What Are Soul Ties? | Better Together
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What Are Soul Ties? | Better Together
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- - Souls knitted together,(soft new age music)
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- the bond created isnot always healthy.
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- How can we untiespiritual connections
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- that block us from healing?
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- Come on, let's talk about it.
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- (inspirational new age music)
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- - What I can reflectback on, growing up, is,
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- it's the moments of, whenI was not serving the Lord,
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- being in certain relationships.
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- And I noticed certainpatterns that would happen
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- in my life.
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- And it took a woman ofGod, my spiritual mother,
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- Cely May Olden,wherever you are,
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- thank you, thank you, thank you.
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- She was the one whowas like a third party
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- looking from the outsidelooking into my life.
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- And I lived with her,I learned how to pray,
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- I learned, just thelife of a believer,
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- an abundant life.
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- And so, she saw thisinteraction, going back to what
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- I was saying in the beginning,seeing this interaction
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- between me and my stepfather.
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- And we were outside of thechurch, and he was just sitting
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- right next to me, and atthis point this was prior
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- to me being married, priorto me meeting my husband,
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- but we were at the churchthat I got saved in,
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- he was sitting right next tome, and it was the interaction
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- that we had.
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- It was the way heinteracted with me,
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- that was, in what shephrased it as inappropriate,
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- his approach to me.
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- Body language, the wayhis hand, as a male,
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- would be on my thigh, justthings of that nature.
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- The interaction; and shepulled me to the side
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- when I returnedback to her place,
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- pulled me to the sideand started to talkto me about that.
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- And I never realized,because those red flags
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- were almost railroaded, ifI could put it that way,
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- I could not interpretthose red flags.
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- And so I can look back at someof the unhealthy connections,
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- of some of thephysical connections
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- that I've had over my life.
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- Not only did itstart with abuse,
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- but the way hewould approach me,
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- and I would sit thereand just take it.
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- His impropriety, hisinappropriate way, manner.
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- And so, when I thinkof soul ties, I think
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- of that connection, lookingback in the scriptures
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- with Dinah, and the princefrom, I believe it was Shechem,
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- or a Hivite, of some type,
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- and so I guess he wasinappropriate with her,
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- he raped her.
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- And then he would go back,and the phrase would be
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- in one translation thathis soul clung to Dinah.
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- So this, almost like thisclaving, this attachment,
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- and I think that'swhat a soul tie is.
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- It's an unhealthy tetheredway of connecting to someone.
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- That happens chemically,when you have intimacy
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- between two parties, and there's
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- an emotional bond that happens.
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- Well it happens just the sameway in a healthy connection,
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- it happens in an unhealthyway, when an abuser approaches
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- the person that they'regrooming to be abused.
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- And so, that happened tome, but now those signs,
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- I wasn't aware of.
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- So when I think of soul ties,I think of those unhealthy
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- attachments, whetherit's promiscuity,
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- whether it's an abuser,whether it's an old boyfriend,
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- whether it's anabusive relationship,
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- whatever that is,(soft new age music)
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- that's what a soul tie is.
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- - When we think of soulties, I don't know what kind
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- of images that conjures up inyour mind, what you think of,
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- and what's healthy andwhat's not healthy.
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- And reflecting on whetheran unhealthy soul tie
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- can actually impactyour inner healing.
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- And I think it can, becauseI think our very first
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- soul tie, our very firstallegiance, is to Christ.
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- That because of whathe did on the cross,
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- that when we give our livesto him, that we are somehow,
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- in a way that's hard forus to grasp on this earth,
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- but we are in Christ,we are a new creation.
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- So we are in him.
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- Now, if we have tiesthat are unhealthy,
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- the Holy Spirit wantsto work in your life
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- and in my life to bringus closer to Jesus,
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- but unhealthy soul tiescan keep pulling us away.
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- And at some point, andthat's where I would
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- really recommend, scripturesays if anybody lacks wisdom,
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- let them ask, and the Lordwould love to let us know.
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- So I think when there'sany kind of soul tie
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- and you're not sure ifit's healthy or not,
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- ask the Holy Spiritto give you wisdom.
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- And if it is somethingthat's hindering your journey
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- with Christ, thenit's time to cut that.
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- Perhaps sometimefurther down the road,
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- when that person's maybein a different place,
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- and you are too, butnever allow a soul tie
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- to someone else toimpact what Christ
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- through the Holy Spiritis doing in your life.
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- - We have to understandthe anatomy of the soul,
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- I think it's so importantto understand that is,
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- because we know our body, weunderstand that we're spirit,
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- but the word of God saysthat when God breathed
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- into the nostrils of Adamhe became a living soul.
