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- - MALE: HEY.
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- - ERIC METAXAS: HEY, FOLKS,
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- THIS IS "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW,"
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- AND YOU GUESSED IT: I'M
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- ERIC METAXAS.
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- NOT LONG AGO, I WAS IN
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- CALIFORNIA WITH MY DEAR FRIEND
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- GREG LAURIE AT HIS HARVEST
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- AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WAS
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY, ONE OF THE
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- GREATEST ATHLETES OF THE
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- MODERN ERA.
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- I WAS A METS FAN, GROWING UP.
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- I WAS SO HONORED TO MEET HIM AND
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- SIT DOWN WITH HIM FOR WHAT YOU
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- WILL SOON SEE WAS AN INCREDIBLY
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- SUBSTANTIVE, IMPORTANT
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- CONVERSATION.
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- HIS STORY IS NOTHING LESS THAN
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- AMAZING, AND HERE IT IS.
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- - ERIC: OKAY, HOLY COW, THIS IS
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- "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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- I CANNOT BELIEVE I'VE NEVER
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- DONE A SHOW OUTDOORS BEFORE,
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- BUT I'LL DO ALMOST ANYTHING
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- TO GET TO TALK TO
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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- DARRYL, IS THAT REALLY YOU?
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- IS THIS YOU?
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- - DARRYL STRAWBERRY: WELCOME TO
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- DOIN' THE SHOW OUTSIDE.
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- IT'S PRETTY COOL, RIGHT?
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- - ERIC: LET ME TELL YA
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- SOMETHING.
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- MY FIRST SHOW OUT OF DOORS,
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- BROTHER--
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- - DARRYL: IT'S DIFFERENT,
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- RIGHT?
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- - ERIC: THIS IS AMAZING.
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- WE'RE AT ANGEL STADIUM,
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- BY THE WAY.
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- I SHOULD MAKE THAT CLEAR.
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- WE'RE AT ANGEL STADIUM.
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- PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING, MOST
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- OF THE PEOPLE, I THINK,
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- LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM WILL
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- KNOW WHO DARRYL STRAWBERRY IS,
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- BUT THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE WHO
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- WILL BE LISTENING WHO WILL NOT
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- KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SO I'M GONNA
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- TELL 'EM.
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- YOU ARE A SOMEBODY THAT, WHEN
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- ANYBODY WAS A METS FAN OR A
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- YANKEES FAN, LIKE, YOUR NAME IS
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- AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
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- SO WHERE DO I EVEN START
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- WITH YOU?
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- WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
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- I GREW UP RIGHT HERE IN
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- LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA.
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- - ERIC: YOU GREW UP IN
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- LOS ANGELES.
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- - DARRYL: YEAH.
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- - ERIC: WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT
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- YOU WANTED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL
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- - DARRYL: I THINK WHEN I WAS
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- YOUNG, WHEN I WAS AROUND 13
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- YEARS OLD, 13, 14 YEARS OLD.
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- - ERIC: YOU KNEW THAT,
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- THAT EARLY?
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- - DARRYL: I KNEW IN THE BACK OF
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- MY MIND BECAUSE I CAME FROM A
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- BROKEN SITUATION, DYSFUNCTIONAL
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- MY DAD WAS A RAGING ALCOHOLIC,
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- AND HE USED TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT
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- OF ME AND SAID I'D NEVER AMOUNT
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- TO NOTHIN', SO I KIND OF
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- BELIEVED IT, SO MY PAIN LED ME
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- TO MY GREATNESS, BUT MY
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- GREATNESS WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAD
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- ME TO MY DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR
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- BECAUSE I NEVER GOT WELL
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- ON THE INSIDE.
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- SO WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, I
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- STARTED WATCHING BASEBALL.
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- I STARTED WATCHING THE DODGERS
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- AND THE CINCINNATI REDS, AND
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- THEN I SAW NUMBER 14 THAT PLAYED
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- FOR THE CINCINNATI REDS, AND HIS
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- NAME WAS PETE ROSE, AND I
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- STARTED REALLY IDOLIZIN' WHO HE
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- WAS BECAUSE HE WASN'T THIS
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- OUTSTANDING BASEBALL PLAYER,
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- BUT HIS EFFORT AND
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- HIS HUSTLE--
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- - ERIC: AND THERE'S NO
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- QUESTION, THE "BIG RED MACHINE,"
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- PETE ROSE WAS SUPERHUMAN,
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- REALLY.
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU
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- KNOW, HIS UNIFORM WAS ALWAYS
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- DIRTY, AND I JUST THOUGHT TO
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- MYSELF, "THAT'S WHAT A BASEBALL
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- PLAYER IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE:
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- HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A
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- DIRTY UNIFORM."
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- AND YOU SEE HIM DIVE INTO
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- BASES AND HEADFIRST, AND I
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- JUST THOUGHT HE WAS PHENOMENAL.
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- I'D EVENTUALLY GO ON TO BE A
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- HOME-RUN HITTER, BUT I LEARNED
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- TO STEAL BASES.
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- I LEARNED TO SCORE RUNS.
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- YOU KNOW, I LEARNED TO DO IT ALL
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- BECAUSE OF WATCHIN' PETE ROSE,
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- THE WAY HE PLAYED.
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- - ERIC: WHAT'S THE MOST BASES
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- YOU STOLE IN A SEASON?
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- - DARRYL: THIRTY-SIX,
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- I BELIEVE.
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- I WENT 30-30.
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- - ERIC: SO YOU WERE IN THE
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- FABLED CLUB, THE 30-30 CLUB,
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- RIGHT?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, I'M IN THE
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- 30-30 CLUB.
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- I HIT 39 HOME RUNS, 36 BACK,
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- SOMETHIN' LIKE THAT
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- IN TOTAL.
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- - ERIC: AND WHAT'S THE MOST
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- HOME RUNS YOU HIT IN A SEASON?
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- - DARRYL: THIRTY-NINE.
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- - ERIC: I GOTTA SAY, I MEAN,
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- YOU WERE A PHENOMENON IN
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- YOUR DAY.
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- I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE
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- UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STRUGGLED
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- WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
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- YOU WERE ONE OF THE GREATEST
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- ATHLETES ALIVE, AND IN THE
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- MIDDLE OF THAT, YOU STARTED
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- DEALING WITH THE
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- SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
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- I MEAN, WHEN DID YOU ENTER THE
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- MAJOR LEAGUES?
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- - DARRYL: WELL, I ENTERED THE
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- MAJOR LEAGUES AT 1983.
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- I CAME IN, AND I WAS ROOKIE OF
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- THE YEAR, THAT YEAR, BUT I
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- STRUGGLED WAY BEFORE THAT.
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- - ERIC: ALREADY?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, I STRUGGLED.
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- I STRUGGLED WHEN I WAS 14.
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- I WAS SMOKIN' MARIJUANA WHEN
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- I WAS 14.
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- I WAS DRINKIN' ALCOHOL, COLT 45,
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- WHEN I WAS 14, 15 YEARS OLD.
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- - ERIC: IN OTHER WORDS, A LOT
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- OF PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT ONCE
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- YOU-- YOU KNOW, YOUR CAREER GETS
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- GOING AND STUFF, YOU'D LEAVE IT
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- ALONE, BUT YOU DID NOT?
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- - DARRYL: NO, IT INCREASED.
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- YOU CROSS OVER TO THE
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- NEXT LEVEL.
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- THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS
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- IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS THAT GUYS
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- CROSS OVER AND--
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- - ERIC: I ASSUME THAT THERE
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- WERE OTHER GUYS ON THOSE TEAMS
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- ALSO USING DRUGS AS
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- AN ENHANCEMENT?
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- - DARRYL: A LOT OF GUYS WEREN'T
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- USIN' ENHANCIN' DRUGS,
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- BUT WE'LL USE RECREATION DRUGS.
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- I MEAN, IT WAS A LOT
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- OF DRINKIN'.
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- COME ON, YOU'RE PLAYIN'
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- IN NEW YORK CITY,
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- YOU BECOME THE, LIKE,
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- THE GREATEST TEAM, PLAYIN' IN
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- NEW YORK CITY IN THE '80s,
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- THE METS.
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- YOU KNOW, WE GO ON TO WIN THE
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- WORLD SERIES IN '86.
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- WE SHOULD'VE WON MORE.
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- - ERIC: LET ME ASK YOU THOUGH,
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- SO YOU'RE PLAYING-- MOST PEOPLE,
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- AS THEY'RE WATCHING YOU, THEY
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- THINK EVERYTHING'S FINE BECAUSE
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- YOU'RE PUTTIN' UP THE NUMBERS.
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- I MEAN, YOU'RE DOIN' A GREAT JOB
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- ON THE FIELD.
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- - DARRYL: WELL, I'M ATHLETIC,
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- STRONG.
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- YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE MIND
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- CAPACITY OF BEING GREAT.
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- I HAVE THE BODY PHYSIQUE OF
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- BEIN' GREAT, AND I HAD THE HEART
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- OF BEIN' GREAT.
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- I WASN'T AFRAID OF-- WELL, WHAT
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- I MEAN ABOUT THAT, I WASN'T
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- AFRAID TO FAIL 'CAUSE FAILURE
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- WAS A PART OF IT, BUT THE INSIDE
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- WASN'T GREAT.
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- EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT ME FROM
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- THE OUTSIDE AND SAY,
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- "WHAT'S WRONG?"
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- BUT I WAS COMPLETELY BROKEN ON
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- THE INSIDE.
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- I WAS WOUNDED.
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- I MEAN, MY FATHER LEFT
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- ME WOUNDED.
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- I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE
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- THINK, ERIC, BECAUSE YOU MAKE
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- MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IT'S GON'
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- MAKE YOU WELL,
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- "MONEY IS GONNA MAKE YOU WELL."
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- MONEY'S NEVER GONNA HEAL
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- YOU FROM THE WOUNDS THAT
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- ARE UP ON YOU ON THE INSIDE,
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- AND I WAS DEEPLY WOUNDED
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- ON THE INSIDE, AND I WAS
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- SEARCHING FOR MY IDENTITY OF
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- "WHO AM I?"
