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September 12, 2019
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When "just pray about it" is not enough. Let's learn how to support loved ones battling anxiety and depression. | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000

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  • - We've heard from so many of you
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  • that anxiety and depression are effecting your life
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  • or your loved ones.
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  • How do we offer support?
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  • It's time for a fresh perspective.
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  • Let's talk about it.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - The height of my depression,
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  • it's probably more appropriate to say the depth of it.
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  • It was about two and a half years, for me,
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  • that I was just sitting at home,
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  • stuffing myself and I gained 200 pounds
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  • in those two years.
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  • 200 pounds.
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  • I could hardly move.
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  • All I wanted to do was lay in my bed
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  • and to watch television.
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  • There was something about escaping to somebody else's world
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  • that made me feel comforted.
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  • And so, I hardly left my house,
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  • but when I did leave my house,
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  • it was to see the movie War Room.
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  • And, I'll be honest,
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  • I didn't really want anything to do with anything of God,
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  • but my song was in War Room,
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  • (laughs) so that was the only reason.
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  • I wanted to hear my song.
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  • So, I went and I saw War Room
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  • and, if can be completely honest,
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  • there was a part of seeing how that story,
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  • ended happily ever after with a nicely tied bow,
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  • that made me feel, well that's not my story.
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  • It actually made me angry.
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  • And so, I had to go and see another movie,
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  • that I still don't remember to this day,
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  • but when I walked out, I saw my car,
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  • it had a bunch of yellow sticky notes all over it.
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  • And, on the sticky notes, as I got closer,
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  • it said things like, "We miss you," and "We love you,"
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  • - Wow - and, "Come back to us."
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  • And there were scriptures written on them.
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  • And then, as I started to walk to my car
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  • to figure out what was going on,
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  • I saw a handful of my friends,
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  • that just came out of their cars.
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  • - Wow - Oh, my gosh.
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  • And, they'd been sitting outside that movie theater
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  • for about three and a half hours.
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  • And, they had an intervention, essentially.
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  • They said, "We know that you are in the dark.
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  • "We know that you've been there for a long time,
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  • "but, we can't leave you that way."
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  • and, their love, their acceptance,
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  • their we love you just the way that you are,
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  • but we love you too much to leave you there,
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  • it's interesting because it was a flood
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  • of wow, these people really do love me.
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  • And then, it was a how dare they confront me?
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  • How dare they come at me like this?
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  • And, I'd been ignoring all of their texts
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  • and their phone calls,
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  • but it got to the point where they couldn't let me
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  • do it any longer.
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  • And so, they had that intervention.
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  • That's what made me start to go to counseling.
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  • And that's what made me just take one step out.
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  • So, I think about I probably wouldn't be here today
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  • had they not done that.
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  • And, I think about what it means to have a support,
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  • a community group because I isolate.
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  • I think it's so important that you,
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  • we have got to pray for one another,
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  • but I wanna say it's also important to reach out
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  • and even if you're getting no answer back,
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  • even if you're getting met with anger,
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  • it's just so important that we do it.
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  • And, if you love somebody enough,
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  • you'll be willing to get yelled at,
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  • to get screamed at, even to get ignored.
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  • So, I just think, yeah,
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  • it's something that we've got to, it's uncomfortable,
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  • but it's something that we have to do.
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  • - It's goin' after the one, isn't it?
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  • And I think, you know, it's imperative.
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  • It's funny 'cause I remember that day
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  • when I reached out to you and I loved that you were like,
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  • "I'm sitting right behind you."
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  • But because I hadn't seen Mandisa for a few weeks,
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  • and then I said to her yesterday on the plane,
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  • and I think it's good for us to sometimes,
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  • I repented to Mandisa.
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  • And I said, "Mandisa, you came across my mind twice,"
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  • in that after you were in a jam,
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  • "and I didn't follow through."
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  • And I said, "I need to apologize."
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  • And, I'm gonna grab your hand, I'm sorry.
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  • I'm sorry that I didn't reach out.
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  • That was the prompting of the Holy Spirit,
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  • to say, "Reach out, she's isolating,"
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  • and I didn't do it.
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  • - I have a song on my Out Of The Dark album
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  • called The One He Speaks Through
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  • and it talks about how,
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  • have you ever felt when somebody
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  • just comes to your mind out of nowhere,
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  • you'll see something that will remind you of something,
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  • or of someone.
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  • That is often the Holy Spirit prompting you to pray
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  • and to reach out to that person.
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  • Every time that we do that,
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  • we are ushering in the throne room of heaven.
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  • We are being the hands and feet of Jesus.
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  • And, even if it's not,
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  • even if it's not the Holy Spirit,
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  • even if you just happened to see something
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  • that reminded you of something,
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  • that matters and nothing bad is gonna come
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  • from you reaching out to that person.
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  • If anything else, they're just gonna feel loved
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  • and accepted and seen and known.
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  • And, everybody needs to feel that from time to time.
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  • - You know, but how many times do we think of somebody
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  • - Yes - I'm so guilty of that
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  • of thinkin' about 'em and prayin' for 'em
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  • but maybe not tellin' 'em, "Hey, I love you
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  • and I've been thinkin' about you today."
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  • And, I think those little texts and touches
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  • are so important.
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  • - Yeah, and I wanna say as somebody
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  • who's been on the receiving end of that,
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  • I remember you would be texting me
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  • when I was in that place
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  • - And you wouldn't answer back - and I wouldn't answer
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  • no - I know.
