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December 28, 2016
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Episode 8

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  • - Ben Little: Hello, and
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  • welcome to "The Countdown."
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  • We are counting down 2016.
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  • We're gonna be bringing in
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  • the new year.
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  • I'm here with my co-hosts,
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  • Ben Fielding and Niyah,
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  • ladies and gentleman.
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  • Welcome, guys.
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  • How are you feeling today?
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  • - Niyah Rahmaan: Feeling good.
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  • - Ben Fielding: It is good to
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  • be here.
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  • I'm excited about what this
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  • particular show has in store.
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  • - Ben Little: Yes, in store
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  • today, I don't wanna steal your
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  • thunder, who do we have on this
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  • show today?
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  • - Ben Fielding: I'm gonna leave
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  • it to our co-host here.
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  • - Niyah: None other than
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  • Pastor Robert Fergusson,
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  • one of my favorites.
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  • He is the teaching pastor here
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  • at Hillsong Australia.
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  • And I love, love him because he
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  • also has a show on the channel
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  • called "What Do You See?"
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  • And that's where he literally
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  • flips your perspective on some
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  • of the most common things,
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  • and he takes the Word and just,
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  • like, it's, oh my goodness.
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  • It's, like, amazing.
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  • - Ben Little: We've got some
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  • ideas for his next show,
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  • for 2018.
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  • "What Are You Holding?"
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  • could be a good one.
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  • - Ben Fielding: And we'll put
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  • that to Robert when he is here
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  • on the show in just a few
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  • moments time.
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  • So don't go anywhere.
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  • - Ben Little: Now, I wouldn't
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  • say that Robert Fergusson is
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  • the teaching pastor
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  • for just Australia.
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  • - Niyah: No, he's for
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  • Hillsong Church,
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  • excuse me, yeah.
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  • - Ben Little: It's like
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  • a global--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Don't box him.
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  • Don't box him, Niyah.
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  • Especially when he's about to
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  • come on the program.
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  • And speaking of the box, Niyah--
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  • - Niyah: This is what you
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  • wrote down.
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  • I'm going off of Ben's notes.
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  • - Ben Little: I just, yeah.
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  • I'd appreciate you treat
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  • the eagles like eagles, not like
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  • peacocks, if you don't mind,
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  • okay?
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  • - Niyah: You gotta get
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  • the notes right, Ben.
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  • - Ben Little: That's right.
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  • We have got so much to look
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  • forward to on this show.
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  • We've counted down 2016.
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  • We've had brilliant teaching
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  • from Pastors Brian and Bobbie.
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  • We love our senior pastors.
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  • We've had the Young & Free
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  • highlights, which has been cool.
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  • We've had some shenanigans from
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  • Hillsong United.
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  • - Ben Fielding: It's all been
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  • happening.
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  • We've got a big of a look inside
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  • some of our
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  • Young & Free Conferences,
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  • and then our
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  • Hillsong Conference.
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  • And we're about to cut right now
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  • to a clip at Hillsong Conference
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  • with Pastor Brian Houston.
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  • And he is praying for a couple
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  • right there at
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  • Hillsong Conference.
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  • Watch this.
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  • - Paul Daugherty: I think
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  • the biggest impact was, in 2015,
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  • we had been leading the church
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  • now for about
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  • a year and a few months.
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  • We just needed a break.
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  • We went to the conference.
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  • We were sittin' out in
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  • the crowd.
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  • And I just start cryin'.
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  • I'm goin', "God, thank you
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  • for bringin' us here.
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  • You've got a purpose."
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  • This was the first night.
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  • Pastor Brian gets up, preaches
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  • a message, and I was like, "Man,
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  • God is using this church, this
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  • ministry, Hillsong, to impact
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  • the world."
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  • And I was thinkin', "Man, if God
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  • could do that through Brian
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  • and Bobbie, I wonder what God
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  • could do through our lives."
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  • And just, honestly, bein'
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  • inspired, crying, just going,
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  • "God, I wanna be used by you."
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  • The next morning, we go with our
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  • team, and that day we were
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  • sitting in the auditorium.
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  • And Pastor Brian walks up
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  • on stage, and he goes--
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  • - Brian Houston: Paul
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  • and Ashley Daugherty from
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  • Tulsa, Oklahoma,
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  • if you happen to be
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  • in the room anywhere,
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  • come down here real quick.
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  • - Paul: We both were like,
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  • "Did he just say our names?"
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  • And our team's lookin' at us,
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  • and they're like,
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  • "He just said your
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  • names from the stage."
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  • And we were like, "Oh my gosh."
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  • And he said,
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  • "Paul and Ashley Daugherty,
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  • come down to the stage."
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  • He started speaking life over
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  • our church, and began to tell
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  • the story.
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  • - Brian: Well, Paul's dad,
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  • Billy Joe Daugherty, was a great
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  • man of God, massively respected,
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  • built a phenomenal church in
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  • Tulsa, and then developed
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  • a sickness, a cancer, and went
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  • real quick.
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  • And went onto heaven, which was
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  • a big shock to everyone.
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  • No doubt, his family the most.
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  • Now, Paul, several years after
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  • that now, has just taken on that
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  • church, Paul and Ashely,
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  • in the last 12 months or so.
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  • And they're in their 20's.
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  • And they've got this megachurch,
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  • which is pretty incredible,
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  • and a huge responsibility.
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  • And they're doing a fantastic
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  • job, for everything I can see.
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  • But you know, the one word,
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  • and I said it to you when I was
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  • there, but I really feel to
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  • impart into you is just,
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  • "Holy boldness."
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  • - Paul: It felt like
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  • a Paul-and-Timothy moment.
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  • Like, I imagine how Paul prayed
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  • and really, like, conferred on
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  • Timothy an anointing
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  • for ministry.
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  • I felt like Pastor Brian was
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  • doin' that on me and Ashley
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  • and was like, "Where you've been
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  • intimidated because of your age,
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  • or because of your lack of
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  • experience, you are anointed
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  • to do this.
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  • Don't let anyone disregard
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  • your age.
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  • And be bold."
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  • Sometimes you're in the middle
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  • of, like doin' ministry, and you
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  • just, I don't know.
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  • You get overwhelmed by it all,
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  • and you forget that there's,
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  • that God has better,
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  • even greater things than what
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  • you've seen.
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  • And Brian saw that when he
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  • was here.
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  • And so at the conference
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  • he starts telling everybody,
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  • "There's a calling on
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  • your church.
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  • There's a calling on you, Paul.
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  • There's a calling on you,
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  • Ashley.
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  • And you haven't seen your best
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  • days yet."
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  • - Brian: Father, no matter what
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  • the price, no matter the cost,
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  • Lord, no matter how deep
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  • a breath needs to be taken,
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  • I pray that you'll give Paul
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  • the courage to make the strong
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  • choices you've called him
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  • to make, and that, Father, he'll
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  • move forward with that boldness
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  • into all the power and all
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  • the promise of God.
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  • Lord, I thank you that for
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  • Victory Center the greatest days
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  • by far are still ahead of them.
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  • And Father, we thank you now,
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  • - Paul: I'll never go to
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  • a conference the same.
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  • I'll realize, "Man, God has
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  • something specific and unique."
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  • I felt like I walked in
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  • a greater boldness.
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  • I started doin' the things that
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  • I had known I was supposed
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  • to do.
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  • But that moment at
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  • the conference really unleashed
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  • that, "Okay, it's time."
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  • - Ashley: I felt like they were
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  • saying to champion the cause of
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  • Pastor Paul and Ashley of Tulsa
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  • 'cause they are about
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  • the local church.
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  • - Niyah: Welcome back to
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  • "The Countdown."
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  • We're counting down until 2017.
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  • We're looking back at some of
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  • the best, the very best, of
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  • Hillsong Channel.
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  • And I'm with these guys.
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  • And we're seeing some
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  • dynamic clips.
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  • I love every single one of them.
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  • We just saw one from
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  • Hillsong Conference.
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  • Man, what an inspiring story
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  • with a couple from Oklahoma, I
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  • love that, and then Pastor Brian
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  • speakin' a word over them.
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  • There's so many
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  • different things.
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  • I love just goin' back and just
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  • looking back at what was.
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  • And then looking forward,
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  • looking ahead.
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  • Twenty-seventeen is gonna be
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  • filled with so many good shows.
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  • We've got some stuff coming up.
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  • - Ben Little: We've got so much
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  • coming up.
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  • Actually, in this show, we are
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  • gonna be going to a clip soon of
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  • Taya at United Mixtape.
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  • And they're gonna be showing us
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  • a little story.
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  • It's a little bit funny.
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  • It's got something to do with
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  • an egg.
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  • But we're gonna cut to a break.
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  • But before we do that, check out
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  • - Jad Gillies: It's beauties
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  • and the beast.
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  • - Jad: Welcome back to
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  • "United Mixtape."
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  • We are joined in the studio with
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  • the one and only Taya Smith.
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  • It's good to have you.
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  • - Taya Smith: Thanks for
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  • having me.
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  • This is cool.
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  • Thanks, JD.
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  • - Jonathan "JD" Douglass:
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  • Welcome.
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  • - Jad: Well, we wanted you to
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  • tell us a little bit about your
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  • very first tour to South Africa.
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  • Kind of the experience that you
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  • had, but also a little bit about
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  • your initiation.
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  • - Taya: Yeah, so, it was
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  • kind of crazy.
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  • I had heard a couple of rumors
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  • that for any new members of
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  • Hillsong United that there was
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  • actually an initiation.
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  • And then I also heard that it
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  • got banned 'cause a couple of
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  • things just, you know,
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  • there was a couple of--
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  • - JD: We did a drink, and we'd
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  • put lots of chili, and things,
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  • that--
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  • - Jad: Things got out of hand.
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  • - JD: Just would disagree with
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  • people's stomachs.
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  • So we got creative in our
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  • initiation.
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  • And Taya was our, really, our
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  • guinea pig, weren't you?
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  • - Taya: Yeah.
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  • So I actually was, like, I
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  • guess, a little relieved when I
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  • got to go on this first trip.
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  • And I was really nervous anyway.
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  • So when I hopped in the car, I
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  • think it was the second day and
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  • we hadn't had a worship night
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  • yet, and I was really, like,
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  • tryin' to learn all
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  • these lyrics.
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  • I'm tryin' to learn all
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  • the girl songs 'cause I didn't
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  • really know them very well.
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  • So I'm just like, "Oh my gosh."
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  • I'm tryin' to remember
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  • the lyrics of "Oceans."
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  • And then Kobes, like, just
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  • turned around in the car,
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  • and he just goes, "Taya."
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  • And I was, like, so nervous.
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  • And he goes, "So you thought
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  • the initiations weren't
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  • happening anymore."
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  • And he's like, "But we've got
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  • a special one for you.
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  • And you're getting initiated."
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  • And I felt, like, sick to
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  • my stomach.
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  • I felt mad.
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  • I wanted to cry 'cause I was
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  • like, "I don't," like,
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  • "I'm so nervous."
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  • - Jad: I want you to know,
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  • at this point I was
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  • extremely happy.
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  • - Taya: Yeah, all your faces
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  • were like,
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  • and I was just like...
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  • - JD: It's a process.
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  • And we all had to go through it
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  • together.
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  • - Jad: A rite of passage.
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  • - Taya: Well, so my one was
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  • Kobes looked at me.
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  • And he had, like, I don't know
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  • if it was a carton, or just,
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  • like, some, like, serviettes,
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  • and he just, like, opened this
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  • little package.
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  • And in it was, like,
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  • a little egg.
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  • And it had a little face
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  • drawn on it.
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  • And he says,
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  • "This is your initiation.
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  • You need to carry this egg,
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  • and you need to produce this egg
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  • at any moment within 5 minutes
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  • if someone says,
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  • 'I need to see your egg.'
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  • And you need to protect
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  • this little egg.
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  • And it's gonna be for the whole
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  • 2 weeks that we're in
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  • South Africa.
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  • And you need to look after it.
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  • And then, if you happen to not
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  • look after it, and the egg is
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  • actually--"
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  • - JD: Like this egg.
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  • - Jad: Like that one.
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  • - JD: Continue.
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  • - Jad: Like that one, yeah.
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  • - Taya: Please don't crack it
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  • because I'm protecting it.
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  • "And if you crack the egg,
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  • you actually get two eggs to
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  • replace it."
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  • - JD: Like this one.
