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Frequently Asked Questions: What Does God Say About Homosexuality?

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February 7, 2017
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Bil Cornelius

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Frequently Asked Questions: What Does God Say About Homosexuality?

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  • - Pastor Bil Cornelius:
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  • The answer is not, "I'm gonna
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  • not be gay, not be gay,
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  • not be gay."
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  • No, that's not the answer.
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  • And the same way I would say,
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  • whatever else you're
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  • struggling with.
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  • It's like close your eyes
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  • right now and say, "I will not
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  • think of the number eight.
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  • I will not think
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  • of the number eight.
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  • And you're going be thinking
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  • of number eight the whole time.
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  • The answer is what?
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  • Focus on Jesus, and get more
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  • and more Jesus.
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  • When you filled with Christ,
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  • it crowds out
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  • all of the other areas
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  • of your life and all that stuff
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  • just dissipates.
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  • [music]
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  • - Bil: You are the church
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  • - Bil: Welcome.
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  • How are you guys doing?
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  • Great to have you guys here.
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  • Thanks for joining us today.
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  • Let's start off
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  • with our mission statement,
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  • if you can, as a church.
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  • Let's say this together,
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  • "We are here to do," what?
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  • "To take as many people
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  • to heaven as we can
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  • before we die, period."
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  • That's what we're
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  • all about as church.
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  • Again, thanks for coming out
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  • today.
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  • So this is the big one,
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  • because everyone has been
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  • waiting on like, "What's he
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  • gonna say, right?"
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  • And so, everyone has been asking
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  • me, you know, when are you
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  • talking about homosexuality?
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  • I want to start off
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  • by first of all saying, we have
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  • a lot of gay people that come
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  • to our church, and we love
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  • the fact that you're
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  • part of our church today.
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  • Yeah, I want to say this
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  • right at the beginning though,
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  • I want to talk
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  • to the gay community directly.
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  • I want to start off this message
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  • by first apologizing to you
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  • on behalf of the church,
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  • in telling you,
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  • that you have been mistreated
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  • by Christians, you have been
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  • mistreated by the church,
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  • you've been treated
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  • like a pariah,
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  • or a second class citizen,
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  • and that it not right.
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  • It is not fair, and you deserve
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  • better than that,
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  • and we love you.
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  • That's the first thing
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  • I want you to know,
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  • because God does love you.
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  • God has a plan for your life.
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  • We truly do believe that.
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  • And so, today as we talk,
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  • understand that God loves you.
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  • Pull out your notes loves you.
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  • if you would, and let's
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  • get started talking about this,
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  • because it's a big subject
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  • that a lot of people
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  • are curious about, and I've got
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  • a lot of ground to cover,
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  • so I'm going to go
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  • kind of quick.
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  • So, first of all, let's start
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  • with John 3:16.
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  • It says this, "For God
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  • so loved the world,
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  • that he gave
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  • his one and only Son,
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  • that whoever believes in Him,
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  • shall not perish but have
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  • eternal life.
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  • For God did not send his Son
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  • into the world to condemn
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  • the world but to save
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  • the world through him."
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  • The first thing you need to know
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  • is this: number one, would you
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  • write this down?
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  • God loves everyone,
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  • including someone struggling
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  • with same sex attraction.
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  • It does not say,
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  • "For God loves the world,
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  • well, unless you're gay."
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  • It doesn't say that.
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  • It doesn't say,
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  • "For God so loved the world,
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  • unless you are a gossip.
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  • For God so loved the world,
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  • unless you killed someone.
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  • For God so loved the world
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  • unless you partied really hard
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  • in spring break.
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  • For God so loved the world,"
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  • it doesn't say--there's no
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  • exceptions.
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  • Okay, so just know that
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  • right off the bat.
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  • So let's keep going now.
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  • It says in Roman 3:23,
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  • "For all have sinned
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  • to fall short
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  • of the glory of God."
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  • So all of us have sinned.
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  • Turn to the person
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  • right next to you and point
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  • your big finger in their face
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  • and go, "You're a sinner."
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  • Let him know right now.
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  • Would you do that?
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  • Some of you are really good
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  • at that.
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  • That's interesting.
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  • All the moms in the room
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  • had that down there like,
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  • "You are a sinner."
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  • It says
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  • in Mark Chapter 1, verse 14,
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  • it says this, "Now
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  • after John was arrested,
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  • Jesus came into Galilee,
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  • proclaiming the gospel of God
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  • and saying, "The time is
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  • fulfilled," or the time is now,
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  • "and the kingdom of God is
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  • at hand."
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  • Then he says this, this is
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  • his famous line.
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  • He says, "Repent and believe
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  • in the gospel."
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  • So the gospel is, by definition,
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  • Jesus dying for our sins,
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  • raising to life, and us
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  • accepting him as our savior.
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  • That's what the gospel is.
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  • That's what he wants all of us
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  • to do.
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  • But what's the prerequisite
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  • to the gospel?
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  • Repentance.
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  • The word repent literally means
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  • to turn around.
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  • So this is important
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  • to understand.
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  • To be a Christian, to be
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  • a part of Christ, is to be
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  • a community of repenters.
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  • And so I want to tell you
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  • right now, I'm not trying
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  • to offend the 3% or less of you
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  • that are gay.
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  • I'm trying to offend
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  • 100% of you today, to know
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  • that all of you, including me,
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  • are sinners.
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  • So the Bible is very clear
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  • about this.
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  • In fact, I want to show you this
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  • in Romans 8--excuse me,
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  • Mark 8, verse 34.
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  • It says this,
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  • "In calling the crowd to him,
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  • with his disciples, he said
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  • to them, "If anyone would come
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  • after me, let him deny himself
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  • and take up his cross
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  • and follow me.'"
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  • Jesus was talking to crowds
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  • all the time.
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  • In fact, did you know
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  • that Jesus, on average
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  • the crowds that would
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  • come hear Jesus, were
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  • between 15 and 25.000 people,
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  • would show up to hear Jesus.,
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  • I mean, he was a rock star
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  • in his day.
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  • He had thousands upon thousands.
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  • So this is a reason he would
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  • oftentimes preach at the Sea
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  • of Galilee is
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  • 'cause the Sea of Galilee
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  • was like this giant cliff.
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  • It was kind of like
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  • California oceans,
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  • to where you've got
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  • this little bit of beach,
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  • and it goes way up
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  • on these giant cliffs.
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  • The reason why that was
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  • important is because you could
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  • gather more people.
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  • It was kind of was like
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  • God's amphitheater.
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  • You could gather more people
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  • to hear Jesus, that could get
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  • close enough to hear him.
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  • When you've got 15.000 people,
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  • you need to have this,
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  • you know, sort of like
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  • an amphitheater design
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  • so they could all hear him.
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  • Now, don't you think
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  • that out of 15 to 20.000 people,
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  • that someone in the audience
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  • was gay?
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  • Let's just be honest.
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  • I mean, come on,
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  • out of those numbers,
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  • someone there struggled
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  • with this, right?
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  • I mean, if the numbers bear out
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  • to today's, you know,
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  • percentages, that means
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  • 2 to 3% of the people there
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  • were probably gay, or struggling
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  • with same sex attraction.
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  • You know, Jesus was fully man
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  • and fully God, which means
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  • he knew everyone's thoughts.
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  • Did you know that several times
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  • in Scriptures, people would
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  • think something, and he would
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  • answer their thoughts
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  • without them even saying
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  • anything?
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  • Did you know that?
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  • Because he's fully God.
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  • He knew
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  • what their thoughts were.
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  • He said, "I don't care
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  • what you've done,
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  • where you've been,
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  • and, you know, who you've
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  • been doing whatever with, I need
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  • all of you to repent, because
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  • to follow me is to repent."
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  • Does that make sense?
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  • So there's no exceptions
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  • to this rule.
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  • Regardless of what your struggle
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  • happens to be.
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  • This is important, number two:
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  • we are all sinners and are
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  • required to repent when we come
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  • to Jesus for our sins--
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  • of our sins.
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  • So all of us have to repent
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  • of sin.
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  • And so, now I want
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  • to now show you
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  • some of the Scriptures.
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  • There's just a few of them.
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  • There are a lot more, but it's
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  • not as many as you may think
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  • actually in the Bible, but there
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  • are some Scriptures that's
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  • very clear about homosexuality.