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- NOT AS "DARRYL STRAWBERRY," WHO
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- PLAYED FOR THE METS, DODGERS,
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- GIANTS, YANKEES, BUT "WHO AM
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- I AS A MAN?"
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- - ERIC: SO YOU ENTERED THE
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- MAJOR LEAGUES IN '83.
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- DID YOU START PLAYING
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- FOR THE METS?
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- I DON'T REMEMBER.
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- - DARRYL: '83, I CAME IN.
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- I MEAN, I WAS DRAFTED 1980 BY
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- THE METS, NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK.
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- SPENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN
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- THE MINOR LEAGUES.
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- I CAME CLOSE TO QUITTING IN THE
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- MINOR LEAGUES, AND THEY ASKED ME
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- TO GIVE IT ANOTHER YEAR, AND I
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- WENT TO JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
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- I BECAME THE TEXAS LEAGUE MVP,
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- AND I BECAME A BALLPLAYER.
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- I DIDN'T BECOME A MAN, BUT I
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- BECAME A BALLPLAYER, AND I CAME
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- UP TO THE BIG LEAGUES IN '83,
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- AND MY ROOKIE YEAR, MY FIRST
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- ROAD TRIP, A VETERAN PLAYER TOLD
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- ME TO GO BACK TO THE BATHROOM,
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- AND THERE I WAS, I WAS
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- INTRODUCED TO COCAINE AT THE AGE
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- OF 21, AND HE SAID, "WELCOME TO
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- THE BIG LEAGUES, KID."
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- AND I THOUGHT I HAD ARRIVED,
- 00:06:33.110 --> 00:06:35.070
- AND THEY TOOK ME OUT
- 00:06:35.070 --> 00:06:36.200
- ON A ROAD TRIP THAT NIGHT
- 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:38.220
- AND TOOK ME TO A CLUB, AND
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- IT WAS GIRLS, DRINKS, PARTIES.
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- - ERIC: THESE ARE YOUR
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- FELLOW PLAYERS?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST
- 00:06:45.020 --> 00:06:45.240
- WANTED TO FIT IN.
- 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:46.250
- I WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT
- 00:06:46.250 --> 00:06:47.270
- 'CAUSE, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, MY
- 00:06:47.270 --> 00:06:49.060
- FATHER SAID I'D NEVER
- 00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:49.260
- SO I REALLY WANTED TO BE A PART
- 00:06:53.130 --> 00:06:54.060
- OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I
- 00:06:54.060 --> 00:06:56.280
- HE SAID, I WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING,
- 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:01.260
- AND, HERE, I TURNED OUT TO BE
- 00:07:01.260 --> 00:07:02.170
- THIS MAJOR-LEAGUE PLAYER AT THE
- 00:07:02.170 --> 00:07:03.090
- AGE OF 21.
- 00:07:03.090 --> 00:07:04.120
- [MUSIC]
- 00:07:08.010 --> 00:07:11.010
- [MUSIC]
- 00:07:11.010 --> 00:07:12.090
- - ERIC: SO LET ME ASK YOU, YOU
- 00:07:12.090 --> 00:07:13.120
- KNOW, YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS
- 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.020
- SUCCESS.
- 00:07:14.020 --> 00:07:15.040
- YOU TAKE THE METS TO THEIR FIRST
- 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.020
- WORLD SERIES IN 13 YEARS.
- 00:07:17.070 --> 00:07:20.070
- IT'S A BIG DEAL.
- 00:07:20.070 --> 00:07:21.110
- IT'S A GREAT TEAM.
- 00:07:21.110 --> 00:07:22.070
- AT WHAT POINT DID THINGS BEGIN
- 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:25.080
- TO GO SOUTH FOR YOU, OR WAS IT
- 00:07:25.080 --> 00:07:27.040
- NOT SHOWING UNTIL YOU WERE
- 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:28.080
- - DARRYL: NO, IT WASN'T SHOWING
- 00:07:31.010 --> 00:07:31.230
- IN MY DAYS, MY EARLY DAYS, YOU
- 00:07:31.230 --> 00:07:32.170
- KNOW, PLAYIN' WITH THE METS.
- 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:33.200
- YOU KNOW, I WAS-- AT 21, I WAS A
- 00:07:33.200 --> 00:07:35.200
- ALCOHOLIC, AND BY THE TIME I
- 00:07:35.200 --> 00:07:37.070
- I WAS ADDICTED TO AMPHETAMINES,
- 00:07:40.130 --> 00:07:43.130
- AND I COULD NOT PLAY UNLESS I
- 00:07:43.130 --> 00:07:45.040
- HAD TAKEN AMPHETAMINES EVERY
- 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:48.060
- NIGHT, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE
- 00:07:48.060 --> 00:07:49.210
- THE KIND OF PLAYER I BECAME.
- 00:07:49.210 --> 00:07:51.260
- I BECAME THIS OUTSTANDING PLAYER
- 00:07:51.260 --> 00:07:54.040
- BECAUSE I'M TAKIN' AMPHETAMINES,
- 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.260
- AND THEY KIND OF, LIKE, JUST,
- 00:07:55.260 --> 00:07:57.070
- LIGHT MY WHOLE LIGHT UP EVERY
- 00:07:57.140 --> 00:08:00.160
- NIGHT, AND I PLAYED LIKE THAT
- 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:01.290
- FOR YEARS, AND I DRANK FOR
- 00:08:01.290 --> 00:08:02.280
- YEARS, AND HAD I KNOWN HOW GOOD
- 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:05.210
- I WAS, I'D HAVE TOOK BETTER CARE
- 00:08:05.210 --> 00:08:07.260
- OF MYSELF, BUT I DIDN'T.
- 00:08:07.260 --> 00:08:08.290
- I'D GO ON THE ROAD, AND I'M OUT
- 00:08:08.290 --> 00:08:10.030
- ALL NIGHT, AND I'M DRINKIN' AND
- 00:08:10.030 --> 00:08:11.120
- PARTYIN', AND THE GIRLS AND--
- 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:12.110
- - ERIC: RIGHT, I MEAN, YEAH,
- 00:08:12.110 --> 00:08:13.250
- YOU'D HAVE TO THINK THAT THAT'S
- 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:14.190
- GONNA TAKE-- EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE
- 00:08:14.190 --> 00:08:15.260
- YOUNG, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE
- 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:17.170
- OPTIMAL IF YOU'RE DOIN'
- 00:08:17.170 --> 00:08:19.000
- THAT EVERY NIGHT.
- 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:19.290
- - DARRYL: WELL, NO, YOU'RE NOT,
- 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:21.070
- BUT AT THAT TIME, YOU DON'T
- 00:08:21.070 --> 00:08:22.040
- THINK THAT WAY.
- 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.140
- YOU KNOW, EVERY YOUNG PLAYER
- 00:08:24.140 --> 00:08:25.040
- THINK, "HEY, I'M SUPERMAN."
- 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:26.000
- I BOUNCED BACK AND GET
- 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.120
- UP THE NEXT DAY, AND I'VE
- 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:28.030
- BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT, AND I'M
- 00:08:28.030 --> 00:08:29.140
- TWO FOR THREE WITH--
- 00:08:29.140 --> 00:08:31.160
- - ERIC: YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROUD
- 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.220
- OF THE FACT THAT YOU PUSHED
- 00:08:33.220 --> 00:08:35.050
- YOURSELF THAT HARD THE LAST--
- 00:08:35.050 --> 00:08:37.060
- THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THAT YOU'RE
- 00:08:37.060 --> 00:08:38.130
- STILL ABLE TO PULL IT OUT.
- 00:08:38.130 --> 00:08:39.140
- YEAH, IT ALMOST BECOMES KIND OF
- 00:08:39.220 --> 00:08:42.220
- A SICK SENSE OF PRIDE.
- 00:08:42.220 --> 00:08:44.100
- SO WHAT YEAR DID YOU GO TO
- 00:08:44.100 --> 00:08:45.100
- THE YANKEES?
- 00:08:45.100 --> 00:08:46.010
- I DON'T REMEMBER.
- 00:08:46.010 --> 00:08:46.180
- - DARRYL: NO, I LEFT AT THE
- 00:08:46.180 --> 00:08:47.150
- FREE-AGENT YEAR, AND I WENT TO
- 00:08:47.150 --> 00:08:49.030
- L.A.
- 00:08:49.030 --> 00:08:50.080
- I CAME TO L.A.
- 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:50.270
- IN 1991 AFTER I BECAME A FREE
- 00:08:52.050 --> 00:08:55.050
- AGENT, AND YOU WOULD THINK-- I
- 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:55.290
- MEAN, I SIGNED A $20 MILLION
- 00:08:55.290 --> 00:08:56.240
- CONTRACT, BUT I WAS MISERABLE
- 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:57.170
- WHEN I SIGNED THE CONTRACT
- 00:08:57.170 --> 00:08:58.060
- AS A FREE AGENT.
- 00:08:58.060 --> 00:08:58.240
- - ERIC: WHY?
- 00:08:58.240 --> 00:08:59.070
- - DARRYL: WELL, 'CAUSE MY
- 00:08:59.070 --> 00:08:59.260
- MARRIAGE WAS FALLIN' APART, I
- 00:08:59.260 --> 00:09:00.200
- WAS A ALCOHOLIC, I WAS A
- 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.190
- WOMANIZER.
- 00:09:01.190 --> 00:09:03.150
- SO I CAME HERE TO L.A.
- 00:09:03.150 --> 00:09:06.050
- AND SIGNED THE BIGGEST CONTRACT
- 00:09:06.050 --> 00:09:07.140
- OF MY LIFE, AND BEFORE THE
- 00:09:07.140 --> 00:09:08.170
- SEASON EVEN STARTED, I WENT TO A
- 00:09:08.170 --> 00:09:09.260
- CRUSADE, A MORRIS CERULLO
- 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:13.090
- CRUSADE, AND THAT'S THE FIRST
- 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:16.030
- TIME IN 1991 THAT I HEARD ABOUT
- 00:09:16.030 --> 00:09:17.060
- THIS MAN NAMED JESUS.