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  • - Taya: And so on.
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  • And so on.
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  • So I actually ended up with
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  • three eggs.
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  • - JD: Oh, the magic number.
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  • - Jad: Yeah.
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  • - Taya: Yuck--
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  • - JD: Well, hey, where do you
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  • think the egg comes from?
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  • Anyway, yeah, so tell us.
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  • You had to carry the eggs.
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  • And how did you end up with
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  • three eggs?
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  • I thought you just got given
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  • one.
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  • - Taya: Yeah, I did.
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  • It was actually, I think it was
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  • the first prayer meeting that we
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  • had in, I think it was
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  • close to--
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  • Wait, these--
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  • - JD: Keep talking, keep going
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  • about your initiation.
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  • - Jad: It might be boiled.
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  • I don't know.
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  • - Taya: No, no, no, I don't
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  • care.
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  • Oh my gosh, they're not.
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  • Anyway, so I had one egg, and I
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  • had it put into a mug with,
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  • like, lined with, I think,
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  • lovingly, serviettes, you know?
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  • - Jad: Napkins.
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  • - Taya: Napkins, tissues.
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  • And I put it down to pray
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  • because we were being holy,
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  • and we pray before
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  • the worship night.
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  • I have really deep pants,
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  • thank you, Jesus.
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  • And so--actually, that's really
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  • dangerous for these guys because
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  • they couldn't get it.
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  • Because when I was in the prayer
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  • meeting, I put the mug down.
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  • I started praying.
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  • And then...
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  • [laughing]
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  • - JD: Don't drop him.
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  • - Taya: I started praying.
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  • I had my eyes shut.
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  • I was like, "Yes, Jesus.
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  • Thank you.
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  • We need you 'cause, like, I've
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  • never done this before either."
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  • And then I opened my eyes,
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  • grabbed my mug, and then put it
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  • in the back.
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  • And then, also, when we do,
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  • like, a little praise party at
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  • the end, you have to go and get
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  • the eggs and carry it around
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  • the whole time.
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  • So I went to go get my egg.
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  • And I was in the girls' area,
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  • which the boys aren't allowed
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  • to go into.
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  • And I went to go get it.
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  • Like, I've run off the platform.
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  • Everyone else is on platform
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  • just waiting.
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  • And I pick up my egg, and it's
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  • completely smashed.
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  • - Jad: I have no idea how that
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  • happened.
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  • - Taya: And I was like,
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  • I yelled at Webby,
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  • our tour manager.
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  • I was like, "Webby,
  • 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:03.230
  • like, the boys got into
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  • the girls' area."
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  • And he goes,
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  • "No, that's against the rules."
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  • And I was, "Well, how else
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  • did this happen?"
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  • - Jad: Well, I think the thing
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  • we need to focus on is that you
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  • did not protect the egg.
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  • - Taya: Yes, well, I actually
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  • found out it was Kobes.
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  • - Jad: It's always Kobes.
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  • - Taya: It was during
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  • the prayer meeting.
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  • I had my eyes shut,
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  • and just goes...
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  • and he just popped the egg.
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  • And it was broken.
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  • And then I ended up with three.
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  • - male: Fantastic.
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  • - Jad: I need to see
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  • them, Taya.
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  • - male: At the end of the
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  • night, you have to juggle them.
  • 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.180
  • - Taya: The last one.
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  • It was the last night
  • 00:12:04.090 --> 00:12:05.190
  • of the tour.
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  • - JD: I remember this.
  • 00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:08.010
  • - Taya: I got them back so bad.
  • 00:12:08.010 --> 00:12:09.150
  • Actually, I got, I was carrying
  • 00:12:09.150 --> 00:12:11.090
  • a couple, and the guys were,
  • 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:12.010
  • like, trying to smash into my
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  • hands so I would have to get
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  • another one and carry them on
  • 00:12:13.210 --> 00:12:14.180
  • the plane home.
  • 00:12:14.180 --> 00:12:15.210
  • - JD: It was during
  • 00:12:15.210 --> 00:12:16.080
  • the praise party.
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  • We're running around,
  • 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:18.060
  • praising God.
  • 00:12:18.060 --> 00:12:18.290
  • Taya was still carrying her eggs
  • 00:12:18.290 --> 00:12:20.110
  • 'cause she had to at the end of
  • 00:12:20.110 --> 00:12:21.230
  • every night.
  • 00:12:21.230 --> 00:12:23.020
  • But because it was
  • 00:12:23.020 --> 00:12:23.220
  • the last night, she knew that it
  • 00:12:23.220 --> 00:12:25.120
  • didn't matter anymore.
  • 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:26.220
  • So I have this vivid memory of,
  • 00:12:26.220 --> 00:12:27.260
  • during a praise song, you
  • 00:12:27.260 --> 00:12:29.090
  • throwing an egg at Kobes while
  • 00:12:29.090 --> 00:12:30.150
  • he was drumming.
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  • Did that happen?
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  • - Taya: I did.
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  • It did actually happen.
  • 00:12:32.130 --> 00:12:33.210
  • And it was right at the end,
  • 00:12:33.210 --> 00:12:34.160
  • where I think he was doing,
  • 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:35.170
  • like, the last rally and
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  • so he was standing up on his
  • 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:37.140
  • drum riser.
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  • And so he didn't see me.
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  • And I came around the back
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  • of him.
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  • I had one of the eggs, and
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  • I just, like, he's standing up,
  • 00:12:41.260 --> 00:12:43.120
  • about ready to, like,
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  • just crash out.
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  • And I just smash it from, like,
  • 00:12:45.030 --> 00:12:46.080
  • his neck down his back.
  • 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.070
  • And I ran away.
  • 00:12:48.070 --> 00:12:48.290
  • And Webby goes, "Good job,
  • 00:12:48.290 --> 00:12:49.230
  • but you better run."
  • 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:51.000
  • - Jad: Sweet justice.
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  • - JD: So, you know, you may not
  • 00:12:52.030 --> 00:12:54.050
  • have enjoyed that process.
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  • But now that you're on the other
  • 00:12:55.130 --> 00:12:56.030
  • side of initiation, are you glad
  • 00:12:56.030 --> 00:12:57.160
  • that you went through that?
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  • Did it help you?
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  • - Jad: Did it build character?
  • 00:12:59.280 --> 00:13:01.100
  • - Taya: Yeah, I felt like it
  • 00:13:01.100 --> 00:13:01.290
  • definitely built, like,
  • 00:13:01.290 --> 00:13:02.220
  • community.
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  • - JD: So there you go.
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  • And that's how, for those who
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  • wanna know how Taya became part
  • 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:09.000
  • of Hillsong United.
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  • Let me take those eggs for you.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Well, you're on
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  • "The Countdown."
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  • Welcome back.
  • 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:20.120
  • We were just, moments ago,
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:21.190
  • watching Taya be initiated into
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  • Hillsong United.
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  • Now, do you say, Niyah,
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  • "Initiated," or, "Initiated."
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  • - Niyah: "Initiated."
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  • - Ben Fielding: "Initiated."
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  • Ben?
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  • - Ben Little: "Initiated."
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  • - Ben Fielding: Now, do you
  • 00:13:31.170 --> 00:13:32.040
  • think that there should be
  • 00:13:32.040 --> 00:13:34.040
  • an initiation here on
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  • "The Countdown"?
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  • - Niyah: I think so.
  • 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:37.160
  • And I think you need to be,
  • 00:13:37.160 --> 00:13:38.290
  • because you are--
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  • - Ben Fielding: Thank you.
  • 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:43.260
  • - Niyah: I think you should be
  • 00:13:43.260 --> 00:13:45.010
  • initiated, okay?
  • 00:13:45.010 --> 00:13:46.070
  • So what we can we do?
  • 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:47.140
  • Ben Little, this is, I'm givin'
  • 00:13:47.140 --> 00:13:48.200
  • this over to you.
  • 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:49.140
  • - Ben Little: Well, I could,
  • 00:13:49.140 --> 00:13:52.020
  • I still have an eye here
  • 00:13:52.020 --> 00:13:54.240
  • from our last craft show.
  • 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.110
  • I can put the eye in the drink,
  • 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.200
  • and then Niyah can dip her
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  • finger in the drink, and you can
  • 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.240
  • still drink the drink, if you
  • 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.230
  • wanna make it happen on
  • 00:14:04.230 --> 00:14:07.020
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:07.220
  • - Ben Fielding: Now, if I was
  • 00:14:07.220 --> 00:14:08.100
  • happy to just avail myself of
  • 00:14:08.100 --> 00:14:09.240
  • the rest of the series,
  • 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.020
  • what's gonna happen?
  • 00:14:12.020 --> 00:14:13.030
  • I mean--
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  • - Ben Little: Listen, you won't
  • 00:14:13.270 --> 00:14:14.190
  • be down for the count.
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  • - Niyah: You're not doing
  • 00:14:15.140 --> 00:14:16.010
  • a service to the--you're not
  • 00:14:16.010 --> 00:14:17.000
  • down for the count.
  • 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:17.190
  • You're not doing a service to
  • 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:18.150
  • the people at home watching this
  • 00:14:18.150 --> 00:14:20.120
  • that are relying on
  • 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:21.060
  • Ben Fielding.
  • 00:14:21.060 --> 00:14:22.130
  • They wanna get your perspective
  • 00:14:22.130 --> 00:14:23.210
  • and your insight to
  • 00:14:23.210 --> 00:14:24.100
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:14:24.100 --> 00:14:25.200
  • So you're letting a lot of
  • 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:26.060
  • people down.
  • 00:14:26.060 --> 00:14:26.280
  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, well,
  • 00:14:26.280 --> 00:14:27.150
  • let me put it this way.
  • 00:14:27.150 --> 00:14:28.020
  • That particular initiation,
  • 00:14:28.020 --> 00:14:29.090
  • I think, is a little lackluster.
  • 00:14:29.090 --> 00:14:30.240
  • In a future episode, we are
  • 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.250
  • gonna have Taya Smith right here
  • 00:14:32.250 --> 00:14:34.210
  • on "The Countdown."
  • 00:14:34.210 --> 00:14:36.000
  • And I think we should talk to
  • 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:36.270
  • her, get a bit of a picture of
  • 00:14:36.270 --> 00:14:38.100
  • what we should be doing here on
  • 00:14:38.100 --> 00:14:39.060
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:14:39.060 --> 00:14:40.280
  • And let's implement something
  • 00:14:40.280 --> 00:14:42.060
  • of substance.
  • 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:43.050
  • - Ben Little: You've been
  • 00:14:43.050 --> 00:14:43.210
  • a, you're a man of substance.
  • 00:14:43.210 --> 00:14:45.010
  • You've been on a few tours.
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  • Did you get initiated when you
  • 00:14:47.280 --> 00:14:49.100
  • first started?
  • 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:50.230
  • - Ben Fielding: No, see, Ben,
  • 00:14:50.230 --> 00:14:51.110
  • I have traveled with our
  • 00:14:51.110 --> 00:14:52.190
  • Hillsong Worship team,
  • 00:14:52.190 --> 00:14:54.070
  • which is very sophisticated.
  • 00:14:54.070 --> 00:14:56.030
  • And of course, the United team,
  • 00:14:56.030 --> 00:14:57.270
  • it's a youth band.
  • 00:14:57.270 --> 00:14:59.020
  • And you know, it's a little bit
  • 00:14:59.020 --> 00:15:00.250
  • crazier.
  • 00:15:00.250 --> 00:15:01.160
  • - Ben Little: They're a bunch
  • 00:15:01.160 --> 00:15:02.040
  • of hoorahs.
  • 00:15:02.040 --> 00:15:02.200
  • - Ben Fielding: Oh, I think
  • 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:03.070
  • there's no, yeah, there's
  • 00:15:03.070 --> 00:15:04.120
  • absolutely no predicting what
  • 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:05.140
  • they might do.
  • 00:15:05.140 --> 00:15:06.190
  • - Niyah: You never know what's
  • 00:15:06.190 --> 00:15:07.080
  • gonna come up here on
  • 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.000
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:08.190
  • But listen, we want you to check
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  • this clip out from
  • 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:11.120
  • Colour Conference.
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  • - Robert Fergusson: Now, you
  • 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:16.200
  • are a very busy mum.
  • 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.080
  • You are a global speaker.
  • 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.280
  • You bring a prophetic word.
  • 00:15:19.280 --> 00:15:22.040
  • And you love Jesus passionately.