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  • Look at Leviticus Chapter 18.y.
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  • It says, "Do not lie
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  • with a man as one lies
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  • with a woman.
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  • That is detestable."
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  • Genesis Chapter 2, verse 20
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  • says, "So the man gave names
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  • to all the livestock,
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  • the birds of the air,
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  • the beasts of the field,
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  • but for Adam, no suitable helper
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  • was found.
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  • For this reason, a man
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  • will leave his father
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  • and his mother, and be united
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  • to his wife, and they
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  • will become one flesh."
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  • Doesn't say a man is supposed
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  • to leave his father
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  • and his mother and be united
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  • to another man, or a woman
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  • leaves her father and mother
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  • to be united with another woman.
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  • It says very clearly,
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  • explicitly, "A man leaves
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  • his father and his mother
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  • to be united to a woman," right?
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  • And so it's very clear
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  • in Scripture.
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  • And then it says
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  • in Genesis 19, verse 7,
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  • this the famous Scripture
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  • about Sodom and Gomorrah.
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  • Many of you know that Scripture,
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  • that's where God brought
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  • judgment on the whole town.
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  • Not because of homosexuality
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  • by the way, it was rampant
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  • of all types of sins.
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  • Okay?
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  • And so it says in Genesis 19:7,
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  • "They called to Lot,
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  • "Where are the men who came
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  • to you tonight.
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  • Bring them out to us so that we
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  • can have sex with them.'
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  • Lot went outside to meet them
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  • and shut the door
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  • behind them and said,
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  • "No, my friends.
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  • Don't do this wicked thing.'"
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  • It says it was wicked.
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  • So it does call homosexuality,
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  • which is what they were trying
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  • to do at this point,
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  • and he says, "That is wicked."
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  • Wicked just means sinful.
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  • So he's saying that's wrong.
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  • And Jude 1:7 says
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  • in a similar way,
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  • "Sodom and Gomorrah,
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  • and the surrounding towns
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  • gave themselves up
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  • to sexual immorality
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  • and perversion."
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  • And there were
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  • all kinds of sexual immorality
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  • and perversion going on.
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  • And so, number three:
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  • homosexuality, the act of it,
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  • is a sin.
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  • So it is very clear in the Bible
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  • that the act of homosexuality
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  • actually is a sin.
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  • Now, before you get all fired up
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  • and excited about that,
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  • let me show you another verse.
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  • In fact, I want to show you
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  • the most popular misquoted verse
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  • on homosexuality
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  • in all the Bible, and see
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  • if you do not find yourself
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  • in this verse.
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  • Listen very carefully.
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  • Here's the verse.
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  • "Do you not know
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  • that the wicked will not inherit
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  • the kingdom of God?
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  • Do not be deceived.
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  • Neither the sexually immoral,"
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  • that means anyone who slept
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  • with their girlfriend
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  • or boyfriend
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  • before they got married,
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  • that means if you're
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  • living together now with someone
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  • of the opposite sex
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  • and you're not married,
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  • that means if you were
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  • messing around when you are
  • 00:08:03.250 --> 00:08:05.010
  • in college or high school
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  • with your boyfriend
  • 00:08:05.210 --> 00:08:06.060
  • or girlfriend and you weren't
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  • married.
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  • So, anyone not covered yet?
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  • Okay, let's go on.
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  • It says, "Nor the idolaters."
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  • Idolatry means anything you put
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  • in front of God.
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  • Have you ever loved something
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  • more than God?
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  • Have you ever spent
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  • the tithe money on yourself
  • 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:24.150
  • rather than bringing it to God?
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  • That's idolatry.
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  • Anyone not covered yet?
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  • Goes on to say this.
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  • It says, "Nor adulterers
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  • nor male prostitutes,
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  • nor homosexual offenders,
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  • nor thieves," ever stole
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  • anything?
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  • Come on, let's be honest.
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  • When was the last time you
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  • watched YouTube?
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  • Did you watch it at work?
  • 00:08:40.230 --> 00:08:41.150
  • That was stealing time.
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  • "Nor drunkards."
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  • You ever drink too much?
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  • "Nor slanderers."
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  • You ever talk bad
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  • about someone else?
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  • "Nor swindlers will inherit
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  • the kingdom of God."
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  • Is there anyone that's
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  • not covered in this verse?
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  • And the reason I want
  • 00:08:57.070 --> 00:08:57.220
  • to point this out is this,
  • 00:08:57.220 --> 00:08:58.170
  • number four: homosexuality
  • 00:08:58.170 --> 00:09:00.190
  • is not a greater sin
  • 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:02.150
  • than others.
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  • It is simply one of many sins
  • 00:09:03.040 --> 00:09:05.170
  • that are contrary
  • 00:09:05.170 --> 00:09:06.050
  • to God's Word.
  • 00:09:06.050 --> 00:09:07.180
  • So we're not trying to say
  • 00:09:07.180 --> 00:09:08.050
  • it's not a sin,
  • 00:09:08.050 --> 00:09:08.280
  • but we're also saying it's
  • 00:09:08.280 --> 00:09:09.190
  • just one of many.
  • 00:09:09.190 --> 00:09:11.040
  • Now, probably
  • 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:11.280
  • the most controversial thing
  • 00:09:11.280 --> 00:09:13.130
  • I'm going to say all day
  • 00:09:13.130 --> 00:09:15.010
  • is the next Scripture, okay?
  • 00:09:15.010 --> 00:09:16.210
  • So I haven't you offended you
  • 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:17.170
  • yet, check this one out.
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  • This will do it.
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  • Okay.
  • 00:09:19.130 --> 00:09:20.220
  • Romans 1:25, it says, "They
  • 00:09:20.220 --> 00:09:23.030
  • exchange the truth about God
  • 00:09:23.030 --> 00:09:24.080
  • for a lie and worshipped
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  • and served created things
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  • rather the creator,
  • 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:27.180
  • who is forever praised."
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  • Amen.
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  • "Because of this, God gave them
  • 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:31.010
  • over to shameful lust,
  • 00:09:31.010 --> 00:09:32.020
  • even their women exchanged
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  • natural sexual relations
  • 00:09:33.270 --> 00:09:35.010
  • for unnatural ones,
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  • in the same way that men
  • 00:09:35.280 --> 00:09:37.000
  • also abandoned natural relations
  • 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:38.280
  • with women, and were enflamed
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  • with lust for one another.
  • 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:41.280
  • Men committed shameful acts
  • 00:09:41.280 --> 00:09:43.090
  • with other men, and received
  • 00:09:43.090 --> 00:09:44.110
  • in themselves the due penalty
  • 00:09:44.110 --> 00:09:45.140
  • for their error."
  • 00:09:45.140 --> 00:09:47.030
  • And so, in the Scripture it says
  • 00:09:47.030 --> 00:09:48.040
  • that, "Women exchanged
  • 00:09:48.040 --> 00:09:49.240
  • natural relations
  • 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:50.140
  • for unnatural ones."
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  • Women were saying
  • 00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:52.220
  • "Instead of being a man,
  • 00:09:52.220 --> 00:09:53.180
  • I'm going to be with a woman."
  • 00:09:53.180 --> 00:09:54.120
  • "Men were abandoning."
  • 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.010
  • "Rather than being with women,
  • 00:09:56.010 --> 00:09:56.270
  • I'm going to be
  • 00:09:56.270 --> 00:09:57.120
  • with another man."
  • 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:58.090
  • "To exchange" and "to abandon"
  • 00:09:58.090 --> 00:10:00.170
  • tells me something.
  • 00:10:00.170 --> 00:10:01.120
  • Number five:
  • 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:02.010
  • you actually have a choice.
  • 00:10:02.010 --> 00:10:04.240
  • And the reason
  • 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:05.160
  • I want to bring this up
  • 00:10:05.160 --> 00:10:06.050
  • is because people are commonly
  • 00:10:06.050 --> 00:10:07.150
  • now saying, "Well, I was born
  • 00:10:07.150 --> 00:10:09.120
  • that way.
  • 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:10.150
  • I have no choice.
  • 00:10:10.150 --> 00:10:12.200
  • I have no option.
  • 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:13.280
  • I'm just gay.
  • 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:14.270
  • God made me that way."
  • 00:10:14.270 --> 00:10:16.170
  • First of all, God did not make
  • 00:10:16.170 --> 00:10:18.090
  • you into a way that he says
  • 00:10:18.090 --> 00:10:20.020
  • is wrong.
