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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show
November 22, 2019
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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show

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  • [WHOOSH]
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  • [WHOOSH]
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • - MALE: HEY.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • [BOINK]
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  • [ENGINE REVVING]
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  • [BRAKES SQUEALING]
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  • [CRASH]
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  • [CHEERS]
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  • - ERIC METAXAS: HEY, FOLKS,
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  • THIS IS "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW,"
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  • AND YOU GUESSED IT: I'M
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  • ERIC METAXAS.
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  • NOT LONG AGO, I WAS IN
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  • CALIFORNIA WITH MY DEAR FRIEND
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  • GREG LAURIE AT HIS HARVEST
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  • AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WAS
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY, ONE OF THE
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  • GREATEST ATHLETES OF THE
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  • MODERN ERA.
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  • I WAS A METS FAN, GROWING UP.
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  • I WAS SO HONORED TO MEET HIM AND
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  • SIT DOWN WITH HIM FOR WHAT YOU
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  • WILL SOON SEE WAS AN INCREDIBLY
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  • SUBSTANTIVE, IMPORTANT
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  • CONVERSATION.
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  • HIS STORY IS NOTHING LESS THAN
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  • AMAZING, AND HERE IT IS.
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  • - ERIC: OKAY, HOLY COW, THIS IS
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  • "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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  • I CANNOT BELIEVE I'VE NEVER
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  • DONE A SHOW OUTDOORS BEFORE,
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  • BUT I'LL DO ALMOST ANYTHING
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  • TO GET TO TALK TO
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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  • DARRYL, IS THAT REALLY YOU?
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  • IS THIS YOU?
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  • - DARRYL STRAWBERRY: WELCOME TO
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  • DOIN' THE SHOW OUTSIDE.
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  • IT'S PRETTY COOL, RIGHT?
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  • - ERIC: LET ME TELL YA
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  • SOMETHING.
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  • MY FIRST SHOW OUT OF DOORS,
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  • BROTHER--
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  • - DARRYL: IT'S DIFFERENT,
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  • RIGHT?
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  • - ERIC: THIS IS AMAZING.
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  • WE'RE AT ANGEL STADIUM,
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  • BY THE WAY.
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  • I SHOULD MAKE THAT CLEAR.
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  • WE'RE AT ANGEL STADIUM.
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  • PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING, MOST
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  • OF THE PEOPLE, I THINK,
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  • LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM WILL
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  • KNOW WHO DARRYL STRAWBERRY IS,
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  • BUT THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE WHO
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  • WILL BE LISTENING WHO WILL NOT
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  • KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SO I'M GONNA
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  • TELL 'EM.
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  • YOU ARE A SOMEBODY THAT, WHEN
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  • ANYBODY WAS A METS FAN OR A
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  • YANKEES FAN, LIKE, YOUR NAME IS
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  • AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
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  • SO WHERE DO I EVEN START
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  • WITH YOU?
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  • WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
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  • I GREW UP RIGHT HERE IN
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  • LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA.
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  • - ERIC: YOU GREW UP IN
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  • LOS ANGELES.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
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  • - ERIC: WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT
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  • YOU WANTED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL
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  • - DARRYL: I THINK WHEN I WAS
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  • YOUNG, WHEN I WAS AROUND 13
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  • YEARS OLD, 13, 14 YEARS OLD.
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  • - ERIC: YOU KNEW THAT,
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  • THAT EARLY?
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  • - DARRYL: I KNEW IN THE BACK OF
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  • MY MIND BECAUSE I CAME FROM A
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  • BROKEN SITUATION, DYSFUNCTIONAL
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  • MY DAD WAS A RAGING ALCOHOLIC,
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  • AND HE USED TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT
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  • OF ME AND SAID I'D NEVER AMOUNT
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  • TO NOTHIN', SO I KIND OF
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  • BELIEVED IT, SO MY PAIN LED ME
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  • TO MY GREATNESS, BUT MY
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  • GREATNESS WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAD
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  • ME TO MY DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR
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  • BECAUSE I NEVER GOT WELL
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  • ON THE INSIDE.
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  • SO WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD, I
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  • STARTED WATCHING BASEBALL.
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  • I STARTED WATCHING THE DODGERS
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  • AND THE CINCINNATI REDS, AND
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  • THEN I SAW NUMBER 14 THAT PLAYED
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  • FOR THE CINCINNATI REDS, AND HIS
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  • NAME WAS PETE ROSE, AND I
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  • STARTED REALLY IDOLIZIN' WHO HE
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  • WAS BECAUSE HE WASN'T THIS
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  • OUTSTANDING BASEBALL PLAYER,
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  • BUT HIS EFFORT AND
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  • HIS HUSTLE--
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  • - ERIC: AND THERE'S NO
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  • QUESTION, THE "BIG RED MACHINE,"
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  • PETE ROSE WAS SUPERHUMAN,
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  • REALLY.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU
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  • KNOW, HIS UNIFORM WAS ALWAYS
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  • DIRTY, AND I JUST THOUGHT TO
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  • MYSELF, "THAT'S WHAT A BASEBALL
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  • PLAYER IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE:
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  • HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A
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  • DIRTY UNIFORM."
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  • AND YOU SEE HIM DIVE INTO
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  • BASES AND HEADFIRST, AND I
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  • JUST THOUGHT HE WAS PHENOMENAL.
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  • I'D EVENTUALLY GO ON TO BE A
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  • HOME-RUN HITTER, BUT I LEARNED
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  • TO STEAL BASES.
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  • I LEARNED TO SCORE RUNS.
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  • YOU KNOW, I LEARNED TO DO IT ALL
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  • BECAUSE OF WATCHIN' PETE ROSE,
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  • THE WAY HE PLAYED.
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  • - ERIC: WHAT'S THE MOST BASES
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  • YOU STOLE IN A SEASON?
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  • - DARRYL: THIRTY-SIX,
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  • I BELIEVE.
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  • I WENT 30-30.
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  • - ERIC: SO YOU WERE IN THE
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  • FABLED CLUB, THE 30-30 CLUB,
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  • RIGHT?
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I'M IN THE
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  • 30-30 CLUB.
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  • I HIT 39 HOME RUNS, 36 BACK,
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  • SOMETHIN' LIKE THAT
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  • IN TOTAL.
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  • - ERIC: AND WHAT'S THE MOST
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  • HOME RUNS YOU HIT IN A SEASON?
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  • - DARRYL: THIRTY-NINE.
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  • - ERIC: I GOTTA SAY, I MEAN,
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  • YOU WERE A PHENOMENON IN
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  • YOUR DAY.
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  • I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE
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  • UNDERSTAND THAT YOU STRUGGLED
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  • WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
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  • YOU WERE ONE OF THE GREATEST
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  • ATHLETES ALIVE, AND IN THE
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  • MIDDLE OF THAT, YOU STARTED
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  • DEALING WITH THE
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  • SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
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  • I MEAN, WHEN DID YOU ENTER THE
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  • MAJOR LEAGUES?
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  • - DARRYL: WELL, I ENTERED THE
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  • MAJOR LEAGUES AT 1983.
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  • I CAME IN, AND I WAS ROOKIE OF
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  • THE YEAR, THAT YEAR, BUT I
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  • STRUGGLED WAY BEFORE THAT.
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  • - ERIC: ALREADY?
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I STRUGGLED.
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  • I STRUGGLED WHEN I WAS 14.
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  • I WAS SMOKIN' MARIJUANA WHEN
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  • I WAS 14.
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  • I WAS DRINKIN' ALCOHOL, COLT 45,
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  • WHEN I WAS 14, 15 YEARS OLD.
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  • - ERIC: IN OTHER WORDS, A LOT
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  • OF PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT ONCE
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  • YOU-- YOU KNOW, YOUR CAREER GETS
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  • GOING AND STUFF, YOU'D LEAVE IT
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  • ALONE, BUT YOU DID NOT?
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  • - DARRYL: NO, IT INCREASED.
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  • YOU CROSS OVER TO THE
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  • NEXT LEVEL.
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  • THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS
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  • IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS THAT GUYS
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  • CROSS OVER AND--
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  • - ERIC: I ASSUME THAT THERE
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  • WERE OTHER GUYS ON THOSE TEAMS
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  • ALSO USING DRUGS AS
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  • AN ENHANCEMENT?
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  • - DARRYL: A LOT OF GUYS WEREN'T
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  • USIN' ENHANCIN' DRUGS,
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  • BUT WE'LL USE RECREATION DRUGS.
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  • I MEAN, IT WAS A LOT
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  • OF DRINKIN'.
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  • COME ON, YOU'RE PLAYIN'
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  • IN NEW YORK CITY,
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  • YOU BECOME THE, LIKE,
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  • THE GREATEST TEAM, PLAYIN' IN
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  • NEW YORK CITY IN THE '80s,
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  • THE METS.
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  • YOU KNOW, WE GO ON TO WIN THE
  • 00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:47.240
  • WORLD SERIES IN '86.
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  • WE SHOULD'VE WON MORE.
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  • - ERIC: LET ME ASK YOU THOUGH,
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  • SO YOU'RE PLAYING-- MOST PEOPLE,
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  • AS THEY'RE WATCHING YOU, THEY
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  • THINK EVERYTHING'S FINE BECAUSE
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  • YOU'RE PUTTIN' UP THE NUMBERS.
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  • I MEAN, YOU'RE DOIN' A GREAT JOB
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  • ON THE FIELD.
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  • - DARRYL: WELL, I'M ATHLETIC,
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  • STRONG.
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  • YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE MIND
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  • CAPACITY OF BEING GREAT.
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  • I HAVE THE BODY PHYSIQUE OF
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  • BEIN' GREAT, AND I HAD THE HEART
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  • OF BEIN' GREAT.
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  • I WASN'T AFRAID OF-- WELL, WHAT
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  • I MEAN ABOUT THAT, I WASN'T
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  • AFRAID TO FAIL 'CAUSE FAILURE
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  • WAS A PART OF IT, BUT THE INSIDE
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  • WASN'T GREAT.
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  • EVERYBODY CAN LOOK AT ME FROM
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  • THE OUTSIDE AND SAY,
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  • "WHAT'S WRONG?"
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  • BUT I WAS COMPLETELY BROKEN ON
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  • THE INSIDE.
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  • I WAS WOUNDED.
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  • I MEAN, MY FATHER LEFT
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  • ME WOUNDED.
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  • I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE
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  • THINK, ERIC, BECAUSE YOU MAKE
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  • MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IT'S GON'
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  • MAKE YOU WELL,
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  • "MONEY IS GONNA MAKE YOU WELL."