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  • - And so I guess what I wanted to encourage people
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  • who have loved ones who are going through this
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  • is even if you don't get an answer back,
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  • know that I heard, I saw every single one of those texts,
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  • and it's somethin' about, yeah,
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  • even if you're not getting a response,
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  • don't give up because we've got to fight for one another.
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  • Like, that is what Jesus did.
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  • That's what we're supposed to do.
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  • - Yes, it's so important because
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  • only because I've been there,
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  • so I knew oh, she's not gonna text me back and it's okay.
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  • But, she's seeing it.
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  • And, I think that we have to be willing,
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  • first of all, to take a risk
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  • and that's sometimes scary because you don't...
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  • - Well, and you didn't get all offended.
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  • - No, and you can't get offended.
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  • You have to have thicker skin than that.
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  • You can't be so thin skinned
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  • that it's like oh, well she didn't text me back.
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  • It's just important to not be easily offended
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  • and to take the risk of asking tough questions.
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  • And I think that's, you know,
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  • I've never been really good at having a lot of friends
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  • because I just...
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  • - 'Cause it takes work.
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  • - Uh huh. It's like it takes work and it takes intention.
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  • But, I also have come to feel like it's really
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  • not important to have a ton of friends, to me.
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  • My mom always said, "Be kind to everybody,
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  • "but choose your friends wisely."
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  • You have to be kind to everybody.
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  • You don't have to be friends with everybody.
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  • And just to have like two or three people
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  • that I trust and that I actually let
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  • ask me the tough questions.
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  • And, you have to be willing to have those kind of friends
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  • and you have to be willing to be that friend for somebody,
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  • where you're gonna ask them the tough questions,
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  • and you're gonna be okay if they get mad at you.
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  • But, we have to have accountability, you know?
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  • That's important. There's not enough accountability.
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  • - It feels like there are some things,
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  • like when people say, "Well, just pray about it."
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  • Like, I can't explain.
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  • When you are in that depth of darkness,
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  • it's the last thing that you wanna do.
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  • Or, I feel like, say something
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  • regardless of what you say,
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  • I think it's better to say something
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  • than to not say anything.
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  • But, I also wonder what are the things
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  • that you should maybe not just give a token
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  • just do this. - You just need to trust God.
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  • - Yeah.
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  • - Don't say that to me anymore.
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  • I am trusting God.
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  • Don't tell me, "You just need to trust God."
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  • So, I think just being honest and transparent and open,
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  • creating places, just like we've created this week,
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  • places for this kind of conversation is so important.
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  • But then also, recognizing okay we don't
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  • just wanna recognize that we're struggling,
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  • but we wanna actually equip people on how to handle it.
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  • And, instead of judging or also just saying,
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  • "You just need to have more faith,"
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  • and having these easy religious answers,
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  • that we need to have practical and tangible ways,
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  • which is what I love about these conversations this week,
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  • because I really feel like, every day,
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  • that in these conversations there's a takeaway,
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  • you know, something that tangibly you can say
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  • "okay, I'm gonna write out my scriptures."
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  • Okay, Alex said something I really loved,
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  • which was enlarging God over your circumstances.
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  • And, I just loved that word picture.
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  • As a songwriter, I loved that
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  • because it was just that picture
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  • of making God bigger, enlarging him over my situation,
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  • singing over my situation.
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  • And, I think that that's important
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  • is to recognize the reality that it's happening,
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  • create safe places in our churches...
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  • - It's coming alongside people
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  • and you know, and just even going,
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  • "I'm here - With you
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  • - You don't have to give the advice.
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  • I think we're always tryin' to fill in the blanks
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  • of the Holy spirit.
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  • But, I think just knowing I'm here,
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  • I see you, I hear you, I understand you.
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  • And, God sees you and so I think that is so important
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  • but I think it's like when you go through loss
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  • and someone says dumb things, you know?
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  • And I think it's 'cause they don't know what to say
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  • so they're trying their hardest to say something.
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  • You're like, better, shh, just no.
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  • But, I think seeing that hey, we've got to be there
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  • for one another. - Yes.
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  • And opening our eyes to be aware of one another.
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  • - Yeah, I heard someone talk the other day
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  • that they were in a situation
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  • where their faith was just lost.
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  • I'd lost my faith, you know?
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  • And, someone asked them,
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  • said, "Would you trust my faith?"
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  • - Wow.
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  • - I'll have the faith for the both of us
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  • - Wow. - That's good.
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  • - And, I'll help see you through this.
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  • So, I'm here to say, could I help with my faith?
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  • I'll help you with my faith.
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  • I'll add my faith to yours
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  • and whoever's watching today, you know,
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  • we'll add our faith to yours for whatever you're believin',
  • 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.270
  • for whatever you need from God, you know?
  • 00:09:41.270 --> 00:09:44.260
  • it's a beautiful story.
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  • - The people in the New Testament that carried,
  • 00:09:45.260 --> 00:09:47.200
  • that got on the stretcher and lowered him in,
  • 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.080
  • I mean, they took effort to do that,
  • 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.050
  • and they got him to Jesus where he could be healed.
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  • And, I think we do have to be more intentional
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  • about being aware that not everybody is actually okay
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  • just because they're showing up
  • 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:04.180
  • and they're performing or doing something,
  • 00:10:04.180 --> 00:10:07.260
  • to always look beyond and be like
  • 00:10:07.260 --> 00:10:09.090
  • no actually how are you, how are you going?
  • 00:10:09.090 --> 00:10:11.120
  • - 'Cause the Holy Spirit, he does that.