- 00:09:17.060 --> 00:09:17.230
- I WENT THERE THURSDAY, FRIDAY,
- 00:09:17.230 --> 00:09:18.260
- SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
- 00:09:18.260 --> 00:09:19.160
- ALL HE TALKED ABOUT WAS JESUS,
- 00:09:19.160 --> 00:09:21.130
- AND I CRIED EVERY NIGHT.
- 00:09:21.130 --> 00:09:22.250
- I SAT UP THERE, AND I HAD JUST
- 00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:25.010
- SIGNED A $20 MILLION CONTRACT.
- 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:26.270
- EVERYBODY WAS PROBABLY
- 00:09:26.270 --> 00:09:27.160
- WONDERIN', "WHAT IS
- 00:09:27.160 --> 00:09:28.270
- WRONG WITH HIM?
- 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:29.160
- HE SHOULD BE SO HAPPY," BUT I
- 00:09:29.160 --> 00:09:30.290
- WAS WEEPIN' EVERY NIGHT, AND I
- 00:09:30.290 --> 00:09:32.130
- REMEMBER SUNDAY, I WALKED DOWN,
- 00:09:32.130 --> 00:09:33.150
- AND HE LAID HANDS ON ME, AND THE
- 00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:35.040
- POWER GOD CAME OVER ME.
- 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:35.280
- I WAS SPEAKIN' IMMEDIATELY
- 00:09:35.280 --> 00:09:37.060
- IN TONGUES.
- 00:09:37.060 --> 00:09:38.060
- MY RIVER-- MY BELLY WAS FLOWIN'
- 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:40.060
- LIKE A RIVER AFTER HE LAID HANDS
- 00:09:40.060 --> 00:09:41.280
- ON ME, AND THIS GUY, HIS GUY
- 00:09:41.290 --> 00:09:44.290
- PICKED ME UP, AND HE SAYS,
- 00:09:44.290 --> 00:09:45.180
- "I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE--"
- 00:09:45.180 --> 00:09:47.250
- IT'S ONE OF HIS GUYS--
- 00:09:47.250 --> 00:09:48.210
- HE SAYS, "BUT GOD
- 00:09:48.210 --> 00:09:49.070
- HAS CALLED YOU."
- 00:09:49.070 --> 00:09:50.250
- AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
- 00:09:50.250 --> 00:09:51.160
- "OH, MY GOD, HE SOUNDS
- 00:09:51.160 --> 00:09:52.240
- JUST LIKE MY MOTHER"
- 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.130
- 'CAUSE MY MOTHER SAID GOD
- 00:09:54.130 --> 00:09:55.140
- HAS CALLED ME--
- 00:09:55.140 --> 00:09:56.290
- - ERIC: IS THAT RIGHT?
- 00:09:56.290 --> 00:09:58.180
- - DARRYL: -- TO PREACH
- 00:09:58.180 --> 00:09:59.060
- THE GOSPEL.
- 00:09:59.060 --> 00:09:59.180
- - ERIC: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
- 00:09:59.180 --> 00:10:00.070
- - DARRYL: MY MOTHER WAS DYIN',
- 00:10:00.070 --> 00:10:00.290
- AND SHE SAID TO ME ONE NIGHT
- 00:10:00.290 --> 00:10:03.100
- I PRAYED FOR HER.
- 00:10:03.100 --> 00:10:04.060
- SHE SAYS, "OH, YOU COULD PRAY,"
- 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:05.190
- SHE SAID, "BUT GOD TOLD ME--"
- 00:10:05.190 --> 00:10:08.010
- WHEN SHE WAS DYIN', SHE SAID,
- 00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:10.160
- "GOD TOLD ME HE'S GON' GET IT
- 00:10:10.160 --> 00:10:11.070
- OUT OF YOU."
- 00:10:11.070 --> 00:10:11.190
- SHE SAID, "YOU'RE GONNA GO
- 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:12.080
- THROUGH IT, BUT GOD SAYS HE'S
- 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.000
- GON' GET IT OUT OF YOU."
- 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.150
- - ERIC: IS THAT AMAZING?
- 00:10:15.150 --> 00:10:16.260
- DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR MOTHER
- 00:10:16.260 --> 00:10:17.290
- WAS A WOMAN OF GOD BEFORE THAT?
- 00:10:17.290 --> 00:10:19.110
- - DARRYL: YES.
- 00:10:19.110 --> 00:10:20.040
- - ERIC: YOU DID?
- 00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:21.020
- - DARRYL: MY MOTHER LIVED
- 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:21.290
- A CHRISTIAN LIFE.
- 00:10:21.290 --> 00:10:22.150
- - ERIC: BUT SHE DIDN'T DRAG YOU
- 00:10:22.150 --> 00:10:23.070
- TO CHURCH THOUGH?
- 00:10:23.070 --> 00:10:23.220
- - DARRYL: SHE DIDN'T DRAG
- 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:24.110
- US TO CHURCH.
- 00:10:24.110 --> 00:10:24.240
- SHE DIDN'T MAKE US GO TO CHURCH.
- 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:25.290
- IT WAS OUR CHOICE, BUT SHE
- 00:10:25.290 --> 00:10:27.120
- PRAYED FOR ALL OF US, AND THE
- 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.240
- THING ABOUT IT WAS HER PRAYERS
- 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.130
- WERE ANSWERED.
- 00:10:32.130 --> 00:10:34.150
- SHE PRAYED TO GOD, "SAVE 'EM."
- 00:10:34.150 --> 00:10:37.030
- SHE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE
- 00:10:37.030 --> 00:10:38.110
- BUT US-- FOR US TO BE SAVED,
- 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:39.110
- AND HERE, TODAY,
- 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:41.160
- YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DESCRIBE
- 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:44.080
- WHAT GOD HAS DONE IN MY
- 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:44.260
- LIFE, YOU KNOW, OF ME PREACHIN'
- 00:10:44.260 --> 00:10:47.050
- THE GOSPEL.
- 00:10:47.050 --> 00:10:48.210
- I'M NOT QUALIFIED.
- 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:49.060
- WHEN HE CALLED ME NINE YEARS AGO
- 00:10:49.060 --> 00:10:51.060
- TO PREACH, I TOLD HIM,
- 00:10:51.060 --> 00:10:52.050
- "YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY."
- 00:10:52.050 --> 00:10:52.230
- HE GOES, "NO, I
- 00:10:52.230 --> 00:10:53.110
- GOT THE RIGHT ONE."
- 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:54.090
- I SAYS,
- 00:10:54.090 --> 00:10:54.260
- "I'M NOT QUALIFIED."
- 00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:55.120
- HE SAID,
- 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:55.240
- "NO ONE IS QUALIFIED.
- 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:56.110
- I QUALIFY THE CALL."
- 00:10:56.110 --> 00:10:58.110
- - ERIC: WOW, SO YOU'RE TELLIN'
- 00:10:58.110 --> 00:10:59.140
- ME THAT YOU HAVE THIS EVENT.
- 00:10:59.140 --> 00:11:00.110
- IT HAPPENS IN 1991.
- 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:02.080
- WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT?
- 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.140
- BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT OF
- 00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:04.070
- TROUBLE AFTER THAT, SO WHAT
- 00:11:04.070 --> 00:11:06.050
- HAPPENED AT THAT MOMENT?
- 00:11:06.050 --> 00:11:08.250
- I MEAN, YOU KNOW--
- 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:09.110
- - DARRYL: WHAT HAPPENED, AFTER
- 00:11:09.110 --> 00:11:10.080
- THAT, IS I DIDN'T GET DISCIPLED.
- 00:11:10.110 --> 00:11:13.110
- DISCIPLESHIP IS SO IMPORTANT,
- 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:15.270
- YOU KNOW, AND THE BIBLE
- 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:17.190
- TALKS ABOUT IT.
- 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:18.090
- HE SAYS, "MY PEOPLE PERISH
- 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:18.280
- BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,"
- 00:11:18.280 --> 00:11:20.010
- NO KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING
- 00:11:20.010 --> 00:11:21.020
- OF GOD'S WORD.
- 00:11:21.020 --> 00:11:21.220
- WE KNOW EARTHLY THINGS, BUT WE
- 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:23.210
- DON'T KNOW KINGDOM THINGS
- 00:11:23.210 --> 00:11:24.260
- BECAUSE WE NEVER PICKED UP THE
- 00:11:24.260 --> 00:11:26.260
- BOOK, AND WE NEVER STUDIED
- 00:11:26.260 --> 00:11:28.100
- IT FOR OURSELF.
- 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:29.100
- WE HEAR A PASTOR PREACH IT AND
- 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:30.260
- WONDER HOW HE KNOWS SO MUCH, AND
- 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:32.230
- MOST OF THE TIME, THE AVERAGE
- 00:11:32.230 --> 00:11:35.100
- PERSON NEVER GOES TO A BIBLE
- 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:38.100
- STUDY TO LEARN, YOU KNOW, GOD'S
- 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.250
- WAYS AND GOD'S COMMANDMENTS, AND
- 00:11:39.250 --> 00:11:41.070
- THAT LEAVES US IN THE
- 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:41.260
- SAME PLACE.
- 00:11:41.260 --> 00:11:43.220
- THAT LEAVES US IN THE SAME,
- 00:11:43.220 --> 00:11:45.020
- FAMILIAR PLACE, WHICH THE ENEMY
- 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:47.010
- KNOWS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY
- 00:11:47.010 --> 00:11:48.160
- KNOW JESUS.
- 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:50.090
- HE KNOWS THAT YOU KNOW HIS NAME,
- 00:11:50.090 --> 00:11:51.020
- BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HIS POWER,
- 00:11:51.020 --> 00:11:53.040
- AND THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY
- 00:11:53.040 --> 00:11:54.190
- HAPPENS TO SO MANY OF US WHEN WE
- 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:57.060
- COME AND HAVE THIS CONVERSION OF
- 00:11:57.060 --> 00:11:59.090
- CHRIST AND WE NEVER GO BACK, AND
- 00:11:59.090 --> 00:12:01.160
- WE WONDER WHY WE-- 'CAUSE THE
- 00:12:01.160 --> 00:12:02.170
- ENEMY KNOWS THAT, IF YOU NEVER
- 00:12:02.170 --> 00:12:04.060
- PICK UP THAT BIBLE, HE KNOWS YOU
- 00:12:04.060 --> 00:12:06.050
- GOIN' BACK TO THE FAMILIAR.
