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Bobby Schuller hosts Ray Comfort.

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  • - female announcer: Tonight,
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  • it's the most wonderful time
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  • of the year.
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  • - Bobby Schuller: Yeah,
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  • that's right.
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  • - Ray Comfort: Clang,
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  • clang, clang.
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  • - announcer: Pastor Ray Comfort
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  • is here to show us how to share
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  • the gospel this Christmas
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  • season.
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  • - Ray Comfort: We need
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  • a victim...
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  • - Bobby: You have this video
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  • called "Christmas Gone Viral."
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah.
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  • - Ray: Christmas is
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  • the greatest springboard
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  • we could ever have.
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  • - announcer: And a surprise
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  • you don't want to miss.
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  • - Bobby: It's driving me crazy.
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  • - announcer: An all new
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  • - Bobby: Welcome to "Praise."
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  • We're so glad you're
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  • joining us today.
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  • I'm Bobby Schuller, host of
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  • the "Hour of Power."
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  • I'm here on Saturday
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  • night every single week
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  • on TBN on the "Hour of Power."
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  • And gosh, you know, this is
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  • the time of the season during
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  • Christmas where so many of us,
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  • you know, we see so many happy
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  • people, and happy families, and
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  • happy friends, and a lot of
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  • times we're getting super busy
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  • that a lot of times we just
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  • come home.
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  • Maybe you're just watching after
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  • a long day at work or something
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  • like that and you just need some
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  • hope in your life.
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  • You don't have that kind of joy
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  • or hope that you sort of see in
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  • a lot of movies, a lot of things
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  • like that.
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  • And I just believe that tonight
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  • God has a Word for you.
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  • Maybe you're just sitting there
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  • and you're wondering, "Why
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  • should I have hope?
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  • Bobby, you don't know, I'm sick,
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  • maybe I'm poor, maybe I feel
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  • lost, or maybe I'm addicted."
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  • And we want you to know that
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  • Jesus Christ, the name above
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  • all names, can bring freedom
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  • in every aspect of your life,
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  • especially in this area, that
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  • you can have true hope that not
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  • only in this life, but in
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  • the life to come, God's gonna
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  • side, and that he's done amazing
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  • things to save you
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  • and rescue you.
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  • And I'm so--that's why I'm so
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  • excited to have Ray Comfort
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  • tonight as our guest.
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  • Ray, hi,
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  • so glad to have you here.
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  • - Ray Comfort: Thank you.
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  • - Bobby: For those who are
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  • unfamiliar with Ray, I mean he's
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  • a true legend, especially in
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  • the areas of evangelism.
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  • He's the founder and CEO of
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  • Living Waters and the
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  • best-selling author of more than
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  • 80 books, which is crazy.
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  • You've written 80 books.
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  • I'm writing number three, and
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  • that's driving me crazy.
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  • And some of these books, "Hell's
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  • Best Kept Secret," "How To Know
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  • God Exists," "The evidence of
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  • the Bible."
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  • You're an apologist,
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  • an evangelist.
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  • He co-hosts the award-winning
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  • television program "The Way of
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  • the Master," seen in almost 200
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  • countries.
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  • Ray and his wife have three
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  • children and Ray, you never
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  • do you?
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  • - Ray: No, absolutely not.
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  • And I've said for years,
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  • if anyone finds me in public
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  • without tracts, I'll give them
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  • a thousand dollars cash.
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  • I've said that for years.
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  • - Bobby: Really?
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  • - Ray: Yeah, and someone saw
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  • the a swimming pool once and
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  • went, "Ah-ha."
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  • I went ah-ha.
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  • - Bobby: Really?
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  • - Ray: Yeah, always got tracts
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  • on me because it means
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  • And often I don't have them in
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  • a pocket because, you know, the
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  • Bible says, "Make no provision
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  • for the flesh."
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  • I tend to do that with
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  • evangelism.
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  • Oh, I walk past a guy who may
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  • not be a Christian and I just
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  • wasn't quick enough.
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  • So, often when I go through a
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  • mall, I'll carry them on my hand
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  • so that I'm ready.
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  • I've got the bullets ready.
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  • I can want really use that
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  • analogy, but I've got my tracts
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  • because God uses tracts
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  • and so should we.
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  • He uses tracts to save people.
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  • It's the written Word.
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  • So, I've always carried them.
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  • - Bobby: So, I want to get into
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  • tracts, and I want to get into
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  • some of the things that you do,
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  • but first, I kind of want to
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  • hear your story.
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  • you should know that you are
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  • a man who is totally born and
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  • lives to preach the gospel.
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  • I mean, I just see that--I mean,
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  • you see it there in this whole
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  • tract thing.
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  • But in every aspect of your
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  • life, you want the lost
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  • to be saved.
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  • And your ministry, your life,
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  • your personal life, it's all
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  • built around that.
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  • How did you get to--first of
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  • all, that's accurate,
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  • wouldn't you say?
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  • - Ray: Yeah, but I got there by
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  • becoming a Christian.
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  • - Bobby: Yeah.
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  • - Ray: I'm a normal, biblical
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  • Christian.
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  • I think everyone should be
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  • absolutely horrified that hell
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  • exists.
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  • I mean, could you walk past a
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  • child who's drowning in a
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  • swimming pool and do nothing?
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  • And the Bible uses a more
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  • fearful analogy, it says,
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  • "Others save with fear pulling
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  • them from the fire."
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  • If hell didn't exist,
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  • our ministry wouldn't exist.
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  • I'd be--I would have left
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  • New Zealand, gone to Australia--
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  • here on some beach just lying
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  • around but I can't do that.
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  • And so, everyone Saturday we go
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  • to Huntington Beach, and we've
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  • done it for almost every day,
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  • every Sunday, for the last
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  • 12 years and preach the gospel
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  • to the unsaved.
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  • And I know I'm going somewhere
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  • I don't want to go to say
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  • something I don't want to say to
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  • people who don't want to hear
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  • it, but I have to.
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  • The love of Christ compels me.
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  • - Bobby: I love that because
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  • it's like, I'm asking this
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  • question, why are you so
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  • passionate about saving lost
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  • people?
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  • And your answer is, "Because I'm
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  • a biblical Christian, because
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  • that's what all Christians
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  • should do.
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  • That's what we ought to do.
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  • That's our mandate."
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  • And I think it's so--I know
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  • for me personally,
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  • you know, I sort of
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  • grew up as a pastor's kid and
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  • spent a lot of my time going to
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  • church events, doing church
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  • programs, but I had a radical
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  • salvation experience and that
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  • was the first thing I did and it
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  • actually fueled my faith.
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  • I think that one of the times I
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  • was closest to God is the first
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  • girl that I met her at a party.
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  • She was into the occult and all
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  • this stuff and, you know, in my
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  • imperfect, you know, not very
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  • good way, I just felt compelled
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  • to share my faith as a teenager.
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  • And I look at how that event
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  • changed my life, that I was
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  • filled with fire, and joy, and
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  • it's like the Lord used me
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  • to change someone's
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  • eternal destiny.
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  • - Ray: Yeah, there's no greater
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  • joy than to share the gospel
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  • with someone, just like pulling
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  • a child from a swimming pool
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  • and saving a life.
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  • "Let him know he that saves a
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  • sinner from the area--error of
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  • his ways shall save a soul from
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  • death and hide a multitude
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  • of sins."
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  • And when you read
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  • the Book of Acts, that's all
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  • they cared about.
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  • They lived and breathed
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  • evangelism.
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  • It's as though evangelism is a
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  • dirty word, you know?
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  • But it shouldn't be.
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  • That's the reason the church
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  • exists because the love of God
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  • constrains us to reach out to
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  • the unsaved.
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  • And most Christians don't do
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  • that probably because they don't
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  • know how.
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  • You know, if I pushed you in the
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  • heat of battle armed with a
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  • feather duster, you're not gonna
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  • be very courageous.
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  • But if I gave you
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  • state-of-the-art weapons and
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  • taught you how to use them,
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  • then those weapons would
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  • give you courage.
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  • And the Bible gives us weapons
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  • of warfare that are not carnal
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  • but mighty through God in the
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  • pulling down of strongholds.
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  • And one of the strongest weapons
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  • we can have when sharing the
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  • lost is the sinner's conscience.
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  • God has put an ally right in the
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  • heart of the enemy that we can
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  • make contact with and there's
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  • a way to make contact with the
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  • conscience and that's by doing
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  • what Jesus did and opening up
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  • the moral law, the Ten
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  • Commandments.
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  • So, when I meet a sinner, I
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  • don't argue with them about the
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  • existence of God because I know
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  • that every human being knows
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  • that God exists.
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  • Some deny it, they call
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  • themselves atheists.
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  • - Bobby: So important, please
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  • say that again.
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  • I think that's such a great--
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  • - Ray: Every human being
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  • knows that God exists.
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  • God has given light to every
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  • man.
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  • "The invisible things of him
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  • from the creation of the world
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  • are clearly seen, being
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  • understood by the things that
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  • are made, even his eternal power
  • 00:07:00.220 --> 00:07:01.190
  • and Godhead; so that they are
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  • without excuse."
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  • So, when I meet an atheist,
  • 00:07:03.210 --> 00:07:04.140
  • I say, "So you're atheist,
  • 00:07:04.140 --> 00:07:06.000
  • so you believe the scientific
  • 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.200
  • impossiblity that nothing
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  • created everything?"
  • 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.010
  • And they go, "Well, I don't
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  • believe that."
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  • I say, "Well,
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  • you're not an atheist then
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  • 'cause atheism is the epitome
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  • of insanity.
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  • It's crazy."
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  • - Bobby: I even heard
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  • Richard Dawkins admit that
  • 00:07:19.080 --> 00:07:20.070
  • he wasn't actually an atheist,
  • 00:07:20.070 --> 00:07:21.160
  • he was an agnostic 'cause he
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  • didn't have all the data or
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  • something like that.
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  • - Ray: Yeah, that's just about
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  • as dumb.
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  • It's like looking at a builder
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  • instead of saying there's no
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  • builder, you say, I don't know
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  • if there was a builder.
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  • The building is proof
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  • of the builder.
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  • The painting is proof of the
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  • painter, and creation is proof
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  • of the creator.
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  • And not only that, we know that
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  • God inquires morality because of
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  • that conscience, with conscience
  • 00:07:39.150 --> 00:07:41.000
  • means with knowledge.
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  • Con- is with science is
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  • knowledge, so we have these
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  • things to help us and help us in
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  • our fears.
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  • - Bobby: That's good.
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  • I--one of the things that I
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  • remember, there's--I'm trying to
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  • remember his time name.
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  • There's this magician duo
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  • in Las Vegas.
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  • It's the short guy and the--
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  • - Ray: Penn Jillette.
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  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's right.
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  • Okay, Penn Jillette, I remember
  • 00:07:58.080 --> 00:07:59.110
  • he was talking about--he did
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  • this YouTube video about
  • 00:08:01.260 --> 00:08:04.050
  • Christians, and he was saying
  • 00:08:04.050 --> 00:08:05.280
  • how if Christians really believe
  • 00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:08.100
  • there is a hell, he was saying,
  • 00:08:08.100 --> 00:08:11.000
  • how much do you have to hate
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  • your neighbor to not
  • 00:08:13.130 --> 00:08:16.130
  • witness to them?
  • 00:08:16.130 --> 00:08:17.270
  • And it was really insightful.
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  • And he was--what he was
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  • essentially doing was saying, I
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  • interpreted it as, "It's almost
  • 00:08:21.210 --> 00:08:23.180
  • more offensive when Christians
  • 00:08:23.180 --> 00:08:25.160
  • claim to believe in heaven and
  • 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.210
  • hell and not care about me than
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  • to like very gently
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  • share their faith."
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  • He even shared a story about
  • 00:08:33.140 --> 00:08:34.100
  • a fan who came and shared
  • 00:08:34.100 --> 00:08:35.100
  • a Bible with him, and shared
  • 00:08:35.100 --> 00:08:36.210
  • his faith, and how he
  • 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:37.130
  • was an atheist.
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  • - Ray: We found out who
  • 00:08:38.250 --> 00:08:39.130
  • that was--
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  • - Bobby: Oh, so you know
  • 00:08:40.060 --> 00:08:41.000
  • the story?
  • 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:41.200
  • - Ray: And I interviewed him,
  • 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.220
  • and I got to witness to
  • 00:08:42.220 --> 00:08:44.080
  • Penn Jillette personally
  • 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:45.140
  • for over 25 minutes
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  • in Washington, D.C.
  • 00:08:47.020 --> 00:08:48.050
  • And he said, he said, "If a
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  • truck is bearing down on you and
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  • you didn't know it, the time
  • 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:52.240
  • would come when I would tackle
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  • you because I care about you,
  • 00:08:54.150 --> 00:08:57.060
  • and that such
  • 00:08:57.060 --> 00:08:57.280
  • an important thing."
  • 00:08:57.280 --> 00:08:58.180
  • So, when I saw that video years
  • 00:08:58.180 --> 00:09:00.080
  • ago, it went viral among
  • 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.060
  • Christian circles.
  • 00:09:01.060 --> 00:09:02.110
  • I just cried out, "God, I'd just
  • 00:09:02.110 --> 00:09:03.160
  • love to say to Penn Jillette,
  • 00:09:03.160 --> 00:09:04.230
  • 'Thank you for making that
  • 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:05.290
  • video.'"
  • 00:09:05.290 --> 00:09:06.180
  • So, I found out while doing
  • 00:09:06.180 --> 00:09:08.110
  • an interview with Las Vegas
  • 00:09:08.110 --> 00:09:09.200
  • radio station who that guy
  • 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.160
  • was, and we got him over and we
  • 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:12.210
  • interviewed him and it's coming
  • 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:14.000
  • out in a movie I made called
  • 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:15.050
  • "Banana Man" next year, so it's
  • 00:09:15.050 --> 00:09:16.230
  • very exciting.
  • 00:09:16.230 --> 00:09:17.290
  • - Bobby: What's it called,
  • 00:09:17.290 --> 00:09:18.290
  • "Banana Man"?
  • 00:09:18.290 --> 00:09:19.240
  • - Ray: "Banana man."
  • 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:20.200
  • - Bobby: "Banana man"?
  • 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:21.230
  • - Ray: I can't say the word
  • 00:09:21.230 --> 00:09:22.130
  • "banana" in American, can I?
  • 00:09:22.130 --> 00:09:25.050
  • - Bobby: You're a kiwi, that's
  • 00:09:25.050 --> 00:09:25.270
  • right.
  • 00:09:25.270 --> 00:09:26.170
  • - Ray: Okay, "Banana Man,"
  • 00:09:26.170 --> 00:09:27.150
  • yeah.
  • 00:09:27.150 --> 00:09:30.050
  • - Bobby: Okay, so "Banana Man."
  • 00:09:30.050 --> 00:09:31.080
  • - Ray: Yes, that's right.
  • 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.040
  • - Bobby: Well, great.
  • 00:09:32.040 --> 00:09:33.020
  • - Ray: It's a very exciting
  • 00:09:33.020 --> 00:09:33.250
  • story.
  • 00:09:33.250 --> 00:09:34.150
  • - Bobby: And you said that--
  • 00:09:34.150 --> 00:09:35.240
  • see, 'cause I agree with this.
  • 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.020
  • I think that most Christians
  • 00:09:37.020 --> 00:09:38.200
  • don't share their faith.
  • 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:39.290
  • I think most would like to, they
  • 00:09:39.290 --> 00:09:41.260
  • would like to see, or would love
  • 00:09:41.260 --> 00:09:43.060
  • to see, their unsaved neighbors
  • 00:09:43.060 --> 00:09:44.200
  • be a part of a church, know the
  • 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.140
  • Lord, go to heaven, but they
  • 00:09:46.140 --> 00:09:47.160
  • don't know how, right?