  • 00:10:20.020 --> 00:10:20.230
  • God does not do that.
  • 00:10:20.230 --> 00:10:21.240
  • But we are all marred by sin.
  • 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.090
  • Remember we talked
  • 00:10:24.090 --> 00:10:24.240
  • about last week how there's sin
  • 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.060
  • in all of us now
  • 00:10:26.060 --> 00:10:26.290
  • because of Adam and Eve, right?
  • 00:10:26.290 --> 00:10:28.120
  • And so, even if you were born
  • 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.270
  • that way, which I don't believe
  • 00:10:30.270 --> 00:10:32.180
  • is the case, but even if I am
  • 00:10:32.180 --> 00:10:34.140
  • one day proven wrong
  • 00:10:34.140 --> 00:10:35.230
  • scientifically that people are
  • 00:10:35.230 --> 00:10:37.090
  • born gay, I would say, "Okay.
  • 00:10:37.090 --> 00:10:39.150
  • What about the person who's
  • 00:10:39.150 --> 00:10:40.140
  • born violent?"
  • 00:10:40.140 --> 00:10:42.190
  • You ever notice the one
  • 00:10:42.190 --> 00:10:43.040
  • that was violent all the time?
  • 00:10:43.040 --> 00:10:44.040
  • It was their natural way
  • 00:10:44.040 --> 00:10:44.230
  • to scream, and yell, and push
  • 00:10:44.230 --> 00:10:45.250
  • people?
  • 00:10:45.250 --> 00:10:47.110
  • So if you can be born addicted,
  • 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:49.230
  • meaning that you're born
  • 00:10:49.230 --> 00:10:50.170
  • easily addicted to something,
  • 00:10:50.170 --> 00:10:52.070
  • and then you can be born angry,
  • 00:10:52.070 --> 00:10:54.180
  • then you can be, you know,
  • 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:56.020
  • born violent, and you can
  • 00:10:56.020 --> 00:10:57.180
  • probably be born gay,
  • 00:10:57.180 --> 00:11:00.180
  • which just means you have
  • 00:11:00.180 --> 00:11:01.120
  • a proclivity towards it,
  • 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:02.220
  • but you still have a choice
  • 00:11:02.220 --> 00:11:03.240
  • whether you do it.
  • 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:04.240
  • Just because you were born
  • 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:05.160
  • violent, you still have a choice
  • 00:11:05.160 --> 00:11:06.080
  • whether you're going
  • 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:06.230
  • to be violent or not.
  • 00:11:06.230 --> 00:11:07.110
  • You can still decide
  • 00:11:07.110 --> 00:11:08.110
  • to calm down and not lose
  • 00:11:08.110 --> 00:11:09.120
  • your temper.
  • 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:10.220
  • Look what Sam Allberry wrote
  • 00:11:10.220 --> 00:11:12.050
  • in this book.
  • 00:11:12.050 --> 00:11:12.280
  • There's a great book out
  • 00:11:12.280 --> 00:11:13.230
  • called, "Is God Anti-Gay?"
  • 00:11:13.230 --> 00:11:15.230
  • It's a great read.
  • 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:16.240
  • It's by a guy named
  • 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:17.180
  • Sam Allberry,
  • 00:11:17.180 --> 00:11:18.090
  • who struggles with what he calls
  • 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:19.080
  • same sex attraction.
  • 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.030
  • He says, "Every Christian is
  • 00:11:21.030 --> 00:11:22.030
  • called to constantly sacrifice.
  • 00:11:22.030 --> 00:11:23.270
  • Denying yourself does not mean
  • 00:11:23.270 --> 00:11:24.280
  • tweaking your behavior here
  • 00:11:24.280 --> 00:11:26.210
  • and there.
  • 00:11:26.210 --> 00:11:27.090
  • It is saying no
  • 00:11:27.090 --> 00:11:28.060
  • to your deepest sense
  • 00:11:28.060 --> 00:11:29.130
  • of who you are for the sake
  • 00:11:29.130 --> 00:11:31.020
  • of Christ.
  • 00:11:31.020 --> 00:11:31.190
  • To take up a cross,
  • 00:11:31.190 --> 00:11:32.280
  • is to declare your life,
  • 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:34.070
  • as you known it.
  • 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:35.190
  • Forfeit."
  • 00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:37.150
  • Wow.
  • 00:11:37.150 --> 00:11:38.160
  • So just because it seems
  • 00:11:38.160 --> 00:11:39.070
  • natural, doesn't means
  • 00:11:39.070 --> 00:11:40.080
  • it's right.
  • 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:41.180
  • God still has a standard
  • 00:11:41.180 --> 00:11:42.150
  • for all of us.
  • 00:11:42.150 --> 00:11:43.070
  • But you know what?
  • 00:11:43.070 --> 00:11:43.270
  • I can say this all day long,
  • 00:11:43.270 --> 00:11:45.050
  • and it's frankly
  • 00:11:45.050 --> 00:11:45.280
  • not that credible because
  • 00:11:45.280 --> 00:11:47.040
  • I don't struggle with it.
  • 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:48.040
  • I'll be honest with you,
  • 00:11:48.040 --> 00:11:49.030
  • but I want you to watch a video
  • 00:11:49.030 --> 00:11:50.050
  • from a very good friend of mine,
  • 00:11:50.050 --> 00:11:52.090
  • godly man, great guy,
  • 00:11:52.090 --> 00:11:53.240
  • who struggles
  • 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:54.090
  • with same sex attraction.
  • 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:55.200
  • - Daniel Guerra: My name is
  • 00:11:58.130 --> 00:11:59.000
  • Daniel Guerra,
  • 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:59.240
  • and about two and a half years
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  • ago, I came out of living
  • 00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:05.270
  • a very explicit,
  • 00:12:05.270 --> 00:12:07.040
  • immoral lifestyle of practicing
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  • homosexuality.
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  • - Pastor Bil: You know
  • 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:12.250
  • Daniel, it's great
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  • to, first of all, just to have
  • 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:15.100
  • you here, man, because you're
  • 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:16.060
  • my friend and I love you
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  • and it's so good to see you
  • 00:12:17.090 --> 00:12:18.050
  • again, you know?
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  • Your story is amazing,
  • 00:12:19.140 --> 00:12:20.270
  • and I want to let you tell it.
  • 00:12:20.270 --> 00:12:23.160
  • What was the difference
  • 00:12:23.160 --> 00:12:24.230
  • this time?
  • 00:12:24.230 --> 00:12:26.230
  • - Daniel: I think what made it
  • 00:12:26.230 --> 00:12:28.240
  • a huge difference in my life,
  • 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.120
  • was discovering that there was
  • 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:31.280
  • a church that partnered
  • 00:12:31.280 --> 00:12:34.140
  • alongside me.
  • 00:12:34.140 --> 00:12:35.280
  • Every church that I had been
  • 00:12:35.280 --> 00:12:36.220
  • a part of, they tried
  • 00:12:36.220 --> 00:12:38.100
  • to deliver me of something.
  • 00:12:38.100 --> 00:12:40.100
  • They made me out to believe
  • 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:41.050
  • there was something wrong
  • 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:42.090
  • with me because I had
  • 00:12:42.090 --> 00:12:43.170
  • this attraction.
  • 00:12:43.170 --> 00:12:44.260
  • So I lived my entire life
  • 00:12:44.260 --> 00:12:46.100
  • as a Christian, trying to solve
  • 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:48.080
  • my problem, without keeping
  • 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.040
  • my eyes on the problem solver.
  • 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.080
  • I didn't want people to know
  • 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:54.080
  • that I was gay.
  • 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:55.090
  • I wanted people to know
  • 00:12:55.090 --> 00:12:55.280
  • that I was now serving Jesus.
  • 00:12:55.280 --> 00:12:58.070
  • And the more I kept my eyes
  • 00:12:58.070 --> 00:12:59.220
  • and focus on Jesus,
  • 00:12:59.220 --> 00:13:01.080
  • certain things just started
  • 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:02.220
  • changing in my life,
  • 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:04.160
  • and things that I would have
  • 00:13:04.160 --> 00:13:05.260
  • typically done in my past,
  • 00:13:07.230 --> 00:13:10.230
  • I no longer had desire to do.
