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September 10, 2019
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In the fight against anxiety and depression, can you recognize the warning signs that you or a loved one is entering a danger zone? | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000

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  • - How do you recognize when emotions cross
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  • into the danger zone?
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  • Let's talk about it.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - I was diagnosed with anxiety,
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  • and OCD, ADHD, and Tourette's Syndrome
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  • when I was 11 years old, and I'm almost 28 this year.
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  • I've always struggled with trying to find that balance of
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  • when am I being anxious, when am I stressed,
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  • when am I being irrational,
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  • when is this a character flaw,
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  • and then when is this my chemical imbalance?
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  • When is this my brain,
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  • the stuff that showed up on the MRI, you know?
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  • When is that?
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  • As a Christian, that's something
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  • that I've always kind of struggled with
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  • because I've wanted to be like,
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  • "Okay, God, I know you can heal obviously,"
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  • but then also this is a character flaw.
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  • This isn't anxiety.
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  • Just, it's hard to find that balance sometimes
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  • of where the struggles are.
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  • I was even talking about isolation.
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  • Unfortunately, that's been one of my favorite things
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  • and one of my most unhealthy coping mechanisms.
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  • But I've just really had to honestly rely
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  • on my family so much to point out
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  • when things start to get a little murky,
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  • and when things start to get a little dark.
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  • My parents live in both California and Georgia
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  • so they're not always nearby.
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  • But a few months ago, I was on the phone with my mom,
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  • and about 25 minutes into the conversation,
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  • she could tell that I was talking really fast.
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  • I don't know how she can guess my heart rate over the phone,
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  • but whatever, moms. (everyone laughs)
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  • It was like she could just sense it,
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  • and she stopped me in the middle of my tracks,
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  • and she said, "When's the last time you saw your counselor?"
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  • It was so frustrating to have that accountability,
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  • but it was so needed to have that accountability
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  • because there are different warning signs
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  • as to when, say, I'm stressing over
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  • what to wear for an event versus when I'm having
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  • so much anxiety about that event
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  • that I can't make myself move, you know?
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  • So I've had to recognize those warning signs,
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  • but I've also had to recognize that it's
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  • so imperative for me to be intentional with who's
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  • in my circle and who's in my corner,
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  • so that they can call me out
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  • when they recognize the things
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  • that are different in my behavior.
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  • My mom has been my biggest support system,
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  • even when I was diagnosed with everything at 11 years old.
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  • She's actually the person that printed out
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  • all the paperwork and took it to the doctor and was like,
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  • "This is what my kid's got."
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  • They were like, "Oh, okay."
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  • "Our two years of research?
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  • "You've knocked it out in like two weeks."
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  • I mean, my dad's great and my sister's great,
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  • but my mom has been like my homeschool mom,
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  • and she's been with me every step of the way.
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  • In my adulthood, it's been really great.
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  • But I will say, that it's still a choice.
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  • It's not a, oh, my mom's gonna help me, I'll be fine.
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  • It definitely takes a lot of humility.
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  • It takes times where,
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  • there was actually a time about halfway
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  • through my pregnancy where I had a breakdown.
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  • And I think a lot of it was
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  • what you would call classic pregnancy (laughs),
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  • but a lot of it was my anxiety.
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  • My husband called my mom and he said, "She needs you."
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  • For a lot of people, that might seem (laughing)
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  • so embarrassing, and it was a little embarrassing,
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  • but I needed her, and I knew I needed her.
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  • She's able to look at me and say,
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  • you know, "You're talking really fast.
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  • "You seem really anxious.
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  • "When's the last time you saw your counselor?"
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  • Or when I was on medication, I'm not anymore,
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  • but there was a time where she would say,
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  • "It seems like you may have missed it today.
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  • "Did you take your medication?"
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  • It's just that accountability.
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  • It's not just saying,
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  • "Oh, she's gonna hold me accountable,"
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  • but it's humbling yourself to allow someone
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  • that close into the dark with you,
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  • so that when they recognize
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  • that you're stepping out of the light,
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  • they can bring you back.
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  • - I heard a preacher a long time ago say HALT.
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  • The warning signs are when you're hungry,
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  • angry, lonely and tired.