  • 00:09:47.160 --> 00:09:49.080
  • And they've never done it that
  • 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:50.170
  • first time.
  • 00:09:50.170 --> 00:09:51.130
  • And so, that's why you're
  • 00:09:51.130 --> 00:09:52.270
  • passionate about things like
  • 00:09:52.270 --> 00:09:53.280
  • tracts and things like that.
  • 00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:55.000
  • Tell me a little bit about
  • 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.170
  • some of things that you do.
  • 00:09:56.170 --> 00:09:57.160
  • First of all, does this work?
  • 00:09:57.160 --> 00:09:59.050
  • - Ray: Oh yeah, I teach people
  • 00:09:59.050 --> 00:10:00.010
  • how to give out tracts.
  • 00:10:00.010 --> 00:10:01.010
  • What you do is you take it in
  • 00:10:01.010 --> 00:10:02.110
  • your hand like this, you hold
  • 00:10:02.110 --> 00:10:04.250
  • it, and then you send a message
  • 00:10:04.250 --> 00:10:06.090
  • to the arm to stretch, and when
  • 00:10:06.090 --> 00:10:08.010
  • someone goes to take the tract,
  • 00:10:08.010 --> 00:10:09.160
  • you let it go.
  • 00:10:09.160 --> 00:10:10.250
  • It's a 6-week training course.
  • 00:10:10.250 --> 00:10:12.230
  • But yeah, it's really easy
  • 00:10:12.230 --> 00:10:14.110
  • to give out a gospel tract.
  • 00:10:14.110 --> 00:10:15.160
  • We publish tracts, I think 250
  • 00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:18.140
  • million have gone out and this
  • 00:10:18.140 --> 00:10:20.010
  • is our million dollar bill.
  • 00:10:20.010 --> 00:10:21.260
  • It's got the gospel on the back
  • 00:10:21.260 --> 00:10:23.150
  • and when people take it and say,
  • 00:10:23.250 --> 00:10:26.250
  • "What is this?"
  • 00:10:26.250 --> 00:10:27.190
  • I say, "What is it?
  • 00:10:27.190 --> 00:10:29.030
  • You won't something bigger?"
  • 00:10:29.030 --> 00:10:31.060
  • And you can go--
  • 00:10:31.060 --> 00:10:32.120
  • - Bobby: Technically,
  • 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:33.050
  • it's smaller.
  • 00:10:33.050 --> 00:10:34.000
  • - Ray: The government started
  • 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:34.230
  • this off with, "In God with
  • 00:10:34.230 --> 00:10:36.080
  • trust," and so we just finish it
  • 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.150
  • with a gospel message.
  • 00:10:38.150 --> 00:10:39.240
  • But when people take this, they
  • 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:40.240
  • come up and ask for more.
  • 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.080
  • So, let me just show you a few
  • 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:43.150
  • of our tracts here.
  • 00:10:43.150 --> 00:10:44.220
  • This is the wallet tract, great
  • 00:10:44.220 --> 00:10:47.040
  • creative name, isn't it?
  • 00:10:47.040 --> 00:10:49.050
  • But when you open it up, it has
  • 00:10:49.050 --> 00:10:50.050
  • money on the inside and credit
  • 00:10:50.050 --> 00:10:51.100
  • cards, and it opens up further
  • 00:10:51.100 --> 00:10:53.040
  • and has the gospel on the
  • 00:10:53.040 --> 00:10:55.000
  • inside.
  • 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:55.240
  • Let me teach you how
  • 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:56.130
  • to give this out.
  • 00:10:56.130 --> 00:10:57.050
  • - Bobby: Okay, all right.
  • 00:10:57.050 --> 00:10:59.220
  • - Ray: Now, the next one--
  • 00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:02.200
  • - Bobby: Now wait, hold on.
  • 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.170
  • That is hilarious, by the way.
  • 00:11:04.170 --> 00:11:06.170
  • I actually remember when I was
  • 00:11:06.170 --> 00:11:07.180
  • a kid, we took a quarter
  • 00:11:07.180 --> 00:11:10.050
  • and we glued it to the ground.
  • 00:11:10.050 --> 00:11:11.280
  • And we loved to watch passersby
  • 00:11:11.280 --> 00:11:13.240
  • try and pick up this quarter
  • 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.090
  • and they couldn't get it.
  • 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:16.090
  • And we just had the greatest
  • 00:11:16.090 --> 00:11:17.060
  • laugh.
  • 00:11:17.060 --> 00:11:17.260
  • No, no, no, in the past.
  • 00:11:17.260 --> 00:11:19.100
  • We just glued--we would glue--me
  • 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:21.270
  • and my buddies would glue, you
  • 00:11:21.270 --> 00:11:23.170
  • know, we were like 10.
  • 00:11:23.170 --> 00:11:24.160
  • We'd glue a quarter to the
  • 00:11:24.160 --> 00:11:25.130
  • sidewalk and these people would
  • 00:11:25.130 --> 00:11:26.270
  • get so angry.
  • 00:11:26.270 --> 00:11:28.090
  • Do you ever feel like somebody
  • 00:11:28.090 --> 00:11:29.280
  • walking along thinks they found
  • 00:11:29.280 --> 00:11:31.130
  • a wallet and they got tricked?
  • 00:11:31.130 --> 00:11:32.240
  • They don't get angry or
  • 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.180
  • anything?
  • 00:11:33.180 --> 00:11:34.080
  • - Ray: No, they're absolutely
  • 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:34.290
  • thrilled, they get a free wallet
  • 00:11:34.290 --> 00:11:36.010
  • 'cause they can keep it.
  • 00:11:36.010 --> 00:11:36.290
  • This is our Ten Commandment
  • 00:11:36.290 --> 00:11:38.040
  • coin.
  • 00:11:38.040 --> 00:11:38.240
  • This is a coin with the Ten
  • 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.090
  • Commandments on one side and
  • 00:11:40.090 --> 00:11:41.150
  • the gospel on the other.
  • 00:11:41.150 --> 00:11:42.150
  • And it's great because it's got
  • 00:11:42.150 --> 00:11:44.100
  • perceived value when you give it
  • 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:46.200
  • some--when I ride my bike
  • 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.010
  • sometimes, I gotta exercise to
  • 00:11:48.010 --> 00:11:49.120
  • keep this body, obviously I need
  • 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.180
  • to.
  • 00:11:50.180 --> 00:11:51.110
  • - Bobby: Totally.
  • 00:11:51.110 --> 00:11:52.180
  • - Ray: I'll throw it on the
  • 00:11:52.180 --> 00:11:53.180
  • sidewalk and teenagers fight
  • 00:11:53.180 --> 00:11:55.090
  • over it 'cause it goes clang,
  • 00:11:55.090 --> 00:11:57.080
  • clang, clang.
  • 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:58.020
  • I say, "You can have that.
  • 00:11:58.020 --> 00:11:58.270
  • It's a gift." But we've got
  • 00:11:58.270 --> 00:11:59.230
  • other ones such as why does--
  • 00:11:59.230 --> 00:12:00.210
  • - Bobby: What's this one on
  • 00:12:00.210 --> 00:12:01.180
  • your--these two like this one
  • 00:12:01.180 --> 00:12:02.230
  • on your phone and there is--?
  • 00:12:02.230 --> 00:12:04.090
  • - Ray: Well, this here, this
  • 00:12:04.090 --> 00:12:06.010
  • here, well, I need a member of
  • 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:07.220
  • the audience to come up and look
  • 00:12:07.220 --> 00:12:09.180
  • at this one.
  • 00:12:09.180 --> 00:12:10.110
  • Do we have someone?
  • 00:12:10.110 --> 00:12:11.190
  • - Bobby: Do we have a
  • 00:12:11.190 --> 00:12:12.090
  • volunteer, someone from the
  • 00:12:12.090 --> 00:12:13.000
  • audience that can help us?
  • 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:13.190
  • - Ray: We just need--we need
  • 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:14.110
  • a victim.
  • 00:12:14.110 --> 00:12:16.290
  • I see their hand.
  • 00:12:16.290 --> 00:12:18.010
  • - Bobby: All right,
  • 00:12:18.010 --> 00:12:19.010
  • here they come.
  • 00:12:19.010 --> 00:12:19.270
  • here they come.
  • 00:12:19.270 --> 00:12:22.010
  • [a
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  • [aud
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  • [audie
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  • [audienc
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  • [audience
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  • [audience ap
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  • [audience appl
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  • [audience applau
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  • [audience applaudi
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  • [audience applauding
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  • - Ray: Oh, you stay there.
  • 00:12:25.040 --> 00:12:28.040
  • - Bobby: Face this way.
  • 00:12:28.040 --> 00:12:28.250
  • What's your--so, what's your
  • 00:12:28.250 --> 00:12:29.200
  • name?
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  • - Travis: Travis.
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  • - Bobby: Travis, okay, nice
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  • to meet you.
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  • What's your name?
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  • Just kidding.
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  • - Ray: Why do they pick two
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  • tall guys for me to stand in
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  • the middle of?
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  • - Bobby: Here, why don't you
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  • stand on that side.
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  • - Ray: I feel like a goalpost.
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  • - Bobby: Why don't you switch
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  • with Travis here?
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  • - Ray: Yeah, Travis, you go
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  • there, yeah, thank you.
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  • Okay, Travis, which looks longer
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  • to you, pink or blue?
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  • Sorry, we used to have this pink
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  • or blue.
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  • Orange or black?
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  • - Travis: That one, the orange.
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  • - Ray: Okay, so you swap them
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  • over and then black
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  • and the orange.
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  • It's an optical illusion,
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  • they're exactly the same size.
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  • And when people see that,
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  • they can't believe it.
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  • I mean it's just--it's an
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  • amazing optical illusions so you
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  • say, "You can keep that."
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  • And let's try something else.
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  • Travis, let's say--pretend
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  • you're a non-Christian and you
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  • think you're a good person.
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  • This is the personal lie
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  • detector.
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  • We have it for our ministry,
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  • it's a great ice breaker.
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  • It says, "Lie detector,
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  • are you a good person?"
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  • - Bobby: Just press yes.
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  • - Ray: Oh, sorry.
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  • - Bobby: Press yes.
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  • - Ray: Try again.
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  • Okay, well, try again.
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  • On the back it says, "Try
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  • again," so this says yes
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  • so go for the yes.
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  • You can do it.
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  • - Bobby: Come on, Travis,
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  • you can do this.
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  • Travis!
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  • - Ray: Yeah, it's stubborn.
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  • It's a stubborn sinner but
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  • it's a grace little ice breaker.
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  • There's a very powerful magnet
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  • in there.
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  • You just gotta watch it in case
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  • you just--it's very--it's very,
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  • very powerful so it repels on
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  • the back and attracts on the
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  • front so it will always default
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  • to the no.
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  • So, it makes people laugh and
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  • you say, "So, you do think
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  • you're a good person?"
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  • They say, "Yes."
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  • "Well, let's go through
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  • the Ten Commandments,"
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  • and you open up the
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  • Commandments and show that they
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  • need a Savior, okay?
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  • - Bobby: Great.
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  • What was your name again?
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  • Your name was Travis?
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  • - Travis: Yes, Travis, Forsyth.
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  • - Bobby: Where you from?
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  • - Travis: I'm from Riverside,
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  • California.
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  • - Bobby: Okay great, let's give
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  • Travis a hand.
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  • Thank you, sir.
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  • Thank you, sir.
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  • [audience applauding
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  • All right, you know, it'd be
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  • amazing if there was some
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  • miracle where somebody just did
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  • it and it went straight to yes.
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  • - Ray: Only Jesus could
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  • do that.
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  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's right.
  • 00:14:34.190 --> 00:14:35.140
  • - Ray: And then it wouldn't be
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  • a miracle, it'd be the truth.
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  • So, we have a sample pack of all
  • 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:38.240
  • the different tracts
  • 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:39.250
  • that people can get.
  • 00:14:39.250 --> 00:14:40.190
  • And we're here as a ministry,
  • 00:14:40.190 --> 00:14:42.050
  • Living Waters is here as a
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  • ministry to come alongside the
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  • church, not take the place of
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  • the church, but come alongside
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  • the church and equip them to
  • 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:48.220
  • Charles Spurgeon said,
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  • "Evangelism is an irksome task."
  • 00:14:51.180 --> 00:14:54.140
  • That word "irksome" means
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  • annoying and it really is.
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  • I'll be thrilled when the Lord
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  • comes 'cause I don't have to say
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  • to anybody else, "How lies
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  • do you think you've told?
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  • You think you're a good person?"
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  • You know, every little old lady
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  • looks like Goliath to me.
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  • I've got fears like everybody
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  • else, but the Bible says,
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  • "Perfect love casts out
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  • all fear."
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  • So, if you've got problems
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  • with fear when it comes
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  • to evangelism, don't pray for
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  • less fear, pray for more love
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  • because that's what's needed.
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  • - Bobby: You always say that
  • 00:15:23.070 --> 00:15:24.000
  • too in your videos because you
  • 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.070
  • can be pretty direct, and I feel
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  • like you get away with it
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  • for some reason.
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  • I mean, for me, I'm 6'3 and I'm
  • 00:15:29.290 --> 00:15:31.190
  • like, "You're a liar and a
  • 00:15:31.190 --> 00:15:33.190
  • thief, and a--" But you're able
  • 00:15:33.190 --> 00:15:35.270
  • to be like, "You're a liar, and
  • 00:15:35.270 --> 00:15:37.030
  • a thief, and an adulter."
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  • It's more like,
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  • "You're right, I am.
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  • You're right."
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  • - Ray: That's 'cause I'm 3'6".
  • 00:15:41.210 --> 00:15:44.150
  • - Bobby: And the accent.
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  • - Ray: And the accent really
  • 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.080
  • helps.
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  • - Bobby: So, one of the things
  • 00:15:47.060 --> 00:15:48.120
  • you do, one of the things you
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  • do, Ray Comfort, you have this
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  • video called
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  • "Christmas Gone Viral."
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  • Tell us a little bit about that.
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  • We're gonna see it here in just
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  • a bit.
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  • - Ray: Well, TBN asked me to do
  • 00:15:58.160 --> 00:15:59.080
  • a Christmas special and I
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  • thought, well, I could do
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  • a Donny and Marie Osbourne
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  • Christmas special where I sing
  • 00:16:03.160 --> 00:16:05.100
  • for an hour, but that would
  • 00:16:05.100 --> 00:16:06.150
  • bring tears to people's eyes.
  • 00:16:06.150 --> 00:16:08.000
  • And they request that I sing on
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  • a hill far away
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  • so I wouldn't do that.
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  • So, I looked into how many
  • 00:16:12.250 --> 00:16:14.200
  • people celebrate Christmas
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  • and I was amazed.
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  • A third of the world celebrate
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  • Christmas, that means over 2
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  • billion people and not just 2
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  • billion, is that 2.000 million
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  • celebrate the birth of Jesus.
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  • And as I begin the video I say,
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  • when Paul preached in Athens and
  • 00:16:28.280 --> 00:16:30.190
  • looked at their idolatry, he
  • 00:16:30.190 --> 00:16:32.150
  • didn't get up and preach against
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  • the idolatry to begin with.
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  • He quoted Greek poets
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  • of all things.
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  • Why would he do that?
  • 00:16:37.290 --> 00:16:39.000
  • It was because he wanted a
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  • springboard to relate
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  • to his hearers.
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  • And Christmas is the greatest
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  • springboard we could ever have,
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  • 2 billion people celebrating
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  • the birth of Jesus.