- 00:12:06.050 --> 00:12:06.290
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU HAVE
- 00:12:06.290 --> 00:12:07.290
- THIS EXPERIENCE.
- 00:12:07.290 --> 00:12:09.130
- YOU'VE SIGNED A $20 MILLION
- 00:12:09.130 --> 00:12:11.100
- CONTRACT, AND YOU START PLAYING
- 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.280
- FOR THE-- WAS IT THE DODGERS?
- 00:12:12.280 --> 00:12:14.250
- - DARRYL: DODGERS, L.A.
- 00:12:14.250 --> 00:12:15.130
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU'RE PLAYING
- 00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:16.160
- FOR THE-- HOW LONG WERE YOU
- 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:17.100
- WITH THE DODGERS?
- 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:17.260
- - DARRYL: I WAS FROM
- 00:12:17.260 --> 00:12:18.130
- '91 TO '95.
- 00:12:18.130 --> 00:12:19.180
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO DURING THOSE
- 00:12:19.180 --> 00:12:21.210
- YEARS, DID YOU HAVE ANY
- 00:12:21.210 --> 00:12:23.190
- CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE AT ALL
- 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:24.280
- IN YOUR LIFE?
- 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:25.170
- - DARRYL: NO, I MEAN,
- 00:12:25.170 --> 00:12:27.000
- EVERYTHING-- I REALLY--
- 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.280
- ACTUALLY, WHEN I GOT SAVED IN
- 00:12:28.280 --> 00:12:30.160
- '91, AND I WAS BORN AGAIN, THE
- 00:12:30.160 --> 00:12:32.050
- MEDIA PERSECUTED ME BECAUSE I
- 00:12:32.050 --> 00:12:35.000
- WASN'T THE SAME
- 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.270
- DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
- 00:12:36.270 --> 00:12:38.090
- - ERIC: OH, THEY PERSECUTED
- 00:12:38.090 --> 00:12:39.150
- YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE
- 00:12:39.150 --> 00:12:41.050
- PUBLIC ABOUT IT?
- 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:41.190
- - DARRYL: YEAH, I WENT PUBLIC,
- 00:12:41.190 --> 00:12:42.110
- YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD
- 00:12:42.110 --> 00:12:42.270
- FOUND CHRIST.
- 00:12:42.270 --> 00:12:43.160
- - ERIC: AND THEY DIDN'T
- 00:12:43.160 --> 00:12:44.040
- LIKE THAT?
- 00:12:44.040 --> 00:12:44.150
- - DARRYL: THEY DIDN'T
- 00:12:44.150 --> 00:12:45.020
- LIKE THAT.
- 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:45.130
- THEY CAME AGAINST ME, AND I RAN
- 00:12:45.130 --> 00:12:46.120
- INTO THE WALL AND DISLOCATED MY
- 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:47.230
- SHOULDER THE FIRST SEASON, AND
- 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:49.220
- I WENT BACK.
- 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:55.180
- I WENT BACK OUT BECAUSE I DIDN'T
- 00:12:55.180 --> 00:12:56.100
- GET DISCIPLED.
- 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:57.100
- I WENT BACK OUT FOR PROBABLY
- 00:12:57.100 --> 00:12:58.000
- ANOTHER 13, 14 YEARS OF MY LIFE,
- 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:59.130
- I WAS BROKEN.
- 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:03.040
- I WAS LEFT FOR DEAD.
- 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:04.130
- - ERIC: AND SO YOU'RE NOT
- 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:05.050
- WALKIN' WITH GOD.
- 00:13:05.050 --> 00:13:05.230
- YOU GET BACK INTO THE
- 00:13:05.230 --> 00:13:06.230
- SAME OLD THING.
- 00:13:06.230 --> 00:13:07.200
- WHEN YOU GO TO PLAY FOR THE
- 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.200
- YANKEES, AT THAT TIME,
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- PHYSICALLY AND IN TERMS OF YOUR
- 00:13:09.210 --> 00:13:11.090
- PROSPECTS AND EVERYTHING,
- 00:13:11.090 --> 00:13:12.080
- EVERYTHING'S LOOKING GOOD?
- 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:13.120
- - DARRYL: YEAH, WHEN I CAME
- 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:14.060
- BACK-- WHEN I ACTUALLY CAME BACK
- 00:13:14.060 --> 00:13:15.060
- AFTER PLAYING HERE IN L.A.,
- 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:18.010
- I WENT THROUGH HELL.
- 00:13:18.010 --> 00:13:19.040
- I GOT INTO SERIOUS DRUGS.
- 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:19.290
- - ERIC: HERE, IN L.A.?
- 00:13:19.290 --> 00:13:21.070
- - DARRYL: HERE, IN L.A., BACK
- 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:22.010
- HOME, 'CAUSE I KNEW ALL
- 00:13:22.010 --> 00:13:22.270
- THE BACK STREETS.
- 00:13:22.270 --> 00:13:23.150
- - ERIC: AS AN ATHLETE, WERE YOU
- 00:13:23.150 --> 00:13:24.100
- STILL PERFORMING, OR DID YOUR
- 00:13:24.100 --> 00:13:25.080
- NUMBERS START TO--
- 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:26.140
- - DARRYL: I STARTED TO
- 00:13:26.140 --> 00:13:27.050
- REALLY DECLINE.
- 00:13:27.050 --> 00:13:27.290
- YOU KNOW, I STARTED HAVIN'
- 00:13:27.290 --> 00:13:30.270
- HEALTH ISSUES, YOU KNOW, LIKE,
- 00:13:30.270 --> 00:13:32.140
- MY BACK WENT OUT.
- 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:34.170
- I HAD TO HAVE BACK SURGERY
- 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:36.080
- AND THEN I--
- 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.120
- - ERIC: WHAT YEAR DID THE
- 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:38.010
- YANKEES SIGN YOU-- '95?
- 00:13:38.010 --> 00:13:40.130
- - DARRYL: '95.
- 00:13:40.130 --> 00:13:41.070
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHEN THEY
- 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:42.100
- SIGNED YOU, WERE THEY EXCITED?
- 00:13:42.100 --> 00:13:44.140
- WHERE WERE YOU IN YOUR
- 00:13:44.140 --> 00:13:45.190
- CAREER AT THAT POINT?
- 00:13:45.190 --> 00:13:46.210
- 'CAUSE YOU CONTINUED TO--
- 00:13:46.210 --> 00:13:47.100
- - DARRYL: THEY WERE
- 00:13:47.100 --> 00:13:47.260
- VERY EXCITED.
- 00:13:47.260 --> 00:13:48.090
- - ERIC: -- 'CAUSE YOU CONTINUED
- 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:49.010
- TO DO VERY WELL.
- 00:13:49.010 --> 00:13:49.220
- - DARRYL: I WENT AND PLAYED
- 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:50.180
- DOWN AT--
- 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:51.100
- WELL, THEY SIGNED ME IN '95,
- 00:13:51.100 --> 00:13:52.190
- AND THEN THEY WANTED TO BRING
- 00:13:52.190 --> 00:13:54.280
- ME BACK IN '96, BUT THEY DIDN'T,
- 00:13:54.280 --> 00:13:56.120
- AND I FIGURED MY CAREER WAS
- 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.180
- OVER BY THEN, SO I WENT AND
- 00:13:58.180 --> 00:14:00.100
- PLAYED IN SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA,
- 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:01.250
- FOR THE SAINT PAUL SAINTS
- 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:03.200
- IN '96.
- 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:04.280
- - ERIC: WOW, I MISSED THAT.
- 00:14:04.280 --> 00:14:05.220
- - DARRYL: YEAH, AND THAT WAS A
- 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:07.270
- GREAT TIME DOWN THERE.
- 00:14:07.270 --> 00:14:09.130
- IT WAS A GREAT TIME DOWN THERE,
- 00:14:09.130 --> 00:14:10.150
- AND I WENT TO THE YANKEES IN
- 00:14:10.150 --> 00:14:11.150
- '96, AND ON TO HELP THE YANKEES
- 00:14:11.150 --> 00:14:12.220
- BE A PART OF THAT '96 RUN.
- 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:14.000
- - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
- 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:15.210
- I MEAN, I DIDN'T THINK THE
- 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:16.250
- YANKEES WOULD EVER LOSE AGAIN.
- 00:14:16.250 --> 00:14:18.070
- FOR A FEW YEARS, IT WAS JUST ON
- 00:14:18.070 --> 00:14:19.100
- AND ON AND ON, AND ON.
- 00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:20.160
- IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
- 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:21.100
- WERE YOU OPEN ABOUT THAT, AT THE
- 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:22.160
- TIME, THAT YOU HAD SUBSTANCE
- 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:24.200
- ABUSE, OR WAS IT STILL SOMETHING
- 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:25.210
- YOU WERE KIND OF HIDING?
- 00:14:25.210 --> 00:14:26.180
- - DARRYL: I MEAN, I WAS
- 00:14:26.180 --> 00:14:27.060
- OPEN ABOUT IT.
- 00:14:27.060 --> 00:14:27.290
- MINE'S WAS ALREADY IN
- 00:14:27.290 --> 00:14:29.200
- THE PUBLIC EYES.
- 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:30.050
- I ALREADY KNEW I HAD PROBLEMS,
- 00:14:30.050 --> 00:14:31.040
- AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS LIKE
- 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:32.250
- REALLY STRONG, REALLY POWERFUL.
- 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:34.270
- ADDICTION IS VERY POWERFUL.
- 00:14:34.270 --> 00:14:36.080
- I THINK PEOPLE DON'T
- 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.040
- UNDERSTAND IT,
- 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:38.170
- AND THEY LOOK AT PEOPLE
- 00:14:38.170 --> 00:14:39.100
- AND SAY, "WELL, WHY CAN'T
- 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:39.290
- THEY JUST STOP?"