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  • For somebody who has struggled
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  • with my weight my entire life,
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  • I can say I'm very rarely hungry.
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  • But, for me, I recognize when I'm eating so much,
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  • and for me it's sugar, that I'm making myself sick,
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  • that's a warning sign for me.
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  • When I'm really quick to be angry about something,
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  • that's a big warning sign for me.
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  • As a single woman, I live in the loneliness,
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  • but I think there is a difference
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  • between isolating, and just needing some time by myself.
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  • Then there is the tired thing for me,
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  • it's when I'm sleeping a lot.
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  • That's when I know that I've crossed over
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  • into that danger zone.
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  • - It's not productive sleep anymore.
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  • - That's, I know, I recognize when the danger zone is.
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  • For me it is, okay, what am I going to do to get out of it?
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  • And you said something a little bit ago
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  • about speaking to God out loud.
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  • There's something about hearing him audibly,
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  • and also quieting myself
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  • to give him permission to speak to me.
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  • I don't give him space to speak enough.
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  • I think that's one of the practical things
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  • that I need to do to get myself out of that pit,
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  • is to talk out loud.
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  • It just makes it a little bit more tangible for me.
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  • - Well, and because when you do that,
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  • you're speaking out loud so you actually feel
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  • like you're having a conversation with somebody real.
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  • I think sometimes when we have it in our mind
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  • it keeps it kind of make-believe.
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  • But when you speak out loud, you're like, okay,
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  • I'm having a conversation with somebody real,
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  • even if you don't hear a voice speaking back at you.
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  • Also, I speak the Word of God out loud
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  • because it seems sometimes I feel like
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  • that sounds so elementary, but I mean,
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  • I am a paper-and-pencil person,
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  • so I write the Word of God out,
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  • and then I read it because I'm a visual learner,
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  • so I have to see my own handwriting.
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  • Then I read it out loud.
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  • And I think you even said, it's 'cause when you read it,
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  • you're not only speaking and declaring it,
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  • but then you're also hearing it.
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  • It's like this constant cycle,
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  • so, it's an empowering cycle of speaking and hearing.
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  • - Whenever you feel any of those things,
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  • just know you need to be on guard
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  • because that is often where the enemy likes
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  • to come and rush in.
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  • For me, when I recognize that I'm starting to go
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  • to that place, I have a choice to make.
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  • I can either choose to wallow and stay in that place.
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  • And I've done that more times than I care to admit.
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  • Or, I can do something,
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  • whether that is putting on worship music,
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  • or getting on my elliptical trainer,
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  • or just getting out into the sunlight,
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  • or just having coffee with a friend.
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  • That interrupts the enemy's power over my life.
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  • And it stops.
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  • It let's you halt.
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  • It let's you not go and to wallow into
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  • that place of darkness, but it interrupts the flow
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  • of you walking into that dark place.
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  • - It's like one of those times where you just have
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  • to get that place of looking at the warning signs,
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  • and I thought about when you said all
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  • those triggers, you know?
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  • I think, what are the triggers?
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  • Sometimes you've got to go to that trigger.
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  • What is now causing me, there has to be.
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  • Because I had struggled with an eating disorder
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  • for 20 years of my life.
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  • But there were triggers that would send me into that space.
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  • It was because there was a disconnect with my mum and I,
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  • and there was a root of rejection.
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  • When those rejection triggers would get set off,
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  • that's then what would put me back into
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  • that bad-patterned behavior.
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  • So I'd have to go there.
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  • And in that place, this is where you really have
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  • to learn to encourage yourself in the Lord.
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  • This is where our Christianity and our faith has
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  • to come into play, in these times.
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  • It's not just about our devotional times.
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  • It's not about us going to church.
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  • It's actually using the tool of God's Word.
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  • The Holy Spirit is called our counselor,
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  • our teacher, our comforter, our advocate.
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  • That is the person of the Holy Spirit.
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  • He has all the answers.
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  • He has all the right counsel.
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  • And so you've got to go in and go, okay, Holy Spirit,
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  • what is it in me right now
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  • that I, what's triggered me?
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  • Why do I wanna go to that sugar?
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  • Why do I wanna starve myself?
