISHERS,
  • 00:17:29.241 --> 00:17:30.709
  • TALKIN' TO PUBLISHERS,I HAD TONS OF PUBLISHERS
  • 00:17:30.709 --> 00:17:32.544
  • I HAD TONS OF PUBLISHERSWANTING TO DO A BOOK WITH
  • 00:17:32.544 --> 00:17:33.278
  • WANTING TO DO A BOOK WITHME UNTIL THEY READ IT, AND
  • 00:17:33.278 --> 00:17:33.779
  • ME UNTIL THEY READ IT, ANDTHEN NOBODY WANTED TO
  • 00:17:33.779 --> 00:17:35.480
  • THEN NOBODY WANTED TOTOUCH IT.
  • 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:36.181
  • TOUCH IT.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:17:36.181 --> 00:17:36.782
  • [LAUGHTER]AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:17:36.782 --> 00:17:37.883
  • AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHAT?I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE
  • 00:17:37.883 --> 00:17:38.817
  • I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEBOOK IS MAYBE A LITTLE TOO
  • 00:17:38.817 --> 00:17:41.453
  • IT'S A LITTLE TOO TRUTHFUL
  • 00:17:43.121 --> 00:17:44.322
  • IT'S A LITTLE TOO TRUTHFULABOUT THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:17:44.322 --> 00:17:45.323
  • ABOUT THE GOSPEL.IT'S NOT A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:17:45.323 --> 00:17:45.891
  • IT'S NOT A CHRISTIANSELF-HELP BOOK.
  • 00:17:45.891 --> 00:17:48.527
  • SELF-HELP BOOK.THIS IS-- TAKES YOU BACK
  • 00:17:48.527 --> 00:17:50.362
  • IT'S NOT NEW WISDOM.
  • 00:17:51.963 --> 00:17:53.131
  • IT'S NOT NEW WISDOM.IT'S OLD WISDOM, ALL RIGHT?
  • 00:17:53.131 --> 00:17:54.366
  • IT'S OLD WISDOM, ALL RIGHT?EVERYBODY THAT'S QUOTED IN
  • 00:17:54.366 --> 00:17:55.434
  • EVERYBODY THAT'S QUOTED INTHERE IS MATTHEW HENRY OR
  • 00:17:55.434 --> 00:17:56.401
  • THERE IS MATTHEW HENRY ORJOHN CALVIN OR AUGUSTINE,
  • 00:17:56.401 --> 00:17:56.868
  • JOHN CALVIN OR AUGUSTINE,OKAY?
  • 00:17:56.868 --> 00:17:57.803
  • OKAY?- ERIC: I WANNA BE A
  • 00:17:57.803 --> 00:17:58.670
  • - ERIC: I WANNA BE APUBLISHER SO I CAN PUBLISH
  • 00:17:58.670 --> 00:18:00.005
  • PUBLISHER SO I CAN PUBLISHBOOKS LIKE YOURS.
  • 00:18:00.005 --> 00:18:00.872
  • BOOKS LIKE YOURS.I'M NOT KIDDING.
  • 00:18:00.872 --> 00:18:02.140
  • I'M NOT KIDDING.TELL US, HOW DO WE FIND
  • 00:18:02.140 --> 00:18:03.942
  • TELL US, HOW DO WE FINDYOUR BOOKS?
  • 00:18:03.942 --> 00:18:04.709
  • YOUR BOOKS?SINCE YOU SELF-PUBLISHED
  • 00:18:04.709 --> 00:18:05.811
  • - JOHN: GO TO MY WEBSITE,
  • 00:18:07.145 --> 00:18:11.550
  • - JOHN: GO TO MY WEBSITE,JOHNLCOOPER.COM/AWAKE.
  • 00:18:11.550 --> 00:18:15.020
  • JOHNLCOOPER.COM/AWAKE.JOHNLCOOPER.COM/AWAKE.
  • 00:18:15.020 --> 00:18:15.520
  • JOHNLCOOPER.COM/AWAKE.IT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOU
  • 00:18:15.520 --> 00:18:16.721
  • IT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOUCAN BUY IT FOR NOW.
  • 00:18:16.721 --> 00:18:17.889
  • CAN BUY IT FOR NOW.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:18:17.889 --> 00:18:18.457
  • [LAUGHTER]- ERIC: DOES SKILLET HAVE
  • 00:18:18.457 --> 00:18:19.024
  • - ERIC: DOES SKILLET HAVEA WEBSITE THAT LINKS TO
  • 00:18:19.024 --> 00:18:20.325
  • A WEBSITE THAT LINKS TOYOUR WEBSITE?