  • 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.240
  • He's so good at those little,
  • 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.270
  • anytime somebody just randomly pops into my mind,
  • 00:10:15.270 --> 00:10:18.080
  • I know that that's the Holy Spirit.
  • 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.040
  • And, even if it's just,
  • 00:10:20.040 --> 00:10:22.050
  • let's say even if it's not,
  • 00:10:22.050 --> 00:10:23.120
  • let's just follow that train of thought,
  • 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:24.270
  • what is gonna be wrong with praying for that person?
  • 00:10:24.270 --> 00:10:28.190
  • So, I love those little promptings that you feel
  • 00:10:28.190 --> 00:10:31.060
  • out of nowhere and I love knowing that He actually
  • 00:10:31.060 --> 00:10:34.130
  • created us to do life with one another.
  • 00:10:34.130 --> 00:10:36.270
  • And, it is so easy to think,
  • 00:10:36.270 --> 00:10:38.140
  • I've heard the story, or I've heard people say,
  • 00:10:38.140 --> 00:10:40.290
  • "I don't wanna be a burden to anybody else,"
  • 00:10:40.290 --> 00:10:43.050
  • but that is such a lie from the enemy.
  • 00:10:43.050 --> 00:10:45.120
  • - We have to bare each other through.
  • 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:46.280
  • - Literally in the word time and time again
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  • we are the body because there are things
  • 00:10:49.110 --> 00:10:51.090
  • that I'm not gonna be able to do alone
  • 00:10:51.090 --> 00:10:52.250
  • and I need you guys to be able to lower me down to Jesus.
  • 00:10:52.250 --> 00:10:56.070
  • - I was having such a random just like overthinking moment
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  • the other day 'cause like I'm having a girl,
  • 00:11:01.010 --> 00:11:02.160
  • so I was like sitting thinking about being a mom to a girl.
  • 00:11:02.160 --> 00:11:04.210
  • I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna be a mom. It's a girl.
  • 00:11:04.210 --> 00:11:07.230
  • All this stuff about parenting
  • 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:09.120
  • and specifically parenting a daughter
  • 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.210
  • and I randomly got a text from a friend
  • 00:11:11.210 --> 00:11:14.240
  • that I used to work with on TV with Eye Shine
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  • her name's Paige and she randomly texted me
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  • and said her daughter who's like six,
  • 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:22.120
  • she said my daughter wanted to reach out
  • 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.140
  • and say, "How are you doing?" - Oh my gosh.
  • 00:11:24.140 --> 00:11:26.070
  • - And just her daughter's sittin' like at six
  • 00:11:26.070 --> 00:11:28.270
  • but for me, I was like,
  • 00:11:28.270 --> 00:11:30.050
  • no that was the Holy Spirit moving through
  • 00:11:30.050 --> 00:11:31.130
  • that little, like that kindergartner.
  • 00:11:31.130 --> 00:11:32.180
  • - Yes. - It's so crazy.
  • 00:11:32.180 --> 00:11:34.170
  • It's just, I think it works on both ends.
  • 00:11:34.170 --> 00:11:36.250
  • It's like when you have a friend,
  • 00:11:36.250 --> 00:11:39.030
  • whether they're going through something
  • 00:11:39.030 --> 00:11:40.210
  • traumatic at the time or not,
  • 00:11:40.210 --> 00:11:41.260
  • it's like just choosing to reach out
  • 00:11:41.260 --> 00:11:43.050
  • when they're on your mind,
  • 00:11:43.050 --> 00:11:45.130
  • but then also when you're on the receiving end of it,
  • 00:11:45.130 --> 00:11:47.180
  • like you were saying,
  • 00:11:47.180 --> 00:11:48.260
  • it's like choosing to acknowledge,
  • 00:11:48.260 --> 00:11:50.030
  • like God is using this person for a reason.
  • 00:11:50.030 --> 00:11:51.290
  • Like, what is he using them to speak into my life
  • 00:11:51.290 --> 00:11:54.090
  • at this time?
  • 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:55.160
  • And so, it gave me so much peace.
  • 00:11:55.160 --> 00:11:57.050
  • I know it sound so random,
  • 00:11:57.050 --> 00:11:59.040
  • but it gave me so much peace about mothering a daughter
  • 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:02.040
  • 'cause I was like, why?
  • 00:12:02.040 --> 00:12:03.120
  • Like I've watched my friend do this
  • 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.190
  • and now her daughter is like talking to Jesus
  • 00:12:04.190 --> 00:12:06.130
  • and telling me...
  • 00:12:06.130 --> 00:12:07.250
  • It's just so crazy, you know,
  • 00:12:07.250 --> 00:12:09.080
  • he uses the tiniest moments to be very effective.
  • 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.150
  • If I was talking to my 20 year old self,
  • 00:12:12.210 --> 00:12:15.100
  • I would tell myself don't work so hard to find approval.
  • 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:20.100
  • Don't strive so hard.
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  • You don't have anything to prove.
  • 00:12:25.270 --> 00:12:28.110
  • Like, the God in you is enough
  • 00:12:28.110 --> 00:12:32.040
  • and if you allow His character
  • 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:34.100
  • to be developed in your life,
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  • you actually don't have to work at all.
  • 00:12:36.180 --> 00:12:38.190
  • You just allow Him to work through you.
  • 00:12:38.190 --> 00:12:41.100
  • Instead of working for God,
  • 00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:43.270
  • you allow Him to work through you.
  • 00:12:43.270 --> 00:12:45.190
  • You'll save yourself a whole lotta grief (laughs).
  • 00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:49.050
  • - If you need some friends to lift you up,
  • 00:12:50.140 --> 00:12:52.120
  • then you just might find them right here.
