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Charles Stanley: Standing Strong

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October 3, 2020
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Matt and Laurie visit Dr. Charles Stanley in his Atlanta Studio to discuss his life and legacy. Dr. Stanley shares his biggest life lesson which is to obey God and leave all the consequences to Him.

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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: DR. CHARLES
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  • - MALE ANNOUNCER: DR. CHARLESSTANLEY IS THE SENIOR PASTOR OF
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  • STANLEY IS THE SENIOR PASTOR OFFIRST BAPTIST CHURCH ATLANTA,
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  • FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH ATLANTA,FOUNDER OF IN TOUCH MINISTRIES,
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  • FOUNDER OF IN TOUCH MINISTRIES,AND A "NEW YORK TIMES"
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  • AND A "NEW YORK TIMES"BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, WHO HAS
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, WHO HASWRITTEN MORE THAN 60 BOOKS AND
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  • WRITTEN MORE THAN 60 BOOKS ANDHAS SOLD MORE THAN 10 MILLION
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  • HAS SOLD MORE THAN 10 MILLIONCOPIES.
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  • COPIES.HIS TEACHINGS COULD BE HEARD
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  • HIS TEACHINGS COULD BE HEARDDAILY ON "IN TOUCH WITH
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  • DAILY ON "IN TOUCH WITHDR. CHARLES STANLEY," RADIO AND
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  • DR. CHARLES STANLEY," RADIO ANDTELEVISION BROADCASTS ON MORE
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  • TELEVISION BROADCASTS ON MORETHAN 2.800 STATIONS AROUND THE
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  • THAN 2.800 STATIONS AROUND THEWORLD.
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  • WORLD.- DR. CHARLES STANLEY: I'M JUST
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  • - DR. CHARLES STANLEY: I'M JUSTSEEING GOD WORK IN EVERY SINGLE
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  • SEEING GOD WORK IN EVERY SINGLECIRCUMSTANCE.
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  • CIRCUMSTANCE.IF YOU OBEY HIM, YOU CAN'T LOSE.
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  • IF YOU OBEY HIM, YOU CAN'T LOSE.HOW CAN YOU LOSE THE GOD WHO
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  • HOW CAN YOU LOSE THE GOD WHOCREATED IT ALL?
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  • CREATED IT ALL?- ANNOUNCER: HE DEMONSTRATES A
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  • - ANNOUNCER: HE DEMONSTRATES AKEEN AWARENESS OF PEOPLE'S NEEDS
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  • KEEN AWARENESS OF PEOPLE'S NEEDSAND PROVIDES CHRIST-CENTERED,
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  • AND PROVIDES CHRIST-CENTERED,BIBLICALLY BASED PRINCIPLES FOR
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  • BIBLICALLY BASED PRINCIPLES FOREVERYDAY LIFE.
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  • EVERYDAY LIFE.NOW PLEASE WELCOME DR. CHARLES
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON
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  • - ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON"PRAISE," FROM NASHVILLE,
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  • "PRAISE," FROM NASHVILLE,TENNESSEE, FOUNDER OF IN TOUCH
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  • TENNESSEE, FOUNDER OF IN TOUCHMINISTRIES, SENIOR PASTOR AND
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  • MINISTRIES, SENIOR PASTOR ANDBEST-SELLING AUTHOR,
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  • BEST-SELLING AUTHOR,DR. CHARLES STANLEY.
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WHAT AN HONOR IT
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  • - MATT CROUCH: WHAT AN HONOR ITIS TODAY TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS
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  • RIGHT HERE FROM ATLANTA,
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  • RIGHT HERE FROM ATLANTA,GEORGIA, AND THE
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  • GEORGIA, AND THEIN TOUCH STUDIOS.
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  • THANK YOU FOR SITTING WITH US
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  • THANK YOU FOR SITTING WITH USFOR THE NEXT ONE HOUR OR SO.
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  • FOR THE NEXT ONE HOUR OR SO.- LAURIE CROUCH: WHAT AN HONOR.
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: WHAT AN HONOR.- MATT: IT IS FANTASTIC.
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  • - MATT: IT IS FANTASTIC.NOW, LET ME JUST BRAG ON
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  • NOW, LET ME JUST BRAG ONDR. STANLEY FOR JUST A SECOND.
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  • DR. STANLEY FOR JUST A SECOND.WE BELIEVE YOU'RE TBN'S
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  • WE BELIEVE YOU'RE TBN'SLONGEST-RUNNING BROADCAST.
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  • LONGEST-RUNNING BROADCAST.YOUR RATINGS ON TBN ARE HIGHER
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  • YOUR RATINGS ON TBN ARE HIGHERTHAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN, AND WE
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  • THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN, AND WEFEEL LIKE IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO
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  • FEEL LIKE IT'S A GREAT HONOR TOBE WITH YOU TODAY AND TO WELCOME
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  • BE WITH YOU TODAY AND TO WELCOMEYOU TO THIS "PRAISE" PROGRAM,
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  • YOU TO THIS "PRAISE" PROGRAM,BUT FROM YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOUR
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  • BUT FROM YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOUROWN HOME HERE, IN TOUCH STUDIOS.
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  • OWN HOME HERE, IN TOUCH STUDIOS.- CHARLES: WELL, THANK YOU VERY
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  • - CHARLES: WELL, THANK YOU VERYMUCH.
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  • MUCH.I APPRECIATE THAT.
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  • I APPRECIATE THAT.- MATT: OKAY, WE FOUND A THEME
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  • - MATT: OKAY, WE FOUND A THEMEAS WE WERE BACK IN THE
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  • AS WE WERE BACK IN THEGREENROOM.
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  • GREENROOM.FIRST OF ALL, WHEREVER YOU'RE
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  • FIRST OF ALL, WHEREVER YOU'REWATCHING, YOU'RE GONNA LOVE
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  • WATCHING, YOU'RE GONNA LOVETHIS, AND EVERYONE LOVES
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  • THIS, AND EVERYONE LOVESDR. STANLEY, SO, I MEAN, CALL
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  • DR. STANLEY, SO, I MEAN, CALLSOMEBODY.
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  • SOMEBODY.- LAURIE: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
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  • - LAURIE: CAN I ASK A QUESTION?WHY DO YOU THINK YOU DO SO WELL
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  • WHY DO YOU THINK YOU DO SO WELLON TELEVISION?
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  • ON TELEVISION?WHY DO YOU THINK NOW-- YOU KNOW,
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  • WHY DO YOU THINK NOW-- YOU KNOW,YOU'RE 85-GOOD-LOOKIN'-YEARS
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  • YOU'RE 85-GOOD-LOOKIN'-YEARSOLD.
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  • OLD.WHY DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE
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  • - CHARLES: WELL, I DON'T KNOW
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  • - CHARLES: WELL, I DON'T KNOWWHY EXACTLY EXCEPT I THINK-- YOU
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  • WHY EXACTLY EXCEPT I THINK-- YOUWOULD NORMALLY THINK THAT AGE
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  • WOULD NORMALLY THINK THAT AGEWOULD BE A DISADVANTAGE, BUT IN
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  • WOULD BE A DISADVANTAGE, BUT INTHE SOCIETY IN WHICH WE LIVE,
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  • THE SOCIETY IN WHICH WE LIVE,AGE IS AN ADVANTAGE, THAT IS, IF
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  • AGE IS AN ADVANTAGE, THAT IS, IFYOU HAVE THE TRUTH AND YOU'RE
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  • YOU HAVE THE TRUTH AND YOU'REABLE TO SPEAK IT AND YOU HAVE
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  • PEOPLE LISTEN.
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  • PEOPLE LISTEN.- LAURIE: WELL, TO ME, IT JUST
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  • - LAURIE: WELL, TO ME, IT JUSTSEEMS LIKE THERE IS A HUNGER FOR
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  • SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A HUNGER FORAN ELDER STATESMAN FOR-- I MEAN,
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  • AN ELDER STATESMAN FOR-- I MEAN,TALK ABOUT THE HALL OF FAITH, I
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  • TALK ABOUT THE HALL OF FAITH, ITHINK THIS MAN WOULD BE RIGHT
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  • THINK THIS MAN WOULD BE RIGHTTHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF 'EM, IN
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  • THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF 'EM, INHEBREWS 11 AND 12, BUT I JUST
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  • HEBREWS 11 AND 12, BUT I JUSTTHINK THAT'S AMAZING.
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  • THINK THAT'S AMAZING.I LOVE YOU, AND I JUST THINK
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  • I LOVE YOU, AND I JUST THINKTHAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THE
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  • THAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THEYOUNGER GENERATIONS NEED YOUR
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  • YOUNGER GENERATIONS NEED YOURVOICE IN THEIR LIFE, AND I THINK
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  • VOICE IN THEIR LIFE, AND I THINKTHAT'S VERY EVIDENT.
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  • THAT'S VERY EVIDENT.- MATT: COULD YOU GIVE ME A
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  • - MATT: COULD YOU GIVE ME ACOMPLIMENT, KIND OF, LIKE YOU'RE
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  • COMPLIMENT, KIND OF, LIKE YOU'REGIVING HIM TOO?
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  • GIVING HIM TOO?- LAURIE: I JUST THINK YOU'RE
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  • - LAURIE: I JUST THINK YOU'REALWAYS ADORABLE.
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  • ALWAYS ADORABLE.- MATT: I'M FEELING A LITTLE
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  • - MATT: I'M FEELING A LITTLEJEALOUS RIGHT NOW SO--
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  • JEALOUS RIGHT NOW SO--[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]- LAURIE: WELL, LET'S JUST PUT
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  • - LAURIE: WELL, LET'S JUST PUTIT THIS WAY: I HOPE YOU LOOK
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  • IT THIS WAY: I HOPE YOU LOOKLIKE HIM WHEN YOU'RE 85.
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  • LIKE HIM WHEN YOU'RE 85.- MATT: YEAH, I DO TOO.
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  • - MATT: YEAH, I DO TOO.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]OKAY, WE'LL GET THERE.
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  • OKAY, WE'LL GET THERE.- CHARLES: OH, ME.
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  • - CHARLES: OH, ME.- MATT: BACK IN THE BACK, WE
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  • - MATT: BACK IN THE BACK, WEFOUND A BIT OF A THEME.
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  • FOUND A BIT OF A THEME.IT'S ONE OF THE LIFE LESSONS, IN
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  • IT'S ONE OF THE LIFE LESSONS, INESSENCE, AND ONE OF THE THEMATIC
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  • ESSENCE, AND ONE OF THE THEMATICTHINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA TOUCH
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  • THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA TOUCHON, KIND OF, "THE GOOD, THE BAD,
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  • ON, KIND OF, "THE GOOD, THE BAD,AND THE UGLY," HERE.
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  • AND THE UGLY," HERE.IT'S ALL MAINLY GONNA BE GOOD,
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  • IT'S ALL MAINLY GONNA BE GOOD,BUT "OBEY GOD, LEAVE ALL THE
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  • BUT "OBEY GOD, LEAVE ALL THECONSEQUENCES TO HIM."