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  • MONEY'S NEVER GONNA HEAL
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  • YOU FROM THE WOUNDS THAT
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  • ARE UP ON YOU ON THE INSIDE,
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  • AND I WAS DEEPLY WOUNDED
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  • ON THE INSIDE, AND I WAS
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  • SEARCHING FOR MY IDENTITY OF
  • 00:05:45.110 --> 00:05:46.170
  • "WHO AM I?"
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  • NOT AS "DARRYL STRAWBERRY," WHO
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  • PLAYED FOR THE METS, DODGERS,
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  • GIANTS, YANKEES, BUT "WHO AM
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  • I AS A MAN?"
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  • - ERIC: SO YOU ENTERED THE
  • 00:05:55.250 --> 00:05:56.160
  • MAJOR LEAGUES IN '83.
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  • DID YOU START PLAYING
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  • FOR THE METS?
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  • I DON'T REMEMBER.
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  • - DARRYL: '83, I CAME IN.
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  • I MEAN, I WAS DRAFTED 1980 BY
  • 00:06:01.170 --> 00:06:02.080
  • THE METS, NUMBER ONE DRAFT PICK.
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  • SPENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN
  • 00:06:03.100 --> 00:06:05.110
  • THE MINOR LEAGUES.
  • 00:06:05.110 --> 00:06:06.050
  • I CAME CLOSE TO QUITTING IN THE
  • 00:06:06.050 --> 00:06:07.160
  • MINOR LEAGUES, AND THEY ASKED ME
  • 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.160
  • TO GIVE IT ANOTHER YEAR, AND I
  • 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:10.290
  • WENT TO JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
  • 00:06:10.290 --> 00:06:11.290
  • I BECAME THE TEXAS LEAGUE MVP,
  • 00:06:11.290 --> 00:06:13.050
  • AND I BECAME A BALLPLAYER.
  • 00:06:13.050 --> 00:06:15.050
  • I DIDN'T BECOME A MAN, BUT I
  • 00:06:15.050 --> 00:06:16.140
  • BECAME A BALLPLAYER, AND I CAME
  • 00:06:16.140 --> 00:06:18.090
  • UP TO THE BIG LEAGUES IN '83,
  • 00:06:18.090 --> 00:06:19.250
  • AND MY ROOKIE YEAR, MY FIRST
  • 00:06:19.250 --> 00:06:21.280
  • ROAD TRIP, A VETERAN PLAYER TOLD
  • 00:06:21.280 --> 00:06:23.290
  • ME TO GO BACK TO THE BATHROOM,
  • 00:06:23.290 --> 00:06:26.010
  • AND THERE I WAS, I WAS
  • 00:06:26.010 --> 00:06:28.160
  • INTRODUCED TO COCAINE AT THE AGE
  • 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.020
  • OF 21, AND HE SAID, "WELCOME TO
  • 00:06:30.020 --> 00:06:31.270
  • THE BIG LEAGUES, KID."
  • 00:06:31.270 --> 00:06:33.110
  • AND I THOUGHT I HAD ARRIVED,
  • 00:06:33.110 --> 00:06:35.070
  • AND THEY TOOK ME OUT
  • 00:06:35.070 --> 00:06:36.200
  • ON A ROAD TRIP THAT NIGHT
  • 00:06:36.200 --> 00:06:38.220
  • AND TOOK ME TO A CLUB, AND
  • 00:06:38.220 --> 00:06:39.290
  • IT WAS GIRLS, DRINKS, PARTIES.
  • 00:06:40.090 --> 00:06:43.090
  • - ERIC: THESE ARE YOUR
  • 00:06:43.090 --> 00:06:43.270
  • FELLOW PLAYERS?
  • 00:06:43.270 --> 00:06:45.020
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST
  • 00:06:45.020 --> 00:06:45.240
  • WANTED TO FIT IN.
  • 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:46.250
  • I WANTED TO BE A PART OF IT
  • 00:06:46.250 --> 00:06:47.270
  • 'CAUSE, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, MY
  • 00:06:47.270 --> 00:06:49.060
  • FATHER SAID I'D NEVER
  • 00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:49.260
  • SO I REALLY WANTED TO BE A PART
  • 00:06:53.130 --> 00:06:54.060
  • OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I
  • 00:06:54.060 --> 00:06:56.280
  • HE SAID, I WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING,
  • 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:01.260
  • AND, HERE, I TURNED OUT TO BE
  • 00:07:01.260 --> 00:07:02.170
  • THIS MAJOR-LEAGUE PLAYER AT THE
  • 00:07:02.170 --> 00:07:03.090
  • AGE OF 21.
  • 00:07:03.090 --> 00:07:04.120
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:07:08.010 --> 00:07:11.010
  • [MUSIC]
  • 00:07:11.010 --> 00:07:12.090
  • - ERIC: SO LET ME ASK YOU, YOU
  • 00:07:12.090 --> 00:07:13.120
  • KNOW, YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS
  • 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.020
  • SUCCESS.
  • 00:07:14.020 --> 00:07:15.040
  • YOU TAKE THE METS TO THEIR FIRST
  • 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.020
  • WORLD SERIES IN 13 YEARS.
  • 00:07:17.070 --> 00:07:20.070
  • IT'S A BIG DEAL.
  • 00:07:20.070 --> 00:07:21.110
  • IT'S A GREAT TEAM.
  • 00:07:21.110 --> 00:07:22.070
  • AT WHAT POINT DID THINGS BEGIN
  • 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:25.080
  • TO GO SOUTH FOR YOU, OR WAS IT
  • 00:07:25.080 --> 00:07:27.040
  • NOT SHOWING UNTIL YOU WERE
  • 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:28.080
  • - DARRYL: NO, IT WASN'T SHOWING
  • 00:07:31.010 --> 00:07:31.230
  • IN MY DAYS, MY EARLY DAYS, YOU
  • 00:07:31.230 --> 00:07:32.170
  • KNOW, PLAYIN' WITH THE METS.
  • 00:07:32.170 --> 00:07:33.200
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS-- AT 21, I WAS A
  • 00:07:33.200 --> 00:07:35.200
  • ALCOHOLIC, AND BY THE TIME I
  • 00:07:35.200 --> 00:07:37.070
  • I WAS ADDICTED TO AMPHETAMINES,
  • 00:07:40.130 --> 00:07:43.130
  • AND I COULD NOT PLAY UNLESS I
  • 00:07:43.130 --> 00:07:45.040
  • HAD TAKEN AMPHETAMINES EVERY
  • 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:48.060
  • NIGHT, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE
  • 00:07:48.060 --> 00:07:49.210
  • THE KIND OF PLAYER I BECAME.
  • 00:07:49.210 --> 00:07:51.260
  • I BECAME THIS OUTSTANDING PLAYER
  • 00:07:51.260 --> 00:07:54.040
  • BECAUSE I'M TAKIN' AMPHETAMINES,
  • 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:55.260
  • AND THEY KIND OF, LIKE, JUST,
  • 00:07:55.260 --> 00:07:57.070
  • LIGHT MY WHOLE LIGHT UP EVERY
  • 00:07:57.140 --> 00:08:00.160
  • NIGHT, AND I PLAYED LIKE THAT
  • 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:01.290
  • FOR YEARS, AND I DRANK FOR
  • 00:08:01.290 --> 00:08:02.280
  • YEARS, AND HAD I KNOWN HOW GOOD
  • 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:05.210
  • I WAS, I'D HAVE TOOK BETTER CARE
  • 00:08:05.210 --> 00:08:07.260
  • OF MYSELF, BUT I DIDN'T.
  • 00:08:07.260 --> 00:08:08.290
  • I'D GO ON THE ROAD, AND I'M OUT
  • 00:08:08.290 --> 00:08:10.030
  • ALL NIGHT, AND I'M DRINKIN' AND
  • 00:08:10.030 --> 00:08:11.120
  • PARTYIN', AND THE GIRLS AND--
  • 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:12.110
  • - ERIC: RIGHT, I MEAN, YEAH,
  • 00:08:12.110 --> 00:08:13.250
  • YOU'D HAVE TO THINK THAT THAT'S
  • 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:14.190
  • GONNA TAKE-- EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE
  • 00:08:14.190 --> 00:08:15.260
  • YOUNG, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE
  • 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:17.170
  • OPTIMAL IF YOU'RE DOIN'
  • 00:08:17.170 --> 00:08:19.000
  • THAT EVERY NIGHT.
  • 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:19.290
  • - DARRYL: WELL, NO, YOU'RE NOT,
  • 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:21.070
  • BUT AT THAT TIME, YOU DON'T
  • 00:08:21.070 --> 00:08:22.040
  • THINK THAT WAY.
  • 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.140
  • YOU KNOW, EVERY YOUNG PLAYER
  • 00:08:24.140 --> 00:08:25.040
  • THINK, "HEY, I'M SUPERMAN."
  • 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:26.000
  • I BOUNCED BACK AND GET
  • 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.120
  • UP THE NEXT DAY, AND I'VE
  • 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:28.030
  • BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT, AND I'M
  • 00:08:28.030 --> 00:08:29.140
  • TWO FOR THREE WITH--
  • 00:08:29.140 --> 00:08:31.160
  • - ERIC: YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROUD
  • 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.220
  • OF THE FACT THAT YOU PUSHED
  • 00:08:33.220 --> 00:08:35.050
  • YOURSELF THAT HARD THE LAST--
  • 00:08:35.050 --> 00:08:37.060
  • THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:08:37.060 --> 00:08:38.130
  • STILL ABLE TO PULL IT OUT.
  • 00:08:38.130 --> 00:08:39.140
  • YEAH, IT ALMOST BECOMES KIND OF
  • 00:08:39.220 --> 00:08:42.220
  • A SICK SENSE OF PRIDE.
  • 00:08:42.220 --> 00:08:44.100
  • SO WHAT YEAR DID YOU GO TO
  • 00:08:44.100 --> 00:08:45.100
  • THE YANKEES?
  • 00:08:45.100 --> 00:08:46.010
  • I DON'T REMEMBER.
  • 00:08:46.010 --> 00:08:46.180
  • - DARRYL: NO, I LEFT AT THE
  • 00:08:46.180 --> 00:08:47.150
  • FREE-AGENT YEAR, AND I WENT TO
  • 00:08:47.150 --> 00:08:49.030
  • L.A.
  • 00:08:49.030 --> 00:08:50.080
  • I CAME TO L.A.
  • 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:50.270
  • IN 1991 AFTER I BECAME A FREE
  • 00:08:52.050 --> 00:08:55.050
  • AGENT, AND YOU WOULD THINK-- I
  • 00:08:55.050 --> 00:08:55.290
  • MEAN, I SIGNED A $20 MILLION
  • 00:08:55.290 --> 00:08:56.240
  • CONTRACT, BUT I WAS MISERABLE
  • 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:57.170
  • WHEN I SIGNED THE CONTRACT
  • 00:08:57.170 --> 00:08:58.060
  • AS A FREE AGENT.