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  • Why now do I wanna punish myself?
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  • Why do I wanna isolate?
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  • Why?
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  • Where is the root?
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  • Because I really believe,
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  • and just watching that through the years,
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  • the symptom I believe is depression,
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  • anxiety, eating disorder,
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  • overeating, undereating, shopping.
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  • Any addiction is a symptom.
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  • We're trying to target symptom,
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  • when actually there is a root
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  • that we're not getting to.
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  • So you can cut off and touch the symptom all the time,
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  • but you're not getting to the root.
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  • So when we get to that root,
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  • then we don't repeat that behavior.
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  • I know for my son, who struggled with fear of dying
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  • at the age of 11 because, we didn't realize it at the time,
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  • he'd had a traumatic experience where he'd fallen
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  • out of a tree 12 foot high
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  • onto his head and was severely concussed.
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  • From that moment, he used to feel this fear and anxiety,
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  • and it was about a year where it
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  • just kept getting worse and worse.
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  • I felt the Lord say, "Ask him to meet me in prayer,
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  • "and say, okay, where's Jesus?"
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  • I remember taking him to that place,
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  • and he had his eyes closed.
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  • I said, "Okay, Taylor, where's Jesus?"
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  • He said "He's with me."
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  • And I said, "Ask Jesus where the first feeling
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  • "of fear came in."
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  • And quick as anything, he said,
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  • "Oh, I know exactly when that happened, mummy.
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  • "It's when I fell out of the tree.
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  • "I was so scared that from that day on.
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  • "I thought I was gonna die young."
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  • And I'm like, "That is a lie."
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  • That's a lie, that his life is gonna be cut short.
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  • And I said, "Well, what does Jesus say about it?"
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  • As quick as anything again, he said,
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  • "Jesus said that I've got every day ordered for you,
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  • "and I know how many days, and I'm gonna protect you."
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  • It was like this thing just fell off him,
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  • and he just began to believe the truth
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  • that Jesus is going to protect him.
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  • Jesus is going to take care of him.
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  • And that whatever happens, God is in control.
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  • I watched this little boy go from fear to faith,
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  • and since that day has never had a panic attack,
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  • or had that fear of dying.
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  • It's amazing how we go to the root.
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  • - It's really something that is being talked about
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  • worldwide now, which, I'm about to show my age,
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  • but back in my day (everyone laughing)
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  • - Stop.
  • 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.050
  • - This was not a subject that we spoke about at all.
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  • So when I faced it, I felt so much shame
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  • that I thought, I can't talk about this.
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  • I'm supposed to be up here on this stage
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  • singing about how good and gracious God is,
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  • and if people knew the things that I struggle with,
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  • they would think so much less of me.
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  • I realized that keeping it hidden,
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  • was keeping me in that stuck place.
  • 00:11:02.220 --> 00:11:04.150
  • But, man, once we started talking about it,
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  • the freedom that came flooding in was life-changing for me.
  • 00:11:07.100 --> 00:11:10.040
  • So I'm so glad that we're having this conversation.
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  • - Another question from Facebook.
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  • Christina writes, "I never experienced anxiety
  • 00:11:15.070 --> 00:11:18.140
  • "until almost three years ago.
  • 00:11:18.140 --> 00:11:20.070
  • "Our home flooded in 2016, and we lost everything.
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  • "Now, any time it rains, I have panic.
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  • "If I hear the phrase, flood watch, my heart races.
  • 00:11:27.050 --> 00:11:30.210
  • "If it rains for more than one day,
  • 00:11:30.210 --> 00:11:32.220
  • "I almost go into a full nervous breakdown.
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  • "How can I keep hold of God's promises,
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  • "and hold on to my peace?"
  • 00:11:37.180 --> 00:11:39.010
  • - Honestly, I love this question
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  • because I didn't experience a flood that lost everything.
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  • But in the five years we lived in a home in Melbourne,
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  • every single heavy rainfall,
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  • our bedroom ceiling would literally split open
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  • and completely flood our bedroom.
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  • Every year it would happen.
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  • It got to a point, like this beautiful Christina,
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  • that when it started to rain,
  • 00:12:05.250 --> 00:12:07.140
  • the panic would set into my heart.