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  • CONSEQUENCES TO HIM."- CHARLES: CORRECT.
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  • - CHARLES: CORRECT.- MATT: WHERE DID THAT COME
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  • - MATT: WHERE DID THAT COMEFROM?
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  • FROM?- CHARLES: WELL, WHEN I WAS 18,
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  • - CHARLES: WELL, WHEN I WAS 18,I HAD FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, AND
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  • I HAD FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, ANDI WAS GOIN' TO COLLEGE, AND I
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  • I WAS GOIN' TO COLLEGE, AND ITHOUGHT, "MY GRANDFATHER, I'D
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  • THOUGHT, "MY GRANDFATHER, I'DONLY SEEN HIM TWICE BEFORE."
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  • ONLY SEEN HIM TWICE BEFORE."HE'D BEEN A PENTECOSTAL PREACHER
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  • HE'D BEEN A PENTECOSTAL PREACHERFOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND HE WAS
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  • FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND HE WASIN HIS 70s AT THIS TIME, AND SO
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  • IN HIS 70s AT THIS TIME, AND SOI THOUGHT, "WELL, I NEED TO GO
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  • I THOUGHT, "WELL, I NEED TO GOTALK TO MY GRANDDAD," FOR SOME
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  • TALK TO MY GRANDDAD," FOR SOMEREASON, SO I WENT DOWN, AND I
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  • REASON, SO I WENT DOWN, AND ISPENT A WEEK WITH HIM, AND I
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  • SPENT A WEEK WITH HIM, AND ITOLD HIM, I SAID, "I JUST WANNA
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  • TOLD HIM, I SAID, "I JUST WANNALISTEN TO YA."
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  • LISTEN TO YA."HE'D BEEN A PASTOR ALL
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  • HE'D BEEN A PASTOR ALLTHESE YEARS.
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  • THESE YEARS.SO WE WOULD SIT ON HIS
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  • SO WE WOULD SIT ON HISSCREENED-IN BACK PORCH IN SILER
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  • SCREENED-IN BACK PORCH IN SILERCITY, NORTH CAROLINA, AND I
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  • CITY, NORTH CAROLINA, AND IWOULD JUST ASK HIM QUESTIONS, I
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  • WOULD JUST ASK HIM QUESTIONS, IMEAN, JUST ALL KIND OF
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  • MEAN, JUST ALL KIND OFQUESTIONS, AND HE WOULD SIT
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  • QUESTIONS, AND HE WOULD SITTHERE AND TALK.
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  • THERE AND TALK.WE'D GO EAT LUNCH AND COME
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  • WE'D GO EAT LUNCH AND COMEBACK AND SIT DOWN, AND SO, IN
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  • BACK AND SIT DOWN, AND SO, INTHE PROCESS OF ALL THE THINGS HE
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  • THE PROCESS OF ALL THE THINGS HESAID TO ME, HE SAID THIS: HE
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  • SAID TO ME, HE SAID THIS: HESAYS, "WHEN YOU'RE GOIN' THROUGH
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  • SAYS, "WHEN YOU'RE GOIN' THROUGHA HARD TIME," HE SAID, PUT IT
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  • A HARD TIME," HE SAID, PUT ITTHIS WAY, "IF GOD TELLS YOU TO
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  • THIS WAY, "IF GOD TELLS YOU TOHEAD TOWARD A BRICK WALL AND YOU
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  • HEAD TOWARD A BRICK WALL AND YOUHEAD FOR THE WALL-- AND WHEN YOU
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  • HEAD FOR THE WALL-- AND WHEN YOUGET THERE, GOD'LL MAKE A HOLE
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  • GET THERE, GOD'LL MAKE A HOLEFOR IT."
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  • FOR IT."SO I CHUCKLED LIKE THAT
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  • SO I CHUCKLED LIKE THATAND DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING
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  • AND DIDN'T THINK ANYTHINGABOUT IT, BUT ON MY WAY HOME,
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  • ABOUT IT, BUT ON MY WAY HOME,THINKIN' ABOUT THAT--
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  • THINKIN' ABOUT THAT--I CAN HARDLY TELL YOU--
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  • I CAN HARDLY TELL YOU--IT'S LIKE GOD SAID TO ME--
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  • IT'S LIKE GOD SAID TO ME--HERE'S WHAT HE SAID:
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  • HERE'S WHAT HE SAID:OBEY GOD AND LEAVE ALL THE
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  • OBEY GOD AND LEAVE ALL THECONSEQUENCES TO HIM, AND "I WANT
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  • CONSEQUENCES TO HIM, AND "I WANTYOU TO REMEMBER THAT."
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  • YOU TO REMEMBER THAT.""YES, LORD, I WILL."
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  • "YES, LORD, I WILL."- MATT: SO NOT TO START HERE,
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  • - MATT: SO NOT TO START HERE,BUT YOU JUST SAID, "IN A TOUGH
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  • BUT YOU JUST SAID, "IN A TOUGHTIME."
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  • TIME."THERE'S BEEN A FEW TOUGH TIMES
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  • THERE'S BEEN A FEW TOUGH TIMESTHAT YOU'VE LIVED THROUGH.
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  • THAT YOU'VE LIVED THROUGH.YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE OF
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  • YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE OF'EM.
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  • 'EM.WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF 'EM.
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  • WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF 'EM.I'M GONNA ASK YOU A TOUGH
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  • I'M GONNA ASK YOU A TOUGHTHING-- AND TRUST GOD, OBEY GOD,
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  • THING-- AND TRUST GOD, OBEY GOD,AND LEAVE THE CONSEQUENCES.
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  • AND LEAVE THE CONSEQUENCES.YOU GOT A REALLY HORRIBLE PHONE
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  • YOU GOT A REALLY HORRIBLE PHONECALL ONE MORNING FROM YOUR
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  • CALL ONE MORNING FROM YOURFORMER WIFE.
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  • FORMER WIFE.TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
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  • TELL ME ABOUT THAT.- CHARLES: WELL, IT WAS A
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  • - CHARLES: WELL, IT WAS ASURPRISE BUT NOT-- IN A WAY, IT
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  • SURPRISE BUT NOT-- IN A WAY, ITWASN'T.
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  • WASN'T.SHE HAD LEFT ME FOR QUITE SOME
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  • SHE HAD LEFT ME FOR QUITE SOMETIME, AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY,
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  • TIME, AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY,"WELL, HOW CAN YOU PREACH IF
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  • "WELL, HOW CAN YOU PREACH IFYOUR WIFE'S GONE?"
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  • YOUR WIFE'S GONE?"I SAY, "WELL, BECAUSE GOD HADN'T
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  • I SAY, "WELL, BECAUSE GOD HADN'TTOLD ME TO DO ANYTHING ELSE."
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  • TOLD ME TO DO ANYTHING ELSE."AND SO THAT WENT ON FOR A WHILE
  • 00:06:04.419 --> 00:06:06.054
  • AND SO THAT WENT ON FOR A WHILEUNTIL, FINALLY, SHE DECIDED THAT
  • 00:06:06.054 --> 00:06:09.891
  • UNTIL, FINALLY, SHE DECIDED THATSHE WANTED TO DIVORCE.
  • 00:06:09.891 --> 00:06:10.559
  • SHE WANTED TO DIVORCE.AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
  • 00:06:10.559 --> 00:06:12.561
  • AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHINGCRITICAL, NECESSARILY, TO SAY
  • 00:06:12.561 --> 00:06:14.696
  • CRITICAL, NECESSARILY, TO SAYABOUT ME, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
  • 00:06:14.696 --> 00:06:18.266
  • ABOUT ME, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLEALWAYS SUSPECT THINGS, AND SO,
  • 00:06:18.266 --> 00:06:20.669
  • ALWAYS SUSPECT THINGS, AND SO,FINALLY, SHE DECIDED, "I JUST
  • 00:06:20.669 --> 00:06:22.304
  • FINALLY, SHE DECIDED, "I JUSTDON'T WANNA LIVE WITH YOU ANY
  • 00:06:22.304 --> 00:06:25.474
  • DON'T WANNA LIVE WITH YOU ANYLONGER, AND I WANT A DIVORCE."
  • 00:06:25.474 --> 00:06:27.876
  • LONGER, AND I WANT A DIVORCE."SO WHEN THAT WORD GOT OUT, YOU
  • 00:06:27.876 --> 00:06:29.411
  • SO WHEN THAT WORD GOT OUT, YOUKNOW, PEOPLE SAID, "WELL, YOU
  • 00:06:29.411 --> 00:06:30.879
  • KNOW, PEOPLE SAID, "WELL, YOUCAN'T BE A PASTOR OF A CHURCH
  • 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.415
  • CAN'T BE A PASTOR OF A CHURCHWITH YOUR WIFE GONE."
  • 00:06:33.415 --> 00:06:34.783
  • WITH YOUR WIFE GONE."AND SO I'D GET DOWN TO PRAY,
  • 00:06:34.783 --> 00:06:36.117
  • AND SO I'D GET DOWN TO PRAY,AND THE LORD JUST TELL ME,
  • 00:06:36.117 --> 00:06:37.452
  • AND THE LORD JUST TELL ME,"YOU KEEP DOIN' WHAT I'VE
  • 00:06:37.452 --> 00:06:38.119
  • "YOU KEEP DOIN' WHAT I'VECALLED YOU TO DO UNTIL I
  • 00:06:38.119 --> 00:06:39.387
  • CALLED YOU TO DO UNTIL ITELL YOU TO DO SOMETHIN' ELSE."
  • 00:06:39.387 --> 00:06:41.022
  • TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHIN' ELSE."AND SO, FINALLY, WHEN HER
  • 00:06:41.022 --> 00:06:42.257
  • AND SO, FINALLY, WHEN HERATTORNEY CALLED ME AND TOLD ME
  • 00:06:42.257 --> 00:06:46.194
  • ATTORNEY CALLED ME AND TOLD MEIT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AND WHERE
  • 00:06:46.194 --> 00:06:48.563
  • IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AND WHERESHOULD HE LEAVE THE PAPERS, AND
  • 00:06:48.563 --> 00:06:49.865
  • SHOULD HE LEAVE THE PAPERS, ANDI TOLD HIM, I PUT THE PHONE
  • 00:06:49.865 --> 00:06:50.966
  • I TOLD HIM, I PUT THE PHONEDOWN, AND I HAD THIS
  • 00:06:50.966 --> 00:06:53.235
  • DOWN, AND I HAD THISOVERWHELMING SENSE OF PEACE.
  • 00:06:53.235 --> 00:06:54.302
  • OVERWHELMING SENSE OF PEACE.I THOUGHT, "GOD, I'VE OBEYED
  • 00:06:54.302 --> 00:06:57.038
  • I THOUGHT, "GOD, I'VE OBEYEDYOU.
  • 00:06:57.038 --> 00:06:59.107
  • YOU.THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
  • 00:06:59.107 --> 00:07:01.510
  • THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.NOW I'M GONNA TRUST YOU."