  • 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:12.230
  • - Pastor Bil: You know,
  • 00:13:12.230 --> 00:13:14.040
  • it's so cool too because,
  • 00:13:14.040 --> 00:13:15.160
  • you know, I happen to have
  • 00:13:15.160 --> 00:13:17.010
  • some insights on you,
  • 00:13:17.010 --> 00:13:18.100
  • so I'm going to tell on you
  • 00:13:18.100 --> 00:13:19.090
  • a little bit here that it was
  • 00:13:19.090 --> 00:13:21.240
  • really fun, to hear you
  • 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.010
  • kind of come over and elbow me
  • 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:24.010
  • a couple of times,
  • 00:13:24.010 --> 00:13:24.250
  • and be like, "Hey, there's
  • 00:13:24.250 --> 00:13:26.010
  • a girl I just met.
  • 00:13:26.010 --> 00:13:27.100
  • I'm chasing after her,"
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  • and I'm like, "Really?"
  • 00:13:28.110 --> 00:13:29.260
  • Yeah, I just want to speak
  • 00:13:29.260 --> 00:13:30.120
  • to that for a moment,
  • 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:31.110
  • because I think people are
  • 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:33.010
  • curious of that.
  • 00:13:33.010 --> 00:13:34.180
  • You know, because we all are
  • 00:13:34.180 --> 00:13:35.080
  • like, "How does that work?
  • 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:36.270
  • - Daniel: It's not normal
  • 00:13:36.270 --> 00:13:38.000
  • for me to be attracted
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  • to a girl.
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  • It's not my natural,
  • 00:13:41.010 --> 00:13:42.230
  • normal instincts.
  • 00:13:42.230 --> 00:13:44.010
  • Whereas, if I was
  • 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:45.050
  • naturally straight, if a girl--
  • 00:13:45.050 --> 00:13:47.180
  • hot girl would walk in the room,
  • 00:13:47.180 --> 00:13:48.200
  • I'd be like, "Dang," you know,
  • 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:49.260
  • "check her out."
  • 00:13:49.260 --> 00:13:51.030
  • I know that ever since I can
  • 00:13:51.030 --> 00:13:52.060
  • remember, I've always been
  • 00:13:52.060 --> 00:13:54.090
  • attracted to the same gender,
  • 00:13:54.090 --> 00:13:56.150
  • and it doesn't go away.
  • 00:13:56.150 --> 00:13:58.280
  • But I am under the impression,
  • 00:13:58.280 --> 00:14:01.000
  • now in my life, my attraction
  • 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.180
  • to a female is derived
  • 00:14:03.180 --> 00:14:06.090
  • by their passion for the Lord.
  • 00:14:06.090 --> 00:14:08.200
  • If they have a heart for God,
  • 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.030
  • if they're sincere and authentic
  • 00:14:10.030 --> 00:14:12.090
  • in their drive
  • 00:14:12.090 --> 00:14:13.220
  • for the local church, man,
  • 00:14:13.220 --> 00:14:16.160
  • I'm attracted to that.
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  • I'm not drinking
  • 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:18.050
  • a miracle Kool-Aid
  • 00:14:18.050 --> 00:14:19.040
  • or anything like that
  • 00:14:19.040 --> 00:14:20.080
  • but what I'm pushing towards,
  • 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.090
  • what I'm moving towards,
  • 00:14:22.090 --> 00:14:23.110
  • I believe I'm going
  • 00:14:23.110 --> 00:14:24.040
  • to get there, if I just continue
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  • to sacrifice the things
  • 00:14:25.100 --> 00:14:26.100
  • that I love or seem normal
  • 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.010
  • to me now.
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  • I'm going to get there.
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  • - Pastor Bil: That's so cool.
  • 00:14:31.010 --> 00:14:31.250
  • I can't wait to see that.
  • 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:33.030
  • I'll be happy for you
  • 00:14:33.030 --> 00:14:34.120
  • like I'm happy for you now.
  • 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:35.270
  • And Daniel, you're
  • 00:14:35.270 --> 00:14:37.010
  • just such a great success story,
  • 00:14:37.010 --> 00:14:39.140
  • not because you went
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  • from one sexual orientation
  • 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:45.060
  • to another.
  • 00:14:45.060 --> 00:14:45.290
  • You're a success story because
  • 00:14:45.290 --> 00:14:47.090
  • you went from one broken person
  • 00:14:47.090 --> 00:14:48.230
  • to someone who is fulfilled
  • 00:14:48.230 --> 00:14:50.090
  • in Christ.
  • 00:14:50.090 --> 00:14:51.040
  • - Daniel: Yeah, the opposite
  • 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:52.090
  • of homosexuality isn't
  • 00:14:52.090 --> 00:14:55.010
  • heterosexuality.
  • 00:14:55.010 --> 00:14:56.230
  • The opposite of homosexuality
  • 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:58.270
  • - Pastor Bil: Wow, I love that.
  • 00:15:04.070 --> 00:15:07.070
  • "The opposite of homosexuality
  • 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:08.130
  • is holiness."
  • 00:15:08.130 --> 00:15:10.220
  • And it's really true.
  • 00:15:10.220 --> 00:15:11.170
  • And actually, Daniel is
  • 00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:12.290
  • now called Pastor Daniel.
  • 00:15:12.290 --> 00:15:14.200
  • He was on staff at our church
  • 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.040
  • for a while, and now he's
  • 00:15:16.040 --> 00:15:18.030
  • on staff at a great church
  • 00:15:18.030 --> 00:15:19.010
  • down the street, good friends
  • 00:15:19.010 --> 00:15:20.030
  • of ours, and doing a great,
  • 00:15:20.030 --> 00:15:21.160
  • great job.
  • 00:15:21.160 --> 00:15:22.160
  • And he's such an example.
  • 00:15:22.160 --> 00:15:23.140
  • So let's answer
  • 00:15:23.140 --> 00:15:23.290
  • a couple other questions
  • 00:15:23.290 --> 00:15:24.260
  • that people have
  • 00:15:24.260 --> 00:15:25.200
  • about homosexuality.
  • 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.020
  • These are
  • 00:15:27.020 --> 00:15:27.170
  • just kind of side questions
  • 00:15:27.170 --> 00:15:29.190
  • that come up with this issue.
  • 00:15:29.190 --> 00:15:31.200
  • Here's a question I get a lot,
  • 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:32.270
  • "Does God support
  • 00:15:32.270 --> 00:15:33.240
  • gay marriage?"
  • 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:34.290
  • The answer is, "No."
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  • Marriage by definition is
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  • between a man and a woman.
  • 00:15:37.110 --> 00:15:38.160
  • Here is the very definition
  • 00:15:38.160 --> 00:15:39.120
  • of marriage, found
  • 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:40.170
  • in Genesis chapter 2.
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  • This is the original definition
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  • because this is
  • 00:15:42.210 --> 00:15:43.150
  • the original part of history.
  • 00:15:43.150 --> 00:15:45.050
  • In other words,
  • 00:15:45.050 --> 00:15:45.200
  • like Genesis 1 and 2 is
  • 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:46.250
  • when God created
  • 00:15:46.250 --> 00:15:47.170
  • the whole world.
  • 00:15:47.170 --> 00:15:48.080
  • So there is no prior definition
  • 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.130
  • to this one.no prior definition
  • 00:15:50.130 --> 00:15:51.080
  • This is the original one.
  • 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:52.160
  • It says, "'At last!' the man
  • 00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:53.150
  • exclaimed.
  • 00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:54.020
  • 'This one is bone from my bone,
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:55.150
  • the flesh from my flesh.
  • 00:15:55.150 --> 00:15:56.120
  • She will be called woman
  • 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.190
  • because she was taken from man.'
  • 00:15:57.190 --> 00:15:59.000
  • This is explains why a man
  • 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:00.020
  • leaves his father
  • 00:16:00.020 --> 00:16:00.280
  • and his mother, and he's joined
  • 00:16:00.280 --> 00:16:01.260
  • to his wife and the two are
  • 00:16:01.260 --> 00:16:02.280
  • united into one.
  • 00:16:02.280 --> 00:16:03.280
  • Now the man and his wife were
  • 00:16:03.280 --> 00:16:04.250
  • both naked and felt no shame."