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- And that is wherehis identity is,
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- that's where who he is resides.
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- That's his mind, hiswill, his emotions,
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- it's the same for allof us, and I think
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- we end up havinginfluences on our thoughts,
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- on what we do, and how we feel,
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- that are not appropriate,and we have to actually
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- cast those thingsdown, because it does,
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- it infects your relationships.
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- Those soul ties, if you don'tintentionally break them,
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- they will destroy you.
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- And I know relationships thatI had prior to my husband,
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- there was one relationshipin particular,
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- I thought I wasgonna marry this guy.
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- That I just knew wewere gonna get married,
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- I loved him, and my husbandhates to hear me say that,
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- 'cause he's like, how canyou love anybody before me?
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- (shared laughing)
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- But, it happened; I loved him.
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- - [Woman] Bless his heart.
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- - Hey, just don't lethim watch this one.
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- Don't let him watch this one.
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- - I'm definitely notletting him watch this.
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- For the longest time Iwould think about this guy,
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- and whenever his namewas mentioned I just felt
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- a certain way, and heavenforbid he was in town
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- and he wanted to havelunch, and I wanted to go,
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- but I couldn't,'cause I was married.
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- And I realized therewas ground in my soul
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- that was knit to him.
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- - That's a great word.- And you literally
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- have to unwind it, andyou have to replace it
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- with other thoughts, youhave to replace it with,
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- and here's the thing,thoughts become habits,
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- habits become character,character becomes destiny.
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- And so we have tostop it in our mind.
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- That's where the battle is.
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- Once we change our thinking
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- and we allow God then(soft new age music)
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- to change how we feel, thenwe will change what we do.
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- But it starts with our thoughts.
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- - If I can encourageanybody who might be trying
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- to sever those unhealthyties, soul ties
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- to another person, I guessthe best advice would be this;
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- if you do have kids,
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- pretend you'retalking to your kid,
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- and what would youtell your kid to do?
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- You would tell your child,because you'd wanna protect
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- your child, look, thisis not good for you.
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- You need to stopbeing their friend.
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- They're not a goodinfluence on you.
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- You need to let go.
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- And now look at yourself,what do you see?
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- What do you need to let go of?
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- Who's a bad influence on you?
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- Who are you too closeto that it's just toxic?
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- And the relationshipshould not be?
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- It doesn't mean you can't just,
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- talk every once in a whileon the phone, I don't know,
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- but sometimes it's okay, andI wanna give you permission
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- to have boundaries.
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- Boundaries are good.
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- Sometimes you need somebodyto give you permission,
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- that it's okay to haveboundaries, and set them up.
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- Because even ifpeople are mad at you,
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- it is more importantfor you to protect
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- your heart, and guard yourheart, 'cause you're God's gift.
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- - When it comes to soul ties,it manifested in my bedroom.
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- So these image, theseflashbacks, of childhood,
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- things that happened to mewould revisit in the middle
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- of an intimate moment.
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- And so, how do I cut that?
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- And the Lord gave me sucha strong, prophetic image
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- of almost like this furnace,this furnace in this space,
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- and it was almostlike a mortuary,
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- where they cremate things,and so the Lord said,
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- Diana, I want youto take that thought
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- and just put it into this oven,
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- and it will beextinguished forever.
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- And so every time aflashback came to my mind,
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- I would just pray to myself,Lord I just put that,
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- I relinquish controlover that, I forgive,
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- I release it to you,and then in his hands
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- he'll put it into that fire.
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- And that won't haunt me,the power of that memory
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- won't revisit me, in themost intimate moments.
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- And I think most peoplefeel like they are tethered
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- to those memories,tethered to that history,
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- and they feel like,oh, I can never build
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- a new life or a newway of thinking,
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- but I am a testimonyto that, that you can.
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- You can overcome, you canhave a healthy sex life,
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- you can be whole, complete,you won't feel fractured,
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- or feel duplicitous,like you're fragmented
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- on the inside.
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- Your body will becomeone with your spirit,
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- and with your soul.
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- And so, I think for meit was actually burning
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- that image.- Well you have
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- to cast down those thoughts.- Replacing it.
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- Yes, it's a vainimagination, yeah.
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- - And bring them into captivityto the hands of Christ,
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- which means rememberingwhat the word of God says,
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- and you did the right thing,which is, I'm gonna replace
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- these thoughts of shame,and pain, with the truth
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- of God's word, then youbegin to have a different
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- perspective, which allowsyou to feel differently.
