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July 3, 2020
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THIS PROGRAM IS
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: THIS PROGRAM ISSPONSORED IN PART BY CARSHIELD,
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  • SPONSORED IN PART BY CARSHIELD,GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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  • GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLEOWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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  • OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- MALE: HEY.
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  • - MALE: HEY.[MUSIC]
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: HEY THERE,
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: HEY THERE,FOLKS.
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  • FOLKS.WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
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  • WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.I HAVE AS MY GUEST TODAY,
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  • I HAVE AS MY GUEST TODAY,DAVID BARTON.
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  • DAVID BARTON.HE'S WITH WALLBUILDERS.
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  • HE'S WITH WALLBUILDERS.DAVID, THRILLED TO HAVE YOU.
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  • DAVID, THRILLED TO HAVE YOU.WHEN I THINK HISTORY, WHEN
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  • WHEN I THINK HISTORY, WHENI THINK AMERICAN HISTORY,
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  • I THINK AMERICAN HISTORY,I THINK OF YOU, AND I'M SO
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  • I THINK OF YOU, AND I'M SOGLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET
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  • GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GETYOU BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING
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  • YOU BECAUSE WE ARE HAVINGA TOUGH TIME IN THIS COUNTRY.
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  • A TOUGH TIME IN THIS COUNTRY.THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
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  • THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLETRYIN' TO TEAR DOWN HISTORY.
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  • TRYIN' TO TEAR DOWN HISTORY.THERE ARE MIXED MOTIVES.
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  • THERE ARE MIXED MOTIVES.IT'S COMPLICATED.
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  • IT'S COMPLICATED.THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES
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  • THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDESTO THE ISSUE.
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  • TO THE ISSUE.BUT WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF
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  • BUT WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OFWHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?
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  • WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?- DAVID BARTON: WELL,
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  • - DAVID BARTON: WELL,THIS IS A GREAT
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  • THIS IS A GREATILLUSTRATION OF HOW LITTLE
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  • ILLUSTRATION OF HOW LITTLEWE KNOW ABOUT OUR OWN HISTORY.
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  • WE KNOW ABOUT OUR OWN HISTORY.AS YOU LOOK AT-- I'M JUST
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  • AS YOU LOOK AT-- I'M JUSTSURPRISED EVEN AS I SEE
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  • SURPRISED EVEN AS I SEESTATUES COMING DOWN, NOT
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  • STATUES COMING DOWN, NOTJUST THOSE RELATED TO
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  • BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE
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  • BUT HOW MANY OF THOSESTATUES ARE ACTUALLY OF
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  • STATUES ARE ACTUALLY OFANTIRACIST KIND OF FOLKS.
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  • ANTIRACIST KIND OF FOLKS.I MEAN, TO TEAR DOWN THE
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  • I MEAN, TO TEAR DOWN THEMASS 54TH STATUE--
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  • MASS 54TH STATUE--OH, MY GOSH.
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  • OH, MY GOSH.I MEAN, THAT'S THE 2ND
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  • I MEAN, THAT'S THE 2NDBLACK REGIMENT OF THE
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  • BLACK REGIMENT OF THECIVIL WAR.
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  • CIVIL WAR.TO TEAR DOWN THE STATUE IN
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  • TO TEAR DOWN THE STATUE INMINNESOTA OF THE GUY.
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  • MINNESOTA OF THE GUY.IT'S A MONUMENT TO THOSE
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  • IT'S A MONUMENT TO THOSEWHO WERE LYNCHED, RACIALLY
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  • WHO WERE LYNCHED, RACIALLYLYNCHED.
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  • LYNCHED.THEY'RE TEARING THAT DOWN.
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  • THEY'RE TEARING THAT DOWN.THEY'RE JUST TEARING
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  • THEY'RE JUST TEARINGANYTHING DOWN WITH HISTORY
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  • ANYTHING DOWN WITH HISTORYTHEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.
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  • THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.THEY'RE TEARING DOWN
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  • THEY'RE TEARING DOWNULYSSES S. GRANT MONUMENT.
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  • ULYSSES S. GRANT MONUMENT.THAT'S CRAZY.
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  • THAT'S CRAZY.- ERIC: I HADN'T HEARD
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  • - ERIC: I HADN'T HEARDABOUT THE FIRST TWO THAT
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  • WHERE ARE THEY?
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  • WHERE ARE THEY?AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE
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  • AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT MOREABOUT THOSE.
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  • ABOUT THOSE.THE MASSACHUSETTS 54--
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  • THE MASSACHUSETTS 54--WHAT IS THAT?
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  • - DAVID: THE MASS 54TH IS
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  • - DAVID: THE MASS 54TH ISA MONUMENT IN BOSTON, AND
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  • A MONUMENT IN BOSTON, ANDTHE MASS 54TH WAS A BLACK
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  • THE MASS 54TH WAS A BLACKREGIMENT IN THE CIVIL WAR
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  • REGIMENT IN THE CIVIL WARTHAT FOUGHT FOR LIBERTY.
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  • THAT FOUGHT FOR LIBERTY.IT WAS FOUNDED BY
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  • IT WAS FOUNDED BYFREDERICK DOUGLASS, ONE OF
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  • FREDERICK DOUGLASS, ONE OFTWO REGIMENTS HE FOUNDED.
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  • TWO REGIMENTS HE FOUNDED.AND SO FREDERICK DOUGLASS
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  • AND SO FREDERICK DOUGLASSRECRUITED BLACK MEN TO GO
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  • RECRUITED BLACK MEN TO GOFIGHT FOR THEIR OWN
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  • FIGHT FOR THEIR OWNFREEDOM AND LIBERTY.
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  • FREEDOM AND LIBERTY.IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT
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  • IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANTUNIT.
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  • UNIT.IT FOUGHT IN THE BATTLE
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  • IT FOUGHT IN THE BATTLEOF FORT WAGNER, AND THAT'S
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  • OF FORT WAGNER, AND THAT'SWHERE ACTUALLY THE NATION
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  • WHERE ACTUALLY THE NATIONLEARNED, "HEY, BLACKS AND
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  • LEARNED, "HEY, BLACKS ANDWHITES ARE EQUAL.
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  • WHITES ARE EQUAL.THESE GUYS ARE GREAT SOLDIERS.
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  • THESE GUYS ARE GREAT SOLDIERS.THEY'RE GREAT WARRIORS.
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  • THEY'RE GREAT WARRIORS.LET 'EM FIGHT."
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  • LET 'EM FIGHT."AND SO THE MASS 54TH
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  • AND SO THE MASS 54THBECAME A VERY SIGNIFICANT
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  • BECAME A VERY SIGNIFICANTUNIT,
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  • UNIT,AND A MONUMENT IN BOSTON TO
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  • AND A MONUMENT IN BOSTON TOTHE MASS 54TH, WHICH IS A
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  • THE MASS 54TH, WHICH IS AMONUMENT OF EQUALITY,
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  • MONUMENT OF EQUALITY,WAS ATTACKED AND DEFACED,
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  • WAS ATTACKED AND DEFACED,BUT WE'RE SEEIN' THAT GOIN'
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  • BUT WE'RE SEEIN' THAT GOIN'ACROSS THERE.
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  • ACROSS THERE.BY THE WAY, THEY'RE
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  • BY THE WAY, THEY'RETEARING DOWN THE STATUE OF
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  • TEARING DOWN THE STATUE OFABRAHAM LINCOLN IN BOSTON
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  • ABRAHAM LINCOLN IN BOSTONAS WELL.
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  • AS WELL.NOW, TELL ME HOW ABRAHAM
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  • NOW, TELL ME HOW ABRAHAMLINCOLN IS A RACIST IN ANY
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  • LINCOLN IS A RACIST IN ANYWAY, SHAPE, FASHION, OR
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  • WAY, SHAPE, FASHION, ORFORM, BUT WE'RE EVEN
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  • FORM, BUT WE'RE EVENTEARIN' DOWN THE STATUE OF
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  • - ERIC: HE'S A WHITE GUY,
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  • - ERIC: HE'S A WHITE GUY,AND IF SOMEBODY IS CRAZY
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  • AND IF SOMEBODY IS CRAZYENOUGH TO USE THAT AS
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  • ENOUGH TO USE THAT ASTHEIR ARBITER, YOU KNOW,
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  • THEIR ARBITER, YOU KNOW,THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT WHEN
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  • THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT WHENYOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
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  • YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEMASS 54TH, MY QUESTION IS,
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  • MASS 54TH, MY QUESTION IS,HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT
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  • HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THATANYONE COULD DO THAT?
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  • ANYONE COULD DO THAT?I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING IF
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  • I MEAN, IT'S ONE THING IFSOMEBODY IS UNHINGED, AND
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  • SOMEBODY IS UNHINGED, ANDTHEY'RE DOING IRRATIONAL
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  • THEY'RE DOING IRRATIONALTHINGS, BUT THIS IS A
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  • THINGS, BUT THIS IS ALEVEL OF IRRATIONALITY
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  • LEVEL OF IRRATIONALITYTHAT, YOU KNOW, I'M--
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  • THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M--YOU ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE
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  • YOU ALWAYS LOOK FOR THETHREAT OF RATIONALITY WITHIN
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  • THREAT OF RATIONALITY WITHINTHE IRRATIONALITY.
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  • THE IRRATIONALITY.I CAN UNDERSTAND IF
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  • I CAN UNDERSTAND IFSOMEBODY, AS I SAY, TEARS
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  • SOMEBODY, AS I SAY, TEARSDOWN GRANT OR LINCOLN OUT
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  • DOWN GRANT OR LINCOLN OUTOF PURE IGNORANCE, THAT
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  • OF PURE IGNORANCE, THATTHESE WERE WHITE LEADERS,
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  • THESE WERE WHITE LEADERS,AND WE WANNA TEAR THEM
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  • AND WE WANNA TEAR THEMDOWN JUST BECAUSE WE'RE
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  • DOWN JUST BECAUSE WE'REBEING VAGUE AND SLOPPY,
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  • BEING VAGUE AND SLOPPY,BUT CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN,
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  • BUT CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN,DID ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY
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  • DID ANYONE EXPLAIN WHYTHEY WOULD TEAR DOWN THE
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  • THEY WOULD TEAR DOWN THESTATUE OF MASSACHUSETTS 54TH?
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  • STATUE OF MASSACHUSETTS 54TH?AND TWO OTHER QUICK
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  • AND TWO OTHER QUICKQUESTIONS: IS THIS THE
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  • QUESTIONS: IS THIS THEREGIMENT THAT WAS IN THE
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  • REGIMENT THAT WAS IN THEMOVIE "GLORY," WITH
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  • MOVIE "GLORY," WITHDENZEL WASHINGTON AND
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  • - DAVID: IT IS.
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  • - DAVID: IT IS.- ERIC: AND THEN THE
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  • - ERIC: AND THEN THETHIRD QUESTION IS--
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  • THIRD QUESTION IS--I'M STUNNED THE MEDIA
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  • I'M STUNNED THE MEDIAHASN'T REPORTED ON THIS.
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  • HASN'T REPORTED ON THIS.I'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT
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  • I'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUTTHIS UNTIL JUST NOW WHEN
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  • THIS UNTIL JUST NOW WHENYOU SAID IT.
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  • YOU SAID IT.SO THAT'S, LIKE, THE
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  • SO THAT'S, LIKE, THEBIGGEST NEWS OF ALL THAT
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  • - DAVID: YEAH, IT IS.
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  • - DAVID: YEAH, IT IS.AND, BY THE WAY, THIS IS
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  • AND, BY THE WAY, THIS ISTHE REGIMENT THAT WAS IN
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  • THE REGIMENT THAT WAS INTHE MOVIE "GLORY."
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  • THE MOVIE "GLORY."SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS
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  • SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT WASFEATURED THERE.
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  • FEATURED THERE.THIS WAS A BREAKTHROUGH
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  • THIS WAS A BREAKTHROUGHUNIT IN THE CIVIL WAR THAT
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  • UNIT IN THE CIVIL WAR THATREALLY, KIND OF, BROUGHT
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  • REALLY, KIND OF, BROUGHTEQUALITY TO THE MILITARY.
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  • THE REASON THEY'RE DOING
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  • THE REASON THEY'RE DOINGTHIS, THE BEST I CAN SAY
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  • THIS, THE BEST I CAN SAYIS THEY'RE COMPLETELY
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  • IS THEY'RE COMPLETELYIGNORANT OF HISTORY
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  • IGNORANT OF HISTORYBECAUSE THEY'RE TEARING
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  • BECAUSE THEY'RE TEARINGDOWN SO MANY RACIAL
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  • DOWN SO MANY RACIALEQUALITY ADVOCATES, AND
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  • EQUALITY ADVOCATES, ANDTHEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHO
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  • THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHOTHEY ARE.