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  • So, I commissioned Christians
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  • around the world in different
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  • countries and said, "Would you
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  • take a camera, go on the streets
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  • and ask people what they think
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  • about Christmas, and ask them
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  • what they think it means, and
  • 00:16:57.010 --> 00:16:58.030
  • then share the gospel, the full
  • 00:16:58.030 --> 00:16:59.150
  • gospel, with them about how
  • 00:16:59.150 --> 00:17:01.070
  • Christ dying for our sins, born
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  • that no more that man die, born
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  • to raise the sons of earth, born
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  • to give them second birth"?
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  • And the result was just amazing
  • 00:17:07.110 --> 00:17:08.250
  • to hear all these different
  • 00:17:08.250 --> 00:17:09.240
  • accents come back from, you
  • 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.080
  • know, from France, Australia
  • 00:17:11.080 --> 00:17:13.140
  • where they talk funny, and--
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  • - Bobby: Yeah, it sounds
  • 00:17:14.260 --> 00:17:16.290
  • nothing like your accent.
  • 00:17:16.290 --> 00:17:17.230
  • - Ray: No, absolutely not.
  • 00:17:17.230 --> 00:17:18.250
  • Australians, they talk more like
  • 00:17:18.250 --> 00:17:19.250
  • this, more nasal.
  • 00:17:19.250 --> 00:17:20.290
  • But it was great to hear all the
  • 00:17:20.290 --> 00:17:21.290
  • different accents come back and
  • 00:17:21.290 --> 00:17:23.090
  • to see that every single person
  • 00:17:23.090 --> 00:17:25.100
  • is the same.
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  • Everyone has a fear of death,
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  • everyone wants to live, and when
  • 00:17:28.010 --> 00:17:29.230
  • they hear the true gospel that
  • 00:17:29.230 --> 00:17:31.080
  • Christ died for our sins,
  • 00:17:31.080 --> 00:17:33.090
  • defeated death, it was not
  • 00:17:33.090 --> 00:17:35.000
  • possible that death could hold
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  • him, it thrills their heart to
  • 00:17:36.130 --> 00:17:37.270
  • think that God could invade this
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  • earth and deal with their
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  • greatest enemy, death of self.
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  • - Bobby: Well, I'm excited to
  • 00:17:42.080 --> 00:17:44.050
  • see it.
  • 00:17:44.050 --> 00:17:44.290
  • Thank you, Ray, for putting this
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  • special together.
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  • It's called "Christmas Gone
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  • It's called "Christmas Gone
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  • [m
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  • [mus
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  • [music
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  • - Bob: My name is Bob
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  • - Bob: My name is Bob
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  • [m
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  • [music
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  • [music]
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  • - Ray: The Bible says when
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  • the Apostle Paul was in Athens,
  • 00:18:12.110 --> 00:18:14.050
  • his spirit was stirred
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  • because the whole city
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  • But instead of getting up
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  • and preaching against their
  • 00:18:19.050 --> 00:18:20.120
  • idolatry, he quoted Greek poets.
  • 00:18:20.120 --> 00:18:22.290
  • He said, "I passed a certain
  • 00:18:22.290 --> 00:18:24.020
  • inscription that said to the
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  • unknown God in him we live, and
  • 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:27.110
  • move, and have our being, and as
  • 00:18:27.110 --> 00:18:28.260
  • you're poet have said, we're
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  • also his offspring."
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  • Paul probably studied Greek
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  • literature at the feet of
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  • Gamaliel, the great teacher of
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  • the law.
  • 00:18:36.070 --> 00:18:37.120
  • But why did he quote Greek
  • 00:18:37.120 --> 00:18:38.210
  • poets?
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  • Well, he probably wanted to
  • 00:18:39.170 --> 00:18:40.230
  • relate to his hears.
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  • He probably wanted a springboard
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  • into the gospel.
  • 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.060
  • Did you know that one-third of
  • 00:18:45.060 --> 00:18:46.280
  • the world celebrates Christmas?
  • 00:18:46.280 --> 00:18:48.120
  • That is 2 billion people
  • 00:18:48.120 --> 00:18:50.210
  • celebrate the birth of
  • 00:18:50.210 --> 00:18:52.160
  • Jesus Christ.
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  • Now, there's a springboard for
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  • the gospel.
  • 00:18:55.040 --> 00:18:56.060
  • So, I asked Christian around the
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  • world to take a camera,
  • 00:18:57.210 --> 00:18:58.270
  • different countries, and ask
  • 00:18:58.270 --> 00:19:00.210
  • people what they thought of
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  • Christmas and from there
  • 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:03.070
  • springboard to the gospel to
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  • tell them that Jesus Christ has
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  • abolished death and brought life
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  • and a immortality to light
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  • through the gospel.
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  • - male: What is Christmas and
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  • what is it all about to you?
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  • - female: Well, I love
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  • Christmas personally, and I like
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  • buying presents for people like
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  • I'm Christmas shopping at the
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  • minute.
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  • - male: Would you mind if I
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  • test to see if you're a good
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  • person with a little test we
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  • have?
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  • - male: Please.
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  • - male: Are you a good person
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  • or would you say you're a good
  • 00:19:44.060 --> 00:19:45.010
  • person?
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  • - male: I'd like to think so,
  • 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.170
  • yeah.
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  • - female: I think I'm a good
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  • person.
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  • - male: You know why Christ was
  • 00:19:48.190 --> 00:19:49.110
  • born at all?
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  • - female: Christ--I don't
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  • really know why Christ was born.
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  • - male: Commandment number
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  • three says, don't take the name
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  • of your God in vain.
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  • Have you ever done that, have
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  • you ever said, "oh, my G-O-D" or
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  • something like that?
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  • - male: Before, yes, yes.
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  • - male: Before, you mean you've
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  • done it, yes?
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  • - male: Yes.
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  • - male: Have you ever done
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  • that?
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  • - female: Yeah, uh-huh.
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  • - male: You're guilty of that
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  • one?
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  • - female: I'm guilty of that
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  • one, yeah.
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  • - male: Would that be heaven or
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  • hell?
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  • - female: I think he'd look
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  • past that and hope I'd go
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  • to heaven.
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  • - male: What would you tell God
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  • on judgment day if that happens?
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  • - female: I'd say I was sorry
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  • and that I didn't know I was
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  • breaking the Ten Commandments.
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  • And that's--I don't know really
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  • know what else I'd say 'cause
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  • I've already done it.
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  • - male: Do you think it will
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  • work if you said sorry?
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  • - female: I don't know 'cause
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  • I've already broke them.
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  • - male: It's true, that's true.
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  • If you're a criminal and you
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  • appear before a judge--
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  • - female: When you can't just
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  • say sorry 'cause it doesn't
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  • excuse your crime.
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  • - male: You know how you said
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  • to me that you were a good
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  • person?
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  • - female: Yeah.
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  • - male: Okay and then I said if
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  • I'd ask you then would you make
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  • it to heaven, you would have
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  • said?
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  • - female: Yes.
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  • - male: That's putting your
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  • trust in yourself, right?
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  • So, you put your trust in the
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  • person who paid for your fine,
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  • which is Jesus wholeheartedly.
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  • Yeah, make sense?
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  • - female: Yeah.
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  • - male: So, when will it be the
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  • right time for a person to do
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  • that?
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  • - male: Well, anytime they can
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  • really, I suppose.
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  • really, I suppose.
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  • - Ray: There are many ways to
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  • use Christmas as a springboard
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  • for the gospel.
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  • This could be a mall in almost
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  • any country around the world.
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  • Watch what happens.
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  • Joyful, joyful,
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  • we adore You,
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  • God of glory,
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  • Lord of love;
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  • Hearts unfold
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  • like flowers before You,
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  • Opening to the sun above.
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  • Melt the clouds of sin
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  • and sadness;
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  • Drive the dark of
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  • doubt away;
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  • Giver of immortal gladness,
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  • Fill us with
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  • Fill us with
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  • - female: Hi everybody, we are
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  • in the city of Cannes with a
  • 00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:10.020
  • lovely lady whose name is Olga,
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  • and we are going to talk about
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  • Christmas.
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  • Do you celebrate Christmas?
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  • - Olga: Yeah, I'm celebrating
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  • deux Christmas Catholic, yeah,
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  • and Christian.
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  • - female: What is so special
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  • about Christmas?
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  • Why do we celebrate Christmas in
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  • the first place?
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  • - Olga: Because of some special
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  • spirit like for spirit it's
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  • like about some God like that.
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  • - female: So, in case if I'm
  • 00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:36.190
  • right and God judges you, will
  • 00:22:36.190 --> 00:22:39.060
  • he find your innocent or guilty?
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  • - Olga: Innocent.
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  • - female: Why, have you ever
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  • used God's name in vain?
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  • - Olga: Yeah.
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  • - female: But that's why we
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  • celebrate Christmas and Easter
  • 00:22:50.290 --> 00:22:52.140
  • because God so loved the world
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  • that he sent his own Son Jesus
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  • who came down and paid
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  • the punishment that you and I
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  • deserve.
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  • You broke God's law, Jesus paid
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  • for it and if you repent--
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  • "Repent" in the Bible is a
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  • military term which means turn
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  • 180 degrees.
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  • So, you ask God in your heart,
  • 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.070
  • not in some kind of temple,
  • 00:23:13.070 --> 00:23:14.170
  • to forgive you and then if you
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  • accept that Christ died for you,
  • 00:23:15.280 --> 00:23:18.170
  • then what Bible says, God
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  • forgives all of our sin no
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  • matter what kind of sin you
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  • committed in your life and gives
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  • you the gift of eternal life.
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  • What do you think about that
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  • story?
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  • Does it seems to be logical
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  • to you?
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  • - Olga: Yeah, it's logical.
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  • - female: Have you ever heard
  • 00:23:31.180 --> 00:23:32.200
  • the story of Jesus like that?
  • 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.130
  • - Olga: I heard some small part
  • 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:36.090
  • it's like, from one lady,
  • 00:23:37.090 --> 00:23:40.090
  • something heard from another
  • 00:23:40.090 --> 00:23:41.260
  • person, something heard but I'm
  • 00:23:41.260 --> 00:23:43.190
  • not thinking about it too much.
  • 00:23:43.190 --> 00:23:46.060
  • - female: Are you afraid to
  • 00:23:46.060 --> 00:23:47.070
  • die?
  • 00:23:47.070 --> 00:23:48.160
  • - Olga: Yeah, afraid, I afraid.
  • 00:23:52.050 --> 00:23:55.050
  • - male: What does Christmas
  • 00:23:55.050 --> 00:23:56.180
  • mean to you?
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  • - female: Christmas basically
  • 00:23:57.250 --> 00:23:59.150
  • means a time where Jesus
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  • was born.
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  • - male: Well, it means a lot,
  • 00:24:03.250 --> 00:24:05.060
  • it means being with your family.
  • 00:24:05.060 --> 00:24:06.150
  • - male: Having a great time
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  • with family members and family
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  • members.
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  • - male: Rice and beans,
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  • barbecue, corn bread.
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  • - male: Chicken, turkeys, and
  • 00:24:12.280 --> 00:24:14.290
  • Latin ham.
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  • - male: Eat, share food,
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  • share drink, make a nice cake,
  • 00:24:18.110 --> 00:24:20.060
  • black cake, get together,
  • 00:24:20.060 --> 00:24:22.090
  • drink, and get merry.
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  • - male: So far, so far, what
  • 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:25.180
  • has been the best gift that you
  • 00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:26.260
  • have ever received on Christmas?
  • 00:24:26.260 --> 00:24:28.270
  • - male: Well, the best is
  • 00:24:28.270 --> 00:24:31.040
  • the love of your mom
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  • and your family.
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  • - male: Would you--do you
  • 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:35.030
  • believe in God?
  • 00:24:35.030 --> 00:24:35.280
  • - male: I do.
  • 00:24:35.280 --> 00:24:37.000
  • - male: So, do you think you
  • 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.220
  • will go to heaven or
  • 00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:39.290
  • hell when you die?
  • 00:24:39.290 --> 00:24:40.290
  • - male: I'm not sure,
  • 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:42.020
  • only he knows that.
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  • - male: Have you taken
  • 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.170
  • something that doesn't belong
  • 00:24:44.170 --> 00:24:45.180
  • to you?
  • 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:46.170
  • - male: Not recently.
  • 00:24:46.170 --> 00:24:47.270
  • - male: Have you ever looked
  • 00:24:47.270 --> 00:24:48.180
  • with lust at a woman?
  • 00:24:48.180 --> 00:24:49.210
  • - male: Mmm-yeah.
  • 00:24:49.210 --> 00:24:51.040
  • - male: So, Francis, by your
  • 00:24:51.040 --> 00:24:53.160
  • own admission, you're a liar,
  • 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.150
  • thief, and an adulter at heart.
  • 00:24:54.150 --> 00:24:56.210
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:24:56.210 --> 00:24:58.020
  • - male: So, would that make you
  • 00:24:58.020 --> 00:24:59.190
  • innocent or guilty on judgment
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  • day?
  • 00:25:01.080 --> 00:25:02.130
  • - male: That would make me
  • 00:25:02.130 --> 00:25:03.220
  • guilty.
  • 00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:06.080
  • - male: Have you ever committed
  • 00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:07.100
  • adultery?
  • 00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:09.090
  • - male: Are you serious?
  • 00:25:09.090 --> 00:25:11.160
  • - male: I'm just asking you.
  • 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:12.220
  • - male: Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:15.140
  • - male: The Bible promises that
  • 00:25:15.140 --> 00:25:16.100
  • there is forgiveness and these
  • 00:25:16.100 --> 00:25:18.080
  • sins that you have committed
  • 00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:19.170
  • will not be held against you
  • 00:25:19.170 --> 00:25:20.160
  • will not be held against you
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • He shall reign,
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  • he shall reign,
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  • he shall reign forever.
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  • King of kings
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  • forever and ever.
  • 00:25:56.120 --> 00:25:59.010
  • And Lord of lords
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  • forever and ever.
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  • He shall reign
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  • forever, forever and ever.
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  • King of kings
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  • and Lord of lords.
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  • King of kings
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  • and Lord of lords.
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  • And he shall reign
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  • forever and ever.
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  • King of kings
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  • and Lord of lords,
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
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  • - male: Do you celebrate
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  • Christmas?
  • 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:02.240
  • - male: I do.
  • 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.120
  • - male: You do?
  • 00:27:03.120 --> 00:27:03.280
  • - male: I do.
  • 00:27:03.280 --> 00:27:04.130
  • - male: Yeah, what's Christmas
  • 00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:05.050
  • mean to you?
  • 00:27:05.050 --> 00:27:07.110
  • - male: Presents.
  • 00:27:07.110 --> 00:27:08.070
  • - male: Presents, yeah?
  • 00:27:08.070 --> 00:27:09.110
  • - male: Get involved with
  • 00:27:09.110 --> 00:27:10.230
  • the family, have a good fade.
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  • - male: It's the birth
  • 00:27:12.290 --> 00:27:15.290
  • of Jesus.
  • 00:27:15.290 --> 00:27:16.250
  • - male: Yeah?
  • 00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:17.120
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:18.050
  • - male: Do you know why
  • 00:27:18.050 --> 00:27:18.240
  • he came into the world?
  • 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.230
  • - male: No.
  • 00:27:19.230 --> 00:27:21.030
  • - male: No idea?
  • 00:27:21.030 --> 00:27:21.290
  • - male: No.
  • 00:27:21.290 --> 00:27:22.160
  • - male: What's the original
  • 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.080
  • meaning of Christmas?
  • 00:27:23.080 --> 00:27:24.000
  • Do you ever celebrate that?
  • 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:25.000
  • - male: Not too often these
  • 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.110
  • days, but yeah.
