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February 15, 2021
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Where is God in the midst of our broken world? If we believe that God is good; we must learn to respond with His love. | TBN Prayer Line: 714-731-1000

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 196

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  • - LISA HARPER: IN A HURTING,
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  • - LISA HARPER: IN A HURTING,BROKEN WORLD, WHERE IS GOD?
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  • BROKEN WORLD, WHERE IS GOD?IF HE IS TRULY GOOD, WHY DO BAD
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  • IF HE IS TRULY GOOD, WHY DO BADTHINGS HAPPEN?
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  • THINGS HAPPEN?TODAY, WE ARE EXPLORING THE
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  • TODAY, WE ARE EXPLORING THEDEPTHS OF GOD'S LOVE.
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  • DEPTHS OF GOD'S LOVE.COME ON.
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  • COME ON.WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
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  • ♪ MUSIC ♪
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  • ♪ MUSIC ♪♪ MUSIC ♪
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  • ♪ MUSIC ♪- LISA BEVERE: I REMEMBER
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  • - LISA BEVERE: I REMEMBERBEING SO CHALLENGED AROUND THIS
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  • BEING SO CHALLENGED AROUND THISIDEA THAT GOD IS LOVE...AND HE
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  • IDEA THAT GOD IS LOVE...AND HEACTUALLY WANTS SOMETHING GOOD
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  • ACTUALLY WANTS SOMETHING GOODFOR MY LIFE.
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  • FOR MY LIFE.I REMEMBER I WAS PROBABLY
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  • I REMEMBER I WAS PROBABLYMARRIED FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS,
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  • MARRIED FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS,AND, GOD REALLY CONFRONTED ME.
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  • AND, GOD REALLY CONFRONTED ME.HE SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT, LISA?
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  • HE SAID: YOU KNOW WHAT, LISA?YOU BELIEVE I AM.
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  • YOU BELIEVE I AM.AND YOU BELIEVE I LOVE YOU.
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  • AND YOU BELIEVE I LOVE YOU.BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT I AM
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  • BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT I AMGOOD FOR YOU.
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  • GOOD FOR YOU.AND I REMEMBER FEELING SO
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  • AND I REMEMBER FEELING SOCHALLENGED BY THAT.
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  • CHALLENGED BY THAT.HE SAID: NOW, LISTEN, IF
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  • HE SAID: NOW, LISTEN, IFANYBODY ELSE COMES TO YOU AND
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  • ANYBODY ELSE COMES TO YOU ANDTHEY WANT PRAYER, YOU BELIEVE
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  • THEY WANT PRAYER, YOU BELIEVETHAT I'M GOOD FOR THEM.
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  • THAT I'M GOOD FOR THEM.BUT I NEED YOU TO BELIEVE THAT
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  • BUT I NEED YOU TO BELIEVE THATI AM GOOD FOR YOU.
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  • I AM GOOD FOR YOU.SEE, A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE OF
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  • SEE, A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE OFTHE BAD IN OUR LIVES OR THE BAD
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  • THE BAD IN OUR LIVES OR THE BADTHINGS THAT WE SEE, WE BEGIN TO
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  • THINGS THAT WE SEE, WE BEGIN TOBECOME VERY CONFUSED THAT GOD
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  • BECOME VERY CONFUSED THAT GODIS GOOD.
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  • IS GOOD.NOW, ONE OF THE SCRIPTURES --
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  • NOW, ONE OF THE SCRIPTURES --EPHESIANS IS PROBABLY MY
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  • EPHESIANS IS PROBABLY MYFAVORITE BOOK IN THE NEW
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  • FAVORITE BOOK IN THE NEWTESTAMENT -- BUT EPHESIANS 3:18
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  • TESTAMENT -- BUT EPHESIANS 3:18SAYS -- NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT
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  • SAYS -- NOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT-- IT SAYS: "AND MAY YOU HAVE
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  • -- IT SAYS: "AND MAY YOU HAVETHE POWER TO UNDERSTAND..."
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  • THE POWER TO UNDERSTAND..."SEE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT
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  • SEE, THERE ARE THINGS THATHAPPEN IN OUR LIVES THAT REDUCE
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  • HAPPEN IN OUR LIVES THAT REDUCEOUR ABILITY TO HAVE THE POWER
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  • OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THE POWERTO UNDERSTAND "AS GOD'S PEOPLE
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  • TO UNDERSTAND "AS GOD'S PEOPLESHOULD, HOW WIDE, HOW LONG, HOW
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  • SHOULD, HOW WIDE, HOW LONG, HOWHIGH, AND HOW DEEP HIS LOVE
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  • HIGH, AND HOW DEEP HIS LOVEIS."
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  • IS."WHAT IS IT SAYING?
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  • WHAT IS IT SAYING?IT SAYS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE
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  • IT SAYS THAT YOU WOULD HAVETHIS CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND
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  • THIS CAPACITY TO UNDERSTANDGOD'S IMMEASURABLE,
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  • GOD'S IMMEASURABLE,ALL-CONSUMING LOVE FOR US.
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  • ALL-CONSUMING LOVE FOR US.BUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THINGS
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  • BUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THINGS-- LIKE, I LOST AN EYE WHEN I
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  • -- LIKE, I LOST AN EYE WHEN IWAS 5 TO CANCER, I HAD PARENTS
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  • WAS 5 TO CANCER, I HAD PARENTSTHAT WERE NOT LOVING TO ONE
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  • THAT WERE NOT LOVING TO ONEANOTHER -- WHEN YOU GO THROUGH
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  • ANOTHER -- WHEN YOU GO THROUGHTHINGS LIKE THAT, YOU CAN BE
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  • THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU CAN BECONFUSED THAT GOD ISN'T GOOD
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  • CONFUSED THAT GOD ISN'T GOODFOR YOU, BUT HE'S GOOD FOR
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  • FOR YOU, BUT HE'S GOOD FOREVERYBODY ELSE.
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  • EVERYBODY ELSE.SO, IF GOD'S LOVE IS PERFECT,
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  • SO, IF GOD'S LOVE IS PERFECT,WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S
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  • WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'SACTUALLY PERFECTING US.
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  • ACTUALLY PERFECTING US.SO, HAVE YOU EVER FELT
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  • SO, HAVE YOU EVER FELTCHALLENGED TO KNOW THAT GOD IS
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  • CHALLENGED TO KNOW THAT GOD ISGOOD, SHEILA?
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  • GOOD, SHEILA?HAS THAT EVER BEEN SOMETHING
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  • HAS THAT EVER BEEN SOMETHINGWHERE YOU'RE LIKE, "WAIT, WAIT,
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  • WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, "WAIT, WAIT,GOD -- I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOOD
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  • GOD -- I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOODFOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT NOT FOR
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  • FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT NOT FORME"?
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  • ME"?- SHEILA WALSH: I MEAN,
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  • - SHEILA WALSH: I MEAN,INITIALLY, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN I
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  • INITIALLY, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN IWAS YOUNG, YOU KNOW, WHEN MY
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  • WAS YOUNG, YOU KNOW, WHEN MYFATHER, WHO HAD BEEN SUCH A
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  • FATHER, WHO HAD BEEN SUCH AGOOD, GODLY MAN, BUT THROUGH
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  • GOOD, GODLY MAN, BUT THROUGHTHIS TERRIBLE BRAIN ANEURYSM,
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  • THIS TERRIBLE BRAIN ANEURYSM,YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY COMMITTED
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  • YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY COMMITTEDSUICIDE.
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  • SUICIDE.AND SO, IT-- YOU'RE LEFT WITH
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  • AND SO, IT-- YOU'RE LEFT WITHTHAT, LIKE: HE BELIEVED IN YOU.
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  • THAT, LIKE: HE BELIEVED IN YOU.HE LOVED YOU.
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  • HE LOVED YOU.AND, HE GOES TO BED AND HE'S A
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  • AND, HE GOES TO BED AND HE'S ANORMAL DAD, AND HE WAKES UP THE
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  • NORMAL DAD, AND HE WAKES UP THENEXT MORNING AND NOTHING WILL
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  • NEXT MORNING AND NOTHING WILLEVER BE NORMAL AGAIN.
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  • EVER BE NORMAL AGAIN.AND THERE'S BEEN POINTS IN MY
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  • AND THERE'S BEEN POINTS IN MYOWN PERSONAL LIFE, YOU KNOW,
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  • OWN PERSONAL LIFE, YOU KNOW,WHEN I ENDED UP HOSPITALIZED
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  • WHEN I ENDED UP HOSPITALIZEDFOR SEVERE CLINICAL DEPRESSION.
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  • FOR SEVERE CLINICAL DEPRESSION.I MEAN, THE FACT OF-- COMING TO
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  • I MEAN, THE FACT OF-- COMING TOTERMS WITH THE FACT THAT I LIVE
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  • TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT I LIVEWITH A MENTAL ILLNESS.
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  • WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS.BUT WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED IS THE
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  • BUT WHAT I'VE DISCOVERED IS THEPRESENCE OF GOD IN THE MIDST OF
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  • PRESENCE OF GOD IN THE MIDST OFPAIN.
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  • PAIN.AND I TAKE THAT...I TAKE FROM
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  • AND I TAKE THAT...I TAKE FROMJESUS.
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  • JESUS.WHEN HE WAS IN THE GARDEN OF
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  • WHEN HE WAS IN THE GARDEN OFGETHSEMANE, WHEN THINGS WERE
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  • GETHSEMANE, WHEN THINGS WEREJUST AGONY, SO MUCH SO THAT HE
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  • JUST AGONY, SO MUCH SO THAT HESWEAT BLOOD, THE THING THAT I
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  • SWEAT BLOOD, THE THING THAT INOTICED, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE
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  • NOTICED, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THELAST TWO YEARS THAN I EVER
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  • LAST TWO YEARS THAN I EVERHAVE, IS HE PROCESSED HIS PAIN
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  • HAVE, IS HE PROCESSED HIS PAININ THE PRESENCE OF HIS FATHER.
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  • IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS FATHER.AND I THINK, SO OFTEN, WHEN WE
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  • AND I THINK, SO OFTEN, WHEN WEDON'T UNDERSTAND, WHEN
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  • DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHENSOMETHING'S BAD, WE WILL ALMOST
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  • SOMETHING'S BAD, WE WILL ALMOSTBACK AWAY FROM GOD.
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  • BACK AWAY FROM GOD.BUT I'VE DISCOVERED THE HEALING
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  • BUT I'VE DISCOVERED THE HEALINGOF TELLING GOD THE WHOLE TRUTH
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  • OF TELLING GOD THE WHOLE TRUTHAND PROCESSING MY PAIN IN HIS
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  • AND PROCESSING MY PAIN IN HISPRESENCE.
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  • PRESENCE.- LISA HARPER: MM-HMM, MM-HMM.
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  • - LISA HARPER: MM-HMM, MM-HMM.- MO ISOM AIKEN: THAT'S GOOD.
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  • - MO ISOM AIKEN: THAT'S GOOD.- LISA HARPER: I THINK, ALSO,
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  • - LISA HARPER: I THINK, ALSO,IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO NOT
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  • IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO NOTASSUME THAT WE CAN SEE AROUND
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  • ASSUME THAT WE CAN SEE AROUNDTHE CORNER OF OUR CIRCUMSTANCES
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  • THE CORNER OF OUR CIRCUMSTANCESWHILE WE'RE IN THIS BROKEN
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  • WHILE WE'RE IN THIS BROKENEXISTENCE.
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  • EXISTENCE.BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ONE OF
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  • BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS ONE OFTHE THINGS THAT'S HARD FOR ME.
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  • THE THINGS THAT'S HARD FOR ME.IT'S LIKE: GOD, IF YOU'LL SHOW
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  • IT'S LIKE: GOD, IF YOU'LL SHOWME THE END OF THE STORY, I'LL
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  • ME THE END OF THE STORY, I'LLBE FAITHFUL IN THE MIDDLE.
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  • BE FAITHFUL IN THE MIDDLE.AND, ALL TOO OFTEN, I THINK, AS
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  • AND, ALL TOO OFTEN, I THINK, ASBELIEVERS, WE QUOTE-- YOU KNOW,
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  • BELIEVERS, WE QUOTE-- YOU KNOW,WE HAVE MEMES THAT WE PUT ON
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  • WE HAVE MEMES THAT WE PUT ONSOCIAL MEDIA THAT SAY: GOD WILL
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  • SOCIAL MEDIA THAT SAY: GOD WILLWORK EVERYTHING OUT FOR OUR
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  • WORK EVERYTHING OUT FOR OURGOOD AND HIS GLORY.
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  • GOOD AND HIS GLORY.BUT WE FORGET THE FIRST PART OF
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  • BUT WE FORGET THE FIRST PART OFROMANS 8, WHERE IT SAYS WE WILL
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  • ROMANS 8, WHERE IT SAYS WE WILLGROAN INWARDLY, AS WE "WAIT
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  • GROAN INWARDLY, AS WE "WAITEAGERLY FOR OUR ADOPTION AS
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  • EAGERLY FOR OUR ADOPTION ASSONS AND DAUGHTERS."
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  • SONS AND DAUGHTERS."IN OTHER WORDS, IN THIS WORLD,
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  • IN OTHER WORDS, IN THIS WORLD,YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLE.
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  • YOU WILL HAVE TROUBLE.JESUS SAYS THAT IN JOHN 14.
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  • JESUS SAYS THAT IN JOHN 14.THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT GOD IS
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  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT GOD ISANYTHING LESS THAN PERFECTLY
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  • ANYTHING LESS THAN PERFECTLYGOOD; IT MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT
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  • GOOD; IT MEANS THAT WE ARE NOTIN EDEN; WE'RE NOT IN THE NEW
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  • IN EDEN; WE'RE NOT IN THE NEWJERUSALEM, YET.
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  • JERUSALEM, YET.SO, TO UNDERSTAND "GOODNESS
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  • SO, TO UNDERSTAND "GOODNESSGRACIOUS, HOW CAN HE BE SO GOOD
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  • GRACIOUS, HOW CAN HE BE SO GOODWHEN MY LIFE ISN'T SO GREAT,
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  • WHEN MY LIFE ISN'T SO GREAT,RIGHT NOW?" IS TO RECOGNIZE
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  • RIGHT NOW?" IS TO RECOGNIZETHAT GOD IS NOT BOUND BY TIME
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  • THAT GOD IS NOT BOUND BY TIMEAND SPACE, THAT HIS GOODNESS--
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  • AND SPACE, THAT HIS GOODNESS--THERE'S THIS CANOPY OF GOD'S
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  • THERE'S THIS CANOPY OF GOD'SSOVEREIGN MERCY.