  • 00:15:22.040 --> 00:15:24.150
  • You love his Word.
  • 00:15:24.150 --> 00:15:25.260
  • How on earth do you maintain
  • 00:15:25.260 --> 00:15:28.170
  • those disciplines?
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:30.000
  • - Lisa Bevere: For me, the fact
  • 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.070
  • that God would entrust us with
  • 00:15:31.070 --> 00:15:33.230
  • the very Word that created
  • 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:35.290
  • everything that we see.
  • 00:15:35.290 --> 00:15:37.270
  • I mean, God created everything
  • 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:39.010
  • that we see with the unseen,
  • 00:15:39.010 --> 00:15:41.020
  • which is when he spoke the Word.
  • 00:15:41.020 --> 00:15:42.200
  • It's him saying, "I'm gonna
  • 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.090
  • entrust you with the language
  • 00:15:44.090 --> 00:15:45.150
  • of your making.
  • 00:15:45.150 --> 00:15:46.220
  • I'm gonna let you speak my Word.
  • 00:15:46.220 --> 00:15:48.200
  • And my Word will come
  • 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:49.230
  • into your world.
  • 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:50.260
  • And it will remake your
  • 00:15:50.260 --> 00:15:52.100
  • marriage, your life, whatever
  • 00:15:52.100 --> 00:15:54.070
  • you are in the middle of.
  • 00:15:54.070 --> 00:15:56.050
  • My Word has the power to go in
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  • seed form into that situation
  • 00:15:58.150 --> 00:16:00.240
  • and regenerate not only you but
  • 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.050
  • your life and your family."
  • 00:16:03.050 --> 00:16:05.110
  • And for me, having no words
  • 00:16:05.150 --> 00:16:08.150
  • spoken into my life, no promises
  • 00:16:08.150 --> 00:16:10.230
  • that had been propelled over me,
  • 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:13.010
  • having the freedom to reset
  • 00:16:13.030 --> 00:16:16.030
  • a destiny with the Word of God
  • 00:16:16.030 --> 00:16:17.240
  • meant that I not only wanted
  • 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.150
  • to study the Word of God, but
  • 00:16:19.150 --> 00:16:21.050
  • I wanted to declare it over
  • 00:16:21.050 --> 00:16:22.160
  • my boys.
  • 00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:23.170
  • And I would line up my boys and
  • 00:16:23.170 --> 00:16:25.040
  • I would say, "You are for signs
  • 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:26.060
  • and wonders and miracles.
  • 00:16:26.060 --> 00:16:28.040
  • You are not for death
  • 00:16:28.040 --> 00:16:29.050
  • and destruction.
  • 00:16:29.050 --> 00:16:29.280
  • You are disciples,
  • 00:16:29.280 --> 00:16:31.030
  • taught of the Lord,
  • 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:32.010
  • and great is your peace."
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  • I would quote Isaiah over them.
  • 00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:35.110
  • I would use words that they were
  • 00:16:35.110 --> 00:16:36.160
  • like, "What's 'composure'?"
  • 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:38.170
  • And I'd be like, "You'll just
  • 00:16:38.170 --> 00:16:39.130
  • need it later.
  • 00:16:39.130 --> 00:16:40.090
  • Just don't even worry about it
  • 00:16:40.090 --> 00:16:41.080
  • right now."
  • 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.090
  • And I just don't know if people
  • 00:16:42.090 --> 00:16:44.020
  • understand that God says,
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:46.130
  • "I'm gonna give you my Word.
  • 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:47.290
  • You don't even have to figure
  • 00:16:47.290 --> 00:16:48.260
  • it out.
  • 00:16:48.260 --> 00:16:50.210
  • Just speak my Word.
  • 00:16:50.210 --> 00:16:52.040
  • Just believe my Word.
  • 00:16:52.040 --> 00:16:54.080
  • Just trust my counsel."
  • 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.180
  • And when I figured that out,
  • 00:16:56.180 --> 00:16:58.060
  • it was just, it was just
  • 00:16:58.060 --> 00:16:59.090
  • revolutionary for me that
  • 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:00.170
  • I could actually begin to step
  • 00:17:00.170 --> 00:17:01.220
  • into everything that God had
  • 00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:03.110
  • declared over my life,
  • 00:17:03.110 --> 00:17:04.180
  • if I would believe his Word,
  • 00:17:04.180 --> 00:17:06.040
  • and if I would live his Word.
  • 00:17:06.040 --> 00:17:08.290
  • - Robert: So good.
  • 00:17:08.290 --> 00:17:10.110
  • - Amanda Fergusson: And I saw
  • 00:17:10.110 --> 00:17:11.280
  • you do that, Julia,
  • 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:13.220
  • with your son.
  • 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:14.190
  • You spoke the Word over his
  • 00:17:14.190 --> 00:17:17.140
  • life, didn't you?
  • 00:17:17.140 --> 00:17:18.170
  • - Julia A'Bell: Yeah, our son
  • 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:20.120
  • was born with a heart defect.
  • 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:22.230
  • And I remember when we were
  • 00:17:22.230 --> 00:17:24.180
  • first told by the doctor that he
  • 00:17:24.180 --> 00:17:26.190
  • had that heart defect at
  • 00:17:26.190 --> 00:17:28.150
  • 6 weeks old.
  • 00:17:28.150 --> 00:17:29.140
  • And my initial response was
  • 00:17:29.140 --> 00:17:32.010
  • actually fear.
  • 00:17:32.010 --> 00:17:33.130
  • And I feared the worst.
  • 00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:36.070
  • And I think that's what
  • 00:17:36.070 --> 00:17:37.060
  • the devil wants us to do.
  • 00:17:37.060 --> 00:17:38.170
  • He wants us to fear the worst.
  • 00:17:38.170 --> 00:17:41.050
  • And I remember doing that, and
  • 00:17:41.050 --> 00:17:43.080
  • weeping, and thinking, "Oh no,"
  • 00:17:43.080 --> 00:17:45.030
  • you know, all the things that
  • 00:17:45.030 --> 00:17:46.290
  • could possibly go wrong with
  • 00:17:46.290 --> 00:17:48.030
  • his heart.
  • 00:17:48.030 --> 00:17:49.200
  • And it wasn't till I actually,
  • 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:50.240
  • I stopped, I captured the
  • 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.150
  • thoughts, and I allowed, I
  • 00:17:53.150 --> 00:17:56.150
  • started to speak the Word of God
  • 00:17:56.150 --> 00:17:58.200
  • over the situation and that our
  • 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.270
  • God was a Healer, and that there
  • 00:18:00.270 --> 00:18:02.200
  • was nothing that was impossible
  • 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.190
  • with our God, that the fear
  • 00:18:04.190 --> 00:18:07.090
  • actually started to disappear.
  • 00:18:07.090 --> 00:18:09.170
  • Faith started to build, to
  • 00:18:09.170 --> 00:18:11.270
  • the point where I just knew God
  • 00:18:11.270 --> 00:18:13.270
  • was gonna heal him.
  • 00:18:13.270 --> 00:18:15.090
  • And by his grace, and his power,
  • 00:18:15.090 --> 00:18:17.190
  • my so has got a whole heart,
  • 00:18:17.190 --> 00:18:19.270
  • which is amazing.
  • 00:18:19.270 --> 00:18:20.220
  • So praise God, yeah.
  • 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:23.190
  • - Bobbie Houston: In context of
  • 00:18:23.190 --> 00:18:24.090
  • what you just said about
  • 00:18:24.090 --> 00:18:25.090
  • declaring the Word over
  • 00:18:25.090 --> 00:18:26.030
  • your children, I love that.
  • 00:18:26.030 --> 00:18:27.100
  • And you know what?
  • 00:18:27.100 --> 00:18:28.010
  • You, your personality, your, the
  • 00:18:28.050 --> 00:18:31.050
  • calling, the anointing on you,
  • 00:18:31.050 --> 00:18:32.250
  • it so works, and your boys
  • 00:18:32.250 --> 00:18:34.080
  • are so amazing.
  • 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:35.190
  • FYI, I never stood my boys up
  • 00:18:35.190 --> 00:18:38.010
  • and declared the Word of God
  • 00:18:38.010 --> 00:18:39.130
  • over them like that,
  • 00:18:39.130 --> 00:18:40.210
  • because I'm not Lisa Bevere.
  • 00:18:40.210 --> 00:18:42.110
  • Do you know what I'm sayin'?
  • 00:18:42.110 --> 00:18:43.080
  • These are principles here.
  • 00:18:43.080 --> 00:18:44.130
  • But I just wanna say that
  • 00:18:44.130 --> 00:18:45.120
  • because it comes in all
  • 00:18:45.120 --> 00:18:47.010
  • different ways, doesn't it,
  • 00:18:47.010 --> 00:18:48.060
  • Lisa?
  • 00:18:48.060 --> 00:18:48.250
  • And like you, that's your
  • 00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:50.010
  • personality.
  • 00:18:50.010 --> 00:18:50.260
  • And you are adorable in that.
  • 00:18:50.260 --> 00:18:52.290
  • And I'm like, "Oh my gosh."
  • 00:18:52.290 --> 00:18:54.210
  • But you know what?
  • 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:55.200
  • For us, our kids, seriously,
  • 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.280
  • that might not have worked
  • 00:18:57.280 --> 00:18:58.190
  • for me.
  • 00:18:58.190 --> 00:18:59.080
  • They'd be like,
  • 00:18:59.080 --> 00:19:00.160
  • "Mum, what are you doing?"
  • 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.020
  • They would look down at me and
  • 00:19:03.020 --> 00:19:03.240
  • go, "Mum, what are you doing?"
  • 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:05.040
  • However, our children, in
  • 00:19:05.040 --> 00:19:07.090
  • a different context, have been
  • 00:19:07.090 --> 00:19:09.090
  • raised in this house, which
  • 00:19:09.090 --> 00:19:11.160
  • really, whilst not perfect,
  • 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.180
  • is profoundly full of the Word.
  • 00:19:13.180 --> 00:19:16.090
  • They've sat under the Word since
  • 00:19:16.090 --> 00:19:17.060
  • they were children.
  • 00:19:17.060 --> 00:19:17.260
  • As a church, we never took
  • 00:19:17.260 --> 00:19:19.140
  • our--our children's ministry
  • 00:19:19.180 --> 00:19:22.180
  • doesn't start.
  • 00:19:22.180 --> 00:19:23.150
  • We have the children in service,
  • 00:19:23.150 --> 00:19:25.010
  • in praise and worship.
  • 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:26.170
  • The worship is Word based,
  • 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:28.110
  • absolutely.
  • 00:19:28.110 --> 00:19:30.070
  • And you know what?
  • 00:19:30.070 --> 00:19:31.030
  • They've been raised with
  • 00:19:31.030 --> 00:19:32.230
  • the Word all around them, so
  • 00:19:32.230 --> 00:19:33.260
  • there's been that proclamation.
  • 00:19:33.260 --> 00:19:35.060
  • So I just wanted to say that,
  • 00:19:35.060 --> 00:19:36.180
  • in case someone gets weird
  • 00:19:36.180 --> 00:19:37.260
  • and tries to go home, having not
  • 00:19:37.260 --> 00:19:39.090
  • earned a relationship with your
  • 00:19:39.090 --> 00:19:40.200
  • teenage child or son, to declare
  • 00:19:40.270 --> 00:19:43.270
  • the Word of God like she would.
  • 00:19:43.270 --> 00:19:46.070
  • Please don't do that.
  • 00:19:46.070 --> 00:19:47.190
  • 'Cause you're likely to tip them
  • 00:19:47.190 --> 00:19:49.060
  • off the edge.
  • 00:19:49.060 --> 00:19:50.180
  • Is that true?
  • 00:19:50.180 --> 00:19:52.040
  • - Lisa: Yes.
  • 00:19:52.040 --> 00:19:52.230
  • And you know, I wanna say,
  • 00:19:52.230 --> 00:19:53.220
  • and I wanna say this.
  • 00:19:53.220 --> 00:19:54.200
  • You know, I had so much fear
  • 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:55.230
  • in my life.
  • 00:19:55.230 --> 00:19:57.010
  • And I didn't have the context of
  • 00:19:57.010 --> 00:19:58.130
  • a house where that, that
  • 00:19:58.130 --> 00:20:00.050
  • children were welcomed in.
  • 00:20:00.050 --> 00:20:02.030
  • They were not allowed to cry.