  • 00:07:01.510 --> 00:07:02.143
  • NOW I'M GONNA TRUST YOU."AND, NATURALLY, SOME FOLKS
  • 00:07:02.143 --> 00:07:03.044
  • AND, NATURALLY, SOME FOLKSIN THE CHURCH GOT UPSET,
  • 00:07:03.044 --> 00:07:04.412
  • IN THE CHURCH GOT UPSET,AND I TOLD THEM,
  • 00:07:04.412 --> 00:07:05.680
  • AND I TOLD THEM,I SAID, "WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.115
  • I SAID, "WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?GOD HADN'T TOLD ME TO DO
  • 00:07:07.115 --> 00:07:08.116
  • GOD HADN'T TOLD ME TO DOANYTHING BUT WHAT I'M DOIN', SO
  • 00:07:08.116 --> 00:07:09.684
  • ANYTHING BUT WHAT I'M DOIN', SOI INTEND TO DO THAT UNTIL HE
  • 00:07:09.684 --> 00:07:11.586
  • I INTEND TO DO THAT UNTIL HETELLS ME TO DO SOMETHING ELSE."
  • 00:07:11.586 --> 00:07:14.689
  • TELLS ME TO DO SOMETHING ELSE."AND SO THAT WENT ON, AND THE
  • 00:07:14.689 --> 00:07:18.126
  • AND SO THAT WENT ON, AND THEWORD GOT OUT, AND IT WAS ON
  • 00:07:18.126 --> 00:07:19.895
  • WORD GOT OUT, AND IT WAS ONTELEVISION.
  • 00:07:19.895 --> 00:07:21.062
  • TELEVISION.FOLKS-- WE HAD PEOPLE CALLING US
  • 00:07:21.062 --> 00:07:22.297
  • FOLKS-- WE HAD PEOPLE CALLING USFROM LONDON, AND THIS, THAT, AND
  • 00:07:22.297 --> 00:07:23.532
  • FROM LONDON, AND THIS, THAT, ANDTHE OTHER-- AND SAID, "WE'RE
  • 00:07:23.532 --> 00:07:24.432
  • THE OTHER-- AND SAID, "WE'REJUST GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT GOD
  • 00:07:24.432 --> 00:07:25.634
  • JUST GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT GODSAID, DO."
  • 00:07:25.634 --> 00:07:27.435
  • SAID, DO."AND THEN I GOT A LOT OF
  • 00:07:27.435 --> 00:07:28.403
  • AND THEN I GOT A LOT OFENCOURAGEMENT FROM PEOPLE WHO
  • 00:07:28.403 --> 00:07:30.639
  • ENCOURAGEMENT FROM PEOPLE WHOSAID, "WELL, YOU DON'T-- THAT
  • 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.707
  • SAID, "WELL, YOU DON'T-- THATWASN'T YOUR DECISION.
  • 00:07:32.707 --> 00:07:33.341
  • WASN'T YOUR DECISION.YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:07:33.341 --> 00:07:33.775
  • YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'REDOING."
  • 00:07:33.775 --> 00:07:36.645
  • DOING."SO, FINALLY, IT WAS ALL OVER,
  • 00:07:36.645 --> 00:07:38.880
  • SO, FINALLY, IT WAS ALL OVER,AND I LOOK BACK AND SEE
  • 00:07:38.880 --> 00:07:39.814
  • AND I LOOK BACK AND SEEHOW GOD PROTECTED ME THROUGH
  • 00:07:39.814 --> 00:07:41.516
  • HOW GOD PROTECTED ME THROUGHTHAT, AND I HAD NO ANIMOSITY.
  • 00:07:41.516 --> 00:07:45.186
  • THAT, AND I HAD NO ANIMOSITY.IT WASN'T MY IDEA.
  • 00:07:45.186 --> 00:07:48.890
  • IT WASN'T MY IDEA.AND SO SHE DIVORCED ME, AND I
  • 00:07:48.890 --> 00:07:52.460
  • AND SO SHE DIVORCED ME, AND IREMEMBER A CRITICAL MOMENT IN
  • 00:07:52.460 --> 00:07:55.096
  • REMEMBER A CRITICAL MOMENT INTHAT, WHEN WE WERE STANDING IN
  • 00:07:55.096 --> 00:07:55.931
  • THAT, WHEN WE WERE STANDING INTHE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY
  • 00:07:55.931 --> 00:07:58.233
  • THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEYWERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THEY
  • 00:07:58.233 --> 00:08:01.169
  • WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THEYWANTED, AND THIS, THAT, AND THE
  • 00:08:01.169 --> 00:08:02.470
  • WANTED, AND THIS, THAT, AND THEOTHER, AND SO, FINALLY, THE LORD
  • 00:08:02.470 --> 00:08:04.139
  • OTHER, AND SO, FINALLY, THE LORDREMINDED ME OF A STATEMENT I HAD
  • 00:08:04.139 --> 00:08:05.874
  • REMINDED ME OF A STATEMENT I HADHEARD BEFORE AND READ, AND I
  • 00:08:05.874 --> 00:08:09.177
  • HEARD BEFORE AND READ, AND ISAID, "YES, LORD."
  • 00:08:09.177 --> 00:08:10.412
  • SAID, "YES, LORD."SO I SAID,
  • 00:08:10.412 --> 00:08:13.014
  • SO I SAID,"HERE'S THE DEAL, SO TAKE IT OR
  • 00:08:13.014 --> 00:08:16.451
  • "HERE'S THE DEAL, SO TAKE IT ORLEAVE IT," SO MY ATTORNEY DID,
  • 00:08:16.451 --> 00:08:20.956
  • LEAVE IT," SO MY ATTORNEY DID,AND SO, IN FIVE MINUTES, THEY
  • 00:08:20.956 --> 00:08:22.657
  • AND SO, IN FIVE MINUTES, THEYSAID, "OKAY."
  • 00:08:22.657 --> 00:08:23.258
  • SAID, "OKAY."AND SO I NEVER FELT LIKE
  • 00:08:23.258 --> 00:08:25.694
  • AND SO I NEVER FELT LIKEI REALLY DIVORCED HER.
  • 00:08:25.694 --> 00:08:28.096
  • I REALLY DIVORCED HER.SHE ASKED FOR IT.
  • 00:08:28.096 --> 00:08:30.031
  • SHE ASKED FOR IT.I RESPONDED TO IT.
  • 00:08:30.031 --> 00:08:31.333
  • I RESPONDED TO IT.WHAT ELSE COULD I DO?
  • 00:08:31.333 --> 00:08:33.201
  • WHAT ELSE COULD I DO?AND I FELT LIKE I HAD OBEYED GOD
  • 00:08:33.201 --> 00:08:36.271
  • AND I FELT LIKE I HAD OBEYED GODBY RESPONDING, AND I KNEW THAT
  • 00:08:36.271 --> 00:08:38.640
  • YOU'VE WEATHERED A STORM THAT,
  • 00:08:51.620 --> 00:08:52.287
  • YOU'VE WEATHERED A STORM THAT,MOST OF THE TIME, SINKS THE
  • 00:08:52.287 --> 00:08:55.323
  • MOST OF THE TIME, SINKS THESHIP.
  • 00:08:55.323 --> 00:08:57.792
  • SHIP.I LOOK AROUND HERE, AND THE
  • 00:08:57.792 --> 00:09:00.562
  • AT 85, YOU'VE NEVER HAD, YOU
  • 00:09:03.398 --> 00:09:04.432
  • AT 85, YOU'VE NEVER HAD, YOUKNOW, THE RESPONSE TO YOUR
  • 00:09:04.432 --> 00:09:05.166
  • KNOW, THE RESPONSE TO YOURBROADCAST, THESE BUILDINGS, THE
  • 00:09:05.166 --> 00:09:07.235
  • YOU JUST KEPT DOING WHAT GOD
  • 00:09:08.903 --> 00:09:09.938
  • YOU JUST KEPT DOING WHAT GODTOLD YOU TO DO.
  • 00:09:09.938 --> 00:09:11.740
  • TOLD YOU TO DO.IS THAT ADVICE FOR DIVORCED
  • 00:09:11.740 --> 00:09:14.542
  • IS THAT ADVICE FOR DIVORCEDFOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING THIS?
  • 00:09:14.542 --> 00:09:15.443
  • FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING THIS?- CHARLES: IF YOU ARE RIGHT
  • 00:09:15.443 --> 00:09:16.711
  • - CHARLES: IF YOU ARE RIGHTWITH GOD IN YOUR HEART AND
  • 00:09:16.711 --> 00:09:17.979
  • WITH GOD IN YOUR HEART ANDYOU'RE DOING WHAT GOD CALLED YOU
  • 00:09:17.979 --> 00:09:19.681
  • YOU'RE DOING WHAT GOD CALLED YOUTO DO, THEN YOU KEEP DOING WHAT
  • 00:09:19.681 --> 00:09:21.383
  • TO DO, THEN YOU KEEP DOING WHATHE CALLED YOU TO DO UNTIL HE
  • 00:09:21.383 --> 00:09:24.886
  • HE CALLED YOU TO DO UNTIL HETELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING ELSE,
  • 00:09:24.886 --> 00:09:26.121
  • TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING ELSE,AND THAT WAS MY CONVICTION:
  • 00:09:26.121 --> 00:09:26.855
  • AND THAT WAS MY CONVICTION:"LORD, I'M GONNA KEEP DOING WHAT
  • 00:09:26.855 --> 00:09:27.756
  • "LORD, I'M GONNA KEEP DOING WHATYOU SAID, DO.
  • 00:09:27.756 --> 00:09:29.257
  • YOU SAID, DO.IF YOU WANT ME TO DO SOMETHING
  • 00:09:29.257 --> 00:09:30.692
  • IF YOU WANT ME TO DO SOMETHINGELSE, TELL ME, BUT UNTIL THEN,
  • 00:09:30.692 --> 00:09:32.861
  • ELSE, TELL ME, BUT UNTIL THEN,THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA DO."
  • 00:09:32.861 --> 00:09:34.029
  • THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA DO."NOW, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY IN THE
  • 00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:35.864
  • NOW, OF COURSE, EVERYBODY IN THECHURCH WASN'T HAPPY ABOUT ALL
  • 00:09:35.864 --> 00:09:37.132
  • CHURCH WASN'T HAPPY ABOUT ALLTHAT, SO I SAID, "WELL, I'M NOT
  • 00:09:37.132 --> 00:09:38.066
  • THAT, SO I SAID, "WELL, I'M NOTGOING ANYWHERE.
  • 00:09:38.066 --> 00:09:40.035
  • GOING ANYWHERE.IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, THEN I
  • 00:09:40.035 --> 00:09:42.070
  • IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, THEN IFULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR
  • 00:09:42.070 --> 00:09:43.838
  • FULLY UNDERSTAND YOURCONVICTION, BUT I'M GONNA KEEP
  • 00:09:43.838 --> 00:09:44.773
  • CONVICTION, BUT I'M GONNA KEEPDOING WHAT GOD CALLED ME TO DO,
  • 00:09:44.773 --> 00:09:46.574
  • DOING WHAT GOD CALLED ME TO DO,AND HE HADN'T TOLD ME TO LEAVE."