  • 00:27:26.110 --> 00:27:27.180
  • - male: Yeah, there was a time?
  • 00:27:27.180 --> 00:27:28.210
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:29.150
  • - male: Do you know why he came
  • 00:27:29.150 --> 00:27:30.110
  • at all?
  • 00:27:30.110 --> 00:27:32.170
  • No idea?
  • 00:27:32.170 --> 00:27:33.080
  • - male: No.
  • 00:27:33.080 --> 00:27:33.260
  • - male: He came to save
  • 00:27:33.260 --> 00:27:34.140
  • sinners.
  • 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:35.060
  • - male: Oh, okay.
  • 00:27:35.060 --> 00:27:36.010
  • - male: Are you a sinner
  • 00:27:36.010 --> 00:27:36.280
  • or a good person?
  • 00:27:36.280 --> 00:27:37.250
  • - male: I'm a good person.
  • 00:27:37.250 --> 00:27:38.200
  • - male: Real simple question,
  • 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:39.130
  • have you ever stolen anything?
  • 00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:40.150
  • - male: No.
  • 00:27:40.150 --> 00:27:41.130
  • - male: No?
  • 00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:42.030
  • - male: No.
  • 00:27:42.030 --> 00:27:42.210
  • - male: You're sure you're not
  • 00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:43.130
  • lying about that?
  • 00:27:43.130 --> 00:27:43.280
  • - male: I'm not lying about
  • 00:27:43.280 --> 00:27:44.180
  • that.
  • 00:27:44.180 --> 00:27:45.040
  • - male: You ever downloaded
  • 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:45.240
  • illegal music?
  • 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:46.160
  • - male: Ooh, he's going on
  • 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.020
  • that one.
  • 00:27:48.020 --> 00:27:48.240
  • - male: Got you on that one,
  • 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:49.220
  • got you on a technicality.
  • 00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:50.270
  • - male: Or downloaded
  • 00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:51.170
  • illegal music?
  • 00:27:51.170 --> 00:27:52.130
  • - male: If that's considered
  • 00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:53.280
  • stealing then, yeah.
  • 00:27:53.280 --> 00:27:54.290
  • - male: Yeah, and if you steal
  • 00:27:54.290 --> 00:27:55.240
  • what would you be called?
  • 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.010
  • - male: Stealer.
  • 00:27:57.010 --> 00:27:58.140
  • - male: Yeah, or a thief.
  • 00:27:58.140 --> 00:27:59.110
  • - male: Have you ever used
  • 00:27:59.110 --> 00:28:00.030
  • God's name in vain?
  • 00:28:00.030 --> 00:28:01.140
  • - male: Like oh my--?
  • 00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:02.170
  • - male: Yup.
  • 00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:03.120
  • - male: I may have said that.
  • 00:28:03.120 --> 00:28:04.050
  • - male: You may have said that,
  • 00:28:04.050 --> 00:28:04.290
  • so a yes?
  • 00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:06.020
  • - male: Yes.
  • 00:28:06.020 --> 00:28:06.240
  • - male: Yeah, that one's
  • 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:07.140
  • blaspheme.
  • 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:08.030
  • - male: Guilty, being guilty of
  • 00:28:08.030 --> 00:28:09.030
  • breaking the law.
  • 00:28:09.030 --> 00:28:10.110
  • - male: Guilty, yeah.
  • 00:28:10.110 --> 00:28:11.150
  • - male: You'd be guilty, right.
  • 00:28:11.150 --> 00:28:12.080
  • Yeah, heaven or hell?
  • 00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:13.010
  • - male: Hell.
  • 00:28:13.010 --> 00:28:14.250
  • - male: Hell.
  • 00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:15.200
  • - male: I say I'd have to be
  • 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.160
  • got on that one.
  • 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.080
  • - male: Guilty, yeah.
  • 00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:19.030
  • Heaven or hell?
  • 00:28:19.030 --> 00:28:19.230
  • - male: Hell.
  • 00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:20.260
  • - male: Hell, yeah, does it
  • 00:28:20.260 --> 00:28:22.020
  • concern you?
  • 00:28:22.020 --> 00:28:22.290
  • - male: Yeah, a little bit.
  • 00:28:22.290 --> 00:28:24.160
  • - male: Okay, so that's why
  • 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.110
  • 2.000 years ago, we celebrate it
  • 00:28:25.110 --> 00:28:26.240
  • as Christmas but God sent Jesus.
  • 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.240
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.160
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.240
  • - male: You believe that?
  • 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.010
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:28:33.010 --> 00:28:33.250
  • - male: You weren't sure about
  • 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.100
  • heaven or hell before.
  • 00:28:35.100 --> 00:28:36.110
  • When are you gonna put your
  • 00:28:36.110 --> 00:28:38.000
  • trust in Christ?
  • 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.030
  • - male: Today.
  • 00:28:39.030 --> 00:28:39.260
  • - male: Today?
  • 00:28:39.260 --> 00:28:40.170
  • Yeah, you serious?
  • 00:28:40.170 --> 00:28:41.110
  • - male: That's why we celebrate
  • 00:28:41.110 --> 00:28:42.230
  • Christmas, he came into the
  • 00:28:42.230 --> 00:28:43.250
  • world but the reason was that he
  • 00:28:43.250 --> 00:28:45.030
  • saw your penalty, you can't pay
  • 00:28:45.030 --> 00:28:46.190
  • it so he said, "I'm paying it
  • 00:28:46.190 --> 00:28:48.070
  • for you," and he died on the
  • 00:28:48.070 --> 00:28:49.260
  • cross with his life's blood
  • 00:28:49.260 --> 00:28:50.260
  • being shed, that was the
  • 00:28:50.260 --> 00:28:52.040
  • penalty.
  • 00:28:52.040 --> 00:28:52.230
  • And he said, "It is finished,"
  • 00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:53.230
  • on the cross so that's why he
  • 00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:54.250
  • died on the cross and then three
  • 00:28:54.250 --> 00:28:56.020
  • days later, rose again.
  • 00:28:56.020 --> 00:28:56.260
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:58.220
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:28:58.220 --> 00:28:59.160
  • - male: Yeah, you ever heard
  • 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:00.230
  • this before?
  • 00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:01.220
  • - male: A little bit, not
  • 00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:03.150
  • really.
  • 00:29:03.150 --> 00:29:04.070
  • - male: A little bit, not
  • 00:29:04.070 --> 00:29:04.260
  • really.
  • 00:29:04.260 --> 00:29:05.120
  • - male: I heard about it now.
  • 00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:06.040
  • - male: So, before I said to
  • 00:29:06.040 --> 00:29:07.060
  • you if you were to die in your
  • 00:29:07.060 --> 00:29:08.060
  • sins, which we don't know when
  • 00:29:08.060 --> 00:29:09.120
  • that's gonna happen, 150.000
  • 00:29:09.120 --> 00:29:10.200
  • people die every day and I don't
  • 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.100
  • want that to happen.
  • 00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:13.200
  • If you did, God will give you
  • 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.150
  • justice but if you repent of all
  • 00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:17.020
  • sin, you get right with God,
  • 00:29:17.020 --> 00:29:18.100
  • put your trust in him,
  • 00:29:18.100 --> 00:29:19.180
  • you'll live forever.
  • 00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:21.060
  • So, when are you gonna do that?
  • 00:29:21.060 --> 00:29:22.080
  • - male: Right now.
  • 00:29:22.080 --> 00:29:23.290
  • - male: Right now?
  • 00:29:23.290 --> 00:29:24.270
  • - male: Right now?
  • 00:29:24.270 --> 00:29:28.060
  • [m
  • 00:29:28.060 --> 00:29:28.070
  • [mus
  • 00:29:28.070 --> 00:29:28.080
  • [music
  • 00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:28.090
  • - Ray: Here I am at the local
  • 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:35.280
  • college and we have a Gideon
  • 00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:37.180
  • giving out New Testaments.
  • 00:29:39.210 --> 00:29:42.210
  • God bless the Gideons,
  • 00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:45.150
  • look at these, New Testaments.
  • 00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:49.080
  • I used to be a Gideon for
  • 00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:50.290
  • 7 years until I got kicked out.
  • 00:29:50.290 --> 00:29:52.290
  • I became a pastor and they don't
  • 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:54.050
  • allow pastors.
  • 00:29:54.050 --> 00:29:55.130
  • It's a lay organization but
  • 00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:57.020
  • what a wonderful thing.
  • 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.200
  • - Ray: Do you celebrate
  • 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.180
  • Christmas?
  • 00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:03.130
  • - male: Yes, we do.
  • 00:30:03.130 --> 00:30:04.060
  • - Ray: Do you believe
  • 00:30:04.060 --> 00:30:05.020
  • the Christmas story?
  • 00:30:05.020 --> 00:30:06.210
  • - male: Um, more or less.
  • 00:30:06.210 --> 00:30:09.130
  • - Ray: We're talking about a
  • 00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:10.110
  • star moving across the sky to
  • 00:30:10.110 --> 00:30:11.270
  • show shepherds where Jesus was
  • 00:30:11.270 --> 00:30:13.160
  • born, you believe that?
  • 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.210
  • - male: I used to when I was
  • 00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:16.230
  • little.
  • 00:30:16.230 --> 00:30:17.160
  • - male: No I don't.
  • 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.260
  • - Ray: Jonah and the whale?
  • 00:30:18.260 --> 00:30:19.240
  • - male: No, I don't.
  • 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:20.190
  • - Ray: You really believe a
  • 00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:22.040
  • star moved at night across the
  • 00:30:22.040 --> 00:30:24.020
  • sky and showed the shepherds
  • 00:30:24.020 --> 00:30:25.200
  • where Jesus was born?
  • 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.090
  • - female: Yes, I do.
  • 00:30:27.090 --> 00:30:28.090
  • - Ray: But isn't that like
  • 00:30:28.090 --> 00:30:29.100
  • a fairytale?
  • 00:30:29.100 --> 00:30:30.130
  • - female: It's not a fairytale
  • 00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:31.110
  • 'cause God said it happened so
  • 00:30:31.110 --> 00:30:32.070
  • it happened.
  • 00:30:32.070 --> 00:30:33.080
  • - Ray: And you believe Noah's
  • 00:30:33.080 --> 00:30:33.290
  • ark that Noah put all the
  • 00:30:33.290 --> 00:30:35.060
  • animals in the ark?
  • 00:30:35.060 --> 00:30:36.170
  • - female: Yup.
  • 00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:37.120
  • - Ray: And Jonah was swallowed
  • 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:38.040
  • by a big fish, a whale?
  • 00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:39.130
  • - female: A hundred percent.
  • 00:30:39.130 --> 00:30:40.170
  • - male: Again, great writers,
  • 00:30:40.170 --> 00:30:41.180
  • I mean it's a great fairytale
  • 00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:43.000
  • but that's exactly what it is.
  • 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.110
  • - Ray: Listen to atheist
  • 00:30:44.110 --> 00:30:46.020
  • Penn Jillette's frustration over
  • 00:30:46.020 --> 00:30:47.190
  • the fact that intelligent people
  • 00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:49.090
  • believe what he sees as silly
  • 00:30:49.090 --> 00:30:50.230
  • Bible stories.
  • 00:30:51.050 --> 00:30:54.050
  • - Penn Jillette: So, when
  • 00:30:54.050 --> 00:30:54.280
  • someone says they believe in the
  • 00:30:54.280 --> 00:30:56.190
  • Word of God literally, I go back
  • 00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:58.290
  • and think about Genesis, about
  • 00:30:58.290 --> 00:31:01.090
  • Noah and the flood killing
  • 00:31:01.090 --> 00:31:02.250
  • everybody?
  • 00:31:02.250 --> 00:31:04.190
  • God that loves us kills
  • 00:31:04.190 --> 00:31:06.040
  • everybody and he wants to get
  • 00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:08.100
  • two of every species and seven
  • 00:31:08.100 --> 00:31:10.120
  • of the ones that are clean on to
  • 00:31:10.120 --> 00:31:12.100
  • a boat that floats for that
  • 00:31:12.100 --> 00:31:13.270
  • amount of time?
  • 00:31:13.270 --> 00:31:14.270
  • And I just go, really?
  • 00:31:14.270 --> 00:31:17.090
  • Because you don't act that way.
  • 00:31:17.090 --> 00:31:18.280
  • You know how to use a computer,
  • 00:31:18.280 --> 00:31:20.200
  • really?
  • 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.010
  • What do you mean when you
  • 00:31:22.010 --> 00:31:23.020
  • say that?
  • 00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:24.000
  • And no one's ever answered me.
  • 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.150
  • There's a code going on that
  • 00:31:26.150 --> 00:31:28.200
  • I need the Rosetta Stone.
  • 00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.100
  • I need someone
  • 00:31:30.100 --> 00:31:31.150
  • - Ray: In 2016
  • 00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:34.170
  • after interviewing Professor
  • 00:31:34.170 --> 00:31:35.160
  • to do just that,
  • 00:31:37.270 --> 00:31:39.080
  • to sit down and talk.
  • 00:31:39.080 --> 00:31:41.000
  • - Ray: Penn, why don't you come
  • 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:41.270
  • and talk to me?
  • 00:31:41.270 --> 00:31:44.110
  • - male: No, no, he's here for
  • 00:31:44.110 --> 00:31:45.110
  • the--he's here to protect me.
  • 00:31:45.110 --> 00:31:47.160
  • - Ray: You are?
  • 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.120
  • - male: That's right.
  • 00:31:48.120 --> 00:31:49.150
  • - Ray: Later that evening, we
  • 00:31:49.150 --> 00:31:50.170
  • did get to talk in depth about
  • 00:31:50.170 --> 00:31:52.070
  • the things of God, but during
  • 00:31:52.070 --> 00:31:53.250
  • that time, I didn't specifically
  • 00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:55.210
  • address the code
  • 00:31:55.210 --> 00:31:57.060
  • of which he spoke.
  • 00:31:57.060 --> 00:31:59.020
  • So, here it is now, here is why
  • 00:31:59.020 --> 00:32:01.090
  • intelligent people believe those
  • 00:32:01.090 --> 00:32:02.250
  • embarrassingly childish Bible
  • 00:32:02.250 --> 00:32:04.100
  • Many years ago,
  • 00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:07.280
  • I ran a kids' club.
  • 00:32:07.280 --> 00:32:09.130
  • At the end of the club, I would
  • 00:32:09.130 --> 00:32:10.130
  • One day I stood back and looked
  • 00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:13.280
  • at the line and noticed that the
  • 00:32:13.280 --> 00:32:15.090
  • greedy kids had pushed their way
  • 00:32:15.090 --> 00:32:16.280
  • to the front and the quiet
  • 00:32:16.280 --> 00:32:18.070
  • humble ones had been relegated
  • 00:32:18.070 --> 00:32:19.290
  • to the back.
  • 00:32:19.290 --> 00:32:21.070
  • It was so unfair
  • 00:32:21.070 --> 00:32:23.140
  • so I had an idea.
  • 00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:24.230
  • I turned the line around 180
  • 00:32:24.230 --> 00:32:27.160
  • degrees so that those who were
  • 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.230
  • greedy were now at the back.
  • 00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:30.120
  • Then I took great delight in
  • 00:32:30.120 --> 00:32:32.080
  • giving that candy to the quiet
  • 00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:34.040
  • humble ones first,
  • 00:32:34.040 --> 00:32:35.280
  • much to the disgust of those
  • 00:32:35.280 --> 00:32:37.200
  • kids who were now at the back.
  • 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.260
  • In this world where the arrogant
  • 00:32:39.260 --> 00:32:41.280
  • and powerful get to stomp
  • 00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:43.180
  • on the struggling poor,
  • 00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:45.110
  • God has turned the line around.