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  • SOVEREIGN MERCY.BUT IT COVERS MORE THAN WHAT WE
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  • BUT IT COVERS MORE THAN WHAT WECAN SEE.
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  • CAN SEE.HUMAN FINITUDE MAKES IT
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  • HUMAN FINITUDE MAKES ITIMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO REALLY GET
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  • IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO REALLY GETHOW FAITHFUL GOD IS.
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  • HOW FAITHFUL GOD IS.HE'S PERFECTLY FAITHFUL, BUT,
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  • HE'S PERFECTLY FAITHFUL, BUT,WE ONLY GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT.
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  • WE ONLY GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT.- NONA JONES: YOU KNOW, FOR
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  • - NONA JONES: YOU KNOW, FORME, PHILIPPIANS 4:6-7 IS...IT'S
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  • ME, PHILIPPIANS 4:6-7 IS...IT'SONE OF MY FAVORITE PASSAGES OF
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  • ONE OF MY FAVORITE PASSAGES OFSCRIPTURE.
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  • SCRIPTURE."BE ANXIOUS FOR NOTHING, BUT IN
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  • "BE ANXIOUS FOR NOTHING, BUT INEVERYTHING, BY PRAYER AND
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  • EVERYTHING, BY PRAYER ANDSUPPLICATION, WITH
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  • SUPPLICATION, WITHTHANKSGIVING, LET YOUR REQUEST
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  • THANKSGIVING, LET YOUR REQUESTBE MADE KNOWN UNTO GOD..."
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  • BE MADE KNOWN UNTO GOD..."AND IT GOES ON TO SAY: "...AND
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  • AND IT GOES ON TO SAY: "...ANDTHE PEACE OF GOD, WHICH
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  • THE PEACE OF GOD, WHICHSURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING,
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  • SURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING,WILL GUARD YOUR HEARTS AND
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  • WILL GUARD YOUR HEARTS ANDMINDS, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS."
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  • MINDS, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS."I THINK WHEN WE'RE IN A
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  • I THINK WHEN WE'RE IN ASITUATION WHERE WE FEEL
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  • SITUATION WHERE WE FEELISOLATED, WE FEEL ALONE, WE
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  • ISOLATED, WE FEEL ALONE, WEFEEL DISCOURAGED, WE REALLY DO
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  • FEEL DISCOURAGED, WE REALLY DONEED THE PEACE OF GOD.
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  • NEED THE PEACE OF GOD.BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS VERSE
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  • BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS VERSE6 -- WE'RE SO QUICK TO PRAY,
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  • 6 -- WE'RE SO QUICK TO PRAY,RIGHT?
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  • RIGHT?SO, WE GO TO PRAY AND WE'RE
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  • SO, WE GO TO PRAY AND WE'RELIKE: LORD, PLEASE TAKE THIS
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  • LIKE: LORD, PLEASE TAKE THISPAIN FROM ME.
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  • PAIN FROM ME.BUT THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY
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  • BUT THERE'S SOMETHING REALLYIMPORTANT IN VERSE 6 THAT
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  • IMPORTANT IN VERSE 6 THATACTIVATES VERSE 7.
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  • ACTIVATES VERSE 7.AND THAT IS: "BE ANXIOUS FOR
  • 00:05:58.770 --> 00:06:00.539
  • AND THAT IS: "BE ANXIOUS FORNOTHING, BUT IN EVERYTHING, BY
  • 00:06:00.605 --> 00:06:02.174
  • NOTHING, BUT IN EVERYTHING, BYPRAYER AND SUPPLICATION, WITH
  • 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:03.942
  • PRAYER AND SUPPLICATION, WITHTHANKSGIVING, LET YOUR REQUEST
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  • THANKSGIVING, LET YOUR REQUESTBE MADE KNOWN UNTO GOD."
  • 00:06:07.012 --> 00:06:08.046
  • BE MADE KNOWN UNTO GOD."I HAD TO LEARN, IN MY TIMES
  • 00:06:08.113 --> 00:06:10.816
  • I HAD TO LEARN, IN MY TIMESOF-- YOU KNOW, I SUFFERED MANY
  • 00:06:10.882 --> 00:06:12.517
  • OF-- YOU KNOW, I SUFFERED MANYMISCARRIAGES, I LOST CHILDREN,
  • 00:06:12.584 --> 00:06:13.385
  • MISCARRIAGES, I LOST CHILDREN,EXPERIENCED ALL TYPES OF ABUSE
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  • EXPERIENCED ALL TYPES OF ABUSEAS A CHILD.
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  • AS A CHILD.I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO THANK GOD
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  • I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO THANK GODFOR HIS GOODNESS, IN THE MIDST
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  • FOR HIS GOODNESS, IN THE MIDSTOF THE PAIN, IN ORDER TO
  • 00:06:22.093 --> 00:06:24.229
  • OF THE PAIN, IN ORDER TOACTIVATE GOD'S PEACE.
  • 00:06:24.296 --> 00:06:26.031
  • ACTIVATE GOD'S PEACE.YOU KNOW, I'M WALKING WITH A
  • 00:06:26.097 --> 00:06:28.066
  • YOU KNOW, I'M WALKING WITH AFRIEND, RIGHT NOW, THROUGH A
  • 00:06:28.133 --> 00:06:29.000
  • FRIEND, RIGHT NOW, THROUGH AVERY HORRIFIC SITUATION.
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  • VERY HORRIFIC SITUATION.SHE LOST A SON.
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  • SHE LOST A SON.HE WAS 32, 33 YEARS OLD.
  • 00:06:32.137 --> 00:06:34.573
  • HE WAS 32, 33 YEARS OLD.HAS HIS WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF
  • 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:35.740
  • HAS HIS WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OFHIM.
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  • HIM.AND TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE, SHE
  • 00:06:37.209 --> 00:06:37.809
  • AND TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE, SHELOST ANOTHER SON ABOUT 10 YEARS
  • 00:06:37.876 --> 00:06:41.146
  • LOST ANOTHER SON ABOUT 10 YEARSAGO.
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  • AGO.AND SO, SHE ONLY HAS ONE SON
  • 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:42.914
  • AND SO, SHE ONLY HAS ONE SONLEFT.
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  • LEFT.AND SHE'S BEEN DEALING WITH
  • 00:06:43.915 --> 00:06:45.050
  • AND SHE'S BEEN DEALING WITHTHIS TRAGEDY, AND HER HEART IS
  • 00:06:45.116 --> 00:06:46.518
  • THIS TRAGEDY, AND HER HEART ISBROKEN, AND WE'VE TALKED AND
  • 00:06:46.585 --> 00:06:47.819
  • BROKEN, AND WE'VE TALKED ANDWE'VE PRAYED AND WE'VE CRIED.
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  • WE'VE PRAYED AND WE'VE CRIED.AND SOMETHING THAT WE BOTH
  • 00:06:49.821 --> 00:06:51.156
  • AND SOMETHING THAT WE BOTHDISCOVERED IN THE MIDST OF IT
  • 00:06:51.223 --> 00:06:51.957
  • DISCOVERED IN THE MIDST OF ITALL IS THAT GOD GAVE HER 32
  • 00:06:52.023 --> 00:06:55.494
  • ALL IS THAT GOD GAVE HER 32YEARS WITH HER SON, WHICH IS
  • 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.696
  • YEARS WITH HER SON, WHICH ISSOMETHING TO BE THANKFUL FOR.
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  • SOMETHING TO BE THANKFUL FOR.IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF!
  • 00:07:00.532 --> 00:07:01.600
  • IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF!WE DON'T DENY THE GRIEF, 'CAUSE
  • 00:07:01.666 --> 00:07:02.634
  • WE DON'T DENY THE GRIEF, 'CAUSETHE GRIEF IS REAL.
  • 00:07:02.701 --> 00:07:03.335
  • THE GRIEF IS REAL.AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN THANK
  • 00:07:03.401 --> 00:07:05.971
  • AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN THANKGOD FOR THE GIFT OF THOSE 32
  • 00:07:06.037 --> 00:07:06.972
  • GOD FOR THE GIFT OF THOSE 32YEARS.
  • 00:07:07.038 --> 00:07:08.807
  • YEARS.AND AS SHE THANKS GOD FOR ALL
  • 00:07:08.874 --> 00:07:10.008
  • AND AS SHE THANKS GOD FOR ALLTHE MEMORIES AND ALL THE
  • 00:07:10.075 --> 00:07:11.309
  • THE MEMORIES AND ALL THEEXPERIENCES, THAT'S HOW SHE'S
  • 00:07:11.376 --> 00:07:13.178
  • EXPERIENCES, THAT'S HOW SHE'SABLE TO ACTIVATE THE PEACE OF
  • 00:07:13.245 --> 00:07:14.713
  • ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE PEACE OFGOD IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF.
  • 00:07:14.779 --> 00:07:17.649
  • GOD IN THE MIDST OF THE GRIEF.AND SO, I THINK THAT'S PART OF
  • 00:07:17.716 --> 00:07:19.150
  • AND SO, I THINK THAT'S PART OFUNDERSTANDING THE LOVE OF GOD
  • 00:07:19.217 --> 00:07:20.318
  • UNDERSTANDING THE LOVE OF GODIS BEING WILLING TO BE THANKFUL
  • 00:07:20.385 --> 00:07:22.888
  • IS BEING WILLING TO BE THANKFULFOR HIS GOODNESS IN THE MIDST
  • 00:07:22.954 --> 00:07:23.722
  • FOR HIS GOODNESS IN THE MIDSTOF THE PAIN.
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  • OF THE PAIN.- MO: YEAH.
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  • - MO: YEAH.I THINK THAT UNDERSTANDING THE
  • 00:07:27.359 --> 00:07:29.294
  • I THINK THAT UNDERSTANDING THELOVE OF GOD ALSO ROOTS SO
  • 00:07:29.361 --> 00:07:31.129
  • LOVE OF GOD ALSO ROOTS SODEEPLY IN INTIMACY.
  • 00:07:31.196 --> 00:07:35.600
  • DEEPLY IN INTIMACY.TO UNDERSTAND HIS LOVE, TO GROW
  • 00:07:35.667 --> 00:07:36.635
  • TO UNDERSTAND HIS LOVE, TO GROWIN LOVE WITH HIM, THIS
  • 00:07:36.701 --> 00:07:37.235
  • IN LOVE WITH HIM, THISREQUIRES, THIS INVITES US TO A
  • 00:07:37.302 --> 00:07:39.404
  • REQUIRES, THIS INVITES US TO APLACE OF REALLY RAW, REALLY
  • 00:07:39.471 --> 00:07:42.007
  • PLACE OF REALLY RAW, REALLYHONEST INTIMACY.
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  • HONEST INTIMACY.AND IN THE CHALLENGING
  • 00:07:44.242 --> 00:07:45.644
  • AND IN THE CHALLENGINGSTRETCHES AND IN THE ADVERSITY
  • 00:07:45.710 --> 00:07:48.179
  • STRETCHES AND IN THE ADVERSITYAND IN THE STORMS, THIS IS THE
  • 00:07:48.246 --> 00:07:49.814
  • AND IN THE STORMS, THIS IS THEPLACE I FEEL LIKE, AT LEAST, IN
  • 00:07:49.881 --> 00:07:51.383
  • PLACE I FEEL LIKE, AT LEAST, INMY OWN LIFE SEASON TO SEASON TO
  • 00:07:51.449 --> 00:07:53.919
  • MY OWN LIFE SEASON TO SEASON TOSEASON, WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN
  • 00:07:53.985 --> 00:07:55.120
  • SEASON, WHEN THERE HAVE BEENCHALLENGES, HE'S ACTUALLY
  • 00:07:55.186 --> 00:07:56.688
  • CHALLENGES, HE'S ACTUALLYTAUGHT ME HOW TO WRESTLE WELL.
  • 00:07:56.755 --> 00:07:58.390
  • TAUGHT ME HOW TO WRESTLE WELL.I THINK WE THINK, SOMETIMES, WE
  • 00:07:58.456 --> 00:08:02.694
  • I THINK WE THINK, SOMETIMES, WEHAVE TO HAVE IT TOGETHER AND
  • 00:08:02.761 --> 00:08:03.828
  • HAVE TO HAVE IT TOGETHER ANDCOME TO HIM REALLY PRETTY, AND,
  • 00:08:03.895 --> 00:08:05.363
  • COME TO HIM REALLY PRETTY, AND,YOU KNOW, BE STRONG THROUGH
  • 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:08.500
  • YOU KNOW, BE STRONG THROUGHEVERY STRETCH OF IT.
  • 00:08:08.567 --> 00:08:09.467
  • EVERY STRETCH OF IT.BUT, IF WE LOOK TO THE
  • 00:08:09.534 --> 00:08:11.603
  • BUT, IF WE LOOK TO THESCRIPTURES, WE SEE, TIME AND
  • 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:12.537
  • SCRIPTURES, WE SEE, TIME ANDTIME AGAIN, THIS INVITATION AND
  • 00:08:12.604 --> 00:08:15.307
  • TIME AGAIN, THIS INVITATION ANDTHIS DISPLAY OF WHAT IT TRULY
  • 00:08:15.373 --> 00:08:17.842
  • THIS DISPLAY OF WHAT IT TRULYLOOKS LIKE TO WRESTLE WELL WITH
  • 00:08:17.909 --> 00:08:19.377
  • LOOKS LIKE TO WRESTLE WELL WITHGOD.
  • 00:08:19.444 --> 00:08:22.314
  • GOD.WE SEE THIS WITH HANNAH, I
  • 00:08:22.380 --> 00:08:24.082
  • WE SEE THIS WITH HANNAH, IMEAN, IN DEEP PRAYER, SO MUCH
  • 00:08:24.149 --> 00:08:26.618
  • MEAN, IN DEEP PRAYER, SO MUCHTHAT ELI THE PRIEST THOUGHT
  • 00:08:26.685 --> 00:08:28.520
  • THAT ELI THE PRIEST THOUGHTTHAT SHE WAS DRUNK.
  • 00:08:28.587 --> 00:08:29.621
  • THAT SHE WAS DRUNK.BUT SHE WAS POURING HER HEART
  • 00:08:29.688 --> 00:08:30.689
  • BUT SHE WAS POURING HER HEARTOUT BEFORE THE LORD.