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  • THEY ARE.THEY JUST ASSUME, IF IT'S
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAME
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  • AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAMETHING I WOULD POINT TO,
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  • THING I WOULD POINT TO,I MENTIONED THAT MONUMENT
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  • I MENTIONED THAT MONUMENTIN MINNESOTA.
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  • IN MINNESOTA.IT'S ERECTED TO HONOR
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  • IT'S ERECTED TO HONORTHOSE WHO DIED FROM
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  • THOSE WHO DIED FROMLYNCHINGS.
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  • LYNCHINGS.IT'S A MONUMENT AGAINST
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  • IT'S A MONUMENT AGAINSTRACIAL INJUSTICE, AND THEY
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  • RACIAL INJUSTICE, AND THEYDEFACED THAT-- AND TEAR
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  • DEFACED THAT-- AND TEARDOWN A MONUMENT AGAINST
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  • DOWN A MONUMENT AGAINSTLYNCHING?
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  • SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A
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  • SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS AGREAT-- THIS IS A DISPLAY
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  • GREAT-- THIS IS A DISPLAYOF AMERICAN EDUCATION AT
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  • OF AMERICAN EDUCATION ATWORK BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE
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  • WORK BECAUSE THESE PEOPLEKNOW NOTHING ABOUT
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  • KNOW NOTHING ABOUTHISTORY, ONE SIDE OR
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  • THEY'RE RESPONDIN' TO
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  • THEY'RE RESPONDIN' TOSOUND BITES AND MEMES AND
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  • SOUND BITES AND MEMES ANDPHRASES, AND THIS HAS NO
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  • PHRASES, AND THIS HAS NOTHINKING BEHIND IT.
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  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL
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  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALLKINDS OF PEOPLE TEARING
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  • KINDS OF PEOPLE TEARINGDOWN STATUES.
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  • DOWN STATUES.MOST OF WHOM, IT SEEMS TO
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  • MOST OF WHOM, IT SEEMS TOME, ARE WHITE ANTIFA
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  • ME, ARE WHITE ANTIFAMARXISTS, BLACK LIVES
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  • MARXISTS, BLACK LIVESMATTER ADVOCATES WHO ARE,
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  • MATTER ADVOCATES WHO ARE,IN FACT, MARXISTS, WHO
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  • IN FACT, MARXISTS, WHOHAVE HIJACKED THIS MOMENT
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  • HAVE HIJACKED THIS MOMENTOF STRIFE IN AMERICA.
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  • OF STRIFE IN AMERICA.THEY'VE HIJACKED IT,
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  • THEY'VE HIJACKED IT,AND THERE'S A DEEP CYNICISM,
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  • AND THERE'S A DEEP CYNICISM,AND IT'S VERY EVIL BECAUSE
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  • AND IT'S VERY EVIL BECAUSEIT'S CONFUSING, ON THE ONE
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  • IT'S CONFUSING, ON THE ONEHAND, WHAT IS AN IMPORTANT
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  • HAND, WHAT IS AN IMPORTANTISSUE, WHICH IS THE ISSUE
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  • ISSUE, WHICH IS THE ISSUEOF JUSTICE, THE ISSUE OF
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  • OF JUSTICE, THE ISSUE OF"DO WE HAVE A EQUAL
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  • "DO WE HAVE A EQUALJUSTICE UNDER THE LAW
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  • JUSTICE UNDER THE LAWFOR EVERYONE?"
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  • FOR EVERYONE?"DO WE HAVE A CORRUPTION IN
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  • DO WE HAVE A CORRUPTION INOUR POLICE SYSTEMS, WHICH
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  • OUR POLICE SYSTEMS, WHICHNEEDS TO BE ROOTED OUT,
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  • NEEDS TO BE ROOTED OUT,WHETHER IT'S RACIALLY
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  • WHETHER IT'S RACIALLYMOTIVATED OR NOT, ANY KIND
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  • MOTIVATED OR NOT, ANY KINDOF CORRUPTION?
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  • OF CORRUPTION?SO THERE'S SOME REAL
  • 00:05:40.785 --> 00:05:42.186
  • SO THERE'S SOME REALISSUES HERE, BUT THERE ARE
  • 00:05:42.186 --> 00:05:45.289
  • ISSUES HERE, BUT THERE AREPEOPLE WHO ARE SLOPPILY,
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  • PEOPLE WHO ARE SLOPPILY,OR I WOULD SAY, ACTUALLY,
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  • OR I WOULD SAY, ACTUALLY,IN THIS CASE, EVILLY
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  • IN THIS CASE, EVILLYINTENTIONALLY HIJACKING
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  • INTENTIONALLY HIJACKINGSOMETHING THAT NEEDS
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  • SOMETHING THAT NEEDSATTENTION TO JUST CAUSE
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  • ATTENTION TO JUST CAUSECHAOS, AND THE EXAMPLES
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  • CHAOS, AND THE EXAMPLESTHAT YOU'VE JUST GIVEN,
  • 00:05:56.934 --> 00:05:59.203
  • THAT YOU'VE JUST GIVEN,I'M JUST AGHAST THAT THE
  • 00:05:59.203 --> 00:06:01.238
  • I'M JUST AGHAST THAT THEMEDIA HAS NOT REPORTED ON
  • 00:06:01.238 --> 00:06:02.540
  • SO HOW IS IT THAT THIS
  • 00:06:03.674 --> 00:06:04.775
  • SO HOW IS IT THAT THISCAME TO YOUR ATTENTION?
  • 00:06:04.775 --> 00:06:06.143
  • CAME TO YOUR ATTENTION?BECAUSE THIS IS THE
  • 00:06:06.143 --> 00:06:06.677
  • BECAUSE THIS IS THECRAZIEST THING I HAVE
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  • CRAZIEST THING I HAVEHEARD OF, ALL THIS
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  • HEARD OF, ALL THISCRAZY STUFF.
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  • CRAZY STUFF.- DAVID: ANYTHING THAT IS
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  • - DAVID: ANYTHING THAT ISA MEMORIAL RIGHT NOW IS
  • 00:06:10.648 --> 00:06:11.482
  • A MEMORIAL RIGHT NOW ISUNDER ATTACK:
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  • UNDER ATTACK:THE WORLD WAR I MEMORIAL,
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  • THE WORLD WAR I MEMORIAL,THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL,
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  • THE WORLD WAR II MEMORIAL,THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN MEMORIAL,
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  • THE ABRAHAM LINCOLN MEMORIAL,THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE MEMORIAL,
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  • THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE MEMORIAL,THE PIONEER, FATHERS OF OREGON,
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  • THE PIONEER, FATHERS OF OREGON,THE FOUNDERS,
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  • THE FOUNDERS,UNIVERSITY OF OREGON--
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  • UNIVERSITY OF OREGON--THEY TORE THOSE STATUES DOWN.
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  • THEY TORE THOSE STATUES DOWN.I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT'S A
  • 00:06:24.628 --> 00:06:25.663
  • I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT'S ASTATUE RIGHT NOW HAS GOT
  • 00:06:25.663 --> 00:06:27.097
  • STATUE RIGHT NOW HAS GOTTO GO, AND SO I KEEP A
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  • TO GO, AND SO I KEEP ALIST, A RUNNING LIST OF
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  • LIST, A RUNNING LIST OFALL THE STATUES THAT ARE
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  • ALL THE STATUES THAT AREBEING TORN DOWN, AND I
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  • BEING TORN DOWN, AND IKEEP PICTURES OF 'EM.
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  • KEEP PICTURES OF 'EM.I FILE THAT AWAY.
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  • I FILE THAT AWAY.IT IS AMAZING.
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  • IT IS AMAZING.ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY IS
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  • ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY ISUNDER ATTACK RIGHT NOW,
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  • UNDER ATTACK RIGHT NOW,AND THERE ARE EXTREMISTS,
  • 00:06:41.512 --> 00:06:42.079
  • AND THERE ARE EXTREMISTS,BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS
  • 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:42.780
  • BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ISTHE MEDIA IS NOT CALLING
  • 00:06:42.780 --> 00:06:43.714
  • THE MEDIA IS NOT CALLINGTHEM OUT FOR IT.
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  • THEM OUT FOR IT.THE MEDIA IS NOT
  • 00:06:44.215 --> 00:06:44.682
  • THE MEDIA IS NOTHIGHLIGHTING THE
  • 00:06:44.682 --> 00:06:46.217
  • HIGHLIGHTING THERIDICULOUS THINGS THEY'RE
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  • RIDICULOUS THINGS THEY'REDOING, AND SO THEY'RE
  • 00:06:47.117 --> 00:06:48.519
  • DOING, AND SO THEY'REREALLY KIND OF JUSTIFYING
  • 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.054
  • REALLY KIND OF JUSTIFYINGTHIS AS THE ANGER AND RAGE
  • 00:06:50.054 --> 00:06:51.689
  • THIS AS THE ANGER AND RAGETHAT STEMS FROM RACIAL
  • 00:06:51.689 --> 00:06:52.857
  • THAT STEMS FROM RACIALINJUSTICE, SYSTEMIC
  • 00:06:52.857 --> 00:06:53.791
  • INJUSTICE, SYSTEMICRACISM, ET CETERA, BUT
  • 00:06:53.791 --> 00:06:55.526
  • RACISM, ET CETERA, BUTIT'S WAY BEYOND THAT.
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  • IT'S WAY BEYOND THAT.IT IS WAY BEYOND ANY OF
  • 00:06:56.894 --> 00:06:59.129
  • IT IS WAY BEYOND ANY OFTHAT DISCUSSION.
  • 00:06:59.129 --> 00:06:59.730
  • THAT DISCUSSION.- ERIC: WE HAVE TO BE
  • 00:06:59.730 --> 00:07:01.665
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE
  • 00:07:02.733 --> 00:07:03.901
  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLEWHO HAVE HIJACKED PEACEFUL
  • 00:07:03.901 --> 00:07:04.401
  • WHO HAVE HIJACKED PEACEFULPROTESTS AND WHO HAVE
  • 00:07:04.401 --> 00:07:05.569
  • PROTESTS AND WHO HAVEHIJACKED WHAT WERE
  • 00:07:05.569 --> 00:07:07.905
  • HIJACKED WHAT WERELEGITIMATE GRIEVANCES THAT
  • 00:07:07.905 --> 00:07:08.405
  • LEGITIMATE GRIEVANCES THATCAN BE DEALT WITH IN A
  • 00:07:08.405 --> 00:07:09.507
  • CAN BE DEALT WITH IN ACERTAIN WAY.
  • 00:07:09.507 --> 00:07:10.341
  • CERTAIN WAY.THEY'VE HIJACKED THAT FOR
  • 00:07:10.341 --> 00:07:11.075
  • THEY'VE HIJACKED THAT FORTHEIR OWN ENDS.
  • 00:07:11.075 --> 00:07:12.243
  • THEIR OWN ENDS.NOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKIN'
  • 00:07:12.243 --> 00:07:12.943
  • NOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKIN'ABOUT WIPING OUT HISTORY,
  • 00:07:12.943 --> 00:07:14.178
  • ABOUT WIPING OUT HISTORY,YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT
  • 00:07:14.178 --> 00:07:16.313
  • YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THATTHAT IS ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:07:16.313 --> 00:07:18.148
  • THAT IS ONE OF THE MOSTEVIL THINGS ANYONE CAN
  • 00:07:18.148 --> 00:07:20.150
  • EVIL THINGS ANYONE CANHAVE DONE, AND WHEN WE
  • 00:07:20.150 --> 00:07:20.751
  • HAVE DONE, AND WHEN WELOOK AT HISTORY, TO SEE
  • 00:07:20.751 --> 00:07:22.052
  • LOOK AT HISTORY, TO SEEWHO HAS TORN DOWN HISTORY,
  • 00:07:22.052 --> 00:07:23.120
  • WHO HAS TORN DOWN HISTORY,WE THINK OF THE FRENCH
  • 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.823
  • WE THINK OF THE FRENCHREVOLUTION; WE CAN THINK
  • 00:07:25.823 --> 00:07:27.558
  • REVOLUTION; WE CAN THINKOF THE TALIBAN BLOWING UP
  • 00:07:27.558 --> 00:07:30.461
  • THERE'S A PARTICULAR KIND
  • 00:07:32.196 --> 00:07:32.730
  • THERE'S A PARTICULAR KINDOF EVIL THAT WANTS TO
  • 00:07:32.730 --> 00:07:34.131
  • OF EVIL THAT WANTS TODESTROY THE PAST SO THAT
  • 00:07:34.131 --> 00:07:36.333
  • DESTROY THE PAST SO THATIT CAN REMAKE THE PRESENT
  • 00:07:36.333 --> 00:07:38.536
  • IT CAN REMAKE THE PRESENTAND THE FUTURE IN ITS OWN
  • 00:07:38.536 --> 00:07:39.103
  • AND THE FUTURE IN ITS OWNWICKED IMAGE, AND I KNOW
  • 00:07:39.103 --> 00:07:40.538
  • THAT'S WHY YOU LOVE HISTORY.