  • 00:09:46.574 --> 00:09:49.678
  • AND HE HADN'T TOLD ME TO LEAVE."- MATT: IF XYZ-HIGH PROFILE
  • 00:09:49.678 --> 00:09:51.713
  • - MATT: IF XYZ-HIGH PROFILECONTEMPORARY OF YOURS WROTE YOU
  • 00:09:51.713 --> 00:09:53.415
  • CONTEMPORARY OF YOURS WROTE YOUA LETTER AND SAID, "YOU NEED TO
  • 00:09:53.415 --> 00:09:54.449
  • A LETTER AND SAID, "YOU NEED TORESIGN," WHAT WOULD'VE YOUR
  • 00:09:54.449 --> 00:09:55.417
  • RESIGN," WHAT WOULD'VE YOURRESPONSE HAVE BEEN TO THAT?
  • 00:09:55.417 --> 00:09:58.086
  • RESPONSE HAVE BEEN TO THAT?[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:58.086 --> 00:09:58.820
  • [LAUGHTER]- CHARLES: WELL, I HAVE SOME OF
  • 00:09:58.820 --> 00:10:00.121
  • - CHARLES: WELL, I HAVE SOME OFTHOSE AND--
  • 00:10:00.121 --> 00:10:00.955
  • THOSE AND--[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:00.955 --> 00:10:01.656
  • [LAUGHTER]- MATT: CAN I SEE 'EM LATER?
  • 00:10:01.656 --> 00:10:02.123
  • - MATT: CAN I SEE 'EM LATER?NO, I'M KIDDING.
  • 00:10:02.123 --> 00:10:03.625
  • NO, I'M KIDDING.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:10:03.625 --> 00:10:04.359
  • [LAUGHTER]- CHARLES: I SAID, "WELL, THANK
  • 00:10:04.359 --> 00:10:04.826
  • - CHARLES: I SAID, "WELL, THANKYOU VERY MUCH.
  • 00:10:04.826 --> 00:10:06.761
  • YOU VERY MUCH.I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONVICTION,
  • 00:10:06.761 --> 00:10:07.896
  • I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONVICTION,AND PROBABLY YEARS AGO, I
  • 00:10:07.896 --> 00:10:08.596
  • AND PROBABLY YEARS AGO, IPROBABLY WOULD'VE AGREED WITH
  • 00:10:08.596 --> 00:10:10.999
  • PROBABLY WOULD'VE AGREED WITHYA, BUT I'M DOING WHAT GOD'S
  • 00:10:10.999 --> 00:10:13.201
  • YA, BUT I'M DOING WHAT GOD'SCALLED ME TO DO TODAY, AND
  • 00:10:13.201 --> 00:10:15.103
  • CALLED ME TO DO TODAY, ANDTHAT'S ALL I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.
  • 00:10:15.103 --> 00:10:16.004
  • THAT'S ALL I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I
  • 00:10:16.004 --> 00:10:16.671
  • THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND IAPPRECIATE YOUR PRAYERS."
  • 00:10:16.671 --> 00:10:17.872
  • APPRECIATE YOUR PRAYERS."APPRECIATE YOUR PRAYERS."
  • 00:10:17.872 --> 00:10:18.473
  • - MATT: OKAY, WE WERE TALKING
  • 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:53.828
  • - MATT: OKAY, WE WERE TALKINGBACK IN ANOTHER ROOM BEFORE THIS
  • 00:12:53.828 --> 00:12:57.565
  • BACK IN ANOTHER ROOM BEFORE THISTAPING BEGAN, AND YOU WERE BORN
  • 00:12:57.565 --> 00:13:03.037
  • TAPING BEGAN, AND YOU WERE BORNIN 1932, OKAY?
  • 00:13:03.037 --> 00:13:08.209
  • IN 1932, OKAY?SO YOUR PARENTS-- WAS THE
  • 00:13:08.209 --> 00:13:08.977
  • SO YOUR PARENTS-- WAS THEDEPRESSION GOING ON AT THAT
  • 00:13:08.977 --> 00:13:11.446
  • DEPRESSION GOING ON AT THATTIME?
  • 00:13:11.446 --> 00:13:12.213
  • TIME?- CHARLES: YES, IT WAS, AND MY
  • 00:13:12.213 --> 00:13:13.448
  • - CHARLES: YES, IT WAS, AND MYFATHER DIED WHEN I WAS NINE
  • 00:13:13.448 --> 00:13:16.751
  • FATHER DIED WHEN I WAS NINEMONTHS OF AGE, SO IT'S JUST MY
  • 00:13:16.751 --> 00:13:19.254
  • MONTHS OF AGE, SO IT'S JUST MYMOTHER AND I.
  • 00:13:19.254 --> 00:13:20.622
  • MOTHER AND I.- MATT: OKAY, SO YOU WERE BEING
  • 00:13:20.622 --> 00:13:21.756
  • - MATT: OKAY, SO YOU WERE BEINGRAISED IN A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.
  • 00:13:21.756 --> 00:13:23.992
  • RAISED IN A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO BE AWARE,
  • 00:13:23.992 --> 00:13:27.896
  • BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO BE AWARE,AND IN A YOUNG PERSON, WORLD
  • 00:13:27.896 --> 00:13:31.833
  • AND IN A YOUNG PERSON, WORLDWAR II WAS THEN HAPPENING.
  • 00:13:31.833 --> 00:13:33.768
  • WAR II WAS THEN HAPPENING.SO BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THE
  • 00:13:33.768 --> 00:13:34.502
  • SO BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THE50s, IT FELT LIKE AMERICA TOOK A
  • 00:13:34.502 --> 00:13:36.004
  • 50s, IT FELT LIKE AMERICA TOOK ACOLLECTIVE DEEP BREATH.
  • 00:13:36.004 --> 00:13:38.039
  • COLLECTIVE DEEP BREATH.THERE WAS GREAT EXPANSION.
  • 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:41.676
  • THERE WAS GREAT EXPANSION.YOU WERE NOW A TEENAGER IN THE
  • 00:13:41.676 --> 00:13:42.911
  • YOU WERE NOW A TEENAGER IN THE'50s, WHICH, I GUESS, IN SOME
  • 00:13:42.911 --> 00:13:47.215
  • '50s, WHICH, I GUESS, IN SOMEPEOPLE'S ESTIMATION, WAS THE
  • 00:13:47.215 --> 00:13:50.218
  • PEOPLE'S ESTIMATION, WAS THEGREATEST TIME TO BE A TEENAGER
  • 00:13:50.218 --> 00:13:52.553
  • GREATEST TIME TO BE A TEENAGERAND WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE
  • 00:13:52.553 --> 00:13:54.155
  • AND WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE'50s AND SO MUCH GROWTH, AND
  • 00:13:54.155 --> 00:13:56.391
  • '50s AND SO MUCH GROWTH, ANDAMERICA, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY-- SO
  • 00:13:56.391 --> 00:14:01.629
  • AMERICA, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY-- SOFROM THAT TIME WHEN YOU WERE A
  • 00:14:01.629 --> 00:14:04.732
  • FROM THAT TIME WHEN YOU WERE AYOUNG PERSON AND LIVING LIFE IN
  • 00:14:04.732 --> 00:14:06.367
  • YOUNG PERSON AND LIVING LIFE INAMERICA, WHERE WERE YOU AT THAT
  • 00:14:06.367 --> 00:14:08.770
  • AMERICA, WHERE WERE YOU AT THATTIME OF YOUR LIFE?
  • 00:14:08.770 --> 00:14:09.437
  • TIME OF YOUR LIFE?WHAT-- GEOGRAPHICALLY, WHERE
  • 00:14:09.437 --> 00:14:10.571
  • WHAT-- GEOGRAPHICALLY, WHEREWERE YOU?
  • 00:14:10.571 --> 00:14:11.406
  • WERE YOU?- CHARLES: IN THE '50s, I WAS
  • 00:14:11.406 --> 00:14:15.576
  • - CHARLES: IN THE '50s, I WASSTILL IN COLLEGE, IN SEMINARY.
  • 00:14:15.576 --> 00:14:16.511
  • STILL IN COLLEGE, IN SEMINARY.- MATT: OKAY, WHAT STATE?
  • 00:14:16.511 --> 00:14:17.779
  • - MATT: OKAY, WHAT STATE?WHERE WERE YOU?
  • 00:14:17.779 --> 00:14:18.680
  • WHERE WERE YOU?- CHARLES: I WENT TO SCHOOL IN
  • 00:14:18.680 --> 00:14:19.847
  • - CHARLES: I WENT TO SCHOOL INRICHMOND, UNIVERSITY OF
  • 00:14:19.847 --> 00:14:21.549
  • RICHMOND, UNIVERSITY OFRICHMOND, AND THEN DALLAS-FORT
  • 00:14:21.549 --> 00:14:23.551
  • RICHMOND, AND THEN DALLAS-FORTWORTH, AT THE BAPTIST SEMINARY
  • 00:14:23.551 --> 00:14:25.420
  • WORTH, AT THE BAPTIST SEMINARYTHERE.
  • 00:14:25.420 --> 00:14:25.954
  • THERE.- MATT: GOT IT.
  • 00:14:25.954 --> 00:14:28.423
  • - MATT: GOT IT.SO YOU WERE GROWING UP IN THAT
  • 00:14:28.423 --> 00:14:31.059
  • SO YOU WERE GROWING UP IN THATPERIOD OF TIME.
  • 00:14:31.059 --> 00:14:35.296
  • PERIOD OF TIME.COMPARE THAT TIME TO TODAY, AND
  • 00:14:35.296 --> 00:14:39.067
  • COMPARE THAT TIME TO TODAY, ANDIT ALMOST FEELS LIKE IT'S A-- IF
  • 00:14:39.067 --> 00:14:40.935
  • IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE IT'S A-- IFIT'S A--
  • 00:14:40.935 --> 00:14:41.936
  • IT'S A--- LAURIE: DIFFERENT WORLD.
  • 00:14:41.936 --> 00:14:42.904
  • - LAURIE: DIFFERENT WORLD.- MATT: -- IT'S A DIFFERENT
  • 00:14:42.904 --> 00:14:43.838
  • - MATT: -- IT'S A DIFFERENTPLANET, NOT EVEN A DIFFERENT
  • 00:14:43.838 --> 00:14:45.206
  • PLANET, NOT EVEN A DIFFERENTTIME, BUT DIFFERENT PLANET.
  • 00:14:45.206 --> 00:14:47.342
  • - CHARLES: I THINK THE SECOND
  • 00:14:48.643 --> 00:14:50.411
  • - CHARLES: I THINK THE SECONDWORLD WAR AFFECTED ME AS A KID
  • 00:14:50.411 --> 00:14:53.915
  • WORLD WAR AFFECTED ME AS A KIDWITH THE IDEA OF THE COURAGE AND
  • 00:14:53.915 --> 00:14:56.284
  • WITH THE IDEA OF THE COURAGE ANDTHE BRAVERY AND THE
  • 00:14:56.284 --> 00:14:58.553
  • THE BRAVERY AND THEDETERMINATION AND WILLING TO DIE
  • 00:14:58.553 --> 00:14:59.253
  • DETERMINATION AND WILLING TO DIEFOR YOUR COUNTRY.