  • 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.140
  • - Connect with us on social media
  • 00:12:54.140 --> 00:12:55.290
  • and let us know how we can pray for you.
  • 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:58.060
  • - And the power of prayer,
  • 00:13:00.140 --> 00:13:02.020
  • like, reach out to them,
  • 00:13:02.020 --> 00:13:04.030
  • but also recognizing that your prayers interceding
  • 00:13:04.030 --> 00:13:06.260
  • for that person,
  • 00:13:06.260 --> 00:13:07.240
  • it's so powerful, like,
  • 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.200
  • and to let that person know that yeah, I'm praying for you.
  • 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.110
  • And, sometimes, there's lots of great technology,
  • 00:13:12.110 --> 00:13:14.170
  • like there's this app Marco Polo,
  • 00:13:14.170 --> 00:13:16.110
  • where it's like a video messaging service.
  • 00:13:16.110 --> 00:13:18.180
  • The people that will just pray for me over Marco Polo
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  • when I feel like I cannot open my mouth to pray,
  • 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:23.260
  • to have that person praying over me, it's amazing.
  • 00:13:23.260 --> 00:13:26.180
  • - That's priceless, isn't it? - It is.
  • 00:13:26.180 --> 00:13:28.030
  • When people come up and go, "You know I prayed for you
  • 00:13:28.030 --> 00:13:29.240
  • "the other day."
  • 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.290
  • Yeah, how do I thank you for that?
  • 00:13:30.290 --> 00:13:32.140
  • - I know - How do I thank you
  • 00:13:32.140 --> 00:13:33.280
  • you can't, you know.
  • 00:13:33.280 --> 00:13:35.230
  • For someone just to take the time
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  • and to whisper my name in their prayers, it's amazing.
  • 00:13:37.110 --> 00:13:40.020
  • There are people, beautiful people, all over the world,
  • 00:13:40.020 --> 00:13:44.070
  • that do that for us, you know?
  • 00:13:44.070 --> 00:13:45.240
  • - Just so incredible. - I think it goes
  • 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.120
  • to what you were saying when you were saying
  • 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.270
  • some of those people say, "Well, pray about it,"
  • 00:13:48.270 --> 00:13:50.110
  • and it's like sometimes that can be really difficult
  • 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:53.010
  • in that moment but I've oftentimes like said to people
  • 00:13:53.010 --> 00:13:56.040
  • and I don't like wanna make them uncomfortable,
  • 00:13:56.040 --> 00:13:58.020
  • but if they'll say like, "Can I pray for you?"
  • 00:13:58.020 --> 00:13:59.230
  • and like I just don't know how that'll work
  • 00:13:59.230 --> 00:14:01.170
  • in the exact time,
  • 00:14:01.170 --> 00:14:02.290
  • I'll genuinely say back to them,
  • 00:14:02.290 --> 00:14:04.140
  • "Could you please pray for me in your prayer time,"
  • 00:14:04.140 --> 00:14:07.020
  • because I'm like, look whether you pray for me right now
  • 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:10.210
  • or in 30 minutes or in a week, I'm gonna need it.
  • 00:14:10.210 --> 00:14:13.070
  • Like, whenever you think of it - and I'm trying to disappear
  • 00:14:13.070 --> 00:14:16.110
  • and go somewhere...
  • 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:17.180
  • - Exactly, as long as I know it's going
  • 00:14:17.180 --> 00:14:19.000
  • to the same one that I, you know, the real one,
  • 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:21.290
  • I'm good, man.
  • 00:14:21.290 --> 00:14:23.110
  • Like, if you could hold that prayer for a week,
  • 00:14:23.110 --> 00:14:25.080
  • or pray now and in a week, you know it's like,
  • 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.240
  • yeah, I think prayer, it's so important
  • 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.060
  • and it can be so helpful.
  • 00:14:31.060 --> 00:14:32.210
  • And, sometimes when you're in a certain dark place
  • 00:14:32.210 --> 00:14:35.260
  • it can, it's not that prayer is a wrong idea ever,
  • 00:14:35.260 --> 00:14:39.050
  • but I think that being strategic about, you know,
  • 00:14:39.050 --> 00:14:42.050
  • about those prayers...
  • 00:14:42.050 --> 00:14:43.200
  • I remember once I was, just on the end of what not to do,
  • 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.090
  • I was like 14 and I was going to a new youth group
  • 00:14:46.090 --> 00:14:48.200
  • and, this is so bad, but when I would go to new churches
  • 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.140
  • I would have to keep my diagnosis a secret
  • 00:14:53.140 --> 00:14:56.030
  • because I wasn't always welcome if I was not, you know...
  • 00:14:56.030 --> 00:15:00.140
  • And so, I was 14 and they found out
  • 00:15:00.140 --> 00:15:02.180
  • and my parents were not there
  • 00:15:02.180 --> 00:15:05.140
  • 'cause this would not have happened,
  • 00:15:05.140 --> 00:15:06.120
  • but it was at youth group.
  • 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:07.230
  • Three male pastors pulled me over to a corner
  • 00:15:09.050 --> 00:15:12.020
  • and laid hands on me and prayed very loudly
  • 00:15:12.020 --> 00:15:15.210
  • and it was terrifying as a 14 year old kid, you know,
  • 00:15:15.210 --> 00:15:20.020
  • in this context because I unfortunately was recognizing
  • 00:15:20.020 --> 00:15:23.220
  • like they're using their prayer,
  • 00:15:23.220 --> 00:15:26.090
  • but I feel like I'm being bullied, but it's prayer,
  • 00:15:26.090 --> 00:15:29.270
  • but it's good, right?