  • 00:07:43.274 --> 00:07:44.808
  • THAT'S WHY YOU LOVE HISTORY.- DAVID: YEAH, AND ONE OF
  • 00:07:44.808 --> 00:07:47.011
  • - DAVID: YEAH, AND ONE OFTHE THINGS THAT WE POINT
  • 00:07:47.011 --> 00:07:47.578
  • THE THINGS THAT WE POINTOUT IS YOU TEACH THE GOOD,
  • 00:07:47.578 --> 00:07:48.612
  • YOU LEARN A LOT FROM THE
  • 00:07:49.713 --> 00:07:50.814
  • YOU LEARN A LOT FROM THEBAD AND THE UGLY OF HISTORY.
  • 00:07:50.814 --> 00:07:52.516
  • BAD AND THE UGLY OF HISTORY.I CAN POINT TO A STATUE OF
  • 00:07:52.516 --> 00:07:54.785
  • I CAN POINT TO A STATUE OFNATHAN BEDFORD FORREST,
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  • NATHAN BEDFORD FORREST,WHO WAS A CONFEDERATE
  • 00:07:55.386 --> 00:07:57.555
  • WHO WAS A CONFEDERATEGENERAL, AND I CAN TELL
  • 00:07:57.555 --> 00:07:58.289
  • GENERAL, AND I CAN TELLYOU THAT HE MAY BE THE
  • 00:07:58.289 --> 00:08:00.457
  • I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE DID
  • 00:08:01.492 --> 00:08:02.359
  • I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE DIDAT FORT PILLOW.
  • 00:08:02.359 --> 00:08:02.927
  • AT FORT PILLOW.I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE DID
  • 00:08:02.927 --> 00:08:05.996
  • I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HE DIDIN STARTIN' THE KU KLUX KLAN.
  • 00:08:05.996 --> 00:08:06.530
  • IN STARTIN' THE KU KLUX KLAN.AND AS LONG AS YOU LEAVE
  • 00:08:06.530 --> 00:08:07.531
  • AND AS LONG AS YOU LEAVETHAT STATUE THERE, I CAN
  • 00:08:07.531 --> 00:08:08.065
  • THAT STATUE THERE, I CANTELL YOU ABOUT ALL OF THE
  • 00:08:08.065 --> 00:08:08.999
  • TELL YOU ABOUT ALL OF THEWICKEDNESS THAT CAME FROM HIM.
  • 00:08:08.999 --> 00:08:11.302
  • WICKEDNESS THAT CAME FROM HIM.YOU TAKE THAT STATUE DOWN,
  • 00:08:11.302 --> 00:08:11.936
  • YOU TAKE THAT STATUE DOWN,IT'S NOT THE SAME AS BEIN'
  • 00:08:11.936 --> 00:08:12.703
  • IT'S NOT THE SAME AS BEIN'ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT
  • 00:08:12.703 --> 00:08:14.505
  • SO I'M STRUCK WITH THE
  • 00:08:16.407 --> 00:08:17.174
  • SO I'M STRUCK WITH THEFACT THAT, WHEN YOU LOOK
  • 00:08:17.174 --> 00:08:17.975
  • FACT THAT, WHEN YOU LOOKAT ISRAEL, NOT ONLY DO YOU
  • 00:08:17.975 --> 00:08:18.576
  • AT ISRAEL, NOT ONLY DO YOUHAVE ALL THESE STATUES OF
  • 00:08:18.576 --> 00:08:19.610
  • HAVE ALL THESE STATUES OFKING DAVID, YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:08:19.610 --> 00:08:21.378
  • ABSALOM-- ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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  • ABSALOM-- ARE YOU KIDDING ME?HE'S ONE OF THE WORST
  • 00:08:23.280 --> 00:08:24.415
  • HE'S ONE OF THE WORSTINSURRECTION GUYS-- YEAH,
  • 00:08:24.415 --> 00:08:25.015
  • INSURRECTION GUYS-- YEAH,BUT THAT HELPS THEM
  • 00:08:25.015 --> 00:08:26.250
  • BUT THAT HELPS THEMREMEMBER THE GOOD GUYS,
  • 00:08:26.250 --> 00:08:27.184
  • YOU LOOK IN GERMANY.
  • 00:08:28.819 --> 00:08:29.420
  • YOU LOOK IN GERMANY.GERMANY, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:08:29.420 --> 00:08:30.321
  • GERMANY, RIGHT NOW,DESPITE WHAT THEY DID WITH
  • 00:08:30.321 --> 00:08:33.157
  • DESPITE WHAT THEY DID WITHNAZIS, IS ONE OF THE MOST
  • 00:08:33.157 --> 00:08:34.124
  • NAZIS, IS ONE OF THE MOSTANTI-NEO-NAZI NATIONS IN
  • 00:08:34.124 --> 00:08:36.093
  • AND THEY STILL MAINTAIN
  • 00:08:37.628 --> 00:08:39.396
  • AND THEY STILL MAINTAINMUSEUMS ON NAZISM TO TEACH
  • 00:08:39.396 --> 00:08:40.798
  • MUSEUMS ON NAZISM TO TEACHTHE PEOPLE WHAT IT LOOKS
  • 00:08:40.798 --> 00:08:42.232
  • THE PEOPLE WHAT IT LOOKSLIKE AND WHAT TO AVOID AND
  • 00:08:42.232 --> 00:08:43.834
  • LIKE AND WHAT TO AVOID ANDWHAT NOT TO LET COME BACK.
  • 00:08:43.834 --> 00:08:46.036
  • WHAT NOT TO LET COME BACK.AND SO THE NOTION OF
  • 00:08:46.036 --> 00:08:46.604
  • AND SO THE NOTION OFDESTROYIN' ALL OF HISTORY,
  • 00:08:46.604 --> 00:08:47.605
  • DESTROYIN' ALL OF HISTORY,YOU LOSE LESSONS THAT GO
  • 00:08:47.605 --> 00:08:48.939
  • YOU LOSE LESSONS THAT GOWITH IT, AND THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:08:48.939 --> 00:08:50.240
  • WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHATREALLY CONCERNS ME IS I
  • 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:51.809
  • REALLY CONCERNS ME IS ICAN LEARN AS MUCH FROM THE
  • 00:08:51.809 --> 00:08:52.610
  • CAN LEARN AS MUCH FROM THEBAD AND THE UGLY AS I CAN
  • 00:08:52.610 --> 00:08:53.510
  • BAD AND THE UGLY AS I CANFROM THE GOOD.
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  • FROM THE GOOD.- ERIC: THAT'S TRUE
  • 00:08:54.578 --> 00:08:55.546
  • - ERIC: THAT'S TRUEALTHOUGH I THINK WE ALL
  • 00:08:55.546 --> 00:08:57.181
  • ALTHOUGH I THINK WE ALLWOULD AGREE THAT LINES CAN
  • 00:08:57.181 --> 00:08:58.816
  • WOULD AGREE THAT LINES CANBE DRAWN.
  • 00:08:58.816 --> 00:09:00.184
  • BE DRAWN.WE DON'T HAVE A STATUE TO
  • 00:09:00.184 --> 00:09:02.119
  • WE DON'T HAVE A STATUE TOADOLF HITLER.
  • 00:09:02.119 --> 00:09:03.988
  • ADOLF HITLER.PEOPLE WOULD DRAW THE
  • 00:09:03.988 --> 00:09:04.755
  • PEOPLE WOULD DRAW THELINE THERE.
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  • LINE THERE.BUT THERE ARE STATUES
  • 00:09:06.790 --> 00:09:07.825
  • IT'S COMPLICATED.
  • 00:09:09.293 --> 00:09:09.860
  • IT'S COMPLICATED.WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAK.
  • 00:09:09.860 --> 00:09:10.427
  • WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAK.WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK.
  • 00:09:10.427 --> 00:09:11.395
  • WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK.FOLKS, DON'T GO AWAY.
  • 00:09:11.395 --> 00:09:12.396
  • FOLKS, DON'T GO AWAY.I'M TALKING TO
  • 00:09:12.396 --> 00:09:12.896
  • I'M TALKING TODAVID BARTON.
  • 00:09:12.896 --> 00:09:15.006
  • - ERIC: HEY, FOLKS, I'M
  • 00:09:18.975 --> 00:09:20.210
  • - ERIC: HEY, FOLKS, I'MTALKING TO DAVID BARTON OF
  • 00:09:20.210 --> 00:09:21.411
  • TALKING TO DAVID BARTON OFWALLBUILDERS.
  • 00:09:21.411 --> 00:09:22.779
  • WALLBUILDERS.YOU CAN GO TO
  • 00:09:22.779 --> 00:09:25.315
  • YOU CAN GO TOWALLBUILDERS.COM, AND FIND
  • 00:09:25.315 --> 00:09:26.049
  • WALLBUILDERS.COM, AND FINDOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS
  • 00:09:26.049 --> 00:09:27.283
  • TWO THINGS I WANNA COVER
  • 00:09:28.985 --> 00:09:30.553
  • FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA TALK
  • 00:09:32.255 --> 00:09:33.823
  • FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA TALKABOUT THE ROLE OF FAITH IN
  • 00:09:33.823 --> 00:09:35.358
  • ABOUT THE ROLE OF FAITH INAMERICAN HISTORY.
  • 00:09:35.358 --> 00:09:36.493
  • AMERICAN HISTORY.ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED,
  • 00:09:36.493 --> 00:09:40.563
  • ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED,IN PART, BECAUSE OF YOU,
  • 00:09:40.563 --> 00:09:41.097
  • IN PART, BECAUSE OF YOU,IS THE INEXTRICABLE BOND
  • 00:09:41.097 --> 00:09:45.101
  • IS THE INEXTRICABLE BONDBETWEEN LIBERTY AND FAITH,
  • 00:09:45.101 --> 00:09:46.936
  • BIBLICAL FAITH IN AMERICA,
  • 00:09:49.339 --> 00:09:50.206
  • BIBLICAL FAITH IN AMERICA,HOW WE CANNOT HAVE THE
  • 00:09:50.206 --> 00:09:51.408
  • HOW WE CANNOT HAVE THEFREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE,
  • 00:09:51.408 --> 00:09:52.742
  • FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE,HOW WE CANNOT CARE ABOUT
  • 00:09:52.742 --> 00:09:54.878
  • HOW WE CANNOT CARE ABOUTRACISM UNLESS WE
  • 00:09:54.878 --> 00:09:56.513
  • RACISM UNLESS WEUNDERSTAND WE GOT ALL
  • 00:09:56.513 --> 00:09:57.847
  • UNDERSTAND WE GOT ALLTHOSE GOOD IDEAS FROM
  • 00:09:57.847 --> 00:09:59.215
  • THAT'S INCONTROVERTIBLE
  • 00:10:00.483 --> 00:10:01.718
  • THAT'S INCONTROVERTIBLEBIBLICALLY.
  • 00:10:01.718 --> 00:10:02.686
  • BIBLICALLY.I WANNA TOUCH ON THAT.
  • 00:10:02.686 --> 00:10:03.620
  • I WANNA TOUCH ON THAT.AND THEN I ALSO WANNA
  • 00:10:03.620 --> 00:10:06.122
  • AND THEN I ALSO WANNATOUCH ON THE HISTORY OF
  • 00:10:06.122 --> 00:10:07.757
  • TOUCH ON THE HISTORY OFTHE END OF THE CIVIL WAR
  • 00:10:07.757 --> 00:10:09.159
  • THE END OF THE CIVIL WARAND THE GRACIOUSNESS THAT
  • 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.728
  • AND THE GRACIOUSNESS THATLINCOLN AND GRANT SHOWED
  • 00:10:11.728 --> 00:10:14.264
  • LINCOLN AND GRANT SHOWEDTO THEIR DEFEATED ENEMIES
  • 00:10:14.264 --> 00:10:15.498
  • TO THEIR DEFEATED ENEMIESIN THE CONFEDERACY.
  • 00:10:15.498 --> 00:10:16.533
  • IN THE CONFEDERACY.SO LET'S START WITH THE
  • 00:10:16.533 --> 00:10:18.134
  • SO LET'S START WITH THEFIRST ONE AND LAY THE BASE
  • 00:10:18.134 --> 00:10:19.736
  • FIRST ONE AND LAY THE BASESO FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT
  • 00:10:19.736 --> 00:10:22.205
  • - DAVID: YEAH, WHEN YOU
  • 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:24.441
  • - DAVID: YEAH, WHEN YOUGO BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF
  • 00:10:24.441 --> 00:10:25.141
  • GO BACK TO THE FOUNDING OFAMERICA, ACTUALLY, YOU
  • 00:10:25.141 --> 00:10:25.942
  • AMERICA, ACTUALLY, YOUHAVE TWO MODELS.