  • 00:14:59.253 --> 00:15:01.155
  • FOR YOUR COUNTRY.IT WAS THIS AWESOME SENSE OF
  • 00:15:01.155 --> 00:15:03.024
  • IT WAS THIS AWESOME SENSE OFINNER PRIDE, AND I THINK PART OF
  • 00:15:03.024 --> 00:15:07.328
  • INNER PRIDE, AND I THINK PART OFTHAT WAS A MOTIVATION TO ME TO
  • 00:15:07.328 --> 00:15:09.731
  • THAT WAS A MOTIVATION TO ME TOWANNA DO MY BEST AND BE MY BEST
  • 00:15:09.731 --> 00:15:12.934
  • WANNA DO MY BEST AND BE MY BESTAND LOOK MY BEST, AND SO THEY
  • 00:15:12.934 --> 00:15:13.935
  • AND LOOK MY BEST, AND SO THEYWERE GOOD YEARS, AND I DELIVERED
  • 00:15:13.935 --> 00:15:14.902
  • WERE GOOD YEARS, AND I DELIVEREDWERE GOOD YEARS, AND I DELIVERED
  • 00:15:14.902 --> 00:15:15.536
  • WERE GOOD YEARS, AND I DELIVERED- MATT: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
  • 00:15:15.536 --> 00:15:18.172
  • - MATT: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUTWHAT YOU MIGHT'VE PREACHED AS A
  • 00:15:18.172 --> 00:15:20.108
  • WHAT YOU MIGHT'VE PREACHED AS AYOUNG PREACHER, WHEN WAS YOUR
  • 00:15:20.108 --> 00:15:22.377
  • YOUNG PREACHER, WHEN WAS YOURFIRST-- WHEN DID YOU PREACH YOUR
  • 00:15:22.377 --> 00:15:23.011
  • FIRST-- WHEN DID YOU PREACH YOURFIRST SERMON?
  • 00:15:23.011 --> 00:15:24.078
  • FIRST SERMON?WHAT, ROUGHLY, YEAR WAS THAT?
  • 00:15:24.078 --> 00:15:26.748
  • WHAT, ROUGHLY, YEAR WAS THAT?WAS THAT IN THE '60s?
  • 00:15:26.748 --> 00:15:28.483
  • WAS THAT IN THE '60s?- CHARLES: NO, THAT WAS-- MY
  • 00:15:28.483 --> 00:15:31.619
  • - CHARLES: NO, THAT WAS-- MYFIRST SERMON WAS IN THE '50S,
  • 00:15:31.619 --> 00:15:32.420
  • FIRST SERMON WAS IN THE '50S,EARLY '50s.
  • 00:15:32.420 --> 00:15:33.488
  • EARLY '50s.- MATT: SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
  • 00:15:33.488 --> 00:15:35.623
  • - MATT: SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUTWHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN
  • 00:15:35.623 --> 00:15:37.225
  • WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEENPREACHING ABOUT THEN AND WHAT
  • 00:15:37.225 --> 00:15:40.094
  • PREACHING ABOUT THEN AND WHATYOU MIGHT PREACH THIS NEXT
  • 00:15:40.094 --> 00:15:41.396
  • YOU MIGHT PREACH THIS NEXTSUNDAY, ARE THEY TOTALLY
  • 00:15:41.396 --> 00:15:42.663
  • SUNDAY, ARE THEY TOTALLYDIFFERENT, OR ARE THEY ODDLY
  • 00:15:42.663 --> 00:15:44.132
  • DIFFERENT, OR ARE THEY ODDLYSIMILAR?
  • 00:15:44.132 --> 00:15:45.800
  • SIMILAR?- CHARLES: WELL, I WOULD SAY
  • 00:15:45.800 --> 00:15:48.036
  • - CHARLES: WELL, I WOULD SAYMORE DIFFERENT THAN I HAD
  • 00:15:48.036 --> 00:15:49.971
  • MORE DIFFERENT THAN I HADTHOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE, BACK IN
  • 00:15:49.971 --> 00:15:51.372
  • THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE, BACK INTHOSE DAYS, IT WAS WINNING
  • 00:15:51.372 --> 00:15:52.607
  • THOSE DAYS, IT WAS WINNINGPEOPLE TO CHRIST AND GETTIN'
  • 00:15:52.607 --> 00:15:54.609
  • PEOPLE TO CHRIST AND GETTIN'PEOPLE SAVED, AND I THINK AS THE
  • 00:15:54.609 --> 00:15:56.044
  • PEOPLE SAVED, AND I THINK AS THEYEARS HAVE GONE BY, I'M MORE
  • 00:15:56.044 --> 00:15:57.712
  • YEARS HAVE GONE BY, I'M MOREINTO "I WANNA GROW YOU UP, AND I
  • 00:15:57.712 --> 00:15:59.313
  • INTO "I WANNA GROW YOU UP, AND IWANT YOU TO TRUST GOD, AND I
  • 00:15:59.313 --> 00:16:01.382
  • WANT YOU TO TRUST GOD, AND IWANT YOU TO BE WHAT HE WANTS YOU
  • 00:16:01.382 --> 00:16:02.583
  • WANT YOU TO BE WHAT HE WANTS YOUTO BE, AND DON'T GET
  • 00:16:02.583 --> 00:16:04.352
  • TO BE, AND DON'T GETDISCOURAGED," AND, YOU KNOW, SO,
  • 00:16:04.352 --> 00:16:05.319
  • DISCOURAGED," AND, YOU KNOW, SO,FOR ME, THE WORLD'S CHANGED MY
  • 00:16:05.319 --> 00:16:07.255
  • FOR ME, THE WORLD'S CHANGED MYWHOLE MESSAGE.
  • 00:16:07.255 --> 00:16:10.458
  • WHOLE MESSAGE.- MATT: WHEN DID YOU FEEL THAT
  • 00:16:10.458 --> 00:16:14.028
  • - MATT: WHEN DID YOU FEEL THATCHANGE TO YOUR CURRENT MESSAGE?
  • 00:16:14.028 --> 00:16:18.266
  • CHANGE TO YOUR CURRENT MESSAGE?- CHARLES: I WOULD SAY WHEN I
  • 00:16:18.266 --> 00:16:19.000
  • - CHARLES: I WOULD SAY WHEN ICAME TO ATLANTA, AND ALL THE
  • 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.870
  • CAME TO ATLANTA, AND ALL THEBATTLES I WENT THROUGH.
  • 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:25.073
  • BATTLES I WENT THROUGH.THAT WAS GOD-- IN OTHER WORDS, I
  • 00:16:25.073 --> 00:16:30.344
  • THAT WAS GOD-- IN OTHER WORDS, IWAS HAVIN' TO TRUST AND LIVE OUT
  • 00:16:30.344 --> 00:16:31.079
  • WAS HAVIN' TO TRUST AND LIVE OUTWHAT I'VE BEEN PREACHING, AND,
  • 00:16:31.079 --> 00:16:34.482
  • WHAT I'VE BEEN PREACHING, AND,OF COURSE, DIFFERENT SITUATIONS
  • 00:16:34.482 --> 00:16:35.716
  • OF COURSE, DIFFERENT SITUATIONSAND CIRCUMSTANCES HELP YOU TO
  • 00:16:35.716 --> 00:16:38.986
  • AND CIRCUMSTANCES HELP YOU TOGROW UP, AND I WOULD SAY, FOR
  • 00:16:38.986 --> 00:16:41.322
  • GROW UP, AND I WOULD SAY, FORTHE LAST 30 YEARS,
  • 00:16:41.322 --> 00:16:43.391
  • THE LAST 30 YEARS,THAT'S WHERE I'VE BEEN.
  • 00:16:43.391 --> 00:16:45.193
  • THAT'S WHERE I'VE BEEN.I WANNA GROW PEOPLE UP BECAUSE I
  • 00:16:45.193 --> 00:16:47.261
  • I WANNA GROW PEOPLE UP BECAUSE ISAW SO MANY PEOPLE GET SAVED,
  • 00:16:47.261 --> 00:16:48.796
  • SAW SO MANY PEOPLE GET SAVED,SUPPOSEDLY, AND DRIFT AWAY, AND
  • 00:16:48.796 --> 00:16:50.098
  • SUPPOSEDLY, AND DRIFT AWAY, ANDI THINK, "WAIT A MINUTE.
  • 00:16:50.098 --> 00:16:52.900
  • I THINK, "WAIT A MINUTE.THIS IS NOT GOD'S PLAN," SO 99%
  • 00:16:52.900 --> 00:16:56.003
  • THIS IS NOT GOD'S PLAN," SO 99%OF THE TIME, I'M SPEAKIN' TO
  • 00:16:56.003 --> 00:16:58.806
  • OF THE TIME, I'M SPEAKIN' TOCHRISTIANS, BUT I'M ALSO
  • 00:16:58.806 --> 00:17:01.309
  • CHRISTIANS, BUT I'M ALSOSPEAKING TO UNBELIEVERS BECAUSE
  • 00:17:01.309 --> 00:17:03.411
  • SPEAKING TO UNBELIEVERS BECAUSEI WANT THEM TO SEE WHAT IT CAN
  • 00:17:03.411 --> 00:17:05.113
  • BUT MY EMPHASIS IS TO GROW UP
  • 00:17:07.081 --> 00:17:07.949
  • BUT MY EMPHASIS IS TO GROW UPTHE BELIEVERS.
  • 00:17:07.949 --> 00:17:11.252
  • SEE GOING ON.
  • 00:17:11.252 --> 00:17:12.487
  • SEE GOING ON.- MATT: BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:17:12.487 --> 00:17:13.521
  • - MATT: BEAUTIFUL."LEGACY" IS A WORD THAT SOMETIME
  • 00:17:13.521 --> 00:17:14.455
  • "LEGACY" IS A WORD THAT SOMETIMEGETS THROWN AROUND WHEN YOU'RE
  • 00:17:14.455 --> 00:17:16.390
  • GETS THROWN AROUND WHEN YOU'RELOOKING AT AS MUCH, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:17:16.390 --> 00:17:18.192
  • LOOKING AT AS MUCH, YOU KNOW,BEAUTIFUL GRAY HAIR AS YOU HAVE.
  • 00:17:18.192 --> 00:17:18.926
  • BEAUTIFUL GRAY HAIR AS YOU HAVE.I HOPE I HAVE THAT MUCH WHEN I'M
  • 00:17:18.926 --> 00:17:20.161
  • I HOPE I HAVE THAT MUCH WHEN I'MYOUR AGE.
  • 00:17:20.161 --> 00:17:21.262
  • YOUR AGE.- CHARLES: YOU'VE GOT-- YOU'RE
  • 00:17:21.262 --> 00:17:22.130
  • - CHARLES: YOU'VE GOT-- YOU'REDOIN' PRETTY WELL.