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- I had to do the exact samething, 'cause, with being
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- sexually abused as achild, when my husband
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- wanted to be intimate,and you know how we,
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- he wants to say certain things,and those were some things
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- that had been saidto me as a child,
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- and so when he wouldsay those things
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- it would trigger me, and Iwould become really cold,
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- and God had to literallyhelp me to replace
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- those thoughts andimaginations, and recognize,
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- you are safe with yourhusband, he loves you,
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- he's not gonna hurt you, Ihave created him for you,
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- and replacing those thoughtsis what led to my freedom.
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- (soft new age music)
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- - I think soul ties canalso be through different
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- relationships, brothers,or a toxic friend,
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- or a sister, I thinksomeone's actions
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- that totally affectyou every time
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- they play out, is asoul tie, or can be.
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- - I actually experiencedthat with one of my friends
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- after Barry and I got married.
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- There was a girl thatI was very close to,
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- and maybe after wewere a month married,
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- she called me onenight, and she said,
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- I've just receivedsome terrible news,
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- and I said, oh gosh, what?
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- And she said, I've justbeen diagnosed HIV positive.
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- So I said to her,listen, you know what?
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- I sent her the airfare andI flew her into Nashville,
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- where we were living atthe time, and I said,
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- I'm gonna go to theclinic with you,
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- and we're just gonna findout exactly what's going on.
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- So she flew in, I went with her,
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- I remember sitting inthis clinic thinking
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- there are a lot of peoplein here who are gonna know
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- who I am. (shared laughing)
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- So, and then she had tosign a release to say
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- that I could go back in aweek and get the result.
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- So I go back in a weekand get the result,
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- and they're like, no,well there's nothing,
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- there's nothing wrong with her.
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- So I call my friend,and I said, great news,
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- you're absolutely fine.
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- And I said, why did youthink you did have this?
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- And she said, well I justdidn't feel very well,
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- and I'd been doing some things,
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- and honestly I've justkind of missed you.
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- And I thought, wellthat's really strange.(shared laughing)
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- Two months down theline she said, hey,
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- I just happened to bein town, is there anyway
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- that could have dinner?
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- And I'm like, yeah, sure, come.
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- And I said, youcan stay the night.
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- Two o'clock in themorning, she wakes me up
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- and she said, I'veswallowed a whole bottle
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- of Tylenol, I'vetried to kill myself.
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- So I'm waking my husband,I'm like, we have to get her
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- to the hospital,we go to the ER,
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- and she's taken back,and a while later
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- the doctor came out andsaid, why did you bring her?
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- And I said, becauseshe swallowed a wholebottle of pills.
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- He said, at the mostshe took two Tylenol,
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- there's nothing in her system.
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- And it was all this, Iwant to be with you now,
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- and if you're gonnabe with this guy,
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- I want to be part of it,
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- and it was a really hardthing, I had to sit down
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- and say to her, you know what?
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- This is not acceptable anymore.
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- It's not appropriate.
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- And even though I'm gratefulfor the friendship we had,
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- you have twice crosseda boundary, and lied,
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- to continue somethingthat is not healthy.
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- And for probably three, four,five, six years after that,
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- I would still get calls,and I would say, I'm sorry.
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- 'Cause there's sometimeswhen you have to cut off
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- something that's not healthy.
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- - And it was toxic.
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- - It's not that you don'tcare for the person,
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- but it's just what they'rebringing into your life.
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- And particularly thefirst years of marriage,
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- where you want to protectthat relationship,
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- and it was hard for meto do, but I had to say,
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- you know what?
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- This is not healthy.
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- - But see, that's actuallyhow you break soul ties,
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- because, again, youjust have to remember,
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- it's your mind, yourwill, and your emotions.
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- So you have to first, youhave to protect your mind,
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- protect your thoughts,that could involve blocking
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- somebody, that couldmean unfriending,
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- that could mean sitting downand having a conversation,
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- like, this just isn't working.
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- And then you have toprotect your feelings,
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- because there are people whowill play on your emotions.
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- They just, they know yourbuttons, and you have
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- to set boundaries tosay, you know what?
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- - Or manipulate.
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- - Or they'll manipulate you.
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- And then I think it'sall about, again,
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- what you do too.
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- Because, like you said,you just had to sit down
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- with her and say, you know what?
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- This isn't gonna work.
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- But you have tochange your thoughts,
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- you have to changeyour feelings,
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- you have to change whatyou do and what you allow,
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- and that means(soft new age music)
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- setting boundaries.
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- That's how you resolve it.
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- - I think sometimespeople can make us feel
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- so responsible for them.
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- And I think that's whenpeople cross the line.
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- I am not betweenanybody and God.