  • 00:16:04.250 --> 00:16:06.250
  • The reason we include
  • 00:16:06.250 --> 00:16:07.170
  • that part of the Scripture is
  • 00:16:07.170 --> 00:16:08.050
  • because you need
  • 00:16:08.050 --> 00:16:08.180
  • to understand this was
  • 00:16:08.180 --> 00:16:09.030
  • a sexual relationship too.
  • 00:16:09.030 --> 00:16:10.240
  • And so,
  • 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.100
  • but the original definition
  • 00:16:11.100 --> 00:16:12.050
  • of marriage is between a man
  • 00:16:12.050 --> 00:16:13.190
  • and a woman.
  • 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:14.140
  • Okay, another part
  • 00:16:14.140 --> 00:16:15.230
  • of the Scripture talks about
  • 00:16:15.230 --> 00:16:16.140
  • how they did what?
  • 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:17.170
  • They multiplied.
  • 00:16:17.170 --> 00:16:18.080
  • They had babies.
  • 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.020
  • Not even possible unless you are
  • 00:16:19.020 --> 00:16:20.290
  • with someone
  • 00:16:20.290 --> 00:16:21.160
  • of the opposite sex.
  • 00:16:21.160 --> 00:16:22.110
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:23.080
  • The Bible created
  • 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.180
  • the word marriage,
  • 00:16:24.180 --> 00:16:25.190
  • and so I would ask
  • 00:16:25.190 --> 00:16:26.220
  • since God defined
  • 00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:27.180
  • the word marriage, for you not
  • 00:16:27.180 --> 00:16:28.290
  • to redefine the word marriage.
  • 00:16:28.290 --> 00:16:31.040
  • Having said that, do I believe
  • 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:32.220
  • it should be illegal for you
  • 00:16:32.220 --> 00:16:34.060
  • to have a civil union?
  • 00:16:34.060 --> 00:16:35.090
  • No, I don't.
  • 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:36.080
  • Just because I don't agree
  • 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:36.270
  • with it, doesn't mean
  • 00:16:36.270 --> 00:16:37.120
  • I don't think you should have
  • 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:38.000
  • the right for it.
  • 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:39.100
  • I'm not going to stand
  • 00:16:39.100 --> 00:16:40.010
  • in the way of you
  • 00:16:40.010 --> 00:16:40.220
  • legally wanting to, you know,
  • 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:43.000
  • to have a partner
  • 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:44.010
  • with the same benefits
  • 00:16:44.010 --> 00:16:46.020
  • that I have of being married
  • 00:16:46.020 --> 00:16:47.090
  • to my wife.
  • 00:16:47.090 --> 00:16:48.030
  • I just prefer you not to use
  • 00:16:48.030 --> 00:16:48.290
  • the word marriage,
  • 00:16:48.290 --> 00:16:49.210
  • because God created that word,
  • 00:16:49.210 --> 00:16:50.220
  • and so I don't like it
  • 00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:51.220
  • being redefined.
  • 00:16:51.220 --> 00:16:53.020
  • And I know some people
  • 00:16:53.020 --> 00:16:53.170
  • may disagree with me on that,
  • 00:16:53.170 --> 00:16:54.050
  • and that's okay.
  • 00:16:54.050 --> 00:16:54.200
  • And then there's
  • 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:55.050
  • some Christians that are
  • 00:16:55.050 --> 00:16:55.200
  • even mad at me for saying that,
  • 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:56.260
  • and thinking, "I can't believe
  • 00:16:56.260 --> 00:16:57.200
  • you're saying civil unions are
  • 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:58.150
  • okay."
  • 00:16:58.150 --> 00:16:59.000
  • I didn't say they're okay.
  • 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:59.220
  • I said I think we could't make
  • 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:01.040
  • them illegal, so I hope that
  • 00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:02.270
  • makes sense to you.
  • 00:17:02.270 --> 00:17:03.120
  • Okay, so here's
  • 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.070
  • a couple other questions
  • 00:17:04.070 --> 00:17:04.280
  • that we get a lot too,
  • 00:17:04.280 --> 00:17:06.060
  • "What does God say about
  • 00:17:06.060 --> 00:17:07.040
  • changing gender identities?"
  • 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:08.240
  • This is a very popular thing
  • 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.020
  • to do nowadays.
  • 00:17:10.020 --> 00:17:11.170
  • It says is Genesis 1:27,
  • 00:17:11.170 --> 00:17:13.080
  • "So God created human beings
  • 00:17:13.080 --> 00:17:14.090
  • in his own image.
  • 00:17:14.090 --> 00:17:15.180
  • In the image of God he created
  • 00:17:15.180 --> 00:17:16.230
  • the male and female.
  • 00:17:16.230 --> 00:17:18.030
  • He created them.
  • 00:17:18.030 --> 00:17:18.280
  • Then God blessed them and said,
  • 00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:20.030
  • "Be fruitful, multiply.
  • 00:17:20.030 --> 00:17:21.040
  • Fill the earth and govern it.'"
  • 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:22.090
  • And Genesis 1:31 says,
  • 00:17:22.090 --> 00:17:23.270
  • "Then God looked over
  • 00:17:23.270 --> 00:17:24.200
  • all he had made and he saw
  • 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:25.240
  • that it was very good."
  • 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:26.230
  • Number one on this one: to say
  • 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:28.090
  • that gender does not matter,
  • 00:17:28.090 --> 00:17:29.100
  • is to disagree
  • 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:30.020
  • with God's design for creation
  • 00:17:30.020 --> 00:17:31.220
  • and its proclamation and it was
  • 00:17:31.220 --> 00:17:33.040
  • very good.
  • 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:34.040
  • So I just want to tell you
  • 00:17:34.040 --> 00:17:34.260
  • that you don't need
  • 00:17:34.260 --> 00:17:35.220
  • to have a sex change
  • 00:17:35.220 --> 00:17:36.270
  • because God already says you're
  • 00:17:36.270 --> 00:17:38.020
  • good like you are.
  • 00:17:38.020 --> 00:17:39.250
  • The way he made you,
  • 00:17:39.250 --> 00:17:40.220
  • you're already good.
  • 00:17:40.220 --> 00:17:42.140
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:43.290
  • And so you don't need
  • 00:17:43.290 --> 00:17:44.150
  • to do this.
  • 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:45.000
  • In fact, actually, statistics
  • 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.000
  • now bear this out, scientists
  • 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.250
  • as well as psychiatrists,
  • 00:17:49.250 --> 00:17:51.130
  • and psychologists,
  • 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:52.080
  • have now discovered that people
  • 00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:53.060
  • that get a sex change,
  • 00:17:53.060 --> 00:17:54.030
  • because they're trying
  • 00:17:54.030 --> 00:17:55.000
  • to make themselves happy,
  • 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.000
  • actually, the moment they have
  • 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:57.150
  • the sex changes,
  • 00:17:57.150 --> 00:17:58.030
  • their rate of suicide
  • 00:17:58.030 --> 00:17:59.210
  • skyrockets, because they
  • 00:17:59.210 --> 00:18:01.170
  • discover it doesn't
  • 00:18:01.170 --> 00:18:02.120
  • make them happy.
  • 00:18:02.120 --> 00:18:04.070
  • It actually is not going to do
  • 00:18:04.070 --> 00:18:05.060
  • what you think it's going
  • 00:18:05.060 --> 00:18:05.280
  • to do for you.
  • 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:07.020
  • It does not make things better.
  • 00:18:07.020 --> 00:18:08.040
  • It makes things worse, 'cause
  • 00:18:08.040 --> 00:18:10.080
  • then you're even more confused
  • 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:11.000
  • on who you are.
  • 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.190
  • It says in Deuteronomy 22:5,
  • 00:18:12.190 --> 00:18:14.060
  • another verse, kind of relates
  • 00:18:14.060 --> 00:18:15.150
  • this similar issue.
  • 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:16.200
  • It says, "A woman must not
  • 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:17.180
  • wear a man's clothing,
  • 00:18:17.180 --> 00:18:18.140
  • nor a man wear
  • 00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:19.070
  • a woman's clothing.
  • 00:18:19.070 --> 00:18:20.000
  • This kind of thing is
  • 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:20.210
  • an abomination to God,
  • 00:18:20.210 --> 00:18:21.210
  • your God."
  • 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:22.060
  • Number two, God also does want
  • 00:18:22.060 --> 00:18:23.190
  • us to cross dress,
  • 00:18:23.190 --> 00:18:25.060
  • but instead to be comfortable
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:27.070
  • the sex that you made you.