- 00:14:39.290 --> 00:14:40.130
- IT JUST DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
- 00:14:40.130 --> 00:14:42.160
- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T-- 'CAUSE YOU
- 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:43.090
- DON'T KNOW THE TRAUMA.
- 00:14:43.090 --> 00:14:43.270
- YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED
- 00:14:43.270 --> 00:14:44.240
- TO 'EM, WHAT'S AFFECTED 'EM ON
- 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:45.150
- THE INSIDE 'CAUSE PEOPLE THAT
- 00:14:45.150 --> 00:14:47.200
- USE DRUGS OR DRINK ALCOHOL
- 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.170
- CONSISTENTLY LIKE WE DO,
- 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:53.040
- SOMETHIN' HAS HAPPENED TO YOU
- 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:54.210
- THAT IS-- MADE YOU FEEL NOT
- 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:56.160
- WORTHY OF YOUR OWN LIFE, EVEN
- 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:58.220
- BEIN' A STAR OR WHATEVER
- 00:14:58.220 --> 00:15:00.160
- IT MAY BE.
- 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:01.150
- AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AVERAGE
- 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.200
- PERSON IN AMERICA THAT DOESN'T
- 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.080
- HAVE ADDICTION PROBLEMS, AND
- 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:07.060
- THEY HAVE THE SAME WOUNDS ON THE
- 00:15:07.060 --> 00:15:09.070
- INSIDE THAT CAN'T GET WELL.
- 00:15:09.070 --> 00:15:10.050
- SO WHAT IS IT THAT FILLS THE
- 00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:14.170
- WOUNDS ON THE INSIDE?
- 00:15:14.170 --> 00:15:15.080
- THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO
- 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:16.060
- COULD FILL 'EM-- ONLY ONE.
- 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:19.050
- WE COULD TRY EVERYTHING WE WANT.
- 00:15:19.050 --> 00:15:20.210
- I COULD TRY TO BE MORE
- 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:22.050
- SUCCESSFUL, MORE MONEY, MORE
- 00:15:22.050 --> 00:15:23.130
- FAME, MORE FORTUNE, BUT THERE'S
- 00:15:23.130 --> 00:15:25.010
- ONLY PERSON THAT COULD FULFILL
- 00:15:25.010 --> 00:15:26.090
- THE BROKENNESS ON THE INSIDE,
- 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:27.280
- AND THAT'S JESUS HIMSELF, AND I
- 00:15:27.280 --> 00:15:29.190
- THINK WE NEED TO SHOW PEOPLE
- 00:15:31.050 --> 00:15:34.050
- THAT IN THE SOCIETY TODAY
- 00:15:34.050 --> 00:15:35.290
- BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKIN' FOR
- 00:15:35.290 --> 00:15:37.120
- EVERYTHING ELSE TO TRY TO MAKE
- 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.200
- 'EM WELL, AND HERE'S A GUY-- I
- 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.290
- TELL 'EM ALL THE TIME I STAND ON
- 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:41.150
- THE PULPIT AND PREACH, I'VE BEEN
- 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.120
- PRIVILEGED MY WHOLE LIFE.
- 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:43.260
- I'VE LIVED BEHIND COMMUNITY
- 00:15:43.260 --> 00:15:45.280
- GATES.
- 00:15:45.280 --> 00:15:48.090
- I'VE HAD A BUNCH OF STUFF, BUT I
- 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:51.040
- DID NOT BECOME WELL UNTIL I GOT
- 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:51.280
- INTO A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP
- 00:15:51.280 --> 00:15:52.220
- WITH JESUS.
- 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:53.290
- WHEN I UNDERSTAND THE SYMBOL OF
- 00:15:53.290 --> 00:15:54.290
- THE CROSS AND UNDERSTAND THE
- 00:15:54.290 --> 00:15:56.090
- BLOOD AND UNDERSTAND HIS
- 00:15:56.090 --> 00:15:57.090
- FINISHED WORK ON THAT,
- 00:15:57.090 --> 00:15:58.170
- EVERYTHING THAT WAS KILLIN' ME,
- 00:15:58.170 --> 00:16:00.120
- HE ALREADY KILLED IT, SO
- 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.120
- THERE'S VICTORY.
- 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:02.220
- THERE'S TRUE VICTORY, AND I
- 00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:05.080
- THINK SO MANY OF US DON'T
- 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.030
- WANNA RECEIVE THAT.
- 00:16:06.030 --> 00:16:06.190
- - ERIC: AT WHAT POINT DID THE
- 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.100
- YANKEES SAY, "WE'RE NO LONGER
- 00:16:08.100 --> 00:16:09.020
- INTERESTED IN THIS FRANCHISE,
- 00:16:09.020 --> 00:16:10.270
- CALLED DARRYL STRAWBERRY"?
- 00:16:10.270 --> 00:16:11.290
- - DARRYL: WELL, THE YANKEES
- 00:16:11.290 --> 00:16:12.250
- NEVER SAID THAT.
- 00:16:12.250 --> 00:16:13.130
- GEORGE, THE BOSS, NEVER
- 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:15.160
- SAID THAT.
- 00:16:15.160 --> 00:16:16.010
- - ERIC: HE NEVER DID?
- 00:16:16.010 --> 00:16:16.210
- - DARRYL: NO, HE LOVED ME AS
- 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:17.120
- FAR AS--
- 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:17.220
- - ERIC: SO WHAT HAPPENED?
- 00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:18.110
- - DARRYL: HE LOVED ME
- 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:18.280
- UNCONDITIONALLY.
- 00:16:18.280 --> 00:16:19.120
- I THINK MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL
- 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.170
- SAID, "THAT'S IT," YOU KNOW.
- 00:16:20.170 --> 00:16:21.160
- - ERIC: MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL?
- 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:22.170
- - DARRYL: YEAH, I WAS SUSPENDED
- 00:16:22.170 --> 00:16:23.090
- FOR THAT.
- 00:16:23.090 --> 00:16:23.260
- THAT WAS THE THIRD TIME OF
- 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:24.180
- BEING SUSPENDED.
- 00:16:24.180 --> 00:16:25.080
- - ERIC: BECAUSE OF DRUGS?
- 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.010
- - DARRYL: OF DRUGS, DRUG USE,
- 00:16:27.010 --> 00:16:29.240
- YES, AND THEY BANNED ME FOR A
- 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.030
- YEAR, AND I JUST SAID,
- 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:31.200
- "I'M DONE."
- 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:32.020
- THAT WAS IT.
- 00:16:32.020 --> 00:16:32.140
- I KNEW--
- 00:16:32.140 --> 00:16:33.020
- - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THAT,
- 00:16:33.020 --> 00:16:33.220
- DARRYL?
- 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:34.020
- - DARRYL: I KNEW AFTER THE '99
- 00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:35.090
- SEASON, AFTER I PLAYED ON THE
- 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.240
- '99 TEAM AND WE WON, AND COMIN'
- 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.220
- BACK FOR THE 2000 YEAR, I FAILED
- 00:16:38.220 --> 00:16:39.210
- ANOTHER DRUG TEST, AND I KNEW
- 00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:40.280
- RIGHT THERE THAT IT WAS OVER,
- 00:16:40.280 --> 00:16:41.260
- YOU KNOW?
- 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:44.040
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHAT-- AT THAT
- 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:46.220
- POINT IN YOUR LIFE, I ASSUME
- 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:47.120
- YOU HAVE MONEY.
- 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.140
- YOU WERE ON YOUR SECOND WIFE?
- 00:16:49.140 --> 00:16:51.180
- - DARRYL: SECOND WIFE.
- 00:16:51.180 --> 00:16:54.040
- - ERIC: WAS THAT OKAY OR NOT?
- 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:55.150
- - DARRYL: NO, THAT WAS-- I
- 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:56.050
- DESTROYED THAT TOO.
- 00:16:56.050 --> 00:16:57.210
- I MEAN, I DESTROYED THE FIRST
- 00:16:57.210 --> 00:16:58.260
- ONE AND THE SECOND ONE.
- 00:16:58.260 --> 00:16:59.230
- I HURT TWO WOMEN AND A BUNCH OF
- 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.080
- KIDS BECAUSE I WAS SELFISH,
- 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.260
- SELF-CENTERED, AND I WAS LOST
- 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:07.230
- AND BROKEN, AND I WENT DOWN A
- 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:09.240
- REAL DARK ROAD, AND UNTIL THE
- 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.240
- THIRD WIFE, TRACY, CAME INTO MY
- 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:12.230
- LIFE, GOD USED HER TO
- 00:17:12.230 --> 00:17:14.040
- LEAD ME BACK.
- 00:17:14.040 --> 00:17:15.130
- - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?
- 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:16.170
- - DARRYL: THAT WAS IN, LIKE,
- 00:17:16.170 --> 00:17:18.070
- 2003, AFTER I GOT OUT OF PRISON.
- 00:17:18.070 --> 00:17:20.070
- I ENDED UP IN FLORIDA STATE
- 00:17:20.070 --> 00:17:21.140
- PRISON.
- 00:17:21.140 --> 00:17:21.290
- - ERIC: YOU KNOW SOMETHING?
- 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:22.190
- I FORGOT.
- 00:17:22.190 --> 00:17:25.040
- WHY DID YOU GO TO PRISON?
- 00:17:25.040 --> 00:17:27.040
- - DARRYL: ADDICTION.
- 00:17:27.040 --> 00:17:28.110
- I KEPT BREAKIN' THE RULES AND A
- 00:17:28.110 --> 00:17:30.230
- VIOLATION OF PROBATION, SO I
- 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:31.130
- STOOD IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE.
- 00:17:31.130 --> 00:17:34.090
- I SAID, "I'D JUST RATHER BE
- 00:17:34.090 --> 00:17:35.220
- DEAD," AND SHE SAYS, "WELL,
- 00:17:35.220 --> 00:17:36.120
- THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN."
- 00:17:36.120 --> 00:17:39.110
- SO SHE KEPT SENDIN' ME
- 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:39.280
- BACK TO JAIL.