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- And we have got to step outof the way, in some cases,
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- and let them have theirown communication with God,
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- let them have their ownexperience with God,
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- and don't ever put someonebetween you and God.
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- Because there is noplace for man there.
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- - I started traveling withmy parents when I was nine
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- years old, and so whenI got my record deal,
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- I started traveling, inbuses, and going on tours,
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- and there were a bunchof men on the road,
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- so I had to travelwith my mother.
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- So of course, my mom had totake care of her little girl.
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- - Which is normal, which is,
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- that part is normal.- It's the way
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- it should be, you shouldhave your mother with you
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- when you're 14, 15, 16, witha bunch of men all the time.
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- Not that anythingweird, just to be there.
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- - A protective layer.
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- - So fast forward, when Iwas 23, I accidentally got
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- married andintentionally divorced.
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- - I accidentally got married.
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- - I'll get into thatlater. (shared laughing)
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- Accidentally married andintentionally divorced.
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- In that marriage, my soulwas never tied to him,
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- because I knew it was amistake from the moment
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- I married him.
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- But, I remember, whenI was frustrated,
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- or sad or something, Iwould go to my mom's house,
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- because she was the safeplace, she was really,
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- she was home.
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- She was still my spiritualcovering, because this man
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- was not really a believer.
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- Now fast forward, I'mintentionally divorced,
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- and I marry the most amazingman, my husband Nick,
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- and I remember thefirst year of marriage,
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- it was a struggle gettingthat tie to my mother severed,
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- so I could truly betied to my husband.
- 00:16:49.823 --> 00:16:52.492
- It was hard; and, there arestill moments it's so hard
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- because I seek herapproval so much.
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- I want her so muchto be proud of me,
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- and think I'm a greatwife and a great mom,
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- but I don't need her approval.
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- She's mom, and I loveher, and I will honor her,
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- and I am so blessedthat she's my mother,
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- but I am with this man.
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- We are one, together.
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- - You're leaving and cleaving.
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- - Yes, and I never realizedthat that was actually
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- what was going on, untilthis word came into my life.
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- - Wow.
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- - Yes, isn't that,it's fascinating to me.
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- And so, I didn't realizethat that's what I had
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- been doing over thecourse of this timeframe
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- in our marriage, and howI never even had that
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- in the first marriage.
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- Never was truly tied tohim because I could never
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- let go of this.
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- - When you have someonenow coming alongside you,
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- there's a bond that happens,there's a chemical reaction,
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- it happens in intimacy,in the act of marriage,
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- the act of sex, andalso it happens,
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- and that's a healthyconnection, because of course
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- you're gonna consummateyour marriage.
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- And so, that happens there,but Havilah Cunnington
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- has a great curriculumcalled Moral Revolution,
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- and she explainsthe process of that.
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- So, this chemical reactionthat happens, the bonding
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- that happens between amother and father to a child,
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- where it happenswhen you're married,
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- it happens in friendship,the bond, the connection,
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- but that bond issupposed to be broken
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- when you marry someone,and leaving your family.
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- And the unhealthy flow, it'salmost like an umbilical cord,
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- if you don't detach, alife flows through that.
- 00:18:36.095 --> 00:18:40.099
- It flows into that person, itflows into that connection,
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- it flows into that relationship.
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- So whether good orbad, it's not helpful,
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- especially in the processof bonding with your husband
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- or your wife, andit happened with us,
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- it was a unhealthy connection
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- my husband had with his mom.
- 00:18:56.616 --> 00:18:58.785
- - Interesting.
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- - Let's talk aboutthat. (shared laughing)
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- - Because the connection,it's, now you're in
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- the consulting phase ofbeing a parent where,
- 00:19:08.127 --> 00:19:12.599
- before he got married,that will always happen,
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- but now the interactionwill be less when you do
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- get married, so the benefitsof, you have all that time
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- with your child, awesome,but in the process
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- of bonding withyour new partner,
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- it becomes a challenge.
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- Then all of a sudden(soft new age music)
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- it's not just one woman,
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- now you have two women.(shared laughing)
- 00:19:30.350 --> 00:19:33.586
- - Yeah, I do not want tobe that mother in law.
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- I had a beautiful exampleof a mother in law,
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- and I want to replicate that.
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- I want to be supportive,
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- I want to be as muchAudrey's mama as Cody's mom,
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- and be there when they need me,
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- and learn to shut mymouth when they don't.
- 00:19:54.674 --> 00:19:56.943
- - My husband's very closeto his family as well,
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- and that was a struggle,when we got married,
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- because what happens is nowpeople feel like they have
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- license to actually comein and have opinion.