  • 00:20:02.030 --> 00:20:04.140
  • They were not allowed to
  • 00:20:04.140 --> 00:20:05.100
  • make noise.
  • 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:06.010
  • They were considered
  • 00:20:06.010 --> 00:20:07.290
  • a disruption.
  • 00:20:07.290 --> 00:20:09.020
  • And so praying over my children
  • 00:20:09.020 --> 00:20:11.090
  • when they were very little
  • 00:20:11.090 --> 00:20:12.140
  • became really important to me
  • 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:13.200
  • 'cause God just said,
  • 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:14.120
  • "Your children will inherit
  • 00:20:14.120 --> 00:20:15.080
  • one of two things, either
  • 00:20:15.080 --> 00:20:16.050
  • my promises or your fears."
  • 00:20:16.050 --> 00:20:18.050
  • And I was actually afraid,
  • 00:20:18.050 --> 00:20:20.230
  • afraid, so afraid that I
  • 00:20:20.230 --> 00:20:22.020
  • actually just, when I get
  • 00:20:22.020 --> 00:20:23.060
  • afraid, I just get loud.
  • 00:20:23.060 --> 00:20:24.230
  • I'm like, "I'm just gonna scare
  • 00:20:24.230 --> 00:20:26.090
  • what's scared.
  • 00:20:26.090 --> 00:20:27.080
  • I'm just gonna compensate
  • 00:20:27.100 --> 00:20:30.100
  • for this."
  • 00:20:30.100 --> 00:20:31.020
  • - Bobbie: And that's your
  • 00:20:31.020 --> 00:20:31.190
  • personality.
  • 00:20:31.190 --> 00:20:32.080
  • And my personality is when I get
  • 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:33.080
  • scared, I go quiet.
  • 00:20:33.080 --> 00:20:35.180
  • I go quiet, and it's like
  • 00:20:35.180 --> 00:20:36.200
  • a different declaration.
  • 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.160
  • So you know what?
  • 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:39.070
  • There's freedom within this room
  • 00:20:39.070 --> 00:20:41.010
  • for us all to find what is
  • 00:20:41.010 --> 00:20:42.200
  • actually right for us, amen?
  • 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.000
  • And I love that diversity that's
  • 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.180
  • within the kingdom.
  • 00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:48.280
  • But we have to be wise with our
  • 00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.000
  • kids, hey?
  • 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:51.000
  • And it's wisdom to not
  • 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.100
  • neglect them.
  • 00:20:52.100 --> 00:20:52.280
  • And it's wisdom to speak
  • 00:20:52.280 --> 00:20:53.250
  • the Word over, and to pray
  • 00:20:53.250 --> 00:20:54.280
  • the Word of God over them,
  • 00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:56.070
  • and to pray for them.
  • 00:20:56.070 --> 00:20:57.250
  • But you know what?
  • 00:20:57.250 --> 00:20:58.150
  • - Niyah: Welcome back to
  • 00:21:02.180 --> 00:21:03.040
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:03.230
  • Now, I have a very special
  • 00:21:03.230 --> 00:21:04.190
  • surprise for you.
  • 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:06.020
  • We have none other than
  • 00:21:06.020 --> 00:21:07.130
  • Pastor Robert Fergusson joining
  • 00:21:07.130 --> 00:21:10.060
  • us on "The Countdown."
  • 00:21:10.060 --> 00:21:12.220
  • This is one of my favorite.
  • 00:21:12.220 --> 00:21:14.120
  • You are, by far, one of my
  • 00:21:14.120 --> 00:21:15.180
  • favorite preachers, and by far,
  • 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:17.280
  • one of my favorite guests on
  • 00:21:17.280 --> 00:21:18.150
  • "The Countdown."
  • 00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:19.030
  • - Robert: You are very kind,
  • 00:21:19.030 --> 00:21:19.210
  • Niyah.
  • 00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:20.150
  • And you are one of my favorites
  • 00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:21.100
  • as well.
  • 00:21:21.100 --> 00:21:22.260
  • I'm not sure about these two.
  • 00:21:22.280 --> 00:21:25.280
  • - Ben Fielding: Robert, you
  • 00:21:25.280 --> 00:21:26.150
  • don't have to be sure.
  • 00:21:26.150 --> 00:21:26.290
  • Just open your heart.
  • 00:21:26.290 --> 00:21:28.020
  • Soften your heart.
  • 00:21:28.020 --> 00:21:28.290
  • Let's see what happens over the
  • 00:21:28.290 --> 00:21:29.220
  • course of these next few moments
  • 00:21:29.220 --> 00:21:31.120
  • that we have together.
  • 00:21:31.120 --> 00:21:32.110
  • - Robert: I'd like to apologize
  • 00:21:32.110 --> 00:21:33.000
  • in advance for anything these
  • 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:33.270
  • two say.
  • 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:35.170
  • - Ben Fielding: Robert, has it
  • 00:21:35.170 --> 00:21:36.060
  • been a highlight of your 2016
  • 00:21:36.060 --> 00:21:37.290
  • appearing here?
  • 00:21:37.290 --> 00:21:38.210
  • And how much anticipation did
  • 00:21:38.210 --> 00:21:39.260
  • you have about coming on
  • 00:21:39.260 --> 00:21:41.070
  • the program?
  • 00:21:41.070 --> 00:21:42.040
  • - Robert: Prayer and fasting,
  • 00:21:42.040 --> 00:21:43.280
  • a lot of preparation.
  • 00:21:43.280 --> 00:21:46.050
  • - Ben Fielding: Now, we were
  • 00:21:46.050 --> 00:21:47.020
  • just talking earlier about
  • 00:21:47.020 --> 00:21:48.080
  • praying for your children
  • 00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:50.080
  • on that panel.
  • 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:51.030
  • And it was quite a phenomenal
  • 00:21:51.030 --> 00:21:52.170
  • panel.
  • 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:53.280
  • Can you talk to us a little bit
  • 00:21:53.280 --> 00:21:54.220
  • about your family, how many
  • 00:21:54.220 --> 00:21:56.040
  • children you have, what that
  • 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:57.010
  • looks like, the family unit.
  • 00:21:57.010 --> 00:21:58.140
  • - Robert: Yes, I have
  • 00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:00.200
  • three children, all grown up,
  • 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.040
  • and six grandchildren,
  • 00:22:02.040 --> 00:22:03.290
  • six grandchildren.
  • 00:22:03.290 --> 00:22:05.140
  • So my wife and I celebrated our
  • 00:22:05.140 --> 00:22:07.100
  • 40th wedding anniversary
  • 00:22:07.100 --> 00:22:09.240
  • in 2016, so.
  • 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.030
  • - Ben Fielding: What do you do
  • 00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:12.040
  • for 40 years of marriage?
  • 00:22:12.040 --> 00:22:14.020
  • How did you celebrate?
  • 00:22:14.020 --> 00:22:15.230
  • - Robert: We went--I asked that
  • 00:22:15.230 --> 00:22:16.260
  • of my daughter.
  • 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:18.060
  • I said, "What do we do?
  • 00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:19.060
  • Do we go on a cruise?
  • 00:22:19.060 --> 00:22:20.260
  • What do we do?"
  • 00:22:20.260 --> 00:22:21.250
  • And she said, "Go back to
  • 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:22.170
  • the place where you proposed."
  • 00:22:22.170 --> 00:22:24.250
  • - Ben Fielding: Wow,
  • 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:25.110
  • good advice.
  • 00:22:25.110 --> 00:22:26.210
  • You've raised a wise woman.
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:28.110
  • - Niyah: Where was that place?
  • 00:22:28.110 --> 00:22:29.060
  • Is it in England?
  • 00:22:29.060 --> 00:22:30.090
  • - Robert: It was an island off
  • 00:22:30.090 --> 00:22:30.290
  • the west coast of Scotland.
  • 00:22:30.290 --> 00:22:32.140
  • And--
  • 00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:33.180
  • - Niyah: The Isle of Skye?
  • 00:22:33.180 --> 00:22:34.220
  • - Robert: No, just near there,
  • 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:35.260
  • an island called Gigha, which is
  • 00:22:35.260 --> 00:22:37.200
  • Gaelic for "God's Isle."
  • 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.060
  • And I re-proposed.
  • 00:22:40.060 --> 00:22:42.020
  • I didn't tell Amanda I was gonna
  • 00:22:42.020 --> 00:22:43.030
  • do that.
  • 00:22:43.030 --> 00:22:43.260
  • I asked her to stay married
  • 00:22:43.260 --> 00:22:44.220
  • to me.
  • 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:45.180
  • I got down on my knees.
  • 00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:47.020
  • I gave her a ring, another one.
  • 00:22:47.020 --> 00:22:48.270
  • - Ben Fielding: Now, was there
  • 00:22:48.270 --> 00:22:49.260
  • any moment that--
  • 00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:50.180
  • - Robert: And she said would
  • 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:51.060
  • stay with me.
  • 00:22:51.060 --> 00:22:52.050
  • - Ben Fielding: That crossed
  • 00:22:52.050 --> 00:22:52.230
  • your mind where you were like,
  • 00:22:52.230 --> 00:22:53.140
  • "What happens if this doesn't go
  • 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:54.050
  • to plan?"
  • 00:22:54.050 --> 00:22:54.290
  • - Robert: It could've gone
  • 00:22:54.290 --> 00:22:56.020
  • horribly wrong.
  • 00:22:56.020 --> 00:22:57.010
  • But she was very happy.
  • 00:22:57.010 --> 00:22:58.080
  • - Niyah: Only they would ask
  • 00:22:58.080 --> 00:22:58.270
  • that question.
  • 00:22:58.270 --> 00:23:00.030
  • - Ben Little: You kinda put
  • 00:23:00.030 --> 00:23:00.200
  • yourself out there, didn't you?
  • 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:01.090
  • - Robert: Yes.
  • 00:23:01.090 --> 00:23:01.220
  • She said, "Yes," before I even
  • 00:23:01.220 --> 00:23:02.180
  • gave her the ring, so it
  • 00:23:02.180 --> 00:23:03.290
  • was good.
  • 00:23:03.290 --> 00:23:04.250
  • - Ben Fielding: That's normally
  • 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:05.150
  • a good strategy going into
  • 00:23:05.150 --> 00:23:06.020
  • the initial proposal too,
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:07.200
  • to have a fairly confident idea
  • 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.140
  • of what's gonna happen.
  • 00:23:09.140 --> 00:23:10.120
  • - Robert: Well, the first
  • 00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:11.020
  • proposal, 40 years previously,
  • 00:23:11.020 --> 00:23:12.220
  • hadn't gone very well.
  • 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:14.030
  • So I thought I'd make a better
  • 00:23:14.030 --> 00:23:14.270
  • job of this one.
  • 00:23:14.270 --> 00:23:16.010
  • Because she didn't think I
  • 00:23:16.010 --> 00:23:18.120
  • was serious.
  • 00:23:18.120 --> 00:23:19.200
  • She said, "Are you joking?"
  • 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.160
  • Which isn't really what you want
  • 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:22.240
  • to hear when you say,
  • 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:23.190
  • "Will you marry me?"
  • 00:23:23.190 --> 00:23:24.150
  • - Ben Fielding: Not ideal.
  • 00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:25.140
  • - Robert: No.
  • 00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:26.040
  • But anyway, we're still here.
  • 00:23:26.040 --> 00:23:28.170
  • - Ben Little: We are still
  • 00:23:28.170 --> 00:23:29.050
  • here, and kicking, and we are
  • 00:23:29.050 --> 00:23:30.050
  • down for the count.
  • 00:23:30.050 --> 00:23:31.000
  • - Niyah: And a dynamic couple
  • 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:31.260
  • at that.
  • 00:23:31.260 --> 00:23:32.140
  • - Ben Little: You are featured
  • 00:23:32.140 --> 00:23:33.120
  • a lot on the Hillsong Channel
  • 00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:34.060
  • this year.
  • 00:23:34.060 --> 00:23:35.110
  • And coming next year, which
  • 00:23:35.110 --> 00:23:36.050
  • we're very excited about,
  • 00:23:36.050 --> 00:23:37.030
  • in your show.
  • 00:23:37.030 --> 00:23:38.010
  • How have you found, you preach
  • 00:23:38.010 --> 00:23:39.220
  • and teach a lot, communicate
  • 00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:40.260
  • a lot, how have you found
  • 00:23:40.260 --> 00:23:41.210
  • expressing yourself through
  • 00:23:41.210 --> 00:23:43.090
  • that medium?