- 00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:40.140
- I SAYS, "WELL--" THEY WANTED TO
- 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:41.290
- SEND ME TO ANOTHER TREATMENT
- 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:42.190
- CENTER, AND I SAID, "I DON'T
- 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:43.220
- WANNA GO TO TREATMENT ANYMORE."
- 00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:44.240
- I SAID, "JUST LOCK ME UP."
- 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:45.190
- AND THEY SENT ME TO A FLORIDA
- 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:46.240
- STATE PRISON.
- 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:47.070
- - ERIC: DID YOU THINK YOU
- 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:47.260
- MIGHT DIE?
- 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:48.150
- - DARRYL: I WANTED TO.
- 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:50.220
- - ERIC: YOU WANTED TO DIE?
- 00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:51.230
- - DARRYL: YES, BUT GOD BROUGHT
- 00:17:51.230 --> 00:17:53.160
- TRACY IN MY LIFE, AND I-- SHE
- 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.110
- WAS PULLIN' ME OUT OF DOPE
- 00:17:55.110 --> 00:17:56.100
- HOUSES IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
- 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.280
- - ERIC: SHE WAS PULLING YOU OUT
- 00:17:57.280 --> 00:17:58.200
- OF DOPE HOUSES IN SOUTH FLORIDA?
- 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.130
- - DARRYL: I WAS SHOOTIN'
- 00:18:01.130 --> 00:18:02.190
- DOPE AND SMOKIN' CRACK.
- 00:18:02.190 --> 00:18:03.070
- - ERIC: THAT WOMAN OVER THERE,
- 00:18:03.070 --> 00:18:03.290
- TALKIN' TO MY WIFE?
- 00:18:03.290 --> 00:18:04.240
- - DARRYL: YES, SHE WAS--
- 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:05.130
- - ERIC: NOW, YOU MET IN-- SHE
- 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:06.140
- WAS ALSO IN RECOVERY, CORRECT?
- 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:07.130
- WE MET AT A CONVENTION, AN NA
- 00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:12.130
- CONVENTION, AND SHE HAD ONE YEAR
- 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:13.130
- CLEAN, AND I HAD, LIKE, FIVE
- 00:18:13.130 --> 00:18:14.140
- SECONDS CLEAN.
- 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:15.250
- I HAD JUST COME BACK FROM, LIKE,
- 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:17.000
- A SIX-DAY BINGE OF SMOKIN'
- 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.160
- AND I WAS AT THE CONVENTION, BUT
- 00:18:21.020 --> 00:18:21.240
- SOME OF MY SPONSEES AND-- OR
- 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.200
- SPONSEES BROTHERS AND I MET HER,
- 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:25.120
- AND I TOLD HER SHE DIDN'T
- 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:26.180
- WANNA-- I SAID, "YOU DON'T WANNA
- 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:27.100
- GET INVOLVED WITH ME.
- 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:28.010
- I'M DANGEROUS."
- 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:28.160
- AND SHE DID,
- 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.010
- AND SHE SAW HOW DANGEROUS I
- 00:18:30.010 --> 00:18:31.280
- REALLY WAS.
- 00:18:31.280 --> 00:18:33.130
- I WAS VERY SICK, AND THEN I
- 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:36.040
- STARTED SHOOTING DOPE AND--
- 00:18:36.040 --> 00:18:37.160
- - ERIC: SO AFTER YOU MET TRACY,
- 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.210
- YOU WERE STILL-- YOU WERE
- 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:39.290
- SHOOTING DOPE?
- 00:18:39.290 --> 00:18:41.210
- - DARRYL: YEAH, I STARTED
- 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:42.100
- SHOOTING DOPE.
- 00:18:42.100 --> 00:18:42.250
- - ERIC: NOW, WHEN YOU SAY,
- 00:18:42.250 --> 00:18:44.050
- "SHOOTING DOPE," WHAT ARE WE
- 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:45.090
- TALKIN' ABOUT-- HEROIN?
- 00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:45.270
- - DARRYL: HEROIN.
- 00:18:45.270 --> 00:18:46.130
- - ERIC: THAT-- YOU KNOW, IT'S
- 00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:47.230
- AN AMAZING THING.
- 00:18:47.230 --> 00:18:48.190
- I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU-- I DON'T
- 00:18:48.190 --> 00:18:50.060
- KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY, BUT
- 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:51.170
- WHEN YOU GO TO THAT LEVEL OF
- 00:18:51.170 --> 00:18:54.070
- SHOOTING HEROIN, I MEAN, YOU
- 00:18:54.070 --> 00:18:55.230
- HADN'T BEEN SHOOTING HEROIN.
- 00:18:55.230 --> 00:18:57.070
- WHAT PUSHES YOU TO THAT?
- 00:18:57.070 --> 00:18:58.220
- IS IT JUST STILL THE SAME PAIN?
- 00:18:58.220 --> 00:18:59.290
- YOU JUST WANT TO KILL THE PAIN?
- 00:19:00.050 --> 00:19:03.050
- - DARRYL: YES, IT'S STILL--
- 00:19:03.050 --> 00:19:05.130
- YOU'RE STILL TRYIN' TO FILL THE
- 00:19:05.130 --> 00:19:06.130
- VOID THAT'S INSIDE, THE
- 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:07.050
- EMPTINESS ON THE INSIDE.
- 00:19:07.050 --> 00:19:07.240
- I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH
- 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.180
- AN EPIDEMIC TODAY WITH OPIATES
- 00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:11.210
- AND HEROIN ADDICTION, WHY YOUNG
- 00:19:11.210 --> 00:19:12.230
- PEOPLE ARE DYIN'.
- 00:19:12.230 --> 00:19:14.120
- IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PAIN THAT'S
- 00:19:14.120 --> 00:19:16.190
- INSIDE, AND THEY NEVER DEAL WITH
- 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:18.090
- WHAT HAPPENED TO 'EM.
- 00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:20.000
- AND TRACY CAME INTO MY LIFE, AND
- 00:19:20.030 --> 00:19:23.030
- GOD USED HER FOR ME TO DEAL WITH
- 00:19:23.030 --> 00:19:24.120
- WHAT HAPPENED, AND I HAD TO DEAL
- 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:26.160
- WITH IT, AND ONCE I FACED IT AND
- 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:28.190
- DEALT WITH IT, AND ONCE I WENT
- 00:19:28.190 --> 00:19:30.230
- BACK TO MY FATHER, WHO WAS IN
- 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:32.120
- THE HOSPITAL, WHEN THE LORD SENT
- 00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:33.260
- ME, I WAS IN CALIFORNIA TO GO
- 00:19:33.260 --> 00:19:35.000
- MEN'S CONFERENCE.
- 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.090
- THE LORD SENT ME TO THE HOSPITAL
- 00:19:37.090 --> 00:19:38.100
- TO GO SEE MY FATHER AND MAKE ME
- 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:39.030
- GO REPENT TO HIM.
- 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:41.000
- - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THIS?
- 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:41.280
- - DARRYL: THAT WAS IN--
- 00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:43.260
- SOMEWHERE IN 2006, WELL, RIGHT
- 00:19:43.260 --> 00:19:44.280
- AFTER MY TRANSFORMATION.
- 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:47.110
- - ERIC: SO THE TRANSFORMATION,
- 00:19:47.110 --> 00:19:48.250
- WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE?
- 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:50.040
- IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WERE-- YOU
- 00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:51.100
- MEET TRACY.
- 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:52.110
- YOU'RE STILL STRUGGLING
- 00:19:52.110 --> 00:19:54.100
- HORRIBLY.
- 00:19:54.100 --> 00:19:55.100
- HOW DOES SHE MANAGED TO GET YOU
- 00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:56.270
- TO SEE SOMETHING YOU HAD NOT
- 00:19:56.270 --> 00:19:58.050
- SEEN IN ALL THOSE YEARS?
- 00:19:58.050 --> 00:19:59.220
- - DARRYL: WELL, I-- 'CAUSE WE
- 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:01.160
- WERE TOGETHER, AND THEN SHE WOKE
- 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.090
- UP ONE DAY, AND SHE SAYS, "I
- 00:20:03.090 --> 00:20:04.160
- DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA
- 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:05.180
- DO," 'CAUSE I WAS AT THE BOTTOM.
- 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:06.230
- I WAS THREE MILLION IN DEBT AND
- 00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:08.080
- DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
- 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:09.090
- WE WERE LIVIN' IN HER PARENTS'
- 00:20:09.090 --> 00:20:10.150
- HOUSE, AND SHE WOKE UP ONE DAY
- 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:11.270
- AND SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT
- 00:20:11.270 --> 00:20:12.230
- YOU'RE GONNA DO, BUT I'M GON'
- 00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:13.250
- FOLLOW JESUS."
- 00:20:13.250 --> 00:20:14.210
- - ERIC: NOW, HAD SHE BEEN A
- 00:20:14.210 --> 00:20:15.200
- CHRISTIAN BEFORE THAT?
- 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.210
- - DARRYL: NO, SHE HAD JUST
- 00:20:16.210 --> 00:20:17.240
- BECOME IN A RELATIONSHIP
- 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.120
- WITH CHRIST.
- 00:20:18.120 --> 00:20:19.040
- SHE WAS JUST STARTING.
- 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:20.010
- - ERIC: SO WHILE YOU GUYS WERE
- 00:20:20.010 --> 00:20:21.040
- TOGETHER, SHE FOUND JESUS?
- 00:20:21.040 --> 00:20:22.280
- - DARRYL: SHE FOUND CHRIST.
- 00:20:22.280 --> 00:20:24.080
- - ERIC: AND HOW DID THAT
- 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:24.270
- HAPPEN FOR HER?
- 00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:25.130
- - DARRYL: WELL, SHE GOT
- 00:20:25.130 --> 00:20:26.270
- INTRODUCED TO JESUS THROUGH
- 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:28.030
- SOMEONE IN A AA PROGRAM.
- 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:30.190
- A WOMAN BROUGHT HER TO A BIBLE
- 00:20:31.040 --> 00:20:34.040
- STUDY, AND SHE FOUND THE LORD.