  • 00:08:30.755 --> 00:08:31.790
  • OUT BEFORE THE LORD.SHE WAS LAYING HERSELF BARE.
  • 00:08:31.856 --> 00:08:34.059
  • SHE WAS LAYING HERSELF BARE.WE SEE IT IN DAVID, IN THE
  • 00:08:34.125 --> 00:08:34.659
  • WE SEE IT IN DAVID, IN THEPSALMS.
  • 00:08:34.726 --> 00:08:36.595
  • PSALMS.I MEAN, HE IS EXPERIENCING THE
  • 00:08:36.661 --> 00:08:37.762
  • I MEAN, HE IS EXPERIENCING THEFULLNESS OF HUMAN EMOTION.
  • 00:08:37.829 --> 00:08:39.831
  • FULLNESS OF HUMAN EMOTION.IT GETS ANNOYING, SOMETIMES!
  • 00:08:39.898 --> 00:08:42.233
  • IT GETS ANNOYING, SOMETIMES!I'M LIKE: DAVID, LET'S MOVE IT
  • 00:08:42.300 --> 00:08:43.868
  • I'M LIKE: DAVID, LET'S MOVE ITFORWARD!
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  • FORWARD!BUT HE'S PROCESSING EVERY
  • 00:08:44.336 --> 00:08:45.804
  • BUT HE'S PROCESSING EVERYFEELING, EVERY LAYER.
  • 00:08:45.870 --> 00:08:48.640
  • FEELING, EVERY LAYER.BUT HE ALWAYS ENDS IN PRAISE.
  • 00:08:48.707 --> 00:08:51.776
  • BUT HE ALWAYS ENDS IN PRAISE.AND I LOVE-- ESPECIALLY, WE SEE
  • 00:08:51.843 --> 00:08:56.514
  • AND I LOVE-- ESPECIALLY, WE SEETHIS IN GENESIS WITH JACOB, WHO
  • 00:08:56.581 --> 00:08:58.917
  • THIS IN GENESIS WITH JACOB, WHOTANGIBLY WRESTLES WITH GOD.
  • 00:08:58.984 --> 00:09:01.086
  • TANGIBLY WRESTLES WITH GOD.HE IS IN AN ISOLATED PLACE.
  • 00:09:01.152 --> 00:09:03.288
  • HE IS IN AN ISOLATED PLACE.THE OTHERS HAVE GONE AHEAD.
  • 00:09:03.355 --> 00:09:04.456
  • THE OTHERS HAVE GONE AHEAD.HE'S ALONE IN THE PRESENCE OF
  • 00:09:04.522 --> 00:09:05.090
  • HE'S ALONE IN THE PRESENCE OFGOD.
  • 00:09:05.156 --> 00:09:07.292
  • GOD.AND HE WRESTLES AND WRESTLES
  • 00:09:07.359 --> 00:09:09.327
  • AND HE WRESTLES AND WRESTLESAND DOES NOT RELENT.
  • 00:09:09.394 --> 00:09:10.328
  • AND DOES NOT RELENT.AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN THAT PLACE
  • 00:09:10.395 --> 00:09:11.529
  • AND IT'S ACTUALLY IN THAT PLACETHAT HIS IDENTITY CHANGES, THAT
  • 00:09:11.596 --> 00:09:14.499
  • THAT HIS IDENTITY CHANGES, THATGOD SPEAKS A NEW IDENTITY OVER
  • 00:09:14.566 --> 00:09:15.734
  • GOD SPEAKS A NEW IDENTITY OVERHIS STORY.
  • 00:09:15.800 --> 00:09:17.335
  • HIS STORY.HE GOES FROM "JACOB, THE
  • 00:09:17.402 --> 00:09:19.337
  • HE GOES FROM "JACOB, THEDECEIVER" TO ISRAEL, THE ONE
  • 00:09:19.404 --> 00:09:20.572
  • DECEIVER" TO ISRAEL, THE ONEWHO STRIVES WITH GOD.
  • 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:22.374
  • WHO STRIVES WITH GOD.AND I THINK, SOMETIMES, WE FEEL
  • 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.643
  • AND I THINK, SOMETIMES, WE FEELLIKE WE HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY
  • 00:09:24.709 --> 00:09:27.245
  • LIKE WE HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLYTHROUGH THESE HEALING OR
  • 00:09:27.312 --> 00:09:29.214
  • THROUGH THESE HEALING ORPROCESSING PLACES AND WE HAVE
  • 00:09:29.280 --> 00:09:30.582
  • PROCESSING PLACES AND WE HAVETO DO IT IN A PRETTY FASHION.
  • 00:09:30.649 --> 00:09:31.549
  • TO DO IT IN A PRETTY FASHION.BUT IT'S BEEN SOME OF THE
  • 00:09:31.616 --> 00:09:32.817
  • BUT IT'S BEEN SOME OF THEMOST...RAW TIMES IN MY LIFE OF
  • 00:09:32.884 --> 00:09:34.886
  • MOST...RAW TIMES IN MY LIFE OFREALLY KNOWING: HEY, YOU LOVE
  • 00:09:34.953 --> 00:09:37.422
  • REALLY KNOWING: HEY, YOU LOVEME AND YOUR LOVE STAYS.
  • 00:09:37.489 --> 00:09:38.390
  • ME AND YOUR LOVE STAYS.AND, YOUR LOVE ALSO INVITES THE
  • 00:09:38.456 --> 00:09:40.592
  • AND, YOUR LOVE ALSO INVITES THEFULLNESS OF WHO I AM AND WHAT
  • 00:09:40.659 --> 00:09:43.962
  • FULLNESS OF WHO I AM AND WHATI'M WALKING THROUGH.
  • 00:09:44.029 --> 00:09:46.364
  • I'M WALKING THROUGH.AND, I NEED TO-- I NEED TO LAY
  • 00:09:46.431 --> 00:09:47.198
  • AND, I NEED TO-- I NEED TO LAYMY HEART BARE, HERE.
  • 00:09:47.265 --> 00:09:47.966
  • MY HEART BARE, HERE.I NEED TO ASK YOU SOME
  • 00:09:48.033 --> 00:09:48.867
  • I NEED TO ASK YOU SOMEQUESTIONS AND I NEED YOU TO
  • 00:09:48.933 --> 00:09:51.336
  • QUESTIONS AND I NEED YOU TOANSWER.
  • 00:09:51.403 --> 00:09:52.303
  • ANSWER.AND THAT WRESTLING PLACE IS
  • 00:09:52.370 --> 00:09:53.171
  • AND THAT WRESTLING PLACE ISWHERE I BELIEVE THERE'S TIMES
  • 00:09:53.238 --> 00:09:54.773
  • WHERE I BELIEVE THERE'S TIMESWE STEP INTO EVEN NEWER AND
  • 00:09:54.839 --> 00:09:56.875
  • WE STEP INTO EVEN NEWER ANDNEWER LAYERS OF OUR IDENTITY IN
  • 00:09:56.941 --> 00:09:58.743
  • NEWER LAYERS OF OUR IDENTITY INHIM.
  • 00:09:58.810 --> 00:09:59.611
  • HIM.AND IT CHANGES -- IT CHANGES
  • 00:09:59.678 --> 00:10:00.745
  • AND IT CHANGES -- IT CHANGESWHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT HIS
  • 00:10:00.812 --> 00:10:02.047
  • WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT HISLOVE STAYS AND WE CAN WRESTLE
  • 00:10:02.113 --> 00:10:04.215
  • LOVE STAYS AND WE CAN WRESTLEWELL.
  • 00:10:04.282 --> 00:10:06.418
  • WELL.AND, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AND HARD
  • 00:10:06.484 --> 00:10:07.952
  • AND, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AND HARDAND MESSY PLACE TO BE, BUT IT'S
  • 00:10:08.019 --> 00:10:10.355
  • AND MESSY PLACE TO BE, BUT IT'SWORTH IT.
  • 00:10:10.422 --> 00:10:11.456
  • WORTH IT.- SHEILA: I WAS REALLY
  • 00:10:11.523 --> 00:10:11.990
  • - SHEILA: I WAS REALLYCHALLENGED ON THAT, MO, JUST
  • 00:10:12.057 --> 00:10:13.458
  • CHALLENGED ON THAT, MO, JUSTRECENTLY.
  • 00:10:13.525 --> 00:10:15.226
  • RECENTLY.I WAS SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE.
  • 00:10:15.293 --> 00:10:16.494
  • I WAS SPEAKING AT A CONFERENCE.AND A WOMAN CAME UP TO ME AT
  • 00:10:16.561 --> 00:10:17.962
  • AND A WOMAN CAME UP TO ME ATTHE END, AND SHE SAID, "YOU
  • 00:10:18.029 --> 00:10:18.530
  • THE END, AND SHE SAID, "YOUSAID TWO THINGS TONIGHT IN THE
  • 00:10:18.596 --> 00:10:19.998
  • SAID TWO THINGS TONIGHT IN THEPLATFORM, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
  • 00:10:20.065 --> 00:10:21.399
  • PLATFORM, AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVETO PICK ONE OF THEM, 'CAUSE
  • 00:10:21.466 --> 00:10:22.200
  • TO PICK ONE OF THEM, 'CAUSETHEY CAN'T BOTH BE TRUE."
  • 00:10:22.267 --> 00:10:23.668
  • THEY CAN'T BOTH BE TRUE."AND I SAID, "OKAY, WHAT DO YOU
  • 00:10:23.735 --> 00:10:24.302
  • AND I SAID, "OKAY, WHAT DO YOUMEAN?"
  • 00:10:24.369 --> 00:10:24.969
  • MEAN?"AND SHE SAID: "YOU SAID THAT
  • 00:10:25.036 --> 00:10:26.004
  • AND SHE SAID: "YOU SAID THATGOD IS LOVING.
  • 00:10:26.071 --> 00:10:28.640
  • GOD IS LOVING.AND YOU SAID THAT GOD IS
  • 00:10:28.707 --> 00:10:29.174
  • AND YOU SAID THAT GOD ISPOWERFUL.
  • 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.443
  • POWERFUL.SO, PICK ONE."
  • 00:10:31.509 --> 00:10:32.510
  • SO, PICK ONE."AND I SAID, "WHY DO YOU WANT ME
  • 00:10:32.577 --> 00:10:33.178
  • AND I SAID, "WHY DO YOU WANT METO PICK ONE?"
  • 00:10:33.244 --> 00:10:33.778
  • TO PICK ONE?"SHE SAID: "WELL, I HAVE BURIED
  • 00:10:33.845 --> 00:10:34.479
  • SHE SAID: "WELL, I HAVE BURIEDTWO SONS, SO EITHER GOD IS
  • 00:10:34.546 --> 00:10:37.716
  • TWO SONS, SO EITHER GOD ISLOVING, BUT HE'S NOT POWERFUL
  • 00:10:37.782 --> 00:10:40.452
  • LOVING, BUT HE'S NOT POWERFULOR HE WOULD HAVE STOPPED THAT;
  • 00:10:40.518 --> 00:10:42.554
  • OR HE WOULD HAVE STOPPED THAT;IF YOU WANNA GO THE OTHER --
  • 00:10:42.620 --> 00:10:43.154
  • IF YOU WANNA GO THE OTHER --WELL, LET'S JUST SAY GOD IS
  • 00:10:43.221 --> 00:10:43.855
  • WELL, LET'S JUST SAY GOD ISPOWERFUL.
  • 00:10:43.922 --> 00:10:45.290
  • POWERFUL.I'VE BURIED TWO SONS, SO HE IS
  • 00:10:45.356 --> 00:10:46.357
  • I'VE BURIED TWO SONS, SO HE ISNOT LOVING."
  • 00:10:46.424 --> 00:10:48.326
  • NOT LOVING."AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE
  • 00:10:48.393 --> 00:10:48.893
  • AND I THINK IT'S ONE OF THEGREATEST CHALLENGES TO A REAL,
  • 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.595
  • GREATEST CHALLENGES TO A REAL,TRANSPARENT, AUTHENTIC FAITH
  • 00:10:50.662 --> 00:10:51.663
  • TRANSPARENT, AUTHENTIC FAITHTHAT YOU LIVE WITH THOSE TWO
  • 00:10:51.730 --> 00:10:54.165
  • THAT YOU LIVE WITH THOSE TWOREALITIES THAT GOD IS LOVING
  • 00:10:54.232 --> 00:10:56.701
  • REALITIES THAT GOD IS LOVINGAND POWERFUL, BUT, SOMETIMES,
  • 00:10:56.768 --> 00:10:58.870
  • AND POWERFUL, BUT, SOMETIMES,OUR CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD CAUSE
  • 00:10:58.937 --> 00:11:02.107
  • OUR CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD CAUSEUS TO QUESTION THOSE.
  • 00:11:02.173 --> 00:11:05.443
  • US TO QUESTION THOSE.BUT WHEN YOU FIGHT-- THERE'S
  • 00:11:05.510 --> 00:11:06.845
  • BUT WHEN YOU FIGHT-- THERE'SSOMETHING IN THESE DAYS, AND I
  • 00:11:06.911 --> 00:11:08.113
  • SOMETHING IN THESE DAYS, AND IDON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST
  • 00:11:08.179 --> 00:11:08.913
  • DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUSTSOMETHING WE COME THROUGH, BUT
  • 00:11:08.980 --> 00:11:10.682
  • SOMETHING WE COME THROUGH, BUTI FEEL THIS FRESH SENSE THAT WE
  • 00:11:10.749 --> 00:11:12.484
  • I FEEL THIS FRESH SENSE THAT WENEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR FAITH.
  • 00:11:12.550 --> 00:11:14.486
  • NEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR FAITH.IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST ON
  • 00:11:14.552 --> 00:11:15.553
  • IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST ONTHIS EASY JOURNEY.
  • 00:11:15.620 --> 00:11:16.721
  • THIS EASY JOURNEY.IT'S TOUGH.
  • 00:11:16.788 --> 00:11:18.456
  • IT'S TOUGH.BUT IT'S A FAITH THAT IS WORTH
  • 00:11:18.523 --> 00:11:19.958
  • BUT IT'S A FAITH THAT IS WORTHFIGHTING FOR.
  • 00:11:20.024 --> 00:11:21.693
  • FIGHTING FOR.- LISA HARPER: YEAH.