  • 00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:46.120
  • - Robert: Look, like you, Ben,
  • 00:23:46.120 --> 00:23:48.100
  • I have absolutely no idea what
  • 00:23:48.100 --> 00:23:49.260
  • I'm doing.
  • 00:23:49.260 --> 00:23:51.050
  • But at least I'm older than you,
  • 00:23:51.270 --> 00:23:54.270
  • so a little wiser.
  • 00:23:54.270 --> 00:23:55.270
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, yeah,
  • 00:23:55.270 --> 00:23:56.160
  • a lot wiser.
  • 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.280
  • Now, speaking of being older
  • 00:23:57.280 --> 00:23:58.280
  • and wiser--
  • 00:23:58.280 --> 00:23:59.220
  • - Robert: But now, it's been
  • 00:23:59.220 --> 00:24:00.210
  • great.
  • 00:24:00.210 --> 00:24:01.060
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, thanks for
  • 00:24:01.060 --> 00:24:02.010
  • answering the question.
  • 00:24:02.010 --> 00:24:03.010
  • We're gonna be going to
  • 00:24:03.010 --> 00:24:04.130
  • a show now,
  • 00:24:04.130 --> 00:24:05.130
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships."
  • 00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:07.050
  • And they're talking about
  • 00:24:07.050 --> 00:24:08.140
  • a topic, "How much sex is
  • 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:11.010
  • too much sex?"
  • 00:24:11.010 --> 00:24:12.100
  • - Andreas Nielsen: Hey, hi,
  • 00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:16.130
  • crew.
  • 00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:17.000
  • Hey, we're takin' it to
  • 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:17.210
  • the street, tryin' to mix it up
  • 00:24:17.210 --> 00:24:18.160
  • a little bit.
  • 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.030
  • And I've got some people that
  • 00:24:19.030 --> 00:24:20.160
  • I'm gonna try to hunt down here
  • 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:21.190
  • on the street to ask some good
  • 00:24:21.190 --> 00:24:22.250
  • questions about relationships.
  • 00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:24.050
  • So how many times a week do you
  • 00:24:24.050 --> 00:24:25.160
  • think you should have sex to
  • 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:26.110
  • have a healthy marriage,
  • 00:24:26.110 --> 00:24:27.150
  • a good marriage?
  • 00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:29.220
  • - male: About six times a week.
  • 00:24:29.220 --> 00:24:31.160
  • Then you can rest on
  • 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:32.060
  • the last day.
  • 00:24:32.060 --> 00:24:33.060
  • - Andreas: Six times?
  • 00:24:33.060 --> 00:24:34.040
  • You're slackin' off on
  • 00:24:34.040 --> 00:24:34.260
  • the seventh day?
  • 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:36.020
  • - male: Okay, let's say
  • 00:24:36.020 --> 00:24:36.200
  • seven then.
  • 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.100
  • - Andreas: All right, seven,
  • 00:24:37.100 --> 00:24:38.000
  • that's a good number.
  • 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:38.230
  • Thank you.
  • 00:24:38.230 --> 00:24:39.100
  • - male: Thank you.
  • 00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:39.280
  • - Andreas: Well, we're talkin'
  • 00:24:39.280 --> 00:24:40.170
  • about relationships.
  • 00:24:40.170 --> 00:24:41.020
  • How many times a week do you
  • 00:24:41.020 --> 00:24:42.040
  • think you should have sex
  • 00:24:42.040 --> 00:24:42.240
  • to have a healthy relationship?
  • 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.140
  • - female: Oh wow.
  • 00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:45.220
  • - female: [laughing]
  • 00:24:45.220 --> 00:24:47.110
  • - female: Hmm, like once
  • 00:24:47.110 --> 00:24:49.130
  • or twice.
  • 00:24:49.130 --> 00:24:50.160
  • - male: For a good marriage,
  • 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.120
  • I would say seven.
  • 00:24:51.120 --> 00:24:52.180
  • - Andreas: Seven times?
  • 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:53.100
  • - male: Yeah, I mean, how many
  • 00:24:53.100 --> 00:24:54.020
  • days is there in a week?
  • 00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:56.030
  • - female: Maybe two,
  • 00:24:56.030 --> 00:24:57.000
  • three times, or something.
  • 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:58.080
  • - Andreas: Two or three times,
  • 00:24:58.080 --> 00:24:58.270
  • good number.
  • 00:24:58.270 --> 00:24:59.210
  • - female: Depends, depends on
  • 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:00.110
  • the situation in life.
  • 00:25:00.110 --> 00:25:01.240
  • - female: Ooh, seven is
  • 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.130
  • a holy number, right?
  • 00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:05.010
  • - female: Three to four?
  • 00:25:05.010 --> 00:25:05.170
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:06.030
  • - both: Three to four--
  • 00:25:06.030 --> 00:25:06.220
  • - female: Times a week.
  • 00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:07.110
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:25:07.110 --> 00:25:08.230
  • - female: I think between
  • 00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:09.180
  • four and five times a week.
  • 00:25:09.180 --> 00:25:11.280
  • - male: I mean, the actual
  • 00:25:11.280 --> 00:25:12.160
  • number is, like--
  • 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:13.270
  • - female: Way higher.
  • 00:25:13.270 --> 00:25:14.190
  • - male: Yeah, way higher.
  • 00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:15.070
  • I mean, it's double, yeah.
  • 00:25:15.070 --> 00:25:16.080
  • Three to four,
  • 00:25:16.080 --> 00:25:16.260
  • that's a good answer.
  • 00:25:16.260 --> 00:25:18.050
  • - female: [laughing]
  • 00:25:18.050 --> 00:25:20.050
  • - Chrishan Jeyaratnam: Wow,
  • 00:25:20.050 --> 00:25:21.030
  • what an array of answers here.
  • 00:25:21.270 --> 00:25:24.270
  • And you'd never guess.
  • 00:25:24.270 --> 00:25:27.230
  • I'm a bit speechless.
  • 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:29.270
  • I like that we're talking
  • 00:25:29.270 --> 00:25:30.260
  • about this.
  • 00:25:30.260 --> 00:25:31.230
  • John and Helen, you guys are
  • 00:25:31.230 --> 00:25:33.040
  • the experts, 42 years.
  • 00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:34.190
  • - Helen Burns: You know what,
  • 00:25:34.190 --> 00:25:35.070
  • though?
  • 00:25:35.070 --> 00:25:35.210
  • Except for, you have more
  • 00:25:35.210 --> 00:25:36.160
  • children than we did.
  • 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.040
  • - Chrishan: We do.
  • 00:25:38.040 --> 00:25:39.030
  • - Helen: We maybe should be
  • 00:25:39.030 --> 00:25:40.080
  • asking you.
  • 00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:41.130
  • - John Burns: C'mon, give me
  • 00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:42.010
  • your top answer.
  • 00:25:42.010 --> 00:25:43.120
  • - Helen: Give us your
  • 00:25:43.120 --> 00:25:43.270
  • best guess.
  • 00:25:43.270 --> 00:25:44.230
  • - Chrishan: Best guess would
  • 00:25:44.230 --> 00:25:45.200
  • be, I mean, we wouldn't be
  • 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.060
  • talking about a week, we'd be
  • 00:25:47.060 --> 00:25:48.150
  • talking about a day, right?
  • 00:25:48.150 --> 00:25:50.160
  • I mean, how many times a day--?
  • 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.260
  • - Helen: Well done.
  • 00:25:52.260 --> 00:25:54.240
  • And I know Dani's all for that,
  • 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:56.250
  • thinks it's fantastic.
  • 00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:58.170
  • - John: I think you scored big
  • 00:25:58.170 --> 00:25:59.170
  • on that one.
  • 00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:00.090
  • That's good.
  • 00:26:00.090 --> 00:26:00.270
  • [laughing]
  • 00:26:00.270 --> 00:26:02.200
  • - Helen: I think you mentioned
  • 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:03.110
  • this earlier, that there's just
  • 00:26:03.110 --> 00:26:05.270
  • certain things.
  • 00:26:05.270 --> 00:26:06.140
  • Normal, what's normal?
  • 00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:08.140
  • People always wanna know,
  • 00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:09.070
  • "What is normal?"
  • 00:26:09.070 --> 00:26:10.200
  • And there is no such thing as
  • 00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:11.260
  • normal in a relationship.
  • 00:26:11.260 --> 00:26:13.170
  • I believe a healthy
  • 00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:15.030
  • relationship, sexually,
  • 00:26:15.030 --> 00:26:16.250
  • is one that is satisfying
  • 00:26:16.250 --> 00:26:17.250
  • for both of you.
  • 00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:18.290
  • And going back to what we talked
  • 00:26:18.290 --> 00:26:20.040
  • about earlier, there's seasons
  • 00:26:20.040 --> 00:26:21.140
  • that feel kind of boring
  • 00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:22.200
  • and mundane.
  • 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.190
  • And then there's other seasons
  • 00:26:23.190 --> 00:26:24.100
  • that feel like, "Woo-hoo!"
  • 00:26:24.100 --> 00:26:25.290
  • You know, and it's, party, like,
  • 00:26:25.290 --> 00:26:27.120
  • wait till the kids
  • 00:26:27.120 --> 00:26:28.060
  • all leave home.
  • 00:26:28.060 --> 00:26:29.040
  • It's just a whole new world.
  • 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:30.260
  • But--
  • 00:26:30.260 --> 00:26:31.210
  • - John: "A whole new world."
  • 00:26:31.210 --> 00:26:33.080
  • - Helen: In the meanwhile,
  • 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:33.260
  • there is, you know, when you've
  • 00:26:33.260 --> 00:26:34.260
  • just had a new baby,
  • 00:26:34.260 --> 00:26:36.010
  • it's different.
  • 00:26:36.010 --> 00:26:37.060
  • The expectations have to change.
  • 00:26:37.060 --> 00:26:38.200
  • But what the goal of healthy
  • 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.000
  • sexuality is serving
  • 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.120
  • one another.
  • 00:26:41.120 --> 00:26:42.110
  • And it, the Bible's clear.
  • 00:26:42.110 --> 00:26:44.070
  • My body's not mine.
  • 00:26:44.070 --> 00:26:45.110
  • His body's not his.
  • 00:26:45.110 --> 00:26:46.110
  • We belong to one another.
  • 00:26:46.110 --> 00:26:47.170
  • And so we always need to
  • 00:26:47.170 --> 00:26:48.250
  • pay attention.
  • 00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:49.260
  • Are we meeting
  • 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:50.140
  • one another's needs?
  • 00:26:50.140 --> 00:26:51.090
  • And I think that's a brave
  • 00:26:51.090 --> 00:26:52.090
  • question to ask one another
  • 00:26:52.090 --> 00:26:54.040
  • in marriage is,
  • 00:26:54.040 --> 00:26:55.070
  • "Am I meeting your needs?
  • 00:26:55.070 --> 00:26:56.190
  • And if I'm not, how can I do
  • 00:26:56.190 --> 00:26:57.280
  • that better?"
  • 00:26:57.280 --> 00:26:59.080
  • - John: I think one of the
  • 00:26:59.080 --> 00:27:01.170
  • things I've said, it's shocking
  • 00:27:01.170 --> 00:27:03.210
  • to even think this way, but I
  • 00:27:03.210 --> 00:27:05.250
  • think every one of us that are
  • 00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:08.070
  • married needs to become
  • 00:27:08.070 --> 00:27:09.210
  • an expert on sexuality, on
  • 00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:11.200
  • their spouse's sexuality, not
  • 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.000
  • sexuality in general, but their
  • 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:15.170
  • spouse, knowing if she's
  • 00:27:15.170 --> 00:27:18.000
  • fulfilled, knowing if he's
  • 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.250
  • fulfilled.
  • 00:27:19.250 --> 00:27:20.230
  • And if they're not, then not
  • 00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:24.190
  • having sex is actually
  • 00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:25.280
  • detrimental.
  • 00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:26.280
  • It's stealing from your
  • 00:27:26.280 --> 00:27:28.100
  • relationship.
  • 00:27:28.100 --> 00:27:29.130
  • And you know, if you're doing it
  • 00:27:29.130 --> 00:27:31.170
  • just for the sake of being able
  • 00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:33.230
  • to, you know?