  • 00:15:30.280 --> 00:15:32.050
  • 'Cause it's prayer, but, but, but, but
  • 00:15:32.050 --> 00:15:35.020
  • I'm a kid and I don't like this, you know?
  • 00:15:35.020 --> 00:15:37.220
  • And I just, I remember that happening for a few more weeks
  • 00:15:37.220 --> 00:15:40.280
  • before I was able to talk to my parents about it
  • 00:15:40.280 --> 00:15:43.140
  • and able to tell 'em what was going on,
  • 00:15:43.140 --> 00:15:45.200
  • but as I become an adult now,
  • 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.170
  • it's really helped me to understand
  • 00:15:48.170 --> 00:15:50.010
  • that there is a season for everything,
  • 00:15:50.010 --> 00:15:53.150
  • there's a time for everything
  • 00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:54.290
  • and there may be times where God is calling us
  • 00:15:54.290 --> 00:15:58.050
  • to pray on someone's behalf. - Absolutely.
  • 00:15:58.050 --> 00:16:00.180
  • He's calling us to do things in a way
  • 00:16:00.180 --> 00:16:03.110
  • that maybe is different from what we would expect
  • 00:16:03.110 --> 00:16:05.060
  • Him to be calling us to do.
  • 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:06.130
  • There were times in high school...
  • 00:16:06.130 --> 00:16:08.130
  • I was diagnosed with Tourette's syndrome, OCD, ADHD,
  • 00:16:08.130 --> 00:16:11.230
  • and anxiety at 11 years old.
  • 00:16:11.230 --> 00:16:13.160
  • And then, I went into high school at 12 'cause, nerd.
  • 00:16:13.160 --> 00:16:16.090
  • There were times in high school and even college as well
  • 00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:19.080
  • where I would go visit certain churches
  • 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.250
  • and you just get in conversation
  • 00:16:20.250 --> 00:16:22.200
  • with people after church or whatever,
  • 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.170
  • and I learned at an early age
  • 00:16:25.170 --> 00:16:27.190
  • that I was going to have to,
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:29.110
  • well, I chose at an early age
  • 00:16:29.110 --> 00:16:30.230
  • to keep my diagnosis a secret.
  • 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:32.160
  • Oftentimes, when I would tell people,
  • 00:16:33.220 --> 00:16:35.190
  • their immediate response was to pray for healing
  • 00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:39.060
  • and I love to pray and I have seen God move in ways
  • 00:16:39.060 --> 00:16:44.060
  • that only God can move.
  • 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:48.030
  • But, it was oftentimes really overwhelming
  • 00:16:48.030 --> 00:16:50.140
  • to almost feel as though they were saying
  • 00:16:50.140 --> 00:16:52.040
  • that my faith wasn't capable of getting what was needed,
  • 00:16:52.040 --> 00:16:57.040
  • that it was their faith,
  • 00:16:58.100 --> 00:16:59.090
  • if I could just pray for you,
  • 00:16:59.090 --> 00:17:01.000
  • if you would pray this way.
  • 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:02.150
  • And, it really sent me into this confusion
  • 00:17:02.150 --> 00:17:06.000
  • in my teen years of praying to God
  • 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:09.040
  • and saying well, am I praying wrong?
  • 00:17:09.040 --> 00:17:10.240
  • Am I not praying long enough?
  • 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.150
  • Am I not praying to the right songs?
  • 00:17:12.150 --> 00:17:14.210
  • Am I not in the right church?
  • 00:17:14.210 --> 00:17:15.280
  • Why haven't I gotten this total freedom
  • 00:17:15.280 --> 00:17:19.050
  • that people keep telling me
  • 00:17:19.050 --> 00:17:20.250
  • if I pray, I'll get it.
  • 00:17:20.250 --> 00:17:22.060
  • And, that really made it difficult for me to
  • 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:25.180
  • open up and to speak to people
  • 00:17:25.180 --> 00:17:27.110
  • about what I was going through and, you know,
  • 00:17:27.110 --> 00:17:29.050
  • as I've gotten older,
  • 00:17:29.050 --> 00:17:30.050
  • God has shown me so much grace
  • 00:17:30.050 --> 00:17:31.120
  • and He has definitely done incredible work
  • 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:33.240
  • when it comes to healing my heart and my mind.
  • 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.000
  • And, I'm definitely grateful for that
  • 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:38.210
  • and I hope to be able to use my voice
  • 00:17:38.210 --> 00:17:41.000
  • and my platform, my music to encourage
  • 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:42.240
  • other people out there
  • 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:44.000
  • that feel like they have to be quiet
  • 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:46.280
  • about their struggles
  • 00:17:46.280 --> 00:17:48.060
  • because they're not finished struggling.
  • 00:17:48.060 --> 00:17:50.210
  • And, I just hope that people can understand
  • 00:17:50.210 --> 00:17:53.200
  • that God is gonna work through those struggles
  • 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.160
  • and many times He will bring you completely out of it,
  • 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.240
  • on this side of heaven.
  • 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.020
  • But, sometimes it's the other side of heaven
  • 00:18:03.020 --> 00:18:04.290
  • and that is just as beautiful to wait for.