  • 00:08:58.060 --> 00:08:58.240
  • - ERIC: WHY?
  • 00:08:58.240 --> 00:08:59.070
  • - DARRYL: WELL, 'CAUSE MY
  • 00:08:59.070 --> 00:08:59.260
  • MARRIAGE WAS FALLIN' APART, I
  • 00:08:59.260 --> 00:09:00.200
  • WAS A ALCOHOLIC, I WAS A
  • 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.190
  • WOMANIZER.
  • 00:09:01.190 --> 00:09:03.150
  • SO I CAME HERE TO L.A.
  • 00:09:03.150 --> 00:09:06.050
  • AND SIGNED THE BIGGEST CONTRACT
  • 00:09:06.050 --> 00:09:07.140
  • OF MY LIFE, AND BEFORE THE
  • 00:09:07.140 --> 00:09:08.170
  • SEASON EVEN STARTED, I WENT TO A
  • 00:09:08.170 --> 00:09:09.260
  • CRUSADE, A MORRIS CERULLO
  • 00:09:10.090 --> 00:09:13.090
  • CRUSADE, AND THAT'S THE FIRST
  • 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:16.030
  • TIME IN 1991 THAT I HEARD ABOUT
  • 00:09:16.030 --> 00:09:17.060
  • THIS MAN NAMED JESUS.
  • 00:09:17.060 --> 00:09:17.230
  • I WENT THERE THURSDAY, FRIDAY,
  • 00:09:17.230 --> 00:09:18.260
  • SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
  • 00:09:18.260 --> 00:09:19.160
  • ALL HE TALKED ABOUT WAS JESUS,
  • 00:09:19.160 --> 00:09:21.130
  • AND I CRIED EVERY NIGHT.
  • 00:09:21.130 --> 00:09:22.250
  • I SAT UP THERE, AND I HAD JUST
  • 00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:25.010
  • SIGNED A $20 MILLION CONTRACT.
  • 00:09:25.010 --> 00:09:26.270
  • EVERYBODY WAS PROBABLY
  • 00:09:26.270 --> 00:09:27.160
  • WONDERIN', "WHAT IS
  • 00:09:27.160 --> 00:09:28.270
  • WRONG WITH HIM?
  • 00:09:28.270 --> 00:09:29.160
  • HE SHOULD BE SO HAPPY," BUT I
  • 00:09:29.160 --> 00:09:30.290
  • WAS WEEPIN' EVERY NIGHT, AND I
  • 00:09:30.290 --> 00:09:32.130
  • REMEMBER SUNDAY, I WALKED DOWN,
  • 00:09:32.130 --> 00:09:33.150
  • AND HE LAID HANDS ON ME, AND THE
  • 00:09:33.150 --> 00:09:35.040
  • POWER GOD CAME OVER ME.
  • 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:35.280
  • I WAS SPEAKIN' IMMEDIATELY
  • 00:09:35.280 --> 00:09:37.060
  • IN TONGUES.
  • 00:09:37.060 --> 00:09:38.060
  • MY RIVER-- MY BELLY WAS FLOWIN'
  • 00:09:38.060 --> 00:09:40.060
  • LIKE A RIVER AFTER HE LAID HANDS
  • 00:09:40.060 --> 00:09:41.280
  • ON ME, AND THIS GUY, HIS GUY
  • 00:09:41.290 --> 00:09:44.290
  • PICKED ME UP, AND HE SAYS,
  • 00:09:44.290 --> 00:09:45.180
  • "I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE--"
  • 00:09:45.180 --> 00:09:47.250
  • IT'S ONE OF HIS GUYS--
  • 00:09:47.250 --> 00:09:48.210
  • HE SAYS, "BUT GOD
  • 00:09:48.210 --> 00:09:49.070
  • HAS CALLED YOU."
  • 00:09:49.070 --> 00:09:50.250
  • AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
  • 00:09:50.250 --> 00:09:51.160
  • "OH, MY GOD, HE SOUNDS
  • 00:09:51.160 --> 00:09:52.240
  • JUST LIKE MY MOTHER"
  • 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.130
  • 'CAUSE MY MOTHER SAID GOD
  • 00:09:54.130 --> 00:09:55.140
  • HAS CALLED ME--
  • 00:09:55.140 --> 00:09:56.290
  • - ERIC: IS THAT RIGHT?
  • 00:09:56.290 --> 00:09:58.180
  • - DARRYL: -- TO PREACH
  • 00:09:58.180 --> 00:09:59.060
  • THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:09:59.060 --> 00:09:59.180
  • - ERIC: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
  • 00:09:59.180 --> 00:10:00.070
  • - DARRYL: MY MOTHER WAS DYIN',
  • 00:10:00.070 --> 00:10:00.290
  • AND SHE SAID TO ME ONE NIGHT
  • 00:10:00.290 --> 00:10:03.100
  • I PRAYED FOR HER.
  • 00:10:03.100 --> 00:10:04.060
  • SHE SAYS, "OH, YOU COULD PRAY,"
  • 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:05.190
  • SHE SAID, "BUT GOD TOLD ME--"
  • 00:10:05.190 --> 00:10:08.010
  • WHEN SHE WAS DYIN', SHE SAID,
  • 00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:10.160
  • "GOD TOLD ME HE'S GON' GET IT
  • 00:10:10.160 --> 00:10:11.070
  • OUT OF YOU."
  • 00:10:11.070 --> 00:10:11.190
  • SHE SAID, "YOU'RE GONNA GO
  • 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:12.080
  • THROUGH IT, BUT GOD SAYS HE'S
  • 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.000
  • GON' GET IT OUT OF YOU."
  • 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.150
  • - ERIC: IS THAT AMAZING?
  • 00:10:15.150 --> 00:10:16.260
  • DID YOU KNOW THAT YOUR MOTHER
  • 00:10:16.260 --> 00:10:17.290
  • WAS A WOMAN OF GOD BEFORE THAT?
  • 00:10:17.290 --> 00:10:19.110
  • - DARRYL: YES.
  • 00:10:19.110 --> 00:10:20.040
  • - ERIC: YOU DID?
  • 00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:21.020
  • - DARRYL: MY MOTHER LIVED
  • 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:21.290
  • A CHRISTIAN LIFE.
  • 00:10:21.290 --> 00:10:22.150
  • - ERIC: BUT SHE DIDN'T DRAG YOU
  • 00:10:22.150 --> 00:10:23.070
  • TO CHURCH THOUGH?
  • 00:10:23.070 --> 00:10:23.220
  • - DARRYL: SHE DIDN'T DRAG
  • 00:10:23.220 --> 00:10:24.110
  • US TO CHURCH.
  • 00:10:24.110 --> 00:10:24.240
  • SHE DIDN'T MAKE US GO TO CHURCH.
  • 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:25.290
  • IT WAS OUR CHOICE, BUT SHE
  • 00:10:25.290 --> 00:10:27.120
  • PRAYED FOR ALL OF US, AND THE
  • 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.240
  • THING ABOUT IT WAS HER PRAYERS
  • 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.130
  • WERE ANSWERED.
  • 00:10:32.130 --> 00:10:34.150
  • SHE PRAYED TO GOD, "SAVE 'EM."
  • 00:10:34.150 --> 00:10:37.030
  • SHE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING ELSE
  • 00:10:37.030 --> 00:10:38.110
  • BUT US-- FOR US TO BE SAVED,
  • 00:10:38.110 --> 00:10:39.110
  • AND HERE, TODAY,
  • 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:41.160
  • YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DESCRIBE
  • 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:44.080
  • WHAT GOD HAS DONE IN MY
  • 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:44.260
  • LIFE, YOU KNOW, OF ME PREACHIN'
  • 00:10:44.260 --> 00:10:47.050
  • THE GOSPEL.
  • 00:10:47.050 --> 00:10:48.210
  • I'M NOT QUALIFIED.
  • 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:49.060
  • WHEN HE CALLED ME NINE YEARS AGO
  • 00:10:49.060 --> 00:10:51.060
  • TO PREACH, I TOLD HIM,
  • 00:10:51.060 --> 00:10:52.050
  • "YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY."
  • 00:10:52.050 --> 00:10:52.230
  • HE GOES, "NO, I
  • 00:10:52.230 --> 00:10:53.110
  • GOT THE RIGHT ONE."
  • 00:10:53.110 --> 00:10:54.090
  • I SAYS,
  • 00:10:54.090 --> 00:10:54.260
  • "I'M NOT QUALIFIED."
  • 00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:55.120
  • HE SAID,
  • 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:55.240
  • "NO ONE IS QUALIFIED.
  • 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:56.110
  • I QUALIFY THE CALL."
  • 00:10:56.110 --> 00:10:58.110
  • - ERIC: WOW, SO YOU'RE TELLIN'
  • 00:10:58.110 --> 00:10:59.140
  • ME THAT YOU HAVE THIS EVENT.
  • 00:10:59.140 --> 00:11:00.110
  • IT HAPPENS IN 1991.
  • 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:02.080
  • WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT?
  • 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:03.140
  • BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD A LOT OF
  • 00:11:03.140 --> 00:11:04.070
  • TROUBLE AFTER THAT, SO WHAT
  • 00:11:04.070 --> 00:11:06.050
  • HAPPENED AT THAT MOMENT?
  • 00:11:06.050 --> 00:11:08.250
  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW--
  • 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:09.110
  • - DARRYL: WHAT HAPPENED, AFTER
  • 00:11:09.110 --> 00:11:10.080
  • THAT, IS I DIDN'T GET DISCIPLED.
  • 00:11:10.110 --> 00:11:13.110
  • DISCIPLESHIP IS SO IMPORTANT,
  • 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:15.270
  • YOU KNOW, AND THE BIBLE
  • 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:17.190
  • TALKS ABOUT IT.
  • 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:18.090
  • HE SAYS, "MY PEOPLE PERISH
  • 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:18.280
  • BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,"
  • 00:11:18.280 --> 00:11:20.010
  • NO KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING
  • 00:11:20.010 --> 00:11:21.020
  • OF GOD'S WORD.
  • 00:11:21.020 --> 00:11:21.220
  • WE KNOW EARTHLY THINGS, BUT WE
  • 00:11:21.220 --> 00:11:23.210
  • DON'T KNOW KINGDOM THINGS
  • 00:11:23.210 --> 00:11:24.260
  • BECAUSE WE NEVER PICKED UP THE
  • 00:11:24.260 --> 00:11:26.260
  • BOOK, AND WE NEVER STUDIED
  • 00:11:26.260 --> 00:11:28.100
  • IT FOR OURSELF.