  • 00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:23.397
  • DOIN' PRETTY WELL.- MATT: MY DADDY HAD A LOT OF
  • 00:17:23.397 --> 00:17:24.999
  • - MATT: MY DADDY HAD A LOT OFHAIR WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, SO I'M
  • 00:17:24.999 --> 00:17:28.236
  • HAIR WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, SO I'MJUST KIND OF HOLDING ONTO THAT.
  • 00:17:28.236 --> 00:17:31.706
  • JUST KIND OF HOLDING ONTO THAT.ANYWAY, SO LEGACY IS A WORD THAT
  • 00:17:31.706 --> 00:17:32.974
  • ANYWAY, SO LEGACY IS A WORD THATSHOULD COME UP WITH SOMEONE OF
  • 00:17:32.974 --> 00:17:37.645
  • SHOULD COME UP WITH SOMEONE OFYOUR AGE.
  • 00:17:37.645 --> 00:17:40.948
  • YOUR AGE.TALK TO US ABOUT LEGACY,
  • 00:17:40.948 --> 00:17:42.383
  • TALK TO US ABOUT LEGACY,MEANING, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT
  • 00:17:42.383 --> 00:17:44.552
  • MEANING, WHAT DO YOU THINK ITIS, AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY
  • 00:17:44.552 --> 00:17:46.521
  • IS, AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAYTO OUR GENERATION AND BEYOND?
  • 00:17:46.521 --> 00:17:48.823
  • TO OUR GENERATION AND BEYOND?- CHARLES: WELL, I THINK YOUR
  • 00:17:48.823 --> 00:17:50.825
  • - CHARLES: WELL, I THINK YOURLEGACY IS THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:17:50.825 --> 00:17:53.528
  • LEGACY IS THE LIFE THAT YOU'VELIVED.
  • 00:17:53.528 --> 00:17:56.063
  • LIVED.IT CAN'T BE ONE PART OF IT, BUT
  • 00:17:56.063 --> 00:17:57.632
  • IT CAN'T BE ONE PART OF IT, BUTTHE LIFE THAT YOU'VE LIVED, AND,
  • 00:17:57.632 --> 00:18:00.968
  • THE LIFE THAT YOU'VE LIVED, AND,SECONDLY, WHAT DO YOU LEAVE
  • 00:18:00.968 --> 00:18:03.437
  • SECONDLY, WHAT DO YOU LEAVEBEHIND THAT'S WORTH SOMEBODY
  • 00:18:03.437 --> 00:18:05.173
  • BEHIND THAT'S WORTH SOMEBODYPICKIN' UP AND CARRYING ON?
  • 00:18:05.173 --> 00:18:08.075
  • PICKIN' UP AND CARRYING ON?WHAT DID YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU
  • 00:18:08.075 --> 00:18:10.244
  • WHAT DID YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUWANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BELIEVE?
  • 00:18:10.244 --> 00:18:12.146
  • WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BELIEVE?AND WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED?
  • 00:18:12.146 --> 00:18:13.915
  • AND WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED?HOW DID YOU ACCOMPLISH IT?
  • 00:18:13.915 --> 00:18:16.951
  • HOW DID YOU ACCOMPLISH IT?WAS IT BY TRUSTING GOD AND
  • 00:18:16.951 --> 00:18:17.518
  • WAS IT BY TRUSTING GOD ANDBEING OBEDIENT TO HIM?
  • 00:18:17.518 --> 00:18:23.958
  • BEING OBEDIENT TO HIM?WERE YOU CONSISTENT IN YOUR
  • 00:18:23.958 --> 00:18:24.625
  • WERE YOU CONSISTENT IN YOURLIFE?
  • 00:18:24.625 --> 00:18:25.359
  • LIFE?I THINK THE WHOLE LEGACY IS NOT
  • 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.028
  • I THINK THE WHOLE LEGACY IS NOTSOMETHING THAT YOU BUILD, PUT A
  • 00:18:27.028 --> 00:18:28.229
  • SOMETHING THAT YOU BUILD, PUT ANAME ON.
  • 00:18:28.229 --> 00:18:30.765
  • NAME ON.IT'S SOMETHING YOU LIVED, AND
  • 00:18:30.765 --> 00:18:34.035
  • IT'S SOMETHING YOU LIVED, ANDWHATEVER YOU WANNA LEAVE IN A
  • 00:18:34.035 --> 00:18:35.670
  • WHATEVER YOU WANNA LEAVE IN ALEGACY, YOU WANT IT TO BE LEFT
  • 00:18:35.670 --> 00:18:38.472
  • LEGACY, YOU WANT IT TO BE LEFTIN PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND IN THEIR
  • 00:18:38.472 --> 00:18:39.774
  • IN PEOPLE'S HEARTS AND IN THEIRMINDS, NOT WITH STONE.
  • 00:18:39.774 --> 00:18:40.775
  • MINDS, NOT WITH STONE.- LAURIE: WELL, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:18:40.775 --> 00:18:42.043
  • - LAURIE: WELL, YOU KNOW,YOU'VE JUST DONE THAT WITH YOUR
  • 00:18:42.043 --> 00:18:43.744
  • YOU'VE JUST DONE THAT WITH YOURGRANDFATHER.
  • 00:18:43.744 --> 00:18:46.414
  • GRANDFATHER.I MEAN, WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID
  • 00:18:46.414 --> 00:18:47.081
  • I MEAN, WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAIDABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE
  • 00:18:47.081 --> 00:18:47.815
  • ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERERUNNIN' INTO A WALL, GOD'LL MAKE
  • 00:18:47.815 --> 00:18:48.249
  • RUNNIN' INTO A WALL, GOD'LL MAKEA HOLE FOR YA.
  • 00:18:48.249 --> 00:18:51.052
  • A HOLE FOR YA.I MEAN, THAT'LL NEVER LEAVE ME,
  • 00:18:51.052 --> 00:18:51.752
  • I MEAN, THAT'LL NEVER LEAVE ME,AND MY KIDS ARE SITTIN' RIGHT
  • 00:18:51.752 --> 00:18:52.053
  • AND MY KIDS ARE SITTIN' RIGHTHERE.
  • 00:18:52.053 --> 00:18:53.821
  • I PRAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU OBEY
  • 00:18:55.556 --> 00:18:56.457
  • I PRAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU OBEYGOD AND LEAVE THE CONSEQUENCES
  • 00:18:56.457 --> 00:18:59.060
  • YOU KNOW, I WANT MY CHILDREN TO
  • 00:19:00.361 --> 00:19:01.062
  • YOU KNOW, I WANT MY CHILDREN TOGRASP ONTO THAT AND TAKE IT ON
  • 00:19:01.062 --> 00:19:02.597
  • GRASP ONTO THAT AND TAKE IT ONINTO THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR
  • 00:19:02.597 --> 00:19:06.400
  • INTO THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIRCHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
  • 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:07.301
  • CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.BUT I THINK THAT'S-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:19:07.301 --> 00:19:08.836
  • BUT I THINK THAT'S-- YOU KNOW,AND I THINK FINISHING WELL IS SO
  • 00:19:08.836 --> 00:19:12.039
  • AND I THINK FINISHING WELL IS SOIMPORTANT, AND I THINK-- WELL, I
  • 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.909
  • IMPORTANT, AND I THINK-- WELL, IKNOW THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN
  • 00:19:14.909 --> 00:19:19.113
  • KNOW THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE INRETIRING.
  • 00:19:19.113 --> 00:19:19.981
  • RETIRING.- CHARLES: WELL, THE BIBLE
  • 00:19:19.981 --> 00:19:21.349
  • - CHARLES: WELL, THE BIBLEDOESN'T TEACH IT EXCEPT FOR THE
  • 00:19:21.349 --> 00:19:22.216
  • DOESN'T TEACH IT EXCEPT FOR THEPRIEST, AFTER 25 YEARS, SO BIBLE
  • 00:19:22.216 --> 00:19:24.418
  • PRIEST, AFTER 25 YEARS, SO BIBLEDOESN'T TEACH IT.
  • 00:19:24.418 --> 00:19:25.753
  • DOESN'T TEACH IT.I THINK YOU'LL LIVE LONGER, AND
  • 00:19:25.753 --> 00:19:27.588
  • I THINK YOU'LL LIVE LONGER, ANDTHIS IS A LITTLE SAYING I'VE
  • 00:19:27.588 --> 00:19:28.689
  • THIS IS A LITTLE SAYING I'VEPICKED UP FROM SOMEWHERE, AND
  • 00:19:28.689 --> 00:19:30.057
  • PICKED UP FROM SOMEWHERE, ANDIT'S REAL PRECIOUS TO ME.
  • 00:19:30.057 --> 00:19:34.528
  • IT'S REAL PRECIOUS TO ME.YOU'LL BE HAPPY AND SUCCESSFUL
  • 00:19:34.528 --> 00:19:37.265
  • YOU'LL BE HAPPY AND SUCCESSFULAS LONG AS YOU'RE STILL PLANNING
  • 00:19:37.265 --> 00:19:39.100
  • AS LONG AS YOU'RE STILL PLANNINGFOR TOMORROW: YOU'VE GOT
  • 00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:42.870
  • FOR TOMORROW: YOU'VE GOTSOMETHIN' GOIN' FOR TOMORROW.
  • 00:19:42.870 --> 00:19:44.805
  • SOMETHIN' GOIN' FOR TOMORROW.THIS IS WHERE I'VE GOT A MONTH'S
  • 00:19:44.805 --> 00:19:47.174
  • THIS IS WHERE I'VE GOT A MONTH'SPHOTOGRAPHY TRIP COMIN' UP IN A
  • 00:19:47.174 --> 00:19:49.977
  • PHOTOGRAPHY TRIP COMIN' UP IN ACOUPLE OF WEEKS, AND I'VE ALWAYS
  • 00:19:49.977 --> 00:19:51.345
  • COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND I'VE ALWAYSGOT SOMETHIN' PLANNED, AND I GOT
  • 00:19:51.345 --> 00:19:53.581
  • GOT SOMETHIN' PLANNED, AND I GOTANOTHER ONE PLANNED AFTER THAT.
  • 00:19:53.581 --> 00:19:54.949
  • ANOTHER ONE PLANNED AFTER THAT.I'VE FOUND SOME OTHER PLACE THAT
  • 00:19:54.949 --> 00:19:55.950
  • I'VE FOUND SOME OTHER PLACE THATI WANNA GO, SO, YOU KNOW, I'M
  • 00:19:55.950 --> 00:19:58.185
  • I WANNA GO, SO, YOU KNOW, I'MHAPPY DOING WHAT I DO.
  • 00:19:58.185 --> 00:20:00.521
  • HAPPY DOING WHAT I DO.I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
  • 00:20:00.521 --> 00:20:01.956
  • LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TO
  • 00:21:03.050 --> 00:21:06.654
  • LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TOHIM."
  • 00:21:06.654 --> 00:21:07.221
  • HIM."THAT IS YOUR LIFE IN A
  • 00:21:07.221 --> 00:21:07.755
  • THAT IS YOUR LIFE IN ANUTSHELL, KIND OF?