  • 00:18:04.290 --> 00:18:09.000
  • Man, I'll be like walkin' through Target sometimes
  • 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.020
  • and I'll be like, man, I feel like I need to pray
  • 00:18:11.020 --> 00:18:12.130
  • for that person and sometimes God'll have me
  • 00:18:12.130 --> 00:18:14.200
  • like legit go talk to that person and it'll lead
  • 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:16.220
  • to like I was texting with my mom
  • 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:18.030
  • and she was at the mall last night
  • 00:18:18.030 --> 00:18:19.100
  • and she was like sorry we're taking awhile,
  • 00:18:19.100 --> 00:18:20.290
  • your dad's witnessing to someone in the aisle,
  • 00:18:20.290 --> 00:18:23.000
  • (laughs) and, I'm like
  • 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:23.280
  • sometimes that's how it works.
  • 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:25.010
  • But, sometimes God is like,
  • 00:18:25.010 --> 00:18:26.210
  • no, I need you to take this back to your prayer closet,
  • 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:29.170
  • take this back to your war room.
  • 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:31.260
  • - Because I have walked through this dark depression,
  • 00:18:31.260 --> 00:18:36.230
  • my life verse, my scripture right now is Psalm 40:2-3.
  • 00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:41.230
  • It says, He lifted me out of the pit,
  • 00:18:42.290 --> 00:18:44.050
  • out of the mud and the mire.
  • 00:18:44.050 --> 00:18:45.230
  • He set my feet on a rock
  • 00:18:45.230 --> 00:18:47.030
  • and he gave me a new song to sing.
  • 00:18:47.030 --> 00:18:49.060
  • Many will hear what God has done.
  • 00:18:49.060 --> 00:18:50.240
  • They will be amazed
  • 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.010
  • and they will put their trust in Him.
  • 00:18:52.010 --> 00:18:53.210
  • I love that because it says what God did,
  • 00:18:53.210 --> 00:18:55.210
  • but it also says that other people
  • 00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:57.050
  • will see what God did through the brokenness in my life.
  • 00:18:57.050 --> 00:18:59.280
  • - You can stream Better Together episodes on the go.
  • 00:19:01.120 --> 00:19:04.020
  • Yes, so download the TBN app
  • 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:05.250
  • to watch our latest conversations.
  • 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:07.240
  • - I think there's an appropriate time to pray for somebody.
  • 00:19:11.170 --> 00:19:14.030
  • I definitely think that if God leads you to pray
  • 00:19:14.030 --> 00:19:16.250
  • for somebody, you need to do that,
  • 00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:18.270
  • 'cause that could be a life changing moment for someone.
  • 00:19:18.270 --> 00:19:22.080
  • But, I think if God just puts someone on your heart,
  • 00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:25.240
  • that there's an appropriate time and place,
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  • and not be weird, don't be weird about it.
  • 00:19:28.270 --> 00:19:30.130
  • - Something so powerful
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  • about praying for other people though.
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  • I think even when you're in the midst of your own problem,
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  • your own darkness, your own whatever it is
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  • that you're walking through,
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  • instead of spending all of your time praying for yourself,
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  • there really is something so freeing when,
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  • in the midst of your turmoil,
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  • you take the time to just focus your prayer
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  • on praying on behalf of somebody else.
  • 00:19:54.250 --> 00:19:56.140
  • It's funny because years ago,
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  • we talked about your brother, John,
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  • and if I actually, if I pulled out my, and you know this,
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  • if I pulled out my phone right now,
  • 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:04.280
  • you would know that at 9 a.m. every day,
  • 00:20:04.280 --> 00:20:07.100
  • an alarm goes off that says pray for John.
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  • And, it was her brother.
  • 00:20:09.250 --> 00:20:11.080
  • And like, two years ago,
  • 00:20:11.080 --> 00:20:13.170
  • it was a prayer that he would come to know Christ.
  • 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:15.190
  • - Yes. - I mean, that alarm's
  • 00:20:15.190 --> 00:20:17.010
  • been on my phone for probably four or five years,
  • 00:20:17.010 --> 00:20:19.000
  • I feel like - Wow, yes.
  • 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.070
  • - But two years ago, or whatever,
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  • he gave his life to Christ,
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  • and it was like, I never took it off my phone
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  • because it's like well now pray for John
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  • to grow in his faith,
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  • (laughs) - That's amazing.
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  • But, there's something that when you put those things,
  • 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.160
  • for me, I have to have reminders on my phone
  • 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.110
  • because I'm losing my mind with every passing year
  • 00:20:33.110 --> 00:20:36.130
  • and our children like suck our brain cells out of our head.
  • 00:20:36.130 --> 00:20:39.000
  • - Oh, - They do.
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  • You just start to lose your mind,
  • 00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:44.270
  • but I have to have those reminders
  • 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:46.040
  • and so I've got all these reminders
  • 00:20:46.040 --> 00:20:46.290
  • of people to pray for
  • 00:20:46.290 --> 00:20:48.060
  • but when you also focus so much of your time
  • 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:51.000
  • praying for other people,
  • 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:52.060
  • you just haven't had as much time...
  • 00:20:52.060 --> 00:20:53.230
  • - It's so true - To wallow in yourself
  • 00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:55.290
  • - Can you share like, what you said to our worship team
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  • about, and I love this,
  • 00:21:00.070 --> 00:21:01.260
  • because they were, this is where,
  • 00:21:01.260 --> 00:21:04.190
  • and I'm not talking about again,
  • 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:06.030
  • I'm just talking about our feelings overcoming us
  • 00:21:06.030 --> 00:21:09.140
  • and so this is more about what
  • 00:21:09.140 --> 00:21:10.270
  • everything is about how I feel, how I feel
  • 00:21:10.270 --> 00:21:13.070
  • and I love, just share that.