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  • I wouldn't be able to sleep.
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  • And one night, I'll never forget it.
  • 00:12:11.130 --> 00:12:13.280
  • I lay there, and I just was like,
  • 00:12:13.280 --> 00:12:15.280
  • "God, I don't wanna hate the rain!
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  • "Like, I'm starting to hate the rain."
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  • And I lay in my bed and I felt the Lord say,
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  • "Where was I in the midst of the storm?"
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  • It feels like almost spiritual,
  • 00:12:27.100 --> 00:12:29.070
  • but it was so incredible 'cause he just went,
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  • "Where was I in the midst of the storm?"
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  • I said, "You were asleep."
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  • I said, "You were asleep."
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  • And there was this storm, and he goes,
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  • "Nothing happened to my disciples or me
  • 00:12:37.140 --> 00:12:39.280
  • "because I want you to have that same posture right now
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  • "and believe that I will not let this roof, again, leak."
  • 00:12:43.040 --> 00:12:48.040
  • And I was like, "But how do I trust that?"
  • 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:50.180
  • "'cause it's leaked every other time."
  • 00:12:50.180 --> 00:12:52.070
  • I think my fear just used to rise up every time.
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  • But I remember this one time,
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  • I'm gonna make a decision, Lord.
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  • I'm laying here, and I'm gonna believe
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  • that you are perfect peace.
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  • And I can speak to the elements.
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  • And I've learned to have authority over the elements.
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  • I say, rain, you may rain all
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  • around the perimeter of this home
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  • but you will not leak in this roof again.
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  • I've done that through, like a tornado.
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  • Where we had little ping-pong balls on the lawn.
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  • Our trash can was flown like blocks
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  • but those ping-pong balls remained one night
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  • 'cause I said, "Lord, I speak to the elements,
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  • "and I will sleep through this storm
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  • "and our property will not be touched."
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  • The next morning, ping-pong balls are all on the lawn.
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  • I think sometimes God's actually wanting us
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  • 'cause he was teaching the disciples how to have faith
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  • in a storm, and I know that that trauma,
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  • first of all I would say pray for that trauma
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  • to be released.
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  • Just go, Lord, where that door got opened was fear
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  • because of that trauma.
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  • Come out of agreement with that trauma
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  • and now speak the perfect peace over your life.
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  • Believe it in your heart and watch what God will do.
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  • I'm gonna pray for you 'cause that happened to me,
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  • not as severe but same principle.
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  • - Beautiful.
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  • - We want you to join the conversation.
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  • - Connect with us on social media and let's get
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  • Better Together! - Better Together!
  • 00:14:13.090 --> 00:14:16.040
  • - So let me ask this because talking about
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  • getting to the root, I saw you on the phone
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  • with your son the other day,
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  • and the way that you walked him through,
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  • "Okay, well, how did that make you feel?"
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  • And I realize I never learned that as a child.
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  • Like, I never learned how to actually go
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  • to what am I feeling right now?
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  • Where is God in that?
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  • So there is a part of me that thought,
  • 00:14:38.260 --> 00:14:40.180
  • well, she's talking to her young son.
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  • I'm a something-old woman. (everyone laughs)
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  • I'm not gonna say the age, but I'm a old woman.
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  • (laughing drowns out Natalie)
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  • There's a part of me that feels like I should have learned
  • 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:51.160
  • this a long time ago but I didn't--
  • 00:14:51.160 --> 00:14:53.070
  • - And that's okay.
  • 00:14:53.070 --> 00:14:54.150
  • This is where God is a redeemer of time.
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  • - Absolutely.
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  • - It doesn't matter whether you get it at 40.
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  • My mum got it later on in life too.
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  • See, we've gotta bring Jesus into every situation
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  • otherwise what's the point of the death and resurrection?
  • 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:09.070
  • What's the point of it?
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  • He didn't die so that we could cope.
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  • He didn't die so that we could manage.
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  • He died so, he said, Galatians 5:1, "It is for freedom
  • 00:15:15.050 --> 00:15:18.260
  • "that Christ came to set us free."