  • 00:10:25.942 --> 00:10:27.510
  • HAVE TWO MODELS.THERE WAS REALLY A VERY
  • 00:10:27.510 --> 00:10:28.945
  • THERE WAS REALLY A VERYINTERESTING WALL MAP THAT
  • 00:10:28.945 --> 00:10:31.314
  • SHOWING THE TWO STRANDS OF
  • 00:10:33.183 --> 00:10:33.950
  • SHOWING THE TWO STRANDS OFTHOUGHT IN AMERICA, ONE
  • 00:10:33.950 --> 00:10:35.118
  • THOUGHT IN AMERICA, ONEBAD, ONE GOOD, AND IT
  • 00:10:35.118 --> 00:10:36.786
  • BAD, ONE GOOD, AND ITSHOWS THAT OUT OF
  • 00:10:36.786 --> 00:10:37.821
  • SHOWS THAT OUT OFJAMESTOWN CAME SLAVERY AND
  • 00:10:37.821 --> 00:10:40.957
  • JAMESTOWN CAME SLAVERY ANDINTOLERANCE AND CLASSISM
  • 00:10:40.957 --> 00:10:43.693
  • INTOLERANCE AND CLASSISMAND RACISM, AND OUT OF
  • 00:10:43.693 --> 00:10:44.260
  • AND RACISM, AND OUT OFPLYMOUTH CAME LIBERTY AND
  • 00:10:44.260 --> 00:10:45.562
  • PLYMOUTH CAME LIBERTY ANDFREEDOM AND CONSTITUTIONAL
  • 00:10:45.562 --> 00:10:47.430
  • FREEDOM AND CONSTITUTIONALGOVERNMENT,
  • 00:10:47.430 --> 00:10:48.665
  • GOVERNMENT,BILLS OF RIGHTS, ET CETERA,
  • 00:10:48.665 --> 00:10:49.599
  • BILLS OF RIGHTS, ET CETERA,AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS BOTH OF
  • 00:10:49.599 --> 00:10:51.701
  • BUT JAMESTOWN
  • 00:10:52.635 --> 00:10:53.470
  • BUT JAMESTOWNWAS NOT BIBLICAL.
  • 00:10:53.470 --> 00:10:53.903
  • WAS NOT BIBLICAL.THEY PROFESSED
  • 00:10:53.903 --> 00:10:54.904
  • THEY PROFESSEDCHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:10:54.904 --> 00:10:56.172
  • CHRISTIANITY.THAT'S MUCH OF WHAT WE SEE
  • 00:10:56.172 --> 00:10:56.673
  • THAT'S MUCH OF WHAT WE SEEIN AMERICA TODAY.
  • 00:10:56.673 --> 00:10:58.141
  • IN AMERICA TODAY.SEVENTY-TWO PERCENT OF THE
  • 00:10:58.141 --> 00:10:59.976
  • SEVENTY-TWO PERCENT OF THENATION PROFESSES CHRISTIANITY.
  • 00:10:59.976 --> 00:11:01.578
  • NATION PROFESSES CHRISTIANITY.ONLY 6% HAVE A BIBLICAL
  • 00:11:01.578 --> 00:11:02.746
  • ONLY 6% HAVE A BIBLICALWORLDVIEW.
  • 00:11:02.746 --> 00:11:03.680
  • WORLDVIEW.IN OTHER WORDS, THEY LOOK
  • 00:11:03.680 --> 00:11:04.781
  • IN OTHER WORDS, THEY LOOKAT THE WORLD THROUGH WHAT
  • 00:11:04.781 --> 00:11:06.015
  • AT THE WORLD THROUGH WHATTHE BIBLE SAYS, WHICH IS
  • 00:11:06.015 --> 00:11:07.650
  • THE BIBLE SAYS, WHICH ISWHY, IN MANY CATEGORIES,
  • 00:11:07.650 --> 00:11:08.752
  • WHY, IN MANY CATEGORIES,YOU CANNOT TELL THE
  • 00:11:08.752 --> 00:11:09.686
  • YOU CANNOT TELL THEDIFFERENCE BETWEEN
  • 00:11:09.686 --> 00:11:10.320
  • DIFFERENCE BETWEENCHRISTIANS AND
  • 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:10.987
  • CHRISTIANS ANDNON-CHRISTIANS IN BEHAVIOR.
  • 00:11:10.987 --> 00:11:12.822
  • THEY CAME WITH A CHRISTIAN
  • 00:11:14.257 --> 00:11:14.924
  • THEY CAME WITH A CHRISTIANPROFESSION.
  • 00:11:14.924 --> 00:11:16.392
  • PROFESSION.THEY HAD MINISTERS;
  • 00:11:16.392 --> 00:11:17.060
  • THEY HAD MINISTERS;THEY SAID ALL THE RIGHT
  • 00:11:17.060 --> 00:11:18.361
  • THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE BIBLE.
  • 00:11:19.662 --> 00:11:21.131
  • THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE BIBLE.SO SLAVERY GETS STARTED
  • 00:11:21.131 --> 00:11:21.731
  • SO SLAVERY GETS STARTEDTHERE, WE'RE TOLD, IN 1619.
  • 00:11:21.731 --> 00:11:23.032
  • THERE, WE'RE TOLD, IN 1619.THAT'S THE 1619 PROJECT.
  • 00:11:23.032 --> 00:11:25.268
  • THAT'S THE 1619 PROJECT.BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
  • 00:11:25.268 --> 00:11:27.103
  • BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEPILGRIMS IN 1620,
  • 00:11:27.103 --> 00:11:28.772
  • PILGRIMS IN 1620,IT'S INTERESTING: THE SECOND
  • 00:11:28.772 --> 00:11:29.806
  • IT'S INTERESTING: THE SECONDLOAD OF SLAVES ARRIVED TO
  • 00:11:29.806 --> 00:11:31.007
  • LOAD OF SLAVES ARRIVED TOTHE PILGRIMS,
  • 00:11:31.007 --> 00:11:32.408
  • THE PILGRIMS,AND THEY QUOTED EXODUS ABOUT
  • 00:11:32.408 --> 00:11:34.444
  • AND THEY QUOTED EXODUS ABOUTMAN-STEALING,
  • 00:11:34.444 --> 00:11:36.279
  • MAN-STEALING,AND THEY FREED ALL THE SLAVES
  • 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.148
  • AND THEY FREED ALL THE SLAVESAND IMPRISONED THE SLAVE OWNERS.
  • 00:11:38.148 --> 00:11:38.615
  • AND IMPRISONED THE SLAVE OWNERS.- ERIC: WAS THAT THE
  • 00:11:38.615 --> 00:11:40.116
  • WHAT WAS THAT SHIP?
  • 00:11:41.951 --> 00:11:42.385
  • WHAT WAS THAT SHIP?- DAVID: NO, THE
  • 00:11:42.385 --> 00:11:42.952
  • - DAVID: NO, THE"SPEEDWELL" WAS ONE OF THE
  • 00:11:42.952 --> 00:11:43.653
  • "SPEEDWELL" WAS ONE OF THESHIPS--
  • 00:11:43.653 --> 00:11:44.287
  • SHIPS--IT WAS DESTINED TO COME OVER--
  • 00:11:44.287 --> 00:11:45.622
  • IT WAS A SHIP THAT ARRIVED
  • 00:11:47.924 --> 00:11:49.392
  • IT WAS A SHIP THAT ARRIVEDIN 1643, SO SLAVERY DIDN'T
  • 00:11:49.392 --> 00:11:51.761
  • IN 1643, SO SLAVERY DIDN'TGET AN EARLY START IN AMERICA.
  • 00:11:51.761 --> 00:11:53.229
  • GET AN EARLY START IN AMERICA.IT CAME 1643-- 1619 TO
  • 00:11:53.229 --> 00:11:53.530
  • IT CAME 1643-- 1619 TOJAMESTOWN,
  • 00:11:53.530 --> 00:11:56.666
  • JAMESTOWN,AND THEN 1643 TO PLYMOUTH.
  • 00:11:56.666 --> 00:11:58.268
  • AND THEN 1643 TO PLYMOUTH.AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT
  • 00:11:58.268 --> 00:12:00.537
  • AND IT'S INTERESTING THATHISTORICAL RECORDS MAKE
  • 00:12:00.537 --> 00:12:01.304
  • HISTORICAL RECORDS MAKECLEAR THERE WAS NOT A TIME
  • 00:12:01.304 --> 00:12:02.605
  • CLEAR THERE WAS NOT A TIMEIN MASSACHUSETTS HISTORY
  • 00:12:02.605 --> 00:12:04.674
  • MATTER OF FACT, YOU FIND
  • 00:12:06.209 --> 00:12:06.743
  • MATTER OF FACT, YOU FINDBLACKS BEING ELECTED TO
  • 00:12:06.743 --> 00:12:08.812
  • BLACKS BEING ELECTED TOOFFICE, BACK IN 1768
  • 00:12:08.812 --> 00:12:10.747
  • OFFICE, BACK IN 1768IN NEW HAMPSHIRE;
  • 00:12:10.747 --> 00:12:13.049
  • IN NEW HAMPSHIRE;1793 IN PENNSYLVANIA.
  • 00:12:13.049 --> 00:12:14.450
  • 1793 IN PENNSYLVANIA.BLACKS WERE ELECTED TO
  • 00:12:14.450 --> 00:12:15.318
  • BLACKS WERE ELECTED TOOFFICE IN THE BIBLICAL
  • 00:12:15.318 --> 00:12:16.653
  • AND THE OTHER PORTION OF
  • 00:12:18.454 --> 00:12:18.955
  • AND THE OTHER PORTION OFTHE COUNTRY, YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:12:18.955 --> 00:12:19.856
  • THE COUNTRY, YOU'VE GOTTHIS RACISM AND THIS
  • 00:12:19.856 --> 00:12:20.190
  • THIS RACISM AND THISDISTINCTION,
  • 00:12:20.190 --> 00:12:21.191
  • DISTINCTION,"YOU'RE BLACK; WE'RE WHITE.
  • 00:12:21.191 --> 00:12:21.925
  • "YOU'RE BLACK; WE'RE WHITE.YOU'RE INFERIOR;
  • 00:12:21.925 --> 00:12:23.159
  • YOU'RE INFERIOR;WE'RE SUPERIOR."
  • 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.329
  • WE'RE SUPERIOR."THAT'S THE MODEL.
  • 00:12:26.329 --> 00:12:27.063
  • THAT'S THE MODEL.THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY
  • 00:12:27.063 --> 00:12:28.865
  • THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAYIS WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE
  • 00:12:28.865 --> 00:12:30.567
  • WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
  • 00:12:33.203 --> 00:12:34.270
  • WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEOTHER STUFF THAT HAPPENED
  • 00:12:34.270 --> 00:12:34.838
  • OTHER STUFF THAT HAPPENEDWHICH IS-- AND THIS, BY
  • 00:12:34.838 --> 00:12:35.705
  • WHICH IS-- AND THIS, BYTHE WAY, IS THE BASE OF
  • 00:12:35.705 --> 00:12:36.940
  • THE WAY, IS THE BASE OFTHE CIVIL WAR.
  • 00:12:36.940 --> 00:12:38.341
  • THE CIVIL WAR.YOU HAVE A MENTALITY IN THE
  • 00:12:38.341 --> 00:12:38.908
  • YOU HAVE A MENTALITY IN THENORTH THAT SAYS "EQUALITY--
  • 00:12:38.908 --> 00:12:41.578
  • DID YOU KNOW, IN 1793,
  • 00:12:44.280 --> 00:12:46.749
  • DID YOU KNOW, IN 1793,JOHN HANCOCK HAD AN EQUALITY
  • 00:12:46.749 --> 00:12:47.951
  • JOHN HANCOCK HAD AN EQUALITYBALL IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT
  • 00:12:47.951 --> 00:12:48.918
  • BALL IN MASSACHUSETTS THATHONORED BLACKS ACROSS
  • 00:12:48.918 --> 00:12:51.154
  • AN EQUALITY BALL BY THE
  • 00:12:52.355 --> 00:12:52.956
  • AN EQUALITY BALL BY THEFOUNDING FATHERS IN 1793,
  • 00:12:52.956 --> 00:12:54.490
  • FOUNDING FATHERS IN 1793,HONORING BLACKS?
