Identifying the Root | Better Together
January 14, 2020
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Identifying the Root | Better Together
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- - Emotional scars from our past may
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- be the cause of our brokenness today.
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- One step toward healing can be rooted
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- in identifying those hurts.
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- Come on, let's join the conversation.
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- - So I had this one moment that
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- literally was like a turning point for me,
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- but I didn't see it as that,
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- I saw it as one of the worst things that could happen.
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- I had been admitted to a psychiatric hospital
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- because I kind of fell apart.
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- I mean, I just had a breakdown where I couldn't breathe,
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- I couldn't walk, I couldn't survive.
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- So I end up in this hospital and the first morning,
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- I meet with my therapist.
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- And he holds up this chart and it had all these words on it.
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- Sad, angry, afraid, ashamed.
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- I mean, 20 words.
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- And he said to me, "Okay, Shelia, I want you to come over
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- "and point to the words that you identify with."
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- And I looked at the chart
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- and I looked at him and I said,
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- "I don't identify with any of them.
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- "I'm not angry, I'm not sad."
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- I was just so shut down inside
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- that one of the things that when you suppress,
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- the trauma in my childhood, when you suppress fear,
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- when you put shame into the basement of your soul,
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- which, you know, says if guilt tells me
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- I've done something wrong,
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- shame tells me I am something wrong.
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- You can't just suppress the bad stuff,
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- you suppress that good stuff too.
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- And as I looked at that chart and I thought,
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- "People feel all this stuff?"
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- And it was the beginning of this journey
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- to try and understand why I hated myself so much.
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- I mean, I'd been a contemporary Christian artist for years.
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- I sang at Billy Graham's crusades.
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- I had been a co-host of "The 700 Club" for five years.
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- But still, when I looked in the mirror,
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- I still saw the little girl whose dad appeared
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- to hate her in the end.
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- And that's all I saw.
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- And so that was the beginning.
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- See that's what I think about the mercy of God.
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- Mercy is such a little word, but it weighs so much.
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- I would have just gone on like that for the rest of my life,
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- but God said, "No."
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- Christ said, "I've come to give you life."
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- Not survival, not just getting
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- through one more day, but life.
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- - That's so good.
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- - And I'll never forget, I was there for a month.
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- I mean, it was one of the most radical months of my life.
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- And there was a small group of us, maybe like 10 of us,
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- that were in at the same time.
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- And at the end, the day I was due to leave,
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- a therapist said, "Okay, guys, I want you all
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- "to go around the room
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- "and tell Sheila what you like about her."
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- And I couldn't stand it.
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- And he got my body language and he said,
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- "Okay, what is wrong with you?"
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- I was comfortable facing all that was bad with me,
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- you know, what I didn't want to deal with.
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- But suddenly to get these positive affirmations
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- from people I was on this journey with was really hard.
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- And he said, "Okay, you sit there
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- "and you open your hands and you open your heart
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- "and you listen."
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- And it was just this beautiful way of God saying,
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- "Believe it or not, I was there in those worst days
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- "and you've never lived and unloved moment in your life
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- "and I'm here now
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- "and I'm gonna walk you through this process."
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- Honestly, I would go through all of that again
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- for the way that I've seen Christ redeem it.
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- Because there's a difference between wounds and scars.
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- Wounds are raw and you need time to heal.
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- But when they're scars, then you're able
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- to reach out to other people and comfort them
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- with the same comfort with which you have been comforted.
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- - Bear each other's burdens.
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- - I just see the way that God is a redeemer.
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- - He is, yes he is. - With the worst
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- of childhood trauma. - Yes, he is.
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- - It's interesting to me how your past can shape the way
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- that you kind of look at life
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- and experience life in the present moment.
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- Things that were poor choices, things that you're
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- like totally ashamed of, totally embarrassed of
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- that you just beat yourself up over.
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- Those can shape the way that you're able to see life now
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- and today and experience.