  • 00:11:21.760 --> 00:11:22.427
  • - LISA HARPER: YEAH.I AGREE.
  • 00:11:22.494 --> 00:11:24.028
  • I AGREE.I LOVE THAT MO BROUGHT UP THE
  • 00:11:24.095 --> 00:11:25.163
  • I LOVE THAT MO BROUGHT UP THEPSALMS.
  • 00:11:25.230 --> 00:11:26.131
  • PSALMS.BECAUSE WE TEND TO THINK OF THE
  • 00:11:26.197 --> 00:11:27.766
  • BECAUSE WE TEND TO THINK OF THEPSALMS AS HAPPY SONGS, BUT, YOU
  • 00:11:27.832 --> 00:11:30.635
  • PSALMS AS HAPPY SONGS, BUT, YOUKNOW, MORE OF 'EM WERE PSALMS OF
  • 00:11:30.702 --> 00:11:31.870
  • KNOW, MORE OF 'EM WERE PSALMS OFLAMENT.
  • 00:11:31.936 --> 00:11:34.339
  • LAMENT.- MO: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:34.405 --> 00:11:34.873
  • - MO: RIGHT.- LISA HARPER: DAVID AND THEN
  • 00:11:34.939 --> 00:11:37.408
  • - LISA HARPER: DAVID AND THENTHE OTHER PSALM WRITERS --
  • 00:11:37.475 --> 00:11:37.976
  • THE OTHER PSALM WRITERS --THEY'RE ACTUALLY GRIEVING THE
  • 00:11:38.042 --> 00:11:38.643
  • THEY'RE ACTUALLY GRIEVING THEQUESTION THAT'S ASKED THE MOST
  • 00:11:38.710 --> 00:11:39.844
  • QUESTION THAT'S ASKED THE MOSTOFTEN IN THE PSALTER, ALL THOSE
  • 00:11:39.911 --> 00:11:40.545
  • OFTEN IN THE PSALTER, ALL THOSE150 PSALMS.
  • 00:11:40.612 --> 00:11:44.849
  • 150 PSALMS.AND THEY WERE ALL ORIGINALLY
  • 00:11:44.916 --> 00:11:45.650
  • AND THEY WERE ALL ORIGINALLYWRITTEN AS SONGS, SO I LOVE TO
  • 00:11:45.717 --> 00:11:46.351
  • WRITTEN AS SONGS, SO I LOVE TOTHINK OF IT AS GOD'S IPOD.
  • 00:11:46.417 --> 00:11:47.819
  • THINK OF IT AS GOD'S IPOD.BUT THE MOST OFT-ASKED QUESTION
  • 00:11:47.886 --> 00:11:50.922
  • BUT THE MOST OFT-ASKED QUESTIONIN THE PSALTER IS, "HOW LONG?
  • 00:11:50.989 --> 00:11:51.990
  • IN THE PSALTER IS, "HOW LONG?HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO
  • 00:11:52.056 --> 00:11:55.326
  • HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TOWALK IN THIS?" WHICH, OF
  • 00:11:55.393 --> 00:11:56.895
  • WALK IN THIS?" WHICH, OFCOURSE, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT
  • 00:11:56.961 --> 00:11:58.830
  • COURSE, THAT SEEMS LIKE THATWAS THE QUESTION OF THE YEAR
  • 00:11:58.897 --> 00:12:00.732
  • WAS THE QUESTION OF THE YEARWE'VE JUST COME THROUGH, OF
  • 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:02.901
  • WE'VE JUST COME THROUGH, OF2020, IS, "HOW MUCH LONGER ARE
  • 00:12:02.967 --> 00:12:03.701
  • 2020, IS, "HOW MUCH LONGER AREWE GONNA LIVE IN THIS TUMULT
  • 00:12:03.768 --> 00:12:05.170
  • WE GONNA LIVE IN THIS TUMULTAND THIS VITRIOL AND JUST ALL
  • 00:12:05.236 --> 00:12:05.970
  • AND THIS VITRIOL AND JUST ALLTHIS DIVISION?"
  • 00:12:06.037 --> 00:12:09.274
  • THIS DIVISION?"BUT IF YOU REALLY SETTLE IN
  • 00:12:09.340 --> 00:12:10.375
  • BUT IF YOU REALLY SETTLE INGOD'S WORD, YOU SEE THAT HE IS
  • 00:12:10.441 --> 00:12:13.812
  • GOD'S WORD, YOU SEE THAT HE ISALWAYS IN THE PROCESS OF
  • 00:12:13.878 --> 00:12:14.512
  • ALWAYS IN THE PROCESS OFREDEEMING HUMAN HISTORY.
  • 00:12:14.579 --> 00:12:17.849
  • REDEEMING HUMAN HISTORY.HE'S ALWAYS IN THE PROCESS OF
  • 00:12:17.916 --> 00:12:18.917
  • HE'S ALWAYS IN THE PROCESS OFMITIGATING EVIL.
  • 00:12:18.983 --> 00:12:20.418
  • MITIGATING EVIL.IT'S JUST I THINK WE ARE SO
  • 00:12:20.485 --> 00:12:21.886
  • IT'S JUST I THINK WE ARE SOUSED TO GETTING A QUICK FIX IN
  • 00:12:21.953 --> 00:12:23.488
  • USED TO GETTING A QUICK FIX INHAVING OUR ANSWER FOR OUR
  • 00:12:23.555 --> 00:12:25.723
  • HAVING OUR ANSWER FOR OURPRAYER, TODAY, INSTEAD OF, IN
  • 00:12:25.790 --> 00:12:27.592
  • PRAYER, TODAY, INSTEAD OF, INLIKE JACOB, STRIVING WITH THE
  • 00:12:27.659 --> 00:12:31.262
  • LIKE JACOB, STRIVING WITH THELORD, WRESTLING WITH THE LORD,
  • 00:12:31.329 --> 00:12:32.730
  • LORD, WRESTLING WITH THE LORD,RECOGNIZING SOMETIMES
  • 00:12:32.797 --> 00:12:33.832
  • RECOGNIZING SOMETIMESREDEMPTION -- IT'S MICROSOMAL.
  • 00:12:33.898 --> 00:12:38.002
  • REDEMPTION -- IT'S MICROSOMAL.YOU KNOW, AS ONE OF OUR
  • 00:12:38.069 --> 00:12:38.570
  • YOU KNOW, AS ONE OF OURPROFESSORS WAS SAYING RECENTLY,
  • 00:12:38.636 --> 00:12:40.905
  • PROFESSORS WAS SAYING RECENTLY,YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA
  • 00:12:40.972 --> 00:12:42.173
  • YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNATHROW OUT THE OLD TESTAMENT,
  • 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:42.974
  • THROW OUT THE OLD TESTAMENT,'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEEM TO
  • 00:12:43.041 --> 00:12:43.775
  • 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEEM TOGET THE ANGRY, UNIBROWED
  • 00:12:43.842 --> 00:12:45.977
  • GET THE ANGRY, UNIBROWEDLIBRARIAN GOD, AND THEY JUST
  • 00:12:46.044 --> 00:12:46.878
  • LIBRARIAN GOD, AND THEY JUSTWANNA HANG ONTO THE NEW
  • 00:12:46.945 --> 00:12:47.846
  • WANNA HANG ONTO THE NEWTESTAMENT, WHICH IS LIKE JESUS
  • 00:12:47.912 --> 00:12:49.514
  • TESTAMENT, WHICH IS LIKE JESUSWITH BRIGHT-CURL HAIR
  • 00:12:49.581 --> 00:12:51.516
  • WITH BRIGHT-CURL HAIREXTENSIONS.
  • 00:12:51.583 --> 00:12:51.983
  • EXTENSIONS.BUT IF THAT'S TRUE, GOD WOULD
  • 00:12:52.050 --> 00:12:53.184
  • BUT IF THAT'S TRUE, GOD WOULDHAVE BEEN BIPOLAR.
  • 00:12:53.251 --> 00:12:53.685
  • HAVE BEEN BIPOLAR.AND HE'S LIKE: WE DON'T TAKE
  • 00:12:53.751 --> 00:12:55.119
  • AND HE'S LIKE: WE DON'T TAKETHE TIME TO GET THE CONTEXT OF
  • 00:12:55.186 --> 00:12:56.321
  • THE TIME TO GET THE CONTEXT OFGOD'S COMPASSION.
  • 00:12:56.387 --> 00:12:57.856
  • GOD'S COMPASSION.BECAUSE, EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT
  • 00:12:57.922 --> 00:12:59.357
  • BECAUSE, EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK ATTHE WAR PASSAGES, YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:12:59.424 --> 00:13:01.125
  • THE WAR PASSAGES, YOU KNOW, THEISRAELITES WOULD GO IN.
  • 00:13:01.192 --> 00:13:03.862
  • ISRAELITES WOULD GO IN.AND GOD SAID: YES, YOU GET
  • 00:13:03.928 --> 00:13:05.530
  • AND GOD SAID: YES, YOU GETTO...YOU GET TO HAVE THE WOMEN
  • 00:13:05.597 --> 00:13:07.999
  • TO...YOU GET TO HAVE THE WOMENOF THE MEN YOU KILL IN BATTLE,
  • 00:13:08.066 --> 00:13:11.202
  • OF THE MEN YOU KILL IN BATTLE,BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SPOILS OF
  • 00:13:11.269 --> 00:13:13.271
  • BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SPOILS OFWAR.
  • 00:13:13.338 --> 00:13:13.905
  • WAR.YOU CAN MARRY THEM AFTER 30
  • 00:13:13.972 --> 00:13:15.974
  • YOU CAN MARRY THEM AFTER 30DAYS.
  • 00:13:16.040 --> 00:13:18.443
  • DAYS.AND YOU GO: WELL, WHY DOES THAT
  • 00:13:18.509 --> 00:13:19.077
  • AND YOU GO: WELL, WHY DOES THATMAKE SENSE?
  • 00:13:19.143 --> 00:13:19.978
  • MAKE SENSE?THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A GROSS
  • 00:13:20.044 --> 00:13:20.845
  • THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE A GROSSOLD TESTAMENT PASSAGE.
  • 00:13:20.912 --> 00:13:22.080
  • OLD TESTAMENT PASSAGE.AND YOU GO: OH, MY GOODNESS --
  • 00:13:22.146 --> 00:13:24.449
  • AND YOU GO: OH, MY GOODNESS --IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF
  • 00:13:24.515 --> 00:13:25.383
  • IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OFTHAT, GOD IS REMOVING RAPE FROM
  • 00:13:25.450 --> 00:13:26.284
  • THAT, GOD IS REMOVING RAPE FROMTHE EQUATION.
  • 00:13:26.351 --> 00:13:28.686
  • THE EQUATION.- MO: YEAH.
  • 00:13:28.753 --> 00:13:29.187
  • - MO: YEAH.- LISA HARPER: SO, EVEN IN
  • 00:13:29.254 --> 00:13:30.255
  • - LISA HARPER: SO, EVEN INWAR, HE'S BEGINNING TO MITIGATE
  • 00:13:30.321 --> 00:13:31.656
  • WAR, HE'S BEGINNING TO MITIGATEEVIL, RESTRAIN EVIL, AND REDEEM
  • 00:13:31.723 --> 00:13:33.691
  • EVIL, RESTRAIN EVIL, AND REDEEMTHE INHERENT DIGNITY HE IMBUED
  • 00:13:33.758 --> 00:13:35.994
  • THE INHERENT DIGNITY HE IMBUEDIN US.
  • 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:37.195
  • IN US.I JUST THINK, SOMETIMES, WE
  • 00:13:37.262 --> 00:13:38.229
  • I JUST THINK, SOMETIMES, WEDON'T TAKE THE TIME TO WRESTLE.
  • 00:13:38.296 --> 00:13:40.698
  • DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO WRESTLE.WE DON'T HAVE INTIMACY WITH
  • 00:13:40.765 --> 00:13:42.233
  • WE DON'T HAVE INTIMACY WITHGOD.
  • 00:13:42.300 --> 00:13:43.034
  • GOD.WE JUST HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN
  • 00:13:43.101 --> 00:13:44.335
  • WE JUST HAVE SOMETHING WE CANTHROW UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:13:44.402 --> 00:13:45.570
  • THROW UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.BUT INTIMACY, REAL RELATIONSHIP
  • 00:13:45.637 --> 00:13:49.040
  • BUT INTIMACY, REAL RELATIONSHIP-- IT REQUIRES DIGGING IN.
  • 00:13:49.107 --> 00:13:50.742
  • -- IT REQUIRES DIGGING IN.- LISA BEVERE: I LOVE THAT
  • 00:13:50.808 --> 00:13:52.277
  • - LISA BEVERE: I LOVE THATBOTH NONA AND MO BROUGHT UP
  • 00:13:52.343 --> 00:13:55.747
  • BOTH NONA AND MO BROUGHT UPSOMETHING THAT IS VERY INTEGRAL
  • 00:13:55.813 --> 00:13:57.282
  • SOMETHING THAT IS VERY INTEGRALFOR OUR LIVES.
  • 00:13:57.348 --> 00:13:58.516
  • FOR OUR LIVES.YOU KNOW, NONA, WHEN I FIRST
  • 00:13:58.583 --> 00:14:00.285
  • YOU KNOW, NONA, WHEN I FIRSTSTARTED PRAYING, I WAS TAUGHT
  • 00:14:00.351 --> 00:14:01.719
  • STARTED PRAYING, I WAS TAUGHTYOU ALWAYS THANK GOD, FIRST;
  • 00:14:01.786 --> 00:14:02.987
  • YOU ALWAYS THANK GOD, FIRST;THAT YOU ALWAYS COME TO HIM AS
  • 00:14:03.054 --> 00:14:04.522
  • THAT YOU ALWAYS COME TO HIM ASWHO HE IS; THAT YOU'RE LIKE, "I
  • 00:14:04.589 --> 00:14:08.259
  • WHO HE IS; THAT YOU'RE LIKE, "ITHANK YOU THAT YOU'RE LOVING, I
  • 00:14:08.326 --> 00:14:09.794
  • THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE LOVING, ITHANK YOU THAT YOU'RE WISE, I
  • 00:14:09.861 --> 00:14:10.962
  • THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE WISE, ITHANK YOU THAT YOU'RE MY
  • 00:14:11.029 --> 00:14:12.030
  • THANK YOU THAT YOU'RE MYPROVISION, I THANK YOU THAT WE
  • 00:14:12.096 --> 00:14:12.997
  • PROVISION, I THANK YOU THAT WEWOULD COME TO THIS PLACE..."