  • 00:21:07.755 --> 00:21:08.923
  • NUTSHELL, KIND OF?- CHARLES: YES.
  • 00:21:08.923 --> 00:21:09.790
  • - CHARLES: YES.- CHARLES: YES.
  • 00:21:09.790 --> 00:21:10.324
  • - CHARLES: YES.- MATT: OKAY, GIVE ME YOUR,
  • 00:21:10.324 --> 00:21:10.758
  • - MATT: OKAY, GIVE ME YOUR,CAMERA'S RIGHT THERE?
  • 00:21:10.758 --> 00:21:11.125
  • CAMERA'S RIGHT THERE?[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:21:11.125 --> 00:21:12.026
  • [LAUGHTER]BUT IF YOU WOULD MAYBE EVEN,
  • 00:21:12.026 --> 00:21:13.661
  • BUT IF YOU WOULD MAYBE EVEN,KIND OF, DIRECT THESE KIND OF
  • 00:21:13.661 --> 00:21:16.163
  • KIND OF, DIRECT THESE KIND OFFINAL THOUGHTS ON THAT, EVEN TO
  • 00:21:16.163 --> 00:21:18.265
  • FINAL THOUGHTS ON THAT, EVEN TOTHE VIEWING AUDIENCE THAT NEEDS
  • 00:21:18.265 --> 00:21:20.668
  • THE VIEWING AUDIENCE THAT NEEDSTO UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THAT
  • 00:21:20.668 --> 00:21:22.770
  • TO UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THATIS, AND NOW THAT WE'VE COVERED
  • 00:21:22.770 --> 00:21:25.773
  • IS, AND NOW THAT WE'VE COVEREDSOME PRETTY UNIQUELY DIFFICULT
  • 00:21:25.773 --> 00:21:29.543
  • SOME PRETTY UNIQUELY DIFFICULTTIMES IN YOUR LIFE, GREAT TIMES
  • 00:21:29.543 --> 00:21:30.745
  • TIMES IN YOUR LIFE, GREAT TIMESAND DIFFICULT TIMES, YOUR
  • 00:21:30.745 --> 00:21:34.715
  • AND DIFFICULT TIMES, YOURPOSITION TO REALLY SPEAK ON THIS
  • 00:21:34.715 --> 00:21:37.718
  • POSITION TO REALLY SPEAK ON THISSUBJECT, "OBEY GOD, LEAVE ALL
  • 00:21:37.718 --> 00:21:39.320
  • SUBJECT, "OBEY GOD, LEAVE ALLTHE CONSEQUENCES TO HIM," WOULD
  • 00:21:39.320 --> 00:21:40.488
  • THE CONSEQUENCES TO HIM," WOULDYOU DO THAT TO OUR AUDIENCE?
  • 00:21:40.488 --> 00:21:41.455
  • YOU DO THAT TO OUR AUDIENCE?- LAURIE: AND THEN PRAY FOR
  • 00:21:41.455 --> 00:21:42.123
  • - LAURIE: AND THEN PRAY FORPEOPLE.
  • 00:21:42.123 --> 00:21:43.057
  • PEOPLE.- MATT: AND THEN I'D LOVE FOR
  • 00:21:43.057 --> 00:21:43.958
  • - MATT: AND THEN I'D LOVE FORYOU TO PRAY FOR FOLKS.
  • 00:21:43.958 --> 00:21:44.458
  • YOU TO PRAY FOR FOLKS.THAT'D BE AWESOME.
  • 00:21:44.458 --> 00:21:46.994
  • THAT'D BE AWESOME.- CHARLES: WELL, IF YOU OBEY
  • 00:21:46.994 --> 00:21:47.995
  • - CHARLES: WELL, IF YOU OBEYGOD, IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE
  • 00:21:47.995 --> 00:21:49.196
  • GOD, IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BEEASY.
  • 00:21:49.196 --> 00:21:50.598
  • EASY.IN FACT, SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOU
  • 00:21:50.598 --> 00:21:51.866
  • IN FACT, SOMETIMES YOU THINK YOUJUST CAN'T DO IT, BUT THAT'S
  • 00:21:51.866 --> 00:21:54.468
  • JUST CAN'T DO IT, BUT THAT'SWHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
  • 00:21:54.468 --> 00:21:55.736
  • WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THECOURAGE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS
  • 00:21:55.736 --> 00:21:57.471
  • COURAGE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD ISWHO HE SAYS HE IS AND THAT HE'LL
  • 00:21:57.471 --> 00:21:59.507
  • WHO HE SAYS HE IS AND THAT HE'LLDO WHAT HE SAYS HE'LL DO, AND
  • 00:21:59.507 --> 00:22:01.742
  • DO WHAT HE SAYS HE'LL DO, ANDI'VE LIVED LONG ENOUGH, AND I'VE
  • 00:22:01.742 --> 00:22:03.043
  • I'VE LIVED LONG ENOUGH, AND I'VEBEEN A CHRISTIAN LONG ENOUGH AND
  • 00:22:03.043 --> 00:22:04.578
  • BEEN A CHRISTIAN LONG ENOUGH ANDA PASTOR LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW
  • 00:22:04.578 --> 00:22:07.081
  • A PASTOR LONG ENOUGH TO KNOWTHIS: YOU CAN LEAVE ALL THE
  • 00:22:07.081 --> 00:22:09.450
  • THIS: YOU CAN LEAVE ALL THECONSEQUENCES THAT YOU FACE
  • 00:22:09.450 --> 00:22:12.620
  • CONSEQUENCES THAT YOU FACEBEFORE GOD, AND HE WILL ALWAYS
  • 00:22:12.620 --> 00:22:16.157
  • BEFORE GOD, AND HE WILL ALWAYSBE THERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
  • 00:22:16.157 --> 00:22:18.659
  • BE THERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH SITUATIONS
  • 00:22:18.659 --> 00:22:19.427
  • AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH SITUATIONSAND CIRCUMSTANCES, IF SOMEBODY
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  • AND CIRCUMSTANCES, IF SOMEBODYHAD TOLD ME I WAS GONNA FACE
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  • HAD TOLD ME I WAS GONNA FACETHEM, I'D SAY, "NO," BUT BY
  • 00:22:22.430 --> 00:22:25.299
  • THEM, I'D SAY, "NO," BUT BYLEAVING ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TO
  • 00:22:25.299 --> 00:22:26.967
  • LEAVING ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TOHIM, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS:
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  • HIM, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THIS:YOU'RE SAYING, "GOD, I TRUST YA.
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  • YOU'RE SAYING, "GOD, I TRUST YA.I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE BIG
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  • I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE BIGENOUGH.
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  • ENOUGH.I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE LOVING
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  • I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE LOVINGENOUGH.
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  • ENOUGH.I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THE
  • 00:22:34.108 --> 00:22:35.676
  • I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THEPOWER TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER
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  • POWER TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVERHAPPENS AS A RESULT OF MY
  • 00:22:36.310 --> 00:22:39.447
  • HAPPENS AS A RESULT OF MYOBEDIENCE TO WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME
  • 00:22:39.447 --> 00:22:40.981
  • OBEDIENCE TO WHAT YOU'VE TOLD METO DO."
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  • TO DO."NOW, YOU HAVE TO BE SURE THAT
  • 00:22:41.682 --> 00:22:43.350
  • NOW, YOU HAVE TO BE SURE THATIT'S NOT JUST YOUR OPINION
  • 00:22:43.350 --> 00:22:44.885
  • IT'S NOT JUST YOUR OPINIONOR WHAT YOU WANNA DO, BUT HAS
  • 00:22:44.885 --> 00:22:45.986
  • OR WHAT YOU WANNA DO, BUT HASGOD TOLD YOU, HAS GOD SPOKEN TO
  • 00:22:45.986 --> 00:22:47.087
  • GOD TOLD YOU, HAS GOD SPOKEN TOYOU?
  • 00:22:47.087 --> 00:22:48.522
  • YOU?AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS
  • 00:22:48.522 --> 00:22:50.458
  • AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS"WELL, HOW WILL I KNOW?"
  • 00:22:50.458 --> 00:22:51.659
  • "WELL, HOW WILL I KNOW?"LISTEN CAREFULLY: ANYBODY WHO IS
  • 00:22:51.659 --> 00:22:54.862
  • LISTEN CAREFULLY: ANYBODY WHO ISA BELIEVER, A FOLLOWER OF JESUS,
  • 00:22:54.862 --> 00:22:58.232
  • A BELIEVER, A FOLLOWER OF JESUS,WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH, GOD
  • 00:22:58.232 --> 00:22:58.999
  • WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH, GODWILL SHOW YOU THE TRUTH AND SHOW
  • 00:22:58.999 --> 00:23:01.435
  • WILL SHOW YOU THE TRUTH AND SHOWYOU WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:23:01.435 --> 00:23:02.937
  • YOU WHAT TO DO.NOW, IF THAT BECOMES A HABIT IN
  • 00:23:02.937 --> 00:23:04.472
  • NOW, IF THAT BECOMES A HABIT INYOUR LIFE, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THE
  • 00:23:04.472 --> 00:23:07.107
  • YOUR LIFE, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE THEFIRST TIME HE CHALLENGES YOU TO
  • 00:23:07.107 --> 00:23:08.742
  • FIRST TIME HE CHALLENGES YOU TOLISTEN TO HIM AND OBEY HIM, YOU
  • 00:23:08.742 --> 00:23:10.878
  • LISTEN TO HIM AND OBEY HIM, YOUDO IT.
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  • DO IT.IF YOU FUDGE A LITTLE BIT AND
  • 00:23:12.546 --> 00:23:14.114
  • IF YOU FUDGE A LITTLE BIT ANDSAY, "WELL, I'M--" NO, WHATEVER
  • 00:23:14.114 --> 00:23:16.016
  • SAY, "WELL, I'M--" NO, WHATEVERHE TELLS YOU TO DO, DO EXACTLY
  • 00:23:16.016 --> 00:23:18.419
  • HE TELLS YOU TO DO, DO EXACTLYWHAT HE TELLS YOU.
  • 00:23:18.419 --> 00:23:19.687
  • WHAT HE TELLS YOU.AND THEN THINK ABOUT THIS:
  • 00:23:19.687 --> 00:23:21.155
  • AND THEN THINK ABOUT THIS:YOU'VE OBEYED GOD, WHO CONTROLS
  • 00:23:21.155 --> 00:23:23.257
  • YOU'VE OBEYED GOD, WHO CONTROLSEVERYTHING.
  • 00:23:23.257 --> 00:23:24.625
  • EVERYTHING.HE'S IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING.
  • 00:23:24.625 --> 00:23:26.427
  • HE'S IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING.YOU HAVE OBEYED HIM, AND NOW YOU
  • 00:23:26.427 --> 00:23:27.828
  • YOU HAVE OBEYED HIM, AND NOW YOUARE TRUSTING HIM TO BE THE GOD
  • 00:23:27.828 --> 00:23:30.464
  • ARE TRUSTING HIM TO BE THE GODTHAT HE SAYS HE IS, AND THE WORD
  • 00:23:30.464 --> 00:23:31.699
  • THAT HE SAYS HE IS, AND THE WORDOF GOD, WHICH YOU AND I READ AND
  • 00:23:31.699 --> 00:23:34.468
  • OF GOD, WHICH YOU AND I READ ANDBELIEVE.