  • 00:21:13.070 --> 00:21:14.210
  • - Well, we had a team night
  • 00:21:14.210 --> 00:21:17.010
  • and it was a time to just kinda share
  • 00:21:17.010 --> 00:21:20.030
  • what you're going through and what you're facing.
  • 00:21:20.030 --> 00:21:22.220
  • And, I was sitting there
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  • and as probably the oldest person in that room,
  • 00:21:24.280 --> 00:21:28.160
  • (laughs)
  • 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:29.210
  • - Creative minds - Yeah, creative minds
  • 00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:31.100
  • so we all feel, creatives feel a lot,
  • 00:21:31.100 --> 00:21:34.170
  • we have a lot of feelings.
  • 00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:36.180
  • And, you know, I just said, just at the end of the night,
  • 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:39.220
  • I said, "I'm probably, I pray I don't offend any of you,
  • 00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:42.120
  • "but I've just heard so much about everyone's feelings.
  • 00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:44.290
  • "Like, we're talking a lot about our feelings
  • 00:21:44.290 --> 00:21:47.130
  • "and I fall into that trap, too, where we just talk
  • 00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:49.180
  • "about how we feel,
  • 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:50.290
  • "but the problem is is that I didn't hear a lot
  • 00:21:50.290 --> 00:21:52.280
  • "about who God is, just what God needed to do for you,
  • 00:21:52.280 --> 00:21:56.210
  • "how you felt, and what you were needing God to do."
  • 00:21:56.210 --> 00:21:59.230
  • And, we have the privilege of presenting our requests to God
  • 00:21:59.230 --> 00:22:03.230
  • so I don't actually want anybody to feel like I'm
  • 00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:05.260
  • saying don't ever pray for yourself,
  • 00:22:05.260 --> 00:22:07.120
  • but I just challenged them.
  • 00:22:07.120 --> 00:22:09.090
  • I said, "Hey, for the next week,
  • 00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:12.050
  • "don't even in your prayer life
  • 00:22:12.050 --> 00:22:13.150
  • "say I'm more than a conqueror
  • 00:22:13.150 --> 00:22:15.020
  • "because don't talk about yourself.
  • 00:22:15.020 --> 00:22:17.060
  • "For one week, just one week,
  • 00:22:17.060 --> 00:22:19.200
  • "just do not pray for yourself, one time.
  • 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.230
  • "Don't say I need you to do,
  • 00:22:22.230 --> 00:22:24.090
  • "or I am, or just nothing,
  • 00:22:24.090 --> 00:22:26.050
  • "just for one week say God you are,
  • 00:22:26.050 --> 00:22:28.260
  • "You are sovereign, You are in control, You are faithful,
  • 00:22:28.260 --> 00:22:31.290
  • "You are kind, You are redeemer,
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  • You are making all things new."
  • 00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:36.000
  • and, it was like this light bulb,
  • 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.200
  • I could actually see the light bulb go on in their heads,
  • 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.270
  • and I didn't feel like it was anything profound,
  • 00:22:39.270 --> 00:22:42.080
  • but I felt like it was so often we get into this mindset
  • 00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:45.070
  • where we are talking about how we feel,
  • 00:22:45.070 --> 00:22:49.010
  • especially as women 'cause we do have a lot of feelings,
  • 00:22:49.010 --> 00:22:52.080
  • and we talk about how we feel
  • 00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:53.220
  • and we talk about how we need the Lord to do for us,
  • 00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:55.180
  • and we talk about what we need, you know?
  • 00:22:55.180 --> 00:22:58.090
  • But, if just for one week,
  • 00:22:58.090 --> 00:23:00.100
  • if you're watching,
  • 00:23:00.100 --> 00:23:01.180
  • I'm gonna give you that challenge,
  • 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.100
  • for one week, just one week,
  • 00:23:03.100 --> 00:23:05.270
  • just open up your bible and find all the things
  • 00:23:05.270 --> 00:23:09.020
  • that you know about God,
  • 00:23:09.020 --> 00:23:10.090
  • all the things the word says about who He is,
  • 00:23:10.090 --> 00:23:13.020
  • write 'em down and pray that.
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  • Just declare it for one whole week,
  • 00:23:14.170 --> 00:23:16.100
  • just declare God you are, you are, you are, you are,
  • 00:23:16.100 --> 00:23:18.140
  • and after a week your problems aren't gonna be gone,
  • 00:23:18.140 --> 00:23:21.070
  • but I bet you will have thought about them
  • 00:23:21.070 --> 00:23:23.170
  • a lot less.
  • 00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:24.150
  • - Well, and the bible says to pray for others
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  • so that you may be healed.
  • 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.190
  • - That's right. - Yes.
  • 00:23:29.190 --> 00:23:30.240
  • - Because I'm somebody who is actually walking out
  • 00:23:32.080 --> 00:23:35.070
  • victory and freedom from depression,
  • 00:23:35.070 --> 00:23:38.130
  • I'm not somebody who is looking back
  • 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:40.020
  • to say I did that, I overcame it,
  • 00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:42.240
  • and the story is done.
  • 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.110
  • I'm actually somebody who's in the middle of walking it out.
  • 00:23:44.110 --> 00:23:46.280
  • I want to speak to somebody who's watching right now
  • 00:23:46.280 --> 00:23:50.260
  • and you feel alone and you feel in the dark,
  • 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:54.090
  • you feel like nobody cares.