  • 00:14:13.064 --> 00:14:14.866
  • WOULD COME TO THIS PLACE..."WHERE WE WOULD SAY WHO HE WAS
  • 00:14:14.933 --> 00:14:17.568
  • WHERE WE WOULD SAY WHO HE WASTO US; AND THEN, WE WOULD THANK
  • 00:14:17.635 --> 00:14:19.804
  • TO US; AND THEN, WE WOULD THANKHIM FOR THE SITUATION AND THE
  • 00:14:19.871 --> 00:14:21.839
  • HIM FOR THE SITUATION AND THESOLUTION, AND WE WOULD CLOSE
  • 00:14:21.906 --> 00:14:22.840
  • SOLUTION, AND WE WOULD CLOSEWITH THAT.
  • 00:14:22.907 --> 00:14:25.543
  • WITH THAT.AND, THEN, I LOVE, MO, THAT YOU
  • 00:14:25.610 --> 00:14:26.577
  • AND, THEN, I LOVE, MO, THAT YOUBROUGHT UP WRESTLING 'CAUSE OUR
  • 00:14:26.644 --> 00:14:27.412
  • BROUGHT UP WRESTLING 'CAUSE OURFAMILY ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT "WE
  • 00:14:27.478 --> 00:14:28.713
  • FAMILY ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT "WENEED TO WRESTLE THIS THING" --
  • 00:14:28.780 --> 00:14:29.714
  • NEED TO WRESTLE THIS THING" --IN OUR MARRIAGE, IN OUR
  • 00:14:29.781 --> 00:14:30.648
  • IN OUR MARRIAGE, IN OURMINISTRY, IN OUR FAMILY
  • 00:14:30.715 --> 00:14:31.316
  • MINISTRY, IN OUR FAMILYDYNAMIC.
  • 00:14:31.382 --> 00:14:32.350
  • DYNAMIC.WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT "WE NEED
  • 00:14:32.417 --> 00:14:34.585
  • WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT "WE NEEDTO WRESTLE THIS IDEA DOWN."
  • 00:14:34.652 --> 00:14:37.655
  • TO WRESTLE THIS IDEA DOWN."AND I THINK TOO MANY CHRISTIANS
  • 00:14:37.722 --> 00:14:39.824
  • AND I THINK TOO MANY CHRISTIANSARE THINKING THAT GOD IS AFRAID
  • 00:14:39.891 --> 00:14:40.692
  • ARE THINKING THAT GOD IS AFRAIDOF THEIR QUESTIONS.
  • 00:14:40.758 --> 00:14:43.728
  • OF THEIR QUESTIONS.I REMEMBER WHEN JOHN AND I WERE
  • 00:14:43.795 --> 00:14:45.229
  • I REMEMBER WHEN JOHN AND I WEREFIRST MARRIED -- AND, AGAIN,
  • 00:14:45.296 --> 00:14:46.331
  • FIRST MARRIED -- AND, AGAIN,JOHN IS SUCH A CHRISTIAN AND I
  • 00:14:46.397 --> 00:14:47.799
  • JOHN IS SUCH A CHRISTIAN AND IWAS KIND OF LIKE A MARGINAL
  • 00:14:47.865 --> 00:14:49.701
  • WAS KIND OF LIKE A MARGINALPERSON, AT THIS TIME.
  • 00:14:49.767 --> 00:14:50.568
  • PERSON, AT THIS TIME.BUT, I REMEMBER -- I SAID:
  • 00:14:50.635 --> 00:14:51.469
  • BUT, I REMEMBER -- I SAID:"I JUST THINK GOD IS A JERK,
  • 00:14:51.536 --> 00:14:52.770
  • "I JUST THINK GOD IS A JERK,SOMETIMES.
  • 00:14:52.837 --> 00:14:54.505
  • SOMETIMES.I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT SOME OF
  • 00:14:54.572 --> 00:14:55.473
  • I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT SOME OFTHE THINGS HE DOES -- IT JUST
  • 00:14:55.540 --> 00:14:56.207
  • THE THINGS HE DOES -- IT JUSTFEELS LIKE HE'S A JERK."
  • 00:14:56.274 --> 00:14:57.208
  • FEELS LIKE HE'S A JERK."AND MY HUSBAND WAS LIKE:
  • 00:14:57.275 --> 00:14:58.643
  • AND MY HUSBAND WAS LIKE:[GASPS]
  • 00:14:58.710 --> 00:14:59.377
  • [GASPS]"HIT YOUR FACE!
  • 00:14:59.444 --> 00:15:00.311
  • "HIT YOUR FACE!YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!
  • 00:15:00.378 --> 00:15:01.379
  • YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CALLED GOD
  • 00:15:01.446 --> 00:15:03.548
  • I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CALLED GODA JERK!"
  • 00:15:03.614 --> 00:15:04.749
  • A JERK!"HE GOES ON THE OTHER ROOM, AND
  • 00:15:04.816 --> 00:15:05.516
  • HE GOES ON THE OTHER ROOM, ANDHE'S PRAYING, HE'S LIKE,
  • 00:15:05.583 --> 00:15:06.417
  • HE'S PRAYING, HE'S LIKE,"JESUS, THIS WIFE YOU GAVE
  • 00:15:06.484 --> 00:15:08.386
  • "JESUS, THIS WIFE YOU GAVEME -- I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE JUST
  • 00:15:08.453 --> 00:15:09.153
  • ME -- I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE JUSTSAID THAT!"
  • 00:15:09.220 --> 00:15:11.089
  • SAID THAT!"AND, HE SAID HE HEARD THE
  • 00:15:11.155 --> 00:15:12.557
  • AND, HE SAID HE HEARD THEHOLY SPIRIT SAY: WELL, YOU
  • 00:15:12.623 --> 00:15:13.958
  • HOLY SPIRIT SAY: WELL, YOUTHINK IT A LOT.
  • 00:15:14.025 --> 00:15:16.861
  • THINK IT A LOT.AT LEAST, SHE'S ONLY SAYING IT.
  • 00:15:16.928 --> 00:15:20.031
  • AT LEAST, SHE'S ONLY SAYING IT.AND, IN THAT MOMENT, I DID NOT
  • 00:15:20.098 --> 00:15:20.798
  • AND, IN THAT MOMENT, I DID NOTHAVE A REVELATION OF THE
  • 00:15:20.865 --> 00:15:21.466
  • HAVE A REVELATION OF THEFAITHFULNESS OF GOD.
  • 00:15:21.532 --> 00:15:24.502
  • FAITHFULNESS OF GOD.AND I THINK ABOUT JOSEPH IN A
  • 00:15:24.569 --> 00:15:26.170
  • AND I THINK ABOUT JOSEPH IN APRISON -- JOSEPH PREACHING THE
  • 00:15:26.237 --> 00:15:28.039
  • PRISON -- JOSEPH PREACHING THEFAITHFULNESS OF GOD WHEN HE'S
  • 00:15:28.106 --> 00:15:31.576
  • FAITHFULNESS OF GOD WHEN HE'SYET TO SEE ANY OF IT HIMSELF,
  • 00:15:31.642 --> 00:15:33.578
  • YET TO SEE ANY OF IT HIMSELF,JOSEPH INTERPRETING OTHER
  • 00:15:33.644 --> 00:15:35.413
  • JOSEPH INTERPRETING OTHERPEOPLE'S DREAMS WHEN HIS IS A
  • 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.315
  • PEOPLE'S DREAMS WHEN HIS IS ANIGHTMARE.
  • 00:15:37.382 --> 00:15:39.851
  • NIGHTMARE.THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE
  • 00:15:39.917 --> 00:15:40.518
  • THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THEKNOWING THAT GOD IS GOOD AND HE
  • 00:15:40.585 --> 00:15:43.621
  • KNOWING THAT GOD IS GOOD AND HEIS LOVE AND HE IS WORKING ALL
  • 00:15:43.688 --> 00:15:45.790
  • IS LOVE AND HE IS WORKING ALLTHINGS TOGETHER FOR OUR GOOD.
  • 00:15:45.857 --> 00:15:48.493
  • THINGS TOGETHER FOR OUR GOOD.SEE, I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES,
  • 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.862
  • SEE, I THINK, A LOT OF TIMES,PEOPLE THINK, "WELL, I'M GONNA
  • 00:15:50.928 --> 00:15:52.096
  • PEOPLE THINK, "WELL, I'M GONNACALL CANCER GOOD."
  • 00:15:52.163 --> 00:15:53.331
  • CALL CANCER GOOD."NO, CANCER ISN'T GOOD.
  • 00:15:53.398 --> 00:15:54.632
  • NO, CANCER ISN'T GOOD.BUT GOD WILL TAKE IT AND WORK
  • 00:15:54.699 --> 00:15:56.934
  • BUT GOD WILL TAKE IT AND WORKSOMETHING GOOD THROUGH IT AND
  • 00:15:57.001 --> 00:15:58.336
  • SOMETHING GOOD THROUGH IT ANDWITH IT.
  • 00:15:58.403 --> 00:16:00.505
  • WITH IT.SUICIDE -- NOT GOOD.
  • 00:16:00.571 --> 00:16:01.606
  • SUICIDE -- NOT GOOD.LOSING-- LOSING TWO SONS!
  • 00:16:01.672 --> 00:16:04.709
  • LOSING-- LOSING TWO SONS!THAT IS JUST DEVASTATING.
  • 00:16:04.776 --> 00:16:05.343
  • THAT IS JUST DEVASTATING.THAT LOSS IS NOT GOOD.
  • 00:16:05.410 --> 00:16:08.279
  • THAT LOSS IS NOT GOOD.BUT KNOWING THE GOOD GOD, AND
  • 00:16:08.346 --> 00:16:11.382
  • BUT KNOWING THE GOOD GOD, ANDBEING ABLE TO SAY, "I HAD 32
  • 00:16:11.449 --> 00:16:12.750
  • BEING ABLE TO SAY, "I HAD 32YEARS WITH MY SON," IS A
  • 00:16:12.817 --> 00:16:13.718
  • YEARS WITH MY SON," IS ACOMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSTURE
  • 00:16:13.785 --> 00:16:15.420
  • COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSTURETHAN SAYING, "GOD CAN'T BE
  • 00:16:15.486 --> 00:16:16.721
  • THAN SAYING, "GOD CAN'T BELOVING."
  • 00:16:16.788 --> 00:16:17.822
  • LOVING."- SHEILA: RIGHT.
  • 00:16:17.889 --> 00:16:20.158
  • - SHEILA: RIGHT.- NONA: YOU KNOW, GOD GAVE ME
  • 00:16:20.224 --> 00:16:22.527
  • - NONA: YOU KNOW, GOD GAVE MEA REVELATION ABOUT FAITH, A FEW
  • 00:16:22.593 --> 00:16:23.895
  • A REVELATION ABOUT FAITH, A FEWYEARS AGO, AND IT RADICALLY
  • 00:16:23.961 --> 00:16:25.296
  • YEARS AGO, AND IT RADICALLYTRANSFORMED THE WAY I EVEN USE
  • 00:16:25.363 --> 00:16:25.930
  • TRANSFORMED THE WAY I EVEN USETHAT WORD.
  • 00:16:25.997 --> 00:16:27.832
  • THAT WORD.YOU KNOW, I WAS...I WAS
  • 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:29.233
  • YOU KNOW, I WAS...I WASPREACHING ON FAITH, AND MANY
  • 00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:30.535
  • PREACHING ON FAITH, AND MANYPEOPLE AT OUR CHURCH WERE
  • 00:16:30.601 --> 00:16:31.803
  • PEOPLE AT OUR CHURCH WERESAYING: " HAVE FAITH BECAUSE I
  • 00:16:31.869 --> 00:16:32.437
  • SAYING: " HAVE FAITH BECAUSE ITRUST GOD!
  • 00:16:32.503 --> 00:16:34.806
  • TRUST GOD!I TRUST GOD!
  • 00:16:34.872 --> 00:16:36.374
  • I TRUST GOD!HE'S GONNA WORK MY SITUATION
  • 00:16:36.441 --> 00:16:37.108
  • HE'S GONNA WORK MY SITUATIONOUT."
  • 00:16:37.175 --> 00:16:38.876
  • OUT."AND, GOD MADE ME GO THROUGH SO
  • 00:16:38.943 --> 00:16:40.078
  • AND, GOD MADE ME GO THROUGH SOMANY STORIES OF THE BIBLE, WITH
  • 00:16:40.144 --> 00:16:42.280
  • MANY STORIES OF THE BIBLE, WITHPEOPLE WHO HE SAID EXPRESSED
  • 00:16:42.346 --> 00:16:42.880
  • PEOPLE WHO HE SAID EXPRESSEDFAITH, AND I NOTICED A COMMON
  • 00:16:42.947 --> 00:16:45.249
  • FAITH, AND I NOTICED A COMMONTHREAD.
  • 00:16:45.316 --> 00:16:47.185
  • THREAD.IT WASN'T THAT THEY JUST
  • 00:16:47.251 --> 00:16:50.021
  • IT WASN'T THAT THEY JUSTTRUSTED GOD; IT'S THAT THEY
  • 00:16:50.088 --> 00:16:51.422
  • TRUSTED GOD; IT'S THAT THEYOBEYED GOD WHEN GOD SPOKE
  • 00:16:51.489 --> 00:16:53.291
  • OBEYED GOD WHEN GOD SPOKESOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MAKE
  • 00:16:53.357 --> 00:16:54.592
  • SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T MAKESENSE.
  • 00:16:54.659 --> 00:16:55.893
  • SENSE.AND GOD REVEALED TO ME THAT
  • 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.296
  • AND GOD REVEALED TO ME THATFAITH IS NOT US TRUSTING GOD TO
  • 00:16:58.362 --> 00:17:00.765
  • FAITH IS NOT US TRUSTING GOD TOBE GOD; FAITH IS US PROVING
  • 00:17:00.832 --> 00:17:02.967
  • BE GOD; FAITH IS US PROVINGTHAT GOD CAN TRUST US.