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- For me, the fact that, you know,
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- a failed marriage, the whole thing.
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- It has given me this like ability to walk out life
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- with my husband and my kids
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- with this attitude of just gratitude.
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- I am so grateful that even through all my junk,
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- God saw fit to bless me with an amazing husband,
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- who is faithful, who is a great daddy,
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- who loves God far more than he could ever love me.
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- - And it's so powerful when we think of wounds and scars.
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- It's like wounds you become the one needing the healing,
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- the focus is on you.
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- But when it's scars, it's like now you can reflect back.
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- Like the scripture says, "It's the old landmark."
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- It's a landmark of a previous pain,
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- a previous pain that was so fragile, vulnerable.
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- But now you can speak from that place and say,
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- "I wanna talk to you about the wound
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- "that you're walking through, this is the scar
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- "that shows proof of God's healing in my life."
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- - It's the proof.
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- - Yeah, it's the proof in the pudding.
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- - I finished speaking at a women's event last year
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- and I noticed there was one gentleman in the audience
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- and I thought maybe he was the pastor
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- just kinda listening in,
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- making sure I wasn't gonna go wacky.
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- - So funny, that's the best.
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- - But at the end, he had stayed over in one area,
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- and when almost everyone else had gone,
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- he came over and he turned his face towards me
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- for the first time and I saw that half of his face was gone.
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- And I asked him what his story was
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- and he said when he was 15 years old,
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- he put a gun underneath his.
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- - Wow.
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- - And in that millisecond between
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- when the bullet left the chamber and entered his skull,
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- he heard Jesus say, "Do you want to live?"
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- And he said, "Yes."
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- - Wow.
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- - And he's now married with three beautiful daughters
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- and I said to him, "When you see your reflection
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- "in the mirror, is a reminder of that devastating day?"
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- And he said, "No, it's a daily reminder
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- "of the grace of God."
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- And that's why I think we tell each other our stories.
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- Because so many women think I'm the only one.
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- - That's when the healing can begin,
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- is when we acknowledge it and share it.
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- 'Cause you never know what you're walking through.
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- I don't know what you're going through,
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- you don't know where I'm going.
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- We have to share
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- and bear each others' burdens and walk together.
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- - You know, it's where it says, "Bear one another's burdens,
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- "and so fulfill the law of Christ."
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- Two verses further on, it said,
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- "Each man must carry his own load."
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- And I thought, explain that to me, Lord.
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- - I was just reading that.
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- - It's the word used in Greek for ship's load.
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- So it means there's some things that you walk through
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- that are too much to carry by yourself.
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- - That's good.
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- - And then the word that's used for carry your own load
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- is what Christ has designed us all to carry.
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- But there's situations in life where you're like,
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- I can't carry this by myself.
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- And that's when we move in to one another's lives.
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- But I often ask women in conferences,
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- okay, I want you to imagine this.
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- When you walk through these doors,
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- suddenly all your baggage became visible.
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- And you have to drag it to your seat.
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- - Run! (laughing)
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- - She said, "run!" (laughing)
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- - And I say, I'm not talking
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- about your pillow and your snacks,
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- I'm talking about the stuff you've buried since childhood.
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- But then I say, if you saw it,
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- would you want to take it home?
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- Or would you want to take Christ up on that glorious offer.
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- At the end of Matthew 11, the last two verses,
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- "Come onto me all who weary and heavy laden,
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- "and I will give you rest."
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- - You know, going back to this idea of people not knowing
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- what you're carrying,
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- you know, I didn't grow up in a Christian home.
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- Like I didn't hear Jesus, God, Bible, church,
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- any of that until I was invited to church when I was 11
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- by my classmate in the sixth grade.
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- And I will never forget, you know,
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- when I walked into the church that day,
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- those people were so loving and they were so kind,
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- but they didn't know
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- that I had survived two suicide attempts.