  • 00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:35.070
  • - Helen: Tick the box.
  • 00:27:35.070 --> 00:27:36.180
  • - John: Yeah, tick the box,
  • 00:27:36.180 --> 00:27:37.060
  • and be prideful, that's stealing
  • 00:27:37.060 --> 00:27:38.180
  • from your relationship too.
  • 00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:39.280
  • So understanding what sexuality
  • 00:27:39.280 --> 00:27:41.220
  • really is.
  • 00:27:41.220 --> 00:27:42.260
  • It's not about the event.
  • 00:27:42.260 --> 00:27:44.000
  • It's more about the meaning
  • 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:44.280
  • behind the event.
  • 00:27:44.280 --> 00:27:46.000
  • And making sure that we are
  • 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.250
  • - Niyah: Welcome back to
  • 00:27:58.070 --> 00:27:58.230
  • "The Countdown," where we're
  • 00:27:58.230 --> 00:27:59.290
  • counting down to 2017
  • 00:27:59.290 --> 00:28:02.150
  • by looking back at some of
  • 00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:03.230
  • the most amazing shows right
  • 00:28:03.230 --> 00:28:05.080
  • here on the Hillsong Channel.
  • 00:28:05.080 --> 00:28:06.250
  • Now, we just saw a clip from
  • 00:28:06.250 --> 00:28:08.060
  • a show called
  • 00:28:08.060 --> 00:28:09.000
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships."
  • 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.250
  • Now, I know that's pretty steamy
  • 00:28:10.250 --> 00:28:11.240
  • because it got hot here on
  • 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.260
  • the platform as well.
  • 00:28:13.260 --> 00:28:15.090
  • Because there was a question
  • 00:28:15.090 --> 00:28:16.030
  • that was asked on the show to
  • 00:28:16.030 --> 00:28:17.280
  • our experts,
  • 00:28:17.280 --> 00:28:19.250
  • Pastors John and Helen Burns.
  • 00:28:19.250 --> 00:28:21.130
  • They asked them, "How many times
  • 00:28:21.130 --> 00:28:23.100
  • a week should a married couple,"
  • 00:28:23.100 --> 00:28:25.090
  • of course, "be having sex?"
  • 00:28:25.090 --> 00:28:27.160
  • And now, I'm the only single one
  • 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.200
  • on the platform here, so I can't
  • 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.060
  • be answering that question.
  • 00:28:32.060 --> 00:28:34.080
  • But you gentlemen can.
  • 00:28:34.080 --> 00:28:36.020
  • - Ben Little: Well, we are
  • 00:28:36.020 --> 00:28:36.190
  • the resident "Countdown"
  • 00:28:36.190 --> 00:28:37.180
  • specialists.
  • 00:28:37.180 --> 00:28:38.260
  • - Ben Fielding: We're as good
  • 00:28:38.260 --> 00:28:40.010
  • as it gets, right here.
  • 00:28:40.010 --> 00:28:42.140
  • - Niyah: Well, I mean, that's
  • 00:28:42.140 --> 00:28:43.180
  • pretty, you know, it's a awkward
  • 00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:45.040
  • question, you know?
  • 00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:46.080
  • It kinda brings a little bit of
  • 00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:47.260
  • twisting, and--no, not at all?
  • 00:28:47.260 --> 00:28:49.210
  • Well, you go first.
  • 00:28:49.210 --> 00:28:50.110
  • - Ben Fielding: I mean, here's
  • 00:28:50.110 --> 00:28:51.000
  • what we could have done.
  • 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:51.150
  • We could've just left it,
  • 00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:52.030
  • you know, after the ad break.
  • 00:28:52.030 --> 00:28:53.190
  • And then come back and talked
  • 00:28:53.190 --> 00:28:54.080
  • about something different.
  • 00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:55.090
  • But you are the season 2 host of
  • 00:28:55.090 --> 00:28:57.140
  • "Sex, Love & Relationships."
  • 00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:58.190
  • So I can see why you would wanna
  • 00:28:58.190 --> 00:28:59.180
  • draw this out a little bit more.
  • 00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:01.220
  • But we do have an actual expert
  • 00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:02.290
  • on the panel today.
  • 00:29:02.290 --> 00:29:05.180
  • And that, of course, is not Ben.
  • 00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:07.290
  • It is not Niyah.
  • 00:29:07.290 --> 00:29:08.190
  • It's not myself.
  • 00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:09.070
  • But it is, of course,
  • 00:29:09.070 --> 00:29:09.280
  • Robert Fergusson.
  • 00:29:09.280 --> 00:29:11.000
  • So I wanted to ask you,
  • 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:11.210
  • what do you see?
  • 00:29:11.210 --> 00:29:12.170
  • [all laughing]
  • 00:29:12.270 --> 00:29:15.270
  • - Robert: Look, I was trained
  • 00:29:15.270 --> 00:29:17.090
  • as a biology teacher.
  • 00:29:17.090 --> 00:29:18.240
  • So I have had to teach on
  • 00:29:19.080 --> 00:29:22.080
  • sexual reproduction
  • 00:29:22.080 --> 00:29:23.030
  • to teenagers.
  • 00:29:23.030 --> 00:29:24.060
  • And once you have overcome that
  • 00:29:24.060 --> 00:29:26.190
  • trauma in your life, you can
  • 00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:28.050
  • talk about sex any time
  • 00:29:28.050 --> 00:29:30.100
  • you want.
  • 00:29:30.100 --> 00:29:31.160
  • But I think there is always
  • 00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:32.240
  • a context to talk about it.
  • 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.100
  • And I would like to suggest that
  • 00:29:34.100 --> 00:29:37.080
  • "The Countdown" is not
  • 00:29:37.080 --> 00:29:38.230
  • the context in which to talk
  • 00:29:38.230 --> 00:29:41.110
  • about this subject.
  • 00:29:41.110 --> 00:29:42.060
  • So that's my views on
  • 00:29:42.060 --> 00:29:44.240
  • the subject.
  • 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.240
  • - Ben Little: I just feel like
  • 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:46.130
  • we're sharing from
  • 00:29:46.130 --> 00:29:47.020
  • personal experience.
  • 00:29:47.020 --> 00:29:48.100
  • We're not teaching the people.
  • 00:29:48.100 --> 00:29:49.130
  • We're just sharing our stories.
  • 00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:50.260
  • - Ben Fielding: And I think
  • 00:29:50.260 --> 00:29:51.190
  • what Robert's saying is people
  • 00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:52.230
  • don't wanna hear about your
  • 00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:53.100
  • experience.
  • 00:29:53.100 --> 00:29:54.100
  • I think that's very clear.
  • 00:29:54.100 --> 00:29:55.170
  • - Robert: Exactly.
  • 00:29:55.170 --> 00:29:56.090
  • - Ben Fielding: Now, changing
  • 00:29:56.090 --> 00:29:57.070
  • this subject a little bit, which
  • 00:29:57.070 --> 00:29:58.090
  • feels like the right thing to do
  • 00:29:58.090 --> 00:29:59.130
  • at this point.
  • 00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.090
  • Now, Robert, you do lecture
  • 00:30:01.090 --> 00:30:02.210
  • in the college.
  • 00:30:02.210 --> 00:30:03.120
  • - Robert: I do.
  • 00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:04.020
  • - Ben Fielding: And you've been
  • 00:30:04.020 --> 00:30:05.010
  • doing that for many years.
  • 00:30:05.010 --> 00:30:05.260
  • Can you talk a little bit about
  • 00:30:05.260 --> 00:30:06.160
  • the sorts of the things that you
  • 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.190
  • teach on?
  • 00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:09.040
  • - Robert: Well, I've been
  • 00:30:09.040 --> 00:30:09.230
  • teaching in the college for
  • 00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:10.280
  • about 26 years.
  • 00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:13.020
  • And so pretty much, we've talked
  • 00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:15.080
  • about everything, from marriage,
  • 00:30:15.080 --> 00:30:17.150
  • sex, relationships, to theology.
  • 00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:20.120
  • My concentration now is talking
  • 00:30:20.120 --> 00:30:23.010
  • about communication
  • 00:30:23.010 --> 00:30:24.120
  • and preaching.
  • 00:30:24.120 --> 00:30:25.070
  • So that's what I do.
  • 00:30:25.070 --> 00:30:25.290
  • My wife teaches much more
  • 00:30:25.290 --> 00:30:27.090
  • than I do.
  • 00:30:27.090 --> 00:30:28.040
  • So been doing this a long time.
  • 00:30:28.040 --> 00:30:30.240
  • - Ben Fielding: And you also,
  • 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.150
  • which I love, oversee our
  • 00:30:31.150 --> 00:30:33.000
  • song lyric process.
  • 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.040
  • - Robert: I do.
  • 00:30:35.040 --> 00:30:35.210
  • Checking people like you out.
  • 00:30:35.210 --> 00:30:38.000
  • - Ben Fielding: Yes, which
  • 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:38.280
  • I've most appreciated.
  • 00:30:38.280 --> 00:30:40.050
  • - Robert: He writes the songs.
  • 00:30:40.050 --> 00:30:40.240
  • We gotta just make sure they
  • 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:41.110
  • actually came from the Bible.
  • 00:30:41.110 --> 00:30:42.280
  • So--
  • 00:30:42.280 --> 00:30:43.140
  • - Robert: My job is
  • 00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:44.000
  • quality control.
  • 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:44.280
  • - Ben Fielding: Yes, accuracy.
  • 00:30:44.280 --> 00:30:47.040
  • - Robert: Accuracy, clarity,
  • 00:30:47.040 --> 00:30:48.200
  • poetry, and theology.
  • 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:49.290
  • - Ben Fielding: I do remember,
  • 00:30:49.290 --> 00:30:50.180
  • actually, once talking to you on
  • 00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:51.190
  • the phone about a song.
  • 00:30:51.190 --> 00:30:52.230
  • And Robert was pointing out
  • 00:30:52.230 --> 00:30:54.050
  • one of the lyrics.
  • 00:30:54.050 --> 00:30:55.000
  • And I was trying to justify
  • 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.120
  • the lyric, which, big mistake.
  • 00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:57.160
  • - Robert: Big mistake.
  • 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:58.080
  • - Ben Fielding: I thought I was
  • 00:30:58.080 --> 00:30:58.270
  • using a metaphor.
  • 00:30:58.270 --> 00:30:59.120
  • I was like, you know,
  • 00:30:59.120 --> 00:30:59.270
  • "It's a journey.
  • 00:30:59.270 --> 00:31:00.200
  • It's a whatever."
  • 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:01.200
  • And then you came in and said,
  • 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:02.170
  • "Yes.
  • 00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:03.150
  • But the problem with your
  • 00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:04.050
  • journey is there's several
  • 00:31:04.050 --> 00:31:05.130
  • potholes."
  • 00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:07.010
  • And when you get, your metaphor
  • 00:31:07.010 --> 00:31:08.150
  • gets trumped by another
  • 00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:09.210
  • metaphor, you just gotta
  • 00:31:09.210 --> 00:31:10.250
  • concede.
  • 00:31:10.250 --> 00:31:12.000
  • - Ben Little: You gotta
  • 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:12.190
  • take it.
  • 00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:13.070
  • - Ben Fielding: So we changed
  • 00:31:13.070 --> 00:31:13.260
  • the lyric.
  • 00:31:13.260 --> 00:31:14.130
  • - Niyah: Droppin' mics.
  • 00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:15.000
  • I love that, c'mon.
  • 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.020
  • - Ben Fielding: Yeah,
  • 00:31:16.020 --> 00:31:16.180
  • it was big.
  • 00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:17.060
  • It was big.
  • 00:31:17.060 --> 00:31:18.050
  • I've kept writing songs though.
  • 00:31:18.050 --> 00:31:19.260
  • - Robert: You have.
  • 00:31:19.260 --> 00:31:20.160
  • And you do a good job.
  • 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.160
  • - Ben Fielding: Thank you, sir.
  • 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.180
  • - Ben Little: How does that
  • 00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:24.050
  • process work?
  • 00:31:24.050 --> 00:31:24.200
  • Just from a guy, obviously,
  • 00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.030
  • who doesn't write songs.
  • 00:31:26.030 --> 00:31:27.170
  • Do they just send you the song,
  • 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:28.230
  • and you send it back, and it's
  • 00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:30.120
  • a bit of a back and forward?
  • 00:31:30.120 --> 00:31:31.050
  • Or how does it work?