  • 00:32:45.110 --> 00:32:47.210
  • The Bible says, "Has God not
  • 00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:49.250
  • chosen the poor of this world to
  • 00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:51.190
  • be rich in faith and heirs of
  • 00:32:51.190 --> 00:32:53.100
  • the kingdom which he promised
  • 00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:54.190
  • to those that love him?"
  • 00:32:54.190 --> 00:32:57.040
  • And here is the amazing way
  • 00:32:57.040 --> 00:32:58.060
  • in which he did it.
  • 00:32:58.060 --> 00:33:00.080
  • He filled the Bible with
  • 00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:01.120
  • childish sounding intellectually
  • 00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:03.000
  • offensive stories such as
  • 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.060
  • Noah and the Ark, Jonah and the
  • 00:33:05.060 --> 00:33:07.090
  • Whale, and many others including
  • 00:33:07.090 --> 00:33:09.090
  • the star of Bethlehem
  • 00:33:09.090 --> 00:33:10.230
  • leading shepherds to baby Jesus
  • 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:12.270
  • in a manger.
  • 00:33:12.270 --> 00:33:14.160
  • God has, as Jesus said, hidden
  • 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.060
  • these things from the wise and
  • 00:33:17.060 --> 00:33:19.230
  • prudent and revealed them to
  • 00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:21.180
  • babes choosing foolish things to
  • 00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:24.070
  • confound the wise.
  • 00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:25.170
  • And as the Bible says, he takes
  • 00:33:25.170 --> 00:33:27.070
  • the wise in their own
  • 00:33:27.070 --> 00:33:28.090
  • craftiness.
  • 00:33:30.140 --> 00:33:33.140
  • - Ray: It's difficult,
  • 00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:34.060
  • isn't it?
  • 00:33:34.060 --> 00:33:34.250
  • - male: Yeah.
  • 00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:35.150
  • - Ray: You know what it is?
  • 00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:36.070
  • It's humbling to say you do.
  • 00:33:36.070 --> 00:33:37.250
  • If you do then you're like
  • 00:33:37.250 --> 00:33:39.130
  • believing in--you truly believe
  • 00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:41.140
  • in fairytales like that?
  • 00:33:41.140 --> 00:33:43.090
  • The world laughs at you.
  • 00:33:43.090 --> 00:33:44.010
  • They mock you.
  • 00:33:44.010 --> 00:33:45.040
  • You know why they mock you?
  • 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:46.160
  • - male: Um?
  • 00:33:46.210 --> 00:33:49.210
  • - Ray: 'Cause those stories are
  • 00:33:49.210 --> 00:33:50.220
  • intellectually offensive.
  • 00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.190
  • Anyone with any intellectual
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  • dignity would never stoop to
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  • believe such silly childish
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  • stories.
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  • - male: It makes sense,
  • 00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:01.120
  • absolutely.
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  • - Ray: And that's what God has
  • 00:34:02.050 --> 00:34:03.060
  • done deliberately.
  • 00:34:03.060 --> 00:34:04.080
  • He's taken childish sounding
  • 00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:05.090
  • stories, put them in a book so
  • 00:34:05.090 --> 00:34:08.040
  • that only those that believe
  • 00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:09.190
  • them would be the humble of
  • 00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.020
  • heart.
  • 00:34:11.020 --> 00:34:12.020
  • Jesus said, unless you become
  • 00:34:12.020 --> 00:34:13.190
  • as little children, you'll not
  • 00:34:13.190 --> 00:34:14.280
  • enter the kingdom of God.
  • 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.030
  • So, anyone with any pride would
  • 00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:17.100
  • never stoop to believe such
  • 00:34:17.100 --> 00:34:19.000
  • silly Bible stories and that's
  • 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.160
  • the wisdom of God.
  • 00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:21.150
  • He resists the proud,
  • 00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:22.110
  • gives grace to the humble.
  • 00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:23.230
  • He set the door of salvation,
  • 00:34:23.230 --> 00:34:25.000
  • very, very low so that only
  • 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.260
  • the humble can enter.
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  • - Ray: You know, God promised
  • 00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:29.260
  • to destroy death way back in
  • 00:34:29.260 --> 00:34:31.020
  • Genesis chapter 3 and he did so
  • 00:34:31.020 --> 00:34:32.270
  • through Jesus?
  • 00:34:32.270 --> 00:34:34.130
  • Jesus rose from the dead, cried
  • 00:34:34.130 --> 00:34:35.220
  • out, "It is finished,"
  • 00:34:35.220 --> 00:34:37.150
  • after he suffered for the sin
  • 00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:38.150
  • of the world.
  • 00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:39.040
  • Now God can atone for your sins
  • 00:34:39.040 --> 00:34:40.270
  • through the death of Christ.
  • 00:34:40.270 --> 00:34:42.030
  • It's all paid for.
  • 00:34:42.030 --> 00:34:43.180
  • You don't need to do anything.
  • 00:34:43.180 --> 00:34:44.210
  • It's a free gift of God.
  • 00:34:44.210 --> 00:34:46.070
  • Eternal life is a free gift of
  • 00:34:46.070 --> 00:34:48.030
  • God through trusting in Jesus.
  • 00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:49.250
  • Is this making sense to you?
  • 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.000
  • - male: What you're saying is
  • 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.190
  • making sense, as far as whether
  • 00:34:55.170 --> 00:34:58.170
  • or not I'm going to adopt your
  • 00:34:58.170 --> 00:35:00.020
  • teachings--
  • 00:35:00.020 --> 00:35:02.270
  • - Ray: Please think about it
  • 00:35:02.270 --> 00:35:04.040
  • 'cause I care about you and you
  • 00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:05.110
  • may not think that, but I do.
  • 00:35:05.110 --> 00:35:07.040
  • That's my only motive
  • 00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:08.130
  • is your eternal salvation.
  • 00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:10.030
  • I don't want anyone to end up
  • 00:35:10.030 --> 00:35:11.060
  • in hell.
  • 00:35:11.060 --> 00:35:11.270
  • - Ray: I'm gonna ask you a
  • 00:35:11.270 --> 00:35:12.170
  • question.
  • 00:35:12.170 --> 00:35:13.010
  • I think I know the answer.
  • 00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:14.080
  • Do you have a Bible at home?
  • 00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:15.180
  • - Chris: Yes.
  • 00:35:15.180 --> 00:35:16.060
  • - Ray: You do?
  • 00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:17.130
  • I was gonna say you don't.
  • 00:35:17.130 --> 00:35:18.190
  • When'd you last read it, Chris?
  • 00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:19.270
  • - Chris: Actually last week,
  • 00:35:19.270 --> 00:35:21.270
  • last Thursday.
  • 00:35:21.270 --> 00:35:22.220
  • - Ray: What did you read?
  • 00:35:22.220 --> 00:35:24.130
  • - Chris: I was reading--well,
  • 00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:25.150
  • this man at school was
  • 00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:26.140
  • this man at school was
  • 00:35:26.140 --> 00:35:29.180
  • [m
  • 00:35:29.180 --> 00:35:29.190
  • [mus
  • 00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:29.200
  • [music
  • 00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:29.210
  • - Chris: I told my boyfriend
  • 00:35:31.210 --> 00:35:34.210
  • about it and there's like a page
  • 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:37.120
  • where it talks about how it can
  • 00:35:37.120 --> 00:35:38.270
  • help someone like when they're
  • 00:35:38.270 --> 00:35:40.020
  • stressed or like it gives you
  • 00:35:40.020 --> 00:35:41.110
  • like a section of like
  • 00:35:41.110 --> 00:35:42.240
  • depression and stuff.
  • 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:44.080
  • And it was just out of my
  • 00:35:44.080 --> 00:35:45.170
  • curiosity.
  • 00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:46.180
  • - Ray: It was a Gideon Bible
  • 00:35:46.180 --> 00:35:47.110
  • that you had, a little Gideon
  • 00:35:47.110 --> 00:35:48.150
  • Bible, a New Testament.
  • 00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.010
  • Now, do you get depressed?
  • 00:35:50.010 --> 00:35:52.020
  • - Chris: Yes.
  • 00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:53.220
  • - Ray: You do get depressed?
  • 00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:54.150
  • Now, you're gonna think about
  • 00:35:54.150 --> 00:35:55.120
  • what we talked about today?
  • 00:35:55.120 --> 00:35:56.250
  • - Chris: Yes.
  • 00:35:56.250 --> 00:35:57.270
  • - Ray: Keep reading that Bible,
  • 00:35:57.270 --> 00:35:59.130
  • all right?
  • 00:35:59.130 --> 00:36:00.110
  • - Chris: Okay.
  • 00:36:00.110 --> 00:36:01.080
  • - Ray: Nice to talk to you,
  • 00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:02.050
  • Chris.
  • 00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:03.020
  • - Chris: You too.
  • 00:36:03.020 --> 00:36:03.290
  • - Ray: Okay, so you gonna
  • 00:36:03.290 --> 00:36:04.280
  • think about it?
  • 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:05.210
  • - male: Yes, I will, actually.
  • 00:36:05.210 --> 00:36:07.120
  • And I do appreciate you coming
  • 00:36:07.120 --> 00:36:08.180
  • over here and talking to me
  • 00:36:08.180 --> 00:36:09.200
  • about this.
  • 00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:10.140
  • - Ray: What's your real name?
  • 00:36:10.140 --> 00:36:12.100
  • - Marcus: Marcus.
  • 00:36:12.100 --> 00:36:13.010
  • - Ray: That's a great name.
  • 00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:14.110
  • Nice to meet you, Marcus, and
  • 00:36:14.110 --> 00:36:15.200
  • I hope you'll think about this
  • 00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:17.020
  • because there's nothing more
  • 00:36:17.020 --> 00:36:18.070
  • important then where you'll
  • 00:36:18.070 --> 00:36:19.020
  • spend eternity, okay?
  • 00:36:19.020 --> 00:36:20.250
  • - Marcus: Thank you.
  • 00:36:20.250 --> 00:36:23.180
  • - Ray: And he rose from the
  • 00:36:23.180 --> 00:36:24.080
  • dead and defeated death and what
  • 00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:25.120
  • you have to do to have your case
  • 00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:26.220
  • dismissed to walk out of the
  • 00:36:26.220 --> 00:36:28.110
  • courtroom, to escape the
  • 00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:30.030
  • judgment of God and damnation,
  • 00:36:30.030 --> 00:36:32.000
  • is repent and trust in Christ.
  • 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.060
  • Would you think you'll do that?
  • 00:36:34.060 --> 00:36:36.070
  • - male: I'm not sure.
  • 00:36:36.070 --> 00:36:38.000
  • - Ray: When are you gonna die?
  • 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.250
  • - male: I don't know.
  • 00:36:39.250 --> 00:36:40.260
  • - Ray: So it's pretty urgent,
  • 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:41.280
  • isn't it?
  • 00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:42.150
  • I mean, you better get right
  • 00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:43.060
  • with God.
  • 00:36:43.060 --> 00:36:43.250
  • You don't want to end up in
  • 00:36:43.250 --> 00:36:44.240
  • hell.
  • 00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:45.140
  • The Bible says, "Today if you
  • 00:36:45.140 --> 00:36:46.080
  • hear his voice, don't harden
  • 00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:47.070
  • your hearts," today is the day
  • 00:36:47.070 --> 00:36:48.120
  • of salvation, now is the time of
  • 00:36:48.120 --> 00:36:49.240
  • salvation, so, you gonna think
  • 00:36:49.240 --> 00:36:52.010
  • about this, Chris?
  • 00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:53.100
  • - Chris: Yes, I am.
  • 00:36:53.100 --> 00:36:54.210
  • - Ray: Do you have a Bible at
  • 00:36:54.210 --> 00:36:55.150
  • home?
  • 00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:56.170
  • - Chris: No.
  • 00:36:56.170 --> 00:36:57.120
  • - Ray: You don't?
  • 00:36:57.120 --> 00:36:58.190
  • Well, you better give me your
  • 00:36:58.190 --> 00:36:59.130
  • address, I'll send you a
  • 00:36:59.130 --> 00:37:00.090
  • Christmas present of a Bible.
  • 00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:01.290
  • - Chris: That's awesome.
  • 00:37:01.290 --> 00:37:03.290
  • O holy night, the stars
  • 00:37:04.190 --> 00:37:07.190
  • are brightly shining.
  • 00:37:08.110 --> 00:37:11.110
  • It is the night of
  • 00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:14.010
  • Long lay the world in sin
  • 00:37:19.180 --> 00:37:22.180
  • and error pining,
  • 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.000
  • Till He appeared and
  • 00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:29.130
  • A thrill of hope,
  • 00:37:35.170 --> 00:37:38.170
  • the weary soul rejoices.
  • 00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:42.130
  • For yonder breaks a new
  • 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.000
  • and glorious morn.
  • 00:37:47.010 --> 00:37:50.010
  • and glorious morn.
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  • [a
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  • [aud
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  • [audie
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  • [audienc
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  • [audience
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  • [audience ap
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  • [audience appl
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  • [audience applau
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  • [audience applaudi
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  • [audience applauding
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  • - Bobby: Thank you
  • 00:37:59.130 --> 00:38:02.150
  • for joining us today.
  • 00:38:02.150 --> 00:38:03.130
  • I'm Bobby Schuller and I'm here
  • 00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:04.170
  • with Ray Comfort, a worldwide
  • 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:07.110
  • evangelist who has, I think,
  • 00:38:07.110 --> 00:38:09.030
  • reached, my guess is hundreds
  • 00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:10.200
  • of thousands if not millions
  • 00:38:10.200 --> 00:38:11.180
  • of lives around the world
  • 00:38:11.180 --> 00:38:12.160
  • with the gospel.
  • 00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:14.070
  • And it's such a joy to be
  • 00:38:14.070 --> 00:38:15.020
  • here with you, Ray Comfort,
  • 00:38:15.020 --> 00:38:16.180
  • here on Christmas.
  • 00:38:16.180 --> 00:38:17.180
  • was listening to that, I almost
  • 00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:23.080
  • felt anxious watching you do
  • 00:38:23.080 --> 00:38:26.060
  • that because for me, you know,
  • 00:38:26.060 --> 00:38:27.260
  • as a Christian, I think I need
  • 00:38:27.260 --> 00:38:29.110
  • to be sharing the gospel.
  • 00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:30.120
  • I feel challenged myself.
  • 00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:31.250
  • But also living here in
  • 00:38:31.250 --> 00:38:33.070
  • Orange County in L.A.
  • 00:38:33.070 --> 00:38:34.100
  • where so much--and I know this
  • 00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:36.290
  • is true everywhere but you know
  • 00:38:36.290 --> 00:38:38.120
  • especially here, there's so much
  • 00:38:38.120 --> 00:38:39.220
  • weight on you to fit in, to
  • 00:38:39.220 --> 00:38:41.230
  • be--to do well, to be
  • 00:38:41.230 --> 00:38:43.170
  • attractive, to be popular.
  • 00:38:43.170 --> 00:38:45.050
  • These are not Christian values
  • 00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:46.220
  • at all, but it's so seductive
  • 00:38:46.220 --> 00:38:48.090
  • even for believers that you
  • 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:50.110
  • very often don't want
  • 00:38:50.110 --> 00:38:51.110
  • to be offensive.
  • 00:38:51.110 --> 00:38:52.070
  • You don't want to hurt people's
  • 00:38:52.070 --> 00:38:53.250
  • feelings.