- 00:20:34.040 --> 00:20:36.170
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO NOW SHE FINDS
- 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:38.080
- THE LORD, AND NOW SHE SAYS, "I
- 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:40.150
- DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GON' DO,
- 00:20:40.150 --> 00:20:41.290
- BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW JESUS"?
- 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:43.040
- - DARRYL: SHE SAID, YEAH, "I
- 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:44.050
- DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO,
- 00:20:44.050 --> 00:20:44.270
- BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW JESUS,"
- 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:45.250
- AND I SAID, "WELL," I SAID, "I
- 00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:46.250
- DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
- 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:48.130
- I'MMA DO."
- 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:49.060
- I SAID, "WELL, I THINK I'M
- 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:49.270
- OUT OF HERE.
- 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:50.150
- I'M GONNA LEAVE," AND SHE SAYS,
- 00:20:50.150 --> 00:20:52.150
- "WELL, I THINK YOU NEED
- 00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:53.030
- TO DO THAT."
- 00:20:53.030 --> 00:20:53.210
- AND I LEFT.
- 00:20:53.210 --> 00:20:54.240
- I DECIDED TO LEAVE, AND WE BROKE
- 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.160
- OFF THE RELATIONSHIP.
- 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.240
- WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'D BE BACK
- 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.160
- TOGETHER OR NOT, AND IT WAS--
- 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.140
- THE LORD SENT ME AWAY FOR
- 00:20:59.140 --> 00:21:01.040
- SIX MONTHS.
- 00:21:01.040 --> 00:21:01.190
- - ERIC: RIGHT.
- 00:21:01.190 --> 00:21:02.290
- - DARRYL: AND I CAME TO
- 00:21:02.290 --> 00:21:04.050
- CALIFORNIA, STAYED WITH MY
- 00:21:04.050 --> 00:21:06.170
- SISTER AND HER TWO KIDS, AND I
- 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:07.120
- REMEMBER THE FIRST NIGHT I GOT
- 00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:09.250
- TO THE HOUSE, I TOOK MY BIBLE
- 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:11.210
- OUT AND WAS ABOUT TO OPEN IT AND
- 00:21:11.210 --> 00:21:14.200
- GOT DOWN ON MY KNEES, AND THE
- 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.230
- LORD SAID, "DON'T OPEN
- 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:17.140
- THAT BIBLE."
- 00:21:17.140 --> 00:21:18.070
- AND THE LORD SAID,
- 00:21:18.070 --> 00:21:19.180
- "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU."
- 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:21.200
- - ERIC: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
- 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:22.090
- HOW DID YOU KNOW THE LORD
- 00:21:22.090 --> 00:21:22.280
- SAID THAT?
- 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:24.230
- - DARRYL: BECAUSE I KNOW
- 00:21:24.230 --> 00:21:25.160
- HIS VOICE.
- 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:26.250
- - ERIC: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU
- 00:21:26.250 --> 00:21:27.160
- "KNOW HIS VOICE"?
- 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:28.100
- YOU HEARD A VOICE?
- 00:21:28.100 --> 00:21:29.290
- - DARRYL: YOU'LL KNOW
- 00:21:29.290 --> 00:21:30.210
- HIS VOICE.
- 00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:31.060
- YOU KNOW HE'S THE LORD.
- 00:21:31.060 --> 00:21:32.160
- YOU KNOW HIS VOICE.
- 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:33.070
- IT'S JUST BECAUSE-- AS A
- 00:21:35.050 --> 00:21:38.050
- CHRISTIAN, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE
- 00:21:38.050 --> 00:21:39.220
- NOT HEARD FROM THE LORD AND
- 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:41.000
- YOU'VE BEEN BORN AGAIN AND YOU
- 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.080
- GO THROUGH SOME STRUGGLES AND
- 00:21:42.080 --> 00:21:44.180
- SOME TIME, THEN WHEN THE
- 00:21:44.180 --> 00:21:46.100
- LORD FINALLY DECIDES TO STOP
- 00:21:46.100 --> 00:21:47.190
- YOU, HE SPEAKS, OKAY?
- 00:21:47.190 --> 00:21:48.140
- - ERIC: SO YOU'RE ON
- 00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:51.170
- YOUR KNEES.
- 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:52.050
- THE LORD SPOKE TO YOU.
- 00:21:52.050 --> 00:21:52.290
- - DARRYL: OH, HE SPOKE TO ME.
- 00:21:52.290 --> 00:21:54.020
- - ERIC: WHY'D HE TELL YOU NOT
- 00:21:54.020 --> 00:21:54.230
- TO OPEN THE BIBLE?
- 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:55.080
- THAT'S FUNNY.
- 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:57.010
- - DARRYL: HE SAID, "DON'T OPEN
- 00:21:57.010 --> 00:21:57.230
- YOUR BIBLE."
- 00:21:57.230 --> 00:21:58.070
- HE SAYS, "I'VE BEEN
- 00:21:58.070 --> 00:21:58.230
- WAITING FOR YOU."
- 00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:00.040
- AND I JUST LOST IT.
- 00:22:00.040 --> 00:22:02.160
- - ERIC: IT'S SO AMAZING TO ME
- 00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:05.170
- THAT GOD WOULD SAY THAT, THAT HE
- 00:22:05.170 --> 00:22:07.230
- COMMUNICATES THAT SO TENDERLY.
- 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:09.100
- IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
- 00:22:09.100 --> 00:22:11.220
- IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
- 00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:14.050
- - DARRYL: IT'S HIS LOVE.
- 00:22:14.050 --> 00:22:14.240
- I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, ERIC,
- 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.000
- WHAT HAPPENS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE
- 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.040
- THEY DON'T SHUT THEIR BRAIN OFF.
- 00:22:22.170 --> 00:22:23.090
- YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHUT YOUR MIND
- 00:22:23.090 --> 00:22:25.160
- OFF, GOD IS ALWAYS SPEAKING, BUT
- 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.060
- IT'S THOSE THAT SHUT THEIR MIND
- 00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:29.230
- AND I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES,
- 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.210
- PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT 'CAUSE
- 00:22:35.210 --> 00:22:36.110
- YOU KNOW WHAT?
- 00:22:36.110 --> 00:22:37.000
- YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND OUT BY
- 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:37.200
- MYSELF WHY I WAS NEVER
- 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:38.070
- HEARING FROM GOD?
- 00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:38.240
- BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS TOO BUSY.
- 00:22:39.090 --> 00:22:42.090
- I WAS ALWAYS IN A HURRY TO GO
- 00:22:42.090 --> 00:22:44.290
- NOWHERE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
- 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:48.020
- HAPPENS TO SO MANY OF US.
- 00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:50.290
- WE'RE IN A HURRY TO GO NOWHERE,
- 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:51.230
- AND WE DON'T SPEND
- 00:22:51.230 --> 00:22:53.000
- TIME WITH GOD.
- 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.140
- 'CAUSE GOD SPEAKS.
- 00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:57.010
- - ERIC: I'M FEELING--
- 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:58.020
- I'M COMING UNDER THE
- 00:22:58.020 --> 00:22:58.180
- POWER OF CONVICTION
- 00:22:58.180 --> 00:22:59.100
- RIGHT NOW, BROTHER.
- 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:00.080
- [LAUGHTER]
- 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:01.200
- THAT IS-- NO, WHAT YOU JUST
- 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:02.100
- SAID, I MEAN, IT'S SO OBVIOUSLY
- 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:03.060
- TRUE, BUT IT'S JUST INTERESTING
- 00:23:03.060 --> 00:23:04.030
- THE WAY YOU JUST PUT IT.
- 00:23:04.030 --> 00:23:05.100
- SO GOD SPEAKS TO YOU, "I'VE BEEN
- 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:08.220
- WAITING FOR YOU."
- 00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:09.140
- THIS IS, LIKE,
- 00:23:09.140 --> 00:23:10.070
- 2007, '06, '05?
- 00:23:10.070 --> 00:23:13.060
- - DARRYL: YEAH, '06, AT THE
- 00:23:13.060 --> 00:23:14.050
- BEGINNING OF ME AND TRACY
- 00:23:14.050 --> 00:23:14.240
- GETTING BACK TOGETHER.
- 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:16.010
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHAT
- 00:23:16.010 --> 00:23:16.180
- HAPPENS NOW?
- 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:17.060
- - DARRYL: WELL, I LAY WITH HIM
- 00:23:17.060 --> 00:23:18.150
- AND SATURATE MYSELF IN THE WORD
- 00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:19.220
- FOR SIX MONTHS.
- 00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:20.270
- - ERIC: APART FROM TRACY?
- 00:23:20.270 --> 00:23:22.160
- - DARRYL: APART FROM TRACY,
- 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.200
- APART FROM DRUGS, APART FROM
- 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:24.200
- WOMEN, SEX, EVERYTHING.
- 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.210
- FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I STOPPED
- 00:23:26.210 --> 00:23:27.210
- EVERYTHING FOR SIX MONTHS, AND
- 00:23:27.210 --> 00:23:30.160
- IT WAS JUST ME AND GOD AND THE
- 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.110
- WORD, AND I WAS GOIN' TO CHURCH
- 00:23:32.110 --> 00:23:33.030
- TWO OR THREE TIMES OUT
- 00:23:33.030 --> 00:23:33.200
- OF THE WEEK.
- 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:34.170
- I WAS GOIN', HELP FEED
- 00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:35.040
- THE HOMELESS.
- 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:35.190
- HE SAID, "GET OVER YOURSELF.
- 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:36.090
- GET UP.
- 00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:36.200
- DO SOMETHIN' DIFFERENT."
- 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.170
- I HAD NOTHIN'.
- 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:40.090
- I HAD NO MONEY, HAD NO
- 00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:42.180
- DRIVER'S LICENSE.
- 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.030
- DRIVIN' MY SISTER'S CAR BACK AND
- 00:23:45.030 --> 00:23:45.270
- FORTH TO CHURCH, NO LICENSE, NO
- 00:23:45.270 --> 00:23:47.030
- MONEY, JUST STARTED DOIN' IT,
- 00:23:47.050 --> 00:23:50.050
- AND THEN SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS
- 00:23:50.050 --> 00:23:52.080
- OF LAYIN' WITH HIM IN THE WORD,
- 00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:54.050
- HE STARTED-- "SUPERNATURALLY,"
- 00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:57.100
- HE SAYS, "SATURATE YOURSELF
- 00:23:57.100 --> 00:23:58.050
- IN THE WORD.