  • 00:23:54.090 --> 00:23:56.120
  • Can I tell you, as your sister in Christ,
  • 00:23:56.120 --> 00:23:58.270
  • that you are not alone,
  • 00:23:58.270 --> 00:24:00.270
  • that God has actually called us to walk together
  • 00:24:00.270 --> 00:24:03.240
  • in community with one another.
  • 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.250
  • And, I wanna encourage you,
  • 00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:07.100
  • if you've got one person that you can reach out to,
  • 00:24:07.100 --> 00:24:10.050
  • and it may be somebody that you've never
  • 00:24:10.050 --> 00:24:11.250
  • actually talked to on that level,
  • 00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:13.280
  • we need to have somebody who can lower us to Jesus
  • 00:24:13.280 --> 00:24:18.250
  • the way that we see presented in the Gospels.
  • 00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:22.000
  • And, if you don't have that right now,
  • 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:23.120
  • can I be that person for you?
  • 00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:25.020
  • And, can I pray for you in this moment?
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  • Father, we thank you that you see us
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  • and that you know us.
  • 00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:35.120
  • You know when we sit and when we rise.
  • 00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:37.230
  • You receive our thoughts from afar.
  • 00:24:37.230 --> 00:24:39.270
  • You discern our going out and our lying down.
  • 00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:41.270
  • You are familiar with all our ways.
  • 00:24:41.270 --> 00:24:44.040
  • I pray for that sister right now who is watching
  • 00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:46.100
  • that feels like they're unknown and unseen.
  • 00:24:46.100 --> 00:24:49.160
  • Father, would you allow your flood of grace and acceptance
  • 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:53.120
  • and mercy to fall upon them right now in the name of Jesus.
  • 00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:57.220
  • Would You help them to lift them out of that dark place?
  • 00:24:57.220 --> 00:25:01.120
  • You say, in your word, in Psalm 40,
  • 00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:03.180
  • when David was confessing that he lifted me
  • 00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:06.020
  • out of the pit, out of the mud and the mire,
  • 00:25:06.020 --> 00:25:08.020
  • he set my feet on a rock and he gave me a new song to sing.
  • 00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:12.010
  • I love that he says in verse three
  • 00:25:12.010 --> 00:25:13.150
  • that many will see what God has done
  • 00:25:13.150 --> 00:25:15.040
  • and will be amazed and put their trust in the Lord.
  • 00:25:15.040 --> 00:25:18.030
  • I'm asking on behalf of my sister watching right now
  • 00:25:18.030 --> 00:25:21.030
  • that many would see what you have done in her life,
  • 00:25:21.030 --> 00:25:24.100
  • that they would be amazed and they will put their trust
  • 00:25:24.100 --> 00:25:26.110
  • in the Lord.
  • 00:25:26.110 --> 00:25:27.270
  • Where it is dark, God, would you let your light shine in?
  • 00:25:27.270 --> 00:25:31.020
  • Where there is hopelessness,
  • 00:25:31.020 --> 00:25:32.260
  • would you let your light of hope shine in?
  • 00:25:32.260 --> 00:25:34.290
  • God, where there is bondage,
  • 00:25:34.290 --> 00:25:37.190
  • would you let your freedom shine in right now?
  • 00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:40.030
  • Would you give us steps that we can take
  • 00:25:40.030 --> 00:25:42.050
  • to walk this thing out to the abundant victory
  • 00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:44.160
  • that you've called us to walk.
  • 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.080
  • We trust you, we believe you,
  • 00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:47.270
  • and even if we can't say that in our hearts,
  • 00:25:47.270 --> 00:25:50.050
  • Lord, we speak it out of our mouths,
  • 00:25:50.050 --> 00:25:52.070
  • and by that simple act of declaration,
  • 00:25:52.070 --> 00:25:54.150
  • I'm asking for your love and your light to shine in
  • 00:25:54.150 --> 00:25:56.230
  • on my sister, in Jesus' name. Amen.
  • 00:25:56.230 --> 00:26:00.060
  • - If you or a loved one are struggling
  • 00:26:00.060 --> 00:26:02.010
  • with anxiety or depression, you are not alone.
  • 00:26:02.010 --> 00:26:05.020
  • - You can call the number on your screen
  • 00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.200
  • to talk to a prayer partner.
  • 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.050
  • We're here for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
  • 00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:11.130
  • We love you and most importantly, God loves you.
  • 00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:13.280
  • - You guys need three samples of the theme song
  • 00:26:15.100 --> 00:26:17.240
  • from Better Together.
  • 00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.010
  • We've got, you know, my southern gospel roots.
  • 00:26:19.010 --> 00:26:20.280
  • We could go, you know, bring in a little banjo like
  • 00:26:20.280 --> 00:26:22.170
  • Better Together oh, yeah.
  • 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:26.260
  • Like, you know southern gospel range there.
  • 00:26:26.260 --> 00:26:28.270
  • (beep)
  • 00:26:28.270 --> 00:26:30.130
  • If you need more like hip hop, you know, laid back,
  • 00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:31.080
  • have time
  • 00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:32.210
  • We are better together, don't you know it
  • 00:26:32.210 --> 00:26:36.010
  • (beep)
  • 00:26:36.010 --> 00:26:37.120
  • and then if you wanted somethin' like more upbeat like
  • 00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:39.110
  • Oh, oh, the sun is shinin'
  • 00:26:39.110 --> 00:26:41.040
  • We're better together
  • 00:26:41.040 --> 00:26:42.120
  • No matter the weather
  • 00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:43.190
  • We're better together
  • 00:26:43.190 --> 00:26:45.230
  • (beep)
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  • That's where we minister from.
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  • Watch Better Together right here on TBN.
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