  • 00:23:34.468 --> 00:23:38.172
  • BELIEVE.IF YOU'LL BEGIN PURPOSELY
  • 00:23:38.172 --> 00:23:39.073
  • IF YOU'LL BEGIN PURPOSELYOBEYING GOD IN A DIFFICULT TIME
  • 00:23:39.073 --> 00:23:42.142
  • OBEYING GOD IN A DIFFICULT TIMEIN YOUR LIFE, HERE'S WHAT YOU
  • 00:23:42.142 --> 00:23:43.110
  • IN YOUR LIFE, HERE'S WHAT YOUCAN DISCOVER.
  • 00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:43.811
  • CAN DISCOVER.YOU'RE GONNA DISCOVER THIS IS
  • 00:23:43.811 --> 00:23:45.012
  • YOU'RE GONNA DISCOVER THIS ISTHE WAY TO LIVE.
  • 00:23:45.012 --> 00:23:46.614
  • THE WAY TO LIVE.YOU MAY GET DISAPPOINTED, BUT IT
  • 00:23:46.614 --> 00:23:47.982
  • YOU MAY GET DISAPPOINTED, BUT ITWON'T BE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KEEP
  • 00:23:47.982 --> 00:23:48.983
  • WON'T BE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KEEPHIS WORD.
  • 00:23:48.983 --> 00:23:51.552
  • HIS WORD.GOD WILL KEEP HIS WORD IF YOU
  • 00:23:51.552 --> 00:23:53.754
  • GOD WILL KEEP HIS WORD IF YOUWILL OBEY HIM.
  • 00:23:53.754 --> 00:23:55.256
  • WILL OBEY HIM.I DON'T THINK I'D CHANGE ANY
  • 00:23:55.256 --> 00:23:57.191
  • I DON'T THINK I'D CHANGE ANYMAJOR DECISION OF MY LIFE SINCE
  • 00:23:57.191 --> 00:23:59.460
  • MAJOR DECISION OF MY LIFE SINCEI LEARNED THAT TRUTH.
  • 00:23:59.460 --> 00:24:01.195
  • I LEARNED THAT TRUTH.I CAN'T THINK THAT I WOULD.
  • 00:24:01.195 --> 00:24:02.663
  • I CAN'T THINK THAT I WOULD.I CAN'T NAME ONE THAT I WOULD
  • 00:24:02.663 --> 00:24:05.499
  • I CAN'T NAME ONE THAT I WOULDCHANGE BECAUSE GOD IS FAITHFUL,
  • 00:24:05.499 --> 00:24:07.568
  • CHANGE BECAUSE GOD IS FAITHFUL,AND GOD IS TRUE TO HIS WORD.
  • 00:24:07.568 --> 00:24:09.870
  • AND GOD IS TRUE TO HIS WORD.TRUST HIM.
  • 00:24:09.870 --> 00:24:11.438
  • TRUST HIM."TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR
  • 00:24:11.438 --> 00:24:12.039
  • "TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOURHEART.
  • 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:13.974
  • HEART.LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN
  • 00:24:13.974 --> 00:24:15.242
  • LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWNUNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:24:15.242 --> 00:24:15.976
  • UNDERSTANDING.IN ALL YOUR WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE
  • 00:24:15.976 --> 00:24:18.045
  • IN ALL YOUR WAYS ACKNOWLEDGEHIM, AND HE WILL DIRECT YOUR
  • 00:24:18.045 --> 00:24:20.748
  • HIM, AND HE WILL DIRECT YOURPATH."
  • 00:24:20.748 --> 00:24:22.116
  • PATH."YOU CAN'T EVER GO WRONG
  • 00:24:22.116 --> 00:24:24.051
  • YOU CAN'T EVER GO WRONGTRUSTING GOD, AND THAT'S MY
  • 00:24:24.051 --> 00:24:25.486
  • TRUSTING GOD, AND THAT'S MYPRAYER FOR YOU.
  • 00:24:25.486 --> 00:24:27.421
  • PRAYER FOR YOU.SO LET'S PRAY.
  • 00:24:27.421 --> 00:24:28.722
  • SO LET'S PRAY.FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING
  • 00:24:28.722 --> 00:24:30.691
  • FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR BEINGWHO YOU ARE: AWESOME, WONDERFUL,
  • 00:24:30.691 --> 00:24:35.362
  • WHO YOU ARE: AWESOME, WONDERFUL,ENCOURAGING FATHER.
  • 00:24:35.362 --> 00:24:38.666
  • ENCOURAGING FATHER.I PRAY THAT EVERY PERSON WHO HAS
  • 00:24:38.666 --> 00:24:40.834
  • I PRAY THAT EVERY PERSON WHO HASWATCHED THIS INTERVIEW, IF THEY
  • 00:24:40.834 --> 00:24:42.970
  • WATCHED THIS INTERVIEW, IF THEYTAKE AWAY NOTHING, LET 'EM TAKE
  • 00:24:42.970 --> 00:24:44.338
  • TAKE AWAY NOTHING, LET 'EM TAKEAWAY THAT SIMPLE TRUTH: YOU'RE A
  • 00:24:44.338 --> 00:24:46.273
  • AWAY THAT SIMPLE TRUTH: YOU'RE ATRUSTWORTHY GOD, OMNIPOTENT,
  • 00:24:46.273 --> 00:24:48.776
  • TRUSTWORTHY GOD, OMNIPOTENT,OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT,
  • 00:24:48.776 --> 00:24:50.210
  • OMNISCIENT, OMNIPRESENT,AWESOME, LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER.
  • 00:24:50.210 --> 00:24:52.246
  • AWESOME, LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER.YOU CAN BE TRUSTED IN EVERY
  • 00:24:52.246 --> 00:24:53.213
  • YOU CAN BE TRUSTED IN EVERYSINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE."
  • 00:24:53.213 --> 00:24:56.717
  • SINGLE CIRCUMSTANCE."MAY THAT TRUTH SINK
  • 00:24:56.717 --> 00:24:58.152
  • MAY THAT TRUTH SINKDEEP IN THEIR HEARTS TO
  • 00:24:58.152 --> 00:25:01.255
  • DEEP IN THEIR HEARTS TORECOGNIZE THERE IS NO BETTER
  • 00:25:01.255 --> 00:25:03.958
  • RECOGNIZE THERE IS NO BETTERWAY TO LIVE THAN TO LIVE
  • 00:25:03.958 --> 00:25:06.694
  • WAY TO LIVE THAN TO LIVETRUSTING YOU AND BELIEVING THAT
  • 00:25:06.694 --> 00:25:08.028
  • TRUSTING YOU AND BELIEVING THATYOU'LL ALWAYS KEEP YOUR WORD, IN
  • 00:25:08.028 --> 00:25:10.331
  • YOU'LL ALWAYS KEEP YOUR WORD, INJESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
  • 00:25:10.331 --> 00:25:12.166
  • JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.- MATT: AMEN, AMEN, WOW.
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  • - MATT: AMEN, AMEN, WOW.WOW, WOW, WOW.
  • 00:25:14.335 --> 00:25:16.370
  • WOW, WOW, WOW.OBEY GOD.
  • 00:25:16.370 --> 00:25:17.371
  • OBEY GOD.LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TO
  • 00:25:17.371 --> 00:25:18.872
  • LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES TOHIM.
  • 00:25:18.872 --> 00:25:19.840
  • HIM.DR. CHARLES STANLEY, FIRST OF
  • 00:25:19.840 --> 00:25:21.609
  • DR. CHARLES STANLEY, FIRST OFALL, THANK YOU.
  • 00:25:21.609 --> 00:25:22.376
  • ALL, THANK YOU.THIS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
  • 00:25:22.376 --> 00:25:25.346
  • THIS HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.OUR AUDIENCE LOVES YOU.
  • 00:25:25.346 --> 00:25:27.181
  • OUR AUDIENCE LOVES YOU.- LAURIE: WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:25:27.181 --> 00:25:28.449
  • - LAURIE: WE LOVE YOU.- MATT: WE JUST-- YOU KNOW,
  • 00:25:28.449 --> 00:25:29.249
  • - MATT: WE JUST-- YOU KNOW,AMAZING THING.
  • 00:25:29.249 --> 00:25:31.285
  • AMAZING THING.WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SAY
  • 00:25:31.285 --> 00:25:32.486
  • WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SAYABOUT YOU AFTER YOU'RE GONE?
  • 00:25:32.486 --> 00:25:39.426
  • ABOUT YOU AFTER YOU'RE GONE?NOT TO YOUR PHOTOGRAPHY TRIP--
  • 00:25:39.426 --> 00:25:42.062
  • NOT TO YOUR PHOTOGRAPHY TRIP--AFTER YOU'RE IN HEAVEN.
  • 00:25:42.062 --> 00:25:47.134
  • AFTER YOU'RE IN HEAVEN.- CHARLES: I WANT-- YOU LET ME
  • 00:25:47.134 --> 00:25:48.135
  • - CHARLES: I WANT-- YOU LET MEGET OVER THIS?
  • 00:25:48.135 --> 00:25:48.802
  • GET OVER THIS?I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT
  • 00:25:48.802 --> 00:25:53.307
  • I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THATNECESSARILY.
  • 00:25:53.307 --> 00:25:54.642
  • NECESSARILY.BUT I'D WANT THEM TO SAY, "HE
  • 00:25:54.642 --> 00:25:57.444
  • BUT I'D WANT THEM TO SAY, "HEBELIEVED THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT
  • 00:25:57.444 --> 00:25:59.346
  • BELIEVED THAT THE MOST IMPORTANTTRUTH IN HIS LIFE IS 'OBEY GOD
  • 00:25:59.346 --> 00:26:00.648
  • TRUTH IN HIS LIFE IS 'OBEY GODAND LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCES
  • 00:26:00.648 --> 00:26:03.717
  • AND LEAVE ALL THE CONSEQUENCESTO HIM,' AND IT APPEARS FROM
  • 00:26:03.717 --> 00:26:05.219
  • TO HIM,' AND IT APPEARS FROMWHAT WE SEE AND HEARD, THAT'S
  • 00:26:05.219 --> 00:26:07.755
  • WHAT WE SEE AND HEARD, THAT'STHE WAY HE LIVED."
  • 00:26:07.755 --> 00:26:11.425
  • THE WAY HE LIVED."I'D LIKE FOR IT
  • 00:26:11.425 --> 00:26:12.159
  • I'D LIKE FOR ITTO BE THAT WAY.
  • 00:26:12.159 --> 00:26:12.726
  • TO BE THAT WAY.- MATT: THANK YOU.
  • 00:26:12.726 --> 00:26:13.327
  • - MATT: THANK YOU.WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
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