  • 00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:29.100
  • WE HEAR A PASTOR PREACH IT AND
  • 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:30.260
  • WONDER HOW HE KNOWS SO MUCH, AND
  • 00:11:30.260 --> 00:11:32.230
  • MOST OF THE TIME, THE AVERAGE
  • 00:11:32.230 --> 00:11:35.100
  • PERSON NEVER GOES TO A BIBLE
  • 00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:38.100
  • STUDY TO LEARN, YOU KNOW, GOD'S
  • 00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.250
  • WAYS AND GOD'S COMMANDMENTS, AND
  • 00:11:39.250 --> 00:11:41.070
  • THAT LEAVES US IN THE
  • 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:41.260
  • SAME PLACE.
  • 00:11:41.260 --> 00:11:43.220
  • THAT LEAVES US IN THE SAME,
  • 00:11:43.220 --> 00:11:45.020
  • FAMILIAR PLACE, WHICH THE ENEMY
  • 00:11:45.020 --> 00:11:47.010
  • KNOWS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY
  • 00:11:47.010 --> 00:11:48.160
  • KNOW JESUS.
  • 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:50.090
  • HE KNOWS THAT YOU KNOW HIS NAME,
  • 00:11:50.090 --> 00:11:51.020
  • BUT YOU DON'T KNOW HIS POWER,
  • 00:11:51.020 --> 00:11:53.040
  • AND THAT'S WHAT BASICALLY
  • 00:11:53.040 --> 00:11:54.190
  • HAPPENS TO SO MANY OF US WHEN WE
  • 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:57.060
  • COME AND HAVE THIS CONVERSION OF
  • 00:11:57.060 --> 00:11:59.090
  • CHRIST AND WE NEVER GO BACK, AND
  • 00:11:59.090 --> 00:12:01.160
  • WE WONDER WHY WE-- 'CAUSE THE
  • 00:12:01.160 --> 00:12:02.170
  • ENEMY KNOWS THAT, IF YOU NEVER
  • 00:12:02.170 --> 00:12:04.060
  • PICK UP THAT BIBLE, HE KNOWS YOU
  • 00:12:04.060 --> 00:12:06.050
  • GOIN' BACK TO THE FAMILIAR.
  • 00:12:06.050 --> 00:12:06.290
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU HAVE
  • 00:12:06.290 --> 00:12:07.290
  • THIS EXPERIENCE.
  • 00:12:07.290 --> 00:12:09.130
  • YOU'VE SIGNED A $20 MILLION
  • 00:12:09.130 --> 00:12:11.100
  • CONTRACT, AND YOU START PLAYING
  • 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.280
  • FOR THE-- WAS IT THE DODGERS?
  • 00:12:12.280 --> 00:12:14.250
  • - DARRYL: DODGERS, L.A.
  • 00:12:14.250 --> 00:12:15.130
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU'RE PLAYING
  • 00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:16.160
  • FOR THE-- HOW LONG WERE YOU
  • 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:17.100
  • WITH THE DODGERS?
  • 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:17.260
  • - DARRYL: I WAS FROM
  • 00:12:17.260 --> 00:12:18.130
  • '91 TO '95.
  • 00:12:18.130 --> 00:12:19.180
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO DURING THOSE
  • 00:12:19.180 --> 00:12:21.210
  • YEARS, DID YOU HAVE ANY
  • 00:12:21.210 --> 00:12:23.190
  • CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE AT ALL
  • 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:24.280
  • IN YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:12:24.280 --> 00:12:25.170
  • - DARRYL: NO, I MEAN,
  • 00:12:25.170 --> 00:12:27.000
  • EVERYTHING-- I REALLY--
  • 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:28.280
  • ACTUALLY, WHEN I GOT SAVED IN
  • 00:12:28.280 --> 00:12:30.160
  • '91, AND I WAS BORN AGAIN, THE
  • 00:12:30.160 --> 00:12:32.050
  • MEDIA PERSECUTED ME BECAUSE I
  • 00:12:32.050 --> 00:12:35.000
  • WASN'T THE SAME
  • 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.270
  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
  • 00:12:36.270 --> 00:12:38.090
  • - ERIC: OH, THEY PERSECUTED
  • 00:12:38.090 --> 00:12:39.150
  • YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE
  • 00:12:39.150 --> 00:12:41.050
  • PUBLIC ABOUT IT?
  • 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:41.190
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I WENT PUBLIC,
  • 00:12:41.190 --> 00:12:42.110
  • YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD
  • 00:12:42.110 --> 00:12:42.270
  • FOUND CHRIST.
  • 00:12:42.270 --> 00:12:43.160
  • - ERIC: AND THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:12:43.160 --> 00:12:44.040
  • LIKE THAT?
  • 00:12:44.040 --> 00:12:44.150
  • - DARRYL: THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:12:44.150 --> 00:12:45.020
  • LIKE THAT.
  • 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:45.130
  • THEY CAME AGAINST ME, AND I RAN
  • 00:12:45.130 --> 00:12:46.120
  • INTO THE WALL AND DISLOCATED MY
  • 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:47.230
  • SHOULDER THE FIRST SEASON, AND
  • 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:49.220
  • I WENT BACK.
  • 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:55.180
  • I WENT BACK OUT BECAUSE I DIDN'T
  • 00:12:55.180 --> 00:12:56.100
  • GET DISCIPLED.
  • 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:57.100
  • I WENT BACK OUT FOR PROBABLY
  • 00:12:57.100 --> 00:12:58.000
  • ANOTHER 13, 14 YEARS OF MY LIFE,
  • 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:59.130
  • I WAS BROKEN.
  • 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:03.040
  • I WAS LEFT FOR DEAD.
  • 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:04.130
  • - ERIC: AND SO YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:05.050
  • WALKIN' WITH GOD.
  • 00:13:05.050 --> 00:13:05.230
  • YOU GET BACK INTO THE
  • 00:13:05.230 --> 00:13:06.230
  • SAME OLD THING.
  • 00:13:06.230 --> 00:13:07.200
  • WHEN YOU GO TO PLAY FOR THE
  • 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.200
  • YANKEES, AT THAT TIME,
  • 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:09.210
  • PHYSICALLY AND IN TERMS OF YOUR
  • 00:13:09.210 --> 00:13:11.090
  • PROSPECTS AND EVERYTHING,
  • 00:13:11.090 --> 00:13:12.080
  • EVERYTHING'S LOOKING GOOD?
  • 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:13.120
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, WHEN I CAME
  • 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:14.060
  • BACK-- WHEN I ACTUALLY CAME BACK
  • 00:13:14.060 --> 00:13:15.060
  • AFTER PLAYING HERE IN L.A.,
  • 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:18.010
  • I WENT THROUGH HELL.
  • 00:13:18.010 --> 00:13:19.040
  • I GOT INTO SERIOUS DRUGS.
  • 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:19.290
  • - ERIC: HERE, IN L.A.?
  • 00:13:19.290 --> 00:13:21.070
  • - DARRYL: HERE, IN L.A., BACK
  • 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:22.010
  • HOME, 'CAUSE I KNEW ALL
  • 00:13:22.010 --> 00:13:22.270
  • THE BACK STREETS.
  • 00:13:22.270 --> 00:13:23.150
  • - ERIC: AS AN ATHLETE, WERE YOU
  • 00:13:23.150 --> 00:13:24.100
  • STILL PERFORMING, OR DID YOUR
  • 00:13:24.100 --> 00:13:25.080
  • NUMBERS START TO--
  • 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:26.140
  • - DARRYL: I STARTED TO
  • 00:13:26.140 --> 00:13:27.050
  • REALLY DECLINE.
  • 00:13:27.050 --> 00:13:27.290
  • YOU KNOW, I STARTED HAVIN'
  • 00:13:27.290 --> 00:13:30.270
  • HEALTH ISSUES, YOU KNOW, LIKE,
  • 00:13:30.270 --> 00:13:32.140
  • MY BACK WENT OUT.
  • 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:34.170
  • I HAD TO HAVE BACK SURGERY
  • 00:13:34.170 --> 00:13:36.080
  • AND THEN I--
  • 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.120
  • - ERIC: WHAT YEAR DID THE
  • 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:38.010
  • YANKEES SIGN YOU-- '95?
  • 00:13:38.010 --> 00:13:40.130
  • - DARRYL: '95.
  • 00:13:40.130 --> 00:13:41.070
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHEN THEY
  • 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:42.100
  • SIGNED YOU, WERE THEY EXCITED?
  • 00:13:42.100 --> 00:13:44.140
  • WHERE WERE YOU IN YOUR
  • 00:13:44.140 --> 00:13:45.190
  • CAREER AT THAT POINT?
  • 00:13:45.190 --> 00:13:46.210
  • 'CAUSE YOU CONTINUED TO--
  • 00:13:46.210 --> 00:13:47.100
  • - DARRYL: THEY WERE
  • 00:13:47.100 --> 00:13:47.260
  • VERY EXCITED.
  • 00:13:47.260 --> 00:13:48.090
  • - ERIC: -- 'CAUSE YOU CONTINUED
  • 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:49.010
  • TO DO VERY WELL.
  • 00:13:49.010 --> 00:13:49.220
  • - DARRYL: I WENT AND PLAYED
  • 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:50.180
  • DOWN AT--
  • 00:13:50.180 --> 00:13:51.100
  • WELL, THEY SIGNED ME IN '95,
  • 00:13:51.100 --> 00:13:52.190
  • AND THEN THEY WANTED TO BRING
  • 00:13:52.190 --> 00:13:54.280
  • ME BACK IN '96, BUT THEY DIDN'T,
  • 00:13:54.280 --> 00:13:56.120
  • AND I FIGURED MY CAREER WAS
  • 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.180
  • OVER BY THEN, SO I WENT AND
  • 00:13:58.180 --> 00:14:00.100
  • PLAYED IN SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA,
  • 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:01.250
  • FOR THE SAINT PAUL SAINTS
  • 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:03.200
  • IN '96.
  • 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:04.280
  • - ERIC: WOW, I MISSED THAT.
  • 00:14:04.280 --> 00:14:05.220
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, AND THAT WAS A
  • 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:07.270
  • GREAT TIME DOWN THERE.
  • 00:14:07.270 --> 00:14:09.130
  • IT WAS A GREAT TIME DOWN THERE,
  • 00:14:09.130 --> 00:14:10.150
  • AND I WENT TO THE YANKEES IN
  • 00:14:10.150 --> 00:14:11.150
  • '96, AND ON TO HELP THE YANKEES
  • 00:14:11.150 --> 00:14:12.220
  • BE A PART OF THAT '96 RUN.