  • 00:18:27.070 --> 00:18:28.260
  • And so that's also something
  • 00:18:28.260 --> 00:18:29.250
  • that God is not wanting us
  • 00:18:29.250 --> 00:18:31.150
  • to do.
  • 00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:32.000
  • And in 2 Corinthians 5:17,
  • 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.140
  • it says, "So if anyone is
  • 00:18:33.140 --> 00:18:35.040
  • in Christ, there is
  • 00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:36.030
  • a new creation.
  • 00:18:36.030 --> 00:18:36.220
  • Everything old that's past,
  • 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:37.250
  • see everything
  • 00:18:37.250 --> 00:18:38.160
  • that has become new."
  • 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:39.080
  • Number three is: when you come
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:40.030
  • to Christ, you were given
  • 00:18:40.030 --> 00:18:40.250
  • a new identity,
  • 00:18:40.250 --> 00:18:42.280
  • but the new identity
  • 00:18:42.280 --> 00:18:43.140
  • that you need is not
  • 00:18:43.140 --> 00:18:44.050
  • a sex change.
  • 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:44.260
  • The new identity you need is
  • 00:18:44.260 --> 00:18:45.180
  • to know who you are in Christ.
  • 00:18:45.180 --> 00:18:48.050
  • And so, but we're all given
  • 00:18:48.050 --> 00:18:49.070
  • a new identity in Christ.
  • 00:18:49.070 --> 00:18:51.200
  • And here's
  • 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:52.050
  • another common question
  • 00:18:52.050 --> 00:18:53.000
  • that we get asked a lot,
  • 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:53.200
  • "Are people who believe
  • 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:54.230
  • the Bible homophobic or bigots?"
  • 00:18:54.250 --> 00:18:57.250
  • Has nothing to do with that.
  • 00:18:57.250 --> 00:18:58.200
  • In fact, look
  • 00:18:58.200 --> 00:18:59.080
  • at Leviticus 18:26.
  • 00:18:59.080 --> 00:19:00.260
  • This gives us the reason.
  • 00:19:00.260 --> 00:19:01.250
  • It says, "You must obey
  • 00:19:01.250 --> 00:19:02.160
  • all my decrees and regulations.
  • 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:04.040
  • You must not commit
  • 00:19:04.040 --> 00:19:04.230
  • any of these detestable sins.
  • 00:19:04.230 --> 00:19:07.000
  • This applies both
  • 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:07.240
  • to native born Israelites
  • 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:08.220
  • and to the foreigners
  • 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:09.150
  • living among you."
  • 00:19:09.150 --> 00:19:10.040
  • When it says detestable sins,
  • 00:19:10.040 --> 00:19:11.140
  • it's not referring
  • 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:11.290
  • to just homosexuality.
  • 00:19:11.290 --> 00:19:12.250
  • It's referring to anything
  • 00:19:12.250 --> 00:19:13.200
  • that doesn't honor God,
  • 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.100
  • is detestable to God.
  • 00:19:15.100 --> 00:19:16.140
  • So the answer is this,
  • 00:19:16.140 --> 00:19:17.160
  • "There's a difference
  • 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:18.050
  • between moral conviction
  • 00:19:18.050 --> 00:19:19.060
  • and prejudice."
  • 00:19:19.060 --> 00:19:21.010
  • God doesn't want anyone to be
  • 00:19:21.010 --> 00:19:21.240
  • prejudiced, but I'm
  • 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:22.140
  • not prejudice against you
  • 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:23.250
  • just because I have
  • 00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:24.120
  • a different moral conviction
  • 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:25.120
  • than you.
  • 00:19:25.120 --> 00:19:26.140
  • Does that make sense?
  • 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:28.000
  • I mean, if you were to call me
  • 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:29.040
  • a homophobic because I call
  • 00:19:29.040 --> 00:19:30.070
  • homosexuality a sin,
  • 00:19:30.070 --> 00:19:31.120
  • then I guess I'm also
  • 00:19:31.120 --> 00:19:31.270
  • heterophobic, because I would
  • 00:19:31.270 --> 00:19:33.100
  • also say if you're
  • 00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:34.040
  • living together
  • 00:19:34.040 --> 00:19:34.220
  • with your boyfriend
  • 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:35.070
  • or girlfriend, and you're not
  • 00:19:35.070 --> 00:19:35.250
  • married, that's also sinful.
  • 00:19:35.250 --> 00:19:38.160
  • So am I a heterophobe?
  • 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.150
  • Now, there are some gay people
  • 00:19:40.150 --> 00:19:42.100
  • who would say, "Now, hold on,
  • 00:19:42.100 --> 00:19:43.160
  • Pastor, Leviticus also talks
  • 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:45.150
  • about all kinds of other laws
  • 00:19:45.150 --> 00:19:46.210
  • like don't get tattoos,
  • 00:19:46.210 --> 00:19:48.100
  • don't mix
  • 00:19:48.100 --> 00:19:49.120
  • your vegetable garden
  • 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:50.110
  • with different vegetables."
  • 00:19:50.110 --> 00:19:51.250
  • Okay, you're right.
  • 00:19:51.250 --> 00:19:52.100
  • It does say
  • 00:19:52.100 --> 00:19:53.020
  • some of those things.
  • 00:19:53.020 --> 00:19:53.230
  • What you're confusing though,
  • 00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:55.070
  • is what's called moral law
  • 00:19:55.070 --> 00:19:57.100
  • versus Jewish cultural law.
  • 00:19:57.100 --> 00:19:59.070
  • And there are
  • 00:19:59.070 --> 00:19:59.220
  • some Jewish cultural laws
  • 00:19:59.220 --> 00:20:01.080
  • that don't apply anymore,
  • 00:20:01.080 --> 00:20:02.220
  • but there's also,
  • 00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:03.280
  • like, for example,
  • 00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:04.270
  • a Jewish cultural law
  • 00:20:04.270 --> 00:20:05.210
  • is that when it's
  • 00:20:05.210 --> 00:20:06.060
  • a woman's time of the month,
  • 00:20:06.060 --> 00:20:07.050
  • she can't go to the church.
  • 00:20:07.050 --> 00:20:07.240
  • Did you know that?
  • 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:08.250
  • Well, we don't do that now
  • 00:20:08.250 --> 00:20:09.140
  • or half of you ladies
  • 00:20:09.140 --> 00:20:10.140
  • would have to leave.
  • 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:11.020
  • Okay, we're not talking
  • 00:20:11.020 --> 00:20:11.170
  • about that.
  • 00:20:11.170 --> 00:20:13.210
  • I don't want to know who,
  • 00:20:13.210 --> 00:20:14.120
  • I just, you know.
  • 00:20:14.120 --> 00:20:16.220
  • There's a difference
  • 00:20:16.220 --> 00:20:17.070
  • between moral conviction
  • 00:20:17.070 --> 00:20:18.220
  • and prejudice.
  • 00:20:18.220 --> 00:20:19.150
  • Now, here's another question
  • 00:20:19.150 --> 00:20:20.020
  • we get, "If gay people want
  • 00:20:20.020 --> 00:20:21.120
  • to get married, isn't it
  • 00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:22.120
  • none of our business?"
  • 00:20:22.120 --> 00:20:24.050
  • Leviticus 18:27 says,
  • 00:20:24.050 --> 00:20:25.090
  • "All these detestable activities
  • 00:20:25.090 --> 00:20:26.260
  • are practiced by the people
  • 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:27.200
  • of the land where I am
  • 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:28.200
  • taking you, and this is
  • 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:29.170
  • how the land has become
  • 00:20:29.170 --> 00:20:30.250
  • defiled."
  • 00:20:30.250 --> 00:20:31.150
  • It's not referring to land
  • 00:20:31.150 --> 00:20:32.140
  • like the physical land, it's
  • 00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:33.200
  • saying the nation has become
  • 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.060
  • defiled because of the practices
  • 00:20:35.060 --> 00:20:38.010
  • of the nation.
  • 00:20:38.010 --> 00:20:39.050
  • Look at Genesis 19:13.
  • 00:20:39.050 --> 00:20:40.210
  • It says, "For we are about
  • 00:20:40.210 --> 00:20:41.170
  • to destroy this city completely.