  • 00:18:20.325 --> 00:18:20.892
  • YOUR WEBSITE?- JOHN: I THINK IT DOES,
  • 00:18:20.892 --> 00:18:22.727
  • - JOHN: I THINK IT DOES,SKILLET.COM.
  • 00:18:22.727 --> 00:18:23.261
  • SKILLET.COM.- JOHN: OKAY, IN CASE
  • 00:18:23.261 --> 00:18:24.496
  • - JOHN: OKAY, IN CASEPEOPLE WANNA CHECK THAT
  • 00:18:24.496 --> 00:18:26.131
  • PEOPLE WANNA CHECK THATOUT, EXCEPT THEY HAVE TO
  • 00:18:26.131 --> 00:18:27.499
  • OUT, EXCEPT THEY HAVE TOSPELL "SKILLET" CORRECTLY,
  • 00:18:27.499 --> 00:18:28.600
  • SPELL "SKILLET" CORRECTLY,OKAY?
  • 00:18:28.600 --> 00:18:29.201
  • - JOHN: YES, THAT'S THE
  • 00:18:30.302 --> 00:18:30.836
  • - JOHN: YES, THAT'S THEHARD ONE.
  • 00:18:30.836 --> 00:18:31.470
  • HARD ONE.- ERIC: LET ME ALSO ASK
  • 00:18:31.470 --> 00:18:32.270
  • - ERIC: LET ME ALSO ASKYOU, DO YOU NOT HAVE A
  • 00:18:32.270 --> 00:18:34.039
  • YOU, DO YOU NOT HAVE APODCAST RIGHT NOW?
  • 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:36.608
  • IT'S CALLED "COOPER STUFF
  • 00:18:37.742 --> 00:18:39.811
  • IT'S CALLED "COOPER STUFFPODCAST."
  • 00:18:39.811 --> 00:18:41.379
  • PODCAST.""COOPER STUFF PODCAST."
  • 00:18:41.379 --> 00:18:42.214
  • "COOPER STUFF PODCAST."AND WE TALK
  • 00:18:42.214 --> 00:18:43.882
  • AND WE TALKABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS
  • 00:18:43.882 --> 00:18:44.483
  • ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGSTHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT
  • 00:18:44.483 --> 00:18:45.617
  • THAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUTNOW, BUT I JUST TRY TO
  • 00:18:45.617 --> 00:18:46.184
  • NOW, BUT I JUST TRY TOKEEP IT SIMPLE, SIMPLE FOR
  • 00:18:46.184 --> 00:18:47.819
  • KEEP IT SIMPLE, SIMPLE FORPEOPLE THAT AREN'T
  • 00:18:47.819 --> 00:18:48.653
  • PEOPLE THAT AREN'TBRAINIACS.
  • 00:18:48.653 --> 00:18:49.955
  • BRAINIACS.YOU JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT
  • 00:18:49.955 --> 00:18:51.089
  • YOU JUST WANNA KNOW WHATIT MEANS TO LIVE FOR CHRIST.
  • 00:18:51.089 --> 00:18:52.124
  • IT MEANS TO LIVE FOR CHRIST.NO NONSENSE.
  • 00:18:52.124 --> 00:18:53.458
  • NO NONSENSE.SO YOU CAN GET IT ON
  • 00:18:53.458 --> 00:18:54.726
  • SO YOU CAN GET IT ONAPPLE PODCAST OR SPOTIFY,
  • 00:18:54.726 --> 00:18:55.994
  • - ERIC: I LOVE IT.
  • 00:18:57.062 --> 00:18:58.063
  • - ERIC: I LOVE IT.SO YOU NEVER USE THE WORD
  • 00:18:58.063 --> 00:18:59.698
  • SO YOU NEVER USE THE WORD"HERMENEUTICS" IN YOUR
  • 00:18:59.698 --> 00:19:00.165
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:01.466 --> 00:19:03.568
  • - JOHN: MAYBE ONE TIME.
  • 00:19:03.568 --> 00:19:04.169
  • I HAD MY FRIEND JAMES WHITE
  • 00:19:04.169 --> 00:19:05.103
  • CAME ON.
  • 00:19:05.103 --> 00:19:05.971
  • I THINK HE USED
  • 00:19:05.971 --> 00:19:06.771
  • HERMENEUTICS A COUPLE TIMES.
  • 00:19:06.771 --> 00:19:07.339
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:07.339 --> 00:19:09.007
  • - ERIC: IT'S KIND OF
  • 00:19:09.007 --> 00:19:09.541
  • FUNNY.