  • 00:38:53.250 --> 00:38:54.170
  • You don't want to--and yet I see
  • 00:38:54.170 --> 00:38:56.190
  • that for you, you care and love
  • 00:38:56.190 --> 00:38:59.140
  • people so much that you're not
  • 00:38:59.140 --> 00:39:02.100
  • gonna let those things prohibit
  • 00:39:02.100 --> 00:39:03.080
  • you.
  • 00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:04.040
  • - Ray: Yeah, I've gotta think
  • 00:39:04.040 --> 00:39:04.280
  • I think about them more than
  • 00:39:07.080 --> 00:39:08.160
  • myself because the most
  • 00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:10.060
  • offensive thing I could ever do
  • 00:39:10.060 --> 00:39:11.210
  • for them is let me go to hell.
  • 00:39:11.210 --> 00:39:13.020
  • And if I love them, I've gotta
  • 00:39:13.020 --> 00:39:14.270
  • speak the truth in love.
  • 00:39:14.270 --> 00:39:16.060
  • It's like if I said to you,
  • 00:39:16.060 --> 00:39:18.010
  • Bobby, I want you to dive into a
  • 00:39:18.010 --> 00:39:19.070
  • dead in 3 minutes, it's so cold.
  • 00:39:21.180 --> 00:39:23.100
  • Don't ever do that.
  • 00:39:23.100 --> 00:39:24.080
  • I say, there's a 4-year-old boy
  • 00:39:24.080 --> 00:39:25.110
  • drowning in that pond, you
  • 00:39:25.110 --> 00:39:27.010
  • wouldn't hesitate, you wouldn't
  • 00:39:27.010 --> 00:39:28.070
  • care about your flesh.
  • 00:39:28.070 --> 00:39:29.160
  • You would just dive in and pull
  • 00:39:29.160 --> 00:39:31.070
  • him out because love is so
  • 00:39:31.070 --> 00:39:33.040
  • powerful and love motivates us
  • 00:39:33.040 --> 00:39:35.170
  • to get into those icy waters of
  • 00:39:35.170 --> 00:39:37.040
  • evangelism.
  • 00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:38.010
  • They're freezing.
  • 00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:38.210
  • I don't like it, but I can't
  • 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:39.230
  • think of my flesh, I gotta think
  • 00:39:39.230 --> 00:39:40.250
  • of the well-being of the sinner.
  • 00:39:40.250 --> 00:39:41.260
  • - Bobby: That's what I love
  • 00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:42.230
  • about your messages.
  • 00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:43.160
  • You don't like it.
  • 00:39:43.160 --> 00:39:44.080
  • You're not a bully.
  • 00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:45.120
  • You're not out there to bother
  • 00:39:45.120 --> 00:39:46.170
  • or pester people, you're there
  • 00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:47.270
  • because you want to save them.
  • 00:39:47.270 --> 00:39:49.020
  • What do you say to people who
  • 00:39:49.020 --> 00:39:50.060
  • say that, that say, "You know,
  • 00:39:50.060 --> 00:39:51.130
  • that Ray Comfort, he's bullying
  • 00:39:51.130 --> 00:39:53.030
  • people, he's pestering people,
  • 00:39:53.030 --> 00:39:54.080
  • he's shoving religion
  • 00:39:54.080 --> 00:39:56.010
  • down their throat"?
  • 00:39:56.010 --> 00:39:56.280
  • How do you respond?
  • 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.030
  • - Ray: Well, if it's going down
  • 00:39:58.030 --> 00:39:58.250
  • their throat, the problem is
  • 00:39:58.250 --> 00:39:59.220
  • their mouth is open, okay?
  • 00:39:59.220 --> 00:40:02.120
  • It's for the ears and
  • 00:40:02.120 --> 00:40:05.080
  • the message is always gonna
  • 00:40:05.080 --> 00:40:06.060
  • be offensive.
  • 00:40:06.060 --> 00:40:07.070
  • We've got a message that's like
  • 00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:08.200
  • we're talking to criminals and
  • 00:40:08.200 --> 00:40:09.240
  • we're like officers of the law.
  • 00:40:09.240 --> 00:40:11.030
  • They call officers all sorts of
  • 00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:12.250
  • names, they'll even kill a
  • 00:40:12.250 --> 00:40:14.020
  • police officer, not because of
  • 00:40:14.020 --> 00:40:15.030
  • who he was but because of
  • 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:15.280
  • what he stands for.
  • 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.030
  • So, when you realize you're
  • 00:40:17.030 --> 00:40:18.010
  • gonna be hated for his name's
  • 00:40:18.010 --> 00:40:19.010
  • sake and there's only one person
  • 00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:20.060
  • I want to impress
  • 00:40:20.060 --> 00:40:21.150
  • and that's God.
  • 00:40:21.150 --> 00:40:22.020
  • I want his smile,
  • 00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:22.240
  • not the world's.
  • 00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:23.230
  • But if I got the world's smile,
  • 00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:24.270
  • whoever's a friend of the world
  • 00:40:24.270 --> 00:40:26.050
  • is an enemy of God, I don't want
  • 00:40:26.050 --> 00:40:27.100
  • that.
  • 00:40:27.100 --> 00:40:28.100
  • - Bobby: It almost seems like
  • 00:40:28.100 --> 00:40:29.010
  • if you've never--if you've never
  • 00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:30.190
  • been persecuted for your faith,
  • 00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:31.250
  • if you've never been
  • 00:40:31.250 --> 00:40:32.190
  • uncomfortable, if you've never
  • 00:40:32.190 --> 00:40:33.260
  • been called offensive, would you
  • 00:40:33.260 --> 00:40:35.260
  • say that in many ways you're--as
  • 00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:37.060
  • a Christian, maybe you're a baby
  • 00:40:37.060 --> 00:40:38.190
  • Christian still?
  • 00:40:38.190 --> 00:40:39.220
  • - Ray: Could be.
  • 00:40:39.220 --> 00:40:40.150
  • - Bobby: I mean, I don't mean
  • 00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:41.070
  • to be judgmental.
  • 00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:41.260
  • - Ray: No, this doesn't matter,
  • 00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:42.240
  • you can be judgmental.
  • 00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:43.170
  • All who live Godly in Christ
  • 00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:45.060
  • Jesus shall suffer persecution.
  • 00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:48.130
  • So, if you're not suffering
  • 00:40:48.130 --> 00:40:49.220
  • persecution, it could be that
  • 00:40:49.220 --> 00:40:50.250
  • you're not living Godly in
  • 00:40:50.250 --> 00:40:51.270
  • Christ Jesus, you're not
  • 00:40:51.270 --> 00:40:53.010
  • standing for righteousness in
  • 00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:54.090
  • upholding the gospel.
  • 00:40:54.090 --> 00:40:55.280
  • And I'm not talking about
  • 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.040
  • the Jesus loves you, gospel, I'm
  • 00:40:57.040 --> 00:40:58.110
  • talking about sin,
  • 00:40:58.110 --> 00:40:59.210
  • righteousness, and judgment.
  • 00:40:59.210 --> 00:41:01.070
  • We're like doctors.
  • 00:41:01.070 --> 00:41:02.010
  • When a doctor has a patient come
  • 00:41:02.010 --> 00:41:04.020
  • and he's got a terrible disease,
  • 00:41:04.020 --> 00:41:05.110
  • the doctor doesn't go, "I'm not
  • 00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:07.190
  • gonna tell this person they've
  • 00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:08.200
  • got a terminal disease.
  • 00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:09.190
  • I've got a cure but I just don't
  • 00:41:09.190 --> 00:41:10.130
  • want to make them feel
  • 00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:11.110
  • uncomfortable."
  • 00:41:11.110 --> 00:41:12.080
  • No, he'd say,
  • 00:41:12.080 --> 00:41:13.090
  • "Look, you got this,
  • 00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:14.060
  • you got ten clear symptoms."
  • 00:41:14.060 --> 00:41:15.010
  • You may see the sweat
  • 00:41:15.010 --> 00:41:15.250
  • come to the brow.
  • 00:41:15.250 --> 00:41:16.230
  • You say, "You're in big
  • 00:41:16.230 --> 00:41:17.180
  • trouble."
  • 00:41:17.180 --> 00:41:18.110
  • And he says, "What shall I do?"
  • 00:41:18.110 --> 00:41:19.160
  • Say, "Well, there's a cure."
  • 00:41:19.160 --> 00:41:20.200
  • That's when you're gonna
  • 00:41:20.200 --> 00:41:21.110
  • appreciate and appropriate
  • 00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:22.100
  • the cure because you've seen
  • 00:41:22.100 --> 00:41:23.090
  • your disease.
  • 00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:24.070
  • And no one's gonna embrace the
  • 00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:25.250
  • gospel if they don't understand
  • 00:41:25.250 --> 00:41:28.000
  • they've got the disease of sin.
  • 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:29.170
  • And so, we cause--it's been said
  • 00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:31.100
  • you can lead a horse to water
  • 00:41:31.100 --> 00:41:32.110
  • but you can't make him drink.
  • 00:41:32.110 --> 00:41:33.190
  • You can salt his oats so he
  • 00:41:33.190 --> 00:41:36.090
  • wants to drink and you salt the
  • 00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:39.030
  • oats with the Ten Commandments.
  • 00:41:39.030 --> 00:41:40.240
  • They go, "Boy, I'm in big
  • 00:41:40.240 --> 00:41:41.200
  • trouble," and they begin to
  • 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:43.040
  • thirst after righteousness which
  • 00:41:43.040 --> 00:41:44.030
  • is only in Christ.
  • 00:41:44.030 --> 00:41:45.290
  • So, that movie is just so
  • 00:41:45.290 --> 00:41:48.030
  • exciting.
  • 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:49.010
  • It comes out on YouTube.
  • 00:41:49.010 --> 00:41:50.110
  • He make movies available on
  • 00:41:50.110 --> 00:41:52.010
  • YouTube.
  • 00:41:52.010 --> 00:41:53.080
  • Our YouTube channel's got over
  • 00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:54.140
  • 49 million views.
  • 00:41:54.140 --> 00:41:55.220
  • - Bobby: Wow.
  • 00:41:55.220 --> 00:41:56.150
  • - Ray: Forty-nine million.
  • 00:41:56.150 --> 00:41:57.090
  • We're just blown away by that.
  • 00:41:57.090 --> 00:41:58.120
  • So, "Christmas Gone Viral" comes
  • 00:41:58.120 --> 00:42:00.030
  • out in about a week's time on
  • 00:42:00.030 --> 00:42:01.200
  • YouTube, so they can watch it
  • 00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:03.050
  • freely or they can get the DVD
  • 00:42:03.050 --> 00:42:04.100
  • to give to their neighbors.
  • 00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:06.130
  • And we've got them super cheap
  • 00:42:06.130 --> 00:42:07.170
  • so through livingwaters.com
  • 00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:09.050
  • people can go there and get that
  • 00:42:09.050 --> 00:42:10.100
  • 'cause we want to get this
  • 00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:11.080
  • message out.
  • 00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:12.020
  • - Bobby: Your message reminds
  • 00:42:12.020 --> 00:42:12.280
  • me so much of an old preacher,
  • 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.260
  • I'm sure you know him,
  • 00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:15.290
  • Leonard Ravenhill.
  • 00:42:15.290 --> 00:42:16.200
  • - Ray: Oh, I knew Leonard.
  • 00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:17.100
  • He told me--
  • 00:42:17.100 --> 00:42:18.020
  • - Bobby: You knew him
  • 00:42:18.020 --> 00:42:18.230
  • personally?
  • 00:42:18.230 --> 00:42:19.100
  • - Ray: Yeah, he told me praying
  • 00:42:19.100 --> 00:42:20.020
  • for me first every night.
  • 00:42:20.020 --> 00:42:21.110
  • That's what he said.
  • 00:42:21.110 --> 00:42:22.160
  • - Bobby: Really?
  • 00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:23.070
  • - Ray: He endorsed one of my
  • 00:42:23.070 --> 00:42:24.050
  • books years ago 'cause I knew
  • 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:25.000
  • his son David very well.
  • 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.100
  • - Bobby: See, for me he's like
  • 00:42:26.100 --> 00:42:27.040
  • one of these legends 'cause, you
  • 00:42:27.040 --> 00:42:28.130
  • know, he died when I was kid, or
  • 00:42:28.130 --> 00:42:29.190
  • you know, maybe I was even--I
  • 00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:30.230
  • was born in '81 so I listen to
  • 00:42:30.230 --> 00:42:33.160
  • these old sermons of his, you
  • 00:42:33.160 --> 00:42:34.250
  • know, and--
  • 00:42:34.250 --> 00:42:35.290
  • - Ray: Oh, he didn't care
  • 00:42:35.290 --> 00:42:36.240
  • what people thought.
  • 00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:37.210
  • - Bobby: No, he sure didn't.
  • 00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:38.210
  • But there's certain preachers,
  • 00:42:38.210 --> 00:42:40.060
  • there's like there's a lot of
  • 00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:41.120
  • preachers that are hellfire,
  • 00:42:41.120 --> 00:42:43.000
  • and brimstone and you look at
  • 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:44.020
  • them and it's not coming from a
  • 00:42:44.020 --> 00:42:45.260
  • place of love.
  • 00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:47.010
  • It's coming from a place of
  • 00:42:47.010 --> 00:42:48.030
  • judgmentalism and they're doing
  • 00:42:48.030 --> 00:42:49.270
  • more harm than good.
  • 00:42:49.270 --> 00:42:51.010
  • But then there's some guys like
  • 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:52.030
  • Leonard Ravenhill who are just
  • 00:42:52.030 --> 00:42:53.180
  • as fire and brimstone, but
  • 00:42:53.180 --> 00:42:55.180
  • there's something about--there's
  • 00:42:55.180 --> 00:42:56.240
  • a heart behind it
  • 00:42:56.240 --> 00:42:58.020
  • that it's the accent.
  • 00:42:58.020 --> 00:43:00.110
  • He was British.
  • 00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:02.020
  • - Ray: He was British.
  • 00:43:02.020 --> 00:43:03.000
  • - Bobby: That's it.
  • 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:04.110
  • - Ray: You gotta get an accent.
  • 00:43:04.110 --> 00:43:05.060
  • - Bobby: I gotta get an accent.
  • 00:43:05.060 --> 00:43:06.000
  • Actually, when I was in
  • 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.100
  • Australia and I--we met a lot of
  • 00:43:07.100 --> 00:43:09.190
  • kiwis and Australians and I
  • 00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:10.200
  • offended so many kiwis when
  • 00:43:10.200 --> 00:43:12.100
  • I called them Australian.
  • 00:43:12.100 --> 00:43:13.140
  • And I said--
  • 00:43:13.140 --> 00:43:14.240
  • - Ray: Are you Canadian?
  • 00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:15.190
  • - Bobby: Yeah.
  • 00:43:15.190 --> 00:43:16.220
  • - Ray: What's the difference?
  • 00:43:16.220 --> 00:43:17.130
  • - Bobby: I know.
  • 00:43:17.130 --> 00:43:18.040
  • Well, I actually asked him how
  • 00:43:18.040 --> 00:43:19.000
  • could I tell the difference?
  • 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.080
  • And they said, "You just ask
  • 00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:21.270
  • them to say fish and chips."
  • 00:43:21.270 --> 00:43:23.230
  • And apparently Australians say
  • 00:43:23.230 --> 00:43:24.150
  • feesh and cheeps.
  • 00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:25.210
  • - Ray: Fish and chips.
  • 00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:27.050
  • - Bobby: And kiwis say fosh
  • 00:43:27.050 --> 00:43:28.070
  • and chops, fosh and chops.
  • 00:43:28.070 --> 00:43:30.260
  • What do you say about--and then
  • 00:43:30.260 --> 00:43:32.120
  • okay so, for you also it's not
  • 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:33.270
  • just about getting saved, right,
  • 00:43:33.270 --> 00:43:35.080
  • you have to be a daily follower
  • 00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:36.180
  • of Jesus, you have to be a
  • 00:43:36.180 --> 00:43:37.210
  • disciple.