  • 00:12:54.490 --> 00:12:56.259
  • HONORING BLACKS?ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:12:56.259 --> 00:12:56.993
  • ABSOLUTELY.THAT'S THE PARTS OF
  • 00:12:56.993 --> 00:12:58.795
  • THAT'S THE PARTS OFHISTORY WE'RE NOT GOING TO
  • 00:12:58.795 --> 00:12:59.329
  • HISTORY WE'RE NOT GOING TOHEAR TODAY, WHICH IS WHY
  • 00:12:59.329 --> 00:13:00.530
  • HEAR TODAY, WHICH IS WHYIT'S AMAZING TO SEE ALL
  • 00:13:00.530 --> 00:13:01.197
  • IT'S AMAZING TO SEE ALLTHE STATUES OF FOUNDING
  • 00:13:01.197 --> 00:13:02.866
  • THE STATUES OF FOUNDINGFATHERS BEING TORN DOWN
  • 00:13:02.866 --> 00:13:04.634
  • FATHERS BEING TORN DOWNWHEN SO MANY OF THEM WERE
  • 00:13:04.634 --> 00:13:06.069
  • WHEN SO MANY OF THEM WEREANTI-SLAVERY, EQUALITY GUYS.
  • 00:13:06.069 --> 00:13:08.771
  • ANTI-SLAVERY, EQUALITY GUYS.- ERIC: IT'S A STUNNING
  • 00:13:08.771 --> 00:13:09.906
  • - ERIC: IT'S A STUNNINGTHING, AND IT'S JUST GOOD
  • 00:13:09.906 --> 00:13:11.007
  • THING, AND IT'S JUST GOODTO HAVE YOU ON TO CLARIFY
  • 00:13:11.007 --> 00:13:11.808
  • TO HAVE YOU ON TO CLARIFYSOME OF THIS FOR US.
  • 00:13:11.808 --> 00:13:13.476
  • SOME OF THIS FOR US.NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT A
  • 00:13:13.476 --> 00:13:14.944
  • NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT ANUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:13:14.944 --> 00:13:15.778
  • NUMBER OF THE THINGS THATYOU HAVE MENTIONED, NO ONE
  • 00:13:15.778 --> 00:13:18.681
  • YOU HAVE MENTIONED, NO ONEANYWHERE ON ANY STATION,
  • 00:13:18.681 --> 00:13:19.249
  • ANYWHERE ON ANY STATION,AND SO THIS IS HUGELY
  • 00:13:19.249 --> 00:13:21.184
  • AND SO THIS IS HUGELYIMPORTANT.
  • 00:13:21.184 --> 00:13:22.585
  • IMPORTANT.FOR FOLKS LISTENING, WHO
  • 00:13:22.585 --> 00:13:24.454
  • FOR FOLKS LISTENING, WHOWANNA FIND OUT MORE, I'M
  • 00:13:24.454 --> 00:13:25.788
  • WANNA FIND OUT MORE, I'MASSUMING WALLBUILDERS IS
  • 00:13:25.788 --> 00:13:27.490
  • ASSUMING WALLBUILDERS ISTHE PLACE, OR IS THERE A
  • 00:13:27.490 --> 00:13:29.325
  • - DAVID: NOW,
  • 00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:32.195
  • - DAVID: NOW,WALLBUILDERS IS THE PLACE.
  • 00:13:32.195 --> 00:13:33.663
  • WALLBUILDERS IS THE PLACE.WE HAVE ALL OF THIS ON THE
  • 00:13:33.663 --> 00:13:35.164
  • WE HAVE ALL OF THIS ON THEWEBSITE.
  • 00:13:35.164 --> 00:13:35.899
  • WEBSITE.WE ACTUALLY--IN ABOUT TWO
  • 00:13:35.899 --> 00:13:36.866
  • WE ACTUALLY--IN ABOUT TWOWEEKS, WE'LL HAVE A BOOK
  • 00:13:36.866 --> 00:13:37.533
  • WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE A BOOKOUT, CALLED "THE AMERICAN
  • 00:13:37.533 --> 00:13:39.068
  • OUT, CALLED "THE AMERICANSTORY," THAT LOOKS AT
  • 00:13:39.068 --> 00:13:40.236
  • STORY," THAT LOOKS ATAMERICA FROM THE LENS OF
  • 00:13:40.236 --> 00:13:41.704
  • AMERICA FROM THE LENS OFWHAT'S BEING TAUGHT TODAY.
  • 00:13:41.704 --> 00:13:42.472
  • WHAT'S BEING TAUGHT TODAY.AND SO IT LOOKS AT THE
  • 00:13:42.472 --> 00:13:43.873
  • AND SO IT LOOKS AT THERACISM THEME.
  • 00:13:43.873 --> 00:13:44.440
  • RACISM THEME.IT LOOKS AT THE INEQUALITY
  • 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.075
  • IT LOOKS AT THOSE THEMES,
  • 00:13:47.510 --> 00:13:48.711
  • IT LOOKS AT THOSE THEMES,AND WHILE SOME OF THAT DID
  • 00:13:48.711 --> 00:13:49.245
  • AND WHILE SOME OF THAT DIDHAPPEN, IT'S THE REST OF
  • 00:13:49.245 --> 00:13:51.214
  • HAPPEN, IT'S THE REST OFTHE STORY THAT IS SO
  • 00:13:51.214 --> 00:13:52.015
  • THE STORY THAT IS SOSIGNIFICANT THAT AMERICANS
  • 00:13:52.015 --> 00:13:53.149
  • SIGNIFICANT THAT AMERICANSDON'T GET TODAY.
  • 00:13:53.149 --> 00:13:53.750
  • DON'T GET TODAY.SO THAT BOOK WILL BE OUT
  • 00:13:53.750 --> 00:13:54.584
  • SO THAT BOOK WILL BE OUTIN TWO WEEKS, CALLED
  • 00:13:54.584 --> 00:13:56.386
  • - ERIC: I WANNA GET YOU BACK
  • 00:13:57.587 --> 00:13:58.354
  • - ERIC: I WANNA GET YOU BACKON THIS PROGRAM,
  • 00:13:58.354 --> 00:13:58.955
  • ON THIS PROGRAM,DAVID, IF POSSIBLE,
  • 00:13:58.955 --> 00:14:00.189
  • DAVID, IF POSSIBLE,WHEN THAT BOOK COMES OUT,
  • 00:14:00.189 --> 00:14:02.458
  • WHEN THAT BOOK COMES OUT,BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING
  • 00:14:02.458 --> 00:14:03.993
  • BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHINGMORE IMPORTANT GENERALLY,
  • 00:14:03.993 --> 00:14:05.728
  • MORE IMPORTANT GENERALLY,AND CERTAINLY TODAY,
  • 00:14:05.728 --> 00:14:06.963
  • AND CERTAINLY TODAY,THAN UNDERSTANDING
  • 00:14:06.963 --> 00:14:07.864
  • THAN UNDERSTANDINGOUR HISTORY.
  • 00:14:07.864 --> 00:14:09.132
  • OUR HISTORY.YOU KNOW THAT I CAME TO
  • 00:14:09.132 --> 00:14:10.433
  • YOU KNOW THAT I CAME TOTHIS GAME A LITTLE BIT LATE.
  • 00:14:10.433 --> 00:14:11.034
  • THIS GAME A LITTLE BIT LATE.I NEVER THOUGHT I'D WRITE
  • 00:14:11.034 --> 00:14:11.834
  • I NEVER THOUGHT I'D WRITEBIOGRAPHIES.
  • 00:14:11.834 --> 00:14:12.969
  • BIOGRAPHIES.I DISCOVERED SOME OF THE
  • 00:14:12.969 --> 00:14:14.804
  • I DISCOVERED SOME OF THESAME THINGS THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:14:14.804 --> 00:14:15.805
  • SAME THINGS THAT YOU'RETALKING ABOUT IN THE
  • 00:14:15.805 --> 00:14:17.340
  • TALKING ABOUT IN THECOURSE OF WRITING MY BOOKS.
  • 00:14:17.340 --> 00:14:18.608
  • COURSE OF WRITING MY BOOKS.WHEN I WROTE ABOUT
  • 00:14:18.608 --> 00:14:19.609
  • WHEN I WROTE ABOUTWILBERFORCE, I THOUGHT TO
  • 00:14:19.609 --> 00:14:21.244
  • WILBERFORCE, I THOUGHT TOMYSELF, "THIS IS AMAZING."
  • 00:14:21.244 --> 00:14:22.679
  • MYSELF, "THIS IS AMAZING."IN THE 18TH CENTURY, IN
  • 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:23.980
  • IN THE 18TH CENTURY, INENGLAND, EVERYBODY SAYS
  • 00:14:23.980 --> 00:14:25.214
  • ENGLAND, EVERYBODY SAYSTHEY'RE A CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:14:25.214 --> 00:14:26.649
  • THEY'RE A CHRISTIAN.ALL THAT MEANT WAS "I'M
  • 00:14:26.649 --> 00:14:27.483
  • ALL THAT MEANT WAS "I'MNOT A JEW, I'M NOT A
  • 00:14:27.483 --> 00:14:28.885
  • NOT A JEW, I'M NOT AMOHAMMEDAN, I'M NOT A
  • 00:14:28.885 --> 00:14:30.453
  • MOHAMMEDAN, I'M NOT AFREE-THINKING ATHEIST, SO
  • 00:14:30.453 --> 00:14:31.988
  • FREE-THINKING ATHEIST, SOI GUESS I'M A CHRISTIAN."
  • 00:14:31.988 --> 00:14:33.122
  • I GUESS I'M A CHRISTIAN."AND THEY HAD A COMPLETELY
  • 00:14:33.122 --> 00:14:35.124
  • AND THEY HAD A COMPLETELYANTI-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW
  • 00:14:35.124 --> 00:14:37.393
  • ANTI-CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEWWITH REGARD TO SLAVERY,
  • 00:14:37.393 --> 00:14:38.261
  • WITH REGARD TO SLAVERY,AND SO ON, AND SO FORTH,
  • 00:14:38.261 --> 00:14:39.495
  • AND SO ON, AND SO FORTH,AND IT TOOK THE
  • 00:14:39.495 --> 00:14:41.564
  • IT TOOK THE METHODISTS,
  • 00:14:43.232 --> 00:14:44.067
  • IT TOOK THE METHODISTS,THE "ENTHUSIASTS,"
  • 00:14:44.067 --> 00:14:45.468
  • THE "ENTHUSIASTS,"AS THEY WERE SCORNED
  • 00:14:45.468 --> 00:14:46.069
  • AS THEY WERE SCORNEDIN THOSE DAYS, TO SAY, "NO."
  • 00:14:46.069 --> 00:14:47.937
  • IN THOSE DAYS, TO SAY, "NO.""IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT
  • 00:14:47.937 --> 00:14:48.504
  • "IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW WHATTHE BIBLE SAYS," AND THE
  • 00:14:48.504 --> 00:14:49.539
  • THE BIBLE SAYS," AND THEQUAKERS, OF COURSE, AS
  • 00:14:49.539 --> 00:14:50.740
  • QUAKERS, OF COURSE, ASWELL, THEY SAID,
  • 00:14:50.740 --> 00:14:51.908
  • WELL, THEY SAID,"YOU'VE GOT TO ABOLISH
  • 00:14:51.908 --> 00:14:52.775
  • "YOU'VE GOT TO ABOLISHTHE SLAVE TRADE.
  • 00:14:52.775 --> 00:14:53.776
  • THE SLAVE TRADE.YOU'VE GOTTA ABOLISH SLAVERY."
  • 00:14:53.776 --> 00:14:54.744
  • YOU'VE GOTTA ABOLISH SLAVERY."- DAVID: YEAH,
  • 00:14:54.744 --> 00:14:55.445
  • - DAVID: YEAH,THAT'S ONE OF THE
  • 00:14:55.445 --> 00:14:56.713
  • THAT'S ONE OF THESIGNIFICANT THINGS IN
  • 00:14:56.713 --> 00:14:57.246
  • SIGNIFICANT THINGS INAMERICA IS, WE LOOK AT
  • 00:14:57.246 --> 00:14:59.482
  • AMERICA IS, WE LOOK ATPAST GENERATIONS THROUGH
  • 00:14:59.482 --> 00:15:02.585
  • PAST GENERATIONS THROUGHTODAY'S FILTER AND TODAY'S LENS,
  • 00:15:02.585 --> 00:15:03.219
  • TODAY'S FILTER AND TODAY'S LENS,AND YOU REALLY CAN'T DO THAT.