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- Like they didn't know that at nine years old I tried
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- to take my life and at 11 I tried to take my life again,
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- because of just all the disfunction and the trauma
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- and feeling like I didn't matter.
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- - Disfunction was your norm. - The abuse.
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- Yeah, and like that's why we have to be so careful
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- to not hurt people.
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- Because you just don't know, you don't know.
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- It's like, you know, we get into situations
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- with somebody who's rude to us, right.
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- And our first instinct is to be like
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- wait a minute, let me tell you who I am.
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- But then we have to take a step back
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- and be like, you know what, that person is obviously angry
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- because there's something going on in their life.
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- It's like, how can I be a blessing to them?
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- - And I've always compared those like deep contrasts.
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- It's like, they have everything but they're bitter.
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- And this person has nothing but they're so much better.
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- And I've often seen the case of that
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- in life when we are working through healing.
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- We've seen people walk through divorce.
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- We've seen, you know, even in my own life,
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- people walk through some serious scenarios
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- and yet they have overcome
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- and they have a great way at looking at life.
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- My encouragement for all of you is like
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- when we're walking through life,
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- just focus on being better.
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- Focus on walking away with something that is,
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- that's worth more than becoming
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- the person that you despise the most.
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- Like we've met them, we've heard their conversations
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- and it's like you wanna go and take a shower,
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- because they're so negative, you know?
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- It's like, do I wanna be that?
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- And I think, for me, if I can be quite honest,
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- there was a point in my life that I was so negative.
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- I was hard, I was hard on myself, my kids were small.
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- My relationship with my husband,
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- it was getting tense as the years went on,
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- because stuff that I did not resolve,
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- and I kept blaming other people instead of looking at me,
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- instead of looking at the person in the mirror
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- and actually noticing, you know what,
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- you're the common denominator in this whole scenario
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- and you are your own worst enemy.
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- So my encouragement to you is just get better.
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- Get healing, you know, fight for it.
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- You know, you don't have a right to be negative
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- and unforgiving, but you do have a right to healing.
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- And so that's what I aim for.
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- Now I feel better, I look better,.
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- I, you know, I have less wrinkles, thank you, Jesus.
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- You know?
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- And I don't need Botox, Hallelujah!
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- But it's the attitude of looking at life
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- with the glass full instead of the glass empty.
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- It's having a better attitude
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- and working through tense situations
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- and walking away with a better outcome
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- than to be argumentative and ornery and mean-spirited.
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- No one wants that.
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- No one wants that at a party.
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- No one wants to invite that as well.
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- So just know that you can get better after trauma,
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- after serious inner stuff that happened to you.
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- You can walk away with a better life.
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- - It's hard because, you know,
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- when we're nursing our own trauma,
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- the first thing we wanna do is lash out.
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- And we don't have tolerance and we don't have patience,
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- but that's what the love of God is.
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- And I mean, oh my God, I think about
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- when Jesus hung on that cross, think about this,
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- in all his pain, all of his trauma, before he died,
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- he forgave two people who were hanging next to him.
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- - I know.
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- - I mean, imagine that.
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- Like you have enough love--
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- - To walk in that kind of forgiveness.
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- - It's incredible.
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- - And we're getting ticked off at the person
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- who ran the red light.
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- And like, what are you doing, seriously?
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- Cuts us off, what are you doing?
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- - Like what, what manner of love is that?
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- And so, to me, that's the power of redemption,
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- is like you don't know what somebody is carrying,
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- but you love 'em anyway.
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- - I can tell whether I react or respond.
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- - Yeah, oh yeah. - That's good.
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- - The difference is reaction,
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- it's like an immediate thing but we wanna fight back.
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- Response is when we can listen
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- to what the person's actually saying and then respond.
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- One of my daily prayers every morning is this.
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- Lord, give me eyes today to see what I'm gonna miss.
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- Give me ears to hear behind what somebody's saying.
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- Like I was at the conference in Chicago,
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- and I was listening to a woman at the end
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- of the conference tell a little bit of her story to me.