  • 00:43:37.210 --> 00:43:38.160
  • That's important to you too.
  • 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:39.280
  • - Ray: Yeah, that's why we
  • 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.180
  • published that book.
  • 00:43:40.180 --> 00:43:41.110
  • - Bobby: Tell me about this
  • 00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:42.070
  • book, what is this?
  • 00:43:42.070 --> 00:43:43.020
  • - Ray: This is--I was so
  • 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:43.210
  • disappointed when the publishers
  • 00:43:43.210 --> 00:43:45.070
  • sent me the cover.
  • 00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:46.030
  • I thought it was pathetic.
  • 00:43:46.030 --> 00:43:46.260
  • I thought it was just a black
  • 00:43:46.260 --> 00:43:47.230
  • cover with--on a hardback and
  • 00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:49.230
  • they sent it to me and it's just
  • 00:43:49.230 --> 00:43:51.030
  • a beautiful little Proverbs
  • 00:43:51.030 --> 00:43:53.110
  • devotional.
  • 00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:54.280
  • You know, my dog, when I give
  • 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.230
  • him food, I give really nice
  • 00:43:56.230 --> 00:43:58.110
  • food and I can't believe how he
  • 00:43:58.110 --> 00:43:59.220
  • eats.
  • 00:43:59.220 --> 00:44:00.150
  • It's as though he's never tasted
  • 00:44:00.150 --> 00:44:01.250
  • food in his life and he's never
  • 00:44:01.250 --> 00:44:03.000
  • gonna taste it again.
  • 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:04.030
  • He gets it down in 5 seconds.
  • 00:44:04.030 --> 00:44:05.110
  • I yell out, "What are you doing?
  • 00:44:05.110 --> 00:44:06.140
  • You have taste buds in your
  • 00:44:06.140 --> 00:44:07.220
  • stomach or something?"
  • 00:44:07.220 --> 00:44:08.260
  • I say, "Slow down."
  • 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:10.010
  • And we often
  • 00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:10.240
  • read the Bible the same way.
  • 00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:12.080
  • We say, "Oh, I read 15 chapters
  • 00:44:12.080 --> 00:44:13.160
  • in the Bible today."
  • 00:44:13.160 --> 00:44:14.130
  • No, no,
  • 00:44:14.130 --> 00:44:15.040
  • the Bible speaks of meditating
  • 00:44:15.040 --> 00:44:16.160
  • on the law of God both day
  • 00:44:16.160 --> 00:44:17.140
  • and night.
  • 00:44:17.140 --> 00:44:18.130
  • So, what we've done is taken
  • 00:44:18.130 --> 00:44:19.260
  • Proverbs and dropped it down so
  • 00:44:19.260 --> 00:44:21.230
  • that it's palatable so that you
  • 00:44:21.230 --> 00:44:24.030
  • can chew it over, meditate,
  • 00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:25.050
  • absorb it into your system,
  • 00:44:25.050 --> 00:44:27.040
  • let it give you warmth, and
  • 00:44:27.040 --> 00:44:28.090
  • sustenance, and energy during
  • 00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:29.180
  • the day so it's a year's of
  • 00:44:29.180 --> 00:44:31.280
  • daily devotionals from the Book
  • 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.180
  • of Proverbs to save yourself
  • 00:44:33.180 --> 00:44:34.220
  • some pain.
  • 00:44:34.220 --> 00:44:36.010
  • And we're very excited about it,
  • 00:44:36.010 --> 00:44:37.110
  • makes a great little--
  • 00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:38.160
  • - Bobby: The book is called
  • 00:44:38.160 --> 00:44:39.160
  • "Think On These Things: Wisdom
  • 00:44:39.160 --> 00:44:40.180
  • For Life From Proverbs"
  • 00:44:40.180 --> 00:44:42.010
  • by Ray Comfort.
  • 00:44:42.010 --> 00:44:43.050
  • - Ray: And it's written in
  • 00:44:43.050 --> 00:44:43.270
  • a New Zealand accent.
  • 00:44:43.270 --> 00:44:45.020
  • - Bobby: Is it?
  • 00:44:45.020 --> 00:44:45.260
  • Oh, that's terrific.
  • 00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:47.010
  • Oh, my goodness, yup, I see it
  • 00:44:47.010 --> 00:44:48.150
  • right there.
  • 00:44:48.150 --> 00:44:50.120
  • Oh, that's terrific.
  • 00:44:50.120 --> 00:44:51.110
  • I remember when--I was telling
  • 00:44:51.110 --> 00:44:52.120
  • you this earlier.
  • 00:44:52.120 --> 00:44:53.050
  • My grandma gave me a tremendous
  • 00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:54.130
  • gift and I often tell new
  • 00:44:54.130 --> 00:44:55.120
  • believers this, when--just to
  • 00:44:55.120 --> 00:44:57.060
  • get in the habit of reading
  • 00:44:57.060 --> 00:44:58.030
  • their Bible, "How do I read my
  • 00:44:58.030 --> 00:44:59.040
  • Bible?"
  • 00:44:59.040 --> 00:44:59.250
  • And I just say, well, start in
  • 00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:00.220
  • Proverbs and whatever the date
  • 00:45:00.220 --> 00:45:02.090
  • is, there's 31 Proverbs, just
  • 00:45:02.090 --> 00:45:03.290
  • pick that date and read that
  • 00:45:03.290 --> 00:45:05.130
  • Proverbs.
  • 00:45:05.130 --> 00:45:06.090
  • You know, if it's the 5th, you
  • 00:45:06.090 --> 00:45:08.120
  • read Proverbs 5.
  • 00:45:08.120 --> 00:45:09.100
  • If it's the 20th, you read
  • 00:45:09.100 --> 00:45:10.130
  • Proverbs 20.
  • 00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:11.060
  • And I find that that's a nice
  • 00:45:11.060 --> 00:45:12.120
  • way to get people, you know,
  • 00:45:12.120 --> 00:45:13.160
  • into that.
  • 00:45:13.160 --> 00:45:14.070
  • So, well, I know you're so
  • 00:45:14.070 --> 00:45:15.130
  • passionate about people coming
  • 00:45:15.130 --> 00:45:17.110
  • to faith, and what do you say to
  • 00:45:17.110 --> 00:45:19.050
  • somebody who's maybe watching
  • 00:45:19.050 --> 00:45:20.210
  • tonight and they're like, "I
  • 00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.160
  • don't know if I believe in God,
  • 00:45:22.160 --> 00:45:24.090
  • I don't know if I believe in any
  • 00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:25.070
  • of this stuff.
  • 00:45:25.070 --> 00:45:26.220
  • How do you even know there
  • 00:45:26.220 --> 00:45:27.230
  • is a God or how do you know
  • 00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:28.180
  • it's true?"
  • 00:45:28.180 --> 00:45:29.080
  • And what would you say to those
  • 00:45:29.080 --> 00:45:30.230
  • people listening tonight that
  • 00:45:30.230 --> 00:45:31.250
  • are just on the fence about
  • 00:45:31.250 --> 00:45:33.050
  • - Ray: I'll talk to the camera,
  • 00:45:35.070 --> 00:45:36.130
  • if I may.
  • 00:45:36.130 --> 00:45:37.090
  • There's no fence to sit on,
  • 00:45:37.090 --> 00:45:39.030
  • you're either saved or
  • 00:45:39.030 --> 00:45:40.050
  • you're lost.
  • 00:45:40.050 --> 00:45:40.210
  • It's either heaven or hell.
  • 00:45:40.210 --> 00:45:41.180
  • God is just and holy,
  • 00:45:41.180 --> 00:45:43.060
  • but he's rich in mercy.
  • 00:45:43.060 --> 00:45:44.220
  • And he's seen our thought life.
  • 00:45:44.220 --> 00:45:45.260
  • Every single one of us share
  • 00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:47.050
  • our thought life with God.
  • 00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:48.050
  • There's no secrets with God.
  • 00:45:48.050 --> 00:45:49.260
  • All things are open before the
  • 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:51.130
  • eyes of him with whom we have
  • 00:45:51.130 --> 00:45:52.200
  • to give an account and the
  • 00:45:52.200 --> 00:45:53.220
  • Scriptures warn, it's appointed
  • 00:45:53.220 --> 00:45:55.010
  • a man once to die and after this
  • 00:45:55.010 --> 00:45:56.260
  • the judgment.
  • 00:45:56.260 --> 00:45:57.200
  • So, when we die, we have to
  • 00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:58.270
  • stand before a holy God who sees
  • 00:45:58.270 --> 00:46:00.190
  • lust as adultery, hatred as
  • 00:46:00.190 --> 00:46:02.040
  • murder.
  • 00:46:02.040 --> 00:46:03.110
  • Lying lips are an abomination to
  • 00:46:03.110 --> 00:46:04.200
  • him and every time we sin, we
  • 00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:06.040
  • stir up his wrath.
  • 00:46:06.040 --> 00:46:07.100
  • And hell is a reality, and I
  • 00:46:07.100 --> 00:46:08.240
  • don't want anyone to
  • 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:10.030
  • end up in hell.
  • 00:46:10.030 --> 00:46:11.000
  • And God is rich in mercy and
  • 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.170
  • provided a Savior, and that's
  • 00:46:12.170 --> 00:46:13.230
  • what Christmas is about.
  • 00:46:13.230 --> 00:46:15.090
  • this baby was God in human form.
  • 00:46:17.250 --> 00:46:20.160
  • He was born that man no more may
  • 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:22.170
  • die, born to raise the sons of
  • 00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:24.100
  • earth, born to give them second
  • 00:46:24.100 --> 00:46:25.250
  • birth.
  • 00:46:25.250 --> 00:46:26.160
  • So, when Christ came to this
  • 00:46:26.160 --> 00:46:27.220
  • earth, he became a man at the
  • 00:46:27.220 --> 00:46:30.080
  • age of 33, gave his life on the
  • 00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:31.220
  • cross to take the punishment for
  • 00:46:31.220 --> 00:46:32.290
  • the sin of the world.
  • 00:46:32.290 --> 00:46:34.030
  • It's as simple as this, we broke
  • 00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:36.080
  • God's law, Jesus paid the fine.
  • 00:46:36.080 --> 00:46:38.210
  • He cried out, "It is finished."
  • 00:46:38.210 --> 00:46:40.100
  • The debt has been paid.
  • 00:46:40.100 --> 00:46:41.210
  • Then he rose from the dead and
  • 00:46:41.210 --> 00:46:42.230
  • defeated death.
  • 00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:43.210
  • It was not possible death could
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  • hold him and what you and
  • 00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:46.180
  • I have to do is repent and
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  • trust in him.
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  • Don't just say, "God, forgive
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  • me," I mean, call upon the name
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  • of the Lord.
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  • Put him on like you'd put a
  • 00:46:54.120 --> 00:46:55.200
  • parachute on because you have to
  • 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.260
  • pass through the door of death
  • 00:46:56.260 --> 00:46:58.070
  • and you need a Savior.
  • 00:46:58.070 --> 00:46:59.160
  • So, don't put it off till
  • 00:46:59.160 --> 00:47:00.140
  • tomorrow, do it today.
  • 00:47:00.140 --> 00:47:02.080
  • Get right with God today.
  • 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:03.280
  • Should we pray?
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  • - Bobby: Yeah, that would be
  • 00:47:05.210 --> 00:47:06.120
  • great, Ray.
  • 00:47:06.120 --> 00:47:07.020
  • - Ray: Father, we pray for
  • 00:47:07.020 --> 00:47:08.100
  • those that are watching, firstly
  • 00:47:08.100 --> 00:47:09.260
  • for those that are Christians
  • 00:47:09.260 --> 00:47:11.100
  • that love you and want to serve
  • 00:47:11.100 --> 00:47:12.180
  • you, that you give courage and
  • 00:47:12.180 --> 00:47:13.220
  • love to motivate them to speak
  • 00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:15.150
  • the truth in love.
  • 00:47:15.150 --> 00:47:16.210
  • And we pray for the unsaved that
  • 00:47:16.210 --> 00:47:17.280
  • this day people will truly
  • 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.050
  • repent and call upon the name of
  • 00:47:20.050 --> 00:47:22.140
  • the Lord and pass from death to
  • 00:47:22.140 --> 00:47:25.040
  • life because you're rich
  • 00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:26.290
  • in mercy.
  • 00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:27.270
  • In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
  • 00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:30.230
  • - Bobby: Amen.
  • 00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:31.230
  • - Bobby: Amen.
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  • [a
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  • [audience ap
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  • [audience appl
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  • [audience applau
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  • [audience applaudi
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  • [audience applauding
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Silent night!
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  • Holy night!
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  • All is calm
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  • all is bright.
  • 00:48:00.200 --> 00:48:03.200
  • Round yon virgin
  • 00:48:05.270 --> 00:48:08.270
  • mother and child.
  • 00:48:11.110 --> 00:48:14.110
  • Holy infant
  • 00:48:15.260 --> 00:48:18.260
  • so tender and mild.
  • 00:48:22.160 --> 00:48:25.160
  • Sleep in heavenly peace.
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  • Sleep in heavenly peace.
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  • Silent night!
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  • Holy night!
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  • Shepherds quake
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  • at the sight.
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  • Glories stream
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  • from heaven afar.
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  • Heavenly hosts
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  • sing Alleluia.
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  • Christ the Saviour is born.
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  • Christ the Savior is born.
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  • Alleluia, Alleluia,
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  • Alleluia.
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  • Alleluia, Alleluia,
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  • Alleluia, Alleluia,
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  • Alleluia.
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  • Alleluia, Alleluia,
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  • Silent night!
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  • Holy night!
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  • Sleep in heavenly
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  • peace!
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  • Alleluia, Alleluia,
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  • Alleluia,
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  • [audience applauding
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  • - Bobby: Thank you.
  • 00:51:47.240 --> 00:51:50.240
  • This is the California
  • 00:51:50.240 --> 00:51:52.070
  • Baptist University Choir.
  • 00:51:52.070 --> 00:51:53.290
  • We organized this
  • 00:51:53.290 --> 00:51:54.240
  • flash mob just for you, Ray.
  • 00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:56.120
  • - Ray: I detected they
  • 00:51:56.120 --> 00:51:58.110
  • didn't come off the street.
  • 00:51:58.110 --> 00:51:59.290
  • - Bobby: Yeah, that's right it.
  • 00:51:59.290 --> 00:52:02.010
  • Was led by Dr. Guy Holiday
  • 00:52:02.010 --> 00:52:03.080
  • and where is he or Guy Holiday?
  • 00:52:03.080 --> 00:52:05.070
  • Just there, hi, Dr. Holiday.
  • 00:52:05.070 --> 00:52:06.220
  • Appreciate you guys coming out.
  • 00:52:10.120 --> 00:52:13.120
  • Love that arrangement,
  • 00:52:13.120 --> 00:52:15.110
  • thank you so much, sir.
  • 00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:15.290
  • Appreciate you.
  • 00:52:15.290 --> 00:52:17.100
  • And is that Travis
  • 00:52:17.100 --> 00:52:18.030
  • Hey, look at that.
  • 00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:21.260
  • Hey, is that your girlfriend?
  • 00:52:21.260 --> 00:52:24.150
  • No?
  • 00:52:24.150 --> 00:52:25.290
  • - Ray: She is now.
  • 00:52:25.290 --> 00:52:26.260
  • - Bobby: Yeah, yeah right.
  • 00:52:27.010 --> 00:52:30.010
  • Yeah, right, dude?