  • 00:15:03.219 --> 00:15:05.421
  • THAT BACK IN GENESIS 9,
  • 00:15:07.256 --> 00:15:08.758
  • THAT BACK IN GENESIS 9,WHEN YOU SEE ABOUT NOAH,
  • 00:15:08.758 --> 00:15:09.792
  • WHEN YOU SEE ABOUT NOAH,AND GOD CHOSE NOAH, AND
  • 00:15:09.792 --> 00:15:11.127
  • AND GOD CHOSE NOAH, ANDTHE BIBLE IN GENESIS 9:6,
  • 00:15:11.127 --> 00:15:12.962
  • THE BIBLE IN GENESIS 9:6,SAYS THAT "NOAH WAS A
  • 00:15:12.962 --> 00:15:14.864
  • AND THEN IT SAYS,
  • 00:15:16.666 --> 00:15:18.267
  • AND THEN IT SAYS,"IN HIS GENERATION."
  • 00:15:18.267 --> 00:15:18.868
  • "IN HIS GENERATION."WE KNOW THAT NOAH HAD TROUBLE
  • 00:15:18.868 --> 00:15:20.336
  • WE KNOW THAT NOAH HAD TROUBLEWITH DRUNKENNESS AND OTHER
  • 00:15:20.336 --> 00:15:21.671
  • WITH DRUNKENNESS AND OTHERTHINGS AS WELL, BUT WHEN
  • 00:15:21.671 --> 00:15:23.039
  • THINGS AS WELL, BUT WHENYOU COMPARE HIM TO WHERE
  • 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:24.674
  • YOU COMPARE HIM TO WHEREHE WAS IN HIS DAY, HE WAS
  • 00:15:24.674 --> 00:15:27.276
  • HAPPENING IS WE'RE
  • 00:15:29.612 --> 00:15:31.014
  • HAPPENING IS WE'RECOMPARING OUR STANDARDS OF
  • 00:15:31.014 --> 00:15:32.415
  • COMPARING OUR STANDARDS OFTHE DAY AND TRYING TO
  • 00:15:32.415 --> 00:15:33.116
  • THE DAY AND TRYING TOIMPOSE THEM BACK.
  • 00:15:33.116 --> 00:15:34.183
  • IMPOSE THEM BACK.AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHY
  • 00:15:34.183 --> 00:15:35.151
  • AND LET ME EXPLAIN WHYTHAT MATTERS 'CAUSE YOU
  • 00:15:35.151 --> 00:15:37.453
  • WE HAVE 5.500 YEARS OF
  • 00:15:39.689 --> 00:15:41.491
  • WE HAVE 5.500 YEARS OFRECORDED HISTORY AT THE
  • 00:15:41.491 --> 00:15:43.626
  • RECORDED HISTORY AT THETIME OF WILBERFORCE.
  • 00:15:43.626 --> 00:15:44.560
  • TIME OF WILBERFORCE.ENGLAND IS THE FIRST
  • 00:15:44.560 --> 00:15:45.628
  • ENGLAND IS THE FIRSTNATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE
  • 00:15:45.628 --> 00:15:47.463
  • NATION IN THE HISTORY OF THEWORLD TO ABOLISH SLAVERY,
  • 00:15:47.463 --> 00:15:49.565
  • WORLD TO ABOLISH SLAVERY,AND WE'RE TALKING 1833.
  • 00:15:49.565 --> 00:15:51.267
  • AND WE'RE TALKING 1833.PEOPLE THINK ABOLITION AND
  • 00:15:51.267 --> 00:15:52.535
  • PEOPLE THINK ABOLITION ANDEQUALITY HAS BEEN THE
  • 00:15:52.535 --> 00:15:53.269
  • EQUALITY HAS BEEN THESTATE OF THE WORLD ALL THE
  • 00:15:53.269 --> 00:15:55.071
  • WE'RE TALKING RECENT
  • 00:15:56.406 --> 00:15:57.407
  • WE'RE TALKING RECENTAMERICA, 1865, WHEN WE
  • 00:15:57.407 --> 00:15:59.075
  • AMERICA, 1865, WHEN WEPASSED THE 13TH AMENDMENT.
  • 00:15:59.075 --> 00:16:00.410
  • PASSED THE 13TH AMENDMENT.1865, WE WERE THE FOURTH
  • 00:16:00.410 --> 00:16:03.012
  • 1865, WE WERE THE FOURTHNATION IN THE WORLD TO
  • 00:16:03.012 --> 00:16:04.213
  • SO ABOLITION IS A
  • 00:16:05.648 --> 00:16:06.682
  • SO ABOLITION IS ARELATIVELY NEW THING IN
  • 00:16:06.682 --> 00:16:08.718
  • RELATIVELY NEW THING INTHE WORLD, AND, BY THE
  • 00:16:08.718 --> 00:16:09.652
  • THE WORLD, AND, BY THEWAY, THERE ARE 94 NATIONS
  • 00:16:09.652 --> 00:16:12.922
  • WHERE SLAVERY IS STILL LEGAL.
  • 00:16:15.591 --> 00:16:16.926
  • WHERE SLAVERY IS STILL LEGAL.SO HALF THE WORLD STILL
  • 00:16:16.926 --> 00:16:18.027
  • SO HALF THE WORLD STILLHAS LEGAL SLAVERY, AND
  • 00:16:18.027 --> 00:16:18.895
  • HAS LEGAL SLAVERY, ANDWE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT
  • 00:16:18.895 --> 00:16:20.430
  • WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUTAMERICA AND HOW THAT WE
  • 00:16:20.430 --> 00:16:23.266
  • IT TOOK US THAT LONG TO
  • 00:16:24.434 --> 00:16:25.568
  • IT TOOK US THAT LONG TOABOLISH-- NO, NO, WE'RE
  • 00:16:25.568 --> 00:16:26.936
  • ABOLISH-- NO, NO, WE'REONE OF THE LEADING NATIONS
  • 00:16:26.936 --> 00:16:28.738
  • ONE OF THE LEADING NATIONSIN THE WORLD IN SHOOTING
  • 00:16:28.738 --> 00:16:29.906
  • IN THE WORLD IN SHOOTINGFOR EQUALITY.
  • 00:16:29.906 --> 00:16:30.973
  • FOR EQUALITY.WE WERE NOT LATE TO THE PARTY.
  • 00:16:30.973 --> 00:16:32.208
  • WE WERE NOT LATE TO THE PARTY.WE WERE EARLY TO THE
  • 00:16:32.208 --> 00:16:33.709
  • WE WERE EARLY TO THEPARTY, NUMBER FOUR IN THE
  • 00:16:33.709 --> 00:16:34.844
  • AND, BY THE WAY, WE WERE
  • 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:37.480
  • AND, BY THE WAY, WE WERENUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD IN
  • 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:38.281
  • NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD INPASSING A LAW TO ABOLISH
  • 00:16:38.281 --> 00:16:38.815
  • PASSING A LAW TO ABOLISHTHE SLAVE TRADE.
  • 00:16:38.815 --> 00:16:40.516
  • THE SLAVE TRADE.THAT'S 1807.
  • 00:16:40.516 --> 00:16:43.086
  • THAT'S 1807.SO ALL THE NOTION THAT
  • 00:16:43.086 --> 00:16:43.686
  • SO ALL THE NOTION THATAMERICA IS INSTITUTIONALLY
  • 00:16:43.686 --> 00:16:45.288
  • AMERICA IS INSTITUTIONALLYRACIST, YOU GOTTA SEE WHAT
  • 00:16:45.288 --> 00:16:46.422
  • RACIST, YOU GOTTA SEE WHATTHE ATMOSPHERE WAS LIKE IN
  • 00:16:46.422 --> 00:16:47.223
  • THE ATMOSPHERE WAS LIKE INTHAT DAY.
  • 00:16:47.223 --> 00:16:48.591
  • THAT DAY.WE WERE LEADING THE WORLD
  • 00:16:48.591 --> 00:16:49.992
  • WE WERE LEADING THE WORLDIN A RIGHT DIRECTION IN
  • 00:16:49.992 --> 00:16:50.493
  • IN A RIGHT DIRECTION INTHAT DAY.
  • 00:16:50.493 --> 00:16:52.028
  • THAT DAY.NOW WE CAN LOOK BACK FROM
  • 00:16:52.028 --> 00:16:52.795
  • NOW WE CAN LOOK BACK FROMWHERE WE ARE TODAY AND SAY
  • 00:16:52.795 --> 00:16:53.896
  • WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND SAYWE WEREN'T PERFECT.
  • 00:16:53.896 --> 00:16:54.564
  • WE WEREN'T PERFECT.NO, WE WEREN'T, BUT WE'RE
  • 00:16:54.564 --> 00:16:56.265
  • NO, WE WEREN'T, BUT WE'RENOT THE RACIST NATION
  • 00:16:56.265 --> 00:16:57.433
  • NOT THE RACIST NATIONEVERYONE IS TRYING TO MAKE
  • 00:16:57.433 --> 00:16:58.234
  • EVERYONE IS TRYING TO MAKEUS OUT TO BE.
  • 00:16:58.234 --> 00:16:59.469
  • US OUT TO BE.WHEN YOU KNOW HISTORY,
  • 00:16:59.469 --> 00:17:00.369
  • WHEN YOU KNOW HISTORY,YOU SEE THAT VERY CLEAR.
  • 00:17:00.369 --> 00:17:01.671
  • YOU SEE THAT VERY CLEAR.WE HAVE INCIDENTS OF
  • 00:17:01.671 --> 00:17:04.073
  • WE HAVE INCIDENTS OFRACISM, NO QUESTION,
  • 00:17:04.073 --> 00:17:04.841
  • RACISM, NO QUESTION,BUT THE WAY IT'S PORTRAYED
  • 00:17:04.841 --> 00:17:06.976
  • - ERIC: AND IT NEEDS TO
  • 00:17:09.011 --> 00:17:09.979
  • - ERIC: AND IT NEEDS TOBE SAID ALSO, DAVID, THAT,
  • 00:17:09.979 --> 00:17:10.480
  • BE SAID ALSO, DAVID, THAT,YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY
  • 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:11.314
  • YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODYSAYS, "HEY, WHAT'S WRONG
  • 00:17:11.314 --> 00:17:12.648
  • SAYS, "HEY, WHAT'S WRONGWITH RACISM?"
  • 00:17:12.648 --> 00:17:14.117
  • WITH RACISM?"YOU AND I HAVE AN ANSWER.
  • 00:17:14.117 --> 00:17:15.751
  • YOU AND I HAVE AN ANSWER.WE KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH
  • 00:17:15.751 --> 00:17:16.619
  • WE KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITHIT AND WHY IT'S WRONG.
  • 00:17:16.619 --> 00:17:17.920
  • IT AND WHY IT'S WRONG.WE POINT TO THE BIBLE.
  • 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:18.521
  • WE POINT TO THE BIBLE.WE POINT TO THE GOD OF THE
  • 00:17:18.521 --> 00:17:20.523
  • WE POINT TO THE GOD OF THEBIBLE, WHO SAYS,
  • 00:17:20.523 --> 00:17:21.824
  • BIBLE, WHO SAYS,"I'M NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS.
  • 00:17:21.824 --> 00:17:24.527
  • THAT IS NOT THE VIEW OF
  • 00:17:27.763 --> 00:17:29.332
  • THAT IS NOT THE VIEW OFPEOPLE THAT WE WOULD CALL
  • 00:17:29.332 --> 00:17:31.134
  • PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD CALLA BLIND DARWINISTS OR A
  • 00:17:31.134 --> 00:17:32.335
  • A BLIND DARWINISTS OR ASECULAR HUMANIST.
  • 00:17:32.335 --> 00:17:32.935
  • SECULAR HUMANIST.THEY MAY SAY THEY'RE
  • 00:17:32.935 --> 00:17:33.870
  • THEY MAY SAY THEY'REAGAINST RACISM, BUT THEY
  • 00:17:33.870 --> 00:17:36.639
  • WE CAN EXPLAIN WHY, AND IT
  • 00:17:38.741 --> 00:17:39.342
  • WE CAN EXPLAIN WHY, AND ITSHOULD BE NO SURPRISE TO
  • 00:17:39.342 --> 00:17:40.743
  • SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE TOFOLKS THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:17:40.743 --> 00:17:41.544
  • FOLKS THAT, IF YOU LOOK ATHISTORY, IT HAS BEEN THE
  • 00:17:41.544 --> 00:17:44.647
  • HISTORY, IT HAS BEEN THEOUTSPOKEN CHRISTIANS, THE
  • 00:17:44.647 --> 00:17:45.882
  • OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIANS, THEBIBLE-THUMPING CHRISTIANS,
  • 00:17:45.882 --> 00:17:47.416
  • BIBLE-THUMPING CHRISTIANS,WHO HAVE ALWAYS LED THE
  • 00:17:47.416 --> 00:17:49.952
  • WHO HAVE ALWAYS LED THEWAY TO ABOLISHING SLAVERY
  • 00:17:49.952 --> 00:17:52.054
  • WAY TO ABOLISHING SLAVERYAND TO LIFTING UP THOSE
  • 00:17:52.054 --> 00:17:54.657
  • - DAVID: YEAH, YOU WERE
  • 00:17:55.725 --> 00:17:56.859
  • - DAVID: YEAH, YOU WERETALKING ABOUT HOW THAT IT
  • 00:17:56.859 --> 00:17:58.161
  • TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT ITWAS CHRISTIANITY THAT
  • 00:17:58.161 --> 00:18:00.329
  • INTERESTINGLY, A NATIONAL
  • 00:18:01.664 --> 00:18:02.231
  • INTERESTINGLY, A NATIONALPOLL CAME OUT THIS WEEK,
  • 00:18:02.231 --> 00:18:03.166
  • POLL CAME OUT THIS WEEK,AND IT WAS QUITE SHOCKING
  • 00:18:03.166 --> 00:18:05.034
  • AND IT WAS QUITE SHOCKINGFOR THOSE WHO CONDUCTED IT.