  • 00:17:03.034 --> 00:17:03.768
  • THAT GOD CAN TRUST US.[LAUGHS]
  • 00:17:03.835 --> 00:17:06.304
  • [LAUGHS]AND, FOR MANY OF US WHO HAVE
  • 00:17:06.370 --> 00:17:08.039
  • AND, FOR MANY OF US WHO HAVEBEEN EXPERIENCING SITUATIONS
  • 00:17:08.106 --> 00:17:09.707
  • BEEN EXPERIENCING SITUATIONSTHAT SEEM IMPOSSIBLE AND THEY
  • 00:17:09.774 --> 00:17:12.243
  • THAT SEEM IMPOSSIBLE AND THEYJUST DON'T MAKE SENSE, AND WE
  • 00:17:12.310 --> 00:17:13.945
  • JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE, AND WEKNOW WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS,
  • 00:17:14.011 --> 00:17:14.812
  • KNOW WHAT THE WORD OF GOD SAYS,BUT THE WORD OF GOD, IT DOESN'T
  • 00:17:14.879 --> 00:17:16.914
  • BUT THE WORD OF GOD, IT DOESN'TLINE UP WITH HOW WE FEEL --
  • 00:17:16.981 --> 00:17:18.649
  • LINE UP WITH HOW WE FEEL --THAT BECOMES OUR OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:17:18.716 --> 00:17:20.451
  • THAT BECOMES OUR OPPORTUNITY TOEXPRESS FAITH.
  • 00:17:20.518 --> 00:17:21.252
  • EXPRESS FAITH.DO I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WHO HE
  • 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.522
  • DO I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WHO HESAYS HE IS?
  • 00:17:24.589 --> 00:17:25.256
  • SAYS HE IS?DO I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WHO HE
  • 00:17:25.323 --> 00:17:26.424
  • DO I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS WHO HEHAS REVEALED HIMSELF TO BE IN
  • 00:17:26.491 --> 00:17:28.092
  • HAS REVEALED HIMSELF TO BE INTHE WORD?
  • 00:17:28.159 --> 00:17:28.793
  • THE WORD?SO MUCH SO THAT I'M GOING TO
  • 00:17:28.860 --> 00:17:30.261
  • SO MUCH SO THAT I'M GOING TOOBEY WHAT HE HAS SAID.
  • 00:17:30.328 --> 00:17:32.797
  • OBEY WHAT HE HAS SAID.THAT BECOMES THE TEST OF FAITH
  • 00:17:32.864 --> 00:17:35.700
  • THAT BECOMES THE TEST OF FAITH-- AND THAT'S HARD.
  • 00:17:35.766 --> 00:17:37.502
  • -- AND THAT'S HARD.BECAUSE, ALL WE HAVE IS OUR
  • 00:17:37.568 --> 00:17:38.970
  • BECAUSE, ALL WE HAVE IS OUREXPERIENCE.
  • 00:17:39.036 --> 00:17:40.571
  • EXPERIENCE.ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT WE SEE AND
  • 00:17:40.638 --> 00:17:42.273
  • ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT WE SEE ANDWHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE.
  • 00:17:42.340 --> 00:17:44.642
  • WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE.AND YET, THE WORD OF GOD OFTEN
  • 00:17:44.709 --> 00:17:46.410
  • AND YET, THE WORD OF GOD OFTENSPEAKS IN WAYS THAT COMPLETELY
  • 00:17:46.477 --> 00:17:47.645
  • SPEAKS IN WAYS THAT COMPLETELYCONTRADICT WHAT WE KNOW TO BE
  • 00:17:47.712 --> 00:17:48.479
  • CONTRADICT WHAT WE KNOW TO BETRUE.
  • 00:17:48.546 --> 00:17:50.181
  • TRUE.SO, THAT BECOMES OUR
  • 00:17:50.248 --> 00:17:51.449
  • SO, THAT BECOMES OUROPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE OUR
  • 00:17:51.516 --> 00:17:53.351
  • OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE OURFAITH IN GOD.
  • 00:17:53.417 --> 00:17:55.920
  • FAITH IN GOD.WILL WE ACTUALLY STAND UP AND
  • 00:17:55.987 --> 00:17:57.722
  • WILL WE ACTUALLY STAND UP ANDRISE TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO
  • 00:17:57.788 --> 00:17:59.257
  • RISE TO THE OPPORTUNITY TOPROVE TO GOD: LOOK, LORD, I
  • 00:17:59.323 --> 00:18:02.126
  • PROVE TO GOD: LOOK, LORD, IDON'T UNDERSTAND YOU, BUT I
  • 00:18:02.193 --> 00:18:04.162
  • DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU, BUT ITRUST YOU ENOUGH TO OBEY YOU.
  • 00:18:04.228 --> 00:18:06.764
  • TRUST YOU ENOUGH TO OBEY YOU.AND I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE ME SO
  • 00:18:06.831 --> 00:18:08.933
  • AND I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE ME SOMUCH SO THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS
  • 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:10.835
  • MUCH SO THAT YOU WILL MAKE THISBAD THING GOOD, BECAUSE I HAVE
  • 00:18:10.902 --> 00:18:13.104
  • BAD THING GOOD, BECAUSE I HAVEFAITH IN YOUR WORD AND WHO
  • 00:18:13.171 --> 00:18:14.906
  • FAITH IN YOUR WORD AND WHOYOU'VE REVEALED YOURSELF TO BE.
  • 00:18:14.972 --> 00:18:17.575
  • YOU'VE REVEALED YOURSELF TO BE.- MO: THAT'S SO GOOD.
  • 00:18:17.642 --> 00:18:18.509
  • - MO: THAT'S SO GOOD.- LISA HARPER: AND TO
  • 00:18:18.576 --> 00:18:19.510
  • - LISA HARPER: AND TORECOGNIZE THAT WE MIGHT NOT
  • 00:18:19.577 --> 00:18:20.278
  • RECOGNIZE THAT WE MIGHT NOTEVEN SEE IN THIS HUMAN
  • 00:18:20.344 --> 00:18:24.048
  • EVEN SEE IN THIS HUMANEXISTENCE HIM MAKING THE BAD
  • 00:18:24.115 --> 00:18:25.316
  • EXISTENCE HIM MAKING THE BADTHINGS GOOD.
  • 00:18:25.383 --> 00:18:25.816
  • THINGS GOOD.YOU KNOW, REMEMBER MOSES --
  • 00:18:25.883 --> 00:18:27.351
  • YOU KNOW, REMEMBER MOSES --MOSES DIDN'T ACTUALLY STAND ON
  • 00:18:27.418 --> 00:18:29.153
  • MOSES DIDN'T ACTUALLY STAND ONTHE PROMISED LAND UNTIL...YOU
  • 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:31.455
  • THE PROMISED LAND UNTIL...YOUKNOW, CENTURIES AFTER HE HAD
  • 00:18:31.522 --> 00:18:32.957
  • KNOW, CENTURIES AFTER HE HADDIED ON MOUNT NEBO.
  • 00:18:33.024 --> 00:18:35.693
  • DIED ON MOUNT NEBO.AND YET, YOU LOOK AT THE MOUNT
  • 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:36.694
  • AND YET, YOU LOOK AT THE MOUNTOF TRANSFIGURATION AND THERE HE
  • 00:18:36.761 --> 00:18:37.929
  • OF TRANSFIGURATION AND THERE HEIS, STANDING NEXT TO JESUS.
  • 00:18:37.995 --> 00:18:39.263
  • IS, STANDING NEXT TO JESUS.AND THERE'S NO WAY HE COULD
  • 00:18:39.330 --> 00:18:41.566
  • AND THERE'S NO WAY HE COULDHAVE KNOWN THAT, IN HIS
  • 00:18:41.632 --> 00:18:43.100
  • HAVE KNOWN THAT, IN HISJAR-OF-CLAY BODY.
  • 00:18:43.167 --> 00:18:44.402
  • JAR-OF-CLAY BODY.I'M SURE HE WAS THINKING:
  • 00:18:44.468 --> 00:18:45.403
  • I'M SURE HE WAS THINKING:"GOODNESS GRACIOUS, I HAVE BEEN
  • 00:18:45.469 --> 00:18:48.272
  • "GOODNESS GRACIOUS, I HAVE BEENAS FAITHFUL AS I KNOW HOW TO BE
  • 00:18:48.339 --> 00:18:49.807
  • AS FAITHFUL AS I KNOW HOW TO BEWITH THESE INGRATES WHO JUST
  • 00:18:49.874 --> 00:18:50.741
  • WITH THESE INGRATES WHO JUSTWANNA GO BACK TO EGYPT 'CAUSE
  • 00:18:50.808 --> 00:18:52.143
  • WANNA GO BACK TO EGYPT 'CAUSETHEY HAVE BETTER FALAFELS, AND
  • 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:54.111
  • THEY HAVE BETTER FALAFELS, ANDHERE I GET BURIED ON MOUNT
  • 00:18:54.178 --> 00:18:56.414
  • HERE I GET BURIED ON MOUNTNEBO, WHEN THE PROMISED LAND IS
  • 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:57.815
  • NEBO, WHEN THE PROMISED LAND ISJUST RIGHT OVER THERE."
  • 00:18:57.882 --> 00:18:59.483
  • JUST RIGHT OVER THERE."BUT THEN, YOU GET TO MARK'S
  • 00:18:59.550 --> 00:19:00.885
  • BUT THEN, YOU GET TO MARK'SGOSPEL AND THERE HE STANDS,
  • 00:19:00.952 --> 00:19:02.486
  • GOSPEL AND THERE HE STANDS,NEXT TO A GLORIFIED JESUS.
  • 00:19:02.553 --> 00:19:05.389
  • NEXT TO A GLORIFIED JESUS.AND IF WE COULD HAVE
  • 00:19:05.456 --> 00:19:06.891
  • AND IF WE COULD HAVEINTERVIEWED MOSES THEN, HE
  • 00:19:06.958 --> 00:19:08.326
  • INTERVIEWED MOSES THEN, HEWOULD HAVE SAID: "OH, NO --
  • 00:19:08.392 --> 00:19:09.660
  • WOULD HAVE SAID: "OH, NO --NO, NO.
  • 00:19:09.727 --> 00:19:11.429
  • NO, NO.HE WROTE MY STORY INFINITELY
  • 00:19:11.495 --> 00:19:13.431
  • HE WROTE MY STORY INFINITELYBIGGER THAN MY GRANDEST DREAMS.
  • 00:19:13.497 --> 00:19:16.000
  • BIGGER THAN MY GRANDEST DREAMS.GOD'S WAYS ARE, INDEED, HIGHER
  • 00:19:16.067 --> 00:19:16.968
  • GOD'S WAYS ARE, INDEED, HIGHERAND ALWAYS BETTER."
  • 00:19:17.034 --> 00:19:19.303
  • AND ALWAYS BETTER."- MO: I JUST THINK WE HOLD A
  • 00:19:19.370 --> 00:19:20.738
  • - MO: I JUST THINK WE HOLD ABEAUTIFUL INVITATION TO SEEK
  • 00:19:20.805 --> 00:19:23.708
  • BEAUTIFUL INVITATION TO SEEKTHE LORD, AS WELL, FOR
  • 00:19:23.774 --> 00:19:26.277
  • THE LORD, AS WELL, FORDISCERNMENT, FOR WISDOM, AND
  • 00:19:26.344 --> 00:19:27.878
  • DISCERNMENT, FOR WISDOM, ANDFOR UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:19:27.945 --> 00:19:29.814
  • FOR UNDERSTANDING.HIS WORD SAYS THAT HIS WAYS ARE
  • 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:31.382
  • HIS WORD SAYS THAT HIS WAYS ARENOT OUR WAYS, HIS THOUGHTS ARE
  • 00:19:31.449 --> 00:19:33.217
  • NOT OUR WAYS, HIS THOUGHTS ARENOT OUR THOUGHTS.
  • 00:19:33.284 --> 00:19:34.585
  • NOT OUR THOUGHTS.AND I HAD A MENTOR RECENTLY
  • 00:19:34.652 --> 00:19:36.354
  • AND I HAD A MENTOR RECENTLYTELL ME-- BECAUSE WHEN THE
  • 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:38.489
  • TELL ME-- BECAUSE WHEN THESTORMS HAPPEN, WHEN ADVERSITY
  • 00:19:38.556 --> 00:19:39.957
  • STORMS HAPPEN, WHEN ADVERSITYHAPPENS, IT'S VERY EASY TO FIX
  • 00:19:40.024 --> 00:19:41.325
  • HAPPENS, IT'S VERY EASY TO FIXOUR EYES ON THE PHYSICAL
  • 00:19:41.392 --> 00:19:43.027
  • OUR EYES ON THE PHYSICALCIRCUMSTANCES.
  • 00:19:43.094 --> 00:19:44.061
  • CIRCUMSTANCES.IT'S-- WE'RE SO HUMAN AND IT'S
  • 00:19:44.128 --> 00:19:45.429
  • IT'S-- WE'RE SO HUMAN AND IT'SOUR DEFAULT.
  • 00:19:45.496 --> 00:19:48.599
  • OUR DEFAULT.AND, I HAD MY MENTOR RECENTLY
  • 00:19:48.666 --> 00:19:50.835
  • AND, I HAD MY MENTOR RECENTLYTELL ME: "YOU KNOW, THE
  • 00:19:50.901 --> 00:19:52.670
  • TELL ME: "YOU KNOW, THESIMPLEST PRAYER THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:19:52.737 --> 00:19:54.105
  • SIMPLEST PRAYER THAT YOU CANPRAY, HE'S ALWAYS ANSWERED IN
  • 00:19:54.171 --> 00:19:54.772
  • PRAY, HE'S ALWAYS ANSWERED INMY LIFE.
  • 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.807
  • MY LIFE.AND SO, LET ME HAND YOU THIS
  • 00:19:56.874 --> 00:19:57.408
  • AND SO, LET ME HAND YOU THISGIFT."
  • 00:19:57.475 --> 00:19:58.442
  • GIFT."AND, I WAS READY FOR SOMETHING
  • 00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:00.978
  • AND, I WAS READY FOR SOMETHINGSO DEEP AND INSIGHTFUL AND
  • 00:20:01.045 --> 00:20:02.213
  • SO DEEP AND INSIGHTFUL ANDPROFOUND, AND THE PRAYER WAS SO
  • 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:03.681
  • PROFOUND, AND THE PRAYER WAS SOSIMPLE.
  • 00:20:03.748 --> 00:20:06.150
  • SIMPLE.SAID, "'LORD, SHOW ME THE TRUTH
  • 00:20:06.217 --> 00:20:07.218
  • SAID, "'LORD, SHOW ME THE TRUTHOF MY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND SHOW
  • 00:20:07.285 --> 00:20:08.519
  • OF MY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND SHOWME WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM.'"