  • 00:20:41.170 --> 00:20:43.030
  • The outcry against this place is
  • 00:20:43.030 --> 00:20:44.090
  • so great, it has reached
  • 00:20:44.090 --> 00:20:45.080
  • the Lord, and he has sent us
  • 00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:46.110
  • to destroy it."
  • 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:47.020
  • What he was saying was
  • 00:20:47.020 --> 00:20:48.140
  • not that they destroyed Sodom
  • 00:20:48.140 --> 00:20:49.290
  • and Gomorrah in the Scripture
  • 00:20:49.290 --> 00:20:51.030
  • because of homosexuality,
  • 00:20:51.030 --> 00:20:52.070
  • but because of sexuality
  • 00:20:52.070 --> 00:20:53.190
  • in general that was wrong
  • 00:20:53.190 --> 00:20:54.200
  • and unhealthy.
  • 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:55.050
  • So it was
  • 00:20:55.050 --> 00:20:55.200
  • just lots of immorality going on
  • 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.250
  • everywhere, okay?
  • 00:20:56.250 --> 00:20:58.040
  • So this is important
  • 00:20:58.040 --> 00:20:59.090
  • to understand.
  • 00:20:59.090 --> 00:20:59.240
  • Here's the answer.
  • 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:00.200
  • Actually, when sin is sanctioned
  • 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.000
  • by the state, God will bring
  • 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:05.030
  • judgment on the whole state.
  • 00:21:05.030 --> 00:21:08.000
  • Let me explain that.
  • 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.020
  • Okay, it's not
  • 00:21:09.020 --> 00:21:10.140
  • just about homosexual marriage,
  • 00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:13.060
  • but, for example, this is why
  • 00:21:13.060 --> 00:21:15.010
  • I'm also against legalizing
  • 00:21:15.010 --> 00:21:17.130
  • marijuana and other drugs.
  • 00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:19.120
  • It's because now you're
  • 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:20.220
  • sanctioning it, and when you do
  • 00:21:20.220 --> 00:21:22.070
  • that, it brings judgment
  • 00:21:22.070 --> 00:21:23.200
  • on the entire state, city,
  • 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.160
  • or in our case, nation.
  • 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.140
  • And so that, to me,
  • 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:29.180
  • is a problem.
  • 00:21:29.180 --> 00:21:30.190
  • And again, you may say, "Well,
  • 00:21:30.190 --> 00:21:31.110
  • that seems unfair."
  • 00:21:31.110 --> 00:21:32.090
  • Well, I would argue it's unfair
  • 00:21:32.090 --> 00:21:34.060
  • that your decision is going
  • 00:21:34.060 --> 00:21:35.040
  • to bring judgment on me
  • 00:21:35.040 --> 00:21:36.250
  • when I'm not deciding
  • 00:21:36.250 --> 00:21:37.160
  • to do that, whether it's,
  • 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:39.030
  • you know, any kind of immorality
  • 00:21:39.030 --> 00:21:41.010
  • is an issue.
  • 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:42.100
  • So, real quick here,
  • 00:21:42.100 --> 00:21:43.000
  • let me shift gears.
  • 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:43.210
  • What do you if you're struggling
  • 00:21:43.210 --> 00:21:44.160
  • with same sex attraction?
  • 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:45.190
  • Five quick things.
  • 00:21:45.190 --> 00:21:46.060
  • Here is.
  • 00:21:46.060 --> 00:21:46.210
  • Number one:
  • 00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:47.070
  • get professional help.
  • 00:21:47.070 --> 00:21:48.110
  • And when I say get
  • 00:21:48.110 --> 00:21:49.070
  • professional help, let me tell
  • 00:21:49.070 --> 00:21:50.030
  • you the number one thing
  • 00:21:50.030 --> 00:21:51.000
  • I'm asking you
  • 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:51.150
  • to get professional help for.
  • 00:21:51.150 --> 00:21:52.170
  • I'm not actually asking you
  • 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:53.110
  • to get professional help
  • 00:21:53.110 --> 00:21:55.120
  • for being gay.
  • 00:21:55.120 --> 00:21:56.210
  • The number one reason you need
  • 00:21:56.210 --> 00:21:57.250
  • professional help
  • 00:21:57.250 --> 00:21:58.140
  • if you're struggling
  • 00:21:58.140 --> 00:21:58.290
  • with same sex attraction,
  • 00:21:58.290 --> 00:21:59.250
  • is because
  • 00:21:59.250 --> 00:22:00.160
  • of the massive judgment you've
  • 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.010
  • had to face, and rejection
  • 00:22:02.010 --> 00:22:03.180
  • you've had to face.
  • 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:05.160
  • Anyone who faces the kind
  • 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:06.230
  • of rejection that someone had
  • 00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:07.220
  • to deal with when they share
  • 00:22:07.220 --> 00:22:09.070
  • with someone that they struggle
  • 00:22:09.070 --> 00:22:10.190
  • with same sex attraction,
  • 00:22:10.190 --> 00:22:11.260
  • there is so much rejection
  • 00:22:11.260 --> 00:22:13.250
  • that you probably need help
  • 00:22:13.250 --> 00:22:14.250
  • with that.
  • 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:15.130
  • In other words, I'm trying
  • 00:22:15.130 --> 00:22:16.000
  • to say you need counseling
  • 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:16.260
  • from all the Christians
  • 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:17.180
  • who have screwed you up,
  • 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:19.080
  • not because they're gay,
  • 00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:20.050
  • but because they're being
  • 00:22:20.050 --> 00:22:21.000
  • so rejected
  • 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.280
  • by well-meaning people,
  • 00:22:22.280 --> 00:22:24.130
  • who mean well
  • 00:22:24.130 --> 00:22:25.030
  • but have just handled it wrong.
  • 00:22:25.030 --> 00:22:27.020
  • So that's the first reason
  • 00:22:27.020 --> 00:22:27.250
  • to get professional help.
  • 00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:28.260
  • Number two: find
  • 00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:29.220
  • a caring church.
  • 00:22:29.220 --> 00:22:31.140
  • I happen to believe you
  • 00:22:31.140 --> 00:22:32.050
  • found one.
  • 00:22:32.050 --> 00:22:33.250
  • If you're here, we want you
  • 00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:34.250
  • to know, we love you
  • 00:22:34.250 --> 00:22:37.000
  • just like you are.
  • 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.220
  • We're not here judging you.
  • 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:39.270
  • We're not.
  • 00:22:39.270 --> 00:22:41.220
  • That's a big deal.
  • 00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:43.070
  • And so we do believe
  • 00:22:43.070 --> 00:22:44.020
  • what the Word says
  • 00:22:44.020 --> 00:22:44.230
  • and we believe that God has
  • 00:22:44.230 --> 00:22:45.110
  • a better way for you.
  • 00:22:45.110 --> 00:22:46.080
  • And if you don't believe that,
  • 00:22:46.080 --> 00:22:47.160
  • okay, see you next week, and we
  • 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.060
  • hope to see you here anyway.
  • 00:22:49.060 --> 00:22:50.060
  • So number three:
  • 00:22:50.060 --> 00:22:51.090
  • focus on Jesus, and let him
  • 00:22:51.090 --> 00:22:52.170
  • transform you.
  • 00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:53.170
  • The answer is never to focus
  • 00:22:53.170 --> 00:22:54.270
  • on whatever you're
  • 00:22:54.270 --> 00:22:55.240
  • struggling with because if you
  • 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:56.280
  • focus more on that,
  • 00:22:56.280 --> 00:22:57.280
  • you'll do more of it.
  • 00:22:57.280 --> 00:22:59.100
  • Really, sincerely.
  • 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:00.150
  • The answer is not,
  • 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:01.280
  • "I'm gonna not be gay,
  • 00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:03.220
  • not be gay, not be gay."
  • 00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:04.220
  • No, that's not the answer.
  • 00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:05.180
  • And the same way I would say,
  • 00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:06.130
  • whatever else you're struggling
  • 00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:07.090
  • with, "I'm not going to look
  • 00:23:07.090 --> 00:23:08.030
  • at pornography.
  • 00:23:08.030 --> 00:23:08.200
  • I'm not going to look."
  • 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:09.090
  • "I'm not going to go do drugs."
  • 00:23:09.090 --> 00:23:11.090
  • No.
  • 00:23:11.090 --> 00:23:11.240
  • It's like, close your eyes
  • 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:12.160
  • right now and say, "I will not
  • 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:13.260
  • think of the number eight.