  • 00:15:18.260 --> 00:15:22.010
  • You don't go and entangle yourself
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  • back into the bonds of slavery.
  • 00:15:24.010 --> 00:15:26.020
  • So there's this thing where, literally,
  • 00:15:26.020 --> 00:15:28.050
  • I should be a nutcase at this age, literally.
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  • Like, I should be a nutcase.
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  • And I won't go into speaking
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  • on anyone else in my families I have.
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  • My cousin and I, we were on the same trajectory of life.
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  • She was bound with anxiety, fear, depression.
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  • She became a drug addict.
  • 00:15:46.270 --> 00:15:48.050
  • But our root systems were the same.
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  • We both suffered abuse on different levels.
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  • She also endured sexual abuse.
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  • Now, I'm not in control.
  • 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.220
  • There's all these triggers that happen
  • 00:16:00.220 --> 00:16:02.210
  • and the body has coping mechanisms.
  • 00:16:02.210 --> 00:16:04.170
  • It's actually the way God sometimes let me self-protect.
  • 00:16:04.170 --> 00:16:07.140
  • But then there's a freedom from that.
  • 00:16:07.140 --> 00:16:09.260
  • This is where we've gotta be aware of those moments
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  • 'cause the Bible actually says it, doesn't it?
  • 00:16:13.130 --> 00:16:16.050
  • In a ways, it's be anxious for nothing.
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  • But, he's gonna give us the keys now,
  • 00:16:20.180 --> 00:16:23.010
  • but in everything with prayer and petition
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  • with thanksgiving make our requests known to God
  • 00:16:29.170 --> 00:16:34.080
  • and the peace of God that transcends
  • 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.130
  • all understanding guides our heart,
  • 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:41.260
  • our mind in Christ Jesus.
  • 00:16:41.260 --> 00:16:45.160
  • - I loved when Alex said that God didn't die
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  • so that we can cope.
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  • It made me think about how he came
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  • to give us an abundant life,
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  • and that means more than the riches and the things
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  • of this world that I think the world would say is
  • 00:16:56.130 --> 00:16:58.170
  • what an abundant life is.
  • 00:16:58.170 --> 00:17:00.050
  • It means it's a spiritual abundance.
  • 00:17:00.050 --> 00:17:02.060
  • It means being able to live with joy and with peace.
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  • When I think about that, I just feel like God wants me
  • 00:17:05.280 --> 00:17:08.170
  • to do more than just survive this.
  • 00:17:08.170 --> 00:17:10.170
  • He wants me to do more than just simply make it
  • 00:17:10.170 --> 00:17:12.280
  • through this depression.
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  • He wants me to come out of it with the spoils of war.
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  • He wants me to be able to use my testimony
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  • to minister to somebody else who's walking
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  • through that same thing.
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  • That's, to me, what an abundant life is all about.
  • 00:17:23.050 --> 00:17:25.230
  • - Now it might not happen overnight.
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  • But you keep doing that.
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  • You keep doing that every time you're presented
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  • with that moment of shut-down
  • 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:33.220
  • instead of staying isolated.
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  • It's okay.
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  • In everything with prayer.
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  • I might just be able to cry out to God today.
  • 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:42.280
  • I don't even have the words today.
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  • It's okay.
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  • Maybe I've got just a song, maybe a whimper.
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  • But in everything with thanksgiving,
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  • God I thank you that you're with me right now
  • 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:52.070
  • even though I don't feel like it.
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  • See it's, you know?
  • 00:17:53.280 --> 00:17:55.110
  • - I think that's really important.
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  • I've learned in my journey as well, like,
  • 00:17:57.010 --> 00:17:59.040
  • I definitely live for freedom.
  • 00:17:59.040 --> 00:18:00.280
  • I mean, I think freedom is a beautiful thing
  • 00:18:00.280 --> 00:18:02.190
  • for so many different reasons.
  • 00:18:02.190 --> 00:18:04.110
  • I've definitely learned that God is so capable
  • 00:18:04.110 --> 00:18:08.170
  • of doing so many things.
  • 00:18:08.170 --> 00:18:09.250
  • I've seen people that are cancer-free now
  • 00:18:09.250 --> 00:18:13.110
  • that we never thought they would recover.