- 00:23:58.050 --> 00:23:59.240
- "THE HOLY SPIRIT,
- 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:00.230
- SUPERNATURALLY, IS GON' TEACH
- 00:24:00.230 --> 00:24:01.160
- YOU THE WORD OF GOD," AND I LAID
- 00:24:03.080 --> 00:24:06.080
- WITH HIM FOR SIX MONTHS, AND,
- 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:07.010
- SUPERNATURALLY, THE HOLY SPIRIT
- 00:24:07.010 --> 00:24:07.270
- STARTED TEACHING ME THE BIBLE.
- 00:24:07.270 --> 00:24:10.070
- THEN HE SAYS, "GO BACK AND MARRY
- 00:24:10.070 --> 00:24:11.000
- TRACY AND START," AND WE STARTED
- 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.140
- WITH NOTHIN', ME AND HER, $3
- 00:24:12.140 --> 00:24:14.000
- MILLION IN DEBT.
- 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.170
- - ERIC: YOU HAD LESS THAN
- 00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:17.060
- NOTHING, $3 MILLION IN DEBT.
- 00:24:17.060 --> 00:24:17.260
- - DARRYL: YEAH, I CAME WITH
- 00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:18.160
- $3 MILLION IN DEBT.
- 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.220
- SHE GOES, "YOU GON' HAVE TO
- 00:24:19.220 --> 00:24:20.120
- CLEAN ALL THIS UP."
- 00:24:20.120 --> 00:24:20.280
- - ERIC: YOU NEEDED TO GET $3
- 00:24:20.280 --> 00:24:21.190
- MILLION TO HAVE NOTHING, RIGHT?
- 00:24:21.190 --> 00:24:22.110
- - DARRYL: I KNOW.
- 00:24:22.110 --> 00:24:22.260
- - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU ARE-- SO
- 00:24:22.260 --> 00:24:23.220
- YOU GET MARRIED.
- 00:24:23.270 --> 00:24:26.270
- OBVIOUSLY, SHE'S WALKIN'
- 00:24:26.270 --> 00:24:27.190
- WITH GOD.
- 00:24:27.190 --> 00:24:28.250
- IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, AT THAT
- 00:24:28.250 --> 00:24:30.150
- POINT, YOU'RE GOOD.
- 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:32.270
- - DARRYL: NO, I MEAN,
- 00:24:32.270 --> 00:24:35.050
- IT'S THE PROCESS.
- 00:24:35.050 --> 00:24:35.200
- IT'S THE PROCESS OF GOIN'-- WHEN
- 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:36.220
- HE BROUGHT ME AND TRACY
- 00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:39.180
- TOGETHER, HE MADE ME SIT IN THE
- 00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:40.100
- BACK OF THE CHURCH,
- 00:24:40.100 --> 00:24:40.290
- NOT THE FRONT.
- 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:42.220
- HE SAID, "I WANT YOU IN
- 00:24:42.220 --> 00:24:43.100
- THE BACK."
- 00:24:43.100 --> 00:24:44.130
- HE SAT ME FOR SEVEN YEARS
- 00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:45.230
- BECAUSE OF DISCIPLESHIP.
- 00:24:45.230 --> 00:24:47.150
- HE DID NOT MOVE ME FOR
- 00:24:47.150 --> 00:24:50.060
- SEVEN YEARS.
- 00:24:50.060 --> 00:24:50.180
- - ERIC: WHAT CITY WERE YOU IN?
- 00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:51.160
- - DARRYL: SAINT LOUIS.
- 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.040
- - ERIC: SO, OKAY, THAT'S WHERE
- 00:24:52.040 --> 00:24:52.280
- YOU ARE NOW.
- 00:24:52.280 --> 00:24:53.100
- - DARRYL: WE SAT FOR
- 00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:53.270
- SEVEN YEARS.
- 00:24:53.270 --> 00:24:54.090
- WE HEAD OFF AT SEVEN YEARS.
- 00:24:54.090 --> 00:24:55.290
- PEOPLE WAS WONDERIN',
- 00:24:55.290 --> 00:24:56.160
- "WHERE IS HE?
- 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.110
- WHAT IS HE DOING?"
- 00:24:57.110 --> 00:24:58.250
- AND PEOPLE WERE CONTACTIN'--
- 00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:00.260
- OTHER AGENTS SAID, "WELL, WE
- 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:02.180
- WANNA DO A STORY.
- 00:25:02.180 --> 00:25:04.000
- WE WANNA DO A BOOK."
- 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:04.240
- TRACY WAS LIKE, "NO,
- 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.210
- WE'RE NOT DOING STORIES,
- 00:25:05.210 --> 00:25:06.250
- BOOK."
- 00:25:06.250 --> 00:25:08.220
- AND, I MEAN, SUPERNATURALLY,
- 00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:09.170
- HE JUST-- I
- 00:25:09.170 --> 00:25:10.130
- MEAN, THE BIBLE JUST, "POOF,"
- 00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:11.270
- STARTED COMIN' ALIVE AND, YOU
- 00:25:11.270 --> 00:25:14.110
- KNOW, SCRIPTURES SUPERNATURALLY
- 00:25:14.110 --> 00:25:16.220
- STARTED RETAINING INSIDE OF ME,
- 00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:17.260
- AND I STARTED, YOU KNOW,
- 00:25:18.050 --> 00:25:21.050
- SPEAKIN' A DIFFERENT WAY AND
- 00:25:21.050 --> 00:25:22.180
- TALKIN' ABOUT THE KINGDOM AND
- 00:25:22.180 --> 00:25:23.190
- TALKIN' ABOUT WHAT IT SOWS, AND
- 00:25:23.250 --> 00:25:26.250
- BEFORE I KNEW IT, GOD STARTED
- 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:27.190
- SENDIN' ME THIS PLACE, THAT
- 00:25:27.190 --> 00:25:29.010
- PLACE, AND NOW HE SENDS
- 00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:31.210
- ME EVERYWHERE.
- 00:25:33.090 --> 00:25:36.090
- - ERIC: WELL, I WANNA ASK YOU,
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- YOU MENTIONED THE THING
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- WITH YOUR DAD.
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- I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT, AFTER
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- EVERYTHING YOU WENT THROUGH WITH
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- HIM, YOU SAID THAT GOD SENT YOU
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- TO HIS HOSPITAL BED.
- 00:25:42.120 --> 00:25:44.000
- - DARRYL: SENT ME TO HIS
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- HOSPITAL BED AND MADE ME REPENT
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- TO HIM, FOR ME KEEPIN' HIM
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- OUT OF MY LIFE.
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- GOD SAYS, "HOW DARE YOU NOT
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- FORGIVE HIM, AND I FORGAVE YOU."
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- AND I WENT AND REPENTED TO HIM,
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- AND MY FATHER SAID, "YES."
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- I SAID, "I WAS WRONG.
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- WILL YOU FORGIVE ME?"
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- HE SAID, "YES," AND A TEAR CAME
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- OUT HIS EYE.
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- AND I SAID, "I'M SORRY FOR
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- KEEPIN' YOU OUT OF MY LIFE IN MY
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- WHOLE CAREER," AND I
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- JUST LOST IT.
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- I LAID IN HIS LAP-- CRIED, JUST,
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- LOST IT, JUST SOBBIN'.
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- THEN GOD SAYS, "RAISE UP,"
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- AND I RAISED UP,
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- AND GOD SAYS,
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- "LEAD HIM TO ME RIGHT NOW."
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- AND THERE WAS--
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- - ERIC: THE LORD TOLD YOU TO
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- LEAD YOUR FATHER TO HIMSELF?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH.
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- HE SAID-- I SAID, "YOU KNOW THE
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- LORD HAS CHANGED MY LIFE, AND
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- I'M A DIFFERENT PERSON?"
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- HE'S LIKE, "YEAH."
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- I SAID, "WOULD YOU LIKE TO
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- ACCEPT HIM AS LORD
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- OF YOUR LIFE?"
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- HE SAID, "YES."
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- I LED HIM IN THE SINNER'S
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- PRAYER TO THE LORD.
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- - ERIC: THIS IS CALLED "A HAPPY
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- ENDING," DARRYL.
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- - DARRYL: IT'S A VERY
- 00:26:32.120 --> 00:26:33.210
- HAPPY ENDING.
- 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:34.050
- - ERIC: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
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- I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.
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- I DID NOT REALIZE THIS.
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, VERY
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- HAPPY ENDING.
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- THAT'S A VERY HAPPY ENDING WITH
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- WHO GOD IS.
- 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.040
- - ERIC: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL
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- 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU
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- KNOW-- THAT YOUR PARENTS PASS
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- AWAY, YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT.
- 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:46.240
- - DARRYL: YEAH, I WAS ABLE TO
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- DO THAT WITH HIM.
- 00:26:47.230 --> 00:26:48.180
- - ERIC: TO HAVE THAT, WHAT A
- 00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.130
- GIFT FROM GOD TO YOU AND
- 00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:50.010
- - DARRYL: I WAS ABLE TO LEAD MY
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- WHOLE FAMILY TO THE LORD.
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- OUTSIDE OF MY MOM, I LED
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- MY SISTERS.
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- - ERIC: YOUR MOM WAS
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- ALREADY THERE?
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- - DARRYL: YEAH, MY MOM WAS
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- MY TWO SISTERS AND MY TWO
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- BROTHERS, GOD USED ME TO LEAD
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- THEM TO COME BACK.
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- - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
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- - DARRYL: SO I'M FOREVER
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- - ERIC: WELL, I HOPE YOU
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- ENJOYED MY CONVERSATION WITH
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- DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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- AMAZING, I FIND IT AMAZING.
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- PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT
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- THE SHOW, AND STAY TUNED RIGHT
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- NOW TO SEE WHO MY GUESTS
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