  • 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:14.000
  • - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:15.210
  • I MEAN, I DIDN'T THINK THE
  • 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:16.250
  • YANKEES WOULD EVER LOSE AGAIN.
  • 00:14:16.250 --> 00:14:18.070
  • FOR A FEW YEARS, IT WAS JUST ON
  • 00:14:18.070 --> 00:14:19.100
  • AND ON AND ON, AND ON.
  • 00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:20.160
  • IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:21.100
  • WERE YOU OPEN ABOUT THAT, AT THE
  • 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:22.160
  • TIME, THAT YOU HAD SUBSTANCE
  • 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:24.200
  • ABUSE, OR WAS IT STILL SOMETHING
  • 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:25.210
  • YOU WERE KIND OF HIDING?
  • 00:14:25.210 --> 00:14:26.180
  • - DARRYL: I MEAN, I WAS
  • 00:14:26.180 --> 00:14:27.060
  • OPEN ABOUT IT.
  • 00:14:27.060 --> 00:14:27.290
  • MINE'S WAS ALREADY IN
  • 00:14:27.290 --> 00:14:29.200
  • THE PUBLIC EYES.
  • 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:30.050
  • I ALREADY KNEW I HAD PROBLEMS,
  • 00:14:30.050 --> 00:14:31.040
  • AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS LIKE
  • 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:32.250
  • REALLY STRONG, REALLY POWERFUL.
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:34.270
  • ADDICTION IS VERY POWERFUL.
  • 00:14:34.270 --> 00:14:36.080
  • I THINK PEOPLE DON'T
  • 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:37.040
  • UNDERSTAND IT,
  • 00:14:37.040 --> 00:14:38.170
  • AND THEY LOOK AT PEOPLE
  • 00:14:38.170 --> 00:14:39.100
  • AND SAY, "WELL, WHY CAN'T
  • 00:14:39.100 --> 00:14:39.290
  • THEY JUST STOP?"
  • 00:14:39.290 --> 00:14:40.130
  • IT JUST DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
  • 00:14:40.130 --> 00:14:42.160
  • YOU KNOW, WE DON'T-- 'CAUSE YOU
  • 00:14:42.160 --> 00:14:43.090
  • DON'T KNOW THE TRAUMA.
  • 00:14:43.090 --> 00:14:43.270
  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED
  • 00:14:43.270 --> 00:14:44.240
  • TO 'EM, WHAT'S AFFECTED 'EM ON
  • 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:45.150
  • THE INSIDE 'CAUSE PEOPLE THAT
  • 00:14:45.150 --> 00:14:47.200
  • USE DRUGS OR DRINK ALCOHOL
  • 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.170
  • CONSISTENTLY LIKE WE DO,
  • 00:14:50.040 --> 00:14:53.040
  • SOMETHIN' HAS HAPPENED TO YOU
  • 00:14:53.040 --> 00:14:54.210
  • THAT IS-- MADE YOU FEEL NOT
  • 00:14:54.210 --> 00:14:56.160
  • WORTHY OF YOUR OWN LIFE, EVEN
  • 00:14:56.160 --> 00:14:58.220
  • BEIN' A STAR OR WHATEVER
  • 00:14:58.220 --> 00:15:00.160
  • IT MAY BE.
  • 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:01.150
  • AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AVERAGE
  • 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.200
  • PERSON IN AMERICA THAT DOESN'T
  • 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.080
  • HAVE ADDICTION PROBLEMS, AND
  • 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:07.060
  • THEY HAVE THE SAME WOUNDS ON THE
  • 00:15:07.060 --> 00:15:09.070
  • INSIDE THAT CAN'T GET WELL.
  • 00:15:09.070 --> 00:15:10.050
  • SO WHAT IS IT THAT FILLS THE
  • 00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:14.170
  • WOUNDS ON THE INSIDE?
  • 00:15:14.170 --> 00:15:15.080
  • THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO
  • 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:16.060
  • COULD FILL 'EM-- ONLY ONE.
  • 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:19.050
  • WE COULD TRY EVERYTHING WE WANT.
  • 00:15:19.050 --> 00:15:20.210
  • I COULD TRY TO BE MORE
  • 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:22.050
  • SUCCESSFUL, MORE MONEY, MORE
  • 00:15:22.050 --> 00:15:23.130
  • FAME, MORE FORTUNE, BUT THERE'S
  • 00:15:23.130 --> 00:15:25.010
  • ONLY PERSON THAT COULD FULFILL
  • 00:15:25.010 --> 00:15:26.090
  • THE BROKENNESS ON THE INSIDE,
  • 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:27.280
  • AND THAT'S JESUS HIMSELF, AND I
  • 00:15:27.280 --> 00:15:29.190
  • THINK WE NEED TO SHOW PEOPLE
  • 00:15:31.050 --> 00:15:34.050
  • THAT IN THE SOCIETY TODAY
  • 00:15:34.050 --> 00:15:35.290
  • BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKIN' FOR
  • 00:15:35.290 --> 00:15:37.120
  • EVERYTHING ELSE TO TRY TO MAKE
  • 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:38.200
  • 'EM WELL, AND HERE'S A GUY-- I
  • 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:39.290
  • TELL 'EM ALL THE TIME I STAND ON
  • 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:41.150
  • THE PULPIT AND PREACH, I'VE BEEN
  • 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:42.120
  • PRIVILEGED MY WHOLE LIFE.
  • 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:43.260
  • I'VE LIVED BEHIND COMMUNITY
  • 00:15:43.260 --> 00:15:45.280
  • GATES.
  • 00:15:45.280 --> 00:15:48.090
  • I'VE HAD A BUNCH OF STUFF, BUT I
  • 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:51.040
  • DID NOT BECOME WELL UNTIL I GOT
  • 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:51.280
  • INTO A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:15:51.280 --> 00:15:52.220
  • WITH JESUS.
  • 00:15:52.220 --> 00:15:53.290
  • WHEN I UNDERSTAND THE SYMBOL OF
  • 00:15:53.290 --> 00:15:54.290
  • THE CROSS AND UNDERSTAND THE
  • 00:15:54.290 --> 00:15:56.090
  • BLOOD AND UNDERSTAND HIS
  • 00:15:56.090 --> 00:15:57.090
  • FINISHED WORK ON THAT,
  • 00:15:57.090 --> 00:15:58.170
  • EVERYTHING THAT WAS KILLIN' ME,
  • 00:15:58.170 --> 00:16:00.120
  • HE ALREADY KILLED IT, SO
  • 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:01.120
  • THERE'S VICTORY.
  • 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:02.220
  • THERE'S TRUE VICTORY, AND I
  • 00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:05.080
  • THINK SO MANY OF US DON'T
  • 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.030
  • WANNA RECEIVE THAT.
  • 00:16:06.030 --> 00:16:06.190
  • - ERIC: AT WHAT POINT DID THE
  • 00:16:06.190 --> 00:16:08.100
  • YANKEES SAY, "WE'RE NO LONGER
  • 00:16:08.100 --> 00:16:09.020
  • INTERESTED IN THIS FRANCHISE,
  • 00:16:09.020 --> 00:16:10.270
  • CALLED DARRYL STRAWBERRY"?
  • 00:16:10.270 --> 00:16:11.290
  • - DARRYL: WELL, THE YANKEES
  • 00:16:11.290 --> 00:16:12.250
  • NEVER SAID THAT.
  • 00:16:12.250 --> 00:16:13.130
  • GEORGE, THE BOSS, NEVER
  • 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:15.160
  • SAID THAT.
  • 00:16:15.160 --> 00:16:16.010
  • - ERIC: HE NEVER DID?
  • 00:16:16.010 --> 00:16:16.210
  • - DARRYL: NO, HE LOVED ME AS
  • 00:16:16.210 --> 00:16:17.120
  • FAR AS--
  • 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:17.220
  • - ERIC: SO WHAT HAPPENED?
  • 00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:18.110
  • - DARRYL: HE LOVED ME
  • 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:18.280
  • UNCONDITIONALLY.
  • 00:16:18.280 --> 00:16:19.120
  • I THINK MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL
  • 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.170
  • SAID, "THAT'S IT," YOU KNOW.
  • 00:16:20.170 --> 00:16:21.160
  • - ERIC: MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL?
  • 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:22.170
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I WAS SUSPENDED
  • 00:16:22.170 --> 00:16:23.090
  • FOR THAT.
  • 00:16:23.090 --> 00:16:23.260
  • THAT WAS THE THIRD TIME OF
  • 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:24.180
  • BEING SUSPENDED.
  • 00:16:24.180 --> 00:16:25.080
  • - ERIC: BECAUSE OF DRUGS?
  • 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.010
  • - DARRYL: OF DRUGS, DRUG USE,
  • 00:16:27.010 --> 00:16:29.240
  • YES, AND THEY BANNED ME FOR A
  • 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.030
  • YEAR, AND I JUST SAID,
  • 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:31.200
  • "I'M DONE."
  • 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:32.020
  • THAT WAS IT.
  • 00:16:32.020 --> 00:16:32.140
  • I KNEW--
  • 00:16:32.140 --> 00:16:33.020
  • - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THAT,
  • 00:16:33.020 --> 00:16:33.220
  • DARRYL?
  • 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:34.020
  • - DARRYL: I KNEW AFTER THE '99
  • 00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:35.090
  • SEASON, AFTER I PLAYED ON THE
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.240
  • '99 TEAM AND WE WON, AND COMIN'
  • 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.220
  • BACK FOR THE 2000 YEAR, I FAILED
  • 00:16:38.220 --> 00:16:39.210
  • ANOTHER DRUG TEST, AND I KNEW
  • 00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:40.280
  • RIGHT THERE THAT IT WAS OVER,
  • 00:16:40.280 --> 00:16:41.260
  • YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:44.040
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHAT-- AT THAT
  • 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:46.220
  • POINT IN YOUR LIFE, I ASSUME
  • 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:47.120
  • YOU HAVE MONEY.
  • 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:49.140
  • YOU WERE ON YOUR SECOND WIFE?
  • 00:16:49.140 --> 00:16:51.180
  • - DARRYL: SECOND WIFE.
  • 00:16:51.180 --> 00:16:54.040
  • - ERIC: WAS THAT OKAY OR NOT?
  • 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:55.150
  • - DARRYL: NO, THAT WAS-- I
  • 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:56.050
  • DESTROYED THAT TOO.
  • 00:16:56.050 --> 00:16:57.210
  • I MEAN, I DESTROYED THE FIRST
  • 00:16:57.210 --> 00:16:58.260
  • ONE AND THE SECOND ONE.