  • 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:14.240
  • I've seen marriages restored that I never knew
  • 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.050
  • if they were gonna recover from what they went through.
  • 00:18:17.050 --> 00:18:20.110
  • But a lot of my hope, all of my hope,
  • 00:18:20.110 --> 00:18:24.170
  • has come from the freedom
  • 00:18:24.170 --> 00:18:26.020
  • that I will ultimately have in heaven.
  • 00:18:26.020 --> 00:18:28.010
  • Oftentimes, when I talk about my story
  • 00:18:28.010 --> 00:18:30.200
  • and having been diagnosed with anxiety
  • 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:32.180
  • and all these things people talk about healing
  • 00:18:32.180 --> 00:18:35.140
  • and how it's going to give me exact freedom.
  • 00:18:35.140 --> 00:18:38.100
  • 'Cause God gives us everything pray for.
  • 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:40.210
  • In my story, I've learned that God doesn't
  • 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.020
  • always answer every prayer exactly how I ask.
  • 00:18:44.020 --> 00:18:47.070
  • That heaven is where I'll experience the ultimate freedom
  • 00:18:47.070 --> 00:18:50.110
  • of all of what God can do
  • 00:18:50.110 --> 00:18:51.280
  • because if I experienced it all here on this earth,
  • 00:18:51.280 --> 00:18:54.260
  • then I would have nothing to look forward to in heaven.
  • 00:18:54.260 --> 00:18:58.060
  • A part of my journey has been learning to understand
  • 00:18:58.060 --> 00:19:00.140
  • that there are going to be things in my life
  • 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:02.140
  • that God is not gonna fix in the way that I would interpret.
  • 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:05.090
  • He's going to fix them, but he's not in the way
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  • that I would interpret.
  • 00:19:06.290 --> 00:19:08.060
  • What I've learned from studying the Word of God
  • 00:19:08.060 --> 00:19:10.260
  • and from just this journey that God has brought me on is
  • 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:13.190
  • that my weeping may last for a night,
  • 00:19:13.190 --> 00:19:16.000
  • but my joy is gonna come in the morning.
  • 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.070
  • While some people do experience complete freedom
  • 00:19:18.070 --> 00:19:20.170
  • from anxiety and depression,
  • 00:19:20.170 --> 00:19:22.170
  • coping has been what God has given me
  • 00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:24.160
  • because if I didn't learn how to cope,
  • 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.130
  • I would have taken my life five, six, seven,
  • 00:19:26.130 --> 00:19:28.290
  • tried at least five, six, seven times by now.
  • 00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:31.170
  • I know that it can seem unhealthy
  • 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:34.200
  • to encourage women to learn to cope,
  • 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.270
  • but I know that God has graced me enough
  • 00:19:36.270 --> 00:19:39.030
  • to learn to cope.
  • 00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:40.170
  • - I think the healing too sometimes that we say
  • 00:19:40.170 --> 00:19:45.120
  • that healing, well, he hasn't healed me
  • 00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:49.230
  • because we're looking at our symptoms.
  • 00:19:49.230 --> 00:19:51.220
  • So we're looking at, oh, cancer, that didn't get healed.
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  • I think first, I heard this incredible quote
  • 00:19:57.180 --> 00:19:59.230
  • from Tim Keller-- - I love Tim Keller.
  • 00:19:59.230 --> 00:20:01.090
  • - That said, "God always answers prayer.
  • 00:20:01.090 --> 00:20:05.100
  • "He answers it in the way we would have asked
  • 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:08.230
  • "if we know what he knows."
  • 00:20:08.230 --> 00:20:10.180
  • And I love that idea.
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  • Like, he does.
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  • Don't ever think he's not answering.
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  • He always answers.
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  • He answers it in the way that we would ask
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  • if we actually know what he knows.
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  • So I do think that God does heal us.
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  • He might not heal the cancer.
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  • He might not heal.
  • 00:20:24.010 --> 00:20:25.210
  • But he does heal me because he gives me the ability
  • 00:20:25.210 --> 00:20:28.190
  • to be free-- - That's right.
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  • - In the midst of the circumstance.