  • 00:23:13.260 --> 00:23:15.120
  • I will not think
  • 00:23:15.120 --> 00:23:16.060
  • of the number eight."
  • 00:23:16.060 --> 00:23:17.040
  • And you're going be thinking
  • 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:17.210
  • of number eight the whole time.
  • 00:23:17.210 --> 00:23:20.090
  • The answer is what?
  • 00:23:20.090 --> 00:23:21.050
  • Focus on Jesus, and get more
  • 00:23:21.050 --> 00:23:23.130
  • and more Jesus.
  • 00:23:23.130 --> 00:23:24.100
  • When you filled with Christ,
  • 00:23:24.100 --> 00:23:26.090
  • it crowds out
  • 00:23:26.090 --> 00:23:27.150
  • all of the other areas
  • 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:28.100
  • of your life, and all that stuff
  • 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:29.050
  • just dissipates.
  • 00:23:29.050 --> 00:23:31.080
  • The answer is to get more Jesus,
  • 00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:33.250
  • and then he will change you.
  • 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:36.200
  • That's the answer.
  • 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.260
  • And number four: change
  • 00:23:38.260 --> 00:23:40.060
  • the places you go
  • 00:23:40.060 --> 00:23:41.090
  • and who you go with.
  • 00:23:41.090 --> 00:23:42.130
  • This applies to any struggle
  • 00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:44.060
  • in your life.
  • 00:23:44.060 --> 00:23:44.230
  • If you say, "Man, I keep
  • 00:23:44.230 --> 00:23:45.080
  • partying."
  • 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:46.010
  • It's because who you're
  • 00:23:46.010 --> 00:23:46.200
  • hanging out with.
  • 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:47.080
  • I promise you.
  • 00:23:47.080 --> 00:23:48.060
  • It's because of where you're
  • 00:23:48.060 --> 00:23:49.030
  • going and who you're
  • 00:23:49.030 --> 00:23:50.020
  • going with, okay?
  • 00:23:50.020 --> 00:23:51.020
  • And so whatever area you want
  • 00:23:51.020 --> 00:23:52.150
  • to change in your life,
  • 00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:53.070
  • if you're struggling with drugs,
  • 00:23:53.070 --> 00:23:53.260
  • you got to quit hanging out
  • 00:23:53.260 --> 00:23:54.130
  • with people who do drugs.
  • 00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:55.100
  • The answer is you got
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  • to hang out with people
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  • who give you the right influence
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  • and take you
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  • to the right places.
  • 00:23:59.080 --> 00:23:59.270
  • And the last one, number five:
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  • avoid the temptation
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  • to immediately get involved
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  • in a heterosexual relationship.
  • 00:24:03.100 --> 00:24:05.220
  • This is a big one.
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  • I see this, people do this
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  • all the time.
  • 00:24:07.050 --> 00:24:07.230
  • Because if you do that,
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  • and not just with homosexuality,
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  • with any other struggle,
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  • if you have any sin, you pick
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  • the sin, that's consuming
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  • your life and you enter
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  • into a relationship
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  • with someone, guess what's
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  • going to happen?
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  • You're going to eventually try
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  • to lie to them, or downplay
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  • and pretend that you're
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  • not being consumed by this sin.
  • 00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:24.010
  • In other words, you're not ready
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  • for a relationship.
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  • You're got to take care
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  • of that problem first.
  • 00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:27.170
  • This is why when someone goes
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  • off to rehab, and they come back
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  • with a boyfriend or a girlfriend
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  • from rehab, I'm like,
  • 00:24:30.090 --> 00:24:31.190
  • "Bad idea.
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  • Bad idea."
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  • You're consumed with this
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  • and they're consumed with this,
  • 00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:36.290
  • and now you're getting together.
  • 00:24:36.290 --> 00:24:37.240
  • This is not going to go well.
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  • Overcome that first, walk away
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  • from that, become whole
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  • in Christ, and that way,
  • 00:24:43.150 --> 00:24:44.200
  • when someone's attracted
  • 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:45.150
  • to you, they're attracted
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  • to who you are in Jesus,
  • 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:47.200
  • which is what we want anyways.
  • 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.280
  • Does that make sense?
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  • So now is not the time to date.
  • 00:24:52.010 --> 00:24:55.010
  • The last thing I want
  • 00:24:55.010 --> 00:24:55.160
  • to tell you is this?
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  • I want to go back to what I said
  • 00:24:56.080 --> 00:24:56.290
  • at the very beginning.
  • 00:24:56.290 --> 00:24:58.090
  • It's important you know this.
  • 00:24:58.090 --> 00:24:59.280
  • We flat out, unapologetically,
  • 00:25:01.030 --> 00:25:04.030
  • welcome you, and love you,
  • 00:25:04.030 --> 00:25:06.080
  • regardless of your sin,
  • 00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:07.230
  • regardless of your struggle,
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  • regardless of what you're
  • 00:25:09.040 --> 00:25:09.270
  • doing.
  • 00:25:09.270 --> 00:25:10.120
  • You may say, "I'm
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  • openly in a gay relationship."
  • 00:25:10.270 --> 00:25:12.130
  • "I am openly gay and married
  • 00:25:12.130 --> 00:25:14.060
  • to my partner."
  • 00:25:14.060 --> 00:25:15.080
  • Welcome.
  • 00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:16.000
  • We're glad you're here.
  • 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.140
  • We still love you.
  • 00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:18.060
  • That hasn't changed at all.
  • 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.200
  • You're welcome here,
  • 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.100
  • we love you.
  • 00:25:23.100 --> 00:25:24.100
  • We're going to hold high
  • 00:25:24.100 --> 00:25:25.040
  • the standard of God,
  • 00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:26.070
  • because we believe it's
  • 00:25:26.070 --> 00:25:26.250
  • the best way to live,
  • 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:27.230
  • but we all know
  • 00:25:27.230 --> 00:25:28.180
  • every one of us falls short
  • 00:25:28.180 --> 00:25:30.000
  • of it, but we're still going
  • 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.150
  • to seek Jesus, love him,
  • 00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:32.260
  • and love people.
  • 00:25:32.260 --> 00:25:34.110
  • That's who we are.
  • 00:25:34.110 --> 00:25:36.120
  • - Bil: Hey, thanks so much
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  • for watching the program today.
  • 00:25:43.110 --> 00:25:44.250
  • I got a question for you.
  • 00:25:44.250 --> 00:25:46.060
  • Have you asked Jesus Christ
  • 00:25:46.060 --> 00:25:47.110
  • to be your Lord and Savior?
  • 00:25:47.110 --> 00:25:49.090
  • Have you prayed a simple prayer
  • 00:25:49.090 --> 00:25:50.260
  • that guarantees that you will
  • 00:25:50.260 --> 00:25:52.170
  • go to heaven because you know
  • 00:25:52.170 --> 00:25:53.280
  • Jesus?
  • 00:25:53.280 --> 00:25:55.100
  • Would you pray this prayer
  • 00:25:55.100 --> 00:25:56.080
  • with me right now?
  • 00:25:56.080 --> 00:25:57.050
  • You can just say this out loud.
  • 00:25:57.050 --> 00:25:57.290
  • You can say,
  • 00:25:57.290 --> 00:25:58.180
  • "Dear Jesus, I realize I need
  • 00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:00.250
  • you.
  • 00:26:00.250 --> 00:26:01.260
  • I believe you died on the cross
  • 00:26:01.260 --> 00:26:02.280
  • for me to pray the price
  • 00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:04.060
  • for my sins and I believe
  • 00:26:04.060 --> 00:26:05.270
  • you rose again.
  • 00:26:05.270 --> 00:26:07.040
  • Please come into my heart,
  • 00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:08.160
  • be my Lord and be my Savior.
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  • Thank you, Jesus, for saving me.
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  • - female announcer: Excuses may
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  • be the only thing keeping you
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  • from who God has called you
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  • to be.
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  • In his new DVD message,
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  • Pastor Bil teaches us
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  • how to overcome
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  • the most common excuses
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  • - Bil: You see God what
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  • he speaks over you is the truth.
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  • Don't let the devil label you
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  • because a label becomes a libel,
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  • it becomes a lie.
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  • It's not what the devil says
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  • you are or what you have done
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  • that matters.
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  • It's what God says you are
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