  • 00:18:05.034 --> 00:18:05.701
  • FOR THOSE WHO CONDUCTED IT.THEY-- BASED ON BLACK
  • 00:18:05.701 --> 00:18:06.702
  • THEY-- BASED ON BLACKLIVES MATTER, THE QUESTION
  • 00:18:06.702 --> 00:18:07.670
  • LIVES MATTER, THE QUESTIONIS "DOES LIFE HAVE
  • 00:18:07.670 --> 00:18:08.838
  • IS "DOES LIFE HAVEINTRINSIC VALUE?
  • 00:18:08.838 --> 00:18:09.972
  • INTRINSIC VALUE?DO ALL LIVES MATTER?"
  • 00:18:09.972 --> 00:18:12.074
  • DO ALL LIVES MATTER?"ONLY ONE IN THREE
  • 00:18:12.074 --> 00:18:13.576
  • ONLY ONE IN THREEAMERICANS, ONLY 37% SAID
  • 00:18:13.576 --> 00:18:15.011
  • AMERICANS, ONLY 37% SAIDTHAT LIFE HAS INTRINSIC
  • 00:18:15.011 --> 00:18:16.145
  • THAT LIFE HAS INTRINSICVALUE.
  • 00:18:16.145 --> 00:18:18.314
  • VALUE.THOSE THAT WERE OF AN
  • 00:18:18.314 --> 00:18:19.348
  • THOSE THAT WERE OF ANEVOLUTIONARY VIEWPOINT
  • 00:18:19.348 --> 00:18:21.184
  • EVOLUTIONARY VIEWPOINTSAID, "NO, YOU WILL ATTAIN
  • 00:18:21.184 --> 00:18:22.485
  • SAID, "NO, YOU WILL ATTAINVALUE AT SOME POINT IN
  • 00:18:22.485 --> 00:18:23.619
  • VALUE AT SOME POINT INLIFE, BUT LIFE DOESN'T
  • 00:18:23.619 --> 00:18:24.320
  • LIFE, BUT LIFE DOESN'THAVE INTRINSIC VALUE."
  • 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:25.521
  • HAVE INTRINSIC VALUE."THERE WERE ALL SORTS
  • 00:18:25.521 --> 00:18:26.122
  • THERE WERE ALL SORTSOF ANSWERS.
  • 00:18:26.122 --> 00:18:27.690
  • OF ANSWERS.INTERESTING: FOR THOSE WHO
  • 00:18:27.690 --> 00:18:30.426
  • INTERESTING: FOR THOSE WHOHAD A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,
  • 00:18:30.426 --> 00:18:31.827
  • HAD A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,93% OF THAT GROUP SAID,
  • 00:18:31.827 --> 00:18:34.997
  • ALL LIFE HAS WORTH."
  • 00:18:36.699 --> 00:18:37.767
  • ALL LIFE HAS WORTH."TWO OUT OF THREE AMERICANS
  • 00:18:37.767 --> 00:18:38.401
  • TWO OUT OF THREE AMERICANSDID NOT BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:18:38.401 --> 00:18:38.768
  • DID NOT BELIEVE THATLIFE HAS WORTH.
  • 00:18:38.768 --> 00:18:39.902
  • LIFE HAS WORTH.SO, AGAIN, THAT GOES TO
  • 00:18:39.902 --> 00:18:41.571
  • SO, AGAIN, THAT GOES TOTHE POINT YOU MADE: IF YOU
  • 00:18:41.571 --> 00:18:42.505
  • THE POINT YOU MADE: IF YOUHAVE A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,
  • 00:18:42.505 --> 00:18:44.807
  • HAVE A BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW
  • 00:18:44.807 --> 00:18:45.975
  • YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEWOF LIFE AND EQUALITY.
  • 00:18:45.975 --> 00:18:47.143
  • OF LIFE AND EQUALITY.IF YOU HAVE A SECULAR
  • 00:18:47.143 --> 00:18:48.578
  • IF YOU HAVE A SECULARWORLDVIEW, YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:18:48.578 --> 00:18:49.478
  • WORLDVIEW, YOU DON'T HAVETHAT VIEW OF LIFE AND
  • 00:18:49.478 --> 00:18:51.113
  • - ERIC: WELL, OF COURSE,
  • 00:18:52.315 --> 00:18:52.682
  • - ERIC: WELL, OF COURSE,THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:52.682 --> 00:18:53.216
  • THAT'S RIGHT.IN MY "BONHOEFFER" BOOK,
  • 00:18:53.216 --> 00:18:54.717
  • IN MY "BONHOEFFER" BOOK,I DISCOVERED THAT THE NAZIS
  • 00:18:54.717 --> 00:18:56.452
  • I DISCOVERED THAT THE NAZISHAD EXACTLY THAT WORLDVIEW,
  • 00:18:56.452 --> 00:18:57.787
  • HAD EXACTLY THAT WORLDVIEW,WHICH YOU DESCRIBED,
  • 00:18:57.787 --> 00:19:00.556
  • WHICH YOU DESCRIBED,TWO OUT OF THREE AMERICANS
  • 00:19:00.556 --> 00:19:02.825
  • TWO OUT OF THREE AMERICANSAS HAVING THAT SAYS,
  • 00:19:02.825 --> 00:19:04.227
  • AS HAVING THAT SAYS,"LIFE IS NOT INTRINSICALLY
  • 00:19:04.227 --> 00:19:06.062
  • SOME LIFE IS MORE VALUABLE
  • 00:19:07.997 --> 00:19:09.332
  • SOME LIFE IS MORE VALUABLETHAN OTHER LIFE, AND SOME
  • 00:19:09.332 --> 00:19:11.734
  • THAN OTHER LIFE, AND SOMELIFE HAS NO VALUE."
  • 00:19:11.734 --> 00:19:13.769
  • LIFE HAS NO VALUE."THAT'S THE KIND OF
  • 00:19:13.769 --> 00:19:15.972
  • THAT'S THE KIND OFDECLARATION YOU CAN MAKE
  • 00:19:15.972 --> 00:19:17.907
  • DECLARATION YOU CAN MAKEONLY IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
  • 00:19:17.907 --> 00:19:19.342
  • ONLY IF YOU DON'T BELIEVEIN THE BIBLE.
  • 00:19:19.342 --> 00:19:21.477
  • IN THE BIBLE.AND SO THERE ARE MANY
  • 00:19:21.477 --> 00:19:22.712
  • "WELL, I'M A CHRISTIAN,"
  • 00:19:24.013 --> 00:19:24.847
  • "WELL, I'M A CHRISTIAN,"BUT IT'S A MEANINGLESS
  • 00:19:24.847 --> 00:19:26.215
  • BUT IT'S A MEANINGLESSSTATEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE
  • 00:19:26.215 --> 00:19:27.049
  • STATEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RESUPPORTING A WORLDVIEW
  • 00:19:27.049 --> 00:19:28.551
  • SUPPORTING A WORLDVIEWTHAT IS ABSOLUTELY
  • 00:19:28.551 --> 00:19:29.785
  • THAT IS ABSOLUTELYCONTRARY TO WHAT THE BIBLE
  • 00:19:29.785 --> 00:19:30.953
  • CONTRARY TO WHAT THE BIBLESAYS, WHICH IS THAT EVERY
  • 00:19:30.953 --> 00:19:34.724
  • IN A COMA, AT THE END OF
  • 00:19:36.592 --> 00:19:40.596
  • IN A COMA, AT THE END OFLIFE, EVERYONE IS MADE IN
  • 00:19:40.596 --> 00:19:42.198
  • LIFE, EVERYONE IS MADE INTHE IMAGE OF GOD AND,
  • 00:19:42.198 --> 00:19:44.066
  • THE IMAGE OF GOD AND,THEREFORE, HAS
  • 00:19:44.066 --> 00:19:45.868
  • THEREFORE, HASINESTIMABLE, INFINITE
  • 00:19:45.868 --> 00:19:48.070
  • INESTIMABLE, INFINITEVALUE; IS SACRED BECAUSE
  • 00:19:48.070 --> 00:19:48.638
  • VALUE; IS SACRED BECAUSEWE'RE CREATED IN THE IMAGE
  • 00:19:48.638 --> 00:19:49.472
  • I WANNA ASK YOU, IT SEEMS
  • 00:19:50.673 --> 00:19:52.408
  • I WANNA ASK YOU, IT SEEMSTO ME THAT LINCOLN WAS
  • 00:19:52.408 --> 00:19:53.876
  • TO ME THAT LINCOLN WASPARTICULARLY CHRISTIAN IN
  • 00:19:53.876 --> 00:19:54.844
  • PARTICULARLY CHRISTIAN INTHE WAY THAT HE DEALT WITH
  • 00:19:54.844 --> 00:19:56.879
  • THE WAY THAT HE DEALT WITHHIS DEFEATED ENEMY IN THE
  • 00:19:56.879 --> 00:19:58.581
  • WHEN HE GIVES HIS SECOND
  • 00:20:00.149 --> 00:20:01.284
  • WHEN HE GIVES HIS SECONDINAUGURAL, HE TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:20:01.284 --> 00:20:03.853
  • INAUGURAL, HE TALKS ABOUT"WITH MALICE TOWARD NONE."
  • 00:20:03.853 --> 00:20:05.888
  • "WITH MALICE TOWARD NONE."THERE WAS A GRACE AND A
  • 00:20:05.888 --> 00:20:07.523
  • THERE WAS A GRACE AND AGRANDEUR IN THE GRACE,
  • 00:20:07.523 --> 00:20:10.026
  • GRANDEUR IN THE GRACE,AND GRACIOUSNESS IN THE WAY
  • 00:20:10.026 --> 00:20:11.761
  • AND GRACIOUSNESS IN THE WAYTHAT HE DEALT WITH HIS
  • 00:20:11.761 --> 00:20:12.428
  • THAT HE DEALT WITH HISDEFEATED ENEMY IN THE
  • 00:20:12.428 --> 00:20:14.764
  • AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT
  • 00:20:16.032 --> 00:20:17.667
  • AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THATTHAT IS A PART OF THE
  • 00:20:17.667 --> 00:20:19.835
  • THAT IS A PART OF THEREASON THAT HE AND
  • 00:20:19.835 --> 00:20:21.437
  • REASON THAT HE ANDGRANT ALLOWED MANY OF
  • 00:20:21.437 --> 00:20:22.705
  • GRANT ALLOWED MANY OFTHESE CONFEDERATE
  • 00:20:22.705 --> 00:20:24.240
  • THESE CONFEDERATEMONUMENTS TO STAND BECAUSE
  • 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.041
  • MONUMENTS TO STAND BECAUSETHEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANNA
  • 00:20:25.041 --> 00:20:26.575
  • THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANNASHOVE THIS IN THEIR FACE.
  • 00:20:26.575 --> 00:20:27.310
  • SHOVE THIS IN THEIR FACE.WE DON'T WANT A SCORCHED
  • 00:20:27.310 --> 00:20:27.677
  • WE DON'T WANT A SCORCHEDEARTH POLICY.
  • 00:20:27.677 --> 00:20:28.811
  • EARTH POLICY.THIS IS NOT SHERMAN'S
  • 00:20:28.811 --> 00:20:30.479
  • THIS IS NOT SHERMAN'SMARCH TO THE SEA.