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  • It might not be he's healing the circumstance,
  • 00:20:32.250 --> 00:20:34.260
  • but he has healed me.
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  • There's a difference.
  • 00:20:36.250 --> 00:20:38.020
  • - Who says that a healed body is better
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  • than a healed heart or more important
  • 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:41.270
  • than a healed heart?
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  • Because that's what the plan of God is,
  • 00:20:43.060 --> 00:20:46.070
  • to heal our hearts and to bring freedom inside
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  • and to overcome.
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  • The Bible says we'll walk through struggles.
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  • We'll walk through trials.
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  • But I have overcome them all.
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  • I think that living in the freedom
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  • that you're overcoming something
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  • and trusting in a sovereign God.
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  • We won't understand why all the time,
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  • but even in your depression,
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  • God will meet you there in a place
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  • in your coping and just maintaining your situation.
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  • God will meet you in a place
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  • that out of that, that becomes your platform
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  • because he has overcome, and no matter what we feel,
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  • no matter what our circumstances are,
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  • doesn't change God and who he is.
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  • He is still the Great Physician.
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  • He is the healer.
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  • He is the joy that surpasses all understanding
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  • so that in everything we are more than conquerors.
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  • So through just believing God, you know,
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  • I love David, again, back to David.
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  • - [Jamie] He's so great. - He's a good one!
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  • - He didn't win his victories because he was a good fighter.
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  • It was because he believed well.
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  • - Come on, that's so good.
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  • - And that's where his victory came from.
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  • If I believe well.
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  • And so we are going to believe well
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  • with each other, and we're going to believe.
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  • I love Jesus when he says to his disciples, "You go.
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  • "I'll meet you on the other side."
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  • Knowing they're gonna go through the worst storm,
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  • the worst depression.
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  • - [Natalie] He allowed it.
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  • - The worst--
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  • - One of the things that brought me through my depression
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  • is that story.
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  • - [Laurie] And what did he do?
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  • He went and he prayed.
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  • I pray that your faith is strong.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - 'Cause I know what you're getting ready to go through
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  • and I'm praying that your faith stays strong.
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  • - Because when you're in it, you're going through it,
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  • that's where your faith develops.
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  • That's where you learn perseverance.
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  • - That baby is the currency of heaven.
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  • It's our belief and our faith in what this Bible says.
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  • That Jesus came and (Natalie drowns out Laurie).
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  • - And your confession, you know, Jesus said I am that I am.
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  • We are created in his image.
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  • Something that is another huge tool for me is
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  • what am I confessing, not out loud over my life,
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  • 'cause I don't walk around saying I am stupid
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  • or I am fat or I am, but I say it in my mind, oh.
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  • We don't even realize--
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  • - How much you're talking to yourself (laughs).
  • 00:23:10.250 --> 00:23:12.070
  • - When negative thinking, and I'm not about
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  • this big power of positive thinking,
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  • but at the same time, when we don't take
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  • every thought captive, and it's not a one time thing.
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  • Sometimes it's an every minute thing
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  • for you to take every thought captive.
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  • It's like, okay, if I am that I am,
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  • then if I'm in his image and I'm his reflection,
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  • if I'm thinking I am less, no, I'm not,
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  • 'cause that would be saying that he is.
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  • And he isn't.
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  • Because I am, so I am.
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  • - If you're struggling with anxiety or depression,
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  • I want you to know first and foremost
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  • that you are not alone.
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  • It says in the Word of God,
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  • like there's so many times where it's so apparent
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  • that other people are going through stuff too (laughs)
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  • and you are not the first person to go through this
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  • and you won't be the last one.
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  • One of my favorite scriptures is Psalm 30:5.
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  • It says, "Weeping may endure for a night,
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  • "but joy comes in the morning."
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  • That passage has carried me through
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  • so many complex and difficult times,
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  • of knowing that weeping may last one entire night,
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  • but God's joy, God's beautiful and incredible
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  • and unmistakable joy will come in the morning.
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  • I just wanna pray with you guys.
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  • I just wanna pray with you guys right now
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  • that you will be able to receive God's joy
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  • no matter what season you're in.