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- And this other woman kinda stuck her head in between us,
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- so it was hard to ignore her.
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- (laughing)
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- And she said, "I'm so sick of hearing
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- "about your perfect family."
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- And I said, "Wait with me just for a moment."
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- And I took a little walk with this woman
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- and I turned and I asked her a question.
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- I said, "What happened to you?"
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- - That's good.
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- - And at first look I thought she was gonna deck me.
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- - Or who hurt you?
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- - But she fell into my arms.
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- She's buried two sons.
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- - Wow. - Oh.
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- - She was reacting out of her pain.
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- And if we could learn as God's daughters
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- to be conduits of grace to one another,
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- you know, where people are reacting all the time.
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- Holy Spirit, what's going on here?
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- - The truth about pain is that,
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- you know, especially when it causes bitterness,
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- it begins to seep into every area of our life.
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- I've experienced situations
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- where bitterness created a lack of joy in my life
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- and as a result, good things would happen,
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- but I couldn't enjoy them.
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- I couldn't actually experience them,
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- because the bitterness had seeped
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- into every area of my life.
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- It doesn't stay localized.
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- Resentment does not stay localized.
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- This is why we have to let it go.
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- This is why we have to forgive.
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- I often think of bitterness as drinking poison
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- and expecting it to kill the other person.
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- It ends up hurting you.
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- And so you really do have to let it go
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- or else the beauty that God puts right in front of your eyes
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- will be missed, because the lens
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- that you're filtering it through is the pain of the past.
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- - God always gives us that chance,
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- that moment, that blink.
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- That thought.
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- And he gives us a choice. - He does.
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- - Of how to respond or how to react,
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- you know, to everything we go through.
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- - But I love how you framed that.
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- We're so quick to ask somebody, "What's wrong with you?
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- "What's wrong with you?"
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- It's not what's wrong with you, it's what happened to you?
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- - Oh, that is a good one.
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- - What happened to you to make you act that way?
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- Who hurt you?
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- And I think we're so quick to be like,
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- oh, just cutting people off and blocking people
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- and don't call them anymore.
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- - That's so true. - Unfollow.
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- - Yeah, unfollow.
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- I mean, something happened
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- and I love the idea of being a conduit of grace.
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- Because we are truly the incarnation
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- of God's grace on this earth.
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- So how can we extend that to people that hurt us?
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- - And one of my favorite old Scottish preachers said,
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- "There's a broken heart in every pew."
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- One of the things that played out in my own life
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- was I found it very hard to connect with people.
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- Because I remember seeing "Cinderella" as a little girl
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- and all my friends loved it and I hated it.
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- - Why?
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- - Because I'm thinking, do not tell me
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- there's a prince coming to rescue me.
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- There is nobody coming to rescue me.
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- I'm gonna have to rescue myself.
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- Of course, I went on in life to discover
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- there is a Prince of Peace and he's coming to rescue me.
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- - That's right!
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- - But at first I had a wall around my life.
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- You know, if you needed me, I'd try and help you,
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- but I didn't let anybody get close
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- in case you saw what my father saw.
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- - Really, wow.
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- - And that was a learning thing for me.
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- Even with my son, I adore my son, I would die for my son.
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- But I realized I still had a bit of a barrier even there
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- and it was my husband who asked me about it one day.
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- "Do you ever find it hard to connect with Christian and I?"
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- And I was like,
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- - That's good.
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- - Yeah, I think I do.
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- And it was just, to me it's this process
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- of peeling back all the layers
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- and where they went back to and replacing that
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- with this, I can honestly say at 63,
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- my best friend in life is Jesus.
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- I love my husband, I love my son,
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- but there's just something about he's always with us.
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- His grace is always there.
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- I walk into every new situation and I'm like,
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- "Here we are, Lord, now what's gonna happen next?"
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- - Without God's grace and mercy, I would not be here.