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- They feel like they havelicense because you're going
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- to them and you're actuallyconsulting them on things
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- that you really shouldbe looking to God for,
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- and you should be talkingto your spouse about.
- 00:20:16.829 --> 00:20:18.464
- - When I got married, myhusband's mom, who was
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- emotional, I and ever hadanybody be half an inch
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- away from my faceand yell in my face,
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- 'cause I'm Scottish,and we're just more,
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- we're just more.
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- So, I said to Barry, I thinkshe just feels left out,
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- because he's an only son,and he was so close to them.
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- In the morning I would sayto her, good morning, mom,
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- can I get you a cup of coffee?
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- And she would just be nothing.
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- So on the second day,Barry said to her,
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- listen mom, this is myhome, this is my wife,
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- you can either talk toher, or you should go home,
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- and she went home.
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- And it took me years of, butit was really important to me
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- that my husband made that clear,
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- 'cause I thought, what onearth is gonna happen here?
- 00:20:57.203 --> 00:20:59.138
- - You will become the enemy.
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- But he took ownershipof that time.
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- - Man, I love that.
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- - And said, no, this is howyou're gonna treat my wife.
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- - And then the, it wasinteresting, 'cause in the end
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- when she had liver cancer, Iwas the one that nursed her,
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- I was the one that heldher until the final.
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- And we became really close,because we'd established
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- boundaries,appropriate boundaries.
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- - For many of us that arepeering into this conversation,
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- it's, can it happen?
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- Can I live a whole life?
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- And I'm here tosay, yes you can.
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- Yes you can, you canhave healthy bonds,
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- you can have healthythinking, you can have
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- the most intimatemoments where you react
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- in a healthfulway, you can build
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- a healthy life, and havehealthy kids at the same time,
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- so praise Jesus, amen.(shared laughing)
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- (soft new age music)
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- - Would you let me pray for you?
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- Father God, I thank you thatyour love for us is so fierce
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- that you would notlive without us,
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- and that you sent your sonJesus to die in my place,
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- in our place.
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- I mean, Christ said,Father, punish me now,
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- for everything thatSheila Walsh will ever do.
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- And Lord, for thosewho are watching,
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- I ask you now to putyour own name in there,
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- and now Lord I wantto bring unhealthy
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- soul ties before you.
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- And if you're listeningto this prayer,
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- if you're watching this,just take a moment here,
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- and bring those names to mind.
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- People from your past,things in your past
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- that you don'twanna think about,
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- but if it's something thatthe Holy Spirit brings
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- to your mind, then just speakthat out before the Lord.
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- And now, let's bringthe blood of Christ
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- to cover that, andto sever that tie.
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- Lord, I thank you thatthere is power in the name
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- of the Lord, that there'spower in the blood of the lamb.
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- And right now, in Jesus name,we choose, and we ask you Lord
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- that you would sever thoseties, cut them off from us,
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- set us free to bewhole and free,
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- that our allegiance isto you, and to you alone.
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- And we ask it in the powerfulname of Jesus Christ, amen.
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- 00:23:23.683 --> 00:23:27.353
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- 00:23:27.353 --> 00:23:31.090
- - The sign of stuckness,when you're trying to walk
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- through inner healing,is when it begins to seep
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- into your world, whenit begins to leak,
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- in your relationships,especially for me
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- the indicator was my marriage.
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- You may have feltvictorious in one stage,
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- but there's also anotherstage after that.
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- So you don't celebrate at thebottom of the mountaintop,
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- if I could put it that way,
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- and when you'rescaling the mountain,
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- you don't celebrateat a hundred feet.
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- No, you have tocelebrate at the top.
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- And so I think weget so enamored
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- with little successes,but those little successes
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- sometimes will stop inthe middle of the process,
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- and we'll clap andapplaud ourselves,
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- but there's still along journey after that
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- that really needs to happen.
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- And so, for me, Istarted to see and notice
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- when I wasn't myself,when I began to seep into
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- old patterns of behavior,especially in my marriage,
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- and that pushed meto a better life,
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- that pushed me to abetter way of thinking,
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- that pushed me to havebetter relationships.
- 00:24:34.453 --> 00:24:37.557
- And so, inner healing,it's so important,
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- when you really haveto not stay stuck,
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- but keep moving.
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- Not stay in one place,but keep on going forward.
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- Because if you stay stuck,you can also see in the life
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- of Michael, in the OldTestament, she stayed stuck
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- in a moment, and it reallycaused a deep barreness
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- in her spirit, so to speak.
- 00:24:59.579 --> 00:25:01.480
- And so, you never wanna bethat, you don't wanna be
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- that kind of woman.
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