  • 00:31:31.050 --> 00:31:32.220
  • - Robert: It's a lot of back
  • 00:31:32.220 --> 00:31:33.220
  • and forward.
  • 00:31:33.220 --> 00:31:34.210
  • The key is to build really good
  • 00:31:34.210 --> 00:31:35.250
  • relationships with
  • 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.220
  • the songwriters that I can say
  • 00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:39.000
  • pretty much anything I want.
  • 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.170
  • But they work with me before
  • 00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:42.060
  • writing it sometimes, during
  • 00:31:42.060 --> 00:31:44.180
  • writing it, and afterwards.
  • 00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:46.170
  • But basically, we've got to
  • 00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:49.180
  • check out the songs that we
  • 00:31:49.180 --> 00:31:51.050
  • publish.
  • 00:31:51.050 --> 00:31:52.020
  • - Ben Fielding: Some writers,
  • 00:31:52.020 --> 00:31:52.230
  • more troublesome than others.
  • 00:31:52.230 --> 00:31:53.250
  • We shall leave that to
  • 00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:54.200
  • the imagination.
  • 00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.090
  • Now, what we are gonna do
  • 00:31:56.090 --> 00:31:56.270
  • right now is cut to a clip.
  • 00:31:56.270 --> 00:31:58.110
  • And this combines both the
  • 00:31:58.110 --> 00:32:00.050
  • Hillsong College and one of our
  • 00:32:00.050 --> 00:32:02.020
  • great songs, "Transfiguration."
  • 00:32:02.020 --> 00:32:04.170
  • So check this out,
  • 00:32:04.170 --> 00:32:05.170
  • Hillsong College singing
  • 00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:06.170
  • From the cloud you speak
  • 00:32:26.290 --> 00:32:29.290
  • What was veiled
  • 00:32:29.290 --> 00:32:32.040
  • now is seen
  • 00:32:34.130 --> 00:32:37.130
  • Jesus, the image of
  • 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.200
  • Divinity confirmed in
  • 00:32:56.080 --> 00:32:59.080
  • the transfigured Word
  • 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.000
  • A kingdom once concealed
  • 00:33:08.210 --> 00:33:11.210
  • on the earth now revealed
  • 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.160
  • Oh
  • 00:33:19.140 --> 00:33:22.140
  • Holy is the Lord
  • 00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:24.270
  • revealed before my eyes
  • 00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:28.210
  • And my burning heart
  • 00:33:28.210 --> 00:33:30.080
  • can scarcely take it in
  • 00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:35.040
  • As I behold your beauty
  • 00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:37.220
  • with unworthy eyes
  • 00:33:38.250 --> 00:33:41.250
  • the only song
  • 00:33:41.250 --> 00:33:43.050
  • my soul can find to sing is
  • 00:33:44.210 --> 00:33:47.210
  • hallelujah, hallelujah
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  • Lead my longing heart
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  • to the high ground
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  • to the clear view
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  • And in awe I'll be there
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  • beholding you
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  • Holy is the Lord
  • 00:34:27.150 --> 00:34:29.180
  • revealed before my eyes
  • 00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:33.150
  • And my burning heart
  • 00:34:33.150 --> 00:34:35.100
  • can scarcely take it in
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  • As I behold your beauty
  • 00:34:40.060 --> 00:34:42.190
  • with unworthy eyes
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  • the only song my soul
  • 00:34:46.160 --> 00:34:48.240
  • can find to sing is
  • 00:34:49.200 --> 00:34:52.200
  • hallelujah, hallelujah
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  • hallelujah, my King
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  • Hallelujah, hallelujah
  • 00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:12.030
  • hallelujah, my King
  • 00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:18.260
  • Oh, oh
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  • Jesus
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  • Oh, you are my God
  • 00:35:31.290 --> 00:35:34.290
  • Oh, hallelujah
  • 00:35:37.060 --> 00:35:40.060
  • hallelujah
  • 00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:43.270
  • Now I know I have seen
  • 00:35:48.140 --> 00:35:51.140
  • your glory that cannot
  • 00:35:51.140 --> 00:35:54.020
  • be unseen
  • 00:35:54.020 --> 00:35:56.260
  • I am changed
  • 00:35:57.010 --> 00:36:00.030
  • changing still
  • 00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:03.120
  • as I look upon you, Lord
  • 00:36:04.030 --> 00:36:07.030
  • and believe
  • 00:36:07.030 --> 00:36:09.200
  • Now I know I have seen your
  • 00:36:14.180 --> 00:36:17.180
  • glory that cannot be unseen
  • 00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:22.200
  • I am changed
  • 00:36:22.210 --> 00:36:25.210
  • changing still
  • 00:36:26.090 --> 00:36:29.090
  • as I look upon you, Lord
  • 00:36:30.020 --> 00:36:33.020
  • and believe
  • 00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:37.110
  • Holy is the Lord revealed
  • 00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:40.060
  • before my eyes
  • 00:36:40.060 --> 00:36:43.060
  • And my burning heart
  • 00:36:43.060 --> 00:36:44.280
  • can scarcely take it in
  • 00:36:46.210 --> 00:36:49.210
  • As I behold your beauty
  • 00:36:49.210 --> 00:36:52.150
  • with unworthy eyes
  • 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.000
  • the only song my soul
  • 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.150
  • can find to sing
  • 00:37:05.290 --> 00:37:08.290
  • is hallelujah, hallelujah
  • 00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:15.130
  • hallelujah, my King
  • 00:37:18.290 --> 00:37:21.290
  • Hallelujah, hallelujah
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  • [music]
  • 00:37:39.160 --> 00:37:42.160
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, we are
  • 00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:43.040
  • back here on "The Countdown"
  • 00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.030
  • once more.
  • 00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:45.180
  • We have Robert Fergusson with us
  • 00:37:45.180 --> 00:37:46.280
  • still on the panel.
  • 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.290
  • And of course, Robert, you are
  • 00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:49.220
  • the host, the face, the talent
  • 00:37:49.220 --> 00:37:51.090
  • of "What Do You See?"
  • 00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:52.130
  • 2016.
  • 00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:53.190
  • But of course, in 2017 we are
  • 00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:54.290
  • back with a new series.
  • 00:37:54.290 --> 00:37:56.100
  • Can you tell us a little bit
  • 00:37:56.100 --> 00:37:57.220
  • about what we can expect to see?
  • 00:37:57.220 --> 00:38:00.030
  • - Robert: I'm very excited
  • 00:38:00.030 --> 00:38:01.000
  • about "What Do You See?"
  • 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:01.260
  • in 2017.
  • 00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:03.070
  • We are going to be looking
  • 00:38:03.070 --> 00:38:05.000
  • at food.
  • 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.000
  • We're gonna be looking
  • 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:07.150
  • at seasons.
  • 00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:08.170
  • We're gonna be looking at,
  • 00:38:08.170 --> 00:38:09.170
  • "What is life?"
  • 00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:11.220
  • They say that you should never
  • 00:38:11.220 --> 00:38:13.170
  • work with children and animals
  • 00:38:13.170 --> 00:38:15.210
  • on television.
  • 00:38:15.210 --> 00:38:17.080
  • - Ben Fielding: And Ben Little.
  • 00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:17.270
  • - Robert: Well, that's true.
  • 00:38:17.270 --> 00:38:19.020
  • So we're gonna do at least two
  • 00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:21.010
  • out of the three of those.
  • 00:38:21.010 --> 00:38:22.090
  • We're not gonna work with
  • 00:38:22.090 --> 00:38:22.260
  • Ben Little.
  • 00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:23.240
  • Not least because Ben Little has
  • 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.000
  • been getting the name of the
  • 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.090
  • show wrong "What Do You See?"
  • 00:38:28.090 --> 00:38:29.210
  • throughout "The Countdown."
  • 00:38:29.210 --> 00:38:31.120
  • - Ben Fielding: Which is quite
  • 00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:32.010
  • offensive.
  • 00:38:32.010 --> 00:38:32.170
  • - Robert: Well, it concerns me
  • 00:38:32.170 --> 00:38:34.120
  • because I taught him
  • 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:35.240
  • at Bible college.
  • 00:38:35.240 --> 00:38:36.220
  • And "What Do You See?"
  • 00:38:36.220 --> 00:38:38.040
  • is from the Bible, so.
  • 00:38:38.040 --> 00:38:40.220
  • - Ben Fielding: He wasn't there
  • 00:38:40.220 --> 00:38:41.260
  • for those classes, perhaps.
  • 00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:43.070
  • - Robert: Apparently not.
  • 00:38:43.070 --> 00:38:44.050
  • - Ben Fielding: Let's assume
  • 00:38:44.050 --> 00:38:44.280
  • the best.
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  • - Niyah: Well, I'm lookin'
  • 00:38:45.160 --> 00:38:46.140
  • forward to season 2.
  • 00:38:46.140 --> 00:38:47.210
  • I mean, every single time I hear
  • 00:38:47.210 --> 00:38:49.010
  • you speak, I'm literally like,
  • 00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:50.180
  • "Wow, Lord."
  • 00:38:50.180 --> 00:38:51.230
  • God just opens my eyes
  • 00:38:51.230 --> 00:38:53.080
  • and just revelation in.
  • 00:38:53.080 --> 00:38:54.190
  • But the way you, you know,
  • 00:38:54.190 --> 00:38:55.270
  • you put it, and you make it
  • 00:38:55.270 --> 00:38:57.150
  • into this.
  • 00:38:57.150 --> 00:38:58.100
  • Oh, I mean, it's like, "Wow."
  • 00:38:58.100 --> 00:38:59.240
  • It just flips my perspective,
  • 00:38:59.240 --> 00:39:01.120
  • which is awesome.
  • 00:39:01.120 --> 00:39:02.040
  • - Robert: That's the idea.
  • 00:39:02.040 --> 00:39:03.270
  • - Ben Little: I did notice that
  • 00:39:03.270 --> 00:39:04.170
  • you are the talent on your
  • 00:39:04.170 --> 00:39:05.070
  • own show.
  • 00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:05.260
  • Did you work that out yourself,
  • 00:39:05.260 --> 00:39:06.260
  • or was that--?
  • 00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:07.290
  • - Robert: Yes, well, I didn't
  • 00:39:07.290 --> 00:39:09.000
  • consider myself the talent.
  • 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:10.170
  • But if this is the talent on
  • 00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:14.020
  • this show, well, maybe I am.
  • 00:39:14.020 --> 00:39:16.230
  • - Niyah: But that's okay.
  • 00:39:16.230 --> 00:39:17.250
  • Can we--thank you so much, so,
  • 00:39:17.250 --> 00:39:19.280
  • so much, for coming on
  • 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.290
  • "The Countdown" and helping
  • 00:39:20.290 --> 00:39:22.170
  • us count down to 2017.
  • 00:39:22.170 --> 00:39:24.230
  • We've got so much coming up.
  • 00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:25.260
  • But listen, we want you guys to
  • 00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:28.050
  • check this clip out from
  • 00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:29.120
  • Hillsong Kids on
  • 00:39:29.120 --> 00:39:31.040
  • "Church Babies."
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  • - Dan: Hello.
  • 00:39:34.270 --> 00:39:35.150
  • - Dave: Hello, my friend,
  • 00:39:35.150 --> 00:39:36.170
  • my small, tiny, human friend.
  • 00:39:36.180 --> 00:39:39.180
  • It's good to be at church, no?
  • 00:39:39.180 --> 00:39:40.250
  • - Dan: Church.
  • 00:39:40.250 --> 00:39:41.270
  • - Dave: Yes, church, fantastic
  • 00:39:41.270 --> 00:39:43.100
  • place to be.
  • 00:39:43.100 --> 00:39:44.150
  • But let me tell me, I have had
  • 00:39:44.150 --> 00:39:46.270
  • rough week.
  • 00:39:46.270 --> 00:39:48.030
  • Nobody listens to me.
  • 00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:50.150
  • - Dan: Listen.
  • 00:39:50.150 --> 00:39:51.070
  • - Dave: Yes, listen.
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  • Except for you, my friend.
  • 00:39:52.130 --> 00:39:54.110
  • You listen to my problems.
  • 00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:56.150
  • - Dan: Problems.
  • 00:39:56.150 --> 00:39:57.230
  • - Dave: Exactly.
  • 00:39:57.230 --> 00:39:58.160
  • Problems, my friend.