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- I think about my life
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- and I'm literally a statistical anomaly.
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- There is no explanation for how someone
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- who experienced seven years of childhood sexual abuse
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- and physical abuse could have the type
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- of life that I have now.
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- There's no explanation for why I haven't been locked up.
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- There's no explanation for
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- why I don't have children out of wedlock.
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- There's no explanation for why I'm not addicted to drugs.
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- All of those things should have happened.
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- And yet they didn't, because God's grace
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- and his mercy is real.
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- - Jesus heals all wounds.
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- Because no matter, well, we've seen it.
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- People are given time.
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- Either they get worse, some bitter
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- or either they get better. - That's true.
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- - If you allow the Lord to come into your life,
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- to go an excavate the deep parts of you,
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- to take a flashlight and go into every room of your heart
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- and let him do some serious inspection,
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- when you come to that place,
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- then you've surrendered everything.
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- And he takes the moment,
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- because redemption and salvation, it's instantaneous.
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- Wholeness, it happened for Lazarus
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- when he was told to get out of the crypt, out of the grave.
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- But it took other people to remove the grave's clothes.
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- That's what the scripture says.
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- And so it was a process.
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- There were next steps.
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- So whatever the next step is, I think for many of us,
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- it's allowing the Lord to go into your life
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- and begin to remove the grave's clothes,
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- the stench of death.
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- The woman with the issue of blood, the same thing.
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- She's been suffering on the inside,
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- no one knew that she was-- - No one could see it.
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- - No one could see it.
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- Those are internal things, those are embarrassing things.
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- - That's the worst.
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- - You know, and for a female to have the stench of that,
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- roaming around, especially in those times.
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- They don't have the technology.
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- - Sure don't.
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- - They don't have the technology that we have.
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- But now, you know, looking back, it's like
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- that's something she carried for 12 years internally.
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- She just got fed up and she's like, "This is my moment,
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- "this is my chance."
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- - Do or die.
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- - Yes, and so time.
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- Does time heal all wounds?
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- No, but time in the hands of Jesus heals all wounds.
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- - Yes.
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- - You know, I was thinking about,
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- when you just pictured Jesus at the cross
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- and they took all shame, took all sorrow.
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- He took everything that we would suffer with into his body
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- so that we could be made whole.
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- And he is our redeemer and that is the good news
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- of great joy to all the world, to every nation, every tribe,
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- every tongue, that we have a savior.
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- And I was thinking of this kind of inner healing week
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- and, you know, I think inner healing has gotten a bad rap
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- at times in my mind,
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- but I've heard people talk about,
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- I just felt like I took Jesus by the hand
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- and I walked into that space. - Great visual, yeah.
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- - You know, I walked into that bedroom
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- where I was being molested.
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- I walked into those places of trauma.
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- - Pain.
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- - But God was with me.
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- Jesus, and I just was kinda going
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- through this in my mind this week.
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- And to think that Jesus absorbs all of that pain.
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- He absorbs all of that shame, all that trauma.
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- Believe that he did it for us. - He's doing it.
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- - And that he, you know,
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- when he died on the cross he said, "It's finished.
- 00:20:09.070 --> 00:20:13.170
- "I've taken it all for you.
- 00:20:13.170 --> 00:20:15.190
- "I have done everything for your freedom,
- 00:20:15.190 --> 00:20:19.210
- "for your redemption, for your peace,
- 00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:22.220
- "for your salvation, for your joy, for your life.
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- "I have given you life
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- "and I've given it more abundantly to you."
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- And if we can take our pain and our shame,
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- take Jesus in it with us, know that he took it for us,
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- and believe that, believe that I am a child of God
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- and I am set free.
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- Before he died, he said, "I have given you my peace.
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- "Peace I'm leaving here for you.
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- "Let not your heart be troubled and let it not be afraid."
- 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:57.210
- - One of the most beautiful redemption stories in the Bible
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- is the story of Peter. - Yes, oh my goodness.