  • 00:16:58.260 --> 00:16:59.230
  • I HURT TWO WOMEN AND A BUNCH OF
  • 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.080
  • KIDS BECAUSE I WAS SELFISH,
  • 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.260
  • SELF-CENTERED, AND I WAS LOST
  • 00:17:04.260 --> 00:17:07.230
  • AND BROKEN, AND I WENT DOWN A
  • 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:09.240
  • REAL DARK ROAD, AND UNTIL THE
  • 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.240
  • THIRD WIFE, TRACY, CAME INTO MY
  • 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:12.230
  • LIFE, GOD USED HER TO
  • 00:17:12.230 --> 00:17:14.040
  • LEAD ME BACK.
  • 00:17:14.040 --> 00:17:15.130
  • - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?
  • 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:16.170
  • - DARRYL: THAT WAS IN, LIKE,
  • 00:17:16.170 --> 00:17:18.070
  • 2003, AFTER I GOT OUT OF PRISON.
  • 00:17:18.070 --> 00:17:20.070
  • I ENDED UP IN FLORIDA STATE
  • 00:17:20.070 --> 00:17:21.140
  • PRISON.
  • 00:17:21.140 --> 00:17:21.290
  • - ERIC: YOU KNOW SOMETHING?
  • 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:22.190
  • I FORGOT.
  • 00:17:22.190 --> 00:17:25.040
  • WHY DID YOU GO TO PRISON?
  • 00:17:25.040 --> 00:17:27.040
  • - DARRYL: ADDICTION.
  • 00:17:27.040 --> 00:17:28.110
  • I KEPT BREAKIN' THE RULES AND A
  • 00:17:28.110 --> 00:17:30.230
  • VIOLATION OF PROBATION, SO I
  • 00:17:30.230 --> 00:17:31.130
  • STOOD IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE.
  • 00:17:31.130 --> 00:17:34.090
  • I SAID, "I'D JUST RATHER BE
  • 00:17:34.090 --> 00:17:35.220
  • DEAD," AND SHE SAYS, "WELL,
  • 00:17:35.220 --> 00:17:36.120
  • THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN."
  • 00:17:36.120 --> 00:17:39.110
  • SO SHE KEPT SENDIN' ME
  • 00:17:39.110 --> 00:17:39.280
  • BACK TO JAIL.
  • 00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:40.140
  • I SAYS, "WELL--" THEY WANTED TO
  • 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:41.290
  • SEND ME TO ANOTHER TREATMENT
  • 00:17:41.290 --> 00:17:42.190
  • CENTER, AND I SAID, "I DON'T
  • 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:43.220
  • WANNA GO TO TREATMENT ANYMORE."
  • 00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:44.240
  • I SAID, "JUST LOCK ME UP."
  • 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:45.190
  • AND THEY SENT ME TO A FLORIDA
  • 00:17:45.190 --> 00:17:46.240
  • STATE PRISON.
  • 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:47.070
  • - ERIC: DID YOU THINK YOU
  • 00:17:47.070 --> 00:17:47.260
  • MIGHT DIE?
  • 00:17:47.260 --> 00:17:48.150
  • - DARRYL: I WANTED TO.
  • 00:17:48.150 --> 00:17:50.220
  • - ERIC: YOU WANTED TO DIE?
  • 00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:51.230
  • - DARRYL: YES, BUT GOD BROUGHT
  • 00:17:51.230 --> 00:17:53.160
  • TRACY IN MY LIFE, AND I-- SHE
  • 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:55.110
  • WAS PULLIN' ME OUT OF DOPE
  • 00:17:55.110 --> 00:17:56.100
  • HOUSES IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
  • 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.280
  • - ERIC: SHE WAS PULLING YOU OUT
  • 00:17:57.280 --> 00:17:58.200
  • OF DOPE HOUSES IN SOUTH FLORIDA?
  • 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.130
  • - DARRYL: I WAS SHOOTIN'
  • 00:18:01.130 --> 00:18:02.190
  • DOPE AND SMOKIN' CRACK.
  • 00:18:02.190 --> 00:18:03.070
  • - ERIC: THAT WOMAN OVER THERE,
  • 00:18:03.070 --> 00:18:03.290
  • TALKIN' TO MY WIFE?
  • 00:18:03.290 --> 00:18:04.240
  • - DARRYL: YES, SHE WAS--
  • 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:05.130
  • - ERIC: NOW, YOU MET IN-- SHE
  • 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:06.140
  • WAS ALSO IN RECOVERY, CORRECT?
  • 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:07.130
  • WE MET AT A CONVENTION, AN NA
  • 00:18:11.130 --> 00:18:12.130
  • CONVENTION, AND SHE HAD ONE YEAR
  • 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:13.130
  • CLEAN, AND I HAD, LIKE, FIVE
  • 00:18:13.130 --> 00:18:14.140
  • SECONDS CLEAN.
  • 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:15.250
  • I HAD JUST COME BACK FROM, LIKE,
  • 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:17.000
  • A SIX-DAY BINGE OF SMOKIN'
  • 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:18.160
  • AND I WAS AT THE CONVENTION, BUT
  • 00:18:21.020 --> 00:18:21.240
  • SOME OF MY SPONSEES AND-- OR
  • 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.200
  • SPONSEES BROTHERS AND I MET HER,
  • 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:25.120
  • AND I TOLD HER SHE DIDN'T
  • 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:26.180
  • WANNA-- I SAID, "YOU DON'T WANNA
  • 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:27.100
  • GET INVOLVED WITH ME.
  • 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:28.010
  • I'M DANGEROUS."
  • 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:28.160
  • AND SHE DID,
  • 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.010
  • AND SHE SAW HOW DANGEROUS I
  • 00:18:30.010 --> 00:18:31.280
  • REALLY WAS.
  • 00:18:31.280 --> 00:18:33.130
  • I WAS VERY SICK, AND THEN I
  • 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:36.040
  • STARTED SHOOTING DOPE AND--
  • 00:18:36.040 --> 00:18:37.160
  • - ERIC: SO AFTER YOU MET TRACY,
  • 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:38.210
  • YOU WERE STILL-- YOU WERE
  • 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:39.290
  • SHOOTING DOPE?
  • 00:18:39.290 --> 00:18:41.210
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I STARTED
  • 00:18:41.210 --> 00:18:42.100
  • SHOOTING DOPE.
  • 00:18:42.100 --> 00:18:42.250
  • - ERIC: NOW, WHEN YOU SAY,
  • 00:18:42.250 --> 00:18:44.050
  • "SHOOTING DOPE," WHAT ARE WE
  • 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:45.090
  • TALKIN' ABOUT-- HEROIN?
  • 00:18:45.090 --> 00:18:45.270
  • - DARRYL: HEROIN.
  • 00:18:45.270 --> 00:18:46.130
  • - ERIC: THAT-- YOU KNOW, IT'S
  • 00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:47.230
  • AN AMAZING THING.
  • 00:18:47.230 --> 00:18:48.190
  • I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU-- I DON'T
  • 00:18:48.190 --> 00:18:50.060
  • KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY, BUT
  • 00:18:50.060 --> 00:18:51.170
  • WHEN YOU GO TO THAT LEVEL OF
  • 00:18:51.170 --> 00:18:54.070
  • SHOOTING HEROIN, I MEAN, YOU
  • 00:18:54.070 --> 00:18:55.230
  • HADN'T BEEN SHOOTING HEROIN.
  • 00:18:55.230 --> 00:18:57.070
  • WHAT PUSHES YOU TO THAT?
  • 00:18:57.070 --> 00:18:58.220
  • IS IT JUST STILL THE SAME PAIN?
  • 00:18:58.220 --> 00:18:59.290
  • YOU JUST WANT TO KILL THE PAIN?
  • 00:19:00.050 --> 00:19:03.050
  • - DARRYL: YES, IT'S STILL--
  • 00:19:03.050 --> 00:19:05.130
  • YOU'RE STILL TRYIN' TO FILL THE
  • 00:19:05.130 --> 00:19:06.130
  • VOID THAT'S INSIDE, THE
  • 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:07.050
  • EMPTINESS ON THE INSIDE.
  • 00:19:07.050 --> 00:19:07.240
  • I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH
  • 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.180
  • AN EPIDEMIC TODAY WITH OPIATES
  • 00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:11.210
  • AND HEROIN ADDICTION, WHY YOUNG
  • 00:19:11.210 --> 00:19:12.230
  • PEOPLE ARE DYIN'.
  • 00:19:12.230 --> 00:19:14.120
  • IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PAIN THAT'S
  • 00:19:14.120 --> 00:19:16.190
  • INSIDE, AND THEY NEVER DEAL WITH
  • 00:19:16.190 --> 00:19:18.090
  • WHAT HAPPENED TO 'EM.
  • 00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:20.000
  • AND TRACY CAME INTO MY LIFE, AND
  • 00:19:20.030 --> 00:19:23.030
  • GOD USED HER FOR ME TO DEAL WITH
  • 00:19:23.030 --> 00:19:24.120
  • WHAT HAPPENED, AND I HAD TO DEAL
  • 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:26.160
  • WITH IT, AND ONCE I FACED IT AND
  • 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:28.190
  • DEALT WITH IT, AND ONCE I WENT
  • 00:19:28.190 --> 00:19:30.230
  • BACK TO MY FATHER, WHO WAS IN
  • 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:32.120
  • THE HOSPITAL, WHEN THE LORD SENT
  • 00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:33.260
  • ME, I WAS IN CALIFORNIA TO GO
  • 00:19:33.260 --> 00:19:35.000
  • MEN'S CONFERENCE.
  • 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.090
  • THE LORD SENT ME TO THE HOSPITAL
  • 00:19:37.090 --> 00:19:38.100
  • TO GO SEE MY FATHER AND MAKE ME
  • 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:39.030
  • GO REPENT TO HIM.
  • 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:41.000
  • - ERIC: WHAT YEAR WAS THIS?
  • 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:41.280
  • - DARRYL: THAT WAS IN--
  • 00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:43.260
  • SOMEWHERE IN 2006, WELL, RIGHT
  • 00:19:43.260 --> 00:19:44.280
  • AFTER MY TRANSFORMATION.
  • 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:47.110
  • - ERIC: SO THE TRANSFORMATION,
  • 00:19:47.110 --> 00:19:48.250
  • WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE?
  • 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:50.040
  • IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WERE-- YOU
  • 00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:51.100
  • MEET TRACY.
  • 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:52.110
  • YOU'RE STILL STRUGGLING
  • 00:19:52.110 --> 00:19:54.100
  • HORRIBLY.
  • 00:19:54.100 --> 00:19:55.100
  • HOW DOES SHE MANAGED TO GET YOU
  • 00:19:55.100 --> 00:19:56.270
  • TO SEE SOMETHING YOU HAD NOT
  • 00:19:56.270 --> 00:19:58.050
  • SEEN IN ALL THOSE YEARS?