  • 00:39:58.160 --> 00:39:59.230
  • So let me tell you, friend,
  • 00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:01.130
  • number one problem I have
  • 00:40:01.130 --> 00:40:03.280
  • started last week at church.
  • 00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.150
  • You see, they say to me,
  • 00:40:06.150 --> 00:40:07.140
  • "Where is your faith?"
  • 00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:10.010
  • - Dan: Faith.
  • 00:40:10.010 --> 00:40:11.030
  • - Dave: Exactly, my friend.
  • 00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:12.030
  • Where is my faith?
  • 00:40:12.030 --> 00:40:13.100
  • And I say to them, in my mind,
  • 00:40:13.100 --> 00:40:15.270
  • "I don't know where faith is."
  • 00:40:15.270 --> 00:40:18.020
  • - Dan: No.
  • 00:40:18.020 --> 00:40:19.100
  • - Dave: Hopefully, I have not
  • 00:40:19.100 --> 00:40:20.090
  • lost it.
  • 00:40:20.090 --> 00:40:21.050
  • So I look at home in bedroom,
  • 00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:23.090
  • in bathroom, in, like--
  • 00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:25.220
  • - Dan: Potty!
  • 00:40:25.220 --> 00:40:27.090
  • - Dave: In potty.
  • 00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:28.110
  • Not there, just smell.
  • 00:40:28.110 --> 00:40:30.050
  • And so I am perplexed about
  • 00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:32.080
  • problem 'cause I am looking
  • 00:40:32.080 --> 00:40:34.180
  • everywhere.
  • 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:36.090
  • I look outside.
  • 00:40:36.090 --> 00:40:37.270
  • I look inside.
  • 00:40:37.270 --> 00:40:40.030
  • - Dan: Inside.
  • 00:40:40.030 --> 00:40:41.290
  • - Dave: What's that, my friend?
  • 00:40:41.290 --> 00:40:43.070
  • - Dan: Faith inside.
  • 00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:47.090
  • - Dave: I see.
  • 00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:49.040
  • My friend with the small
  • 00:40:49.040 --> 00:40:50.100
  • stature, are you telling to me
  • 00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:52.160
  • that my faith is not something
  • 00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:54.160
  • I lose, maybe like a toy or
  • 00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:57.020
  • a sock, but it is something that
  • 00:40:57.020 --> 00:40:59.040
  • is within me, it's in my heart,
  • 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:01.270
  • and it's in my soul, something
  • 00:41:01.270 --> 00:41:03.160
  • I believe?
  • 00:41:03.160 --> 00:41:04.230
  • Is that what you're telling
  • 00:41:04.230 --> 00:41:06.020
  • to me, my friend with
  • 00:41:06.020 --> 00:41:07.010
  • the small stature?
  • 00:41:07.010 --> 00:41:08.030
  • - Dan: Mmm.
  • 00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:11.160
  • - Dave: I'm going to take that
  • 00:41:11.160 --> 00:41:12.120
  • as a "Yes."
  • 00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:14.060
  • - Ben Fielding: Well, welcome
  • 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:21.160
  • back to "The Countdown."
  • 00:41:21.160 --> 00:41:22.110
  • It is great to be back.
  • 00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:24.050
  • It's great to have you back.
  • 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:25.140
  • - Ben Little: Yes.
  • 00:41:25.140 --> 00:41:26.020
  • - Ben Fielding: And we are
  • 00:41:26.020 --> 00:41:26.220
  • nearly at 2017.
  • 00:41:26.220 --> 00:41:29.030
  • And just, you know, even as this
  • 00:41:29.030 --> 00:41:30.080
  • episode's been happening,
  • 00:41:30.080 --> 00:41:31.280
  • we've got a little bit closer.
  • 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.020
  • Can you feel it, Niyah?
  • 00:41:33.020 --> 00:41:34.250
  • - Niyah: I can feel it.
  • 00:41:34.250 --> 00:41:35.120
  • I can feel it.
  • 00:41:35.120 --> 00:41:36.110
  • I'm looking, what are you
  • 00:41:36.110 --> 00:41:37.000
  • looking most to in the new year?
  • 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.240
  • - Ben Fielding: What am I
  • 00:41:38.240 --> 00:41:39.120
  • looking most to?
  • 00:41:39.120 --> 00:41:41.170
  • I'll be looking to the Lord.
  • 00:41:41.170 --> 00:41:43.160
  • - Niyah: I hope so.
  • 00:41:43.160 --> 00:41:45.030
  • But what are you looking most
  • 00:41:45.030 --> 00:41:46.070
  • forward to?
  • 00:41:46.070 --> 00:41:47.170
  • - Ben Fielding: Yes,
  • 00:41:47.170 --> 00:41:48.020
  • great question.
  • 00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:48.270
  • Look, I don't know.
  • 00:41:48.270 --> 00:41:50.110
  • I think, Ben Little, you should
  • 00:41:50.110 --> 00:41:51.210
  • answer this.
  • 00:41:51.210 --> 00:41:52.160
  • You've got a big year planned
  • 00:41:52.160 --> 00:41:53.040
  • for 2017.
  • 00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:54.010
  • - Ben Little: Got a big year
  • 00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:54.190
  • planned.
  • 00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:55.030
  • We've got the show on channel,
  • 00:41:55.030 --> 00:41:56.200
  • "Spheres," that's gonna be
  • 00:41:56.200 --> 00:41:57.160
  • phenomenal.
  • 00:41:57.160 --> 00:41:58.130
  • - Ben Fielding: Another
  • 00:41:58.130 --> 00:41:59.010
  • shameless plug.
  • 00:41:59.010 --> 00:41:59.170
  • - Ben Little: Yeah, we've got
  • 00:41:59.170 --> 00:42:00.070
  • Robert's show, "What Are You
  • 00:42:00.070 --> 00:42:01.070
  • Holding in Your Hand?"
  • 00:42:01.070 --> 00:42:02.030
  • Honestly, I just, there's
  • 00:42:02.030 --> 00:42:03.020
  • so much to look forward to.
  • 00:42:03.020 --> 00:42:04.150
  • There's, we've got
  • 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:06.000
  • the, Brian's show.
  • 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.170
  • We've got Colour.
  • 00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:08.270
  • I mean, it's exciting,
  • 00:42:08.270 --> 00:42:10.010
  • a lot coming up.
  • 00:42:10.010 --> 00:42:11.060
  • - Niyah: I love it.
  • 00:42:11.060 --> 00:42:12.020
  • I love it.
  • 00:42:12.020 --> 00:42:12.190
  • And we have "The Best of
  • 00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.050
  • Hillsong Conference."
  • 00:42:14.050 --> 00:42:15.140
  • That's what's coming up,
  • 00:42:15.140 --> 00:42:16.230
  • actually, right now, a clip that
  • 00:42:16.230 --> 00:42:18.000
  • we want you guys to see.
  • 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.020
  • So it's a really short clip,
  • 00:42:20.020 --> 00:42:20.190
  • - Brian: Let me tell you
  • 00:42:23.140 --> 00:42:24.000
  • a little bit about the heart
  • 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:24.280
  • behind Hillsong Worship.
  • 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.140
  • When we began as a church in
  • 00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:27.290
  • a little school hall, I really
  • 00:42:27.290 --> 00:42:29.160
  • believed we were called to be
  • 00:42:29.160 --> 00:42:30.220
  • a church to influence and impact
  • 00:42:30.220 --> 00:42:32.150
  • the way people worshiped Jesus.
  • 00:42:32.150 --> 00:42:34.200
  • The message of Jesus is
  • 00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:35.250
  • a timeless message.
  • 00:42:35.250 --> 00:42:37.060
  • And I believe there is power in
  • 00:42:37.060 --> 00:42:38.150
  • music that proclaims this
  • 00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:39.200
  • good news.
  • 00:42:39.200 --> 00:42:41.000
  • These are not just songs.
  • 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.160
  • A lot of heart and passion go
  • 00:42:42.160 --> 00:42:44.050
  • into the making of all our
  • 00:42:44.050 --> 00:42:45.170
  • albums, with the intent to lift
  • 00:42:45.170 --> 00:42:46.290
  • people's eyes heavenwards.
  • 00:42:46.290 --> 00:42:48.170
  • We really want to see people
  • 00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:49.220
  • like you worship and glorify
  • 00:42:49.220 --> 00:42:52.040
  • Jesus wherever you are.
  • 00:42:52.040 --> 00:42:53.150
  • My prayer for you today is that
  • 00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:55.230
  • you can really connect with
  • 00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:57.040
  • the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • 00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:58.240
  • He loves you.
  • 00:42:58.240 --> 00:42:59.270
  • And I believe the words of these
  • 00:42:59.270 --> 00:43:01.040
  • songs can really lift your
  • 00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:02.200
  • - Niyah: Yes, worship,
  • 00:43:06.210 --> 00:43:07.190
  • worship by Hillsong.
  • 00:43:07.190 --> 00:43:08.270
  • I love it.
  • 00:43:08.270 --> 00:43:09.190
  • I love, love worship.
  • 00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:10.250
  • - Ben Fielding: I love our
  • 00:43:10.250 --> 00:43:11.120
  • senior pastor because he's such
  • 00:43:11.120 --> 00:43:12.090
  • a believer in worship and in
  • 00:43:12.090 --> 00:43:14.040
  • song.
  • 00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:14.220
  • And in many respects, you know,
  • 00:43:14.220 --> 00:43:16.000
  • as somebody that's involved in
  • 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.040
  • our worship team, being in
  • 00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:18.060
  • a church where your pastor is
  • 00:43:18.060 --> 00:43:19.290
  • absolutely, like, for worship
  • 00:43:19.290 --> 00:43:21.260
  • makes it such a joy to serve on
  • 00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:23.000
  • that kind of team.
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  • Now, we've got some incredible
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  • songs that have been written
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  • this year.
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  • And we're about to see one
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  • right now before we leave.
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  • But before we do, we wanna
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  • encourage you to make sure that
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  • you are back here with
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  • "The Countdown"
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  • next time we're here.
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  • We've got some incredible guests
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  • again coming in to the program.
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  • - Niyah: Yeah, we're not done.
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  • We're still counting down to
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  • the new year.
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  • We've got some more guests
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  • for you.
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  • We're keepin' it really excited.
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  • The Young & Free guys are
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  • actually comin' up, you know
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  • what I'm saying, some people.
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  • So if you're feeling really
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  • young and free right now,
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  • you make sure you wanna tune
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  • into that.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Or if you need
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  • a bit of inspiration.
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  • - Niyah: To feel young
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  • and free, yeah.
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  • You don't wanna miss out.
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  • - Ben Fielding: Okay, so we're
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  • gonna cut right now to a clip
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  • to see "Look to the Son,"
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  • a song by Hillsong Worship.
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  • And then we'll see you back here
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  • again on "The Countdown."
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  • Let's do it.
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  • - male announcer: Liftoff,
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • Set our eyes on our Savior
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  • See the image of love
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  • Sing his praises forever
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • - JD: C'mon, are you ready
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  • to praise God tonight?
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  • Salvation tearing through
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  • the dead of night
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  • See the kingdom
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  • burst into color
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  • at the speed of light
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  • Freedom shaking up
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  • the atmosphere
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  • as the shadows fade
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  • into nothing
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  • as the day appears
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  • C'mon, lift your voice tonight.
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  • Beyond the skies above
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  • love reaching out for us
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  • the everlasting one
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  • Jesus our God
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • Set our eyes on our Savior
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  • See the image of love
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  • Sing his praises forever
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  • Creation waking up
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  • to kingdom come
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  • See the hope of heaven
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  • shining like the rising sun
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  • Now forever lifted up
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  • from death to life
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  • There's no fear in love
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  • and no darkness
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  • in his endless light
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  • Jesus
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  • beyond the skies above
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  • love reaching out for us
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  • the everlasting one
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  • Jesus our God
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  • Everybody!
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • Set our eyes on our Savior
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  • See the image of love
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  • Sing his praises forever
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • Beyond the skies above
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  • love reaching out for us
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  • the everlasting one
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  • Jesus our God
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  • C'mon.
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  • Beyond the skies above
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  • love reaching out for us
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  • the everlasting one
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  • Jesus our God
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  • Oh, we look to the--
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • yeah, yeah
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  • Oh, we look to the Son
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  • Set our eyes on our Savior
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  • See the image of love
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  • Sing his praises forever
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  • C'mon, his name is Jesus!
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