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- - And in Matthew chapter 16, Jesus told Peter,
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- he said, "You are Peter and upon this rock,
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- "I will build my church."
- 00:21:10.280 --> 00:21:12.120
- I always thought it was interesting
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- that he told Peter who he was as if that was a question.
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- And it's interesting to me
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- because if you fast-forward to I think it's Matthew 26
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- where Peter denied Jesus,
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- it says that the rooster crowed
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- and Peter became filled with shame.
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- Because he remembered what he had done, he denied his Lord.
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- But before the rooster told Peter he was a traitor,
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- Jesus had already told Peter he was a builder.
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- Before Peter had to confront his shame,
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- Jesus already told him, "I've purposed you."
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- And I think all of us have to remember this,
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- is that no matter what has happened,
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- Jesus has already purposed us.
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- He's already purposed us and there is nothing that we can do
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- to disqualify what God wants to do through us.
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- We have to accept that. - To look up.
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- Psalms 34 says, "Those who look to him for help
- 00:21:56.220 --> 00:22:00.080
- "will be radiant with joy.
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- "No shadow of shame will touch their faces."
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- - (laughs) I love that.
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- - Sometimes it's just changing where you look.
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- We look back with Christ,
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- and we take him to those dark places,
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- and we find his peace and his presence there,
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- but then we look forward and we press on.
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- You what's interesting?
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- If you take the word depression
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- and you rearrange the letters, what you get is I pressed on.
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- - No! - Yes!
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- - [Jaci] Where did you discover that, that's so cool!
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- - I had the word in front of me,
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- because I was asked to speak at a mental health symposium
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- and I thought, you know, this is really interesting.
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- - I love that.
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- - Because do I have a diagnosis of clinical depression?
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- Yes, but in Christ everyday, I press on.
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- Because I know who he says I am.
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- - That's right, that's right.
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- - That's beautiful.
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- - I just want you to know
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- it's no accident that you're watching this.
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- That God is very close to you.
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- Scripture says, you'll find it Psalm 34
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- that the Lord is close to the brokenhearted
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- and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
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- If that's you today,
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- I would love the privilege of praying for you.
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- Let's pray together.
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- Father, I thank you so much
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- that even through this medium we can come together
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- before the throne of grace and mercy.
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- And, Lord, I ask for my sister, for my brother
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- who's watching right now.
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- Lord, I pray that you would, by your Holy Spirit,
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- help them to see the root of what's been causing them
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- so much pain in their life.
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- And, Lord, I ask that you would give them the grace
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- to bring the broken pieces to you
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- because I believe that what other people would throw away,
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- you don't throw away.
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- You touch us with your healing love
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- and you bring such wholeness to us
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- so that we're able, then, to minister to others.
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- But for the one who thinks there's no hope, Lord,
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- I ask right now that you would help them understand
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- that you are hope, that you are life,
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- that you are truth and that you see them
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- and that you love them.
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- And I ask this in the beautiful, wonderful,
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- powerful name of Jesus.
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- Amen.
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- - My biggest takeaway from today's conversations
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- is just the recognition that no matter what we all look like
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- we all have trauma.
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- There's something that has happened
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- to every single one of us
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- that has changed the way that we see the world,
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- it's changed the way that we show up in the world.
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- I think it's changed our understanding of who we are.
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- And as I was sitting in this circle of women
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- who are so powerful and so dynamic,
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- and hearing everyone's stories,
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- it just reemphasized to me that fact
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- that we are all united by pain
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- and yet we are all ignited by purpose.
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- So for me, it becomes the realization
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- that we all have part
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- in this tapestry of the story of humanity.
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- I am so grateful for the women I was able
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- to listen to today, learn from today,
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- because they are all overcomers
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- through the word of their testimony
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- and I'm just grateful to have been
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- included in the conversation.
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- - When it comes to soul ties, it manifested in my bedroom.
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