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  • Dear God, we love you so much,
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  • and we're just so grateful that you just showered us
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  • with grace and new mercies every day,
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  • just to be able to walk in the joy that you've given us
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  • no matter how much anxiety we may be feeling,
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  • no matter how much stress or frustration
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  • or weeping we may be experiencing, God.
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  • I'm just so grateful that your joy is so present.
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  • God, I just ask for any person out there watching,
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  • if they're going through a season
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  • of anxiety or depression, if they're dealing
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  • with a diagnosis of anxiety or depression,
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  • if they're just dealing with mess and stress (laughing),
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  • God, I just ask that you would shower them with joy
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  • during the weeping, after the weeping,
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  • and before the next time (laughing)
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  • the weeping may show up, God, we just ask for your joy.
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  • We also ask for your peace,
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  • for the ability to recognize and understand
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  • when these things are showing up,
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  • when these things are trying to take precedence
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  • over our lives, God, we ask for your discernment
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  • so that we can ourselves reach to you and ask
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  • and accept your peace and your joy
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  • that you've already given us, Lord.
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  • We love you so much,
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  • and it's in your Son's precious name, we pray, amen.
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  • - If you are or a loved one are struggling
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  • with anxiety or depression, you are not alone.
  • 00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:37.230
  • You can call the number on your screen
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  • to talk to a prayer partner.
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  • We're here for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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  • We love you, and most importantly, God loves you.
  • 00:25:44.030 --> 00:25:46.270
  • - I think a good take away too is just overcoming the stigma
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  • that, one, Christians don't struggle with panic (laughing),
  • 00:25:50.280 --> 00:25:55.040
  • anxiety and depression, because that's an untruth.
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  • Two, that if you struggle with panic, anxiety,
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  • fear, depression, that you are less of a Christian,
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  • that you are less godly.
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  • I think that is the part that keeps
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  • so many people struggling alone is that shame
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  • of, oh, it means I'm not as close to God
  • 00:26:15.110 --> 00:26:18.070
  • or I'm not a good Christian or I don't love God enough.
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  • I think that the more we talk about it
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  • and the more we bring it into the light,
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  • the less people can stay in the dark.
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  • I think that was really, really important today.
  • 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:31.260
  • - So this question's from Facebook.
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  • Kimberly wants to know, "What does anxiety look like
  • 00:26:35.030 --> 00:26:37.170
  • "and how do you stop it?"
  • 00:26:37.170 --> 00:26:39.000
  • Anxiety can look like so many different things.
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  • It's not always gonna be the same.
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  • I know some women can, well, people in general can struggle
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  • with feeling stressed out, feeling overwhelmed,
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  • and then there are actual anxiety disorders
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  • and different things, but the first thing that I would
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  • always tell someone is to make sure you reach out.
  • 00:26:55.230 --> 00:26:58.220
  • I know it's easier said than done.
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  • I personally would rather just hide myself in the room
  • 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:03.270
  • and just wait till it's over,
  • 00:27:03.270 --> 00:27:05.030
  • which that's going to work,
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  • trust me from experience (laughing).
  • 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.160
  • I would encourage you to reach out,
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  • and that might mean calling a friend,
  • 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.080
  • that might mean calling a family member.
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  • That might be going online
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  • and setting up a counseling session
  • 00:27:16.290 --> 00:27:18.160
  • or connecting with your pastor
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  • or a counselor at work or school.
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  • Just being intentional about reaching out
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  • and letting people know that you're feeling overwhelmed,
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  • feeling maybe overworked and you wanna try
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  • to find resources to be able to overcome that
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  • and work through it.
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  • - I think Better Together empowers women
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  • to know that we can do this together,
  • 00:27:38.050 --> 00:27:40.090
  • that everybody is on a journey
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  • and that nobody has made it.
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  • Nobody has arrived.
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  • What women are gonna be able to see is that,
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  • hey, they went through the same struggles
  • 00:27:48.290 --> 00:27:51.060
  • that I'm maybe facing right now,
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  • but they're on the other side of it.
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  • Or perhaps they're gonna show me
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  • how to get through it the way they got through it.
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  • So it helps us understand that, hey, you're
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  • not the only one that's gone through this
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  • and that there is a way out, and that you will overcome.
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  • (light guitar music)
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