  • 00:20:08.586 --> 00:20:10.921
  • ME WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM.'"BASICALLY, SAYING: LORD, WHAT
  • 00:20:10.988 --> 00:20:11.789
  • BASICALLY, SAYING: LORD, WHATARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:20:11.856 --> 00:20:13.891
  • ARE YOU DOING?WHAT IS THE TRUTH?
  • 00:20:13.958 --> 00:20:15.092
  • WHAT IS THE TRUTH?GIVE ME DISCERNMENT.
  • 00:20:15.159 --> 00:20:18.129
  • GIVE ME DISCERNMENT.GIVE ME WISDOM.
  • 00:20:18.195 --> 00:20:19.497
  • GIVE ME WISDOM.GIVE ME UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:20:19.563 --> 00:20:20.831
  • GIVE ME UNDERSTANDING.AND, SOMETIMES, THAT HELPS US
  • 00:20:20.898 --> 00:20:21.465
  • AND, SOMETIMES, THAT HELPS USEVEN UNDERSTAND THE SOURCE OF
  • 00:20:21.532 --> 00:20:23.734
  • EVEN UNDERSTAND THE SOURCE OFOUR ADVERSITY OR OUR
  • 00:20:23.801 --> 00:20:26.103
  • OUR ADVERSITY OR OURAFFLICTION, BUT, THEN, SAYING:
  • 00:20:26.170 --> 00:20:30.007
  • AFFLICTION, BUT, THEN, SAYING:LORD, HOW DO I PARTNER WITH
  • 00:20:30.074 --> 00:20:30.608
  • LORD, HOW DO I PARTNER WITHYOU, JESUS?
  • 00:20:30.675 --> 00:20:32.343
  • YOU, JESUS?YOU'RE GOOD AND YOU DO LOVE ME.
  • 00:20:32.410 --> 00:20:34.445
  • YOU'RE GOOD AND YOU DO LOVE ME.AND YOU ARE WORKING ALL OUT FOR
  • 00:20:34.512 --> 00:20:35.880
  • AND YOU ARE WORKING ALL OUT FORYOUR GLORY AND FOR YOUR KINGDOM
  • 00:20:35.946 --> 00:20:39.050
  • YOUR GLORY AND FOR YOUR KINGDOMTO BE BUILT.
  • 00:20:39.116 --> 00:20:39.684
  • TO BE BUILT.AND SO, HELP ME FIX MY EYES ON
  • 00:20:39.750 --> 00:20:43.487
  • AND SO, HELP ME FIX MY EYES ONTHE SPIRITUAL REALM, PAST THE
  • 00:20:43.554 --> 00:20:44.255
  • THE SPIRITUAL REALM, PAST THEPHYSICAL.
  • 00:20:44.322 --> 00:20:46.057
  • PHYSICAL.SHOW ME THE TRUTH OF WHAT'S AT
  • 00:20:46.123 --> 00:20:46.691
  • SHOW ME THE TRUTH OF WHAT'S ATPLAY.
  • 00:20:46.757 --> 00:20:48.326
  • PLAY.ALIGN MY THOUGHTS WITH YOURS,
  • 00:20:48.392 --> 00:20:50.628
  • ALIGN MY THOUGHTS WITH YOURS,MY HEART WITH YOURS.
  • 00:20:50.695 --> 00:20:51.529
  • MY HEART WITH YOURS.AND, LORD, MY SIMPLE QUESTION
  • 00:20:51.595 --> 00:20:53.998
  • AND, LORD, MY SIMPLE QUESTIONWILL BE: HOW DO I PARTNER WITH
  • 00:20:54.065 --> 00:20:56.734
  • WILL BE: HOW DO I PARTNER WITHYOU, MOVING FORWARD?
  • 00:20:56.801 --> 00:20:58.235
  • YOU, MOVING FORWARD?WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:20:58.302 --> 00:20:59.370
  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING?BECAUSE, I DO TRUST YOU -- AND
  • 00:20:59.437 --> 00:21:00.971
  • BECAUSE, I DO TRUST YOU -- ANDI WANT TO OBEY YOU -- AS A
  • 00:21:01.038 --> 00:21:02.473
  • I WANT TO OBEY YOU -- AS ARESULT.
  • 00:21:02.540 --> 00:21:03.507
  • RESULT.AND SO, THAT CHANGES
  • 00:21:03.574 --> 00:21:05.876
  • AND SO, THAT CHANGESEVERYTHING.
  • 00:21:05.943 --> 00:21:09.046
  • EVERYTHING.IT'S SO SIMPLE.
  • 00:21:09.113 --> 00:21:10.448
  • IT'S SO SIMPLE.AND WHEN THAT APPLIED TO THE
  • 00:21:10.514 --> 00:21:11.515
  • AND WHEN THAT APPLIED TO THESTORM THAT WE WERE IN AND IT
  • 00:21:11.582 --> 00:21:12.316
  • STORM THAT WE WERE IN AND ITJUST SEEMED CLOUDY AND HAZY AND
  • 00:21:12.383 --> 00:21:13.918
  • JUST SEEMED CLOUDY AND HAZY ANDWE COULDN'T MAKE UP FROM DOWN
  • 00:21:13.984 --> 00:21:14.819
  • WE COULDN'T MAKE UP FROM DOWNOR LEFT FROM RIGHT.
  • 00:21:14.885 --> 00:21:16.220
  • OR LEFT FROM RIGHT.HE WAS SO FAITHFUL TO GIVE
  • 00:21:16.287 --> 00:21:18.155
  • HE WAS SO FAITHFUL TO GIVECLARITY, TO, UM...MAN, ORGANIZE
  • 00:21:18.222 --> 00:21:22.293
  • CLARITY, TO, UM...MAN, ORGANIZEOUR THOUGHTS, TO RIGHTLY ALIGN
  • 00:21:22.360 --> 00:21:25.129
  • OUR THOUGHTS, TO RIGHTLY ALIGNOUR UNDERSTANDING WITH WHAT WAS
  • 00:21:25.196 --> 00:21:26.564
  • OUR UNDERSTANDING WITH WHAT WASAT HAND, WHETHER IT WAS OF HIM
  • 00:21:26.630 --> 00:21:27.565
  • AT HAND, WHETHER IT WAS OF HIMOR WHETHER IT WAS OF THE ENEMY,
  • 00:21:27.631 --> 00:21:30.134
  • OR WHETHER IT WAS OF THE ENEMY,OR WHETHER IT WAS BY OUR OWN
  • 00:21:30.201 --> 00:21:32.002
  • OR WHETHER IT WAS BY OUR OWNSIN OR OUR OWN DISOBEDIENCE; HE
  • 00:21:32.069 --> 00:21:33.871
  • SIN OR OUR OWN DISOBEDIENCE; HEMADE IT ALL VERY CLEAR.
  • 00:21:33.938 --> 00:21:35.706
  • MADE IT ALL VERY CLEAR.AND BECAUSE HE DID SO, IT WAS
  • 00:21:35.773 --> 00:21:38.976
  • AND BECAUSE HE DID SO, IT WASEASY TO SAY: "WOW!
  • 00:21:39.043 --> 00:21:39.443
  • EASY TO SAY: "WOW!THANK YOU!
  • 00:21:39.510 --> 00:21:41.512
  • THANK YOU!I HUMBLE MYSELF, BEFORE YOU.
  • 00:21:41.579 --> 00:21:43.581
  • I HUMBLE MYSELF, BEFORE YOU.I WANNA STEP IN ALIGNMENT WITH
  • 00:21:43.647 --> 00:21:44.448
  • I WANNA STEP IN ALIGNMENT WITHWHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WALK
  • 00:21:44.515 --> 00:21:45.850
  • WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WALKFORWARD IN OBEDIENCE.
  • 00:21:45.916 --> 00:21:48.352
  • FORWARD IN OBEDIENCE.AND THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WHAT
  • 00:21:48.419 --> 00:21:49.987
  • AND THAT WAS ULTIMATELY WHATBROUGHT FREEDOM, AND WHAT
  • 00:21:50.054 --> 00:21:51.355
  • BROUGHT FREEDOM, AND WHATBROUGHT, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION,
  • 00:21:51.422 --> 00:21:52.590
  • BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION,AND WHAT BROUGHT SOME ANSWERS.
  • 00:21:52.656 --> 00:21:54.625
  • AND WHAT BROUGHT SOME ANSWERS.- SHEILA: YEAH.
  • 00:21:54.692 --> 00:21:55.092
  • - SHEILA: YEAH.THAT'S...BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:21:55.159 --> 00:21:56.327
  • THAT'S...BEAUTIFUL.AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING,
  • 00:21:56.394 --> 00:21:57.094
  • AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING,TOO, ABOUT REMEMBRANCE.
  • 00:21:57.161 --> 00:21:58.195
  • TOO, ABOUT REMEMBRANCE.LIKE, GOD HAS A TRACK RECORD
  • 00:21:58.262 --> 00:22:00.131
  • LIKE, GOD HAS A TRACK RECORDWITH ME.
  • 00:22:00.197 --> 00:22:02.533
  • WITH ME.YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK BACK OVER
  • 00:22:02.600 --> 00:22:03.567
  • YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK BACK OVERMY LIFE, I DIDN'T ALWAYS SEE,
  • 00:22:03.634 --> 00:22:04.201
  • MY LIFE, I DIDN'T ALWAYS SEE,AT THE TIME.
  • 00:22:04.268 --> 00:22:05.202
  • AT THE TIME.BUT, LIKE, THREE YEARS AGO, I
  • 00:22:05.269 --> 00:22:06.470
  • BUT, LIKE, THREE YEARS AGO, IHAD-- I WAS SENT TO THE
  • 00:22:06.537 --> 00:22:08.005
  • HAD-- I WAS SENT TO THEEMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE IT WAS
  • 00:22:08.072 --> 00:22:09.807
  • EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE IT WASTHE WORST HEADACHE I'VE EVER
  • 00:22:09.874 --> 00:22:11.208
  • THE WORST HEADACHE I'VE EVERHAD IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:22:11.275 --> 00:22:12.143
  • HAD IN MY LIFE.DOCTOR ASKED ME, "IS THERE ANY
  • 00:22:12.209 --> 00:22:13.344
  • DOCTOR ASKED ME, "IS THERE ANYHISTORY OF ANEURYSM IN YOUR
  • 00:22:13.411 --> 00:22:14.845
  • HISTORY OF ANEURYSM IN YOURFAMILY?" AND I'M LIKE, "YEAH...
  • 00:22:14.912 --> 00:22:16.414
  • FAMILY?" AND I'M LIKE, "YEAH...MY DAD, WHEN HE WAS 33."
  • 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.682
  • MY DAD, WHEN HE WAS 33."AND IT WAS LIKE: "TAKE HER
  • 00:22:18.749 --> 00:22:19.517
  • AND IT WAS LIKE: "TAKE HERSTRAIGHTAWAY.
  • 00:22:19.583 --> 00:22:20.518
  • STRAIGHTAWAY.SHE NEEDS A CT SCAN."
  • 00:22:20.584 --> 00:22:22.186
  • SHE NEEDS A CT SCAN."AND, I'M IN THIS ROOM, AND THE
  • 00:22:22.253 --> 00:22:25.790
  • AND, I'M IN THIS ROOM, AND THETECHNICIAN SAID, "OKAY, HERE'S
  • 00:22:25.856 --> 00:22:27.057
  • TECHNICIAN SAID, "OKAY, HERE'SA PANIC BUTTON, BECAUSE YOU'RE
  • 00:22:27.124 --> 00:22:28.225
  • A PANIC BUTTON, BECAUSE YOU'REGONNA BE IN THERE, ALONE."
  • 00:22:28.292 --> 00:22:30.027
  • GONNA BE IN THERE, ALONE."AND EVERYTHING IN ME WANTED TO
  • 00:22:30.094 --> 00:22:32.062
  • AND EVERYTHING IN ME WANTED TOSAY, "NO...I WILL NOT BE IN
  • 00:22:32.129 --> 00:22:33.531
  • SAY, "NO...I WILL NOT BE INTHERE, ALONE."
  • 00:22:33.597 --> 00:22:35.766
  • THERE, ALONE."BUT I DID NOT WANT TO SAY
  • 00:22:35.833 --> 00:22:36.333
  • BUT I DID NOT WANT TO SAYTHAT, IN CASE HE MOVED ME TO A
  • 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:37.968
  • THAT, IN CASE HE MOVED ME TO ADIFFERENT WARD IN THE HOSPITAL,
  • 00:22:38.035 --> 00:22:39.036
  • DIFFERENT WARD IN THE HOSPITAL,IN CASE HE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:22:39.103 --> 00:22:41.138
  • IN CASE HE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW,QUITE GET WHERE I WAS GOING.
  • 00:22:41.205 --> 00:22:42.606
  • QUITE GET WHERE I WAS GOING.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:22:42.673 --> 00:22:43.040
  • [LAUGHTER]BUT THE THING WAS I HAD BEEN IN
  • 00:22:43.107 --> 00:22:45.309
  • BUT THE THING WAS I HAD BEEN INPLACES BEFORE WHERE I'VE
  • 00:22:45.376 --> 00:22:45.943
  • PLACES BEFORE WHERE I'VETHOUGHT: LORD, THIS IS
  • 00:22:46.010 --> 00:22:46.477
  • THOUGHT: LORD, THIS ISHOPELESS, THIS IS HELPLESS --
  • 00:22:46.544 --> 00:22:47.311
  • HOPELESS, THIS IS HELPLESS --WHAT AM I GONNA DO?
  • 00:22:47.378 --> 00:22:47.778
  • WHAT AM I GONNA DO?AND I REMEMBER GOING INTO THAT
  • 00:22:47.845 --> 00:22:48.879
  • AND I REMEMBER GOING INTO THATTUBE AND THINKING-- MY INITIAL
  • 00:22:48.946 --> 00:22:50.781
  • TUBE AND THINKING-- MY INITIALTHOUGHT WAS: I DON'T WANT TO
  • 00:22:50.848 --> 00:22:54.351
  • THOUGHT WAS: I DON'T WANT TOBECOME TO MY SON WHAT MY DAD
  • 00:22:54.418 --> 00:22:55.519
  • BECOME TO MY SON WHAT MY DADBECAME TO ME.