  • 00:20:30.479 --> 00:20:31.047
  • MARCH TO THE SEA.WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THESE
  • 00:20:31.047 --> 00:20:34.950
  • WHICH REALLY HAS ALWAYS
  • 00:20:36.052 --> 00:20:37.253
  • WHICH REALLY HAS ALWAYSBEEN THE AMERICAN WAY,
  • 00:20:37.253 --> 00:20:38.321
  • BEEN THE AMERICAN WAY,CERTAINLY THE CHRISTIAN WAY,
  • 00:20:38.321 --> 00:20:39.088
  • CERTAINLY THE CHRISTIAN WAY,AND THAT'S WHY A LOT
  • 00:20:39.088 --> 00:20:41.957
  • - DAVID: THERE'S NO
  • 00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:44.927
  • - DAVID: THERE'S NOQUESTION THAT CHRISTIAN
  • 00:20:44.927 --> 00:20:45.594
  • QUESTION THAT CHRISTIANFAITH SHAPED THE WAY THAT
  • 00:20:45.594 --> 00:20:47.096
  • FAITH SHAPED THE WAY THATABRAHAM LINCOLN APPROACHED
  • 00:20:47.096 --> 00:20:47.596
  • ABRAHAM LINCOLN APPROACHEDTHE ENEMY AND TRIED TO
  • 00:20:47.596 --> 00:20:49.498
  • THE ENEMY AND TRIED TORECONCILE THEM AT THE END
  • 00:20:49.498 --> 00:20:51.133
  • RECONCILE THEM AT THE ENDBECAUSE HE TRIED TO KEEP
  • 00:20:51.133 --> 00:20:51.701
  • BECAUSE HE TRIED TO KEEP'EM RECONCILED; WE HAD THE
  • 00:20:51.701 --> 00:20:54.036
  • 'EM RECONCILED; WE HAD THESPLIT; HE TRIED TO BRING
  • 00:20:54.036 --> 00:20:56.305
  • HE DID ALL SORTS OF THINGS
  • 00:20:58.040 --> 00:20:58.607
  • HE DID ALL SORTS OF THINGSTHAT PROBABLY WE THINK HE
  • 00:20:58.607 --> 00:20:59.775
  • THAT PROBABLY WE THINK HESHOULDN'T HAVE GONE THAT
  • 00:20:59.775 --> 00:21:00.543
  • SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE THATFAR, BUT HE WAS TRYING TO
  • 00:21:00.543 --> 00:21:01.577
  • FAR, BUT HE WAS TRYING TORECONCILE.
  • 00:21:01.577 --> 00:21:03.212
  • RECONCILE.AND SO THAT PASSAGE OUT OF
  • 00:21:03.212 --> 00:21:04.280
  • AND SO THAT PASSAGE OUT OF1 CORINTHIANS ABOUT A
  • 00:21:04.280 --> 00:21:05.214
  • 1 CORINTHIANS ABOUT AMINISTRY OF
  • 00:21:05.214 --> 00:21:06.015
  • MINISTRY OFRECONCILIATION, HE TOOK
  • 00:21:06.015 --> 00:21:07.116
  • RECONCILIATION, HE TOOKVERY SERIOUSLY.
  • 00:21:07.116 --> 00:21:08.017
  • VERY SERIOUSLY.AND, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE A
  • 00:21:08.017 --> 00:21:10.853
  • AND, BY THE WAY, WE HAVE AGREAT LETTER WRITTEN BY
  • 00:21:10.853 --> 00:21:12.021
  • GREAT LETTER WRITTEN BYTHE PASTOR OF ABRAHAM
  • 00:21:12.021 --> 00:21:12.988
  • THE PASTOR OF ABRAHAMLINCOLN, TALKING ABOUT HOW
  • 00:21:12.988 --> 00:21:13.989
  • LINCOLN, TALKING ABOUT HOWABRAHAM LINCOLN CAME TO
  • 00:21:13.989 --> 00:21:16.559
  • AND HOW THE PASTOR
  • 00:21:18.027 --> 00:21:18.594
  • AND HOW THE PASTORMENTORED HIM AND HOW THAT
  • 00:21:18.594 --> 00:21:19.028
  • MENTORED HIM AND HOW THATSHAPED WHAT HE DID.
  • 00:21:19.028 --> 00:21:20.663
  • SHAPED WHAT HE DID.SO, AS HE'S COMING INTO
  • 00:21:20.663 --> 00:21:22.098
  • SO, AS HE'S COMING INTOTHE PRESIDENCY, HE'S STILL
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  • THE PRESIDENCY, HE'S STILLA FAIRLY YOUNG, ZEALOUS
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  • A FAIRLY YOUNG, ZEALOUSCHRISTIAN, WHO HAS REALLY
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  • CHRISTIAN, WHO HAS REALLYSTUDIED THE BIBLE VERY
  • 00:21:27.703 --> 00:21:28.304
  • STUDIED THE BIBLE VERYTHOROUGHLY, AND I THINK
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  • THOROUGHLY, AND I THINKTHAT REALLY DID AFFECT
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  • WE HAVE TESTIMONY FROM
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  • WE HAVE TESTIMONY FROMEVEN CLERGY THAT IT WAS
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  • EVEN CLERGY THAT IT WASFIRST IN 1863,
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  • FIRST IN 1863,WHEN LINCOLN PROFESSED OPENLY
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  • WHEN LINCOLN PROFESSED OPENLYTHAT PROFESSION OF
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  • THAT PROFESSION OFFAITH IN CHRIST.
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  • FAITH IN CHRIST.HE HAD COME TO FAITH
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  • HE HAD COME TO FAITHEARLIER, BUT HE FIRST
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  • EARLIER, BUT HE FIRSTPROFESSED IT IN 1863, AND
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  • PROFESSED IT IN 1863, ANDTHEN YOU SEE THAT 1864
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  • THEN YOU SEE THAT 1864SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS,
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  • SECOND INAUGURAL ADDRESS,OH, MY GOSH, IT'S BETTER
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  • OH, MY GOSH, IT'S BETTERTHAN MANY SERMONS WE'LL
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  • THAN MANY SERMONS WE'LLEVER HEAR IN OUR LIFETIME.
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  • EVER HEAR IN OUR LIFETIME.IT'S MORE BIBLICAL.
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  • IT'S MORE BIBLICAL.SO I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY
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  • SO I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLYRIGHT, ERIC.
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  • RIGHT, ERIC.IT WAS HIS BIBLICAL VIEW
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  • IT WAS HIS BIBLICAL VIEWTHAT BROUGHT HIM TO ACT
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  • THAT BROUGHT HIM TO ACTTHE WAY HE DID AND TRY TO
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  • THE WAY HE DID AND TRY TOHAVE SOME GRACE AND
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  • HAVE SOME GRACE ANDACCOMMODATION FOR AN ENEMY
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  • ACCOMMODATION FOR AN ENEMYTHAT HAD BEEN DEFEATED.
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  • THAT HAD BEEN DEFEATED.- ERIC: I WONDER IF THAT
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  • - ERIC: I WONDER IF THATCAN SERVE AS A PRECEDENT
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  • CAN SERVE AS A PRECEDENTFOR REMOVING SOME OF OUR
  • 00:22:09.779 --> 00:22:11.447
  • FOR REMOVING SOME OF OURCONFEDERATE PAST, IN OTHER
  • 00:22:11.447 --> 00:22:13.048
  • CONFEDERATE PAST, IN OTHERWORDS, THE IDEA OF
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  • WORDS, THE IDEA OFTHINKING ABOUT THE WEAKER
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  • THE GRACIOUSNESS THAT THE
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  • THE GRACIOUSNESS THAT THENORTH EXHIBITED IN DEALING
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  • NORTH EXHIBITED IN DEALINGWITH THE DEFEATED SOUTH
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  • WITH THE DEFEATED SOUTHTHAT ALLOWED THESE
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  • THAT ALLOWED THESECONFEDERATE STATUES TO
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  • CONFEDERATE STATUES TOSTAND, I SUPPOSE WE CAN
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  • STAND, I SUPPOSE WE CANTHINK ABOUT IT BOTH WAYS
  • 00:22:26.529 --> 00:22:27.863
  • THINK ABOUT IT BOTH WAYSIN THAT SOME PEOPLE COULD
  • 00:22:27.863 --> 00:22:28.931
  • IN THAT SOME PEOPLE COULDSAY, "LOOK, WHAT THEY DID
  • 00:22:28.931 --> 00:22:30.332
  • SAY, "LOOK, WHAT THEY DIDWAS TREASONOUS, AND WE
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  • WAS TREASONOUS, AND WEOUGHT NOT TO HOLD THEM UP."
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  • OUGHT NOT TO HOLD THEM UP."SO THERE'S A LOT TO
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  • SO THERE'S A LOT TOBE SAID ON THAT, BUT I DO
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  • BE SAID ON THAT, BUT I DOTHINK PEOPLE NEED TO
  • 00:22:35.604 --> 00:22:37.273
  • THINK PEOPLE NEED TOUNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION
  • 00:22:37.273 --> 00:22:39.341
  • UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATIONOF WHY THE NORTH DID NOT
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  • OF WHY THE NORTH DID NOTDESTROY THE SOUTH AND
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  • DESTROY THE SOUTH ANDSHOVE IT IN THEIR FACE
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  • SHOVE IT IN THEIR FACEBECAUSE THEY SAID,
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  • BECAUSE THEY SAID,"WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
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  • "WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.IT'S TIME TO COME TOGETHER."
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  • IT'S TIME TO COME TOGETHER."AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
  • 00:22:48.083 --> 00:22:49.051
  • AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANTPART OF OUR HISTORY,
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  • PART OF OUR HISTORY,AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
  • 00:22:50.085 --> 00:22:50.653
  • AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOWTHAT ABOUT LINCOLN.
  • 00:22:50.653 --> 00:22:51.487
  • THAT ABOUT LINCOLN.I MEAN, WHAT HE DID, WHEN
  • 00:22:51.487 --> 00:22:52.555
  • I MEAN, WHAT HE DID, WHENI THINK ABOUT LINCOLN,
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  • I THINK ABOUT LINCOLN,I JUST THINK, MY GOODNESS,
  • 00:22:53.622 --> 00:22:56.058
  • I JUST THINK, MY GOODNESS,WHAT OTHER PRESIDENT COULD
  • 00:22:56.058 --> 00:22:57.560
  • WHAT OTHER PRESIDENT COULDHAVE BEEN SO MAGNANIMOUS
  • 00:22:57.560 --> 00:22:58.260
  • HAVE BEEN SO MAGNANIMOUSAND COULD'VE BEHAVED IN
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  • AND IF HE HADN'T BEEN A
  • 00:23:01.464 --> 00:23:02.198
  • AND IF HE HADN'T BEEN ACHRISTIAN, HOW WOULD HE
  • 00:23:02.198 --> 00:23:03.432
  • CHRISTIAN, HOW WOULD HEHAVE BEHAVED?
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  • HAVE BEHAVED?AND WE'VE JUST GOT 30
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  • AND WE'VE JUST GOT 30SECONDS LEFT, DAVID.
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  • - DAVID: YEAH, THE FINAL
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  • - DAVID: YEAH, THE FINALTHOUGHT IS THAT A BIBLICAL
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  • THOUGHT IS THAT A BIBLICALVIEW IS WHAT SOLVES MOST
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  • VIEW IS WHAT SOLVES MOSTOF THESE PROBLEMS.
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  • OF THESE PROBLEMS.THE SECULAR VIEW DOES NOT.
  • 00:23:12.208 --> 00:23:13.609
  • THE SECULAR VIEW DOES NOT.AND SO THE COMBINATION OF
  • 00:23:13.609 --> 00:23:14.844
  • AND SO THE COMBINATION OFUNDERSTANDING THE WEAKER
  • 00:23:14.844 --> 00:23:15.544
  • UNDERSTANDING THE WEAKERBROTHER AND WHAT OFFENDS
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  • FROM A CHRISTIAN STANDPOINT,
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  • FROM A CHRISTIAN STANDPOINT,I'M GONNA HELP THAT,
  • 00:23:19.248 --> 00:23:19.982
  • I'M GONNA HELP THAT,BUT AT THE SAME
  • 00:23:19.982 --> 00:23:20.549
  • BUT AT THE SAMETIME, I STILL WANT TRUTH,
  • 00:23:20.549 --> 00:23:21.317
  • TIME, I STILL WANT TRUTH,AND BALANCING THOSE TWO IS
  • 00:23:21.317 --> 00:23:22.485
  • AND BALANCING THOSE TWO ISTHE REAL DIFFICULTY
  • 00:23:22.485 --> 00:23:23.052
  • THE REAL DIFFICULTYAMERICA HAS TODAY.
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  • AMERICA HAS TODAY.- ERIC: BRILLIANTLY PUT,
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  • - ERIC: BRILLIANTLY PUT,MY FRIEND.
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  • MY FRIEND.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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  • THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK AS
  • 00:23:27.423 --> 00:23:28.090
  • WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK ASSOON AS POSSIBLE.
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  • SOON AS POSSIBLE.- DAVID: LOOK FORWARD TO
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  • - DAVID: LOOK FORWARD TOIT, ERIC.
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