  • 00:19:58.050 --> 00:19:59.220
  • - DARRYL: WELL, I-- 'CAUSE WE
  • 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:01.160
  • WERE TOGETHER, AND THEN SHE WOKE
  • 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.090
  • UP ONE DAY, AND SHE SAYS, "I
  • 00:20:03.090 --> 00:20:04.160
  • DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA
  • 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:05.180
  • DO," 'CAUSE I WAS AT THE BOTTOM.
  • 00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:06.230
  • I WAS THREE MILLION IN DEBT AND
  • 00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:08.080
  • DIDN'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
  • 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:09.090
  • WE WERE LIVIN' IN HER PARENTS'
  • 00:20:09.090 --> 00:20:10.150
  • HOUSE, AND SHE WOKE UP ONE DAY
  • 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:11.270
  • AND SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT
  • 00:20:11.270 --> 00:20:12.230
  • YOU'RE GONNA DO, BUT I'M GON'
  • 00:20:12.230 --> 00:20:13.250
  • FOLLOW JESUS."
  • 00:20:13.250 --> 00:20:14.210
  • - ERIC: NOW, HAD SHE BEEN A
  • 00:20:14.210 --> 00:20:15.200
  • CHRISTIAN BEFORE THAT?
  • 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:16.210
  • - DARRYL: NO, SHE HAD JUST
  • 00:20:16.210 --> 00:20:17.240
  • BECOME IN A RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:18.120
  • WITH CHRIST.
  • 00:20:18.120 --> 00:20:19.040
  • SHE WAS JUST STARTING.
  • 00:20:19.040 --> 00:20:20.010
  • - ERIC: SO WHILE YOU GUYS WERE
  • 00:20:20.010 --> 00:20:21.040
  • TOGETHER, SHE FOUND JESUS?
  • 00:20:21.040 --> 00:20:22.280
  • - DARRYL: SHE FOUND CHRIST.
  • 00:20:22.280 --> 00:20:24.080
  • - ERIC: AND HOW DID THAT
  • 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:24.270
  • HAPPEN FOR HER?
  • 00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:25.130
  • - DARRYL: WELL, SHE GOT
  • 00:20:25.130 --> 00:20:26.270
  • INTRODUCED TO JESUS THROUGH
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:28.030
  • SOMEONE IN A AA PROGRAM.
  • 00:20:28.030 --> 00:20:30.190
  • A WOMAN BROUGHT HER TO A BIBLE
  • 00:20:31.040 --> 00:20:34.040
  • STUDY, AND SHE FOUND THE LORD.
  • 00:20:34.040 --> 00:20:36.170
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO NOW SHE FINDS
  • 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:38.080
  • THE LORD, AND NOW SHE SAYS, "I
  • 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:40.150
  • DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GON' DO,
  • 00:20:40.150 --> 00:20:41.290
  • BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW JESUS"?
  • 00:20:41.290 --> 00:20:43.040
  • - DARRYL: SHE SAID, YEAH, "I
  • 00:20:43.040 --> 00:20:44.050
  • DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO,
  • 00:20:44.050 --> 00:20:44.270
  • BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW JESUS,"
  • 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:45.250
  • AND I SAID, "WELL," I SAID, "I
  • 00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:46.250
  • DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
  • 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:48.130
  • I'MMA DO."
  • 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:49.060
  • I SAID, "WELL, I THINK I'M
  • 00:20:49.060 --> 00:20:49.270
  • OUT OF HERE.
  • 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:50.150
  • I'M GONNA LEAVE," AND SHE SAYS,
  • 00:20:50.150 --> 00:20:52.150
  • "WELL, I THINK YOU NEED
  • 00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:53.030
  • TO DO THAT."
  • 00:20:53.030 --> 00:20:53.210
  • AND I LEFT.
  • 00:20:53.210 --> 00:20:54.240
  • I DECIDED TO LEAVE, AND WE BROKE
  • 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.160
  • OFF THE RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.240
  • WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'D BE BACK
  • 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:58.160
  • TOGETHER OR NOT, AND IT WAS--
  • 00:20:58.160 --> 00:20:59.140
  • THE LORD SENT ME AWAY FOR
  • 00:20:59.140 --> 00:21:01.040
  • SIX MONTHS.
  • 00:21:01.040 --> 00:21:01.190
  • - ERIC: RIGHT.
  • 00:21:01.190 --> 00:21:02.290
  • - DARRYL: AND I CAME TO
  • 00:21:02.290 --> 00:21:04.050
  • CALIFORNIA, STAYED WITH MY
  • 00:21:04.050 --> 00:21:06.170
  • SISTER AND HER TWO KIDS, AND I
  • 00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:07.120
  • REMEMBER THE FIRST NIGHT I GOT
  • 00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:09.250
  • TO THE HOUSE, I TOOK MY BIBLE
  • 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:11.210
  • OUT AND WAS ABOUT TO OPEN IT AND
  • 00:21:11.210 --> 00:21:14.200
  • GOT DOWN ON MY KNEES, AND THE
  • 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:16.230
  • LORD SAID, "DON'T OPEN
  • 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:17.140
  • THAT BIBLE."
  • 00:21:17.140 --> 00:21:18.070
  • AND THE LORD SAID,
  • 00:21:18.070 --> 00:21:19.180
  • "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU."
  • 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:21.200
  • - ERIC: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
  • 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:22.090
  • HOW DID YOU KNOW THE LORD
  • 00:21:22.090 --> 00:21:22.280
  • SAID THAT?
  • 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:24.230
  • - DARRYL: BECAUSE I KNOW
  • 00:21:24.230 --> 00:21:25.160
  • HIS VOICE.
  • 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:26.250
  • - ERIC: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU
  • 00:21:26.250 --> 00:21:27.160
  • "KNOW HIS VOICE"?
  • 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:28.100
  • YOU HEARD A VOICE?
  • 00:21:28.100 --> 00:21:29.290
  • - DARRYL: YOU'LL KNOW
  • 00:21:29.290 --> 00:21:30.210
  • HIS VOICE.
  • 00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:31.060
  • YOU KNOW HE'S THE LORD.
  • 00:21:31.060 --> 00:21:32.160
  • YOU KNOW HIS VOICE.
  • 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:33.070
  • IT'S JUST BECAUSE-- AS A
  • 00:21:35.050 --> 00:21:38.050
  • CHRISTIAN, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE
  • 00:21:38.050 --> 00:21:39.220
  • NOT HEARD FROM THE LORD AND
  • 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:41.000
  • YOU'VE BEEN BORN AGAIN AND YOU
  • 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.080
  • GO THROUGH SOME STRUGGLES AND
  • 00:21:42.080 --> 00:21:44.180
  • SOME TIME, THEN WHEN THE
  • 00:21:44.180 --> 00:21:46.100
  • LORD FINALLY DECIDES TO STOP
  • 00:21:46.100 --> 00:21:47.190
  • YOU, HE SPEAKS, OKAY?
  • 00:21:47.190 --> 00:21:48.140
  • - ERIC: SO YOU'RE ON
  • 00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:51.170
  • YOUR KNEES.
  • 00:21:51.170 --> 00:21:52.050
  • THE LORD SPOKE TO YOU.
  • 00:21:52.050 --> 00:21:52.290
  • - DARRYL: OH, HE SPOKE TO ME.
  • 00:21:52.290 --> 00:21:54.020
  • - ERIC: WHY'D HE TELL YOU NOT
  • 00:21:54.020 --> 00:21:54.230
  • TO OPEN THE BIBLE?
  • 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:55.080
  • THAT'S FUNNY.
  • 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:57.010
  • - DARRYL: HE SAID, "DON'T OPEN
  • 00:21:57.010 --> 00:21:57.230
  • YOUR BIBLE."
  • 00:21:57.230 --> 00:21:58.070
  • HE SAYS, "I'VE BEEN
  • 00:21:58.070 --> 00:21:58.230
  • WAITING FOR YOU."
  • 00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:00.040
  • AND I JUST LOST IT.
  • 00:22:00.040 --> 00:22:02.160
  • - ERIC: IT'S SO AMAZING TO ME
  • 00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:05.170
  • THAT GOD WOULD SAY THAT, THAT HE
  • 00:22:05.170 --> 00:22:07.230
  • COMMUNICATES THAT SO TENDERLY.
  • 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:09.100
  • IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:22:09.100 --> 00:22:11.220
  • IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
  • 00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:14.050
  • - DARRYL: IT'S HIS LOVE.
  • 00:22:14.050 --> 00:22:14.240
  • I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, ERIC,
  • 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.000
  • WHAT HAPPENS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE
  • 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.040
  • THEY DON'T SHUT THEIR BRAIN OFF.
  • 00:22:22.170 --> 00:22:23.090
  • YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHUT YOUR MIND
  • 00:22:23.090 --> 00:22:25.160
  • OFF, GOD IS ALWAYS SPEAKING, BUT
  • 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.060
  • IT'S THOSE THAT SHUT THEIR MIND
  • 00:22:27.060 --> 00:22:29.230
  • AND I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES,
  • 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.210
  • PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT 'CAUSE
  • 00:22:35.210 --> 00:22:36.110
  • YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:22:36.110 --> 00:22:37.000
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND OUT BY
  • 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:37.200
  • MYSELF WHY I WAS NEVER
  • 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:38.070
  • HEARING FROM GOD?
  • 00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:38.240
  • BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS TOO BUSY.
  • 00:22:39.090 --> 00:22:42.090
  • I WAS ALWAYS IN A HURRY TO GO
  • 00:22:42.090 --> 00:22:44.290
  • NOWHERE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT
  • 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:48.020
  • HAPPENS TO SO MANY OF US.
  • 00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:50.290
  • WE'RE IN A HURRY TO GO NOWHERE,
  • 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:51.230
  • AND WE DON'T SPEND
  • 00:22:51.230 --> 00:22:53.000
  • TIME WITH GOD.
  • 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.140
  • 'CAUSE GOD SPEAKS.
  • 00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:57.010
  • - ERIC: I'M FEELING--
  • 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:58.020
  • I'M COMING UNDER THE
  • 00:22:58.020 --> 00:22:58.180
  • POWER OF CONVICTION
  • 00:22:58.180 --> 00:22:59.100
  • RIGHT NOW, BROTHER.
  • 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:00.080
  • [LAUGHTER]
  • 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:01.200
  • THAT IS-- NO, WHAT YOU JUST
  • 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:02.100
  • SAID, I MEAN, IT'S SO OBVIOUSLY
  • 00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:03.060
  • TRUE, BUT IT'S JUST INTERESTING
  • 00:23:03.060 --> 00:23:04.030
  • THE WAY YOU JUST PUT IT.