  • 00:22:55.586 --> 00:22:56.353
  • BECAME TO ME.BUT, HERE'S THE DEAL, GOD: YOU
  • 00:22:56.420 --> 00:22:57.254
  • BUT, HERE'S THE DEAL, GOD: YOUARE GOOD, YOU ARE FAITHFUL, YOU
  • 00:22:57.321 --> 00:22:59.657
  • ARE GOOD, YOU ARE FAITHFUL, YOULOVE MY SON AND MY DARLING
  • 00:22:59.723 --> 00:23:01.692
  • LOVE MY SON AND MY DARLINGHUSBAND, BARRY, MORE THAN I
  • 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:03.627
  • HUSBAND, BARRY, MORE THAN IEVER COULD, AND YOU LOVE ME.
  • 00:23:03.694 --> 00:23:05.129
  • EVER COULD, AND YOU LOVE ME.AND SO, NO MATTER WHAT
  • 00:23:05.196 --> 00:23:05.796
  • AND SO, NO MATTER WHATHAPPENS....
  • 00:23:05.863 --> 00:23:07.398
  • HAPPENS....SEE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JESUS
  • 00:23:07.465 --> 00:23:08.365
  • SEE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JESUSDID IN THE GARDEN OF
  • 00:23:08.432 --> 00:23:09.066
  • DID IN THE GARDEN OFGETHSEMANE.
  • 00:23:09.133 --> 00:23:09.867
  • GETHSEMANE.BECAUSE HE POURED OUT ALL HIS
  • 00:23:09.934 --> 00:23:11.969
  • BECAUSE HE POURED OUT ALL HISPAIN, HE MADE SPACE FOR GRACE.
  • 00:23:12.036 --> 00:23:14.405
  • PAIN, HE MADE SPACE FOR GRACE.AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S
  • 00:23:14.472 --> 00:23:15.172
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'SAVAILABLE TO US WHEN WE DON'T
  • 00:23:15.239 --> 00:23:17.107
  • AVAILABLE TO US WHEN WE DON'TUNDERSTAND, BUT WE POUR OUT OUR
  • 00:23:17.174 --> 00:23:19.577
  • UNDERSTAND, BUT WE POUR OUT OURHEART AND WE LOOK AT THE TRACK
  • 00:23:19.643 --> 00:23:21.479
  • HEART AND WE LOOK AT THE TRACKRECORD GOD HAS.
  • 00:23:21.545 --> 00:23:23.180
  • RECORD GOD HAS.AND THEN, WE'RE ABLE TO SAY:
  • 00:23:23.247 --> 00:23:24.381
  • AND THEN, WE'RE ABLE TO SAY:LORD, I CAN HAVE YOUR PEACE,
  • 00:23:24.448 --> 00:23:26.750
  • LORD, I CAN HAVE YOUR PEACE,BEFORE I KNOW THE ANSWER.
  • 00:23:26.817 --> 00:23:27.718
  • BEFORE I KNOW THE ANSWER.MY ANSWER WAS GOOD.
  • 00:23:27.785 --> 00:23:28.385
  • MY ANSWER WAS GOOD.IT WAS LIKE: YOU'RE WORKING TOO
  • 00:23:28.452 --> 00:23:29.587
  • IT WAS LIKE: YOU'RE WORKING TOOHARD.
  • 00:23:29.653 --> 00:23:30.054
  • HARD.YOU NEED A BREAK.
  • 00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:31.655
  • YOU NEED A BREAK.BUT I HAD THE PEACE OF GOD,
  • 00:23:31.722 --> 00:23:32.823
  • BUT I HAD THE PEACE OF GOD,BEFORE I KNEW THAT.
  • 00:23:32.890 --> 00:23:34.859
  • BEFORE I KNEW THAT.- LISA BEVERE: WOW...
  • 00:23:34.925 --> 00:23:35.659
  • - LISA BEVERE: WOW...YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE PROMISE OF
  • 00:23:35.726 --> 00:23:36.393
  • YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE PROMISE OFGOD THAT WE FIND IN
  • 00:23:36.460 --> 00:23:37.595
  • GOD THAT WE FIND IN2 CORINTHIANS 4:8-9.
  • 00:23:37.661 --> 00:23:40.464
  • 2 CORINTHIANS 4:8-9.IT SAYS: "WE ARE AFFLICTED IN
  • 00:23:40.531 --> 00:23:41.198
  • IT SAYS: "WE ARE AFFLICTED INEVERY WAY..."
  • 00:23:41.265 --> 00:23:44.768
  • EVERY WAY..."AND YOU'RE THINKING: WHY WOULD
  • 00:23:44.835 --> 00:23:45.402
  • AND YOU'RE THINKING: WHY WOULDYOU LIKE THAT?
  • 00:23:45.469 --> 00:23:46.170
  • YOU LIKE THAT?'CAUSE IT SAYS, "...BUT NOT
  • 00:23:46.237 --> 00:23:46.837
  • 'CAUSE IT SAYS, "...BUT NOTCRUSHED, PERPLEXED," MEANING
  • 00:23:46.904 --> 00:23:47.972
  • CRUSHED, PERPLEXED," MEANINGIT'S CONFUSING OUT HERE, RIGHT
  • 00:23:48.038 --> 00:23:50.007
  • IT'S CONFUSING OUT HERE, RIGHTNOW, "BUT NOT DRIVEN TO
  • 00:23:50.074 --> 00:23:51.075
  • NOW, "BUT NOT DRIVEN TODESPAIR; PERSECUTED, BUT NOT
  • 00:23:51.141 --> 00:23:53.911
  • DESPAIR; PERSECUTED, BUT NOTFORSAKEN; STRUCK DOWN, BUT NOT
  • 00:23:53.978 --> 00:23:56.514
  • FORSAKEN; STRUCK DOWN, BUT NOTDESTROYED."
  • 00:23:56.580 --> 00:23:59.984
  • DESTROYED."IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:24:00.050 --> 00:24:01.519
  • IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, RIGHT NOW,AND YOU'RE THINKING, "NO, I AM
  • 00:24:01.585 --> 00:24:03.387
  • AND YOU'RE THINKING, "NO, I AMFEELING CRUSHED, I AM FEELING
  • 00:24:03.454 --> 00:24:04.321
  • FEELING CRUSHED, I AM FEELINGPERSECUTED, I AM FEELING
  • 00:24:04.388 --> 00:24:04.855
  • PERSECUTED, I AM FEELINGPERPLEXED, RIGHT NOW," I WANT
  • 00:24:04.922 --> 00:24:07.057
  • PERPLEXED, RIGHT NOW," I WANTYOU TO KNOW THAT ALL THINGS ARE
  • 00:24:07.124 --> 00:24:08.959
  • YOU TO KNOW THAT ALL THINGS AREGONNA WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD;
  • 00:24:09.026 --> 00:24:10.494
  • GONNA WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD;THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE
  • 00:24:10.561 --> 00:24:15.533
  • THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEGOODNESS OF YOUR GOD, IN THE
  • 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:16.934
  • GOODNESS OF YOUR GOD, IN THELAND OF THE LIVING; AND THERE'S
  • 00:24:17.001 --> 00:24:18.769
  • LAND OF THE LIVING; AND THERE'STHINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
  • 00:24:18.836 --> 00:24:19.703
  • THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BEETERNAL STORIES THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:24:19.770 --> 00:24:21.105
  • ETERNAL STORIES THAT YOU CANJUST HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE FAITH
  • 00:24:21.171 --> 00:24:22.673
  • JUST HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE FAITHTHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAVING
  • 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:25.075
  • THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAVINGA GREETING TO THE GOODNESS OF
  • 00:24:25.142 --> 00:24:26.710
  • A GREETING TO THE GOODNESS OFGOD, IN YOUR FUTURE.
  • 00:24:26.777 --> 00:24:27.444
  • GOD, IN YOUR FUTURE.NOW, WE JUST WANNA CLOSE WITH
  • 00:24:27.511 --> 00:24:29.013
  • NOW, WE JUST WANNA CLOSE WITHPRAYER.
  • 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:29.613
  • PRAYER.HEAVENLY FATHER, SO MANY
  • 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.215
  • HEAVENLY FATHER, SO MANYPEOPLE, RIGHT NOW, ARE
  • 00:24:31.282 --> 00:24:33.484
  • PEOPLE, RIGHT NOW, AREWONDERING WHY, THEY ARE
  • 00:24:33.551 --> 00:24:34.752
  • WONDERING WHY, THEY AREWONDERING WHEN, THEY ARE
  • 00:24:34.818 --> 00:24:37.755
  • WONDERING WHEN, THEY AREWONDERING WHAT IS HAPPENING.
  • 00:24:37.821 --> 00:24:40.391
  • WONDERING WHAT IS HAPPENING.AND, FATHER, WE DON'T HAVE THE
  • 00:24:40.457 --> 00:24:41.992
  • AND, FATHER, WE DON'T HAVE THEANSWER, BUT WE KNOW YOU ARE THE
  • 00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:44.528
  • ANSWER, BUT WE KNOW YOU ARE THEANSWER TO EVERY SINGLE
  • 00:24:44.595 --> 00:24:45.863
  • ANSWER TO EVERY SINGLEQUESTION.
  • 00:24:45.930 --> 00:24:47.698
  • QUESTION.YOU ARE THE PRINCE OF PEACE AND
  • 00:24:47.765 --> 00:24:49.800
  • YOU ARE THE PRINCE OF PEACE ANDYOU ARE THE GIVER OF A PEACE
  • 00:24:49.867 --> 00:24:51.235
  • YOU ARE THE GIVER OF A PEACETHAT PASSES UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:24:51.302 --> 00:24:53.103
  • THAT PASSES UNDERSTANDING.SO, FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR AN
  • 00:24:53.170 --> 00:24:54.538
  • SO, FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR ANIMPARTATION OF YOUR
  • 00:24:54.605 --> 00:24:55.873
  • IMPARTATION OF YOURSUPERNATURAL PEACE.
  • 00:24:55.940 --> 00:24:58.175
  • SUPERNATURAL PEACE.REGARDLESS OF THE
  • 00:24:58.242 --> 00:25:00.444
  • REGARDLESS OF THECIRCUMSTANCES, WE SAY YOU ARE
  • 00:25:00.511 --> 00:25:02.479
  • CIRCUMSTANCES, WE SAY YOU ARELOVING AND YOU ARE GOOD.
  • 00:25:02.546 --> 00:25:05.082
  • LOVING AND YOU ARE GOOD.YOU ARE FAITHFUL.
  • 00:25:05.149 --> 00:25:07.251
  • YOU ARE FAITHFUL.AND, IN YOU, WE PLACE OUR
  • 00:25:07.318 --> 00:25:08.485
  • AND, IN YOU, WE PLACE OURTRUST.
  • 00:25:08.552 --> 00:25:10.854
  • TRUST.WE'RE GONNA SPEAK TO OUR SOUL
  • 00:25:10.921 --> 00:25:11.755
  • WE'RE GONNA SPEAK TO OUR SOULAND SAY: WHY ARE YOU DOWNCAST?
  • 00:25:11.822 --> 00:25:13.324
  • AND SAY: WHY ARE YOU DOWNCAST?PUT YOUR HOPE IN GOD.
  • 00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:16.093
  • PUT YOUR HOPE IN GOD.AND, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK
  • 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.228
  • AND, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANKYOU THAT YOU ARE TAKING US FROM
  • 00:25:18.295 --> 00:25:20.197
  • YOU THAT YOU ARE TAKING US FROMGLORY TO GLORY AND STRENGTH TO
  • 00:25:20.264 --> 00:25:21.098
  • GLORY TO GLORY AND STRENGTH TOSTRENGTH, IN THIS SEASON.
  • 00:25:21.165 --> 00:25:22.066
  • STRENGTH, IN THIS SEASON.AMEN.
  • 00:25:22.132 --> 00:25:25.469
  • AMEN.- LISA HARPER: MMH...MMH.
  • 00:25:25.536 --> 00:25:26.670
  • - LISA HARPER: MMH...MMH.THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT WITH
  • 00:25:26.737 --> 00:25:27.972
  • THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT WITHUS, HERE AT "BETTER TOGETHER,"
  • 00:25:28.038 --> 00:25:28.872
  • US, HERE AT "BETTER TOGETHER,"TODAY.
  • 00:25:28.939 --> 00:25:30.307
  • TODAY.WE REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT IS ON
  • 00:25:30.374 --> 00:25:31.308
  • WE REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT IS ONYOUR HEART.
  • 00:25:31.375 --> 00:25:32.276
  • YOUR HEART.IF THERE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING
  • 00:25:32.343 --> 00:25:33.644
  • IF THERE SOMEONE OR SOMETHINGYOU WOULD LIKE US TO PRAY FOR?
  • 00:25:33.711 --> 00:25:35.613
  • YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PRAY FOR?LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN STAND
  • 00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:37.881
  • LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN STANDWITH YOU BY CONNECTING WITH US
  • 00:25:37.948 --> 00:25:38.983
  • WITH YOU BY CONNECTING WITH USON SOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:40.751
  • ON SOCIAL MEDIA.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US,
  • 00:25:40.818 --> 00:25:41.785
  • THANK YOU FOR JOINING US,TODAY, AND WE REALLY LOOK
  • 00:25:41.852 --> 00:25:43.554
  • TODAY, AND WE REALLY LOOKFORWARD TO BEING WITH YOU
  • 00:25:43.621 --> 00:25:44.121
  • FORWARD TO BEING WITH YOUTOMORROW.
  • 00:25:44.188 --> 00:25:45.589
  • TOMORROW.WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:25:45.656 --> 00:25:46.190
  • WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUTGOD'S FAITHFULNESS.
  • 00:25:46.256 --> 00:25:48.292
  • GOD'S FAITHFULNESS.HIS STEADFAST LOVE IS ONE THAT
  • 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.828
  • HIS STEADFAST LOVE IS ONE THATFIGHTS FOR US.
  • 00:25:50.894 --> 00:25:52.696
  • FIGHTS FOR US.AND HE NEVER FAILS.
  • 00:25:52.763 --> 00:25:53.998
  • AND HE NEVER FAILS.SO, WE'LL SEE YOU, TOMORROW.
  • 00:25:54.064 --> 00:25:56.800
  • SO, WE'LL SEE YOU, TOMORROW.[CLOSING THEME]
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