  • 00:19:09.541 --> 00:19:10.342
  • THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE
  • 00:19:10.342 --> 00:19:11.343
  • LIKE ON TWITTER.
  • 00:19:11.343 --> 00:19:11.877
  • IF YOU USE THE WORD
  • 00:19:11.877 --> 00:19:13.645
  • HERMENEUTICS,
  • 00:19:13.645 --> 00:19:14.179
  • CHRISTOLOGY, LIKE, ANY OF
  • 00:19:16.615 --> 00:19:18.283
  • CHRISTOLOGY, LIKE, ANY OFTHAT STUFF, I'M OUT.
  • 00:19:18.283 --> 00:19:18.817
  • LIKE, I'M ALREADY EITHER
  • 00:19:20.051 --> 00:19:21.853
  • LIKE, I'M ALREADY EITHERON BLOCK VIEW--
  • 00:19:21.853 --> 00:19:22.320
  • ON BLOCK VIEW--[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:22.320 --> 00:19:23.088
  • [LAUGHTER]-- OR I'M JUST MOVIN' ON
  • 00:19:23.088 --> 00:19:23.555
  • -- OR I'M JUST MOVIN' ONTO SOMETHIN' ELSE, SO
  • 00:19:23.555 --> 00:19:24.389
  • TO SOMETHIN' ELSE, SOPLEASE DON'T USE THE WORD
  • 00:19:24.389 --> 00:19:24.856
  • PLEASE DON'T USE THE WORDHERMENEUTICS.
  • 00:19:24.856 --> 00:19:26.525
  • HERMENEUTICS.BUT, NO, I WANNA SAY THAT,
  • 00:19:26.525 --> 00:19:27.425
  • BUT, NO, I WANNA SAY THAT,IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,
  • 00:19:27.425 --> 00:19:28.393
  • IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,THAT YOU-- YOU HAVE THE
  • 00:19:28.393 --> 00:19:29.728
  • THAT YOU-- YOU HAVE THEABILITY TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:19:29.728 --> 00:19:30.762
  • ABILITY TO UNDERSTANDTHIS INTELLECTUALLY, BUT
  • 00:19:30.762 --> 00:19:31.563
  • THIS INTELLECTUALLY, BUTYOU'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE
  • 00:19:31.563 --> 00:19:32.097
  • YOU'RE ABLE TO COMMUNICATEIT IN A WAY THAT WE ALL
  • 00:19:32.097 --> 00:19:32.697
  • IT IN A WAY THAT WE ALLNEED TO UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:19:32.697 --> 00:19:33.565
  • NEED TO UNDERSTAND.YOU KNOW, TO CUT TO THE
  • 00:19:33.565 --> 00:19:34.900
  • YOU KNOW, TO CUT TO THECHASE, WOKE CULTURE IS OF
  • 00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:36.234
  • WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT
  • 00:19:37.802 --> 00:19:38.670
  • WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK ATIT, WHERE IT COMES FROM,
  • 00:19:38.670 --> 00:19:40.338
  • IT, WHERE IT COMES FROM,IT SOUNDS SO GREAT, IT
  • 00:19:40.338 --> 00:19:42.440
  • IT SOUNDS SO GREAT, ITSOUNDS RIGHT,
  • 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:43.341
  • SOUNDS RIGHT,IT SOUNDS RESPECTFUL
  • 00:19:43.341 --> 00:19:45.377
  • IT SOUNDS RESPECTFULOF OTHER PEOPLE,
  • 00:19:45.377 --> 00:19:46.011
  • OF OTHER PEOPLE,YES, IT DOES, BUT
  • 00:19:46.011 --> 00:19:47.078
  • YES, IT DOES, BUTI'LL TELL YOU, AT THE
  • 00:19:47.078 --> 00:19:48.446
  • AND IT'S THAT MUCH MORE
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  • AND IT'S THAT MUCH MOREWICKED BECAUSE IT PRETENDS
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  • WICKED BECAUSE IT PRETENDSTO BE GOOD.
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  • TO BE GOOD.AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDOF LIKE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
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  • OF LIKE PEOPLE TALK ABOUTSOCIALISM OR THIS OR THAT.