  • 00:23:04.030 --> 00:23:05.100
  • SO GOD SPEAKS TO YOU, "I'VE BEEN
  • 00:23:05.220 --> 00:23:08.220
  • WAITING FOR YOU."
  • 00:23:08.220 --> 00:23:09.140
  • THIS IS, LIKE,
  • 00:23:09.140 --> 00:23:10.070
  • 2007, '06, '05?
  • 00:23:10.070 --> 00:23:13.060
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, '06, AT THE
  • 00:23:13.060 --> 00:23:14.050
  • BEGINNING OF ME AND TRACY
  • 00:23:14.050 --> 00:23:14.240
  • GETTING BACK TOGETHER.
  • 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:16.010
  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO WHAT
  • 00:23:16.010 --> 00:23:16.180
  • HAPPENS NOW?
  • 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:17.060
  • - DARRYL: WELL, I LAY WITH HIM
  • 00:23:17.060 --> 00:23:18.150
  • AND SATURATE MYSELF IN THE WORD
  • 00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:19.220
  • FOR SIX MONTHS.
  • 00:23:19.220 --> 00:23:20.270
  • - ERIC: APART FROM TRACY?
  • 00:23:20.270 --> 00:23:22.160
  • - DARRYL: APART FROM TRACY,
  • 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.200
  • APART FROM DRUGS, APART FROM
  • 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:24.200
  • WOMEN, SEX, EVERYTHING.
  • 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.210
  • FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I STOPPED
  • 00:23:26.210 --> 00:23:27.210
  • EVERYTHING FOR SIX MONTHS, AND
  • 00:23:27.210 --> 00:23:30.160
  • IT WAS JUST ME AND GOD AND THE
  • 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.110
  • WORD, AND I WAS GOIN' TO CHURCH
  • 00:23:32.110 --> 00:23:33.030
  • TWO OR THREE TIMES OUT
  • 00:23:33.030 --> 00:23:33.200
  • OF THE WEEK.
  • 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:34.170
  • I WAS GOIN', HELP FEED
  • 00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:35.040
  • THE HOMELESS.
  • 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:35.190
  • HE SAID, "GET OVER YOURSELF.
  • 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:36.090
  • GET UP.
  • 00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:36.200
  • DO SOMETHIN' DIFFERENT."
  • 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.170
  • I HAD NOTHIN'.
  • 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:40.090
  • I HAD NO MONEY, HAD NO
  • 00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:42.180
  • DRIVER'S LICENSE.
  • 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.030
  • DRIVIN' MY SISTER'S CAR BACK AND
  • 00:23:45.030 --> 00:23:45.270
  • FORTH TO CHURCH, NO LICENSE, NO
  • 00:23:45.270 --> 00:23:47.030
  • MONEY, JUST STARTED DOIN' IT,
  • 00:23:47.050 --> 00:23:50.050
  • AND THEN SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS
  • 00:23:50.050 --> 00:23:52.080
  • OF LAYIN' WITH HIM IN THE WORD,
  • 00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:54.050
  • HE STARTED-- "SUPERNATURALLY,"
  • 00:23:54.100 --> 00:23:57.100
  • HE SAYS, "SATURATE YOURSELF
  • 00:23:57.100 --> 00:23:58.050
  • IN THE WORD.
  • 00:23:58.050 --> 00:23:59.240
  • "THE HOLY SPIRIT,
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  • SUPERNATURALLY, IS GON' TEACH
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  • YOU THE WORD OF GOD," AND I LAID
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  • WITH HIM FOR SIX MONTHS, AND,
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  • SUPERNATURALLY, THE HOLY SPIRIT
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  • STARTED TEACHING ME THE BIBLE.
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  • THEN HE SAYS, "GO BACK AND MARRY
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  • TRACY AND START," AND WE STARTED
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  • WITH NOTHIN', ME AND HER, $3
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  • MILLION IN DEBT.
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  • - ERIC: YOU HAD LESS THAN
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  • NOTHING, $3 MILLION IN DEBT.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I CAME WITH
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  • $3 MILLION IN DEBT.
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  • SHE GOES, "YOU GON' HAVE TO
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  • CLEAN ALL THIS UP."
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  • - ERIC: YOU NEEDED TO GET $3
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  • MILLION TO HAVE NOTHING, RIGHT?
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  • - DARRYL: I KNOW.
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  • - ERIC: OKAY, SO YOU ARE-- SO
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  • YOU GET MARRIED.
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  • OBVIOUSLY, SHE'S WALKIN'
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  • WITH GOD.
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  • IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, AT THAT
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  • POINT, YOU'RE GOOD.
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  • - DARRYL: NO, I MEAN,
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  • IT'S THE PROCESS.
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  • IT'S THE PROCESS OF GOIN'-- WHEN
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  • HE BROUGHT ME AND TRACY
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  • TOGETHER, HE MADE ME SIT IN THE
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  • BACK OF THE CHURCH,
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  • NOT THE FRONT.
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  • HE SAID, "I WANT YOU IN
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  • THE BACK."
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  • HE SAT ME FOR SEVEN YEARS
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  • BECAUSE OF DISCIPLESHIP.
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  • HE DID NOT MOVE ME FOR
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  • SEVEN YEARS.
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  • - ERIC: WHAT CITY WERE YOU IN?
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  • - DARRYL: SAINT LOUIS.
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  • - ERIC: SO, OKAY, THAT'S WHERE
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  • YOU ARE NOW.
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  • - DARRYL: WE SAT FOR
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  • SEVEN YEARS.
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  • WE HEAD OFF AT SEVEN YEARS.
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  • PEOPLE WAS WONDERIN',
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  • "WHERE IS HE?
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  • WHAT IS HE DOING?"
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  • AND PEOPLE WERE CONTACTIN'--
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  • OTHER AGENTS SAID, "WELL, WE
  • 00:25:00.260 --> 00:25:02.180
  • WANNA DO A STORY.
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  • WE WANNA DO A BOOK."
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  • TRACY WAS LIKE, "NO,
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  • WE'RE NOT DOING STORIES,
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  • BOOK."
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  • AND, I MEAN, SUPERNATURALLY,
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  • HE JUST-- I
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  • MEAN, THE BIBLE JUST, "POOF,"
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  • STARTED COMIN' ALIVE AND, YOU
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  • KNOW, SCRIPTURES SUPERNATURALLY
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  • STARTED RETAINING INSIDE OF ME,
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  • AND I STARTED, YOU KNOW,
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  • SPEAKIN' A DIFFERENT WAY AND
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT THE KINGDOM AND
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  • TALKIN' ABOUT WHAT IT SOWS, AND
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  • BEFORE I KNEW IT, GOD STARTED
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  • SENDIN' ME THIS PLACE, THAT
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  • PLACE, AND NOW HE SENDS
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  • ME EVERYWHERE.
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  • - ERIC: WELL, I WANNA ASK YOU,
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  • YOU MENTIONED THE THING
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  • WITH YOUR DAD.
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  • I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT, AFTER
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  • EVERYTHING YOU WENT THROUGH WITH
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  • HIM, YOU SAID THAT GOD SENT YOU
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  • TO HIS HOSPITAL BED.
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  • - DARRYL: SENT ME TO HIS
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  • HOSPITAL BED AND MADE ME REPENT
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  • TO HIM, FOR ME KEEPIN' HIM
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  • OUT OF MY LIFE.
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  • GOD SAYS, "HOW DARE YOU NOT
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  • FORGIVE HIM, AND I FORGAVE YOU."
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  • AND I WENT AND REPENTED TO HIM,
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  • AND MY FATHER SAID, "YES."
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  • I SAID, "I WAS WRONG.
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  • WILL YOU FORGIVE ME?"
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  • HE SAID, "YES," AND A TEAR CAME
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  • OUT HIS EYE.
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  • AND I SAID, "I'M SORRY FOR
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  • KEEPIN' YOU OUT OF MY LIFE IN MY
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  • WHOLE CAREER," AND I
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  • JUST LOST IT.
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  • I LAID IN HIS LAP-- CRIED, JUST,
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  • LOST IT, JUST SOBBIN'.
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  • THEN GOD SAYS, "RAISE UP,"
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  • AND I RAISED UP,
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  • AND GOD SAYS,
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  • "LEAD HIM TO ME RIGHT NOW."
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  • AND THERE WAS--
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  • - ERIC: THE LORD TOLD YOU TO
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  • LEAD YOUR FATHER TO HIMSELF?
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH.
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  • HE SAID-- I SAID, "YOU KNOW THE
  • 00:26:20.050 --> 00:26:22.130
  • LORD HAS CHANGED MY LIFE, AND
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  • I'M A DIFFERENT PERSON?"
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  • HE'S LIKE, "YEAH."
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  • I SAID, "WOULD YOU LIKE TO
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  • ACCEPT HIM AS LORD
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  • OF YOUR LIFE?"
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  • HE SAID, "YES."
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  • I LED HIM IN THE SINNER'S
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  • PRAYER TO THE LORD.
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  • - ERIC: THIS IS CALLED "A HAPPY
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  • ENDING," DARRYL.
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  • - DARRYL: IT'S A VERY
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  • HAPPY ENDING.
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  • - ERIC: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
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  • I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.
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  • I DID NOT REALIZE THIS.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, VERY
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  • HAPPY ENDING.
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  • THAT'S A VERY HAPPY ENDING WITH
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  • WHO GOD IS.
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  • - ERIC: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL
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  • 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU
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  • KNOW-- THAT YOUR PARENTS PASS
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  • AWAY, YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT.
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  • - DARRYL: YEAH, I WAS ABLE TO
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  • DO THAT WITH HIM.
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  • - ERIC: TO HAVE THAT, WHAT A
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  • GIFT FROM GOD TO YOU AND
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  • - DARRYL: I WAS ABLE TO LEAD MY
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  • WHOLE FAMILY TO THE LORD.
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  • OUTSIDE OF MY MOM, I LED
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  • MY SISTERS.
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  • - ERIC: YOUR MOM WAS
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  • ALREADY THERE?
  • 00:26:56.290 --> 00:26:57.270
  • - DARRYL: YEAH, MY MOM WAS
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  • MY TWO SISTERS AND MY TWO
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  • BROTHERS, GOD USED ME TO LEAD
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  • THEM TO COME BACK.
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  • - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
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  • - DARRYL: SO I'M FOREVER
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  • - ERIC: WELL, I HOPE YOU
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  • ENJOYED MY CONVERSATION WITH
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  • DARRYL STRAWBERRY.
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  • AMAZING, I FIND IT AMAZING.
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  • PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT
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  • THE SHOW, AND STAY TUNED RIGHT
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  • NOW TO SEE WHO MY GUESTS
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