  • 00:52:30.100 --> 00:52:33.100
  • I'm sorry, I didn't mean
  • 00:52:33.100 --> 00:52:35.120
  • to embarrass you, but if
  • 00:52:35.120 --> 00:52:37.000
  • you guys get married, call me
  • 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.020
  • I'll do the wedding, okay?
  • 00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:41.240
  • Hey, Cal Baptist, thank you
  • 00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:43.160
  • guys so much for being here.
  • 00:52:43.160 --> 00:52:45.000
  • We appreciate you so much.
  • 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:46.080
  • And Ray, what'd you think?
  • 00:52:46.080 --> 00:52:47.250
  • - Ray: I thought you just put
  • 00:52:47.250 --> 00:52:49.000
  • your foot in your mouth and I
  • 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:49.250
  • thought you held it really well.
  • 00:52:49.250 --> 00:52:52.020
  • That was great.
  • 00:52:52.020 --> 00:52:54.090
  • - Bobby: Well, we appreciate
  • 00:52:54.090 --> 00:52:55.130
  • you guys.
  • 00:52:55.130 --> 00:52:56.030
  • - Ray: And I love that, that
  • 00:52:56.030 --> 00:52:57.000
  • was just absolutely beautiful
  • 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:57.280
  • and I wish I could sing
  • 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.050
  • like that.
  • 00:52:59.050 --> 00:53:00.030
  • - Bobby: Yeah, well, thank you,
  • 00:53:00.030 --> 00:53:01.230
  • And how can we find out more
  • 00:53:03.250 --> 00:53:05.130
  • about Cal Baptist Choir?
  • 00:53:05.130 --> 00:53:07.080
  • - Dr. Holiday: Just a
  • 00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:08.260
  • university, it's in Riverside,
  • 00:53:08.260 --> 00:53:10.080
  • California, a great Christian
  • 00:53:10.080 --> 00:53:11.160
  • university with a wonderful
  • 00:53:11.160 --> 00:53:12.210
  • music program and many other
  • 00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:13.260
  • programs.
  • 00:53:13.260 --> 00:53:14.220
  • We're thrilled to be here
  • 00:53:14.220 --> 00:53:15.240
  • tonight.
  • 00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:16.090
  • Thank you, Bobby.
  • 00:53:16.090 --> 00:53:16.260
  • - Bobby: Great.
  • 00:53:16.260 --> 00:53:17.170
  • All right, thank you, sir.
  • 00:53:17.170 --> 00:53:18.060
  • Appreciate you so much.
  • 00:53:18.060 --> 00:53:18.250
  • - Ray: So, I've got a gift
  • 00:53:20.270 --> 00:53:21.180
  • for ya.
  • 00:53:21.180 --> 00:53:22.050
  • - Bobby: Okay.
  • 00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:22.230
  • - Ray: When I give someone
  • 00:53:22.230 --> 00:53:23.220
  • a million-dollar bill, I get it
  • 00:53:23.220 --> 00:53:25.220
  • from my hundred-dollar wallet.
  • 00:53:25.220 --> 00:53:28.110
  • - Bobby: Okay.
  • 00:53:28.110 --> 00:53:29.170
  • - Ray: Here it is.
  • 00:53:29.170 --> 00:53:30.210
  • - Bobby: Oh, great.
  • 00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:31.220
  • So, you put these, so you pull
  • 00:53:31.220 --> 00:53:33.010
  • out--first of all,
  • 00:53:33.010 --> 00:53:34.130
  • this wallet is awesome.
  • 00:53:34.130 --> 00:53:35.190
  • I might just actually make this
  • 00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:36.110
  • my wallet.
  • 00:53:36.110 --> 00:53:37.150
  • - Ray: Yes, that's good.
  • 00:53:37.150 --> 00:53:38.150
  • - Bobby: Except put real money
  • 00:53:38.150 --> 00:53:39.240
  • in it.
  • 00:53:39.240 --> 00:53:40.180
  • But this is terrific.
  • 00:53:40.180 --> 00:53:41.170
  • So, you know, I think this
  • 00:53:41.170 --> 00:53:42.260
  • is so great.
  • 00:53:42.260 --> 00:53:44.130
  • I mean, a lot of people, and
  • 00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:45.030
  • Christians too, will criticize
  • 00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:46.200
  • tracts and things like that, and
  • 00:53:46.200 --> 00:53:48.200
  • I've never understood that
  • 00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:50.070
  • because I just think that it's
  • 00:53:50.070 --> 00:53:51.170
  • so good to proclaim
  • 00:53:51.170 --> 00:53:54.040
  • the gospel any way you can.
  • 00:53:54.040 --> 00:53:56.140
  • - Ray: Well, let me tell ya,
  • 00:53:56.140 --> 00:53:57.100
  • Kirk Cameron, we paired up and
  • 00:53:57.100 --> 00:54:00.120
  • produced a television program
  • 00:54:00.120 --> 00:54:01.130
  • years ago called
  • 00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:03.050
  • "The Way of the Master."
  • 00:54:03.050 --> 00:54:04.140
  • When we first met me,
  • 00:54:04.140 --> 00:54:05.150
  • - Bobby: Was he, why?
  • 00:54:07.170 --> 00:54:08.050
  • - Ray: He was horrified he told
  • 00:54:08.050 --> 00:54:09.100
  • me later.
  • 00:54:09.100 --> 00:54:10.060
  • He heard a teaching I do called
  • 00:54:10.060 --> 00:54:11.270
  • Hell's Best Kept Secret, asked
  • 00:54:11.270 --> 00:54:13.100
  • if he could come and meet me and
  • 00:54:13.100 --> 00:54:14.240
  • I said, well, let me check
  • 00:54:14.240 --> 00:54:15.150
  • my calendar.
  • 00:54:15.150 --> 00:54:16.270
  • - Bobby: That's your big
  • 00:54:16.270 --> 00:54:17.160
  • sermon, isn't it?
  • 00:54:17.160 --> 00:54:18.040
  • - Ray: Yes, it's
  • 00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:18.220
  • the big sermon.
  • 00:54:18.220 --> 00:54:19.140
  • lunch and as we walked into
  • 00:54:21.240 --> 00:54:23.030
  • the restaurant, I started giving
  • 00:54:23.030 --> 00:54:24.100
  • out tracts to people.
  • 00:54:24.100 --> 00:54:25.150
  • And he thought,
  • 00:54:25.150 --> 00:54:26.140
  • no, he's one of those.
  • 00:54:26.140 --> 00:54:28.280
  • But he noticed people were
  • 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.240
  • reading them and some weeks
  • 00:54:30.240 --> 00:54:32.280
  • later, he said he was in
  • 00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.050
  • a restaurant and he so wanted
  • 00:54:35.050 --> 00:54:37.010
  • to preach the waitress
  • 00:54:37.010 --> 00:54:38.020
  • with the gospel.
  • 00:54:38.020 --> 00:54:38.220
  • His heart was breaking for her,
  • 00:54:38.220 --> 00:54:40.060
  • he said, I want to--so he went
  • 00:54:40.060 --> 00:54:41.050
  • to write on a napkin the gospel,
  • 00:54:41.050 --> 00:54:43.180
  • you know, give your life
  • 00:54:43.180 --> 00:54:44.130
  • to Christ.
  • 00:54:44.130 --> 00:54:45.100
  • He thought this
  • 00:54:45.100 --> 00:54:46.110
  • is a gospel tract.
  • 00:54:46.110 --> 00:54:47.110
  • And so, he started carrying
  • 00:54:47.110 --> 00:54:48.130
  • tracts from that time onwards
  • 00:54:48.130 --> 00:54:49.260
  • and it's just wonderful
  • 00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:50.280
  • to see him.
  • 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:51.160
  • When we traveled, he'd be in
  • 00:54:51.160 --> 00:54:53.020
  • a airport just giving out tracts
  • 00:54:53.020 --> 00:54:54.060
  • and people'd look at me and
  • 00:54:54.060 --> 00:54:55.130
  • I'd say, "It's him, it's him."
  • 00:54:55.130 --> 00:54:57.200
  • And it was just such a blessing.
  • 00:54:57.200 --> 00:54:59.030
  • He used to hide from his
  • 00:54:59.030 --> 00:55:00.110
  • celebrity until he realized how
  • 00:55:00.110 --> 00:55:01.280
  • it could be used for the gospel
  • 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.020
  • and it was just wonderful.
  • 00:55:03.020 --> 00:55:04.220
  • - Bobby: So, when people would
  • 00:55:04.220 --> 00:55:05.240
  • come to Kirk Cameron then, would
  • 00:55:05.240 --> 00:55:07.040
  • he share his faith or does he
  • 00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:08.160
  • share his faith?
  • 00:55:08.160 --> 00:55:09.130
  • - Ray: Oh yes, yeah.
  • 00:55:09.130 --> 00:55:10.010
  • Let me tell ya one thing that
  • 00:55:10.010 --> 00:55:11.160
  • happened.
  • 00:55:11.160 --> 00:55:12.240
  • We were in Chicago Airport and I
  • 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:14.070
  • saw this girl sitting on the
  • 00:55:14.070 --> 00:55:16.140
  • floor in the airport, which you
  • 00:55:16.140 --> 00:55:17.250
  • often see, looking miserable.
  • 00:55:17.250 --> 00:55:18.290
  • She was about 20 years old and I
  • 00:55:18.290 --> 00:55:20.190
  • went up and gave her
  • 00:55:20.190 --> 00:55:21.130
  • a million-dollar bill
  • 00:55:21.130 --> 00:55:22.040
  • and she took it.
  • 00:55:22.040 --> 00:55:22.240
  • And I said, "Do you know
  • 00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:23.250
  • who Kirk Cameron is?"
  • 00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:24.170
  • And she said, "Yes."
  • 00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:25.270
  • I said,
  • 00:55:25.270 --> 00:55:26.150
  • "Would you like to meet him?"
  • 00:55:26.150 --> 00:55:27.120
  • She said, "Oh, yes."
  • 00:55:27.120 --> 00:55:29.090
  • So, I went, "Kirk--"
  • 00:55:29.090 --> 00:55:31.110
  • And so, Kirk came over
  • 00:55:31.110 --> 00:55:34.040
  • and I introduced them, and he
  • 00:55:34.040 --> 00:55:35.030
  • signed her tract for her and
  • 00:55:35.030 --> 00:55:36.070
  • chatted to her for
  • 00:55:36.070 --> 00:55:37.100
  • a few moments.
  • 00:55:37.100 --> 00:55:38.050
  • And as we walked off, I turn
  • 00:55:38.050 --> 00:55:39.270
  • around and looked at me
  • 00:55:39.270 --> 00:55:41.230
  • and said, "Thank you."
  • 00:55:41.230 --> 00:55:44.010
  • And I felt like Santa Claus
  • 00:55:44.010 --> 00:55:44.290
  • on steroids.
  • 00:55:44.290 --> 00:55:46.290
  • - Bobby: Do you remember
  • 00:55:46.290 --> 00:55:47.240
  • the first person you ever led to
  • 00:55:47.240 --> 00:55:49.130
  • the Lord?
  • 00:55:49.130 --> 00:55:50.280
  • - Ray: I haven't really led
  • 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:51.210
  • anyone to the Lord.
  • 00:55:51.210 --> 00:55:53.000
  • I've shared the gospel and God
  • 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:54.260
  • saves people but no not really.
  • 00:55:54.260 --> 00:55:56.170
  • No, it's a sowing
  • 00:55:56.170 --> 00:55:58.040
  • and tears ministry.
  • 00:55:58.040 --> 00:55:58.290
  • I preached the gospel every day,
  • 00:55:58.290 --> 00:56:01.050
  • almost every day, for 12 years
  • 00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:02.040
  • in the heart of our city in
  • 00:56:02.040 --> 00:56:03.040
  • Christchurch, New Zealand
  • 00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:04.260
  • and hardly anyone got saved.
  • 00:56:04.260 --> 00:56:06.250
  • It was like sowing in tears.
  • 00:56:06.250 --> 00:56:08.120
  • Then when I left New Zealand,
  • 00:56:08.120 --> 00:56:09.180
  • came across to the U.S.
  • 00:56:09.180 --> 00:56:10.230
  • years later, people wrote and
  • 00:56:10.230 --> 00:56:11.280
  • said, "I became a Christian.
  • 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:12.270
  • I heard you preach years ago."
  • 00:56:12.270 --> 00:56:14.270
  • So, God is faithful.
  • 00:56:14.270 --> 00:56:16.080
  • So, I'm not one to get people
  • 00:56:16.080 --> 00:56:17.100
  • to make a decision.
  • 00:56:17.100 --> 00:56:18.130
  • I just leave it up to the Lord
  • 00:56:18.130 --> 00:56:19.110
  • because I don't want to
  • 00:56:19.110 --> 00:56:20.130
  • interfere with someone's
  • 00:56:20.130 --> 00:56:21.120
  • salvation.
  • 00:56:21.120 --> 00:56:22.080
  • - Bobby: I know Jesus tells
  • 00:56:22.080 --> 00:56:23.000
  • this parable and you know it,
  • 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:24.030
  • that he talks about the seed
  • 00:56:24.030 --> 00:56:25.160
  • that falls on the rock that
  • 00:56:25.160 --> 00:56:26.260
  • falls on rocky ground,
  • 00:56:26.260 --> 00:56:28.140
  • that falls along thorns,
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  • and falls along good soil.
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  • And I remember years ago
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  • thinking that it's like a
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  • once--you know, it only happens
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  • once, you know?
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  • Like you get one shot.
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  • And though you only have one
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  • life, I remember realizing later
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  • when you see, you know,
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  • the Word being tossed,
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  • it's almost careless.
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  • I mean, you know, the seeds.
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  • You know, when you see a farmer
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  • throwing seeds, they're just a
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  • bit careless and almost random.
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  • You know, they go in a direction
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  • but you never know where they're
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  • gonna land.
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  • - Ray: Well, the wonderful
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  • thing is the quality is in the
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  • seed, not the sower.
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  • A child can pick up a seed and
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  • just go like that and it's gonna
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  • bring forth fruit on good soil
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  • for the skilled farmer does it
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  • skillfully.
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  • The seed has the quality, not
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  • the sower, which is my great
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  • consolation.
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  • - Bobby: Well, that's exactly
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  • what I was getting at though,
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  • not to put you down, but just to
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  • say that anybody can do this.
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  • And if you're watching today, I
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  • want you to know too if you're a
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  • believer, you can share your
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  • faith and I think one of the
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  • best ways to do it is just to
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  • share your story.
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  • Get a tract, share a tract, but
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  • do what you can to make sure
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  • the message gets out.
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  • And for those of you who don't
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  • know the Lord, make a decision
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  • today, life and death to lay
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  • before you, choose life and
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  • you will live in Jesus' name.
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  • - Ray: Yes, and, you know, our
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  • website has got a lot of free
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  • videos.
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  • People can learn by watching
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  • other people do it, by watching
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  • me do it and seeing how people
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  • react.
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  • They all react the same.
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  • We're the same blood, we're the
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  • same personality in one sense.
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  • God's made us all the same and
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  • so you can do this.
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  • - Bobby: Ray Comfort, thank you
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  • again so much for being here
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  • tonight, and we just appreciate
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  • you, love you so much.
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  • And you at home, wherever
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  • you are, we want you to know
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  • we love you and too.
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  • And most of all and most
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  • importantly, God loves you.
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  • He paved the way
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  • so that you can be saved.
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  • You have before you the path of
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  • life and death, choose life.
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  • It's your choice and you
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  • can be radically transformed
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  • to receive heaven when you die.
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  • Thank you
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  • for joining us tonight.
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  • We love you so much.
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  • And remember as always,
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