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  • SOCIALISM OR THIS OR THAT.I THOUGHT,
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  • I THOUGHT,"IF THAT HELPED PEOPLE,
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  • "IF THAT HELPED PEOPLE,I'D BE ALL FOR IT,"
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  • I'D BE ALL FOR IT,"BUT I WILL TELL YOU,
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  • BUT I WILL TELL YOU,SOCIALISM AND ALL THIS
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  • SOCIALISM AND ALL THISKIND OF STUFF WE'RE
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  • KIND OF STUFF WE'RETALKING ABOUT, IF YOU
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  • TALKING ABOUT, IF YOUREALLY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE,
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  • REALLY CARE ABOUT PEOPLE,STRUGGLING PEOPLE,
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  • STRUGGLING PEOPLE,PEOPLE IN URBAN COMMUNITIES,
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  • PEOPLE IN URBAN COMMUNITIES,IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT
  • 00:20:08.667 --> 00:20:09.668
  • IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUTTHEM, YOU NEED TO
  • 00:20:09.668 --> 00:20:10.769
  • THEM, YOU NEED TOUNDERSTAND THAT THESE
  • 00:20:10.769 --> 00:20:12.971
  • UNDERSTAND THAT THESETHINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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  • THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUTARE THE ENEMY OF THOSE
  • 00:20:14.906 --> 00:20:16.274
  • ARE THE ENEMY OF THOSEPEOPLE-- WILL HURT THOSE
  • 00:20:16.274 --> 00:20:16.808
  • PEOPLE-- WILL HURT THOSEPEOPLE, WILL TALK ABOUT
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  • PEOPLE, WILL TALK ABOUTTREATING THEM RIGHT BUT
  • 00:20:18.043 --> 00:20:21.580
  • TREATING THEM RIGHT BUTWILL END UP CRUSHING THEM.
  • 00:20:21.580 --> 00:20:22.514
  • WILL END UP CRUSHING THEM.SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK
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  • SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANKYOU, JOHN, FOR DOING THIS.
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  • YOU, JOHN, FOR DOING THIS.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
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  • I THINK IT'S IMPORTANTTHAT SOMEONE LIKE YOU,
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  • THAT SOMEONE LIKE YOU,WITH YOUR VOICE, IS
  • 00:20:29.087 --> 00:20:30.589
  • WITH YOUR VOICE, ISWILLING TO GO OUT THERE ON
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  • WILLING TO GO OUT THERE ONA LIMB.
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  • A LIMB.YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY GOD
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  • YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY GODGIVES US OUR PLATFORMS IS
  • 00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:35.493
  • GIVES US OUR PLATFORMS ISTO USE THEM FOR HIS
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  • TO USE THEM FOR HISPURPOSES, AND YOU HAVE
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  • PURPOSES, AND YOU HAVEDONE THAT.
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  • DONE THAT.I SIMPLY DIDN'T THINK
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  • I SIMPLY DIDN'T THINKYOU'D WRITE A BOOK ABOUT
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  • YOU'D WRITE A BOOK ABOUTRELATIVISM.
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  • [LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]- JOHN: WELL, THAT'S VERY
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  • - JOHN: WELL, THAT'S VERYNICE.
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  • NICE.THANKS SO MUCH.
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  • THANKS SO MUCH.AND I'M SO GLAD TO TALK TO
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  • AND I'M SO GLAD TO TALK TOYOU AGAIN.
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  • YOU AGAIN.IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
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  • IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.I APPRECIATE YOU HAVIN' ME ON.
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  • GIVE MY LOVE TO KOREY
  • 00:20:53.745 --> 00:20:55.213
  • GIVE MY LOVE TO KOREYBECAUSE I HAD SO MUCH FUN
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  • BECAUSE I HAD SO MUCH FUNWHEN YOU GUYS WERE IN THE
  • 00:20:56.014 --> 00:20:56.581
  • WHEN YOU GUYS WERE IN THESTUDIO.
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  • STUDIO.I CAN'T WAIT TILL WE GET
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  • I CAN'T WAIT TILL WE GETBACK INTO THE NORMAL
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  • BACK INTO THE NORMALSTUDIO, AND WE'RE GONNA
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  • STUDIO, AND WE'RE GONNAHAVE SOME FUN--
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  • HAVE SOME FUN--- JOHN: I KNOW, MAN.
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  • - JOHN: I KNOW, MAN.- ERIC: -- AND KEEP THE
  • 00:21:03.221 --> 00:21:04.155
  • - ERIC: -- AND KEEP THECONVERSATION GOIN'.
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  • CONVERSATION GOIN'.GOD BLESS YOU, MAN.
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  • GOD BLESS YOU, MAN.THANK YOU.
  • 00:21:05.090 --> 00:21:05.824
  • THANK YOU.- JOHN: THANK YOU SO
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  • - JOHN: THANK YOU SOMUCH.
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  • [POPPING SOUND]♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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  • ♪ I'M GONNA ♪♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
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  • ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪♪ I'M GONNA ♪
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